●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Thursday, January 07, 2021 ●● ● Jan 07 [00:02] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:09] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [00:21] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [00:37] MinceR https://www.theonion.com/serbia-deploys-peacekeeping-forces-to-u-s-1819565829 [00:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com | Serbia Deploys Peacekeeping Forces To U.S. ● Jan 07 [01:28] *genr8_ is now known as CheckTheBoxes ● Jan 07 [02:56] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) ● Jan 07 [03:07] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [03:08] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [03:10] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [03:22] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-238-156.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights ● Jan 07 [04:46] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [04:51] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [04:51] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-238-156.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [04:56] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) ● Jan 07 [05:00] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Call-out culture is toxic, disgusting, and vile!) [05:00] MinceR https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-crypto/msg33291.html [05:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.spinics.net | Linux Cryptography [PATCH v2 0/5] crypto: Speck support [05:24] cybrNaut Amazon data breach leaks 100 million credit cards, and this seems to only get exposure in India: https://web.archive.org/web/20210106150051/https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/news/over-100-million-debit-and-credit-card-users-data-has-been-leaked-online-from-payments-processor-juspay-amazon-and-swiggy/articleshow/80096472.cms [05:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Amazon and Swiggy has reported a data leak of over 100 million debit and credit cardholders [05:26] cybrNaut i know Amazon has bought some big media company, but i don't see how that could explain the widespread under reporting. What am I missing? [05:26] cybrNaut Such a big leak deserves a big spotlight [05:27] cybrNaut apparently this also happened in 2018: https://www.medianama.com/2018/07/223-data-buckets-with-personal-info-from-swiggy-health-startup-and-others-exposed/ [05:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Data buckets with personal info from Swiggy, health startup and others exposed | MediaNama [05:31] kingoffrance it makes everyone saying digital "cash" is safer look funny, of course it is not going to be reported; or, they can spin it "our new system will be secure, unlike this legacy credit card stuff" [05:32] MinceR well, the legacy debit/credit card stuff definitely has its hair-raising aspects [05:32] MinceR and then they added NFC [05:32] MinceR but at least now there are NFC ATMs that don't get to swallow my card due to their shitty programming [05:32] MinceR so i guess it's not all bad [05:49] schestowitz__ digital payments get harder [05:50] schestowitz__ when you need to deal with fraud [05:50] schestowitz__ quick to pay [05:50] schestowitz__ a [05:50] schestowitz__ pain to correct [05:50] schestowitz__ when things go wrong [05:50] schestowitz__ yesterday I had to receive 5 verification calls to approve and 'easy' digital payment [05:54] MinceR recently i had to try a payment something like 4 times until it finally went through [05:56] schestowitz__ I had to try twice [05:56] schestowitz__ and I don't think this enhanced real security [05:57] schestowitz__ [23:12] when you see it, you turn 365 degrees and moonwalk away [05:57] schestowitz__ Do that 70 times [05:58] schestowitz__ than you do it right [05:58] schestowitz__ 5x70 [05:58] schestowitz__ 72 times actually [05:58] schestowitz__ *then it's done right [05:59] schestowitz__ why is it called moonwalk anyway? [05:59] schestowitz__ moon walking has more to do with 6 times lower gravity force ● Jan 07 [06:01] schestowitz__ https://www.nlg.org/nlg-condemns-attempt-by-fascist-mob-incited-by-trump-to-overturn-election-complicity-by-law-enforcement/ [06:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nlg.org | NLG Condemns Attempt by Fascist Mob Incited by Trump to Overturn Election, Complicity by Law Enforcement | National Lawyers Guild [06:02] cybrNaut i use Tor, a forwarding email address, and a billing address that is far from home when placing orders-- which often get canceled/refused for some reason. [06:02] cybrNaut sometimes they demand that I 3-way call the bank so they can hear the bank verify me [06:05] cybrNaut merchants are getting quite skiddish these days.. yet at the same time data brokers are getting more intrusive, which forces smart shoppers to do the things i do that scares merchants [06:07] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [06:08] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [06:12] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [06:18] *cybrNaut- (~cybrNaut@rrcs-67-53-148-69.west.biz.rr.com) has joined #techrights [06:18] *cybrNaut has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [06:34] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [06:38] schestowitz__ vallor: BT sent me this link: https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-telecoms-and-internet/advice-for-consumers/broadband-uso-need-to-know [06:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ofcom.org.uk | Your right to request a decent broadband service: What you need to know - Ofcom [06:43] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [06:51] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights ● Jan 07 [07:09] schestowitz__ vZS1: another one https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/cryptocurrency-holders-targeted-with-intrusive-new-access-tool/article33510428.ece [07:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thehindu.com | Cryptocurrency holders targeted with intrusive new access tool - The Hindu [07:09] schestowitz__ "trojanised apps for Windows, Linux and Mac versions" [07:09] schestowitz__ So.... errrr.. don't install that? [07:14] schestowitz__ https://howiehawkins.us/release-howie-hawkins-comdemns-right-wing-invasion-of-the-us-capitol/ [07:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-howiehawkins.us | RELEASE: Howie Hawkins Condemns Right Wing Invasion of the US Capitol | Howie Hawkins for President | Angela Walker for Vice President [07:18] schestowitz__ "contrast with the overwhelming policy presence and use of force against antiwar and anti police brutality demonstrations" [07:21] Techrights-sec https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/opinion/impeach-trump.html [07:21] Techrights-sec https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/trump-loyalists-push-evidence-free-claims-antifa-activists-fueled-mob-n1253176 [07:21] Techrights-sec https://reason.com/volokh/2021/01/06/impeach-and-remove/ [07:21] Techrights-sec https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2021/01/trump-coup-qanon-twitter/617582/ [07:21] Techrights-sec https://www.defenceweb.co.za/security/human-security/reintegrating-former-extremists/ [07:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | Impeach and Convict. Right Now. - The New York Times [07:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Trump loyalists push evidence-free claims that antifa activists fueled mob [07:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Impeach and Remove Reason.com [07:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | Trump's Coup Was Born Online - The Atlantic [07:21] Techrights-sec Moscow Mitch's, Rudy Guiliani's, and the other co-conspirators' involvement [07:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.defenceweb.co.za | Reintegrating former extremists - defenceWeb [07:21] Techrights-sec must also be addressed. Some have backpedalled in the last few hours, [07:21] Techrights-sec but that is insufficient given the years they have put into this. [07:22] schestowitz__ The US has long been ruled by criminals, but now it a helluva lot more visible; glad I don't have to deal with them, or barely... [07:23] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [07:33] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [07:34] Techrights-sec The US has been an oligarchy for recent years, at least a decade. [07:34] Techrights-sec That has been recognized internationally and even former US presidents [07:34] Techrights-sec have commented. [07:34] Techrights-sec Rumor has it that David Recordon from Facebook will be on Biden's transition [07:34] Techrights-sec team handling the ICT. [07:34] Techrights-sec That is mixed news. https://www.fedscoop.com/biden-transition-white-house-technology-officials/ [07:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Biden transition team names White House tech officials - FedScoop [07:34] Techrights-sec Same for Austin Lin. [07:34] Techrights-sec Facebook, along with Twitter, were together almost the whole reason there is [07:34] Techrights-sec a violent coup going on now. [07:38] schestowitz__ Just a little taste of what's to come with a rotting/rotten economy and societal breakdown [07:39] schestowitz__ FB et al have largely been part of the (attempt at) social control mechanisms (herding masses) by spying and mass indoctrination at scale. They even did "experiments" to that effect. [07:44] schestowitz__ vZS1: 'magazine' https://www.scmagazine.com/home/security-news/malware/thousands-infected-by-trojan-that-targets-cryptocurrency-users-on-windows-mac-and-linux/ [07:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scmagazine.com | Thousands infected by trojan that targets cryptocurrency users on Windows, Mac and Linux | SC Media [07:44] schestowitz__ FUD [07:44] schestowitz__ you can install a rogue "apps" [07:44] schestowitz__ thus "Linux" and "crypto" is dangerous [07:46] schestowitz__ "There is no denying in the fact that 2020 was a challenging year for everybody, including animals." https://urvikagola.wordpress.com/2021/01/06/dog-tails-and-tales-from-2020/ [07:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-urvikagola.wordpress.com | Dog tails and tales from 2020 Urvika Gola [07:47] Techrights-sec Yes, FB did 'test' manipulations of election outcomes. [07:47] schestowitz__ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook#User_influence_experiments [07:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Criticism of Facebook - Wikipedia [07:48] schestowitz__ money also changed hands between FB and Biden this year; it's like buying access to Office, from corporations that control minds. http://techrights.org/2020/11/08/political-debt/ [07:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Who President Biden is Indebted to (e.g. Google Monopoly and the Financial Sector) | Techrights [07:48] schestowitz__ I mean last year [07:49] schestowitz__ vZS1: "Researchers have found a new remote access trojan (RAT) written from scratch in Golang that lures cryptocurrency users to download trojanized apps on Windows, Mac and Linux machines by promoting the apps in dedicated online forums and on social media." [07:50] schestowitz__ more go FUD [07:50] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [07:50] schestowitz__ people can write code in Go [07:50] schestowitz__ thus Go is evil [07:51] kingoffrance lol theyve been saying that against c forever :) you can write code, with pointers! and access ram lol [07:51] kingoffrance asm has jumps! [07:51] kingoffrance watch out! [07:51] schestowitz__ Maybe I will do a quick rebuttal [07:51] schestowitz__ videos are quicker [07:52] schestowitz__ this is awful 'reporting [07:52] schestowitz__ on many levels [07:52] schestowitz__ someone used go to write a malicious "apps" [07:52] schestowitz__ someone then tries to trick people into running it [07:52] schestowitz__ so now "Linux" and "coins" are dangerous [07:52] schestowitz__ and "go" is also bad... it let people write programs [07:53] Techrights-sec Yes, FB did 'test' manipulations of election outcomes. [07:53] Techrights-sec Then too [07:53] Techrights-sec How is the home network getting solved with the ISP? [07:54] schestowitz__ They closed my complaint twice, without even asking me for approval. This is awful, I will just hope that throttling becomes more rare, I think the Ofcom complaint would take too long to be worth it. [07:56] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights ● Jan 07 [08:05] Techrights-sec What kind of consumer protection agencies can you turn to? [08:05] Techrights-sec If no one goes through Ofcom, then BT will just operate as it has with impunity. [08:10] schestowitz__ https://www.ofcom.org.uk/phones-telecoms-and-internet/advice-for-consumers/broadband-uso-need-to-know [08:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ofcom.org.uk | Your right to request a decent broadband service: What you need to know - Ofcom [08:10] schestowitz__ " [08:10] schestowitz__ From 20 March 2020, if you cant get a download speed of 10 Mbit/s and an upload speed of 1 Mbit/s, you can request an upgraded connection. You can make this request to BT, or to KCOM if you live in the Hull area. You do not need to be an existing customer of BT or KCOM to apply. [08:10] schestowitz__ Broadband companies may have fewer people available to help because of the coronavirus (Covid-19). So before contacting BT or KCOM with your request, we advise you to visit BT or KCOMs websites if you can in the first instance, rather than calling the companies. Here, you will be able to carry out an initial check of whether you could be eligible, and find out more information on how to apply. [08:11] schestowitz__ " [08:11] schestowitz__ still terrible upload speeds [08:30] *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). [08:31] *Now talking on #techrights [08:31] *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell [08:31] *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 [08:31] -NickServ-You are now identified for schestowitz. 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It has not been 5 weeks since pleroma.site was first down. I rely on it a great deal (links, services, contacts). If there's no imminent plan to bring it back online, can it please be passed on to someone who is interested in restoring service? It's very important to us... [11:16] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:21] schestowitz MinceR: I am doing next Intel leaks paet [11:22] schestowitz this one is funnier than the last one [11:22] schestowitz not sure how long it'll take to record and upload though [11:22] schestowitz we have upstream speeds too slow to even make a call on tcp/ip [11:24] *mmu_man (~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [11:33] *mcole (~sdfsidjf@KD113148020047.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp) has joined #techrights [11:41] *notanamber (~luca@host-79-6-210-200.business.telecomitalia.it) has joined #techrights [11:50] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights ● Jan 07 [12:02] scientes What is difference between Fiona and Rapunzel? ● Jan 07 [13:05] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [13:19] schestowitz What Fiona? [13:20] schestowitz Fiona Apple? [13:21] Ariadne fiona from shrek i believe [13:28] Ariadne the incident that happened yesterday was planned out on parler (the new gab) [13:29] Ariadne i notified the FBI about the thread on parler with screenshots last week, as did several others [13:29] Ariadne yet they did nothing [13:31] schestowitz I saw it in Twitter [13:32] schestowitz weeks ago [13:32] schestowitz 'reported' it publicly [13:32] schestowitz people called for armed conflict of sorts [13:32] schestowitz with memes and banner [13:32] schestowitz someone who showed up in my notifications [13:32] schestowitz but they don't seem to care [13:32] schestowitz some inside law enforcement are quietly sympathetic [13:32] Ariadne no i mean they literally planned the actual incident itself out on parler [13:32] schestowitz I reported in Gab also [13:32] schestowitz before the synagogue attack [13:33] schestowitz the attacker "followed" @tuxmachines in Gab [13:33] Ariadne parler deleted the thread this morning [13:33] schestowitz I only found out later [13:33] schestowitz when I searched through notifications email [13:33] Ariadne probably a cover their ass move [13:33] schestowitz connected to Mercer [13:33] schestowitz the same person who 'did' brexit [13:33] schestowitz cambrdidge analytica [13:34] schestowitz he's funding Parler [13:34] schestowitz look back at the 1930s in the US to find many American oligarchs donating to Adolf Hitler's party [13:34] schestowitz This is why Biden can solve too little [13:34] schestowitz rotten economy aside, the extremists are still around, inc. the very wealthy extremists [13:35] schestowitz who do their extremism "with class' [13:35] schestowitz Project Paperclip comes to mind.. [13:35] schestowitz Operartion I mean [13:36] aindilis so Ariadne any more insurrections planned? [13:36] aindilis or is this more of a one-off [13:36] Ariadne i mean theres some people on parler talking some shit for the 20th [13:37] aindilis yikes, kk [13:37] Ariadne but nothing as solid as what they had for yesterday [13:37] aindilis you should report that too [13:38] Ariadne if something resembling a plan shows up yes [13:38] Ariadne i think america is going to have a cold civil war [13:39] Ariadne really i think weve kind of been in one for a while now [13:40] schestowitz wait till the loons lay hands on some nukes [13:40] schestowitz many in the military are sympathtic [13:40] schestowitz and work with/near warheads [13:40] Ariadne they really arent [13:40] Ariadne trump called the military losers and suckers [13:40] Ariadne and just vetoed the bill that keeps the checks coming [13:41] schestowitz I hear of some troops and vets who still support him [13:41] schestowitz even some African-American ones [13:41] schestowitz they love some "good violence" [13:43] Ariadne anyway our nukes probably dont even work [13:44] Ariadne the systems used to launch them are commodore PETs still [13:45] Ariadne anyway i liked the part last night where all of our allies basically low key told america to get this shit under control or they would fix it for us [13:46] schestowitz [00:37] https://www.theonion.com/serbia-deploys-peacekeeping-forces-to-u-s-1819565829 [13:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com | Serbia Deploys Peacekeeping Forces To U.S. [13:46] schestowitz Wouldn't THAT be funny [13:47] Ariadne i mean thats basically what the EU said they would do yesterday if trump persists in this coup attempt [13:47] Ariadne like you think europe is going to tolerate that? no way [13:48] Ariadne these proud boys are fucking dumb as rocks [13:49] Ariadne our government is entangled with other governments so their fuckery is not just a national security issue to the US but also to Europe, Canada, Australia etc [13:53] schestowitz "Proud" boys v [13:53] schestowitz https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/01/06/republican-party-and-victimhood-ideology [13:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | The Republican Party and Victimhood as Ideology [13:53] schestowitz next thing you know they'll do "pride parades" with machines guns to make up for their lack of girlfriends [13:54] schestowitz "Oppressed" and "Shamed" [13:54] schestowitz imagine what those derilicts would be like if they REALLY became oppressed [13:54] schestowitz adults with minds of children call themselves "boys" [13:55] schestowitz "boys will be boys and buy grenades" ● Jan 07 [14:38] scientes Ariadne, schestowitz Fiona is a fairy-tale, not originally from Shrek [14:39] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.105) has joined #techrights [14:39] scientes I am now thinking of a performance that included a whole bunch of fairy-tale creatures [14:40] scientes and was the best depicition of Fiona I have seen [14:40] scientes and actually what I am working off of [14:40] scientes but I don't think I can find it [14:46] *mcole has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [14:47] *mcole (sdfsidjf@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/kzimmermann) has joined #techrights [14:47] MinceR 07 065934 < schestowitz__> why is it called moonwalk anyway? [14:48] MinceR probably because of michael jackson ● Jan 07 [15:00] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:02] kingoffrance well its always smart to have a religious movement named after a deadly sin [15:03] scientes that is a pretty decent piece of software [15:03] scientes moonwalk/satellite [15:03] kingoffrance that shows you are serious about god [15:03] scientes Debian doesn't have that (there was a GSoC student working on it, don't know how that turned out) [15:04] kingoffrance and when you have a guy with horns too [15:06] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:07] CrystalMath nitter isn't working [15:07] MinceR :( [15:09] psydroid the truth is so bitter now that we've realised that nitter doesn't cooperate with twitter [15:10] *mcole has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [15:13] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [15:17] CrystalMath as for the election, if Trump was really the vanguard the of american worker and democracy, he would have eliminated voting machines, and voting by mail, and he would have pardoned Assange [15:17] CrystalMath and would have done more important things that select people who do their job terribly and then get fired [15:34] MinceR https://explosm.net/comics/170/ [15:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) ● Jan 07 [16:00] *psymin_ (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [16:01] *psymin has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [16:17] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [16:18] *psymin_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [16:26] *notanamber has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) ● Jan 07 [17:31] schestowitz psydroid: MinceR: want to see the next Intel part? [17:31] schestowitz as soon we I publish it, for more quoting from you? [17:31] schestowitz it's amusing [17:31] schestowitz how Intel sees Linux [17:31] MinceR yes [17:31] schestowitz hand on... [17:31] MinceR "GNU Linux"? :> [17:31] schestowitz hang [17:31] schestowitz yeah [17:31] MinceR to be fair, it might have more to do with the GNU Project than GNOME does... [17:33] schestowitz typing up a summary [17:33] *tdemin has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [17:34] schestowitz We continue to look at the gory and embarrassing details about Intel and its mishandling of "Linux" (and of developers who actually have a clue) [17:34] schestowitz this one has many examples [17:34] schestowitz we will release as images at the end [17:36] schestowitz MinceR: http://techrights.org/2021/01/07/intel-does-not-understand-gnu/ [17:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks Part VII: Intel Does Not Understand GNU/Linux and It Employs People Who Never Uses It (to Actually Write About It) | Techrights [17:36] schestowitz psydroid: ^ [17:36] schestowitz my foremost worry is the text, not the video [17:36] psydroid I'm on it [17:36] schestowitz I coughed a lot, I think I may have also unintentionally burped at one point and I don't record a second time, ever [17:36] schestowitz psydroid: cool [17:37] schestowitz corrected "Uses" to "Used" [17:37] MinceR type and make screenshots instead, then :> [17:37] MinceR it's easier to handle [17:37] schestowitz I will at the end [17:38] schestowitz this is about source safety [17:39] schestowitz it will be time-delayed, maybe redacted further [17:44] schestowitz MinceR: you can get some context in another IRC channel [17:44] schestowitz fragmented for better obfuscation [17:44] MinceR :) [17:50] MinceR i couldn't spot any errors [17:50] MinceR in the text [17:50] schestowitz thanls [17:50] schestowitz thanks [17:50] schestowitz good to know... [17:50] schestowitz soon we'll get to the Microsoft role [17:51] psydroid "Does Intel actually love Linux? Does it merely tolerate Linux? Does Intel only pretend while hiring a few people to maintain this pretence?" [17:51] psydroid this is the most important piece of text in the article for me [17:52] schestowitz MinceR: editorial decision to first focus, in isolation, on Intel being technically incompetent [17:52] schestowitz psydroid: glad if you liked that part [17:52] schestowitz everyone "love linux" [17:52] schestowitz corporations fall in love [17:52] schestowitz not with money [17:52] schestowitz with "linux" [17:53] MinceR what an abusive relationship [17:53] psydroid They don't employ thousands of software developers without a reason. They like getting a leg up on the competition, so if they can do that by driving FOSS projects, they can be assured no one else will ever be able to catch up. [17:54] schestowitz MinceR: it's a bit of a paradox [17:54] DaemonFC[m] It turns out that the QAnon guy with the horns is chronically unemployed and a social parasite like most of those Trump rally people. [17:54] schestowitz which is deliberate [17:54] schestowitz as relationship has a positive connotation [17:54] schestowitz and then you had the tragedy of negation [17:54] DaemonFC[m] I guess they won't have anyone helping them fill out their unemployment and food stamp forms in prison. [17:54] schestowitz like "tough love" [17:54] MinceR i don't see that positive connotation [17:55] schestowitz not anymore [17:56] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [17:57] psydroid Also by employing many of the top developers in FOSS communities the competition won't have access to these same developers, which looks like a tactic to one-up your direct and indirect competitors by denying them access to adequate employees [17:58] psydroid It's a bit like buying Donny van de Beek and putting him on the bench for most of the matches ● Jan 07 [18:00] schestowitz I see [18:00] schestowitz thanks, will quote in a future part [18:01] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [18:01] schestowitz we have at least half a dozen more parts [18:01] MinceR https://i.imgur.com/N7ofV8C.jpg [18:01] schestowitz I need to think of the order and the logical sequence [18:02] schestowitz MinceR: walnut [18:02] MinceR :) [18:03] schestowitz to appease Trump's nutbase [18:03] MinceR this guy is making fun of twitler, though [18:05] schestowitz I know [18:07] CrystalMath i still think it was unfair to talk so badly of Trump [18:07] CrystalMath he did make mistakes, of course [18:07] MinceR hopefully you'll get over it [18:07] CrystalMath get over what? talking badly about Trump? sure [18:07] CrystalMath but what i will never forgive is the elitism, which must still be fought [18:07] MinceR your infatuation with the Moscovian Candidate [18:08] CrystalMath the anti-elitist movement will not end! [18:08] MinceR it's not an "anti-elitist" movement, it's a fascist movement [18:08] CrystalMath even if it's a little confused right now [18:08] MinceR and it will end when it kills us all [18:09] CrystalMath what's kind of weird is that, "the left" to the anti-elitist movement is globalists, elitists, corporatists, and big data people [18:09] CrystalMath which is very different from the historical left [18:09] MinceR how are those "left"? [18:09] MinceR it's just two different flavors of authoritarianism fighting over who gets to oppress us, or pretending to fight [18:10] CrystalMath right, it doesn't make any sense to call these people left [18:10] MinceR was yugoslavia not part of the eastern bloc? [18:10] CrystalMath it wasn't [18:10] MinceR or have you forgotten how the previous russian empire treated us all? [18:10] kingoffrance Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." Benito Mussolini (1883 - 1945) [18:10] CrystalMath yugoslavia was a part of the non-aligned movement [18:10] CrystalMath MinceR: nope, you could go to jail for supporting Stalin here [18:10] CrystalMath while Stailn was in power [18:11] CrystalMath kingoffrance: exactly, facebook, twitter and friends are the fascists [18:11] kingoffrance yes, but they all are CrystalMath [18:11] kingoffrance theres no other system in place [18:11] kingoffrance theres no other plan [18:11] kingoffrance "Trust the plan" [18:11] psydroid hiring unqualified people hints at not being able to hire qualified ones, because they would rather work or are already employed elsewhere, probably where their skills in GNU/Linux are appreciated and actively used [18:12] CrystalMath i don't think Trump really had a plan [18:12] MinceR CrystalMath: funny, they called themselves "socialist" [18:12] psydroid DaemonFC would probably have useful comments on this too, if he was available [18:12] CrystalMath MinceR: Trump calls himself the vanguard of the working american [18:13] CrystalMath that sounds more socialist than anything i've heard from Biden :P [18:13] MinceR lol [18:13] MinceR has he ever worked in his life? [18:13] CrystalMath has any other vanguard? [18:13] MinceR \_()_/ [18:13] CrystalMath like J. B. Tito? [18:14] MinceR probably not [18:14] CrystalMath supposed locksmith who lost 2 fingers, had all his fingers and played the piano [18:14] MinceR lol [18:15] schestowitz [18:08] the anti-elitist movement will not end! [18:15] schestowitz Elites are Trump [18:15] schestowitz You have an issue understanding very basic facts [18:15] schestowitz I feel bad for you [18:15] schestowitz tax breaks for the wealthy is one among many examples [18:15] schestowitz I cannot believe one needs to actually explain that to you [18:16] schestowitz his racist attacks mostly distract from all he has done to make the rich even richer [18:16] CrystalMath if that's true, i think they'd love him more [18:16] CrystalMath but maybe they think it wasn't enough [18:17] MinceR some of them do [18:17] MinceR but the wealthy get their way from both parties [18:17] schestowitz [18:11] hiring unqualified people hints at not being able to hire qualified ones [18:17] schestowitz bingo [18:17] schestowitz many of the names I redacted BTW [18:17] schestowitz suggest diversity drives [18:17] schestowitz race, gender [18:18] MinceR there might also be the preference to hire cheaper workers, even if they're unqualified [18:18] schestowitz but I don't even want t talk about that as it would distract from the technical nature of what's shown [18:18] schestowitz and open us up to discrediting efforts [18:18] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [18:18] schestowitz MinceR: maybe even intern [18:18] schestowitz i.e. no salary [18:19] schestowitz just promise of potential job at the end [18:19] MinceR "exposure" [18:19] schestowitz cleaning things with toilet brushes [18:19] schestowitz MinceR: some people in Ukraine got exposure to the nuclear sector, DUH? [18:19] schestowitz DUHt's right [18:19] MinceR lol [18:23] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19819514 [18:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The so-called 'vaccine' (clinical trials with #patent tax and grifiting) is soooooooo effective that we got 'only' 1,200 #covid19 in one day. Yeah, ViagraCompany(TM) to our rescue https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274 [18:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bbc.co.uk | Covid-19 in the UK: How many coronavirus cases are there in your area? - BBC News [18:25] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19819536 [18:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Noteworthy: almost all articles in #billgates -bribed #bbc which mention "vaccine" are not #journalism but pure ads. Like "happy stories", anecdotal crap, never data or actual evidence. Same at WHO. Our press is truly screwed, bought. [18:26] *tdemin (~tdemin@lan.tdem.in) has joined #techrights [18:26] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [18:26] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [18:27] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [18:33] schestowitz I think we might need to rebut crap like this https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/linux-malware-authors-use-ezuri-golang-crypter-for-zero-detection/ [18:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Linux malware authors use Ezuri Golang crypter for zero detection [18:33] schestowitz anti-FOSS, anti-Go, anti-Linux [18:33] schestowitz just because someone can write a program [18:51] DaemonFC[m] https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2021/01/07/windows_10_21286/ [18:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Breaking? Microsoft pushes 'News and Interests' with first Windows 10 Insiders build of the year The Register [18:51] DaemonFC[m] Microsoft is forcing News and Weather directly into the Windows taskbar. [18:53] DaemonFC[m] I assume there's probably going to be some way to turn it off, but this is obviously so nobody bothers with Google News, although I admit I use Bing News or MSN a lot more since Google started sabotaging their websites while I'm on a VPN. [18:53] MinceR new! your factory installed malware now comes with factory installed corporate brainwashing! [18:53] DaemonFC[m] Right now I access my Gmail through IMAP because of that so that Google can't break the buttons for new message, report spam, delete, and reply. [18:54] DaemonFC[m] I wonder if mjg59 knows anything about this. ● Jan 07 [19:03] schestowitz lol [19:04] schestowitz GaFAM is kaput [19:04] schestowitz living off US taxpayers' purse [19:04] schestowitz while that lasts [19:04] schestowitz to keep the world under control [19:04] schestowitz like Hollywood did [19:04] schestowitz but Hollywood is being battered by COVID now [19:04] schestowitz the tech companies too will lose control when nations see those companies for what they really are [19:05] schestowitz Free software let them restructure with bits they themselves control [19:05] schestowitz like Matrix in France [19:05] schestowitz bbl [19:05] schestowitz just recorded something about Intel [19:48] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/720607.jpg [19:50] schestowitz ah [19:50] schestowitz baby boy [19:50] schestowitz oh, wait... ● Jan 07 [20:10] schestowitz psydroid: hi [20:11] schestowitz can you read over an article that quotes you extensively? [20:11] schestowitz not just for typo spotting [20:11] schestowitz I also want to ensure you're OK with how it's presented [20:22] *kupi (uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zsinuyuwufxnleoc) has joined #techrights [20:27] schestowitz psydroid: I will post as in (the draft) within the coming hours if you may be afk (which is fair enough) [20:37] vZS1 schestowitz: https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/01/04/assange-wins-cost-crushing-press-freedom [20:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Assange Wins. The Cost: The Crushing of Press Freedom [20:37] vZS1 Some good citations there. [20:38] schestowitz Yes, I saw that [20:38] schestowitz it's in TR already [20:38] schestowitz we include almost everything from CommonDreams [20:39] schestowitz vZS1: can you look over my Intel piece? [20:39] schestowitz it mentions publishers' aspects [20:39] schestowitz your cuppa tea [20:39] vZS1 Part IV? [20:39] schestowitz no, interlufe [20:39] schestowitz *lude [20:39] vZS1 Link pls [20:39] schestowitz I think psydroid is afk [20:39] schestowitz ok, wait [20:40] schestowitz I have not proofread it yet http://techrights.org/2021/01/07/inteleaks-interlude/ [20:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why We Do InteLeaks (and a Call For Further Input/Contributions) | Techrights [20:41] schestowitz [18:23] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The so-called 'vaccine' (clinical trials with #patent tax and grifiting) is soooooooo effective that we got 'only' 1,200 #covid19 in one day. Yeah, ViagraCompany(TM) to our rescue https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274 [20:41] schestowitz [18:25] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Noteworthy: almost all articles in #billgates -bribed #bbc which mention "vaccine" are not #journalism but pure ads. Like "happy stories", anecdotal crap, never data or actual evidence. Same at WHO. Our press is truly screwed, bought. [20:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Covid-19 in the UK: How many coronavirus cases are there in your area? - BBC News [20:42] vZS1 " [20:42] vZS1 Many of the names are also female names. This suggests that Intel has not been hiring based on GNU/Linux skills/familiarity. [20:42] vZS1 " [20:42] vZS1 append "but to fill gender quotas" [20:43] schestowitz ok [20:43] schestowitz common also in sec/encryption [20:43] schestowitz you end up with mac users who suggest using "apps" [20:43] schestowitz Seen that at EFF for instance [20:44] vZS1 I've got a bit of a big thing to share with you. But I'll email you about it later. Just getting things sorted out first. (: [20:44] vZS1 Back to proofing now tho [20:47] schestowitz ed(1) also? [20:47] schestowitz in my TRODO [20:47] schestowitz TODO [20:47] MinceR the standard text editor? [20:48] vZS1 " [20:48] vZS1 And later this years we turn 15! [20:48] vZS1 " [20:48] vZS1 s/years/year/ [20:49] vZS1 Didn't spot any other errors [20:50] schestowitz I found and corrected some typos also [20:50] schestowitz Just trying to weed out the BS responses [20:51] schestowitz "found type, won't read" is the new tl;dr [20:51] schestowitz *typo [20:51] schestowitz List here http://techrights.org/2020/09/06/excuses-and-distractions/ [20:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How to Spot Diversion Tactics (Excuses and Distractions From Articles Not Convenient to the Reader) | Techrights [20:53] MinceR ft;wr [20:53] schestowitz dlf;cr [20:53] schestowitz don't like font; CANNOT read [20:53] MinceR :) [20:54] vZS1 bw;dr [20:54] vZS1 Brainwashed; didn't read. [20:54] MinceR ntb;dr [20:54] MinceR not the bible; didn't read [20:54] schestowitz LOL [20:54] schestowitz like religious people read the bible [20:54] schestowitz they carry it and stare at it [20:55] MinceR some of them like to hunt for quotes [20:55] schestowitz or follow some 'clergy's' sermons about it [20:55] MinceR some of them have difficulty finding which side is the top [20:55] schestowitz vZS1: or no BandWidth; didn't read [20:55] schestowitz vZS1: the BT issues are not resolved [20:55] schestowitz the managers is supposed to phone me tomorrow [20:56] schestowitz it's faster in evenings, so you know it's a congestion crisis [20:56] schestowitz and they have no resolution for it [20:56] schestowitz maybe a localised problem, but still.. [20:56] schestowitz [11:34] At least they've admitted they've breached ofcom regulations. Most people don't even get that far. [20:56] schestowitz [11:35] You've got legalese knowledge and an I.T. background so they can't make you go around in circles forever [20:56] schestowitz They didn't amit it [20:56] schestowitz admit [20:56] schestowitz the manager sent me a link [20:56] schestowitz similar to the one you dropped here in IRC [20:57] schestowitz and that page reaffirmed their inability to meet standards [20:57] schestowitz so they need to upgrade [20:58] vZS1 The video was nice. I like how the art from Mogz is there with the different logos [20:58] schestowitz yeah, maybe I should tell her [20:59] schestowitz I know her real name [20:59] schestowitz nice lady [20:59] vZS1 I didn't ask. Don't need to. [20:59] vZS1 Nicks are good enough ● Jan 07 [21:02] *Digit (~user@fsf/member/digit) has joined #techrights [21:02] schestowitz real name nothing like the nick [21:02] schestowitz vZS1: thanks for checking the spelling BTW [21:02] vZS1 Yw [21:02] schestowitz the ipfs thing is now 100% autopilot [21:02] *Digit tableflips as joindiaspora starts 422ing mysql errors at any attempt to make new posts [21:03] schestowitz it lights up the LEDs on my Pi (very bright, it's an extension to the board) 3 times at night when the key jobs run [21:03] schestowitz when I wake up I have 2 browsers and one kate session to help me check if the output was sane [21:03] schestowitz Digit: now? [21:03] schestowitz it works OK for me [21:04] schestowitz I tried seconds and minutes ago, received no errors [21:04] schestowitz maybe they need to repair their DB for your account [21:04] Digit ah, works again. n_n [21:04] schestowitz Ariadne: Digit It does not look like pleroma dot site is coming back after all. 3 efforts to contact its administrator have gone unanswered. Attempts to restore the site have failed. Again, social control media is a passing fad as there's no business model other than propaganda and censorship (if anything)... [21:05] *schestowitz does not know what "comes after" that [21:05] vZS1 Share IPFS CIDs [21:05] Digit it's like when internet goes down for 2 minutes and it's all flailing like the worst horror has happened. n_n [21:05] schestowitz if I knew how... [21:05] vZS1 Instead of Twits [21:05] schestowitz for indexes [21:05] schestowitz the index typos you mentioned [21:05] schestowitz still way above my head [21:05] schestowitz *types [21:06] vZS1 I mean just simple IPFS CIDs [21:06] schestowitz at least CIDs persist [21:06] schestowitz as long as people keep copies somewhere [21:06] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [21:06] vZS1 You can think of it like a tweey [21:06] vZS1 Tweet* [21:06] schestowitz my 200k+ posts in pleroma and comments on them are gone for good [21:06] schestowitz Assange and I spoke of alternatives to Twitter [21:07] schestowitz he was looking for something not centralised [21:07] schestowitz but back then those things were rare [21:07] schestowitz before the blockchain hype [21:07] schestowitz just moving to "free software" is not enough [21:07] schestowitz as they too censor and can go offline [21:07] vZS1 Nobody can censor a P2P network [21:07] schestowitz the US has his laptop [21:08] schestowitz I wonder if I still have PMs with him on the 'clown' [21:09] vZS1 And CIDs are just hashes. You can mention them in any platform [21:09] vZS1 IRC, email, etc [21:09] schestowitz my PMs with him are still in birdsite [21:09] schestowitz but maybe not all of them [21:09] schestowitz cannot recall [21:10] schestowitz anyway, I assume the US gov. read everything he had written by now [21:10] schestowitz they took over his accounts [21:10] schestowitz and he used spy sites like birdsite [21:10] schestowitz My comms with kim dotcom are also still there [21:10] vZS1 He's a journalist not a data security engineer [21:11] schestowitz I assume safely those ARE spied on [21:11] schestowitz they want to destroy him [21:11] schestowitz he's not hollyweb [21:11] Digit ah, nope. "Mysql2::Error: Field 'author_id' doesn't have a default value: INSERT INTO `posts` VALUES ()" happening on posts on my profile, but posting from the stream url public or limited seems fine. [21:11] schestowitz Digit: so to avoid frustration I will avoid posting there