●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, December 05, 2021 ●● ● Dec 05 [00:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [00:10] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 6.35 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 17.60 swarm size (avg): 256.70 [00:11] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 6.35 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 17.60 swarm size (avg): 256.70 [00:14] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@f9g3zbtpuq9yg.irc) has joined #techrights [00:14] schestowitz-TR wb, DaemonFC [00:14] DaemonFC Thanks [00:15] *altlink_d74 has quit (connection closed) [00:15] *altlink_03f (~altlink_03f@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #techrights [00:26] techrights-news #Steam support for #Chromebooks could surface this week https://chromeunboxed.com/steam-support-for-chromebooks-could-surface-this-week/ #chromeunboxed [00:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chromeunboxed.com | Steam support for Chromebooks could surface this week [00:27] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/r82lg9/how_can_we_deal_with_the_increasing_age_of/ [00:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | How can we deal with the increasing age of Libreboot-capable machines? Is there any way we can reclaim our freedom in the days of Intel ME and FSP? Or must we wait for the year of the RISC-V desktop? : linuxmasterrace [00:28] techrights-news "This project began when [Gino]s son spotted the body of a 1943 Douglas R4D military transport aircraft." "https://hackaday.com/2021/12/04/abandoned-airplane-takes-off-again-as-luxury-rv/ [00:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Abandoned Airplane Takes Off Again As Luxury RV | Hackaday [00:28] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: the Libreboot dev is here, leah [00:29] techrights-news #PandoraPapers : How journalists mined terabytes of offshore data to expose the worlds elites https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252510313/Pandora-Papers-How-journalists-mined-terabytes-of-offshore-data-to-expose-the-worlds-elites [00:29] -altlink_03f/#techrights- Cloudflare: computerweekly.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252510313/Pandora-Papers-How-journalists-mined-terabytes-of-offshore-data-to-expose-the-worlds-elites [00:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerweekly.com | Pandora Papers: How journalists mined terabytes of offshore data to expose the worlds elites [00:30] techrights-news The advice here it poor; operating systems with back doors are not secure and the solution isn't in them but outside them, and not AV #snakeoil https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/still-paying-antivirus-software-experts-say-probably-dont-need-rcna6335 [00:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Still paying for antivirus software? Experts say you probably don't need it [00:31] schestowitz-TR MinceR: your links are now clickable in gemini irc logs [00:31] schestowitz-TR we did scrollbacks [00:31] schestowitz-TR next the daily installments [00:32] techrights-news #India known as internet shutdown capital of the world - The Federal https://thefederal.com/news/india-known-as-internet-shutdown-capital-of-the-world/ #thefederal #Internetshutdown [00:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thefederal.com | India known as internet shutdown capital of the world - The Federal [00:32] MinceR :) [00:36] techrights-news Technologys Role in Society: Its Complicated https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/12/technologys-role-in-society-its-complicated.html #ibm #iwb #techfascism [00:36] -altlink_03f/#techrights- Cloudflare: irvingwb.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/12/technologys-role-in-society-its-complicated.html [00:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: Technologys Role in Society: Its Complicated [00:37] schestowitz gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/change/ [00:38] schestowitz gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/change/ [00:39] techrights-news Finally, A Use For Old Cellphones | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/12/04/finally-a-use-for-old-cellphones/ #hackaday (and #gnu #linux is big here; #apple DOES NOT care about such things) [00:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Finally, A Use For Old Cellphones | Hackaday [00:40] techrights-news #gnu #linux inside https://hackaday.com/2021/12/03/wake-up-robot-does-it-gently/ [00:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wake-Up Robot Does It Gently | Hackaday [00:40] techrights-news #Sony vs the #internet https://dwaves.de/2021/12/04/sony-vs-the-internet-in-this-case-dns-resolvers/ [00:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Sony vs the internet (in this case dns resolvers) | dwaves.de [00:42] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:47] techrights-news "Arch and other rolling releases don't break often but when they do rolling releases often times come with challenges that aren't faced by fix point releases." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=EVGLjphtUmA #gnu #linux [00:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Common Ways Arch Linux & Rolling Releases Break - Invidious [00:47] techrights-news "Wanna get your own Linux server?" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=An4X9E9vyn8 #gnu #linux [00:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linux is only free if you don't value your time - Is it still true? - Invidious [00:49] techrights-news #israel a creepy, scary place. Now they plan to tax/fine people who reject #surveillance devices inside their cars (probably #lobbying by pushers of this). https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/encourage-installation-of-new-safety-systems-in-cars-expert-tells-transport-minister-687342 #spying #orwell (like with their COVID-19 policy) [00:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/encourage-installation-of-new-safety-systems-in-cars-expert-tells-transport-minister-687342 ) [00:49] -altlink_03f/#techrights- Cloudflare: jpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/encourage-installation-of-new-safety-systems-in-cars-expert-tells-transport-minister-687342 [00:49] techrights-news "smarter construction" = spying (on workers etc. construction https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/single-platform-technology-the-future-of-smarter-construction #spying #orwell #surveillance [00:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theconstructionindex.co.uk | Single platform technology the future of smarter construction [00:50] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [00:50] techrights-news More #surveillance sold as "smart" https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2021/11/09/sinar-mas-land-mitbana-to-introduce-smart-mobility-solution-for-bsd-city.html [00:50] -altlink_03f/#techrights- Cloudflare: thejakartapost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2021/11/09/sinar-mas-land-mitbana-to-introduce-smart-mobility-solution-for-bsd-city.html [00:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thejakartapost.com | Sinar Mas Land-Mitbana to introduce smart mobility solution for BSD City - Business - The Jakarta Post [00:51] techrights-news Those are NOT free; you are being TRAINED to work towards #espionage for a foreign firm that destroys your country. Doing a disservice to yourself and those around you. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/why-online-tech-courses-are-going-free/articleshow/87887312.cms see http://techrights.org/2020/06/10/the-bezos-leaning-ploy/ [00:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timesofindia.indiatimes.com | Why online tech courses are going free - Times of India [00:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AWS is Not GNU/Linux and AWS Certification is a Bezos-Leaning Ploy That Rewards People for Memorising Proprietary Interfaces (Vendor Lock-in) | Techrights [00:52] techrights-news #watchtroll says " #CAFC Ruling that Biogens MS Drug #Patent is Invalid..." More #fakepatents then. #uspto [00:53] techrights-news Refusing To Use Programs Written In Python - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TYiRI_HtLIk #video #invidious #python #programming #code [00:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Refusing To Use Programs Written In Python - Invidious [00:54] techrights-news #apple not secure https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/04/american_diplomats_nso/ #israel #espionage #backdoors #bugdoors [00:54] -altlink_03f/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/04/american_diplomats_nso/ [00:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | American diplomats' iPhones reportedly compromised by NSO Group intrusion software The Register [00:55] techrights-news "Choosing the best #programming language for your web development project is a critical task. An excellent choice facilitates rapid project development and helps your development team integrate essential features with lesser efforts." https://www.analyticsinsight.net/best-programming-languages-for-web-development/ [00:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.analyticsinsight.net | Best Programming Languages for Web Development [00:56] techrights-news #epo #patents on #food https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/darling-ingredients-rousselot-health-brand-obtains-a-granted-patent-from-the-european-patent-office-for-its-simogel-solution-301436437.html [00:56] -altlink_03f/#techrights- Cloudflare: prnewswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/darling-ingredients-rousselot-health-brand-obtains-a-granted-patent-from-the-european-patent-office-for-its-simogel-solution-301436437.html [00:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | Darling Ingredients' Rousselot Health Brand Obtains A Granted Patent from the European Patent Office for its SiMoGel Solution [00:56] techrights-news "Margaret Llewelyn, Honorary Professor of [ #patents ] #Law at the University of Sheffield, best known as one of the foremost experts on #plant breeders rights and #patent law, passed away on 2 November 2021." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/11/obituary-professor-margaret-sophia-moy.html [00:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Obituary - Professor Margaret Sophia Moy Llewelyn (1962-2021) - The IPKat [00:57] techrights-news This Enlarged Board of Appeal which #MarksClerk speaks of is criminally rigged, but they don't want to tell their clients that; they profit from the abuse https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=bb14d227-9172-4f9e-b2e8-9936fbfd699d see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/ [00:57] -altlink_03f/#techrights- Cloudflare: lexology.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=bb14d227-9172-4f9e-b2e8-9936fbfd699d [00:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-M&C Reacts: EPO stays examination and oppositions where plausibility is in issue - Lexology [00:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights [00:58] techrights-news Isn't is incredible that this convicted corrupt firm, #MarksClerk , finds plenty of time for #EPO puff pieces and never writes about the EPO's crimes, including the rigging of the legal process itself? https://www.marks-clerk.com/insights/new-requirements-affecting-epo-applicants-claiming-priority-from-chinese-korean-us-patent-applications/ [00:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marks-clerk.com | New requirements affecting EPO applicants claiming priority from Chinese, Korean & US patent applications ● Dec 05 [01:01] techrights-news 178: Blender 3.0, EndeavourOS, CentOS Stream 9, Steam Deck, NixOS, CrossOver | This Week in Linux https://tuxdigital.com/2021/12/thisweekinlinux-178/ #thisweekinlinux #gnu #linux [01:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-178: Blender 3.0, EndeavourOS, CentOS Stream 9, Steam Deck, NixOS, CrossOver | This Week in Linux - TuxDigital [01:01] techrights-news #Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158740 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:02] techrights-news New Videos: Python Hate, Learning GNU/Linux, and Common Ways Arch Linux & Rolling Releases Break Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158738 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Videos: Python Hate, Learning GNU/Linux, and Common Ways Arch Linux & Rolling Releases Break | Tux Machines [01:02] techrights-news #FreeSoftware : #WordPress , #Strapi , Mentors, and Firmware Conference 2021 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158739 #TuxMachines #freesw [01:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software: WordPress, Strapi, Mentors, and Firmware Conference 2021 | Tux Machines [01:04] techrights-news #Windows Vs #GNULinux : 7 Reasons To Switch To Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158737 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Windows Vs Linux: 7 Reasons To Switch To Linux | Tux Machines [01:05] techrights-news #Intel : Cloud-Hypervisor, Graphics, and Scheduling Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158736 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel: Cloud-Hypervisor, Graphics, and Scheduling | Tux Machines [01:07] techrights-news Hot not-Spot-bot spot: The code behind Xiaomi's CyberDog? #Ubuntu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158597#comment-31975 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Xiaomi's CyberDog Robot Runs Ubuntu | Tux Machines [01:07] techrights-news #OpenHardware /Modding Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158735 #GNU #Linux #Arduino #TuxMachines [01:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:10] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158733 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [01:11] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:13] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/memes-of-the-week-12-3-21-15.jpg [01:13] -altlink_03f/#techrights- Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/memes-of-the-week-12-3-21-15.jpg [01:13] techrights-news Barrys Latest Progress With #EasyOS Development Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158734 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Barry's Latest Progress With EasyOS Development | Tux Machines [01:13] leah who summoned me [01:13] XRevan86 leah: DaemonFC kind of. [01:14] techrights-news Memes https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/memes-of-the-week-12-3-21-15.jpg [01:14] -altlink_03f/#techrights- Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/memes-of-the-week-12-3-21-15.jpg [01:15] leah ooooh linuxmasterrace subreddit. pass [01:15] leah the least clued up people on the planet talking about libreboot. lol [01:15] leah i have plans [01:15] leah but right now i'm working on something else tonight [01:15] leah libreboot has a future, just not on x86 [01:15] MinceR :) [01:15] leah osboot has a good 5+ years left tackling x86 stuff [01:16] leah because osboot allows the Intel ME (and recommends me_cleaner). plus... it's osboot. it has zero restrictions and just pulls in coreboot 3rdparty. you could add fsp/mrc stuff if you want (and i do. see: thinkpad t440p) [01:16] leah on the libreboot side of things, my future plans are on arm and riscv hardware [01:16] leah and arm is on par with x86 these days in terms of performance and usability [01:17] leah x86 is already becoming obsolete [01:20] techrights-news #Blender3d 3.0 Released! How to Install it in Ubuntu via Linux Tarball http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158680#comment-31972 [01:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Blender 3.0 Released as a Massive Update with Many New Features and Improvements | Tux Machines [01:21] schestowitz-TR good to know... [01:22] techrights-news #Valve says #DayZ and five other games are now anti-cheat ready for Linux (and Steam Deck) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158726 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Valve says DayZ and five other games are now anti-cheat ready for Linux (and Steam Deck) | Tux Machines [01:22] techrights-news What Is Apt-Get In Linux? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158727 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What Is Apt-Get In Linux? | Tux Machines [01:24] techrights-news #IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 162 is available for testing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158728 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 162 is available for testing | Tux Machines [01:26] techrights-news Best #FreeSW Alternatives to #Corel DVD Copy Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158729 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Corel DVD Copy | Tux Machines [01:26] techrights-news #GenodeOS Framework release 21.11 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158730 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Genode OS Framework release 21.11 | Tux Machines [01:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [01:30] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 29.46 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 2.95 swarm size (avg): 256.65 [01:33] techrights-news #Pango updates Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158731 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pango updates | Tux Machines [01:34] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158732 #Linux #TuxMachines [01:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:41] techrights-news #git @ Techrights: Approaching 100 Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/04/approaching-100/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/04/approaching-100/ [01:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Approaching 100 | Techrights [01:48] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158741 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:48] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158742 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [01:48] leah arm isn't long term viable though i don't think [01:48] leah riscv will overtake it [01:48] XRevan86 I'm impressed by how quickly RISC-V is taking off. [01:49] leah arm is just another x86. riscv is better because the isa is free [01:49] XRevan86 I knew it's going to happen but it's ahead of schedule. [01:49] leah and because of that, a lot more innovation is in progress (of course, not all implementations of it are necessarily free) [01:50] leah libreboot's current status quo will end fast. that much i do know. i'm jumping off the ship that is x86 [01:50] XRevan86 Maybe it got a boost from all the uncertainty surrounding ARM. It is owned by NVIDIA now. [01:50] leah its future focus will be on other architectures [01:50] leah what uncertainty? [01:51] XRevan86 leah: Who's to say NVIDIA is definitely not going to do something uncompetitive with ARM? [01:51] leah they own arm now? [01:51] leah i'm a bit out of the loop [01:51] XRevan86 leah: They do. [01:52] XRevan86 leah: Also ARM China went rogue. [01:53] leah i see [01:54] techrights-news #TuxMachines is 17.5 Years Old Today Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/04/weds-anniversary/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/04/weds-anniversary/ [01:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Tux Machines is 17.5 Years Old Today | Techrights [01:54] leah yeah and we all know how nice nvidia is [01:54] leah /s [01:55] leah nothing bad will come of it i'm sure [01:57] XRevan86 leah: But ARM China is not under NVIDIA, and that may be even more fun. [01:58] techrights-news Links 4/12/2021: IPFire 2.27 Core Update 162 and #GenodeOS Framework 21.11 Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/04/genode-os-framework-21-11/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/04/genode-os-framework-21-11/ [01:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 4/12/2021: IPFire 2.27 Core Update 162 and Genode OS Framework 21.11 | Techrights [01:58] leah it is concerning indeed [01:58] leah not a lot i can do though, unfortunately [01:59] XRevan86 leah: Well, it's probably why RISC-V is taking over the world ahead of schedule :) [01:59] leah but [01:59] leah yeah i was gonna say that [01:59] leah riscv is not perfect though. but it's miles ahead of everything else in terms of potential [01:59] XRevan86 Not only is RISC-V more commercially viable (no licensing fees), it's also not tied to a ship of questionable status which is ARM, NVIDIA, ARM China, all that stuff. ● Dec 05 [02:00] techrights-news Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158743 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [02:00] leah yeah [02:00] leah cheaper products. and it's an open standard [02:00] techrights-news Improving Gemini by Posting IRC Logs (and Scrollback) as #GemText Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/04/irc-as-gemtext/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/04/irc-as-gemtext/ [02:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Improving Gemini by Posting IRC Logs (and Scrollback) as GemText | Techrights [02:01] leah and there's already a competent boot firmware project centering around riscv: [02:01] leah the oreboot project [02:01] XRevan86 There's always the cost of switching, but it looks like RISC-V is worth it for the manufacturers :). [02:01] leah https://github.com/oreboot [02:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-oreboot GitHub [02:02] leah yeah this nvidia thing might be a blessing in disguise [02:02] leah definitely an opportunity for a riscv coup [02:04] XRevan86 x86 might outlive ARM %) [02:06] leah i see no reason for it not to [02:07] leah amd seems to be on the ball lately [02:10] XRevan86 It's a bit funny that this is the time when Apple decided to go full ARM. [02:10] techrights-news #EPO -Bribed #IAM Media Has Praised Quality, Which Even EPO Staff (Examiners) Does Not Praise Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/04/epo-run-by-suits/ #Techrights #patents #europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/04/epo-run-by-suits/ [02:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO-Bribed IAM Media Has Praised Quality, Which Even EPO Staff (Examiners) Does Not Praise | Techrights [02:13] techrights-news #TuxMachines our sister site for GNU/Linux news started in 2004. Were soon entering 2022. Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/04/weds-anniversary/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/04/weds-anniversary/ [02:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Tux Machines is 17.5 Years Old Today | Techrights [02:14] techrights-news Well soon have 100 files in #Git ; if that matters at all Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/04/approaching-100/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/04/approaching-100/ [02:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Approaching 100 | Techrights [02:14] techrights-news Our adoption of Gemini and of #GemText increases; with nearly 100,000 page requests in the first 3 days of December (over gemini://) its clear that the growing potential of the protocol is realised, hence the rapid growth too Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/04/irc-as-gemtext/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/04/irc-as-gemtext/ [02:15] hyperreal Hi all [02:16] schestowitz-TR 0/ [02:18] DaemonFC I found some sleeping bags. [02:18] DaemonFC They have a big enough hood to fit a full sized pillow in the bag with you. [02:19] DaemonFC So it's an integrated setup assuming you can sleep on your back. [02:19] MinceR https://www.madmagazine.com/sites/default/files/imce/2014/08-AUG/MAD-Magazine-Blose-Ad-Parody_53dff88010e309.59451612.jpg [02:29] hyperreal What Linux or Unix-like OS do you all use? [02:30] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 5.51 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 3.06 swarm size (avg): 256.61 [02:30] DaemonFC https://www.walmart.com/ip/Slumberjack-20F-Shadow-Mountain-Hooded-Sleeping-Bag-with-Removeable-Fleece-Liner-Indigo/926127639 [02:30] -altlink_03f/#techrights- Cloudflare: walmart.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.walmart.com/ip/Slumberjack-20F-Shadow-Mountain-Hooded-Sleeping-Bag-with-Removeable-Fleece-Liner-Indigo/926127639 [02:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Slumberjack 20F Shadow Mountain Hooded Sleeping Bag with Removeable Fleece Liner, Indigo - Walmart.com [02:30] MinceR OpenBSD, Bedrock Linux, postmarketOS, Devuan [02:31] XRevan86 hyperreal: Varies. [02:31] DaemonFC Those should work, and they're on rollback. [02:31] *m___ (~Adium@wumwgtmc7s2sy.irc) has joined #techrights [02:31] XRevan86 openSUSE, Debian, Devuan, Android [02:31] MinceR oh yeah, also Android, in the "Linux" category :> [02:32] DaemonFC With the employee discount and points, I paid $29.53 each after tax. [02:33] MinceR (the Bedrock system in question has Void and Devuan strata) [02:33] DaemonFC I plan on getting some nice pillows that I can put in there with me and then I can just do my usual prop my head up thing with the bed pillows, and throw a pile of blankets over that if it gets stupid cold. [02:34] DaemonFC Devuan doesn't really get all of systemd out does it? [02:34] MinceR i'll check [02:35] MinceR well, the (headless) Devuan on my VPS does appear to be free of systemd [02:35] MinceR (i'm not quite sure about the pedigree of the udevd it's running though) [02:35] XRevan86 Devuan uses eudev and elogind. [02:35] MinceR it does not use elogind on a headless system with no windowing system, though [02:36] XRevan86 MinceR: Naturally. [02:36] MinceR the Devuan stratum on my Bedrock system comes with even less stuff, i only use it to provide a few applications [02:36] MinceR like a qemu that's old enough to still have the ability to set a VNC password [02:36] XRevan86 MinceR: But there is one fun aspect of it: libelogind0 in Devuan provides libsystemd0 [02:37] MinceR yeah [02:37] MinceR which is a bit friendlier upstreamwise than libsystemd0 [02:37] techrights-news techpol + social irc Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-041221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-041221.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-041221.txt [02:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, December 04, 2021 [02:37] MinceR but i'd prefer not to have it at all [02:38] techrights-news techrights irc Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-041221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-041221.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-041221.txt [02:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, December 04, 2021 [02:39] techrights-news boycottnovell irc Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-041221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-041221.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-041221.txt [02:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, December 04, 2021 [02:40] techrights-news techbytes irc Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-041221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-041221.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-041221.txt [02:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, December 04, 2021 [02:40] hyperreal MinceR, XRevan86 nice [02:41] hyperreal If Devuan has GNOME then it probably has some elements of systemd in it. [02:41] hyperreal But I don't think GNOME is in the Devuan repos [02:42] hyperreal or, maybe there are gnome packages for compatibility reasons [02:42] XRevan86 hyperreal: Devuan uses Debian repositories as upstream and merges them with their own package set. [02:42] hyperreal XRevan86 I see [02:42] MinceR it's probably there via the amprolla mechanism (basically it has all of debian and then overrides a bunch of packages) but will probably be blocked from being installed [02:42] MinceR apt is set up so that some packages like systemd are forbidden from being installed [02:43] DaemonFC If there's anything left that doesn't need elogind, it's probably xfce or lxde using lightdm. [02:43] DaemonFC But that would just be a guess. [02:45] techrights-news Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-12-04.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2021-12-04.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:45] hyperreal I use Fedora, basically ground zero for systemd lol [02:45] MinceR my condolences [02:46] hyperreal I like systemd actually, but I also like init system diversity [02:47] DaemonFC Some asshole broke one of the retainers for the air box assembly on mom's car. [02:47] DaemonFC So after I changed the engine air filter, I had to seal that bit up with gorilla tape to make sure that there's no unfiltered air going into the engine. [02:48] DaemonFC That's not the first car I did that with. The Taurus was worse. [02:49] DaemonFC Thankfully, it's something you only have to open up and change out once every few years. [02:49] DaemonFC So that gorilla tape is really really strong stuff. [02:49] DaemonFC It holds up between filter replacements. [02:51] DaemonFC Looking on the Web I see I'm not the only person who has ever done this. [02:51] DaemonFC :/ [02:54] DaemonFC There's not enough suction to pull it in through a small-ish gap between the box and the filter's gasket, so it's not as horrible a "fix" as it sounds. [02:54] DaemonFC Personally I'd just go over to the pick a part, and probably will if it lasts long enough to be my car one day. [02:54] DaemonFC MinceR, She was complaining her heater wasn't working right. [02:55] DaemonFC I put half a gallon of 50/50 coolant in through the overflow tank. [02:55] DaemonFC I asked her when she got it flushed out was. She goes "A couple years ago maybe.". I said, "Well, there's some crud in the tank. A flush might not be a bad idea." Who knows if she will. And I replaced the cabin air filter. [02:56] DaemonFC The heat's working again. [02:56] DaemonFC I told her keep an eye on the coolant. [02:56] DaemonFC Women and cars. :P [02:56] DaemonFC If the coolant gets too low, generally the first sign is an unreliable heater. [02:56] DaemonFC It's at the top of the system. [02:57] DaemonFC But if you have to keep adding coolant too often, you either have a leak somewhere, or worse. [02:59] hyperreal DaemonFC you seem to know a lot about cars :) [02:59] DaemonFC Yeah, owning old cars forever. :P [02:59] DaemonFC I never let anything go until it just blows up on me one day. [02:59] hyperreal Lol ● Dec 05 [03:01] DaemonFC If you let someone work on your car and they check the air filter, someone always ends up breaking the filter box somehow. [03:01] DaemonFC Usually it's the latches. [03:01] DaemonFC You wouldn't think that they would because you'd have to be a complete dumbass to do that. [03:02] DaemonFC But when it's mom, she goes "Oh I took it to Walmart and the guy said he fixed an oil leak.". [03:02] DaemonFC I'm like "What do you mean the guy at Walmart fixed an oil leak?". [03:02] DaemonFC Oh, schestowitz-TR Good news about the car accident back in June. [03:03] DaemonFC Turns out that those two idiots never filed a claim against the insurance. [03:03] DaemonFC I talked to the adjuster and he said that since they never filed, then they just closed it out and won't be raising mom's rates. [03:04] DaemonFC Got me thinking. That tub of lard that went off to the hospital in an ambulance claiming I hurt his back in a 2 mile an hour "collision" that bent up some plastic has some unpaid bills. [03:05] DaemonFC I doubt he ever did talk to an attorney and if he did, the first thing that they would have asked is what kind of a car I was driving. (Sizing it up), and when they found out, they would know I had no money and to just let it go. [03:05] DaemonFC So he can go slip on a banana peel at the grocery store or something I guess. [03:08] DaemonFC The adjuster at mom's company said I should sue them. I said, "Well, I would but considering he's a convicted felon who just got out of the slammer for child abuse and bail jumping who tried to scam you, I doubt I'd get anything.". [03:20] techrights-ipfs-bot Gemini requests since start of month: 135675 total Total number of pages in capsule: 38275 Active: active (running) since Sun 2021-10-10 09:33:45 BST; 1 months 25 days ago [03:21] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 110 GB TotalOut: 35 GB [03:22] techrights-ipfs-bot New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:23] DaemonFC https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1125813/jackie-chan-back-action-branding-us-more-corrupt-china [03:23] -altlink_03f/#techrights- Cloudflare: scmp.