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● Jun 08
[00:00]	matey	someones gotta pay the rent
[00:00]	matey	it might help if they joined a union
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[00:01]	matey	kids should work fewer hours than their parents. or at least there should be a limit
[00:01]	matey	plus the conditions are often appalling
[00:01]	matey	but the demand is high, and no one wants to pay more of course
[00:01]	orgg	its a new day
[00:01]	matey	how can they when the price of everything goes up at home
[00:02]	matey	im sure if those kids were making fuel cheaper to put in their car, they would support it
[00:02]	matey	but its hard to get kids to be useful on an oil rig
[00:03]	DaemonFC	I get so much junk mail.
[00:03]	DaemonFC	Even junk mail is more pleasant than cheap toilet paper.
[00:03]	DaemonFC	It's just not flushable.
[00:04]	DaemonFC	It's amazing I was yelling at Mandy for throwing toilet paper in the trash at the hotel.
[00:04]	DaemonFC	Mom said he probably had to do that because of lousy plumbing in the Philippines.
[00:04]	DaemonFC	And they get here and just assume ours is equally bad.
[00:04]	DaemonFC	And if they flush toilet paper, it's going to cause a pipe to back up.
[00:05]	TR News	So China does exactly what the NSA and CIA do https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/06/07/peoples-republic-china-state-sponsored-cyber-actors-exploit
[00:05]	TR Bot	 Peoples Republic of China State-Sponsored Cyber Actors Exploit Network Providers and Devices | CISA
[00:07]	schestowitz_TR2	DaemonFC: many in tondo just "go in the river"
[00:08]	schestowitz_TR2	DaemonFC: so you had to do some post-marital potty trianing
[00:09]	TR News	Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165741
[00:09]	TR Bot	 Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[00:09]	orgg	when are you gona stop chating about crap?
[00:11]	orgg	you must cops
[00:11]	orgg	be
[00:11]	schestowitz_TR2	You might need to go back and see who started it
[00:11]	schestowitz_TR2	usually it's DaemonFC  talking about his personal life
[00:11]	schestowitz_TR2	which leads to all sorts of "shit"
[00:11]	orgg	DaemonFC ofcourse
[00:12]	schestowitz_TR2	typically we discuss tech
[00:12]	TR News	Videos: Audacity, M1, Org Mode Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165742
[00:12]	TR Bot	 Videos: Audacity, M1, Org Mode | Tux Machines
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[00:14]	TR News	tuxmachines 18 y.o. in less than 2 days...
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[00:15]	DaemonFC	I was reading that a long time ago.
[00:15]	DaemonFC	God, I think it may have been that long ago.
[00:16]	DaemonFC	I remember being over at dad and Jan's one year when they were in a good mood and actually invited me and my brother over for Christmas, and I was talking about Knoppix with dad.
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[00:17]	DaemonFC	There we go. ZZ Top. You can't go wrong with that.
[00:17]	DaemonFC	Most of the FM stations have devolved into talentless crap and they just play it over and over again.
[00:17]	DaemonFC	Not even fun to listen to if you can understand any of the words.
[00:17]	TR News	New paper in leading journal (today): "Software developed for this manuscript is available from ... under the license GNU General Public License version 3 (GPLv3) and archived under"
[00:18]	DaemonFC	I don't even know what's wrong with people who want to listen to that shit.
[00:18]	DaemonFC	Maybe they're just so primitive that the most loud and annoying one gets what they want from the others.
[00:18]	TR News	Open Source Software in the Modern Enterprise | Data Center Knowledge | News and analysis for the data center industry https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/open-source/history-open-source-software-modern-enterprise Source: datacenterknowledge
[00:18]	TR Bot	 Open Source Software in the Modern Enterprise | Data Center Knowledge | News and analysis for the data center industry
[00:19]	matey	<schestowitz_TR2> You might need to go back and see who started it <- thats surprisingly easy
[00:19]	DaemonFC	Who even cares what you listen to this shit on? Garbage is garbage.
[00:19]	DaemonFC	Might as well be Beats by Dr. Dre and Apple.
[00:19]	matey	capitalism reduces every man woman and child to an opportunity for exploitation
[00:20]	matey	lie is cheapened and people stupidly live near resources
[00:20]	DaemonFC	Yeah, you don't have to worry about being cheated with Capitalism.
[00:20]	DaemonFC	You usually get a receipt for that.
[00:20]	matey	you cant just keep exploiting the world without wars, after all
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[00:20]	matey	you think we couldnt stop wars if we wanted to?
[00:20]	matey	i mean, most war.
[00:21]	matey	some wouldnt obviously happen anyway
[00:21]	TR News	"Learned if i was born a girl my parents would have named me Lina Ann Wennerberg" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi
[00:21]	DaemonFC	The Capitalism in Theory rants are just as whacked out as the Communism in Theory ones.
[00:21]	matey	most war is happening either because people have resources, or because selling weapons is profitable
[00:21]	matey	and the 
[00:21]	matey	and the REST is just bullshit excuses
[00:21]	DaemonFC	Like "If you just gave people a license to do whatever they want, things sort themselves out.".
[00:21]	matey	we could decimate war very easily, if it wasnt mostly about profit
[00:21]	DaemonFC	I'm for people doing whatever they want as long as they don't hurt anyone else.
[00:21]	DaemonFC	I think that's where it should end.
[00:22]	matey	fof course war existed before profit was such a big thing, and it would still exist otherwise
[00:22]	matey	the question is how much of it would still exist
[00:22]	TR News	"The Noguchi Filing System is for keeping track of physical paper" gemini://idiomdrottning.org/nfs
[00:22]	matey	especially if all the workers were armed :)
[00:23]	TR News	Gemipedia and Kennedy gemini://gemini.hitchhiker-linux.org/gemlog/gemipedia_and_kennedy.gmi "I've added both Gemipedia and Kennedy to the default search engines in Eva. That means that in the next version of Eva you will be able to search Gemipedia..."
