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DaemonFC[m] | Seems the consensus is that it's basically unusable as a desktop system. | Dec 05 00:00 |
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MinceR | well, of course. it's got cancerd. | Dec 05 00:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | Everything is a "pain" and someone also said the package manager is "limited". | Dec 05 00:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | Doesn't seem like Intel is really putting a lot of effort in. | Dec 05 00:00 |
schestowitz | +2,555 new #covid19 deaths so far today in the US | Dec 05 00:01 |
DaemonFC[m] | It looks like Ubuntu is backporting patches for memory leaks and performance issues into GNOME for the LTS from later versions. | Dec 05 00:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | Even if GNOME themselves isn't backporting them to the point releases. | Dec 05 00:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | Eh, Ubuntu is stuck with the version of GNOME longer than upstream supports it anyway. | Dec 05 00:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | I wonder how long until they just do what RHEL does and bring in new versions of GNOME to the LTS. | Dec 05 00:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | I don't see where the appeal for RHEL is these days. The whole pitch was that they were conservative to minimize breakage and regressions. | Dec 05 00:03 |
schestowitz | Ubuntu might not even be focused on desktops anymore | Dec 05 00:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | They don't seem to be very conservative anymore. | Dec 05 00:03 |
schestowitz | seeing their "market strategy" is basically CLOWN | Dec 05 00:03 |
schestowitz | Microsoft et al | Dec 05 00:03 |
schestowitz | sucking up to GAFAM | Dec 05 00:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | Well, in some ways their retreat has been for the best. | Dec 05 00:04 |
schestowitz | for some "share" of computer time fees | Dec 05 00:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | Unity was not great and Richard Stallman called it spyware. | Dec 05 00:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | Because of the keylogger in the lenses. | Dec 05 00:04 |
schestowitz | I asked him to | Dec 05 00:04 |
schestowitz | so he did | Dec 05 00:04 |
schestowitz | Jono lost his marbles | Dec 05 00:04 |
schestowitz | and the coup against RMS had been cooking even prior to that | Dec 05 00:05 |
schestowitz | notice jono is no longer in this channel | Dec 05 00:05 |
schestowitz | maybe moved on to SLACK of MICROSOFT TEAMS :-) | Dec 05 00:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | I always separate my search and address bar and disable autocomplete searches in the address bar. | Dec 05 00:05 |
schestowitz | let's see if he's on this network at all | Dec 05 00:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | In the search bar, that's fine. In the address bar, it sends Google or Microsoft all of the stuff you type so they know where you're heading even if it's not a search. | Dec 05 00:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | So Firefox cloned it and called it an "awesomebar". | Dec 05 00:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | Like, really....? | Dec 05 00:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I tried bringing in Seamonkey a while back. | Dec 05 00:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's rather sickly lately due to the Gecko platform changes. | Dec 05 00:07 |
schestowitz | :08] [Error] jono: No such nick/channel. | Dec 05 00:08 |
schestowitz | [00:08] [Whois] End of WHOIS list. | Dec 05 00:08 |
schestowitz | [00:08] [Raw] whois jonobacon | Dec 05 00:08 |
schestowitz | [00:08] [Error] jonobacon: No such nick/channel. | Dec 05 00:08 |
schestowitz | [00:08] [Whois] End of WHOIS list. | Dec 05 00:08 |
schestowitz | oh, wait, I found him | Dec 05 00:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | nomobacon? | Dec 05 00:09 |
schestowitz | [00:09] [Raw] whois loser | Dec 05 00:09 |
schestowitz | [00:09] [Whois] loser is ~loser@149.28.253.253.chromeshome.net (ZNC - https://znc.in) | Dec 05 00:09 |
schestowitz | [00:09] [Whois] loser is online via verne.freenode.net (Amsterdam, NL, EU). | Dec 05 00:09 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.znc.in | ZNC | Dec 05 00:09 | |
schestowitz | :-D | Dec 05 00:09 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/04/08/jono-bacon-works-for-microsoft/ | Dec 05 00:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Jono Bacon Works for Microsoft | Techrights | Dec 05 00:10 | |
schestowitz | he defected basically | Dec 05 00:10 |
schestowitz | then got endorsed by Microsoft | Dec 05 00:10 |
schestowitz | after working for github and doing 'consulting' for Microsoft | Dec 05 00:10 |
schestowitz | which means taking a bribe, laundering that bribe as "advice from smart man" | Dec 05 00:10 |
schestowitz | very smart... to be taking that money | Dec 05 00:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | They must have been impressed by the metal free software song dot ogg. | Dec 05 00:10 |
schestowitz | so they buy themselves "community" creds on the cheap | Dec 05 00:11 |
schestowitz | and his reputation is now gone, for that money | Dec 05 00:11 |
schestowitz | he used to do heaby metal | Dec 05 00:11 |
schestowitz | even free software song as metal | Dec 05 00:11 |
schestowitz | not the only heavy metal he likes is dimes and quarters | Dec 05 00:11 |
schestowitz | by the tonnes | Dec 05 00:12 |
schestowitz | he's not alone | Dec 05 00:12 |
schestowitz | stormy peters | Dec 05 00:12 |
schestowitz | but she sold out over a decade ago | Dec 05 00:12 |
schestowitz | worked for some microsoft veteran at openlogic | Dec 05 00:12 |
schestowitz | who afaik no longer operate... they're invisible | Dec 05 00:12 |
schestowitz | but at the end, like Jesus Das Caza, she "came home to Jes... I mean, Microsoft" | Dec 05 00:13 |
schestowitz | covid19 deaths: 241 today in texas | Dec 05 00:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | He had been trying to get on at Microsoft since the 90s. | Dec 05 00:13 |
schestowitz | no wonder the troll courts there canceled all the hearing till March | Dec 05 00:13 |
schestowitz | even GIlstrap realised it's not a "hoax" | Dec 05 00:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | Applied at their Internet Explorer team in like 1997 I think? | Dec 05 00:14 |
schestowitz | I bet he voted Trump | Dec 05 00:14 |
schestowitz | yes, he did | Dec 05 00:14 |
schestowitz | a year later started gnome | Dec 05 00:14 |
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DaemonFC[m] | They told him he couldn't get a visa so they couldn't hire him at that point. | Dec 05 00:14 |
schestowitz | gnu didn't heed the warning | Dec 05 00:14 |
schestowitz | he was a Microsoft loyalist all along | Dec 05 00:14 |
schestowitz | and was used like a mole | Dec 05 00:14 |
schestowitz | rms called him "traitor" later | Dec 05 00:14 |
schestowitz | apparently Facebook is better at the 'visa mill' | Dec 05 00:15 |
schestowitz | to the point where there's a big lawsuit now | Dec 05 00:15 |
schestowitz | Microsoft has done this for decades | Dec 05 00:15 |
schestowitz | Grasley blasted them for it | Dec 05 00:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Someone bought an HP Omen laptop from Walmart's Black Friday sale. | Dec 05 00:15 |
schestowitz | but nothing ever came out of it | Dec 05 00:15 |
schestowitz | now they don't hire, they use temps and contractors | Dec 05 00:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | Said that they couldn't even use it because the first thing it did were fetch failed updates and go into a boot loop. | Dec 05 00:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | I remembered hearing something from Microsoft about how if the updates failed it would quit trying to apply them, and that was years ago. | Dec 05 00:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | I guess they're back at it. | Dec 05 00:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | Alex St. John, the guy behind DirectX, was talking about what a disaster Windows Update had turned into with Windows 10. | Dec 05 00:18 |
schestowitz | Windows Update is TECHNCIALLY a botnet | Dec 05 00:18 |
schestowitz | and botnets also imply you have no control over your machine and traffic in/out | Dec 05 00:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | he said it rendered his laptop unusable and he had to borrow a client's macbook. | Dec 05 00:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | Which sounds very professional, doesn't it? | Dec 05 00:18 |
schestowitz | unless you unplug it | Dec 05 00:18 |
schestowitz | but it'll resume the moment you replug | Dec 05 00:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft slipped in a P2P thing that uses your computer to send updates to others to keep their bandwidth costs down. | Dec 05 00:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | They use the bandwidth you're paying for instead. | Dec 05 00:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | How nice of them. | Dec 05 00:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | Even small Linux distributions that really do get by on $5 and $10 donations from people don't do things like that. | Dec 05 00:20 |
schestowitz | yeah | Dec 05 00:20 |
schestowitz | and for the latest back doors | Dec 05 00:20 |
schestowitz | and further pillage of data, control | Dec 05 00:21 |
schestowitz | windows should be classified accordingly | Dec 05 00:21 |
DaemonFC[m] | Here you have a trillion dollar company stealing your bandwidth that your ISP bills you for in "data packages" to serve updates. | Dec 05 00:21 |
schestowitz | nice company.. | Dec 05 00:21 |
schestowitz | many people don't know this BTW | Dec 05 00:21 |
schestowitz | the so-called 'media' is not talking about it | Dec 05 00:21 |
schestowitz | but... "MICROSOFT LOVES LINUX" | Dec 05 00:21 |
