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DaemonFC[m]Seems the consensus is that it's basically unusable as a desktop system.Dec 05 00:00
MinceRwell, of course. it's got cancerd.Dec 05 00:00
DaemonFC[m]Everything is a "pain" and someone also said the package manager is "limited".Dec 05 00:00
DaemonFC[m]Doesn't seem like Intel is really putting a lot of effort in.Dec 05 00:00
schestowitz+2,555 new #covid19 deaths so far today in the USDec 05 00:01
DaemonFC[m]It looks like Ubuntu is backporting patches for memory leaks and performance issues into GNOME for the LTS from later versions.Dec 05 00:02
DaemonFC[m]Even if GNOME themselves isn't backporting them to the point releases.Dec 05 00:02
DaemonFC[m]Eh, Ubuntu is stuck with the version of GNOME longer than upstream supports it anyway.Dec 05 00:02
DaemonFC[m]I wonder how long until they just do what RHEL does and bring in new versions of GNOME to the LTS.Dec 05 00:02
DaemonFC[m]I don't see where the appeal for RHEL is these days. The whole pitch was that they were conservative to minimize breakage and regressions.Dec 05 00:03
schestowitzUbuntu might not even be focused on desktops anymoreDec 05 00:03
DaemonFC[m]They don't seem to be very conservative anymore.Dec 05 00:03
schestowitzseeing their "market strategy" is basically CLOWNDec 05 00:03
schestowitzMicrosoft et alDec 05 00:03
schestowitzsucking up to GAFAM Dec 05 00:04
DaemonFC[m]Well, in some ways their retreat has been for the best.Dec 05 00:04
schestowitzfor some "share" of computer time feesDec 05 00:04
DaemonFC[m]Unity was not great and Richard Stallman called it spyware.Dec 05 00:04
DaemonFC[m]Because of the keylogger in the lenses.Dec 05 00:04
schestowitzI asked him toDec 05 00:04
schestowitzso he didDec 05 00:04
schestowitzJono lost his marblesDec 05 00:04
schestowitzand the coup against RMS had been cooking even prior to thatDec 05 00:05
schestowitznotice jono is no longer in this channelDec 05 00:05
schestowitzmaybe moved on to SLACK of MICROSOFT TEAMS :-)Dec 05 00:05
DaemonFC[m]I always separate my search and address bar and disable autocomplete searches in the address bar.Dec 05 00:05
schestowitzlet's see if he's on this network at allDec 05 00:05
DaemonFC[m]In the search bar, that's fine. In the address bar, it sends Google or Microsoft all of the stuff you type so they know where you're heading even if it's not a search.Dec 05 00:06
DaemonFC[m]So Firefox cloned it and called it an "awesomebar".Dec 05 00:06
DaemonFC[m]Like, really....?Dec 05 00:06
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I tried bringing in Seamonkey a while back.Dec 05 00:06
DaemonFC[m]It's rather sickly lately due to the Gecko platform changes.Dec 05 00:07
schestowitz:08] [Error] jono: No such nick/channel.Dec 05 00:08
schestowitz[00:08] [Whois] End of WHOIS list.Dec 05 00:08
schestowitz[00:08] [Raw] whois jonobaconDec 05 00:08
schestowitz[00:08] [Error] jonobacon: No such nick/channel.Dec 05 00:08
schestowitz[00:08] [Whois] End of WHOIS list.Dec 05 00:08
schestowitzoh, wait, I found himDec 05 00:09
DaemonFC[m]nomobacon?Dec 05 00:09
schestowitz[00:09] [Raw] whois loserDec 05 00:09
schestowitz[00:09] [Whois] loser is ~loser@149.28.253.253.chromeshome.net (ZNC - https://znc.in)Dec 05 00:09
schestowitz[00:09] [Whois] loser is online via verne.freenode.net (Amsterdam, NL, EU).Dec 05 00:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.znc.in | ZNCDec 05 00:09
schestowitz:-DDec 05 00:09
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/04/08/jono-bacon-works-for-microsoft/Dec 05 00:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Jono Bacon Works for Microsoft | TechrightsDec 05 00:10
schestowitzhe defected basicallyDec 05 00:10
schestowitzthen got endorsed by MicrosoftDec 05 00:10
schestowitzafter working for github and doing 'consulting' for MicrosoftDec 05 00:10
schestowitzwhich means taking a bribe, laundering that bribe as "advice from smart man"Dec 05 00:10
schestowitzvery smart... to be taking that moneyDec 05 00:10
DaemonFC[m]They must have been impressed by the metal free software song dot ogg.Dec 05 00:10
schestowitzso they buy themselves "community" creds on the cheapDec 05 00:11
schestowitzand his reputation is now gone, for that moneyDec 05 00:11
schestowitzhe used to do heaby metalDec 05 00:11
schestowitzeven free software song as metalDec 05 00:11
schestowitznot the only heavy metal he likes is dimes and quartersDec 05 00:11
schestowitzby the tonnesDec 05 00:12
schestowitzhe's not aloneDec 05 00:12
schestowitzstormy petersDec 05 00:12
schestowitzbut she sold out over a decade agoDec 05 00:12
schestowitzworked for some microsoft veteran at openlogicDec 05 00:12
schestowitzwho afaik no longer operate... they're invisibleDec 05 00:12
schestowitzbut at the end, like Jesus Das Caza, she "came home  to Jes... I mean, Microsoft"Dec 05 00:13
schestowitzcovid19 deaths: 241 today in texasDec 05 00:13
DaemonFC[m]He had been trying to get on at Microsoft since the 90s.Dec 05 00:13
schestowitzno wonder the troll courts there canceled all the hearing till MarchDec 05 00:13
schestowitzeven GIlstrap realised it's not  a "hoax"Dec 05 00:14
DaemonFC[m]Applied at their Internet Explorer team in like 1997 I think?Dec 05 00:14
schestowitzI bet he voted TrumpDec 05 00:14
schestowitzyes, he didDec 05 00:14
schestowitza year later started gnomeDec 05 00:14
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DaemonFC[m]They told him he couldn't get a visa so they couldn't hire him at that point.Dec 05 00:14
schestowitzgnu didn't heed the warningDec 05 00:14
schestowitzhe was a Microsoft loyalist all alongDec 05 00:14
schestowitzand was used like a moleDec 05 00:14
schestowitzrms called him "traitor" laterDec 05 00:14
schestowitzapparently Facebook is better at the 'visa mill'Dec 05 00:15
schestowitzto the point where there's a big lawsuit nowDec 05 00:15
schestowitzMicrosoft has done this for decadesDec 05 00:15
schestowitzGrasley blasted them for itDec 05 00:15
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Someone bought an HP Omen laptop from Walmart's Black Friday sale.Dec 05 00:15
schestowitzbut nothing ever came out of itDec 05 00:15
schestowitznow they don't hire, they use temps and contractorsDec 05 00:16
DaemonFC[m]Said that they couldn't even use it because the first thing it did were fetch failed updates and go into a boot loop.Dec 05 00:16
DaemonFC[m]I remembered hearing something from Microsoft about how if the updates failed it would quit trying to apply them, and that was years ago.Dec 05 00:16
DaemonFC[m]I guess they're back at it.Dec 05 00:17
DaemonFC[m]Alex St. John, the guy behind DirectX, was talking about what a disaster Windows Update had turned into with Windows 10.Dec 05 00:18
schestowitzWindows Update is TECHNCIALLY a botnetDec 05 00:18
schestowitzand botnets also imply you have no control over your machine and traffic in/outDec 05 00:18
DaemonFC[m]he said it rendered his laptop unusable and he had to borrow a client's macbook.Dec 05 00:18
DaemonFC[m]Which sounds very professional, doesn't it?Dec 05 00:18
schestowitzunless you unplug it Dec 05 00:18
schestowitzbut it'll resume the moment you replugDec 05 00:18
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft slipped in a P2P thing that uses your computer to send updates to others to keep their bandwidth costs down.Dec 05 00:19
DaemonFC[m]They use the bandwidth you're paying for instead.Dec 05 00:19
DaemonFC[m]How nice of them.Dec 05 00:19
DaemonFC[m]Even small Linux distributions that really do get by on $5 and $10 donations from people don't do things like that.Dec 05 00:20
schestowitzyeahDec 05 00:20
schestowitzand for the latest back doorsDec 05 00:20
schestowitzand further pillage of data, controlDec 05 00:21
schestowitzwindows should be classified accordinglyDec 05 00:21
DaemonFC[m]Here you have a trillion dollar company stealing your bandwidth that your ISP bills you for in "data packages" to serve updates.Dec 05 00:21
schestowitznice company..Dec 05 00:21
schestowitzmany people don't know this BTWDec 05 00:21
schestowitzthe so-called 'media' is not talking about itDec 05 00:21
schestowitzbut... "MICROSOFT LOVES LINUX"Dec 05 00:21
schestowitzVERY important... PR campaignDec 05 00:22
DaemonFC[m]Well, so many things Windows does are what you'd call malware if another program arrived on the computer and started ticking enough of those boxes.Dec 05 00:22
DaemonFC[m]In some cases, just one thing alone.Dec 05 00:22
DaemonFC[m]I'm not ready to call Firefox malware for anonymized usage data, although I turn it off.Dec 05 00:23
DaemonFC[m]But Windows doesn't anonymize it.Dec 05 00:23
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft says they'll never use it to contact you or to identify you unless they have to in order to comply with a law.Dec 05 00:23
DaemonFC[m]And there's where you should be very afraid.Dec 05 00:23
DaemonFC[m]So there's over a billion devices with Windows 10 that are dutifully reporting home on everything from embarrassments (Watching porn, cheating on their spouse, etc....) to crimes (illegal porn, income tax evasion) to invasions of privacy that aren't criminal but could get you on a list (reading certain publications, etc.).Dec 05 00:25
DaemonFC[m]And you're right, most users don't consider it until the cops are there hauling away their computer and slapping them in handcuffs.Dec 05 00:25
