●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, May 06, 2024 ●●
● May 06
[00:00]	bagiraX	its not really an opinion if it is for sale
[00:00]	MinceR	and melon is not a famous person?
[00:00]	bagiraX	of course he is
[00:01]	bagiraX	i think this may not be the conversation you're wanting to have
[00:01]	MinceR	yeah
[00:01]	MinceR	i miss the old times when conversations on this channel were interesting
[00:01]	MinceR	but also, this channel might not be the one you're looking for either
[00:02]	bagiraX	you mean an otherwise divisive echo chamber
[00:02]	MinceR	what the fuck is a divisive echo chamber?
[00:03]	arkanian	DaemonFC should have his own show on Fox News
[00:03]	bagiraX	yes
[00:03]	arkanian	this channel is basically his social media account
[00:03]	bagiraX	"Illinois Man"
[00:04]	arkanian	instead of mastodon, he rants here
[00:04]	bagiraX	in all fairness masaton is the cesspool i said it would become when i started getting traction
[00:04]	MinceR	Illinois-Man, Illinois-Man, does whatever an Illinois can...
[00:04]	bagiraX	bah
[00:05]	bagiraX	**in all fairness mastadon* is the cesspool i said it would become when it* started getting traction
[00:05]	bagiraX	its supposed to be decentralized but its so geared towards creating echo chambers that the infection took hold there too
[00:06]	bagiraX	might as well be reddit
[00:07]	bagiraX	emmanuel goldstein isn't going to penetrate either of those worlds
[00:07]	MinceR	maybe a meteorite will, though
[00:07]	admfubar	https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/03/amnesty_indonesia_surveillance/
[00:07]	TR Bot	 Indonesia sneakily buys spyware, says Amnesty International The Register
[00:10]	DaemonFC	Liberals are such whining babies that have to cancel everyone, because their opinions are so weak and indefensible that they don't even bother debating anyone.
[00:10]	DaemonFC	They just push a button and make anyone who disagrees with them disappear.
[00:10]	DaemonFC	And then they've "won".
[00:12]	DaemonFC	Indiana is arguing with the ACLU that it shouldn't have to give a $150,000 crotch lobotomy to a man who fucked and decapitated a small child who wants to be in the women's prison now. Over with the actual women. It's sad that they even have to argue what to do with this guy. 50 years ago, society knew what to do with this guy. Straight to the electric chair.
[00:12]	MinceR	you keep using that word. i do not think it means what you think it means.
[00:12]	DaemonFC	They shouldn't just electrocute these people.
[00:13]	DaemonFC	They should gradually dial it up so they're conscious to have the shit shocked out of them first to make it as painful and lingering as possible.
[00:13]	DaemonFC	Then everyone who decided to do this shit would know what they had waiting when they got caught.
[00:14]	bagiraX	perhaps even psychotropics that enhance their consciousness and sensitivity while greatly extending their perception of the passage of time
[00:14]	DaemonFC	But they have to stop and argue with the ACLU, who represented the actual Nazis, about how he wants to be a pretty pretty princess now.
[00:14]	MinceR	so, you hardly trust the state to do anything, but you do trust them to pick whom to torture slowly to death?
[00:14]	bagiraX	^
[00:14]	DaemonFC	I think most people in society agree that if anyone deserves it, it's this guy.
[00:14]	MinceR	i guess it fits neatly with "the state should get out of our lives, unless it's about enforcing religious rules, in which case, i'm all about big government!"
[00:15]	MinceR	most people in society are fucking stupid
[00:15]	bagiraX	oh and dont forget cruel
[00:15]	MinceR	stupid, evil, cruel, savage
[00:15]	MinceR	did i leave something out?
[00:15]	bagiraX	there's my mini-hobbes
[00:16]	DaemonFC	There's several ways that would be acceptable to me for the State to deal with pedos. 1. Like I said about this guy. Electrocute him to death, but slowly and gradually. 2. Publicly crucify them and feed their innards to the birds. 3. Just let them go, but make it legal for anyone to do whatever they want to them at this point and be sure to publish their pictures and address publicly.
[00:16]	DaemonFC	I could keep going, but you get the idea.
[00:16]	MinceR	hobbes' leviathan is also fucking stupid
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[00:17]	DaemonFC	The only reason most of these people are alive once they hit "the list" is because the law protects these perverted monsters from what they deserve to have happen to them. There was a couple in Florida that got convicted of going down a sex offender list shooting them.
[00:17]	DaemonFC	I'd have used Jury Nullification on that one if I was in their jury.
[00:18]	DaemonFC	Someone should have pinned a medal on both of them.
[00:18]	bagiraX	unfortunately DaemonFC, MinceR is right.  The level of civilization of a society is measured by how it treats its most undesired elements.  Torture and cruel punishments deface the implementing institution.  A nitrogen gas mask to a peaceful slumber is more appropriate than an LSD-induced horrorfest of a sex change without anaesthesia followed by a psilocibin overdose
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[00:19]	DaemonFC	I think the majority of people would be a fair bit less kind to child molestors than the courts. And if those people just lost the protection of the law, nature would take its course.
[00:20]	DaemonFC	We should not judge a "civilization" as good when it only gives rights and freedoms and protections to the predators living among us.
[00:20]	bagiraX	the fact that you think you dont have rights and freedoms and protections is laughable
[00:20]	MinceR	then maybe we should stop pretending that it is right to give some people power over other people
[00:20]	MinceR	especially when we keep giving that power to ASPD enjoyers
[00:21]	DaemonFC	If you just removed the protection that the State grants to them, the neighborhood would go grab some bats, pipes, guns, and bricks and solve the problem permanently as soon as they knew there was one living next door.
[00:21]	DaemonFC	And I think you know that.
[00:21]	bagiraX	and thats why you're not in charge of anyone
[00:22]	DaemonFC	Sadly.
[00:22]	bagiraX	just pull the lever and fill the potato bag
[00:22]	bagiraX	thats what youre here for
[00:24]	arkanian	what if the person was wrongly convicted? that does happen, that is why people are usually against the death penalty
[00:24]	MinceR	exactly
[00:24]	bagiraX	one of many reasons
[00:24]	DaemonFC	Fuck those people.
[00:24]	bagiraX	but the idea that a pissed off ex can make up lies about somebody and cause people to think this way about them is terrifying
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[00:25]	DaemonFC	That's just liberal wuss talk.
[00:25]	arkanian	so what if corrupt cops put CP on Jacob Appelbaum's computer?
[00:25]	DaemonFC	They don't just get a unanimous sentencing jury.
[00:25]	DaemonFC	They also get a unanimous DEATH SENTENCE jury, with DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
[00:25]	DaemonFC	There's safeguards.
[00:25]	DaemonFC	If you're on death row even in Texas, it's because you're the worst of the worst.
[00:26]	bagiraX	so DaemonFC, a man who's morality is hijacked by the severity of the accusation, believes juries aren't hijacked by the severity of the accusation, having been passively exposed to the history of criminal justice in the west
[00:26]	arkanian	court isn't about truth, its about who has the best case
[00:26]	bagiraX	s/who's/whose/
[00:26]	MinceR	https://i.etsystatic.com/20208444/c/1962/1558/509/392/il/d5a150/4914294410/il_680x540.4914294410_3bs5.jpg
[00:26]	DaemonFC	[18:25] <arkanian> so what if corrupt cops put CP on Jacob Appelbaum's computer?
[00:27]	DaemonFC	I saw a cop get charged with throwing a wife beater on the sidewalk. The other cops turned on him. It's very sad, really, that we live in a world where a wife beater gets thrown to the sidewalk and anyone even remotely cares.
[00:27]	bagiraX	DaemonFC: easy there, an anonymous group of grifters that when identified turned out to be serial defamers of others accused him of rape, so impartiality and presumption of innocence should not occur there
[00:28]	DaemonFC	In a sane world, the guy gets to the jail less a few teeth and nobody gives a fuck.
[00:28]	DaemonFC	I didn't say Jacob Appelbaum did anything wrong.
[00:28]	DaemonFC	Or that he did not do anything wrong.
[00:28]	DaemonFC	I don't actually care.
[00:28]	bagiraX	sure you do
[00:29]	bagiraX	you just said someone accused of beating their wife should be brutally assaulted extra-judicially by law enforcement officers
[00:29]	bagiraX	you can't say you're not influenced by propaganda while literally demonstrating your vulnerability to propaganda
[00:29]	DaemonFC	That's all these people do is come home and rape and beat the wife, and breed like rabbits, and spread their unemployed genes, and make a living off of the cops that have to go deal with them.
[00:29]	bagiraX	there's a bit on your brain that's world-writable
[00:30]	arkanian	the eugenics argument, classy
[00:30]	arkanian	'unemployed genes'
[00:30]	bagiraX	anybody can come up and go `echo 'whatever opinion i want' > /dev/DaemonFC-worldview`
[00:30]	DaemonFC	When the cops are out there every week because he's beaten her AGAIN.....
[00:31]	DaemonFC	I doubt anyone would mind if they put the guy in cement shoes and tossed him in the nearest large body of water, for that matter.
[00:31]	DaemonFC	One less asshole in the world.
[00:31]	arkanian	because they are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law
[00:31]	bagiraX	^
[00:31]	DaemonFC	The problem is that when you convict the guy of something every week.
[00:32]	DaemonFC	And he has 18 pages of convictions, and that's only since he turned 18.
[00:32]	DaemonFC	Who even wants to listen to his fucking excuses anymore?
[00:32]	arkanian	strawman
[00:33]	DaemonFC	The leftist media is busy bitching about Home Depot making you pay for power tools before they work.
[00:33]	DaemonFC	I don't see anything wrong with this as long as there isn't a mechanism to make them not work after they're purchased.
[00:34]	DaemonFC	The leftists apparently think there's a constitutional right for these smash and grab thieves to go fill bags with power tools and run out of the store.
[00:34]	arkanian	what about a gun that stops working if you forgot or can't renew your firearms license?
[00:34]	bagiraX	heh
[00:35]	DaemonFC	I support the Smart Gun bills they propose as long as the registered owner of the gun is the only one in control of it.
[00:35]		*MinceR wonders how a gene can be employed
[00:35]	bagiraX	"Your right to self-defense is temporarily suspended due to a low social credit score.  Please find your nearest IRS kiosk and deposit funds."
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[00:35]	DaemonFC	Properly done, it should be impossible for anyone but the owner to fire it, meaning that nobody can pick it up and shoot them with their own gun.
[00:35]	arkanian	bagiraX: I was thinking more or less a bad visit to the therapist
[00:36]	arkanian	"this guy is going to shoot up a church"
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[00:36]	MinceR	if they call it a smart gun, it had better fire target-seeking projectiles
[00:36]	DaemonFC	MinceR: Double whammy!
[00:36]	MinceR	:)
[00:38]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JnpynfwU70
[00:38]	TR Bot	https://invidious.privacydev.net/watch?v=0JnpynfwU70
[00:38]	DaemonFC	:D
[00:38]	TR Bot	invidious.privacydev.net | Judge Dredd scene - Invidious
[00:38]	DaemonFC	MinceR: I signed the White House petition to create Street Judges like in Judge Dredd.
[00:38]	DaemonFC	They took down the website after that one got several hundred thousand signatures and qualified for a reply from Obama.
[00:39]	DaemonFC	And then he never replied.
[00:39]	MinceR	DaemonFC: "Gee, how do you like that? I must be a Judge."
[00:39]	arkanian	its ridiculous
[00:39]	MinceR	lol @ petition
[00:39]	arkanian	I don't want police to be judge, jury and executioner
[00:40]	arkanian	especially when they share biases with the KKK
[00:40]	DaemonFC	I so want a Lawgiver, MinceR
[00:40]	bagiraX	my goodness policemen are no where near smart enough to be judge
[00:40]	bagiraX	they take an aptitude test at the academy
[00:40]	bagiraX	if they score too high they get booted out
[00:40]	MinceR	yeah, the judge dredd society is not a utopia
[00:40]	arkanian	most tv shows with the police are copaganda
[00:41]		*MinceR prefers copacabana
[00:42]	bagiraX	shit i had too many carbs for lunch and am now lethargic
[00:42]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8VqdhNnwdY
[00:42]	TR Bot	https://invidious.baczek.me/watch?v=A8VqdhNnwdY
[00:42]	TR Bot	invidious.baczek.me | Jim Carrey - Cuban Pete from The Mask [HD] - Invidious
[00:42]	DaemonFC	MinceR: ^
[00:42]	arkanian	police are allowed to lie to suspects too
[00:43]	MinceR	"Now a real killer, when he picked up the ZF-1, would've immediately asked about the little red button on the bottom of the gun."
[00:43]	DaemonFC	That's why you don't talk to them except to identify yourself and then refuse to talk to them.
[00:43]	bagiraX	yep
[00:43]	bagiraX	never talk to the police
[00:43]	bagiraX	if you're not brought in, it's "am i free to go" and "here's my information" if they ask
[00:43]	MinceR	lol @ cuban pete
[00:44]	bagiraX	if you're brought in, it's "i choose to remain silent.  can I have my lawyer"
[00:44]	DaemonFC	Right, don't discuss any particulars of the situation with them.
[00:44]	DaemonFC	Name, rank, and serial number.
[00:44]	DaemonFC	So to speak.
[00:44]	DaemonFC	Don't talk to the police.
[00:44]	DaemonFC	It's a bad idea. It's always a bad idea to talk to the police.
[00:44]	DaemonFC	Don't do it.
[00:45]	arkanian	and if Judge Dredd decides you're guilty because you won't talk?
[00:45]	DaemonFC	If you do it, they will dry fuck you and then you will go to prison. Don't talk to the police.
[00:45]	arkanian	bang bang bang?
[00:45]	bagiraX	if they keep trying to talk to you and ask questions after youre brought in, the answer to every question is "lawyer." and nothing else.  no witty comments.  no lies.  no answers.  just "lawyer."
[00:45]	DaemonFC	arkanian: It was not a serious petition.
[00:45]	DaemonFC	It was to call bullshit on the whole "This gets a reply." thing.
[00:46]	arkanian	it was trolling
[00:46]	DaemonFC	Yeah, so?
[00:46]	arkanian	he did the right thing, don't feed the trolls
[00:46]	DaemonFC	Delete all the petitions.
[00:46]	DaemonFC	Because he didn't want to answer one of them.
[00:46]	DaemonFC	Even if the answer was "We're not going to do that."
[00:46]	DaemonFC	He answered one about building a Death Star.
[00:47]	MinceR	DELETE! DELETE!
[00:47]	DaemonFC	EXTERMINATE!
[00:47]	MinceR	:)
[00:48]	DaemonFC	arkanian: One question they ask citizenship applicants is if they support the system of government in the United States. This includes the Constitution. The Constitution has the right to free speech and the right to own guns. The government possesses chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons.
[00:49]	DaemonFC	If a person says they support the government and they don't support these things, did they perjure themselves?
[00:49]	arkanian	no
[00:49]	DaemonFC	Why not?
[00:49]	arkanian	because the constitution does have room for improvement
[00:50]	DaemonFC	If you literally oppose the constitution, how can you say you support it as is and not be lying?
[00:50]	arkanian	nothing wrong with supporting it and being critical of it at the same time
[00:50]	DaemonFC	I never lied because I never had to say I supported it.
[00:50]	DaemonFC	But people asking for citizenship have to.
[00:50]	DaemonFC	Meaning they either support it or they're lying.
[00:50]	arkanian	you can support the constitution and be critical of it
[00:51]	DaemonFC	And maybe they should return to their country where their own constitution says women should be in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant.
[00:51]	arkanian	it used to have slavery in it for christ sakes
[00:51]	MinceR	you can uphold the constitution while attempting to amend it the legal way
[00:52]	DaemonFC	Technically, the US federal government is in breach of the Constitutional Amendment process.
[00:52]	MinceR	how did application for citizenship come up anyway?
[00:52]	DaemonFC	There have certainly been enough States calling for an Article V Constitutional Convention.
[00:52]	DaemonFC	But the government avoids having one by not acknowledging it.
[00:52]	arkanian	MinceR: he wants immigrants to be deported if they won't tolerate hate speech
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[00:53]	DaemonFC	Also, if we had one, Republicans would have the majority of the delegates and would write the new Constitution.
[00:53]	DaemonFC	There is no such thing as hate speech.
[00:53]	Sompi	psydruid: Yes, EU wants to destroy open source, amongst many other things. But how to make the academic PMC midwits understand that?
[00:53]	arkanian	there is
[00:53]	DaemonFC	That is an undefined term under actual laws.
[00:53]	DaemonFC	The UN doesn't make actual laws that have any binding effect on me.
[00:54]	DaemonFC	And where I live does not define hate speech as a crime.
[00:54]	arkanian	inciting hatred is hate speech
[00:54]	DaemonFC	That's not a crime.
[00:54]	MinceR	arkanian: are people working in the USA with a work visa considered to be immigrants?
[00:54]	DaemonFC	If it is, go arrest the nignogs from the Nation of Islam out telling people to kill the Jews and Gays.
[00:54]	DaemonFC	:)
[00:55]	arkanian	https://www.ala.org/advocacy/intfreedom/hate#:~:text=Under%20current%20First%20Amendment%20jurisprudence,against%20a%20person%20or%20group.
[00:55]	TR Bot	 Hate Speech and Hate Crime | ALA
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[00:55]	DaemonFC	"There is no legal definition of "hate speech" under U.S. law"
[00:55]	DaemonFC	Literally the first sentence.
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[00:55]	DaemonFC	"In the United States, hate speech is protected by the First Amendment."
[00:56]	DaemonFC	Second paragraph, first sentence.
[00:56]	DaemonFC	:)
[00:56]	DaemonFC	So if I call the Palestinians sand monkeys that deserve whatever Israel decides to do to them.
[00:56]	DaemonFC	That's protected speech.
[00:57]	DaemonFC	https://www.cbsnews.com/news/asian-soccer-body-apologizes-for-sand-monkeys-slur-of-uae-team/
[00:57]	TR Bot	 Asian soccer body apologizes for "sand monkeys" slur of UAE team - CBS News
[00:57]	DaemonFC	Another reason to like Asian people I suppose.
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● May 06
[01:00]	DaemonFC	"Under current First Amendment jurisprudence, hate speech can only be criminalized when it directly incites imminent criminal activity or consists of specific threats of violence targeted against a person or group."
[01:00]	DaemonFC	That would be "a crime under the law of the jurisdiction".
[01:00]	DaemonFC	Israel is not committing any American crimes so I'm not encouraging them to.
[01:02]	DaemonFC	arkanian: So when the nignogs of Nation of Islam (a hate group according to SPLC) hold up signs calling for god to smite "the fags", then they're not committing a crime.
[01:03]	DaemonFC	First off, god is a fictional entity, and therefore isn't capable of committing a crime.
[01:03]	DaemonFC	If they were encouraging an actual person or persons to do it, that would be a whole different story.
[01:03]	MinceR	under usian law, "God" might be considered nonfictional
[01:04]	MinceR	considering that it's a christian fundamentalist state
[01:04]	DaemonFC	No, God is fictional.
[01:04]	DaemonFC	The courts have repeatedly refused to demand that God attend proceedings against God.
[01:04]	DaemonFC	Or slap him with a restraining order.
[01:04]	MinceR	what was their justification?
[01:04]	DaemonFC	A court in Nebraska said there was no address he could  be reached at.
[01:05]	DaemonFC	So the guy told the court that God would immediately know that he had to attend.
[01:05]	DaemonFC	Because God knows everything.
[01:05]	MinceR	a christian fundamentalist might believe that "God" exists but be unwilling to summon him or slap him with a restraining order
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[01:08]	DaemonFC	The State puts statues of Satan in the Capital building every Christmas.
[01:09]	MinceR	maybe they believe that Satan exists, too
[01:09]	DaemonFC	MinceR: Did you hear about the dyslexic Satanist?
[01:09]	MinceR	yeah
[01:09]	DaemonFC	He sold his soul to Santa.
[01:09]	DaemonFC	:D
[01:10]	bagiraX	where do you think the elves come from
[01:10]	DaemonFC	From shelves.
