●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, June 06, 2022 ●● ● Jun 06 [00:00] schestowitz_TR2 iirc, you did branish a knife [00:00] schestowitz_TR2 and did not plead innocent at the end [00:00] DaemonFC I had one on me, it's not the same. [00:00] DaemonFC Illinois doesn't have no contest. [00:00] DaemonFC And you have about a 3-4% chance of being found Not Guilty no matter what. [00:00] DaemonFC So worse is coming if you go to court. [00:00] schestowitz_TR2 you got angry at Luis [00:01] schestowitz_TR2 and did make threats [00:01] DaemonFC Like some banana republic dictatorship or China. [00:01] schestowitz_TR2 with a weapon available [00:01] DaemonFC Fuck that judge. [00:01] DaemonFC I hope she gets cunt rot. [00:01] schestowitz_TR2 so quit huffin' and puffin' about "immigrants" [00:01] schestowitz_TR2 you married one [00:01] DaemonFC He's not an illegal alien criminal. [00:01] DaemonFC We could use 100,000 more just like him. [00:02] schestowitz_TR2 this is a sort of bigotry I raerely see from gays [00:02] schestowitz_TR2 like the ones who here, in thr Town Hall [00:02] schestowitz_TR2 held a protest, LGB, drop the T" [00:02] DaemonFC They'd work two jobs before they were jogging around in the street putting motorists in danger of being arrested over their sorry ass. [00:02] schestowitz_TR2 and caused a major scene [00:02] schestowitz_TR2 you moan about immigrants [00:02] schestowitz_TR2 and criminnals [00:02] schestowitz_TR2 and you lose sight of yourself [00:02] schestowitz_TR2 the stereotypical american [00:03] schestowitz_TR2 moaning about other countries [00:03] schestowitz_TR2 while aggressing dozens of them at a time [00:03] DaemonFC If I didn't have good brakes, I'd be under arrest again. [00:03] DaemonFC I can see why people snap and set those people on fire. [00:03] DaemonFC Fucking asshole. [00:03] DaemonFC Can you believe that shit? [00:03] DaemonFC All you can do is honk and give the guy the finger. [00:04] TR News Links 05/06/2022: Success Story in Villupuram GNU/Linux Users Group (V-GLUG) and MiTubo 1.1 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/05/mitubo-1-1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/05/mitubo-1-1/ [00:04] TR Bot Links 05/06/2022: Success Story in Villupuram GNU/Linux Users Group (V-GLUG) and MiTubo 1.1 | Techrights [00:04] DaemonFC I had my dashcam on, so at least it would have shown that he ran out in front of me. [00:04] DaemonFC Not that it would be much help with these idiots they would have in the local jury pool. [00:04] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165662 [00:04] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:05] DaemonFC while aggressing dozens of them at a time [00:05] DaemonFC Trump was right about Mexico/ [00:05] DaemonFC Gross. [00:05] DaemonFC And they send us their worst, and drugs. [00:05] schestowitz_TR2 BACK TO TECH NOW [00:05] DaemonFC He should have just started firing cruise missiles at their drug compounds if they won't. [00:06] schestowitz_TR2 sorry, caps [00:06] schestowitz_TR2 not intentional [00:06] DaemonFC What would they do? [00:06] schestowitz_TR2 back to tech [00:06] schestowitz_TR2 mx issue aren't tech [00:06] schestowitz_TR2 it's just you huffin and puffin with bigotry [00:06] schestowitz_TR2 mexicans are nicer than their american neighbours [00:06] DaemonFC LOL [00:06] schestowitz_TR2 the ones I was friends with her were modest [00:06] DaemonFC Must be why anywhere you go, there's kidnappings. [00:06] schestowitz_TR2 I cannot say the same about USians [00:06] schestowitz_TR2 the USians think they own the plac [00:06] schestowitz_TR2 eevery place [00:07] schestowitz_TR2 even outsiode their country [00:07] DaemonFC They have no control over their own country, much less their major cities. [00:07] schestowitz_TR2 let's compare US gun deaths to mx? [00:07] DaemonFC We have the capability of pushing a button and ending that drug problem real quick. [00:07] schestowitz_TR2 I ber per capita US is several times worse [00:07] DaemonFC And all they can do is complain to the UN or something, which nobody gives a fuck about. [00:08] schestowitz_TR2 ok, take it to another channel [00:08] schestowitz_TR2 this is pointless and off-topic [00:08] schestowitz_TR2 and cruel, raist etc. [00:08] schestowitz_TR2 --- [00:09] DaemonFC We need a governor who will start pushing back against the UN, which wants us to be poor and unable to resist their Green New Deal and other bullshit. [00:09] DaemonFC That's what's unfolding under Biden. There is no gas shortage. He wanted this. [00:09] TR News Intel is running bots in Linux kernel ML https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/6/5/353 [00:09] TR Bot LKML: kernel test robot: [peterz-queue:sched/idle 15/37] kernel/time/tick-broadcast.c:627:9: error: call to undeclared function 'arch_test_bit'; ISO C99 and later do not support implicit function declarations [00:09] DaemonFC Same with Pritzker and his 40 cent a gallon tax hike. No improvement in the roads. [00:10] TR News Kaffeine still going. I thought it had gone away. Like AmaroK https://idroot.us/install-kaffeine-ubuntu-22-04/ [00:10] TR Bot How To Install Kaffeine on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS - idroot [00:10] DaemonFC What construction there is going on around here seems to be digging up good roads and creating a nuisance so union workers can fill them back in and go dig up something else there's nothing wrong with. [00:11] TR News Run them without it... https://www.maketecheasier.com/fix-no-sim-card-detected-android/ [00:11] TR Bot How to Fix 'No SIM Card Detected' Error on Android and iPhone - Make Tech Easier [00:11] DaemonFC They never dig up one of those roads it looks like they test bombs on. [00:11] DaemonFC MinceR, This is probably no better than Hungary. [00:11] schestowitz_TR2 Hun, Gary, Indiana [00:11] DaemonFC It seems to me there's plenty of money for construction, they just go tear up something there's nothing wrong with and fill it back in. [00:12] DaemonFC Then they go circle jerk themselves on the clock as well. (Guessing.) [00:12] DaemonFC MinceR said that someone in Hungary filled in a pothole and the court made him pay a fine and go tear his patch back out. [00:13] DaemonFC I filled a pothole leading into our parking lot with a back of cold patch asphalt and then tamped it down, and then the city saw it and A YEAR LATER tore it out and refilled it. [00:13] DaemonFC Whatever... [00:13] DaemonFC At least I didn't lose another strut. [00:14] DaemonFC *bag [00:14] DaemonFC Mine was holding up fine. [00:14] DaemonFC They replaced it with something that looks almost identical, after taking all afternoon on it and blocking my driveway. [00:14] TR News Intel bugs https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/6/5/326 [00:14] TR Bot LKML: Christophe JAILLET: [PATCH] stmmac: intel: Fix an error handling path in intel_eth_pci_probe() [00:15] DaemonFC Anyway, schestowitz_TR2 I found a Japanese Steve Winwood CD collection. [00:15] DaemonFC It's amazing there's such a huge market there for American stuff, in English. They've got decent taste though. [00:15] DaemonFC Almost nothing they bother to press as a CD is crap from the last 20 years. [00:17] DaemonFC They did a pretty good compilation of American stuff on Sony's label and then stopped with stuff from the 90s. [00:17] DaemonFC It was a good run. [00:17] DaemonFC They were marketing it "Blu Spec 2" or something. I looked at the technical claims and they say burning a CD with a Blu Ray drive is better somehow. [00:17] DaemonFC Riiiiight. [00:17] TR News Sometimes I laugh inside when I see such one-liner changes discussed heavily... and then comes AMD sinking like 300,000 lines of code that nobody even checks, discusses, tests https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/6/5/324 [00:17] TR Bot LKML: Aleksander Mazur: [PATCH] /proc/modules: honor kptr_restrict even without CONFIG_KALLSYMS [00:17] DaemonFC If it deviates too much from the specification, there'd be CD players that couldn't read it. [00:17] DaemonFC So I smell bullshit. [00:18] TR News Linux is not the best kernel, but it has a lot of stuff in it. Even too much stuff. [00:20] TR News Billions of people use Linux not because it is best. The same reason many people work at and shop at Walmart. It has little to do with quality. It's about the size, variety, and market dynamics. [00:20] DaemonFC IIRC, those 80 and 84 minute CDs are not entirely compatible with every drive out there. [00:20] DaemonFC But I recall the list of models that couldn't play them was small and mostly the early CD players if people still had them. [00:21] schestowitz_TR2 Microsoft paul [00:21] schestowitz_TR2 https://www.thurrott.com/dev/268085/microsoft-releases-windows-app-sdk-1-1 [00:21] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thurrott.com/dev/268085/microsoft-releases-windows-app-sdk-1-1 ) [00:21] schestowitz_TR2 ""Please turn JavaScript on and reload the page. [00:21] schestowitz_TR2 DDoS protection by Cloudflare [00:21] schestowitz_TR2 LOL [00:21] DaemonFC Yeah, noticed that. [00:22] schestowitz_TR2 he outsourced his web site [00:22] schestowitz_TR2 does it run Windows? [00:22] schestowitz_TR2 or superwindows? [00:22] schestowitz_TR2 supersite for superwindows [00:22] schestowitz_TR2 hiding behind clownflare [00:22] DaemonFC SuperWindows? LOL [00:22] schestowitz_TR2 serving pages just to one IP block [00:22] schestowitz_TR2 clownflare [00:22] schestowitz_TR2 windows 'security' [00:22] DaemonFC Like those idiots that were pirating Server and running it on a desktop. [00:22] DaemonFC Swearing it was better than "Normal Windows". [00:22] schestowitz_TR2 better wallpaper [00:23] schestowitz_TR2 and no media player? [00:23] schestowitz_TR2 they could apt-ge... oh, never mind [00:23] DaemonFC Yes, a Server needs DirectX, Windows Media Player, Internet Explorer, and a GUI. [00:23] DaemonFC Everybody knows that. [00:23] schestowitz_TR2 solitaire [00:23] schestowitz_TR2 for when you get bored [00:23] schestowitz_TR2 and wait for the expert engineer (box rebooter) [00:23] *mimi has quit (Quit: connection closed.) [00:24] DaemonFC Microsoft is quickly backpeddling from the "Windows Store" even though they swear up and down they are not. [00:24] schestowitz_TR2 Microsoft Soter [00:24] DaemonFC Just "opening up the APIs" to Win32. LOL [00:24] schestowitz_TR2 Windows Store [00:24] schestowitz_TR2 what else in store? [00:24] schestowitz_TR2 Azure Store? [00:24] DaemonFC The ones they thought they'd bait them in with. [00:24] schestowitz_TR2 GitHub Store? [00:25] schestowitz_TR2 Bob Store? [00:25] schestowitz_TR2 Epsterin Store? [00:25] schestowitz_TR2 Kids store? [00:25] schestowitz_TR2 stoe for kids [00:25] schestowitz_TR2 not store that sells kids [00:25] schestowitz_TR2 that would be gross [00:26] TR News Patents harming progress http://infojustice.org/archives/44020 [00:26] TR Bot A Study of Patent Thickets | infojustice [00:27] DaemonFC Sells them as Refurbished. Bill Gates didn't like that one. [00:27] DaemonFC Put it on Warehouse Deals. Used - Like New. [00:28] TR News "Zemlin, James "Jim" of St. Paul, MN passed away at age 84 on Saturday, Jan. 22, 2022" https://www.startribune.com/obituaries/detail/0000415540/ [00:28] TR Bot James 'Jim' Zemlin Obituary | Star Tribune [00:30] TR News Cray Research Was Founded by Seymour Cray, Not Jim Zemlins Grandfather (and No, Zemlin Cannot Really Speak Japanese as He Claims) http://techrights.org/2020/08/17/status-by-association/ [00:30] TR Bot Cray Research Was Founded by Seymour Cray, Not Jim Zemlins Grandfather (and No, Zemlin Cannot Really Speak Japanese as He Claims) | Techrights [00:32] TR News When Zemlin travels to Japan he says not a work in Japanese. Because, contrary to what he has long claimed in Microsoft's LinkedIn, he does not speak the language. He built a career based on lies and being a vigilant imposter. [00:33] schestowitz_TR2 https://pics.me.me/jim-zemlin-3rd-executive-director-at-linux-foundation-matthew-garrett-27672763.png [00:34] TR News Linux Foundation hires people who reject Linux http://techrights.org/2022/04/04/dan-whiting-linux-foundation/ [00:34] TR Bot Linux Foundation Has a New Lead Editor. Like Jim Zemlin, He Doesnt Use Linux. Hes in Love with iPad. | Techrights [00:36] TR News Jim Zemlin is openwashing Saudi-owned anti-workers PROPRIETARY Uber. Man for sale. "Highlighting the news of Ubers Gold membership in the Linux Foundation, Executive Director Jim Zemlin led the Uber Open Summit with the first keynote of the day" https://eng.uber.com/uber-open-summit-2018-highlights/ [00:36] TR Bot Collaboration at Scale: Highlights from Uber Open Summit 2018 - Uber Engineering Blog [00:38] TR News 'Linux' Foundation "Diversity Equity and Inclusion..." in partnership with Microsoft...https://www.linuxfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/bnr_email_deisurv_071921a.png Diversity: http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/linux-foundation-microsoft-outsourcing/ [00:38] TR Bot People From Half a Dozen Countries May be Banned From Participating in the Linux Foundation Because Its Outsourcing Many Projects to Microsoft/GitHub | Techrights [00:40] TR News When the publisher is funded by Jeffrey Esptein's buddy Bill Gates https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38012708 and learned nothing from the cover-up