DaemonFC[m]Or they are at an airport one day and CBP hauls them in for some "questioning".Dec 05 00:26
DaemonFC[m]Or they start getting embarrassing ads popping up somewhere else, like Facebook, and they are alarmed but don't know where they're coming from.Dec 05 00:27
DaemonFC[m]If the government thinks you're committing a crime, they ought to have to do some real police work to catch you and prove it in court.Dec 05 00:28
DaemonFC[m]They don't and a lot of it is companies like GAFAM just giving them stuff they collected.Dec 05 00:28
DaemonFC[m]The whole point of the entire tech industry being in on it is that they get a lot of data about you if you use any of it, and a complete picture if you use a few things.Dec 05 00:29
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: There was an episode of The Orville where they reconstructed a holographic simulation of a woman based on an old cell phone they found.Dec 05 00:30
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DaemonFC[m]The computer was able to extrapolate a complete psychological profile about her from data from the phone and presumably archived records that went into the "cloud" at some point and nobody ever deleted because data storage just keeps getting easier so why bother.Dec 05 00:30
DaemonFC[m]The episode didn't even comment on the dystopian aspects of this.Dec 05 00:31
DaemonFC[m]The fact that devices and apps collect so much data that software can just predict what you will do. Then you get risk scores and they have their eyes on you without having to put in a lot of hours or anything.Dec 05 00:31
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DaemonFC[m]The NSA admitted that they pay special attention to people who they know use Tor.Dec 05 00:32
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DaemonFC[m]So it's basically getting people to admit they need privacy for some reason and then they become more interesting because they've called themselves out for extra attention.Dec 05 00:32
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DaemonFC[m]So, Tor is doing more harm than good by creating a Windows version.Dec 05 00:33
DaemonFC[m]They should drop the Windows version and say use Tails.Dec 05 00:33
MinceRyou mean headsDec 05 00:33
MinceRtails comes with an nsa backdoorDec 05 00:33
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schestowitzsystemd?Dec 05 00:36
schestowitzkdbus?Dec 05 00:36
MinceRsystemdDec 05 00:38
schestowitznsa looked into kdbusDec 05 00:42
schestowitzmaybe systemd alsoDec 05 00:42
schestowitzhttps://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=nsa-kdbus-credentialsDec 05 00:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The NSA Is Looking At Systemd's KDBUS - PhoronixDec 05 00:42
schestowitzhttp://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1507.1/01758.htmlDec 05 00:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.iu.edu | Linux-Kernel Archive: kdbus: credential fakingDec 05 00:42
schestowitzanyhow... systemd is in shithubDec 05 00:43
schestowitzwhich nsa controls though microsoftDec 05 00:43
schestowitzand for 'security' they now 'fix' your code for youDec 05 00:43
schestowitzfor securityDec 05 00:44
schestowitzthey say Dec 05 00:44
schestowitzmaybe also "national security"Dec 05 00:44
schestowitzMicrosoft loves Pentagon (grift)Dec 05 00:44
MinceRthe usa doesn't enforce antitrust law against microshit, and in exchange, microshit does everything they can to backdoor your computers for the usaDec 05 00:46
schestowitzyeahDec 05 00:46
schestowitzso the word goesDec 05 00:46
schestowitzscuttled in exchange for closer cooperationDec 05 00:46
schestowitzscuttling the antitrust verdictDec 05 00:47
schestowitzno split-upDec 05 00:47
schestowitzwith IBM it was contracting outwardsDec 05 00:47
schestowitzgiving software side, partly, to billDec 05 00:47
vZS1I think Gentoo offers a lot of choice for users. The docs are pretty good tooDec 05 00:47
schestowitzcoz bill's mom askedDec 05 00:47
vZS1They actually use bugzilla stillDec 05 00:47
schestowitzher failing son already had one bankrupt companyDec 05 00:47
schestowitzalmost a secondDec 05 00:47
schestowitzmom to the rescueDec 05 00:48
vZS1OpenRC as well. Instead of systemdDec 05 00:48
MinceRyeah, if i needed something built from source, i'd create a funtoo or gentoo stratumDec 05 00:48
vZS1I follow their RSS security feedDec 05 00:48
vZS1It's better than Debian'sDec 05 00:49
vZS1Gentoo have an RSS for their bugzilla tooDec 05 00:49
schestowitzvZS1: as you can see if you check, I freed up many GBs on the raspiDec 05 00:49
DaemonFC[m]We already set another record for new cases today.Dec 05 00:50
DaemonFC[m]Beat yesterday by over 2,000.Dec 05 00:50
vZS1schestowitz:  I'll have a look laterDec 05 00:50
schestowitzuploading new indexes nowDec 05 00:50
schestowitzthe process gets slowerDec 05 00:50
schestowitznow takes 2 minuesDec 05 00:50
vZS1I'm in bed with my Roman history books nowDec 05 00:50
schestowitzindex.html                                                                                                                                                           100%   52KB   2.1KB/s   00:25 Dec 05 00:51
schestowitztxt                                                                                                                                                                  100%   30KB   2.4KB/s   00:12   Dec 05 00:51
vZS1Will check the computers in the morningDec 05 00:51
schestowitzafter a year the files would be megabytes in sizeDec 05 00:51
vZS1They're so repetitive that they'll compress down a lotDec 05 00:52
schestowitzgzip over http?Dec 05 00:52
vZS1xz is betterDec 05 00:52
vZS1Better ratiosDec 05 00:52
schestowitzless widely supportedDec 05 00:52
vZS1Not reallyDec 05 00:52
schestowitzand fb is pushing its own nowDec 05 00:52
vZS1That's a mythDec 05 00:52
schestowitzshithub-hosted iircDec 05 00:53
vZS1Even 7zip on Windows supports xz ootbDec 05 00:53
schestowitzactually, I'm sureDec 05 00:53
vZS1zstd is faster but worse ratios than xzDec 05 00:54
vZS1xz is still the best ratio-wiseDec 05 00:54
vZS1Which is what's important for archivingDec 05 00:54
vZS1And so what if it's less supported. I'm not going to avoid using technology which is better because of ludditesDec 05 00:58
vZS1Assuming it's less supported (which it isn't)Dec 05 00:58
vZS1That's just like the usability trapDec 05 00:59
vZS1Concern trollingDec 05 00:59
schestowitzRe: International Day Against DRM, Friday December 4th, 2020Dec 05 01:25
schestowitz> Here's one more:Dec 05 01:25
schestowitz> Dec 05 01:25
schestowitz> International Day Against DRM, Friday December 4th, 2020Dec 05 01:25
schestowitz> Dec 05 01:25
schestowitz> https://www.april.org/en/international-day-against-drm-friday-december-4th-2020Dec 05 01:25
schestowitzDid anyone notice any visible action?Dec 05 01:25
schestowitzI saw noneDec 05 01:25
schestowitzjust a late blog post from FSF/DBDDec 05 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.april.org | International Day Against DRM, Friday December 4th, 2020 | AprilDec 05 01:25
schestowitz> Regardless of what expectations I do or do not have, the latest articleDec 05 01:25
schestowitz> (about SFC) convinces me that today was just as good a day as any would be.Dec 05 01:26
schestowitz> Dec 05 01:26
schestowitz> Time is not getting longer, for this movement. There is a perpetualDec 05 01:26
schestowitz> tsunami of bullshit, and people will face it either with buckets or withDec 05 01:26
schestowitz> complete surrender.Dec 05 01:26
schestowitzThe timing of your article was apt.Dec 05 01:26
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: 2,712 dead so farDec 05 01:30
schestowitzmore than 9/11Dec 05 01:30
schestowitzdepending on who you countDec 05 01:31
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DaemonFC[m]Hopefully, John will be one of them.Dec 05 01:35
vZS1Some little birds brought me the messageDec 05 01:35
vZS1Seems like people are getting very fed up with DRMDec 05 01:35
schestowitzoh, wowDec 05 01:37
schestowitzfor the first time in 4 yearsDec 05 01:37
schestowitztwitter ACTUALLY sent me my archiveDec 05 01:37
schestowitzof tweetsDec 05 01:37
schestowitzSo I can bring http://schestowitz.com/tweets/ up to dateDec 05 01:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Your Twitter archiveDec 05 01:37
vZS1The web browser monopolies will come crumbling down, if they're too aggressive with their DRMDec 05 01:37
schestowitzwonder how bloated that page would then beDec 05 01:37
vZS1So when are you leaving TwitterDec 05 01:40
vZS1Balkanisation is bad for healthDec 05 01:41
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schestowitz[01:40] <vZS1> So when are you leaving TwitterDec 05 06:16
schestowitzDec 15Dec 05 06:16
schestowitzwhen they block non-JS accessDec 05 06:16
schestowitzTwitter will still have importer to it copies from DiasporaDec 05 06:17
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schestowitzAriadne: http://pleroma.fr/ "503 Service Unavailable" and pleroma.site the same, I assume nobody you know online knows or heard about href's situation or decisionDec 05 07:00
schestowitzwould be nice to be able to contact him myself, maybe he can pass the domain to someone who can bring it back online and maintain/run itDec 05 07:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ http://pleroma.fr/ )Dec 05 07:01
