●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, June 07, 2023 ●●
● Jun 07
[00:00]	bnchs	lol i didn't realize this but
[00:00]	bnchs	reiser actually got beaten up in prison
[00:02]	schestowitz[TR]	"what are YOU here for?
[00:02]	schestowitz[TR]	stabber
[00:02]	schestowitz[TR]	"cut my wife to pieces"
[00:03]	schestowitz[TR]	https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/01/11/matthew-garrett-appointed-to-debian-technical-committee-nearly-17-years-after-saying-debian-made-him-want-to-stab-the-volunteers-working-on-it-and-himself/
[00:03]	TR Bot	 Matthew Garrett appointed to Debian Technical Committee nearly 17 years after saying Debian made him want to stab the volunteers working on it. (And himself.) | BaronHK's Rants
[00:03]	DaemonFC	Cut my wife into pieces. This is my Honda van. Plea bargain. Here's the body. California only gave me ten!
[00:03]	bagirionaire	DaemonFC, masterful
[00:03]	DaemonFC	Nanahahahahanananananananaha
[00:03]	MinceR	lol
[00:05]	schestowitz[TR]	"she was russian anyway"
[00:05]	bnchs	schestowitz[TR]: i wouldn't beat up a murderer
[00:05]	schestowitz[TR]	US gov: paprdon granted
[00:05]	bnchs	but if some nerdy ass bitch
[00:05]	bnchs	comes in after killing his wife
[00:05]	bnchs	i would gladly beat his ass up into a pulp
[00:06]	bnchs	he got beaten by SEVERAL prisoners
[00:06]	bnchs	that's how much they hated him
[00:06]	TR News	Censorship army of slaves https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5d99pn/reddit-api-apollo-app-controversy-explained
[00:06]	TR Bot	 Reddit in Mass Revolt Over Astronomical API Fees That Would Kill Third Party Apps
[00:07]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], That's how you know California isn't Texas. Texas may have taken it into consideration during the death sentence phase if he told them where her body was.
[00:07]	TR News	Uber should be illegal. It's lobbying [sic]... https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/88xxng/uber-is-running-bizarre-ads-either-for-or-against-congestion-pricing
[00:07]	TR Bot	 Uber Is Running Bizarre Ads Either For Or Against Congestion Pricing
[00:08]	bagirionaire	to his credit, his trial really did demonstrate the judicial systems' disdain for polymaths
[00:08]	DaemonFC	Ron DeSantis isn't all bad.
[00:08]	TR News	MN Attorney General sues St. Pauls largest downtown property owner for worker overtime pay https://www.twincities.com/2023/06/05/mn-attorney-general-sues-st-pauls-largest-downtown-property-owner-for-worker-overtime-pay/
[00:08]	TR Bot	 MN Attorney General sues St. Pauls largest downtown property owner for worker overtime pay Twin Cities
[00:08]	DaemonFC	They're trying to pass the death sentence for child molestation in Florida.
[00:08]	DaemonFC	Maybe they'll fly them to a sanctuary state for pedophiles, like Washington or Illinois.
[00:08]	DaemonFC	They already send illegal immigrant pedos and murderers to Chicago, which gives them free rent and free meals and free healthcare.
[00:09]	DaemonFC	Stuff that homeless US citizens don't get.
[00:09]	DaemonFC	Fucking Democrats.
[00:09]	bagirionaire	they need to build a berlin wall around chicago
[00:09]	DaemonFC	I doubt even Hungaristan gives free room and board to illegal immigrants while they're preying on Hungaristani citizens.
[00:10]	DaemonFC	MinceR, ?
[00:10]	DaemonFC	All I really know about eastern Europe is they let this guy named Stan run around naming a bunch of things.
[00:10]	DaemonFC	Weird, right?
[00:10]	TR News	TSMC Has Plans for Price Hikes up to 6% Next Year, Says Report https://www.tomshardware.com/news/tsmc-3-t-6-percent-price-hikes
[00:10]	TR Bot	 TSMC Has Plans for Price Hikes up to 6% Next Year, Says Report | Tom's Hardware
[00:11]	MinceR	DaemonFC: not sure
[00:12]	TR News	That's like telling someone to borrow as much money as possible without ever checking the ability to pay back https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/06/eliminate-debt-ceiling-gdp/674279/
[00:12]	TR Bot	 Get Rid of the Debt Ceiling Once and for All - The Atlantic
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[00:15]	schestowitz[TR]	since someone mentioned CNET earlier
[00:15]	schestowitz[TR]	those are not articles
[00:15]	schestowitz[TR]	they are spew
[00:15]	schestowitz[TR]	mildly curated by someone
[00:15]	schestowitz[TR]	and it's still spew
[00:15]	schestowitz[TR]	and you can tell
[00:16]	schestowitz[TR]	readers won't bother
[00:16]	schestowitz[TR]	low-quality junk
[00:16]	schestowitz[TR]	it does spew out words
[00:16]	schestowitz[TR]	but nothing worth reading
[00:16]	schestowitz[TR]	the technical people abhor that\
[00:16]	schestowitz[TR]	it was the idea of "managers"
[00:16]	schestowitz[TR]	MBAs etc
[00:16]	schestowitz[TR]	people who cannot and do not themselves write articles
[00:16]	schestowitz[TR]	they see it as "content"
[00:17]	schestowitz[TR]	and don't understand word count is the wrong measure
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[00:18]	psydruid	https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/stan%D1%8A
[00:18]	TR Bot	 Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/stan - Wiktionary
[00:19]	TR News	US Gannett Journalists Go on Strike https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/US-Gannett-Journalists-Go-on-Strike-20230605-0014.html
[00:19]	TR Bot	 US Gannett Journalists Go on Strike | News | teleSUR English
[00:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[00:20]	psydruid	https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%A5%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%A8
[00:20]	TR Bot	 - Wiktionary
[00:21]	psydruid	https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%A7%D9%86#Persian
[00:21]	TR Bot	 - Wiktionary
[00:21]	TR News	Tell your readers to install GNU/Linux instead; Windows is an unmitigated mess for years already https://www.techzim.co.zw/2023/06/latest-windows-update-causing-problems-pause-updates-or-uninstall-or-fix-problems/
[00:21]	TR Bot	 Latest Windows update causing problems for many, uninstall or hold off on installing - here's how - Techzim
[00:21]	psydruid	https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Stany_Zjednoczone
[00:21]	TR Bot	 Stany Zjednoczone - Wiktionary
[00:21]	bnchs	>latest windows update causing problems
[00:21]	bnchs	like the millionth time this happened
[00:22]	bnchs	i remember when it first happened in windows 8.1
[00:22]	bnchs	it broke my explorer.exe
[00:22]	bnchs	first time i ever wanted to switch to linux
[00:22]	TR News	technologyreview barely producing even one article per day lately. Is technologyreview finally dying? After becoming a spamfarm on the "way out"? For Microsoft et al?
[00:22]	psydruid	United States is also a kind of Stan, in Polish at least
[00:22]	psydruid	Windows has always been broken
[00:23]	TR News	Belarusian Poet Sarokin Dies In Police Custody https://www.rferl.org/a/belarus-poet-sarokin-dies-police-custody/32445334.html
[00:23]	TR Bot	 Belarusian Poet Sarokin Dies In Police Custody
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[00:26]	TR News	Wife of Vietnamese music teacher on trial calls for his release https://www.rfa.org/english/news/vietnam/teacher-06052023154445.html
[00:26]	TR Bot	 Wife of Vietnamese music teacher on trial calls for his release Radio Free Asia
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[00:30]	TR News	Despite millions in debt, US fugitive Khawaja lives in luxury Vilnius hotel https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/2005452/despite-millions-in-debt-us-fugitive-khawaja-lives-in-luxury-vilnius-hotel
[00:30]	TR Bot	 Despite millions in debt, US fugitive Khawaja lives in luxury Vilnius hotel - LRT
[00:30]	bagirionaire	how has rust not died yet
[00:30]	TR News	As Lithuanias furniture sector falls, workers plead for help https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/2005801/as-lithuania-s-furniture-sector-falls-workers-plead-for-help
[00:30]	TR Bot	 As Lithuanias furniture sector falls, workers plead for help - LRT
[00:31]	TR News	Criminalization of encryption: the 8 december case https://www.laquadrature.net/en/2023/06/05/criminalization-of-encryption-the-8-december-case/
[00:31]	TR Bot	 Criminalization of encryption : the 8 december case La Quadrature du Net
[00:32]	TR News	New UK Police code of conduct recommends recording non-crime hate incidents only when necessary https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/06/new-uk-police-code-of-conduct-recommends-recording-non-crime-hate-incidents-only-when-necessary/
[00:32]	TR Bot	 New UK Police code of conduct recommends recording non-crime hate incidents only when necessary - JURIST - News
[00:34]	bagirionaire	 its not a viable replacement for c-layer
[00:34]	TR News	The EU whose own courts, like the Unified Patent Court, are: 1) illegal 2) unconstitutional 3) in violation of conventions 4) do great financial harm to Europe 5) work for lobbyists, not practitioners. EU being totally hypocritical here. https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/06/top-eu-court-rules-against-poland-in-judicial-independence-case/
[00:34]	TR Bot	 Top EU court rules against Poland in judicial independence case - JURIST - News
[00:36]	MinceR	people nowadays don't seem to care about what is viable
[00:36]	MinceR	the hype train is in full operation
[00:38]	TR News	US Supreme Court takes up case dealing with the use of public figures names and likenesses in trademarks https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/06/us-supreme-court-takes-up-case-dealing-with-the-use-of-public-figures-names-and-likenesses-in-trademarks/
[00:38]	TR Bot	 US Supreme Court takes trademark case on using names and likenesses of public figures - JURIST - News
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[00:41]	TR News	Huge police deployment thwarts Tiananmen crackdown commemorations as Hongkongers detained over candles, clothes, slogans https://hongkongfp.com/2023/06/04/breaking-hong-kong-police-deploy-en-masse-as-tiananmen-crackdown-commemorations-muted/
[00:41]	TR Bot	 Huge police deployment thwarts Tiananmen crackdown commemorations as Hongkongers detained over candles, clothes, slogans - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
[00:41]	TR News	1 arrested, 23 taken away for investigation by Hong Kong police over Tiananmen crackdown commemorations https://hongkongfp.com/2023/06/05/1-arrested-23-taken-away-for-investigation-by-hong-kong-police-over-tiananmen-crackdown-commemorations/
[00:42]	TR Bot	 1 arrested, 23 taken away for investigation by Hong Kong police over Tiananmen crackdown commemorations - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
[00:43]	TR News	"NOTE: I started writing this around New Years not long before the whole WotC OGL situation got started. I was holding off on publishing it because I wanted to find a happier ending to send it off with. The longer I wait, the more certain parts are going to make less sense, so I'm going to get it out faster." gemini://zelena.flounder.online/gemlog/2023-06-06_The_Search_For_An_OSR_System.gmi
[00:44]	TR News	things i wanna do (in no order) gemini://daintyeco.smol.pub/plans2
[00:45]	TR News	"One of the unhelpful things that I commonly experience when I read things about software (and very occasionally other things, but usually software) is the urge to make my own version of whatever the thing is." gemini://gem.twunk.uk/log/2023-06-06-the-urge.gmi
[00:46]	TR News	Overseas Hongkongers, mainland Chinese hold Tiananmen crackdown vigils as citys tribute suppressed https://hongkongfp.com/2023/06/05/overseas-hongkongers-mainland-chinese-hold-tiananmen-crackdown-vigils-as-citys-tribute-supressed/
[00:46]	TR Bot	 Overseas Hongkongers, mainland Chinese hold Tiananmen crackdown vigils as city's tribute suppressed - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
[00:47]	TR News	Hong Kong police urged to give explanation after journalist taken away on Tiananmen crackdown anniversary https://hongkongfp.com/2023/06/06/hong-kong-police-urged-to-give-explanation-after-journalist-taken-away-on-tiananmen-crackdown-anniversary/
[00:47]	TR Bot	 Hong Kong police urged to give explanation after journalist taken away on Tiananmen crackdown anniversary - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
[00:48]	TR News	Brute Forcing Simple Archive Passwords, (Mon, Jun 5th) https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/29914
[00:48]	TR Bot	 InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center
[00:49]	TR News	Snoop Dogg & Dr. Dre Postpone Hollywood Bowl Shows in Solidarity with WGA Writers Strike https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/06/04/snoop-dogg-and-dr-dre-postpone-hollywood-bowl-shows-in-solidarity-with-wga-writers-strike/
[00:49]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/06/04/snoop-dogg-and-dr-dre-postpone-hollywood-bowl-shows-in-solidarity-with-wga-writers-strike/ )
[00:50]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Can't remember the last time I read anything on CNET or ZDNet.
[00:50]	TR News	Spotify Announces 200 Podcasting Layoffs, Combines Parcast and Gimlet, and Revives Spotify Studios Amid Push for A Valuable, High-Margin Business https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/06/05/spotify-podcast-layoffs-june-2023/
[00:50]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/06/05/spotify-podcast-layoffs-june-2023/ )
[00:50]	schestowitz[TR]	zdnet does not publish much
[00:51]	schestowitz[TR]	but afaik, they don't do the chatbot thing... yet
[00:51]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe cnet is their beta turf
[00:51]	schestowitz[TR]	and the writers \are on strike, iirc, still
[00:52]	schestowitz[TR]	if they get fired whhile on strike, the  marketing company that owns cnet needs to pay them
[00:52]	schestowitz[TR]	either way, it
[00:52]	schestowitz[TR]	is common knowedge now what cnet is
[00:53]	schestowitz[TR]	it's spew, mildly curated by a person
[00:53]	schestowitz[TR]	they take some hot topic
[00:53]	schestowitz[TR]	like upcoming football game
[00:53]	schestowitz[TR]	make some psew around it
[00:53]	schestowitz[TR]	for SEO purporse
[00:53]	schestowitz[TR]	and expect people to find that in Gulag Search
[00:53]	schestowitz[TR]	Gulag needs to derank or delist them
[00:53]	schestowitz[TR]	they obv. take the piss
[00:54]	schestowitz[TR]	it is a kind of spamfarm
[00:58]	TR News	Wisconsin Court Grants Temporary Injunction, Confirms Office of Special Counsel Is Obligated to Retain Public Records https://www.americanoversight.org/wisconsin-court-grants-temporary-injunction-confirms-office-of-special-counsel-is-obligated-to-retain-public-records
[00:58]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.americanoversight.org/wisconsin-court-grants-temporary-injunction-confirms-office-of-special-counsel-is-obligated-to-retain-public-records )
[00:58]	bnchs	bagirionaire: it should die
[00:58]	bnchs	it's a crappy overhyped toylang
[00:58]	bnchs	not "mature"
[00:59]	TR News	"Hiding behind the rhetoric is the real objective: to strengthen and consolidate the power and authority of the "global governance regime" and to exploit threatsboth real and imaginedin order to advance regime hegemony." https://unlimitedhangout.com/2023/06/investigative-series/sdg16-part-1-building-the-global-police-state/
[00:59]	TR Bot	 SDG16: Part 1 Building the Global Police State
[00:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[00:59]	bnchs	like, can you imagine today
[00:59]	bnchs	C is 51 years old
[00:59]	bnchs	while these toylangs barely last a year or 2
[00:59]	bagirionaire	bnchs, its fringetech but i dont understand why its generating any attention at all even at that level.  It's not a standards-governed language and is mostly controlled through a discord server like some weebu dragonball merchandise
● Jun 07
[01:00]	bnchs	yes
[01:00]	bnchs	rust doesn't even have standards
[01:00]	TR News	digitalmusicnews spewing out lots of garbage stories about HEY HI in recent months. Playing its own role in the hype -- a cyclic, self-feeding loop.
[01:00]	bnchs	honestly C does the job
[01:01]	bnchs	literally has for 5 decades at this point
[01:01]	bnchs	half a century
[01:01]	TR News	Git Switch: Functionality and Practical Examples https://tecadmin.net/git-switch/
[01:01]	TR Bot	 Git Switch: Functionality and Practical Examples TecAdmin
[01:01]	TR News	Git Restore: Functionality and Practical Examples https://tecadmin.net/git-restore/
[01:01]	TR Bot	 Git Restore: Functionality and Practical Examples TecAdmin
[01:02]	bnchs	and i don't care if it's "memory unsafe"
[01:03]	TR News	The importance of youth activism and art depicted in GROWTHesque https://stanforddaily.com/2023/06/04/the-importance-of-youth-activism-and-art-depicted-in-growthesque/
[01:03]	TR Bot	 The importance of youth activism and art depicted in GROWTHesque
[01:03]	TR News	From the Community | After death threats against its Vietnamese community, Stanford stayed silent. https://stanforddaily.com/2023/06/05/from-the-community-after-death-threats-against-its-vietnamese-community-stanford-stayed-silent/
[01:03]	TR Bot	 From the Community | After death threats against its Vietnamese community, Stanford stayed silent.
[01:04]	TR News	HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI ... everything is now HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI https://staceyoniot.com/privacy-and-ai-in-the-coming-age-of-home-robots/
[01:04]	TR Bot	 Privacy and AI in the coming age of home robots - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
[01:06]	TR News	siliconangle/theCUBE: we just got paid by HP to spam you with lots and lots of pro-HP lies, sponsored by HP (only if you read the fine prints will you notice) https://siliconangle.com/2023/06/05/expect-hpe-discover-join-thecube-june-20-22-hpediscover/ siliconangle = corporate spamfarm for hire http://techrights.org/2023/05/24/siliconangle-sponsored-by-microsoft/
[01:06]	TR Bot	to expect during HPE Discover: Join theCUBE June 20-22 - SiliconANGLE
[01:06]	TR Bot	 SiliconANGLE: Sponsored by Microsoft and Red Hat to Conduct the Marriage Ceremony | Techrights
[01:08]	TR News	Not only Twitter is a sea of bots. Mastodon also becomes that. Social control media is hopeless, use an RSS READER INSTEAD! https://jamesg.blog/2023/06/05/self-care-bot/
[01:08]	TR Bot	 selfcare.tech Bot on Mastodon | James' Coffee Blog
[01:09]	TR News	Mastering file download in shiny https://www.r-bloggers.com/2023/06/mastering-file-download-in-shiny/
[01:09]	TR Bot	file download in shiny | R-bloggers
[01:10]	TR News	File centipede: All-in-one Multi-Protocol File Download/ Upload Manager https://medevel.com/file-centipede/
[01:10]	TR Bot	 File centipede: All-in-one Multi-Protocol File Download/ Upload Manager
[01:10]	TR News	Ketchup: One of the First CMS Systems with Go Language https://medevel.com/ketchup/
[01:10]	TR Bot	 Ketchup: One of the First CMS Systems with Go Language
[01:11]	TR News	GoBlog Is an Open-source Free Blogging System written with Go https://medevel.com/goblog/
[01:11]	TR Bot	 GoBlog Is an Open-source Free Blogging System written with Go
[01:13]	TR News	Next.js Enterprise Boilerplate For Serious Developers https://medevel.com/next-js-enterprise-boilerplate/
[01:13]	TR Bot	 Next.js Enterprise Boilerplate For Serious Developers
[01:16]	psydruid	> [notice] What to expect during HPE Discover: Join theCUBE June 20-22 - SiliconANGLE
[01:16]	psydruid	These kinds of articles are just too funny for words
[01:16]	psydruid	The internet was supposed to enlighten people and this just gutter gossip
[01:16]	psydruid	is*
[01:16]	schestowitz[TR]	worse
[01:16]	schestowitz[TR]	these are lies
[01:16]	schestowitz[TR]	not gossip
[01:16]	schestowitz[TR]	gossip can be true
[01:17]	schestowitz[TR]	this site is like 80% to 90% spam
[01:17]	schestowitz[TR]	but wait
[01:17]	schestowitz[TR]	yes! they still have some real journaklism
[01:17]	schestowitz[TR]	but it's lost in the sea of spam
[01:17]	psydruid	SiliconAngle Recommend Everything!
[01:17]	schestowitz[TR]	sooner or later they cut off the rest
[01:17]	psydruid	S
[01:17]	schestowitz[TR]	and then it's 100% spam, readers delete the feed/bookmark
[01:18]	schestowitz[TR]	psydruid: just pay them
[01:18]	schestowitz[TR]	spamnil brags about being like them
[01:18]	schestowitz[TR]	they are his role model
[01:18]	schestowitz[TR]	he compares himself to them
[01:18]	schestowitz[TR]	"pay me to produce spam for you'
[01:18]	schestowitz[TR]	except theirs have some real traffic
[01:18]	schestowitz[TR]	spamnil makes videos with 10 views
[01:18]	schestowitz[TR]	so he pays spammers
[01:18]	psydruid	The entire IT field has become a disgrace
[01:19]	schestowitz[TR]	for fear they will find ou
[01:19]	schestowitz[TR]	it'ssss not worth the time
[01:19]	schestowitz[TR]	let alone money
[01:19]	schestowitz[TR]	speak to this idiot for hours
[01:19]	schestowitz[TR]	so 10 people might watach the first 10 seconds
[01:19]	schestowitz[TR]	of a 5-minte click
[01:19]	schestowitz[TR]	then say
[01:19]	schestowitz[TR]	"who the fuck is this idiot?"
[01:19]	schestowitz[TR]	and navigate away
[01:19]	schestowitz[TR]	he wants people to think many view his videos
[01:20]	schestowitz[TR]	hence, clickfraud
[01:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[01:20]	schestowitz[TR]	he's do spam for companies you never heard of 
[01:20]	schestowitz[TR]	who do nothing
[01:20]	schestowitz[TR]	like one-man company "CEO"
[01:20]	schestowitz[TR]	from some shitty country
[01:20]	schestowitz[TR]	no value proposition
[01:20]	schestowitz[TR]	just a chat with spamnil
[01:20]	schestowitz[TR]	to be watched by 10 peoiple
[01:20]	schestowitz[TR]	for 10 seconds
[01:21]	schestowitz[TR]	but he insists thousand watched it
[01:21]	schestowitz[TR]	he is "extremely well-connected"
[01:21]	schestowitz[TR]	and "filmmaker"
[01:21]	schestowitz[TR]	according to him
[01:21]	psydruid	to his backside
[01:21]	schestowitz[TR]	pretender and charlatan
[01:21]	schestowitz[TR]	like jim zemlin
[01:21]	psydruid	I hope it didn't come loose
[01:21]	schestowitz[TR]	jim is married to an actual fraud
[01:22]	schestowitz[TR]	the frauds who know how to dodge arrests
[01:22]	schestowitz[TR]	and  they find this spamming
[01:22]	schestowitz[TR]	using LF slush fund
[01:22]	schestowitz[TR]	anyway, i stopped doing blog posts abou8t him
[01:22]	schestowitz[TR]	not worth the time anymore
[01:22]	schestowitz[TR]	and many understand his modus already
[01:23]	bagirionaire	one of my ex's is running from a fraud charge lol
[01:23]	schestowitz[TR]	mit tech review and "theCube" are similar
[01:23]	schestowitz[TR]	my former boss commited fraud
[01:23]	schestowitz[TR]	he ran to the US
[01:23]	schestowitz[TR]	but his crimes become a domestic scandal here
[01:24]	schestowitz[TR]	it's still early on, i have a plan to last till next year
[01:24]	schestowitz[TR]	it''l leave many orgs bruised
[01:24]	schestowitz[TR]	my lists are private for now
[01:25]	schestowitz[TR]	strategic reason
[01:26]	TR News	'Journalism' in Murdochland https://nypost.com/2023/06/05/dog-sets-world-record-for-longest-tongue-we-thought-shed-grow-into-it/
[01:26]	TR Bot	 Dog sets world record for longest tongue: 'We thought she'd grow into it'
[01:30]	TR News	Stan class at NYR Conference in July (in person and virtual) https://www.r-bloggers.com/2023/06/stan-class-at-nyr-conference-in-july-in-person-and-virtual/
[01:30]	TR Bot	class at NYR Conference in July (in person and virtual) | R-bloggers
[01:31]	TR News	California insurance market rattled by withdrawal of major companies https://federalnewsnetwork.com/business-news/2023/06/california-insurance-market-rattled-by-withdrawal-of-major-companies/
[01:31]	TR Bot	 California insurance market rattled by withdrawal of major companies | Federal News Network
[01:33]	TR News	Fails to mention mass layoffs in the company this year https://siliconangle.com/2023/06/05/solid-earnings-beat-strong-forecast-send-gitlabs-stock-soaring/
[01:33]	TR Bot	earnings beat and strong forecast send GitLab's stock soaring - SiliconANGLE
[01:36]	TR News	siliconangle: we got bribed by something called Snowflake Summit to spam our own site with a bunch of bullshit from Snowflake Summit sponsors. "Join theCUBE June 27 to 29" to read our lies and spam https://siliconangle.com/2023/06/05/expect-snowflake-summit-join-thecube-june-27-29-snowflakesummit/
[01:36]	TR Bot	to expect during 'Snowflake Summit': Join theCUBE June 27 to 29 - SiliconANGLE
[01:37]	TR News	Hales on PCIe over USB (or lack thereof) https://rubenerd.com/hales-on-pcie-over-usb/
[01:37]	TR Bot	Hales on PCIe over USB (or lack thereof)
[01:38]	TR News	Getting frustrated at inanimate IT objects https://rubenerd.com/getting-angry-at-inanimate-it-objects/
[01:38]	TR Bot	Getting frustrated at inanimate IT objects
[01:38]	psydruid	lol, Snowflake Summit
[01:39]	psydruid	I know what it is, but it just sounds funny
[01:39]	schestowitz[TR]	y u so racist !
[01:40]	psydruid	pay for your database running and growing in the Clown
[01:40]	psydruid	these egress fees are generally ridiculous
[01:41]	TR News	USPS rural carriers frustrated with new pay system leading to pay cuts on most routes https://federalnewsnetwork.com/pay/2023/06/usps-rural-carriers-frustrated-with-new-pay-system-leading-to-pay-cuts-on-most-routes/
[01:41]	TR Bot	 Two-thirds of USPS rural carriers see significant pay cuts under new system | Federal News Network
[01:41]	psydruid	it's basically like being held to ransom
[01:41]	psydruid	why would you ever put up with that
[01:42]	schestowitz[TR]	also privacy issue
[01:42]	schestowitz[TR]	legal issues
[01:42]	schestowitz[TR]	not just economic
[01:44]	TR News	While purchasing power also massively deflated https://eng.lsm.lv/article/economy/economy/05.06.2023-industrial-production-down-7-in-latvia.a511506/
[01:44]	TR Bot	 Industrial production down 7% in Latvia / Article
[01:44]	psydruid	the clown should basically be outlawed
[01:44]	TR News	Watchdog requests Latvian public media financing at 0.16% of GDP https://eng.lsm.lv/article/features/media-literacy/05.06.2023-watchdog-requests-latvian-public-media-financing-at-016-of-gdp.a511511/
[01:45]	TR Bot	 Watchdog requests Latvian public media financing at 0.16% of GDP / Article
[01:47]	TR News	But at the same time EU attacks the law, attacks constitutions, and attacks European companies. See what it just did with UPC. A total disgrace, third world standards. https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/IP_23_3060
[01:47]	TR Bot	 Press corner | European Commission
[01:48]	TR News	If the EU continues to participate in EPO crimes, it'll get disbanded by popular demand, along with EUIPO. EC also become a den of corruption, nothing to do with unity.
[01:49]	TR News	EU should be renamed Lobbying Union. That also unites lobbyists from east (Asia) and West (US).
[01:50]	TR News	EU cannot just keep shouting "RACIST!" at people who merely oppose corruption. That tactic won't work for long.
[01:50]	TR News	Participatory Design to Support University to High School Curricular Transition/Translation in FIE 2022 https://computinged.wordpress.com/2023/06/05/participatory-design-to-support-university-to-high-school-curricular-transitiontranslation-in-fie-2022/
[01:50]	TR Bot	 Participatory Design to Support University to High School Curricular Transition/Translation in FIE 2022 | Computing Ed Research - Guzdial's Take
[01:51]	TR News	Road rage on a plane https://qz.com/airlines-are-dealing-with-a-sharp-uptick-in-unruly-pass-1850505134
[01:51]	TR Bot	 Airlines grapple with sharp rise in unruly passenger behavior
[01:52]	TR News	It's not free. They mine their data, they sell their lives. They control them. https://qz.com/kerala-offers-free-hi-speed-internet-to-2-mn-poor-1850505362
[01:52]	TR Bot	 Kerala is offering free hi-speed internet to 2 mn poor people
[01:53]	TR News	qz is less than 50% spam, but that % grows over time. The editor in chief resigned days ago. That typically begets worsening, not improvement.
[01:54]	TR News	Spotify loses a billion dollars a year and paying Rogan $100,000,000 was an epic, costly failure https://qz.com/spotifys-latest-layoffs-target-its-podcast-business-1850505992
[01:54]	TR Bot	 Spotify's latest layoffs target the company's podcast business
[01:56]	TR News	Venture capital funding for crypto firms has plummeted in 2023 https://qz.com/venture-capital-funding-crypto-firms-plunge-in-2023-1850506521 ttps://siliconangle.com/2023/06/05/sec-sues-binance-founder-changpeng-zhao-securities-law-violations/
[01:56]	TR Bot	 Venture capital funding for crypto firms has plummeted in 2023
[01:56]	TR News	Remember blockchain? Yesteryear's "HEY HI"....
[01:57]	TR News	"violating securities laws." https://siliconangle.com/2023/06/05/sec-sues-binance-founder-changpeng-zhao-securities-law-violations
[01:57]	TR Bot	sues Binance and founder Changpeng Zhao over securities law violations - SiliconANGLE
[01:58]	TR News	OK, we see what you did there, Qz. You're spamming for Hubspot now. Really bad... another sellout publisher. It only took DAYS after the Editor in Chief RESIGNED (or forced out).
[01:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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[02:00]	TR News	Untarnished (by bribes) publishers on the Web are becoming too few. The rest are usually owned by oligarchs, which is another kind of issue.
[02:00]	TR News	Still comes with BACK DOORS https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/06/05/200-chuwi-larkbox-x-gets-processor-n100-option/
[02:00]	TR Bot	 $200 CHUWI LarkBox X gets Processor N100 option - CNX Software
[02:02]	psydruid	pay more for less performance
[02:02]	psydruid	less freedom
[02:02]	psydruid	and more malware
[02:04]	schestowitz[TR]	i think the chuwi company paid them
[02:04]	schestowitz[TR]	with gifts
[02:04]	schestowitz[TR]	but cannot recall fort sure
[02:04]	schestowitz[TR]	you can search for otther articles in that site
[02:04]	schestowitz[TR]	see how many gifts they got
[02:04]	schestowitz[TR]	iirc, chuwi is always windows
[02:04]	psydruid	and CHUWI in turn got paid by Intel and Microsoft
[02:04]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe in the distant past some linux option
[02:05]	psydruid	I'll buy a CHUWI box for 50
[02:05]	schestowitz[TR]	""
[02:05]	schestowitz[TR]	CHUWI UBook Pro is a Low-Cost Alternative to Microsoft Surface Pro 6 with an Intel m3-8100Y Processor (Crowdfunding) 
[02:05]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.cnx-software.com/news/chuwi/
[02:05]	TR Bot	 chuwi News - CNX Software - Embedded Systems News
[02:05]	schestowitz[TR]	linux not even mentioned  once in the page
[02:06]	schestowitz[TR]	so many it's paid spam
[02:06]	schestowitz[TR]	"ubuntu"
[02:06]	schestowitz[TR]	not mentioned either
[02:06]	schestowitz[TR]	probably more CNX spam
[02:06]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2022/05/24/cnx-is-back-to-shitposting/
[02:06]	TR Bot	 Unethical Advertising, Published as So-called Articles, in CNX Software | Techrights
[02:06]	psydruid	https://minix.com.hk/
[02:06]	TR Bot	 Home - Minix
[02:07]	TR News	France to invest nearly 3 billion in semiconductor factory to boost local production https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230605-france-to-invest-nearly-%E2%82%AC3-billion-in-semiconductor-factory-to-boost-local-production
[02:07]	TR Bot	 France to invest nearly 3 billion in semiconductor factory to boost local production
[02:07]	psydruid	the one and only MINIX
[02:07]	TR News	But Macron can attack millions of workers. The banksters protect him. https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230605-trial-begins-for-three-men-who-attacked-brigitte-macron-s-relative
[02:07]	TR Bot	 French court sentences two men who attacked Brigitte Macron's relative to jail
[02:10]	TR News	Ripping Off Professional Criminals by Fermenting Onions - Phishing Darknet Users for Bitcoins https://shufflingbytes.com/posts/ripping-off-professional-criminals-by-fermenting-onions-phishing-darknet-users-for-bitcoins/
[02:10]	TR Bot	 Ripping Off Professional Criminals by Fermenting Onions - Phishing Darknet Users for Bitcoins
[02:10]	TR News	Don't use Windows. But this site gets money from Microsoft. https://siliconangle.com/2023/06/05/new-ways-reduce-chances-ransomware-attacks/
[02:10]	TR Bot	ways to reduce the chances of ransomware attacks - SiliconANGLE
[02:10]	schestowitz[TR]	psydruid: yes, they hijacked the brand
[02:10]	schestowitz[TR]	while the real MINIX has had no change
[02:11]	schestowitz[TR]	in 5 years
[02:11]	schestowitz[TR]	effectively dead
[02:11]	psydruid	https://www.europages.nl/UITZENDBUREAU-LINUX-BV/NLD085908-00101.html
[02:11]	TR Bot	 UITZENDBUREAU LINUX B.V., Internationale personeelsselectie - adviesbureaus, Tijdelijk personeel - internationale wervingsbureaus - Europages
[02:11]	schestowitz[TR]	they warped the name MINIX
[02:11]	schestowitz[TR]	now it's Windows
[02:11]	schestowitz[TR]	I complained about that eyars ago
[02:11]	psydruid	probably paid by Microsoft too
[02:12]	schestowitz[TR]	yeah
[02:12]	schestowitz[TR]	usually
[02:12]	schestowitz[TR]	"partner"
[02:12]	TR News	How To Use The Raspberry Pi Imager https://www.slashgear.com/1301035/how-to-use-the-raspberry-pi-imager/
[02:12]	TR Bot	 How To Use The Raspberry Pi Imager
[02:15]	TR News	Debian 12 is nearly ready, and reassuringly boring The Register http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Debian_12_Out_in_Several_Days_From_Now.shtml
[02:15]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Debian 12 Out in Several Days From Now (UPDATED)
[02:16]	XRevan86	"How To Use The Raspberry Pi Imager" <- That's the neat part, ye don't.
[02:18]	TR News	zdnet seems not to employ an editor except a few times a week, maybe down to 1 now. I.e. they'd publish people's (contributors') articles in bulk, all in one day or few days. You cannot run NEWS sites like that... just commentary.
[02:19]	TR News	Microsoft trash. Come on, Liam, you can do better than this ...... https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/nonsteamlaunchers-adds-support-for-the-minecraft-launcher-and-lots-of-bug-fixes/
[02:19]	TR Bot	adds support for the Minecraft Launcher and lots of bug fixes | GamingOnLinux
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[02:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[02:20]	TR News	No, don't expect GNU/Linux support if the criminals from Microsoft bribe their way around CMA to buy the studio https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/diablo-4-on-steam-deck-released/
[02:20]	TR Bot	4 on Steam Deck is quite magnificent (and desktop Linux too!) | GamingOnLinux
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[02:21]	TR News	iPhone run malware out of the box, sooo... https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-tool-scans-iphones-for-triangulation-malware-infection/
[02:21]	TR Bot	 New tool scans iPhones for 'Triangulation' malware infection
[02:22]	TR News	"...hybrid cloud without slowing innovation." WHAT? Decipher the buzzword-speak. https://www.dbta.com/Editorial/News-Flashes/Red-Hat-Insights-Expands-Beyond-Analytics-to-Provide-Simplified-Linux-Management-158938.aspx
[02:22]	TR Bot	 Red Hat Insights Expands Beyond Analytics to Provide Simplified Linux Management - Database Trends and Applications
[02:23]	TR News	IBM bruised itself. Now companies come out of nowhere to take Red Hat's business. https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230605005082/en/TuxCare%E2%80%99s-KernelCare-Enterprise-Now-Supports-Red-Hat-EUS-Kernels
[02:24]	bagirionaire	now that is interesting
[02:25]	TR News	"The Linux Foundation has published its best seller The Open Source Opportunity for Microgrids" https://www.fudzilla.com/news/57021-linux-foundation-pushes-micro-grids composed using proprietary software http://techrights.org/2023/06/02/linux-foundation-powered-by-proprietary-software/
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[02:25]	psydruid	I hope they'll take all of Red Hat's business
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[02:25]	TechrightsBot-tr	Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77
[02:26]	TR News	Better off, stop paying Intel, use a better chipset without back doors https://www.fudzilla.com/news/57022-linux-based-system76-prefers-to-shut-off-the-intel-management-engine
[02:26]	TR Bot	 Linux-based System76 prefers to shut off the Intel Management Engine
[02:26]	TR News	Security updates for Tuesday https://lwn.net/Articles/934010/
[02:26]	TR Bot	updates for Tuesday [LWN.net]
[02:28]	TR News	But Chrome ITSELF is malicious software, or malware for short https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/malicious-chrome-extensions-with-75m-installs-removed-from-web-store/
[02:28]	TR Bot	 Malicious Chrome extensions with 75M installs removed from Web Store
[02:29]	TR News	Gulag does not look after your security. It does the OPPOSITE. It's stealing all your data. Don't fall for inversion PR tactics. Like Gulag "protecting women" when in fact it profits from the Pentagon... helping to BOMB women.
[02:30]	TR News	Microsoft is to blame, but of course Microsoft blames Russia (or China) to change public opinion https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/05/british_airways_boots_moveit/
[02:30]	TR Bot	 British Airways, BBC hit in MOVEit supply-chain attack The Register
[02:31]	psydruid	Microsoft blames BRICS and BRIC-layers
[02:31]	TR News	Microsoft executives need to be arrested for the security failings (deliberate), not approached for advice on security and even paid for their time.
[02:32]	TR News	Pacific Union College was attacked on March 27. When will they publicly admit personal info was compromised? https://www.databreaches.net/pacific-union-college-was-attacked-on-march-27-when-will-they-publicly-admit-personal-info-was-compromised/
[02:32]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/pacific-union-college-was-attacked-on-march-27-when-will-they-publicly-admit-personal-info-was-compromised/ )
[02:33]	TR News	"On June 5, 2023, in the U.S. case against Conor Brian Fitzpatrick (Pompompurin of BreachForums), Lauren Pomerantz Halper was added as an attorney for the U.S." https://www.databreaches.net/coincidence-or-is-something-up-in-the-courts/
[02:33]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/coincidence-or-is-something-up-in-the-courts/ )
[02:35]	TR News	Links 06/06/2023: OpenKuBSD, GrapheneOS, and More | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/06/openkubsd-grapheneos-and-more/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/06/openkubsd-grapheneos-and-more/
[02:35]	TR Bot	 Links 06/06/2023: OpenKuBSD, GrapheneOS, and More | Techrights
[02:37]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Coke-flation
[02:38]	DaemonFC	McDonalds increased the price of a Coke from $1 to $1.39.
[02:38]	DaemonFC	You know, you have to do that to cover the 2-3 cents of syrup you go through even if they get a couple refills.
[02:39]	DaemonFC	GULAG tips the customary amount (for cold pizza, I guess).
[02:39]	DaemonFC	If no GrubHub driver in San Francisco would get it for so long that it went stone cold....
[02:40]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], I remember when Papa John's was new.
[02:40]	DaemonFC	Or at least still kind of an Indiana thing.
[02:40]	DaemonFC	Back in the 90s.
[02:40]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-060623.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-060623.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-060623.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-060623.txt
[02:40]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, June 06, 2023
[02:41]	DaemonFC	You got a pizza, it was hot, it was juicy, it was loaded with toppings, several inches thick.
[02:41]	DaemonFC	And they were like six bucks for that.
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[02:41]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, June 06, 2023
[02:42]	DaemonFC	Now it's like "Oh that $28 pizza is $18 with a coupon." (There's always a coupon.) but the quality has gone down. The toppings are getting real real skimpy.
[02:42]	DaemonFC	Their sauces come in cans.
[02:42]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-060623.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-060623.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-060623.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-060623.txt
[02:42]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, June 06, 2023
[02:43]	TR News	Links 06/06/2023: Angie 1.2.0, New EasyOS and EndeavourOS Released | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/06/new-easyos-and-endeavouros/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/06/new-easyos-and-endeavouros/
[02:43]	TR Bot	 Links 06/06/2023: Angie 1.2.0, New EasyOS and EndeavourOS Released | Techrights
[02:43]	mjg59_	DaemonFC: It's weird that you're so obsessed with this pizza
[02:43]	mjg59_	DaemonFC: It was picked up on time, and then the driver drove to the other side of the city to drop off another order
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[02:43]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, June 06, 2023
[02:43]	DaemonFC	Not obsessed enough to send printouts of it certified mail to Roy's wife.
