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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Raspberry Pi security add-on helps evaluate Connected Home over IP spec โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144027 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6780e8da-1c6d-4b2b-b0a0-ccbdba97b8f9] | Nov 05 00:24 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: From Linux to Windows and Back โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144028 [https://pleroma.site/objects/138dea1b-6c9c-4eea-bca7-534f0ceeabc8] | Nov 05 00:31 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: BPF binaries: BTF, CO-RE, and the future of BPF perf tools โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144029 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6eaa9ef2-180a-4bde-9e7d-96bc5a1882b7] | Nov 05 00:55 | |
| schestowitz | vZS1: good news | Nov 05 01:28 |
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| schestowitz | we're getting a raspi4 soon | Nov 05 01:28 |
| schestowitz | it's on its way here | Nov 05 01:28 |
| schestowitz | we'll likely use that as a headless server | Nov 05 01:29 |
| schestowitz | I can attach and detach a screen from here | Nov 05 01:30 |
| schestowitz | but it'll most likely be used for some workloads | Nov 05 01:30 |
| schestowitz | can set up guest account on it for ifps | Nov 05 01:30 |
| schestowitz | I can see it'll likely be trucked over to Manchester tomorrow. Lockdown started an hour ago. | Nov 05 01:31 |
| schestowitz | I think I'll need a monitor just for setup. Let's run sites-related services on its. At the moment the Friedman video we cut last month is viewed thousands of times because it's in the front page of HN. | Nov 05 01:34 |
| schestowitz | There was a GitHub leak just now... I'm told (see IRC log) due to cracking of Friedman's own account. | Nov 05 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Biden 264 | Nov 05 01:38 |
| schestowitz | Looks like it's almost over | Nov 05 01:38 |
| schestowitz | Little grounds for Trump to make a successful appeal | Nov 05 01:38 |
| schestowitz | even Barr would not go along with it | Nov 05 01:39 |
| schestowitz | GOP might not, either | Nov 05 01:39 |
| schestowitz | it would shame them | Nov 05 01:39 |
| MinceR | they seemed pretty shameless lately | Nov 05 01:50 |
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| MinceR | then again, some of them would be glad to be rid of twitler | Nov 05 01:50 |
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| XRevan86 | Is it safe to congratulate the US right now with the orange one losing the election? | Nov 05 02:25 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Congratulations on the bidon :) | Nov 05 02:26 |
| MinceR | seems too early | Nov 05 02:29 |
| XRevan86 | At least as far as counting goes it doesn't look like there's any way Trump will catch up. | Nov 05 02:30 |
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| XRevan86 | Putin's not enjoying his popcorn right now. | Nov 05 02:37 |
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| oarion7 | Doubtful the election will be resolved. We will either proceed with two presidents or a hopefully orderly dissolution of the United States into its component parts | Nov 05 04:09 |
| oarion7 | The most important part is that the last four years must not be in vain, the Great Satan losing its incredibility internationally is not only a "good" thing, it's critical to the survival of the species. | Nov 05 04:10 |
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| schestowitz | "So, when Agent Orange steals his employer's jet and flees the country in it, will he head to UA or KSA? Bets?" -iophk | Nov 05 06:29 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: Coder Radio, TLLTS, FLOSS Weekly โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144032 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6add7a09-3ef6-476c-8c36-0237c6ed2c00] | Nov 05 06:34 | |
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| schestowitz | vZS1: planet raku suddenly burping up 3 posts from 2018 | Nov 05 07:26 |
| schestowitz | and nothing else new | Nov 05 07:26 |
| schestowitz | maybe that needs correcting, slicing output based on date? | Nov 05 07:26 |
| schestowitz | https://t.co/DYtfd9IHnP?amp=1 | Nov 05 07:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | No Excuses Left, Time to Leave the GitHub Monopoly | Hacker News | Nov 05 07:34 | |
| schestowitz | "I am also not convinced. It is very easy to paint Microsoft as the villain of open source movements, but action speak louder than words. With their latest commitments to Linux, Github and the NPM ecosystem, I'm willing to stick it out and embrace the new era." | Nov 05 07:34 |
| schestowitz | How foolish | Nov 05 07:34 |
| schestowitz | Makes you wonder who she or he works for | Nov 05 07:34 |
| schestowitz | Those are both attacks on Free software | Nov 05 07:34 |
| schestowitz | not "embrace" for good | Nov 05 07:35 |
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| vZS1 | schestowitz: just another person on their gravy train | Nov 05 07:55 |
| oiaohm | Really it is right that Microsoft is a really easy villain with the issues with github. There is the reality that we have not setup systems designed to support using multi mirrors well so that if one supplier has some issue the project can go forwards like nothing happened. | Nov 05 08:03 |
| schestowitz | github is only one of several aspect | Nov 05 08:03 |
| oiaohm | Like if everyone leaves github and goes to the next big thing run by a single party in a decade time we could be back in exactly the same place. | Nov 05 08:03 |
| schestowitz | others being lobby for swpats, extortion with swpats etc. | Nov 05 08:04 |
| schestowitz | don't narrow that down | Nov 05 08:04 |
| schestowitz | with help from SJVN and other new era liars they indoctrinate some people | Nov 05 08:04 |
| schestowitz | the whole "Windows will be Linux" and "let's pretend Microsoft is not attacking us" spiel | Nov 05 08:05 |
| schestowitz | echoed by sites like ZDNet | Nov 05 08:05 |
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| schestowitz | which BTW hardly published anything this past week, I hope they're truly collapsing this month, better late than never | Nov 05 08:05 |
| oiaohm | I am not saying Ignore Microsoft. I am saying we need to be aware Microsoft is not the only problem. | Nov 05 08:05 |
| oiaohm | So that we don't run from Microsoft to some other party that could be worse. | Nov 05 08:05 |
