●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, August 06, 2021 ●● ● Aug 06 [00:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [00:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.20 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 14.38 swarm size (avg): 279.91 [00:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.20 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 14.38 swarm size (avg): 279.91 [00:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.20 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 14.38 swarm size (avg): 279.91 [00:02] MinceR XRevan86: apparently they didn't even need the pretense [00:03] XRevan86 MinceR: What a weak regime, that one is not going to thrive on lies for a century [00:03] XRevan86 now the US, the smashed it [00:03] MinceR :> [00:03] XRevan86 * they [00:05] XRevan86 MinceR: What is /lusers telling you on irc.com? :) [00:06] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:06] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:07] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:10] XRevan86 Ariadne: https://twitter.com/ThePantheonBar/status/1423173925568237573 (reposted) nah, that's far-fetched, it's just Roman Empire symbolism crossed with the eagle being a US animal or something. [00:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ThePantheonBar: Oh hell no! Yeah these two have a very eerie resemblance. This grifting slime ball is coming out with Nazi party ca https://t.co/FmLui3n37M [00:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ThePantheonBar: Oh hell no! Yeah these two have a very eerie resemblance. This grifting slime ball is coming out with Nazi party ca https://t.co/FmLui3n37M [00:11] XRevan86 At least it's not double-headed. [00:11] MinceR i never connected to irc.com, but [00:11] MinceR 06 011142 [freenode2] -!- Current global users: 11010 Max: 22832 [00:13] XRevan86 MinceR: Thanks, steady negative growth. [00:13] MinceR eagles and similar dinosaurs are really really common among national symbols [00:13] XRevan86 Especially when connected to imperial legacy. [00:15] XRevan86 Which is not the US's case, but they got it, a bit of an outlier. [00:16] XRevan86 Rizon is floating around 11K, so tomorrow it will be bigger for sure this time. [00:17] MinceR nothing is for sure, though [00:17] MinceR the simulation we exist in may be suspended or terminated by then [00:18] XRevan86 MinceR: Right, maybe a meteorite will fall onto all the datacentres where Rizon's servers are. [00:18] MinceR or maybe we'll all be fried by a GRB [00:19] XRevan86 MinceR: Is that a bank? [00:19] MinceR gamma ray burst? not really [00:20] XRevan86 MinceR: Right. It's a tight schedule though. [00:20] MinceR maybe we'll be swallowed by a black hole moving at a relativistic speed [00:20] MinceR maybe we'll be caught in a conversion to strange matter, or a fake vacuum collapse [00:22] XRevan86 MinceR: Or tomorrow Joseon will reestablish its rule and an IRC.com account will be mandatory for all Koreans. [00:23] MinceR lol [00:24] XRevan86 Would be funny if Rizon and freenode were to merge tomorrow :) [00:25] MinceR the account would be insufficient though, accounts don't show up as global users [00:25] XRevan86 MinceR: Obviously with mandatory participation. [00:25] MinceR also, afaik rasengan doesn't have much power over rizon, he only runs a server there [00:26] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/nearly-19-of-chicago-restaurants-have-closed-since-start-of-pandemic [00:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Nearly 19% of Chicago restaurants have closed since start of pandemic | WGN-TV [00:27] XRevan86 MinceR: I only know that there was some involvement, and some cross-pollination. It is pretty obvious that rasengan doesn't actually have power over Rizon though. [00:27] XRevan86 MinceR: Otherwise Rizon would've been in a very different situation right now. [00:27] MinceR indeed [00:29] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/apple-to-scan-u-s-iphones-for-images-of-child-sexual-abuse/ [00:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Apple to scan U.S. iPhones for images of child sexual abuse | WGN-TV [00:29] XRevan86 MinceR: But I think that when freenode becomes dead enough and when rasengan fully gives up, he actually might merge freenode into Rizon. [00:29] DaemonFC Apple says "privacy" then scans all iPhones for things the government doesn't want you to have. [00:29] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, [00:29] XRevan86 MinceR: But don't know, I don't actually know his plans. [00:32] MinceR i'm sure apple hostages want to spend battery power on this scanning process [00:34] XRevan86 I never doubted that I will live to see telescreens. [00:35] XRevan86 at least they're not mandatory [00:37] MinceR :) [00:46] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/08/05/apple-builds-a-universal-backdoor-into-the-iphone/ [00:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Apple builds a universal backdoor into the iPhone. BaronHK's Rants [00:47] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, ^ [00:47] MinceR i thought they already had at least one in there [00:52] DaemonFC They have the master key to anything you put on iCloud. [00:52] DaemonFC But most of that is also on Google's servers, because Apple buys cloud storage from Google and then turns around and calls it iCloud. ● Aug 06 [01:06] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.81 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 11.86 swarm size (avg): 279.87 [01:14] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:14] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:17] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [01:18] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [01:50] *mib_ormxfc (~44500db3@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [01:55] *mib_ormxfc has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) ● Aug 06 [02:06] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.76 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 21.91 swarm size (avg): 279.85 [02:25] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:25] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:31] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:34] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [02:34] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [02:36] AdmFubar https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/08/cryptocurrency-surveillance-provision-buried-infrastructure-bill-disaster-digital [02:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | The Cryptocurrency Surveillance Provision Buried in the Infrastructure Bill is a Disaster for Digital Privacy | Electronic Frontier Foundation [02:36] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. 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It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [03:11] techrights-ipfs-bot QmUBS5HzGuXErkfDwpHxMKeu8if7jt5YH6ph1UrqNMz1B4 [03:46] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [03:48] *mib_ormxfc (~44500db3@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [03:51] *mib_ormxfc has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [03:59] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:59] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 06 [04:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.93 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 34.10 swarm size (avg): 279.83 [04:54] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has left #techrights ● Aug 06 [05:06] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.48 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 70.81 swarm size (avg): 279.76 ● Aug 06 [06:06] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 33.00 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 64.11 swarm size (avg): 279.70 [06:20] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [06:27] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:28] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:32] *immibis (~hexchat@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #techrights [06:43] *psydroid_ (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [06:58] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 06 [07:01] *immibis_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [07:06] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.21 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 68.48 swarm size (avg): 279.63 [07:14] techrights-news "Turning your Raspberry Pi into a music streaming device is easy! Read on to learn everything you need to know to run Raspotify." https://all3dp.com/2/raspotify-spotify-raspberry-pi-tutorial/ [07:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://all3dp.com/2/raspotify-spotify-raspberry-pi-tutorial/ ) [07:58] psydruid https://chipsandcheese.com/2021/08/05/neoverse-n1-vs-zen-2-arm-in-practice/ [07:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: chipsandcheese.com; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://chipsandcheese.com/2021/08/05/neoverse-n1-vs-zen-2-arm-in-practice/ ) [07:59] psydruid of course neoverse n2 will be coming next year and this already performs similar to skylake and amd zen2 ● Aug 06 [08:03] schestowitz-TR how much energy? [08:03] schestowitz https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/08/06/the-risc-v-platform-specification-aims-to-ensure-risc-v-hardware-and-software-compatibility/ [08:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10518 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/08/06/the-risc-v-platform-specification-aims-to-ensure-risc-v-hardware-and-software-compatibility/ ) [08:05] psydruid 1-1.8W per core, so about 5-10W for a 4-core ARM SoC [08:05] schestowitz-TR how much lower than the older x86s? 4 times? [08:06] psydruid which means all of my x86 hardware would be obsolete and probably relegated to niche tasks if I got this kind of ARM hardware [08:06] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.55 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 43.20 swarm size (avg): 279.55 [08:07] psydruid yes [08:10] schestowitz-TR Nothing visible in their first 200 or so items. [08:10] schestowitz-TR lol, hacker news [sic] flagged an article of ours [08:10] schestowitz-TR without ANY explanation [08:13] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [08:13] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [08:24] schestowitz-TR Yes, re-decentralization solves some of that. [08:27] schestowitz-TR However, one long standing complaint is the vigor with which the microsofters [08:27] schestowitz-TR act against technology above and beyond what can be explained by money alone. [08:27] schestowitz-TR oops, wrong channel [08:27] schestowitz-TR sorry [08:27] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [08:28] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [08:36] schestowitz-TR test access: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28077963 [08:37] schestowitz-TR someone cannot access it [08:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10517 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28077963 ) [08:37] schestowitz-TR seems like some esoteric censorship [08:41] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:43] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [08:58] techrights-news #Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, August 05, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [08:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [08:58] techrights-news #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [08:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [08:59] techrights-news Four #LibreOffice 7.1 user guides https://taming-libreoffice.com/2021/08/four-libreoffice-7-1-user-guides/ [08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-taming-libreoffice.com | Four LibreOffice 7.1 user guides Taming LibreOffice ● Aug 06 [09:01] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:01] techrights-news #Apple builds a universal #backdoor into the #iPhone https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/08/05/apple-builds-a-universal-backdoor-into-the-iphone/ [09:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Apple builds a universal backdoor into the iPhone. 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Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/08/we-have-questions-def-cons-puzzling-keynote-speaker-dhs-secretary-mayorkas ) [09:27] techrights-news #Apple builds a universal #backdoor https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/08/apples-plan-think-different-about-encryption-opens-backdoor-your-private-life [09:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: www.eff.org; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/08/apples-plan-think-different-about-encryption-opens-backdoor-your-private-life ) [09:28] techrights-news NEWS #TheVerge #Copyrights #Copyright Scarlett Johanssons Black Widow lawsuit has unearthed a huge problem with streaming https://www.theverge.com/22611516/scarlett-johansson-disney-lawsuit-streaming-services-transparency [09:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Scarlett Johanssons Black Widow lawsuit has unearthed a huge problem withstreaming - The Verge [09:32] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [09:32] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [09:32] techrights-news #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #KrebsOnSecurity #ProprietarySoftware #Ransomware Gangs and the Name Game Distraction https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/08/ransomware-gangs-and-the-name-game-distraction/ [09:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10518 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/08/ransomware-gangs-and-the-name-game-distraction/ ) [09:33] techrights-news es and associated data. https://threatpost.com/microsofts-patch-windows-hello-faulty/168392/ [09:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://threatpost.com/microsofts-patch-windows-hello-faulty/168392/ ) [09:35] schestowitz #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #ThreatPost #ProprietarySoftware Black Hat: Microsofts Patch for Windows Hello Bypass Bug is Faulty, Researchers SayThe vulnerability, tracked as (CVE-2021-34466, CVSS score: 5.7), was patched by Microsoft in July. However, according to research disclosed here at Black Hat USA 2021, the flaw still allows attackers in some scenarios to bypass Windows Hello and Windows Hello for Business, used for single-sign- [09:35] schestowitz on access to a users computer and a host of Windows services and associated data. https://threatpost.com/microsofts-patch-windows-hello-faulty/168392/ [09:35] techrights-news #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #NBC #ProprietarySoftware Step 1: Do a Google search. Ransomware [cracker] goes rogue, leaks gang's plan. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/step-1-google-search-ransomware-hacker-goes-rogue-leaks-gangs-plan-rcna1611 [09:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Step 1: Do a Google search. Ransomware hacker goes rogue, leaks gang's plan. [09:36] techrights-news #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #SentinelLabs #ProprietarySoftware Hotcobalt New Cobalt Strike DoS Vulnerability That Lets You Halt Operations https://labs.sentinelone.com/hotcobalt-new-cobalt-strike-dos-vulnerability-that-lets-you-halt-operations/ [09:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-labs.sentinelone.com | Hotcobalt - New Cobalt Strike DoS Vulnerability That Lets You Halt Operations - SentinelLabs [09:38] techrights-news NEWS #SANS Three Problems with Two Factor Authentication https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/27704 [09:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-isc.sans.edu | InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog [09:39] techrights-news NEWS #TheHill #Privacy #Surveillance #Apple unveils plans to scan US #iPhones for images of child sex abuse https://thehill.com/policy/technology/566603-apple-unveils-plans-to-scan-us-iphones-for-images-of-child-sex-abuse [09:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: thehill.com; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://thehill.com/policy/technology/566603-apple-unveils-plans-to-scan-us-iphones-for-images-of-child-sex-abuse ) [09:40] techrights-news NEWS #VOANews #Privacy #Surveillance #Apple to Scan US #IPhones for Images of Child Sexual Abuse https://www.voanews.com/silicon-valley-technology/apple-scan-us-iphones-images-child-sexual-abuse [09:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Apple to Scan US IPhones for Images of Child Sexual Abuse | Voice of America - English [09:40] techrights-news NEWS #NewYorkTimes #Privacy #Surveillance Beware Free Wi-Fi: Government Urges Workers to Avoid Public Networks https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/04/us/politics/nsa-public-wifi.html [09:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: www.nytimes.com; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/04/us/politics/nsa-public-wifi.html ) [09:40] techrights-news NEWS #Quillette #Privacy #Surveillance When Youre Diagnosed with Autismby #TikTok https://quillette.com/2021/08/03/when-youre-diagnosed-with-autism-by-tiktok/ [09:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When Youre Diagnosed with Autismby TikTok Quillette [09:41] techrights-news NEWS #RTL #Confidentiality Data on 24,000 petition signatories published by accident https://today.rtl.lu/news/luxembourg/a/1766470.html [09:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: today.rtl.lu; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://today.rtl.lu/news/luxembourg/a/1766470.html ) [09:50] techrights-news If Apple existed in the 1960s, it would scan all your devices for homosexuality and report that to the government, no? #backdoors #apple #surveillance [09:57] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:57] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 06 [10:00] techrights-news NEWS #Cracked The Surprising Origins Of Those Racist #England #Soccer Posts https://www.cracked.com/article_30901_the-surprising-origins-of-those-racist-england-soccer-posts.html [10:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.cracked.com/article_30901_the-surprising-origins-of-those-racist-england-soccer-posts.html ) [10:04] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [10:04] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [10:48] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:48] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:51] techrights-news NEWS #Bloomberg #Disinformation #Misinformation #FTC Official Blasts #Facebook Over Revoking Researchers Access https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-05/ftc-official-blasts-facebook-over-revoking-researchers-access [10:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? 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He pays to lie to us some more, even in #twitter http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ [11:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights [11:51] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Trademark #Trademarks Oatly Loses Trademark Suit Against Glebe Farm Foods' PureOaty Product https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210805/09392747307/oatly-loses-trademark-suit-against-glebe-farm-foods-pureoaty-product.shtml [11:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oatly Loses Trademark Suit Against Glebe Farm Foods' PureOaty Product | Techdirt [11:52] techrights-news #www as the source of lots of lame 'tech' https://neritam.wordpress.com/2021/08/04/turning-www-into-an-app-store/ [11:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | Turning WWW into an app store neritam [11:53] techrights-news Punishing sensible people :("The discount only applies to season tickets purchased using the HSL app. Tickets purchased using other methods are at normal prices." https://www.hsl.fi/en/hsl/news/news/2021/08/historiallinen-alennuskampanja-hsl-sovelluksessa-17.8.-alkaen-30-vuorokauden-kausilippuja-puoleen-hintaan [11:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Discount campaign on the HSL app from 17 August: 30-day season tickets at half price - HSL.fi [11:56] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:56] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:58] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [11:59] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Israel Israeli Government Finally Decides To Start Looking Into #NSOGroup And Its Customers https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210731/20074547278/israeli-government-finally-decides-to-start-looking-into-nso-group-customers.shtml [11:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Israeli Government Finally Decides To Start Looking Into NSO Group And Its Customers | Techdirt [11:59] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights ● Aug 06 [12:02] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Record Labels Sue #Charter Again For Failing to Disconnect Pirating Subscribers https://torrentfreak.com/record-labels-sue-charter-again-for-failing-to-disconnect-pirating-subscribers-210805/ [12:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Record Labels Sue Charter Again For Failing to Disconnect Pirating Subscribers * TorrentFreak [12:02] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Olympics Piracy: #Taiwan Lawmakers Criticize Public Figures For Set-Top Box Use https://torrentfreak.com/olympics-piracy-taiwan-lawmakers-criticize-public-figures-for-set-top-box-use-210805/ [12:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Olympics Piracy: Taiwan Lawmakers Criticize Public Figures For Set-Top Box Use * TorrentFreak [12:03] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Copyright #Copyrights Olympics #Copyright Insanity Rules Again: Gold Medal Winner Blocked From Sharing Her Own Victory https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210805/10212647310/olympics-copyright-insanity-rules-again-gold-medal-winner-blocked-sharing-her-own-victory.shtml [12:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Olympics Copyright Insanity Rules Again: Gold Medal Winner Blocked From Sharing Her Own Victory | Techdirt [12:21] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Australia Court Ridiculously Says That AI Can Be An Inventor, Get #Patents https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210801/00400547281/australian-court-ridiculously-says-that-ai-can-be-inventor-get-patents.shtml [12:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Australian Court Ridiculously Says That AI Can Be An Inventor, Get Patents | Techdirt [12:23] techrights-news NEWS #meduza #ru #russia #Belarus In Belarus, its dangerous to be human How civil society organizations became the #Lukashenko regimes latest target https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/08/05/in-belarus-it-s-dangerous-to-be-human [12:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [12:43] techrights-news NEWS #TheNation Zola and the Limits of the #Internet Movie https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/zola-review/ [12:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Zola and the Limits of the Internet Movie | The Nation [12:57] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:58] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 06 [13:04] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [13:05] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [13:06] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 44.91 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 81.98 swarm size (avg): 279.33 [13:32] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:32] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:38] schestowitz raffe [13:38] schestowitz x https://boingboing.net/2021/08/04/hollingsworth-hound-in-space.html [13:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | Hollingsworth Hound in Space! | Boing Boing [13:38] schestowitz # shifting the blame to alcohol to distract from the general abuse [13:38] schestowitz # and degrading treatment of passengers by both airlines and TSA. [13:44] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [13:45] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [13:50] techrights-news #billgates -bribed #bbc does not say what proportion of those dead with #covid19 are (were) fully vaccinated; instead it focuses on another statistic to blame those not paying for #patent licence... ● Aug 06 [14:10] techrights-news #HackerrNews Flags Accurate and Factual Article About Mozilla, So Let's Say More About Mozilla... http://techrights.org/2021/08/06/mozilla-politics/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/06/mozilla-politics/ [14:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Hacker News Flags Accurate and Factual Article About Mozilla, So Lets Say More About Mozilla | Techrights [14:18] techrights-news The same sites that defamed #richardStallman when #billgates connection to Epstein was revealed are now doing #reputationLaundering for Bill over this true scandal (not the fabricated one aboot Stallman) https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html [14:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times [14:20] *gde35 (~kvirc@84-106-154-98.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights [14:21] techrights-news If, as revisionist puff pieces say, #billgates fainted when the public found out about his connections to Epstein it makes him look as guilty as Hell. We already know that this was the moment his wife approached the divorce lawyers, knowing what he had likely done. Her and Warren B. (BFF) quickly sought to distance themselves. Is there an indictment on the way? Is the media strategy a LEGAL strategy that Cosby lacked? Swaying public [14:21] schestowitz " Swaying public opinion?" [14:22] techrights-news Why does #twitter take money form enabler of underage sex traffickers? http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ [14:24] schestowitz x https://www.esecurityplanet.com/applications/open-source-security-a-big-problem/ [14:24] schestowitz # if so, it is due to the M$ way of thinking penetrating into development [14:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open Source Security: A Big Problem | eSecurityPlanet [14:27] techrights-news A lot of the #revisionism about #billgates and Epstein now comes from publications BRIBED by Gates and in some case even EDITED by Gates (by their own admission!). Links omitted. #gatesfoundation #bribery [14:28] techrights-news #apple selling back doors as "for the children" https://www.apple.com/child-safety/ if you think it's all about "children" and not just sold this way, then you're gullible. If you buy Apple's overpriced crap, you most likely already are... [14:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Child Safety - Apple [14:30] techrights-news Why does so much of the #corporateMedia participate in coverup for #billgates h It contributes to this idea they make excuse for child trafficking and its enablers... https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html [14:31] techrights-news #Twitter had me banned for 3 months for saying something perfecty factual about #billgates and later I found out that he was paying them http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ [14:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights [14:33] *CrystalMath (~coderain@qeuw7bhkwsqdi.irc) has joined #techrights [14:36] techrights-news Weve decided to confront #censorship by saying more of whats being suppressed, in this case about #Mozilla and #Firefox (which seem to have become more about politics, not the technical things they once were) http://techrights.org/2021/08/06/mozilla-politics/ [14:49] techrights-news " #Descenders , the extreme sports downhill freeriding game recently had another big free upgrade and after a delay the #GNU #Linux version is back up to date." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/extreme-sports-game-descenders-added-new-bike-parks-new-customization-options [14:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Extreme sports game Descenders added new bike parks, new customization options | GamingOnLinux [14:50] MinceR https://nitter.fdn.fr/ProjectLincoln/status/1423336029541617666 [14:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed to connect to 2001:910:800::118: Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://nitter.fdn.fr/ProjectLincoln/status/1423336029541617666 ) [14:53] techrights-news "If youre forced to work at Facebook or starve, I understand. But you should probably remove any mention of it from your bio. And I hope youre able to find something less horrible to work on soon." https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/106702425431298187 #mozilla HIRED from #facebook for MANAGEMENT: http://techrights.org/2019/11/03/the-privacy-scam/ [14:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "If youre forced to work at Facebook or starve, I" - Arals Mastodon [14:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Facebook and Other Surveillance Capitalists Wont Save Mozilla From Google Dependence | Techrights [14:53] techrights-news "The Small Web isnt about going back to the days of GeoCities. Its about going forward differently, using modern tech in a non-colonial manner." https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/106680277900274823 [14:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "The Small Web isnt about going back to the days " - Arals Mastodon ● Aug 06 [15:01] techrights-news #Games: OpenPOWER, A Monsters Expedition, Gibbous, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154229 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: OpenPOWER, A Monster's Expedition, Gibbous, and More | Tux Machines [15:02] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:02] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:06] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [15:06] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:06] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.60 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 61.43 swarm size (avg): 279.28 [15:12] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [15:14] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [15:17] MinceR (audio:music) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/758741.mp4 [15:24] techrights-news #PipeWire 0.3.33 Released with Some Small but Important Changes x #TuxMachines [15:25] techrights-news Security Leftovers, Proprietary Software, and Microsoft FUD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154231 [15:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers, Proprietary Software, and Microsoft FUD | Tux Machines [15:27] techrights-news #Mozilla: "Use Firefox", Spying, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154232 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla: "Use Firefox", Spying, and More | Tux Machines [15:27] techrights-news #OpenHardware: Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4, RISC-V, and BL602 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154233 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4, RISC-V, and BL602 | Tux Machines [15:28] techrights-news GNU/Linux on Devices, Hardware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154234 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux on Devices, Hardware | Tux Machines [15:28] techrights-news Todays Leftovers and Programming Links http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154235 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today's Leftovers and Programming Links | Tux Machines [15:31] techrights-news Links 6/8/2021: PipeWire 0.3.33 is Out and Apple Admits Its Back Doors http://techrights.org/2021/08/06/apple-admits-back-door/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/06/apple-admits-back-door/ [15:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/8/2021: PipeWire 0.3.33 is Out and Apple Admits Its Back Doors | Techrights ● Aug 06 [16:06] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:06] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@bftvsfhb8ns9n.irc) has joined #techrights [16:18] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:18] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:18] MinceR https://hugelol.com/lol/766659 [16:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hugelol.com | safety first [16:32] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [16:33] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [16:47] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:47] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:53] techrights-news #ibm #redhat pushes three-letter acronyms https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/whats-a-tam https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/what-do-when-robotic-process-automation-not-enough [16:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | What's a TAM and why might you want to be one? | Enable Sysadmin [16:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | What to do when Robotic Process Automation is not enough [16:54] techrights-news Use #OpenCV on #Fedora Linux part 2 - Fedora Magazine https://fedoramagazine.org/use-opencv-on-fedora-linux-part-2/ #Fedora #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linuxmagazine | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/06/#latest [16:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Use OpenCV on Fedora Linux part 2 - Fedora Magazine [16:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [16:55] MinceR (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/cJRFwPJ.mp4 ● Aug 06 [17:00] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:01] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:05] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:05] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:06] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.96 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 47.51 swarm size (avg): 279.22 [17:24] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:24] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights ● Aug 06 [18:37] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [18:38] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [18:41] techrights-news I'm seeing an article entitled "How to Recover Data from BitLocker Encrypted Drive with Ease" but #microsoft and the #nsa can do the same as it is fake #encryption wherein #BitLocker sends Microsoft et al your encryption key! [18:43] techrights-news From what I can gather, that's how many #redhat employees view their #ibm bosses https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/8/how-deal-toxic-teammate [18:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | How to deal with a toxic teammate | The Enterprisers Project [18:45] techrights-news "While working on an android app, you might have to switch between Linux or Ubuntu. Awareness about the environment will save your time and make you more versatile." https://www.hindustantimes.com/brand-post/learn-how-to-become-an-exceptional-developer-from-himalaya-saxena-101628255829788.html [18:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hindustantimes.com | Learn how to become an exceptional developer from Himalaya Saxena - Hindustan Times [18:46] techrights-news Just updated: 20 Command Line Tools to Monitor Linux Performance https://www.tecmint.com/command-line-tools-to-monitor-linux-performance/ [18:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | 20 Command Line Tools to Monitor Linux Performance [18:50] techrights-news #AV1 is a #patent trap of #swpats https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Firefox-92-AVIF-Trying-Again #mozilla #firefox follows #google everywhere... Google controls it with money [18:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Firefox 92 To Try Again With AVIF Image Support By Default - Phoronix [18:51] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154236 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [18:53] techrights-news #ReproducibleBuilds (diffoscope): #diffoscope 180 released https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-180-released/ [18:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-diffoscope.org | diffoscope 180 released [18:56] techrights-news Porting your code to #CPP 17 with #GCC 11 https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/08/06/porting-your-code-c17-gcc-11 #programming [18:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Porting your code to C++17 with GCC 11 | Red Hat Developer [18:58] techrights-news #lfs list your filesystems http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154238 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | lfs list your filesystems | Tux Machines [18:59] techrights-news #postmarketOS Release: v21.06 Service Pack 1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154237 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | postmarketOS Release: v21.06 Service Pack 1 | Tux Machines ● Aug 06 [19:00] techrights-news Bad #microsoft #patent trap, by proxy...? https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/paragon-is-working-to-get-its-ntfs3-filesystem-into-the-linux-kernel/ #swpats [19:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Paragon is working to get its ntfs3 filesystem into the Linux kernel | Ars Technica [19:01] techrights-news #FlaxEngine 1.2 Brings Many Big Improvements For This Open-Source Commercial #GameEngine https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Flax-Engine-1.2.6222 needs to #deletegithub which is #proprietarySoftware [19:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Flax Engine 1.2 Brings Many Big Improvements For This Open-Source Commercial Game Engine - Phoronix [19:05] techrights-news Download Google Fonts Quickly with this Neat GTK App http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154239 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Download Google Fonts Quickly with this Neat GTK App | Tux Machines [19:06] techrights-news Amazon's #DAMON Landing For Linux 5.15 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=DAMON-For-Linux-5.15 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/06/#latest [19:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon's DAMON Landing For Linux 5.15 - Phoronix [19:06] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.80 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 63.58 swarm size (avg): 279.18 [19:08] techrights-news Why does the #SteamDeck run Linux? Blame Windows https://www.pcworld.com/article/3627335/why-does-the-steam-deck-run-linux-blame-windows.html #gnu #linux is far more powerful but #microsoft cheated the market so many #games were compiled for it [19:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why does the Steam Deck run Linux? Blame Windows | PCWorld [19:09] techrights-news #Intel Working To Combine The Best Of CET + #CFI Into "FineIBT" - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-FineIBT-Security #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [19:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Working To Combine The Best Of CET + CFI Into "FineIBT" - Phoronix [19:11] techrights-news "Welcome, August --we're opening the month with another great week. Here's what the #Apache community has been up to..." https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-news-round-up238 [19:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.apache.org | The Apache News Round-up: week ending 6 August 2021 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog [19:14] techrights-news #IBM #RedHat on 10 steps to become a #GNU #Linux samurai https://techcentral.co.za/10-steps-to-become-a-linux-samurai-redprom/109963/ [19:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcentral.co.za | 10 steps to become a Linux samurai - TechCentral [19:18] techrights-news On August 9, join the #RedHat Learning Community Answer the Unanswered contest! https://learn.redhat.com/t5/Red-Hat-Learning-Community-News/On-August-9-join-the-Red-Hat-Learning-Community-Answer-the/ba-p/19224 #ibm [19:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-learn.redhat.com | On August 9, join the Red Hat Learning Community ... - Red Hat Learning Community [19:20] techrights-news Noteworthy: now that some idiots say that the person who CREATED #mastodon needs to step to to "save" it, let's examine what happened to Torvalds and RMS. Usually one likes the first and hates the other (second) or vice person. But those who worked really hard to oust them from their OWN thing did it to BOTH. It's a sabotage modus operadi. [19:22] techrights-news It is also noteworthy that people who worked to oust Torvalds and RMS from THEIR OWN thing only did this TEMPORARILY. When they came back, however, they never regained the same level of authority and became a lot quieter. [19:22] *immibis (~hexchat@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #techrights [19:22] *immibis (~hexchat@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights [19:23] Ariadne i dont have any sympathy for gargron, he encouraged a campaign of defamation against people working on competing projects [19:23] Ariadne that his attack dogs have turned on him is honestly entertaining [19:25] techrights-news #IBM / #RedHat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154240 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:26] techrights-news Tobias Bernard: #Berlin Mini #GUADEC https://blogs.gnome.org/tbernard/2021/08/06/berlin-mini-guadec/ #gnu #linux [19:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | Berlin Mini GUADEC Space and Meaning [19:27] techrights-news Tobias Bernard: Community Power Part 5: First Steps https://blogs.gnome.org/tbernard/2021/08/06/community-power-5/ #gnome #gnu #linux #gtk [19:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | Community Power Part 5: First Steps Space and Meaning [19:32] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: I did not know the details [19:32] schestowitz-TR having said that, it's quite a leap to say we should dethrone people from their own project [19:32] schestowitz-TR it is a rather extreme measure [19:33] Ariadne i mean i do not really care, i just think mastodon should be kicked off w3c socialcg [19:33] Ariadne because mastodon isnt even AP compliant [19:33] Ariadne it breaks the spec in several key areas that are security breaking [19:33] schestowitz-TR people should start their own projects [19:33] CrystalMath Ariadne: how so? [19:33] Ariadne and mastodon just fixes it by hiding stuff [19:33] schestowitz-TR rather than try a hostile takeover [19:33] schestowitz-TR pleroma is one example [19:33] CrystalMath do you prefer pleroma? [19:34] Ariadne well i was one of its authors [19:34] Ariadne soooo [19:34] schestowitz-TR you also started your own DB-less AP software [19:34] Ariadne yes [19:34] CrystalMath the thing is, pleroma is very bloated IMO [19:34] CrystalMath it's much heavier than mastodon [19:34] Ariadne is it [19:34] CrystalMath and requires so many dependencies [19:34] schestowitz-TR I did not study their internals [19:34] CrystalMath but then again so does mastodon [19:34] Ariadne it requires elixir and postgresql [19:34] CrystalMath both of these are too heavy for my taste [19:35] schestowitz-TR I know wordpress reasonable well, up until a decade ago [19:35] Ariadne i mean maybe it requires more now [19:35] schestowitz-TR wordpress >seems< to have lost focus on what it was good at [19:36] Ariadne CrystalMath: honestly the fediverse and andrew lees freenode are not too dissimilar [19:36] Ariadne both are platforms where people dunk on each other for internet fun points [19:36] schestowitz-TR it's often, as you both insinuate a balance between features and complexity aspects [19:36] schestowitz-TR many projects go too far [19:36] schestowitz-TR and that means maintaining them becomes very expensive in the long run [19:36] schestowitz-TR Linux will fall one day [19:36] Ariadne so is twitter, but at least i can use twitter to market alpine projects [19:36] schestowitz-TR under its own weight [19:36] Ariadne social media is trash [19:37] schestowitz-TR someone will make a kernel light enough to compel people to rebuild with just enough drivers, and I don't thionk openbsd is that [19:37] Ariadne anyway gargrons army of concern trolls going after him [19:37] *alextee (~alextee@bqaiucian72fn.irc) has joined #techrights [19:37] Ariadne is just [19:37] Ariadne its really great [19:37] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: NetBSD :) [19:37] schestowitz-TR I didn't know they had turned against him [19:37] CrystalMath NetBSD is beautiful in how light it is [19:37] schestowitz-TR I avoided all the drama [19:37] *alextee has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:37] schestowitz-TR I know nothing at all about him except his name [19:38] schestowitz-TR CrystalMath: can it run webservers ok? [19:38] CrystalMath yes [19:38] schestowitz-TR does it (much)? [19:38] CrystalMath there may be a slight loss in speed compared to linux in the networking side [19:38] schestowitz-TR I mean, name some sites that use netbsd and not freebsd [19:38] Ariadne i dunno, the whole fediverse thing is under the it didnt really work out section in my mental model [19:38] CrystalMath but also far less memory usage [19:39] CrystalMath Ariadne: i wish there were still open IRC network that anyone can link to :P [19:39] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: i think social control media won't last much longer [19:39] CrystalMath *networks [19:39] schestowitz-TR twitter's impact has been reduced in the past 5 years, as it gravitated towards "celebs" [19:39] *alextee (~alextee@bqaiucian72fn.irc) has joined #techrights [19:40] Ariadne CrystalMath: there is, its called pissnet [19:40] CrystalMath oh really? pissnet is open? [19:40] schestowitz-TR CrystalMath: irc networks should be a broad web with tons of channels in their own supportive embrella [19:40] Ariadne basically [19:40] schestowitz-TR freenode wasn't that, it had become a monolith for over one decade [19:40] Ariadne you show up and theres a ton of people who will give you a link block [19:41] CrystalMath so i can just connect my own server to it? at the expense of being known for linking a server to pissnet [19:41] Ariadne nearly 300 serves linked [19:41] Ariadne yes [19:41] schestowitz-TR apparently youtube, which is another social control video form (webm as "content" type), is waning [19:41] schestowitz-TR it's prioritising revenue now.. and now for "content" creators [19:41] schestowitz-TR *no [19:41] schestowitz-TR *not [19:42] schestowitz-TR we all pay a collective price now [19:42] schestowitz-TR for all the years we pretended google monopoly over web video was benign [19:42] schestowitz-TR and let people become part of this monolith [19:43] techrights-news Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154241 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:43] techrights-news #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154242 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:45] schestowitz-TR in Google's case, search and video, the issue isn't just tied to distribution of money [19:45] schestowitz-TR but also to diversity of views [19:45] psydruid > [notice] Why does the Steam Deck run Linux? Blame Windows | PCWorld [19:45] psydruid And now they have to buy up game studios to keep Windows/Xbox as a gaming platform alive [19:45] schestowitz-TR as they crack down on and removed even things deemed perfectly acceptable 10-15 years ago [19:45] schestowitz-TR like history channels that present documentary evidence about Nazi Germany [19:46] schestowitz-TR psydruid: /s/buy/hire/ [19:49] techrights-news #AMDVLK 2021.Q3.3 Released With Performance Tuning For Rage 2 On Navi 2 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDVLK-2021.Q3.3-Released #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/06/#latest [19:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDVLK 2021.Q3.3 Released With Performance Tuning For Rage 2 On Navi 2 - Phoronix [19:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [19:57] techrights-news LOL. Rebranding servers at #rosehosting ... as #clowncomputing https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/when-should-you-use-cloud-hosting/ fake novelty with buzzwords to compensate for lack of considerable pregress [19:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When Should You Use Cloud Hosting? | RoseHosting [19:59] techrights-news Reminder: 2 seats inside #linuxfoundation Board were sold to people who work for a company looking to buy CRACKING tools from #nsogroup ... this company deserves in prison. ● Aug 06 [20:02] techrights-news Leadership vacuums in #linux (attack on founders and long timers like Tso) simply mean that the #linuxfoundation funders take over everything, including decision-making. Do you want 'tech gangsters' to control the very kernel of most free/libre operating systems? Surely not. http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation [20:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights [20:04] techrights-news GAFAM problem-solution: #linux is broken, we have a #security crisis, now (as a 'soliution') let's break the simplicity and add complexity to the #kernel with a project #microsoft #proprietarySoftware controls (and Google controls at the fiscal level) [20:05] techrights-news #linuxfoundation as a concern-trolling #marketing and #lobbying firm http://techrights.org/2021/05/07/trolling-the-real-community/ [20:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Biggest Troll is the Linux Foundation, Still Looking to Provoke and Defame Free Software Communities in Order to Help a Monopolistic Takeover and to Shoehorn Tyrants Into Leadership Positions | Techrights [20:06] techrights-news #microsoft #linux with Microsoft #swpats and technical deficiencies https://linuxiac.com/paragon-ntfs3/ [20:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxiac.com | Paragon's NTFS3 Driver is About to Become A Part of the Linux Kernel [20:07] techrights-news #LTTng 2.13.0 - #Nordicit - #Linux #kernel and user-space tracer https://lists.lttng.org/pipermail/lttng-dev/2021-August/030046.html [20:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.lttng.org | [lttng-dev] LTTng 2.13.0 - Nordicit - Linux kernel and user-space tracer [20:08] techrights-news GNOME's New Human Interface Guidelines Now Official - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Updated-GNOME-HIG-Official "tweets" as 'sources'... :/ [20:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GNOME's New Human Interface Guidelines Now Official - Phoronix [20:10] techrights-news "Well this is certainly a surprise. YoYo Games have announced an early Beta for #GameMaker Studio 2 version 2.3.4 that brings with it a new IDE for Ubuntu Linux. So you can make GMS #games on #Ubuntu now." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/gamemaker-studio-2-introduces-an-ubuntu-linux-editor [20:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GameMaker Studio 2 introduces an Ubuntu Linux editor in Beta | GamingOnLinux [20:11] techrights-news #NVIDIA release a new #Vulkan Beta Driver with 470.56.05 | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/nvidia-release-a-new-vulkan-beta-driver-with-4705605 #GamingOnLinux #Graphics [20:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA release a new Vulkan Beta Driver with 470.56.05 | GamingOnLinux [20:15] techrights-news "Unlike the XPS 13, however, the larger 17-inch model isnt available as a Developer Edition. This means Dell doesnt sell an Ubuntu version of XPS 17 its only available with Windows 10 preinstalled." #malware obligatory. #dell https://www.xda-developers.com/dell-xps-17-linux/ [20:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | Does the Dell XPS 17 support Linux? Can you install it? [20:16] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154243 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:16] techrights-news Games: Flax Engine 1.2, Steam Deck, and GameMaker Studio 2 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154244 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Flax Engine 1.2, Steam Deck, and GameMaker Studio 2 | Tux Machines [20:18] techrights-news #DEFCON : we are not against #surveillance https://hackaday.com/2021/08/05/hands-on-def-con-29-badge-embraces-the-new-normal/ [20:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hands On: DEF CON 29 Badge Embraces The New Normal | Hackaday [20:20] techrights-news #ibm pushing #proprietarySoftware under the "clown" banner https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/a-deep-dive-integrating-cloudera-data-platform-and-ibm-cloud-pak-for-data/ [20:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | A technical deep-dive on integrating Cloudera Data Platform and IBM Cloud Pak for Data IBM Developer [20:21] techrights-news Seems like #IBM / #RedHat , following the so-called 'Linux' Foundation, will impose #proprietarysoftware and #surveillance on people wishing to attend events https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/covid-19-global-updates-default-remote-vaccination-and-mask-guidance [20:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | COVID-19 Global Updates: Default to remote + vaccination and mask guidance [20:22] techrights-news #ibm : give us your hand/wrist, we'll assign you a number. http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/ibm-and-rms-incompatible/ [20:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and RMS Are Not Compatible | Techrights [20:23] techrights-news This Arduino-based machine is an easy and efficient way to cut strips of paper | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/08/06/this-arduino-based-machine-is-an-easy-and-efficient-way-to-cut-strips-of-paper/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/06/#latest [20:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This Arduino-based machine is an easy and efficient way to cut strips of paper | Arduino Blog [20:27] techrights-news "The Ascent is a new cyberpunk-infused action RPG with a touch of Twin Stick Shooter combat. I have opinions and impressions of how it runs on Linux with Steam Proton!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSF2ykKSUDA [20:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WILL IT LINUX? | The Ascent - YouTube [20:28] techrights-news Not many people need this at home... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi-UuW8xjao [20:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tom Wires Jay's Office for 10 Gigabit Ethernet! - YouTube [20:30] techrights-news Worse than foolish to make #LibreOffice dependent on a manipulative censorship network of LibreOffice enemy, #Microsoft https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/08/06/importance-of-linkedin-pages/ see http://techrights.org/2020/06/28/linkedin-censorship/ [20:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | The importance of LinkedIn Pages for the LibreOffice Project - The Document Foundation Blog [20:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When It Comes to Killing Businesses Microsoft Defends Its Crown | Techrights [20:32] techrights-news #ItaloVignoli wants to cancel Richard Stallman, based on lies, but he makes excuses for #Microsoft , which attacks #LibreOffice . But then again, Italo Vignoli is in the Board of a Microsoft-connected front group, #OSI http://techrights.org/2021/07/21/microsoft-plots-osi/ [20:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Open Source Initiative (OSI) a Sinking Ship in Service of Microsoft Monopoly, Proprietary Software, and Even GPL Violations | Techrights [20:33] techrights-news #OSI Board at Microsoft: This is How Institutions Die or Completely Lose Their Purpose/Direction http://techrights.org/2020/01/15/osi-board-at-microsoft/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/01/15/osi-board-at-microsoft/ [20:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | OSI Board at Microsoft: This is How Institutions Die or Completely Lose Their Purpose/Direction | Techrights [20:34] techrights-news A Factual Timeline of Attempts to Pressure the #FSF Into Submission (Not to Promote Real Community and Freedom) http://techrights.org/2021/03/27/objective-look-at-phony-scandal/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/27/objective-look-at-phony-scandal/ [20:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Factual Timeline of Attempts to Pressure the FSF Into Submission (Not to Promote Real Community and Freedom) | Techrights [20:36] techrights-news #suse is a #microosft and #sap reseller https://www.suse.com/c/sap-hana-scale-out-system-replication-for-large-erp-systems/ see http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/novell-suse-sap/ [20:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SAP HANA Scale-Out System Replication for large ERP Systems | SUSE Communities [20:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | SUSE Said It Was Becoming Independent But Instead It Became Like an Asset of SAP (German Microsoft), Which is Hostile Towards Free Software | Techrights [20:37] techrights-news #suse has outsourced its documentation to #microsoft #proprietarySoftare https://www.suse.com/c/suse-linux-enterprise-micro-5-1-public-beta-beta-2-is-out/ https://suse.com/betaprogram/micro-beta/ #monopoly [20:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.1 Public Beta (Beta 2) is out! | SUSE Communities [20:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-suse.com | Micro Beta [20:38] techrights-news #openSUSE #Tumbleweed Review of the week 2021/31 http://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2021/08/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2021-31/ #suse #gnu #linux [20:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dominique.leuenberger.net | openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2021/31 Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*) [20:41] techrights-news #Google has the nerve to allege Linux it not secure after Google itself put #NSA -connected weakened #encryption (back door) inside #Linux https://hackaday.com/2021/08/06/this-week-in-security-insecure-chargers-request-forgeries-and-kernel-security/ [20:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This Week In Security: Insecure Chargers, Request Forgeries, And Kernel Security | Hackaday [20:42] techrights-news Top Android Emulators For Linux : Run Android Apps on Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154245 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top Android Emulators For Linux : Run Android Apps on Linux | Tux Machines [20:43] techrights-news pgmoneta 0.4.0 https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgmoneta-040-2272/ #db #database #psql #postgres [20:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: pgmoneta 0.4.0 [20:44] techrights-news #Pgpool II 4.2.4, 4.1.8, 4.0.15, 3.7.20 and 3.6.27 released. https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgpool-ii-424-418-4015-3720-and-3627-released-2271/ / #db #database #psql #postgres [20:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: Pgpool-II 4.2.4, 4.1.8, 4.0.15, 3.7.20 and 3.6.27 released. [20:45] techrights-news You do NOT need #proprietarySofwtare for #database ... not since decades ago. At work we use mostly #postgres and in my personal projects #mysql / #mariadb ... and both are rock-solid. Any claims to the contrary are somebody's #MARKETING [20:46] techrights-news Ivan Molodetskikh: #GSoC 2021: Screenshots with Pointer https://imolodetskikh.wordpress.com/2021/08/06/gsoc-2021-screenshots-with-pointer/ #gnome #gnu #linux [20:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imolodetskikh.wordpress.com | GSoC 2021: Screenshots with Pointer Ivan Molodetskikh's Blog [20:50] techrights-news #billBC is pushing lots of propaganda right now, inciting against people who choose to (not yet) get onboard with #astraZeneca (clinical trials traditionally take years if not a decade) [20:50] techrights-news #GNOME Desktop/GTK: GNOME Shell. Human Interface Guidelines (HIG), and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154246 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME Desktop/GTK: GNOME Shell. Human Interface Guidelines (HIG), and More | Tux Machines [20:59] MinceR https://nitter.fdn.fr/tha_rami/status/1423626425735819265?s=09 [20:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed to connect to 2001:910:800::118: Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://nitter.fdn.fr/tha_rami/status/1423626425735819265?s=09 ) ● Aug 06 [21:01] schestowitz-TR lol [21:03] techrights-news #Kernel: LTTng, DAMON, Paragon, and Security http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154247 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: LTTng, DAMON, Paragon, and Security | Tux Machines [21:06] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.41 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 81.45 swarm size (avg): 279.11 [21:06] schestowitz-TR MinceR: sums up much of what's worng [21:06] schestowitz-TR and what needs tackling for being wrong [21:07] MinceR indeed -- suits [21:08] MinceR sense 2, that is. http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/S/suit.html [21:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.catb.org | suit [21:08] techrights-news LOL! #watchtroll now defending a major injustice if not gross #corruption of the #patent system in "Dont Go Down the Rabbit Hole with the Foes of Bayh-Dole"... see http://techrights.org/2018/05/06/overselling-patents/ [21:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Patents Roundup: Nintendo, Watchtrolls Lies, Judge Reynas Latest Decision (Disc Disease), and Bayh-Dole | Techrights [21:09] techrights-news Linux smartphone news roundup: Waydroid, postmarketOS, Phosh, and MauKit updates http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154248 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux smartphone news roundup: Waydroid, postmarketOS, Phosh, and MauKit updates | Tux Machines [21:09] schestowitz-TR MinceR: let's hope that if covid doesn't kill the suits it'll put them all out of work [21:09] schestowitz-TR they're the only reason workers are being pushed back into officer [21:09] schestowitz-TR in spite of the lingering risk [21:09] schestowitz-TR home working makes more of them redundant [21:10] schestowitz-TR the spying firms, GAFAM included, oversell to them and false market snake oil like "productivity score" [21:10] MinceR unlikely [21:10] schestowitz-TR so burn down GAFAM too [21:10] MinceR our society is ruled by sociopaths [21:10] schestowitz-TR yeah [21:10] schestowitz-TR let's change that [21:10] schestowitz-TR they will pass new laws [21:10] MinceR if only i had an army [21:10] schestowitz-TR but we can work around those new laws [21:10] MinceR preferably a robot army [21:11] schestowitz-TR MinceR: HEY HI army [21:11] schestowitz-TR we managed to oust one manager at work [21:11] schestowitz-TR by raising complaints [21:11] schestowitz-TR unions can work too [21:11] schestowitz-TR see EPO [21:11] schestowitz-TR workers still have a lot of power over the sociopaths [21:11] MinceR i doubt there even are unions in IT [21:12] schestowitz-TR they need to organise better [21:12] MinceR especially in software development [21:12] schestowitz-TR in the digital realm they need more tooling and education [21:12] schestowitz-TR MinceR: you'd be surprised [21:12] schestowitz-TR maybe informal unions [21:12] schestowitz-TR but we need to be more like airport workers [21:13] schestowitz-TR and really disrupt things when management goes rogue [21:13] schestowitz-TR like datacentres left with nobody to keep them running [21:14] techrights-news The corrupt #EPO management finds allies in the Communist Party of China because high levels of crimes at EPO are only tolerated in oppressive regimes (other than EU) https://www.mondaq.com/china/patent/1099244/cnipa-and-epo-collaborate-to-simplify-patent-application-process [21:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | CNIPA And EPO Collaborate To Simplify Patent Application Process - Intellectual Property - China [21:15] schestowitz-TR MinceR: you are a taf too pessimistic [21:15] schestowitz-TR we need at least a shrapnel of optimism to accomplish something [21:15] MinceR i'm optimist [21:15] MinceR i trust humanity's ability to exterminate itself [21:16] MinceR which will be the greatest thing it has ever done [21:16] schestowitz-TR lol, well... not THAT self-desctructive type of optimism [21:16] schestowitz-TR I suppose one rocket per oligarch [21:16] schestowitz-TR send them to space, one-way ticket [21:16] schestowitz-TR let's figure out how to deal with the assets they have left behind [21:17] techrights-news "Wildfires in Turkey failed to damage a coal-burning power plant enough to prevent it from making worse #wildfires in the future." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-may-aug.html#5_August_2021_(Wildfires_in_Turkey) [21:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: May - August Political Notes - Richard Stallman [21:19] techrights-news Latest from #freenode aka Andrew Lee. No comment necessary, this is minutes old: https://freenode.net/news/trojan-horse [21:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | On Apple, Trojan Horses and Truth - freenode [21:19] MinceR problem is, we keep bringing them home [21:19] techrights-news Andrew Lee: "Anyway, I will no longer be using #Apple from this day forward, even though while getting shit on in the FOSS community for it, I continued to do so. Trust is really dead - don't trust, verify is really where we're at. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise - without verification." https://freenode.net/news/trojan-horse [21:19] MinceR and we even shield them against reentry when applicable [21:19] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: ^ [21:19] schestowitz-TR minutes ago [21:20] MinceR took him a while [21:20] schestowitz-TR yeah [21:20] schestowitz-TR he also dumped github [21:20] MinceR > Much like the story of the Trojan Horse, which appeared to be a gift, Apple too appeared to be a truly trustable and hardlined privacy company. [21:20] schestowitz-TR it's now just mirror/archive [21:20] MinceR to whom? absolute idiots? [21:20] schestowitz-TR freenode is doomed [21:20] schestowitz-TR but [21:20] schestowitz-TR let's make something positive of it... [21:20] Ariadne why are you giving this absolute cretin a platform [21:21] schestowitz-TR I do? [21:21] MinceR he bought himself a platform [21:21] Ariadne exactly [21:21] Ariadne no need to give him free traffic [21:21] Ariadne :D [21:21] MinceR should have linked to archive.is, i guess [21:21] Ariadne i mean i guess it's important to archive his crap [21:21] schestowitz-TR it take a long time to generate archive.is pages [21:21] Ariadne but he probably still is using exclusively apple operating systems [21:22] MinceR i mean then freenode.net wouldn't have received hits [21:22] schestowitz-TR I could never figure out why it takes so much longer than just rendering whole pages in one's Web browser [21:22] Ariadne i doubt he would ever use the free desktop [21:22] MinceR i guess he slept through "the fappening" as well [21:22] schestowitz-TR who needs "the fappening"? [21:23] schestowitz-TR bagira just uses buckets from irc networks [21:23] schestowitz-TR allegedly [21:23] MinceR lol [21:23] schestowitz-TR bitbuckets [21:23] schestowitz-TR not the c** ones [21:24] XRevan86 schestowitz: Strange: when Louis Rossmann makes analogies (https://youtu.be/XZhKzy-zkEw), I get them; when Andrew Lee does it, they seem forced. [21:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple SCANNING your iPhone to check for CHILD ABUSE - THIS IS NOT PRIVACY! - YouTube [21:24] schestowitz-TR those big irc networks had trust presumed [21:24] schestowitz-TR but I think more people reality those networks are sausage factories [21:24] schestowitz-TR they're not what you convince yourself they are [21:25] Ariadne i mean, i don't think anyone reasonable supports child porn [21:25] Ariadne but, if you don't want to be abused by apple, you should not use their cloud service [21:25] schestowitz-TR before the freenode saga: [21:25] schestowitz-TR it's about misuse of irc networks and moreover the control over those networks [21:25] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/communication-channels-cancel-mobbed/ [21:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Pro-Software Freedom Advocates and Free/Libre Software Supporters Face Barriers Due to Domination of Communication Channels (Beyond the Media) | Techrights [21:25] MinceR if you don't want to be abused by apple, don't use their products or disservices [21:26] schestowitz "http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/communication-channels-cancel-mobbed/" [21:26] schestowitz "Long story short, there seems to be a cabal of people with mixed loyalty or a conflict of interest. This begets censorship." [21:26] XRevan86 schestowitz: "When government officials with no medical background are paying influencers who have NaN experience in science or medicine to encourage people of the world to inject themselves with an experimental drug that mutates cells, hasn't been tested" pay attention to this bit. [21:26] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: it is not about children [21:26] MinceR which experimental drug mutates cells? [21:27] Ariadne its not [21:27] schestowitz-TR [14:28] #apple selling back doors as "for the children" https://www.apple.com/child-safety/ if you think it's all about "children" and not just sold this way, then you're gullible. If you buy Apple's overpriced crap, you most likely already are... [21:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Child Safety - Apple [21:27] XRevan86 schestowitz: "let's make something positive of it..." with this nutjob of a blogpost? [21:27] XRevan86 MinceR: mRNA vaccines probably are the ones implied. [21:28] XRevan86 s/probably/very likely/ [21:28] schestowitz-TR i didn't read that far [21:28] MinceR (audio:unimportant) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/766566.webm [21:28] MinceR XRevan86: mRNA does not do that, though [21:28] XRevan86 MinceR: What's your point? [21:29] XRevan86 It doesn't matter if they do or not, there was a hoax that they do, and now it's here. [21:29] MinceR :> [21:29] schestowitz-TR theory [21:29] schestowitz-TR let me finish before leaping [21:29] XRevan86 hypothesis [21:29] schestowitz-TR many of these theories are based on 'semi-truths' [21:30] schestowitz-TR they help create societal resistance to certain claims [21:30] schestowitz-TR example: [21:30] schestowitz-TR billgates did in fact help a sexual child trafficker [21:30] MinceR oh, i didn't read the entire post [21:30] schestowitz-TR went to jail [21:30] schestowitz-TR to help him out [21:30] MinceR so i didn't notice the nuttiest part [21:30] schestowitz-TR so you drown out the Web with nonsense that sounds related [21:30] schestowitz-TR then people quit listening to the actual story [21:30] schestowitz-TR 5g is the same [21:30] XRevan86 schestowitz: mRNA vaccines have only one downside to them: they have higher storage requirements. [21:30] schestowitz-TR there are many legit issues with it [21:31] schestowitz-TR also, with some of the many vaccines there is evidence of low efficacy and side effects [21:31] schestowitz-TR but they try to lump in sceptics with anti-vaxxers [21:31] schestowitz-TR will it work? to some degree it already works [21:31] XRevan86 schestowitz: Which are literally the opposite kind of vaccines to the ones criticised. [21:31] schestowitz-TR they make a binary condition of compliance or crank [21:32] MinceR iirc most of them reduce the probability of serious symptomps by something like 99% [21:32] MinceR that seems pretty damn effective :> [21:32] XRevan86 No one makes hoaxes about the peptide shit mutating oneself, don't they. [21:32] MinceR s/mps/ms/ [21:32] MinceR well, second-generation vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 are only starting to appear now, afaik [21:32] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: that helps associate everyone not taking shots with |"anti-science" and dumb [21:33] schestowitz-TR MinceR: some people wait for the "next gen" ones [21:33] schestowitz-TR the ones with better resistance to more modern forms of it [21:33] XRevan86 schestowitz: But don't ye do the same by trying to defend legitimate cases lumping them with Andrew Lee who makes a faulty case against the best vaccines there currently are? [21:33] schestowitz-TR with predecessing stuff already tested on large populations of humans [21:34] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: he is part of the BS [21:34] schestowitz-TR whether willfully or not [21:34] MinceR schestowitz-TR: the stuff that was available early was first-gen (inactivated/etc virion) and third-gen (mRNA, virus vector) [21:34] XRevan86 rather, by trying to defend Andrew Lee lumping him with legitimate cases [21:35] schestowitz-TR causes? [21:35] schestowitz-TR btw, at one point the qanon nuts tried to enter irc and spread their bs here [21:35] XRevan86 schestowitz: When I wrote the sentence initially I kinda swapped them, on re-read it became apparent. [21:36] schestowitz-TR it's a good thing that it's darn difficult to leave blog comments in techrights [21:36] schestowitz-TR lee amuses me [21:36] schestowitz-TR lee: i am a super royalty super rich man [21:36] XRevan86 "are paying influencers who have NaN experience" also, impressive use of "NaN", he probably meant "nada" but wanted to sound techy. [21:36] *cow_2001 (~un@user/cow-2001/x-5712099) has joined #techrights [21:36] schestowitz-TR but he also riles people up against "big tech' and the rich [21:37] XRevan86 unquantifiable experience? [21:37] schestowitz-TR while failing to spot the contradiction [21:37] XRevan86 schestowitz: Could be why he relates to Donald Trump so much. [21:37] schestowitz-TR how about GaN [21:37] MinceR rich people riling up poor people against other rich people? well, i never! [21:37] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigaxonin [21:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Gigaxonin - Wikipedia [21:38] Ariadne that freenode post [21:38] Ariadne is truly some unhinged shit [21:38] schestowitz-TR yeah [21:38] XRevan86 Ariadne: I can't decide if it's worth the ultimate praise ( https://youtu.be/5hfYJsQAhl0 ) or not. [21:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Ultimate Insult - May God Have Mercy On Your Soul - Billy Madison (Academic Decathlon) - YouTube [21:39] schestowitz-TR [21:18] Latest from #freenode aka Andrew Lee. No comment necessary [21:39] Ariadne i bet you hes using [21:39] Ariadne macbook right now [21:39] schestowitz-TR people are smart enough to see this is freenode becoming very unprofessional [21:39] schestowitz-TR and the ravings of one person [21:39] schestowitz-TR now rebranded as "root" [21:40] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: maybe a virtual machine on the mac [21:40] schestowitz-TR sticking it to the man! [21:40] schestowitz-TR macbook air [21:40] Ariadne the solution for this spying issue is to not use icloud btw [21:40] schestowitz-TR not just that [21:40] Ariadne the scanning stuff is in the icloud client [21:40] schestowitz-TR reject all those "techs" [21:40] Ariadne sure, im just saying from technical pov [21:41] schestowitz-TR inc the so-called 'smart' 'phones' [21:41] Ariadne the scanning is in the icloud client [21:41] Ariadne lol [21:41] MinceR also to not use a device on which the design owner has remote root access while the customer doesn't even have local root access [21:41] schestowitz-TR we've said that for decades [21:41] schestowitz-TR MinceR: that is the vats majority of 'smart' things [21:41] schestowitz-TR inc. my home router [21:42] schestowitz-TR I recently looked into how to reflash them with openwrt [21:42] *psydroid_ has quit (connection closed) [21:42] techrights-news "Apartment rental companies donated a million dollars to a Democratic Party PAC, not long before Democrats had to unite to extend the eviction ban. Perhaps it was not a coincidence that they failed to do that." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-may-aug.html#5_August_2021_(Donations_to_Democratic_PAC) [21:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: May - August Political Notes - Richard Stallman [21:42] XRevan86 OpenWrt: my router has WPA3, nothing else does. [21:43] schestowitz-TR I reckon BT would never support homes with openwrt at the access points [21:43] schestowitz-TR or would deny requests for support up to some level [21:44] techrights-news "In my previous blog, I discussed the progress on adding new activities to #GCompris project. In the past 2 weeks, I was working on implementing a new activity: Mouse Control Action activity." https://mariamfahmy98.wordpress.com/2021/08/06/gsoc21-week-7-and-8-mouse-control-action-activity/ [21:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mariamfahmy98.wordpress.com | GSoC21 Week 7 and 8: Mouse Control Action Activity Mariam Fahmy [21:44] *cow_2001 has quit (Quit: cow_2001) [21:46] techrights-news RMS: "Congress should prohibit all new #fossilfuel development. There is no room in the carbon budget for any additional fossil fuel development." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-may-aug.html#5_August_2021_(Arctic_Wildlife_Refuge) [21:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: May - August Political Notes - Richard Stallman [21:51] schestowitz-TR online troll: if you reflash your BT router, it will ruin your 5G reception on the billgates epstein vaccines 9/11 [21:51] schestowitz-TR tweet this, be banned for sure ;) [21:52] MinceR :> [21:55] saint_dogbert/fn I'll do it [21:55] saint_dogbert/fn I need to create an account first [21:55] saint_dogbert/fn but I'll do it :D [21:55] schestowitz-TR it might take a while [21:55] saint_dogbert/fn Thats okay. I've got a lot of time [21:55] *tr_guest|66197 (~ad462eb2@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [21:55] schestowitz-TR for them to assign the "case" to a laid-paid employee in "HEY HI"clothing [21:56] *tr_guest|66197 has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [21:56] schestowitz-TR apparently some people take health advice from social control media [21:57] schestowitz-TR as if their GPs are quacks and clown_dummy21 from twitter knows "the truth" about vaccines [21:57] saint_dogbert/fn I figured that most of them dress like this; https://www.teamjimmyjoe.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Babe.jpg [21:58] schestowitz-TR no comment [21:59] saint_dogbert/fn I probably shouldn't comment further either on that topic... never know if the feds will come kick in my door and haul me off to the DC jails with charges of insurrection [21:59] schestowitz-TR maybe one day facebook will recognise that is has a sexist "nipple politics" ● Aug 06 [22:00] schestowitz-TR never mind religious views on indecency [22:00] schestowitz-TR note: most us politicians are religious [22:03] techrights-news #IBM /Red Hat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154249 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [22:03] techrights-news SUSE: Update on #OpenSUSE Tumbleweed and #SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.1 Public Beta http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154250 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE: Update on OpenSUSE Tumbleweed and SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.1 Public Beta | Tux Machines [22:03] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154251 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [22:05] schestowitz-TR Speaking of freenoe [22:05] schestowitz-TR techrights made front page of hacker news yesterday [22:05] schestowitz-TR and it looks like some people tried to flag it [22:06] schestowitz-TR because something about "it wrote about freenode" (not direct quote) [22:06] schestowitz-TR the article had nothing to do with freenode [22:06] CrystalMath huh? [22:06] schestowitz-TR so it seems like the same people who cancelled loads of folks inc. RMS now try to also censor anyone PERCEIVE [22:07] schestowitz-TR merely PERCEIVED [22:07] schestowitz-TR to have supported freenode at some point [22:07] schestowitz-TR this is ridiculous [22:07] schestowitz-TR they'll never stop [22:07] schestowitz-TR even if we did a complete reversal of our views when freenode went openly rogue [22:08] CrystalMath i do admit that i was absoluely pro-freenode [22:08] schestowitz-TR People who do this are Maoist a-holes [22:08] CrystalMath i just can't make sense of this last move [22:08] schestowitz-TR let them move to China [22:08] schestowitz-TR and see how far they get on... [22:08] CrystalMath SASL-only, that's basically suicide [22:09] CrystalMath it has dipped below rizon and is now meeting quakenet [22:09] schestowitz-TR CrystalMath: I have two clients connected to freenode [22:09] Ariadne its because he just wants a bouncy castle [22:09] Ariadne with people who agree with him 100% [22:09] schestowitz-TR but they just didn't hang up yet, I won't be able to re-establish connection with these [22:09] Ariadne the people who meet that criterion will not mind the SASL-only [22:09] CrystalMath Ariadne: but why does he even believe in SASL-only? [22:09] Ariadne i think because the irc.com app [22:09] CrystalMath i have an account, i