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1125813/jackie-chan-back-action-branding-us-more-corrupt-china [03:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scmp.com | Jackie Chan back in action, branding US more corrupt than China | South China Morning Post [03:23] DaemonFC I've really grown to despise Jackie Chan over the last decade or so. [03:24] DaemonFC The US is not "more corrupt" than China. If you talk about how corrupt China is, and you're in China, nobody ever sees you again, so nobody talks about how corrupt China is. [03:24] DaemonFC A great country doesn't have to disappear its critics. [03:26] DaemonFC The Chinese state directing investment over the years has created horrible bubbles and "too big to fail" industries and a lot of shoddy infrastructure that is not well maintained. [03:27] DaemonFC Many people have died from dams bursting alone, and those dams got built by decree of the Communist Party to create jobs and a little bit of hydropower. [03:27] DaemonFC Then they cost a lot of people their lives. [03:27] hyperreal https://openforeveryone.net/articles/system76-reduces-reliance-on-ubuntu-with-pop-os-change/ [03:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openforeveryone.net | System76 Reduces Reliance On Ubuntu With Key Pop OS Change [03:27] DaemonFC And that is pretty corrupt, and I don't think that a guy who was listed in the Panama Papers should be giving morals lessons. [03:28] DaemonFC Then the Communists made Chan an anti-drug ambassador. [03:28] DaemonFC The same year, his son was arrested for smoking marijuana. 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Pure Arch Linux Experience for You | Tux Machines [07:26] techrights-news Its easy to see something is terribly wrong when the people who do the actual work do not agree with the medias praise of their work (a praise motivated by a nefarious, alternate agenda) Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/04/epo-run-by-suits/ #Techrights #EPO #europe #patents | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/04/epo-run-by-suits/ [07:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO-Bribed IAM Media Has Praised Quality, Which Even EPO Staff (Examiners) Does Not Praise | Techrights [07:29] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 16.00 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 27.46 swarm size (avg): 256.43 [07:29] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #PropellerAds Rebuts MPA's 'Libelous' Allegations https://torrentfreak.com/propellerads-rebuts-mpas-libelous-piracy-allegations-211204/ [07:29] -altlink_03f/#techrights- Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/propellerads-rebuts-mpas-libelous-piracy-allegations-211204/ [07:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PropellerAds Rebuts MPA's 'Libelous' Piracy Allegations * TorrentFreak [07:48] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #patent #patents #billgates #monopolies Opinion | From AIDS to Omicron, Pharmaceutical Apartheid Hurts Us All https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/12/04/aids-omicron-pharmaceutical-apartheid-hurts-us-all [07:48] -altlink_03f/#techrights- Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/12/04/aids-omicron-pharmaceutical-apartheid-hurts-us-all [07:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | From AIDS to Omicron, Pharmaceutical Apartheid Hurts Us All | Amy Goodman ● Dec 05 [08:06] *MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:06] *MinceR (~mincer@bringer.of.light) has joined #techrights [08:06] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to MinceR [08:15] techrights-news The Letter EPO Management Does Not Want Applicants to See (or Respond to) Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/05/letter-epo-management-re-quality/ #Techrights #EPO #patents #swpats | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/05/letter-epo-management-re-quality/ @zoobab [08:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Letter EPO Management Does Not Want Applicants to See (or Respond to) | Techrights [08:18] techrights-news 19 Absolute Simple Things About Linux Terminal Every Ubuntu User Should Know Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158745 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [08:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 19 Absolute Simple Things About Linux Terminal Every Ubuntu User Should Know | Tux Machines [08:18] techrights-news Open source mind mapping with Draw.io Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158746 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [08:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source mind mapping with Draw.io | Tux Machines [08:20] techrights-news "I think nobody wants this alway-on smartphone camera, Qualcomm!" https://mastodon.social/@gael/107381935508722226 #surveillance #us #gafam #pentagon #espionage [08:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | : "I think nobody wants this alway-on smartphone cam" - 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Haenel over assault rifle patent - JUVE Patent [10:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Juve - Techrights [10:48] techrights-news #AmySandys has just given an excellent new example of JUVE posting pure spam, or pretence that a firm hiring one person is some major news (it's not even a high-level worker) https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/pinsent-masons-appoints-second-patent-partner-in-amsterdam/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve [10:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Pinsent Masons appoints second patent partner in Amsterdam - JUVE Patent [10:55] *m___ (~Adium@wumwgtmc7s2sy.irc) has joined #techrights [10:56] *tdemin (~tdemin@q4ekxw9w3cfd2.irc) has joined #techrights [10:57] *ybaumy4 has quit (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat) [10:58] *ybaumy4 (~ybaumy@ecdcuc322augq.irc) has joined #techrights [10:59] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@kzpwqnbhz94fg.irc) has joined #techrights ● Dec 05 [11:06] techrights-news Recognition that #patents harm COVID response https://www.iam-media.com/global-guide/innovation-invention-yearbook/2022/article/statement-of-working-it-working #patent #monopolies #greed [11:06] -altlink_fa7/#techrights- Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/global-guide/innovation-invention-yearbook/2022/article/statement-of-working-it-working [11:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Statement of working: is it working? | IAM [11:12] techrights-news Disclaiming Patent Claims Leads PTAB to Grant a Request for Adverse Judgment https://www.natlawreview.com/article/disclaiming-patent-claims-leads-ptab-to-grant-request-adverse-judgment #ptab #patents #uspto #fakepatents [11:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.natlawreview.com | PTAB Grants Request for Adverse Judgment in Patent Claim Case [11:15] techrights-news #Patent extremists who profit from frivolous #litigation with fake #patents cannot stop bashing those who look to remove invalid patents https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/is-the-ptab-unconstitutionally-biased-7214190/ #ptab [11:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is the PTAB Unconstitutionally Biased? | Weintraub Tobin - JDSupra [11:17] techrights-news Oligarchs-run paper promotes the lie that #patents are "properly" https://www.economist.com/business/2021/12/04/a-new-way-of-understanding-the-high-but-elusive-worth-of-intellectual-property [11:17] -altlink_fa7/#techrights- Cloudflare: economist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/business/2021/12/04/a-new-way-of-understanding-the-high-but-elusive-worth-of-intellectual-property [11:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A new way of understanding the high but elusive worth of intellectual property | The Economist [11:18] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.eu/studioartics/status/1467295292458471426#m [11:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://nitter.eu/studioartics/status/1467295292458471426#m ) [11:19] schestowitz-TR " [11:19] schestowitz-TR Alles wat je wilt weten over #Ursulavonderleyen #eu #Orgenesis #gentherapien [11:19] schestowitz-TR techrights.org/2019/12/21/al [11:19] schestowitz-TR " [11:24] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:25] *tech_exorcist has quit (connection closed) [11:27] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@4gtddwxfc3mfn.irc) has joined #techrights [11:28] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.06 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 2.53 swarm size (avg): 256.31 [11:35] techrights-news Mouthpieces of #patent extremists or their paid-for #propagandamill still #lobbying #Germany to allow patents for bots. What next? #Patents for pets? https://www.managingip.com/article/b1vq10wwqkj4pb/german-dabus-ruling-could-plot-road-to-ai-inventorship [11:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | German DABUS ruling could plot road to AI inventorship | Managing Intellectual Property [11:36] techrights-news When "Managing IP" says "sources" it means sponsors. #ManagingIP #corruptmedia #patent #lobbying #propagandamill [11:48] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [11:48] techrights-news "opposition activity at the #EPO provides plenty of food..." https://www.iam-media.com/report/special-reports/q4-2021/article/practitioner-insights #epo grants tons of fake patents http://techrights.org/2021/12/05/letter-epo-management-re-quality/ [11:48] -altlink_fa7/#techrights- Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/report/special-reports/q4-2021/article/practitioner-insights [11:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Practitioner insights | IAM [11:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Letter EPO Management Does Not Want Applicants to See (or Respond to) | Techrights ● Dec 05 [12:08] *aprates has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [12:12] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [12:12] techrights-news The EPOs Web Site is a Parade of Endless Lies and Celebration of Gross Violations of the #Law Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/05/epo-noise-machine/ #Techrights #epo #patents #unitarypatent | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/05/epo-noise-machine/ [12:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Web Site is a Parade of Endless Lies and Celebration of Gross Violations of the Law | Techrights [12:12] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:12] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:13] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:13] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [12:17] techrights-news Far too many #fakepatents from the #EPO these days https://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-releases/cantargia-reports-opposition-against-recently-granted-european-patent-810805043.html #patent #patents #europe [12:17] -altlink_fa7/#techrights- Cloudflare: prnewswire.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-releases/cantargia-reports-opposition-against-recently-granted-european-patent-810805043.html [12:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.co.uk | Cantargia reports opposition against recently granted European patent [12:18] techrights-news Insensitivity at the EPOs Management - Part II: #Patent Office as a #Cancer Techrights http://techrights.org/2015/12/26/epo-and-cancer/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2015/12/26/epo-and-cancer/ [12:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Insensitivity at the EPOs Management Part II: Patent Office as a Cancer | Techrights [12:20] techrights-news Monopolisers (and sometimes trolls), not innovators https://www.finnegan.com/en/insights/articles/considerations-for-innovators-when-navigating-patent-eligibility-on-the-international-stage.html [12:20] -altlink_fa7/#techrights- Cloudflare: finnegan.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.finnegan.com/en/insights/articles/considerations-for-innovators-when-navigating-patent-eligibility-on-the-international-stage.html [12:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Considerations for Innovators When Navigating Patent Eligibility on the International Stage | Articles | Finnegan | Leading Intellectual Property Law Firm [12:38] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [12:39] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [12:39] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [12:48] techrights-news [Meme] Meanwhile in #Austria ... Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/05/vienna-convention-and-austria/ #Techrights #unifiedpatentcourt #unitarypatent #teamupc | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/05/vienna-convention-and-austria/ [12:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Meanwhile in Austria | Techrights ● Dec 05 [13:01] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [13:03] *inky_ (~inky@178.78.130.103) has joined #techrights [13:11] techrights-news The EPOs noise site (formerly it had a news section, but it has not been honest for about a decade) is a torrent of lies, cover-up, and promotion of crimes; maybe the lies are obvious for everybody to see (at least #EPO insiders), but nevertheless a rebuttal seems necessary http://techrights.org/2021/12/05/epo-noise-machine/ [13:12] techrights-news "Von der Leyen calls for #EU discussion on mandatory vaccination" https://www.ft.com/content/6724a23a-0f5d-420d-b2c2-1bd9c9a8b448 Von der Leyen = #slavery http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/albrecht-ladson-von-der-leyen/ [13:12] -altlink_fa7/#techrights- Cloudflare: ft.