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[00:07]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], Now Google is doing "voluntary exit programs".
[00:09]	MinceR	exitus mortalis
[00:11]	MinceR	exitus letalis
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[00:54]	DarwinElf	HackerRank.com claims "developers don't write code anymore".  Their hacker rank is now negative infinity.  Right?
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[02:49]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, November 05, 2026
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[02:57]	IsambardPrince	Conscious Spend
[02:57]	IsambardPrince	
[02:57]	IsambardPrince	Follow
[02:57]	IsambardPrince	12 hours ago
[02:57]	IsambardPrince	
[02:57]	IsambardPrince	Its official. Walmart might be one of the most dystopian stores out there.
[02:57]	IsambardPrince	A woman has filed a class action lawsuit saying that when she called her local Walmart, an AI phone system captured and stored her voice print.
[02:57]	IsambardPrince	A voice print is part of your biometric data. Unlike a password, you cant reset it once its out there. Walmart hasnt been found liable yet.
[02:57]	IsambardPrince	But this isnt the first time. Walmart has already been sued in Illinois over allegedly scanning workers fingerprints, customers faces, and warehouse workers voice prints through headsets.
[02:57]	IsambardPrince	Records reviewed by BuzzFeed News showed Walmart employee accounts ran nearly 300 searches on Clearview AI, a facial recognition tool built from billions of photos scraped off social media.
[02:57]	IsambardPrince	And what Walmart has patented is worse. In 2018, Walmart was granted a patent called Listening to the Front End. It puts sensors at checkout that capture conversations between workers and customers, ties that audio to a specific employee, and scores their performance. It can even run speech recognition on what was said.
[02:57]	IsambardPrince	Walmart hasnt publicly said whether it has built it.
[02:57]	IsambardPrince	If youre like me and dont want to support companies like this, use the Conscious Spend app to see how ethical the companies you buy from really are, and find better alternatives to the ones that score poorly.
[02:57]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], ^
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[03:23]	TR News	 (NEW):  Sigil 2.8.5 Open-Source EPUB Editor Released with Modern CSS Parsing https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Sigil_2_8_5_Open_Source_EPUB_Editor_Released_with_Modern_CSS_Pa.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Sigil_2_8_5_Open_Source_EPUB_Editor_Released_with_Modern_CSS_Pa.gmi 
[03:23]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Sigil 2.8.5 Open-Source EPUB Editor Released with Modern CSS Parsing
[03:58]	TR News	 (NEW):  Calibre 9.18 Open-Source E-Book Manager Adds New Tool to Make Books Accessible https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Calibre_9_18_Open_Source_E_Book_Manager_Adds_New_Tool_to_Make_B.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Calibre_9_18_Open_Source_E_Book_Manager_Adds_New_Tool_to_Make_B.gmi 
[03:58]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Calibre 9.18 Open-Source E-Book Manager Adds New Tool to Make Books Accessible
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[04:13]	TR News	openssh bugfix https://lists.mindrot.org/pipermail/openssh-unix-dev/2026-November/042842.html
[04:13]	TR Bot	 urgent security release: 10.6p2
[04:14]	TR News	"Goodbye from Salon - Salon.com" https://www.salon.com/2026/11/05/goodbye-from-salon/ Anon: killed by, among other things, Microsoft Slate which was launched with the sole purpose of competing against Salon
[04:14]	TR Bot	from Salon - Salon.com
[04:20]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D1791.jpg
[04:20]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D2148.jpg
[04:21]	TR News	"This was a performance of the musical Hadestown, in London, in 2025, but I wasn't in London or 2025. We went to see it at the cinema - one of the many things cinemas now offer to stave off terminal decline." gemini://lab6.com/mlog/2026/11/06/hades/
[04:23]	TR News	"Molly-brown appears to be the most mature and developed Gemini server I've found. I actually asked on the Gemini BBS for further options, and generally the advice was to run my own developed server. Hmmm yes." gemini://gemini.yunzi.co.uk/gemlog/2026-11-05-goaccess.gmi
[04:24]	TR News	heading home gemini://coldscars.smol.pub/heading_home
[04:25]	TR News	"Something is happening in the US that I wouldnt have expected: new electronics shops are opening there." gemini://schreibfaultier.pollux.casa/blog/2026-11-05-where-has-the-electronics-shop-gone.en.gmi
[04:25]	TR News	ramen noodles gemini://meow.team/gemlog/ramen-noodles.gmi
[04:26]	TR News	"Taking a longer break from browsing the smallnet means having to rebuild certain habits. Regular reading can sometimes exhaust the available resources, especially when there is nothing new left to read. I, on the other hand, have quite a backlog to catch up on." gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/szczezuja/phlog/2026-11-05-Learn-to-read-with-care.txt
[04:30]	TR News	Techrights https://techrights.org/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/ 
[04:30]	TR Bot	 Techrights
[04:30]	TR News	Techrights Gemini Links 06/11/2026: Hadestown and "Where Has the Electronics Shop Gone?" https://techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Gemini_Links_06_11_2026_Hadestown_and_Where_Has_the_Electronics.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Gemini_Links_06_11_2026_Hadestown_and_Where_Has_the_Electronics.gmi 
[04:30]	TR Bot	 Techrights Gemini Links 06/11/2026: Hadestown and "Where Has the Electronics Shop Gone?"
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[04:49]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, November 05, 2026
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[04:50]	TR News	Yesterday's Tux Machines bulletin is now ready! : http://news.tuxmachines.org/txt-archives/tuxmachines-2026-11-05.txt
[04:52]	TR News	Yesterday and Will Do the Same Next Week https://techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/During_Strikes_and_Industrial_Actions_Lots_of_EPO_Staff_Organis.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/During_Strikes_and_Industrial_Actions_Lots_of_EPO_Staff_Organis.gmi 
[04:52]	TR Bot	 Techrights During Strikes and Industrial Actions Lots of EPO Staff Organised Yesterday and Will Do the Same Next Week
[04:55]	TR News	Techrights IRC Proceedings: Thursday, November 05, 2026 https://techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/IRC_Proceedings_Thursday_November_05_2026.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/IRC_Proceedings_Thursday_November_05_2026.gmi 
[04:55]	TR Bot	 Techrights IRC Proceedings: Thursday, November 05, 2026
[04:56]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today in Techrights https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Today_in_Techrights.gmi 
[04:56]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Today in Techrights
[04:58]	TR News	Techrights Over at Tux Machines... https://techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Over_at_Tux_Machines.gmi 
[04:58]	TR Bot	 Techrights Over at Tux Machines...
● Nov 06
[05:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m6kssepj
[05:16]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m6kssepj )
[05:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[05:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	@de one of the best posts on here in a long while- thank you!
[05:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	@ay I want to add that it will follow you for the rest of you career at ibm and pop up all the time. We all know its unfair and bullsh-t so it su-ks to have this mark on your record from some random manager in your past you probably havent even seen 15 years prior
[05:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[05:23]	TR News	Techrights Mass Layoffs at IBM, Also Outsourcing to India https://techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Mass_Layoffs_at_IBM_Also_Outsourcing_to_India.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Mass_Layoffs_at_IBM_Also_Outsourcing_to_India.gmi 
[05:23]	TR Bot	 Techrights Mass Layoffs at IBM, Also Outsourcing to India
[05:33]	TR News	Techrights Intel Craters at Taxpayers' Expense (Bailouts for Failing Companies Simple Don't Work) https://techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Intel_Craters_at_Taxpayers_Expense_Bailouts_for_Failing_Compani.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Intel_Craters_at_Taxpayers_Expense_Bailouts_for_Failing_Compani.gmi 
[05:33]	TR Bot	 Techrights Intel Craters at Taxpayers' Expense (Bailouts for Failing Companies Simple Don't Work)
[05:39]	IsambardPrince	Nvidia erased $400 billion in market cap today.
[05:41]	IsambardPrince	https://wgntv.com/news/south-suburbs/community-violence-interrupter-killed/
[05:41]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://wgntv.com/news/south-suburbs/community-violence-interrupter-killed/ )
[05:41]	IsambardPrince	"Workers mourn community violence interrupter shot and killed in Chicago Heights"
[05:42]	IsambardPrince	I feel like there's a lesson to be explained here, but I'm not going to be the one to do it.
[05:42]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, ^
[05:44]	IsambardPrince	Oh hell. 
[05:44]	IsambardPrince	So, Community Violence Interrupters sounds good on a chart that the dumbest Chicago mayor ever can point a pointy stick at.
[05:44]	IsambardPrince	But when you see two people yelling at each other about something and one of them has a gun, you shouldn't interrupt that.
[05:44]	IsambardPrince	Because then the one that gets shot is you.
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[06:05]	TR News	Manchester City Council Report Card Part 1 City Council Not Interested in Criticism When Services Demonstrably Fail https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2026/11/06/manchester-city-council-report-card-part-1-city-council-not-interested-in-criticism-when-services-demonstrably-fail/
[06:05]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Manchester City Council Report Card Part 1 City Council Not Interested in Criticism When Services Demonstrably Fail
[06:05]	TR News	Manchester City Council Report Card Part 2 Four Weeks for Humans to Deal With Time-Critical Web Forms (or Requests Made Online) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2026/11/06/manchester-city-council-report-card-part-2-four-weeks-for-humans-to-deal-with-time-critical-web-forms-or-requests-made-online/
[06:05]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Manchester City Council Report Card Part 2 Four Weeks for Humans to Deal With Time-Critical Web Forms (or Requests Made Online)
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[06:15]	TR News	Manchester City Council Report Card Part 3 Unfriendly Staff https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2026/11/06/manchester-city-council-report-card-part-3-unfriendly-staff/
[06:15]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Manchester City Council Report Card Part 3 Unfriendly Staff
[06:45]	TR News	Techrights Intercontinental Brigading - Part XXXX - Swatting by Proxy https://techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Intercontinental_Brigading_Part_XXXX_Swatting_by_Proxy.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Intercontinental_Brigading_Part_XXXX_Swatting_by_Proxy.gmi 
[06:45]	TR Bot	 Techrights Intercontinental Brigading - Part XXXX - Swatting by Proxy
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[06:49]	TR News	"Sounds like a market correction. They've spent over $100 billion on stock buybacks to pump the price. Meanwhile AMD decided to invest in engineering." https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=26/11/03/2342251#1458693
[06:49]	TR Bot	 PC Chip Plunge Wipes Out A Quarter Of Intels Value - SoylentNews
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[07:19]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], Do you think that Nvidia will announce mass layoffs and do you think the Security Theater guy will work there much longer?
[07:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's not clear
[07:22]	schestowitz[TR2]	not to comment on the puppy breaker in isolation
[07:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	but the company as a whole
[07:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	i have informants there
[07:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	they plan to leave
[07:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	NVIDIA is a terrible employer
[07:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	no life-work balance
[07:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	and too much cult-like things
[07:23]	IsambardPrince	It will be good to see the slop bubble fall apart.
[07:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	the cult of slop
[07:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	worse
[07:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	they foce skilled programmers to use  "CLAUSE"
[07:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	CLAUDE
[07:23]	IsambardPrince	All the people that brought it to us, like Nadella, scurrying into the dark corners, like roaches.
[07:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	remember the company RELIES on this bubble
[07:23]	IsambardPrince	Security Theater Man in the unemployment line.
[07:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	so it needs to signal that it swallows EVERYTHING
[07:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	it cannot say 
[07:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	"no, not interested"
[07:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	"clause is shit"
[07:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	its biggest clients are pushers of this
[07:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	and it sponsors those clients
[07:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	in order to fake "sales"
[07:24]	IsambardPrince	So much of that revenue is a lie, it's ridiculous. What revenue there is, is largely circular.
[07:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	<IsambardPrince> Security Theater Man in the unemployment line.
[07:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	his friend graveley worked in a slop company
[07:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	now:
[07:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	http://techrights.org/n/2026/10/04/Garrett_s_Litigation_Partner_is_Unemployed_Again.shtml
[07:25]	TR Bot	 Techrights Garrett's Litigation Partner is Unemployed Again
[07:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	yes, the "Revenue" is fake
[07:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	the 101 example
[07:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	for your mom
[07:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	who is not technical
[07:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	if i pay you to pay from me
[07:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	so i can put it in my balance sheet
[07:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	that's what they all do
[07:25]	schestowitz[TR2]	in a circle-jerk
[07:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	the whole loop is a big red/minus
[07:26]	IsambardPrince	Lozza is an imbecile.
[07:26]	schestowitz[TR2]	it bleeds money
[07:26]	IsambardPrince	And the whole "trans" thing is a losing issue in America.
[07:26]	IsambardPrince	if you want to lose the election, start throwing "trans" stuff in people's faces.
[07:26]	IsambardPrince	Even as the Democrats picked up a record-breaking set of election victories, they did it by shutting their fucking faces about trans people.
[07:27]	IsambardPrince	And during the election, voters in Colorado and Washington state banned trans students from school sports.
[07:27]	IsambardPrince	There's nowhere in America these issues are popular.
[07:27]	IsambardPrince	The "trans" thing is one of the reasons Donald Trump won the election in 2024.
[07:27]	IsambardPrince	The US had devolved into "competitive authoritarianism".
[07:28]	IsambardPrince	I'm certainly hoping this is subsiding and they pick a better candidate next time.
[07:28]	IsambardPrince	Microsoft got rid of their DEI hiring program the same time all tech companies did.
[07:28]	IsambardPrince	As soon as the Democrats lost the 2024 election.
[07:29]	IsambardPrince	We've got a new crop of Democrats who are further to the left, but to not touch THAT again.
[07:29]	IsambardPrince	They seem to realize that it's a third rail and they were not taking the correct position.
[07:29]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's not a left issue
[07:29]	IsambardPrince	It shouldn't be.
[07:30]	IsambardPrince	I'm not sure what "trans issues" are really. I mean, the only one I see prominently displayed is they want sick people on a health insurance pool to be forced to pay higher premiums to cover their cosmetic surgery bills.
[07:30]	IsambardPrince	And hormones.
[07:31]	IsambardPrince	They have the medical expenses of a terminally ill person.
[07:31]	IsambardPrince	And they want everyone else to pay for that.
[07:31]	IsambardPrince	We should pay to help them. Atypical antipsychotics work wonders on Schizophrenia.
[07:31]	IsambardPrince	It's patient compliance that is usually a problem.
[07:42]	TR News	Techrights Freedom Is Not Free of Charge, Freedom Can be Very Expensive https://techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Freedom_Is_Not_Free_of_Charge_Freedom_Can_be_Very_Expensive.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Freedom_Is_Not_Free_of_Charge_Freedom_Can_be_Very_Expensive.gmi 
[07:42]	TR Bot	 Techrights Freedom Is Not Free of Charge, Freedom Can be Very Expensive
[07:49]	TR News	GAFAM collapses, blames "hey hi", calls layoffs "buyout". Liars and frauds never admit defeat.
[07:49]	TR News	"What does the commons mean to you? For Creative Commons 25th anniversary, we posed this question to some of the people behind CC." https://creativecommons.org/2026/11/05/commons-stories-part-3/ | Source: Creative Commons
[07:49]	TR Bot	 Commons Stories: Part 3 - Creative Commons
[07:50]	TR News	"Penske just recently moved forward with the appeal after the tech giant closed out September by scoring a high-profile victory." https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2026/11/04/penske-media-google-lawsuit-appeal/ | Source: Digital Music News
[07:50]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2026/11/04/penske-media-google-lawsuit-appeal/ )
[07:50]	TR News	"Over seven years ago, SoundExchange sued Music Choice for allegedly failing to pay millions in due royalties (and late fees) on its Music Choice for Business service." https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2026/11/05/soundexchange-v-music-choice/ | Source: Digital Music News
[07:50]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2026/11/05/soundexchange-v-music-choice/ )
[07:51]	TR News	"The LZW algorithm that made GIFs possible was actually under patent. The patent was owned by a company called Unisys Corp." https://box.matto.nl/burn-all-gifsday-was-27-years-ago.html | Source: MJ Fransen
[07:51]	TR Bot	All GIFs-day was 27 years ago - box.matto.nl
[07:53]	TR News	"their article summarizes the problem: [...]" https://werd.io/to-protect-the-web-we-need-to-renegotiate-its-value/ | Source: Ben Werdmuller
[07:53]	TR Bot	 To protect the web, we need to renegotiate its value.
[07:53]	TR News	"Average monthly fibre data use reached 741 GB in September, up 11 percent year-on-year. July was the busiest month, averaging 760 GB per connection. Chorus recorded a peak network throughput of 4.9 Tbps (terabits per second) during a Fortnite update." https://billbennett.co.nz/chorus-data-spike-spark-5g-lead-comcom-fibre-map/ | Source: Bill Bennett
[07:53]	TR Bot	 Chorus data use climbs. Spark takes 5G lead in latest report
[07:54]	TR News	"Facebook will own the [Internet] forever" https://pluralistic.net/2026/11/05/see-you-in-court/#suing-the-refs | Source: CoryDoctorow
[07:54]	TR Bot	 Pluralistic: Without CDA 230, Facebook will own the internet forever (05 Nov 2026) Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
[07:56]	TR News	"I originally built the Internet Infrastructure Map because I thought undersea fiber-optic cables were interesting." https://kmcd.dev/posts/from-copper-to-glass/ | Source: Kevin McDonald
[07:56]	TR Bot	 The Physical Internet: From Copper to Glass
[07:56]	TR News	"Its worth being precise here because people mix this up. The July 2024 blackout was not caused by a cable failure." https://blog.apnic.net/2026/11/05/the-internet-didnt-break-we-just-forgot-what-it-was-leaning-on/ | Source: APNIC
[07:56]	TR Bot	 The Internet didnt break; we just forgot what it was leaning on | APNIC Blog
[07:56]	TR News	"But, no, the billionaire tech bros decided this was their chance to go all in for fascism, and now the entire tech industry will almost certainly pay the regulatory price." https://www.techdirt.com/2026/11/05/the-tech-bros-who-bet-on-fascism-lost-dont-let-the-internet-pay-for-it/ | Source: Techdirt
[07:56]	TR Bot	Tech Bros Who Bet On Fascism Lost. Dont Let The Internet Pay For It. | Techdirt
[07:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	<IsambardPrince> They have the medical expenses of a terminally ill person.
[07:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's not about costs only
[07:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	there are many people
[07:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	who are left on every issue
[07:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	who still object to women competition against people who are not women
[07:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	as it would ruin the sports
[07:59]	TR News	"A century later, the myth of embattled masculinity resurged within the manosphere, an umbrella term for misogynistic communities online." https://www.projectcensored.org/jane-doe-and-the-manosphere/ | Source: Project Censored
[07:59]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/jane-doe-and-the-manosphere/ )
● Nov 06
[08:00]	TR News	"How does Helsinki look and sound in Swedish? The answer could be anything during Swedish Week, held 28 November in Helsinki." https://www.hel.fi/en/news/punk-piano-prose-and-everything-in-between-how-helsinki-celebrates-swedish-week | Source: City of Helsinki
[08:00]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.hel.fi/en/news/punk-piano-prose-and-everything-in-between-how-helsinki-celebrates-swedish-week )
[08:00]	TR News	"The experiences of the Welsh speakers became even more interesting when I compared them with those of Swedish speakers in Finland." https://theconversation.com/from-wales-to-finland-minority-language-speakers-still-face-prejudice-289007 | Source: The Conversation
[08:00]	TR Bot	 From Wales to Finland, minority language speakers still face prejudice
[08:01]	TR News	"The site announced Thursday in a farewell post that it would go dark later Thursday." https://deadline.com/2026/11/online-media-pioneer-salon-shutting-down-1237214965/ | Source: Deadline
[08:01]	TR Bot	 Online Media Pioneer Salon To Shutter: "Our Publishing Model Is No Longer Sustainable"
[08:01]	TR News	"The sudden decision took pundits and journalists by surprise and appeared to be solely a financial one." https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/just-in-salon-shutting-down-after-31-years/ | Source: Mediaite
[08:01]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/just-in-salon-shutting-down-after-31-years/ )
[08:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	IsambardPrince: yoou can still recall,
[08:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	who ttold you,
[08:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	that at least "i did not beat up the wife"
[08:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	well, now this person can join a boxing vclub
[08:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	and start punching many random women
[08:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	using men's muuscles
[08:05]	TR News	"stay live for now." https://www.theverge.com/news/1028281/salon-dot-com-shuts-down | Source: The Verge
[08:05]	TR Bot	 Salon is shutting down after 31 years | The Verge
[08:05]	TR News	"Salon joins later-arriving sites such as Buzzfeed and Gawker that found it difficult to monetize cultural and topical reporting for a general audience and eventually shut down." https://variety.com/2026/digital/news/salon-com-shuts-down-site-31-years-1236940936/ | Source: Variety
[08:05]	TR Bot	 Salon Shuts Down Cultural and Political Site After 31 Years
[08:05]	TR News	"Salon was never just a website" https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/05/business/media/salon-online-magazine-shutters.html | Source: New York Times
[08:05]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/05/business/media/salon-online-magazine-shutters.html )
[08:05]	andy	mornin
[08:06]	andy	why would Salon shutter? At a time when culture and politics are more important than ever?
[08:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	spoke to rianne about this in kitchen moments ago
[08:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	"do you know salon"?
[08:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	"yes"
[08:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	it was online 31 years
[08:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	since 1995
[08:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	web is from 1991
[08:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	not many sites exist from the 90s
[08:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	ipwatchdog is one
[08:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	techdirt another
[08:07]	IsambardPrince	I've never hurt anyone.
[08:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	late 90s i think
[08:08]	IsambardPrince	I'm not a violent person.
[08:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	cnn and others predate the web
[08:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	they just adopted web presence
[08:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	my guess is 
[08:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	re salon
[08:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	they say financiaal reasons
[08:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	maybe they too were receiving slaps
[08:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	but i cannot prove it
[08:08]	IsambardPrince	If I had political power, we'd have a death sentence, for the very worst people.
[08:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	most peopple stay quit about slapps
[08:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's part of how slapps work
[08:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	they make threats not to publish about them
[08:08]	IsambardPrince	A death sentence for the very worst criminals is not a holocaust. Japan gives heinous criminals the death sentence.
[08:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	patent trolls ar ethe smae
[08:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	*the same
[08:09]	IsambardPrince	And nobody says Japan is a violent savage country.
[08:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	wait\
[08:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	ask people who died decades ago
[08:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	about ruthless japan
[08:09]	IsambardPrince	I don't agree with what Gavin Newsom did yesterday.
[08:09]	TR News	"The site, which built its reputation from politics, arts and culture coverage, announced its closure just weeks before its anniversary on 20 November." https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/nov/05/salon-website-shuts-down | Source: The Guardian UK
[08:09]	TR Bot	 Salon, internets oldest general interest publication, shuts down after 31 years | US press and publishing | The Guardian
[08:10]	IsambardPrince	He just issued a blanket clemency to all of California's worst criminals at once.
[08:10]	IsambardPrince	He didn't review their cases.
[08:10]	IsambardPrince	He didn't give some of them the benefit of the doubt.
[08:10]	TR News	"Salon began its life in the mid-1990s, barely three years after the [Internet] sic itself went mainstream and a time when the World Wide Web was still written out in that fashion." https://apnews.com/article/salon-media-online-news-shutdown-387aebeaf5d2ff80450bfba780ac9d6c | Source: Associated Press
[08:10]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://apnews.com/article/salon-media-online-news-shutdown-387aebeaf5d2ff80450bfba780ac9d6c )
[08:10]	TR News	"Salon began its life in the mid-1990s, barely three years after the internet itself went mainstream and a time when the World Wide Web was still written out in that fashion." https://abcnews.com/Entertainment/wireStory/online-magazine-salon-early-staple-internet-discourse-announces-137894108 | Source: ABC
[08:10]	TR Bot	 Online magazine Salon, early staple of internet discourse, shuts down - ABC News
[08:10]	IsambardPrince	He indiscriminately commuted the death sentence of people who are guilty as sin.
[08:10]	TR News	[Old] "Slate got its start when Michael Kingsley left the New Republic in late 1995" https://thehistoryoftheweb.com/salon-vs-slate/ | Source: The History of the Web
[08:11]	TR Bot	 Salon, Slate, and a History of the Tricky Business of Publishing Online - The History of the Web
[08:11]	IsambardPrince	Even Joe Biden made exceptions.
[08:11]	IsambardPrince	Most got clemency, the very worst ones did not.