schestowitz | VERY important... PR campaign | Dec 05 00:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | Well, so many things Windows does are what you'd call malware if another program arrived on the computer and started ticking enough of those boxes. | Dec 05 00:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | In some cases, just one thing alone. | Dec 05 00:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | I'm not ready to call Firefox malware for anonymized usage data, although I turn it off. | Dec 05 00:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | But Windows doesn't anonymize it. | Dec 05 00:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft says they'll never use it to contact you or to identify you unless they have to in order to comply with a law. | Dec 05 00:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | And there's where you should be very afraid. | Dec 05 00:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | So there's over a billion devices with Windows 10 that are dutifully reporting home on everything from embarrassments (Watching porn, cheating on their spouse, etc....) to crimes (illegal porn, income tax evasion) to invasions of privacy that aren't criminal but could get you on a list (reading certain publications, etc.). | Dec 05 00:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | And you're right, most users don't consider it until the cops are there hauling away their computer and slapping them in handcuffs. | Dec 05 00:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | Or they are at an airport one day and CBP hauls them in for some "questioning". | Dec 05 00:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | Or they start getting embarrassing ads popping up somewhere else, like Facebook, and they are alarmed but don't know where they're coming from. | Dec 05 00:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | If the government thinks you're committing a crime, they ought to have to do some real police work to catch you and prove it in court. | Dec 05 00:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | They don't and a lot of it is companies like GAFAM just giving them stuff they collected. | Dec 05 00:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | The whole point of the entire tech industry being in on it is that they get a lot of data about you if you use any of it, and a complete picture if you use a few things. | Dec 05 00:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: There was an episode of The Orville where they reconstructed a holographic simulation of a woman based on an old cell phone they found. | Dec 05 00:30 |
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DaemonFC[m] | The computer was able to extrapolate a complete psychological profile about her from data from the phone and presumably archived records that went into the "cloud" at some point and nobody ever deleted because data storage just keeps getting easier so why bother. | Dec 05 00:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | The episode didn't even comment on the dystopian aspects of this. | Dec 05 00:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | The fact that devices and apps collect so much data that software can just predict what you will do. Then you get risk scores and they have their eyes on you without having to put in a lot of hours or anything. | Dec 05 00:31 |
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DaemonFC[m] | The NSA admitted that they pay special attention to people who they know use Tor. | Dec 05 00:32 |
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DaemonFC[m] | So it's basically getting people to admit they need privacy for some reason and then they become more interesting because they've called themselves out for extra attention. | Dec 05 00:32 |
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DaemonFC[m] | So, Tor is doing more harm than good by creating a Windows version. | Dec 05 00:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | They should drop the Windows version and say use Tails. | Dec 05 00:33 |
MinceR | you mean heads | Dec 05 00:33 |
MinceR | tails comes with an nsa backdoor | Dec 05 00:33 |
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schestowitz | systemd? | Dec 05 00:36 |
schestowitz | kdbus? | Dec 05 00:36 |
MinceR | systemd | Dec 05 00:38 |
schestowitz | nsa looked into kdbus | Dec 05 00:42 |
schestowitz | maybe systemd also | Dec 05 00:42 |
schestowitz | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=nsa-kdbus-credentials | Dec 05 00:42 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The NSA Is Looking At Systemd's KDBUS - Phoronix | Dec 05 00:42 | |
schestowitz | http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1507.1/01758.html | Dec 05 00:42 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu | Linux-Kernel Archive: kdbus: credential faking | Dec 05 00:42 | |
schestowitz | anyhow... systemd is in shithub | Dec 05 00:43 |
schestowitz | which nsa controls though microsoft | Dec 05 00:43 |
schestowitz | and for 'security' they now 'fix' your code for you | Dec 05 00:43 |
schestowitz | for security | Dec 05 00:44 |
schestowitz | they say | Dec 05 00:44 |
schestowitz | maybe also "national security" | Dec 05 00:44 |
schestowitz | Microsoft loves Pentagon (grift) | Dec 05 00:44 |
MinceR | the usa doesn't enforce antitrust law against microshit, and in exchange, microshit does everything they can to backdoor your computers for the usa | Dec 05 00:46 |
schestowitz | yeah | Dec 05 00:46 |
schestowitz | so the word goes | Dec 05 00:46 |
schestowitz | scuttled in exchange for closer cooperation | Dec 05 00:46 |
schestowitz | scuttling the antitrust verdict | Dec 05 00:47 |
schestowitz | no split-up | Dec 05 00:47 |
schestowitz | with IBM it was contracting outwards | Dec 05 00:47 |
schestowitz | giving software side, partly, to bill | Dec 05 00:47 |
vZS1 | I think Gentoo offers a lot of choice for users. The docs are pretty good too | Dec 05 00:47 |
schestowitz | coz bill's mom asked | Dec 05 00:47 |
vZS1 | They actually use bugzilla still | Dec 05 00:47 |
schestowitz | her failing son already had one bankrupt company | Dec 05 00:47 |
schestowitz | almost a second | Dec 05 00:47 |
schestowitz | mom to the rescue | Dec 05 00:48 |
vZS1 | OpenRC as well. Instead of systemd | Dec 05 00:48 |
MinceR | yeah, if i needed something built from source, i'd create a funtoo or gentoo stratum | Dec 05 00:48 |
vZS1 | I follow their RSS security feed | Dec 05 00:48 |
vZS1 | It's better than Debian's | Dec 05 00:49 |
vZS1 | Gentoo have an RSS for their bugzilla too | Dec 05 00:49 |
schestowitz | vZS1: as you can see if you check, I freed up many GBs on the raspi | Dec 05 00:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | We already set another record for new cases today. | Dec 05 00:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | Beat yesterday by over 2,000. | Dec 05 00:50 |
vZS1 | schestowitz: I'll have a look later | Dec 05 00:50 |
schestowitz | uploading new indexes now | Dec 05 00:50 |
schestowitz | the process gets slower | Dec 05 00:50 |
schestowitz | now takes 2 minues | Dec 05 00:50 |
vZS1 | I'm in bed with my Roman history books now | Dec 05 00:50 |
schestowitz | index.html 100% 52KB 2.1KB/s 00:25 | Dec 05 00:51 |
schestowitz | txt 100% 30KB 2.4KB/s 00:12 | Dec 05 00:51 |
vZS1 | Will check the computers in the morning | Dec 05 00:51 |
schestowitz | after a year the files would be megabytes in size | Dec 05 00:51 |
vZS1 | They're so repetitive that they'll compress down a lot | Dec 05 00:52 |
schestowitz | gzip over http? | Dec 05 00:52 |
vZS1 | xz is better | Dec 05 00:52 |
vZS1 | Better ratios | Dec 05 00:52 |
schestowitz | less widely supported | Dec 05 00:52 |
vZS1 | Not really | Dec 05 00:52 |
schestowitz | and fb is pushing its own now | Dec 05 00:52 |
vZS1 | That's a myth | Dec 05 00:52 |
schestowitz | shithub-hosted iirc | Dec 05 00:53 |
vZS1 | Even 7zip on Windows supports xz ootb | Dec 05 00:53 |
schestowitz | actually, I'm sure | Dec 05 00:53 |
vZS1 | zstd is faster but worse ratios than xz | Dec 05 00:54 |
vZS1 | xz is still the best ratio-wise | Dec 05 00:54 |
vZS1 | Which is what's important for archiving | Dec 05 00:54 |
vZS1 | And so what if it's less supported. I'm not going to avoid using technology which is better because of luddites | Dec 05 00:58 |
vZS1 | Assuming it's less supported (which it isn't) | Dec 05 00:58 |
vZS1 | That's just like the usability trap | Dec 05 00:59 |
vZS1 | Concern trolling | Dec 05 00:59 |
schestowitz | Re: International Day Against DRM, Friday December 4th, 2020 | Dec 05 01:25 |
schestowitz | > Here's one more: | Dec 05 01:25 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 05 01:25 |
schestowitz | > International Day Against DRM, Friday December 4th, 2020 | Dec 05 01:25 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 05 01:25 |
schestowitz | > https://www.april.org/en/international-day-against-drm-friday-december-4th-2020 | Dec 05 01:25 |
schestowitz | Did anyone notice any visible action? | Dec 05 01:25 |
schestowitz | I saw none | Dec 05 01:25 |
schestowitz | just a late blog post from FSF/DBD | Dec 05 01:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.april.org | International Day Against DRM, Friday December 4th, 2020 | April | Dec 05 01:25 | |
schestowitz | > Regardless of what expectations I do or do not have, the latest article | Dec 05 01:25 |
schestowitz | > (about SFC) convinces me that today was just as good a day as any would be. | Dec 05 01:26 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 05 01:26 |
schestowitz | > Time is not getting longer, for this movement. There is a perpetual | Dec 05 01:26 |
schestowitz | > tsunami of bullshit, and people will face it either with buckets or with | Dec 05 01:26 |
schestowitz | > complete surrender. | Dec 05 01:26 |
schestowitz | The timing of your article was apt. | Dec 05 01:26 |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: 2,712 dead so far | Dec 05 01:30 |
schestowitz | more than 9/11 | Dec 05 01:30 |
schestowitz | depending on who you count | Dec 05 01:31 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Hopefully, John will be one of them. | Dec 05 01:35 |
vZS1 | Some little birds brought me the message | Dec 05 01:35 |
vZS1 | Seems like people are getting very fed up with DRM | Dec 05 01:35 |
schestowitz | oh, wow | Dec 05 01:37 |
schestowitz | for the first time in 4 years | Dec 05 01:37 |
schestowitz | twitter ACTUALLY sent me my archive | Dec 05 01:37 |
schestowitz | of tweets | Dec 05 01:37 |
schestowitz | So I can bring http://schestowitz.com/tweets/ up to date | Dec 05 01:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Your Twitter archive | Dec 05 01:37 | |
vZS1 | The web browser monopolies will come crumbling down, if they're too aggressive with their DRM | Dec 05 01:37 |
schestowitz | wonder how bloated that page would then be | Dec 05 01:37 |
vZS1 | So when are you leaving Twitter | Dec 05 01:40 |
vZS1 | Balkanisation is bad for health | Dec 05 01:41 |
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schestowitz | [01:40] <vZS1> So when are you leaving Twitter | Dec 05 06:16 |
schestowitz | Dec 15 | Dec 05 06:16 |
schestowitz | when they block non-JS access | Dec 05 06:16 |
schestowitz | Twitter will still have importer to it copies from Diaspora | Dec 05 06:17 |
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schestowitz | Ariadne: http://pleroma.fr/ "503 Service Unavailable" and pleroma.site the same, I assume nobody you know online knows or heard about href's situation or decision | Dec 05 07:00 |