[00:24]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D254.jpg
[00:24]	matey	that part of course is a bit counter-intuitive for a lot of people
[00:24]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR2, It may have been a negotiation tactic btw, mom's landlord.
[00:24]	matey	to oversimplify it a bit
[00:25]	DaemonFC	When she came back and said she's having a really hard time financially and they're cutting her hours and there's no jobs that are calling her back to take on more work, he cut the increase from like $320 to $150.
[00:25]	matey	if the workers arent armed, the state will be
[00:25]	matey	if the state is armed and the workers arent, the state will start/join/extend more wars than the workers will
[00:25]	DaemonFC	Like, he was probing to see what he could get away with and they finally worked out something that still mostly goes towards his new beach house.
[00:25]	TR News	Current projects gemini://clemat.is/gemlog/[2022-06-07]..Current.projects...gmi "Reinstalled lineage witCurrent projectsh no gapps at all, and only got what I needed from F-Droid. This got me to discover a few new app like Manyverse and Briar that I would like to play a bit more with."
[00:26]	matey	so arm the workers and youll have less war
[00:26]	matey	youll also have a less corrupt state
[00:26]	matey	and with less corruption will be less war
[00:26]	matey	not to mention with less corruption the state can be smaller
[00:26]	matey	these are all nice things
[00:26]	matey	but you have to arm the workers
[00:27]	schestowitz_TR2	DaemonFC: I told you that's what I was guessing
[00:27]	schestowitz_TR2	he aimed high
[00:27]	schestowitz_TR2	to reach a high middle ground
[00:28]	schestowitz_TR2	bl
[00:29]	DaemonFC	And he told more lies in the process.
[00:30]	DaemonFC	He didn't raise the rent on the shitheads upstairs that are lighting up and smoking something that smells like dog shit every night and beating and fucking each other.
[00:30]	DaemonFC	Because he knows they work at Taco Bell and you can't get blood out of a turnip.
[00:30]	DaemonFC	And he said her electric was running "Well over $200 every month." and it's averaging $150.
[00:32]	DaemonFC	Which means it's often lower than $150, sometimes higher, but $150 average is not "Always well over $200.".
[00:32]	DaemonFC	He just lies to make it look like he had to and everyone is getting hit, but then in the same breath he brags about what he spends their money on..
[00:32]	DaemonFC	And says go get another job.
[00:33]	DaemonFC	That's why you should do nothing to tip the landlord off about how much money you make if he thinks it's low enough to pay about what you pay now but not put you over the edge, but that you pay every month, you're more likely to get hit with smaller increases.
[00:34]	DaemonFC	Landlords, most of them, realize that evictions are hard right now. The local government is still making them slog it out in court and the whole thing can take over a year to get you out of there.
[00:34]	DaemonFC	If they put you over the edge they may not get anything and then you move out, disappear, and stiff him.
[00:34]	DaemonFC	He rents out to people and they have the gang police out here.
[00:35]	DaemonFC	They're not classy.
[00:35]	DaemonFC	It smells like a damned petting zoo on the other side of that door in the hall. Thank god there's a door there to keep it on the other side of the hall.
[00:35]	DaemonFC	I already have about a gazillion air purifiers in here.
[00:35]	DaemonFC	Plus a dehumidifier to prevent it from turning into a swamp.
[00:39]	matey	talking about tech is great
[00:40]	matey	tech is going to continue to be shit as long as everything is run by corrupt murderous industries
[00:40]	matey	there, now its about tech
[00:41]	matey	dont like it? try to move away from the corrupt murderous industries and make it about people
[00:41]	matey	not tech companies
[00:41]	matey	because tech companies are a bunch of cunts
[00:42]	DaemonFC	Corporations are people, my friend.
[00:42]	DaemonFC	And people are a bunch of cunts.
[00:42]	matey	you can report that all day long, or you can decide that enough is enough and come to some workable conclusion about it
[00:42]	matey	which techrights hasnt done yet, but other people have
[00:43]	matey	granted its going to take a while, but when it does
[00:43]	DaemonFC	https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/06/07/fleeing-suspect-drives-wrong-way-causes-multiple-vehicle-crash-that-left-7-injured-in-waukegan/
[00:43]	TR Bot	 Fleeing suspect drives wrong way, causes multiple-vehicle crash that left 7 injured in Waukegan
[00:43]	matey	someone can explain what hapepned to roy so he can write about it
[00:44]	DaemonFC	"Most of the victims had minor injuries except for the suspect, identified as Montrell Lewis, 44, of Waukegan, who Florip said had moderate injuries.
[00:44]	DaemonFC	Lewis, who has a lengthy criminal history, had multiple felony warrants for domestic battery and aggravated assault charges out of Lake County at the time of his arrest, court records show.
[00:44]	DaemonFC	Florip said that Lewis has not been charged yet in connection with the Amstutz Expressway crash because the investigation is still ongoing."
[00:44]	matey	until then its just going to be in a big holding pattern of sniffing fake organisations butts and saying what it smells like
[00:45]	matey	heres the fsf, they dont know anything about whats going and on they dont care
[00:46]	matey	but, they let stallman come back as long as he didnt do anything
[00:46]	matey	very fight-for-your-freedom
[00:46]	matey	they also told the board not to do anything
[00:46]	matey	unless its very very nice to the people who have taken over the fsf
[00:46]	matey	the board has no right to be critical
[00:47]	matey	so you have more rights if youre not on the board
[00:47]	matey	the fsf fights for your freedom. the board is free to go along with that.