| schestowitz | Re: This can't be accurate-- exit polls | Nov 05 08:27 |
| schestowitz | > Trump received far more votes than I expected, across the board. I'm | Nov 05 08:27 |
| schestowitz | > surprised, troubled, and disgusted. It's not like people do not have | Nov 05 08:27 |
| schestowitz | > enough information about what they are voting for. They have seen his | Nov 05 08:28 |
| schestowitz | > work and listened incessantly to his person. Oh, I cannot convey the | Nov 05 08:28 |
| schestowitz | > revulsion I feel concerning his character, and to see such an outcome is | Nov 05 08:28 |
| schestowitz | > just another blow to my faith in humanity. | Nov 05 08:28 |
| schestowitz | [08:05] <oiaohm> I am not saying Ignore Microsoft. I am saying we need to be aware Microsoft is not the only problem. | Nov 05 08:28 |
| schestowitz | This is a different issue | Nov 05 08:28 |
| schestowitz | and a bit of a straw man TBH | Nov 05 08:28 |
| schestowitz | Re: The GNU project needs YOUR HELP contributing to Microsoft | Nov 05 08:29 |
| schestowitz | > Our _what_? The FSF is now an all-purpose cash and man-hours receptacle. | Nov 05 08:29 |
| schestowitz | "This community that we have, that we're building, that does so much, has to grow. We can't compete with Apple, we can't compete with Google, directly, in the field of resources. What we can eventually do is head count and heart count. We can compete on the ground of ideology because ours is better." | Nov 05 08:29 |
| schestowitz | -- Edward Snowden, NSA whisteblower, speaking at LibrePlanet 2016. | Nov 05 08:29 |
| schestowitz | > I agree. GNU is worth granting some mind-space, but the FSF is dead to me. | Nov 05 08:31 |
| Narrator | well, open software is not so important now | Nov 05 08:41 |
| Narrator | probably mous valuable data have been copied to clouds | Nov 05 08:41 |
| Narrator | .. most ... | Nov 05 08:42 |
| schestowitz | yes, the surfaces are moving | Nov 05 08:45 |
| schestowitz | and FSF is not keeping up | Nov 05 08:45 |
| schestowitz | heck, I was thinking yesterday: | Nov 05 08:45 |
| schestowitz | they spend so much money on their videos | Nov 05 08:45 |
| schestowitz | which need much time and budget | Nov 05 08:45 |
| schestowitz | instead, they could produce lots of blog posts on important issues | Nov 05 08:45 |
| schestowitz | there's no lack of subjects they can cover | Nov 05 08:45 |
| Narrator | the data is much important than code | Nov 05 08:46 |
| schestowitz | listening devices, software patents, DMCA attack on youtube-dl | Nov 05 08:46 |
| schestowitz | yet the FSF barely publishes anything at all | Nov 05 08:46 |
| schestowitz | maybe 1-2 blog posts per week, or 0.2 per day | Nov 05 08:46 |
| schestowitz | so you wonder, what DOES the FSF do all this time? | Nov 05 08:46 |
| Narrator | well, nobody need new software and that menan that FSF is not so important to save | Nov 05 08:48 |
| Narrator | .. mean ... | Nov 05 08:48 |
| oiaohm | open source is still important. The reality is the cloud could have even more control on us if we do lose complete software control of our devices. | Nov 05 08:51 |
| oiaohm | Right to repair fights coming important long term as well. | Nov 05 08:53 |
| Narrator | well, cloud operators could force users to use some subset of current software and could mix properiety and open software | Nov 05 08:53 |
| Narrator | they don't need only part of it | Nov 05 08:53 |
| Narrator | i mean | Nov 05 08:54 |
| Narrator | they can use only few open source project | Nov 05 08:54 |
| *schestowitz does not diss FSF, just worries they became too inactive | Nov 05 08:54 | |
| *schestowitz also noticed they silence RMS | Nov 05 08:55 | |
| *schestowitz keeps getting messages from RMS saying he's worried about speaking to us in public | Nov 05 08:55 | |
| Narrator | well, if we have world where if you add 2-3 inproper comments in 30 years | Nov 05 08:56 |
| schestowitz | FSF is throwing birthday parties to itself, but it's rather meaningless TBH | Nov 05 08:56 |
| schestowitz | and I presume pays people for artwork related to the parties | Nov 05 08:56 |
| schestowitz | instead of infographics about software freedom | Nov 05 08:56 |
| Narrator | talk about ethics all the time and few comments make you the wrong gay ... | Nov 05 08:56 |
| Narrator | well, and nobody see this problem ... | Nov 05 08:57 |
| Narrator | well, do you think that it will risk anymore? | Nov 05 08:58 |
| Narrator | btw, i think he should migrate from usa | Nov 05 09:05 |
| vZS1 | GNU is still doing some good work. But FSF is just a waste of time now. | Nov 05 09:10 |
| vZS1 | I've unsubscribed from everything FSF. Their cancellation of RMS disgusted me. | Nov 05 09:12 |
| Narrator | all bombs are gnu powered:D | Nov 05 09:18 |
| Narrator | we need them:) | Nov 05 09:22 |
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| psydroid | <oiaohm "open source is still important. "> I am using a "smartphone" my uncle recently bought for my grandma, but it has a Chinese ROM and no option to unlock the bootloader and install another one. That is the kind of open source we are increasingly dealing with these days, weaponised and used against rather than in favour of the buyer. | Nov 05 10:39 |
| psydroid | <vZS1 "I've unsubscribed from everythin"> Even if GUIX is interesting from a technical perspective, I am not looking at it because most of the people who are involved are the same who conspired against RMS | Nov 05 10:41 |
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| oiaohm | psydroid: and you don't have the right to really repair that hardware either. Open Hardware bits out of open source like the pinephone I am seeing as long term important. | Nov 05 10:49 |
| oiaohm | Some of it is getting somehow getting buyers to class repairablity as a critical feature. | Nov 05 10:50 |
| psydroid | oiaohm, I was already looking at getting a replacement motherboard in case there is really no way to unlock the bootloader using some kind of exploit, but in the longer run I am thinking of designing replacement motherboards for existing phones and other devices as a way to liberate them | Nov 05 10:52 |
| psydroid | Yes, I wouldn't have bought this one and it's why I stuck with 4-year-old devices for so long, which I could control and only needed the kernel to be liberated | Nov 05 10:55 |
| psydroid | The irony is that you could install just a few bare applications on this phone while using a generic Android or GNU/Linux device for everything else, so I don't know what kind of control they want to achieve | Nov 05 10:56 |