[02:44]	schestowitz[TR]	mrpizza gulag
[02:44]	mjg59_	Yeah that would be a weird thing to do
[02:44]	TR News	 (NEW): OSMC's June update is here with Kodi v20 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/OSMC_s_June_update_is_here_with_Kodi_v20.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/OSMC_s_June_update_is_here_with_Kodi_v20.gmi 
[02:44]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines OSMC's June update is here with Kodi v20
[02:44]	TR News	 (NEW): Debian 12 Out in Several Days From Now (UPDATED) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Debian_12_Out_in_Several_Days_From_Now.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/05/Debian_12_Out_in_Several_Days_From_Now.gmi 
[02:44]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Debian 12 Out in Several Days From Now (UPDATED)
[02:45]	schestowitz[TR]	stalker threatens stalking target
[02:45]	schestowitz[TR]	news at 9
[02:45]	TR News	 (NEW): Linux distro hopping is a fun way to find the perfect desktop operating system http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Linux_distro_hopping_is_a_fun_way_to_find_the_perfect_desktop_o.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Linux_distro_hopping_is_a_fun_way_to_find_the_perfect_desktop_o.gmi 
[02:45]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Linux distro hopping is a fun way to find the perfect desktop operating system
[02:45]	TR News	Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2023-06-06.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2023-06-06.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
[02:45]	DaemonFC	Went from allegedly groping people at conferences to stiffed a delivery driver.
[02:45]	DaemonFC	What is that? "Throw that in too! I AM NOT CHEAP!"
[02:47]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: back on topic now, did you consider what to do next?
[02:47]	schestowitz[TR]	moving out maybe?
[02:47]	DaemonFC	Possibly.
[02:47]	schestowitz[TR]	is tthere a place in IN that has decent worm for you?
[02:47]	schestowitz[TR]	*work
[02:47]	mjg59_	Who alleged I groped people at conferences?
[02:47]	schestowitz[TR]	sorry, bad typo
[02:47]	DaemonFC	I read the letter that you yourself posted.
[02:47]	mjg59_	Which one?
[02:48]	mjg59_	Are you saying that Roy alleged I groped people at conferences?
[02:48]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2021/03/05/google-funded-trolls/
[02:48]	TR Bot	 Professional Troll Matthew Garrett Spreads Libel, Defamation and Slander About the Free Software Community to Entertain Microsoft and Friends | Techrights
[02:48]	schestowitz[TR]	you kept insinuating I'm pro-rape
[02:48]	DaemonFC	The section on conference sexual predators.
[02:48]	schestowitz[TR]	anyway, re Indiana
[02:48]	schestowitz[TR]	seems it might be better
[02:48]	mjg59_	schestowitz[TR]: When?
[02:49]	schestowitz[TR]	and you get to se FELTA
[02:49]	DaemonFC	Was that an alleged groping or was it worse?
[02:49]	mjg59_	DaemonFC: So you mean the accusation Roy made?
[02:50]	DaemonFC	mjg59_, So as an alleged conference predator, can you tell me, allegedly, how those cool active camouflage things work, or those energy blasters?
[02:50]	DaemonFC	:D
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[02:50]	mjg59_	DaemonFC: I'm really just looking for clarity here. When you say "Alleged conference predator", are you referring to anything other than Roy's accusations regarding me?
[02:51]	DaemonFC	I was making a joke about the Predator media franchise by combining "conferences" with "predator".
[02:52]	schestowitz[TR]	Gulag worked for predator drone company
[02:52]	schestowitz[TR]	which MMURDERS people
[02:52]	schestowitz[TR]	much worse
[02:53]	schestowitz[TR]	don't be missing out, kids
[02:53]	schestowitz[TR]	make attack helicopters
[02:53]	schestowitz[TR]	to attack women
[02:53]	schestowitz[TR]	attack kids
[02:53]	mjg59_	DaemonFC: Yes, I'm aware. Was the joke referring to anything other than Roy's allegations?
[02:53]	schestowitz[TR]	for profit
[02:53]	schestowitz[TR]	send threats to women
[02:53]	schestowitz[TR]	acid comes later, ladies
[02:53]	mjg59_	schestowitz[TR]: Predator drone company?
[02:53]	schestowitz[TR]	gulag boy won't miss out again
[02:53]	schestowitz[TR]	the boy wants his "sugar"
[02:53]	schestowitz[TR]	"Gulag, send me to a confewrence"
[02:53]	schestowitz[TR]	"Google, I want some pussy"
[02:54]	schestowitz[TR]	"Gulag, you paid 40 million bucks to Andy Rubin"
[02:54]	schestowitz[TR]	"to HIDE how he used his boss position to get blow jobs from his subordinates"
[02:54]	schestowitz[TR]	Gulagbopy the WSJ
[02:54]	schestowitz[TR]	Never missing out on some conference sex
[02:54]	schestowitz[TR]	*SJW
[02:54]	schestowitz[TR]	That's also a tranphobe
[02:54]	schestowitz[TR]	who us still causing tranphopbia
[02:55]	schestowitz[TR]	by reinforccing stigmas about trans peopler
[02:55]	schestowitz[TR]	which he is not
[02:55]	schestowitz[TR]	nobofdy hjurts trans people more than him
[02:55]	mjg59_	If by "causing transphobia" you mean "roy keeps saying transphobic shit", sure?
[02:55]	schestowitz[TR]	then again, as a 25-year-old he was openly transphobic
[02:55]	schestowitz[TR]	now he just daemonises that community
[02:55]	DaemonFC	Transphobic conference sex.
[02:55]	schestowitz[TR]	which alreayd suffered aenough
[02:55]	DaemonFC	That's not something you hear about.
[02:55]	schestowitz[TR]	by buyllying people who are not transphobic
[02:55]	DaemonFC	I think it's under-reported in the MSM.
[02:55]	schestowitz[TR]	under the guise of "protecting" trans
[02:56]	schestowitz[TR]	and then wonder why the hostilities
[02:56]	mjg59_	Roy, you've made repeated transphobic comments in the past week alone
[02:56]	schestowitz[TR]	btw, trans people hate him
[02:56]	schestowitz[TR]	many hate him
[02:56]	schestowitz[TR]	they see his spiel
[02:56]	schestowitz[TR]	for sure I know some trnas people
[02:56]	schestowitz[TR]	who HATE his guys
[02:56]	schestowitz[TR]	guts
[02:56]	schestowitz[TR]	he not only exploits them
[02:56]	schestowitz[TR]	but gives them a terrible name
[02:56]	schestowitz[TR]	they tell me that
[02:56]	schestowitz[TR]	clkearly and directly
[02:56]	schestowitz[TR]	gulagboy is enemy of trna people
[02:56]	schestowitz[TR]	he wqas 120 years ago
[02:56]	schestowitz[TR]	he still is
[02:56]	mjg59_	(They go to another school though, you wouldn't know them)
[02:56]	schestowitz[TR]	*20
[02:57]	schestowitz[TR]	(i won';t name these people
[02:57]	schestowitz[TR]	they hate gulagboy with a psssion
[02:57]	schestowitz[TR]	trans people hate him
[02:57]	schestowitz[TR]	they know he only uses one of them
[02:57]	schestowitz[TR]	for s3ex
[02:57]	schestowitz[TR]	(buffy)(
[02:57]	schestowitz[TR]	and now he incites people against trans people
[02:57]	schestowitz[TR]	like he did with RMS
[02:58]	mjg59_	I know over 20 billion people who say that roy is a big silly and they all get together and laugh about him
[02:58]	schestowitz[TR]	anyway, back to work now
[02:58]	schestowitz[TR]	no tiem to deal with hate criminals likem gulagboy
[02:58]	mjg59_	That's a lot of people!
[02:58]	schestowitz[TR]	biab, maybe 60 mins
[02:58]	mjg59_	More than are even alive!
[02:58]	mjg59_	That's how unpopular he is
[02:59]	mjg59_	I didn't believe it, so I went back and counted again
[02:59]	mjg59_	And still over 20 billion
[02:59]	mjg59_	Incredible
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[02:59]	mjg59_	DaemonFC: So, do you have any reason for suggesting that I'm alleged to have groped people at conferences other than from Roy?
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[03:01]	DaemonFC	Conference groping is a very serious problem.
[03:02]	mjg59_	DaemonFC: I agree! What makes you think I'm alleged to have done so?
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[03:18]	schestowitz[TR]	<DaemonFC> Conference groping is a very serious problem.
[03:18]	schestowitz[TR]	yes, and no joking matter
[03:19]	schestowitz[TR]	neither is stabbing
[03:19]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2023/01/11/debian-technical-committee-suicide/
[03:19]	TR Bot	 Matthew Garrett Appointed to Debian Technical Committee Nearly 17 Years After Saying Debian Made Him Want to Stab the Volunteers Working on it. (And Himself.) | Techrights
[03:19]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2023/01/16/stabbing-linux/
[03:19]	TR Bot	 Matthew Garrett, Who Said He Wanted to Stab Debian Developers, is Working for Microsoft Inside Linux (to Remove Users Freedom) | Techrights
[03:19]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/matthew-garrett-transphobic/
[03:19]	TR Bot	 Matthew Garrett Admits Being a Transphobic Adult Before Choosing to Weaponise This to Defame and Then Cancel People Who Arent Transphobic | Techrights
[03:19]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2023/04/22/gulagboy-defending-criminals/
[03:19]	TR Bot	 The Gulagboy Matthew Garrett is Once Again Defending Criminals | Techrights
[03:19]	schestowitz[TR]	https://techrights.org/2022/08/01/headhunting-matthew-garrett/
[03:19]	TR Bot	 Microsoft is Trying to Hire (Read: Pay Salaries to) Matthew Garrett | Techrights
[03:19]	schestowitz[TR]	we deal with a dangerous sociopath here
[03:19]	schestowitz[TR]	and a fraud
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[03:20]	schestowitz[TR]	gulag, you're not l, not g, not b, not t... you're just a complete, total idiot, a sick and greedy opportunist riding victims' backs to promote your career. You were openly transphobic and you want gays banned. 
[03:20]	schestowitz[TR]	And LGBT people _SEE_ it and _TELL_ this to me (no, I cannot name them; you'd  probably attack them too). STOP USING THEM AS POLITICAL PROPS and as your PRIVATE SEX OBJECTS, pervert. Stop abusing them. Enough. They're NOT stupid, they know what you really are.
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[03:21]	tessier	uh....who are we talking about here? :D
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[03:21]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[03:21]	mjg59_	Me, apparently?
[03:22]	mjg59_	schestowitz[TR]: You were openly transphobic yesterday
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[03:22]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Free, Libre, and Open Source Software: LibreOffice, Blogging Systems, and Mastodon
[03:23]	TR News	How to kill your tech career for good? Have a job at Microsoft. https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/news/story/ex-microsoft-employee-says-he-did-not-get-any-job-offers-even-after-applying-to-more-than-1000-places-2389349-2023-06-06
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[03:24]	TR News	Good riddance, Conde Nast. You had staff at Reddit? Not just unpaid volunteers (slaves) and peripheral corporate operatives of Microsoft? https://sg.news.yahoo.com/reddit-lay-off-5-workforce-225149322.html
[03:24]	TR Bot	 Reddit to Lay Off 5% of Workforce, Citing Company Restructuring
[03:25]	tessier	Wow. Way too much scroll and drama for me. :D I seem to have transcended IRC drama in the early 2000s.
[03:25]	mjg59_	schestowitz[TR]: Remember saying "Jim Zemlin speaking "for" Linux is like trans women speaking for women"?
[03:25]	TR News	"Slowing Hiring" is how Rupert Murdoch's propaganda apparatus says LAYOFFS https://www.wsj.com/articles/reddit-is-cutting-about-5-of-its-workforce-and-slowing-hiring-amid-restructuring-63cfade9
[03:25]	TR Bot	Laying Off About 90 Employees and Slowing Hiring Amid Restructuring - WSJ
[03:25]	tessier	Once DALnet got DOSd to death that was the end.
[03:25]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: walmart has "Slowing Hiring":
[03:25]	schestowitz[TR]	is mandy affected by the "Slowing Hiring"?
[03:26]	mjg59_	schestowitz[TR]: You understand that that was a transphobic thing to say, right?
[03:26]	mjg59_	schestowitz[TR]: And you understand that even if you believe I'm transphobic, that doesn't prevent you from being so?
[03:27]	TR News	Tons of executives leave XBox this year. Will Microsoft shut down XBox within months? https://gameworldobserver.com/2023/06/06/david-ellis-leaves-343-industries-after-13-years-halo see http://techrights.org/2023/05/06/xbox-sales-really-bad/
[03:27]	TR Bot	 343 Industries loses another experienced dev as Halo game designer David Ellis leaves studio after 13 years | Game World Observer
[03:27]	TR Bot	 Why Microsoft Was Trying to Buy Activision and Look Big in 2022 (XBox Was Failing, XBox as a Whole Might Die Soon) | Techrights
[03:27]	tessier	Glad I never got an offer from Microsoft or worked for any company that got acquired by Microsoft like Github.
[03:28]	tessier	I still have all of my code in Github. But that's because it's what all of my clients and everyone uses these days. But I don't feel as bad about it there isn't much proprietary lock-in there as there is with Windows or Office or Azure etc.
[03:29]	mjg59_	Yeah I avoided being acquired by Oracle by three days
[03:29]	TR News	Too small a fine. They'll carry on with the espionage at an industrial scale. Got pubes? WE SPY. Don't have them? Oops, hopefully we won't get caught. https://www.arabnews.com/node/2316591/media
[03:29]	TR Bot	 US fines Microsoft $20 million over child data violations | Arab News
[03:30]	mjg59_	Kind of a relief
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[03:32]	TR News	news should not even be a business https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/386046/cnns-licht-apologizes-to-newsroom-as-critics-di.html
[03:32]	TR Bot	 CNN's Licht Apologizes To Newsroom, As Critics' Dire Predictions Intensify 06/06/2023
[03:32]	TR News	But according to CORPORATE media, the economy is OK, In fact, Biden has just SAVED it. https://www.newsontheneck.com/news/national/as-post-pandemic-enrollment-lags-schools-compete-for-fewer-students/collection_45a4f4af-6a72-58ca-8121-d35eff8e17d6.html
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[03:33]	TR News	T-Mobile lays off almost 70% of its notable customer service team https://www.androidheadlines.com/2023/06/t-mobile-lays-off-70-percent-of-its-customer-service-team.html
[03:33]	TR Bot	 T-Mobile lays off almost 70% of its notable customer service team
[03:33]	mjg59_	Anyway it's pretty clear that Roy is just trying to deflect from his own transphobia by accusing others
[03:33]	mjg59_	Given, well, he keeps being fucking transphobic
[03:33]	mjg59_	Suggesting that trans women aren't women, deliberately misgendering people, and so on
[03:34]	mjg59_	Things that are generally agreed to be transphobic!
[03:34]	mjg59_	I'm not using some niche definition here
[03:35]	TR News	Buyback, layoff, roadkill - how the modern US financial system works - as explained by Warren Buffet. There is a reason your job is moving to India - let him explain why. Vote. Form a Union. You as labor are under attack. https://old.reddit.com/r/WellsFargoUnited/comments/13ps4kj/buyback_layoff_roadkill_how_the_modern_us/
[03:35]	TR Bot	 Buyback, layoff, roadkill - how the modern US financial system works - as explained by Warren Buffet. There is a reason your job is moving to India - let him explain why. Vote. Form a Union. You as labor are under attack. : WellsFargoUnited
[03:36]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], I'm on their Essentials 55+ plan.
[03:36]	schestowitz[TR]	what is that?
[03:36]	schestowitz[TR]	age 55?>
[03:36]	DaemonFC	Yeah.
[03:36]	schestowitz[TR]	i see
[03:36]	schestowitz[TR]	17 years away
[03:36]	DaemonFC	Basic smartphone plans for seniors.
[03:36]	schestowitz[TR]	or 16
[03:36]	DaemonFC	Yeah.
[03:36]	schestowitz[TR]	well, service will deteriorate
[03:36]	DaemonFC	Someone at Sprint gave it to me before they got fired. Their 55+ plan.
[03:37]	schestowitz[TR]	they want to impress shareholders
[03:37]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe you'll getg phone menus
[03:37]	DaemonFC	Then when I noticed T-Mobile had a better one, I asked them to move me to theirs.
[03:37]	schestowitz[TR]	instead of support
[03:37]	DaemonFC	They didn't question it since I was already on one.
[03:37]	schestowitz[TR]	"go to our web site
[03:37]	schestowitz[TR]	"
[03:37]	DaemonFC	So no verification at the store.
[03:37]	schestowitz[TR]	"download our app"
[03:37]	DaemonFC	:)
[03:37]	schestowitz[TR]	"no, no, no... I want a PERSON"
[03:37]	DaemonFC	So this month my bill went down another $30.
[03:37]	DaemonFC	That's like $20-some on the bill plus taxes.
[03:37]	schestowitz[TR]	:D
[03:38]	schestowitz[TR]	iirc, some telecoms and carriers cut down 900% of staff
[03:38]	schestowitz[TR]	on paper at least
[03:38]	schestowitz[TR]	*90%
[03:38]	schestowitz[TR]	like BT
[03:38]	DaemonFC	I managed to cut the price of Mandy's cell phone addiction by over $350 a year.
[03:38]	schestowitz[TR]	they don't plan to offer services
[03:38]	schestowitz[TR]	or employ people
[03:38]	DaemonFC	That takes some of the sting out of how Walmart's jacking us around now.
[03:38]	schestowitz[TR]	nothing to do with "HEY HI"
[03:38]	schestowitz[TR]	just automation
[03:38]	schestowitz[TR]	and contracting outwards
[03:38]	schestowitz[TR]	to lower obliggations to staff
[03:38]	schestowitz[TR]	line cut?
[03:38]	schestowitz[TR]	contract some firm to fix it
[03:38]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], I canceled some Walmart orders.
[03:38]	schestowitz[TR]	then cut it off
[03:39]	schestowitz[TR]	like "gig economy" at macro scale
[03:39]	DaemonFC	When it asked why I said "Walmart is cutting hours."
[03:39]	DaemonFC	:)
[03:39]	schestowitz[TR]	:FD
[03:39]	schestowitz[TR]	well played
[03:39]	DaemonFC	In other words they cut his hours, I cut our spending.
[03:39]	schestowitz[TR]	not much left to spend
[03:39]	schestowitz[TR]	the industry forgets that poor workers don't buy things
[03:39]	schestowitz[TR]	which in turn harms sales
[03:39]	XRevan86	https://forgejo.org/2023-06-copyleft/
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[03:39]	schestowitz[TR]	makes more poor workers
[03:39]	schestowitz[TR]	it's a loop
[03:40]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Yeah, the first thing people are going to cut is how much money they're spending at Walmart.
[03:40]	schestowitz[TR]	gonna go cook now... it's 4am
[03:42]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], At least the President is taking prat falls off the stage.
[03:42]	DaemonFC	Comic relief.
[03:43]	DaemonFC	His approval rating crashed some more around the same time.
[03:43]	schestowitz[TR]	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=U5VfC33aUUQ
[03:43]	TR Bot	 Hillary Clinton Falls - Invidious
[03:43]	DaemonFC	People know he's not only losing his marbles but that he can barely even walk without falling over.
[03:43]	DaemonFC	And now Trump's back.
[03:43]	schestowitz[TR]	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Se6PrO_PrMA
[03:43]	TR Bot	 Video shows Hillary Clinton leaving 9/11 event early - Invidious
[03:44]	schestowitz[TR]	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TflXQ2L1Io0
[03:44]	TR Bot	 RAW VIDEO: Hillary Clinton helped into van while leaving 9/11 event (CNN video) - Invidious
[03:44]	schestowitz[TR]	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XET12WGEOqs
[03:44]	TR Bot	 Hillary Clinton Falls - Invidious
[03:44]	schestowitz[TR]	"VERY stable genius"
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[03:47]	mjg59_	schestowitz[TR]: When did I insinuate you were pro-rape?
[03:47]	mjg59_	schestowitz[TR]: Or is that just another thing you made up about me?
[03:47]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: "Biden 2024"
[03:47]	schestowitz[TR]	Sarcasm Biden 1942-2024
[03:49]	TR News	"A lot of my little hobby projects are just my own versions of things other people have made. I wonder why that is. Do I lack creativity?" gemini://gem.twunk.uk/log/2023-06-06-the-urge.gmi
[03:50]	TR News	Looking out or in? gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1441
[03:54]	TR News	Techrights will deal with high-level issues in the EU and UK this year. The corruption goes all the way up to the top. It needs exposing. Politicians aren't all bad; some help challenge the injustices. But it's hard to find them.
[03:55]	TR News	"I really do miss writing. For whatever reason I've been in a major dry spell for the last several months, and it's hard to understand. Self-doubt is likely contributing, but that's always been there, and it doesn't seem like it's any worse these days than at any other point." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1441
[03:56]	TR News	It's getting to the point where, like WWW in early 90s, it's getting too difficult to keep track of all that's happening in Geminispace.
[03:56]	TR News	Gemini's biggest risk is not shrinking but getting infiltrated by rogue actors, inc. malicious corporations
[03:58]	TR News	Coldplay is doing greenwashing about its current tour. But of course the carbon footprint of travelling spectators who fill up stadiums should count, not a little band. The 50% figure come out of thin air. Pun intended.
[03:59]	TR News	Some of today's "journalists" were taught how to write (e.g. English degrees) but not how to think
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[04:02]	DaemonFC	<mjg59_> schestowitz[TR]: Or is that just another thing you made up about me?
[04:03]	DaemonFC	Did you or did you not say if you don't go cruising at conferences you are "missing out"?
[04:03]	DaemonFC	Not an accusation, I just want to know.
[04:04]	mjg59_	DaemonFC: If I said that, you ought to be able to quote me having said that?
[04:04]	DaemonFC	I heard that you allegedly said this. It was merely a question.
[04:05]	mjg59_	I did not say that
[04:05]	mjg59_	Situation resolved?
[04:06]	DaemonFC	Yeah, that would be really sleazy, wouldn't it?
[04:06]	schestowitz[TR]	irc troll disguised as irckkkop
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[04:08]	mjg59_	DaemonFC: Who did you hear that I said that from?
[04:08]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: we don't plan to move
[04:08]	schestowitz[TR]	manchester is great, still
[04:08]	schestowitz[TR]	even with crime here and there
[04:08]	schestowitz[TR]	since the men arena bombing nothing really major
[04:09]	schestowitz[TR]	nor natural disasters
[04:09]	schestowitz[TR]	your new landlord will raise the rent
[04:09]	schestowitz[TR]	just a matter of when, not if
[04:09]	schestowitz[TR]	and he won't improve things
[04:10]	schestowitz[TR]	exhibitionists in the trash are not a factor in operational improvements
[04:10]	schestowitz[TR]	they're just a cost of "doin' bizniz"
[04:10]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], I'm going to put in applications for a different apartment here in a couple of months when we're closer to the end of our lease.
[04:10]	schestowitz[TR]	good idea
[04:11]	schestowitz[TR]	his psyche is like this
[04:11]	schestowitz[TR]	he worked hard for IBM
[04:11]	schestowitz[TR]	for decades
[04:11]	schestowitz[TR]	other companies too
[04:11]	schestowitz[TR]	saved up
[04:11]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe saved a million
[04:11]	schestowitz[TR]	probably took debt to buy your lot
[04:11]	schestowitz[TR]	he won't calll it debt
[04:11]	schestowitz[TR]	they have many eupphemisms
[04:11]	DaemonFC	He'll say he raised capital.
[04:11]	schestowitz[TR]	but he could afford a nice home in a nice place
[04:11]	DaemonFC	Or something.
[04:11]	schestowitz[TR]	then he saw a nice photo on a bright sunny day
[04:12]	schestowitz[TR]	with high room/apartment count
[04:12]	schestowitz[TR]	thought,
[04:12]	schestowitz[TR]	"wow, this is a bargain"
[04:12]	schestowitz[TR]	neither did he
[04:12]	schestowitz[TR]	1) assess the area
[04:12]	schestowitz[TR]	2)assess the people
[04:12]	schestowitz[TR]	he's in for a surprose
[04:12]	DaemonFC	Or the tenants.
[04:12]	schestowitz[TR]	yes, see (2)
[04:12]	schestowitz[TR]	he lives in a bubble
[04:12]	schestowitz[TR]	he came from india
[04:12]	schestowitz[TR]	nothing wrong with it
[04:12]	schestowitz[TR]	but usa is not india
[04:13]	schestowitz[TR]	people carry rifles and doing "riffa"
[04:13]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=%22riffa%22
[04:13]	TR Bot	 Urban Dictionary: "riffa"
[04:14]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], He has three other LLCs.
[04:14]	schestowitz[TR]	which reminds me
[04:14]	schestowitz[TR]	spamnil called himself black
[04:14]	DaemonFC	He wasn't lying when he said that they've been landlords for several years.
[04:14]	schestowitz[TR]	i bet you he never lived with blacks
[04:14]	DaemonFC	He has at least three other buildings.
[04:14]	schestowitz[TR]	he's not black
[04:14]	schestowitz[TR]	not ethnically
[04:14]	schestowitz[TR]	not in terms of culture
[04:15]	schestowitz[TR]	he's a spamming career climber
[04:15]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], We'll find out what happens with the rent I guess.
[04:15]	DaemonFC	If it doesn't go way up we might stay here.
[04:15]	schestowitz[TR]	and in denial about the coun try where he does the spamming after he left europe
[04:15]	schestowitz[TR]	like h gulahgboy did
[04:15]	schestowitz[TR]	chasing money
[04:15]	schestowitz[TR]	no appeal in the usa
[04:15]	DaemonFC	Mark told Mitzie next door that he had discussed potential rent with the new guy.
[04:15]	schestowitz[TR]	except pentagon money
[04:15]	schestowitz[TR]	winfall revenue
[04:15]	DaemonFC	And the new guy seems to think he can get about $1050 a month.
[04:15]	schestowitz[TR]	money falling from the tree
[04:16]	schestowitz[TR]	22,000,000,000 bucks for HOLOLONS
[04:16]	DaemonFC	That's more than we pay but it may not be worth moving and coming up with another deposit somewhere.
[04:16]	schestowitz[TR]	*HOLOLENS
[04:16]	schestowitz[TR]	whose whole staff got laid off
[04:16]	schestowitz[TR]	land of dream -> land of military-style bailout
[04:16]	schestowitz[TR]	sky is the limit, the ceiling, 60 trillion dollars soon
[04:16]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], The Republicans did get some cuts.
[04:17]	DaemonFC	If you notice, military spending is going up but not by what it usually does.
[04:17]	DaemonFC	By about half what it usually does.
[04:17]	schestowitz[TR]	$1050 a month is a lot
[04:17]	schestowitz[TR]	for what you get
[04:17]	schestowitz[TR]	in the state you are in
[04:17]	schestowitz[TR]	compared to uk
[04:17]	schestowitz[TR]	at least you did NOT go live close to walmart
[04:17]	schestowitz[TR]	my advice did not get into account being shafted by the waltons
[04:17]	schestowitz[TR]	the poor waltons
[04:18]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], We're actually closer to the store Mandy wants to go work at instead.
[04:18]	schestowitz[TR]	oh
[04:18]	schestowitz[TR]	but
[04:18]	DaemonFC	I told him that after some people quit they'll get their hours back most likely.
[04:18]	schestowitz[TR]	why would the colleagues not apply there too?
[04:18]	schestowitz[TR]	walton clear cuts heads
[04:18]	schestowitz[TR]	positions
[04:18]	schestowitz[TR]	so people will compete for fewer openings
[04:18]	schestowitz[TR]	in relations too
[04:18]	schestowitz[TR]	that won't be smooth sailing
[04:19]	schestowitz[TR]	*in relocations
[04:19]	DaemonFC	Yeah, they got rid of a bunch of people greeters apparently.
[04:19]	schestowitz[TR]	loom\k long term
[04:19]	schestowitz[TR]	walmart is shrinking
[04:19]	schestowitz[TR]	the clients become staff
[04:19]	schestowitz[TR]	"gig economy"
[04:19]	schestowitz[TR]	robots maybe
[04:19]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], They hired security guards.
[04:19]	DaemonFC	What a joke.
[04:19]	schestowitz[TR]	they usually don't end up saving money
[04:19]	schestowitz[TR]	getting dumb clients to be their slaves is better
[04:19]	DaemonFC	People with machine guns setting the store on fire and running out with the TVs.
[04:19]	DaemonFC	While Walmart takes it out on Mandy and their other workers.
[04:19]	schestowitz[TR]	yeah
[04:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[04:20]	schestowitz[TR]	wait, checking prices
[04:20]	schestowitz[TR]	in ILL
[04:20]	schestowitz[TR]	lol, saw this in passing https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/04/17/illinois-state-government-targets-children-with-iphone-and-android-malware-to-report-on-friends-family-and-neighbors/
[04:20]	TR Bot	 Illinois State Government Targets Children With iPhone and Android Malware to Report on Friends, Family, and Neighbors | BaronHK's Rants
[04:20]	schestowitz[TR]	browser history
[04:20]	schestowitz[TR]	comparing rent in macneyster and your city
[04:20]	schestowitz[TR]	*manchester
[04:20]	DaemonFC	Department of Human Services.......
[04:21]	DaemonFC	It's a nice euphemism isn't it?
[04:21]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.redfin.com/IL/Waukegan/417-Franklin-St-60085/home/17699244
[04:21]	TR Bot	Franklin St, Waukegan, IL 60085 | MLS# 11678921 | Redfin
[04:21]	schestowitz[TR]	$2,300,000
[04:21]	schestowitz[TR]	Sold Price
[04:21]	schestowitz[TR]	25
[04:21]	schestowitz[TR]	Beds
[04:21]	schestowitz[TR]	26
[04:21]	schestowitz[TR]	Baths
[04:21]	schestowitz[TR]	more baths than beds
[04:21]	schestowitz[TR]	how does that work?
[04:21]	DaemonFC	"Do you want STATE OF ILL to share your tax return with DHS to see if you qualify for "programs"?
[04:21]	schestowitz[TR]	some people have two baths for one person/couple?
[04:21]	DaemonFC	YOu know why else had programs? The Communists.
[04:21]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz[TR]> some people have two baths for one person/couple?
[04:21]	DaemonFC	One room is a utility room.
[04:22]	DaemonFC	The new landlord just junked everything in there.
[04:22]	schestowitz[TR]	100 dollars per bed is awful value
[04:22]	DaemonFC	I believe he plans to turn it into another apartment.
[04:22]	schestowitz[TR]	100k
[04:22]	schestowitz[TR]	60k might make sense
[04:22]	DaemonFC	It wouldn't be impossible to turn it back into an apartment.
[04:22]	DaemonFC	Then he can rent 26 units instead of 25.
[04:22]	DaemonFC	I don't know why Mark didn't.
[04:22]	schestowitz[TR]	this si 1970s stuff
[04:22]	schestowitz[TR]	rotting wood
[04:22]	schestowitz[TR]	stuick windows
[04:22]	schestowitz[TR]	how old are the frames?
[04:22]	schestowitz[TR]	1990s?
[04:23]	DaemonFC	Nope.
[04:23]	DaemonFC	Original.
[04:23]	schestowitz[TR]	hahahaha
[04:23]	schestowitz[TR]	]wtf
[04:23]	DaemonFC	He got fucked bad.
[04:23]	DaemonFC	$2.3 million dollars
[04:23]	schestowitz[TR]	software ceo does not do quality control
[04:23]	schestowitz[TR]	for something 800k 15 years ago
[04:23]	schestowitz[TR]	mark found a tool
[04:23]	schestowitz[TR]	and mark invested nothing
[04:23]	schestowitz[TR]	old windows
[04:23]	schestowitz[TR]	rotting material
[04:24]	DaemonFC	Yeah.,
[04:24]	schestowitz[TR]	old A/Cs
[04:24]	schestowitz[TR]	barely working
[04:24]	DaemonFC	Just let everything continue breaking.
[04:24]	DaemonFC	Rotting.
[04:24]	schestowitz[TR]	mark: come, come.. to the bin room
[04:24]	DaemonFC	Sold it for triple.
[04:24]	schestowitz[TR]	yeah, weird
[04:24]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.redfin.com/IL/Waukegan/12761-W-Harrison-Ave-60085/home/17702309
[04:24]	TR Bot	W Harrison Ave, Waukegan, IL 60085 | MLS# 11800714 | Redfin
[04:24]	schestowitz[TR]	no inside shots
[04:25]	schestowitz[TR]	so it's a dump
[04:25]	schestowitz[TR]	100k
[04:25]	schestowitz[TR]	the fences look like some rap video
[04:25]	schestowitz[TR]	150k  https://www.redfin.com/IL/Waukegan/12761-W-Harrison-Ave-60085/home/17702309
[04:25]	schestowitz[TR]	you like wood in ILL
[04:25]	schestowitz[TR]	homes that rot
[04:26]	schestowitz[TR]	no bricks
[04:26]	schestowitz[TR]	the photos look OK
[04:26]	schestowitz[TR]	indoors
[04:26]	schestowitz[TR]	https://ssl.cdn-redfin.com/photo/68/bigphoto/222/11799222_13_0.jpg
[04:26]	schestowitz[TR]	2 bedrooms
[04:26]	schestowitz[TR]	but what about the area?
[04:27]	schestowitz[TR]	could be a "NO GO!! DO NOT COME HERE!!"
[04:27]	schestowitz[TR]	but you see a nice home on a sunny day
[04:27]	schestowitz[TR]	4 bedrooms, 235k  https://www.redfin.com/IL/Waukegan/2520-Linden-Ave-60087/home/17706974
[04:27]	TR Bot	Linden Ave, Waukegan, IL 60087 | MLS# 11799026 | Redfin
[04:27]	DaemonFC	https://www.marcusmillichap.com/news-events/press/2023/05/5-8-26-unit-multifamily-property-waukegan-illinois
[04:27]	TR Bot	 Marcus & Millichap Arranges the Sale of a 26-Unit Waukegan Multifamily Property
[04:27]	schestowitz[TR]	and your landlord pays 100k per bed
[04:27]	schestowitz[TR]	what a fool
[04:28]	DaemonFC	"According to the team, the property had been meticulously well kept by the seller who had owned the property for thirty years."
[04:28]	schestowitz[TR]	i don't know the addresses
[04:28]	DaemonFC	Meticulous?
[04:28]	schestowitz[TR]	could be worse and most dangerous places
[04:28]	DaemonFC	Broken air conditioners and rotting window frames is meticulous?
[04:28]	schestowitz[TR]	"Multifamily Property"
[04:28]	schestowitz[TR]	family?
[04:28]	schestowitz[TR]	really?
[04:28]	DaemonFC	"the building has seen recent capital improvements, including a newer roof."
[04:28]	DaemonFC	LOL
[04:28]	schestowitz[TR]	like people with boom boxer?
[04:29]	DaemonFC	Newer roof 20 years ago?
[04:29]	schestowitz[TR]	playing full volumes?
[04:29]	schestowitz[TR]	lullabies at full volume?
[04:29]	DaemonFC	There's shingles falling off.
[04:29]	schestowitz[TR]	for the cut lil baby"
[04:29]	schestowitz[TR]	*cute
[04:29]	DaemonFC	"off-street parking"
[04:29]	DaemonFC	Complete with potholes and overflowing garbage with public masturbator and abandoned cars with no places.
[04:29]	schestowitz[TR]	"newer roof"
[04:30]	schestowitz[TR]	all relative
[04:30]	schestowitz[TR]	newer than WHAT?
[04:30]	DaemonFC	"and an on-site laundry facility"
[04:30]	schestowitz[TR]	1990s Bill Clinton?>
[04:30]	DaemonFC	Where only one washing machine works.
[04:30]	schestowitz[TR]	lol!
[04:30]	schestowitz[TR]	for 26 apartments
[04:30]	schestowitz[TR]	or   25
[04:30]	DaemonFC	And by works I means sounds like someone is washing a cinder block and randomly bleaches clothing.
[04:30]	tessier	Google streetview to check out a neighborhood around a property you are interested in
[04:30]		techrights-ipfs-bot techrights-news techrights[sec]_ techrightsalpine4 TechrightsBot-tr tessier 
[04:30]	schestowitz[TR]	tessier: yes, but that too does not tell the full story
[04:31]	schestowitz[TR]	better tlak to someone who lives nearby
[04:31]	schestowitz[TR]	or go walk around yourself
[04:31]	schestowitz[TR]	before we bought this home I used to cycle here at random
[04:31]	tessier	Sure, but it's good if you can't go to the area yet. 
[04:31]	schestowitz[TR]	near the home, around the home
[04:31]	schestowitz[TR]	observing people
[04:31]	tessier	schestowitz[TR]: Aren't you in the  UK?
[04:31]	schestowitz[TR]	seeing the social dynamics
[04:31]	schestowitz[TR]	yes, in the UK
[04:31]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Nobody notices at Walmart if you clock in a few minutes early each day.
[04:31]	schestowitz[TR]	i did my homework
[04:32]	tessier	But you bought that home?
[04:32]	DaemonFC	So if you're smart and don't say anything about it you can get another half hour in that way.
[04:32]		techrights-ipfs-bot techrights-news techrights[sec]_ techrightsalpine4 TechrightsBot-tr tessier 
[04:32]	schestowitz[TR]	tessier: cheaply too
[04:32]	schestowitz[TR]	the lady who sold wanted to move to cyprus asap
[04:32]	DaemonFC	Don't do it and then gloat about it is what I'm saying.
[04:32]	DaemonFC	Then you can get a couple hours back over the course of the month.
[04:32]	schestowitz[TR]	she came back a year later
[04:32]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe realised it wasn't what she had expected
[04:33]	schestowitz[TR]	people tend to judge places as tourists
[04:33]	schestowitz[TR]	there's no "fly back" date
[04:33]	DaemonFC	If everyone starts doing it and then saying "He's doing it!" the jig is up.
[04:33]	schestowitz[TR]	yeah
[04:33]	schestowitz[TR]	i know that trick
[04:33]	tessier	I'm confused. You bought a home in Illinois? Then moved to the  UK?
[04:33]	schestowitz[TR]	in the uni they asked us to swipe
[04:33]	schestowitz[TR]	it just wasted time
[04:34]	schestowitz[TR]	they could just ha<ve more trust
[04:34]	schestowitz[TR]	and skip that silly chore
[04:34]	schestowitz[TR]	and more work will get done
[04:34]	schestowitz[TR]	same with commute
[04:34]	schestowitz[TR]	let people work from home
[04:34]	schestowitz[TR]	reduce emissions, too
[04:34]		techrights-ipfs-bot techrights-news techrights[sec]_ techrightsalpine4 TechrightsBot-tr tessier 
[04:34]	schestowitz[TR]	tessier: no, DaemonFC  is in ILL
[04:34]	schestowitz[TR]	and his landlord sold the place months ago
[04:34]	DaemonFC	STATE OF ILL
[04:34]	schestowitz[TR]	in secret
[04:34]	tessier	schestowitz[TR]: But you used to bike around that neighbodhood?
[04:35]	schestowitz[TR]	no, here in manchester
[04:35]	schestowitz[TR]	i said, the person who bought it
[04:35]	tessier	oh. Ok.
[04:35]	schestowitz[TR]	for 2.4m
[04:35]	schestowitz[TR]	was 0.8 in 2008
[04:35]	schestowitz[TR]	he didn't do his basic homework
[04:35]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], W'll probably just wait until there's not enough time left on the lease to be worth suing over and scram.
[04:35]	DaemonFC	I don't know.
[04:35]	DaemonFC	I have a bad feeling about staying.
[04:35]	schestowitz[TR]	just saw perfect sunny day and "professional" photography from estate salespeople
[04:35]	schestowitz[TR]	knew nothing about what he was buying
[04:36]	schestowitz[TR]	knocking down the price by 100k
[04:36]	schestowitz[TR]	still overpaid
[04:36]	schestowitz[TR]	not tenants are fleeing
[04:36]	schestowitz[TR]	*now
[04:36]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Now he'll be digging into water damage, rotten window frames, stuck windows, broken air conditioners.
[04:36]	DaemonFC	Leaking "newer" roof. Probably.
[04:36]	schestowitz[TR]	he maybe did ok in ICBM
[04:36]	schestowitz[TR]	but he knows little outside that domain
[04:36]	DaemonFC	People leaving human feces near the garbage.
[04:36]	schestowitz[TR]	and fancies himself estate tycoon
[04:36]	schestowitz[TR]	I know such a person
[04:36]	schestowitz[TR]	a relative
[04:37]	schestowitz[TR]	invested all his money buying "properties"
[04:37]	schestowitz[TR]	not remembering these need to be checked and maintained
[04:37]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: he can fix all these
[04:37]	schestowitz[TR]	but...