schestowitz | would be nice to be able to contact him myself, maybe he can pass the domain to someone who can bring it back online and maintain/run it | Dec 05 07:01 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ http://pleroma.fr/ ) | Dec 05 07:01 | |
schestowitz | and I'm willing to have a go at it | Dec 05 07:01 |
schestowitz | I have like a quarter million posts there | Dec 05 07:01 |
schestowitz | the whole thing shows how precarious those things are, even for self-hosting there are limitations in this context | Dec 05 07:02 |
schestowitz | If someone here has some spare time, consider going through 1) https://archive.org/search.php?query=mediatype%3Amovies%20AND%20collection%3Adigitaltippingpoint%20AND%20subject%3A%22Friedman%2C%20Nat%22 and 2) https://archive.org/search.php?query=mediatype%3Amovies%20AND%20collection%3Adigitaltippingpoint%20AND%20subject%3A%22Peters%2C%20Stormy%22 | Dec 05 07:04 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.org | Internet Archive Search: mediatype:movies AND subject:"Friedman, Nat" | Dec 05 07:04 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.org | Internet Archive Search: mediatype:movies AND subject:"Peters, Stormy" | Dec 05 07:04 | |
schestowitz | Pick quotes of theirs about Microsoft | Dec 05 07:05 |
schestowitz | it can be interesting and revealing | Dec 05 07:05 |
schestowitz | Friedman was a Microsoft intern before his 'interest' in "OSS" | Dec 05 07:05 |
schestowitz | and Peters was working for Microsoft people for well over a decade | Dec 05 07:05 |
schestowitz | we need to explain their Microsoft affinity is nothing like a "change of heart" | Dec 05 07:05 |
schestowitz | Examining those videos is a big job but doable, we need pointers, can then rip the relevant bits with some context | Dec 05 07:06 |
Ariadne | why do tech companies make stupid songs about their companies | Dec 05 08:05 |
schestowitz | who just did it again? | Dec 05 08:07 |
Ariadne | oh, the latest example i found was one that kaspersky lab did in 2011 | Dec 05 08:12 |
schestowitz | they became really bad | Dec 05 08:14 |
schestowitz | I mean, geeks never respected them much | Dec 05 08:14 |
schestowitz | as they were Windows-focused | Dec 05 08:14 |
schestowitz | now they actively spread FUD | Dec 05 08:14 |
Ariadne | antivirus software is ineffective against modern malware anyway | Dec 05 08:15 |
schestowitz | Ariadne: a long time ago I came to a conclusion | Dec 05 08:15 |
schestowitz | as RMS fought for 35 years | Dec 05 08:15 |
schestowitz | and as we deal with monsters with endless budgets | Dec 05 08:15 |
schestowitz | the songs and astroturfing should be expected | Dec 05 08:15 |
schestowitz | and losing cool over their PR nonsense can only do harm | Dec 05 08:15 |
schestowitz | better to ignore those things and keep repeating the facts | Dec 05 08:16 |
schestowitz | like in the case of IBM | Dec 05 08:16 |
schestowitz | they will try to paint as "racist" people who still use git "master" branch | Dec 05 08:16 |
schestowitz | they create problems that don't really exist | Dec 05 08:16 |
schestowitz | to then be seen as "woke" solution makers | Dec 05 08:16 |
schestowitz | the best way to rebut is to highlight their own hypocrisy | Dec 05 08:16 |
schestowitz | and then they panic a little | Dec 05 08:16 |
schestowitz | in the case of songs, | Dec 05 08:16 |
schestowitz | like Kaspersky, | Dec 05 08:16 |
schestowitz | mention stuff like their connection to the Russian state | Dec 05 08:17 |
schestowitz | the the Mafia/oligarchy it's connected to | Dec 05 08:17 |
Ariadne | well, kaspersky has done some interesting research on NSA malware | Dec 05 08:17 |
schestowitz | the song is a distraction (never even see/heard it) | Dec 05 08:17 |
schestowitz | iow, we need to choose our battles carefully | Dec 05 08:18 |
schestowitz | selective in what's strategically important | Dec 05 08:18 |
Ariadne | as far as endpoint security software for windows goes, hitmanpro alert is really interesting | Dec 05 08:18 |
schestowitz | [07:43] <schestowitz> x https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9014825/Bill-Gates-warns-five-months-pretty-grim-COVID.html | Dec 05 08:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Bill Gates warns the next five months will be 'pretty grim' for US for COVID | Daily Mail Online | Dec 05 08:18 | |
schestowitz | [07:43] <schestowitz> # bill sez | Dec 05 08:18 |
schestowitz | [07:43] <schestowitz> = | Dec 05 08:18 |
schestowitz | [07:43] <schestowitz> x https://www.today.com/video/bill-gates-it-looks-like-almost-all-the-vaccines-are-going-to-succeed-97041477839 | Dec 05 08:18 |
Ariadne | it introduces some grsecurity-like features | Dec 05 08:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.today.com | Bill Gates: ‘It looks like almost all the vaccines are going to succeed’ | Dec 05 08:18 | |
schestowitz | [07:43] <schestowitz> # bill sez | Dec 05 08:18 |
schestowitz | [07:43] <schestowitz> = | Dec 05 08:18 |
schestowitz | [07:43] <schestowitz> x https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/03/bill-gates-just-released-a-plan-for-us-leadership-on-climate-change-including-35b-in-funding/ | Dec 05 08:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bill Gates just released a plan for US leadership on climate change, including $35B in funding – TechCrunch | Dec 05 08:18 | |
schestowitz | [07:43] <schestowitz> # wtf?? | Dec 05 08:19 |
schestowitz | no point writing rebuttals to this junk, paid-for marketing | Dec 05 08:19 |
schestowitz | as it would merely give more visibility to the astroturf | Dec 05 08:19 |
schestowitz | grsecurity seems aggressive | Dec 05 08:19 |
schestowitz | I get threatened or get very nasty messages from them | Dec 05 08:19 |
schestowitz | each time I mention them or their SLAPP | Dec 05 08:19 |
schestowitz | I assume it's from Brat/Brett | Dec 05 08:19 |
schestowitz | *Brad | Dec 05 08:19 |
Ariadne | i'm talking strictly about the software | Dec 05 08:19 |
schestowitz | Freudian slip | Dec 05 08:19 |
Ariadne | brad is of course an ass | Dec 05 08:20 |
Ariadne | alpine used to be one of the biggest supporters of grsecurity | Dec 05 08:20 |
Ariadne | so did debian | Dec 05 08:20 |
Ariadne | he basically told us to fuck off | Dec 05 08:20 |
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schestowitz | tbh, I don't know their staff or stuff | Dec 05 08:20 |
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schestowitz | at a technical level | Dec 05 08:20 |
Ariadne | because he got mad that some company was using grsecurity in their product | Dec 05 08:20 |
schestowitz | do you know their code? Does Linus know? | Dec 05 08:20 |
schestowitz | I mean, does he actually bother reading more than a LOC here and there? | Dec 05 08:21 |
schestowitz | c code isn't always pretty | Dec 05 08:21 |
Ariadne | on a technical level, grsecurity had PaX (which basically ran Linux under a quasi-hypervisor) | Dec 05 08:21 |
Ariadne | and various features to observe process behavior | Dec 05 08:21 |
Ariadne | and processes doing dodgy shit it would automatically kill | Dec 05 08:21 |
schestowitz | sounds like what we now have by default in some distros for RAM contraints | Dec 05 08:22 |
schestowitz | and of course systemd had to do it its own way | Dec 05 08:22 |
schestowitz | because systemd knows better than the kernel, as always | Dec 05 08:22 |
Ariadne | yeah but in case of grsecurity it is about stopping rootkits | Dec 05 08:22 |
schestowitz | oom | Dec 05 08:22 |
schestowitz | and "d" | Dec 05 08:22 |
Ariadne | the kernel oom killer sucks | Dec 05 08:23 |
schestowitz | like, how often do you even have rootkits? | Dec 05 08:23 |
Ariadne | alpine is planning on introducing a userspace virtual memory manager | Dec 05 08:23 |
Ariadne | well | Dec 05 08:23 |
Ariadne | back in the day | Dec 05 08:23 |
Ariadne | a lot of indymedia sites | Dec 05 08:23 |
Ariadne | were powered by alpine + grsec | Dec 05 08:23 |
Ariadne | and various intelligence agencies did try to fuck with them (: | Dec 05 08:23 |
schestowitz | to spy? | Dec 05 08:23 |
schestowitz | or more? | Dec 05 08:24 |
Ariadne | to gain unauthorized access | Dec 05 08:24 |
schestowitz | for what purposes? do we know? | Dec 05 08:24 |
schestowitz | I a curious | Dec 05 08:24 |
Ariadne | probably to put a rootkit on the machine | Dec 05 08:24 |
Ariadne | :P | Dec 05 08:24 |
schestowitz | as I think British cops had a run on us several times for over a decade | Dec 05 08:24 |
schestowitz | Ariadne: to study the people who run the site and what they say? | Dec 05 08:25 |
Ariadne | yes, basically | Dec 05 08:25 |
schestowitz | sometimes they test people | Dec 05 08:25 |
Ariadne | harvest IPs etc | Dec 05 08:25 |
schestowitz | like sting ops | Dec 05 08:25 |
Ariadne | i wish alpine still had a good relationship with grsecurity | Dec 05 08:25 |
Ariadne | because techrights would benefit | Dec 05 08:25 |
schestowitz | to paint people as extreme, then shut down the operations | Dec 05 08:25 |
schestowitz | grsecurity hates me also | Dec 05 08:25 |
Ariadne | but brad decided to be a dick | Dec 05 08:25 |
Ariadne | so whatevs | Dec 05 08:25 |
schestowitz | so that's two things they hate, at two levels | Dec 05 08:25 |
Ariadne | and mainline kernel is catching up anyway | Dec 05 08:26 |
schestowitz | btw, to harvest addresses of visitors they have better means | Dec 05 08:26 |
schestowitz | JS, ISP, etc. | Dec 05 08:26 |
schestowitz | even DNS lookups | Dec 05 08:26 |
schestowitz | ipfs makes it just a 'bit' harder | Dec 05 08:27 |
schestowitz | I have a big article coming today about SFC | Dec 05 08:27 |
schestowitz | based on specialised knowledge from somebody | Dec 05 08:27 |
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Ariadne | well theres other reasons to put a rootkit on an activism site's server | Dec 05 08:27 |
schestowitz | lots of EPO internal docs to publish this week as well (several dozens) | Dec 05 08:28 |
Ariadne | more data is always better than less to those people | Dec 05 08:28 |
schestowitz | [08:27] <Ariadne> well theres other reasons to put a rootkit on an activism site's server | Dec 05 08:28 |
schestowitz | better motivations I know of are: | Dec 05 08:28 |
schestowitz | creating conflicts among members | Dec 05 08:28 |
schestowitz | by studying how they communicate | Dec 05 08:29 |
Ariadne | correct | Dec 05 08:29 |
schestowitz | then create rift, make the group scuttle | Dec 05 08:29 |
schestowitz | I learned a lot from watching Wikileaks | Dec 05 08:29 |
schestowitz | FBI even put a mole in their IRC server | Dec 05 08:29 |
Ariadne | in the case of indymedia, the obama administration mostly caused it to disband | Dec 05 08:29 |
schestowitz | to truck over the logs and stuff | Dec 05 08:29 |
Ariadne | because people stopped caring | Dec 05 08:29 |