schestowitzand I'm willing to have a go at itDec 05 07:01
schestowitzI have like a quarter million posts thereDec 05 07:01
schestowitzthe whole thing shows how precarious those things are, even for self-hosting there are limitations in this contextDec 05 07:02
schestowitzIf someone here has some spare time, consider going through 1) https://archive.org/search.php?query=mediatype%3Amovies%20AND%20collection%3Adigitaltippingpoint%20AND%20subject%3A%22Friedman%2C%20Nat%22 and 2) https://archive.org/search.php?query=mediatype%3Amovies%20AND%20collection%3Adigitaltippingpoint%20AND%20subject%3A%22Peters%2C%20Stormy%22Dec 05 07:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.org | Internet Archive Search: mediatype:movies AND subject:"Friedman, Nat"Dec 05 07:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.org | Internet Archive Search: mediatype:movies AND subject:"Peters, Stormy"Dec 05 07:04
schestowitzPick quotes of theirs about MicrosoftDec 05 07:05
schestowitzit can be interesting and revealingDec 05 07:05
schestowitzFriedman was a Microsoft intern before his 'interest' in "OSS"Dec 05 07:05
schestowitzand Peters was working for Microsoft people for well over a decade Dec 05 07:05
schestowitzwe need to explain their Microsoft affinity is nothing like a "change of heart"Dec 05 07:05
schestowitzExamining those videos is a big job but doable, we need pointers, can then rip the relevant bits with some contextDec 05 07:06
Ariadnewhy do tech companies make stupid songs about their companiesDec 05 08:05
schestowitzwho just did it again?Dec 05 08:07
Ariadneoh, the latest example i found was one that kaspersky lab did in 2011Dec 05 08:12
schestowitzthey became really badDec 05 08:14
schestowitzI mean, geeks never respected them muchDec 05 08:14
schestowitzas they were Windows-focusedDec 05 08:14
schestowitznow they actively spread FUDDec 05 08:14
Ariadneantivirus software is ineffective against modern malware anywayDec 05 08:15
schestowitzAriadne: a long time ago I came to a conclusionDec 05 08:15
schestowitzas RMS fought for 35 yearsDec 05 08:15
schestowitzand as we deal with monsters with endless budgetsDec 05 08:15
schestowitzthe songs and astroturfing should be expectedDec 05 08:15
schestowitzand losing cool over their PR nonsense can only do harmDec 05 08:15
schestowitzbetter to ignore those things and keep repeating the factsDec 05 08:16
schestowitzlike in the case of IBMDec 05 08:16
schestowitzthey will try to paint as "racist" people who still use git "master" branchDec 05 08:16
schestowitzthey create problems that don't really existDec 05 08:16
schestowitzto then be seen as "woke" solution makersDec 05 08:16
schestowitzthe best way to rebut is to highlight their own hypocrisyDec 05 08:16
schestowitzand then they panic a littleDec 05 08:16
schestowitzin the case of songs,Dec 05 08:16
schestowitzlike Kaspersky,Dec 05 08:16
schestowitzmention stuff like their connection to the Russian stateDec 05 08:17
schestowitzthe the Mafia/oligarchy it's connected toDec 05 08:17
Ariadnewell, kaspersky has done some interesting research on NSA malwareDec 05 08:17
schestowitzthe song is a distraction (never even see/heard it)Dec 05 08:17
schestowitziow, we need to choose our battles carefullyDec 05 08:18
schestowitzselective in what's strategically importantDec 05 08:18
Ariadneas far as endpoint security software for windows goes, hitmanpro alert is really interestingDec 05 08:18
schestowitz[07:43] <schestowitz> x https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9014825/Bill-Gates-warns-five-months-pretty-grim-COVID.htmlDec 05 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Bill Gates warns the next five months will be 'pretty grim' for US for COVID | Daily Mail OnlineDec 05 08:18
schestowitz[07:43] <schestowitz> # bill sezDec 05 08:18
schestowitz[07:43] <schestowitz> =Dec 05 08:18
schestowitz[07:43] <schestowitz> x https://www.today.com/video/bill-gates-it-looks-like-almost-all-the-vaccines-are-going-to-succeed-97041477839Dec 05 08:18
Ariadneit introduces some grsecurity-like featuresDec 05 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.today.com | Bill Gates: ‘It looks like almost all the vaccines are going to succeed’Dec 05 08:18
schestowitz[07:43] <schestowitz> # bill sezDec 05 08:18
schestowitz[07:43] <schestowitz> =Dec 05 08:18
schestowitz[07:43] <schestowitz> x https://techcrunch.com/2020/12/03/bill-gates-just-released-a-plan-for-us-leadership-on-climate-change-including-35b-in-funding/Dec 05 08:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bill Gates just released a plan for US leadership on climate change, including $35B in funding – TechCrunchDec 05 08:18
schestowitz[07:43] <schestowitz> # wtf??Dec 05 08:19
schestowitzno point writing rebuttals to this junk, paid-for marketingDec 05 08:19
schestowitzas it would merely give more visibility to the astroturfDec 05 08:19
schestowitzgrsecurity seems aggressiveDec 05 08:19
schestowitzI get threatened or get very nasty messages from themDec 05 08:19
schestowitzeach time I mention them or their SLAPPDec 05 08:19
schestowitzI assume it's from Brat/BrettDec 05 08:19
schestowitz*BradDec 05 08:19
Ariadnei'm talking strictly about the softwareDec 05 08:19
schestowitzFreudian slipDec 05 08:19
Ariadnebrad is of course an assDec 05 08:20
Ariadnealpine used to be one of the biggest supporters of grsecurityDec 05 08:20
Ariadneso did debianDec 05 08:20
Ariadnehe basically told us to fuck offDec 05 08:20
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schestowitztbh, I don't know their staff or stuffDec 05 08:20
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schestowitzat a technical levelDec 05 08:20
Ariadnebecause he got mad that some company was using grsecurity in their productDec 05 08:20
schestowitzdo you know their code? Does Linus know?Dec 05 08:20
schestowitzI mean, does he actually bother reading more than a LOC here and there?Dec 05 08:21
schestowitzc code isn't always prettyDec 05 08:21
Ariadneon a technical level, grsecurity had PaX (which basically ran Linux under a quasi-hypervisor)Dec 05 08:21
Ariadneand various features to observe process behaviorDec 05 08:21
Ariadneand processes doing dodgy shit it would automatically killDec 05 08:21
schestowitzsounds like what we now have by default in some distros for RAM contraintsDec 05 08:22
schestowitzand of course systemd had to do it its own wayDec 05 08:22
schestowitzbecause systemd knows better than the kernel, as alwaysDec 05 08:22
Ariadneyeah but in case of grsecurity it is about stopping rootkitsDec 05 08:22
schestowitzoomDec 05 08:22
schestowitzand "d"Dec 05 08:22
Ariadnethe kernel oom killer sucksDec 05 08:23
schestowitzlike, how often do you even have rootkits?Dec 05 08:23
Ariadnealpine is planning on introducing a userspace virtual memory managerDec 05 08:23
AriadnewellDec 05 08:23
Ariadneback in the dayDec 05 08:23
Ariadnea lot of indymedia sitesDec 05 08:23
Ariadnewere powered by alpine + grsecDec 05 08:23
Ariadneand various intelligence agencies did try to fuck with them (:Dec 05 08:23
schestowitzto spy?Dec 05 08:23
schestowitzor more?Dec 05 08:24
Ariadneto gain unauthorized accessDec 05 08:24
schestowitzfor what purposes? do we know?Dec 05 08:24
schestowitzI a curiousDec 05 08:24
Ariadneprobably to put a rootkit on the machineDec 05 08:24
Ariadne:PDec 05 08:24
schestowitzas I think British cops had a run on us several times for over a decadeDec 05 08:24
schestowitzAriadne: to study the people who run the site and what they say?Dec 05 08:25
Ariadneyes, basicallyDec 05 08:25
schestowitzsometimes they test peopleDec 05 08:25
Ariadneharvest IPs etcDec 05 08:25
schestowitzlike sting opsDec 05 08:25
Ariadnei wish alpine still had a good relationship with grsecurityDec 05 08:25
Ariadnebecause techrights would benefitDec 05 08:25
schestowitzto paint people as extreme, then shut down the operationsDec 05 08:25
schestowitzgrsecurity hates me alsoDec 05 08:25
Ariadnebut brad decided to be a dickDec 05 08:25
Ariadneso whatevsDec 05 08:25
schestowitzso that's two things they hate, at two levelsDec 05 08:25
Ariadneand mainline kernel is catching up anywayDec 05 08:26
schestowitzbtw, to harvest addresses of visitors they have better meansDec 05 08:26
schestowitzJS, ISP, etc.Dec 05 08:26
schestowitzeven DNS lookupsDec 05 08:26
schestowitzipfs makes it just a 'bit' harderDec 05 08:27
schestowitzI have a big article coming today about SFCDec 05 08:27
schestowitzbased on specialised knowledge from somebodyDec 05 08:27
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Ariadnewell theres other reasons to put a rootkit on an activism site's serverDec 05 08:27
schestowitzlots of EPO internal docs to publish this week as well (several dozens)Dec 05 08:28
Ariadnemore data is always better than less to those peopleDec 05 08:28
schestowitz[08:27] <Ariadne> well theres other reasons to put a rootkit on an activism site's serverDec 05 08:28
schestowitzbetter motivations I know of are:Dec 05 08:28
schestowitzcreating conflicts among membersDec 05 08:28
schestowitzby studying how they communicateDec 05 08:29
AriadnecorrectDec 05 08:29
schestowitzthen create rift, make the group scuttleDec 05 08:29
schestowitzI learned a lot from watching WikileaksDec 05 08:29
schestowitzFBI even put a mole in their IRC serverDec 05 08:29