[04:38]	schestowitz[TR]	without any revenue (tennants)
[04:38]	schestowitz[TR]	will it pay for itself?
[04:38]	schestowitz[TR]	worth it?
[04:38]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe he wants to be seen as "airplane tycoon"
[04:38]	schestowitz[TR]	"yeah, yeah... i own 25 homes"
[04:38]	schestowitz[TR]	(with loan from the bank)
[04:39]	schestowitz[TR]	"sometimes I even pay someone to mow the loan"
[04:39]	schestowitz[TR]	(the fines scare me)
[04:39]	schestowitz[TR]	*lawn
[04:39]	DaemonFC	Mow the loan.
[04:39]	DaemonFC	LOL
[04:40]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: marisol
[04:40]	schestowitz[TR]	me gots me some money
[04:40]	DaemonFC	Time to go mow the loan!
[04:40]	schestowitz[TR]	bank gimme some money
[04:40]	schestowitz[TR]	show me the monies
[04:40]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.redfin.com/IL/Libertyville/5540-Hilltop-Ln-60048/home/17711464
[04:40]	TR Bot	Hilltop Ln, Libertyville, IL 60048 | MLS# 11782941 | Redfin
[04:40]	DaemonFC	Bank gives "Mark" credit cards.
[04:40]	schestowitz[TR]	here, look ma!
[04:40]	DaemonFC	MOAR shoes!
[04:40]	schestowitz[TR]	me millionaire
[04:40]	DaemonFC	:)
[04:40]	schestowitz[TR]	million dolla' home!
[04:40]	DaemonFC	Not Mark the landlord.
[04:40]	schestowitz[TR]	doll house
[04:40]	DaemonFC	Mark, MARISOL's (abused) husband.
[04:40]	schestowitz[TR]	5 beds for 4 people
[04:40]	schestowitz[TR]	4 baths
[04:41]	schestowitz[TR]	one for each barbie dool
[04:41]	schestowitz[TR]	*doll
[04:41]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], MARISOL tried sending Mandy a bill.
[04:41]	schestowitz[TR]	now, mark, let's buy two more cars
[04:41]	DaemonFC	After forcing him to scrub their home clean.
[04:41]	schestowitz[TR]	to make use of the space
[04:41]	schestowitz[TR]	in front of the home
[04:41]	schestowitz[TR]	we need to show we can afford 3 cars
[04:41]	DaemonFC	For the "rent" on the spare bedroom.
[04:41]	schestowitz[TR]	even if only 1 or 2 are licensed to drive
[04:41]	schestowitz[TR]	btw, I can buy any car in an instance
[04:41]	schestowitz[TR]	cash, upfront
[04:41]	DaemonFC	She told him to give all his Walmart money to her and we could just live on my income.
[04:41]	schestowitz[TR]	but why would I?
[04:41]	DaemonFC	I told her to go fuck herself.
[04:42]	schestowitz[TR]	not dumb or insecure enough
[04:42]	schestowitz[TR]	rianne  is on holiday
[04:42]	schestowitz[TR]	another 3 weeks
[04:42]	schestowitz[TR]	5 total
[04:42]	schestowitz[TR]	she says,
[04:42]	schestowitz[TR]	big home, more troublle
[04:42]	schestowitz[TR]	more work
[04:42]	schestowitz[TR]	more expenses
[04:43]	schestowitz[TR]	homes too big for who lives there
[04:43]	schestowitz[TR]	plus, gardens
[04:43]	DaemonFC	Walmart cuts Mandy's hours.
[04:43]	DaemonFC	Gives people free 1 day shipping on a pack of dish sponges.
[04:43]	DaemonFC	:P
[04:43]	schestowitz[TR]	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gUhRKVIjJtw
[04:43]	TR Bot	 The Notorious B.I.G. - Mo Money Mo Problems (Official Music Video) [4K] - Invidious
[04:43]	schestowitz[TR]	mandy is ok
[04:43]	schestowitz[TR]	no fear
[04:43]	schestowitz[TR]	no debt
[04:43]	DaemonFC	They do their business like Amazon and lose money like Amazon.
[04:43]	schestowitz[TR]	no eviction
[04:44]	schestowitz[TR]	no phonecalls from bank
[04:44]	schestowitz[TR]	to some colleagues it is scary
[04:44]	schestowitz[TR]	they would not be hanging off a staircase as it would be cruel to their kids
[04:44]	schestowitz[TR]	but i'm sure some have family and many plastics they callm "credit cards"
[04:45]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: 1) most business lose money
[04:45]	schestowitz[TR]	2) most businesses fail and fold fast
[04:45]	schestowitz[TR]	3) they justify it by saying, "everybody is doing it"
[04:45]	schestowitz[TR]	(same when they break the law, e.g. tax cheats)
[04:46]	schestowitz[TR]	4) they underpay staff or (and?)( overwork them
[04:46]	schestowitz[TR]	(common method is,)
[04:46]	schestowitz[TR]	("wait, we'll do better, it'll pay off, we'll promote you or pay more in the future")
[04:46]	schestowitz[TR]	5) a lot of the business activity is now business
[04:47]	schestowitz[TR]	(lending, debt, liabilities, obligations)
[04:47]	schestowitz[TR]	(example: Sirius)
[04:47]	schestowitz[TR]	I only regret my colleagues and I did not fully investigate the pension thing 12 years ago
[04:47]	schestowitz[TR]	we'd leave and sue
[04:48]	schestowitz[TR]	thanks to gulagboy we finally did it
[04:48]	schestowitz[TR]	in 2023
[04:48]	schestowitz[TR]	gulagboy the doxing transphobes
[04:48]	schestowitz[TR]	fucking them from both direction
[04:48]	schestowitz[TR]	direction one: PR damage
[04:48]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], He's going to have a lot of nasty surprises in this unit.
[04:48]	schestowitz[TR]	the stigma reinforced
[04:48]	DaemonFC	Damage from before we moved in.
[04:48]	DaemonFC	Lots of it.
[04:48]	DaemonFC	Mark never bothered to fix it.
[04:48]	schestowitz[TR]	(them as bullies)
[04:49]	schestowitz[TR]	direction two: well, don't want to even ask about how many holes etc.
[04:49]	schestowitz[TR]	anyway, a class action lawsuit is still in the cards
[04:49]	schestowitz[TR]	but I cannot say more
[04:49]	schestowitz[TR]	as it can help them
[04:49]	schestowitz[TR]	the target might be nor SIrius
[04:49]	schestowitz[TR]	byt accountant
[04:49]	schestowitz[TR]	IFA
[04:49]	schestowitz[TR]	pension fund
[04:50]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Figure he'll need several hundred thousand more to repair this entire place.
[04:50]	schestowitz[TR]	or regulator/ombus
[04:50]	schestowitz[TR]	we cannot sue hmrc/police obv.
[04:50]	schestowitz[TR]	this can drag on for years, not months
[04:50]	schestowitz[TR]	like EPO scandals
[04:50]	schestowitz[TR]	this goes up rather high
[04:51]	schestowitz[TR]	me to MP yesterday (partial)
[04:51]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], I'm delaying purchases of things I "want" now. Until I see if Mandy gets his hours back and maybe for a while after that.
[04:51]	schestowitz[TR]	1. UK government departments outsourced to (contracted) Sirius
[04:51]	schestowitz[TR]	2. Sirius quietly defrauded its staff (which worked on the above computer systems) within months of them joining
[04:51]	schestowitz[TR]	3. The workers found out they had been defrauded since 2011 (it took months to verify as firms were stonewalling and obstructing inquiries). It took 12 years to uncover.
[04:51]	schestowitz[TR]	4. The workers contacted Action Fraud, HMRC, the IFA, the accountant of Sirius, and the pension firms
[04:51]	schestowitz[TR]	5. To date, only the pension firms responded, but only after a lot of prodding -- months of escalating to management there. Some managers initially gave contradictory stories; yes, managers at Standard Life lied to us.
[04:51]	DaemonFC	They've hurt my confidence in our budget and will lose more in sales than it was worth.
[04:51]	schestowitz[TR]	there's lots more to come
[04:51]	DaemonFC	Even if his hours come back then I'm still going to wait.
[04:51]	schestowitz[TR]	<ANON> I'm in two minds
[04:51]	schestowitz[TR]	<ANON> On one hand, experience and CV work
[04:51]	schestowitz[TR]	<ANON> On another hand, very awful company
[04:51]	schestowitz[TR]	<ANON> Though if you want to find out what they are saying to newcomers - now is a good chance.
[04:51]	schestowitz[TR]	<schestowitz[TR]> did you see both wiki pages?
[04:51]	schestowitz[TR]	<ANON> Both Wiki pages? I saw the index page and read majority of the articles.
[04:51]	schestowitz[TR]	<schestowitz[TR]> http://techrights.org/wiki/Crimes_of_Sirius_Open_Source
[04:51]	schestowitz[TR]	<ANON> Reading
[04:51]	schestowitz[TR]	<ANON> I love this one:
[04:51]	schestowitz[TR]	<ANON> They try to claim not to know us,
[04:52]	TR Bot	 Crimes of Sirius Open Source - Techrights
[04:52]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: 1050 for 100k per apartment
[04:52]	schestowitz[TR]	that's 10%
[04:53]	schestowitz[TR]	should be 6-7%
[04:53]	schestowitz[TR]	not sure after rate hikes
[04:53]	schestowitz[TR]	banks around 4%
[04:53]	schestowitz[TR]	seems like major ripoff tbh
[04:53]	schestowitz[TR]	you're good tenant, take 800 a month
[04:53]	schestowitz[TR]	mo calm, no trouble
[04:54]	schestowitz[TR]	No' Problems
[04:54]	schestowitz[TR]	"east money"
[04:54]	schestowitz[TR]	operational efficiecy & improvements
[04:54]	schestowitz[TR]	cheque in the mail
[04:54]	schestowitz[TR]	bab exercisew
[04:55]	schestowitz[TR]	sorry, typos, standing (exercising)
[04:56]	DaemonFC	I think Mitzie is still doing okay over there.
[04:57]	DaemonFC	I don't know if she's gotten a new lease but I know hers with Mark was up two months ago.
[04:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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[05:00]	schestowitz[TR]	hmm
[05:01]	schestowitz[TR]	not flying saucers (plates) mark
[05:01]	schestowitz[TR]	ips acting up today
[05:01]	schestowitz[TR]	*ipfs
[05:01]	schestowitz[TR]	https://ipfs.io/ipfs/Qmeen883ygmQMHbp93hmHemdGxVyMFxA4S53EVjPiTWthi
[05:01]	DaemonFC	Whatever this guy is planning, he hasn't gotten around to her yet.
[05:01]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe the server's IP will be luckier
[05:01]	schestowitz[TR]	for me it times out
[05:01]	schestowitz[TR]	since 50 mins ago
[05:02]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: he probably has o clue what he is doing
[05:02]	schestowitz[TR]	vanity project
[05:02]	schestowitz[TR]	he overpaid
[05:02]	DaemonFC	That's the thing.
[05:02]	schestowitz[TR]	and money borrowed for sure
[05:02]	DaemonFC	He has at least three other LLCs.
[05:02]	schestowitz[TR]	given his work history, he had no cash
[05:02]	DaemonFC	He's been a landlord for about 4-5 years.
[05:02]	DaemonFC	The second LLC was from 2018.
[05:03]	schestowitz[TR]	even if he could stash aside 100k a year
[05:03]	DaemonFC	He has his son in here helping him.
[05:03]	schestowitz[TR]	after tax and spendings
[05:03]	TR Bot	( status 504 @ https://ipfs.io/ipfs/Qmeen883ygmQMHbp93hmHemdGxVyMFxA4S53EVjPiTWthi )
[05:03]	DaemonFC	Toss shit out Mark didn't even bother to clean up.
[05:03]	schestowitz[TR]	so many he wants to give his son a job
[05:03]	DaemonFC	Had to have an entire dumpster full from that utility room hauled off the other day.
[05:03]	schestowitz[TR]	"superintendant"
[05:03]	schestowitz[TR]	"superintendent"
[05:03]	DaemonFC	His son can't be more than about 16, maybe.
[05:03]	schestowitz[TR]	great job title
[05:03]	schestowitz[TR]	not a great job
[05:04]	schestowitz[TR]	super-hero
[05:04]	schestowitz[TR]	taking out the bin
[05:04]	schestowitz[TR]	with superpowers
[05:04]	DaemonFC	That utility room was full of trash.
[05:04]	schestowitz[TR]	negotiate with drug addicts when to vacate or pay overdue rent 3 months late
[05:04]	DaemonFC	Mark didn't even bother to take the trash out of the utility room.
[05:04]	DaemonFC	And he still got $2.3 million.
[05:04]	schestowitz[TR]	no
[05:05]	schestowitz[TR]	he hasn't got it
[05:05]	schestowitz[TR]	he paid the debtors
[05:05]	schestowitz[TR]	he was forced into it
[05:05]	schestowitz[TR]	his hand was forced
[05:05]	schestowitz[TR]	and he set the price
[05:05]	DaemonFC	He told Mitzie he was in a lot of debt.
[05:05]	schestowitz[TR]	rianne has a relative like this
[05:05]	DaemonFC	So they got probably the lion's share of it.
[05:05]	schestowitz[TR]	the bank forces you, plus sets the price
[05:05]	schestowitz[TR]	to make sure they can recover "lost assers'
[05:05]	schestowitz[TR]	*assets
[05:06]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: maybe he is still in debt
[05:06]	schestowitz[TR]	and needs to offload more things
[05:06]	schestowitz[TR]	you never know
[05:06]	DaemonFC	You mean they got the entire $2.3 million?
[05:06]	schestowitz[TR]	our neighbour sold his home
[05:06]	DaemonFC	That's a lot of debt.
[05:06]	schestowitz[TR]	he had to 
[05:06]	schestowitz[TR]	had a brewery
[05:06]	schestowitz[TR]	and covid-19 came
[05:06]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: mayybe he was minus 3.0
[05:06]	schestowitz[TR]	you never know
[05:06]	schestowitz[TR]	and might be in minus even after selling his own home
[05:07]	schestowitz[TR]	and then have to work till 770
[05:07]	schestowitz[TR]	70
[05:07]	schestowitz[TR]	to keep his car
[05:07]	DaemonFC	770
[05:07]	DaemonFC	LOL
[05:07]	schestowitz[TR]	people stretch it
[05:07]	schestowitz[TR]	they count assets and liabilities
[05:07]	schestowitz[TR]	and balance it around 0
[05:07]	schestowitz[TR]	to get more "credit"
[05:07]	schestowitz[TR]	very risky game
[05:07]	schestowitz[TR]	"i can work another x years at y per year"
[05:08]	schestowitz[TR]	"lend me more, i can cover it"
[05:08]	DaemonFC	I might go to Taco Hell again tomorrow.
[05:08]	DaemonFC	Gots me a coupin.... :P
[05:08]	DaemonFC	(Ron White)
[05:08]	schestowitz[TR]	cheaper to cook
[05:08]	schestowitz[TR]	we got buckwheat at 20 cents a KG
[05:08]	schestowitz[TR]	even less
[05:08]	DaemonFC	Buckwheat is what John Creighton kept calling Rygel on Farscape.
[05:09]	schestowitz[TR]	it's not wheat
[05:09]	schestowitz[TR]	it's a really bad Engliugh name for the crop
[05:09]	schestowitz[TR]	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MUgf2c1-Cuo
[05:09]	TR Bot	 The More You Grow: Buckwheat - Invidious
[05:09]	schestowitz[TR]	*English
[05:09]	schestowitz[TR]	each crop or animal has many namess
[05:09]	schestowitz[TR]	depending on the language
[05:09]	schestowitz[TR]	no point memorising those
[05:10]	schestowitz[TR]	same for planet and star names
[05:10]	schestowitz[TR]	a bunch of dicks "choose" names
[05:10]	DaemonFC	Watching Enterprise.
[05:10]	schestowitz[TR]	if they have access to some big telescope agency
[05:10]	DaemonFC	"Dead Stop"
[05:10]	DaemonFC	That was a good episode.
[05:10]	schestowitz[TR]	and "discover" those
[05:10]	mjg59_	04:49 < schestowitz[TR]> direction two: well, don't want to even ask about how many holes etc.
[05:10]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], One of the creepy Star Trek episodes.
[05:10]	schestowitz[TR]	there are more planets we can observe then people ever alive, past and present, on Eartth
[05:10]	mjg59_	schestowitz[TR]: What, exactly, does that mean?
[05:11]	schestowitz[TR]	those planets don't give a shit what one humsn called them 100 years ago
[05:11]	DaemonFC	Matt GULAG and a lot of holes.
[05:11]	schestowitz[TR]	we cannot even reach those planets
[05:11]	schestowitz[TR]	we're too dumb to travel that far
[05:11]	schestowitz[TR]	"I have a star called after me" =
[05:12]	schestowitz[TR]	I got a job through dad's connection to work on this big government telescope and I suggested calling this dot after me
[05:12]	schestowitz[TR]	in some government book nobody even reads outside the agency
[05:12]	schestowitz[TR]	and no ordinary person can see even with an expensive home  telescope
[05:12]	DaemonFC	There probably are other complex forms of life.
[05:12]	DaemonFC	Not like we'll ever know.
[05:13]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: gulagboyu has one very large hole
[05:13]	schestowitz[TR]	his mouth
[05:13]	DaemonFC	We don't even know about all the lifeforms on our own planet.
[05:13]	schestowitz[TR]	this transphobe keeps brigading innocent people
[05:13]	DaemonFC	We find more even as we cause a mass extinction.
[05:13]	schestowitz[TR]	to distract from how he harms society for profit
[05:13]	schestowitz[TR]	anyway, back to tyelescopes
[05:13]	mjg59_	schestowitz[TR]: I'm curious why you fail to understand why hypothesising about someone's genital arrangements is anything other than transphobic
[05:13]	schestowitz[TR]	and to plants
[05:13]	schestowitz[TR]	buckwheat is better than bread
[05:13]	schestowitz[TR]	a lot of food is "processed"
[05:13]	DaemonFC	mjg59_, Genitals are fun.
[05:13]	schestowitz[TR]	like fake chicken products
[05:13]	DaemonFC	Cutting them off couldn't possibly be fun.
[05:13]	schestowitz[TR]	they call it "chicken fasts"
[05:14]	DaemonFC	:)
[05:14]	schestowitz[TR]	*fats
[05:14]	schestowitz[TR]	it means stuff like skin
[05:14]	schestowitz[TR]	they blend it together
[05:14]	schestowitz[TR]	and call it chicken nuggets or whatever
[05:14]	schestowitz[TR]	overt time we have
[05:14]	schestowitz[TR]	1) shrinkflation
[05:15]	schestowitz[TR]	2) greedflation (related): higher price for (1)
[05:15]	schestowitz[TR]	3) lower quality ingredients
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[05:15]	schestowitz[TR]	so your chicken nuggets could be , say
[05:15]	schestowitz[TR]	20% potato starch
[05:15]	schestowitz[TR]	30% "chicken"
[05:15]	schestowitz[TR]	30% "chicken fats"
[05:15]	schestowitz[TR]	and now
[05:15]	schestowitz[TR]	40% starch 
[05:16]	DaemonFC	Yeah, I don't think they've changed chicken mcnuggets much since I was a kid.
[05:16]	schestowitz[TR]	10% chicken
[05:16]	schestowitz[TR]	10& more water
[05:16]	schestowitz[TR]	for volume
[05:16]	DaemonFC	Their menu has mostly improved, schestowitz[TR] 
[05:16]	schestowitz[TR]	and 30% "chicken fats"
[05:16]	schestowitz[TR]	which is the stuff you do NOT want to even ask about
[05:16]	DaemonFC	In the late 70s, McDonalds used dehydrated onions.
[05:16]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe finely-crushed chicken feet
[05:17]	DaemonFC	They just had them in a big shaker and the burger was supposed to rehydrate them.
[05:17]	schestowitz[TR]	"mom, i think there's a little bone inside my nuggers"
[05:17]	schestowitz[TR]	mom: "just swallow it,, son"
[05:17]	schestowitz[TR]	don't trust processed food much
[05:17]	schestowitz[TR]	or at least read the infredients
[05:17]	schestowitz[TR]	they keep changing names
[05:17]	schestowitz[TR]	to confuse people
[05:17]	schestowitz[TR]	palm oil has like 20 different names now
[05:18]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Red Baron frozen pizzas have gotten fucking gross.
[05:18]	schestowitz[TR]	not always with the word "palm" in there
[05:18]	DaemonFC	Jack's are still about like they were 20 years ago just a lot smaller.
[05:18]	schestowitz[TR]	to confuse consumers [sic]
[05:18]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: they lower the price
[05:18]	schestowitz[TR]	try to MAINTAIN the TASTE
[05:18]	schestowitz[TR]	not the same product though
[05:18]	schestowitz[TR]	and could be very unhealthy
[05:18]	schestowitz[TR]	more condiments that are chemical
[05:18]	schestowitz[TR]	and MSG
[05:19]	mjg59_	schestowitz[TR]: I'm curious why you fail to understand why hypothesising about someone's genital arrangements is anything other than transphobic
[05:19]	schestowitz[TR]	the bread too got worse
[05:19]	schestowitz[TR]	the hard part is,
[05:19]	schestowitz[TR]	get a hold of old paper or plastic packaging
[05:19]	schestowitz[TR]	to compare like with like
[05:19]	schestowitz[TR]	the ingredients
[05:19]	schestowitz[TR]	in pizza shops, DaemonFC , it's harder
[05:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[05:20]	schestowitz[TR]	they are under no obligation to disclosure recipe, ingredients etc.
[05:20]	schestowitz[TR]	"may include spit of disgruntled underpaid worker"
[05:20]	schestowitz[TR]	"who might deliver pizza to pretentious sociopath"
[05:21]	schestowitz[TR]	at 6pm after working 9-5pm in the kitchen
[05:21]	schestowitz[TR]	"gig economy"
[05:21]	schestowitz[TR]	you know?
[05:21]	schestowitz[TR]	only the lazy don't work
[05:21]	schestowitz[TR]	get that second job after 9 to 5
[05:21]	schestowitz[TR]	or be a "bum"
[05:21]	schestowitz[TR]	biden is raising the ceiling for you.. and for Lockheed Martin
[05:22]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], I'm going to pull the MAF sensor on the car tomorrow.
[05:22]	DaemonFC	Spray it down with cleaner.
[05:23]	DaemonFC	Easy job.
[05:23]	DaemonFC	Watched dad do it once.
[05:23]	TR News	"Here is a short guide explaining how to install OpenBSD in Qubes OS, as an HVM VM (fully virtualized, not integrated)." gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/openbsd-in-qubes-os.gmi
[05:23]	schestowitz[TR]	mjg59_: quit trolling our irc network
[05:23]	DaemonFC	Mayne wait until Thursday.
[05:23]	schestowitz[TR]	here, my pretentious irish straight transhpbic homeboy
[05:23]	schestowitz[TR]	get some culture "Here is a short guide explaining how to install OpenBSD in Qubes OS, as an HVM VM (fully virtualized, not integrated)." gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/openbsd-in-qubes-os.gmi
[05:23]		*schestowitz[TR] listens to https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cTcTIBOgM9E&listen=false
[05:23]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Gorton's fish is still good.
[05:23]	TR Bot	 The Notorious B.I.G. - Greatest Hits (Full Album) | Biggie Greatest Hits Playlist - Invidious
[05:23]	mjg59_	schestowitz[TR]: I'm curious why you fail to understand why hypothesising about someone's genital arrangements is anything other than transphobic
[05:24]	DaemonFC	Did I ever tell you I ate nothing but Gorton's fish with lemon and tartar sauce and baked potatoes with sour cream and butter for six months one time?
[05:24]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: cooking saves lots of money
[05:24]	DaemonFC	I was about 4.
[05:24]	schestowitz[TR]	we have about 50 kg of buckwheat
[05:24]	DaemonFC	And that's all I wanted for 6 months so mom made it for dinner for me every night.
[05:24]	schestowitz[TR]	when cooked with water it's like 150kg of decent food
[05:25]	schestowitz[TR]	can mix it with many things
[05:25]	schestowitz[TR]	annd it's natural
[05:25]	schestowitz[TR]	all of it is organic
[05:25]	schestowitz[TR]	original price is like 30 times more
[05:25]	schestowitz[TR]	we got it very cheap
[05:25]	DaemonFC	mjg59_, Hypothesizing about someone's genitals is not inherently transphobic.
[05:25]	schestowitz[TR]	we cook it with coconut oilk
[05:25]	DaemonFC	In fact a lot of men engage in it every day without considering it.
[05:25]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: leave the troll alone
[05:26]	schestowitz[TR]	he's trying to derail meaningful discussions
[05:26]	mjg59_	schestowitz[TR]: You could just answer the question and then I would stop asking
[05:26]	schestowitz[TR]	he defected from transphobia to taking the shit out of trans people
[05:26]	mjg59_	I'm not sure how discussions about buckwheat have anything to do with tech?
[05:26]	schestowitz[TR]	he's still doing the same
[05:26]	schestowitz[TR]	but different approach
[05:26]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: back to food,
[05:26]	schestowitz[TR]	so years ago we reckoned
[05:26]	mjg59_	Food, that notable tech topic
[05:26]	schestowitz[TR]	if food bill is down,
[05:27]	schestowitz[TR]	that's like a massive relief
[05:27]	mjg59_	schestowitz[TR]: I'm curious why you fail to understand why hypothesising about someone's genital arrangements is anything other than transphobic
[05:27]	schestowitz[TR]	but you need to know where the cheaper things are offloaded to
[05:27]	schestowitz[TR]	tbere's always somewhere
[05:27]	schestowitz[TR]	and  people with connections
[05:27]	immibis	mjg59_: when you ask schestowitz[TR] a question that reflects badly on him, he says "brb" and disappears
[05:27]	schestowitz[TR]	we don't have direct connections
[05:27]	schestowitz[TR]	usuualyl they prefer not to throe away the unsold stuff
[05:28]	schestowitz[TR]	like, "damaged packaging
[05:28]	DaemonFC	mjg59_ likes to speculate about speculating about genitals.
[05:28]	schestowitz[TR]	or like in walmmart
[05:28]	schestowitz[TR]	"damaged by sprinklers"
[05:28]	DaemonFC	If he wasn't asking this over and over it would be something else.
[05:28]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: back on topid
[05:28]	schestowitz[TR]	ignore trolls
[05:28]	schestowitz[TR]	so mandy packaged them up
[05:28]	mjg59_	schestowitz[TR]: Why is food on topic?
[05:28]	schestowitz[TR]	and sent them somewhere
[05:28]	schestowitz[TR]	you might want to know where
[05:28]	schestowitz[TR]	it could be resold there
[05:28]	schestowitz[TR]	with "imperfections"
[05:29]	schestowitz[TR]	like "carton doesn't look right"
[05:29]	DaemonFC	Damaged by sprinklers.
[05:29]	schestowitz[TR]	yeah
[05:29]	schestowitz[TR]	"damaged"
[05:29]	DaemonFC	Nignogs do $4 million in damages.
[05:29]	schestowitz[TR]	damaghes the brand
[05:29]	DaemonFC	To create a distraction to run out with a few TVs.
[05:29]	schestowitz[TR]	you don't want to buy a good brand
[05:29]	schestowitz[TR]	and then see imperfection
[05:29]	schestowitz[TR]	and it causes walmart problems with the supplier
[05:29]	schestowitz[TR]	so they offload it
[05:30]	schestowitz[TR]	and we know where to pick up those things
[05:30]	schestowitz[TR]	mjg59_: why are you so racist?
[05:30]	schestowitz[TR]	see a therapist
[05:30]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: the issue is economic
[05:31]	schestowitz[TR]	some people are angry at the economy
[05:31]	schestowitz[TR]	and desperate
[05:31]	schestowitz[TR]	if you look after them better
[05:31]	schestowitz[TR]	they would not hurt the surrounding shops/people
[05:31]	DaemonFC	Shoot them.
[05:31]	DaemonFC	They won't do it again.
[05:31]	schestowitz[TR]	the other day koch-funde dmedia" scolded public housing
[05:31]	schestowitz[TR]	it does cost
[05:31]	schestowitz[TR]	but there arebenefits
[05:31]	schestowitz[TR]	possible reduced crime
[05:32]	schestowitz[TR]	people mind their own business in their public housing
[05:32]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: shooting them won't help
[05:32]	schestowitz[TR]	it can cause riots
[05:32]	schestowitz[TR]	if the reaction is not proportional to the crime
[05:32]	schestowitz[TR]	the ethinic dynamics are not the same here
[05:33]	schestowitz[TR]	for historical reasons
[05:33]	schestowitz[TR]	the countries of origin
[05:33]	schestowitz[TR]	and professions
[05:33]	schestowitz[TR]	the underclass is not "coloured"
[05:33]	schestowitz[TR]	it's a poverty issue
[05:33]	schestowitz[TR]	there are still safety nets
[05:33]	schestowitz[TR]	for the poor
[05:33]	schestowitz[TR]	esp. with kids
[05:33]	schestowitz[TR]	to ensure the kids can grow up ok
[05:34]	schestowitz[TR]	the issue nin the west is now,
[05:34]	schestowitz[TR]	those who have kids are
[05:34]	schestowitz[TR]	not well educated
[05:34]	schestowitz[TR]	or immigrants
[05:34]	schestowitz[TR]	so the resources are poorly directed
[05:34]	schestowitz[TR]	how to battle this
[05:34]	schestowitz[TR]	more support for domestic [sic] reproduction
[05:34]	schestowitz[TR]	but that's expensive
[05:34]	schestowitz[TR]	japan has just allcoated 25 billion dollars to that
[05:34]	schestowitz[TR]	south korea is a joke
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR]	they cover the cost only for year oner
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR]	diapers and stuff
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR]	what about age 2-22?
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR]	it's like they say, we'll  participate wit 5%
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR]	you will pay 95%
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR]	"thank you for playing"
[05:35]	schestowitz[TR]	at the end they end up importing labour to look after the old
[05:36]	schestowitz[TR]	in japan they try to develop robots for it
[05:36]	schestowitz[TR]	in turn it improves their tech sector
[05:36]	schestowitz[TR]	but robots cannot replace humans for most tasks
[05:36]	schestowitz[TR]	robots are also expensive to repair and maintain
[05:36]	schestowitz[TR]	they take battery, they are very proprietary
[05:37]	schestowitz[TR]	walmart can only stack shelves with robots in very limited scenario
[05:37]	schestowitz[TR]	that fork lifts already help with
[05:37]	schestowitz[TR]	and you cannot run a fork lift on its own... far too dangerous
[05:37]	schestowitz[TR]	the whole warehouse collapses sometimes
[05:37]	schestowitz[TR]	machines running amok... getting videos
[05:37]	schestowitz[TR]	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=pbIjL2jdn8M
[05:37]	TR Bot	 Incredible moment forklift driver causes an entire warehouse to collapse when he bumps into shelf - Invidious
[05:38]	schestowitz[TR]	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ZWYH_lCpl8w
[05:38]	TR Bot	 News Forklift accident creates warehouse disaster in viral video - Invidious
[05:38]	schestowitz[TR]	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5zi_ctdK35U
[05:38]	TR Bot	 Warehouse racks collapse - Invidious
[05:38]	schestowitz[TR]	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=V8ZmOgMlyRE
[05:38]	TR Bot	 Forklift accident brings down a warehouse in Russia - Invidious
[05:38]	schestowitz[TR]	now imagine gulagboy and co putting those on a computer
[05:38]	schestowitz[TR]	hilarity ensues
[05:38]	schestowitz[TR]	or people nearby buried alive
[05:38]	DaemonFC	https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/26/bubblicious-used-car-prices-rising-faster-than-bitcoin-jim-bianco-warns-.html
[05:38]	TR Bot	 Bubblicious used car prices rising faster than bitcoin, Jim Bianco warns
[05:39]	DaemonFC	They're still bad.
[05:39]	DaemonFC	Saw a 2007 Mini Cooper and they wanted $9,000 for it earlier.
[05:39]	schestowitz[TR]	wot??
[05:40]	schestowitz[TR]	used?
[05:40]	schestowitz[TR]	16 years?
[05:40]	schestowitz[TR]	tiny mini cooper?
[05:40]	schestowitz[TR]	"*f that, I'm  buying a boat"
[05:42]	immibis	[5:49:17 am] <schestowitz[TR]> direction two: well, don't want to even ask about how many holes etc. <- what DID you mean by this?
[05:42]	schestowitz[TR]	humans have many holes
[05:42]	schestowitz[TR]	I have at least 7
[05:42]	schestowitz[TR]	you need to scroll up
[05:42]	schestowitz[TR]	see the context of this remark
[05:42]	mjg59_	schestowitz[TR]: Oh, so now you think seeing a therapist is good?
[05:43]	mjg59_	schestowitz[TR]: And what *was* the context of that remark?
[05:43]	schestowitz[TR]	your scarcasm meter is broken
[05:43]	schestowitz[TR]	fix it
[05:43]	TR News	Not really. Pure spin. https://www.finextra.com/blogposting/24326/big-techs-layoffs-present-an-opportunity-for-startups
[05:43]	TR Bot	 Big techs layoffs present an opportunity for startups
[05:43]	mjg59_	Oh no he's gone to cry
[05:44]	mjg59_	immibis: It seems like he deals poorly with multiple people asking him to justify his transphobia
[05:44]	TR News	Media that covers "Harry" = clickbait, serving oligarchs' interest
[05:44]	immibis	schestowitz[TR]: in context it still makes no sense
[05:44]	immibis	what does it mean?
[05:45]	TR News	What about the CLASS gap? When class war gets gendered we all stand to lose, esp. women. https://www.cmswire.com/customer-experience/bridging-the-gender-gap-in-customer-experience-leadership/
[05:45]	TR Bot	 Closing the Gender Gap: Empowering Women in CX, CS and Tech
[05:46]	TR News	Spotify is losing a BILLION DOLLARS a year. BILLION! PER YEAR. https://techstory.in/spotify-to-lay-off-200-workers-in-podcast-division/
[05:46]	TR Bot	 Spotify to lay off 200 workers in podcast division - TechStory
[05:47]	TR News	Patent troll and anti-Linux (FUD) company https://tvovermind.com/blackberry-what-happened-after-where-company-today/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Blackberry
[05:47]	TR Bot	 What Happened After BlackBerry? Where the Company is Today?
[05:47]	TR Bot	 Blackberry - Techrights
[05:47]	mjg59_	schestowitz[TR]: The context was you asserting that I harmed trans people
[05:48]	TR News	6/6 Diablo day. Microsoft still cannot have it. CMA in the way, Microsoft now bribing and hiring more lobbyists to attack the REGULATOR! http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Florian_M%C3%BCller
[05:48]	TR Bot	 Florian Mller - Techrights
[05:48]	mjg59_	schestowitz[TR]: So, in that context, what did your "how many holes" mean?
[05:48]	schestowitz[TR]	<schestowitz[TR]> direction one: PR damage
[05:48]	schestowitz[TR]	you attack trans causes
[05:48]	schestowitz[TR]	from multiple directions
[05:49]	mjg59_	How so?
[05:49]	schestowitz[TR]	quit wasting time
[05:49]	schestowitz[TR]	go read 
[05:49]	schestowitz[TR]	it's up there 
[05:49]	schestowitz[TR]	very clear
[05:49]	mjg59_	It's not
[05:49]	mjg59_	Or I wouldn't be asking
[05:49]	schestowitz[TR]	leave me alone to write articles
[05:49]	schestowitz[TR]	and stop attacking trans causes
[05:49]	schestowitz[TR]	you are harming them
[05:49]	schestowitz[TR]	they contact me privately
[05:49]	schestowitz[TR]	they are truly sick of you
[05:49]	mjg59_	05:10 < mjg59_> 04:49 < schestowitz[TR]> direction two: well, don't want to even ask about how many holes etc.
[05:49]	mjg59_	What did that mean?
[05:50]	immibis	schestowitz[TR]: please explain what it means
[05:51]	TR News	HMRC 2.5 Weeks Later. Still no action concerning tax fraud... with connection to the British government.
[05:51]	TR News	What good is a monopolistic taxman (called after the monarchy) that cannot assess its own tax abuses?
[05:52]	TR News	Attack on science. Helps the plunderers get away with class war. https://www.thederrick.com/ap/scientists-political-donations-reflect-polarization-in-academia-with-implications-for-the-publics-trust-in-science/article_79f94e65-44b3-56c6-b986-5eed636540aa.html
[05:52]	TR Bot	political donations reflect polarization in academia with implications for the public's trust in science | Ap | thederrick.com
[05:53]	TR News	"hottest gadget in the world"??? You cannot even buy this? Puff piece bought by Apple? Obviously! https://uk.news.yahoo.com/apple-vision-pro-went-hands-085500361.html
[05:53]	TR Bot	 Apple Vision Pro: I went hands-on with the hottest gadget in the world and Im a believer
[05:54]	TR News	So now we have MET iVerse
[05:54]	TR News	next press conference of Apple: no, wait, don't divest! Apple Vision Pro 2 will do HEY HI!!!!
[05:55]	TR News	ELIZA did not know she would be brought back to life amid 200k+ tech layoffs under the banner of a buzzword
[05:56]	TR News	Rough estimate: number of staff, temps and contractors laid off by Microsoft in 2023: 20,000-30,000 http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Layoffs
[05:56]	TR Bot	 Microsoft - Layoffs - Techrights
[05:56]	TR News	Media that reprints/parrots what companies _claim_ about number of layoffs is not media. It's a parrot.
[05:56]	DaemonFC	https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/07/chinas-exports-plunge-by-7point5percent-in-may-far-more-than-expected.html
[05:56]	TR Bot	 China's exports plunge by 7.5% in May, far more than expected
[05:57]	schestowitz[TR]	no!!
[05:57]	schestowitz[TR]	stop saying that
[05:57]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Fine to use words like "plunge" when it's China.
[05:57]	schestowitz[TR]	heresy!
[05:57]	DaemonFC	Where do those exports go?
[05:57]	schestowitz[TR]	your house shall be raided
[05:57]	schestowitz[TR]	no bad news allowerd!!
[05:57]	DaemonFC	To the people in the "cooling" economies.
[05:57]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: in the US it's "slowing hirinng"
[05:57]	schestowitz[TR]	and "slowing growth"
[05:57]	schestowitz[TR]	measure in $
[05:57]	schestowitz[TR]	while $ loses like 10% of its worth in one year
[05:58]	schestowitz[TR]	<techrights-news> "Slowing Hiring" is how Rupert Murdoch's propaganda apparatus says LAYOFFS https://www.wsj.com/articles/reddit-is-cutting-about-5-of-its-workforce-and-slowing-hiring-amid-restructuring-63cfade9
[05:58]	schestowitz[TR]	-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Reddit Laying Off About 90 Employees and Slowing Hiring Amid Restructuring - WSJ
[05:58]	schestowitz[TR]	<tessier> Once DALnet got DOSd to death that was the end.
[05:58]	schestowitz[TR]	<schestowitz[TR]> DaemonFC: walmart has "Slowing Hiring":
[05:58]	schestowitz[TR]	<schestowitz[TR]> is mandy affected by the "Slowing Hiring"?
[05:58]	TR Bot	Laying Off About 90 Employees and Slowing Hiring Amid Restructuring - WSJ
[05:58]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: excuse me while I have slowing [something]
[05:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[05:59]	schestowitz[TR]	"slow witted"
● Jun 07
[06:00]	schestowitz[TR]	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=o25I2fzFGoY
[06:00]	TR Bot	 George Carlin on soft language - Invidious
[06:00]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Most of China's exports go to Walmart.
[06:00]	schestowitz[TR]	most?
[06:00]	schestowitz[TR]	no
[06:00]	schestowitz[TR]	but some
[06:01]	schestowitz[TR]	you could say the non-food sections are majority chinese in origin
[06:01]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe not
[06:01]	DaemonFC	Almost all of it.
[06:01]	schestowitz[TR]	clothes: cambodia, pakistan, india, vietnam, china
[06:01]	DaemonFC	They still sell some American-made car tires.
[06:01]	DaemonFC	But you need to special order them like I did.
[06:01]	mjg59_	04:49 < schestowitz[TR]> direction two: well, don't want to even ask about how many holes etc. <- what did this mean?
[06:01]	DaemonFC	Or you get Chinese crap on your wheels.
