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[00:09]	activelow	i remember the days when some favorite tv series, star trek and x-files, were available on VHS video cassettes only, very expensive.
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR	now you can only "stream'
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR	i.e. watch once
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR	so it's bad value for money
[00:10]	activelow	so i watched them on TV instead, and how did I HATE the commercials in between, when the broadcasters pushed the "loudness war" to maximum with them.
[00:10]	schestowitz-TR	TV is still mostly noise
[00:10]	schestowitz-TR	I avoid it for over 20 years now
[00:10]	XRevan86	I remember the days when some favourite tv series, and , were available on VHS video cassettes only, very cheap and with a single-voice voiceover.
[00:10]	schestowitz-TR	www became similar
[00:10]	schestowitz-TR	but on the www there are more workarounds
[00:10]	activelow	schestowitz-TR: the "loudness war" alone often is reason enough to reject all claims from the music industry, when their productions are not BS1770 or EBU compliant
[00:11]	schestowitz-TR	as PCs are more programmable and customisable than TVs
[00:11]	activelow	most of what the music industry is selling is a threat to public health
[00:12]	schestowitz-TR	star trek next gen had nice ambiance to it
[00:12]	schestowitz-TR	also long, so a good way to pass time
[00:12]	schestowitz-TR	x-files I really loved, but it aired later at night
[00:12]	XRevan86	https://youtu.be/pZVSbzA4cm4
[00:12]	schestowitz-TR	not sure if they cause more scare/creep
[00:12]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- , ( ) - YouTube
[00:13]	schestowitz-TR	x-files was very well done fbi-paganda
[00:13]	schestowitz-TR	who knew fbi would save us from aliens too!
[00:14]	schestowitz-TR	with just a handgun
[00:15]	activelow	the aliens are a metaphor
[00:15]	schestowitz-TR	a crew of two
[00:15]	schestowitz-TR	no backup
[00:15]	schestowitz-TR	and one female
[00:15]	schestowitz-TR	against the supernatural
[00:15]	DaemonFC	http://www.oldversion.com/windows/solarwinds-tftp/
[00:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Download Old Versions of SolarWinds TFTP for Windows - OldVersion.com
[00:15]	DaemonFC	LOL
[00:15]	schestowitz-TR	they used another word for it
[00:15]	activelow	paranormal
[00:15]	DaemonFC	"Another one of the great Networking tools from SolarWinds."
[00:16]	schestowitz-TR	yeah
[00:16]	DaemonFC	Too soon?
[00:16]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: remember the slogan:
[00:16]	schestowitz-TR	"newer is not always better"
[00:16]	schestowitz-TR	(for crackers anyway)
[00:16]	schestowitz-TR	crackers agree: older is better
[00:19]		*schestowitz-TR 's sister still has a massive vhs collection, recorded off tv
[00:20]	techrights-news	Links 6/9/2021: NuTyX 21.09.0 and RSS Guard 4.0.1 THigHT http://techrights.org/2021/09/05/nutyx-21-09-0/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/05/nutyx-21-09-0/
[00:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/9/2021: NuTyX 21.09.0 and RSS Guard 4.0.1 | Techrights
[00:20]	techrights-news	Ulrike Uhlig & Debian, the $200,000 woman who quit http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155311 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ulrike Uhlig & Debian, the $200,000 woman who quit | Tux Machines
[00:21]	techrights-news	#FreeSoftware Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155314 #freesw
[00:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines
[00:21]	techrights-news	#Security and #ProprietarySoftware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155313 #TuxMachines
[00:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and Proprietary Software | Tux Machines
[00:22]	techrights-news	Audiocasts/Shows/Video: Linux Lite 5.6, Playing 0 A.D. Alpha 25, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155312 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows/Video: Linux Lite 5.6, Playing 0 A.D. Alpha 25, and More | Tux Machines
[00:26]	techrights-news	Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155315 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:26]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
[00:28]	techrights-news	#ibm #exodus "Yeah I'm happy to be leaving. New company, new start. See what happens" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cDTSoRU#replies
[00:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Kyndrl people on Linkedin seem happy being dumped by IBM ? Is this their real feeling ? Let us know... - post regarding IBM layoffs
[00:29]	techrights-news	#ibm #exodus "I got a retention bonus a few years ago. $20K and had to stay 2 years or pay it back. Now I feel like I got ripped. " https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cGUAr3t#replies
[00:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | My coworker has been given almost six figures not to quit within the next 12 months - post regarding IBM layoffs
[00:30]	techrights-news	"The former Georgia prosecutor who shielded the killers of #AhmaudArbery from arrest now faces charges of acting from personal prejudice. One of the killers had worked for her." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#5_September_2021_(Georgia_prosecutor)
[00:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman
[00:32]	techrights-news	Falsely marketing vaccines won't help. 3rd shots, 'passports' etc. https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS144844/UK-To-Test-Third-Vaccine-Dose-In-Immunocompromised-People see http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/08/19/covid19-communication-strategy/
[00:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS144844/UK-To-Test-Third-Vaccine-Dose-In-Immunocompromised-People )
[00:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Vaccination is Good, But the Current Vaccination Strategy (of Overwhelming Fear/Hysteria) Will Fail to Convince Sceptical People
[00:35]	techrights-news	"Its very easy to misattribute #covid19 deaths. It also looks suspicious that every day in August Russia reports almost the same numbers for COVID-19 (as does China; its always zero!)." http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/09/03/borisnaro-data/
[00:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive The Number of Brits Who Died (and Still Die) Because of COVID-19 is a Lot Higher Than the Official Figures
[00:38]	techrights-news	"Throughout my time at University I was almost constantly dealing with burnout and today I thought it would be a helpful experience to talk about how I personally dealt with burnout and the strategies I used to try and avoid it in the first place." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Fy_V1UjDnRY
[00:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Dealing With The Constant Burnout Struggle - Invidious
[00:44]	techrights-news	Taliban: Islamic Incels
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● Sep 06
[03:09]	leah	schestowitz-TR: i recall you said you use a script to convert html to gemtext
[03:09]	leah	can you show me it?
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[03:12]	techrights-ipfs-bot	 Gemini requests since start of month:   68214 total Total pages: 37302    Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 2 months 28 days ago
[03:12]	techrights-ipfs-bot	 IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated.  TotalIn: 2.0 GB    TotalOut: 410 MB
[03:12]	techrights-ipfs-bot	 New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID 
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[03:16]	techrights-ipfs-bot	QmWGNG7373TNKDtEYo1q57qkgigkeBH51AH8LfDuQhET94
[03:17]	leah	techrights-ipfs-bot: also, https seems to be broken on your site. i recommend letsencrypt, via certbot. also with an http to https redirect, and hsts enabled
[03:17]	leah	sorry i meant to highlight schestowitz-TR 
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[03:20]	DaemonFC	https://www.npr.org/2021/09/04/1034368231/facebook-apologizes-ai-labels-black-men-primates-racial-bias
[03:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Facebook Apologizes For "Primates" Label On Video Of Black Men : NPR
[03:21]	DaemonFC	Facebook issued an apology on behalf of its artificial intelligence software that asked users watching a video featuring Black men if they wanted to see more "videos about primates." [...] However, in 2015, Google's image recognition software classified photos of Black people as "gorillas." Google apologized and removed the labels of gorilla, chimp, chimpanzee and monkey -- words that remained censored over two years later, Wired reported.
[03:22]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, mjg59_ took their paychecks for years. Of course, they continue to do plenty worse, and deliberately.
[03:22]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, "Note: Facebook is among NPR's financial supporters."
[03:22]	DaemonFC	NPR, brought to you by Gates and Zuckerberg.
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[06:53]	schestowitz	leah: we are not an https site
[06:53]	schestowitz	no idea why you tried it, maybe browser extension
[06:54]	schestowitz	for htps and gemini we have self-signed cert, not outsourced
[06:54]	schestowitz	[03:09] <leah> schestowitz-TR: i recall you said you use a script to convert html to gemtext
[06:54]	schestowitz	it's in perl
[06:56]	schestowitz-TR	it is very site-specific
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[07:44]	gustaf	https has 2 use cases - encrypt/tamperproof traffic and authenticate hoster
[07:45]	gustaf	if I go to amazon.com I'm really interested in that it's actually owned by amazon
[07:45]	gustaf	if I go to Joe's random website I don't care as much
[07:45]	gustaf	but browsers conflate the 2 
● Sep 06
[08:00]	schestowitz-TR	the protocol is OK
[08:00]	schestowitz-TR	forcing people to outsources to those particular CA or be denied access
[08:00]	schestowitz-TR	or be show alarming messages
[08:00]	schestowitz-TR	is not
[08:00]	schestowitz-TR	*CAs
[08:00]	schestowitz-TR	we talked a lot about it last year
[08:01]	schestowitz-TR	and that ties into UEFI 'secure' boot
[08:01]	schestowitz-TR	yes, you can sign your own
[08:01]	schestowitz-TR	but...
[08:01]	schestowitz-TR	the machine might still refuse to boot
[08:01]	schestowitz-TR	for 'security'
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[08:12]	gustaf	eh, for malware defense that's acceptable 
[08:12]	gustaf	like I said, I have higher requirements for my bank than for techrights
[08:12]	gustaf	anyway I succumbed to the relentless LE propaganda and added it to my site
[08:13]	gustaf	it's actually very painless, kudos
[08:13]	gustaf	but so many times I visit somewhere, and they've forgotten to update their cert, and you get scary warnings
[08:24]	schestowitz-TR	there is a lesser explored aspect to it
[08:25]	schestowitz-TR	I saw it mentioned years ago
[08:25]	schestowitz-TR	it makes the entry barrier higher
[08:25]	schestowitz-TR	even compared to gemini
[08:25]	schestowitz-TR	so many people no longer bother having their own blog
[08:25]	schestowitz-TR	it helps the Web giants consolidate the space
[08:25]	schestowitz-TR	with gemini you can generate a 10-year certificate once
[08:25]	schestowitz-TR	locally, with one command
[08:26]	schestowitz-TR	I think about 80% of gemini capsules do it that way
[08:26]	schestowitz-TR	latest breakown here: gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
[08:27]	gustaf	absolutely, that is a factor
[08:27]	gustaf	but the arguments for are deafening 
[08:27]	gustaf	it's a shibboleth
[08:27]	gustaf	among some techies
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[08:27]	schestowitz-TR	in our company the wordpress certs are self-signed
[08:28]	schestowitz-TR	we should not have to connect to LE to get something for an internal site
[08:28]	schestowitz-TR	so that's how I configured it
[08:28]	schestowitz-TR	to appease stupid browsers
[08:28]	schestowitz-TR	though they might still complain at first
[08:28]	schestowitz-TR	mozilla is a Google-funded drone
[08:34]	gustaf	most bloggers don't accept credit cars or have passwords, so the only thing they're interested in is not having an ISP insert ads
[08:34]	gustaf	but thy have to use the same mechanism as for a bank
[08:34]	gustaf	LE is a workaround but no panacea
[08:35]	schestowitz-TR	banks can send you (e.g. by post) the "code" for their site
[08:36]	schestowitz-TR	so you can make sure that you reached the right thing
[08:36]	schestowitz-TR	sending auth process to another country is.... odd.
[08:38]	schestowitz-TR	the ionly reasons it is considered acceptable in the eyes of many is that "everybody is doing it!!"
[08:39]	gustaf	yeah 
[08:39]	schestowitz-TR	btw, LE is Microsoft
[08:39]	schestowitz-TR	code in shithub
[08:39]	schestowitz-TR	iirc, site code also in shithub
[08:39]	schestowitz-TR	NSA, proprietary
[08:39]	schestowitz-TR	NSA people in key roles
[08:40]	schestowitz-TR	NSA is known for intercepting
[08:40]	gustaf	EFF sponsors it too 
[08:40]	schestowitz-TR	see also how in Switzerland the CIA hid behind some front group
[08:40]	gustaf	https://www.abetterinternet.org/about/
[08:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abetterinternet.org | About Internet Security Research Group - Internet Security Research Group
[08:40]	schestowitz-TR	in the case of a Dutch companies, they subverted SIM systems
[08:41]	gustaf	this is an entertaining rant about HTTPS: http://n-gate.com/software/
[08:41]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-n-gate.com. we can't both be right.
[08:42]	schestowitz-TR	we need another kind of system
[08:42]	schestowitz-TR	gemini evolves a lot more slowly
[08:42]	schestowitz-TR	it's anti-centralisation
[08:49]	gustaf	I find it interesting that gemini mandates TLS 
[08:52]	schestowitz-TR	yes, but you can self-sign the cert
[08:52]	gustaf	yeah that makes it better
[08:53]	schestowitz-TR	it's enhanced gopher with better security and unicode
[08:53]	schestowitz-TR	you can add images too
[08:53]	gustaf	I just need to find a good client 
[08:53]	schestowitz-TR	we choose not to
[08:53]	gustaf	nothing approaches the polish of w3m
[08:53]	schestowitz-TR	simple is good
[08:54]	schestowitz-TR	I read most news in kate text editor
[08:54]	schestowitz-TR	the images don't matter to me
[08:54]	schestowitz-TR	usually some pointless image anyway
[08:54]	schestowitz-TR	like some face of a politician
● Sep 06
[09:02]	techrights-news	#EPO Expos: The Besieged Baltic States Part XV Worse Than a Backward Kolkhoz http://techrights.org/2021/09/06/backward-kolkhoz/ #europe #patents #patent #law
[09:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Expos: The Besieged Baltic States Part XV Worse Than a Backward Kolkhoz | Techrights
[09:02]	techrights-news	[Meme] When the National Average Salary is 400-500 Euros a Month http://techrights.org/2021/09/06/treating-lithuanian-officials/ #europe #patents #patent #law #lithuania
[09:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] When the National Average Salary is 400-500 Euros a Month | Techrights
[09:03]	techrights-news	#Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155316 #Linux #TuxMachines
[09:03]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[09:04]	techrights-news	#Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, September 05, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
[09:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives
[09:04]	techrights-news	#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
[09:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index
[09:05]	schestowitz-TR	gustaf: let me know your specs, i can recommend a gemini:// client (I have tried many)
[09:05]	schestowitz-TR	there is an emacs mode for it too
[09:05]	schestowitz-TR	in debian/ubuntu repos
[09:05]	gustaf	oh! that's nice 
[09:05]	gustaf	I'm on a VPS
[09:05]	techrights-news	s #IRC Proceedings: Sunday, September 05, 2021 THigHT http://techrights.org/2021/09/06/irc-log-050921/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/06/irc-log-050921/
[09:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Sunday, September 05, 2021 | Techrights
[09:05]	gustaf	stock ubuntu
[09:05]	gustaf	but console
[09:05]	schestowitz-TR	amfora might be ok
[09:06]	gustaf	yeah got it somewhere
[09:06]	schestowitz-TR	if you have coloured i/o
[09:06]	schestowitz-TR	if not, telescope alpha
[09:06]	schestowitz-TR	we now write posts as if all readers are blind
[09:06]	schestowitz-TR	so images need captions and explanation
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[09:07]	schestowitz-TR	nevigation of gemini was also impoved, e.g. by linking to irc logs over gemini as text
[09:07]	schestowitz-TR	with video links being clickable in gemini
[09:08]	techrights-news	Pocketing the support of Lithuanian officials isnt hard; as EPO presidents, Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos have had Lithuanian officials in their back pockets THigHT http://techrights.org/2021/09/06/treating-lithuanian-officials/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/06/treating-lithuanian-officials/
[09:08]	techrights-news	The Lithuanian #Patent Office has enabled the Benot #Battistelli regime at the #EPO and it continues to do the same under Antnio Campinos; we take a closer look at #Lithuania scandals too http://techrights.org/2021/09/06/backward-kolkhoz/
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[09:11]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.20   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 55.96 swarm size (avg): 263.26  
[09:13]	gustaf	lol Amfora is on a ton of distros... except ubuntu
[09:15]	schestowitz-TR	yeah
[09:18]	gustaf	ok compiled from source
[09:18]	schestowitz-TR	rust
[09:19]	techrights-news	The EPO's Lithuanian Representation, Leadership, or Delegation http://techrights.org/2021/09/06/lithuania-epo/ #europe #patents #patent #law #lithuania
[09:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Lithuanian Representation, Leadership, or Delegation | Techrights
[09:19]	schestowitz-TR	gustaf: it has a config file you might want to tinker with
[09:26]	techrights-news	We've already begun preparing part 16 of the series with focus on the EPOs Lithuanian representation [sic]. "A Promising Start Followed by an Unfortunate Cock-Up". #corruption #europe #lithuania
[09:27]	techrights-news	"The PPI and PPA should not be ratified by other member states, as the UK is still mentioned in there. National Parliaments should rather send a request for renegotiation to the Council." #teamUPC #unitaryPatent #liars #corruption #epo http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/09/01/chairman-preparatory-committee-is-hopeful-start-unified-patent-court-will-not-be-delayed-by-brexit-complications/
[09:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Chairman Preparatory Committee is hopeful start Unified Patent Court will not be delayed by Brexit complications - Kluwer Patent Blog
[09:29]	techrights-news	The good news? #freesw is winning (growing usage, more companies/govs/people defend on it). The bad news? Corporations are working busily and overtime to dilute or water down its freedom. Optimists' stance: we just need to persevere and fight back. Pessimists: it's too later. #github killed freedom. #microsoft
[09:32]	techrights-news	In parallel to the fight for #freesw or #softwareFreedom we should also combat the #wwww oligarchies/oligopolies, either by working to replace parts of the WWW or decentralising the network; power consolidation is achieved not only by #ProprietarySoftware (today's WWW is #openwashing and DRM with patents on top)
[09:35]	techrights-news	Many people and companies wrongly assume that "code available on Github" is "open source" or #freesw -- perhaps conveniently ignoring the simple fact that #github itself is #proprietarySoftware and it's controlled by the NSA and #microsoft -- which STILL actively fights against developers to herd them into proprietary traps!! Correct the misconceptions. It's hugely important. http://techrights.org/2021/09/05/free-software-number-1-en
[09:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The State of Free Software | Techrights
[09:35]	techrights-news	 NEWS #IndiaTimes #Confidentiality #Privacy alarm in #Indonesia over president's leaked #vaccine certificate https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/privacy-alarm-in-indonesia-over-presidents-leaked-vaccine-certificate/85966911
[09:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Privacy alarm in Indonesia over president's leaked vaccine certificate, IT News, ET CIO
[09:37]	techrights-news	Lately, #techrights videos became fewer but a lot longer (some as long as an hour) http://techrights.org/videos/
[09:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full Videos Index
[09:41]	Ariadne	this techrights video website renders really broken on firefox
[09:41]	schestowitz-TR	yes, it's not ideal, it's auto-generated
[09:41]	schestowitz-TR	it's also b/w-heavy
[09:41]	Ariadne	https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/OpJRjqxR/Screen%20Shot%202021-09-06%20at%203.39.34%20AM.png
[09:41]	schestowitz-TR	because of the gifs
[09:42]	schestowitz-TR	Ariadne: yes, it should render like this
[09:42]	schestowitz-TR	there's a cron job updating it several times per day
[09:42]	schestowitz	also see http://techrights.org/videos.html
[09:42]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full Videos Listing
[09:42]	schestowitz-TR	this one is cleaner but 'static'
[09:42]	schestowitz-TR	with one in gemini:
[09:43]	schestowitz	gemini://gemini.techrights.org/videos/
[09:43]	schestowitz	I DID look into several videos CMSs
[09:43]	schestowitz	mediagoblin was underwhelming
[09:43]	schestowitz	lbry was dodgy as f*
[09:44]	schestowitz	sadly, too many freesw projects just say, "toss in on googletube"
[09:44]	schestowitz	peertube is interesting
[09:44]	schestowitz	but ime it is very slow unless the videos are in wide circulation
[09:44]	schestowitz	ipfs also has a sever slowness problem
[09:50]	Ariadne	with the TV part?