Ariadnein the case of indymedia, the obama administration mostly caused it to disbandDec 05 08:29
schestowitzto truck over the logs and stuffDec 05 08:29
Ariadnebecause people stopped caringDec 05 08:29
Ariadneoh, bush is out, problem solved!!!Dec 05 08:30
schestowitznow TrumpDec 05 08:30
schestowitzand soon we'll all take vaccines coz Bush W does :-)Dec 05 08:30
Ariadneyeah but social media was the replacementDec 05 08:30
schestowitzTrusted Brands(TM)Dec 05 08:30
Ariadnei'm not fucking with that mRNA vaccineDec 05 08:30
schestowitzas if people who reject gov vaccine programs like Obama and BushDec 05 08:30
schestowitz[08:18] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- www.today.com | Bill Gates: ‘It looks like almost all the vaccines are going to succeed’Dec 05 08:30
schestowitzMan who put investment stakes in all vaccinesDec 05 08:31
schestowitzwith repeated arrestsDec 05 08:31
schestowitzoligarchsDec 05 08:31
schestowitzwhat an endorsementDec 05 08:31
schestowitzmore of a way of making people NOT want to roll up their sleeveDec 05 08:31
Ariadnei already have an overactive immune system that causes fibromyalgiaDec 05 08:31
Ariadnewith my luck, i'd wind up with lupusDec 05 08:31
Ariadneno thanks i'm goodDec 05 08:31
schestowitzback to Bush and ObamaDec 05 08:31
schestowitzthe oligarchy controls the gov.Dec 05 08:32
Ariadnei'll wait for a non-mRNA vaccineDec 05 08:32
schestowitzunder Trump it was the sameDec 05 08:32
schestowitzthe party in power matters more to public appearancesDec 05 08:32
schestowitzthey always crush those who are a "thorn on the side"Dec 05 08:32
schestowitzthankfully we don't take on military etc.Dec 05 08:32
schestowitzbut some tech companies are army extensionsDec 05 08:32
schestowitzmind you, AriadneDec 05 08:33
schestowitzwatch out for any future attempts to cause conflicts between usDec 05 08:33
schestowitzesp. if it's a second-hand "account"Dec 05 08:33
Ariadnei make my own decisions based on actual factsDec 05 08:33
schestowitzThis was attempted before, a sort of divide-and-rule strategyDec 05 08:33
schestowitzone example goes only months backDec 05 08:34
schestowitzalso attempts to dissuade contributors/guest authorsDec 05 08:34
schestowitzor whistleblowersDec 05 08:34
schestowitz(if they know who those are)Dec 05 08:34
Ariadnei mean, bluntlyDec 05 08:34
Ariadneyou're entitled to your own opinionsDec 05 08:34
schestowitzmy opinions are not too controversialDec 05 08:35
schestowitznot as some people'sDec 05 08:35
schestowitzbut I was thinking 2 hours agoDec 05 08:35
schestowitza determined personDec 05 08:35
Ariadnethe only thing that would piss me off is if i went to techrights.org and saw white power shitDec 05 08:35
schestowitzcould go through 12 years of IRC logsDec 05 08:35
Ariadneor anti-LGBT shitDec 05 08:35
schestowitzthat's 24/7, for over 12 yearsDec 05 08:35
schestowitzand then cherry-pick things I typed that can sound "sexist" or "Racist"Dec 05 08:35
schestowitzthen put that in some site like "geekFeminism"Dec 05 08:36
schestowitzto make people look away or call for a boycottDec 05 08:36
Ariadnewell i've been "cancelled" a few times by idiotsDec 05 08:36
schestowitzthere used to be several sites calling for a boycott of oursDec 05 08:36
schestowitzinc. domains named to that effectDec 05 08:36
Ariadneso i know better than to take anything i read on the internet at face valueDec 05 08:36
schestowitzthat was before the term "cancel culture" existedDec 05 08:36
schestowitzOliva said the sameDec 05 08:37
schestowitzthat he had been cancelledDec 05 08:37
schestowitzwithout even realising itDec 05 08:37
schestowitznow we have better vocabulary to explain those thingsDec 05 08:37
schestowitzmany gaslighting and bullying victims don't realise it until years or decades laterDec 05 08:37
schestowitzmjg59 is here nowDec 05 08:37
schestowitzI very much doubt he's here for the "lols"Dec 05 08:37
Ariadnein my case, thosepeople harassed me because i demonstrated they were sold a pile of crap with mastodon (:Dec 05 08:39
Ariadnei guess it is convenient to shoot the messenger rather than demand somebody do competent workDec 05 08:40
schestowitzbe forewarnedDec 05 08:40
schestowitzskulduggery will be attemptedDec 05 08:40
schestowitzAriadne: http://schestowitz.com/2020/12/05/Dec 05 08:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media PostsDec 05 08:40
schestowitzthis is more like the stallman.org political notesDec 05 08:41
schestowitzhe separated these from gnu and fsfDec 05 08:41
schestowitznobody can take them offline but himselfDec 05 08:41
Ariadnestallman, again, is right on  many issues, does not mean i agree 100% with him on everythingDec 05 08:41
schestowitzrightDec 05 08:41
schestowitznobodyDec 05 08:42
schestowitz100%Dec 05 08:42
schestowitzthat's OKDec 05 08:42
Ariadnei doubt i agree 100% with anyone on anythingDec 05 08:42
schestowitz 100% means we FORCE people to ALIGN with our viewsDec 05 08:42
schestowitzTwitter is a zone that encourages thisDec 05 08:42
Ariadneanyway, i work for a company which produces an enterprise version of alpine for servers and telecom gearDec 05 08:43
Ariadneso i expect the intelligence agencies of the world to fuck with me regardlessDec 05 08:43
schestowitzcompanies are full of differing viewsDec 05 08:43
Ariadnebecause that's a high value targetDec 05 08:43
schestowitzbut they have limitationsDec 05 08:43
Ariadnei hold signing keys for an OS running on infrastructureDec 05 08:43
schestowitzbecause of blowbackDec 05 08:43
schestowitzwith wikileaks they did the "sexist" type smearDec 05 08:44
schestowitzeven prior to SwedenDec 05 08:44
schestowitzthey did the same to BernieDec 05 08:44
schestowitz"bros"Dec 05 08:44
schestowitzand on Corbyn they kept Red Scare and "antisemitism"Dec 05 08:45
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Ariadneits pretty wild to think about how i have a solar panel which gathers light, charges a battery and then uses that battery to send signals back to space for internet accessDec 05 08:46
Ariadne(all monitored by an alpine raspberry pi system)Dec 05 08:46
schestowitzI think you live in a remote areaDec 05 08:46
schestowitzwith goats and stuffDec 05 08:46
Ariadnei doDec 05 08:46
schestowitzwish I could do thatDec 05 08:46
schestowitzcovid make remote living more popular Dec 05 08:47
schestowitzthere's an UNDERsupply of such houses nowDec 05 08:47
schestowitzso their value sky-rocketedDec 05 08:47
Ariadneyeah i got in pre-covidDec 05 08:47
Ariadne$80k for 51.87 acresDec 05 08:47
Ariadne:)Dec 05 08:47
schestowitzbusiness/retail and city living "properties" plummetedDec 05 08:47
schestowitzso many jobs are "remote" nowDec 05 08:48
schestowitzso people want more space at homeDec 05 08:48
schestowitzaround the home, inside the homeDec 05 08:48
schestowitzalso distance from other peopoleDec 05 08:48
Ariadnewell, people are the worstDec 05 08:48
schestowitzpeople who uses to have an apartment to "just sleep in"Dec 05 08:48
Ariadnei've been doing a lot of sleeping in this yearDec 05 08:49
schestowitzI  meansDec 05 08:49
schestowitzI meantDec 05 08:49
schestowitznot "'sleep in"Dec 05 08:49
schestowitzrather, to sleep inside the homeDec 05 08:49
Ariadnethis year has been unexcitingDec 05 08:49
schestowitzpeople like stallman who said there's no point paying rent to just sleep in  a placeDec 05 08:49
schestowitzended up sleeping in his officerDec 05 08:49
schestowitzofficerDec 05 08:49
schestowitzto save time/moneyDec 05 08:50
Ariadnethis year has mostly been sleeping and watching movies on bluray and dvd mediaDec 05 08:50
schestowitzWhen i worked at the university, on site, until 2007, it was like thereDec 05 08:50
schestowitzgo home, eat sleep, go back to the officeDec 05 08:50
schestowitzso you pay rent for a place to eat/sleepDec 05 08:50
Ariadnestreaming services are a no-go for meDec 05 08:50
schestowitzdisservicesDec 05 08:51
schestowitzright now we use peertubeDec 05 08:51
Ariadnenot because of DRM (i don't care, as i would be consuming that media on an appliance anyway)Dec 05 08:51
schestowitzthe one of blenderDec 05 08:51
schestowitzlots of nice blender clips, p2pDec 05 08:51
Ariadnebut because of the fact that i havea quota'd connectionDec 05 08:51
Ariadneafter 75GB of transfer, my connection is 'deprioritized'Dec 05 08:52
schestowitzwe once went to a farm house with a connection like thatDec 05 08:52
schestowitzover satelliteDec 05 08:52
Ariadnewhich means it can be as low as 3mbps down during the dayDec 05 08:52
schestowitzvery slow connection, makes you think how you use the Net and what in itDec 05 08:52
schestowitzlots of DVDs there, hundredsDec 05 08:52
Ariadneand DRM is defeated in the end usuallyDec 05 08:52
Ariadnesee also: DeCSSDec 05 08:52
Ariadneand the bluray oneDec 05 08:53
schestowitz75gb is how much our raspi alone does with ipfsDec 05 08:53
Ariadneand, hell, widevine (:Dec 05 08:53
AriadneyeahDec 05 08:53
Ariadnewe also have a verizon lte connectionDec 05 08:53
schestowitzwhich microsoft defendsDec 05 08:53
schestowitzit derails projects that circumvent itDec 05 08:53
Ariadnei try to loadbalanceDec 05 08:53
schestowitzthe media did not cover thatDec 05 08:53
Ariadnein fairness, that github project had the widevine master key embedded in itDec 05 08:53
schestowitzso? digg.com did tooDec 05 08:54
Ariadnewhich is technically illegalDec 05 08:54
