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DaemonFC[m]https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/apple/2020/10/4/21499422/apple-sues-recycling-company-reselling-ipods-ipads-watchesOct 05 00:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Apple sues recycling firm for stealing and reselling 100,000 iPhones, iPads and Watches - The VergeOct 05 00:10
Chaekyungstealing, eh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KCaS1z2MuEOct 05 00:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Recycler gets sued by Apple for 31 MILLION DOLLARS for reusing instead of recycling... - YouTubeOct 05 00:19
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142862 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e8842fb1-72be-4894-956f-652a119616a5]Oct 05 00:23
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Free Software program Basis Desires You To Have a good time Its 35th Anniversary http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142861#comment-26604 [https://pleroma.site/objects/dbd81a7f-c907-46ad-b616-0fcb84564612]Oct 05 00:26
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Why Is Linux More Secure? [5 Amazing Security Features That Linux Has And Windows Doesn’t] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142864 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7217bbe6-f34f-479a-a4fa-be4f2751e31b]Oct 05 00:36
schestowitzChaekyung: Microsoft does that tooOct 05 00:40
schestowitzand we're supposed to think of these as "Respected" companiesOct 05 00:40
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu 20.10 New Features Review and How to Upgrade http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142769#comment-26605 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ebf7f57b-b81c-43a6-a8fc-05b9afdc4b62]Oct 05 06:10
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mabox Linux 20.10 Released: A Manjaro Spin With Lightweight Openbox WM http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142865 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3ccf4e70-5247-4c31-8951-0989a5cf071e]Oct 05 06:12
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Review: deepin 20 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142866 [https://pleroma.site/objects/37c20396-b566-4018-922e-5ef65a24c201]Oct 05 06:13
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KeenWrite: An Open Source Text Editor for Data Scientists and Mathematicians http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142867 [https://pleroma.site/objects/393cf8e7-8962-415c-a050-8878b34fb6cc]Oct 05 06:14
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schestowitzhttp://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/005490.htmlOct 05 06:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jeremy.zawodny.com | Oracle buys Innobase. MySQL between rock and hard place? (by Jeremy Zawodny)Oct 05 06:56
schestowitzhttps://www.theregister.com/2005/10/10/oracle_buys_another/Oct 05 06:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Oracle buys Finnish developer • The RegisterOct 05 06:56
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The District Manager reached in and upped our rate.Oct 05 07:03
DaemonFC[m]Looking at apartments now.Oct 05 07:03
schestowitzDid you tell him/her?Oct 05 07:03
DaemonFC[m]I'm going to drop off an application in tomorrow but I'm kind of wondering how it'll go. We make more than enough but I have a bankruptcy and an arrest record.Oct 05 07:04
schestowitzThey're better off getting low paid than no payment (empty room)Oct 05 07:04
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "They're better off getting low p"> Yeah, the place has definitely thinned out since they raised it.Oct 05 07:04
schestowitzagree on somewhere between proposed new rate and current rateOct 05 07:04
schestowitzthat might workOct 05 07:04
DaemonFC[m]I haven't said anything to her yet. Oct 05 07:04
schestowitztryOct 05 07:04
schestowitznothing to loseOct 05 07:04
schestowitzsay you look for contingenciesOct 05 07:05
schestowitzI do this with our energy supplier each yearOct 05 07:05
schestowitzlast did it a week agoOct 05 07:05
schestowitzthey outsourced their call centers to IndiaOct 05 07:05