[09:50]	Ariadne	i guess the TV part gets replaced with a video
[09:50]	schestowitz-TR	yeah
[09:51]	schestowitz-TR	sort of emulates some sites, but without the javascript
[09:52]	schestowitz-TR	just iframe specs
[09:52]	techrights-news	 NEWS #VOANews #PressFreedom #Taliban Return Signals 'End to Press Freedom,' Afghan Journalists Say https://www.voanews.com/press-freedom/taliban-return-signals-end-press-freedom-afghan-journalists-say
[09:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Taliban Return Signals 'End to Press Freedom,' Afghan Journalists Say | Voice of America - English
[09:53]	schestowitz-TR	all video processing  is bash+rsync+ffmpeg and the gif is generated 'offline' with ffmpeg
[09:58]	techrights-news	#google #nhs #espionage #dataTheft #uk https://www.newscientist.com/article/2289101-google-is-shutting-down-controversial-data-sharing-project-with-nhs/ paywall
[09:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newscientist.com | Google is shutting down controversial data-sharing project with NHS | New Scientist
● Sep 06
[10:00]	techrights-news	Trolls again. They help #ibm by ruining the forums. "My parents installed net nanny so I spend all my time on these boards asking silly questions and posting fake observations. I dont work for IBM. I dont even work at all - IT is too tough for me and makes my head hurt." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cHMC6Dj
[10:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | My parents installed net nanny so I spend all my time posting fake questions. - post regarding IBM layoffs
[10:00]	techrights-news	old: #www should be 'thinner' gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2019/08/10/making-the-web-light/
[10:00]	techrights-news	iophk: the bell curve is severely shifted to one side and not centered at all :( https://www.adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc/
[10:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.adfontesmedia.com | Media Bias Chart, Static - Ad Fontes Media
[10:02]	techrights-news	#ibm #exodus and #braindrain is VERY VERY severe at the moment (even the president resigned this summer). "This is common in power where the bleed is fast, 100k for two years is common for highly skilled and can be negotiated to 100k for one year." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cGUAr3t#replies
[10:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | My coworker has been given almost six figures not to quit within the next 12 months - post regarding IBM layoffs
[10:03]	techrights-news	"I no longer work at #IBM but can relate to the idiosyncrasies, red tape, poor management, inadequate products and support, lack of even basic knowledge at the technical staff level, stupid business decisions to sacrifice long term client relations (and profit) for short term "wins"." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cHMC6Dj#replies
[10:03]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | My parents installed net nanny so I spend all my time posting fake questions. - post regarding IBM layoffs
[10:04]	techrights-news	" I could go on an on, this board nails it if you ask me. And yes, I believe #IBM is soon ending up as a shadow of it self. Not because I want them to, but because that is factually what happens." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cHMC6Dj#replies
[10:22]	techrights-news	My #xfce laptop will soon exceed 100 days in uptime. #gnu #linux is very stable. I heard from #microsoft staff that they reboot #windows at least once a week due to performance issues. Yes, even Microsofters!
[10:28]	techrights-news	VERY VERY VERY "Smart" meters... https://nitter.eu/gerryxuk/status/1434802665641414662
[10:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Gerry X (@gerryxuk): "I have been switched to E.On Next a few weeks , and yesterday I noticed the In-Home display was not working, having read the previous comments I will just wait. The meter readings for gas has not been sent/read for 63 days, and electric 37 days" | nitter
[10:29]	techrights-news	Those are NOT "Smart" at all and you did help your friend https://nitter.eu/Thumpers_pet/status/1434797096050339841 #npower #eon #eonNext
[10:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Sue Rogers (@Thumpers_pet): "Convinced my friend to get a smart meter then took 2 1/2 yrs to let her know she hasnt been paying for her electric. She still cant get a payment plan set up just demands for the whole total. Shes a working single parent on UC." | nitter
[10:31]	techrights-news	Maybe #npower / #eon / #eonNext hired Stallone (before he became an actor and was a debt-collecting violent thug) https://twitter.com/gardenerchar/status/1434453786697818115
[10:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gardenerchar: @eonenergyuk Why are you terrorising my 98yr old Great Aunt by referring her to a debt collection agency for a paym https://t.co/wOgplsHSD8
[10:33]	techrights-news	"Renewable" or "sustainable" is 100% #greenwashing (basically pure nonsense) from #npower / #eon / #eonNext and I can't believe people fall for it https://nitter.eu/gbrnetworx/status/1434619272446320648
[10:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Roger (@gbrnetworx): "The worst company I have been with I switched to another supplier & received 3 final bills from eon as they can't calculate the bills correctly. Also renewable energy equals huge increases in bills. I am switched back again as my supplier went bust so the switch process starts." | nitter
[10:36]	techrights-news	Yuppie #greenwashing : I use "DARK MODE" on my "smart" phone
[10:38]	techrights-news	Also yuppie #greenwashing : I use an edible straw with my $5 latte. I help save the world!
[10:39]	techrights-news	#apple to its customers: YOU ARE ALL SICK PERVERTS. PROVE US WRONG!!! https://www.cracked.com/article_31187_apples-scanning-your-photos-heres-wh
[10:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple's Scanning Your Photos (Here's What That Means) | Cracked.com
[10:44]	techrights-news	This morning we begin to take a look at #Lithuania s officials who play (or played) a role at the #EPO THigHT http://techrights.org/2021/09/06/lithuania-epo/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/06/lithuania-epo/
[10:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Lithuanian Representation, Leadership, or Delegation | Techrights
● Sep 06
[11:11]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.35   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 85.41 swarm size (avg): 263.24  
[11:29]	techrights-news	#Lawyers who profit from #blackmail and #litigation have a hard time grasping the fact that not everything has "owners" and in the Internet "IP" isn't the propaganda term they like to misuse https://blog.dennemeyer.com/everyday-ip-who-owns-the-internet #dennemeyer = liars, not laywers
[11:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.dennemeyer.com | Everyday IP: Who owns the internet?
[11:31]	techrights-news	#Lifesciences or #Lifescience is a widely misused term that #patent extremists leverage to justify #monopolies on life and nature https://www.lexology.com/commentary/intellectual-property/brazil/montaury-pimenta-machado-vieira-de-mello/life-sciences-patents-in-brazil-hot-topics see http://techrights.org/2018/07/08/life-science-patents/
[11:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Life sciences patents in Brazil: hot topics - Commentary - Lexology
[11:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Term Life Science Has Outlived Its Usefulness | Techrights
[11:32]	techrights-news	Loaded headlines with words like "yet" as if it is inevitable and necessary to grant #monopolies to #bots https://interestingengineering.com/the-us-says-ai-cant-be-an-inventor-as-its-not-an-individual-yet #uspto #patents
[11:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-interestingengineering.com | The US Says AI Can't Be an Inventor As It's Not An Individual, Yet
[11:33]	techrights-news	Antoine Beaupr: Automating major Debian upgrades https://anarc.at/blog/2021-09-05-bullseye-upgrade-notes/ #debian #gnu #linux #freesw
[11:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anarc.at | Automating major Debian upgrades - anarcat
[11:37]	techrights-news	EPO just scatters around loads of low-quality and invalid #patents ; apparently many companies are still unaware of what happened to the #EPO http://www.koreabiomed.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=12081 see http://techrights.org/2021/03/25/epo-potential-improvements/
[11:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.koreabiomed.com | JW Pharms gout drug URC102 certified as source technology in Europe < Pharma < - KBR
[11:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Staff Representation Again Warns About Collapse in Patent Quality (Due to Bad Management), Suggests Potential Improvements | Techrights
[11:42]	techrights-news	Wanna bet these #patents too were granted in a rush and would likely not withstand (not easily anyway) an actual court's scrutiny? They need to read up on the collapse of the #EPO (the media is paid to turn a blind eye) https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20210905005003/en/Hoffmann-Green-Cement-Technologies-Announces-That-It-Has-Been-Granted-an-H-P2A-Patent-in-Europe http://techrights.org/2021/03/25/epo-potential-improvements/
[11:42]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com | Hoffmann Green Cement Technologies Announces That It Has Been Granted an H-P2A Patent in Europe | Business Wire
[11:45]	techrights-news	#RetroArch 1.9.9 is out with AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution (FSR) support | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/retroarch-199-is-out-with-amd-fidelityfx-super-resolution-fsr-support #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 
[11:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RetroArch 1.9.9 is out with AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution (FSR) support | GamingOnLinux
[11:46]	techrights-news	Digital Transparency: A Right to Information Report for August, 2021 https://internetfreedom.in/digital-transparency-a-right-to-information-report-for-august-2021/ #internetfreedom
[11:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internetfreedom.in | Digital Transparency: A Right to Information Report for August, 2021
[11:48]	techrights-news	" #OpenRA for classic Westwood RTS games, #openXcom for for the X-COM and more it's another great example of a community of people reviving old games for modern platforms." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/keeping-the-classic-heroes-of-might-and-magic-ii-alive-fheroes2-097-is-out
[11:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Keeping the classic Heroes of Might and Magic II alive fheroes2 0.9.7 is out | GamingOnLinux
[11:49]	techrights-news	Totally Reliable Delivery Service adds Linux support in the latest update | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/totally-reliable-delivery-service-adds-linux-support-in-the-latest-update #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 
[11:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Totally Reliable Delivery Service adds Linux support in the latest update | GamingOnLinux
[11:51]	techrights-news	First they came for the vulnerable, saying the vaccines will save their lives (which is true by the way). Then they came for the elderly... and nos they come for the children... to sell more #patent licences in rich countries. It's about patents, not patients. Children's lives aren't being saved by COVID vaccines.
[11:57]	techrights-news	#Games Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155317 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[11:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games Leftovers | Tux Machines
[11:58]	techrights-news	Media and Web sites are governed in the speech sense by those who pay them and thus 'sustain' them (for personal gain) http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ #twitter #socialcontrolmedia #billgates #censorship
[11:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights
[11:59]	techrights-news	Months ago: Media Frenzy Around #BillGates Divorce Helps Distract From Bills Crimes http://techrights.org/2021/05/04/media-still-distracts/
[11:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Media Frenzy Around Gates Divorce Helps Distract From Bills Crimes | Techrights
● Sep 06
[12:00]	schestowitz	gm, activelow
[12:00]	schestowitz	what are those codes?
[12:06]	activelow	good morning
[12:07]	activelow	was queried by someone accusing you of plagiarism and wanted to let you know to feel free to publish anything you desire with inspirations of mine
[12:08]	activelow	schestowitz: when citing please do so correctly, otherwise i got no problem with this
[12:09]	schestowitz-TR	did we copy-paste something large?
[12:09]	schestowitz-TR	I saw someone using bad words last night and could not make sense of it
[12:10]	schestowitz-TR	is the query is encrypted, my irc client does not support it
[12:10]	schestowitz-TR	it's like a long garbled hash
[12:12]	activelow	nothing relevant
[12:12]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155318 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[12:12]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[12:12]	activelow	if you want i can post the website url here which accused you of plagiarism and misrepresenting facts, but i do not feel any drama over this is worth any effort
[12:16]	schestowitz-TR	Oh, now I know who that is
[12:16]	schestowitz-TR	and what's going on
[12:17]	schestowitz-TR	he wrote the wiki pages
[12:17]	schestowitz-TR	and don't like me linking to them???
[12:17]	schestowitz-TR	*won't
[12:19]	schestowitz-TR	he lurks in IRC then...
[12:29]	activelow	the nickname disconnected from techrights irc already, couldn't respond anymore
[12:31]	activelow	again, feel free to publish (which doesn't require my consent anyway), and when citing please do so with honesty
[12:46]	techrights-news	#Mozilla #Firefox 92 Is Now Available for Download, Heres Whats New http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155319 #TuxMachines
[12:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Firefox 92 Is Now Available for Download, Heres Whats New | Tux Machines
[12:46]	techrights-news	Review: #elementaryOS 6.0 "Odin" http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155320 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[12:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: elementary OS 6.0 "Odin" | Tux Machines
[12:50]	techrights-news	Linux for Starters: Your Guide to Linux Try Different Desktops Part 16 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155321 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[12:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux for Starters: Your Guide to Linux Try Different Desktops Part 16 | Tux Machines
[12:52]	schestowitz-TR	activelow: i did not even know about that site
[12:52]	schestowitz-TR	until now
[12:53]	techrights-news	System76 Pangolin Linux laptop with AMD Ryzen 5500U & 5700U CPUs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/145062#comment-30880
[12:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76 to Launch Their First AMD-Only Pangolin Linux Laptop | Tux Machines
[12:55]	techrights-news	#Jetson Nano & Xavier NX carrier board offers 3x M.2 sockets, 10x RS232/RS485 interfaces http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155322 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[12:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Jetson Nano & Xavier NX carrier board offers 3x M.2 sockets, 10x RS232/RS485 interfaces | Tux Machines
[12:59]	activelow	schestowitz-TR: promoting an AND Ryzen as "Linux laptop" is outrageous
[12:59]	schestowitz-TR	some people see it from another POV
[12:59]	schestowitz-TR	they are just happy with brands
● Sep 06
[13:00]	schestowitz-TR	not apple, no microsoft
[13:00]	activelow	is tuxmachines.org affiliated with techrights?