[00:47]	matey	and say its nice
[00:47]	matey	stallman is free to BE THERE
[00:47]	matey	and say its nice
[00:47]	matey	you are free to pay the fsf, and say its nice-- and if you want, you can pay MORE to go to lieplanet
[00:47]	matey	and say ITS nice
[00:48]	matey	with an organisation so dedicated to be nice, its really a wonder how theyre supposed to "fight" for anything
[00:49]	matey	theyve pretty much BANNED fighting from the leadership down to paying guests at events
[00:49]	matey	but SOMEONE will fight for your freedom, SOMEHOW!
[00:49]	matey	even if its not allowed
[00:50]	DaemonFC	This guy has a lot of obstruction/destroy evidence charges over the years. LOL
[00:50]	DaemonFC	Wonder what those are about.
[00:50]	DaemonFC	Lots of domestic battery.
[00:51]	DaemonFC	Owes the court about a gazillion dollars.
[00:51]	DaemonFC	Serial shit dick.
[00:55]	matey	https://twitter.com/amazonlabor/status/1533423886750056448
[00:55]	TR Bot	A message to Amazons lawyers: If you fire the person youre thinking about firing right now well take it as an act of war.
[00:55]	matey	 :>
[00:56]	matey	i have mixed feelings about unions-- because unions are a mixed bag
[00:56]	matey	theyre a vital step either way, so you can have mixed feelings about them and we need them even if sometimes (some days) theyre hardly better than the fsf
[00:56]	matey	it depends on the day, and the union, and especially when the (often shit) leaders are up to
[00:57]	matey	so youll read stories about unions that are absolute wtf
[00:57]	matey	but theyre also the first step towards workers ruling 
[00:57]	matey	and that makes unions a vital step
[00:58]	matey	some are better than others, but when workers organise they DONT tend to create perfect unions and then "join" those
[00:58]	matey	they tend to simply put themselves together with the big unions, regardless of what those unions were like 5 minutes or 10 years ago
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[00:59]	matey	thats where they begin to change things
[00:59]	matey	the unions arent as important as the workers, but they have to work together somewhere
[00:59]	matey	kind of like when computer user groups meet at mcdonalds
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[01:00]	matey	i mean, if thats where the seats are
[01:00]	matey	when the civil rights movement organised in churches
[01:00]	matey	it didnt matter WHAT CHURCH it was
[01:00]	matey	they didnt say "well, i think we should probably move to an episcipalian..." it wasnt relevant
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[01:53]	XRevan86	https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/magisk-general-support-discussion.3432382/post-86993241 Magisk 25.0
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[04:41]	DaemonFC	Unions are a mixed bag. On one end, they take your paycheck.
[04:42]	DaemonFC	On the other hand, your employer threatens to fire you as well.
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[05:29]	DaemonFC	I found a bunch of coffee on Amazon Warehouse Deals and wiped them out.
[05:29]	DaemonFC	Coffee prices are getting obscene.
[05:30]	DaemonFC	I bought half a dozen 33 ounce bags of Colombian roast. We'll see what the dates are and maybe I'll buy more if they have them.
[05:30]	DaemonFC	They have all kinds of stuff. Like Starbucks and Peets.
[05:31]	DaemonFC	Rather buy it from Warehouse Deals than go get that cheap shit at Walmart that tastes like dirt.
[05:31]	DaemonFC	I think the biggest coffee mistake I ever made was trying a bag from Dollar Tree that said "Product of Vietnam".
[05:31]	DaemonFC	It left some sort of plastic-like film on my coffee maker's carafe.
[05:33]	DaemonFC	The Post Office is even raising all of their fees sky high.
[05:33]	DaemonFC	My PO Box went from $64 for 6 months to $87.
[05:35]	DaemonFC	The price of everything is up like double and Walmart comes out and goes "Here's your 50 cents".
[05:57]	DaemonFC	https://www.pristinesprays.com/blogs/news/the-history-of-butt-wiping
[05:57]	TR Bot	 The History of Butt Wiping: What Did People Use Before Toilet Paper? Pristine Sprays
[05:57]	DaemonFC	"A variety of other objects were also used, including leaves, handfuls of straw, and seashells."
[05:57]	DaemonFC	Hahahahaha. He doesn't know how to use the three seashells!
[05:57]	DaemonFC	MinceR, ^
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[06:30]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[07:43]	TR News	"As Ive written and presented on previously, IPv6 security is inherently hard." https://blog.apnic.net/2022/06/07/rfc-9099-operational-security-considerations-for-ipv6-networks/ | Source: APNIC
[07:43]	TR Bot	 RFC 9099 Operational security considerations for IPv6 networks | APNIC Blog
[07:44]	TR News	"From the manpage(8), the tool creates a temporary copy of the file, then invokes whichever editor you have defined in SUDO_EDITOR" https://rubenerd.com/using-sudoedit-to-sudo-edit/ | Source: Ruben Schade
[07:44]	TR Bot	Using sudoedit to sudo edit
[07:44]	TR News	"When I see work like those two examples above, I see work that explores a relationship between things." https://blog.relyabilit.ie/what-sre-could-be/ | Source: Niall Murphy
[07:44]	TR Bot	 What SRE could be
[07:45]	TR News	"It gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling that you might in some part of the world be using some small portion of Ansible in which I muddled, back in the time. Enjoy it." https://jpmens.net/2022/06/06/ten-years-of-ansible/ | Source: Jan Piet Mens
[07:45]	TR Bot	 Jan-Piet Mens :: Ten years of Ansible
[07:47]	TR News	"Another month, another chance to look at the distro stats on ProtonDB." https://boilingsteam.com/a-bunch-of-linux-gamers-are-trying-fedora-out-in-2022/ | Source: Boiling Steam
[07:47]	TR Bot	 A Bunch of Linux Gamers are Trying Fedora Out in 2022 - Boiling Steam
[07:51]	TR News	10 Best KDE Apps for Everyone in 2022 [Part 1] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165743
[07:51]	TR Bot	 10 Best KDE Apps for Everyone in 2022 [Part 1] | Tux Machines
[07:51]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165744
[07:51]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[07:51]	TR News	"Im sure Ive been wrong in many other ways, but these are the big ones that both stick with me and make me sigh over the missed opportunities they represent" https://staceyoniot.com/4-times-i-got-it-wrong-about-iot-and-data/ | Source: Stacy on IoT
[07:51]	TR Bot	 4 times I got it wrong about IoT and data - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
[07:54]	schestowitz	7
[07:54]	schestowitz	> Drew Hirshfeld is leaving the USPTO.  Certainly, he has been lurking at
[07:54]	schestowitz	> or near the top of the USPTO as I've been pounding on the USPTO.  But, I
[07:54]	schestowitz	> doubt if I've had any impact.  He probably just decided to go.  Maybe
[07:54]	schestowitz	> Kathi Vidal has a problem with him.  