DaemonFC[m]We've been living here for 15 months.Oct 05 07:05
DaemonFC[m]We pay early and in full.Oct 05 07:05
DaemonFC[m]We haven't caused a nuisance. They barely hear from me unless I'm checking for mail.Oct 05 07:05
schestowitzfor the first time ever... and the workers in India work from home, so the calls dropped twice already... they had to repeatedly phone backOct 05 07:05
schestowitzTell the district chum (District Manager)Oct 05 07:06
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Yeah, I guess it couldn't hurt to try to go over that and ask if we can meet somewhere in the middle on this.Oct 05 07:06
schestowitzand the District Manager can verify from the local managerOct 05 07:06
schestowitz*withOct 05 07:06
DaemonFC[m]The worst that could happen is that if this apartment hunt goes bust, we'll pay what they're saying now. Oct 05 07:06
schestowitzor you could offer to do some chores around the placeOct 05 07:07
schestowitzto save them moneyOct 05 07:07
schestowitzlike being on call for incidentsOct 05 07:07
schestowitzlike unruly behaviour/noiseOct 05 07:07
DaemonFC[m]I mean, we could pay it, it's not terribly steep for what the motel situation is like in the area.Oct 05 07:08
DaemonFC[m]But I wouldn't want to do it for long.Oct 05 07:08
DaemonFC[m]The new rate comes out to 37% of our net income for housing, utilities, wifi, cable TV, etc.Oct 05 07:11
DaemonFC[m]I hear 30% of gross is what to aim forOct 05 07:11
DaemonFC[m]So we're probably somewhere in the neighborhood. Doing better than some, I guess.Oct 05 07:11
DaemonFC[m]I hear about people paying half. 30% is almost a fantasy document these days.Oct 05 07:12
DaemonFC[m]I'd say half your income for rent is at crisis levels, honestly, in most people's situations.Oct 05 07:14
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: A federal judge put an injunction on Trump's new immigration fee hikes and another one put an injunction on his entire executive order stopping most forms of immigration.Oct 05 07:15
DaemonFC[m]Whether it lasts is anyone's guess, but a 47% hike on the fee to apply to become a citizen. Double the fee for a status adjustment to Green Card status...Oct 05 07:16
DaemonFC[m]It's obvious what these are really designed to do. They're designed not to fund USCIS, but to turn a profit off immigrants and probably create a slush fund for ICE.Oct 05 07:16
DaemonFC[m]They're also designed to add trouble for low and middle income families so that immigration benefits are out of reach to them.Oct 05 07:17
DaemonFC[m]It's the second part of that after the new public charge rule.Oct 05 07:17
schestowitzbrbOct 05 07:36
schestowitzsorry, got distractedOct 05 07:36
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zoobabhttps://news.slashdot.org/story/20/10/04/2138212/the-free-software-foundation-wants-you-to-celebrate-its-35th-anniversaryOct 05 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.slashdot.org | The Free Software Foundation Wants You To Celebrate Its 35th Anniversary - SlashdotOct 05 08:19
schestowitz[06:24] [Notice] -TechrightsBN to #boycottnovell- @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Dating or going back to the days of cassette tapes and gramophones, the #FSF turns 35 today (Sunday) and it plans an online party http://techrights.org/2020/10/04/fsf-online-party/ #freesw #historyOct 05 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Happy 35th Birthday, FSF | TechrightsOct 05 08:20
schestowitzzoobab: but... but Linux started... in 1991Oct 05 08:20
schestowitzwere we lied to?Oct 05 08:20
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Free Software Foundation Celebrates Its 35th Birthday http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142861#comment-26607 [https://pleroma.site/objects/343dcda0-c28a-45b6-96cf-b9726964b6e8]Oct 05 08:26
schestowitzzoobab: also ^^^Oct 05 08:26
schestowitzChaekyung: https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2020/10/04/open-letter-to-south-koreas-ict-minister-mr-ki-young-choe-ensure-the-tba-amendments-dont-harm-the-open-internet-in-south-korea/Oct 05 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Open Letter to South Korea's ICT Minister, Mr. Ki-Young Choe: Ensure the TBA amendments don’t harm the open internet in South Korea - Open Policy & AdvocacyOct 05 08:27