use SASL and TLS [22:09] Ariadne does SASL [22:09] schestowitz-TR BTW, Lee and other did not even like my initial coverage of freenode [22:09] schestowitz-TR they complained [22:10] Ariadne he wants everyone to use the irc.com app [22:10] schestowitz-TR because it wasn't pro-Lee enough... :-) [22:10] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: not many will [22:10] Ariadne yes [22:10] Ariadne well [22:10] schestowitz-TR and the cost, user erosion, is far too high [22:10] Ariadne when you have cluster B personality disorder, you might see it differently [22:11] schestowitz-TR makes one wonder what that app actually does to users, maybe farming them for data [22:11] Ariadne its probably harmless [22:11] *kingoffrance has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:11] Ariadne i don't think there is a "monetization plan" [22:11] CrystalMath i like this new post: https://freenode.net/news/trojan-horse [22:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | On Apple, Trojan Horses and Truth - freenode [22:11] Ariadne why [22:11] schestowitz-TR lol does the app run ios? [22:11] schestowitz-TR or android? [22:11] Ariadne hmm great question [22:11] schestowitz-TR if so, back doors [22:11] schestowitz-TR "shhhhiiiiit" [22:12] Ariadne if app is on ios [22:12] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: apple is now no longer welcome [22:12] Ariadne will he remove it [22:12] schestowitz-TR "i can't use this shit now" [22:12] MinceR what did you expect of "hacker" "news"? [22:12] MinceR it's a pro-systemd echo chamber [22:12] Ariadne CrystalMath: i mean, on one hand, fuck apple OS [22:12] Ariadne on the other hand [22:12] schestowitz-TR MinceR: pro-IBM [22:12] Ariadne the M1 is the fastest ARM CPU on the market that is mobile-oriented and can boot unsigned code [22:12] schestowitz-TR they censored my articles about IBM after loads of IBM employees demanded action in comments [22:12] CrystalMath Ariadne: so what? [22:12] Ariadne i wish more will make ARM laptops :) [22:12] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Oh hey, another person that decided that they liked it while having read only a third of it. [22:13] Ariadne also, that article is just unhinged nonsense [22:13] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: I use one now [22:13] schestowitz-TR gnome3 [22:13] schestowitz-TR arm64 [22:13] *tr_guest|91914 (~519aac55@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [22:13] *x_ (~x__@4mmu4fx6g3jvs.irc) has joined #techrights [22:13] Ariadne schestowitz-TR: yes, but the "competition" is like cortex-a76 at best if it's modified chromebook [22:14] Ariadne M1 spanks the crap out of my a76 chromebooks [22:14] CrystalMath XRevan86: what did i miss? [22:14] Ariadne i look forward to marcan finishing up the remaining drivers [22:14] Ariadne the machine will be a beast [22:14] XRevan86 CrystalMath: The vaccines cause mutation bit for one thing. [22:15] Ariadne cortex-a76 is not bad, but [22:15] Ariadne m1 is a lot more performant [22:15] Ariadne once linux is actually usable on it, it's gonna be good [22:15] CrystalMath XRevan86: oh heh i did miss it [22:15] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: we need to give no money to Apple [22:16] schestowitz-TR they do a lot of harm across many sectors (not just Apple) [22:16] Ariadne schestowitz-TR: yes, i agree, but that requires some work in the mid term [22:16] activelow aren't those out-of-order execution pipelened CPUs? [22:16] schestowitz-TR otho, I support giving money to system76 [22:16] Ariadne i am working on it [22:16] activelow sure, faster, and poewr hungry [22:16] *tr_guest|91914 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:16] MinceR not sure what good is an M1 if a) it won't let you run the code you want and b) it comes with absolutely shitty hardware like a screen that cracks if you look at it [22:16] Ariadne MinceR: M1 runs the code i want [22:16] Ariadne it will happily boot unsigned code [22:16] MinceR and it's not like the cupertino mafia will let competent people build a computer around it, ever [22:16] Ariadne unfortunately, linux still needs drivers to support the SoC [22:16] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: for NOW [22:16] Ariadne but those are coming [22:16] CrystalMath XRevan86: the rest of it is okay though :P [22:17] schestowitz-TR the company that controls it with NDAs and patent a "history"... [22:17] XRevan86 CrystalMath: The rest of it I have trouble understanding, so I'll leave it to people who know the context better. [22:17] MinceR they locked Linux out with a "security" chip before, so they'll do it again :> [22:17] Ariadne schestowitz-TR: anyway, i would love for system76 to make an ARM laptop [22:17] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: how many devs got burned by apple when they leapt between archs already? [22:17] schestowitz-TR power, intel, m1 [22:17] Ariadne who cares [22:17] schestowitz-TR hopping like rabbits for dead jobs and tim crook [22:18] schestowitz-TR and they use them [22:18] schestowitz-TR they farm their time [22:18] Ariadne i just bought this thing for reverse engineering purposes [22:18] schestowitz-TR to sell shitty gadgets for x10 production cost [22:18] schestowitz-TR while paying cents to workers who inhale toxins [22:18] schestowitz-TR [22:17] who cares [22:18] schestowitz-TR those who look ahead [22:18] schestowitz-TR m1 is suicide [22:18] schestowitz-TR for a dev to rely on [22:18] Ariadne anybody who looks ahead is not developing for an apple ecosystem anyway [22:18] schestowitz-TR it's controlled by one very notorious company [22:19] activelow what is the TDP of this chip? [22:19] Ariadne activelow: like, 5w [22:19] Ariadne it is fanless [22:19] schestowitz-TR I'm no fan [22:19] schestowitz-TR so I agree [22:19] Ariadne my chromebook with cortex-a76 [22:19] Ariadne is also fanless [22:19] schestowitz-TR MinceR is no fan either [22:19] schestowitz-TR many apple fans are fictional [22:19] Ariadne btw [22:20] Ariadne a system76 laptop based on arm or riscv is not impossible [22:20] schestowitz-TR like celebs bribed to line up in queues for photo ops [22:20] schestowitz-TR unethical marketing emulated later by trump [22:20] Ariadne the guy who owns system76 is quite interested [22:20] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: cool! [22:20] schestowitz-TR i was gonna mention that [22:20] schestowitz-TR because they used x86 [22:20] Ariadne and mediatek makes an SoC that is quite competitive performance-wise to M1 [22:20] Ariadne in terms of TDP [22:20] Ariadne and also speed [22:20] schestowitz-TR and I thought, buying system76 gives money to companies of me/pp [22:20] schestowitz-TR ps [22:21] schestowitz-TR ps [22:21] schestowitz-TR ps [22:21] schestowitz-TR psp [22:21] schestowitz-TR wth? [22:21] schestowitz-TR this keyboard is breaking [22:21] Ariadne well, arm has the secure enclave [22:21] schestowitz-TR risc-v lets us remove bad things [22:21] Ariadne but in practice, it is not really integrated into the architecture [22:21] Ariadne it's just like [22:21] schestowitz-TR india and china base new designs on the isa [22:21] Ariadne there [22:21] Ariadne if youw ant to use it [22:22] schestowitz-TR no need for trucks to drop cargo with cpus [22:22] MinceR 06 231734 < Ariadne> schestowitz-TR: anyway, i would love for system76 to make an ARM laptop [22:22] MinceR crApple won't sell system76 any SoCs [22:22] Ariadne ARM is the best choice if you want freedom right now, but also fast performance [22:22] Ariadne MinceR: we can get from mediatek [22:22] schestowitz-TR arm laptops MIGHT even be able to run FIREFOX [22:23] schestowitz-TR the browser that opens 20k-50k files on your system [22:23] MinceR also, it probably still comes with TrustZone [22:23] MinceR (the Don't Trust Zone, i guess) [22:23] techrights-news Links 6/8/2021: GNOMEs New Human Interface Guidelines and KDEs GSoC Progress http://techrights.org/2021/08/06/gnome-hig/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/06/gnome-hig/ [22:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/8/2021: GNOMEs New Human Interface Guidelines and KDEs GSoC Progress | Techrights [22:23] schestowitz-TR MinceR: don't trust things that self-describe as "trust" [22:23] schestowitz-TR like you would not trust someone shouting "THE TRUTH" [22:24] activelow reminder, the Allwinner a64 laptop 11inch shipped for $99, quardcore a53 1,2GHz, liberated u-boot, and full linux support [22:24] schestowitz-TR trust is earned, not advertised [22:24] Ariadne MinceR: trustzone (secure enclave) is not really problematic, the source code to it is public, and you can supply your own image on most boards [22:25] Ariadne trustzone is only problematic on SoCs where it is burned into ROM [22:25] CrystalMath Ariadne: okay but why not RISC-V? [22:25] Ariadne mtk8192 does not even have it [22:25] schestowitz ot: https://www.csis.org/analysis/resolved-japan-ready-become-formal-member-five-eyes [22:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.csis.org | RESOLVED: Japan Is Ready to Become a Formal Member of Five Eyes | Center for Strategic and International Studies [22:25] Ariadne CrystalMath: wheres the SoCs? [22:25] schestowitz riscv [22:25] schestowitz and arm [22:25] MinceR Ariadne: i see [22:25] schestowitz but risvc is still US [22:25] MinceR i thought SiFive was making RISC-V SoCs already [22:25] schestowitz when more nations fork it, then it might become more trustworthy... more eyes on the designs [22:25] Ariadne mtk8192 is basically clone of M1 [22:25] Ariadne MinceR: yes, slow ones [22:25] Ariadne with nvidia gpus :) [22:26] Ariadne so much for freedom [22:26] activelow and price: the apple m1 is 10x (+1000%) the price of the allwinner a64 [22:26] Ariadne the allwinner a64 is a garbage chip [22:27] Ariadne so, yes, $99 is a great price for it [22:27] Ariadne because it's worth about $99 [22:27] activelow $99 for the entire laptop [22:27] Ariadne yes [22:27] Ariadne for $99 it is not bad, but you have to keep in mind that it is a $99 laptop [22:27] Ariadne i have a pinebook [22:27] Ariadne it is slow [22:27] Ariadne very slow [22:27] activelow the software is slow [22:27] Ariadne the chip is slow, too [22:27] Ariadne 1.2ghz is slow [22:28] Ariadne and it's an a55 [22:28] activelow using some rk3328, cannot complain [22:28] Ariadne no, for $99 it is not bad [22:28] Ariadne but, i need more than what a $99 laptop can provide [22:28] schestowitz-TR [22:27] i have a pinebook [22:29] schestowitz-TR not for heavy gui I hope [22:29] Ariadne not for anything [22:29] Ariadne i don't use it [22:29] Ariadne do you want it? [22:29] Ariadne i'll mail it to you [22:29] activelow yes [22:29] activelow :) [22:29] schestowitz-TR my arm laptop cost 159 in argos 4-5 years ago [22:29] Ariadne the M1 is a really weird SoC [22:29] Ariadne it uses 16KB pages [22:30] Ariadne despite only having 8 or 16GB of on-board RAM [22:30] schestowitz-TR 'only' [22:30] schestowitz-TR all our computers, except one, have 2gb of ram [22:30] Ariadne both of those are handled just fine by normal 4KB page size [22:30] Ariadne you should use alpine on them, alpine is optimized for such machines :) [22:31] Ariadne anyway, [22:31] activelow maybe the databus is multiplexed for higher data rates, such as 4x4KB fetched at once for 4x the date rate [22:31] Ariadne yes, probably [22:31] activelow that is my complaint about with the cortex a53 here, limited memory data rate, which the GPU suffers from too [22:32] Ariadne i would not want to be a driver author though, it means on macOS, you have to write drivers which support 4KB and 16KB page size [22:32] Ariadne anyway, riscv is where we really want to be [22:33] Ariadne but there is only the SiFive SoCs out [22:33] Ariadne and from a performance / cost angle [22:33] Ariadne they are not really competitive yet [22:33] techrights-news Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 3.4 beta 3 https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-3-4-beta-3 #godotengine #deletegithub #programming #games [22:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-godotengine.org | Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 3.4 beta 3 [22:33] Ariadne Chinese company StarFive has an SoC that is comparable to cortex a72 [22:33] Ariadne which gets into the realm of competitive [22:34] Ariadne but right now it's only on a raspberry pi type board [22:34] Ariadne maybe i will teach myself some electrical engineering and build a riscv laptop ;) [22:34] techrights-news 11 Unanswered Questions about the #SteamDeck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZt-ZB9ganA #gnu #linux #archlinux #games [22:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-11 Unanswered Questions about the Steam Deck - YouTube [22:34] activelow if i can avoid it i wouldn't touch any out-of-order pipelened CPU, and the heterogenous SMP is a weird design choice too [22:34] Ariadne pipelined CPUs are fine [22:35] Ariadne as long as they check speculation results correctly [22:35] Ariadne speculation is hard, but not impossible [22:35] activelow they're faster, yes [22:36] activelow since i compared a53 to a72 performance i think the a53 are mostly limited by their low memory date rate [22:37] XRevan86 https://i.postimg.cc/7ZWykZpN/freenode-tragedy.jpg [22:37] techrights-news PCLinuxOS Updates: blender, syncthing, teamviewer, vivaldi http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151867#comment-30482 [22:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS: Latest Package Updates, Magazine, and Screenshots | Tux Machines [22:39] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: yes, seems fitting [22:39] schestowitz-TR there seem to be signs that it was inevitable [22:40] schestowitz-TR his own actions would have alienated reasonable people, like misusing the domain freenode.org to spread BS about vaccines [22:41] XRevan86 schestowitz: HIH Andrew Lee of Joseon and freenode [22:41] Ariadne what does HIH mean [22:41] XRevan86 Ariadne: "His Imperial Highness" [22:41] Ariadne i see [22:42] XRevan86 Ariadne: He also used words "God given" to refer to his title. [22:42] Ariadne amazing [22:42] Ariadne anyways, [22:46] activelow just noticed, his highness published a new article on his website [22:46] XRevan86 activelow: We've discussed it already. [22:47] *x_ is now known as kingoffrance [22:48] schestowitz-TR they have a web site [22:48] schestowitz-TR imperial family [22:48] schestowitz-TR which includes shells [22:48] schestowitz-TR I notice that sells have been shelling out money to youtube "influencers" (vloggers) [22:48] XRevan86 I like his writing style, it's very https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BalconySpeech [22:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tvtropes.org | Balcony Speech - TV Tropes [22:49] activelow "on behalf of the free world" [22:49] schestowitz-TR so they shill his stuff like the media did esp. last year and in 2019 [22:49] CrystalMath anyway, since hacker news is so broken [22:49] CrystalMath i wonder if we could just flag everything [22:49] CrystalMath and write a bot that just takes it down [22:49] CrystalMath by flagging everything [22:49] CrystalMath since there's no way to appeal [22:49] schestowitz-TR it's all mysterious [22:49] schestowitz-TR no reasons provided [22:49] schestowitz-TR just "flagged" [22:50] CrystalMath can i see the techrights post that was flagged? [22:50] schestowitz-TR means "removed by editor" [22:50] schestowitz-TR without justification [22:50] CrystalMath so there is a human involved? [22:50] schestowitz-TR https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28077963 [22:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | Firefox Cannot Be Trusted at the Hands of Todays Mozilla Management | Hacker News [22:50] CrystalMath i thought people just press a button and posts disappear [22:51] schestowitz https://imperialfamily.com/ [22:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-imperialfamily.com | Imperial Family Companies [22:51] schestowitz photo of throne [22:51] schestowitz mentions shells [22:51] schestowitz-TR press "TECHNOLOGY" [22:52] schestowitz-TR "Freenode" and "Shells" only [22:52] schestowitz-TR I wonder if Shell has 10k users [22:52] schestowitz-TR *Shells [22:52] schestowitz-TR does mention irc.com [22:52] schestowitz-TR under "INVESTMENTS" [22:53] schestowitz https://klb.co.jp/ [22:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-klb.co.jp | NO TITLE [22:53] schestowitz "Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead" [22:53] schestowitz-TR also mentions Karpeles Labs" [22:53] schestowitz-TR after what happened to mt gox [22:53] schestowitz-TR *gox [22:54] schestowitz https://private.sh/ [22:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Private.sh - the search engine that cryptographically protects your privacy [22:54] schestowitz he asked me to have a go at it [22:54] schestowitz but said results were disappointing so far [22:54] schestowitz-TR clearly, I think, ego is his own worst enemy [22:54] schestowitz-TR he could keep irc/freenode running under tomaw [22:55] schestowitz-TR at least avert the controversy and loss of users [22:55] schestowitz-TR he would be vastly better off, financially too [22:55] activelow i didn't register with libera [22:55] schestowitz-TR ego issues are self-harming [22:55] XRevan86 schestowitz: When rasengan called prawnsalad, tomaw should've called a psychologist. [22:55] schestowitz-TR I have one distance cousin with that issue [22:56] CrystalMath XRevan86: tomaw was never the owner of freenode [22:56] schestowitz-TR he was not [22:56] schestowitz-TR it was volunteer-run [22:56] CrystalMath and i don't see by what crazy logic should he have any access to the domains [22:56] XRevan86 CrystalMath: He was a head of staff. [22:56] schestowitz-TR "staff" [22:56] schestowitz-TR which mostly worked ok [22:56] CrystalMath XRevan86: no he wasn't, christel was the head of staff [22:56] activelow he wiped the database, disabled the hidden service, blocked onion exits. the registering a test-account on irc.com was denied with a valid @live.com mail account [22:56] schestowitz-TR for our communities it worked [22:56] CrystalMath activelow: the hidden service is down? [22:56] XRevan86 CrystalMath: He was appointed by staff to be head of staff. [22:57] activelow CrystalMath: last time i tried freenode hidden service was gone [22:57] XRevan86 CrystalMath: This is some government-lead unions kind of logic ye have there. [22:57] XRevan86 * led [22:57] CrystalMath XRevan86: he was not appointed by the head of staff (christel) to be the head of staff :P [22:57] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Who appointed christel as head of staff? [22:57] CrystalMath christel was the owner of freenode [22:57] CrystalMath freenode was always privately known, for every second of its existence [22:58] CrystalMath err, privately owned [22:58] schestowitz Alex and Andrew also list this: https://www.provocateurny.com/ [22:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.provocateurny.com | Provocateur NY [22:58] CrystalMath the heck is with my brain today [22:58] schestowitz under HOSPITALITY, I am examining it... [22:58] XRevan86 CrystalMath: No, she was head of staff, which due to simplisticity of organisation, gave her ownership. [22:58] CrystalMath XRevan86: that is false, she *owned* freenode after the PDPC Texas [22:58] CrystalMath and she founded PDPC London [22:58] CrystalMath freenode was never public property [22:58] CrystalMath at no moment in time [22:58] XRevan86 Sure, let's talk about the commercial entities as if they have always been the freenode. [22:59] CrystalMath freenode has always been privately owned, that's a fact [22:59] schestowitz is my browser crazy, or is this just an image in a page and nothing else? https://www.provocateurny.com/ [22:59] CrystalMath even OFTC is privately owned, but by a more stable organization [22:59] CrystalMath the PDPC was not stable [22:59] CrystalMath and it failed in 2013 [22:59] XRevan86 CrystalMath: So what? The backbone of that organisation was a collective agreement by staff. ● Aug 06 [23:00] schestowitz does everything need to be run like a company? [23:00] CrystalMath XRevan86: the staff changed numerous times [23:00] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Then that commercial organisation suddenly said "wait, no, actually, I'm in charge", and everything changed. [23:00] CrystalMath XRevan86: no, the commercial organization was always in charge, because christel made these people staff [23:00] CrystalMath and previously changed staff at will [23:00] XRevan86 CrystalMath: As head of staff. [23:01] schestowitz "Coming Soon." https://www.provocateurny.com/provocateur-new-york [23:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.provocateurny.com | Provocateur New York Provocateur NY [23:01] CrystalMath as the owner of freenode, and head of staff [23:01] CrystalMath she was never "elected" head of staff [23:01] CrystalMath in fact, PDPC Texas elected someone else [23:01] schestowitz it's hard to see heading at the top, really awful contrast, maybe even intentionally, as nothing in these pages [23:01] CrystalMath but through some documents she got it under her name [23:01] MinceR that organization based on "a collective agreement by staff" was sold, apparently without collective agreement of staff [23:01] MinceR curious [23:01] CrystalMath MinceR: because it was not a collective of staff! [23:01] CrystalMath it was a private organization [23:02] CrystalMath owned by Christel Dahlskjaer [23:02] schestowitz https://www.provocateurny.com/shows [23:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.provocateurny.com | Off-Site Events Provocateur NY [23:02] schestowitz CrystalMath: is that a Nardos surname? [23:02] schestowitz or Nordic? [23:03] MinceR Nard-Os? [23:03] CrystalMath could be dutch maybe [23:03] CrystalMath or flemish [23:03] CrystalMath that's how i pronounce it, at least [23:03] CrystalMath the ae as a long a [23:03] CrystalMath the /a/ in father [23:03] CrystalMath but if she's not dutch then that's probably totally wrong :P [23:05] schestowitz her name always reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgp9I_K_WqU [23:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dijkstra's Algorithm - YouTube [23:05] XRevan86 MinceR: One could say that under their simple organisation her status as head of staff was agreement enough. [23:05] CrystalMath schestowitz: Dijkstra was dutch [23:05] schestowitz and they are all Dutch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dijkstra [23:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Dijkstra - Wikipedia [23:06] CrystalMath XRevan86: your narrative has no explanation for how christel became head of staff [23:06] schestowitz she did a good job running freenode until it was put in the wrong hands [23:06] CrystalMath because she was never elected [23:06] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 31.98 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 94.03 swarm size (avg): 279.03 [23:06] schestowitz she did not research properly who she had entrusted it with [23:06] CrystalMath in fact, PDPC Texas wanted someone else, but she proved she has *ownership* [23:06] CrystalMath and therefore it went to her [23:06] CrystalMath and it was never a decision of any collective [23:07] CrystalMath she waved papers from Rob Levin [23:07] schestowitz well, freenode did outlive lilo by a lot [23:07] schestowitz maybe 15 years [23:07] schestowitz time will tell... [23:07] CrystalMath Andrew Lee could still reverse all of this [23:07] schestowitz now his site is the raving of some man [23:07] *inky (~inky@188.115.238.26) has joined #techrights [23:07] CrystalMath he could even bring up freenode classic [23:08] schestowitz he would not [23:08] schestowitz it would not work either [23:08] schestowitz too late [23:08] schestowitz he goes down with the boat [23:08] CrystalMath he probably won't, but can you *really* say that you can predict what he will do? :P [23:08] XRevan86 CrystalMath: okay, I'll take your word for it, my narrative indeed has gaps as I don't know the history that long ago well enough. [23:08] schestowitz no, but I worry for him tbh [23:08] schestowitz loads of debt [23:08] XRevan86 CrystalMath: "Andrew Lee could still reverse all of this" are ye serious right now? [23:09] schestowitz and scorn online [23:09] CrystalMath XRevan86: well he technically could :P [23:09] CrystalMath i mean it's a few keypresses away [23:09] XRevan86 CrystalMath: That would lose freenode the last 10K of users [23:09] schestowitz he needs to remove access restrictions [23:09] schestowitz asap [23:09] CrystalMath he'd just need to tell the current infra people "hey let's bring back freenode classic as an alternative" [23:09] schestowitz so I can reconnect to freenode [23:09] schestowitz tell him in freenode:#freenode [23:10] activelow those 10k are irc.com domain, not freenode [23:10] schestowitz some people might still come back [23:10] schestowitz he already harvested a few thousands of accounts through irc.com [23:10] schestowitz now he can reopen the network he sort of 'hijacked' [23:10] CrystalMath are you sure this is about harvesting? [23:10] XRevan86 CrystalMath: And then everyone will be like "oh, how nice, let's ditch the already-established channels on working networks" and will flock into freenode classic [23:10] schestowitz So i can get back to the channels I RE-registered just 1.5 months ago [23:10] CrystalMath XRevan86: for nostalgia's sake! :P [23:11] schestowitz CrystalMath: the "spam" excuse is invalid [23:11] schestowitz tell him we're not that dumb [23:11] XRevan86 CrystalMath: It's something ye want, not something people want. [23:11] schestowitz remove the access restrictions [23:11] XRevan86 CrystalMath: That freenode classic will be occupied by you only. [23:11] schestowitz freenode is already too small to be worth spamming [23:12] CrystalMath XRevan86: i know one other person who would like that, and connect [23:12] CrystalMath so 2 [23:12] CrystalMath :P [23:12] schestowitz if it reopens access, we can at least use it as a fallback again [23:12] XRevan86 CrystalMath: wow, yea, now Andrew needs to consider it [23:12] CrystalMath XRevan86: i mean i don't really understand what he has to gain from any of it, so it wouldn't really do any harm :P [23:12] CrystalMath i mean he didn't have to start paying for freenode in 2013 [23:12] CrystalMath he didn't have to buy it in 2017 [23:13] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I mean, in the same sense he could just shutdown freenode and no one will flinch. [23:13] schestowitz-TR [23:13] [Info] Server found, connecting... [23:13] schestowitz-TR [23:13] [Error] Connection to server chat.freenode.net (port 6667) lost: Unknown error. [23:13] CrystalMath schestowitz: unknown error!? [23:13] XRevan86 schestowitz: And? TLS is required. [23:13] CrystalMath XRevan86: but the non-TLS ports are still open [23:14] XRevan86 CrystalMath: To notify? Makes sense, right. [23:14] schestowitz-TR CrystalMath: that changes every day/week [23:14] schestowitz-TR I've lost track [23:14] schestowitz-TR only 2 weeks ago they limited # of sim. connections [23:14] schestowitz-TR prior to it, random issues [23:15] schestowitz-TR like me having to specify plain IP addresses just to get it [23:15] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Still ye have to agree that restoring freenode classic is not going to improve the situation for freenode, in fact it could split the userbase in two. [23:15] schestowitz-TR technically it is a messy network [23:15] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: that limit doesn't apply to SASL i think [23:15] CrystalMath becuase it was a Z-line [23:15] schestowitz-TR freenode since May = waste of time!! [23:16] schestowitz-TR You think you're one step away from clam [23:16] schestowitz-TR *salm [23:16] schestowitz-TR *calm [23:16] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I don't know what would. Maybe if Andrew openly states that [23:16] schestowitz-TR and they then break the next thing [23:16] XRevan86 he starting taking meds or something. [23:16] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: don't say that though, we had no idea it would end this way, presumption of innocence is important [23:16] schestowitz-TR and the next... at some point you just need to quit bothering [23:17] CrystalMath i'm proud of techrights, not disappointed, for standing by freenode against cancel culture [23:17] schestowitz-TR at this stage it is not "cancel" [23:17] schestowitz-TR maybe it was months ago [23:17] CrystalMath it was though [23:17] schestowitz-TR now it's incompetence [23:17] CrystalMath yeah this is different [23:17] schestowitz-TR which to outsiders seems ill-intended, malice [23:17] CrystalMath these are legitimate claims [23:17] activelow if at least he updated freenode.net website and knowledgebase, instead of trolling apple [23:18] schestowitz-TR i got some unpleasant emails [23:18] schestowitz-TR from people who didn't like my May articles about freenoe [23:18] XRevan86 Footage of a post-May freenode user: https://youtu.be/2WZLJpMOxS4 [23:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sideshow bob stepping on rakes - YouTube [23:18] schestowitz-TR i also got some rude PMs from Lee's friends.. who wanted me to suck him to him. Because I was sceptical. [23:18] CrystalMath even if someone ends up proven guilty, it's important to presume innocence and not allow lynch mobs [23:18] XRevan86 (a reply to "don't say that though, we had no idea it would end this way, presumption of innocence is important") [23:19] CrystalMath a later message "see we were right" from the lynch mob is NOT correct, they were still wrong when they were a mob attacking someone without evidence [23:20] CrystalMath they would have done so even if they were wrong [23:20] techrights-news #freenode https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2WZLJpMOxS4 h/t XRevan [23:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Sideshow bob stepping on rakes - Invidious [23:20] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Is it correct to tie that mob to everyone who ditched freenode at the early stage? [23:20] CrystalMath and they never give anyone the courtesy of an apology [23:20] CrystalMath XRevan86: well maybe not everyone [23:20] CrystalMath i know one person who left because he hates InspIRCd [23:20] CrystalMath not because he believed some bullcrap [23:21] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Not sucking up to a person is not cancelling them. [23:21] schestowitz-TR wrong [23:21] XRevan86 it is? [23:21] CrystalMath everyone who left but not for illibera (at least a few thousand went to OFTC, even other networks) [23:21] schestowitz-TR this is not what happened [23:21] schestowitz-TR they didn't leave for this reason [23:21] schestowitz-TR a post-mortem of this does matter [23:22] schestowitz-TR before revisionist write that off as something like "netscape killed itself" [23:22] schestowitz-TR freenode >does< self-harm at the moment [23:22] schestowitz-TR but it did not start out this way [23:22] XRevan86 Different waves had a different set of reasons to leave. But if ye're looking at the earliest wave, even those people mostly had no idea who Andrew Lee even is. They just saw the actions as wrong. [23:22] schestowitz-TR openoffice/libreoffice has commonalities [23:22] schestowitz-TR openoffice is poorly maintained [23:23] schestowitz-TR and it was perceived to be of no interest to oracle [23:23] Ariadne CrystalMath: i presented plenty of evidence [23:23] XRevan86 or rather, the later in time, the more understanding people have about Andrew Lee [23:23] CrystalMath Ariadne: but for what? [23:24] CrystalMath Ariadne: a "corporate takeover"? [23:24] CrystalMath you said you agree with most of lee-side.pdf [23:24] Ariadne the likelihood that andrew lee's freenode would not be a conducive environment for free software projects [23:24] techrights-news #Bluestar 5.13.8 is out. #gnu #linux distro. https://sourceforge.net/projects/bluestarlinux/ [23:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BluestarLinux download | SourceForge.net [23:24] Ariadne just because i think christel sold andrew lee a bag of goods did not mean i thought he would competently manage freenode [23:24] Ariadne i knew better :) [23:25] CrystalMath well i still believe that the politics freenode writes on the blog now are better for free software [23:25] CrystalMath than the politics illibera represents [23:25] CrystalMath i think free software needs to ditch all the communist aspects, and believe in the freedom of the individual computer user, not the dictatorship