[01:10]	MinceR	lol
[01:12]	MinceR	"Legends told that the Tel-quessir were born out of the first divine blood shed by Corellon in the deity's battles against the god Gruumsh."
[01:18]	bagiraX	that would actually be really funny if god responded to subpeanas
[01:18]	MinceR	indeed
[01:20]	bagiraX	Your honor we call the stand ":: starts pronouncing angelic name for god, dries up indiana jones style ::"
[01:20]	bagiraX	and then they just replace the DA every time someone has to say his name
[01:20]	MinceR	totally worth it
[01:22]	bagiraX	they finally get him up on the stand
[01:23]	bagiraX	"sir could you have inadvertantly caused the defendant's circumstances with universal law"
[01:23]	bagiraX	and he's all
[01:23]	bagiraX	"i don't fuckin' know, do I look like Chris Punches?"
[01:25]	MinceR	https://invidious.protokolla.fi/watch?v=CpGtBnVZLSk
[01:25]	TR Bot	 Crickets (Awkward Silence) - Sound Effect (HD) - Invidious
[01:25]	bagiraX	and then the DA looks at the stand and it's Chris Punches
[01:28]	bagiraX	DA says "chris can you answer the question"
[01:28]	bagiraX	and he's all like "I literally just came here to pay a speeding ticket"
[01:30]	DaemonFC	There is no such thing as "universal law".
[01:31]	bagiraX	and then promptly mutters something about it being his only day off and leaves
[01:31]	bagiraX	sure there is
[01:31]	bagiraX	dummy
[01:31]	bagiraX	there are all kinds of universal laws
[01:31]	DaemonFC	Well, gravity of course.
[01:31]	DaemonFC	That's my favorite.
[01:32]	DaemonFC	Without it, things would just go flying off into space, which would be fun until it's not.
[01:32]	bagiraX	you had an uncountable number of laws you could reference and you referenced the one thing that isn't a law
[01:34]	DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_law_of_universal_gravitation
[01:34]	TR Bot	 Newton's law of universal gravitation - Wikipedia
[01:35]	bagiraX	DaemonFC: https://pepsicoglobalpontoon.avature.net/careers/JobDetail/United-States-Processing-Operator/425334?rx_ad=3241_73_425334_0&rx_campaign=reach32&rx_job=425334&rx_medium=cpc&rx_r=perf&rx_source=reach-jobget&rx_ts=20240505T202921Z&rx_vp=transactionalperf&rx_p=53658620576-11008%7C425334&ccuid=53658620576-11008&rx_viewer=6c7e8c9f0b4011ef865a75e0af87a26eeff29ba831de457b91f65e6123993c1a
[01:35]	TR Bot	 
[01:36]	DaemonFC	I'm going to go out and say it....
[01:36]	DaemonFC	This has a lot of strikes against it, but probably the worst is having to live in Ohio.
[01:36]	DaemonFC	And in a part of Ohio called "Wooster".
[01:36]	bagiraX	nothin wrong with ohio bub
[01:36]	bagiraX	thats whats wrong with ohio
[01:36]	DaemonFC	Yeah, they come to snuff the Wooster, oh yeah.
[01:37]	DaemonFC	MinceR: ^
[01:37]	bagiraX	its a bring place where little ever happens
[01:37]	bagiraX	*boring place
[01:37]	bagiraX	which makes it good for fortune list companies
[01:37]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAa7J10D8Qw
[01:37]	TR Bot	https://inv.in.projectsegfau.lt/watch?v=JAa7J10D8Qw
[01:37]	TR Bot	inv.in.projectsegfau.lt | Heaven (2005 Remaster) - Invidious
[01:37]	DaemonFC	:)
[01:38]	bagiraX	columbus may have been one of the reasons silicon valley failed
[01:39]	bagiraX	socal's been a colonoscopy bag leaking all over texas and south florida for five years now since the columbus tech scene picked up and got actual money behind it
[01:39]	DaemonFC	Now I need to go get my Talking Heads CDs.
[01:39]	DaemonFC	Thanks.
[01:40]	DaemonFC	Aiiiiiiir
[01:40]	DaemonFC	AIIIIIRRRRRRR!
[01:40]	DaemonFC	AIR!!!!!
[01:40]	DaemonFC	:P
[01:50]	bagiraX	i wish they'd fix the energy problem before doing the EV thing
[01:50]	bagiraX	that's how you get electric spaceships instead of electric cars
[01:51]	bagiraX	they may be close to it with this laser fusion experiement
[01:51]	DaemonFC	I hope that EVs fail soon.
[01:51]	bagiraX	same.  lithium is bad news.
[01:51]	DaemonFC	The longer we go driving with diesel and gas and literally nothing happens, the more the liberals have to scream.
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[01:52]	bagiraX	they could make cars that run off rain water 
[01:52]	bagiraX	there's just an industry bias
[01:53]	bagiraX	electrolysis for brown's gas combustion can be made energy efficient
[01:53]	DaemonFC	They can use carbon dioxide reclamation to make synthetic gasoline at the same time they remove it from the air.
[01:53]	bagiraX	the last thing you want is something that pulls CO2 out of the air
[01:54]	DaemonFC	They're not doing it because it would destabilize the oil business and the Saudis and make fuel so cheap that consumers suddenly had a lot of discretionary income.
[01:54]	DaemonFC	There are a lot of ways to make gasoline.
[01:54]	DaemonFC	You can even make it from coal.
[01:55]	DaemonFC	We've got plenty of coal.
[01:55]	bagiraX	im holding out for one of those tartarian style antigrav vehicles with a fusion engine
[01:55]	DaemonFC	The CO2 to gasoline thing will be bought by the oil companies and taken out back and shot.
[01:56]	DaemonFC	The last thing they want is unlimited cheap fuel that removes CO2 from the air.
[01:56]	DaemonFC	It would remove their best way of controlling people and legitimizing it through lies.
[01:56]	bagiraX	you really dont want to pull CO2 out of the air
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[02:00]	DaemonFC	I like how the news is always stuck on gas prices.
[02:00]	DaemonFC	You know, they go up a little, it costs you $10 more that month.
[02:00]	DaemonFC	Meanwhile, the landlord is using everyone like his personal ATM.
[02:01]	bagiraX	you mean legitamitely collecting rent for lawful services rendered
[02:05]	arkanian	DaemonFC: if the nation of islam is doing that they should be arrested
[02:06]	arkanian	same with westoboro
[02:06]	DaemonFC	THe day a nignog is held responsible for anything is the day I eat my hat.
[02:06]	DaemonFC	Especially in Chicago.
[02:07]	DaemonFC	Even if what they do clearly breaks the law or they attack someone that walks by in front of witnesses, Kim Foxx will just drop all the charges.
[02:07]	DaemonFC	So they're safe. Nobody else in Chicago is.
[02:08]	arkanian	why are you using a word that is exactly like the N word?
[02:09]	DaemonFC	They clearly need a new prosecutor, like when even San Francisco went too far and then realized it when the news cameras showed up and every single one of hundreds of people robbing trains and stores was black.
[02:09]	DaemonFC	But you can't say anything even when it's right there for everyone to see.
[02:10]	DaemonFC	The train companies were talking about ceasing freight runs to the bay area.
[02:10]	bagiraX	this is some 4th reich level potato-chip-baggerism
[02:10]	DaemonFC	Most every business is fleeing, even the pharmacies and grocery stores.
[02:10]	DaemonFC	NOBODY is starting a new one.
[02:10]	arkanian	bagiraX: I know...
[02:11]	bagiraX	gotta get them bags 60% fried taters and 40% air
[02:12]	DaemonFC	So have fun with the street shitters and the lack of medicine and food, I guess.
[02:13]	arkanian	Utah, a mostly conservative state figured out it was cheaper to just give the homeless a house
[02:13]	DaemonFC	Then there's the Pajeet that wants to ethnically cleanse San Francisco.
[02:13]	bagiraX	thats awesome
[02:13]	DaemonFC	That should be fun.
[02:13]	DaemonFC	Won't that be fun?
[02:13]	bagiraX	(im refering to the houses)
[02:14]	DaemonFC	Why is nobody talking about that racist Indian motherfucker?
[02:14]	DaemonFC	Calling him out on HIS bullshit?
[02:14]	arkanian	Who?
[02:14]	bagiraX	because no one cares what you think when youre not talking about load capacity on the potato chip bag filler machine's belt
[02:15]	DaemonFC	The guy that wants to make San Francisco into like, this thing where only rich conservatives can live there. And cops that won't take a loyalty oath to the 1% can leave.
[02:15]	arkanian	lol
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[02:15]	DaemonFC	"With retirement benefits."
[02:15]	TR Bot	 Techrights Welcome to the New Techrights
[02:15]	TR Bot	 Techrights Erinn Clark & Debian: Justice or another Open Source vendetta?
[02:15]		*bagiraX starts taking an axe pick to the san andreas fault line
[02:15]	DaemonFC	Thank you.
[02:16]	DaemonFC	Finally we agree on something.
[02:16]	DaemonFC	Everyone is ready for California to fall into the ocean.
[02:16]	bagiraX	i wouldn't say we agree
[02:16]	DaemonFC	Do Florida too.
[02:16]	bagiraX	there's probably been a moth whose wing fluttering buzzed out the national anthem at some point in history but that doesn't mean it knows the national anthem
[02:16]	arkanian	how about all the southern states
[02:17]	DaemonFC	You mean the ones with the lowest cost of living and most jobs?
[02:17]	TR News	Books vs Internet gemini://idiomdrottning.org/books-vs-internet
[02:17]	DaemonFC	And the good food.
[02:17]	bagiraX	yeah houston is next
[02:17]	arkanian	lulz
[02:17]	DaemonFC	And people who pull their pants up.
[02:17]	bagiraX	its gonna inflate until it sucks
[02:17]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D1272.jpg
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[02:18]	arkanian	DaemonFC: but they can't keep their dicks out of their cousins
[02:18]	DaemonFC	Why should they?
[02:18]	DaemonFC	Cousin sex is overly stigmatized.
[02:18]	arkanian	omg
[02:18]	bagiraX	well this explains alot
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[02:18]	arkanian	this is the worst irc chat i've ever been in
[02:18]	DaemonFC	It's based on this idea that you'll get some sort of weird mutant.
[02:19]	TR News	Many Lives, Many Masters gemini://goodspace.org/mlmm.gmi
[02:19]	DaemonFC	What people are thinking about with weird feeble mutant baby that won't live is like brother-sister shit.
[02:19]	TR News	"A new fully-featured smallnet browser is being developed called Profectus. The beta just came out, but I can't get the precompiled binary to work." gemini://station.martinrue.com/breakfast_champion/39a9c96e4ae8439abf4ed8ef97f1f81c
[02:19]	arkanian	they do that too
[02:20]	DaemonFC	Yeah, that's sort of where I draw the line, for sure.
[02:20]	DaemonFC	Unless they both want to be sterilized.
[02:20]	DaemonFC	Then who cares?
[02:20]	DaemonFC	Enjoy fucking your sister I guess.
[02:21]	bagiraX	how do i put someone on mute in irssi
[02:21]	arkanian	it is /ignore
[02:21]	DaemonFC	It's legal to marry your first cousin in Indiana if you're both over 65 I think, or if at least one can prove that they've been irreversibly sterilized.
[02:22]	DaemonFC	But like half of states have no requirements first.
[02:22]	bagiraX	 /ignore redneck_hitler
[02:22]	arkanian	lmao
[02:22]	DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage_law_in_the_United_States
[02:22]	TR Bot	 Cousin marriage law in the United States - Wikipedia
[02:22]	bagiraX	 /ignore the_meth_reich
[02:22]	DaemonFC	It's perfectly legal to marry, fuck, and impregnate your first cousin in California.
[02:22]	DaemonFC	:)
[02:23]	DaemonFC	Illinois is only if both parties are over 50 or at least one is infertile.
[02:24]	DaemonFC	California is pretty liberal on the cousin fucking issue.
[02:25]	DaemonFC	Wisconsin is interesting.
[02:25]	arkanian	well they did vote for Arnold, a republican, so theres enough cousin fuckers there
[02:25]	DaemonFC	It says only if "the woman" is 55 or one is sterile. So if two men who are first cousins want to marry, it should be legal at any age since there is no woman.
[02:27]	DaemonFC	I don't really think there should be a prohibition on it. This is one of the issues that California got right.
[02:27]	TR News	lost homes to wildfire https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/firefighters-lost-homes-2023-b-c-new-season-1.7188537
[02:27]	DaemonFC	You don't have enough genetic similarity with a first cousin that having a child together is likely to go horribly wrong.
[02:27]	TR Bot	 Firefighters who lost homes to wildfire gear up for season ahead | CBC News
[02:28]	DaemonFC	https://www.popsci.com/marrying-cousins-genetics/
[02:28]	TR Bot	 Can you marry your cousin? Science says ... | Popular Science
[02:28]	TR News	Manitoba war vet's request for D-DAY licence plate twice rejected by MPI before finally getting OK'd https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/licence-plate-personalized-war-veteran-mpi-1.7188082
[02:28]	DaemonFC	It's when generations of it start happening that it turns into a problem.
[02:28]	TR Bot	 Manitoba military vet's request for D-DAY licence plate twice rejected by MPI before finally getting OK'd | CBC News
[02:28]	arkanian	im sure you have a lot of resources on cousin relationships
[02:29]	TR News	Elon Musk Woes Continue https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/twitter-comeback-possible-reason-meta-threads-could-overtake-x-1724411
[02:29]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk Woes Continue: Meta Threads Poised to Overtake X | IBTimes UK
[02:29]	DaemonFC	It's just one of those idle curiosities that I was wondering about.
[02:30]	DaemonFC	Like "Is it really _THAT_ bad?" and the answer is, no it's not.
[02:30]	TR News	Eerie, orange skies engulf Athens as dust clouds blow in from Africa https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/orange-sky-athens-1.7182509 https://www.usnews.com/news/offbeat/articles/2024-04-23/martian-skies-over-athens-greeces-capital-turns-an-orange-hue-with-dust-clouds-from-north-africa
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[02:34]	DaemonFC	[20:25] <arkanian> well they did vote for Arnold, a republican, so theres enough cousin fuckers there
[02:34]	DaemonFC	They had a moment of clarity and decided to vote for something that wasn't hair and teeth and smiles and lies, like Gavin Newsom.
[02:35]	DaemonFC	:)
[02:36]	DaemonFC	https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2024/04/29/multiple-fire-departments-respond-to-wildland-fire-that-burned-several-acres-in-hawthorn-woods/
[02:36]	TR Bot	 Multiple fire departments respond to wildland fire that burned several acres in Hawthorn Woods
[02:37]	DaemonFC	Probably illegal aliens camping back there, tossing garbage around and toasting marshmallows.
[02:37]	DaemonFC	While they plot which store to smash and grab tomorrow.
[02:37]	TR News	Free Speech and Islam https://www.truthdig.com/articles/salman-rushdie-confronts-a-world-where-free-speech-is-no-longer-sacred
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[02:37]	TR News	Bishop Mari Emmanuel's free speech defence of the attack video https://www.theage.com.au/national/nsw/bishop-mari-emmanuels-free-speech-defence-of-the-attack-video-20240425-p5fmi0.html
[02:37]	TR Bot	 Video: Bishop Mari Emmanuel's free speech defence of the attack video
[02:37]	DaemonFC	I mean....."New Arrivals".
[02:38]	arkanian	you're the worst
[02:38]	schestowitz	in some cultures people marry cousins
[02:38]	schestowitz	and it is not even considered bad
[02:39]	schestowitz	even underage cousins
[02:39]	schestowitz	wlecome to a messed up planet
[02:41]	TR News	German Climate Activists Sentenced for Spraying Paint on Brandenburg Gate https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-04-23/german-climate-activists-sentenced-for-spraying-paint-on-brandenburg-gate
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[02:41]	TR News	First-Ever Youth Climate Case https://truthout.org/articles/south-korean-high-court-hears-first-ever-youth-climate-case-in-asia/
[02:41]	TR Bot	 South Korean High Court Hears First-Ever Youth Climate Case in Asia | Truthout
[02:41]	TR News	plastic waste https://www.cbc.ca/news/climate/plastic-study-canada-1.7182609
[02:41]	TR Bot	 Coke, Pepsi top list in global count of plastic waste | CBC News
[02:41]	TR News	Climate Activists Blockade HQ of Worlds Second-Largest Funder of Fossil Fuels https://truthout.org/video/climate-activists-blockade-hq-of-worlds-second-largest-funder-of-fossil-fuels/
[02:41]	TR Bot	 Climate Activists Blockade HQ of Worlds Second-Largest Funder of Fossil Fuels | Truthout
[02:42]	TR News	Dubai deluge likely made worse by warming world, scientists find https://www.cbc.ca/news/climate/dubai-uae-rain-wwa-1.7185054
[02:42]	TR Bot	 Dubai deluge likely made worse by warming world, scientists find | CBC News
[02:42]	TR News	Wege Lecturer says effective climate action is fueled by hope https://record.umich.edu/articles/wege-lecturer-says-effective-climate-action-is-fueled-by-hope/
[02:42]	TR Bot	 Wege Lecturer says effective climate action is fueled by hope | The University Record
[02:42]	TR News	temporary foreign workers https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/temporary-foreign-workers-reduction-rights-permanent-status-1.7155233
[02:42]	TR Bot	 Canada is scaling back temporary foreign workers. Critics say the program needs an overhaul | CBC News
[02:42]	TR News	3 days a week this fall https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/public-servants-office-return-three-days-week-1.7188498
[02:42]	TR Bot	 Federal public servants to return to the office 3 days a week this fall | CBC News
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[02:43]	TR News	Overpopulation causing water crisis https://www.dw.com/en/in-indian-tech-hub-bengaluru-water-crisis-gets-political/a-68961319
[02:43]	TR Bot	Tech hub Bengaluru's water crisis turns political DW 04/30/2024
[02:44]	TR News	EVs lost momentum already https://www.dw.com/en/not-enough-charging-points-for-electric-cars-in-eu-acea/a-68943584
[02:44]	TR Bot	enough charging points for electric cars in EU: ACEA DW 04/29/2024
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[02:47]	TR Bot	 Sask. officials knew COVID-19 was spreading at an 'exponential' rate in 2021, but refused restrictions | CBC News
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[02:57]	TR News	"Been very busy with real life. Hardly any time to get things done." http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/diary/daily/2024-May-5.html.en#2024-May-5-19:00:33
[02:57]	TR Bot	 Been very busy with real life.
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[03:04]	DaemonFC	[20:38] <arkanian> you're the worst
[03:04]	DaemonFC	Not even close.
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[03:07]	DaemonFC	https://law.justia.com/cases/indiana/court-of-appeals/2002/09270202-jgb.html
[03:07]	TR Bot	 Mason v. Mason :: 2002 :: Indiana Court of Appeals Decisions :: Indiana Case Law :: Indiana Law :: US Law :: Justia
[03:08]	DaemonFC	Mason v. Mason established that first cousin marriage in Indiana is legal at any age and whether or not one person is sterile, if the marriage was performed in a place where it is legal.
[03:08]	DaemonFC	So you could go get married in California then come back to Indiana.
[03:08]	DaemonFC	In the case, John Mason argued that his marriage to his first cousin, and wife, was null and void, and therefore she couldn't get a divorce and be awarded anything from him because of Indiana statute.
[03:09]	DaemonFC	But the appeals court ruled against him, and established the legality of the marriage.
[03:09]	DaemonFC	Classic case of people flouting the law when it suits them then arguing the law.
[03:10]	DaemonFC	This is quite common.
[03:11]	DaemonFC	The Indiana Appeals Court ruled under the US Constitution, Article IV, Section 1.
[03:11]	DaemonFC	"Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof."
[03:12]	DaemonFC	At the time, DOMA was in effect, but only applied to same-sex marriages.
[03:12]	DaemonFC	Therefore, Indiana was free to not recognize same-sex marriages performed outside the State, but not marriages to a first cousin.
[03:13]	DaemonFC	Because that marriage was performed in Tennessee, where first cousin marriages are legal.
[03:13]	DaemonFC	Tennessee Statute section 36-1-101
[03:13]	DaemonFC	"Footnote: Indiana Code section 31-11-1-1(b) reads: "A marriage between persons of the same gender is void in Indiana even if the marriage is lawful in the place where it is solemnized.""