schestowitzyou def. want to read thisOct 05 08:27
schestowitzgiven what you wrote latterlyOct 05 08:27
schestowitz"The COVID-19 pandemic has made clear that there has never been a greater need for an open and accessible internet that is a public resource available to all."Oct 05 08:29
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: PostgreSQL 13 advances popular open source database http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142522#comment-26608 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3701602c-294c-4d3f-8ff2-c1258b57de56]Oct 05 08:44
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: HP Linux Imaging and Printing Drivers Now Support Linux Mint 20 and openSUSE Leap 15.2 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142868 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ec3d3e83-05d1-4f56-a61c-d808f5f85f42]Oct 05 08:49
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zoobabvery few tweets:Oct 05 09:20
zoobabhttps://twitter.com/search?q=%23fsf35&src=typed_query&f=liveOct 05 09:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.twitter.com | Search Twitter - #fsf35Oct 05 09:20
schestowitztwitter is junkOct 05 09:22
schestowitzit doesn't say anythingOct 05 09:22
schestowitzmany fsf-friendly people don't bother with twitterOct 05 09:22
XRevan86> http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/005490.htmlOct 05 09:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jeremy.zawodny.com | Oracle buys Innobase. MySQL between rock and hard place? (by Jeremy Zawodny)Oct 05 09:22
schestowitzYes, coming shortluOct 05 09:22
schestowitznext articleOct 05 09:22
XRevan86We know how that ended.Oct 05 09:22
schestowitzwant to proofread it with me?Oct 05 09:22
XRevan86schestowitz: Well, I don't know much about Oracle other than a bit of the story behind MySQL acquisitionOct 05 09:32
schestowitzsee if you can spot an errorOct 05 09:32
schestowitzI will publish prematruelyOct 05 09:32
schestowitzwe can correct as we go alongOct 05 09:33
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/10/05/bill-gates-deposition-part-5/Oct 05 09:33
schestowitzoracle fruther downOct 05 09:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill Gates Deposition: Rocking Like a Pigeon While Lying to Interrogators | TechrightsOct 05 09:33
XRevan86I saw a video by Monty where he says Oracle takes better care of MySQL than he expected. So it's not all grim.Oct 05 09:34
XRevan86The story Oracle gives is that they saw the success of FOSS DBMS and wanted to have a presence there so they bought InnoDB and MySQL.Oct 05 09:37
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XRevan86And Oracle MySQL 8.0 (including all the later additions) is big on changes, so they definitely have interest in it. But maybe they don't like the competition with MariaDB, who knowsOct 05 09:42
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schestowitzXRevan86: yes, they did not abandon itOct 05 09:44
schestowitzno interest in that, I guessOct 05 09:45
schestowitzbecause mariadb ensures it keeps on going regardlessOct 05 09:45
schestowitzcompare to openoffice/libreofficedOct 05 09:45
XRevan86One weird bit here is that MySQL Enterprise is still a thing.Oct 05 09:45
schestowitz*/sOct 05 09:45
XRevan86Even though liberating that code would've helped Oracle get a stronger FOSS DBMS that they say they wanted.Oct 05 09:46
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schestowitzXRevan86: OK, I have finalised that postOct 05 09:55
schestowitzif you see an inaccuracy in the account of Oracle, let me know...Oct 05 09:55
schestowitzmaybe one day we'll get around to all those oracle bribery scandalsOct 05 09:55
schestowitzrarely hearing about these anymoreOct 05 09:55
schestowitzseems like corruption is the main recipe for "success" these daysOct 05 09:56
schestowitzbig-rigging with bribesOct 05 09:56
schestowitzMicrosoft does lots of that, found guilty as recently as a year agoOct 05 09:56
schestowitzpaid laughable finesOct 05 09:56
schestowitzas the system too us bribed by themOct 05 09:56
schestowitzjust spread the bribes, you can do anything..Oct 05 09:56
schestowitz[09:56] <schestowitz> big-rigging with bribesOct 05 09:57
schestowitz*bidOct 05 09:57