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ft.com/content/6724a23a-0f5d-420d-b2c2-1bd9c9a8b448 [13:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | Subscribe to read | Financial Times [13:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Understanding Thierry Breton: Little Miss Ladson Goes to Brussels | Techrights [13:15] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:15] psydruid https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/12/01/rockchip-rk3588-benchmarks-show-up-on-geekbench/ [13:15] techrights-news Another fake European #patent h https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/11/30/2342992/0/en/Palisade-Bio-Announces-the-European-Patent-Office-to-Grant-a-Patent-for-its-Lead-Drug-Candidate-LB1148-Providing-Protection-Through-2035.html see http://techrights.org/2021/12/05/letter-epo-management-re-quality/ [13:15] -altlink_fa7/#techrights- Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/12/01/rockchip-rk3588-benchmarks-show-up-on-geekbench/ [13:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Rockchip RK3588 benchmarks show up on Geekbench - CNX Software [13:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Palisade Bio Announces the European Patent Office to Grant [13:16] psydruid bye bye Shintel [13:16] psydruid and ScAMD [13:18] techrights-news Antivaxxers are maybe 0.1% of the population. Same for Hitler apologists. But now we have politicians who want us to think about 30% of the populations is "antivaxxers" and every #trump voter is literally Hitler [13:19] techrights-news When you call everyone "antivaxxers" you do no favour to anybody http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/08/19/covid19-communication-strategy/ [13:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Vaccination is Good, But the Current Vaccination Strategy (of Overwhelming Fear/Hysteria) Will Fail to Convince Sceptical People [13:19] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@gym7pwycgspxa.irc) has joined #techrights [13:21] techrights-news Our government can just phone (not mass-mail) people who reject -- for now -- the #covid19 #patent pool to better understand the REASONS (e.g. "I work from home", "I have a medical condition", " I prefer this other product") to get a better grasp. But #billBC doesn't want to know the facts. It's just #marketing http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/08/19/covid19-communication-strategy/ [13:23] techrights-news Not even 20 million Brits (out of more than 68 million) took a third jab for #covid19 ... how many months before #billBC starts portraying those who are "hesitant".... as if they're against #vaccination in general? #patent #monopolies #greed [13:27] techrights-news 22 million Brits did not receive a pair of #covid19 jabs. I can assure you not even 1% of them are "antivaxxers"... and in fact almost all of them ARE vaccinated, just not with AZ stuff. #patent #patents #monopolies [13:28] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 6.28 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 2.48 swarm size (avg): 256.27 [13:31] techrights-news #uk #covid19 patients in hospital exactly a year ago: 15.7k. Today: about half that number. The jabs do reduce hospitalisation rates, but they do not prevent #coronavirus from spreading. We need better vaccines, but the #patent pools eliminate the incentive to improve. #patents #monopolies [13:33] techrights-news #uk #covid19 patients on ventilator one year ago: 1247. Today: 900. An improvement, but not by much. AGAIN: We need better vaccines, but the #patent pools eliminate the incentive to improve. #patents #monopolies [13:37] techrights-news Although we lose a few battles here and there, overall we're winning the war against #SoftwarePatents because we win the argument https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/12/2/bcs-software-patent-successfully-challenged #swpats @zoobab [13:37] -altlink_fa7/#techrights- Cloudflare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/12/2/bcs-software-patent-successfully-challenged [13:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | BCS Software patent invalidated Unified Patents [13:38] techrights-news #microsoft still attacks #linux with #swpats : " #patent is purportedly related to open source container orchestration systems for automating computer applications, such as Kubernetes." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/11/30/intellectual-ventures-entity-iii-holdings-12-llc-patent-challenged http://techrights.org/wiki/Intellectual_Ventures [13:38] -altlink_fa7/#techrights- Cloudflare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/11/30/intellectual-ventures-entity-iii-holdings-12-llc-patent-challenged [13:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Intellectual Ventures patent challenged Unified Patents [13:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intellectual Ventures - Techrights [13:39] techrights-news #gnu #linux distros still under attack from #swpats http://techrights.org/2020/11/19/patent-trolling-dolby/ #SoftwarePatents #SoftwarePatent [13:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Dolby Patents Are Being Used in Patent-Trolling Activity Against GNU/Linux, But Dolby is Said to Be a GPL Violator | Techrights [13:39] techrights-news #patent lawyers and #cancer ... same team. http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/11/29/patented-tobacco-harm-reduction-is-it-only-for-the-developed-world/ [13:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Patented Tobacco Harm Reduction: Is It Only for the Developed World? - Kluwer Patent Blog [13:40] techrights-news "Spanish Patent and Trademark Office (SPTO) published a draft text of amendments that, among other improvements, admits the protection of pharmaceutical substances and compositions via utility models." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/11/29/draft-amendment-of-spanish-patent-act-aimed-at-admitting-the-protection-of-pharmaceutical-substances-and-compositions-via-utility-models/ [13:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Draft amendment of Spanish Patent Act aimed at admitting the protection of pharmaceutical substances and compositions via utility models - Kluwer Patent Blog [13:42] techrights-news This spammy press release is treated by Google News like a "news site" (Out-Law.com) and JUVE relayed the SPAM, making it seem like a hiring of one person is "news" https://www.pinsentmasons.com/about-us/announcements/pinsent-masons-appoints-fourth-partner-in-amsterdam-with-life-sciences-patent-specialist [13:42] -altlink_fa7/#techrights- Cloudflare: pinsentmasons.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pinsentmasons.com/about-us/announcements/pinsent-masons-appoints-fourth-partner-in-amsterdam-with-life-sciences-patent-specialist [13:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pinsentmasons.com | Pinsent Masons appoints fourth partner in Amsterdam with life sciences patent specialist [13:43] techrights-news With lobbyists-led leadership one might be led to believe that a treaty strictly requiring ratification by the #UK is somehow feasible (even if technically and legally it's moot already) Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/05/vienna-convention-and-austria/ #Techrights #teamUPC #unitarypatent #unifiedpatentcourt | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/05/vienna-convention-and-austria/ [13:45] techrights-news "At first instance, the EUIPOs Opposition Division rejected the opposition in its entirety." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/11/a-tale-of-two-ports-gc-holds-portwo-gin.html #EUIPO is deeply, deeply #corrupt and an utter liability to the #eu http://techrights.org/wiki/EUIPO [13:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | A Tale of Two Ports? GC holds PORTWO GIN to be an exploitation of PDO - The IPKat [13:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EUIPO - Techrights [13:46] techrights-news #euipo = #eu #bribery hub http://techrights.org/2021/09/11/jobs-as-bribes/ #corruption #crime [13:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Expos: The Besieged Baltic States Part XX Top Jobs at EUIPO for Compliant Baltic Officials? | Techrights [13:47] techrights-news Lawyers versus the population, or those who serve to suppress the message of the 'peasantry' https://www.managingip.com/article/b1vp778q112cn1/exclusive-lawyer-that-took-on-banksy-joins-brandsmiths [13:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Exclusive: Lawyer that took on Banksy joins Brandsmiths | Managing Intellectual Property [13:50] techrights-news "This is a #trademark case." But #DennisCrouch has filed it under "Patent" only. Maybe these lecturers cannot tell the difference or simply pretend that those are the same thing. https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/11/genus-species-trademark.html [13:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Genus-Species in Trademark Law Usage | Patently-O [13:52] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:52] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:52] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:52] techrights-news After this edit the English is even worse, LOL https://openwrt.org/bugs?rev=1638702574&do=diff [13:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openwrt.org | [OpenWrt Wiki] Reporting bugs [13:53] *activelow has quit (connection closed) [13:54] techrights-news I might move to #openwrt soon because #bt keeps breaking my home network (for months, their remote updates contain severe bugs) and they remotely reboot the router, dropping all connections, without prior warning or consent. Just like that, unannounced completely. They could at least say WHEN in advance. [13:57] *activelow (~activelow@urbrennxh2mqu.irc) has joined #techrights ● Dec 05 [14:00] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:01] techrights-news "Sandris Laganovskis moved from the Latvian Patent Office to #EUIPO in #Alicante towards the end of 2020." #eu #epo #bribery http://techrights.org/2021/09/11/jobs-as-bribes/ [14:01] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158749 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [14:03] schestowitz psydruid: lol, scAMD [14:06] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [14:06] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [14:06] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [14:11] *activelow (~activelow@4wr2j48cc8cmq.irc) has joined #techrights [14:13] techrights-news " #patent describes the ornamental design for a display screen portion with animated graphical user interface." https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/12/3/2000-for-wepay-global-payment-prior-art #softwarepatents #softwarepatent #swpats [14:13] -altlink_fa7/#techrights- Cloudflare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/12/3/2000-for-wepay-global-payment-prior-art [14:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $2,000 for Wepay Global Payment prior art Unified Patents [14:15] techrights-news #patents on #hevc codecs https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/11/30/etri-reexamination-request-granted #softwarepatents #softwarepatent #swpats http://techrights.org/2015/07/26/hevc-cartel/ [14:15] -altlink_fa7/#techrights- Cloudflare: unifiedpatents.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/11/30/etri-reexamination-request-granted [14:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | ETRI reexamination request granted Unified Patents [14:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | HEVC Cartel is Not News, Only the Names of Backers and the Costs Are New | Techrights [14:17] techrights-news #TeamUPC now uses #JUVE as its #propagandamill https://loupedin.blog/2021/11/juves-survey-respondents-favour-german-and-french-judges-for-the-upc-bench-and-paris-to-replace-the-third-central-division-previously-held-by-london/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve #UPC isn't possible, so they craft bogus 'news' with false assumptions [14:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loupedin.blog | JUVE's survey respondents favour German and French Judges for the UPC bench and Paris to replace the third central division previously held by London - LoupedIn [14:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Juve - Techrights [14:18] techrights-news "The Bill was debated in the UK Parliament on Friday 3rd December. Here's what happened [aside from a whole load of completely unnecessary and tedious oversharing from several MPs about their life stories, or having once looked at a musical instrument *eye roll*]." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/12/copyright-rights-and-remuneration-of.html [14:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Copyright (Rights and Remuneration of Musicians, Etc.) Bill debated in UK Parliament - The IPKat [14:20] techrights-news #FloriaMller takes note of "The App(le) Association's astroturfing"; it's actually a #microsoft front group http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/12/apple-will-most-likely-get-epics.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/Association_for_Competitive_Technology [14:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Apple will most likely get Epic's injunction stayed and reasonably disputes independence of Coalition for App Fairness, but should apply same standard to ACT | The App(le) Association's astroturfing [14:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Association for Competitive Technology - Techrights [14:21] techrights-news When #patents kill https://www.devex.com/news/nurses-file-un-complaint-against-eu-other-countries-over-trips-102211 #patent #monopolies #billgates #covidf19 https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ [14:21] -altlink_fa7/#techrights- Cloudflare: devex.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.devex.com/news/nurses-file-un-complaint-against-eu-other-countries-over-trips-102211 [14:21] -altlink_fa7/#techrights- Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ [14:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.devex.com/news/nurses-file-un-complaint-against-eu-other-countries-over-trips-102211 ) [14:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation [14:23] techrights-news "European #Patent Office had also confirmed the validity of the patent during opposition proceedings," but these tribunals are grotesquely rigged and unconstitutional https://www.floordaily.net/flooring-news/hymmen-wins-patent-infringement-case see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/ [14:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.floordaily.net | Hymmen Wins Patent Infringement Case [14:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights [14:26] *mib_twmb8r (~9a032c6b@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [14:26] *mib_twmb8r has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [14:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:37] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [14:39] *inky_ (~inky@37.252.81.177) has joined #techrights [14:58] techrights-news This ongoing #TeamUPC #propaganda in Ireland begs you to believe that the #UPC is legal and tenable; it's not, due to Brexit and many other key factors. Fake news has become the 'norm'. https://www.lawsociety.ie/gazette/top-stories/2021/12-december/ireland-could-miss-out-on-patent-court see http://techrights.org/2021/08/19/captured-media-telling-lies/ [14:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lawsociety.ie | Warning that Ireland could miss out on patent court [14:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Naming and Shaming Captured Publications That Knowingly and Intentionally Published Fake News About the EUs Unified Patent Court So Far This Week | Techrights ● Dec 05 [15:00] techrights-news #Europe has already become a breeding ground for #patenttrolls https://www.iam-media.com/frandseps/ford-latest-auto-major-be-hit-patent-claims-avanci-member see http://techrights.org/2018/01/14/ericsson-avanci-and-unwired-planet/ [15:00] -altlink_fa7/#techrights- Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/frandseps/ford-latest-auto-major-be-hit-patent-claims-avanci-member [15:00] 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The use of look-a-likes within the context of image rights - The IPKat [16:46] techrights-news These #patents can only lead to more deaths, nothing else ttps://www.globenewswire.com/en/news-release/2021/11/17/2335978/0/en/Nicox-is-Granted-Patent-for-Blepharitis-Product-Candidate-NCX-4251-in-Europe.htm [16:47] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [16:47] techrights-news They mean computer program, not "Hey Hi", but we're living in a generation of buzzwords, misnomers, and liars/lawyers looking to sell sinister agenda for profit https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=f3c983a8-f9a2-4070-8354-82a2d9467172 [16:47] -altlink_1ab/#techrights- Cloudflare: lexology.