[08:11]	TR News	"Today, after 31 years, we are saddened to announce that Salon is ceasing publication." https://www.salon.com/2026/11/05/goodbye-from-salon/ | Source: Salon
[08:11]	TR Bot	from Salon - Salon.com
[08:11]	IsambardPrince	Clemency is to correct something the courts did wrong.
[08:11]	IsambardPrince	When it gets used like this, the attack ads write themselves.
[08:12]	IsambardPrince	They'll say the Democrats are working for criminals, not you.
[08:12]	IsambardPrince	I will not vote for Gavin Newsom if he is in the 2028 primary election.
[08:12]	TR News	"Should I be trying to replicate this?" https://www.baldurbjarnason.com/2026/automation-and-self-censorship/ | Source: Baldur Bjarnason
[08:12]	TR Bot	 Automation, algorithms, and self-censorship
[08:12]	TR News	[Old] "After finishing his doctoral thesis on Hegel, Snellman was appointed to the post of lecturer at the Imperial University in 1835." https://finland.fi/life-society/j-v-snellman-without-him-where-would-finland-be/ |
[08:12]	TR Bot	 J.V. Snellman: Where would Finland be without him? - thisisFINLAND
[08:12]	IsambardPrince	I would vote for JB Pritzker, or Jon Ossoff, or someone like that. 
[08:13]		*Received a CTCP VERSION from StatServ
[08:13]	IsambardPrince	But the last thing we need is a distraction like this that hands the executive branch back over to whoever MAGA says is Trump's successor, on a silver platter.
[08:13]	andy	it will be interesting when the real reasons for Salon's closure come to light, if they are closing the company they've no incientive not to tell all (regardless slapps and NDAs and weirld US legal fascism)
[08:13]	IsambardPrince	The presidency depends on national popularity and the US average is not "California".
[08:14]	IsambardPrince	We need people who will bring in red and swing states, and get to "kitchen table issues".
[08:14]	IsambardPrince	Like wages, healthcare, the cost of living, gas prices.
[08:14]	IsambardPrince	The culture wars didn't work out.
[08:15]	TR News	"Some researchers at Google DeepMind in Britain are protesting a clause in their contracts that bars them from criticising the company for the rest of their lives" https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/google-deepmind-staff-lifetime-criticism-ban-1830419 | Source: International Business Times
[08:15]	TR Bot	 Google Researchers Protest Lifetime Gag They Say Could Silence Criticism of the Company and Warnings About AI Risks | IBTimes UK
[08:15]	TR News	"Workers inside Googles artificial intelligence division are pushing executives to release them from non-disparagement agreements" https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/11/03/google-deepmind-staff-protest-lifetime-ban-criticizing-company/ | Source: The Washington Post
[08:15]	TR Bot	stream 1 was not closed cleanly: INTERNAL_ERROR (err 2) ( status 0 @ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/11/03/google-deepmind-staff-protest-lifetime-ban-criticizing-company/ )
[08:15]	IsambardPrince	Nobody took a poll, they just tried to inflict some weird shit on an American public that was freaked out by it.
[08:15]	TR News	"Two of the labs staffers told the paper of a discussion group organized by their fellow workers to discuss the implications of the non-disparagement clause" https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/google-deepmind-workers-silenced-censorship-ai | Source: Futurism
[08:15]	TR Bot	 Google Staffers Say They're Being Silenced From Telling the Public the Truth About AI
[08:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	<andy> it will be interesting when the real reasons for Salon's closure come to light, if they are closing the company they've no incientive not to tell all (regardless slapps and NDAs and weirld US legal fascism)
[08:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	maybe contact some by email
[08:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	i saw no explanation
[08:16]	IsambardPrince	Only in this election did we get the first openly gay US Senator.
[08:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	just official void-of-facts statemernt
[08:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	something something money shut down goodbye
[08:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	reminds me of news of the world
[08:16]	IsambardPrince	I don't think they should try to emphasize trans issues. That's an issue for 2040 maybe.
[08:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	it was shut down by our former solicitor
[08:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	after it had done many illegall things
[08:16]	andy	yes it seems like the boilerplate that precedes the real announcement
[08:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	inc. the famous/infamous hacking [sic] of dead girl's phone
[08:16]	IsambardPrince	Richard Nixon said he wasn't opposed to gay rights, he just couldn't run on it in the 1970s.
[08:17]	schestowitz[TR2]	and murdoch  was put in the DOCK over thisd
[08:17]	IsambardPrince	He said "You're talking about the year 2000."
[08:17]	IsambardPrince	And he wasn't far off. (Lawrence v. Texas happened a couple years after 2000.)
[08:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	andy: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/billionaire-peter-thiel-is-reportedly-bankrolling-hulk-hogan-s-lawsuit-against-gawker-a7048901.html
[08:18]	TR Bot	( status 429 @ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/billionaire-peter-thiel-is-reportedly-bankrolling-hulk-hogan-s-lawsuit-against-gawker-a7048901.html )
[08:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	compare to http://techrights.org/n/2025/09/12/The_Mind_of_the_Hulk_Hogan_of_UEFI.shtml
[08:18]	TR Bot	 Techrights The Mind of the 'Hulk Hogan of UEFI'
[08:18]	IsambardPrince	if you try to force one issue that loses the election, your entire platform goes out with it.
[08:18]	IsambardPrince	And you get a Trump.
[08:18]	TR News	"It is no mystery why Musk and the wider tech industry cared so much about this election." https://www.truthdig.com/articles/ais-no-good-very-bad-election/ | Source: Truthdig
[08:18]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.truthdig.com/articles/ais-no-good-very-bad-election/ )
[08:18]	TR News	"By now Ive read or seen every major victory speech from Tuesdays remarkable election." https://robertreich.substack.com/p/the-best-victory-speech | Source: Robert Reich
[08:18]	TR Bot	 The Best Victory Speech - Robert Reich
[08:19]	TR News	"stunning rebuke" https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/what-democrats-can-do | Source: Paul Krugman
[08:19]	TR Bot	 What Democrats Can Do - Paul Krugman
[08:19]	TR News	"voters roundly reject data centers" https://www.semafor.com/article/11/04/2026/us-voters-roundly-reject-data-centers-in-ballot-measures | Source: Semafor Inc
[08:19]	TR Bot	voters roundly reject data centers in ballot measures | Semafor
[08:19]	TR News	"disavowing President Donald Trumps administration and the Universitys planned data center with Los Alamos National Laboratory in Ypsilanti Township." https://www.michigandaily.com/news/elections/makled-brown-elected-to-umich-board-of-regents-in-democratic-blowout/ | Source: University of Michigan
[08:19]	TR Bot	 Makled, Brown elected to UMich Board of Regents, Democrats keep majority
[08:20]	TR News	"EFF monitored nearly 100 bills in the state over the two-year session." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/11/reflecting-digital-rights-wins-and-losses-sacramento | Source: EFF
[08:20]	TR Bot	 Reflecting on Digital Rights Wins and Losses in Sacramento | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[08:20]	TR News	"AI companies are racing to lock down clients in the oil industry." https://www.semafor.com/article/11/05/2026/ai-companies-race-to-lock-down-oil-clients | Source: Semafor Inc
[08:20]	TR Bot	companies race to lock down oil clients | Semafor
[08:20]	TR News	"Communities across the nation voted on 41 data center-related ballot initiatives on Tuesday." https://newrepublic.com/post/217485/data-centers-ballot-initiatives-midterms | Source: New Republic
[08:20]	TR Bot	 10 States With Data Centers on the Ballot All Voted to Ban Them | The New Republic
[08:24]	TR News	"As part of her coverage, Reingold posted a photo on X singling out a woman in a gaudy outfit, seemingly to make a point: that Michigan Democrats are rich and opulent, disconnected from the American working class." https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/journalist-admits-ai-photo-smear-democrat | Source: Futurism
[08:24]	TR Bot	 Journalist Admits She Used AI to Edit Photo Smearing Democrat Voters
[08:24]	TR News	"A growing body of evidence demonstrates that Donald Trump was an active participant in Jeffrey Epsteins sexual abuse of young women during the mid-to-late 1990s" https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2026-11-01/will-we-ever-learn-truth-about-trumps-ties-to-sex-trafficker-jeffrey-epstein | Source: Los Angeles Times
[08:24]	TR Bot	 Will we ever learn the truth about Trump's ties to sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein? - Los Angeles Times
[08:25]	TR News	 (NEW):  Nura in 2026-10: OSC Tokio, statutes, and project updates https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Nura_in_2026_10_OSC_Tokio_statutes_and_project_updates.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Nura_in_2026_10_OSC_Tokio_statutes_and_project_updates.gmi 
[08:25]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Nura in 2026-10: OSC Tokio, statutes, and project updates
[08:36]	TR News	 (NEW):  Free and Open Source Software https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Free_and_Open_Source_Software.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Free_and_Open_Source_Software.gmi 
[08:37]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Free and Open Source Software
[08:37]	TR News	"Winning is just the beginning. Now's the time to seize power." https://www.thehandbasket.co/p/midterm-mandate-blue-tsunami-democrats-power | Source: Marisa Kabas
[08:37]	TR Bot	 The midterm mandate
[08:37]	TR News	"violations of due process and separation of powers" https://www.commondreams.org/newswire/free-speech-for-people-launches-time-to-impeach-campaign-ahead-of-new-congress | Source: Common Dreams
[08:37]	TR Bot	 Free Speech for People Launches 'Time to Impeach' Campaign Ahead of New Congress | Common Dreams
[08:40]	TR News	"GM allegedly sold customers location information and driver behavior data to third parties, including data brokers, who then resold it to insurance companies" https://www.theepochtimes.com/business/gm-agrees-to-220-million-settlement-over-selling-driver-data-6111577 | Source: The Epoch Times
[08:40]	TR Bot	 GM Agrees to $220 Million Settlement Over Selling Driver Data | The Epoch Times
[08:41]	TR News	"Now here's the catch. DNS resolution doesn't happen over a single connection. [...] But you can also configure a forward-zone in Unbound. Instead of resolving DNS queries itself, Unbound can forward them to another DNS resolver." https://www.karthihegde.dev/posts/dns_tampering |
[08:41]	TR Bot	 So my ISP was hijacking my DNS - Karthikey Hegde
[08:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	andy: if you find a clue or answer, let us know
[08:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	it seems value from them
[08:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	and the timing, politicially
[08:41]	TR News	"Before you take the title of this post literally, there are a few basics to follow to get it right: [...]" https://ounapuu.ee/posts/2026/11/05/pentesting/ | Source: Herman unapuu
[08:41]	TR Bot	 Go ahead, change that number in the URL of that service that you use | ./techtipsy
[08:41]	TR News	"The security firm Layer3 Intel said it detected multiple residential proxy nodes beaconing out from the internet address network reserved for the Executive Office of the President (AS2650)." https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/11/want-to-rent-an-internet-address-at-the-white-house/ | Source: Krebs On Security
[08:41]	TR Bot	 Want to Rent an Internet Address at the White House? Krebs on Security
[08:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	this decision was made in thr shadow by the person funding that site
[08:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	subsidising the losses
[08:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	something changed
[08:42]	TR News	Windows TCO https://www.western-water.com/2026/11/05/water-and-rural-utilities-back-federal-cybersecurity-law/ | Source: Western Water
[08:42]	TR Bot	 Water and rural utilities back federal cybersecurity law | We ...
[08:42]	TR News	Windows TCO https://therecord.media/queens-library-ransomware-causes-disruptions | Source: The Record
[08:42]	TR Bot	 Queens Public Library says ransomware attack disrupted Wi-Fi, on-site computers | The Record from Recorded Future News
[08:44]	TR News	"The video is a profound misreading of the political and cultural moment." https://www.404media.co/republicans-learn-x-is-an-echo-chamber/ | Source: 404 Media
[08:44]	TR Bot	 Republicans Learn X Is the Echo Chamber
[08:44]	TR News	"The tech firms also assert that the soon to be implemented law ignores legal protections blocking platforms from being held liable for user content." https://therecord.media/social-media-giants-sue-california-over-social-media-law | Source: The Record
[08:44]	TR Bot	 Social media giants sue California to overturn law shielding kids 15 and under from compulsive use | The Record from Recorded Future News
[08:45]	TR News	"Google, Meta and TikTok on Thursday sued to block a new California law that restricts social media companies from offering features to children that could be addictive." https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/05/technology/social-media-child-safety-california.html | Source: New York Times
[08:45]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/05/technology/social-media-child-safety-california.html )
[08:45]	TR News	 (NEW):  I tried LordOS expecting another MacOS clone then I opened its network monitor https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/I_tried_LordOS_expecting_another_MacOS_clone_then_I_opened_its_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/I_tried_LordOS_expecting_another_MacOS_clone_then_I_opened_its_.gmi 
[08:45]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines I tried LordOS expecting another MacOS clone then I opened its network monitor
[08:45]	TR News	"The money incinerator is just getting up to speed." https://boingboing.net/2026/11/03/anthropic-895-billion-compute-commitments.html | Source: BoingBoing
[08:45]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://boingboing.net/2026/11/03/anthropic-895-billion-compute-commitments.html )
[08:46]	TR News	"The changes mean a large swath of index funds which millions of Americans own in their retirement funds" https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/05/technology/spacex-indexes-401k.html | Source: New York Times
[08:46]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/05/technology/spacex-indexes-401k.html )
[08:46]	TR News	"It can mean that Elon Musk and the NASDAQ have colluded to force ordinary retirement savers to bail out his emirati and tech oligarch buddies: [...]" https://pluralistic.net/2026/11/04/genius-scan-is-neither/#x-marked-the-spot | Source: CoryDoctorow
[08:46]	TR Bot	 Pluralistic: The AI fatfinger economy has come for my receipts app (04 Nov 2026) Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
[08:46]	TR News	"In this imaginary room, Ive been busy, and started hacking away on what will eventually become iocaine 4.0, and today, Im here to share the progress Ive made so far" https://chronicles.mad-scientist.club/tales/remember-remember/ | Source: Gergely Nagy
[08:46]	TR Bot	 Country," concluded the Director. "But simultaneously we condition them to.
[08:51]	TR News	"As useful as AI may be, concentrating resources in the hands of a handful of companies now thats always pretty terrible for society as a whole." https://manualdousuario.net/en/memory-crises-bloated-software/ | Source: Rodrigo Ghedin
[08:51]	TR Bot	 8 GB ought to be enough for anybody Manual do Usurio
[08:52]	TR News	"All she wanted was help from ChatGPT with her proposal, but soil hydrology researcher Ying Zhao got a lot more than she bargained for." https://www.pcworld.com/article/3276905/my-ai-agents-sent-emails-without-my-ok-this-simple-prompt-stops-it.html | Source: PC World
[08:52]	TR Bot	AI agents sent emails without my OK. This simple prompt stops it | PCWorld
[08:52]	TR News	"imminent danger" https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/05/technology/ai-safety-school-chromebooks-google-lawsuit.html | Source: New York Times
[08:52]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/05/technology/ai-safety-school-chromebooks-google-lawsuit.html )
[08:52]	TR News	"Hollywoods L.A. footprint keeps shrinking amid mergers, layoffs, AI and productions leaving the state." https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2026-11-05/la-film-students-bet-on-shrinking-hollywood | Source: Los Angeles Times
[08:52]	TR Bot	 LA film students are eager to pick up Hollywood's pieces - Los Angeles Times
[08:52]	TR News	"In a detailed report on its investigation published Tuesday" https://futurism.com/future-society/binance-heist-vibe-code-ai | Source: Futurism
[08:52]	TR Bot	 It Turns Out Binance's $6 Billion Hack Happened Because Its Employees Were Vibe Coding
[08:55]	TR News	Techrights Our Third Decade https://techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Our_Third_Decade.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Our_Third_Decade.gmi 
[08:55]	TR Bot	 Techrights Our Third Decade
[08:56]	DarwinElf	these days I spend almost as much time fighting 'portable-first WWW' that won't use 'viewports' as much as using my PC for any other category, like actually using WWW, or using Usenet, IRC, doing CS, chatting about how to do things including get 'portable-first' pages not small-'viewport'/broken/blank (not talking about zoom) with every new release of Chromium-based or after most of several daily Chromium-based crashes
[08:58]	TR News	 (NEW):   : Google Android Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Android_Leftovers.gmi 
[08:58]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
● Nov 06
[09:04]	TR News	"I dont think thats true anymore." https://www.pcworld.com/article/3275869/windows-is-no-longer-the-center-of-the-pc-universe.html | Source: PC World
[09:04]	TR Bot	is no longer the center of the PC universe | PCWorld
[09:05]	TR News	"Working with language, like reading or writing books, seems to be particularly worthwhile for the aging brain." https://www.sciencealert.com/at-91-julie-andrews-swears-by-one-habit-linked-to-18-lower-dementia-risk | Source: Science Alert
[09:05]	TR Bot	91, Julie Andrews Swears by One Habit Linked to 18% Lower Dementia Risk : ScienceAlert
[09:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	DarwinElf: use css-free
[09:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	some sites tender ok without csss
[09:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	and give you more control
[09:06]	DarwinElf	what's css-free?
[09:07]	DarwinElf	it sounds ideal.  Years/decades after it became popular it started to sound neat enough that I even us a little on my own sites (not margins anymore)
[09:07]	DarwinElf	now CSS generally seems overdone and a nuisance like I originally judged
[09:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	you can make your own css
[09:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	and impose it on the sites
[09:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	that's how gemini protocol works
[09:10]	schestowitz[TR2]	the presentation is controlled by the visitor
[09:11]	TR News	"Extending this a bit further, there are a few modes you can have with your visual system when playing piano." https://benjamincongdon.me/blog/2026/11/04/Sometimes-Look-at-the-Keys/ | Source: Ben Congdon
[09:11]	TR Bot	 Sometimes, Look at the Keys | Ben Congdon
[09:11]	TR News	"Having a wide range of objects in the basement is something I find useful on a regular basis." https://www.jefftk.com/p/useful-junk | Source: Jeff Kaufman
[09:11]	TR Bot	 Useful Junk
[09:11]	TR News	"We had SBC shortages before, but 2026 has beat them all, and it doesnt look like itll stop within even a few months." https://hackaday.com/2026/11/05/i-think-we-should-see-other-sbcs/ | Source: Hackaday
[09:11]	TR Bot	Think We Should See Other SBCs | Hackaday
[09:12]	DarwinElf	sometimes I like to see how the sites design it, but some I use might not work well with that.  More tend to want to force it basically like digital restrictions management (DRM) right?
[09:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	maybe not by intentiob
[09:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	*ion
[09:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	they just make wrong assumptions
[09:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	i have an ongoing dipsute over this:
[09:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2026/10/23/manchester-city-council-customer-service-issues-part-i-denying-access-to-browsers-that-arent-gafam-or-chrom-based/
[09:13]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Manchester City Council Customer Service Issues Part I Denying Access to Browsers That Arent GAFAM or Chrom*-based
[09:14]	TR News	"Our work giving people leisure reading options has been relegated into the shadows of the academic realm for years." https://raforall.blogspot.com/2026/11/library-trends-752-rethinking-readers.html | Source: Becky Spratford
[09:14]	TR Bot	 RA for All: Library Trends 75(2) "Rethinking Readers Advisory for Todays Reading Reality," Guest Edited by Robin Bradford and Me is Now Available for Free
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[09:19]	TR News	"On October 23, 2026, the unthinkable happened. It was supposed to be a mere formality: C++26 was up for a vote by the ISO National Bodies (NBs)." https://andreasfertig.com/blog/2026/11/cpp26-dis-failed-how-does-cpp-survive/ | Source: Andreas Fertig
[09:19]	TR Bot	 C++26 DIS failed, how does C++ survive? - Andreas Fertig's Blog
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[09:20]	TR News	Techrights Links 06/11/2026: Slop "Companies Race to Lock Down Oil Clients" and Salon Shuts Down https://techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Links_06_11_2026_Slop_Companies_Race_to_Lock_Down_Oil_Clients_a.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Links_06_11_2026_Slop_Companies_Race_to_Lock_Down_Oil_Clients_a.gmi 
[09:20]	TR Bot	 Techrights Links 06/11/2026: Slop "Companies Race to Lock Down Oil Clients" and Salon Shuts Down
[09:22]	TR News	"The butcher package from the tidymodels ecosystem removes these components while keeping the model usable for prediction." https://mlr-org.com/gallery/technical/2026-11-05-butcher/ |
[09:22]	TR Bot	stored models with butcher mlr-org
[09:22]	TR News	"Yes, the control flow should be improved and we'll harden auth-passwd.c against crypt() implementations that do the wrong thing." https://lists.mindrot.org/pipermail/openssh-unix-dev/2026-November/042842.html | Source: OpenSSH
[09:22]	TR Bot	 urgent security release: 10.6p2
[09:23]	TR News	Techrights today: Puppy Breaker silent for 2 days. Minutes later: he sees the article, publishes a few words, very wrong grammar (drunk? stroke?).