[13:00]	schestowitz-TR	like you said, RMS settled for IBM ThinkPad
[13:00]	schestowitz-TR	activelow: rianne runs tuxmachines with me
[13:01]	activelow	it is ok when anyone choosed to use an AMD Ryzen or Wintel IBM PC
[13:01]	schestowitz-TR	techrights is a lot bigger in the number of people involved "sense"
[13:01]	schestowitz-TR	activelow: the challenges are MASSIVE
[13:01]	schestowitz-TR	so we need to compartmentalise a little
[13:01]	schestowitz-TR	like, steam with drm
[13:01]	schestowitz-TR	gpu with lots of crap inside
[13:01]	schestowitz-TR	kde uses the gpu a lot
[13:02]	schestowitz-TR	of "hardware acceleration" at some other level
[13:02]	activelow	it is deception and fraud to label this "free software" with the banner of gnu and fsf
[13:02]	schestowitz-TR	but kde is not compulsory
[13:03]	schestowitz-TR	you could boot up a kernel
[13:03]	schestowitz-TR	then then work from a palin terminal
[13:04]	schestowitz-TR	and even use direct rendering for graphics
[13:04]	schestowitz-TR	maybe the 'good' DRM
[13:04]	activelow	even with a Z80 UZI it is almost impossible to terminate with VT100 at least with free and opensource software (and hardware if you insist)
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[13:07]	activelow	btw. this was related to Alan Cox resigning over some dispute, with serial terminal I/O and kernel hacks breaking userspace; who knows what's going on there, don't hink it is a coincidence Alan Cox strand landed at FuzixOS instead of any Wintel IBM PC
[13:08]	activelow	add to this: fuzixOS, sdcc compiler and related are mostly GPL, except for some very few legacy parts which weren't licensed at all 40 years ago
[13:10]	schestowitz-TR	did you try it?
[13:11]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.78   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 85.78 swarm size (avg): 263.21  
[13:11]	activelow	cannot order any parts until the court case against me is finished, to recheck my budget if i can spare some cash for it
[13:13]	techrights-news	#ibm #exodus "When I turned that down, they offered me half of it to stay an extra six months to help with transition to my replacement. I also said no to that." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cGUAr3t#replies
[13:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | My coworker has been given almost six figures not to quit within the next 12 months - post regarding IBM layoffs
[13:13]	techrights-news	Links 6/9/2021: RetroArch 1.9.9 and Mozilla Firefox 92 THigHT http://techrights.org/2021/09/06/retroarch-1-9-9/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/06/retroarch-1-9-9/
[13:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/9/2021: RetroArch 1.9.9 and Mozilla Firefox 92 | Techrights
[13:14]	techrights-news	Learn everything about computers with this Raspberry Pi kit http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155323 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[13:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Learn everything about computers with this Raspberry Pi kit | Tux Machines
[13:14]	techrights-news	Antoine Beaupr: Automating major #Debian upgrades http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155324 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[13:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Antoine Beaupr: Automating major Debian upgrades | Tux Machines
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[13:16]	techrights-news	"It's not like anybody is claiming that #IBM is a great place to work." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cGzofyD#replies
[13:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Perception vs Reality - post regarding IBM layoffs
[13:19]	techrights-news	#Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155325 #Linux #TuxMachines
[13:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[13:19]	activelow	schestowitz-TR: 512KiB SRAM, 32MiB filesystem size, this is the limits there, and yes i will not invest into gnu/linux anymore
[13:20]	activelow	this looks promising, with Xilinx involved: https://sowerbutts.com/socz80/
[13:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sowerbutts.com | socz80 FPGA retro microcomputer
[13:21]	activelow	this got 64MiB address space; i will begin without any MMU, DMA and other fancy stuff
[13:23]	activelow	last time i played with this was an Altera Max7000 CPLD without any operating system at all, only some 74xx parts flashed into, and some blinking LEDs as a simple watch
[13:29]	leah	LOL
[13:29]	leah	http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-050921.txt
[13:29]	leah	[13:40]  -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Leah Rowe (@n4of7): "Delete, now, thx. I do not wish to be associated with Freenode. The photo in @freenodestaff's tweet is me talking about Libreboot at http://freenode.live 2018 when the old staff ran it. I don't support Andrew Lee or the new staff as of 2021-05-19. See: https://libreboot.org/news/libera.html" | nitter
[13:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: freenode.live; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http://freenode.live )
[13:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libreboot.org | Libreboot Libreboot IRC now operating exclusively on Libera Chat
[13:29]	leah	schestowitz-TR: you saw my tweet lol
[13:29]	leah	i thought that freenode tweet was a new one by andrew lee, so i responded. however, i realized later that it was an old tweet from 2018, back when the old staff ran freenode
[13:30]	leah	(i google my name every week. aswell as libreboot and several other things)
[13:30]	leah	(yes google. via startpage.com, with javascript turned off)
[13:32]	activelow	ironically with the court case against me IBM was cited as credible source, because they do some fancy docker things and hadn't noticed any problems I saw when bringing gentoo onto some ARM SBC
[13:33]	activelow	i should have ditched the ARM SBC idea already when some memory regions were documented as "reserved" in the spec sheets, without mentioning what these are used for
● Sep 06
[14:13]	gustaf	thats' what "reserved" means, you set them aside for future use 
[14:27]	schestowitz	startpage is spying
[14:27]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Startpage
[14:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Startpage - Techrights
[14:30]	techrights-news	"If you don't see nepotism at #IBM , you definitely aren't looking hard enough. The amount of summer interns that are children of Band D/C/B execs is fu----g overwhelming." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cGzofyD#replies
[14:31]	techrights-news	"I guess it's legal but the amount of IBMers whose parents were former execs shows you how nepotism works in this company. Successfully" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cGzofyD#replies #ibm
[14:32]	techrights-news	#ibm "As I explained to my manager, "I'm retiring because I have enough money. What would I do with more than enough money?". It's not like $50K spread over the remainder of my retirement would be a significant change." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cGUAr3t#replies
[14:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | My coworker has been given almost six figures not to quit within the next 12 months - post regarding IBM layoffs
[14:33]	techrights-news	No, US passes a lot of money to #patent profiteers, which it values more than actual patients https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS143612/UK-Spending-29bn-On-Seven-COVID19-Vaccines
[14:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS143612/UK-Spending-29bn-On-Seven-COVID19-Vaccines )
[14:35]	techrights-news	#Trademarks case and #scotus https://www.managingip.com/article/b1tfc8hmbp6qyd/foreign-sales-trademark-case-ripe-for-scotus-appeal-to-fix-split
[14:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Foreign sales trademark case ripe for SCOTUS appeal to fix split | Managing Intellectual Property
[14:36]	techrights-news	"At a time when the European Commission is challenging the Chinese stance on global standard-essential patent (SEP) dispute resolution by means of a set of questions raised at the WTO" which exists to protect #patent #rackets http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/09/chinas-top-court-affirms-jurisdiction.html
[14:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: China's top court affirms jurisdiction over global FRAND rates in OPPO v. Sharp, finding overwhelmingly strong Chinese connection
[14:39]	techrights-news	Many #patents improv innovation like getting infected with coronavirus improves your health...
[14:43]	XRevan86	leah: heh :)
[14:45]	techrights-news	They have become a legal landmine, with as much as raids to confiscate them over lousy #patents https://stop.zona-m.net/1/01/why-escooters-are-right-innovation/
[14:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Why escooters are right innovation | Stop at Zona-M
[14:46]	activelow	reminds me, digged inside AMD AGESA specs for some weeks to, horror
[14:47]	techrights-news	#microsoftTim on #torvalds rejecting #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/06/github_merges_useless_garbage_says/ also see http://techrights.org/2020/08/27/outsourcing-linux-to-microsoft-github/
[14:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | GitHub merges 'useless garbage' says Linus Torvalds as new NTFS support added to Linux kernel 5.15 The Register
[14:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Warning: Microsoft Tim and Microsofts New Mole Inside Linux Foundation Board (a Paid-For Seat) Liaise to Outsource Linux Development to Microsofts Proprietary Software Trap | Techrights
[14:47]	activelow	coreboot is still trying to hire to maintain some old AMD server board: even if i wanted to i couldn't
[14:49]	activelow	which is remarkable given the billions of cash involved, a 10year old system isn't fully maintained
[14:49]	techrights-news	#microsoft #github is, indeed, useless garbage that should be avoided and shunned (it teaches people to violate the GPL; they can get sued!) https://opensourcesecurity.io/2021/09/05/episode-287-is-githubs-copilot-the-new-clippy/
[14:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensourcesecurity.io | Episode 287 Is GitHubs Copilot the new Clippy? Open Source Security
[14:50]	activelow	after having seen the sources of AGESA, vendors have reasons not to publish those
[14:51]	techrights-news	#Lakka 3.4 release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155326 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lakka 3.4 release | Tux Machines
[14:51]	activelow	now AMD Ryzen with AMD PSP supervisor (an ARM SoC) is advertised as "Linux Laptop" after AMD could not repair the platform init for 10years before
[14:51]	activelow	schestowitz: yes i did try it
[14:52]	techrights-news	Brendan Gregg: #ZFS Is Mysteriously Eating My CPU http://www.brendangregg.com/blog/2021-09-06/zfs-is-mysteriously-eating-my-cpu.html keep it simple...
[14:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.brendangregg.com | ZFS Is Mysteriously Eating My CPU
[14:53]	techrights-news	#opensuse and #google money https://news.opensuse.org/2021/09/06/os-results-from-gsoc/
[14:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE Results from Google Summer of Code - openSUSE News
[14:54]	activelow	the common denominator of all of them, AMD/Xilinx or Altera/Intel is this: "IBM PC" and their system design
[14:54]	techrights-news	Tuxedo Stellaris: The Meanest Laptop Money Can Buy https://boilingsteam.com/tuxedo-stellaris-the-meanest-laptop-money-can-buy/ #gnu #linux preloaded
[14:54]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Tuxedo Stellaris: The Meanest Laptop Money Can Buy - Boiling Steam
[14:55]	activelow	this "IBM PC" system design for more than 30 years is based on the principle idea of some sidechannel management, such as legacy "BIOS", UEFI, and with ARM it is the ATF
[14:56]	techrights-news	#TurnipBoy Commits Tax Evasion restored full Linux support in the latest update | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/turnip-boy-commits-tax-evasion-restored-full-linux-support-in-the-latest-update #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 
[14:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Turnip Boy Commits Tax Evasion restored full Linux support in the latest update | GamingOnLinux
[14:56]	activelow	which means the real operating system isn't the one installed, it is the piece of software executed before any other operating system is launched
[14:57]	activelow	with raspberry it is the "azure threadx rtos" implanted into the GPU, with AMD Ryzen now it is their PSP, and this is implanted into every peripheral too: hard disks, usb
[14:58]	activelow	and this is the explanation too, why untapped vt100 terminal i/o is troublesome and rarely available, if at all
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[15:00]	activelow	from the beginning "IBM PC" was designed to keep peripheral I/O proprietary and controlled by "BIOS" on proprietary hardware
[15:01]	activelow	this is the real "IBM PC" operating system: legacy "BIOS" or lately the UEFI sh**
[15:01]	techrights-news	"Last week I was part of a meeting with the UKs Competition and Markets Authority, the regulator, to talk about Apple devices and the browser choice (or lack of it) on them." https://www.kryogenix.org/days/2021/09/06/talking-to-the-competition-and-markets-authority-about-apple/ http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/
[15:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kryogenix.org | as days pass by Talking to the Competition and Markets Authority aboutApple
[15:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights
[15:02]	techrights-news	"Want to install #GNU #Linux but think it might be a disaster? Installing Linux on a PC or laptop is easier than you think - here's what you need to know." https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-install-linux/
[15:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | How to Install Linux on Any PC or Laptop
[15:04]	techrights-news	TRULY terrible advice by "Ubuntu" PIT https://www.ubuntupit.com/how-to-enable-full-disk-encryption-in-windows-10-system/ #BitLocker = #Microsoft back doors http://techrights.org/2014/07/31/microsoft-back-doors-admission/ http://techrights.org/2015/11/14/microsoft-bitlocker-has-bugback-doors-windows-laptopdesktop-encryption-just-a-farce/
[15:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntupit.com | How to Enable Full Disk Encryption in Windows 10 System
[15:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Former Microsoft Engineer Working on Windows BitLocker Confirms Government Asks Microsoft for Back Doors | Techrights
[15:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft BitLocker Has Bug/Back Doors, Windows Laptop/Desktop Encryption Just a Farce | Techrights
[15:08]	techrights-news	#HPLIP 3.21.8 Released with RHEL 8.4, Linux Mint 20.2 & More Printers Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155327 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[15:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HPLIP 3.21.8 Released with RHEL 8.4, Linux Mint 20.2 & More Printers Support | Tux Machines
[15:08]	MinceR	06 091213 < gustaf> eh, for malware defense that's acceptable
[15:08]	MinceR	the only way Restricted Boot is "malware defense" is that it defends malware against removal
[15:10]	activelow	pico kernels are at the scale of 4KiB in size
[15:11]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 39.40   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 99.46 swarm size (avg): 263.18  
[15:12]	activelow	z80 UZI kernel is reported with 8KiB, plus some userspace parts; suffices to say this is enough to hijack an entire system far below noise floor with a 300baud serial line
[15:14]	activelow	in comparison even "Minix" inside IntelME is a heavyweight "Small memory footprint (kernel is 600 KiB)"
[15:17]	activelow	question isn't which operating system is installed, it is how many operating systems are present in parallel on a typical "IBM PC"
[15:19]	activelow	the privilege gnu/linux has is to allocate GiB of RAM with hundreds of millions of lines of code, instead of a few KiB
[15:20]	activelow	even if IntelME is wiped, "micro controllers" (Microchip PIC32 and similar) are soldered everywhere
[15:22]	activelow	i remember some TI MSP430 developers, who measured their power consumption with a few milliwatts drawn from a tiny button cell to operate for weeks and years
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[15:36]	blitzed	https://thehackernews.com/2021/09/protonmail-shares-activists-ip-address.html
[15:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehackernews.com | ProtonMail Shares Activist's IP Address With Authorities Despite Its "No Log" Claims
[15:36]	gustaf	https://thenewstack.io/meet-the-college-student-who-makes-his-own-chips/
[15:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenewstack.io | Meet the College Student Who Makes His Own Chips The New Stack
[15:43]	gustaf	https://protonmail.com/blog/climate-activist-arrest/
[15:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-protonmail.com | Important clarifications regarding arrest of climate activist
[15:57]	activelow	the hobby fab manufactured a CPU with "the same technology of as intel's first CPU", which is close to feasibility to produce required parts for a gigatron ttl
[15:58]	activelow	gustaf: i remember often pioneers had trouble with RAM and ROM chips and their capacity/density, at least to have available 32KiB RAM and 32KiB ROM instead of 1KiB here and there
● Sep 06
[16:03]	techrights-news	#OpenWrt 21.02 released with WPA3, HTTPS, TLS enabled by default http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155301#comment-30883
[16:03]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenWrt 21.02 Comes with WPA3 Support Included by Default | Tux Machines
[16:04]	techrights-news	#headphones without wires a #privacy risk https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2021/09/tracking-people-by-their-mac-addresses.html
[16:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tracking People by their MAC Addresses - Schneier on Security
[16:05]	techrights-news	A lack of #privacy can kill you in some situations https://eu.boell.org/en/2021/09/02/afghanistan-forces-digital-ethics-reckoning
[16:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eu.boell.org | Afghanistan forces digital-ethics reckoning | Heinrich Bll Stiftung | Brussels office - European Union
[16:06]	techrights-news	#ASUS Platform Profile Support, Alder Lake PMC Support + More Land For Linux 5.15 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.15-x86-Drivers #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/06/#latest
[16:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ASUS Platform Profile Support, Alder Lake PMC Support + More Land For Linux 5.15 - Phoronix
[16:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
[16:08]	techrights-news	How to develop Linux applications for #FIPS on #Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/how-to-develop-linux-applications-for-fips-on-ubuntu
[16:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to develop Linux applications for FIPS on Ubuntu | Ubuntu
[16:08]	activelow	the original intel engineers of that time left intel, and founded Zilog company whose chips are manufactured more than 40 years later(!), and a z80 can run fuzixOS even, sdcc compiler available. tcp/ip networking, vt100 terminal i/o, serial, parallel port, floppy disk, RTC
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[16:09]	techrights-news	#Lakka 3.4 Available to Download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155326#comment-30881
[16:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Lakka 3.4 release | Tux Machines
[16:09]	activelow	an FPGA with 512KiB SRAM is available for 30Euros nowadays, but i had not seen a full system integration for the specific board i am interested in
[16:11]	techrights-news	#ProtonMail Shares Activist's IP Address With Authorities Despite Its "No Log" Claims https://thehackernews.com/2021/09/protonmail-shares-activists-ip-address.html face-saving: https://protonmail.com/blog/climate-activist-arrest/
[16:12]	activelow	and this won't be easy, even without MMU, DMA and other fancy things first
[16:13]	techrights-news	tl;dr #ProtonMail : we just obeyed orders. Reality: they should not have kept logs. ProtonMail gets no recommendation from us...