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=f3c983a8-f9a2-4070-8354-82a2d9467172 [16:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Artificial Intelligence, Innovation and Inventorship - Can AI be an Inventor? - Lexology [16:48] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [16:48] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [16:50] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@73van8zu8scis.irc) has joined #techrights [16:50] techrights-news These #patent pools are death knells to millions of people; it's all about hoarding/plundering taxpayers' money to enrich the likes of investors such as #BillGates https://www.iam-media.com/coronavirus/key-takeaways-mercks-landmark-covid-ip-licensing-deal-the-medicines-patent-pool #patents #monopolies https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ [16:50] -altlink_1ab/#techrights- Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/coronavirus/key-takeaways-mercks-landmark-covid-ip-licensing-deal-the-medicines-patent-pool [16:50] -altlink_1ab/#techrights- Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ [16:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Key takeaways from Mercks landmark covid IP licensing deal with the Medicines Patent Pool | IAM [16:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation [16:52] techrights-news #IAM promotes #extortion with #SoftwarePatents using a "smiley face" https://www.iam-media.com/frandseps/how-next-generation-video-patent-pools-can-balance-interests-and-encourage-new-tech-adoption [16:52] -altlink_1ab/#techrights- Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/frandseps/how-next-generation-video-patent-pools-can-balance-interests-and-encourage-new-tech-adoption [16:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | How next-generation patent pools can encourage adoption of new streaming tech | IAM [16:55] techrights-news #patent #law firms work against you, not for you https://beale-law.com/article/case-report-basf-corporation-ors-v-carpmaels-and-ransford/ and they get away with it... #basf #ransford [16:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-beale-law.com | Case Report: BASF Corporation & Ors v Carpmaels and Ransford Beale & Co [16:58] techrights-news #IAM is no posting pure #SPAM disguised as 'articles' and 'interviews' (this is one of many); #JUVE , IAM, #ManagingIP and other such sites became #spamfarms disguised as "news" sites https://www.iam-media.com/survey/iam-global-leaders/2022/article/katja-sorensen http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IAM [16:58] -altlink_1ab/#techrights- Cloudflare: iam-media.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.iam-media.com/survey/iam-global-leaders/2022/article/katja-sorensen [16:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Katja Srensen | IAM [16:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IAM - Techrights [16:58] *ebin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:58] *ebin (~ebin@dne4qqwj27qau.irc) has joined #techrights [16:59] techrights-news Getting high on #monopolies that the #EPO grants to #narcotics pushers https://seekingalpha.com/news/3773201-zynerba-pharma-pops-4-after-securing-new-european-patent-for-zygel-cbd-gel see http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO [16:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://seekingalpha.com/news/3773201-zynerba-pharma-pops-4-after-securing-new-european-patent-for-zygel-cbd-gel ) [16:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights ● Dec 05 [17:01] techrights-news There is no such thing as "Intellectual Property"; it's a misleading misnomer, just like this book title http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/11/book-review-handbook-of-intellectual_29.html #monopolies #law #misnomers #spin [17:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Book Review: Handbook of Intellectual Property Research [Part 2] - The IPKat [17:03] techrights-news This fluff from #Inventa International mentions the PACE program of EPO, which is likely illegal; after it was exposed in the media the #EPO engaged in creative #revisionism to make it seem acceptable, but it's just more of the usual corruption https://inventa.com/en/news/article/696/africa-patenting-against-the-clock http://techrights.org/2015/10/11/closer-contact-with-major-applicants-leaked/ [17:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Africa: patenting against the clock - Inventa [17:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Leaked: EPO Prioritises Work for Large Foreign Corporations, Discrimination Not Accidental But Centrally Planned | Techrights [17:04] techrights-news MEGATRON is helped by #nytimes to end up "Creating a Lot of Anxiety" https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/29/opinion/omicron-variant-covid.html and #patents contributed to this mess; #patent #monopolies give financial incentive to never end the crisis, just milk it for profit [17:04] -altlink_1ab/#techrights- Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/29/opinion/omicron-variant-covid.html [17:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | The Omicron Variant Is Creating a Lot of Anxiety - The New York Times [17:06] techrights-news #Lawyers for #embargo and not #science ... Can I continue shipping products if I am being sued for #patent infringement? A summary of the Courts considerations https://www.onc.hk/en_US/publication/can-i-continue-shipping-products-if-i-am-being-sued-for-patent-infringement-a-summary-of-the-court-s-considerations [17:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.onc.hk | ONC Lawyers [17:08] techrights-news #Patent #propaganda from #China , misnaming them "IP" and pretending that just granting millions of piece of junk is "innovation"; this is how financial bubbles get created http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/11/the-annual-world-intellectual-property.html [17:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | The annual World Intellectual Property Indicators Report (WIPI) and Chinas IP boom - The IPKat [17:10] techrights-news The Chinese Patent System Does a Fine Job Devouring China, But Sites of the Litigation Industry Are Absolutely Loving It! Techrights http://techrights.org/2018/05/30/swpats-trolls-in-china/ #Techrights #china #cn #patents #monopoles | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2018/05/30/swpats-trolls-in-china/ [17:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Chinese Patent System Does a Fine Job Devouring China, But Sites of the Litigation Industry Are Absolutely Loving It! | Techrights [17:10] techrights-news Chinas Self-Destructive Patent Policy Will Replace Assembly Lines of Products With Assembly Lines of Low-Quality Patents and Lawsuits Techrights http://techrights.org/2018/01/07/china-patent-policy/ #Techrights #china #cn #patents #monopoles | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2018/01/07/china-patent-policy/ [17:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Chinas Self-Destructive Patent Policy Will Replace Assembly Lines of Products With Assembly Lines of Low-Quality Patents and Lawsuits | Techrights [17:10] techrights-news China Tightens Its Knot of Restrictive Rules and Patents Techrights http://techrights.org/2018/01/16/patents-in-china/ #Techrights #china #cn #patents #monopoles| Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2018/01/16/patents-in-china/ [17:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | China Tightens Its Knot of Restrictive Rules and Patents | Techrights [17:10] techrights-news China Bashing is Grounded in Fear (That They Can Simply Do Better Than the West) Techrights http://techrights.org/2020/02/19/china-bashing/ #Techrights #china #cn #patents #monopoles | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/02/19/china-bashing/ [17:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | China Bashing is Grounded in Fear (That They Can Simply Do Better Than the West) | Techrights [17:13] techrights-news Oligarch #bloomberg (or his media apparatus) distracting from #microsoft crimes https://news.bloomberglaw.com/tech-and-telecom-law/eu-lawmakers-pass-strict-new-rules-affecting-big-u-s-tech "Big Tech" is a false narrative used and spread by Microsoft criminals http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/ [17:13] -altlink_1ab/#techrights- Cloudflare: bloomberglaw.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.bloomberglaw.com/tech-and-telecom-law/eu-lawmakers-pass-strict-new-rules-affecting-big-u-s-tech [17:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.bloomberglaw.com | NO TITLE [17:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights [17:14] techrights-news Man #epo articles to come later this month, with exclusives among them. http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO [17:20] DaemonFC WGN reports on more catalytic converter thefts. [17:21] DaemonFC I said, "Well, they're really not going to like what happens if I look out my window and see them cutting off my catalytic converter.". [17:22] DaemonFC schestowitz, I went to a show in Indiana on Friday night. They had a "court jester" who saw me in a mask and pulled me up on the stage. [17:22] techrights-news How new Linux users can increase their odds of success Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158752 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How new Linux users can increase their odds of success | Tux Machines [17:23] DaemonFC He said he thought he would be the only one in a costume, so I said, "Well, you're a court fool and in Illinois only the fools who look like they're in court all the time aren't wearing them.". [17:23] DaemonFC I got a good laugh out of the audience. [17:23] techrights-news What desktop Linux needs to succeed in the mainstream Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158753 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What desktop Linux needs to succeed in the mainstream | Tux Machines [17:23] techrights-news What Is Ubuntu? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158754 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What Is Ubuntu? | Tux Machines [17:24] DaemonFC Nobody knows if they work or not. [17:24] DaemonFC The CDC says here's a study that didn't conclude anything, who knows? Just keep wearing them. Or else! [17:25] DaemonFC It's very hard to get "compliance" when you won't even show a study giving some kind of a figure, you know. [17:25] DaemonFC Like the vaccines. [17:25] DaemonFC schestowitz, Google Now is now floating "anti-Linux" articles that are like a two paragraph "It's hard. Just go back to Windows and let Edge jam its dick up your ass.". [17:26] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:28] DaemonFC "Did you know that Edge can show you other sites while you're shopping?" Scott Evil voice: "Blow me!". Edge: "What was that?" Me: "Oh, uh, show me.". :P [17:28] techrights-news "In this video I try to play along with some of their challenges. Also, they shouted me out and I'm embarrassed AF." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2bhopXsYvQk [17:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Well, at least Linus' printer is working well for him. | LinusTechTips Daily Driver Challenge Part 3 - Invidious [17:29] techrights-news "This breaks down all the simple tasks that Linus and Luke did in Linux. I also show more advanced ways to complete the tasks faster to make you a better user!" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6h2UmKTcCfA [17:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Titus vs LTT - Simple Tasks on Linux - Invidious [17:30] techrights-news Steinar H. Gunderson Leaving MySQL Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158755 #mysql #oracle #psql #db [17:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Steinar H. Gunderson Leaving MySQL | Tux Machines [17:30] DaemonFC schestowitz, I always have really weird dreams when I haven't been sleeping well and then get some sleep. [17:31] schestowitz-TR Google Now? [17:31] schestowitz-TR What is this? [17:31] DaemonFC I woke Mandy up last night because I dreamed I had someone zap me with a defibrillator. [17:32] DaemonFC It caused me to wake up and nearly jump face first out of bed. [17:32] schestowitz-TR blame pfizer ;-) [17:32] DaemonFC It's probably, a lot of it, those magnesium supplements. [17:33] DaemonFC The doctor wouldn't give me any medicine for my blood pressure so I started doing a combination of other things, including cutting salt and taking a magnesium supplement. [17:33] schestowitz http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/04/21/astrazeneca-experiences/ [17:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Message of Concern About AstraZeneca (Which Now Renames Its Products to Dodge Bad Reputation) [17:33] schestowitz " did this to him. That was around the time concerns about blood clots was already becoming a thing, then building up in the press. Then orders were canceled, then the notorious renaming campaigns." [17:34] DaemonFC American healthcare boils down to paying a thousand dollars to go to the doctor so they can invent every excuse in the book to NOT treat whatever you came in for. [17:34] schestowitz "He wakes up at night unable to breathe" [17:35] DaemonFC The message is they'll bankrupt you and then you'll be just as bad off as had you never gone in, and down the money. [17:35] DaemonFC So nobody goes in until it's to the ER for a disaster, and then we get "millennials are making healthcare too expensive by using the ER too much". [17:36] DaemonFC schestowitz, I got unnecessary Penicillin-G shots in my ass a couple of years ago. [17:37] DaemonFC Quest Diagnostics fucked up some lab work and it indicated an infection and then after they gave me the shots, they said "You know you're always going to test positive for this now." and three subsequent tests were all negative. [17:37] DaemonFC So the second doctor I talk to says "Well, then there's no way the first test could have been right then!". [17:38] DaemonFC Quest Diagnostics just prints random numbers and those are your test results. [17:38] DaemonFC They've also made errors on my potassium level, my valproic acid level, and they can't even reliably measure cholesterol levels. [17:38] DaemonFC And they're handling half the COVID results in the US. [17:42] DaemonFC I had to draft up my own demand letter to Quest Diagnostics _and_ open a consumer fraud case against them with the Attorney General. [17:42] DaemonFC And they were sending bills I had paid to collections for my spouse, which is also illegal. I spent 4 months getting bills I had paid off his credit report. [17:43] DaemonFC And that was after I sent the credit bureaus receipts for payment and credit card statements showing payment of the amount owed and a screen print of the confirmation number Quest gave me for paying the bills, and they still refused to take it off until like the third time I filed a dispute. [17:44] DaemonFC I had to call someone at TransUnion and talk about this. [17:44] DaemonFC