[07:54]	schestowitz	> 
[07:54]	schestowitz	> 
[07:54]	schestowitz	>     After a nearly 30-year career at the USPTO, Drew Hirshfeld to step
[07:54]	schestowitz	>     down later this month 
[07:54]	schestowitz	>     https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/USPTO/bulletins/31b1cd5
[07:54]	TR Bot	 After a nearly 30-year career at the USPTO, Drew Hirshfeld to step down later this month
[07:54]	schestowitz	>     <https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/USPTO/bulletins/31b1cd5>
[07:54]	schestowitz	I considered him POTENTIALLY one of the better people, but they never gave him the top spot on a permanent basis. Maybe due to lobbying by the litigation industry. 
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[08:02]	TR News	"In Emacs, the buffer is the focal point of nearly all user (and machine!) interactions." https://www.masteringemacs.org/article/why-emacs-has-buffers |
[08:02]	TR Bot	 Why Emacs has Buffers - Mastering Emacs
[08:03]	TR News	[Old] "Since a few years I am also managing tlcontrib the supplementary TeX Live package repository." https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/05/tlcontrib-on-ctan/ | Source: Norbert Preining
[08:03]	TR Bot	 TLContrib on CTAN | There and back again
[08:03]	TR News	"The changes to manifest v3 proved to me that Google has complete control over the WebExtension ecosystem and will force their hand whenever they feel they should." https://andregarzia.com/2022/05/Patchfox-reborn-as-a-desktop-app.html | Source: Andre Alves Garzia
[08:03]	TR Bot	reborn as a desktop app AndreGarzia.com
[08:04]	TR News	"Before this, the latest refreshed specification of HTTP/1.1 was done in the RFC 7230 series" https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/06/06/new-http-core-specs/ | Source: Daniel Stenberg
[08:04]	TR Bot	HTTP core specs | daniel.haxx.se
[08:05]	TR News	"For the last few years, usage-based pricing has been an excellent strategy for SaaS companies" https://matt-rickard.com/usage-based-pricing-in-a-downturn/ | Source: Matt Rickard
[08:05]	TR Bot	 Usage-based Pricing in a Downturn
[08:06]	TR News	"Peter Hansteen, Massimiliano Stucchi and Tom Smyth gave a presentation on pf at BSDCan 2022." https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220607112236 | Source: Undeadly
[08:06]	TR News	"On September 26, 2001 a director from Finland (Hannu Puttonen) released an hour-long documentary covering the early days of Linux" https://lunduke.substack.com/p/a-2001-documentary-on-linux-is-available | Source: Bryan Lunduke
[08:06]	TR Bot	timed out after 10518 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220607112236 )
[08:06]	TR News	"A lot of what we use in the day to day life in the developed world may not always be available to those in the developing world" https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/06/r-ladies-cotonou-talks-about-running-an-r-users-group-in-benin-west-africa/ | Source: Rlang
[08:06]	TR Bot	 A 2001 documentary on Linux is available in full for free
[08:07]	TR Bot	Cotonou Talks About Running an R users Group in Benin, West Africa | R-bloggers
[08:09]	TR News	"One thought has been bouncing around in my mind for the last few months: did social media need to evolve in this way?" https://jamesg.blog/2022/06/07/walled-gardens/ | Source: James G
[08:09]	TR Bot	 Some thoughts on walled gardens | James' Coffee Blog
[08:09]	TR News	[Old] "Linked lists are often overused in introductory algorithmics courses, due to a heavy focus on theorical complexities. Unfortunatly, in practice, computers are complex beasts." http://ykarroum.com/2022/05/30/true-cost-list/ |
[08:09]	TR Bot	true cost of linked lists YKarroum
[08:09]	TR News	"For the rationale to 1) it is best to start looking at Github. With its popularity, network effects and FOMO it has established a real dominant position in software development community." https://forum.forgefriends.org/t/repositioning-forgefed-scope-to-code-forges-or-free-software-development-lifecycle-fsdl/713/5 |
[08:09]	TR Bot	 Repositioning ForgeFed? Scope to Code Forges or Free Software Development Lifecycle (FSDL) - #5 by aschrijver - Ideas - forgefriends
[08:09]	TR News	"When loading a data structure from memory, a naive model of the cost is the number of cache lines that are accessed" https://lemire.me/blog/2022/06/06/data-structure-size-and-cache-line-accesses/ | Source: Daniel Lemire
[08:09]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/06/06/data-structure-size-and-cache-line-accesses/ )
[08:11]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D255.jpg
[08:12]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D609.jpg
[08:13]	TR News	[Old] "" https://www.androidauthority.com/state-of-usb-c-870996/ | Source: Android Authority
[08:13]	TR Bot	 USB-C in 2021: Why it's still a mess - Android Authority
[08:13]	TR News	[Old] "" https://pocketnow.com/usb-c-compatibility-problems | Source: Pocket Now