[06:01]	schestowitz[TR]	elecronics: china, maybe a few (really) in korea and jp
[06:01]	schestowitz[TR]	and tw counts as cn to them
[06:01]	schestowitz[TR]	even the furniture
[06:02]	schestowitz[TR]	a lot of it made in china
[06:02]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe assembles for you in a warehouse in the us
[06:02]	schestowitz[TR]	like that one down in GA
[06:02]	schestowitz[TR]	where they employ people cheaply
[06:02]	schestowitz[TR]	and can expose them to hazardous things
[06:02]	schestowitz[TR]	some buy it "flat packed"
[06:02]	schestowitz[TR]	whichg sucks
[06:02]	schestowitz[TR]	I hate that
[06:02]	schestowitz[TR]	I end up wasting hours and getting blisters
[06:02]	schestowitz[TR]	another example of service removed
[06:03]	schestowitz[TR]	even the bikes
[06:03]	schestowitz[TR]	many are sold unassembled
[06:03]	schestowitz[TR]	you need to pay extra to get an actual bike
[06:03]	schestowitz[TR]	not "some shit ina  box"
[06:03]	schestowitz[TR]	thatr you lack tools to assembly "safety"
[06:03]	schestowitz[TR]	and properly
[06:03]	schestowitz[TR]	so the wheel might fall off
[06:03]	schestowitz[TR]	because you don't have tools to tightewn it right
[06:03]	schestowitz[TR]	it's the shrinkflation for home goods
[06:04]	schestowitz[TR]	the sofas and drawers and stuff... in a box
[06:04]	schestowitz[TR]	from china
[06:04]	schestowitz[TR]	"good luck doing the last step of manufacturing
[06:04]	schestowitz[TR]	with a cheap screwdriver andno skill/experience
[06:04]	schestowitz[TR]	and hope it won't fall off
[06:04]	schestowitz[TR]	no spare parts
[06:04]	schestowitz[TR]	if it perishes, buy a new one
[06:04]	schestowitz[TR]	also from china
[06:04]	schestowitz[TR]	also in a box
[06:04]	schestowitz[TR]	have fun with wood and cheap metal lego
[06:05]	schestowitz[TR]	or plastic with metal "finish"
[06:05]	schestowitz[TR]	to make it look like the old, real thing
[06:05]	schestowitz[TR]	that lasted 50 years
[06:05]	schestowitz[TR]	what next? after them selling things in a box, unassembled?
[06:05]	schestowitz[TR]	where else to cut costs and sack staff?
[06:05]	mjg59_	What does this have to do with tech
[06:05]	schestowitz[TR]	you come pick it up from inside the warehouse
[06:05]	schestowitz[TR]	with your own car
[06:06]	schestowitz[TR]	"drive thru"?
[06:06]	mjg59_	04:49 < schestowitz[TR]> direction two: well, don't want to even ask about how many holes etc. <- what did this mean?
[06:06]	schestowitz[TR]	"please scan with the app"
[06:06]	schestowitz[TR]	move to the next section
[06:06]	schestowitz[TR]	go find the box with the chairs
[06:06]	schestowitz[TR]	take it home and assemble
[06:06]	schestowitz[TR]	50 years ago:
[06:06]	schestowitz[TR]	you see the real thing in the store, sit on it
[06:06]	schestowitz[TR]	like in ikea
[06:06]	schestowitz[TR]	but they give boxes
[06:07]	schestowitz[TR]	not pre-assembled
[06:07]	schestowitz[TR]	then they dribing it in a van or truck toi your home
[06:07]	schestowitz[TR]	assembled by their staff
[06:07]	schestowitz[TR]	in the factory or inside your home for large items
[06:07]	schestowitz[TR]	to avoid damaging doors and stairs
[06:07]	schestowitz[TR]	so the service AND products got worse
[06:07]	schestowitz[TR]	price did not improve
[06:07]	schestowitz[TR]	the growth is _at the expense of your time_
[06:07]	schestowitz[TR]	two jobs 
[06:08]	schestowitz[TR]	and after work and work... go home build the vabinet
[06:08]	schestowitz[TR]	then sleep 4 hours... for the first job
[06:08]	schestowitz[TR]	996
[06:08]	schestowitz[TR]	but informally
[06:08]	schestowitz[TR]	9an-9pm
[06:08]	schestowitz[TR]	8am-10am inc. cmmunte
[06:08]	schestowitz[TR]	*pm
[06:09]	schestowitz[TR]	drop in bed 11pm, wake up 4am for breakfast
[06:09]	schestowitz[TR]	to pay the mortgage 
[06:09]	schestowitz[TR]	on the home you sleep in every day
[06:09]	schestowitz[TR]	once a week you get th rest from work and do the food shopping, cleaning, laughdry
[06:09]	schestowitz[TR]	and this is "freedom"
[06:09]	schestowitz[TR]	because you get your own home, owned by the bank till you turn 65
[06:10]	schestowitz[TR]	then you have no pension
[06:10]	schestowitz[TR]	because... 401k
[06:10]	schestowitz[TR]	so reverse mortgage
[06:10]	DaemonFC	MinceR, Watching Under the Dome.
[06:10]	schestowitz[TR]	give the home back to the bank
[06:10]	DaemonFC	The dome appears and splits a cow in half.
[06:10]	schestowitz[TR]	to ""emit" some monthly "food money"
[06:10]	DaemonFC	I say..... "Side of beef?"
[06:10]	DaemonFC	:)
[06:10]	schestowitz[TR]	till you die at 71
[06:10]	DaemonFC	He should have moooooooooo-ved over.
[06:10]	schestowitz[TR]	so you gave the home for a few years' food ;-)
[06:10]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: madame harmon
[06:11]	mjg59_	04:49 < schestowitz[TR]> direction two: well, don't want to even ask about how many holes etc. <- what did this mean?
[06:11]	schestowitz[TR]	mjg59_: spin off your own ircd
[06:11]	schestowitz[TR]	and troll there
[06:11]	schestowitz[TR]	leave us alone
[06:11]	schestowitz[TR]	I'm putting you on ignore right now, and mute
[06:11]	mjg59_	Ignore *and* mute!
[06:12]	mjg59_	Just imagine how much disruption I'll be able to cause without you noticing
[06:12]	mjg59_	(Kidding, I have no intention of causing disruption)
[06:12]	TR News	RMS is in italy this week, giving talks https://stallman.org/talks.html
[06:12]	TR Bot	 Talks - Richard Stallman
[06:13]	mjg59_	Anyway now he's ignoring me he's not going to complain when I point out his transphobia
[06:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[06:23]	TR News	 Dr. Stallman is in Italy to give talks at universities this week; he will soon give a live talk, accessible in his site or directly at the source | Gemini address: Dr. Stallman is in Italy to give talks at universities this week; he will soon give a live talk, accessible in his site or directly at the source
[06:23]	TR News	Richard Stallmans Talk is in 3 Hours and Theres a BigBlueButton Livestream | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/07/working-for-the-public-universities-software-and-freedom/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/07/working-for-the-public-universities-software-and-freedom/
[06:23]	TR Bot	 Richard Stallmans Talk is in 3 Hours and Theres a BigBlueButton Livestream | Techrights
[06:24]	schestowitz[TR]	hmm... actuall 2 hours
[06:24]	schestowitz[TR]	CET 
[06:24]	schestowitz[TR]	correcting
[06:24]		*schestowitz[TR] will get coffee and watch it
[06:27]	immibis	schestowitz[TR]: I actually want to know what it means
[06:28]	schestowitz[TR]	oh, the feed went live 2 mins ago
[06:28]	schestowitz[TR]	it plays music over Invidious for now
[06:28]	schestowitz[TR]	till the talk starts
[06:28]	schestowitz[TR]	nice
[06:29]	schestowitz[TR]	immibis: if you keep changing the channels topic for the sole purpose of undermining the network, I will mute you too
[06:29]		*cybrNaut has quit (Quit: bailing)
[06:30]	schestowitz[TR]	activelow is already muted at my end
[06:30]	schestowitz[TR]	don't wanna waste time on crap
[06:31]	TR News	The stream has just been stopped. Someone is taking a footage of his/her desktop/laptop. http://techrights.org/2023/06/07/working-for-the-public-universities-software-and-freedom/
[06:31]	mjg59_	immibis: He won't defend it because he knows it's indefensible
[06:32]	mjg59_	immibis: Criticism of Roy is "Undermining the network" - he *is* this network, apparently
[06:34]	immibis	schestowitz[TR]: you are the one who set the topic by making the statement
[06:35]	TR News	If we still had independent press, we'd know what those numbers are 11 years after this was published (a billionaire from Canada now owns this site) https://www.reuters.com/article/us-offshore-wealth-idUSBRE86L03U20120722
[06:35]	TR Bot	rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens | Reuters
[06:35]	immibis	if the statement was off-topic you shouldn't have said it
[06:35]	schestowitz[TR]	i responded to provocation
[06:35]	mjg59_	Yeah, it can't be off-topic to discuss something the owner of the channel said
[06:35]	schestowitz[TR]	the provocation is designed to do this
[06:35]	mjg59_	What provocation?
[06:36]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: https://www.cullmantimes.com/news/walmart-announces-350-million-plan-to-automate-distribution-center/article_ad457bc4-049c-11ee-8797-4f965c6df2be.html
[06:36]	TR Bot	announces $350 million plan to automate distribution center | News | cullmantimes.com
[06:36]	schestowitz[TR]	so you see where this is going
[06:36]	schestowitz[TR]	under the banner of "tech"
[06:36]	schestowitz[TR]	20230
[06:36]	schestowitz[TR]	drive-thru
[06:37]	immibis	there was no provocation - you were monologuing for a good half hour with DaemonFC occasionally affirming whatever you said
[06:37]	schestowitz[TR]	pick your item from the warehouse
[06:37]	schestowitz[TR]	assemble at home
[06:37]	schestowitz[TR]	on your own
[06:37]	schestowitz[TR]	"WE STILL TOOLS, TOO!!"
[06:37]	schestowitz[TR]	automatic power drill with "smart... now discounted... just 50 dollars
[06:37]	schestowitz[TR]	use ones, forget about it
[06:37]	schestowitz[TR]	it stops working before you need it next
[06:38]	schestowitz[TR]	buy a new one
[06:38]	schestowitz[TR]	with a tablet on it
[06:38]	schestowitz[TR]	in 2035
[06:38]	schestowitz[TR]	more sales
[06:38]	schestowitz[TR]	flat packed goods from chi-wan
[06:38]	schestowitz[TR]	plus tools
[06:38]	schestowitz[TR]	plus VAT
[06:38]	schestowitz[TR]	ka-ching, more expensive than ever
[06:38]	schestowitz[TR]	"better buy a car"
[06:39]	mjg59_	See, this has even less to do with tech
[06:39]	schestowitz[TR]	"we don't deliver furniture to homes anymore"
[06:39]	schestowitz[TR]	"there is an app for a person to assemble it"
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[06:39]	schestowitz[TR]	"gig economy... the person is paid 2$ an hour, app company is paid $10 an hour"
[06:39]	schestowitz[TR]	welcome to the future
[06:39]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], I might just throw all this cheap furniture in operational improvements' dumpster and leave.
[06:39]	schestowitz[TR]	better save sunday for some home carpentry 
[06:40]	schestowitz[TR]	it's awful
[06:40]	schestowitz[TR]	here with argos
[06:40]	schestowitz[TR]	they even ship you broken pieces
[06:40]	schestowitz[TR]	and ask you to put them together
[06:40]	schestowitz[TR]	with tools you don't have
[06:40]	schestowitz[TR]	and  to assemble it takes far more than trained professional with power tools
[06:40]	schestowitz[TR]	so you might buil;d for 3 hours sometimes an experience pro with the right tool builds in 20 mins
[06:41]	schestowitz[TR]	and, if done in parallel, or assemby line, 5 minutes
[06:41]	schestowitz[TR]	so they fuck with you
[06:41]	schestowitz[TR]	with your time
[06:41]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.reddit.com/r/geek/comments/4zl3e1/happy_birthday_linux_heres_your_cake/
[06:41]	TR Bot	- Dive into anything
[06:42]	schestowitz[TR]	https://i.imgur.com/VuPsdac.png
[06:42]	schestowitz[TR]	but not for code
[06:42]	schestowitz[TR]	for all goods
[06:42]	schestowitz[TR]	you do all the work
[06:42]	schestowitz[TR]	slowlu
[06:42]	schestowitz[TR]	worse than gig "economics"
[06:42]	schestowitz[TR]	no service
[06:42]	schestowitz[TR]	same at till
[06:42]	schestowitz[TR]	scan with lousy ui
[06:42]	schestowitz[TR]	for 10 minutes
[06:42]	schestowitz[TR]	with the industrial grade scanners do in 1 minute
[06:43]	schestowitz[TR]	"thank you for shopping walmart"
[06:43]	schestowitz[TR]	they give another option
[06:43]	schestowitz[TR]	wait in the long queue for 20 minutes
[06:43]	mjg59_	What does furniture assembly have to do with tech
[06:43]	schestowitz[TR]	red pill, blue pill
[06:49]	AdmFubar	https://www.techdirt.com/2023/06/05/broadband-usage-caps-now-drive-more-broadband-usage-study-finds/
[06:49]	TR Bot	Usage Caps Now Drive MORE Broadband Usage, Study Finds | Techdirt
[06:50]	schestowitz[TR]	psychological
[06:50]	schestowitz[TR]	give caps
[06:50]	schestowitz[TR]	people will perceive worth
[06:50]	schestowitz[TR]	and get their money's worth
[06:50]	schestowitz[TR]	no b/w caps here
[06:50]	schestowitz[TR]	and we finally got fibre in feb (2/1) 
[06:50]	schestowitz[TR]	and uptime has been great
[06:51]	schestowitz[TR]	doing offsite backups of the sites is now a breeze
[06:51]	schestowitz[TR]	even without rsync, just raw copies
[06:52]	AdmFubar	https://www.techdirt.com/2023/06/05/twitter-admits-in-court-filing-elon-musk-is-simply-wrong-about-government-interference-at-twitter/
[06:52]	TR Bot	Admits in Court Filing: Elon Musk Is Simply Wrong About Government Interference At Twitter | Techdirt
[06:52]	TR News	Kramer and "STALL MAN" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=QaMkQdibzjk
[06:52]	TR Bot	 STALL MAN #seinfeld #comedy #funny #laugh #jerryseinfeld #kramer #georgecostanza #urinal #stall - Invidious
[06:52]	schestowitz[TR]	AdmFubar: musk saved us from jack
[06:52]	schestowitz[TR]	by shutting down twitter
[06:52]	schestowitz[TR]	fire staff
[06:52]	schestowitz[TR]	promote desantis
[06:53]	schestowitz[TR]	useer count falls
[06:53]	schestowitz[TR]	advertisers flee
[06:53]	AdmFubar	jack?
[06:53]	schestowitz[TR]	"blame the libs"
[06:53]	schestowitz[TR]	the end
[06:53]	schestowitz[TR]	jack dorsseyt
[06:53]	AdmFubar	https://www.tweaktown.com/news/91755/xbox-hit-with-20-million-fine-for-illegally-retaining-children-personal-information/index.html
[06:53]	schestowitz[TR]	@jack
[06:53]	TR Bot	 Xbox hit with a $20 million fine for 'illegally retaining children's personal information'
[06:53]	schestowitz[TR]	*dorsey
[06:53]	schestowitz[TR]	only twitter addicts will suffer
[06:53]	schestowitz[TR]	not me
[06:54]	schestowitz[TR]	and news orgs are among those addicts
[06:54]	schestowitz[TR]	they thought garnering "followership" in yoitube is better than rss
[06:54]	schestowitz[TR]	for many of them it's now cruising towards worthlessness
[06:55]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.techdirt.com/2023/06/02/turns-out-social-media-is-driving-less-and-less-traffic-to-media-orgs/
[06:55]	TR Bot	Out Social Media Is Driving Less And Less Traffic To Media Orgs | Techdirt
[06:55]	schestowitz[TR]	https://pressgazette.co.uk/media-audience-and-business-data/media_metrics/news-referral-traffic-breakdown/
[06:55]	schestowitz[TR]	so bad on them
[06:55]	schestowitz[TR]	bad judgement
[06:55]	TR Bot	 How do consumers find news? News referral traffic breakdown
[06:55]	schestowitz[TR]	I always caustioned people against that
[06:55]	schestowitz[TR]	and orgs too
[06:55]	AdmFubar	https://techxplore.com/news/2023-06-banks-reliance-chatbots-customer-tasks.html
[06:55]	TR Bot	 Banks' growing reliance on chatbots to handle customer service tasks worries consumer watchdog
[06:55]	schestowitz[TR]	twitter was bound to collpase one day
[06:55]	schestowitz[TR]	like freenode did
[06:55]	schestowitz[TR]	even if the sitres "on" twitter were still alive and well
[06:55]	schestowitz[TR]	or FOSS projects on freenode
[06:56]	schestowitz[TR]	they assign their destiny to some other party
[06:56]	schestowitz[TR]	many STILL do this with github
[06:56]	schestowitz[TR]	until github is offline
[06:56]	schestowitz[TR]	or expensive
[06:56]	schestowitz[TR]	GitHub had TWO rounds of layoffs this year
[06:56]	schestowitz[TR]	we're only in June
[06:57]	schestowitz[TR]	AdmFubar: not a new problem re banks
[06:57]	schestowitz[TR]	some medical practices also
[06:57]	schestowitz[TR]	trying to guess what you want
[06:57]	schestowitz[TR]	and giving irrelevant things
[06:57]	schestowitz[TR]	it's just a more enhanced phone menu
[06:57]	schestowitz[TR]	or web page
[06:57]	schestowitz[TR]	nothing more
[06:57]	schestowitz[TR]	or "use google"
[06:57]	schestowitz[TR]	people should choose firms that still offer a service
[06:57]	schestowitz[TR]	and employ actual staff
[06:57]	mjg59_	What happens if I do https://tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/297876977
[06:57]	schestowitz[TR]	no "apps" and "sites"
[06:58]	AdmFubar	roy.. have taken up drinking?
[06:58]	schestowitz[TR]	?
[06:58]	schestowitz[TR]	no
[06:58]	schestowitz[TR]	i rarely drunk these days
[06:58]	schestowitz[TR]	*drink
[06:58]	schestowitz[TR]	sometimes I type while standing
[06:58]	mjg59_	TechrightsBot-tr: Yo
[06:58]	schestowitz[TR]	I do exercise atm
[06:58]	mjg59_	Huh I guess I can crash the bot without roy noticing now
[06:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[06:59]	mjg59_	So! A fun fact is that Roy is writing fewer TR articles per day than he did this time last year, when he also had a full-time job
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[06:59]	schestowitz[TR]	AdmFubar: sarcasm there?
[06:59]	schestowitz[TR]	anyway, back after a set
● Jun 07
[07:00]	AdmFubar	no actual concern...
[07:02]	schestowitz[TR]	i used to casually drink at events
[07:03]	schestowitz[TR]	alcoholic beverages are fattening
[07:03]	schestowitz[TR]	health aspects aside
[07:03]	schestowitz[TR]	and i won't do "shots"... very bad for liver etc.
[07:04]	schestowitz[TR]	we are selling our wine rack
[07:04]	schestowitz[TR]	but you must come pick up in person
[07:04]	DaemonFC	mjg59_ can probably drink it all for you if it's too heavy.
[07:05]	schestowitz[TR]	https://schestowitz.com/tr/
[07:05]	TR Bot	 Trends Right Fashion for All
[07:05]	mjg59_	Wine racks are typically not liquid
[07:05]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325485772025?hash=item4bc876bcf9:g:KIIAAOSw8YVjtEHy
[07:05]	TR Bot	 M&S 30 Bottle Pine Wood and Metal Self Build Wine Rack | eBay
[07:05]	DaemonFC	I meant 30 bottles of wine.
[07:06]	schestowitz[TR]	we emptied it last year
[07:06]	schestowitz[TR]	not had any alcohol since
[07:06]	schestowitz[TR]	it's just taking up space and dust
[07:06]	DaemonFC	https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/post-your-latest-caf-change.353795/
[07:06]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/post-your-latest-caf-change.353795/ )
[07:06]	DaemonFC	"
[07:06]	DaemonFC	My Nissans are due. I dread doing them because it's a once and done endeavor with Nissan due to the terrible design. You typically ruin the filter removing it and you have to squish the new one to fit it though the hole for reinstall and hope it expands properly once it's in there."
[07:06]	DaemonFC	That's how cabin filters are for GM cars.
[07:07]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: all this HEY AI and auitomation
[07:07]	schestowitz[TR]	neither
[07:07]	DaemonFC	It's really hard getting them in there if they aren't OEM because the OEM are designed to flex in three places to go in easier.
[07:07]	schestowitz[TR]	it's about offloading the work
[07:07]	schestowitz[TR]	to de facto slaves
[07:07]	schestowitz[TR]	as noted above
[07:07]	DaemonFC	The filtration media in the OEM filters isn't great.
[07:07]	schestowitz[TR]	they lower standards and expectation
[07:07]	DaemonFC	You end up breathing a lot of nasty crap from the outside.
[07:07]	schestowitz[TR]	so ther point where you expect to do all the word yourself
[07:07]	schestowitz[TR]	withoiut any staff to heeeelp
[07:07]	schestowitz[TR]	no automation there
[07:07]	schestowitz[TR]	and they track your every move
[07:07]	schestowitz[TR]	then sell these "behaviours"
[07:07]	schestowitz[TR]	to insurance companies etc.
[07:07]	DaemonFC	Waukegan has a lot of smog and trucks blowing black smoke and blacks smoking marijuana.
[07:08]	DaemonFC	I don't want it in my car.
[07:08]	schestowitz[TR]	so they can give you the worst prices you can tolerate
[07:08]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], I'm considering getting rid of GEICO.
[07:09]	schestowitz[TR]	-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.ebay.co.uk | M&S 30 Bottle Pine Wood and Metal Self Build Wine Rack  | eBay
[07:09]	DaemonFC	Something about that Malibu they gave me as a loaner made it impossible for GEICO's app to track my driving.
[07:09]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe i should not have posted that URL
[07:09]	schestowitz[TR]	rianne has a crazy stalker
[07:09]	schestowitz[TR]	based in SF
[07:09]	schestowitz[TR]	whom she says doxxes her
[07:09]	schestowitz[TR]	she also keeps saying he looks like a pedo
[07:09]	schestowitz[TR]	her opinion
[07:09]	schestowitz[TR]	"a women's gut feeling"
[07:11]	DaemonFC	mjg59_ doesn't know what a woman is.
[07:11]	DaemonFC	He needs a definition. He asked me to define it for him.
[07:11]	mjg59_	Which you failed to provide
[07:11]	TR News	Is Russia buying back missile parts from India for use against Ukraine? https://qz.com/russia-buying-back-missile-parts-from-india-for-ukraine-1850509311
[07:11]	TR Bot	 Is Russia buying back missile parts from India against Ukraine?
[07:11]	DaemonFC	Yeah, there's a lot of things that come together.
[07:12]	DaemonFC	But it's not changeable by a judge and a guy with a scalpel.
[07:12]	mjg59_	So give a definition
[07:12]	TR News	Ukraine: Statement by High Representative Josep Borrell and Commissioner for Crisis Management Janez Lenari on the destruction of the Kakhovka dam https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/STATEMENT_23_3107 while the EU/EC are attacking the patent justice system, breaking many laws to appease lobbyists
[07:12]	TR Bot	 Press corner | European Commission
[07:13]	TR News	EU lowers its standards. Now it talks about adding a country whose TOP CHIEF PRINCIPAL NATIONAL JUDGE TAKES BRIBES!!
[07:14]	mjg59_	Huh. Guess DaemonFC can't define what a woman is.
[07:14]	TR News	EU has become its own worse enemy for prioritising expansion (corporate reach) at the expense of lawfulness. Over time fewer people will support or _even tolerate_ this.
[07:15]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: back to topic.
[07:15]	schestowitz[TR]	it looks like you talk to a troll
[07:16]	TR News	RMS talk live in 45 mins @ https://stallman.org/live/stream-unipi-jun-7.html
[07:16]	TR Bot	 Working for the public universities, software and freedom - June 7, 2023 - Richard Stallman
[07:18]	TR News	RMS is in Italy for pleasure/lesisure, not business, and to deliver a talk (not for business purposes) about two topics in two universities https://stallmansupport.org/debunking-false-accusations-against-richard-stallman.html#card
[07:18]	TR Bot	 Debunking False Accusation Against Richard Stallman | Stallman Support
[07:19]	TR News	Unlike Bill Gates, RMS flies coach, not Business Class, and doesn't have a private set of jets that he doesn't even use because they lack a bed with naked children on them https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html
[07:19]	TR Bot	 Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times
[07:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[07:21]	AdmFubar	what a great way to hack apple's new lisa vision   https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/141hg9x/controlnet_for_qr_code/
[07:21]	TR Bot	- Dive into anything
[07:24]	AdmFubar	https://tech.slashdot.org/story/23/06/06/204212/reddit-laying-off-employees-and-slowing-hiring-amid-restructuring
[07:24]	TR Bot	 Reddit Laying Off Employees and Slowing Hiring Amid Restructuring - Slashdot
[07:24]	schestowitz[TR]	AdmFubar: Slowing Hiring
[07:24]	schestowitz[TR]	according to Rupe Murdoch
[07:24]	schestowitz[TR]	they are still hiring
[07:24]	schestowitz[TR]	it's OK
[07:24]	schestowitz[TR]	just slowing down a bit
[07:24]	schestowitz[TR]	net growth
[07:24]	schestowitz[TR]	buti
[07:25]	schestowitz[TR]	"slowing growth"
[07:25]	schestowitz[TR]	if it was in China, WSL would say
[07:25]	schestowitz[TR]	"PLUNGER"
[07:25]	schestowitz[TR]	-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.cnbc.com | China's exports plunge by 7.5% in May, far more than expected
[07:25]	schestowitz[TR]	<DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR], Fine to use words like "plunge" when it's China.
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[07:25]	schestowitz[TR]	<schestowitz[TR]> if you drove wheelbarrows of money to buy a loaf of bread, they'd call it "bullish"
[07:25]	schestowitz[TR]	<schestowitz[TR]> <techrights-news> "moderating"... another propaganda term from AP https://michaelwest.com.au/inflation-moderating-despite-latest-uptick-chalmers/ | Source: Michael West Media
[07:25]	AdmFubar	https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/06/06/austria-excel-error-election/
[07:25]	TR Bot	 Inflation 'moderating' despite latest uptick: Chalmers - Michael West
[07:25]	schestowitz[TR]	<schestowitz[TR]> <techrights-news> The new propaganda term after "cooling" is "moderating". Don't say the economy is collapsing, BAD NEWS IS NOT ALLOWED. We now have China-style media...
[07:25]	TR Bot	 Austria's SP shares wrong leadership poll winner after Excel error - The Washington Post
[07:26]	schestowitz[TR]	<techrights-news> Wall Street Times pretends that the US economy is booming. This gaslighting is beyond insane. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/business/stocks-bull-market.html
[07:26]	TR Bot	 Are Stocks in a New Bull Market? It Depends. - The New York Times
[07:26]	schestowitz[TR]	the economy is always good
[07:26]	schestowitz[TR]	never tanking
[07:26]	schestowitz[TR]	even when it does
[07:26]	schestowitz[TR]	media in 2008 was better
[07:26]	schestowitz[TR]	it called out the banksters
[07:26]	schestowitz[TR]	for crashing the markets
[07:27]	schestowitz[TR]	and soaring unemployment
[07:27]	AdmFubar	must eliminate competition  https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/6/23751350/apple-mira-ar-headset-startup
[07:27]	TR Bot	 Apple buys Mira AR headset startup - The Verge
[07:27]	schestowitz[TR]	now they insist only 3% are not employed
[07:29]	TR News	 (NEW): Microsoft Abuses and Problems http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Microsoft_Abuses_and_Problems.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Microsoft_Abuses_and_Problems.gmi 
[07:29]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Microsoft Abuses and Problems
[07:29]	schestowitz[TR]	AdmFubar: your link added^
[07:30]	TR News	Yet another terror attack by Vladimir Putin? https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230606-%F0%9F%94%B4-live-ukraine-says-russian-forces-blew-up-nova-kakhova-dam-in-kherson-region
[07:30]	TR Bot	 Ukraine evacuates 17,000 people from flooded areas after dam destroyed
[07:35]	schestowitz[TR]	Talk by RMS in 25 mins
[07:36]	schestowitz[TR]	https://stallman.org/live/stream-unipi-jun-7.html
[07:36]	TR Bot	 Working for the public universities, software and freedom - June 7, 2023 - Richard Stallman
[07:36]	schestowitz[TR]	trigger warning: he will use the f word a lot
[07:36]	schestowitz[TR]	freedom
[07:36]	schestowitz[TR]	and female
[07:36]	schestowitz[TR]	some people cannot bear those words
[07:36]	schestowitz[TR]	esp. the first word
[07:36]	schestowitz[TR]	who is Daniela Tafani ?
[07:37]	schestowitz[TR]	I am guessing a prof hosting that talk
[07:37]	schestowitz[TR]	talk about f, presented by f
[07:38]	TR News	Russian lies from Russian site? Blaming the victim? https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Russia-Denounces-To-UN-Kievs-Attack-On-The-Kakhovka-Dam-20230606-0019.html
[07:38]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[07:39]	AdmFubar	https://www.bbc.com/news/business-65669537
[07:39]	TR Bot	millions of usable hard drives are being destroyed - BBC News
[07:39]	TR News	later on telesur asks aloud every day why Facebook banned it...
[07:40]	mjg59_	Well, "female" is usually a pretty poor use of word
[07:40]	AdmFubar	https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(23)00167-7
[07:40]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(23)00167-7 )
[07:41]	AdmFubar	reddit: we're just as screwed as twitter https://tech.slashdot.org/story/23/06/06/1444256/reddit-on-new-pricing-plan-company-needs-to-be-fairly-paid
[07:41]	TR Bot	 Reddit on New Pricing Plan: Company 'Needs To Be Fairly Paid' - Slashdot
[07:41]	schestowitz[TR]	yeah
[07:41]	schestowitz[TR]	social control media
[07:41]	schestowitz[TR]	used slaves
[07:42]	schestowitz[TR]	atb s everal levels
[07:42]	schestowitz[TR]	"users"
[07:42]	schestowitz[TR]	and still cnanot make money
[07:42]	schestowitz[TR]	some of them took a while to figure it out
[07:42]	schestowitz[TR]	stack exchange
[07:42]	schestowitz[TR]	ALAO layoffs
[07:42]	schestowitz[TR]	last week
[07:42]	schestowitz[TR]	*also
[07:42]	schestowitz[TR]	because they reckon they just worked for free
[07:42]	schestowitz[TR]	for a greedy company
[07:42]	AdmFubar	https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/sextortionists-are-making-ai-nudes-from-your-social-media-images/
[07:42]	schestowitz[TR]	the coin finally drops
[07:42]	TR Bot	 Sextortionists are making AI nudes from your social media images
[07:42]	AdmFubar	alao?
[07:43]	schestowitz[TR]	typos
[07:43]	schestowitz[TR]	QWERTY
[07:43]	schestowitz[TR]	AdmFubar: first GAFAM
[07:43]	schestowitz[TR]	now twitter, reddit, FB, stack exhcnage
[07:43]	schestowitz[TR]	the serf platforms
[07:43]	schestowitz[TR]	people tired of working there for free
[07:43]	schestowitz[TR]	as private unpaid censors etc.
[07:43]	schestowitz[TR]	they could figure that out years ago
[07:44]	schestowitz[TR]	they own nothing
[07:44]	schestowitz[TR]	now companies harvest data over the API
[07:44]	schestowitz[TR]	to "monetise" it
[07:44]	schestowitz[TR]	look up "clearvie ai"
[07:44]	schestowitz[TR]	among others
[07:44]	schestowitz[TR]	look up "clearview ai"
[07:44]	schestowitz[TR]	they harvest the data
[07:44]	schestowitz[TR]	and then abuse the people in the data
[07:44]	schestowitz[TR]	like relatives of people who use FB
[07:45]	schestowitz[TR]	who never uploaded it
[07:45]	schestowitz[TR]	filmed against their will
[07:45]	schestowitz[TR]	without consent
[07:45]	schestowitz[TR]	there were lawsuits
[07:45]	schestowitz[TR]	the media spin all that as "HEY HI"
[07:45]	schestowitz[TR]	pretending it's worse than nukes
[07:45]	schestowitz[TR]	but it's just an issue of abuse
[07:45]	schestowitz[TR]	and the companies that do the abuse do not get punished
[07:46]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], It just doesn't even make sense to go in some of those days there's so few hours.
[07:47]	DaemonFC	So since there's a fuckton of PPTO you can just call in sick and BOGO. Hey, it's Walmart.
[07:47]	DaemonFC	:P
[07:47]	schestowitz[TR]	yeah
[07:47]	schestowitz[TR]	i buy direct
[07:47]	schestowitz[TR]	and local
[07:47]	schestowitz[TR]	what i can
[07:47]	DaemonFC	They're creating a budget problem for us.
[07:47]	DaemonFC	So why do I care?
[07:47]	DaemonFC	Stay home. Save gas.
[07:47]	schestowitz[TR]	just "work"
[07:47]	schestowitz[TR]	don't be "bum"
[07:47]	schestowitz[TR]	you are killing the economy !!
[07:48]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: make a coupla [sic] babies
[07:48]	schestowitz[TR]	ask the man at walmark to unlock the baby formula cabinet for you
[07:48]	schestowitz[TR]	he won't package it for you
[07:48]	schestowitz[TR]	you will do your own checkout
[07:48]	schestowitz[TR]	:-)
[07:49]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], They have special Walgreens stores now for Chicago.
[07:49]	DaemonFC	They only keep the cheap shit outside a glass cage.
[07:49]	DaemonFC	YOu have to use a tablet to tell an employee back behind the cage what you want if it's over like $5.
[07:49]	DaemonFC	LOL
[07:49]	schestowitz[TR]	5 b ucks
[07:49]	schestowitz[TR]	nice
[07:49]	schestowitz[TR]	so they pay extra 5 bucks to the workers
[07:49]	schestowitz[TR]	right?
[07:49]	schestowitz[TR]	riiiight?
[07:50]	schestowitz[TR]	the workers get ALL the tips, too ;-)
[07:50]	schestowitz[TR]	drpizza: just the tip
[07:50]	schestowitz[TR]	also drpizza: gulagboy si a hero
[07:50]	DaemonFC	Did he say that?
[07:51]	schestowitz[TR]	not in those words
[07:51]	schestowitz[TR]	now he is "stuff writer"
[07:51]	schestowitz[TR]	i.e. microsoft
[07:51]	schestowitz[TR]	*staff
[07:51]	schestowitz[TR]	microsoft is staff at ars 
[07:51]	schestowitz[TR]	even when microsoft is in prison
[07:51]	schestowitz[TR]	for  raping children, literally
[07:51]	schestowitz[TR]	gulagboy was boostedd as a security person by microsofters
[07:51]	schestowitz[TR]	and microsoft publishers
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR]	they groomed him
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR]	the failed biologist
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR]	because he serves their purposes
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR]	and still does 
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR]	in 2023
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR]	pushing TPM into Linux
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR]	juist days ago Microsoft ZDNet mocked opponents of TPM
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR]	as paranoid etc.
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR]	that's theirt rhetoric
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR]	call the critics "isms"
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR]	and "phobic"
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR]	or "cranks"
[07:52]	schestowitz[TR]	because they don't like back doors
[07:52]	DaemonFC	Peter Not So Bright
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR]	gulagboy as "sec" guy is a Microsoft creation
[07:53]	DaemonFC	(Fell for a police trap.)
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR]	they groomed him
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR]	he didn't even do sec before
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR]	acpi is not sec
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR]	it's just some shitty c code
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR]	for hardware apis
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR]	or rev engineeering
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR]	which i doubt he did
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: he was doing two kids at once
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR]	siblings, iirc
[07:53]	schestowitz[TR]	doing them in the ***
[07:54]	DaemonFC	Trying to.
[07:54]	schestowitz[TR]	incect+pedo
[07:54]	schestowitz[TR]	no
[07:54]	schestowitz[TR]	not trying to
[07:54]	schestowitz[TR]	he did
[07:54]	DaemonFC	Whoa
[07:54]	schestowitz[TR]	look at the court docs
[07:54]	schestowitz[TR]	the mom broguht him the "pizzas"
[07:54]	schestowitz[TR]	iirc
[07:54]	schestowitz[TR]	these are the freaks mwho rpopped up gulagboy
[07:54]	schestowitz[TR]	for microsoft
[07:55]	schestowitz[TR]	their repertoire is Microsoft-prepared 'articles'
[07:55]	schestowitz[TR]	tthey only neede dto press some buttons
[07:55]	schestowitz[TR]	wikipedia still links to some of these 'articles'
[07:55]	schestowitz[TR]	to disgraced 'staff writer'
[07:56]	TR News	Revisionism much? Throwing more resources at it to rewrite history? https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/us/politics/nord-stream-pipeline-attack-intelligence.html
[07:56]	TR Bot	 U.S. Was Aware of Ukrainian Plan to Bomb Nord Stream Pipeline Before Attack - The New York Times
[07:58]	TR News	Things blow up. Side A says B did it, B blames A. Where are the REAL journalists? Not the "s/he says" types...
[07:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[07:59]	TR News	Kakhovka Dam in Ukraine Destroyed: What to Know https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/world/europe/ukraine-dam-explainer.html
[07:59]	TR Bot	 Kakhovka Dam in Ukraine Destroyed: What to Know - The New York Times
● Jun 07
[08:01]	TR News	Pluralistic: A business model for bankrupting the oil companies(06 June 2023) https://pluralistic.net/2023/06/06/thats-where-the-money-is/
[08:01]	TR Bot	 Pluralistic: A business model for bankrupting the oil companies(06 June 2023) Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
[08:02]	TR News	If or when there is an invasion of Taiwan there will be no prior warning/notice, for strategic reasons. B&B, Blinken and Biden, play with (ring of) fire.
[08:03]	TR News	European Rights Court Slams Russia's Failure To Adequately Investigate Navalny Poisoning https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-navalny-poisoning-european-rights-court-investigation/32447109.html
[08:03]	TR Bot	 European Rights Court Slams Russia's Failure To Adequately Investigate Navalny Poisoning
[08:04]	TR News	Journalists Not Allowed To Attend Navalny's New Trial Inside Russian Prison https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-navalny-prison-trial-closed-press/32446986.html
[08:04]	TR Bot	 Journalists Not Allowed To Attend Navalny's New Trial Inside Russian Prison
[08:05]	TR News	Russia exporting lies https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Russia-South-Africa-Mass-Media-Partnerships-Prospects-Are-Huge-20230606-0014.html
[08:05]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[08:08]	TR News	Desk still empty. RMS not there yet. https://bbb-be-1.meet.garr.it/html5client/join?sessionToken=985wreyp7hxep79b (link might need this token, maybe permissive)
[08:08]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[08:10]	TR News	Meet Canonical at SmartNICs Summit 2023 https://ubuntu.com//blog/join-canonical-at-smartnics-summit-2023
[08:10]	TR Bot	Canonical at SmartNICs Summit 2023 | Ubuntu
[08:12]	TR News	Almost 13 million Chinese students sit gruelling university entrance exams https://hongkongfp.com/2023/06/07/almost-13-million-chinese-students-sit-gruelling-university-entrance-exams/ "forced classes online for months on end."
[08:12]	TR Bot	 Almost 13 million Chinese students sit gruelling university entrance exams - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
[08:14]	TR News	OpenKuBSD design document https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2023-06-06-openkubsd-design.html
[08:14]	TR Bot	 Solene'% : OpenKuBSD design document
[08:17]	TR News	RMS et al have arrived. Visible in BBB.