schestowitzIBM does that too, I provided examples in an article yesterdayOct 05 09:57
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XRevan86https://drewdevault.com/2020/10/01/Spamtoberfest.htmlOct 05 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drewdevault.com | SpamtoberfestOct 05 11:16
XRevan86The issue is more or less resolved, but that's still interesting.Oct 05 11:17
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scientes-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.theverge.com | Apple sues recycling firm for stealing and reselling 100,000 iPhones, iPads and Watches - The VergeOct 05 12:14
scientes"stealing"Oct 05 12:14
scienteshave they heard of the "first-sale" doctrine?Oct 05 12:14
scientesThere was a time where US courts were progressive about copyright, and I still get books that say "you can't do this, unless you live in the US"Oct 05 12:15
scientesof course they haven't, because Rotten Apples, like Microsoft products, phone homeOct 05 12:15
scientesbut still, their history in this regards is not as bad as Microsoft's simply because it has always been based on owning the physical hardwareOct 05 12:16
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scientesso this is a really a delusional move by Apple as part of its tivoizationOct 05 12:17
scientesand also something that is deeply illegalOct 05 12:17
scienteseven if the courts are themselves illegal, like that recent Mexico copyright lawOct 05 12:17
scientesOK, illegal is not the right word, slavery isOct 05 12:18
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Chaekyunghow am I doing so far? it's a draft https://linuxreviews.org/Free_Software_Foundation_Turns_35Oct 05 15:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxreviews.org | Free Software Foundation Turns 35 - LinuxReviewsOct 05 15:13
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scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeMvUlxXyz8Oct 05 15:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-M.I.A. - Born Free - YouTubeOct 05 15:42
scientesI realized that the age verification thing on YouTUbe is a much bigger deal that when I was young and would get around it (and there use to be a bug where you could embed those videos)Oct 05 15:43
scientesbecause it is MUCH harder to get a google account these daysOct 05 15:43
scientesyou basically need to buy a sim card to get a google accountOct 05 15:43
schestowitzhttps://web-stage.metacpan.org/pod/YottaDBOct 05 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://web-stage.metacpan.org/pod/YottaDB )Oct 05 15:44
scientesand registering of ID with sim cards is very commonOct 05 15:44
scientesyou use to just have to pass the squiggly-line capchaOct 05 15:44
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scientesthat's why I have like 30 google accountsOct 05 15:47
scientesprobably moreOct 05 15:47
XRevan86scientes: That's illegal!Oct 05 15:47
scientesXRevan86, yeah the "real name" policy stuff is super creepyOct 05 15:48
XRevan86A partyvan is already on its way.Oct 05 15:48
scientesas it is exactly what the same media was telling us about the internet in the 90sOct 05 15:48
scientes*exactly the opposite of whatOct 05 15:48
XRevan86On the Internet everyone should know you're a dog.Oct 05 15:49
XRevan86For advertisement purposes, to defend against spam and to keep you in your lane.Oct 05 15:50
scientesgiven that ISPs are putting Google servers right in their end points, it would be possible to build a libre software CDNOct 05 15:50
scientesit really isn't very complicated stuff eitherOct 05 15:51
scientesbut all this "encrypt everything" is actually quite hostile to such a moveOct 05 15:51
scientesso "end-to-end" means "you-to-fiveeyes"Oct 05 15:51
scientesM.I.A. had a great shirt that read "fuck google, ask me"Oct 05 15:52
scienteshttps://vimeo.com/9518258Oct 05 15:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jus†ice, Stress on VimeoOct 05 15:56
scientesyeah why do these videos get bannedOct 05 15:56
scientesbut not the racism-inciting "No Church In The Wild"Oct 05 15:56
scientesM.I.A.'s really the bestOct 05 15:56
schestowitzpoliticallyOct 05 16:09
schestowitznever mind the artsy sideOct 05 16:09