[08:13]	TR Bot	compatibility problems are the worst! | Pocketnow
[08:13]	TR News	[Old] "" https://www.howtogeek.com/353410/3-problems-with-usb-c-you-need-to-know/ | Source: HowTo Geek
[08:13]	TR Bot	 3 Problems With USB-C You Need To Know About
[08:14]	TR News	[Old] "" https://www.howtogeek.com/240777/watch-out-how-to-buy-a-usb-type-c-cable-that-wont-damage-your-devices/ | Source: HowTo Geek
[08:14]	TR Bot	 Watch Out: How to Buy a USB Type-C Cable That Wont Damage Your Devices
[08:16]	TR News	"Nearly a decade after the measure was first floated, EU member states agreed on Tuesday to the text of a law that will impose one standard charger for smartphones and tablets sold within the bloc" https://www.dw.com/en/eu-agrees-on-single-phone-charger-law/a-62051438 | Source: Deutsche Welle
[08:16]	TR Bot	agrees on single phone charger law | News | DW | 07.06.2022
[08:16]	TR News	"The EU member states and parliament on Tuesday agreed the text of a law imposing a standard charger for smartphones and tablets sold in the bloc, in a blow to Apple." https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220607-eu-to-require-single-charger-for-all-smartphones-to-combat-electronic-waste | Source: France24
[08:16]	TR Bot	 EU to require single charger for all smartphones to combat electronic waste
[08:16]	TR News	"We knew it was likely, and now the European Parliament has confirmed it: the EU is set require a USB-C port for charging most electronic devices" https://www.pcmag.com/news/usb-c-charging-will-be-mandatory-across-the-eu-in-2024 | Source: PC Mag
[08:16]	TR Bot	Charging Will Be Mandatory Across the EU in 2024 | PCMag
[08:17]	TR News	"The legislation has been under development for more than a decade, but an agreement on its scope was reached this morning following negotiations between different EU bodies." https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/7/23156361/european-union-usb-c-wired-charging-iphone-lightning-ewaste | Source: The Verge
[08:17]	TR Bot	 USB-C will be mandatory for phones sold in the EU by autumn 2024 - The Verge
[08:17]	TR News	"All smartphones and tablets would have to use a common charger under a provisional European Union agreement clinched on Tuesday" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-07/eu-agrees-to-force-apple-phones-tablets-to-use-common-charger | Source: Bloomberg
[08:17]	TR Bot	- Are you a robot?
[08:17]	TR News	"Cell phones and handheld electronic devices in the European Union will now be required to have a USB-C charging port" https://text.npr.org/1103493025 | Source: NPR
[08:17]	TR Bot	 The EU will soon require all cellphones to have the same type of charging port
[08:17]	TR News	"The emergence of HTTP/2 and now HTTP/3 have made it clear that HTTPs core semantics dont change between protocol versions." https://www.mnot.net/blog/2022/06/06/http-core | Source: Mark Nottingham
[08:17]	TR Bot	 A New Definition of HTTP
[08:18]	TR News	"As the global chip shortage stretches toward the two-year mark, manufacturers are pulling some unusual tricks to keep production lines moving." https://www.wired.com/story/chip-shortage-hacks/ | Source: Wired
[08:18]	TR Bot	Are Hacking Their Way Around the Chip Shortage | WIRED
[08:20]	TR News	It is not a "supply chain" crisis but an inherently broken system.
[08:20]	TR News	"Social [control] media can be truly toxic, especially in times of crisis. Were better off without it." https://batsov.com/articles/2022/06/06/back-in-action/ | Source: Bozhidar Batsov
[08:21]	TR Bot	 Back in Action - (think)
[08:21]	TR News	"At the end of May, 2022, GMail discontinued use of standard authentication methods for POP3, IMAP, and SMTP" https://www.arcanoae.com/resolving-issues-with-gmail-and-oauth-2-0-requirements/ | Source: Arca Noae
[08:22]	TR Bot	 Resolving issues with GMail and OAuth 2.0 requirements - Arca Noae
[08:22]	TR News	"A new version of macOS means a new collection of Macs can no longer run Apples latest desktop operating system." https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/7/23157662/macos-ventura-compatible-macs-2015-macbook-pro-2013-mac-pro | Source: The Verge
[08:22]	TR Bot	 Apples macOS Ventura leaves trusty 2015 MacBook Pro behind - The Verge
[08:22]	TR News	Windows TCO: https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/21680-mtv-owner-of-vastaamo-ruled-entitled-to-compensation-for-acquisition.html | Source: Helsinki Times
[08:22]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/21680-mtv-owner-of-vastaamo-ruled-entitled-to-compensation-for-acquisition.html )
[08:23]	TR News	[Old] "If youre using iOS 11 or later, you may have noticed that photos taken with your iPhone camera are saved as HEIC files instead of the previous format, JPG." https://backlightblog.com/iphone-heic-to-jpg |
[08:23]	TR Bot	 What is HEIC, and how do you convert photos from HEIC to JPG?