[08:18]		*darwin has quit (connection closed)
[08:18]	TR News	 (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi 
[08:18]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Gemini Articles of Interest
[08:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[08:20]	TR News	It Was All in Vain: Edward Snowdens Sacrifice 10 Years On https://original.antiwar.com/patrick_eddington/2023/06/06/it-was-all-in-vain-edward-snowdens-sacrifice-10-years-on/
[08:20]	TR Bot	 It Was All in Vain: Edward Snowden's Sacrifice 10 Years On - Antiwar.com Original
[08:20]	TR News	KeePass Update Patches Vulnerability Exposing Master Password https://www.securityweek.com/keepass-update-patches-vulnerability-exposing-master-password/
[08:20]	TR Bot	Update Patches Vulnerability Exposing Master Password - SecurityWeek
[08:22]	TR News	HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI BS BS BS https://www.securityweek.com/antchain-intel-create-new-privacy-preserving-computing-platform-for-ai-training/ privacy something something HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI keyword stuffing
[08:22]	TR Bot	Intel Create New Privacy-Preserving Computing Platform for AI Training - SecurityWeek
[08:23]	TR News	Macron attacked millions, still not published. The KING can do anything he wants, later tell us his opposition is just "Russia" and "Putin". https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/world/europe/france-pension-plan-protests.html
[08:23]	TR Bot	 French Pension Plan Protests Erupt Again - The New York Times
[08:24]	TR News	France unions stage potentially last nation-wide protests against pension reforms https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/06/france-unions-stage-potentially-last-nation-wide-protests-against-pension-reforms/
[08:24]	TR Bot	 France unions stage potentially last nation-wide protests against pension reforms - JURIST - News
[08:26]	TR News	Murdoch's media apparatus bringing back a Tiger? https://nypost.com/2023/06/07/tiger-woods-son-charlie-dominates-in-junior-golf-tournament/ now bad enough yet? What next? Cosby? https://people.com/sports/tiger-woods-rebuilt-his-entire-life-after-2009-sex-scandal/
[08:26]	TR Bot	 Tiger Woods' son Charlie dominates in junior golf tournament
[08:26]	TR Bot	 Tiger Woods 'Rebuilt' His Life After 2009 Sex Scandal: 'Better Person and a Much Better Dad'
[08:28]	TR News	"New additions or modifications to the website will be listed here. Stay tuned! You can also subscribe to our RSS Feed" https://stallmansupport.org/updates.html
[08:28]	TR Bot	 Updates | Stallman Support
[08:30]	TR News	Capitalism in action. Workers cannot even afford the places they sleep in. https://qz.com/singapore-will-shut-down-its-oldest-and-only-racecourse-1850509437
[08:30]	TR Bot	 Singapore will build homes on Singapore Turf Club land in 2027
[08:31]	TR News	Japan plans $107bn of hydrogen investments under strategy revision https://www.h2-view.com/story/japan-plans-107bn-of-hydrogen-investments-under-strategy-revision/
[08:31]	TR Bot	 Japan plans $107bn of hydrogen investments under strategy revision
[08:32]		*techuser (~techuser@j7ttb3ujrsenq.irc) has joined #techrights
[08:32]	TR News	Highly inefficient chips with back doors. 1990s mindset. https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/06/06/up-squared-i12-compact-alder-lake-p-single-board-computer/
[08:32]	TR Bot	 UP Squared i12 is a compact Alder Lake-P single board computer - CNX Software
[08:33]	TR News	Seems like unlabeled marketing spam at CNX today https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/06/06/nexdock-xl-15-6-inch-touchscreen-laptop-shell-for-smartphones-supports-wireless-charging/
[08:33]	TR Bot	 NexDock XL 15.6-inch touchscreen laptop shell for smartphones supports wireless charging - CNX Software
[08:34]	TR News	Seems FSF got it wrong and asserted UTC/GMT is +2 compared to Pisa. Rather than CET. RMS talk in 26 mins.
[08:38]	TR News	In 2015-2019 (Average) 9,747 People Died in England and Wales in Week 21. That Grew to 11,111 This Year. Its a 14% Increase! https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/06/06/a-14-percent-increase-in-deaths/
[08:38]	TR Bot	Blog Archive In 2015-2019 (Average) 9,747 People Died in England and Wales in Week 21. That Grew to 11,111 This Year. Its a 14% Increase!
[08:39]	TR News	SMART! https://qz.com/ford-is-recalling-125-000-hybrid-suvs-and-pickup-trucks-1850511167
[08:39]	TR Bot	 Ford is recalling 125,000 hybrid SUVs and pickup trucks
[08:39]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: vewy vewy smawwwt
[08:39]	schestowitz[TR]	boeing, except with 4 wheels on the ground
[08:40]	schestowitz[TR]	no QA
[08:40]	schestowitz[TR]	cuttinhg corners
[08:40]	schestowitz[TR]	"MEET TARGETS"
[08:40]	schestowitz[TR]	add MOAR computers
[08:41]	mjg59_	UTC *is* 2 hours behind Pisa at the moment
[08:41]	mjg59_	BST is only 1 hour behind
[08:42]	mjg59_	Pisa is on CEST, not CET
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR]	have they put a microprocessor in each wheel yet?
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR]	how about in the bonnet?
[08:43]	TR News	RMS has now arrived, with mask on., visible in BBB
[08:43]	mjg59_	Given tyre pressure sensors, yes?
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	the talk seems an hour late, it's nearly 9am GMT :-)
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	Techrights will wait for the file, we can add some audience, we hope
[08:48]	mjg59_	It's not nearly 9AM GMT. It's nearly 9AM BST. It's 7:48 GMT right now.
[08:48]	mjg59_	How the fuck do you not know your own timezone
[08:51]	mjg59_	You know who thought GMT was whatever timezone London was on? Microsoft.
[08:51]	mjg59_	Fucking Outlook insisting that GMT was London time. For years.
[08:51]	mjg59_	Only way to *actually* get GMT was to set the timezone to Iceland
[08:52]	mjg59_	Which, technically not GMT, just always equivalent
[08:53]	TR News	 (NEW): OpenGL 3.1 is Now Available in Asahi Linux, Boosting Graphics Performance http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/OpenGL_3_1_is_Now_Available_in_Asahi_Linux_Boosting_Graphics_Pe.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/OpenGL_3_1_is_Now_Available_in_Asahi_Linux_Boosting_Graphics_Pe.gmi 
[08:53]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines OpenGL 3.1 is Now Available in Asahi Linux, Boosting Graphics Performance
[08:54]	bnchs	hi
[08:56]	TR News	NOW LIVE: Working for the Public Universities, Software and Freedom - a Talk by Richard Stallman at Universit di Pisa (Italy) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/07/rms-italy-now-live/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/07/rms-italy-now-live/
[08:56]	TR Bot	 NOW LIVE: Working for the Public Universities, Software and Freedom a Talk by Richard Stallman at Universit di Pisa (Italy) | Techrights
[08:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[08:59]	TR News	 (NEW): NOW LIVE: Working for the Public Universities, Software and Freedom - a Talk by Richard Stallman at Universit di Pisa (Italy) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/NOW_LIVE_Working_for_the_Public_Universities_Software_and_Freed.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/NOW_LIVE_Working_for_the_Public_Universities_Software_and_Free
[08:59]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines NOW LIVE: Working for the Public Universities, Software and Freedom - a Talk by Richard Stallman at Universit di Pisa (Italy)
● Jun 07
[09:00]	schestowitz[TR]	hi, bnchs 
[09:00]	schestowitz[TR]	live talk
[09:02]	TR News	What happens if the SEC's Coinbase lawsuit lands at the Supreme Court? https://qz.com/what-happens-if-the-secs-coinbase-lawsuit-lands-at-the-1850510296
[09:02]	TR Bot	 What happens if Coinbase takes the SEC to the Supreme Court?
[09:02]	TR News	The SEC: Only OUR OWN Ponzi scheme is permitted, not anyone else's https://qz.com/the-sec-is-finally-making-good-on-its-threats-to-rein-i-1850509811
[09:02]	TR Bot	 The SEC is suing crypto's big fish: Coinbase and Binance
[09:04]	TR News	"Rustls is a bitch to work with" gemini://gemini.hitchhiker-linux.org/gemlog/dory_progress_and_misfin_thoughts.gmi
[09:04]	TR News	India's worst train crash in 20 years shows how its railways mis-spent safety funds https://qz.com/indian-railways-was-mis-spending-ignoring-safety-1850509202
[09:04]	TR Bot	 Indian Railways has been mis-spending funds, ignoring safety
[09:06]	TR News	All this extra complexity only jeopardises privacy and security https://cloudnativenow.com/features/securing-cloud-native-data-in-transit/
[09:06]	TR Bot	 Securing Cloud-Native Data in Transit - Cloud Native Now
[09:07]	mjg59_	Oh no TLS will jeopardise privacy and security
[09:09]	TR News	The same EC that helped EPO and patent profiteers break the law, violate constitutions, to the detriment of "EU interests on global stage" with the insane Unified Patent Court https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/IP_23_3046
[09:09]	TR Bot	 Press corner | European Commission
[09:10]	psydruid	is it just me or is the audio quality on the live stream not that great?
[09:10]	TR News	While at the same time attacking all Belgium SMEs by unlawfully bringing Unified Patent Court into force https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/IP_23_3058
[09:10]	TR Bot	 Press corner | European Commission
[09:11]	TR News	Agriculture Ministry plans supermarket closures on Sundays https://eng.lsm.lv/article/economy/economy/07.06.2023-agriculture-ministry-plans-supermarket-closures-on-sundays.a511739/ people won't put up with this s---
[09:11]	TR Bot	 Agriculture Ministry plans supermarket closures on Sundays / Article
[09:12]	TR News	RMS talks about his lesser visible medical conditions today, e.g. diabetes
[09:12]	schestowitz[TR]	psydruid: yes, not too good
[09:12]	schestowitz[TR]	and you hear RMS mumbling witthe mic on while the host speaks in Italiano
[09:14]	TR News	Agriculture Minister: no reason to declare dairy sector emergency https://eng.lsm.lv/article/economy/economy/06.06.2023-agriculture-minister-no-reason-to-declare-dairy-sector-emergency.a511674/
[09:14]	TR Bot	 Agriculture Minister: no reason to declare dairy sector emergency / Article
[09:14]	schestowitz[TR]	psydruid: i just listen
[09:14]	schestowitz[TR]	i think he has some slides
[09:14]	schestowitz[TR]	but not essential
[09:15]	schestowitz[TR]	he talks about spyphones now
[09:15]	schestowitz[TR]	he calls them snoopphones now
[09:15]	schestowitz[TR]	that's new, I think
[09:15]	schestowitz[TR]	no, they are not even convenience
[09:15]	schestowitz[TR]	they distract
[09:15]	schestowitz[TR]	they annoy
[09:15]	schestowitz[TR]	but users never try weaning themselves off
[09:16]	schestowitz[TR]	now he mocks gulagboy
[09:16]	schestowitz[TR]	"secuerity foer the company's power"
[09:16]	schestowitz[TR]	that's gulagboy
[09:16]	schestowitz[TR]	"secuerity foer the company's power"-RMS
[09:16]	starstreak	<mjg59_> How the fuck do you not know your own timezone
[09:17]	starstreak	because he is a team of ghost writers
[09:17]	schestowitz[TR]	"not the same thing the kind of security users might wish for"
[09:17]	schestowitz[TR]	hits the nail
[09:17]	schestowitz[TR]	he nails gulagboy
[09:17]	schestowitz[TR]	no wonder gulagbopy melts down
[09:17]	schestowitz[TR]	now a snoophone interrupts his talk
[09:17]	psydruid	the snoopphone will eventually go away or become unimportant
[09:17]	schestowitz[TR]	some people don't switch them off
[09:18]	schestowitz[TR]	psydruid: "designed to be good for people"
[09:18]	schestowitz[TR]	-RMS
[09:18]	schestowitz[TR]	"not trae\att them weell"
[09:18]	psydruid	just like Windows is going away
[09:18]	schestowitz[TR]	it's just ruining productiivity
[09:18]	psydruid	it's going to be some minor niche
[09:18]	schestowitz[TR]	peeople not using proper computers
[09:18]	schestowitz[TR]	and instead TRY to type on snoophone
[09:18]	psydruid	my uncle has an Apple snoopphone
[09:18]	schestowitz[TR]	we don't know what comes next
[09:18]	psydruid	and he thinks it's useless
[09:18]	schestowitz[TR]	not some $35000 iMask
[09:18]	psydruid	we do
[09:18]	schestowitz[TR]	from Apple
[09:18]	schestowitz[TR]	*$3,500
[09:19]	starstreak	the iMask is awesome
[09:19]	psydruid	phones will be more like PDAs again
[09:19]	schestowitz[TR]	starstreak: you use it?
[09:19]	schestowitz[TR]	they sell it in canada?
[09:19]	psydruid	running free software from the firmware up
[09:19]	schestowitz[TR]	if you don't use it
[09:19]	schestowitz[TR]	then you rely on marketing
[09:19]	starstreak	lol no
[09:19]	schestowitz[TR]	not real experience
[09:19]	psydruid	that's obviously not what these companies want
[09:19]	starstreak	i cant afford that shit
[09:19]	schestowitz[TR]	itttttt will be without support ina   few years
[09:19]	schestowitz[TR]	like the FB ones
[09:19]	schestowitz[TR]	"metaverse"
[09:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[09:20]	psydruid	my snoopphones were all "gifted" to me, like trojan horses
[09:20]	TR News	Latvia ranks low in EU for social protection spending https://eng.lsm.lv/article/society/society/06.06.2023-latvia-ranks-low-in-eu-for-social-protection-spending.a511615/
[09:20]	TR Bot	 Latvia ranks low in EU for social protection spending / Article
[09:20]	techuser	Same for me: a few gifts, then I realized something is really wrong.
[09:20]	techuser	Now I don't want another one.
[09:21]	psydruid	but I don't do anything with them and try to keep an equivalent application running on my laptop
[09:21]	techuser	I just want a device that works for a few decades correctly.
[09:21]	starstreak	a real metaverse would be cool but i wouldn't want facebook to be in control of that
[09:21]	psydruid	so the snoopphone is only for very few use cases
[09:21]	schestowitz[TR]	starstreak: who will manage it
[09:21]	schestowitz[TR]	federation?
[09:22]	schestowitz[TR]	psydruid: like?
[09:22]	psydruid	and hopefully a new pinephone(-like) device will become usable over time
[09:22]	starstreak	federation sounds good
[09:22]	schestowitz[TR]	who will pay the bills?
[09:22]	schestowitz[TR]	you can make calls with 2g
[09:22]	schestowitz[TR]	or landline
[09:22]	psydruid	no one has a landline anymore
[09:22]	schestowitz[TR]	you rarely have an urgent email
[09:22]	schestowitz[TR]	and sms works ok on old devices
[09:23]	schestowitz[TR]	psydruid: we have 2
[09:23]	psydruid	no one here does
[09:23]	schestowitz[TR]	:(
[09:23]	schestowitz[TR]	bad thing
[09:23]	schestowitz[TR]	so they compel people to have RFIDs
[09:23]	schestowitz[TR]	or have no contact #
[09:23]	psydruid	it wasn't used enough to keep it
[09:23]	psydruid	around
[09:24]	psydruid	for private use at least
[09:24]	schestowitz[TR]	not good
[09:25]	schestowitz[TR]	sometimes there are fallback contact options
[09:25]	schestowitz[TR]	but not for voice
[09:25]	schestowitz[TR]	unless you give a SIP address
[09:25]	schestowitz[TR]	and get a blank stare
[09:25]	schestowitz[TR]	now he blsts microsoft crap
[09:26]	schestowitz[TR]	like chatgpt
[09:26]	schestowitz[TR]	HEY HI
[09:26]	psydruid	you can still get a fixed number
[09:26]	schestowitz[TR]	at least RMS blasts the BS
[09:26]	psydruid	but no one uses it
[09:26]	schestowitz[TR]	that gulagboy promoted
[09:27]	schestowitz[TR]	l;ol truck
[09:27]	schestowitz[TR]	blame ballmer
[09:27]	schestowitz[TR]	truck in the background (noise)
[09:27]	psydruid	and it's part of your internet subscription
[09:27]	psydruid	so it's all VOIP traffic anyway
[09:27]	mjg59_	Man if only I'd been consistent in arguing for security functionality that's 100% under the control of the user oh wait I have been
[09:27]	schestowitz[TR]	i see
[09:27]	schestowitz[TR]	i know it's voip
[09:27]	schestowitz[TR]	but it emulates the real thing
[09:27]	schestowitz[TR]	so better than nothing
[09:27]	schestowitz[TR]	as they phase out copper-lines
[09:28]	mjg59_	Relying on 2G makes it trivial to intercept your calls and break your privacy
[09:28]	psydruid	I would rather just get a SIP number
[09:28]	mjg59_	You want at least LTE to have reasonable privacy over the cellular network
[09:28]	schestowitz[TR]	he says shitGPT is not HEY HI
[09:28]	schestowitz[TR]	and it's not
[09:28]	schestowitz[TR]	it's just some lang model
[09:29]	schestowitz[TR]	and chain of words
[09:29]	schestowitz[TR]	he gets it
[09:29]	schestowitz[TR]	he did work with mit hey hi lab for a while
[09:29]	schestowitz[TR]	psydruid: you can
[09:29]	schestowitz[TR]	i use mumble with everyone
[09:29]	schestowitz[TR]	doesn't cost a thing
[09:29]	schestowitz[TR]	not spied on
[09:29]	schestowitz[TR]	at least at my end
[09:29]	schestowitz[TR]	or the host (mine)
[09:30]	starstreak	i use matrix/element
[09:30]	psydruid	so do I
[09:30]	psydruid	although here I am using XMPP
[09:30]	TR News	RMS says "anti-social media". Nice!
[09:31]	TR News	"Fascist disinformation... it's promoting fascism all around the world... there are millions of people who do this" -RMS on social control media
[09:32]	schestowitz[TR]	the rms talk is interesting as it's new and unique
[09:32]	schestowitz[TR]	esp. internet, ey hi  (not), and phone crap
[09:32]	schestowitz[TR]	not the old material
[09:32]	TR News	Drug treatment, wildfire response and new jobs: Oregon Democrats cite bills at risk amid GOP walkout https://federalnewsnetwork.com/government-news/2023/06/democrats-lives-could-be-lost-due-to-republican-walkout-in-oregon-legislature/
[09:33]	TR Bot	 Drug treatment, wildfire response and new jobs: Oregon Democrats cite bills at risk amid GOP walkout | Federal News Network
[09:34]	TR News	Microsoft proprietary compiler controlled by the NSA et al. Bad, bad idea. https://www.r-bloggers.com/2023/06/moving-from-bookdown-to-quarto-and-the-corresponding-github-actions-changes/
[09:34]	TR Bot	from bookdown to Quarto (and the corresponding GitHub Actions changes) | R-bloggers
[09:35]	TR News	RMS still says "pers". Not bullied by sociopaths into fiction.
[09:35]	psydruid	I hope he is also less naive as to what Microsoft is up to
[09:36]	schestowitz[TR]	RMS?
[09:36]	schestowitz[TR]	he is too soft on them in recent years
[09:36]	schestowitz[TR]	based on private emails and group emails
[09:36]	schestowitz[TR]	but devil's advocate says,
[09:36]	psydruid	that experience should have taught him something
[09:36]	schestowitz[TR]	1. he didn't start gnu to battle microsoftt
[09:36]	schestowitz[TR]	2. microsoft is circling down the drain
[09:37]	schestowitz[TR]	3. there are yet more challenges ahead, not just in old PCs
[09:37]	schestowitz[TR]	ICBM is also taking out a knife against him
[09:37]	schestowitz[TR]	and rallies nuts who fantasise about stabbing colleagues
[09:37]	schestowitz[TR]	not just cantrell
[09:37]	schestowitz[TR]	also gulagboy
[09:37]	schestowitz[TR]	good thing he gets no physical access to people
[09:38]	schestowitz[TR]	hiding in a cave with buffy
[09:38]	psydruid	there is an entire "ecosystem" around taking him out of the limelight
[09:38]	schestowitz[TR]	that too
[09:38]	schestowitz[TR]	so far the talk of rms is good
[09:38]	schestowitz[TR]	and he didn't memorise anything
[09:38]		*schestowitz[TR] checks videos
[09:38]	schestowitz[TR]	no slides
[09:38]	schestowitz[TR]	handwritten notes, i think
[09:38]	schestowitz[TR]	he can practice in train/plane
[09:39]	psydruid	is the talk going to take 3 hours?
[09:39]	TR News	Announcing Istio 1.17.3 https://istio.io/latest/news/releases/1.17.x/announcing-1.17.3/
[09:39]	TR Bot	 Istio / Announcing Istio 1.17.3
[09:39]	schestowitz[TR]	psydruid: no
[09:40]	schestowitz[TR]	ample space for a and q
[09:40]	schestowitz[TR]	q and a, sorry
[09:40]	schestowitz[TR]	bendali told me an hour ago he's upload the video file to ...
[09:40]	psydruid	the answers will lead to more questions
[09:40]	schestowitz[TR]	http://audio-video.gnu.org/video/#2023
[09:40]	TR Bot	 Audio/Video - GNU Project - Free-Software Foundation
[09:41]	schestowitz[TR]	*he'd
[09:41]	schestowitz[TR]	yeah, q and a adjecent
[09:41]	schestowitz[TR]	i also do some exercise
[09:41]	schestowitz[TR]	can't just sit all day lonng
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[09:44]	schestowitz[TR]	many geeks end up obese with ED or twigs with ED
[09:44]	schestowitz[TR]	and before you know it the word "female" offends them deeply
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[09:46]	schestowitz[TR]	rms keeps saying neural networks
[09:46]	schestowitz[TR]	it's far from the only methodology
[09:46]	schestowitz[TR]	better say machine learning
[09:46]	schestowitz[TR]	generically
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[09:47]	schestowitz[TR]	might be a miconception on NN
[09:47]	schestowitz[TR]	not net neutrality
[09:47]	schestowitz[TR]	but ANN
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[09:47]	schestowitz[TR]	you can get classification trees some other ways
[09:47]	schestowitz[TR]	he now moans about HEY HI being BS
[09:48]	schestowitz[TR]	and folks calling  things HEY HI
[09:48]	schestowitz[TR]	and the alarmist BS
[09:48]	schestowitz[TR]	from this guy: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html
[09:48]	TR Bot	 Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times
[09:48]	schestowitz[TR]	the guy who traffics pedo money to RMS employer/home
[09:50]	TR News	Libre: Open-source Manufacturing Execution and Performance monitoring Solution https://medevel.com/libre-manufacturing/
[09:50]	TR Bot	 Libre: Open-source Manufacturing Execution and Performance monitoring Solution
[09:50]	TR News	mintCast 413.5 Git Some! https://mintcast.org/413-5-git-some/
[09:50]	TR Bot	 413.5 Git Some! mintCast
[09:51]	schestowitz[TR]	he cites chmosky now
[09:51]	schestowitz[TR]	and the coauthor
[09:51]	schestowitz[TR]	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent
[09:51]	TR Bot	 Manufacturing Consent - Wikipedia
[09:52]	schestowitz[TR]	Herman died 6 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_S._Herman
[09:52]	TR Bot	 Edward S. Herman - Wikipedia
[09:52]	schestowitz[TR]	aged 92
[09:52]	schestowitz[TR]	his first and second wives died before him
[09:53]	schestowitz[TR]	oh, wait
[09:53]	schestowitz[TR]	ge  married at age 90
[09:53]	schestowitz[TR]	2 years after his wife died
[09:53]	schestowitz[TR]	the second wife might still be alive
[09:53]	schestowitz[TR]	he married a year after ww2 ended
[09:53]	schestowitz[TR]	till she died
[09:54]	schestowitz[TR]	so the talk is 50 mins long
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[09:54]	schestowitz[TR]	or less 
[09:55]	schestowitz[TR]	now the Q and A
[09:55]	schestowitz[TR]	the question is a bit weird
[09:55]	schestowitz[TR]	RMS is trying to make sense of it
[09:55]	schestowitz[TR]	can't blame him
[09:56]	schestowitz[TR]	ah, ok, so makes distinction 
[09:57]	schestowitz[TR]	betwqeen HEY HI
[09:57]	schestowitz[TR]	and ML
[09:57]	schestowitz[TR]	chitGPT, he says, is NOT "hey hi"
[09:57]	schestowitz[TR]	shittyGPT is just  a chain
[09:57]	schestowitz[TR]	with some rules applied to the chaining
[09:57]	schestowitz[TR]	and not innovative
[09:57]	schestowitz[TR]	just a waste of electricity
[09:57]	schestowitz[TR]	because azure failed
[09:58]	schestowitz[TR]	and they were conceerned all those machjines were idle
[09:58]	schestowitz[TR]	no clients
[09:58]	schestowitz[TR]	so they threw worthless 'open'HEY HI stuff on them
[09:58]	schestowitz[TR]	then spend endless dollars bribing the media to pretend to be excited
[09:58]	schestowitz[TR]	so the people try this Chitty(TM) thing
[09:59]	techuser	Why not AI? Isn't AI about a machine trying to imitate intelligence? E.g. we have had AI for some video games long ago, now having AI for writing text, etc.
[09:59]	schestowitz[TR]	it's a b it like this
[09:59]	schestowitz[TR]	first, the term is abused
[09:59]	schestowitz[TR]	what a word means today is nnot what it meant before
[09:59]	schestowitz[TR]	"gay" is a famous example
[09:59]	schestowitz[TR]	in the case of HEY HUI, the term is very old
[09:59]	schestowitz[TR]	and preytends modern computing
[09:59]	schestowitz[TR]	*predates
● Jun 07
[10:00]	schestowitz[TR]	machine leaning is a more conrete term
[10:00]	schestowitz[TR]	because it says how you achieve this "intelligence"
[10:00]	schestowitz[TR]	same with turing machine
[10:00]	schestowitz[TR]	you don't need a computer
[10:00]	schestowitz[TR]	you can do it with pen and paper
[10:00]	schestowitz[TR]	or a bunch of cardboard boxes
[10:00]	schestowitz[TR]	or old style mechanics
[10:01]	TR News	Free Market Mythology Is a Freedom-Killer https://neritam.wordpress.com/2023/06/06/free-market-mythology-is-a-freedom-killer/
[10:01]	TR Bot	 Free Market Mythology Is a Freedom-Killer neritam
[10:01]	schestowitz[TR]	RMS is 70 and explains these things reasonably well
[10:02]	schestowitz[TR]	he grew up (since teens) next door to an important group
[10:02]	schestowitz[TR]	the mit hey hi lab
[10:02]	schestowitz[TR]	and its precursor
[10:02]	schestowitz[TR]	so he obv. speaks to people like minksy
[10:02]	schestowitz[TR]	not people who work for trash rags like CNET!
[10:02]	schestowitz[TR]	or drpizza raping kids while copy-pasting for Bill Gates
[10:04]	TR News	Southern Poverty Law Center used to be very good or even OK before it became an Islamist hate group. Be wary, FSF and EFF. https://nypost.com/2023/06/07/southern-poverty-law-center-adds-parental-rights-advocates-to-hate-map/
[10:04]	TR Bot	 Southern Poverty Law Center adds parental rights advocates to Hate Map
[10:06]	TR News	Murdoch's nypost has also just shitposted some spam for Microsoft, propping up fiction about the potency of shitGPT
[10:07]	TR News	Why is this page empty?? What is going on? Did something get removed? https://www.supergoodcode.com/benchmarks/
[10:07]	TR Bot	 Benchmarks Mike Blumenkrantz Super. Good. Code.
[10:08]	TR News	In the Mind of Marie: A Haunting Encounter in the Gardens of Versailles (1913) https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/an-adventure
[10:08]	TR Bot	 In the Mind of Marie: A Haunting Encounter in the Gardens of Versailles (1913) The Public Domain Review
[10:10]	TR News	First (?) Libel-by-AI (ChatGPT) Lawsuit Filed https://reason.com/volokh/2023/06/06/first-ai-libel-lawsuit-filed/
[10:10]	TR Bot	 First (?) Libel-by-AI (ChatGPT) Lawsuit Filed
[10:11]	TR News	It had to happen. Just a matter of time. Microsoft making libel and plagiarism machines, then MARKETS them as INTELLIGENT!
[10:12]	TR News	"Every statement of fact in the summary [provided by ChatGPT] pertaining to [plaintiff] Walters is false." https://reason.com/volokh/2023/06/06/first-ai-libel-lawsuit-filed/
[10:13]	TR News	Firefox Developer Experience: Firefox WebDriver Newsletter 114 https://fxdx.dev/firefox-webdriver-newsletter-114/
[10:13]	TR Bot	 Firefox WebDriver Newsletter 114 Firefox Developer Experience
[10:14]	TR News	IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, June 06, 2023 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/07/irc-log-060623/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/07/irc-log-060623/
[10:14]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, June 06, 2023 | Techrights
[10:18]	TR News	Express Returns Servers HTML Error Page Instead of res.json Error Message https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/express-returns-servers-html-error-page-instead-of-res-json-error-message/
[10:18]	TR Bot	 Express Returns Servers HTML Error Page Instead of res.json Error Message - GeeksforGeeks
[10:19]	TR News	IBM-bribed site as megaphone of IBM-BRIBED 'analyst'... does corruption of "media" get any worse than this??? https://www.itjungle.com/2023/06/07/ibm-i-delivers-sizable-benefits-forrester-consulting-reports/
[10:19]	TR Bot	 IBM i Delivers Sizable Benefits, Forrester Consulting Reports - IT Jungle
[10:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[10:43]	psydruid	https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/6/23736289/microsoft-bing-chrome-search-fake-ai-chatbot
[10:43]	TR Bot	 Microsoft has no shame: Bing spit on my Chrome search with a fake AI answer - The Verge
[10:43]	psydruid	lol
[10:43]	psydruid	HEY HI
[10:50]	bnchs	psydruid: m$ is digging themselves into a hole
[10:50]	bnchs	TRUST US, THIS HEY HI IS VERY TRUTHFUL
[10:52]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/2305166
[10:52]	TR Bot	 WHOOPSIE
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● Jun 07
[11:00]	bnchs	of course "microsoft rewards"
[11:00]	bnchs	call it what it is, microsoft bribery
[11:01]	bnchs	their search engine is so shit they have to bribe their users to use it
[11:03]	bnchs	"Earn 5 points per search when you search with Microsoft Bing on PC and mobile, and up to 20 points per day when searching in Microsoft Edge"
[11:03]	bnchs	MICROSOFT BRIBERY
[11:07]	psydruid	bnchs, they're the new Digital Equipment Corporation, albeit a weak version of it technologically
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[11:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
● Jun 07
[12:14]	TR News	Nationwide protests against pension reform see lowest turnout since January https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230606-%F0%9F%94%B4-live-france-faces-14th-day-of-nationwide-protests-against-pension-reform
[12:14]	TR Bot	 Nationwide protests against pension reform see lowest turnout since January
[12:17]	TR News	'Night Fury': Documents Detail DHS Project to Give 'Risk Scores' to Social Media Users https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/dy33vx/night-fury-documents-detail-dhs-project-to-give-risk-scores-to-social-media-users
[12:17]	TR Bot	 'Night Fury': Documents Detail DHS Project to Give 'Risk Scores' to Social Media Users
[12:18]	TR News	That's NOT "HEY HI" https://qz.com/professional-soccer-players-are-using-ai-to-filter-out-1850510201
[12:18]	TR Bot	 Professional soccer players are using AI avoid racist abuse
[12:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[12:22]	TR News	Now Fully Normalized: Sportswashing the Bonesaw with Golf https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/06/06/now-fully-normalized-sportswashing-the-bonesaw-with-golf/
[12:22]	TR Bot	 Now Fully Normalized: Sportswashing the Bonesaw with Golf - emptywheel
[12:23]	TR News	Nominations now open for NRO NC election 2023 https://blog.apnic.net/2023/06/07/nominations-now-open-for-nro-nc-election-2023/
[12:23]	TR Bot	 Nominations now open for NRO NC election 2023 | APNIC Blog
[12:23]	TR News	IPv6: A retrospective look https://blog.apnic.net/2023/06/07/ipv6-a-retrospective-look/
[12:23]	TR Bot	 IPv6: A retrospective look | APNIC Blog
[12:23]	schestowitz[TR]	bnchs: it paid off 
[12:23]	schestowitz[TR]	bing is now a very established player
[12:23]	schestowitz[TR]	ignore all the bing layoffs this yeaer
[12:23]	schestowitz[TR]	phanes insists layoffs are never a sign of faolure
[12:24]	bnchs	lol
[12:24]	schestowitz[TR]	and they throw bing under the bug because it's doing so well
[12:24]	bnchs	how is it still established
[12:24]	schestowitz[TR]	microsoft: WHO NEED SEARCH ANYWAY!!
[12:24]	schestowitz[TR]	"HEY HI"
[12:24]	bnchs	when they're still bribing their users to use it
[12:24]	bnchs	bribing their users to use edge
[12:24]	schestowitz[TR]	"talk to a bot"
[12:24]	schestowitz[TR]	edgee had many layoffs too
[12:24]	schestowitz[TR]	inc. this year
[12:24]	schestowitz[TR]	edge is dying
[12:24]	schestowitz[TR]	but they won't admit it
[12:24]	bnchs	lol
[12:24]	TR News	Event Wrap: RIPE 86 https://blog.apnic.net/2023/06/06/event-wrap-ripe-86/
[12:25]	TR Bot	 Event Wrap: RIPE 86 | APNIC Blog
[12:25]	TR News	Event Wrap: BKNIX Peering Forum 2023 and ThaiNOG 5 https://blog.apnic.net/2023/06/06/event-wrap-bknix-peering-forum-2023-and-thainog-5/
[12:25]	bnchs	"no, we're better than chrome, pls use it"
[12:25]	TR Bot	 Event Wrap: BKNIX Peering Forum 2023 and ThaiNOG 5 | APNIC Blog
[12:25]	bnchs	"look, i'll pay you in uhh 20 MICROSOFT POINTS
[12:25]	bnchs	if you use it"
[12:25]	bnchs	"please :("
[12:27]	psydruid	you gotta fight for your right to promote freedom
[12:27]	psydruid	as a male or a female
[12:27]	schestowitz[TR]	!15 years AGO cnet CALLED IT BRIBE
[12:27]	schestowitz[TR]	"BING WAS NOT THERE IN 2008"
[12:27]	schestowitz[TR]	"DECISION ENGINE!!"
[12:27]	schestowitz[TR]	not they pull it off again
[12:27]	schestowitz[TR]	but call it "HEY HI"
[12:27]	schestowitz[TR]	it's not even HEY HI
[12:27]	schestowitz[TR]	it's LLM 
[12:28]	schestowitz[TR]	sometimes different 
[12:28]	schestowitz[TR]	and rather useless
[12:28]	schestowitz[TR]	*something different
[12:28]	schestowitz[TR]	so they throw lots of money at bribed press
[12:28]	schestowitz[TR]	to worship it like it is something it is not
[12:28]	schestowitz[TR]	like it will replace doctors and lawyers
[12:28]	schestowitz[TR]	bribed media sold this lie
[12:29]	schestowitz[TR]	now there are lawsuits for libel too
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[12:29]	psydruid	HEY HI SURGERY
[12:29]	psydruid	GO GO GADGET GO
[12:29]	TR News	Various little fixes https://bkhome.org/news/202306/various-little-fixes.html
[12:29]	TR Bot	 Various little fixes
[12:30]	schestowitz[TR]	they could say,
[12:30]	schestowitz[TR]	here, this is this gimmick
[12:30]	schestowitz[TR]	it LOOKS like it talks back at your keywords
[12:31]	schestowitz[TR]	but it does not know what it's printing
[12:31]	schestowitz[TR]	nor does it understand you
[12:31]	schestowitz[TR]	use at your own risk
[12:31]	schestowitz[TR]	it's a toy
[12:31]	schestowitz[TR]	but no...
[12:31]	schestowitz[TR]	they marketed this as a potent revolution
[12:31]	bnchs	search firefox on google: get results about firefox
[12:31]	schestowitz[TR]	that replaces humans
[12:31]	schestowitz[TR]	now they get sued
[12:32]	bnchs	okay never fucking mind
[12:32]	bnchs	their bing input box
[12:32]	bnchs	is BROKEN
[12:32]	bnchs	i backspace and it reinserts "fi"
[12:33]	TR News	If it declares bankruptcy in a few years, good riddance https://www.axios.com/2023/06/06/cnn-chaos-looms
[12:33]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/06/06/cnn-chaos-looms )
[12:34]	bnchs	search chrome on bing: crappy promotion about edge, and some AI thing in the sidebar
[12:34]	bnchs	the bing HEY HI
[12:34]	TR News	Hong Kong pollster axes release of Tiananmen anniversary survey results, citing govt suggestions https://hongkongfp.com/2023/06/06/hong-kong-pollster-axes-release-of-tiananmen-anniversary-survey-results-citing-govt-suggestions/
[12:34]	TR Bot	 Hong Kong pollster axes release of Tiananmen anniversary survey results, citing gov't 'suggestions' - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
[12:34]	bnchs	tells me to open edge browser
[12:34]	schestowitz[TR]	they call it "bing chat"
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR]	while bign  market share collapses
[12:35]	bnchs	i click on it, unsurpisingly it can't
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR]	yeah
[12:35]	bnchs	it tells me to click a button on a non-existant popup
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR]	only if you use malware
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR]	that sends ALL your saved passwords to Microsoft and NSA
[12:35]	schestowitz[TR]	without even asking you
[12:36]	TR News	Why I lit a candle https://hongkongfp.com/2023/06/06/why-i-lit-a-candle/
[12:36]	TR Bot	 Why I lit a candle - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
[12:36]	bnchs	lol
[12:36]	bnchs	also they have THE NEW BING
[12:36]	schestowitz[TR]	what's nerw about it?
[12:36]	schestowitz[TR]	wallpaper?
[12:37]	bnchs	https://www.bing.com/new
[12:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bing
[12:37]	bnchs	the bing HEY HI chat
[12:37]	bnchs	..... open in microsoft edge
[12:37]	schestowitz[TR]	edge is struggling
[12:37]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2023/02/19/microsoft-edge-layoffs/
[12:37]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Lays Off Edge Developers, Edge Market Share Falls, Media Starts Making Noise About Edge Vapourware, and Microsoft Limits Its Overhyped Vapourware to Edge users | Techrights
[12:38]	bnchs	"  Youre one click away from experiencing AI-powered search.  Click Open Microsoft Edge in the window above to proceed."
[12:38]	bnchs	i see literally nothing
[12:38]	TR News	Hong Kong law is clearly stated, John Lee says when asked about arrests over Tiananmen crackdown anniversary https://hongkongfp.com/2023/06/06/hong-kong-law-is-clearly-stated-john-lee-says-when-asked-about-arrests-over-tiananmen-crackdown-anniversary/
[12:38]	TR Bot	 Hong Kong law is 'clearly stated,' John Lee says when asked about arrests over Tiananmen crackdown anniversary - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
[12:38]	TR News	Govt seeks to ban protest song Glory to Hong Kong, including from internet https://hongkongfp.com/2023/06/06/govt-seeks-to-ban-protest-song-glory-to-hong-kong-including-from-internet/
[12:38]	TR Bot	 Gov't seeks to ban protest song 'Glory to Hong Kong', including from internet - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
[12:39]	bnchs	"Your access to the new Bing may be suspended as a result of serious or repeated violations of the New Bing Terms of Use / Microsoft Services Agreement or from usage otherwise determined to be detrimental to the product, to Microsoft, or to the community at large."
[12:39]	bnchs	so if i ask the AI about bill gates and jeffery epstein
[12:39]	bnchs	will i get my access suspended?
[12:40]	bnchs	btw the AI prompts it has are FAKE
[12:40]	bnchs	they're staged and shit, if you even change the prompt a bit
[12:40]	bnchs	it just doesn't work
[12:41]	TR News	Learned to ignore illness that's STILL spreading, numbers still WAAAAAAY below 2019 https://eng.lsm.lv/article/economy/transport/06.06.2023-latvians-resumed-travels-abroad-in-2022-after-pandemic.a511652/
[12:42]	TR Bot	 Latvians resumed travels abroad in 2022 after pandemic / Article
[12:42]	schestowitz[TR]	no, it never worked
[12:42]	schestowitz[TR]	ryan wrote about it months ago
[12:42]	bnchs	yes i know
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR]	it hides everything to do with microsdoft and pedophilia
[12:43]	bnchs	i'm saying they just have staged "AI" prompts
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR]	it's censored by microsoft
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR]	rms said this morning
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR]	that shitGPT is NOT HEY HI
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR]	and that media is lying about iut
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR]	characterising it
[12:43]	schestowitz[TR]	he has worked with the world's HEY HI pioneers for decades at MIT
[12:44]	schestowitz[TR]	they look at this whole thing
[12:44]	schestowitz[TR]	raise a brow
[12:44]	bnchs	hell, RMS even slept at MIT
[12:45]	bnchs	GPT is just a language model, it barely understands what the fuck it's saying
[12:45]	bnchs	it just shits out grammatically correct but factually WRONG text
[12:45]	bnchs	and tricks people
[12:46]	psydruid	this HEY HI fad is their last chance to establish any dominance in a new field
[12:46]	psydruid	and they're failing anyway
[12:46]	psydruid	that's the irony in all of this
[12:47]	bnchs	it's dumb
[12:47]	schestowitz[TR]	their "flasgship" there is not even HEY HI
[12:47]	schestowitz[TR]	but a phony lie
[12:47]	bnchs	i would rather trust a search engine
[12:47]	schestowitz[TR]	then you have games, security
[12:47]	bnchs	than a large language model
[12:47]	schestowitz[TR]	they suck at those too
[12:47]	schestowitz[TR]	they used to say "CLOWN"
[12:47]	bnchs	schestowitz[TR]: lol security
[12:47]	schestowitz[TR]	but Azure has been laying off for 4 years
[12:47]	schestowitz[TR]	they are cutting down
[12:47]	bnchs	their OS gets raped by ransomware a million times
[12:48]	bnchs	their UAC isn't worth shit
[12:48]	schestowitz[TR]	bnchs: don't lauhght
[12:48]	schestowitz[TR]	many fake articles cite microsdoft as security leader
[12:48]	schestowitz[TR]	 e.g. re Guam
[12:48]	schestowitz[TR]	microsoft this and that
[12:48]	schestowitz[TR]	they are ther cause of the breache
[12:48]	schestowitz[TR]	but bribed media invert the naarrative
[12:48]	bnchs	where's that retarded security researcher who worked on Whonix
[12:48]	bnchs	who shilled windows 10 S
[12:48]	schestowitz[TR]	in ukraine also, they pretend micreosoft is needed to help them with securituy
[12:49]	schestowitz[TR]	I am not sure Whonix is still going
[12:49]	schestowitz[TR]	did not hear of new release since about 6 months ago
[12:49]	schestowitz[TR]	it used to be allmostt monthly
[12:49]	schestowitz[TR]	Tails makes them obsolete
[12:49]	schestowitz[TR]	heads is finished
[12:49]	bnchs	it's that guy with the creepy patrick star picture
[12:49]	schestowitz[TR]	it's tails without systemd
[12:50]	TR News	Sterilizing Cats, No Surgery Required https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2023/06/spaying-sterilizing-cat-nonsurgical-injection/674300/
[12:50]	TR Bot	 A High-Tech, Low-Effort Alternative to Spaying Cats - The Atlantic
[12:51]	bnchs	oh of course
[12:51]	bnchs	madaidans insecurities
[12:51]	bnchs	i've forgotten about this dumbass
[12:51]	bnchs	"Use Windows 11 (preferably in S mode and on a Secured-Core PC)"
[12:52]	bnchs	jesus fucking christ he updated it to windows 11
[12:52]	schestowitz[TR]	is he a lead dev?