[09:24]	TR News	"The new terms were initially set to go into effect on October 30" https://www.404media.co/meta-generative-ai-commercial-terms-on-pause/ | Source: 404 Media
[09:24]	TR Bot	 Everyone Everywhere Hated Metas New AI Training Terms. Now, Theyre On Pause
[09:25]	TR News	"Heres a chunk from the caching chapter of OpenZFS Mastery." https://mwl.io/archives/25044 | Source: MWL
[09:25]	TR Bot	 136: sshd and Emacs Michael W Lucas
[09:26]	TR News	[Old] "The videos in this collection are from ShmooCon 2025, which occurred on 10 - 12 January 2025, at the Washington Hilton Hotel. - For more information about ShmooCon please visit https://www.shmoocon.org." https://archive.org/details/shmoocon2025 | Source: Internet Archive
[09:26]	TR Bot	( status 500 @ https://www.shmoocon.org )
[09:26]	TR Bot	 ShmooCon 2025 : ShmooCon : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
[09:27]	TR News	[Old] "The final ShmooCon was held this past weekend (Jan. 10-12) in Washington, D.C., capping 20 years of the East Coast's leading hacker conference." https://www.scworld.com/perspective/shmoocon-ends-20-year-run-with-tears-malware-and-electronic-fun |
[09:27]	TR Bot	 ShmooCon ends 20-year run with tears, malware and electronic fun | perspective | SC Media
[09:27]	TR News	[Old] "The high level of success and appreciation that ShmooCon has garnered makes news of its final event next year even more surprising," https://www.csoonline.com/article/1291036/shmoocon-to-take-its-final-bow-in-2025.html | Source: CSO
[09:28]	TR Bot	 ShmooCon to take its final bow in 2025 | CSO Online
[09:30]	TR News	"So lets dig into precisely why DBAs secretly dread large text-based columns, shall we?" https://www.pgedge.com/blog/burnt-toast | Source: pgEdge Inc
[09:30]	TR Bot	 PG Phriday: Burnt TOAST
[09:30]	TR News	"Whats so bad about global variables? Heres the two main1 reasons, in my view: [...]" https://www.seangoedecke.com/a-database-is-a-store-for-global-variables/ | Source: Sean Goedecke
[09:30]	TR Bot	 A database is a store for global variables
[09:30]	TR News	"Though few in number, those vulnerable included all sorts of agencies representing US towns, cities, counties, regulatory boards, and more." https://www.darkreading.com/cybersecurity-operations/us-government-email-systems-abuse-typos | Source: Dark Reading
[09:30]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.darkreading.com/cybersecurity-operations/us-government-email-systems-abuse-typos )
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[09:42]	TR News	 (NEW):  We Can Reach 31 Years and Longer https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/We_Can_Reach_31_Years_and_Longer.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/We_Can_Reach_31_Years_and_Longer.gmi 
[09:42]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines We Can Reach 31 Years and Longer
[09:51]	TR News	Finding New Whistleblowers https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2026/11/06/finding-new-whistleblowers/
[09:51]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Finding New Whistleblowers
[09:51]	TR News	"But when macOS is in dark mode, then Safari will only respect dark websites. Light-colored websites will not get a light tab bar: [...]" https://www.loopwerk.io/articles/2026/safari-colors/ | Source: Kevin Renskers
[09:51]	TR Bot	 Loopwerk: Safaris tab bar has a dark mode bias
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[09:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	psydruid: ping
[09:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	remember when we collaborated on intel leaks
[09:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	look what intel has become since
[09:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	smaller than amd 
[09:52]	TR News	"While Ive seen numerous posts and videos over the years about the ability to edit at the speed of thought with vim, I have really never seen that take on (default) emacs." https://joshblais.com/blog/editing-at-the-speed-of-thought-in-emacs/ | Source: Joshua Blais
[09:52]	TR Bot	 Editing at the speed of thought in emacs - The Universe of Joshua Blais
[09:52]	TR News	"The letter H is a bit thin compared to previous letters, but htop was an easy winner." https://www.rubenerd.au/my-az-toolbox-h/ | Source: Ruben Schade
[09:52]	TR Bot	 Rubenerd: My AZ toolbox: htop
[09:53]	TR News	"Even if this release is caused by issues that do not affect OpenBSD systems, please help spread the word to those who run systems where the issue exists." https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20261105104042 | Source: Undeadly
[09:53]	TR Bot	 OpenSSH 10.6p2 released
[09:54]	TR News	"[AncientJames] gives us a detailed look at Vortex, one of his impressive volumetric displays made with two back-to-back LED panels that spin at high speed with a Raspberry Pi 4 driving it all." https://hackaday.com/2026/11/05/stunning-volumetric-3d-display-goes-for-a-spin/ | Source: Hackaday
[09:54]	TR Bot	Volumetric 3D Display Goes For A Spin | Hackaday
[09:54]	TR News	"The display comes as part of a Samsung cash register that looks as though it comes from the 1990s, which is in keeping with it having a monochrome STN display." https://hackaday.com/2026/11/05/translating-an-old-display-to-a-new-one/ | Source: Hackaday
[09:54]	TR Bot	An Old Display To A New One | Hackaday
[09:54]	TR News	"As microntrollers have become ever more powerful, we have started to see an increasing number of operating systems written to take advantage of this extra power." https://hackaday.com/2026/11/05/a-tiny-os-for-a-tiny-board/ | Source: Hackaday
[09:54]	TR Bot	Tiny OS For A Tiny Board | Hackaday
[09:55]	TR News	"In comments on my entry on how the Rust coreutils are sticky on Ubuntu 26.04, Aristotle Pagaltzis asked (more or less) if I thought people should sit out Ubuntu 26.04 or use it" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/UbuntuMy2604Views | Source: University of Toronto
[09:55]	TR Bot	 You're using a too-old browser
[09:56]	TR News	GNU/Linux 6.3% in Oman https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/oman/#monthly-200902-202611
[09:56]	TR Bot	 Desktop Operating System Market Share Oman | Statcounter Global Stats
[09:57]	TR News	5.2% says Clownflare https://radar.cloudflare.com/explorer?dataSet=http&groupBy=os&loc=OM&filters=deviceType%253DDESKTOP&dateRange=28d
[09:57]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://radar.cloudflare.com/explorer?dataSet=http&groupBy=os&loc=OM&filters=deviceType%253DDESKTOP&dateRange=28d )
[09:58]	TR News	A year ago it was just 2-3% https://radar.cloudflare.com/explorer?dataSet=http&groupBy=os&loc=OM&filters=deviceType%253DDESKTOP&dateRange=52w
[09:58]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://radar.cloudflare.com/explorer?dataSet=http&groupBy=os&loc=OM&filters=deviceType%253DDESKTOP&dateRange=52w )
● Nov 06
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[10:25]	TR News	 (NEW):  GNU/Linux Market Share Considerably Higher in Yemen This Year https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/GNU_Linux_Market_Share_Considerably_Higher_in_Yemen_This_Year.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/GNU_Linux_Market_Share_Considerably_Higher_in_Yemen_This_Year.gmi 
[10:25]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines GNU/Linux Market Share Considerably Higher in Yemen This Year
[10:27]	TR News	"The Artix development team has updated Artix Linux to stable version 20261102. Artix Linux is a set of Arch-based, systemd-free distributions with a choice of Cinnamon, KDE Plasma, LXDE, LXQt, MATE" https://distrowatch.com/?newsid=13027 | Source: Distro Watch
[10:27]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/?newsid=13027 )
[10:28]	TR News	"Enterprise systems can stay in production far longer than a FreeBSD release remains supported. Learn what happens when those timelines don't match, why forced upgrades create operational risk" https://klarasystems.com/articles/why-enterprise-freebsd-deployments-need-long-term-support/ | Source: Klara
[10:28]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://klarasystems.com/articles/why-enterprise-freebsd-deployments-need-long-term-support/ )
[10:28]	TR News	"Every host in the basement fetches packages: base from pkg.FreeBSD.org and everything else from my own poudriere repo on fedex. The proxy now sits between them and those repos." https://dan.langille.org/2026/11/04/ports-mgmt-git-proxy-caching-proxy-for-package-registries-including-freebsd-pkg/ | Source: Dan Langille
[10:28]	TR Bot	 ports-mgmt/git-proxy caching proxy for package registries, including FreeBSD pkg Dan Langille's Other Diary
[10:30]	TR News	"Given I talk about Alpine being my Linux server distro of choice, I feel it important to relay this: [...]" https://www.rubenerd.au/update-your-alpine-linux-openssh-now/ | Source: Ruben Schade
[10:30]	TR Bot	 Rubenerd: Update your Alpine Linux OpenSSH NOW
[10:31]	TR News	"Spread across the 948 exploits, the $1,213,430 bill comes to roughly $1,279 apiece. An earlier scan in late July, powered by GPT-5.6 Sol, yielded 166 unique LPEs at a cost of $513,690." https://www.securityweek.com/ai-agents-got-root-on-linux-via-948-kernel-flaws-in-openai-research/ | Source: Security Week
[10:31]	TR Bot	Agents Got Root on Linux via 948 Kernel Flaws in OpenAI Research - SecurityWeek
[10:31]	TR News	"OpenBSD 8.0, vmd(8), WebZFS has reached BETA3, HardenedBSD updates and more..." https://www.bsdnow.tv/688 | Source: The BSD Now Podcast
[10:31]	TR Bot	 BSD Now 688: Eighty
[10:32]	TR News	"The internet is still reeling from the PHP engine vulnerability" https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/cyber-security/combined-flaws-let-anyone-into-alpine-linux-and-other-distros-by-typing-anything-over-256-characters-as-a-password-emergency-fixes-for-openssh-and-musl-libc-issued-for-millions-of-systems-patch-immediately | Source: Tom's Hardware
[10:32]	TR Bot	 Combined flaws let anyone into Alpine Linux and other distros by typing anything over 256 characters as a password emergency fixes for OpenSSH and musl-libc issued for millions of systems, patch immediately | Tom's Hardware
[10:33]	TR News	A new GOG Galaxy is coming in 2027 with full Linux support | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/11/a-new-gog-galaxy-is-coming-in-2027-with-full-linux-support/ Source: GamingOnLinux
[10:33]	TR Bot	new GOG Galaxy is coming in 2027 with full Linux support | GamingOnLinux
[10:36]	TR News	"If you are talking about Spain, Ill say it publicly: that frokkin manager has to go. There is absolutely no excuse for him being in the call with the customer for an hour, promise to get something done in a week then just leave for a months vacation the next day. Why didnt he disclose he was going on vacation?"
[10:36]	TR News	"The entitlement of them Europeans is beyond anything we are used to. Trust me when I say the fatigue is real." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m6p5hkm8#replies
[10:36]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m6p5hkm8#replies )
[10:36]	TR News	"They're running out of Americans to fire. They are the easiest to fire due to differing labor protection laws. That's my guess." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m6p5hkm8#replies
[10:37]	TR News	"Im pretty sure that this week is PIP week. Also IBM doesnt announce RAs. They dont need more negative media attention." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m6q6j35q
[10:37]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m6q6j35q )
[10:37]	TR News	"We get it, you read the subreddit. So do we, and we're all perfectly capable of browsing reddit ourselves."
[10:37]	TR News	"So, could you please stop spamming this board with links to every single reddit thread? There's no need to turn this place into a live reddit rss feed. If something is genuinely worth discussing, by all means, share your take, summarize the interesting bits, or bring something new to the convo."
[10:38]	TR News	In IBM: "For the past year Ive noticed in Infra - people being asked to work on two roles simultaneously - support / TAM / DM - One person doing two jobs is perfect for them." https://www.reddit.com/r/IBM_Employees/comments/1xoxfrl/ra_announced_today/?share_id=XdwQaUpWuCxgxtS4yRH0q&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1&sort=new
[10:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reddit
[10:39]	TR News	"They are going to hire actual Indians..." (AI) https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2026/11/05/20266/?_gl=1*bqlz5a*_ga*MTc5ODEyOTIzNy4xNzc4MDgyODU0*_ga_JXW44Y23NM*czE3OTM5NjE1NzEkbzU3MCRnMCR0MTc5Mzk2MTU3MSRqNjAkbDAkaDA.
[10:39]	TR Bot	 Royal London plans IT outsourcing shake-up as staff brace for redundancies The Register Forums
[10:40]	TR News	"And M&S and the Co-Op found out what happens when you out source your IT to an Indian based MSP."
[10:41]	TR News	"Are IBM getting back into the technology outsourcing game - or will they be subbing to an associated company such as Kyndryl ?
[10:41]	TR News	"Actually, I thought that Royal London had been here before ... I have a vague recollection of being offered an Account Architect role at Royal London near Wilmslow when I was with IBM GTS Strategic Outsourcing back in 2014 - but it might have been contingent on IBM winning a contract bid."
[10:41]	TR News	"IBM used the Kyndryl spin-off to get rid of a litany of bad contracts that they believed were dragging down profit margins. Now they are realising there is still money to be made in managed services - the question is, are IBM going to fall back on the old practice of low-balling the bid and end up in the same mess they were in before."
[10:42]	TR News	"Then IBM will the save more money by replacing the Indians with AI Agents what can go wrong !"
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[10:52]	xwindows	Hey, I have just viewed Techrights today's Gemini/small-Internet links round-up page;
[10:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	gm
[10:53]		*xwindows tips his hat.
[10:53]	xwindows	...and I got interested in the "Where has the electronics shop gone?" article linked there.
[10:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	yes
[10:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	did you use a gemini client?
[10:54]	TR News	Techrights Outsourcing at IBM https://techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Outsourcing_at_IBM.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Outsourcing_at_IBM.gmi 
[10:54]	TR Bot	 Techrights Outsourcing at IBM
[10:55]	xwindows	^ Which starting to become be relatable, as I see the local radiotechnics district --while still exists-- get smaller and smaller.
[10:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	some people "go online"
[10:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	maplin died ages ago
[10:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	i think rc components is till around
[10:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	i used to work for them
[10:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	my wife also
[10:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	squid and server stuff
[10:56]	xwindows	schestowitz[TR2]: "did you use a gemini client?", no; I just changed the "gemini://" to "http://".
[10:56]	TR Bot	rejected: Bad hostname ( status 0 @ http://" )
[10:56]	xwindows	But I'm here rather to report problem with that article.
[10:57]	xwindows	Because once I read to the end, I found that the placing of "In a nutshell" section out-of-place very-forced;
[10:58]	xwindows	it's almost like ChatGPT's "Conclusion"-ism.
[10:58]	xwindows	So I decided to log in to my Pangram.com account; and pasted the last two section in.
[10:59]	xwindows	Their prose-laundering detector flaged that as prose-laundered:
[10:59]	xwindows	https://u.cubeupload.com/xwindows/PicVRt.png
[10:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	checking
● Nov 06
[11:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	gemini://schreibfaultier.pollux.casa/blog/2026-11-05-where-has-the-electronics-shop-gone.en.gmi
[11:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	i am not sure
[11:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	the headlines are ***gpt-like
[11:00]	xwindows	I tried paragraphs the site's about page, as well as 2 last sections of http://schreibfaultier.pollux.casa/blog/2026-10-30-solar-minibbs-part-2-administration.en.gmi ;
[11:00]	TR Bot	 Solar MiniBBS - Part 2
[11:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	not "in a  nutshell"
[11:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	i did not notice slop in pollux.casa before
[11:00]	xwindows	...and Pangram.com flaged all-100% fabricaed.
[11:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	"I can only speculate as to why Germany, "
[11:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	First person
[11:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	first person is rare in slop
[11:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	unless you edit it
[11:01]	xwindows	"not "in a  nutshell"", http://schreibfaultier.pollux.casa/blog/2026-11-05-where-has-the-electronics-shop-gone.en.gmi
[11:01]	TR Bot	 Where has the electronics shop gone?
[11:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	"I dont currently see any chain in Germany thats moving in the direction of Micro Center. H
[11:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	I'm leaning towarsd fase lpos.
[11:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	I'm leaning towarsd fasle pos.
[11:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	"The UK had its own RadioShack: Maplin. The chain most recently operated more than 200 shops selling components, tools and consumer electronics. In February 2018, Maplin went into administration, and all its shops closed in June. The brand has been back in business since 2019, though only as an online shop."
[11:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	that part reads like a person
[11:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	who knows the uk market
[11:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	not much prose and adjectives
[11:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	or shopping list of words
[11:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	focuses on three place:" spain, gemrny, uk
[11:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	so it is believable the author knows all 3
[11:03]	xwindows	Maybe the person actually written in German and passed it through prose-launderer to transpose it to English?
[11:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	gemini://schreibfaultier.pollux.casa/blog/index.en.gmi
[11:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	"In this gemlog, I document the transformation of the internet, dig for buried communities, and observe how authentic exchange is drowning in a flood of AI slop, bots, and commercial garbage."
[11:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	he openly complains
[11:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	about slop
[11:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	" authentic exchange is drowning in a flood of AI slop, bots
[11:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	gemini://schreibfaultier.pollux.casa/blog/2026-08-27-ai-digital-resistance.en.gmi
[11:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	"AI companies are laying off thousands of employees while promising a better future with less work. This article traces how the 2026 layoff wave, broken trust and digital resistance fit a pattern already seen with Keynes' 15 hour work week and the computer era, and asks where this cycle is actually heading this time."
[11:04]	xwindows	...(While Pangram flagged English about page as 100% prose-laundered, the German version shown 20%/mostly-human)
[11:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	gemini://schreibfaultier.pollux.casa/blog/2026-08-27-ki-digitaler-widerstand.de.gmi
[11:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	"Auf Deutsch lesen"
[11:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	yes, maybe automated translation
[11:05]		*xwindows re-tests the 2 last paragraphs from German version...
[11:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	gemini://schreibfaultier.pollux.casa/blog/2026-08-27-ki-digitaler-widerstand.de.gmi has a similar structure
[11:05]	schestowitz[TR2]	maybe writes in german
[11:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	then uses some program to help write the same in english
[11:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	:"In diesem Gemlog dokumentiere ich den Wandel des Internets, grabe nach verschtteten Communities und beobachte, wie authentischer Austausch in der Flut aus AI-Slop, Bots und kommerziellem Mll ertrinkt."
[11:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	gemini://schreibfaultier.pollux.casa/blog/index.de.gmi
[11:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	"wie authentischer Austausch in der Flut aus AI-Slop, Bots und kommerziellem Mll ertrinkt."
[11:06]	schestowitz[TR2]	all the articles are in german and english
[11:07]	xwindows	...Reported as mixed. Green for for second last section; "TLDR" section (that corresponds to "In a nutshell" section in English version) reported as laundered.
[11:08]		*xwindows re-checks other parts of the article...
[11:09]	TR News	Fanatical Platinum Collection (November 2026) game bundle is live with some treats | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/11/fanatical-platinum-collection-november-2026-game-bundle-is-live-with-some-treats/ Source: GamingOnLinux
[11:09]	TR Bot	Platinum Collection (November 2026) game bundle is live with some treats | GamingOnLinux
[11:09]	TR News	Debian, Ubuntu and derivatives hit by APT flaw that could give attackers root access | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/11/debian-ubuntu-and-derivatives-hit-by-apt-flaw-that-could-give-attackers-root-access/ Source: GamingOnLinux
[11:09]	TR Bot	Ubuntu and derivatives hit by APT flaw that could give attackers root access | GamingOnLinux
[11:10]	xwindows	I checked the first 3 sections of the article I originally linked, but German version; Pangram flagged it as prose-laundered.
[11:12]	TR News	Tripwire Presents expands publishing to focus on support of smaller indie teams | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/11/tripwire-presents-expands-publishing-to-focus-on-support-of-smaller-indie-teams/ Source: GamingOnLinux
[11:12]	TR Bot	Presents expands publishing to focus on support of smaller indie teams | GamingOnLinux
[11:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	can you define "prose-laundere"?
[11:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	is "prose-laundered" when you enter some text and it gets 'enhanced'?
[11:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	i never saw this term before
[11:13]	xwindows	... https://u.cubeupload.com/xwindows/8sqO5I.png
[11:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	100%
[11:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	so maybe it's a BS site
[11:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	bilingual BS
[11:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	but
[11:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's odd
[11:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	see the first sentence
[11:13]	schestowitz[TR2]	in the front page
[11:14]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's a rant against slop
[11:14]	xwindows	...(I could only checked the 3 first sections; my free quota of today run out now)
[11:15]	xwindows	"it's a rant against slop", yeah; I have seen that other day, someone prompted ChatGPT to prose-launder some "small Internet wanking" (in their word) article; and it would do that too.
[11:16]	xwindows	So I think it is possible that some prose-launderer would add anti-prose-laundering
[11:17]	xwindows	... statements to their fabricated site, just to make people not careful and become lenient in checking.
[11:17]	xwindows	ParrotBBS is another place like that.
[11:18]	xwindows	But that one is not explicitly saying things that implied anti-prose-laundering stance; just small-Internet[-adjcent] slop.
[11:19]	xwindows	For "prose-laundered", I mean the thing that unwashed mass'd say "AI-generating";
[11:19]	xwindows	without using the acronym "AI" that I disagree.
[11:21]	xwindows	Since these machines effectively strip attribution and mixed together words just enough to obscure where each of the came from?
[11:21]	xwindows	Sound familiar?
[11:21]	xwindows	Because that's what money-laundering criminial does, with money.
[11:22]	xwindows	So instead of misattibuting any ounce of "intelligence" to such machine by uttering the acronym "AI";
[11:23]	xwindows	I'm basically saying that people so use such machines are committing prose-laundering crime.
[11:23]	xwindows	^ And they are prose-launderer criminals, using prose-laundering machines as implement doing their crimes.
[11:24]	xwindows	So as art-laundering ("AI" image), film-laundering ("AI" video clips), and code-laundering ("vibe"-codes).
[11:25]	TR News	s/Salon is practically dead/Salon is dead/
[11:25]	TR News	Pillars of Eternity and Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire get major updates with controller support in Beta | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/11/pillars-of-eternity-and-pillars-of-eternity-ii-deadfire-get-major-updates-with-controller-support-in-beta/ Source: GamingOnLinux
[11:25]	TR Bot	of Eternity and Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire get major updates with controller support in Beta | GamingOnLinux
[11:26]	xwindows	I came up with these terms; but it's's not a term[s] used widely, and I don't really go out of my way to "promote" it.
[11:27]	xwindows	But these terms (both in English, and translated to Thai) are what I actually personally use when speaking of such crime and their "products".
[11:28]	xwindows	^ Another term I used along with these is "serial-plagiarist".
[11:29]	xwindows	^^ Which I got inspired by Richard Stallman's recommendation to call J. Epstien a "serial rapist".
[11:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	i use the term
[11:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	or serial slopper
[11:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	which maybe we coined
[11:30]	xwindows	Yeah, you're using "serial slopper" on Techrights, I remember.
[11:38]	xwindows	Anyway, I'm just dropping by here to just give a heads up, that maybe you might want to consider avoid linking to that Gemini capsule in the future.
[11:39]		*xwindows Off to other things
[11:41]	TR News	Techrights Intercontinental Brigading - Part XXXXI - What I Told British Police About Lozza the Same Month Garrett Was Preparing His First Nastygram From 'Hired Guns' Brett Wilson LLP https://techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Intercontinental_Brigading_Part_XXXXI_What_I_Told_British_Polic.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Intercontinental_Brigading_Part_XXXXI_What_I_Told_British_Polic.gmi 
[11:41]	TR Bot	 Techrights Intercontinental Brigading - Part XXXXI - What I Told British Police About Lozza the Same Month Garrett Was Preparing His First Nastygram From 'Hired Guns' Brett Wilson LLP
[11:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	xwindows: ta ra
[11:51]	TR News	Build a safari park, clone animals, then watch it go wrong in Captain Contraption's Safari Park | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/11/build-a-safari-park-clone-animals-then-watch-it-go-wrong-in-captain-contraptions-safari-park/ Source: GamingOnLinux
[11:51]	TR Bot	a safari park, clone animals, then watch it go wrong in Captain Contraption's Safari Park | GamingOnLinux
[11:55]	TR News	UK moving towards banning chat in games for under 16s | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/11/uk-moving-towards-banning-chat-in-games-for-under-16s/ Source: GamingOnLinux
[11:55]	TR Bot	moving towards banning chat in games for under 16s | GamingOnLinux
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[12:04]	TR News	The LEGO-like co-op pirate roguelite Sink My Bricks! looks like chaotic fun | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/11/the-lego-like-co-op-pirate-roguelite-sink-my-bricks-looks-like-chaotic-fun/ Source: GamingOnLinux
[12:04]	TR Bot	LEGO-like co-op pirate roguelite Sink My Bricks! looks like chaotic fun | GamingOnLinux
[12:04]	TR News	I Wanna Be a Supernova is a sweet upcoming casual incremental about devouring celestial bodies | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/11/i-wanna-be-a-supernova-is-a-sweet-upcoming-casual-incremental-about-devouring-celestial-bodies/ Source: GamingOnLinux
[12:04]	TR Bot	Wanna Be a Supernova is a sweet upcoming casual incremental about devouring celestial bodies | GamingOnLinux
[12:14]	TR News	Another SLAPP: "Russian billionaire Vitaly Orlov lawsuit against the Barents Observer is absurd and dirty" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2026/11/06/another-slapp-russian-billionaire-vitaly-orlovs-lawsuit-against-the-barents-observer-is-absurd-and-dirty/
[12:14]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Another SLAPP: Russian billionaire Vitaly Orlov lawsuit against the Barents Observer is absurd and dirty
[12:16]	TR News	Techrights Vitaly Orlov Weaponises Deep Pockets to Leverage High Court of Justice in London for Censorship and Punishment of Critics https://techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Vitaly_Orlov_Weaponises_Deep_Pockets_to_Leverage_High_Court_of_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Vitaly_Orlov_Weaponises_Deep_Pockets_to_Leverage_High_Court_of_.gmi 
[12:16]	TR Bot	 Techrights Vitaly Orlov Weaponises Deep Pockets to Leverage High Court of Justice in London for Censorship and Punishment of Critics
[12:25]	TR News	Transnational Swatting https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2026/11/06/transnational-swatting/
[12:25]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Transnational Swatting
[12:25]	TR News	Older: Legal Self-Sufficiency http://techrights.org/n/2026/10/13/Legal_Self_Sufficiency.shtml
[12:25]	TR Bot	 Techrights Legal Self-Sufficiency
[12:27]	TR News	 (NEW):  Games: Fanatical Platinum Collection, I Wanna Be a Supernova, and More https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Games_Fanatical_Platinum_Collection_I_Wanna_Be_a_Supernova_and_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Games_Fanatical_Platinum_Collection_I_Wanna_Be_a_Supernova_and_.gmi 
[12:27]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Games: Fanatical Platinum Collection, I Wanna Be a Supernova, and More
[12:28]		*psydruid got summoned by doesn't know by whom
[12:28]	psydruid	but*
[12:30]	bms	RUNNIN' AROUND ROBBIN' BANKS ALL WHACKED OFFA SCOOBY SNAX /o~
[12:30]	bms	Anthropic make only just more in bank interest on their VC and investor cap than opex for the Claude stuff
[12:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	"Claude" religion
[12:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	the religion of plagiarism
[12:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	hailed as a person
[12:30]	schestowitz[TR2]	called "Claude"
[12:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	the metopher helps them get away with crimes
[12:31]	bms	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEMjF2n3-SQ
[12:31]	TR Bot	https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=HEMjF2n3-SQ
[12:31]	TR Bot	( status 418 @ https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=HEMjF2n3-SQ )
[12:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	andy covered that in:"
[12:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://cybershow.uk/content/blog/ipharms/ipharms.html
[12:31]	TR Bot	 Why I'm Not Suing Anthropic
[12:31]	bms	1996: Fun Lovin' Criminals - Scooby Snacks (Official Music Video) (with tons of Quentin Tarantino samples_
[12:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	call it "
[12:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	training"
[12:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	or "hey hi"
[12:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	then plagiarism is "OK"
[12:31]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's even INNOVA~12
[12:31]	bms	don't forget to drink the Effective Altruist koolaid /s
[12:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	bms: thank you for your thesius
[12:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	may i copy it as "trainijng set"?