of Jimmy Savile [00:40] TR Bot Microsoft partners with old rival Linux Foundation - BBC News [00:42] TR News "Did you know that The Linux Foundation is in the Vaccine Passport business?' https://lunduke.substack.com/p/6-dirty-secrets-of-the-linux-and [00:42] TR Bot 6 Dirty Secrets of the Linux and Open Source Industry [00:43] TR News June 2022 already, almost late 2022. Last Linux Foundation IRS filing online: "Tax Year 2018 Form 990O" https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/detailsPage?ein=460503801&name=LINUX%20FOUNDATION&city=&state=&countryAbbr=US&dba=&type=COPYOFRETURNS&orgTags=COPYOFRETURNS wanna bet there's a bit story behind this??? [00:43] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/detailsPage?ein=460503801&name=LINUX%20FOUNDATION&city=&state=&countryAbbr=US&dba=&type=COPYOFRETURNS&orgTags=COPYOFRETURNS ) [00:45] TR News Don't trust people whose career ambition is to meet "rich people" http://techrights.org/2020/08/27/reality-distortion-scams/ [00:45] TR Bot What is Linux? Who is Linux? The Answer Isnt Simple. The Foundations Are a Reality Distortion Scam Anyway. | Techrights [00:46] TR News OpenJS is a Microsoft front group. "...he is the only person ever retweeted by both Bill Gates" https://events.linuxfoundation.org/archive/2020/openjs-world/program/featured-speakers/ [00:46] TR Bot Featured Speakers | Linux Foundation Events [00:49] TR News 2017: Famous Criminal Bill Gates corrupting WHO (before making billions from COVID-19) https://www.ip-watch.org/2017/01/29/gates-foundation-whos-biggest-private-funder-ineligible-join/ [00:49] TR Bot Is Gates Foundation, WHOs Biggest Private Funder, Ineligible To Join WHO? - Intellectual Property Watch [00:50] TR News When you grill a criminal who was arrested at least twice already but Microsoft will ensure he won't be arrested again http://techrights.org/2020/10/14/bill-gates-transcripts-part-4/ [00:50] TR Bot Transcripts of Bill Gates Lies: Part IV (Last) | Techrights [00:52] TR News Something to remember this Jubilee Weekend http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/gates-epstein.jpg [00:54] TR News "The Mirror of Simple Souls" is a heretical piece of work, and that Marguerite Porette was burned at the stake for heresy and for the circulation of the Mirror is no surprise. gemini://envs.net/~negatethis/the-mirror.gmi [00:55] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D606.jpg [00:56] TR News "Let's be honest, all of this is predicated on the frankly MASSIVE assumption that Gemini will take off in a big way, rather than staying niche. And to be honest, I don't know that I see that happening." gemini://skylarhill.me/posts/capitalism-gemini.gmi [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 24.16 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [00:59] TR News Paying in fictional 'money' a fictional price for a failing company, derailed partly by Microsoft infiltrated over a decade back https://www.omm.com/our-firm/media-center/press-releases/omelveny-advises-broadcom-in-us61-billion-acquisition-of-vmware/ [00:59] TR Bot OMelveny Advises Broadcom in US$61 Billion Acquisition of VMware ● Jun 06 [01:03] TR News "The Administrative Council of the European Patent Organisation has elected Portuguese Antnio Campinos to fulfill his position as the EPO President." No, he was SELECTED by his friend, gangster and criminal Battistelli, from France. Campinos is FRENCH. 'Portuguese' imposter. https://lexdellmeier.com/en/blog/antnio-campinos-will-be-new-epo-president-june-2018 [01:03] TR Bot Campinos will be the new EPO President from June 2018 | LexDellmeier Markenanwalt, Designanwalt Mnchen - Schutzrechte Marken, Designs, Patente, Gebrauchsmuster, Urheberrechte - Mark [01:04] TR News Joining the EPO mafia https://www.worldtrademarkreview.com/article/alicante-munich-campinos-leave-euipo-take-epo-presidency EPO is on fire right now; and EU is trying to put out the fire by blinding us, not extinguishing anything http://techrights.org/wiki/Antnio_Campinos [01:04] TR Bot From Alicante to Munich: Campinos to leave EUIPO to take up EPO presidency - World Trademark Review [01:04] TR Bot Antnio Campinos - Techrights [01:06] schestowitz Missing disclcosure. IAM, the organiser, received bribes from EPO to spread lies and other propaganda, even to promote ILLEGAL agenda. [01:06] schestowitz https://d4r15a7jvr7vs.cloudfront.net/ [01:06] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://d4r15a7jvr7vs.cloudfront.net/ ) [01:06] schestowitz ewoJICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICJidWNrZXQiOiAiZmlsZXMubGJyLmNsb3VkIiwKCSAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAia2V5IjogInB1YmxpYy9tZWRpYS9pbWFnZXMvaXBiY19jb25uZWN0XzIwMjBfYmxvZ19wb3N0Xy1fa2V5bm90ZS5wbmciLAoJICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICJlZGl0cyI6IHsKCSAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICJyZXNpemUiOiB7CgkgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICJ3aWR0aCI6IDk0NSwKCSAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgImhlaWdodCI6IDUyNiwKCSAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgImZpdCI6ICJjb3ZlciIKCSAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIH0KCSAgICAgICAgICAgICAgI [01:06] schestowitz CB9CgkgICAgICAgICAgICB9 [01:07] schestowitz https://www.iam-media.com/article/ipbc-connect-campinos-and-iancu-confirmed [01:07] TR Bot Campinos and Iancuconfirmed for IPBC Connect - IAM [01:11] AdmFubar https://www.ghacks.net/2022/06/05/dont-redeem-microsoft-rewards-points-right-now-you-may-get-banned/ [01:11] TR Bot Don't redeem Microsoft Rewards points right now: you may get banned - gHacks Tech News [01:17] DaemonFC LOL [01:29] MinceR 06 012320 < DaemonFC> Yes, a Server needs DirectX, Windows Media Player, Internet Explorer, and a GUI. [01:29] MinceR it wouldn't be "modern" without a GUI, don't you know [01:31] TR News "for-linus" (variations: "fixes-for-linus", "for_linus", "hwmon-for-linus" etc etc) https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/6/5/380 [01:31] TR Bot LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: [git pull] work.fd fix [01:35] TR News Bruised EPO Buys Media, Buildings, Reputation Laundering | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/05/epo-reputation-management/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/05/epo-reputation-management/ [01:35] TR Bot Bruised EPO Buys Media, Buildings, Reputation Laundering | Techrights [01:40] *immibis has quit (connection closed) [01:40] *immibis has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [01:41] TR News "Josh and Kurt talk about containers. There are a lot of opinions around what type of containers is best. Back when it all started there were only huge distro sized containers. Now we have a world with many different container types and sizes. Is one better?" https://opensourcesecurity.io/2022/06/05/episode-326-big-fat-containers/ [01:41] TR Bot Episode 326 Big fat containers Open Source Security [01:42] TR News Yesterday, the signing key of my OBS repositories has expired (I didnt know they do). I have the validity extended now." https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/06/key-validity-extension-of-obs-repository/ [01:42] TR Bot Key validity extension of OBS repository | There and back again [01:45] TR News Linus Torvalds: Linux 5.19-rc1 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165663 [01:45] TR Bot Linus Torvalds: Linux 5.19-rc1 | Tux Machines [01:46] schestowitz_TR2 within 180 seconds of his email [01:46] schestowitz_TR2 new record for me, I think [01:46] schestowitz_TR2 17:42:33 [01:46] schestowitz_TR2 Monday 6th of June 2022 12:45:30 AM [01:47] schestowitz_TR2 177 seconds [01:50] TR News With millions of euros wasted on an hours-long PR blitz (and paid-for media puff pieces) we know its just a matter of money; the media charges for its puff pieces http://techrights.org/2022/06/05/epo-reputation-management/ [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 24.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 32.75 ● Jun 06 [02:29] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, I see Sony quit brickwalling everything on the Blu Spec 2 CD "brand". [02:29] DaemonFC They actually did a better mastering job on some of these than MFSL did. [02:34] *matey (~matey@pzeavskfbwhvk.irc) has joined #techrights [02:34] matey someh4x0r: got it. congrats on the bridge being back up [02:34] matey roy, like so many people it seems, thinks that gays are somehow less bigoted than other people [02:35] matey theres probably a small amount of truth to that [02:35] matey but really gays are (as every targeted group ultimately wants people to realise) pretty much like anyone else [02:35] matey they may be a little less bigoted on average, but not a lot [02:36] matey fortunately most people arent frothing at the mouth bigots, at least among those who have completed a certain level of education in a country not considered "backwards" [02:36] matey blacks can be bigots, women can be bigots, gays can be bigots, and gay black women of course, can too [02:37] matey one would hope that the more of these groups you belong to, the more an individual would figure out that bigotry is crap [02:37] matey but thats the thing about bigotry. it makes sense to bigots when its aimed AT OTHER people than themselves [02:37] matey so a gay black woman might not be bigoted against gays, blacks and women [02:38] matey but straight white men? who knows? [02:38] matey fortunately most people arent so bigoted, and that carries over to gays and blacks and women too-- most of whom probably arent very bigoted [02:38] matey (ive met my share of bigoted gays though) [02:39] matey the classic is gay men hating lesbians or (sometimes) women in general [02:39] matey thats gay men who hate lesbians, not lesbians who hate gay men-- im sure those exist too [02:40] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-050622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-050622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-050622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-050622.txt [02:40] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, June 05, 2022 [02:40] matey of course even if you find one, its all relative [02:40] matey i mean, if youre looking for people with ANY BIGOTRY AT ALL thats probably everyone on earth [02:40] matey but who cares [02:41] TR News Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-050622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-050622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-050622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-050622.txt [02:41] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, June 05, 2022 [02:41] matey if youre looking for people with significant or extreme levels of bigotry, good news, theyre a minority [02:41] matey and everyone else is somewhere in between, but its not like you can just count bigots and have useful information come out of that [02:41] matey youd have to quantify somehow [02:42] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-050622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-050622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-050622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-050622.txt [02:42] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, June 05, 2022 [02:42] matey imo politically, our gay bigot has placed himself somewhere between the mainstream centre and the alt-right, even if he votes democrat when it suits him [02:43] matey though i dont want to say alt-right, because its a catch all [02:43] TR News Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-050622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-050622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-050622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-050622.txt [02:43] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, June 05, 2022 [02:43] matey id rather say nazi, as in mixing hypocrisy with eugenics with executions [02:44] matey maybe its a relatively small level of nazi that doesnt round everyone up into camps [02:44] matey but just enough that mike godwin can stfu up and get back to being a lawyer or whatever [02:45] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [02:45] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [02:46] matey it would be easy to assume that i think theres some point in condemning the person here [02:46] matey i dont think it will make the slightest difference whatsoever [02:46] matey but ill condemn the politics anyway, because the politics are pseudoscientific nazi eugenics bullshit. [02:46] matey and might as well be called such [02:47] matey some things get disproven over and over and over [02:47] matey and it takes decades, generations, for it to find its home with the lunatic fringe [02:48] matey eugenics is almost completely baseless [02:48] matey the more you try to apply to any real world scenario, the more useless and less scientific it is [02:48] matey its on the margins of science, and belongs in a history book [02:49] matey but it will make smalltime nazis out of gay people who think theyre better than blacks, even though the nazis didnt give a fuck either way [02:49] matey gay, black, get in the shower [02:50] matey and people assume that one group will look out for the other [02:50] matey it happens. pretty rarely [02:50] matey youll find more people looking out for each other purely on the basis of sharing the human genome [02:50] matey than you will find special groups looking out for each other because they both belong to (different) special groups [02:51] matey the latter is opportunist political mythology [02:51] matey the former is giving a shit about humanity in general, which works better [02:51] matey youll note of course, that democrats DONT give a shit about humanity in general-- neither do republicans [02:52] matey both parties are completely unfit, and misanthropic and opportunist [02:52] matey and fucking useless [02:56] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-06-05.