[03:14]	DaemonFC	That law has not been repealed.
[03:14]	DaemonFC	However, it's unenforceable because of the SCOTUS decisions in Windsor and Obergefell.
[03:14]	DaemonFC	And probably the Respect for Marriage Act.
[03:14]	DaemonFC	In the latter case, only insofar as not recognizing out of state marriages.
[03:15]	DaemonFC	Those are tricky because at least in Illinois, to get married, at least one person has to be a State resident.
[03:16]	DaemonFC	I suppose the State could just change that law.
[03:17]	DaemonFC	https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/03/style/first-luxury-watch-buyer-guide/index.html
[03:17]	TR Bot	 How to buy your first luxury watch | CNN
[03:17]	DaemonFC	schestowitz: Buying your first luxury watch? Don't like chicken? CNN is the news source for you!
[03:18]	DaemonFC	There is also nothing happening in the world that does not involve Trump fucking a porn star!
[03:18]	DaemonFC	I don't even want to imagine that.
[03:18]	DaemonFC	Whatever she got paid to have his fat sweaty body on top of her, thrusting in and out, was not enough.
[03:18]	DaemonFC	They don't make water hot enough
[03:19]	DaemonFC	Thanks to the Democrats, we all need brain bleach now.
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[03:25]	TR Bot	 Techrights On Character Assassination Tactics
[03:26]	TR News	For misuse of the term "GDPR", see pocock in http://techrights.org/o/2020/08/29/debian-threats-bird-and-bird/ and http://techrights.org/o/2020/08/28/daniel-baumann-experiment/
[03:26]	TR Bot	 Miriam Ballhausen and Debian Money, DebConf Online, Insulting a Volunteer at a Time of Grief
[03:26]	TR Bot	 The Daniel Baumann Experiment: Blackmail, Expulsion, Humiliation, Shaming and Servitude
[03:30]	TR News	There is now an attempt to hijkack about a thousand domains in one fell swoop, courtesy of Google- and Microsoft-funded SPI https://disguised.work/wipo-udrp-response-private-confidential/
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[03:56]	DaemonFC	[20:05] <arkanian> DaemonFC: if the nation of islam is doing that they should be arrested
[03:56]	DaemonFC	They picket the north side and Skokie.
[03:56]	DaemonFC	Because Jews.
[03:56]	DaemonFC	They also don't like gay people you know.
[03:57]	DaemonFC	It's a black supremacist group, headquartered in a black ghetto full of loose cigarette men, bodegas, and all the other stuff you can imagine.
[03:57]	bagiraX	im baffled that you think all abrahamic religions aren't equally bad in their treatment of gays
[03:58]	DaemonFC	Parks that never have any children playing in them because of all the shootings and robberies.
[03:58]	DaemonFC	There are some Protestant churches that are fairly decent to gay people.
[03:58]	bagiraX	you might benefit from a world religions class
[03:58]	DaemonFC	Even the most conservative don't advocate for murder.
[03:58]	bagiraX	and also a history class apparently
[03:59]	DaemonFC	The Christians are much better to gay people than the Muslims are.
[03:59]	DaemonFC	Show me one Muslim group that allows gay marriage, or doesn't want to kill all of us.
[03:59]	DaemonFC	You can't.
[03:59]	bagiraX	weird how you've shifted to christians instead of jews in this context
[03:59]	bagiraX	its like you know youre wrong but can't admit it
[03:59]	DaemonFC	Israel is the most gay friendly country in the region.
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[04:00]	DaemonFC	They even allow your same-sex partner to acquire Israeli citizenship under the Law of Return, even if they have not converted to Judaism.
[04:00]	DaemonFC	The landmark ruling involved a gay Israeli man getting Citizenship for his Catholic spouse.
[04:01]	DaemonFC	Show me any Muslim country where something like that has happened.
[04:01]	DaemonFC	You can't.
[04:01]	DaemonFC	Islam deserves a very special flavor of contempt.
[04:02]	DaemonFC	Because it's a terrorist religion that doesn't recognize any human rights. If you even convert from Islam, they'll fucking kill you.
[04:03]	bagiraX	Cyprus, Turkey, Jordan
[04:04]	bagiraX	now that you're wrong go take those two classes, it'll be eye-opening
[04:05]	DaemonFC	Progressive bigotry against Christianity and Judaism is well known.
[04:06]	DaemonFC	For some reason, they seem to love terrorist Muslims who would kill all of them.
[04:06]	DaemonFC	But Progressives are a very perverse group in all their many evil ways.
[04:06]	bagiraX	it's like you're immune to information
[04:06]	DaemonFC	There's no indication that Islam will ever "evolve" or "become more enlightened".
[04:07]	DaemonFC	There is certainly no "universal homophobia" among Jews and Christians.
[04:07]	DaemonFC	Like there is with Islam.
[04:07]	arkanian	bagiraX: its just fox news talking points
[04:08]	bagiraX	arkanian: i so rarely see one of these interacting in realtime, they have some kind of blind spot that prevents them from ingesting contrary information to their pre-existing dogmatic beliefs not based on reality
[04:08]	DaemonFC	The Middle East, outside of Israel, is just a gas station with a lot of terrorists.
[04:08]	bagiraX	did you see how he skipped over it like it wasn't even said?  its like the filter prevents him from processing the information at all
[04:09]	bagiraX	there should be psychological studies on this, i could see a dissertation or thesis getting high marks for insights into the human psyche it could provide
[04:09]	DaemonFC	I feel sorry for Israel, that they have to endure being geographically close to such a group of fucking barbarians.
[04:09]	arkanian	I agree
[04:09]	DaemonFC	Utterly irredeemable in every single way, the Muslims are.
[04:10]	arkanian	I sometimes wonder if he is just an alt right chatgpt bot
[04:10]	DaemonFC	I am not.
[04:10]	DaemonFC	So go be an open gay or trans person in Iran.
[04:10]	DaemonFC	Or Palestine.
[04:10]	DaemonFC	See how far that gets you.
[04:10]	arkanian	so kill them all?
[04:10]	DaemonFC	Totally illegal, but you won't have to wait for the courts.
[04:11]	bagiraX	the dude is advocating for the military destruction of women and children based on religious or ethnic ties and wonders why people see him like a new kind of nazi
[04:11]	DaemonFC	You'll be murdered well before the govt there does anything.
[04:11]	DaemonFC	[22:10] <arkanian> so kill them all?
[04:11]	DaemonFC	Yes, that's the best outcome, logically speaking.
[04:11]	DaemonFC	It's like mold getting inside your walls.
[04:12]	DaemonFC	You can't take part of the wall out, it's all gotta go.
[04:12]	bagiraX	DaemonFC: do you have tattoos on your face by chance
[04:12]	DaemonFC	No, I despise tattoos.
[04:12]	DaemonFC	They're something that trashy people get.
[04:12]	bagiraX	im trying to figure out if you fit into an existing demographic of degenerates or if you're a new kind
[04:13]	arkanian	Comparing people to mold is kind of dehumanizing
[04:13]	DaemonFC	Comparing Muslims to people is kind of dehumanizing, to the people.
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[04:14]	arkanian	you also said something about shooting venezuelan asylum seekers?
[04:14]	bagiraX	oh this ought to be good
[04:15]	bagiraX	why do i have a feeling all types of brown people fall into many unique categories of "people who should be shot" according to DaemonFC 
[04:15]	DaemonFC	Yeah, 90% of them are criminals and the insane.
[04:15]	bagiraX	there it is
[04:15]	DaemonFC	They have no plans to ever work or pay taxes.
[04:15]	bagiraX	DaemonFC: what about somalians
[04:15]	arkanian	but they're stealing all the jobs
[04:15]	arkanian	schrodingers immigrant
[04:15]	DaemonFC	They're living off us while Pritzker plans to raise my taxes because with the roads looking like fucking bombs got tested on them, we have a billion a year for this fucking garbage that crawled in.
[04:15]	TR News	Vaccine injuries reported https://yewtu.be/channel/UCF9IOB2TExg3QIBupFtBDxg
[04:15]	arkanian	hes both stealing jobs and collecting welfare
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[04:16]	DaemonFC	I never said Venezuelans are stealing jobs. They don't want jobs.
[04:16]	DaemonFC	They want welfare.
[04:16]	DaemonFC	Welfare and organized retail theft.
[04:16]	arkanian	You also say that about Mexicans and Black people
[04:16]	arkanian	And single mothers
[04:16]	bagiraX	yeah i think im getting the picture here
[04:16]	DaemonFC	I like Mexicans a lot more than the Venezuelans and Blacks.
[04:17]	bagiraX	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLJyglKW4AA4i1B?format=jpg&name=900x900
[04:17]	DaemonFC	Most Mexicans have a pair of work boots, and probably won't mug you.
[04:18]	bagiraX	he's a white supremacist
[04:18]	DaemonFC	I'm not.
[04:18]	bagiraX	he just doesn't have the social skills to be an organized member of a white supremacy group
[04:18]	DaemonFC	Neo-Nazis are like Muslims.
[04:18]	DaemonFC	It spreads through the prison system.
[04:18]	DaemonFC	Like AIDS.
[04:19]	bagiraX	what about the neo-nazi rhetoric do you disagree with besides their hatred of gays?
[04:19]	DaemonFC	The unprovoked murder of millions of people.
[04:20]	bagiraX	DaemonFC: i mean, you've spent all night advocating just that based on their ethnic and religious affiliation
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[04:20]	bagiraX	so, im looking for something you -dont- agree with neo-nazis about, not something you obviously and demonstratively do agree with them about
[04:20]	DaemonFC	The Nazis got a lot of things right. Unfortunately, there was the Holocaust.
[04:20]	DaemonFC	You have to look at what led to the Nazis.
[04:21]	bagiraX	anything at all?
[04:21]	DaemonFC	Social rot, inflation, a weak government that was allowing a lot of street crime and was taking money from productive workers to pay as war reparations.
[04:21]	bagiraX	because right now all i hear is "i'd be a nazi if they were nicer to gays"
[04:21]	DaemonFC	They came and said they would clean things up.
[04:21]	DaemonFC	And in many ways, they did.
[04:21]	DaemonFC	They passed generous social welfare programs.
[04:21]	DaemonFC	Spent a lot on infrastructure.
[04:21]	DaemonFC	Uh, neat uniforms.
[04:22]	DaemonFC	They had some of the best scientists in the world at the time, and listened to them, and let them do things.
[04:22]	arkanian	You seem to be against welfare
[04:22]	bagiraX	yeah this just keeps getting wilder
[04:22]	bagiraX	a self-hating nazi
[04:22]	DaemonFC	Welfare is fine. Full employment is a form of welfare.
[04:22]	DaemonFC	Which does not lead into a vicious cycle.
[04:23]	DaemonFC	Dependency on handouts is what "welfare" has turned into.
[04:23]	bagiraX	we got ourselves a genuine Clayton Bigsby, here, folks
[04:23]	DaemonFC	No jobs, just "Here's some food and a free apartment because you managed to fuck and make a bunch more unemployable people who will be a bigger problem in the future!"
[04:23]	arkanian	lol
[04:24]	arkanian	people are born unemployable
[04:24]	bagiraX	DaemonFC on his days off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLNDqxrUUwQ
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[04:24]	DaemonFC	[22:24] <arkanian> people are born unemployable
[04:24]	DaemonFC	Yeah, it's called the ghetto.
[04:24]	arkanian	its part of that whole unemployment gene
[04:25]	DaemonFC	No jobs, never will be jobs, just more FREE SHIT from the Democrats.
[04:25]	DaemonFC	Go make more people for this mess.
[04:25]	DaemonFC	Have the place get even more violent and full of drugs.
[04:25]	DaemonFC	Generational poverty, brought to you by Pritzker.
[04:25]	arkanian	bagiraX: the weird thing is, hes here 24/7 ranting about other races all day so I don't think he works either
[04:25]	DaemonFC	And all those like him and which preceded him.
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[04:27]	TR News	Salesforce Cuts 700 Jobs in Latest Big Tech Layoff
[04:28]	TR News	Google to relocate some US jobs to India and Mexico https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/06/apac_in_brief/
[04:28]	TR Bot	 Google to relocate some US jobs to India, reportedly The Register
[04:29]	TR News	Google's debt is about 4 times less than Apple's and 4 times less than Microsoft's https://finbox.com/NASDAQGS:GOOGL/explorer/total_debt
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[04:30]	TR News	Moments ago: "IBM is out of cash, and they have cut so much stuff over the years that they no longer have any working room to cook the books and keep staff. Even a morbidly obese person can lose weight to the point of starving to death if they don't get enough calories." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1snuSpun
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[04:31]	DaemonFC	Throwing more money into the ghetto each month.
[04:31]	DaemonFC	And.....it's still a ghetto.
[04:31]	DaemonFC	You give a white man bricks, he'll build you civilization, you give the black people a civilization (South Africa?) they'll leave you with bricks.
[04:31]	TR News	"It's only going to get worse until IBM finally collapses. IBM is a 20-30k employee company that employs 10 times that many, even after selling off most of its lines of business." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1snaakHH
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[04:32]	DaemonFC	Perhaps no country has been a better example of going from decent to an outright shithole so quickly as South Africa after Apartheid ended.
[04:32]	DaemonFC	Violent crime is bad, litter flying around everywhere, carjackings everywhere, rolling power blackouts, farms with EVERYTHING on them dying, and hyperinflated currency.
[04:33]	TR News	"this is why IBM has so many internal applications from Indian programmers and they do not integrate with one another, if at all. The IBM CEO is a joke - he has been incapable when it comes to using AI to clean up the application mess that has been going on for 20+ years." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1sm3ZKEH
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[04:33]	DaemonFC	Their GDP is apparently now "being bought by Russia and China to complain about Israel at the UN".
[04:33]	DaemonFC	Because their country is a fucking hellhole that has been rotten and had the guts scooped out of it by the ANC.
[04:33]	DaemonFC	And now the ANC is fixing to be replaced by a coalition of Black Communists.
[04:34]	DaemonFC	So, in another 20 years no rolling blackouts.
[04:34]	DaemonFC	Probably no power at all.
[04:34]	TR News	Gitlab Inc paid back 1 billion dollar in debt this past year. Where did that money come from? https://finbox.com/NASDAQGS:GTLB/explorer/total_debt
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[04:35]	DaemonFC	Seizing the means of production only works if the people seizing it know how to do anything with it.
[04:35]	TR News	OldeR: https://www.reuters.com/technology/gitlab-shares-drop-less-conservative-forecast-disappoints-investors-2024-03-05/
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[04:35]	DaemonFC	See; Rotting crops and dead farm animals.
[04:36]	TR News	Last spring: Gitlab loses one-third of its value after company issues weak forecast https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/13/gitlab-gtlb-earnings-q4-2023.html
[04:36]	TR Bot	 GitLab (GTLB) earnings Q4 2023
[04:37]	DaemonFC	The failure of South Africa is that they didn't want to learn how to run the factories and the farms and the power plants.
[04:37]	TR News	Also last year: GitLab's Losses Nearly Doubled in 3 Years, Do You Want Your Project to Rely on This Company? https://techrights.org/n/2023/10/22/GitLab_s_Losses_Nearly_Doubled_in_3_Years_Do_You_Want_Your_Proj.shtml
[04:37]	TR Bot	 Techrights GitLab's Losses Nearly Doubled in 3 Years, Do You Want Your Project to Rely on This Company?
[04:37]	DaemonFC	They only wanted to steal them because "social justice".
[04:37]	DaemonFC	Then like a dog that catches the car, they had no Earthly idea what to do once they had it.
[04:38]	DaemonFC	Meanwhile, they drove the people they stole from into suicide.
[04:38]	DaemonFC	So now there's nobody to even ask if they wanted to.
[04:39]	DaemonFC	If they had kept Mandela in prison and kept running it the way it was, things would be a lot better now.
[04:40]	bagiraX	he's gotta be trolling
[04:40]	bagiraX	i dont believe anyone is that stupid
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[04:42]	DaemonFC	bagiraX: You've literally seen South Africa fall apart in your lifetime like I have.
[04:42]	DaemonFC	Letting Mandela out of prison was the first domino to fall.
[04:44]	DaemonFC	And of course, the Hollyweirdos make movies idealizing the end of apartheid, like the country was getting better, or ever healed. The only white South African I know personally is drinking himself to death and shitting blood and doesn't even care because the ANC has fucked the country up so badly that unemployment is over a third of the country, and white people can't even apply for a lot of the work that still does exist.
[04:45]	DaemonFC	This is the future of America if the Democrats stay in power much longer.
[04:45]	bagiraX	DaemonFC: so what kind of drugs do you take?
[04:46]	DaemonFC	Coffee, of the coffee variety, not the evil stuff.
[04:46]	bagiraX	you don't smoke a little weed, maybe drop a little acid?
[04:46]	bagiraX	maybe a little crystal?
[04:46]	DaemonFC	I hate weed. Refer to earlier when I said the feds should come in and ziptie everyone and burn the dispensaries.
[04:48]	bagiraX	you don't take any drugs at all?
[04:48]	DaemonFC	Weed turns people into drooling vegetables, but to be honest, most of the people who start smoking it regularly weren't far from it to begin with.
[04:48]	DaemonFC	When I say I have plans, I mean, other than masturbating and eating cheetos and smoking marijuana.
[04:52]	bagiraX	yeah something doesn't check out there
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[04:52]	arkanian	bagiraX: he could be a troll
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[04:55]	TR News	US debt today: 99.992 trillion https://www.usdebtclock.org/ 100 trillion tomorrow? Wednesday? Later?
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[05:00]	TR News	Techrights GitLab's Losses Grew From $172,311,000 to $424,174,000 Per Annum http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/GitLab_s_Losses_Grew_From_172_311_000_to_424_174_000_Per_Annum.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/GitLab_s_Losses_Grew_From_172_311_000_to_424_174_000_Per_Annum.gmi 
[05:00]	TR Bot	 Techrights GitLab's Losses Grew From $172,311,000 to $424,174,000 Per Annum
[05:00]	bagiraX	thats like two staff members
[05:00]	bagiraX	1 really
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[05:28]	TR News	bribery case https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/snc-lavalin-executive-prison-1.7183642
[05:28]	TR Bot	 Former SNC-Lavalin executive sentenced to prison term in Montreal bridge bribery case | CBC News
[05:30]	TR News	slight upturn? more than inflation? https://www.dw.com/en/germany-s-economy-shows-slight-upturn-raising-hopes/a-68958005
[05:30]	TR Bot	economy shows slight upturn, raising hopes DW 04/30/2024
[05:31]	DaemonFC	bagiraX: You really want to see the fucking trash and stupidity we live in?
[05:31]	DaemonFC	Read the product reviews on Walmart and Amazon.
[05:32]	TR News	Burkina Faso blocks DW website over massacre coverage https://www.dw.com/en/burkina-faso-blocks-dw-website-over-massacre-coverage/a-68951402
[05:32]	TR Bot	Faso blocks DW website over massacre coverage DW 04/29/2024
[05:32]	DaemonFC	All the people on Amazon that can't figure out you pour liquids into your car using funnels going "I got this Gumout all over the ground and the side of my truck!"
[05:32]	DaemonFC	What a bunch of feebs.
[05:33]	TR News	Why Burkina Faso is muzzling foreign media https://www.dw.com/en/why-burkina-faso-is-muzzling-foreign-media/a-68952181
[05:33]	TR Bot	Burkina Faso is muzzling foreign media DW 04/29/2024
[05:35]	bagiraX	i can't find any value this person contributed to humanity
[05:37]	bagiraX	DaemonFC: are you "Prescott Computer Guy"?
[05:38]	DaemonFC	No.
[05:39]		*DaemonFC fires a spud canon at bagiraX
[05:39]	TR News	Did China cover up a swim team doping scandal? https://www.dw.com/en/did-china-cover-up-a-swim-team-doping-scandal/a-68891225 do not ask questions as headlines. Answer your own questions.
[05:39]	TR Bot	China cover up a swim team doping scandal? DW 04/23/2024
[05:42]	bagiraX	DaemonFC: no it goes /in the bag/.  next time we have to tell you this will come up at your performance review.  thanks for your submission of feedback to the Lay's Chip Factory HR Office.
