●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, April 06, 2022 ●● ● Apr 06 [00:05] psydruid if macOS wasn't total junk before, it definitely is now [00:06] psydruid I would just scrap the entire operating system [00:07] MinceR apple has been total garbage ever since they decided to make the apple III [00:08] *kingoffrance (~xx@4mmu4fx6g3jvs.irc) has joined #techrights [00:11] MinceR also, the lisa [00:11] DaemonFC Bethesda games are such a shitfest that it's easier to ZIP the folder I installed them into than to install them again once I've distro hopped and remember exactly what I did to make them work the last time all over again. [00:11] DaemonFC Just unpack them somewhere with all of the hacks and point Lutris at them. [00:12] MinceR these already show off what current crApple does: extremely shitty design (as exemplified by the self-melting apple III) and extreme disdain for their customers (as exemplified by the designed-for-idiots lisa) [00:12] DaemonFC Fedora 36 Beta works pretty well on the 2016 Lenovo Yoga 900 ISK2. [00:12] DaemonFC I might try it for realsies on this ThinkBook. [00:15] DaemonFC They do tend to have good releases and bad releases, and when they're bad, they're really bad. [00:15] DaemonFC No punishment for pushing out a bad release when you don't have to maintain it for 5 or 10 years. [00:15] MinceR i don't think there's ever going to be a good release of fedora since they switched to systemd [00:16] kingoffrance fedora had a little curlie / right in the middle of its forehead / when it was good it was very very good / and when it was bad it was horrid [00:18] kingoffrance [00:19] activelow RedHat9 was the first Linux i tried, and the reason to not use Linux (year 2002) [00:19] activelow why would i want to use this, if i didn't want a Windows style system? [00:20] activelow it was OpenBSD which lured me into, the benefits of a *nix [00:20] kingoffrance yeah, that is how i was with mandrake. went to freebsd [00:20] DaemonFC Red Hat 9 was the one where they did that "release" of GCC, right? [00:20] activelow it was all there, a clean build system, easy installation, some security [00:21] psydruid Fedora Core 1 made me switch all computers at home to Slackware [00:21] DaemonFC The one that the FSF had to make a statement about, because Red Hat pulled it out of the development repository. [00:21] psydruid and I've never run it since outside of QEMU [00:21] kingoffrance not that i had any problem with mandrake, but there is "i want to learn" and "i want someone to do it for me" distros [00:21] *matey (~matey@7zmmwv4qqhr7u.irc) has joined #techrights [00:21] DaemonFC "If you compile anything with this, it's unlikely that it will work later unless you use static linking." [00:21] DaemonFC Which is exactly what people who did use it had to do, for ten YEARS. [00:22] DaemonFC :) [00:22] kingoffrance you talking about gcc 2.96, or was that different? [00:22] activelow slackware, don't remember why i played with this; iirc linux had some benefit with hardware support, and i followed "linux from scratch" with hardening patches, and then fiddled this into slackware packages [00:23] DaemonFC yeah..... [00:23] DaemonFC gcc296-compat LULZ [00:23] matey schestowitz-TR matey: did I use those actual words? [00:23] matey i can find the quote [00:23] matey i actually spent a minute looking but ill find it later [00:24] matey it was in the past 6-7 months (this year has flown by, 1/3 in already) [00:24] activelow with gcc-4.7/g++ none of the GTK desktop stuff is available (although GTK isn't written in c++, i might add); don't free brave enough to try gcc2.96 [00:24] activelow *feel [00:25] activelow with RedHat 9 the RPM package management was annoying, it is a huge burden [00:25] kingoffrance well i just didnt know because red hat 9 ....they reset versino numbers at some point, since rhel 4 rhel 5 rhel 6 ...not sure where the "enterprise" is now .....lol [00:25] kingoffrance so, there was the old "red hat 9" and i guess another one coming up now lol [00:25] activelow yes, the old RedHat9 [00:25] kingoffrance :) [00:26] activelow doubt anything has changed since then, concerning RPM style package management [00:26] MinceR enterprise is what you need in order to have people stupid enough to decide to run that crap [00:26] kingoffrance enterprise is when you want to pay someone to take the fall [00:26] kingoffrance :) [00:26] MinceR :> [00:27] psydruid and that someone still doesn't know what he's doing [00:29] activelow the benefit of any RedHat for practical use is: LDAP/Kerberos, if it is implemented correctly with administrative tools [00:30] activelow since this is what admins want, in practice, which they get, with IBM Wintel: LDAP/Kerberos ("active directory") [00:32] activelow in combination with groupware, Outlook, Exchange and all that, which RedHat too focused on [00:33] activelow and where am I nowadays? back to mutt-mailer for more than 5 years. [00:34] DaemonFC Fedora doesn't ship with a program for Mail. [00:34] DaemonFC Oh well. That's easily fixed I suppose. [00:34] DaemonFC Never could figure out why Evolution is so slow at syncing IMAP folders. [00:34] matey when i downloaded wikipedia (en) compressed, it was about 15gb [00:34] matey that was less than 10 years ago [00:35] DaemonFC It's 96 GB or so right now I'm told. [00:35] matey compressed? [00:35] matey i know compressed isnt a fixed rate, but that sounds like more growth than i would expect [00:35] matey i mean if there were 25 billion people on earth sure [00:35] DaemonFC Obviously the sum of SPAM....errrrr human knowledge has expanded more than six fold. [00:35] matey im guessing 96gb is the uncompressed size [00:36] DaemonFC Compressed. [00:36] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@wbe8972expzee.irc) has joined #techrights [00:36] matey wow. [00:36] activelow reminds me, i wanted to host a wikipedia dump locally, already downloaded this, yet coultn't find how to _quickly_ administer this [00:36] matey what i learned while playing with english wikipedia was this [00:36] matey databases serve a purpose. [00:36] matey hehehehe [00:37] matey i was able to create many tens of thousands of files, in the same folder, no problem (ext3) [00:37] matey but then DELETING many tens of thousands of files after that, it was having a fun time [00:37] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:37] DaemonFC I was told about 5 years ago I think that Silverblue (immutable file system) was the future of Fedora. [00:38] DaemonFC Yet here we are with Fedora 36 about to go out and it's still off to the side. [00:38] psydruid jfs was good at deleting files [00:38] DaemonFC JFS was okay. [00:38] matey i absolutely chose the wrong partition for the job [00:38] psydruid xfs was good at corrupting files without a good ups [00:38] matey yeah xfs was just crap for everything [00:38] DaemonFC XFS is not the default file system in anything but RHEL. [00:39] matey fuck xfs with a rusty metal traffic cone [00:39] matey no but ubuntu pushed it for a while, and it made me hate trisquel a little more [00:39] DaemonFC They did? [00:39] activelow i was hitting a bug, with nilfs2-utils (aarch32 in userspace), running on top of aarch64 kernel, which is the cleanerd segfaults with this setup. [00:40] matey it was the default in ubuntu a few years ago [00:40] matey ext-something with xfs [00:40] matey so you couldnt resize. what a bitch. [00:40] activelow with a pure aarch64 nilfs2 was rather pleasent, yet cannot use it currently, because i need aarch32 [00:40] matey or maybe you could expand but not reclaim [00:40] matey i stuck to ext3 [00:41] activelow as far as filesystems are concerned, a log-structured such as nilfs2 had top priority over any other [00:41] matey with the above mentioned caveats if youre playing with wikipedia :) [00:41] DaemonFC systemd-coredump has a user now. [00:41] DaemonFC As well as systemd-timesync. [00:41] psydruid systemd-annihilated [00:41] matey does the user have root privileges? can you use it over ssh? does it have a hardcoded pw? does lennart have a backdoor? [00:42] matey i mean another backdoor [00:42] DaemonFC I recall Fedora making way for all of this junk by lowering the uid for the first user on the system a while back on new installs. [00:42] kingoffrance i remember reading about xfs when it was being ported......wikipedia says the guaranteed I/O feature needed special hardware, so apparently is gone. im not sure what besides that it does better than other FS. that would seem the killer feature [00:42] kingoffrance *special hardware back on irix [00:42] matey xfs is one of the most annoying things ubuntu ever did, but not as bad as unity lens [00:42] activelow the killer feature filesystems is log-structured, implemented with nilfs2 [00:42] matey i probably hate it more than most people [00:42] kingoffrance i just mean, why was it ported if the seemingly killer feature left out? [00:43] kingoffrance "enterprise" wanted it? who knows [00:43] matey maybe they were trying to court someone they failed to get attention from <- kingoffrance [00:43] matey ubuntu tried to do that a few times i think. like with amazon :) [00:44] matey "oh, you default to google search huh? hold my beer!" [00:44] kingoffrance thats the only thing i used to hear about "enterprise" hardware, that (paraphrase cray) anyon can make a fast processor, a fast system is another story. [00:44] matey no shit [00:55] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:56] MinceR it takes cray to cripple it with windows? [00:57] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [00:58] bnchs__ systemd-suckmydick(d) [00:58] bnchs__ systemd-suckmy(d)ick [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 78.66 average k/sec., average swarm size 579.55 [00:59] activelow sysvinit and openrc were somehwat enterprise style already too ● Apr 06 [01:00] activelow which emerged from a bureaucratic apparatus, which could afford to program and maintain this [01:00] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:01] activelow reminds me of IPSec, i don't know, something like this doesn't emerge inside a hacker brain with limited sanity [01:01] psydruid x86 hardware is usually quite unbalanced and even loses out to ARM when it comes to memory bandwidth [01:02] psydruid I guess the only reason why it still exists is Vista [01:02] activelow the reason it exists is: video games [01:03] kingoffrance well i always thought ipsec sounded nice (encrypt everything), but never saw it used anywhere. i will take your word for it [01:03] psydruid it's good for running video games made for Wintel DRM [01:03] *bnchs___ (~bnchs@dg4sf86fwiy7i.irc) has joined #techrights [01:04] activelow i think, again, IBM Wintel implemented full IPSec integration, including LDAP/Kerberos for this... which is rare [01:04] *bnchs___ has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:06] activelow somehow, i consider wireguard redundant too, SSH can cover almost all use cases for this [01:06] activelow except for an NFS equivalent [01:07] activelow currently, i am using NFS over wireguard vpn, although i preferred to skip this entirely too [01:07] activelow and i do not want FUSE, required for sshfs/mounts [01:08] activelow with kernel 2.4 sshfs was implemented without FUSE, didn't manage yet to reintegrate it, it was known as shfs [01:09] activelow if i could, i would ditch wireguard and NFS support from kernel [01:15] lightweight that could be a nice setup for my headslessAIbox [01:20] lightweight httpshttps://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Resume-Spec-Boot-CPU [01:22] activelow ^ gladly in-order cortex ARM doesn't need any of the mitigations [01:22] activelow the reason Intel does, is just a symptom of their bricked products [01:22] lightweight https://www.antitrustday.org/call/ -> tomorrow will be denial of service day [01:22] Alternative link CloudFlare: antitrustday.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.antitrustday.org/call/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.antitrustday.org/call/ [01:22] TR Bot ( status 404 @ https://www.antitrustday.org/call/ ) [01:23] psydruid Intel Brick [01:24] activelow and it is interesting too, comparing in-order and out-of-order CPU on ARM (cortex a53 with cortex a72), the out-of-order pipeline is far less benefitial to performance than it justified to implement such a design prone to security issues [01:25] psydruid why was there never another in-order core after Cortex-A55? [01:25] psydruid or is there? [01:25] activelow don't know, isn't the A55 the latest offering from ARM? [01:25] psydruid A510 perhaps [01:25] DaemonFC For some reason, Totem in Fedora 36 can't play AV1+Opus in a Matroska container. [01:26] psydruid ARMv9 core [01:26] DaemonFC It both crashes Totem and the thumbnailer for Nautilus. [01:26] lightweight you should had stiked to ubuntu [01:26] activelow the out-of-order CPUs from ARM may not be considered "RISC" anymore anyway; don't know why ARM introduced A72 and similar [01:27] lightweight you couldnt even play mp3 on fedora back then [01:31] lightweight another good one from fedora https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-37-Deprecate-BIOS [01:31] Alternative link CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-37-Deprecate-BIOS https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-37-Deprecate-BIOS [01:31] TR Bot 37 Looks To Deprecate Legacy BIOS Support - Phoronix [01:31] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:32] lightweight fedora isnt supposed to be used as daily driver distro [01:33] lightweight its just making users lab rats [01:33] lightweight to test their shit [01:33] lightweight or to get people to upgrade to redhat [01:35] lightweight they are just MS wannabes [01:35] activelow i think, RedHat and similar intended to _compete_ with Wintel [01:35] activelow however, this isn't what GNU/Linux was, a competitor to target consumer and corporate interests [01:37] activelow and to be fair with them, RedHat is a competent comptitor; nonetheless it isn't the type of system I want to work with myself, or administer for anyone else [01:37] lightweight they are also in love with gnome [01:38] activelow furthermore, if RedHat isn't of interest to a particular minority of hackers, then they loose them, and too loose against what they intended to compete with [01:38] activelow because IBM Wintel cannot be competed with based on technical and quality criteria [01:39] activelow not to mention Android; _never_ used any device where this is installed [01:40] MinceR yeah, you're supposed to pay ibm/deadrat for rHELL instead [01:41] MinceR or just get a few years ahead of their quest for the "modern" and use Backdoors or crapOS instead [01:42] activelow i did _remove_ the relevant parts, which originated from IBM/RedHat: ldap/kerberos/glibc/PAM/virtualization ... none of this remained [01:42] activelow i do not want this, not free of charge, not as a present, and certainly not pay for such [01:42] activelow i rather disconnect entirely from the internet, and hack with Z80 era stuff [01:43] psydruid GNU/Linux is just like proprietary UNIX back in the day [01:43] psydruid something corporate and not to be used by hackers [01:43] matey RedHat is a competent comptitor; nonetheless it isn't the type of system I want to work with myself, or administer for anyone else <- you can say that again [01:46] activelow yet, even at that time, of Z80 era, this is when IBM Wintel PC emerged (i8086), and crushed free and opensource (down to hardware realm) [01:46] activelow which was the time, when proprietary BIOS became the "real OS" [01:46] activelow now we got UEFI [01:48] activelow it is OK, if IBM Wintel do their business, problem is they impose their habits and products globally [01:48] activelow it is not at least possible anymore, to apply for some jobs, without any of their products [01:49] matey unjustifiably extensive firmware installation [01:50] matey [2~even at that time, of Z80 era, this is when IBM Wintel PC emerged (i8086), and crushed free and opensource (down to hardware realm) <- intel-ectual property [01:50] mjg59_ BIOS is not an OS and is not the "real OS" whatever that even means [01:50] activelow greetings mjg59_ [01:50] mjg59_ And also conceptually dates back to CP/M and, uh, the Z-80 [01:51] activelow i did some reading, historically, it was CP/M itself which initialized the hardware, without a "BIOS" [01:51] activelow and this is exactly what an operating system does: initialize the hardware [01:51] activelow that's why, i consider u-boot loader, an operating system too [01:51] mjg59_ BIOS in CP/M is the abstraction layer between the OS and the hardware, exactly the role it played on the PC [01:51] matey BIOS is not an OS <- seems like a quibble when the os contains routines that can replace the bios, and the bios replace toggling in initialisation routines that led to similar toggling for programming [01:52] matey i mean wherever you draw the line, it seems like a quibble [01:52] matey "this is new hampshire" "this is massachusettes" "this is vermont" and yet the borders used to be in different places. [01:53] matey even when they were still called that [01:53] mjg59_ Ironically, what made the PC less portable and gave IBM an initial lockin advantage is that people started accessing the hardware directly rather than using the BIOS [01:54] mjg59_ Hence the distinction between "PC Compatible" and "DOS Compatible" in the 80s [01:54] matey but that was surely by design and thanks to microsoft [01:54] mjg59_ You could boot DOS fine on machines that weren't PC compatible [01:55] mjg59_ Microsoft certainly did write code that had strong PC assumptions (Flight Simulator was the canonical example for years), but they were hardly alone [01:55] matey did caldera lock in anything via program routines? (vs licenses for example) [01:55] matey caldera/sco/opendos [01:56] mjg59_ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RM_Nimbus is an example of a DOS compatible machine that was widespread in UK schools for years [01:56] TR Bot RM Nimbus - Wikipedia [01:56] matey dos compatible was probably easier to get away with than pc compatible [01:57] matey since dos compatible wasnt a moving target, ibm was, and ibm sued for patents (microsoft didnt want to back then) [01:57] mjg59_ Oh yes - you just had to implement the BIOS interface, you didn't need to use any specific hardware [01:57] *mjg59_ heads out for a while [01:57] matey but if you did it in a chip you could face patent lawyers and if you did it with software, you were clever [01:58] matey ibm was very keen on sending lawyers into say, compaq over such things [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 78.48 average k/sec., average swarm size 305.30 [01:59] matey because one was a patent issue and (at the time) the other wasnt, it might have actually been ibms lawyers that inadvertently pushed microsoft (and maybe tandy) to work around ibm using software instead ● Apr 06 [02:01] matey this would also imply that ibms lockin was the cause and not "Ironically, what made the PC less portable and gave IBM an initial lockin advantage" the effect [02:02] activelow IBM+KPMG ... it's not a hacker thing, in this realm, they call it "business" [02:02] activelow KPMG with their "trust fund" (Treuhand), it was them who dismantled and destroyed east-german seminconductor manufacturing [02:03] activelow 30years later they realized, this may not have been a good idea, and dump trillions of cash [02:03] activelow now they want to bless east-german with Intel Fabs, F-35 for sale, and Israeli Arrow-3 missile defense: NO THANKS. [02:04] activelow german military reported, their radio equipment wasn't suitable anymore, to communicate with allies, Eurofighter (68K iirc) reported as defunct [02:05] activelow NASA itself couldn't source sparei8086 parts for their Space Shuttle anymore [02:05] activelow looking forward to the product-lifecycle of SpaceX [02:05] matey systemd-spacexd [02:06] matey instead of releasing the booster it waits for the ignition to disingage, gets stuck in a loop and if youre lucky, drops (not literally!) to a shell [02:07] matey but thats ok, theres still enough fuel for the maneuvering thrusters to carry out half the mission [02:07] matey the problem is always upstream [02:08] matey "its probably a configuration issue. what kernel version is it?" [02:09] activelow spacex will manage, yet i doubt this era of computing will be any more long-time reliable than the last one [02:10] matey i honestly think its daft for space programmes to rely on such overcomplicated software [02:10] matey when reliability is a matter of life and death, everything should be fucking stripped down [02:11] matey you dont need xfce-notify popping up with shit when youre trying to get into orbit [02:11] MinceR broadcasts "a stop job is running" and then falls out of the sky like a rock [02:11] activelow the lunar lander program was what micro-soft competed with, written in BASIC [02:11] matey a stop job is running <- i dont know why it couldnt reach 8.8.8.8 [02:12] MinceR :> [02:12] activelow to the moon, with 4Bit ALU [02:13] matey /me tries to figure out how long the ethernet cables needs to be [02:14] matey "oh heres the problem-- hw accelleration isnt supported for this model of gpu anymore?" [02:14] matey "hw accelleration?" [02:14] MinceR acceleration via rocket hardware [02:14] matey "yeah, you need accellerated graphics to make an init system work-- everyone knows that!" [02:14] MinceR :) [02:15] MinceR there was a time when windows couldn't run without a GUI, i guess that's the "modern" thing [02:15] matey acceleration via rocket hardwar <- well yes but its a catch 22 because you need the accelleration to start the rocket and you need the rocket to provide the accelleration [02:16] matey so once again the problem is upstream (or we will say it is and see if nasa buys it-- after all, whats a bunch of fucking rocket scientists compared to lord poettering?) [02:16] MinceR :> [02:16] MinceR just put a copy of poettering's multiseat laptop in the rocket [02:16] matey harry poettering and the init system of azkaban [02:17] MinceR don't forget to install gnome on it [02:17] matey just strap poettering to the rocket [02:17] MinceR lol [02:17] activelow a misconception is this, imo, the argument any consumer or ordinary business type system was tailored according to different standards than what is suitable for aerospace [02:17] activelow instead, the ordinary consumer stuff it is, which homebrewser and hackers and kids grow up with [02:17] matey "but hagrid, im not a... a... a... developer" [02:18] activelow that's why, nowadays, engineering labs are equipped with tons of electronics powerd by IBM Wintel [02:18] matey "well sure ya are! *leans in* havent ya ever taken a half a dozen projects source code and slapped them together with duct tape into some terrible monstrousity an called it 'enterprise?'" [02:18] matey "well..." [02:18] matey "mmhmm." [02:18] activelow the industry, they _cannot_ separate from common trends in "business" and "consumer" market [02:19] activelow if IBM Wintel PC dominates consumer and business, then this is what engineers have to work with [02:19] matey enterprise software is a fashionable dictatorship [02:19] MinceR is there an unfashionable dictatorship anymore? [02:19] matey no, theyre all in fashion [02:20] activelow didn't review SPARC Leon yet... which Airbus chose; i fear however, they deploy their designs with Xilinx monstrosity on IBM Wintel PC [02:20] matey "if IBM Wintel PC dominates consumer and business" fortunately roy is probably right about this part [02:21] matey "which Airbus chose" thats enough to turn me away [02:21] matey if they chose the colour green id get something else. [02:23] activelow some years ago, it was possible to assemble a 68K on a breadboard... and boot linux with it; this times have passed [02:23] MinceR lol [02:23] matey no you can still do that [02:23] MinceR matey: it could be worse... it could be boeing [02:23] activelow i think it was a kernel 2.4 or 2.6 [02:23] matey they never go boeing, its more of a KKRRRHHHSSSHHH!!!!!!! FOOM [02:24] *Error has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:24] MinceR lol [02:25] matey but stastically your odds are still worse in a car [02:25] matey and elon musk is working very hard to make certain it not only stays that way, but is even more like that [02:26] MinceR :> [02:26] matey hal deactivate engine "im sorry dave, i cant do that" [02:27] MinceR maybe they'll implement a "feature" so that "law enforcement" can hijack/detour cars driven by "criminals" [02:27] matey pinecar will of course, release a modified smart car with a pin you can pull out to sever the battery connection to the motors [02:27] matey but im hoping they will call their first model the "derby" [02:27] MinceR and then someone manages to log in as if they were "law enforcement" and fun things happen [02:27] matey or microsoft wants to run updates [02:27] MinceR i'd rather have a Land Cruiser retromodded with a BEV powertrain [02:28] matey hey, my car wont steer "youre holding it wrong" [02:28] matey id rather have a fucking bicycle. [02:28] MinceR lol [02:29] matey the more ridiculous technology gets, the more 1800s technology looks ahead of its time [02:29] matey "my coffee grinder is stuck running updates again." "oh well, i only have this hand-cranked one, but its working" [02:29] activelow mathematics in 1800 were highly advanced already [02:29] matey yeah but i suck at math [02:30] MinceR :> [02:30] activelow fourier and laplace transform, already existed iirc [02:30] MinceR my hand-cranked coffee grinder isn't from 1800 [02:30] activelow which is what most modern signal-processing is based upon [02:30] matey ive used what pretty much has to be an antique, or a good knockoff [02:30] matey cast iron fucking gears on it [02:30] matey it looks like its from a museum [02:31] matey im not a luddite, but as a debian refugee im naturally impressed by things that actually work. [02:31] activelow i wasn't good at that anymore either, too many other "innovations" to struggle with while studying: java and oracle db... puke [02:31] MinceR i have one of these >> https://www.zassenhaus.com/produkte/kaffee/18/mokkamuehle-havanna [02:31] TR Bot HAVANNA | Kaffee | Produkte | ZASSENHAUS since 1867 [02:31] matey nice [02:33] matey my hand cranked coffee grinder, my mokkamuehle havanna, my 12-stage init system, dropped to the shell again for you-hooooo-- you--hooooo id eleave it all [02:33] matey /me still thinks george ezra is taking the piss [02:37] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. 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HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-050422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-050422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-050422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-050422.txt [02:40] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, April 05, 2022 [02:40] MinceR it's sad that this ircd not only allows unicode nicks but also nicks starting with digits [02:40] matey /me is sceptical but someone is adamant [02:40] matey well i think its a legitimate usage, or close enough [02:40] matey it was a reply to something i asked earlier, but i was only asking for bnchs [02:41] matey at any rate we looked there, and didnt find what we wanted. maybe its there now. [02:41] matey im not sure how to "collaborate my time" but software is developed all over the world, by people who speak varying degrees (and dialects) of english [02:41] matey hinglish is hysterical. and sometimes very clever. [02:42] MinceR i doubt it even highlighted you :> [02:42] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-04-05.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-04-05.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:42] matey no, but i saw it nonetheless [02:42] MinceR :) [02:42] matey my initial reaction of course, was similar to yours. but it only took a moment to see what was going on [02:44] matey in hinglish, "prepone" is a word [02:44] matey its the opposite of postpone [02:44] MinceR :> [02:44] MinceR isn't there a real english word for that? [02:44] matey its real english from the perspective of an asian subcontinent [02:44] MinceR lol [02:45] MinceR advance, hasten, antedate, expedite [02:45] matey also "loose motion" is what you get from eating too many spicy foods, or drinking milk when lactose intolerant [02:45] matey well english is already silly (and hopelessly foreign to itself) to begin with [02:46] MinceR :) [02:46] matey its the systemd of languages, and id almost rather speak something else [02:46] matey its not like i havent tried. migrating to openbsd was a fuck of a lot easier [02:46] MinceR i don't think that concept is applicable to languages [02:47] matey if it is applicable, then english is the example. [02:47] MinceR it implies that there are other things you could load into your mind that would do part of the work the english language does, but aren't languages themselves [02:47] MinceR or whatever [02:47] matey i think english is the most ridiculous commonly used language in the world-- but its certainly not useless. [02:47] MinceR dunno [02:48] MinceR have you met other languages? :> [02:48] matey yes, and i think mandarin is a contender. [02:48] matey i do love that it teaches everyone to sing everything [02:49] MinceR i don't love that [02:49] MinceR i can't sing everything and i'm even worse at picking the tone out of the song [02:49] matey because of all the tones when speaking, chinese people speaking english (if theyre actually from china) end up sounding like theyre saying "hellooooo siiirrrrrr, how are youoooo" [02:49] MinceR and it seems that it is often left out [02:49] matey insert unicode musical notes [02:49] matey well it makes its a bitch to learn [02:49] MinceR names are often transcribed without the tones [02:49] matey but theres only 4 tones, so [02:49] MinceR and i suspect that there are contexts in which they are at least more difficult to pick out [02:50] matey yeah but then hindi comes along and says "we dont do that" [02:50] *2bnchs (~6d466413@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [02:50] 2bnchs ROFL XD :-) >>> bnchs they smoked crack during the design [02:50] *2bnchs has quit (Quit: https://mibbit.com Online IRC Client) [02:50] MinceR also, other languages use tone for other meta-information [02:50] matey "we just have 15 different vowels that sound exactly the same" [02:50] MinceR whoever is using these 2matey, 2bnchs and other nicks: you can hang out here, we don't bite :> [02:51] kingoffrance well i guess these mirror people are "visitors" [02:51] matey i think its meant to convey an air of mystery [02:51] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [02:51] *matey has quit (connection closed) [02:51] MinceR mystery is pretty much ensured anyway [02:52] *a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream (~a_taco_that_shits_i@ikcgfy7b282sc.irc) has joined #techrights [02:52] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream well i guess these mirror people are "visitors" <- i couldnt resist [02:53] MinceR lol [02:53] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream its such a good episode [02:53] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream i hope jodie foster saw it [02:54] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream when youre blue and you dont know where to go to why dont you go where theyre fascist? [02:54] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream putin on a ritz! [02:54] MinceR :) [02:54] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream so that guys name is ACTUALLY taco [02:54] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream i thought it was the name of the band [02:55] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream i dont think he shits ice cream though [02:55] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream if youre blue and you dont know where to go to why dont you go where ice cream shits? [02:56] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream pooper duper! [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 93.98 average k/sec., average swarm size 282.36 ● Apr 06 [03:03] *Errr (~err@rcmcei2p3396g.irc) has joined #techrights [03:03] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream https://yewtu.be/watch?v=AvKhAHflqvM usually i hate remixes [03:03] TR Bot TACO PUTTIN ON THE RITZ 2017 (A Tribute To Fred Astaire) - Invidious [03:04] MinceR (audio) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLMTMK-mp7w [03:04] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=jLMTMK-mp7w [03:04] TR Bot yewtu.be | Putin on the Ritz - Invidious [03:04] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 99301 total Total number of pages in capsule: 40045 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 1 months 26 days ago [03:05] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 27 GB TotalOut: 5.9 GB [03:06] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:07] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream 2:25 tries to be electroswing and comes out sounding like klezmer instead [03:07] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream since i technically like both i just think its funny [03:08] IPFS QmPP37AxLbRc3k9bp8hVPgJLkqdNKMo4NwWGy77QCsCNmS [03:08] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:08] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream hes got a fuck of a lot of energy for a dude with white hair [03:09] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream of course hes only 61 in that video [03:10] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream these days you can be "only 61" [03:12] MinceR white hair can be faked :> [03:12] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream "Taco Ockerse was born in Jakarta, Indonesia, on 21 July 1955,[7] he spent many of his childhood years moving around the world, residing in the Netherlands, the United States, Singapore, Luxembourg, Belgium, and Germany." [03:12] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream white hair can be faked <- but does he code! [03:12] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream i knew a guy from indonesia [03:13] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream 80 years old and had a smarter mouth than anyone ive met so far [03:14] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream he also moved to the netherlands with his brother [03:15] MinceR lol [03:17] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream /me misses delores oriordan [03:17] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream if elton john can miss marilyn monroe, i can miss oriordan [03:18] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream drowned in a bath because she was loaded on booze [03:19] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream loaded on booze because she was fucked up for life [03:19] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream but she spent a lot of time trying to straighten it out [03:20] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream but her voice <3 [03:20] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream also sometimes she was really gorgeous [03:20] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream in "ode to my family" she looks like jim carrey in the mask [03:20] *lightweight has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:21] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream but usually shes fucking beautiful [03:21] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream its the teeth [03:21] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@8pgwzpdm5ih5u.irc) has joined #techrights [03:21] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream theyre very big and white [03:21] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream great song though [03:22] DaemonFC Okay, so that might solve some of my WiFi stability problems. [03:22] MinceR ethernet? [03:22] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream ^ [03:22] DaemonFC Debian keeps their firmware severely out of date. [03:22] DaemonFC Fedora doesn't. [03:22] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream steve jobs didnt use wifi [03:23] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream or license plates, but fines = legal if youre rich [03:24] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream i imagine if theyd given him a couple nights in a cell he would have put a plate on his car [03:24] MinceR steve jobs also didn't like putting fans in devices that needed them [03:24] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream or buttons on optical drives, because those are for losers :) [03:25] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream everyone knows that the eject button should be on the keyboard [03:25] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream and now you need an apple keyboard! [03:25] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream but wait, you can also drag the cd to the trash! [03:25] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream because of course thats what you would do! [03:25] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream and this is why ive never dropped acid. [03:26] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream i mean its not the only reason, merely the most compelling. [03:26] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream steve jobs: you should try acid! everyone should! [03:26] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream also steve jobs: "and then you drag the cd into the trash can!" [03:26] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream "and thats how it ejects" [03:26] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream yep. [03:26] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream never touching the stuff [03:27] MinceR :> [03:28] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream he never put fans in machines that should have them because he was afraid he would lapse into his old habit [03:28] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream of turning all his computers into bongs [03:29] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream im not against pot of course, but using your computer as a bong is just silly [03:29] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream thats what keurigs are for. [03:29] MinceR lol [03:30] DaemonFC It seems libadwaita and GTK4 are causing another theme mess. [03:30] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream i draw the line at gtk4 [03:30] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream 1 browser, 1 graphical editor [03:30] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream no other exceptions [03:30] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream fork gtk, this is silly. [03:31] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream /me isnt using gtk for much [03:32] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream too bad qt is such a dumpster fire [03:32] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream it could have been useful [03:32] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream /me lived next to a literal dumpster fire once [03:33] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream they had fun rebuilding that side of the building [03:33] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream because this is where your fucking cigarette goes, woody (yes of course it was a cigarette) [03:33] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream thats so stupid they should have deported the guy [03:34] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream he was greek. and im not really big on deporting people. but i mean as an alternative to shooting him. [03:40] *CParadoxum__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:56] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream tomboys :) the geeky variety https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/2022-04-04-GP1037.jpg [03:56] *CParadoxum__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [03:57] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream the running lights are hysterical [03:58] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 36.65 k/sec., IPFS upstream 69.