scientesI wonder if I could launch a business undercutting the US State Department's cost of denouncing citizenship by doing 1 day trips to North Korea.Oct 05 16:10
schestowitzher music/genre never appealed to meOct 05 16:10
scientesschestowitz, well I heard it from a young woman, but yes I've never been much of a hip hop person myselfOct 05 16:11
scienteshowever when I heard Paper Planes from this young woman, I went "woah, that's differn't"Oct 05 16:11
Chaekyunghttps://linuxreviews.org/Linux_Foundation#By_The_Numbers  https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460503801/201943179349303054/full  such revenue, such expenses, 97 million dollarzOct 05 16:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxreviews.org | Linux Foundation - LinuxReviewsOct 05 16:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-projects.propublica.org | Nonprofit Explorer - THE LINUX FOUNDATION - Full Filing - ProPublicaOct 05 16:13
ChaekyungFSF=1 millionOct 05 16:14
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XRevan86https://existentialcomics.com/comic/362Oct 05 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | The Invention of Philosophy - Existential ComicsOct 05 17:49
MinceR(cat) https://ircz.de/p/2009039Oct 05 18:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4865135)Oct 05 18:42
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schestowitzChaekyung: http://techrights.org/2020/08/16/the-linux-racket/Oct 05 19:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Exceeds $100,000,000 in Revenue and Jim Zemlin Now Pays Himself About a Million Dollars a Year While ‘His’ Foundation Operates at a Loss of $732,261 | TechrightsOct 05 19:03
schestowitzChaekyung: reOct 05 19:04
schestowitzhttps://linuxreviews.org/Linux_Foundation#Individual_DonationsOct 05 19:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxreviews.org | Linux Foundation - LinuxReviewsOct 05 19:04
schestowitzsee http://techrights.org/2019/03/26/lf-define-support/Oct 05 19:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: The Linux Foundation Needs to Define “Support” | TechrightsOct 05 19:04
MinceRwell, they've accomplished most of their mission, haven't they?Oct 05 19:04
MinceRthey took over Linux, got the CoC in place which gives them the power to fire people from the projectOct 05 19:04
MinceRand list microshit as one of the biggest membersOct 05 19:05
MinceRoh, and Linus no longer controls LinuxOct 05 19:05
MinceRmight as well scale down, all that's left to do is drive Linux into the groundOct 05 19:05
MinceRgkh can do that single-handedlyOct 05 19:06
MinceRor maybe with a little help from sievers and poetteringOct 05 19:07
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schestowitzChaekyung: ^Oct 05 19:11
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MinceR(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d70CW88X6aIOct 05 19:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Perks Of Being Billigual. Bengt Washburn - Full Special - YouTubeOct 05 19:25
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schestowitzChaekyung: Oct 05 19:34
schestowitz[06:02] <schestowitz> RMS:Oct 05 19:34
schestowitz[06:02] <schestowitz> > I looked at http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation.  ItOct 05 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - TechrightsOct 05 19:34
schestowitz[06:02] <schestowitz> > does not actually say much about the Linux Foundation.  It just linksOct 05 19:34
schestowitz[06:02] <schestowitz> > to brief incremental postings relating to the Linux Foundation.Oct 05 19:34
schestowitz[06:02] <schestowitz> > Oct 05 19:34
schestowitz[06:02] <schestowitz> > Putting those brief incremental postings together ito a coherentOct 05 19:34
schestowitz[06:02] <schestowitz> > whole is difficult.  I didn't try to do it, and I would not referOct 05 19:34
schestowitz[06:02] <schestowitz> > anyone to that page.Oct 05 19:34
schestowitz[06:02] <schestowitz> > Oct 05 19:34
schestowitz[06:02] <schestowitz> > With what you know, you could write a clear self-contained page of 50Oct 05 19:34
schestowitz[06:02] <schestowitz> > to 100 lines of text describing the current situation of the LinuxOct 05 19:34
schestowitz[06:02] <schestowitz> > Foundation, a page that a person could read and understand withoutOct 05 19:34