[05:44]	bagiraX	"nobnody wants to work anymore"
[05:45]		*DaemonFC puts some hairspray and another potato in and aims for bagiraX....ohhh, right in the balls.
[05:45]	DaemonFC	I got your bag right here!
[05:45]	bagiraX	i dont believe you have access to cash to buy hair spray
[05:46]	bagiraX	so whats the deal with you btw?  are you disabled or on workman's comp or something?
[05:47]	DaemonFC	I'm on yo momma.
[05:47]	bagiraX	prettttty sure you're unemployed
[05:53]	bagiraX	ya got that "dishwasher from 5-9 at a buffet" kinda vibe goin
[05:55]	TR News	Shopping showdown what's greener, plastic or paper? https://www.dw.com/en/shopping-showdown-what-s-greener-plastic-or-paper/a-68750514
[05:55]	TR Bot	showdown what's greener, plastic or paper? DW 04/24/2024
[05:59]	DaemonFC	bagiraX: How do you feel about South Africa's genocide committed by Thabo Mbeki?
[05:59]	DaemonFC	He was the President and between 2000-2005 he kept AIDS drugs out of the country and caused 350,000 deaths.
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[06:00]	TR News	Rapper Toomaj Salehi sentenced to death https://www.dw.com/en/iran-rapper-toomaj-salehi-sentenced-to-death-says-lawyer/a-68910900
[06:00]	TR Bot	Rapper Toomaj Salehi sentenced to death, says lawyer DW 04/24/2024
[06:00]	DaemonFC	Do you think that a country so backwards and with so much blood on its hands should be complaining about anyone?
[06:00]	bagiraX	to answer that i'd have to teach you the difference between genocide and medical policy failure
[06:01]	DaemonFC	He's still alive.
[06:01]	DaemonFC	Should they turn Mbeki over to be tried and hanged?
[06:01]	bagiraX	you're going to have to accept the fact that the people who pay taxes just aren't able to have certain conversations with you until you fix your problem
[06:01]	DaemonFC	He's an AIDS denier.
[06:01]	DaemonFC	That's not a "policy failure".
[06:02]	DaemonFC	Should Mbeki go on trial for costing 350,000 people their lives with the deliberate actions he took in promotion of his bullshit?
[06:02]	DaemonFC	And is this the country and (same) political party that should be complaining about Israel a few years later?
[06:02]	DaemonFC	The ANC is responsible for a holocaust.
[06:03]	DaemonFC	They're full of bullshitters and quacks and criminals and frauds.
[06:04]	DaemonFC	The drugs were being offered largely by the United States, for free, through PEPFAR, and could have saved almost 100% of those people.
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[06:04]	DaemonFC	The ANC and South African government chose to let 350,000 people die, and they did it deliberately.
[06:04]	DaemonFC	Refusing free medicine from the United States.
[06:04]	DaemonFC	Which is premeditated mass murder.
[06:04]	bagiraX	this is why stupid people shouldn't be in charge
[06:05]	bagiraX	western medicine's credibility is at an alltime low
[06:05]	DaemonFC	So Mbeki should be put on trial as a genocidal monster?
[06:05]	bagiraX	we have a credibility crisis in most expert fields
[06:05]	bagiraX	nope
[06:05]	DaemonFC	Is 350,000 dead a genocide?
[06:05]	bagiraX	no, not necessarily, even if it is bad
[06:05]	DaemonFC	Surely less "Palestinians" are dead, after they started a war with a terrorist attack.
[06:06]	bagiraX	that civilian family being executed in front of their ancestral home is not involved in that attack, that's just the convenient misrepresnetation you've chosen to hide the evil
[06:06]	DaemonFC	But the 350,000 people who Mbeki/ANC let die of AIDS, refusing free help, didn't attack anyone.
[06:06]	DaemonFC	They were not terrorists.
[06:06]	bagiraX	nope
[06:06]	DaemonFC	South Africa is a genocidal country.
[06:06]	bagiraX	intent is a big aspect of morality
[06:07]	DaemonFC	They intended to let those people die.
[06:07]	DaemonFC	Because AIDS Denialism is such obvious bullshit.
[06:07]	DaemonFC	It has been thoroughly debunked.
[06:07]	DaemonFC	Decades before Mbeki used it.
[06:07]	bagiraX	if you have proof that he knew, you might have a case
[06:08]	DaemonFC	In addition to the 350,000 dead, there are an estimated 35,000 babies that were born with HIV due to their parents not being given medication.
[06:08]	DaemonFC	And they'll never be cured.
[06:08]	bagiraX	it's an awful thing
[06:08]	DaemonFC	They should shoot Mbeki and apologize before they ask the ICC to go after Netanyahu.
[06:09]	DaemonFC	Him and all his ANC cronies that participated.
[06:09]	bagiraX	i'd tell you what "mens rea" is but you don't seem like it's at your reading level
[06:09]	DaemonFC	Drag him out and shoot him.
[06:09]	DaemonFC	The evidence is irrefutable.
[06:10]	DaemonFC	Oh, they should have the trial first, but if it's a fair trial they'll have to shoot him when it's over.
[06:10]	DaemonFC	Because the evidence is very damning.
[06:10]	DaemonFC	And it wasn't that long after Mandela, who should have been left in prison, was out of office.
[06:11]	DaemonFC	If they left Mandela in prison, the 350,000 people might not be dead.
[06:11]	DaemonFC	It was his political party that killed those people with AIDS denialism and not even letting them decide whether they would take the medicine or not.
[06:11]	bagiraX	so your argument is that some warcrimes should be acceptable because some not warcrimes were not treated as warcrimes
[06:12]	DaemonFC	I'm saying that the ANC and South Africa situation is what happens when terrorists become the government.
[06:12]	DaemonFC	Then they have the audacity to complain about anyone else.
[06:12]	bagiraX	no that issue was caused by ignorance and crumbling credibility in expert fields
[06:12]	DaemonFC	When only Hitler and some Communist uprisings killed more people than Mbeki.
[06:12]	DaemonFC	:)
[06:13]	DaemonFC	The Holocaust and some Communist famines killed millions. Mbeki "only" killed 350,000.
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[06:13]	DaemonFC	So he's a criminal, a really really bad one, but not the worst ever.
[06:13]	DaemonFC	There should be a hearing at the ICC, and warrants issued.
[06:13]	DaemonFC	For Mbeki and the ANC.
[06:13]	bagiraX	i mean, sure, but they'll have to prove intent
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[06:14]	DaemonFC	The ICC has a lot of experience with shithole countries that can't manage their internal affairs and mass murder their own citizens.
[06:14]	bagiraX	those processes aren't "when daemonFC feels bad about something" they're about trying criminal actions
[06:14]	DaemonFC	Send Mbeki and the ANC to them.
[06:14]	bagiraX	maybe leave the politics to the paying customers eh?
[06:15]	bagiraX	things always get weird when the help starts having opinions
[06:15]	DaemonFC	The ICC should be looking at basically a couple of things right now.
[06:15]	DaemonFC	Russian war crimes, the ANC, and a few other things.
[06:15]	TR News	Edmonton police seeing no further extortion of South Asian businesses as investigation continues https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/no-further-extortion-of-south-asian-businesses-as-investigation-continues-police-say-1.7183935
[06:15]	DaemonFC	But not Israel.
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[06:15]	bagiraX	lol
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[06:16]	bagiraX	(paraphrasing) "<DaemonFC> the whiter people (not you russians) need to be vindicated so we can process the brown people!"
[06:16]	DaemonFC	Russia is a terrorist state.
[06:16]	bagiraX	dude have you ever even been to russia
[06:17]	DaemonFC	It's dangerous.
[06:17]	DaemonFC	They frequently fabricate "drug smuggling" charges.
[06:17]	DaemonFC	In some way, North Korea is safer for Americans.
[06:17]	bagiraX	no, it's not, and if you go out into the rural areas you're going to find godfearing people much like those you'd find in the foresty areas of tennessee and virginia 
[06:19]	bagiraX	almost everything you say is regurgitated military culture propaganda used to help our soldiers do unthinkable things and has no basis in reality except to serve as a psychological crutch for the boys we're going to break by making them do those things
[06:20]	bagiraX	"these brown people did a dumb thing that killed alot of people so these whiter people who are targeting civilians with their military shouldn't be tried for warcrimes in the hague"
[06:21]	bagiraX	your entire worldview seems to be sewn together from every shitty opinion you've come across along the way to get here
[06:24]	bagiraX	id wager to say given where you are
[06:24]	bagiraX	and given the context of this channel
[06:25]	bagiraX	that what you actually are is some kind of agitation presence
[06:25]	bagiraX	and that almost nothing you've expressed here is genuine
[06:28]	TR News	Burkina Faso dismisses HRW massacre report as 'baseless' https://www.dw.com/en/burkina-faso-dismisses-hrw-massacre-report-as-baseless/a-68942786
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[06:32]	DaemonFC	An AIDS denier running a country where almost a quarter of the population has HIV is not a good thing.
[06:33]	schestowitz	which country?
[06:33]	DaemonFC	South Africa (under Mbeki)
[06:33]	DaemonFC	He banned the importation of medicine for five years and let 350,000 die.
[06:33]	DaemonFC	Only reason it didn't continue was the Supreme Court ruled against him.
[06:36]	DaemonFC	My point is, they're the last people to give a morality lesson to anyone after that.
[06:36]	DaemonFC	But nobody talks about Mbeki's genocide because black country.
[06:36]	bagiraX	have you considerd the possibility that you just don't know what genocide is
[06:37]	bagiraX	or how criminal justice in general works
[06:37]	DaemonFC	Half don't care (because black), the other half won't let you talk about it (because black).
[06:37]	bagiraX	i think that you do know and that this is all an elaborate troll
[06:37]	bagiraX	i have difficulty thinking anybody is that stupid
[06:37]	DaemonFC	Much the same thing played out under the Reagan Administration in the US.
[06:38]	DaemonFC	They laughed and called it the "gay plague" or the 4H disease. "Homosexuals and Haitians" being emphasized.
[06:38]	DaemonFC	They wanted those groups dead.
[06:38]	DaemonFC	And they didn't lift a finger until many were dead, even when there was one treatment that worked.
[06:40]	DaemonFC	AIDS is a "blameless holocaust" because it lets politicians that WANT its primary victims to die to stand around doing nothing, laughing, or denying it exists at all.
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[06:41]	DaemonFC	Once Reagan was out of the way, a federal program was passed, and very few died of AIDS afterwards.
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[06:42]	bagiraX	have you looked up the definition of genocide yet to help you understand why your position is stupid
[06:43]	DaemonFC	 What would you call deliberately doing nothing while a virus you were perfectly capable of stopping wiped out your most stigmatized populations?
[06:43]	bagiraX	you have failed to demonstrate intent
[06:43]	DaemonFC	The act alone was criminal.
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[06:44]	DaemonFC	And the level of stupidity required in order to absolve you of "intent" is implausible.
[06:44]	bagiraX	right like i said leave criminality discussions up to the taxpayers
[06:44]	DaemonFC	(Mbeki)
[06:45]	DaemonFC	You could very easily establish intent with Mbeki.
[06:45]	DaemonFC	Give him a general IQ test.
[06:45]	bagiraX	yet here you are failing to establish it
[06:46]	bagiraX	i can tell you why if you want
[06:46]	bagiraX	it's because you're racist
[06:46]	DaemonFC	Intent involves that a person of reasonable intelligence (which I'm assuming Mbeki is) would not fail to grasp the serious nature of HIV.
[06:46]	DaemonFC	And that he did therefore act knowingly and deliberately.
[06:47]	bagiraX	lol your argument for establishing intent is intelligence lol
[06:47]	bagiraX	man oh man
[06:47]	bagiraX	yeah you can't possibly be employed
[06:47]	DaemonFC	Reasonable intelligence, in a position to do something, did nothing.
[06:47]	DaemonFC	Therefore, criminal.
[06:47]	bagiraX	lol
[06:47]	bagiraX	that's not how -any of this works-
[06:48]	bagiraX	smart people overlook shit all the time and form stupid understandings of problems all the time
[06:48]	bagiraX	particularly in governments
[06:48]	DaemonFC	In 2000, it was well understood and accepted what HIV was.
[06:48]	bagiraX	having a certain level of IQ doesn't exempt anyone from that base quality of the human condition
[06:50]	DaemonFC	Where I am, intent can involve that knowingly doing something that will likely involve death makes you responsible for that death.
[06:50]	bagiraX	yes it does, but since you don't understand criminal justice you are conflating a charge of negligent manslaughter with murder
[06:50]	DaemonFC	It is impossible for a reasonably intelligent person to (1) Not know that HIV causes AIDS (in the year 2000), claim that AIDS Denialism had merit while everyone who got the medicine lived and all these people without medicine were dying.
[06:51]	DaemonFC	(2) claim that this was not a malicious act (preventing them from even choosing for themselves whether to take free medicine)
[06:52]	bagiraX	was that before or after vaccine-jacketed sterilization swept africa, and are you aware that nationstates have intelligence arms that advise their leadership
[06:52]	DaemonFC	(3) refute the fact that because of this, approximately 350,000 people died and about a tenth as many are now living with HIV or AIDS as a consequence of being born to a mother who had it.
[06:53]	bagiraX	you gave it a good try but a dumb opinion can't be made into a not-dumb opinion by typing more
[06:54]	DaemonFC	So why did he need to block the medicine for 5 years?
[06:54]	DaemonFC	Why couldn't people decide for themselves whether to take it or not?
[06:54]	DaemonFC	It's not like it's some street drug that kills people and causes traffic accidents or something.
[06:55]	bagiraX	https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7887903/#:~:text=In%20Africa%2C%20a%20study%20in,health%20professionals%20towards%20these%20women.
[06:55]	TR Bot	 Experiences of forced sterilisation and coercion to sterilise among women living with HIV (WLHIV) in Namibia: an analysis of the psychological and socio-cultural effects - PMC
[06:56]	DaemonFC	https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/nov/26/aids-south-africa
[06:56]	TR Bot	 Mbeki Aids denial 'caused 300,000 deaths' | South Africa | The Guardian
[06:57]	DaemonFC	"South Africa has one of the severest HIV/Aids epidemics in the world. About 5.5 million people, or 18.8% of the adult population, have HIV, according to the UN. In 2005, there were about 900 deaths a day. "
[06:57]	DaemonFC	That was 15 years ago, but it certainly hasn't improved much.
[06:57]	bagiraX	essentially this whole argument is summed up to "white guy with no understanding of the external threats south africa faces, doesn't know what genocide is and uses the term as a national security measure against western medical facilitators sterilizing them during an aids epidemic"
[06:58]	DaemonFC	It's thought that white countries (at the time) got HIV/AIDS because South Africa was a British colony.
[06:58]	DaemonFC	And they were fucking cheap hookers and taking a little something home with them.
[06:58]	bagiraX	IN ALL FAIRNESS, your dumb argument is at least consistent with your admission earlier to having almost every shared value with a neo-nazi besides the fact that they target homosexuals
[06:58]	DaemonFC	Africa is a pretty awful place from top to bottom.
[06:58]	DaemonFC	There's this leftist fetish fantasy of it being a robust and vibrant continent.
[06:59]	DaemonFC	When it's pretty much crime, corruption, and AIDS from top to bottom.
[06:59]	bagiraX	gee i wonder why
● May 06
[07:00]	DaemonFC	There's really only two reasons I wouldn't vote for Donald Trump.
[07:00]	DaemonFC	His position on gays and LEGAL immigrants.
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[07:00]	DaemonFC	Other than that, hell yeah I'd vote for him and send everyone else running and screaming.
[07:00]	bagiraX	why do you think anyone cares who you'll vote for
[07:00]	bagiraX	im not even convinced you're allowed to vote
[07:01]	DaemonFC	But at least I admit that I'll vote for a shit sandwich (Biden) and I have my own selfish reasons to not want Trump.
[07:01]	DaemonFC	Why wouldn't I be allowed to vote?
[07:01]	bagiraX	because people who say the shit you say are almost always not allowed to vote by the time they're 35
[07:01]	DaemonFC	In this State, the only people above 18 who are not allowed to vote are actually in prison. They even let people in county jail vote, just not prison.
[07:02]	bagiraX	oh so its not that you're not a felon but that illinois lets felons vote
[07:02]	DaemonFC	They bring voting machines into the county jails and let anyone doing less than a year vote.
[07:02]	DaemonFC	I'm not a felon.
[07:02]	bagiraX	well
[07:02]	bagiraX	you will be eventually, statistically
[07:02]	DaemonFC	I was just mentioning that they let almost anyone who is not currently in the state pen vote.
[07:03]	DaemonFC	Don't vote by mail though.
[07:03]	DaemonFC	As soon as they see you vote for Republicans they throw your ballot in the trash and say your signature didn't match.
[07:03]	DaemonFC	And you have to come in and "cure" it in the end anyway.
[07:04]	DaemonFC	They let me vote every election until I marked "Darren Bailey" then all of a sudden there was "something wrong with his signature".
[07:05]	DaemonFC	That's how Democrats run elections. They bitch about Trump and the threat to democracy while they're trying to throw their opponents in jail, or hit them with $40,000 in fines over a car they parked on their lawn that they didn't even know was a problem and they're in there trashing your ballot if you vote for someone else.
[07:05]	bagiraX	are you communicating with this chat from prison right now
[07:05]	DaemonFC	I am not.
[07:05]	bagiraX	do you have a job
[07:06]	DaemonFC	When I lived in another town there was this Libertarian guy on the ballot. And you voted for three town commissioners. Well, the three Democrats decided they didn't want you to be able to choose who was on the town board.
[07:06]	bagiraX	he's got no job
[07:07]	DaemonFC	So they informed him he owed the town $40,000 in fines over a car he parked on his own property and couldn't be on the ballot.
[07:07]	bagiraX	DaemonFC: when was the last time you worked?
[07:08]	DaemonFC	Do you think that throwing people's votes away and removing people from the ballot in this manner is "democracy"?
[07:08]	DaemonFC	Because I don't.
[07:08]	bagiraX	mail-in votes aren't votes as far as im concerned
[07:08]	bagiraX	neither are votes that don't require ID
[07:09]	DaemonFC	The polling place is across the street from my house.
[07:09]	DaemonFC	I suppose I should just go over there.
[07:09]	bagiraX	see if they can give you a job
[07:09]	DaemonFC	The way "election judge" works is this.
[07:10]	DaemonFC	You have the Democrat, and a Democrat that lied and said they were a Republican.
[07:10]	DaemonFC	And then they sit there and agree to challenge all the ballots where the voter picked Republicans.
[07:11]	DaemonFC	Illinois has no "voter ID", so all the illegal aliens and dead people vote.
[07:12]	DaemonFC	But then if you're a middle-aged white guy with no tattoos who pulls his pants up, they say "I don't believe you're you. Let's see some ID, buster."
[07:12]	TR News	"This post describes how I exported my 500+ YouTube subscriptions to an OPML file so that I could import them into my RSS reader." https://www.wezm.net/v2/posts/2024/youtube-subscriptions-opml/ | Source: Wesley Moore
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[07:19]	DaemonFC	bagiraX: My ideal life would be living thousands of miles away from anyone else, ignoring them completely, and having plenty of provisions.
[07:20]	DaemonFC	Think, Walter White's cabin, almost.
[07:20]	bagiraX	you don't get that so you have to get a job
[07:20]	DaemonFC	The outside world really doesn't have much that I want.
[07:20]	TR News	Stop Killing Games https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/05/uk-government-replies-to-petition-about-requiring-publishers-to-keep-games-working/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[07:20]	bagiraX	im not being mean, i just pay fed tax so technically im subsidizing your jobless lifestyle and i dont want to be
[07:20]	TR Bot	Government replies to petition about requiring publishers to keep games working | GamingOnLinux
[07:21]	TR News	"With Valve recently releasing Proton 9, as the latest major update to the Windows compatibility layer for Linux / Steam Deck, there were some download issues that should now be solved" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/05/steam-pc-and-steam-deck-beta-released-solving-proton-9-download-issues/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
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[07:21]	DaemonFC	bagiraX: It costs $100,000 a year to keep one person in prison, so even if your theory was true, I'd cost a lot less than that, being not in prison.