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| vZS1 | psydroid: If you'd like some help, you could contact me. I'm working on low-resource dev and distribution solutions for Free Software. | Nov 05 11:09 |
| vZS1 | Re: GUIX. Even if it contains conspirers, we get still grab ideas from it. I think that's the pragmatic and effective thing to do. | Nov 05 11:10 |
| vZS1 | Not that the ideas are unique in any way. Declarative workflows have been around for ages. But it's useful to see an implementation. | Nov 05 11:11 |
| vZS1 | psydroid: we need people like you with hardware expertise. | Nov 05 11:12 |
| oiaohm | psydroid: there is the general problem with the idea of take existing device and replace board. It having to meet the exact power/heat budget based on the cooling of the case. | Nov 05 11:56 |
| oiaohm | It can be in a lot of cases simple to raid the old device for its screen and usable parts and do motherboard with new case so you can in fact match the cooling solution up right. | Nov 05 12:01 |
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| psydroid | maybe cutting the power budget would allow this to happen, although I agree developing open devices from the very beginning is what we really need | Nov 05 12:05 |
| oiaohm | Its not exactly power budget its the trapped heat problem | Nov 05 12:06 |
| vZS1 | psydroid: don't waste your time with oiaohm. Troll that only discourages and wastes time. | Nov 05 12:06 |
| oiaohm | If you are generating heat in the wrong location of the case where the cooling of the case it not designed to take heat way its a fast route to something over heated and dead. | Nov 05 12:06 |
| oiaohm | That happened with few protoboards to upgrade old neo phones. | Nov 05 12:07 |
| oiaohm | That was a open source case where you had the thermal model. | Nov 05 12:09 |
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| oiaohm | vZS1: sorry he has known me longer than you have . | Nov 05 12:10 |
| oiaohm | The most insane device for thermal design was the one apple laptop that had a fan that thermally was not connected to anything. So it sucked air in blow air out of case and effectivelly cooled nothing. Of course the thing throttled badly and commonly end life with a dead cpu. | Nov 05 12:18 |
| oiaohm | Normally just out of warranty. | Nov 05 12:18 |
| oiaohm | So some cheaper and expensive devices have totally crap thermal design in their case from the get go. | Nov 05 12:18 |
| schestowitz | [12:10] <oiaohm> vZS1: sorry he has known me longer than you have . | Nov 05 12:25 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm has been here over a decade | Nov 05 12:25 |
| schestowitz | he posted lots of good things too | Nov 05 12:25 |
| schestowitz | many people do not agree with him a lot of the time | Nov 05 12:25 |
| schestowitz | sometimes I do not agree with him, either | Nov 05 12:25 |
| schestowitz | but he is a real person, not a troll | Nov 05 12:25 |
| schestowitz | calling him "troll" cheapens the label to the point of comedy | Nov 05 12:26 |
| schestowitz | nobody is obliged to read oiaohm, all IRC clients have mute options (or similar) | Nov 05 12:26 |
| schestowitz | [09:12] <vZS1> I've unsubscribed from everything FSF. Their cancellation of RMS disgusted me. | Nov 05 12:27 |
| schestowitz | I still follow FSF, to be able to (at least) know what they're up to. There are still some decent people there. | Nov 05 12:28 |
| schestowitz | They tried pushing them out, but failed. | Nov 05 12:28 |
| schestowitz | They resist the efforts to make their lives miserable. | Nov 05 12:28 |
| schestowitz | e.g. by looking decades into their past for "wrongthing" | Nov 05 12:28 |
| schestowitz | like making "dumb blonde" jokes as college students | Nov 05 12:29 |
| schestowitz | *wrongthink | Nov 05 12:29 |
| schestowitz | apparently many things that used to be acceptable and humour are now "CoC violations" and this is being weaponised by coup executors | Nov 05 12:29 |
| schestowitz | One coup executor left the FSF | Nov 05 12:30 |
| schestowitz | He's till in SFC | Nov 05 12:30 |
| schestowitz | *still | Nov 05 12:30 |
| oiaohm | Is that the one that he history got looked at in the same level of detail and it was pot calling kettle black. | Nov 05 12:30 |
| oiaohm | I remember one of the who was going around doing CoC violation calls on a lot of people who got done in that way. | Nov 05 12:31 |
| schestowitz | and still taking dubious cash from Free software foes | Nov 05 12:34 |
| oiaohm | That leads back to the never ending problem how to fund software developement and support systems. | Nov 05 12:35 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19365806 | Nov 05 12:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Oh wow. Just received the #raspi by post. That was very, very fast! Will work on setting it set up tonight/overnight with #debian #gnu #linux ... | Nov 05 12:37 | |
| schestowitz | it interrupted what I was typing in IRC | Nov 05 12:37 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: outside one's freesw projects one can raise money | Nov 05 12:38 |
| schestowitz | my wife and I work all week long, technical job, so for the sites we don't need to worry about income | Nov 05 12:38 |
| schestowitz | and I even do a lot of coding since the lockdown started | Nov 05 12:38 |
| schestowitz | today is the first day of lockdown here. seeing how the postman handles parcel delivery is... interesting. but totally sensible. if this is becoming normal in society, we'll all look and act like weirdos. | Nov 05 12:39 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19365845 | Nov 05 12:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Purposes for the new #raspi include compute (one-board) 'cluster' for wife to offload heavily-used applications to... and access over ssh with X forwarding. It's one way to keep using very old (or cheap) PCs/machines... without having to buy new ones. Spreading loads. | Nov 05 12:41 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: when you are in a location being short on funds it get tempting to take money from those you should not. This applies to open source and closed source development equaly. How to fund your need software development. Some do have your option to do other jobs to fund it. Others don't. Some projects need full time developers to keep up with the problems. | Nov 05 12:43 |
| oiaohm | So its a horrible problem. | Nov 05 12:44 |