schestowitz[06:02] <schestowitz> > following links.  That would be tremendously useful, so I hopeOct 05 19:34
schestowitz[06:02] <schestowitz> > you do it.Oct 05 19:34
schestowitz^ earlier todayOct 05 19:34
schestowitzI speak to RMS several times per day every day this past weekOct 05 19:34
schestowitzHe could use a good, accurate, detailed primer re LFOct 05 19:35
schestowitzI can offer pointers in areas you get stuck and need URL/refOct 05 19:35
DaemonFC[m]https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/10/regal-cinemas-to-close-all-us-locations-including-11-nj-movie-theaters-reports-say.htmlOct 05 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Regal Cinemas to close all U.S. locations including 11 N.J. movie theaters, reports say - nj.comOct 05 19:36
schestowitzWe thought about going to the movies today, DaemonFC[m]Oct 05 19:36
schestowitzchanged our mind while walking thereOct 05 19:36
schestowitzbought masks insteadOct 05 19:36
schestowitzTHe gym shut down unexpectedly for the whole dayOct 05 19:36
schestowitzso we were all turned awayOct 05 19:37
schestowitzthey found a person with COVID-19 there, who was there 72 hours agoOct 05 19:37
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MinceR(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsije1KetVwOct 05 20:22
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schestowitzMinceR: they could make better jokesOct 05 20:37
schestowitzbut it's "family-friendly"Oct 05 20:37
MinceR:>Oct 05 20:37
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schestowitzhttps://www.bizjournals.com/chicago/news/2020/10/05/google-oracle-supreme-court.htmlOct 05 21:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bizjournals.com | NO TITLEOct 05 21:02
schestowitzlots of copies of these articles abound todayOct 05 21:03
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DaemonFC[m]> they found a person with COVID-19 there, who was there 72 hours agoOct 05 22:14
DaemonFC[m]Predictable. Oct 05 22:14
schestowitzextensive cleanup todayOct 05 22:14
DaemonFC[m]Put in my application for that apartment. If they say no I'm put fifty bucks. Oh well.Oct 05 22:14
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DaemonFC[m]Might be a good thing I have Firefox ESR.Oct 05 22:22
DaemonFC[m]The hotel wifi captive portal triggers a warning that Firefox will remove TLS 1.1 support eventually.Oct 05 22:23
DaemonFC[m]This wifi provider seems to be pretty sketchy.Oct 05 22:23
DaemonFC[m]I called their support line one day and it was a telemarketer trying to sell me a time share or something.Oct 05 22:23
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: fedora?Oct 05 22:42
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "DaemonFC: fedora?"> Huh?Oct 05 22:44
DaemonFC[m]The captive portal may not even work in Windows, Android, or iOS much longer.Oct 05 22:44
DaemonFC[m]Humorously, it would keep working fine in Windows 7.Oct 05 22:45
schestowitzwhat distro?Oct 05 22:47
schestowitzyou said you had installed esrOct 05 22:47
schestowitzI thought, perhaps wrongly, it was packaged only to a few long-term support distrosOct 05 22:48
DaemonFC[m]KubuntuOct 05 22:48
schestowitzokOct 05 22:48
DaemonFC[m]Kubuntu doesn't default to ESR. I installed it from the Mozilla PPA.Oct 05 22:48
DaemonFC[m]Then I removed the rapid release version.Oct 05 22:48
Cha3kyungcool story: Firefox did remove TLS 1.1 then they BACKDOORED it back on using their "normandy" backdoor when they realized it cased all kinds of things to fail. The next release had it enabled.Oct 05 22:49
Cha3kyungLession to learn from this: Mozilla can and does make your browser less secure when they feel like this. And yes, they do have a backdoor in Firefox that lets em a) change settings and b) install extensionsOct 05 22:50
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schestowitzMozilla is US basedOct 05 22:53
schestowitzand it constantly showsOct 05 22:53
schestowitzIf not US, then at least 5EyesOct 05 22:53
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/06/25/mozilla-comcast/Oct 05 22:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Shames Itself and Harms Its Reputation by Stating That “Comcast Has Taken Major Steps to Protect Customer Privacy” | TechrightsOct 05 22:53