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-06-05.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.80 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.13 average k/sec., average swarm size 358.30 ● Jun 06 [03:05] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 36243 total Total number of pages in capsule: 40971 Active: active (running) since Fri 2022-05-27 10:17:06 BST; 1 weeks 2 days ago [03:06] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 136 MB TotalOut: 24 MB [03:07] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:09] DaemonFC fortunately most people arent frothing at the mouth bigots, at least among those who have completed a certain level of education in a country not considered "backwards" [03:09] IPFS QmXiFJikrpgJmTJdF5dxJErsXyTseRRcK6Ds2Jg9BBsTuL [03:09] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:09] DaemonFC Every country has a problem with a certain type of undesirable immigrant that comes there, rapes, murders, mugs, the police do nothing about it. [03:09] DaemonFC In the US, that's Mexico. [03:10] DaemonFC On that list, hitting you and having no car insurance isn't in the top 5, but it's enough reason to deport. [03:10] DaemonFC Or should be. [03:11] DaemonFC You look at the crime by prison population, and yeah, white people are about 15-20% of the prisoners, with like almost 70% of the population. Even in the states where it's 90%, they're usually not even half the prisoners. [03:11] DaemonFC The results speak for themselves. It's just that nobody is allowed to say that now without being "canceled". [03:12] DaemonFC White people are only about half their demographic weight on food stamps. [03:12] matey gay nazis are rare of course [03:13] matey Hitler was aware of Rhm's homosexuality. Their friendship shows in that Rhm remained one of the few intimates allowed to use the familiar German du (the German familiar form of "you") when conversing with Hitler.[12] Rhm was the only Nazi leader who dared to address Hitler by his first name "Adolf" or his nickname "Adi" rather than "mein Fhrer".[34] Their close association led to rumors that Hitler himself was homosexual. [03:13] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_R%C3%B6hm [03:13] TR Bot Ernst Rhm - Wikipedia [03:13] DaemonFC It's not like we have some people who don't want to do anything except take up space, but it's not that many. [03:13] DaemonFC Like, most of them will find some purpose, or at least not commit drive by shootings while they're on welfare. [03:14] DaemonFC It's not like people grow to resent others JUST for being on programs, it's that when that spills over and they're the ones committing all of the crimes, it should be "Okay, enough carrot. Now you get the stick!". [03:14] matey its weird how you can round up people and exterminate them in great numbers, only to be friends with one and make an exception [03:14] DaemonFC I didn't call for extermination of anyone. [03:15] DaemonFC They should have to go live in their own damned country and fill out paperwork to live in someone else's. That's how Canada does it. [03:15] DaemonFC Try going up there with no papers and living off them. [03:15] DaemonFC Ain't gonna happen. [03:15] DaemonFC Your ass is going back. [03:15] matey but he was purged anyway in a kangaroo court set up inside the leadership to rid itself of people who had (allegedly) plotted against them [03:15] matey and though he may have been innocent, rhm was a suspect [03:15] DaemonFC That's because no landlord or employer is going to take a risk because Canada will punish THEM if they rent to or employ someone without a Social Insurance Number. [03:16] DaemonFC And I don't think they just let people get in line and say "I'm here to vote. No I don't have ID. Here's a name. Might be mine. Might not. Let me in!". [03:17] DaemonFC One thing that I agree with schestowitz_TR2 about is that one rich parasite is as destructive to the nation as thousands of poor ones combined. [03:17] DaemonFC And people let them do whatever they want and call them bankers and businessmen. [03:18] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2 was also commenting over and over about how every single board member of most of these big companies and "foundations" is white while they root for BLM criminals to make themselves look woke. [03:19] DaemonFC They don't want to hire minorities. They have fake job interviews to tell the government they're trying real hard on that. [03:19] DaemonFC Trying REAAAAAL hard. There's just nobody out there. [03:19] DaemonFC Yes we did interview like 10 of them this week that could have done the job. White people got the job every time. Pure coincidence. -Wells Fargo :) [03:20] DaemonFC "We suggested DoorDash. Poor fellow said he went to Harvard! We had to have the police see him out." -The Linux Foundation [03:20] DaemonFC (Not actual quote, but you wonder if that's how things are going in these places.) [03:47] *AdmFubar has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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[07:16] matey "author is an idiot" [07:21] TR News "Slates is a free, open-source project that helps developers build a stylist, API documentation in no time." https://medevel.com/slate-api-doc/ [07:21] TR Bot Slate: Builds documentation for your API in mins [07:22] matey "/me pictures the scene from ren and stimpy where stimpy submits a poem to a gritty kitty contest, and imagines the ail license came about in much the same way [07:22] matey "you agree that this kitty litter will stay crunchy even in milk" [07:26] schestowitz_TR2 "this license forbids you from doing things that it cannot forbid you from doing" [07:26] schestowitz_TR2 they said the same about GPL [07:27] matey the gpl wasnt written by an idiot [07:27] matey nor did it try to reimagine your rights under copyright law [07:27] matey it simply gave some back [07:27] schestowitz_TR2 http://techrights.org/2020/08/18/daniel-wallace-v-gpl-revisited/ [07:27] TR Bot Daniel Wallace Explains Why He Challenged the GPL (Copyleft) in Court | Techrights [07:27] matey the ail tries to stop things that even copyright doesnt stop [07:28] matey the thing is, it cant do that [07:28] matey the most it can possibly do is "all rights reserved" [07:28] matey but even then, there are lots of things "all rights reserved" cant stop [07:29] matey if you put those things in a license, then youre combining legalese with make-believe [07:29] matey the gpl is guilty of none of this [07:31] matey there is of course, one clause in the gpl that probably wont survive [07:31] matey ariadne has talked about it, she could be wrong but she could also be right [07:32] matey if shes right, then its redundant and some of it is probably implied by other parts of the license [07:33] matey thats still a far cry from writing a license that has several lines that are nonsense in it (regardless of what people think of the gnu manifesto) [07:34] schestowitz_TR2 https://twitter.com/fsf/status/1533569370475184128 [07:34] TR Bot In 1989 we published the GNU #GPL. It is at the core of software freedom and it protects users' rights to run, copy https://t.co/cY3N4yh2SP [07:34] TR Bot In 1989 we published the GNU #GPL. It is at the core of software freedom and it protects users' rights to run, copy https://t.co/cY3N4yh2SP [07:34] schestowitz_TR2 wow, fsf still posting in twitter [07:34] matey if the gnu manifesto tried to be enforceable, then the same critique would apply [07:34] schestowitz_TR2 which requires proprietary software to post [07:34] matey wow, fsf still posting in twitter <- wait until they start posting on facebook [07:35] matey i expect an rfsf (russian free software foundation) any day now, in full compliance with the present regime [07:36] matey "free software is software that doesnt invade your freedom" [07:36] matey "and even if it did, it wouldnt be an invasion" [07:36] schestowitz_TR2 you know they use the PROPRIETARY web interface [07:36] schestowitz_TR2 with proprietary JS [07:36] schestowitz_TR2 because they upload photos [07:37] matey im less concerned about that and more concerned about the fact that the fsf has been jettisoning integrity for years [07:37] matey this is more of an amusing step backwards for them [07:37] schestowitz_TR2 https://twitter.com/fsf [07:37] TR Bot ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/fsf ) [07:37] schestowitz_TR2 uploading about half a dozen photos a day [07:37] matey its a much smaller issue than some of their problems [07:38] matey uploading about half a dozen photos a day <- sounds very jim/spamnil [07:38] matey fsf: we dont do anything [07:38] matey also fsf: and we took pictures! [07:38] schestowitz_TR2 wait, it says they use something called "iankrainbowstream" [07:39] Ariadne its a cron job afaik [07:39] schestowitz_TR2 https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/user/fsf [07:39] TR Bot NO TITLE [07:39] matey they have no real ideas [07:39] matey so theyre just revamping everything to make it seem new [07:40] matey in the process theyre destroying the fsf [07:40] matey or rather dismantling it and replacing it with a cheap imitation [07:40] schestowitz_TR2 Top ApplicationsCount% [07:40] schestowitz_TR2 github.com iankrainbowstream github.com/ian-kelling/rainbowstream 2,91634.4% [07:40] schestowitz_TR2 twitter.com Twitter Web Client twitter.com 1,62119.1% [07:40] schestowitz_TR2 mobile.twitter.com Twitter Lite mobile.twitter.com 1,40616.6% [07:40] schestowitz_TR2 corebird.baedert.org Corebird corebird.baedert.org 94911.2% [07:40] schestowitz_TR2 status.fsf.org FSFStatusnet status.fsf.org 5796.8% [07:41] schestowitz_TR2 so they use the web interface too [07:41] schestowitz_TR2 or used it [07:41] schestowitz_TR2 this past year they increassed posting volume [07:41] schestowitz_TR2 after they had cautioned that Twitter mandated JS [07:41] schestowitz_TR2 intsead they should have phased out [07:41] schestowitz_TR2 so it'sa a bit disappointing [07:41] matey after they had cautioned that Twitter mandated JS <- stallman probably had them stop [07:41] schestowitz_TR2 github.com/ian-kelling/rainbows [07:41] schestowitz_TR2 ian uses microsoft [07:42] schestowitz_TR2 proprietary software [07:42] matey then they turned the hose on him, and they did wtf they wanted anyway [07:42] matey ian uses microsoft <- sad [07:42] matey too many gnu developers use microsoft too [07:42] matey insert defensive comment about how its only for work (which it isnt necessarily) [07:42] schestowitz_TR2 Top Domains in URLsCount% [07:42] schestowitz_TR2 fsf.org 1,93351.8% [07:42] schestowitz_TR2 gnu.org 37810.1% [07:42] schestowitz_TR2 my.fsf.org 1935.2% [07:42] schestowitz_TR2 libreplanet.org 1634.4% [07:42] schestowitz_TR2 framatube.org 1634.4% [07:43] schestowitz_TR2 Most Retweeted UsersCount% [07:43] schestowitz_TR2 @endDRM - Defective by Design 738.5% [07:43] schestowitz_TR2 @EFF - EFF 627.3% [07:43] schestowitz_TR2 @johns_FSF - John Sullivan 607.0% [07:43] schestowitz_TR2 @fightfortheftr - Fight for the Future 536.2% [07:43] schestowitz_TR2 @libreoffice - LibreOffice 505.9% [07:43] schestowitz_TR2 my guess is that they USED to use the Web inteface [07:44] schestowitz_TR2 and now use this github thing which might be a private repos [07:44] schestowitz_TR2 as I cannot access it [07:44] matey Defective by Design EFF - EF johns_FSF fightfortheftr libreoffice <- all signed the letter except johns [07:44] schestowitz_TR2 404 [07:44] matey people from dbd including mattl [07:44] matey eff, fightfortf, document foundation [07:44] matey im telling you its not a coup anymore [07:44] matey its an occupation [07:44] matey youll figure it out in the next 5-10 years [07:44] schestowitz_TR2 those could be old links [07:44] matey when the fsf never recovers [07:45] schestowitz_TR2 fwiw, italo stepped down or was voted out in osi [07:45] matey those could be old links <- yes, that would be an amazing coincidence [07:45] schestowitz_TR2 but still in tdf afaik [07:45] matey italo stepped down or was voted out in osi <- tf does osi have to do with this [07:45] schestowitz_TR2 " [07:45] schestowitz_TR2 Curious why we're on Twitter? Visit fsf.org/twitter." [07:45] matey oh god [07:45] matey "why this [fucking shit] license?" [07:45] schestowitz_TR2 "Curious how we use social media? The Free Software Foundation uses a custom script to post to our GNU social, Mastodon, and Twitter accounts simultaneously. This means that you can find us on Twitter! [07:45] schestowitz_TR2 " [07:46] matey anytime the fsf puts a question mark on the end of something, you know its shit [07:46] matey even when they werent shit this was true [07:46] schestowitz_TR2 https://www.fsf.org/twitter [07:46] schestowitz_TR2 "However, we do find Twitter problematic, and there are some ethical pitfalls that come up the way most people use it. If you're currently a Twitter user, here are a few reasons to consider switching to Mastodon or GNU social, two free software (licensed under AGPLv3), decentralized microblogging services. [07:46] TR Bot Is the FSF on Twitter? Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [07:46] schestowitz_TR2 " [07:46] schestowitz_TR2 anyway, to their crerdit [07:46] matey The Free Software Foundation uses a custom script <- is it free software? [07:46] schestowitz_TR2 they clarify upfront it is done this way [07:46] schestowitz_TR2 tbh, social control media is, in general, not good [07:47] schestowitz_TR2 for a whole plethora of reasons [07:47] matey 1. its all crap [07:47] schestowitz_TR2 it took me w hile to get out of this 'gamification' [07:47] matey 2. its shit too [07:47] schestowitz_TR2 I left ALL of it [07:47] schestowitz_TR2 I did not have too [07:47] schestowitz_TR2 then I realised what a waste of time it had been [07:47] schestowitz_TR2 re fb [07:48] schestowitz_TR2 anything I COULD find out IF I was there, I find out by phone [07:48] matey indeed [07:48] schestowitz_TR2 if it's important, someone will tell me [07:48] matey thats how it always worked [07:48] schestowitz_TR2 lie my sister getting engaged 2 days ago [07:48] matey fomo distorts peoples concept of that [07:48] schestowitz_TR2 my wife's cousin phoned to tell us [07:48] schestowitz_TR2 within maybe one hour [07:49] schestowitz_TR2 /s/lie/like [07:49] matey i like that phones are rigged to give data to facebook too [07:49] matey contacts at least [07:49] schestowitz_TR2 "So, in support of software freedom and to protect your own information, switch from Twitter to a decentralized microblogging site. The FSF has a microblogging account on Mastodon, in addition to our GNU social account. The maintains a list of servers with open registration, allowing you to participate in the decentralized web with just a click of a few buttons. [07:49] schestowitz_TR2 " [07:49] matey that should be a class-action [07:49] schestowitz_TR2 that page makes it "fair enough" [07:49] matey "So, in support of software freedom and to protect your own information, switch from Twitter" <- we wont [07:49] schestowitz_TR2 and it seems they post via script [07:50] schestowitz_TR2 not the web UI [07:50] matey unless of course [07:50] schestowitz_TR2 shame they put the code on Microsoft [07:50] schestowitz_TR2 maybe it is 404 because Ian removed it from it [07:50] schestowitz_TR2 he is in the Board [07:50] matey they put the code on Microsoft <- they put it on github? [07:50] schestowitz_TR2 https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board/ [07:50] schestowitz_TR2 "Ian Kelling [07:50] schestowitz_TR2 Ian holds a bachelor's degree in computer science and is a continuous user, developer, and advocate for free software." [07:50] TR Bot timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board/ ) [07:50] schestowitz_TR2 he should know how to configure git [07:51] schestowitz_TR2 he does not need Microsoft [07:51] matey they have their own repo that predates github [07:51] schestowitz_TR2 maybe they removed it from github [07:51] schestowitz_TR2 w [07:51] schestowitz_TR2 whicvh is fair enough, a sign of progress [07:51] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [07:52] matey yes every 4 years, a baby step while nero fiddles [07:52] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [07:52] schestowitz_TR2 they posted only 9k "tweets" in FOURTEEN years [07:52] schestowitz_TR2 since 2008 [07:52] schestowitz_TR2 what did that net them? [07:52] schestowitz_TR2 I reckon they'd have loist nothing meaningful by not being there [07:52] schestowitz_TR2 I posted 951k "tweets" [07:53] matey its a lot easier to avoid twitter now that there are so many alternatives [07:53] schestowitz_TR2 they posted about 2 "tweets" a day [07:53] schestowitz_TR2 what did that give them [07:53] schestowitz_TR2 a few hundreds of people saw something? [07:53] matey but imo aral balkan has a better idea than gnu social, masturdon or any of that crap [07:53] schestowitz_TR2 worse [07:53] schestowitz_TR2 twitter is not more evil [07:53] schestowitz_TR2 I lost count of the reasons [07:53] matey i dont even love his idea, its just better than all of that other stuff [07:54] schestowitz_TR2 no thirdparty API [07:54] schestowitz_TR2 proprietary GUI [07:54] schestowitz_TR2 hiding who you follow from you [07:54] schestowitz_TR2 elon musk (IF) [07:54] schestowitz_TR2 censoring for gates while he PAYS them [07:54] schestowitz_TR2 provoking users for "engagement' [07:54] schestowitz_TR2 no more rss feeds [07:54] schestowitz_TR2 no more email alerts [07:54] schestowitz_TR2 the list is endless [07:54] schestowitz_TR2 I could name two dozen reasons easilyt [07:55] schestowitz_TR2 https://techrights.org/2020/07/24/twitter-annotated/. [07:55] schestowitz_TR2 visual [07:55] TR Bot How Social Control Media Works: The Case of Twitter, Visualised and Annotated | Techrights [07:55] matey 1. its crap [07:55] matey 2. its shit too [07:55] schestowitz_TR2 like FB, they want people to FEEL like they NEED it [07:55] schestowitz_TR2 which is totally false [07:55] schestowitz_TR2 but they studied the psychology of it [07:55] matey dumb fucks [07:55] schestowitz_TR2 to get addicated and a sense of affirmation in groups [07:55] matey hey kid, wanna get views? [07:56] matey "um..." [07:56] schestowitz_TR2 it reallyu leads to confrontations [07:56] matey "first ones free" [07:56] schestowitz_TR2 that's when they proifit more [07:56] schestowitz_TR2 http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/ [07:56] TR Bot Twitter Profits From Conflict | Techrights [07:56] schestowitz_TR2 fsf forces on sw freedom [07:56] matey fsf doesnt know what software freedom is [07:56] schestowitz_TR2 if it extended beyond that, it would certainly warn about the web [07:56] schestowitz_TR2 and caution more about things leike twitter [07:57] schestowitz_TR2 https://stallman.org/twitter.html [07:57] TR Bot Twitter [07:57] schestowitz_TR2 "Roy Schestowitz reports being censored ("shadowbanned") by Twitter for posting about Twitter censorship. [07:57] schestowitz_TR2 This kind of censorship is not obvious to the one being censored." [07:57] schestowitz_TR2 http://techrights.org/2021/12/22/fsfe-censorship/ [07:57] TR Bot FSFE Misuses FSFE Budget to Issue Frivolous Takedown Requests Against Critics | Techrights [07:57] schestowitz_TR2 (Twitter) [07:58] schestowitz_TR2 http://techrights.org/2022/01/18/ibm-censorship/ [07:58] schestowitz_TR2 IBM [07:58] TR Bot Someone Is Very Desperate to Knock My Account Off Twitter | Techrights [07:58] schestowitz_TR2 http://techrights.org/2021/12/29/osi-censorship/ [07:58] schestowitz_TR2 OSI [07:58] TR Bot OSI Might be Using COVID-19 to Report Their Critics to Twitter (for Suspension) | Techrights [07:58] matey gnefsfi [07:58] schestowitz_TR2 Twitter ids a censorship platform [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.63 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 06 [08:00] matey Twitter ids a censorship platform <- so is libera chat [08:00] matey so is lieplanet [08:00] matey so is the fsf board [08:00] schestowitz_TR2 twitter might soon be owned by a literal fraud [08:00] schestowitz_TR2 who equates his critics with terrorists [08:00] schestowitz_TR2 to discourage the media listening to them [08:00] schestowitz_TR2 what do you think will happen to dissent in Twitter? [08:01] schestowitz_TR2 it's bad enough as it is [08:01] matey probably the same thing that happened to reddit [08:01] schestowitz_TR2 http://techrights.org/2021/02/04/twitter-berserk/ [08:01] TR Bot Twitter: We Suspend Your Account For Quoting the Media About Bill Gates | Techrights [08:01] matey only less so [08:01] schestowitz_TR2 Reddit hardly even pretends [08:01] matey because in the version of history most like your question [08:01] schestowitz_TR2 Reddit is a shilling platform [08:02] schestowitz_TR2 it shadowbans people who don't suit conde nast's messaging stretgy [08:02] matey reddit wouldnt have found a ceo to implement what the corporation wanted [08:02] matey rather, the ceo would be the issue, and the corporation wouldnt do as much of their bidding [08:02] matey in other words, it would become like reddit, but in a less extreme way [08:03] matey it shadowbans people who don't suit conde nast's messaging stretgy < "Roy Schestowitz reports being censored ("shadowbanned") by Twitter [08:03] matey "for posting about Twitter censorship." [08:03] schestowitz_TR2 yes, it actually happened [08:03] schestowitz_TR2 I wrote about 4 blog posts to show that [08:03] matey i dont doubt it [08:03] schestowitz_TR2 around 2016 [08:03] schestowitz_TR2 or 2017 [08:04] matey my point is, its already like reddit [08:04] Ariadne im house hunting in vancouver [08:04] Ariadne and the hotel i am staying at [08:04] matey but reddit is still more extreme [08:04] schestowitz_TR2 canada :- [08:04] schestowitz_TR2 ) [08:04] Ariadne is across the street from microsoft [08:04] schestowitz_TR2 they have camps in all the major cities [08:04] schestowitz_TR2 they even relocate [08:04] schestowitz_TR2 to bribe the politicians [08:04] schestowitz_TR2 like in munich [08:04] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [08:05] schestowitz_TR2 scientology could be around the corner, too [08:05] schestowitz_TR2 they have a branch here [08:05] Ariadne probably is [08:05] Ariadne cant wait for a personality test [08:05] matey /me used to live very close to a scientology church [08:05] schestowitz_TR2 ryan's dad is in it [08:05] schestowitz_TR2 iirc [08:05] matey wow [08:05] schestowitz_TR2 it's insaner if you consider how it came about [08:06] schestowitz_TR2 a fiction book becoming a real-life cult [08:06] matey wouldnt be the first time [08:06] schestowitz_TR2 (assuming the story about the genesis of that... is accurate and not some dismissive caricature) [08:06] matey oh no, the story about hubbard saying the best way to make money is start a religion [08:06] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165675 [08:06] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [08:06] matey all thats true [08:07] schestowitz_TR2 vancouver must be super expensive [08:07] schestowitz_TR2 I had a housemate from there when I was 20 [08:07] matey i think its probably somewhat diverse in terms of rent [08:07] matey but maybe it isnt [08:07] schestowitz_TR2 she and I correspended for years after that [08:08] schestowitz_TR2 vancouver is a 'victim' of foreign investors [08:08] schestowitz_TR2 pumping up the home prices [08:08] schestowitz_TR2 nobody benefiots [08:08] schestowitz_TR2 many chinese investors [08:08] schestowitz_TR2 backup plan when when china hits the fan [08:10] matey if china hits the fan, canada will be half a plan [08:13] schestowitz_TR2 one of those countries where wealth leaks out as insurance plan [08:13] schestowitz_TR2 saudi arabia also has "estate" overseas [08:13] schestowitz_TR2 it drives up home prices [08:13] schestowitz_TR2 Ariadne's employer has just bagged about 30 million dollars in investment [08:13] schestowitz_TR2 I saw a press release this past weekend [08:16] TR News "fmedia is a fast asynchronous media player/recorder/converter for Windows, Linux and FreeBSD. 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Successful judgments against three pirate streaming sites required every ISP in the United States to implement blocking measures" https://torrentfreak.com/court-orders-for-all-us-isps-to-block-pirate-sites-have-been-suspended-220606/ | Source: Torrent Freak [09:53] TR Bot Orders For All US ISPs to Block Pirate Sites Have Been Suspended * TorrentFreak [09:53] TR News "Hosting provider LeaseWeb is being sued for copyright infringement at a federal court in California." https://torrentfreak.com/photographer-sues-leaseweb-for-hosting-copyright-infringing-sites-220605/ | Source: Torrent Freak [09:53] TR Bot Sues Leaseweb for Hosting 'Copyright Infringing' Sites * TorrentFreak [09:54] TR News "Ever wanted to run Linux in an exceptionally small footprint? Then [Reimu NotMoe] from [SudoMaker] has something for you! 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A deadbot is a chatbot whose training data that which shapes how and what it communicates is data based on a deceased person." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/05/the-ethics-of-when-machine-learning-gets-weird-deadbots/ | Source: Hackaday [09:56] TR Bot Ethics Of When Machine Learning Gets Weird: Deadbots | Hackaday [09:57] TR News "There are a few ways to access real quantum computers often for free over the Internet." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/05/quantum-computing-the-first-taste-is-free/ | Source: Hackaday [09:57] TR Bot Computing: The First Taste Is Free | Hackaday [09:57] TR News "[Etienne Sellan] got one of these lovely $5 logic analyzers." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/05/anyone-can-be-the-master-of-this-master-lock-safe/ | Source: Hackaday [09:57] TR Bot Can Be The Master Of This Master Lock Safe | Hackaday [09:59] TR News "Whats more fun than playing video games? Designing your own video game hardware, of course! If youve followed these pages long enough youll have seen dozens of great examples of homebrew hardware" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/05/odd-inputs-and-peculiar-peripherals-the-gamebug-turns-your-breadboard-into-a-game-console/ | Source: Hackaday [09:59] TR Bot Inputs And Peculiar Peripherals: The GameBug Turns Your Breadboard Into A Game Console | Hackaday [09:59] TR News 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: June 5th, 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165678 [09:59] TR Bot 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: June 5th, 2022 | Tux Machines ● Jun 06 [10:08] TR News Links 06/06/2022: Red Hat/Quarkus 2.7 and fmedia 1.27.4 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/06/fmedia-1-27-4/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/06/fmedia-1-27-4/ [10:08] TR News Links 06/06/2022: Red Hat/Quarkus 2.7 and fmedia 1.27.4 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/06/fmedia-1-27-4/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/06/fmedia-1-27-4/ [10:08] TR Bot Links 06/06/2022: Red Hat/Quarkus 2.7 and fmedia 1.27.4 | Techrights [10:08] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165679 [10:08] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [10:11] TR News More work on creation and deployment of SFS files https://bkhome.org/news/202206/more-work-on-creation-and-deployment-of-sfs-files.html Source: bkhome [10:11] TR Bot More work on creation and deployment of SFS files [10:22] *darwin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:22] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [10:23] *darwin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:23] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [10:23] TR News Sandvine Pulls Back From Russia as US, EU Tighten Control on Technology It Sells https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-03/sandvine-pulls-back-from-russia-as-us-eu-tighten-control-on-technology-it-sells [10:23] TR Bot - Are you a robot? [10:24] TR News Enter File or Directory with Space & Special Character in its Name? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165680 [10:24] TR Bot Enter File or Directory with Space & Special Character in its Name? | Tux Machines [10:24] TR News GNUnet 0.17.0 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165681 [10:24] TR Bot GNUnet 0.17.0 released | Tux Machines [10:25] TR News in systemd, not "in Linux" https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/chrony-time-services-linux [10:26] TR Bot How to configure chrony as an NTP client or server in Linux | Enable Sysadmin [10:30] TR News "This includes the entire application catalog, SDK, developer information, documentation, and a lot more. 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Source: restofworld [12:00] TR Bot Inside the risky world of Migrant TikTok - Rest of World [12:04] TR News "Please join us at the next regular Open NeuroFedora team meeting on Monday 9 May at 1300 UTC The meeting is a public meeting, and open for everyone to attend." https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2022/06/06/next-open-neurofedora-meeting-6-June-1300-utc.html [12:04] TR Bot Next Open NeuroFedora meeting: 6 June 1300 UTC | NeuroFedora: Blog [12:08] TR News "Whatever the merits of Usenet generally, the establishment of the group proved timely, as not long after that the mailing list (formerly hosted at orbitalfox.eu) went down due to hardware issues, and at this point it is not clear if or when it is coming back." gemini://gemini.bunburya.eu/gemlog/posts/2022-01-12-newsgroup-mirror.gmi [12:09] TR News 2021: "I am happy to introduce Apogee, a Gemini server written in Kotlin to run on the JVM" gemini://gemini.bunburya.eu/gemlog/posts/2021-05-15-announcing-apogee-gemini-server.gmi [12:10] TR News [GIT pull] x86/microcode for v5.19-rc1 - Thomas Gleixner https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/165442137983.152751.6786767046026742462.tglx@xen13/ Source: xen13 [12:10] TR Bot [GIT pull] x86/microcode for v5.19-rc1 - Thomas Gleixner [12:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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As somebody who made the shift from "using" Emacs (an on/off ~20yr state) to living in emacs a few years ago, I just want to say: welcome! It's a cozy place to live, and you're always in complete control of your environment." gemini://thelambdalab.xyz/phlog/2022-06-06-Re-Living-in-emacs.txt [13:19] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [13:30] TR News These alternatives are also proprietary and harmful to the Web https://linuxhandbook.com/cloudflare-alternatives/ [13:30] TR Bot 11 Cloudflare Alternatives to Boost Your Website Performance [13:31] TR News The real alternative to Clownflare is stuff like Varnish. Ankush Das names only clown computing/outsourcing -- a false dichotomy [13:33] TR News Some people want to help you solve problems. Others want you to just run from one brand to the next, never solving the underlying problems. 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[18:48] DaemonFC Worth every penny. [18:49] schestowitz_TR2 159248she gave a medal to jeffrey Epstein's buddy [18:49] schestowitz_TR2 he also owns part of NPR [18:49] schestowitz_TR2 (not her son) [18:50] DaemonFC It's for the children.... [18:52] schestowitz_TR2 maybe her son is inside that bear [18:53] schestowitz_TR2 "kick my frog, it'll turn into a prince" [18:53] schestowitz_TR2 maybe Bill Gates in inside that bear [18:58] TR News Reproducible Builds: Reproducible Builds in May 2022 https://reproducible-builds.org/reports/2022-05/ [18:58] TR Bot Builds in May 2022 reproducible-builds.org [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.63 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 06 [19:00] TR News How GNU/Linux became the enterprise's bedrock https://www.computing.co.uk/opinion/4050689/linux-enterprise-bedrock GNU/Linux turns 40 next year [19:00] TR Bot How Linux became the enterprise's bedrock [19:01] TR News Phoronix became a marketing site. These gifts compromise the integrity and editorial direction http://techrights.org/2022/06/06/amd-gifts-again/ [19:01] TR News Even though Android does not mean freedom, its noteworthy that Microsofts share in operating systems (common carrier) decreases rapidly, weakening the companys position in the market http://techrights.org/2022/06/06/windows-down-percent-in-one-month/ [19:01] TR Bot Phoronix Turned 18 This Past Weekend, Asked Readers for Money, and This Monday It Shows Off Hugely Expensive AMD Gifts (Again) | Techrights [19:01] TR Bot June 2022: Android (Linux) at Over 45% Share on the World Wide Web as Windows Falls to New Lows at 27% | Techrights [19:04] TR News Probably Dont Rely on EPSS Yet https://insights.sei.cmu.edu/blog/probably-dont-rely-on-epss-yet/ [19:04] TR Bot Probably Dont Rely on EPSS Yet [19:07] TR News "This month I accepted 288 and rejected 45 packages. The overall number of packages that got accepted was 290." http://blog.alteholz.eu/2022/06/my-debian-activities-in-may-2022/ [19:07] TR Bot Debian Activities in May 2022 blog.alteholz.eu [19:09] TR News Multiplatform support 'pretty much done after 10+ years' says Torvalds as Linux 5.19-RC released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165663#comment-33897 [19:09] TR Bot Linus Torvalds: Linux 5.19-rc1 | Tux Machines [19:10] TR News "Daily Pill is released under the GNU General Public License v3.0." https://medevel.com/daily-pill/ [19:10] TR Bot Daily Pill: is a FOSS Medication Reminder for Android devices [19:11] TR News Alejandro Pieiro: Playing with the rpi4 CPU/GPU frequencies https://blogs.igalia.com/apinheiro/2022/06/playing-with-the-rpi4-cpu-gpu-frequencies/ [19:11] TR Bot Playing with the rpi4 CPU/GPU frequencies infapi00 [19:13] TR News "IoT".. "smart"... other buzzwords https://ubuntu.com//blog/state-of-iot-may-2022 [19:13] TR Bot State of IoT May 2022 | Ubuntu [19:16] TR News 'Linux' Foundation: instead of giving money to volunteers who develop GNU/Linux it now gives money to literal spammers who game Google's YouTube to fake number of views. 'Linux' Foundation is financially sustaining FRAUD. [19:24] TR News Conde Nast for CIA: "A hot-headed coder is accused of exposing the agencys hacking arsenal. Did he betray his country because he was pissed off at his colleagues?" Seems like a straw man. They try to discredit Wikileaks material. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/06/13/the-surreal-case-of-a-cia-hackers-revenge [19:24] TR Bot timed out after 10517 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/06/13/the-surreal-case-of-a-cia-hackers-revenge ) [19:28] TR News Orange Pi 800, An Integrated Into Keyboard PC Running Open Source OS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165616#comment-33898 [19:28] TR Bot Orange Pi 800 Keyboard PC - A Raspberry Pi 400 alternative powered by Rockchip RK3399 | Tux Machines [19:28] TR News Arduino CLI 0.23 makes your projects future-proof with Build Profiles https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/06/arduino-cli-0-23-makes-your-projects-future-proof-with-build-profiles/ [19:28] TR Bot Arduino CLI 0.23 makes your projects future-proof with Build Profiles [19:29] DaemonFC maybe Bill Gates in inside that bear [19:30] DaemonFC The latest Musk/Gates spat turned really nasty (on Elon Musk's side more than Gates). [19:30] DaemonFC Gates just lied about his philanthropy and climate change. [19:30] schestowitz_TR2 have they arrested him? [19:30] schestowitz_TR2 if not, I don't care much [19:30] DaemonFC Then Musk responded by comparing Gates's belly to the pregnant man emoji. [19:30] schestowitz_TR2 more BS for the media to distract with [19:30] schestowitz_TR2 sounds like BS [19:30] schestowitz_TR2 and a waste of time [19:31] DaemonFC SiriusXM is sending me emails. They say they'll give me my first year for $60. [19:31] DaemonFC Not sure why anyone pays them. [19:31] TR News "For this years Embedded Vision Summit, Hackster.ios Alex Glow created a companion robot successor to her previous Archimedes bot called Nikola. This time, the goal was to embed a privacy-focused camera and microphone system as well as several other components that would increase its adorability." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/06/meet-nikola-a-camera-enabled-smart-companion-robot/ [19:31] TR Bot Meet Nikola, a camera-enabled smart companion robot | Arduino Blog [19:31] DaemonFC There's music on FM. [19:32] DaemonFC Their normal price is like almost $200 a year to listen to the radio. [19:33] DaemonFC I'm not sure what the perks are other than no ads and the occasional uncensored "Fuck" that doesn't get skipped over awkwardly because people are afraid of works. [19:33] DaemonFC *words [19:33] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165697 [19:33] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:34] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165698 [19:34] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [19:35] TR News Distro from TEN years ago: "Linux: A computer running 64-bit x86 Linux Ubuntu 12.04 LTS or later, Ubuntu GUI and OpenGL, 512MB RAM, 2GB minimum disc space" https://astronomynow.com/2022/06/06/the-sky-imaging-edition-part-3/ [19:35] TR Bot The Sky Imaging Edition: Part 3 Astronomy Now [19:36] TR News Video: Android without Google: /e/ Video: Android without Google: /e/ [19:36] TR News Video: Android without Google: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNjnMEMWMLY [19:36] TR Bot https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=aNjnMEMWMLY [19:36] TR Bot timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=aNjnMEMWMLY ) [19:39] TR News The stupid socket file descriptor leak in Dremini gemini://gemini.clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2022/06-06-the-stupid-socket-file-descriptor-leak-in-dremini.gmi [19:40] TR News You don't need a new computer gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-06-06.new.cpus.gmi "When Linux became a reality I jumped ship. Amazingly, it worked well on leftover equipment I had neglected to give away; even on ancient boxes it was perfectly tolerable for many applications." [19:41] TR News "To forgive others, you must first forgive yourself." gemini://rawtext.club/~deerbard/glog/2022-06-06-mindfulnes-way-to-forgiveness.gmi [19:43] TR News Rust Compiler: we outsourced to Microsoft and to proprietary software, but don't worry, security at GitHub is managed by the NSA, which puts back doors in everything https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2022/06/03/jun-steering-cycle.html [19:43] TR Bot Rust Compiler June 2022 Steering Cycle | Inside Rust Blog [19:44] TR News Outsourcing is not a present. German company promoting American clown computing is data breach, espionage. Don't let this become "normal"... https://www.suse.com/c/better-cheaper-more-flexible/ [19:44] TR Bot Cheaper, More Flexible A Surprise Present from AWS + SUSE | SUSE Communities [19:47] TR News "The CloudNativePG Community has released a new update for the supported 1.15.x version of the CloudNativePG Operator." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/cloudnativepg-1151-released-2465/ [19:47] TR Bot PostgreSQL: CloudNativePG 1.15.1 Released! [19:47] TR News Speek: A Privacy-Focused Chat App Built on the Tor Network Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165699 [19:47] TR Bot Speek: A Privacy-Focused Chat App Built on the Tor Network | Tux Machines [19:56] TR News The Linux Foundation Has Just Released A Guide to Enterprise Open Source, Made Using Proprietary Software on Proprietary Operating System | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/06/linux-foundation-speaks-about-itself/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/06/linux-foundation-speaks-about-itself/ [19:56] TR Bot timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://techrights.org/2022/06/06/linux-foundation-speaks-about-itself/ ) ● Jun 06 [20:00] TR News The Linux Foundation: Linux is used a LOT. Us: OK, THEN USE IT!! [20:02] *CrystalMath (~coderain@ces2xnvyta5j8.irc) has joined #techrights [20:02] TR News New distro release: SpiralLinux 11.220606 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165700 [20:02] TR Bot New distro release: SpiralLinux 11.220606 | Tux Machines [20:03] TR News Microsoft HEART Linux http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/microsoft-loves-linux.jpg [20:05] TR News The Linux Foundation has announced (about 90 minutes ago) this report. And yet, it says, many organizations have not embraced open source at all. Sounds like the Linux Foundation speaks about itself. http://techrights.org/2022/06/06/linux-foundation-speaks-about-itself/ [20:13] TR News A Bunch of Linux Gamers are Trying Fedora Out in 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165701 [20:13] TR Bot A Bunch of Linux Gamers are Trying Fedora Out in 2022 | Tux Machines [20:13] TR News LINMOB.net - Weekly #LinuxPhone Update (22/2022): A new, quite different Linux Phone and GNOME Shell for Mobile Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165702 [20:13] TR Bot LINMOB.net - Weekly #LinuxPhone Update (22/2022): A new, quite different Linux Phone and GNOME Shell for Mobile | Tux Machines [20:14] TR News X1501 Pico SoM - MIPS, Linux in a 16x16mm module Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165703 [20:14] TR Bot X1501 Pico SoM - MIPS, Linux in a 16x16mm module | Tux Machines [20:23] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/06/krasnodar-man-asked-to-explain-himself-to-police-after-branding-z-marked-dishes-sold-at-russian-supermarket-as-shit-salads-news "Krasnodar man asked to explain himself to police after branding Z-marked dishes sold at Russian supermarket as shit salads" [20:23] TR Bot . [20:23] TR News Links 06/06/2022: GNUnet 0.17.0, SpiralLinux Introduced | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/06/spirallinux-introduced/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/06/spirallinux-introduced/ [20:23] TR Bot Links 06/06/2022: GNUnet 0.17.0, SpiralLinux Introduced | Techrights [20:24] TR News Modding With Arduino Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165704 [20:24] TR Bot Modding With Arduino | Tux Machines [20:24] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165705 [20:24] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [20:26] schestowitz_TR2 XRevan86: could come up with shitty excuses [20:27] schestowitz_TR2 "Putin is doing some really good shit!" [20:27] XRevan86 schestowitz: Won't work in translation. [20:27] schestowitz_TR2 OK, maybe black dialect [20:27] schestowitz_TR2 "this the shit" is good [20:27] schestowitz_TR2 "this is shit" is bad [20:28] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165706 [20:28] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [20:30] TR News TuxMachines turns 18 in about 75 hours. [20:30] TR News TOTALLY about Linux, Michael... https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Apple-M2 [20:30] TR Bot timed out after 10517 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Apple-M2 ) [20:37] TR News so wordpress uploads all content to their CDN servers i2.wp.com even when self hosted https://dwaves.de/2022/06/06/so-wordpress-uploads-all-content-to-their-cdn-servers-i2-wp-com-even-when-self-hosted/ if true, quite a scandal [20:37] TR Bot timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://dwaves.de/2022/06/06/so-wordpress-uploads-all-content-to-their-cdn-servers-i2-wp-com-even-when-self-hosted/ ) [20:41] TR News Greatest sites updated, two more fine entries added https://www.dedoimedo.com/greatest_sites.html tuxmachines there also... [20:41] TR Bot timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.dedoimedo.com/greatest_sites.html ) [20:42] TR News vSphere is likely one massive bug door https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/configuring-virt-who-vsphere-report-hypervisor-host-information-red-hat-customer-portal [20:42] TR Bot timed out after 10518 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/configuring-virt-who-vsphere-report-hypervisor-host-information-red-hat-customer-portal ) [20:43] TR News When ICBM says "modernizing", hide under a table https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/rethinking-path-modernizing-application-delivery [20:43] TR Bot timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/rethinking-path-modernizing-application-delivery ) [20:43] TR News LittleZone is a tribute to the 1980 video game Battlezone | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/06/littlezone-is-a-tribute-to-the-1980-video-game-battlezone/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking [20:44] TR Bot timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/06/littlezone-is-a-tribute-to-the-1980-video-game-battlezone/ ) [20:44] TR News so wordpress uploads all content to their CDN servers i2.wp.com - even when self hosted Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165707 [20:44] TR Bot so wordpress uploads all content to their CDN servers i2.wp.com - even when self hosted | Tux Machines [20:50] TR News ICBM offers new NFT to Fedora slaves https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/panda-sighting [20:50] TR Bot Fedora Badges [20:54] TR News Some arse-kicking EPO series will come. Its a hub of corruption not just in Europe but internationally. We have facts to show... [20:54] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165708 [20:54] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:56] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ShlypsSmmA [20:56] TR Bot https://y.com.sb/watch?v=8ShlypsSmmA [20:56] TR Bot y.com.sb | Doing This Will Make Your Car Get Better Gas Mileage - Invidious [20:56] DaemonFC Mom drives around with all kinds of crap in her car trunk. [20:57] DaemonFC She had my TV in there for a year and a half and it still works perfectly fine. [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.63 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 06 [21:10] *KiKi_ has quit (connection closed) [21:10] *KiKi_ (~KiKi@mii8cedt3f3mk.irc) has joined #techrights [21:12] MinceR https://assets.amuniversal.com/27655ae0afad013aa8e5005056a9545d ( https://dilbert.com/strip/2022-05-21 ) [21:12] TR Bot Before Vacation - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2022-05-21 | Dilbert by Scott Adams [21:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [21:20] TR News Linux Kernel 5.19 RC1 Released, Concluding ARM Generic Kernel Work Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165709 [21:20] TR Bot Linux Kernel 5.19 RC1 Released, Concluding ARM Generic Kernel Work | Tux Machines [21:23] TR News "Building Gemipedia has taught me a lot about how to translate the various types of HTML formatting you find in Wikipedia content into Gemtext. Ignore things like italics or emphasis (you often don't need them). How do you represent math formulas?" gemini://gemi.dev/gemlog/2022-06-06-unicode-sub-sup.gmi [21:25] TR News bombadillo fork gets stdout capability gemini://blinkyshark.chickenkiller.com/2022-06-06-bombo-stdout.gmi [21:27] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D607.jpg [21:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-05.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-06.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:32] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:34] *techrights_guest|44 (~9a9b7c65@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [21:37] *mib_m6tqab (~9a9b7c65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [21:41] schestowitz_TR2 hi new one... [21:42] schestowitz_TR2 or sometone testing the web UIs [21:43] SomeH4x0r hi [21:43] *techrights_guest|44 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:44] schestowitz_TR2 app-ification of irc [21:44] *mib_m6tqab has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [21:52] TR News Linux Foundation is shifting all focus to politics lately https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/untold-stories-open-source-priyanka-sharma/ see also http://techrights.org/2022/05/31/the-linux-foundation-politics/ [21:52] TR Bot Untold Stories of Open Source: Priyanka Sharma - Linux Foundation [21:52] TR Bot timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://techrights.org/2022/05/31/the-linux-foundation-politics/ ) [21:53] TR News Linux Foundation is not all about Diversity & Inclusion http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/linux-foundation-microsoft-outsourcing/ [21:53] TR Bot timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/linux-foundation-microsoft-outsourcing/ ) [21:54] TR News ...it's just trying to change the subject http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/ [21:54] TR Bot Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its Support for the Black Community | Techrights [21:55] TR News ...while it trolls the real community over "ethics" http://techrights.org/2021/05/07/trolling-the-real-community/ [21:55] TR Bot The Biggest Troll is the Linux Foundation, Still Looking to Provoke and Defame Free Software Communities in Order to Help a Monopolistic Takeover and to Shoehorn Tyrants Into Leadership Positions | Techrights [21:58] TR News ...when "ethics" are being leveraged as a corporate smokescreen (which nowadays happens a lot, sadly) actual ethics aren't promoted by shamed, stigmatised as a PR ploy to be distrusted or scorned by default http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation [21:58] TR Bot Linux Foundation - Techrights [21:59] TR News "but when you give up the chance at Point Mugu or Oxnard (or La Conchita: the operating system that collapses on itself!) for a pretty if less ostentatious coastal community, someone at Apple just isn't thinking big. Or, for that matter, mammoth." http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2022/06/macos-oxnard.html [21:59] TR Bot TenFourFox Development: macOS Oxnard ● Jun 06 [22:01] TR News Doubleclick is surveillance capitalism by the way, so the Foundation hires people who lack experience in Free/Open Source software, they're doing spying. [22:01] TR News Techrights will soon publish a new video about "Linux" Foundation [22:13] TR News UK COVID-19 Status: We've Almost Stopped Testing, Death Figures Are 17 Days Behind https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/06/covid19-death-figures-17-days-behind/ [22:13] TR Bot Blog Archive UK COVID-19 Status: Weve Almost Stopped Testing, Death Figures Are 17 Days Behind [22:23] TR News "Wifi is terrible nobody would use wifi unless they absolutely have to luckily you generally don't and there's 2 things I've done to change fix it, one being powerline ethernet adapters and the other being finally getting a network switch." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=npOHGhm2dkQ [22:24] TR Bot Home Networking Upgrades That Changed My Life - Invidious [22:24] TR News New HTTP core specs https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/06/06/new-http-core-specs/ it is becoming proprietary and in a matter of years it can become obsolete; we need to adopt alternatives [22:24] TR Bot HTTP core specs | daniel.haxx.se [22:26] TR News Drascula: Improving your Spanish language skills by playing an Adventure Game https://sndirsch.github.io/scummvm/2022/06/06/drascula.html [22:26] TR Bot timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://sndirsch.github.io/scummvm/2022/06/06/drascula.html ) [22:27] *oarion7 (~anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [22:27] TR News "Virtualization Review", a Microsoft propaganda site, is pushing WSL this evening. Microsoft is feeling the pinch; hence is is attacking (WSL is an ATTACK on GNU/Linux) [22:29] TR News The next big Linux update could be something pretty special http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165663#comment-33901 [22:29] TR Bot Linus Torvalds: Linux 5.19-rc1 | Tux Machines [22:32] DaemonFC Bluetooth is terrible. [22:33] DaemonFC It's so bad that they should just go back and redesign it completely. [22:33] DaemonFC Nobody wants to implement the latest version properly unless you pay a fortune for the receiver and even then it's dicey. [22:34] TR News "In this video, I will give you my "tier list" for the various text editors that I have used, which includes..." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=k61ABYfQ1Ss [22:34] DaemonFC A lot of the cheaper receivers on Amazon or eBay say they are Bluetooth 5 and then it turns out they're not. [22:34] TR Bot timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=k61ABYfQ1Ss ) [22:34] schestowitz_TR2 bluetooth was always crap [22:35] schestowitz_TR2 it's very old [22:35] schestowitz_TR2 and still crap [22:35] schestowitz_TR2 nowadays its main selling point is, [22:35] schestowitz_TR2 "hey, you can rid rid of this cord" [22:35] DaemonFC The IRS adjusted the maximum AGI for the 50% SAVERS Credit. By $1,000 for a married couple. [22:35] schestowitz_TR2 a cord that never bothered you much [22:35] DaemonFC Ohhh, big money, big money, no bankrupt! [22:35] DaemonFC :P [22:36] schestowitz_TR2 bluetooth is a conspiracty of battery companies :'D :-p [22:36] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, If I have to I'll jack Mandy's 401(k) up sky high to get the rest of that credit. [22:36] DaemonFC Better to get the $1,000 than let the IRS keep $600 by knocking us down to the next tier. [22:37] schestowitz_TR2 anyway, irs is off topicw [22:37] DaemonFC I was telling some lady mom works with who is a nursing assistant it's a bad idea to put nothing in a 401(k) even if it's just the amount your employer will match, especially if you don't make a ton of money, because the IRS gives up to half of it back as a credit *and* your money is in your account. [22:37] schestowitz_TR2 wanna proofread my short post on LF AND IRS [22:37] schestowitz_TR2 it's about IRS.. in relation to tech [22:38] DaemonFC How so? [22:38] schestowitz DaemonFC: draft http://techrights.org/2022/06/06/linux-foundation-no-oss-authority/ [22:38] TR Bot The Linux Foundation is in No Position to Lecture or Write About Open Source Software (OSS), Which Its Consistently Rejecting | Techrights [22:40] MinceR https://files.catbox.moe/080ylc.jpg [22:40] TR Bot connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/080ylc.jpg ) [22:40] DaemonFC Looks okay. [22:40] DaemonFC Left my eyeglasses in the car. [22:41] DaemonFC Mandy was getting fitted for his partial plate this morning. [22:41] schestowitz_TR2 shaq will pocket them [22:41] DaemonFC Mechanics can definitely be worse than doctors and lawyers and dentists. [22:41] DaemonFC But at least the car runs fine. [22:41] schestowitz_TR2 maintain it well [22:41] schestowitz_TR2 it can last a decade [22:42] schestowitz_TR2 and no "smart" things [22:42] schestowitz_TR2 like tesala [22:42] DaemonFC I do. I was out doing the wash and wax today. [22:42] schestowitz_TR2 the layoffs company [22:42] schestowitz_TR2 immibis loves tesla [22:42] DaemonFC I decided to go ahead and replace one of the fenders. [22:42] DaemonFC Shaq said he'd just charge me the part. No paint or labor. [22:42] schestowitz_TR2 the following day, after the IRC debate, layoffs [22:42] schestowitz_TR2 they just don't sell enough [22:42] DaemonFC So it's not going to be outrageous to replace it. The "repair" didn't quite go so well. [22:43] DaemonFC But hey, he made it up. [22:43] schestowitz_TR2 :0-) [22:43] DaemonFC He's not a bad guy but I really question that body shop they use. [22:43] DaemonFC I felt around and shined a flashlight in that rocker panel. [22:43] DaemonFC It feels/looks like they did an okay job on that. [22:44] DaemonFC There really is no "proper" procedure to fix any of this stuff. [22:44] DaemonFC But people get good results with fiberglass quite often. [22:44] DaemonFC They fixed my swiss cheese rocker panel with it. [22:44] DaemonFC Sanded down to the metal that was left and then built it back out again and filled in the holes with fiberglass. [22:45] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, Yes, you have to maintain what you have. [22:45] DaemonFC Have you seen what a NEW Buick costs? OMFG. [22:46] DaemonFC Like, after taxes, dealer bullshit they don't put in the sticker price, and "$1,300" for someone to "deliver it" to the dealership, you're well north of $70,000. [22:46] DaemonFC $1,300 for someone to take it to the place selling it along with a truckload of other cars. Probably 15-20 cars on that truckload. [22:46] DaemonFC Total scam. [22:47] DaemonFC And you pay the $1,300 whether you buy the $70,000 Buick or the $12,000 piece of shit compliance car. [22:47] TR News The Linux Foundation is in No Position to Lecture or Write About Open Source Software (OSS), Which Its Consistently Rejecting | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/06/linux-foundation-no-oss-authority/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/06/linux-foundation-no-oss-authority/ [22:47] DaemonFC So it's a very regressive fee. [22:47] TR Bot The Linux Foundation is in No Position to Lecture or Write About Open Source Software (OSS), Which Its Consistently Rejecting | Techrights [22:47] DaemonFC It hits the people who get the cheap car that's never going to work right even if it is new. [22:48] DaemonFC They don't build those cheap cars to be reliable or please the people buying them. [22:48] DaemonFC My Aunt Rhetta bought a new car every 2 years, but it was always the lowest end Chevy they had on the lot. [22:49] DaemonFC So she was buying things that didn't even have an air conditioner in them, whopping 85 horsepower.... [22:49] DaemonFC But the worst part is that just 2 years later there was always something wrong with them. [22:49] DaemonFC Something so bad that you couldn't reasonably keep driving it. [22:50] DaemonFC Electrical problems, shutting down unexpectedly, it would rain and one of them would fill up with water and the dealer tried fixing it 9 times and didn't. [22:51] DaemonFC Always some kind of crazy shit going on. For the money she spent trading it in every 2 years, she and her husband could have bought one good new car and kept it 20 years. [22:52] DaemonFC (Or more. But certainly more than 2.) [22:52] DaemonFC You'll never be happy with an economy car even if it is brand new. [22:53] DaemonFC They build them so bad that you're lucky if things don't start falling off when you are still driving out of the lot with it. [22:53] DaemonFC But Teslas are like that too. [22:53] TR News He is shilling a password stealer https://hackernoon.com/how-microsoft-tipped-my-linux-love-over-the-edge see http://techrights.org/2021/11/17/microsoft-password-stealer/ [22:53] DaemonFC They build them to claim that they got good gas mileage from x number of cars that year and then they basically use them as a loss leader. [22:53] TR Bot Microsoft Tipped My Linux Love Over the 'Edge' | HackerNoon [22:53] TR Bot timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://techrights.org/2021/11/17/microsoft-password-stealer/ ) [22:54] DaemonFC And most of the time the dealers don't even want to stock them, so they raise the MSRP and then bring the price back down with customer incentives. [22:54] DaemonFC And they may have one on the whole lot. [22:55] TR News Ubuntu snap vs. apt: Which package manager to use and when Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165710 [22:55] TR Bot Ubuntu snap vs. apt: Which package manager to use and when | Tux Machines [22:56] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, With the oil crisis going on I'm definitely going to just do what the computer tells me to do with this thing. [22:57] DaemonFC It's claiming right now that the way I'm driving it, it only needs an oil change about every 9,000 miles. [22:57] TR News Is HP regarded as some sort of champion now? Based on what, SUSE? HP's ATTACKS on GNU/Linux in Munich? HP colluded with Microsoft to undermine Free software adoption in Germany! https://www.suse.com/c/hpe-at-susecon-2022/ [22:57] TR Bot timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.suse.com/c/hpe-at-susecon-2022/ ) [22:57] DaemonFC With the Impala I was just guessing and doing every 5,000 or so. [22:57] TR News COVID-19: Who needs testing anyway, right? It only makes the regime look bad. Come on, Jubilee! https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/06/covid19-death-figures-17-days-behind/ [22:57] TR Bot Blog Archive UK COVID-19 Status: Weve Almost Stopped Testing, Death Figures Are 17 Days Behind [22:57] DaemonFC You need to pop the hood every now and then and check the level though. [22:58] DaemonFC You don't want a slow leak or a little bit of burning going on in there and over 5,000 miles it wouldn't matter, but.... [22:58] DaemonFC GM ran into this problem with the Active Fuel Management on the Northstar V8. [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.63 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [22:59] DaemonFC It leaks oil, many people disable it to stop the oil leak, but it's expensive to delete. You can disable for about $100 for a device that plugs into OBD-II and says "I'm a technician checking the engine. Turn that off." and just driving around like that. [22:59] DaemonFC But people's engines were running bone dry on oil and their truck broke down and the engine was ruined. ● Jun 06 [23:00] DaemonFC So GM recalled it and instead of fixing the leaks, they reprogrammed the computer so instead of letting you go 7,000-10,000 miles between changes, it would always light "Change Oil" after 3,000. [23:00] TR News Novell and Microsoft colluded with Dell to make patent payments to Microsoft... for people who buy a Dell PC with GNU/Linux. This is what SUSE flaunts this evening. https://www.suse.com/c/dell-technologies-at-susecon-2022/ [23:00] DaemonFC So the idea is that they don't pay anything to reprogram the stupid computer and when you're paying for 3 times as many oil changes, that's your problem. [23:00] TR Bot Technologies at SUSECON 2022 | SUSE Communities [23:01] DaemonFC And they're not giving those oil changes away. They took you down from a $70 oil change every 12-15 months to one every like 3. [23:01] DaemonFC Ridiculous. [23:01] TR News Saying you use GNU/Linux and tolerate Microsoft is NOT a virtue. Tolerating crime is NOT a virtue. [23:01] DaemonFC Anyone with a brain in their head would refuse the recall and just check the level themselves often and top up, which is not expensive to do at that rate. [23:02] DaemonFC A couple quarts of oil over 15 months is like $9-10 for decent stuff. [23:02] DaemonFC Paying for 4 more oil changes is $280. [23:02] TR News he Linux Foundation, which has long been run by proprietary software companies, is herding coders and their code into the arms of Microsofts proprietary software (such as GitHub), so isnt it weird that the Foundation claims to be the authority on the subject of OSS? http://techrights.org/2022/06/06/linux-foundation-no-oss-authority/ [23:02] TR Bot The Linux Foundation is in No Position to Lecture or Write About Open Source Software (OSS), Which Its Consistently Rejecting | Techrights [23:03] DaemonFC I wouldn't disable Active Fuel Management if I had a Northstar. [23:03] DaemonFC Cheaper to pour some oil in occasionally than it is to lose 1.5 mpg all the time. [23:03] DaemonFC In a Northstar Cadillac? 1.5 mpg is probably 10% of your city mileage. [23:04] DaemonFC If you want to throw away another 80 cents a day on gas getting to work and back, plus the stupid OBD-II thing, you can disable it. [23:05] DaemonFC The AFM doesn't kick in until you're on the highway anyway. [23:05] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165711 [23:05] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [23:05] DaemonFC If you disable it in the city, you really don't get as much benefit because you're always shifting up and down and the computer is going to give you V8 power anyway so people don't come back and say "Fuck you! I paid for a V8 and this thing is slow as hell!". [23:05] TR News New Videos: Text Editors and Home Networking Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165712 [23:05] TR Bot New Videos: Text Editors and Home Networking | Tux Machines [23:06] TR News Buzzwords myths https://www.electronicdesign.com/technologies/embedded-revolution/article/21243610/nxp-semiconductors-11-myths-of-edge-computing [23:06] DaemonFC You compromise between power and gas mileage and you just have to figure out how much annoyance is worth the fuel savings. [23:06] TR Bot 11 Myths of Edge Computing | Electronic Design [23:07] DaemonFC Personally, I don't like anything smaller than a 3-4 liter V6 or a small V8 (4.3-4.6). [23:07] DaemonFC Biden is such a pain in the ass right now. [23:08] TR News The "caring about bullshit" generation https://www.huaweicentral.com/tcl-launches-new-quad-curved-display-better-than-huawei/ [23:08] TR Bot TCL launches new quad curved display, better than Huawei? - Huawei Central [23:08] DaemonFC There are lots of easy ways to get oil into the world economy right now, but he doesn't want to because he's worried about pissing off the tree huggers or the conservatives who don't like who he'd have to let up from sanctions to make up for Russia. [23:08] DaemonFC Personally, I think it's worth taking the sanctions off Iran and Venezuela entirely right now to stick it to Putin. [23:09] DaemonFC And if Biden was a smarter politician he'd calculate that the risk to his party is that people are paying over $100 to fill their gas tanks now, and maybe more on election day, and don't give a flying fuck about Venezuela. [23:10] TR News We are more focused on talking about economic cooperation" (it's ALMOST about MONEY) https://en.tempo.co/read/1598946/jokowi-outlines-5-points-of-bilateral-meeting-with-australian-pm [23:10] TR Bot timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://en.tempo.co/read/1598946/jokowi-outlines-5-points-of-bilateral-meeting-with-australian-pm ) [23:10] DaemonFC When I wake up each morning and make myself a cup of coffee, I don't think about what's going on in Venezuela. We've got our problems and they have theirs. [23:11] DaemonFC Best of luck with