| oiaohm | Leads to some people making really bad choices long term. | Nov 05 12:44 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: it's different | Nov 05 12:52 |
| schestowitz | inherently | Nov 05 12:52 |
| schestowitz | freesw doesn't need to be a traditional job | Nov 05 12:52 |
| schestowitz | many debian devs have a job | Nov 05 12:53 |
| schestowitz | and debian project keeps them well trained and more useful to the employer | Nov 05 12:53 |
| schestowitz | e.g. maintaining packages that their employer relies on | Nov 05 12:53 |
| schestowitz | and then they become specialised and can expand those | Nov 05 12:53 |
| schestowitz | so it becomes sort of symbiotic | Nov 05 12:53 |
| schestowitz | my job is made easier by the fact I keep up with news | Nov 05 12:53 |
| oiaohm | I have seen the more well trained used in closed source for people to beta test different accountancy software. So the symbiotic appears in the closed source side as well. | Nov 05 12:55 |
| oiaohm | You can have the same downsides where employer need stuff done other than the packages in the debian case or the accountacy case the beta testing not get done. So there are side effects to that does not need to be a traditional job. | Nov 05 12:57 |
| oiaohm | Sometimes really project harmful side effects. | Nov 05 12:57 |
| oiaohm | Lot of this has to be case by case. | Nov 05 12:58 |
| oiaohm | https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/11/04/linux-and-libreoffice-migration-at-eyupsultan-municipality-in-turkey/ hmm nice story. | Nov 05 13:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | Linux and LibreOffice Migration at Eyรผpsultan Municipality in Turkey - The Document Foundation Blog | Nov 05 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | i saw that | Nov 05 13:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux and LibreOffice Migration at Eyรผpsultan Municipality in Turkey | Tux Machines | Nov 05 13:02 | |
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| schestowitz | [23:03] [Notice] -viera to #techrights- Tux Machines: Links 4/11/2020: Emmabuntรผs DE3 1.03, LXQt 0.16, GNU/Linux Migration in Turkey and Signed Git Pushes in Linux โข ๐๐ ด๐ ฒ๐ ท๐๐ ธ๐ ถ๐ ท๐๐ โ http://techrights.org/2020/11/04/signed-git-pushes-in-linux/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/9715d1f4-473a-4723-84fa-2d408c9b4c28] | Nov 05 13:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/11/2020: Emmabuntรผs DE3 1.03, LXQt 0.16, GNU/Linux Migration in Turkey and Signed Git Pushes in Linux | Techrights | Nov 05 13:02 | |
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| schestowitz | Istanbul just beat Manchester United | Nov 05 13:03 |
| schestowitz | (last night) | Nov 05 13:03 |
| schestowitz | home game for them | Nov 05 13:03 |
| schestowitz | Champions League | Nov 05 13:03 |
| schestowitz | Manchester United sucks so badly | Nov 05 13:03 |
| MinceR | 05 072937 < schestowitz> "So, when Agent Orange steals his employer's jet and flees the country in it, will he head to UA or KSA? Bets?" -iophk | Nov 05 13:05 |
| MinceR | why not russia? | Nov 05 13:05 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: it would make things too obvious ;-) | Nov 05 13:07 |
| schestowitz | He can go to Finland | Nov 05 13:07 |
| schestowitz | [22:48] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (็ฝไผ): Had #trump already sent an asylum-seeking application to Finland, Russia? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/19/finns-aghast-that-trump-could-think-their-country-is-part-of-russia [https://pleroma.site/objects/632718c7-09e8-4bb6-8e64-f1dfda0e69e1] | Nov 05 13:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Finns aghast that Trump could think their country is part of Russia | US news | The Guardian | Nov 05 13:07 | |
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| schestowitz | [13:04] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (็ฝไผ): โ NEWS โ #TruthOut โ #DeutscheBank May Seize #Trump 's Assets If He Loses and Fails to Repay #Debt https://truthout.org/articles/deutsche-bank-may-seize-trumps-assets-if-he-loses-and-fails-to-repay-debt/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/1058f7fe-9d3a-49e8-b099-af99a06be69e] | Nov 05 13:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Deutsche Bank May Seize Trump's Assets If He Loses and Fails to Repay Debt | Nov 05 13:07 | |
| schestowitz | [13:06] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (็ฝไผ): #biden already beats Orange Monster by 3.5 million voter (popular vote) as the gap continues to grow. For #trump it's White House or JAIL House. [https://pleroma.site/objects/b811247a-f451-45fe-84d6-81c83f63a12f] | Nov 05 13:07 |
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| schestowitz | I'll pay to watch THAT ;-) | Nov 05 13:08 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 05 13:10 |
| psydroid | Manchester United hasn't been the same since Alex Ferguson left and not even some of the biggest managers who were successful elsewhere have managed to right the ship (despite the occasional trophies they won), so maybe now it's time to go back to basics with a coach who has an actual plan | Nov 05 13:11 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://qz.com/1850130/thief-steals-two-planes-with-a-signature-and-a-stamp/ warped ways that aircraft at times get stolen. | Nov 05 13:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com | Thief steals two planes with a signature and a stamp โ Quartz | Nov 05 13:14 | |
| oiaohm | Its not stealing the aircraft that the hard bit. Its getting away with it. | Nov 05 13:15 |
| schestowitz | psydroid: well, at least we have Man City | Nov 05 13:15 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: it's hard to hide a plane | Nov 05 13:15 |
| schestowitz | and evidence of you receiving it | Nov 05 13:15 |
| schestowitz | you can't just pocket it with a balaclava on | Nov 05 13:16 |
| oiaohm | Its not impossible. | Nov 05 13:16 |
| schestowitz | in a black market | Nov 05 13:16 |
| schestowitz | in proper channels you have to register it, like you do houses | Nov 05 13:17 |
| oiaohm | In a war game here Australia vs USA. Australia mil stole USA battle ship for 6 days using a cyclone to cover up the crime and making the USA forces think it was sunk and was looking for it for 6 days. | Nov 05 13:17 |
| oiaohm | Mind you it was 24 hours from disappearing completely. | Nov 05 13:18 |
| oiaohm | 5 days stripping the internals of the ship there was not much left inside when the USA got it back. | Nov 05 13:18 |