for a while [21:11] schestowitz until they figure things out [21:12] schestowitz if they restore from a backup, it'll be lost work [21:12] schestowitz twitter is so terrible [21:12] schestowitz I accessed it very briefly [21:12] schestowitz to check PMs [21:12] schestowitz and it's all crap, crap, crap fed from the side bar [21:12] *Digit nods [21:12] schestowitz and ads in timeline [21:12] schestowitz disguised as "teets" [21:12] schestowitz with VIDEOS in them [21:12] schestowitz yuck [21:12] schestowitz If I wanted to know crap, I'd go to CNN or something [21:13] schestowitz today rianne__ was reading out to me some "news" from BBC [21:13] schestowitz it wa awful [21:13] schestowitz like "worth" of footballers [21:13] schestowitz and vaccine propaganda [21:13] schestowitz lots and lots of vaccination brainwash [21:13] schestowitz "happy stories"/fluff [21:13] vZS1 "news" is awful, in general. [21:13] schestowitz not actual information [21:13] schestowitz I heard the same from other countries [21:13] Digit it does take managing contacts n ignores. for your high freq output, you'll attract even more of that nasty noise. [21:13] schestowitz people get sick [21:14] schestowitz not of COVID but the media campaigna [21:14] schestowitz then shame by peer [21:14] vZS1 It's a PITA to get good info [21:14] schestowitz joindiapora I read in "mentions" mode only [21:14] schestowitz I don't want to see noise [21:14] schestowitz just notifications etc. [21:14] schestowitz it's a bad source for news [21:14] schestowitz op eds and rants and memes are not news [21:15] vZS1 RMS's political notes has a lot of top-quality information [21:15] vZS1 There's an RSS feed for it [21:15] schestowitz he links to much to 'guardian' [21:15] schestowitz or maybe he stopped [21:15] vZS1 He still links to guardian [21:15] Digit rms also has some tanky-smelling things there too. [21:15] schestowitz ah, that's why I don't follow him [21:15] schestowitz commondreams dine, guardian we boycott [21:16] vZS1 "tanky-smelling"? [21:16] schestowitz 'gaurdian' is an oligarchs-funded gov propaganda site which targets left-leaning people [21:16] schestowitz some dub that controlled opposition [21:17] schestowitz they work with state entities [21:17] Digit vZS1: links/notes that have a sense of being a bit tanky, a bit heavy handed authoritarian. [21:17] schestowitz take bribe from gates [21:17] schestowitz incite against Assange [21:17] vZS1 Ah [21:17] schestowitz to the point where RMS dislikes Assange [21:17] vZS1 Fair enough [21:17] vZS1 Let me explain [21:17] vZS1 I wanted to say it has links a lot less shit than the BBC [21:17] vZS1 Or other "news" [21:18] schestowitz the funniest thing is that NPR and Guardian ask for donations [21:18] schestowitz while taking bribes from Bill Gates [21:18] *Digit dreams of "news" and "democracy" [21:18] schestowitz with strings attached [21:18] schestowitz they don't need the money [21:18] vZS1 It's a ploy [21:18] schestowitz they need the perception they're audience-sponsored [21:18] Digit that may be the vessel by which they hide their bribes. [21:18] vZS1 To make it seem like they actually are struggling [21:19] vZS1 > that may be the vessel by which they hide their bribes. [21:19] vZS1 This too [21:19] schestowitz struggling like their readers [21:19] Digit mhmm, trying look like the sympathetic same underdog. [21:19] schestowitz 'We're all in this together," say politicians who live in mansions [21:20] vZS1 "donations" = "bribes" [21:20] schestowitz omg lol [21:20] schestowitz https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/install-spotify-ubuntu-linux [21:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | How to Install Spotify on Ubuntu & Linux Mint - OMG! Ubuntu! [21:20] schestowitz 'linux' news [21:20] schestowitz "apps" [21:20] schestowitz "spotify" [21:20] schestowitz drm [21:20] schestowitz spying [21:21] schestowitz distrotube has just 'reviewed' a product [21:21] schestowitz sent to him [21:21] Digit ironic thing is, we are (in this together). and even the richest of us, are still held back, under the suppressed potential of the suppressed emancipation technologies and a thousand other destructions of wealth, under the race-to-the-bottom inducing paradigm of veying to have more than others. [21:21] schestowitz with 'no strings attached' [21:21] schestowitz just a gift [21:21] schestowitz which he then 'reviewed' [21:21] schestowitz vloggers becoming spammers aka "influencers" [21:21] DaemonFC[m] https://linuxinsider.com/story/a-mini-browser-war-in-linux-86950.html [21:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Mini Browser War in Linux | LinuxInsider [21:21] Digit yup, tools. [21:21] DaemonFC[m] No mention of Firefox. [21:22] schestowitz yeah [21:22] schestowitz I saw that [21:22] schestowitz false dichotomy [21:22] schestowitz we rejected that article in tuxmacuines [21:23] *Digit sees amazon advert on it, closes and blocks linux insider, reading nothing of their obvious propaganda advertising psyop noise, preferring to keep the noosphere clean [21:24] schestowitz tech tribalism [21:24] schestowitz when they say you need a digital 'assistent' [21:24] schestowitz assistant [21:24] schestowitz aka "bug", "listening device", "plant" [21:24] schestowitz and they give you option [21:24] schestowitz based on tech identity [21:24] schestowitz we offer you "APPLE" [21:24] schestowitz or "Microsoft" [21:24] schestowitz "AMAZON" [21:24] schestowitz "Google" [21:24] schestowitz one for the cultist [21:24] Digit so glad dan pollock put up his someonewhocares hosts file. been adding to my version of it long time. :) [21:25] schestowitz another for Microsoft useful idiots with Vista10 installed [21:25] schestowitz another for the eTailer 'shopper' [21:25] schestowitz and the "don't be evil" company [21:25] schestowitz choose one [21:25] schestowitz you have choice [21:25] schestowitz the choice to facilitate espionage in the kitchen, bedroom, dinner table.. [21:26] Digit mhmm... your highlighting the situation makes me wanna go on another penn & tellar crash course on seeing through the deceptions. [21:26] schestowitz those are common [21:26] schestowitz I love Carlin skits [21:26] vZS1 It's just PR [21:26] schestowitz he did one or more about false choices [21:26] schestowitz hang on. [21:26] vZS1 They are Googlebombing [21:26] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwRSRBPBhDw [21:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-George Carlin: The Illusion of Choice - YouTube [21:27] vZS1 I miss Carlin dearly. It's nice to see others enjoy him as well. [21:27] Digit schestowitz: yeah, Carlin's "best 3 minutes" is right up there with buckminster fuller's best quote (the "specious notion" one). [21:28] vZS1 You see mention of Firefox in the comments there. [21:28] vZS1 But Firefox is no innocent bystander [21:28] vZS1 The Firefox committee are deceiving people. [21:29] vZS1 Smuggling DMR and hostile TLS policy [21:30] Digit mozilla long time been irking me doing rug-pulling moves befitting of proprietary software. screams the necessity of kiss/suckless human-accessable code. can get those egregious proprietary software harms in free software, wrapped in complexity and bought mind-share. [21:31] vZS1 s/DMR/DRM/ [21:32] vZS1 It's just the least shitty practical option [21:33] vZS1 At least you can turn off browsing history and cookies in Firefox. You can't do that in Chrome [21:34] schestowitz while firefox lasts...:-) [21:34] schestowitz maybe they'll sell off the trademark one day [21:34] schestowitz and like opera rebase the whole thing [21:34] schestowitz same name, different thing [21:36] vZS1 I need access to some web services for with and they don't accept things like Falkon and Konqueror. [21:36] vZS1 s/for with/for work/ [21:36] vZS1 You need a "trusted" browser. [21:37] Digit i distrust/dislike each for their own reasons. i feel like i'm between a dozen browsers just now. [21:37] *rianne (~rianne@host81-152-238-156.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [21:37] *asusbox2 (~rianne@host81-152-238-156.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [21:40] vZS1 I'd rather use Firefox than Chrome. At least you still have some degree of configuration control with Firefox [21:40] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [21:41] vZS1 I also don't know why GNU IceCat is lagging so far behind in versions [21:41] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [21:41] vZS1 They seem to be a year or two behind in patches. [21:42] vZS1 Something just doesn't sit right there [21:43] schestowitz [21:37] i distrust/dislike each for their own reasons. i feel like i'm between a dozen browsers just now. [21:43] schestowitz The more you install, the more data they collect [21:43] schestowitz better limit what you install [21:43] schestowitz debian comes with firefox esr [21:43] schestowitz i added falkon [21:43] schestowitz nothing "google" [21:43] schestowitz [21:41] I also don't know why GNU IceCat is lagging so far behind in versions [21:44] schestowitz lack of human resources I am guessing [21:44] schestowitz some firefox forks are in ShiteHub [21:46] Digit my browsers come scattered from various distros (thanks bedrocklinux), and maybe even a couple i manually installed. logins n things limited to some. *shrug* idk, i probably should use more VPN n stuff if i was more desperate for opsec. [21:47] vZS1 Scratch what I said [21:47] vZS1 IceCat is on 78.6 now [21:47] Digit i am ashamed to admit, both brave and opera are in my diversity of browsers i use. [21:47] vZS1 So that's latest [21:47] vZS1 ESR [21:48] vZS1 Looks like I'm getting back to IceCat [21:50] *Digit reinstalls IceCat too (only not installed because experienced drive failure last night). [21:51] vZS1 Brave has native support for IPFS now btw [21:51] vZS1 So URIs with ipfs:// work OOTB [21:54] Digit brave's a kinda silly dupe. swap all your spies and masters for one.... yeah right. convenience trap. ... the sweeter the nectar, the more dangerous the pitcher plant. i dont trust it. ... but still end up using it shamefully too much. i should be configuring surf. n_n [21:54] vZS1 ipfs://Qmc5uYkRdTB51XZQz1oUDTqPdTnBerZ8CzLCUNmKx3Z5P9/USA-v-Assange-judgment-040121.pdf [21:54] vZS1 Digit: that should work in Brave [21:54] schestowitz ESR vanished [21:54] schestowitz no blog post in months [21:55] schestowitz but [21:55] schestowitz you means Firefox ESR [21:55] schestowitz which reminded me Raymon went silent [21:55] schestowitz *mond [21:55] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [21:55] vZS1 Busy building his militia? [21:55] schestowitz *meant [21:55] schestowitz yeah [21:55] Digit interesting. yeah. [21:55] schestowitz I was going to make a COVID joke [21:55] schestowitz he's obese, so would