[12:52]	schestowitz[TR]	or something else?
[12:52]	bnchs	he's a "security researcher"
[12:52]	bnchs	apparently
[12:52]	schestowitz[TR]	aka
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	masterbating money
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	*u
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	liike gulagboy
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	masturbating money
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	endorsed by drpizza et al
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	to push fake secuyrity
[12:53]	bnchs	he recommends grapheneOS
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	aka back doors
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	microsoft is control
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	grapheneOS is usually for chromebooks
[12:53]	schestowitz[TR]	so... don't listen to him
[12:54]	psydruid	what happens if you ask it about Steve Ballmer's groping behaviour
[12:54]	schestowitz[TR]	on security
[12:54]	psydruid	and Rick Allen Jones's arrest for procuring CP
[12:54]	schestowitz[TR]	psydruid: ballmer can grope
[12:54]	schestowitz[TR]	ballmer is rich
[12:54]	schestowitz[TR]	he won't be arrested
[12:54]	schestowitz[TR]	so he is  not missing out
[12:54]	bnchs	schestowitz[TR]: i wouldn't use grapheneOS with daniel micay acting like an asshole
[12:54]	TR News	This Common Artificial Sweetener Can Break Down DNA, Scientists Warn https://www.sciencealert.com/this-common-artificial-sweetener-can-break-down-dna-scientists-warn
[12:54]	TR Bot	Common Artificial Sweetener Can Break Down DNA, Scientists Warn : ScienceAlert
[12:54]	psydruid	and Satya Nadella's military ambitions
[12:55]	TR News	These Companies Kept Silent About 'Forever Chemicals' For Decades https://www.sciencealert.com/these-companies-kept-silent-about-forever-chemicals-for-decades
[12:55]	TR Bot	Companies Kept Silent About 'Forever Chemicals' For Decades : ScienceAlert
[12:55]	schestowitz[TR]	big money
[12:55]	bnchs	"
[12:55]	bnchs	Preferably use a distribution that utilises LibreSSL by default rather than OpenSSL. OpenSSL contains tremendous amounts of totally unnecessary attack surface and follows poor security practices. For example, it still maintains OS/2 and VMS support "
[12:55]	schestowitz[TR]	killing people is BIG money
[12:56]	schestowitz[TR]	in every country
[12:56]	psydruid	nothing based on Android should be used
[12:56]	schestowitz[TR]	there is always demand
[12:56]	bnchs	lol OpenSSL maintains ports to obscure OSes
[12:56]	bnchs	INSECURE INSECURE
[12:56]	schestowitz[TR]	the rich people always want to kill people
[12:56]	schestowitz[TR]	usually but not always in another country
[12:56]	psydruid	you are essentially giving small teams of asshole developers power over your computing experiences with them acting like gatekeepers
[12:57]	bnchs	if this guy is going autistic over OpenSSL being ported to a few other OSes
[12:57]	bnchs	then he should look at WolfSSL
[12:57]	psydruid	I wonder what Bing has to say about Matt GULAG
[12:57]	bnchs	it's even ported to the most OBSCUREST OSes like OS-9/68000
[12:57]	schestowitz[TR]	the genderless peter pan
[12:57]	psydruid	to be sent to the GULAG or not to be sent to the GULAG
[12:58]	schestowitz[TR]	woilfssl is interesting
[12:58]	schestowitz[TR]	i don't like all the people who i know there
[12:58]	psydruid	"Bing, pass me the bong"
[12:58]	schestowitz[TR]	one of them was a regular of ours in irc
[12:58]	schestowitz[TR]	till freenode collapsed
[12:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[12:59]	TR News	Too much money invested in death, not life https://www.defenceweb.co.za/featured/funding-shortfall-means-military-health-patients-face-complications-and-possibly-death/
[12:59]	TR Bot	 Funding shortfall means military health patients face complications and possibly death - defenceWeb
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[13:00]	schestowitz[TR]	he's dutch
[13:00]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe he left the company since
[13:00]	schestowitz[TR]	was concerned about how the pentagon giants were taking over orgs
[13:00]	schestowitz[TR]	and destroying Free software
[13:01]		*schestowitz[TR] in and out, exercise
[13:01]	bnchs	 schestowitz[TR]: have fun :)
[13:01]	schestowitz[TR]	not fun
[13:01]	schestowitz[TR]	but needs to be done
[13:01]	bnchs	i see
[13:02]	TR News	"Solitaire is any tabletop game that can be played by just one person" https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/06/06/diy-marble-solitaire-board-helps-you-solve-the-puzzle/ | Source: Arduino
[13:02]	TR Bot	 DIY marble solitaire board helps you solve the puzzle | Arduino Blog
[13:03]	TR News	This beer pong-playing robot uses sophisticated math to sink shots https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/06/06/this-beer-pong-playing-robot-uses-sophisticated-math-to-sink-shots/
[13:03]	TR Bot	 This beer pong-playing robot uses sophisticated math to sink shots | Arduino Blog
[13:07]	TR News	"In the world of operating systems, there are always loud voices complaining about one operating system or another" https://klarasystems.com/articles/choosing-between-freebsd-and-linux-a-choice-without-os-wars/ | Source: Klara
[13:07]	TR Bot	 Choosing Between FreeBSD and Linux A Choice Without OS Wars
[13:07]	TR News	"In the meantime, I think the core design could be reused and made it easy for users, like we are used to do in OpenBSD." https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2023-06-06-openkubsd-design.html | Source: Data Swamp
[13:07]	TR Bot	 Solene'% : OpenKuBSD design document
[13:08]	TR News	"Jonathan M created Trainbot with a Raspberry Pi Camera." https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/onlytrains-for-fans-of-trains-and-only-trains/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
[13:08]	TR Bot	 OnlyTrains: for fans of trains, and only trains - Raspberry Pi
[13:08]	TR News	Open Access: "But theres another aspect that receives less attention, revealed here by a new paper that looks at how open access articles are used in a particular and important context that of Wikipedia." https://walledculture.org/heres-another-important-reason-why-academics-should-publish-in-open-access-titles-self-interest/ | Source: Walled Culture
[13:08]	TR Bot	reply from server ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/heres-another-important-reason-why-academics-should-publish-in-open-access-titles-self-interest/ )
[13:09]	TR News	Is a Wikipedia volunteers revolt next? Likely. They're wasting lots of their lives fighting against paid corporate shills. AND THEY ARE LOSING, not only their time....
[13:10]	TR News	"The specific reason for her death remains unclear, but in a video recorded before she died" https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/china-mother-suicide-06052023162758.html | Source: RFA
[13:10]	TR Bot	 Grieving mother who lost son kills herself after cyberbullying, official warnings Radio Free Asia
[13:11]	TR News	"US govt now bans TikTok from contractors' work gear" https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/06/us_contractors_tiktok_ban/ | Source: The Register UK
[13:11]	TR Bot	 US government's TikTok ban extended to include contractors The Register
[13:11]	TR News	"Thankfully, this isn't a Buttle/Tuttle mix-up. Just a reminder that no one is ever as unique as they think they are." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2023/06/google-alerts-told-me-im-dead/ | Source: Terence Eden
[13:12]	TR Bot	 Google Alerts told me Im dead Terence Edens Blog
[13:12]	TR News	Espionage-committing Pentagon contractor (aailouts) https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/06/microsoft_fined_20m_for_collecting/ | Source: The Register UK
[13:12]	TR Bot	 Microsoft fined $20M for mishandling kids' data on Xbox The Register
[13:14]	TR News	Police use of PayPal records under fire https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/06/cop_city_paypal/ | US police TOLERATES financial crimes. Depends WHOSE: http://techrights.org/wiki/Crimes_of_Sirius_Open_Source#Police_Gets_Involved
[13:14]	TR Bot	 Police under fire for use of PayPal records in Cop City raid The Register
[13:14]	TR Bot	 Crimes of Sirius Open Source - Techrights
[13:14]	TR News	"It would take much more than a blog to outline all of what we learnt over the next year and more." https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/snowden-revelations-ten-years-on/ | Source: OpenRightsGroup
[13:14]	TR Bot	 Snowden Revelations: Ten Years On | Open Rights Group
[13:14]	TR News	 (NEW): openSUSE Leap 15.5 Releases with KDE Plasma 5.27 LTS, Xfce 4.18, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/openSUSE_Leap_15_5_Releases_with_KDE_Plasma_5_27_LTS_Xfce_4_18_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/openSUSE_Leap_15_5_Releases_with_KDE_Plasma_5_27_LTS_Xfce_4_18_.gmi 
[13:14]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines openSUSE Leap 15.5 Releases with KDE Plasma 5.27 LTS, Xfce 4.18, and More
[13:18]	TR News	U.N. Assistant Secretary-General for Africa Martha Pobee https://adf-magazine.com/2023/06/as-sahel-violence-spreads-coastal-nations-call-for-funding-cooperation/ | Source: ADF
[13:18]	TR Bot	 As Sahel Violence Spreads, Coastal Nations Call for Funding, Cooperation - Africa Defense Forum
[13:18]	TR News	TikTok is a Chinese weapon https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/06/06/tiktok-hong-kong-tracking/ | Source: Digital Music News
[13:18]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/06/06/tiktok-hong-kong-tracking/ )
[13:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[13:20]	TR News	"Now, ten years later, I offer this as a time capsule of what those early months of Snowden were like." https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2023/06/snowden-ten-years-later.html | Source: Bruce Schneier
[13:20]	TR Bot	Ten Years Later - Schneier on Security
[13:20]	TR News	"Releasing Information to News Outlets Without Proper Authority" https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2023/06/04/detroit-police-memo-stop-leaking-to-media/70256347007/ | Source: Digital First Media
[13:20]	TR News	"The competition was apparently scheduled to begin June 8 in the city of Gothenburg." https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-no-sweden-is-not-holding-a-sex-championship/a-65841986 | Source: Deutsche Welle
[13:20]	TR Bot	check: No, Sweden is not holding a 'sex championship' DW 06/07/2023
[13:22]	TR News	Misinformation and HEY HI, which naturally emits nonsense, even when it's not HEY HI but LLM https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/is-it-real-or-made-by-ai-europe-wants-a-label-for-that-as-it-fights-disinformation/articleshow/100785210.cms | Source: India Times
[13:22]	TR Bot	 digital services act: Is it real or made by AI? Europe wants a label for that as it fights disinformation - The Economic Times
[13:22]	TR News	"The government of Hong Kong has sought an injunction to prevent performance and distribution, including online" https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/07/hong_kong_song_ban_injunction/ | Source: The Register UK
[13:22]	TR Bot	 Hong Kong tries to wipe anti-Beijing anthem off the internet The Register
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[13:24]	TR News	"Hundreds gathered in Taiwans capital on Sunday to mark the 34th anniversary of the Tiananmen crackdown" https://hongkongfp.com/2023/06/05/to-care-to-express-our-sorrow-taiwan-hosts-tiananmen-crackdown-remembrance-vigil/ | Source: Hong Kong Free Press
[13:24]	TR Bot	 'To care, to express our sorrow': Taiwan hosts Tiananmen crackdown remembrance vigil - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
[13:24]	TR News	"seditious" https://hongkongfp.com/2023/06/06/hong-kong-police-remove-seditious-tiananmen-crackdown-candle-banner-from-sai-kung-shop/ | Source: Hong Kong Free Press
[13:24]	TR Bot	 Hong Kong police remove 'seditious' Tiananmen crackdown candle banner from Sai Kung shop - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
[13:25]	TR News	Censorship of Censorship (yes) https://reason.com/volokh/2023/06/05/someone-trying-to-vanish-my-article-about-people-trying-to-vanish-articles/ | Source: Reason
[13:25]	TR Bot	 Someone Trying to Vanish My Article About People Trying to Vanish Articles
[13:26]	TR News	tiananmen https://english.elpais.com/international/2023-06-05/china-on-the-anniversary-of-tiananmen-massacre-between-oblivion-and-silence.html | Source: El Pas
[13:26]	TR Bot	 China on the anniversary of Tiananmen massacre: Between oblivion and silence | International | EL PAS English
[13:27]	TR News	"China Deviants" https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/china-overseas-protests-06052023161621.html | Source: RFA
[13:27]	TR Bot	 Young overseas Chinese mark 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre Radio Free Asia
[13:31]	TR News	"unfriendly countries" https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/06/russia-president-putin-bans-unfriendly-countries-journalists-from-countrys-showpiece/ | Source: JURIST
[13:31]	TR Bot	 Russia bans 'unfriendly countries' journalists from economic gathering - JURIST - News
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[13:31]	TR News	"Most of the Indian media supports Modi and has either misrepresented this crackdown or ignored it altogether." https://jacobin.com/2023/06/narendra-modi-india-authoritarian-internet-surveillance-control/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
[13:31]	TR Bot	 Narendra Modi Is Developing a New Template for Authoritarian Control of the Internet
[13:32]	TR News	"demand a change in management at Gannett" https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/US-Gannett-Journalists-Go-on-Strike-20230605-0014.html | Source: teleSUR
[13:32]	TR Bot	 US Gannett Journalists Go on Strike | News | teleSUR English
[13:33]	TR News	[Repeat] "The move of putting veteran journalist Mak Yin-ting in police custody in Causeway Bay on Sunday without giving any reason" https://hongkongfp.com/2023/06/06/hong-kong-police-urged-to-give-explanation-after-journalist-taken-away-on-tiananmen-crackdown-anniversary/ | Source: Hong Kong Free Press
[13:33]	TR Bot	 Hong Kong police urged to give explanation after journalist taken away on Tiananmen crackdown anniversary - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
[13:35]	TR News	Trademarks too small https://reason.com/volokh/2023/06/05/s-ct-will-decide-trump-too-small-trademark-first-amendment-case/ | Source: Reason
[13:35]	TR Bot	 S. Ct. Will Decide "TRUMP TOO SMALL" Trademark / First Amendment Case
[13:36]	TR News	"Why I will NEVER own an Amazon ring camera - indoor cloud cameras are a BAD idea!" https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/why-i-will-never-own-an-amazon-ring:7
[13:36]	TR Bot	 Why I will NEVER own an Amazon ring camera - indoor cloud cameras are a BAD idea!
[13:39]	TR News	"You may have noticed that it's been quiet here on Opensource.com lately." https://opensource.com/article/23/6/new-developments-opensourcecom Liars!!! ICBM just didn't like the bad publicity from Techrights.
[13:39]	TR Bot	developments at Opensource.com | Opensource.com
[13:39]	TR News	LINUX.COM ALL OVER AGAIN! pretending to not shut down the site just to save face, after being called out on it! LF and ICBM.
[13:40]	TR News	Techrights has records (private) to prove ICBM is lying about opensource.com
[13:43]	TR News	This article/video was viewed by over 1000 people and ICBM was not happy about it. It weakens their ability to sell Red Hat. http://techrights.org/2023/06/06/pattern-of-layoffs-at-red-hat/
[13:43]	TR Bot	 IBMs War on Open (Look at the Pattern of Layoffs at Red Hat) | Techrights
[13:45]	TR News	Ubuntu Blog: How telco companies can reduce 5G infrastructure costs with open source https://ubuntu.com//blog/how-telco-companies-can-reduce-5g-infrastructure-costs-with-open-source | Source: Ubuntu
[13:45]	TR Bot	telco companies can reduce 5G infrastructure costs with open source | Ubuntu
[13:45]	TR News	arduino https://linuxgizmos.com/the-epi-32u4-is-a-miniature-board-compatible-with-arduino/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
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[13:46]	TR News	"System calls are slightly different from what it suggests from its naming schema." https://linuxhandbook.com/system-calls/ | Source: Linux Handbook
[13:46]	TR Bot	 System Calls in Linux: An Overview
[13:46]	TR News	"In this guide, we will explore the process of installing and configuring a dual boot setup with Fedora and Windows." https://ostechnix.com/dual-boot-fedora-and-windows/ | Source: OSTechNix
[13:46]	TR Bot	To Dual Boot Fedora And Windows - OSTechNix
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[13:48]	TR News	"For short the IP address management process is called IPAM." https://www.tecmint.com/ip-address-management-tools-for-linux/ | Source: TecMint
[13:48]	TR Bot	 11 Best IP Address Management Tools for Linux
[13:48]	TR News	"Are you having problems monitoring your Linux network bandwidth usage?" https://www.tecmint.com/linux-network-bandwidth-monitoring-tools/ | Source: TecMint
[13:48]	TR Bot	 19 Best Linux Network Bandwidth Monitoring Tools
[13:49]	TR News	"GTK, an abbreviation for GNOME Toolkit, is an open-source and feature-rich development toolkit used for creating GUI applications." https://www.tecmint.com/failed-to-load-module-canberra-gtk-module/ | Source: TecMint
[13:49]	TR Bot	 How to Fix "Failed to Load Module Canberra-GTK-Module" Error
[13:49]	TR News	"In this short guide, we will show different ways of finding the process/service listening on a particular port in Linux." https://www.tecmint.com/find-out-which-process-listening-on-a-particular-port/ | Source: TecMint
[13:49]	TR Bot	 3 Ways to Find Which Linux Process Listening on a Port
[13:50]	TR News	"Released originally back in April, Transmogrify is a puzzle-platformer where you play as Chris a janitor stranded at Future Perfect Labs where strange and deadly specimens have breached containment and overrun the facility." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/transform-creatures-into-tools-in-puzzle-platformer-transmogrify-now-with-linux-support/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[13:50]	TR Bot	creatures into tools in puzzle-platformer Transmogrify now with Linux support | GamingOnLinux
[13:50]	TR News	"To celebrate the release of the new Amnesia: The Bunker, GOG are giving away free copies of Amnesia: A Machine For Pigs." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/claim-a-free-copy-of-amnesia-a-machine-for-pigs-on-gog/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[13:50]	TR Bot	a free copy of Amnesia: A Machine For Pigs on GOG | GamingOnLinux
[13:50]	TR News	"Valve has released an update to Proton Experimental, bringing with it a few nice fixes for issues in various games so here's a run over what's changed." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/proton-experimental-fixes-up-halo-mcc-ubisoft-connect-creativerse/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[13:50]	TR Bot	Experimental fixes up Halo MCC, Ubisoft Connect, Creativerse | GamingOnLinux
[13:52]	TR News	How to install Glances on Debian 11 https://unixcop.com/install-use-glances-debian/
[13:52]	TR Bot	 How to install Glances on Debian 11 - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials
[13:53]	TR News	How to Install Fish Shell on Linux https://linuxhint.com/install_fish_shell_linux/
[13:53]	TR Bot	 How to Install Fish Shell on Linux
[13:53]	TR News	"Amnesia: The Bunker is the latest in a series of horror games from Frictional Games, one that feels a lot like Alien: Isolation with a WW1 theme. Definitely not a game for the faint of heart like me." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/amnesia-the-bunker-is-stressful-horror-done-the-right-way/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[13:53]	TR Bot	The Bunker is stressful horror done the right way | GamingOnLinux
[13:54]	TR News	"Humble Choice for June 2023 is out now with some fresh games and here's a run over what to expect on Steam Deck and desktop GNU/Linux" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/humble-choice-for-june-2023-has-ghostwire-tokyo-and-remnant-from-the-ashes/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[13:54]	TR Bot	Choice for June 2023 has Ghostwire: Tokyo and Remnant: From the Ashes | GamingOnLinux
[13:55]	TR News	Why the fork did fossmint publish this??? https://www.fossmint.com/watch-free-movies-and-tv-shows-online/ | http://techrights.org/2020/06/10/fossmint-misnomer/
[13:55]	TR Bot	 25 Best Movie & TV Show Streaming Sites of 2023
[13:55]	TR Bot	 FOSSMint is Not a FOSS Site But a Proprietary Software Site | Techrights
[13:56]	TR News	"We've had transparent backplates for the Steam Deck for a while now but what about the front?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/a-fully-transparent-steam-deck-mod-seems-close-to-reality/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[13:56]	TR Bot	fully transparent Steam Deck mod is on the way | GamingOnLinux
[13:56]	TR News	"Something that not many indie titles are able to do, Dead Cells has now managed to hit over 10 million sales and still going strong." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/dead-cells-hits-over-10-million-sales/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[13:56]	TR Bot	Cells hits over 10 million sales | GamingOnLinux
[13:57]	TR News	"Have a few minutes to kill here and there?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/06/sandtrix-is-tetris-with-sand-delightful-free-and-renamed-after-a-dmca/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[13:57]	TR Bot	is Tetris with sand - delightful, free and renamed after a DMCA | GamingOnLinux
● Jun 07
[14:00]	TR News	Alyssa Rosenzweig: OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/OpenGL_3_1_is_Now_Available_in_Asahi_Linux_Boosting_Graphics_Pe.shtml
[14:00]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines OpenGL 3.1 is Now Available in Asahi Linux, Boosting Graphics Performance
[14:01]		*GGGGgggg (~GGGGgggg@ee9i6tf7quexn.irc) has joined #techrights
[14:02]	TR News	Had to spent a minute DELETING every article that mentions "Harry". Phew. That's better now. Can focus on news instead. What a junkyard WWW has become.
[14:02]	TR News	System76 admiration? https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2023/06/collection-of-system76-laptop-reviews-2015-2019.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
[14:02]	TR Bot	 Collection of System76 Laptop Reviews 2015-2019
[14:03]	TR News	"Wed like to announce that the openSUSE Release team plans to work on openSUSE Leap 15.6." https://news.opensuse.org/2023/06/06/leap-15.6-annoucement/ | Source: OpenSUSE
[14:03]	TR Bot	 Project Announces Plans for Another Minor Leap 15 Release - openSUSE News
[14:05]	TR News	"Evolving customer expectations have forced retailers to figure out how to better manage the ripple effects that the pandemic"... what corporate bollox https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/supply-chain-optimization-handling-returns | Source: Red Hat Official
[14:05]	TR Bot	 Supply chain challenges: Handling returns
[14:05]	TR News	"Instead, Hirte was created using transmission control protocol (TCP) based manager-client communication between the machines." https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/securing-d-bus-based-connections-mtls-and-double-proxy | Source: Red Hat Official
[14:05]	TR Bot	 Securing D-Bus based connections with mTLS and double proxy
[14:05]	TR News	"We caught up with Penny to find out more about her impressive career, why she chose Red Hat and her open approach to leadership." Did Red hat fire the last one or did the last one jump ship? https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/getting-know-penny-philpot-vice-president-emea-partner-ecosystems-red-hat | Source: Red Hat Official
[14:05]	TR Bot	 Getting to know Penny Philpot, Vice President, EMEA Partner Ecosystems, Red Hat
[14:06]	TR News	Red Hat is NOT stable under ICBM leadership. They burn themselves and then try to put out their own fires.
[14:07]	TR News	"Its time to prepare for the end of maintenance support." RED HAT: PAY US AGAIN!! https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/end-maintenance-red-hat-enterprise-linux-7-almost-here | Source: Red Hat Official
[14:07]	TR Bot	 End of maintenance for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 is almost here
[14:07]	TR News	Based on the timing, ICBM is reactionary with OpenSource.com. It's just reacting to negative publicity from Techrights, within ONE DAY.
[14:09]	TR News	No, no... App Stores needs to be BURNED TO THE GROUND. They are dangerous for a lot of reasons. See how China handles App Stores. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/06/save-news-we-must-open-app-stores EFF run like s bunch of Macheads!!! Because it is who controls it now...
[14:09]	TR Bot	 To Save the News, We Must Open Up App Stores | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[14:10]	TR News	welfare and tech https://www.laquadrature.net/en/2023/06/07/family-branch-of-the-french-welfare-system-technology-in-the-service-of-exclusion-and-harassment-of-the-most-vulnerable/ | Source: La Quadature Du Net
[14:10]	TR Bot	 Family Branch of the French Welfare System: technology in the service of exclusion and harassment of the most vulnerable La Quadrature du Net
[14:11]	TR News	<li>
[14:11]	TR News	poverty in australia https://michaelwest.com.au/contentious-australia-first-rent-bidding-revamp-shelved/ | Source: Michael West Media
[14:11]	TR Bot	 Contentious Australia-first rent bidding revamp shelved - Michael West
[14:12]	TR News	Failure of the US Monetary System https://scheerpost.com/2023/06/07/failure-of-the-us-monetary-system-and-the-solution/ | Source: Scheerpost
[14:12]	TR Bot	of the US Monetary System and the Solution - scheerpost.com
[14:16]	TR News	"We're here pleading our case to a government that has been unresponsive, if not hostile, to an unprecedented movement in our City Council's history" https://scheerpost.com/2023/06/07/the-whole-world-is-watching-atlanta-city-council-approves-cop-city-funding/ | Source: Scheerpost
[14:16]	TR Bot	Whole World Is Watching': Atlanta City Council Approves Cop City Funding - scheerpost.com
[14:17]	TR News	 (NEW): Games: Transmogrify, GOG, and Much More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Games_Transmogrify_GOG_and_Much_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Games_Transmogrify_GOG_and_Much_More.gmi 
[14:17]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Games: Transmogrify, GOG, and Much More
[14:17]	TR News	 (NEW): Arduino and Raspberry Pi Projects http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Arduino_and_Raspberry_Pi_Projects.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Arduino_and_Raspberry_Pi_Projects.gmi 
[14:17]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Arduino and Raspberry Pi Projects
[14:17]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/today_s_howtos.1.gmi 
[14:17]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[14:18]	TR News	"I tell you, serving as a New York Times correspondent these days cannot be easy. You have to convey utter nonsense to your readers" https://scheerpost.com/2023/06/06/patrick-lawrence-first-there-were-neo-nazis-then-there-were-no-nazis-then-there-were/ | Source: Scheerpost
[14:18]	TR Bot	Lawrence: First There Were Neo-Nazis, Then There Were No Nazis, Then There Were - scheerpost.com
[14:18]	TR News	"New intelligence report from Jack Teixerias Discord leaks reveals CIA, Europe knew about plot to blow up the pipeline." https://scheerpost.com/2023/06/06/biden-ignored-intel-about-nord-stream-sabotage-three-months-before-it-happened/ | Source: Scheerpost
[14:18]	TR Bot	Ignored Intel About Nord Stream Sabotage Three Months Before It Happened - scheerpost.com
[14:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[14:20]	TR News	"The U.S. has funded Ukraine with almost $40 billion in security assistance yet does not reveal to the public how that money is used to support an army with a general willing to engage in acts of terrorism and destroy critical civilian infrastructure." https://scheerpost.com/2023/06/06/biden-ignored-intel-about-nord-stream-sabotage-three-months-before-it-happened/
[14:22]	TR News	"growth"???? "cuts outlook"? Can AP stop saying "GROWTH" all the time? https://michaelwest.com.au/world-bank-lifts-2023-growth-forecasts-cuts-outlook/ | Source: Michael West Media
[14:22]	TR Bot	 World Bank lifts 2023 growth forecasts, cuts outlook - Michael West
[14:23]	TR News	US debt https://michaelwest.com.au/us-debt-ceiling-talks-rekindle-feud-over-ukraine-funds/ | Source: Michael West Media
[14:23]	TR Bot	 US debt ceiling talks rekindle feud over Ukraine funds - Michael West
[14:24]	TR News	USA: spending endless money trying to make Russia and China poor. All it does, in turn, is make Americans and Europeans poorer. We rely on energy imports, electronics etc. It's all "MADE IN CHINA".
[14:24]		*GGGGgggg has quit (Quit: <L29Ah> househorse: the entire globalistic oligarchy is afraid of you, are you happy? <u0_a77> goosestepping: this definitely is one of a kind - https://executingreality.com/)
[14:25]	TR News	Oligarchs' media blaming the GREED OF THE POOR!!! Incredible! https://michaelwest.com.au/labor-rejects-claim-wage-rise-to-blame-for-rates-hike/ | Source: Michael West Media
[14:25]	TR Bot	 Labor rejects claim wage rise to blame for rates hike - Michael West
[14:26]	TR News	DAMN THESE PEASANTS WHO WANT TO HAVE A LIVING WAGE AND BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THEIR HABITAT WHERE THEY SLEEP AFTER WORK!! -oligarchs' media, an occupying force
[14:27]	TR News	This is MASS SURVEILLANCE by Six-eyes, NOT altruism. Imperialism is NOT altruism. Check "TEMPORA". https://michaelwest.com.au/japan-australia-us-to-fund-micronesia-undersea-cable/ | Source: Michael West Media
[14:27]	TR Bot	 Japan, Australia, US to fund Micronesia undersea cable - Michael West
[14:28]	TR News	inflation for the rich... so they can charge more money... this inflation doesn't bother them much as they barely pay for food an energy... less than 1% of their spendings https://michaelwest.com.au/australia-on-narrow-path-to-bring-down-inflation-rba/ | Source: Michael West Media
[14:28]	TR Bot	 Australia on 'narrow path' to bring down inflation: RBA - Michael West
[14:31]	TR News	The latest corporate spin is that rising [sic] wages drive inflation. It's exactly the opposite, in reverse. Companies cannot employ starving people.
[14:31]	TR News	Cop City https://www.democracynow.org/2023/6/6/cop_city_atlanta_vote_bail_fund | Source: Democracy Now
[14:31]	TR Bot	 Cop City: Atlanta City Council OKs $67M for Facility Despite Mass Protests & Armed Raid on Bail Fund | Democracy Now!
[14:32]	TR News	Assange freed by Xmas? One can only hope... https://www.democracynow.org/2023/6/6/julian_assange_wikileaks | Source: Democracy Now
[14:32]	TR Bot	 Enough Is Enough: Australian PM Throws Support Behind Movement to Free Julian Assange | Democracy Now!
[14:36]	TR News	All banking is all about banks' money, nothing to do with commonwealth or national good. Here: https://michaelwest.com.au/climate-change-risk-added-to-banking-watchdogs-beat/ | Source: Michael West Media
[14:36]	TR Bot	 Climate change risk added to banking watchdog's beat - Michael West
[14:36]	TR News	banksters are starving the poor https://michaelwest.com.au/inflation-beating-pay-rises-cant-be-widespread-rba/ | Source: Michael West Media
[14:36]	TR Bot	 Inflation-beating pay rises can't be widespread: RBA - Michael West
[14:38]	TR News	FTI Consulting. Who helped the fracking giants and CRIMINALS at the EPO. FTI Consulting are thugs and liars. Stop treating them like experts... https://michaelwest.com.au/jenny-craig-to-cease-trading-employees-made-redundant/ | Source: Michael West Media
[14:38]	TR Bot	 Jenny Craig to cease trading, employees made redundant - Michael West
[14:39]	TR News	 (NEW): Machine Learning in Linux: BackgroundRemover remove backgrounds from images and video http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Machine_Learning_in_Linux_BackgroundRemover_remove_backgrounds_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Machine_Learning_in_Linux_BackgroundRemover_remove_backgrounds_.gmi 
[14:39]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Machine Learning in Linux: BackgroundRemover remove backgrounds from images and video
[14:41]	TR News	"In the early 1980s, two Black women sat at a table, a tape recorder between them." https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/black-women-writers-at-work/ | Source: The Nation
[14:41]	TR Bot	 How Black Women Writers Got It Done | The Nation
[14:41]	TR News	"Cancel Culture Is Free Speech"... so is promotion of Hitler https://www.thenation.com/article/society/cancel-culture-first-amendment-j-marion-sims/ | Source: The Nation
[14:41]	TR Bot	 Like It or Not, Cancel Culture Is Free Speech | The Nation
[14:43]	TR News	AP BOLLOX. And as the currency lost like 10% in value... the economy actually SHRANK about 10%. The lying and gaslighting for the rich, by the rich. https://michaelwest.com.au/australias-economy-expands-0-2pct-in-march-quarter/ | Source: Michael West Media
[14:43]	TR Bot	 Australia's economy expands 0.2pct in March quarter - Michael West
[14:45]	TR News	OMG! Surveillance ..... now with EXTRA BUZZWORDS !! https://www.thenation.com/article/society/surveillance-paris-olympics-artificial-intelligence/ | Source: The Nation
[14:45]	TR Bot	 Get Ready for AI Surveillance at the 2024 Paris Olympics | The Nation
[14:48]	TR News	Congress Is Sticking Students With the Check https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/student-debt-relief/ | Source: The Nation
[14:48]	TR Bot	 Congress Is Sticking Students With the Check | The Nation
[14:54]	TR News	 (NEW): Red Hat to stop packaging LibreOffice for RHEL http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Red_Hat_to_stop_packaging_LibreOffice_for_RHEL.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Red_Hat_to_stop_packaging_LibreOffice_for_RHEL.gmi 
[14:54]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Red Hat to stop packaging LibreOffice for RHEL
[14:58]	TR News	Media bullshit sponsored by Microsoft to hype up a chatbot that is NOT even HEY HI, RMS insists... https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/artificial-intelligence-silicon-valley/ | Source: The Nation
[14:58]	TR Bot	 AI Doesnt Pose an Existential Riskbut Silicon Valley Does | The Nation
[14:59]	TR News	"Cop City" https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/cop-city-arrests-atlanta-repression/ | Source: The Nation
[14:59]	TR Bot	 Atlanta Is Trying to Crush the Opposition to Cop City by Any Means Necessary | The Nation
[14:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
● Jun 07
[15:00]	TR News	"One of the most expensive aspects of any cybercriminal operation is the time and effort it takes to constantly create large numbers of new throwaway email accounts." https://krebsonsecurity.com/2023/06/service-rents-email-addresses-for-account-signups/ | Source: Krebs On Security
[15:00]	TR Bot	 Service Rents Email Addresses for Account Signups Krebs on Security
[15:05]	TR News	The old straw man. The vaccines can be shit for other, plausible reasons. There are even academic papers about the ruinous side effects. https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2023/06/06/return-of-the-revenge-of-vaccines-permanently-alter-your-dna/ |
[15:05]	TR Bot	 Return of the revenge of "vaccines permanently alter your DNA" - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE
[15:06]	TR News	"Manga publishers Kodakawa, Shogakukan, and Shueisha hope to recoup millions of dollars in damages from the operator of Mangamura" https://torrentfreak.com/manga-publishers-seek-google-analytics-data-to-back-14m-piracy-damages-claim-230607/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[15:06]	TR Bot	Publishers Seek Google Analytics Data to Back $14m Piracy Damages Claim * TorrentFreak
[15:06]	TR News	"While the shutdown of RARBG is bad news for former users, scammers are happily exploiting the confusion to boost their own traffic." https://torrentfreak.com/dodgy-rarbg-knockoffs-thrive-as-former-users-seek-refuge-230606/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[15:06]	TR Bot	RARBG Knockoffs Thrive as Former Users Seek Refuge * TorrentFreak
[15:06]	TR News	"After somehow managing to survive years of losses that pushed the company ever closer to bankruptcy" https://torrentfreak.com/rightscorp-taps-indie-labels-to-fuel-new-wave-of-piracy-settlement-action-230606/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[15:06]	TR Bot	Taps Indie Labels to Fuel New Wave of Piracy Settlement Action * TorrentFreak
[15:07]	TR News	 (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Android_Leftovers.gmi 
[15:07]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[15:12]	TR News	EU says it cracks down on fraud. So why does EU PARTICIPATE in the EPO fraud? Why did it start a fraudulent court illegal and unconstitutionally? Where does "fraud" seem acceptable? https://telex.hu/english/2023/06/07/olaf-opened-15-investigations-into-suspected-fraud-in-hungary-last-year | Source: Telex (Hungary)
[15:12]	TR Bot	 Telex: OLAF opened 15 investigations into suspected fraud in Hungary last year
[15:13]	TR News	youtube is censorship with a user interface https://www.techdirt.com/2023/06/06/possible-reasons-why-youtube-has-given-up-trying-to-police-2020-election-misinfo/ | Source: Techdirt
[15:13]	TR Bot	Reasons Why YouTube Has Given Up Trying To Police 2020 Election Misinfo | Techdirt
[15:13]	TR News	twitter will pay her a few salaries before shutting down or until she leaves (seeing what a mess twitter is) https://www.techdirt.com/2023/06/06/welcome-to-twitter-linda-yaccarino-no-one-wants-to-advertise-on-your-terrible-platform-any-more/ | Source: Techdirt
[15:13]	TR Bot	To Twitter, Linda Yaccarino, No One Wants To Advertise On Your Terrible Platform Any More | Techdirt
[15:15]	TR News	"Op amps are typically used to build signal processing circuits like amplifiers, integrators and oscillators." https://hackaday.com/2023/06/06/op-amp-contest-this-lighthouse-sculpture-flickers-in-the-rhythm-of-chaos/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:15]	TR Bot	Amp Contest: This Lighthouse Sculpture Flickers In The Rhythm Of Chaos | Hackaday
[15:16]	TR News	This is a record-selling album? Really? Seems like autotune BS. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WHvwLXC9Vsg
[15:16]	TR Bot	 [FULL ALBUM] StrayKids ( ) (5 - S T A R) - Invidious
[15:17]	TR News	disney + drm + mass surveillance https://www.techdirt.com/2023/06/06/disney-gets-a-nice-fat-tax-break-for-making-its-streaming-catalog-worse/ | Source: Techdirt
[15:17]	TR Bot	Gets A Nice Fat Tax Break For Making Its Streaming Catalog Worse | Techdirt
[15:17]	TR News	"Joining a new digital community can be an exhilarating and empowering experience." https://www.techdirt.com/2023/06/06/the-fleeting-utopia-navigating-the-euphoria-of-new-digital-communities/ | Source: Techdirt
[15:17]	TR Bot	Fleeting Utopia: Navigating The Euphoria Of New Digital Communities | Techdirt
[15:18]	TR News	"LEGO Genius" https://hackaday.com/2023/06/07/billion-year-clock-is-lego-genius-or-madness/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:18]	TR Bot	Year Clock Is LEGO Genius Or Madness | Hackaday
[15:18]	TR News	Ellen Euler https://creativecommons.org/2023/06/06/ellen-euler-open-culture-voices-season-2-episode-18/ | Source: Creative Commons
[15:18]	TR Bot	 Ellen Euler Open Culture VOICES, Season 2 Episode 18 - Creative Commons
[15:19]	TR News	Climate Crisis https://www.propublica.org/article/climate-crisis-niche-migration-environment-population | Source: Pro Publica, funded by the world's biggest polluter by far (Bill Gates) to lie and gaslight us
[15:19]	TR Bot	 Climate Crisis Has Stranded 600 Million Outside Most Livable Environment ProPublica
[15:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[15:21]	TR News	ProPublica, there is a MISSING DISCLOSURE. You are taking BRIBES from the world's BIGGEST PLUNDERER of farmland (Bill Gates) https://projects.propublica.org/turf-wars/ |
[15:21]	TR Bot	 Las Vegas Won't Save the Water It Needs by Just Removing Lawns ProPublica
[15:21]	TR News	Rechargeable Batteries https://hackaday.com/2023/06/07/harvesting-rechargeable-batteries-from-single-use-devices/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:21]	TR Bot	Rechargeable Batteries From Single-Use Devices | Hackaday
[15:23]	TR News	"Almost exactly a year ago, we discussed the train wreck release of Knights of the Old Republic 2 as a port for the Nintendo Switch." https://www.techdirt.com/2023/06/06/borked-kotor-2-switch-release-ends-as-it-began-a-shit-show/ | Source: Techdirt
[15:23]	TR Bot	KOTOR 2 Switch Release Ends As It Began: A Shit Show | Techdirt
[15:24]	TR News	Slaves gone angry; Moderator Mayhem! https://www.techdirt.com/2023/06/06/techdirt-podcast-episode-353-moderator-mayhem/ "in partnership with Engine"??