| oiaohm | they caught on when the Australian mil were planning the cutting up. | Nov 05 13:19 |
| oiaohm | Same thing could be done to an aircraft. | Nov 05 13:19 |
| MinceR | https://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/1823.html | Nov 05 13:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & Droids | Nov 05 13:21 | |
| oiaohm | You have to wonder if any of the stuff to disappear in the Bermuda triangle was just not carefully planned and well executed theift. | Nov 05 13:24 |
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| notanamber | Hello everyone, and congratulations on the work of techright. | Nov 05 13:40 |
| notanamber | I don't know if this is the right place to ask: | Nov 05 13:40 |
| notanamber | with friends we'd like to leave github for our projects. There are free alternatives or better than github (besides hosting the repositories on our own servers) | Nov 05 13:40 |
| notanamber | are there... | Nov 05 13:41 |
| XRevan86 | notanamber: You could consider Codeberg, an instance of Gitea. | Nov 05 13:43 |
| schestowitz | notanamber: hi | Nov 05 13:43 |
| schestowitz | I was going to suggest the same | Nov 05 13:43 |
| schestowitz | exactly those two | Nov 05 13:43 |
| schestowitz | because unlike gitlab you get access to everything | Nov 05 13:44 |
| schestowitz | and can self-host afaik | Nov 05 13:44 |
| schestowitz | now sure what codeberg is based on | Nov 05 13:44 |
| schestowitz | FSF said that (by this year's end?) it would have new hosting for gnu also | Nov 05 13:44 |
| schestowitz | based on gitlab as template I heard | Nov 05 13:44 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Codeberg is an instance of Gitea. I didn't list two things ;) | Nov 05 13:44 |
| schestowitz | ok, makes sense | Nov 05 13:44 |
| schestowitz | gitea need to delete github | Nov 05 13:45 |
| schestowitz | it had plans to, predating the microsoft takeover | Nov 05 13:45 |
| schestowitz | I think it's still en route | Nov 05 13:45 |
| schestowitz | it'll be fun when gitea is developed on gitea | Nov 05 13:45 |
| schestowitz | like git is developed with git | Nov 05 13:45 |
| schestowitz | and gcc compiles gcc | Nov 05 13:45 |
| schestowitz | or riaa dmca's itself | Nov 05 13:46 |
| notanamber | ah great many thanks for the advices.. then I think I will look into Codeberg in more depth | Nov 05 13:46 |
| notanamber | I think we should wait for the gnu versioning | Nov 05 13:47 |
| notanamber | :) | Nov 05 13:47 |
| schestowitz | there's an articl3 | Nov 05 13:48 |
| schestowitz | from a friend | Nov 05 13:48 |
| schestowitz | https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2020/06/an-adventure-in-codebergorg-review-by-a-non-programmer.html | Nov 05 13:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntubuzz.com | An Adventure in Codeberg.org - A Review by A Non-Programmer | Nov 05 13:48 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2019/11/codeberg-gitea-notabug-for-you-switching-from-github.html | Nov 05 13:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntubuzz.com | Codeberg, Gitea, & Notabug for You Switching from GitHub | Nov 05 13:48 | |
| schestowitz | you might want to read these as he spent loads of time on it | Nov 05 13:48 |
| schestowitz | he said he was inspired by us | Nov 05 13:48 |
| notanamber | schestowitz, bookmarked! | Nov 05 13:50 |
| MinceR | (cat) (audio) https://i.imgur.com/UekgLDB.mp4 | Nov 05 13:51 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: just what the chef ordered... | Nov 05 13:54 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 05 13:54 |
| schestowitz | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24993016 | Nov 05 13:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | No Excuses Left, Time to Leave the GitHub Monopoly | Hacker News | Nov 05 13:59 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 05 13:59 |
| schestowitz | blah blah. | Nov 05 13:59 |
| schestowitz | I think github has actually been a force for good. I don't see much evidence of microsoft screwing it up either. | Nov 05 13:59 |
| schestowitz | As to youtube-dl - I'm a user of it and I like it a lot. But there are some points on the RIAA complaint I think they have to deal with. | Nov 05 13:59 |
| schestowitz | I'm pretty sure there's a way to put a form of youtube-dl on the site that downloads videos as before yet skirts the RIAA complaint. | Nov 05 13:59 |
| schestowitz | But that's not something github can do for them. I think github has to follow the law and let it play out. | Nov 05 13:59 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 05 13:59 |
| schestowitz | Quite a few Microsoft apologists in there | Nov 05 13:59 |
| notanamber | "t is very easy to paint Microsoft as the villain of open source movements, but action speak louder than words. With their latest commitments to Linux, Github and the NPM ecosystem" | Nov 05 14:08 |
| notanamber | hahaah | Nov 05 14:09 |
| schestowitz | coup is love | Nov 05 14:09 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft loves coup | Nov 05 14:09 |
| schestowitz | "thank you Microsoft" | Nov 05 14:09 |
| schestowitz | now buy Linux | Nov 05 14:09 |
| schestowitz | show us the "love" | Nov 05 14:09 |
| MinceR | "hacker" noise is full of shit | Nov 05 14:09 |
| schestowitz | yup | Nov 05 14:09 |
| MinceR | full of cancerd apologists | Nov 05 14:09 |
| MinceR | full of microshit apologists | Nov 05 14:09 |
| schestowitz | I've long said that | Nov 05 14:09 |
| notanamber | contributions that it was better not to make | Nov 05 14:09 |
| MinceR | it's the new slashdot | Nov 05 14:09 |
| schestowitz | the other comments threat there about techrights (earlier this week) was reasonably OK | Nov 05 14:09 |
| schestowitz | but they're full of Microsoft apologists, same as Reddit | Nov 05 14:10 |
| schestowitz | /. used to be OK in the old days | Nov 05 14:10 |
| schestowitz | Chris DiBona, who worked there, wrote to me about what he saw | Nov 05 14:10 |
| schestowitz | before he went to Google | Nov 05 14:10 |
| schestowitz | they were trolled to the death | Nov 05 14:10 |
| schestowitz | and he didn't to tell me all the details | Nov 05 14:10 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft identified the enemy and destroyed it | Nov 05 14:11 |
| schestowitz | In years that followed they planted Microsoft boosters there | Nov 05 14:11 |
| schestowitz | like a mole who was gloating about the generosity of iIll Gates | Nov 05 14:11 |