Ariadne | oh, bush is out, problem solved!!! | Dec 05 08:30 |
schestowitz | now Trump | Dec 05 08:30 |
schestowitz | and soon we'll all take vaccines coz Bush W does :-) | Dec 05 08:30 |
Ariadne | yeah but social media was the replacement | Dec 05 08:30 |
schestowitz | Trusted Brands(TM) | Dec 05 08:30 |
Ariadne | i'm not fucking with that mRNA vaccine | Dec 05 08:30 |
schestowitz | as if people who reject gov vaccine programs like Obama and Bush | Dec 05 08:30 |
schestowitz | [08:18] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- www.today.com | Bill Gates: ‘It looks like almost all the vaccines are going to succeed’ | Dec 05 08:30 |
schestowitz | Man who put investment stakes in all vaccines | Dec 05 08:31 |
schestowitz | with repeated arrests | Dec 05 08:31 |
schestowitz | oligarchs | Dec 05 08:31 |
schestowitz | what an endorsement | Dec 05 08:31 |
schestowitz | more of a way of making people NOT want to roll up their sleeve | Dec 05 08:31 |
Ariadne | i already have an overactive immune system that causes fibromyalgia | Dec 05 08:31 |
Ariadne | with my luck, i'd wind up with lupus | Dec 05 08:31 |
Ariadne | no thanks i'm good | Dec 05 08:31 |
schestowitz | back to Bush and Obama | Dec 05 08:31 |
schestowitz | the oligarchy controls the gov. | Dec 05 08:32 |
Ariadne | i'll wait for a non-mRNA vaccine | Dec 05 08:32 |
schestowitz | under Trump it was the same | Dec 05 08:32 |
schestowitz | the party in power matters more to public appearances | Dec 05 08:32 |
schestowitz | they always crush those who are a "thorn on the side" | Dec 05 08:32 |
schestowitz | thankfully we don't take on military etc. | Dec 05 08:32 |
schestowitz | but some tech companies are army extensions | Dec 05 08:32 |
schestowitz | mind you, Ariadne | Dec 05 08:33 |
schestowitz | watch out for any future attempts to cause conflicts between us | Dec 05 08:33 |
schestowitz | esp. if it's a second-hand "account" | Dec 05 08:33 |
Ariadne | i make my own decisions based on actual facts | Dec 05 08:33 |
schestowitz | This was attempted before, a sort of divide-and-rule strategy | Dec 05 08:33 |
schestowitz | one example goes only months back | Dec 05 08:34 |
schestowitz | also attempts to dissuade contributors/guest authors | Dec 05 08:34 |
schestowitz | or whistleblowers | Dec 05 08:34 |
schestowitz | (if they know who those are) | Dec 05 08:34 |
Ariadne | i mean, bluntly | Dec 05 08:34 |
Ariadne | you're entitled to your own opinions | Dec 05 08:34 |
schestowitz | my opinions are not too controversial | Dec 05 08:35 |
schestowitz | not as some people's | Dec 05 08:35 |
schestowitz | but I was thinking 2 hours ago | Dec 05 08:35 |
schestowitz | a determined person | Dec 05 08:35 |
Ariadne | the only thing that would piss me off is if i went to techrights.org and saw white power shit | Dec 05 08:35 |
schestowitz | could go through 12 years of IRC logs | Dec 05 08:35 |
Ariadne | or anti-LGBT shit | Dec 05 08:35 |
schestowitz | that's 24/7, for over 12 years | Dec 05 08:35 |
schestowitz | and then cherry-pick things I typed that can sound "sexist" or "Racist" | Dec 05 08:35 |
schestowitz | then put that in some site like "geekFeminism" | Dec 05 08:36 |
schestowitz | to make people look away or call for a boycott | Dec 05 08:36 |
Ariadne | well i've been "cancelled" a few times by idiots | Dec 05 08:36 |
schestowitz | there used to be several sites calling for a boycott of ours | Dec 05 08:36 |
schestowitz | inc. domains named to that effect | Dec 05 08:36 |
Ariadne | so i know better than to take anything i read on the internet at face value | Dec 05 08:36 |
schestowitz | that was before the term "cancel culture" existed | Dec 05 08:36 |
schestowitz | Oliva said the same | Dec 05 08:37 |
schestowitz | that he had been cancelled | Dec 05 08:37 |
schestowitz | without even realising it | Dec 05 08:37 |
schestowitz | now we have better vocabulary to explain those things | Dec 05 08:37 |
schestowitz | many gaslighting and bullying victims don't realise it until years or decades later | Dec 05 08:37 |
schestowitz | mjg59 is here now | Dec 05 08:37 |
schestowitz | I very much doubt he's here for the "lols" | Dec 05 08:37 |
Ariadne | in my case, thosepeople harassed me because i demonstrated they were sold a pile of crap with mastodon (: | Dec 05 08:39 |
Ariadne | i guess it is convenient to shoot the messenger rather than demand somebody do competent work | Dec 05 08:40 |
schestowitz | be forewarned | Dec 05 08:40 |
schestowitz | skulduggery will be attempted | Dec 05 08:40 |
schestowitz | Ariadne: http://schestowitz.com/2020/12/05/ | Dec 05 08:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Dec 05 08:40 | |
schestowitz | this is more like the stallman.org political notes | Dec 05 08:41 |
schestowitz | he separated these from gnu and fsf | Dec 05 08:41 |
schestowitz | nobody can take them offline but himself | Dec 05 08:41 |
Ariadne | stallman, again, is right on many issues, does not mean i agree 100% with him on everything | Dec 05 08:41 |
schestowitz | right | Dec 05 08:41 |
schestowitz | nobody | Dec 05 08:42 |
schestowitz | 100% | Dec 05 08:42 |
schestowitz | that's OK | Dec 05 08:42 |
Ariadne | i doubt i agree 100% with anyone on anything | Dec 05 08:42 |
schestowitz | 100% means we FORCE people to ALIGN with our views | Dec 05 08:42 |
schestowitz | Twitter is a zone that encourages this | Dec 05 08:42 |
Ariadne | anyway, i work for a company which produces an enterprise version of alpine for servers and telecom gear | Dec 05 08:43 |
Ariadne | so i expect the intelligence agencies of the world to fuck with me regardless | Dec 05 08:43 |
schestowitz | companies are full of differing views | Dec 05 08:43 |
Ariadne | because that's a high value target | Dec 05 08:43 |
schestowitz | but they have limitations | Dec 05 08:43 |
Ariadne | i hold signing keys for an OS running on infrastructure | Dec 05 08:43 |
schestowitz | because of blowback | Dec 05 08:43 |
schestowitz | with wikileaks they did the "sexist" type smear | Dec 05 08:44 |
schestowitz | even prior to Sweden | Dec 05 08:44 |
schestowitz | they did the same to Bernie | Dec 05 08:44 |
schestowitz | "bros" | Dec 05 08:44 |
schestowitz | and on Corbyn they kept Red Scare and "antisemitism" | Dec 05 08:45 |
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Ariadne | its pretty wild to think about how i have a solar panel which gathers light, charges a battery and then uses that battery to send signals back to space for internet access | Dec 05 08:46 |
Ariadne | (all monitored by an alpine raspberry pi system) | Dec 05 08:46 |
schestowitz | I think you live in a remote area | Dec 05 08:46 |
schestowitz | with goats and stuff | Dec 05 08:46 |
Ariadne | i do | Dec 05 08:46 |
schestowitz | wish I could do that | Dec 05 08:46 |
schestowitz | covid make remote living more popular | Dec 05 08:47 |
schestowitz | there's an UNDERsupply of such houses now | Dec 05 08:47 |
schestowitz | so their value sky-rocketed | Dec 05 08:47 |
Ariadne | yeah i got in pre-covid | Dec 05 08:47 |
Ariadne | $80k for 51.87 acres | Dec 05 08:47 |
Ariadne | :) | Dec 05 08:47 |
schestowitz | business/retail and city living "properties" plummeted | Dec 05 08:47 |
schestowitz | so many jobs are "remote" now | Dec 05 08:48 |
schestowitz | so people want more space at home | Dec 05 08:48 |
schestowitz | around the home, inside the home | Dec 05 08:48 |
schestowitz | also distance from other peopole | Dec 05 08:48 |
Ariadne | well, people are the worst | Dec 05 08:48 |
schestowitz | people who uses to have an apartment to "just sleep in" | Dec 05 08:48 |
Ariadne | i've been doing a lot of sleeping in this year | Dec 05 08:49 |
schestowitz | I means | Dec 05 08:49 |
schestowitz | I meant | Dec 05 08:49 |
schestowitz | not "'sleep in" | Dec 05 08:49 |
schestowitz | rather, to sleep inside the home | Dec 05 08:49 |
Ariadne | this year has been unexciting | Dec 05 08:49 |
schestowitz | people like stallman who said there's no point paying rent to just sleep in a place | Dec 05 08:49 |
schestowitz | ended up sleeping in his officer | Dec 05 08:49 |
schestowitz | officer | Dec 05 08:49 |
schestowitz | to save time/money | Dec 05 08:50 |
Ariadne | this year has mostly been sleeping and watching movies on bluray and dvd media | Dec 05 08:50 |
schestowitz | When i worked at the university, on site, until 2007, it was like there | Dec 05 08:50 |
schestowitz | go home, eat sleep, go back to the office | Dec 05 08:50 |
schestowitz | so you pay rent for a place to eat/sleep | Dec 05 08:50 |
Ariadne | streaming services are a no-go for me | Dec 05 08:50 |
schestowitz | disservices | Dec 05 08:51 |
schestowitz | right now we use peertube | Dec 05 08:51 |
Ariadne | not because of DRM (i don't care, as i would be consuming that media on an appliance anyway) | Dec 05 08:51 |
schestowitz | the one of blender | Dec 05 08:51 |
schestowitz | lots of nice blender clips, p2p | Dec 05 08:51 |
Ariadne | but because of the fact that i havea quota'd connection | Dec 05 08:51 |
Ariadne | after 75GB of transfer, my connection is 'deprioritized' | Dec 05 08:52 |
schestowitz | we once went to a farm house with a connection like that | Dec 05 08:52 |
schestowitz | over satellite | Dec 05 08:52 |
Ariadne | which means it can be as low as 3mbps down during the day | Dec 05 08:52 |
schestowitz | very slow connection, makes you think how you use the Net and what in it | Dec 05 08:52 |
schestowitz | lots of DVDs there, hundreds | Dec 05 08:52 |
Ariadne | and DRM is defeated in the end usually | Dec 05 08:52 |
Ariadne | see also: DeCSS | Dec 05 08:52 |
Ariadne | and the bluray one | Dec 05 08:53 |
schestowitz | 75gb is how much our raspi alone does with ipfs | Dec 05 08:53 |
Ariadne | and, hell, widevine (: | Dec 05 08:53 |
Ariadne | yeah | Dec 05 08:53 |
Ariadne | we also have a verizon lte connection | Dec 05 08:53 |
schestowitz | which microsoft defends | Dec 05 08:53 |
schestowitz | it derails projects that circumvent it | Dec 05 08:53 |
Ariadne | i try to loadbalance | Dec 05 08:53 |
schestowitz | the media did not cover that | Dec 05 08:53 |
Ariadne | in fairness, that github project had the widevine master key embedded in it | Dec 05 08:53 |
schestowitz | so? digg.com did too | Dec 05 08:54 |
Ariadne | which is technically illegal | Dec 05 08:54 |
schestowitz | for the sony drm stuff | Dec 05 08:54 |
schestowitz | and people reposted it a lot | Dec 05 08:54 |
schestowitz | if your system depends for 'protection' on some string being a "secret", maybe it deserves to be broken | Dec 05 08:54 |
schestowitz | like the 'DRM' youtube-dl tackled | Dec 05 08:54 |
Ariadne | in the widevine client i am working on, you have to download the key elsewhere | Dec 05 08:54 |
schestowitz | basically go to url, get plain text second url | Dec 05 08:54 |
Ariadne | that gets around the DMCA problem | Dec 05 08:54 |
