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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Godot Engine Beta, Abbey Games Woes and Steam GNU/Linux Beta Anniversary http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130201 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b57d005d-5810-4cae-ae17-2c2b94b6db76] | Nov 07 02:16 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Screencasts/Audiocasts/Shows: SparkyLinux 2019.11 Run Through, Full Circle Magazine, Linux Headlines and Python http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130202 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4cd3270e-8f47-468a-b941-4443b9384e9e] | Nov 07 02:20 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: SMARC and Qseven modules run Linux on i.MX8M and QuadMax http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130203 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cc567ad9-f748-4cac-94fd-e9073fb43361] | Nov 07 02:22 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics: Mesa 19.2.3 and NVIDIA Xavier NX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130204 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b1af57e5-d963-41c2-bf8f-51a1ca40ec8d] | Nov 07 02:30 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: AI accelerator for the Raspberry Pi claims to get more out of Myriad X http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130206 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f00b9888-bfb3-4421-af9f-ad1d48c4f94d] | Nov 07 02:43 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Latest in Planet Python: Open Source, SaaS and Monetization; Some Python Guides http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130208 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c72363e0-e7d5-4e98-8bf8-e4161960a7fb] | Nov 07 02:56 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GNU Health 3.6RC3 available at community server & demo database http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130210 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d44573f8-d0f6-4daa-b222-d0dc50542a33] | Nov 07 03:02 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Verenitti OS Unix style operating system for gamers, creators and professionals http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130213 [https://pleroma.site/objects/878ee4dd-45a1-4649-b465-a557c73ba1be] | Nov 07 03:21 | |
| schestowitz | > Dear Roy Schestowitz, | Nov 07 04:07 |
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| schestowitz | > | Nov 07 04:07 |
| schestowitz | > We have already suggested that they should choose another name to avoid | Nov 07 04:07 |
| schestowitz | > this conflict according as your company have no relationship with them, | Nov 07 04:07 |
| schestowitz | > but they persist in this name as China domain names (techrights.cn, | Nov 07 04:07 |
| schestowitz | > techrights.com.cn, techrights.net.cn, techrights.org.cn) and internet | Nov 07 04:07 |
| schestowitz | > keyword. In our opinion, maybe they do the similar business as your | Nov 07 04:07 |
| schestowitz | > company then register it to promote his company. | Nov 07 04:07 |
| schestowitz | > | Nov 07 04:07 |
| schestowitz | > As is known to all, the domain name registration based on the | Nov 07 04:07 |
| schestowitz | > international principle is opened to company and individual. Any company | Nov 07 04:07 |
| schestowitz | > or individual have the right to register any domain name and internet | Nov 07 04:07 |
| schestowitz | > keyword which are unregistered. Your company haven't registered this | Nov 07 04:07 |
| schestowitz | > name as China domains and internet keyword, so any company is able to | Nov 07 04:07 |
| schestowitz | > obtain them by registration. But in order to avoid this conflict, the | Nov 07 04:07 |
| schestowitz | > trademark or original name owner have priority right to register China | Nov 07 04:07 |
| schestowitz | > domain name and internet keyword during our dispute period. If your | Nov 07 04:07 |
| schestowitz | > company is the original owner of this name and want to register these | Nov 07 04:07 |
| schestowitz | > China domain names (techrights.cn, techrights.com.cn, techrights.net.cn, | Nov 07 04:07 |
| schestowitz | > techrights.org.cn) and internet keyword to prevent anybody from using | Nov 07 04:07 |
| schestowitz | > them, please inform us. We can send you an application form with price | Nov 07 04:07 |
| schestowitz | > list to help your company register these China domains and internet | Nov 07 04:07 |
| schestowitz | > keyword during our dispute period. | Nov 07 04:08 |
| schestowitz | I should not have to shell out money registering domains I would neither use nor need just because people are trying to cyber-squat the domain that many people already access and have accessed for 13 years. | Nov 07 04:08 |
| scientes | schestowitz, you do not have to if you have a registered trademark | Nov 07 04:08 |
| scientes | but that is by jurisdiction | Nov 07 04:08 |
| scientes | which is why it is @googlemail.de | Nov 07 04:09 |
| scientes | or @googlemail.com *** | Nov 07 04:09 |
| scientes | in germany | Nov 07 04:09 |
| scientes | mehg, i don't really know | Nov 07 04:09 |
| schestowitz | maybe in CHina | Nov 07 04:10 |
| schestowitz | but in any case, TM law is of no interest to me | Nov 07 04:10 |
| schestowitz | this is them trying to leech off the name | Nov 07 04:10 |
| scientes | well of course | Nov 07 04:10 |
| schestowitz | they don't have legit intent or purpose | Nov 07 04:10 |
| scientes | which is called dillution in trademark law | Nov 07 04:10 |
| schestowitz | which is what I am trying to convey here so the Chinese gov. | Nov 07 04:10 |
| schestowitz | They contacted me first | Nov 07 04:10 |
| scientes | *dilution | Nov 07 04:10 |
| schestowitz | as they know they generally have this reputation issue in China | Nov 07 04:11 |
| schestowitz | which they attempt to at least tackle | Nov 07 04:11 |
| schestowitz | to be fair, when the rogue one tried to register the domain | Nov 07 04:11 |
| schestowitz | like they did my surname | Nov 07 04:11 |
| schestowitz | the chinese gov tried to contact me | Nov 07 04:11 |
| schestowitz | same with their registrar | Nov 07 04:11 |
| schestowitz | they at least check | Nov 07 04:11 |
| schestowitz | then the rogue actor contacted me | Nov 07 04:11 |
| schestowitz | so 3 parties | Nov 07 04:12 |
| schestowitz | and I clarified that their intent is clear and malicious | Nov 07 04:12 |
| schestowitz | I got techrights dot com | Nov 07 04:13 |
| schestowitz | to avoid confusion or bad faith | Nov 07 04:13 |
| schestowitz | and it's costing like 22 dollars a year | Nov 07 04:13 |
| schestowitz | just to hold it | Nov 07 04:13 |
| schestowitz | don't want to do the same in China and won't do it | Nov 07 04:13 |
| schestowitz | phoronix had similar issues I alerted Michael about | Nov 07 04:13 |
| schestowitz | like a decade back | Nov 07 04:13 |
| schestowitz | the china thing I have spent lots of time (emails) for like a week or two now | Nov 07 04:13 |
| schestowitz | they can use the name to divert traffic from us to spam | Nov 07 04:14 |
| schestowitz | like some malicious drug spam | Nov 07 04:14 |
| schestowitz | when people search, e.g. "techrights EPO" | Nov 07 04:14 |
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| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/10/18/8fbdf3dff240c86e.jpg | Nov 07 10:02 |
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| schestowitz | ha | Nov 07 10:14 |
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| zoobab | There are long videos of the WebSummit, if someone knows when Campinos spoke on stage | Nov 07 10:32 |
| schestowitz | hi zoobab | Nov 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz | urgent | Nov 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz | I got all tweets about it | Nov 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz | it's in my notes | Nov 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz | I am drafting something | Nov 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz | pasting: | Nov 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz | Tuesday | Nov 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz | #epo promoting #swpats under the guise of "digital fields!" See who's talking there! | Nov 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EPOorg/status/1191667461382389762 | Nov 07 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EPOorg: Good morning from Lisbon! Visit our stand E280 in Pavilion 2 at #WebSummit for expert insight into the EPO’s approa… https://t.co/4jjGv8UMD5 | Nov 07 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EPOorg: Good morning from Lisbon! Visit our stand E280 in Pavilion 2 at #WebSummit for expert insight into the EPO’s approa… https://t.co/4jjGv8UMD5 | Nov 07 10:34 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EPOorg/status/1192068274386874370 | Nov 07 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EPOorg: Today at 16:30 CET, EPO President António Campinos will take the stage at #WebSummit alongside Kaigham Gabriel… https://t.co/trJWXQo7Mc | Nov 07 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EPOorg: Today at 16:30 CET, EPO President António Campinos will take the stage at #WebSummit alongside Kaigham Gabriel… https://t.co/trJWXQo7Mc | Nov 07 10:34 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EPOorg/status/1192114629473980418 | Nov 07 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EPOorg: EPO President António Campinos: "I’m not aware of any strong economies that do not have a strong IP system"… https://t.co/ej2rn6lYV8 | Nov 07 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EPOorg: EPO President António Campinos: "I’m not aware of any strong economies that do not have a strong IP system"… https://t.co/ej2rn6lYV8 | Nov 07 10:34 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EPOorg/status/1192109603720499202 | Nov 07 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EPOorg: EPO President António Campinos: "Industries based on IP and, especially patents, have a big positive impact on Euro… https://t.co/hxy9UfOIAB | Nov 07 10:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EPOorg: EPO President António Campinos: "Industries based on IP and, especially patents, have a big positive impact on Euro… https://t.co/hxy9UfOIAB | Nov 07 10:34 | |
| schestowitz | "AI" (computer-generated applications) | Nov 07 10:34 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EPOorg/status/1192114142926311425 | Nov 07 10:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EPOorg: EPO President António Campinos: "EPO is developing state of the art tools based on #AI to support the work of exami… https://t.co/pRvEII7Y43 | Nov 07 10:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EPOorg: EPO President António Campinos: "EPO is developing state of the art tools based on #AI to support the work of exami… https://t.co/pRvEII7Y43 | Nov 07 10:35 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/EPOorg/status/1192110724048400384 | Nov 07 10:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EPOorg: EPO Pres. António Campinos: "We have recently received an application which had been invented by a machine. We will… https://t.co/B5OKZnj4ji | Nov 07 10:35 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@EPOorg: EPO Pres. António Campinos: "We have recently received an application which had been invented by a machine. We will… https://t.co/B5OKZnj4ji | Nov 07 10:35 | |
| schestowitz | rewtweeting about its even with patent trolls' front groups | Nov 07 10:35 |
| schestowitz | is someone could check the video fro parts where there's faux pass | Nov 07 10:35 |
| schestowitz | like swpats promotion | Nov 07 10:35 |
| schestowitz | that'dddd be greeeeat (meme) | Nov 07 10:35 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: are you around? | Nov 07 10:35 |
| schestowitz | dutch epo protest starting soon | Nov 07 10:35 |
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| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/10/17/1b2f34398542ea9a.jpg | Nov 07 10:42 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/maybekatz/status/1191555732862160896 | Nov 07 11:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@maybekatz: Let's stop doing open source and start doing community source: a manifesto on why OSS is and the OSD are fundamenta… https://t.co/VkY9zkZyVb | Nov 07 11:00 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@maybekatz: Let's stop doing open source and start doing community source: a manifesto on why OSS is and the OSD are fundamenta… https://t.co/VkY9zkZyVb | Nov 07 11:00 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: haha | Nov 07 11:01 |
| schestowitz | real or faked? | Nov 07 11:01 |
| schestowitz | Seems unlikely to occur naturally | Nov 07 11:01 |
| schestowitz | also with the verified sign | Nov 07 11:01 |
| MinceR | xi jinping's name and avatar were obviously edited in afterwards | Nov 07 11:05 |
| schestowitz | I see... | Nov 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | nice anyway | Nov 07 11:06 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: registering a cn domain only would make sense if you are going to get a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICP_license and host in china to avoid being filtered by mistake by the china firewall. | Nov 07 12:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | ICP license - Wikipedia | Nov 07 12:14 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: and that also means you would have to give up on the idea of saying anything anti-china. | Nov 07 12:15 |
| schestowitz | interesting | Nov 07 12:17 |
| oiaohm | The china local search engines don't bias on domains. | Nov 07 12:19 |
| oiaohm | Yes the .cn domain has anti cyber squatting laws. So if someone registers a domain after you and are not really using it you can just have it legally claimed and given to you as long term user of that domain under another country. | Nov 07 12:20 |
| MinceR | Insane Clown Posse license | Nov 07 12:20 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: I kind of do agree. | Nov 07 12:22 |
| oiaohm | So far other countries have not followed suite. | Nov 07 12:23 |
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| oiaohm | I would how long until some country decides to the same as china license under the guise to counter deep fakes. | Nov 07 12:46 |
| oiaohm | I would wounder how long until some country decides to the same as china license under the guise to counter deep fakes. | Nov 07 12:46 |
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| zoobab | I don't have time to review the Websummit videos, if someone can locate the Campinos part... | Nov 07 12:56 |
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| XRevan86 | https://joindiaspora.com/p/16448193 duh | Nov 07 17:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | You can use a #CPP 11 range for loop over a static array https://ts... | Nov 07 17:40 | |
| schestowitz | what about it? | Nov 07 17:41 |
| scientes | the problem with c++ is that it has so mant features that programmers are always going "oh, you can do it this way!" | Nov 07 17:42 |
| schestowitz | haha | Nov 07 17:42 |
| scientes | no matter how skilled they are | Nov 07 17:42 |
| schestowitz | I hate cpp | Nov 07 17:42 |
| scientes | LLVM source code is painful because of C++ | Nov 07 17:42 |
| scientes | especially as they re-write like half of it | Nov 07 17:42 |