[16:14]	activelow	given the fact some z80 SoC design was demonstrated on an Xilinx FPGA, clocked at 128MHz, with max 64MiB adress space and 8MiB DRAM available
[16:14]	activelow	and fuzixOS is opensource, sdcc compiler too, GPL
[16:18]	activelow	filesystem size limit i stumbled upon was 32MiB with some deployment of FuzixOS or CP/M, not sure which anymore, collected too many documents to review
[16:19]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155328 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[16:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[16:19]	techrights-news	The 6 Best Open Source Lightroom Alternatives http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155329 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[16:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 6 Best Open Source Lightroom Alternatives | Tux Machines
[16:20]	schestowitz	activelow: https://www.newelectronics.co.uk/electronics-news/tachyum-boots-linux-on-prodigy-fpga/240125/
[16:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newelectronics.co.uk | Tachyum boots Linux on Prodigy FPGA
[16:21]	techrights-news	#BunsenLabs Lithium-3 is out. #gnu #linux https://www.bunsenlabs.org/news.html
[16:21]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bunsenlabs.org | BunsenLabs Linux :: News
[16:23]	techrights-news	#Rakudo Weekly News: 2021.36 Clean Disp https://rakudoweekly.blog/2021/09/06/2021-36-clean-disp/ #rakulang #programming
[16:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rakudoweekly.blog | 2021.36 Clean Disp Rakudo Weekly News
[16:24]	techrights-news	" #EasyOS, and all the pups, login as root, but with capability of running apps as user "spot". I am planning to create a Chromium or Chrome browser PET or SFS, and intend to run the browser with user spot." https://bkhome.org/news/202109/spot-moved-to-new-kennel.html
[16:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | spot moved to new kennel
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[16:29]	activelow	schestowitz: my opinion on this?
[16:32]	schestowitz-TR	activelow: I saw some more mentions of it last week
[16:32]	schestowitz-TR	it is still circulation
[16:32]	schestowitz-TR	but yes, I am not sure what to make of it
[16:32]	schestowitz-TR	I used programmable boards ages ago
[16:32]	schestowitz-TR	but not Linux
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	they were xilinx, though the progrmming end ran on redhat linux (before fedora existed)
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	I share your goals of hardware freedom, but it's even a higher challenge than s/w freedom
[16:33]	schestowitz-TR	programmable boards cannot be audited at the deeper levels
[16:34]	MinceR	https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/peterwhathaveyoudone.png   ( https://explosm.net/comics/1170/ )
[16:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net)
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	however, you could in theory so of 'virtualise; your designs on them
[16:34]	schestowitz-TR	performance would be poor, but at least you have at gate level control over what you think it is programmed to run
[16:34]	activelow	fuzixOS realm and developement tooling isn't hardware, but anyway, it is the same criteria and reasoning to arrive at z80 UZI instead of 
[16:35]	schestowitz-TR	at one point, after testing on it, you can share designs on the Net
[16:35]	activelow	what was shown
[16:35]	schestowitz-TR	if many people improve the designs they can crowdfund mass production
[16:36]	schestowitz-TR	you to some factory in the east: I run this on the fpga, MAKE ME THIS, all the way bottom-up from the core
[16:36]	MinceR	how do you make sure they don't put a backdoor in it?
[16:36]	schestowitz-TR	that's a know issue
[16:36]	schestowitz-TR	the manufacturing
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	the West would do that too
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	it is almost circular because the fabs also have makers
[16:37]	MinceR	i know, but that doesn't eliminate the backdoors
[16:37]	schestowitz-TR	the thing is, to run an irc clients we don't need 32 cores at 3ghz
[16:38]	schestowitz-TR	so now we can worry less and make decent cpus with very fine fab process, like 7micrometer
[16:38]	schestowitz-TR	you take one "ok" core, make 1000 of it
[16:38]	schestowitz-TR	that can bre enough for browsing, communication etc.
[16:39]	schestowitz-TR	MinceR: maybe you are the back door, too
[16:39]	schestowitz-TR	but we expect to start with >zero trust
[16:39]	MinceR	lol
[16:40]	schestowitz-TR	last month microsoft started name-dropping "zero trust"
[16:40]	schestowitz-TR	it trusts the nsa
[16:40]	schestowitz-TR	it even snitches to it about back doors
[16:40]	schestowitz-TR	I say, ANTI-trust
[16:40]	schestowitz-TR	they basically hijack the terms
[16:40]	schestowitz-TR	LF hijacked end to end
[16:40]	schestowitz-TR	it means surveillance now
[16:40]	schestowitz-TR	they invert connotations if now whole meanings of terms
[16:44]	techrights-news	"Plus RISC-V gets a surprising benefactor, and the kernel feature we never thought would get merged that was just approved by Linus." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/146057/linux-action-news-205/
[16:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Linux Action News 205 | Jupiter Broadcasting
[16:44]	techrights-news	Switching to the i3 window manager http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155330 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[16:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Switching to the i3 window manager | Tux Machines
[16:45]	techrights-news	Wow! What amazing #krita #art https://krita.org/en/item/interview-with-ali-bahabadi/ #kde #iran
[16:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krita.org | Interview with Ali Bahabadi | Krita
[16:45]	schestowitz	MinceR: foxes and cats^
[16:48]	techrights-news	"Customer Empathy Workshop" #ibm #redhat https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/09/06/improving-cicd-red-hat-openshift
[16:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Improving CI/CD in Red Hat OpenShift | Red Hat Developer
[16:50]	techrights-news	#ibm #redhat propping up #gartner which is basically a #fraud (or collective of frauds) https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/9/7-leadership-and-tech-conferences-fall-2021 see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group
[16:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 7 leadership and tech conferences to consider this fall | The Enterprisers Project
[16:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gartner Group - Techrights
[16:51]	techrights-news	Much harm has been done by paid shills or paid-for 'advice' (ads/marketing/spam), leading people towards worse 'solutions' just to extract things from them
[16:58]	techrights-news	Dirk Eddelbuettel: #tidyCpp 0.0.4 on CRAN: Adding a Simple Numeric Vector Class http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2021/09/05#tidycpp_0.0.4
[16:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dirk.eddelbuettel.com | Thinking inside the box
[16:59]	techrights-news	#gimp graphics editor updated to 2.10.26 &raquo; PCLinuxOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151867#comment-30884
[16:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS: Latest Package Updates, Magazine, and Screenshots | Tux Machines
● Sep 06
[17:00]	techrights-news	Your #VGA #monitor may be easier to repair than you think https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/09/06/how-to-repair-vga-monitor-flatron-w1934s/
[17:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Your VGA monitor may be easier to repair than you think - CNX Software
[17:00]	schestowitz-TR	activelow: ^ vga
[17:00]	schestowitz-TR	I still have two vga-compatible screens
[17:00]	schestowitz-TR	many of today's laptops don't support vga without very expensive adapters
[17:07]	techrights-news	the algorithms used by Big Tech are meaningless without enough of the right data to train on. https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/04/would-poisoning-your-data-work/
[17:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Would poisoning YOUR data work? | Stop at Zona-M
[17:09]	techrights-news	Swapnil's site #openwashing #microsoft #proprietarySoftware again. Sigh. This is #linuxfoundation ... total sellout, increasingly a FOE of Linux.
[17:11]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.91   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 52.05 swarm size (avg): 263.16  
[17:13]	techrights-news	#espionage #listeningDevices #surveillance #pentaGAFAM https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/09/hey-google-siri-alexa...-tell-me-how-this-ends/
[17:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Hey Google, Siri, Alexa... tell me how this ends | Stop at Zona-M
[17:15]	techrights-news	#Chrome is a #privacy NIGHTMARE. - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QoLEAMk4PVY you should never run it, except in #pentesting context :-)
[17:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Chrome is a privacy NIGHTMARE. - Invidious
[17:20]	techrights-news	If you know what you are doing and apply patches, then installing some dodgy #proprietarySoftware for 'security' would only worsen things https://linuxiac.com/antivirus-on-linux/
[17:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxiac.com | Antivirus on Linux: Should I Really Use it and if So, When Do I Need it?
[17:29]	techrights-news	OUCH OUCH OUCH. You're just destroyed your #gnu #linux system with worthless and potentially harmful #proprietarySoftware https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/757931/install-mcafee-in-zorin-lite/
[17:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Install Mcafee in Zorin Lite - Linux & Unix
[17:29]	techrights-news	OUCH OUCH OUCH. You've just destroyed your #gnu #linux system with worthless and potentially harmful #proprietarySoftware https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/757931/install-mcafee-in-zorin-lite/
[17:30]	techrights-news	Online Embedded #Linux system development course in new time zones https://bootlin.com/blog/online-embedded-linux-system-development-course-in-new-time-zones/ #kernel
[17:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Online Embedded Linux system development course in new time zones - Bootlin's blog
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[17:33]	techrights-news	#LiveRaizo 12.21.09.05 is out. #debian #gnu #linux -based distro from #france https://sourceforge.net/projects/live-raizo/
[17:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Live Raizo - Linux for Virtual SysAdmin download | SourceForge.net
[17:38]	techrights-news	"In this video, I am going to show an overview of #LinuxLite 5.6 and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=D9eEzmd8LHY #gnu #linux
[17:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How to install Linux Lite 5.6 - Invidious
[17:43]	techrights-news	#OpenRISC sounds interesting but #deletegithub https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OpenRISC-Litex-Ethernet it's #microsoft #proprietarySoftware and an ATTACK on ALL of us. Just yesterday: http://techrights.org/2021/09/05/free-software-number-1-enemy/
[17:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OpenRISC Gets Working Ethernet With LiteX FPGA SoC Setups - Phoronix
[17:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The State of Free Software | Techrights
[17:43]	MinceR	it was a systemd/Linux system and it already had harmful proprietary software in it :>
[17:43]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155331 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[17:44]	schestowitz-TR	MinceR: that's redeemable
[17:44]	schestowitz-TR	some distros still avoid it
[17:44]	MinceR	yeah, with fdisk and/or dd
[17:44]	schestowitz-TR	inc. gentoo and chromeos, based on it
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	either way, ibm is floundering
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	fedora is nearly dead
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	centos will be history
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	gnu/linux will work around it, as always..
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	I can't tell you what it'll gravitate towards
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	but something lighter for sure
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	look where 'smart' phones went
[17:45]	schestowitz-TR	they move in reverse
[17:46]	schestowitz-TR	java is also considered unfit for many things now
[17:46]	schestowitz-TR	it's just too big
[17:46]	schestowitz-TR	rust is a passing fad and cult
[17:46]	schestowitz-TR	BTW, Torvalds has just blasted shithub
[17:47]	MinceR	rust wormed its way into Linux already
[17:47]	schestowitz-TR	maybe he realises it's EEE against his work
[17:47]	schestowitz-TR	MinceR: I think that for now only some modules
[17:47]	schestowitz-TR	which you can remove/cull and compile without
[17:47]	MinceR	which is bad enough
[17:48]	schestowitz-TR	yeah
[17:48]	schestowitz-TR	besieged
[17:48]	schestowitz-TR	google funded rust
[17:48]	schestowitz-TR	microsoft hosts it
[17:48]	schestowitz-TR	amazon "supports" it
[17:48]	schestowitz-TR	mjg59_ also poisoned Linux in other ways
[17:48]	schestowitz-TR	for Red IBM and Google
[17:49]	schestowitz-TR	Google was after they shit-canned him
[17:49]	schestowitz-TR	and he left on his own volition
[17:49]	schestowitz-TR	he got the message
[17:49]	schestowitz-TR	same for Sharp
[17:49]	schestowitz-TR	you can't shit on people and expect them to sweet-talk you
[17:50]	schestowitz-TR	ck is thinking of moving to another kernel
[17:50]	schestowitz-TR	he says linux is too bloated anyway
[17:50]	schestowitz-TR	google makes its own too
[17:50]	schestowitz-TR	but mostly for spying devices
[17:51]	techrights-news	intended
[17:51]	techrights-news	"The Turkish #Patent and #Trademark Office has upheld Red Bull's opposition against an application for a composite mark intended for energy drinks." https://www.mondaq.com/turkey/trademark/1108908/red-bull-triumphs-in-opposition-before-the-turkish-patent-and-trademark-office
[17:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Red Bull Triumphs In Opposition Before The Turkish Patent And Trademark Office - Intellectual Property - Turkey
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● Sep 06
[18:04]	techrights-news	#Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155332 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[18:04]	techrights-news	#Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155333 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[18:06]	DaemonFC	https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/7520849/police-scotland-gaelic-questions-sexuality-hayfever/
[18:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thescottishsun.co.uk | Police Scotland's bizarre survey on Gaelic language push asks the public their sexuality or if they have hay fever
[18:06]	DaemonFC	The US Census for 2020 didn't ask whether you were gay or bisexual or anything. It asked if you were married and whether your spouse was male or female.
[18:07]	DaemonFC	So the only thing that they would be able to gather is what percentage of marriages or to people of the same gender.
[18:08]	DaemonFC	Like they had to ask for legal reasons because same-sex marriage is a legal option, but they really really don't want good statistics on what percentage of the public is gay.
[18:08]	DaemonFC	So now another 10 years will go by where the federal government and conservatives and lawmakers can say it's a small band of perverts,
[18:09]	DaemonFC	It's a different sort of person who gets married vs who doesn't, even now, regardless. It used to be that if someone wasn't married in their 30s it was "suspicious".
[18:10]	DaemonFC	MinceR,  Again that takes us back to conservatives and individualism.
[18:10]	DaemonFC	They're as responsible for ruining the alleged social contract as anyone.
[18:11]	DaemonFC	Once you start thinking "Having kids isn't good for me, so you guys have fun with that!" you start eschewing other "responsibilities and duties", and then they panic that few people get married.
[18:12]	DaemonFC	Panicking and offering straight up cash bribes isn't going to solve anything.
[18:12]	MinceR	i'd expect fascists to go after bisexuals the same way they'd treat homosexuals anyway
[18:12]	MinceR	"they're not like me therefore they must die"
[18:14]	DaemonFC	It's not just LGBT that Christians are panicking about after foisting individualist propaganda on the public from the 1980s onward.
[18:14]	DaemonFC	It's people who don't marry, don't have kids, and single parents.
[18:14]	DaemonFC	Which are the result of the propaganda just as much as the fact that being gay and out of the closet is.
[18:15]	DaemonFC	They opened this whole Pandora's Box of theirs with this Ayn Rand religion they loosed on us as a justification for the tax cuts for the rich and safety net cuts.
[18:15]	DaemonFC	Now the results are in.
[18:16]	DaemonFC	And mom was like "They should just get two jobs." I said, "From where? The Bureau of Labor Statistics, which is the federal government, says there are 6 million fewer job openings than March 2020, and in an economy that needs 3 million more than existed then just to stay level.".
[18:16]	MinceR	(cat) https://ircz.de/p/21081040
[18:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5752326)
[18:16]	DaemonFC	She goes "I don't believe it.".
[18:16]	DaemonFC	"There's hiring signs near me!".
[18:17]	DaemonFC	Like those people who found a snowball today in their town so no global warming.
[18:17]	MinceR	:>
[18:18]	DaemonFC	Mom said "Dollar General is hiring.".
[18:18]	DaemonFC	I said, "Yeah, and I just read an article about why a woman quit Dollar General. She said they were giving people 9 hours a week at $8.75 an hour.".
[18:18]	DaemonFC	"That's about $60 a week after tax.".
[18:21]	DaemonFC	I mean, the only reason to sign up for a lot of these entry level openings, and 9 hours a week counts as an opening in the "jobs report", is so you can go down and apply for medical and food stamps.
[18:22]	DaemonFC	She noted that some of the factories paid over $20 an hour and even gave up on drug testing people and can't find help.
[18:23]	DaemonFC	Instead of exploring all of the possible reasons, she concluded that nobody wanted to work there.
[18:24]	DaemonFC	One of the possible reasons include, off the top of my head, that the high schools are putting out people who can't do basic math, I mean we're talking about addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division, with a diploma.
[18:24]	techrights-news	Links 6/9/2021: Lakka 3.4 and Switching to the i3 THigHT http://techrights.org/2021/09/06/lakka-3-4/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/06/lakka-3-4/
[18:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/9/2021: Lakka 3.4 and Switching to the i3 | Techrights
[18:24]	DaemonFC	Then the employers don't even accept that your diploma means you can do any of that anymore. This has been going on for....a while.
[18:24]	techrights-news	#Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155334 #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[18:24]	DaemonFC	They sit you down in the hiring room and make you do a test to see if you actually know any of the things the state says you had to know in order to get your diploma.
[18:25]	techrights-news	#Kernel: Bootlin, FPGA, ASUS, ZFS, and No to GitHub http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155335 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Bootlin, FPGA, ASUS, ZFS, and No to GitHub | Tux Machines
[18:25]	techrights-news	Audiocasts/Shows: Linux Action News, Chrome Bad, GitHub Also Bad http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155336 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Linux Action News, Chrome Bad, GitHub Also Bad | Tux Machines
[18:25]	techrights-news	Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155337 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[18:26]	DaemonFC	MinceR, I even had one of them put me on a scale to see how much I weighed, back in 2004.
[18:26]	DaemonFC	Maybe next they'll want to check your teeth.
[18:27]	DaemonFC	"The dignity of work!" -Republicans
[18:28]	DaemonFC	We both know that there are people who are overweight who would do fine there because they move from one bin to the next getting their stuff, and people who weigh "the right amount" who will spend their entire shift goofing off.
[18:28]	DaemonFC	I don't see how weighing people is even legal under the ADA.
[18:29]	DaemonFC	There's no part about the hiring process that screams dignity to me.