schestowitz | that's not even DRM | Dec 05 08:55 |
Ariadne | if the RIAA thought that was bullshit | Dec 05 08:55 |
Ariadne | wait untilthey find out about deezer | Dec 05 08:55 |
schestowitz | CFAA needs to be abolished too | Dec 05 08:55 |
Ariadne | there is a software, smloadr | Dec 05 08:55 |
Ariadne | which lets you download FLACs | Dec 05 08:55 |
Ariadne | from deezer | Dec 05 08:55 |
Ariadne | for $0 | Dec 05 08:55 |
Ariadne | :D | Dec 05 08:55 |
Ariadne | i think in that case, they would have some legitimate complaints | Dec 05 08:56 |
Ariadne | deezer should not be allowing that | Dec 05 08:56 |
Ariadne | its a bug in their website, but they don't care to fix it | Dec 05 08:56 |
Ariadne | i know a lot of musicians | Dec 05 08:57 |
oiaohm | Ariadne: widevine we have seen DCMA again Widevine-L3-Decryptor | Dec 05 08:57 |
oiaohm | again/against | Dec 05 08:57 |
Ariadne | oiaohm: yes, which had the master key embedded in it | Dec 05 08:57 |
oiaohm | Digital rights management turns into a game of wack a mole in most cases with the poor consumer basically being the mole. | Dec 05 08:58 |
Ariadne | i agree | Dec 05 08:58 |
Ariadne | anyway, i know a lot of musicians, which have told me | Dec 05 08:58 |
Ariadne | they would rather people torrent their music instead of use spotify | Dec 05 08:58 |
Ariadne | because spotify pays them literally pennies per month | Dec 05 08:58 |
schestowitz | they are powerless | Dec 05 08:58 |
Ariadne | so its not worth it to them | Dec 05 08:58 |
schestowitz | most are | Dec 05 08:58 |
schestowitz | some are deluded into thinking they are in control | Dec 05 08:59 |
schestowitz | but the channels of distribution are monopolies | Dec 05 08:59 |
schestowitz | you can get canceled within one hour for a controversial political statement | Dec 05 08:59 |
Ariadne | one cool thing about covid is | Dec 05 08:59 |
schestowitz | and few artists got their own label, even Michael Jackson was "property" of Sony | Dec 05 08:59 |
schestowitz | after Motown | Dec 05 08:59 |
Ariadne | there's been a lot of concert videos go up on youtube for free | Dec 05 08:59 |
schestowitz | same for football | Dec 05 09:00 |
oiaohm | Not all channels of distributions are monopolies. Just the well known ones are | Dec 05 09:00 |
schestowitz | no spectators | Dec 05 09:00 |
Ariadne | not that i like youtube | Dec 05 09:00 |
schestowitz | so to get interest in sport they make clips available online | Dec 05 09:00 |
Ariadne | i dislike google services | Dec 05 09:00 |
schestowitz | 'services' | Dec 05 09:00 |
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schestowitz | "If you're inactive in one or more of these services for two years (24 months), Google may delete the content in the product(s) in which you're inactive. " https://www.blog.google/products/photos/storage-policy-update | Dec 05 09:00 |
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Ariadne | however | Dec 05 09:01 |
Ariadne | youtube-dl is pretty great | Dec 05 09:01 |
oiaohm | That has a lot of uses outside youtube. | Dec 05 09:01 |
Ariadne | data use between midnight and 9am is not counted against quota | Dec 05 09:01 |
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Ariadne | so i queue stuff up :) | Dec 05 09:01 |
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oiaohm | There are a lot of training videos from different educational sites I have to use with work I have got with youtube-dl. | Dec 05 09:02 |
oiaohm | That good when network connection is not exactly good. | Dec 05 09:02 |
Ariadne | right now on viasat, i am pulling down 70mbps | Dec 05 09:03 |
Ariadne | with 300ms latency | Dec 05 09:03 |
Ariadne | and as more of their LEO satellites come online | Dec 05 09:05 |
Ariadne | it should be down to about 100ms latency | Dec 05 09:05 |
Ariadne | which will be amazing | Dec 05 09:05 |
oiaohm | Worst I have had on sat was a 1.5 second latency. | Dec 05 09:06 |
oiaohm | and that suxed. | Dec 05 09:06 |
Ariadne | the viasat gateway also has transparent cache for http websites | Dec 05 09:06 |
Ariadne | which does heavy prefetching | Dec 05 09:06 |
Ariadne | unfortunately, https does not benefit from that obviously | Dec 05 09:07 |
Ariadne | since that would require MITMing all connections | Dec 05 09:07 |
schestowitz | [09:03] <Ariadne> with 300ms latency | Dec 05 09:27 |
schestowitz | that might be OK | Dec 05 09:27 |
schestowitz | depends how you use the Net | Dec 05 09:27 |
schestowitz | or the Web | Dec 05 09:27 |
schestowitz | I think I'd be OK with it | Dec 05 09:27 |
schestowitz | for big downloads you can ssh to some other node somewhere, then download by proxy to it | Dec 05 09:28 |
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Ariadne | nini | Dec 05 09:36 |
schestowitz | I am downloading my twitter archive at the momenr | Dec 05 09:37 |
schestowitz | 1.7 gb and going | Dec 05 09:37 |
schestowitz | it's so awfully slow | Dec 05 09:38 |
schestowitz | it comes from a server ton.twitter.com | Dec 05 09:38 |
schestowitz | never saw this address before | Dec 05 09:38 |
schestowitz | I think the archive is like a 2GB zip file | Dec 05 09:38 |
schestowitz | just for the text | Dec 05 09:38 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DMCANews/status/1335130137868652544 | Dec 05 09:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DMCANews: Awesome!!!! Just awesome! https://t.co/mMEZTJmMBM | Dec 05 09:39 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://techrights.org/2020/12/04/sfc-not-about-freedom/ ) | Dec 05 09:39 | |
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schestowitz | https://screenrant.com/twitter-legacy-nintendo-3ds-shut-down-date-december-2020/ | Dec 05 15:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-screenrant.com | Legacy Twitter Shutdown Means You Can’t Tweet From The 3DS Anymore | Dec 05 15:16 | |
psydroid | and you can't do that anymore because the software on the 3DS is not freedom respecting and because Twitter is about social control rather than enabling people to communicate | Dec 05 15:26 |
psydroid | nothing has been lost and it's better to move on | Dec 05 15:26 |
MinceR | (audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/13/ffbfd752515dd587.mp4 | Dec 05 15:27 |
XRevan86 | Another one of those. | Dec 05 15:28 |
schestowitz | yay | Dec 05 15:30 |
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smnthermes | > [05:25:41] schestowitz: grsecurity hates me also | Dec 05 15:54 |
smnthermes | You mean this? https://nitter.snopyta.org/grsecurity/status/1043940928719851521#m | Dec 05 15:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.snopyta.org | grsecurity (@grsecurity): "I'm sure you'll be able to cite any source where we demanded Linus put our code in Linux. Of course you won't be able to, because it's a complete fabrication that fits whatever narrative you're going for." | nitter | Dec 05 15:54 | |
MinceR | grsecurity probably hates everyone who doesn't buy into microshit's snake oil | Dec 05 15:56 |
smnthermes | https://nitter.net/spendergrsec/status/1293155014815420418#m | Dec 05 15:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Brad Spengler (@spendergrsec): "Why don't you inform your readers you're quoting anonymous troll and self-professed pedophile Mikeeusa who has resurfaced again with another anonymous remailer address to post what you quoted? This is the same person who claimed the GPL could be rescinded" | nitter | Dec 05 15:57 | |
smnthermes | https://nitter.net/spendergrsec/status/1293155787859206146#m | Dec 05 15:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Brad Spengler (@spendergrsec): "Importantly, neither the FSF nor the SFC, nor in fact any actual lawyer agrees with this bizarre claim from an anonymous troll. More info about the source of the claim can be found here: https://grsecurity.net/setting_the_record_straight_on_oss_v_perens_part1 Thanks for doing your part, "Dr" to continue the troll's harrassment" | nitter | Dec 05 15:57 | |
smnthermes | Mikeeusa is cancer though | Dec 05 16:00 |
MinceR | so's grsecurity | Dec 05 16:02 |
schestowitz | smnthermes: yes, that | Dec 05 16:07 |
schestowitz | but... | Dec 05 16:07 |
schestowitz | they have another issue | Dec 05 16:07 |
schestowitz | Brat [sic] in particular | Dec 05 16:07 |
schestowitz | they pretend all their critics are just Mikeeusa | Dec 05 16:07 |
schestowitz | who is indeed highly toxic | Dec 05 16:07 |
schestowitz | but Torvalds never based his criticism on anything Mikeeusa | Dec 05 16:07 |
schestowitz | and I don't think Perens did, either | Dec 05 16:08 |
schestowitz | anyway, I stay away from Brat | Dec 05 16:08 |
schestowitz | Brat is really rude and unpleasant online | Dec 05 16:08 |
schestowitz | only polite compared to Mikeeusa | Dec 05 16:08 |
MinceR | https://files.catbox.moe/r9pt0s.jpg | Dec 05 16:13 |
oiaohm | Darn that a good goof sign placement | Dec 05 16:56 |
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*Now talking on #techrights | Dec 05 17:25 | |
*Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Dec 05 17:25 | |
*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Dec 05 17:25 | |
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vZS1 | schestowitz: doing work on the Pi? | Dec 05 17:48 |
schestowitz | No, connection was reset | Dec 05 17:50 |
schestowitz | so ip rotated | Dec 05 17:50 |
schestowitz | I don't have the tools for work on the pi | Dec 05 17:50 |
schestowitz | zoobab is into soldering | Dec 05 17:51 |
schestowitz | I think one of my friends have has the gear | Dec 05 17:51 |
schestowitz | but need to check | Dec 05 17:51 |
schestowitz | he's vulnerable group | Dec 05 17:51 |
schestowitz | I need to put some HATs | Dec 05 17:51 |
schestowitz | for monitoring the sites | Dec 05 17:51 |
schestowitz | LEDs and buttons | Dec 05 17:51 |
vZS1 | Ah | Dec 05 18:28 |
vZS1 | Mine doesn't have anything on it apart from a plastic case | Dec 05 18:28 |
schestowitz | A friend sent it to me | Dec 05 18:39 |
schestowitz | there are no manuals | Dec 05 18:39 |
schestowitz | I will need to find some online | Dec 05 18:39 |
schestowitz | then get the scripts installed to use the HATs | Dec 05 18:39 |
schestowitz | I have not even assembled the enclosure yet | Dec 05 18:39 |
schestowitz | as it would defeat the purpose when I reopen it | Dec 05 18:39 |
schestowitz | maybe a xmas project | Dec 05 18:39 |
vZS1 | I just have an enclosure because I use it as a headless server | Dec 05 19:16 |