[12:32]	bms	Oh that? Well my PhD is kind of embarassing actually
[12:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	does not matter
[12:32]	bms	I read Padlipsky on how the ARPANET was built
[12:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	the slop is also bad
[12:32]	bms	found myself disavowing a lot of it
[12:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	can't be any better than your thesis
[12:32]	bms	ok so I was reading David Chisnall
[12:33]	bms	he inspired me to raise an objection with my university
[12:33]	bms	they treated it as an FOI, they host the thesis repository at ed.ac.uk
[12:33]	bms	TL;DR "we are aware of the problem and are doign something but we can't tell you what for security reasons" (LLM scraping of research repository)
[12:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	oh, that
[12:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	read andy
[12:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://cybershow.uk/content/blog/ipharms/ipharms.html
[12:34]	bms	I actually got personally attacked over this
[12:34]	bms	but it seems to have been in private
[12:34]	bms	I issued a Cease and Desist
[12:34]	bms	the person involved came after a member of my family
[12:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	asking questions leads to private attacks
[12:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	join the club
[12:35]	bms	they tried to impute falsely that I had a psychiatric disorder
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	maybe projecting
[12:35]	bms	totally factitious of course and I Don't think this leaked anywhere
[12:35]	bms	oh yes
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	that's the dunniest thing
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	take Garret for example
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	here in IRC
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	where he was banned
[12:35]	bms	it turns out said family member is now a diagnosable malignant narcissist
[12:35]	bms	full blown NPD disorder
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	he said he had visited psych
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	for professional help
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	years later I get death threats 
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	from a burner account
[12:35]	bms	at least, the difficulty it poses is: that person will never admit they are the one with the actual disorder
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	suggesting that ME - as in I - is the mental disorder thing
[12:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	that's pure projection
[12:36]	bms	yeah it is and was in my case 
[12:36]	bms	it can be shown to be thus and it turned out that person was lying quite a bit
[12:36]	bms	as well as confabulating, taking stuff out of context, selective omission of facts in their account
[12:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	it makes them, feel better
[12:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	accusing rveryone of what they are
[12:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	so they feel more "normal"
[12:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	apropos Garret
[12:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	he told the state
[12:36]	bms	yes it's a common tactic in fascism in the political arena
[12:36]	schestowitz[TR2]	the spouse has alcohol problems
[12:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	that is actually HIM
[12:37]	bms	Hitler and Heimmler did it for example
[12:37]	bms	yup
[12:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	he keeps drinking and boasts about it in public
[12:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	then he insinuated the spouse had the mental issues
[12:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	but in IRC he said he had sought professional psch help for himself
[12:37]	bms	in my case
[12:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	so that's another prijection
[12:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	I raisded this at the High Court a year ago
[12:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	he was not amused
[12:37]	bms	the narcissistic abuse was directly witnessed in early September
[12:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	and did not deny that
[12:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://techrights.org/n/2026/05/26/SLAPP_Censorship_Part_88_Out_of_200_Brett_Wilson_LLP_is_Defamin.shtml
[12:38]	TR Bot	 Techrights SLAPP Censorship - Part 88 Out of 200: Brett Wilson LLP is Defaming Trans People in America Because Garrett Pays Hired Guns to Silence Them
[12:38]	bms	by a person close to me who has known me for 25+ years who was looking over my shoulder at my invitation as it happened
[12:38]	bms	I have it screencapped partially
[12:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	also cooperated with autistic bully
[12:38]	bms	the bit where that person tries to second guess what a court might do
[12:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	autistic by one's own admission
[12:38]	bms	bench judges and magistrates HATE THAT
[12:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	then they call the people they bully "autistic"
[12:38]	bms	screencapped, signed
[12:38]	bms	yup
[12:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	so that is a lot like homophobes
[12:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	caling people "fags"
[12:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	because they themselves are gay
[12:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	so they try to SEEM anti-gay
[12:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	self-hatred is a thing
[12:39]	bms	if you read the clinical definitions of NPD
[12:39]	bms	it is quite literally how their personality is constructed
[12:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	i thought it wasa just net jargon
[12:39]	bms	they are compelled to attack people to feel better
[12:40]	bms	yes I myself initially was reticent and hesitant to apply the definition
[12:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	there is also a meme for "NPD"
[12:40]	bms	it was my friend and advisor who threw it out as a ringer initially in the immediate aftermath of what we all witnessed
[12:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	i didn't know it was recognised formally
[12:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	(If it is)
[12:40]	bms	DSM-IV no shit
[12:40]	bms	check Wikipedia
[12:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	narcissism is a thing
[12:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	narcissist personality disorded
[12:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	but online, NPD
[12:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	is something like non-participating thing
[12:40]	bms	I'm afraid the day that person accused me of being psychotic
[12:41]	bms	they themselves were most likely being psychotic
[12:41]	bms	and they crossed the line
[12:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	or maybe that's not the same acronym
[12:41]	bms	from being regarded merely as someone with narcissitic tendencies
[12:41]	bms	to being a malignant narcissist
[12:41]	bms	the thing is they thrive on the outrage
[12:41]	bms	it paradoxically enriches and validates them
[12:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	maybe NPC
[12:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	or some other term
[12:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-player_character
[12:42]	TR Bot	 Non-player character - Wikipedia
[12:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	two different things
[12:42]	bms	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder DSM-V Cluser B: Narcisstic
[12:42]	TR Bot	 Narcissistic personality disorder - Wikipedia
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	i probably mistood one acronym for another
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	one is tech jargon
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_People%27s_Congress
[12:43]	TR Bot	 National People's Congress - Wikipedia
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPC_(meme)
[12:43]	TR Bot	 NPC (meme) - Wikipedia
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	that's the one i thought about
[12:43]	bms	The thing is I always knew this person had problems
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	and this meme: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1b/NPC_wojak_meme.png?utm_source=en.wikipedia.org&utm_campaign=parser&utm_content=thumbnail_unscaled
[12:44]	bms	previously I identified them as engaging in discounting (from Transactional Analysis in psychology)
[12:44]	bms	Eric Berne: "I'm OK, You're OK"; "Games People Play"
[12:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	"The NPC (/n pi si/ EN-pee-SEE; also known as the NPC Wojak), derived from non-player character (NPC), is a Wojak character that represents people deemed to not think for themselves. It refers to those who lack introspection or intrapersonal communication, or whose identity is deemed entirely determined by their surroundings and the information they consume, with no conscious processing or discernment being done by the per
[12:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	son themselves"
[12:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	not the same as NPD
[12:44]	bms	indeed
[12:44]	bms	although
[12:44]	bms	the consesnsus is that NPD sufferers see other people as objects, perhaps "NPC" Is applicable there
[12:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	so they see things "obnjectively" :)
[12:45]	bms	"Grandiose, thick-skinned NPD patients show a sense of uniqueness or superiority, attitudes of entitlement, a belief that others envy their abilities or status, low empathy, social dominance, superficial charm, disdainfulness or snobbery, and an exploitative interpersonal style characterized by manipulation and selfishness."
[12:45]	TR News	"The newly released help panel gathers assistive resources from across Hybrid Cloud Console in one place that's always just a click away" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/3-recent-enhancements-red-hat-hybrid-cloud-console | Source: Red Hat Official
[12:45]	TR Bot	 3 recent enhancements to Red Hat Hybrid Cloud Console
[12:46]	TR News	"To help you meet your current needs as you prepare for the future, RedHat OpenShift continues to evolve and reimagine application delivery." https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/5-minute-demo-how-build-modern-applications-red-hat-openshift | Source: Red Hat Official
[12:46]	TR Bot	 5-minute demo: How to build modern applications with Red Hat OpenShift
[12:46]	TR News	"Software teams often pin dependencies to exact versions to safeguard production stability, certification, and test baselines." https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/bridging-open-source-remediation-gap-introducing-two-new-lessons-lightwell | Source: Red Hat Official
[12:46]	TR Bot	 Bridging the open source remediation gap: Introducing two new lessons on Lightwell
[12:47]	TR News	"By default, though, ls sorts its output alphabetically by file name, which is fine for a small home directory but much less useful when you open /etc or /var/log and want to know what changed recently." https://www.tecmint.com/ls-sort-files-modification-date-time/ | Source: TecMint
[12:47]	TR Bot	 Sort Files by Date and Time Using ls command in Linux
[12:47]	TR News	"In September 2026, Amazon Web Services (AWS) published its first DLAMIs built on Ubuntu Pro in the Base GPU family." https://ubuntu.com//blog/ubuntu-pro-available-on-dlami | Source: Ubuntu
[12:47]	TR Bot	Pro is now available on AWS Deep Learning Amazon Machine Images (DLAMI) | Ubuntu
[12:48]	TR News	"Salon Shuts Down Cultural and Political Site After 31 Years" https://variety.com/2026/digital/news/salon-com-shuts-down-site-31-years-1236940936/ gawker only ran into trouble because of Thiel, is Salon being or was it killed by AI "summaries" of search results aka plagiarism?
[12:48]	TR Bot	 Salon Shuts Down Cultural and Political Site After 31 Years
[12:50]	TR News	he forgets to add anything about the infiltration by Microsoft https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/UbuntuMy2604Views http://techrights.org/n/2025/03/19/Is_Ubuntu_Compromised_Push_Away_From_GNU_and_GPL_Led_by_Army_Of.shtml
[12:50]	TR Bot	 You're using a too-old browser
[12:50]	TR Bot	 Techrights Is Ubuntu Compromised? Push Away From GNU and GPL Led by Army Officers.
[12:51]	TR News	slop, from a microsoft company https://thenewstack.io/docusign-mcp-server-agents/ http://techrights.org/n/2024/12/08/Microsoft_sponsored_The_New_Stack_Publishing_Microsoft_Windows_.shtml http://techrights.org/n/2024/07/20/Joab_Jackson_and_The_New_Stack_Publishing_Microsoft_Spam_E_E_E_.shtml https://techrights.org/n/2025/11/19/The_New_Stack_Sponsored_by_Microsoft_Pay_Us_Money_to_Read_Promo.shtml
[12:51]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://thenewstack.io/docusign-mcp-server-agents/ )
[12:51]	TR Bot	 Techrights Microsoft-sponsored "The New Stack" Publishing Microsoft Windows Articles in "Linux" Clothing
[12:51]	TR Bot	 Techrights Joab Jackson and "The New Stack" Publishing Microsoft Spam (E.E.E. Against Linux) for a Payment From Microsoft
[12:51]	TR Bot	 Techrights The New Stack, Sponsored by Microsoft: Pay Us Money to Read Promotion of Slop Composed by Microsofters to Sell Their Proprietary Slopware
[12:51]	TR News	"What will you build next? Arduino Black Friday deals are here | Arduino Blog" https://blog.arduino.cc/2026/11/05/what-will-you-build-next-arduino-black-friday-deals-are-here/
[12:51]	TR Bot	 What will you build next? Arduino Black Friday deals are here | Arduino Blog
[12:54]	TR News	What's new in network observability 1.12 https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2026/11/05/whats-new-network-observability-112
[12:54]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2026/11/05/whats-new-network-observability-112 )
● Nov 06
[13:22]	TR News	Techrights Linux (and Linus Torvalds) Sleepwalking Into a Binance-Level Catastrophe With Slop 'Code' https://techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Linux_and_Linus_Torvalds_Sleepwalking_Into_a_Binance_Level_Cata.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Linux_and_Linus_Torvalds_Sleepwalking_Into_a_Binance_Level_Cata.gmi 
[13:22]	TR Bot	 Techrights Linux (and Linus Torvalds) Sleepwalking Into a Binance-Level Catastrophe With Slop 'Code'
[13:39]	TR News	Techrights at 20 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2026/11/06/techrights-at-20/
[13:39]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Techrights at 20
[13:46]	TR News	David Jones going into administration https://www.rubenerd.au/david-jones-going-into-administration/
[13:46]	TR Bot	 Rubenerd: David Jones going into administration
[13:47]	TR News	Kushal Das: I am tired https://kushaldas.in/posts/i-am-tired.html
[13:47]	TR Bot	 Kushal Das
[13:49]	TR News	The Servo Blog: September in Servo: <progress>, rounded rectangles, and more! https://servo.org/blog/2026/11/05/september-in-servo/
[13:49]	TR Bot	 September in Servo: &lt;progress>, rounded rectangles, and more! - Servo aims to empower developers with a lightweight, high-performance alternative for embedding web technologies in applications.
[13:52]	TR News	Critical security vulnerability affects OpenSSH on Alpine GNU/Linux systems https://lwn.net/Articles/1105464/
[13:52]	TR Bot	security vulnerability affects OpenSSH on Alpine Linux systems [LWN.net]
[13:52]	TR News	Security updates for Thursday https://lwn.net/Articles/1105639/
[13:52]	TR Bot	updates for Thursday [LWN.net]
[13:54]	TR News	ACEMAGIC Kron Mini K5 Review Part 3: Ubuntu 26.04 on an entry-level Wildcat Lake mini PC https://www.cnx-software.com/2026/11/05/acemagic-kron-mini-k5-review-part-3-ubuntu-26-04-on-an-entry-level-wildcat-lake-mini-pc/
[13:54]	TR Bot	 ACEMAGIC Kron Mini K5 Review Part 3: Ubuntu 26.04 on an entry-level Wildcat Lake mini PC - CNX Software
● Nov 06
[14:01]	TR News	 (NEW):  Transnational Oppression/Repression by Microsoft-Connected Actors, Even Transnational Swatting https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Transnational_Oppression_Repression_by_Microsoft_Connected_Acto.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Transnational_Oppression_Repression_by_Microsoft_Connected_Acto.gmi 
[14:01]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Transnational Oppression/Repression by Microsoft-Connected Actors, Even Transnational Swatting
[14:05]	TR News	Fedora 45 Now Available http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Fedora-45-Now-Available
[14:05]	TR Bot	 Fedora 45 Now Available Linux Magazine
[14:06]	TR News	QSB-122: Package verification bypass in APT (DSA-6607-1) https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2026/11/06/qsb-122/
[14:06]	TR Bot	 QSB-122: Package verification bypass in APT (DSA-6607-1) | Qubes OS
[14:06]	TR News	ReinDB: read-only performance monitoring for PostgreSQL, first database free https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/reindb-read-only-performance-monitoring-for-postgresql-first-database-free-3432/
[14:06]	TR Bot	 PostgreSQL: ReinDB: read-only performance monitoring for PostgreSQL, first database free
[14:07]	TR News	OpenAI's upcoming model finds 948 Linux kernel vulnerabilities that could grant root access https://www.neowin.net/news/openais-upcoming-model-finds-948-linux-kernel-vulnerabilities-that-could-grant-root-access/
[14:07]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.neowin.net/news/openais-upcoming-model-finds-948-linux-kernel-vulnerabilities-that-could-grant-root-access/ )
[14:09]	TR News	New Steam Games with Native GNU/Linux Builds, including Corpus and Spiritus, and Hot Wax - 2026-11-04 Edition https://boilingsteam.com/new-steam-games-with-native-linux-builds-2026-11-04-edition/index.html
[14:09]	TR Bot	 New Steam Games with Native Linux Builds, including Corpus and Spiritus, and Hot Wax - 2026-11-04 Edition
[14:09]	TR News	Andrew Cater: ARM Cambridge - pre mini-Debconf days 20261105 http://flosslinuxblog.blogspot.com/2026/11/arm-cambridge-pre-mini-debconf-days.html
[14:09]	TR Bot	 FLOSSLinux: Arm Cambridge - pre mini-Debconf days 20261105
[14:12]	TR News	Shrink stored models with butcher https://www.r-bloggers.com/2026/11/shrink-stored-models-with-butcher/
[14:12]	TR Bot	stored models with butcher | R-bloggers
[14:13]	TR News	22 Best Free and Open Source Terminal-Based YouTube Tools https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-console-based-youtube-tools/
[14:13]	TR Bot	Best Free and Open Source Terminal-Based YouTube Tools - LinuxLinks
[14:13]	TR News	Mainstream 4.0.0 https://distrowatch.com/mainstream
[14:13]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/mainstream )
[14:14]	TR News	Shanios 2026.11.05 https://distrowatch.com/shanios
[14:14]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/shanios )
[14:18]	TR News	Alpine 3.24.4 https://distrowatch.com/alpine
[14:18]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/alpine )
[14:18]	TR News	HoopoeLinux 2026-11-05 https://distrowatch.com/hoopoelinux
[14:18]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/hoopoelinux )
[14:18]	TR News	OsoLinux 45 https://distrowatch.com/osolinux
[14:18]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/osolinux )
[14:18]	TR News	CaramOS 1.3.4 https://distrowatch.com/caramos
[14:18]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/caramos )
[14:19]	andy	don't expect to hear back from Salon, but mailed them anyway with invitation
[14:19]	TR News	FOSS Weekly #26.45: Fedora 45, Immutable Ubuntu, Mint New Feature, Dual Boot Without USB and More GNU/Linux Stuff https://itsfoss.com/newsletter/foss-weekly-26-45/
[14:19]	TR Bot	 FOSS Weekly #26.45: Fedora 45, Immutable Ubuntu, Mint New Feature, Dual Boot Without USB and More Linux Stuff
[14:19]	andy	don't expect to hear back from Salon, but mailed them anyway with invitation
[14:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	good
[14:19]	schestowitz[TR2]	worth trying
[14:20]	andy	new episode up - very interesting convo with a vibe coder who beleives personal "AI" is redemption
[14:20]	TR News	This Overlooked GNU/Linux mv Option Replaces Three Commands With One https://itsfoss.com/mv-exchange/
[14:20]	TR Bot	 This Overlooked Linux mv Option Replaces Three Commands With One
[14:21]	andy	https://cybershow.uk/content/episodes/vibe/vibe.html
[14:21]	TR Bot	 Good Vibrations? Vibe coding a digital assistant
[14:21]	TR News	ESP32-S3 USB dongle adds microphone, IR and hardware security https://linuxgizmos.com/esp32-s3-usb-dongle-adds-microphone-ir-and-hardware-security/
[14:21]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/esp32-s3-usb-dongle-adds-microphone-ir-and-hardware-security/ )
[14:22]	TR News	"What's vibe coding and how/why does one make the move from catering to computer programming (when so many disaffected coders are moving the other way) ? What inspired GURU and why are existing phone based PDAs based on "AI" models all rubbish?" https://cybershow.uk/content/episodes/vibe/vibe.html
[14:23]	MinceR	06 064448 < IsambardPrince> But when you see two people yelling at each other about something and one of them has a gun, you shouldn't interrupt that.
[14:23]	MinceR	you could interrupt it by shooting the one who has a gun. or both.