[15:24]	TR Bot	Podcast Episode 353: Moderator Mayhem! | Techdirt
[15:26]	TR News	"With most of these devices, a Linux environment is included running on top of an ARM platform. If that sounds similar to the Raspberry Pi..." https://hackaday.com/2023/06/06/retropie-without-the-pi/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:26]	TR Bot	Without The Pi | Hackaday
[15:26]	TR News	"From here the major hurdle is that using the default software from these devices is fairly limiting, so [Paulo] reached for a Raspbee 2 Zigbee gateway for use with a Raspberry Pi" https://hackaday.com/2023/06/06/a-lightweight-smart-home-server/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:26]	TR Bot	Lightweight Smart Home Server | Hackaday
[15:28]	TR News	blackmail https://scheerpost.com/2023/06/06/for-media-giving-in-to-debt-limit-blackmail-was-a-triumph-of-bipartisanship/ | Source: Scheerpost
[15:28]	TR Bot	Media, Giving in to Debt Limit Blackmail Was a Triumph of Bipartisanship - scheerpost.com
[15:30]	TR News	Reverse Engineering A Better Nights Sleep https://hackaday.com/2023/06/06/reverse-engineering-a-better-nights-sleep/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:30]	TR Bot	Engineering A Better Nights Sleep | Hackaday
[15:31]	TR News	Mass Media Employees https://scheerpost.com/2023/06/07/15-reasons-why-mass-media-employees-act-like-propagandists/ | Source: Scheerpost
[15:31]	TR Bot	Reasons Why Mass Media Employees Act Like Propagandists - scheerpost.com
[15:31]	TR News	Twitter Files https://scheerpost.com/2023/06/07/twitter-files-extra-how-the-worlds-no-kidding-decision-makers-got-organized/ | Source: Scheerpost
[15:31]	TR Bot	Files Extra: How the World's 'No-Kidding Decision Makers' Got Organized - scheerpost.com
[15:32]	TR News	 (NEW): Hackaday on Raspberry Pi and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Hackaday_on_Raspberry_Pi_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Hackaday_on_Raspberry_Pi_and_More.gmi 
[15:32]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Hackaday on Raspberry Pi and More
[15:33]	TR News	siliconangle propaganda machine, bribed by Cisco for this propaganda (see "ciscolive"). This is an attack on journalism. Cisco bribes for fake journalism that disguises the real reporting. https://siliconangle.com/2023/06/06/power-superclouds-thecubes-analysis-ciscos-vision-simpler-secure-future-ciscolive/
[15:33]	TR Bot	power of superclouds: TheCUBE's analysis of Cisco's vision for a simpler, more secure future - SiliconANGLE
[15:34]	TR News	Microsoft Windows Cost Surges https://www.securityweek.com/verizon-2023-dbir-human-error-involved-in-many-breaches-ransomware-cost-surges/
[15:34]	TR Bot	2023 DBIR: Human Error Involved in Many Breaches, Ransomware Cost Surges - SecurityWeek
[15:35]	TR News	Gulag Chrome and security are complete opposites. This is "optics". https://www.securityweek.com/google-patches-third-chrome-zero-day-of-2023/
[15:35]	TR Bot	Patches Third Chrome Zero-Day of 2023 - SecurityWeek
[15:36]	TR News	What a joke!!!! Apple works for the NSA. The goal is NOT security. The goal is spying. https://www.securityweek.com/apple-unveils-upcoming-privacy-and-security-features/
[15:36]	TR Bot	Unveils Upcoming Privacy and Security Features - SecurityWeek
[15:37]	TR News	Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.securityweek.com/several-major-organizations-confirm-being-impacted-by-moveit-attack/
[15:37]	TR Bot	Major Organizations Confirm Being Impacted by MOVEit Attack - SecurityWeek
[15:40]	TR News	Cisco bribes media for puff pieces. Check the sponsors of this SPAM site too (hijacked "containerjournal" months ago) https://cloudnativenow.com/features/cisco-outshift-focuses-on-cloud-native-tools-and-platforms/ Cisco = back doors
[15:40]	TR Bot	 Cisco Outshift Focuses on Cloud-Native Tools and Platforms - Cloud Native Now
[15:42]	TR News	A Religious School Thats Also a Public School https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/briefing/oklahoma-religious-school.html
[15:42]	TR Bot	 A Religious School Thats Also a Public School - The New York Times
[15:42]	TR News	Growth in what? The currencies lose their value rapidly. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/business/economy/world-bank-projections.html
[15:42]	TR Bot	 World Bank Projects Weak Global Growth Amid Rising Interest Rates - The New York Times
[15:45]	TR News	How to Install Kubuntu 23.04 https://owlhowto.com/how-to-install-kubuntu-23-04/
[15:45]	TR Bot	 How to Install Kubuntu 23.04
[15:55]	TR News	 (NEW): Installing Kubuntu and Some Ubuntu (Canonical) Corporate Fluff http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Installing_Kubuntu_and_Some_Ubuntu_Canonical_Corporate_Fluff.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Installing_Kubuntu_and_Some_Ubuntu_Canonical_Corporate_Fluff.gmi 
[15:55]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Installing Kubuntu and Some Ubuntu (Canonical) Corporate Fluff
[15:55]	TR News	 (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi 
[15:55]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
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[16:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[16:20]	TR News	Firefox Developer Experience: Firefox DevTools Newsletter 114 https://fxdx.dev/firefox-devtools-newsletter-114/
[16:20]	TR Bot	 Firefox DevTools Newsletter 114 Firefox Developer Experience
[16:26]	TR News	 (NEW): Firefox WebDriver Newsletter and Firefox DevTools Newsletter http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Firefox_WebDriver_Newsletter_and_Firefox_DevTools_Newsletter.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Firefox_WebDriver_Newsletter_and_Firefox_DevTools_Newsletter.gmi 
[16:26]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Firefox WebDriver Newsletter and Firefox DevTools Newsletter
[16:26]	TR News	 (NEW): GNU/inux vs. FreeBSD: FreeBSD or Linux, OpenKuBSD http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/GNU_inux_vs_FreeBSD_FreeBSD_or_Linux_OpenKuBSD.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/GNU_inux_vs_FreeBSD_FreeBSD_or_Linux_OpenKuBSD.gmi 
[16:26]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines GNU/inux vs. FreeBSD: FreeBSD or Linux, OpenKuBSD
[16:26]	TR News	 (NEW): Latest in Red Hat's Site http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Latest_in_Red_Hat_s_Site.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Latest_in_Red_Hat_s_Site.gmi 
[16:26]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Latest in Red Hat's Site
[16:27]	TR News	 (NEW): postmarketOS 23.06 Arrives for Linux Phones and Tablets with GNOME Mobile http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/postmarketOS_23_06_Arrives_for_Linux_Phones_and_Tablets_with_GN.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/postmarketOS_23_06_Arrives_for_Linux_Phones_and_Tablets_with_GN.gmi 
[16:27]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines postmarketOS 23.06 Arrives for Linux Phones and Tablets with GNOME Mobile
[16:31]	TR News	SpellBinding: DLNOSUY Wordo: INEP gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2023-06-07.gmi
[16:32]	TR News	alternative input methods gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1442
[16:32]	TR News	Qubes OS dom0 files workflow using fossil gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/qubes-os-version-control-dom0.gmi
[16:34]	TR News	"Cosmos has been up and running since the start of 2022, collecting gemlog posts and other feed entries around Geminispace. I thought it would be interesting to take a closer look at the data." gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2023-06_charting-the-cosmos.gmi
[16:35]	TR News	Gemini activity over time gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/images/cosmos-weekly-authors_2023-05.png
[16:37]	TR News	Hybrid Shadows - Watched, Waterfall gemini://lantashifiles.com/gemlog/entries/2023-06-07.gmi
[16:39]	TR News	tuxmachines birthday in 2.2 days
[16:41]	TR News	IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, June 06, 2023 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/07/irc-log-060623/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/07/irc-log-060623/
[16:41]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, June 06, 2023 | Techrights
[16:43]	TR News	US imperialism's proposition: the planet will be "stable" as long as you accept the total supremacy of the US and don't rock this boat. BRICS not accepting that.
[16:51]	TR News	 /2023/06/07/working-for-the-public-universities-software-and-freedom/ | Gemini address: /2023/06/07/working-for-the-public-universities-software-and-freedom/
[16:52]	TR News	 /2023/06/07/working-for-the-public-universities-software-and-freedom/ | Gemini address: /2023/06/07/working-for-the-public-universities-software-and-freedom/
[16:53]	TR News	 /2023/06/07/working-for-the-public-universities-software-and-freedom/ | Gemini address: /2023/06/07/working-for-the-public-universities-software-and-freedom/
[16:53]	schestowitz[TR]	Open Accessweird bug
[16:55]	schestowitz[TR]	wordpress bug
[16:55]	TR News	Gemini Links 07/06/2023: Jukka Charting Geminispace | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/07/charting-the-gemini-space-or-cosmos/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/07/charting-the-gemini-space-or-cosmos/
[16:55]	TR Bot	 Gemini Links 07/06/2023: Jukka Charting Geminispace | Techrights
[16:55]	schestowitz[TR]	fixed
[16:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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[17:04]	TR News	Links 07/06/2023: Reddit Layoffs and OpenGL 3.1 in Asahi Linux | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/06/07/reddit-layoffs/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/07/reddit-layoffs/
[17:04]	TR Bot	 Links 07/06/2023: Reddit Layoffs and OpenGL 3.1 in Asahi Linux | Techrights
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[17:14]	TR News	Spotify: BILLION DOLLARS IN LOSSES PER YEAR. THIS IS NOT SUCCESS!!! https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/business/spotify-layoffs-gimlet-podcasts.html
[17:14]	TR Bot	 Spotify Podcast Layoffs Will Affect Gimlet and Parcast Workers - The New York Times
[17:15]	TR News	 (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.1.gmi 
[17:15]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Gemini Articles of Interest
[17:15]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/today_s_leftovers.gmi 
[17:15]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[17:15]	TR News	SEC Sues Coinbase, Accuses Crypto Platform of Breaking Market Rules https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/business/sec-coinbase-lawsuit-cryptocurrency.html
[17:15]	TR Bot	 SEC Sues Coinbase, Accuses Crypto Platform of Breaking Market Rules - The New York Times
[17:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[17:20]	TR News	ByteDance god credential used to help China track Hong Kong activists: Former executive https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/bytedance-accused-of-helping-china-track-hong-kong-activists-court-filing
[17:20]	TR Bot	 ByteDance god credential used to help China track Hong Kong activists: Former executive | The Straits Times
[17:21]		*isak (~isak@dzzss3vg4xwbw.irc) has joined #techrights
[17:25]	TR News	Hong Kong court quashes conviction of journalist who probed Yuen Long attacks https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/hk-choy-06062023161004.html
[17:25]	TR Bot	 Hong Kong court quashes conviction of journalist who probed Yuen Long attacks Radio Free Asia
[17:28]	TR News	Conde nast class propaganda https://www.newyorker.com/news/persons-of-interest/what-if-were-thinking-about-inflation-all-wrong
[17:28]	TR Bot	 What if Were Thinking About Inflation All Wrong? | The New Yorker
[17:29]		*phebus (~phebus@f95gnd3zj7732.irc) has joined #techrights
[17:30]	TR News	Using Kirigami built with Qt6 without kdesrc-build https://rabbitictranslator.com/kirigami6/
[17:30]	TR Bot	Kirigami built with Qt6 without kdesrc-build :: rabbiticTranslator
[17:31]	TR News	How to Install Dokku on Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-dokku-on-ubuntu-linux/
[17:31]	TR Bot	to Install Dokku on Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04 - LinuxCapable
[17:32]	TR News	How to Install Grub Customizer on Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-grub-customizer-on-ubuntu-linux/
[17:32]	TR Bot	to Install Grub Customizer on Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04 - LinuxCapable
[17:32]	TR News	How to Install WebStorm on Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-webstorm-on-ubuntu-linux/
[17:32]	TR Bot	to Install WebStorm on Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04 - LinuxCapable
[17:33]	TR News	How to Install CLion on Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-clion-on-ubuntu-linux/
[17:33]	TR Bot	to Install CLion on Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04 - LinuxCapable
[17:35]	TR News	HMRC issues scam warning: how to spot a dodgy email or phone call https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/hmrc-issues-scam-warning-how-to-spot-a-dodgy-email-or-phone-call-abwoT2v8O4MU HMRC is also protecting fraud: http://techrights.org/wiki/Crimes_of_Sirius_Open_Source#Report_for_Tax_Fraud
[17:35]	TR Bot	 HMRC issues scam warning: how to spot a dodgy email or phone call - Which? News
[17:35]	TR Bot	 Crimes of Sirius Open Source - Techrights
[17:36]	TR News	How to Install a Debian File in Linux? https://draculaservers.com/tutorials/install-debian-file-in-linux/
[17:36]	TR Bot	 How to Install a Debian File in Linux? - Dracula Servers Tutorials
[17:36]	TR News	Install NixOS with Gnome Desktop on VirtualBox https://kifarunix.com/install-nixos-with-gnome-desktop-on-virtualbox/
[17:36]	TR Bot	NixOS with Gnome Desktop on VirtualBox - kifarunix.com
[17:37]	TR News	FreeBSD or Linux A Choice Without OS Wars https://klarasystems.com/articles/choosing-between-freebsd-and-linux-a-choice-without-os-wars/
[17:37]	TR Bot	 Choosing Between FreeBSD and Linux A Choice Without OS Wars
[17:37]	TR News	Seamless Sharing: Exchanging Data between Hosts and Docker Containers https://linuxconcept.com/seamless-sharing-exchanging-data-between-hosts-and-docker-containers/
[17:37]	TR Bot	 Seamless Data Flow: Sharing between Hosts & Docker Containers
[17:38]	TR News	Exploring Docker: A Comprehensive Introduction to Use Cases https://linuxconcept.com/exploring-docker-a-comprehensive-introduction-to-use-cases/
[17:38]	TR Bot	 Unleashing Docker's Potential: A Guide to Use Cases
[17:40]	TR News	Docker in Action: Streamlining Testing for Your Projects https://linuxconcept.com/docker-in-action-streamlining-testing-for-your-projects/
[17:40]	TR Bot	 Streamline Your Testing with Docker in Action
[17:41]	TR News	CI/CD Excellence: Leveraging Shippable and Heroku with Docker https://linuxconcept.com/ci-cd-excellence-leveraging-shippable-and-heroku-with-docker/
[17:41]	TR Bot	 Mastering CI/CD Excellence with Shippable, Heroku & Docker
[17:42]	TR News	TravisCI Meets Docker: Enhancing CI/CD Workflows https://linuxconcept.com/travisci-meets-docker-enhancing-ci-cd-workflows/
[17:42]	TR Bot	 TravisCI Meets Docker: Revolutionizing CI/CD Workflows
[17:44]	TR News	 (NEW): PostgreSQL: pgAdmin 4 v7.3 Released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/PostgreSQL_pgAdmin_4_v7_3_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/PostgreSQL_pgAdmin_4_v7_3_Released.gmi 
[17:44]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines PostgreSQL: pgAdmin 4 v7.3 Released
[17:44]	TR News	How to Extract initrd/initramfs to View Content in Linux https://trendoceans.com/how-to-unpack-initrd-initramfs-to-view-content-in-linux/
[17:44]	TR Bot	 How to Extract initrd/initramfs to View Content in Linux - TREND OCEANS
[17:45]	TR News	"Your success as a Data Scientist isnt because of your coding skills. Your success is determined by how well you can persuade decision-makers to take action. And thats a powerful skill that Im going to help you with today: Its called Storytelling." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2023/06/how-to-improve-your-storytelling-with-r/
[17:45]	TR Bot	to improve your storytelling with R | R-bloggers
[17:47]	TR News	Peter Czanik: Introducing sngbench: a shell script to performance test your syslog-ng https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/introducing-sngbench-a-shell-script-to-performance-test-your-syslog-ng
[17:47]	TR Bot	sngbench: a shell script to performance test your syslog-ng - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community
[17:47]	TR News	Deleting Files and Directories in Linux: Step-by-Step Instructions https://www.cloudbooklet.com/deleting-files-and-directories-in-linux/
[17:47]	TR Bot	 Deleting Files and Directories in Linux: Step-by-Step Instructions
[17:47]	TR News	Solving the Cannot Find LVM Volume Group error in Linux https://www.fosslinux.com/113805/solving-the-cannot-find-lvm-volume-group-error-in-linux.htm
[17:47]	TR Bot	 Solving the 'Cannot Find LVM Volume Group' Error in Linux
[17:48]	TR News	How To Check Linux Disk Space Usage: Classic SysAdmin Tips and Commands https://www.itprotoday.com/linux/how-check-linux-disk-space-usage-classic-sysadmin-tips-and-commands
[17:48]	TR Bot	 How To Check Linux Disk Space Usage: Tips and Commands | ITPro Today: IT News, How-Tos, Trends, Case Studies, Career Tips, More
[17:48]	TR News	Alternatives to popular CLI tools: lsof https://www.linuxlinks.com/alternatives-popular-cli-tools-lsof/
[17:48]	TR Bot	to popular CLI tools: lsof - LinuxLinks
[17:49]	TR News	What Is Parabola Linux and How to Install It https://www.maketecheasier.com/parabola-linux-guide/
[17:49]	TR Bot	 What Is Parabola Linux and How to Install It - Make Tech Easier
[17:54]	TR News	Using tail Command in Linux https://itsfoss.com/tail-command/
[17:54]	TR Bot	 Using tail Command in Linux [5 Examples]
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[17:55]	TR News	How to Backup and Restore a PostgreSQL Database in Linux https://www.tecmint.com/backup-and-restore-postgresql-database/
[17:55]	TR Bot	 How to Backup and Restore a PostgreSQL Database
[17:56]	TR News	GEEKOM launches AS 6 and AS 5 AMD-based mini-PCs https://linuxgizmos.com/geekom-launches-as-6-and-as-5-amd-based-mini-pcs/
[17:56]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/geekom-launches-as-6-and-as-5-amd-based-mini-pcs/ )
[17:59]	psydruid	someone was banned from hardware.info a day or two ago for writing "my nephew doesn't think ryzen is great"
[17:59]	TR News	No buzzwords? well, "apple": itself is a buzzword!! Just a brand slapped on Chinese merch https://qz.com/apple-vision-pro-debut-buzzwords-not-used-wwdc-2023-1850509435
[17:59]	TR Bot	 All the buzzwords Apple avoided in its headset demo yesterday
[17:59]	psydruid	is this censorship on behalf of dying sponsors?
[17:59]	schestowitz[TR]	that's disgusting... how can anyone say that about ryzen
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[18:00]	schestowitz[TR]	ryzen has many critical bugs
[18:00]	schestowitz[TR]	aka defects
[18:00]	psydruid	I wonder how much of that happens in Anglophone media
[18:00]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe the site was sent bribes
[18:00]	psydruid	yes, exactly
[18:00]	schestowitz[TR]	like phoronix
[18:00]	psydruid	but to ban a member because of that?
[18:00]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe prior posts too?
[18:00]	psydruid	draconian times
[18:00]	schestowitz[TR]	twitter did that to users
[18:00]	psydruid	maybe
[18:01]	schestowitz[TR]	who criticise the oh-so-wonderful covid-19 test vaccines
[18:01]	psydruid	this is really no better than what happens in Red Russia or Red China
[18:01]	schestowitz[TR]	yes
[18:01]	schestowitz[TR]	as I keep noting
[18:01]	schestowitz[TR]	but we justify it some other way
[18:02]	psydruid	and for what? some stupid company?
[18:02]	schestowitz[TR]	this channel hs a transphobic nutcase who asked me to ban a gay
[18:02]	schestowitz[TR]	of course I did not
[18:03]	psydruid	gulagbot can't be taken seriously
[18:03]	schestowitz[TR]	psydruid: the censorship examples I gave lately
[18:03]	schestowitz[TR]	are out of this world
[18:03]	schestowitz[TR]	twitter... and patents
[18:03]	schestowitz[TR]	mastodon is even worse than old twitter
[18:03]	schestowitz[TR]	it bans for even less
[18:03]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/today_s_howtos.2.gmi 
[18:03]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[18:03]	psydruid	I read the article at The Atlantic from a few days ago
[18:04]	schestowitz[TR]	in many ways we are already china
[18:04]	schestowitz[TR]	or trotting fast towards it
[18:04]	psydruid	an extract from Peter Turchin's new book
[18:04]	schestowitz[TR]	almost perfect match
[18:04]	schestowitz[TR]	people do not appreciate what they have
[18:04]	schestowitz[TR]	and attack speech
[18:04]	schestowitz[TR]	because they don't know how to argue
[18:04]	psydruid	I don't know who he is but I'll try to read some of his work over time
[18:04]	schestowitz[TR]	and think "feelings" are a protected thing
[18:05]	psydruid	yes
[18:05]	schestowitz[TR]	hitler felt betrayerd
[18:05]	schestowitz[TR]	by stalin
[18:05]	schestowitz[TR]	did not sue stalin
[18:05]	psydruid	what you wrote about black people in the US is true
[18:05]	schestowitz[TR]	they can talk
[18:05]	schestowitz[TR]	but within the allowed range
[18:05]	schestowitz[TR]	allowed by whites
[18:05]	schestowitz[TR]	the owners of the country
[18:05]	psydruid	my interactions with white US people are painful
[18:05]	psydruid	their racism is endemic
[18:06]	psydruid	not all of them but a certain subset exhibits terrible behaviour
[18:06]	schestowitz[TR]	depends where
[18:06]	schestowitz[TR]	not in more expensive places
[18:06]	psydruid	as Erik Engheim mentioned in one of his articles
[18:06]	schestowitz[TR]	which "brown people
[18:06]	schestowitz[TR]	" cannot afford to live in
[18:07]	schestowitz[TR]	so you end up in some shithole Texas town
[18:07]	schestowitz[TR]	where the blacks don't talk to whites
[18:07]	schestowitz[TR]	and whites don't talk to blacks
[18:07]	schestowitz[TR]	and everyone walks around with a revolver or something bigger in the car seat
[18:08]	psydruid	https://erik-engheim.medium.com/why-are-dakotans-not-like-scandinavians-70d917aa12e5
[18:08]	TR Bot	 Why are Dakotans Not Like Scandinavians? | by Erik Engheim | Medium
[18:09]	psydruid	in Europe racism is more subtle
[18:09]	schestowitz[TR]	Scandinavians hide it better
[18:09]	schestowitz[TR]	in uk people are terrified of being called racist
[18:09]	schestowitz[TR]	you can lose friends, job..
[18:09]	schestowitz[TR]	in the us it's more casual
[18:10]	schestowitz[TR]	you even vote for people like trump
[18:10]	schestowitz[TR]	who keeps hitler literature by his nbedside
[18:10]	schestowitz[TR]	like every normal person would
[18:10]	psydruid	https://www.metronieuws.nl/televisie/2023/06/arbeidsdiscriminatie-achternaam-raakt-zelfvertrouwen/
[18:10]	TR Bot	 Arbeidsdiscriminatie vanwege achternaam: 'Raakt je zelfvertrouwen'
[18:11]	psydruid	you can read it with google translate
[18:11]	schestowitz[TR]	but better if people hide itr
[18:11]	schestowitz[TR]	closeted 
[18:11]	schestowitz[TR]	not "in your face'
[18:11]	schestowitz[TR]	racism is natural
[18:12]	schestowitz[TR]	it's tribalism
[18:12]	psydruid	people change their names to even be considered for jobs
[18:12]	schestowitz[TR]	islanders identifyying who to trust
[18:12]	schestowitz[TR]	if not based on kinship
[18:12]	schestowitz[TR]	than appearance, dialect..
[18:12]	schestowitz[TR]	don't worry, trump supported will r ename them
[18:12]	schestowitz[TR]	or (((add echoes))
[18:13]	psydruid	if it is so natural you are clearly not a meritocracy and you don't hire the best people for the job
[18:13]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.thenation.com/article/society/jack-smith-trump-antisemitism/
[18:13]	TR Bot	 Donald Trump Sinks to a New Low by Dog-Whistling an Old Racist Tune | The Nation
[18:13]	psydruid	so quit pretending
[18:14]	schestowitz[TR]	"Insinuating that special prosecutor Jack Smith changed his name might seem like an odd tactic for someone whose family name was Drumpfunless you know the history.
[18:14]	schestowitz[TR]	"
[18:14]	schestowitz[TR]	Mein Drumpf
[18:15]	bnchs	psydruid: "my nephew doesn't think ryzen is great"
[18:15]	bnchs	"HOW DARE YOUR NEPHEW THINK THAT OF RYZEN"
[18:15]	bnchs	"YOUR WHOLE FAMILY IS BANNED"
[18:15]	schestowitz[TR]	BAN, sponsored by AMD(tm)
[18:15]	psydruid	bnchs: it's a new low
[18:16]	schestowitz[TR]	Ryzen is our own Tienanmen 
[18:16]	bnchs	well banning a relative of a ryzen-hater is a new low
[18:16]	schestowitz[TR]	corporate brand name
[18:16]	schestowitz[TR]	not places of massacres
[18:16]	bnchs	you might aswell just ban anyone related to that ryzen-hater
[18:16]	schestowitz[TR]	china state media: the west is wqorse
[18:16]	schestowitz[TR]	you cannot criticise merch
[18:17]	psydruid	I will write about this later on, but first I need to get some proper low-cost hardware (acquisition and operation)
[18:17]	psydruid	the only thing that works is self-hosting
[18:18]	bnchs	schestowitz[TR]: the sun shines over ryzen
[18:18]	psydruid	even if it's hosted on a VPS, you should always keep a local main server from where you can setup a new externally accessible server
[18:19]	psydruid	I've already been banned from r/amd for years
[18:19]	bnchs	lol i don't get these people getting all crazy over someone criticizing their
[18:19]	bnchs	glorified graphics accelerator card
[18:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[18:20]	schestowitz[TR]	lots of money at staker
[18:20]	schestowitz[TR]	reddit is a censorship company
[18:20]	schestowitz[TR]	with a GUI for the web and app
[18:20]	schestowitz[TR]	it filters information
[18:20]	schestowitz[TR]	for the sponsors
[18:20]	schestowitz[TR]	then offer APIs
[18:20]	schestowitz[TR]	for a fee
[18:20]	bnchs	the web GUI is shit
[18:20]	schestowitz[TR]	so you can train propaganda on their censored data set
[18:20]	bnchs	seriously, it has a ton of resource abuse
[18:20]	schestowitz[TR]	yyes
[18:20]	bnchs	use teddit
[18:20]	schestowitz[TR]	ther eis old.reddit.com
[18:20]	bnchs	yeah
[18:21]	schestowitz[TR]	but I'd just avoid the site altogether
[18:21]	psydruid	people like me hurt sponsors
[18:21]	psydruid	schestowitz hurts them much more
[18:21]	psydruid	which is why he and his wife need to be doxxed and fired from their jobs
[18:21]	TR News	Lunduke wasting time on Apple crap and hype https://lunduke.substack.com/p/lundukes-wwdc-mega-podcast-roundup
[18:21]	TR Bot	 Lunduke's WWDC Mega Podcast Roundup - by Bryan Lunduke
[18:22]	TR News	The Apple Vision Pro: designed to make you less happy https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-apple-vision-pro-designed-to
[18:22]	TR Bot	 The Apple Vision Pro: designed to make you less happy
[18:22]	bnchs	psydruid: worse
[18:22]	psydruid	they were evil to sponsors
[18:22]	bnchs	they probably have a wet dream of having schestowitz's entire family be publicly beheaded
[18:22]	psydruid	most likely
[18:23]	TR News	No! stop pushing this metaverse bullshit. sciencealert was good for a long time, stop pandering for anti-science cults like Apple (marketing and patent blackmail) https://www.sciencealert.com/is-apples-radical-new-vision-pro-really-the-future-of-computing
[18:23]	TR Bot	Apple's Radical New 'Vision Pro' Really The Future of Computing? : ScienceAlert
[18:24]	TR News	Did what? NOTHING. Hype. ICBM workers still shilling Apple crap, just like Virginia did (she destroyed the company). https://avi.alkalay.net/2023/06/apple-vision-pro.html
[18:24]	TR Bot	 Apple did it again with Vision Pro Avi Alkalay
[18:25]	schestowitz[TR]	bnchs: doxing my wife
[18:25]	schestowitz[TR]	to her booss
[18:25]	schestowitz[TR]	doxed by masturbating monkey, gulagboy
[18:25]	schestowitz[TR]	endorsed by drpizza et al
[18:27]	TR News	sciencealert really should have known better. Posting Apple's SPAM? Not even connected to the site's focus.
[18:27]	MinceR	07 191619 < bnchs> you might aswell just ban anyone related to that ryzen-hater
[18:28]	MinceR	a human hates ryzen => ban all humans
[18:28]	TR News	MIT "technology" review is already dying. It sold web estate to Microsoft and worse. Trashed the site. Tarnished MIT's name. Who next? MTR has not published much recently, probably got defunded or something.
[18:28]	bnchs	MinceR: there would still be users left
[18:28]	bnchs	because they are not human
[18:29]	MinceR	:3
[18:30]	MinceR	could ban all eukarya then
[18:30]	schestowitz[TR]	ban all men
[18:30]	schestowitz[TR]	ban all women
[18:30]	schestowitz[TR]	gulagboy and buffy remain alive as zombies
[18:30]	schestowitz[TR]	"i'm, alllliiive, igor"
[18:30]	psydruid	gulagbot and buffybot
[18:31]	schestowitz[TR]	endorsed by pedos
[18:31]	schestowitz[TR]	like drpizza
[18:31]	psydruid	buffy the pizza slice cutter
[18:31]	TR News	of course MTR also did some spam for Apple https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/06/06/1074082/apple-vision-pro-app-developers/ and again later: https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/06/06/1074091/the-download-apples-headset-challenges-and-what-ai-can-learn-from-nuclear-safety/
[18:31]	TR Bot	 Apple will need to convince developers to build apps for its headset | MIT Technology Review
[18:31]	TR Bot	 Apple's headset challenges, and what AI can learn from nuclear safety | MIT Technology Review
[18:32]	schestowitz[TR]	btw, you know what "pizza" is, right?
[18:32]	schestowitz[TR]	it's pedo term
[18:32]	schestowitz[TR]	like "map" and "cheese"
[18:32]	psydruid	yes
[18:32]	schestowitz[TR]	gulagboy targets daemonfc
[18:33]	schestowitz[TR]	which means daemonfc hurts GAFAM and co
[18:33]	schestowitz[TR]	starts asking him about child pr0n
[18:33]	schestowitz[TR]	distracts from BIll gates employing pedos at home
[18:33]	schestowitz[TR]	shifting around CP videos on portable drivers
[18:33]	schestowitz[TR]	ddriver, plural
[18:33]	schestowitz[TR]	the police report has the inventory
[18:33]	schestowitz[TR]	and number of CP objects identified on each
[18:34]	psydruid	I should send you what Helios sent me in private
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR]	i didn't releaase all 3000 pages
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR]	as some have CP hashes
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR]	hashes are not pictures
[18:34]	psydruid	if I still have it somewhere
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR]	but they can help pedophiles hide
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR]	Helios ken starks
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR]	?
[18:34]	psydruid	I never responded but he was talking about these things
[18:34]	psydruid	no, this guy who came to the channel
[18:34]	schestowitz[TR]	ah, ok
[18:35]	psydruid	a year or two ago
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR]	any random person can come here
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR]	even drpizza kept coming
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR]	ewww
[18:35]	psydruid	when they talked about CP
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR]	inside kids
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR]	we talked him awaay
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR]	he was never wanted her
[18:35]	schestowitz[TR]	we didn't know yet he had been raping kids
[18:36]	psydruid	it was the same period in which gulagbot was trying to set up daemonfc
[18:36]	psydruid	some coordinated action
[18:36]	schestowitz[TR]	wrongthink
[18:36]	schestowitz[TR]	ask BS question
[18:36]	schestowitz[TR]	or change the subject
[18:36]	schestowitz[TR]	to finction
[18:36]	schestowitz[TR]	wait for someone to utter "wrongthink"
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR]	not even non P-C
[18:37]	psydruid	gulagbot should be widely exposed for this
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR]	truth is treason 
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR]	china and russia do this in interrogation
[18:37]	psydruid	and his life and his career destroyed
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR]	it's questions you cannot answer
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR]	because any way you answer them, you are "gross"
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR]	his career is finished already
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR]	his company is finished
[18:37]	schestowitz[TR]	caliifornia passed a law
[18:38]	schestowitz[TR]	it's illegal for aurora to do those trucks there
[18:38]	schestowitz[TR]	and the company earns 10 tims less than it spends
[18:38]	psydruid	then all we can hope for is that he finally stabs himself
[18:38]	psydruid	and puts an end to his miserable life
[18:38]	schestowitz[TR]	he cannot even do that
[18:38]	psydruid	he's too much of a coward for that
[18:38]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/17091030
[18:38]	TR Bot	 WHOOPSIE
[18:38]	schestowitz[TR]	anyway, back on topoc
[18:39]	schestowitz[TR]	so about ryzen
[18:39]	psydruid	he can only stab debian volunteers
[18:39]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe the user said things prior
[18:39]	schestowitz[TR]	and the context like posting history matters
[18:39]	psydruid	they do turn a blind eye towards astroturfers
[18:40]	psydruid	as if those are implicitly allowed
[18:40]	psydruid	which they most likely are
[18:40]	schestowitz[TR]	they are what's know as
[18:40]	schestowitz[TR]	"advertiser-friendly"
[18:40]	schestowitz[TR]	there was recently an article about this
[18:40]	schestowitz[TR]	sites like twitter.com and MSM
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR]	they have a sixth sense
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR]	"advertiser-froiendly
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR]	write text, offend no potential sponros
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR]	datamation did this to me
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR]	removed things I wrote in my own articles
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR]	if they did not flatter Microsoft
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR]	later came Microsoft ads
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR]	so you know what you could not say
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR]	no point even typijng it
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR]	as it would be removed by the editor
[18:41]	schestowitz[TR]	hence, self-censorship
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR]	that was 2007
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR]	boycotttnovell was young
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR]	datametion is not a stale content farm
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR]	*mation
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR]	*now
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR]	good riddance
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR]	sometimes they bribe Microsoft Enderle in
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR]	for some casual lies
[18:42]	schestowitz[TR]	when Micrrosoft has a crisis
[18:43]	psydruid	Microsoft = underhanded spying malware corporation
[18:43]	psydruid	write this and it will be removed, guaranteed
[18:43]	psydruid	I will keep writing it, maybe using a different wording
[18:44]	TR News	No, not specifically for Zimbabwe; with a price point like this only a paid shill in Zimbabwe would relay the lie https://www.techzim.co.zw/2023/06/apple-laptop-specifically-for-zim-18-hour-battery-more-from-wwdc-2023/
[18:44]	TR Bot	 Apple makes laptop 'specifically for Zimbabwe' with 18-hour battery life. This and more from Apple developer conference - Techzim
[18:44]	psydruid	why not tell the truth
[18:45]	TR News	No! We heard this in the 1990s!! We heard it 20 years ago. Remember Google Glass? What about METAVERSE? ENOUGH WITH THIS PAID-FOR dross disguised as "journalism" https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/06/apple-vision-pro-ar-headset-metaverse/674303/
[18:45]	TR Bot	 Apple Has Unleashed the Goggle Age - The Atlantic
[18:45]	TR News	"A decade after Facebook bought Oculus, VR still has no appeal except as an expensive novelty toy." https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/m7bbga/apples-vision-pro-augmented-virtual-reality-h
[18:45]	TR Bot	 Apples Vision Pro Is a $3,500 Ticket to Nowhere
[18:46]	TR News	Paid for 'exclusive' "review"... likely with embargo and conditions, i.e. PURE SPAM!! https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/technology/personaltech/apple-vision-pro-headset-try.html
[18:46]	TR Bot	 A First Try of Apples $3,500 Vision Pro Headset - The New York Times
[18:47]	TR News	Why? THEY PAY YOU! BRIBED. NY Times... ads by Apple. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/technology/apple-mixed-reality-vision-pro.html
[18:47]	TR Bot	 Why I Cant Bet Against Apples Vision Pro - The New York Times
[18:49]	TR News	SPAM SPAM SPAM... THREE times in one day... PAID SPAM for the SAME SHITTY, overhyped "product" https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/style/apple-vision-pro-vr-headset.html Apple the master of SPAM SPAM SPAM. FB also paid a lot of media to SPAM SPAM SPAM "metaverse"... now Microsoft does that with a worse-than-useless chatbot, misframed as "HEY HI" (it is now)
[18:49]	TR Bot	 Would You Wear Apples New Vision Pro Headset? - The New York Times
[18:49]	TR News	The New York Times = part-time spam rag, some war propaganda for empire on the side, always Wall Street propaganda, telling us that a tanking economy is actually doing very well!
[18:51]	TR News	Small fine and not a single person sentenced to prison, so they can do it again (more secretly) https://qz.com/microsoft-to-pay-20-mn-childrens-privacy-violation-1850509448
[18:51]	TR Bot	 Microsoft will pay $20 million for violating children's privacy
[18:51]	TR News	VDPP video codec patent challenged in reexam https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2023/6/6/vdpp-video-codec-patent-challenged-in-reexam Software Patent: "The '444 patent generally relates to processing image frames from a video stream and generating bridge frames for motion smoothing."
[18:51]	TR Bot	 VDPP video codec patent challenged in reexam Unified Patents
[18:53]	TR News	When Microsoft managers arne't busy having sex with kids they're watching the kids, illegally https://www.reuters.com/technology/microsoft-pay-20-mln-settle-charges-it-collected-childrens-information-2023-06-05/ http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/
[18:53]	TR Bot	to pay $20 million to settle US charges for violating children's privacy | Reuters
[18:53]	TR Bot	 Speaking Through Spokespeople is a Sign of Weakness, Such as Non-Denying and False Denials (or: Bill Gates Never Denied His Connections to MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein) | Techrights
[18:53]	psydruid	Microsoft the child exploitation company
[18:54]	psydruid	for free pizza and pictures
[18:54]	TR News	The real news is that it was down for a very long time, not that it is "back up" https://www.reuters.com/technology/microsoft-365-down-thousands-users-downdetector-2023-06-05/
[18:54]	TR Bot	365 services back up after hours of outage | Reuters
[18:55]	schestowitz[TR]	bill gates staff passed CP through microsoft
[18:55]	schestowitz[TR]	and microsoft did not report it
[18:55]	schestowitz[TR]	eventually he used gmail too
[18:55]	schestowitz[TR]	and gulag did report it
[18:55]	schestowitz[TR]	not microsoft
[18:55]	schestowitz[TR]	microsoft was ok with kids being ***ed
[18:55]	schestowitz[TR]	in plan text
[18:55]	schestowitz[TR]	emails in microsoft's own network
[18:55]	schestowitz[TR]	we have prooof
[18:55]	schestowitz[TR]	the police report
[18:56]	psydruid	https://old.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/13xpf8u/how_do_i_get_rid_of_this_pride_flag/
[18:56]	TR Bot	 How do I get rid of this pride flag??? : Windows11
[18:56]	schestowitz[TR]	that would be a hate crime
[18:56]	psydruid	everything in the US seems to be about identity politics these days
[18:57]	schestowitz[TR]	the ruling class likes it
[18:57]	schestowitz[TR]	men hating women
[18:57]	schestowitz[TR]	women hating men
[18:57]	schestowitz[TR]	90% hating LGBTR
[18:57]	schestowitz[TR]	LGBT tryign to cancel everyone
[18:57]	schestowitz[TR]	blacks not trusting whites
[18:57]	schestowitz[TR]	white cops shooting  blacks for no real reason
[18:57]	schestowitz[TR]	and the rich get richer
[18:57]	schestowitz[TR]	they don't care
[18:57]	schestowitz[TR]	all the above need foot
[18:57]	schestowitz[TR]	pay rent
[18:58]	schestowitz[TR]	borrow money
[18:58]	schestowitz[TR]	pay it back with 10% interest
[18:58]	schestowitz[TR]	for the "financial sector"
[18:58]	schestowitz[TR]	the corporations st flap a rainbow flag
[18:58]	schestowitz[TR]	in one web page
[18:58]	bnchs	psydruid: that pride flag looks wrong
[18:58]	schestowitz[TR]	with "DEI" or something
[18:58]	schestowitz[TR]	and pay a salary toi rally around scum like gulagboy
[18:58]	schestowitz[TR]	to shut up people who focus on issues
[18:58]	bnchs	honestly
[18:59]	schestowitz[TR]	rainbows are just rainbows
[18:59]	bnchs	that pride flag's shades look really wrong
[18:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[18:59]	schestowitz[TR]	they became "divisive['
[18:59]	schestowitz[TR]	prism is "gay"
[18:59]	schestowitz[TR]	after the rain comes a symbol
[18:59]	schestowitz[TR]	related to sex?