| MinceR | "The RIAA causes outrage and fury worldwide by listing Icona Pop in the same set as Justin Timberlake and Taylor Swift. Hackernews wrestles with their value judgments; their firm stance as bootlickers for megacorporations has finally crashed headlong into their equally firm belief that programmers should never be held to any legal or moral standards. What results is a wide-ranging display of profound | Nov 05 14:11 |
| schestowitz | disguised as "news for geeks" | Nov 05 14:11 |
| MinceR | confusion, as Hackernews realizes they don't have clear definitions of literally any of the words involved in internet video, copyright law, the American legal process, or website hosting." -- http://n-gate.com/ | Nov 05 14:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-n-gate.com. we can't both be right. | Nov 05 14:11 | |
| MinceR | /. not being full of shit was very long ago | Nov 05 14:11 |
| schestowitz | early 2000s and later 90s | Nov 05 14:15 |
| schestowitz | Some examples in http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Slashdot | Nov 05 14:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Slashdot - Techrights | Nov 05 14:15 | |
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| MinceR | https://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/1824.html | Nov 05 14:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & Droids | Nov 05 14:20 | |
| psydroid | yesterday, as I was testing a (botched) kernel on my Orange Pi running Debian Bullseye, typhoid was taking up to 5 minutes to boot | Nov 05 14:31 |
| schestowitz | wow | Nov 05 14:46 |
| schestowitz | with systemd my old laptop took less than that to boot, maybe 3 minutes | Nov 05 14:46 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 05 14:47 |
| schestowitz | prior to systemd it took under a minute | Nov 05 14:48 |
| schestowitz | i never ran a systemd profiler to find out what the hell it was doing | Nov 05 14:48 |
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| kingoffrance | slashdot is funny cuz they always had either-or headlines...which was kind of a running joke...then a few years later the real news all looked the same and it wasnt so funny lol | Nov 05 14:52 |
| kingoffrance | its like when jon stewart went on fox and he said "i do a comedy show, why are you comparing yourselves to me?" | Nov 05 14:52 |
| kingoffrance | "you realize my show is supposed to be fake, right?" lol | Nov 05 14:53 |
| kingoffrance | not saying it wasnt always like that | Nov 05 14:53 |
| kingoffrance | just as news went online IMO it got more and more like that | Nov 05 14:53 |
| kingoffrance | more clickbaity | Nov 05 14:53 |
| kingoffrance | and showed up in the print stuff too more IMO | Nov 05 14:54 |
| vZS1 | FreeBSD is really snappy if you just care about speed | Nov 05 14:54 |
| vZS1 | They have decent support for ARM | Nov 05 14:54 |
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| schestowitz | *Expire | Nov 05 17:21 |
| vZS1 | Too busy rolling around in that hush money | Nov 05 17:21 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Someone ported Fuschia OS to the Linux kernel. | Nov 05 18:18 |
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| vZS1 | Happy birthday to Tech Rights! ๐ | Nov 05 20:11 |
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| schestowitz | ty! | Nov 05 20:21 |
| schestowitz | and welcome | Nov 05 20:21 |
| schestowitz | join us | Nov 05 20:21 |
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| esaym153 | AMD Ryzen 9 5900X/5950X Linux Gaming Performance-> man looks nice. Too bad covid took all my money | Nov 05 21:10 |
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| schestowitz | esaym153: the money was pass to rich people | Nov 05 21:25 |
| schestowitz | and their offshore heaven | Nov 05 21:25 |
| schestowitz | money is debt | Nov 05 21:25 |
| schestowitz | and a man-made concept | Nov 05 21:25 |
| schestowitz | looks like all the liabilities are being passed downwards now | Nov 05 21:25 |
| schestowitz | we're not all together in this... http://techrights.org/2020/10/25/donald-trump-and-bill-gates/ | Nov 05 21:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Donald Trump Helped Bill Gates Increase His Wealth by More Than 50%, Especially During the Pandemic | Techrights | Nov 05 21:26 | |
| schestowitz | they even got STIMULUS money | Nov 05 21:26 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/18/microsoft-graft/ | Nov 05 21:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With Help From Donald Trump, Microsoft is Plundering and Looting the American Taxpayers, Then Gloating About It | Techrights | Nov 05 21:26 | |
| schestowitz | vZS1: https://www.maketecheasier.com/cryptolocally-review/ | Nov 05 21:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | CryptoLocally: The Easy & Secure Way to Trade Cryptocurrency - Make Tech Easier | Nov 05 21:41 | |
| schestowitz | lol | Nov 05 21:41 |
| schestowitz | it says "crypto" | Nov 05 21:42 |
| schestowitz | so it's "OK" | Nov 05 21:42 |
| vZS1 | schestowitz: wasn't online, sorry. | Nov 05 21:43 |
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| amreo | Hi. Do you advice me for donating to FSF/gnu.org or FSFE? | Nov 05 21:59 |
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| amreo | I want to support the Free Software movement. Who would you recommend me to donate to? | Nov 05 22:01 |
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| schestowitz | hi | Nov 05 22:23 |
| schestowitz | gnu doesn't do donations, except via FSF | Nov 05 22:23 |
| schestowitz | FSFE is, imho, scammy | Nov 05 22:23 |
| schestowitz | they misuse the FSF's name to raise money for their staff | Nov 05 22:24 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/fsf-fsfe-dispute/ | Nov 05 22:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Leak: FSF/FSFE Trademark Dispute (FSF Demanding That FSFE Should Change the Organisationโs Name) | Techrights | Nov 05 22:24 | |
| schestowitz | there are more leaks to that effect | Nov 05 22:24 |
| schestowitz | FSF feels like FSFE raised a million euros just by misleading people into thinking it's connected to the FSF | Nov 05 22:25 |
| schestowitz | which it isn't | Nov 05 22:25 |
| schestowitz | so asked them to change name | Nov 05 22:25 |
| schestowitz | which they declined/refused to do | Nov 05 22:25 |
| schestowitz | FSFE already gets plenty of money from Google | Nov 05 22:25 |
| schestowitz | amreo: also see techrights.org/2020/08/23/osi-fsfe-collusion-and-coordination/ | Nov 05 22:29 |