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 607.86 [03:59] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream its funny because the one with purple hair is a feminist, and the blonde and the (purple zebra) succubus think shes incredibly uptight, but like her otherwise ● Apr 06 [04:14] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, April 05, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:14] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [04:14] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:14] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:14] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@xcqp5yibm54ew.irc) has joined #techrights [04:14] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [04:15] DaemonFC GNOME Software is as big a piece of shit as ever. [04:15] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream yes! [04:15] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream when you said you wanted to try gnome 42, i thought you were high [04:15] DaemonFC I just had to kill -9 it and delete its cache folder because it insisted that apps I removed with dnf were there, but when you click uninstall it says nothing to remove. [04:16] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream the purpose of gnome is to bring windows to the "linux" desktop [04:16] DaemonFC Okay, so the LULZ with GNOME Software Center never end, and now GNOME doesn't know what AV1+Opus in MKV is and it crashes the thumbnailer. [04:16] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream or if not windows, then the same sheer stupidity [04:16] DaemonFC But if you open them in Celluloid they play (or VLC). [04:16] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream gnome is also a wonderful barometer as the general direction the fsf is going [04:17] TR News Building Emacs 28.1 gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-04-05%20Building%20Emacs%2028.1 [04:17] *jkl has quit (Quit: Gone.) [04:17] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream gnome and systemd are both like your metaphor of q [04:17] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream if they want something to work, they just change the gravitational constant of the universe [04:18] DaemonFC The installer also left my hostname set to localhost-live. [04:18] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream and wait for everyone else to go along with it [04:18] TR News "america [sic] is definitely the worst developed country [sic] and the only reason people find it compelling is that it's the richest and most powerful" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi [04:18] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream nice of it to choose a hostname for you [04:18] *jkl (~jkl@freenode/user/jkl) has joined #techrights [04:19] schestowitz (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D194.jpg [04:19] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream sesame-street-live probably would have cause a collision [04:19] schestowitz (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D552.jpg [04:19] MinceR 06 051615 < a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream> the purpose of gnome is to bring windows to the "linux" desktop [04:19] MinceR i thought it was supposed to bring macos to it [04:19] DaemonFC Eh, resetting it with hostnamectl works. [04:20] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream the purpose of WINDOWS is to bring macos to people who dont have a mac [04:20] DaemonFC Apparently, there is no Fedora 36 Beta for SilverBlue, but you can install Fedora 35 and then change the OSTree to 36 Beta. [04:20] MinceR lol [04:20] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream the purpose of gnome is to bring windows to people who dont have windows [04:20] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream its sort of like a big with training wheels-- and the training wheels have their own training wheels [04:20] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream like a bike ^ [04:21] DaemonFC I wonder if SilverBlue has any purpose except to give you a reason to use Flatpaks. [04:21] DaemonFC Oh, and adding a display returns me to the log-in screen. [04:21] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream /me still thinks dfc is making silverblue up [04:21] DaemonFC Why? [04:21] DaemonFC But when I log in, everything is still here. Same for turning off the display. [04:22] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream All Will Be Revealed [04:23] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream its probably just the usual dick sucking contest though [04:24] DaemonFC On the upside, my WiFi connection has never been better. [04:25] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream but thats a firmware issue [04:25] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream or at least it was [04:29] TR News STEAM DECK Gameplay | LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ili1B46Pg7A Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia [04:29] TR Bot STEAM DECK Gameplay | LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga - Invidious [04:30] DaemonFC All bittorrent apps are unsafe according to the GNOME Software program. [04:31] DaemonFC They've been given full file system access in Flatpak. [04:31] DaemonFC I suppose you could fix that.... [04:31] TR News CVSS v3 8.4 https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-095-02 [04:31] TR Bot Johnson Controls Metasys | CISA [04:31] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:31] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream flatpak seems to have been designed to babysit users [04:32] TR News Funny how Microsoft-funded corporate media never covers HIGHLY CRITICAL AND SEVERE flaws in PROPRIETARY software. [04:32] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream function right() { right_buf="" ; right_c=0 ; right_p=${1} ; right_x=${2} ; for right_b in $(echo "$right_p" | tr ' ' '_' | rev | fold -sw 1) ; do right_buf="$right_buf$right_b" ; right_c="$(($right_c+1))" ; if [[ ! "$right_c" -lt "$right_x" ]] ; then break ; fi ; done ; echo "$right_buf" | rev | tr '_' ' ' } [04:32] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163397 [04:32] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [04:32] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream i suppose if everything was written in bash, eventually people would say "fuck it" and just move to hardware designs instead [04:32] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@xcqp5yibm54ew.irc) has joined #techrights [04:33] DaemonFC So all the icons are missing in GTK3 applications. [04:33] DaemonFC What a mess. [04:33] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream i delete all my icons [04:34] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream im used to them not being there [04:34] TR News "In this video, we are looking at Xubuntu 22.04 Beta." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vT78T95Daz8 [04:34] TR Bot Xubuntu 22.04 Beta Run Through - Invidious [04:34] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream applications whinge about it in the term output [04:35] TR News Ubuntu Budgie 22.04 Beta Run Through - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DZKmzV_0RBY Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia [04:35] TR Bot Ubuntu Budgie 22.04 Beta Run Through - Invidious [04:35] TR News 3D printing a bunch of community-made Steam Deck models. Any youd recommend? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Ag36Hwpycr0 Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia [04:35] TR Bot 3D printing a bunch of community-made Steam Deck models. Any you'd recommend? - Invidious [04:36] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream imo if a button doesnt have an icon file, it should switch to using a label [04:36] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream if the button is fixed width, it will naturally become an initial for that label. [04:36] TR News "So a gitlab dev made a pretty big mistake and pushed a hardcoded password into production code, the results are as you'd expect." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=EE_RfwQcDuE [04:36] TR Bot Gitlab Ships Critical Account Takeover Bug - Invidious [04:36] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream or a de facto abbreviation [04:37] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream this is not what happens. although i do not care [04:37] TR News "Hey, DT! Whats Your Thoughts On Elementary OS?" (And Other Questions) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=jGXTWwIYhY8 Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia [04:37] TR Bot "Hey, DT! What's Your Thoughts On Elementary OS?" (And Other Questions) - Invidious [04:37] DaemonFC I might download the KDE edition and see if that's still ruined. [04:37] DaemonFC LOL [04:37] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream there are buttons on my keyboard that dont have labels either. its not even that old, but theyve worn onff [04:37] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream off [04:37] DaemonFC I never thought they'd shit on GNOME like this. [04:38] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:38] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream i think its redundant [04:38] TR News Knowledge by the Pound: *The Renowned History of Giles Gingerbread* (1768) The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/giles-gingerbread/ Source: publicdomainreview [04:38] TR Bot Knowledge by the Pound: *The Renowned History of Giles Gingerbread* (1768) The Public Domain Review [04:38] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream gnome shitting on itself is like some kind of defecation klein bottle [04:38] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream a klein toilet! [04:39] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream dont ask me how youre supposed to keep water in the bowl [04:40] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream if it stops up you need a moebius plunger [04:42] TR News Istio / Announcing Istio 1.12.6 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163398 [04:42] TR Bot Istio / Announcing Istio 1.12.6 | Tux Machines [04:43] TR News "WordPress 5.9.3 is now available! This maintenance release features 9 bug fixes in Core and 10 bug fixes in the block editor. WordPress 5.9.3 is a short-cycle maintenance release. The next major release will be version 6.0." https://wordpress.org/news/2022/04/wordpress-5-9-3-maintenance-release/ [04:43] TR Bot WordPress 5.9.3 Maintenance Release WordPress News [04:44] TR News Apple is failing its own so-called 'customers' https://9to5mac.com/2022/03/28/cider-is-an-alternative-apple-music-desktop-client-with-features-missing-in-itunes/ [04:44] TR Bot is an alternative Apple Music client for Windows and Linux - 9to5Mac [04:44] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@cgge622fryay2.irc) has joined #techrights [04:45] DaemonFC Okay, well, I fixed the "legacy" apps not being dark. [04:45] TR News kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - x86/speculation: Restore speculation related MSRs during S3 resume https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=e2a1256b17b16f9b9adf1b6fea56819e7b68e463 Source: git [04:45] TR Bot kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree [04:45] DaemonFC Dark themes are the only themes that should be legal. [04:45] DaemonFC The light theme is a crime. [04:45] DaemonFC Tweaks now has a setting for legacy apps to use Adwaita-Dark. But if you just set Dark Mode in the Settings app, then you get a nice big fuck you from GNOME. [04:45] TR News You should upgrade. But to GNU/Linux. Vista 11 is a DOWNGRADE. More bugs. https://www.windowslatest.com/2022/04/03/should-you-upgrade-to-windows-11-heres-a-list-of-missing-features/ [04:45] Alternative link CloudFlare: windowslatest.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowslatest.com/2022/04/03/should-you-upgrade-to-windows-11-heres-a-list-of-missing-features/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.windowslatest.com/2022/04/03/should-you-upgrade-to-windows-11-heres-a-list-of-missing-features/ [04:45] TR Bot Should you upgrade to Windows 11? Here's a list of missing features [04:45] DaemonFC The GNOME apps are dark and nothing else. [04:45] TR News Latest Videos About GNU/Linux (via Invidious) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163399 [04:46] TR Bot Latest Videos About GNU/Linux (via Invidious) | Tux Machines [04:46] DaemonFC https://www.spinics.net/lists/fedora-devel/msg298834.html [04:46] TR Bot Fedora Development Icon issues in a number of applications - f36 and rawhide [04:47] DaemonFC Okay, I installed GNOME Icon Theme and I still have no icons. [04:47] DaemonFC Maybe I need to log out and back in. [04:47] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:50] TR News In January 2022, the European Parliament voted in favor of the Digital Services Act (DSA), a horizontal legislation for the EUs digital single market that seeks to define platforms responsibility regarding user content https://www.lumendatabase.org/blog_entries/transparency-initiatives-in-the-dsa-an-exciting-step-forward-in-transparency-reporting [04:50] TR Bot [04:51] TR News Party for a corporate distro??? https://ubuntu-mm.net/loco-news/the-call-for-participation-is-now-open-for-ubuntu-22-04-release-party/ [04:51] TR Bot The Call for Participation is now open for Ubuntu 22.04 Release Party Ubuntu MM [04:52] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@cgge622fryay2.irc) has joined #techrights [04:52] DaemonFC So, that does fix GTK3 apps, sure. [04:52] DaemonFC But not Qt apps. You have to switch to "GNOME" icons to get your icons back in all cases. [04:52] DaemonFC libadwaita fallout..... [04:53] TR News "free Libre"?? On Apple MacOS only?? https://medevel.com/stats/ [04:53] Alternative link CloudFlare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/stats/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/stats/ [04:53] TR Bot Stats: A free Libre macOS system monitor directly from your menubar [04:53] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:54] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream garish nebulous obnoxious microsoft-like environment [04:56] TR News Shaarli is a free open-source, self-hosted Bookmarking solution Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163400 [04:56] TR Bot Shaarli is a free open-source, self-hosted Bookmarking solution | Tux Machines [04:57] TR News My guide to understanding Git rebase -i | https://opensource.com/article/22/4/manage-git-commits-rebase-i-command Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux [04:57] TR Bot guide to understanding Git rebase -i | Opensource.com [04:58] TR News Funny how corporate media does not call git a "Linux command". As THAT might actually upset Linus, unlike RMS (calling GNU programs "Linux"). [04:58] DaemonFC But if you install Qt/KDE applications as Flatpaks, the icons work again and you can use whatever icons you want in GNOME. [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 57.93 average k/sec., average swarm size 343.78 [04:59] TR News "I recorded a ~20-minute video tutorial demonstrating how to work with mesh gradients in Inkscape, importing them into Scribus and producing print-ready CMYK artwork. You can watch it above embedded from YouTube or on my personal LinuxRocks PeerTube channel." https://blog.linuxgrrl.com/2022/04/05/working-with-gradient-meshes-in-inkscape-scribus-to-produce-print-ready-artwork/ [04:59] TR Bot Working with gradient meshes in Inkscape & Scribus to produce print-ready artwork Mirn Duffy [04:59] activelow DaemonFC: what a satire show of yours is this again ? ● Apr 06 [05:00] DaemonFC Fedora 36. [05:00] DaemonFC None of these issues are blocking the final release, by the way. :) [05:00] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [05:00] TR News "All system admins should be lazy. Not as in not doing their job, but as in doing it as efficiently as possible. Why do you have to do things manually when you can automate them?" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/automating-red-hat-identity-management-installation [05:00] TR Bot Automating Red Hat Identity Management installation [05:01] TR News "The kernel team is working on final integration for Linux kernel 5.17. This version was just recently released, and will arrive soon in Fedora. As a result, the Fedora kernel and QA teams have organized a test week now through Sunday, April 10, 2022." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/contribute-at-the-fedora-linux-36-test-week-for-kernel-5-17/ [05:01] TR Bot Contribute at the Fedora Linux 36 Test Week for Kernel 5.17 Fedora Community Blog [05:02] DaemonFC Maybe the Qt apps are broken because they're missing something else? [05:02] schestowitz-TR ICBM snubs KDE [05:03] schestowitz-TR maybe you missed the announcement. It was deliberate. [05:04] TR News No, you do not want "relationship" with suits https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/want-impress-your-cio-5-donts [05:04] TR Bot Want to build a relationship with your CIO? 5 things you shouldn't do | The Enterprisers Project [05:05] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:06] TR News "In the last post I explained how I built a base map of Tasmania (coastline plus main roads) with a lat/lon grid using gnuplot. Here I describe how the base map was used to generate GIF animations." https://www.datafix.com.au/BASHing/2022-04-06.html [05:07] TR Bot Mapping with gnuplot, part 3 [05:07] TR News This DIY coop controller makes caring for chickens a much easier task | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/05/this-diy-coop-controller-makes-caring-for-chickens-a-much-easier-task/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking [05:07] Alternative link CloudFlare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/05/this-diy-coop-controller-makes-caring-for-chickens-a-much-easier-task/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/05/this-diy-coop-controller-makes-caring-for-chickens-a-much-easier-task/ [05:07] TR Bot This DIY coop controller makes caring for chickens a much easier task | Arduino Blog [05:08] TR News The Arduipiano is an Arduino-powered floor piano that lets you play music with your feet | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/05/the-arduipiano-is-an-arduino-powered-floor-piano-that-lets-you-play-music-with-your-feet/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking [05:08] Alternative link CloudFlare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/05/the-arduipiano-is-an-arduino-powered-floor-piano-that-lets-you-play-music-with-your-feet/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/05/the-arduipiano-is-an-arduino-powered-floor-piano-that-lets-you-play-music-with-your-feet/ [05:08] TR Bot The Arduipiano is an Arduino-powered floor piano that lets you play music with your feet | Arduino Blog [05:08] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@cgge622fryay2.irc) has joined #techrights [05:09] TR News "Hans Andersson decided to make his own version that integrates both RGB LEDs and fiber optics to show the current time in a far more entertaining manner." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/06/the-o-clock-is-a-fun-way-to-check-the-current-time/ [05:09] Alternative link CloudFlare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/06/the-o-clock-is-a-fun-way-to-check-the-current-time/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/06/the-o-clock-is-a-fun-way-to-check-the-current-time/ [05:09] TR Bot The O-Clock is a fun way to check the current time | Arduino Blog [05:09] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Yeah, it seems the only ways to get icons in Qt apps are to use the "GNOME Icon Theme" (not Adwaita), or use KDE and Qt apps as Flatpaks. [05:10] DaemonFC But installing GNOME Icon Theme puts the icons back into "Legacy" GTK apps. [05:10] DaemonFC Even if those are from RPM. [05:11] TR News Mobile 'phones' or 'smart' crap has become mostly about the surveillance https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2022/04/05/philippines-sim-card-registration-act-will-expose-users-to-greater-privacy-and-security-risks-online/ [05:11] Alternative link CloudFlare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2022/04/05/philippines-sim-card-registration-act-will-expose-users-to-greater-privacy-and-security-risks-online/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2022/04/05/philippines-sim-card-registration-act-will-expose-users-to-greater-privacy-and-security-risks-online/ [05:11] TR Bot Philippines SIM Card Registration Act will expose users to greater privacy and security risks online - Open Policy & Advocacy [05:11] DaemonFC https://www.spinics.net/lists/fedora-devel/msg298835.html [05:11] TR Bot Fedora Development Re: Icon issues in a number of applications - f36 and rawhide [05:11] TR News IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163401 [05:11] TR Bot IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [05:11] DaemonFC "Yeah, so the TL;DR here is adwaita-icon-theme has removed a bunch of color icons. GNOME applications should for the most part only be using symbolic icons, so it's probably not very disruptive for GNOME apps, but it could be very disruptive for third-party apps that don't follow our guidelines. I will avoid expressing an opinion on whether removing icons that applications depend on is a good thing to do." [05:11] DaemonFC W T F [05:11] TR News "Clutter can consume us in digital form, too from an overabundance of browser bookmarks and open tabs to navigating a world wide web thats littered with junk. The right browser extension, however, can really help clean things up" https://addons.mozilla.org/blog/extensions-for-cleaning-up-a-chaotic-desktop/ [05:11] Alternative link CloudFlare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://addons.mozilla.org/blog/extensions-for-cleaning-up-a-chaotic-desktop/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://addons.mozilla.org/blog/extensions-for-cleaning-up-a-chaotic-desktop/ [05:11] TR Bot Extensions for cleaning up a chaotic desktop - Firefox Add-ons Blog [05:12] DaemonFC So this is not a bug? They did this knowing what would happen! [05:12] DaemonFC "Recommendation: Third-party applications should limit themselves to depending on standard icon names listed at https://specifications.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html only. All other icons should be installed by your app to guarantee that they don't disappear out from under you." [05:12] TR Bot Icon Naming Specification [05:12] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, ^ I'm going to write about this. [05:12] schestowitz-TR ok [05:12] TR News Latest Showcases of Arduino Projects Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163402 [05:12] TR Bot Latest Showcases of Arduino Projects | Tux Machines [05:13] DaemonFC "gnome-icon-theme is just an obsolete, older version of adwaita-icon-theme. Installing it is not recommended, but it is still hanging around in Fedora in case you need it." [05:13] DaemonFC What are you supposed to do? Use broken apps that have invisible buttons!? [05:13] schestowitz-TR move to an apple os [05:13] schestowitz-TR where the most customisation you can get is "dark mode" [05:14] DaemonFC The Flatpaks apparently work because they bundle what they need in order to run, and the runtime has the icons that they use. [05:14] activelow (mandatory) adwaita icon theme created a nasty depency graph, against SVG, and some other stuff including c++ [05:14] activelow which isn't critical; nonetheless, GTK was written in C, not C++, that's why it is sad [05:15] activelow because i hoped GTK could remain inside the base system [05:15] DaemonFC So Fedora has broken Transmission, Deluge, and QBittorrent. [05:15] DaemonFC But not VLC. [05:15] TR News What does this have to do with security? When "Senior Product Manager" with "a wide breadth of technical marketing expertise" writes stuff... https://www.suse.com/c/open-source-security-for-ibm-z16/ [05:15] Alternative link CloudFlare: suse.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/open-source-security-for-ibm-z16/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.suse.com/c/open-source-security-for-ibm-z16/ [05:15] TR Bot Open Source Security with SUSE and the new IBM z16 | SUSE Communities [05:16] activelow some years ago a C-compiler sufficed, for X11/GTK, not anymore [05:16] TR News Samsung devices incorrectly handle CSS @media hover queries https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/css-media-hover-samsung.html bug reports become blog posts? [05:16] TR Bot Samsung devices incorrectly handle CSS @media hover queries [05:17] activelow too, the entire (La|Xe)TeX tree of packages require C++; Knuth rejected c++, however i had not seen any original TeX components anymore inside gentoo tree [05:18] activelow ghostscript and gnuplot was another one, which i hoped remain inside base system, and cannot yet [05:18] TR News Openwashing https://opensource.com/open-organization/22/4/essence-of-openness-norberg-review [05:18] TR Bot 4 questions about the essence of openness [05:22] TR News After being ousted from his own company https://techcrunch-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/techcrunch.com/2022/03/30/docker-founder-launches-dagger-a-new-devops-platform/amp/ [05:22] TR Bot Docker founder launches Dagger, a new DevOps platform TechCrunch [05:23] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163403 [05:23] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [05:24] TR News They should ban Microsoft and Windows if they're true to their mission https://www.fosslife.org/us-bureau-cyberspace-and-digital-policy-launched see http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/ [05:24] TR Bot U.S. Bureau of Cyberspace and Digital Policy Launched [05:24] TR Bot Is Microsoft a National Security Threat? | Techrights [05:25] TR News "Designed by Smart Bee Designs, the tiny Bee Motion Mini combines an ESP32-C3 wireless RISC-V SoC with a PIR sensor for motion detection reporting over WiFi, Bluetooth LE, or Bluetooh Mesh." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/05/bee-motion-mini-esp32-c3-pir-sensor-board/ [05:25] Alternative link CloudFlare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/05/bee-motion-mini-esp32-c3-pir-sensor-board/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/05/bee-motion-mini-esp32-c3-pir-sensor-board/ [05:25] TR Bot Bee Motion Mini board combines ESP32-C3 with PIR sensor - CNX Software [05:28] DaemonFC "Hi, [05:28] DaemonFC for what it's worth, the "dialog-question" is part of the [05:28] DaemonFC specification, still the console snippet Philip pasted in his mail [05:28] DaemonFC shows an abort on it:" [05:28] DaemonFC :) [05:29] DaemonFC So you should follow the specification, which they have also violated with the icon pack changes. [05:29] DaemonFC Well, that clarifies things. [05:29] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:34] DaemonFC Seems that once one icon fails to load, they all fail to load. So in removing "dialog-question", the GNOME developers have broken anything that tries to load it, even though it's part of the specification, and the other icons the program is trying to load may still be there. [05:34] DaemonFC :) [05:39] DaemonFC "I'm happy to report that all of the HARDWARE works wonderfully, and Fedora manages to brush all of those unsightly UEFI bugs under the rug with a spiffy bootsplash." [05:39] DaemonFC "(In Debian, there's an awkward transition between the GRUB bootloader and the Debian splash screen where Lenovo's UEFI BIOS vomits out a couple of dozen errors, which the Linux kernel prints to the screen. They're there even if you use Windows, but Microsoft hides them to make Lenovo look less dodgy.)" [05:41] TR News Social control media -- no matter if federated, or decentralised, or peer to peer, or "open source", or free/libre -- is generally a waste of time. Hard to maintain, distracting, and totally not worth it. Set up blogs, use RSS feeds. Vastly better. [05:41] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163404 [05:41] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [05:42] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The triple buffering patch in GNOME Shell 42 seems to make a huge difference in how fast the Shell renders things to the screen. [05:45] DaemonFC Fedora is using BtrFS with Compression now. [05:45] DaemonFC Not "force" though. So it basically tests a little of each file it wants to write and if it's not compressing well, it just gives up and commits it to the disk without making a full pass. [05:47] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.71 k/sec., IPFS upstream 89.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 430.90 ● Apr 06 [06:06] DaemonFC I like what I've seen lately with the BtrFS work. [06:06] DaemonFC There have been a lot of deletions of some really dodgy driver-specific code, and it's using the Linux VFS in more places now. [06:09] DaemonFC Nice. Lutris is in the default Fedora repo. [06:10] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: I read yours, you read mine? [06:10] DaemonFC Yeah [06:10] schestowitz-TR still finalising mine [06:10] schestowitz-TR you were right [06:10] schestowitz-TR I was wrong [06:10] DaemonFC I'm not sure that GNOME software will ever work right. [06:10] schestowitz-TR social control media is BS [06:11] schestowitz-TR but you are still on FB [06:11] DaemonFC Barely. [06:11] DaemonFC Mostly to harass my dad and AppleInsider. [06:11] DaemonFC :) [06:12] DaemonFC GNOME Software be all like: "Not sure if really fucked or just looks like fucked and will eventually install your app." [06:13] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Elon Musk is Twitter jumping the shark. [06:14] schestowitz-TR yes [06:14] schestowitz-TR I saw that [06:14] schestowitz-TR saudis [06:14] schestowitz-TR gates [06:14] schestowitz-TR now musk [06:14] DaemonFC Why would he want to buy it to own it? That's essentially what his SEC filing said. Long Term Investor [06:14] schestowitz-TR this is what Twitter is FOR [06:14] schestowitz-TR But I did not mention it [06:14] schestowitz-TR draft ready: [06:14] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/social-control-media-is-junk/ [06:14] TR Bot Thoughts on Quitting Social Control Media, One Month Later | Techrights [06:14] schestowitz now a bunch of fools are jumping for Musk [06:14] schestowitz to make him richer [06:15] schestowitz giving him "content" [06:15] schestowitz not me... [06:15] schestowitz DaemonFC: see the above, it's short [06:15] DaemonFC Mandy puts our pictures on his Facebook account. [06:15] DaemonFC You know MARISOL is seeing this. [06:16] DaemonFC I've told him. He won't stop. [06:17] DaemonFC "USENET" Not really a form of social control. In fact, the ISPs stopped providing free access to it because no corporation was going to centralize and control it, and use it to vomit advertisements all over your screen. [06:17] DaemonFC And if you got kicked off of one NNTP server, then there were a million others where that came from. [06:18] DaemonFC And if your USENET provider went away, there were more. It's a layer of the Internet. As long as you have _an_ ISP, it works. [06:18] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [06:19] DaemonFC schestowitz, I wish someone would make a peer-to-peer social media that didn't require servers or put anyone in control. [06:19] DaemonFC It seems like an idea whose time came years ago and nobody ever did it. [06:20] DaemonFC When Musk says he wants Free Speech, he just means he wants to say whatever HE wants. [06:20] DaemonFC It's never going to be no rules for you. [06:21] DaemonFC Musk gets away with showing his ass to the IRS and the SEC and nothing happens and then he complains he's being persecuted, which is therefore a delusion or he knows it's bullshit and says it anyway. [06:22] DaemonFC "A lot of free video hosting will shut down or become like television (broadcast conglomerates with advertising)." [06:23] DaemonFC Yes, YouTube is turning into a streaming app. I'm guessing the end of "user content" is near. [06:23] DaemonFC PornHub was fine with looking the other way while people uploaded anything they wanted to. [06:24] DaemonFC Then they cleared it all out and said it was because there may have been some CP that slipped in, so here go people's entire accounts and hundreds or thousands of terabytes of stuff, ruining some people's way of making a living even. [06:24] DaemonFC And sure that was a porn site, but YouTube will do the same thing with user content. [06:24] DaemonFC They got where they are now, and now they don't need it. [06:25] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@b84sqgpqegsdg.irc) has joined #techrights [06:26] schestowitz-TR right [06:26] schestowitz-TR I agree [06:27] schestowitz-TR Mandy is a liability in this regard [06:27] schestowitz-TR you should both agree on what's uploaded [06:27] schestowitz-TR rianne and I upload no photos unless BOTH of us review it [06:27] DaemonFC https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=4d1b97f9ce7c0d2af2bb85b12d48e6902172a28e [06:27] TR Bot kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree [06:27] schestowitz-TR and it goes into our own site, not ClearviewBook (FB) [06:28] TR News Thoughts on Quitting Social Control Media, One Month Later... | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/social-control-media-is-junk/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/06/social-control-media-is-junk/ [06:28] TR Bot Thoughts on Quitting Social Control Media, One Month Later | Techrights [06:28] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I'm getting a $400 check from Facebook apparently. [06:29] DaemonFC It was the Illinois BIPA law that brought down Facial Recognition. [06:29] DaemonFC They decided to get rid of it after losing all of that money. [06:30] TR News Shilling Microsoft spying on Gemini? Not good optics :/ "linkedin is my favorite social network right now." gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi [06:30] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: I hope millions will cash in on this [06:30] schestowitz-TR to cause FB noticeable financial damage [06:31] DaemonFC They said if the first round of checks doesn't deplete the money, we get another round of checks with more. [06:31] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buYrBbwyCGE [06:31] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=buYrBbwyCGE [06:31] TR Bot yewtu.be | I Can't Decide - Invidious [06:32] DaemonFC I remembered this when I was rewatching Doctor Who. [06:32] TR News There are now about 2,300 known Gemini capsules gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi [06:32] kingoffrance yes, its a mystery broadband became widespread and p2p vanished. [06:32] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: notice how: [06:33] kingoffrance naturally should be the other way around [06:33] schestowitz-TR youtube won't yield a title [06:33] schestowitz-TR demands javscript [06:33] schestowitz-TR won't give title unless you run proprietary program [06:33] schestowitz-TR unless you use a decent browser like librewolf, expect many ads [06:33] schestowitz-TR gulagtube was a GIANT bair and switch [06:34] schestowitz-TR I see channels with like 100,000 "subscribers" and not even 1000 views [06:34] schestowitz-TR makes you wonder how they distribute their traffic [06:34] schestowitz-TR 'traffic-shaping'\ [06:34] schestowitz-TR Twitter does the same [06:34] schestowitz-TR people who follow you barely see anything you post [06:34] schestowitz-TR it's "not profitable" [06:35] schestowitz-TR notification in twitter are not RECOMMENDATIONS [06:35] schestowitz-TR they RECOMMEND things to you [06:35] schestowitz-TR instead of actual notifications [06:37] DaemonFC Fedora is still building Firefox with GCC. [06:37] DaemonFC Debian switched to Clang/LLVM. [06:40] DaemonFC Just noticed that. [06:52] schestowitz DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/twitter-is-spam/ [06:52] TR Bot Musks Bubble: Twitter Notifications Turned Into SPAM and Recommendations (to Drive Up Engagement by Adding Noise) | Techrights [06:52] schestowitz see imagte [06:52] schestowitz report typos ;-) [06:52] schestowitz I'm still checking [06:57] TR News Musks Bubble: Twitter Notifications Turned Into SPAM and Recommendations (to Drive Up Engagement by Adding Noise) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/twitter-is-spam/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/06/twitter-is-spam/ [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.93 k/sec., IPFS upstream 91.20 average k/sec., average swarm size 311.08 ● Apr 06 [07:01] TR News According to statcounter, GNU/Linux is now over 5% on desktops/laptops [07:02] TR News Of course the share of GNU/Linux is greater than Apple's in many countries, e.g. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/poland/#monthly-200901-202204 [07:02] Alternative link CloudFlare: statcounter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/poland/#monthly-200901-202204 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/poland/#monthly-200901-202204 [07:02] TR Bot Desktop Operating System Market Share Poland | Statcounter Global Stats [07:08] DaemonFC Looks good. Must get going. [07:08] DaemonFC bbiab [07:08] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:46] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@f2uucmx8wdxxw.irc) has joined #techrights [07:49] TR News Ghostscript 9.56.1 Released with Apple Raster Support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163405 [07:49] TR Bot Ghostscript 9.56.1 Released with Apple Raster Support | Tux Machines [07:51] TR News Ghostscript 9.56.1 Released with Apple Raster Support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163405 [07:51] TR News Firefox 99 Brings New ReaderMode Feature and Security Fixes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163406 [07:51] TR Bot Firefox 99 Brings New ReaderMode Feature and Security Fixes | Tux Machines [07:51] *kingoffrance has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 39.66 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.20 average k/sec., average swarm size 353.55 ● Apr 06 [08:05] *darwin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:22] TR News Musks Bubble: Twitter Notifications Turned Into SPAM and Recommendations (to Drive Up Engagement by Adding Noise) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/twitter-is-spam/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/06/twitter-is-spam/ [08:39] TR News IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, April 05, 2022 | Techrights