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[07:22]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Games: Stop Killing Games, Steam, HELLDIVERS 2
[07:22]	DaemonFC	Anyway, that's also a good argument for getting carried away with the death penalty.
[07:22]	TR News	"The Radxa ROCK 5 ITX is an ARM-based computer featuring a Mini-ITX motherboard powered by an octa-core Rockchip" https://linuxgizmos.com/rock-5-itx-now-featuring-lpddr5-support-and-dual-2-5gbe-ports/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
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[07:22]	DaemonFC	Just one criminal can cost you $4 million to warehouse.
[07:22]	DaemonFC	And some are too dangerous to allow to live.
[07:24]	DaemonFC	bagiraX: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiAyX9q4GIQ
[07:24]	TR Bot	https://yt.oelrichsgarcia.de/watch?v=qiAyX9q4GIQ
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[07:24]	bagiraX	https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/job#Etymology_1
[07:24]	TR Bot	 job - Wiktionary, the free dictionary
[07:24]	TR News	"While Windows and Mac users have access to popular email clients like Outlook, Linux users dont." https://www.unixmen.com/8-best-linux-email-clients-for-2024/ | Source: Unix Men
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[07:25]	bagiraX	i used outlook for years on linux, they are cray-cray
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[07:29]	DaemonFC	I think that you and I only see eye to eye on one thing, and that's Mr. Evil Coffee.
[07:29]	bagiraX	i think you should get a job and not have so many opinions
[07:29]	DaemonFC	I can have all the opinions I want.
[07:29]	DaemonFC	This isn't fucking Canada.
[07:29]	bagiraX	you can, but, you shouldn't
[07:30]	bagiraX	some people should have more opinions than others
[07:30]	bagiraX	some less
[07:30]	bagiraX	you should have less
[07:30]	DaemonFC	Well, it doesn't really matter what you think.
[07:30]	bagiraX	sure it does
[07:30]	bagiraX	im not you ya know
[07:31]	DaemonFC	I do what I will, when I will, and however much of it I decide to do.
[07:31]	bagiraX	sounds like you'll fit in fine with the neo-nazis in prison
[07:31]	DaemonFC	Over what?
[07:32]	DaemonFC	Orderly Conduct?
[07:32]	bagiraX	nah man, this all has "monster energy drink on my 15 minute break between rushes at the buffet kitchen" vibes all over it.  i was wrong about facial tattoos, but, there's still time.
[07:33]	DaemonFC	I don't drink energy drinks.
[07:33]	DaemonFC	They're a fucking disgusting habit.
[07:33]	bagiraX	you don't work either
[07:33]	DaemonFC	Not as bad as losers and criminals who smoke marijuana.
[07:33]	DaemonFC	But energy drinks taste like I'd imagine battery acid mixed 50/50 with piss would.
[07:34]	DaemonFC	You know I take that back. I did drink Java Monsters for a while.
[07:34]	DaemonFC	Those were not revolting.
[07:35]	bagiraX	how long has it been since you've had a regular employer
[07:36]	DaemonFC	As opposed to an irregular one?
[07:37]	DaemonFC	Needs more fiber?
[07:37]	DaemonFC	I've thought that about some of my bosses before.
[07:37]	DaemonFC	There was this one guy, named Vince.
[07:38]	DaemonFC	He looked like the second pick for Bill Limbergh from Office Space.
[07:38]	DaemonFC	Same mannerisms, same clothes, aviator glasses.
[07:38]	bagiraX	so you have worked before
[07:38]	DaemonFC	Oh that fucker followed me like I was the only person there.
[07:39]	bagiraX	how long did it last before he fired you
[07:39]	DaemonFC	When I figured out how to do 185% of their productivity benchmark.
[07:39]	DaemonFC	Round about, but consistently.
[07:39]	DaemonFC	He said he knew I was cheating somehow.
[07:39]	DaemonFC	So he followed me around for months and never did figure it out.
[07:39]	DaemonFC	Because I wasn't.
[07:39]	DaemonFC	It drove him crazy though.
[07:40]	DaemonFC	When he couldn't "figure out how he's cheating", he started trying to see if I was doing anything "unsafe".
[07:40]	DaemonFC	And he still didn't get anything.
[07:40]	DaemonFC	bagiraX: The entire company failed.
[07:40]	bagiraX	did they get sued for your work product
[07:40]	DaemonFC	It's not there anymore.
[07:41]	DaemonFC	No, they didn't.
[07:41]	bagiraX	was that your last job
[07:41]	DaemonFC	If they had me retrain people on how to work more efficiently, they could have fired 60% of the workers in the building.
[07:41]	DaemonFC	They'd probably still exist.
[07:42]	DaemonFC	That's what happens when you're smarter than your boss, and they pay him several times what they do to pay attention to you in a building of 300 people, most of whom are fucking around because there's no supervisor on them.
[07:42]	DaemonFC	Shitty management.
[07:42]	DaemonFC	Inefficiency.
[07:42]	DaemonFC	Company fails.
[07:43]	DaemonFC	They deserved it.
[07:43]	DaemonFC	There were other employers that failed.
[07:44]	DaemonFC	One made a deal with Walmart, let them dictate where they sourced their product, and then Walmart went and negotiated with the supplier once they made the product, to make the same product, cut that company out, change the name and model number on the package.
[07:44]	DaemonFC	The CEO was too stupid to realize that once Walmart told them to outsource to China, Walmart would go around him and destroy his company.
[07:45]	DaemonFC	Then there was another one.
[07:46]	DaemonFC	It failed because of the 2008 recession like the one with the supervisor that was on me constantly.
[07:46]	bagiraX	how long ago was your last job
[07:46]	DaemonFC	That one was linked inextricably to the housing market.
[07:47]	bagiraX	has it been more than 5 years since you worked?
[07:47]	DaemonFC	Oh I can rattle them off like bad landlords at this point.
[07:48]	DaemonFC	schestowitz said HE had an idiot for a boss.
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[07:49]	DaemonFC	I think the shortest one I had was only a couple of weeks. I did not like that one at all and just walked out.
[07:49]	DaemonFC	But some went on for years.
[07:49]	DaemonFC	The one that went on for a couple weeks was a rent to own store.
[07:50]	DaemonFC	You do not want to deal with the people that go in there, trust me.
[07:50]	DaemonFC	Half your job ends up being waiting on the police to arrive to get some rednecks to give you some furniture back.
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[07:51]	DaemonFC	I picked up the phone one day and it was a guy who made one payment on a bedroom set who was mad and wanted a new bedroom set. The one and only payment he made was 4 months before that and the prosecutor was involved now. (conversion)
[07:52]	DaemonFC	He was mad because his bedroom set was destroyed because the tenant above from him rented a portable washing machine from us and it overflowed and rained water all over his bedroom set and ruined it.
[07:53]	bagiraX	how long ago was your last one
[07:53]	DaemonFC	Then they sent me out to grab a full sized washer and a couch out of some woman's trailer, and when we got back, a bunch of cockroaches came pouring out.
[07:53]	DaemonFC	And I had to go grab a can of raid and spray them.
[07:56]	DaemonFC	bagiraX: The only reason I cared how fast I worked at the one with the boss that followed me around was because the Performance Incentive basically doubled my pay.
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[07:57]	DaemonFC	If it hadn't been for that or that I got so many vacation days I would never have put up with that dickhead.
[07:58]	DaemonFC	Most bosses see that you work hard and either give you more work, or if it costs them something, they want to know "how you're cheating".
[07:58]	DaemonFC	Because they had "experts" who don't even do that job figure out how long it takes.
[07:58]	DaemonFC	That job involved really long sets of numbers.
[07:58]	DaemonFC	And identifying them quickly.
[07:59]	DaemonFC	Something that I can easily do.
[07:59]	TR News	"Josh and Kurt talk about a sudo replacement going into systemd called run0." https://opensourcesecurity.io/2024/05/05/episode-427-will-run0-replace-sudo/
[07:59]	TR Bot	 Episode 427 Will run0 replace sudo? Open Source Security
[07:59]	DaemonFC	So before I even reached the target I already knew which order to do each movement in.
● May 06
[08:00]	DaemonFC	I got it down to where I could work nearly twice as fast as anyone else because I had a system.
[08:00]	DaemonFC	That's why they never caught me cheating. There was no cheating.
[08:01]	DaemonFC	They never asked me how I was fast because they would have to admit they didn't know.
[08:01]	DaemonFC	So I started fucking with them.
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[08:02]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Free Software Awards winners announced: Bruno Haible, code.gouv.fr, Nick Logozzo
[08:02]	DaemonFC	Like, I'd build up my PIE to almost 200% by Friday and then when there was not much left to do at the end of the week and they told me to sweep the floor, I'd stay under the old job code and let it bring my PIE down to about 150%, which is where the incentive maxed out.
[08:03]	DaemonFC	That way they were paying me twice my base rate to sweep the floor because as the average came down because I wasn't doing anything the computer could measure, my time spent sweeping the floor under that job code went up.
[08:03]	DaemonFC	Or I'd just duck into the bathroom and take a shit.
[08:03]	DaemonFC	Or I'd deliberately start slowing way down and let the PIE catch up with me.
[08:04]	DaemonFC	That way I ended up with almost all my time being paid at 200% because the PIE would trickle down from nearly 200% to 150% or so.
[08:04]	DaemonFC	So I was actually gaming the system because of the PIE cap and not switching job codes.
[08:04]	bagiraX	so was that your last job
[08:04]	TR News	[Old] "Nobara OS took the top spot, achieving 100 fps flat" https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/three-gaming-focused-linux-operating-systems-beat-windows-11-in-gaming-benchmarks | Source: Tom's Hardware
[08:04]	TR Bot	 Three gaming-focused Linux operating systems beat Windows 11 in gaming benchmarks | Tom's Hardware
[08:04]	DaemonFC	But Vince never figured that out and I made thousands of dollars.
[08:05]	DaemonFC	Just from that.
[08:05]	DaemonFC	That's what a retard Vince was.
[08:05]	DaemonFC	So that was Vince.
[08:05]	DaemonFC	Oh he was something. These people always end up in charge.
[08:05]	DaemonFC	And they never know what in the hell they're doing.
[08:06]	DaemonFC	But he was my favorite.
[08:06]	DaemonFC	bagiraX: It wasn't his department that figured out payroll.
[08:06]	DaemonFC	So he never caught onto the PIE average spanning the incorrect job code bit.
[08:06]	bagiraX	DaemonFC: does that mean "yes it was my last job" or does that mean "no it was not my last job"
[08:07]	bagiraX	at this point im convinced you're some chatgpt bullshit someone set up to troll this channel because youre not even responding to direct questions anymore
[08:07]	DaemonFC	Sweeping the floor was base pay.
[08:07]	bagiraX	you're barely passing the turing test here
[08:08]	DaemonFC	Sweeping the floor under the order pull or pick job code brought down my average for those.
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[08:08]	DaemonFC	So I'd wait a while and go from pull to pick while sweeping the floor.
[08:08]	TR News	How To Install FFmpeg on Fedora 40 https://idroot.us/install-ffmpeg-fedora-40/
[08:08]	TR Bot	 How To Install FFmpeg on Fedora 40 - idroot
[08:08]	DaemonFC	Until Pull and Pick were closer to 150%.
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[08:08]	DaemonFC	[02:06] <bagiraX> DaemonFC: does that mean "yes it was my last job" or does that mean "no it was not my last job"
[08:09]	DaemonFC	No.
[08:09]	DaemonFC	I just liked that one because it was basically "Are you smarter than a supervisor?" and the prize was more money.
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[08:10]	bagiraX	how long ago was your last job
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[08:10]	TR Bot	 How to Install Chromium (Deb Edition) in Ubuntu 24.04 | 22.04 | UbuntuHandbook
[08:10]	bagiraX	DaemonFC: was your last job more than 10 years ago?
[08:11]	DaemonFC	You know, it's really hard to tell years apart.
[08:11]	DaemonFC	I mean other than COVID.
[08:12]	bagiraX	you dont know if you've worked in the last 10 years?  is that a gap in fake persona bio you've created poorly or something
[08:12]	DaemonFC	My life has been "chunking" for a while.
[08:12]	DaemonFC	I just honestly have very little recollection of entire years.
[08:12]	DaemonFC	Some were just so bad my mind blanked out everything that happened so that I don't think about it.
[08:13]	DaemonFC	I have more like an "executive summary" than individual memories sometimes.
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[08:14]	DaemonFC	A lot of things are just so unimportant to me now that I just go through the motions.
[08:14]	DaemonFC	It's amazing how trauma can force you to prioritize.
[08:14]	TR News	"A few years ago, I wrote a "state of things" blog post about Wayland on NetBSD." https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/x_org_on_netbsd_the | Source: NetBSD
[08:14]	TR Bot	 NetBSD Blog
[08:15]	DaemonFC	I'm starting to completely forget 2019 through about 2022 entirely.
[08:16]	TR News	"further improve the usability of the APIs by exposing them" https://blog.apnic.net/2024/05/06/command-line-routing-stats-with-bgpkit-monocle-and-cloudflare-radar-api/ | Source: APNIC
[08:16]	TR Bot	 Command-line routing stats with BGPKITMonocle and Cloudflare Radar API | APNIC Blog
[08:16]	DaemonFC	I know there are things there that I should not think about in detail.
[08:16]	bagiraX	sounds weak
[08:16]	TR News	"In an interview with PCMag" https://www.tomshardware.com/software/mozilla-firefox/firefox-user-loses-7470-opened-tabs-saved-over-two-years-after-they-cant-restore-browsing-session | Source: Tom's Hardware
[08:16]	TR Bot	 Firefox user loses 7,470 opened tabs saved over two years after they cant restore browsing session | Tom's Hardware
[08:16]	TR News	"Firefox power user Hazel, who prefers not to give her last name" https://uk.pcmag.com/browsers/152140/firefox-power-user-keeps-7400-browser-tabs-open-for-2-years | Source: PC Mag
[08:16]	TR Bot	 Firefox Power User Keeps 7,400+ Browser Tabs Open for 2 Years
[08:17]	DaemonFC	bagiraX: Not really.
[08:17]	DaemonFC	It's stuff that would just keep hurting me.
[08:18]	DaemonFC	I know what happened but the detail is all gone.
[08:18]	bagiraX	even when dealing with trauma there's very little that can happen that is so grotesque or horrible it can't even be thought of
[08:18]	bagiraX	humans are more adaptable than that
[08:18]	bagiraX	the ones that dont give up anyway
[08:18]	DaemonFC	I didn't give up.
[08:19]	DaemonFC	I got mad, I fought back, in some small ways I got my revenge.
[08:19]	bagiraX	if you have events in your life you have to forget to move on from then you gave up
[08:19]	DaemonFC	And now it's like a bad alternate history.
[08:19]	DaemonFC	No, I dealt with them and there's no point revisiting it.
[08:19]	bagiraX	that's different than a psychological barrier that makes you not remember
[08:20]	bagiraX	your story isn't adding up here
[08:20]	bagiraX	so are you lying to yourself or are you lying to me
[08:20]	DaemonFC	What's there to be said? I got rid of the records, they gave me my gun permit back.
[08:20]	DaemonFC	That's a win.
[08:22]	DaemonFC	I found out ways to cost my ex so much money that he admits that he nearly got forced into bankruptcy himself.
[08:22]	bagiraX	how'd ya do that
[08:23]	DaemonFC	Most of it was just driving the car around while missing a bunch of payments. Then instead of giving it back to them, deliberately getting it repossessed.
[08:23]	DaemonFC	Then quickly filing bankruptcy before they could report the repossession.
[08:24]	DaemonFC	It cost him a trip to the repo lot in another state and almost $5,000 in repo and storage fees plus my six months of back payments each with a late fee.
[08:24]	TR News	"the sense that full-text search should be easy" https://transactional.blog/blog/2023-why-full-text-search-is-hard |
[08:24]	TR Bot	 Why Full Text Search is Hard
[08:24]	DaemonFC	Then the car got stolen from him.
[08:25]	DaemonFC	But he couldn't get the insurance check until I signed over the title to the salvage company.
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[08:25]	bagiraX	thats some poor people shit
[08:25]	DaemonFC	So they eventually called him and said "We need this taken care of or we're going to drop the unusable car off at your apartment again.
[08:26]	DaemonFC	I mean, it was destroyed by this point.
[08:26]	DaemonFC	The crackhead tore it up.
[08:26]	DaemonFC	So he was like "How much do you want?"
[08:26]	TR News	"This year's recipients of the awards are Bruno Haible, Nick Logozzo, and the French Free Software Unit of the French government" https://www.fsf.org/news/free-software-awards-winners-announced-bruno-haible-french-free-software-unit-nick-logozzo | Source: FSF
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[08:27]	TR News	"Free Software Foundation's (FSF) sixteenth edition" https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/sharing-day-two-of-libreplanet-2024-cultivating-community | Source: FSF
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[08:27]	DaemonFC	[02:25] <bagiraX> thats some poor people shit
[08:27]	TR Bot	 Reporting back from day one of LibrePlanet: Cultivating Community Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
[08:28]	DaemonFC	He neve has been good about taking my advice.
[08:28]	DaemonFC	We still talk sometimes.
[08:28]	DaemonFC	He didn't pay his landlord this month and now the guy, who had been ignoring him and charging him way less than market rent in Seattle, is all up in his shit again.
[08:28]	DaemonFC	Inspecting the property, accusing them of stuff.
[08:28]	DaemonFC	I told him you don't want to be on this guy's radar, just figure out a way to pay him.
[08:30]	DaemonFC	I don't get it. He makes good money. His illegal alien boyfriend makes good money.
[08:30]	TR News	"The original, Dartmouth BASIC launched in May 1964 and received updates" https://www.tomshardware.com/software/programming/the-basic-programming-language-turns-60-dartmouth-basic-started-it-all-in-1964 | Source: Tom's Hardware
[08:30]	TR Bot	 The BASIC programming language turns 60 Dartmouth BASIC started it all in 1964 | Tom's Hardware
[08:31]	TR News	"optim Function in R" https://www.r-bloggers.com/2024/05/optim-function-in-r/ | Source: Rlang
[08:31]	TR Bot	Function in R | R-bloggers
[08:32]	DaemonFC	They can't come up with $950 rent and they both make over $25 an hour (good money for a high school education and not even working that hard).
[08:32]	DaemonFC	Probably blowing it all on garbage. He took on some loan on a Prius that's mostly just costing him money.
[08:32]	TR News	"Luckily for us lazy people, there's a way of automating them!" https://fantinel.dev/automating-social-media-preview-images-satori | Source: Matt Fantinel
[08:32]	TR Bot	 Automating Social Media Preview Images - Matt Fantinel
[08:32]	TR News	"Testing is important! Im an advocate for Test-Driven Development in my work" https://lewisdale.dev/post/learning-go-day-five/ | Source: Lewis Dale
[08:32]	TR Bot	Go: Day Five | LewisDale.dev
[08:36]	TR News	"Despite the yearly hosting costs given how infrequently I published within the first year" https://www.chamline.net/chamline-one-year-blogversary/ |
[08:36]	TR Bot	 Chamline One Year Blogversary
[08:37]	TR News	"Other things I carry if I'm going out for the day" https://jasper.tandy.is/blogging/the-things-you-carry | Source: Jasper Tandy
[08:37]	TR Bot	 Jasper is blogging The things you carry
[08:37]	TR News	"Whats going on Internet?" https://flamedfury.com/posts/halt-and-catch-fire/ | Source: Flamed Fury
[08:37]	TR Bot	 Halt And Catch Fire
[08:37]	TR News	"I stood there watching and rapidly getting soaked while my grandfather ran over" https://coryd.dev/posts/2024/single-points-of-failure/ | Source: Cory Dransfeldt
[08:37]	TR Bot	 Single points of failure
[08:38]	TR News	chinese medical procurement https://www.dw.com/en/eu-launches-probe-into-chinese-medical-procurement/a-68906085
[08:38]	TR Bot	launches probe into Chinese medical procurement DW 04/24/2024
[08:39]	TR News	"WASP-43 b orbits its host star at just 1.3 million miles" https://futurism.com/the-byte/james-webb-detects-weather-exoplanet-280-light-years | Source: Futurism
[08:39]	TR Bot	 James Webb Detects Weather on Exoplanet From 280 Light Years Away
[08:39]	TR News	"One of my most re-read books is Marcus Aurelius' Meditations." https://gregmorris.co.uk/2024/05/04/a-lesson-from.html | Source: Greg Morris
[08:39]	TR Bot	 Greg Morris - A Lesson from the Gymnasium
[08:40]	TR News	"But for a book lover like me, books arent the be-all-end-al" https://idiomdrottning.org/books-vs-internet | Source: Idiomdrottning
[08:40]	TR Bot	 Books vs Internet
[08:40]	TR News	"I went on to have a decent career, moving mostly within the realm of Drupal" https://weblog.anniegreens.lol/2024/05/an-education-if-you-can-pay-for-it | Source: Anne Sturdivant
[08:40]	TR Bot	 Apple Annies Weblog An education, if you can pay for it.