| schestowitz | short story is, they worked with OSI to undermine RMS and the message of software freedom | Nov 05 22:29 |
| schestowitz | as if the attack on FS if the same as FS | Nov 05 22:29 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Comcast is selling unlimited data now. But you get 1.2 TB each month without that. | Nov 05 22:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They actually added 200 GB since last time. | Nov 05 22:44 |
| schestowitz | it's also selling data to companies | Nov 05 22:44 |
| schestowitz | like data brokers | Nov 05 22:44 |
| schestowitz | but Mozilla helps them | Nov 05 22:44 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/25/mozilla-comcast/ | Nov 05 22:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Shames Itself and Harms Its Reputation by Stating That โComcast Has Taken Major Steps to Protect Customer Privacyโ | Techrights | Nov 05 22:44 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: when things settle down maybe you can ask the court for those Jones docs? | Nov 05 22:44 |
| schestowitz | would help to bring to light new info and court docs | Nov 05 22:45 |
| schestowitz | as the media seems to have lost interest | Nov 05 22:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They had a $25 internet plan for 12 months. You just call and complain every year and they put you back on it. | Nov 05 22:45 |
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| vZS1 | schestowitz: the amount of misinformation in that post. I don't even want to get started | Nov 05 22:56 |
| vZS1 | There's nothing anonymous about most Blockchain | Nov 05 22:56 |
| vZS1 | They use Know Your Customer (KYC) to track people | Nov 05 22:57 |
| vZS1 | And "crypto". ๐คฆโโ๏ธ | Nov 05 22:57 |
| vZS1 | But go ahead people | Nov 05 22:58 |
| vZS1 | Blow your money on some of the most volatile financial instruments in recorded history | Nov 05 22:58 |
| schestowitz | yup | Nov 05 22:59 |
| schestowitz | cyptosmartcloud(TM) | Nov 05 22:59 |
| schestowitz | order today | Nov 05 23:00 |
| schestowitz | with your credit card on an "app" | Nov 05 23:00 |
| schestowitz | no refunds unless you give us your email address | Nov 05 23:00 |
| vZS1 | Cash is the best. Hardest to track | Nov 05 23:02 |
| vZS1 | Anything digital leaves a red hot trail | Nov 05 23:02 |
| vZS1 | Even the stuff like Monero. People need to withdraw digital currency from somewhere | Nov 05 23:03 |
| vZS1 | And it's not like you get competitive spreads. Conversion eats into profit a lot deeper for so much volatility. | Nov 05 23:06 |
| schestowitz | well, here's the thing | Nov 05 23:07 |
| schestowitz | the other day we checked out finances | Nov 05 23:07 |
| vZS1 | The only people making money off this is the broker | Nov 05 23:07 |
| schestowitz | amid covid and all | Nov 05 23:07 |
| schestowitz | so we checked what savings accounts are like | Nov 05 23:07 |
| schestowitz | guess what | Nov 05 23:07 |
| schestowitz | when you go to banks' sites | Nov 05 23:07 |
| schestowitz | go to savers' section | Nov 05 23:07 |
| schestowitz | and their variants | Nov 05 23:07 |
| schestowitz | they advertise almost nothing | Nov 05 23:07 |
| schestowitz | and they hide raes | Nov 05 23:07 |
| schestowitz | *rates | Nov 05 23:07 |
| schestowitz | you need to dig deep down | Nov 05 23:07 |
| vZS1 | Yeah. I handle a lot of finances. | Nov 05 23:08 |
| schestowitz | even for ISAs | Nov 05 23:08 |
| schestowitz | because | Nov 05 23:08 |
| vZS1 | Get a SIPP | Nov 05 23:08 |
| schestowitz | the interest rates are a JOKES | Nov 05 23:08 |
| vZS1 | It's better than an ISA | Nov 05 23:08 |
| schestowitz | for locking money down for two years you get 0.2% AER | Nov 05 23:08 |
| schestowitz | this is LAUGHABLE | Nov 05 23:08 |
| vZS1 | Government tops up your SIPP | Nov 05 23:08 |
| schestowitz | sso the whole concept you want money in the bank goes away | Nov 05 23:08 |
| schestowitz | the money cannot grow there at all | Nov 05 23:08 |
| vZS1 | Look into a SIPP | Nov 05 23:08 |
| schestowitz | normal ISAs at 0.05% | Nov 05 23:08 |
| schestowitz | interest-free accounts might soon have negative interest | Nov 05 23:09 |
| schestowitz | see Cyprus a decade back | Nov 05 23:09 |
| schestowitz | anyway, storing more money in cash outside the bank seems more harmless | Nov 05 23:09 |
| schestowitz | if not safer too | Nov 05 23:09 |
| schestowitz | they cannot easily confiscate it | Nov 05 23:09 |
| schestowitz | I wonder if the new notes and coins are about deprecating the old ones and limiting the money supply | Nov 05 23:10 |
| vZS1 | You're better off splitting your cash into low-risk instruments | Nov 05 23:10 |
| schestowitz | so as to discourage cash payments and 'ownership' of physical money | Nov 05 23:10 |
| schestowitz | (did not check) | Nov 05 23:10 |
| schestowitz | this theory would hold up if the cash supply was, in fact, leading to shortages | Nov 05 23:11 |
| schestowitz | some places won't accept cash anymore | Nov 05 23:11 |
| schestowitz | and they GLOAT about it | Nov 05 23:11 |
| schestowitz | they are SO "smart" | Nov 05 23:11 |
| schestowitz | https://www.linuxnix.com/linux-security-hardening-for-beginners-part-02-iptables/ | Nov 05 23:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxnix.com | Linux Security Hardening for Beginners Part 02 โ IPTABLES - The Linux Juggernaut | Nov 05 23:11 | |
| vZS1 | Don't forget that ISAs have holding fees | Nov 05 23:12 |
| vZS1 | And it's not always flat rate | Nov 05 23:12 |
| vZS1 | Usually it's % | Nov 05 23:12 |
| vZS1 | So you lose over time | Nov 05 23:12 |
| vZS1 | Self Investment Private Pension is worth looking into. Because the government tops it up for you. 20% | Nov 05 23:13 |
| vZS1 | Say you put in 10k | Nov 05 23:13 |
| vZS1 | You get 2k from the gov | Nov 05 23:13 |
| vZS1 | But you can only start withdrawing after 55 | Nov 05 23:14 |
| schestowitz | pension? | Nov 05 23:14 |
| vZS1 | Yes | Nov 05 23:14 |
| vZS1 | SIPP | Nov 05 23:14 |
| schestowitz | Don't trust them at times like these.. | Nov 05 23:14 |
| schestowitz | I'm actually about to withdraw my pension money | Nov 05 23:14 |
| vZS1 | It's a private one | Nov 05 23:14 |
| schestowitz | and pay the massive tax on doing that | Nov 05 23:14 |
| vZS1 | You don't get taxed on a SIPP | Nov 05 23:14 |
| schestowitz | that's like locking money away for decades | Nov 05 23:15 |
| schestowitz | with no real guarantee of it still there | Nov 05 23:15 |