schestowitzfor the sony drm stuffDec 05 08:54
schestowitzand people reposted it a lotDec 05 08:54
schestowitzif your system depends for 'protection' on some string being a "secret", maybe it deserves to be brokenDec 05 08:54
schestowitzlike the 'DRM' youtube-dl tackledDec 05 08:54
Ariadnein the widevine client i am working on, you have to download the key elsewhereDec 05 08:54
schestowitzbasically go to url, get plain text second urlDec 05 08:54
Ariadnethat gets around the DMCA problemDec 05 08:54
schestowitzthat's not even DRMDec 05 08:55
Ariadneif the RIAA thought that was bullshitDec 05 08:55
Ariadnewait untilthey find out about deezerDec 05 08:55
schestowitzCFAA needs to be abolished tooDec 05 08:55
Ariadnethere is a software, smloadrDec 05 08:55
Ariadnewhich lets you download FLACsDec 05 08:55
Ariadnefrom deezerDec 05 08:55
Ariadnefor $0Dec 05 08:55
Ariadne:DDec 05 08:55
Ariadnei think in that case, they would have some legitimate complaintsDec 05 08:56
Ariadnedeezer should not be allowing thatDec 05 08:56
Ariadneits a bug in their website, but they don't care to fix itDec 05 08:56
Ariadnei know a lot of musiciansDec 05 08:57
oiaohmAriadne: widevine we have seen DCMA again Widevine-L3-DecryptorDec 05 08:57
oiaohmagain/againstDec 05 08:57
Ariadneoiaohm: yes, which had the master key embedded in itDec 05 08:57
oiaohmDigital rights management turns into a game of wack a mole in most cases with the poor consumer basically being the mole.Dec 05 08:58
Ariadnei agreeDec 05 08:58
Ariadneanyway, i know a lot of musicians, which have told meDec 05 08:58
Ariadnethey would rather people torrent their music instead of use spotifyDec 05 08:58
Ariadnebecause spotify pays them literally pennies per monthDec 05 08:58
schestowitzthey are powerlessDec 05 08:58
Ariadneso its not worth it to themDec 05 08:58
schestowitzmost areDec 05 08:58
schestowitzsome are deluded into thinking they are in controlDec 05 08:59
schestowitzbut the channels of distribution are monopoliesDec 05 08:59
schestowitzyou can get canceled within one hour for a controversial political statementDec 05 08:59
Ariadneone cool thing about covid isDec 05 08:59
schestowitzand few artists got their own label, even Michael Jackson was "property" of SonyDec 05 08:59
schestowitzafter MotownDec 05 08:59
Ariadnethere's been a lot of concert videos go up on youtube for freeDec 05 08:59
schestowitzsame for footballDec 05 09:00
oiaohmNot all channels of distributions are monopolies.   Just the well known ones are Dec 05 09:00
schestowitzno spectatorsDec 05 09:00
Ariadnenot that i like youtubeDec 05 09:00
schestowitzso to get interest in sport they make clips available onlineDec 05 09:00
Ariadnei dislike google servicesDec 05 09:00
schestowitz'services'Dec 05 09:00
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schestowitz"If you're inactive in one or more of these services for two years (24 months), Google may delete the content in the product(s) in which you're inactive. " https://www.blog.google/products/photos/storage-policy-updateDec 05 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.blog.google | An update to storage policies across your Google AccountDec 05 09:00
AriadnehoweverDec 05 09:01
Ariadneyoutube-dl is pretty greatDec 05 09:01
oiaohmThat has a lot of uses outside youtube.Dec 05 09:01
Ariadnedata use between midnight and 9am is not counted against quotaDec 05 09:01
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Ariadneso i queue stuff up :)Dec 05 09:01
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oiaohmThere are a lot of training videos from different educational sites I have to use with work I have got with youtube-dl.Dec 05 09:02
oiaohmThat good when network connection is not exactly good.Dec 05 09:02
Ariadneright now on viasat, i am pulling down 70mbpsDec 05 09:03
Ariadnewith 300ms latencyDec 05 09:03
Ariadneand as more of their LEO satellites come onlineDec 05 09:05
Ariadneit should be down to about 100ms latencyDec 05 09:05
Ariadnewhich will be amazingDec 05 09:05
oiaohmWorst I have had on sat was a 1.5 second latency.Dec 05 09:06
oiaohmand that suxed.Dec 05 09:06
Ariadnethe viasat gateway also has transparent cache for http websitesDec 05 09:06
Ariadnewhich does heavy prefetchingDec 05 09:06
Ariadneunfortunately, https does not benefit from that obviouslyDec 05 09:07
Ariadnesince that would require MITMing all connectionsDec 05 09:07
schestowitz[09:03] <Ariadne> with 300ms latencyDec 05 09:27
schestowitzthat might be OKDec 05 09:27
schestowitzdepends how you use the NetDec 05 09:27
schestowitzor the WebDec 05 09:27
schestowitzI think I'd be OK with itDec 05 09:27
schestowitzfor big downloads you can ssh to some other node somewhere, then download by proxy to itDec 05 09:28
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AriadneniniDec 05 09:36
schestowitzI am downloading my twitter archive at the momenrDec 05 09:37
schestowitz1.7 gb and goingDec 05 09:37
schestowitzit's so awfully slowDec 05 09:38
schestowitzit comes from a server ton.twitter.comDec 05 09:38
schestowitznever saw this address beforeDec 05 09:38
schestowitzI think the archive is like a 2GB zip fileDec 05 09:38
schestowitzjust for the textDec 05 09:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/DMCANews/status/1335130137868652544Dec 05 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DMCANews: Awesome!!!! Just awesome! https://t.co/mMEZTJmMBMDec 05 09:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://techrights.org/2020/12/04/sfc-not-about-freedom/ )Dec 05 09:39
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schestowitzhttps://screenrant.com/twitter-legacy-nintendo-3ds-shut-down-date-december-2020/ Dec 05 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-screenrant.com | Legacy Twitter Shutdown Means You Can’t Tweet From The 3DS AnymoreDec 05 15:16
psydroidand you can't do that anymore because the software on the 3DS is not freedom respecting and because Twitter is about social control rather than enabling people to communicateDec 05 15:26
psydroidnothing has been lost and it's better to move onDec 05 15:26
MinceR(audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/13/ffbfd752515dd587.mp4Dec 05 15:27
XRevan86Another one of those.Dec 05 15:28
schestowitzyayDec 05 15:30
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smnthermes> ‎[05:25:41] ‎schestowitz‎: grsecurity hates me alsoDec 05 15:54
smnthermesYou mean this? https://nitter.snopyta.org/grsecurity/status/1043940928719851521#mDec 05 15:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.snopyta.org | grsecurity (@grsecurity): "I'm sure you'll be able to cite any source where we demanded Linus put our code in Linux. Of course you won't be able to, because it's a complete fabrication that fits whatever narrative you're going for." | nitterDec 05 15:54
MinceRgrsecurity probably hates everyone who doesn't buy into microshit's snake oilDec 05 15:56
smnthermeshttps://nitter.net/spendergrsec/status/1293155014815420418#mDec 05 15:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Brad Spengler (@spendergrsec): "Why don't you inform your readers you're quoting anonymous troll and self-professed pedophile Mikeeusa who has resurfaced again with another anonymous remailer address to post what you quoted? This is the same person who claimed the GPL could be rescinded" | nitterDec 05 15:57
smnthermeshttps://nitter.net/spendergrsec/status/1293155787859206146#mDec 05 15:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Brad Spengler (@spendergrsec): "Importantly, neither the FSF nor the SFC, nor in fact any actual lawyer agrees with this bizarre claim from an anonymous troll. More info about the source of the claim can be found here: https://grsecurity.net/setting_the_record_straight_on_oss_v_perens_part1 Thanks for doing your part, "Dr" to continue the troll's harrassment" | nitterDec 05 15:57
smnthermesMikeeusa is cancer thoughDec 05 16:00
MinceRso's grsecurityDec 05 16:02
schestowitzsmnthermes: yes, thatDec 05 16:07
schestowitzbut...Dec 05 16:07
schestowitzthey have another issueDec 05 16:07
schestowitzBrat [sic] in particularDec 05 16:07
schestowitzthey pretend all their critics are just MikeeusaDec 05 16:07
schestowitzwho is indeed highly toxicDec 05 16:07
schestowitzbut Torvalds never based his criticism on anything MikeeusaDec 05 16:07
schestowitzand I don't think Perens did, eitherDec 05 16:08
schestowitzanyway, I stay away from BratDec 05 16:08
schestowitzBrat is really rude and unpleasant onlineDec 05 16:08
schestowitzonly polite compared to MikeeusaDec 05 16:08
MinceRhttps://files.catbox.moe/r9pt0s.jpgDec 05 16:13
oiaohmDarn that a good goof sign placementDec 05 16:56
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vZS1schestowitz: doing work on the Pi?Dec 05 17:48
schestowitzNo, connection was resetDec 05 17:50
schestowitzso ip rotatedDec 05 17:50
schestowitzI don't have the tools for work on the piDec 05 17:50
schestowitzzoobab is into solderingDec 05 17:51
schestowitzI think one of my friends have has the gearDec 05 17:51
schestowitzbut need to checkDec 05 17:51
schestowitzhe's vulnerable groupDec 05 17:51
schestowitzI need to put some HATsDec 05 17:51
schestowitzfor monitoring the sitesDec 05 17:51
schestowitzLEDs and buttonsDec 05 17:51
vZS1AhDec 05 18:28
vZS1Mine doesn't have anything on it apart from a plastic caseDec 05 18:28
schestowitzA friend sent it to meDec 05 18:39