They're dirty, schestowitz In every sense of the word. [17:44] DaemonFC They're obviously running a lab with some sort of contamination or mislabeling samples. [17:45] DaemonFC And everyone in their billing department is dumber than hell. [17:45] DaemonFC I won't let them treat me for anything serious again until they run a second test to confirm that. [17:46] DaemonFC My brain will be five days dead before I ever trust a doctor or the FDA again. [17:46] DaemonFC It's a wretched hive of scum and villainy, to quote Obi-Wan Kenobi. If you have enough money to pay bribes, your drug gets FDA approval now. [17:47] DaemonFC No matter what it actually does or doesn't do. [17:47] DaemonFC schestowitz, Nearly 150,000 confirmed cases of COVID on Friday in the US. [17:47] DaemonFC And that's with Florida's lies being taken at face value. [17:48] DaemonFC The vaccines obviously don't do shit. [17:48] DaemonFC We're back up to 1500+ confirmed deaths every day, and it would be 1600+ if Florida wasn't lying. [17:49] DaemonFC schestowitz, Regarding earlier... I don't know if Jackie Chan has been in anything lately. I wouldn't go see it if he has. [17:50] DaemonFC Member of the Communist Party of China. Extremely wealthy. Hides wealth from taxation in Panama. CCP ignores this and keeps giving him awards and stuff to help pitch its propaganda. [17:51] DaemonFC Calls United States dirtiest country on Earth even though journalists who embarrass our government are alive and accounted for. [17:51] *koo5_ has quit (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) [17:52] DaemonFC Yeah, how are those dam bursts and melamine baby formula and people choking on coal pollution working out for you, China? [17:52] DaemonFC Those folks are big fucking liars and everyone knows it. The US embassy in Beijing reports the air quality and it's bad, real bad. [17:53] DaemonFC Like, they have their own HEPA air filtration system in the embassy, it's that bad. [17:53] DaemonFC Meanwhile, the Chinese government says that if their own people don't like the smog you can't see five feet in, wear a cloth face mask. [17:53] *koo5_ (~quassel@51.140.155.227) has joined #techrights [17:54] DaemonFC That's a "dirty" country, both in corruption, and actual filth. [17:55] DaemonFC Most of the reason they get pollution that bad is because their government mandates GDP growth no matter what and thus has no environmental protection laws. They build the dirtiest coal plants imaginable to keep industry running so they can make iPhones and other shit, at factories with suicide nets. [17:56] DaemonFC Meanwhile, where I live, if your car has a gas cap that's too loose-fitting, it won't pass emissions. [17:56] DaemonFC But the Democrats still sell exceptions in exchange for bribes. [17:57] DaemonFC Like those two big emitters of ethylene oxide. They managed to pay up the bribes and stall out any government action on it for almost three decades before they had to put some cheap filters in. [17:58] DaemonFC They didn't want any action on it, because as soon as the government admits it's hurting people, the people living around it don't even want the 5% that escapes the filter. ● Dec 05 [18:05] MinceR https://www.madmagazine.com/sites/default/files/imce/2014/07-JUL/MAD-Magazine-Strip-Club-Beach-Tricks_53b2c524cdf2f4.97605494.jpg [18:11] *gde33 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:33] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:34] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:34] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:35] *inky (~inky@178.78.147.246) has joined #techrights [18:37] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [18:40] *tech_exorcist has quit (connection closed) [18:40] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@a5avv33hqqukg.irc) has joined #techrights [18:41] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [18:41] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [18:42] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [18:48] *tech_exorcist has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:48] *tech_exorcist (~tech_exorcist@tqrtt4p8kcxpw.irc) has joined #techrights ● Dec 05 [19:03] *inky_ (~inky@141.136.79.85) has joined #techrights [19:04] DaemonFC Walmart tried to send my order by FedEx to a PO Box, like how does that even happen. [19:05] DaemonFC So I contacted them. They scrubbed the order and initiated a refund and gave me a $10 off coupon for my next order. [19:05] DaemonFC So I ordered those again and sent them to the house with the $10 off coupon. [19:05] DaemonFC How does the biggest company in e-commerce not know you can't deliver to a PO Box with FedEx? [19:05] DaemonFC If their site allows it to go through, then it should at least be possible to deliver the order. [19:06] DaemonFC Then it would go out on a FedEx truck and the driver would toss it somewhere, then I'd have to dispute whether or not it was lost by FedEx with the credit card people./ [19:06] DaemonFC Nope nope nope/ [19:07] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [19:07] DaemonFC Walmart got rid of the Great Value Whole Wheat hotdog buns. [19:07] DaemonFC Now you have to buy the national brand if you want that. Nice. [19:09] DaemonFC I'm making baked beans in the instant pot because I still have 18 pounds of dried pintos left in that big bag. [19:09] DaemonFC So it's hot dogs and baked beans tonight. [19:09] DaemonFC Great way to go through those bacon trimmings I had left from last week. [19:10] DaemonFC MinceR, Now whenever I'm cooking beans I sing Unchain My Heart in the kitchen. [19:10] DaemonFC "Why lead me through a life of misery [19:10] DaemonFC When you don't care a bag of beans for me [19:10] DaemonFC So unchain my heart, oh please, please set me free" [19:10] DaemonFC :) [19:17] DaemonFC We base a lot of our meals around beans, rice, and chicken. [19:17] DaemonFC Throw in some cheap veggies and some common spices and you can do almost anything. [19:17] DaemonFC MinceR, The vet told my mom's friend from work that's the most muscle he's ever seen on a housecat. [19:18] DaemonFC She feeds it organic chicken from the supermarket and it doesn't eat it if it has ever been frozen. [19:18] DaemonFC It knows. [19:19] DaemonFC Mom said the vet asked what she'd been feeding it. I said, "Did she tell him 'Whatever it wants.'"? [19:20] MinceR :) [19:20] DaemonFC I hate FedEx. I never use FedEx when I have a choice. [19:20] DaemonFC When ebay has multiple listings and some say USPS and some say FedEx or UPS, I always use USPS even if it's a little more expensive. [19:20] DaemonFC Because I know I'll get my item. [19:23] DaemonFC Apparently, the 38 year old cat in Texas had been eating chicken, turkey bacon, broccoli, coffee with cream, eggs, and every two days, an eyedropper of red wine. [19:24] DaemonFC That goes against what every vet says. No alcohol for cats. They can't process it. [19:24] DaemonFC I've seen people give their dog some beer. [19:24] DaemonFC It doesn't seem to hurt the dog. [19:24] DaemonFC As long as it's only a little now and then. [19:25] DaemonFC I gave my dog biscuits and sausage and gravy sometimes. [19:25] DaemonFC I agree with MinceR that many dogs are vicious and stupid. [19:25] DaemonFC But mine wasn't. [19:26] DaemonFC If the vicious and stupid dogs were just slightly more vicious and stupid, they'd be on the level of MARISOL. [19:26] DaemonFC She has a vicious and stupid dog and she's stupid enough to let it bite everyone in the family including her children and the obedience instructor and not have it put down. [19:26] DaemonFC Anyway, bbiab. [19:29] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:41] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/21112918 [19:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (6041797) [19:43] schestowitz one of the punchlines many of us had in mind... 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[20:40] MinceR indeed [20:40] XRevan86 Russia has run-off (second tour) for mayor and presidential elections, but not for local elections. [20:40] MinceR still, it's funny how it describes the system in hungary [20:40] XRevan86 So the United Russia FPTP's the heck out of us on the local level. [20:41] XRevan86 Like when a United Russia person goes to represent a district in the City Duma with 35% approval. [20:42] XRevan86 Clearly a majority. [20:46] schestowitz Dima for Duma [20:46] schestowitz Dmitri [20:46] schestowitz how I wish meduza came back 'online' [20:46] schestowitz no English, no RSS [20:47] schestowitz need both [20:50] XRevan86 schestowitz: Nitter RSS is still an option. [20:51] schestowitz it does not contain the stories [20:51] schestowitz only links to some [20:51] XRevan86 At least it has titles and direct links. [20:53] schestowitz direct links? [20:53] schestowitz does nitter remove the tracker links? [20:53] XRevan86 https://nitter.eu/meduza_en/rss must be because there aren't any [20:58] schestowitz intsresting [20:58] schestowitz but that requires coding something new [20:59] schestowitz to retrieve page text for each item, one at a time [20:59] schestowitz "Yesterday, Russias FSB announced the arrest of three Ukrainian intelligence agents. Heres what Meduza uncovered about the detainees. https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/12/03/two-spies-and-a-terrorist" [20:59] -altlink_1ab/#techrights- Cloudflare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/12/03/two-spies-and-a-terrorist" [20:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [20:59] schestowitz so you can access the page, then pull text [20:59] schestowitz still inferior to the real thing, a proper RSS feed [20:59] schestowitz where article body for all items is in one place [20:59] XRevan86 schestowitz: If coding, then there's the Meduza API. [20:59] schestowitz RSS is like an API [20:59] schestowitz and it is universal ● Dec 05 [21:00] schestowitz they have RSS [21:00] schestowitz it's just broken and stuck in the past [21:00] schestowitz they blame caching [21:00] schestowitz if it was simple caching, the problem would be easy to solve [21:03] *x_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:06] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/11/obituary-professor-margaret-sophia-moy.html?showComment=1638691668392#c394047997319874562 [21:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Obituary - Professor Margaret Sophia Moy Llewelyn (1962-2021) - The IPKat [21:06] schestowitz " [21:06] schestowitz Professor Llewelyn was more than just a path-breaking lawyer and prolific scholar. She was involved in the evolution of plant varieties laws. I had the please of meeting her a couple of time in conferences and seminars. A very kind and knowledgeable person. She will be greatly missed. [21:07] schestowitz Bashar Malkawi, University of Arizona [21:07] schestowitz ' [21:08] schestowitz XRevan86: it also gives a nasty American/Saudi firm control over their communications [21:08] schestowitz sorry, I responded in thew wrong channel earlier [21:08] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@tsr57pffuvh3u.irc) has joined #techrights [21:08] schestowitz have just noticed [21:08] XRevan86 schestowitz: They're not fixing the actual feed, so that's the best I've got. [21:09] schestowitz I know, appreciated [21:09] XRevan86 At least it's a very passive use of Twitter, and proxied too. [21:09] schestowitz for now we have more coverage about hungarey than russia [21:09] schestowitz because MinceR shared some feeds [21:09] schestowitz offshoots from hijacked news sites/portals [21:10] DaemonFC Goolag is removing the API to get at video dislikes so that extensions can't easily re-enable them. [21:10] schestowitz XRevan86: but the content is controlled/policed by Twitter [21:10] DaemonFC Another move in Youtube being a spam farm. [21:10] schestowitz i.e. famous criminal Bill Gates, the Saudis who chop journalists to pieces and then high-five putin [21:10] XRevan86 schestowitz: If Twitter actually removes something, Meduza will be the first to report, no? :) [21:10] schestowitz DaemonFC: yes, I know [21:11] schestowitz rianne and I watched a video explaining this move some days ago [21:11] schestowitz Gulagtube makes no sense [21:11] schestowitz they just quit caring about anything but ads [21:11] schestowitz XRevan86: yes, but not in Twitter ;-) [21:12] XRevan86 schestowitz: I am subscribed to a direct Russian feed [21:12] schestowitz good for you, you can read it ;-) [21:12] schestowitz I lost track of Russia politics 4 months ago [21:12] schestowitz *Russian [21:12] XRevan86 > M . [21:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://meduza.io/feature/2021/12/05/bastrykin-poruchil-proverit-pesni-oksimirona-i-noyza-ms- ) [21:12] XRevan86 Which I do. [21:12] schestowitz all I get us russophobic russia from western corprorate media [21:12] schestowitz *is [21:15] schestowitz billbc: something Russia something [something UK does too] [21:16] psydruid western corporate media are generally (non-anglo)phobic [21:16] DaemonFC Biden nominated a bunch of federal judges to open seats in Georgia. [21:16] DaemonFC Makes sense. [21:17] psydruid which is why I am glad English is just one of a number of languages I speak [21:17] DaemonFC Both Senators are currently Democrats. As long as they can get all these judges seated before that changes, there won't be anyone to object. [21:20] schestowitz-TR psydruid: true, also hostile to french, german.. [21:20] schestowitz-TR reflecting the audience's biases [21:20] schestowitz-TR and staff's of course [21:21] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:24] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [21:29] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 6.56 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 17.05 swarm size (avg): 256.12 [21:30] schestowitz-TR [21:16] Biden nominated a bunch of federal judges to open seats in Georgia. [21:30] schestowitz Better if #Biden appoints the judge, Stark, not the Microsofter https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/12/biden-patent-nominees.html see http://techrights.org/2021/11/29/microsoft-vidal/ #uspto #corruption #entryism [21:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Biden Patent Nominees | Patently-O [21:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | President Biden Wants to Put Microsofter in Charge of the Patent Office, Soon to Penalise Patent Applicants Who Dont Use Microsofts Proprietary Formats | Techrights [21:39] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:40] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:40] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:46] DaemonFC schestowitz, I sent Stallman an email about his personal site. [21:47] DaemonFC Hello, [21:47] DaemonFC I have some comments on some of your notes. [21:47] DaemonFC On the issue of COVID vaccines, we've gotten the majority of the US [21:47] DaemonFC population vaccinated at this point. [21:47] DaemonFC Perhaps as many as will agree to be vaccinated without threats of [21:47] DaemonFC losing their job and media propaganda turning them into pariahs among [21:47] DaemonFC their friends and family members, even if they have a legitimate need [21:47] DaemonFC to avoid this vaccine. [21:47] DaemonFC Additionally, polling has shown that Biden's botched vaccine [21:47] DaemonFC "mandates", all of which are enjoined by the courts and are currently [21:47] DaemonFC unenforceable, are causing about 2 people to say they are less likely [21:47] DaemonFC to get vaccinated for every 1 person who says more likely. [21:47] DaemonFC Given that the daily number of US cases is approaching 150,000 [21:47] DaemonFC confirmed cases per day, even as Florida's numbers are a complete lie [21:47] DaemonFC to make