Read more [08:39] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, April 05, 2022 | Techrights [08:39] TR News Just 2 IPv4 Addresses for a Planet With Almost 2 People | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/ipv4-limits/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/06/ipv4-limits/ [08:39] TR Bot Just 2 IPv4 Addresses for a Planet With Almost 2 People | Techrights [08:41] TR News Still no mention from RMS of his upcoming FSF talk https://stallman.org/talks.html [08:41] TR Bot Talks - Richard Stallman [08:48] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163407 [08:48] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [08:54] TR News Privacy-focused Linux distro Tails 5 Beta now available for download with many critical security bug fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163379#comment-33284 [08:54] TR Bot Tails 5.0 Enters Beta Testing as First Release Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye | Tux Machines [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 37.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 34.60 average k/sec., average swarm size 323.33 ● Apr 06 [09:05] TR News NuTyX 22.04.1 available with cards 2.5.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163408 [09:05] TR Bot NuTyX 22.04.1 available with cards 2.5.0 | Tux Machines [09:13] TR News New Raspberry Pi: Compute Module 4S Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163409 [09:13] TR Bot New Raspberry Pi: Compute Module 4S | Tux Machines [09:15] *ziraffep has quit (Quit) [09:17] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@wsiqic47hk5gc.irc) has joined #techrights [09:24] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:26] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:27] *activelow (~activelow@up8i4jsfapvuu.irc) has joined #techrights [09:28] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [09:31] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [09:33] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@txkdaiuveepza.irc) has joined #techrights [09:34] TR News "How do you prove that you know something secret without revealing the secret?" https://matt-rickard.com/zero-knowledge-proofs/ [09:34] Alternative link CloudFlare: matt-rickard.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/zero-knowledge-proofs/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://matt-rickard.com/zero-knowledge-proofs/ [09:34] TR Bot Zero Knowledge Proofs [09:35] TR News "The new audio confirms that the speed of sound is slower on Mars than on Earth, a result that was expected since the motion of acoustic waves" https://www.vice.com/en/article/dyp9pa/sound-on-mars-has-a-unique-and-extremely-trippy-property-recordings-reveal [09:35] TR Bot Sound on Mars Has a 'Unique' And Extremely Trippy Property, Recordings Reveal [09:39] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [09:40] TR News "digitized test result certificate which can be used as proof" https://www.who.int/news/item/31-03-2022-who-launches-guidance-on-digitally-documenting-sars-cov-2-test-results [09:40] Alternative link CloudFlare: who.int | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.who.int/news/item/31-03-2022-who-launches-guidance-on-digitally-documenting-sars-cov-2-test-results https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.who.int/news/item/31-03-2022-who-launches-guidance-on-digitally-documenting-sars-cov-2-test-results [09:40] TR Bot WHO launches guidance on digitally documenting SARS-CoV-2 test results [09:41] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/google-blames-microsoft-monoculture-for-govt-security-problems.html [09:41] Alternative link CloudFlare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/google-blames-microsoft-monoculture-for-govt-security-problems.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/google-blames-microsoft-monoculture-for-govt-security-problems.html [09:41] TR Bot - Google blames Microsoft 'monoculture' for govt security problems [09:42] TR News "Have a look at our roadmap to see where we are heading to" https://tails.boum.org/news/version_4.29/index.en.html [09:42] TR Bot Tails - Tails 4.29 is out [09:42] TR News "Australia's news media bargaining code is being reviewed after its first year of operation, but the Federal Government has signalled that it will not force any company that has not adhered to the requirements of the code to do so." https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/news-media-code-review-will-go-easy-on-facebook-again.html [09:42] Alternative link CloudFlare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/news-media-code-review-will-go-easy-on-facebook-again.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/news-media-code-review-will-go-easy-on-facebook-again.html [09:43] TR Bot - News media code review will go easy on Facebook again [09:44] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:44] TR News "As WikiLeaks founder and publisher Julian Assange remains in the UK's Belmarsh Prison, waiting for the next move in the US bid to extradite him" https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/wikileaks-marks-12-years-since-release-of-collateral-murder-video.html [09:44] Alternative link CloudFlare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/wikileaks-marks-12-years-since-release-of-collateral-murder-video.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/wikileaks-marks-12-years-since-release-of-collateral-murder-video.html [09:44] TR Bot - WikiLeaks marks 12 years since release of Collateral Murder video [09:46] TR News Rocannon's World by Ursula K. Le Guin gemini://calcuode.com/gemlog/2021-01-19_rocannons-world.gmi [09:47] TR News Major lifestyle changes are required to stop global warming https://today.rtl.lu/news/luxembourg/a/1893347.html [09:47] TR Bot RTL Today - Luxembourg IPCC Representative: Major lifestyle changes are required to stop global warming, says Andrew Ferrone [09:47] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@ceb7pwx63iegq.irc) has joined #techrights [09:49] TR News "Ministers said last year that privatization would help secure Channel 4's future as a public service broadcaster" https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/05/media/channel-4-uk-privatization/index.html [09:49] Alternative link CloudFlare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/05/media/channel-4-uk-privatization/index.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/05/media/channel-4-uk-privatization/index.html [09:49] TR Bot Channel 4: UK government to privatize public service broadcaster - CNN [09:49] TR News "Last week, the EU reached an agreement on a core piece of platform regulation, the Digital Markets Act." https://felixreda.eu/2022/04/digital-markets-act-publishers-ancillary-copyright/ [09:49] TR Bot Felix Reda Digital Markets Act: Dispute over press publishers shows whats wrong with EU legislation [09:50] TR News Oligarch "Bloomberg opinion suggested we give Amazon and Facebook a seat at the United Nations as commercial superpowers" https://alirezahayati.com/2022/04/04/give-amazon-and-facebook-more-power-human-idiocy-has-no-limit-whatsoever/ [09:50] TR Bot Give Amazon and Facebook more power? Human idiocy has no limit whatsoever! - Ali Reza Hayati [09:53] TR News russian [09:53] TR News russian [09:53] TR News Misinformation/Disinformation thrives online https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/04/russian-propaganda-zelensky-information-war/629475/ [09:53] Alternative link CloudFlare: theatlantic.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/04/russian-propaganda-zelensky-information-war/629475/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/04/russian-propaganda-zelensky-information-war/629475/ [09:53] TR Bot Stop Saying Ukraine Is Winning the Information War - The Atlantic [09:53] TR News Boycott Twitter https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/5/23011810/elon-musk-twitter-sec-board-member-moderation [09:53] TR Bot Elon Musktweeted his way onto Twitters board now what? - The Verge [09:54] SomeH4x0r corporations, the big evil, is winning [09:54] TR News Boycott Twitter https://www.salon.com/2022/04/05/elon-musk-blows-up-twitter-with-board-of-directors-announcement/ [09:54] Alternative link CloudFlare: salon.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.salon.com/2022/04/05/elon-musk-blows-up-twitter-with-board-of-directors-announcement/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.salon.com/2022/04/05/elon-musk-blows-up-twitter-with-board-of-directors-announcement/ [09:54] TR Bot Musk blows up Twitter with board of directors announcement | Salon.com [09:54] SomeH4x0r it is not on either side [09:54] SomeH4x0r just money matters for them [09:54] SomeH4x0r they will make whatever political claims to earn more [09:54] TR News Twitter is worthless. Graft scammers make a bubble, as usual. https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/market/twitter-shares-soar-after-elon-musk-9-2-stake-revealed.html [09:54] Alternative link CloudFlare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/market/twitter-shares-soar-after-elon-musk-9-2-stake-revealed.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/market/twitter-shares-soar-after-elon-musk-9-2-stake-revealed.html [09:54] TR Bot - Twitter shares soar after Elon Musk 9.2% stake revealed [09:55] TR News "Twitter is shifting the way it does business, moving away from ad-generated revenue and into the crypto and NFT" (IOW a SCAM) https://screenrant.com/elon-musk-twitter-investment-crypto-project/ [09:55] TR Bot Did Elon Musk Buy His Way Into Twitter For Its Crypto Project? [09:56] TR News ">The focus this time is about the practicalities of the user facing shell the cancerous and confused mass that hides behind the seemingly harmless command-line prompt." https://arcan-fe.com/2022/04/02/the-day-of-a-new-command-line-interface-shell [09:57] TR Bot The Day of a new Command-Line Interface: Shell | Arcan [09:58] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream theyre winning because weve let them rig the entire world in their favour [09:58] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream that needs to change [09:58] TR News "Often these are journalists already established in their home country. But some like Zubova are new to the profession and learning on the job" https://www.voanews.com/a/from-exporting-goods-to-the-news-ukrainians-swap-day-jobs-for-journalism/6514865.html [09:58] TR Bot From Exporting Goods to the News: Ukrainians Swap Day Jobs for Journalism [09:59] TR News And if you sue and the police loses, you (the taxpayer) will pay https://text.npr.org/1090857790 [09:59] TR Bot Supreme Court makes it easier to sue the police for malicious prosecution [09:59] Alternative link CloudFlare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://text.npr.org/1090857790 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://text.npr.org/1090857790 ● Apr 06 [10:02] TR News Patents are again killing millions of people to increase profit https://www.democracynow.org/2022/4/5/poor_peoples_campaign_2022_pandemic_report [10:02] TR Bot A Poor Peoples Pandemic: Report Reveals Poor Died from COVID at Twice the Rate of Wealthy in U.S. | Democracy Now! [10:02] TR News Purism: A Vision in Focus Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163410 [10:02] TR Bot Purism: A Vision in Focus | Tux Machines [10:06] *a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream has quit (connection closed) [10:12] TR News Waiting for the Boat to Sink or Disembarking Early | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/no-free-lunch/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/06/no-free-lunch/ [10:12] TR Bot Waiting for the Boat to Sink or Disembarking Early | Techrights [10:13] *a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream (~a_taco_that_shits_i@pa58mtxm8bjpq.irc) has joined #techrights [10:13] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream just catching up [10:13] a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream lol [10:13] *a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream is now known as matey [10:13] TR News "International music industry group IFPI has submitted its recommendations for the EU's upcoming 'Counterfeit and Piracy Watch List." https://torrentfreak.com/music-industry-flags-discord-and-reddit-as-primary-piracy-threats-220405/ [10:13] Alternative link CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/music-industry-flags-discord-and-reddit-as-primary-piracy-threats-220405/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/music-industry-flags-discord-and-reddit-as-primary-piracy-threats-220405/ [10:13] TR Bot Industry Flags Discord and Reddit as Primary Piracy Threats * TorrentFreak [10:13] matey gnome is gnome-19 [10:13] matey i was right about twitter (for now) [10:14] matey oh, and debian is leaving behind gcc (i mean, they wont stop here) [10:14] matey put it in your talk, rms [10:14] matey nope, you wont [10:15] matey hopefully trisquel has their own build of firefux [10:16] matey otherwise theyll be just a little more of a farce. again. [10:16] matey rms: llvm/clang has only one purpose, to not be copyleft [10:17] matey trisquel: lets base on ubuntu [10:17] matey hilarity ensues [10:17] matey moot (and nicely so) if trisquel actually builds the entire repo [10:17] matey never was clear if they do that or just mirror packages that arent on the blacklist [10:18] matey should have a poke at some repos and check dates and hashes [10:20] *matey has quit (connection closed) [10:21] TR News Links 05/04/2022: NuTyX 22.04.1 and Ghostscript 9.56.1 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/nutyx-22-04-1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/06/nutyx-22-04-1/ [10:21] TR Bot Links 05/04/2022: NuTyX 22.04.1 and Ghostscript 9.56.1 | Techrights [10:21] TR News Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Logic Pro Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163411 [10:23] TR Bot Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Logic Pro | Tux Machines [10:23] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163412 [10:23] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [10:23] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163413 [10:23] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [10:24] TR News Mozilla Firefox 99.0: here is what is new http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163382#comment-33285 [10:24] TR Bot Firefox 99 Released with GTK Overlay Scrollbar Support, Fixes | Tux Machines [10:26] schestowitz-TR basing on Ubuntu is doable [10:27] schestowitz-TR but might be pointless [10:27] schestowitz-TR as it's debian+snap and other crap [10:27] schestowitz-TR and lots of ICBM crap via Fedora [10:27] schestowitz-TR it's NOT as bad as Windows [10:27] schestowitz-TR that's the main selling point [10:27] schestowitz-TR here's our marketing slogan [10:27] schestowitz-TR "LINUX: NOT AS BAD AS WINDOWS!" [10:29] TR News Social control media is generally a waste of time; no president (or state leader) was ousted because of the number of likes (theyre not even a currency) and all Social Control Media Web sites are short-lived bubbles of disorganised (mis)information http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/social-control-media-is-junk/ [10:29] TR Bot Thoughts on Quitting Social Control Media, One Month Later | Techrights [10:29] TR News Twitter isnt means of communication; Twitter looks like a dying platform desperate for attention; the above is an annotated screenshot of my notifications bar this morning (theres more noise than signal) http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/twitter-is-spam/ [10:29] TR Bot Musks Bubble: Twitter Notifications Turned Into SPAM and Recommendations (to Drive Up Engagement by Adding Noise) | Techrights [10:30] TR News This talk is about the IPv4 Unicast Extensions Project, which is proposing software and standards changes to eventually make reserved addresses usable." http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/ipv4-limits/ [10:30] TR Bot Just 2 IPv4 Addresses for a Planet With Almost 2 People | Techrights [10:30] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163414 [10:30] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [10:31] TR News The free platforms one can sign up for online (GitHub, Twitter, YouTube and so on) arent free at all; their true cost is becoming more apparent over time http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/no-free-lunch/ [10:31] TR Bot Waiting for the Boat to Sink or Disembarking Early | Techrights [10:32] SomeH4x0r stop reproduction [10:32] SomeH4x0r and drop a few nuclear bombs [10:33] schestowitz-TR you don't need both [10:34] schestowitz-TR the likelihood of the second grows as a result of the first [10:35] TR News antitrust reform https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/senator-ken-buck-threatens-to-use-antitrust-to-attack-woke-apple/ Apple is NOT "woke". Apple is aggressive, oppressive, militaristic. [10:35] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/senator-ken-buck-threatens-to-use-antitrust-to-attack-woke-apple/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/senator-ken-buck-threatens-to-use-antitrust-to-attack-woke-apple/ [10:35] TR Bot Ken Buck Threatens To Use Antitrust To Attack Woke Apple | Techdirt [10:36] TR News Quit calling tech companies "liberal"; you clearly know nothing about liberalism. http://techrights.org/2020/06/13/bill-gates-not-a-liberal/ [10:36] TR Bot Quit Calling Bill Gates a Liberal | Techrights [10:36] TR News "Weve already talked about how Georgia looks to be moving forward with its clearly unconstitutional content moderation bill." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/florida-has-already-wasted-over-700k-of-taxpayer-funds-defending-its-unconstitutional-content-moderation-bill/ [10:36] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/florida-has-already-wasted-over-700k-of-taxpayer-funds-defending-its-unconstitutional-content-moderation-bill/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/florida-has-already-wasted-over-700k-of-taxpayer-funds-defending-its-unconstitutional-content-moderation-bill/ [10:36] TR Bot Has Already Wasted Over $700k Of Taxpayer Funds Defending Its Unconstitutional Content Moderation Bill | Techdirt [10:37] TR News "Obituaries for Albright in the mainstream media described the expansion of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization as her greatest diplomatic achievement." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/albright-and-clinton-two-peas-in-the-pod-of-liberal-interventionism/ [10:37] Alternative link CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/albright-and-clinton-two-peas-in-the-pod-of-liberal-interventionism/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/albright-and-clinton-two-peas-in-the-pod-of-liberal-interventionism/ [10:37] TR Bot and Clinton: Two Peas in the Pod of Liberal Interventionism - CounterPunch.org [10:38] TR News "At its origins, we were promised the entry to The Golden Age of Computer Networks. Instead, what emerged under capitalism was the Internet becoming [...] gold mine for a handful of corporations." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/three-internet-creating-ideologies/ [10:38] Alternative link CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/three-internet-creating-ideologies/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/three-internet-creating-ideologies/ [10:38] TR Bot Internet-Creating Ideologies - CounterPunch.org [10:39] mjg59_ I feel like criticising NATO expansionism while Russia is invading a country that had expressly indicated it wanted to be part of NATO is a bit tone deaf? [10:40] TR News Has Bezos Post commented on it yet? https://truthout.org/articles/amazon-will-ban-words-like-union-living-wage-in-worker-app-documents-find/ https://truthout.org/articles/bernie-sanders-hails-growing-union-movement-as-an-antidote-to-oligarchy/ [10:40] Alternative link CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/amazon-will-ban-words-like-union-living-wage-in-worker-app-documents-find/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/amazon-will-ban-words-like-union-living-wage-in-worker-app-documents-find/ [10:40] TR Bot Amazon Will Ban Words Like Union, Living Wage in Worker App, Documents Find [10:40] TR Bot Bernie Sanders Hails Growing Union Movement as an Antidote to Oligarchy [10:41] TR News More on SweatshopZone ttps://truthout.org/articles/amazon-workers-at-over-50-buildings-have-contacted-the-union-about-organizing/ [10:41] TR News "Sen. Bernie Sanders delivered a floor speech on Monday hailing the growing wave of union victories across the United States" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/sanders-hails-growing-union-movement-threat-oligarchy-and-corporate-greed [10:41] Alternative link CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/sanders-hails-growing-union-movement-threat-oligarchy-and-corporate-greed https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/sanders-hails-growing-union-movement-threat-oligarchy-and-corporate-greed [10:41] TR Bot Sanders Hails Growing Union Movement as Threat to 'Oligarchy and Corporate Greed' [10:42] TR News "SweatshopZone spent over $4 million in trying to defeat the union drive." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/the-growing-union-movement/ [10:42] Alternative link CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/the-growing-union-movement/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/the-growing-union-movement/ [10:42] TR Bot Growing Union Movement - CounterPunch.org [10:43] TR News "The first step is to see if youre already technically buzzword compliant. Do you have an existing system or product that fits that buzzword?" https://mwl.io/archives/15562 [10:44] TR Bot Kickstarter and Blockchain Michael Warren Lucas [10:44] TR News "I use a very custom desktop which requires me to do a lot of stuff by hand that's probably covered automatically (or with a general setting) by more standard desktops. With that said, the three big areas that I had to change were font selections, window sizes, and window positions." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/HiDPIMyXSettingsII [10:44] Alternative link CloudFlare: utoronto.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/HiDPIMyXSettingsII https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/HiDPIMyXSettingsII [10:44] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/HiDPIMyXSettingsII [10:44] TR News "My answer was easy: HTML. And I wasnt being sarcastic or mocking in the least. Sure, I pretty much know which tags to use in which instances and how to keep my HTML mostly semantic and accessible" https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2022/03/html-attributes-you-never-use/ [10:44] Alternative link CloudFlare: smashingmagazine.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2022/03/html-attributes-you-never-use/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2022/03/html-attributes-you-never-use/ [10:44] TR Bot Those HTML Attributes You Never Use Smashing Magazine [10:45] schestowitz mjg59_: https://geographicalimaginations.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/backpage-11601.jpg?w=584 [10:47] TR News He would just completely disengage, lie on the floor, start playing with the toys, literally turn his back to the computer, try to close it, said mother Julia Toof of her son, who, at the time, was just shy of 3-years-old. It just didnt work. https://www.projectcensored.org/how-mask-wearing-to-prevent-spread-of-covid-19-impacts-children-in-speech-therapy/ [10:47] Alternative link CloudFlare: projectcensored.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.projectcensored.org/how-mask-wearing-to-prevent-spread-of-covid-19-impacts-children-in-speech-therapy/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.projectcensored.org/how-mask-wearing-to-prevent-spread-of-covid-19-impacts-children-in-speech-therapy/ [10:47] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/how-mask-wearing-to-prevent-spread-of-covid-19-impacts-children-in-speech-therapy/ ) [10:48] TR News Elementary OS Faces Uncertain Future After Co-Founder Split http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162346#comment-33286 [10:48] TR Bot elementary OS is imploding | Tux Machines [10:49] TR News EFF wrote this WHILE TAKING MONEY FROM GULAG https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/google-fights-dragnet-warrant-users-search-histories-overseas-while-continuing [10:49] TR Bot Google Fights Dragnet Warrant for Users Search Histories Overseas While Continuing to Give Data to Police in the U.S. | Electronic Frontier Foundation [10:50] TR News flintfox has just killed itself https://itwire.com/it-people-news/people-moves/flintfox-appoints-microsoft-veteran-chris-dieringer-as-chief-customer-officer.html [10:50] Alternative link CloudFlare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/it-people-news/people-moves/flintfox-appoints-microsoft-veteran-chris-dieringer-as-chief-customer-officer.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/it-people-news/people-moves/flintfox-appoints-microsoft-veteran-chris-dieringer-as-chief-customer-officer.html [10:50] TR Bot - Flintfox appoints Microsoft veteran Chris Dieringer as chief customer officer [10:51] TR News The guitarist who saved hundreds of people on a sinking cruise liner - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-60841291 Source: bbc [10:51] TR Bot The guitarist who saved hundreds of people on a sinking cruise liner - BBC News [10:52] mjg59_ schestowitz: Sorry, is this supposed to indicate that NATO has engaged in genocide? [10:53] schestowitz-TR Roy: US has over 1,000 military bases worldwide [10:53] mjg59_ schestowitz: It wouldn't surprise me, but I'm not aware of any cases where NATO operations have been documented to execute tied up civilians [10:53] schestowitz-TR Matt the Empire Guy: Roy, are you defending genocide??? [10:53] schestowitz-TR reminds me why I should just ignore you [10:53] mjg59_ I'm trying to understand the point you're making! [10:53] schestowitz-TR don't wtry [10:53] schestowitz-TR leave me alone [10:54] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:54] mjg59_ Right now a country that wanted to join NATO to defend itself against a hostile neighbour has been invaded by that neighbour [10:54] mjg59_ Would it have been better or worse for them to have joined NATO? [10:56] TR News "On March 9th, we covered a Virginia courts decision to reject a geofence/reverse warrant as unconstitutional." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/law-prof-suggests-geofence-warrants-are-a-net-gain-for-the-public-even-if-they-invert-the-probable-cause-standard/ [10:56] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/law-prof-suggests-geofence-warrants-are-a-net-gain-for-the-public-even-if-they-invert-the-probable-cause-standard/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/law-prof-suggests-geofence-warrants-are-a-net-gain-for-the-public-even-if-they-invert-the-probable-cause-standard/ [10:56] TR Bot Prof Suggests Geofence Warrants Are A Net Gain For The Public, Even If They Invert The Probable Cause Standard | Techdirt [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 105.05 average k/sec., average swarm size 230.70 ● Apr 06 [11:02] TR News "Inflation is at a 40-year peak." https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/as-prices-soar-we-need-action-not-spin/ [11:02] Alternative link CloudFlare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/as-prices-soar-we-need-action-not-spin/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/as-prices-soar-we-need-action-not-spin/ [11:02] TR Bot As Prices Soar, We Need ActionNot Spin | The Nation [11:02] TR News Boycott Starbucks https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/ceo-howard-schultz-ripped-saying-starbucks-being-assaulted-unionization [11:02] Alternative link CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/ceo-howard-schultz-ripped-saying-starbucks-being-assaulted-unionization https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/ceo-howard-schultz-ripped-saying-starbucks-being-assaulted-unionization [11:02] TR Bot CEO Howard Schultz Ripped for Saying Starbucks 'Being Assaulted' by Unionization [11:05] TR News Stop saying "Big Tech"; you help the lobbying of Microsoft criminals https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/big-tech-congress/ [11:05] Alternative link CloudFlare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/big-tech-congress/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/big-tech-congress/ [11:05] TR Bot Big Tech Is Making an Investment in Congress | The Nation [11:06] TR News "Normally when discussing a company that has appeared on our pages before for being a trademark bully" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/monster-energy-suing-a-fishing-gear-company-claiming-customer-confusion/ [11:06] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/monster-energy-suing-a-fishing-gear-company-claiming-customer-confusion/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/monster-energy-suing-a-fishing-gear-company-claiming-customer-confusion/ [11:06] TR Bot Energy Suing A Fishing Gear Company Claiming Customer Confusion | Techdirt [11:06] TR News israel exports malware https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/clearview-ai-walks-back-earlier-claims-is-now-willing-to-sell-its-sketchy-product-to-anyone-with-money-and-a-pulse/ [11:06] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/clearview-ai-walks-back-earlier-claims-is-now-willing-to-sell-its-sketchy-product-to-anyone-with-money-and-a-pulse/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/clearview-ai-walks-back-earlier-claims-is-now-willing-to-sell-its-sketchy-product-to-anyone-with-money-and-a-pulse/ [11:06] TR Bot AI Walks Back Earlier Claims, Is Now Willing To Sell Its Sketchy Product To Anyone With Money And A Pulse | Techdirt [11:08] TR News GOP = Censorship https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/library-group-launches-anti-censorship-campaign-combat-gop-book-banning-wave [11:08] Alternative link CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/library-group-launches-anti-censorship-campaign-combat-gop-book-banning-wave https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/library-group-launches-anti-censorship-campaign-combat-gop-book-banning-wave [11:08] TR Bot Library Group Launches Anti-Censorship Campaign to Combat GOP Book-Banning Wave [11:09] TR News No money for life, just for killing people, or for war (also, more patents to kill more people for profit) https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/aid-groups-warn-more-variants-will-emerge-if-congress-kills-global-covid-funds [11:09] Alternative link CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/aid-groups-warn-more-variants-will-emerge-if-congress-kills-global-covid-funds https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/aid-groups-warn-more-variants-will-emerge-if-congress-kills-global-covid-funds [11:09] TR Bot Aid Groups Warn 'More Variants Will Emerge' If Congress Kills Global Covid Funds [11:10] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@en9btm8dsjebe.irc) has joined #techrights [11:11] TR News "According to the state of Georgia's Standards of Excellence for teaching the Reconstruction era to eighth-graders, students ought to "compare and contrast the goals and outcomes of the Freedmen's Bureau and the Ku Klux Klan." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/05/why-gop-very-afraid-students-learning-real-history-reconstruction [11:11] Alternative link CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/05/why-gop-very-afraid-students-learning-real-history-reconstruction https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/05/why-gop-very-afraid-students-learning-real-history-reconstruction [11:11] TR Bot Opinion | Why the GOP Is Very Afraid of Students Learning the Real History of Reconstruction | Ursula Wolfe-Rocca [11:12] TR News What GOP and Taliban have in common https://truthout.org/articles/tennessee-republicans-push-a-bill-that-would-circumvent-marriage-age-limits/ [11:12] Alternative link CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/tennessee-republicans-push-a-bill-that-would-circumvent-marriage-age-limits/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/tennessee-republicans-push-a-bill-that-would-circumvent-marriage-age-limits/ [11:12] TR Bot Tennessee Republicans Push a Bill That Would Circumvent Marriage Age Limits [11:12] schestowitz-TR oops, posted to wrong channel [11:14] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Looks like Fedora 36 cleaned up all of the legacy "ifcfg* compatibility crap. [11:14] DaemonFC Debian definitely still recognizes and prefers settings in legacy ifcfg format. [11:15] DaemonFC Fedora describes them as roughly 130,000 lines of dead code that's been hanging around forever causing bugs and maintainability problems. [11:16] DaemonFC "Not counting the massive testsuite." [11:17] schestowitz-TR yes, I saw that [11:17] schestowitz-TR ICBM is shit [11:17] DaemonFC It says that they date back to initscripts, so there's another large pile of sysvinit cobwebs gone. [11:17] DaemonFC I seriously doubt that anyone will want to maintain those now that Red Hat doesn't. [11:17] schestowitz-TR to them, [11:17] schestowitz-TR it's about money [11:17] schestowitz-TR and not about supporting hardware [11:17] schestowitz-TR Money? Keep. [11:17] schestowitz-TR No money? Remove. [11:17] DaemonFC Well, here's the thing. [11:17] schestowitz-TR No sales?? STOP BEING POOR!!! [11:18] DaemonFC Debian 11 was super sketchy on my WiFi chip. [11:18] schestowitz lol https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/strong-job-growth-in-march-but-some-evidence-of-slowing-wage-growth/ [11:18] Alternative link CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/strong-job-growth-in-march-but-some-evidence-of-slowing-wage-growth/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/strong-job-growth-in-march-but-some-evidence-of-slowing-wage-growth/ [11:18] TR Bot Job Growth in March, But Some Evidence of Slowing Wage Growth - CounterPunch.org [11:18] schestowitz-TR it's like asking a person who recovered from COVID if s/he feels better now [11:19] DaemonFC I've not had the kernel error about it becoming out of sync with the router and being killed and reset (causing an "activation of network connection failed" message in my notifications) under Fedora 36, so that's cool. [11:19] DaemonFC Debian was pretty stable in most other ways though. [11:19] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: your connection still drops a lot [11:19] schestowitz-TR "trash can" [11:19] schestowitz-TR it can lose connection [11:20] DaemonFC Yeah, I bought a fan to set it on. [11:20] schestowitz-TR weird, as you live in IL iirc [11:20] schestowitz-TR and it's spring [11:20] DaemonFC It blows room air into the modem and out the top to prevent "modem on fire". [11:20] schestowitz-TR those routers should be OK with a weak processors [11:20] schestowitz-TR and you're only two connected users [11:20] schestowitz-TR sounds like a farce of a modem [11:20] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, BitTorrent going = NOKIA GO BRRRRRRRRR [11:20] DaemonFC :) [11:21] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [11:21] schestowitz-TR MinceR loves your car snoises [11:21] schestowitz-TR in words [11:21] schestowitz-TR I cannot remember what noise that was that had him lol [11:21] DaemonFC This 5G Home Internet Pod is a piece of fucking shit. It's the biggest piece of shit I've ever used. [11:22] DaemonFC As far as networking goes, it's even out there ahead of the Broadcom 4318 WiFI chip. [11:22] DaemonFC I cannot remember what noise that was that had him lol [11:22] DaemonFC It's hard to say. There's so many. [11:23] DaemonFC I mailed my city sticker tax to "City of Potholes". They actually put "City of Progress" on the envelope so I crossed out Progress and put Potholes. [11:24] DaemonFC DaemonFC: your connection still drops a lot [11:25] DaemonFC It's a laptop, so it's nice to have it go down when I reboot for updates or shut down for the night or something instead of the modem died or the iwlwifi module in the kernel goes "WTF is this crap!?" because Debian fed it the firmware that time forgot. [11:29] DaemonFC iwlwifi - "I want 68.01d30b0c.0 QuZ-a0-hr-b0-68.ucode feed me 68.01d30b0c.0 QuZ-a0-hr-b0-68.ucode.". Debian: "I don't have 68.01d30b0c.0 QuZ-a0-hr-b0-68.ucode here, load iwlwifi-QuZ-a0-hr-b0-63.ucode it's from last year and Ryan went out of his way to get it for you so you didn't have to use firmware revision 62, and that was after he also went out of his way so you'd have firmware at all because Debian says "You don't need a computer that [11:29] DaemonFC works. Why don't you love us daddy Stallman?". [11:29] schestowitz-TR but wait [11:29] schestowitz-TR adding the blobs is not so hard [11:29] schestowitz-TR esp. with experience [11:30] schestowitz-TR you put some file on usb, then insert it [11:30] DaemonFC So them iwlwifi says "Okay, okay, give me iwlwifi-QuZ-a0-hr-b0-63.ucode.....om nom nom....I don't feel so good. SPLAT!" [11:30] schestowitz-TR the media itself, the installer, does not have it [11:30] schestowitz-TR it's a catch-22 [11:30] schestowitz-TR as in order o fetch things from the NETWORK you might need a blog [11:30] schestowitz-TR to get NETWORKING going [11:30] schestowitz-TR that's why I could not put devuan on my new laptop [11:31] DaemonFC I have a lot of networking problems, you know. [11:31] DaemonFC Some of them are just the lag caused by NordVPN causing the connection on IRC timing out even though I never lost my connection. [11:32] DaemonFC the media itself, the installer, does not have it [11:32] DaemonFC The unofficial "oh you actually WANT your video chipset and wifi and SSD and sound to work?" ISO has the firmwares. [11:33] DaemonFC But Debian is incredibly juvenile and makes you suffer for asking it for firmware. [11:33] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: it is a one-time nuisance [11:33] schestowitz-TR it also lets you minimise blobs [11:33] DaemonFC It throws in stuff that doesn't even support what their kernel does. [11:33] schestowitz-TR like, if you can use free software driver for thingsa [11:34] *bnchs (~bnchs@uvrvmdam4apgn.irc) has joined #techrights [11:34] DaemonFC Without blobs, I can't even get my SSD to work properly. It has one from the UEFI firmware, so it will work. [11:34] DaemonFC But potentially with data corruption problems that were fixed in a loadable firmware that the kernel can load early on. [11:34] schestowitz-TR the firmware comes with its own risks [11:34] DaemonFC This is getting out of hand. [11:35] schestowitz-TR you focus on short-term convenience [11:35] schestowitz-TR the goal is to also get hardware companies to share the code [11:35] schestowitz-TR realtek got a lot of bad publicity for failing [11:35] DaemonFC There are not enough Debian users for those companies to care about. [11:35] schestowitz-TR untrue [11:35] DaemonFC So the situation is users not knowing what to do and having to hunt down unofficial ISOs. [11:36] schestowitz-TR debian is used on hundreds of millions of devices, maybe a billion [11:36] schestowitz-TR ubuntu counts too [11:36] SomeH4x0r corporations are EVIL [11:36] DaemonFC Fedora estimates the number of users based on who pings the update servers. It's not as accurate as if they actually tracked you. They don't. [11:36] schestowitz-TR debian is the "uniersal OS" [11:37] SomeH4x0r and such "universal" stuff is generally taken over by corporations [11:37] schestowitz-TR the same installs would be used for wired-only devices [11:37] DaemonFC Fedora supports quite a few platforms itself. [11:37] schestowitz-TR you wrongly assume only laptop/desktop users are targeted [11:37] schestowitz-TR their installers are foir archs [11:37] schestowitz-TR with different level of what's PRE-included [11:37] DaemonFC x86-64 PC, various arm systems including the Pi, and PowerPC obviously. [11:37] DaemonFC Ubuntu only does x86-64. [11:37] schestowitz-TR so you get it over the network when you download the ISO [11:38] schestowitz-TR instead of over apt AFTER you download the ISO [11:38] DaemonFC It gives Canonical less work to do because they don't delay a release because of failure to build on all of the architectures Debian has to