[18:30]	DaemonFC	First they comb over your court records without caring if there's a perfectly good explanation. Then they make you pee in a bottle, assuming everyone is addicted to drugs. Then you get weighed. Then they go "Okay stupid, let's see if you really should have passed 4th grade.".
[18:32]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Carlin said the politicians should run on one promise. "Good luck. You're on your own!".
[18:33]	DaemonFC	Now mom's worried about all of the Afghans that are being dumped in Indiana and if they have Polio.
[18:34]	DaemonFC	MinceR, I hope my bungholio does not get Polio! -Beavis (Cornholio)
[18:35]	DaemonFC	After panicking about immigrants because of what religion they might be, the conservative moves on to whether they're "diseased".
[18:36]	MinceR	lol
[18:36]	DaemonFC	"I don't want them bringing their vile disgusting religion here! We got here first!"
[18:37]	DaemonFC	"You know, you're lucky it's us too, because we're not cutting your clitoris off!"
[18:37]	DaemonFC	"Pray we do not alter the deal further!"
[18:42]	activelow	4th grade division isn't as trivial
[18:42]	DaemonFC	The conservatives, who are overflowing every hospital in the country right now with a plague, that is preventable with a vaccine....
[18:42]	activelow	DaemonFC: divide this 11/13 without a calculator
[18:42]	DaemonFC	Are worried that someone may bring a vaccine-preventable disease.
[18:42]	DaemonFC	<activelow> DaemonFC: divide this 11/13 without a calculator
[18:42]	DaemonFC	That's the thing.
[18:43]	activelow	tbh i had to check for myself
[18:43]	DaemonFC	They let you use a calculator and the people don't know how to use a calculator.
[18:43]	DaemonFC	0.846 to the third place without rounding. 0.85 rounded.
[18:44]	activelow	0.9, anyway
[18:44]	DaemonFC	If you want to round it further, sure.
[18:44]	DaemonFC	Depends on how accurate you need to be. :)
[18:44]	MinceR	pray i do not round it any further.
[18:44]	activelow	zero modulo 13
[18:44]	DaemonFC	If you want to round it more, it's 1.
[18:44]	DaemonFC	;)
[18:45]		*activelow wished he could clear his mind and relax
[18:45]	activelow	to continue hacking
[18:46]	activelow	instead of being molested by a court
[18:46]	DaemonFC	I downloaded the greatest hits of Alicia Bridges. Still, the only thing on there that's any good is I Love the Nightlife.
[18:46]	DaemonFC	Apparently, she sodl millions of records based on that and then had two full albums that flopped.
[18:47]	activelow	and the other one which got me of track again, was some human resources department who asked for proceeding with my application after 4 years of nothing done about it
[18:47]	DaemonFC	MinceR, Wikipedia says she had an imposter that she had to testify against in court.
[18:47]	activelow	sorry
[18:48]		*activelow shuts up
[18:48]	DaemonFC	Judge: How do you plead?
[18:48]	DaemonFC	Imposter: "I'm the victim!"
[18:50]	MinceR	:)
[18:55]	DaemonFC	MinceR, Sometimes when there's only one good song on an entire CD, I just trim it down to that to save space.
[18:55]	DaemonFC	You don't waste space on crap in lossless.
● Sep 06
[19:06]	MinceR	https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/comicstarlol2.png   ( https://explosm.net/comics/1172/ )
[19:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net)
[19:16]	techrights-news	This board is rigged and #ForwardPharma wrongly assumes that European #Patents are still legitimate as before https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/09/06/2291995/0/en/Forward-Pharma-Announces-the-Decision-of-the-Technical-Board-of-Appeal-of-the-European-Patent-Office-in-the-EP2801355-Appeal-Hearing.html see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/
[19:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Forward Pharma Announces the Decision of the Technical
[19:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights
[19:18]	techrights-news	Old: #ForwardPharma an Example of the Devastating Effect of Granting Patents in Error A Problem Appeal Boards Must Correct https://techrights.org/2018/05/08/when-granting-patents-in-error-forward-pharma-and-boa-ptab/
[19:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Forward Pharma an Example of the Devastating Effect of Granting Patents in Error A Problem Appeal Boards Must Correct | Techrights
[19:20]	DaemonFC	"Trump's marriage isn't so much a marriage as an arrangement.".
[19:20]	schestowitz-TR	whose?
[19:20]	DaemonFC	That's what happens when you're rich and married. You always get to look over your shoulder for a knife in the back.
[19:20]	schestowitz-TR	it's cheaper thanm "hush money" 365 times per year
[19:23]	MinceR	06 155450 < techrights-news> Tuxedo Stellaris: The Meanest Laptop Money Can Buy https://boilingsteam.com/tuxedo-stellaris-the-meanest-laptop-money-can-buy/ #gnu #linux preloaded
[19:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Tuxedo Stellaris: The Meanest Laptop Money Can Buy - Boiling Steam
[19:23]	MinceR	While Tuxedo confirmed to me Tuxedo OS is open-source, the source code is not publicly available. They told me this:
[19:23]	MinceR	Currently TUXEDO OS is only accessible to developers but we would like to put the data on GitHub in the medium term.
[19:23]	MinceR	they have an interesting idea of what "open source" means.
[19:23]	schestowitz-TR	I just did a video about shithub
[19:24]	schestowitz-TR	but it's still transcoding, will initiate upload in parallel soon
[19:24]	schestowitz-TR	also menions tuxera
[19:24]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Tuxera
[19:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Tuxera - Techrights
[19:28]	activelow	remind me when microsoft supports log structured filesystem (NILFS2) and ext4 natively
[19:28]	activelow	filesystem interoperability is horror
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[19:37]	psydruid	https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53ri0m/warning_microsoft_signature_pc_program_now/
[19:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-old.reddit.com | Warning: Microsoft Signature PC program now requires that you can't run Linux. Lenovo's recent Ultrabooks among affected systems. : linux
[19:37]	psydruid	I stumbled upon this yesterday
[19:37]	MinceR	lol
[19:38]	MinceR	oh, i've seen this and forgot about it
[19:40]	MinceR	oh, it's about the fake RAID mode
[19:40]	psydruid	and that was because I found this first
[19:40]	psydruid	https://tweakers.net/nieuws/115933/lenovo-ontkent-opzettelijk-installatie-van-linux-op-zijn-computers-te-blokkeren.html
[19:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tweakers.net | Lenovo ontkent opzettelijk installatie van Linux op zijn computers te blokkeren - Computer - Nieuws - Tweakers
[19:40]	psydruid	one guy there really hates DaemonFC's guts
[19:40]	psydruid	yes
[19:41]	psydruid	my uncle returned 2 Lenovo laptops because we couldn't get any Linux distribution running on them
[19:42]	psydruid	so I've definitely experienced it too
[19:43]	DaemonFC	"Let me make my position clear, that Lenovo is lying through their teeth just like they did with Superfish malware incident. They lied until they couldn't lie anymore. Linux should not have to support the RAID mode because the mode should be able to be changed to AHCI, which is fully compatible with Linux, by the user in about 20 seconds."
[19:44]	DaemonFC	And that's exactly how the BIOS update to the Windows model of the laptop I'm on now supports Linux.
[19:44]	DaemonFC	The Windows model shipped with no Linux support and they bumped the BIOS a month later to allow "Ubuntu compatibility".
[19:44]	DaemonFC	It's in the release notes, though I doubt you can find them now because they release BIOS updates so often.
[19:45]	DaemonFC	They can't reliably pick a lane as to how bright each brightness setting should be or how your function keys should work (one update reversed what happens when you hold Fn down), or how bright your keyboard backlight should be, and they claim that they fixed at least two dozen CVEs along the way.
[19:45]	DaemonFC	It's a complete mess.
[19:47]	techrights-news	#MicrosoftLovesLinux https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/53ri0m/warning_microsoft_signature_pc_program_now/ #Microsoft = criminals. Arrest the executives already. Before they bribe all heads of state. http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/
[19:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and Slush Funds | Techrights
[19:48]	schestowitz	psydruid: lenovo is afraid of DaemonFC
[19:48]	schestowitz	he caused them hundreds of millions in damages around 2016
[19:48]	Ariadne	how
[19:48]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2016/10/02/lenovo-forums-censorship/
[19:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: Lenovo Forums Possibly Banned All Comcast Users in Illinois in Order to Silence Discussion of Linux on Yoga Problems | Techrights
[19:48]	schestowitz	Ariadne: like 100 bad articles about their PCs
[19:49]	Ariadne	haha
[19:49]	schestowitz	they have improved since
[19:49]	DaemonFC	They definitely don't like me. I doubt they like me anymore now that I was blogging about how one of their high end laptops had a USB-C port fail at 9 months old and their firmware updates bricked Windows.
[19:49]	schestowitz	they're top OEM now
[19:49]	DaemonFC	They're too incompetent to reliabily test their own firmwares, I guess.
[19:49]	MinceR	have they?
[19:49]	DaemonFC	With the "supported" OS.
[19:49]	Ariadne	well, linux NVMe support (like NVMe support at large) was indeed crap in 2016
[19:49]	Ariadne	these days, its pretty good
[19:49]	Ariadne	schestowitz: i need information about microsoft's patent laundering
[19:50]	MinceR	the last time i dared to buy a new ThinkPad, it still had a shitty TrackPoint that likes to go on long hikes
[19:50]	schestowitz	what does this term mean, Ariadne
[19:50]	schestowitz	I am doing an article related to this now
[19:50]	MinceR	(X270)
[19:50]	schestowitz	the file system thing
[19:50]	DaemonFC	Ariadne, Exactly after Lenovo updated their BIOS for that issue, Intel released a description and code about how that worked.
[19:50]	Ariadne	schestowitz: how microsoft lends out their unused patents to shell companies to make a buck through trolling
[19:50]	DaemonFC	mjg59_ even admitted that Intel had been hiding it under NDAs for over a year and a half at that point.
[19:50]	schestowitz	Ariadne: many examples of it
[19:50]	DaemonFC	Then immediately after the spat with Lenovo, they released it to the Linux kernel mailing list.
[19:50]	DaemonFC	Right?
[19:50]	DaemonFC	Coincidence?
[19:51]	schestowitz	e.g. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Finjan
[19:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Finjan - Techrights
[19:51]	Ariadne	yep
[19:51]	schestowitz	IBM gives them patents as well
[19:51]	schestowitz	also http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/MOSAID
[19:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | MOSAID - Techrights
[19:51]	schestowitz	now it is renamed
[19:51]	MinceR	the chiclet ThinkPad keyboard is also far inferior to the one on the X60s
[19:52]	schestowitz	I hate HP keyboards
[19:52]	DaemonFC	According to Intel, Apple was pushing for that specification.
[19:52]	schestowitz	they failed me 4 times in a row
[19:52]	schestowitz	HP asked me to delete tweets
[19:52]	DaemonFC	So Apple polluted x86 and then abandoned Intel a few years later.
[19:52]	schestowitz	not for being wrong
[19:52]	DaemonFC	But the damage was done.
[19:53]	schestowitz	they would offer help if I self-censored http://techrights.org/2021/07/02/hp-censorship/
[19:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | HP Products Are Faulty and They Try to Censor Evidence of the Defects | Techrights
[19:54]	DaemonFC	I hate wearing glasses.
[19:54]	techrights-news	" #IBM offered me a $40k retention bonus several years ago, with the condition of me staying 2 years. After 12 months, I quit for a new job and they never came after the bonus. In previous years they had already given me stock, which vested and i cashed out." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cGUAr3t#replies
[19:54]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | My coworker has been given almost six figures not to quit within the next 12 months - post regarding IBM layoffs
[19:54]	DaemonFC	You take them off and read, you get a headache. You put them on and then you see all of the crud and have to go clean them.
[19:54]	DaemonFC	I might go get the laser surgery at some point.
[19:55]	schestowitz-TR	with masks glasses are annoying
[19:55]	schestowitz-TR	they get all steamy
[19:55]	DaemonFC	Extremely.
[19:55]	DaemonFC	Thought about wearing those fake masks to get around the mandate.
[19:55]	DaemonFC	I have some.
[19:55]	schestowitz-TR	last time shopping it felt like underwater maintainance
[19:55]	schestowitz-TR	because I had sunglasses on with two masks
[19:55]	MinceR	masks with an exhalation valve and very good seal don't get glasses nearly as steamy
[19:55]	DaemonFC	They're just a mesh that lets everything through, but it looks like you are wearing a mask.
[19:56]	schestowitz-TR	I could barely see what I was buying
[19:56]	MinceR	but they'ree not that easy to find
[19:56]	MinceR	s/ee/e/
[19:56]	DaemonFC	MinceR, Plus, if you go into the Health department, they make you take them off.
[19:56]	MinceR	lol
[19:56]	DaemonFC	They protect you, but they don't protect anyone from you.
[19:57]	activelow	to prepare for the worst, gnu/linux should think of some FPGA deployments and adapt their resource requirements accordingly
[19:57]	activelow	meaning, FPGA boards typically offer alot less resources, maybe 256MiB RAM, single core clocked at 100MHz and similar
[19:58]	schestowitz-TR	there are program for that
[19:58]	schestowitz-TR	telescope (gemini) needs 1-2mb of ram
[19:58]	schestowitz-TR	some irc clients are less
[19:58]	schestowitz-TR	ii is like nothing....
[19:58]	schestowitz-TR	haha, 0.1mb of ram
[19:58]	schestowitz-TR	on my system
[19:58]	schestowitz-TR	irc client in 100kb of ram
[19:59]	activelow	have fun with gcc compiler on such a board
[19:59]	activelow	this isn't some idealism which made me think
● Sep 06
[20:00]	schestowitz-TR	you want to also compiled your system on your system?
[20:00]	schestowitz-TR	on a raspi nobody does that
[20:00]	activelow	of cause
[20:00]	schestowitz-TR	there are many pi ISOs
[20:00]	activelow	why would i want gnu/linux if i cannot work from source?
[20:00]	schestowitz-TR	speed
[20:01]	schestowitz-TR	apt-get is faster
[20:01]	schestowitz-TR	I recently installed rsync on alpine
[20:01]	schestowitz-TR	apk get was so fast I could not believe it
[20:01]		*techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights
[20:01]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.30   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 59.76 swarm size (avg): 263.15  
[20:01]	schestowitz-TR	like 1 second
[20:02]	schestowitz-TR	*apk add
[20:02]	DaemonFC	Mom was wearing an N95 with a vent on it on the plane to Georgia.
[20:02]	schestowitz	apk add openssh was less than 5 seconds
[20:02]	DaemonFC	So if she did have COVID, it would have been going through the cabin air, unfiltered.
[20:03]	DaemonFC	But the mask would prevent her from breathing it if someone else had it.
[20:03]	schestowitz	flights are so disgusting now
[20:03]	schestowitz	people touch you
[20:03]	DaemonFC	I'm not getting on a plane, Roy.
[20:03]	schestowitz	sitting in the same vessels for 5 hours
[20:03]	DaemonFC	The trains are where it's at as far as I'm concerned.
[20:03]	schestowitz	no reason to fly unless you are a sadist :-)
[20:04]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: rianne wants to book a train one year in advance
[20:04]	schestowitz	she wrongly thinks it'll ensure more distance
[20:04]	schestowitz	she asked yesterday
[20:04]	DaemonFC	The train can get you from Chicago to New York overnight for $39 sometimes, Roy.
[20:04]	DaemonFC	If you book far enough ahead and it's off peak season.
[20:04]	schestowitz	good
[20:04]	schestowitz	but...
[20:04]	schestowitz	new york
[20:04]	schestowitz	? 
[20:04]	schestowitz	\come on
[20:05]	DaemonFC	I mean, why do you need to pay $200 to get there in 2 hours (plus two for screening and then get exposed to COVID the whole trip)?
[20:05]	DaemonFC	It was just an example.
[20:05]	schestowitz	trains have better spacing
[20:05]	DaemonFC	I'd rather just take an overnight train to New York if I had to be there. Get a nap in my seat, then get some coffee and a bagel and get going when I arrived.
[20:05]	schestowitz	but not enough
[20:06]	DaemonFC	They are a pretty rough ride sometimes.
[20:06]	DaemonFC	The ones Amtrak uses are shared with a lot of freight trains.
[20:06]	schestowitz	I saw those in FL
[20:06]	schestowitz	funny how they have trains for cargo
[20:07]	schestowitz	but barely for people
[20:07]	schestowitz	because the industry lobbies
[20:07]	schestowitz	it also lobbied against EVs for decades
[20:07]	schestowitz	American buses look like trucks
[20:07]	DaemonFC	Yeah, until people found loopholes and bought EVs anyway.
[20:07]	schestowitz	school jeepneys
[20:09]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Mom was talking about her friend in North Carolina who was spending irresponsibly and teetering on bankruptcy.
[20:09]	DaemonFC	We were talking about how there are exceptions to every rule. 
[20:10]	DaemonFC	She married this man who had a huge amount of money sitting in his savings account and she passed the stack of unpaid bills over after they got married and he sent out checks and then had her cut up her cards and call to cancel them.
[20:10]	DaemonFC	Then her kids came in and started wanting a bunch of Apple garbage.
[20:10]	DaemonFC	He said, "There's a new sheriff in town, boys!".
[20:13]	DaemonFC	They're still married and it's been like 15 years or something now. Maybe longer.
[20:13]	DaemonFC	No more debt since then.
[20:14]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, I was talking to the guy at the T-Mobile store. He asked why I had overpaid to get an account credit. I said, "Well, two reasons. I like to make sure I don't need to worry about bills for a while and I was getting some extra credit card points before my Discover Card double points for your first year promo ends.".
[20:15]	DaemonFC	He's like "That's not how you build credit though. They don't care if you have a credit on your phone account.".
[20:15]	DaemonFC	I said, "Actually, Discover does like when you run large transactions through your cards. Most people who get approved for higher limits were using what the company already gave them at least occasionally. They turn down people who don't. Higher limits do raise your credit scores.".
[20:16]	DaemonFC	"On the other hand, account reviews go over people who have a large limit and never use anything close to it, and you could see your limit cut.".
[20:17]	DaemonFC	"They don't tell you they're doing an account review. It's usually not even a person who does them. It's a computer program.".
[20:17]	schestowitz-TR	seems we veered off-topic
[20:17]	schestowitz-TR	brb
[20:17]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: can you proof-read?
[20:17]	DaemonFC	Eh, like it's any of his business why I overpaid.
[20:17]	schestowitz-TR	I wrote about Torvalds
[20:18]		*activelow is curious
[20:18]	DaemonFC	If I left $900 in my savings account, it would have only earned like 50 cents in a year.
[20:18]	schestowitz-TR	activelow: can you check?
[20:18]	schestowitz-TR	the video is still uploading
[20:18]	activelow	sure
[20:18]	DaemonFC	If you do it while Discover has double points, it earns an additional $9, for a total of $18.
[20:18]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2021/09/06/linux-and-git-eee/
[20:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linus Torvalds Fights Back Against Microsofts Latest Attempt to Hijack His Projects or Kidnap His Babies (Linux and Git) | Techrights
[20:18]	schestowitz	video halfway through
[20:18]		*activelow didn't watch any video for a while
[20:19]	activelow	reading
[20:19]	DaemonFC	I might overpay for our internet for a while using Mandy's card. Same reason.
[20:19]	schestowitz	I will add mr5sum when it's done encoding and uploading (it does that in parallel to save time)
[20:19]	DaemonFC	Reading now.
[20:19]	schestowitz	*md5
[20:20]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, I was writing up a list of reasons not to use Apple Lossless.
[20:20]	activelow	doubel type "at the time time"
[20:20]	DaemonFC	It annoys me to find those files. It's not that you can't convert them, it's that there's no way to know if they were corrupt at the time of ripping.
[20:20]	DaemonFC	Bittorrent helps, in that they won't be further corrupted after it hashes them, at least not within the swarm.
[20:20]	XRevan86	gustaf: https://nitter.eu/_BalthazarBratt/status/1434958444981796871 enlighten this person :)
[20:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Ori (@_BalthazarBratt): "So now that Freenode is gone, where do people hang out these days?" | nitter
[20:21]	DaemonFC	If they are, then it will reject those bits that got corrupted later from that seed.
[20:21]	DaemonFC	But FLAC and WavPack protect your data. Apple Lossless doesn't.
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[20:21]	DaemonFC	If you have a backup, and you ask FLAC or WavPack to do an integrity check, you know which files must be deleted and which to restore from a backup.
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[20:22]	DaemonFC	"at the time time"
[20:22]	DaemonFC	same time
[20:22]	activelow	schestowitz-TR: none other typo spotted
[20:22]	activelow	no
[20:22]	schestowitz-TR	thanks
[20:22]	schestowitz-TR	I will generate gemini page
[20:23]	DaemonFC	"highlighs "
[20:23]	DaemonFC	highlights
[20:24]	DaemonFC	I usually don't put on automatic spelling and grammar check on my word processor.
[20:24]	schestowitz-TR	it can trigger false positives
[20:24]	schestowitz-TR	which then distract you
[20:24]	DaemonFC	Yeah, sometimes I post and then go back later on and correct a typo.
[20:24]	schestowitz-TR	and you're not even sure if it it time-wasting or you are being a fool
[20:25]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: I don't mind typos in social control media
[20:25]	DaemonFC	Microsoft Office introduced automatic corrections in Office 97, I think.
[20:25]	schestowitz-TR	I ignore them even if I spot them seconds later
[20:25]	schestowitz-TR	as you need to delete and repost
[20:25]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: the android one is terribel
[20:25]	schestowitz-TR	I tried it at the gym
[20:25]	DaemonFC	It really made me upset, because it wasn't always correct and your teacher would ding you for things that the stupid office program did. Maybe you didn't notice.
[20:25]	schestowitz-TR	it does more harm than good sometimes and it can confuse or offend
[20:29]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, The stupid setup instructions for this T-Mobile trashcan modem (Nokia) don't go into particulars about how to optimize your connection and check for specific signal levels.
[20:30]	DaemonFC	I figured out how to get it to tell me the raw numbers and for both 4G LTE and 5G signals. It connects to both, apparently.
[20:30]	DaemonFC	I found I get the best throughput by making sure the "secondary" signal, which is 5G, is the stronger of the two, so I placed the modem where it doesn't even have the option to connect to 4G, but the 5G signal is quite good.
[20:31]	techrights-news	As #China woos the Taliban, #Uyghurs in #Afghanistan fear for their lives - CNN https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/04/asia/uyghur-afghanistan-taliban-china-intl-hnk-dst/index.html
[20:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | As China woos the Taliban, Uyghurs in Afghanistan fear for their lives - CNN
[20:31]	DaemonFC	Then once you point it like that and use some tinfoil to make sure the 4G signal is unusable, it's really fast.
[20:31]	DaemonFC	I'm currently BitTorrenting at 6 MB/second up from like 1 when the 4G signal was coming through as well.
[20:32]	DaemonFC	So it has some sort of dual antenna system in there and prefers the 4G signal if it's coming in stronger, even though it has less bandwidth.
[20:32]	DaemonFC	But you can trick it up with some tinfoil to where it can't lock on with the 4G signal at all.
[20:32]	techrights-news	Hunted by the men they jailed, Afghanistan's women judges seek escape https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/hunted-by-men-they-jailed-afghanistans-women-judges-seek-escape-2021-09-03/
[20:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hunted by the men they jailed, Afghanistan's women judges seek escape | Reuters
[20:35]	techrights-news	#Finnix 123 released https://www.finnix.org/Finnix_123_release_notes #gnu #linux
[20:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.finnix.org | Finnix 123 release notes
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[20:38]	techrights-news	"People from disprivileged groups were particularly likely to die in and near New York City from Hurricane Ida's flooding, because the shortage of housing had pushed them into living in basements that were not safe." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#6_September_2021_%28Likely_to_die%29
[20:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman
[20:39]	activelow	mobile phone data is transmitted over a "shared medium", and dedicating a single recepient, unicast, 6MiB/s is insane
[20:40]		*DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@jmjz89yq3iakg.irc) has joined #techrights
[20:41]	activelow	DaemonFC: on-demand fullhd video streaming is *insane* too, high-bandwidth unicast again, instead of broadcasting which is sufficient for most 
[20:41]	activelow	mobile phone data is transmitted over a "shared medium", and dedicating a single recepient, unicast, 6MiB/s is insane
[20:41]	techrights-news	" #pgBadger is a PostgreSQL performance analyzer, built for speed with fully detailed reports based on your PostgreSQL log files." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgbadger-v116-released-2295/
[20:41]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: pgBadger v11.6 released
[20:45]	techrights-news	"Hello everyone! Its officially the end of my Outreachy internship. I cant believe this is the last blog post I am writing on it. It seems like yesterday, when I received the selection mail and was about to begin my journey as an #Outreachy intern with the GNOME organisation." https://veenanagar.wordpress.com/2021/09/06/my-outreachy-journey/
[20:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-veenanagar.wordpress.com | Wrap-up: All about my Outreachy journey Veena Nagar
[20:46]	techrights-news	#HP Linux Imaging and Printing (HPLIP) Drivers Now Support Linux Mint 20.2 and RHEL 8.4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155338 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | HP Linux Imaging and Printing (HPLIP) Drivers Now Support Linux Mint 20.2 and RHEL 8.4 | Tux Machines
[20:46]	techrights-news	#Finnix 123 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155339 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Finnix 123 released | Tux Machines
[20:46]	techrights-news	#PostgreSQL News and Releases http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155340 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PostgreSQL News and Releases | Tux Machines
[20:46]	activelow	4G VoLTE is insane too, transporting realtime voice calls via packet switched networking
[20:46]	activelow	this is what happens when international telco management is absent or paid zero
[20:47]	activelow	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_over_LTE
[20:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Voice over LTE - Wikipedia
[20:47]	schestowitz-TR	true
[20:47]	schestowitz-TR	all this G thing? Not interested..
[20:47]	schestowitz-TR	overpriced, patented like hell..
[20:47]	schestowitz-TR	typically tied to devices that track people
[20:48]	schestowitz-TR	they overcomplicate it for patent evergreening
[20:48]	schestowitz-TR	making it sound more sophisticated than it is
[20:48]	activelow	it is horrible design choices, all of it: fullhd video streaming, 6MiB/s data rate over mobile radio shared medium, VoLTE
[20:48]	schestowitz-TR	same thing frauhofer did with mp3
[20:48]	activelow	not the same, anyway
[20:49]	schestowitz-TR	made it intentionally more messy for more software patents
[20:50]	activelow	only remember some telco lectures, analog electronics, ad sampling, signal processing
[20:50]	activelow	mp3 is a separate issue
[20:51]	activelow	gladly, i'll not have to take any responsibility anymore, when telco collapses with the nonsense introduced in recent decade
[20:52]	techrights-news	"Bills laptop is in computer hospital. Our listeners have suggestions, answers, and feedback on Office file formats, running Wine and Crossover, using AppImages, gaming on Linux and more." https://goinglinux.com/shownotes.html#glp412
[20:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-goinglinux.com | Going Linux Shownotes
[20:52]	activelow	difference to "legacy" "retro" "vintage" systems will be this, modern tech isn't reproducible anymore from documentation, schematics etc.
[20:52]	activelow	after another decade or two
[20:52]	DaemonFC	The modem has a phone number.
[20:53]	DaemonFC	But when I call it, it says that this service is restricted.
[20:53]	techrights-news	Study about the impact of free/libre software and hardware on technological independence, competitiveness and innovation in the #EU economy http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155341 stained a little by the entities behind this report, #swpats boosters
[20:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Study about the impact of open source software and hardware on technological independence, competitiveness and innovation in the EU economy | Tux Machines
[20:56]	techrights-news	#antiX 21-beta2 iso files available. ( #Debian 11 based) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155342 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | antiX-21-beta2 iso files available. (Debian 11 based) | Tux Machines
[20:56]	DaemonFC	https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2021/09/06/global-markets-and-wall-street-futures-rose-amid-weak-u-s-jobs-report/5747227001/
[20:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usatoday.com | Global markets and Wall Street futures rose amid weak U.S. jobs report
[20:56]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, Horrible jobs report, Wall Street gains.
[20:57]	schestowitz-TR	fake unemployment rates again?
[20:57]	schestowitz-TR	ryan, let me tell you
[20:57]	schestowitz-TR	only 6% don't work
[20:57]	schestowitz-TR	and it's because they're lazy :-)
[20:57]	schestowitz-TR	94% of people work for a living ;-)
[20:57]	schestowitz-TR	even women
[20:57]	schestowitz-TR	"weak jobs report" = 'only' 93% work
[20:57]	DaemonFC	I keep looking for a reason to move Mandy's 401(k) money into a bonds fund, but I don't see one right now.
[20:57]	schestowitz-TR	back on planet earth ;) however...
[20:58]	DaemonFC	Corporate profits are high, even during a disaster, because they're the only ones getting bailed out without the media bashing it or drawing attention.
[20:58]	schestowitz-TR	yeah
[20:58]	schestowitz-TR	pentagon budget up further
[20:58]	schestowitz-TR	more grifting money
[20:58]	schestowitz-TR	not for small mom and pop stores
[20:59]	schestowitz-TR	[20:39] <techrights-news> Bezos Post writing about #Bezos https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/09/05/space-finance-bubble-investors/ #corruptmedia #corporateMedia #oligarchy #puffpieces
[20:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Elon, Bezos, Branson are driving investment in rocket companies - The Washington Post
[20:59]	DaemonFC	You'd have to be nuts to fight this "earnings boost" even though it's undoubtedly immoral, if you do have any investment money.
[20:59]	schestowitz-TR	the insider traders win
[20:59]	schestowitz-TR	at the expense of the rest
[20:59]	schestowitz-TR	it's all rigged
● Sep 06
[21:00]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: 22,000,000,000 for hololens
[21:00]	schestowitz-TR	whose entire staff microsoft laid off
[21:00]	schestowitz-TR	but pentagon... something
[21:00]	schestowitz-TR	thank you, mr. biden
[21:00]	DaemonFC	https://www.marketwatch.com/articles/stock-market-bubble-51630713044?mod=mw_quote_news
[21:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is the Stock Market in a Bubble? Dont Bet on It. - MarketWatch
[21:00]	schestowitz-TR	 22,000,000,000 US dollars
[21:01]	DaemonFC	"That just about no jobs were created in the leisure and hospitality industry indicated that the Covid-19 Delta variant might have been a bit of a problem."
[21:01]	schestowitz-TR	Trump tried to give them 10,000,000,000 dollars
[21:01]	DaemonFC	The Delta variant is "a bit of a problem".
[21:01]	schestowitz-TR	a court challenge helped overturn it
[21:01]	DaemonFC	We're going to be in total lockdown again in three months.
[21:01]	DaemonFC	But it's a "bit of a problem".
[21:01]	schestowitz-TR	more than 3
[21:01]	schestowitz-TR	here also
[21:01]	schestowitz-TR	rianne and I talked about it
[21:01]	schestowitz-TR	it's just a matter of when
[21:01]	schestowitz-TR	I said late Oct.
[21:01]	schestowitz-TR	now they push "passports"
[21:01]	schestowitz-TR	for more places
[21:02]	schestowitz-TR	so that later they can blame lockdowns on the unvaccinated
[21:02]	schestowitz-TR	except kids
[21:02]	schestowitz-TR	and except the vaccinated who are still superspreaders
[21:02]	schestowitz-TR	party animals without masks
[21:02]	DaemonFC	So far in Illinois it's been no proof of vaccination needed to do anything, except Lollapolooza and then the vaccine cards were not inspected properly.
[21:02]	schestowitz-TR	42+ thousand news cases here today alone
[21:02]	DaemonFC	You just waved something that looked like one and they let you through.
[21:02]	DaemonFC	Security Theater
[21:03]	schestowitz-TR	it's not of use
[21:03]	DaemonFC	It made people feel safer about going.
[21:03]	schestowitz-TR	those passports are not test results
[21:03]	schestowitz-TR	tests matter
[21:03]	schestowitz-TR	not vaccination status
[21:03]	DaemonFC	Whether it actually was safer or not.
[21:03]	schestowitz-TR	vaccination = chance I will die for coming here
[21:03]	schestowitz-TR	test result = change I will pass it to someone
[21:03]	schestowitz-TR	for night clubs, the concern should be the dissemination
[21:04]	schestowitz-TR	you won't hold them legally accountable anyway
[21:04]	DaemonFC	It says my insurance was billed $20.50 for the COVID test.
[21:04]	schestowitz-TR	if you didn't take some jabs and died 2 weeks later on a respirator
[21:04]	DaemonFC	Approved $20.50. I may be billed $0.
[21:04]	schestowitz-TR	antibody?
[21:04]	schestowitz-TR	or just worthless pcr?
[21:04]	DaemonFC	Original was $39.
[21:05]	DaemonFC	So it discounted it to $20.50 as the contractual amount and paid that.
[21:05]	schestowitz-TR	the latter is only of use if you feel unwell or travel
[21:05]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz-TR> or just worthless pcr?
[21:05]	DaemonFC	The swab test.
[21:05]	schestowitz-TR	haha
[21:05]	schestowitz-TR	not even useful for much
[21:05]	schestowitz-TR	and they make a killing
[21:05]	schestowitz-TR	my friend who is a lecturer laughs at those
[21:05]	schestowitz-TR	he did many of those tests
[21:05]	schestowitz-TR	they make billions from travellers
[21:05]	DaemonFC	Then for the third dose of vaccine we have this:
[21:05]	DaemonFC	" Immunization administration by intramuscular injection of severe acute respiratory syndrome"
[21:05]	schestowitz-TR	testing them even when there is no need to
[21:06]	DaemonFC	Amount Charged $56.99
[21:06]	schestowitz-TR	as they qurantine regardless
[21:06]	DaemonFC	Approved $42.01
[21:06]	DaemonFC	 You May Be Billed $0.00 
[21:06]	schestowitz-TR	patents
[21:06]	schestowitz-TR	you paid patent tax
[21:06]	schestowitz-TR	I spoke to an assoc about it today
[21:06]	schestowitz-TR	how the media distracts from the patent ripoff in all this
[21:07]	schestowitz-TR	and plays off the 'anti-vaxx" slur
[21:07]	DaemonFC	So they paid for a third dose even though they warned not to do it yet.