DeSantis look better, and given that deaths in the US are [21:47] DaemonFC approaching 1,500 per day again, even with the same stipulation, and [21:47] DaemonFC also given that more than 3/4ths of the US population is "fully [21:47] DaemonFC vaccinated" (whatever that means at the moment), and also given that [21:47] DaemonFC the vaccines seem to wear out quickly, and also given that the virus is [21:47] DaemonFC mutating rapidly, why should their be vaccine "mandates"? [21:47] DaemonFC I took the Pfizer shot three times, and I'm done. There won't be any [21:47] DaemonFC more shots for me. This is the end of it. The third one had truly [21:47] DaemonFC bizarre side effects that went on for an entire month before subsiding, [21:47] DaemonFC including memory loss and chest pains. Even three months later, my arm [21:47] DaemonFC still twitches where I got the injection, and for two whole months I [21:47] DaemonFC had sleep paralysis which has never happened before almost every time I [21:47] DaemonFC went to bed, sometimes striking several times per night. [21:47] DaemonFC I'm not some anti-vaccine crank, I just don't see how it's doing a lot [21:47] DaemonFC of good, or even by what standard we should measure that. [21:47] DaemonFC Pfizer and the others keep going to the FDA wanting people to get Yet [21:47] DaemonFC Another Shot that we just don't know much about, and which doctors play [21:47] DaemonFC off all side effects from as "It's just your imagination. The shot [21:48] DaemonFC doesn't do that!", and most of the actual scientists have resigned from [21:48] DaemonFC the advisory board at the FDA, as between this issue and the $60,000 a [21:48] DaemonFC year Alzheimer's drug that may not do anything that got approved [21:48] DaemonFC despite their objection, their job is actually apparently meaningless [21:48] DaemonFC at this corrupt and captured agency. [21:48] DaemonFC I thought doctors were dismissive and patriarchal _before_ this. [21:48] DaemonFC They're mostly just towing the party line from a bunch of politicians [21:48] DaemonFC that want us to live in an autocratic state where lawmaking is done [21:48] DaemonFC without need for a legislature, and courts are a rubber stamp. [21:48] DaemonFC ---- [21:48] DaemonFC Issue 2 is inflation. [21:48] DaemonFC This one is even easier. Neither myself nor my husband are rich. We've [21:48] DaemonFC scrimped and saved and behaved responsibly to accumulate some savings [21:48] DaemonFC instead of a lot of idiotic debts that obviously haven't done us any [21:48] DaemonFC good in life. We don't get any benefit from inflation. We just get our [21:48] DaemonFC savings stolen from us. If they are benefiting anyone, it's a bunch of [21:48] DaemonFC fools who indebted themselves at interest rates that were too high, and [21:48] DaemonFC then didn't benefit financially from the degrees that they took on the [21:48] DaemonFC debt for. [21:48] DaemonFC It's amusing that to really screw yourself up with debt, you need to [21:48] DaemonFC point to the college you attended that helped you do that. [21:48] DaemonFC Credit card rates are so high, that inflation won't help, and the [21:48] DaemonFC credit card companies can just charge higher rates to keep their [21:48] DaemonFC profits up. Also, if inflation did somehow reward people who are in [21:48] DaemonFC credit card debt, many got there by buying TVs and trips to Disney [21:48] DaemonFC World when they knew they had no money in the bank. [21:48] DaemonFC Some people in my family have filed for bankruptcy (which is a thing), [21:48] DaemonFC but the ones who are on their third and fourth did TVs and Disney [21:49] DaemonFC World. Mine was caused by medical bills and an ex who forced me to [21:49] DaemonFC defend myself from a malicious prosecution that never should have [21:49] DaemonFC happened so the banks, the government, and he got to eat it. If we have [21:49] DaemonFC bankruptcy laws, why do the poor need hyperinflation? What possible [21:49] DaemonFC argument is there for that? [21:49] DaemonFC The banks are never going to "lose" (on the whole) because that's not [21:49] DaemonFC what they do, and any economist who says hyperinflation helps the poor [21:49] DaemonFC might as well have gotten his economics degree out of a box of Cracker [21:49] DaemonFC Jacks. [21:49] DaemonFC Well, the line breaks didn't work right. [21:49] DaemonFC I guess that's better than when your brake lines don't work right. [21:49] DaemonFC schestowitz, The COVID shots have no side effects.... [21:49] DaemonFC But but, what about this list of things going wrong with my body immediately after the..... [21:49] schestowitz-TR all vaccines have side effects [21:49] DaemonFC Doctors: NO SIDE EFFECTS! [21:49] schestowitz-TR my dad told me that too [21:49] schestowitz-TR and yes, he got ajab [21:49] schestowitz-TR the question is, [21:49] schestowitz-TR what side effects [21:49] schestowitz-TR andhow severe [21:50] schestowitz-TR vaccine professionals say so [21:50] schestowitz-TR hospital chiefs [21:50] DaemonFC I'm not sticking around for vaccine shot #4 to find out. [21:50] schestowitz-TR vaccines are a balance of probilities [21:50] DaemonFC And if the state requires it, I'm sure Indiana will appreciate our tax money more. [21:50] schestowitz-TR why do we not vaccinate 100% of people for flu every winter and only old people? [21:51] DaemonFC This fucking broken-ass Democrat state can figure out how it'll pay for pensions that are already 15 cents on the dollar with 20% fewer net tax payers. [21:52] schestowitz-TR not about democrats [21:52] DaemonFC It really is. [21:52] schestowitz-TR anyway, biden alienates more voters [21:52] DaemonFC He does! [21:52] DaemonFC I'm pissed. [21:52] schestowitz-TR many on the side of science and medical professionals oppose these mandates [21:52] schestowitz-TR they don't want these cocktails [21:53] schestowitz-TR not for reasons like patents [21:53] schestowitz-TR but for other reasons [21:53] schestowitz-TR the vaccines have a long way to go [21:53] schestowitz-TR to improve [21:53] schestowitz-TR but then they might eradicate it [21:53] schestowitz-TR no more money [21:53] schestowitz-TR no more shots [21:53] schestowitz-TR so the financial incentive is to maintain this subscription and patent pool in tact [21:53] schestowitz-TR and threaten non-customers [21:54] schestowitz apropos https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/goldman-asks-is-curing-patients-a-sustainable-business-model.html [21:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Goldman asks: 'Is curing patients a sustainable business model?' [21:54] schestowitz not suggesting as conspiracy here [21:54] schestowitz like, they actively try not to solve it [21:54] schestowitz but it does not bother them much [21:54] schestowitz now they use MEGATRON for marketing [21:54] schestowitz another wave of fear-mongering [21:54] schestowitz for mandates and such [21:55] schestowitz-TR it's good that you spoke to RMS [21:55] schestowitz-TR ages ago I cautioned him not to read 'guardian' [21:55] schestowitz-TR their world 'world development' section is gates marketing [21:55] schestowitz-TR and that money affects all oither sections too [21:55] schestowitz-TR inc. technology [21:55] schestowitz-TR it's a toxic POS site [21:55] schestowitz-TR and he links to almost everything there [21:55] schestowitz-TR in stallman.org [21:56] schestowitz-TR they have some splendid stories sometimes [21:56] schestowitz-TR but their purpose is ti lure people out there into all the other propaganda in that site [21:56] schestowitz-TR so we just boycott that entire site... for many years already [21:56] schestowitz-TR maybe 5 [21:56] DaemonFC I used the wrong there [21:56] DaemonFC Ugh... [21:56] DaemonFC Phones. [21:56] DaemonFC They make everyone sound like an idiot. [21:57] schestowitz-TR I think more, I grew dissatisfied 10+ years ago when they bagged bribes from Gates [21:57] DaemonFC But, you know, back to the questions.... [21:57] schestowitz-TR Then they started defaming Wikileaks very VERY badly [21:57] DaemonFC His views on inflation are worse and even more ridiculous than on the vaccines. [21:57] schestowitz-TR you type while speaking on phone? [21:57] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: it's not his views [21:57] schestowitz-TR he read Omidyar PAC [21:57] schestowitz-TR The Intercept [21:57] schestowitz-TR and just took it at face value [21:58] DaemonFC Hyperinflation is bad all around and the stores openly admit they raise prices faster than their costs go up. [21:58] schestowitz-TR then relayed what they had said [21:58] DaemonFC Because what will their customers do without food and diapers and stuff? [21:58] schestowitz-TR Ion at The Intercept IIRC [21:58] schestowitz-TR *Jan [21:58] schestowitz-TR *Jon [21:58] schestowitz-TR Jon Swartz IIRC [21:58] DaemonFC You know how fast condoms have been going up in price? [21:58] DaemonFC They now cost over 3.5 times as much as they did in 2006. [21:59] DaemonFC People say "Well, all of those condoms people throw everywhere! [21:59] DaemonFC I would much, MUCH, rather find the occasional parking lot condom than have that person not use one. [21:59] schestowitz-TR some put them in the dishwasher [21:59] schestowitz-TR and they have to caution them not to [21:59] schestowitz-TR tbh, I think you can reuse them [21:59] schestowitz-TR just let it go sterile [21:59] schestowitz-TR but to clean these would be hard [21:59] DaemonFC Yeah, the dishwasher condoms thing is because they cost a lot. [21:59] *schestowitz-TR does not use them ● Dec 05 [22:00] DaemonFC If you are going to put them in the dishwasher, you should use cold water and no detergent. [22:00] schestowitz-TR neither them nor dishwashers [22:00] DaemonFC That way it's just rinsing them and it goes down the drain. [22:00] schestowitz-TR dishwashers are hard to install, maintain and they save little for a family of only 2 people [22:00] DaemonFC Of course, this assumes you're using them as birth control with the same partner, as one of your methods, and you don't use the same one too many times by accident. [22:01] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: yes, well, they can be reused in theory (never tried it) [22:01] schestowitz-TR but I'd dread thinking some people put them in dishwashers [22:01] schestowitz-TR along with dishes like cups I might sip tea from [22:01] DaemonFC How fast do you go through condoms that you need to put them through the dishwasher to save money? [22:01] DaemonFC I might go through one package every year. [22:01] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [22:02] DaemonFC It's not like it's costing me a million dollars. [22:02] schestowitz-TR ok, subject change [22:02] schestowitz-TR the troll is getting hard [22:02] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [22:02] *rianne (~rianne@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [22:02] MinceR too much information [22:02] schestowitz-TR and he likes it when people talk about sex [22:02] DaemonFC That was on my mind when the CDC posted this. [22:02] schestowitz-TR back to tech and rms [22:02] DaemonFC It was one reason why I laughed so much. [22:02] schestowitz-TR so your email to him is reasonable [22:02] schestowitz-TR I've just told rianne, she asked if he responded [22:03] schestowitz-TR it's so long that he might not even respond [22:03] DaemonFC He usually does after a day or two. [22:03] schestowitz-TR which is ok, provided he at least reads it [22:03] DaemonFC Well, it was feedback more than anything. [22:03] DaemonFC The Guardian is not a great place for news. Not the worst, but they all have spin. [22:04] schestowitz-TR right [22:04] schestowitz-TR not the worst [22:04] schestowitz-TR but dangerous because [22:04] schestowitz-TR 1. it attracts leftists [22:04] schestowitz-TR 2. it has more credibility among them [22:04] schestowitz-TR it makes it more effective an attack vector [22:04] schestowitz-TR like inciting rms against assange [22:04] schestowitz-TR with fox you see what you get [22:05] MinceR (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/9z6gyw91x7v61.png [22:05] -altlink_1ab/#techrights- Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/9z6gyw91x7v61.png [22:05] schestowitz-TR with guardian they don't inform you ford, rockefeller and gates foundations are the sponsors [22:05] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Fox News, the other day, quipped that if you cut off the food stamps, people would take jobs because hunger compelled them to, and then the guest remarked "Yeah, you know, they feed military dogs at night because a hungry dog is an obedient dog.". [22:05] MinceR https://i1.wp.com/www.boingboing.net/images/_wikipedia_en_a_a7_Fnord_logo.jpg [22:05] DaemonFC I'm like "The fuck did I just read.....?". [22:06] DaemonFC "A hungry DOG...." [22:06] schestowitz forkbombe: yo dawg [22:06] DaemonFC They want obedience, and they want to use hunger to get it. This is fucking sick. [22:06] schestowitz forkbombe: sorry, wrong autocomplete [22:07] schestowitz DaemonFC: Chomsky spoke about it ages agop [22:07] schestowitz in relation to thinks like student debt [22:07] schestowitz you can neutralise young people [22:07] schestowitz boot to the neck at age 19 already [22:07] schestowitz they start driving, then they start obeying [22:07] schestowitz or lose everything [22:07] schestowitz no activism and unions and stuff [22:07] schestowitz or... join the army [22:08] schestowitz "sir yes sir" [22:08] schestowitz then, a decade later, no tuition fees for you [22:09] DaemonFC Republicans used to at least pretend to be concerned about poverty like, "We want people off food stamps and we want to get them off food stamps by finding them a good job, and then they won't need food stamps." and that was like, you know, 1970-2010. Today it's like, "Well, if we starve those damned dogs, we'll probably get more work!". The "dog whistle" is gone. [22:10] DaemonFC Which is why I vote for Democrats, Greens, and Libertarians. [22:10] DaemonFC What else do you do? [22:10] DaemonFC schestowitz, Walmart starts out at $17 an hour now. I decided that unless I really am in there for only 1 thing or something, I go to a cashier. [22:11] DaemonFC They want to make the shopping experience utter hell to save themselves money with those self-checkouts. [22:11] DaemonFC And then in return for them saving money, your grocery bill skyrockets faster than they can even be bothered to redo the shelf labels. [22:11] DaemonFC So fuck this, I'm out. [22:11] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@y73dbcj7dvbju.irc) has joined #techrights [22:12] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [22:13] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: yup [22:13] schestowitz-TR universal issue, they control ASDA here [22:14] schestowitz-TR for us, the workaround is to buy about ~60% discounts [22:14] schestowitz-TR mostly the foods [22:14] schestowitz-TR as they have expiry dates [22:14] schestowitz-TR you can barely find things like discounted toothpaste [22:14] schestowitz-TR usually discounted for other reason like damage packages, out of life product line [22:14] DaemonFC you can barely find things like discounted toothpaste [22:14] schestowitz-TR for food we can get discounted almost everything [22:15] DaemonFC Yeah, if you can snatch some up off the clearance rack, go for it. [22:15] DaemonFC Sometimes you can get a good iBotta rebate. [22:15] schestowitz-TR we once got about 30 tubes [22:15] schestowitz-TR should have taken more [22:15] DaemonFC So I buy 5 tubes or whatever to max out the $10 rebate. [22:15] schestowitz-TR 50 pence, high priced colgate stuff that sells for about 200 otherwise [22:15] DaemonFC If nobody