maintain, but..... [11:38] schestowitz-TR debian benefits from it [11:38] DaemonFC Failure to build on something else can signal trouble on x86-64 as well. Just because it goes ahead and builds doesn't mean there's no problem. [11:38] schestowitz-TR lots of distros are debian based [11:39] schestowitz-TR even ones you barely know because they're for particular countries [11:39] schestowitz-TR and then you have devices and board that have debian on them [11:39] schestowitz-TR maybe even your modem [11:39] schestowitz-TR maybe it's some debian thing, as nokia did based some of its operating systems on debian [11:39] schestowitz-TR *base [11:40] schestowitz-TR fedora did support many archs [11:40] schestowitz-TR but ICBM lowers this [11:40] psydruid Ubuntu does x86-64, ARM, POWER, S/390 and RISC-V [11:40] schestowitz-TR it's about money [11:40] DaemonFC Yeah, but if they did then nothing stops them from throwing firmwares in. [11:40] schestowitz-TR those who obsess over "market share" [11:40] DaemonFC It's not something they care about. [11:40] schestowitz-TR because all that counts to them is money [11:41] schestowitz-TR and pie charts to show shareholders [11:41] DaemonFC Eh, at one point Ubuntu was bragging about only supporting x86. [11:41] schestowitz-TR maybe 2004 [11:41] schestowitz-TR 32bit and 64bit [11:41] schestowitz-TR but I think then too they had multiple [11:42] schestowitz-TR let me check [11:42] DaemonFC They used to send me CDs for x86-32, x86-64, and PowerPC. [11:42] schestowitz-TR I have the original shipit CDs from 4.10 [11:42] DaemonFC So I was probably one of the first to use a 64-bit OS on a desktop PC. [11:42] schestowitz-TR iirc, they have athlon builds [11:42] DaemonFC Nobody was really doing that back then because there were so many hassles, including that Adobe refused to recompile Flash. [11:43] schestowitz-TR ok, I have physically before me: [11:43] schestowitz-TR 5.04 [11:43] schestowitz-TR and 5.10 [11:43] schestowitz-TR cannot find the 4.10 [11:43] DaemonFC Mandriva wrote a "plugin wrapper" that pretended to be a 32-bit browser on one end for Flash and a 64-bit plug-in on the other for Firefox. :P [11:43] DaemonFC It actually worked okay considering. [11:43] schestowitz-TR "Version 5.05 for AMD64/EM64T" [11:43] psydruid I used Gnash in 2008 [11:43] schestowitz-TR contains live cd and install cd [11:44] DaemonFC I've cycled back and forth between distributions over the years and I have to say this is the saddest point in time. [11:44] psydruid 40% of a 2.4 GHz AMD Phenom core, but it worked [11:44] schestowitz-TR 5.04: "This PC Edition will run on Intel x86-based systems (including Intel Pentium adnd AMD Athlonm") [11:44] psydruid and 90% of a 400 PowerPC G4 core [11:45] DaemonFC Nobody really going their own way anymore. It's always Fedora or "We grabbed all this stuff from Fedora and managed to add more bugs.".. [11:45] psydruid which made me wonder why the x86 build was much less efficient with resources [11:45] DaemonFC Even Mageia is moving towards scuttling all of the system management utilities they inherited from Mandriva. [11:46] DaemonFC Which is like, "What's the point in using this if it's just a Fedora clone?". [11:46] DaemonFC urpm and the various other tooling was actually one of the bright spots of Mandriva. [11:46] bnchs https://files.catbox.moe/fgr440.png [11:46] TR Bot connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/fgr440.png ) [11:46] bnchs powershell vs bash [11:47] DaemonFC The fact that instead of some fucking broken-ass thing like GNOME Software Center (It's been zero days without an accident.) or Plasma Discover (hardly any better), you had RPMdrake. [11:47] DaemonFC And it actually worked! [11:48] DaemonFC It's sad to hear they've been conned into giving up on RPMdrake and adopting KDE and GNOME's perpetually broken shit. [11:49] TR News Gee, LXer knows just what GNU/Linux people want to hear about: WSL. Making the same mistake other sites made (until they perished). WSL/2/g is a progressive attack on GNU/Linux, which never succeeded. They're just gnawing away at their won budget. Even Canonical stopped mentioning it! [11:49] DaemonFC Package management on GNOME and KDE is in a bad place right now and has been for years. Instead of just showing you packages with a description that you can check or uncheck and hit apply, they depend on "AppStream Data". [11:50] DaemonFC Did you know if you add RPM Fusion to Fedora, none of the applications appear until you add the "appstream" packages for their two repos? [11:50] schestowitz-TR a lot of people never install additional softwarer [11:50] schestowitz-TR those who do likely add blobs [11:51] schestowitz-TR that's where appimages step in [11:51] DaemonFC On a good day, gnome software only sits there and leaks and becomes enormous. On a bad day, it also corrupts its database and doesn't remember that you uninstalled something, leaving you no way to install it again without kill -9 on its pid and then deleting its cache folder and then rebooting. [11:51] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:51] TR News LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga runs on Steam Deck and GNU/Linux with GE-Proton | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/lego-star-wars-the-skywalker-saga-runs-on-steam-deck-and-linux-with-ge-proton/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [11:51] Alternative link CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/lego-star-wars-the-skywalker-saga-runs-on-steam-deck-and-linux-with-ge-proton/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/lego-star-wars-the-skywalker-saga-runs-on-steam-deck-and-linux-with-ge-proton/ [11:51] TR Bot Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga runs on Steam Deck and Linux with GE-Proton | GamingOnLinux [11:51] DaemonFC that's where appimages step in [11:52] DaemonFC Appimagehub is an even bigger nightmare than Flathub or Snapcraft. [11:52] DaemonFC Especially when you consider that these things don't update or share their platform packages with anything else. [11:52] TR News It's bad that Liam uses Discord and encourages others to do the same https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/steam-deck-improves-offline-mode-switching-looks-like-a-lock-screen-is-coming/ [11:52] Alternative link CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/steam-deck-improves-offline-mode-switching-looks-like-a-lock-screen-is-coming/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/steam-deck-improves-offline-mode-switching-looks-like-a-lock-screen-is-coming/ [11:52] TR Bot Deck improves Offline Mode switching, looks like a lock screen is coming | GamingOnLinux [11:52] DaemonFC So they waste more space, and rot and become massive security liabilities. [11:53] schestowitz-TR for offline stuff it might be OK [11:53] DaemonFC You can install Flatpaks per user, but you shouldn't. [11:54] schestowitz-TR but getting a new appimage for every browser release seems wrong [11:54] DaemonFC It's best to install them globally. [11:54] DaemonFC They will still store per-user settings in .var/app under your home folder. [11:54] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:55] TR News French Debian-based SELKS 7 is out https://www.stamus-networks.com/open-source/#selks [11:55] Alternative link CloudFlare: stamus-networks.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.stamus-networks.com/open-source/#selks https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.stamus-networks.com/open-source/#selks [11:55] TR Bot Stamus Networks | SELKS [11:55] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: home directory [11:55] schestowitz-TR the only "folder" in gnu/linux/unix is email [11:56] TR News CloudReady 9.4.36 is out https://www.neverware.com/ [11:56] Alternative link CloudFlare: neverware.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.neverware.com/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.neverware.com/ [11:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Neverware [11:56] *bnchs (~bnchs@uvrvmdam4apgn.irc) has joined #techrights [11:57] TR News 10 Git tips we cant live without | Opensource.com

Read more [11:57] TR Bot Git tips we can't live without | Opensource.com [11:59] TR News I've used SVN and even CVS (way before Git). To say bullshit like Git is "the one to stay" is foolish. Of course something will replace Git; the question is what and when. Microsoft (read: criminals) GitHub already viciously attacks Git, turning it into proprietary crap. Maybe by intention, too (sabotaging the whole standard). [11:59] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:59] TR News "Git tips are a dime a dozen, and it's a good thing because you can never get enough of them. If you use Git every day, then every tip, trick, and shortcut you can find is potentially time and effort saved." https://opensource.com/article/22/4/git-tips ● Apr 06 [12:00] TR News "Git is pretty famous for having lots of subcommands, like clone, init, add, mv, restore, bisect, blame, show, rebase, and many more." https://opensource.com/article/22/4/customize-git-subcommands I keep some aliases and scripts to speed things up [12:00] TR Bot your own Git subcommands | Opensource.com [12:01] TR News Either Clownflare will be eradicated or the Web will be eradicated. We cannot have both. They cannot coexist. [12:02] DaemonFC Hmmm, this chest freezer sweats. [12:02] DaemonFC I remember back before Energy Star, they used to have a way to deal with this. [12:02] schestowitz-TR you know what you should do? [12:02] schestowitz-TR buy a bigger firdge [12:02] *bnchs (~bnchs@77e7v2udp3qfs.irc) has joined #techrights [12:02] schestowitz-TR put the existing one inside it [12:02] schestowitz-TR to keep it cool [12:03] schestowitz-TR no weat [12:03] schestowitz-TR no sweat, no more.. [12:03] bnchs https://files.catbox.moe/63mmco.jpg [12:03] TR Bot connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/63mmco.jpg ) [12:03] DaemonFC I'm told other people have the sweating problem with chest freezers they put in humid areas, like their basement. [12:03] bnchs stolen store phone being disabled and "tracked down" [12:03] bnchs tell me why is this in the firmware [12:04] schestowitz-TR in soviet russia, regime tracks down, disables journalism [12:05] schestowitz-TR In Soviet ICBM, Red Hat accesses 'secure boot', prevents the machine from even booting [12:05] bnchs so basically this in picture, a (unknown person) had attempted to steal an iphone from a store in Walnut Street [12:06] bnchs and i dont get why can the phone can be remotely disabled [12:06] schestowitz-TR In ICBM Dehomag (Deutschland), journalists are "foreign agents" and "terrorists" [12:06] bnchs and turned into a tracking machine [12:06] schestowitz-TR because that's what 'phones' became a decade ago [12:07] schestowitz-TR many people, most people, did not pay attention [12:07] schestowitz-TR it's MY phone, the "I" phone [12:07] schestowitz-TR now the same companies want to do the same to PCs [12:07] bnchs yeah i can imagine [12:07] bnchs stealing a PC from a store [12:08] schestowitz-TR imagine all the journ... errrmmm I mean terrorists they can catch [12:08] schestowitz-TR they can proactively undermine many acts of journalism [12:08] schestowitz-TR like people exposing crimes of bill gates, elon musk, etc. [12:08] bnchs booting it, and it says "This device has been disabled and is being tracked down. Local authorities will be alerted." [12:08] schestowitz-TR who of course control the press and centeralised 'social' platforms now [12:09] schestowitz-TR so nobody will hear you, even if you shout [12:09] bnchs since its in the firmware [12:09] bnchs you can simply disable and track down any computers [12:09] schestowitz-TR btw [12:09] bnchs includin journalists [12:09] schestowitz-TR I don't worry about the petty thief at the store... [12:09] schestowitz-TR ... as much as I worry about Apple [12:09] schestowitz-TR getting this power [12:09] schestowitz-TR sharing it [12:09] bnchs yes [12:09] schestowitz-TR wtih imperialistic regimes [12:10] schestowitz-TR and awful small time regimes [12:10] schestowitz-TR like qatar [12:10] schestowitz-TR knowingly or not knowingluy [12:10] bnchs you can trigger in any iphones [12:10] schestowitz-TR e.g. edbright? [12:10] bnchs including legally-brought ones [12:10] schestowitz-TR I forgot that the hypePhone cracking company was called [12:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [12:10] schestowitz-TR bnchs: yes [12:10] schestowitz-TR the assumption they now nakedly make is [12:10] schestowitz-TR all customers ARE pedophiles [12:11] schestowitz-TR (prove us wrong) [12:11] schestowitz-TR all customers are thieves [12:11] schestowitz-TR (we need to watch your every move and have a kill switch with remote contro) [12:12] DaemonFC The chest freezer is pretty efficient. The power company isn't projecting much of a change to my bill. [12:12] schestowitz-TR This is "Stalin's dream" [12:12] schestowitz-TR complete control over people [12:12] DaemonFC complete control over people [12:12] schestowitz-TR via digital addendum [12:12] DaemonFC Stallman doesn't get the irony. [12:12] schestowitz https://techrights.org/2020/08/14/control-but-no-accountability/ [12:12] TR Bot High-Level Criminals Associate Privacy With Crime Because They Want Privacy Only for Themselves (Control But No Accountability) | Techrights [12:12] bnchs another example [12:13] DaemonFC He says he doesn't want you to have a phone because they'll control you, but you should vote in a government that controls everything you do. [12:13] bnchs stolen samsung TVs got remotely bricked [12:13] schestowitz gates must be creaming himself, seeing the direction computting has taken [12:13] bnchs once [12:13] schestowitz and here you are, DaemonFC, bashing people who work hard to discourage blind adoption of opaque binary blobs [12:13] bnchs the fact that remote bricking and tracking is in the firmware [12:13] schestowitz that can change at any time [12:13] schestowitz and we won't know what they do and CAN do [12:14] DaemonFC No you don't, but you nevertheless run some anyway. [12:14] DaemonFC Whether they get loaded by the BIOS and have CVEs unpatched or whether they get replaced at OS boot time. [12:14] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:14] DaemonFC Take a look at the intel-microcode package in Debian. [12:14] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: some machines do not demand these [12:14] schestowitz-TR or you could use ethernet [12:14] DaemonFC Those CVEs they patch on the CPU you have? [12:15] DaemonFC Those affect you if you don't load the new microcode. [12:15] DaemonFC Oh sure the computer works, but.... [12:15] schestowitz-TR intel is a mess [12:15] schestowitz-TR that much we know [12:15] DaemonFC You just get your non-free firmware out of the BIOS and it will have more bugs. [12:15] schestowitz-TR so you could start with many simpler cpu cores in bulk [12:15] schestowitz-TR and for most tasks it'll be enough [12:15] DaemonFC CPUs have gotten too complex to try to reverse engineer some firmware that may run on them. [12:16] schestowitz-TR exactly [12:16] DaemonFC The ones that were possible to reverse are all so old now that they don't really run anything anymore. [12:16] DaemonFC And the hardware is breaking down of old age. [12:16] schestowitz-TR but wait [12:16] schestowitz-TR some governments make their own sdesigned [12:16] schestowitz-TR they have h"human" "resources" [12:16] schestowitz-TR they can adoppt risc-v [12:16] schestowitz-TR then mutiply that [12:17] DaemonFC Yeah. Loongson ironically uses free firmware, but you don't know that it's not backdoored. [12:17] schestowitz-TR and study the design properly, even fork it [12:17] DaemonFC They can run the backdoors in some other part of the CPU that the firmware doesn't affect. [12:17] DaemonFC So Stallman was using one of these, you know. [12:17] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: you could argue that chinese back doors are better than american ones for a US citizen [12:17] schestowitz-TR because the chinese gov. won;t' raid you in arizona [12:17] schestowitz-TR the US regime would [12:17] DaemonFC Why? Because China will have a harder time kidnapping me here than my government? [12:17] DaemonFC Yes, that is true. [12:18] schestowitz-TR not a novel point [12:18] schestowitz-TR (btw) [12:18] schestowitz-TR many people recognise that spying on them, e.g. as journalist, is less dangerous if done by some distant country [12:19] schestowitz-TR last month USDOJ indicted some russians [12:19] DaemonFC Well, you know, even using Ubuntu or Fedora is a lot better than leaving things how you got your PC. [12:19] schestowitz-TR for cybercrimes [12:19] schestowitz-TR now what? [12:19] schestowitz-TR you tell me... [12:19] DaemonFC We know for a fact Windows has a million things that spy on you and it was also poorly designed. [12:20] DaemonFC And nobody can look at anything it really does. It sends Microsoft, what are basically encrypted ZIP packages about you every day. [12:20] DaemonFC Containing several MB of data each. Nobody knows what's inside. [12:20] DaemonFC You can kind of guess based on the EULA, but they can violate that because it's encrypted and you'll never prove it. [12:20] TR News AMD has outsourced far too much code to Microsoft (criminals) GitHub, which is proprietary software. When "AMD" says "Open" (r combines these words, or "OpenGPU") read as "Microsoft junk"... [12:21] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: if there is a revolution [12:21] schestowitz-TR set aside just a revolt [12:21] schestowitz-TR they will know what to do with the data [12:21] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, You are right though about Fedora loading unnecessary firmware. [12:21] schestowitz-TR and they can pass PATRIOT ACT 2.x within days [12:21] DaemonFC Debian doesn't even package this firmware for iwlwifi called "yoyo" that's there for "debugging" purposes. [12:22] DaemonFC So the kernel complains but then it just carries on. [12:22] DaemonFC Fedora actually feeds it firmware it doesn't actually need in order to run. [12:22] TR News wp-surface-scale-v1: New protocol for fractional scaling (!143) Merge requests wayland / wayland-protocols GitLab https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/143 Source: gitlab | wayland | linux | graphics [12:22] TR Bot wp-surface-scale-v1: New protocol for fractional scaling (!143) Merge requests wayland / wayland-protocols GitLab [12:22] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: that's the issue [12:22] schestowitz-TR too much lenience [12:22] schestowitz-TR hardware companies: [12:22] schestowitz-TR if users are so eager to use whatever we throw at them, WHY CHANGE? [12:23] DaemonFC Right, if it's in the kernel's firmware tree, Fedora has it. [12:23] DaemonFC Including "yoyo". [12:23] DaemonFC So no attempt to strip it down to "Yeah, this sucks, but at least we're not loading things we don't even need.". [12:24] DaemonFC I just found it amusing that most distributions except Debian apparently don't bother to figure out that this entire firmware set gets loaded onto the WiFi chipset and doesn't even benefit the user or enable more features. [12:24] DaemonFC And we don't know what it does. [12:24] DaemonFC So they just load it and keep going. [12:25] TR News 7 Uses of grep Commands in GNU [Linux] https://medium.com/techtofreedom/7-uses-of-grep-commands-in-linux-cde98eb30eba [12:25] Alternative link CloudFlare: medium.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medium.com/techtofreedom/7-uses-of-grep-commands-in-linux-cde98eb30eba https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medium.com/techtofreedom/7-uses-of-grep-commands-in-linux-cde98eb30eba [12:25] TR Bot Uses of grep Commands in Linux. A super tool for string searching | by Yang Zhou | TechToFreedom | Apr, 2022 | Medium [12:26] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, It's worse with Ubuntu. [12:26] DaemonFC They build staging tree crap that pokes at UEFI bugs and kills PCs even though their users are almost certainly not using that driver. [12:26] TR News This spring there will be 2,000 active Gemini capsules gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi [12:26] DaemonFC The intel-spi incident. [12:27] TR News "A few years ago I found a record player on the street. I took it home and, after a while of it getting in the way, it ended up in storage under the sofa, forgotten. A bit over three years ago I finally decided to get it out and make it work." gemini://calcuode.com/gemlog/2020-12-30_record-player.gmi [12:27] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: they're 'doping' with blobs [12:27] schestowitz-TR but that can contribute to more complexity [12:27] schestowitz-TR even if they get more users [12:27] schestowitz-TR all sorts of unknown system crashes [12:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [12:30] DaemonFC Distributions should be more careful about making sure everything they include has a purpose otherwise you just end up with a lot of unexploded bombs waiting to go off. [12:30] TR News ICBM thinks people "update your LinkedIn profile" (still boosting Microsoft; ICBM does this routinely) https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/3-tips-transition-new-role [12:30] TR Bot New job remorse: 3 tips for handling struggles with a new position | The Enterprisers Project [12:30] DaemonFC They're doing a lousy job of that even if they don't care what the license is. [12:31] TR News LinkedIn is oppression http://techrights.org/2020/06/28/linkedin-censorship/ [12:31] TR Bot When It Comes to Killing Businesses Microsoft Defends Its Crown | Techrights [12:31] TR News ICBM: you need to suck up to the suits instead of doing your job properly https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/it-collaboration-ceo [12:31] TR Bot 4 IT leadership tips for collaborating with the CEO | The Enterprisers Project [12:32] schestowitz-TR "unexploded bombs waiting to go off." [12:32] schestowitz-TR They're not unexploded bombs anymore [12:32] schestowitz-TR the term itself is weird [12:32] DaemonFC Well, intel-spi didn't break anything until it did. [12:32] schestowitz-TR every bomb the US makes or has [12:32] schestowitz-TR is "unexploded bomb" [12:32] schestowitz-TR because that's what bombs do [12:33] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [12:33] DaemonFC There are still bombs the germans dropped all over Europe that can still go off today. [12:33] schestowitz-TR yes, I know [12:33] DaemonFC They find one now and then and have to clear out the building. [12:33] schestowitz-TR one was blown up ina controlled setting recently [12:33] schestowitz-TR near here [12:34] schestowitz-TR you make it sound like a german proiblem [12:34] schestowitz-TR as if only "german engineering" left "unexploded bombs" [12:34] DaemonFC No, it's every war. [12:34] schestowitz-TR the west left tons of "unexploded bombs" for kids [12:34] schestowitz-TR "land mines" [12:34] DaemonFC Ukraine will have it bad. [12:34] schestowitz-TR and those are very hard to detect and remove [12:34] schestowitz-TR they also kill many animals [12:34] DaemonFC Half the shit the Russians drop doesn't go off right away. [12:35] schestowitz-TR how do you know? [12:35] DaemonFC What the Ukrainian government is reporting. [12:36] DaemonFC They're working around the clock digging out bombs the Russians sent that didn't explode. [12:36] TR News Ex-Snap Advocate at Ubuntu Creates a Tool to Help You Migrate from Snap to Flatpak http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163392#comment-33287 [12:36] TR Bot A new tool 'unsnap' helps you move from Snaps to Flatpaks | Tux Machines [12:37] DaemonFC Sounds like a revenge thing. [12:38] schestowitz-TR like chernobyl [12:38] schestowitz-TR you deter people who wish to live there [12:38] DaemonFC Alan Pope was the one that got into it with me on Reddit when I called Snap and insecure engineering disaster and pointed at how they had definitely allowed in bitcoin miner trojans and god knows what else, and also pointed out that since they allow proprietary software, they couldn't audit some of them if they wanted to. [12:38] schestowitz-TR near the capital [12:38] schestowitz-TR too dangerous [12:39] schestowitz-TR btw, clusters bombs have been reported [12:39] schestowitz-TR the ordinance is smaller [12:39] schestowitz-TR but lots of it [12:39] schestowitz-TR rescuers get killed too [12:39] schestowitz-TR humans are very inventive [12:39] schestowitz-TR they find new ways to kill more people with some amount of chemicals [12:39] bnchs DaemonFC: there should be seperation of proprietary software away from free software in snap [12:39] schestowitz-TR like "bullet sharing" [12:39] bnchs like debian [12:40] schestowitz-TR shoot a person in the mouth, then it hits another person at the back of the head [12:40] schestowitz-TR humans in a nutshell [12:42] TR News Launch Your First Jenkins Server in a Single Command | by Vladimir Mukhin | Apr, 2022 | Medium https://vladimir-mukhin.medium.com/launch-your-first-jenkins-server-in-a-single-command-37f9e4d3407 Source: vladimir mukhin [12:42] Alternative link CloudFlare: medium.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://vladimir-mukhin.medium.com/launch-your-first-jenkins-server-in-a-single-command-37f9e4d3407 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://vladimir-mukhin.medium.com/launch-your-first-jenkins-server-in-a-single-command-37f9e4d3407 [12:42] TR Bot Launch Your First Jenkins Server in a Single Command | by Vladimir Mukhin | Apr, 2022 | Medium [12:42] DaemonFC Canonical has it rigged to not even show you that it's proprietary. [12:42] schestowitz-TR yeah [12:42] DaemonFC At least Flathub doesn't do that. [12:42] schestowitz-TR Canonical started out OK [12:42] schestowitz-TR after Mark Shuttlecock took the cock to Sputnik [12:42] schestowitz-TR to prove his "manhood" [12:42] bnchs DaemonFC: thats too far [12:43] schestowitz-TR like bezos did [12:43] schestowitz-TR before he went al bold and bearded [12:43] schestowitz-TR but back then he was true to "Ubuntu", sort of... [12:43] schestowitz-TR [19:55] The company whose founder flew with Russia to space took 1.5 months to post this https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-standing-with-ukraine [12:43] Alternative link CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-standing-with-ukraine https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-standing-with-ukraine [12:43] TR Bot with Ukraine | Ubuntu [12:44] DaemonFC Shuttleworth actually did make it into orbit though. [12:44] SomeH4x0r why post this? [12:44] DaemonFC Bezos hasn't. [12:44] schestowitz-TR */bold/bald/ [12:44] schestowitz-TR SomeH4x0r: exactly [12:44] schestowitz-TR and why so late [12:44] schestowitz-TR they had no obligation to say anything [12:45] DaemonFC Plus, Shuttleworth ran scientific experiments, Bezos didn't. [12:45] DaemonFC And Shuttleworth's money at least funded part of the Russian modules at the ISS and thus benefited the project. [12:45] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163415 [12:45] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [12:45] DaemonFC Bezos just wants to launch rich assholes into space. [12:46] schestowitz-TR same as dick branson [12:46] schestowitz-TR dick branson had this stupid plane thing [12:46] schestowitz-TR where going to "space" means just some high altitude [12:46] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Wait until there's an accident and they lose an entire crew of billionaires. [12:46] schestowitz-TR and you pay a fortune and pollute the planet [12:46] DaemonFC See how many want seats on the next one. [12:47] schestowitz-TR like concorde [12:47] schestowitz-TR it failed [12:47] schestowitz-TR the rich people who wanted to shave off a few hours of travel did not feel it was worth the risk [12:47] schestowitz-TR it was always unsafe [12:47] schestowitz-TR it's a military plane design [12:48] schestowitz-TR military planes fall a lot [12:48] schestowitz-TR they don't really care [12:48] DaemonFC Yeah, it was recycled from the X70, wasn't it? [12:48] schestowitz-TR and they even assume failure [12:48] schestowitz-TR so they equip ALL the passengers with gear like parachutes [12:48] schestowitz-TR "passengers" [12:48] DaemonFC I know some people who used to work for defense contractors, Bell Labs, etc. [12:48] schestowitz-TR for jets just a pilot usually [12:48] schestowitz-TR fore bombers it's troops [12:48] DaemonFC Back when Bell Labs actually did do some really cool stuff. [12:49] DaemonFC You know, you could argue that the government breakup of AT&T is a lesson against antitrust law being used that way. [12:49] DaemonFC It cleared UNIX out of Microsoft's way and look where that ended up, and the baby bells started buying each other out and we're back to three phone companies again. [12:49] TR News Visual-inertial tracking for Monado https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2022/04/05/visual-inertial-tracking-support-for-monado-openxr/ Source: collabora [12:49] TR Bot Visual-inertial tracking for Monado [12:50] bnchs it should have been microsoft next [12:51] DaemonFC The government stopping AT&T from direct selling a UNIX OS and then NOT aggressively pursuing Microsoft was probably one of the greatest disasters in the history of computing. [12:51] TR News Lilbits: Another AMD handheld gaming PC, Volla Phone 22 (with Android or Ubuntu) https://liliputing.com/2022/04/lilbits-another-amd-handheld-gaming-pc-volla-phone-22-with-android-or-ubuntu-and-asus-tinker-edge-r-single-board-computer.html Source: liliputing [12:51] Alternative link CloudFlare: liliputing.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://liliputing.com/2022/04/lilbits-another-amd-handheld-gaming-pc-volla-phone-22-with-android-or-ubuntu-and-asus-tinker-edge-r-single-board-computer.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://liliputing.com/2022/04/lilbits-another-amd-handheld-gaming-pc-volla-phone-22-with-android-or-ubuntu-and-asus-tinker-edge-r-single-board-computer.html [12:51] TR Bot Another AMD handheld gaming PC, Volla Phone 22 (with Android or Ubuntu), and Asus Tinker Edge R single-board computer - Liliputing [12:53] DaemonFC The BSD stuff was just the product of a different time. Today, a university would try to figure out a way to monetize it and it would end with nobody wanting to use a copy and then everyone forgetting about it. [12:53] TR News ...it's bad enough that Twitter (pure shit) denies you access unless you run some dodgy proprietary code; now it does the same to links, like t.co (in effect making those sites unreachable unless you run dodgy proprietary code from Twitter, not from those sites) [12:54] TR News Twitter is starting to resemble malware more and more each month. Even if you do not use their (cr)app. [12:54] DaemonFC Linux and BSDs have been so successful because they're valuable to big corporations who see that in exchange for investing some nominal amount of money they can make billions or trillions of dollars. [12:55] DaemonFC If you go and license something from Microsoft, all you get is having to buy more licenses later. [12:55] DaemonFC (And ransomware.) [12:56] TR News Years ago: Dangerous psychopath and serial thief Elon Musk uses Twitter to call innocent people "pedo guy" to 'settle scores' (Musk was sued for defamation!). Now: Musk is taking over Twitter. He wants his very own defamation machine. How much will we let oligarchs get away with? Gates and Bezos also buy the media. Zuckerberg wants us to think Facebook IS the media. [12:57] TR News The EFF's site has a tracker in all pages. It has its own subdomain. Sheesh!!! [12:57] TR News "RoenDi is a rotary encoder with an integrated round color display. Based on an STM32L4 MCU, it can be programmed with the STM32CubeIDE or the Arduino IDE, and be used as an information display, an IoT controller, a locking mechanism, as well as in audio applications." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/06/roendi-rotary-encoder-color-display/ [12:57] Alternative link CloudFlare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/06/roendi-rotary-encoder-color-display/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/06/roendi-rotary-encoder-color-display/ [12:57] TR Bot RoenDi is a rotary encoder with a color display (Crowdfunding) - CNX Software [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.75 k/sec., IPFS upstream 96.63 average k/sec., average swarm size 303.66 ● Apr 06 [13:00] TR News Gilmore, Barlow et al: let's make an advocacy group for digital issues. Cohn: let's oust Gilmore now that Barlow is dead and turn EFF into a political advocacy group, behaving like a company/business with lobbying as "services" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gilmore_(activist) [13:00] TR Bot John Gilmore (activist) - Wikipedia [13:01] TR News The Month in WordPress - March 2022 - WordPress News https://wordpress.org/news/2022/04/the-month-in-wordpress-march-2022/ Source: wordpress [13:01] TR Bot The Month in WordPress March 2022 WordPress News [13:02] TR News Thoughts dereferenced from the scratchpad noise. | ASUS KGPE-D16 Dasharo testing update https://blog.3mdeb.com/2022/2022-03-23-kgpe-d16-testing-update/ "Unlike software testing, firmware testing does not only verify whether the code behaves as it is supposed to" [13:02] TR Bot Thoughts dereferenced from the scratchpad noise. | ASUS KGPE-D16 Dasharo testing update [13:03] TR News Sigh; medevel posting webspam or seo spam. Come on, stop turning otherwise-good site into pure trash. This is KILLING the WWW. https://medevel.com/4-tips-to-boost-emr-efficiency/ [13:03] Alternative link CloudFlare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/4-tips-to-boost-emr-efficiency/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/4-tips-to-boost-emr-efficiency/ [13:03] TR Bot 4 Tips To Boost EMR Efficiency [13:04] bnchs https://medevel.com/4-tips-to-boost-emr-efficiency/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [13:04] Alternative link CloudFlare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/4-tips-to-boost-emr-efficiency/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/4-tips-to-boost-emr-efficiency/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [13:04] TR Bot ( status 404 @ https://medevel.com/4-tips-to-boost-emr-efficiency/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/ ) [13:04] TR News I reckon the proportion of the WWW which is Webspam in disguise is already above 80% [13:04] bnchs jus testing [13:05] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [13:05] schestowitz-TR what's the conclusion? [13:05] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@vd4283mvfyqgk.irc) has joined #techrights [13:07] TR News "The Postgres.ai team is happy to announce the release of version 3.1 of Database Lab Engine (DLE), the most advanced open-source software ever released that empowers development, testing, and troubleshooting environments for fast-growing projects." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/database-lab-engine-31-pgbackrest-timezones-for-cli-dle-community-2432/ [13:07] TR Bot PostgreSQL: Database Lab Engine 3.1: pgBackRest, timezones for CLI, DLE community [13:08] TR News Burn plane fuel and pretend COVID doesn't exist anymore? https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgconf-nyc-2022-sep-22-23-call-for-papers-now-open-2431/ [13:08] TR Bot PostgreSQL: PGConf NYC 2022 (Sep 22 - 23) - Call for Papers Now Open! [13:08] TR News Games: LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga, Steam Deck Offline Mode, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163416 [13:08] TR Bot Games: LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga, Steam Deck 'Offline Mode', and More | Tux Machines [13:10] schestowitz-TR "If you're a friend and you've tried emailing twice, it's probably one of our mail handling systems. I suggest phoning me. It seems that in the last few years, large numbers of ISPs have started using "blacklists", even the ones that never did before." http://www.toad.com/gnu/#email [13:10] TR Bot John Gilmore's home page [13:10] schestowitz-TR "The blacklisters hate me, so they put me on their lists, even though I have never sent a single spam message. They don't like the way I administer my machine. (I don't like the way they administer their machines either.) It will often be hard to get your ISP to admit that they are censoring your incoming email" [13:10] schestowitz-TR "Don't just let them put in an exception for mail from me. Get them to take off the blacklist on your incoming mail. It is usually hard -- but worth it. Who else's emails are you missing? Some of us figured out in the 1950s that blacklists were a bad idea." [13:11] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:12] TR News Automating my home network with Salt - Federico's Blog https://viruta.org/automating-home-network-with-salt.html "My colleague Richard Brown has been talking about the Salt Project for a few years. It is similar to tools for provisioning and configuration management like Ansible or Puppet." [13:12] TR Bot Automating my home network with Salt - Federico's Blog [13:14] TR News For a change, Linux Foundation does something related to Linux https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/cip-expands-work-on-slts-kernel-maintenance-301518053.html [13:14] Alternative link CloudFlare: prnewswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/cip-expands-work-on-slts-kernel-maintenance-301518053.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/cip-expands-work-on-slts-kernel-maintenance-301518053.html [13:14] TR Bot CIP Expands Work on SLTS Kernel Maintenance [13:16] *bnchs (~bnchs@rifixwsbueaeu.irc) has joined #techrights [13:16] bnchs using a website apparently written in ASP.net [13:16] bnchs it fucking crashes [13:18] *schestowitz-TR looks at page source [13:18] schestowitz-TR lots of js and spyware [13:18] schestowitz-TR [13:18] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySWEB2xqZ-o [13:18] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ySWEB2xqZ-o [13:18] TR Bot yewtu.be | Fedora 35 Kinoite | A New Immutable Distribution Featuring KDE - Invidious [13:18] schestowitz-TR it's still a security issue [13:18] schestowitz-TR when sites advertise not just the cms but also the version [13:19] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: but does it have a MASTER branch I can checkout from [13:19] schestowitz-TR from Microsoft? [13:20] DaemonFC It has trees. :) [13:20] TR News ICBM looking for slaves... I mean, testers https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/contribute-at-the-fedora-36-coreos-test-week/ [13:20] TR Bot Contribute at the Fedora 36 CoreOS Test Week Fedora Community Blog [13:20] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:22] bnchs have you ever used a ASP website [13:22] bnchs that never responds to your request [13:23] bnchs or just responds with a ASP error page [13:23] bnchs because im having that [13:23] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@7zmmwv4qqhr7u.irc) has joined #techrights [13:23] TR News Latest Changes in EasyOS 3.4.4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163326#comment-33288 [13:23] TR Bot Latest in EasyOS | Tux Machines [13:23] schestowitz-TR bnchs: which site? [13:23] DaemonFC I'm looking at Fedora 36 Kinoite on my older laptop. [13:23] bnchs a string length site [13:24] DaemonFC I also grabbed a nightly ISO of Fedora Silverblue. [13:24] bnchs dont have a terminal right now [13:24] schestowitz-TR is blue an OK colour? [13:24] *matey (~matey@thn62aj5tmfdn.irc) has joined #techrights [13:24] DaemonFC I just wanted to figure out if it really is frustrating to use an "immutable" OS or not. [13:24] schestowitz-TR "bitch please! It's deny mode, not dark mode!!" [13:24] matey if it really is frustrating to use an "immutable" OS or not <- endless os is like this too [13:24] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: sounds like chromeOS [13:25] DaemonFC KDE shouldn't have problems on my 2016 laptop anymore as it defaults to Wayland now. [13:25] schestowitz-TR what's the practical use case? [13:25] schestowitz-TR kiosk? [13:25] DaemonFC So it should handle HiDPI scaling. [13:25] matey really if flatpaks are a master feature, this is going to be how it works on some level [13:25] DaemonFC what's the practical use case? [13:25] matey kiosk? <- diot-friendly "linux" [13:25] matey you cant fuck it up because its all "apps" [13:26] schestowitz-TR only idiots don't change systems? [13:26] matey even if you want to [13:26] schestowitz-TR or rather, it's idiotic to do that? [13:26] matey this is not an endorsement, i think its a completely fucked up way of doing things [13:26] schestowitz-TR immutable is also misleading [13:26] matey if id seen this as the intended use of flatpak i would have railed against it sooner. [13:26] schestowitz-TR the states change [13:26] schestowitz-TR maybe at "the clown" [13:26] matey instead, i tried endless os and condemned it for this very thing a year or two ago [13:26] schestowitz-TR but you work with data set that is not immutable [13:26] schestowitz-TR the binaries rarely change either way [13:27] matey i mean you can change things in endless os, but modifying any installed program is a complete bitch [13:27] matey i wonder if easy os is this obnoxious [13:27] matey and dont get me wrong, the idea of read only images as "packages" is far from new [13:28] schestowitz-TR it's like a game where you only ever respawn [13:28] DaemonFC You can use package layering with rpm-ostree if you want. [13:28] schestowitz-TR but never progress in the game [13:28] matey its just they used to be done in a way that wasnt designed as a complete fuck-you to users [13:28] DaemonFC But really you're meant to use Flatpaks. [13:28] matey (and you could always unpack them and use them in a "mutable" way if you wanted [13:29] DaemonFC rpm-ostree would be useful in a case where nobody has made a Flatpak or that sort of application wouldn't work as a Flatpak. [13:29] matey if the entire file system is setup along these lines, its more of a conspiracy [13:29] matey of course people are going to take that literally, i mean it more lightly (but not tongue in cheek) [13:30] matey actually, theres a wiki entry about this very thing. [13:30] schestowitz-TR with flying saucers and stuff [13:30] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:30] matey http://techrights.org/wiki/Librethreat_Database#Appliance-like_Distributions [13:30] TR Bot Librethreat Database - Techrights [13:30] matey this is exactly what daemonfc is talking about [13:30] schestowitz-TR crAppliance [13:31] DaemonFC Deploying the image is taking a long time. [13:31] DaemonFC Then again, it's installing from kind of a crummy USB 2 thumbdrive. [13:31] matey "Some distros seem to be designed with building more restrictions into the user experience as a priority-- making GNU/Linux better simulate or act as a non-free platform." "Examples: Chrome OS, Endless OS, Android, Elementary OS" [13:32] matey the goal of flatpak seems to be to drag the gnu/linux distro towards something more like android. [13:32] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@uyycfdpcfwkrc.irc) has joined #techrights [13:32] matey android meanwhile, is a pile of shit that fucks over users [13:32] matey but im sure the goals overlap more than not-- android is supposd to be idiot-proof [13:32] DaemonFC Ah there we go. [13:32] matey you cant DO ANYTHING to it, so you cant break it, so it wont break [13:33] DaemonFC Unpacking objects. [13:33] matey which of course, is bullshit. but thats the idea. [13:33] DaemonFC Deploying OSTree. [13:33] DaemonFC Installing Flatpak applications. [13:33] DaemonFC Reticulating splines.... [13:33] matey computer: break distro [13:33] matey computer says no. [13:33] bnchs baby proof gnu/linux [13:34] matey its technically free software [13:34] DaemonFC I'm not sure that Silverblue will ever replace Fedora Workstation. [13:34] matey but it simulates proprietary software [13:34] bnchs computer: break distro [13:34] DaemonFC I mean it hasn't so far and it's been around for years now. [13:34] bnchs computer: uh uh you didnt say the magic word [13:35] matey and the more free software does this-- the more it simulates proprietary software [13:35] matey the farther users get from controlling their computing, but since you have the source and the license the fsf cant say shit [13:35] matey now, the fsf HAS come out against these packages [13:36] DaemonFC Configuration file kwinrc not writable. Contact your system administrator. [13:36] matey but only because they said the main goal seems to be offering proprietary "Apps" like skype [13:36] bnchs contact your sysadmin [13:36] bnchs I AM THE ADMIN [13:36] matey the thing is, even if you made a trisquel-like version of this [13:36] DaemonFC But then it went to the log in screen and then to the desktop. [13:36] DaemonFC Everything is scaled properly. Ohhhhh. Nice. [13:36] matey you still dont have control of it unless you want to go through MORE and MORE and every more fucking shit [13:37] DaemonFC Let's see what's going on here. [13:37] matey every time dfc fixes something it takes a day and a half and they break 2 or 3 more things [13:37] matey it doesnt take a computer scientist to see where this is going [13:37] bnchs matey: like popos baby proofing their package manager [13:37] matey although there are computer scientists who see where this is going [13:37] bnchs pop!os* [13:38] bnchs after linus the retard broke his distro [13:38] matey read that as "po-pos" [13:38] matey "watch out the po-pos are busting the os" [13:38] psydruid total annihilation or violent pacification? pick your poison! [13:39] bnchs linus should go back to windows [13:39] matey binkyOS [13:39] bnchs after all [13:39] matey anyway, distros pushing flatcrap should be nuked from orbit [13:40] bnchs flatpak is bloated crap [13:40] matey but since its all marketing now anyway, people love this stupid shit [13:40] matey unless they know better [13:40] bnchs i dont want my home directory to be anymore dirty [13:41] matey and snap is still worse, because it gives ubuntu a monopoly [13:41] matey so fuck both of those [13:41] TR News GNU/Linux is already killing Windows in games... in some sense https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/gpd-are-getting-quite-desperate-against-the-steam-deck/ [13:41] Alternative link CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/gpd-are-getting-quite-desperate-against-the-steam-deck/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/gpd-are-getting-quite-desperate-against-the-steam-deck/ [13:41] TR Bot are getting quite desperate against the Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux [13:41] matey this is literally how macs have distributed software for 10 years [13:41] matey even that was saner though [13:42] matey 10 years (im sure its longer) [13:43] TR News "it's now fully Verified with the Native GNU/Linux build" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/space-haven-adds-gamepad-support-gets-steam-deck-verified/ [13:43] Alternative link CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/space-haven-adds-gamepad-support-gets-steam-deck-verified/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/space-haven-adds-gamepad-support-gets-steam-deck-verified/ [13:43] TR Bot Haven adds gamepad support, gets Steam Deck Verified | GamingOnLinux [13:45] DaemonFC Okay, I told it to install wine using rpm-ostree. [13:45] DaemonFC And it's downloading an entirely new ostree. [13:45] bnchs hahah [13:46] DaemonFC On the upside, KDE seems to actually work on this laptop 6 years later. [13:46] matey im sure what actualled happened though [13:46] matey is everyone liked docker so much, they were like [13:46] matey "we should replace package management with docker!" [13:47] DaemonFC That does seem to be what's going on here. [13:47] matey "cool! one operating system for every application!" [13:47] schestowitz-TR docker is a bubble [13:47] DaemonFC Oh, you want to install one package? First you have to update the ENTIRE operating system! [13:47] schestowitz-TR the company docker still loses money [13:47] DaemonFC BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAA [13:47] schestowitz-TR and borrows [13:47] schestowitz-TR then claims to be worth billions [13:47] schestowitz-TR for BORROWING [13:47] matey the company docker still loses money <- you say this about every single problem free software faces [13:47] DaemonFC It should be able to just apply the changes to the ostree, like a git checkout, right? [13:48] schestowitz-TR "mom, dad, can I borrow some money? Woohoo! Now I'm worth 10 times the amount I borrowed...' [13:48] matey github, systemd, docker, etc [13:48] matey mozilla [13:48] schestowitz-TR no!zilla [13:48] matey every nasty shithole development tam is going out of business [13:48] matey real soon now [13:48] matey team ^ [13:48] schestowitz-TR no pentagon bailouts [13:49] schestowitz-TR play ball, get money from taxpayers [13:49] schestowitz-TR perpetual bailout [13:49] schestowitz-TR until the system runs out [13:49] matey meanwhile, gnu and linux are in the toilet [13:49] schestowitz-TR like the USSR [13:49] matey but we will fish them out when every company goes under [13:49] matey as if there will be anything left to salvage [13:49] schestowitz-TR they've been besieged for ages [13:50] TR News Games: Steam Deck and Humble Choice Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163417 [13:50] matey like the USSR <- the "ussr" seems to still be causing major problems for the world nearly 100 years later [13:50] TR Bot Games: Steam Deck and Humble Choice | Tux Machines [13:50] schestowitz-TR examples: [13:50] matey of course its not really the ussr anymore [13:50] matey it collapsed decades ago [13:50] schestowitz-TR Novell: let's become buddies with MSFT for competitve advantage [13:50] matey still somehow manages to invade ukraine, with almost no support from the world. [13:51] schestowitz-TR Ubuntu: let's become Mir/unity/Snap (later mates with MSFT, too) for competitive advantage [13:51] schestowitz-TR ICBM/RatCrap: let's make systemd and get loads of software patents for competitive advantage [13:51] schestowitz-TR so they basically don't cooperate enough [13:51] schestowitz-TR and it slows down progress [13:51] matey theyre loose alliances, always [13:52] schestowitz-TR like LF [13:52] schestowitz-TR not even Linux [13:52] matey but this is the thing [13:52] schestowitz-TR Vmware, microsoft, facebook [13:52] matey theyre constantly working to replace gnu/linux with Some Other Shit [13:52] schestowitz-TR 0xDEADMETA [13:53] schestowitz-TR (not hex)\ [13:53] matey google: android ubuntu: snap ibm: systemd-flatcrapd [13:53] matey Anything But Free Software! [13:53] schestowitz-TR free pays less [13:53] schestowitz-TR or does not pat [13:53] schestowitz-TR because the user is in control [13:53] matey non-free free software (nffs) [13:53] schestowitz-TR and isn't compelled to pay [13:53] matey or at least less-free free software (lffs) [13:53] schestowitz-TR immuntable FS [13:53] matey freedom-free software (ffs) [13:54] schestowitz-TR the freedom to NOT modify [13:54] matey freedom 3 is always getting shit on [13:54] schestowitz-TR Valve now FUDs people who unlock the FS [13:54] matey bicycle: "you can modify and redistribute me!" [13:54] schestowitz-TR insinuating that having a file system you can write to is dangerous [13:54] DaemonFC Wine does work. [13:54] schestowitz-TR like Rotten Apple with "sideloading" [13:54] DaemonFC I just installed foobar2000 on KDE. It looks oddly right at home. [13:55] matey red hat bicycle: "you can modify and redistribute me too! though you might have more trouble, as im mostly designed to pour sidewalks!" [13:55] schestowitz malware + clown = https://www.ghacks.net/2022/04/06/microsoft-improves-its-cloud-pc-offering-windows-365/ [13:55] Alternative link CloudFlare: ghacks.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ghacks.net/2022/04/06/microsoft-improves-its-cloud-pc-offering-windows-365/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.ghacks.net/2022/04/06/microsoft-improves-its-cloud-pc-offering-windows-365/ [13:55] TR Bot Microsoft improves its cloud PC offering Windows 365 - gHacks Tech News [13:55] matey insinuating that having a file system you can write to is dangerous <_ UEFI/SB for packages! [13:56] schestowitz who would NEED this? [13:56] schestowitz we have WINE [13:56] matey SecurePack! [13:56] psydruid "Valve is our best friend forever" [13:56] schestowitz-TR [13:55] insinuating that having a file system you can write to is dangerous <_ UEFI/SB for packages! [13:56] schestowitz-TR this exists already [13:56] schestowitz-TR Gulag- and ICBM-led [13:56] matey you need secureboot so you know that ostree is secure when it loads your securepack packages [13:56] schestowitz-TR sigstore [13:56] schestowitz-TR by Zemlin Foundation [13:56] DaemonFC I installed Flathub since Fedora's Flatpak repo is very sparse. [13:56] matey this exists already <- everything is new! everything is betterer! [13:57] schestowitz-TR The Sheela and James Zemlin Foundry [13:57] matey floundry [13:57] schestowitz-TR you can say THAT again [13:57] schestowitz-TR usually the "legit" apps are MORE dangerous than derivs [13:57] schestowitz-TR like "official" skype [13:58] schestowitz-TR but they want you to think "wrong" Windows is bad [13:58] schestowitz-TR consider what "authorised" Windows does [13:58] matey secureboot: make sure you use windows (but not in theory, only in practice) [13:58] schestowitz-TR and then tell me to my face "SECURE boot" [13:58] schestowitz-TR it's malware [13:58] DaemonFC I'm actually considering rolling this out to my main laptop. [13:58] schestowitz-TR what's secure about that? [13:58] schestowitz-TR Who is it secure TO? [13:58] matey ostree: make sure you only have shitty packages (but only in practice) [13:58] DaemonFC I don't know, maybe I've gone crazy. [13:58] matey I don't know, maybe I've gone crazy. <- i think youre a masochist [13:58] schestowitz-TR trey kde neon [13:58] schestowitz-TR I use that [13:59] schestowitz-TR it's well packages kde with many little changes and additions [13:59] schestowitz-TR kde neon had a release days ago ● Apr 06 [14:00] schestowitz-TR being masochist is OK [14:00] schestowitz-TR with I & D we have QUOTAS for "masochist" [14:00] matey yeah its basically a right [14:00] schestowitz-TR for hire: masochists [14:00] matey but its no way to design a distro (imo) [14:00] schestowitz-TR we need 1% masochists, according to new D &I policy [14:01] matey ive had friends into bdsm, it just sucks that every distro is made for them and not anyone else [14:01] matey IBdsM [14:01] schestowitz https://www.maketecheasier.com/elon-musk-twitter-edit-button/ [14:01] TR Bot Do We Have Elon Musk to Thank for a Twitter Edit Button? - Make Tech Easier [14:01] schestowitz Worship BS [14:01] schestowitz matey: fetishn for nukes [14:01] schestowitz ICBDSM [14:01] matey there you go [14:02] schestowitz jerk that rocket [14:02] schestowitz (me looks at bezos) [14:03] schestowitz-TR did you know larrison and paul allen (microsloth) competed for largest... yacht? [14:03] schestowitz-TR to the point of custom-making them (IIRC) so that "the tip" goes further? [14:03] schestowitz-TR this is how sick these people are [14:03] matey "weve designed a new heat-resistant shield for bleworigin to protect it on reentry" *rolls large polymer sheath over rocket* [14:03] schestowitz-TR and meanwhile many are homeless in the same cities [14:03] schestowitz-TR and many homes intentioanllu vacent [14:04] matey "always practice safe reeentry!" [14:04] schestowitz-TR vacant to keep the price up [14:04] schestowitz-TR did you know how watson died? [14:04] schestowitz-TR the son [14:04] schestowitz-TR fell off the stairs at home [14:04] schestowitz-TR or some staircase [14:04] schestowitz-TR or floor [14:04] schestowitz-TR didn't survive it at hospital [14:05] schestowitz-TR maybe he was driunk [14:05] matey how large was the staircase? [14:05] schestowitz-TR arthor [14:05] schestowitz-TR had drinking issues [14:05] schestowitz-TR matey: I'd need to read up on it again [14:05] schestowitz-TR the family would likely save face by not giving the full story [14:05] matey sure but sometimes details slip out [14:05] matey from 3rd parties [14:06] matey i mean we know an awful lot about jeff epstein [14:06] schestowitz-TR the other son was a stupid man [14:06] schestowitz-TR and womaniser [14:06] schestowitz-TR didn't succeed in anything, his dad had to step in [14:06] schestowitz-TR and buy him a career [14:06] matey like gates mom [14:06] schestowitz-TR yeah [14:06] schestowitz-TR except gates was not stupid [14:06] schestowitz-TR to be fair [14:06] matey shrewd at least [14:06] schestowitz-TR he was a good student until college, which is where he struggled a bit [14:07] schestowitz-TR anyway, the watsons were the sort of family that would not let you inside the home [14:07] schestowitz-TR you're not their class [14:08] TR News Using the regexp-parser of syslog-ng - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/using-the-regexp-parser-of-syslog-ng Source: syslog-ng [14:08] TR Bot the regexp-parser of syslog-ng - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community [14:08] *CrystalMath (~coderain@yt8kefdbryumc.irc) has joined #techrights [14:09] TR News Kosovo https://bits.debian.org/2022/04/debconf22-infomaniak-platinum.html see https://danielpocock.com/how-kosovo-won-debconf21/ [14:09] TR Bot Infomaniak Platinum Sponsor of DebConf22 - Bits from Debian [14:09] TR Bot How Kosovo won DebConf21 [14:11] TR News [PATCH 00/12] Introducing AMD x2APIC Virtualization (x2AVIC) support. - Suravee Suthikulpanit https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220405230855.15376-1-suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com/ [14:11] TR Bot [PATCH 00/12] Introducing AMD x2APIC Virtualization (x2AVIC) support. - Suravee Suthikulpanit [14:11] DaemonFC It's nice to see we're back to the bad old days where you have theming problems with the other desktop's apps. [14:12] matey the thing about graphical applications is theyre made with graphical toolkits [14:12] schestowitz psydruid: photo https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Linux-x2AVIC-Patches [14:12] Alternative link CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Linux-x2AVIC-Patches https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Linux-x2AVIC-Patches [14:12] TR Bot Readies Linux Patches For x2AVIC Support - Phoronix [14:12] DaemonFC Then again, KDE and Qt have more applications than GTK/GNOME and certainly more good ones. [14:12] matey the thing about graphical toolkits is none of them are suitable. [14:12] DaemonFC I don't even know why I use GNOME at this point. [14:12] DaemonFC It's pretty obvious they're incompetent and don't give a shit. [14:12] matey I don't even know why I use GNOME at this point. <- i wasnt kidding about the masochist thing [14:12] DaemonFC Like this icons problem. [14:12] psydruid schestowitz, I don't read his AMD or Intel stuff anymore [14:12] schestowitz EPYC 7003 [14:13] schestowitz half a dozen [14:13] schestowitz let's see market price [14:13] matey advanced marketing douchebags [14:13] psydruid now it reads like being stuck in 2005 [14:13] schestowitz seems like "new arrrivals" [14:13] psydruid the world has moved on [14:13] schestowitz 6000pounds for the 64 core one [14:15] schestowitz goes up to almost 10000 [14:15] schestowitz per unit [14:15] schestowitz so that photograph is an annual salry [14:15] schestowitz a GOOD salary [14:16] schestowitz-TR "you turn, Intel" - bwahaha, microbell [14:16] schestowitz-TR *youir [14:17] TR News Lots of Ponzi schemes out there. Some more "legit" and "honourable" than others. https://medevel.com/corporations-that-have-created-their-own-cryptocurrency/ NFTs is the funniest of all; too many people took "schrooms"? 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Just like PFIZER! https://www.itweb.co.za/content/Olx4zMkndbL756km [14:21] TR Bot Cybereason achieves 100% prevention, visibility, real-time protection | ITWeb [14:21] DaemonFC Some of the automated tests on the KDE nightly live ISO failed. [14:21] bnchs cybereason achieves 100% prevention [14:21] bnchs cybersecurity hack happens [14:21] bnchs it now achieves 98% prevention [14:21] bnchs another one [14:22] bnchs 95% [14:22] TR News Company: our company 'research' shows 100% success! Verified by company! [14:22] DaemonFC Humorously, the desktop_login test failed because a button moved in KDE and the test suite failed to click on it. [14:22] bnchs another one [14:22] bnchs 80% [14:22] bnchs another one [14:22] schestowitz-TR bnchs: oooh ohhhh... [14:22] bnchs 20% [14:22] schestowitz-TR take the one with 100% [14:22] schestowitz-TR it must be DA BEST [14:23] schestowitz-TR bnchs: my program works 100% of the time [14:23] schestowitz-TR I know because I ran it once [14:23] schestowitz-TR for a fragment of a second [14:23] bnchs yes [14:23] schestowitz-TR ship to product team! [14:23] schestowitz-TR marketing marketing marketing marketing [14:23] bnchs it leaked 10 MB of memory [14:23] bnchs but still works [14:23] bnchs SHIP [14:23] schestowitz Steve Ballmer Going Crazy on Stage - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=I14b-C67EXY Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia [14:23] TR Bot Steve Ballmer Going Crazy on Stage - Invidious [14:24] schestowitz-TR bnchs: don't tell us more [14:24] schestowitz-TR we do NOT want to know [14:24] schestowitz-TR show stoppers? no. [14:24] schestowitz-TR that's bad for revenue [14:25] schestowitz-TR no more delays [14:25] bnchs fuck working efficiently [14:25] schestowitz-TR the maid of Arnold Schwarzenegger was 100% fertile [14:25] bnchs do tons of code workarounds [14:26] bnchs *((struct hospital_data_t*)&data) [14:26] TR News Borat trojan https://www.itworldcanada.com/article/cyber-security-today-april-6-2022-patch-linux-fast-secure-your-totolink-routers-news-on-the-new-borat-trojan-and-more-russia-ukraine-cyberwar/479456 [14:26] TR Bot Cyber Security Today, April 6, 2022 Patch Linux fast, secure your Totolink routers, news on the new Borat trojan and more Russia-Ukraine cyberwar | IT World Canada News [14:26] bnchs what if the struct changes [14:26] bnchs dont give a shit [14:27] TR News Borat trojan. Is nice? [14:29] TR News Grub4dosconfig startup fixed http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163326#comment-33289 [14:29] TR Bot Latest in EasyOS | Tux Machines [14:30] TR News Tachyum Successfully Runs FreeBSD in Prodigy Ecosystem; Expands Open-Source OS Support | Tachyum https://www.tachyum.com/media/press-releases/2022/04/05/tachyum-successfully-runs-freebsd-in-prodigy-ecosystem-expands-open-source-os-support/ Source: tachyum [14:30] Alternative link CloudFlare: tachyum.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.tachyum.com/media/press-releases/2022/04/05/tachyum-successfully-runs-freebsd-in-prodigy-ecosystem-expands-open-source-os-support/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.tachyum.com/media/press-releases/2022/04/05/tachyum-successfully-runs-freebsd-in-prodigy-ecosystem-expands-open-source-os-support/ [14:30] TR Bot Successfully Runs FreeBSD in Prodigy Ecosystem; Expands Open-Source OS Support | Tachyum [14:31] matey Steve Ballmer Going Crazy on Stage <- good thing oprahs couch wasnt around [14:32] TR News Deployd: The REST-API toolkit is not active anymore. https://medevel.com/deployd-rest-api/ Microsoft shithub. [14:32] Alternative link CloudFlare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/deployd-rest-api/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/deployd-rest-api/ [14:32] TR Bot Deployd: The REST-API toolkit is not active anymore. [14:32] schestowitz-TR matey: lol [14:32] schestowitz-TR tom cruisew [14:32] schestowitz-TR mental show for mental audience [14:32] matey tom cruise: developers! developers! developers! [14:32] schestowitz-TR "dr" phil [14:33] schestowitz-TR and cookoos from Church of Scientology [14:33] schestowitz-TR btw, oprah is a shill for bill gates [14:33] matey phil had his license revoked [14:33] schestowitz-TR don't ask me if she's also fronting for "rich people" [14:33] matey oprah is a very rich woman. of course shes going to shill for very rich people [14:33] schestowitz-TR yeah [14:33] matey plus he does a lot work for CHARITY but doesnt like to talk about it [14:33] schestowitz-TR I have lots more to say [14:33] schestowitz-TR but she contributed to the dumbing down of USP [14:33] schestowitz-TR *USA [14:34] matey i doubt she was a significant factor really [14:34] matey so many stupid talk shows [14:34] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:35] schestowitz-TR jerry springer became mainstream [14:35] matey dr phil not as bad as [14:35] schestowitz-TR not it's rebranded [14:35] matey i was just going to say [14:35] schestowitz-TR it's called "the oscars" [14:35] matey dr phil wasnt as bad as springer [14:35] matey and i fucking hate dr phil [14:35] schestowitz-TR "fuck ricky lake... the oscars are on, there's gonna be some beating up" [14:35] schestowitz-TR after the tyson fury fight... the oscars [14:35] matey /me wonders whatever happened to ricki lake [14:36] schestowitz-TR we have "trish" here [14:36] schestowitz-TR that's the british equiv [14:36] schestowitz-TR we also have springer-like shows [14:36] matey "you can always go on ricki lake" pretty fly (for a white guy) [14:36] schestowitz-TR with shoutings, and brawls [14:36] matey yeah like the one in shawn of the dead [14:36] matey "i still love im, trisha!" [14:36] schestowitz-TR graham norton was a thing when I still had a tv [14:37] matey i love graham norton [14:37] matey but hes not daytime [14:37] matey the nighttime talk shows are about celebs [14:37] matey the daytime ones are the REALLY stupid ones [14:37] schestowitz-TR i stopped watching [14:37] schestowitz-TR paxman and all [14:37] matey nighttime: comedy and celebs [14:37] schestowitz-TR I'm not following [14:37] matey daytime: absolute shit [14:37] schestowitz-TR comeeddy and celebes => that's twitter [14:37] schestowitz-TR and gulagtube [14:37] schestowitz-TR to give impression of size [14:37] matey daytime: facebook [14:38] schestowitz-TR while they gaslight all the people who actually MADE UP the platform [14:38] matey sure [14:38] matey thats what always happens to these things [14:38] matey a bunch of people build it up [14:38] schestowitz-TR seems like a common modus operandi [14:38] matey then they get escorted out of libreplanet [14:38] schestowitz-TR they realise they cannot 'cash in' on ordinary people [14:38] matey i mean off the property [14:38] matey to make way for the new vips [14:38] schestowitz-TR but brainwashing them for "RICH PEOPLE"... THAT'S big money [14:39] schestowitz-TR matey: did you see the keynotes this year? [14:39] schestowitz-TR I don't want to offend anyone, but W T H? [14:39] matey i mean [14:39] matey i saw the listings, i think [14:39] schestowitz-TR they havd FUCKING SNOWDEN years ago [14:39] matey yes [14:40] schestowitz https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/the-librevr-project/ [14:40] TR Bot The LibreVR Project GNU MediaGoblin [14:40] schestowitz watch this [14:40] schestowitz no comment [14:40] schestowitz watch first 60 secs [14:41] schestowitz-TR don't say anything [14:41] schestowitz-TR don't want to offend [14:41] schestowitz-TR but you will get my point anyway [14:41] schestowitz-TR I think we've run out of worthy talks to repost [14:42] schestowitz-TR some of the ones I saw are not meeting basic standards [14:42] matey "george ezra before he puts his makeup on" [14:43] psydruid "It turns out that Microbell is AMD's largest customer now" [14:43] matey its probably a very cool project [14:43] schestowitz-TR if he's like DaemonFC's grandma, he hoards some under the bed [14:43] psydruid New EPYC arrivals every month [14:44] matey i have trouble getting behind vr because of the capacity for spying on users is unparalleled [14:44] schestowitz-TR EPYC? Take a PYC!! [14:44] schestowitz-TR Post it online to show off [14:44] schestowitz-TR then tell roy it's no worse than what windows 'reviewers' do [14:45] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/murdered.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-murdered#comic ) [14:45] Alternative link CloudFlare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/murdered.png https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/murdered.png [14:45] TR Bot & Happiness (Explosm.net) [14:45] TR News "Arch Linux is a Linux distribution, that offers binary packages in software repositories (aka. repos). To achieve this, packages are built from source files using tooling that is developed by the distribution and various volunteers" https://sleepmap.de/2022/packaging-for-arch-linux/ [14:45] TR Bot Packaging for Arch Linux | SleepMap [14:45] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:46] schestowitz-TR MinceR: vr is hardly new [14:46] schestowitz-TR it's like a hype wave that keeps making comebacks every 10 years [14:46] schestowitz-TR like nintengogo with "ar" [14:46] MinceR what vr [14:46] schestowitz-TR new buzzword [14:46] schestowitz-TR metaverse [14:46] schestowitz-TR second life [14:46] schestowitz-TR "ar" [14:46] *bnchs (~bnchs@rifixwsbueaeu.irc) has joined #techrights [14:46] schestowitz-TR "hololens" [14:46] schestowitz-TR well, biden used that as excuse to bail out microsoft again [14:47] schestowitz-TR btw, same with watches [14:47] schestowitz-TR and touchscreens [14:47] schestowitz-TR they go back to the 80s and 90s [14:47] schestowitz-TR touchscreens 1980s [14:47] schestowitz-TR and still nobody buys a home computer with it [14:47] schestowitz-TR it tires the arm and has many other ergonomic and usability issues [14:47] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:47] schestowitz-TR watches didn't even hold on [14:48] schestowitz-TR not even with shitty apple trying to make them seem like a "cool" status symbol [14:48] schestowitz-TR Android Wear and all... going nowhere [14:48] schestowitz-TR like tabletgs [14:48] schestowitz-TR they are said to make a comeback again [14:48] schestowitz-TR oversized phones without network access except bt and wifi [14:49] matey 27 years ago https://yewtu.be/watch?v=17euo2DzBZI [14:49] TR Bot (1995) Nintendo Virtual Boy Commercial - Invidious [14:50] schestowitz-TR oh, nice [14:50] schestowitz-TR nintendo go [14:50] schestowitz-TR only nicer [14:50] schestowitz bill gates: wait, is Virtual Boy legal? [14:51] schestowitz will melinda catch me? [14:52] matey The Virtual Boy was panned by critics and was a commercial failure, even after repeated price drops. Its failure has been attributed to its high price, monochrome display, unimpressive stereoscopic effect, lack of true portability, and health concerns. [14:53] matey Stereoscopic technology in video game consoles reemerged in later years to more success, including Nintendo's 3DS handheld console. As of March 2021[update], it is Nintendo's lowest-selling standalone console and the only to have less than 1 million units sold https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Boy [14:53] TR Bot Virtual Boy - Wikipedia [14:54] matey According to David Sheff's book Game Over, the increasingly reluctant Yokoi never intended for the increasingly downscaled Virtual Boy to be released in its final form. However, Nintendo pushed it to market so that it could focus development resources on its next console, the Nintendo 64. [14:55] matey By mid-1996, Blockbuster was selling its Virtual Boy units at $50 each. [14:55] schestowitz-TR how much by today's money? [14:55] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [14:55] schestowitz-TR 200? [14:55] matey i dont think that much [14:55] matey To achieve a color display, Nintendo would have used a combination of red, green, and blue LEDs. At the time, blue LEDs were still considerably expensive and would in turn raise the price of the final product. [14:56] *ziraffep has quit (Quit) ● Apr 06 [15:03] schestowitz-TR vr is everywhere now [15:03] schestowitz-TR kids on their hoverboard [15:03] schestowitz-TR with their sneakers that have lights inside them [15:03] schestowitz-TR wearing a "smart" watch [15:04] schestowitz-TR and "smart" gloves [15:04] schestowitz-TR just like in the movies [15:05] schestowitz-TR I suppose sci-fi futurists did not want to speculate wrong [15:05] schestowitz-TR and in a non-PC way [15:05] schestowitz-TR for movie scripts [15:05] schestowitz-TR like kids going about with "I want to have sex" apps [15:05] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [15:05] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@e6rkz3ubzj9z2.irc) has joined #techrights [15:05] matey honestly despite that presentation [15:05] schestowitz-TR scrolling down "Walls" to press "like" [15:05] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:06] matey and despite the fact that theyre german, which seems to be overriding any sense of decency i have [15:06] schestowitz-TR wanting to buy another phone to add 2 more CPU cores to open a "site" where they enter a postcode [15:06] matey they do some really impressive things towards free software [15:06] matey and they have an fsfe-based blog. you can imagine what i think about this. [15:06] matey with that said, its a good blog. [15:07] schestowitz-TR plural or singular? [15:07] schestowitz-TR how many are involved? [15:07] matey they is their preferred pronoun [15:07] matey https://git.libre-soc.org/ [15:07] TR Bot Git [15:07] schestowitz-TR I knopw [15:08] schestowitz-TR but that leads to confusion [15:08] schestowitz-TR we need not to allow abuse of language [15:08] schestowitz-TR it causes confusion where I work [15:08] matey i dont care, lots of words lead to confusion [15:08] schestowitz-TR and leads to communication problems [15:08] matey english is a shitty language [15:09] matey imo singular they solves more problems than it causes [15:09] schestowitz-TR that's not the point [15:09] schestowitz-TR that's how English works [15:09] matey i think it is [15:09] matey no [15:09] schestowitz-TR and it's more expressive [15:09] schestowitz-TR should we also replace the word "I" with "we"? [15:09] matey thats not "how english works" [15:09] matey english has had singular they for a very long time [15:10] matey i was using it years before it became a trans issue [15:10] matey for convenience [15:10] schestowitz-TR depends on the context [15:10] matey yes! [15:10] schestowitz-TR like inside a sentence [15:10] matey ambiguous words always depend on context [15:10] schestowitz-TR but now it's abused [15:10] matey like apple [15:10] schestowitz-TR and it leads to sever communication issuesa [15:10] matey is it a computer? is it a fruit? is it a person named apple? [15:10] schestowitz-TR even results in bad outcomes and work [15:10] matey it depends on the usage [15:10] schestowitz-TR because issues are being miscommunicated [15:11] matey my guess is youre exaggerating [15:11] schestowitz-TR many languages have gendered words [15:11] schestowitz-TR and those are useful [15:11] schestowitz-TR because they save time working around mbiguity [15:11] schestowitz-TR "go with her" [15:11] schestowitz-TR "he solved the problem" [15:11] matey her is also ambiguous [15:11] schestowitz-TR "they are complaining about downtime" [15:12] matey pronouns by nature are ambiguous [15:12] matey unless theyre personal [15:12] schestowitz-TR they limit the scope [15:12] schestowitz-TR scope-limiting is powerful [15:12] matey sure [15:12] schestowitz-TR in some languages there are plural female [15:12] schestowitz-TR or plural male [15:12] schestowitz-TR those two can help [15:12] schestowitz-TR even in poetry [15:12] schestowitz-TR watering down the language [15:13] schestowitz-TR makes the languages more primitive [15:13] matey but i mean "she" only narrows a large crowd down to about 52% of the crowd without other context [15:13] matey its ambiguous too [15:13] schestowitz-TR but it's better than nothing [15:13] matey unless its incorrect [15:13] schestowitz-TR this abuse of language was never about simplifying lamngauge [15:13] schestowitz-TR it's about political goals [15:13] matey if youre saying someone should change their identity to conform to english, thats a bit weird [15:14] schestowitz-TR and whe politics damage linguistics we can reject the change [15:14] schestowitz-TR like the word "liberal" [15:14] matey it's about political goals <- you know, ive watched feminism and lgbtq get hijacked for bullshit purposes for years [15:14] matey and i cant say im concerned about singular they [15:14] matey because its a non-problem [15:14] schestowitz-TR it is [15:14] schestowitz-TR at workplaces [15:14] schestowitz-TR it leads to excommunications [15:15] schestowitz-TR and then leads to wrong actions [15:15] matey excommunications <- who was excommunicated at work [15:15] schestowitz-TR typo [15:15] matey i thought maybe yes [15:15] schestowitz-TR miscommunications [15:15] matey right [15:15] matey english is like c [15:15] matey if you dont use it properly bad shit can happen [15:16] schestowitz-TR c is english [15:16] matey lets eat grandpa! [15:16] matey lets eat, grandpa! [15:17] schestowitz-TR punctuation matters [15:17] schestowitz-TR should we remove it? [15:17] matey in this instance quite a lot [15:17] matey some punctuation absolutely matters more than others [15:18] schestowitz-TR let's also remove all the doubly-ungood words [15:18] schestowitz-TR just in case [15:18] schestowitz-TR in case people might use the language to "incite" [15:18] matey im actually arguing in favour of adding a word already in use, not removing words [15:18] matey "adding" [15:19] matey The Oxford English Dictionary traces singular they back to 1375, where it appears in the medieval romance William and the Werewolf. Except for the old-style language of that poem, its use of singular they to refer to an unnamed person seems very modern. [15:20] matey Even people who object to singular they as a grammatical error use it themselves when theyre not looking, a sure sign that anyone who objects to singular they is, if not a fool or an idiot, at least hopelessly out of date. https://public.oed.com/blog/a-brief-history-of-singular-they/ [15:20] TR Bot A brief history of singular they | Oxford English Dictionary [15:20] schestowitz-TR maybe for a reason [15:20] matey not my words... [15:20] schestowitz-TR maybe it was adopted to make the language more expressive, less ambiguous [15:20] matey Professor of English and linguistics at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign [15:20] matey granted it would have even more "oompf" if he were british [15:21] matey but it IS the oed blog [15:21] schestowitz-TR published 2018 [15:21] schestowitz-TR you lose your job at universities now if you take another stance [15:21] matey Former Chief Editor of the OED Robert Burchfield, in The New Fowlers Dictionary of Modern English Usage (1996), dismisses objections to singular they as unsupported by the historical record. [15:21] matey you lose your job at universities now if you take another stance <- think thats extreme of course [15:21] schestowitz-TR it is extreme [15:21] schestowitz-TR of course [15:21] matey of course it is [15:21] TR News Links 06/04/2022: Snap to Flatpak Bridge | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/snap-to-flatpak-bridge/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/06/snap-to-flatpak-bridge/ [15:21] TR Bot Links 06/04/2022: Snap to Flatpak Bridge | Techrights [15:22] matey but nonetheless [15:22] schestowitz-TR good luck being a uni professor and even SUGGESTING that Russia MIGHT have something to be unhappy about in Ukraine/NATO [15:22] matey in The New Fowlers Dictionary of Modern English Usage (1996), dismisses objections to singular they as unsupported by the historical record. <- plural-only-they is NOT "how english works" [15:22] matey its how some people would prefer it work. [15:22] schestowitz-TR You cannot even THINK about saying something remotely in that direction [15:23] schestowitz-TR and with social control media society became more like that [15:23] schestowitz-TR deploatform/cancel culture [15:23] schestowitz-TR witch-burning, digital version [15:23] matey you know i rebel against a lot of formalism, particularly in english [15:23] chunky tech rights are so important!!!!!!!! [15:23] matey and i reject the code of conduct at lieplanet as well [15:23] schestowitz-TR matey: so watch out [15:23] schestowitz-TR you might be next [15:23] matey LOL [15:23] matey im used to being next [15:24] matey and its especially funny coming from you [15:24] schestowitz-TR now you can get banned from irc for the f work alone [15:24] schestowitz-TR *word [15:24] matey well i dont typically bother with irc [15:24] matey he says in irc [15:24] matey but its true [15:24] schestowitz-TR can you imagine carlin doing a skit in 2022? [15:24] schestowitz-TR not 15 years ago, which is iirc when he died? [15:24] matey yes, via satellite from a remote location [15:24] schestowitz-TR not only would they not air it [15:24] matey possibly from a cave in afghanistan [15:24] schestowitz-TR "concern groups" would corner the old man [15:25] schestowitz-TR "FUCKING! IRISH! MAN! WHITE! DISGUSTING! OFFENSIVE! NAZI! FASCIST!" [15:25] matey i agree with you on the nature of the problem [15:26] schestowitz-TR "TRUMP APOLOGIST" [15:26] matey not the role that singular they plays within in [15:26] matey within it [15:26] schestowitz-TR "but, listen, he didn't even MENTION TRUMP!" [15:26] schestowitz-TR sorry [15:26] schestowitz-TR "but, listen, THEY didn't even MENTION TRUMP!" [15:27] matey the ultra-left problem is a real problem [15:27] schestowitz-TR it's not even left [15:27] matey has been for 100 years [15:27] schestowitz-TR imo [15:27] matey oh it really is [15:27] matey maybe not iyo [15:27] schestowitz-TR left means something like antiwar [15:27] schestowitz-TR of coexistence [15:27] schestowitz-TR that barely exists in that sphere [15:28] matey ultra-left has an interesting meaning wrt all this [15:28] schestowitz-TR those whom you call ultra-left does not vote Green [15:28] schestowitz-TR or Communist [15:28] schestowitz-TR they vote Wall Street [15:28] matey yes [15:28] matey thats the problem [15:28] schestowitz-TR ok [15:28] matey heres how that happens [15:28] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163418 [15:28] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [15:28] matey the left support workers-- always. they support the working class [15:28] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163419 [15:28] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:29] matey calling yourself left and having disdain for the working classes is simply a joke. [15:29] TR News Free Software Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163420 [15:29] TR Bot Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:29] matey but the ultra-left [15:29] TR News Fedora and Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163421 [15:29] TR Bot Fedora and Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:29] matey they get these ideas, these priorities [15:29] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163422 [15:29] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [15:29] matey which suddenly overtake everything else! [15:29] matey now the workers dont matter, society doesnt matter [15:29] matey ONLY THIS THING [15:29] matey call it extremism if you like [15:30] matey they start out with otherwise reasonable ideas-- ideas for progress [15:30] matey but they abandon the needs of the working classes [15:30] schestowitz-TR but wait [15:30] schestowitz-TR no [15:30] matey because of this they cant find any allies in the left [15:30] matey yes [15:30] schestowitz-TR it never starts with needs of working class [15:30] matey because of this they cant find any allies in the left [15:30] schestowitz-TR that's the issue [15:30] schestowitz-TR it's not in their lexicon [15:30] matey so where do they turn? any port in a storm [15:30] schestowitz-TR we need to do more unionisation [15:31] schestowitz-TR and less of this fruitless pronoun-policing [15:31] matey facebook, microsoft, ibm, dept of defense [15:31] schestowitz-TR or more debate about wall street [15:31] schestowitz-TR less about abortion [15:31] matey they end up siding with the capitalists [15:31] schestowitz-TR they focus on divisive nonsense, promoted intentionally by the ruling class [15:31] schestowitz-TR because it is so divisive [15:31] schestowitz-TR that we eat our own [15:31] matey they focus on divisive nonsense, promoted intentionally by the ruling class <- this is what ends up happening [15:31] schestowitz-TR while they eat all the pies [15:31] DaemonFC Mr. GOOLAG Loves I.C.E. [15:31] schestowitz-TR when I say they I mean plural for the oligarchs [15:31] matey that we eat our own <- thats what happens when you let the ultra-left take over [15:32] matey whats so funny about this ultra-left is [15:32] matey its not a term the right came up with, but the left. [15:32] schestowitz-TR but it is not ultra-left [15:32] schestowitz-TR calling it that is misleading [15:32] matey its not a new term, but a 100 year old term [15:33] schestowitz-TR and serves to demonise the left [15:33] matey nope! [15:33] matey it doesnt. [15:33] schestowitz-TR the bigots (nationalists) use the term [15:33] matey nope, youre getting history wrong, but go ahead. [15:33] schestowitz-TR ok, never mind [15:33] matey it doesnt demonise the left at all [15:34] schestowitz-TR name for me an org that is ultraleft [15:34] schestowitz-TR is sfc ultra-left? [15:34] DaemonFC What Alan Pope is suggesting you do with Snap would likely break Ubuntu itself at some point. [15:34] schestowitz-TR CAIR? [15:34] schestowitz-TR ultra-left? [15:34] matey is sfc ultra-left? <- kuhn is [15:34] schestowitz-TR apologists of radical islamists? [15:34] DaemonFC It removes the entire Snap system, and Ubuntu is moving away from Debian packages. [15:34] schestowitz-TR SPLC [15:34] schestowitz-TR ultra-left? [15:34] matey i dont know wtf splc is, honestly [15:34] matey i know what it stands for [15:34] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: he left canonical [15:34] schestowitz-TR went to some proprietary company [15:35] DaemonFC Of course if you intend to stay on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS for 10 years, you're not going to worry about it on that system, probably. [15:35] schestowitz-TR maybe relaised he hated it there [15:35] schestowitz-TR stopped blogging [15:35] matey and Ubuntu is moving away from Debian packages. <- for a few years running yes [15:35] schestowitz-TR then started some (iirc) shithub prokect [15:35] matey is sfc ultra-left? <- most of the things you complain about are examples of ultra-left [15:35] schestowitz-TR splc used to be ok [15:35] schestowitz-TR but that changed [15:35] schestowitz-TR it got hijacked [15:35] schestowitz-TR much like eff [15:35] matey splc used to be ok <- what decade? [15:36] matey eff actually did some good [15:36] schestowitz-TR lf was always the shit, but getting worse each year [15:36] matey back in the day [15:36] matey i dont know if splc ever did [15:36] schestowitz-TR mozilla alsol [15:36] schestowitz-TR is mozilla "ultra-left"? [15:36] schestowitz-TR the management? [15:36] schestowitz-TR the gulag marionette? [15:36] matey is mozilla "ultra-left"? <- some of their politics are [15:36] schestowitz-TR gulag is not left at all [15:36] matey the gulag marionette? <- i dont have a lot to say about him at this time [15:37] schestowitz-TR baker [15:37] matey theres nothing bad i could say that isnt said constantly, that i havent already said myself [15:37] schestowitz-TR who clobbers mozilla [15:37] schestowitz-TR baker is not he [15:37] matey baker is a terrible human being. [15:37] schestowitz-TR or him [15:37] matey i was not referring to baker when i said he [15:37] matey i thought you meant anotehr gulag person [15:37] schestowitz-TR baker ruined firefox [15:37] schestowitz-TR and by extension the web [15:37] schestowitz-TR many sites no longer test with firefox [15:37] matey baker is (afaik) only connected to gulag via bribes [15:38] matey was she priorly employed there or something? [15:38] schestowitz-TR fturns out posting junk and removing engineers kind of drives user away [15:38] matey many sites no longer test with firefox <- its a wonder when the browser even opens, let alone renders a website [15:38] schestowitz-TR she helps gmail take over email [15:38] matey nonetheless i thought you were referring to someone else [15:39] schestowitz-TR what is ultra-left then? bkuhn? [15:39] matey you know ive answered SEVERAL instances of this question, just now, including that one [15:39] schestowitz-TR ask bkuhn what he thinks of israel shelling gaza [15:39] matey bkuhn is absolutely ultra-left [15:39] schestowitz-TR to see how "let" he is [15:39] schestowitz-TR *lefgt [15:40] matey youre still not clear on what ultra-left means, although ive explained it [15:40] matey thats why youre struggling with this [15:40] schestowitz-TR maybe it's just a giant misnomer [15:40] matey you think im just slapping words together out of convenience [15:40] matey or opportunism [15:40] schestowitz-TR another one the bigots habitually use not is "alt-left" [15:40] matey maybe it's just a giant misnomer <- maybe. i happen to think it explains the past 100 years (especially the present) very neatly, once its understood what it actually means [15:41] schestowitz-TR apparently coined by Clinton's team [15:41] schestowitz-TR and then adopted by Trump and others [15:41] schestowitz-TR to mean people who oppose fascists [15:41] matey well as i said, im not quoting anyone from the past 40 years, its older than that [15:41] schestowitz-TR ok, I need to read up on it [15:41] matey like singular they goes back to what was it-- 375? 1375? a ways [15:41] schestowitz-TR maybe it's some oddball satirical word [15:41] schestowitz-TR like "ultraorthodox" [15:41] matey ok, I need to read up on it <- ill find you a link [15:42] matey ultraorthodox <- isnt a satirical word at all [15:42] schestowitz-TR which typically boils down to fanatic nutcases [15:42] schestowitz-TR whereas the term orthodox on its own does not imply that [15:42] matey it describes anything to the right of orthodox judaism [15:42] matey where for example, women are not allowed to sing [15:42] matey because of some line that implies female singing is a problem [15:43] schestowitz-TR let me check wikipedia on "ultra left" [15:43] matey wikipedia wont help you [15:43] matey actually let me check if it might [15:43] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-leftism [15:43] TR Bot Ultra-leftism - Wikipedia [15:43] schestowitz it's marxist [15:43] schestowitz bkuhn is an avid capitalist shill [15:43] schestowitz nowhere like marxist [15:44] matey you know what [15:44] matey wikipedia might actually help here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-leftism [15:44] schestowitz ah [15:44] schestowitz-TR wait, so they have colliding defs [15:44] matey bkuhn is an avid capitalist shill <- he might be, but it wouldnt negate anything im saying [15:44] schestowitz-TR seems like abused term, like "liberal" [15:44] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-leftism#Pejorative_usage [15:44] TR Bot Ultra-leftism - Wikipedia [15:45] schestowitz "Used pejoratively, ultra-left is used to label positions that are adopted without taking notice of the current situation or of the consequences which would result from following a proposed course. The term is used to criticize leftist positions that, for example, are seen as overstating the tempo of events, propose initiatives that overestimate the current level of militancy, or which employ appeals to violence in their activism" [15:45] schestowitz So maybe that's what it nowadays means [15:45] schestowitz so the original term lost its substance [15:45] matey so heres something the article mentions: [15:45] matey "The mainstream Marxist critique of such a position began with Vladimir Lenin's "Left-Wing" Communism: An Infantile Disorder," [15:45] matey thats actually the work i was going to link you to. [15:45] matey and its far from "recent" [15:46] matey and you notice that it comes from the "right-wing bigot" vladimir lenin [15:46] matey who of course is neither right wing nor a bigot [15:47] matey but as you can see, the term "ultra-left" as a pejoritive [15:47] matey is actually coined by the left itself. [15:47] matey not the right. [15:47] matey and its not recent either. [15:47] schestowitz-TR but the right latches onto it [15:47] matey and yet it is incredibly applicable to current events [15:47] schestowitz-TR "alt-left" was not made up by Trump [15:47] schestowitz-TR but team HRC [15:47] matey but the right latches onto it <- the right will latch onto anything that gives them 15 minutes of fame [15:48] schestowitz-TR anyway, bbiab [15:48] matey but team HRC <- is incredibly capitalist [15:49] matey "The term has been popularized in the United States by the Socialist Workers Party at the time of the Vietnam war, using the term to describe opponents in the anti-war movement including Gerry Healy." [15:49] matey "The term has been popularized in the United States by the Socialist Workers Party" <- also not very right wing [15:49] matey and not TERRIBLY recent (but certainly moreso, as there are veterans of that war living today) [15:50] matey and here wikipedia echoes what i was saying before you went in search of more info: [15:50] matey "Ultra-leftism is often associated with leftist sectarianism, in which a socialist organization might attempt to put its own short-term interests before the long-term interests of the working class and its allies." [15:51] matey #techrights : 04/06/22 14:30 they start out with otherwise reasonable ideas-- ideas for progress [15:51] matey but they abandon the needs of the working classes [15:51] matey #techrights : 04/06/22 14:30 but they abandon the needs of the working classes [15:51] matey #techrights : 04/06/22 14:29 they get these ideas, these priorities [15:51] matey which suddenly overtake everything else! [15:52] matey this is highly relevant not only for explaining the tragedy of contemporary politics... [15:52] matey but it also coherently explains what the fuck has happened to the free software movement in recent yaers [15:53] matey in not-entirely-outdated terms that we have known about for nearly a century, because similar problems existed that far back. [15:53] matey this is HIGHLY relevant to free software [15:53] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [15:53] matey it gives us an idea of whats happened, where its headed, and even what can be done about it [15:54] matey but it also warns against putting the ultra-left in charge (which they are. of lieplanet.) [15:54] matey and this is not an anti-left position [15:54] matey the ultra-left ultimately hijack, oppose and thwart the left. [15:55] matey weve seen it happen [15:55] matey it even explains how otherwise well-meaning people can get sucked into the idea that this nonsense is actually progress. [15:56] matey but then turn against progress and sell it off to github, microsoft, google etc [15:56] matey not to mention capitalists in general (on a larger scale than the free sw movement) [15:57] matey on the one side you have people like coraline ada ehmke who are destroying freedom with her bullshit [15:58] matey but then you have people like leah who wont throw away the cause of freedom for another cause, but instead work to make progress with both. [15:58] matey bluntly, we need more people like leah and we need to avoid bullshit like coralines ● Apr 06 [16:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 47.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 78.51 average k/sec., average swarm size 281.15 [16:14] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@rifixwsbueaeu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:23] schestowitz-TR ok, i'm back. done recording. [16:23] schestowitz-TR epo breaking laws again. [16:23] schestowitz-TR am i living in china????? [16:24] matey nice of them to follow a few. [16:24] schestowitz-TR even that is rare [16:24] schestowitz-TR I am upset that the media isn't covering it [16:24] matey am i living in china????? <- i dont know, the world seems to import a lot from there [16:24] schestowitz-TR it is COMPLECITY [16:24] schestowitz-TR like in CHINA [16:24] schestowitz-TR *COMPLICIT [16:24] matey mmhmm [16:25] schestowitz-TR welcome to newsroom [16:25] schestowitz-TR rule number 1 in this fight club [16:25] schestowitz-TR We ignore THIS scandal ->>> [16:25] schestowitz-TR it's ABOVE criticism [16:25] matey you know i have a mostly irrational hatred of germans, which is funny because its not even my least-favourite country [16:25] matey my least favourite country is china, and i like chinese people just fine. [16:25] matey i only dislike the country. but with germans, its different. [16:26] matey theyre basically the only group i can think of that i have a (mostly) irrational hatred towards. im working on it. [16:26] schestowitz spamnil openwashing icbm https://www.tfir.io/ambitus-helps-developers-create-open-source-solutions-on-ibm-z/ [16:26] Alternative link CloudFlare: tfir.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.tfir.io/ambitus-helps-developers-create-open-source-solutions-on-ibm-z/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.tfir.io/ambitus-helps-developers-create-open-source-solutions-on-ibm-z/ [16:26] TR Bot Ambitus Helps Developers Create Open Source Solutions On IBM Z - TFiR: Interviews, News & Analysis by Swapnil Bhartiya [16:27] matey sometimes you need a break from shilling for microsoft and apple [16:27] matey and ibm is perfect for that [16:27] schestowitz-TR edpo reinforces your stigma [16:27] schestowitz-TR many who work there are not german [16:27] schestowitz-TR and they thought they moved to a more civilised eu state [16:27] matey well i dont really factor the epo in [16:27] matey i mean im not a fan [16:28] matey but theyre not a factor [16:28] schestowitz-TR they are when it comes to software [16:28] matey of course [16:28] schestowitz-TR they impact patent policy wordwide [16:28] schestowitz-TR it's a cabal [16:28] schestowitz-TR through wipo [16:28] matey not even doubted [16:28] schestowitz-TR wipo and two as two of several unbrellas [16:28] schestowitz-TR *wtoi [16:28] schestowitz-TR *wto [16:29] schestowitz-TR brb [16:33] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/Matt/Help.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/matt-help#comic ) [16:33] Alternative link CloudFlare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Matt/Help.png https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://files.explosm.net/comics/Matt/Help.png [16:33] TR Bot & Happiness (Explosm.net) [16:34] bnchs__ MinceR: funny [16:40] psydruid I hope that WIPO and EPO people will mysteriously disappear when they go to Eastern European and Asian countries [16:41] matey id actually start with wipo [16:41] matey they need it more urgently [16:41] psydruid "sorry, he got lost somewhere" [16:41] matey so, fingers crossed [16:41] matey but if epo was right behind, the more the merrier [16:41] matey and then the eu. [16:42] matey psydruid, i may have asked you this before, but have you seen this yet? https://libre-soc.org/ [16:42] TR Bot libre-soc [16:42] psydruid all of then must be destroyed one by one [16:42] matey it looks interesting, but i never trust my first impression if its positive :) [16:43] psydruid matey, I have, I brought it up here a year or two ago [16:43] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:43] matey whats the verdict? [16:43] psydruid wait and see [16:43] matey that is fair [16:43] bnchs__ psydruid, nah he didn't get lost [16:44] bnchs__ he just took a little.. vacation [16:44] matey there was a presentation of some vr thing at lieplanet [16:44] bnchs__ a forever vacation [16:44] matey i would have rather seen one on libre-soc, but maybe they did one on that already [16:44] psydruid I don't know if the people working on it can be trusted to deliver on their promise, considering who they are [16:45] psydruid but I give them the benefit of the doubt [16:45] matey I don't know if the people working on it can be trusted to deliver on their promise, considering who they are <- i mean [16:45] matey it depends on how much fsfe is entrenched with that imo [16:45] matey i dont understand platens connection with fsfe, just a member? staff? [16:46] matey if staff, then fuck the whole thing [16:46] matey if member... thats too bad. [16:46] matey if fsfe has nothing to do with libre-soc really, thats a good sign. [16:46] matey german politics are incredibly fucked no matter wha [16:46] psydruid I don't know who any of these people are and I don't know any of these organizations [16:47] matey oh fsfe is a nightmare [16:47] psydruid and I would like to keep it that way [16:47] matey but reading platens blog is good stuff [16:47] matey and I would like to keep it that way <- yeah i wont tell you anything about fsfe then [16:47] psydruid that's why I don't comment on them in general [16:47] matey reasonable [16:48] psydruid they just distract from the issues we should be tackling [16:48] matey i dont really disagree [16:48] matey but im not sure theyre entirely avoidable either [16:48] psydruid but that's my take on it [16:48] matey like sometimes theres a point to discussing them [16:48] matey however-- [16:48] psydruid they are not relevant to what I am generally doing [16:48] matey giving them TOO MUCH attention leads to exactly the problem you describe [16:49] matey they are not relevant to what I am generally doing <- yeah, i like that youre fiercely independent [16:49] psydruid if anything I would like to see them all destroyed [16:49] matey where do you draw the line though [16:49] matey i mean thats what im always trying to figure out-- where should the line be drawn [16:50] matey like i could easily knock all the kde stuff off my fsd fork [16:50] matey but for now its more useful to put it at the bottom [16:50] matey freedom is really (imo) about where we draw the line. [16:51] matey too many compromises and we are ruined [16:51] matey too few, and we are idle [16:51] matey though the usual threat is too many compromises [16:51] psydruid I draw the line in that I still use that stuff as needed [16:51] matey right [16:51] matey that makes sense [16:52] psydruid but what I work on myself is independent from that [16:52] TR News As the time for bording aproached, the gate agent announced that, "we do not have a captain or first officer for this flight." gemini://1436.ninja/gemlog/20220405.gmi [16:52] matey of course [16:52] psydruid independent from anything, really [16:53] matey i dont think theyre staff [16:53] matey "My name is Tobias Platen and I'm fellow 2069. Currently I'm studying Computer Science at THM-Giessen." [16:53] matey Supporters/tobias_platen [16:53] matey theyre a supporter, thats why they get to host a blog there [16:54] psydruid people want to be on winning teams [16:55] matey people want to be on winning teams <- fuck, yes [16:55] matey its an awful shortcut [16:55] MinceR people are willing to sacrifice themselves to be on winning teams [16:56] MinceR i hate humans so much [16:56] matey people are willing to sacrifice themselves to be on winning teams <- yes [16:56] matey i hate humans so much <- lol [16:56] schestowitz-TR spamnil [16:56] matey theres nothing genetically wrong with us. [16:56] matey you hate society. [16:56] matey its not a species issue [16:56] schestowitz-TR MinceR: y u so angry !!! [16:57] matey because people are dicks (which is true) [16:57] schestowitz-TR an over-generalisation [16:57] schestowitz-TR but depends where you live [16:57] matey but still true [16:57] matey not much :) [16:58] schestowitz-TR I'd say Manchester has fewer dicks than London [16:58] schestowitz-TR I don't mean literal dicks [16:58] matey id say they make up for it [16:58] matey no, no one meant literal dicks [16:58] matey that would be funnier [16:58] schestowitz-TR dick brandon [16:58] MinceR this society is what this species is capable of [16:58] matey this society is what this species is capable of <- i think the species is capable of better [16:58] matey this society is a giant turd though [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 71.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 255.58 [16:59] matey its a sort of boss-level turd-monster ● Apr 06 [17:01] DaemonFC Heh, I dropped Fallout 4 directly into Wine 7.5 in Fedora 36 and it works great. [17:09] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: siren) [17:10] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@i8gtth78frzk8.irc) has joined #techrights [17:15] TR News [Meme] Its All Connected (and Wired) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/social-control-media-and-apps/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/06/social-control-media-and-apps/ [17:15] TR Bot [Meme] Its All Connected (and Wired) | Techrights [17:15] psydruid this society can be destroyed so we can have peace in anarchy [17:17] TR News Coronavirus (COVID-19) in the UK: "Today's update is delayed. The current estimate for release is 5:30pm. Further updates will be provided here." Need more time to 'cook' the numbers a bit to downplay the issue? [17:17] TR News Linux Mint 21 Vanessa Will Be Based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, New Upgrade Tool in the Works Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163423 [17:17] TR Bot Linux Mint 21 Vanessa Will Be Based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, New Upgrade Tool in the Works | Tux Machines [17:17] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163424 [17:17] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:19] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/files/Kris-Chase/aswinterapproachesthemajesticbreadedshrimpmakesitslongandlonelytrekbacktoitsbirthplacetostartafamilywowyum.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/kris-aswinterapproachesthemajesticbreadedshrimpmakesitslongandlonelytrekbacktoitsbirthplacetostartafamilywowyum#comic ) [17:19] Alternative link CloudFlare: explosm.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://files.explosm.net/files/Kris-Chase/aswinterapproachesthemajesticbreadedshrimpmakesitslongandlonelytrekbacktoitsbirthplacetostartafamilywowyum.png https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://files.explosm.net/files/Kris-Chase/aswinterapproachesthemajesticbreadedshrimpmakesitslongandlonelytrekbacktoitsbirthplacetostartafamilywowyum.png [17:19] TR Bot & Happiness (Explosm.net) [17:31] TR News 17:31PM. "Today's update is delayed. The current estimate for release is 5:30pm. Further updates will be provided here." I've even bypassed cache. They're making false promises. [17:34] TR News "The current estimate for release is 5:30pm" -NHS coronavirus portal. The current estimate for release is 5 minutes ago (future tense). [17:38] *ziraffep has quit (connection closed) [17:38] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@kpdwurn3ajvak.irc) has joined #techrights [17:50] MinceR (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/04/05/never-tell-me-the-odds-04-05-22/ [17:50] Alternative link CloudFlare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/04/05/never-tell-me-the-odds-04-05-22/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/04/05/never-tell-me-the-odds-04-05-22/ [17:50] TR Bot The Odds? Never Tell Me The Odds (19 Pics) [17:56] TR News Over 20,000 COVID-19 Patients in British Hospitals, NHS Reports It Has DATA ISSUE and 2,714 Deaths [...] Added Retrospectively on 6 April 2022 http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/06/data-issue/ [17:56] TR Bot Blog Archive Over 20,000 COVID-19 Patients in British Hospitals, NHS Reports It Has DATA ISSUE and 2,714 Deaths [...] Added Retrospectively on 6 April 2022 [17:56] schestowitz-TR China did the same, adding about 3000 in one day [17:56] schestowitz-TR after faking relative calm for months ● Apr 06 [18:01] TR News Will excess mortality report also need to be amended in light of those 'missing' 2700+ dead Brits? https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/excess-mortality-in-england-weekly-reports 2,714 Deaths [...] Added Retrospectively on 6 April 2022 http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/06/data-issue/ [18:01] TR Bot mortality in England: weekly reports - GOV.UK [18:01] psydruid https://docs.maxxinteractive.com/ [18:01] Alternative link CloudFlare: maxxinteractive.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://docs.maxxinteractive.com/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://docs.maxxinteractive.com/ [18:01] TR Bot MaXX Interactive Desktop [18:02] psydruid I don't what exactly the licensing for this amounts to, but it might put current bloated DEs to shame [18:03] DaemonFC https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-AMDGPU-Hotplug [18:03] Alternative link CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-AMDGPU-Hotplug https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-AMDGPU-Hotplug [18:03] TR Bot Working On AMD GPU Hotplug Support For Linux Driver - Phoronix [18:03] psydruid I already dropped back to Mate on all of my systems, because all the other DEs are breaking left and right [18:03] DaemonFC Micro Larabel again. [18:04] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, OMG! ~100 lines of code. Thank God for Microsoft! [18:04] TR News These charts are misleading as 5-year averages take into account the peaks from TWO years of COVID-19 https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1065176/Weekly_report_mortality__W13.pdf [18:04] Alternative link CloudFlare: service.gov.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1065176/Weekly_report_mortality__W13.pdf https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1065176/Weekly_report_mortality__W13.pdf [18:04] psydruid Micro Hotplug That Buttplug! [18:04] psydruid he really likes it [18:04] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: he is compromised [18:04] schestowitz-TR it's AMD [18:05] schestowitz-TR so all the Microsoft-AMD lovefests get covered by that siter [18:06] DaemonFC About Fedora criticizing Nvidia. Their project leader didn't say anything worse than I did. [18:06] schestowitz-TR 'project leader' [18:06] schestowitz-TR ICBM employee [18:07] schestowitz-TR 100% of the time [18:07] DaemonFC I just said Nvidia's driver is full of bizarre bugs and does not conform to the way the rest of the system works, and people shouldn't buy their hardware if that's the only driver that works with it. [18:07] psydruid gang leader [18:07] schestowitz-TR soon he'll turn 50 [18:07] schestowitz-TR and official become "dinobaby" [18:07] DaemonFC They threatened me for saying that/ [18:07] schestowitz-TR on the "chopping block" [18:07] psydruid Fedora threatened you? [18:07] schestowitz-TR they did [18:07] schestowitz-TR he showed me logs [18:07] schestowitz-TR they also ousted some longtimers [18:08] schestowitz-TR only ICBM can criticise things [18:08] psydruid I would threaten Fedora with extinction, if I cared [18:08] schestowitz-TR volunteers are slaves [18:08] DaemonFC With being banned from the rooms and having my COPR taken down. [18:08] schestowitz-TR just smile and keep on working [18:08] schestowitz-TR criticism is a privilege [18:08] psydruid but I don't [18:08] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:08] psydruid just smile and pull the trigger [18:08] DaemonFC I only had a COPR so I could start building Firefox with GCC if I needed to. [18:08] psydruid what is COPR? [18:09] psydruid sounds like a disease [18:09] DaemonFC I do not trust Clang/LLVM to produce good code. In many cases, they have typically "implemented" GCC code hardening features by no-op. [18:09] DaemonFC That is, it says it supports that thing and then does nothing. [18:09] DaemonFC It's strictly there so the build doesn't fail. Maintains "compatibility" with GCC. [18:10] psydruid that's sneaky [18:10] psydruid I guess they really want to replace GCC with nops [18:11] DaemonFC Very sneaky. And the fact that Ubuntu has all of these compliance modes with government "security" standards and then builds things like Firefox using Clang/LLVM, says that the government security standards are worthless. [18:11] DaemonFC The government itself speaks of cyberattacks targeting the government. [18:11] psydruid in POWER assembly you have to insert nops so the assembler has some room to rearrange things [18:11] DaemonFC Then there's still agencies at the state level in Illinois on Windows XP. [18:13] psydruid that's a national security risk [18:13] psydruid but not really, because there is no security [18:13] DaemonFC When I went into one of their offices, they had Dell Pentium 4 systems running XP. Dozens of them in one room. [18:13] DaemonFC In 2017. [18:14] DaemonFC Maybe that's changed now, I don't know. XP was so old then that I'm surprised they could do anything with it. [18:15] DaemonFC There's no reason why Windows XP couldn't still be around today, but Microsoft's hardware partners always cut off the drivers, and then there's product activation for anyone who won't crack it, so no legitimate channels. [18:15] DaemonFC I think I mentioned hacking up some Windows XP drivers to get Windows 98 running. [18:16] DaemonFC Intel put a check in the installer to fail on Windows 98, but you could extract the drivers themselves from it and right click the INFs and tell Windows to install them, then it recognized 2004/2005 era hardware. [18:17] DaemonFC Microsoft and Intel work together to do this to prevent people from continuing to flog an old operating system because it's not as much of a pile of crap as their latest one. [18:18] psydruid yes [18:18] psydruid it's collusion [18:18] DaemonFC They did it again with Intel Skylake. They let you install Windows 7 to it, but then all of the updates started checking to see if you were using Skylake and failing to install if you did. [18:18] DaemonFC There was a shim to lie to the update installer to pretend you were using a processor that was a year older. [18:19] DaemonFC Then the updates worked again. [18:19] matey I already dropped back to Mate on all of my systems, because all the other DEs are breaking left and right <- once someone calls it a desktop environment theyve probably lost already [18:20] psydruid I had Windows 10 installed on an SSD in my old AMD desktop from 2008 until last year summer for proctored exams and it was workable but slow [18:20] matey theoretically it should be no problem [18:20] psydruid yes [18:20] DaemonFC Processors don't change much year after year anymore. [18:20] matey but really, install components [18:20] DaemonFC So it becomes weighing them down with excess junk to make the older model seem really slow. [18:20] matey you dont need an "environment" [18:20] DaemonFC Thus, the illusion of progress. [18:20] matey i have a "desktop environment"-- its a window manager and applications. [18:21] matey but which desktop environment? well, i installed a window manager. and some applications. [18:21] SomeH4x0r wish they died with these exams [18:21] SomeH4x0r why does it matter to harass people? [18:21] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Microsoft has a new taskbar space waster. [18:21] matey SomeH4x0r who [18:21] SomeH4x0r proctored exams admins [18:21] matey ohh [18:22] DaemonFC It tells you the weather and takes about three inches to do it, and if you click on it, there's MSN News that only opens in Edge. [18:22] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imMRzBzQm1U [18:22] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=imMRzBzQm1U [18:22] TR Bot yewtu.be | That Time Sony Secretly Installed Rootkit Software on Hundreds of Thousands of Computers - Invidious [18:22] psydruid there aren't any of those anymore fortunately [18:22] psydruid so I reclaimed the drive for other things [18:22] psydruid updates would just break stuff from one moment to another [18:23] DaemonFC MinceR, Then they settled in court and everyone got $5 and real CDs if they mailed the bogus ones in. [18:23] psydruid that's the true Vista experience [18:23] DaemonFC And everyone lived happily ever after. [18:23] MinceR :> [18:23] MinceR and people learned nothing from it [18:23] DaemonFC MinceR, I still run into XCP CDs at the thrift stores. [18:23] SomeH4x0r do these diplomas matter? A fucking record in a database. [18:23] DaemonFC They do not have the CDDA logo and there's usually a warning that they may fail to play on some car stereos. [18:24] DaemonFC It's actually so much worse than that. [18:24] DaemonFC Some BMW CD players would lock up and refuse to eject the disc. [18:24] DaemonFC They got trapped in an endless loop of trying to play the data section of the CD as audio, over the speakers. [18:24] DaemonFC :) [18:24] MinceR :> [18:25] MinceR "german engineering" [18:25] TR News EPO.org is a Fake News Site Which Promotes and Glorifies Illegal Behaviour and Unlawful Policies | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/epo-org-illegal-content/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/06/epo-org-illegal-content/ [18:25] TR Bot EPO.org is a Fake News Site Which Promotes and Glorifies Illegal Behaviour and Unlawful Policies | Techrights [18:25] DaemonFC Well, it was more original than anything coming out of the music industry that year, I'm sure. [18:25] SomeH4x0r fuck the laws [18:25] SomeH4x0r they mismatch with morality, which is not clearly defined either [18:26] SomeH4x0r they exist to protect the elites while creating the illusion of justice [18:26] bnchs__ MinceR, dave plummer made a video about that [18:26] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [18:27] bnchs__ he defended AutoPlay though [18:27] MinceR lol [18:27] bnchs__ because of course, dave wrote AutoPlay [18:27] TR News FAQ: The Difference Between Centralized and Decentralized https://tedium.co/2022/04/06/centralization-decentralization-social-networking-faq/ Source: tedium [18:27] Alternative link CloudFlare: tedium.co | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2022/04/06/centralization-decentralization-social-networking-faq/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://tedium.co/2022/04/06/centralization-decentralization-social-networking-faq/ [18:27] TR Bot FAQ: The Difference Between Centralized and Decentralized [18:27] psydruid dave the plumber [18:27] psydruid mario in disguise [18:27] MinceR he defends every crime IT corporations commit, doesn't he? [18:27] psydruid some shady mario character [18:28] bnchs__ "sony did a bad thing, but i swear my little autoplay child had nothing to do with it" [18:28] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [18:28] DaemonFC MinceR, I suppose if I needed AAC files, I could clunk iTunes over the head and stuff it in Wine and let foobar2000 use the "Apple AAC codec" that way. [18:28] matey /me has been boycotting sony since 2005 [18:28] MinceR and of course he "worked" for MICROS~1, so naturally he's too stupid to realize that autoplay is a bad idea [18:28] DaemonFC But I don't need those, thank god, I have an Android phone. [18:28] *psydruid doesn't remember the last time he bought any sony devices [18:29] psydruid he "worked" on windows 95, didn't he? [18:29] TR News Probably just changes names, goes under some other shell, carries on as usual without the burden of lawsuits https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/04/cyberweapons-arms-manufacturer-finfisher-shuts-down.html [18:29] TR Bot Arms Manufacturer FinFisher Shuts Down - Schneier on Security [18:29] psydruid he probably implemented the suicide feature [18:29] bnchs__ MinceR: he was the CTO of SoftwareOnline.com after he stopped working at microsoft [18:29] TR News "As falsified war videos and misleading information continue to circulate on Tiktok, the platform should be doing everything in its power to flag Russian propaganda and disinformation." https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ [18:29] Alternative link CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ [18:29] bnchs__ which got involved with Consumer Protection Act violations [18:29] TR Bot Updates: Digital rights in the Russia-Ukraine conflict - Access Now [18:29] psydruid 3 hours of use and it's dead [18:30] MinceR i don't know softwareonline.com [18:30] bnchs__ https://agportal-s3bucket.s3.amazonaws.com/uploadedfiles/Another/News/Press_Releases/2006/SoftwareOnlineComplaint.pdf [18:30] Alternative link CloudFlare: amazonaws.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://agportal-s3bucket.s3.amazonaws.com/uploadedfiles/Another/News/Press_Releases/2006/SoftwareOnlineComplaint.pdf https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://agportal-s3bucket.s3.amazonaws.com/uploadedfiles/Another/News/Press_Releases/2006/SoftwareOnlineComplaint.pdf [18:30] psydruid what a wonderful experience on my first x86 pc [18:30] TR News Was this article sponsored by Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook? https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220406-tiktok-is-having-a-bad-war-say-disinformation-experts [18:30] TR Bot 'TikTok is having a bad war,' say disinformation experts [18:30] psydruid and people were waiting in line to buy that turd [18:30] psydruid a very special turd at that [18:31] bnchs__ MinceR: TL;DR: softwareonline.com was a company that made fake antiviruses that would spout out ads and popups if you didn't buy it [18:31] MinceR fun [18:31] bnchs__ dave plummer was involved with that [18:31] bnchs__ so he had to pay a shit ton [18:31] MinceR also, about what i'd expect of someone from MICROS~1 [18:31] TR News A kind and gentle reminder is in order as smart things are better described as spy things; Social control media and phones are no exception to this http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/social-control-media-and-apps/ [18:31] TR Bot [Meme] Its All Connected (and Wired) | Techrights [18:32] TR News EPO.org the official Web site of Europes second-largest institution has become an insanely dishonest propaganda outlet which incites to break the law and violate constitutions; its not forgivable that other European authorities are tolerating this http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/epo-org-illegal-content/ [18:32] TR Bot EPO.org is a Fake News Site Which Promotes and Glorifies Illegal Behaviour and Unlawful Policies | Techrights [18:33] bnchs__ lol [18:33] bnchs__ the best malware is the ones who know the internals of the operating system they're trying to target [18:34] bnchs__ is made by the ones* [18:35] MinceR so the best malware are windows, ios and macos? [18:35] MinceR oh, and systemd [18:35] bnchs__ do you find these windows ransomware attacks odd? [18:36] bnchs__ because those are able to spread easier and faster because of some internal knowledge [18:36] TR News "Collaboration and sharing just make so much sense, I'm very glad the free software community exists." gemini://calcuode.com/gemlog/2020-11-21_how-i-found-out-about-foss.gmi [18:38] TR News "GOG aren't having the best of times recently, with details about their financial troubles painting a bleak picture, although it seems they have something of a plan. Later they announced some changes, including a tweak to what they mean by DRM free." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/gog-attempt-to-bring-customers-back-with-a-revival-of-good-old-games/ [18:38] Alternative link CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/gog-attempt-to-bring-customers-back-with-a-revival-of-good-old-games/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/gog-attempt-to-bring-customers-back-with-a-revival-of-good-old-games/ [18:38] TR Bot attempt to bring customers back with a revival of Good Old Games | GamingOnLinux [18:38] bnchs__ "including a tweak to what they mean by DRM free." [18:38] TR News Toasty: Ashes of Dusk confirm a Native GNU/Linux build is planned, shown off on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/toasty-ashes-of-dusk-confirm-a-native-linux-build-is-planned-shown-off-on-steam-deck/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [18:38] Alternative link CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/toasty-ashes-of-dusk-confirm-a-native-linux-build-is-planned-shown-off-on-steam-deck/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/toasty-ashes-of-dusk-confirm-a-native-linux-build-is-planned-shown-off-on-steam-deck/ [18:38] TR Bot Ashes of Dusk confirm a Native Linux build is planned, shown off on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux [18:38] psydruid they used to say that Linux hackers were targetting windows [18:39] psydruid but why would you attack something you don't know anything about? [18:39] schestowitz-TR Linux hackers? [18:39] schestowitz-TR what does that mean [18:39] schestowitz-TR coders? [18:39] schestowitz-TR white hats? [18:39] schestowitz-TR blackhats? [18:39] schestowitz-TR targeting Linux [18:39] schestowitz-TR using Linux [18:39] bnchs__ windows ransomwares are able to spread easier because maybe [18:40] bnchs__ just maybe [18:40] bnchs__ they managed to get some important internal knowledge [18:40] psydruid people who know Linux inside out and who would go out of their way to attack Windows [18:40] bnchs__ maybe a exposed port with a vulnerable service running on it [18:40] psydruid I don't know if you can still find these things online nowadays [18:41] DaemonFC and of course he "worked" for MICROS~1, so naturally he's too stupid to realize that autoplay is a bad idea [18:41] TR News Open source XR runtime Monado adds initial 6DoF 'inside-out' tracking support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163419#comment-33290 [18:41] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:41] DaemonFC Conficker loved that. You may now romance Conficker. [18:41] DaemonFC Also, Mr. Goolag I guess. "All the interesting people are using Windows." [18:41] MinceR :> [18:41] matey they managed to get some important internal knowledge <- i mean, you can use security research methods to find vulnerabilities on any system [18:41] MinceR why does he hang around here, then? [18:42] matey you dont have to be a windows person or a "linux" person [18:42] bnchs__ matey: yeah but [18:42] schestowitz-TR matey: trolling [18:42] schestowitz-TR dirt-digging [18:42] schestowitz-TR and provocation [18:42] bnchs__ you can bribe a microsoft programmer [18:42] bnchs__ for some source code [18:42] schestowitz-TR to attack us somehow, usually from the outside [18:42] DaemonFC GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLAG? [18:42] schestowitz-TR "look at those extreme things they said when I brought up [x]" [18:42] DaemonFC I think he's simping, honestly. [18:43] matey schestowitz-TR: if you and bnchs__ are talking about the samthing i wasnt aware of it [18:43] DaemonFC As the kids say it these days. [18:43] matey i was talking about his theory [18:43] matey i think youre talking about something more social in nature [18:43] schestowitz-TR [10:57] mjg59 has been baiting the channel for many days now [18:43] schestowitz-TR [10:57] I was going to comment on that yesterday but got distracted [18:43] schestowitz-TR [10:57] It's important to not feed the troll but some have been writing responses to [18:43] schestowitz-TR [10:57] him lately; he's not going to change since he's not there in good faith anyway [18:43] matey I think he's simping, honestly. <- lol cmon [18:43] schestowitz-TR [11:07] however it seems he has been segueing from trolling/stalking to outright [18:43] schestowitz-TR [11:07] harrassment [18:43] schestowitz-TR [11:15] yes, but others have been feeding him [18:43] schestowitz-TR [11:15] there's nothing to be gained from any response to his provocations [18:43] schestowitz-TR [11:15] stalking like that is illegal [18:43] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [18:44] bnchs__ yeah [18:44] matey stalking like that is illegal <- hanging out in irc is illegal? [18:44] bnchs__ mjg was a bit odd [18:44] MinceR schestowitz-TR: why do we let him, though? [18:44] psydruid MMHA [18:44] matey mjg was a bit odd <- did he say something odder than usual? [18:45] matey i mean theres a long history of... did something happen in the past couple days? [18:45] matey you guys make it sound like it escalated or something [18:45] matey like recently [18:45] matey harrassment <- debian harassment? [18:45] matey by debian standards or historical irc standards? [18:46] matey this is the internet, we used to have real flame wars [18:46] matey now we have tame wars [18:47] matey schestowitz-TR: why do we let him, though? <- he was censored for a long time, now hes not [18:47] schestowitz-TR [18:44] schestowitz-TR: why do we let him, though? [18:47] schestowitz-TR good question [18:47] matey what happened there? [18:47] schestowitz-TR his aim here is simple: to cause harm [18:47] schestowitz-TR it's like when you allow some pervert into a FOSS conference [18:47] bnchs__ schestowitz-TR, obviously [18:47] schestowitz-TR knowing he's there looking for sex [18:47] bnchs__ he causes infighting [18:48] bnchs__ rather than actually helping [18:48] schestowitz-TR and if not, then he's "missing out" [18:48] schestowitz-TR we don't have a CoC [18:48] schestowitz-TR we're above his lunacy [18:48] schestowitz-TR but please do not feed trolls [18:48] psydruid I like that he keeps working on x86 with UEFI, Secure Boot, TPM, Pluton and sucking up to Microsoft [18:49] schestowitz-TR that's where the money is [18:49] bnchs__ psydruid, yes that is what i don't like [18:49] schestowitz-TR also in academic [18:49] bnchs__ he feeds microsoft [18:49] psydruid as long as he is doing that stuff he can't do more dangerous things [18:49] matey im confused by the whole thing [18:49] bnchs__ rather than fighting against them [18:49] schestowitz-TR Intel, Mirosoft etc. sponsor the labs [18:49] schestowitz-TR giving them stuff so that they only focus on shitty outdated systems with US back doors [18:49] matey first, he was uncensored-- either by evasion or (it seemed implied by some comment) by the person who runs this website. [18:50] schestowitz-TR they're more like bribes, not gifts [18:50] psydruid I don't want him to touch ARM, RISC-V, m68k, j-core, z80 and other hardware [18:50] matey also, there seems to be a lawsuit. i wasnt sure if the lawsuit is ongoing, but i wouldnt let someone into irc who was presently suing. [18:50] schestowitz-TR matey: SomeH4x0r opposed the mute list [18:50] matey nor would i GO to the irc of someone i was suing [18:50] matey matey: SomeH4x0r opposed the mute list <- yes [18:50] schestowitz-TR so we emptied it, which meant one more person could speak and disrupt like before [18:50] DaemonFC mjg was a bit odd [18:51] DaemonFC WAS? [18:51] matey and then i presume ariadne agreed-- if onyl to prove a point [18:51] DaemonFC Is he taking pills now or something? [18:51] bnchs__ no [18:51] bnchs__ because it's terminal [18:51] schestowitz-TR anyway, back to tech... I shall post some news links [18:51] DaemonFC I need some CaaSS anyway. [18:52] DaemonFC Coffee as a Sleep Substitute. [18:52] MinceR :> [18:52] TR News Sam Altmans Worldcoin Promised Them Free Crypto For An Eyeball Scan. Now They Feel Robbed. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-crypto-eyeball-scanning-orb-problems Source: buzzfeednews [18:52] Alternative link CloudFlare: buzzfeednews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-crypto-eyeball-scanning-orb-problems https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-crypto-eyeball-scanning-orb-problems [18:52] TR Bot Sam Altmans Worldcoin Promised Them Free Crypto For An Eyeball Scan. Now They Feel Robbed. [18:52] matey /me wasnt going to guess coffee, but that works too [18:52] bnchs__ i use uefi [18:52] bnchs__ is that bad? [18:52] DaemonFC UEFI uses you. [18:52] matey and in soviet russia, you dont call it afterwards [18:52] DaemonFC Oh, that reminds me. schestowitz-TR I mention in the draft post about Fedora. [18:53] TR News New: Setting up usteer and band-steering in OpenWrt https://openwrt.org/usteer?rev=1649248566&do=diff [18:53] TR Bot [OpenWrt Wiki] Setting up usteer and band-steering in OpenWrt [18:53] DaemonFC That it nicely shoves all of those UEFI error messages that it vomits out all over the screen underneath the boot splash. [18:53] MinceR usually the braindeadness of uefi is something one can work with, but i wish i didn't need to [18:54] DaemonFC Well, you can turn off some of the poorly debugged security theater code that doesn't even work anyway. [18:54] DaemonFC At least for now, you can. [18:54] matey i have alterered the agreement! pray i dont alter it further [18:54] schestowitz-TR they are NOT eror messages [18:54] schestowitz-TR they are FULFILLMENT messages [18:54] matey theyre cries for help [18:54] schestowitz-TR to PROTECT uoi [18:54] schestowitz-TR *you [18:55] matey "please kill me, i wanted to be a valve on a lotus smart bidet, anything is better than this!" [18:55] matey "intel-me not found or functioning properly" [18:55] matey "please, i really cant stand this anymore, let me die" [18:56] TR News Security updates for Wednesday [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/890404/ Source: LWN | Kernel | Linux [18:56] TR Bot updates for Wednesday [LWN.net] [18:56] matey fedora knew that wouldnt work [18:56] matey this is what splash screens are really for [18:57] matey that and hidin' bodies [18:57] DaemonFC "KILL ME!!!! PLEASE KILL ME!!!! OH MY BABIES! RUN!!! RUN MY CHILDREN!!!!" *cries* [18:57] DaemonFC Rick & Morty (when the wasp Smiths are eating the teacher (who is a larva giving birth). [18:58] matey good lord that show is dark [18:58] DaemonFC Yeah, not only did they ignore his pleas for a mercy killing and keep eating him alive, they ate his babies too. [18:58] MinceR https://www.madmagazine.com/sites/default/files/imce/One-Evening-in-a-Bathtub_52e163d3efe851.76712983.jpg [18:58] DaemonFC Right in front of him. Even left him one eye so he could watch it happen. [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 39.88 k/sec., IPFS upstream 96.35 average k/sec., average swarm size 486.46 [18:59] TR News [ubuntu/jammy-proposed] mesa-amber 21.3.7-0ubuntu1 (Accepted) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/jammy-changes/2022-March/011765.html Source: ubuntu [18:59] Alternative link CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/jammy-changes/2022-March/011765.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/jammy-changes/2022-March/011765.html [18:59] TR Bot [ubuntu/jammy-proposed] mesa-amber 21.3.7-0ubuntu1 (Accepted) [18:59] matey wow [18:59] DaemonFC good lord that show is dark [18:59] schestowitz SomeH4x0r: https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-state-of-robotics-february-march-2022 [18:59] Alternative link CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-state-of-robotics-february-march-2022 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-state-of-robotics-february-march-2022 [18:59] TR Bot State of Robotics February & March 2022 | Ubuntu [18:59] schestowitz see the colours [18:59] DaemonFC "I'm Mr. Meeseks! Look at me!" Rick: "Kill this Nazi son of a bitch!" Meeseks: "CAN DO!!!!!" ● Apr 06 [19:00] bnchs__ "nazi" [19:00] bnchs__ for what purpose? [19:00] bnchs__ i mean for what reason? [19:00] TR News What's going on with Ubuntu? Now they politicise the news about tech with Ukraine flags everywhere https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-state-of-robotics-february-march-2022 [19:00] Alternative link CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-state-of-robotics-february-march-2022 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-state-of-robotics-february-march-2022 [19:00] DaemonFC For some reason almost every universe in Rick's central finite curve had turned into fascist dystopias. [19:01] DaemonFC He kept getting killed and rerouted into a clone vat in another fascist universe. [19:01] bnchs__ no [19:01] bnchs__ why did rick call ??? a nazi? [19:01] TR News Maybe next year Canonical will put flags of Palestine and/or of Israel in release announcements of Ubuntu [19:01] DaemonFC Oh, Nazi Morty. [19:02] DaemonFC The Meeseks killed all of them because it proceeded to strangle him, causing his gun to go off and break the glass, leading them to die in space. [19:02] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:02] matey i knew rick and morty was weird, but i didnt know it was that dark [19:03] matey /me only knows it 2nd-hand [19:03] DaemonFC It's pretty great, yeah. [19:03] matey what network is it on? [19:03] DaemonFC I've seen most of them at least a couple of times. [19:03] DaemonFC Adult Swim [19:03] matey sounds like hollywood pre-code [19:04] bnchs__ i thought it was a dumb shit when i saw something about rick and morty in fortnite [19:04] TR News "Bugs and typos in Linux Bash scripts can do dire things when the script is run. Here are some ways to check the syntax of your scripts before you even run them." GNU Bash, not Linux bash. Linux is a kernel. https://www.howtogeek.com/788955/how-to-validate-the-syntax-of-a-linux-bash-script-before-running-it/ [19:04] TR Bot How To Validate the Syntax of a Linux Bash Script Before Running It [19:06] DaemonFC There we go. Now it's using Wireguard. [19:06] matey why are wireguard? [19:07] TR News GitLab should have embraced RockyLinux. AlmaLinux is licking the army boosts of criminals from Microsoft. https://linuxiac.com/gitlab-switched-from-centos-8-to-almalinux/ [19:07] Alternative link CloudFlare: linuxiac.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxiac.com/gitlab-switched-from-centos-8-to-almalinux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxiac.com/gitlab-switched-from-centos-8-to-almalinux/ [19:07] TR Bot GitLab Switched from Centos 8 to AlmaLinux as a Supported Platform [19:08] TR News "The Linux gaming world moves FAST. Since my last guide about installing the "glorious" custom version of Valve's Proton, things have become MUCH easier." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7eyUrL2JS9Q [19:08] TR Bot How To Install GE-Proton in 2022 | Works on Linux Distros + Steam Deck! - Invidious [19:08] TR News Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 alpha 6

Read more [19:08] TR Bot Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 alpha 6 [19:09] TR News Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 alpha 6 https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-alpha-6 Source: godotengine [19:09] Alternative link CloudFlare: godotengine.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-alpha-6 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-alpha-6 [19:09] TR News Emacs 28.1 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163425 [19:09] TR Bot Emacs 28.1 released | Tux Machines [19:11] DaemonFC why are wireguard? [19:11] matey meaning what for [19:11] DaemonFC It's a lighter protocol than OpenVPN and it's in the kernel. [19:11] matey oh alright [19:11] TR News INNOTECH reveals the AX-1020 Atom x6000E Elkhart Lake SBC https://linuxgizmos.com/innotech-reveals-the-ax-1020-atom-x6000e-elkhart-lake-sbc/ They've chosen back-doored chips [19:11] Alternative link CloudFlare: linuxgizmos.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/innotech-reveals-the-ax-1020-atom-x6000e-elkhart-lake-sbc/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxgizmos.com/innotech-reveals-the-ax-1020-atom-x6000e-elkhart-lake-sbc/ [19:11] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/innotech-reveals-the-ax-1020-atom-x6000e-elkhart-lake-sbc/ ) [19:11] matey faster too? [19:11] DaemonFC So no reason to lug something complicated around when 4,000 lines of code that anyone can audit for bugs will do. [19:12] DaemonFC Yeah, it can be. BitTorrent is slower than your regular connection either way, by a lot. [19:12] matey of course [19:12] TR News Everything is being rebranded "clown" now... https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/innovation-and-flexibility-open-design-approach-cloud-ran-and-access-networks [19:12] TR Bot Innovation and flexibility in an open design approach to Cloud RAN and access networks [19:12] DaemonFC But for direct downloading, browsing, etc..... Wireguard does have better throughput. [19:12] matey hmm [19:12] schestowitz-TR rianne installed and uses wineguard [19:12] DaemonFC The main advantage though is just being standardized, as in you get what's in the kernel and there's not much your VPN provider can do to fuck it up with some bogus implementation on the client side. [19:13] matey we hope [19:13] DaemonFC And it's less resource-heavy than OpenVPN is. [19:13] schestowitz-TR it's probably easy in linux, like kvm... [19:13] schestowitz-TR if it's light enough, linus will slip it into linux [19:13] matey and if its not, then greg will [19:13] DaemonFC Wireguard has been in the kernel for ages now. [19:13] DaemonFC Torvalds called OpenVPN a "horror". [19:14] MinceR on what basis? [19:14] MinceR and when? [19:14] DaemonFC It is. It's very complicated. There's so many ways you can set it up wrong. [19:14] matey of course torvalds is scared of a little floppy drive driver [19:14] MinceR and how is throwing it into the kernel better? [19:14] MinceR ah, yes, a floppy driver in the kernel is scary [19:14] schestowitz-TR we recently moved a client from openvpn to wireguard. They had been paying thousands per year to some firm... for openvpn "support" [19:14] DaemonFC Your VPN provider can also insist that you use some old and broken OpenVPN client that they cobbled together with shitty patches of their own. [19:14] MinceR an smb server and a vpn implementation aren't scary [19:14] MinceR interesting how that works [19:14] DaemonFC Then you don't know what you have. [19:15] matey MinceR: i dont have any issue with them disabling it by default [19:15] matey i dont understand why they couldnt just make it so you had to load it manually after booting. [19:15] DaemonFC I used to use NetworkManager-OpenVPN with PIA. [19:15] DaemonFC But that's risky too, because there's no internet killswitch. [19:15] matey or with a kernel option, for obvious reasons [19:15] DaemonFC So if the VPN goes down, they could see what you're doing and you may not be able to stop the traffic in time. [19:16] DaemonFC I switched from PIA to NordVPN last year because PIA had gotten miserably slow. [19:16] matey So if the VPN goes down, they could see what you're doing <- why wouldnt it just route to a closed port? [19:16] MinceR booting from floppy might be a bit difficult that way [19:16] matey booting from floppy might be a bit difficult that way <- this is why i added the part about the kernel option [19:16] DaemonFC Most of the complaints about NordVPN are that their Windows and Mac clients pop up spam and junk and nonsense about their other products. [19:16] matey like "toram" [19:16] DaemonFC But the Linux client doesn't do that. [19:16] matey then the bootloader on the floppy calls the kernel with the floppy driver optino. [19:17] matey no kernel option, no driver loaded. [19:17] MinceR or they could focus on making their floppy driver mature instead of tossing random microsoftesque junk after random microsoftesque junk into the kernel [19:17] matey why this wasnt good enough? probably some bullshit we werent told about [19:18] matey or they could focus on making their floppy driver mature instead of tossing random microsoftesque junk after random microsoftesque junk into the kernel <- i was trying to be more realistic :) [19:18] MinceR but who cares, i'll probably have to maintain my own kernel if i want a sane kernel [19:18] matey s/probably// [19:20] matey imo just keep looking until you find a kernel that works for you. i dont think it will be linux [19:21] MinceR it could be a fork of Linux from before Torvalds was blackmailed or something [19:21] MinceR but it would be a herculean effort [19:21] matey `it could [19:21] MinceR so hopefully one of the BSDs will suffice instead [19:21] matey but i dont think anyone will work on that [19:21] MinceR yeah [19:21] matey i had a breaker go out a couple times recently [19:21] matey it wouldnt boot without manually running fsck_ffs [19:21] matey first time it fixed it automatically [19:21] matey second time i had to do it manually [19:22] matey but i didnt have to do anything else [19:22] matey and it dropped right to single user telling me to run fsck_ffs [19:22] matey i didnt even have to look up anything online [19:22] matey (other machine has a while before it loses power) [19:22] matey (so it just kept running) [19:23] matey but i finally know what it does when its not unmounted properly-- very similar to gnu/linux a few years back [19:23] matey as a plus, it still shuts down when i ask it to [19:25] matey gnu/linux: tells you to run fsck [19:25] matey openbsd: tells you RUN FSCK FFS! [19:25] matey /me can hear theo saying it [19:25] MinceR breaker? [19:25] matey power box, formerly fuse box [19:26] schestowitz-TR RUN GCC [19:26] MinceR oh, i thought you meant running an OS on a breaker [19:26] matey oh no no [19:26] matey that would be interesting [19:26] matey "is this distro powerful enough?" [19:26] matey "lick it and find out!" [19:26] DaemonFC Okay, I got my desk fan for the modem to sit on. [19:26] DaemonFC Looks ridiculous, but hey. As long as the modem doesn't crash. [19:26] matey just tell them you overclocked it [19:27] DaemonFC My brother did something worse with his xbox 360. [19:27] *matey has quit (connection closed) [19:27] TR News When Qt says "Commercial" is actually means proprietary https://www.qt.io/blog/commercial-lts-qt-5.15.9-released [19:27] Alternative link CloudFlare: qt.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.qt.io/blog/commercial-lts-qt-5.15.9-released https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.qt.io/blog/commercial-lts-qt-5.15.9-released [19:27] TR Bot Commercial LTS Qt 5.15.9 Released [19:27] DaemonFC Mom came in and asked why he had the air conditioner on in January and he said because his xbox 360 kept overheating and he had to put it next to the air conditioner so it would keep working. [19:28] TR News Reset your Canon printers maintenance cartridge with this hack | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/06/reset-your-canon-printers-maintenance-cartridge-with-this-hack/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking [19:28] Alternative link CloudFlare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/06/reset-your-canon-printers-maintenance-cartridge-with-this-hack/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/06/reset-your-canon-printers-maintenance-cartridge-with-this-hack/ [19:28] TR Bot Reset your Canon printer's maintenance cartridge with this hack | Arduino Blog [19:28] DaemonFC At least this thing's just blowing room air through the modem to keep it from reachin 114 degrees! [19:28] bnchs__ did you know [19:29] bnchs__ a LG smart tv can easily be cracked [19:29] bnchs__ by just visiting a website [19:29] TR News APIs: The Building Blocks of Modern Software Development https://www.itprotoday.com/development-techniques-and-management/why-apis-are-foundation-modern-software-development Source: itprotoday (dodging discussion about software freedom) [19:29] Alternative link CloudFlare: itprotoday.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.itprotoday.com/development-techniques-and-management/why-apis-are-foundation-modern-software-development https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.itprotoday.com/development-techniques-and-management/why-apis-are-foundation-modern-software-development [19:29] TR Bot APIs: The Building Blocks of Modern Software Development | ITPro Today: IT News, How-Tos, Trends, Case Studies, Career Tips, More [19:30] DaemonFC Why would you visit a website on your TV? [19:30] bnchs__ here's the thing [19:30] DaemonFC I used to do it on my Dreamcast once in a while. [19:30] bnchs__ LG smart webos tv whatever [19:30] bnchs__ it has a web browser [19:31] bnchs__ and one of the things they left exposed [19:31] bnchs__ was their SSAP server [19:31] TR News "Wind River is proud to announce a new member of the commercially supported Wind River GNU/Linux family, Wind River GNU/Linux Distro. Distro is a binary GNU/Linux distribution created from our source codebased GNU/Linux product." https://blogs.windriver.com/wind_river_blog/2022/04/introducing-the-wind-river-linux-binary-distro/ [19:31] Alternative link CloudFlare: windriver.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blogs.windriver.com/wind_river_blog/2022/04/introducing-the-wind-river-linux-binary-distro/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blogs.windriver.com/wind_river_blog/2022/04/introducing-the-wind-river-linux-binary-distro/ [19:31] DaemonFC Back when NOBODY had TWO computers in the house, and also people were in the family room, so no looking at porn there. [19:31] TR Bot Introducing the Wind River Linux Binary Distribution [19:31] bnchs__ so basically [19:31] DaemonFC Yep, good old Planetweb browser, bringing in those JPEGs. [19:31] bnchs__ you could inject a rootkit [19:31] DaemonFC CHUNK CHUNK CHUNK. [19:31] bnchs__ just by visiting a website [19:32] DaemonFC Oh that's nothing special really. Internet Explorer did it all the time. [19:32] DaemonFC It was so bad the US government had to put out a warning to quit using it. [19:33] DaemonFC At the time I so made fun of that. I posted screenshots of my Windows 98 build stripped clean of all of that junk and my two Linux systems. [19:33] DaemonFC "Can't switch from Internet Explorer when there is no Internet Explorer!" B-) [19:34] DaemonFC Flatpaks actually make the LEAST sense on a distribution like Fedora. [19:34] DaemonFC You're never using software more than 6-12 months old anyway, AND they package newer builds as RPMs anyway. [19:35] DaemonFC So basically the only thing they do not touch is the version of GNOME that shipped in that release, except for point updates. [19:35] DaemonFC Also, the compiler toolchain and glibc and stuff. [19:35] DaemonFC Basically, like the tools used to build the system and GNOME don't change except for point updates, and most anything else rolls. [19:36] DaemonFC I guess I would have been just as well off with OpenSUSE Tumbleweed except that I had a very bad experience with OpenSUSE while Novell owned it. [19:36] bnchs__ yeah but it's bad like now [19:36] bnchs__ right now [19:36] DaemonFC It was virtually impossible to set up without breaking it right away. [19:36] bnchs__ you can actually root your LG webos TV just by going to https://rootmy.tv/ [19:36] Alternative link CloudFlare: rootmy.tv | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://rootmy.tv/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://rootmy.tv/ [19:36] TR Bot RootMyTV - Stage 1 [19:37] TR News http [19:37] bnchs__ and sliding that "slide to root" (reminds me of that iphone jailbreak) [19:37] DaemonFC So don't do that! [19:37] bnchs__ DaemonFC: i already did [19:37] DaemonFC Giving your TV an internet connection. Mistake #1. [19:37] bnchs__ DaemonFC: i didn't give it an internet connection [19:37] bnchs__ my dad did [19:37] TR News Sigil is a free, open-source eBook and ePUB editor for Windows, Linux, and macOS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163426 [19:37] TR Bot Sigil is a free, open-source eBook and ePUB editor for Windows, Linux, and macOS | Tux Machines [19:37] bnchs__ but might aswell root it [19:37] DaemonFC Mine has an HDMI connection so I can drag Celluloid over to the TV and play stuff on it. [19:38] DaemonFC So I guess that's TECHNICALLY streaming? [19:38] TR News Antmicro releases open-source hardware Snapdragon 845 baseboard designed with KiCad - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/06/antmicro-open-source-hardware-snapdragon-845-baseboard-designed-with-kicad/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware [19:38] Alternative link CloudFlare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/06/antmicro-open-source-hardware-snapdragon-845-baseboard-designed-with-kicad/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/06/antmicro-open-source-hardware-snapdragon-845-baseboard-designed-with-kicad/ [19:38] TR Bot Antmicro releases open-source hardware Snapdragon 845 baseboard designed with KiCad - CNX Software [19:39] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, You'll be happy to know that Mozilla changed Firefox again. [19:39] DaemonFC It no longer has privileged web process, it has isolated web container. [19:40] TR News GNU, not Linux https://www.fosslinux.com/52963/what-is-bash-shell-and-know-its-importance-in-linux.htm [19:40] Alternative link CloudFlare: fosslinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fosslinux.com/52963/what-is-bash-shell-and-know-its-importance-in-linux.htm https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.fosslinux.com/52963/what-is-bash-shell-and-know-its-importance-in-linux.htm [19:40] TR Bot What is Bash shell, and know its importance in Linux | FOSS Linux [19:41] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: woohoo [19:41] bnchs__ know its importance in Linux [19:41] schestowitz-TR another bonus to the CEO [19:41] bnchs__ Bash shell is very important to Linux [19:41] bnchs__ like a shell is important to a kernel [19:41] schestowitz-TR mozilla firefox pollutes the system with many proceses [19:41] schestowitz-TR beyond one per tab [19:41] schestowitz-TR librewold does not correct this [19:41] schestowitz-TR it just changes the name of these processes [19:42] schestowitz-TR bnchs__: linux is not a kernel [19:42] schestowitz-TR it's "OS" [19:42] DaemonFC Oh that's another thing. [19:42] DaemonFC I want to replace bash with fish. [19:42] schestowitz-TR dolphin is now a file manager [19:42] DaemonFC Thanks for reminding me. [19:42] schestowitz-TR solphin is a file system! [19:42] bnchs__ DaemonFC: how do you seperate linux from its lover [19:42] bnchs__ and replace it with another one [19:42] bnchs__ now it wont work [19:43] bnchs__ you must know its importance in Linux [19:43] DaemonFC Well, once tuna went dolphin safe, the dolphins had to go get jobs. They coasted on being an endangered species for long enough. Free ride's over. Time to be a file manager. [19:43] schestowitz-TR albert@fish # [19:43] DaemonFC There's no shame in being a file manager you know. It's posh. [19:44] schestowitz-TR my job is manager [19:44] DaemonFC My grandfather dug ditches for a living when he had to, even when the man from the finance company was repossessing his car. [19:44] schestowitz-TR what do you manage? [19:44] schestowitz-TR lots of files [19:44] schestowitz-TR "I manage the bins" [19:44] schestowitz-TR I'm a manager [19:44] schestowitz-TR of a coffee machine [19:44] schestowitz-TR "I manage the cups" [19:45] schestowitz-TR janitors are managers [19:45] schestowitz-TR they manage the dust and stuff [19:45] schestowitz-TR epstein was also a manager [19:45] schestowitz-TR he was managing many rich people [19:45] DaemonFC GNOME 42 isn't that bad I suppose. Now, my favorite part is they FINALLY did a dock at the bottom of the screen. [19:45] DaemonFC Where the damned thing is supposed to be. [19:45] schestowitz-TR he was their "agent" [19:46] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I suppose the "windows" button actually makes sense on GNOME outside the context of Windows the OS. [19:46] DaemonFC If you press it, it cascades all the open windows and brings up the dock and the virtual desktops. [19:47] DaemonFC So it pretty much does exactly what someone would expect the key to do even if it wasn't the Windows logo. [19:47] DaemonFC This mess with libadwaita will settle down eventually. [19:48] DaemonFC There will be gripes from users, there will be more gripes from developers going "well it always worked until you did THAT". [19:48] DaemonFC But in a release or two, I doubt anyone will remember the dust up it caused. [19:49] DaemonFC In the end, you shouldn't have to go to a Tweaks tool that's a collection of band-aids for bad GUI design. [19:49] DaemonFC It's nice to see that Tweaks is becoming less and less while the stuff that matters gets moved over to where people will find it. [19:49] DaemonFC Should have happened years ago. This never should have gone on this long. [19:50] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I have quite the sticker collection on my old laptop. [19:51] DaemonFC Fedora, GNU, GNOME, Linux, various odds and ends including a bunch I got at the zen garden in Rockford. [19:51] DaemonFC That battery I got off Amazon has held up incredibly well too. Better than the one that came from Lenovo. [19:55] bnchs__ zoomers remember: pull requests [19:56] bnchs__ boomers remember: sending patches in mailing lists [19:58] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/820373.jpg [19:58] Alternative link CloudFlare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/820373.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/820373.jpg [19:59] bnchs__ MinceR: like that blender logo in thrid [19:59] bnchs__ third* ● Apr 06 [20:00] bnchs__ i mean fourth [20:00] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:30] *bnchs (~bnchs@pf6rsq3s4cde8.irc) has joined #techrights [20:31] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:37] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@d2ic8w3qk7n26.irc) has joined #techrights [20:38] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npnjIixWeVQ [20:38] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=npnjIixWeVQ [20:38] TR Bot yewtu.be | Tabby cat who came to me by meowing when she saw me is so affectionate - Invidious [20:45] DaemonFC I'm looking at cars again. [20:45] DaemonFC Right now I'm looking at used police cars. [20:45] MinceR crown vic? [20:45] DaemonFC I've kind of been wanting another Crown Victoria, yeah. :) [20:46] DaemonFC They're fun. [20:46] MinceR :> [20:46] DaemonFC They're a lot faster than a Chevy Impala and they get about the same awful gas mileage, so that's a wash. [20:46] DaemonFC But they're durable, and super cheap to repair. [20:46] DaemonFC You get to pick your poison. [20:47] DaemonFC A gas guzzler that holds up and is cheap and easy to fix. [20:47] DaemonFC Or something newer that costs more money and saves a little gas, but is harder to work on, so more expensive. [20:48] DaemonFC MinceR, Found a 2011 with 80,000 miles for $7,999 at the local used car stealership. [20:49] DaemonFC Most of the later ones were fleet and so they almost always end up on these types of lot. Not private party. [20:50] DaemonFC Stupid government gas mileage mandates. Didn't save any fuel. [20:51] DaemonFC Just pushed everyone to buy killer SUVs and "pick up trucks" with about 4 inch long beds because those weren't regulated as cars. [20:51] DaemonFC So now when you get in a crash, it's with one of those assholes. [20:52] MinceR presumably not maintaining the roads isn't helping either [20:52] DaemonFC Nope. [20:52] DaemonFC You're guaranteed to hit three potholes every day here. [20:56] DaemonFC Ohhh, a 2007 detective model. [20:56] DaemonFC Nicer interior, red..... $1,000 less than the 2011. [20:56] DaemonFC No rust. Looks like they took care of it. [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.78 k/sec., IPFS upstream 74.80 average k/sec., average swarm size 302.18 ● Apr 06 [21:10] DaemonFC https://www.yourchoiceautos.com/details/used-2004-mercury-grand-marquis/79761282 [21:10] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.yourchoiceautos.com/details/used-2004-mercury-grand-marquis/79761282 ) [21:10] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [21:10] DaemonFC They said they still have it. I'm going over tomorrow to look at it and to take it to my mechanic to have them look it over real good. [21:11] DaemonFC If my mechanic says it's good, I'm in for $4,000. What the hell? [21:11] DaemonFC That thing looks SHARP. [21:11] MinceR it does? [21:11] DaemonFC Yep yep. [21:11] immibis DaemonFC: have you ever considered improving the world [21:12] DaemonFC Eh, I help those who help themselves. [21:12] DaemonFC I help myself, so I help me all the time. [21:12] DaemonFC :) [21:16] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/820350.jpg [21:16] Alternative link CloudFlare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/820350.