schestowitzthere are no manualsDec 05 18:39
schestowitzI will need to find some onlineDec 05 18:39
schestowitzthen get the scripts installed to use the HATsDec 05 18:39
schestowitzI have not even assembled the enclosure yetDec 05 18:39
schestowitzas it would defeat the purpose when I reopen itDec 05 18:39
schestowitzmaybe a xmas projectDec 05 18:39
vZS1I just have an enclosure because I use it as a headless serverDec 05 19:16
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DaemonFC[m]"People saw an unstable individual mixing misogynistic comments with nonsensical legal theories."Dec 05 20:02
DaemonFC[m]Ladies and Gentlemen, the President for another 47 days, of the United States! :)Dec 05 20:02
DaemonFC[m]schestowitzMinceR At least with the Coronavirus we have the first fascist movement that's marching itself to the gas chambers.Dec 05 20:09
DaemonFC[m]The world does seem to have a perverse sense of humor sometimes. Dec 05 20:09
DaemonFC[m]Picking off fascists and random ignorant people more than the population at large.Dec 05 20:10
schestowitzhim DaemonFC[m]Dec 05 20:15
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: the US had gas chambers tooDec 05 20:16
schestowitzhttps://www.britannica.com/topic/gas-chamberDec 05 20:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gas chamber | execution device | BritannicaDec 05 20:16
DaemonFC[m]For prisoners sentenced to death.Dec 05 20:16
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: can you read with me latest article?Dec 05 20:16
schestowitzit's ready for final readDec 05 20:16
DaemonFC[m]Yeah.Dec 05 20:16
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/12/05/journalist-campinos/Dec 05 20:17
schestowitz5 secs agoDec 05 20:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Mister António Campinos ‘Joins’ IAM ‘Media’ and IAM ‘Magazine’ (Symptom of Dying Media) | TechrightsDec 05 20:17
DaemonFC[m]Not random people marched in to die by the millions.Dec 05 20:17
schestowitznot yetDec 05 20:17
DaemonFC[m]We're pretty much talking about the worst criminals convicted by a court, and then again, unanimously by a different jury to get the death sentence.Dec 05 20:17
schestowitzwhen there's hyperinflation and hungerDec 05 20:18
schestowitzand a lost warDec 05 20:18
schestowitzthen you check your 'assets'Dec 05 20:18
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: If I ended up on such a sentencing jury I would consider what to do, very carefully.Dec 05 20:18
DaemonFC[m]Leaning against imposing it, but not decided either way off the bat.Dec 05 20:19
schestowitzwe already saw nutty jidges and politiciansDec 05 20:19
schestowitzmore so under TrumpDec 05 20:19
schestowitzlike BarrDec 05 20:19
schestowitzas AGDec 05 20:19
schestowitzloyalty to party fuhrer/liiiieder!Dec 05 20:19
schestowitzlieben? nicht!!Dec 05 20:19
DaemonFC[m]Bill Barr will be gone soon.Dec 05 20:20
DaemonFC[m]Dad's coming more unglued by the minute.Dec 05 20:20
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DaemonFC[m]As it sinks in that Trump has really lost, he's parroting those lawyers that were so crazy that Trump himself dismissed them.Dec 05 20:20
schestowitzlolDec 05 20:20
schestowitzmaybe the hair comes off nextDec 05 20:21
schestowitzwith the dyeDec 05 20:21
schestowitzthe pclinixos magazine of last week parroted some of itDec 05 20:21
schestowitzit's composed by bible belt peopleDec 05 20:21
schestowitztexstar is from around thereDec 05 20:21
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DaemonFC[m]That lawyer with the youtube channel that I watch theorized that Giuliani dyes what's left of his hair due to Neurolinguistics theory.Dec 05 20:21
schestowitzbiggest trump fans those folks...Dec 05 20:21
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DaemonFC[m]Part of that theory is that if a person looks and sounds kind of like you then you put more weight into what they say.Dec 05 20:22
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DaemonFC[m]So he says, "In a way it's just good client management.".Dec 05 20:22
schestowitzlolDec 05 20:22
schestowitzanywayDec 05 20:22
schestowitzabout my articleDec 05 20:22
DaemonFC[m]The longer Giuliani runs the meter without being fired, the more days he gets paid $20 k.Dec 05 20:22
schestowitzcan you read through quickly?Dec 05 20:22
DaemonFC[m]Oh, yeah. BRBDec 05 20:23
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DaemonFC[m]"many year"Dec 05 20:23
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DaemonFC[m]yearsDec 05 20:23
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DaemonFC[m]"I physically met journalists, who in turn"Dec 05 20:24
DaemonFC[m]I've physically met journalists who, in turn,Dec 05 20:24
DaemonFC[m]"for discussion Mr. Campinos."Dec 05 20:25
schestowitzyeahDec 05 20:25
DaemonFC[m]for discussingDec 05 20:25
schestowitzoopsDec 05 20:25
DaemonFC[m]or "for discussion of".Dec 05 20:26
DaemonFC[m]"I saw it all,"Dec 05 20:26
DaemonFC[m]I've seen it all. (with a period, not comma)Dec 05 20:27
DaemonFC[m]"It’s really ugly, it is utterly disgusting, and it is patently corrupt."Dec 05 20:28
DaemonFC[m]I'd say just use "it's" throughout.Dec 05 20:28
DaemonFC[m]"Even wonder why there’s media blackout about EPO scandals?"Dec 05 20:28
DaemonFC[m]EverDec 05 20:28
schestowitzyeahDec 05 20:28
DaemonFC[m]"Those aren’t coincidences, it’s all planned and those people know one another and have phonebooks."Dec 05 20:29
DaemonFC[m]That's not coincidence. It's all planned, and those people know each other and have phone books.Dec 05 20:29
schestowitzdoneDec 05 20:30
DaemonFC[m]"told me ysterday"Dec 05 20:30
DaemonFC[m]yesterdayDec 05 20:30
DaemonFC[m]"The should be a list"Dec 05 20:31
DaemonFC[m]I know, direct quote....Dec 05 20:31
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DaemonFC[m]"Fraudlinger"Dec 05 20:32
DaemonFC[m]What a name.Dec 05 20:32
DaemonFC[m]Like fraud that lingers. Dec 05 20:32
DaemonFC[m]"of the sorts of abuses"Dec 05 20:33
DaemonFC[m]sort of abusesDec 05 20:33
schestowitzcorrectingDec 05 20:34
schestowitzI found so many typos, wowDec 05 20:34
schestowitzmaybe I need coffee (to be fair, this was done in one fast pass)Dec 05 20:34
schestowitzthe fish look like they're hungry, bbiab, getting coffee alsoDec 05 20:35
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schestowitzlooks like the matrix gateway brokeDec 05 21:05
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schestowitzhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/12/03/facebook-hate-speech/Dec 05 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Facebook is overhauling its hate speech algorithms - The Washington PostDec 05 21:10
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: I lost you hereDec 05 21:17
schestowitzmatric issues, I thinkDec 05 21:17
schestowitzLast I saw was: [20:33] <DaemonFC[m]> sort of abusesDec 05 21:17
schestowitz*matrix issuesDec 05 21:17
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DaemonFC[m]Oh great.Dec 05 21:45
DaemonFC[m]Uh, you called him Campinis at one point.Dec 05 21:45
DaemonFC[m]Did you fix that?Dec 05 21:45
schestowitzyesDec 05 21:46
schestowitzno idea how that happenedDec 05 21:46
schestowitzmaybe finger slippedDec 05 21:46
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/12/05/antonio-sneakers/Dec 05 21:46
schestowitzEuropeDec 05 21:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] ‘Nice’ and ‘Cool’ António Campinos, Now With Extra Sneakers | TechrightsDec 05 21:46
schestowitzwhere you put on "casual"Dec 05 21:46
schestowitzand then you're "nice"Dec 05 21:46
DaemonFC[m]I think that everything went through.Dec 05 21:48
schestowitzirc-wise?Dec 05 21:48
DaemonFC[m]I have considered just breaking off IRC from Matrix and going back to using Konversation or HexChat for IRC.Dec 05 21:48
DaemonFC[m]Too many weird bridge issues sometimes.Dec 05 21:49
schestowitzHappy weekend from President Trump. Another 2,000 American dead.Dec 05 21:49
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: what's the upper hand of matrix anyway?Dec 05 21:49
schestowitzexcept being "new"?Dec 05 21:49
schestowitzI saw SlackDec 05 21:49
schestowitzutter rubbishDec 05 21:49
schestowitzbloated and no real featuresDec 05 21:50
schestowitzlike IRC 1989+bloatDec 05 21:50
DaemonFC[m]Aesthetic Animes can't be previewed. Do you want to join it?" Yes. "This room has been blocked from this homeserver due to abuse of the Code of Conduct.".Dec 05 21:51
DaemonFC[m]God damn these people.Dec 05 21:51
DaemonFC[m]Of course when I told Matrix to list rooms the other day there's one about bestiality with hundreds of people in it.Dec 05 21:51
DaemonFC[m]And that's okay apparently.Dec 05 21:51
DaemonFC[m]Not strictly speaking "illegal" to talk about I guess, but under the laws of most states you can be charged for "distributing" anything, so what they're doing in there is probably going beyond speech, I would imagine.Dec 05 21:52
DaemonFC[m]Then again who knows? Might just be furries. They're weird.Dec 05 21:52
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Well, the protocol and the web app are open source with Matrix, but not terribly well designed.Dec 05 21:53
schestowitzmaybe they met your ex dateDec 05 21:53
schestowitzwho "likes dogs"Dec 05 21:53
DaemonFC[m]End to end encryption on Matrix chats, though. I guess that's good.Dec 05 21:53