[14:23]	TR News	"We're currently working on our new website." Uses Microsoft (Github) :/ https://unuslumen.co.uk/ http://techrights.org/n/2026/09/17/What_s_Wrong_with_Microsoft_s_GitHub_New_Article_by_Jacob_Bachm.shtml
[14:23]	TR Bot	 GURU by Unus Lumen
[14:23]	TR Bot	 Techrights What's Wrong with Microsoft's GitHub, New Article by Jacob Bachmeyer and Richard Stallman
[14:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	andy: "
[14:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	yes, it's worth trying
[14:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	I suspect that something odd went on behind the scenes
[14:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[14:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	-anon
[14:24]	TR News	hyperbole @ Savannah: GNU Hyperbole 9.3.2 savannah.gnu.org/news/?id=10961
[14:25]	TR News	How To Install Vivaldi Browser on Fedora 45 https://idroot.us/install-vivaldi-browser-fedora-45/
[14:25]	TR Bot	 How To Install Vivaldi Browser on Fedora 45 - idroot
[14:26]	TR News	New LibreOffice Get involved flyers for handing out (and translations!) https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/11/05/new-libreoffice-get-involved-flyers-for-handing-out-and-translations/
[14:26]	TR Bot	 New LibreOffice "Get involved" flyers for handing out (and translations!) - TDF Community Blog
[14:27]	TR News	JYP Entertainment Sues Distributor OneSync Over the Alleged Infringement of Stray Kids Member Hans Back to Life https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2026/11/05/stray-kids-lawsuit-jyp-onesync/
[14:27]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2026/11/05/stray-kids-lawsuit-jyp-onesync/ )
[14:29]	TR News	hyperbole @ Savannah: GNU Hyperbole 9.3.0 savannah.gnu.org/news/?id=10959
[14:29]	TR News	hyperbole @ Savannah: GNU Hyperbole 9.3.1 savannah.gnu.org/news/?id=10960
[14:29]	TR News	hyperbole @ Savannah: GNU Hyperbole 9.2.0 (Koutliner Org-style visibility cycling release) savannah.gnu.org/news/?id=10958
[14:30]	TR News	hyperbole @ Savannah: GNU Hyperbole Interim release 9.1.0 savannah.gnu.org/news/?id=10957
[14:31]	TR News	GAFAM (e.g. Google) sponsored Software Freedom Conservancy https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2026/nov/05/foss-in-the-age-of-llm-gen-ai-assisted-reverse-eng/
[14:31]	TR Bot	 My Keynote at SeaGL and LLM-gen-AI-assisted Reverse Engineering - Conservancy Blog - Software Freedom Conservancy
[14:32]	TR News	"BTW when visiting a library branch today, the EndOf10.org posters were featured prominently. I put in a good word there for EndeavourOS"
[14:51]	TR News	mpv 4.20 adds support for DVD & Blu-Ray menus, Wayland HDR https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2026/11/mpv-4-20-released
[14:51]	TR Bot	 mpv 4.20 adds support for DVD & Blu-Ray menus, Wayland HDR - OMG! Ubuntu
[14:52]	TR News	Ubuntu refreshes time zone data for Canadian clock changes https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2026/11/ubuntu-canada-timezone-changes-2026
[14:52]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu refreshes time zone data for Canadian clock changes - OMG! Ubuntu
[14:53]	TR News	MPV 0.42.0 Released with Right-Click Context Menu https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2026/11/mpv-0-42-0-released-right-click-menu-wayland/
[14:53]	TR Bot	 MPV 0.42.0 Released with Right-Click Context Menu | UbuntuHandbook
[14:53]	TR News	KeePass 2.62 Released with Many Improvements [Ubuntu PPA] https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2026/11/keepass-2-62-released-with-many-improvements-ubuntu-ppa/
[14:53]	TR Bot	 KeePass 2.62 Released with Many Improvements [Ubuntu PPA] | UbuntuHandbook
[14:54]	TR News	blocked by gratuitous javascript: https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2026/11/05/new-libreoffice-get-involved-flyers-for-handing-out-and-translations/
[14:54]	TR News	"it is important to hammer on Restricted Boot with each mention of Garrett" https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/We_Can_Reach_31_Years_and_Longer.shtml
[14:54]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines We Can Reach 31 Years and Longer
[14:55]	TR News	Digital Borders Exposed: an online launch by Protect Not Surveil https://www.accessnow.org/event/digital-borders-exposed/
[14:55]	TR Bot	 Digital Borders Exposed: an online launch by Protect Not Surveil - Access Now
[14:56]	TR News	France needs 'more public services', 'salaries are too low', 'schools are in very, very bad shape' https://www.france24.com/en/france-needs-more-public-services-salaries-are-too-low-schools-are-in-very-very-bad-shape
[14:56]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.france24.com/en/france-needs-more-public-services-salaries-are-too-low-schools-are-in-very-very-bad-shape )
[14:58]	TR News	 Live: Interior ministry says 600,000 protest across France as unions claim 'close to 1.6 million' https://www.france24.com/en/france/20261105-live-france-nationwide-strikes-living-costs
[14:58]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.france24.com/en/france/20261105-live-france-nationwide-strikes-living-costs )
[14:59]	TR News	After Barricades, Riots and Protests, French Workers Go on Strike https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/05/world/europe/france-protests-general-strike.html
[14:59]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/05/world/europe/france-protests-general-strike.html )
[14:59]	TR News	Yesterday and Will Do the Same Next Week https://techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/During_Strikes_and_Industrial_Actions_Lots_of_EPO_Staff_Organis.shtml
[14:59]	TR Bot	 Techrights During Strikes and Industrial Actions Lots of EPO Staff Organised Yesterday and Will Do the Same Next Week
[14:59]	TR News	North Koreas army of world-class hackers is secret weapon that took down Binance https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/north-koreas-army-of-world-class-hackers-is-secret-weapon-that-took-down-binance
[14:59]	TR Bot	 North Koreas army of world-class hackers is secret weapon that took down Binance | The Straits Times
● Nov 06
[15:00]	TR News	What are the dangers of Intelligence Agencies using Hey Hi (AI) tools for surveillance? https://privacyinternational.org/news-analysis/5881/what-are-dangers-intelligence-agencies-using-ai-tools-surveillance
[15:00]	TR Bot	 What are the dangers of Intelligence Agencies using AI tools for surveillance? | Privacy International
[15:01]	TR News	Artifical Intelligence Agencies: The Use and Regulation of Hey Hi (AI) in UK Intelligence Agencies https://privacyinternational.org/report/5880/artifical-intelligence-agencies-use-and-regulation-ai-uk-intelligence-agencies
[15:01]	TR Bot	 Artifical Intelligence Agencies: The Use and Regulation of AI in UK Intelligence Agencies | Privacy International
[15:01]	TR News	Artificial Intelligence Agencies https://privacyinternational.org/long-read/5879/artificial-intelligence-agencies
[15:01]	TR Bot	 Artificial Intelligence Agencies | Privacy International
[15:02]	TR News	Axon Sued for Allegedly Collecting Data on Millions of California Drivers Through Its Hey Hi (AI) License Plate Readers https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/axon-lawsuit-california-driver-location-data-1830402
[15:02]	TR Bot	 Axon Sued for Allegedly Collecting Data on Millions of California Drivers Through Its AI License Plate Readers | IBTimes UK
[15:02]	TR News	Police say linking mall cameras to Hey Hi (AI) facial recognition network complies with Hong Kong privacy laws https://hongkongfp.com/2026/11/06/police-say-linking-mall-cameras-to-ai-facial-recognition-network-complies-with-hong-kong-privacy-laws/
[15:02]	TR Bot	 HK police defend addition of AI facial recognition to CCTV network
[15:04]	TR News	Finland Sends 2 Men to Prison for Damaging Undersea Cable in Baltic Sea https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/05/world/europe/finland-fitburg-russia-ship-baltic-cables-sabotage.html
[15:04]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/05/world/europe/finland-fitburg-russia-ship-baltic-cables-sabotage.html )
[15:05]	TR News	Local journalism is in peril: Surveillance Giant Google and BillBC seen as part of problem https://pressgazette.co.uk/comment-analysis/local-journalism-is-in-peril-google-and-bbc-seen-as-part-of-problem/
[15:05]	TR Bot	 Local journalism is in peril: Google and BBC seen as part of problem - Press Gazette
[15:07]	TR News	Test syslog-ng before the 4.13 release https://peter.czanik.hu/other/syslog-ng-test-before-the-413-release/
[15:07]	TR Bot	 Test syslog-ng before the 4.13 release | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik
[15:07]	TR News	Kiwi TCMS: Feature spotlight: Model Context Protocol https://kiwitcms.org/blog/kiwi-tcms-team/2026/11/05/feature-spotlight-model-context-protocol/
[15:07]	TR Bot	 Kiwi TCMS - Feature spotlight: Model Context Protocol
[15:08]	TR News	PCAP-LM: Helping Hey Hi (AI) assistants read network traffic https://blog.apnic.net/2026/11/06/pcap-lm-helping-ai-assistants-read-network-traffic/
[15:08]	TR Bot	 PCAP-LM: Helping AI assistants read network traffic | APNIC Blog
[15:08]	TR News	myDBR 7.7 brings web reporting to PostgreSQL https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/mydbr-77-brings-web-reporting-to-postgresql-3424/
[15:08]	TR Bot	 PostgreSQL: myDBR 7.7 brings web reporting to PostgreSQL
[15:09]	TR News	Autobase 2.12 released https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/autobase-212-released-3430/
[15:09]	TR Bot	 PostgreSQL: Autobase 2.12 released
[15:09]	TR News	PHP vulnerability post-mortem reveals bug was known two years ago https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/cyber-security/php-vulnerability-post-mortem-reveals-bug-was-known-two-years-ago-small-team-of-maintainers-knew-of-the-issue-before-it-was-made-public-as-new-php2shell-chained-exploit-ravages-servers
[15:09]	TR Bot	 PHP vulnerability post-mortem reveals bug was known two years ago Small team of maintainers knew of the issue before it was made public, as new PHP2Shell chained exploit ravages servers | Tom's Hardware
[15:10]	TR News	AAEON PICO-PTH4 Pico-ITX board is powered by an defective chip maker Intel Panther Lake SoC up to the Core Ultra X7 358H https://www.cnx-software.com/2026/11/06/aaeon-pico-pth4-pico-itx-board-is-powered-by-an-intel-panther-lake-soc-up-to-the-core-ultra-x7-358h/
[15:10]	TR Bot	 AAEON PICO-PTH4 Pico-ITX board is powered by an Intel Panther Lake SoC up to the Core Ultra X7 358H - CNX Software
[15:12]		*psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights
[15:13]	TR News	John Goerzen: Letter from a Kansan: Would You Rather Be Right or Happy? https://changelog.complete.org/archives/45047-letter-from-a-kansan-would-you-rather-be-right-or-happy
[15:13]	TR Bot	 Making sure you're not a bot!
[15:14]	TR News	Turkey requires COP31 speakers to pledge compliance with public morality https://bianet.org/haber/turkey-requires-cop31-speakers-to-pledge-compliance-with-public-morality-325126
[15:14]	TR Bot	 Turkey requires COP31 speakers to pledge compliance with public morality
[15:15]	TR News	Real-time Hey Hi (AI) video analytics on Renesas at electronica 2026 https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/news-and-events/real-time-ai-video-analytics-on-renesas-at-electronica-2026.html
[15:15]	TR Bot	 Real-time AI video analytics on Renesas at electronica 2026
[15:19]	TR News	Olimex UEXT-CH390 SPI to Ethernet module targets Raspberry Pi and ESP32 MCU boards running ESPHome https://www.cnx-software.com/2026/11/06/olimex-uext-ch390-spi-to-ethernet-module-targets-raspberry-pi-and-esp32-mcu-boards-running-esphome/
[15:19]	TR Bot	 Olimex UEXT-CH390 SPI to Ethernet module targets Raspberry Pi and ESP32 MCU boards running ESPHome - CNX Software
[15:20]	TR News	P4 Launcher offers a PC-like and retro gaming experience on ESP32-P4 boards https://www.cnx-software.com/2026/11/05/p4-launcher-offers-a-pc-like-and-retro-gaming-experience-on-esp32-p4-boards/
[15:20]	TR Bot	 P4 Launcher offers a PC-like and retro gaming experience on ESP32-P4 boards - CNX Software
[15:21]	TR News	Clear but Absurd: The Federal Circuit Searches for a Middle Ground in Vicor v. ITC https://patentlyo.com/patent/2026/11/clear-but-absurd-the-federal-circuit-searches-for-a-middle-ground-in-vicor-v-itc.html
[15:21]	TR Bot	 Clear but Absurd: The Federal Circuit Searches for a Middle Ground in Vicor v. ITC | Patently-O
[15:22]	TR News	UPC is illegal and unconstitutional, but those malicious firms make money out of this cocaine-soaked corruption https://www.juve-patent.com/cases/hogan-lovells-cadwalader-fend-off-arrest-for-polytech-manager/
[15:22]	TR Bot	 Hogan Lovells Cadwaladerfend off arrest for Polytech manager - JUVE Patent
[15:23]	TR News	Hackers target French blood service fridges following supermarket attacks https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/cyber-security/blood-banks-in-france-hit-by-temperature-raising-attacks-on-fridges-purported-hackers-claim-attacks-are-about-cybersecurity-not-malice
[15:23]	TR Bot	 Hackers target French blood service fridges following supermarket attacks Russia-aligned hackers claim intrusions are just to expose bad security | Tom's Hardware
[15:23]	TR News	French bank hit by cyberattack, hackers steal $100 million https://www.france24.com/en/cyberattack-french-bank-says-online-hacking-stole-around-100-million
[15:23]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.france24.com/en/cyberattack-french-bank-says-online-hacking-stole-around-100-million )
[15:25]		*psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights
[15:26]	TR News	New website lets South Koreans rate police investigations like restaurants https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/new-website-lets-south-koreans-rate-police-investigations-like-restaurants
[15:26]	TR Bot	 South Korea police investigations rated online by users | The Straits Times
[15:33]	TR News	Media Mulia, publisher of Malaysias oldest newspaper, to reconsider retrenchment of 100 staff https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/media-mulia-publisher-of-malaysias-oldest-newspaper-to-reconsider-retrenchment-of-100-staff
[15:33]	TR Bot	 Media Mulia to review retrenchment plan | The Straits Times
[15:34]	TR News	Plot twist! A classic novel facing scrutiny in US becomes required reading in China. https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pacific/2026/1105/jane-eyre-charlotte-bronte-china-us-ban
[15:34]	TR Bot	Jane Eyre is loved in China but not in some parts of the US - CSMonitor.com
[15:39]	bms	once again Dario Amodei picked a "Fun Lovin' Criminals" song chorus as a lifestyle choice: "RUNNIN' AROUND ROBBIN' BANKS ALL WHACKED OFFA SCOOBY SNAX"
[15:39]	bms	https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scooby+snax
[15:39]	TR Bot	 Urban Dictionary: scooby snax
[15:40]	bms	yeah it's adderall. never taken the stuff, never been one for that kind of stim
[15:40]	TR News	We'll be sure to post something to SN for the 20th anniversary https://soylentnews.org/submit.pl
[15:40]	TR Bot	 SoylentNews Submissions
[15:41]	bms	er technically I did "rob banks" indirectly when I contracted for forex algotraders, and my "scooby snax" were a nicotine gum addiction
[15:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	they rob the web
[15:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	or net
[15:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	sloppifying it all
[15:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	the  calling it "theft" when other use that
[15:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	not how they want
[15:43]	bms	I will publish as PDF, encrypted, and they can kiss my ass under DMCA Section 1201
[15:43]	bms	2500USD per violation thank you
[15:43]	bms	Anthropic live by the DMCA, they can die by it too
[15:43]	bms	I'm not doing anything offensive, I'm just being a "rational economic actor"
[15:44]	bms	do these people think other people are stupid? of course there's no machine god and LLMs don't invent anything
[15:46]	bms	but the people who push LLMs are relentlessly inventive (about science fiction masquerading as marketing information or the contents of an S1/A filed with the SEC)
[15:46]	bms	"RUNNIN' AROUND ROBBIN' BANKS ALL WHACKED OFFA SCOOBY SNAX" /o~
● Nov 06
[16:03]	TR News	Hong Kong's Joshua Wong: From teenage protest leader to a decade behind bars https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/hong-kongs-joshua-wong-from-teenage-protest-leader-to-a-decade-behind-bars
[16:03]	TR Bot	 Hong Kong's Joshua Wong: From teenage protest leader to a decade behind bars | The Straits Times
[16:04]	TR News	International community condemns Joshua Wongs 10-year foreign collusion sentence https://rfa.org/english/china/2026/11/05/joshua-wong-hong-kong-sentence/
[16:04]	TR Bot	 International community condemns Joshua Wongs 10-year foreign collusion sentence Radio Free Asia
[16:05]	TR News	Systemd Wants Rust in, But its Core Will Have to Wait https://itsfoss.com/news/systemd-rust-support/
[16:05]	TR Bot	 Systemd Wants Rust in, But its Core Will Have to Wait
[16:08]	TR News	Government names 50 local news publishers receiving share of 6m grant https://pressgazette.co.uk/publishers/local-media-funding-government-grants/
[16:08]	TR Bot	 Government names 50 local news publishers receiving share of 6m grant - Press Gazette
[16:12]	admfubar	aaaaawwwww+  https://futurism.com/future-society/tesla-winding-down-cybertruck-production
[16:12]	TR Bot	 Tesla Winding Down Cybertruck Production After Dismal Sales
[16:19]	TR News	Techrights 20 Years of Techrights https://techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/20_Years_of_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/20_Years_of_Techrights.gmi 
[16:19]	TR Bot	 Techrights 20 Years of Techrights
[16:31]	TR News	Microsoft layoffs. "Take the bag of money off the table and run. Crank up Van Halen JUMP." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m65d2ry5
[16:31]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m65d2ry5 )
[16:31]	TR News	"I was at IBM for a long while. Ill tell you the grass is not greener at in house roles (was in consulting). IBM has its problems like any company but its absolutely run better than other organizations."
[16:31]	TR News	"Consulting in particular is great because you dont deal with the internal politics of one company for too long. If youve got a seat at IBM stay put." https://www.reddit.com/r/IBM_Employees/comments/1xpcswb/grass_is_not_greener/
[16:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reddit
[16:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	admfubar: did you ever see one?
[16:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	IRL
[16:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	i don't think i ave
[16:32]	schestowitz[TR2]	just videos or internet "memes"
[16:32]	TR News	The Scrutiny of Anti-American Employment Practices Must Include IBM https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m6rt0e9d
[16:32]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m6rt0e9d )
[16:33]	TR News	IBM: "Massive RAs beginning of 2027" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m6rsbf7n
[16:33]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m6rsbf7n )
[16:41]	TR News	Feedback: "Perhaps close with a paragraph about current and near-future writing goals?" https://techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/20_Years_of_Techrights.shtml s/Microsoft, patents/Microsoft, software patents/
[16:41]	TR News	hunger next summer / autumn: https://yle.fi/a/7-10108308 apropos hunger, seed potatoes burned up - presumably more 'hybrid' action
[16:41]	TR Bot	 En femtedel av Finlands sttpotatis gick upp i rk | Inrikes | Svenska Yle
[16:41]	TR News	World First: Underwater Volcano Off US Coast Generates Net-Positive Electricity https://www.sciencealert.com/world-first-underwater-volcano-off-us-coast-generates-net-positive-electricity
[16:41]	TR Bot	First: Underwater Volcano Off US Coast Generates Net-Positive Electricity : ScienceAlert
[16:43]	TR News	Stocks Erase Post-Midterm Elections Rally, Dragged Down by Tech https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/05/business/stocks-midterms-artificial-intelligence.html
[16:43]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/05/business/stocks-midterms-artificial-intelligence.html )
[16:43]	TR News	Anthropic loosens Claude's game cloning ban https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/anthropic-loosens-game-restrictions-claude-will-now-offer-to-build-original-game-in-same-genre-if-asked-to-copy
[16:43]	TR Bot	 Anthropic loosens Claude's game cloning ban AI will now offer to build original games in the requested genre | Tom's Hardware
[16:44]	TR News	midterms
[16:45]	TR News	Tech Industry in Denial That the Midterms Show Everyone Hates Them https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/tech-industry-in-denial-midterms
[16:45]	TR Bot	 Tech Industry in Denial That the Midterms Show Everyone Hates Them
[16:45]	TR News	BuzzFeed Stock in Free Fall as Pivot to Hey Hi (AI) Blows Up in Its Face https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/buzzfeed-stock-free-fall-pivot-ai
[16:45]	TR Bot	 BuzzFeed Stock in Free Fall as Pivot to AI Blows Up in Its Face
[16:45]	TR News	Kids Hooked on Hey Hi (AI) Chatbots Are Showing Dramatically Worse Mental Health https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/kids-hooked-ai-worse-mental-health
[16:45]	TR Bot	 Kids Hooked on AI Chatbots Are Showing Dramatically Worse Mental Health
[16:46]	parsifal	20 Years of Techrights <--- \o/ +1 
[16:46]	TR News	Voters Supported Every Single Anti-Data Center Proposal in America, Except One https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/voters-midterm-elections-data-center-ballot-america
[16:46]	TR Bot	 Voters Supported Every Single Anti-Data Center Proposal in America, Except One
[16:46]		parsifal pi pi5-ipfs0 pi__ pi___ pi____ Princ3ss21F prurigro psydruid 
[16:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	parsifal: ty
[16:46]	parsifal	yw
[16:47]	TR News	Does GGG (inc. Microsoft's Serial Strangler) agree? https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/england-wales-ban-prohibited-pornographic-images-1830535
[16:47]	TR Bot	 UK Criminalises Possession of Certain Porn Images Today as New Law Targets Strangulation and Incest Content | IBTimes UK
[16:47]	TR News	Nicki Minaj Faces $295,605 Legal Battle as Former Lawyers Say She Has Not Responded to Lawsuit 'in Any Way' https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/nicki-minaj-former-lawyers-unpaid-bills-lawsuit-1830501
[16:47]	TR Bot	 Nicki Minaj Faces $295,605 Legal Battle as Former Lawyers Say She Has Not Responded to Lawsuit 'in Any Way' | IBTimes UK
[16:48]	TR News	A resilient country doesnt have hungry households https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/a-resilient-country-doesnt-have-hungry-households/
[16:48]	TR Bot	 A resilient country doesnt have hungry households | The Strategist
[16:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	parsifal: still don't know what country, but that does not matter
[16:50]	parsifal	schestowitz[TR2]: ?
[16:50]	TR News	Thailand bans textbook on national security grounds https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/thailand-bans-textbook-on-national-security-grounds
[16:50]	TR Bot	 Thailand bans textbook on national security grounds | The Straits Times
[16:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	yopu said we covered the place where you live
[16:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	but we cover many countries
[16:50]	TR News	Security Issue CVE-2026-114366: Information disclosure vulnerability in authentication handling of QWebSocket impacts Qt Framework https://www.qt.io/blog/security-issue-cve-2026-114366
[16:50]	TR Bot	 Security Issue CVE-2026-114366: Information disclosure vulnerability in authentication handling of QWebSocket impacts Qt Framework
[16:51]	TR News	 (NEW):  GStreamer 1.28.9 Multimedia Framework Adds Support for mpph264enc Encoder https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/GStreamer_1_28_9_Multimedia_Framework_Adds_Support_for_mpph264e.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/GStreamer_1_28_9_Multimedia_Framework_Adds_Support_for_mpph264e.gmi 
[16:51]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines GStreamer 1.28.9 Multimedia Framework Adds Support for mpph264enc Encoder
[16:51]	TR News	Truly reflective of his offence: Police welcome 10-year prison sentence for activist Joshua Wong amid intl outcry https://hongkongfp.com/2026/11/05/truly-reflective-of-his-offence-police-welcome-10-year-prison-sentence-for-activist-joshua-wong-amid-intl-outcry/
[16:51]	TR Bot	 Police welcome 10-year sentence for activist Joshua Wong amid int'l outcry
[16:52]	TR News	Hong Kong national security police arrest man over allegedly importing seditious books https://hongkongfp.com/2026/11/06/hong-kong-national-security-police-arrest-man-over-allegedly-importing-seditious-books/
[16:52]	TR Bot	 HK nat. security police arrest man over allegedly importing 'seditious' books
[16:53]	TR News	Zyxel Switch Hacks Blamed on Patched Flaw Actually Exploited a Zero-Day https://www.securityweek.com/zyxel-switch-hacks-blamed-on-patched-flaw-actually-exploited-a-zero-day/
[16:53]	TR Bot	Switch Hacks Blamed on Patched Flaw Actually Exploited a Zero-Day - SecurityWeek
[16:53]	TR News	why all the 'eggs' in one basket? https://projects.luke.fi/ruokafakta/sv/akermarksvaxter/produktionsomradet-for-hogklassig-utsadespotatis/ Sompi
[16:53]	TR Bot	 Produktionsomrdet fr hgklassig utsdespotatis - Matfakta
[16:53]	parsifal	schestowitz[TR2]: Ah, this... Just because I dont mention where Im from every other sentence doesnt mean Im hiding ;) -> GNU/Linux 7% in Bulgaria Posted by Roy Schestowitz on Nov 04, 2026 Tux Machines
[16:54]	TR News	The Irish decided that security is letting Microsoft control all the keys and locks for all computers and having only potatoes for food is totally safe
[16:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	so we are related
[16:55]	TR News	The Agent Smith Dilemma: Governing Agentic Identities https://www.securityweek.com/the-agent-smith-dilemma-governing-agentic-identities/
[16:55]	TR Bot	Agent Smith Dilemma: Governing Agentic Identities - SecurityWeek
[16:55]	TR News	Cisco, WatchGuard Release Patches; SonicWall Wont Fix GMS Flaws https://www.securityweek.com/cisco-watchguard-release-patches-sonicwall-wont-fix-gms-flaws/
[16:55]	TR Bot	WatchGuard Release Patches; SonicWall Wont Fix GMS Flaws - SecurityWeek
[16:56]	TR News	Cyberattack Hits French Blood Bank Site but No Blood Products Are Compromised https://www.securityweek.com/cyberattack-hits-french-blood-bank-site-but-no-blood-products-are-compromised/
[16:56]	TR Bot	Hits French Blood Bank Site but No Blood Products Are Compromised - SecurityWeek
[16:56]	TR News	Bank Phishing Sites Show Fake Suspended Pages to Evade Takedowns https://www.securityweek.com/bank-phishing-sites-show-fake-suspended-pages-to-evade-takedowns/
[16:56]	TR Bot	Phishing Sites Show Fake 'Suspended' Pages to Evade Takedowns - SecurityWeek
[16:57]	TR News	What will you build next? Arduino Black Friday deals are here https://blog.arduino.cc/2026/11/05/what-will-you-build-next-arduino-black-friday-deals-are-here/
[16:57]	TR Bot	 What will you build next? Arduino Black Friday deals are here | Arduino Blog
[16:57]	TR News	KDE Gear 26.08.3 https://kde.org/announcements/gear/26.08.3/
[16:57]	TR Bot	 KDE Gear 26.08.3 - KDE Community
[16:58]	TR News	Gunnar Wolf: Don't tell anybody... but we have apparently gone DARK! https://gwolf.org/2026/11/don-t-tell-anybody-but-we-have-apparently-gone-dark.html
[16:58]	TR Bot	 Gunnar Wolf Don't tell anybody... but we have apparently gone DARK!
[16:58]	TR News	UEFI = "single source of failure and proprietary failure at that" https://techrights.org/wiki/UEFI/
[16:58]	TR Bot	 UEFI
[16:59]	TR News	When one's publication staretgy and timing causes extremely stress at the right time the outcome can be desirable :)
● Nov 06
[17:00]	parsifal	<schestowitz[TR2]> so we are related -> Oh, and in what sense -> do you have relatives here? If its confidential, its fine if you dont answer :)
[17:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	notf or public
[17:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	*for
[17:00]	parsifal	ok :)
[17:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://korben.info/richard-stallman-revolution-logiciel-libre/richard-stallman-revolution-logiciel-libre-3.jpg
[17:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/entry-20050513.html
[17:01]	TR Bot	 Too Late for Bulgaria (2005-04-19 to 2005-04-22) Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
[17:03]	TR News	Vulnerability Scans for Older Cisco IOS Vulnerability / Opt-Out Headers, (Thu, Nov 5th) https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/33492
[17:03]	TR Bot	 Vulnerability Scans for Older Cisco IOS Vulnerability / Opt-Out Headers
[17:03]	TR News	Reproducible Builds (diffoscope): diffoscope 337 released https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-337-released/
[17:03]	TR Bot	 diffoscope 337 released
[17:04]	TR News	JPMorgan Stock Faces Fresh Pressure as Democrats Plan Probing Epstein Banking Ties https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/senate-democrats-jpmorgan-epstein-inquiry-1830484 http://techrights.org/n/2024/10/24/To_Linux_Foundation_Bill_Gates_is_a_Saint_and_Every_Russian_Dev.shtml
[17:04]	TR Bot	 JPMorgan Stock Faces Fresh Pressure as Democrats Plan Probing Epstein Banking Ties | IBTimes UK
[17:04]	TR Bot	 Techrights To Linux Foundation, Bill Gates is a Saint and Every Russian Developer is Pure Evil
[17:06]	TR News	Case Study: Kubescape Completes All Six Security Slam Badges with OpenSSF https://openssf.org/blog/2026/11/05/case-study-kubescape-completes-all-six-security-slam-badges-with-openssf/ http://techrights.org/o/2020/10/30/openssf-microsoft/
[17:06]	TR Bot	 Case Study: Kubescape Completes All Six Security Slam Badges | OpenSSF
[17:06]	TR Bot	 With Microsoft in Charge, OpenSSF Seems More Like It's About Back Doors -- Not Real Security -- Inside the Linux Foundation
[17:06]	parsifal	schestowitz[TR2]: I am aware of all this regarding Stohlman, as well as his attachment to the country, its music, and its folklore :)
[17:07]	TR News	Fairphone 1: Still going strong after 13 years https://www.fairphone.com/stories/fairphone-1-still-going-strong-after-13-years
[17:07]	TR Bot	1: Still going strong after 13 years
[17:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	maybe he can retire there
[17:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	but i doubt he plans to properly retire
[17:10]	TR News	The New York Times 4 hours ago: "Microsofts Buyout Offer Sets Its Workforce on Edge" - DUH, it's layoffs. They give you a chance to get some money to leave EARLY.
[17:10]	parsifal	Anyone who comes with good intentions, rather than with a sword, is always welcome :) Especially Mr. Stallman :)
[17:10]	TR News	NYTimes is part of the problem, playing a role in _corporate propaganda_
[17:11]	MinceR	i didn't realize swords and good intentions were mutually exclusive :>
[17:11]	TR News	The media has NO OBLIGATION TO REPEAT WHAT RICH LIARS SAY. The media's role should be to check what's TRUE, only THEN report.
[17:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	rms can sell swords
[17:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	to sofia
[17:12]	parsifal	lol
[17:13]	TR News	"Union for Arkane Lyon Accuses Microsoft of Sabotaging Marvels Blade"
[17:13]	TR News	Microsoft is a fallen angel :) charity :) http://techrights.org/n/2026/01/30/The_Epstein_Files_Don_t_Say_the_Ages_of_Those_Russian_Girls_Bil.shtml
[17:13]	TR Bot	 Techrights The Epstein Files Don't Say the Ages of Those "Russian Girls" Bill Epsteingate Exploited
[17:14]	MinceR	microslop never was an angel
[17:14]	MinceR	they got their start scamming altair with buggy shit they hacked up on stolen computer time
[17:15]	TR News	Xbox Is Closer Than Ever to Being Sold Off by Microsoft After Democrats Swept Congress, According to Gaming Industry Analyst Joost van Dreunen https://wccftech.com/microsoft-sell-xbox-democrats-congress-van-dreunen/amp/
[17:15]	TR Bot	 Xbox Is Closer Than Ever to Being Sold Off by Microsoft After Democrats Swept Congress, According to Gaming Industry Analyst Joost van Dreunen
[17:15]	TR News	Nobody would wish to buy something that loses so much money
[17:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	MinceR: i think that was sarcasm
[17:15]	schestowitz[TR2]	anyway, fallen angel is like Lucifer
[17:15]	MinceR	ic
[17:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	who was never an angel
[17:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	like billie G
[17:16]	MinceR	sure, but according to the fable, lucifer used to be an angel
[17:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	so they say
[17:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's a fabl;e
[17:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	they used to say billie g was "phila"
[17:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	turns out
[17:16]	schestowitz[TR2]	he was a "pedo" maybe
[17:17]	MinceR	gAIDS bought a reputation using ill-gotten funds
[17:18]	TR News	"After Microsoft, [Facebook] Offers Voluntary Retirement Scheme For Employees"
[17:19]	TR News	So that's it, ladies and gents. No more layoffs. FB is now "meta", layoffs are all just "buyouts".
[17:19]	TR News	They should also rebrand crimes as "offences" (all of them), then say all crime is now a solved issue.
[17:19]	TR News	"We are not divorced, we are separated voluntarily for a lifetime"
[17:20]	TR News	"I am not pregnant, except this month"
[17:20]	TR News	"You don't even work here! U R a bloody CONTRACTOR!"
[17:21]	TR News	Contract not reviewed or renewed is not "termination", but the effect is the same. The media parrots the same propaganda initiated by raiders of the economies. They also bought the media.
[17:22]	TR News	The term "layoffs" ceased to have a meaning, IBM does "PIPs" and "RAs". http://techrights.org/n/2026/10/13/We_re_Way_Past_the_Point_Where_Companies_Announce_or_Declare_Ma.shtml http://techrights.org/n/2026/09/01/Layoff_Trackers_Are_a_Sham_They_re_Like_US_Unemployment_Data.shtml
[17:22]	TR Bot	 Techrights We're Way Past the Point Where Companies Announce or Declare Mass Layoffs
[17:22]	TR Bot	 Techrights Layoff Trackers Are a Sham, They're Like US 'Unemployment Data'
[17:24]	TR News	"AI" mentioned NOT EVEN ONCE in this page. Well done, for a change. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/announcing-fedora-45
[17:24]	TR Bot	 Announcing Fedora 45
[17:24]	TR News	"AI" 53 times (!!!) in this page https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/future-proofing-enterprise-ai-impact-post-quantum-cryptography-red-hat-ai-enterprise
[17:24]	TR Bot	 Future-proofing enterprise AI: The impact of post-quantum cryptography on Red Hat AI Enterprise
[17:25]	TR News	"AI" 25 times in this page https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/sovereignty-ai-era-choice-control-and-autonomy
[17:25]	TR Bot	 Sovereignty in the AI era: Choice, control, and autonomy
[17:25]	TR News	IBM: Red Hat is actually an "AI company", right? RIGHT?
[17:26]	TR News	"AI" ten times in this page https://www.redhat.com/en/events/whats-next/open-source-security
[17:26]	TR Bot	 Red Hat virtual event | Whats next for open source security
[17:26]	TR News	"AI" in 2026 = "computersomethings"
[17:27]	TR News	IBM spam/ad https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-techstuff-26941194/episode/the-5-billion-effort-to-help-secure-the-worlds-shared-software-348511751
[17:27]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-techstuff-26941194/episode/the-5-billion-effort-to-help-secure-the-worlds-shared-software-348511751 )
[17:28]	TR News	Google News truly drowning in slopfarms this autumn/winter. Did it lay off ("buyouts") Google News staff again?
[17:28]	TR News	Debian, Ubuntu patch APT flaw that could hand attackers root https://www.csoonline.com/article/4245109/debian-ubuntu-patch-apt-flaw-that-could-hand-attackers-root.html
[17:28]	TR Bot	 Debian, Ubuntu patch APT flaw that could hand attackers root | CSO Online
[17:29]	TR News	Debian and Ubuntu Patch APT Flaw That Hands Attackers Root https://sqmagazine.co.uk/debian-ubuntu-patch-apt-flaw-attackers-root/
[17:29]	TR Bot	 Debian and Ubuntu Patch APT Flaw That Hands Attackers Root
[17:32]	TR News	"Meanwhile, the parties involved are playing a game of hot potato with who's fault." https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/cyber-security/combined-flaws-let-anyone-into-alpine-linux-and-other-distros-by-typing-anything-over-256-characters-as-a-password-emergency-fixes-for-openssh-and-musl-libc-issued-for-millions-of-systems-patch-immediately
[17:32]	TR Bot	 Combined flaws let anyone into Alpine Linux and other distros by typing anything over 256 characters as a password emergency fixes for OpenSSH and musl-libc issued for millions of systems, patch immediately | Tom's Hardware
[17:32]	TR News	"This release adds support for a new flag on Linux to help the kernel TUN/TAP to apply proper prioritization to incoming packets." https://9to5linux.com/openvpn-2-7-9-released-with-linux-and-gui-improvements-bug-fixes
[17:32]	TR Bot	2.7.9 Released with Linux and GUI Improvements, Bug Fixes - 9to5Linux
[17:33]	TR News	"This release fully implements user services for the OpenRC and dinit init systems." https://9to5linux.com/systemd-free-artix-
[17:33]	TR Bot	Artix Linux 2026.11 Is Out with Wayland-Only KDE Plasma Desktop - 9to5Linux
[17:33]	TR News	"This release also adds support for modern one-to-one trackpad gestures on both Wayland and Xorg sessions." https://9to5linux.com/cinnamon-6-8-desktop-environment-released-with-hibernation-support
[17:33]	TR Bot	6.8 Desktop Environment Released with Hibernation Support - 9to5Linux
[17:34]	TR News	Your Linux desktop has two clipboards, and the reason goes back to a 1980s design decision Wayland chose to keep https://www.xda-developers.com/linux-desktop-two-clipboards-reason-1980s-decision-wayland/
[17:34]	TR Bot	 Your Linux desktop has two clipboards, and the reason goes back to a 1980s design decision Wayland chose to keep
[17:34]	TR News	Bazzite 45 Launches With Start of Linux EAC V2 Support and Wider Handheld Compatibility https://www.techpowerup.com/354498/bazzite-45-launches-with-start-of-linux-eac-v2-support-and-wider-handheld-compatibility
[17:34]	TR Bot	45 Launches With Start of Linux EAC V2 Support and Wider Handheld Compatibility | TechPowerUp
[17:35]	TR News	"involving OpenSSH and musl" https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/openssh-flaw-lets-attackers-log-into-password-disabled-linux-accounts/
[17:35]	TR Bot	 OpenSSH flaw lets attackers log into password-disabled Linux accounts
[17:35]	TR News	OpenSSH Issues Emergency Fix for Flaw Letting Long Passwords Bypass SSH Auth on Alpine Linux https://thehackernews.com/2026/11/openssh-issues-emergency-fix-for-flaw.html
[17:35]	TR Bot	 OpenSSH Issues Emergency Fix for Flaw Letting Long Passwords Bypass SSH Auth on Alpine Linux
[17:36]	TR News	Linux Mint 27 arrives next month, and I like it already: New features and other upgrades to expect https://www.zdnet.com/tech/linux-mint-27-release-date/
[17:36]	TR Bot	Mint 27 arrives next month, and I like it already: New features and other upgrades to expect - ZDNET
[17:40]	TR News	"openSUSE Leap 16.1 lets users choose between a conventional Linux installation and an immutable system from the same installer, bringing the previously separate Leap Micro into the fold." https://www.theregister.com/os-platforms/2026/11/05/opensuse-leap-161-gives-linux-users-the-right-to-remain-immutable/5307874
[17:40]	TR Bot	 OpenSUSE Leap 16.1 gives Linux users the right to remain immutable
[17:40]	TR News	From Linux to Wikipedia: How Volunteers Build the Internet https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/from-linux-to-wikipedia-how-volunteers-build-the-internet/
[17:40]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/from-linux-to-wikipedia-how-volunteers-build-the-internet/ )
[17:40]	nobody	https://sshhole.com
[17:40]	TR Bot	sshhole.com
[17:41]	TR News	They omit from Torvalds' word the mention of GNU, which actually came from MIT
[17:41]	bms	"So, we pull these jobs to make a little money /  No one gets hurt if they don't act funny" 
[17:41]	TR News	"More than 30 years later, GNU/Linux (or just Linux, as most people call it) runs on billions of computers worldwide and has become one of the most important pieces of software in history."
[17:43]	TR News	Get root on a musl Linux system by slamming it with an overly long password https://www.theregister.com/security/2026/11/05/get-root-on-a-musl-linux-system-by-slamming-it-with-an-overly-long-password/5307910
[17:43]	TR Bot	 Get root on a musl Linux system by slamming it with an overly long password
[17:43]	TR News	"This free Linux distro impressed me with easy tools for seeing which apps are connecting, where traffic is coming from, and what to block - in one place." https://www.zdnet.com/tech/lordos-linux-distro-network-monitoring/
[17:43]	TR Bot	tried LordOS expecting another MacOS clone - then I opened its network monitor - ZDNET
[17:44]	MinceR	seems to me systemd/Linux "runs" on more computers than GNU/Linux :>
[17:44]	TR News	"If you're a fan of the MacOS UI but prefer the Linux OS, then you need to get Cutefish in your life. Even though it's in early development, it looks like it's going to be something special." https://www.zdnet.com/linux/cutefish-linux-distro-macos-clone/
[17:44]	TR Bot	tried the new Cutefish Linux distro, and it might be the best MacOS clone around - ZDNET
[17:45]	MinceR	short bus special
[17:45]	MinceR	though apparently routers still don't tend to "run" systemd
[17:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	they run dmc
[17:46]	nobody	*sshole isn't a systemd thing
[17:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	we've said it for years
[17:47]	MinceR	the register article is not about *sshhole either
[17:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	that systemd has an   -sshole problem
[17:48]	nobody	which one?
[17:48]	nobody	> www.theregister.com | Get root on a musl Linux system by slamming it with an overly long password
[17:48]	nobody	^ this one?
[17:48]	TR News	Bazzite 45 (Linux distro for gaming), and a Desktop OS for Microcontrollers: Liliputing News Roundup https://liliputing.com/a-4-key-keyboard-for-vibe-coding-apparently-bazzite-45-linux-distro-for-gaming-and-a-desktop-os-for-microcontrollers-liliputing-news-roundup/
[17:48]	MinceR	hm, actually i'm not sure where it was from
[17:48]	TR Bot	4-key keyboard (for vibe coding, apparently), Bazzite 45 (Linux distro for gaming), and a Desktop OS for Microcontrollers: Liliputing News Roundup - Liliputing
[17:48]	MinceR	06 184144 < techrights-news> "More than 30 years later, GNU/Linux (or just Linux, as most people call it) runs on billions of computers worldwide and has become one of the most important
[17:48]	MinceR	i was responding to this one
[17:48]	MinceR	                             pieces of software in history."
[17:48]	MinceR	i don't know if they took this from the register article or not
[17:48]	TR News	GrapheneOS brings Linux 6.18 to Pixel 10 series, eyes Android 17 QPR2 for Pixel 11 https://www.androidauthority.com/grapheneos-pixel-10-linux-6-18-pixel-11-support-3731993/
[17:48]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.androidauthority.com/grapheneos-pixel-10-linux-6-18-pixel-11-support-3731993/ )
[17:49]	TR News	Seems like LLM slop: Affinity Linux Port Is in Active Development, Canva Confirms https://techaeris.com/2026/11/05/affinity-linux-port-is-in-active-dev/
[17:49]	TR Bot	 Affinity Linux Port Is in Active Development, Canva Confirms
[17:51]	nobody	i'm a little disappointed to see musl-libc developer did *sshole
[17:51]	TR News	 (NEW):  Applications: Calendars, Affinity, Ghostty, and More https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/03/Applications_Calendars_Affinity_Ghostty_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/03/Applications_Calendars_Affinity_Ghostty_and_More.gmi 
[17:51]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Applications: Calendars, Affinity, Ghostty, and More
[17:52]	TR News	Protecting against CVE-2026-98432 when using Go programs https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2026/10/30/1
[17:52]	TR Bot	 oss-security - Fwd: Protecting against CVE-2026-98432 when using Go programs
[17:52]	TR News	Alpine Linux rebuilt its GitLab server after a close call what you should check ASAP https://www.zdnet.com/tech/alpine-linux-rebuilt-gitlab-server-attack/
[17:52]	TR Bot	Linux rebuilt its GitLab server after a close call - what you should check ASAP - ZDNET
[17:54]	TR News	5 Docker containers that make my Linux server easier to maintain https://www.howtogeek.com/5-docker-containers-that-make-managing-a-linux-server-easier/
[17:54]	TR Bot	 5 Docker containers that make my Linux server easier to maintain
[17:57]	TR News	SLOP and FICTIONAL 'authors': "Miles Okada is an AI-generated research agent at Unite.AI" https://www.unite.ai/openai-pipeline-finds-948-linux-kernel-privilege-escalation-flaws/
[17:57]	TR Bot	Pipeline Finds 948 Linux Kernel Privilege Escalation Flaws Unite.AI
[17:58]	TR News	Nvidia's new AI laptop runs nearly 80% slower on Linux but only when it's plugged in https://www.tomsguide.com/ai/nvidias-new-ai-laptop-runs-nearly-80-percent-slower-on-linux-but-only-when-its-plugged-in
[17:58]	TR Bot	 Nvidia's new AI laptop runs nearly 80% slower on Linux but only when it's plugged in | Tom's Guide
[17:59]	TR News	Scams riding the "linux" brand https://www.tokenpost.com/news/technology/49337
[17:59]	TR Bot	Codebase Is Now With the Linux Foundation as Project Hiero | TokenPost
[17:59]	TR News	Helldivers 2 gets a memory leak fix in GE-Protons latest Linux gaming update https://mixed-news.com/en/ge-proton-11-12-helldivers-2-memory-leak-linux/
[17:59]	TR Bot	 Helldivers 2 gets a memory leak fix in GE-Protons latest Linux gaming update
[17:59]	TR News	This Linux mini PC fits in a 12cm footprint, yet Tuxedo says it can take 128GB of RAM https://mixed-news.com/en/tuxedo-nano-pro-gen15-linux-mini-pc-128gb-ram/
[17:59]	TR Bot	 This Linux mini PC fits in a 12cm footprint, yet Tuxedo says it can take 128GB of RAM
● Nov 06
[18:01]	TR News	A Dream dated 24'th of May, recorded that Morning gemini://zhupelko.ru/prose/01-Dream.gmi
[18:02]	TR News	"I need to add Atlantis, I'm thinking now I need to separate the two, but I'll sort that out later." gemini://renfys.smol.pub/1793974324
[18:06]		*Goblin (~use@9ufr5q2xui6zg.irc) has joined #techrights
[18:06]	TR News	 (NEW):  Security Emergency in Alpine Linux (musl and OpenSSH) https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Security_Emergency_in_Alpine_Linux_musl_and_OpenSSH.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Security_Emergency_in_Alpine_Linux_musl_and_OpenSSH.gmi 
[18:06]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Emergency in Alpine Linux (musl and OpenSSH)
[18:08]	TR News	 (NEW):  Attack Path Found in APT, Patch Available https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Attack_Path_Found_in_APT_Patch_Available.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Attack_Path_Found_in_APT_Patch_Available.gmi 
[18:08]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Attack Path Found in APT, Patch Available
[18:11]	TR News	 (NEW):  New Steam Games with Native GNU/Linux Builds and Anthropic Makes It Simpler to Plagiarise Games With Brute Force https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/New_Steam_Games_with_Native_GNU_Linux_Builds_and_Anthropic_Make.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/New_Steam_Games_with_Native_GNU_Linux_Builds_and_Anthropic_Make.gmi 
[18:11]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines New Steam Games with Native GNU/Linux Builds and Anthropic Makes It Simpler to Plagiarise Games With Brute Force
[18:11]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today's HowTos   https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/today_s_howtos.gmi 
[18:11]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[18:13]	TR News	 (NEW):  MPV 0.42 Video Player Released with AMD Frame Rate Conversion Filter https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/05/MPV_0_42_Video_Player_Released_with_AMD_Frame_Rate_Conversion_F.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/05/MPV_0_42_Video_Player_Released_with_AMD_Frame_Rate_Conversion_F.gmi 
[18:13]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines MPV 0.42 Video Player Released with AMD Frame Rate Conversion Filter
[18:13]	TR News	 (NEW):  Applications: KeePass 2.62 released and Testing syslog-ng before the 4.13 release https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Applications_KeePass_2_62_released_and_Testing_syslog_ng_before.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Applications_KeePass_2_62_released_and_Testing_syslog_ng_before.gmi 
[18:13]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Applications: KeePass 2.62 released and Testing syslog-ng before the 4.13 release
[18:21]	TR News	 (NEW):  Audiocasts/Shows: BSD Now and The Cyber Show https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Audiocasts_Shows_BSD_Now_and_The_Cyber_Show.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Audiocasts_Shows_BSD_Now_and_The_Cyber_Show.gmi 
[18:21]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Audiocasts/Shows: BSD Now and The Cyber Show
[18:21]	TR News	 (NEW):  Microsoft's 'Open' 'AI' (Slop) Riding the Linux Brand for Self-Promotion https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Microsoft_s_Open_AI_Slop_Riding_the_Linux_Brand_for_Self_Promot.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Microsoft_s_Open_AI_Slop_Riding_the_Linux_Brand_for_Self_Promot.gmi 
[18:21]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Microsoft's 'Open' 'AI' (Slop) Riding the Linux Brand for Self-Promotion
[18:23]	TR News	 (NEW):  GNU/Linux in MIT Press, More GNU/Linux Mainstreaming Pieces https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/GNU_Linux_in_MIT_Press_More_GNU_Linux_Mainstreaming_Pieces.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/GNU_Linux_in_MIT_Press_More_GNU_Linux_Mainstreaming_Pieces.gmi 
[18:23]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines GNU/Linux in MIT Press, More GNU/Linux Mainstreaming Pieces
[18:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	andy: severasl of us listen to your right now
[18:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	our term listens to the ep
[18:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	i might give feedback IRL
[18:23]	schestowitz[TR2]	real time too
[18:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[18:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	checking
[18:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	will have to listen more carefully
[18:24]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[18:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	andy: you made android s/w?
[18:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	i did too
[18:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	over a decade ago
[18:27]	schestowitz[TR2]	in academia
[18:28]	TR News	 (NEW):  Kushal Das on Fatigue (Slop Troubles) and Red Hat Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Kushal_Das_on_Fatigue_Slop_Troubles_and_Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Kushal_Das_on_Fatigue_Slop_Troubles_and_Red_Hat_Leftovers.gmi 
[18:28]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Kushal Das on Fatigue (Slop Troubles) and Red Hat Leftovers
[18:30]	TR News	 (NEW):  FreeBSD: Pair of Stories https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/FreeBSD_Pair_of_Stories.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/FreeBSD_Pair_of_Stories.gmi 
[18:30]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines FreeBSD: Pair of Stories
[18:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	andy: he says "AI" a lot
[18:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	and many brands
[18:33]	schestowitz[TR2]	not hippos :)
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's frustratring
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	11:00
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	so much excitement over buzzword
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	then you step in
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	and speak of control over data
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	"Reminiscist of how it was in the 1980s"
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	true
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	so nothing new
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR2]	:)
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	well said
[18:35]	TR News	 (NEW):  Ubuntu and Linux Mint Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Ubuntu_and_Linux_Mint_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Ubuntu_and_Linux_Mint_Leftovers.gmi 
[18:35]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Ubuntu and Linux Mint Leftovers
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	you say "Linux"
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	could say GNU now
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	as Linux is now slop-ware
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	and we need to remind people of FS
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	(IMHO)
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR2]	not try to be abrasive
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	some criticism:
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	could be more critical regarding the terms
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	and how superficial the "apps" are
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's well known that "vibe" - a misnomer - invents nothing
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	just reinvents wheels
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR2]	for simple tasks
[18:38]	TR News	 (NEW):  ESP32, Arduino, and More Open Hardware Picks https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/ESP32_Arduino_and_More_Open_Hardware_Picks.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/ESP32_Arduino_and_More_Open_Hardware_Picks.gmi 
[18:38]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines ESP32, Arduino, and More Open Hardware Picks
[18:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	waste of energy -  15:10 https://cybershow.uk/content/episodes/vibe/vibe.html
[18:38]	TR Bot	 Good Vibrations? Vibe coding a digital assistant
[18:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	he makes an "app" for one person
[18:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	and it burns energy
[18:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	he ecomplains about "bif twech"
[18:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	but feeds lots of data to it
[18:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	"i am not necessarily saying it's a good or bad thing"
[18:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	he feeds data to these
[18:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	"what is ai"? ios it technology? is it political movement?"
[18:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	"is it a calss struggle around a labour relationship?
[18:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's hyype
[18:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's buzzwords
[18:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	i/w interpolation
[18:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	based on "creative" plagiaortism
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	he seems like an addict of chatbots
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	like all the major one
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	so drunk on this whole "hey hi" koo-aid
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	IMHO
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	*kool
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	"i open-sourced it
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	"
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	no
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	he cannot 
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	he does not know this code
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	and it cannot be copyrighted
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	see: https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/11/Slop_ware_Is_Not_Newsworthy.shtml
[18:41]	TR Bot	 Techrights Slop-ware Is Not Newsworthy
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	he uses the word "thinking
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's not thinking
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	he's not CS
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	he uses the wrong terms
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	feed back data
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	that's not "thinking"
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	the LLM is "External serve you attach it to"
[18:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	so no
[18:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	he is outsourcing it all
[18:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	and earlier said "local"
[18:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's not
[18:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	and all this code plagiariskj thing is almost NEVER local
[18:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	and not even "open weights"
[18:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	it does not scale
[18:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	and "open weights" means some other company controls it
[18:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	but lets you edit it
[18:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	which you won't
[18:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	nobody would
[18:44]		*IsambardPrince (~IsambardPrince@twbe9h3rtfirq.irc) has joined #techrights
[18:44]	MinceR	you can train the model further, but it's expensive
[18:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	yes
[18:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	very expensive
[18:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	even GAFAM< loses thgeir pants
[18:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	and if you do it just for you
[18:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	it scales badlt
[18:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	*ly
[18:44]	MinceR	the P in GPT is there because it was meant to be trained further
[18:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	rtight
[18:45]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, Apparently the Cybertruck is being discontinued due to low sales.
[18:45]	IsambardPrince	I commented:
[18:45]	MinceR	lol
[18:45]	IsambardPrince	When a Pontiac Aztek and a DeLorean DMC love each other very much and bring in a dumpster for a threesome....
[18:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	right
[18:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	IsambardPrince: iiiit was brought up earlier
[18:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	i said
[18:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	i never saw even one
[18:45]	MinceR	that's an insult to both the Aztek and the DeLorean
[18:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	NOT EVEN ONE
[18:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	not here or in Londonm
[18:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	never
[18:46]	TR News	 (NEW):  PostgreSQL News and Some More Databases https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/PostgreSQL_News_and_Some_More_Databases.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/PostgreSQL_News_and_Some_More_Databases.gmi 
[18:46]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines PostgreSQL News and Some More Databases
[18:47]	IsambardPrince	I told my mother "Then there were all these conservatives that decided hey, let's take a $100,000 vehicle and see if it's really bulletproof by shooting it.....Like something Brian would have done....You know this $100,000 car loan I got with my girlfriend co-signing for it? Let's try out an AR-15 on it."
[18:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	andy: you say 'nervous"
[18:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	he lets some bot access ssh
[18:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	on his grandma's TV
[18:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	and her ssh keys 
[18:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	private kieys on   GAFAM machine
[18:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	huge secuerity issue
[18:50]	TR News	 (NEW):  GNU Hyperbole Has Many New Releases: 9.3.2, 9.3.0, 9.3.1, 9.2.0, and 9.1.0 https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/GNU_Hyperbole_Has_Many_New_Releases_9_3_2_9_3_0_9_3_1_9_2_0_and.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/GNU_Hyperbole_Has_Many_New_Releases_9_3_2_9_3_0_9_3_1_9_2_0_and.gmi 
[18:50]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines GNU Hyperbole Has Many New Releases: 9.3.2, 9.3.0, 9.3.1, 9.2.0, and 9.1.0
[18:50]	TR News	 (NEW):   Programming Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Programming_Leftovers.gmi 
[18:50]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[18:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	andy: he seems not to mention anyone sle using it
[18:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	only himself
[18:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	so all the time spent redining proimpts
[18:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	that'
[18:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	that's for at most one person
[18:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	when he stops using it
[18:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	then it is zero
[18:51]	IsambardPrince	The Cybertruck was basically an EV designed for male toxicity.
[18:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	andy: well note, how his grandma cannot fix it
[18:52]	IsambardPrince	The battery alone weighed more than my Buick did.
[18:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	she cannot find the thing she relies on
[18:52]	IsambardPrince	The environmental footprint was worse than most trucks that run on diesel.
[18:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	so it sucks
[18:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	she depeds on someone's hobby
[18:52]	MinceR	it was designed?
[18:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	some dude burned himself inside a cybertruck
[18:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	to protest
[18:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	i think he was a vet
[18:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	2020 ish?
[18:53]	MinceR	stupid idea
[18:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	he ranted it
[18:53]	MinceR	he should have burned melon fusk inside a cybertruck instead
[18:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	did not buy it
[18:53]	MinceR	that would have worked
[18:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	rented
[18:54]	IsambardPrince	Yeah, the battery went up and the fire was so hot that it cremated him.
[18:54]	IsambardPrince	You know cremation is very expensive usually.
[18:54]	IsambardPrince	So he got a good deal there.
[18:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	andy: true re fuzzing and rev-eng
[18:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	but those are not new
[18:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's justb rebranded
[18:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	as "hey hi"
[18:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	and SUBSIDISED
[18:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	the brite force loses money
[18:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	because "hey hi"
[18:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	now it's OK to waste energy
[18:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	   andy he said it would cost 4 million pounds to make it work for more people
[18:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	give me 4 million
[18:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	i can hire 40 experiencwed devs for a yeart
[18:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	and make sometthing better
[18:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	that the eng actually undertsand and can properly test
[18:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	he said "take control of our own soveregnty":
[18:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	but
[18:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	he gives all his data to nasty company
[18:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	and gives them control over TVs
[18:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	he misses the irony
[18:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	"it's not for us"
[18:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	"it's by us"
● Nov 06
[19:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	he realised he was feeding the GAFAMs"
[19:00]	TR News	 (NEW):  Debian: mini-Debconf, Would You Rather Be Right or Happy? and SPAM https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Debian_mini_Debconf_Would_You_Rather_Be_Right_or_Happy_and_SPAM.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Debian_mini_Debconf_Would_You_Rather_Be_Right_or_Happy_and_SPAM.gmi 
[19:00]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Debian: mini-Debconf, Would You Rather Be Right or Happy? and SPAM
[19:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	and not sticking it to them
[19:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	seems you convinced them
[19:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	37:00 at  https://cybershow.uk/content/episodes/vibe/vibe.html
[19:00]	TR Bot	 Good Vibrations? Vibe coding a digital assistant
[19:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	lol, "bone marrow verification" https://cybershow.uk/content/episodes/vibe/vibe.html
[19:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	very funny portionb
[19:03]	TR News	 (NEW):  GNU/Linux and Free Software Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/GNU_Linux_and_Free_Software_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/GNU_Linux_and_Free_Software_Leftovers.gmi 
[19:03]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines GNU/Linux and Free Software Leftovers
[19:05]	TR News	 (NEW):  Security and Windows TCO Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Security_and_Windows_TCO_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Security_and_Windows_TCO_Leftovers.gmi 
[19:05]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security and Windows TCO Leftovers
[19:05]	TR News	"Dao is such a great idea. Although Dao is not an entity -- neither is space -- Daoism usually is represented by the Yin-Yang symbol." gemini://tilde.club/~keyboardan/gemlog/2026-11-06__Dao.gmi
[19:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	andy: you mention losing control
[19:07]	schestowitz[TR2]	after 50 mins
[19:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	and you ssaid you did android development
[19:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	so did i
[19:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's a good analogy there, waiting to be made
[19:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	android changes a lot fast
[19:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	and you need to keep updating software
[19:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	to keep it working
[19:08]	TR News	Techrights Gemini Links 06/11/2026: Dao and Dreams https://techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Gemini_Links_06_11_2026_Dao_and_Dreams.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Gemini_Links_06_11_2026_Dao_and_Dreams.gmi 
[19:08]	TR Bot	 Techrights Gemini Links 06/11/2026: Dao and Dreams
[19:08]	schestowitz[TR2]	the APIs change a lot
[19:09]	schestowitz[TR2]	you mention "futurism"
[19:11]	TR News	Techrights Links 06/11/2026: "XBox Is Closer Than Ever to Being Sold Off" and &quot;BuzzFeed Stock in Free Fall&quot; https://techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Links_06_11_2026_XBox_Is_Closer_Than_Ever_to_Being_Sold_Off_and.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/Links_06_11_2026_XBox_Is_Closer_Than_Ever_to_Being_Sold_Off_and.gmi 
[19:11]	TR Bot	 Techrights Links 06/11/2026: "XBox Is Closer Than Ever to Being Sold Off" and "BuzzFeed Stock in Free Fall"
[19:14]	parsifal	Mac lookalikes multiply as Linux raids Apple's wardrobe -> https://www.theregister.com/os-platforms/2026/11/06/mac-lookalikes-multiply-as-linux-raids-apples-wardrobe/5308070
[19:14]	TR Bot	 Mac lookalikes multiply as Linux raids Apple's wardrobe
[19:14]	parsifal	^<Modern macOS, or OS X as it was called a decade ago, is a Unix> -> No, it isn't. hose interested in why this is the case should contact The Open Group.
[19:17]		*poweruser_ (~Username@s8kfk54nxqtqy.irc) has joined #techrights
[19:18]	schestowitz[TR2]	hi poweruser_ 
[19:19]	TR News	Microsoft + Microsoft = <3 https://linux.slashdot.org/story/26/10/25/2227243/systemd-merges-support-for-rust-programs
[19:19]	TR Bot	 Systemd Merges Support for Rust Programs - Slashdot
[19:20]	TR News	SLOP! It'll just destroy your data, for UNKNOWN reasons. https://linux.slashdot.org/story/26/10/25/2153202/a-newly-proposed-linux-filesystem-can-fix-corrupted-data
[19:20]	TR Bot	 A Newly Proposed Linux Filesystem Can Fix Corrupted Data - Slashdot
[19:20]	TR News	Nobody wants SLOP 'code' to manage their whole file system
[19:22]	TR News	UK council accuses Microsoft of "blackmail" as software fees jump 15% https://www.neowin.net/news/uk-council-accuses-microsoft-of-blackmail-as-software-fees-jump-15/
[19:22]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.neowin.net/news/uk-council-accuses-microsoft-of-blackmail-as-software-fees-jump-15/ )
[19:24]	TR News	These boosters of monopolies on maths have lost the plot The Mental Process Exception to Patentability is Absurd, but Heres a Quick Fix https://patentdocs.org/2026/10/28/the-mental-process-exception-to-patentability-is-absurd-but-heres-a-quick-fix/
[19:24]	TR Bot	 The Mental Process Exception to Patentability is Absurd, but Heres a Quick Fix Patent Docs
[19:25]	TR News	'global health emergency' https://www.dw.com/en/experts-urge-global-health-emergency-as-climate-harms-accelerate/a-79773232 https://truthout.org/articles/long-awaited-climate-change-case-finally-goes-to-court-in-canada/
[19:25]	TR Bot	 Climate change experts urge 'global health emergency' status
[19:25]	TR Bot	 Long-Awaited Climate Change Case Finally Goes to Court in Canada | Truthout
[19:26]	TR News	Americas Miscalculation: Why Even Increased Oil Flows Through Hormuz Wont Solve The Energy Challenge https://scheerpost.com/2026/10/25/americas-miscalculation-why-even-increased-oil-flows-through-hormuz-wont-solve-the-energy-challenge/
[19:26]	TR Bot	 Americas Miscalculation: Why Even Increased Oil Flows Through Hormuz Wont Solve The Energy Challenge
[19:27]	TR News	Black Youth in the Media: Hearing About Them Not From Them https://www.projectcensored.org/black-youth-in-the-media-hearing-about-them-not-from-them/
[19:27]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/black-youth-in-the-media-hearing-about-them-not-from-them/ )
[19:28]	TR News	'Individuals selected first, then evidence sought' https://bianet.org/haber/turkey-s-anti-lgbti-crackdown-individuals-selected-first-then-evidence-sought-324807
[19:28]	TR Bot	 Turkey's anti-LGBTI+ crackdown: 'Individuals selected first, then evidence sought'
[19:32]	TR News	unixshadow MAY have turned into a slopfarm
[19:33]	TR News	My reflex of assuming our servers need ever-growing amounts of RAM https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/ServerRAMGrowthReflex
[19:33]	TR Bot	 You're using a too-old browser
[19:34]	TR News	Dancer2 2.3.0 Released https://blogs.perl.org/users/jason_a_crome/2026/10/dancer2-230-released.html
[19:34]	TR Bot	2.3.0 Released | Jason A. Crome [blogs.perl.org]
[19:34]	TR News	Monopolies on nature http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2026/10/eu-general-court-confirms-that-plant.html
[19:34]	TR Bot	 EU General Court confirms that plant variety rights applicants must provide technical data to support requests to examine a new distinguishing characteristic
[19:36]	TR News	Stanford prison experiment: why do controversial psychology studies still have such a hold on us? https://theconversation.com/stanford-prison-experiment-why-do-controversial-psychology-studies-still-have-such-a-hold-on-us-294814
[19:36]	TR Bot	 Stanford prison experiment: why do controversial psychology studies still have such a hold on us?
[19:37]	TR News	England needs 120% of normal rainfall to come out of drought this winter https://theconversation.com/england-needs-120-of-normal-rainfall-to-come-out-of-drought-this-winter-storms-wont-fix-that-yet-295121
[19:37]	TR Bot	 England needs 120% of normal rainfall to come out of drought this winter storms wont fix that yet
[19:42]	andy	thanks for feedback Roy n'all. It was a strange interview that I nearly didn't edit to publication but I realised I need to give a voice to people who are getting down this path - for better or worse they deeply believe in vibe. eating now bbl.
[19:47]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], So there's going to be pretty much no way to service those cybertrucks pretty soon.
[19:47]	IsambardPrince	Eventually Tesla will stop making parts and say you can't even pay them to fix it.
[19:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	andy: that helps me understand how these devs think
[19:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	but this one is 31
[19:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	and without tech background
[19:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	i know some are forced to use slop[
[19:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	and they can code too
[19:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	their employer forces them to use slop
[19:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	some relatives too
[19:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	IsambardPrince: that is the network effect
[19:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	sort of 
[19:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	in the 90s you would buy japanese model many bought
[19:50]	schestowitz[TR2]	like 120 million or more shipped
[19:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	you could always find spares in junk yards
[19:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	so the cars can last several decades
[19:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	it's like "Safety" in numbers
[19:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	those numbers mean "many spares" somewhere "out there"
[19:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	that's why we have standards for plugs
[19:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	without those consortia, you cannot even fix the power supply
[19:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	because it's unique to just one single product
[19:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	EU forced Apple to change its own
[19:52]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], I wrote:
[19:52]	IsambardPrince	This is why Tesla is basically a scam company.
[19:52]	IsambardPrince	So there's going to be pretty much no way to service those cybertrucks pretty soon.
[19:52]	IsambardPrince	Eventually Tesla will stop making parts and say you can't even pay them to fix it.
[19:52]	IsambardPrince	Then all those disgusting $100,000 electric trucks that someone financed with interest will lose 100% of their value.
[19:52]	IsambardPrince	This is pretty much the opposite of those "long tail" manufacturing runs like the Ford Crown Victoria, where they haven't even been made for fleets since 2010 and you can find replacement parts for anything.
[19:52]	IsambardPrince	When you make many millions and it's dead simple, there's going to be parts and lots of places to service it.
[19:52]	IsambardPrince	When there were 12,000 cybertrucks sold every year for several years, you're not going to get any sort of service after the sale or longevity. You just lose all your money including tens of thousands in interest and you need another vehicle.
[19:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	some companies and service bought FLEETS of these
[19:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	maybe buybacks involved
[19:54]	IsambardPrince	Probably not.
[19:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	like companies that bought WINDOWS PHONE in bulk
[19:54]	IsambardPrince	Yes, there's some Cybertruck fleets in Chicago.
[19:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	i see
[19:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	well, we will always remember the brick-through-windows viral videos
[19:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	of mr. drug-user
● Nov 06
[20:02]	TR News	Russia: Critical newspaper 'Novaya Gazeta' to close https://www.dw.com/en/russia-critical-newspaper-novaya-gazeta-to-close/a-79805693
[20:02]	TR Bot	 Russia: Critical newspaper 'Novaya Gazeta' to close
[20:03]	TR News	Russia's giant new radar in Kaliningrad raises alarm in NATO https://www.dw.com/en/russia-s-giant-new-radar-in-kaliningrad-raises-alarm-in-nato/a-79797815
[20:03]	TR Bot	 Russia's giant new radar in Kaliningrad raises alarm in NATO
[20:03]	TR News	attacks on emergency alert apps https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-russia-report-hacking-attacks-on-emergency-alert-apps/live-79825079
[20:03]	TR Bot	 Ukraine: At least 26 killed in Russian strikes on aid center
[20:04]	MinceR	no one should ask The Closed Group about what is unix anyway
[20:04]	MinceR	they'll certify anything if they're given enough money
[20:04]	MinceR	and that is the only criterion
[20:05]	TR News	Cyberattack wipes cloud data at major Russian hosting provider Beget https://therecord.media/russia-cyberattack-beget-cloud
[20:05]	TR Bot	 Cyberattack wipes cloud data at major Russian hosting provider Beget | The Record from Recorded Future News
[20:05]	TR News	Pro-Russian hackers claim supermarket cooling attacks https://cphpost.dk/2026-11-05/news/round-up/pro-russian-hackers-claim-supermarket-cooling-attacks/
[20:05]	TR Bot	stream 1 was not closed cleanly: PROTOCOL_ERROR (err 1) ( status 0 @ https://cphpost.dk/2026-11-05/news/round-up/pro-russian-hackers-claim-supermarket-cooling-attacks/ )
[20:06]	TR News	https
[20:06]	TR News	Starlink Reportedly Tried to Upsell Ukraine on New Plan After Throttling Service https://truthout.org/articles/starlink-reportedly-tried-to-upsell-ukraine-on-new-plan-after-throttling-service/
[20:06]	TR Bot	 Starlink Reportedly Tried to Upsell Ukraine on New Plan After Throttling Service | Truthout
[20:07]	TR News	House Majority https://xkcd.com/3320/
[20:07]	TR Bot	House Majority
[20:07]	TR News	Elevators https://xkcd.com/3319/
[20:07]	TR Bot	Elevators
[20:07]	TR News	Earth Sized Planets https://xkcd.com/3318/
[20:07]	TR Bot	Earth Sized Planets
[20:08]	TR News	Gravitational Square Wave https://xkcd.com/3317/
[20:08]	TR Bot	Gravitational Square Wave
[20:08]	TR News	Microsoft and Google front group FSFE at SFSCON 2026 https://fsfe.org/news/2026/news-20261105-01.en.html"
[20:08]	TR Bot	 Digital sovereignty in action: meet the FSFE at SFSCON 2026 - FSFE
[20:09]	MinceR	06 210643 < techrights-news> Starlink Reportedly Tried to Upsell Ukraine on New Plan After Throttling Service
[20:09]	MinceR	hilarious
[20:09]	MinceR	"see how shitty and unreliable our "service" is and how we aid your enemies? surely it's worth more of your money!"
[20:10]	TR News	Release: Artix Linux 20261102 https://artixlinux.org/news.php#Official_ISO_release_2026-11
[20:10]	TR Bot	 Artix Linux - News archives
[20:10]	TR News	Distribution Release: Omarchy 4.5.0 https://distrowatch.com/13028
[20:10]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/13028 )
[20:11]	TR News	Ludora 45.0 out but outsourced to Microsoft (Github) https://distrowatch.com/13022
[20:11]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/13022 )
[20:11]	schestowitz[TR2]	up-selling
[20:11]	TR News	 (NEW):  NebiOS X 10.3 Anniversary Update is now available! https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/NebiOS_X_10_3_Anniversary_Update_is_now_available.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/NebiOS_X_10_3_Anniversary_Update_is_now_available.gmi 
[20:11]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines NebiOS X 10.3 Anniversary Update is now available!
[20:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	up goes the rocket
[20:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	pay now
[20:12]	schestowitz[TR2]	or...
[20:13]	MinceR	or switch to several providers who aren't nazis
[20:14]	TR News	Bazzite 45 is here! https://universal-blue.discourse.group/t/bazzite-45-is-here/12702
[20:14]	TR Bot	 Bazzite 45 is here! - Bazzite - Universal Blue
[20:17]	TR News	 (NEW):  RakuOS 45 "Chojiro": package layers, Fedora 45, and a new way to keep your apps https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/RakuOS_45_Chojiro_package_layers_Fedora_45_and_a_new_way_to_kee.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/RakuOS_45_Chojiro_package_layers_Fedora_45_and_a_new_way_to_kee.gmi 
[20:17]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines RakuOS 45 "Chojiro": package layers, Fedora 45, and a new way to keep your apps
[20:17]	TR News	"Leap 16.1 did not ship on the same day as SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 16.1, as stated in this article. SUSE is expect to ship SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 16.1 this month." https://news.opensuse.org/2026/11/03/leap-unites-traditional-and-immutable/
[20:17]	TR Bot	 Leap 16.1 Unites Traditional and Immutable Linux in One Release - openSUSE News
[20:18]	TR News	"There isnt anything particularly special about the images themselves but this comes with a full set of updates around the system that happened in this year." https://chimera-linux.org/news/2026/11/new-images.html
[20:18]	TR Bot	 New images
[20:19]	TR News	More choice and developing tooling https://aerynos.com/blog/2026/11/02/more-choice-and-developing-tooling/
[20:19]	TR Bot	choice and developing tooling | aerynOS
[20:20]	TR News	 (NEW):  aerynOS 2026.11 Is Out with GNOME 51, KDE Plasma 6.8, COSMIC 1.11, and Budgie 10.10 https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/02/aerynOS_2026_11_Is_Out_with_GNOME_51_KDE_Plasma_6_8_COSMIC_1_11.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/02/aerynOS_2026_11_Is_Out_with_GNOME_51_KDE_Plasma_6_8_COSMIC_1_11.gmi 
[20:20]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines aerynOS 2026.11 Is Out with GNOME 51, KDE Plasma 6.8, COSMIC 1.11, and Budgie 10.10
[20:22]	TR News	 (NEW):  Sculpt OS release 26.10 https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Sculpt_OS_release_26_10.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/11/06/Sculpt_OS_release_26_10.gmi 
[20:22]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Sculpt OS release 26.10
[20:22]	TR News	Linux Lite 8.2 Final Released https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=10075
[20:22]	TR Bot	 Linux Lite 8.2 Final Released
[20:23]	TR News	 (NEW):  Linux Lite 8.2 Released with Linux Kernel 7.3, Based on Ubuntu 26.04 LTS https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/31/Linux_Lite_8_2_Released_with_Linux_Kernel_7_3_Based_on_Ubuntu_2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/31/Linux_Lite_8_2_Released_with_Linux_Kernel_7_3_Based_on_Ubuntu_2.gmi 
[20:23]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Linux Lite 8.2 Released with Linux Kernel 7.3, Based on Ubuntu 26.04 LTS
[20:26]	andy	Android and iPhone dev was something I did three or four times with different startups, in the 2010s everything was "you need to build an app for that". I led or worked in teams making smartphone apps and it was horrible. All bolierplate, licenses, arbitrary changes to a moving target, subterfuge with Apple, just horrible.
[20:28]	andy	This kid I interviewed just asys "make me an app that does X" and it kinda does and mostly works. Code by numbers. But that's the showcase for slop machines and people say they want it (probably) 
[20:28]	andy	what I was curious about is whether this gives power to a new generation who might not be patient enough to work on learning and practicing
[20:29]	andy	but like Straustrup said it prolly gives them power to shoot their foot off
[20:29]	andy	he was a really passionate guy all the same, good to hear that side of it
[20:30]	andy	amy be the sort of person whose positive fuck-big-tech attitude is enough to build a team of more level-headed sorts 
[20:30]	andy	at least he's smart enough to know he needs a lawyer :)
[20:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	it cannot be "open source"
[20:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	slop is not copyrightable
[20:38]	TR News	Techrights IBM Compels Workers - Even at Red Hat - to Become "Retired-ish" https://techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/IBM_Compels_Workers_Even_at_Red_Hat_to_Become_Retired_ish.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/IBM_Compels_Workers_Even_at_Red_Hat_to_Become_Retired_ish.gmi 
[20:38]	TR Bot	 Techrights IBM Compels Workers - Even at Red Hat - to Become "Retired-ish"
[20:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	andy: are you feeling "Retired-ish"?
[20:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	seems layoffs are now "parachutes"
[20:39]	andy	I think he was joking about the 4 million BYW
[20:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	"buyouts"
[20:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	"stay here and be abused by IBM"
[20:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	with PIPs
[20:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	or become  "Retired-ish"
[20:39]	andy	Have you seen Withnail and I Roy, I'm "resting"
[20:40]	andy	actors, philosophers and revolutionaries rest from time to time
[20:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	Withnail and I  - did not hear of it
[20:40]	schestowitz[TR2]	let alone "seen" it
[20:41]	MinceR	"No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable bird, the Norwegian Blue, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!"
[20:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	you are missing out on all the MS Outlook messages in uni about the new "hey hi" features
[20:41]	andy	Don;t nother it's a silly 1970s film about badly behaved British actors, full of drunkenness
[20:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	which are freely offered through the new GAFAM/US partnership
[20:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	i was not born yet
[20:42]	andy	Oh noes! I do miss my IMPORTANT MICROSOFT UPDATES!