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DaemonFC[m] | "People saw an unstable individual mixing misogynistic comments with nonsensical legal theories." | Dec 05 20:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | Ladies and Gentlemen, the President for another 47 days, of the United States! :) | Dec 05 20:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitzMinceR At least with the Coronavirus we have the first fascist movement that's marching itself to the gas chambers. | Dec 05 20:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | The world does seem to have a perverse sense of humor sometimes. | Dec 05 20:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | Picking off fascists and random ignorant people more than the population at large. | Dec 05 20:10 |
schestowitz | him DaemonFC[m] | Dec 05 20:15 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: the US had gas chambers too | Dec 05 20:16 |
schestowitz | https://www.britannica.com/topic/gas-chamber | Dec 05 20:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gas chamber | execution device | Britannica | Dec 05 20:16 | |
DaemonFC[m] | For prisoners sentenced to death. | Dec 05 20:16 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: can you read with me latest article? | Dec 05 20:16 |
schestowitz | it's ready for final read | Dec 05 20:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Dec 05 20:16 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/12/05/journalist-campinos/ | Dec 05 20:17 |
schestowitz | 5 secs ago | Dec 05 20:17 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Mister António Campinos ‘Joins’ IAM ‘Media’ and IAM ‘Magazine’ (Symptom of Dying Media) | Techrights | Dec 05 20:17 | |
DaemonFC[m] | Not random people marched in to die by the millions. | Dec 05 20:17 |
schestowitz | not yet | Dec 05 20:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | We're pretty much talking about the worst criminals convicted by a court, and then again, unanimously by a different jury to get the death sentence. | Dec 05 20:17 |
schestowitz | when there's hyperinflation and hunger | Dec 05 20:18 |
schestowitz | and a lost war | Dec 05 20:18 |
schestowitz | then you check your 'assets' | Dec 05 20:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: If I ended up on such a sentencing jury I would consider what to do, very carefully. | Dec 05 20:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | Leaning against imposing it, but not decided either way off the bat. | Dec 05 20:19 |
schestowitz | we already saw nutty jidges and politicians | Dec 05 20:19 |
schestowitz | more so under Trump | Dec 05 20:19 |
schestowitz | like Barr | Dec 05 20:19 |
schestowitz | as AG | Dec 05 20:19 |
schestowitz | loyalty to party fuhrer/liiiieder! | Dec 05 20:19 |
schestowitz | lieben? nicht!! | Dec 05 20:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | Bill Barr will be gone soon. | Dec 05 20:20 |
DaemonFC[m] | Dad's coming more unglued by the minute. | Dec 05 20:20 |
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DaemonFC[m] | As it sinks in that Trump has really lost, he's parroting those lawyers that were so crazy that Trump himself dismissed them. | Dec 05 20:20 |
schestowitz | lol | Dec 05 20:20 |
schestowitz | maybe the hair comes off next | Dec 05 20:21 |
schestowitz | with the dye | Dec 05 20:21 |
schestowitz | the pclinixos magazine of last week parroted some of it | Dec 05 20:21 |
schestowitz | it's composed by bible belt people | Dec 05 20:21 |
schestowitz | texstar is from around there | Dec 05 20:21 |
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DaemonFC[m] | That lawyer with the youtube channel that I watch theorized that Giuliani dyes what's left of his hair due to Neurolinguistics theory. | Dec 05 20:21 |
schestowitz | biggest trump fans those folks... | Dec 05 20:21 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Part of that theory is that if a person looks and sounds kind of like you then you put more weight into what they say. | Dec 05 20:22 |
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DaemonFC[m] | So he says, "In a way it's just good client management.". | Dec 05 20:22 |
schestowitz | lol | Dec 05 20:22 |
schestowitz | anyway | Dec 05 20:22 |
schestowitz | about my article | Dec 05 20:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | The longer Giuliani runs the meter without being fired, the more days he gets paid $20 k. | Dec 05 20:22 |
schestowitz | can you read through quickly? | Dec 05 20:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | Oh, yeah. BRB | Dec 05 20:23 |
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DaemonFC[m] | "many year" | Dec 05 20:23 |
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DaemonFC[m] | years | Dec 05 20:23 |
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DaemonFC[m] | "I physically met journalists, who in turn" | Dec 05 20:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | I've physically met journalists who, in turn, | Dec 05 20:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | "for discussion Mr. Campinos." | Dec 05 20:25 |
schestowitz | yeah | Dec 05 20:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | for discussing | Dec 05 20:25 |
schestowitz | oops | Dec 05 20:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | or "for discussion of". | Dec 05 20:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | "I saw it all," | Dec 05 20:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | I've seen it all. (with a period, not comma) | Dec 05 20:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | "It’s really ugly, it is utterly disgusting, and it is patently corrupt." | Dec 05 20:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | I'd say just use "it's" throughout. | Dec 05 20:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | "Even wonder why there’s media blackout about EPO scandals?" | Dec 05 20:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | Ever | Dec 05 20:28 |
schestowitz | yeah | Dec 05 20:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | "Those aren’t coincidences, it’s all planned and those people know one another and have phonebooks." | Dec 05 20:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's not coincidence. It's all planned, and those people know each other and have phone books. | Dec 05 20:29 |
schestowitz | done | Dec 05 20:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | "told me ysterday" | Dec 05 20:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | yesterday | Dec 05 20:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | "The should be a list" | Dec 05 20:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | I know, direct quote.... | Dec 05 20:31 |
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DaemonFC[m] | "Fraudlinger" | Dec 05 20:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | What a name. | Dec 05 20:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | Like fraud that lingers. | Dec 05 20:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | "of the sorts of abuses" | Dec 05 20:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | sort of abuses | Dec 05 20:33 |
schestowitz | correcting | Dec 05 20:34 |
schestowitz | I found so many typos, wow | Dec 05 20:34 |
schestowitz | maybe I need coffee (to be fair, this was done in one fast pass) | Dec 05 20:34 |
schestowitz | the fish look like they're hungry, bbiab, getting coffee also | Dec 05 20:35 |
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schestowitz | looks like the matrix gateway broke | Dec 05 21:05 |
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schestowitz | https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/12/03/facebook-hate-speech/ | Dec 05 21:09 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Facebook is overhauling its hate speech algorithms - The Washington Post | Dec 05 21:10 | |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: I lost you here | Dec 05 21:17 |
schestowitz | matric issues, I think | Dec 05 21:17 |
schestowitz | Last I saw was: [20:33] <DaemonFC[m]> sort of abuses | Dec 05 21:17 |
schestowitz | *matrix issues | Dec 05 21:17 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Oh great. | Dec 05 21:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | Uh, you called him Campinis at one point. | Dec 05 21:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | Did you fix that? | Dec 05 21:45 |
schestowitz | yes | Dec 05 21:46 |
schestowitz | no idea how that happened | Dec 05 21:46 |
schestowitz | maybe finger slipped | Dec 05 21:46 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/12/05/antonio-sneakers/ | Dec 05 21:46 |
schestowitz | Europe | Dec 05 21:46 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] ‘Nice’ and ‘Cool’ António Campinos, Now With Extra Sneakers | Techrights | Dec 05 21:46 | |
schestowitz | where you put on "casual" | Dec 05 21:46 |
schestowitz | and then you're "nice" | Dec 05 21:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | I think that everything went through. | Dec 05 21:48 |
schestowitz | irc-wise? | Dec 05 21:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | I have considered just breaking off IRC from Matrix and going back to using Konversation or HexChat for IRC. | Dec 05 21:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | Too many weird bridge issues sometimes. | Dec 05 21:49 |
schestowitz | Happy weekend from President Trump. Another 2,000 American dead. | Dec 05 21:49 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: what's the upper hand of matrix anyway? | Dec 05 21:49 |
schestowitz | except being "new"? | Dec 05 21:49 |
schestowitz | I saw Slack | Dec 05 21:49 |
schestowitz | utter rubbish | Dec 05 21:49 |
schestowitz | bloated and no real features | Dec 05 21:50 |
schestowitz | like IRC 1989+bloat | Dec 05 21:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | Aesthetic Animes can't be previewed. Do you want to join it?" Yes. "This room has been blocked from this homeserver due to abuse of the Code of Conduct.". | Dec 05 21:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | God damn these people. | Dec 05 21:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | Of course when I told Matrix to list rooms the other day there's one about bestiality with hundreds of people in it. | Dec 05 21:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | And that's okay apparently. | Dec 05 21:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | Not strictly speaking "illegal" to talk about I guess, but under the laws of most states you can be charged for "distributing" anything, so what they're doing in there is probably going beyond speech, I would imagine. | Dec 05 21:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | Then again who knows? Might just be furries. They're weird. | Dec 05 21:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Well, the protocol and the web app are open source with Matrix, but not terribly well designed. | Dec 05 21:53 |
schestowitz | maybe they met your ex date | Dec 05 21:53 |