[08:23]	TR News	[Old] "Got .HEIC photo images import from your iPhone? You may found that Ubuntu does not open the file format out-of-the-box." https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2021/06/open-heic-convert-jpg-png-ubuntu-20-04/ | Source: Ubuntu Handbook
[08:23]	TR Bot	 How to Open iOS HEIC Photos or Convert to JPG/PNG in Ubuntu 20.04 | 22.04 | UbuntuHandbook
[08:25]	TR News	"On 1 June, the Transatlantic Consumer Dialogue (TACD), that EDRi is part of, published a policy resolution on banning surveillance-based advertising." https://edri.org/our-work/consumer-and-digital-groups-in-europe-and-the-u-s-call-for-a-full-ban-on-surveillance-based-advertising/ | Source: EDRI
[08:25]	TR Bot	 Consumer and digital groups in Europe and the U.S. call for a full ban on surveillance-based advertising - European Digital Rights (EDRi)
[08:25]	TR News	"This also leads me to think about the provenance of data used for these analytical purposes." https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2022/6/261159-digital-synergy/fulltext | Source: ACM
[08:25]	TR Bot	 Digital Synergy | June 2022 | Communications of the ACM
[08:25]	TR News	"Kanimba and Panyi spoke Monday at a panel discussion on Digital Authoritarianism on the Open Market, hosted by the Atlantic Councils Digital Forensic Research Lab at this years 360/Open Summit in Brussels." https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/spyware-like-pegasus-is-a-warning-digital-authoritarianism-can-happen-in-democracies-too/ | Source: Atlantic Council
[08:25]	TR Bot	 Spyware like Pegasus is a warning: Digital authoritarianism can happen in democracies, too - Atlantic Council
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[08:30]	TR News	"I finally found out that Li Peng had registered a complaint with the State Council that I, Bao Tong, had leaked details of a classified military decision made by the Central Committee" https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/tiananmen-baotong2-06032022163714.html | Source: RFA
[08:30]	TR Bot	 'Follow the party and prosper: oppose it and die' Radio Free Asia
[08:30]	TR News	"cryptocurrencies have all sorts of problems but blockchains are a fantastic new technology with all sorts of uses that are nothing to do with financial speculation" https://blog.dshr.org/2022/06/you-cant-have-one-without-other.html | Source: David Rosenthal
[08:30]	TR Bot	 DSHR's Blog: You Can't Have One Without The Other
[08:31]	TR News	"The new feature is expected to launch in September, with the release of iOS 16, and allows borrowers to pay for items in four installments over the course of six weeks with zero interest and zero fees." https://qz.com/2174511/apples-getting-into-the-easy-debt-game-of-buy-now-pay-later/ | Source: Quartz
[08:31]	TR Bot	 Apple's getting into the easy debt game of buy now, pay later Quartz
[08:33]	TR News	Financial incentive to support criminals and bail out criminals from Microsoft. "Paul Pelosi also purchased Microsoft call options worth as much as $600,000." https://nypost.com/2022/06/07/paul-pelosis-bought-up-to-2-1m-of-apple-microsoft-shares/ | Source: NYPost
[08:33]	TR Bot	 Paul Pelosi's bought up to $2.1M of Apple, Microsoft shares
[08:34]	TR News	The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
[08:34]	TR Bot	 The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
[08:35]	TR News	"his agency also banned 80 Russian television channels from broadcasting in the country." https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-dozhd-broadcast-latvia/31885888.html | Source: RFERL
[08:35]	TR News	"Based on open-source information, ASPI assesses the inauthentic Twitter accounts behind this operation are likely another iteration of the pro-CCP Spamouflage network, which Twitter attributed to the Chinese government in 2019." https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/smart-asian-women-are-the-new-targets-of-ccp-global-online-repression/ | Source: The Strategist
[08:35]	TR Bot	 Blocked In Russia, TV Dozhd Gets License In Neighboring Latvia
[08:35]	TR Bot	 Smart Asian women are the new targets of CCP global online repression | The Strategist
[08:37]	TR News	"The video featuring two men and two women went viral and allegedly angered the leadership of Russia's tightly controlled, predominantly Muslim, republic of Chechnya." https://www.rferl.org/a/chechens-group-sex-video-killed/31883512.html | Source: RFERL
[08:37]	TR Bot	 Chechens Involved In Group Sex Video That Went Viral Have Been Killed, Says Police Source
[08:38]	TR News	GamingOnLinux should know better and NOT promote Microsoft Minecraft, at the very least because it is proprietary, not just because it supports criminal activity.