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/820350.jpg [21:20] immibis DaemonFC: meanwhile shitting on literally everyone else [21:21] immibis everyone in a position worse than yours is their because they're dumb incompetent lazy idiots [21:21] immibis everyone in a position better than yours is cheating [21:21] immibis stop being so negative and do something useful for once [21:31] *phebus has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:31] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@yxiyc8mauwsbs.irc) has joined #techrights [21:31] DaemonFC Someone with billions of dollars probably did do something nasty. [21:32] DaemonFC Of course, keeping hold of that much money is nasty in and of itself. [21:32] *phebus (~phebus@f95gnd3zj7732.irc) has joined #techrights [21:33] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:43] TR News Linux Mint 21 Code Name Announced with New Upgrade Utility and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163427 [21:43] TR Bot Linux Mint 21 Code Name Announced with New Upgrade Utility and More | Tux Machines [21:43] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163428 [21:43] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:44] TR News Linux Mint 21 is named 'Vanessa' http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163423#comment-33291 [21:44] TR Bot Linux Mint 21 Vanessa Will Be Based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, New Upgrade Tool in the Works | Tux Machines [21:49] immibis in LWN comments people were complaining about SUSE's new CoC allowing discrimination based on ideology [21:49] immibis DaemonFC: if you don't want them to act nasty to people below them, maybe you shouldn't act nasty to people below you [21:51] TR News The Automation Myth gemini://beyondneolithic.life/articles/the_automation_myth.gmi [21:52] TR News GNU Bash in GNU/Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163429 [21:52] TR Bot GNU Bash in GNU/Linux | Tux Machines [21:52] TR News RE: Lightweight GUIs, TUIs gemini://iveqy.com/gemlog/2022-04-06_re_lightweight_guis_tuis.gmi "I installed linux, Red Hat 5.2 and was happy, until I upgraded to Fedora and my computer got painful slow again!" [21:53] TR News "This project will of course be open-source in the future, but as this is still completely unusable (I have just started on the project yesterday), this will have to wait a little bit. " gemini://blog.schmidhuberj.de/2022/04/06/another-new-project/ [21:54] TR News "On a previous gemlog, I described how I prefer to use my electronics device in a greyscale (desaturated) mode for accessibility and anti-doomscrolling reasons, as colour processing is nontrivial." gemini://rosenzweig.io/gemlog/2022-04-06-update-a-smol-kernel-hack.gmi [21:55] TR News "We can introduce people to the topic via FOSS frontends for existing platforms, such as NewPipe for YouTube and Nitter for Twitter." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202204/20220406-economic-woes-and-foss.gmi [21:56] schestowitz-TR immibis: I saw all those comments [21:56] schestowitz-TR they wete not unreasonable [21:56] schestowitz-TR *were [21:58] TR News When your 'browser' is about 30 million lines of code https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/06/mozilla-releases-security-updates-firefox-firefox-esr-and [21:58] TR Bot Mozilla Releases Security Updates for Firefox, Firefox ESR, and Thunderbird | CISA [21:59] TR News ProprietarySoftware = Garbage. https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/06/citrix-releases-security-updates-hypervisor "An attacker could exploit this vulnerability to cause a denial-of-service condition." [21:59] TR Bot Citrix Releases Security Updates for Hypervisor | CISA ● Apr 06 [22:00] TR News Also: when your 'browser' is over 30 million lines of code: "This version addresses vulnerabilities that an attacker could exploit to take control of an affected system." https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/06/google-releases-security-updates-chrome [22:00] TR Bot Google Releases Security Updates for Chrome | CISA [22:00] *psydruid supports the ideology of pastafarianism [22:02] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:03] TR News Indias Criminal Procedure (Identification) Bill jeopardizes privacy it must not be enforced - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/indias-criminal-procedure-identification-bill-jeopardizes-privacy/ Source: accessnow [22:03] Alternative link CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/indias-criminal-procedure-identification-bill-jeopardizes-privacy/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/indias-criminal-procedure-identification-bill-jeopardizes-privacy/ [22:03] TR Bot Indias Criminal Procedure (Identification) Bill jeopardizes privacy it must not be enforced - Access Now [22:03] schestowitz-TR psydruid: don't chu fart in ma paste [22:03] schestowitz-TR *pasta [22:04] TR News Phoronix still jumping the shark for AMD marketing. I'm quickly losing interest in anything the site has to show, even links it has in it... [22:06] TR News Microsoft's shill is still promoting proprietary nonsense. https://tirania.org/blog/archive/2022/Apr-06.html see http://techrights.org/2022/03/05/miguel-quits-or-pushed-out/ [22:06] Alternative link CloudFlare: tirania.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tirania.org/blog/archive/2022/Apr-06.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://tirania.org/blog/archive/2022/Apr-06.html [22:06] TR Bot - Miguel de Icaza [22:06] TR Bot Miguel de Icaza may be gone, but the walls and bars of proprietary software he helped create remain, for now. Dismantling them is up to us. | Techrights [22:06] TR News Download and Test Inkscape 1.2 Beta Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163430 [22:06] TR Bot Download and Test Inkscape 1.2 Beta | Tux Machines [22:07] TR News Planet GNONE: Microsoft employees. Criminal company OK, just don't unset the precious CoC (compatible with crimes). [22:07] MinceR g-none, nice [22:07] schestowitz-TR lol [22:07] DaemonFC People tend to go where the money is at. [22:08] DaemonFC You can hardly blame them for doing the job, but actually liking the fact that they cause harm.....something else. [22:08] MinceR (audio:music) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/820246.mp4 [22:08] Alternative link CloudFlare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/v/820246.mp4 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://hugelolcdn.com/v/820246.mp4 [22:08] TR News A Vanishing Nova: *Uranographia Britannica* (ca. 1749) The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/bevis-uranographia/ Source: publicdomainreview [22:08] TR Bot A Vanishing Nova: *Uranographia Britannica* (ca. 1749) The Public Domain Review [22:11] TR News "According to For, she and Blaede quickly hammered out a handshake agreement." https://fossforce.com/2022/04/elementary-os-faces-uncertain-future-after-co-founder-split/ [22:11] TR Bot Elementary OS Faces Uncertain Future After Co-Founder Split - FOSS Force [22:11] immibis schestowitz-TR: I am not worried that ideologies like Nazism are discriminated against. I am worried that people think it's bad to discriminate against any ideologies, including Nazism. [22:11] TR News Regulatory Competition: Where the UK Stands on Tech - Disruptive Competition Project https://www.project-disco.org/competition/040622-regulatory-competition-where-the-uk-stands-on-tech/ Source: project disco [22:11] TR Bot Regulatory Competition: Where the UK Stands on Tech - Disruptive Competition Project [22:11] Alternative link CloudFlare: project-disco.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.project-disco.org/competition/040622-regulatory-competition-where-the-uk-stands-on-tech/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.project-disco.org/competition/040622-regulatory-competition-where-the-uk-stands-on-tech/ [22:11] immibis The main reason someone would think it's bad to discriminate against Nazism, is that they're a Nazi. [22:13] schestowitz-TR immibis: that's taking the more extreme/edge casde [22:13] schestowitz-TR *case ... the nazi straw man has been widely used to sell online censorship [22:14] schestowitz-TR even when it had nothing to do with nazism [22:15] TR News Mozilla entering politics again. Ukraine and Russia. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/mozilla-explains/cyberattack-meaning-russia-ukraine/ Source: Mozilla | WWW | FreeSW | Firefox | Internet [22:15] Alternative link CloudFlare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/mozilla-explains/cyberattack-meaning-russia-ukraine/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/mozilla-explains/cyberattack-meaning-russia-ukraine/ [22:15] TR Bot What is a cyberattack and what can we do to protect ourselves online? [22:16] TR News "Short for malicious software, malware generally refers to any program designed to take harmful actions against a computer system or network." Sounds like today's Mozilla Firefox https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/cyberattacks-glossary-of-terms-ransomware-ddos/ Source: Mozilla | WWW | FreeSW | Firefox | Internet [22:16] Alternative link CloudFlare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/cyberattacks-glossary-of-terms-ransomware-ddos/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/cyberattacks-glossary-of-terms-ransomware-ddos/ [22:16] TR Bot A glossary of terms about cyberattacks, from ransomware to DDoS [22:18] TR News 7 of the Best USENET Newsgroups Still Active Today - Make Tech Easier https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-usenet-newsgroups/ Source: maketecheasier (WTF is with this photo? Man with Apple PC wearing shades in the dark???) [22:18] TR Bot 7 of the Best USENET Newsgroups Still Active Today - Make Tech Easier [22:19] TR News "Apparently, in some parts of this world, the /usr/-merge transition is still ongoing. Let's take the opportunity to have a look at one specific way to take benefit of the /usr/-merge (and associated work) IRL." MinceR https://0pointer.net/blog/running-an-container-off-the-host-usr.html [22:19] TR Bot Running a Container off the Host /usr/ [22:20] MinceR no thanks [22:20] schestowitz-TR last chance! [22:20] schestowitz-TR going eins! [22:20] bnchs__ i wanna know [22:21] bnchs__ i always thought usenet required a seperate line from the internet [22:21] bnchs__ or am i wrong? [22:21] schestowitz-TR line? [22:21] schestowitz-TR like bbs? [22:22] bnchs__ there is still BBS servers out there [22:22] bnchs__ like telnet servers (oldass insecure) [22:22] bnchs__ or SSH server (secure) [22:22] schestowitz-TR in 2020 I looked into running bbs [22:22] schestowitz-TR but it turned out to be useless for us [22:23] TR News "Automotive Grade Linux (AGL), a collaborative cross-industry effort developing an open source platform for all connected car technologies, announces IndyKite, Marelli and Red Hat as new Bronze members." https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/indykite-marelli-and-red-hat-join-automotive-grade-linux-301519317.html [22:23] Alternative link CloudFlare: prnewswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/indykite-marelli-and-red-hat-join-automotive-grade-linux-301519317.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/indykite-marelli-and-red-hat-join-automotive-grade-linux-301519317.html [22:23] TR Bot IndyKite, Marelli and Red Hat Join Automotive Grade Linux [22:23] bnchs__ heh, techrights BBS site [22:24] TR News [Those should run Free software only, otherwise you harm them] Public Knowledge Urges Congress To Pass Bill Providing Veterans, Students With Refurbished Computers - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-urges-congress-to-pass-bill-providing-veterans-students-with-refurbished-computers/ Source: publicknowledge [22:24] TR Bot Public Knowledge Urges Congress To Pass Bill Providing Veterans, Students With Refurbished Computers - Public Knowledge [22:25] schestowitz-TR bnchs__: we already have the whole site as text and gemtext [22:25] bnchs__ well thats good [22:25] TR News New Steam Games with Native Linux Clients - 2022-04-05 Edition - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/new-steam-games-with-native-linux-clients-2022-04-05-edition/ Source: boilingsteam [22:25] TR Bot New Steam Games with Native Linux Clients - 2022-04-05 Edition - Boiling Steam [22:27] TR News Joystick with Arduino: How to Interface with Code Explained

Read more [22:27] TR Bot Joystick with Arduino: How to Interface with Code Explained [22:27] TR News Joystick with Arduino: How to Interface with Code Explained https://peppe8o.com/joystick-with-arduino-how-to-interface-with-code-explained/ Source: peppe8o [22:27] Alternative link CloudFlare: peppe8o.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://peppe8o.com/joystick-with-arduino-how-to-interface-with-code-explained/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://peppe8o.com/joystick-with-arduino-how-to-interface-with-code-explained/ [22:30] DaemonFC I'm definitely going to look at some Panther platform cars tomorrow. Getting rid of my 96 was one of the worst mistakes I've ever made. [22:32] TR News The ordering operators | Aristotle [blogs.perl.org] http://blogs.perl.org/users/aristotle/2022/04/ordering-ops.html Source: perl [22:32] TR Bot ordering operators | Aristotle [blogs.perl.org] [22:33] TR News [Too US-centric] Free Cybersecurity Resources for Protecting Your Organization https://www.fosslife.org/free-cybersecurity-resources-protecting-your-organization Source: fosslife [22:33] TR Bot Free Cybersecurity Resources for Protecting Your Organization [22:36] TR News WeasyPrint converts any HTML webpage into a rich PDF document https://medevel.com/weasyprint/ needs to delete proprietary software GitHub, controlled by Microsoft (criminals) and NSA [22:36] Alternative link CloudFlare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/weasyprint/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/weasyprint/ [22:36] TR Bot WeasyPrint converts any HTML webpage into a rich PDF document [22:37] TR News Atom: Access to Memory. The Web Catalog Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163431 [22:37] TR Bot Atom: Access to Memory. The Web Catalog | Tux Machines [22:37] TR News "In this video, I am going to show how to install deepin 20.5." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OQ_wYk5iRpM [22:37] TR Bot How to install deepin 20.5. - Invidious [22:38] TR News How to Install Latest Firefox as classic Deb in Ubuntu 22.04 | UbuntuHandbook https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/04/install-firefox-deb-ubuntu-22-04/ Source: UbuntuHandbook | FreeSW | GNU | Linux [22:38] Alternative link CloudFlare: ubuntuhandbook.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/04/install-firefox-deb-ubuntu-22-04/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/04/install-firefox-deb-ubuntu-22-04/ [22:38] TR Bot How to Install Latest Firefox as classic Deb in Ubuntu 22.04 | UbuntuHandbook [22:47] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163432 [22:47] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [22:47] TR News Open Hardware/Modding: Arduino and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163433 [22:47] TR Bot Open Hardware/Modding: Arduino and More | Tux Machines [22:47] TR News Introducing the Wind River Linux Binary Distribution Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163434 [22:47] TR Bot Introducing the Wind River Linux Binary Distribution | Tux Machines [22:49] TR News Deadliest COVID-19 day in the UK since 2019. About 3,000 deaths. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/06/data-issue/ [22:49] TR Bot Blog Archive Over 20,000 COVID-19 Patients in British Hospitals, NHS Reports It Has DATA ISSUE and 2,714 Deaths [...] Added Retrospectively on 6 April 2022 [22:51] TR News Games: GOG, Steam, and Godot Engine Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163435 [22:51] TR Bot Games: GOG, Steam, and Godot Engine | Tux Machines [22:55] TR News 66.6% of that is Microsoft https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog [22:55] TR Bot Known Exploited Vulnerabilities Catalog | CISA [22:55] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/06/cisa-adds-three-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog http://techrights.org/2022/04/04/lies-infiltration-and-nsa/ [22:55] TR Bot CISA Adds Three Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISA [22:55] TR Bot Lies, Infiltration, and the National Security Agency | Techrights [22:56] TR News CUPS and Raspberry Pi AirPrinting Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163436 [22:56] TR Bot CUPS and Raspberry Pi AirPrinting | Tux Machines [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 36.46 k/sec., IPFS upstream 32.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 353.78 ● Apr 06 [23:00] TR News Soy can be soy drink (if processed) or milk substitute, but never call it soy milk as it's basically a marketing lie/sham. [23:01] schestowitz psydruid: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-MWAIT-Over-HALT-2022 [23:01] Alternative link CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-MWAIT-Over-HALT-2022 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-MWAIT-Over-HALT-2022 [23:01] TR Bot Patch To Use MWAIT Instead Of HALT For Certain Cases Yield A ~21% Improvement - Phoronix [23:01] schestowitz AMD changed some lines of code [23:02] schestowitz their PR guys is on the case [23:02] schestowitz obv. it's major news [23:02] schestowitz it's not like code is committed to Linux every day [23:02] schestowitz by multiple companies [23:02] schestowitz I've seen enough to spot the bias [23:02] schestowitz some days 1/3 articles there is AMD [23:02] schestowitz which is still a relatively small company [23:02] schestowitz 6-7 times fewer heads than Intel [23:03] psydruid is it doing anything for the company, though? [23:04] TR News Webspam disguised as "deals"; Laura Tucker and this site are mostly spam. No disclosure. A lot of the Web became like that. https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/logitech-mk570-wireless-wave-keyboard-and-mouse-combo/ [23:04] TR Bot Save $10 on a Logitech MK570 Wireless Wave Keyboard and Mouse Combo - Make Tech Easier [23:04] psydruid I'm glad I haven't bought any of their hardware since 2009 [23:04] schestowitz-TR psydruid: yes, it helps AMD [23:04] schestowitz-TR but michael had a huge fan in me [23:04] schestowitz-TR and he's throwing it away [23:04] schestowitz-TR I just cannot support his site anymore [23:05] schestowitz-TR it's like a marketing operation [23:05] psydruid I'm a fan of no one [23:05] schestowitz-TR like I said to him [23:05] schestowitz-TR 1-2 processors? FINE. [23:05] schestowitz-TR I GET that. [23:05] schestowitz-TR but he went way too far. [23:05] schestowitz-TR psydruid: he works super-hard [23:05] schestowitz-TR 100+ hours a week [23:06] schestowitz-TR about 10 'articles' a day [23:06] schestowitz-TR but some of them are like ads [23:06] schestowitz-TR and his site ads were already getting annoying [23:06] schestowitz-TR but I thought, OK... well, if that's a source of inecome [23:06] psydruid I haven't read much there recently [23:06] schestowitz-TR but when the "content" beomes ads, GOOD. BYE! [23:06] schestowitz-TR OK, let me walkyou through [23:07] psydruid as the articles aren't relevant to me anymore [23:07] schestowitz http://schestowitz.com/RSS/ [23:07] TR Bot ( status 401 @ http://schestowitz.com/RSS/ ) [23:07] schestowitz-TR wrong URL [23:07] schestowitz-TR that's mine, personal [23:07] schestowitz http://phoronix.com/ [23:07] Alternative link CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://phoronix.com/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/http://phoronix.com/ [23:07] TR Bot Hardware Reviews, Open-Source Benchmarks & Linux Performance - Phoronix [23:07] schestowitz latest: AMD Patch To Use MWAIT Instead Of HALT For Certain Cases Yield A ~21% Improvement [23:07] schestowitz AMD [23:08] schestowitz Microsoft Working On AMD GPU Hotplug Support For Linux Driver [23:08] schestowitz AMD+Microsoft [23:08] schestowitz Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Ready With Mesa 22.0, Early Intel Arc Graphics Enabled & Amber Added [23:08] schestowitz OK, dine [23:08] schestowitz *fine [23:08] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: I expect to be back tomorrow) [23:08] schestowitz AMD Readies Linux Patches For x2AVIC Support [23:08] schestowitz AMD again [23:08] schestowitz so latest 4 stories: [23:08] schestowitz 3 AMD stories [23:08] schestowitz 1 Microsoft [23:08] schestowitz and come on, AMD isn't a BIG thing [23:09] schestowitz you might THINK it is [23:09] schestowitz IF you read Microbell [23:09] schestowitz because he keeps mentioning them so much [23:09] psydruid the only thing I find mildly interesting is the tachyum article [23:09] schestowitz I could take a screenshot [23:09] psydruid yes [23:09] schestowitz But I think we established this point already [23:09] schestowitz no need to admonish any more [23:10] schestowitz re tachyum article [23:10] schestowitz I took that [23:10] schestowitz but [23:10] schestowitz the original [23:10] schestowitz he just took the original tachyum article [23:10] schestowitz a press release [23:10] schestowitz and copy pasted some bits [23:10] schestowitz I can just go to the source [23:10] schestowitz it's in English [23:10] schestowitz it's clear [23:10] schestowitz and has more navigation buttons so I can get more info [23:11] schestowitz anbd no annoying ads and popups [23:11] schestowitz the ads in phoronix have your data sent to about 500 companies [23:11] schestowitz when you get presented with a popup ask for more info [23:11] schestowitz and then scroll down the list [23:11] schestowitz I think I did this in a video once, then copy pasted the list into text editor [23:11] schestowitz then line count [23:12] psydruid AMD hasn't been relevant to me since 2009 and not for people I've done stuff for since 2013 [23:13] psydruid and I don't see them becoming relevant to me ever again [23:13] TR News "Based on some random data a bunch of news outlets started saying that nobody is adopting Windows 11 and microsoft is dissapointed but looking at prior Windows releases tells a very different story." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8hihk3UC3Ig http://techrights.org/2022/01/26/microsoft-delighted-by-failure/ [23:13] DaemonFC Hmmm, maybe a Buick. [23:13] TR Bot Has Windows 11 Adoption Really Stopped? - Invidious [23:13] TR Bot Microsoft Delighted by Windows 11 (Vista 11) Usage, Which is Only 1% Three Months After Official Launch and Six Months After Release Online | Techrights [23:13] psydruid they suffer from "Small Intel Syndrome" [23:13] DaemonFC You can't really go too wrong with the 3800 Buick V6. The car will just rust apart around that. [23:14] TR News If Brodie Robertson gets his 'info' from Reddit, sooner or later he'll be repeating Microsoft shills and trolls [23:14] psydruid you need an adblocker on Phoronix like you need one anywhere else on the web [23:14] schestowitz-TR psydruid: good disgnosis [23:14] schestowitz-TR re AMD [23:14] schestowitz-TR psydruid: I have that [23:14] schestowitz-TR some do not [23:14] schestowitz-TR and if I link to that site [23:15] schestowitz-TR I do not treat people well [23:15] schestowitz-TR I already strip ?trackers=garbage-for-spying from URLs [23:15] schestowitz-TR with phoronix there's no printer-friendly version [23:16] TR News Planet GNOME is shilling proprietary software by keeping Miguel de Icaza in it (link omitted) http://techrights.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza#2022 [23:16] TR Bot Miguel de Icaza - Techrights [23:16] psydruid AMD's bread and butter is Windows [23:16] schestowitz-TR yes [23:16] schestowitz-TR PCs [23:17] schestowitz-TR but they also want the server share [23:17] schestowitz-TR with gnu/linux [23:17] psydruid I can see them losing market share to ARM in servers over the next few years [23:17] schestowitz-TR now they have steam dReck to cheer for [23:17] psydruid even Microsoft is adding ARM servers to Azure now [23:17] schestowitz-TR psydruid: even microsloth now advertises those chips for clown [23:17] schestowitz-TR I did not link to any of the articles [23:18] schestowitz-TR of course they mention "linux" [23:18] schestowitz-TR because windows in microsoft clown would not run on these [23:18] schestowitz-TR afaik, phoronix did not mention this [23:18] schestowitz-TR I was a bit surprise [23:18] schestowitz-TR some flattering article about "azure" [23:18] schestowitz-TR "click here to find more" [23:18] schestowitz-TR "thanks to mirosoft for providing access for benchmarks" [23:19] psydruid Azure ARM servers are going to run GNU/Linux [23:19] schestowitz-TR I have not watched https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8hihk3UC3Ig [23:19] TR Bot Has Windows 11 Adoption Really Stopped? - Invidious [23:19] psydruid I don't think there is any demand for Windows on ARM [23:19] schestowitz-TR I am guessing he got his 'info' from Microsoft liars [23:19] schestowitz-TR and decided to do 'contrarian' video [23:19] schestowitz-TR lying for Microsoft, basically... [23:20] schestowitz-TR anyway, I'll not add this link to tuxmachinex [23:20] schestowitz-TR I'll add e ditorial comments in TR Daily Links [23:20] psydruid I'm watching it now [23:20] schestowitz-TR phoronix frustrates mer [23:20] schestowitz-TR I linked to phoronix like 30,000 times [23:20] DaemonFC https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-Ford-Crown-Victoria-Waukegan-d324_L7297#listing=318229898/NONE [23:20] Alternative link CloudFlare: cargurus.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-Ford-Crown-Victoria-Waukegan-d324_L7297#listing=318229898/NONE https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-Ford-Crown-Victoria-Waukegan-d324_L7297#listing=318229898/NONE [23:20] TR Bot Ford Crown Victoria for Sale in Waukegan, IL - CarGurus [23:20] schestowitz-TR psydruid: he thinks reedit is "research" (his word) [23:21] schestowitz-TR filtered by reddit sponsors like Microsoft [23:21] psydruid I bet he liked the free traffic [23:21] schestowitz-TR no, wait [23:21] DaemonFC 250 horsepower? Nice. My 1996 only produced 205. [23:21] schestowitz-TR phoronix wa good [23:21] schestowitz-TR but not anymore [23:21] DaemonFC "There have been some improvements." [23:21] psydruid and now he doesn't need it anymore [23:21] schestowitz-TR yes [23:21] schestowitz-TR good luck to him with his new friends [23:21] psydruid since he has sold out [23:21] schestowitz-TR I don't get paid JACK [23:21] schestowitz-TR I PAY to run techrights [23:22] schestowitz-TR why would I spent my time putting food on the table of AMD "influencer"? [23:22] psydruid I wouldn't [23:22] schestowitz https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-AMDGPU-Hotplug [23:22] Alternative link CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-AMDGPU-Hotplug https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-AMDGPU-Hotplug [23:22] TR Bot Working On AMD GPU Hotplug Support For Linux Driver - Phoronix [23:22] schestowitz he covers it for AMD [23:22] schestowitz not for Microsoft [23:23] psydruid but I wouldn't have done it in the first place [23:23] schestowitz https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=epyc-azure-hbv3&num=1 [23:23] Alternative link CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=epyc-azure-hbv3&num=1 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=epyc-azure-hbv3&num=1 [23:23] TR Bot EPYC 7003 Series Performance In The Cloud With Microsoft Azure HBv3 HPC VMs - Phoronix [23:23] schestowitz AMD [23:23] schestowitz and Microsoft [23:23] psydruid then again there weren't many such sites at the time [23:23] schestowitz https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-milan-x&num=1 [23:23] Alternative link CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-milan-x&num=1 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-milan-x&num=1 [23:23] TR Bot Announces Milan-X 3D V-Cache CPUs, Azure Prepares For Great Upgrade - Phoronix [23:24] schestowitz https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-milanx-hbv3&num=1 [23:24] Alternative link CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-milanx-hbv3&num=1 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-milanx-hbv3&num=1 [23:24] TR Bot Milan-X Upgrade In The Cloud Makes Microsoft Azure HBv3 Very Compelling For HPC Review - Phoronix [23:24] schestowitz then there's microsoft pluton and amd [23:24] schestowitz I could go on and on [23:24] psydruid all this shows to me is that AMD is scared [23:24] schestowitz his AMD shilling becomes Microsoft marketing [23:24] schestowitz he sends business to Microsoft [23:24] schestowitz (and AMD) [23:24] schestowitz https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-0253814508491313:1305299758&ie=UTF-8&q=amdazure&sa=Search&ref=www.phoronix.com/scan.php%3Fpage%3Dhome [23:24] TR Bot Programmable Search Engine [23:24] psydruid the opposite message of what they want to convey [23:25] schestowitz https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-0253814508491313:1305299758&ie=UTF-8&q=amd+azure&sa=Search&ref=www.phoronix.com/scan.php%3Fpage%3Dhome [23:25] TR Bot Programmable Search Engine [23:25] schestowitz better url [23:25] psydruid at AWS Graviton grew just as much if not more than AMD [23:26] psydruid so AMD gravitates towards Microsoft [23:26] schestowitz pluton at top https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-0253814508491313:1305299758&ie=UTF-8&q=amd+microsoft&sa=Search&ref=www.phoronix.com/scan.php%3Fpage%3Dhome [23:26] TR Bot Programmable Search Engine [23:26] schestowitz he's not shilling mirosoft [23:26] schestowitz he shills amd [23:26] psydruid until Microsoft does the same thing to them [23:26] schestowitz but amd shills microsoft [23:26] psydruid yes [23:26] schestowitz so inadvertently, the new bosses of michael made him microsoft shills [23:26] schestowitz this I cannot accept [23:27] schestowitz so the site is not compromised [23:27] schestowitz it's run by its "shareholders" [23:27] schestowitz and those shareholders are not on our side [23:27] schestowitz it's like LF "lite" [23:27] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/820242.jpg [23:27] Alternative link CloudFlare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/820242.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/820242.jpg [23:28] psydruid it just makes it much less interesting than it used to be [23:28] schestowitz is the Brodie Robertson video a case of "I saw some random troll say"? [23:29] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2013/06/09/reddit-infiltrated/ [23:29] TR Bot Microsoft Crime Persists: AstroTurfing a Regular Practice, Reddit Full of Paid Microsoft AstroTurfers | Techrights [23:29] psydruid I need to watch it again, it became one big blurb of nonsense [23:30] TR News Slackware: Chromium 100 out-of-band security update addresses (again) a single vulnerability | Alien Pastures https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/chromium-100-out-of-band-security-update-addresses-again-a-single-vulnerability/ Source: Slackware [23:30] TR Bot Chromium 100 out-of-band security update addresses (again) a single vulnerability | Alien Pastures [23:30] psydruid I heard Microsoft Windows over and over [23:30] schestowitz-TR vista 11 is one big BLOB; of nonsense [23:30] schestowitz-TR Brodie Robertson invests a lot in production quality [23:31] schestowitz-TR camera mic etc. [23:31] schestowitz-TR but sometimes I do not agree with him [23:31] schestowitz-TR not many gnu/linux channels remain [23:31] schestowitz-TR gulagtube starves them (off traffic) [23:31] schestowitz-TR so they stop posting "new conteeeeeent" [23:31] schestowitz-TR distrotube complained the other dayt [23:32] schestowitz-TR about gulagtube also suspending linux channels [23:32] schestowitz-TR without much awareness that this was happening [23:32] schestowitz-TR eventually I hope more of them will self-host videos like we do [23:32] bnchs__ "well uhhh i got you a book on designing software" [23:32] schestowitz-TR fsf uses peertube and self-hosted mediagoblin [23:32] schestowitz-TR peertubew =p2p [23:33] psydruid gulagtube is more and more becoming malware [23:33] schestowitz-TR yes, twitter too [23:33] schestowitz-TR 2 years ago youtube would not even open without js [23:33] schestowitz-TR it shows phantom objects [23:34] psydruid I rarely use the official interfaces anymore [23:34] schestowitz-TR twitter in end of 2020 (dec 16th iirc, after 15th was set in stone) did similar stuff [23:34] schestowitz-TR and now you cannot even follow links [23:34] psydruid although in the case of twitter you can't avoid it [23:35] psydruid querying twitter through a bot is more useful to me now [23:35] schestowitz-TR try opening t.co links without JS [23:35] schestowitz-TR and see what happens [23:35] psydruid I don't [23:35] schestowitz-TR I noticed it this week for the first time [23:35] psydruid there is a not on irc that allows you to do a @tsearch [23:35] schestowitz-TR their link shortener does not redirect unless you run their proprietary program [23:35] schestowitz-TR on your computer [23:36] psydruid bot* [23:36] schestowitz-TR use nitter [23:36] schestowitz-TR I use nitter in a script [23:36] schestowitz-TR in the past you could do twitter via email [23:36] schestowitz-TR notifications [23:36] schestowitz-TR they shut this down [23:36] schestowitz-TR next was rss feeds [23:37] schestowitz-TR they obliterated the "service" [23:37] schestowitz-TR even the notifications are now mostly SPAM [23:37] schestowitz-TR so even wasting 2 minutes there would be 2 minutes wasted [23:37] schestowitz-TR like watching ads [23:37] schestowitz-TR and getting nothing of value [23:38] TR News Old skool = good school https://jmtd.net/log/Hope_in_a_Darkened_Heart/ [23:38] TR Bot jmtd log Hope in a Darkened Heart [23:38] psydruid I think the future is decentralised servers run on low-power chips, maybe even party solar-powered [23:38] schestowitz-TR yeah [23:38] schestowitz-TR my pi has run ok for months [23:38] schestowitz-TR since the microsd breakdown [23:38] bnchs__ really? [23:39] bnchs__ low-power servers [23:39] schestowitz-TR now I back up the whole system, even root and boot, to external storage [23:39] bnchs__ that's great [23:39] psydruid yes [23:39] schestowitz-TR so recovery would take only minutes [23:39] bnchs__ i mean it would only run a web server [23:39] schestowitz-TR literally boot from the other media device [23:39] bnchs__ and a IRC server [23:39] bnchs__ or something [23:39] schestowitz-TR and rianne has a rasp400 [23:39] schestowitz-TR so I have a spare machine too [23:39] schestowitz-TR and spare routers in case I need those [23:40] schestowitz-TR not sure how home hosting would work for irc [23:40] schestowitz-TR irc needs low latency [23:40] schestowitz-TR and many concurrent connections [23:40] psydruid even my 5-year-old orange pi can run everything for a home environment [23:40] schestowitz-TR I very much doubt running this irc network from home would scale ok, esp. for network lags [23:41] psydruid of course you need more compute power for more serious services [23:41] schestowitz-TR gemini is OK with high latency [23:41] schestowitz-TR maybe it'll take 1 second to load, not 100ms [23:41] psydruid but the hardware will grow up [23:41] schestowitz-TR I've not moved to fibreoptics yet [23:41] schestowitz-TR they wanted to make me the first in our area [23:41] psydruid 5 watt in 2030 will give you a lot more compute than 5 watt gave you in 2020 [23:42] schestowitz-TR and I quit when I saw it was something they were ill equipped to deliver reliably [23:42] schestowitz-TR they compensated me 90 pounds for the trouble [23:42] schestowitz-TR 2030 will be a harsh time [23:42] schestowitz-TR not sure we'll worry about home hosting [23:42] schestowitz-TR 2022 is worse than 2008 [23:42] psydruid maybe [23:43] schestowitz http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/06/data-issue/ [23:43] psydruid unless societies get reformed [23:43] TR Bot Blog Archive Over 20,000 COVID-19 Patients in British Hospitals, NHS Reports It Has DATA ISSUE and 2,714 Deaths [...] Added Retrospectively on 6 April 2022 [23:43] psydruid we could see more wars [23:43] psydruid including civil ones [23:43] schestowitz-TR more [23:43] schestowitz-TR that's the key word [23:43] schestowitz-TR we already have wars [23:43] schestowitz-TR ukraine and maybe poland next [23:43] schestowitz-TR or moldova [23:43] schestowitz-TR my sister works with some ukrainian programmers [23:44] schestowitz-TR they're affected, obv. [23:44] schestowitz-TR notice how 'normalised' attacks on the Internet became [23:44] psydruid I know many people in those countries [23:44] schestowitz-TR I gave examples as recently as this morning [23:45] schestowitz-TR there would be uproar if the same things happened a decade ago [23:45] schestowitz-TR they purge a ton of material online [23:45] schestowitz-TR and take down networks etc. [23:45] schestowitz-TR so THAT is the future of the Net [23:45] schestowitz-TR not the Web [23:45] schestowitz-TR the Net [23:45] psydruid as I lived and worked there and also visited over the years [23:45] schestowitz-TR imagine them taking down IRC networks [23:45] schestowitz-TR for not being with NATO or whatever [23:46] schestowitz-TR networks, not channels [23:46] psydruid I'm wondering if this wasn't always the idea behind the net [23:46] schestowitz-TR "your letsencrypt cert has been revoked" [23:46] psydruid a means to control societies [23:46] schestowitz-TR "reason: radical content; citing some White House Internet Directive[NUMBER]" [23:46] schestowitz-TR Microsdoft is still banning persians in github [23:46] schestowitz-TR gitLAB also [23:47] schestowitz-TR if you have iranian 'blood', you are "cracker" [23:47] schestowitz-TR US never cracks aanyone [23:47] schestowitz-TR this is "normal" now [23:47] schestowitz-TR this is NOT for development [23:47] schestowitz-TR for access too [23:47] schestowitz-TR cannot access gitLAB repos [23:47] schestowitz-TR to GET code [23:47] psydruid "if they are all on the net wasting time playing video games and makng tiktok videos, they own' find out that we are ruining their societies" [23:47] schestowitz-TR because Iran... WANTS to have nukes [23:48] schestowitz-TR never mind India and Pak already having hundreds [23:48] psydruid won't* [23:48] psydruid Iran can be bullied, India not [23:49] schestowitz-TR Imram Kahn has just attacked his own democracyt [23:49] schestowitz-TR and he has nukes [23:49] schestowitz-TR but that's OK [23:49] schestowitz-TR Mosharaf et al ensure US 'controls' the place [23:49] schestowitz-TR until Kahn does photo ops with Putin [23:49] schestowitz-TR maybe github will block kashmir and jammu next [23:49] schestowitz-TR like it did the oblasts in ukraine [23:50] schestowitz-TR psydruid: IRAN Kahn :-) [23:50] psydruid I read about Imran Khan a few days ago, but I don't remember what exactly it was about [23:50] schestowitz-TR