struggle with it [21:56] schestowitz could barely walk even without and before covid [21:56] vZS1 Let him play with his guns. Will keep him busy. [21:56] Digit yeah... doesnt look like he took care of his health much, if at all. like he flung himself in the standard-american-diet with total abandon. [21:56] schestowitz yea, then he raised money [21:56] schestowitz for his health bills [21:57] schestowitz but he hates big gov [21:57] Digit XD oh america. [21:57] schestowitz hence I assume he's ok with health 'industry' cartel/status quo [21:57] schestowitz until it kills him [21:58] schestowitz vZS1: how do you configure those links to work [21:58] schestowitz ipfs protocol [21:58] schestowitz I can make guesses [21:58] vZS1 In Brave? [21:58] Digit dogmatic "free market", applied to healthcare, does seem foolish. ... as per "a patient cured is a customer lost". [21:58] vZS1 It just works like a normal HTTP URI [21:58] schestowitz vZS1: what about the DE/IRC client [21:58] schestowitz they don't have applications associated [21:59] schestowitz I heard some dodgy stuff was going on with Brave [21:59] schestowitz and I don't think it was FUD [21:59] schestowitz shiteHub aside [21:59] schestowitz something they 'fixed' later [21:59] vZS1 > how do you configure those links to work [21:59] schestowitz but still gives room for concern [21:59] vZS1 You mean in Brave? [21:59] schestowitz kde [21:59] vZS1 Oh [21:59] schestowitz before the browser ● Jan 07 [22:00] schestowitz Could not find any application or handler for ipfs://qmc5uykrdtb51xzqz1oudtqpdtnberz8czlcunmkx3z5p9/USA-v-Assange-judgment-040121.pdf [22:00] vZS1 You either use the CLI or the desktop GUI (electron) [22:00] schestowitz we need to work out how to make it more accessible [22:01] vZS1 But the URIs only work in browsers [22:01] vZS1 For now [22:01] schestowitz even on gnu linux it's a steep learning curve [22:01] schestowitz should be click and go [22:01] schestowitz maybe speak to kde and gnome devs [22:01] schestowitz convince them to make native support [22:01] schestowitz out of the box [22:01] vZS1 It's not any more complicated than a torrent [22:01] vZS1 Especially with the GUI [22:01] schestowitz they put in nepumok shite [22:01] schestowitz by default [22:02] schestowitz runnign demons, wasting cpu time and ram [22:02] vZS1 nepumok? [22:02] schestowitz so why not something more useful like ipfs [22:02] schestowitz https://userbase.kde.org/Nepomuk [22:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-userbase.kde.org | Nepomuk - KDE UserBase Wiki [22:02] schestowitz "Baloo is the next generation of semantic search" [22:03] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Nepomuk [22:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | John of Nepomuk - Wikipedia [22:03] schestowitz didn't know... [22:03] vZS1 That's way too much for me [22:03] schestowitz have them bake in ipfs support [22:03] vZS1 I like my simple CLI commands [22:03] schestowitz maybe for falkon or konqueror [22:03] schestowitz I use both [22:04] schestowitz is there an ncurses UI for ipfs? [22:04] vZS1 No idea [22:04] schestowitz I reckon someone has made something [22:04] schestowitz let me check [22:04] vZS1 Ofc [22:04] vZS1 Bound to be something [22:04] schestowitz https://github.com/daviddahl/wut [22:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - daviddahl/wut: Libp2p / IPFS terminal-based chat [22:05] schestowitz Serverless, IPFS, Tweetnacl-js-based chat application for terminal in an ncurses style [22:05] schestowitz hmm... techrights showing up a lot [22:05] schestowitz when searching for ipfs stuff [22:06] vZS1 Wouldn't surprise me. We have a very clean index with a lot of traffic. [22:06] schestowitz https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmX4u8WLvSMeyBAUYLC4cppEKCNWzLjiXJiZMnUc3GWMhX [22:06] schestowitz the autopilot thing ran smoothly for days now [22:07] schestowitz soon I will stop manually checking the output in the morning [22:07] schestowitz unless someone reports an issue to me [22:07] schestowitz that inc. IRC logs on autopolit [22:08] vZS1 This weekend I'll do an IPNS how-to for you. That should help improve utility a lot. [22:09] vZS1 You can use it for your Pi. It's really awkward to keep track of the IP address [22:09] schestowitz thanks [22:09] vZS1 *manually [22:09] schestowitz I look forward to it, lockdown gives us spare time [22:10] vZS1 We can also move away from forsaken DNS [22:10] vZS1 Bloody poison [22:10] vZS1 IPNS has propagation time sub 60s [22:11] vZS1 That's really good [22:11] vZS1 The network keeps getting faster [22:12] vZS1 So it's not lighting fast but good enough for most practical purposes [22:12] vZS1 s/lighting/lightning/ [22:12] vZS1 I tested it out yesterday [22:19] schestowitz DNSless [22:19] schestowitz serverless [22:19] vZS1 Yes! [22:19] schestowitz browserless [22:19] schestowitz netless [22:19] schestowitz PCless [22:19] vZS1 Webless [22:19] schestowitz cloudless [22:19] schestowitz less [22:19] schestowitz file not found [22:19] vZS1 Less is more, you know. [22:19] schestowitz sudo apt-get install less [22:19] schestowitz can't get less [22:19] schestowitz try more [22:19] schestowitz sudo apt-get install less |more [22:19] schestowitz can't get less [22:19] schestowitz try again later [22:20] schestowitz sleep 1000000 [22:20] vZS1 Debian are pissing me off [22:20] vZS1 Their 32bit support is dwindling [22:20] schestowitz 'security' https://www.darkreading.com/risk/6-open-source-tools-for-your-security-team-/d/d-id/1339765?_mc=rss_x_drr_edt_aud_dr_x_x-rss-simple [22:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darkreading.com | 6 Open Source Tools for Your Security Team [22:20] vZS1 Oh boy [22:20] vZS1 Let's have a look [22:21] schestowitz I get blank page [22:21] schestowitz just background [22:21] vZS1 Lmao [22:21] vZS1 I was just about to say [22:21] vZS1 Need JS [22:22] vZS1 You need to click on slides [22:22] vZS1 Christ [22:22] vZS1 This is atrocious [22:23] schestowitz in firefox, at top left [22:23] schestowitz it shows up 5 email addresses of mine [22:23] schestowitz how they get and show that [22:23] schestowitz with JS on [22:23] schestowitz who knows... [22:23] schestowitz it's a malware site [22:23] schestowitz sorry, should not have linked, I suppose [22:23] schestowitz the word "dark" says what they are [22:23] schestowitz blackhat news [22:24] vZS1 Oh I don't mind [22:24] vZS1 I'm too tired for productive things [22:24] vZS1 "cloud security" [22:24] vZS1 "FIDO" [22:25] vZS1 " [22:25] vZS1 Janssen is a Linux Foundation project [22:25] vZS1 " [22:25] vZS1 Didn't take long [22:25] vZS1 Did it? Lol [22:25] vZS1 LF Googlebombing [22:26] vZS1 " [22:26] vZS1 highly available, and highly flexible, with special attention paid to organizations with huge volumes of concurrent user loads or large fleets of Internet of Things (IoT) devices that need to be authenticated and authorized onto the network. [22:26] vZS1 " [22:26] schestowitz Aye Oh Teah [22:26] vZS1 Really pumping out the buzzwords [22:26] MinceR IoS [22:26] schestowitz so it's new and moern [22:26] schestowitz and smart [22:27] schestowitz there's IOS and iOS [22:27] schestowitz Cisco and Apple [22:27] MinceR and now there's also IoS [22:27] MinceR the Internet of Shit [22:27] schestowitz yeah [22:27] Digit internet of shit/spies/stings [22:27] schestowitz when they're done attaching peple and pets to sensors [22:28] schestowitz they'll ask you to attack sensors to shits [22:28] schestowitz while you put that in a poopoo bag [22:28] schestowitz *attach [22:28] Digit and oh how to sublimate to radical transparency to see the watchers. [22:28] schestowitz just in case you build a fertiliser bomb of shits [22:29] vZS1 " [22:29] vZS1 OSSEC has a huge user base, with more than 500,000 downloads each year, as reported by the OSSEC project team. [22:29] vZS1 " [22:29] schestowitz the sensors will detect corona on shit [22:29] Digit or grow a theraputic herb, or whatever else they decide they dislike enough. like if you're the wrong colour/age/ability/etc. [22:29] schestowitz responsible citizens will report shits with covid-19 on them [22:29] schestowitz it's a "strain" [22:29] schestowitz spreads shit 70% faster [22:29] vZS1 Like this website, apparently [22:29] Digit so they'll say. cant even detect their fabrication without lies. [22:30] vZS1 Hold on. There's more. Lol [22:30] schestowitz IDG https://www.csoonline.com/article/3410046/hardware-and-firmware-vulnerabilities-a-guide-to-the-threats.html?nsdr=true [22:30] vZS1 " [22:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.csoonline.com | 33 hardware and firmware vulnerabilities: A guide to the threats | CSO Online [22:30] vZS1 At its core, Security Monkey randomly reboots the servers in a cloud infrastructure. This provides a company with information on whether the application delivery network can withstand the loss of any particular server. [22:30] schestowitz another marketing companty [22:30] schestowitz from china [22:30] vZS1 " [22:31] vZS1 Boss [22:31] schestowitz in 'news' clothing [22:31] vZS1 The server is offline [22:31] vZS1 Why? [22:31] vZS1 The monkey did it, boss. [22:31] vZS1 Gdi. Not again [22:31] Digit monkeys in tech as a feature, not a bug. interesting. [22:31] vZS1 This is gold [22:35] vZS1 The rest was AWS Googlebombing [22:35] schestowitz https://fitzcarraldoblog.wordpress.com/2021/01/07/the-phone-name-assigned-automatically-by-android-on-my-new-phone-prevented-bluetooth-pairing-and-connecting-in-linux/ [22:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fitzcarraldoblog.wordpress.com | The phone name assigned automatically by Android on my new phone prevented Bluetooth pairing and connecting in Linux | Fitzcarraldo's Blog [22:36] schestowitz no server [22:36] schestowitz look ma, it runs on AIR https://opensource.com/article/21/1/devapps-strategies [22:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3 serverless strategies to look for in 2021 | Opensource.com [22:37] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2019/07/13/buzzwords-confronted/ [22:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Theres No Such Thing as Cloud Computing, Serverless and All That Other Nonsense | Techrights [22:37] vZS1 If you have a daemon that can access your kernel with root privileges, you are already screwed. Which is why all these hardware vulnerability posts are all BS. [22:38] schestowitz I wait for serveless IPFs [22:38] schestowitz so I can toss away the raspi [22:38] vZS1 Lol [22:38] schestowitz it'll be in cloud and vapour [22:38] schestowitz like a haunted house [22:38] schestowitz with wireless charing [22:38] schestowitz charging [22:38] schestowitz the computation will be done with "positive energy" [22:39] vZS1 It's going to be smart computing [22:39] schestowitz and all that mystic stuff [22:39] vZS1 Also comes with HEY HI [22:39] schestowitz "hooey" and "rackey" or whatever they call it [22:39] *amreo[m] (amreomatri@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-adezwwurobcpafde) has joined #techrights [22:39] schestowitz there's one that Indian allude to sometimes [22:39] schestowitz all those mythical energies [22:39] amreo[m] Can Techrights share the videos via IPFS? [22:39] schestowitz I forgot the terms [22:39] vZS1 Karma [22:40] schestowitz amreo[m]: it can, but need better upstream speeds [22:40] schestowitz I can barely even upload my own videos [22:40] schestowitz let alone share them over my line [22:40] vZS1 Shakti is the primal energy [22:41] vZS1 It's also the word commonly used for "strength" [22:41] schestowitz that's another one [22:41] amreo[m] I want to help Techrights by also offloading the bandwidth [22:41] schestowitz there must be an index of words for that [22:41] schestowitz all those sort of invisible 'energies' [22:41] schestowitz like the ones use in therapy [22:41] schestowitz and it just works because "some mythical thing" [22:41] vZS1 Qi (Chi) [22:41] schestowitz ah, yes [22:42] vZS1 Tao/Dao [22:42] schestowitz that's the far eastern one [22:42] schestowitz the indian one I forgot [22:42] schestowitz the Chopra BS [22:42] schestowitz and his mate Shiva A [22:42] schestowitz who slapped me [22:42] vZS1 > amreo[m]: I want to help Techrights by also offloading the bandwidth [22:42] schestowitz SLAPPed [22:42] vZS1 http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt [22:43] schestowitz during office hours our connection is terrible [22:43] vZS1 amreo[m]: you can start with that [22:43] schestowitz not downstream speeds at well [22:43] schestowitz youtube buffering and downgrading quality (blurry) [22:43] schestowitz just to cope with BT's limits [22:43] schestowitz it used to be a seemingly only upstream issue [22:43] amreo[m] > http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt [22:43] amreo[m] The index is incomplete. There are no videos nor article texts [22:43] schestowitz I will raise this tomorrow with them [22:44] schestowitz the articles are not in ipfs [22:44] schestowitz articles are in daily lumps [22:44] vZS1 TR is not 100% IPFS [22:44] schestowitz I can make it so [22:44] vZS1 We're still experimenting [22:44] schestowitz but... I'd run out of space on the raspi fast [22:44] schestowitz esp. for past articles and videos [22:45] vZS1 The new videos could easily go on IPFS. I am willing to pin all of them. [22:45] schestowitz it's also not good for the microsd card [22:45] schestowitz vZS1: I can make an index of all video files [22:45] schestowitz it would be easy [22:46] vZS1 Yeah. I'm not too worried about the code [22:46] schestowitz I block listing in http://techrights.org/videos/ [22:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | NO TITLE [22:46] schestowitz but... [22:46] schestowitz I can output the listing for wget script and ipfs add * [22:47] schestowitz there are 210 videos in that directory [22:47] schestowitz it's not everything [22:47] schestowitz but all the recent video uploads are there [22:47] schestowitz 8.5 gb [22:47] schestowitz I have just checked [22:48] vZS1 All in good time [22:48] schestowitz I can send you list of files and paths [22:48] schestowitz and then prepend wget to them [22:49] schestowitz it's just 210 lines [22:49] schestowitz then you have a mirror [22:49] schestowitz 8.5 gb [22:49] vZS1 You can dump it in my homedir on the Pi [22:49] vZS1 The metadata only [22:49] schestowitz I can advertise ipfs address/CID inline when publishing new videos [22:49] vZS1 Paths and all that [22:49] MinceR or you can give that list file to wget with -i [22:51] vZS1 But I've got some other basic things to do first [22:52] vZS1 Eventually, we'll need to do IPFS config fine-tuning. There's a limit of 10GB on the IPFS repo atm [22:52] schestowitz done [22:52] schestowitz see ~1 [22:52] schestowitz see ~/1 [22:52] vZS1 Will do [22:53] schestowitz 238.156 [22:54] schestowitz add/prepend techrights.org/videos/ to files [22:54] vZS1 Ty [22:54] vZS1 I'll check it out on Saturday [22:55] schestowitz I have just turned that into a shell script [22:55] schestowitz whcih can be run as a cron job to keep that file up to date [22:56] schestowitz in case we go down this route [22:56] vZS1 mutt development in a frenzy rn btw [22:56] schestowitz needs cut'ing the output [22:56] vZS1 Over the last month, there's been multiple commits every day. [22:56] vZS1 Some days, over 5 commits a day. [22:56] vZS1 I follow the commits on RSS [22:57] vZS1 I wish more projects did RSS for their commits [22:58] vZS1 Instead of ShitHub emails [22:58] schestowitz just follow birdsite accounts [22:58] schestowitz ignore the ads ;-) [22:58] schestowitz and turn on JS [22:58] vZS1 Both corrupted trash [22:58] schestowitz it no longer works without JS [22:58] schestowitz at all [22:59] schestowitz shithub emails or site I'd avoid [22:59] schestowitz if you help projects there you're like a Microsoft intern [22:59] schestowitz unpaid volunteer [22:59] schestowitz even if you just leave a comment [22:59] schestowitz or a bug reporrt [22:59] schestowitz it's a "gig economy" for devs [22:59] schestowitz Ubersoft [22:59] vZS1 At least Uber drivers get paid ● Jan 07 [23:00] schestowitz Github also [23:00] vZS1 Here you get "likes" [23:00] schestowitz they get "likes:" [23:00] schestowitz yeah [23:00] schestowitz beat me to it [23:00] vZS1 And "stars" [23:00] schestowitz stars, wor [23:00] schestowitz wow [23:00] schestowitz get 100 stars, you'll get the job [23:01] schestowitz I reckon there's also some "SEO"-like market for that [23:01] schestowitz 'buying stars" [23:01] schestowitz and Microsoft will look the other way [23:01] vZS1 Who knows [23:01] schestowitz as that helps shithub seem or feel more important than it really is [23:01] schestowitz vis-a-vis...: [23:02] vZS1 ShitHub is just another form of social media [23:02] vZS1 Same arguments used to bring people onto the platform [23:03] vZS1 "many users", "discoverability" [23:03] vZS1 "stars" = "likes" [23:03] vZS1 "forks" = "shares" [23:04] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/05/14/microsoft-fakehub/ [23:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft FakeHub: GitHub is Faking the Number of Developers in GitHub by Listing Non-Existing Ones | Techrights [23:04] schestowitz that's just one example (me) [23:04] vZS1 "popular repos" = "trending" [23:04] schestowitz I reckon they do this a lot [23:04] schestowitz to lie about number of "devs" [23:04] vZS1 There's probably millions of bots on GitHub [23:04] schestowitz yes [23:04] vZS1 Inflating numbers [23:04] schestowitz or people with multiple accounts [23:04] schestowitz or stale accounts [23:04] schestowitz like FB, no incentive to remove those [23:04] schestowitz network effect can be faked [23:05] vZS1 I've had multiple bots on GitHub. To get around some annoying limits. [23:05] schestowitz inertia = self-fulfilling prophecy [23:05] schestowitz Zuckerberg did that EVEN BEFORE FB [23:05] schestowitz creating fake accounts [23:05] schestowitz fake scale, attract more people [23:05] schestowitz it's a ponzi scheme [23:05] schestowitz with people as the fake currency [23:05] vZS1 Not people [23:05] schestowitz and then people start to realise their many followers and stuff were just phantoms [23:05] vZS1 User accounts [23:06] vZS1 Aka bots [23:06] schestowitz created there like in Ashley Madison [23:06] schestowitz fake women [23:06] schestowitz to entice people to shell out money and create an accont [23:06] schestowitz if they can pull it off and get some real people on the platform that's phantoms [23:06] vZS1 Don't forget you also give them your email address [23:06] vZS1 Many upload PGP keys [23:07] vZS1 Personal details in "profile" [23:07] vZS1 They aggregate all of it [23:07] vZS1 That alone is worth a lot of money [23:08] schestowitz keybase is now zoom [23:08] schestowitz makes you wonder [23:08] schestowitz zoom works for/with FBI [23:08] schestowitz how many people played along with this sham? [23:08] vZS1 As a bonus they get to play tyrant with projects [23:09] vZS1 I will never forget what happend to youtube-dl [23:09] schestowitz many left after that [23:09] schestowitz but not enough [23:10] schestowitz yet [23:10] vZS1 It's the first time the tyranny showed itself [23:10] vZS1 This is what Microsoft really does [23:11] schestowitz many projects think they need shithub mirrors [23:11] schestowitz based on false numbers [23:11] vZS1 That's the thing [23:11] schestowitz the liars and crooks at microsoft keep lying about the number of useds ("users") in #github http://techrights.org/2020/05/14/microsoft-fakehub/ #deletegithub [23:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft FakeHub: GitHub is Faking the Number of Developers in GitHub by Listing Non-Existing Ones | Techrights [23:11] vZS1 They fall for the shit arguments [23:11] schestowitz it keeps their momentum [23:11] schestowitz the lies give them inertia [23:11] schestowitz even phoronix outsourced to shithub [23:11] schestowitz it did not need to [23:11] vZS1 And then they get locked in [23:11] schestowitz maybe michael wanted some "stars" [23:12] vZS1 Their API is atrocious [23:12] schestowitz forget aboyt articles and commits [23:12] vZS1 They keep breaking the GitHub API [23:12] schestowitz start the day counting stars [23:12] schestowitz and who "liked" what [23:12] schestowitz much better than code anyway [23:12] vZS1 Hold on [23:12] vZS1 This actually reminds me [23:12] schestowitz and proprietary data, cannot be exported or anythjing [23:13] vZS1 GitHub first had a REST API [23:13] vZS1 They repeatedly broke backwards compatibility [23:13] vZS1 Then they migrated wholesale to GraphQL [23:13] vZS1 Which is again a breaking change [23:13] vZS1 An immense one [23:14] vZS1 And GraphQL just added so much unnecessary complexity [23:15] vZS1 ShitLab soon followed with the same [23:15] vZS1 I've actually had to suffer maintaining these [23:15] vZS1 It was incredibly painful [23:16] vZS1 You had to have so much infrastructure to support all this [23:17] vZS1 Managing the security tokens was another nightmare because of dealing with OAuth(2) [23:18] vZS1 This is the dirty underbelly of these Shit platforms [23:18] vZS1 A pile of spaghetti underneath [23:19] vZS1 It's a full time job to keep everything from breaking [23:20] schestowitz [23:13] GitHub first had a REST API [23:20] schestowitz entry is easy [23:20] schestowitz exit is hard(er) [23:20] schestowitz eee [23:24] vZS1 I spent the first quarter of 2020 maintaining both ShitHub and ShitLab repos. I've seen more than most of the sewage. [23:24] vZS1 But I don't know what else got in recently [23:31] schestowitz more is more [23:31] schestowitz more complexity [23:32] DaemonFC[m] It's very nice that social media finally shut Donald Trump up. [23:32] schestowitz sometimes where none was needed in the first place [23:32] DaemonFC[m] Facebook and Twitch say it's likely permanent. [23:32] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19821525 [23:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #trump should be arrested. The US still has the #deathPenalty too... https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10191-this-is-how-tyrants-go-alone [23:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> changelog.complete.org | This Is How Tyrants Go: Alone | The Changelog [23:32] DaemonFC[m] Twitter....he hasn't posted today even though the first ban was 12 hours. [23:32] schestowitz maybe he did not find the loo [23:32] schestowitz his twitter 'throne' [23:33] vZS1 > sometimes where none was needed in the first place [23:33] schestowitz maybe he sits on it legs up, head down [23:33] schestowitz I still use plain text for everything [23:33] vZS1 KISS not found [23:33] vZS1 Send help [23:33] schestowitz there are ways to emphasise text without adding markup or anything [23:33] schestowitz vZS1: well, they need to keep their devs busy [23:33] schestowitz more JS [23:33] schestowitz and more JS [23:33] schestowitz and more [23:33] schestowitz and more [23:33] schestowitz more ads [23:34] schestowitz more things nobody asked for [23:34] schestowitz buy a new computer [23:34] schestowitz cannot read 140-chat tweet [23:34] schestowitz need to download new fonts for the tweet [23:34] schestowitz optimised by Twitter(TM) [23:34] schestowitz for "diversity" [23:34] vZS1 Then again, their business model would die, if they really did KISS [23:35] schestowitz what business model?? [23:35] schestowitz THey ever had any? [23:35] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: They were talking about what the Secret Service would do if he refused to leave. Now they're talking about terminating his presidency early either with a real impeachment this time or the 25th amendment. [23:35] schestowitz they're like uber [23:35] schestowitz riding shareholders' oil money [23:35] DaemonFC[m] Nobody fears him anymore. [23:35] schestowitz twitter lost money every quarter for a decade [23:35] DaemonFC[m] They all just want him gone. He's a liability, even for the Republican Party. [23:36] schestowitz https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-34474798 [23:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Meet Twitter's second biggest shareholder, Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal - BBC News [23:36] vZS1 > It's very nice that social media finally shut Donald Trump up. [23:36] vZS1 I think this is bad [23:36] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: because they want to be back in 2024 [23:36] schestowitz and late hour stunts would help change perceived record [23:36] vZS1 Censorship isn't the answer, even for loonies like Cheeto Hitler [23:36] schestowitz where were they in 2016? [23:36] schestowitz Power-hungry [23:36] CrystalMath Trump hasn't posted on Parler either [23:36] schestowitz it's just GOP last-week revisionism [23:37] schestowitz seeing how they lost Georgia [23:37] schestowitz because not enough voters would cast a ballot for a terror group in political party clothing [23:37] DaemonFC[m] From Fox News: [23:37] vZS1 Censorship is always a slippery slope [23:37] DaemonFC[m] "But, having failed to prove your case in court after trying for two months, you cant load the entire weight of unrealistic expectations onto Pence at the last minute." LOL [23:37] CrystalMath i agree with vZS1 [23:37] CrystalMath but Trump isn't posting anyway [23:38] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: Lump is now depositing his "tweets" into the loo [23:38] schestowitz instead of "smart" phone [23:38] schestowitz it's the same shitposting anyway [23:38] schestowitz Trump blocked me in Twitter [23:38] schestowitz in 2017 [23:38] vZS1 The right way to deal with loonies is to ignore them not censor them [23:39] schestowitz just in: https://kaidan.im/2021/01/07/end-to-end-encryption/ [23:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kaidan.im | Kaidan will receive a grant for end-to-end encryption - Kaidan [23:42] vZS1 Nothing about who has keys [23:43] schestowitz the K in keys is KDE [23:43] schestowitz NLnet [23:43] schestowitz I heard about them in relation to OIN last year [23:43] schestowitz a [23:43] schestowitz a bad sign [23:44] schestowitz mentioned in http://techrights.org/2020/03/27/the-lot-network-paper-club/ [23:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | LOT Network is a One-Man (Millionaires) Operation and Why This Should Alarm You | Techrights [23:45] vZS1 Always a convenient omission about who had the keys [23:46] vZS1 s/had/has/ [23:46] schestowitz the adults [23:46] schestowitz the responsible ones [23:46] vZS1 I feel like a parrot [23:47] vZS1 "who had the keys?" [23:47] vZS1 KISS [23:47] schestowitz orherwise the TerroristsWin(TM) [23:47] vZS1 DRY [23:47] vZS1 I think I say these once a day now [23:48] vZS1 I should demand crackers [23:48] schestowitz https://www.scmagazine.com/home/security-news/malware/new-golang-worm-turns-windows-and-linux-servers-into-monero-miners/ [23:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scmagazine.com | New Golang worm turns Windows and Linux servers into monero miners | SC Media [23:49] schestowitz goland [23:49] vZS1 Think of the child pornography [23:49] schestowitz encryption [23:49] schestowitz golang causes "hacker" [23:49] vZS1 Another one? [23:49] schestowitz encryption causes terror [23:49] schestowitz see? [23:49] schestowitz this is "news" [23:49] schestowitz sc magazine [23:49] schestowitz "security" something [23:49] schestowitz well researched... well researched FUD [23:50] schestowitz copy-pasted from 'authority' sources [23:50] schestowitz like "researchers" [23:50] vZS1 There's anti-Go propaganda in full swing rn [23:50] schestowitz mentioned shitehub also [23:50] vZS1 Because C# lost to Go [23:50] vZS1 And Billy doesn't know how to lose [23:50] schestowitz I thought about doing a video about this one [23:50] schestowitz but it would be similar to other recent ones [23:50] schestowitz and give the FUD visibility [23:51] schestowitz so held off [23:51] vZS1 Good call [23:51] schestowitz No, billy is winning [23:51] schestowitz he bribes the BBC periodically [23:51] schestowitz and now it's vaccine marketing [23:51] vZS1 Not this particular battle [23:51] schestowitz disguised as tax-funded 'news' [23:51] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/10/25/donald-trump-and-bill-gates/ [23:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Donald Trump Helped Bill Gates Increase His Wealth by More Than 50%, Especially During the Pandemic | Techrights [23:51] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/10/06/bill-gates-profiteering/ [23:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Latest Tim Schwab Investigative Report on Bill Gates Explores His Latest Vaccine Profiteering Drive | Techrights [23:52] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/12/29/gates-and-covid/ [23:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When it Comes to Bill Gates and Vaccination, Critics Need to Focus on Monopoly and Profits at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights [23:52] schestowitz https://www.rt.com/uk/506443-boris-gates-pharma-vaccines-military/ [23:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BoJo hosts Bill Gates & pharma bigwigs to plot Covid-19 vaccine deployment as UK military preps for biggest effort since WWII RT UK News [23:52] vZS1 MS wanted C# to be the next Java. [23:52] schestowitz UK run by Billy C# [23:52] vZS1 But Go has taken that spot [23:52] schestowitz fire your go devs [23:52] schestowitz they'll get you security-breached [23:53] schestowitz based on.. sc.. "MAGazinE" [23:53] schestowitz go to Microsot [23:53] schestowitz more professional [23:53] schestowitz when they get cracked the crackers just get "source code" [23:53] schestowitz nothing else [23:53] schestowitz they get... code [23:53] schestowitz no personal details [23:53] schestowitz no password [23:53] schestowitz just code... [23:54] schestowitz like the code of Golang [23:54] schestowitz which is public BTW [23:54] vZS1 Btw [23:54] vZS1 AWS security breach [23:54] schestowitz yes, [23:54] schestowitz barely reported [23:54] schestowitz same fro slack [23:54] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2019/07/20/slack-is-dead/ [23:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Slack Committed a Very Major Crime That Can Cost Many Billions If Not Trillions in Damages for Years to Come | Techrights [23:54] schestowitz I suppose they never will explain what caused downtime days ago [23:54] schestowitz just.. "it's back" [23:55] schestowitz they never explained what happened [23:55] schestowitz I have checked [23:55] schestowitz never ever naming a culprit/cause [23:55] schestowitz so maybe yet another data breach [23:55] schestowitz maybe dec 24th 2021 they will explain what happened [23:56] vZS1 Who knows [23:56] schestowitz we might never know [23:56] schestowitz insiders know [23:56] schestowitz I tried to publicly reach out [23:56] schestowitz maybe one day we'll learn something [23:57] vZS1 Hoping for a leak [23:57] schestowitz "Operating for a year now, insidious malware ElectroRAT is bringing 2020 into 2021 and targeting crypto wallets." [23:57] schestowitz Same script as arse technically pedophile https://www.coindesk.com/elusive-malware-electrorat-targets-crypto-wallets [23:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This Elusive Malware Has Targeted Crypto Wallets for a Year - CoinDesk [23:57] schestowitz whose editor/mod was arrested for raping kids [23:57] schestowitz technically [23:58] schestowitz "ElectroRat malware is written in the open-source programming language Golang, which is good for cross-platform functionality" [23:58] schestowitz Oh dear [23:58] schestowitz Go [23:58] schestowitz and "cross-platform functionality" [23:58] schestowitz evil [23:58] schestowitz cross-platform functionality [23:58] schestowitz just get on with Microsoft [23:58] schestowitz and XBox [23:58] vZS1 Like I said [23:58] vZS1 MS hates Go [23:58] schestowitz it's all over the 'news' [23:59] schestowitz spread by people sued for Libel!! [23:59] schestowitz Like Dan Goodin [23:59] vZS1 Expect a lot of Go FUD in the "news" [23:59] schestowitz Go search news now for golang [23:59] schestowitz I reckon the page will be googlebombed by this [23:59] schestowitz cause someone wrote some code... in Go [23:59] vZS1 Probably