[08:39]	TR News	"Members of the openSUSE Brazilian community are getting together for a release party on June 15 for openSUSE Leap 15.4." https://news.opensuse.org/2022/06/07/os-brazil-community-leap-release/ |
[08:39]	TR Bot	 openSUSEs Brazilian Community to Celebrate Leap Release - openSUSE News
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[08:40]	TR News	Dome Keeper and GNU/Linux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/dome-keeper-is-going-to-be-my-next-craving-demo-is-great-on-linux-and-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:40]	TR Bot	Keeper is going to be my next craving, demo is great on Linux and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
[08:40]	TR News	"From the developer of the indie hit Bears Restaurant, Odencat has released Fishing Paradiso, a cozy fishing RPG." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/casual-relaxing-indie-rpg-fishing-paradiso-is-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:40]	TR Bot	relaxing indie RPG 'Fishing Paradiso' is out now | GamingOnLinux
[08:40]	TR News	"Recently we had the official iFixit launch for Steam Deck replacement parts but one major bit was missing the Battery." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/ifixit-have-the-steam-deck-battery-prices-up-but-already-sold-out/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:40]	TR Bot	have the Steam Deck Battery prices up but already sold out | GamingOnLinux
[08:41]	TR News	"This tutorial continues Calc Basics IV and now we will learn two new formulas namely LEN and CONCATENATE." https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/06/libreoffice-calc-basics-v-len-and-concatenate.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
[08:41]	TR Bot	 LibreOffice Calc Basics V: LEN and CONCATENATE
[08:42]	TR News	Germany too close to Russia? https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/olaf-scholz-and-ukraine-why-has-germany-been-so-slow-to-deliver-weapons-a-7cc8397b-2448-49e6-afa5-00311c8fedce
[08:42]	TR Bot	 Olaf Scholz and Ukraine: Why Has Germany Been So Slow to Deliver Weapons? - DER SPIEGEL
[08:42]	TR News	Wi-Fi not the way to go at home? https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/home-networking-upgrades-that-changed-my:9
[08:42]	TR Bot	 Home Networking Upgrades That Changed My Life
[08:42]	TR News	old: Tor Books Announces E-book Store: Doctorow, Scalzi & Stross Talk DRM-Free | Tor.com https://www.tor.com/2012/06/04/tor-books-announces-e-book-store-doctorow-scalzi-a-stross-talk-drm-free/ Source: tor
[08:42]	TR Bot	Books Announces E-book Store: Doctorow, Scalzi & Stross Talk DRM-Free | Tor.com
[08:43]	TR News	The Code: Story of Linux documentary (Multilingual) (HQ 50 fps) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/zPt_e9Cdk08 Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
[08:43]	TR Bot	 The Code: Story of Linux documentary (Multilingual) (HQ 50 fps) - Invidious
[08:43]	TR News	More than three-quarters of Russians still support Putins Ukraine War - Atlantic Council https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/more-than-three-quarters-of-russians-still-support-putins-ukraine-war/ Source: atlanticcouncil
[08:43]	TR Bot	 More than three-quarters of Russians still support Putins Ukraine War - Atlantic Council
[08:43]	TR News	Muslims accuse Ilhan Omar of unbelief, call her disgrace to the hijab because of her Pride Month tweet https://robertspencer.org/2022/06/muslims-accuse-ilhan-omar-of-unbelief-call-her-disgrace-to-the-hijab-because-of-her-pride-month-tweet Source: robertspencer
[08:43]	TR Bot	 Muslims accuse Ilhan Omar of unbelief, call her disgrace to the hijab because of her Pride Month tweet
[08:46]	TR News	UK cinema chain cancels screenings of blasphemous film after protests | Film | The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/jun/07/uk-cinema-chain-cancels-screenings-of-film-the-lady-of-heaven-after-protests Source: theguardian
[08:46]	TR Bot	 UK cinema chain cancels screenings of blasphemous film after protests | Movies | The Guardian
[08:48]	TR News	Sandvine https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-03/sandvine-pulls-back-from-russia-as-us-eu-tighten-control-on-technology-it-sells
[08:48]	TR Bot	- Are you a robot?
[08:51]	TR News	"Hello geeks, booting Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish) into rescue and emergency mode helps to reset the forgotten user password" https://www.linuxtechi.com/boot-ubuntu-22-04-rescue-emergency-mode/ | Source: LinuxTechi
[08:51]	TR Bot	 How to Boot Ubuntu 22.04 into Rescue / Emergency Mode
[08:53]	TR News	"Short for Secure Shell, SSH is a secure network protocol that encrypts traffic between two endpoints." https://www.tecmint.com/configure-ssh-passwordless-rhel-9/ | Source: TecMint
[08:53]	TR Bot	 How to Configure SSH Passwordless Authentication on RHEL 9
[08:53]	TR News	"If what you want is to build a collaborative workspace on your Linux server, the most evident options might be Nextcloud, ownCloud, and Seafile." https://www.tecmint.com/collaborate-documents-onlyoffice-workspace/ | Source: TecMint
[08:53]	TR Bot	 How to Collaborate Documents Using ONLYOFFICE Workspace
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[08:54]	TR News	"The free and open source retro FPS game engine, GZDoom, has a brand new release available with some big new features" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/gzdoom-480-with-cut-scene-system-discord-integration-hud-scaling/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:54]	TR Bot	4.8.0 with cut-scene system, Discord integration, HUD scaling | GamingOnLinux
[08:54]	TR News	"Interested in picking up some more games that will work nicely on Steam Deck or a Linux desktop?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/new-steam-deck-verified-titles-now-over-3200-playable/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:54]	TR Bot	new interesting Steam Deck Verified titles, there's now over 3,200 confirmed Playable | GamingOnLinux
[08:54]	schestowitz_TR2	hi, PartyBoJo 
[08:56]	TR News	"developer Alyssa Rosenzweig has announced that the Panfrost driver for Mali GPUs..." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165695#comment-33912 https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/linux-panfrost-driver-for-mali-gpus-now-supports-the-new-valhall-architecture/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:56]	TR Bot	 Conformant open source support for Mali-G57 | Tux Machines
[08:56]	TR Bot	Panfrost driver for Mali GPUs now supports the new Valhall architecture | GamingOnLinux
[08:57]	TR News	"RimWorld on Steam Deck gets even better with the latest update" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/rimworld-has-another-upgrade-out-for-steam-deck-players/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:57]	TR Bot	has another upgrade out for Steam Deck players | GamingOnLinux
[08:57]	TR News	"For all the hype around the Steam Deck there is one major controversy with the fan." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/gamers-nexus-have-a-fascinating-look-at-the-steam-deck-fan-situation/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:57]	TR Bot	Nexus have a fascinating look at the Steam Deck fan situation | GamingOnLinux
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● Jun 08
[09:02]	TR News	Recent lessons from US mass shootings: if you phone the police, they might hang up on you. If they do dispatch, they will park outside until ammunition runs out. Unless you're very wealthy. The police isn't there to protect vulnerable people but to protect from them.