[08:41]	TR News	gdp not the same as "the economy" https://www.dw.com/en/us-economy-gdp-growth-slows-to-1-6-in-first-quarter/a-68920851
[08:41]	TR Bot	economy: GDP growth slows to 1.6% in first quarter DW 04/25/2024
[08:42]	TR News	"It was fitting that the dogfight took place at Edwards Air Force Base" https://www.voanews.com/a/air-force-leader-takes-ai-controlled-fighter-jet-ride-in-test-vs-human-pilot-/7597733.html | Source: VOA News
[08:42]	TR Bot	 US Air Force leader takes AI-controlled fighter jet ride in test vs human pilot
[08:42]	bagiraX	you know the USAF is in trouble when they're hopping on the tech fuzz bandwagon for PR
[08:43]	bagiraX	we must be really worried about money
[08:46]	TR News	"visit the ElevenLabs office and meet the people responsible" https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/05/elevenlabs-ai-voice-cloning-deepfakes/678288/ | Source: The Atlantic
[08:46]	TR Bot	 My Journey Inside ElevenLabs' Voice-Clone Factory - The Atlantic
[08:47]	DaemonFC	bagiraX: I think their goal is to turn the plane into a drone. :)
[08:47]	DaemonFC	Most of the limitations of a modern fighter jet are that they can do things that a human body can't really deal with that well.
[08:47]	DaemonFC	Even if the person is in prime physical condition.
[08:48]	bagiraX	the tech just aint there yet
[08:48]	TR News	"If Im being totally honest, I dont understand the Rabbit R1 at all." https://birchtree.me/blog/the-rabbit-r1-perplexes-me/ | Source: Matt Birchler
[08:48]	TR Bot	 The Rabbit R1 perplexes me
[08:50]	TR News	"North Yorkshire Council to phase out apostrophe use on street signs" https://www.jwz.org/blog/2024/05/little-bobby-scunthorpe/ | Source: Jamie Zawinski
[08:50]	TR Bot	 jwz: Little Bobby Scunthorpe');--
[08:50]	TR News	"I'll begin by clearing a big misunderstanding people have regarding how Large Language Models work." https://blog.miguelgrinberg.com/post/how-llms-work-explained-without-math | Source: Miguel Grinberg
[08:50]	TR Bot	 How LLMs Work, Explained Without Math - miguelgrinberg.com
[08:52]	TR News	"Our next question for Maddy was about Windows and Linux and what prompted her to leave." https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/get-rid-of-microsoft-start-menu-ads-with-this-new-software-tool | Source: Tom's Hardware
[08:52]	TR Bot	 Get rid of Microsoft's Start Menu ads with this new software tool the "Oh F*ck Go Back" program cleans up Windows 11 | Tom's Hardware
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[08:53]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Windows Losing to GNU/Linux
[08:53]	TR News	"It follows the closure of the site in February" https://therecord.media/lockbit-ransomware-gang-seized-site-reappears-teasing-new-information | Source: The Record
[08:53]	TR Bot	 LockBit's seized darknet site resurrected by police, teasing new revelations
[08:54]	TR News	"There will be cyberattacks during the Games and the Paralympics" https://www.securityweek.com/french-cyberwarriors-ready-to-test-their-defense-against-hackers-and-malware-during-the-olympics/ | Source: Security Week
[08:54]	TR Bot	Cyberwarriors Ready to Test Their Defense Against Hackers and Malware During the Olympics - SecurityWeek
[08:55]	TR News	Surveillance. "According to some reports" https://techcentral.co.za/why-zimbabwes-new-zig-banknotes-have-qr-codes/244045/ | Source: Tech Central (South Africa)
[08:55]	TR Bot	 Why Zimbabwe's new ZiG banknotes have QR codes - TechCentral
[08:55]	TR News	Surveillance https://hararelive.com/2024/04/30/qr-code-on-zig-notes-exploring-the-new-technology-on-zimbabwe-gold-currency-banknotes/ |
[08:55]	TR Bot	 QR Code on ZiG Notes: Exploring the New Technology on Zimbabwe Gold Currency Banknotes - Harare Live
[08:55]	TR News	Surveillance https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/05/opinion/facebook-court-internet-meta.html | Source: New York Times
[08:55]	TR Bot	 Opinion | Im Suing Meta So Users of Facebook Can Control the Content They See - The New York Times
[08:56]	TR News	"serious cyber attack against the members of the Social Democratic Party" https://www.jurist.org/news/2024/05/germany-accuses-russia-of-2023-cyber-attack-and-promises-consequences/ | Source: JURIST
[08:56]	TR Bot	 Germany accuses Russia of 2023 cyber attack and promises 'consequences' - JURIST - News
[08:59]	bagiraX	lol the US bombed germany's gas pipeline from russia and threatened to do it again
[08:59]	TR News	"De Roos managed to sneak in by making his own fake press pass." https://www.vintag.es/2024/05/govert-de-roos-bed-in-photos.html | Source: Vintage Everyday
[08:59]	TR Bot	 In 1969, a Teenage Photographer Used a Fake Press Pass to Shoot John and Yokos Bed-In ~ Vintage Everyday
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[09:00]	TR News	"The grouse, known for its colorful spring mating dance" https://kansasreflector.com/2024/05/05/the-lesser-prairie-chicken-is-dying-kansas-experts-say-the-last-of-the-prairie-will-go-with-it/ | Source: Kansas Reflector
[09:00]	TR Bot	 The lesser prairie chicken is dying. Kansas experts say the last of the prairie will go with it. Kansas Reflector
[09:01]	TR News	"EU Commission has launched an investigation into emission credit claims by Finnair" https://yle.fi/a/74-20087144 | Source: YLE
[09:01]	TR Bot	 EU probes Finnair and other airlines on greenwashing suspicions | Yle News | Yle
[09:02]	TR News	"The industry has been saying space is becoming more congested for years" https://www.axios.com/2024/05/05/satellites-crowded-orbit-spacex | Source: Axios
[09:02]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2024/05/05/satellites-crowded-orbit-spacex )
[09:03]	TR News	"hes wondering if those tax breaks are appropriate" https://kansasreflector.com/2024/05/05/states-rethink-data-centers-as-electricity-hogs-strain-the-grid/ | Source: Kansas Reflector
[09:03]	TR Bot	 States rethink data centers as electricity hogs strain the grid Kansas Reflector
[09:03]	TR News	"It looks like it's seen plenty of action, the LCD on the dash suggested" https://incoherency.co.uk/blog/stories/microlighting.html | Source: James Stanley
[09:03]	TR Bot	 James Stanley - My first microlighting experience
[09:04]	TR News	"Footage from the incident captured the terrifying moment when the elephant charged at the safari vehicle" https://www.lusakatimes.com/2024/05/05/american-tourists-son-speaks-out-after-fatal-elephant-attack-in-zambia-safari/ | Source: Lusaka ZM
[09:05]	TR Bot	 Zambia : American Tourist's Son Speaks Out After Fatal Elephant Attack in Zambia Safari
[09:08]	TR News	"As of December last year, the company had nearly 800 full-time employees in the U.S." https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/luminar-to-cut-nearly-20-jobs-as-part-of-restructuring/articleshow/109833493.cms | Source: India Times
[09:08]	TR Bot	 Luminar Technologies: Luminar to cut nearly 20% jobs as part of restructuring - The Economic Times
[09:10]	TR News	"So what does the order do, what doesn't it and where did it come from?" https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2024-05-05/what-a-judges-gag-order-on-trump-means-in-his-hush-money-case | Source: US News And World Report
[09:10]	TR Bot	stream 1 was not closed cleanly: INTERNAL_ERROR (err 2) ( status 0 @ https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2024-05-05/what-a-judges-gag-order-on-trump-means-in-his-hush-money-case )
[09:11]	TR News	[Old] "Exxon was aware of climate change, as early as 1977" https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/ | Source: Scientific American
[09:11]	TR Bot	 Exxon Knew about Climate Change Almost 40 Years Ago | Scientific American
[09:11]	TR News	"long-running greenwashing campaign" https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/09/politics/big-oil-disinformation-record-profits-climate/index.html | Source: CNN
[09:11]	TR Bot	 Big Oil has engaged in a long-running climate disinformation campaign while raking in record profits | CNN Politics
[09:11]	TR News	"Major oil companies have misled Americans for decades about the threat of human-caused climate change" https://www.nbcnews.com/science/environment/democrats-say-big-oil-misled-public-decades-climate-change-rcna150255 | Source: NBC
[09:11]	TR Bot	 Democrats say Big Oil misled public for decades about climate change
[09:12]	TR News	"explicit denial of the basic science" https://www.budget.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/fossil_fuel_report1.pdf |
[09:12]	TR News	"based on hundreds of newly subpoenaed documents" https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/may/01/big-oil-danger-disinformation-fossil-fuels | Source: The Guardian UK
[09:12]	TR Bot	 Big oil spent decades sowing doubt about fossil fuel dangers, experts testify | Oil and gas companies | The Guardian
[09:12]	TR News	"Thats why were calling out Big Oils climate deception." https://davidsuzuki.org/what-you-can-do/how-to-stop-oil-and-gas-industry-misinformation/ |
[09:12]	TR Bot	 How to stop oil and gas industry misinformation
[09:14]	TR News	"The turmoil came ahead of parliamentary elections in October" https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240430-georgia-pro-eu-protesters | Source: France24
[09:14]	TR Bot	( status 404 @ https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240430-georgia-pro-eu-protesters )
[09:15]	TR News	"First Amendment law isnt as clear around gag orders." https://www.notus.org/trump-2024/trump-gag-order-hush-money-trial | Source: Allbritton Journalism Institute
[09:15]	TR Bot	 Donald Trump Wont Stop Posting. The Courts May Not Be Prepared for That. - NOTUS (Allbritton Journalism Institute)
[09:17]	TR News	"According to a press release from Republican congressman Chris Smith last Thursday" https://hongkongfp.com/2024/04/30/us-bill-seeks-to-rename-street-of-hong-kong-trade-office-jimmy-lai-way-as-city-condemns-malicious-interference/ | Source: Hong Kong Free Press
[09:17]	TR Bot	 US bill aims to rename street of HK trade office 'Jimmy Lai Way'
[09:18]	TR News	"Many people are still asking why this draft law is dangerous for Georgia." https://neweasterneurope.eu/2024/05/05/why-the-russian-law-is-so-dangerous-for-georgia/ | Source: New Eastern Europe
[09:18]	TR Bot	 Why the Russian law is so dangerous for Georgia - New Eastern Europe
[09:18]	TR News	"Media freedom is under siege" https://www.voanews.com/a/biden-all-jailed-journalists-should-be-released/7597229.html | Source: VOA News
[09:18]	TR Bot	 Biden: All jailed journalists should be released
[09:18]	TR News	"Politico founder Robert L. Allbritton has announced that he has committed $20 million" https://www.editorandpublisher.com/stories/robert-allbritton-launches-non-profit-educational-organization-to-provide-practical-training-for,243485 |
[09:18]	TR Bot	 Robert Allbritton launches non-profit educational organization to provide practical training for aspiring journalists | Editor and Publisher
[09:20]	TR News	[Old] "Owner Robert Allbritton will stay on as publisher of Politico and its stablemate" https://www.washingtonian.com/2021/08/26/politico-sold-for-a-reported-1-billion/ | Source: Washingtonian
[09:20]	TR Bot	Sold for a Reported $1 Billion - Washingtonian
[09:21]	TR News	"Big newspapers where reporters used to get training are kind of gone" https://www.semafor.com/article/05/01/2023/politicos-founder-is-spending-20-million-to-train-aspiring-journalists | Source: Semafor Inc
[09:21]	TR Bot	founder is spending $20 million to train aspiring journalists | Semafor
[09:23]	TR News	"Thanks to the teller, the bank customer alerted the actual police" https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/03/operation_pandora_europol/ | Source: The Register UK
[09:23]	TR Bot	 Op Pandora puts suspected phone fraudsters back in the box The Register
[09:24]	TR News	Digital Restrictions (DRM). "There have also been reports of Vanguard bricking some computers." https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/pc-gaming/league-of-legends-adds-unpopular-tpm-20-requirement-vanguard-anti-cheat-update-irks-fanbase-after-windows-11-debacle | Source: Tom's Hardware
[09:24]	TR Bot	 League of Legends adds unpopular TPM 2.0 requirement Vanguard anti-cheat update irks fanbase after Windows 11 debacle | Tom's Hardware
[09:24]	TR News	"Everything is a subscription these days, be it streaming services or apps." https://ljpuk.net/2024/05/05/reviewing-my-subscriptions/ | Source: Lee Peterson
[09:24]	TR Bot	 Reviewing my subscriptions LJPUK
[09:24]	TR News	"it has felt very much like the modern-day MADD... Political operatives say the cross-partisan turn against social media platforms" https://www.notus.org/technology/social-media-ban-regulation-spread | Source: Allbritton Journalism Institute
[09:24]	TR Bot	 Parents Have Become the Most Powerful Political Voice Taking On Big Tech - NOTUS (Allbritton Journalism Institute)
[09:28]	TR News	sanctions https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/canada-life-benefits-public-service-change-problems-1.7184925
[09:28]	TR Bot	 Government hits Canada Life with financial sanctions | CBC News
[09:29]	TR News	Spain busts counterfeit ring behind fake euro coins https://www.dw.com/en/spain-busts-counterfeit-ring-behind-fake-euro-coins/a-68934089
[09:29]	TR Bot	busts counterfeit ring behind fake euro coins DW 04/27/2024
[09:31]	TR News	baby formula costs spiral https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/baby-formula-high-cost-1.7186067
[09:31]	TR Bot	 High baby formula costs for this Sudbury, Ont., family mean other bills go unpaid | CBC News
[09:35]	TR News	Milei https://www.dw.com/en/amid-argentina-s-protests-are-javier-milei-s-days-numbered/a-68921283
[09:35]	TR Bot	Argentina's protests, are Javier Milei's days numbered? DW 04/25/2024
[09:35]	TR News	Bailouts for the rich https://www.dw.com/en/america-s-billion-dollar-bet-on-us-chipmaking/a-68857960
[09:35]	TR Bot	billion-dollar bet on US chipmaking DW 04/25/2024
[09:38]	TR News	China EV offensive https://www.dw.com/en/european-ports-swamped-with-cars-amid-china-ev-offensive/a-68912413
[09:38]	TR Bot	ports swamped with cars amid China EV offensive DW 04/25/2024
[09:39]	TR News	But "consumer confidence" is not the real economy, it is a sentiment that politicians and media can game https://www.dw.com/en/german-consumer-confidence-hits-two-year-high/a-68916289
[09:40]	TR Bot	consumer confidence hits two-year high DW 04/25/2024
[09:42]	TR News	The '90s called. They want their books back https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/baby-sitters-club-books-1.7183119
[09:42]	TR Bot	 The Baby-Sitters Club books are wildly popular again and adults are loving the nostalgia | CBC News
[09:42]	TR News	Ted Baker https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/ted-baker-canada-creditor-protection-1.7186457
[09:42]	TR Bot	 Luxury retailer Ted Baker Canada is seeking creditor protection | CBC News
[09:43]	TR News	Canada is no exception https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/plastics-convention-ottawa-debate-1.7185931
[09:43]	TR Bot	 The world is struggling with plastic pollution Canada is no exception | CBC News
[09:44]	TR News	Decoding China: Competing for control over digital future https://www.dw.com/en/decoding-china-competing-for-control-over-digital-future/a-68928493
[09:44]	TR Bot	China: Competing for control over digital future DW 04/26/2024
[09:44]	TR News	retailer
[09:44]	TR News	China's Shein fashion faces stricter EU regulation https://www.dw.com/en/china-s-shein-fashion-retailer-faces-stricter-eu-regulation/a-68929456
[09:44]	TR Bot	Shein fashion retailer faces stricter EU regulation DW 04/26/2024
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[11:27]	MinceR	(cat) https://ircz.de/p/24042526
[11:27]	TR Bot	 WHOOPSIE
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[11:55]	TR News	A cross-border cookie quest has me questioning my Canadian credentials https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/first-person-girl-guide-cookies-1.7185235
[11:55]	TR Bot	 A cross-border cookie quest has me questioning my Canadian credentials | CBC News
[11:57]	TR News	biofuel https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/bakx-budget-biofuels-feds-ira-1.7186406
[11:57]	TR Bot	 Feds give financial boost to biofuel sector amid growing U.S. competition | CBC News
[11:57]	TR News	Windows TCO? https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/london-drugs-closure-western-canada-1.7187615
[11:57]	TR Bot	 London Drugs closes stores until further notice due to cyberattack | CBC News
● May 06
[12:01]	TR News	Watchdog calls out 'gaps' in how Canada conducts online spying operations https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cse-active-defensive-operations-nsira-1.7189316
[12:01]	TR Bot	 Watchdog calls out 'gaps' in how Canada conducted online intelligence operations | CBC News
[12:01]	TR News	GIMP 2.10.38: The Last Stable Update before the 3.0 Release https://linuxiac.com/gimp-2-10-38-image-manipulation-program/
[12:01]	TR Bot	 GIMP 2.10.38: The Last Stable Update before the 3.0 Release
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[12:02]	TR News	Traefik 3.0 Reverse Proxy Rolls Out With Major Enhancements https://linuxiac.com/traefik-3-0-reverse-proxy/
[12:02]	TR Bot	 Traefik 3.0 Reverse Proxy Rolls Out With Major Enhancements
[12:03]	TR News	Turn WebSites into a Desktop Apps with the Power of Rust, for Windows, GNU/Linux and macOS. https://medevel.com/pake/
[12:03]	TR Bot	 Turn WebSites into a Desktop Apps with the Power of Rust, for Windows, Linux and macOS.
[12:03]	TR News	Sequeler is a Free Native Desktop SQL Client for GNU/Linux https://medevel.com/sequeler-linux/
[12:03]	TR Bot	 Sequeler is a Free Native Desktop SQL Client for Linux
[12:04]	TR News	They Try to Replace the Creators of GNU/Linux and Hijack Their Word, Work, and Reputation (updated) https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/05/They_Try_to_Replace_the_Creators_of_GNU_Linux_and_Hijack_Their_.shtml
[12:04]	TR Bot	 Techrights They Try to Replace the Creators of GNU/Linux and Hijack Their Word, Work, and Reputation
[12:04]	TR News	Over at Tux Machines... https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml
[12:04]	TR Bot	 Techrights Over at Tux Machines...