that. [23:11] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, You say China China China, but I think they're in deep shit. [23:12] DaemonFC There's a lot of bubbles in their own economy and the Communists haven't figured out how to repeal the laws of economics. All Communists figure out is how to cause problems and shoot everyone that complains or tries to flee. [23:13] TR News First, STOP calling it "CRYPTO"; it's just totally wasteful activity and it's a bubble. https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/06/06/how-crypto-can-do-good-for-the-world/ [23:13] TR Bot How Crypto Can Do Good for the World [23:13] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, I probably wouldn't continue SiriusXM if it would be $60 a year forever. [23:14] DaemonFC I can pack a virtually unlimited amount of music in Opus on my own computer and never pay anyone to listen to it again. [23:14] DaemonFC Mom was laughing that they wanted $200 a year to "listen to music". I said, "You forgot Howard Stern.". [23:15] TR News Jubilee bank holiday: let's all celebrate for the mom of Jeffrey Epstein's buddy. Also: let's throw her a $100,000,000 party while some people sleep rough in the streets and millions need FOOD BANKS. https://www.womanandhome.com/life/royal-news/the-10-best-moments-from-the-queens-platinum-jubilee-bank-holiday-weekend-revealed/ [23:15] TR Bot Platinum Jubilee: The 10 best moments from the Queen's bank holiday weekend | Woman & Home | [23:16] *matey (~matey@dzrdp9rrbb5ee.irc) has joined #techrights [23:16] schestowitz_TR2 DaemonFC: saubs are for people with s small music colelction [23:16] schestowitz_TR2 *subs [23:17] DaemonFC Yeah, Apple started taking care of that for people. [23:17] schestowitz_TR2 or people who never download anything [23:17] schestowitz_TR2 streaming leaves you dependent on copyright masters/monsters [23:17] DaemonFC "We deleted your 14,000 songs. You can download them one by one or subscribe to Apple Music!" [23:17] schestowitz_TR2 there are tracks I heard well over 1000 times [23:17] SomeH4x0r hi [23:17] matey streaming is the #1 way to download too [23:17] matey hi someh4x0r [23:18] DaemonFC There were people I heard screaming about paying Apple $1.29 per song and losing 15,000 to Apple deleting it. [23:18] DaemonFC Like "BACKUPS MOTHERFUCKER! Heard of them?". [23:19] schestowitz_TR2 that's 'piracy' [23:19] matey it isnt really [23:19] DaemonFC They paid Apple enough for their iTunes library to buy a Kia Soul+ and then Apple deleted the files. [23:19] DaemonFC I hope they at least learned something, but probably not. [23:19] matey its uploading that is covered by copyright [23:19] matey not downloading [23:19] DaemonFC Downloading too. [23:19] schestowitz_TR2 some people are the same with their photos [23:19] matey its not 'piracy' until you share what youve downloaded :) [23:19] schestowitz_TR2 10 years down the line they lose all the photos they took and/or collected [23:19] schestowitz_TR2 in schools they teach clown [23:19] schestowitz_TR2 not backups [23:20] schestowitz_TR2 backup courses should be essential [23:20] schestowitz_TR2 when I was 22 years old I lecturesd a hospital on backups [23:20] schestowitz_TR2 I still have the slides online [23:20] matey schools are miseducation as a disservice [23:20] schestowitz_TR2 I was proud that I did it at that age [23:20] schestowitz_TR2 some university professors were turned down [23:20] schestowitz_TR2 and I told them about non-Windows systems [23:20] matey they should be exposed for being shills and turning classrooms into little more than salesfloors [23:20] schestowitz_TR2 and why they should use those [23:20] matey its appalling [23:21] schestowitz_TR2 they do copyright "classes" [23:21] matey then people get "accreditation" in sucking up to corporations [23:21] schestowitz_TR2 epo campinos encourages more of this [23:21] schestowitz_TR2 brainwash for patents too [23:21] schestowitz_TR2 in schools [23:21] matey they do copyright "classes" <- propaganda [23:21] matey epo campinos <- well, hes dead [23:21] schestowitz_TR2 not yet [23:21] schestowitz_TR2 he had no dirt on billG [23:21] matey fingers crossed [23:22] matey people are (nearly) ready to stand up to industry [23:22] matey but not in the old strongholds [23:22] matey the fsf will never be ready [23:22] matey it really is dead [23:22] matey open source will never be ready [23:22] matey completely fake [23:23] matey free software has a future [23:23] matey the open software foundation does not [23:23] matey open source foundation [23:23] matey ossf [23:24] matey full of people pretending to give a shit about the corporate takeover of everything, including freedom [23:24] matey "we do a lot of work for CHARITY but we dont like to talk about it" [23:25] matey "check out my github" [23:25] *KiKi_ has quit (connection closed) [23:25] matey free microsoft foundation [23:25] matey micro mouse club [23:25] *KiKi_ (~KiKi@7hqhhkt9jhmyw.irc) has joined #techrights [23:26] matey fsf is against "hero worship" [23:26] matey but theyre fine with anti-hero self-worship [23:26] matey even if the anti-heroes demand human sacrifice [23:27] matey freedom leads to human dignity [23:27] matey freedom creates heroes [23:27] matey then the fsf shits on them [23:28] matey the best way to shit on freedom is to shit on the people who stand for it [23:28] matey then nobody wants to stand for anything anymore [23:28] matey they all become opportunists [23:28] matey dont worry, the new fsf will destroy itself, just like ibm and github [23:29] matey and i will cheer this on, just like i would with ibm and github [23:29] matey but free software needs to continue [23:29] matey freedom doesnt die just because an organisation decides to stop standing for anything [23:30] matey it does lose momentum during counterrevolutions [23:30] matey thats the whole point of them [23:30] matey and thats what people should stand up to [23:30] matey counterrevolutions postpone progress as much and as long as they can [23:30] matey people standing up to them dont wait for bullshitters to stop bullshitting [23:30] matey or for shills to run out of steam [23:31] matey standing up for freedom has always meant standing up to people who stand for hegemony [23:32] matey freedom isnt a dick-sucking contest [23:32] matey it isnt a deal with the devil [23:32] matey it isnt false compromise after false compromise [23:32] matey and it isnt open source [23:34] schestowitz_TR2 then the fsf shits on them [23:34] schestowitz_TR2 wait, you need to distinuish [23:34] schestowitz_TR2 borderline occupiers [23:34] schestowitz_TR2 from the people who are now there [23:34] schestowitz_TR2 afaik, they're all fine with rms being in the board [23:34] schestowitz_TR2 happy or at least tolerating this decision, at the least [23:34] schestowitz_TR2 rms did nothing illegal [23:35] schestowitz_TR2 and instead he was defamed, based on things he said poorly [23:39] TR News unixcop [23:39] TR News unixcop [23:39] TR News Sounds like a system's act of vandalism; suggests installing proprietary repository of Microsoft, rendering your machine spyware, controlled by the biggest enemy of GNU//Linux https://unixcop.com/install-powershell-centos-9-stream/ [23:39] TR Bot How to install Microsoft PowerShell on CentOS 9 Stream - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials [23:43] TR News 3 more days! http://www.tuxmachines.org/files/icann-tuxmachines.png [23:45] DaemonFC By mjg59_ on ShitHub. A petition nobody cares about, hosted by Microsoft. [23:46] DaemonFC As far as anyone knows, RMS hasn't even associated himself with a real person who fucks kids. [23:46] DaemonFC Which is more than you can say for Bill Gates. [23:47] schestowitz_TR2 http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/bill-gates-prince-andrew.jpg [23:47] TR Bot timed out after 10518 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/bill-gates-prince-andrew.jpg ) [23:47] DaemonFC I'm beginning to think Bill Gates calls his dick Philanthropy or something. He keeps talking about giving Philanthropy to kids. [23:48] DaemonFC I don't see anything he's done that actually benefits them. Spills out all their private info because the school contracted with Microsoft or one of the Gates Foundation's puppets and uploaded the data without their consent. [23:48] schestowitz_TR2 https://www.a-lec.org/libre-en-conf-04062022-richard-stallman-libertes-du-logiciel-et-du-materiel.html [23:48] schestowitz_TR2 https://video.chalec.org/ [23:48] TR Bot Libre en Confrences du 4 juin 2022 - Libre en Communs [23:48] TR Bot Vido Chalec [23:49] DaemonFC Much of the time you can't do a lot to prevent identity theft committed against you where Microsoft products are implicated. [23:49] DaemonFC Because you had to give your information to someone who put it on one of their products. [23:50] DaemonFC About all you can do is make sure to avoid them on your own computers. [23:50] DaemonFC Which is good enough to solve some of the problem (like ransomware encrypting all your files and wanting $5,000 because you visited a website in their browser). [23:50] DaemonFC Which is a nuisance when it's porn and MP3s. [23:51] DaemonFC But quite quite terrible when 20% of the country can't get gasoline for weeks because of Microsoft and then nobody will even mention them. [23:51] schestowitz_TR2 we did [23:51] schestowitz_TR2 the media did not [23:51] DaemonFC The average user doesn't care about Windows being so bad because they figure they lose some porn and MP3s and wipe the disk and start over until next time. [23:51] schestowitz_TR2 like the oil just "Stopped" [23:52] DaemonFC But as we see, it's a threat to them beyond that. [23:52] schestowitz_TR2 also remember: [23:52] schestowitz_TR2 deepwater horizon [23:52] DaemonFC There's RATs and things that read your browser passwords. [23:52] schestowitz_TR2 windows incdident [23:52] DaemonFC I'm sure mjg59_ is able to frame some situation where Pluton helps. [23:52] DaemonFC No? Okay then. [23:53] schestowitz_TR2 the back-doored OS must have integrity [23:53] schestowitz_TR2 otherwise it might boot... [23:53] schestowitz_TR2 WITHOUT the backdoors [23:53] schestowitz_TR2 that's NOT acceptable [23:53] schestowitz_TR2 that's uefi 'secure' boot for you [23:53] schestowitz_TR2 as for pluton-crat [23:53] schestowitz_TR2 that's for RAT [23:53] DaemonFC Microsoft is mainly worried about open source operating systems. You can straight up use Windows pirated or without activating it now. [23:53] schestowitz_TR2 all this is a festival of bullshit nonsense [23:53] DaemonFC It's really not that different from activating it. [23:53] schestowitz_TR2 which is what companies like gulag sling [23:53] DaemonFC Black wallpaper and a watermark. [23:53] schestowitz_TR2 pubnlic relations and people in suits [23:54] DaemonFC Like anyone cares. That's the point. [23:54] DaemonFC They want people to avoid trying to escape them to the point they don't enforce their software license unless you're big enough for the BSA to go after you. [23:54] schestowitz_TR2 black wallpaper is good [23:54] schestowitz_TR2 lowers the power bils [23:54] schestowitz_TR2 on some dipsplay devices [23:54] schestowitz_TR2 depending on modality [23:54] schestowitz_TR2 DaemonFC: did you see this morning's post? [23:55] DaemonFC Nope. Busy at Mandy's dentist. [23:55] schestowitz_TR2 http://techrights.org/2022/06/06/windows-down-percent-in-one-month [23:55] DaemonFC We think he will have his new teeth by the 30th. [23:55] TR Bot timed out after 10518 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://techrights.org/2022/06/06/windows-down-percent-in-one-month/ ) [23:55] DaemonFC His dentist is nice. She saved us some money when Aspen Dental was jacking us around. [23:55] schestowitz_TR2 rianne fouund a good dentist also [23:55] schestowitz_TR2 first time she goes to one here... [23:56] DaemonFC They wanted to sell us a temporary upper partial plate to be used for the 6 months for $1,000 instead of just refitting his old one for like $50. [23:56] DaemonFC And since temps are "cosmetic" to the insurance company, that's all out of pocket. [23:56] schestowitz_TR2 charged relatively little [23:56] schestowitz_TR2 maybe I'll actually NEED a dentist one day [23:56] schestowitz_TR2 never needed one yet [23:56] DaemonFC The insurance pays like half of his new ones I think. [23:56] DaemonFC It's still going to be a nice wet bite out of my ass. [23:56] DaemonFC But not as bad as self-pay. [23:57] DaemonFC I told him he's going there while he has dental insurance because it's like $4,000 with insurnace. It's like $12,000 without. For everything he needed. [23:57] DaemonFC That's what she told me. [23:57] DaemonFC So if he doesn't get it done now and his teeth fall out and he loses his insurance, no more chances to get it taken care of. [23:58] DaemonFC These partial plates last about 10 or so, and if you lose more teeth, they can just put more in and charge you for the work they did on the one you have. Not the one he has now, but the one she showed us. [23:58] DaemonFC She was commenting about how durable the one he has is. [23:59] DaemonFC Asked where he got it. I said, "The Philippines, for like almost nothing too!" [23:59] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR2, It's not the car that's an endless money pit. [23:59] DaemonFC It's his teeth and the immigration stuff.