[18:59]	bnchs	how the fuck did they fuck up the pride flag on windows
[18:59]	bnchs	that's not even the pride flag, it looks like it was made by colorblind devs
[18:59]	schestowitz[TR]	let the peasants wrestle each other over it 
● Jun 07
[19:00]	schestowitz[TR]	so that they all stayt poro
[19:00]	schestowitz[TR]	and divided
[19:00]	schestowitz[TR]	and hating those "other people"
[19:00]	schestowitz[TR]	 but not their "masters"
[19:00]	schestowitz[TR]	reddit stirring shit up over nothing
[19:00]	schestowitz[TR]	"what is wrong with vista 11?"
[19:01]	schestowitz[TR]	it has a rainbow flag that isn't even a rainbow flag"
[19:01]	schestowitz[TR]	"ah, OK< then... nothing to see here, Windows is puuuurfect"
[19:01]	schestowitz[TR]	classic PR BS
[19:01]	schestowitz[TR]	like with the test vaccines in 2021
[19:01]	bnchs	yes of course
[19:01]	psydruid	deflection?
[19:02]	schestowitz[TR]	where  the media amplified all this "modifies your DNA"
[19:02]	schestowitz[TR]	distracting from the legit sceptics
[19:02]	schestowitz[TR]	and they still do that, I saw an example today
[19:02]	bnchs	because the rainbow flag has red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, pink, blue, brown, black
[19:02]	schestowitz[TR]	<techrights-news> The old straw man. The vaccines can be shit for other, plausible reasons. There are even academic papers about the ruinous side effects. https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2023/06/06/return-of-the-revenge-of-vaccines-permanently-alter-your-dna/ |
[19:02]	TR Bot	 Return of the revenge of "vaccines permanently alter your DNA" - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE
[19:02]	schestowitz[TR]	"oh, u one of them people who think bill gates is a REPTILE??"
[19:02]	bnchs	they didn't even give a shit enough for the flag, that's how you know they're only in it for the money and profits
[19:03]	schestowitz[TR]	anyway, reddit is trash
[19:03]	schestowitz[TR]	and it has layoffs
[19:03]	schestowitz[TR]	good riddance
[19:03]	schestowitz[TR]	and the slaves there rebel
[19:03]	schestowitz[TR]	aka "moderators"
[19:03]	schestowitz[TR]	slaves
[19:03]	schestowitz[TR]	working for Conde Nasty
[19:03]	schestowitz[TR]	Wall Stree5t based firm
[19:03]	schestowitz[TR]	marketing firm
[19:04]	TR News	"Well, he is dead" -Bill Gates https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2023-06-02/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-newly-obtained-documents https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/16/business/bill-melinda-gates-divorce-epstein.html
[19:04]	TR Bot	 Documents reveal new details of Jeffrey Epstein's death - Los Angeles Times
[19:04]	TR Bot	 Bill Gates Had Reputation for Questionable Behavior Before Divorce - The New York Times
[19:04]	TR News	What about Bill Gates? Too big to jail? https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/05/23/epstein-lawsuit-jpmorgan-billionaires/
[19:04]	TR Bot	 How Bill Gates, other billionaires are tied to Jeffrey Epsteins cases - The Washington Post
[19:07]	MinceR	too rich for the laws to apply
[19:07]	TR News	<li><h5><a href="http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Linux-Mint-Finally-Receiving-Support-for-Gestures">Linux Mint Finally Receiving Support for Gestures</a></h5><blockquote><p>If you use the Linux Mint Cinnamon desktop, you'll be thrilled to know that 21.2 is getting support for gestures on touchscreen devices and touchpads.</p></blockquote></li>
[19:07]	TR Bot	timed out after 10001 milliseconds with 0 out of 0 bytes received ( status 0 @ https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Linux-Mint-Finally-Receiving-Support-for-Gestures )
[19:07]	TR News	Linux Mint Finally Receiving Support for Gestures http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Linux-Mint-Finally-Receiving-Support-for-Gestures
[19:09]	schestowitz[TR]	"I can get very epensive lawyers who are friend with all the judges and politicians"
[19:09]	schestowitz[TR]	*friends
[19:10]	TR News	HPLIP 3.23.5 Released with Driver for Many More HP Printers & Scanners https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2023/06/hplip-3-23-5-released/
[19:10]	TR Bot	 HPLIP 3.23.5 Released with Driver for Many More HP Printers & Scanners | UbuntuHandbook
[19:10]	schestowitz[TR]	Sirius worked for governmentr agencies
[19:10]	schestowitz[TR]	so less incentive to hold them accountable
[19:10]	schestowitz[TR]	but I escalate to about 10 levels
[19:10]	schestowitz[TR]	and it only gets worse for them
[19:10]	schestowitz[TR]	as it exposes the chain of cover-up
[19:10]	schestowitz[TR]	and thus culpability
[19:11]	schestowitz[TR]	the risk here is,
[19:11]	schestowitz[TR]	they can try to frmae me with something
[19:11]	schestowitz[TR]	to silence
[19:12]	TR News	The Garden gemini://lesogorov.site/glogs/2306/The-Garden.gmi
[19:12]	schestowitz[TR]	let's check email
[19:12]	schestowitz[TR]	been 2 days sincer I last checke,d maybe MP wrote back
[19:13]	TR News	Steam Client Beta update fixes crashes on Linux when using Nvidia GPUs https://www.neowin.net/news/steam-client-beta-update-fixes-crashes-on-linux-when-using-nvidia-gpus/
[19:13]	TR Bot	 Steam Client Beta update fixes crashes on Linux when using Nvidia GPUs - Neowin
[19:13]	schestowitz[TR]	reminder: bill gates bribed sirius
[19:13]	schestowitz[TR]	under NDA
[19:13]	schestowitz[TR]	only the CEO knows what happened
[19:13]	schestowitz[TR]	and why 
[19:13]	schestowitz[TR]	in 2019
[19:13]	schestowitz[TR]	then they started bullying rianne and myself
[19:14]	schestowitz[TR]	>      > Roy, please confirm. Is the BTC donation to which you refer the
[19:14]	schestowitz[TR]	>      > "Pineapple Fund"?
[19:14]	schestowitz[TR]	> 
[19:14]	schestowitz[TR]	>     It is the only one that I know about.
[19:14]	schestowitz[TR]	> 
[19:14]	schestowitz[TR]	> 
[19:14]	schestowitz[TR]	> OK.
[19:14]	schestowitz[TR]	FSF got a load of money
[19:14]	schestowitz[TR]	and then things went wrong
[19:14]	schestowitz[TR]	some insiders reckon it could be related
[19:15]	schestowitz[TR]	throw a million bucks into an org
[19:15]	schestowitz[TR]	doubling its funds
[19:15]	schestowitz[TR]	and watch people fight
[19:16]	bnchs	schestowitz[TR]: did they donate to you?
[19:16]	bnchs	i mean ahem.. "donate" to you
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR]	no
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR]	in 2019
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR]	bill gates bribed my boss
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR]	after in 2016 msft had pressured him to punish me
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR]	for criticising microsoft crimes
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR]	i don't know what gates paid for
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR]	but that became a "first US client"
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR]	what ffor? they never said
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR]	then thhe company registered in the us
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR]	and the CEO fled
[19:17]	schestowitz[TR]	to WA state
[19:18]	schestowitz[TR]	it all staretd with the pervert bill
[19:18]	schestowitz[TR]	and why would they pay a british company?
[19:18]	schestowitz[TR]	based only in the  uk?
[19:18]	schestowitz[TR]	muscle move
[19:18]	schestowitz[TR]	getting gruip over things using money
[19:18]	bnchs	lol
[19:19]	bnchs	company registered in the US so the CEO can run to washington?
[19:19]	schestowitz[TR]	yes
[19:19]	schestowitz[TR]	he runs away from his crimes here
[19:19]	schestowitz[TR]	he robbed many staff
[19:19]	schestowitz[TR]	pension fraud
[19:19]	schestowitz[TR]	and runs away from wives and  daughters
[19:19]	schestowitz[TR]	he's a fugitive
[19:19]	schestowitz[TR]	karate black belt
[19:19]	schestowitz[TR]	fat man who speaks BS to people
[19:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[19:20]	schestowitz[TR]	with body odor
[19:20]	schestowitz[TR]	almost everyone lef thte company by now
[19:20]	bnchs	jesus christ
[19:20]	schestowitz[TR]	and now the british regime covers it all up
[19:20]	bnchs	he's the CEO of the company
[19:20]	schestowitz[TR]	so I escalate more and more
[19:20]	schestowitz[TR]	who's there?
[19:20]	bnchs	but he'll never be the CEO of the shower
[19:20]	schestowitz[TR]	"we don't know you"
[19:20]	schestowitz[TR]	"oh, you again"
[19:21]	schestowitz[TR]	i reckon it's barely better than Morocco
[19:21]	schestowitz[TR]	but we have better "marketing"
[19:21]	schestowitz[TR]	so it sounds like a system that's not dynfunctionalk
[19:21]	schestowitz[TR]	*disfunctional
[19:21]	schestowitz[TR]	*diysfunctional
[19:21]	schestowitz[TR]	agh
[19:21]	schestowitz[TR]	never mind, i need to sit to type
[19:22]	schestowitz[TR]	<bnchs> but he'll never be the CEO of the shower
[19:22]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe
[19:22]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe that's a reason for divorce lol
[19:22]	schestowitz[TR]	it won't help
[19:23]	schestowitz[TR]	> Hi Roy:
[19:23]	schestowitz[TR]	> 
[19:23]	schestowitz[TR]	>      > So I gather that Sirius is no longer in existence? Is your current
[19:23]	schestowitz[TR]	>      > employer the University of Manchester?
[19:23]	schestowitz[TR]	> 
[19:23]	schestowitz[TR]	>     No, I do Techrights 'full time' now.
[19:23]	schestowitz[TR]	> 
[19:23]	schestowitz[TR]	> 
[19:23]	schestowitz[TR]	> Curious to know how Techrights generates revenue then. Is your wife also 
[19:23]	schestowitz[TR]	> employed to Techrights?
[19:23]	schestowitz[TR]	Techrights is not a company. It never was. It only costs money.
[19:23]	schestowitz[TR]	gulagboy, tyhe microsoft shill, apparently doxxed my wife
[19:23]	schestowitz[TR]	and me also
[19:23]	schestowitz[TR]	becaue you cannot criticise criminals
[19:23]	schestowitz[TR]	and "get away with it"
[19:23]	schestowitz[TR]	they send threats to you
[19:23]	schestowitz[TR]	they contacttt the boss
[19:24]	schestowitz[TR]	they attack the foot on the table
[19:24]	schestowitz[TR]	and then use "SJW" flair in REDDIT
[19:24]	schestowitz[TR]	to signal how righteous they are
[19:24]	schestowitz[TR]	attacking women
[19:24]	schestowitz[TR]	lookign for sex in FOSS confeerences
[19:24]	schestowitz[TR]	saying transphobic things for decades
[19:24]	schestowitz[TR]	and working for companies that kill people
[19:24]	schestowitz[TR]	anyway... back to my email...
[19:24]	bnchs	transphobic?
[19:25]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/matthew-garrett-transphobic/
[19:25]	TR Bot	 Matthew Garrett Admits Being a Transphobic Adult Before Choosing to Weaponise This to Defame and Then Cancel People Who Arent Transphobic | Techrights
[19:25]	schestowitz[TR]	he uses trans people as 
[19:25]	schestowitz[TR]	1) political props
[19:25]	schestowitz[TR]	2) sex objects
[19:25]	schestowitz[TR]	(for him)
[19:25]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/shower-thoughts-about-the-midwest-4.jpg
[19:25]	schestowitz[TR]	he's using them ina  way that hurts them
[19:26]	schestowitz[TR]	their cause
[19:26]	schestowitz[TR]	and empties his balls on them
[19:26]	schestowitz[TR]	that's what trans people mean to him
[19:26]	schestowitz[TR]	and he has the audacity to call people "phobic"
[19:26]	bnchs	that's weird, i'm.... nevermind
[19:26]	schestowitz[TR]	while demanding I ban a gay man
[19:27]	schestowitz[TR]	email done
[19:27]	schestowitz[TR]	back to links now
[19:27]	schestowitz[TR]	the police is not responding to my MP
[19:27]	schestowitz[TR]	that's ANOTHER scandal
[19:29]	TR News	https://planet.debian.org/rss20.xml Tue, 06 Jun 2023 21:00:34 +0000 Steinar H. Gunderson: Faster accurate range reduction
[19:29]	TR News	"Pretty much everybody who learns geometry and trigonometry starts off by representing angles in degrees. One circle is 360 degrees; it's a bit of a strange number, but it's highly composite (so a lot of fractions can be represented as whole numbers) and has traditions supposedly going back to the Babylonians." http://blog.sesse.net/blog/tech/2023-06-06-22-14_faster_accurate_range_reduction.html
[19:29]	TR Bot	 Steinar H. Gunderson
[19:30]	AdmFubar	https://arstechnica.com/?p=1946111
[19:30]	TR Bot	 Twitch bans stream sponsor overlays, and Ive never seen creators so pissed | Ars Technica
[19:31]	schestowitz[TR]	their sponsors are
[19:31]	schestowitz[TR]	tucker
[19:31]	schestowitz[TR]	and deNaztist
[19:31]	schestowitz[TR]	no choice on the matter
[19:31]	schestowitz[TR]	that's in twitter
[19:32]	schestowitz[TR]	they need to accept twitch sponsors too
[19:32]	schestowitz[TR]	"platforms" tend to be like that
[19:32]	schestowitz[TR]	ebay also
[19:32]	schestowitz[TR]	you must only advertise the master
[19:32]	schestowitz[TR]	and the master's adverrtisers
[19:32]	schestowitz[TR]	no "in video" ads
[19:32]	schestowitz[TR]	except the platform's
[19:32]	schestowitz[TR]	or they ban you
[19:32]	schestowitz[TR]	or demonetises
[19:32]	schestowitz[TR]	or demonetise
[19:33]	schestowitz[TR]	so they can get their commissions
[19:33]	AdmFubar	https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/over-60-000-android-apps-secretly-installed-adware-for-past-six-months/
[19:33]	schestowitz[TR]	in youtube, some of the ads are 100 percent alphabet gulag
[19:33]	TR Bot	 Over 60,000 Android apps secretly installed adware for past six months
[19:33]	schestowitz[TR]	you get paid 0% 
[19:33]	schestowitz[TR]	for the ads in the video YOU made
[19:33]	schestowitz[TR]	Gulag takes all the money
[19:33]	schestowitz[TR]	you are just a slave in the Gulag platform
[19:33]	schestowitz[TR]	and this is considered "generocituy
[19:33]	schestowitz[TR]	"free hosting"
[19:33]	schestowitz[TR]	and your audience subjected to annoying ads
[19:33]	schestowitz[TR]	that cannot be skipped
[19:34]	TR News	How To Install Elasticsearch on Fedora 38 https://idroot.us/install-elasticsearch-fedora-38/
[19:34]	TR Bot	 How To Install Elasticsearch on Fedora 38 - idroot
[19:35]	schestowitz[TR]	at sirius we had a colleague who kept saying, google is your friend
[19:35]	schestowitz[TR]	and outsourced some of the company to it
[19:35]	schestowitz[TR]	even some of the clients!!
[19:35]	schestowitz[TR]	costly mistake
[19:35]	bagirionaire	what is sirius
[19:35]	schestowitz[TR]	that';s the guy who brought 3 sexual partners to our company
[19:35]	schestowitz[TR]	3 girls
[19:35]	schestowitz[TR]	his sexual partners
[19:36]	bnchs	wtf
[19:36]	schestowitz[TR]	gave them a job there
[19:36]	bnchs	schestowitz[TR]: was he a pimp?
[19:36]	schestowitz[TR]	none of them had background in CS or even close
[19:36]	bagirionaire	im sure they gave him a few jobs back
[19:36]	schestowitz[TR]	bnchs: don't ask
[19:36]	schestowitz[TR]	he was doing thw word
[19:36]	schestowitz[TR]	they shadowed
[19:36]	schestowitz[TR]	*work
[19:36]	bagirionaire	https://youtu.be/8z8SpgmF0sA
[19:36]	TR Bot	https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=8z8SpgmF0sA
[19:36]	TR Bot	yt.artemislena.eu | It's Good to be the King / Mel Brooks / History of the World 1981 - Invidious
[19:37]	schestowitz[TR]	and now the great and just british legal system protects... well clients
[19:37]	schestowitz[TR]	of sirius
[19:37]	schestowitz[TR]	as it would be embarassing 
[19:37]	schestowitz[TR]	when he gets arrested
[19:37]	schestowitz[TR]	and i open up some more infoo
[19:37]	bagirionaire	https://youtu.be/9DxJ-zUtl60
[19:37]	TR Bot	https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=9DxJ-zUtl60
[19:37]	schestowitz[TR]	and then even gates foundation needs some PR-ing
[19:37]	TR Bot	not resolve host: invidious.osi.kr; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=9DxJ-zUtl60 )
[19:37]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe one day we can see what bthe NDA was
[19:37]	schestowitz[TR]	and what it said
[19:38]	schestowitz[TR]	thought it's again risk
[19:39]	schestowitz[TR]	doing this to the "well, he's dead" person
[19:39]	schestowitz[TR]	who boasted about the death
[19:39]	schestowitz[TR]	after visiting the guy in PRISON
[19:39]	TR News	Fedora Community Blog: Flock 2023 CfP open now until 20 June https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/flock-2023-cfp-open-now-until-20-june/
[19:39]	TR Bot	 Flock 2023 CfP open now until 20 June Fedora Community Blog
[19:40]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2023/01/18/bill-gates-nda/
[19:40]	TR Bot	 [Meme] It Was Never the Same After Bill Gates Paid the Sirius CEO Under a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA) | Techrights
[19:40]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2023/04/18/gates-non-disclosure-agreement/
[19:40]	TR Bot	 [Meme] We May Never Know What Bill Gates Paid Sirius Boss to Do in 2019 (Under a Strict Non-Disclosure Agreement) | Techrights
[19:40]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2023/04/18/nda-from-bill-gates/
[19:40]	TR Bot	 What Happened Months Before Seattle Police Sent Almost 3,000 Pages About Its Arrest for Pedophilia at Home of Bill Gates | Techrights
[19:40]	schestowitz[TR]	more in http://techrights.org/wiki/Gates_Foundation_Critique#2023
[19:40]	TR Bot	 Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights
[19:41]	TR News	Fedora Community Blog: Community Blog monthly summary: May 2023 https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/community-blog-monthly-summary-may-2023/
[19:41]	TR Bot	 Community Blog monthly summary: May 2023 Fedora Community Blog
[19:41]	schestowitz[TR]	<schestowitz[TR]> they shadowed
[19:41]	schestowitz[TR]	<schestowitz[TR]> *work
[19:41]	schestowitz[TR]	<bagirionaire> https://youtu.be/8z8SpgmF0sA
[19:41]	schestowitz[TR]	yes, hisn  surname is King
[19:41]	schestowitz[TR]	I said "Kink"
[19:42]	schestowitz[TR]	several colleagues loved the name twist
[19:42]	bagirionaire	ooh la laaa oh yes its good to be the king
[19:44]	TR News	Armbian 23.05 Released, Based on Debian 12 https://www.omglinux.com/armbian-23-05-released/
[19:44]	TR Bot	 Armbian 23.05 Released, Based on Debian 12 - OMG! Linux
[19:45]	TR News	Journalists walk out: Hundreds strike against major paper chain https://www.csmonitor.com/Business/2023/0606/Journalists-walk-out-Hundreds-strike-against-major-paper-chain
[19:45]	TR Bot	of Gannett journalists strike to demand leadership change - CSMonitor.com
[19:46]	TR News	King Macron can rob anyone, as long as the banksters who run the country stand to benefit from this robbery https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2023/0606/French-pension-protests-enter-day-14-Fatigue-high-thousands-remain
[19:46]	TR Bot	pension protests: One last bid to stop retirement age increase - CSMonitor.com
[19:47]	TR News	NY Times giving LOTS of free press not just to Trump but also other GOP politicians. Not a clue how to avoid advertising.
[19:48]	TR News	US became China https://www.csmonitor.com/Business/2023/0606/Get-a-job-After-100-years-states-loosen-child-labor-laws
[19:48]	TR Bot	a job: After 100 years, states loosen child labor laws - CSMonitor.com
[19:48]	schestowitz[TR]	psydruid: ^
[19:48]	schestowitz[TR]	one new example
[19:48]	schestowitz[TR]	among many more, as noted or alluded to earlier
[19:49]	schestowitz[TR]	free market capitalism
[19:49]	schestowitz[TR]	freedom to make kids work
[19:49]	schestowitz[TR]	1950s: dad works
[19:49]	schestowitz[TR]	1980s mom and dad work
[19:49]	schestowitz[TR]	2020: mom and dad and kids work
[19:49]	schestowitz[TR]	for the same salary as in 1950
[19:50]	schestowitz[TR]	now the gropers and sociopaths get 4 people fore the price of one
[19:50]	schestowitz[TR]	and get richer
[19:50]	schestowitz[TR]	it's a free market MIRACLE :D
[19:51]	TR News	Peter Hutterer: snegg - Python bindings for libei http://who-t.blogspot.com/2023/06/snegg-python-bindings-for-libei.html
[19:51]	TR Bot	 Who-T: snegg - Python bindings for libei
[19:52]	psydruid	https://files.epi.org/2013/ib388-figurea.jpg
[19:52]	psydruid	https://www.epi.org/publication/charting-wage-stagnation/
[19:52]	TR Bot	 Wage Stagnation in Nine Charts | Economic Policy Institute
[19:52]	psydruid	broken economic system
[19:53]	schestowitz[TR]	2013
[19:53]	schestowitz[TR]	not 2023
[19:53]	schestowitz[TR]	ther surplus is the robber barons
[19:53]	schestowitz[TR]	and the money is vanished fromm the economy
[19:53]	schestowitz[TR]	in a shadow banking 'system'
[19:53]	schestowitz[TR]	2012 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-offshore-wealth-idUSBRE86L03U20120722
[19:53]	TR Bot	rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens | Reuters
[19:53]	schestowitz[TR]	after that we don't have such data
[19:54]	schestowitz[TR]	they killed and defunded journalism too
[19:54]	schestowitz[TR]	gave us social control media
[19:54]	schestowitz[TR]	socially controlled and censored
[19:54]	schestowitz[TR]	with brigades of corporate shills
[19:54]	schestowitz[TR]	to cancel the exposers
[19:55]	TR News	Nobody wants to hire Microsofters https://www.moneycontrol.com/europe/?url=https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/trends/microsoft-layoffs-over-1000-applications-not-1-job-offer-tech-engineer-10758621.html
[19:55]	TR Bot	 Over 1,000 applications but not 1 job offer: Tech engineer on life after Microsoft layoff
[19:55]	psydruid	they have more recent publications, but this is the one I found with a quick search
[19:56]	schestowitz[TR]	it's transphobic to want a just system
[19:56]	psydruid	Microsofter = billybot = undesired
[19:56]	schestowitz[TR]	it si also ableist
[19:56]	schestowitz[TR]	and sexist
[19:56]	schestowitz[TR]	abortion is ableist
[19:56]	schestowitz[TR]	according to "liberal" corporate liars
[19:57]	schestowitz[TR]	today RMS said people who do proctoring software should be arrested
[19:57]	schestowitz[TR]	but they control the system
[19:57]	schestowitz[TR]	he xplained Citizens United
[19:58]	psydruid	you probably remember when windows updated itself and broke the proctoring software for an exam of mine
[19:58]	bnchs	lol
[19:59]	TR News	Microsoft propaganda and censorship networks. Did Microsoft reduce the subsidies? https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/reddit-to-lay-off-about-5-of-its-workforce/articleshow/100808910.cms
[19:59]	TR Bot	 Reddit Layoff: Reddit lays off 5% of its workforce, to reduce hiring - The Economic Times
[19:59]	psydruid	so I couldn't do the exam
[19:59]	psydruid	fortunately I had already passed the course, but we didn't get grades until a week later
[19:59]	TR News	Microsofts 9th Outage in 2023 https://devops.com/microsoft-365-outage-rise-risc-v-meta-wfh-richixbw/ after just 5 months!!
[19:59]	TR Bot	9th Outage in 2023 RISE of RISC-V Meta Ends WFH - DevOps.com
● Jun 07
[20:00]	TR News	Layoffs Continue: Now This Company Is Reducing 3% Jobs From Its Global Workforce https://www.news18.com/business/layoff-job-cuts-news-today-zoominfo-8018257.html
[20:00]	TR Bot	 Layoffs Continue: Now This Company Is Reducing 3% Jobs From Its Global Workforce
[20:00]		*starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights
[20:01]	TR News	Stopping culture wars in their tracks: How one city did it https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Education/2023/0606/Stopping-culture-wars-in-their-tracks-How-one-city-did-it
[20:01]	TR Bot	this Ohio city stopped culture war over schools - CSMonitor.com
[20:02]	TR News	CIPA is corrupt and it lobbies for crimes. Why does it run an exam??? "How I wish this case had come out just a few months earlier! An identical question - about registering an unusually-shaped cheese - was in last October's CIPA exam, covering EXACTLY the same legal grounds." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2023/06/3d-trade-marks-for-string-cheese.html?showComment=1686064564353#c1137881435698102398
[20:02]	TR Bot	 3D trade marks for string cheese Distinctive, yet descriptive? - The IPKat
[20:03]	TR News	A Reporter Investigated Sexual Misconduct. Then the Attacks Began. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/business/media/eric-spofford-new-hampshire-public-radio.html
[20:03]	TR Bot	 A Reporter Investigated Sexual Misconduct. Then the Attacks Began. - The New York Times
[20:03]	TR News	"It is difficult to overstate the courts hostility to organized labor and the rights of American workers." https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/opinion/roberts-court-glacier-labor-workers.html
[20:03]	TR Bot	 Opinion | There Is One Group the Roberts Court Really Doesnt Like - The New York Times
[20:04]	AdmFubar	https://www.tweaktown.com/news/91765/apple-3-500-vision-pro-might-need-600-lenses-for-glasses-wearers/index.html
[20:04]	TR Bot	 Apple's $3,500 Vision Pro might need $600 lenses for glasses wearers
[20:04]	bnchs	600 dollar lenses
[20:04]	bnchs	are they made out of rare fucking glass
[20:05]	bnchs	or is this just overcharging for the sake of overcharging
[20:05]	bnchs	lenses that cost 100 dollars more than a fucking playstation 5
[20:05]	AdmFubar	it's apple what do you think?
[20:05]	schestowitz[TR]	i have nother theory
[20:05]	schestowitz[TR]	the limit the reach
[20:06]	schestowitz[TR]	and overprice itr
[20:06]	schestowitz[TR]	to ensure it fails
[20:06]	schestowitz[TR]	but impress dumpg "shareholders"
[20:06]	schestowitz[TR]	with "innnovation" marketing
[20:06]	schestowitz[TR]	when it tanks like "mnetaverse"
[20:06]	schestowitz[TR]	they will say "tough economy"
[20:06]	schestowitz[TR]	"too pricey, mea culpa"
[20:06]	schestowitz[TR]	iirc, FB reduced the price to like 300 bucks
[20:06]	schestowitz[TR]	or maybe 600 for more premium
[20:07]	AdmFubar	https://unlimitedhangout.com/2023/06/podcasts/the-bitcoin-dollar-crypto-colonialism-with-mark-goodwin/
[20:07]	TR Bot	 The Bitcoin Dollar & Crypto-Colonialism with Mark Goodwin
[20:07]	bnchs	AdmFubar: i never saw an apple product that costed less than 100 dollars
[20:07]	schestowitz[TR]	that was before SHTF
[20:07]	bnchs	even a fucking phone stand
[20:07]	schestowitz[TR]	remember FB's "libra"
[20:07]	bnchs	that they sold
[20:07]	bnchs	costed over 100 dollars
[20:07]	schestowitz[TR]	it targets insecure fools
[20:08]	psydruid	I bought my apple powermacs for less than 100 dollars used
[20:08]	psydruid	but actual new apple hardware? forget it
[20:08]	TR News	The Dog Drained My Pool to Try to Destroy Surveillance Video https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/06/06/the-dog-drained-my-pool-to-try-to-destroy-surveillance-video/
[20:08]	TR Bot	 The Dog Drained My Pool to Try to Destroy Surveillance Video - emptywheel
[20:11]	schestowitz[TR]	psydruid: u just so jealous man!
[20:11]	TR News	Students in Finland worry about escalating debt: "I've fallen off the property ladder" https://yle.fi/a/74-20035407
[20:11]	TR Bot	 Students in Finland worry about escalating debt: "I've fallen off the property ladder" | News | Yle Uutiset
[20:11]	TR News	Millions of Chinese students sit gruelling college entrance exams https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/millions-of-chinese-students-sit-gruelling-college-entrance-exams
[20:11]	TR Bot	 Millions of Chinese students sit gruelling college entrance exams | The Straits Times
[20:12]	schestowitz[TR]	my girldfriend jing 20 years ago was a hard learner
[20:12]	schestowitz[TR]	today's kids here just play tiktok and stuff
[20:12]	schestowitz[TR]	then moan about everything
[20:12]	schestowitz[TR]	but their job prospect offer no motivation either
[20:12]	schestowitz[TR]	low pay, too high competition
[20:12]	schestowitz[TR]	few openings
[20:13]	schestowitz[TR]	so who can blame younng people for hardly even trying
[20:13]	schestowitz[TR]	jing went back to shanghai at the end
[20:15]	TR News	Microsoft Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/news/Qt-Generative-AI Copilot is a GPL violator: http://techrights.org/2023/02/10/copilot-in-court/ so Qt now helps ATTACK the GPL
[20:15]	TR Bot	Getting In On Generative AI, Starts By Adding GitHub Copilot To Qt Creator - Phoronix
[20:15]	TR Bot	 Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XXVII The Future of OpenAI May Depend on the Fate of GitHubs Copilot in Court ($9 Billion in Damages) | Techrights
[20:15]	XRevan86	https://postmarketos.org/blog/2023/06/07/v23.06-release/
[20:15]	TR Bot	 postmarketOS // v23.06: From the GNOME Mobile 2023 Hackfest
[20:16]	schestowitz[TR]	adding to http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/postmarketOS_23_06_Arrives_for_Linux_Phones_and_Tablets_with_GN.shtml
[20:17]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines postmarketOS 23.06 Arrives for Linux Phones and Tablets with GNOME Mobile
[20:17]	MinceR	(cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81lbwDRRiXs
[20:17]	TR Bot	https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=81lbwDRRiXs
[20:17]	TR Bot	invidious.snopyta.org | Tortoiseshell cat trilling incredibly cute - Invidious
[20:18]	TR News	"Imitation is a common way to learn. An urge could be good, or bad. The experience could be educational, or might land you a job. Or it could go down the barren rabbit hole, again. One way to defuse fad following is to toss the task onto a TODO list and let the subconscious chew on it." gemini://thrig.me/blog/2023/06/07/imitation.gmi
[20:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[20:22]	TR News	Microsoft staff still writing Microsoft propaganda pieces in the OSI's Web site, falsely characterising chatbots as "AI" https://blog.opensource.org/the-ai-renaissance-and-why-open-source-matters/ see http://techrights.org/2023/04/05/osi-corrupted/
[20:22]	TR Bot	 The AIrenaissance and why Open Source matters - Voices of Open Source
[20:22]	TR Bot	 OSI Blog Composed by Microsofters on Microsofts Payroll, Promoting Proprietary GitHub Using Microsofts Terminology | Techrights
[20:25]	TR News	Unless you are over 50, this is not fast gemini://mybtm.smol.pub/run-2023-06-07
[20:26]	TR News	"Blood clots... some patients know about them, and have a sense that blood clots can mean trouble. On the other hand healthcare workers, especially those dealing with acute illness, are on average positively horrified by this entity." gemini://thfr.info/hi/2023-06-07-schoener-thrombus.gmi
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[20:27]	TR News	 (NEW): Apple and Microsoft Failings http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Apple_and_Microsoft_Failings.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/Apple_and_Microsoft_Failings.gmi 
[20:27]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Apple and Microsoft Failings
[20:27]	TR News	 (UPDATED): Armbian 23.05 Releases with Debian 12 Bookworm-Based Images, i3 Support http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/31/Armbian_23_05_Releases_with_Debian_12_Bookworm_Based_Images_i3_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/05/31/Armbian_23_05_Releases_with_Debian_12_Bookworm_Based_Images_i3_.gmi 
[20:27]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Armbian 23.05 Releases with Debian 12 Bookworm-Based Images, i3 Support
[20:27]	TR News	 (UPDATED): Linux Mint 21.2 with Cinnamon 5.8 Is Getting Support for Gestures http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/02/Linux_Mint_21_2_with_Cinnamon_5_8_Is_Getting_Support_for_Gestur.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/02/Linux_Mint_21_2_with_Cinnamon_5_8_Is_Getting_Support_for_Gestur.gmi 
[20:27]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Linux Mint 21.2 with Cinnamon 5.8 Is Getting Support for Gestures
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[20:29]	AdmFubar	https://themarkup.org/still-loading/2023/05/11/see-the-neighborhoods-internet-providers-excluded-from-fast-internet
[20:29]	TR Bot	 See the Neighborhoods Internet Providers Excluded from Fast Internet The Markup
[20:31]	TR News	"An object typeis a (possibly cv-qualified) type that is not a function type, not a reference type, and not a void type." https://www.kdab.com/object-lifetime/
[20:31]	TR Bot	Lifetime - KDAB
[20:33]	TR News	Simplifying Data Transformation with pivot_longer() in Rs tidyr Library https://www.r-bloggers.com/2023/06/simplifying-data-transformation-with-pivot_longer-in-rs-tidyr-library/
[20:33]	TR Bot	Data Transformation with pivot_longer() in Rs tidyr Library | R-bloggers
[20:33]	TR News	Meeting the Stars of the R-Universe: PEcAn, an Open Source Project to Take Care of the Planet https://www.r-bloggers.com/2023/06/meeting-the-stars-of-the-r-universe-pecan-an-open-source-project-to-take-care-of-the-planet/
[20:33]	TR Bot	the Stars of the R-Universe: PEcAn, an Open Source Project to Take Care of the Planet | R-bloggers
[20:33]	TR News	Avoiding coffee namespace collisions https://rubenerd.com/coffee-namespace-collisions/
[20:33]	TR Bot	Avoiding coffee namespace collisions
[20:35]	TR News	IBMs War on Open (Look at the Pattern of Layoffs at Red Hat) http://techrights.org/2023/06/06/pattern-of-layoffs-at-red-hat/
[20:35]	TR Bot	 IBMs War on Open (Look at the Pattern of Layoffs at Red Hat) | Techrights
[20:36]	TR News	Natural gas reduced Chinas urban pollution. Can it be a global climate solution? https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/energysource/natural-gas-reduced-chinas-urban-pollution-can-it-be-a-global-climate-solution/
[20:36]	TR Bot	 Natural gas reduced Chinas urban air pollution. Can it be a global climate solution? - Atlantic Council
[20:37]	TR News	Mayor urges vulnerable New Yorkers to wear masks as smoke from Canada's fires chokes city https://www.axios.com/2023/06/06/air-quality-northern-us-plummets-raging-wildfire-smoke
[20:37]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/06/06/air-quality-northern-us-plummets-raging-wildfire-smoke )
[20:37]	TR News	Uninsurable America: Climate change hits the insurance industry https://www.axios.com/2023/06/06/climate-change-homeowners-insurance-state-farm-california-florida
[20:37]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/06/06/climate-change-homeowners-insurance-state-farm-california-florida )
[20:38]	TR News	Insurance is not an industry but a "sector" at best; it produces nothing whatsoever
[20:39]	TR News	Michael Ablassmeier: updating to bookworm https://abbbi.github.io//bookworm/
[20:39]	TR Bot	 updating to bookworm Michael Ablassmeier ..
[20:43]	TR News	 (NEW): PinePhonePro First Impression http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/PinePhonePro_First_Impression.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/07/PinePhonePro_First_Impression.gmi 
[20:43]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines PinePhonePro First Impression
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[21:15]	AdmFubar	https://www.thedailybeast.com/black-mirror-creator-used-chatgpt-to-write-an-episode-the-results-were-shit
[21:15]	TR Bot	 Black Mirror Creator Charlie Brooker Knows ChatGPT Is Sh*t at Writing TV
[21:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[21:21]	AdmFubar	https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/07/meta-fco-accounts-center/
[21:21]	TR Bot	to let users refuse its cross-site tracking following German antitrust intervention | TechCrunch
[21:33]	AdmFubar	https://soylentnews.org/meta/article.pl?sid=23/06/04/226212
[21:33]	TR Bot	 SoylentNews PBC Will Formally Continue Operations + Site Overhaul Status - SoylentNews
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[21:51]	AdmFubar	https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/23/06/07/060207/dell-in-hot-water-for-making-shoppers-think-overpriced-monitors-were-discounted
[21:51]	TR Bot	 Dell In Hot Water For Making Shoppers Think Overpriced Monitors Were Discounted - Slashdot
[21:52]	AdmFubar	more crypto cleptos   https://slashdot.org/story/23/06/06/0411202/crypto-catastrophe-strikes-some-atomic-wallet-users-over-35-million-thought-stolen
[21:52]	TR Bot	 Crypto Catastrophe Strikes Some Atomic Wallet Users, Over $35 Million Thought Stolen - Slashdot
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[22:09]	AdmFubar	https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Bitcoin-Sinks-As-Crypto-Companies-Grapple-With-SEC-Lawsuits.html
[22:09]	TR Bot	Sinks As Crypto Companies Grapple With SEC Lawsuits | OilPrice.com
[22:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[23:16]	starstreak	https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3mmxw/your-balls-are-back-online-semen-release-ritual-where-bros-platonically-cum-together?utm_medium=social&utm_source=vice_facebook
[23:16]	TR Bot	 Your Balls Are Back Online: The $55 Semen Release 'Ritual' Where Bros Platonically Cum Together
[23:16]	bnchs	>bros platonically cum together
[23:16]	bnchs	trust me i'm TOTALLY not gay
[23:17]	bnchs	it's just some uhhhh.. platonical cumming ritual
[23:17]	bagirionaire	the internet was always weird i guess, but it still continues to surprise me
[23:18]	MinceR	are the balls touching?
[23:18]	XRevan86	starstreak: Using Facebook are ye?
[23:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-06.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-06-07.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[23:21]	bagirionaire	MinceR, only if they identify as touching?
[23:21]	bnchs	MinceR: it does not count as gay
[23:21]	bnchs	even if we cum to each other
[23:21]	bnchs	its NOT gay
[23:22]	bagirionaire	i identify as a fuedal lord with droitineur, ius primae noctis
[23:22]	bagirionaire	does that mean i get my own parking space?
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[23:22]	bagirionaire	*droit du seigneur
[23:23]	bagirionaire	this fucking keyboard man
[23:24]	MinceR	bagirionaire: i see what you did there
[23:25]	bagirionaire	it's good to be the king
[23:26]	bagirionaire	https://youtu.be/9DxJ-zUtl60
[23:26]	TR Bot	https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=9DxJ-zUtl60
[23:26]	TR Bot	inv.bp.projectsegfau.lt | Mel Brooks - It's Good To Be The King Rap - Invidious
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[23:47]	DaemonFC	There we go. I cleaned my mass airflow sensor and carbon cleaned the throttle body.
[23:49]	DaemonFC	MinceR, I was just going to do the MAF sensor but then I remembered I got a big bottle of Throttle Body Cleaner last year and it was still in my closet because I never got around to using it.
[23:51]	DaemonFC	It was pretty nasty so I just stuck some paper towels under it with on hand and blasted it with the other until all the dirt was out then spray, wipe, spray wipe, until nothing was coming off it anymore, then I pushed the throttle plate back and forth with my screwdriver and sprayed and wiped the carbon off the edges and around the plate.
[23:51]	DaemonFC	The car runs a lot better.
[23:51]	DaemonFC	Had to fight it to get it to start up the first time after I was done though.
[23:51]	DaemonFC	No matter how hard you try to wipe it all up, some cleaner gets sucked into the air intake.
[23:51]	DaemonFC	Just do your best and then give it some gas when you go to start the car.
[23:55]	starstreak	XRevan86, yeee
[23:55]	starstreak	i use a fake name
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