chaekyungSan FransicoOct 05 22:53
schestowitzFacebookInside(R)http://techrights.org/2019/11/03/the-privacy-scam/Oct 05 22:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Facebook and Other Surveillance Capitalists Won’t Save Mozilla From Google Dependence | TechrightsOct 05 22:54
schestowitznear EFFOct 05 22:55
chaekyungI didn't know Mozilla empoyees had a revolving door with FacebookOct 05 22:56
schestowitzalso EFFOct 05 22:57
schestowitzbut one personOct 05 22:57
schestowitznot high-levelOct 05 22:57
schestowitza lawyers against swpatsOct 05 22:57
schestowitzCMO of Mozilla is now FacebookOct 05 22:57
schestowitzThere's Microsoft in the Board http://techrights.org/2020/06/22/mozilla-board/Oct 05 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Hires From Microsoft for Mozilla’s Board | TechrightsOct 05 22:58
schestowitzhttp://www.fsf.org/blogs/gnu-press/fsf-35-years-limited-edition-t-shirt-and-poster-for-saleOct 05 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | FSF 35 years: Limited edition T-shirt and poster for sale — Free Software Foundation — working together for free softwareOct 05 23:01
schestowitzlolOct 05 23:01
schestowitz"wINNING"!!!!!!Oct 05 23:01
schestowitzget dem teesOct 05 23:01
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MinceRlolOct 05 23:07
schestowitz"we outsourced to github"Oct 05 23:08
schestowitz"but look at our t-shirts"Oct 05 23:08
MinceRi'm guessing that anniversary happened _after_ the FSF was taken over by microshit and other SJWsOct 05 23:08
schestowitz'coming up next: FREEDOM MUGS"Oct 05 23:08
MinceR"Freedom Mugs! they don't encroach on your freedom as much as the software we promote!"Oct 05 23:09
schestowitzthose are symbolicOct 05 23:09
schestowitzthey need to focus on new achievementsOct 05 23:09
schestowitzlike gnu projects to replace whatsapp and spype [sic]Oct 05 23:09
schestowitzmugs and parties, which aren't even real parties because of covid-19, won't get us freedom on the web and pcsOct 05 23:10
schestowitzthey awarded mjg59 for uefi 'secure' bootOct 05 23:10
MinceRnow that microsuck controls the FSF and owns spykey (as Odisha Guy said), i don't think they'd really care to replace itOct 05 23:10
schestowitzand last year they awarded two for meeting a political criteria, not technical criteriaOct 05 23:10
schestowitzas there was nothing to justify those awards over other nomineesOct 05 23:11
schestowitzone never even coded anythingOct 05 23:11
schestowitzand made it big because of a sexual partner, apparently...Oct 05 23:11
schestowitzand if you speak about it, the "anti-harassment" team will destroy your life by blacklisting you everywhereOct 05 23:11
schestowitzthose fsf awards are like nobel for peaceOct 05 23:11
schestowitzsome given to people whose work is in fact detrimental to the stated causeOct 05 23:12
schestowitzkissinger, eu, obama...Oct 05 23:12
schestowitz[23:10] <MinceR> now that microsuck controls the FSF and owns spykey (as Odisha Guy said), i don't think they'd really care to replace itOct 05 23:12
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schestowitzthey removed the maintainer of the substitutesOct 05 23:13
schestowitzpocockOct 05 23:13
MinceR:>Oct 05 23:13
schestowitzhe does conferencing that's decentralisedOct 05 23:13
schestowitzGoogle and Microsoft must not like thatOct 05 23:13
schestowitzthey sponsor key eventsOct 05 23:13
schestowitzmaybe they'll offer their "services" for a "virtual" eventOct 05 23:13
schestowitzlike Salesforce did OSI'sOct 05 23:13
schestowitzwhose pres is an OSI employeeOct 05 23:13
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schestowitzOSI... brought to you by proprietary softwaereOct 05 23:13
schestowitzafter some more fsf donations from google as top patrons maybe libreplanet will become "better" and "reliable" with google hangoutsOct 05 23:14
Narratorhttps://developer.ibm.com/blogs/open-source-gravitates-to-outer-space/Oct 05 23:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | Open source gravitates to outer space – IBM DeveloperOct 05 23:36
schestowitzshithubOct 05 23:55
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/685250.pngOct 05 23:58

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