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, I ended that one very quickly.Dec 05 21:54
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/08/14/control-but-no-accountability/Dec 05 21:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | High-Level Criminals Associate Privacy With Crime Because They Want Privacy Only for Themselves (Control But No Accountability) | TechrightsDec 05 21:54
schestowitzsays the guy whose engineer was arrested in his mansionDec 05 21:54
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: That's the thing about people, pre-internet even.Dec 05 21:54
schestowitzfor rape of children pr0nDec 05 21:54
DaemonFC[m]You don't know who you're meeting.Dec 05 21:54
schestowitzanal rape of kids aged around 10 iircDec 05 21:54
DaemonFC[m]People were hosting those sorts of chats on AOL in the 1990s.Dec 05 21:55
DaemonFC[m]Even though AOL required your credit card and home address and knew where you were dialing in from.Dec 05 21:55
schestowitzthis one might continues to haunt them http://techrights.org/2020/08/21/zoophilia-gates-estate/Dec 05 21:55
DaemonFC[m]So easy for police raids.Dec 05 21:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Melinda and Zoophilia Found in Tandem in the Illegal Pornographic ‘Stash’ of Bill Gates’ Engineer | TechrightsDec 05 21:55
schestowitzbut bill is busy saving the world now... or somethingDec 05 21:55
DaemonFC[m]But AOL pretty much turned a blind eye from what I've read.Dec 05 21:55
schestowitzwhoa 1,936 deaths nowDec 05 21:56
schestowitzleaped from 1700 minutes agoDec 05 21:56
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: My aunt, the one who died in the car accident in 2013, was compulsively on AOL, even when they were billing by the hour.Dec 05 21:56
schestowitztexas is a very red state nowDec 05 21:56
DaemonFC[m]It was pretty tragic because she met a dentist on a dating room.Dec 05 21:56
DaemonFC[m]Seemed to be going okay.Dec 05 21:56
DaemonFC[m]Started eating better and exercising, and then found out it was just some asshole who wanted to cheat on his wife. Dec 05 21:57
schestowitzi heard stories of liarsDec 05 21:57
schestowitzthey get their wayDec 05 21:57
schestowitzby posingDec 05 21:57
DaemonFC[m]I remember her talking about it in the mid 90s. She thought she found a nice guy.Dec 05 21:57
schestowitzgood thing I didn't meet my wife "online"Dec 05 21:57
schestowitzmany these days meet people on FB, Internet, through friends etc.Dec 05 21:57
DaemonFC[m]She said that he'd set up private rooms with passwords like molar. Dec 05 21:58
schestowitzand by the time they chat in person it's awfulDec 05 21:58
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, I met Mandy on Grindr of all places.Dec 05 21:58
schestowitzewwDec 05 21:58
schestowitzthat connotates with "let's have gay sex"Dec 05 21:58
schestowitzNot sure about what Tinder is associated withDec 05 21:58
schestowitzsome sites associated with cheatingDec 05 21:59
DaemonFC[m]He said he had met a couple people on there and tried to start a relationship with them and there was this one by the name of Nico who met his sister once and then bolted. Dec 05 21:59
schestowitzand then with leaking members' names and detailsDec 05 21:59
DaemonFC[m]I told him "Can't imagine why.....".Dec 05 21:59
schestowitzGood relationships don't start with "apps"Dec 05 21:59
schestowitzI never had "apps"Dec 05 21:59
schestowitz235 covid deaths in ILDec 05 22:00
schestowitzwow, you are becoming the new NYSDec 05 22:00
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, basically.Dec 05 22:02
DaemonFC[m]Mandy threw a fit this morning because I said we weren't going to the mall.Dec 05 22:02
DaemonFC[m]They shouldn't even be open at this point.Dec 05 22:02
DaemonFC[m]I told him we need to minimize going out to him at work and me doing the shopping until there's an effective vaccine.Dec 05 22:03
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19603633Dec 05 22:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: So far in December about 12,000 American #covid19 deaths... and it hasn't even been 5 days yet! Dec 05 22:03
DaemonFC[m]This is not calming down.Dec 05 22:04
schestowitznopeDec 05 22:04
schestowitzramping upDec 05 22:04
schestowitzuntil strict lockdown and circuit-breakingDec 05 22:04
DaemonFC[m]It is, in fact, getting ready to calm up. (Teal'c SG-1) (For MinceR)Dec 05 22:04
schestowitzhow many hospitals are over capacity now?Dec 05 22:04
schestowitzI reckon mostDec 05 22:04
schestowitzso don't even break a leg or get the fluDec 05 22:05
schestowitzyou don't have your back covered by medical professionalsDec 05 22:05
DaemonFC[m]They say, the CDC even, that US hospitals are weeks from collapse.Dec 05 22:05
DaemonFC[m]Meanwhile, malls open and Trump's "maximum pressure" to reopen schools.Dec 05 22:05
schestowitzthe gym opened here days agoDec 05 22:05
schestowitzit's so quiet it's scaryDec 05 22:05
DaemonFC[m]He can still do an incredible amount of further damage in his 47 remaining days as mom and dad's president.Dec 05 22:05
schestowitza lot of the appliances weren't even turned onDec 05 22:06
schestowitzI had to ask staff 3 times before they found the right switchesDec 05 22:06
schestowitzthe gym wrote today to offer 12 days free for a friendDec 05 22:06
schestowitzthey need new membersDec 05 22:06
schestowitz46 days IIRCDec 05 22:06
schestowitznot 47Dec 05 22:06
schestowitzoh, waitDec 05 22:07
schestowitzdependsDec 05 22:07
schestowitzwhose day is the 20th?Dec 05 22:07
schestowitzhalf and half?Dec 05 22:07
MinceR:>Dec 05 22:07
schestowitzwhen you touch the bibbe babble?Dec 05 22:07
MinceR>half and halfDec 05 22:07
MinceR"Chicken isn't vegan?"Dec 05 22:08
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: tell him their psychopath duterte agrees with uouDec 05 22:08
schestowitzall you have now is,Dec 05 22:08
schestowitzwash hands, keep distance, wear maskDec 05 22:08
schestowitzno vaccine fantasies yetDec 05 22:08
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: the lack of people at the gym leads to neglectDec 05 22:13
schestowitzmy friend yannis got electrocuted on WednesdayDec 05 22:13
schestowitzI heard the loud bang in the bathroomDec 05 22:13
schestowitzI told him it's probably the fuse blowingDec 05 22:13
schestowitzhair dryerDec 05 22:13
schestowitzhe had to visit a physician at corona timesDec 05 22:14
schestowitzhad a massive purple mask on his stomachDec 05 22:14
schestowitzand that ALONE is why they FInaLLY changed that applianceDec 05 22:14
schestowitzafter 3 months sitting there with "DO NOT USE" signDec 05 22:14
schestowitzwhich he did not noticeDec 05 22:14
schestowitzso it was a disaster waiting to happenDec 05 22:14
schestowitzhealth ans safety regulations floutedDec 05 22:14
schestowitzcoz 'pandemic'Dec 05 22:15
schestowitzhe could have died if he held it hear his headDec 05 22:15
schestowitzThat's the unspoken creepy side of it... lethal neglectDec 05 22:16
schestowitzI've told them for MONTHS to replace iotDec 05 22:16
schestowitzbut they did nothing until risking a big lawsuitDec 05 22:16
schestowitzif you go to a shopping mallDec 05 22:17
schestowitztell mandy structural decay can be a risk alsoDec 05 22:17
schestowitzit's just not a priority, loose maintenanceDec 05 22:17
schestowitzplanes are poorly maintained tooDec 05 22:19
schestowitzquite a few crashes this yearDec 05 22:19
schestowitznot all made the newsDec 05 22:19
schestowitzplanes not used for a long time being put in serviceDec 05 22:19
schestowitzwith parts of them in unknown conditionDec 05 22:19
schestowitzand "cooled down"Dec 05 22:19
schestowitzyannis was stupid for picking up that applianceDec 05 22:19
schestowitzbut still, it really ought NOT have been there in the first place; I kept warning them it was a disaster in the makingDec 05 22:20
schestowitzbut there's nobody to talk to, lack of coordination among what's left of the staffDec 05 22:20
schestowitzthey don't even know which switches to turn onDec 05 22:20
smnthermes> ‎[18:51:05] ‎DaemonFC[m]‎: Aesthetic Animes can't be previewed. Do you want to join it?" Yes. "This room has been blocked from this homeserver due to abuse of the Code of Conduct.".Dec 05 22:22
smnthermesMatrix blocked it?Dec 05 22:22
DaemonFC[m]On January 20th at noon, Biden takes over and can immediately start signing hundreds of executive orders they already have printed up.Dec 05 22:23
DaemonFC[m]smnthermes: Yes, that's the third Matrix dot org room that I've seen them block this month for "abusive conduct", and I haven't seen anyone explain any abusive conduct.Dec 05 22:24
DaemonFC[m]But they let hardcore illegal pornography rooms stay running apparently.Dec 05 22:24
schestowitzCode of Conduct is a toxic term nowDec 05 22:24
schestowitzbecause it got associated with corporate interestsDec 05 22:24
schestowitzrather than actual safetyDec 05 22:24
schestowitzor actual objective meritsDec 05 22:24
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I keep seeing the Microsoft media encouraging people to get around the stated terms of Microsoft's EULA.Dec 05 22:31
schestowitzexamples?Dec 05 22:32
schestowitzPhoronix is doing Microsoft Vista 10 coverage now https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-5900X-Zen-3-Spectre-WindowsDec 05 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Quick Look At The Spectre Mitigation State For AMD Zen 3 On Windows 10 - PhoronixDec 05 22:33