| schestowitz | and seeing 2007/2008, now COVID, who the heck knows what's ahead | Nov 05 23:15 |
| schestowitz | not to mentioon brexshit | Nov 05 23:15 |
| vZS1 | Pretty sure you get protection up to a certain amount | Nov 05 23:15 |
| vZS1 | But that's in the fine print | Nov 05 23:16 |
| vZS1 | I think the protection is capped at ยฃ85k | Nov 05 23:18 |
| schestowitz | yes, that's the one | Nov 05 23:18 |
| schestowitz | per person | Nov 05 23:18 |
| schestowitz | so a couple: 170k | Nov 05 23:19 |
| vZS1 | Yeah | Nov 05 23:19 |
| schestowitz | has anyone TESTED this protection? | Nov 05 23:19 |
| schestowitz | and who offers the collateral? | Nov 05 23:19 |
| vZS1 | You'd have to look it up. | Nov 05 23:19 |
| schestowitz | "Borishhh"? | Nov 05 23:19 |
| vZS1 | You get decent tax privileges in ISAs and SIPPs. There's many kinds of each | Nov 05 23:20 |
| schestowitz | Soon they might say this protection is limited to $GROUP | Nov 05 23:20 |
| schestowitz | Under %CONDITIONS | Nov 05 23:20 |
| vZS1 | Much better than cryptoclown | Nov 05 23:20 |
| schestowitz | we have cryptoBorus | Nov 05 23:20 |
| vZS1 | But that's not hard | Nov 05 23:20 |
| vZS1 | Tbh, if you have decent savings, just keep it safe. Enjoy retirement responsibly. If you're a couple, it should be easier. | Nov 05 23:21 |
| schestowitz | We'll see | Nov 05 23:22 |
| schestowitz | not thinking about retirement yet, I'm 38 | Nov 05 23:23 |
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| schestowitz | yuppie-ism and early-retirement-ism are waning anyway, as retirement ages go up, along with inflation that devalues savings and sinking interest rates | Nov 05 23:24 |
| schestowitz | it's moving towards, "work till you die, die for 'the economy'" (queen and country) | Nov 05 23:24 |
| MinceR | "For the economy! :charges:" | Nov 05 23:26 |
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| vZS1 | I need to check out that RMS thing you posted earlier | Nov 05 23:31 |
| schestowitz | it's disturbing | Nov 05 23:31 |
| schestowitz | not the video | Nov 05 23:31 |
| schestowitz | the hosting site | Nov 05 23:31 |
| schestowitz | [22:12] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (็ฝไผ): Very, very strange: (reproducible on two machines, several times) when visiting the #mediagoblin Web site/s it seems like the system toggles on "Sync Selections" (selection to clipboard). Why and how? Who the heck knows! [https://pleroma.site/objects/3032d4a8-25e4-46f3-8f26-3187cde59446] | Nov 05 23:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Nov 05 23:31 | |
| schestowitz | [21:16] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (็ฝไผ): Not for the first time, over the past 2 hours I've wasted loads of rime trying to 'unfsck' my machine after merely visiting #mediagoblin site screwed up its state. Reproducible in my prior PC as well. Is reboot the last recourse? [https://pleroma.site/objects/ba0856b7-c153-45a6-871c-07810b19e70d] | Nov 05 23:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Nov 05 23:32 | |
| schestowitz | [21:02] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (็ฝไผ): For a very long time, over a year for sure on several machines, each time I visited the #mediagoblin site it would 'break' my machine and applications somehow, e.g. screw up clipboard stacks and freeze things. Not sure why. [https://pleroma.site/objects/dd4a4466-7f4b-487c-a983-98deea72c3a2] | Nov 05 23:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Nov 05 23:32 | |
| schestowitz | I wasted over an hour on this yesterday | Nov 05 23:32 |
| schestowitz | tried loads of things | Nov 05 23:32 |
| schestowitz | then found the culprit | Nov 05 23:32 |
| schestowitz | both in openbox and in kde plasma I saw this issue, encountered it repeatedly, drove me up the wall for hours | Nov 05 23:33 |
| schestowitz | can a browser alter settings at that level? | Nov 05 23:33 |
| vZS1 | Goodness knows what they put in browsers these days | Nov 05 23:33 |
| schestowitz | even after it is closed? | Nov 05 23:33 |
| schestowitz | I pretty much restarted all processes, inc. plasmashell itself | Nov 05 23:33 |
| schestowitz | turns out klipper is no longer its own process | Nov 05 23:33 |
| vZS1 | Try running your browser as a different user | Nov 05 23:34 |
| schestowitz | A shame that a gnu site of all things causes me this mess repeatedly | Nov 05 23:34 |
| schestowitz | you'd think their "simple" solution for video would be least harmful | Nov 05 23:34 |
| schestowitz | in klipper the settings was set to "Sync Selections" | Nov 05 23:34 |
| schestowitz | it was never turned on | Nov 05 23:34 |
| schestowitz | this always happens when I access the mediagoblin sites | Nov 05 23:35 |
| schestowitz | something about them causes this | Nov 05 23:35 |
| schestowitz | not a new issue | Nov 05 23:35 |
| schestowitz | it totally breaks my workflow for ages | Nov 05 23:35 |
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| schestowitz | This time at least I got to the bottom of it | Nov 05 23:37 |
| schestowitz | no reboots or anything | Nov 05 23:37 |
| schestowitz | so if or when it happens again I'll know where to check | Nov 05 23:37 |
| schestowitz | but still. wth?! | Nov 05 23:37 |
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| vZS1 | Create a new user for your browser | Nov 05 23:40 |
| vZS1 | You'll be able to see what's going on a lot easier | Nov 05 23:40 |
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| schestowitz | hm... gotta get a keyboard for the raspi | Nov 05 23:49 |
| schestowitz | the ones I have are partly faulty | Nov 05 23:49 |
| schestowitz | I suppose I can install barrier and just use a remote keyboard | Nov 05 23:50 |
| schestowitz | after setup | Nov 05 23:50 |
| schestowitz | buying another monitor at a physical store would be hard now | Nov 05 23:50 |
| schestowitz | aiming for second-hand | Nov 05 23:50 |
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| vZS1 | Got 2 HDMI ports on my monitor. Pi is hooked up to the spare port | Nov 05 23:57 |
| vZS1 | Why don't you just use the Pi headless. | Nov 05 23:58 |
| schestowitz | some iterm were sold out | Nov 05 23:58 |
| schestowitz | I can use it headless, but not for setup | Nov 05 23:58 |
| schestowitz | will start around 1am | Nov 05 23:59 |
| schestowitz | I have the microsd card | Nov 05 23:59 |
| schestowitz | and some peripheral someone bought for us | Nov 05 23:59 |
| schestowitz | I never assembled these myself, typically I use old laptops | Nov 05 23:59 |
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