of the proletariat of programmers [23:26] techrights-news #fedora is the next #freenode and #ibm the other (bigger) Andrew Lee, not knowing how to deal with communities, which it drives away https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2021-31/ [23:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Friday's Fedora Facts: 2021-31 Fedora Community Blog [23:26] CrystalMath Ariadne: i picked a side based on this [23:26] CrystalMath basically [23:26] XRevan86 CrystalMath: That's some impressive understanding of Communism. [23:26] Ariadne if you think the politics freenode writes on its blog are good for free software, you need to think about why you think that [23:27] Ariadne because most of what lee is posting is unhinged nonsense [23:27] Ariadne you see the 10000' view without looking at the actual words [23:28] CrystalMath Ariadne: well i don't know, like today he wrote one strange thing about vaccines altering DNA, i suppose some of them have a structure that resembles DNA-altering tools (AZ, Sputnik-V), but that's about the only connection [23:28] schestowitz one upside is, freenode demonstrated the importance of not relying on third parties [23:29] CrystalMath the rest of the article was pretty good [23:29] schestowitz even a year ago we spoke about it here [23:29] CrystalMath Ariadne: like what would you call nonsense in the "On Free Speech" post? [23:29] CrystalMath i think that post was perfect [23:29] schestowitz that post does not belong on freenode.org [23:29] schestowitz I post my own views in schestowitz.com/Weblog [23:30] schestowitz "root" seems to be misusing the site for delusions of grandeur [23:30] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: i understand that this is the new purpose of freenode itself [23:30] XRevan86 CrystalMath: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-latest-antivax-false-claim-mrna-vaccines-against-covid-19-are-not-vaccines-but-medical-devices-or-gene-therapy/ didn't read this article, but it appears to show the point even just in the title. [23:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sciencebasedmedicine.org | The latest antivax false claim: mRNA vaccines against COVID-19 are not vaccines but medical devices or gene therapy | Science-Based Medicine [23:30] XRevan86 if it's questionable (no idea whatsoever), just find another one [23:30] schestowitz XRevan86: it doesn't harm your 5g reception :-) [23:31] Ariadne half the links in "On Free Speech" are literally fake news [23:31] CrystalMath XRevan86: well not mRNA, there are cDNA vaccines like AZ / Sputnik-V, which is exactly how you'd go about making a gene altering sequence using CRISPR/Cas9, but of course that doesn't mean it's the same thing, just that you can build both with the same technology [23:31] XRevan86 CrystalMath: The hoax is about mRNA still. [23:32] Ariadne half the post is complaining about people who criticize rasengan (joepie91) [23:32] CrystalMath Ariadne: i hate joepie91 too [23:32] Ariadne he claims to have a personal relationship with POTUS, which he does not [23:32] CrystalMath and i use his posts to get people to hate illibera [23:32] techrights-news "Katherine Druckman and Doc Searls talk to Shawn Powers and Petros Koutoupis about how we make our personal spaces better for work and play." Former #linuxjournal staff. https://www.reality2cast.com/81 [23:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reality2cast.com | Reality 2.0 Episode 81: Geeks at Home: The Gear That Makes Us Happy [23:32] CrystalMath Ariadne: the "my friend" part? [23:32] Ariadne you're allowed to hate who you want, but supporting somebody simply because they hate the same people you hate is folly [23:33] Ariadne the prince who said 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' was later killed by his 'friend' btw [23:33] schestowitz-TR too many "enemies" [23:33] schestowitz-TR too few facts [23:34] kingoffrance ^ [23:34] schestowitz-TR triobalism leads to it [23:34] XRevan86 CrystalMath: That darn Libera and this joepie91 that has no connection to it other than writing that infamous FAQ post. [23:34] schestowitz-TR social control media rewards tribalism [23:34] schestowitz-TR and groupthink [23:34] Ariadne like, i'm sorry but everything rasengan posts only sounds "good" for free software if you have either been self-radicalized to agree with alt-right viewpoints, or you're not really reading what he is saying [23:34] schestowitz-TR people afraid of losing "followers" [23:35] schestowitz-TR do they never deviate from some "allowed" sermon [23:35] XRevan86 How could Libera do such a thing that they have nothing to do with? [23:35] Ariadne the truth is that he is a charlatan [23:35] XRevan86 CrystalMath: So how does that help people hate Libera again? [23:35] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: it is not alt-right but something else [23:36] schestowitz-TR there are overlaps here and there [23:36] CrystalMath Ariadne: what i believe is good for free software, is standing up for freedom of speech, the freedom to make decisions for yourself, etc... [23:36] schestowitz-TR this is again an oversimplication in a binary venn diagram [23:36] schestowitz-TR either "my friend" or "my enemies" [23:36] schestowitz-TR and people refusing to listen [23:36] Ariadne it is possible to stand up for self autonomy without supporting freenode [23:36] schestowitz-TR I blame the Net for making it worse than ever [23:36] MinceR CrystalMath: if i wanted to create a virus that modifies human DNA in a certain way, i'd pick a virus that has the mechanism to do that -- that is, something like a retrovirus, not an adenovirus [23:36] CrystalMath Ariadne: also i don't know if someone alt-right would call Biden a friend? [23:37] CrystalMath i thought they hated him [23:37] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I'm also curious in how many of those new haters stayed in IRC after that. [23:37] Ariadne freenode claims 'self autonomy' for itself, when in reality, freenode is run by charlatan which brought upon everything himself [23:37] schestowitz-TR Net (Internet) less so than radicalising echo chambers like social control media [23:37] schestowitz-TR where groups and owners manipulate people [23:37] schestowitz-TR and form cults [23:37] CrystalMath XRevan86: all of these are on EFNet now [23:37] schestowitz-TR cults are notoriopus for their tactics of rejecting facts [23:37] schestowitz-TR by psychological torture [23:37] Ariadne CrystalMath: because he's cuckoo for cocoa puffs, he's just writing random shite [23:38] CrystalMath XRevan86: i showed the link between joepie91 and libera (tremendous support) [23:38] CrystalMath and joepie91's intolerance towards other viewpoints [23:38] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Ah, right, schestowitz is associated with freenode in the same way. Sounds legitimate. [23:38] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: it could be partly caused by the mass rejection [23:38] schestowitz-TR from perceived "liberals [23:39] schestowitz-TR this worsens things [23:39] Ariadne dunno, don't care [23:39] schestowitz-TR and then you have "ex liberals" [23:39] schestowitz-TR who are attacked by their own or target fence sitters [23:39] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: we should care [23:39] XRevan86 CrystalMath: "and joepie91's intolerance towards other viewpoints" hahahaha [23:39] schestowitz-TR as we do a lousy job at it otherwise [23:39] schestowitz-TR and we get divided over BS [23:39] schestowitz-TR then the winners are the dividers [23:39] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Is he a yang to your yin? :D [23:39] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Now kiss. [23:40] schestowitz-TR mass bannings makes us china [23:40] schestowitz-TR we need to carefully find an approac [23:40] Ariadne i predicted everything that has happened would [23:40] schestowitz-TR to target the Big Issues [23:41] Ariadne before libera even existed [23:41] schestowitz-TR the biggest issues in tech aren't reducible to political wings [23:41] schestowitz-TR RMS recognised this decades ago [23:41] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: it was inevitable [23:41] Ariadne but if you like chatting on an IRC run by a grifting charlatan, go for it [23:41] Ariadne i don't judge :) [23:41] schestowitz-TR does not take genius to foresee freenode going the way of nntp [23:42] Ariadne nope, just familiarity with the people involved [23:42] Ariadne :P [23:42] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: it's not suitable for use anymore as it annuls anon access [23:42] schestowitz-TR like I mentioned over the past 1.5 weeks [23:42] XRevan86 schestowitz: Ariadne says that because she knows the actors, she knew the outcome. [23:42] schestowitz-TR it also self-contradicts the message of freenode re privayc [23:42] CrystalMath the behavior that i want to purge from free software is cs1901's in this log: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/~h~yamahasynths/2021-07-30 [23:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libera.irclog.whitequark.org | ##yamahasynths on 2021-07-30 irc logs at whitequark.org [23:43] schestowitz-TR they need to drop clownflare while at it [23:43] schestowitz-TR using a web page to register means far more advanced spying [23:43] schestowitz https://stallmansupport.org/nadine-strossen-hannah-wolfman-rebut-accusations-against-stallman.html [23:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallmansupport.org | In Support of Richard Stallman - Hannah Wolfman-Jones and Nadine Strossen Rebut Accusations Against Stallman - Choose Him as Coauthor [23:43] schestowitz "I find it so odd that the strong zeal for revenge and punishment if someone says anything that is perceived to be sexist or racist or discriminatory comes from liberals and progressives! There are so many violations [in cases like Stallmans] of such fundamental principles to which progressives and liberals cling in general as to what is justice, what is fairness, what is due process." [23:44] schestowitz "Progressives are right now advocating for the release of criminals, even murderers. To then have exactly the opposite attitude towards something that certainly is not committing physical violence against somebody, I dont understand the double standard!" [23:44] schestowitz She nails it [23:44] schestowitz we need to be consistent [23:44] schestowitz and we do a lousy job at it as long as we sub-divide too much [23:44] CrystalMath schestowitz: and make it consistent in the right way (forgiving all, not none :P) [23:44] schestowitz like OSI attacking FSF [23:44] schestowitz and 'FSF' 'E' attacking FSF [23:44] schestowitz they pretend to be for progress and diversity [23:45] Ariadne why even attack FSF [23:45] schestowitz while attacking "that JEW" from FSF [23:45] schestowitz go cry me a river [23:45] schestowitz (to OSI) [23:45] Ariadne i rather solve my complaints with free software by producing better free software [23:45] Ariadne see also: alpine [23:45] schestowitz so they basically reveal theikr agenda now boils down to mone [23:45] schestowitz OSI is not even run by its originators anymore [23:46] schestowitz Tiemann, ESR, Perens [23:46] schestowitz they would have reconciled [23:46] schestowitz unlike the Microsoft, IBM, and Google shills [23:46] Ariadne i don't think there was going to be any reconciliation with ESR [23:46] Ariadne he threatened to shoot the other two [23:46] schestowitz they don't mind destroying what they never made in the first place [23:46] Ariadne https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1999/04/msg00197.html [23:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org | email threat [23:47] schestowitz does it say shoot? [23:47] schestowitz sounds like a threat [23:47] schestowitz but there are many forms of retaliation [23:47] XRevan86 > There's an RMS support letter that ppl were signing saying basically "fuck women, RMS' technical contributions take priority" [23:48] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Nice lad. [23:48] schestowitz unless there is more context, esr threatens to shoot nobody [23:48] schestowitz and with some context we might also know the motivation [23:49] CrystalMath XRevan86: cs1901 is a piece of garbage, and btw, i was the one who nagged CatButts to sign the support letter, and also convinced him CookieEngineer is a liar [23:49] schestowitz I totally get why people dislike ESR [23:49] schestowitz I'm no friend either [23:49] Ariadne i'm just saying, reconcilation with somebody who sends out email threats like that [23:49] Ariadne is not likely [23:49] schestowitz true [23:50] schestowitz [23:46] he threatened to shoot the other two [23:50] schestowitz maybe I lack context [23:50] schestowitz I see no evidence of threat of violance [23:50] Ariadne i mean, i have no idea what it was about, but [23:50] Ariadne in the email [23:50] Ariadne last paragraph [23:50] Ariadne thats a threat [23:50] schestowitz other than attempts to connect that to his 2am. posts [23:50] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Any evidence of his being a liar? [23:50] schestowitz Ariadne: could be him divulging embarrassing emails [23:50] schestowitz some people did this to me [23:51] schestowitz gnome foundation shills [23:51] CrystalMath XRevan86: i presented the unlikelyhood of CookieEngineer's crazy story [23:51] Ariadne who is cookieengineer [23:51] CrystalMath Ariadne: the creator of tenacity [23:51] Ariadne oh, that bullshit [23:52] schestowitz cookieengineer is an awful nickname for someone looking to remove telemetry [23:52] *Ariadne shrugs [23:52] CrystalMath schestowitz: lol [23:52] schestowitz the word cookie (YUM!) got associated with oppression [23:52] schestowitz gemini does not do cookies [23:52] XRevan86 https://github.com/tenacityteam/tenacity/issues/99 this [23:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stepdown as Maintainer of this Fork Issue #99 tenacityteam/tenacity GitHub [23:52] schestowitz gemini does not add things that would likely to result in repetition of mistakes (www) [23:53] schestowitz [14:53] "The Small Web isnt about going back to the days of GeoCities. Its about going forward differently, using modern tech in a non-colonial manner." https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/106680277900274823 [23:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "The Small Web isnt about going back to the days " - Arals Mastodon [23:53] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Ye do realise that ye're in Serbia and he's in California? [23:53] schestowitz XRevan86: we still need a mirroring site for shithub, like nitter or yewtu.be etc. [23:53] CrystalMath XRevan86: no i didn't realize he's in california [23:54] schestowitz many timezones apart [23:54] schestowitz 5 mins to midnight here... [23:55] XRevan86 > i presented the unlikelyhood of CookieEngineer's crazy story [23:55] XRevan86 I refer to this. [23:55] schestowitz does CookieEngineer have a real name? [23:56] XRevan86 cookiengineer lives in California and doesn't hide his identity. [23:56] XRevan86 schestowitz: Christoph Martens appears to be his name. [23:56] schestowitz On the shithub, nobody knows you're a dog until you fart [23:57] CrystalMath XRevan86: ah, another dutchie :) [23:58] Ariadne i mean [23:58] Ariadne i'm a cookie engineer too [23:58] CrystalMath i don't really care about sneedacity [23:58] *Ariadne pulls out the oven [23:58] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Something along those lines definitely. [23:58] CrystalMath i just use audacity [23:59] CrystalMath ./configure --without-telemetry --no-phone-home [23:59] schestowitz few people eat fresh cookies these days. They eat them off of plastic packaging with preservatives and heavily processed "Stuff" [23:59] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Knowing his location and how available he's made his information be, is the story so strange? [23:59] schestowitz rianne has a cookies cookbook from a friend [23:59] CrystalMath XRevan86: there seem to be no 4chan posts detailing the event, and why would anyone do it, anyway? [23:59] XRevan86 is it so unlikely that 4chan rallied up some folks and there was plenty around his area? [23:59] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:59] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving)