●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, April 08, 2022 ●● ● Apr 08 [00:00] schestowitz-TR de la hoya [00:00] XRevan86 Pieskov's interview to Sky News is the most bizarre thing. [00:00] schestowitz-TR Sky Noise [00:00] XRevan86 In the years when I've listened to Pieskov's statements, he never commented on anything in such a way that actually gives any new information. [00:00] *hoy is now known as ahoy [00:00] bnchs it is indutably that this digital appartus uses Artifical Intelligence [00:00] MinceR listening to peskov is bizarre [00:00] XRevan86 But this time something happened, and he actually said things!? [00:00] MinceR it's like looking for something insightful in strings /dev/urandom [00:01] MinceR except less likely to work [00:01] XRevan86 Like he acknowledged that the heavy losses of life were tragic. [00:01] MinceR strange [00:01] MinceR they didn't seem to mind when they caused them [00:01] TR News "Market capitalism has one job: to distribute resources and tasks. To do that, it sets prices. It is completely clueless when it comes to values (how much good something can do) and costs (how much pain something caused to create). It instead uses prices to approximate both of those things, and uses markets to set prices." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/price [00:03] MinceR maybe putler & co are so incompetent they can't determine the likely consequences of starting a war? [00:03] XRevan86 MinceR: This is the first time when any Russian official said anything about the casualties yet. [00:04] XRevan86 MinceR: "maybe" <- absolutely [00:05] ahoy fo you like to dress casual? [00:05] bnchs audacity SEGV'd again [00:05] ahoy casualties if there was an euphemism [00:05] matey hmm [00:06] matey i see an imposter [00:06] schestowitz-TR he casually dress [00:06] schestowitz-TR casually [00:06] kingoffrance "ive been trying for 10 minutes" how about monkey playing cymbals, does that work? [00:06] matey i wasnt looking for that one [00:07] matey whats more interesting is someone is impersonating me using kiwiirc [00:07] matey unless thats chicksahoy, then i take it back [00:07] bnchs do i know what a PNG is? i just want a picture of a god dang monkey puppet [00:08] matey ahoy: who are you [00:08] ahoy not you [00:08] matey obviously [00:08] MinceR lol [00:08] *psymin_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:08] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:08] matey i mean obvious to me [00:08] schestowitz-TR it's ender [00:08] matey oh okay, i take it back [00:08] matey if ender comes in as ahoy thats fine [00:09] matey *i* was ahoy when i first came here [00:09] bnchs schestowitz-TR, who's ender? [00:09] ahoy who is enedr is that the movie? [00:09] matey then i switched to this [00:09] matey then chicksahoy came here and people assumed it was me [00:09] matey understandably, but incorrectly [00:10] matey but this person, i dont know [00:10] schestowitz-TR chicksahoy was ender [00:10] matey yes i got that part [00:10] matey but this person claims to not know who ender is [00:10] matey which means we have a THIRD ahoy [00:11] schestowitz-TR ender was a guest in the first ever techbyets episode [00:11] ahoy ender is the movie [00:11] matey more of an ahoy convoy [00:11] MinceR ahoy matey [00:11] ahoy matey ahoy [00:12] *mib_0bkm16 (~b9e11c87@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [00:13] TR News Links 07/04/2022: gzip 1.12 and Rust 1.60.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/07/gzip-1-12/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/07/gzip-1-12/ [00:13] TR Bot Links 07/04/2022: gzip 1.12 and Rust 1.60.0 | Techrights [00:13] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163486 [00:13] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:14] ahoy mib_0bkm16 is a bot [00:14] MinceR (cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/820572.jpg [00:14] Alternative link CloudFlare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/820572.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/820572.jpg [00:14] schestowitz-TR mibbit has bots? [00:15] ahoy no one real name is a number but for bots [00:15] ahoy Real name: 185.225.28.135 [00:16] immibis speaking of market capitalism [00:16] bnchs ahoy: lol IP address [00:16] immibis isn't it weird how the free market is this magical tool that can allocate resources effectively in any circumstance [00:16] bnchs nice for mibbit to leak IP address in real name [00:17] immibis but yet we absolutely must not change the circumstance in which it operates in any way that is detrimental to anyone rich, because the whole thing would collapse? [00:17] bnchs immibis, i wanted to say i'm sorry if whatever i said made me look like a nazi [00:17] matey /me doesnt think people need to apologise for not being a nazi [00:17] ahoy your /me isnt working [00:18] matey it never does [00:18] *mib_0bkm16 has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [00:18] bnchs i don't want people to think i am [00:18] matey i dont think any reasonable person thinks you are [00:18] immibis saying that we shouldn't punish nazis puts you in "useful idiot" territory [00:18] matey when did he say that [00:18] *ahoy wouldnt use /me is it was broken [00:19] matey /me isnt you [00:19] immibis printf \\x01 | xsel -ib [00:19] immibis ACTION does a thing [00:19] *immibis does a thing [00:19] bnchs immibis, ughhh i didn't want to bring this shit again [00:19] immibis did that work at all? [00:19] matey what was it supposed to do? [00:19] immibis manually send a /me [00:20] matey i dont think i can shell into this [00:20] immibis did you see "* immibis does a thing" or did you see " [?]ACTION does a thing[?]" [00:20] matey oh you mean copy and paste [00:20] bnchs look, i said what i said [00:20] bnchs i don't care anymore [00:20] matey bnchs: you shouldnt worry about this [00:21] ahoy you will once we get you to nuremberg [00:21] matey if nuremberg was doing its job, half the idiots in charge would be hanging from a rope [00:21] bnchs ok [00:21] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [00:22] matey nurembergs been bloody useless for three quarters of a century [00:22] psydruid bnchs, heil nazi [00:22] matey aww man [00:22] immibis nuremberg is now one excuse that nazis are using to excuse murdering people who oppose nazis, btw [00:22] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [00:22] immibis calling it "nuremberg 2.0" where nazis will set up a kangaroo court to find all the anti-nazis guilty [00:23] matey nazis always find dumb excuses to kill people [00:23] matey i mean that was the whole point-- finding dumb excuses to kill people [00:23] activelow the court had to judge war crimes, not nazis [00:23] matey if you cant find really stupid reasons to kill lots of people, youre kind of shit at being a nazi tbh [00:24] activelow not all nazis were war criminals, and not all war criminals are nazis [00:25] ahoy if theres no war no nazis can be war criminals [00:25] ahoy no mater what they do [00:25] matey maybe they can be special military operations criminals [00:26] immibis what's shameful is that so many people just take the nazi wordplay bullshit as given [00:26] immibis nazis: "Oh we are just going to see if anyone did anything wrong and punish them if so." most people: "oh okay, carry on then" [00:26] matey well its not like nazis 1.0 were any better [00:27] matey "oh okay, carry on then" <- basically what they said to the original version as well [00:27] matey people in general are pretty blase about war crimes [00:27] matey i dont get it [00:28] matey its like they think war criminals are election material [00:28] matey as evidenced by the fact that not only to they elect them in office-- which we could complain about [00:28] matey they actually go to the polls and deliberately vote for these people. [00:28] matey how many civilians did this arsehole kill for a construction company? [00:29] matey oh i dont know, but i dont want the other guy to get in! [00:29] matey MooooOOOooooOOoooo [00:30] matey we wouldnt be any worse off if we let livestock vote [00:30] matey they might be better at it [00:31] ahoy livestock isnt that what the nazis called the jews? [00:31] *chunky has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:31] matey lots of people refer to each other as livestock [00:31] matey cattle, sheep, etc [00:31] *dude (~b9dc6543@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [00:31] activelow "human resources" [00:32] matey indeed [00:32] kingoffrance ^ [00:32] dude clownfuck is down for almost 2 days now. https://101010.pl/@mypdns_status [00:32] TR Bot Status (@mypdns_status@101010.pl) - 101010.pl [00:32] ahoy for me livestock is the likes of elon musk [00:32] bnchs lol [00:32] immibis matey: people are blase about the rise of nazis until they seize power and genocide the minorities du jour. And then they remain pretty blase [00:32] bnchs clownflare should kill themselves [00:32] dude they finally dead? [00:32] matey immibis: yes [00:32] dude oh [00:32] matey but theyre blase about all the other war criminals as well [00:32] matey unless theyre told not to be [00:32] immibis maybe russmany invading ukroland is the start of people being less blase in general, but probably not [00:33] matey usually by other war criminals [00:33] ahoy livestock is the likes of elon musk [00:33] matey but probably not <- but probably not [00:33] ahoy cause they hold lots of stoks [00:33] kingoffrance ive seen media say how great it is their is social media to document things.......so im leaning towards humanity is doomed [00:33] kingoffrance *there [00:34] matey immibis: if enough people abandon capitalism they will figure out who the war criminals are [00:34] matey seems odd that not understand war crimes would be a "side effect" of accepting capitalism [00:34] kingoffrance war crimes and free nuggets for a year, i get my news from social media [00:34] matey but once you reject capitalism it becomes clearer why there are so many fucking war crimes [00:35] matey kingoffrance: REALLY? free nuggest? [00:35] matey /me saw the thing about free nuggets somewhere [00:35] matey what comic was that [00:36] ahoy free nuggets of wisedom [00:36] immibis i doubt it's because of capitalism [00:36] matey and yet [00:37] ahoy there's a prediction of recession for the us [00:38] ahoy maybe they stop being capitalists then [00:40] ahoy its hard being capitalist if you got no capital [00:40] activelow my grandparents suffered from those during WW2: bombed by the "allies" when hiding inside basement, hunger, mass unemployment [00:40] activelow the impact on the psyche is noticable, 70years later, still [00:40] MinceR according to one definition, that's literally the only way to not be a capitalist :> [00:41] matey that's literally the only way <- lol, what is? [00:41] activelow and remembering some of my relatives who died already, they cannot defend themselves against accusations of "nazi" [00:41] MinceR not owning capital [00:41] *chunky (~chunky@wa5c3nj9mkua2.irc) has joined #techrights [00:41] activelow by coincidence, i remembered an Uncle of mine, who died some years ago, who had given me books, priceless book [00:42] activelow my grandfather died 10 years ago, who was _forced_ to serve in hitler youth, at the age of 15years, and had to risk his live at flak air defense against "allied" bombing [00:43] activelow my other grandfather is dead too already, who was hunting soviet tanks with rocket launchers as a teenager, and his mother died when he was 14 years old [00:43] activelow now, when i am reading the rubbish and crap in this channel [00:43] matey when i am reading the rubbish and crap in this channel <- if only you were more specific [00:44] schestowitz-TR the "Allies" invaded Germany? [00:44] schestowitz-TR that's not how I remember the world wars [00:44] activelow it isn't "Nazi" what i remember, and who the war criminals were [00:44] activelow who the victims were, and what had to be remembered about them [00:45] schestowitz-TR Poland was invaded by the victims [00:45] schestowitz-TR France offered asylum to Germans? [00:45] activelow poland collaborated [00:45] schestowitz-TR with who? [00:45] matey "invaded" is a politically neutral (technical) term https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Allied_invasion_of_Germany [00:45] TR Bot Western Allied invasion of Germany - Wikipedia [00:45] schestowitz-TR poland was invaded [00:45] schestowitz-TR from both sides [00:45] activelow schestowitz-TR: _bolshevists_ [00:46] schestowitz-TR no [00:46] matey nah, stalin killed the bolshevists [00:46] schestowitz-TR poland was "split" between hitler and stalin [00:46] schestowitz-TR stalin and hitler initially collaborated [00:46] *XRevan86 reads what's written here. [00:46] schestowitz-TR at poland's expense [00:46] XRevan86 holy shit [00:48] matey the allies did invade germany. a victory would have been difficult without an invasion. [00:48] *dude has quit (Quit: https://mibbit.com Online IRC Client) [00:49] schestowitz-TR "the police put handcuffs on me" [00:49] schestowitz-TR "the brutes" [00:50] matey you seem to consider the term "invasion" as accusatory, or for it to refer to only whoever "started" it [00:50] matey "you started it!" "no we didnt!" "yes you did, you invaded poland!"-- fawlty towers, "the germans" [00:50] schestowitz-TR japan was invading many countries also [00:50] schestowitz-TR ended up nuked, twice [00:51] XRevan86 activelow: I don't really follow your point. [00:51] matey yes, lots of invasions in a "world war" [00:51] schestowitz-TR history has more sympathy to the countries invaded far, far from japan [00:51] XRevan86 activelow: But as a contemporary Nazi nation member, I can sympathise I guess. [00:51] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@5hmhepsc87jyu.irc) has joined #techrights [00:51] schestowitz-TR now we have invasion of ukraine [00:51] schestowitz-TR one of the biggest countries in europe [00:52] matey yes, that is also an invasion [00:52] matey a needless and nasty one [00:52] schestowitz-TR would be kind of epic if, at the end, ukraine will "invade" moscow [00:52] schestowitz-TR and bring putin to his knees [00:52] schestowitz-TR the dawn of the UKEmpire [00:52] schestowitz-TR the second [00:52] XRevan86 Ukraine definitely doesn't have resources for that. [00:52] matey it wouldnt be ukraine [00:52] matey it would be nato [00:52] schestowitz-TR UKraimpire [00:53] matey and the worst thing it could become is "epic" [00:53] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:53] schestowitz-TR starring a comedian and his sidekick Joe [00:53] XRevan86 FYI, Putin is not in Moscow. [00:53] schestowitz-TR oh, he is retrearting already? [00:54] bnchs__ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gifar [00:54] TR Bot Gifar - Wikipedia [00:54] XRevan86 schestowitz: He's called a bunker senior for a reason, it's not a figure of speech. [00:54] schestowitz-TR lol, well, he's easy to fit in one [00:55] *ahoy has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [00:55] schestowitz-TR "quick, check the underwear cabinet, he must be hiding somewhere" [00:55] matey he really is russias answer to napoleon. although napoleon wasnt really that short [00:56] *mib_o0fqqo (~8d7e3a2e@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [00:56] schestowitz-TR he liked sarko better than assad [00:57] XRevan86 Modern technology is truly amazing, a dictator can literally sit in a bunker, never leave and orchestrate the madness remotely. [00:58] bnchs__ whats his power source [00:58] schestowitz-TR call him putinstation [00:58] schestowitz-TR PS69 [00:58] bnchs__ stalin putinstation [00:58] schestowitz-TR a rfelic from soviet kgb [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 35.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 373.71 [00:59] matey Modern technology is truly amazing, a dictator can literally sit in a bunker, never leave and orchestrate the madness remotely. <- and yet high command has long been SORT OF like this [00:59] kingoffrance ^ [00:59] matey i mean, when was the last time the leader of a nation was on the front lines while in office? [00:59] kingoffrance people say thats how the non-dictators also roll ● Apr 08 [01:00] kingoffrance and why the cia is so messed up -- all about tech [01:00] kingoffrance or "full spectrum dominance" whatever [01:00] kingoffrance and any other "intelligence" suffers [01:00] kingoffrance unless they got tanks invading, dont care [01:01] matey kingoffrance https://yewtu.be/watch?v=C-CG5w4YwOI [01:01] TR Bot "Weird Al" Yankovic - Party In The CIA (Parody of "Party In The U.S.A." by Miley Cyrus) - Invidious [01:01] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@ikj3egbzt55vk.irc) has joined #techrights [01:01] matey now the real party begins [01:01] DaemonFC schestowitz, Well, the Impala has a problem that's going to be too expensive to justify fixing. [01:01] DaemonFC So I'm probably going to buy a new car next week. [01:01] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [01:01] DaemonFC Well, newer. [01:02] matey "lame impala" [01:02] DaemonFC My mechanic knows a guy with a 2008 Buick Lacrosse with a 3800 V6. [01:02] schestowitz-TR ballmer the impala' [01:02] DaemonFC That was the Series 3 (the Impala has the Series II). [01:02] matey vlad the impala [01:03] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@joseon-9jiopf.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #techrights [01:03] DaemonFC That's a good engine. One of the top ten engines of the 20th century according to Consumer Reports. The Series 3 has improved gaskets and stronger connecting rods. [01:03] DaemonFC So they took a damned good engine and made it better, and then got rid of it because of CAFE. [01:03] DaemonFC It went on from 1962 to 2008. [01:03] kingoffrance "when was the last time the leader of a nation was on the front lines" that was supposedly alexander the great lol [01:04] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, We were talking about cars this morning and I said I wanted a reliable one without all these dumbass features. [01:04] XRevan86 kingoffrance: He didn't have a bunker. [01:04] matey well i didnt think george washington counted [01:04] DaemonFC Well, the Buick only has 55,000 miles on it. [01:04] XRevan86 kingoffrance: So lame for him. [01:04] DaemonFC So there's a good chance I won't have any Garretsoft on my car for at least a while to go. [01:04] DaemonFC *Garrettsoft [01:05] kingoffrance supposedly he asked the philosopher who lived in a tub if he could do anything for him, and the reply was "get out of my sunlight" lol [01:05] matey no microsoft pluton in your late model saturn? [01:05] DaemonFC Sensors that are astronomical to replace and tune and total a brand new fucking car right after you get in a fender bender. Shitty auto-drive software that drives over people and into cop cars that the government can assassinate you with. And three transmissions by 100,000 miles. [01:06] DaemonFC All of this can be your in your 2022 ANYTHING! [01:06] DaemonFC Act now and we'll throw in BURSTING INTO FLAMES! (Hyundai and Kia only, except in Nebraska!). [01:06] matey supposedly he asked the philosopher who lived in a tub if he could do anything for him, and the reply was "get out of my sunlight" lol <- i was literally going to mention this when you mentioned alex the just okay [01:06] matey but i thought it was too random [01:07] matey still its the first thing i thought of [01:07] DaemonFC MinceR, Your car can go anywhere! Like, literally, any piece of your KIA engine can land anywhere within a 3 block radius. [01:07] TR News Latest MITRE Endpoint Security Results Show Some Familiar Names on Top | eSecurityPlanet https://www.esecurityplanet.com/endpoint/mitre-endpoint-security-results/ Source: esecurityplanet [01:07] Alternative link CloudFlare: esecurityplanet.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.esecurityplanet.com/endpoint/mitre-endpoint-security-results/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.esecurityplanet.com/endpoint/mitre-endpoint-security-results/ [01:07] TR Bot MITRE Endpoint Security Results Show Some Familiar Names on Top | eSecurityPlanet [01:07] DaemonFC Giving it the AMAZING ability to be in 12 places at once! [01:07] DaemonFC Patent pending... [01:08] MinceR DaemonFC: lol [01:08] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I'm finally moving up in the world. [01:08] DaemonFC This one will have a CD player. [01:08] TR News wfx: get out from the staging area - Staging driver development tree https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/gregkh/staging.git/commit/?h=staging-next&id=4a5fb1bbcdf1cccae1f6b9c0277b3796b2a468ef Source: git [01:08] DaemonFC I've never had one of those in a car before. [01:08] TR Bot kernel/git/gregkh/staging.git - Staging driver development tree [01:08] schestowitz-TR it's justa car [01:08] DaemonFC Everything I've ever driven was so old it had a tape deck, except for the KIA, which had nothing. It had a radio and Bluetooth. [01:08] schestowitz-TR it'll cost a lot in repairs [01:08] schestowitz-TR for fake status [01:08] matey if youre really lucky, someone left a counting crows cd in it [01:09] DaemonFC The salescritter said they removed the CD player because "young people don't use them and it saves the company like $50 per car". [01:09] DaemonFC I told him "And then they pass it right along by charging you $27,000 for a KIA when a full size sedan with a V8 in it was $22,000 in 1996.". [01:10] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Thanks to Biden's economic miracle, the cash depreciates faster than the car. [01:10] DaemonFC God Bless President Biden and God Bless America! [01:10] matey grand larceny is an economic miracle [01:11] MinceR i used to have a car with a CD player in it, but i never used the CD player [01:11] DaemonFC matey, Well, my mechanic said he wasn't just going to throw an alternator at it and call it a day because the problem would be back and I'd be pissed and he's never seen an alternator start failing the way I'm describing it. [01:11] MinceR it also had a USB port and an SD card slot so there was really no point :> [01:11] matey and you trust your mechanic isnt shitting you of course [01:11] matey because its you, i dont even know why im asking [01:11] DaemonFC He says it is most certainly a wire somewhere that's broken loose and is getting splashed sometimes and shorting out. [01:12] DaemonFC I'm sure that he would be perfectly happy to keep sitting there and taking my money every few months for all of these repairs. [01:13] DaemonFC I told him I'm just getting annoyed and tired of looking at it. [01:13] DaemonFC I turned down a 2009 Honda Civic he suggested a few months back. [01:13] matey i cant see you in a honda civic [01:13] DaemonFC It just had too many miles on it. I'd rather have a 55,000 mile Buick than a 170.000 mile Honda Civic. [01:14] DaemonFC Yeah, you know. It's a Honda but it's also their cheap little commuter model. [01:14] matey youre just too far from the sorts of douchebags ive known with honda civics [01:14] DaemonFC They're not going to pour their heart and soul into it. It'll have cheap rubber shit where a Buick has metal. [01:15] DaemonFC I don't like the idea of going from a V6 to an Inline 4 on principle. [01:15] matey wow, i didnt know they made inline 4s [01:16] DaemonFC Instead of a timing chain that is virtually trouble free for half a million miles or so (assuming you change your oil), you get a cheap rubber belt that you have to replace every 100,000 miles or so. [01:16] matey /me isnt a car person, but has seriously never heard of inline less than 5 [01:16] DaemonFC It's another rubber piece of shit that can strand you somewhere. [01:16] DaemonFC Which is exactly what you want more of. /s [01:17] DaemonFC wow, i didnt know they made inline 4s [01:17] DaemonFC Yes, they have for a very long time. [01:17] matey weird [01:17] DaemonFC The ones from the 80s and 90s had a nasty reputation. [01:17] DaemonFC They were shitty and underpowered and you'd only put them in a horrible car. [01:18] DaemonFC About the most you'd likely get out of one is maybe 100 horsepower. [01:18] DaemonFC But usually 80-90. [01:19] DaemonFC The Buick 3800 V6 gets 200. Which is about the same as the 4.6 Modular V8 from Ford up until they revised it in the police model in the later fleet years. [01:19] DaemonFC You can certainly get 350 horsepower out of a V6 today, and you will find plenty like that, but you have to do some nasty stuff to them to get that out of them, and then you're looking at more engine work over the life of the car. [01:20] matey "its got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks. its a model made before catalytic converters so itll run good on regular gas." [01:20] DaemonFC LOL [01:20] DaemonFC Elwood Blues [01:20] matey yep [01:20] *phobos has quit (Connection closed) [01:20] DaemonFC He was talking about the Ford Crown Victoria, you know. [01:20] DaemonFC Which was my favorite car ever. Should NEVER have gotten rid of it. [01:21] matey as soon as you said "until they revised it in the police model" [01:21] DaemonFC Yes, the 2011 4.6 produced 250 horsepower. [01:21] DaemonFC To do that, they used a different tuning program in the PCM, so it was a software change mostly. [01:21] DaemonFC It caused the fuel economy to go down again. [01:22] DaemonFC Instead of 18-23 (City/Highway) you get about 16-21 in the cop model. [01:22] matey but more horsepower? [01:22] DaemonFC YES! [01:22] matey sounds like its probably worth it [01:24] DaemonFC The civilian model wasn't that bad. In 1992, they introduced it at 190, so don't buy that. In 1996, it got bumped to 200 (but with defective DuPont intakes so don't buy it until 2000). [01:24] DaemonFC Then in 2000, it got bumped again without the defective intakes and 5 more horsepower, to 205. [01:25] DaemonFC Ford had a recall to replace the intakes, but it's expired and there's a lot of 1996-2000s out there with the defective intakes even though the replacements would have been free. [01:26] DaemonFC If you can get a 2001-2011, and for a good price, especially without rust on the body, go for it. [01:26] DaemonFC Although if it's on the older end of that, you'll want to replace all of the brake lines and the fluid first thing you do. [01:26] DaemonFC They're notorious for brake line decay, but that's a Ford problem in general. [01:27] matey /me wants a balloon suit and a fan [01:27] DaemonFC With GM, some of the 3100s were alright as long as they never got DexCool in them or it was completely flushed and replaced for green coolant right away. [01:28] DaemonFC Same for the 3800 V6 from I think 2000 through 2006. [01:28] DaemonFC The 2007 and 2008 should come from the factory with improved gaskets that can tolerate it. [01:28] DaemonFC If you're going with a 3800 V6, get a 1999 or older or the 2007 or 2008. [01:28] matey id look like a cross between a sumo wrestler and the flying nun, but i dont really care about that [01:28] DaemonFC Or you'll have the DeathCool problem. [01:29] DaemonFC I don't like driving small cars. [01:30] DaemonFC Soon, all you'll be able to buy are small cars, with bad engines, and a lot of malicious software. Made out of the shittiest junk they could find laying around. Designed to fail after the last payment to the finance company. [01:30] DaemonFC We're close now. [01:30] DaemonFC They don't want those big steel American tanks anymore. They don't want you bouncing around in the same car you bought 30 years ago. [01:31] DaemonFC I still see people driving cars from the 1970s and 80s. [01:31] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1hPO5frsXOs [01:31] TR Bot First Full Flight Test Of Real Life Iron Man Suit | Savage Builds - Invidious [01:31] DaemonFC They're primitive. As long as you can find (and occasionally clean) a part, and keep it from rusting, it will continue to work. [01:31] DaemonFC That's just how they built things back then. [01:33] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I spend basically no money on clothes or entertainment and do my own haircuts. [01:33] DaemonFC So I have enough to pay for the car in cash and not worry about it. [01:33] DaemonFC I was explaining to Mandy the real way you get fucked on a car deal is if you finance it, especially with bad credit. [01:33] DaemonFC Then the bank takes nearly as much for itself as the car cost to begin with. [01:34] DaemonFC Or from a dealer, which adds $1,000 to the private party price because fuck you, and then charges you $500 again to document that they sold you the car (printing off a page). [01:35] DaemonFC You put them both together, you double what you would have spent if you went to some dude with cash. [01:35] DaemonFC The dealers get cars at auction, they don't know anything about them. [01:36] DaemonFC The auction houses sell them dirt cheap because they're usually bankruptcy repos and cities that bought a bunch of Impalas and Crown Vics for the cops and spent years chasing people and driving them over curbs. [01:36] DaemonFC Then, right, the dealer gets the thing for $1,500 maybe, and then says "That's a $7,900 car. Would you like to finance it with us?". [01:37] matey /me thinks dfc is better at ranting about capitalism than anyone else hes ever met [01:37] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, By buying the Buick from the original owner myself, with cash, vs. doing the same thing at "Your Choice Autos", I save at least a few thousand dollars and my mechanic knows everything about the car! [01:38] DaemonFC He has it there on Saturday anyway, he said I can come look at it. It's going in to be detailed. [01:39] DaemonFC /me thinks dfc is better at ranting about capitalism than anyone else hes ever met [01:39] DaemonFC It's not Capitalism. [01:39] DaemonFC The US is not a capitalist country. [01:39] DaemonFC There's central planning going on, and we have an Oligarch class. [01:39] DaemonFC It's more like Russia than most people want to believe. [01:39] *psydruid thinks matey should encourage him to write a book and maybe a series of them [01:40] matey It's more like Russia than most people want to believe. <- no i believe it [01:40] DaemonFC You used to be able to say absolutely anything you wanted in this country. [01:40] matey i dont think dfc is encouragable, no matter how much roy might insist otherwise [01:40] DaemonFC And you wouldn't have to worry about what the government did to you. Unless you threatened the president or something. [01:40] DaemonFC And now between the spies and the Cancel Mob, you're fucked if you step out of line. [01:41] DaemonFC "encouragable" [01:41] matey Unless you threatened the president or something. <- before lincoln they didnt even give a shit about that [01:41] DaemonFC incorrigible [01:41] matey you could say "im going to go kill lincoln" and they would say "okay, good luck" [01:41] matey incorrigible <- no one would say youre not that [01:41] DaemonFC My dad finally blocked me on Facebook. [01:41] matey haha [01:42] matey what for [01:42] DaemonFC One of his "facebook friends" insulted me and said she was wiser than I am at the end of it all. [01:42] DaemonFC And I said, "You're definitely wizened, but not wise.". [01:42] matey oh boy [01:42] matey heh [01:43] DaemonFC Like, "I don't need six paragraphs to cut you down, you old witch. You hag!". [01:44] DaemonFC It's like The Doctor said. He could finish the Prime Minister off with six words. And he did. [01:44] DaemonFC "Don't you think she looks tired?" [01:44] matey that was a good one [01:48] DaemonFC I figured I'd be able to push the Impala a bit longer. Kind of upset about that. [01:48] DaemonFC But at least it didn't fail catastrophically. [01:50] matey now you could finish her off with just six words. [01:51] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:54] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@m5bv5yfbeuhi4.irc) has joined #techrights [01:54] DaemonFC now you could finish her off with just six words. [01:54] DaemonFC Don't you think it looks tired? [01:54] matey heh [01:55] DaemonFC I [01:55] DaemonFC ER.... I'd be tired if I was almost two times older than my expected service life. [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.73 k/sec., IPFS upstream 53.20 average k/sec., average swarm size 308.25 ● Apr 08 [02:02] *matey has quit (connection closed) [02:04] DaemonFC I'm thinking of opening up individual bank accounts for me and Mandy. [02:05] DaemonFC Since we're both T-Mobile customers, we can both have an account at T-Mobile Money. [02:05] DaemonFC They pay 4% on up to the first $3,000. [02:05] DaemonFC So that protects _some_ of our money from, well, more inflation than our stupid ass bank does. [02:08] *bnchs__ has quit (connection closed) [02:08] *matey (~matey@5qfh8ygvjx3sy.irc) has joined #techrights [02:16] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@5qfh8ygvjx3sy.irc) has joined #techrights [02:23] DaemonFC "You have to make 10 qualifying purchases per month to get 4% APR." Oh, that's easy. [02:24] DaemonFC I've done this before. You pay $1 on your phone bill every day for 10 days and then they have to pay you the 4% APR, when you would have only made 15 cents in credit card rewards. [02:30] matey about a week to go until rms does his state of free software speech [02:30] matey i mean, the date is the 13th, maybe we will see it before the 14th [02:31] matey we should imagine that it will start to pick up where the fsf left off, around 2014 or so. [02:32] matey why? i dont know. pixie dust. [02:32] matey facebook: move fast and break things [02:33] matey fsf: move slow and watch things get broken [02:33] matey libreplanet: take an oath and lynch people [02:34] matey everybody knows the state of free software. [02:34] matey we are waiting to find out if after 8 years of doing nothing, the fsf knows too. [02:34] matey and thats the state of free software. [02:34] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:37] DaemonFC " Bodycount dcmanryan a year ago [02:37] DaemonFC Don't worry it will change again later on. Samsung Pay used to give points for every purchase no matter how small the charge was. Then they reduced the points. And finally they removed all points from purchases. It's too easy to buy ten things a month." [02:37] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. 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HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-070422.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-070422.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-070422.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-070422.txt [02:40] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, April 07, 2022 [02:41] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-04-07.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-04-07.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:44] matey unity is sucking the life out of the fsf [02:44] matey they need to please the people who want freedom [02:44] matey they need to please the people who want corporate hegemony [02:44] matey they want unity, so they will try to appease everyone [02:44] matey corporate hegemony will win under a banner of freedom. [02:44] matey everyones happy and nothing changes. [02:45] matey its very much like the democratic party. [02:46] matey after many years of illegal wars and marching back and forth between iraq and afghanistan [02:46] matey the united states finally throws out the fake president and elects CHANGE personified [02:46] matey then begins 8 years of a brave era of change. [02:46] matey what changed? the president. [02:46] matey what else changed? nothing. [02:46] DaemonFC "Ive had serious misgivings about data compression ever since Microsoft stole STACKER and called it DoubleSpace in the days of MS-DOS. Even after they were sued, lost, paid money, removed it, allegedly rewrote it (without the BUST bug), and called it DriveSpace (now with Scandisk-checking support), it was super sketchy. Instead of doing the obvious thing and just reporting the compressed file size, Microsoft chose to take the space you ha [02:46] DaemonFC d on the disk, double the figure exactly, and report that as the drives volume size. [02:46] DaemonFC Then if that wasnt bad enough, if a single byte of the compressed volume became corrupt, you could well lose the entire drives contents, including DOS and Windows, and to make things even worse, they went on to load an incredibly bloated driver (well over 120 KB) into the first 640 KB of RAM (causing the user to be unable to load many programs, and then they went on to mount the compressed volume as C, while putting the real C on [02:46] DaemonFC H, showing a drive completely filled by one file. Then some users would just delete the file, which succeeded, and would wipe their entire hard drive. [02:46] DaemonFC Of course, thats Microsoft for you, and that was then and this is now. I havent had any trouble with BtrFS Compress, and with the improvements done on the file system code in BtrFS lately, more and more people are finding it highly reliable in general." [02:47] DaemonFC -me, from a blog post draft I've been working on. [02:47] matey i thought it was lag [02:47] matey im glad its not, thats means we arent both doing it [02:47] matey ah doublespace [02:48] matey id have to use half my drive before i considered doubling the size. [02:49] DaemonFC Added, "This led to running out of hard disk space while it said you had plenty left (common), or having plenty of space, but being told there wasn't any more because the compression ratio of your files was a little better than it predicted (although this was rare)." [02:49] matey i do this crazy thing when i want more space-- its completely nuts [02:49] matey i find the largest files, pick some i dont need, and delete them [02:49] matey fucking crazy, i know [02:49] matey but IT WORKS! [02:49] matey and its easy [02:49] DaemonFC Dear File Manager, Please delete my entire hard drive with one click because H drive.....What's that? [02:50] DaemonFC Microsoft Qualiry [02:50] DaemonFC *Quality [02:50] matey how long did you work for them? [02:50] matey (how long ago?) [02:50] matey i know it was another lifetime [02:51] DaemonFC Added that too.... [02:51] DaemonFC "Dear Microsoft File Manager, Please delete my entire hard drive with one click because H drive..What's that?" -Windows user [02:51] DaemonFC how long did you work for them? [02:51] DaemonFC You mean as an unpaid volunteer? [02:51] matey aww i thought you were an mvp [02:52] DaemonFC A few years in the 1990s, and I had to use another alias for my DELETE Internet Explorer stuff on Geocities. [02:52] matey they never paid you? [02:52] DaemonFC Yes, that's the MVP program. They don't pay anything. You just get free Microsoft things now and then. [02:52] matey wow [02:52] DaemonFC It was like AOL using volunteers to write parts of their site in RAINMAN. [02:52] matey heh [02:52] matey what is the um, what was the gist of what they had you do? [02:53] DaemonFC AOL paid them in free AOL hours. [02:53] matey aol hours. oof [02:53] DaemonFC Essentially, the program is that if you're generally knowledgeable and helpful in the Microsoft community, they pin an MVP badge on you. Or at least that's how it worked then. [02:54] DaemonFC That's their way of saying unpaid technical support. [02:54] matey i honestly pictured you doing something more sinister [02:54] matey which you regretted, so [02:54] matey but you know, i mean i pictured something more [02:55] DaemonFC No, it's pretty informal. [02:55] matey well there goes my image of ryan the suit and tie softie [02:55] DaemonFC AOL actually lost a lawsuit and had to pay their "Community Leaders" minimum wage in the end. [02:55] DaemonFC With backpay. [02:55] matey nice [02:55] DaemonFC Because the court ruled that the type of work was subject to the wage and hour laws. [02:56] matey but they make exceptions for free software volunteers [02:56] matey who get paid in sheer treachery [02:57] matey im not saying every loc should have a dollar attached to it [02:57] matey just that if people build something for the world [02:57] matey it shouldnt be co-opted by some dick working for "open source" [02:58] matey and if the fsf was doing its job, they would at least be fighting THAT [02:58] matey not trying to put a fucking smiley face on it [02:58] matey open source is a scam, and free software is... also a scam, if it becomes open source. [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.71 k/sec., IPFS upstream 71.75 average k/sec., average swarm size 333.86 [02:59] matey free software has two jobs: 1. liberate users 2. dont become a scam that makes the first job a farce [02:59] matey theyre failing at 1 and 2. [02:59] matey might as well be aol or mvp ● Apr 08 [03:00] matey obviously different in matters of degree, but... [03:00] DaemonFC Yes, I don't think mjg59_ actually releases anything important that he just worked on for the hell of it. I could be wrong. [03:00] matey still a race to the bottom [03:00] DaemonFC That's how you know. [03:00] matey i mean, i consider the problem a lot bigger than one person [03:01] matey hes fun to throw things at because hes HERE [03:01] matey in tossing distance [03:01] matey and hes near the top of the letter, i believe. [03:01] DaemonFC But "Linux" has been trending that way for years, you know. I think the last figure I saw was with the kernel itself, like 16% were not corporate-sponsored to contribute. That's by lines of code. [03:01] matey But "Linux" has been trending that way for years, you kno <- i completely agree. linux is a joke. [03:01] DaemonFC In the 90s, there were some years where 80-90% of the Linux kernel contributions were actual community stuff. [03:01] matey it doesnt bother me if corporations "contribute" [03:01] matey only when they start to control it [03:02] matey and if we let them contribute enough... they WILL start to take control [03:02] DaemonFC The kernel has certainly gotten bigger just from the amount of junk they stuff in it. [03:02] matey if we want to limit their control, we have to limit their contributions. [03:02] DaemonFC Most of which doesn't even apply to you. [03:02] matey and the fsf isnt prepared to do that. [03:02] matey Most of which doesn't even apply to you. <- oh it does though [03:02] DaemonFC /boot on Fedora 15 years ago was like a 150 MB partition? [03:02] matey it applies to me when i have to get newer hardware to run this shit. [03:02] DaemonFC Then 10 years ago it was 250. [03:02] DaemonFC Then a few years later it was 500. [03:03] DaemonFC Now it's a GB. [03:03] matey theyre windowsifying it. [03:03] DaemonFC And the number of old kernels it keeps around hasn't changed. [03:03] matey if we want to limit their control, we have to limit their contributions, and the fsf cant. [03:03] DaemonFC Well, the problem is that most users don't really want to fuck with partition size once they have an installation. [03:03] matey so the fsf is failing at its only real job. [03:03] matey and they dont seem to give a shit about this. [03:04] matey most users don't really want to fuck with partition size once they have an installation. <- i repartition on every install. [03:04] matey its not a big deal. [03:04] DaemonFC So if the kernel gets MUCH bigger a few years after you installed the OS originally, you may need to remove all old kernels and lower the number of old kernels before you can successfully upgrade your distribution again. [03:04] DaemonFC And that may only buy you another year or two. [03:04] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 116294 total Total number of pages in capsule: 40083 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 1 months 28 days ago [03:05] matey but heres the heart of the matter [03:05] matey to make free software work as a movement in the first place [03:05] matey we had to say "no" to big company bullshit [03:05] DaemonFC I think it keeps like 3 now. So, like, you could set it to two and then you'd have a while longer. [03:05] matey to say yes to something else [03:05] matey and the fsf cant say "no" [03:05] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 31 GB TotalOut: 6.7 GB [03:06] matey wrap a giant movement-destroying turd in a free license and all the fsf can say is "thank you" [03:06] matey the companies have figured it out [03:06] matey and the fsf hasnt. or wont bother telling the people it "fights" for [03:06] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:07] matey but linux is a turd, its one of many [03:07] DaemonFC Yeah, if the ability to turn off Secure Boot ever goes away, I'll probably just ditch the PC. [03:07] DaemonFC It's more of a liability than an asset these days and that'll be the last straw. [03:07] matey did you say fedora was thinking of deprecating it? [03:07] DaemonFC Like my mechanic telling me how many labor hours to untangle a rat's nest and find an electrical short in my car. [03:07] matey or deprecating legacy boot that is? [03:08] IPFS QmTXSm48sqA6HLeyyDAbAxdJ8GTxKK6mhdZHkkxWhkTEcn [03:08] DaemonFC Yeah, I mean, that could actually remove some bloat. [03:08] matey how many labor hours to untangle a rat's nest <- THATS EXACTLY WHAT THE LINUX KERNEL IS [03:08] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:08] matey too many labour hours to untangle a fucking rats nest [03:08] matey thats what systemdick is too [03:08] matey its the same as your impala [03:08] matey not the age of the model but the state of the one you own [03:09] matey and will rms mention any of this in his talk? [03:09] matey probably not. [03:09] matey they have nothing to say, they wont face the issues that plague them. [03:09] matey so theyre just going to bullshit and dance around the problems. [03:09] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [03:09] DaemonFC Extlinux only works on legacy BIOS. [03:09] DaemonFC So that saves 1 MB. [03:09] DaemonFC Hooray! [03:10] matey roy acts like if theyre throwing punches, its a real fight [03:10] matey you know, when someone throws a fight, they dont just stand motionless while someone beats the crap out of them [03:10] matey when someone throws a fight, they go through the motions to make it look believable. [03:11] matey but whenever the fsf throws one lousy punch, the fans go YOU SEE! THEYRE STILL DOING IT! [03:11] matey bullshit. [03:11] DaemonFC It's an intermittent problem. [03:11] matey howso? [03:11] DaemonFC So there's the possibility of spending a lot of money and still turning up nothing. [03:11] matey oh you mean the car? [03:11] DaemonFC So this is where I give the car back to mom and say "Don't drive it in bad weather or out of town.". [03:11] matey heh [03:12] matey youll get more mileage out of dumping it on her than you ever would fixing it [03:12] DaemonFC Well, there's a lot of new parts in there and it hardly ever acts up at this point. [03:13] DaemonFC Maybe a few times a year for 10 seconds each. [03:13] DaemonFC Just enough to scare you. [03:13] DaemonFC If you had another car and just used this one as a beater because you have it already, then it can do that until it rusts away. [03:14] DaemonFC She was in such a hurry to get rid of this one, she replaced it with a 2011 Impala from a used car lot and got another problem car. [03:14] DaemonFC The problem isn't really so much that it's an Impala. It's that she buys cars from disreputable businesses that get them from bankruptcy auctions and fleets that are finished with them. [03:15] DaemonFC She never figures out where the car was titled, or if it was in an accident. [03:15] DaemonFC So it could be Harvey car. Who knows? [03:15] matey they could get her to take a shittier one if they threw in a pair of airpods [03:15] DaemonFC You know, they get hurricane damage so they send them up here and auction them off with engines flooded out and electrical damage. [03:16] DaemonFC They unload them on a mark, like her. [03:16] matey that would explain the wiring [03:16] DaemonFC Get her to finance a $3,000 car warranty from some company that doesn't answer the phone. [03:16] DaemonFC Oh, she bought the 2003 new. [03:16] DaemonFC Well, kind of new. [03:16] DaemonFC THey gave her a $3,000 rebate because it was used for a driver's ed program in 2003. [03:16] DaemonFC On top of the GM family discount. [03:17] DaemonFC I could get the GM family discount on any new GM vehicle as long as grandma is alive. [03:17] DaemonFC But $1,500 off a $68,000 car really isn't that much. [03:17] matey no [03:17] DaemonFC It used to be $1,500 discount off of a decent car when a decent car was like $25,000. [03:17] DaemonFC So they nearly tripled the price of the car and the discount is the same, so it barely registers now. [03:18] DaemonFC I'm better off with a $7,500 2008 Buick. [03:28] matey in 1983 the bbc sent a computer program to viewers over the television broadcast itself https://yewtu.be/watch?v=VRduwRryVHE [03:28] TR Bot Making the Most of the Micro (10): At the End of the Line - Invidious [03:28] matey you "downloaded" it by recording the audio then playing it back over the cassette deck [03:29] matey now that its on youtube, you can still decode the audio into the program [03:31] matey you should be able to convert it with ffmpeg to audio, then use audacity to convert it from compressed audio to raw sound data [03:31] matey then a program can decode it from there [03:31] matey or if you have a program that converts data cassette audio to files, you could use that [03:32] matey or you could probably find a copy of the program, but that takes some of the magic out of it [03:33] DaemonFC Now, I could never go full Stallman. [03:34] DaemonFC Odd things don't grow on my foot, and I certainly wouldn't eat them if they did. [03:34] matey i think it was just a piece of skin [03:34] matey and as gross as you or i find that, its a common compulsion that is co-morbid with ocd and asd. [03:35] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67KtxG_0DVo [03:35] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=67KtxG_0DVo [03:35] TR Bot yewtu.be | Richard Stallman eats something from his foot- Average Joe Cringe Singles - Invidious [03:36] matey dermatophagia and dermatillomania are both (relatively) common [03:36] matey stallman probably isnt even the most famous sufferer [03:37] matey but most people who have it either arent as famous, or they are socially aware enough to avoid getting caught doing it [03:37] matey its too bad some dick decided to record it really [03:38] matey they might as well have recorded him taking a shit and uploaded that [03:38] matey like do you need to see stallman taking a shit? [03:38] matey no, but i guarantee you he does it regularly. [03:38] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8mOIAY_Jmw [03:38] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=U8mOIAY_Jmw [03:38] TR Bot yewtu.be | Richard Stallman "What Stands in the Way of Digital Freedom?" - Plenary Session - Invidious [03:38] matey the shame in it! [03:38] DaemonFC Stallman seems to be out of date. [03:38] matey on some things yeah [03:39] DaemonFC He says don't put copies of the video in Real or Quicktime or Flash. [03:39] matey whats this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8mOIAY_Jmw [03:39] DaemonFC None of those actually are a thing anymore. [03:39] matey He says don't put copies of the video in Real or Quicktime or Flash. <- when was this [03:39] DaemonFC Real and Quicktime switched to MPEG, which he covered already. [03:39] DaemonFC Flash is dead. [03:39] matey yes [03:39] DaemonFC Windows Media hasn't been popular on the Web in over a decade. [03:40] DaemonFC I've ran into a few of them, all very old files. [03:40] DaemonFC I didn't make them. Transcoding makes the quality worse. WMV is supported via a reverse engineered ffmpeg codec. [03:40] DaemonFC So available to VLC and Gstreamer. [03:40] matey i mean this was uploaded Shared October 30, 2014 [03:42] matey however [03:42] matey im not sure anyone around him keeps him very informed [03:42] matey and its worth wondering if theyre letting him stumble [03:42] matey if theres any opportunism going on [03:43] matey there doesnt have to be-- its possible to imagine situtions where they would make a reasonable effort and still fail [03:43] matey like if hes stubborn (not stallman!) and insists on making a point they swear doesnt need to be made [03:49] DaemonFC Marketing is the worst idea anyone has ever had. [03:49] DaemonFC They figured out how to triple the price of margarine. They call it "plant butter". [03:49] DaemonFC They figured out how to sell people liquid hand soap for four times as much, called "body wash". [03:49] DaemonFC I mean, big and small. [03:50] matey marketing is bullshitting lots of people by the standards of the profession [03:50] matey im still using a bottle of soap i bought in 2020 [03:51] matey and there are ALWAYS suds when i wash something [03:51] matey im not using scented water [03:51] matey im using soap [03:52] matey in fact i was using more, only it was irritating my skin so i cut back a little [03:52] matey now its lasting even longer [03:53] matey granted i havent been using it since 2020 [03:53] matey ive been using it for at least half a year [03:53] matey its going to last another half easy [03:53] matey i bought it in 2020 because i was concerned about running out of the other bottle [03:53] *mib_o0fqqo has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [03:53] matey which lasted another 6-12 months easy [03:54] matey so i spent a few dollars on soap a year [03:56] matey i do cheat a little. sometimes i get those wipes [03:56] matey ill use them for cleaning the bathroom, or the kitchen floor [03:57] matey ill use one to clean the counter [03:58] matey but i dont buy those often [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.56 k/sec., IPFS upstream 66.75 average k/sec., average swarm size 506.26 ● Apr 08 [04:09] matey They figured out how to triple the price of margarine. They call it "plant butter" <- they should just call it "a cheap death" [04:09] matey margarine should have a warning label like cigarettes [04:14] matey fucking tiny sculptures https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dJbzL3ezob4 [04:14] TR Bot Willard Wigan makes the smallest handmade sculpture in history - Invidious [04:19] matey strong little robots https://yewtu.be/watch?v=FLFse2RcuRU [04:19] TR Bot 6 Microrobots Move A Car 18,000 Times Their Weight - Invidious [04:40] *matey has quit (connection closed) [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 67.90 average k/sec., average swarm size 397.56 ● Apr 08 [05:11] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:17] DaemonFC I got approved fo $10 a month internet access. [05:22] DaemonFC The tech support for Comcast is at home right now. [05:22] DaemonFC Nice [05:23] DaemonFC Their system actually says that and hangs up. [05:33] DaemonFC Guess I'll just have to call tomorrow. [05:33] DaemonFC My landlord weed whacked my Comcast line last year. [05:33] DaemonFC Then I cancelled it because it was too expensive. [05:33] DaemonFC Should have just let them fix it instead of limping by with T-Mobile's trash can. [05:38] DaemonFC Essentials Plan [05:38] DaemonFC Download speeds: up to 50 Mbps [05:38] DaemonFC Upload speeds: up to 10 Mbps [05:38] DaemonFC MinceR, I'd buy that for $10! [05:39] DaemonFC Well, I was looking at the Internal Revenue Code. [05:40] DaemonFC The ACP says that we're low income because of a weird tax situation we ended up in last year. [05:40] DaemonFC So like, we just basically squeaked in, but the National Verify system said I was good when I showed it my tax return. [05:40] DaemonFC Anyway, even if I only get this for a year, it'll save me about $500. [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.45 k/sec., IPFS upstream 38.75 average k/sec., average swarm size 287.23 ● Apr 08 [06:00] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [06:01] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@wur4yxm4zkucn.irc) has joined #techrights [06:15] DaemonFC https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=24357&id=18732&id=12885 [06:15] TR Bot Compare Side-by-Side [06:15] DaemonFC The fuel economy of my 96 Crown Victoria and 2003 Impala LS, and the Buick Lacrosse I want to buy. [06:16] DaemonFC MinceR, I want something really big that goes real fast and gets really shitty gas mileage! [06:16] DaemonFC The 6000 SUX. 8.6 MPG. An American Tradition. [06:20] DaemonFC I wish I had bought that $500 1988 Buick Skylark from that old fuck that I used to live next door to when I was a kid. [06:21] DaemonFC Old people pinch pennies and take really good care of their car and keep the mileage off it and then their kids go "I don't want this reliable car with no rust that I don't owe any money on." when their parents die. [06:21] DaemonFC "It's dated!" [06:22] DaemonFC "It doesn't have a tablet in the dashboard that won't even work 5 years from when you buy the car!". [06:22] DaemonFC I thought we'd reached peak "Everything has a tablet no matter how stupid." with refrigerators. [06:33] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, April 07, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [06:33] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [06:34] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [06:34] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [06:35] schestowitz-TR [06:22] I thought we'd reached peak "Everything has a tablet no matter how stupid." with refrigerators. [06:35] schestowitz-TR no, wait [06:35] schestowitz-TR they do even smaller appliances now [06:35] schestowitz-TR so you can show off to yourself [06:35] schestowitz-TR of course these things break down more often [06:35] schestowitz-TR and each time it's harder and more expensive to repair [06:36] schestowitz-TR those tablets won't last 30 years like your (grand)parents' fridge [06:37] TR News "What Stands in the Way of Digital Freedom?" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=U8mOIAY_Jmw [06:37] TR Bot Richard Stallman "What Stands in the Way of Digital Freedom?" - Plenary Session - Invidious [06:39] *ashes (~b9dc6523@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [06:41] schestowitz-TR hi ashes [06:43] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, That's why I want the 2008 Buick. It is maybe one of the last decent cars you can still own. [06:43] DaemonFC If you can find one in good shape and "Cuba" it, you may escape the "smart" cars for a long time/ [06:43] TR News Well, "by the end of 2022" this war will likely be over https://news.err.ee/1608557521/estonia-to-stop-importing-russian-gas-by-end-of-2022 [06:43] TR Bot Estonia to stop importing Russian gas by end of 2022 | Ukraine Latest | ERR [06:43] *ashes has quit (Quit: https://mibbit.com Online IRC Client) [06:44] TR News Fake "meat" is about saving animals, not "the planet" https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/21283-fake-meat-will-not-save-the-planet-experts.html [06:44] Alternative link CloudFlare: helsinkitimes.fi | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/21283-fake-meat-will-not-save-the-planet-experts.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/21283-fake-meat-will-not-save-the-planet-experts.html [06:44] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/21283-fake-meat-will-not-save-the-planet-experts.html ) [06:44] TR News Let's hope people will now realise it's time to stop contributing to Twitter ttps://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/04/elon-musk-twitter-free-speech/629479/ [06:46] TR News Facebook = Misinformation/Disinformation hub https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3261763-russian-backed-hackers-spreading-disinformation-on-facebook/ not just Russians [06:46] TR Bot Russian-backed hackers spreading disinformation on Facebook | The Hill [06:46] schestowitz-TR [06:43] schestowitz-TR, That's why I want the 2008 Buick. It is maybe one of the last decent cars you can still own. [06:46] schestowitz-TR this is a fair point [06:46] schestowitz-TR if it's 2008-made, then likely none of the "smart" crap [06:47] TR News "A group of Muslims had filed a petition to the authorities accusing Bala of posting uncomplimentary messages about Islam on social media" https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-60997606 [06:47] Alternative link CloudFlare: bbc.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-60997606 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-60997606 [06:47] TR Bot atheist Mubarak Bala jailed for blaspheming Islam - BBC News [06:48] TR News "If we want to honor his memory, more of us should commit to his unflinching attention to the role of the media in creating the mess were in today" https://www.thenation.com/article/society/eric-boehlert-media-criticism/ [06:48] Alternative link CloudFlare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/society/eric-boehlert-media-criticism/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.thenation.com/article/society/eric-boehlert-media-criticism/ [06:48] TR Bot Eric Boehlert Got Everything Right About Our Petty, Self-Congratulating Media | The Nation [06:49] TR News "Columnist Ender mrek faces charges of insulting the president" https://www.turkishminute.com/2022/04/05/umnist-for-left-wing-daily-indicted-on-erdogan-insult-charges-due-to-article-on-forest-fires/ [06:49] Alternative link CloudFlare: turkishminute.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.turkishminute.com/2022/04/05/umnist-for-left-wing-daily-indicted-on-erdogan-insult-charges-due-to-article-on-forest-fires/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.turkishminute.com/2022/04/05/umnist-for-left-wing-daily-indicted-on-erdogan-insult-charges-due-to-article-on-forest-fires/ [06:49] TR Bot Columnist for left-wing daily indicted on Erdoan insult charges due to article on forest fires - Turkish Minute [06:50] TR News Boycott SweatshopZAone https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/7/23015642/amazon-alu-union-victory-staten-island-objection-plan [06:50] TR Bot Amazon plans to object to union victory in New York - The Verge [06:50] TR News "The win is striking for a number of reasons, including that ALU is a scrappy effort unaligned with an established labor union." https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/04/tech/amazon-labor-union-staten-island-whats-next/index.html [06:50] Alternative link CloudFlare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/04/tech/amazon-labor-union-staten-island-whats-next/index.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/04/tech/amazon-labor-union-staten-island-whats-next/index.html [06:50] TR Bot Amazon warehouse workers in New York made history voting for a union. Here's what could happen next - CNN [06:51] TR News "The U.S. National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) is giving Amazon until April 22 to back up its objections to last week's election in New York" https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/amazon-objects-unions-victory-staten-island-alleging-interference-2022-04-07/ [06:51] TR Bot objecting to union's victory in New York, alleging interference | Reuters [06:51] TR News "Their win was instantly remarkable: the first Amazon union outside of Europe." https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/how-to-unionize-at-amazon [06:51] Alternative link CloudFlare: newyorker.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/how-to-unionize-at-amazon https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/how-to-unionize-at-amazon [06:51] TR Bot How to Unionize at Amazon | The New Yorker [06:51] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@6byxczt6txq2u.irc) has joined #techrights [06:51] TR News "In the end, the approach succeeded where far bigger, wealthier and more established unions have repeatedly fallen short" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/07/business/economy/amazon-union-labor.html [06:51] Alternative link CloudFlare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/07/business/economy/amazon-union-labor.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/07/business/economy/amazon-union-labor.html [06:51] TR Bot Amazon Union Success May Point to a New Labor Playbook - The New York Times [06:52] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:53] TR News "... the exact same article ..." https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/has-windows-11-adoption-really-stopped:5 see http://techrights.org/2022/04/04/windows-floundering/ [06:53] Alternative link CloudFlare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/has-windows-11-adoption-really-stopped:5 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/has-windows-11-adoption-really-stopped:5 [06:53] TR Bot Has Windows 11 Adoption Really Stopped? [06:53] TR Bot 6 Months After Vista 11s Official Release the Market Share of Windows Falls to 28% (All-Time Low) | Techrights [06:53] TR News Dilbert Invents Energy Source - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2022-04-07 | Dilbert by Scott Adams

Read more [06:53] TR Bot Invents Energy Source - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2022-04-07 | Dilbert by Scott Adams [06:54] TR News European Pirates Newsletter http://urlpir.at/Newsletter032022 [06:54] TR Bot European Pirates Newsletter [06:54] TR News Amazon, Gulag Busted Faking Small Business Opposition to Antitrust Reform - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/politics/article.pl?sid=22/04/06/0344244 Source: soylentnews [06:54] TR Bot Amazon, Google Busted Faking Small Business Opposition to Antitrust Reform - SoylentNews [06:55] TR News Moodle is a great success for Free software https://www.businessnewsaustralia.com/articles/moodle-the-perth-based-open-source-software-that-has-taken-global-education-by-storm.html businessnewsaustralia blocked by javascript [06:55] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.businessnewsaustralia.com/articles/moodle-the-perth-based-open-source-software-that-has-taken-global-education-by-storm.html ) [06:55] Alternative link CloudFlare: businessnewsaustralia.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businessnewsaustralia.com/articles/moodle-the-perth-based-open-source-software-that-has-taken-global-education-by-storm.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.businessnewsaustralia.com/articles/moodle-the-perth-based-open-source-software-that-has-taken-global-education-by-storm.html [06:57] TR News Microsoft Windows https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/04/actions-target-russian-govt-botnet-hydra-dark-market/ [06:57] TR Bot Actions Target Russian Govt. Botnet, Hydra Dark Market Krebs on Security [06:58] TR News "The Hill" has just issued Microsoft propaganda which wants you to think Microsoft "disrupts" Russia cyberattacks in Ukraine; Microsoft itself is the attacker. Those attacks are happening BECAUSE of Microsoft. [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 63.43 average k/sec., average swarm size 507.11 ● Apr 08 [07:00] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Faster to write a check to yourself and mobile deposit it to your other bank than do ACH. :/ [07:00] DaemonFC Says $5,000 can be transferred in 1 day using a check and then doing mobile deposit. [07:00] DaemonFC The car doesn't cost much more than that. [07:01] TR News Theft by oligarchs https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/07/jab-manchin-sanders-demands-strategic-pause-corporate-welfare see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ [07:01] Alternative link CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/07/jab-manchin-sanders-demands-strategic-pause-corporate-welfare https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/07/jab-manchin-sanders-demands-strategic-pause-corporate-welfare [07:01] TR Bot In Jab at Manchin, Sanders Demands 'Strategic Pause' in Corporate Welfare [07:01] DaemonFC I'm going to ask the guy to meet me at my bank and I'll have them write him a counter check off of my account. I don't want to walk around Chicago with car money. [07:01] TR Bot The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights [07:02] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I joked earlier that the money depreciates faster than the cars you can buy with it now. [07:02] schestowitz-TR no [07:02] schestowitz-TR cars lose value fast and you will need repair [07:02] DaemonFC Even if I just bought this car and drove it around for a while, there's a good chance that in the next year or two, I could sell it for more than I bought it for even though I drove it around a couple years. [07:02] schestowitz-TR if sold cheaply, be suspicious [07:02] schestowitz-TR maybe something already comes apart [07:03] DaemonFC I got the service history. [07:04] DaemonFC It said they replaced a front stabilizer bar as well as one lower control arm and a lateral arm last year. [07:04] DaemonFC They might have hit a pothole or something. [07:05] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I doubt that the car is in terrible shape at 55,000 miles. [07:06] DaemonFC They put less than 4,000 miles per year on it. [07:06] schestowitz-TR maybe desperate for cash [07:06] DaemonFC In fact, that's why the fair price is relatively higher than others in the area. [07:06] schestowitz-TR sold cheaply fast [07:06] schestowitz-TR like the home we live in [07:06] schestowitz-TR you can hope that's the reason [07:06] schestowitz-TR and maybe you'll be lucky [07:06] DaemonFC The blue book says $1,350 is added to the value for being below average miles. [07:07] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Yeah, Shaq (my mechanic) says there's nothing wrong with it and that the guy just doesn't get out anymore. [07:08] TR News "Tor Browser 11.0.10 is now available from the Tor Browser download page and also from our distribution directory" https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-11010/ [07:08] TR Bot New Release: Tor Browser 11.0.10 (Windows, macOS, Linux) | The Tor Project [07:08] DaemonFC He says it sat in the garage throughout COVID and then the guy put new tires on it and did some odds and ends and then now he decides he doesn't even drive much anymore and wants money. [07:08] schestowitz-TR sounds plausible [07:08] DaemonFC He said, "But the guy wants you to know that $7,500 is the price of the car. He won't take less.". [07:08] schestowitz-TR given it was not driven much before either [07:09] DaemonFC I told him I wasn't going to beat the guy up over the price if the car is indeed in good condition. [07:09] DaemonFC Now if I got there and he wants $7,500 and it's going to need work right away I might start trying to trim some off of the price to make repairs. [07:10] schestowitz-TR if you end up living inside the car again, that'll be a good investment LOL [07:10] DaemonFC That hasn't happened lately. [07:10] schestowitz-TR and mandy can piss off his sister [07:10] DaemonFC I was 18 when I lived in my car last time. [07:10] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The joke's on MARISOL. [07:10] DaemonFC I paid cash and got a car that's better than her stupid BMW that breaks all the time. [07:10] DaemonFC $1,000 wheel bearing hubs. [07:11] TR News Surveillance https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/catalog-carceral-surveillance-tablet-advertising-can-also-issue-discipline [07:11] TR Bot The Catalog of Carceral Surveillance: Tablet Advertising That Can Also Issue Discipline | Electronic Frontier Foundation [07:11] TR News "The report reveals a troubling trend among Paraguayan internet and telecommunications providers: most dont publish reports with statistical data on such requests" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/brighter-stars-and-persistent-gaps-mark-new-paraguays-who-defends-your-data-report [07:11] TR Bot Brighter Stars and Persistent Gaps Mark New Paraguays Who Defends Your Data Report | Electronic Frontier Foundation [07:11] DaemonFC When I was laughing about that she got mad and said they were always nice to her there and they had gourmet coffee. [07:12] DaemonFC I told Mandy "I hope they have gourmet coffee with $1,000 wheel hub bearings and tires that are $350 each. I hope they kissed her first.". [07:12] TR News "Welcome to the April edition of the monthly Fortran newsletter." https://fortran-lang.org/newsletter/2022/04/07/Fortran-Newsletter-April-2022/ [07:12] TR Bot Fortran newsletter: April 2022 - Fortran Programming Language [07:12] DaemonFC BMW is just weird, schestowitz-TR [07:13] DaemonFC Every other dealer, you can talk them down if you want a extended warranty. [07:13] DaemonFC BMWs are "the price in the computer". Not negotiable. [07:13] DaemonFC And if you don't buy one you're on the hook for serious repair costs, most likely. [07:15] DaemonFC https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-politics/heres-who-will-be-eligible-for-direct-inflation-relief-payments-from-the-state-of-illinois/2801941/?_osource=SocialFlowFB_CHBrand [07:15] TR Bot Heres Who Will be Eligible for Direct Inflation Relief Payments From the State of Illinois NBC Chicago [07:15] DaemonFC The state is doing a stimulus bill now. [07:15] DaemonFC $50 per taxpayer. Woohoo. [07:15] TR News "Dafydd began his career supporting cultural heritage organizations to digitize their collections and publish them online. He also led the formation of the National Library of Waless (NLW) policy on open access and its successful collaboration with Wikimedia." https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/07/episode-19-open-culture-voices-dafydd-tudur/ [07:15] Alternative link CloudFlare: creativecommons.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/07/episode-19-open-culture-voices-dafydd-tudur/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/07/episode-19-open-culture-voices-dafydd-tudur/ [07:15] TR Bot Episode 19: Open Culture VOICES Dafydd Tudur - Creative Commons [07:15] DaemonFC We get $100. That'll fill your gas tank for like a month I guess. [07:15] DaemonFC Ugh, it's getting late. Better go to bed. [07:16] DaemonFC Have to call comcrap tomorrow. [07:16] TR News "Marco has been working with museums, archives and libraries across Europe for two decades to support them in their digital transformation, advocate open access, gain extensive experience in the design and implementation of digital libraries, and promote innovation in the cultural heritage sector in Europe." https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/07/episode-20-open-culture-voices-marco-rendina/ [07:16] Alternative link CloudFlare: creativecommons.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/07/episode-20-open-culture-voices-marco-rendina/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/07/episode-20-open-culture-voices-marco-rendina/ [07:16] TR Bot Episode 20: Open Culture VOICES Marco Rendina - Creative Commons [07:16] DaemonFC Get a tech out here to fix their mangled line so I can go back to having slightly less craptacular internet. [07:16] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:20] TR News "We will continue to hold Amazon accountable and ensure workers' voices are heard." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/07/labor-group-files-objections-amazons-conduct-during-alabama-union-election [07:20] Alternative link CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/07/labor-group-files-objections-amazons-conduct-during-alabama-union-election https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/07/labor-group-files-objections-amazons-conduct-during-alabama-union-election [07:20] TR Bot Labor Group Files Objections to Amazon's Conduct During Alabama Union Election [07:21] TR News Boycott Starbucks "https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/07/union-once-again-cleans-starbucks-clock-worker-wins-against-coffee-giant-continue [07:21] TR Bot 'The Union Once Again Cleans Starbucks' Clock': Worker Wins Against Coffee Giant Continue [07:22] TR News "Despite a massive amount of spending and tactical maneuvering to derail the effort, Amazon factory workers just successfully voted to form the companys first union on Staten..." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/new-amazon-employee-chat-app-bans-terms-like-grievance-and-living-wage/ [07:22] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/new-amazon-employee-chat-app-bans-terms-like-grievance-and-living-wage/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/new-amazon-employee-chat-app-bans-terms-like-grievance-and-living-wage/ [07:22] TR Bot Amazon Employee Chat App Bans Terms Like Grievance and Living Wage | Techdirt [07:23] TR News Again techdirt says "Big Tech" and helps shift attention away from Microsoft's criminals https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/shifting-sands-in-the-tech-sector/ [07:23] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/shifting-sands-in-the-tech-sector/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/shifting-sands-in-the-tech-sector/ [07:23] TR Bot Sands In The Tech Sector | Techdirt [07:24] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [07:28] TR News Painting Dissent as Mentally Ill https://www.mintpressnews.com/liberals-adopting-soviet-tactic-painting-dissent-mentally-ill/280160/ [07:28] Alternative link CloudFlare: mintpressnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.mintpressnews.com/liberals-adopting-soviet-tactic-painting-dissent-mentally-ill/280160/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.mintpressnews.com/liberals-adopting-soviet-tactic-painting-dissent-mentally-ill/280160/ [07:28] TR Bot Liberals Are Adopting an Old Soviet Tactic: Painting Dissent as Mentally Ill [07:34] TR News Code Pinks Panel on Media Censorship of Voices for Peace Featuring Abby Martin, Lee Camp and Chris Hedges - The Project Censored Show https://www.projectcensored.org/code-pinks-panel-on-media-censorship-of-voices-for-peace-featuring-abby-martin-lee-camp-and-chris-hedge/ [07:34] Alternative link CloudFlare: projectcensored.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.projectcensored.org/code-pinks-panel-on-media-censorship-of-voices-for-peace-featuring-abby-martin-lee-camp-and-chris-hedge/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.projectcensored.org/code-pinks-panel-on-media-censorship-of-voices-for-peace-featuring-abby-martin-lee-camp-and-chris-hedge/ [07:34] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/code-pinks-panel-on-media-censorship-of-voices-for-peace-featuring-abby-martin-lee-camp-and-chris-hedge/ ) [07:35] TR News In the name of 'protecting' you, GulagTube purges lots of pro-peace videos, or anti-war material [07:38] TR News Open Source Robotic Lawn Mower https://hackaday.com/2022/04/07/openmower-open-source-robotic-lawn-mower-with-rtk-gps/ [07:38] TR Bot Open Source Robotic Lawn Mower With RTK GPS | Hackaday [07:38] TR News Arduino https://hackaday.com/2022/04/07/stress-testing-an-arduinos-eeprom/ [07:38] TR Bot An Arduinos EEPROM | Hackaday [07:40] TR News US capitalism looking more like organised crime at this point https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-us-shouldnt-give-bezos-a-10-billion-bailout-for-his-space-hobby/ also see Microsoft: http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ [07:40] Alternative link CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-us-shouldnt-give-bezos-a-10-billion-bailout-for-his-space-hobby/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/sanders-us-shouldnt-give-bezos-a-10-billion-bailout-for-his-space-hobby/ [07:40] TR Bot Sanders: US Shouldn't Give Bezos a "$10 Billion Bailout" for His "Space Hobby" [07:40] TR Bot The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights [07:42] TR News "Critics refer to this bill as the Facebook Law because it targets online content on social media sites including but not limited to Facebook" https://www.projectcensored.org/how-israels-facebook-law-threatens-free-speech/ [07:42] Alternative link CloudFlare: projectcensored.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.projectcensored.org/how-israels-facebook-law-threatens-free-speech/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.projectcensored.org/how-israels-facebook-law-threatens-free-speech/ [07:42] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/how-israels-facebook-law-threatens-free-speech/ ) [07:44] TR News Unions https://truthout.org/articles/union-filings-have-increased-57-percent-in-the-last-six-months-labor-board-says [07:44] Alternative link CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/union-filings-have-increased-57-percent-in-the-last-six-months-labor-board-says https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/union-filings-have-increased-57-percent-in-the-last-six-months-labor-board-says [07:44] TR Bot Union Filings Have Increased 57 Percent in the Last Six Months, Labor Board Says [07:45] TR News illegal https://truthout.org/articles/labor-boards-top-counsel-argues-anti-union-meetings-are-inherently-illegal/ [07:45] Alternative link CloudFlare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/labor-boards-top-counsel-argues-anti-union-meetings-are-inherently-illegal/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/labor-boards-top-counsel-argues-anti-union-meetings-are-inherently-illegal/ [07:45] TR Bot Labor Boards Top Counsel Argues Anti-Union Meetings Are Inherently Illegal [07:47] TR News EARN IT Act https://www.projectcensored.org/earn-it-act-threatens-online-freedom-of-expression-under-guise-of-policing-child-pornography/ [07:47] Alternative link CloudFlare: projectcensored.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.projectcensored.org/earn-it-act-threatens-online-freedom-of-expression-under-guise-of-policing-child-pornography/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.projectcensored.org/earn-it-act-threatens-online-freedom-of-expression-under-guise-of-policing-child-pornography/ [07:47] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/earn-it-act-threatens-online-freedom-of-expression-under-guise-of-policing-child-pornography/ ) [07:49] TR News Internet Used https://www.projectcensored.org/law-enforcement-given-invasive-access-to-internet-user-information/ [07:49] Alternative link CloudFlare: projectcensored.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.projectcensored.org/law-enforcement-given-invasive-access-to-internet-user-information/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.projectcensored.org/law-enforcement-given-invasive-access-to-internet-user-information/ [07:49] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/law-enforcement-given-invasive-access-to-internet-user-information/ ) [07:49] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@km3w6imixyp52.irc) has joined #techrights [07:52] TR News Gulag and DMCA https://torrentfreak.com/bungie-vs-fake-dmca-notices-google-refuses-to-hand-over-user-data-220407/ [07:52] Alternative link CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/bungie-vs-fake-dmca-notices-google-refuses-to-hand-over-user-data-220407/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/bungie-vs-fake-dmca-notices-google-refuses-to-hand-over-user-data-220407/ [07:52] TR Bot vs Fake DMCA Notices: Google Refuses to Hand Over User Data * TorrentFreak [07:52] *darwin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:53] TR News "1337x.to, one of the world's most-visited torrent sites, has become unreachable over the past few days. The site's DNS records have been wiped" https://torrentfreak.com/1337x-to-is-unreachable-after-domain-name-expired-220407/ [07:53] Alternative link CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/1337x-to-is-unreachable-after-domain-name-expired-220407/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/1337x-to-is-unreachable-after-domain-name-expired-220407/ [07:53] TR Bot is Unreachable After Domain Name Expired (Updated) * TorrentFreak [07:53] TR News SBCs with GNU/Linux https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/coolest-projects-global-2022-feedback-swag-medals/ [07:53] Alternative link CloudFlare: raspberrypi.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/coolest-projects-global-2022-feedback-swag-medals/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/coolest-projects-global-2022-feedback-swag-medals/ [07:53] TR Bot Three new reasons to register for Coolest Projects Global 2022 - Raspberry Pi [07:53] SomeH4x0r could use /etc/hosts. Any tools to make such stuff automated? [07:54] SomeH4x0r At least copying the IP addresses for all doains resolved to some file [07:54] SomeH4x0r *domains [07:55] schestowitz-TR most people would not do this [07:55] TR News Trademark extremism https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/06/ufo-magazine-sues-showtime-networks-over-ufo-series-for-trademark-infringement/ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/lauren-boebert-threatens-disneys-mickey-mouse-trademark-extension-which-isnt-a-thing/ [07:55] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/06/ufo-magazine-sues-showtime-networks-over-ufo-series-for-trademark-infringement/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/06/ufo-magazine-sues-showtime-networks-over-ufo-series-for-trademark-infringement/ [07:55] TR Bot Magazine Sues Showtime Networks Over UFO Series For Trademark Infringement | Techdirt [07:55] TR Bot Boebert Threatens Disneys Mickey Mouse Trademark Extension, Which Isnt A Thing | Techdirt [07:57] TR News Gulag being a gulag https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/google-radar-chip [07:57] Alternative link CloudFlare: privateinternetaccess.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/google-radar-chip https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/google-radar-chip [07:57] TR Bot Google's Radar Chip: Real-Time Biometric Data Collection [07:58] TR News Making music becoming illegal? https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/ed-sheeran-gets-it-as-he-wins-his-copyright-lawsuit-he-decries-culture-of-bogus-copyright-suits/ [07:58] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/ed-sheeran-gets-it-as-he-wins-his-copyright-lawsuit-he-decries-culture-of-bogus-copyright-suits/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/ed-sheeran-gets-it-as-he-wins-his-copyright-lawsuit-he-decries-culture-of-bogus-copyright-suits/ [07:58] TR Bot Sheeran Gets It: As He Wins His Copyright Lawsuit, He Decries Culture Of Bogus Copyright Suits | Techdirt [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.91 k/sec., IPFS upstream 65.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 279.08 [07:59] TR News Why does techdirt help promote this lie that FB does encryption???? https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/social-responsibility-organization-says-metas-embrace-of-encryption-is-important-for-human-rights [07:59] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/social-responsibility-organization-says-metas-embrace-of-encryption-is-important-for-human-rights https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/social-responsibility-organization-says-metas-embrace-of-encryption-is-important-for-human-rights [07:59] TR Bot Responsibility Organization Says Metas Embrace Of Encryption Is Important For Human Rights | Techdirt ● Apr 08 [08:01] TR News US: slow connections, crazy pricing https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/comcast-demands-19000-for-broadband-in-yet-another-consumer-nightmare/ [08:01] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/comcast-demands-19000-for-broadband-in-yet-another-consumer-nightmare/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/comcast-demands-19000-for-broadband-in-yet-another-consumer-nightmare/ [08:01] TR Bot Demands $19,000 For Broadband In Yet Another Consumer Nightmare | Techdirt [08:03] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [08:03] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:05] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [08:07] TR News Wccftech, by virtue of being megaphone of Phoronix, is now AMD marketing, and as AMD is a Microsoft booster, Wccftech follows with Michael's Microsoft boosting. Phoronix has no credibility left. Marketing site. [08:08] TR News Top 5 Most Stable Linux Distros To Try 2022 (Developers/Laptops) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163487 [08:08] TR Bot Top 5 Most Stable Linux Distros To Try 2022 (Developers/Laptops) | Tux Machines [08:13] TR News EasyOS 3.4.5 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163488 [08:13] TR Bot EasyOS 3.4.5 | Tux Machines [08:20] TR News Mozilla Localization (L10N): L10n Report: April 2022 Edition https://blog.mozilla.org/l10n/2022/04/08/l10n-report-april-2022-edition/ [08:20] Alternative link CloudFlare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/l10n/2022/04/08/l10n-report-april-2022-edition/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.mozilla.org/l10n/2022/04/08/l10n-report-april-2022-edition/ [08:20] TR Bot L10n Report: April 2022 Edition | Mozilla L10N [08:20] TR News Raspberry Pi OS removes default "Pi" username, adds experimental support for Wayland Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163489 [08:20] TR Bot Raspberry Pi OS removes default "Pi" username, adds experimental support for Wayland | Tux Machines [08:21] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163490 [08:21] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [08:21] TR News Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Autodesk Arnold Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163491 [08:21] TR Bot Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Autodesk Arnold | Tux Machines [08:21] TR News Open Hardware: SBCs, Arduino, and OpenMower Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163492 [08:21] TR Bot Open Hardware: SBCs, Arduino, and OpenMower | Tux Machines [08:25] schestowitz (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D196.jpg [08:25] schestowitz (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D554.jpg [08:26] TR News Re: The Theological Problem Behind Firefox in Ubuntu 22.04 gemini://ew.srht.site/en/2022/20220407-re-ploum.gmi [08:28] TR News Re: Rat in the Engine gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~nristen/gemlog/20220407.gmi [08:28] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163493 [08:28] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [08:29] TR News "'3 Man Chess: In The Round' was once created by Clif W. King, the board set used to be US-patented but the patent expired." gemini://g.mikf.pl/gemlog/2022-04-07-3mc.gmi [08:31] TR News "It is probably not an uncommon thing, nor am I the first. However, I might surprise myself that I am working this way now. My environment for spending free time in Geminispace and Gophersphere is text-only environment. Which I've set up from nothing, and without any special experience." gemini://szczezuja.space/gemlog/2022-04-07-Text-only-user-interface-environment.gmi [08:33] TR News "I have no idea how I ended up here. Switched from Windows to Linux yesterday and had no idea what the Gemini protocol was." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/880 [08:34] TR News "I love the Matrix protocol, but it seems every desktop client for it sucks in some way. Clients like Element are the most feature-rich by far, but are webapps running on Electron." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/877 [08:36] TR News IRC Proceedings: Thursday, April 07, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/irc-log-070422/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/08/irc-log-070422/ [08:36] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Thursday, April 07, 2022 | Techrights [08:54] TR News Links 08/04/2022: EasyOS 3.4.5 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/easyos-3-4-5/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/08/easyos-3-4-5/ [08:54] TR Bot Links 08/04/2022: EasyOS 3.4.5 | Techrights [08:55] TR News Mozilla Localization and or Tor Browser 11.0.10 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163494 [08:55] TR Bot Mozilla Localization and or Tor Browser 11.0.10 | Tux Machines [08:55] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163495 [08:55] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.65 k/sec., IPFS upstream 96.73 average k/sec., average swarm size 272.96 ● Apr 08 [09:04] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:06] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [09:20] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [09:20] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@f69b23k64y8iw.irc) has joined #techrights [09:26] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:36] *CParadoxum__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:44] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [09:49] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:52] TR News FreeBSD 13.1-RC2 Now Available Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163496 [09:52] TR Bot FreeBSD 13.1-RC2 Now Available | Tux Machines [09:58] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights ● Apr 08 [10:06] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:07] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [10:10] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:10] *CParadoxum__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [10:16] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [10:19] *CParadoxum__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:19] *CParadoxum__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [10:37] *CParadoxum__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:40] *CParadoxum__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [10:46] *gooseheaded_ (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [10:47] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:49] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [10:49] *gooseheaded_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:51] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:52] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [10:58] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 28.91 average k/sec., average swarm size 340.86 ● Apr 08 [11:05] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [11:06] *CParadoxum__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:08] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [11:13] *CParadoxum__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [11:14] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:16] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [11:17] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:17] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [11:21] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:28] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [11:32] *gooseheaded_ (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [11:33] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:34] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [11:35] *gooseheaded_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:39] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [11:45] *CParadoxum__ has quit (Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) [11:50] *CParadoxum__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [11:58] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) ● Apr 08 [12:09] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:11] *alextee (~alextee@2mavpjhjkd624.irc) has joined #techrights [12:11] alextee is there any way to join this channel via matrix? [12:14] *CParadoxum__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:14] *CParadoxum__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [12:16] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:17] XRevan86 alextee: no [12:17] TR News d-narratives-and-product-marketing-fake-endorsements-in-geminispace-will-grow-and-its-a-risk-to-geminis-reputation-or-selling-point/ [12:18] alextee XRevan86, I see, thanks [12:18] TR News d-narratives-and-product-marketing-fake-endorsements-in-geminispace-will-grow-and-its-a-risk-to-geminis-reputation-or-selling-point/ [12:19] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@472igxb9hwwik.irc) has joined #techrights [12:20] TR News IBM and Fedora: Stop Being Poor! Buy a New PC! | Gemini address: IBM and Fedora: Stop Being Poor! Buy a New PC! [12:20] *matey (~matey@r6euiqubu4z6w.irc) has joined #techrights [12:22] TR News d-narratives-and-product-marketing-fake-endorsements-in-geminispace-will-grow-and-its-a-risk-to-geminis-reputation-or-selling-point/ [12:22] schestowitz he Temptation to Promote Paid Narratives and Product Marketing (Fake Endorsements) in Geminispace Will Grow and Its a Risk to Geminis Reputation or Selling Point http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/the-temptation-to-promote-paid-narratives-and-product-marketing-fake-endorsements-in-geminispace-will-grow-and-its-a-risk-to-geminis-reputation-or-selling-point/ [12:22] TR Bot The Temptation to Promote Paid Narratives and Product Marketing (Fake Endorsements) in Geminispace Will Grow and Its a Risk to Geminis Reputation or Selling Point | Techrights [12:22] schestowitz I see what the issue is [12:22] schestowitz I forget to set a post slug ^_^ [12:23] XRevan86 https://opensource.org/blog/modified-agplv3-removes-freedoms-adds-legal-headaches Apparently they actually did take the Commons Clause licensed version of the code and then removed the CC. [12:23] TR Bot Modified AGPLv3 removes freedoms, adds legal headaches | Open Source Initiative | Guaranteeing the 'our' in source... [12:30] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [12:31] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:41] schestowitz imagine OSI also doing a blog post about the threats of GitHub [12:41] schestowitz oh, wait [12:41] schestowitz they can't [12:41] schestowitz Microsoft and 'GitHub' BOTh bribe OSI [12:41] schestowitz So OSI promotes the attacker [12:43] TR News "Around 20 years ago I was early enough in my career that I still harbored the illusion that there was any way to hold back the insanity of people. My frustrations were mounting and I found solace in reading things from similarly beset individuals." gemini://going-flying.com/~mernisse/26.gmi [12:44] TR News "Last Saturday I finally had some free time, so I started on another item from my to-do list: setting up my own capsule. The official motivations are to get back in practice as a sysadmin (it's been a while since I've had my own server." gemini://leafstorm.smol.pub/2022-04-07-capsule-under-construction [12:45] TR News "So I found myself going on a small weekend trip, and at the last moment, I decided that instead of taking my normal, powerful, full-featured 10-year-old laptop, I would take my smol, underpowered 10-year-old laptop. This amounts to a choice limit my computing activity to writing, email, and Gemini/Gopher over the weekend." gemini://carcosa.net/journal/20220407-imp-of-the-perverse.gmi [12:45] TR News "There are 2313 capsules. We successfully connected recently to 1846 of them." gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi [12:48] matey if the threats of github are a minority opinion even among gnu developers, it wouldnt take a bribe for osi to promote github [12:50] matey im aware that osi is bribed of course, and that microsoft runs the show [12:50] matey but github is the sort of thing osi would promote anyway [12:51] matey nitpicking licenses (a good idea wrt to commons clause) on the other hand, is also the sort of thing osi has always been about [12:51] schestowitz-TR right, exactly [12:51] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [12:51] schestowitz-TR but we need to keep reminding people what osi is [12:51] *techrights_guest|80 (~4fc3d664@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [12:51] schestowitz-TR who it fronts for [12:51] schestowitz-TR what it is for [12:51] matey oh sure [12:52] schestowitz-TR because it pains them [12:52] schestowitz-TR that's why they try to undermine us [12:52] matey i mean i consider osi an enemy to users [12:52] schestowitz-TR and stefono stopped talking to me [12:52] *techrights_guest|80 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [12:52] schestowitz-TR he was losing the argument [12:52] matey what was the argument about [12:54] TR News Sorry Arch, its not working out any more and hello Fedora Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163497 [12:54] TR Bot Sorry Arch, it's not working out any more and hello Fedora | Tux Machines [12:55] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: siren) [12:55] TR News Tumbleweed Gets New Default GCC Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163498 [12:55] TR Bot Tumbleweed Gets New Default GCC | Tux Machines [12:56] schestowitz-TR matey: I posted it in techrights in dec-jan 2021-22 [12:56] schestowitz-TR look under "OSI" category [12:56] schestowitz-TR he's unable to accept github is bad [12:56] schestowitz-TR but he did admit their partnership [12:56] schestowitz-TR in fact he inadvertently gave me some pointers [12:57] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/osi-budget-for-proprietary-software-monopoly/ [12:57] TR Bot In the Latest OSI Tax Filing (From the IRS), Filed 13 Months Ago, Only 4% of the Revenue Comes From Members (People, Not Corporations) and $252,702 Goes to Microsoft Projects (Propping Up Proprietary Software Monopoly) | Techrights [12:57] schestowitz that's the million-dollar (screen)shot [12:58] matey good thing you posted the url [12:58] matey you narrowed it down to about 6 posts, that one wasnt the one i guessed [12:58] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/osi-money.pdf [12:58] schestowitz local copyu [12:58] matey my guess was "Summary: Good luck explaining to the OSIs Executive Director that Microsoft is a liability, not an ally " [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 35.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 48.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 330.10 ● Apr 08 [13:00] matey ummary: Stefano Maffulli told me (hours ago), citing Josh (who had prepared the above filing), that clearlydefined has a budget of roughly $250k. (See page 10 of this latest IRS filing [PDF] near the bottom) [13:00] matey money laundering :) [13:00] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/osi-as-corporate-stooge/ [13:00] TR Bot [Meme] OSI Has Choked Itself to Death (by Surrendering to Its Worst Enemy) | Techrights [13:01] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/02/07/osi-no-show/ [13:01] TR Bot Analysis of OSIs No Show at FOSDEM 2021 | Techrights [13:01] schestowitz http://techrights.org/category/osi/ [13:01] TR Bot OSI | Techrights [13:01] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/04/24/debunking-deb/ [13:01] TR Bot OINs Deb Nicholson: We Dont Solve Any Real Issues, Just Like OSI (Where Nicholson is Now Interim General Manager) | Techrights [13:01] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/osi-repurposed/ [13:01] TR Bot [Meme] OSI is Doing Just Fine | Techrights [13:01] schestowitz i am actually trying to find an animated gift [13:01] schestowitz of stefano and money [13:01] matey osi is a dumpster fire [13:01] schestowitz where I show his salary [13:02] schestowitz and basically rest my case [13:02] schestowitz he gets like half a million bucks to pretend microsoft is OK [13:02] schestowitz we have m,any sellouts liek these around [13:02] schestowitz fossforce is now shilling LF [13:02] schestowitz because LF paid it!!! [13:02] schestowitz but fossforce in the past blasted LF [13:02] schestowitz what has changed? MONEY. [13:02] matey fossfarce had no integrity anyway, theyre liars [13:02] schestowitz LF did NOT improve its behaviour [13:03] matey bilefield published lies, christine signed the letter [13:03] schestowitz Oh, I found it [13:03] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/osi-salary/ [13:03] matey if a tree fell on both it would be no tragedy [13:03] schestowitz video [13:03] TR Bot It is Difficult to Get a Man to Understand Something, When His Salary Depends on His Not Understanding It (Upton Sinclair) | Techrights [13:03] schestowitz short [13:03] schestowitz banderas is argentino? [13:04] matey who? [13:04] schestowitz see the animated gif [13:04] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [13:04] matey the actor? [13:04] schestowitz oh [13:04] schestowitz you saw it already, I think [13:05] matey most of the tr reading i did this year was in a text editor [13:05] matey even when i load it in a browser theres typically no graphics [13:05] schestowitz-TR we try to make it text-friendly [13:05] matey obviously i miss out on gifs and things like that [13:05] schestowitz-TR like, you'd not miss anything crucial in gemini with alt text [13:05] matey video too [13:05] schestowitz-TR of the text quotes/explains what images show [13:06] matey anyway antonio banderas is actually from spain [13:07] matey i would have assumed mexico [13:07] matey i dont know any other banderas [13:07] schestowitz-TR argentina has many italians and germans in it [13:07] schestowitz-TR you can get that from surnames too [13:08] matey andalusia, spain in particular [13:08] schestowitz-TR but argentina was a bit of a failed experiment for european escapees [13:08] schestowitz-TR many times in history they had crises [13:08] schestowitz-TR carlo piana also entered osi [13:08] schestowitz-TR but italo left [13:08] schestowitz-TR one italian out [13:08] schestowitz-TR 2 in [13:08] schestowitz-TR one as E.D> [13:09] schestowitz-TR italo was leading the anti-RMS battle in libreoffice and in OSI [13:09] schestowitz-TR from the boards (OSI and TDF) [13:09] matey thats a shame [13:09] matey ive stopped running libreoffice [13:09] schestowitz-TR italo has been around for ages, but he often joins these silly "social" causes [13:09] matey i never installed it in openbsd and i just dont care about it anymore [13:09] schestowitz-TR weeks ago he wrote a hostile message to russia [13:09] schestowitz-TR in effect not blaming putin [13:09] matey if i actually get an odt i unzip it [13:09] schestowitz-TR but extending guilt to russians [13:09] schestowitz-TR which I think is counter-productive [13:10] matey sure because wars are put to a vote [13:10] schestowitz-TR many russians did a lot for openoffice.org and LO [13:10] schestowitz-TR also for ODF [13:10] schestowitz-TR many signers of the anti-OOXML petition were Russians [13:10] matey i mean the document foundation also signed [13:10] schestowitz-TR italo [13:10] schestowitz-TR probabluy [13:10] matey but you say italo was leading it [13:10] schestowitz-TR meeks was on the fence, at least at first [13:11] schestowitz-TR you can see italo at microsoft [13:11] schestowitz-TR in that photo op from simon flips [13:11] matey i think long term libreoffice is just going to get sucked into collabora/gnome [13:11] schestowitz-TR italo is not principled [13:11] schestowitz-TR then again rms went to microsoft [13:11] matey so politically, free software wise too, i dont think it has a sunny futur [13:12] schestowitz-TR throught he'd lecture them LOL!! [13:12] schestowitz-TR 2 weeks later they LECTURED HIM [13:12] schestowitz-TR called him pedo in the medioa [13:12] matey rms has never understood the threat microsoft poses. [13:12] schestowitz-TR because gates was making headlines after using epstein as a mule at MIT [13:12] matey never. hes always downplayed it [13:12] matey the position of the fsf seems to be: if you slap gpl on something its a good thing [13:12] matey no matter where it comes from [13:13] schestowitz-TR or if it's forced [13:13] schestowitz-TR elike microsoft kernle patches (gplv2) [13:13] matey this will never stop biting them in the arse. its the "all you need is a firewall" fallacy [13:13] matey of course its a bit of a strawman, i dont deny it [13:13] matey but only a little. mostly, its true imo [13:13] matey true enough to be damning [13:14] matey rms wrote an article on microsoft for the fsf [13:14] matey where he downplays the threat they pose-- im sure youve seen it [13:14] matey its been revised over the years, because it has to be [13:15] matey the entire premise is flawed [13:16] matey users have always seen microsoft as a threat, better than the fsf [13:16] matey the fsf wants literally every ally it can get-- if they can just get microsoft to play along, theyll have them too [13:16] matey thats why rms went there [13:18] matey he should have stayed home and read the scorpion and the frog instead [13:18] schestowitz-TR maybe he responds to the PR campaign [13:18] schestowitz-TR which says [13:18] schestowitz-TR "its irrational hatred" [13:18] schestowitz-TR "don'\t write M$" [13:18] schestowitz-TR in fact, if you don't call them by their official name, you are a crank [13:20] matey id rather be a crank and be right [13:20] schestowitz-TR yeah [13:20] matey than be rms and let microsoft destroy free software entirely [13:20] schestowitz-TR sometimes it's opp. [13:20] schestowitz-TR if you are right they call you crank [13:20] schestowitz-TR or if they call you crank, you might be just right [13:20] schestowitz-TR and they cannot confront the message [13:20] schestowitz-TR so it's down to name-calling [13:21] schestowitz-TR but not all cranks are right [13:21] matey no, cranks have a tendency of being wildly wrong [13:21] matey hence cranks [13:21] schestowitz-TR I forgot the discrete maths term for it [13:21] schestowitz-TR there are three directional/bidirectional possibilities [13:21] schestowitz-TR CS 101 [13:22] schestowitz-TR trans-something [13:22] schestowitz-TR or inter [13:22] *alextee has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:22] matey duplex, half duplex and simplex? [13:22] matey transmission modes [13:23] schestowitz-TR ah [13:23] schestowitz-TR transivity I think [13:23] schestowitz-TR from memory [13:24] schestowitz-TR I was 18 when they taught us that [13:24] schestowitz-TR discrete maths [13:25] matey if A is related to B and B is related to C, then A is related to C [13:25] schestowitz-TR our lecturer on this was graham gough [13:25] matey What is transitivity According to Piaget? Transitivity: Being able to understand how objects are related to one another is referred to as transitivity or transitive inference. This means that if one understands that a dog is a mammal and that a boxer is a dog, then a boxer must be a mammal. [13:25] schestowitz-TR I wonder if he is still alive [13:25] schestowitz-TR he'd have to be like 80 by now [13:26] matey there was an actor by the same name (same spelling) on law and order [13:26] schestowitz-TR very common name [13:26] schestowitz-TR I always remember he missed a finger [13:26] schestowitz-TR he would point to the screen [13:26] schestowitz-TR and show us how to do things [13:26] schestowitz-TR CRTs [13:27] matey https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=zjYn4EUAAAAJ School of Computer Science, University of Manchester - Cited by 702 - Logic - Formal Methods - Verification [13:27] TR Bot Graham Gough - Google Scholar [13:27] schestowitz-TR John Latham was the main gnu/linux proponent back then [13:27] matey this guys in ireland [13:27] schestowitz-TR he'd wear hippies shirts [13:27] matey Graham's professionalism is outstanding, I cannot recommend him highly enough.". 35 year old, Co. Meath. Contact Graham Gough Bio Energy Therapy on 086 865 0339. Contact. [13:28] matey /me giggles [13:28] matey surely not the same one [13:31] TR News IBM and Fedora: Stop Being Poor! Buy a New PC! | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/planned-obsolescence-ibm/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/08/planned-obsolescence-ibm/ [13:31] TR Bot IBM and Fedora: Stop Being Poor! Buy a New PC! | Techrights [13:31] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@i8gtth78frzk8.irc) has joined #techrights [13:31] *bnchs (~bnchs@58uqvwirdcauk.irc) has joined #techrights [13:32] TR News ICBM: take up MORE loans (debt) to pay us to reduce your technical debt https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/reduce-technical-debt [13:32] TR Bot 9 reasons you have technical debt and how to reduce it | The Enterprisers Project [13:33] bnchs which one is it [13:33] bnchs financial debt vs technical debgt [13:33] bnchs pick one [13:36] TR News "Extend aquacomputer_d5next driver to expose hardware temperature sensors and fans of the Aquacomputer Octo fan controller, which communicates through a proprietary USB HID protocol." https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/groeck/linux-staging.git/commit/?h=hwmon-next&id=a5af7ccaf51299819dd0e5b1347d6f4d00752701 [13:36] TR Bot kernel/git/groeck/linux-staging.git - hwmon staging tree [13:37] schestowitz-TR bnchs: IBM does loans [13:37] schestowitz-TR it's like a bank [13:37] schestowitz-TR want a mainframe? [13:37] schestowitz-TR we can do installments [13:37] schestowitz-TR like car agencies [13:37] bnchs how powerful are IBM mainframes [13:37] matey they suck up lots of power [13:38] bnchs "IBM initially sold its computers without any software, expecting customers to write their own; programs were manually initiated, one at a time" [13:38] bnchs do you see OEMs doing this now? [13:38] bnchs selling computers with NO operating system [13:38] bnchs and expecting the customers to install it themselves [13:38] TR News Apple is for fools who disregard human rights and think it's "hip" to join the oppressors https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/04/airtags-are-used-for-stalking-far-more-than-previously-reported.html https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3vj3y/apple-airtags-police-reports-stalking-harassment [13:38] TR Bot Are Used for Stalking Far More than Previously Reported - Schneier on Security [13:38] TR Bot Police Records Show Women Are Being Stalked With Apple AirTags Across the Country [13:38] matey to be fair, its extremely difficult to write software until you have a computer [13:38] TR News OpenSSH 9.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163499 [13:38] TR Bot OpenSSH 9.0 | Tux Machines [13:39] TR News Richard Stallman: Steve Jobs Did Some Very Bad Things http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/rms-steve-jobs-2013/ [13:39] TR Bot Richard Stallman: Steve Jobs Did Some Very Bad Things | Techrights [13:39] matey and ibm predates the era where selling software became a thing [13:40] bnchs you don't find OEMs selling laptops with no operating system or FreeDOS on it [13:40] TR News Richard Stallman on Steve Jobs Death - Invidious https://youtube.076.ne.jp/watch?v=PJu9UkokzkY Source: Video | Google | YouTube [13:40] TR Bot Richard Stallman on Steve Jobs Death - Invidious [13:40] bnchs it's just windows nowadays [13:40] schestowitz-TR just bribes [13:40] schestowitz-TR [13:37] they suck up lots of power [13:40] schestowitz-TR hence the name [13:40] schestowitz-TR POWER(R) [13:41] bnchs also wtf is this invidious instance [13:41] schestowitz-TR bnchs: anime-focused, I think [13:41] bnchs i can tell [13:41] schestowitz-TR I tries many instances [13:41] schestowitz-TR i try to send a bit of traffic to all of them [13:41] schestowitz-TR if nobody uses them, they will die [13:41] bnchs well thats good [13:42] schestowitz-TR second-biggest seems to be in finland [13:42] schestowitz-TR that finnish site you and I tested with this yeart [13:42] schestowitz-TR for the bot [13:42] schestowitz-TR heck, you could writ eadditional code [13:42] schestowitz-TR to take a set of instances [13:42] schestowitz-TR and randonmise them [13:42] schestowitz-TR or give two urls [13:42] bnchs yeah thats what i was gonna say [13:42] schestowitz-TR in case one instance is cown [13:42] bnchs randomizing instances [13:42] schestowitz-TR it's in git [13:43] schestowitz-TR wanna "extend" it? [13:43] schestowitz-TR i have a feeling guilag lawyers will bully the dutch yewtu.be instance soon [13:43] schestowitz-TR probably on grounds of trademark [13:43] schestowitz-TR to hide their real motivation [13:43] schestowitz-TR and try to takeover dns [13:43] bnchs https://api.invidious.io/instances.json?pretty=1&sort_by=type,users [13:44] schestowitz-TR like ICBM did to WeMakeFedora [13:44] bnchs the invidious has a instances api [13:44] bnchs where it returns instances in JSON [13:44] schestowitz-TR invidious also makes it simple to download videos [13:44] schestowitz-TR you could never retrive the title from it [13:44] schestowitz-TR but the other bots, like TechrightsBot-tr, make up for it [13:45] schestowitz-TR by expanding the url and getting page [13:45] TR News "Most know that using Git's push --force command is strongly discouraged and is considered destructive." https://opensource.com/article/22/4/git-push ONLY IBM can FORCE and have SLAVES [13:45] TR Bot guide to using the Git push command safely | Opensource.com [13:46] bnchs i'm gonna try scraping all the instance URLs with a shell script [13:46] TR News ICBM FORCED the FSF to remove RMS... or RISK losing money. That's ICBlackMail., Sorry, I mean denymail. [13:47] SomeH4x0r the fact FSF is money-driven is enough itself [13:47] schestowitz-TR yes [13:47] schestowitz-TR it's problematic [13:47] SomeH4x0r they abandon whatever they are fighting for initially, and just create an illusion they continue to do it [13:47] schestowitz-TR [10:00] <schestowitz-TR> not good to society [13:47] schestowitz-TR [10:00] <schestowitz-TR> the FSF has had VASTLY worse patrons [13:47] schestowitz-TR [10:00] <schestowitz-TR> sspeaking of which, a colleague used the company's "social" media [13:47] schestowitz-TR [10:00] <schestowitz-TR> account to link to some libel about RMS [13:47] schestowitz-TR ^ from another channel, hours ago ^ [13:48] SomeH4x0r but they no longer care [13:48] schestowitz-TR they need staff [13:48] schestowitz-TR the staff wants money [13:48] schestowitz-TR money comes from... wait [13:48] schestowitz-TR LF took it too far [13:48] schestowitz-TR to the point of taking multi-million bribes [13:48] bnchs wait techrights.org is HTTP-only [13:48] bnchs am i getting MITM'd again? [13:48] schestowitz-TR from companies like ZuckerBook and MicroSloth [13:49] schestowitz-TR [10:00] <schestowitz-TR> not good to society [13:49] schestowitz-TR [10:00] <schestowitz-TR> the FSF has had VASTLY worse patrons [13:49] schestowitz-TR [10:00] <schestowitz-TR> sspeaking of which, a colleague used the company's "social" media [13:49] schestowitz-TR [10:00] <schestowitz-TR> account to link to some libel about RMS [13:49] schestowitz-TR oops [13:49] schestowitz-TR sorry, wrong paste [13:49] schestowitz-TR techrights.org is HTTP-only [13:49] schestowitz-TR in a sense [13:49] schestowitz-TR we never advertise https [13:49] schestowitz-TR but some people use shitty browser [13:49] schestowitz-TR that vainly assume ALL sites are HTTPS [13:49] schestowitz-TR even when they are NOT [13:50] schestowitz-TR so we added HTTPS with self-signed cert [13:50] schestowitz-TR but we never advertise those addresses [13:50] bnchs but here it's HTTP only [13:50] bnchs there's no self-signed cert [13:50] schestowitz-TR because GulagWeb (the monopoly, Mozille+Gulag) hates anything that's not outsourced to AMERICA(TM) [13:51] schestowitz-TR Our cert is good until May 23 2022 [13:52] schestowitz-TR in fact, i've just put it in my fake 'diary' (todo.txt) [13:52] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [13:52] SomeH4x0r self-signed is the proper way to do it [13:52] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [13:52] schestowitz-TR TOF [13:53] *CrystalMath (~coderain@r9adphpcujxkq.irc) has joined #techrights [13:53] schestowitz-TR I can, on May 22, advertise the next fingehrprint [13:53] schestowitz-TR for the upcoming cert [13:53] schestowitz-TR but... [13:53] schestowitz-TR we don't recommend https [13:53] schestowitz-TR because browsers would then shout and panic [13:53] schestowitz-TR and confuse people [13:54] schestowitz-TR "NOT TRUSTED!! TAKE ME OUT OF HERE! NOT CONTROLLED BY BIDEN AND TRUMP!!" [13:56] bnchs maybe the SHA-256 fingerprint [13:56] bnchs like in firefox [13:56] bnchs "SHA-256: 75:EB:DE:EC:A3:9D:FC:A2:90:67:2F:7A:EF:F7:58:16:D9:2E:09:90:4D:7F:35:69:7D:8A:17:98:7C:90:B6:5B" [13:56] bnchs much shorter [13:56] bnchs than whatever that modulus thing you pasted [13:57] schestowitz-TR I support I could rotate it now [13:57] schestowitz-TR a month early [13:57] schestowitz-TR any negative consequences? [13:58] schestowitz-TR it's not like I PAY or ask Zemlin for PERMISSION to make a new bunch of bytes [13:58] bnchs openssl command too: openssl x509 -in cert.pem -noout -sha256 -fingerprint [13:58] bnchs well there's no negative consequences, as nothing depends on techrights.org [13:58] schestowitz-TR irc has it own cert [13:59] bnchs let's encrypt? [13:59] schestowitz-TR some irc clients do not accept non-CA stuff [13:59] schestowitz-TR stupid, I know... ● Apr 08 [14:00] schestowitz LE they say is easy [14:00] schestowitz it is now [14:00] schestowitz this is easier: [14:00] schestowitz openssl req -new -days 365 -x509 -nodes -newkey rsa:2048 -out /etc/pki/tls/certs/localhost.crt -keyout /etc/pki/tls/private/localhost.key [14:00] bnchs so IRC clients accept self-signed certs for SASL crap [14:00] bnchs but not self-signed certs for servers [14:03] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@7au7cchx5x986.irc) has joined #techrights [14:04] bnchs invidious actually marks certain instances with (uses cloudflare) [14:04] bnchs should i filter out those? [14:04] schestowitz-TR new cert created, I entered more details this time [14:04] schestowitz-TR so it looks more credibile [14:04] schestowitz-TR not that Gulag and CA cartel will be pleased by that [14:04] schestowitz-TR to them, "trust" is US, as in us and USA [14:06] bnchs "Instances using any DDoS Protection / MITM MUST be marked as such (eg: Cloudflare, DDoS-Guard...)." [14:06] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:07] schestowitz Fingerprints [14:07] schestowitz 75:EB:DE:EC:A3:9D:FC:A2:90:67:2F:7A:EF:F7:58:16:D9:2E:09:90:4D:7F:35:69:7D:8A:17:98:7C:90:B6:5B [14:07] schestowitz or sha-1 [14:07] schestowitz 52:5D:80:EB:26:97:BB:83:2B:CC:61:E9:67:D4:A1:F6:6C:6D:47:CB [14:08] bnchs verified [14:08] schestowitz-TR wait, I might need to restart apache or reload [14:08] schestowitz-TR for change to take effect [14:09] schestowitz Firefox: [14:09] schestowitz techrights.org uses an invalid security certificate. [14:09] schestowitz [14:09] schestowitz The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed. [14:09] schestowitz [14:09] schestowitz Error code: MOZILLA_PKIX_ERROR_SELF_SIGNED_CERT [14:09] schestowitz It's trust of Donald Trump and Joe Biden sign it [14:09] schestowitz if the site owners signs it, naughty naughty [14:09] schestowitz I get it [14:10] bnchs "Accept The Risk and Continue" [14:11] psydruid Open wallet in order to get OpenPOWER [14:12] schestowitz New fingerprint [14:12] schestowitz SHA-256 [14:12] schestowitz 2D:E3:9F:A3:85:46:B6:B6:C7:3E:CE:0F:CA:C9:C9:88:1D:80:45:FA:D2:4B:98:77: [14:12] schestowitz psydruid: IBM is open. for business. [14:12] schestowitz "come right in!" [14:13] bnchs schestowitz, your server keeps downgrading me to HTTP [14:13] bnchs when i visit it on HTTPS [14:15] schestowitz-TR CA 'security' model" TRUSTED BY USA" or "VERIFIED BY USA" [14:15] schestowitz-TR What if the USA is not trustworthy [14:15] schestowitz-TR like there is a war [14:16] schestowitz-TR ICBM system: error, could not connect to satellite for coordinates of nuke target. Satellite certificate revoked by Lets Encrypt [14:16] bnchs Connecting to satellite over HTTP [14:17] schestowitz-TR Lets Encrypt is funded by Rockefeller [14:17] schestowitz-TR bnchs: then the signal will be intercepted by some f-35 [14:17] schestowitz-TR and send it "Moscow" :-) [14:17] schestowitz-TR get popcorn [14:18] schestowitz-TR XRevan8 says Putler isn't even there [14:19] schestowitz-TR letsencrypt web site is microsoft shithub [14:19] schestowitz-TR nothing says trust like microsoft [14:19] schestowitz-TR and nsa as CSO of github [14:19] XRevan86 He was there today, he was saying farewell to an old friend. [14:20] schestowitz-TR microsoft: we HATE antitrust. TRUST us! [14:20] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: yes, I read [14:20] schestowitz-TR whose name is similar to ukraine's comedian [14:20] schestowitz-TR comedian in chef [14:20] schestowitz-TR *chuef [14:20] schestowitz-TR *chief [14:20] schestowitz-TR but too old, 75 [14:21] XRevan86 Not similiar from my perspective. [14:21] psydruid comedian master chef [14:21] XRevan86 But he was also a comedian, but he specialised in dark comedy. [14:21] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: putin's chef [14:22] schestowitz https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/07/the-clown-prince-of-russian-politics-is-dead [14:22] Alternative link CloudFlare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/07/the-clown-prince-of-russian-politics-is-dead https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/07/the-clown-prince-of-russian-politics-is-dead [14:22] TR Bot NO TITLE [14:22] schestowitz I've put that in http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/easyos-3-4-5/ [14:22] TR Bot Links 08/04/2022: EasyOS 3.4.5 | Techrights [14:22] schestowitz around 9 am today [14:22] schestowitz they said clown prince [14:22] XRevan86 accurate [14:22] schestowitz his ashes will be scattered into the clown [14:23] schestowitz and then it will be restarted [14:23] schestowitz "who is THIS DAEMON??" [14:23] XRevan86 "of the misleadingly named Liberal Democratic Party of Russia" <- Hungarian Young Democrats approve. [14:24] schestowitz-TR DKPR [14:24] schestowitz-TR DPKR [14:24] schestowitz-TR DPRK [14:25] schestowitz-TR I always forget the order [14:25] schestowitz-TR need to read out the words to remember [14:25] schestowitz-TR people's [14:25] schestowitz-TR democratic [14:25] schestowitz-TR but without election [14:25] schestowitz-TR by people [14:25] schestowitz-TR Republic is OK [14:25] schestowitz-TR because it's vacuous [14:25] schestowitz-TR like Republics [14:26] schestowitz-TR Reptiles [14:26] schestowitz-TR Repugnicantsd [14:26] XRevan86 schestowitz: "People's" can also be read like "National" [14:28] TR News "The Ukrainian president thanked Finland for supporting Ukraine during the conflict, and urged Finns to do more to support his country even after the conflict ends." https://yle.fi/news/3-12396370 wait, Finland is NOT part of Russia???https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/19/finns-aghast-that-trump-could-think-their-country-is-part-of-russia [14:28] TR Bot Ukrainian President Zelensky warns Russia could "do the same" to Finland | News | Yle Uutiset [14:28] TR Bot Finns aghast that Trump could think their country is part of Russia | Donald Trump | The Guardian [14:29] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: not far from you [14:29] schestowitz-TR maybe Putin can evacuate you to Helsinki [14:29] schestowitz-TR lots of high--paying jobs there [14:29] bnchs schestowitz-TR, https://paste.debian.net/1237243/ [14:29] TR Bot debian Pastezone [14:29] XRevan86 schestowitz: That would be very convinient. [14:30] psydruid ICBM is colluding with and helping Microsoft, Intel and AMD with this latest move to deprecate BIOS [14:30] schestowitz-TR bnchs: thanks, let me try.. [14:31] psydruid the message is: don't spend any money on anything from ICBM and let them go bankrupt [14:31] psydruid including using and contributing to Fedora, RHEL and CentOS [14:34] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [14:39] *schestowitz has kicked TechrightsBot-tr from #techrights (User terminated!) [14:39] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [14:39] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [14:39] TR Bot dare you kick me! [14:40] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM [14:40] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM [14:40] TR Bot yewtu.be | Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give Up My Destiny (Lovelyz Mashup) - Invidious [14:40] bnchs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM [14:40] schestowitz wait, maybe it recovered with the old code file [14:40] *schestowitz has kicked TechrightsBot-tr from #techrights (User terminated!) [14:40] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [14:40] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [14:40] TR Bot dare you kick me! [14:40] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [14:42] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (connection closed) [14:44] schestowitz bnchs: arrays not allowed in class constants [14:44] schestowitz fatal error [14:44] bnchs really? [14:44] schestowitz if you can tell me the diff [14:44] bnchs ok i'll fix that [14:45] schestowitz I've added you to credits [14:46] schestowitz do you want your email there? [14:47] TR News How much RAM is installed on your Ubuntu system VITUX https://vitux.com/how-much-ram-is-installed-on-ubuntu/ Source: vitux [14:47] Alternative link CloudFlare: vitux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://vitux.com/how-much-ram-is-installed-on-ubuntu/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://vitux.com/how-much-ram-is-installed-on-ubuntu/ [14:48] TR News Create Your Own Custom Light and Dark Dynamic Wallpaper for GNOME Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163500 [14:49] bnchs well i don't have an email [14:50] schestowitz-TR ok, just nickname added [14:51] bnchs i wish i could find a good email service [14:55] schestowitz-TR make your own [14:55] schestowitz-TR either domain ro hosting [14:55] schestowitz-TR or both [14:55] schestowitz-TR at the very least domain [14:55] schestowitz-TR at least then you can change hosts [14:55] schestowitz-TR with DNS [14:57] TR News "I can't believe I have to keep saying this, but Proton gaming IS Linux gaming. Even if they're a small minority, there are too many people saying that Proton/Wine is somehow "corrupting" Linux or ruining Linux gaming." It does more good than harm, all in all. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BPlo31brOy8 [14:58] TR News "Sick of this" says the person sponsored by Valve, sick by people who criticise Valve [14:59] bnchs schestowitz-TR, https://paste.debian.net/hidden/64054701/ ● Apr 08 [15:06] TR News </li> [15:06] TR News We recently spotted some promotional plugs in Geminispace; while it may seem indicative of growth, it does lead to potential perils and genuine concerns http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/the-temptation-to-promote-paid-narratives-and-product-marketing-fake-endorsements-in-geminispace-will-grow-and-its-a-risk-to-geminis-reputation-or-selling-point/ [15:06] TR News The planned obsolescence complex of IBM is showing; things that are widely supported and also very much needed are now candidates for abandonment http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/planned-obsolescence-ibm/ [15:08] schestowitz-TR bnchs: the changes are public static? [15:08] bnchs well yeah [15:08] bnchs and phirce::INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES to $INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES [15:09] MinceR inviting MICROS~1 to sue for API copyrights does no harm anymore? [15:12] schestowitz-TR I changed those two things [15:12] schestowitz-TR now I get: [15:12] schestowitz-TR syntax_error, unexpected 'INVIDIOUS_INSTANCE' (T_STRING), expecting variable (T_VARIABLE) [15:13] bnchs INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES [15:13] bnchs not INVIDIOUS_INSTANCE [15:13] bnchs wait [15:13] bnchs schestowitz-TR, what line [15:14] schestowitz-TR oh wait [15:14] bnchs yeah it's $INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES [15:15] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [15:18] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:24] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [15:24] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [15:24] schestowitz-TR aha [15:24] schestowitz-TR some bugfixes [15:24] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM [15:24] TR Bot https:///watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM [15:24] TR Bot not resolve host: https; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https:///watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM ) [15:25] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM [15:25] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRF4 [15:25] TR Bot https:///watch?v=4nQoRH3vRF4 [15:25] TR Bot not resolve host: https; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https:///watch?v=4nQoRH3vRF4 ) [15:25] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRF43 [15:25] TR Bot https:///watch?v=4nQoRH3vRF4 [15:27] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@c53wmwbdesx7c.irc) has joined #techrights [15:27] bnchs schestowitz, uhhh [15:27] bnchs hmmm [15:28] schestowitz-TR + $inv_key = $INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES[array_rand($INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES)]; [15:28] schestowitz-TR undefined variable [15:28] bnchs schestowitz-TR, INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES is undefined? [15:28] bnchs but it's defined in public static top of the file [15:28] schestowitz-TR array_rand() expected parameter 1 to be array, NIULL given [15:29] bnchs is there public static $INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES? [15:31] bnchs schestowitz-TR, do you have PHP 5.6? [15:34] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [15:34] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@xg2evud9qdris.irc) has joined #techrights [15:34] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [15:35] schestowitz-TR 5.4.16 [15:36] bnchs no wait i did something wrong [15:36] schestowitz-TR ok [15:36] schestowitz-TR better highlight the line changed [15:36] schestowitz-TR not the whole lot [15:36] schestowitz-TR as I check the changes line by line [15:37] TR News Delhi HC directs MHA to clarify its position on maintenance of e-surveillance data https://internetfreedom.in/delhi-hc-directs-mha-to-clarify-its-position-on-maintenance-of-e-surveillance-data/ Source: internetfreedom [15:37] *ziraffep has quit (connection closed) [15:37] Alternative link CloudFlare: internetfreedom.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/delhi-hc-directs-mha-to-clarify-its-position-on-maintenance-of-e-surveillance-data/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://internetfreedom.in/delhi-hc-directs-mha-to-clarify-its-position-on-maintenance-of-e-surveillance-data/ [15:37] TR Bot Delhi HC directs MHA to clarify its position on maintenance of e-surveillance data [15:38] TR News Short history of the "What is Free Software (Open Source)?" video https://k7r.eu/short-history-of-the-what-is-free-software-open-source-video/ [15:38] TR Bot Matthias Kirschner's Web log Short history of the "What is Free Software (Open Source)?" video [15:38] bnchs it's more than one [15:39] schestowitz-TR OK, so keep track of which ones change [15:39] bnchs so one of the things [15:39] bnchs move the public static $INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES to the class itself [15:39] bnchs and rename the $INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES to phirce::$INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES [15:39] schestowitz-TR all occurrences? [15:40] schestowitz-TR and WITH $|? [15:40] bnchs well in the $inv_key line [15:40] bnchs yeah [15:41] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/fuel-2 [15:41] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Fuel [15:41] schestowitz-TR only that line? [15:41] bnchs yes [15:41] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@9usr6fbbjhvag.irc) has joined #techrights [15:41] bnchs phirce::$INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES [15:41] schestowitz-TR $inv_key = .... ? [15:42] bnchs yeah [15:42] bnchs $inv_key = phirce::$INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES[array_rand(phirce::$INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES)]; [15:42] schestowitz-TR it has two occurrences there [15:42] bnchs well yeah [15:44] schestowitz-TR and the public static $INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES goes to which line? [15:44] bnchs https://paste.debian.net/hidden/9e66206c/ [15:44] TR Bot Debian Pastezone [15:44] bnchs yo ucan check this out [15:48] *schestowitz has kicked TechrightsBot-tr from #techrights (User terminated!) 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[15:52] schestowitz-TR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM [15:52] schestowitz-TR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFMg [15:52] TR Bot https:///watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM [15:52] schestowitz-TR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM6 [15:52] TR Bot https:///watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM [15:52] schestowitz-TR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM8 [15:52] TR Bot https:///watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM [15:53] schestowitz-TR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH35 [15:53] TR Bot NO TITLE [15:53] schestowitz-TR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH354 [15:53] TR Bot NO TITLE [15:53] bnchs what are the errors [15:53] schestowitz-TR tail -f shows [15:54] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQHaGhC7C2E [15:54] TR Bot https:///watch?v=UQHaGhC7C2E [15:54] TR Bot not resolve host: https; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https:///watch?v=UQHaGhC7C2E ) [15:54] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@ewpvb9mp74asi.irc) has joined #techrights [15:54] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (connection closed) [15:57] bnchs wait [15:57] schestowitz-TR inv_key cannot find that variable [15:57] schestowitz-TR take your time [15:58] schestowitz-TR "undefined variable: INVIDIOUS_INSTANCES" [15:59] TR News It would be more risky now with Russia at one edge of the sea https://bergie.iki.fi/blog/baltic-shakedown-cruise/ ● Apr 08 [16:00] TR News "In 2021, LibreOffice celebrated its eleventh birthday. Two new major versions of the suite introduced a variety of new features, while minor releases helped to improve stability as well" https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/04/08/annual-report-2021-libreoffice-releases-and-updates/ [16:00] bnchs schestowitz-TR, https://paste.debian.net/hidden/70382a96/ [16:04] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [16:04] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [16:04] schestowitz-TR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQHaGhC7C2E [16:04] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (connection closed) [16:04] *ziraffep has quit (Quit) [16:04] XRevan86 https://smbc-comics.com/comic/centuries This is not true :). [16:04] schestowitz-TR it feels like an experiment [16:05] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [16:05] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [16:05] schestowitz-TR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQHaGhC7C2E [16:05] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (connection closed) [16:05] bnchs did it crash [16:06] bnchs uhh why did it crash [16:07] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [16:07] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [16:07] schestowitz-TR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQHaGhC7C2E [16:07] TR Bot https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=UQHaGhC7C2E [16:07] TR Bot invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | Tom Lehrer - Lobachevsky - Invidious [16:07] schestowitz-TR oh [16:07] schestowitz-TR at last [16:07] bnchs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQHaGhC7C2E [16:07] schestowitz-TR trying in another channel [16:07] schestowitz-TR try a second url [16:07] schestowitz-TR it has dupe detection [16:08] bnchs https://youtube.com/watch?v=IZZ59HOdAbI [16:08] TR Bot https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=IZZ59HOdAbI [16:08] TR Bot invidious.mutahar.rocks | YouTube Has Blacklisted My Channel - Invidious [16:08] MinceR 08 170455 < XRevan86> https://smbc-comics.com/comic/centuries This is not true :). [16:08] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Centuries [16:08] MinceR legal issues? [16:09] schestowitz-TR it works in #boycottnovell-social too [16:09] schestowitz-TR I will deploy to the 5 channels [16:09] bnchs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSCX78-8-q0 [16:09] TR Bot https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=oSCX78-8-q0 [16:09] schestowitz-TR and push to git [16:09] TR Bot invidious.namazso.eu | A Boy And His Atom: The World's Smallest Movie - Invidious [16:09] bnchs well the randomization works [16:09] XRevan86 MinceR: No, Star Trek is set in an alternative reality. [16:10] MinceR aren't most shows set in an alternative reality? [16:10] XRevan86 MinceR: I mean the chronology is alternative too. [16:10] schestowitz-TR bnchs: one option is, in the future many, take 2-3 at random [16:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 36.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 55.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.36 [16:10] schestowitz-TR but it would be noisy in IRC [16:10] bnchs yeah too noisy [16:10] XRevan86 MinceR: I'm trying to be vague because I don't remember which year is considered a deriving point. [16:11] bnchs i don't know how would you do 2-3 [16:12] MinceR :> [16:13] XRevan86 MinceR: "The Eugenics Wars (or the Great Wars) were a series of conflicts fought on Earth between 1992 and 1996." [16:13] MinceR http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/green-grass-dreading-your-feet.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/10/you-should-hear-grass-complain-when-it-rains/ ) [16:13] Alternative link CloudFlare: engrish.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/green-grass-dreading-your-feet.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/green-grass-dreading-your-feet.jpg [16:13] TR Bot You should hear grass complain when it rains [16:13] MinceR ic [16:14] XRevan86 So our present day is not a prequel to Star Trek :) [16:17] schestowitz-TR ok, it's in git now [16:17] schestowitz-TR I tidied up a little [16:18] schestowitz-TR bnchs: thanks [16:18] schestowitz-TR added you to file and commit log [16:19] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGUtTiRDxSw [16:19] TR Bot https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=CGUtTiRDxSw [16:19] TR Bot inv.bp.mutahar.rocks | GOAL | Laporte Own Goal | Southampton v Manchester City | Quarter-Final | Emirates FA Cup 2021-22 - Invidious [16:19] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXhCRaE-ll4 [16:19] TR Bot https://y.com.sb/watch?v=tXhCRaE-ll4 [16:19] TR Bot y.com.sb | GOAL | Kevin De Bruyne | Southampton v Manchester City | Quarter-Final | Emirates FA Cup 2021-22 - Invidious [16:20] schestowitz OK, that works as expecte [16:20] schestowitz some domains will expire [16:20] schestowitz but at least they'll gey more traffic [16:20] schestowitz no clownflare [16:21] bnchs yeah i filtered out the clownflare domains [16:21] TR News CPE Weekly Update Week of April 4th 8th - Fedora 'Community' Blog https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-4th-8th/ Source: 'community' fedoraproject [16:21] TR Bot CPE Weekly Update Week of April 4th 8th Fedora Community Blog [16:21] schestowitz-TR bnchs: excellent, good thinking [16:21] schestowitz-TR so they get no traffic [16:21] schestowitz-TR unless it's direct [16:21] schestowitz-TR clownflare loses money [16:21] schestowitz-TR let's keep it that way [16:21] bnchs it was only like 2 domains [16:22] bnchs that had clownflare [16:22] schestowitz-TR CF = bait and switch [16:22] schestowitz-TR when the switch loads of "users" will flee [16:22] schestowitz-TR they won' become "customers" [16:22] schestowitz-TR *won't [16:22] schestowitz-TR then the Web might be back to the real hosters [16:22] schestowitz-TR not a fake 'CDN' [16:23] bnchs yewtu.be had downloads disabled [16:24] TR News Firefox 100 Enters Beta Testing with GTK Overlay Scrollbars Enabled by Default Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163501 [16:24] TR Bot Firefox 100 Enters Beta Testing with GTK Overlay Scrollbars Enabled by Default | Tux Machines [16:24] schestowitz-TR bnchs: haha [16:24] schestowitz-TR maybe gulag lawyers fired already [16:24] schestowitz-TR and they tried to appease them [16:24] schestowitz-TR maybe proactively [16:24] schestowitz-TR seeing some recent court cases [16:24] schestowitz-TR not in .NL [16:26] schestowitz-TR bnchs: I have this idea [16:26] schestowitz-TR in Daily Links I will use yewtu.be [16:26] schestowitz-TR but in IRC [16:26] schestowitz-TR the original youtube [16:26] schestowitz-TR as it'll last longer as all the rest [16:26] schestowitz-TR then your code will give the alt link [16:26] schestowitz-TR the idea is to drown out youtube [16:27] schestowitz-TR no single site to attack [16:27] schestowitz-TR hydra modus [16:27] schestowitz-TR if we can have 20 very heavily used instance [16:27] schestowitz-TR better than what mastodon is doing [16:27] schestowitz-TR few massive instances [16:27] schestowitz-TR and then some tiny ones [16:27] bnchs instance actually has a button [16:27] bnchs for switching instances [16:27] schestowitz-TR the lawyers like it that way, they send one letter [16:27] bnchs invidious actually has a button* [16:28] bnchs you click and you choose an instance [16:28] schestowitz-TR bnchs: only if the domain is up [16:28] schestowitz-TR otherwide it goes nowhere [16:28] schestowitz-TR omar already did that [16:28] schestowitz-TR he made his instance just link to other ones [16:28] bnchs yes [16:28] schestowitz-TR I assume invidio.us got too much threatening stuff [16:28] schestowitz-TR so he's like,, [16:29] schestowitz-TR ok, folks, make lots of hydre heads here [16:29] schestowitz-TR I will just link [16:29] schestowitz-TR wikileaks did the same [16:29] schestowitz-TR after aws kicked them out [16:29] bnchs it's better that people should host their own invidious instance [16:29] bnchs gives gulag tons of targets [16:29] schestowitz-TR for the crime of exposing us war crimes and corruption [16:29] schestowitz-TR dmca to microsdoft shithub [16:29] schestowitz-TR "hi [16:29] schestowitz-TR "your site has all these accounts: [16:30] schestowitz-TR [list of 100 accounts or repos [16:30] schestowitz-TR "please remove them all" [16:30] schestowitz-TR Microsoft: SIR YES SIR [16:30] schestowitz-TR turns out forking Microsoft inside Microsoft is futile ;-) [16:30] schestowitz-TR "don't worry ma, hold ma drink, ima fork this" [16:31] schestowitz-TR ma watches as she forks a github repo into another github repoo [16:31] schestowitz-TR oops [16:31] schestowitz-TR repoo [16:31] bnchs did they do that with youtube-dl [16:31] schestowitz-TR fitting type [16:31] schestowitz-TR shithub repoo [16:31] bnchs when RIAA dmca'd microsoft shithub [16:31] schestowitz-TR shitpoo [16:31] bnchs youtube-dl's source code got mirrored everywhere [16:31] schestowitz-TR bnchs: yes! [16:31] schestowitz-TR we published the letter again [16:31] schestowitz-TR wait [16:32] schestowitz-TR they did not strike at one account [16:32] schestowitz-TR they listed tons of forks [16:34] schestowitz I cannot find it easily atm [16:34] schestowitz just tried [16:34] schestowitz it's an .md file [16:34] schestowitz markdown [16:34] TR News "Nearly all of modern computer engineers are working above so many layers that theres no human way to understand what they are doing." gemini://tobykurien.com/microblog.gmi [16:34] bnchs yeah they striked at all the forks [16:35] bnchs that were in shithub [16:35] TR News TIC-80 Dino Run gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2022-04-08-tic-80-dino-run.gmi [16:36] TR News "These social protections have been slowly eroding over decades" gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-04-08-i-answer-questions-part-iv.gmi [16:38] TR News '3 Man Chess: In The Round' in APL (NARS2000). Part 2. gemini://g.mikf.pl/gemlog/2022-04-08-3mc.gmi [16:40] schestowitz-TR bnchs: doesn't matter if you call the principal branch main or master [16:40] schestowitz-TR microsoft is always the master [16:41] schestowitz-TR and it does what's good for its business interests [16:41] schestowitz-TR you are just their slave in shithub [16:41] schestowitz-TR with your rePOO [16:42] bnchs shit in the repoo [16:43] schestowitz-TR got "likes" [16:43] schestowitz-TR and "stars" [16:43] schestowitz-TR smart toilet [16:43] schestowitz-TR be a star [16:43] schestowitz-TR bnchs: my repoo got 100 STARS [16:43] schestowitz-TR in github [16:44] schestowitz-TR but my code was still shit [16:44] schestowitz-TR turns out the stars don't make the code better! [16:44] bnchs thanks to shithub [16:44] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [16:44] bnchs for bringing concepts of social control media [16:44] bnchs to version control [16:44] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163502 [16:44] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [16:44] schestowitz-TR bnchs: I give your code two stars, a fork, and s knife [16:45] bnchs wtf is forks and stars [16:45] bnchs that should be in yelp [16:45] TR News How much RAM is installed on your Ubuntu system Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163503 [16:45] bnchs not shithub [16:45] TR Bot How much RAM is installed on your Ubuntu system | Tux Machines [16:45] schestowitz-TR your code is so good it was forked [16:45] schestowitz-TR iow, people did NOT agree with itss direction [16:45] schestowitz-TR here, have 4 spoons [16:45] schestowitz-TR enjoy the meal! [16:46] bnchs heres a spork [16:46] schestowitz-TR employers thaqt hire based on how many "stars" Microsoft gave you is like a boyfriend who chooses you for how many guys you slept [16:46] schestowitz-TR *with [16:47] bnchs less is better? [16:47] schestowitz-TR no! [16:47] TR News Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163504 [16:47] TR Bot Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:47] schestowitz-TR bnchs: the promiscuity industry calls that "experience" [16:47] bnchs you gotta have a limit [16:47] schestowitz-TR "he has experience" = he has sex many times or with many partners [16:48] bnchs before you start hiring straight out sluts [16:48] schestowitz-TR (also: likely to have STD and infidelity issues) [16:52] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@fici29dumxqp6.irc) has joined #techrights [16:58] TR News "Continuing my Custom Built Desktop Development." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZamHzC1JJk [16:58] TR Bot https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=RZamHzC1JJk [16:58] TR Bot invidious.privacy.gd | Live - Building my Custom Desktop - Invidious [16:58] schestowitz-TR woohoo [16:58] schestowitz-TR so that's how I'll link from now on [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.68 k/sec., IPFS upstream 108.20 average k/sec., average swarm size 303.20 [16:59] schestowitz-TR master copy [16:59] schestowitz-TR followed by random instance of Invidious ● Apr 08 [17:00] TR News It looks like Linux Foundation hired to interject some real stories into Linux.com. We shall see if that lasts... [17:00] TR News "In this video, I am going to show how to install Nitrux GNU/Linux 20220402" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfYqhRclRX0 [17:00] TR Bot https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=QfYqhRclRX0 [17:00] TR Bot invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | How to install Nitrux 20220402 - Invidious [17:04] psydruid someone just told me that me having issues with the bloat and slowness of KDE is an issue with me and not with KDE [17:04] TR News Videos: Proton, Nitrux, and Custom-Made Distro Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163505 [17:04] TR Bot Videos: Proton, Nitrux, and Custom-Made Distro | Tux Machines [17:04] *psydruid joins MinceR in his assertion that mankind is a lost cause [17:05] psydruid Deadrat Syndrome is strong in the free^wopen source community [17:06] TR News LibreOffice QA Blog - Updates from the Quality Assurance community: QA/DEV REPORT: MARCH 2022 https://qa.blog.documentfoundation.org/2022/04/08/qa-dev-report-march-2022/ [17:06] TR Bot QA/Dev Report: March 2022 - LibreOffice QA Blog [17:07] schestowitz-TR psydruid: stop being poor. buy a new computer already. Your singiness makes "linux" look bad! [17:07] schestowitz-TR stinginess [17:08] matey someone just told me that me having issues with the bloat and slowness of KDE is an issue with me and not with KDE <- [17:08] matey /me thinks kde has become a pile of shit, along with most of its fans [17:09] matey <psydruid> ACTION joins MinceR in his assertion that mankind is a lost cause <- no but kde is a fucking lost cause [17:09] schestowitz-TR psydruid: what specs? [17:09] schestowitz-TR maybe it's not a machine for kde [17:09] matey no such thing [17:10] matey a machine for kde <- /me builds a cluster that NEEDS useless crap added to it [17:10] schestowitz-TR even at uni I noticed it [17:10] schestowitz-TR as speeds doubled every few years [17:10] schestowitz-TR and RAM also [17:10] bnchs schestowitz-TR, it's called supercomputer syndrome [17:10] schestowitz-TR instead of encouraging better s/w developers [17:10] bnchs they blame bloat on the computer being OLD [17:10] schestowitz-TR and development [17:10] schestowitz-TR it encouraged developers to avoid optimisation [17:11] schestowitz-TR and wrongly assume everyone had the same specs as them [17:11] bnchs schestowitz-TR, not throw away the devs you have [17:11] schestowitz-TR so that became a curse [17:11] bnchs try to teach them how to optimize [17:11] schestowitz-TR with js/electron it's taken to the extreme [17:11] bnchs and not to rely on libraries for everything [17:11] psydruid schestowitz-TR, my HP Zbook Studio G3 with an Intel Core i7-6700HQ with 32 GB of RAM and Nvidia M1000 graphics with 4 GB of video RAM and 1.5 TB of NVMe storage [17:12] psydruid I'm sure it's not my specs [17:12] schestowitz-TR psydruid: maybe it's not configured right [17:12] schestowitz-TR KDE does not even take 600mb f ram [17:12] schestowitz-TR be sure tyo diabled baloo or whatever [17:12] psydruid it's not the memory consumption, it's the piece of shit software [17:13] schestowitz-TR akonadi [17:13] schestowitz-TR gnome-indexer [17:13] psydruid I won't have any of it anymore [17:13] MinceR http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/garden-with-curled-poo.jpg ( https://www.engrish.com/2020/10/straight-wont-do/ ) [17:13] Alternative link CloudFlare: engrish.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/garden-with-curled-poo.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/garden-with-curled-poo.jpg [17:13] TR Bot Straight wont do [17:13] bnchs electron and JS ruined optimization [17:13] psydruid KDE developers can throw themselves into a ditch [17:13] bnchs instead of looking for efficient software [17:14] bnchs they look for ways to do things efficiently for the programmers [17:14] bnchs at the cost of the performance [17:14] TR News How to Install FreeTube on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Jammy - Linux Shout https://www.how2shout.com/linux/how-to-install-freetube-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/ Source: how2shout [17:14] Alternative link CloudFlare: how2shout.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.how2shout.com/linux/how-to-install-freetube-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.how2shout.com/linux/how-to-install-freetube-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts/ [17:14] TR Bot How to Install FreeTube on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Jammy - Linux Shout [17:14] bnchs freetube is a electron app [17:15] MinceR explains why keyboard shortcuts don't work in it most of the time [17:15] psydruid I tried it once, it's worse than crap [17:15] MinceR at least it supports sponsorblock [17:15] psydruid it's free software as malware [17:15] MinceR a while ago even subtitles worked [17:15] MinceR they no longer do [17:15] bnchs lol mpv supports sponsorblock (as a plugin) [17:15] bnchs and it's written in C [17:15] bnchs the plugin, in lua and python [17:16] schestowitz https://www.phoronix.com/image-viewer.php?id=xeon8380-linux-1year&image=icelake_2022_1_lrg [17:16] Alternative link CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/image-viewer.php?id=xeon8380-linux-1year&image=icelake_2022_1_lrg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/image-viewer.php?id=xeon8380-linux-1year&image=icelake_2022_1_lrg [17:16] TR Bot Intel Xeon Platinum 8380 "Ice Lake" Linux Performance One Year After Launch Image (Icelake 2022 1) [17:17] bnchs did you know: electron was originally made by shithub in 2013 [17:18] bnchs before it was acquired by micro$oft [17:18] matey <psydruid> I won't have any of it anymore <- nor will i [17:18] bnchs but now electron is being developed by OpenJS foundation [17:18] bnchs "Founding members included Google, Microsoft, IBM, PayPal, GoDaddy, and Joyent." [17:18] TR News Raspberry Pi OS gets some big updates, possible to run experimental Wayland http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163489#comment-33302 [17:18] TR Bot Raspberry Pi OS removes default "Pi" username, adds experimental support for Wayland | Tux Machines [17:19] schestowitz-TR bnchs: yes, I know [17:19] schestowitz-TR they made lots of other shit [17:19] bnchs yes [17:19] schestowitz-TR i never met anyone who uses atom [17:19] schestowitz-TR except the syndication format [17:19] bnchs maybe because atom requires you to have a supercomputer [17:19] bnchs i tried using it [17:19] TR News DietPi Released a New Version 8.3 https://dietpi.com/docs/releases/v8_3/ [17:19] Alternative link CloudFlare: dietpi.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://dietpi.com/docs/releases/v8_3/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://dietpi.com/docs/releases/v8_3/ [17:19] TR Bot April 2022 - DietPi.com Docs [17:19] bnchs it literally slowed down my computer [17:20] schestowitz-TR yes, it's awful [17:20] schestowitz-TR the browser kills off your PC [17:20] schestowitz-TR memory leaks [17:20] schestowitz-TR swap/paging [17:20] schestowitz-TR even cpu usage is inaane [17:20] bnchs and it adds to your security vector [17:20] schestowitz-TR *inane and insane [17:20] bnchs an entire browser [17:22] TR News Zink, the OpenGL on top of Vulkan driver gets 'Kopper' merged huge for the future http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163466#comment-33303 [17:22] TR Bot Why is Kopper and Zink important? AKA the future of OpenGL | Tux Machines [17:22] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163506 [17:22] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [17:22] bnchs electron shouldn't be used for anything [17:23] bnchs it's only used by developers who want to make their programs quickly [17:23] bnchs at the user's expense [17:23] bnchs and it results in low-quality programs [17:23] schestowitz-TR make its developers pay for the electricity [17:23] schestowitz-TR and then see how they abandon it [17:23] schestowitz-TR for waste [17:24] schestowitz-TR batteries also [17:24] schestowitz-TR for "phones" [17:25] TR News Linux Mint working on a new upgrade tool for major releases http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163423#comment-33304 [17:25] TR Bot Linux Mint 21 Vanessa Will Be Based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, New Upgrade Tool in the Works | Tux Machines [17:25] schestowitz-TR lots of talk about how bitcoin causes pollution [17:25] schestowitz-TR but not JS [17:25] schestowitz-TR companies love JS [17:25] schestowitz-TR they can sell more computers [17:25] schestowitz-TR and develop crApps [17:25] schestowitz-TR bitcoin is less useful to them [17:26] schestowitz-TR I want to see a headline comparing power wasted on JS [17:26] schestowitz-TR compared to a whole country [17:26] schestowitz-TR maybe sweden [17:26] schestowitz-TR maybe italy [17:26] schestowitz https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=xeon8380-linux-1year&num=1 [17:26] Alternative link CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=xeon8380-linux-1year&num=1 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=xeon8380-linux-1year&num=1 [17:26] TR Bot Xeon Platinum 8380 "Ice Lake" Linux Performance One Year After Launch - Phoronix [17:27] bnchs yes [17:27] bnchs it also means [17:27] bnchs they throw away any performance issues [17:27] bnchs as "just buy another computer bro" [17:28] bnchs i wan to see statistics on how much power wasted on a electron app [17:28] bnchs and modern news websites [17:28] bnchs running it on an average desktop CPU [17:32] TR News Links 08/04/2022: FreeBSD 13.1 RC2 and OpenSSH 9.0 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/openssh-9-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/08/openssh-9-0/ [17:32] TR Bot Links 08/04/2022: FreeBSD 13.1 RC2 and OpenSSH 9.0 | Techrights [17:33] matey electron.ms [17:33] bnchs we can fix climate change [17:33] bnchs IF WE STOP USING TONS OF JAVASCRIPT [17:34] MinceR we can't fix climate change [17:34] matey "mincer" is an abreviation [17:35] matey of "mister sunshine" [17:35] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163507 [17:35] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [17:35] matey (it just is) [17:35] bnchs statistics say that majority of power wasted [17:35] bnchs are wasted by browsers [17:35] bnchs and javascript engines [17:36] matey mincer sunshinebringer :) [17:36] bnchs tone down on the javascript, fatty [17:36] bnchs you're bringing up my power bill [17:36] bnchs and i'm poor [17:36] schestowitz-TR buy a new computer [17:36] schestowitz-TR with windows tax [17:36] schestowitz-TR to compensate for MS Electron [17:36] schestowitz-TR which you don't get to reject [17:36] bnchs that won't fix the power bill [17:36] schestowitz-TR "it's in the browser [17:37] schestowitz-TR "it's in the crAPP" [17:37] schestowitz-TR buy a new Windows PC [17:37] matey /me merges kde aith js into jskde, causes a global blackout in the power grids [17:37] schestowitz-TR pay for another licence [17:37] schestowitz-TR bloat helps them also pollute the planet with overproduction of machines [17:37] matey bitcoin miners: "whoa!" [17:38] matey i dont think that would be enough [17:38] TR News Peek inside your Git repo with rev-parse | https://opensource.com/article/22/4/git-repo-rev-parse Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux [17:39] TR Bot inside your Git repo with rev-parse | Opensource.com [17:39] matey sometimes it works temporarily [17:39] TR News War Thunder gets officially Steam Deck Verified | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/war-thunder-gets-officially-steam-deck-verified/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [17:39] Alternative link CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/war-thunder-gets-officially-steam-deck-verified/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/war-thunder-gets-officially-steam-deck-verified/ [17:39] TR Bot Thunder gets officially Steam Deck Verified | GamingOnLinux [17:39] psydruid forcing the baloo/akonadi/tracker stuff is a disgrace [17:39] matey /me knows it can even backfire [17:40] matey "i dont think derek taylor is worth my time anymore" [17:40] psydruid but hey, kill your desktop and I will gladly run away [17:40] matey "fig issued a FATWA against dt, derek taylor" [17:40] TR News HYPERCHARGE: Unboxed gets a fix for GNU/Linux to play on Windows Servers | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/hypercharge-unboxed-gets-a-fix-for-linux-to-play-on-windows-servers/ "with a small update being rolled out to fix up online play." [17:40] Alternative link CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/hypercharge-unboxed-gets-a-fix-for-linux-to-play-on-windows-servers/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/hypercharge-unboxed-gets-a-fix-for-linux-to-play-on-windows-servers/ [17:40] TR Bot Unboxed gets a fix for Linux to play on Windows Servers | GamingOnLinux [17:40] matey hardly [17:40] matey i stopped watching him after a couple of things turned me off [17:40] matey /me didnt know watching dt was mandatory [17:40] schestowitz-TR his s/n ratio is low [17:41] schestowitz-TR a lot of stuff about his politics [17:41] schestowitz-TR and some scripts you will never need [17:41] schestowitz-TR dt was discussed in another channel today [17:41] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:42] matey /me considers dt a run of the mill opportunist, but among that group hes relatively watchable [17:42] schestowitz-TR [10:11] <Techrights-sec> not sure. "influencer" is a euphemism for "shill" [17:42] schestowitz-TR [10:15] <schestowitz-TR> DT spams also [17:42] schestowitz-TR [10:15] <schestowitz-TR> fake reviews [17:42] schestowitz-TR [10:15] <schestowitz-TR> not sure if that's what you're about to say [17:42] schestowitz-TR [10:16] <Techrights-sec> Derek Taylor closed his Gemini capsule, he could write a perl or python [17:42] matey i would have never made a big deal of it. a big deal was made of it for me. [17:42] schestowitz-TR [10:16] <Techrights-sec> scraper for that. [17:42] schestowitz-TR [10:16] <Techrights-sec> Yes, but I think on average he's mostly a positive force. And despite [17:42] schestowitz-TR [10:16] <Techrights-sec> the most recent video so is Brodie Robertson. I disgree with most of the [17:42] schestowitz-TR [10:16] <Techrights-sec> assessment he made but one point he mentioned almost as an aside is actually [17:43] matey Derek Taylor closed his Gemini capsule <- another fad [17:43] schestowitz-TR gemini a fad? [17:43] matey not gemini, i mean for him personally [17:43] matey no, i love gemini [17:43] schestowitz-TR ah [17:43] schestowitz-TR he said he would make gemini his master [17:43] matey yeah [17:43] schestowitz-TR and the www site a derivative of the capsulew [17:43] schestowitz-TR that never actually happened [17:43] matey its sort of like the positive side of trolling [17:43] schestowitz-TR anyway, he mentiond techrights countless times [17:44] matey usually trolling is negative and gets reactions [17:44] matey but you know, you latch onto something that means something to people [17:44] matey like gemini... or even free software [17:44] matey then you abandon it just as quickly [17:44] schestowitz-TR you had me watch the clip part [17:44] matey its sort of like trolling, because you never really meant it [17:44] schestowitz-TR where he talks about Microsoft [17:44] schestowitz-TR it was a strike one [17:44] schestowitz-TR but I did not see a strike 2 [17:45] schestowitz-TR so I let the first one sort of expire [17:45] schestowitz-TR more recent videos are more boring [17:45] matey not for me-- what was worse was seeing him trash stallman when the cancellation happened [17:45] DaemonFC Borat voice: Theeese my neighbor. He is pain in my assholes! I cut my own hair. He go to salon. I wear clothes 15 years old. He go to mall every week. I use library and bittorrent. He have five streaming accounts. I get senior plan for phone line and free phone, he get $1,500 iPhone and AT&T. I invest in stocks and bonds. He invest in big screen TV every year. I learn to cook and buy in bulk. He go out to eat and have water delivered from [17:45] DaemonFC truck. I buy luxury car with cash, he cannot. GREAT SUCCESS! [17:45] schestowitz-TR like "ask DT" thing [17:45] matey so the microsoft thing wasnt even the biggest thing [17:45] matey and i only elaborated on not watching him because you asked me to elaborate [17:45] schestowitz-TR I found out about his channel very late [17:46] matey but i did mention the microsoft thing initially [17:46] schestowitz-TR maybe 2018 [17:46] schestowitz-TR because he commented on GNOME IIRC [17:46] schestowitz-TR some "boycott GNOME" rant [17:46] schestowitz-TR over the CoC [17:46] matey yeah the gnome thing was useful, because they had an openly racist policy [17:46] matey that said being racist against white people was ok [17:46] matey more or less [17:47] matey thats really not an unfair assessment of it [17:47] schestowitz-TR apparently he had been widely watcheed for years prior to that, but I was paying no attention at all to GulagTube [17:47] schestowitz-TR I started paying more attention new was running dry [17:47] schestowitz-TR *when news was runnign dry [17:47] schestowitz-TR it has gotten worse sinme [17:47] schestowitz-TR both the textual news and videos [17:47] matey i never had anything against other people watching him if they wanted [17:47] schestowitz-TR the "youtubers" run out of topic [17:47] schestowitz-TR newcomers and first timers never gert a chance [17:48] schestowitz-TR gulag cages them at zero [17:48] schestowitz-TR nobody can find out they evenm exist [17:48] schestowitz-TR and the old timers already covered all the impoertant issues [17:48] matey its like twitter video [17:48] schestowitz-TR so they are mostly dormant, inactive accounts [17:48] matey well, thats what vines is-- but i mean in terms of algorithms and censorship [17:48] matey vines, possibly tiktok because after tiktok i never heard about vines again [17:49] schestowitz-TR then the 'influencers' started doing #shorts [17:49] schestowitz-TR in youtube [17:49] schestowitz-TR meaningless stuff [17:49] matey the influencers were (almost by definition) instagrammers [17:49] matey but then they took over the web :) [17:49] schestowitz-TR If I wanted to get tiktok I think I'd need a "phone" and crApp [17:49] matey i think maybe you can do tiktok with a browser [17:49] schestowitz-TR not sure you can access it via "web" site [17:49] matey i tried it once but i didnt inhale [17:50] matey no i mean i literally tried to watch a tiktok video to see if it was even technically possible [17:50] schestowitz-TR "i didn't even enjoy it" [17:50] matey but the videos there have no appeal [17:50] schestowitz-TR "he meant nothing to me!" [17:50] matey in fact i said if they had any appeal at all, they would be copied to youtube [17:50] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I like the new Adwaita theme in GNOME 42. [17:50] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: want for the ads [17:51] schestowitz-TR *wait [17:51] matey "he meant nothing to me!" <- okay i admit it, i have stock in tiktok [17:51] DaemonFC Very sleek. Not all boxy and stupid looking like early GNOME 3. [17:51] matey i paid one youtube dollar for it [17:51] schestowitz-TR ad-waita' (waiter) [17:51] schestowitz-TR in the gnome nautilus file manager [17:51] schestowitz-TR the gnome ad-waiter [17:51] matey <DaemonFC> Very sleek. Not all boxy and stupid looking like early GNOME 3. <- just a pretty face [17:51] DaemonFC New York accent: Hey Waita! I want some watah! [17:52] DaemonFC <matey> <DaemonFC> Very sleek. Not all boxy and stupid looking like early GNOME 3. <- just a pretty face [17:52] matey gnome, a pretty face that will take all your resources and eat you out of house and home [17:52] DaemonFC They seem to ave solved the memory leaks that have plagued GNOME for the last decade. [17:52] DaemonFC *have [17:52] matey dont worry, they will make more [17:52] matey i solved gnomes leaks years ago, when i refused to use gnome 3 [17:52] DaemonFC GNOME Software finally doesn't sit there and bloat up to 700 MiB doing nothing like it does in Debian. [17:53] DaemonFC That was by far the biggest reason to use KDE instead. [17:53] matey GNOME Software finally doesn't sit there and bloat up to 700 MiB <- must be time for gnome 4 then [17:53] matey they just fixed it at the last minute so they could gaslight people who said "gnome 3 was crap" [17:53] matey "no, they fixed it!" [17:53] DaemonFC Well, GNOME 4x is their new versioning scheme to reflect that it's built atop GTK4. [17:53] DaemonFC But GTK3 applications still work okay. [17:53] matey minus a few icons [17:53] matey but did you manage to fix that? [17:53] matey /me deletes icons anyway [17:53] DaemonFC Well, yeah, but I "fixed" it. [17:54] matey heh [17:54] DaemonFC For now, just installing GNOME-Icon-Theme fixes many non-GNOME GTK apps like Transmission-GTK. [17:54] DaemonFC Even if you don't use that Icon Theme globally. [17:54] matey my applications bitch and moan that they cant find icons in the term output [17:54] DaemonFC It will fall back on it and work okay. [17:54] matey but im like "yeah, i know, im the one who removed them" [17:54] DaemonFC The Qt apps don't know what to do. [17:54] DaemonFC So I just installed them as Flatpaks, and then they work. [17:55] TR News Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Tech Trends that Will Most Reshape Companies Over the Next Decade https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/04/which-technology-trends-have-the-most-momentum.html Source: irvingwb [17:55] Alternative link CloudFlare: irvingwb.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/04/which-technology-trends-have-the-most-momentum.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/04/which-technology-trends-have-the-most-momentum.html [17:55] TR Bot Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Tech Trends that Will Most Reshape Companies Over the Next Decade [17:55] DaemonFC I use Okular, Krita, VLC, and QBittorrent quite a lot. [17:55] DaemonFC And Flatpak is cleaner than dealing with them shitting all over your GNOME system through traditional packaging. [17:55] TR News IBM's vet (the man who brought GNU/Linux there) Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Tech Trends that Will Most Reshape Companies Over the Next Decade https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/04/which-technology-trends-have-the-most-momentum.html [17:55] Alternative link CloudFlare: irvingwb.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/04/which-technology-trends-have-the-most-momentum.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/04/which-technology-trends-have-the-most-momentum.html [17:56] DaemonFC In particular, it moves all of that library junk off to the side where only they use it, and grabs only the files the apps you use need. [17:56] matey /me thinks flatpak is like a large bin liner full of shit, neatly combined in a large bin liner [17:56] DaemonFC Then it puts their settings in a standard place, which has never been a big thing. [17:56] matey but i mean that will make some people happy because its "neatly contained" [17:56] matey other people will be unhappy that its a giant load of shit [17:56] matey it depends on what you want it for [17:57] DaemonFC Yeah, I don't like the whole "mess" that "foreign" applications bring with them. [17:57] TR News "Welcome to the March 2022 report from the Reproducible Builds project! In our monthly reports we outline the most important things that we have been up to over the past month." https://reproducible-builds.org/reports/2022-03/ [17:57] TR Bot Builds in March 2022 reproducible-builds.org [17:57] DaemonFC They don't conform to the rest of my system, so this imposes some sort of "off to the side" sanity on them. [17:57] matey of course, thats the entire advantage [17:57] matey but... [17:57] matey to support that, you have this other load of shit (os tree) [17:58] matey that takes over your system (usually, if not always) [17:58] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The lady at Comcast tried to sell me a 100 Mbps Internet Essentials instead of the 50. It would be $30 instead of $10. So they bill you three times as much for twice the speed. LOL [17:58] schestowitz-TR for normal [17:58] schestowitz-TR you get tiers [17:58] schestowitz-TR like Vista Deluxe Super Extra [17:58] DaemonFC 50 Mbps is enough to connect to the VPN and leave BitTorrent going until it has the files, schestowitz-TR [17:58] DaemonFC So it's fine with me. I'm not streaming, so there's no buffer. [17:59] schestowitz-TR they artificially limit your speed [17:59] schestowitz-TR they don't do this here [17:59] schestowitz-TR they stoped throttling too [17:59] DaemonFC For $9.95 a month and no equipment fees, I'll deal with it. [17:59] schestowitz-TR so the limit if your pipe's max capacity [17:59] DaemonFC That's still not a bad deal. [17:59] schestowitz-TR "budget" airline [17:59] DaemonFC Reminds me of the slashing prices scene in Falling Down. [17:59] schestowitz-TR "I don't need to urinate in the flight anyway" ● Apr 08 [18:00] schestowitz-TR "I don't need to extend my legs a bit" [18:00] schestowitz-TR "I don't need to take a nap" [18:00] schestowitz-TR "who needs an armrest anyway?" [18:00] DaemonFC Where it's 1993 and he goes in a convenience store and he's like "A dollar for a can of Coke? TOO MUCH!!!!" and starts beating over the displays with a ball bat. [18:00] schestowitz-TR "I don't need a suitcase, I'll budget what I put in a small backpack" [18:01] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: next stop: "it's OK, I can stand in the aisle" [18:01] schestowitz-TR "I don't need to sit anyway, I'm still young" [18:01] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:01] DaemonFC LOL I heard about them proposing this! [18:01] DaemonFC Just put handles on the aisle like the city bus. [18:01] schestowitz-TR standing seats [18:01] schestowitz-TR it's a patent iirc [18:01] DaemonFC Charge people $40 for tickets. [18:02] schestowitz-TR packs of sardines [18:02] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, We had to ascend due to a severe storm on the way to Vegas. [18:02] DaemonFC So that's probably the closest I'll ever get to space. [18:02] schestowitz-TR they can reuse the animal cases in the belly of trhe planes [18:02] schestowitz-TR if there are not many pets like dogs in them [18:02] schestowitz-TR put some beds in there [18:03] schestowitz-TR next to the airmail bags [18:03] schestowitz-TR "look, there is some unused space in the cockpit" [18:03] DaemonFC The pilot said we were ascending to maximum altitude to fly over the storm. [18:04] DaemonFC So that would have been almost 8 miles up for that aircraft according to the FAA. [18:04] DaemonFC I think the legal definition of space is 62 miles. [18:05] DaemonFC If you get to 62 miles altitude, you're technically an astronaut. [18:05] DaemonFC So that's what the billionaires are doing now. [18:05] DaemonFC The minimum definition of "astronaut". [18:05] matey /me cant imagine there is enough air up there for a passenger jet [18:05] matey for a spyplane, MAYBE, but im not a physicist [18:05] DaemonFC It looked pretty black up there. [18:06] DaemonFC It was surreal, actually. [18:06] matey but i mean the atmosphere is what makes the plane work [18:06] matey if youre a spyplane maybe you can get by on the thrust of the engines [18:06] DaemonFC And looking down at one point, you could see the grand canyon. It was so small. [18:06] matey but even then, the thrust is compensating for the fact that the wings cant produce much lift with so little air around them [18:06] DaemonFC Then we started descent, and nothing for a while. No lights or anything. [18:07] DaemonFC Then out of the darkness, an entire city of lights (Vegas). [18:07] DaemonFC Then I booked a Grand Canyon tour and got to see it up close. [18:07] DaemonFC Up close it's so big that it just blows your mind. [18:07] DaemonFC If I ever go out west again, I'm spending the week there. [18:08] bnchs qbittorrent has a CPU hog issue [18:08] bnchs but i still ue it [18:08] DaemonFC It's so big it almost looks small. [18:08] DaemonFC It's like you're looking into a really big landscape portrait and your mind can't really reconcile it properly, what you're seeing. [18:08] matey bittorrent is a beast, even the command line version [18:09] DaemonFC So everything is, of course, a matter of perspective. [18:09] DaemonFC If you're 8 miles up, it's just a small path in the dirt. [18:09] schestowitz https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Kernel-Driver-Source [18:09] Alternative link CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Kernel-Driver-Source https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Kernel-Driver-Source [18:09] TR Bot NVIDIA Open-Source Linux Kernel Graphics Driver Appears - Phoronix [18:09] matey /me wonders if its because the canyon is so fucking huge-- which it is of course-- or whether its because we spend so much time in cities where shits close together [18:10] DaemonFC Cities are not how people are meant to live. [18:10] matey i mean youd want a farmer with a very large farm to stand next to a "city boy" and both look at the canyon [18:10] DaemonFC It's soul-crushing. [18:10] matey if they both shit their pants, its not just the city [18:10] matey but maybe theres a difference [18:10] DaemonFC It isn't just the city. [18:10] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@gph63bcnfvisc.irc) has joined #techrights [18:10] DaemonFC I've lived in rural and flat areas where it just goes on and on, and it's not exactly magnificent. [18:11] TR News Targeting banksters and military... where the capital is https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hats-state-enterprise-open-source-report-highlights-financial-services-industry [18:11] TR Bot Red Hats The State of Enterprise Open Source report: Highlights from the financial services industry [18:11] matey fair point [18:11] DaemonFC You can see for a few miles (because it's farmland). [18:11] matey cool, so youre our farm boy in the experiment [18:11] matey /me avoids jokes about fetching pitchers and whatnot [18:11] TR News "a) The distros I am more comfortable with are Debian and its derivatives. What is currently the nimblest Debian based distro that I could host under Parallels with the sole purpose of running this damn Protege app under its Java?" https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/virtual-linux-with-parallels-on-m1-machines.2341077/ [18:11] Alternative link CloudFlare: macrumors.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/virtual-linux-with-parallels-on-m1-machines.2341077/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/virtual-linux-with-parallels-on-m1-machines.2341077/ [18:11] TR Bot Virtual Linux with Parallels on M1 machines | MacRumors Forums [18:12] DaemonFC To put it into perspective though, I was timing how long before my car passed the windmills off int the distance. [18:12] DaemonFC I was traveling at roughly 90 miles per hour. [18:12] DaemonFC It still took minutes. [18:12] DaemonFC When I was downstate last year. [18:13] DaemonFC I always go about 80-90 on rural interstates, although since I have the MetroMile device now, I cap my speed at 78 miles per hour. [18:13] DaemonFC If you spend time traveling over 80 miles per hour, it counts against you when your insurance renews. [18:13] matey whats the purpose of metromile other than to curb speed? [18:13] matey oh it helps your insurance rate unless youre an idiot? [18:13] DaemonFC It keeps my car insurance rather cheap. [18:13] matey got it [18:13] DaemonFC About half of what I'd pay anywhere else. [18:14] TR News Bigger targets for media FUD campaigns which intentionally overlook (barely even mention) epic incidents and back doors in proprietary software, whose vendors pay the media https://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities-threats/linux-systems-are-becoming-bigger-targets [18:14] Alternative link CloudFlare: darkreading.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities-threats/linux-systems-are-becoming-bigger-targets https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities-threats/linux-systems-are-becoming-bigger-targets [18:14] TR Bot Linux Systems Are Becoming Bigger Targets [18:14] matey does it track via gps or just acceleration? [18:14] DaemonFC It's bled other companies of enough customers to annoy them. [18:14] DaemonFC Allstate introduced MileWise now. [18:14] matey /me notes that accelerometer sensors can produce roadmaps but it depends on the processing [18:15] TR News "So, does the new Acer Swift 3 run GNU/Linux?" https://www.xda-developers.com/does-acer-swift-3-2022-run-linux/ [18:15] Alternative link CloudFlare: xda-developers.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.xda-developers.com/does-acer-swift-3-2022-run-linux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.xda-developers.com/does-acer-swift-3-2022-run-linux/ [18:15] TR Bot Does the Acer Swift 3 (2022) laptop run Linux OS? [18:15] DaemonFC It tracks speed, amount of miles, time of day or night, areas you drive in, weather at the time and place. [18:15] matey weather! [18:15] matey ffs [18:15] DaemonFC And it assesses how much risk you are of a serious accident, on average. [18:15] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: siren) [18:15] DaemonFC Then it produces a new quote every 6 months at renewal time. [18:15] DaemonFC Oh yeah, and hard braking. [18:15] DaemonFC Don't do too much of that. [18:15] TR News "BUT nobody uses LINUX!" "Oh, yeah??" https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/iar-systems-brings-low-code-state-machine-design-solution-to-linux-301520729.html [18:15] Alternative link CloudFlare: prnewswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/iar-systems-brings-low-code-state-machine-design-solution-to-linux-301520729.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/iar-systems-brings-low-code-state-machine-design-solution-to-linux-301520729.html [18:15] TR Bot IAR Systems brings low-code state machine design solution to Linux [18:16] matey if you find a squirrel, just run the fucker over [18:16] DaemonFC Like if some idiot gets in front of you and you have to do it once or twice, it's not a big problem. [18:16] matey no need to get a premium adjustment [18:16] matey "sorry buddy, im not made of money!" [18:16] TR News Thankfully our friends of Microsoft are still looking for a cure for cancer. They look for way to kill GNU/Linux. [18:17] DaemonFC schestowitz, In the last 10 years, I haven't seen any examples of code that may be generally useful to "Linux" users from Microsoft. [18:17] DaemonFC Except maybe the AMDGPU patch which was 100 lines in the entire kernel, which is tens of millions of lines. [18:17] matey and will probably lead to a huge vulnerability someday [18:18] matey who knows why [18:18] DaemonFC Well, Microsoft is under a review process for that. [18:18] matey they can brand it "GRAPHIC VIOLENCE" [18:18] DaemonFC They have to have it checked by AMD and then AMD has to have it approved by the graphics driver subsystem maintainer. [18:18] matey or pixeldeath! [18:18] DaemonFC So that's at least better than a raw sewage pipe going straight from Microsoft into Linux. [18:19] schestowitz-TR yes, I agree [18:19] schestowitz-TR no good code ever comes from them [18:19] schestowitz-TR even grek k-microsoft complained [18:19] schestowitz-TR about technical issues [18:19] matey fool me once, shame on you. fool me a thousand times, wtf is wrong with me man [18:19] schestowitz-TR not the lack of need for benefit of actual users [18:19] DaemonFC Intel's driver code on Linux is MUCH better than it is in Windows. [18:19] DaemonFC In Windows, a lot of the fault is Microsoft, obviously. [18:19] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163507 [18:19] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [18:19] DaemonFC They define the driver ABI. [18:20] DaemonFC Then Intel has to sort of code around the bugs in Windows. [18:20] DaemonFC So they don't control the ground they stand on and the quality of the driver suffers from it. [18:20] schestowitz-TR Intel needs WIndows [18:20] DaemonFC The Intel driver on Linux is far, FAR, better. [18:20] schestowitz-TR to sell lots of junk [18:20] matey in linux you can only blame developers (developers developers) who were bribed by microsoft as proxies [18:20] DaemonFC I even have better performance in gaming on Intel's Linux driver, even when it's a Windows game. [18:21] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163508 [18:21] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [18:21] DaemonFC Windows is so bloated and terrible, that even having to go through the translation layer of Wine and VKD3D to get to Linux is more efficient than straight up running the game on Windows. [18:22] TR News Pygments style gallery https://dt.iki.fi/pygments-gallery [18:22] TR Bot style gallery | dt.iki.fi [18:22] DaemonFC In some cases, this has been true for many years. Windows games using OpenGL didn't cause much overhead in Wine so the Windows binaries of like, Doom 3, they ran well in Wine. [18:22] bnchs windows is so bloated that it wouldn't even be called bloated [18:22] DaemonFC And the Linux port of Doom 3 didn't work for long. [18:22] bnchs just call it straight out fat [18:23] DaemonFC They ripped out OSS emulation from ALSA soon after the port, then stripped it out of the kernel. [18:23] DaemonFC So the only way to make sound work again by like 2010 was to add plugins to ALSA and then compile your own custom Linux kernel. [18:23] DaemonFC And it was just easier by that point to use Wine. [18:23] TR News PostgreSQL: pgAdmin 4 v6.8 Released https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgadmin-4-v68-released-2433/ Source: postgresql [18:23] TR Bot PostgreSQL: pgAdmin 4 v6.8 Released [18:24] bnchs wine still doesn't support MIDI playback in DirectSound [18:24] bnchs that means some old game maker games have no music [18:24] DaemonFC Chips Challenge works though. ;) [18:25] TR News OE and woofQ project tarballs used for Easy 3.4.5 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163488#comment-33305 [18:25] TR Bot EasyOS 3.4.5 | Tux Machines [18:27] bnchs yeah [18:27] bnchs most of the MIDI files old games had were catchy [18:27] bnchs i wish i could dump them somehow [18:27] DaemonFC https://store.steampowered.com/app/346850/Chips_Challenge_1/ [18:27] Alternative link CloudFlare: steampowered.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://store.steampowered.com/app/346850/Chips_Challenge_1/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://store.steampowered.com/app/346850/Chips_Challenge_1/ [18:27] TR Bot Chip's Challenge 1 on Steam [18:28] DaemonFC "Melinda the Mental Marvel" [18:28] DaemonFC MALINDA [18:28] DaemonFC Creator of Bob? [18:28] bnchs it's a steam game [18:28] schestowitz-TR Bill and Lolita gates Foundation [18:28] bnchs that's fucking dumb [18:28] DaemonFC http://toastytech.com/guis/bob.html [18:28] psydruid MIRINDA [18:28] TR Bot Microsoft Bob [18:29] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/bill-lolita-gates.png [18:29] bnchs minimum operating system: windows vista [18:29] TR News Upgrading from Ubuntu 20.04? Look Out for These Features in 22.04 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163509 [18:29] TR Bot Upgrading from Ubuntu 20.04? Look Out for These Features in 22.04 | Tux Machines [18:29] schestowitz-TR MARISOL Gates [18:29] schestowitz-TR Seattle Police: we went to the mention of MARISOL [18:29] schestowitz-TR we picked up a boy who loves boys [18:29] schestowitz-TR and rich people [18:30] DaemonFC " [18:30] DaemonFC Bob required a minimum of a 486 with 8 megs of ram, 30 megs of free disk space, and 256 color VGA. Many computers of the day did not meet these minimum requirements. [18:30] DaemonFC It was too "cute" for the average PC users of the day. [18:30] DaemonFC Most people at the time who wanted ease of use would just get a Macintosh. [18:30] DaemonFC Bob was not useful enough to justify its initial sale price of almost $100. [18:30] DaemonFC Windows 95, which was released later that year, had the new Windows Explorer user interface which wiped the floor with Bob. [18:30] schestowitz-TR Bill never knew rich people [18:30] psydruid best used before Vista 95-2000 [18:30] DaemonFC " [18:30] schestowitz-TR until he started hanging out with "jeffy [18:30] DaemonFC My 486 only had 250 MB on the entire disk. [18:30] DaemonFC I ended up erasing Windows to free up space. [18:30] schestowitz-TR mine 170MB [18:30] schestowitz-TR nowadays even email eats up the space [18:31] schestowitz-TR one email with html crap in it can be 200kb [18:31] DaemonFC DOS software was the only useful part of the system those days. [18:31] schestowitz-TR 5 of those is already a burden [18:31] schestowitz-TR zip drive helps a bit [18:31] schestowitz-TR expensive and low [18:31] DaemonFC Microsoft forced Windows on OEMs so they'd pass the licensing cost of something essentially useless onto the customer. [18:31] schestowitz-TR is iomega taken over by now? [18:31] TR News 10 essential Linux tools for network and security pros Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163510 [18:31] TR Bot 10 essential Linux tools for network and security pros | Tux Machines [18:31] DaemonFC iomega has been dead for a long time. [18:32] DaemonFC My Uncle Stan had (probably still has) a system 7.5 Mac with a ZIP drive. [18:32] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163511 [18:32] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:32] schestowitz-TR Uncle Stan [18:32] schestowitz-TR Stan from the song? [18:32] DaemonFC ? [18:32] schestowitz-TR Stan from South Park? [18:32] schestowitz-TR "Stan""uncle" [18:32] DaemonFC Stanley [18:33] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_(song) [18:33] TR Bot Stan (song) - Wikipedia [18:33] DaemonFC He's a good man. He's the most normal one out of my dad's family. [18:33] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOMhN-hfMtY [18:33] TR Bot https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=gOMhN-hfMtY [18:33] TR Bot invidious.namazso.eu | Eminem - Stan (Long Version) ft. Dido - Invidious [18:33] DaemonFC When he was 17 he got pinched with a bunch of other teenagers on a home invasion. The cops pulled up and saw him stealing a TV set, and showed him some leniency. [18:33] DaemonFC He never got in trouble again. [18:34] DaemonFC He's been in church every Sunday and Wednesday for the last 40 or so years as far as I know. [18:34] schestowitz-TR Felta and Stan [18:34] schestowitz-TR one makes good with God [18:34] schestowitz-TR the other collects porno tapes [18:34] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: your inheritance is coming [18:34] DaemonFC My dad would get angry when mom tried to make him go to church on Easter and Christmas. [18:34] schestowitz-TR bin bags full of VHS [18:35] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: now scientology [18:35] DaemonFC "Okay! I'll go! FUCKING BITCH! I'll go! Are you happy now, FUCKING BITCH!?" [18:35] schestowitz-TR it flata bit awkward at first [18:35] DaemonFC Then he'd show up to church in his suit. [18:35] schestowitz-TR it felta [18:35] DaemonFC That's Felta. [18:35] schestowitz-TR but he learned to love it [18:35] schestowitz-TR he's like tom cruise now [18:35] schestowitz-TR or john trvaolta [18:35] DaemonFC And by the time he did go for Easter or Christmas he ruined the whole day and everyone was in a really awful mood. [18:36] DaemonFC Then we'd get back and have Easter dinner with the whole family over and Felta would grab a plate and lock himself in his "study" to masturbate to porno magazines and do correspondence studies at IU and play Gold Box Dungeons and Dragons on DOS. [18:37] DaemonFC That's when the mood outside of that room started to lighten up and everyone else enjoyed the day. [18:38] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, That's my dad. [18:38] DaemonFC Then they had a company dinner at a fancy restaurant in Indianapolis and he wouldn't let mom have access to any money, including what she made as a hospital nurse. [18:38] DaemonFC So she had to super glue the heel back onto her shoe. [18:38] TR News Gulag strings attached to projects that apply https://opensource.googleblog.com/2022/04/google-summer-of-code-2022-contributor-applications-now-open.html [18:38] TR Bot Google Summer of Code 2022: Contributor applications now open | Google Open Source Blog [18:39] TR News Stable Kernels: 5.17.2, 5.16.19, 5.15.33, and 5.10.110 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163512 [18:39] TR Bot Stable Kernels: 5.17.2, 5.16.19, 5.15.33, and 5.10.110 | Tux Machines [18:39] DaemonFC And she tried to get him to wear something nice, but he said "THEY SAID DRESS CASUAL!" and so he went in an old t-shirt, suspenders, and the jeans he mowed the lawn in, with grass stains. [18:39] DaemonFC Mom said other people were staring at him and he was oblivious to it and she was sitting there wishing she could crawl under the table. [18:40] TR News "The chimp stood outside, pounding its chest. I was hungry. I couldn't stand there all night waiting for it to leave. Furious, I pounded my own chest and opened the door." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/879 [18:40] DaemonFC She said I got the best parts of my dad though. She said "Well, at least you're smart and good with money and not mean to people for absolutely no reason all the time, and you're tall." [18:43] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The other day Mandy was demanding a hair cut and I told him "I'm buying a car. We do not have money to take you for a haircut!" and I made him get in the bathroom and I did it myself, and he doesn't look any worse than what Great Clips does. [18:43] DaemonFC They just charge a lot. [18:43] DaemonFC My god, with the inflation and tips and all that, you're talking $30 for a hair cut now. [18:43] DaemonFC Thanks Biden. [18:44] DaemonFC And the state of Illinois isn't making it any better. [18:44] DaemonFC They force hair stylists to undergo a basic psychology course and how to discuss women's issues like domestic violence to get their license. [18:45] DaemonFC So that puts up barriers to becoming a hair stylist, and so there will be less, and the ones that get the license to do it cost more because of the state. [18:45] TR News UK COVID-19 Deaths Soar to About 1,500 Per Week http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/08/uk-deaths-soar/ [18:45] TR Bot Blog Archive UK COVID-19 Deaths Soar to About 1,500 Per Week [18:45] schestowitz-TR matey: my barber shut down [18:45] schestowitz-TR last year [18:45] schestowitz-TR so now rianne cuts it [18:45] schestowitz-TR he used to charge 10 pounds [18:45] schestowitz-TR impossible to go lower than that [18:45] schestowitz-TR years ago it was 8 pounds, very low [18:46] schestowitz-TR (of course he was gay and played bet shop boys there, never bothered me as long as he cut well) [18:47] bnchs i wonder [18:47] bnchs in the future, we will never own things [18:47] bnchs just subscribe to them [18:47] bnchs subscription to a computer you don't own [18:47] DaemonFC I remember in the 90s. [18:48] DaemonFC Max the barber. Down the street. [18:48] bnchs subscription to movies you don't own [18:48] DaemonFC Max's Barber Shop [18:48] DaemonFC He charged $5. [18:48] TR News http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163498#comment-33306 [18:48] TR Bot Tumbleweed Gets New Default GCC | Tux Machines [18:48] TR News openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2022/14 Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163498#comment-33306 [18:48] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: yes, 90s [18:49] schestowitz-TR in the 90s I paid even less [18:49] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, There's an entire episode of Married With Children. Al's barber dies and he goes to a salon. It's expensive and full of gays, and all of the men Al knows end up going there and they get "hairstyles". [18:49] schestowitz-TR bnchs: they are not assured to get their way [18:49] schestowitz-TR same for clown computing [18:49] schestowitz-TR look at watches, tablets and other fads [18:49] schestowitz-TR they come and go [18:49] bnchs they'll ban ownership [18:49] schestowitz-TR like a fashion [18:49] DaemonFC And then Al finds out his barber's dad is still alive "and living in Cicero". "He's in his 90s but he still cuts hair!" and he turns around and there's several bald spots with bandaids on them. [18:49] bnchs you will find black markets of computers [18:49] bnchs that you can buy instead of subscription [18:50] TR News OpenSSH 9.0 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163513 [18:50] TR Bot OpenSSH 9.0 released | Tux Machines [18:50] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163514 [18:50] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:50] *psydruid has bought used computers on marktplaats.nl [18:51] DaemonFC bnchs, I'm probably going to buy the Buick next week. [18:51] DaemonFC Early next week. [18:51] DaemonFC It's a 2008. No "smart" shit. [18:51] bnchs the computers are on some guy's basement [18:51] DaemonFC I told Roy it's probably the last car I'll ever own that works right, because it has "dials and gauges and buttons". [18:51] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: not sure, either [18:51] bnchs you knock on his door and tell him "wheres the good stuff" [18:51] psydruid generally cheaper than buying on its parent eBay's site, which never became a big success in this country [18:51] schestowitz-TR there is a "counter" to that [18:51] DaemonFC Instead of tablets that control everything and burn out and then nobody makes it anymore so no heat. [18:51] schestowitz-TR and pushback against laws that try to impose that [18:52] schestowitz-TR so it'll create a market of real cars [18:52] schestowitz-TR like real banks [18:52] schestowitz-TR for people who don't want modern where it doesn't belong and is just marketing gimmicks [18:52] schestowitz-TR cars too [18:52] psydruid we will still own computers [18:52] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I refuse to buy anything with tablets and digital gauges that need a screen. [18:52] schestowitz-TR psydruid: they may even become cheaper [18:52] schestowitz-TR as people leave more behind [18:52] schestowitz-TR create an over-supply [18:53] DaemonFC I specifically asked my mechanic if the Buick had any of that, and he said it was like close to the end of the line for when they didn't come with that. [18:53] psydruid we will just get them from the black market a.k.a. China [18:53] psydruid yes [18:53] DaemonFC It was also the last year of the 3800 V6. [18:53] psydruid I'm waiting for that crash to happen [18:53] schestowitz-TR like I said, there's a counterculture to overuse of "tech" [18:53] schestowitz-TR 'tech' [sic] [18:53] DaemonFC GM introduced all new V6s in 2009 with "better gas mileage" and new transmissions, and none of it was any good. [18:53] schestowitz-TR and it's not unabombers [18:53] schestowitz-TR it's reasonable people [18:53] DaemonFC Very weak transmissions, lots of engine problems. [18:53] schestowitz-TR some of them young, too [18:53] DaemonFC The 2008 Buick still has the 4t60e transmission on it. [18:53] schestowitz-TR they're not THAT, gullible [18:54] schestowitz-TR a toilet should not even "outsmart" you [18:54] DaemonFC Very strong transmission. Most will last 300,000 miles or more trouble-free, if you just change the transmission fluid out every 60,000 miles or so. [18:54] schestowitz-TR it's a waste of money, privacy issues aside [18:55] DaemonFC I talked to Mandy. He says he can take the bus back home when the weather is good. [18:56] DaemonFC Eh, it's one bus with no transfer, so $2 and don't even need a Ventra card. [18:56] DaemonFC Car gets 17 mpg in the city, 11 miles to pick him up and come back home. Gas is $4.19 a gallon. Miles cost me like 3 cents each probably on the Buick. Just a guess. [18:57] matey <schestowitz-TR> some of them young, too <- indeed its the young who are building cpus in their garage [18:58] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@x7va5n7zgh7hg.irc) has joined #techrights [18:58] matey maybe in the future we will buy a zpu (zeloof processing unit) [18:58] schestowitz-TR ha [18:58] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: good to see you're not fighting much anymore [18:59] matey he probably deserves that much credit [18:59] schestowitz-TR I was getting worried [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 97.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 299.75 [18:59] schestowitz-TR matey: some very young people in this channel [18:59] schestowitz-TR not young enough for gates foundation [18:59] schestowitz-TR but a lot younger than me [18:59] matey but if theres ever a zeloof foundation we must work together to push it into the sea [18:59] schestowitz-TR and they GET software freedom [18:59] schestowitz-TR one of the FUD patterns against RMS is that he puts off young generation [18:59] schestowitz-TR with jokes and all ● Apr 08 [19:00] schestowitz-TR I don't quite see that [19:00] schestowitz-TR I actually see many very senior people moaning about him [19:00] schestowitz-TR the coup leaders [19:00] matey one of the FUD patterns against RMS is that he puts off young generation <- they did the same thing to ted grant, said he was old and feeble and that he pissed everyone off [19:00] matey then they booted him out [19:00] matey rms still comes back to ask questions after the talk [19:00] schestowitz-TR the thing I see is that many very senior people are sceptical of tech that they did not grow up with [19:00] schestowitz-TR they will die [19:01] schestowitz-TR but so will people who hate RMS [19:01] schestowitz-TR after them [19:01] matey hes going to do his own talk witout lieplanet, i think thats great [19:01] matey even if he wont have anything to say [19:01] schestowitz-TR so then we can shape a perception around "NOT TOO MUCH TECH!!" [19:01] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Marriage sort of nudges people to resolve their arguments. [19:01] DaemonFC Because the alternative isn't just pack up and leave. There are courts and judges and juries and shit. [19:01] DaemonFC Expensive divorce lawyers. [19:01] DaemonFC Disaster on both sides. [19:01] matey then we can shape a perception around "NOT TOO MUCH TECH!!" <- open source is always ready to attack minimalism [19:02] matey if you dont stand up to open source theres no point in promoting minimalism, they will rip it to shreds [19:02] matey even RELATIVE minimalism [19:02] matey like lxde as "lightweight" [19:02] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, It fosters an equilibrium unless things just get so bad that you're willing to do ANYTHING to leave. [19:02] DaemonFC And that's sort of the point. [19:02] matey It fosters an equilibrium unless things just get so bad that you're willing to do ANYTHING to leave. <- holy shit [19:03] matey Marriage sort of nudges people to resolve their arguments. <- or bury them [19:03] matey with petty arguments its helpful [19:03] matey with important arguments, its like a long acting poison (unless people get out) [19:03] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [19:04] matey most people suck at resolving things so they resort to compromise [19:04] matey and since most people suck at compromise, it ends up being lose-lose [19:04] DaemonFC <matey> with important arguments, its like a long acting poison (unless people get out) [19:04] matey dfc isnt wrong, but 50% of marriages still end in divorce [19:04] DaemonFC Mom stayed married to MY DAD from 1974 to 2000. [19:04] schestowitz-TR matey: mniamalism is not the same [19:04] schestowitz-TR there is luddites [19:04] schestowitz-TR that's one thing [19:04] schestowitz-TR about labour [19:05] schestowitz-TR there's minimalism, possession [19:05] matey luddite is usually a misnomer / slur [19:05] schestowitz-TR there's a lot to do with human touch and service [19:05] matey they exist, but its a common charge against any call for sanity [19:05] schestowitz-TR because many are extroverts [19:05] matey thats the most common usage [19:05] schestowitz-TR FSF is not about minimalism [19:05] schestowitz-TR RMS is [19:05] matey rms is not [19:05] schestowitz-TR flying coach and stuff [19:05] DaemonFC She let him convince her that she needed him and couldn't do better. I don't know if she COULD NOT do better, but she DID NOT do better in her next two marriages. They were both worse than my dad. [19:05] matey oh you mean in life [19:05] matey yes in life rms is a minimalist [19:05] matey in gnu... not so much [19:06] schestowitz-TR sleeping in the office etc. [19:06] DaemonFC He never hit her and he never cheated on her and she was never having utilities cut off and no food in the house because they spent all of the money. [19:06] matey rms should know better than to think the cpu and ram run like water [19:06] matey when moores law has never made it so [19:06] matey bloatware has always remained a step ahead [19:06] MinceR rms is not about minimalism either [19:06] MinceR emacs is not minimalist :> [19:06] matey mincer: not with software [19:06] matey not with software at all [19:06] matey einm is not... [19:06] MinceR eine [19:07] schestowitz-TR software is different, it doesn't take materials to copy [19:07] schestowitz-TR there's runtime bloat [19:07] schestowitz-TR and code bloat [19:07] matey it doesn't take materials to copy <- it does take materials to copy [19:07] MinceR even glibc isn't minimalist [19:07] schestowitz-TR you can have a massive program with tiny footprint [19:07] schestowitz-TR it would just load things on demand [19:07] matey it takes storage, it takes a computing device, it takes energy [19:07] schestowitz-TR and allocate resources when needed [19:07] matey when people are in here saying that js causes global warming [19:07] schestowitz-TR matey: to produce [19:07] matey then they turn around and pretend the same doesnt apply to gnu [19:07] DaemonFC So he was better in that respect, and I'm absolutely certain that no amount of psychological abuse from my dad did as much damage as being beaten up by Brian. [19:07] schestowitz-TR but you produce it only once, usually [19:07] matey to produce <- no, to copy [19:07] matey to download, to store, to load into ram [19:08] schestowitz-TR it can be a large program but running on very little [19:08] DaemonFC He only got me a couple of times and I still have PTSD from it. [19:08] matey but you produce it only once, usually <- computers are constnatly copying information, this is an old copryright reform trope [19:08] schestowitz-TR like wikipedia program with lots of disk space [19:08] matey you cant have one copy of anything ont a computer [19:08] matey it "copies" things into ram [19:08] DaemonFC The police investigated me too after the fight, but charged him with it because there were witnesses that he threw the first punch. [19:08] matey the thing is, bloat uses PHYSICAL resources [19:09] matey and the more you bloat up gnu, the more shit you pile into the landfills [19:09] matey just like with windows [19:09] DaemonFC He gave me a concussion and kneeled on my neck and before I could pass out, I picked up a big landscaping rock and broke his hand. [19:09] schestowitz-TR the bigger element is, [19:09] schestowitz-TR number of machines rto produce [19:09] schestowitz-TR JS and web 'browsers' made irt necessary to buy more beefy machines [19:09] matey no, this is what leads to ewaste and energy waste [19:09] schestowitz-TR which means welding and melting things [19:09] matey theres no law that applies to windows and not to gnu [19:09] DaemonFC It was awful. Now Roy jokes about me living in my car "again". [19:09] DaemonFC That's why I did it the first time. [19:10] matey Now Roy jokes about me living in my car "again" <- i wouldnt do that unless i hated someone. even then, probably not [19:10] matey joking about someone elses extreme poverty is bad karma [19:10] matey if you believe in karma [19:10] matey i wouldnt joke about matt (either one) living in their car [19:10] DaemonFC I only lived in the car a couple weeks. [19:10] matey ok, i might. i HOPE i wouldnt [19:11] DaemonFC I parked it out behind an abandoned bowling alley to sleep and took showers at a truck stop. [19:11] DaemonFC It was just long enough to find an apartment. [19:11] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: I didn't know your parents parted so early [19:11] matey It was just long enough to find an apartment. <- there you go, thats almost practical [19:11] schestowitz-TR so you had a tough up bringing [19:11] schestowitz-TR with abusive'dad' [19:11] schestowitz-TR hope your bother was off the hook [19:11] DaemonFC Well, Brian was way worse than my dad. [19:12] DaemonFC And mom was terrified he'd beat up my brother, who is 9 years younger. [19:12] DaemonFC So she sent him to live with Grandma. [19:12] matey hope your bother was off the hook <- abusive parents often play one sibling against the other by treating one like gold and one like shit [19:12] schestowitz-TR matey: I don't joke about the poverty [19:12] schestowitz-TR but about the state of the USA [19:12] DaemonFC She enrolled him in school in Marion. [19:12] schestowitz-TR so much capital [19:12] schestowitz-TR and so much poverty [19:12] matey its actually a side effect of splitting and triangulation, its usually not even conscious [19:12] schestowitz-TR tent cities and people living in streets, cars, anything... [19:12] schestowitz-TR while many homes remain vacant [19:12] schestowitz-TR just to keep the "house market" "healthy" (expensive) [19:13] DaemonFC My dad treats us both like shit. He rushed to the HR office to drop health insurance on my brother as soon as he legally could even though it wasn't costing him anything. [19:13] DaemonFC Just to create a burden on my mom, years later, as revenge. [19:13] DaemonFC He was trying to drop dental insurance on me, so I had to rush and get my wisdom teeth removed quickly, hours before my 18th birthday. [19:13] psydruid > one of the FUD patterns against RMS is that he puts off young generation [19:13] psydruid > with jokes and all [19:13] psydruid > I don't quite see that [19:13] psydruid I don't see it either, all my nieces and my nephew share the same sarcastic humour we do. If I see one thing, it's that they continue the same attitudes. The world has been changed for them, so they need to deal with the new reality imposed upon them. [19:14] matey My dad treats us both like shit <- usually the "favourite" one gets treated like shit too. but sometimes a lot is made of favouritism (the favouritism is bullshit, but it still hurts both) [19:14] DaemonFC I have not had dental insurance since April 10th 2002. [19:14] matey one develops an ego problem (quite often) and the other simply suffers more for it [19:14] schestowitz-TR psydruid: RMS has some decent jokes [19:14] schestowitz-TR sometimes he even tells them right [19:14] DaemonFC It's just too expensive to justify it. [19:14] schestowitz-TR when I met him he made up a new one about "mother orc, and orchid" (kid) [19:14] schestowitz-TR which was later added to his site. stallman.org [19:15] DaemonFC Mandy gets his subsidized by employer. I'd have to buy a private plan. [19:15] schestowitz-TR but the culture changes [19:15] matey "mother orc, and orchid" <- good lord thats a dreadful pun [19:15] DaemonFC $40 a month is not worth it, then there's deductibles and spending limits, so you're still on the hook for half the costs anyway when you go to the dentist and it's something major. [19:15] schestowitz-TR you cannot even mention the word "virgin" now [19:15] schestowitz-TR unless it is a corporation [19:15] matey to be fair thats the best kind. [19:15] DaemonFC Extra Virgin Olive Oil [19:15] matey the best puns are the ones that make people hold their nose and groan (or run away screaming) [19:15] schestowitz-TR matey: he likes to play with words [19:16] matey of course [19:16] schestowitz-TR he does it in spanish and french too [19:16] schestowitz-TR but I don't understand those [19:16] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [19:16] schestowitz-TR today I came up with rePOO [19:16] matey /me has invented a couple words in languages hes not fluent in yet [19:16] schestowitz-TR by accident [19:16] schestowitz-TR SHIThub rePOO [19:16] matey repoo works [19:16] schestowitz-TR how many rePOOS ya' got? [19:16] schestowitz-TR "loots of very small repoos" [19:17] DaemonFC I do like the performance of GNOME 42. [19:17] matey the way you test out a word in a langauge you dont know well is by trying it on someone who is fluent [19:17] schestowitz-TR (crap developers) [19:17] DaemonFC I can't believe just how slow GNOME 3.38 "felt". [19:17] DaemonFC On a fast laptop, even! [19:17] matey its like toggling machine code into a cpu [19:17] matey you may not know what youre doing, but youll find out soon enough [19:17] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: try kde neon [19:18] schestowitz-TR new build this past week [19:18] schestowitz-TR 2-3 days ago [19:18] schestowitz-TR I did full system update 1.5 days ago [19:18] schestowitz-TR it installs the updates during reboot [19:18] schestowitz-TR when the DE is not in vitro [19:19] DaemonFC Yes, I have KDE on Fedora on my Yoga 900 ISK2. [19:19] DaemonFC It works well. [19:19] schestowitz-TR it tuns ok on 4gb of ram and 2 cores [19:19] schestowitz-TR magnetic disk [19:19] DaemonFC Both seem to work fine lately. [19:19] schestowitz-TR good [19:19] schestowitz-TR at thew shop here they ship with vista 10 [19:19] schestowitz-TR they did not get the 'memo' [19:19] schestowitz-TR even the shops won't ship Shitta11 [19:20] DaemonFC Comcrap says I can buy a "low cost computer" with the Internet Essentials program. [19:20] matey /me imagines its like a low cost phone [19:20] DaemonFC A $150 laptop with 64 GB eMMC Windows "11". Woohoo! Fun times. [19:20] matey loaded with shitware [19:20] schestowitz-TR so you wipe it [19:20] schestowitz-TR if you can [19:20] schestowitz-TR probably can do [19:21] matey its probably a rental, like the modem [19:21] schestowitz-TR 64gb for a main PC is low though [19:21] DaemonFC I wonder if mjg59_ knows if I can even wipe Windows 11 off that model and turn it into something decent. [19:21] schestowitz-TR you can quickly fill that up with music [19:21] schestowitz-TR my new one is 1tb [19:21] DaemonFC I mean, the computer does belong to you, but his buddies have jammed up the process of salvaging the computer from Windows with a lot of steps and sometimes extra code to prevent it entirely. [19:22] matey of course [19:22] DaemonFC For $150 I'd probably buy it if only to run that new Crunchbang thing. [19:22] schestowitz-TR sometimes I think one could make a business like, [19:22] schestowitz-TR buy in bulk shitware machines [19:22] DaemonFC The whole system only uses like 300 MB of RAM at boot. [19:22] schestowitz-TR replace with decent kde distro [19:22] schestowitz-TR resell [19:22] schestowitz-TR but then not sure if there are legal issues [19:22] schestowitz-TR I'm sure they bought some laws [19:22] schestowitz-TR one way or another [19:22] DaemonFC https://www.debugpoint.com/2022/04/crunchbang-linux-review/ [19:22] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.debugpoint.com/2022/04/crunchbang-linux-review/ ) [19:22] DaemonFC Crunchbang is back. [19:22] schestowitz-TR reselling of machines [19:22] matey decent kde distro <- a contradiction [19:22] schestowitz-TR warranty is one aspect [19:23] schestowitz-TR matey: i knew it would trigger ya' [19:23] matey /me dubs it systemk [19:23] schestowitz-TR kde is excellent... for me [19:23] schestowitz-TR i use 3 kde laptops atm [19:23] DaemonFC So while Windows 11 would be absolutely miserable on the Windows 11 $150 laptop undoubtedly stuffed with spyware meant for poor people who have Internet Essentials, I don't know if you can install that. [19:23] matey "works for me" is from the windows world [19:23] schestowitz-TR matey: but wait [19:23] schestowitz-TR i would put it like this [19:24] schestowitz-TR you MUST have trted several OSes [19:24] schestowitz-TR before saying that [19:24] schestowitz-TR "works for me" [19:24] matey its hard for me to have strong feelings about kde when i havent used it in years [19:24] schestowitz-TR in my case, I have 4 DEs running [19:24] schestowitz-TR and over the years I used more than a dozen [19:24] matey but i dont need to have strong feelings about it to know its more of a burden to free software than a help [19:24] schestowitz-TR with Windows, they only compare VERSIONS [19:24] schestowitz-TR or compare that to DOS [19:24] matey or that the developers dont care [19:25] DaemonFC That would be a decent salvage job though. Internet Essentials gives me a $160 discount vs. buying it from Dell. If I could preload a GNU/Linux distro, I could probably flip it on eBay and get more than I bought it from Comcast for. [19:25] matey basically id like to focus on software that helps the movement at this point [19:25] matey since theres SO MUCH that doesnt [19:25] schestowitz-TR sso shill valce [19:25] schestowitz-TR the valve movement [19:25] schestowitz-TR ask bryant for info [19:25] schestowitz-TR formerly 'the linux gamer' [19:25] schestowitz-TR now full time drm [19:26] schestowitz-TR I'm ok with some steam [19:26] schestowitz-TR not for me [19:26] schestowitz-TR but he devotes his whole time to shilling it [19:26] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:26] schestowitz-TR and i'm quite sure they pay him to do it [19:26] schestowitz-TR even windows videos!! [19:26] matey probably [19:26] schestowitz-TR the open source movement! [19:26] matey ugh [19:26] schestowitz-TR johns responded [19:26] schestowitz-TR you said [19:26] schestowitz-TR in boston [19:26] schestowitz-TR the home of the open source movement [19:26] schestowitz-TR btw [19:27] schestowitz-TR johns and osi conspired against rms, or maybe fsfe [19:27] schestowitz-TR johns should know better [19:27] schestowitz-TR oh, wait [19:27] schestowitz-TR maybe that's another story [19:27] DaemonFC Dell considers it a laptop for education, and actually says "Lesson Learned" on their website. Yes, if you get a Windows computer with 4 GB RAM and 64 GB of storage, there's a lesson to be learned there. [19:27] matey johns and osi conspired against rms, or maybe fsfe <- this is what i was told by insiders [19:27] schestowitz-TR johns is not phipps (osi) and fsfe [19:27] psydruid the open sores movement will be transformative [19:27] matey people inside the fsf [19:27] schestowitz-TR does osi release ANY code? [19:28] psydruid open pores will be turned into open sores [19:28] schestowitz-TR I know they use some helios thing for voting [19:28] schestowitz-TR but afaik they made no fixes or improvements to it [19:28] *matey has quit (connection closed) [19:28] schestowitz-TR osi is not coders [19:28] schestowitz-TR it's more like the "use the source, luke" crowd [19:28] schestowitz-TR eating popcorn and picking money from BOTH Microosft AND GitHub [19:28] schestowitz-TR both hands [19:29] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/microsoft-osi-and-redmonk/ [19:29] schestowitz popcorn [19:29] TR Bot Microsoft: Bribing With Both Hands | Techrights [19:29] schestowitz with CHEESE on it [19:29] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:29] psydruid it's the NPC crowd [19:29] schestowitz haha, yes [19:29] DaemonFC GNOME now supports the UEFI power and performance modes. [19:29] schestowitz "go open source!" [19:29] schestowitz "cancel RMS" [19:29] DaemonFC So I can set my laptop to prefer maximum battery life or maximum performance, like you can on Windows. [19:30] schestowitz kde has this too [19:30] schestowitz i remember the kde3 energy savings panel [19:30] schestowitz with the logos of energy modes [19:30] DaemonFC schestowitz, Mandy asked how many people are running for Governor. [19:30] schestowitz those were very simplistic [19:30] DaemonFC I said "About a dozen at this point. The primary voting doesn't even start for a month.". [19:31] schestowitz we have voting herer soon [19:31] DaemonFC He says, "Then how come I only see Pritzker ads everywhere on YouTube?". [19:31] schestowitz localelection [19:31] DaemonFC I said, "He's a hotel billionaire.". [19:31] schestowitz so we gotr a ton of spam in the post [19:31] DaemonFC He says, "None of the others are advertising on YouTube?". [19:31] DaemonFC I said, "Pritzker is a hotel billionaire and they aren't.". [19:31] DaemonFC He asked, "So who are you going to vote for?". [19:31] schestowitz some people vote for "who they know" [19:32] schestowitz sadly, who they "know" is [19:32] schestowitz the one media mentioned [19:32] schestowitz aht eone ads mentiuon [19:32] DaemonFC I said, "Oh probably that guy that was on the Board of Directors for Metra.". [19:32] schestowitz and since media and ads become more of the same [19:32] schestowitz that just means the vote can be bought more or less [19:32] DaemonFC Not necessarily. [19:32] DaemonFC He spent a lot of money propping up the "Progressive Income Tax" amendment. [19:32] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@zqx6uwig3c8cc.irc) has joined #techrights [19:32] schestowitz here we had some JW-like people [19:32] DaemonFC And it failed. [19:32] schestowitz knocking on the door [19:32] schestowitz to promote libdems [19:32] schestowitz during corona [19:33] schestowitz knocking on your door [19:33] DaemonFC There were ads everywhere telling people that most people would get lower taxes, and the measure still failed. [19:33] DaemonFC Illinois Policy Institute was the main opposition and ran ads showing what happened when other states did a progressive tax and sold it as a "tax cut for most people". [19:34] DaemonFC Like Connecticut, where all rates went up higher than the former flat tax was, and some brackets are even more than double what the flat tax was. [19:35] DaemonFC schestowitz, Nothing in the amendment said what the rates would be if it passed. [19:35] DaemonFC The law that would have gone into effect made the lowest bracket 4.85% up to $10,000 of income. The flat tax rate on everyone right now is 4.95%. [19:36] DaemonFC So it would have saved us less than $20 over the entire year. [19:36] DaemonFC But it was something, so they could legally say "Most people see the same or lower taxes." [19:37] DaemonFC I still voted yes on it even though I don't agree with the idea. [19:37] DaemonFC People like Mark and Maricel should pay higher tax rates. [19:37] DaemonFC Because if they don't, then the state will raise some other taxes instead, and I do pay those taxes. [19:38] DaemonFC If Mark and Maricel make almost 10 times what we do and can't figure out how not to be in debt and how to pay the state tax department, that's their fault. [19:40] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:44] TR News EndeavourOS Apollo Lands with Worm WM, Improved Installation Experience, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163515 [19:44] TR Bot EndeavourOS Apollo Lands with Worm WM, Improved Installation Experience, and More | Tux Machines [19:45] TR News 37 open-source free EPUB e-book viewers and readers for Windows, Linux, macOS, and Mobile. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163516 [19:45] TR Bot 37 open-source free EPUB e-book viewers and readers for Windows, Linux, macOS, and Mobile. | Tux Machines [19:48] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@uq8vqszfv73ew.irc) has joined #techrights [19:49] DaemonFC Well, there's my answer to whether you can easily add a supercharger to the 3800 in the Buick and make it perform more like the Grand Prix GTP. [19:49] DaemonFC The answer is, you _can_ modify it to be supercharged, but you really won't want to after you find out the cost. [19:50] DaemonFC The kit alone is $1,700 and if you need a mechanic to do it you can probably add over $1,000 in labor too. [19:51] DaemonFC Hmm, book says 4-5 hours. [19:51] DaemonFC My mechanic charges $150 per labor hour. [19:51] DaemonFC So $600-750 in labor + a $1,700 kit. [19:51] DaemonFC But I could turn it into a muscle car that looks like a late model Buick. [19:52] TR News "OpenDocMan is released under the open-source GPL license." https://medevel.com/opendocman/ [19:52] Alternative link CloudFlare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/opendocman/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/opendocman/ [19:52] TR Bot OpenDocMan is an open-Source Document Management System (DMS) for enterprise [19:52] DaemonFC Another downside is that to keep it from knocking, you have to run it on premium gasoline at that point, like a sports car. [19:52] DaemonFC So add about 50 cents per gallon for gas. [19:54] DaemonFC If I could just bolt on a supercharger and be out the door, I'd probably do it. [19:54] *psydruid starts the cure open sores movement [19:54] DaemonFC But this involves a partial engine rebuild, some new sensors, and new fuel injection setup. [19:54] DaemonFC :( [19:54] DaemonFC Sad. [19:55] DaemonFC Man, if they put a 350 horsepower engine in a Buick from the factory....Well, actually, they do now. [19:55] DaemonFC So you could do this even as a backport to a 3800 V6, but it's going to cost you a third of what you paid for the car. [19:55] TR News How I set up my data and backup strategy as a Linux user Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163517 [19:55] TR Bot How I set up my data and backup strategy as a Linux user | Tux Machines [19:56] DaemonFC Plus, they have to reflash the PCM. [19:56] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3nPiBai66M [19:56] TR Bot https://y.com.sb/watch?v=n3nPiBai66M [19:56] DaemonFC Because the engine is going to need different shifting points from the transmission to deal with the fact that it's completely overpowered for the car now. [19:56] TR Bot y.com.sb | The Cure - Just Like Heaven - Invidious [19:57] schestowitz-TR hmm... those vevo videos and covert drm ones invidious struggles with [19:57] schestowitz-TR also all the official football ones [19:58] schestowitz-TR or maybe some instances cope [19:58] schestowitz-TR some cannot [19:58] schestowitz https://y.com.sb/watch?v=yUHzXd3Vb_0 [19:58] TR Bot T H E. C U R E Best Songs Playlist - Greatest Hits Full Album 2021 Of T H E. C U R E - Invidious [19:58] DaemonFC schestowitz, I suppose I'll just leave it at 200 Horsepower. [19:59] DaemonFC People who get cars with over 300 HP start racking up lots of speeding tickets. [19:59] bnchs schestowitz, downloading works [19:59] DaemonFC Because they're just so fun to drive that you don't even notice you're going that fast. [19:59] TR News xkcd: Frankenstein Captcha https://xkcd.com/2604/ Source: xkcd [19:59] TR Bot Frankenstein Captcha [19:59] Alternative link CloudFlare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2604/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://xkcd.com/2604/ [19:59] DaemonFC It also puts a lot of stress on the engine and makes it less reliable. [19:59] DaemonFC Who needs that? [19:59] DaemonFC And gas is already plenty expensive. ● Apr 08 [20:00] TR News How about leveraging EXISTING laws to detain, prosecute and arrest Microsoft managers? https://www.project-disco.org/competition/040822-the-prohibiting-anticompetitive-mergers-act-a-radical-and-duplicative-bill/ [20:00] Alternative link CloudFlare: project-disco.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.project-disco.org/competition/040822-the-prohibiting-anticompetitive-mergers-act-a-radical-and-duplicative-bill/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.project-disco.org/competition/040822-the-prohibiting-anticompetitive-mergers-act-a-radical-and-duplicative-bill/ [20:00] TR Bot The Prohibiting Anticompetitive Mergers Act - A Radical and Duplicative Bill - Disruptive Competition Project [20:01] schestowitz-TR bnchs: enjoy [20:01] schestowitz-TR don't put that on the clown [20:01] schestowitz-TR apple scans hashes for copyrioght hodlers [20:01] schestowitz-TR oh wait [20:01] schestowitz-TR sorry [20:02] schestowitz-TR we're still in 2022 [20:02] schestowitz-TR wait til 2023 [20:02] schestowitz-TR then it won't be "for the children" [20:02] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The lady who helped me get a technician out from Comcast also lives in Illinois. [20:02] schestowitz-TR ILL-hanoi [20:02] DaemonFC She asked if I was interested in a low cost computer. I gave her a miniature Stallman-like speech. [20:03] schestowitz-TR "freedom zero is the.." [20:04] DaemonFC I said, "No, and mostly because it comes with Windows and I don't know if I could remove it easily and replace it with GNU/Linux, since some manufacturers prevent that now. I can't really use Windows because it would be too slow on a modest PC like that and because Windows is spyware that I really don't want to have in my house, and the less you pay for a Windows license, the less of the spyware they allow you to turn off.". [20:04] schestowitz wow, they STILL perform! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cure [20:04] TR Bot The Cure - Wikipedia [20:05] DaemonFC schestowitz, Most of the telemetry can be disabled, but only in the "Enterprise" edition and only on the Long Term Stable Channel. [20:05] DaemonFC So, like, if you run any other version you're basically stuck with all of the spyware and the really weird bugs that businesses will pay more to avoid. [20:06] DaemonFC And they also don't turn on advertising or install crapware, or even the Windows Store at all, in the LTSC. [20:06] DaemonFC So when you use a cheaper license, you pay with the ads, the spyware, and the bugs, which it will self-report to Microsoft so they can fix them before they go out to their important clients. [20:07] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: they should pass laws to ban thos [20:07] schestowitz-TR like they do with phone locking [20:07] DaemonFC And you have no control over what's in the reports. Even if it is just a bug report, when something crashes, it could be your web browser, and the crash dump could have sensitive or embarrassing information in it, even if you are not using Edge, which already reports EVERYTHING you do on the Web. [20:07] schestowitz-TR I forget the term they use for that all the time... as I don't buy these [20:07] schestowitz-TR not locking [20:08] schestowitz-TR network something [20:08] schestowitz-TR it should be banned [20:08] schestowitz-TR they also started standardising the charging adapters and ports [20:08] schestowitz-TR with penalties for not complying IIRC [20:08] schestowitz-TR Apple is notorious for this [20:08] DaemonFC So Windows is a RAT. It's a police informant, so a "rat" in the slang sense, but also a RAT in the acronym for malware. It is a Remote Access Trojan. [20:08] schestowitz-TR and their adapters aren't even of decent quality [20:09] schestowitz-TR so they get a monopoly on spares [20:09] DaemonFC It allows Microsoft to get in and do whatever they want, and it reports things back to them to be analyzed. [20:09] schestowitz-TR yes, I was gonna say RAT last week [20:09] schestowitz-TR but worried some would think I call Microsoft a "rot" [20:09] schestowitz-TR "rat" [20:09] schestowitz-TR it's also slant [20:09] schestowitz-TR *slang [20:09] schestowitz-TR 3 meanings [20:09] schestowitz-TR Microsoft is a RAT [20:09] DaemonFC Richard Stallman points out that Android is "less bad" than Apple in the sense that you can at least use packages, or F-Droid. [20:09] schestowitz-TR it's a rat (slang) [20:10] schestowitz-TR and some of them are acting like literal rats [20:10] DaemonFC But he still mentions Google has a universal backdoor in the Play Store and can change the firmware however it wants. [20:10] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: among other things [20:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [20:10] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: that downplays it [20:10] schestowitz-TR the network has a back door [20:10] schestowitz-TR the state [20:10] schestowitz-TR some "apps" do [20:10] schestowitz-TR the store [20:11] schestowitz-TR and gulag auto-updates [20:11] schestowitz-TR "OTA" [20:11] schestowitz-TR it's virtually impossible to secure any "modern" 'smart' phone [20:11] schestowitz-TR librem is an attempt at that [20:11] schestowitz-TR and now they upsell 'ethical' carriers [20:11] schestowitz-TR that don't collect data, they say [20:11] schestowitz-TR but they use towers not maintained and controlled by them [20:12] schestowitz-TR and if you have a phone # the state will know what you are up to regardless [20:12] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/proposed-gas-pump-signage-requirement-for-illinois-drawing-criticism/ < MinceR pointed out in Hungary how thick the power bills are explaining how much the state propped up the electric company to "save" you on the electric. [20:12] TR Bot Proposed gas pump signage requirement for Illinois drawing criticism | WGN-TV [20:13] DaemonFC Now Illinois wants to make gas stations put up signage that says the Democrats voted to suspend an automatic gas tax hike for 6 months. [20:13] TR News GNU/Linux for 'fixing' malware https://www.maketecheasier.com/fix-windows-mbr-from-ubuntu/ [20:13] TR Bot How to Fix Windows MBR from Ubuntu - Make Tech Easier [20:13] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: we are like you, in the protesting sense [20:13] DaemonFC They didn't save you 6 cents per gallon. They just postponed their own automatic tax hike. [20:13] schestowitz-TR I fought for hours over the phone with them [20:13] schestowitz-TR they even compensated me at one point [20:13] schestowitz-TR for poor service [20:14] schestowitz-TR but we minimise energy use [20:14] schestowitz-TR I moved back to shavers, dry shave [20:14] DaemonFC The electric company? Well, it has been reliable at least. [20:14] schestowitz-TR and no heating, ever [20:14] DaemonFC I haven't had any power outages in Illinois that went on longer than about 10 minutes. And only about 4-5 outages in the last 6 years. [20:15] schestowitz-TR we used to pay less than 10 per month for gas [20:15] schestowitz-TR now it's a noticeable chunk [20:15] DaemonFC In Indiana, sometimes the power goes down and the outage lasts hours or even a day. [20:15] schestowitz-TR here we have almost nonse [20:15] schestowitz-TR in a decade [20:15] schestowitz-TR depending where you live obv. [20:15] schestowitz-TR *none [20:15] schestowitz-TR the power cuts here are your own fuses going off [20:15] DaemonFC If you live in Indiana, you know to get a UPS for the computer and keep some power banks charged to keep your phone going. [20:16] schestowitz-TR bad appliances and surges [20:16] DaemonFC One time I had to leave my phone charging off my car for a while because didn't have a power bank. [20:16] schestowitz-TR manchester is (still) very high value for money [20:18] schestowitz-TR I reckon the US barely has any cities in top of favoured to live in [20:18] schestowitz-TR unless polled by some American think tank [20:18] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_livable_cities [20:18] TR Bot Most livable cities - Wikipedia [20:19] schestowitz 1Auckland New Zealand [20:19] schestowitz 2Osaka Japan [20:19] schestowitz 3Adelaide Australia [20:19] schestowitz 4Wellington New Zealand [20:19] schestowitz 5Tokyo Japan [20:19] schestowitz 6Perth Australia [20:19] schestowitz 7Zurich Switzerland [20:19] schestowitz 8Geneva Switzerland [20:19] schestowitz 9Melbourne Australia [20:19] schestowitz 10Brisbane Australia [20:19] schestowitz Osaka? [20:19] schestowitz As I expected, US is hardly listed [20:20] psydruid Boston in the top 20 perhaps? [20:20] psydruid or Ann Arbor? [20:20] schestowitz gemini://drewdevault.com/2022/03/24/Netherlands-update.gmi [20:21] schestowitz "Little things no one here even thinks about have left an impression on me, too. I see street cleaners out all of the time, in a little squad where workers use leaf blowers and brooms to sweep trash and dirt from the sidewalks and squares into the streets where sweepers come through to pick it up. The trash and recycling bins are regularly collected, and when one of them in my neighborhood broke, it was replaced within days. There are some areas [20:21] schestowitz where trash does tend to accumulate, though, such as near benches in parks." [20:22] schestowitz "The infamous Dutch bureaucracy is not as bad as people made it out to be. Going through the immigration process was pretty stressful as any process which could end with being kicked out of the country might be but it was actually fairly straightforward for the kind of visa I wanted to get. Public servants here are more helpful and flexible than their reputation suggests." [20:22] schestowitz (Ariadne is moving there) [20:22] schestowitz "I could go on experiences outside of Amsterdam and throughout the rest of Europe, the vibes of the FOSS community and other communities Ive met, serendipitously meeting people I knew in America who also moved to Europe, and so on but I think Ill stop here for this post. Every time Ive paused to reflect on my relocation abroad, Ive come away smiling. " [20:24] TR News University of Tokyo Japanese Banana Peeling https://www.futuretimeline.net/blog/2022/03/26-robot-peels-banana.htm [20:24] TR Bot Robot peels banana with deep learning [20:25] TR News The Apollo release has landed EndeavourOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163515#comment-33307 [20:25] TR Bot EndeavourOS Apollo Lands with Worm WM, Improved Installation Experience, and More | Tux Machines [20:26] TR News "We chat about Wyze's recent real bad, no-good security news, why Plex Discover has potential but hasn't impressed us yet, and a brief tour of Alex's home network setup." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148162/unwyze-choices-self-hosted-68/ [20:26] Alternative link CloudFlare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148162/unwyze-choices-self-hosted-68/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148162/unwyze-choices-self-hosted-68/ [20:26] TR Bot Unwyze Choices | Self-Hosted 68 | Jupiter Broadcasting [20:27] DaemonFC schestowitz, I think English sounds more deliberately paced than Tagalog or many other languages in that part of the world. [20:27] DaemonFC Like, they barely take any time to sound out the words. [20:27] schestowitz psydruid: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-SEV-SNP-TIP-Linux-5.19 [20:27] Alternative link CloudFlare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-SEV-SNP-TIP-Linux-5.19 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-SEV-SNP-TIP-Linux-5.19 [20:27] TR Bot SEV-SNP Appears Ready For Upstreaming In Linux 5.19 - Phoronix [20:27] schestowitz too many cpus [20:27] schestowitz he doesn't know what to do with em anymo'... [20:27] psydruid run an international cryptocurrency mafia [20:28] DaemonFC Whenever Mandy has me repeat something he laughs because he says he thinks Tagalog spoken by someone with a "Midwestern US" English accent is funny. [20:28] TR News mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library: Add ATS-M pci-ids https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=48620101414449c3545d4d998dc0606eb04e1467 Source: cgit [20:28] TR Bot mesa/mesa - The Mesa 3D Graphics Library (mirrored from https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa) [20:28] DaemonFC I noticed that on Doctor Who, btw. I'm like "How are there that many accents in the UK? It's not that big.". [20:29] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: it's mised up [20:29] schestowitz-TR big cities have a mixture [20:29] schestowitz-TR and more "outsiders" too [20:30] schestowitz-TR accents are not only regional [20:30] schestowitz-TR but class statements [20:30] schestowitz-TR like "black dialect" in USAS [20:30] schestowitz-TR *USA [20:30] schestowitz-TR I can do all sorts of accidentgs [20:30] schestowitz-TR *accents too [20:30] schestowitz-TR by accident [20:30] DaemonFC The UK land area, total, is like about Illinois and Indiana combined. [20:30] schestowitz-TR most here can too [20:30] schestowitz-TR they can do american access as a joke [20:31] DaemonFC It's hard to believe it was ever an empire with what's left of it. [20:31] schestowitz-TR but wait [20:31] schestowitz-TR UK is still dominant [20:31] DaemonFC People from Indiana and Illinois mostly sound the same. [20:31] schestowitz-TR but the colonies are not directly dependent on the queen now [20:31] DaemonFC They're not colonies anymore. [20:32] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: siren) [20:32] DaemonFC And the queen is ceremonial and technically a separate "sovereign" in each. [20:32] schestowitz-TR canada, nz, australia, even places like singapore have a chunk dependent, never mind the many small islands like gibraltar, Falklands... [20:32] DaemonFC And the legal systems no longer allow appeals to the UK court system. [20:32] DaemonFC So pretty much the legacy ties are severed. [20:32] schestowitz-TR yes, but the culture got copied [20:32] schestowitz-TR why do you think mandy's country is christian? [20:33] DaemonFC They're not exactly Christian. [20:33] schestowitz-TR the colonialism is less direct [20:33] schestowitz-TR lots of french influence in western africa too [20:33] DaemonFC I mean, the biggest chunk are Catholics, which are not well accepted even in much of the US to this day. [20:33] schestowitz-TR bnchs probably can speak french [20:33] DaemonFC I mean, they're more tolerated where I'm from than accepted. [20:33] DaemonFC And that's Christianity, sure. [20:33] DaemonFC But they're not all Catholics. [20:34] DaemonFC They have some home grown crazy like Iglesia that goes back further than major outside interference. [20:34] DaemonFC Certainly from us. [20:35] DaemonFC Iglesia is in the United States now and it tries to recruit white people to claim it's not just some thing from the Philippines and only foreigners go there. If you're white and you go inside one of their churches, you're a curiosity. [20:35] TR News Pure spam, garbage, webspam with googlebombing/SEO (like OS name-dropping) https://betanews.com/2022/04/08/sonnet-allegro-pro-usbc-echo-usb3c-8pm-e/ betanews is like that: http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/news-as-spam/ [20:35] Alternative link CloudFlare: betanews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://betanews.com/2022/04/08/sonnet-allegro-pro-usbc-echo-usb3c-8pm-e/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://betanews.com/2022/04/08/sonnet-allegro-pro-usbc-echo-usb3c-8pm-e/ [20:35] TR Bot Sonnet launches Allegro Pro USB-C 8-Port PCIe card for Mac, Windows, and Linux [20:35] TR Bot The Different Types of Spammy Articles and Reviews Which Have Killed Professional Journalism (Nowadays Mostly SPAM) | Techrights [20:35] DaemonFC You instantly have hundreds of people paying attention, you know. [20:35] DaemonFC It's a cult. [20:35] DaemonFC Most of the people in the cult are nice enough, but it's a cult. [20:36] DaemonFC They specifically reject many of the fundamental core principles of Christianity, both Catholic and Protestant. [20:36] DaemonFC They arrange to have people murdered. [20:36] TR News So-called 'news' sites have warped into active participants in the elaborate scam/spam industry, usually without any disclosure at all [20:37] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Telling an immigration agent in the US that if you are deported, you may be killed by Iglesia in the Philippines is sufficient grounds for asylum. [20:37] DaemonFC Cases get approved on that, you know. [20:37] schestowitz-TR "julio will kill me..' [20:37] DaemonFC It's considered an extremist group. [20:37] DaemonFC Although they operate openly here. [20:38] DaemonFC It's like we can't stop you, but we're watching you. [20:38] DaemonFC Like those Mosques with the "Death to America" people. [20:38] DaemonFC You know, there's certainly some in the US. The FBI watches them. [20:38] TR News Full Circle Magazine: Full Circle Weekly News #256 https://fullcirclemagazine.org/podcast/full-circle-weekly-news-256/ [20:38] TR Bot Full Circle Weekly News #256 | Full Circle Magazine [20:39] DaemonFC Well, Stallman told us his view of the state, schestowitz-TR [20:39] DaemonFC And I think he's very very very wrong about it. [20:40] TR News "Ever wanted to catalog organize your collections of movies, music, apps, images, and books, then you didn't find the right software to do so, here is a perfect one: Data Crow." https://medevel.com/data-crow-2/ https://www.fosshub.com/Data-Crow.html [20:40] Alternative link CloudFlare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/data-crow-2/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/data-crow-2/ [20:40] Alternative link CloudFlare: fosshub.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fosshub.com/Data-Crow.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.fosshub.com/Data-Crow.html [20:40] TR Bot Data Crow is a free media cataloger and media organizer. [20:40] TR Bot Download Data Crow latest release [20:40] DaemonFC He said.... "To do its job the state must be very powerful, but to keep it from abusing that power, you have to have a democracy, and a democracy cannot function with mass surveillance." [20:40] DaemonFC But he has the order wrong. [20:40] DaemonFC To prevent a surveillance state and retain a democracy, you need to prevent the state from gathering so much power in the first place, or else you lose. Probably forever. [20:41] DaemonFC The state only has a few legitimate jobs, and even with basically unchecked power, it has no intent to perform any of those right now, and it's getting worse. [20:42] TR News Maui Shell Alpha Linux OS for phones and desktops http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163342#comment-33308 [20:42] TR Bot MAUI Shell First Alpha Release is here with Significant Finished Work | Tux Machines [20:42] DaemonFC The job of the state is to protect the common welfare of its citizens, such as by preventing labor exploitation, preventing environmental destruction, and maintaining good education and infrastructure systems, enforcing the rule of civil and criminal law, and a few other things along those lines. [20:44] DaemonFC But what we have in America are a few rich bastards with very nearly all of the money, and self-serving ignorant entitled pieces of shit in Congress, which are their pets, who are throwing around money that they have misappropriated from the lower classes, to the rich (including themselves), while at the same time we live under a total surveillance state with fewer and fewer civil rights, worsening environmental conditions, bad infrastructure, [20:44] DaemonFC and high schools that do worse at educating children in 12 years than what a 7th grade educational level was in the 1990s. [20:44] DaemonFC The very concept of public service is completely gone. [20:45] DaemonFC The public can vote, but the system is so bad that even millions and millions of voters have little or no influence on public policy since about 1998. [20:45] DaemonFC A state like this is too dangerous to have power like Stallman says a state should have. [20:45] bnchs <schestowitz-TR> bnchs probably can speak french [20:46] bnchs because we speak it as a somewhat-primary language [20:46] bnchs maybe secondary [20:46] DaemonFC The United States is pretty much falling apart, and a big problem is ironically the tech industry. [20:47] DaemonFC The government doesn't even annoy the rich anymore. [20:48] DaemonFC It doesn't make them pay a fair amount of tax. When it spends, it all goes to them somehow. Comcast doing the $10 a month Internet is getting anotehr $30 a month from the federal government. [20:48] DaemonFC So they're perfectly happy to participate in this program. [20:49] DaemonFC The government didn't do what it ought to have done, which is to say "You have service area monopolies. If you want to keep them, you will provide $9.95 internet to people at these income levels or else we will break you up into competing factions.". [20:49] psydruid very liberal.chat network where you get banned from channels for "wrongspeak" [20:49] DaemonFC Libera Chat has banned me a few times. [20:50] *psydruid parle franais assez couramment [20:50] psydruid yes, it's a misnomer [20:50] DaemonFC I keep coming back because the bans are basically impossible to enforce. [20:51] DaemonFC When there's a VPN with over 10,000 servers. [20:51] DaemonFC Plus there's Matrix bridge. [20:51] DaemonFC They can't stop you short of shutting off the entire bridge. [20:52] DaemonFC Every time they ban a burner account you only use for IRC, make another account. [20:52] DaemonFC Matrix.org got tired of banning me and stopped doing it. [20:52] bnchs DaemonFC, geez i wonder why [20:52] DaemonFC I can pretty much do whatever I want now. [20:53] DaemonFC The moderators just overlook it. [20:53] psydruid all these SJW-infested networks really annoy me [20:55] schestowitz-TR bnchs: sop you are fluent at 3 times more langs than an average american [20:56] DaemonFC I just don't learn Spanish because if they want to speak to me, they can speak English. [20:57] DaemonFC It's bad enough half of the Mexicans here are illegal and on welfare and causing hit and run accidents. [20:57] DaemonFC The least they can do while they're breaking our laws is speak my language. [20:57] DaemonFC This attitude is not at all uncommon among the French. [20:58] DaemonFC They're sick and tired of being mugged at knifepoint by foreign invaders who won't even learn French. [20:58] DaemonFC Apparently what makes Europe legitimate in their own minds is they stole it longer ago than they stole the former colonies here. [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 149.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 370.11 [20:59] DaemonFC They're still sore that we threw their stinking tea into our American harbor and brewed some beer. [20:59] DaemonFC Because we don't like tea. We like coffee! And we don't like wine! We like beer! ● Apr 08 [21:00] DaemonFC If anything, I think by drink preferences we're closer to Germans than the British at this point. [21:00] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@36bzb8gsaeuq4.irc) has joined #techrights [21:01] DaemonFC But I mean, lots of things change over the years. [21:01] DaemonFC The US has gotten wave after wave of immigrants. [21:01] DaemonFC The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 was an unmitigated disaster. [21:02] DaemonFC Instead of Diverity Visa Lotteries where we just scoop up random people who didn't do anything in their own country except crime and taking up space, we should get rid of that and go easier on marriage green cards and people who are staying out of trouble and working. [21:03] DaemonFC This attitude is pretty common in Canada. They don't even have as permissive an immigration system as we do. [21:03] DaemonFC Theirs is already harsher than the one Trump wanted. [21:03] schestowitz-TR now we ar etotallyh off topic [21:03] DaemonFC And Canada's atrocities and genocides and climate denialism and Nazi movements and stuff are all over the news lately. [21:04] DaemonFC So like, they project. The French, the British, the Canadians. All of the nasty shit they did or do, they project on us. [21:04] DaemonFC The French and British have nuclear weapons. You never hear about it. [21:05] DaemonFC None of them have rejected nuclear weapons and dismantled them. They have about the same size of stockpile as they did in 1990 while the US has destroyed over 90% of its own. [21:05] DaemonFC And the UK is about to pass a "crime bill" that makes the most racist and horrible thing the federal government in the US has done in the last 50 years look mild. [21:06] DaemonFC In many ways, they're ahead of us because they were decaying and becoming failed states faster. [21:06] bnchs off-topic? [21:06] DaemonFC If you dug up Margaret Thatcher today, she'd be in Labour. [21:07] DaemonFC That's how far right they've gone. Back in her day, the left was still calling itself a Socialist Workers movement. [21:07] DaemonFC I mean holy shit. [21:08] TR News Taking GNU/Linux For Granted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UOjLhfvW8w [21:08] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2UOjLhfvW8w [21:08] TR Bot yewtu.be | Are We Taking Linux For Granted? - Invidious [21:08] DaemonFC The Falklands War, which Roy mentioned the other day, was a death rattle, the tail wagging the dog, and clutching at pearls. [21:09] DaemonFC It was the nation state version of a gigantic midlife crisis. [21:09] TR News Introducing the Movin On Up A Little Higher Series - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/introducing-the-movin-on-up-a-little-higher-series/ Source: publicknowledge [21:09] TR Bot Introducing the Movin On Up A Little Higher Series - Public Knowledge [21:09] TR News This Week in GNOME Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163518 [21:09] TR Bot This Week in GNOME | Tux Machines [21:09] MinceR 08 220654 < DaemonFC> If you dug up Margaret Thatcher today, she'd be in Labour. [21:09] MinceR she's pregnant? :> [21:09] DaemonFC You know, people in their 40s realize it's all slipping away from them and then they go and do something dumb like financing a $50,000 motorcycle. [21:10] bnchs >"linux users are spolied" [21:10] bnchs i mean you see newcomers [21:10] DaemonFC I've accepted the fact that I'll die someday. [21:10] bnchs saying "why does adobe not work on linux" [21:10] DaemonFC Many people can't cope with it all at once. [21:10] bnchs as if it's gnu/linux's fault [21:10] DaemonFC I have no need for a midlife crisis because I realized early on that I'd die and so there was no point getting all worked up about it. [21:11] DaemonFC I'm not that special and the universe will continue for billions of years after I'm gone. [21:11] DaemonFC It helps to just figure you're here "for a time" and be done with it. [21:11] psydruid > I just don't learn Spanish because if they want to speak to me, they can speak English. [21:11] psydruid I learned it because I went to Spain quite a few times, but younger people there generally also speak English [21:11] bnchs just looking at the comments [21:12] bnchs "Linux is granted until the boomers die. The next generation of programmers won't touch the Linux kernel because of GPL. I guess this is the biggest problem with GNU/Linux. You can't change it because then you've to ask all developers who introduced changes to the Linux kernel. Companies spent much money to get rid of GPL licensed user space." [21:12] DaemonFC <bnchs> "Linux is granted until the boomers die. The next generation of programmers won't touch the Linux kernel because of GPL. I guess this is the biggest problem with GNU/Linux. You can't change it because then you've to ask all developers who introduced changes to the Linux kernel. Companies spent much money to get rid of GPL licensed user space." [21:12] MinceR fixed question: "why does adobe not work" [21:12] MinceR because they don't have any engineers [21:12] DaemonFC Not that much compared to the Linux kernel. [21:12] bnchs you can't change (the license) because then you've to ask all the developers [21:12] MinceR they shovel some shit together and sell it [21:12] psydruid > saying "why does adobe not work on linux" [21:12] psydruid adobe DOES not work with Linux, because adobe doesn't want to work with Linux and we don't want it to work with Linux [21:12] MinceR they couldn't put a sane pdf renderer together [21:13] bnchs psydruid, adobe is like epic gaymes [21:13] MinceR they couldn't put a sane video player together [21:13] bnchs they port for windows and mac [21:13] DaemonFC There's nothing appropriate to replace the Linux kernel with unless you are only running it on a PC or a phone or something. [21:13] bnchs and avoid gnu/linux [21:13] MinceR they couldn't even figure out how to render vector graphics in a way that is not laughably sluggish [21:13] MinceR they also couldn't figure out a logical UI for a photo editor [21:13] DaemonFC Linux is likely to be around in 100 years in some form or another. [21:13] DaemonFC It just doesn't make financial sense to start over. [21:13] MinceR broadcast as electromagnetic waves before humanity offed itself? [21:13] DaemonFC And since nobody is suing over GPL enforcement anyway, what is the incentive? [21:14] bnchs MinceR, when i used photoshop for the first time [21:14] bnchs there were tons of fucking buttons [21:14] bnchs and tools [21:14] bnchs and NO way to draw even a circle without jumping through more hoops than GIMP [21:14] MinceR not only that [21:14] MinceR but also the filters are randomly scattered around the menu [21:15] MinceR and if you maximize the window in which the photo is, it goes _under_ your tools [21:15] MinceR good luck seeing what you're doing. [21:15] bnchs i remember looking up tutorials for how to draw [21:15] bnchs in photoshop [21:15] TR News Compulab incorporates the NXP i.MX8M-Plus SoC to their SO-DIMM flexible design Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163519 [21:15] TR Bot Compulab incorporates the NXP i.MX8M-Plus SoC to their SO-DIMM flexible design | Tux Machines [21:15] bnchs how to use the brush [21:16] bnchs i liked GIMP because it was easier to use [21:17] schestowitz-TR gimp has an irc network [21:17] schestowitz-TR you get it free [21:17] schestowitz-TR and you get free'support' [21:18] schestowitz-TR adobe gets people addicted [21:18] schestowitz-TR and then charges a lot [21:18] schestowitz-TR no support [21:18] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163520 [21:18] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [21:18] MinceR gimp has far better UI and doesn't lock the user into a shitty OS or a fucked up subscription model [21:19] bnchs yeah thats what i liked GIMP for [21:19] bnchs the UI was much better than photoshop [21:19] bnchs and i used it alot [21:20] bnchs it has scripting aswell [21:23] TR News Breaking Things at Work: The Luddites Were Right About Why You Hate Your Job gemini://beyondneolithic.life/mueller_archive/breaking_things_at_work/index.gmi "Most of the technologies involved in automation had been developed and implemented in other industries years before their incorporation into Ford's production process" [21:24] TR News "sharing is caring, and I care about all of you out there in the smol internet." gemini://november.smol.pub/cursed-tech-thought [21:24] TR News "Web browsers, and the modern web in general, are bloated. [citation needed] A lot of people are trying to get away from that, whether it be with the smol web, a return to Gopher, the invention of Gemini, or what have you." gemini://november.smol.pub/cursed-tech-thought [21:25] psydruid GIMP has always been as good as Adobe Photoshop 5.x [21:25] TR News "Just a little while ago I happened to be glancing at this server's NGINX logs and noticed some obviously malicious requests resulting in 404s. Here is one of them." gemini://gemini.panda-roux.dev/log/entry?52 [21:25] psydruid they just like moving the goalposts with every release [21:25] TR News Audiocasts/Shows: Taking Linux For Granted, Full Circle Magazine, and Self-Hosted 68 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163521 [21:25] TR Bot Audiocasts/Shows: Taking Linux For Granted, Full Circle Magazine, and Self-Hosted 68 | Tux Machines [21:26] schestowitz-TR psydruid: isn't it becoming clown with subscription? to fake beaing cheap? [21:27] DaemonFC Only rich people could afford a car before Ford. [21:27] DaemonFC Any car. [21:28] DaemonFC He'd be appalled at the way they're running the business today. [21:28] schestowitz-TR horses last longer [21:28] schestowitz-TR repairs is bets [21:28] schestowitz-TR *vets [21:28] schestowitz-TR but horses don't carry around the kids [21:28] schestowitz-TR unless you abuse them with carriages and stuff [21:29] schestowitz-TR today, most people seem to drive on their own [21:29] schestowitz-TR here at least [21:29] schestowitz-TR so it's one ton for 70kg person [21:29] schestowitz-TR very wasteful [21:29] DaemonFC What we need is for someone to start making affordable practical cars again, but that's unlikely since the car companies have given up on selling to anyone without a very high income and don't want a secondary car market anyway. [21:29] schestowitz-TR most of the energy is spent on the car just moving itself [21:31] psydruid schestowitz-TR, I haven't touched their stuff in 20 years [21:31] DaemonFC "Production of the 3800 V6 engine officially ended on August 22, 2008 at plant 36. There was a ceremony and speakers who extolled the virtues of the engine. Originally, GM had set this date for January 1, 1999; however, due to the popularity among investors and customers and the reliability of the engine, the date was extended. At the end of production, the LZ4 3500 OHV V6 replaced the naturally aspirated 3800 applications, and the LY7 3.6L [21:31] DaemonFC DOHC V6 replaced the supercharged 3800 applications." [21:32] DaemonFC Overhead cam engines are less reliable. [21:33] DaemonFC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_High_Value_engine [21:33] TR Bot GM High Value engine - Wikipedia [21:33] DaemonFC They replaced it with this. [21:34] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:34] DaemonFC Notice some immediate problems. Like aluminum block heads and Variable Valve Timing. [21:35] DaemonFC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_High_Feature_engine [21:35] TR Bot GM High Feature engine - Wikipedia [21:35] DaemonFC Then this, which has an all aluminum block and twin overhead cams and VVT. [21:35] DaemonFC This stuff isn't reliable, it's not built to last, and you'll have more trouble with it than the price of any amount of fuel it saves you is worth. [21:36] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@8beerw2yvmfwq.irc) has joined #techrights [21:36] DaemonFC Once you overheat an aluminum block or head then you've probably done major damage. [21:37] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [21:37] DaemonFC Cast iron could tolerate it happening more than aluminum and so sometimes with cast iron you just get lucky with a head gasket failure and all you need is a new gasket. It's still expensive because of the labor, but it's much less expensive than buying a new engine because the overheat ruined the whole thing. [21:38] *HMS (~36246ca2@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [21:39] DaemonFC Ford had to go on a marketing campaign when it switched its trucks over to aluminum bodies to save fuel. [21:39] DaemonFC Their aluminum bodies dent easier, they rust faster if you don't repair paint chips and scratches right away. [21:40] DaemonFC I've driven 20 year old cars without any rust on them before. If I buy the Buick, it'll be 14 years old and no rust. [21:40] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@b3rs3wwrk3aiu.irc) has joined #techrights [21:40] DaemonFC If you take it through the car wash, it doesn't rust very quickly. [21:41] DaemonFC I saw Scotty Kilmer on Youtube advertising those waterless car wash formulas that they sell. [21:41] DaemonFC That's okay sometimes if you live in a state where they don't salt the roads and you're not near the ocean. [21:42] bnchs waterless car wash formulas [21:42] bnchs that's like waterless showering [21:43] DaemonFC You spray it and then you wipe with a microfiber cloth. [21:43] DaemonFC Then you throw the cloths in (someone else's) washing machine when you're done with the car. [21:43] DaemonFC :) [21:44] DaemonFC The things are so cheap that you can just buy them by the hundred and use the industrial washer over at the laundromat to clean them every now and then. [21:46] DaemonFC To keep the exterior on this one nice I'll probably just go have fun with it at the touchless wash most of the year. [21:46] DaemonFC The more you run the car through those automatic car washes, the sooner you start noticing clear coat scratches and stuff. [21:46] DaemonFC That's stuff from other people's cars getting slid all over yours. [21:47] *ziraffep has quit (connection closed) [21:48] DaemonFC Hey, there's a full service over by Ross. Heh. Didn't even notice that. I was just using the cheap automatics on the Impala. [21:49] DaemonFC It was already pretty fucked when I got it. Mom let it sit out there and start rusting and not much you can do after that sets in. [21:49] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I doubt the Buick could be anything worse than I've ever got from mom. [21:50] DaemonFC She buys junk, doesn't maintain it, rides it hard, and then gives it to a family member. Usually heavily damaged. [21:50] DaemonFC At that point you put as much money into it as buying one, it's just not right away and all at once. [21:51] DaemonFC She offered me her 2011 Impala she drives now if I could wait until next year. [21:51] DaemonFC I was already riding around in it with her a while back. The blend door actuator is malfunctioning. Those cost about $500 to replace at a shop. [21:52] DaemonFC It's making a woodpecker noise and it interferes with the HVAC system unless you repair it properly. Eventually it fails and you have to repair it or no heat or air conditioning. [21:52] *alextee (~alextee@kzh7t76mzn7gu.irc) has joined #techrights [21:52] DaemonFC The bearings in the engine are damaged and they make a clicking/rattling noise while you drive that gets worse with acceleration. [21:53] HMS i didnt think impalers was still being made [21:53] DaemonFC She realizes she got cheated and she wants out of it, and it's going to be another "free" car that takes a shit on me and needs $4,000 worth of work just to make it run acceptably again. [21:53] DaemonFC Plus, she drives like she's drunk. Can't stay in her lane, hits every pothole and the occasional curb. [21:54] DaemonFC If you get it on a lift I'm sure the frontend needs rebuilt already. [21:54] DaemonFC The 2003 that I'm getting rid of that has 280,000 miles on it rides better than her 2011. [21:54] bnchs HMS: wait i didn't see you before [21:54] bnchs hello [21:55] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYVcN_6V7eU [21:55] TR Bot https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=qYVcN_6V7eU [21:55] TR Bot invidio.xamh.de | Black cat slapped me - Invidious [21:55] DaemonFC <HMS> i didnt think impalers was still being made [21:55] DaemonFC 2019 was the last year they were made, so the last ones have a 2020 model year. [21:55] DaemonFC "Changing consumer preference." Again, federal fuel economy rules are killing the humble passenger car. [21:55] HMS yes isnt that something form 1970 [21:56] DaemonFC Now you get morons in big trucks playing on their phones, burning 8 gallons to the mile. [21:56] DaemonFC :) [21:56] DaemonFC Because that's better! [21:56] HMS big trucks are safer [21:56] DaemonFC FOR THEM! [21:57] DaemonFC Let's give them something THEY feel safe in that can do twice as much damage! [21:57] DaemonFC ARMS RACE! [21:57] HMS unless you are the other guy on the average car [21:57] DaemonFC Yeah, that's why when someone is tailgating me, I just slow down. [21:57] HMS you got love them humpvs [21:58] DaemonFC Until we're going so slow they jerk the steering wheel to get in the other lane and then floor it to get to....the red light. [21:58] DaemonFC Ahhh, we meet again. We have to stop doing this! [21:59] DaemonFC When you see someone going real slow it's almost always in a big Buick or Cadillac with a big engine. [21:59] DaemonFC Because they're some little 90 year old woman with bad eyesight. [21:59] DaemonFC I admit I must exist simply to piss off Matthew Garrett. ● Apr 08 [22:00] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@h29stqv8ereqe.irc) has joined #techrights [22:00] DaemonFC If he saw the size of any car I've ever had. I mean, the Impala is basically a compact. I feel embarrassed in it. [22:00] HMS you could fit them a hole chandelier inside them and throu a ball [22:00] DaemonFC To me, a "car" starts out at Buick Roadmaster and Ford Crown Victoria, and stuff they just don't make now. [22:01] DaemonFC I still remember the disappointment I had in 2003. [22:01] DaemonFC I had cash in hand to buy a 1991 Roadmaster and it was gone before I could get there. [22:02] HMS amaerican cars suck and thats a fact [22:02] HMS well maybe not teasla [22:02] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1ydTOJ0bho [22:02] TR Bot https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=H1ydTOJ0bho [22:02] TR Bot tube.cthd.icu | 1991 Buick Roadmaster 1 Owner LT1 350 LT-1 GM like a Fleetwood / Caprice Sedan Impala SS - Invidious [22:02] MinceR tesla sucks harder than most [22:02] HMS tesla [22:02] DaemonFC I wanted that! [22:02] bnchs is there anyone who unironically drives a tesla [22:02] DaemonFC MinceR is from Hungary, which is in Europe. [22:02] bnchs a spying car [22:02] HMS isnt that a cop car? [22:03] DaemonFC Close to Germany..... [22:03] DaemonFC Which is where the concept of clowns getting out of a VW emerged from because it's just so preposterous. [22:03] DaemonFC We keep fighting, but they keep sending them in! [22:04] DaemonFC If you see 20 clowns get out of a Crown Victoria, it's like "Okay, I can see how they all fit in that. They probably had plenty of leg room.". [22:04] DaemonFC American cars just didn't work for clown jokes. [22:06] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMYZLXDabEg [22:06] TR Bot https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=IMYZLXDabEg [22:06] TR Bot invidious.flokinet.to | Al Builds A Bathroom! | Married With Children - Invidious [22:06] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, ^ [22:07] DaemonFC Al Bundy was great. [22:07] DaemonFC With the insight on toilets even. [22:08] DaemonFC "Have you seen them lately? It's almost like they're apologizing to you when you flush them. A man's toilet should go BAWOOOOSH!". [22:12] HMS !stats [22:13] DaemonFC I don't have too many car problems where it's like days and days, no car, or surprise, and it doesn't start. [22:13] DaemonFC For driving a piece of junk almost my entire life, that's surprising to most people. I've only ever turned the key and had nothing happen once. [22:13] DaemonFC Defective battery. [22:14] AdmFubar https://lifehacker.com/why-you-should-buy-the-dumbest-tv-you-can-find-1848768646 [22:14] Alternative link CloudFlare: lifehacker.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://lifehacker.com/why-you-should-buy-the-dumbest-tv-you-can-find-1848768646 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://lifehacker.com/why-you-should-buy-the-dumbest-tv-you-can-find-1848768646 [22:14] TR Bot Why You Should Buy the Dumbest TV You Can Find [22:14] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [22:14] DaemonFC I'm buying another "dumb" car. [22:14] DaemonFC It just works. How dumb do you have to be to buy that? [22:15] DaemonFC It doesn't spy on you. There's no program stored in volatile RAM to control the power windows that requires a $500 reprogramming after a battery replacement so BMW can rip you off some more. [22:15] DaemonFC No tablets. [22:15] DaemonFC No hard drive. [22:15] DaemonFC No infotainment system. [22:15] DaemonFC No "air conditioner computers". [22:15] DaemonFC None of these things age well. [22:15] HMS you drive a hard bargain [22:16] DaemonFC The more sensors and computers and electrical wiring you put in a car, the sooner until you have a major problem. [22:16] DaemonFC But it runs great for three years, and then you lob it like a grenade at anyone who gives you 30% of MSRP for it. That's a BMW. [22:16] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [22:17] DaemonFC Most people get talked into giving their car away for nothing to the dealer as a trade-in. [22:18] DaemonFC My dad only got like $300 for his 1978 Plymouth when he traded it in at the Chevy dealer in 1992. Even then you could go find some guy at work who would pay $600-700 for it in cash and the only thing you had to do was sign over the title to him. [22:18] DaemonFC For being good with money, he even got had at the car dealerships. [22:21] DaemonFC Anyway, I combed through the Internal Revenue Code yesterday because it was incorporated by reference into the eligibility for the Affordable Community Broadband program. [22:21] DaemonFC You can actually make significantly more money than it looks like as a 2x multiple of the poverty guidline in some cases. [22:22] DaemonFC Because what you're using as proof of income should be your tax returns. They accept pay stubs, but that's the wrong way to do it for a couple of reasons. [22:22] DaemonFC 1. People tend to earn more money in the current year than in the year prior because of small COLA raises. [22:23] DaemonFC 2. Your Line 9 "Total Income" may be a lower amount than if you gave them three paystubs and computed the gross income on an annual basis from that, due to the way the tax code works. [22:23] DaemonFC Bankruptcy works this way too. [22:23] DaemonFC You can file based on your paystubs, or you can file based on your most recent tax return. [22:23] DaemonFC You should figure it out both ways and use whichever gets you under the income test. [22:24] DaemonFC And for immigration sponsorship, it's the opposite. [22:24] DaemonFC Calculate your household income in every way they allow you to submit it, and then submit whichever figure is highest, and the gross amount. That makes you more likely to not be deemed a potential burden on the state. [22:26] DaemonFC So there's multiple ways to calculate your household income, and you have thousands of dollars in wiggle room in some cases one way vs. the other. [22:28] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Part of the tech bubble is Carvana. [22:29] DaemonFC Even in this economy they're operating like way over the usual and customary price for used vehicles, and then they offer in house financing for 7 years old something old at 13%. [22:30] DaemonFC Mom was asking me if I really needed a newer car right now. I told her "No, that's why I'm buying one now, before I do, which will be 1 or 2 years, no more.". [22:30] DaemonFC She asked what I meant. I said, "If the Impala has a major breakdown and I can't get Mandy to work, I have to go take whatever deal I can get and pray that I don't get screwed very badly.". [22:31] AdmFubar https://duncanlock.net/blog/2022/04/06/using-windows-after-15-years-on-linux/ [22:31] Alternative link CloudFlare: duncanlock.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://duncanlock.net/blog/2022/04/06/using-windows-after-15-years-on-linux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://duncanlock.net/blog/2022/04/06/using-windows-after-15-years-on-linux/ [22:31] TR Bot Windows after 15 years onLinux duncanlock.net [22:31] DaemonFC "If I start while this one will still run okay most of the time, I have more options. I can walk away if something is really wrong with the first thing I look at." [22:31] HMS asian cars are the best [22:31] MinceR specifically, japanese cars [22:31] MinceR ask DaemonFC about how great korean cars are :> [22:31] DaemonFC Don't buy anything Korean. [22:32] DaemonFC They're the car Germany of Asia. [22:32] HMS why? [22:32] MinceR they used to make good mobile phones [22:32] DaemonFC Well, Hyundai and KIA have severe manufacturing defects, especially engines that blow up and brakes that catch fire. [22:32] HMS german cars are good [22:32] DaemonFC I witnessed two explosions of KIAs in a week in 2019. [22:33] DaemonFC One at Walmart and one in a motel parking lot. [22:33] DaemonFC Both of them looked like 9/11 in a parking lot. [22:33] MinceR german cars are garbage [22:33] DaemonFC Plus even if they don't blow up, they cut corners everywhere on a KIA. [22:33] MinceR and so are german buses [22:33] DaemonFC By the time it's a few years old, hinges and stuff are broken and dangling. [22:34] HMS the USA should invade Korea ? [22:34] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/apple-disney-subscription-price-increases [22:34] TR Bot piloting subscription price increase feature - Protocol [22:34] DaemonFC Then the electronics go out. [22:34] DaemonFC KIA put in Android Auto on the 2018. Then they removed it after you bought the car. [22:34] HMS ive seen kias with 7 years warranty [22:35] DaemonFC Let me tell you about the warranty. [22:35] DaemonFC People who use it get a used engine dropped in from god knows where. [22:35] DaemonFC Even if the car is pretty new. [22:35] DaemonFC Three months after I bought a 2018 KIA Soul, my air conditioner stopped working. [22:36] DaemonFC They overfilled the R-134a at the factory, and then also there was a fuse wire that popped. [22:36] DaemonFC And the dealer patched the wire and reset the R-134a level under warranty. [22:36] DaemonFC Even though I lost the car and my ex has it, I still get unserviced recall letters about possible engine fires. [22:37] DaemonFC I'm not telling him because I hope he's in it when it happens. [22:37] HMS cars of mass destruction [22:38] *alextee has quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:40] *alextee (~alextee@dexiw29c8htcg.irc) has joined #techrights [22:41] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/whataburger-biscuit-calorie-check-leads-to-texas-teens-arrest/ [22:41] TR Bot Whataburger biscuit calorie check leads to Texas teens arrest | WGN-TV [22:41] bnchs ok how [22:41] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [22:42] DaemonFC He had a joint and when the cop smelled it, it also led to finding him in possession of a handgun, which is illegal for people under 21. [22:42] bnchs ok well [22:42] bnchs how was that related to the calorie check [22:42] DaemonFC Getting out of the car with the joint in his hand to check the calories in the sandwich led to the marijuana bust, which led to the gun. [22:46] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:50] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@7zmmwv4qqhr7u.irc) has joined #techrights [22:50] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [22:57] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22032744 [22:57] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/udqgglxtmmp81.jpg created on 2022-03-27 17:31:48.757178 [22:57] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [22:57] immibis DaemonFC: either everyone should have guns or nobody [22:58] DaemonFC I don't think there should be too many restrictions on that. [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.95 k/sec., IPFS upstream 69.13 average k/sec., average swarm size 299.96 ● Apr 08 [23:00] HMS i thonk dears should have guns [23:01] MinceR i'd choose the former, then [23:01] bnchs oh you know this guy should have guns [23:01] bnchs but this guy shouldn't [23:02] HMS DaemonFC isnt GUY [23:02] bnchs he's gay [23:03] HMS she is? [23:03] bnchs HE is [23:04] HMS if he is gay then hes a she [23:04] MinceR lol [23:04] bnchs he's a she but gay means he means he is a she [23:05] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:07] HMS my thought exactly [23:09] DaemonFC My Fallout 4 playthrough is going okay, but I kind of burned myself out on it a couple of weeks ago. [23:10] DaemonFC Technically about 90% of the game is still out there to play because I have all of the expansion packs. [23:10] HMS do you think when you have to anser online forms if you are male female or dont whant to anser if you choose tha latest you are going into the gay basket? [23:10] DaemonFC I want to get to at least level 80 before I try Nuka World. [23:10] DaemonFC There's a lot of banks that just put whatever name you want on your card. [23:11] DaemonFC I don't know how that works. If someone actually does check your ID. [23:13] HMS Fallout 4 have you joined the lapsus$ clan ? [23:13] HMS the ones that put people on crosses ? [23:14] DaemonFC Crosses? [23:14] bnchs you crucfix them [23:14] DaemonFC The last time I saw anyone get crucified in Fallout was in New Vegas. [23:14] HMS ho oky igot them mixedup [23:15] HMS thats after fallout 3 ? [23:15] HMS or before? [23:16] DaemonFC It takes place between 3 and 4. [23:16] DaemonFC There are a few references to New Vegas in Fallout 4. [23:17] DaemonFC Although, Fallout New Vegas was outsourced to Obsidian. [23:17] DaemonFC They wanted to do a sequel, but Bethesda didn't let them because they were worried it would be more popular than their own game again. [23:17] bnchs if you're gonna play fallout 4 [23:17] HMS Obsidian that elder scrools [23:17] bnchs then play a "pirated" version of it [23:18] bnchs or maybe console version [23:18] bnchs HMS: obvilion [23:18] DaemonFC About the only good thing that they did to Fallout 4 was remove weapon and armor deterioration. [23:18] HMS i never really likef tpgs all that much [23:18] bnchs but that made it more accurate [23:19] DaemonFC In New Vegas, it deteriorates and you have to have a skill tree for that and stop to fix things too much. [23:19] bnchs if your weapon never jams or breaks [23:19] bnchs then basically it's unrealistic [23:19] DaemonFC They break in New Vegas, but they don't jam. [23:19] DaemonFC In New Vegas, Power Armor doesn't take any power source. [23:19] bnchs yeah [23:19] HMS is there anything reallistic on these games? [23:19] DaemonFC In Fallout 4, they require nuclear fusion batteries. [23:20] DaemonFC Obviously, it's to keep you from playing through in Power Armor all the time. [23:21] DaemonFC The fusion cells are rare and scattered because nobody has made any since the war. [23:21] bnchs power armor doesn't take power source [23:21] bnchs hmmmm [23:21] bnchs that seems unrealistic [23:21] DaemonFC Yeah. Inconsistencies. [23:22] HMS power source is a fusion battery that lasts milenia [23:22] HMS or until you get nuked [23:23] HMS why would you want to play a reallistic game? [23:24] MinceR because games that don't exist are the best games :P [23:24] HMS if you go to sleep you need to actually wait the amount of hours you gona sleep [23:24] bnchs far cry 2 had weapons that jam [23:24] HMS thats realistic for you [23:25] MinceR there is only one man who would dare give me the raspberry: Lone Starr! [23:26] HMS raspberry? [23:27] MinceR HMS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcArnepkhv0 [23:27] TR Bot https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=FcArnepkhv0 [23:27] TR Bot invidious.namazso.eu | Space balls RADAR JAMMED - Invidious [23:28] HMS on fallout 3 i got the aliens weapons chinese stealth armour and the winter power armour [23:28] bnchs "In December 2014, Ubisoft offered a free game from their catalogue of recently released titles to compensate the season pass owners of Assassin's Creed Unity due to its buggy launch. The terms offered with the free game revoked the user's right to sue Ubisoft for the buggy launch of the game" [23:28] bnchs "oh i'm sorry the game didn't work, here's a free game [23:28] HMS im GOD like! [23:28] bnchs all you have to do is sign a waiver" [23:29] HMS a free old game [23:29] bnchs dude you gotta get this free game [23:29] bnchs and not have the ability to sue Ubisoft for whatever garbage they put [23:30] MinceR the ending is better in this one >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9K4N328OI8 [23:30] TR Bot https://youtube.076.ne.jp/watch?v=B9K4N328OI8 [23:30] TR Bot youtube.076.ne.jp | Spaceballs - The Bleeps, Sweeps and the Creeps - Invidious [23:31] HMS "buggy launch of the game" cause you didnt buy the new grafics card to play it [23:31] bnchs yes [23:31] bnchs dude the game didn't work? [23:31] bnchs you didn't read the specs [23:32] bnchs you have to have 300 GB of RAM [23:32] bnchs a NASA supercomputer cluster [23:32] bnchs to run the game at 20 fps [23:33] HMS the other space game also had buggy launch [23:33] bnchs you gotta need all of NASA's computers to run the game at 50 fps [23:33] bnchs though [23:34] HMS nd a fusion battery to power them [23:34] bnchs and have fun playing (Ass)(ass)in's Creed (Unity) [23:34] bnchs while your electricity bill goes up to the billions [23:35] HMS unreal engine just got bumped to version 5 ! [23:35] psydruid muh gaymes [23:35] HMS ultra realistic shit dude [23:35] bnchs ultra realistic shit dude [23:36] bnchs you gotta have unreal engine [23:36] bnchs it's made by this guy named tim swine-e [23:36] bnchs unreal engine is so realistic, even though it can be replicated easily [23:36] HMS that shit is so real you can almost smell it [23:36] bnchs yeah it might be [23:37] bnchs but then after the eyecandy goes away [23:37] bnchs you realize the gameplay is garbage [23:37] psydruid Meet Tim: [23:37] HMS that shit is so real its unreal! [23:37] bnchs sign your soul to use it [23:41] HMS EndeavourOS is it any good? [23:42] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22032714 [23:42] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/ghxzmht3arp81.jpg created on 2022-03-27 08:37:53.062513 [23:42] HMS its got Worm WM [23:42] MinceR it comes with systemd, so it's not good [23:43] HMS systemd is your friend [23:43] psydruid KamikazeOS [23:43] bnchs the best WM is windowmaker [23:43] bnchs that shit got widgets [23:43] psydruid running in Worms VM [23:43] bnchs better than kde's garbage [23:43] MinceR not mine [23:43] MinceR and fvwm is better [23:44] bnchs lemme see EndeavourOS [23:44] bnchs >ships proprietary nvidia drivers in ISO [23:44] bnchs DUMPED [23:45] HMS fvwm cant use wayland [23:45] bnchs >wayland [23:45] bnchs garbage [23:45] bnchs use X11 [23:45] HMS srly? [23:46] bnchs yes [23:46] XRevan86 MinceR: That's the idea behind the symbol, yes. [23:47] HMS ships proprietary nvidia drivers in ISO thats a good thing [23:47] HMS for nvidia owners [23:47] XRevan86 MinceR: Could be offensive to other bearers of Pan-Slavic colours like Slovenia, but it is what it is. [23:48] MinceR i wonder how viable this "pan-slavic" thing is anyway [23:48] MinceR considering how much they like to kill each other south and east of here [23:49] TR News 10 Networking Technologies That You Probably Arent Using https://tedium.co/2022/04/08/10-obscure-networking-technologies/ Source: tedium [23:49] Alternative link CloudFlare: tedium.co | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2022/04/08/10-obscure-networking-technologies/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://tedium.co/2022/04/08/10-obscure-networking-technologies/ [23:49] TR Bot 10 Networking Technologies That You Probably Arent Using [23:50] XRevan86 MinceR: Not very viable, it's more of a historical note than anything else. [23:50] MinceR :> [23:50] TR News U.S. Treasury moves to keep Russians connected despite sanctions - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/u-s-treasury-russia-sanctions-internet/ Source: accessnow [23:50] Alternative link CloudFlare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/u-s-treasury-russia-sanctions-internet/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/u-s-treasury-russia-sanctions-internet/ [23:50] TR Bot U.S. Treasury moves to keep Russians connected despite sanctions - Access Now [23:51] bnchs <HMS> ships proprietary nvidia drivers in ISO thats a good thing [23:51] bnchs no [23:52] bnchs it's packing drivers against their will [23:52] XRevan86 MinceR: But the similiarity of all these flags is not a coincidence. So if one flag is wrong, then why not every one else? [23:52] bnchs "here have this driver that you can't choose to not install" [23:52] bnchs these drivers have EULA aswell [23:52] MinceR having the driver in the ISO shouldn't mean it has to be installed [23:52] MinceR XRevan86: dunno [23:53] MinceR i think states and nations should be abolished, and that would make most flags meaningless anyway [23:55] HMS yes one world under the jolly rogers [23:55] HMS picture that [23:55] XRevan86 But I still like the BSB flag, it's a good symbol. But the rationales that people try to invent not that great. The similiarity to BChB flag is a more practical rationale in my opinion. [23:55] TR News It seems Fedora Web traffic is so low that they've quit sharing information about it https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-14/ [23:55] TR Bot Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-14 Fedora Community Blog [23:55] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:55] TR News WineHQ - Wine Announcement - The Wine development release 7.6 is now available. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163522 [23:55] TR Bot WineHQ - Wine Announcement - The Wine development release 7.6 is now available. | Tux Machines [23:56] XRevan86 (the BChB flag is the white-red-white flag of independent Belarus') [23:56] HMS EndeavourOS has 100 times the traffic fedora has [23:57] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: I expect to be back tomorrow) [23:57] TR News Disappointing. How to put Microsoft malware on GNU/Linux to help other proprietary malware. If this is how you manage a "Linux" server, you're hopeless. https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-install-azure-data-studio-on-linux/ [23:57] TR Bot How to Install Azure Data Studio on Linux to Manage Your SQL Servers [23:57] HMS it comes with nvidia drivers as for fedora you will be lucky if your card doesnt blowup [23:58] TR News LOL! OMG!!! THIS IS SO STUPID !! "You can make your curtains smart in just 30 seconds." https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/switchbot-smart-home-products/ [23:58] TR Bot Save 30% on These SwitchBot Smart Home Products - Make Tech Easier [23:58] MinceR what's the BSB flag? [23:59] XRevan86 MinceR: white-blue-white [23:59] MinceR ah. [23:59] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:59] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:59] bnchs SMART CURTAINS