[21:07]	schestowitz-TR	helps distract from the patents
[21:07]	DaemonFC	Whatever, I guess.
[21:08]	schestowitz-TR	upload of video completed.
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[21:08]	DaemonFC	Then there's the labs for my psychiatric meds.
[21:08]	DaemonFC	Total Amount Charged 
[21:08]	DaemonFC	$419.27
[21:08]	schestowitz-TR	wow
[21:09]	DaemonFC	Approved
[21:09]	DaemonFC	 $48.26 
[21:09]	schestowitz-TR	ripoff
[21:09]	DaemonFC	Total Amount You May be Billed
[21:09]	schestowitz-TR	come to europe
[21:09]	DaemonFC	$0.00 
[21:09]	schestowitz-TR	we pay a lot less
[21:09]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: no wonder the wealth disparity grows so rapidly
[21:09]	schestowitz-TR	it's by design
[21:09]	schestowitz-TR	and people stopped rebelling
[21:09]	DaemonFC	My Zoom meeting with the psychiatrist cost me $106.74 after insurance.
[21:09]	schestowitz-TR	you have a 'vassal class'
[21:10]	DaemonFC	But that's because I hadn't met my outpatient deductible for the year.
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[21:10]	techrights-news	#Finnix 123 Linux Distro for System Administrators Is Out Based on Debian Bullseye http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155343 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[21:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Finnix 123 Linux Distro for System Administrators Is Out Based on Debian Bullseye | Tux Machines
[21:11]	DaemonFC	That's weird.
[21:11]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, If you get the COVID vaccine at Walgreens, they pay them only $16.
[21:11]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.26   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 97.75 swarm size (avg): 263.12  
[21:11]	DaemonFC	But they pay CVS $42.
[21:12]	techrights-news	#LinusTorvalds Fights Back Against Microsofts Latest Attempt to Hijack His Projects or Kidnap His Babies (Linux and Git) THigHT http://techrights.org/2021/09/06/linux-and-git-eee/ #Techrights #Git #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/06/linux-and-git-eee/
[21:12]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linus Torvalds Fights Back Against Microsofts Latest Attempt to Hijack His Projects or Kidnap His Babies (Linux and Git) | Techrights
[21:17]	DaemonFC	https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/06/politics/pandemic-unemployment-benefits-end/index.html
[21:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Unemployment benefits: Jobless Americans left scrambling after pandemic benefits end - CNNPolitics
[21:17]	DaemonFC	The news did interview quite a few that said they weren't even looking because they were taking vacations and kayaking and stuff.
[21:17]	DaemonFC	I sort of wondered how many would wait for the end and then panic.
[21:18]	techrights-news	You immediately know that #Notcurses does not care about your freedom because it needs to #deletegithub https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Notcurses-2.4 #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware http://techrights.org/2021/09/05/free-software-number-1-enemy/
[21:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Notcurses 2.4 Released - Now Works On Windows & macOS For Terminal "Bling" - Phoronix
[21:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The State of Free Software | Techrights
[21:18]	techrights-news	My Favorite Warnings: once http://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2021/09/my-favorite-warnings-once.html #perl #programming
[21:18]	DaemonFC	Anyone who knows our government like I do knows that it doesn't really care how people are getting along aside from not wanting things to be miserable enough to get overthrown.
[21:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My Favorite Warnings: once | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org]
[21:19]	DaemonFC	Now, however, that vital lifeline has ended. Stokes isn't worried about her ability to find a new job, but finding one that can accommodate her children's schedules will be "next to impossible," she says. Child care in the Detroit suburb where she lives is severely limited, she said, and the nanny she trusted to pick up the kids in the afternoon prior to the pandemic is no longer available.
[21:19]	DaemonFC	LOL
[21:19]	DaemonFC	"I could work, but I had kids and now I'm fucked."
[21:19]	DaemonFC	I hear that one a lot.
[21:20]	DaemonFC	They're at school all day and then the bus brings them home. 
[21:20]	DaemonFC	Give them a key to the front door and have the older ones watch the younger ones.
[21:20]	schestowitz	not so lol
[21:20]	schestowitz	it's sad
[21:20]	schestowitz	they're decent people
[21:20]	DaemonFC	My parents did that and they weren't broke.
[21:20]	DaemonFC	THey made over $200,000 a year in the 1990s!
[21:20]	schestowitz	but they didn't plan for this kind of disaster
[21:20]	DaemonFC	When the money was worth 50% more or so.
[21:21]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz> but they didn't plan for this kind of disaster
[21:21]	schestowitz	they did not pay attention
[21:21]	DaemonFC	Rich people tell their kids "recessions are something that happens about every 10 years".
[21:21]	DaemonFC	Poor people have kids and apparently don't notice that recessions happen all the time.
[21:21]	schestowitz	we decided to not have kids because there's no good future for kids
[21:21]	schestowitz	and also overpopulation
[21:21]	schestowitz	we donate to animal charities insread
[21:21]	DaemonFC	They lose their jobs in every wave and don't anticipate another one, and have more kids.
[21:22]	schestowitz	they assume the state will chip in
[21:22]	schestowitz	in places like norway it might
[21:22]	schestowitz	because they are few
[21:22]	schestowitz	in some countries they have too many kids for the state to even feed
[21:23]	schestowitz	those countries will always stay poor and oppressed by WB/IM
[21:23]	schestowitz	IMF
[21:24]	techrights-news	Awful #intel needs to also #deletegithub https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Compute-Level-Zero-1.2 it used to have its OWN #git servers but this is what happened: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
[21:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Compute-Runtime Prepares oneAPI Level Zero 1.2 Support - Phoronix
[21:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights
[21:28]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, The state never tells anyone the truth, and even if it did, it wouldn't feel obligated by it tomorrow.
[21:28]	DaemonFC	The same with "promises".
[21:28]	DaemonFC	MinceR, ^
[21:29]	gustaf	lol schestowitz 
[21:29]	gustaf	liberal.chat
[21:29]	gustaf	conservative.chat 
[21:29]	gustaf	fight.chat 
[21:31]	DaemonFC	The state promises "Hey, single ladies in the house say YEAH!!!!" with the food stamps and the unlimited cash welfare..
[21:31]	DaemonFC	Then in 1996 the Republicans and Bill Clinton get together and get rid of the cash and impose work requirements on the food.
[21:32]	XRevan86	gustaf: nationalist.chat
[21:32]	DaemonFC	The state said, "Hey, don't worry. If you're poor we'll find you an affordable house with public housing.", then black people moved in in there were bullets flying through the walls and snipers on the roof.
[21:32]	DaemonFC	So they tore it down as a disaster, and said "If you behave, you can have some vouchers.", and then they limited the vouchers to where the waiting list hits 5 years and closes.
[21:33]	DaemonFC	And half the landlords don't want to maintain the property they rent, so don't even take them.
[21:33]	DaemonFC	When you have an open ended welfare program, this sort of thing happens.
[21:34]	DaemonFC	The bad actors move in, tear the shit out of it, have 9 kids hanging off them because there's no reason not to when Big Daddy Government will pay for them all.
[21:34]	DaemonFC	Then everyone has to suffer.
[21:34]	DaemonFC	If you have one kid, you're ruined.
[21:34]	DaemonFC	If it was a mistake and you won't do it again and you just need a little help, nobody cares. Go away.
[21:35]	DaemonFC	Having kids is a liability with no welfare programs, because the kids won't earn any money but somewhere along the next 18 years, you need to find hundreds of thousands of dollars that may be impossible to earn.
[21:36]	DaemonFC	My mom didn't even want to hear about OnlyFans and how those single moms were saying they were selling lewd pictures of themselves as a side hustle because it was either impossible to earn enough through work, or to find a second or third job.
[21:37]	DaemonFC	The state has, or will, abandon(ed) us all, and the more ways in which you need it, the more exposed you are when the right comes in and shuts the program down.
[21:38]	XRevan86	gustaf: What would really take off is populist.chat :)
[21:39]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: wow, those "apps" things get wicked
[21:39]	schestowitz	now people do dick pics not as accidents
[21:39]	schestowitz	and "fappenings" become a gig economy?
[21:39]	schestowitz	so sad
[21:40]	schestowitz	my dad keeps telling how disgusted he is by all this tinder and grindr and stuff
[21:40]	schestowitz	basically apps to buy sex
[21:40]	schestowitz	and back in the old days you dated for a long time before even kissing
[21:40]	schestowitz	let alone sexual things
[21:40]	schestowitz	society is becoming rather frustrating...
[21:40]	DaemonFC	Yes, porn as a "side hustle" for people trying to earn to buy food for their family has really taken off and I expect that this will get even worse now that Biden is allowing all of the housing programs and unemployment to stop.
[21:41]	DaemonFC	Next up, back to paying those student loans, deadbeat!
[21:41]	schestowitz	I only found out about this OnlyFans thing when there was sanctions against it
[21:41]	schestowitz	I knew nothing about OnlyFans beore that
[21:41]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: in the UK there was a crisis of landlord getting sex from tenants
[21:41]	schestowitz	not a new issue
[21:41]	schestowitz	except it became an epidemic
[21:42]	schestowitz	basically people buying many houses to use like brothels
[21:42]	schestowitz	you can imagine how they choose who to rent to
[21:42]	schestowitz	looking them up and down
[21:42]	schestowitz	"yes, ok, well... see you later"
[21:43]	DaemonFC	Well, what this will all lead to eventually is a glut of porn.
[21:44]	DaemonFC	Where it will pay less and less because it becomes diluted with so many people trying it in order to get some extra cash.
[21:44]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, It's not just the UK where landlords were demanding sex from female tenants for rent. Chicago was investigating hundreds of such complaints, and that was just months into the pandemic.
[21:45]	schestowitz	one of our clients had a submission form for this... to report landlords
[21:45]	XRevan86	A random cry: Matrix is so incredibly horrible!
[21:45]	schestowitz	I remember testing some aspects of those pages
[21:46]	schestowitz	XRevan86: the movie sucks
[21:46]	schestowitz	all of them
[21:46]	XRevan86	I mean the IM.
[21:46]	schestowitz	oh wait
[21:46]	schestowitz	matrix the software
[21:46]	schestowitz	I never tried it ybh
[21:46]	schestowitz	i heard it is bloated
[21:46]	XRevan86	Let's just say, I tried bridging it with XMPP, and now I can't get rid of it.
[21:46]	schestowitz	I am not sure how it handles federation
[21:46]	schestowitz	they banned DaemonFC
[21:47]	XRevan86	The bridging broke, and now it's unsalvagable and just haunting me.
[21:47]	schestowitz	so far ergo has been fantastic, zero downtime except when the underlying host/network had issues
[21:47]	XRevan86	All I can do it just ban the respective JIDs and try not to think about it.
[21:47]	schestowitz	I never spotted any missing/dropped messages either and I watch it carefully
[21:48]	schestowitz	jabber id?
[21:48]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Yea, of the bridge.
[21:49]	XRevan86	The other side channel is broken beyond repair with no ops.
[21:49]	schestowitz-TR	whose side?
[21:49]	XRevan86	The Matrix side.
[21:49]	schestowitz-TR	matrix something?
[21:49]	schestowitz-TR	not ours
[21:50]	schestowitz-TR	people ask me about matrix sometimes
[21:50]	schestowitz-TR	or mattermost (matrix)
[21:50]	schestowitz-TR	riot etc.
[21:50]	XRevan86	Yea, this is a cry about Matrix giving me pain while in XMPP.
[21:50]	schestowitz-TR	element
[21:50]	schestowitz-TR	what's wrong with IRC?
[21:50]	XRevan86	I cannot opt-out from it.
[21:50]	schestowitz-TR	kiwi irc made it more widely accessible
[21:51]	schestowitz-TR	Ariadne: good news. Legal action from Spain against EPO and EU, using our reporting.
[21:51]	XRevan86	It looks like channels in Matrix are permanent.
[21:51]	XRevan86	And broken bifrost will haunt me indefinitely.
[21:51]	schestowitz-TR	is there a top-level matrix authority?
[21:52]	schestowitz-TR	that can remove them?
[21:52]	schestowitz-TR	with nntp and irc there is none
[21:52]	schestowitz-TR	each network to its own
[21:52]	schestowitz-TR	my understanding is that with matrix there are some "god mods"
[21:52]	schestowitz-TR	in mastodon, they try to hard-code some bans for some instances in code
[21:52]	XRevan86	schestowitz: So far the response from matrix.org has been https://natribu.org/en
[21:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-natribu.org | FUCKOFF - The Official Site of a Symbolic Behavior Model Modification Suggestion
[21:53]	schestowitz-TR	so without some tinkering they can effectively blacklist whose large groups
[21:54]	schestowitz-TR	XRevan86: maybe this is what DaemonFC got: a "fuckoff"
[21:56]	XRevan86	schestowitz: At least they reacted to something.
[21:56]	techrights-news	Linux 5.15 Further Tunes Its #RISCV Support - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.15-RISC-V #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/06/#latest
[21:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.15 Further Tunes Its RISC-V Support - Phoronix
[21:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
[21:57]	techrights-news	Is The #RaspberryPi A Desktop Replacement? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=AmsrYwgfLc4 #video #invidious #gnu #linux
[21:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Is The Raspberry Pi A Desktop Replacement? - Invidious
[21:58]	techrights-news	"The linux.conf.au organizers have put out a second, extended call for proposals for the 2022 event, which will be held online starting January 14." https://lwn.net/Articles/868500/rss
[21:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reminder: linux.conf.au 2022 Call for Sessions open + Extended [LWN.net]
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[22:00]	techrights-news	Do not download or use this. This is an "embrace, extend, extinguish"-type attack on Git, on #git projects, and pm Git users; #Microsoft is already in the second "E" here https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-install-github-cli-on-linux/ #deletegithub
[22:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | How to Install GitHub CLI on Linux
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[22:03]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Honestly everything about Matrix is annoying, a big part of which is their "distributed" design which implies a lot of dangling data.
[22:04]	schestowitz-TR	I don't want to learn it
[22:04]	XRevan86	Someone joined a bridged IRC channel with a random nickname and left? Matrix remembers.
[22:04]	schestowitz-TR	at work, we considered mattermost
[22:04]	schestowitz-TR	but never went there
[22:04]	schestowitz-TR	jabber can be irc-like
[22:04]	XRevan86	There is now a permanent profile there associated with that event.
[22:05]	schestowitz-TR	is that terrible?
[22:05]	schestowitz-TR	I recently learned how ergo stores data
[22:05]	schestowitz-TR	configs are in yalm
[22:05]	schestowitz-TR	accounts are in flat data files with hashed
[22:05]	schestowitz-TR	*yaml
[22:06]	schestowitz-TR	and log data, like /history , are in a very simple data file
[22:06]	schestowitz-TR	no database or anything and it's all compact and human-readable
[22:06]	XRevan86	schestowitz: The amount of trash in the Matrix database is astronomical.
[22:06]	DaemonFC	Matrix is a lot easier to cancel someone on than IRC is.
[22:06]	schestowitz-TR	I needed to just make a backup, belatedly
[22:06]	DaemonFC	Especially now that more people use VPNs, which are a giant NAT.
[22:07]	schestowitz-TR	you became baronhk there
[22:07]	XRevan86	And then that trash is propagated through the federation to other servers and fill up storage.
[22:07]	schestowitz-TR	sounds like fediverse
[22:07]	DaemonFC	I'm very happy that people are using some kind of VPN, even if it's Nord or Mozilla, because it is difficult to figure out the implications of permanently banning an IP address.
[22:07]	schestowitz-TR	it's one reason I left fediverse
[22:07]	schestowitz-TR	after 3 accounts were lost
[22:07]	schestowitz-TR	I wanted to self-host
[22:07]	DaemonFC	You may take out 100 or more other people on your network, and then there's no point.
[22:07]	schestowitz-TR	but it's very resource-intensiuve
[22:07]	XRevan86	schestowitz: It's nowhere near as bad in there.
[22:08]	schestowitz-TR	also, I reckon maintaining it would be hard
[22:08]	DaemonFC	If the person you banned switches to another server, then they're unbanned and 99 people try to figure out what's happened to them.
[22:08]	schestowitz-TR	seeing how hard a---iadne worked to keep pleroma.site running
[22:08]	schestowitz-TR	and then even href gave up
[22:08]	DaemonFC	k-lines are now pretty much useless.
[22:08]	DaemonFC	You can inflict a lot of collatoral damage on your network with no upside.
[22:09]	DaemonFC	Before VPNs became popular, they were quite an effective way to deal with someone you wanted rid of, most of the time.