[12:04]	TR News	statCounter's Latest: Android Bouncing to New All-Time Highs, backdoored Windows Down to Unprecedented Lows https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/statCounter_s_Latest_Android_Bouncing_to_New_All_Time_Highs_Win.shtml
[12:04]	TR Bot	 Techrights statCounter's Latest: Android Bouncing to New All-Time Highs, Windows Down to Unprecedented Lows
[12:07]	TR News	 (NEW):  Daily driving Plasma Mobile http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Daily_driving_Plasma_Mobile.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Daily_driving_Plasma_Mobile.gmi 
[12:07]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Daily driving Plasma Mobile
[12:14]	TR News	Windows TCO https://itwire.com/security/means-to-enter-zircodata-servers-sold-by-an-initial-access-broker.html
[12:14]	TR Bot	- Means to enter ZircoDATA servers sold by an initial access broker
[12:14]	TR News	Delete Windows, faster. https://www.jurist.org/news/2024/05/germany-accuses-russia-of-2023-cyber-attack-and-promises-consequences/
[12:14]	TR Bot	 Germany accuses Russia of 2023 cyber attack and promises 'consequences' - JURIST - News
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[12:22]	TR News	 (NEW):  Digital Minimalism - #HowTo clean up your digital life in Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Digital_Minimalism_How_to_clean_up_your_digital_life_in_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Digital_Minimalism_How_to_clean_up_your_digital_life_in_Linux.gmi 
[12:22]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Digital Minimalism - How to clean up your digital life in Linux
[12:22]	TR News	 (NEW):  KeePassXC 2.7.8 Improves Bitwarden 1PUX Password Import and Passkey Support http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/KeePassXC_2_7_8_Improves_Bitwarden_1PUX_Password_Import_and_Pas.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/KeePassXC_2_7_8_Improves_Bitwarden_1PUX_Password_Import_and_Pas.gmi 
[12:22]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines KeePassXC 2.7.8 Improves Bitwarden 1PUX Password Import and Passkey Support
[12:25]	TR News	Faizul "Piju" 9M2PJU: Empower Your Cybersecurity Journey with Linux: Why Ubuntu is the Perfect Starting Point https://hamradio.my/empower-your-cybersecurity-journey-with-linux-why-ubuntu-is-the-perfect-starting-point/
[12:25]	TR Bot	 Empower Your Cybersecurity Journey with Linux: Why Ubuntu is the Perfect Starting Point - 9M2PJU
[12:26]	TR News	 (NEW):  Revamping Plasma Mobile Navigation Gestures http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Revamping_Plasma_Mobile_Navigation_Gestures.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Revamping_Plasma_Mobile_Navigation_Gestures.gmi 
[12:26]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Revamping Plasma Mobile Navigation Gestures
[12:31]	TR News	 (NEW):  Embrace Ubuntu: A Financially Savvy Guide to Ditching Microsoft Windows and Prioritizing Security, Privacy, and Savings http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Embrace_Ubuntu_A_Financially_Savvy_Guide_to_Ditching_Microsoft_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Embrace_Ubuntu_A_Financially_Savvy_Guide_to_Ditching_Microsoft_.gmi 
[12:31]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Embrace Ubuntu: A Financially Savvy Guide to Ditching Microsoft Windows and Prioritizing Security, Privacy, and Savings
[12:38]	TR News	9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: May 5th, 2024 https://9to5linux.com/9to5linux-weekly-roundup-may-5th-2024
[12:38]	TR Bot	Weekly Roundup: May 5th, 2024 - 9to5Linux
[12:38]	TR News	GIMP 2.10.38Released with Much-Requested Backports of GTK3 Features https://9to5linux.com/gimp-2-10-38-released-with-much-requested-backports-of-gtk3-features
[12:38]	TR Bot	2.10.38Released with Much-Requested Backports of GTK3 Features - 9to5Linux
[12:39]	TR News	QV version 240506 pre-alpha released https://bkhome.org/news/202405/qv-version-240506-pre-alpha-released.html
[12:39]	TR Bot	 QV version 240506 pre-alpha released
[12:41]	TR News	 (NEW):  QV version 240425 pre-alpha released (and more) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/26/QV_version_240425_pre_alpha_released_and_more.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/26/QV_version_240425_pre_alpha_released_and_more.gmi 
[12:41]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines QV version 240425 pre-alpha released (and more)
[12:41]	TR News	This Windows Installer Installs Linux https://hackaday.com/2024/05/05/this-windows-installer-installs-linux/ | Source: Hackaday
[12:41]	TR Bot	Windows Installer Installs Linux | Hackaday
[12:46]	TR News	Ubuntu 24.04 Support WIP for Lenovo ThinkPad X13s Laptop https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/05/ubuntu-24-04-lenovo-thinkpad-x13s-snapdragon
[12:46]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu 24.04 Support WIP for Lenovo ThinkPad X13s Laptop - OMG! Ubuntu
[12:49]	TR News	 (NEW):  Windows TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) Tales http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Windows_TCO_Total_Cost_of_Ownership_Tales.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Windows_TCO_Total_Cost_of_Ownership_Tales.gmi 
[12:49]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Windows TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) Tales
[12:51]	TR News	 (NEW):  GNU/Linux Email Clients and SQL Client Sequeler http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/GNU_Linux_Email_Clients_and_SQL_Client_Sequeler.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/GNU_Linux_Email_Clients_and_SQL_Client_Sequeler.gmi 
[12:51]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines GNU/Linux Email Clients and SQL Client Sequeler
[12:54]	TR News	 (NEW):   Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Programming_Leftovers.gmi 
[12:54]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[12:54]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/today_s_leftovers.gmi 
[12:54]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[12:56]	TR News	 (NEW):  Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.gmi 
[12:56]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers
[12:59]	TR News	Techrights Links 06/05/2024: Al Jazeera Raided, Wildfire Season Coming http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/Links_06_05_2024_Al_Jazeera_Raided_Wildfire_Season_Coming.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/Links_06_05_2024_Al_Jazeera_Raided_Wildfire_Season_Coming.gmi 
[12:59]	TR Bot	 Techrights Links 06/05/2024: Al Jazeera Raided, Wildfire Season Coming
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[13:01]	TR News	Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Surveillance Giant Google FeedBurner https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-open-source-alternatives-google-feedburner/
[13:01]	TR Bot	Free and Open Source Alternatives to Google FeedBurner - LinuxLinks
[13:01]	TR News	11 Best Free and Open Source Network Inventory Management https://www.linuxlinks.com/networkinventorymanagement/
[13:01]	TR Bot	Best Free and Open Source Network Inventory Management - LinuxLinks
[13:01]	TR News	vkdt workflow toolbox for raw stills and video https://www.linuxlinks.com/vkdt-workflow-toolbox-raw-stills-video/
[13:01]	TR Bot	- workflow toolbox for raw stills and video - LinuxLinks
[13:01]	TR News	ObStack fully dynamically configure data object types https://www.linuxlinks.com/obstack-fully-dynamically-configure-data-object-types/
[13:01]	TR Bot	- fully dynamically configure data object types - LinuxLinks
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[15:03]	admfubar	https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/san-francisco-bed-pods-complaints-19433768.php
[15:03]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/san-francisco-bed-pods-complaints-19433768.php )
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[15:22]	admfubar	https://www.tweaktown.com/news/98063/us-government-auctions-off-supercomputer-with-8-000-intel-cpus-and-300tb-of-ram/index.html
[15:22]	TR Bot	 US government auctions off supercomputer with 8,000 Intel CPUs and 300TB of RAM
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[15:31]	admfubar	https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/06/cisa_alert_dt_bugs/
[15:31]	TR Bot	 CISA expects devs to squash old directory traversal bugs The Register
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[15:34]	psydroid2	best deal of the century
[15:34]	TR News	"Very normal" GNU/Linux 6.9-rc7 released with ASUS ROG Raikiri controller support https://www.neowin.net/news/very-normal-linux-69-rc7-released-with-asus-rog-raikiri-controller-support/
[15:34]	TR Bot	 "Very normal" Linux 6.9-rc7 released with ASUS ROG Raikiri controller support - Neowin
[15:35]	psydroid2	but bad for Intel, as they will sell even less hardware to smaller outfits
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[15:38]	admfubar	https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/05/microsoft_nokia_anniversary/
[15:38]	TR Bot	 That time when Microsoft bought and killed Nokia phone unit The Register
[15:38]	TR News	 (NEW):  Linux 6.9-rc7 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Linux_6_9_rc7.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Linux_6_9_rc7.gmi 
[15:38]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Linux 6.9-rc7
[15:42]	TR News	Ismael Olea: This website now has GPDR friendly statistics https://olea.org/diario/2024/05/06/GDPR_statistics_with_librecounder.html
[15:42]	TR Bot	 This website now has GPDR friendly statistics
[15:44]	psydroid2	lol
[15:44]	psydroid2	killerversary
[15:44]	TR News	10 Things to Do After Installing Fedora 40 (Workstation) https://www.debugpoint.com/10-things-to-do-fedora-40-after-install/
[15:44]	TR Bot	stream 1 was not closed cleanly: PROTOCOL_ERROR (err 1) ( status 0 @ https://www.debugpoint.com/10-things-to-do-fedora-40-after-install/ )
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[15:45]	TR News	"So happy birthday BASIC!" https://hackaday.com/2024/05/05/hackaday-links-may-5-2024/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:45]	TR Bot	Links: May 5, 2024 | Hackaday
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[15:50]	TR News	"Well, you might want to learn a thing or two from [Albert], who shows us a portable DLNA server built around a GL-MT300N-V2 pocket router." https://hackaday.com/2024/05/05/a-portable-dlna-server-hack-helps-you-tame-openwrt/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:50]	TR Bot	Portable DLNA Server Hack Helps You Tame OpenWRT | Hackaday
[15:53]	TR News	United States Entering the $100 Trillion Debt Trap, We Compare GAFAM Debt (updated) https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/United_States_Entering_the_100_Trillion_Debt_Trap_We_Compare_GA.shtml
[15:53]	TR Bot	 Techrights United States Entering the $100 Trillion Debt Trap, We Compare GAFAM Debt
[15:53]	TR News	Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC), Inc. vs. Vizio, Inc. Is Costing the Free Software Foundation Money (updated) https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/05/Software_Freedom_Conservancy_SFC_Inc_vs_Vizio_Inc_Is_Costing_th.shtml
[15:53]	TR Bot	 Techrights Software Freedom Conservancy (SFC), Inc. vs. Vizio, Inc. Is Costing the Free Software Foundation Money
[15:53]	TR News	GitLab's Losses Grew From $172,311,000 to $424,174,000 Per Annum https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/GitLab_s_Losses_Grew_From_172_311_000_to_424_174_000_Per_Annum.shtml
[15:53]	TR Bot	 Techrights GitLab's Losses Grew From $172,311,000 to $424,174,000 Per Annum
[15:54]	TR News	Can't Bear the Thought We're Happy and Productive https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/Can_t_Bear_the_Thought_We_re_Happy_and_Productive.shtml
[15:54]	TR Bot	 Techrights Can't Bear the Thought We're Happy and Productive
[15:54]	TR News	On Character Assassination Tactics https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/On_Character_Assassination_Tactics.shtml
[15:54]	TR Bot	 Techrights On Character Assassination Tactics
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[15:56]	TR News	R.F.K. Jr. Claims Censorship After Facebook (Farcebook) and Instagram Briefly Block New Ad https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/05/us/politics/rfk-jr-facebook-instagram-ad.html
[15:56]	TR Bot	 R.F.K. Jr. Claims Censorship After Facebook and Instagram Briefly Block New Ad - The New York Times
[15:57]	TR News	Following the Herd (or HURD) https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/05/Following_the_Herd_or_HURD.shtml
[15:57]	TR Bot	 Techrights Following the Herd (or HURD)
[15:57]	TR News	Death of Dr Alex Blewitt, UK https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/05/Death_of_Dr_Alex_Blewitt_UK.shtml
[15:57]	TR Bot	 Techrights Death of Dr Alex Blewitt, UK
[15:57]	TR News	The Revolution Continues https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/05/The_Revolution_Continues.shtml
[15:57]	TR Bot	 Techrights The Revolution Continues
[15:57]	TR News	Death of Michael Anthony Bordlee, New Orleans, Louisiana https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/05/Death_of_Michael_Anthony_Bordlee_New_Orleans_Louisiana.shtml
[15:57]	TR Bot	 Techrights Death of Michael Anthony Bordlee, New Orleans, Louisiana
[15:57]	TR News	Erinn Clark & Debian: Justice or another Open Source vendetta? https://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/Erinn_Clark_Debian_Justice_or_another_Open_Source_vendetta.shtml
[15:57]	TR Bot	 Techrights Erinn Clark & Debian: Justice or another Open Source vendetta?
[15:58]	TR News	Guitar
[15:59]	TR News	Christian Hergert: Guitar Builderings https://blogs.gnome.org/chergert/2024/05/05/guitar-builderings/
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[15:59]	TR Bot	 Guitar Builderings Happenings in GNOME
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[16:00]	TR News	Swiss PGDay 2024: Schedule Published https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/swiss-pgday-2024-schedule-published-2856/
[16:00]	TR Bot	to connect to www.postgresql.org port 443 after 2706 ms: Couldn't connect to server ( status 0 @ https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/swiss-pgday-2024-schedule-published-2856/ )
[16:00]	TR News	Cycling Towards Confusion: Is there room for iFIT Fitness Services and iFIT Safety Glasses? https://patentlyo.com/patent/2024/05/cycling-confusion-services.html
[16:00]	TR Bot	 Cycling Towards Confusion: Is there room for iFIT Fitness Services and iFIT Safety Glasses?
[16:01]	admfubar	https://www.firstpost.com/tech/us-military-scammed-into-buying-chinese-fake-cisco-products-used-for-f-16-f-18-f-22-apache-aircrafts-13767691.html
[16:01]	TR Bot	military scammed into buying Chinese, counterfeit IT products for F-16, F-18, F-22, Apache aircrafts Firstpost
[16:02]	TR News	Neofetch Alternatives: 3 Best GNU/Linux System Information Tools https://www.tecmint.com/neofetch-alternatives/
[16:02]	TR Bot	 Neofetch Alternatives: 3 Top Linux System Information Tools
[16:03]	TR News	 (NEW):  Neofetch Development Ends as GitHub Project Archived http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/01/Neofetch_Development_Ends_as_GitHub_Project_Archived.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/01/Neofetch_Development_Ends_as_GitHub_Project_Archived.gmi 
[16:03]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Neofetch Development Ends as GitHub Project Archived
[16:04]	TR News	Estimating Shooting Performance Unlikeliness https://www.r-bloggers.com/2024/05/estimating-shooting-performance-unlikeliness/
[16:04]	TR Bot	Shooting Performance Unlikeliness | R-bloggers
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[16:05]	TR News	Monday's papers: Cloud-powered jobs, electricity problems and a proliferation of parking tickets https://yle.fi/a/74-20087171
[16:05]	TR Bot	 Monday's papers: Cloud-powered jobs, electricity problems and a proliferation of parking tickets | Yle News | Yle
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[16:06]	TR News	"We all know the Hollywood trope of picking a lock with a paperclip, and while it certainly is doable, most reputable locks require slightly more sophisticated tools to pick effectively." https://hackaday.com/2024/05/05/this-robot-picks-locks-if-youre-very-patient/ | Source: Hackaday
[16:06]	TR Bot	Robot Picks Locks, If Youre Very Patient | Hackaday
[16:06]	TR News	Chinas hackers targeted our MPs. We need to talk about this relationship https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/chinas-hackers-targetted-our-mps-we-need-to-talk-about-this-relationship/
[16:06]	TR Bot	 China's hackers targeted our MPs. We need to talk about this relationship | The Strategist
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[16:10]	TR News	Watch: Boeing's Starliner Capsule Blasts Off on First Crewed Mission to ISS Today https://www.sciencealert.com/watch-boeings-starliner-capsule-blasts-off-on-first-crewed-mission-to-iss-today
[16:10]	TR Bot	Boeing's Starliner Capsule Blasts Off on First Crewed Mission to ISS Today : ScienceAlert
[16:11]	TR News	Lazy Reading for 2024/05/05 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2024/05/05/lazy-reading-for-2024-05-05/
[16:11]	TR Bot	 Lazy Reading for 2024/05/05 DragonFly BSD Digest
[16:13]	TR News	League of Legends adds unpopular TPM 2.0 requirement Vanguard anti-cheat update irks fanbase after backdoored Windows 11 debacle https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/pc-gaming/league-of-legends-adds-unpopular-tpm-20-requirement-vanguard-anti-cheat-update-irks-fanbase-after-windows-11-debacle
[16:13]	TR Bot	 League of Legends adds unpopular TPM 2.0 requirement Vanguard anti-cheat update irks fanbase after Windows 11 debacle | Tom's Hardware
[16:14]	TR News	Quantum Entanglement May Share a Profound Link With Steam Engines https://www.sciencealert.com/quantum-entanglement-may-share-a-profound-link-with-steam-engines
[16:14]	TR Bot	Entanglement May Share a Profound Link With Steam Engines : ScienceAlert
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[16:15]	TR News	GIMP 2.10.38Released https://www.gimp.org/news/2024/05/05/gimp-2-10-38-released/
[16:15]	TR Bot	 GIMP 2.10.38Released - GIMP
[16:17]	TR News	This Week in Linux 262: Flavours of Ubuntu 24.04, Proton 9.0, NVIDIA + Steam Deck & more GNU/Linux news https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-262/
[16:17]	TR Bot	Flavours of Ubuntu 24.04, Proton 9.0, NVIDIA + Steam Deck & more Linux news - This Week in Linux - TuxDigital
[16:17]	TR News	Going GNU/Linux #454 Listener Feedback https://goinglinux.com/shownotes.html#glp454
[16:17]	TR Bot	 Going Linux Shownotes
[16:18]	TR News	Bundlehunt 2024 Superstar Software Bundle https://www.wine-reviews.net/2024/05/bundlehunt-2024-superstar-software.html
[16:18]	TR Bot	 Wine Reviews : Bundlehunt 2024 Superstar Software Bundle
[16:20]	TR News	Build a Debian DEB File From Your Projects Source https://thenewstack.io/build-a-debian-deb-file-from-your-projects-source/
[16:20]	TR Bot	 Build a Debian DEB File From Your Projects Source - The New Stack
[16:20]	TR News	Berlin Goals sprint 2024 https://meven.github.io/berlin-goals-sprint-2024/
[16:20]	TR Bot	 Berlin Goals sprint 2024 - meven's blog
[16:21]	TR News	Monitoring the weather with an Arduino MKR WiFi 1010-based station https://blog.arduino.cc/2024/05/05/monitoring-the-weather-with-an-arduino-mkr-wifi-1010-based-station/
[16:21]	TR Bot	 Monitoring the weather with an Arduino MKR WiFi 1010-based station | Arduino Blog
[16:21]	TR News	Cytron Edu Pico Review: Learning to FAIL https://www.tomshardware.com/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-pico/cytron-edu-pico-review
[16:21]	TR Bot	 Cytron Edu Pico Review: Learning to FAIL | Tom's Hardware
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[16:25]	TR News	T-Mobile Home Internet: Revisiting 5G connectivity for the home after two years https://www.tomshardware.com/service-providers/t-mobile-home-internet-revisiting-5g-connectivity-for-the-home-after-two-years
[16:25]	TR Bot	 T-Mobile Home Internet: Revisiting 5G connectivity for the home after two years | Tom's Hardware
[16:26]	TR News	"There is a reason building a rocket engine is harder than most things you want to build. If you are building, say, a car, your goal is to not have it explode." https://hackaday.com/2024/05/05/building-a-rocket-engine-from-scratch/ | Source: Hackaday
[16:26]	TR Bot	A Rocket Engine From Scratch | Hackaday
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[16:29]	TR News	Apple 2Q revenue down by 4% as iPhone sales drop by 10% https://itwire.com/market/apple-2q-revenue-down-by-4-as-iphone-sales-drop-by-10.html
[16:29]	TR Bot	- Apple 2Q revenue down by 4% as iPhone sales drop by 10%
[16:30]	TR News	Review of CrowVi 15.6-inch portable USB-C and HDMI touchscreen display with backdoored Windows 11, Ubuntu 24.04, and Raspberry Pi 5 https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/05/06/review-of-crowvi-15-6-inch-portable-usb-c-and-hdmi-touchscreen-display-with-windows-11-ubuntu-24-04-and-raspberry-pi-5/
[16:30]	TR Bot	 Review of CrowVi 15.6-inch portable USB-C and HDMI touchscreen display with Windows 11, Ubuntu 24.04, and Raspberry Pi 5 - CNX Software
[16:31]	TR News	TikTok is trash, but it is fed by trashy tabloids https://nypost.com/2024/05/06/lifestyle/tiktok-trend-man-or-a-bear-yields-strategic-tips-from-nps/
[16:31]	TR Bot	 TikTok trend 'man or a bear' yields strategic tips from NPS
[16:31]	TR News	 (NEW):  Dillo 3.1 Open-Source Web Browser Released After 9 Year Hiatus http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Dillo_3_1_Open_Source_Web_Browser_Released_After_9_Year_Hiatus.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Dillo_3_1_Open_Source_Web_Browser_Released_After_9_Year_Hiatus.gmi 
[16:31]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Dillo 3.1 Open-Source Web Browser Released After 9 Year Hiatus
[16:31]	TR News	Android no longer supports RISC-V, for now https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/05/06/android-no-longer-supports-risc-v/
[16:31]	TR Bot	 Android no longer supports RISC-V, for now... - CNX Software
[16:32]	TR News	New Abusive Monopolist Microsoft DNS system 'meant for firms with fully managed devices' https://itwire.com/security/new-microsoft-dns-system-meant-for-firms-with-fully-managed-devices.html
[16:32]	TR Bot	- New Microsoft DNS system 'meant for firms with fully managed devices'
[16:33]	TR News	Poking Atomic Nuclei With Lasers For Atomic Clocks And Energy Storage https://hackaday.com/2024/05/05/poking-atomic-nuclei-with-lasers-for-atomic-clocks-and-energy-storage/ | Source: Hackaday
[16:33]	TR Bot	Atomic Nuclei With Lasers For Atomic Clocks And Energy Storage | Hackaday
[16:33]	TR News	Nano-ITX motherboard is powered by defective chip maker Intel Atom x7000RE Series Amston Lake SoC https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/05/06/nano-itx-motherboard-is-powered-by-intel-atom-x7000re-series-amston-lake-soc/
[16:33]	TR Bot	 Nano-ITX motherboard is powered by Intel Atom x7000RE Series "Amston Lake" SoC - CNX Software
[16:34]	TR News	"Canonical kernel engineer Juerg Haefliger has shared an update on Ubuntu support for the Lenovo ThinkPad X13s (Gen 1) laptop." https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/05/ubuntu-24-04-lenovo-thinkpad-x13s-snapdragon
[16:34]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu 24.04 Support WIP for Lenovo ThinkPad X13s Laptop - OMG! Ubuntu
[16:34]	TR News	How to Fix Broken Packages on Linux https://www.howtogeek.com/how-to-fix-broken-packages-on-linux/
[16:34]	TR Bot	 How to Fix Broken Packages on Linux
[16:51]	TR News	Next semi-annual Ubuntu release in the works, releases on October 10 https://www.techzine.eu/news/devops/119618/next-semi-annual-ubuntu-release-in-the-works-releases-on-october-10/
[16:51]	TR Bot	 Next semi-annual Ubuntu release in the works, releases on October 10 - Techzine Europe
[16:53]	TR News	"Canonical, the company behind Ubuntu, has shared its timetable for Ubuntu 24.10 Oracular Oriole with the community. The schedule states that a beta release will be made available on September 19 before a release candidate on October 3 and the final release on October 10." https://www.neowin.net/news/ubuntu-2410-oracular-oriole-beta-due-in-september-final-release-on-october-10/
[16:53]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu 24.10 Oracular Oriole beta due in September, final release on October 10 - Neowin
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[16:57]	TR News	"Every year these come around it feels like these awards become more and more detached from the wider FOSS landscape and the software that I use? I guess it makes sense with the declining amount of people who desire to put the "GNU" name on their project." https://lwn.net/Articles/972572/
[16:57]	TR Bot	2023 FSF Free Software Awards [LWN.net]
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[17:11]	TR News	Since this morning's article Android rose to 45.1%, Windows down to 26.5% https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202405
[17:11]	TR Bot	 Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats
[17:12]	TR News	GNU/Linux up further in India? https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/india/#monthly-200901-202405
[17:12]	TR Bot	 Desktop Operating System Market Share India | Statcounter Global Stats
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[17:23]	TR News	 (NEW):  GNU/Linux in Turkey Almost 10% Now http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/GNU_Linux_in_Turkey_Almost_10_Now.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/GNU_Linux_in_Turkey_Almost_10_Now.gmi 
[17:23]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines GNU/Linux in Turkey Almost 10% Now
[17:24]	TR News	https://www.usdebtclock.org/
[17:24]	TR Bot	 U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time
[17:24]	TR News	Wow, over trillion dollars in debt now. As of minutes ago. https://www.usdebtclock.org/
[17:25]	psydroid2	100 trillion?