| schestowitz | torvalds cannot handle it | Nov 07 17:43 |
| schestowitz | so he attacks it | Nov 07 17:43 |
| XRevan86 | I thought everyone's already used to C++11 range-based for loops | Nov 07 17:43 |
| XRevan86 | > deviceMap[nh] = static_cast(tmpDevice); | Nov 07 17:44 |
| XRevan86 | Now this… what is this? | Nov 07 17:44 |
| MinceR | 07 184213 < scientes> the problem with c++ is that it has so mant features that programmers are always going "oh, you can do it this way!" | Nov 07 17:50 |
| MinceR | every Turing-complete language has that "problem" | Nov 07 17:50 |
| MinceR | as Guido learned at his own cost :> | Nov 07 17:50 |
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| oiaohm | scientes: the worst part about C++ is how much if the langauge is not ABI defined when you produce binaries so you get caught by complier changes. | Nov 07 18:07 |
| scientes | no way | Nov 07 18:08 |
| scientes | i just rebuild llvm9 so | Nov 07 18:09 |
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| scientes | and it doesn't link | Nov 07 18:09 |
| scientes | what was built against 9.- doesn't link against 9.0.1 | Nov 07 18:09 |
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| scientes | that is why everyone should just use a C ABI no matter what language they use | Nov 07 18:10 |
| scientes | Fortran just had ABI problems too | Nov 07 18:10 |
| MinceR | the ABI is not fixed so that it can be adapted to the architecture and improved | Nov 07 18:15 |
| scientes | if you just use the C ABI then you are fine however | Nov 07 18:15 |
| scientes | that is what everyone should do | Nov 07 18:15 |
| MinceR | does that cover function name mangling? | Nov 07 18:16 |
| scientes | C functions are not mangled | Nov 07 18:16 |
| MinceR | C++ functions are | Nov 07 18:16 |
| scientes | don't do C++ ABIs or Fortran ABIs | Nov 07 18:16 |
| scientes | or Rust ABIs | Nov 07 18:16 |
| scientes | just use C ABIs universally | Nov 07 18:16 |
| MinceR | and they need to be so that methods and function overloading can work | Nov 07 18:16 |
| scientes | its a simple and effective solution | Nov 07 18:17 |
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| schestowitz | stupid cloudflare | Nov 07 18:38 |
| schestowitz | idiots | Nov 07 18:38 |
| schestowitz | running their sites | Nov 07 18:38 |
| schestowitz | on a spying CDN | Nov 07 18:38 |
| schestowitz | whose business model seems to be control | Nov 07 18:38 |
| schestowitz | and I end up having to support or diagnose this t rap | Nov 07 18:38 |
| schestowitz | latest example: | Nov 07 18:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 07 18:39 |
| schestowitz | Hi, | Nov 07 18:39 |
| schestowitz | Few points in order of relevance: | Nov 07 18:39 |
| schestowitz | This is not likely to be an FTP-related issue as files are uploaded/transmitted over HTTP protocol | Nov 07 18:39 |
| schestowitz | The sporadic nature of this issue suggests it might be due to traffic-shaping/throttling/blacklisting, maybe at the ISP level, the site's back end, or CloudFlare (the content distributor) | Nov 07 18:39 |
| schestowitz | The user only sees the CloudFlare page as it's what serves the pages at the very foremost layer; it might tell us about the underlying error something that can seem misleading | Nov 07 18:39 |
| schestowitz | So I have more questions: | Nov 07 18:39 |
| schestowitz | Have many people experienced this issue, how long for, and does that depend on time of day? Do they all connect over the same ISP? | Nov 07 18:39 |
| schestowitz | Nov 07 18:39 | |
| schestowitz | Regards, | Nov 07 18:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 07 18:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 07 19:02 |
| schestowitz | It that case it seems like a time-out or disconnect between Cloudflare and the back end (server with Django CMS). | Nov 07 19:02 |
| schestowitz | Nov 07 19:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003011431#502504error | Nov 07 19:03 |
| schestowitz | 1) how long has this issue gone on for (in other words, how new is this issue?) and 2) how large are the files attempted? Any correlation between size and success/failure? | Nov 07 19:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 07 19:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.cloudflare.com | Troubleshooting Cloudflare 5XX errors – Cloudflare Support | Nov 07 19:03 | |
| schestowitz | (being turned into cloudflare support now | Nov 07 19:03 |
| schestowitz | they rely on other people doing their work for them | Nov 07 19:03 |
| schestowitz | when their own stuff fails | Nov 07 19:03 |
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| mtf8 | great article defending RMS :) | Nov 07 19:06 |
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| MinceR | (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/08/11/20123b9526375a2e.mp4 | Nov 07 22:00 |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/10/17/6e74f1ac16efd85f.jpg | Nov 07 22:07 |
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| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/10/28/481950c7700c510f.png | Nov 07 23:00 |
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