●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 06, 2021 ●● ● Oct 06 [00:00] DaemonFC GitHub Copilot basically facilitates code plagiarism and GPL violations...but 40% of the code it produces has errors. [00:00] DaemonFC Microsoft. :) [00:01] MinceR hey, that's better than microsoft's rate [00:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [00:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.93 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 30.13 swarm size (avg): 258.52 [00:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.93 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 30.13 swarm size (avg): 258.52 [00:03] schestowitz MinceR: how to pronnounce Judit Hajd? [00:03] MinceR https://translate.google.com/?source=osdd&sl=auto&tl=auto&text=Judit+Hajd%C3%BA&op=translate [00:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate [00:03] schestowitz-TR [23:59] schestowitz, Are you discussing this? [00:03] MinceR like that [00:03] schestowitz-TR i mentioned it many times in videos and articles [00:04] schestowitz ok, so like heidi [00:05] schestowitz I will do a video about this tomorrow [00:05] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:06] schestowitz MinceR: "By a mysterious stroke of misfortune, when Battistelli's "Strike Regulations" came up on the agenda during the June 2013 meeting, it would appear that Ms Hadj missed the vote." [00:07] MinceR should be Hajd instead of Hadj [00:07] schestowitz-TR ah, thaks, will correct [00:08] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@saqc7kptq78w4.irc) has joined #techrights [00:09] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Judit-Hajdu.png [00:09] schestowitz file name corrected also [00:11] DaemonFC The Trash Can decided to get in a bad mood. [00:11] DaemonFC I'm trying it on its side. [00:11] DaemonFC There are people on Reddit talking about aluminum foil to prevent interference. [00:13] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [00:13] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@krgmyyipujtae.irc) has joined #techrights [00:15] DaemonFC My connection seems okay off the VPN. [00:15] DaemonFC Nord has been putting me on "Dedipath" hosting lately. [00:15] DaemonFC I started calling it Deadpath. [00:17] schestowitz-TR :-) [00:18] schestowitz MinceR: draft: http://techrights.org/2021/10/05/epo-missing-votes/ [00:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part III: Three Missing Votes | Techrights [00:23] *fecebookdown (~b9dc653b@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [00:24] DaemonFC There we go. [00:24] DaemonFC I had to specify I wanted a Nexeon server in Chicago. [00:24] DaemonFC Those work better than "deadpath". [00:24] DaemonFC "deadipath" [00:25] DaemonFC Free Dumb Tech [00:26] schestowitz-TR still PIA? [00:27] techrights-news The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part III: Three Missing Votes http://techrights.org/2021/10/05/epo-missing-votes/ #epo #hungary #europe #corruption #patents [00:28] DaemonFC No, Nord this time. [00:28] DaemonFC They get weird in the evenings. [00:28] DaemonFC You have to go looking for a server that has good bandwidth. [00:28] techrights-news #billBC : we get bribes from pervert #billgates and we employ #microsoft #uk managers as BBC managers. BUT... we ALSO take money from taxpayers and now we bombard them with MICROSOFT MARKETING, pushing MALWARE to them. #bbc corrupt. [00:28] techrights-news #QubesOS Intro on the Librem 14 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156473 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Qubes OS Intro on the Librem 14 | Tux Machines [00:29] MinceR schestowitz: i've read it, didn't find any issues but i'm not sure what the significance of these "Strike Regulations" are [00:29] techrights-news #FSF : Lifes better together when you avoid #vista11 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156474 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Life's better together when you avoid Windows 11 | Tux Machines [00:29] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:29] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:33] DaemonFC I suppose I could purge NordVPN and setup NetworkManager OpenVPN. [00:35] techrights-news #Google, #FSFE & Child labor http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156475 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google, FSFE & Child labor | Tux Machines [00:36] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156476 #Linux #TuxMachines [00:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:42] *fecebookdown has quit (Quit: https://mibbit.com Online IRC Client) [00:44] *ziproot (~ziproot@5rh5mmnxx482e.irc) has joined #techrights [00:49] techrights-news Pi-based doggie bot hops and trots its way to Kickstarter success http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156477 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pi-based doggie bot hops and trots its way to Kickstarter success | Tux Machines [00:56] techrights-news Links 5/10/2021: #Firefox 93.0 and EasyOS 3.0, AlmaLinux Openwashing http://techrights.org/2021/10/05/almalinux-openwashing/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/05/almalinux-openwashing/ [00:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 5/10/2021: Firefox 93.0 and EasyOS 3.0, AlmaLinux Openwashing | Techrights [00:56] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156478 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [00:59] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights ● Oct 06 [01:13] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:13] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:15] *x_ is now known as kingoffrance [01:15] *ziproot has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:16] *altlink_4f1 has quit (connection closed) [01:16] *altlink_cc9 (~altlink_cc9@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #techrights [01:17] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.36 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 32.28 swarm size (avg): 258.52 [01:17] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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[02:03] schestowitz-TR seems like they copy from gemini [02:03] schestowitz-TR never saw that site before [02:17] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.10 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 77.16 swarm size (avg): 258.51 [02:22] *koo6 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [02:30] *mib_zvd66e has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [02:37] techrights-news techpol + social irc Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-051021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-051021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-051021.txt [02:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, October 05, 2021 [02:38] techrights-news techrights irc Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. 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HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-051021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-051021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-051021.txt [02:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, October 05, 2021 [02:42] techrights-news Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-10-05.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2021-10-05.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:52] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Trying to look through Debian KDE on my Yoga 900. [02:52] DaemonFC Still has the default scaling problem. [02:53] DaemonFC You can fix that, but after 5 years it's kind of sad to see that. ● Oct 06 [03:15] techrights-ipfs-bot Gemini requests since start of month: 76051 total Total pages: 37633 Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 3 months 28 days ago [03:15] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 15 GB TotalOut: 3.1 GB [03:15] techrights-ipfs-bot New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [03:16] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:16] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:19] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.55 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 51.08 swarm size (avg): 258.52 [03:20] techrights-ipfs-bot QmajCNJF85CQYXyosFsER5Yo2XiPM6BUZkHYzeqXkCfiv3 [03:29] *rianne (~rianne@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [03:30] *liberty_box (~liberty@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [03:43] *superkuh has quit (Excess Flood) [03:45] *superkuh (~superkuh@user/superkuh) has joined #techrights [03:48] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, What the hell is going on with Qt anyway. [03:48] DaemonFC I read something about them withholding all new releases for a year. [03:48] DaemonFC Not just restricting LTS releases to paying customers. [03:53] MinceR dying [03:53] MinceR ibm and microsoft have no use for Qt [03:59] activelow that's why, an excess dependency graph is dangerous. alot of things depend on qt, including stuff i wished had remained. Such as LyX, wysiwag editor for TeX. ● Oct 06 [04:01] DaemonFC Installing Cyberpunk 2077 into Wine. [04:01] DaemonFC See how it runs with dxvk. [04:01] DaemonFC Windows 10 was running me too low on SSD space to install many games. [04:03] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:04] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:04] activelow LyX could be a decent alternative, for authoring various papers, to ditch libreoffice into where it belongs [04:04] activelow LyX compiles in a few minutes btw. [04:05] activelow and, maybe, QT framework does support directfb... i'll find out soon [04:06] activelow a noX11 distro release should be ready this afternoon, so i can test and patch QT and GTK against it [04:09] activelow there is some other TeX frontends, which use GTK instead of QT, such as GUMMI [04:10] activelow GUMMI is relatively light-weight, and seems to be a neat compromise, to do authoring with TeX, and have a preview pane right beside [04:11] activelow a replacement for LO spreadsheets is this: python to process data tables, and gnuplot to render diagrams [04:12] activelow users and developers have been brainwashed, and became accustomed to office suit products, heavyweight IDEs [04:13] activelow thinking of Spyder-IDE for example, QT again, will this be any long-term reliable system? doubt it. [04:14] activelow in comparison python programming with Vim is possible, or emacs. [04:15] activelow debugging comfort is a crucial question, i still fear gdb, and had always used some IDE for sake of simplicity [04:15] XRevan86 It's a weird feeling: I'm actually definitely more confident in longevity of MariaDB over Oracle MySQL. [04:16] activelow not postgresql? [04:16] XRevan86 activelow: I'm just comparing the two. The weirdness is that the first impression people get is the exact opposite. [04:19] XRevan86 MariaDB has a lot of high paying customers that *depend* on MariaDB features that Oracle will never implement in MySQL. Meanwhile, MySQL is more of a side project for Oracle. [04:19] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 27.66 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 16.93 swarm size (avg): 258.53 [04:20] XRevan86 activelow: PostgreSQL's longevity is such that I'm more confident in it than in humanity itself. [04:21] activelow high-availability and clustering features of postgresql appealed somehow experimental, some years ago i had a look at it [04:21] XRevan86 Yea, that's something that hasn't been properly addressed. [04:22] XRevan86 But things like Citus exist, and some DBMS that take postgres and put in onto a new base with horizontal scaling and everything. [04:23] activelow for small projects sqlite suffices, almost always [04:23] activelow didn't keep track of that one for some time either [04:24] activelow anyway, mariadb and mysql [04:25] XRevan86 activelow: HA and clustering aren't particularly relevant to SQLite, except that there's a project that does put all that on top of SQLite :). [04:26] XRevan86 I don't really get that SQLite is not an actually good DMBS, it's only going to disappoint when used in place of a big DBMS. [04:35] DaemonFC https://lists.zx2c4.com/pipermail/wireguard/2019-June/004259.html [04:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.zx2c4.com | Deterministic Cryptographically Authenticated Network Signatures on Windows NLA [04:35] DaemonFC lol [04:36] DaemonFC "For WireGuard, we're using Wintun interfaces [1]. We could roll with a [04:36] DaemonFC single interface, which then would have the same Network Signature and [04:36] DaemonFC hence firewall settings, no matter which WireGuard peers its hooked up [04:36] DaemonFC with. Or, we could have a new interface for every new connection [04:36] DaemonFC event, but this means adding an unbounded amount of garbage to the [04:36] DaemonFC registry and cluttering people's interface names with things like [04:36] DaemonFC "Local Area Connection 28912", because this is the 28912th time you've [04:36] DaemonFC used WireGuard. Neither is so ideal." [04:36] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [04:36] DaemonFC *sigh* [04:36] DaemonFC Windows is so nice. [04:37] DaemonFC I'm sure everything is going great for people who are installing "11". [04:37] DaemonFC Like it always does for people who grab it soon after release. [04:38] DaemonFC "Since Wintun is a layer 3 interface, it turns out "all" we need to do [04:38] DaemonFC is deterministically generate the GUID at adapter installation time. I [04:38] DaemonFC couldn't find any documented way of doing this. After reversing 3 [04:38] DaemonFC kernel drivers and 5 userland DLLs, I found that Windows is using a [04:38] DaemonFC certain registry value as a sort of temporary storage in between two [04:38] DaemonFC phases that it runs serially. By using the super old and ugly [04:38] DaemonFC SetupAPI, we're actually able to split these phases up, so that we can [04:38] DaemonFC modify this registry key before the next phase sees it. This is sort [04:38] DaemonFC of like exploiting a race condition, except we're able to entirely [04:38] DaemonFC pause the race while making our modifications, so we have 100% [04:38] DaemonFC reliability." [04:39] DaemonFC Until Microsoft fucks the API and your hack with it, I suppose. [04:41] DaemonFC https://git.zx2c4.com/wireguard-windows/about/docs/attacksurface.md [04:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.zx2c4.com | wireguard-windows - WireGuard client for Windows [04:59] *blitzed has quit (Quit: +++ATH0&D2 NO CARRIER NO CAREER) ● Oct 06 [05:06] *blitzed (~blitzed@89e7ye9kpmzwe.irc) has joined #techrights [05:19] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.05 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 19.65 swarm size (avg): 258.52 [05:38] DaemonFC "GNOME Disk Analyzer (baobab) and Disk Utility have been added to Xubuntu to make it easier to monitor and manage your partitions. [05:38] DaemonFC Rhythmbox with the Alternative Toolbar layout are now included in Xubuntu. Play your music with a dedicated media library. [05:38] DaemonFC Pipewire is now included in Xubuntu and other flavors. Pipewire is used in conjunction with PulseAudio to improve audio playback in Linux. Bluetooth audio is especially improved. [05:38] DaemonFC Pidgin has been removed due to decreasing functionality as various messaging platforms move to proprietary protocols and applications. Pidgin can be reinstalled from GNOME Software if you still rely on it." [05:38] DaemonFC XFCE, brought to you by GNOME. [05:58] activelow is GTK a gnome project? because, GTK is what i keep, and gnome is what i kicked out. ● Oct 06 [06:04] activelow seems gtk and gnome are not related, gnome is using gtk, gnome isn't required to benefit from gtk widgets elsewhere. [06:04] activelow and, nice, GTK is written in C. QT is c++; maybe i simply blackist QT alltogeher and forget about it. done. [06:14] DaemonFC I despise Qt. [06:15] activelow DaemonFC: why? [06:15] DaemonFC Well, it makes Chromium mandatory for starters. [06:16] activelow it doesn't here with my system. [06:16] DaemonFC THey call it the webengine [06:17] activelow yes, blacklisted. not present here. the only package which depends on qt and required extensive patching to remove webengine was spyder-ide [06:17] activelow otherwise, QT does not depend on webengine/chromium [06:17] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.56 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 18.58 swarm size (avg): 258.50 [06:18] activelow anyway, GTK4 seems to focus on OpenGL and Vulkan... i don't know why that would be necessary, GTK2 could do without any such on very slow CPUs such as i486 [06:18] activelow i will blacklist GTK4 [06:18] activelow haven't decided yet about QT, probably will be blacklisted too [06:18] DaemonFC llvmpipe can run that on systems without proper graphics. 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[08:59] techrights-news #Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, October 05, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [08:59] techrights-news #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index ● Oct 06 [09:00] techrights-news #google causing APK confusion http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-051021.html#tOct%2005%2021:01:35 [09:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, October 05, 2021 [09:00] techrights-news A look at who declined (or failed) to participate in #BenotBattistelli s attack on workers; or, put another way, who failed to object to unlawful #EPO regulations The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part III: Three Missing Votes http://techrights.org/2021/10/05/epo-missing-votes/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/05/epo-missing-vo [09:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part III: Three Missing Votes | Techrights [09:03] techrights-news Official #w3c validator down for 2-3 days already. Very strange. It has been working for at least 15 years (I use it regularly, every day). Are #monopolies turning off essential services now that they've captured W3C? [09:03] techrights-news "linux kernel did support compression with ext2 filesystem, ext4 doesn't anymore" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-051021.html#tOct%2005%2023:52:58 [09:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, October 05, 2021 [09:04] techrights-news These are deliberate lies from #TeamUPC ; UPC is in fact an attack on SMEs https://realbusiness.co.uk/the-new-eu-patent-system-whats-in-it-for-smes #unitarypatent #fakenews #coup [09:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://realbusiness.co.uk/the-new-eu-patent-system-whats-in-it-for-smes ) [09:04] techrights-news #IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, October 05, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/10/06/irc-log-051021/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/06/irc-log-051021/ [09:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, October 05, 2021 | Techrights [09:05] techrights-news Latest comment on IBM layoffs and corporate collapse: "Services, SW, and HW. Where have I seen this before? I mean when? #Ibm is going back to 10 years ago. These execs are useless!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d9MMFw9#replies [09:05] altlink_cc9 thelayoff.com is Cloudflare domain. [09:05] altlink_cc9 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d9MMFw9#replies [09:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBMs new reporting structure - post regarding IBM layoffs [09:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | IBMs new reporting structure - post regarding IBM layoffs [09:06] techrights-news NEWS #uniToronto #howto The "why" problem with on-host (host-based) firewalls on your machines https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/HostFirewallsWhyProblem [09:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/HostFirewallsWhyProblem [09:07] techrights-news NEWS #Rachel #howto 'date -d' vs. 'date -s', and 'show foo' vs. 'clear foo' https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2021/10/05/cmd/ [09:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rachelbythebay.com | 'date -d' vs. 'date -s', and 'show foo' vs. 'clear foo' [09:07] techrights-news NEWS #AJVP #howto Syncing #Lagrange Bookmarks via the Clown https://www.andrewjvpowell.com/articles/syncing-lagrange-bookmarks-cloud/ #freesw #geminispace [09:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.andrewjvpowell.com | Syncing Lagrange Bookmarks via the Cloud | Andrew JV Powell [09:07] techrights-news NEWS #AJVP #howto Write HTML, Not #JavaScript https://www.andrewjvpowell.com/articles/write-html-not-javascript/ #js #bloat #www [09:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.andrewjvpowell.com | Write HTML, Not JavaScript | Andrew JV Powell [09:09] *inky_ (~inky@178.78.138.62) has joined #techrights [09:17] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.76 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 54.83 swarm size (avg): 258.47 [09:18] techrights-news NEWS #Salon #Health #Facebook 's outage proves #ElizabethWarren right: It's time to break up Big Tech https://www.salon.com/2021/10/05/facebooks-outage-proves-elizabeth-warren-right-its-time-to-break-up-big-tech/ [09:18] altlink_cc9 salon.com is Cloudflare domain. [09:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook's outage proves Elizabeth Warren right: It's time to break up Big Tech | Salon.com [09:18] altlink_cc9 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.salon.com/2021/10/05/facebooks-outage-proves-elizabeth-warren-right-its-time-to-break-up-big-tech/ [09:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Facebook's outage proves Elizabeth Warren right: It's time to break up Big Tech | Salon.com [09:19] techrights-news NEWS #TheHill #Health Four big takeaways from a tough hearing for #Facebook https://thehill.com/policy/technology/575440-four-big-takeaways-from-a-tough-hearing-for-facebook [09:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Four big takeaways from a tough hearing for Facebook | TheHill [09:21] techrights-news #Microsoft #Windodws TCO: #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware NSA director expects to be facing ransomware attacks 'every single day' in five years https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/575386-nsa-director-expects-to-be-facing-ransomware-attacks-every-single-day-in [09:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NSA director expects to be facing ransomware attacks 'every single day' in five years | TheHill [09:22] techrights-news NEWS #TheVerge #ProprietarySoftware Apple shares memorial to #SteveJobs on 10th anniversary of his death https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/5/22710841/apple-steve-jobs-memorial-10-years necro-cult [09:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Apple shares memorial to Steve Jobs on 10th anniversary of his death - The Verge [09:22] techrights-news NEWS #TechRadar #ProprietarySoftware #Python #ransomware strikes virtual machines in 'ultra-high-speed' attacks https://www.techradar.com/sg/news/python-ransomware-strikes-virtual-machines-in-ultra-high-speed-attacks [09:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Python ransomware strikes virtual machines in 'ultra-high-speed' attacks | TechRadar [09:25] techrights-news NEWS #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware International coalition arrests 'prolific' [crackers] involved in ransomware attacks https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/575242-international-coalition-arrests-prolific-hackers-involved-in-ransomware [09:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-International coalition arrests 'prolific' hackers involved in ransomware attacks | TheHill [09:38] techrights-news NEWS #YLE #ProprietarySoftware Finnish security expert: Web services' concentration in Silicon Valley is a weak point https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/finnish_security_expert_web_services_concentration_in_silicon_valley_is_a_weak_point/12129262 [09:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Finnish security expert: Web services' concentration in Silicon Valley is a weak point | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi [09:55] techrights-news NEWS #BetaNews #Surveillance #Privacy #Yubico #YubiKey Bio authentication dongle uses biometrics for added security on Windows, Mac, and Linux https://betanews.com/2021/10/05/yubico-yubikey-bio-biometrics-usb/ [09:55] altlink_cc9 betanews.com is Cloudflare domain. [09:55] altlink_cc9 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://betanews.com/2021/10/05/yubico-yubikey-bio-biometrics-usb/ [09:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Yubico YubiKey Bio authentication dongle uses biometrics for added security on Windows, Mac, and Linux [09:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Yubico YubiKey Bio authentication dongle uses biometrics for added security on Windows, Mac, and Linux [09:55] techrights-news NEWS #NewYorkTimes #Surveillance #Privacy #Facebook Is Weaker Than We Knew https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/technology/facebook-files.html [09:55] altlink_cc9 nytimes.com is Cloudflare domain. [09:55] altlink_cc9 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/technology/facebook-files.html [09:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Facebook Is Weaker Than We Knew - The New York Times [09:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Facebook Is Weaker Than We Knew - The New York Times [09:56] techrights-news NEWS #NewYorkTimes #Surveillance #Privacy #Facebook Live Updates: Whistle-Blower Unites Democrats and Republicans in Calling for Regulation of Facebook https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/10/05/technology/facebook-whistleblower-frances-haugen [09:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | What We Learned from the Facebook Whistleblower Hearing - The New York Times [09:56] altlink_cc9 nytimes.com is Cloudflare domain. [09:56] altlink_cc9 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/10/05/technology/facebook-whistleblower-frances-haugen [09:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | What We Learned from the Facebook Whistleblower Hearing - The New York Times [09:56] techrights-news NEWS #NationalLawReviewUS #Surveillance #Privacy News Scan Finds Multiple Threats to Your Privacy https://www.natlawreview.com/article/news-scan-finds-multiple-threats-to-your-privacy [09:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.natlawreview.com | Privacy Threats: Stalkerware & Law Enforcement Open-Source Intelligence ● Oct 06 [10:15] techrights-news There is a new update at the bottom of https://www.andrewjvpowell.com/articles/get-on-gab/ I do not agree in general; any form of participation in such a site gives it more momentum (same problem in #facebook as well), so better to avoid, not associate, not feed... [10:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.andrewjvpowell.com | Get on Gab | Andrew JV Powell [10:25] *m___ (~Adium@mfgnrw6khgqhe.irc) has joined #techrights [10:27] techrights-news NEWS #PatrickBreyer #FB #Internet #de Pirates: #Facebook Outage Could Have Been Avoided https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/pirates-facebook-outage-could-have-been-avoided/ [10:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patrick-breyer.de | Pirates: Facebook outage could have been avoided Patrick Breyer [10:31] techrights-news Cannot Cast a Ballot for #Hungary , the #CzechRepublic , and #Liechtenstein (Even Whilst Attending for the Vote)? http://techrights.org/2021/10/06/no-vote-while-present/ [10:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Cannot Cast a Ballot for Hungary, the Czech Republic, and Liechtenstein (Even Whilst Attending for the Vote)? | Techrights [10:33] techrights-news Based on #aldi (this week), there are still stock shortages, both of foods and non-foods (things like affordable dish-washing gel; some families cannot afford expensive ones). BUT... the rich are getting RICHER! And giving us vaccine #patent pools and #brexit ... "let the plebs eat xenophobia" [10:33] techrights-news NEWS #NBC #Monopolies #Facebook , #WhatsApp outage an annoyance for U.S., but a big deal in rest of the world https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/facebook-whatsapp-outage-annoyance-u-s-big-deal-rest-world-n1280785 [10:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Facebook, WhatsApp outage an annoyance for U.S., but a big deal in rest of the world [10:36] techrights-news NEWS #RTL #Monopolies #Whistleblower urges #regulation to tackle #Facebook 'crisis' https://today.rtl.lu/news/business-and-tech/a/1797284.html [10:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - Potentially harmful to mental health: Whistleblower urges regulation to tackle Facebook 'crisis' [10:36] techrights-news [Old] #HFT #Copyrights #Copyright French Appeal Court affirms decision that copyright claims on #GPL are invalid; must be enforced via contractual dispute https://thehftguy.com/2021/08/30/french-appeal-court-affirms-decision-that-copyright-claims-on-gpl-are-invalid-must-be-enforced-via-contractual-dispute/ [10:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehftguy.com | French Appeal Court affirms decision that copyright claims on GPL are invalid; must be enforced via contractual dispute The HFT Guy [10:56] techrights-news NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux Growing Raspberry Pis presence in #Africa https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/growing-raspberry-pis-presence-in-africa/ [10:56] altlink_cc9 raspberrypi.org is Cloudflare domain. [10:56] altlink_cc9 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/growing-raspberry-pis-presence-in-africa/ [10:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/growing-raspberry-pis-presence-in-africa/ ) [10:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Growing Raspberry Pi's presence in Africa - Raspberry Pi ● Oct 06 [11:01] techrights-news NEWS #CounterPunch #Assange #Wikileaks #imperialism The #CIA Plot to Kidnap or Kill Julian Assange in London is a Story that is Being Mistakenly Ignored https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/10/05/the-cia-plot-to-kidnap-or-kill-julian-assange-in-london-is-a-story-that-is-being-mistakenly-ignored/ [11:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The CIA Plot to Kidnap or Kill Julian Assange in London is a Story that is Being Mistakenly Ignored - CounterPunch.org [11:02] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #FB In Scathing Senate Testimony, #Whistleblower Warns #Facebook a Threat to Children and Democracy https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/05/scathing-senate-testimony-whistleblower-warns-facebook-threat-children-and-democracy [11:02] altlink_cc9 commondreams.org is Cloudflare domain. [11:02] altlink_cc9 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/05/scathing-senate-testimony-whistleblower-warns-facebook-threat-children-and-democracy [11:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | In Scathing Senate Testimony, Whistleblower Warns Facebook a Threat to Children and Democracy [11:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | In Scathing Senate Testimony, Whistleblower Warns Facebook a Threat to Children and Democracy [11:06] techrights-news 1 hour ago on #ibm #layoffs and #financialEngineering (cooking the books to mislead, i.e. defraud, shareholders): "Vapourware is missing." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d9MMFw9#replies [11:06] altlink_cc9 thelayoff.com is Cloudflare domain. [11:06] altlink_cc9 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d9MMFw9#replies [11:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBMs new reporting structure - post regarding IBM layoffs [11:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | IBMs new reporting structure - post regarding IBM layoffs [11:17] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.05 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 47.66 swarm size (avg): 258.44 [11:23] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@wsg7eaqc7nki8.irc) has joined #techrights [11:35] techrights-news [Meme] #IsabelFrommelt and #EstherSchindler Too Busy to Vote or Even Attend http://techrights.org/2021/10/06/frommelt-schindler-liechtenstein/ #liechtenstein #epo #iloat [11:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Isabel Frommelt and Esther Schindler Too Busy to Vote or Even Attend | Techrights [11:49] techrights-news To be published in #techrights around midnight to=night: The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part IV: The Founding States. #epo #corruption #europe #patents [11:56] *mib_hupsd4 (~47a172bc@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [11:58] techrights-news People don't like to learn that their job is causing deadly pollution (friends don't wish to point this out to them, either) because of "job creation" myths; some jobs are better off not existing at all as they're a net negative (see "bullshit jobs" talk) [11:59] techrights-news NEWS #DemocracyNow #FB Appalling and Unacceptable: Leak Shows #Facebook Knew Its Algorithms Spread Hate & Harmed Children https://www.democracynow.org/2021/10/5/facebook_leak_whistleblower FB and things like it ought not even EXIST. We need to reject them... into bankruptcy. [11:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | Appalling and Unacceptable: Leak Shows Facebook Knew Its Algorithms Spread Hate & Harmed Children | Democracy Now! ● Oct 06 [12:03] techrights-news If you work for #microsoft you participate and profit from #organisedCrime and if you work for #facebook you're a selfish opportunist profiting from an attack on society, seeding discord and misinformation for profit. Hicks: https://tagg.org/Clips/Polit/BillHicksTranscr.html [12:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tagg.org | Bill Hicks transcription from Dominion gig 1992 [12:04] *mib_hupsd4 has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [12:06] techrights-news Best #FreeSW Alternatives to Microsoft Outlook http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156479 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Microsoft Outlook | Tux Machines [12:07] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156480 # #Linux #TuxMachines [12:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:08] techrights-news [old] #iophk : #revisionism omitting the roles of #Intel and #Microsoft in sabotaging #OLPC https://nitter.eu/gauravsingh961/status/1438503323594723343 [12:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Gaurav Singh (@gauravsingh961): "You: Whats the 1 EdTech story that all should know ? Me: One Laptop Per Child (OLPC) You: Why ? Me: Many have heard of it, few know the details of its shocking failure & it is a great example of what I call: The iceberg theory of EdTech But its start was full of promise" | nitter [12:09] techrights-news #intel and #microsoft : #organisedCrime against poor children and charities http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/OLPC #corruption [12:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | OLPC - Techrights [12:10] techrights-news Pervert and #famouscriminal #billgates spiked article (by #bribery as usual) about his role attacking ACTUAL charities: (6-part series, 2020) http://techrights.org/2020/07/16/gates-press-sunset/ [12:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Gates Press (GatesGate) Part VI: Sunsetting for Now | Techrights [12:11] schestowitz https://mastodon.technology/@o0karen0o/107050744820194727 [12:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.technology | Karen Sandler: "@lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz yes, I usually try" - Mastodon for Tech Folks [12:11] schestowitz # sandler :/ [12:13] techrights-news "I'm similarly flabbergasted that every single country's national school organisation (like the US Dept of Ed or NZ Ministry of Ed) haven't implemented BBB across their entire school system. It's criminal negligence, actually." https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/107050753269065541 [12:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.nzoss.nz | Dave Lane: "@o0karen0o@mastodon.technology agreed. I'm simila" - Mastodon - NZOSS [12:14] psydruid the IRC logs look a bit weird on Gemini [12:14] psydruid it would be nice to have a bit longer lines so they aren't cut in two with just a few words on a line by themselves [12:14] psydruid at least with Lagrange [12:14] psydruid I can take a look with Kristall too [12:14] schestowitz-TR let me check [12:16] gustaf are the lines enclosed by ``` ? Clients are inconsistent on how to handle that [12:17] techrights-news Getting rejected. https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/i-got-rejected-%F0%9F%98%A2:e #rossmanngroup [12:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | I got rejected [12:17] schestowitz-TR gustaf: thanks for doing blog posts about gemini :-) [12:17] psydruid I think I needed to make the lines in Kristall longer [12:18] psydruid I've set them from 900px to 1200px [12:18] techrights-news Don't let #zuckerberg and #facebook use the outage as a tool opportunistically leveraged to distract from #fb 'crimes against society' https://www.cbs.com/shows/60_minutes/video/gTIprjUvSYxmAU1Bpqizg5v8rEBj4nF9/10-3-2021-the-facebook-whistleblower-unforgiven-the-final-act/ [12:18] altlink_cc9 cbs.com is Cloudflare domain. [12:18] altlink_cc9 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cbs.com/shows/60_minutes/video/gTIprjUvSYxmAU1Bpqizg5v8rEBj4nF9/10-3-2021-the-facebook-whistleblower-unforgiven-the-final-act/ [12:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Watch 60 Minutes Season 54 Episode 3: 10/3/2021: The Facebook Whistleblower, Unforgiven, The Final Act - Full show on CBS [12:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Watch 60 Minutes Season 54 Episode 3: 10/3/2021: The Facebook Whistleblower, Unforgiven, The Final Act - Full show on CBS [12:18] gustaf schestowitz-TR: it's been fun [12:18] schestowitz-TR psydruid: I did not know it was a problem [12:18] schestowitz-TR I will chck with 4 clients [12:18] schestowitz-TR and 2 versions of lagrange i have running in tandem [12:19] psydruid schestowitz-TR, this screen has a resolution of 1366x768, my normal laptops have 1920x1080 [12:19] psydruid especially lower-end and older machines won't have such high resolutions [12:20] schestowitz-TR psydruid: the real time logs? [12:20] schestowitz-TR or the daily archives? [12:20] psydruid schestowitz-TR, I'm looking at the real-time logs now [12:22] psydruid I'm also decreasing font sizes in Kristall, as everything just looks too large [12:23] schestowitz-TR it looks ok in lagrance 1.2.x/1.1.x [12:23] schestowitz-TR it line-breaks long URLs [12:24] schestowitz-TR reflows when window resized [12:24] schestowitz-TR looks perfect in telescope [12:24] schestowitz-TR moonlander also [12:25] schestowitz-TR what verion of lagrange are you using [12:25] schestowitz page in question: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/chat/index.gmi [12:25] psydruid 1.6.3 [12:25] psydruid I'll get the latest version [12:25] schestowitz-TR let me try.. [12:26] schestowitz-TR reflows OK in latest lagrange also [12:26] schestowitz-TR I use its appimage [12:26] psydruid maybe I need to adjust some settings for this screen [12:27] schestowitz maybe [12:27] schestowitz side rant: [12:27] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [12:27] schestowitz since the very start, lagrange has a tendency to break kde/kwin compositor if used in certain ways [12:27] schestowitz I can restart the compositor but still slightly annoying [12:28] schestowitz I assume it's maybe how SDL does "smooth" scrollin [12:28] techrights-news #vps upside https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/server-hosting-provider's-most-underused:6 [12:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Server Hosting Provider's Most Underused Feature [12:29] DaemonFC https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Zstd-Linux-5.16-Plans [12:29] altlink_cc9 phoronix.com is Cloudflare domain. [12:29] altlink_cc9 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Zstd-Linux-5.16-Plans [12:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Updated Zstd Planned For Linux 5.16 With Better Performance - Phoronix [12:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Updated Zstd Planned For Linux 5.16 With Better Performance - Phoronix [12:29] DaemonFC Might be worth switching zram or zswap to zstd in Linux 5.16. [12:29] schestowitz-TR FB yay! [12:29] DaemonFC If the new code is 30% faster. [12:29] schestowitz-TR maybe it'll help destabilise the kernel like it does society :-) [12:30] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I was considering trying out Rocky Linux on the older laptop. [12:30] DaemonFC But it's a pain to install. You know, CentOS had Live images. [12:30] DaemonFC I don't know what happened to those after the RH takeover. [12:30] psydruid I needed to set the line style in Lagrange to "Fill" [12:31] psydruid it looks much better now [12:31] DaemonFC https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Sony-More-Open-Source-2021 [12:31] altlink_cc9 phoronix.com is Cloudflare domain. [12:31] altlink_cc9 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Sony-More-Open-Source-2021 [12:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sony Has Begun Accelerating Their Contributions To Open-Source / Linux - Phoronix [12:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Sony Has Begun Accelerating Their Contributions To Open-Source / Linux - Phoronix [12:32] DaemonFC "Hiroyuki Fukuchi and Kazumi Sato of Sony had an interesting presentation about how they have utilized open-source/Linux over the past two decades in their consumer electronics and how their relationship with open-source has evolved over that time." [12:32] schestowitz-TR psydruid: OK, at least we know some caveats now [12:32] DaemonFC Did they include a slide about violating the license of LAME to implement Windows malware in 2005? [12:32] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:33] DaemonFC Or the various GPL violations they committed regarding the Linux kernel, and the only people willing to fight back were busybox developers, so Sony promoted toybox. [12:34] schestowitz-TR toybox? [12:34] schestowitz-TR real thing or joke? [12:34] DaemonFC toybox is a bsd-licensed replacement for busybox. [12:35] *chunky (~chunky@kcmuc6rr58tti.irc) has joined #techrights [12:35] DaemonFC Sony funded the development because busybox was enforcing the GPL. [12:35] schestowitz-TR now it can fund LF to attack GPL [12:35] schestowitz-TR even shared resources [12:36] schestowitz-TR FB and Microsoft will fund the LF also [12:36] schestowitz-TR shared agenda [12:37] techrights-news Yarmo: "Facebook just scored the Big Tech Hattrick" - Fosstodon https://fosstodon.org/@yarmo/107047769621340986 #yarmo [12:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fosstodon.org | Yarmo: "Facebook just scored the Big Tech Hattrick - G" - Fosstodon [12:37] DaemonFC Toybox was pretty much created to facilitate GPL violations. [12:37] DaemonFC It's in Android too. [12:38] techrights-news Tonight's #epo article is ready to go. #techrights will publish it midnight (if I stay awake that long). #corruption being exposed is prerequisite to corruption being TACKLED. #europe #patents [12:39] DaemonFC http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Controversy-around-Busybox-alternative-1426119.html [12:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.h-online.com | Controversy around Busybox alternative - The H Open: News and Features [12:39] DaemonFC "The proposal by Sony's Tim Bird explicitly says that one of the reasons for creating a non-GPL version is to avoid the possibility of litigation by the SFC." [12:41] techrights-news iophk: don't let #Microsoft write the definition, instead include Microsoft in that ... https://www.salon.com/2021/10/05/facebooks-outage-proves-elizabeth-warren-right-its-time-to-break-up-big-tech/ "big tech" = Microsoft propaganda: http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/ [12:41] altlink_cc9 salon.com is Cloudflare domain. [12:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook's outage proves Elizabeth Warren right: It's time to break up Big Tech | Salon.com [12:41] altlink_cc9 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.salon.com/2021/10/05/facebooks-outage-proves-elizabeth-warren-right-its-time-to-break-up-big-tech/ [12:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights [12:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Facebook's outage proves Elizabeth Warren right: It's time to break up Big Tech | Salon.com [12:43] techrights-news Mini Pupper Raspberry Pi 4-based robot dog teaches ROS, SLAM, navigation, computer vision (Crowdfunding) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156477#comment-31264 [12:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pi-based doggie bot hops and trots its way to Kickstarter success | Tux Machines [12:44] techrights-news #Debian -based #MXLinux 21 RC is here to spoil Microsoft's big #vista11 launch party http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156464#comment-31263 [12:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MX Linux 21 Release Candidate Readied for Public Testing with Xfce, KDE Plasma, and Fluxbox Flavors | Tux Machines [12:50] techrights-news #privatization #privatisation https://neritam.wordpress.com/2021/10/05/the-truth-about-privatization/ [12:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | The Truth About Privatization neritam [12:51] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [12:54] techrights-news What Happened to #Facebook , #Instagram , & #WhatsApp h - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/breakingnews/article.pl?sid=21/10/04/1946240#1184261 #soylentnews on the monster that many keep feeding; if the stopped, this monster would die very fast [12:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | What Happened to Facebook, Instagram, & WhatsApp? - SoylentNews [12:55] techrights-news Gabriel Moreau: "French Appeal Court affirms decision" - Framapiaf https://framapiaf.org/@MoreauGabriel/107027339068882496 #MoreauGabriel #copyright #copyleft #gpl [12:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-framapiaf.org | Gabriel Moreau: "French Appeal Court affirms decision that copyrig" - Framapiaf [12:56] techrights-news I will name and shame every 'Linux' blog I find shilling #vista11 knowing that #microsoft is now bribing a lot of people to do this. We need to know the sellouts. [12:58] techrights-news 2008: Partial Index: Summary of Bribed Sites, Journalists, and Bloggers (Vista 7) http://techrights.org/2008/11/10/summary-of-the-ms-bribed/ #Techrights #microsoft #windows #bribery #vista7 | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2008/11/10/summary-of-the-ms-bribed/ [12:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Partial Index: Summary of Bribed Sites, Journalists, and Bloggers (Vista 7) | Techrights [12:58] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Court Orders Universe #IPTV to Pay DISH $7m in Copyright Infringement Damages https://torrentfreak.com/court-orders-universe-iptv-to-pay-dish-7m-in-copyright-infringement-damages-211005/ [12:58] altlink_cc9 torrentfreak.com is Cloudflare domain. 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[12:58] altlink_cc9 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-piracy-is-hollywoods-greatest-threat-but-site-blocking-helps-211005/ [12:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MPA: Piracy is Hollywood's Greatest Threat But Site Blocking Helps * TorrentFreak [12:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | MPA: Piracy is Hollywood's Greatest Threat But Site Blocking Helps * TorrentFreak [12:59] schestowitz-TR wow TR uses clownflare? [12:59] schestowitz-TR this is really bad [12:59] schestowitz-TR they should know better [12:59] schestowitz-TR clownflare already censors for the copyright cartel [12:59] schestowitz-TR I mean, TF [12:59] schestowitz-TR not TR [12:59] schestowitz-TR TorrentFreak ● Oct 06 [13:00] MinceR 06 045951 < activelow> that's why, an excess dependency graph is dangerous. alot of things depend on qt, including stuff i wished had remained. Such as LyX, wysiwag editor for TeX. [13:00] MinceR or why the community should never trust a suit ever again [13:00] techrights-news A handful of #FOSS alternatives to #Zoom. #jitsi #p2p #wire #BigBlueButton #signal https://mastodon.sdf.org/@claudiom/107003987510681408 [13:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.sdf.org | ClaudioM: "A handful of #FOSS alternatives to #Zoom. #jitsi " - Mastodon @ SDF [13:02] schestowitz-TR MinceR: qt? [13:03] schestowitz-TR tolltech of norway? [13:03] schestowitz-TR nokia is finl./.. I mean, Microsoft [13:03] schestowitz-TR what toolkit does kile use? [13:03] schestowitz-TR lyx is a very early example of qt in freesw [13:04] schestowitz-TR iirc, predating even kde [13:04] MinceR if it's a kde application, it uses qt [13:04] schestowitz-TR created by the same person [13:04] schestowitz-TR meme (wonka): oh, you use kde? that's qt... [13:06] techrights-news "Once more for the folks on the fediverse: speak up, make some noise, tell orgs/companies that you value your privacy and dont want it violated. If their business model isnt based on violating it (like Google/FB/etc.)" https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/107048916047736751 [13:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "Once more for the folks on the fediverse: speak u" - Arals Mastodon [13:07] *CParadoxum_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:07] techrights-news The toxic optimism emanating out from Silicon Valleythe enduring conceit that whatever makes me into a billionaire is, by a handy miracle, guaranteed to be of incalculable benefit to society. (and sometimes #cia -subsidised, for whose benefit?) https://xoxo.zone/@ilovecomputers/107051568042620602 [13:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xoxo.zone | aka Compy-chan: "The toxic optimism emanating out from Silicon Va" - XOXO Zone [13:09] techrights-news Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156481 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [13:12] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #FB Progressives Respond to #Facebook Outage With Simple Call: 'Break Them Up' https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/05/progressives-respond-facebook-outage-simple-call-break-them no, shut the fucker(berg) down... quit in droves. It has NO ALTERNATIVE business model or fallback, so it would collapse... poor used would 'lose' what they THOUGHT were their 'friends'... [13:12] altlink_cc9 commondreams.org is Cloudflare domain. 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[13:32] altlink_cc9 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/05/critics-say-facebook-must-be-investigated-audited-regulated-and-stopped [13:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Critics Say Facebook 'Must Be Investigated, Audited, Regulated, and Stopped' [13:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Critics Say Facebook 'Must Be Investigated, Audited, Regulated, and Stopped' [13:35] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Facebook #FB Rethinking Facebook: We Need To Make Sure That 'Good For The World' Is More Important Than 'Good For Facebook' https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211004/17543247698/rethinking-facebook-we-need-to-make-sure-that-good-world-is-more-important-than-good-facebook.shtml [13:35] altlink_cc9 techdirt.com is Cloudflare domain. [13:35] altlink_cc9 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211004/17543247698/rethinking-facebook-we-need-to-make-sure-that-good-world-is-more-important-than-good-facebook.shtml [13:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rethinking Facebook: We Need To Make Sure That 'Good For The World' Is More Important Than 'Good For Facebook' | Techdirt [13:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Rethinking Facebook: We Need To Make Sure That 'Good For The World' Is More Important Than 'Good For Facebook' | Techdirt [13:37] *altlink_cc9 has quit (connection closed) [13:38] *altlink_cc9 (~altlink_cc9@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #techrights [13:41] *altlink_cc9 has quit (connection closed) [13:41] *__martin__ (~d551ad6a@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [13:41] *altlink_cc9 (~altlink_cc9@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #techrights [13:42] *altlink_cc9 has quit (connection closed) [13:42] *altlink_cc9 (~altlink_cc9@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #techrights [13:43] *altlink_cc9 has quit (connection closed) [13:43] *altlink_cc9 (~altlink_cc9@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #techrights [13:43] MinceR (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/3I1gKLG [13:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Some mainecoon I have stole - Album on Imgur [13:43] altlink_cc9 imgur.com is Cloudflare domain. [13:43] altlink_cc9 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://imgur.com/t/cats/3I1gKLG [13:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Some mainecoon I have stole - Album on Imgur [13:44] *altlink_cc9 has quit (connection closed) [13:45] schestowitz MinceR: https://i.imgur.com/useuLw5.jpeg [13:45] schestowitz it looks like some monkey sitting [13:48] MinceR not really [13:49] schestowitz supercat [13:49] schestowitz with a cape almost, at least a gown [13:50] techrights-news The mystery of national delegates failing to have an opinion on the unlawful "Strike Regulations" and instead of abstaining on the record simply not voting at all http://techrights.org/2021/10/06/no-vote-while-present/ #Techrights #EPO #corruption #europe #hungary | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/06/no-vote-while-present/ [13:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Cannot Cast a Ballot for Hungary, the Czech Republic, and Liechtenstein (Even Whilst Attending for the Vote)? | Techrights [13:51] techrights-news According to the #EPO records, nobody attended the meeting on behalf of #Liechtenstein and it is not clear on what grounds the nominated representatives absented themselves http://techrights.org/2021/10/06/frommelt-schindler-liechtenstein/ #Techrights #europe #corruption #epo | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/06/frommelt-schindler-liechtenstein/ [13:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Isabel Frommelt and Esther Schindler Too Busy to Vote or Even Attend | Techrights [13:52] techrights-news #IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, October 05, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/10/06/irc-log-051021/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/06/irc-log-051021/ [13:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, October 05, 2021 | Techrights [13:53] techrights-news #Wasteland 3: Cult of the Holy Detonation is out now | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/wasteland-3-cult-of-the-holy-detonation-is-out-now #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [13:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wasteland 3: Cult of the Holy Detonation is out now | GamingOnLinux [13:54] techrights-news "Valve has now released the latest Halloween themed event for the still popular free shooter Team Fortress 2. Scream Fortress XIII brings with it plenty of new goodies!" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/scream-fortress-xiii-is-live-in-the-free-to-play-team-fortress-2 [13:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Scream Fortress XIII is live in the free to play Team Fortress 2 | GamingOnLinux [13:55] DaemonFC If GNOME had nothing but avoiding Qt, that would be reason enough to prefer it. [13:55] techrights-news Wine (still) needs 32-bit MP3 plug-in from Gstreamer that the package doesnt depend on in order to play MP3 in certain Bethesda video games. Gaming on Debian 11 GNU/Linux. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/05/wine-still-needs-32-bit-mp3-plug-in-from-gstreamer-that-the-package-doesnt-depend-on-in-order-to-play-mp3-in-certain-bethesda-video-games-gaming-on-debian-11-gnu-linux/ #baronhk [13:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Wine (still) needs 32-bit MP3 plug-in from Gstreamer that the package doesnt depend on in order to play MP3 in certain Bethesda video games. Gaming on Debian 11 GNU/Linux. BaronHK's Rants [13:56] DaemonFC At least we're not in much danger of GTK being lost to a proprietary software company that says they're going to do this because of COVID-19. [13:56] techrights-news "In June, Nvidia announced the support for DLSS in Linux via Steam Proton and a beta driver for Vulkan-based games." https://news.itsfoss.com/nvidia-dlss-dx-11-12-proton/ [13:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.itsfoss.com | DirectX 11/12 Games like Cyberpunk 2077 Can Use NVIDIA DLSS With Proton Experimental on Linux - It's FOSS News [13:57] DaemonFC It's nice of The Qt Company to hop on the "Let's do something terrible to you and blame it on COVID." bandwagon. [13:58] schestowitz-TR yes, exactly [13:58] schestowitz-TR mozilla did that too [13:58] schestowitz-TR because during pandemic people stop using web browsers ;-) [13:59] DaemonFC The Qt Company was getting more out of the Free Software people than the Free Software people were getting out of the company. [13:59] MinceR GTK is already lost to a proprietary software company called IBM [13:59] techrights-news PostgreSQL: #PGroonga 2.3.2 https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgroonga-232-2321/ #postgresql [13:59] DaemonFC The best thing to do now would be fork it and make new contributions LGPL only. [13:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: PGroonga 2.3.2 ● Oct 06 [14:00] DaemonFC Then let The Qt Company's version bitrot. [14:00] DaemonFC Cedega them. [14:01] techrights-news Dirk Eddelbuettel: #littler 0.3.14: Updates http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2021/10/05#littler-0.3.14 #freesw #programming #deletegithub http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [14:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dirk.eddelbuettel.com | Thinking inside the box [14:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [14:03] techrights-news #Yubico #YubiKey https://betanews.com/2021/10/05/yubico-yubikey-bio-biometrics-usb/ but does that improve real #security by much or just expensive security theatre? http://techrights.org/2020/10/15/fido-false-sense-of-security/ [14:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Yubico YubiKey Bio authentication dongle uses biometrics for added security on Windows, Mac, and Linux [14:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A FIDO/FIDO2 False Sense of Security for Premium Prices | Techrights [14:05] techrights-news #mintcast 371 Rounded Corners https://mintcast.org/2021/10/06/371-rounded-corners/ #gnu #linux [14:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mintcast.org | 371 Rounded Corners mintCast [14:08] techrights-news #billBC - #billgates and #microsoft marketing apparatus that BRITISH taxpayers and #billgates are CO-funding. #bbc = corrupt. ONLY AFTER Jimmy Savile's death they talked about his pedophila and they still don't cover Bill'S connections to Jeffrey Epstein. [14:19] *inky (~inky@141.136.77.253) has joined #techrights [14:20] techrights-news Corporate thugs "Apple, Amazon, Disney, Google and Microsoft give support to right-wing organizations that lobby against the Build Back Better act." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#5_October_2021_%28Lobbying_against_the_Build_Back_Better_act%29 [14:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [14:22] techrights-news #guardian : we don't always do journalism. When we pretend that we do, we help the #cia kidnap Julian #assange , based on lies, so they can ASSASSINATE journalists. BONUS: 'guardian' takes bribes from Bill "well, he's dead" Gates http://techrights.org/2021/09/23/bill-gates-he-is-dead/ [14:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Bill Gates Keeps Digging Himself Deeper in the Grave Each Time He Speaks | Techrights [14:22] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [14:27] techrights-news " #plocate 1.1.12 has been released, with some minor bugfixes and a minor new option." http://blog.sesse.net/blog/tech/2021-10-05-23-09_plocate_1_1_12_released.html #programming #gnu #linux [14:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.sesse.net | Steinar H. Gunderson [14:28] techrights-news RMS: "Mergers, deregulation and "free trade" made the economy vulnerable to today's supply-chain problems and shortages." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#5_October_2021_%28Supply-chain_problems%29 [14:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [14:29] techrights-news RMS: "Research into use of #Twitter , and mathematical modeling, show that its structural tendency is to encourage #polarization and formation of camps that are hostile to each other" https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#5_October_2021_(Twitter's_structural_tendency) what we all knew already: http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/twitter-cancel-culture/ [14:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [14:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Social Control Media: Where Cancel Culture Thrives | Techrights [14:30] techrights-news "Its the worst time ever to upgrade or buy a new PC, so we cover our favorite tips for getting the most out of your current hardware. Then we pit a 2014 desktop against a 2021 laptop and find out if our old clunker can beat the Thinkpad." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/146347/this-old-linux-pc-linux-unplugged-426/ [14:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | This Old Linux PC | LINUX Unplugged 426 | Jupiter Broadcasting [14:31] *phebus (~phebus@f95gnd3zj7732.irc) has joined #techrights [14:32] techrights-news As heat waves intensify, tens of thousands of US classrooms will be too hot for students to learn https://theconversation.com/as-heat-waves-intensify-tens-of-thousands-of-us-classrooms-will-be-too-hot-for-students-to-learn-in-164761 #school #education [14:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theconversation.com | As heat waves intensify, tens of thousands of US classrooms will be too hot for students to learn in [14:34] techrights-news "Yet a Free Software license is not about the freedom of the producers, it is about the freedom of the consumers. FSFE's sponsors past and present include Google, IBM, HP, Intel and Microsoft" https://danielpocock.com/google-fsfe-child-labor/ [14:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danielpocock.com | Google, FSFE & Child labor [14:35] techrights-news Good excuse to over-charge people? https://linuxinsider.com/story/chip-shortages-likely-to-linger-through-2022-87292.html [14:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chip Shortages Likely To Linger Through 2022 - LinuxInsider [14:36] techrights-news "Uyghurs report on the cameras in their homes and prison cells. These cameras now do face recognition and more general ethnic group recognition." We in the West have the same thing! It's called "Alexa", "Siri", "Cortana" etc. #surveillance #listeningDevices #spying https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#5_October_2021_%28Cameras_in_Uyghurs_homes%29 [14:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [14:40] techrights-news 48 mins ago, #ibm #layoffs (and general collapse): "With Rob "10 seconds" Thomas at the helm for Sales , there is only one way for earnings to go and that's DOWN. You gotta love his Mon AM pep emails. Chock full of insight and inspiration." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d7cgO15#replies [14:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Q3 Earnings Predictions - post regarding IBM layoffs [14:41] techrights-news #ibm is #censorship (not only of words) http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/ibm-denial/ [14:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Edwin Black Explains Why IBM Was the Worst and the Only One to Obstruct His Research (Into IBMs Dark Past) | Techrights [14:42] techrights-news #ibm founded by a fraudster (found guilty) who had supported Hitler and was convicted on extortion (2021 interview) http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/edwin-black-2021/ [14:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | New Interview With Edwin Black: IBM Has Never Apologised, Instead It Hid Its Role in Nazi Germany | Techrights [14:44] techrights-news New: #financialEngineering (cheating shareholders) at #ibm "new reporting structure if followed thru with effective management was needed badly. They dumped 25% of the revenue but only gave up 1 billion in free cash flow (Not a bad trade)" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d9MMFw9#replies [14:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBMs new reporting structure - post regarding IBM layoffs [14:45] techrights-news We can trust #ibm with #gnu #linux just about as we can trust #billgates and his sidekick #JeffreyEpstein around children. Stop putting trust in those who deserve none. [14:45] *inky_ (~inky@178.78.138.62) has joined #techrights [14:49] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) ● Oct 06 [15:00] techrights-news #ProprietarySoftware and Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156482 #TuxMachines [15:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software and Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:00] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156483 [15:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:01] techrights-news #OpenHardware /Modding http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156484 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding | Tux Machines [15:01] techrights-news #Games Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156485 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:01] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156486 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [15:02] techrights-news #Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156487 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [15:02] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [15:02] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:06] techrights-news Links 6/10/2021: MX Linux 21 RC, #plocate 1.1.12, Facebook Under Fire http://techrights.org/2021/10/06/facebook-under-fire/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/06/facebook-under-fire/ [15:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/10/2021: MX Linux 21 RC, plocate 1.1.12, Facebook Under Fire | Techrights [15:14] DaemonFC https://screenrant.com/dune-1984-david-lynch-cult-classic-good-bad/ [15:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-screenrant.com | Dune: 5 Ways The David Lynch Movie Isn't So Bad (& 5 Ways It Really Is) [15:15] DaemonFC Watching a fanedit of the movie now. [15:15] DaemonFC He cleaned it up a little, but it's still not great. [15:15] DaemonFC The big budget shows, but there's too much expositional dialog and dry acting. [15:16] DaemonFC I hope the new movie this month is much better. Hell, even the Sci-Fi Channel Mini-Series (which got a sequel) is better than this. [15:17] techrights-news #kDE and #freeBSD star Adriaan de Groot changes priorities due to health in the family https://euroquis.nl//blabla/2021/10/05/break.html [15:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-euroquis.nl | On Break | [bobulate] [15:17] DaemonFC I can't fathom how the 1984 movie wasn't a Lawrence of Arabia. You can see where it tried, but David Lynch and the script writers went ahead with something that should have been a draft. [15:18] DaemonFC Of all the things the movie could complain of though, a "white savior".... Really? [15:19] techrights-news " #China lends millions of dollars to non-state entities in many non-rich countries, to conceal the loans from the World Bank." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#5_October_2021_%28China_conceals_loans%29 [15:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [15:20] techrights-news #ProprietarySoftware just doing what it does: leaving gaping holes https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2021/10/05/cisa-releases-security-advisory-honeywell-experion-and-ace [15:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-us-cert.cisa.gov | CISA Releases Security Advisory for Honeywell Experion and ACE Controllers | CISA [15:20] DaemonFC T.E. Lawrence would have been exactly that if the Arabs didn't fall into petty squabling and let the British government steamroll them after they succeeded in their uprising. [15:20] DaemonFC But in the film adaptation, they explained why it happened. [15:21] DaemonFC Like, literally the first thing they did was occupy the Turkish government buildings and then they couldn't figure out basic civil engineering. [15:21] techrights-news #belarus and Luka compete with #russia and #putin ... who's more oppressive? https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/belarusian-security-forces-detain-50-people-over-social-media-posts-minsk-2021-09-30/ [15:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Belarusian security forces detain 50 people over social media posts on Minsk shooting: rights group | Reuters [15:21] techrights-news A Monster in the Heart: Edward Mays *A Most Certaine and True Relation* (1639) The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/heart-serpent/ #publicdomainreview #publicdomain [15:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | A Monster in the Heart: Edward Mays *A Most Certaine and True Relation* (1639) The Public Domain Review [15:24] techrights-news #spamfarms capitalising on "linux" 'training' or 'certifications' are plaguing the #www ... and they're not even about #gnu #linux [15:26] DaemonFC One thing about the Sci-Fi Channel Mini-Series I liked was that the baron wasn't just completely one dimensional and stupid. [15:27] DaemonFC Hopefully someone will quickly do a webrip of the movie remake. [15:27] DaemonFC I'm guessing it happens fast. [15:27] techrights-news "Resemblance to the history of open source was rarely why I read these books." He's among the #gnu deniers and corporate revisioinists of so-called "open source"... pretending #freesw was never a thing. https://lu.is/blog/2021/10/05/notes-on-histories/ [15:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lu.is | Notes on histories Luis Villa: Open Tech and Policy [15:28] DaemonFC http://techrights.org/2021/10/06/no-vote-while-present/ [15:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Cannot Cast a Ballot for Hungary, the Czech Republic, and Liechtenstein (Even Whilst Attending for the Vote)? | Techrights [15:29] DaemonFC "Basically the opposite of inclusive." [15:29] DaemonFC Exclusive? [15:29] techrights-news "You are the engine that propels the vehicle of your career." #ibm #redhat would be wise to advise its workers to seek employment elsewhere now. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/9/it-careers-5-ways-move-forward [15:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | IT careers: 5 ways to get out of a rut | The Enterprisers Project [15:30] *__martin__ has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [15:40] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:40] *Techrights-sec2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:40] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:50] DaemonFC schestowitz, T-Mobile said the Trash Can was a WiFi 6 device. [15:50] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [15:50] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [15:51] *libertybox (~schestowitz_log@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [15:51] DaemonFC But it's way too unstable to use in that set up, even in mixed mode where it should figure everything out. [15:51] DaemonFC Maybe I'll try again with a newer kernel. [15:52] DaemonFC Debian Testing got 5.14, so maybe not too much longer until Backports does. [15:59] *noteness (~noteness@user/noteness) has joined #techrights ● Oct 06 [16:00] DaemonFC https://wiki.debian.org/HowToUpgradeKernel [16:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.debian.org | HowToUpgradeKernel - Debian Wiki [16:00] *noteness has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:00] DaemonFC The Debian Wiki does mention cherry picking Sid kernels. [16:00] DaemonFC Unsupported, but it's something you can do. [16:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [16:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.90 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 5.81 swarm size (avg): 258.43 [16:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.90 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 5.81 swarm size (avg): 258.43 [16:09] *CrystalMath (~coderain@wsm7twsb46d7s.irc) has joined #techrights [16:28] techrights-news Very neat. https://hackaday.com/2021/10/05/mini-camera-crane-for-your-workbench/ [16:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mini Camera Crane For Your Workbench | Hackaday [16:30] *Techrights-sec has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) [16:30] *schestowitz-TR has quit (connection closed) [16:31] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [16:31] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [16:37] techrights-news Human being super-stupid and self-harming https://hackaday.com/2021/10/05/yes-you-can-put-out-a-burning-gas-well-with-a-nuclear-bomb/ [16:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Yes, You Can Put Out A Burning Gas Well With A Nuclear Bomb | Hackaday [16:43] techrights-news #RaspberryPi Plots World Wide Earthquakes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156488 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Plots World Wide Earthquakes | Tux Machines [16:59] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/776083.jpg ● Oct 06 [17:01] schestowitz LOL [17:01] schestowitz I know the feeling [17:01] schestowitz CS is a bunch of cheater and a-holes [17:01] schestowitz *cheaters [17:01] schestowitz at least was... when I played it [17:02] MinceR it also lacks depth [17:02] MinceR flat maps, pretty much only hitscan, boring and slow movement [17:03] MinceR pretty much the entire tFPS genre is like that [17:06] schestowitz-TR yes, it sucks [17:06] schestowitz-TR little progress since innovative wolfenstein [17:07] schestowitz-TR just more polygems and pixels [17:07] schestowitz-TR *gons [17:09] MinceR wolfenstein 3-d? plenty of progress was made since then [17:09] MinceR in doom, doom2 and quake [17:09] MinceR and in xonotic :> [17:09] schestowitz-TR yes, but gradual [17:09] schestowitz-TR progressive improvements [17:09] schestowitz-TR than came ray-tracing [17:09] MinceR wolfenstein 3-d was gradual too [17:09] schestowitz-TR but it's just power hog [17:09] MinceR hovertank 3-d and catacomb 3-d predate it after all :> [17:09] schestowitz-TR catacomb -- i remember.. [17:10] techrights-news #Fwupd 1.7 Adds Support for Logitech Devices with the Unified Battery Feature, More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156489 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fwupd 1.7 Adds Support for Logitech Devices with the Unified Battery Feature, More | Tux Machines [17:10] MinceR the catacomb 3d adventure series (abyss, armageddon, apocalypse) were some of my favorites [17:10] schestowitz-TR same here... [17:11] schestowitz-TR now they just do it like high-budget films with shitty storyline [17:11] schestowitz-TR like "Civil War" [17:11] schestowitz-TR shit film [17:11] schestowitz-TR Captain Murica [17:11] schestowitz-TR "look, we shrew lots of stupid characters into the same flick" [17:12] schestowitz-TR covid10 ended that [17:12] schestowitz-TR the notion that out-budgeting thew others will yield returns [17:12] schestowitz-TR people don't go to cinemas now [17:12] MinceR good [17:12] MinceR better not feed the MPAA [17:12] schestowitz-TR yeah [17:12] schestowitz-TR also better for the planet [17:12] schestowitz-TR less pollution [17:12] MinceR the MPAA convinced me not to go to cinemas [17:13] schestowitz-TR they still have their used and consumers [17:13] schestowitz-TR they call em "pirates" [17:15] psydruid GPUs should be getting smaller, use less power and become cheaper [17:15] schestowitz-TR MinceR: I know what you will like [17:15] psydruid but the opposite is happening [17:15] schestowitz-TR CS:Cinema Editon [17:16] psydruid so it's one big lol [17:16] schestowitz-TR where the shootings are in public places [17:16] schestowitz-TR and people stop going to cinemas [17:16] MinceR Postal2 and Postal4 do that better already [17:16] schestowitz-TR psydruid: they get cheap [17:16] schestowitz-TR the integrated onboard ones [17:16] schestowitz-TR same for sound cards [17:16] schestowitz-TR no more Creative [17:17] schestowitz-TR but some people still buy hypePhones [17:17] psydruid yes, onboard is the way forward [17:17] schestowitz-TR and other "premium" items [17:17] psydruid one of my managers at a previous company came from Creative [17:17] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.25 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 43.53 swarm size (avg): 258.41 [17:17] MinceR USB sound devices are still less noisy than onboard ones [17:17] MinceR and creative still makes some of those [17:18] MinceR i also got a creative soundbar :> [17:18] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I think Microsoft paid whoever owns The Verge quite well. [17:18] psydruid I also had a Creative USB 1.1 soundcard, probably still have it somewhere [17:18] schestowitz-TR they may always find idiots who overpay for things, like $2000 handbags [17:18] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: they did before [17:18] schestowitz-TR Gates was their editor [17:18] DaemonFC They're off covering the ice cream at Microsoft's fake party, while people are already complaining that Windows "11" won't even install, or corrupts things if it does. [17:18] schestowitz DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2020/07/16/gates-press-sunset/ [17:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Gates Press (GatesGate) Part VI: Sunsetting for Now | Techrights [17:19] psydruid I bought that when my laptop's onboard sound died while being abroad [17:19] DaemonFC Sound cards kind of stopped being a thing for most people a long time ago. [17:19] DaemonFC The Intel HDA codec is fine. [17:20] schestowitz-TR there are ""hi-fi" cultists [17:21] psydruid I have a Firewire audio interface somewhere too for use with my guitar [17:21] MinceR later laptops tend to have a combo jack for microphone and speakers, so i tend to use usb audio devices instead, at least while i'm at home [17:24] techrights-news [Meme] [Teaser] The Seven Nations and the Six Nations http://techrights.org/2021/10/06/six-nations/ #europe #corruption #epo #patents #epc [17:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] [Teaser] The Seven Nations and the Six Nations | Techrights [17:24] schestowitz-TR psydruid: darn, there was another thing I was about to say but forgot [17:24] schestowitz-TR happens when you juggle too many things at once [17:25] schestowitz-TR 7 screens, writing an article while on IRC [17:25] schestowitz-TR but... your assertion fi refutable [17:25] schestowitz-TR we get more done on smaller devices for lower prices [17:25] schestowitz-TR paying $50 for a starting point modem was no fun [17:25] psydruid I was talking about discrete GPUs [17:25] schestowitz-TR now you get a whole computer for that price, with headphone jack and 4 USB ports included [17:25] psydruid those are being pushed into the high-end [17:25] schestowitz-TR to get on IRC I needed to buy a modem [17:26] schestowitz-TR computers were not cheap, either [17:26] psydruid and become unaffordable to most people [17:26] schestowitz-TR the "premium market" is a fashion bullshit, not limited to computing fetish [17:26] DaemonFC Invidious instances don't work quite right on GNOME Web. [17:26] psydruid x86 computers are being pushed into that high end too [17:27] DaemonFC Seeking is broken and some videos play for a while then jump to the end. [17:27] schestowitz-TR like Madame Macron buying $700 sneakers for having the Louis Vuitton brand on them [17:27] psydruid not for technical reasons, but because the market doesn't function properly [17:27] DaemonFC If it's protected by the "API" that Youtube-DL has to figure out, it won't load at all. [17:27] schestowitz-TR maybe they need to do cpu-intensive tyhings [17:27] schestowitz-TR like browsing 'the web' [17:28] schestowitz-TR facebook with 2GB of RAM for one tab scrolled for a minutes oir two [17:28] schestowitz-TR that's their fault for being serfs [17:29] DaemonFC I backed out the bullseye backport of WebkitGTK 2.34 [17:29] DaemonFC I loaded Youtube and it was all green and shit. [17:29] DaemonFC And I was like "Oh what the hell is this?". [17:30] techrights-news "On October 1, 2021, Unified filed a petition for inter partes review (IPR) against U.S. Patent 9,376,076, owned and asserted by Joseph Y. Yoon IP LLC. The '076 #patent is generally directed to airbag deployment technology currently being asserted against Toyota." #ptab #uspto (maybe) #swpats https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/10/4/joseph-yoon-patent-challenged [17:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Joseph Yoon patent challenged Unified Patents [17:31] techrights-news Years ago #wipo threatened #watchtroll over leaks and now Watchtroll is doing ads for them: "WIPO is Seeking a Senior Advisor, IP and Gender." IP is a propaganda term and a lie. And that has NOTHING to do with gender. They're #femmewashing #monopolies now... just to seem "woke". [17:32] schestowitz-TR psydruid: the price/power debate is a SUPER-interesting one [17:32] DaemonFC https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T_huLzhCpqU [17:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | A Look at Linux from 20 Years Ago - OpenLinux Installation & Overview - Invidious [17:32] schestowitz-TR it got my brain buffer-overloaded asnd then distracted by my article ^_^ [17:32] schestowitz-TR I think it is TOTALLY a 'tech rights' issue [17:32] schestowitz-TR one that we barely covered [17:32] schestowitz-TR ecology, waste, reuse [17:32] schestowitz-TR we need to do articles about those things [17:33] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC helped us do articles about modern 'cars' [17:33] schestowitz-TR many aspects of these are becoming an obvious threat to civil society now [17:33] DaemonFC Old ones, they may rust away, but mechanically you can just keep replacing parts if you want. [17:33] DaemonFC If you live in a fair weather state, they can go on for a very long time. [17:33] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: give falkon a kde on a try [17:33] schestowitz-TR not many people on the web reviewed it... very few did [17:34] schestowitz-TR it's mostly david rocsa or rosca working on it [17:35] DaemonFC Nah. Wants too many kdelibs. [17:35] techrights-news What a nerve #EPO has publishing this nonsense while violating the #EPC every day] https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20211006.html http://techrights.org/2021/10/06/six-nations/ #europe #corruption [17:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - EPC now at your fingertips, on all devices [17:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] [Teaser] The Seven Nations and the Six Nations | Techrights [17:35] DaemonFC Webkit is a nicer engine than Blink, other than this Gstreamer shit with the video playback. [17:36] DaemonFC It works okay if you use the packages from Debian Stable though. [17:36] DaemonFC Just don't grab the Webkit backport. [17:36] techrights-news The #EPO is Still Violating the #EPC Every Day http://techrights.org/2019/08/10/violating-the-epc/ [17:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO is Still Violating the EPC Every Day | Techrights [17:40] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: if you're into blink, try falkon [17:40] schestowitz-TR just apt-get install falkon [17:40] schestowitz-TR it's not heavy [17:40] schestowitz-TR you can make the GUI look shiny and minimalistic [17:40] schestowitz-TR like I do in the videos [17:40] DaemonFC 400 MB of KDE crap dumped on my laptop. [17:41] schestowitz-TR hide window titles and other cruft [17:41] schestowitz-TR make the brushed metal look the default [17:41] schestowitz-TR integrates very nicely and works with almost everything you throw at it [17:41] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: you said you had already installed kde-desktop anyway [17:42] techrights-news To be published tonight at midnight: part 4 of the ongoing series and then a 40+ minute video about the part and about #europe #corruption ... #epo #patents #epc [17:45] DaemonFC I made a live usb out of it and checked it out a little on the old laptop. [17:45] DaemonFC Debian KDE was only using 900 MB of RAM. [17:45] DaemonFC GNOME uses about 1.6 GB on startup. [17:46] schestowitz-TR getting worse [17:46] schestowitz-TR btw, I use gnome3 on a 2gb ram arm lapto [17:46] schestowitz-TR runs ok [17:46] DaemonFC No, that's actually an improvement. [17:46] DaemonFC It _was_ worse yet. [17:46] schestowitz-TR I think it demands RAM based on the total avasilable [17:46] schestowitz-TR so if you throw it at tight ram machine it will allocate less in the buffer [17:47] schestowitz-TR which makes sense I suppose [17:47] DaemonFC Well, GNOME's monitor gives you actual RAM used and then it says how much is in the disk cache. [17:47] schestowitz-TR a trade-off given that allocating more ram won't take up more power [17:47] DaemonFC I think KDE counts it the same way, but possibly not in the same units. [17:47] schestowitz-TR kde breaks it into two [17:47] schestowitz-TR press ctrl+esc [17:47] schestowitz-TR ksysguard (not renamed) shows two columns [17:48] schestowitz-TR one if the "real" usage [17:48] schestowitz-TR *is [17:48] schestowitz-TR shared libraries mean that if you open a lot of the same it doesn't add as much weight [17:48] schestowitz-TR like many dolphin, many tabs, many terminals [17:48] schestowitz-TR I have 9 dual-haded virtual desktops [17:49] schestowitz-TR and it's still snappy with many things on each [17:49] schestowitz-TR gnome is not a lot lighter than kde, not anymore [17:49] schestowitz-TR xfce is [17:49] schestowitz-TR xfce at least assumes its users use old and modest PCs [17:49] schestowitz-TR and it shows [17:50] techrights-news #TUXEDO InfinityBook Pro 14 Linux Laptop Updated with NVIDIA RTX 3050 Ti Graphics http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156490 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TUXEDO InfinityBook Pro 14 Linux Laptop Updated with NVIDIA RTX 3050 Ti Graphics | Tux Machines [17:51] MinceR (audio) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/779512.mp4 [17:52] techrights-news #epo and shallow or #fakepatents : "After the EPO opposition division initially upheld the patent in limited form, the Boards of Appeal overturned the ruling in 2016." Waste of money all that process. #patent quality in EPO is gutter level. https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/julius-glatz-and-rohnke-prevail-in-years-long-battle-over-cigarette-papers/ [17:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Julius Glatz and Rohnke prevail in years-long battle over cigarette papers - JUVE Patent [17:53] techrights-news Tonight at around midnight we shall publish Part 4 of the ongoing series (index below); imagine writing a whole book a very expensive book about legislation and rules that are very routinely violated http://techrights.org/2021/10/06/six-nations/ #europe #corruption #epo #patents #epc | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/06/six-nations/ [17:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] [Teaser] The Seven Nations and the Six Nations | Techrights [17:55] techrights-news It's complete lunacy giving #patent #monopolies to bots; there should no room for debate on this unless we also open up to farcical scenarios like #patents for people's #cats and #dogs http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/10/does-court-of-appeals-21-split-in.html [17:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Does the Court of Appeal's 2:1 split in Thaler underline the need for legislative review? - The IPKat [17:57] techrights-news Anastasiia Kyrylenko at #ipkat gives platform again to #patent extremists like #4IPCouncil http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/10/wednesday-whimsies.html see http://techrights.org/2018/06/14/the-patent-maximalism-council/ [17:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Wednesday Whimsies - The IPKat [17:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The 4iP Council is a Megaphone of Team UPC and Team Battistelli at the EPO | Techrights ● Oct 06 [18:00] techrights-news This is what #Ericsson has become because it can barely sell anything http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/10/ericsson-seeks-5-per-iphone-for-its-5g.html see http://techrights.org/2018/01/14/ericsson-avanci-and-unwired-planet/ and http://techrights.org/2017/12/23/crushing-companies-that-make-phones-with-linux/ [18:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Ericsson seeks $5 per iPhone for its 5G standard-essential patents, asks federal court to bless that rate, and will probably prevail over Apple unless Samsung pays much less at the upper end [18:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | If Ericsson and Its Patent Trolls (Like Avanci and Unwired Planet) Cannot Make It, the Patent Microcosm Will Perish | Techrights [18:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Ericsson and Microsoft-Led Nokia Crush Companies That Make Phones With Linux, BlackBerry Becomes Litigation Firm | Techrights [18:00] DaemonFC I think people forget how bad X11 has historically been, especially paired with proprietary drivers, which is basically all there was at one point. [18:01] DaemonFC It was so bad that you had to have Ctrl-Alt-Backspace as a combo to restart the server and lose everything WHEN your graphics driver hung it. [18:02] DaemonFC I didn't really care that ATI had proprietary drivers because Nvidia did too, and I did not know how much worse FGLRX was until I loaded it. [18:02] techrights-news "Differentiation between questions of fact and questions of law and its relevance" -- well, in the #epo (which covers #Switzerland ) neither matters because it is a corrupt dictatorship http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/10/05/question-of-fact-or-law-court-sheds-light-on-longstanding-issue-in-swiss-patent-law-or-doesnt-it/ http://techrights.org/wiki/EPO [18:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Question of fact or law court sheds light on longstanding issue in Swiss patent law, or doesn't it? - Kluwer Patent Blog [18:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights [18:03] DaemonFC There's a lot of bending over backwards at Fedora to make Nvidia happy these days. [18:03] DaemonFC Whatever Nvidia wants, it gets. [18:03] DaemonFC And you're not allowed to say anything about it. [18:04] DaemonFC Crappy interfaces built just for them? Sure! [18:04] DaemonFC GLX Diversions as a "feature" just for them? Why not. [18:04] DaemonFC Hold up component versions so Nvidia's blob works on release day? You bet! [18:05] DaemonFC mjg59_ takes some occasional time to concern troll Free Software. [18:05] techrights-news #vaccination is good, very good, but don't let #corporateMedia funded by #covid19 #patent pools treat every single COVID-branded vaccine like a religion (and critics like blasphemous nuts). Not all vaccines are equal; efficacy varies and some have been tested insufficiently. [18:05] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/10/06/fighting-from-the-french-riviera [18:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [18:06] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/10/05/a-secret-special-forces-archive [18:06] DaemonFC Then he goes back to implementing Microsoft specifications that are nuts and which take our freedoms away, on his Microsoft GitHub account. [18:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [18:06] DaemonFC We don't actually know for sure whether "kernel lockdown" was demanded by Microsoft in exchange for agreeing to sign "shim". [18:06] DaemonFC But it wouldn't surprise me. [18:08] techrights-news ...And FWIW, any time the #corporateMedia tells us to also vaccinate young kids (DESPITE THE FACT EXISTING COVID-19 VACCINES ARE NOT PREVENTING THE SPREAD) I recall https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide_scandal [18:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Thalidomide scandal - Wikipedia [18:08] DaemonFC If that part isn't a demand, then Debian should certainly back it out. [18:08] DaemonFC And if it is, they should say something. [18:09] MinceR debian is controlled by IBM [18:09] MinceR the only thing they'll say is "yes, master" [18:09] schestowitz-TR not directly [18:09] schestowitz-TR MinceR: they can't say that [18:09] schestowitz-TR Debian has "anti-harassment team" [18:09] schestowitz-TR they develop policies [18:09] schestowitz-TR and choose "targets" [18:10] MinceR they can [18:10] schestowitz-TR they don't develop software [18:10] MinceR they're on IBM's side [18:10] MinceR you and i are not allowed to say that, but they are [18:10] schestowitz-TR not just IBM's [18:10] schestowitz-TR of course they can [18:10] schestowitz-TR all the time [18:10] schestowitz-TR it's "professional" when they say it [18:10] schestowitz-TR it's "toxic" when we say the same [18:13] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [18:14] techrights-news Better #covid19 #vaccines need to be developed and properly tested, but when it's developed in the frameworks of #capitalism with #patent #monopolies there's more incentive to keep pushing existing stuff and hardly improving it (until it stops selling; or price/unit falls) [18:15] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/emotion-3 [18:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Emotion [18:16] MinceR and outside the framework of capitalism, there's no incentive to develop or test them at all [18:16] MinceR case in point: red china and their crap vaccines [18:17] AdmFubar https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/european-parliament-calls-for-ban-on-ai-powered-mass-surveillance/ [18:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | European Parliament calls for ban on AI-powered mass surveillance [18:17] techrights-news actively [18:18] techrights-news #polio and #measles #vaccines are exceptionally popular because they actively prevent, they're a one-time thing (not "subscription", e.g. "boosters" every x months), they're affordable and they help stop the spread (actual eradication, not "lower hospitalisation" rates). They rarely lay you in bed for 1-5 days after each shot. [18:19] techrights-news If we're serious about ending the #covid19 crisis the very first step should be eradication... of the #patent #monopolies on these things. Not waiver on these #patents but complete elimination; monopolies are unethical at times of health crises. But of course the 'religious' brand of capitalism measures success in financial terms, not lives saved etc. [18:20] schestowitz-TR MinceR: china has its own FDA [18:20] schestowitz-TR you cannot just dump anything at people [18:20] MinceR controlled by the CPC [18:20] schestowitz-TR yeah [18:20] schestowitz-TR like CDC controlled by the US corporate government [18:20] MinceR and probably their standards aren't much stronger than those of hungary [18:20] schestowitz-TR and same for US FDA [18:20] MinceR where the sinopharm crap was approved because peter szijjarto signed it [18:20] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:20] schestowitz-TR MinceR: yes, there you go... [18:21] MinceR he majored in international relations and sports management [18:21] schestowitz-TR cuba develops its own too [18:21] MinceR both of those very relevant to confirming whether an alleged vaccine is effective and safer or not [18:21] schestowitz-TR and countries that signed with china aren't worse off than the west [18:21] MinceR s/fer/fe/ [18:21] schestowitz-TR per capita [18:22] MinceR also, if red china's equivalent of the FDA suppresses information about a vaccine being approved despite being crap, you have practically 0 chance of finding out [18:22] MinceR because red china is a censorship-happy shithole [18:22] MinceR an oppressive, closed society [18:22] schestowitz-TR also true [18:23] schestowitz-TR but indonesia is also [18:23] MinceR it would be far more difficult to suppress such information in europe [18:23] schestowitz-TR so maybe we compare apples to oranges [18:23] MinceR which is why i cared about what the EMA and FDA approved and not about what winnie the pooh, the khuilo and their sycophants approved [18:25] techrights-news Today's #patent system is all about the big corporations; even patent offices are unable to deny that https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1118008/decline-of-the-garden-shed-inventor #patents [18:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Decline Of The Garden Shed Inventor? - Intellectual Property - UK [18:28] techrights-news Repeating paid-for #EPO #propaganda to perpetuate the lie that more #patents ( #monopolies ) would somehow, magically, tackle #climate issues https://www.miragenews.com/patent-on-sustainable-energy-645416/ #greenwashing [18:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.miragenews.com | Patent on sustainable energy | Mirage News [18:28] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [18:31] techrights-news Seems like #ManagingIP , the #propagandamill of #TeamUPC , has found itself a newly-hired propagandist for #UPC , based on lies and selective voices (of the sponsors) https://www.managingip.com/article/b1tw9kh48kv31h/patent-lawyers-want-harmonisation-for-incremental-inventions [18:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Patent lawyers want harmonisation for incremental inventions | Managing Intellectual Property [18:33] schestowitz-TR MinceR: seems like choices between evils [18:34] schestowitz-TR like astrazenecaCA,some US firms that falsely advertised- Putin-V, and some cheap stuff from ground zero of COVID-19 [18:34] schestowitz-TR for me, as we have no foreign vectors (kids, who cannot work from home like us), the best vaccine -- for now -- is staying well in [18:35] MinceR yeah, a choice between imperfect but working vaccines and unknown crap that could do anything and you won't know in advance [18:35] schestowitz-TR that applies to all [18:35] schestowitz-TR not just China's [18:35] schestowitz-TR our neighbours got severe case of shigles [18:35] schestowitz-TR possibly because it weakened her immune system [18:36] schestowitz-TR the clinical trials are done in vitro [18:36] schestowitz-TR and in real time, large scale [18:36] schestowitz-TR over time we'll know what each vaccine does to who... [18:36] schestowitz-TR the AZ one seems crap [18:36] schestowitz-TR look at the UK numbers [18:36] schestowitz-TR and my 2 best friends regret taking it [18:36] schestowitz-TR did them more harm than good [18:36] schestowitz-TR according to them [18:37] schestowitz-TR turns out it inflames bad joints [18:37] schestowitz-TR and the specialists in that say they see a sharp uptick since people got those shots [18:37] schestowitz-TR not that BillBC mention that.... that would be "anti-vaxxer" [18:37] schestowitz-TR it's our "patriotic duty" [18:37] MinceR yeah, it also applies to russia's crap [18:37] schestowitz-TR yeah [18:38] schestowitz-TR for sure [18:38] schestowitz-TR as I said, tackle this and climate change together [18:38] schestowitz-TR less travel, no "back to normal" attempts [18:38] schestowitz-TR the "normal" was bad anyway [18:38] MinceR which was approvied in hungary amid the dictator urging the relevant authority to make a quick decision, not an informed one [18:38] MinceR s/vie/ve/ [18:38] schestowitz-TR all the capital amassed by very few, who profit from things like cinemas [18:38] schestowitz-TR copyright cartels and food giants [18:38] MinceR and next time they circumvented them entirely [18:39] schestowitz-TR Orban is an idiot [18:39] schestowitz-TR from what I've read, he thought like Belarus [18:39] schestowitz-TR I gather he thought covid-19 was just some "soros" or "gates" something [18:40] schestowitz-TR in the uk we see deaths coming close to nothing when we have lock-downs [18:40] schestowitz-TR deaths linked to this virus anyway [18:40] MinceR he thought it was an annoyance because it got in the way of the usual baiting against immigrants [18:40] schestowitz-TR and they then open up entire STADIUMS [18:40] schestowitz-TR 40k new cases today alone [18:40] schestowitz-TR 40x31=over 1200000 per month [18:41] schestowitz-TR yay! freedom day! [18:41] schestowitz-TR "we're comiing for YOU next" [18:41] schestowitz-TR the disease of the 1% will soon be the disease of the 20% [18:42] schestowitz-TR and that's basically the borisnaro plan [18:44] techrights-news The term "harmonisation" sounds good, but that typically means imposing #patent maximalists' policies on nations that have 'unsuitable' laws https://kimurapartners.com/history-of-patent-harmonization-3-patent-cooperation-treaty-pct-2-pct-international-survey-system-2/ [18:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kimurapartners.com | Using the International Patent Search system [18:45] techrights-news IPR Denied? Alternate Path Still Open After Fed. Circ. Case https://www.law360.com/appellate/articles/1427439/ipr-denied-alternate-path-still-open-after-fed-circ-case #ptab #patents [18:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IPR Denied? Alternate Path Still Open After Fed. Circ. Case - Law360 [18:48] MinceR (even though no immigrant wants to live in hungary, because they all know it's a shithole) [18:48] schestowitz-TR gypsy king orban ● Oct 06 [19:09] *inky (~inky@141.136.77.253) has joined #techrights [19:10] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [19:17] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.88 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 81.30 swarm size (avg): 258.37 [19:33] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [19:35] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@fbbhgvehvhkce.irc) has joined #techrights [19:46] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights ● Oct 06 [20:17] *asusbox2 has quit (connection closed) [20:18] *asusbox2 (~rianne@ctqz25uirqr88.irc) has joined #techrights [20:32] *chunky has quit (Quit: bye) [20:36] *chunky (~chunky@kcmuc6rr58tti.irc) has joined #techrights [20:37] DaemonFC That guy at Dunkin' Donuts is nice. He always tosses extras in there. [20:38] DaemonFC like astrazenecaCA,some US firms that falsely advertised- Putin-V, and some cheap stuff from ground zero of COVID-19 [20:38] DaemonFC The Communist Party's vaccine. [20:38] DaemonFC So great, they had to shut down a clinic in Hong Kong who told people it was dodgy and to get the Pfizer. [20:40] DaemonFC Making a live attenuated virus vaccine not the cutting edge of medicine. [20:40] DaemonFC It is a great way to crank out billions of doses at relatively little cost, which is what they have to focus on. [20:41] DaemonFC Mainly because they let their population get out of control. [20:41] DaemonFC Many people in China obviously are going to have respiratory system damage already because of all of the pollution. [20:42] DaemonFC The US Embassy in Beijing takes air samples and posts them. [20:42] DaemonFC They're obviously a fair bit worse than what the Communists will admit to. [20:43] DaemonFC They chose to make their country a sacrifice zone with all of the pollution in exchange for fake economic growth. [20:43] DaemonFC Literally, all money is, is me handing you paper (or us agreeing that some numbers changed hands in a bank balance) and then you give me something real in return. [20:44] DaemonFC Most of the world has had enormous trade deficits with China for decades now, not just the US. [20:44] DaemonFC And the reason it works is because they don't call the debt. If they did it would either ruin us or we'd just refuse to pay. [20:44] DaemonFC So we all agree to keep pretending that this is sustainable, and they have growth and we have money. [20:45] DaemonFC The problem with Keynesian Economics is that it totally ignores the relationship between the money and the value that backs it. [20:46] DaemonFC They go "Oh hell, why can't we just print up a trillion dollar coin and put it at the Fed and keep paying our bills?". [20:46] DaemonFC Well, relatively speaking, a trillion would be noticeable, but only barely. If you kept doing it, however, there would eventually be a tidal wave of inflation and nobody would want to loan us money again as soon as the Treasury could borrow. [20:47] DaemonFC Because they'd have to worry about inflation eating their assets faster than any amount of interest accrued. [20:48] techrights-news #Ubuntu 21.10 is upon us, and its small changes for major improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156491 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 is upon us, and it's small changes for major improvements | Tux Machines [20:49] DaemonFC The Republicans aren't really concerned with massive inflation. They're worried (1) that the programs will be popular and impossible to kill later, (2) the infrastructure bill is something Biden can shove in Trump's face if he comes back as something Biden delivered that Trump failed with, and that to keep the inflation from getting out of control, the taxes will effectively be impossible to repeal. [20:49] techrights-news #RedHat Enterprise Linux 8.5 Beta is now available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156492 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.5 Beta is now available | Tux Machines [20:50] techrights-news #Radeon Software 21.30 PRO vs. #Mesa 21.3-devel + Linux 5.15 Gaming Performance http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156493 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Radeon Software 21.30 PRO vs. Mesa 21.3-devel + Linux 5.15 Gaming Performance | Tux Machines [20:50] DaemonFC Mmmmm....Red Hat.....beta.... [20:50] DaemonFC MinceR gets ready to fire it up. [20:50] MinceR lol no [20:50] techrights-news #Canonical launches #Ubuntu Frame, the foundation for embedded displays http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156494 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical launches Ubuntu Frame, the foundation for embedded displays | Tux Machines [20:51] AdmFubar fire it up... or burn it down? [20:51] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156495 #Linux #TuxMachines [20:51] MinceR burn it down [20:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:51] MinceR they burned the FSF and Linux down, now it's their turn to burn [20:51] techrights-news Stable Kernels: 5.10.71, 5.4.151, 4.19.209, 4.14.249, 4.9.285, and 4.4.286 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156496 #GPLM #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines [20:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.10.71, 5.4.151, 4.19.209, 4.14.249, 4.9.285, and 4.4.286 | Tux Machines [20:52] techrights-news This service is maintained by the Federated Networks Association [20:52] techrights-news Jetson-based SDR system features updated AirStack software http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156497 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Jetson-based SDR system features updated AirStack software | Tux Machines [20:54] MinceR (cat) https://files.catbox.moe/eda0kh.jpeg [20:54] techrights-news Canonical Announces Ubuntu Frame As A Full-Screen Shell Built On Mir http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156494#comment-31266 [20:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical launches Ubuntu Frame, the foundation for embedded displays | Tux Machines [20:55] techrights-news TUXEDO announce the new InfinityBook Pro 14 with RTX 3050 Ti and Tiger Lake H35 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156490#comment-31265 [20:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TUXEDO InfinityBook Pro 14 Linux Laptop Updated with NVIDIA RTX 3050 Ti Graphics | Tux Machines [20:57] DaemonFC Many people seem to get away with running Debian Testing and Sid as their desktop. [20:57] DaemonFC I would never use Sid as my main system. [20:58] DaemonFC But Testing might be okay if you just end up with a system that's too new for Stable and you don't want to mess around tryng to find some way around that. But the first thing I'd do is reset the apt sources to point at the release codename of the next version. [20:58] DaemonFC Eventually, it would get released and "become Stable". If you leave them set to Testing, it would just roll over into the next development cycle. ● Oct 06 [21:02] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/sourcecode/facebook-cracks-showing [21:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook's cracks are showing - Protocol The people, power and politics of tech [21:02] techrights-news Build and manage your own special resort in Hotel Magnate now in Early Access | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/build-and-manage-your-own-special-resort-in-hotel-magnate-now-in-early-access #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [21:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Build and manage your own special resort in Hotel Magnate now in Early Access | GamingOnLinux [21:05] techrights-news When #games you grew up with sort of 'become' #freesw https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/heroes-of-might-and-magic-ii-game-engine-recreation-fheroes2-v098-out-now but #deletegithub .. it's a proprietarySoftware trap http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [21:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Heroes of Might and Magic II game engine recreation fheroes2 v0.9.8 out now | GamingOnLinux [21:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [21:06] techrights-news Another #handheld #gaming console running #linux (now de facto standard) https://liliputing.com/2021/10/ayn-odin-handheld-game-console-with-snapdragon-845-and-android-coming-soon-for-199-and-up-crowdfunding.html [21:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AYN Odin is a handheld Android game console with Snapdragon 845 for $175 and up (crowdfunding) - Liliputing [21:06] AdmFubar why does this feel like the 1920's again? https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/protocol-fintech/buy-now-pay-later?rebelltitem=3#rebelltitem3 [21:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3 Questions With - Protocol The people, power and politics of tech [21:07] techrights-news If #Twitch was #freesw it would be rather meaningless and a non-event https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/twitch-has-suffered-a-huge-leak-of-source-code-with-a-possible-steam-competitor [21:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Twitch has suffered a huge leak of source code with a possible Steam competitor (updated) | GamingOnLinux [21:07] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:08] schestowitz-TR indeed [21:08] schestowitz-TR @ AdmFubar [21:09] schestowitz-TR I hope the Facebook et al military-connected cartel shuts down soon [21:09] schestowitz-TR Microsoft and IBM on their way down alreayd [21:09] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:10] techrights-news "There's a capsule that renders ASCII art using streaming with intentional slowdown to emulate modem-like download speed." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007275.html [21:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | chat over gemini (or, let's play with streaming text) [21:10] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [21:12] techrights-news Guide for Upgrading to #MongoDB 5.0 and Rocket.Chat 4.0 on Docker https://linuxhandbook.com/mongodb-upgrade-rocket-chat/ #LinuxHandbook #GNU #Linux [21:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhandbook.com | Guide for Upgrading to MongoDB 5.0 and Rocket.Chat 4.0 on Docker [21:12] techrights-news ET: Legacy 2.78 Released With Better #OpenAL Sound, Android Support Materializing - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ET-Legacy-2.78 #Phoronix [21:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ET: Legacy 2.78 Released With Better OpenAL Sound, Android Support Materializing - Phoronix [21:12] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: ^^ [21:13] techrights-news ma dog @ ma homework https://www.maketecheasier.com/facebook-excuse-for-outage/ #zuckerberg #zuckerface [21:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Facebook Offers Excuse for Long Widespread Outage - Make Tech Easier [21:17] techrights-news Richard Stallman: " #AbuZubaydah, prisoner in Guantanamo, is suing to demand testimony of agents that tortured him, to prove that the US had a #torture site in #Poland ." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#6_October_2021_%28Torture_sites%29 [21:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [21:18] techrights-news San Jose apologizes for racist past against Chinese community https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/01/us/san-jose-racism-apology-chinese/index.html #microsoft this year: http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/ [21:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | San Jose apologizes for racist past against Chinese community - CNN [21:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Weaponises (and Further Spreads) Racism to Distract From Its Own Incompetence (and Five Eyes Collusion for Back Door Access) | Techrights [21:32] techrights-news #Games: Hotel Magnate, Heroes of Might and Magic Clone and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156498 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Hotel Magnate, Heroes of Might and Magic Clone and More | Tux Machines [21:35] techrights-news Talks in France: #RichardStallman Talking in French in Two Places in France This Month http://techrights.org/2021/10/06/richard-stallman-france-talks/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/06/richard-stallman-france-talks/ [21:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Talks in France: Richard Stallman Talking in French in Two Places in France This Month | Techrights [21:37] techrights-news At midnight tonight #techrights will release a long video and article about #epo #corruption [21:39] techrights-news #SayakBoral shilling #microsoft ATTACK on #gnu #linux with typical #wsl2 SPAM. Don't listen to these Microsoft shills, operatives and provocateurs. Worse: Microsoft pays some of them to do this! [21:41] techrights-news Person who posts #gnu #linux howto = likely GNU/Linux supporter. Person who posts #wsl or #wsl2 spam = person who helps #microsoft ATTACK GNU/Linux and is not a supporter but a paid shill, attacker, or sometimes just a "useless idiot" to Microsoft. [21:42] techrights-news " #Microsoft shills are now that the company is on its way out but spamming the Web to try to distract, even as they drag his name through the mud hawking broken Microsoft products like #WSL2 ." http://techrights.org/2021/10/05/microsoft-puff-pieces/ [21:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Edge on Linux Puff Pieces and WSL2 Fake Linux | Techrights [21:45] techrights-news Dr. Stallman's 'European tour' continues and the next stop is #France http://techrights.org/2021/10/06/richard-stallman-france-talks/ #rms #fr #gnu #freesw [21:51] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/pp [21:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - PP [21:52] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@zk4x6ycwnz66n.irc) has joined #techrights [21:52] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [21:57] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156499 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [21:57] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [21:58] techrights-news #RedHat Enterprise Linux 8.5 Enters Beta Testing with Live Kernel Patching on the Web Console http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156500 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.5 Enters Beta Testing with Live Kernel Patching on the Web Console | Tux Machines [21:59] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156501 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [21:59] techrights-news Links 6/10/2021: #Ubuntu Frame and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.5 Beta http://techrights.org/2021/10/06/ubuntu-frame/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/06/ubuntu-frame/ [21:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 6/10/2021: Ubuntu Frame and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.5 Beta | Techrights ● Oct 06 [22:03] techrights-news Buzzwords, Buzzwords, Buzzwords, #redhat under #ibm ... https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/davie-street-enterprises-leaps-industry-40-edge-technologies [22:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Davie Street Enterprises leaps into Industry 4.0 with edge technologies [22:04] techrights-news #ibm #redhat trying to turn geeks into disposable buzzwords that change like clothing fashion https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/3-focus-areas-devsecops-success [22:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | 3 focus areas for DevSecOps success [22:06] techrights-news Can you build ARCH from source? Lets see! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156502 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Can you build ARCH from source? Lets see! | Tux Machines [22:06] schestowitz-TR activelow: of interest ^^^ [22:06] *zoobab_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [22:07] *zoobab (zoobab@vic.ffii.org) has joined #techrights [22:08] activelow schestowitz-TR: i prefer to say "completely from source", for specific reasons [22:08] techrights-news " #Arduino has launched another Arduino Pro board! Well, sort of. Lets not get too excited. The Portenta H7 Lite Connected is based on last months Portenta H7 Lite that itself was a cost-optimized version of Portenta H7 board" https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/06/portenta-h7-lite-connected-brings-back-wifi-bluetooth/ [22:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Portenta H7 Lite Connected brings back WiFi & Bluetooth - CNX Software [22:08] schestowitz-TR activelow: merely semantics [22:10] techrights-news The masters at #ibm need slaves to help test #fedora as unpaid volunteers https://fedoramagazine.org/contribute-at-fedora-linux-35-upgrade-virt-cloud-iot-and-coreos-test-days/ [22:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Contribute at Fedora Linux 35 Upgrade, Virt, Cloud, IoT, and CoreOS test days - Fedora Magazine [22:11] *activelow has quit (connection closed) [22:11] techrights-news 2020: #IBM Fought for Master Race and Now Its Banning the Word 'Master' http://techrights.org/2020/09/29/banning-the-word-master/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/09/29/banning-the-word-master/ [22:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Fought for Master Race and Now Its Banning the Word Master | Techrights [22:11] *activelow (~activelow@txkdaiuveepza.irc) has joined #techrights [22:12] *m___ (~Adium@f58rg5wudx2cn.irc) has joined #techrights [22:12] techrights-news "I wanted to make a historical list of phones that Ive owned over the years and the reasons why I purchased them in particular. I generally buy phones on the S year (tick-tock cycle) when the small improvements have been made to it over time versus the major redesign years!" https://fossjon.wordpress.com/2021/10/05/a-history-of-cell-phone-ownership/ [22:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossjon.wordpress.com | A history of cell phone ownership Jon's FOSS Blog [22:12] activelow schestowitz-TR: since when i verified BSD (openbsd, the others seem ok too) and gentoo i never looked back to any of the binary distros [22:13] MinceR OpenBSD is capable of working in a binary-based way [22:13] MinceR with syspatch, pkg_add et al. [22:13] techrights-news #ReproducibleBuilds in September 2021 " reproducible-builds.org https://reproducible-builds.org/reports/2021-09/ see http://techrights.org/2021/04/29/with-sponsors-like-these/ [22:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reproducible Builds in September 2021 reproducible-builds.org [22:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With Sponsors Like These | Techrights [22:14] activelow yes, and documentation and source based workflow are very good nonetheless [22:14] activelow whenever i feel comfortable with gnu/linux often this is when traditional bsd/*nix characteristics were retained with it [22:15] activelow the reason i stay with gentoo is their portage tree supporting use-flags, crossdev, catalyst releng tool [22:16] activelow binary distributions are one explanation why bloatware and proprietary attacks against gnu/linux succeeded [22:16] techrights-news How to help #apple sell overpriced crap while working on 'Linux' https://asahilinux.org/2021/10/progress-report-september-2021/ #AsahiLinux [22:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-asahilinux.org | Progress Report: September 2021 - Asahi Linux [22:17] activelow if at lest developers followed a source-based workflow then apt/pacman or flatpak and similar never had succeeded [22:17] activelow and packages such libreoffice or chromium, and g++/c++ itself had never spread as excessively [22:20] techrights-news Pseudo-security distraction from the principal culprits, such as #ProprietarySoftware #backdoors and collusion with secret agencies https://www.fosslife.org/broken-access-control-tops-owasps-list-web-security-risks [22:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | Broken Access Control Tops OWASPs List of Web Security Risks [22:21] techrights-news #Slimbook Battery 4 Released with Improved Power-Saving Features http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156503 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slimbook Battery 4 Released with Improved Power-Saving Features | Tux Machines [22:22] techrights-news #linuxfoundation : we front for perpetrators of #backdoors and call that #security https://linuxfoundation.org/networking-edge/open-source-5g-ecosystem-solutions-on-display-at-one-summit-as-us-government-hosts-security-mini-summit/ [22:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | Open Source 5G Ecosystem Solutions on Display at ONE Summit, as US Government Hosts Security Mini Summit - Linux Foundation [22:22] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/users-2 [22:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Users [22:24] techrights-news #GIMP s official mirrors and mirror policy http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156504 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freesw [22:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GIMPs official mirrors and mirror policy | Tux Machines [22:25] techrights-news #OMNi is a modular, omnidirectional robot for museum duties | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/10/05/omni-is-a-modular-omnidirectional-robot-for-museum-duties/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking [22:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | OMNi is a modular, omnidirectional robot for museum duties | Arduino Blog [22:26] techrights-news "An #Arduino Uno board controls Duco through a motor shield. It has two stepper motors, a #servo motor, a linear actuator, and a #UV light." https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/10/06/duco-is-a-wall-climbing-robot-that-paints-circuit-murals/ [22:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Duco is a wall-climbing robot that paints circuit murals | Arduino Blog [22:27] techrights-news #LinusTechTips #GNU #Linux Challenge: Our Reaction | Jupiter Extras 76 https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/146322/linus-tech-tips-linux-challenge-our-reaction-jupiter-extras-76/ [22:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Linus Tech Tips Linux Challenge: Our Reaction | Jupiter Extras 76 | Jupiter Broadcasting [22:29] techrights-news Enterprise Linux #Security Episode 05 - The "Attacker" Mindset - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5GYUYMtBR1w #video #invidious #gnu #linux [22:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Enterprise Linux Security Episode 05 - The "Attacker" Mindset - Invidious [22:29] techrights-news #Archcraft 2021.09.25 Quick overview #Shorts - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=i9eIZ1gtMKQ #video #invidious #gnu #linux [22:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Archcraft 2021.09.25 Quick overview #Shorts - Invidious [22:30] techrights-news "Introducing the new #LinuxForEveryone show! Jason's making room for a couple new co-hosts. In this first trailer, meet Jason's friend and musical partner-in-crime Jerry Morrison." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=My1h0-T5u1s #gnu #linux [22:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | The NEW Linux For Everyone Show: Meet Jerry Morrison - Invidious [22:30] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [22:31] techrights-news Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 3.4 beta 6 https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-3-4-beta-6 #godotengine [22:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-godotengine.org | Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 3.4 beta 6 [22:32] techrights-news Check Java processes on Linux with the jps command | https://opensource.com/article/21/10/check-java-jps #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux [22:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Check Java processes on Linux with the jps command | Opensource.com [22:33] techrights-news Ambitious claims as they assume 100% assurance all patches would not cause any conflicts or require some form of human intervention, testing, debugging etc. https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20211006005070/en/TuxCare-Services-Launches-Database-Live-Patching-for-MySQL-MariaDB-and-PostgreSQL---No-Maintenance-Window-Required [22:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com | TuxCare Services Launches Database Live Patching for MySQL, MariaDB and PostgreSQL - No Maintenance Window Required | Business Wire [22:34] gustaf I managed to wedge my OpenBSD machine trying to upgrade via source [22:34] gustaf but this was years ago [22:35] techrights-news Poor and false statements all around, e.g. "Windows and Linux have been around roughly the same amount of time (both were begun around 1990)" https://www.bbntimes.com/technology/is-linux-faster-than-windows [22:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbntimes.com | Is Linux Faster Than Windows? [22:35] activelow *BSD are different, because their base-system is kept in a separate build system tree [22:38] techrights-news "After several alpha, beta and rc tests, the #Python #programming language finally released version 3.10 today!" http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156453#comment-31267 [22:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Python 3.10.0 | Tux Machines [22:38] *techrights_guest|76 (~51bbbf9b@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [22:39] techrights-news Your 'private' text messages are being passed around: "part of the global telecommunications infrastructure used by AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon and several others around the world such as Vodafone and China Mobile" https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3xpm8/company-that-routes-billions-of-text-messages-quietly-says-it-was-hacked [22:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vice.com | Company That Routes Billions of Text Messages Quietly Says It Was Hacked [22:40] techrights-news "Global outage is the companys latest headache, as whistleblower accuses it of putting profits above safety and privacy." https://www.aljazeera.com/program/inside-story/2021/10/5/has-facebook-become-too-powerful #facebook #espionage #socialcontrolmedia #surveillance [22:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.aljazeera.com | Has Facebook become too powerful? | Social Media News | Al Jazeera [22:41] techrights-news #Iraq #elections must not be tainted by internet shutdowns - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/iraq-elections-internet-shutdowns/ #accessnow [22:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Iraqs elections must not be tainted by internet shutdowns - Access Now [22:42] activelow i'll keep gentoo tooling, although i am concerned about gcc and toolchain bootstrapping [22:42] techrights-news Linux 5.16 Preps More Display Code For Alder Lake P & DG2/Alchemist - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.16-ADL-P-DG2-Display #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/06/#latest [22:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.16 Preps More Display Code For Alder Lake P & DG2/Alchemist - Phoronix [22:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [22:44] techrights-news "Its with great pleasure that I introduce Abby Parise, who is the latest addition to the Customer Experience team. Abby is taking the role of Support Content Manager, so youll definitely see more of her in SUMO" https://blog.mozilla.org/sumo/2021/10/06/introducing-abby-parise/ [22:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Introducing Abby Parise The Mozilla Support Blog [22:45] techrights-news #Privacy posing by #mozilla again (no, #firefox does not protect your privacy) https://hacks.mozilla.org/2021/10/control-your-data-for-good-with-rally/ Mozilla relies on relativism http://techrights.org/2021/07/07/mozilla-data-stewardship-slant/ [22:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hacks.mozilla.org | Control your data for good with Rally - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blog [22:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Does Not Respect Your Privacy | Techrights [22:46] techrights-news "In the previous dyn async traits posts, I talked about how we can think about the #compiler as synthesizing an impl that performed the dynamic dispatch." http://smallcultfollowing.com/babysteps/blog/2021/10/06/dyn-async-traits-part-3/ [22:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-smallcultfollowing.com | Baby Steps [22:46] techrights-news Find and compare #Python libraries with #project2vec | #RedHat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/10/06/find-and-compare-python-libraries-project2vec [22:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Find and compare Python libraries with project2vec | Red Hat Developer [22:47] DaemonFC Hmm, a more efficient block allocator landed in the Ext4 driver. [22:47] DaemonFC It's opt-in starting in kernel 5.13. [22:47] XRevan86 > Guide for Upgrading to #MongoDB 5.0 and Rocket.Chat 4.0 on Docker [22:47] *XRevan86 throws proprietary MongoDB into the pits of hell. [22:48] techrights-news #ibm #ibm = #buzzwords machines (it wasn't like this years ago; nowhere near as bad) https://opensource.com/article/21/10/devsecops-maturity-model [22:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Following a DevSecOps maturity model | Opensource.com [22:48] DaemonFC "When "mb_optimize_scan" is turned on, as mentioned above, the groups may not [22:48] DaemonFC * get traversed linearly. That may result in subsequent allocations being not [22:48] DaemonFC * close to each other. And so, the underlying device may get filled up in a [22:48] DaemonFC * non-linear fashion. While that may not matter on non-rotational devices, for [22:49] DaemonFC * rotational devices that may result in higher seek times. "mb_linear_limit" [22:49] DaemonFC * tells mballoc how many groups mballoc should search linearly before [22:49] DaemonFC * performing consulting above data structures for more efficient lookups. For [22:49] DaemonFC * non rotational devices, this value defaults to 0 and for rotational devices [22:49] DaemonFC * this is set to MB_DEFAULT_LINEAR_LIMIT." [22:49] DaemonFC So turn it on if you have an SSD and turn it off if you're using a hard disk drive. [22:49] DaemonFC Linear traversal is slower, but could end up causing file system fragmentation, which will hurt hard disk performance. [22:49] techrights-news "I really watch with admiration anytime someone is pushing the boundaries of the protocol to its limits, I think is smart and useful, I don't feel upset or annoying, on the contrary I think it has the beneficial effect to understand better what we can achieve or what we can not with Gemini." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007276.html [22:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | chat over gemini (or, let's play with streaming text) [22:50] gustaf more like their base is developed alongside the kernel [22:51] techrights-news "In Qt 5.10, we added support for recursive filtering in QSortFilterProxyModel, which means keeping all parents of items matching the filter." But it needs to become #freesw again; #qt becoming #ProprietarySoftware is a VERY BIG dead and a huge setback. #covid19 NOT an excuse for this!! https://www.kdab.com/auto-accepting/ [22:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Auto-Accepting in QSortFilterProxyModel - KDAB on Qt [22:51] DaemonFC It seems that maybe Linux should autodetect if the file system is on SSD and enable this if so. [22:52] DaemonFC Since fragmentation doesn't matter much, it's a big win. [22:52] DaemonFC I'll have to remember to set that when I get a newer kernel. [22:54] techrights-news Can anyone vouch #Qwant actually gives a damn about users' #privacy and #confidentiality though? https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/qwant/ #riscv [22:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-peter.czanik.hu | Qwant -- a European search engine | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik [22:57] techrights-news "As I just posted about #MediaTek Filogic 830/630 WiFi 6/6E chip, I was informed that Amlogic may have its own WiFi chip as W1 module showed up in the SDKs source code." https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/06/amlogic-s905w4-tv-box-ships-with-amlogic-w1-wifi-5-module/ [22:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Amlogic S905W4 TV Box ships with Amlogic W1 WiFi 5 module - CNX Software [22:58] techrights-news #Security: Patches, Reproducible Builds, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156505 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Patches, Reproducible Builds, and More | Tux Machines [22:59] *techrights_guest|76 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) ● Oct 06 [23:02] techrights-news #RaspberryPi 4 SSD Case With Stats Display http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156506 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi 4 SSD Case With Stats Display | Tux Machines [23:03] techrights-news "I think its important to dispel the notion that the call to vaccinate is an infringement on acceptable liberal freedoms." https://theconversation.com/combating-covid-19-anti-vaxxers-lessons-from-political-philosophy-168947 it really depends on WHICH vaccine, which age, how many doses etc. It's not a BINARY thing. Not all vaccines are the same. [23:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theconversation.com | Combating COVID-19 anti-vaxxers: lessons from political philosophy [23:06] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [23:06] leah yep [23:06] leah Ariadne: i was right. just needed to update weechat. was on 2.8, now i'm on the latest version [23:06] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/laughs [23:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Laughs [23:07] leah Ariadne: schestowitz older irc clients no longer work with techrights irc, they complain about untrusted tls certificate [23:07] schestowitz-TR oh, does that have something to do with sept. 30th? [23:07] leah that might be problematic for you, depending on your priorities. i just thought you should know. i was having trouble reconnecting to techrights earlier, and ariadne looked into it. but the problem was my end [23:08] schestowitz-TR maybe that happened when we renewed cert last month? [23:09] schestowitz-TR maybe a cert of some newer compliance standard [23:09] schestowitz-TR which your client lacked support for? [23:09] schestowitz-TR This TLS treadmill is a driver of ewaste [23:09] schestowitz-TR lots of planned obsolescence, and we know who profits.... [23:10] techrights-news #Kernel : #RaspberryPi , Intel/x86, and Asahi Linux (M1) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156507 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Raspberry Pi, Intel/x86, and Asahi Linux (M1) | Tux Machines [23:10] MinceR what if they disable checking of certificate? [23:10] schestowitz-TR google et al won't allow it [23:11] schestowitz-TR it would make it easier to self-host [23:11] schestowitz-TR gotta keep it hard [23:11] schestowitz-TR move to"the clown' [23:11] MinceR i doubt google gets to tell weechat how to function [23:11] MinceR irssi certainly allows this [23:11] XRevan86 Um, why is that an "old IRC client" thing? Isn't that an OpenSSL thing? [23:11] schestowitz-TR let the professionals (NSA) handle it all [23:11] MinceR also, we allow connecting without TLS/SSL [23:12] XRevan86 It's just an expired certificate in the chain, it's the TLS handling library that should erm, handle this. [23:12] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: TLS: MLM [23:13] schestowitz-TR selling worthless junk over and over again [23:13] XRevan86 oh dang, weechat uses gnutls [23:13] schestowitz-TR mostly breaking things, not adding so much to real security [23:13] schestowitz-TR [22:20] Pseudo-security distraction from the principal culprits, such as #ProprietarySoftware #backdoors and collusion with secret agencies https://www.fosslife.org/broken-access-control-tops-owasps-list-web-security-risks [23:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | Broken Access Control Tops OWASPs List of Web Security Risks [23:14] XRevan86 schestowitz: As someone who knows what ISP MITM looks like, I disagree with that statement. [23:14] schestowitz-TR in Russia, yes [23:14] schestowitz-TR but... [23:14] schestowitz-TR assuming you want to know you come to the right IRC channel [23:14] schestowitz-TR to make techrights IRC would be hard [23:14] schestowitz-TR it's a public channel [23:14] schestowitz-TR they can read it anyway [23:14] XRevan86 But the problem isn't actually techrights or IRC specific. [23:15] schestowitz-TR I know [23:15] schestowitz-TR but I still think it is overused [23:15] schestowitz-TR all this https everywhere thing [23:15] schestowitz-TR even in read-only sites [23:15] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's very nice when an ISP cannot inject ads into the page. [23:16] XRevan86 People say Rostelecom does that. [23:16] schestowitz-TR this should be treated as a crime [23:16] schestowitz-TR and the ISP banned [23:16] XRevan86 What if the ISP is affiliated with the government? [23:16] MinceR it's also nice when dictatorships don't get to cherry-pick what you're allowed to read [23:16] XRevan86 DPIs become more and more prevalent. [23:17] schestowitz-TR yes, here also.. [23:17] schestowitz-TR now people use social control media [23:17] XRevan86 and in Russia DPI is state-mandatory, so it's a guarantee that there is one in the chain [23:17] schestowitz-TR so they traffic the data in another way [23:18] techrights-news Was Passenger Name Record data exploited to kidnap #Belarus journalist? Access Now calls for #EU investigation - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/belarus-eu-passenger-name-records/ #accessnow [23:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Was Passenger Name Record data exploited to kidnap Belarusian journalist? Access Now calls for EU investigation - Access Now [23:18] leah there is a psychological satisfaction that comes with booting with all updated software. after running apt-get upgrade. you feel clean, new, ready to take on the next set of challenges [23:19] techrights-news 10 Best Linux Tools For Digital Artists [2021] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156508 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Best Linux Tools For Digital Artists [2021] | Tux Machines [23:19] XRevan86 leah: Are ye sure ye didn't upgrade GnuTLS alongside WeeChat? [23:19] schestowitz-TR leah: and then install ZOOM :_) [23:19] leah perhaps it was gnutls [23:20] techrights-news #Mozilla: CISA, Rust, Rally, and SUMO http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156509 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla: CISA, Rust, Rally, and SUMO | Tux Machines [23:20] leah fuck zoom. big blue button does the job nicely and is free software [23:21] techrights-news #Atari ST Still Manages Campground Reservations After 36 Years | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/06/atari-st-still-manages-campground-reservations-after-36-years/ #hackaday [23:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Atari ST Still Manages Campground Reservations After 36 Years | Hackaday [23:21] schestowitz-TR leah: but you know what I meant... :/ [23:21] schestowitz-TR people who say things like, no vaccine "coz freedom" [23:21] leah well, i'm not a zoomer, so i'm unfamiliar [23:21] schestowitz-TR and then rant about "freedom"... in FACEBOOK [23:21] leah ah, right [23:22] schestowitz-TR libreboot... then Vivaldi [23:22] leah well, i'm running a fully free system with libreboot [23:22] leah and i use all free software freedom-respecting source code, compiled into freedom [23:22] leah and in some cases interpreted [23:23] schestowitz-TR this needs to become more accessible to people [23:23] schestowitz-TR not a niche [23:23] leah me running any proprietary software on my system would not be canon [23:23] schestowitz-TR freedombox still around? [23:23] leah i believe so [23:23] leah however, i have my doubts about such a project. my preference is to properly document instead how to set up servers from scratch, but make them nicer to work with [23:24] leah nginx for example is very nice to configure. simple and straightforward [23:24] leah even satisfying [23:24] leah but i can see the appeal that such a thing has [23:24] XRevan86 leah: Truth spoken :) [23:24] leah but i prefer to teach someone how something works, than to put a frontend over it [23:25] leah like when you teach a kid to swim. those armbands must come off eventually [23:25] leah schestowitz-TR: i actually want to create such a site [23:25] leah a website teaching people how to self-host stuff [23:26] leah i can even show people how to set up l2tp/vpn/ssh tunneling to circumvent ISP restrictions [23:26] leah i think this is important. give people freedom. and tell them about federated services like peertube, pleroma, etc [23:26] schestowitz-TR we did many articles and videos about it [23:27] schestowitz-TR it's easier to teach people gemini sel-hosting [23:27] schestowitz-TR it's easier to manage and scales well on copper residential connections [23:27] leah nginx+letsencrypt is also relatively simple to setup [23:28] schestowitz-TR writing html is not easy [23:28] schestowitz-TR it's only easy for those who already know how it is done [23:28] leah and you can run "build" in untitled on a crontab and just push markdown to a git repository. i have it on todo to add gemtext support to it. so as to host a dual gemtext/markdown site, for gemini:// and https://. 1 repository hosting sites on both protocols [23:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: .; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://. ) [23:28] schestowitz-TR in schools they need to teach gemini [23:28] leah with override possible for a given gemtext page, in the markdown version, so as to optimize certain pages (e.g. homepage) in the html version (pandoc markdown->html) [23:28] schestowitz-TR it would also help teach filess and 'folders' [sic] [23:29] leah btw [23:29] leah lbgmi.git is coming along nicely. i've got someone working on a libreboot site for gemini [23:29] schestowitz-TR cool [23:29] schestowitz-TR what about savegnu.org ? [23:30] leah abandoned for now. gnu assembly seems to have more bark than bite [23:30] leah i have bigger fish to fry [23:31] techrights-news The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part IV: The Founding States http://techrights.org/2021/10/06/epo-founding-states/ #europe #corruption #epo #patents #epc [23:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part IV: The Founding States | Techrights [23:31] leah those people can sort themselves out without my help [23:31] schestowitz-TR leah: good [23:31] schestowitz-TR and yes, they're off the radar, have been for months [23:32] schestowitz-TR any mention of them only helps them [23:32] leah yeah so no need to save gnu [23:32] leah gnu is fine [23:32] leah for now [23:32] schestowitz-TR http://techrights.org/2021/10/06/richard-stallman-france-talks/ [23:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Talks in France: Richard Stallman Talking in French in Two Places in France This Month | Techrights [23:33] leah the problem is that they acthually made good points. but what they were saying was irrelevant, because they just wanted power for themselves [23:33] leah and the status quo isn't broken. gnu does have good leadership under rms [23:34] leah and he does delegate things to others... and when he's gone, there are procedures in place to replace him, and have the project tick along just fine [23:34] leah imo the only thing gnu really needs is a better code forge. savannah is garbage [23:35] leah it's good if all you want is a bare git repository and a mailing list. if you want anything else, you're shit out of luck and have to run your own infrastructure. and many projects too [23:35] activelow what else should be offered besides mailing list and git repo? [23:35] leah in the end, we can talk about management structures but all that matters is code. if someone wants to work on your software, they will [23:36] leah and your only job is to review their code [23:36] leah activelow: if you want stuff like CI, that's lacking in savannah big-time [23:37] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [23:37] leah and a mailing list is inefficient for certain tasks. a bug tracker can move things along [23:37] activelow CI probably doesn't belong there. [23:37] activelow anyway [23:37] leah messages often get buried in a mailing list [23:38] leah the trouble is, fsf doesn't hire enough technical stuff. their current staff is already overworked and just able to maintain current infrastructure [23:38] leah they need more technical staff if they're going to overhaul that infrastructure [23:38] leah but then, fsf sysadmins are often told not to touch gnu [23:39] leah i think they could massively overhaul their infrastructure in a month. and leave the old services running while everyone migrates [23:39] leah savannah is the only real problem [23:40] leah it's clunky and hard to use for most people. they need something more user-friendly, so that someone can just very easily start a project. right now lots of people are moving away and using other services instead. gnu could really shine and be best in class but it's stagnating [23:41] leah fsf did speak of overhauling their infrastructure though. they made a blog post. they were looking into what could replace savannah [23:43] leah but that's their call to make [23:44] schestowitz-TR my guess: [23:44] schestowitz-TR they wanted gitlab as base system [23:44] schestowitz-TR but that never happened [23:44] schestowitz-TR RMS said gitlab was doing increasingly bad things [23:44] schestowitz-TR so maybe they regretted this plan [23:45] leah even gitea would be better than savannah [23:45] schestowitz-TR also, they would also stay behind the "real thing' [23:45] schestowitz-TR leah: we do git over gemini [23:45] leah the vast majority of projects only need something very simple [23:45] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/06/bunsenlabs-put-on-a-lot-of-weight-since-crunchbang-and-doesnt-support-hidpi-out-of-the-box-but-there-are-other-options/ [23:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | BunsenLabs put on a lot of weight since Crunchbang and doesnt support HiDPI out of the box. But there are other options. BaronHK's Rants [23:45] leah and gitea will satisfy most needs, while being lightweight [23:45] schestowitz-TR irc: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/chat/index.gmi [23:45] leah the notabug.org guy runs the infrastructure out of pocket [23:45] leah because gogs is cheap to run. and gitea is based on gogs [23:45] schestowitz-TR git: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/tr-git/Gemini/ [23:46] leah i think gitea would be a great choice for the fsf [23:46] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I go back into the mid 2000s and the horrors I had with a "Vista Capable" laptop that made me switch it to GNU/Linux immediately after the "Vista" installer finished and I saw what it ran like. [23:46] schestowitz-TR yeah [23:46] leah it's already better than savannah, and user-friendly [23:46] leah and lightweight [23:46] schestowitz-TR I loved gitea [23:46] schestowitz-TR but many deps [23:46] schestowitz-TR I looked into how to put that on alpine [23:46] DaemonFC Since I would have had to format to go back to Windows XP anyway, I just said fuck it and burned a Mandriva disc. [23:46] schestowitz-TR but we don't have enough code to justify maintaining such a bloated thing [23:47] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: can you proofread fast? [23:47] DaemonFC Bad time. Dinner. [23:47] DaemonFC I'll be back shortly. [23:47] schestowitz-TR ok, cheers [23:48] leah DaemonFC: and a lightweight distro would still run on that laptop [23:50] techrights-news #Sony Has Begun Accelerating Their Contributions To Open-Source / Linux - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Sony-More-Open-Source-2021 #openwashing , #gplcompliance or real sincerity? I guess the first two... [23:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sony Has Begun Accelerating Their Contributions To Open-Source / Linux - Phoronix [23:50] leah schestowitz-TR: the only thing that annoys me about browsers nowaday is how bloated they are [23:51] leah suckless's surf is a nice breath of fresh air. but in general, the web is too bloated, often times the amount of ram you burn through is just javascript applications running on your machine [23:51] techrights-news #Ampere #openwashing https://amperecomputing.com/open-source-firmware-monthly-cadence-of-new-releases-for-ampere-altra/ [23:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-amperecomputing.com | Open Source Firmware Monthly Cadence of New Releases for Ampere Altra Ampere Computing [23:51] leah i have my machine set up so that ram-hungry applications shut down, to avoid abusing swap [23:51] leah and firefox regularly trips it [23:52] techrights-news #Ampere : we'll dump some code on #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly and THERE! We're OPEN! #openwashing http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [23:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [23:52] leah i shouldn't need to have more than 512MB RAM installed on my computer, even if opening 20 tabs and doing emails. i have 4GB, which used to be a lot, but now its peanuts, because software got 10x more bloated [23:52] leah in 2005, i got by just fine on 512MB [23:52] schestowitz-TR leah: did you try netsurf? [23:52] schestowitz-TR I use it all day long [23:52] leah and i'm still using more or less the same software now [23:52] leah oh, i love netsurf [23:52] leah i have it installed, in fact [23:52] schestowitz-TR yes, I was on 512 and 256 mb of ram until 2007 or 2008 [23:53] leah i have all the lightweight browsers installed [23:53] leah try surf [23:53] schestowitz-TR then I need to upgrade to 2gb of ram [23:53] leah http://surf.suckless.org/ [23:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-surf.suckless.org | surf | suckless.org software that sucks less [23:53] schestowitz-TR last year for the first time I bumped up from 2gb [23:53] leah if you compile this but without javascript enabled, it's very fast [23:53] leah with javascript, and it's still fast, but the web itself is bloated [23:53] schestowitz-TR a browser alone could take a GB [23:53] leah but surf has a benefit over netsurf [23:53] schestowitz-TR I try gemini where possible [23:53] leah it uses webkit and as such, offers a more complete rendering engine [23:53] schestowitz-TR I wrote some scripts for that [23:54] leah you configure it by modifying the source code [23:54] leah so if you want javascript disabled, there's a toggle for that in src before building it [23:54] leah it's 2000 lines of source code [23:54] schestowitz-TR wow [23:54] leah yeah [23:54] schestowitz-TR ii is a lot less [23:54] leah it simply uses the webkit library [23:54] leah surf is basically just a webkit frontend [23:54] schestowitz-TR techrights-news and Techrights-ipfs are ii [23:54] schestowitz-TR suckless [23:54] leah barebones webkit frontend [23:54] leah you should look at more of their software :) [23:55] leah i've been informed that some of the people there are... a bit quirky, let's say [23:55] leah but the software is great [23:56] leah they have a nice window manager too: http://dwm.suckless.org/ [23:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dwm.suckless.org | dwm - dynamic window manager | suckless.org software that sucks less [23:56] schestowitz-TR iirc, ii is like a few hundreds of LOCs [23:56] schestowitz-TR some gemini clients are less than 100 [23:56] schestowitz-TR or servers [23:56] schestowitz-TR like solene's [23:56] leah also 2000 lines. it's basically just a very raw frontend on top of x. all their code is tiny, but punches well above its weight [23:56] leah there's also a fork of it for wayland, called dwl [23:57] activelow tmux :) [23:57] leah that too [23:58] leah st+tmux :) [23:58] leah http://st.suckless.org/ [23:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-st.suckless.org | st - simple terminal | suckless.org software that sucks less [23:58] leah dwm+st+tmux+surf+tabbed and then use a lightweight mail client like mutt [23:58] leah (with vim for composing mails) [23:58] leah and you've got a very light setup [23:59] leah i'm migrating to all of that soon. i'm currently on lxde, which i now regard as bloat, after looking at their site [23:59] activelow i fully drop x11 (and wayland) [23:59] leah that's hardcore [23:59] activelow i even dropped unix98 pty recently, and patched tmux to support it on linux