[17:27]	schestowitz	yes
[17:27]	schestowitz	that happened about 5 mins ago
[17:27]	schestowitz	at least based on _this_ clock
[17:29]	TR News	GNU/Linux climbs about 3% in Africa https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/africa/#monthly-200902-202405
[17:29]	TR Bot	 Desktop Operating System Market Share Africa | Statcounter Global Stats
[17:29]	TR News	Windows fell again to 13% https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop-mobile-console/africa/#monthly-200902-202405
[17:29]	TR Bot	 Desktop, Mobile & Console Operating System Market Share Africa | Statcounter Global Stats
[17:30]	TR News	And down to 21% again in Asia https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop-mobile-console/asia/#monthly-200902-202405
[17:30]	TR Bot	 Desktop, Mobile & Console Operating System Market Share Asia | Statcounter Global Stats
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[17:36]	TR News	Techrights In Europe, Android is Bigger Than Windows (Android Now Measured at 45.1% Worldwide) http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/In_Europe_Android_is_Bigger_Than_Windows_Android_Now_Measured_a.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/In_Europe_Android_is_Bigger_Than_Windows_Android_Now_Measured_a.gmi 
[17:36]	TR Bot	 Techrights In Europe, Android is Bigger Than Windows (Android Now Measured at 45.1% Worldwide)
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[17:40]	TR News	 (NEW):  Congratulations to Inkonic on winning Inkscape 1.4 About Screen Contest http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Congratulations_to_Inkonic_on_winning_Inkscape_1_4_About_Screen.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Congratulations_to_Inkonic_on_winning_Inkscape_1_4_About_Screen.gmi 
[17:40]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Congratulations to Inkonic on winning Inkscape 1.4 About Screen Contest
[17:41]	TR News	LINUX.COM has not been updated in a MONTH. To an outsider it may seem like "LINUX" is a dead project. https://www.linux.com/
[17:41]	TR Bot	- News For Open Source Professionals
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[17:48]	psydroid2	Windows completely dying in Africa
[17:51]	TR News	 (NEW):  Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/05/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/05/Security_Leftovers.gmi 
[17:51]	TR News	 (NEW):  Spiral Linux offers a handy tool that can keep you from spiraling if you lose a file http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Spiral_Linux_offers_a_handy_tool_that_can_keep_you_from_spirali.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Spiral_Linux_offers_a_handy_tool_that_can_keep_you_from_spirali.gmi 
[17:51]	schestowitz	yes
[17:51]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
[17:51]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Spiral Linux offers a handy tool that can keep you from spiraling if you lose a file
[17:51]	schestowitz	desktops
[17:51]	schestowitz	laptops
[17:51]	schestowitz	hence, windows
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[17:58]	TR News	Techrights Microsoft GitHub: A Hair Salon Where You Get Awards for Nothing (NFT Vanity) http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/Microsoft_GitHub_A_Hair_Salon_Where_You_Get_Awards_for_Nothing_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/Microsoft_GitHub_A_Hair_Salon_Where_You_Get_Awards_for_Nothing_.gmi 
[17:58]	TR Bot	 Techrights Microsoft GitHub: A Hair Salon Where You Get Awards for Nothing (NFT Vanity)
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[18:00]	TR News	 (NEW):   : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Android_Leftovers.gmi 
[18:00]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[18:11]	TR News	Techrights Linux.com Became Mostly Dead, de Facto Marketing Site of "Linux" Foundation Products (Unrelated to Linux) http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/Linux_com_Became_Mostly_Dead_de_Facto_Marketing_Site_of_Linux_F.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/Linux_com_Became_Mostly_Dead_de_Facto_Marketing_Site_of_Linux_F.gmi 
[18:11]	TR Bot	 Techrights Linux.com Became Mostly Dead, de Facto Marketing Site of "Linux" Foundation Products (Unrelated to Linux)
[18:14]	TR News	"Ok, it'll be interesting to see how things pan out in Ottawa, wasn't aware that the Fred lab was shutdown!! I think Cognos is bigger than QRadar though, isn't all of development there?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1shcHnjv
[18:14]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1shcHnjv )
[18:20]	TR News	"Happens so rarely at IBM that it is satisfying when those with big egos and are useless get their due." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1sjui9aD
[18:20]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1sjui9aD )
[18:31]	TR News	Techrights For People at Red Hat "Job is at Risk" http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/For_People_at_Red_Hat_Job_is_at_Risk.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/For_People_at_Red_Hat_Job_is_at_Risk.gmi 
[18:31]	TR Bot	 Techrights For People at Red Hat "Job is at Risk"
[18:37]	TR News	The latest 3 are "CLOSURES" (companies shutting down) https://esd.wa.gov/about-employees/WARN
[18:37]	TR Bot	 ESDWAGOV - Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification (WARN)
[18:38]	TR News	More Rivian layoffs now. The debt is being passed there.
[18:38]	TR News	Winona automotive plant to permanently close; more than 120 layoffs
● May 06
[19:05]	TR News	Techrights Tesla Has Become a Ponzi Scheme or a 'Meme Stock' http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/Tesla_Has_Become_a_Ponzi_Scheme_or_a_Meme_Stock.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/Tesla_Has_Become_a_Ponzi_Scheme_or_a_Meme_Stock.gmi 
[19:05]	TR Bot	 Techrights Tesla Has Become a Ponzi Scheme or a 'Meme Stock'
[19:20]	TR News	Freenode added a server or virtual server this year https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode
[19:20]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[19:21]	TR News	Libera.Chat uses 28 server, OFTC 19 https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=Libera.Chat https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=OFTC
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[19:22]	TR News	libreplanet over, no uploads since 9 months ago (they do not upload only libreplanet stuff) https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/
[19:22]	TR Bot	 libreplanet's profile GNU MediaGoblin
[19:23]	TR News	This year this shows the same GNU/Linux measures as statCounter https://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
[19:23]	TR Bot	 OS Statistics
[19:25]	psydroid2	https://nltimes.nl/2024/05/06/eindhoven-celebrate-psvs-25th-football-championship-city-tour-party-monday
[19:25]	TR Bot	 Eindhoven to celebrate PSV's 25th football championship with city tour, party on Monday | NL Times
[19:25]	TR News	GNU/Linux at 5% in Jordan? https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/jordan/#monthly-200902-202405
[19:25]	TR Bot	 Desktop Operating System Market Share Jordan | Statcounter Global Stats
[19:27]	TR News	ChromeOS+GNU/Linux @ 5% https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/philippines/#monthly-200902-202405
[19:27]	TR Bot	 Desktop Operating System Market Share Philippines | Statcounter Global Stats
[19:31]	TR News	Nigeria: 6+% for GNU/Linux https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/nigeria/#monthly-200902-202405
[19:31]	TR Bot	 Desktop Operating System Market Share Nigeria | Statcounter Global Stats
[19:35]	schestowitz	psydroid2: Nigeria: 6+% for GNU/Linux https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/nigeria/#monthly-200902-202405
[19:35]	schestowitz	oops
[19:35]	schestowitz	wrong page
[19:35]	schestowitz	this:
[19:35]	schestowitz	https://www.manutd.com/en/matches/matchcenter?matchId=2367893
[19:35]	TR Bot	 Crystal Palace vs Manchester United - English Premier League 06 May 2024 | Manchester United | Manchester United
[19:35]	schestowitz	it's a firefox bug that only i suffer from
[19:35]	schestowitz	they manage to botch something so basic
[19:35]	psydroid2	they should rename it to firebug
[19:42]	admfubar	these go to 11... https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-tests-using-mt-s-for-memory-speed-in-windows-11-task-manager/
[19:42]	TR Bot	 Microsoft tests using MT/s for memory speed in Windows 11 Task Manager
[19:44]	admfubar	https://www.firstpost.com/tech/stanford-report-claims-ai-has-hit-human-level-intelligence-can-perform-at-the-level-of-a-human-13767541.html
[19:44]	TR Bot	report claims AI has hit Human-level intelligence, can perform at the level of a human Firstpost
[19:45]	psydroid2	gimmicks 11
[19:46]	psydroid2	it took 20+ years for them to do it, but they've finally managed
[19:49]	schestowitz	IMA DUMP LINUX FOR DE TASK MAAANAGER
[19:50]	TR News	RTO: way to lay people off. See latest comment: https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1shcHnjv
[19:50]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1shcHnjv )
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[19:52]	TR News	In Asia only a quarter of Windows users use Vista 11 and "growth" has stalled. This is unprecedented for Windows. https://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/asia/#monthly-202209-202405
[19:52]	TR Bot	 Desktop Windows Version Market Share Asia | Statcounter Global Stats
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[20:05]	admfubar	and they will make it the most secure version ever...  https://www.securityweek.com/microsoft-overhauls-cybersecurity-strategy-after-scathing-csrb-report/
[20:05]	TR Bot	Overhauls Cybersecurity Strategy After Scathing CSRB Report - SecurityWeek
[20:08]	admfubar	https://slashdot.org/story/24/05/06/1720210/40000-ai-narrated-audiobooks-flood-audible?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed
[20:08]	TR Bot	 40,000 AI-Narrated Audiobooks Flood Audible - Slashdot
[20:08]	TR News	Techrights Windows Already Down to 1% "Market Share" in Some Countries http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/Windows_Already_Down_to_1_Market_Share_in_Some_Countries.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/Windows_Already_Down_to_1_Market_Share_in_Some_Countries.gmi 
[20:08]	TR Bot	 Techrights Windows Already Down to 1% "Market Share" in Some Countries
[20:13]	psydruid	wasn't the plan to get them addicted and collect fees later?
[20:13]	TR News	Techrights Southern Asia is All Android (Majority) Now http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/Southern_Asia_is_All_Android_Majority_Now.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/05/06/Southern_Asia_is_All_Android_Majority_Now.gmi 
[20:13]	TR Bot	 Techrights Southern Asia is All Android (Majority) Now
[20:14]	psydruid	it looks like the only fees they're going to collect are from the captive base in western(ised) countries
[20:17]	TR News	"This is easy to do using shell-command and a call to the "sort" program." gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20240505-0.gmi
[20:19]	TR News	"This is a shell function that works like echo, except it echoes all the arguments in random order." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2024-05-06-recho.gmi
[20:20]	TR News	SpellBinding: CDYNOSI Wordo: DOWRY gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2024-05-06.gmi
[20:20]	TR News	How I clean jewelry gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/emily/20240505.gmi
[20:21]	TR News	"It has been quite a while since I last came here. I started drinking again, like not in an alcoholic way but like drinks with friends. I left it for no reason and started it for no reason." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1822
[20:21]	TR News	"Been looking through the window for a while, but I figure that's creepy and I should just head on inside and grab a drink with the rest of yous :)" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1821
[20:22]	admfubar	https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/biden-administration-preparing-to-prevent-americans-from-using-kaspersky.454058/
[20:22]	TR Bot	 Biden administration preparing to prevent Americans from using Kaspersky | Wilders Security Forums
[20:23]	TR News	"It finally happened. Windows 11 annoyed me so much that I completely removed it from all my systems. I've always kept it around in dual-boot for work purposes..." gemini://dazlab.uk/tinylog/_tl0002.gmi
[20:24]	TR News	Re-discovering Gemini gemini://dazlab.uk/tinylog/_tl0001.gmi
[20:24]	TR News	"I've been on Naiad for approximately forty days and forty nights now, enough to see Thalassa looming through the sky twice, and I must admit that more than anything else, I miss my cat. My "office" is adjacent to the greenhouse and atmospherically controlled at a temperature much more to my liking than when I'm strolling among the flora." gemini://thurk.org/blog/615.gmi
[20:25]	TR News	My Enduring Love Affair with Linux: A Journey Through Open Source gemini://dazlab.uk/log/2024/0005.gmi
[20:26]	TR News	Microsofter trying to EEE Gemini gemini://auragem.letz.dev/devlog/20240506.gmi
[20:27]	TR News	"The mainline Internet was once a mere set of tools and connections to access information on computers that were not yours. The openness and increasing ease of such access through the 1990s and early 2000s led to people adopting the Internet in droves." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2024/202405/20240506-2022-week-17-18-thoughts-and-photos.gmi
[20:27]	TR News	Gemini spam gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1823
[20:28]	TR News	"I'm sharing five good things from this past week. I missed last week because my sister and I made dinner for our ladies' Bible Study on Friday, a big project but a lot of fun. We made a beloved meal from college days, Thai peanut chicken wraps. And Caesar salad, which I fondly remember Melissa asking for every year on her birthday when we were kids." gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/emily/20240504.gmi
[20:29]	admfubar	https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/05/say-hello-to-nasas-new-36-pixel-camera/
[20:29]	TR Bot	NASA is betting on a 36-pixel camera | TechCrunch
[20:35]	TR News	GPS jamming in the Baltic region: Is Russia responsible? https://www.dw.com/en/gps-jamming-in-the-baltic-region-is-russia-responsible/a-68993942
[20:35]	TR Bot	jamming in the Baltic region: Is Russia responsible? DW 05/05/2024
[20:37]	TR News	"moscow-says" as journalism https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-05-04/nato-drills-show-it-is-preparing-for-potential-conflict-with-russia-moscow-says
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[21:02]	TR News	 (NEW):  Ubuntu 24.10 Oracular Oriole Is Slated for Release on October 10th, 2024 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Ubuntu_24_10_Oracular_Oriole_Is_Slated_for_Release_on_October_1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/05/06/Ubuntu_24_10_Oracular_Oriole_Is_Slated_for_Release_on_October_1.gmi 
[21:02]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Ubuntu 24.10 Oracular Oriole Is Slated for Release on October 10th, 2024
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[22:51]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp1AHkGiuw0
[22:51]	TR Bot	https://yt.oelrichsgarcia.de/watch?v=kp1AHkGiuw0
[22:51]	TR Bot	not resolve host: yt.oelrichsgarcia.de ( status 0 @ https://yt.oelrichsgarcia.de/watch?v=kp1AHkGiuw0 )
[22:52]	DaemonFC	$2.99 Big Mac in the 90s?
[22:52]	DaemonFC	I remember when they ran them on 2 for $4 all the time.
[22:53]	DaemonFC	"Super Size it for 39 cents"
[22:53]	DaemonFC	Yeah, I remember that too.
[22:53]	DaemonFC	An entire super size Big Mac meal with this insanely huge coke and fries was like less than $3.50
[22:55]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp1AHkGiuw0
[22:56]	DaemonFC	I liked the part where he says McDonalds isn't interested in the product itself, but in real estate.
[22:56]	DaemonFC	At the end of the month their franchisees need to pay the rent no matter what.
[22:56]	DaemonFC	Yeah, this insulates corporate, at least until the franchisees start losing so much money that they give up the franchise.
[22:56]	DaemonFC	Because there's no way to operate in California and pay the rent to McDonalds.
[22:58]	DaemonFC	The franchisee owes McDonalds rent, an "R Fee" of 12%, and a Marketing and Royalty fee each of 4%.
[22:58]	DaemonFC	So they make most of their money off the rent, which stays the same regardless of how badly the franchisee is getting beaten up by the economy and the cost of food input and labor.
[22:59]	DaemonFC	So a lot of the money goes to the McDonalds Corporation for not doing a hell of a lot.
● May 06
[23:00]	DaemonFC	50 cents for a Big Mac in 1971.
[23:00]	DaemonFC	$2.30 by 1988.
[23:01]	DaemonFC	$2.50 at 2005.
[23:01]	DaemonFC	$5.60 in 2023.
[23:01]	DaemonFC	So for the majority of my life there was really not that much cost increase in Big Macs.
[23:02]	DaemonFC	Between 1988 and 2008, the price didn't skyrocket, but then it doubled in the next 15 years.
[23:03]	DaemonFC	So by this measure, the dollar has lost over 60% of its value since I've been alive, but very nearly all of that has happened in the past 15 years.
[23:41]	psydruid	a Big Mac for $17.59 is insane
[23:55]	psydruid	just go to a proper restaurant then