DaemonFC[m]https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-download-windows-10-for-free-now-that-windows-7-is-dead/Dec 05 22:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Windows 10 free download: How to get the upgrade now - CNETDec 05 22:34
schestowitzlolDec 05 22:34
schestowitza.k.a. download.comDec 05 22:34
schestowitz'freeware'Dec 05 22:34
schestowitzthat's cbsDec 05 22:34
schestowitzsame as zdnetDec 05 22:34
schestowitzsame company, same writersDec 05 22:34
schestowitzthey're Microsoft PR front nowDec 05 22:35
schestowitz174,127 new cases and 2,036 new deaths in the United StatesDec 05 22:35
schestowitztrump had covid "for only 20 seconds" :-)Dec 05 22:35
DaemonFC[m]https://www.zdnet.com/article/this-free-windows-10-upgrade-offer-still-works-heres-why-and-how-to-get-it/Dec 05 22:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This free Windows 10 upgrade offer still works. Here's why -- and how to get it | ZDNetDec 05 22:35
schestowitzIllinois 235Dec 05 22:35
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: Microsoft marketing disguised as newsDec 05 22:36
DaemonFC[m]So Microsoft said the free update program ended and then quietly brought it back, because the alternative was lots of old unsupported systems being "pressed back into service" using a supported Linux distribution.Dec 05 22:36
DaemonFC[m]Yet, Bott mentions that some systems hit a 'compatibility block' and recommends looking for BIOS updates.Dec 05 22:37
DaemonFC[m]It's likely that Linux would just go ahead and install and work fine on those systems too.Dec 05 22:37
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Fedora is considering dropping support for legacy BIOS entirely soon.Dec 05 22:38
schestowitzFedora is f'edDec 05 22:38
DaemonFC[m]It seems that they're looking for a clean break so they can ditch GRUB 2 at some point and move to "systemd-boot".Dec 05 22:38
schestowitzfor many reasonsDec 05 22:38
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schestowitzan IBM 'Slurpee' for IBM POWER* mealDec 05 22:39
DaemonFC[m]The GPL in the boot path is being taken out and shot because it imposes some awkwardness with getting Microsoft to bless their "secure boot" implementation.Dec 05 22:39
DaemonFC[m]They mention the "Boot Hole" bug causing Microsoft to eventually do a signature revocation that could stop Fedora systems that are using GRUB from booting completely at sometime soon, and they recommend if this happens, turn Secure Boot off and turn it on after Fedora "fixes it" later.Dec 05 22:40
schestowitzAdBot called opponents of uefi 'secure boot' "fanatics"Dec 05 22:40
schestowitzMicrosoft AsBoughtDec 05 22:41
schestowitz*Microsoft AdBoughtDec 05 22:41
schestowitzzdnet totally quit pretendingDec 05 22:41
schestowitzthey're adsDec 05 22:41
schestowitzalso for LFDec 05 22:41
schestowitzwhich I think pays for itDec 05 22:41
schestowitzLF pays many sites nowDec 05 22:41
schestowitzfor puff pieces/adsDec 05 22:41
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It seems you can get end of life security patches for 3 years from Canonical for free on LTS versions, if you're a home user.Dec 05 22:41
DaemonFC[m]So that basically means you can continue using it for 8 years without worrying too much that it will become so insecure that you're in danger just from using it as it is.Dec 05 22:42
DaemonFC[m]They seem to be very quietly extending their support roadmap to more or less match RHEL.Dec 05 22:43
schestowitzthat would be oKDec 05 22:50
schestowitzbut using their stuff seems like lock-in now with snaps and allDec 05 22:50
schestowitzand they're not DebianDec 05 22:50
schestowitzthey're a for-profit companyDec 05 22:50
schestowitzand too friendly towards proprietary and clownDec 05 22:50
MinceR(no audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/12/84a829d9c5654867.mp4Dec 05 22:50
schestowitzMinceR maaagicDec 05 22:56
schestowitzsleigh of handsDec 05 22:56
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/19603839Dec 05 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Seems like number of US #covid19 cases will pass 15 million today, with about 13,000 dead so far this month (5 days). #trump lied, people died. Dec 05 22:58
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DaemonFC[m]I don't really care about the for profit part.Dec 05 23:07
DaemonFC[m]As long as they don't get in my way.Dec 05 23:08
schestowitzunless Microsoft buys itDec 05 23:08
schestowitzor something similarDec 05 23:08
schestowitzuntil then you don't careDec 05 23:08
schestowitzbut things can happen that make you careDec 05 23:08
schestowitze.g. if you put all your projects and code on VC-funded GitHubDec 05 23:08
schestowitzwhich loses moneyDec 05 23:08
schestowitzand looks for a way to turn that aroundDec 05 23:09
psydroid<schestowitz "DaemonFC: Microsoft marketing di"> Windows is a collection of APIs disguised as an operating systemDec 05 23:18
psydroidand the operating systems parts are far from the state of the art, so it would be better to run it in a VM and let a real operating system handle the hardware, if you need it at allDec 05 23:20
psydroidsystem*Dec 05 23:20
schestowitzWIN stands for WIN is NothingDec 05 23:22
schestowitzjust some APIDec 05 23:22
schestowitzthe company is named after what bill gates thought while in he toileyDec 05 23:23
schestowitz*toiletDec 05 23:23
schestowitzwhile staring at his groinDec 05 23:23
oiaohmschestowitz: https://www.neystadt.org/john/humor/WinNT-Name.htmDec 05 23:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neystadt.org | The Origin of Windows NT NameDec 05 23:26
schestowitzdoes not matter, oiaohmDec 05 23:35
vZS1I haven't kept up with this in a while but can't you just replace the UEFI chip?Dec 05 23:41
vZS1I've seen it being done before for BIOSDec 05 23:41
schestowitzI think Intel embeds it quite hard in boardsDec 05 23:42
schestowitzthey may no longer comes as disparate, discrete things with physical batteries and jumpersDec 05 23:42
vZS1AhDec 05 23:42
schestowitzand the batteries would be soldered inDec 05 23:42
schestowitzlike in so-called 'phones'Dec 05 23:43
schestowitzbecause only TERROR~1 would need privacyDec 05 23:43
vZS1Well. Someone should make a list of all the offending boardsDec 05 23:43
schestowitzand removing UEFI means "no security"Dec 05 23:43
vZS1So we know which to avoidDec 05 23:43
schestowitzlike "wi-fi" without passwords is "DANGEROUS"Dec 05 23:43
schestowitzhttps://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/dec/02/microsoft-apologises-productivity-score-critics-derided-workplace-surveillanceDec 05 23:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Microsoft apologises for feature criticised as workplace surveillance | Technology | The GuardianDec 05 23:45
vZS1This is a pretty high profile issue (UEFI keys)Dec 05 23:45
vZS1Where's the media coverageDec 05 23:45
schestowitzhttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/03/technology/google-researcher-timnit-gebru.htmlDec 05 23:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Google Researcher Timnit Gebru Says She Was Fired For Paper on AI Bias - The New York TimesDec 05 23:45
MinceRoh how blessed we are -- we got an apology from microshitDec 05 23:45
schestowitzvZS1: the what coverage?Dec 05 23:45
MinceRwe'd better treasure it because we aren't getting anything moreDec 05 23:45
schestowitzbillgates-funed 'gaurdian'Dec 05 23:46
schestowitzgrauniadDec 05 23:46
schestowitzvZS1: what's a media?Dec 05 23:47
schestowitzusb?Dec 05 23:47
schestowitzoh, I see... 'the media'Dec 05 23:47
schestowitzthis thing that wrote thousands of articles about trump maybe posting his passwordDec 05 23:47
schestowitzbut never covers legit security issuesDec 05 23:47
schestowitzjust buy iphoneDec 05 23:47
schestowitz"iphone is privacy"Dec 05 23:47
schestowitzthe ads sayDec 05 23:47
schestowitzand tim crooks pinky-promisesDec 05 23:48
schestowitzand somehow the FBI ALWAYS bypasses encryption on a dead terrorist's 'i' phoneDec 05 23:49
schestowitzbut just 'barely'Dec 05 23:49
schestowitzso it's still secure, we promise!!Dec 05 23:49
schestowitzit's very perfectly secureDec 05 23:50
schestowitzunless you are a terrorismDec 05 23:50
schestowitzthen it's a little "less secure"Dec 05 23:50
schestowitzjust enough fro FBIDec 05 23:50
schestowitzthe encryption algo detects if you commits an act of terrorDec 05 23:51
schestowitzif not, it's fully functionalDec 05 23:51
schestowitzotherwise, integrity erodesDec 05 23:51
schestowitzit's a very "Smart" slgoDec 05 23:51
schestowitzalgoDec 05 23:51
schestowitzQuantum something clownDec 05 23:51
schestowitztoo hard to explainDec 05 23:51
schestowitzask quantum physicistsDec 05 23:52
schestowitzsomething about "THe cybER"Dec 05 23:52
schestowitzor the CIPHERDec 05 23:53
MinceRhttps://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cyberDec 05 23:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.urbandictionary.com | Urban Dictionary: cyberDec 05 23:54
schestowitzCheck out the ELLIPTIC CURVE on that thing!Dec 05 23:54
schestowitzMinceR: now we have cyber mondayDec 05 23:54
schestowitza bezos shopping 'holy-day'Dec 05 23:55
schestowitzpray for bezos, shop today, it's never too lateDec 05 23:55
MinceR:>Dec 05 23:59

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