is going to bribe me, I switch over to the bargain brand that's like $1 a tube. [22:15] DaemonFC Like Aim. [22:16] DaemonFC There's really not much difference. [22:16] schestowitz-TR $1 a tube is a lot [22:16] DaemonFC It's targeting the MARISOLs for the most part. [22:16] schestowitz-TR that's like 80 or 90 pence [22:16] schestowitz-TR you can get the more generic colgates here for 67p or less [22:16] DaemonFC $1 for 6.4 ounces, I think. [22:16] schestowitz-TR in some places we used to find them at 50p, but that was ages ago and we took loads... [22:16] DaemonFC Unless the shrink ray hit since I stockpiled Colgate. [22:16] schestowitz-TR colgate sells for as much as possible [22:17] schestowitz-TR so in poor people's areas and shops they stock the "lesser" products [22:17] DaemonFC Yeah, but then they're like "$2 off per tube with iBotta". [22:17] schestowitz-TR either they sell cheaply or sell none (competition) [22:17] DaemonFC So I switch toothpaste a lot because I buy on price more than brand. [22:17] schestowitz-TR it's an upselling strategy that they use worldwide [22:17] DaemonFC Cat litter? Stick to the store brand. [22:17] DaemonFC Arm & Hammer and Purina are the same thing for 80% more money. [22:24] schestowitz-TR Purina lol [22:24] schestowitz-TR purrr [22:26] *tech_exorcist has quit (Quit: see you tomorrow) [22:26] *phebus (~phebus@f95gnd3zj7732.irc) has joined #techrights [22:30] DaemonFC Yeah. [22:30] DaemonFC I stocked up on Purina One cat food a while back. [22:31] DaemonFC iBotta rebates... [22:31] MinceR purine [22:31] DaemonFC I'm one of those people who switches brands all the time over rebates or coupons then goes back to what I normally buy. [22:32] DaemonFC Walmart puts a lot of milk rebates on iBotta for 10-25 cents. But Mandy is lactose intolerant and has to use lactose-free milk which costs a ton and comes in the half gallon. [22:33] DaemonFC So between me going through a gallon a month or so in coffee and tea, and him going through a couple of gallons in tea, I can always use all of those up. [22:34] DaemonFC Any Brand or Any Receipt are never much money, but they are some and they get you to those $20 minimum cash-outs faster. [22:34] DaemonFC I take it as Walmart gift cards. [22:34] DaemonFC iBotta used to let you give it to Paypal and then Paypal would put it in your bank. [22:35] DaemonFC Now iBotta wants your bank account numbers with something called Plaid. [22:35] DaemonFC Nope. [22:36] DaemonFC MinceR, Now there's some for "Purina Beyond dried cat food" I don't know what this is. [22:36] DaemonFC But $3 back per bag means they may be eating that for a while. [22:38] DaemonFC Two cats go through food pretty fast. [22:38] DaemonFC If you don't get too carried away and just rotate it by date and make sure to buy the furthest expiration date out at the store, you don't deal with spoilage. [22:38] schestowitz-TR humans more so [22:38] schestowitz-TR re [22:38] Two cats go through food pretty fast. [22:39] MinceR DaemonFC: is it fake meat? [22:39] schestowitz-TR villburger [22:39] schestowitz-TR *bill [22:39] DaemonFC Bill's Burgers [22:39] DaemonFC LOL [22:39] schestowitz-TR vealburger ;-) [22:39] DaemonFC No. [22:39] schestowitz-TR bill does not eat cows [22:39] DaemonFC It's real, although I'm sure they're not rendering their best catch into cat food. [22:39] schestowitz-TR cheap people do [22:39] schestowitz-TR he wants calf [22:40] schestowitz-TR "BRING ME VEAL!!" [22:40] schestowitz-TR vealburgers [22:40] schestowitz-TR the typo turned into a joke [22:40] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I always call those beyond beef things "Bill's Burgers". [22:40] DaemonFC You all want some of Bill in you. Be honest. [22:40] schestowitz-TR he has patents [22:40] schestowitz-TR cows farts [22:40] DaemonFC If it's good enough for his own daughter. [22:40] schestowitz-TR so don't eat cows [22:40] schestowitz-TR pay bill for patents [22:41] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: "you remind me of my daughter" [22:41] schestowitz-TR -another passenger of Lolita Express [22:41] schestowitz-TR (Trump_ [22:42] DaemonFC Ghislaine Maxwell is trying to say she was just another victim of Epstein and now of a witch hunt. [22:42] DaemonFC In a way she's not wrong. [22:42] schestowitz-TR maybe she wanted a Nobel prize [22:43] schestowitz-TR and other prizes [22:43] schestowitz-TR "trophies" [22:43] DaemonFC You don't see Donald Trump, Prince Andrew, and Bill Gates in court over this. [22:43] schestowitz-TR rotting ol' bill [22:43] schestowitz-TR trafficking women out of microsoft for sex [22:43] DaemonFC They threw her to the wolves. [22:43] schestowitz-TR while brad smith cautions him to stop it [22:44] schestowitz-TR and bill gets them to sign ndas [22:44] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: yes [22:44] schestowitz-TR as noted before [22:44] schestowitz-TR as if there was guidance not to mention them [22:44] schestowitz-TR fore the case to be public [22:47] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/21120540 [22:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (6059059) [22:48] schestowitz-TR ??? [22:49] MinceR missiletoad [22:50] schestowitz-TR heh [22:50] schestowitz-TR is that actually a word?? [22:50] schestowitz-TR mistletoe? [22:51] MinceR yes, a pun on mistletoe [22:51] schestowitz-TR looks like it hangs off some lingerie [22:51] schestowitz-TR unless it's paper decoration [22:53] schestowitz what was that computer game with rocket bunny or similar? [22:53] schestowitz jack? [22:54] schestowitz not https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_(Marvel_Cinematic_Universe) [22:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Rocket (Marvel Cinematic Universe) - Wikipedia [22:54] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_Raccoon [22:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Rocket Raccoon - Wikipedia ● Dec 05 [23:00] schestowitz https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/12/01/covid-omicron-variant-live-updates/ [23:00] -altlink_1ab/#techrights- Cloudflare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/12/01/covid-omicron-variant-live-updates/ [23:00] schestowitz scaring people [23:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Omicron is now in the U.S., with first case found in California - The Washington Post [23:00] schestowitz omg, organisms evolve [23:00] schestowitz omg, we gave them another new name [23:00] schestowitz not a number [23:00] schestowitz https://www.capradio.org/articles/2021/11/29/california-coronavirus-updates-november-2021/ [23:00] -altlink_1ab/#techrights- Cloudflare: capradio.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.capradio.org/articles/2021/11/29/california-coronavirus-updates-november-2021/ [23:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-California coronavirus updates: Omicron could become dominant strain in US, UC Davis infectious disease expert says - capradio.org [23:01] *ciphrCat has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:03] *ciphrCat (~ciphrCat@v75kd7krrqfvs.irc) has joined #techrights [23:07] MinceR 05 235336 <~schestowitz> what was that computer game with rocket bunny or similar? [23:07] MinceR Jazz Jackrabbit [23:10] *sebsebsebseb (~sebastian@xi9i92zud7pn6.irc) has joined #techrights [23:10] sebsebsebseb schestowitz: MinceR hi have you seen this? https://fossforce.com/2021/12/eff-argument-in-patent-troll-case-to-be-livestreamed-on-monday/ [23:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | EFF Argument in Patent Troll Case to Be Livestreamed on Monday - FOSS Force [23:11] schestowitz-TR hi sebsebsebseb [23:11] schestowitz-TR MinceR: yes! [23:11] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_Jackrabbit [23:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Jazz Jackrabbit - Wikipedia [23:11] sebsebsebseb was that to mincer the yes ? [23:11] sebsebsebseb intersting that the EFF case thing will be on youtube live [23:12] sebsebsebseb that get the oppertunity to see that [23:12] schestowitz-TR they choose Gfam [23:12] schestowitz-TR FACEBOOK, GOOGLE [23:12] schestowitz-TR sometimes ZOOM [23:12] schestowitz-TR never free software [23:12] schestowitz-TR and they attack RMS [23:12] MinceR sebsebsebseb: i haven't [23:12] schestowitz-TR today's RMS is a bunch of iCultists [23:12] schestowitz-TR with some geeks from the older generation [23:12] schestowitz-TR whom they remove [23:12] schestowitz-TR "zealots" [23:13] MinceR i think you picked the wrong TLA there :> [23:13] schestowitz-TR [23:12] today's RMS is a bunch of iCultists [23:13] schestowitz-TR I meant EFF [23:13] sebsebsebseb schestowitz-TR: what you mean they pick someting propritary to put this case on ? [23:13] MinceR :> [23:13] schestowitz-TR it rhymes [23:13] schestowitz-TR sebsebsebseb: they take money from Gulag [23:13] sebsebsebseb what's that ? [23:13] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2019/01/20/google-internship-eff/ [23:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EFF Must Return That Internship Money to Google or It Would Disgrace the Patent Reform Movement (by Association) | Techrights [23:14] sebsebsebseb oh [23:14] MinceR schestowitz-TR: there's also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwOEnSdARvQ [23:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jazz Jackrabbit Doom - Doom Mod Madness - YouTube [23:15] MinceR :> [23:15] sebsebsebseb MinceR: Apple [23:15] schestowitz-TR wth? [23:15] schestowitz Jazz Jackrabbit Doom - Doom Mod Madness - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=fwOEnSdARvQ [23:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Jazz Jackrabbit Doom - Doom Mod Madness - Invidious [23:16] schestowitz-TR nice mod [23:16] schestowitz-TR wad [23:18] schestowitz-TR a wad of cache :-) [23:18] MinceR sebsebsebseb: IBM [23:18] sebsebsebseb MinceR: Redhat IBM [23:19] sebsebsebseb schestowitz-TR: how aout Nivida trying to buy out ARM what you think to that ? [23:19] schestowitz-TR Racist IBM [23:19] schestowitz-TR armalite [23:19] schestowitz-TR NVIDIA = hARM [23:19] sebsebsebseb harm ha ha [23:19] schestowitz-TR better than sh*tel and scAMD [23:20] sebsebsebseb whos that ? [23:20] schestowitz-TR x8sex [23:20] sebsebsebseb MinceR: Apple Basnana Pair [23:20] sebsebsebseb Melon [23:20] schestowitz-TR f*cking with your motherboard [23:20] schestowitz-TR PSP and ME [23:21] schestowitz-TR Apple has ahem 1 [23:21] sebsebsebseb MinceR: Apple is your favourite fruit out of those though oh yeah :P [23:22] schestowitz-TR the princess choked on an apple [23:22] schestowitz-TR not artichoke [23:22] schestowitz-TR that should be a warning [23:22] schestowitz-TR is apple that witch? [23:23] MinceR sebsebsebseb: is it? [23:24] sebsebsebseb MinceR: yep Apple Apple Apple [23:24] sebsebsebseb I don't like Apples much the fruit [23:24] sebsebsebseb i don't llike apple juice that much either [23:25] sebsebsebseb MinceR: but you love anything with the name Apple in it :D [23:25] MinceR interesting. [23:27] *gde33 (~gde33@84-106-154-98.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights [23:27] *altlink_1ab has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:28] schestowitz-TR appleis good for humour [23:28] schestowitz-TR we live among people who pay $2000 for a PC [23:28] schestowitz-TR which costs maybe $200 to make [23:28] schestowitz-TR and does not work well [23:28] MinceR "you call that a computer? LOL!" [23:28] schestowitz-TR made in sweatshops, but they delude themselves into this "made in usa" myth [23:29] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.23 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 17.86 swarm size (avg): 256.08 [23:38] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, "OMICRON" is in a third of the states already, confirmed. More, of course, unofficially. [23:38] DaemonFC Gee, how about that Travel Ban. [23:38] DaemonFC Shithole countries. [23:38] DaemonFC Donald Biden [23:40] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Most of the office space in the Sears Tower is empty. [23:40] DaemonFC And now United Airlines is letting some of their leases expire and sending 900 office workers to Arlington Heights permanently. [23:40] DaemonFC They're leaving Chicago. [23:40] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [23:41] DaemonFC Big empty buildings, boarded up restaurants, $100 to see the aquarium for 2 hours. Twice as many shooting. 4x as many carjackings, 300% more rape. [23:41] DaemonFC Lori Lightfoot's accomplishments. [23:45] schestowitz-TR only chicagho? [23:45] schestowitz-TR typo [23:45] schestowitz-TR not intentional [23:45] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #techrights [23:47] DaemonFC Chicago has actually been ruined even by Illinois standards. [23:48] DaemonFC The Democrats have one party control over Lake County too and we "only" lost 12% of our restaurants. Chicago lost 27%. Permanently closed, per Yelp. [23:49] *psydruid goes smashing pumpkins [23:49] DaemonFC I think what's keeping them in line a bit outside of Chicago is they won many of those County Board seats by a handful of votes. [23:49] DaemonFC If they go full tilt crazy, they lose their re-election. [23:52] schestowitz-TR CHicago is a bigger city [23:52] schestowitz-TR it relies on tourism and business in town [23:52] schestowitz-TR so you cannot so simple compare it to some other places in the same state [23:52] schestowitz-TR also compare NYS to NYC [23:52] schestowitz-TR restaurants enjoys the boom of travel [23:52] schestowitz-TR where people lack a kitchen and eat out instead [23:53] DaemonFC Yeah, there's nothing to do up here. [23:53] schestowitz-TR maybe good [23:53] schestowitz-TR quiet and calm [23:53] DaemonFC Of course, with Preckwinkle and Lightfoot SQUUUUEEEEEEZING what's left of the tourists, I'm sure that'll work well for them. [23:54] schestowitz-TR and lower rent [23:54] schestowitz-TR we have a stadium across the road [23:54] schestowitz-TR where many covidiots go like it's their mecca [23:54] DaemonFC Yeah, really cheap rent here because of white flight. [23:54] DaemonFC If you want cheap rent, figure out where the white people won't go. [23:54] schestowitz-TR you got cause and effects in reverse [23:55] schestowitz-TR you could say, [23:55] DaemonFC Let Mr. Gafam go bid up the rent in a neighborhood where they make $800,000 a year but it only gets you what $100,000 would in Indiana. [23:55] schestowitz-TR where people who cannot afford normal rent go [23:55] DaemonFC Yeah, concentrated poverty. [23:56] DaemonFC I'd recognize it anywhere. [23:56] DaemonFC And Goolag thinks that you can go in there and threaten people. [23:56] schestowitz-TR that's what gentrification is for [23:56] *sebsebsebseb has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [23:56] psydruid the idea is to make $800,000 for a few years, save up as much as possible and get the hell out of there [23:56] schestowitz-TR if your mind still works [23:57] schestowitz-TR and if you have much of use to do wiuth the money [23:57] schestowitz-TR a rolex is worthless or worth as much as any watch [23:57] schestowitz-TR and you might have urned 20 years of your life by then [23:57] schestowitz-TR *burned [23:57] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I just don't see why we would try to get a $1,400 apartment if that means we have to find another $500 a month somewhere. [23:57] DaemonFC It seems more productive to just stay within yourself. [23:58] schestowitz-TR it's different when you have children [23:58] schestowitz-TR and they too have demands [23:59] DaemonFC Most people no longer want children. [23:59] DaemonFC Uncle Bill does. [23:59] DaemonFC Too bad his three most productive getters are dead, on trial, and living with mom in Phoenix.