[22:09]	schestowitz-TR	well, that and dial-up modems
[22:09]	schestowitz-TR	many things changed
[22:09]	DaemonFC	ISPs would give them an IP address they were stuck with for months or more, and you took out one IP and banned it for 6 months, you solved the problem.
[22:09]	schestowitz-TR	I sort of miss being offline 'by default'
[22:09]	schestowitz-TR	go online
[22:09]	schestowitz-TR	beep beep beeep modem
[22:10]	schestowitz-TR	check email, surf some pages, go offline
[22:10]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, I chained together dial up modems, actually.
[22:10]	schestowitz-TR	write replies, back online, sent, chat a little, back offline, sleep/bed
[22:10]	DaemonFC	There was channel bonding software, and it turned out to be cheaper to use that and pay for a second POTS line than it was to use ISDN.
[22:11]	DaemonFC	ISDN got you two digital lines that were 64kbps each, but the B channel cost money the more you used it while the A channel was unlimited.
[22:11]	schestowitz-TR	I remember isdn was expensive
[22:11]	schestowitz-TR	people who worked in tech saw a need for it
[22:11]	schestowitz-TR	anything to speed things up a bit
[22:11]	schestowitz-TR	me, as a kid, no access to that
[22:11]	DaemonFC	As long as you had a relatively good connection to your ISP over the telephone system and disabled call waiting before dialing out, it was more stable than you might think.
[22:11]	schestowitz-TR	only at university I learned how to use ethernet
[22:14]	techrights-news	"Like everyone else on #Linux I've been using #sudo but when I tried out #doas on my #gentoo install I really liked it so I thought why not try it out over on my main Arch install and I've really been liking it." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=brXd12LstgA
[22:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | RIP Sudo, Open Doas Is My New Best Friend - Invidious
[22:14]	techrights-news	Late Night Linux Episode 141: "Flim is trolled about the cloud, our first impressions of elementary OS, your feedback, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-141/
[22:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux Episode 141 Late Night Linux
[22:15]	DaemonFC	"More than 8 million people are now left with no unemployment compensation at all, while another 2.7 million lost the $300 federal weekly boost but will continue receiving state payments, according to estimates by The Century Foundation."
[22:15]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, Seems Biden's more worried about inflation then them.
[22:15]	schestowitz-TR	I took two days off work this week
[22:15]	schestowitz-TR	paid 
[22:15]	DaemonFC	If you crush out their spending power, you get a hold on inflation.
[22:16]	alextee	does anyone know about this? https://www.tizen.org/
[22:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizen.org | Tizen | An open source, standards-based software platform for multiple device categories.
[22:16]	schestowitz-TR	if I cannot work from home, it'll be devastating
[22:16]	alextee	backed by the linux foundation and pushes .NET and visual studio on mac
[22:16]	schestowitz-TR	alextee: we used to support them
[22:16]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz-TR> if I cannot work from home, it'll be devastating
[22:16]	schestowitz-TR	at work I mean
[22:16]	DaemonFC	Still on the fence about the vaccine?
[22:16]	schestowitz-TR	they still sell a bit in india and korea I think
[22:16]	schestowitz-TR	alextee: they don't push .NET as primary
[22:17]	schestowitz-TR	but there was a time they started doing it on the side
[22:17]	schestowitz-TR	maybe after the Samsung-Microsoft settlement
[22:17]	alextee	it's one of the 4 banners on the website
[22:17]	schestowitz-TR	which included Samsung pushing lots of Microsoft malware
[22:17]	alextee	2 of the 4 actually
[22:17]	schestowitz-TR	anyway, they are irrelevant now
[22:17]	DaemonFC	I doubt the drop in unemployment will affect us much. Where else will these people shop but Walmart?
[22:18]	DaemonFC	And most of them will just break down and go back to work.
[22:18]	DaemonFC	Even if it's fast food or something.
[22:18]	schestowitz-TR	I see now, alextee
[22:18]	schestowitz-TR	yes, it does not look good
[22:18]	schestowitz-TR	signs of desperation
[22:18]	schestowitz-TR	I also blasted them for it like 4 years ago
[22:18]	schestowitz-TR	then they mostly vanished
[22:18]	schestowitz-TR	maybe those are way out of date
[22:19]	schestowitz-TR	when did they last release ide tools?
[22:19]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, I keep saying this, but this really is my last Samsung phone unless T-Mobile does live up to their promise to get the S21 in and give it to me free after bill credit.
[22:19]	DaemonFC	If they'll cancel out the purchase price with a bill credit, why not?
[22:19]	alextee	maybe, first time I've heard of this. I just saw "tizen" OS in my matomo analytics and searched for it
[22:19]	schestowitz-TR	they are dead beef
[22:19]	DaemonFC	The quality of Samsung phones has been getting worse since the S6, although the S6 was a completely awful phone.
[22:19]	DaemonFC	It was a damned gas guzzler.
[22:20]	schestowitz-TR	like webOS, except LF still puts it on fridges
[22:20]	DaemonFC	The CPU was a battery hog.
[22:20]	DaemonFC	The S5 was a much better phone than the S6 was.
[22:20]	schestowitz-TR	I'm not sure if samsung puts tizenOS on many things anymore
[22:20]	schestowitz-TR	it's neglected, almost abandoned
[22:20]	alextee	DaemonFC, I use a samsung S5 (downgrade from nexus 5P) mostly because I can change the battery easily
[22:20]	alextee	very happy with it
[22:20]	schestowitz-TR	when it was Maemo, MeeGo, and LiMo in the consortia space many companies were actively involved
[22:21]	schestowitz-TR	Open handset Alliance of Google is hiostopry
[22:21]	schestowitz-TR	Android/AOSP is just Goolgle
[22:21]	schestowitz-TR	they quit pretending
[22:22]	alextee	let's hope pinephone becomes more usable
[22:22]	schestowitz-TR	harmonyOS of huawei grows now
[22:22]	alextee	the keyboard thing seems really nice
[22:22]	alextee	but the software needs a lot of work still IMO, it's not very user friendly
[22:22]	schestowitz-TR	[19:52] <techrights-news> " #Huawei set an ambitious goal for #HarmonyOS 2.0 to reach 300 million devices by the end of the year. Thats a big number, but doesnt sound impossible as the new OS is expanding quickly: it was at 10 million users in early June, 70 million at the end of August and days later it has shot up by another 20 million users." https://www.gsmarena.com/harmonyos_20_reaches_90_million_users_8_new_users_are_added_
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[22:22]	schestowitz-TR	every_seco
[22:23]	schestowitz-TR	https://www.gsmarena.com/harmonyos_20_reaches_90_million_users_8_new_users_are_added_every_seco
[22:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.gsmarena.com/harmonyos_20_reaches_90_million_users_8_new_users_are_added_every_seco )
[22:24]	schestowitz-TR	of course us/eu media won't mention it much
[22:24]	alextee	hmm "multi-kernel design" sounds cool
[22:24]	schestowitz-TR	"not inveted here
[22:24]	schestowitz-TR	even if it reaches a billion installs
[22:24]	schestowitz-TR	it'll be all 'i' and android
[22:24]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155344 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[22:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[22:26]	alextee	oh they have their own app format
[22:26]	alextee	>In contrast to Android apps being packaged into APK file format, HarmonyOS apps are released as an App Pack suffixed with .app for distribution at Huawei's AppGallery. Each App Pack contains one of more HarmonyOS Ability Package (HAP) files and a pack.info file
[22:30]	techrights-news	#Kernel: LCA, RISC-V Support in Linux, and Wayland Composer Sway http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155345 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[22:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: LCA, RISC-V Support in Linux, and Wayland Composer Sway | Tux Machines
[22:30]	techrights-news	Audiocasts/Shows: Late Night Linux, Doas, Raspberry Pi 4, and Going Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155346 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[22:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Late Night Linux, Doas, Raspberry Pi 4, and Going Linux | Tux Machines
[22:30]	schestowitz-TR	alextee: I hate the "app" model
[22:31]	schestowitz-TR	it used to be better
[22:31]	schestowitz-TR	give me a machine
[22:31]	schestowitz-TR	give me control
[22:31]	schestowitz-TR	I can fetch the software I need
[22:31]	schestowitz-TR	then came repos
[22:31]	schestowitz-TR	and it's similar except not tightly controlled like this
[22:31]	schestowitz-TR	now you have messy snaps, flatpak (bloat), and AppImage
[22:32]	schestowitz-TR	all of them truly bloated
[22:32]	schestowitz-TR	some server stuff is container image
[22:34]	alextee	yeah packages that work together with dependencies are better
[22:34]	alextee	all-in-one apps don't make sense
[22:34]	techrights-news	"i am not saying FSF should endorse 80s hardware, my argument is they shouldn't promote non-free systems and lie about it" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-050921.html#tSep%2005%2017:41:09
[22:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, September 05, 2021
[22:36]	schestowitz-TR	alextee: companies became lazy
[22:36]	schestowitz-TR	on mobile, even small and worthless "apps" are tens of megs in size
[22:36]	schestowitz-TR	like totally worthless apps
[22:36]	schestowitz-TR	on my palm PDA they would be like 50KB eeach
[22:37]	schestowitz-TR	checking now
[22:37]	schestowitz-TR	on my PDA
[22:37]	schestowitz-TR	calculator 54k
[22:38]	schestowitz-TR	for advanced calculator
[22:38]	schestowitz-TR	137k for a file manager
[22:38]	schestowitz-TR	19k us holiday calendar
[22:38]	alextee	not bad
[22:39]	schestowitz-TR	9k backup app
[22:39]	schestowitz-TR	95k volleyball game
[22:39]	schestowitz-TR	812k web browser
[22:39]	schestowitz-TR	5mb dictionary
[22:40]	schestowitz-TR	because of its database
[22:40]	schestowitz-TR	noahlite
[22:50]	techrights-news	#ibm as "retirement home" (29 mins ago) https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cuRV4DQ#replies #redhat
[22:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | A nursery of talents - post regarding IBM layoffs
[22:52]	techrights-news	"I worked for #IBM for four+ decades. I hope they dont go under as well so I dont loose part of my pension that is tied to the last time IBM tried to F$&K their employees by cancelling their old pension plan." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cHMC6Dj#replies
[22:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | My parents installed net nanny so I spend all my time posting fake questions. - post regarding IBM layoffs
[22:53]	techrights-news	"I was moved back to the old plan because an employee sued and IBM lost. Things never change!!! Otherwise, sc--w #IBM and their arrogant, greedy executive SH--S!!!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cHMC6Dj#replies http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM
[22:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - Techrights
[22:57]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, I just don't get how things went so wrong so fast.
[22:57]	DaemonFC	Like, 20-30 years ago even, it would have been scandalous, the kind of moral corruption that's acceptable in our public schools.
[22:58]	DaemonFC	People who can get away from them and do home schooling are definitely better off, especially with the Coronavirus lurking everywhere.
[22:58]	DaemonFC	If you send your kids to school, they have to sit behind a sneeze guard, can't interact, masks on all day.
[22:59]	DaemonFC	And they'll still probably get infected, they just can't socialize.
[22:59]	DaemonFC	There's just not going to be any normal childhood development and we're breeding mental illness into an entire generation that will suffer with it for the rest of their lives.
● Sep 06
[23:09]	schestowitz-TR	yeah
[23:09]	schestowitz-TR	wait
[23:09]	schestowitz-TR	they have sneeze guards???
[23:10]	schestowitz-TR	the "systems" loathes home schooling for several reasons
[23:10]	schestowitz-TR	the parents cannot become the capitalists' slaves
[23:10]	schestowitz-TR	kids at home
[23:10]	schestowitz-TR	second, uniformed indoctrination
[23:10]	schestowitz-TR	inside schools they shape the minds of the lemmings
[23:10]	schestowitz-TR	too much leeway if the kids are not trained under state control
[23:11]	schestowitz-TR	they will have the kids wrapped in bubbles if it that's what it takes to guard the status quo
[23:11]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.46   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 90.95 swarm size (avg): 263.11  
[23:12]	techrights-news	"There are about 30,000 packages in #debian sid, and it usually takes a couple of weeks for the janitor to cycle through all of them." https://www.jelmer.uk/janitor-webhooks.html
[23:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jelmer.uk | Web Hooks for theJanitor
[23:13]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: they don't need sneeze shields but breathe shields
[23:14]	schestowitz-TR	as the things travels easily even without shooting it off like a lung-powered cannon
[23:14]	schestowitz-TR	people with kids cannot isolate like us, not this month anyway with kids back in school. Lockdown is around the corner again....
[23:15]	schestowitz	DaemonFC:  51 new deaths  in 'world's lab' today
[23:16]	schestowitz	if compared to the side of US population, about 40 times more
[23:16]	schestowitz	we're talking about 2000 dead
[23:16]	schestowitz	and that\s for 90%-95% adult vaccination rate
[23:16]	schestowitz	the experiment is failing
[23:16]	schestowitz	you were so proud of  'world's lab' 
[23:16]	schestowitz	that you rushed to get a third jab
[23:17]	schestowitz	Microsoft: Windows Service Pack X+1 will fix everything
[23:17]	schestowitz	Pfizer: get read for the next booster
[23:17]	schestowitz	with new patents on it
[23:20]	techrights-news	#MXLinux 21 Beta 2 Run Through - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=rTXJkI0fAZM #video #invidious
[23:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | MX Linux 21 Beta 2 Run Through - Invidious
[23:21]	techrights-news	"Smart" TV = (typically) an #internet connected TV with camera and sometimes microphone so it can transmit data about you to its TRUE owners
[23:30]	techrights-news	Links 6/9/2021: Finnix 123, antiX-21 Beta 2 THigHT http://techrights.org/2021/09/06/finnix-123/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/06/finnix-123/
[23:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/9/2021: Finnix 123, antiX-21 Beta 2 | Techrights
[23:31]	techrights-news	Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155347 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[23:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[23:38]	techrights-news	"The EPO euthanized the raccoon." :( https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/550569641/dem-announces-that-a-north-providence-couple-was-explosed-to-a-rabid-raccoon-urges-public-not-to-feed-wildlife
[23:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.einnews.com | DEM Announces that a North Providence Couple was Explosed to a Rabid Raccoon, Urges Public Not to Feed Wildlife - EIN Presswire
[23:42]	techrights-news	Another whole weekday passes and #npower / #eon #eownnext did not phone back as promised. This is after more than half an hour on the line. Their customer support is imaginary and they just don't care...
[23:44]	techrights-news	I never even signed a contract with #eon / #eonnext as they just bought our supplier #npower and then 'stole' all the personal data, including bank details, from NPower. Now abusing NPower clients while gaslighting them. Avoid!
[23:46]	techrights-news	Sooooo "smart".... "Smart" meter. https://nitter.eu/holly_pascall/status/1434977144518680583 #npower #eon #eonnext
[23:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Holly Pascall (@holly_pascall): "Should I worry that twice now, my smart meter has told me I have exceeded my budget at 999999 " | nitter
[23:48]	techrights-news	The most terrible energy provider I ever had to deal with. #npower taken over by #eon #eonnext ... who treat people like trash and robbing them while energy prices upstream have sunk dud to pandemic (demise of demand, oversupply) https://nitter.eu/Feed_the_tweet/status/1434928954440396805
[23:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Sub Zero (@Feed_the_tweet): "Worst company Ive ever been with. Raise bill just before contract ends even though they take my meter reading every bloody month. Never again!" | nitter
[23:50]	techrights-news	This relatively young lady just lost her husband to #cancer and #eon #eonnext keeps terrorising her, repeatedly, with #debt collectors. Pure evil. See context. https://nitter.eu/Trikkytosh/status/1434922920170729477
[23:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Trikky Tosh (@Trikkytosh): "@eon_next debt collector has just been again!" | nitter
[23:52]	techrights-news	Imagine a company so incopetent that its whole customer 'support' system is down for many days in row. Yes, #eon #eonnext for you. #npower takeover should have been BLOCKED. https://nitter.eu/NickOLeary20/status/1434919106344538117
[23:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Nick O'Leary (@NickOLeary20): "@eon_next Been trying to call and online chat with your company since last Thursday. Now being told your systems are down so call after Thursday this week. I need contact now not in a week." | nitter
[23:54]	techrights-news	Can a company LEGALLY have its whole customer support system down for about a week (without, e.g., compensating clients)? https://nitter.eu/wisemamma1/status/1434905749776371718 #npower #eon #eonnext
[23:54]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | wise mamma (@wisemamma1): "Dont bother calling them theyre claiming that their whole system is down until Friday they cant do anything useless company" | nitter
[23:56]	techrights-news	#eon #eonnext does not even allow you to escalate to a boss. When it does, it tells you (after 35 minutes on phone) they will phone back. And of course they don't. #npower acquisition should be been blocked. They now commandeer many people with debt-collecting gangsters and no customer support. https://nitter.eu/wisemamma1/status/1434905282463797248
[23:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | wise mamma (@wisemamma1): "Not happy at all ridiculous this company cant even be trusted to record a complaint accurately" | nitter