schestowitz | who "likes dogs" | Dec 05 21:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | End to end encryption on Matrix chats, though. I guess that's good. | Dec 05 21:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I ended that one very quickly. | Dec 05 21:54 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/control-but-no-accountability/ | Dec 05 21:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | High-Level Criminals Associate Privacy With Crime Because They Want Privacy Only for Themselves (Control But No Accountability) | Techrights | Dec 05 21:54 | |
schestowitz | says the guy whose engineer was arrested in his mansion | Dec 05 21:54 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: That's the thing about people, pre-internet even. | Dec 05 21:54 |
schestowitz | for rape of children pr0n | Dec 05 21:54 |
DaemonFC[m] | You don't know who you're meeting. | Dec 05 21:54 |
schestowitz | anal rape of kids aged around 10 iirc | Dec 05 21:54 |
DaemonFC[m] | People were hosting those sorts of chats on AOL in the 1990s. | Dec 05 21:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | Even though AOL required your credit card and home address and knew where you were dialing in from. | Dec 05 21:55 |
schestowitz | this one might continues to haunt them http://techrights.org/2020/08/21/zoophilia-gates-estate/ | Dec 05 21:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | So easy for police raids. | Dec 05 21:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Melinda and Zoophilia Found in Tandem in the Illegal Pornographic ‘Stash’ of Bill Gates’ Engineer | Techrights | Dec 05 21:55 | |
schestowitz | but bill is busy saving the world now... or something | Dec 05 21:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | But AOL pretty much turned a blind eye from what I've read. | Dec 05 21:55 |
schestowitz | whoa 1,936 deaths now | Dec 05 21:56 |
schestowitz | leaped from 1700 minutes ago | Dec 05 21:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: My aunt, the one who died in the car accident in 2013, was compulsively on AOL, even when they were billing by the hour. | Dec 05 21:56 |
schestowitz | texas is a very red state now | Dec 05 21:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | It was pretty tragic because she met a dentist on a dating room. | Dec 05 21:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | Seemed to be going okay. | Dec 05 21:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | Started eating better and exercising, and then found out it was just some asshole who wanted to cheat on his wife. | Dec 05 21:57 |
schestowitz | i heard stories of liars | Dec 05 21:57 |
schestowitz | they get their way | Dec 05 21:57 |
schestowitz | by posing | Dec 05 21:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | I remember her talking about it in the mid 90s. She thought she found a nice guy. | Dec 05 21:57 |
schestowitz | good thing I didn't meet my wife "online" | Dec 05 21:57 |
schestowitz | many these days meet people on FB, Internet, through friends etc. | Dec 05 21:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | She said that he'd set up private rooms with passwords like molar. | Dec 05 21:58 |
schestowitz | and by the time they chat in person it's awful | Dec 05 21:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I met Mandy on Grindr of all places. | Dec 05 21:58 |
schestowitz | eww | Dec 05 21:58 |
schestowitz | that connotates with "let's have gay sex" | Dec 05 21:58 |
schestowitz | Not sure about what Tinder is associated with | Dec 05 21:58 |
schestowitz | some sites associated with cheating | Dec 05 21:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | He said he had met a couple people on there and tried to start a relationship with them and there was this one by the name of Nico who met his sister once and then bolted. | Dec 05 21:59 |
schestowitz | and then with leaking members' names and details | Dec 05 21:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | I told him "Can't imagine why.....". | Dec 05 21:59 |
schestowitz | Good relationships don't start with "apps" | Dec 05 21:59 |
schestowitz | I never had "apps" | Dec 05 21:59 |
schestowitz | 235 covid deaths in IL | Dec 05 22:00 |
schestowitz | wow, you are becoming the new NYS | Dec 05 22:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, basically. | Dec 05 22:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | Mandy threw a fit this morning because I said we weren't going to the mall. | Dec 05 22:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | They shouldn't even be open at this point. | Dec 05 22:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | I told him we need to minimize going out to him at work and me doing the shopping until there's an effective vaccine. | Dec 05 22:03 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19603633 | Dec 05 22:03 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So far in December about 12,000 American #covid19 deaths... and it hasn't even been 5 days yet! | Dec 05 22:03 | |
DaemonFC[m] | This is not calming down. | Dec 05 22:04 |
schestowitz | nope | Dec 05 22:04 |
schestowitz | ramping up | Dec 05 22:04 |
schestowitz | until strict lockdown and circuit-breaking | Dec 05 22:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | It is, in fact, getting ready to calm up. (Teal'c SG-1) (For MinceR) | Dec 05 22:04 |
schestowitz | how many hospitals are over capacity now? | Dec 05 22:04 |
schestowitz | I reckon most | Dec 05 22:04 |
schestowitz | so don't even break a leg or get the flu | Dec 05 22:05 |
schestowitz | you don't have your back covered by medical professionals | Dec 05 22:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | They say, the CDC even, that US hospitals are weeks from collapse. | Dec 05 22:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | Meanwhile, malls open and Trump's "maximum pressure" to reopen schools. | Dec 05 22:05 |
schestowitz | the gym opened here days ago | Dec 05 22:05 |
schestowitz | it's so quiet it's scary | Dec 05 22:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | He can still do an incredible amount of further damage in his 47 remaining days as mom and dad's president. | Dec 05 22:05 |
schestowitz | a lot of the appliances weren't even turned on | Dec 05 22:06 |
schestowitz | I had to ask staff 3 times before they found the right switches | Dec 05 22:06 |
schestowitz | the gym wrote today to offer 12 days free for a friend | Dec 05 22:06 |
schestowitz | they need new members | Dec 05 22:06 |
schestowitz | 46 days IIRC | Dec 05 22:06 |
schestowitz | not 47 | Dec 05 22:06 |
schestowitz | oh, wait | Dec 05 22:07 |
schestowitz | depends | Dec 05 22:07 |
schestowitz | whose day is the 20th? | Dec 05 22:07 |
schestowitz | half and half? | Dec 05 22:07 |
MinceR | :> | Dec 05 22:07 |
schestowitz | when you touch the bibbe babble? | Dec 05 22:07 |
MinceR | >half and half | Dec 05 22:07 |
MinceR | "Chicken isn't vegan?" | Dec 05 22:08 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: tell him their psychopath duterte agrees with uou | Dec 05 22:08 |
schestowitz | all you have now is, | Dec 05 22:08 |
schestowitz | wash hands, keep distance, wear mask | Dec 05 22:08 |
schestowitz | no vaccine fantasies yet | Dec 05 22:08 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: the lack of people at the gym leads to neglect | Dec 05 22:13 |
schestowitz | my friend yannis got electrocuted on Wednesday | Dec 05 22:13 |
schestowitz | I heard the loud bang in the bathroom | Dec 05 22:13 |
schestowitz | I told him it's probably the fuse blowing | Dec 05 22:13 |
schestowitz | hair dryer | Dec 05 22:13 |
schestowitz | he had to visit a physician at corona times | Dec 05 22:14 |
schestowitz | had a massive purple mask on his stomach | Dec 05 22:14 |
schestowitz | and that ALONE is why they FInaLLY changed that appliance | Dec 05 22:14 |
schestowitz | after 3 months sitting there with "DO NOT USE" sign | Dec 05 22:14 |
schestowitz | which he did not notice | Dec 05 22:14 |
schestowitz | so it was a disaster waiting to happen | Dec 05 22:14 |
schestowitz | health ans safety regulations flouted | Dec 05 22:14 |
schestowitz | coz 'pandemic' | Dec 05 22:15 |
schestowitz | he could have died if he held it hear his head | Dec 05 22:15 |
schestowitz | That's the unspoken creepy side of it... lethal neglect | Dec 05 22:16 |
schestowitz | I've told them for MONTHS to replace iot | Dec 05 22:16 |
schestowitz | but they did nothing until risking a big lawsuit | Dec 05 22:16 |
schestowitz | if you go to a shopping mall | Dec 05 22:17 |
schestowitz | tell mandy structural decay can be a risk also | Dec 05 22:17 |
schestowitz | it's just not a priority, loose maintenance | Dec 05 22:17 |
schestowitz | planes are poorly maintained too | Dec 05 22:19 |
schestowitz | quite a few crashes this year | Dec 05 22:19 |
schestowitz | not all made the news | Dec 05 22:19 |
schestowitz | planes not used for a long time being put in service | Dec 05 22:19 |
schestowitz | with parts of them in unknown condition | Dec 05 22:19 |
schestowitz | and "cooled down" | Dec 05 22:19 |
schestowitz | yannis was stupid for picking up that appliance | Dec 05 22:19 |
schestowitz | but still, it really ought NOT have been there in the first place; I kept warning them it was a disaster in the making | Dec 05 22:20 |
schestowitz | but there's nobody to talk to, lack of coordination among what's left of the staff | Dec 05 22:20 |
schestowitz | they don't even know which switches to turn on | Dec 05 22:20 |
smnthermes | > [18:51:05] DaemonFC[m]: Aesthetic Animes can't be previewed. Do you want to join it?" Yes. "This room has been blocked from this homeserver due to abuse of the Code of Conduct.". | Dec 05 22:22 |
smnthermes | Matrix blocked it? | Dec 05 22:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | On January 20th at noon, Biden takes over and can immediately start signing hundreds of executive orders they already have printed up. | Dec 05 22:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | smnthermes: Yes, that's the third Matrix dot org room that I've seen them block this month for "abusive conduct", and I haven't seen anyone explain any abusive conduct. | Dec 05 22:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | But they let hardcore illegal pornography rooms stay running apparently. | Dec 05 22:24 |
schestowitz | Code of Conduct is a toxic term now | Dec 05 22:24 |
schestowitz | because it got associated with corporate interests | Dec 05 22:24 |
schestowitz | rather than actual safety | Dec 05 22:24 |
schestowitz | or actual objective merits | Dec 05 22:24 |
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DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I keep seeing the Microsoft media encouraging people to get around the stated terms of Microsoft's EULA. | Dec 05 22:31 |
schestowitz | examples? | Dec 05 22:32 |
schestowitz | Phoronix is doing Microsoft Vista 10 coverage now https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-5900X-Zen-3-Spectre-Windows | Dec 05 22:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Quick Look At The Spectre Mitigation State For AMD Zen 3 On Windows 10 - Phoronix | Dec 05 22:33 | |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-download-windows-10-for-free-now-that-windows-7-is-dead/ | Dec 05 22:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Windows 10 free download: How to get the upgrade now - CNET | Dec 05 22:34 | |
schestowitz | lol | Dec 05 22:34 |
schestowitz | a.k.a. download.com | Dec 05 22:34 |
schestowitz | 'freeware' | Dec 05 22:34 |
schestowitz | that's cbs | Dec 05 22:34 |
schestowitz | same as zdnet | Dec 05 22:34 |
schestowitz | same company, same writers | Dec 05 22:34 |
schestowitz | they're Microsoft PR front now | Dec 05 22:35 |
schestowitz | 174,127 new cases and 2,036 new deaths in the United States | Dec 05 22:35 |
schestowitz | trump had covid "for only 20 seconds" :-) | Dec 05 22:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.zdnet.com/article/this-free-windows-10-upgrade-offer-still-works-heres-why-and-how-to-get-it/ | Dec 05 22:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This free Windows 10 upgrade offer still works. Here's why -- and how to get it | ZDNet | Dec 05 22:35 | |
schestowitz | Illinois 235 | Dec 05 22:35 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: Microsoft marketing disguised as news | Dec 05 22:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | So Microsoft said the free update program ended and then quietly brought it back, because the alternative was lots of old unsupported systems being "pressed back into service" using a supported Linux distribution. | Dec 05 22:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yet, Bott mentions that some systems hit a 'compatibility block' and recommends looking for BIOS updates. | Dec 05 22:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's likely that Linux would just go ahead and install and work fine on those systems too. | Dec 05 22:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Fedora is considering dropping support for legacy BIOS entirely soon. | Dec 05 22:38 |
schestowitz | Fedora is f'ed | Dec 05 22:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | It seems that they're looking for a clean break so they can ditch GRUB 2 at some point and move to "systemd-boot". | Dec 05 22:38 |
schestowitz | for many reasons | Dec 05 22:38 |
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schestowitz | an IBM 'Slurpee' for IBM POWER* meal | Dec 05 22:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | The GPL in the boot path is being taken out and shot because it imposes some awkwardness with getting Microsoft to bless their "secure boot" implementation. | Dec 05 22:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | They mention the "Boot Hole" bug causing Microsoft to eventually do a signature revocation that could stop Fedora systems that are using GRUB from booting completely at sometime soon, and they recommend if this happens, turn Secure Boot off and turn it on after Fedora "fixes it" later. | Dec 05 22:40 |
schestowitz | AdBot called opponents of uefi 'secure boot' "fanatics" | Dec 05 22:40 |
schestowitz | Microsoft AsBought | Dec 05 22:41 |
schestowitz | *Microsoft AdBought | Dec 05 22:41 |
schestowitz | zdnet totally quit pretending | Dec 05 22:41 |
schestowitz | they're ads | Dec 05 22:41 |
schestowitz | also for LF | Dec 05 22:41 |
schestowitz | which I think pays for it | Dec 05 22:41 |
schestowitz | LF pays many sites now | Dec 05 22:41 |
schestowitz | for puff pieces/ads | Dec 05 22:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: It seems you can get end of life security patches for 3 years from Canonical for free on LTS versions, if you're a home user. | Dec 05 22:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | So that basically means you can continue using it for 8 years without worrying too much that it will become so insecure that you're in danger just from using it as it is. | Dec 05 22:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | They seem to be very quietly extending their support roadmap to more or less match RHEL. | Dec 05 22:43 |
schestowitz | that would be oK | Dec 05 22:50 |
schestowitz | but using their stuff seems like lock-in now with snaps and all | Dec 05 22:50 |
schestowitz | and they're not Debian | Dec 05 22:50 |
schestowitz | they're a for-profit company | Dec 05 22:50 |
schestowitz | and too friendly towards proprietary and clown | Dec 05 22:50 |
MinceR | (no audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/12/84a829d9c5654867.mp4 | Dec 05 22:50 |
schestowitz | MinceR maaagic | Dec 05 22:56 |
schestowitz | sleigh of hands | Dec 05 22:56 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19603839 | Dec 05 22:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Seems like number of US #covid19 cases will pass 15 million today, with about 13,000 dead so far this month (5 days). #trump lied, people died. | Dec 05 22:58 | |
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DaemonFC[m] | I don't really care about the for profit part. | Dec 05 23:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | As long as they don't get in my way. | Dec 05 23:08 |
schestowitz | unless Microsoft buys it | Dec 05 23:08 |
schestowitz | or something similar | Dec 05 23:08 |
schestowitz | until then you don't care | Dec 05 23:08 |
schestowitz | but things can happen that make you care | Dec 05 23:08 |
schestowitz | e.g. if you put all your projects and code on VC-funded GitHub | Dec 05 23:08 |
schestowitz | which loses money | Dec 05 23:08 |
schestowitz | and looks for a way to turn that around | Dec 05 23:09 |
psydroid | <schestowitz "DaemonFC: Microsoft marketing di"> Windows is a collection of APIs disguised as an operating system | Dec 05 23:18 |
psydroid | and the operating systems parts are far from the state of the art, so it would be better to run it in a VM and let a real operating system handle the hardware, if you need it at all | Dec 05 23:20 |
psydroid | system* | Dec 05 23:20 |
schestowitz | WIN stands for WIN is Nothing | Dec 05 23:22 |
schestowitz | just some API | Dec 05 23:22 |
schestowitz | the company is named after what bill gates thought while in he toiley | Dec 05 23:23 |
schestowitz | *toilet | Dec 05 23:23 |
schestowitz | while staring at his groin | Dec 05 23:23 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: https://www.neystadt.org/john/humor/WinNT-Name.htm | Dec 05 23:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neystadt.org | The Origin of Windows NT Name | Dec 05 23:26 | |
schestowitz | does not matter, oiaohm | Dec 05 23:35 |
vZS1 | I haven't kept up with this in a while but can't you just replace the UEFI chip? | Dec 05 23:41 |
vZS1 | I've seen it being done before for BIOS | Dec 05 23:41 |
schestowitz | I think Intel embeds it quite hard in boards | Dec 05 23:42 |
schestowitz | they may no longer comes as disparate, discrete things with physical batteries and jumpers | Dec 05 23:42 |
vZS1 | Ah | Dec 05 23:42 |
schestowitz | and the batteries would be soldered in | Dec 05 23:42 |
schestowitz | like in so-called 'phones' | Dec 05 23:43 |
schestowitz | because only TERROR~1 would need privacy | Dec 05 23:43 |
vZS1 | Well. Someone should make a list of all the offending boards | Dec 05 23:43 |
schestowitz | and removing UEFI means "no security" | Dec 05 23:43 |
vZS1 | So we know which to avoid | Dec 05 23:43 |
schestowitz | like "wi-fi" without passwords is "DANGEROUS" | Dec 05 23:43 |
schestowitz | https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/dec/02/microsoft-apologises-productivity-score-critics-derided-workplace-surveillance | Dec 05 23:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Microsoft apologises for feature criticised as workplace surveillance | Technology | The Guardian | Dec 05 23:45 | |
vZS1 | This is a pretty high profile issue (UEFI keys) | Dec 05 23:45 |
vZS1 | Where's the media coverage | Dec 05 23:45 |
schestowitz | https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/03/technology/google-researcher-timnit-gebru.html | Dec 05 23:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Google Researcher Timnit Gebru Says She Was Fired For Paper on AI Bias - The New York Times | Dec 05 23:45 | |
MinceR | oh how blessed we are -- we got an apology from microshit | Dec 05 23:45 |
schestowitz | vZS1: the what coverage? | Dec 05 23:45 |
MinceR | we'd better treasure it because we aren't getting anything more | Dec 05 23:45 |
schestowitz | billgates-funed 'gaurdian' | Dec 05 23:46 |
schestowitz | grauniad | Dec 05 23:46 |
schestowitz | vZS1: what's a media? | Dec 05 23:47 |
schestowitz | usb? | Dec 05 23:47 |
schestowitz | oh, I see... 'the media' | Dec 05 23:47 |
schestowitz | this thing that wrote thousands of articles about trump maybe posting his password | Dec 05 23:47 |
schestowitz | but never covers legit security issues | Dec 05 23:47 |
schestowitz | just buy iphone | Dec 05 23:47 |
schestowitz | "iphone is privacy" | Dec 05 23:47 |
schestowitz | the ads say | Dec 05 23:47 |
schestowitz | and tim crooks pinky-promises | Dec 05 23:48 |
schestowitz | and somehow the FBI ALWAYS bypasses encryption on a dead terrorist's 'i' phone | Dec 05 23:49 |
schestowitz | but just 'barely' | Dec 05 23:49 |
schestowitz | so it's still secure, we promise!! | Dec 05 23:49 |
schestowitz | it's very perfectly secure | Dec 05 23:50 |
schestowitz | unless you are a terrorism | Dec 05 23:50 |
schestowitz | then it's a little "less secure" | Dec 05 23:50 |
schestowitz | just enough fro FBI | Dec 05 23:50 |
schestowitz | the encryption algo detects if you commits an act of terror | Dec 05 23:51 |
schestowitz | if not, it's fully functional | Dec 05 23:51 |
schestowitz | otherwise, integrity erodes | Dec 05 23:51 |
schestowitz | it's a very "Smart" slgo | Dec 05 23:51 |
schestowitz | algo | Dec 05 23:51 |
schestowitz | Quantum something clown | Dec 05 23:51 |
schestowitz | too hard to explain | Dec 05 23:51 |
schestowitz | ask quantum physicists | Dec 05 23:52 |
schestowitz | something about "THe cybER" | Dec 05 23:52 |
schestowitz | or the CIPHER | Dec 05 23:53 |
MinceR | https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cyber | Dec 05 23:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.urbandictionary.com | Urban Dictionary: cyber | Dec 05 23:54 | |
schestowitz | Check out the ELLIPTIC CURVE on that thing! | Dec 05 23:54 |
schestowitz | MinceR: now we have cyber monday | Dec 05 23:54 |
schestowitz | a bezos shopping 'holy-day' | Dec 05 23:55 |
schestowitz | pray for bezos, shop today, it's never too late | Dec 05 23:55 |
MinceR | :> | Dec 05 23:59 |
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