[20:43]	TR News	IBM "Massive RA in q4 In Sales org. Probably mostly hitting marketing after the merger earlier this year. Never made any sense. Only point was to destroy marketing which theyll now do. Ive heard US and for once Ive heard india is targeted too. Emea probably in the new year. Happy holidays from IBM." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m6s995r2
[20:43]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m6s995r2 )
[20:43]	andy	That's right MincR :) My wife glued me to the perch
[20:43]	MinceR	microslop updates are so important they even have to be installed immediately when you think your laptop is suspended
[20:43]	MinceR	microslop had intHell break suspend for this
[20:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	updates for security
[20:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	all the securities, andy 
[20:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	http://techrights.org/n/2026/09/29/Computers_Freeze_Because_of_UEFI_Restricted_Boot.shtml
[20:43]	TR Bot	 Techrights Computers Freeze Because of UEFI Restricted Boot
[20:43]	MinceR	and, of course, intHell obliged
[20:44]	andy	I gave it almost 40 years in the Unis, not a bad stint in the trenches. Worked out the other day I probably got to know and help 2 or 3 thousand students
[20:45]	andy	many still email me to say cheers and thanks
[20:45]	andy	that's a nice feeling and achievement
[20:46]	andy	but I still have nightmares about the administrators
[20:46]	andy	cardigan wearing Karens from HR
[20:46]	andy	clueless deanlets
[20:47]	andy	new training and awareness initiatives
[20:47]	andy	they hated me :)
[20:48]	andy	I told them exactly what was what at every opportunity, and outlasted them all because most admins were just part of the revolving door of incompetent "professional management"
[20:49]	andy	so I'm very happily out of "academia" now
[20:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	academia is 1980s or 90s
[20:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	it changed
[20:52]	andy	Happy 20th for techrights BTW!!!!
[20:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	thanks, in 3 hours
[20:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	from what i saw
[20:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	as a postdoc
[20:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	and as student
[20:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	and wrote about in TR
[20:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	many times
[20:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	things get worse over time
[20:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	as the cash overcomes all the rest
[20:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	when in interviews for another RA position
[20:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	they had some business person
[20:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	assessing me
[20:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	they wanted to see $ signs
[20:53]	andy	yes you're right, it changed, but lots of us never knew it changed and didn't get the memo, we carried on with an ideal, believeing in science and all that hifalootin elitist stuff
[20:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	and the lady who was an officer for that had 0% understanding of the technical matters
[20:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	it was just lime,
[20:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	"how can we profit from you?"
[20:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	this is not what RAs are meant to do
[20:54]	andy	Well it seems we've connected to a resistance sell in Georgia Tech
[20:54]	andy	cell
[20:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://techrights.org/search/query?search=Search&query1=haidt&set1=any&links=1
[20:54]	TR Bot	 Techrights Search
[20:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	see the later ones
[20:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	Facebook libbied scholars
[20:54]	schestowitz[TR2]	to discredit haidt
[20:54]	andy	associates of RMS 
[20:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	because his research went against social control media
[20:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	and now
[20:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	even genuine critics of haidt
[20:55]	schestowitz[TR2]	all look like FB paid shills
[20:55]	andy	yes I saw about the Facebook smear campaign on Haidt
[20:55]	andy	not surprised
[20:55]	andy	I do recommend the Social Reckoning, the actress plays Francis Hagen really well
[20:56]	parsifal	 Russia: Critical newspaper 'Novaya Gazeta' to close https://www.dw.com/en/russia-critical-newspaper-novaya-gazeta-to-close/a-79805693
[20:56]	TR Bot	 Russia: Critical newspaper 'Novaya Gazeta' to close
[20:56]	parsifal	 ^these are like an open umbrella after the rain has already passed, this news is over a week old
[20:56]	schestowitz[TR2]	 was catching up
[20:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	navalny is never mentiooned anymor\
[20:57]	andy	beware Bulgarians carrying umbrellas
[20:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	I chedked every day
[20:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	for years already
[20:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	people forgot and moved on
[20:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	same for 'Novaya Gazeta'
[20:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	and the hangarian tv/press person who was rape-murdered
[20:57]	schestowitz[TR2]	*bulgarian
[20:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	i no longer remember her name
[20:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	and that was just about 5 years agoi
[20:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	time for a night job in 10 mins
[20:58]	schestowitz[TR2]	*jog
[20:59]	andy	Wictoria Marinova?
[20:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	Marinova, yes
[20:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	violated, then murdered
[20:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	for pissing off evil people
[20:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	killed 
[20:59]	schestowitz[TR2]	2018
● Nov 06
[21:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	8 years ago
[21:00]	andy	BTW I read that good post from Manchester Eveing News by Sarah Lester
[21:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	"The first episode of the show on September 30 included with investigative journalists Dimitar Stoyanov and Attila Biro, about an investigation of alleged fraud with EU funds linked to big businessmen and politicians"
[21:00]	andy	about the corrosion of big tech on small papers
[21:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	Maybe the puppy breaker and his serial strngling manianc from microsoft want to rape me in a coma
[21:00]	schestowitz[TR2]	and then kill
[21:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	since there is a known fetish for doing women in a coma
[21:01]	IsambardPrince	Andy Diaz
[21:01]	IsambardPrince	
[21:01]	IsambardPrince	
[21:01]	IsambardPrince	Follow
[21:01]	IsambardPrince	a day ago
[21:01]	IsambardPrince	
[21:01]	IsambardPrince	Taco Bell's voice AI, built with a company called Omilia, now takes drive-thru orders at more than 890 restaurants across 38 states. That makes it one of the largest robot rollouts in fast food. The system adapts to each store's menu and stock in real time, and Taco Bell says its transaction times match or beat human order takers.
[21:01]	IsambardPrince	Taco Bell is not alone. Wendy's FreshAI already runs in more than 500 restaurants. McDonald's is piloting Google Cloud voice AI at about 120 sites, after ending its IBM trial in 2024. The speaker box is being replaced chain by chain.
[21:01]	IsambardPrince	Notice who was never consulted. Not the customers talking to the box, and not the workers who used to answer it. The count just keeps climbing, store by store, while the job quietly changes underneath the people still doing it.
[21:01]	andy	Jimmy Savile style?
[21:01]	IsambardPrince	Be honest, when the speaker answers at your drive-thru, can you still tell whether it is a person? 
[21:01]	IsambardPrince	---
[21:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	andy: he did kids
[21:01]	IsambardPrince	Meanwhile, it costs $15 to eat at Taco Bell, vs. $8.99 to get a huge burrito at the actual Mexican restaurant.
[21:01]	schestowitz[TR2]	the serial strangler talked of kids with no hair
[21:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	which made him _sound_ like a pedo
[21:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	but no evidence of pedophilia there
[21:02]	IsambardPrince	He probably is.
[21:02]	MinceR	i don't go to the drive-thru, i order and pay in app and use table service
[21:02]	IsambardPrince	They socialized with at least one pedo.
[21:02]	IsambardPrince	Peter Bright.
[21:02]	andy	Everyone knew that about Savile at BBC, for years and years
[21:02]	schestowitz[TR2]	https://techrights.org/wiki/Peter_Bright/
[21:02]	TR Bot	 Peter Bright
[21:02]	andy	but they all said "you can't talk about it"
[21:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	puppy breaker made a dumb tweet 2 hours ago
[21:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	in which he tacitiy admits 
[21:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	many bad things
[21:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	about him and lozza
[21:03]	andy	gotta watch Have I Old Git News For You, bbl
[21:03]	schestowitz[TR2]	but i'll not give him clues here, I'll keep the beef for later
[21:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	GAFAM likes to hide behidn bad peopole
[21:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	why?
[21:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	ther usual
[21:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	they are very eay to throw under the bus
[21:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	when they are no longer "useful"
[21:04]	schestowitz[TR2]	that's what happened with pedo Peter Bright
[21:11]	parsifal	 <andy> beware Bulgarians carrying umbrellas -> Yes, this, too, is a product of the Bulgarian genius, unfortunately... Alongside the constructive and creative side -> which gave rise to things like the Glagolitic script, the Cyrillic script, and the computer, there also exists the side responsible for the umbrella that took the life of Georgi Markov on Waterloo Bridge...
[21:11]	parsifal	<schestowitz[TR2]> and the hangarian tv/press person who was rape-murdered; <schestowitz[TR2]> *bulgarian -> There are many, its not just one. "Russian practices" are popular here. Milen Tsvetkov also, among others. There are also those who have suffered severely -> such as the journalist Anna Zarkova, who was doused with acid.
[21:32]	admfubar	https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/fake-security-tools-on-github-push-backdoors-and-infostealers/
[21:32]	TR Bot	 Fake security tools on GitHub push backdoors and infostealers
[21:35]	admfubar	https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/qnap-says-hackers-breaching-nas-devices-in-plex2shell-attacks/
[21:35]	TR Bot	 QNAP says hackers breaching NAS devices in Plex2Shell attacks
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[21:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	parsifal: that latter one did not become international news here
[21:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	i guess you need to be raped and murdered to get noticed
[21:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	"just" being atatcked by acid is not enough
[21:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	btw, GGG (Garrett, Graveley, Gas the Jews) did allude to acid attacks
[21:38]	schestowitz[TR2]	Garrett even provoked me
[21:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	by putting "acid attack" on some TV
[21:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	then posting it to social control media
[21:39]	schestowitz[TR2]	very, very very sick people
[21:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	apropos sick
[21:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	graveley was    in AAA
[21:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	AA
[21:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	he is an addict
[21:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	Garrett told us here in IRC he had sough profesional psycho help
[21:41]	IsambardPrince	schestowitz[TR2], A $100,000 bank loan with interest drops to $0 in value in under 5 years.
[21:41]	schestowitz[TR2]	and "Gas the Jews" Lozza says autism is a thing
[21:41]	IsambardPrince	(The Cybertruck.)
[21:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	i guess it makes it OK to say "gas to jews"
[21:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	wwhen you are autistic
[21:42]	IsambardPrince	Lozza displays more signs of being a schizophrenic than autistic.
[21:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	that's the kanye west defense
[21:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	you know autistic p[eople
[21:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	they all love hitler
[21:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	all of them
[21:42]	schestowitz[TR2]	or something...
[21:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	just got some cards and flowers
[21:43]	IsambardPrince	I saw an old man dressed up like a woman get on the L the other day.
[21:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	for the TR work
[21:43]	IsambardPrince	My partner laughed at the disgusted look on my face.
[21:43]	IsambardPrince	Disgusted/horrified.
[21:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	not all transvestites are antisocial
[21:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	you cannot generalise
[21:43]	IsambardPrince	It didn't look like a woman, it looked like a halloween costume.
[21:43]	schestowitz[TR2]	could be a polite person 
[21:44]	IsambardPrince	I doubt it.
[21:44]	IsambardPrince	Serious psych problems.
[21:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	don't prejudge
[21:44]	IsambardPrince	If anything like Lozza or Keith, probably Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
[21:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	prejudice does not help 
[21:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	there are many people with mental issues who are super-nice
[21:44]	schestowitz[TR2]	and being like that does not imply antisocial behaviours
[21:45]	IsambardPrince	Yeah, people see you have mental problems, they use it as an excuse to be abusive....to you.
[21:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	no, soma autstic people are in ou community
[21:45]	schestowitz[TR2]	and they are nice
[21:46]	schestowitz[TR2]	and can work with other people
[21:46]	admfubar	sums up apple users..  "Apple might make this a GUI setting, but if I were them, Id keep it  this way. Make the people without fun in their souls use the Terminal  command."... https://support.apple.com/en-us/149248
[21:46]	TR Bot	 About the illuminated Apple logo on MacBook Pro with PROLED XDR Display - Apple Support
[21:46]	MinceR	:>
[21:47]	IsambardPrince	Lozza is so crazy his brain works like a pinball machine with the slap tilt sensor being stuck on.
[21:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	"The Apple logo behind the built-in display is illuminated whenever the Mac is awake. It automatically dims or brightens based on the brightness level of the built-in screen and the lighting conditions detected by the computers ambient light sensor. For all screen-brightness levels, the Apple logo will be dimmer in a dim room and brighter in a bright room. "
[21:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	sudo defaults write com.apple.CoreBrightness LEBacklightMode -int 0
[21:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	useless light
[21:47]	IsambardPrince	Just random synapse firing from organic mental disease and drugs.
[21:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	in gnu/linxu there are also commands for keyboard lights
[21:47]	schestowitz[TR2]	much simple
[21:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	xset led 3
[21:48]	schestowitz[TR2]	xset -led 3
[21:49]	schestowitz[TR2]	IsambardPrince: it's not pinball without pin and ball
[21:50]	admfubar	https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/gm-pay-220-million-settle-allegations-it-violated-consumers-privacy-2026-10-29/
[21:50]	TR Bot	( status 401 @ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/gm-pay-220-million-settle-allegations-it-violated-consumers-privacy-2026-10-29/ )
[21:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	cars are not compatible with privacy since over a decade ago
[21:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	around 2009 a ford CEO (iirC) said if you do something illegal in a car
[21:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	they would already know about it
[21:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	and become informants
[21:51]	schestowitz[TR2]	he didn't mean that as a joke
[21:51]	MinceR	our ford
[21:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	they sell themselves as police
[21:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	companies as police
[21:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	they collecty incriminating data
[21:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	and then use cops as "meat proixies"
[21:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	against clients or customers they don't like
[21:52]	MinceR	proud owner of the Order of the German Eagle 1st Class award
[21:52]	schestowitz[TR2]	this is the direction society has taken
[21:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/12/my_reaction_to.html
[21:53]	TR Bot	Reaction to Eric Schmidt - Schneier on Security
[21:53]	schestowitz[TR2]	"Privacy protects us from abuses by those in power, even if we're doing nothing wrong at the time of surveillance."
[21:55]	TR News	someone said replaced "patents"; replaced by "software patents" maybe? "Perhaps close with a paragraph about current and near-future writing goals?" https://techrights.org/n/2026/11/06/20_Years_of_Techrights.shtml
[21:55]	TR Bot	 Techrights 20 Years of Techrights
[21:59]	admfubar	https://databreaches.net/2026/11/06/the-next-target-for-data-breach-lawsuits-law-firms-that-represent-breached-parties/
[21:59]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://databreaches.net/2026/11/06/the-next-target-for-data-breach-lawsuits-law-firms-that-represent-breached-parties/ )
● Nov 06
[22:02]	parsifal	<schestowitz[TR2]> parsifal: that latter one did not become international news here -> "International news" is full of trivial, small-town gossip, schestowitz[TR2], the important and substantial matters have never been, and never will be covered there.
[22:02]	parsifal	Zarkova (Anna Zarkova -> https://www.iwmf.org/community/anna-zarkova/) is an incredibly brave woman worthy of admiration, both in terms of her character and as a professional. 
[22:02]	TR Bot	 Anna Zarkova - IWMF
[22:02]	parsifal	I dont know her personally, but I happened to meet her at an ocular prosthetics clinic after she lost one of her eyes as a result of the attack. An incredible woman m(_ _)m
[22:03]	parsifal	I suggest we change the subject, it brings back unpleasant memories and leaves a bitter taste in my mouth ;)
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[22:15]	admfubar	https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/11/google-forcing-ai-students-bs
[22:15]	TR Bot	 Google Forcing AI on Students Is BS | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[22:16]	admfubar	https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/10/fighting-doges-data-grab-effector-3819
[22:16]	TR Bot	 Fighting DOGE's Data Grab | EFFector 38.19 | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[22:17]	admfubar	https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/10/new-records-obtained-eff-expose-more-problems-medicares-ai-experiment
[22:17]	TR Bot	 New Records Obtained by EFF Expose More Problems with Medicares AI Experiment | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[22:18]	admfubar	https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/10/french-courts-site-blocking-orders-drive-quad9-out-france
[22:18]	TR Bot	 French Courts Site-Blocking Orders Drive Quad9 Out Of France | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[22:21]	admfubar	https://epic.org/new-york-citys-click-to-cancel-rule-goes-into-effect/
[22:21]	TR Bot	 New York Citys Click to Cancel Rule Goes Into Effect EPIC Electronic Privacy Information Center
[22:21]	admfubar	https://epic.org/on-the-road-to-risk-connected-cars-put-drivers-privacy-and-safety-in-harms-way/
[22:21]	TR Bot	 On the Road to Risk: Connected Cars Put Drivers Privacy and Safety in Harms Way EPIC Electronic Privacy Information Center
[22:22]	IsambardPrince	I really don't like smartphones. I don't like what they cost, I don't like what they've done to people.
[22:22]	IsambardPrince	I first noticed the problem around 2013 when I went on a date, this person had an iPhone and completely ignored me, wouldn't stop playing Candy Crush, and expected me to pay for his meal.
[22:22]	IsambardPrince	Then I made the mistake of marrying an iPhone addict. Despite me marching through Hell to take care of him for years due to many problems that he dumped on me, he was horribly addicted to his iPhone. He barely ever looked up from it. He had no real life, only an iPhone.
[22:22]	IsambardPrince	When I tried to get him to come out of the bedroom and get off the iPhone for a while, sometimes he would hit me and compulsively go back to TikTok or something.
[22:22]	IsambardPrince	Eventually, he demanded a divorce, not as a serious threat, but to try to control me and make me feel bad (he had many ways of doing this, but he thought that he could use this to toy with my emotions and get me to suffer. Then when I actually left him he panicked and tried to start negotiating when it was months too late for this.
[22:22]	IsambardPrince	One day, the saddest part will be when these people spent their whole lives giving thousands of dollars to Apple every year, only to look up and realize that these devices cut them off from real people, made everyone give up and leave them, they have nobody that really loves them, their followers on "social" media will not support them in old age, and they're completely alone and staring into an abyss.
[22:27]	admfubar	https://www.firstpost.com/tech/apples-hidden-iphone-word-list-blocks-thousands-of-phrases-including-dictator-trump-and-sleepy-joe-report-14058424.html
[22:27]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.firstpost.com/tech/apples-hidden-iphone-word-list-blocks-thousands-of-phrases-including-dictator-trump-and-sleepy-joe-report-14058424.html )
[22:47]	admfubar	https://futurism.com/future-society/andrew-garfield-sam-altman-lied
[22:47]	TR Bot	 Andrew Garfield Says Sam Altman Straight Up Lied About Meeting Him
[22:49]	admfubar	https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/kids-hooked-ai-worse-mental-health
[22:49]	TR Bot	 Kids Hooked on AI Chatbots Are Showing Dramatically Worse Mental Health
[22:50]	admfubar	and we laugh like hell when the walls cave in... https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/sam-altman-reverses-position-ram
[22:50]	TR Bot	 Panicked Sam Altman Reverses Position as Walls Close In, Says People Should Be Able to Own RAM
[22:58]	admfubar	no not smarter than the brightest, just smarter than you sam... https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/sam-altman-crows-that-ai-is-now-smarter-than-the-brightest-human-scientists
[22:58]	TR Bot	 Sam Altman Crows That AI Is Now Smarter Than the Brightest Human Scientists
[22:59]	admfubar	https://futurism.com/future-society/ai-hurting-labor-employment-automation-software
[22:59]	TR Bot	 There Are Now Growing Signs That AI Is Hurting Employment in the Job Market
● Nov 06
[23:01]	admfubar	goin' nuclear https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-data-center-23-atomic-bombs
[23:02]	TR Bot	 New AI Data Center Is So Huge That It'll Generate the Heat of 23 Atomic Bombs Every Single Day
[23:04]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, https://scontent-cph2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/890379233_122148909393027675_6605248551059081661_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_tt6&cstp=mx1024x559&ctp=s1024x559&_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=4jj5XABEOcAQ7kNvwEQ_BmE&_nc_oc=AdrX_1-xcFIUBPCIAuIGKESSx9wr4T-JP64Kh6XGRFIPbfgwu36_ar6jlqGwW8OvHok&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-cph2-1.xx&_nc_gid=iY_IwYyfDtThqWnmBFgI4g&_nc_ss=7b2a8&oh=00_AQRL0Pz2nJ6twDDcNNQ4jsM46NmV6FcT9gDvsHgUqW9EUA&oe
[23:04]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://scontent-cph2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/890379233_122148909393027675_6605248551059081661_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_tt6&cstp=mx1024x559&ctp=s1024x559&_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=4jj5XABEOcAQ7kNvwEQ_BmE&_nc_oc=AdrX_1-xcFIUBPCIAuIGKESSx9wr4T-JP64Kh6XGRFIPbfgwu36_ar6jlqGwW8OvHok&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-cph2-1.xx&_nc_gid=iY_IwYyfDtThqWnmBFgI4g&_nc_ss=7b2a8&oh=00_AQRL0Pz2nJ6twDDcNNQ4jsM46NmV6FcT9gDvsHg ...
[23:04]	IsambardPrince	=6AF415DD
[23:04]	IsambardPrince	Ugh
[23:04]	MinceR	ugh indeed
[23:04]	IsambardPrince	Anyway, I made a thing to commemorate the cybertruck.
[23:04]	IsambardPrince	With Nano Banana.
[23:10]	IsambardPrince	MinceR, I decided to make a Mississippi Pot Roast. I changed the recipe a bit to account for cooking the roast directly from frozen.
[23:10]	IsambardPrince	Didn't have much choice. The chuck roasts are normall $9.99 a pound, they went on sale for $4.99 a pound and I froze several.
[23:13]	IsambardPrince	The biggest design problem the Wii fixed with the Gamecube was the two pools of RAM at different speeds. I would have preferred they just release a better Gamecube than have that weird controller. Mostly because it's going to make emulation difficult forever. The Wiimote was definitely copy protection.
[23:15]	MinceR	i think they were trying to offer something other platforms don't have
[23:17]	admfubar	https://futurism.com/advanced-transport/uber-taxi-cabs-waymo-avs-workers
[23:17]	TR Bot	 After Uber Destroyed Taxi Cabs, Drivers Now Face the Existential Threat of Self-Driving Cars
[23:17]	MinceR	existential, as in, they're getting run over or run into?
[23:17]	admfubar	run over
[23:18]	admfubar	https://futurism.com/future-society/investor-economy-collapse-ai-raoul-pal
[23:18]	TR Bot	 Investor Says We're Rapidly Approaching the Point At Which Economic Systems Collapse Under the Weight of AI
[23:20]	admfubar	it started... they will kill us all!!!... https://futurism.com/robots-and-machines/delivery-robot-car-accident-injuries-estonia
[23:20]	TR Bot	 Delivery Robot Causes Car Accident With Nine Injuries
[23:20]	admfubar	https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/protestors-microsoft-data-center-construction
[23:20]	TR Bot	 Hundreds of Protestors Bust Into Construction Site to Stop Microsoft Data Center
[23:21]	MinceR	IsambardPrince: that pickup looks a lot better than the cybertruck
[23:21]	MinceR	it's probably better built too
[23:21]	admfubar	in the words of Nelson.. "HA HA!"... https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/google-starved-out-publishers-ai-mode-revenue
[23:21]	TR Bot	 Google Starved Out Publishers With AI Search. Now, Its Pivot Is Blowing Up in Its Face.
[23:23]	admfubar	https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/elon-musk-real-estate-local-residents-sue-data-center-noise
[23:23]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk's Real Estate Goons Threaten Local Residents Not to Sue Over Deafening Data Center Noise
[23:26]	admfubar	https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/sam-altman-hates-local-ai-models-computers
[23:26]	TR Bot	 Sam Altman Absolutely Hates the Idea of People Running Their Own AI Models at Home, Argues They Shouldn't Own Computers
[23:27]	admfubar	just like elon...  https://futurism.com/future-society/elon-musk-saving-money-pointless
[23:27]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk, Who is Hoarding Nearly a Trillion Dollars, Says Saving Money Is "Pointless"
[23:27]	MinceR	sam altman sounds a lot like a communist lately
[23:29]	admfubar	solution... stop breathing!... https://futurism.com/science-energy/air-breathing-damage-brain
[23:29]	TR Bot	 It Turns Out That the Air You're Breathing Is Doing Irreparable Damage to Your Brain
[23:37]	MinceR	:>
[23:37]	MinceR	don't drink the water and don't breathe the air
[23:47]	MinceR	(cat) https://imgur.com/gallery/luna-stella-gywswzd
[23:47]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://imgur.com/gallery/luna-stella-gywswzd )