[09:04]	TR News	"California author Jean McCorquodale is under investigation from authorities following accusations that she plagiarized large passages of her high-priced government history book from Wikipedia and other sources." https://nypost.com/2022/06/07/ex-senators-wife-accused-of-plagiarizing-book-from-wikipedia/ | Source: NYPost
[09:04]	TR Bot	 Ex-senator's wife accused of plagiarizing book from Wikipedia
[09:05]	TR News	"Last Friday, the Annual General Members Meeting of AFRINIC was held at Le Mridien Hotel, Mauritius" https://sysadmin-journal.com/benjamin-eshun-appointed-as-chairman-afrinic-and-dr-abdalla-omari-vice-chairman/ | Source: Ish Sookun
[09:05]	TR Bot	 Benjamin Eshun appointed as Chairman & Dr. Abdalla Omari, Vice-Chairman of AFRINIC
[09:05]	TR News	[Old] "Like physical infrastructure, this digital infrastructure requires regular investment to further enable innovation, commerce, and a flourishing economy." https://www.brookings.edu/research/strengthening-digital-infrastructure-a-policy-agenda-for-free-and-open-source-software/ | Source: Brookings Institution
[09:05]	TR Bot	 Strengthening digital infrastructure: A policy agenda for free and open source software
[09:08]	TR News	"Boston Area Assange Defense and other local activists to protest Garlands speech over the continued prosecution of Julian Assange" https://www.laprogressive.com/the-media-in-the-united-states/harvard-students-protest-merrick-garland | Source: LA Progressive
[09:08]	TR Bot	 Harvard Students Protest Merrick Garlands Commencement Speech over Assange Prosecution - LA Progressive
[09:08]	TR News	"the reason Assange was dishevelled was that staff in the Ecuadorian embassy had confiscated his shaving gear three months before to ensure his appearance matched his stereotype when the arrest took place." https://theconversation.com/a-new-book-argues-julian-assange-is-being-tortured-will-our-new-pm-do-anything-about-it-183622 | Source: The Conversation
[09:08]	TR Bot	 A new book argues Julian Assange is being tortured. Will our new PM do anything about it?
[09:08]	TR News	"The World Socialist Web Site spoke this week to Gabriel Shipton, a film producer and brother of Julian Assange." https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/06/07/ivms-j07.html | Source: WSWS
[09:08]	TR Bot	 Australian Broadcasting Corporation televising <em>Ithaka: A fight to free Julian Assange</em> this week - World Socialist Web Site
[09:08]	TR News	"Julian Assange is an Australian citizen facing over 170 years in a US prison for revealing the truth about US war crimes" https://michaelwest.com.au/assange-is-still-in-jail-what-can-the-new-government-do/ | Source: Michael West Media
[09:08]	TR Bot	 Assange is still in jail - what can the new government do? - Michael West
[09:09]	TR News	"As journalists increasingly use social [CONTROL] media to get their stories out, they take on all the risks of the job themselves" https://www.dw.com/en/indias-independent-journalists-face-risks-lack-support/a-62053195 | Source: Deutsche Welle
[09:09]	TR Bot	Independent journalists take risks, lack support | Asia | An in-depth look at news from across the continent | DW | 07.06.2022
[09:10]	TR News	Games: Dome Keeper, GZDoom, RimWorld, Gamers Nexus Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165745
[09:10]	TR Bot	 Games: Dome Keeper, GZDoom, RimWorld, Gamers Nexus | Tux Machines
[09:12]	TR News	Install Fotoxx photo editor and manager on Ubuntu 20.04 | 22.04 LTS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165746
[09:12]	TR Bot	 Install Fotoxx photo editor and manager on Ubuntu 20.04 | 22.04 LTS | Tux Machines
[09:19]	TR News	Bullcrap. You let a malicious Pentagon contractor, Gulag, spy on your life. In exchange for nothing of practical use. https://www.maketecheasier.com/use-google-pay-track-spending-budgeting/
[09:19]	TR Bot	 How to Use Google Pay to Track Your Spending and Budget Your Money - Make Tech Easier
[09:26]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165747
[09:26]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[09:27]	TR News	2022 Talk by Richard Stallman About Free Software and Online Dis-Services | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/07/jeffrey-peterson-and-rms/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/07/jeffrey-peterson-and-rms/
[09:27]	TR Bot	 2022 Talk by Richard Stallman About Free Software and Online Dis-Services | Techrights
[09:30]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[09:42]	TR News	Links 07/06/2022: USB-C Causing Issues | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/08/usb-c-causing-issues/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/08/usb-c-causing-issues/
[09:42]	TR Bot	 Links 07/06/2022: USB-C Causing Issues | Techrights
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[09:42]	TR News	Proprietary Leftovers: Google, Apple, and Microsoft Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165748
[09:42]	TR Bot	 Proprietary Leftovers: Google, Apple, and Microsoft | Tux Machines
[09:43]	TR News	Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165749
[09:43]	TR Bot	 Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[09:43]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165750
[09:43]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[09:44]	TR News	Confident Fools gemini://dk.smol.pub/1654656377
[09:45]	TR News	Leave my quote lines alone gemini://idiomdrottning.org/thirty-six-seventy-six
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[09:46]	TR News	"gplaces 0.16.20 adds a new feature to gplaces: promptless search." gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/promptless-gemini.gmi
[09:46]	TR News	Void Linux on old hardware gemini://altesq.net/~masqq/gemlog/2022-06-08.gmi
[09:47]	TR News	The (negative) Richter scale gemini://altesq.net/~masqq/gemlog/2022-06-08-3.gmi
[09:47]	TR News	Book review: And Then There Were None gemini://altesq.net/~masqq/gemlog/2022-06-08-2.gmi
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[10:29]	TR News	IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, June 07, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/08/irc-log-070622/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/08/irc-log-070622/
[10:29]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, June 07, 2022 | Techrights
[10:29]	TR News	Ubuntu Users Get a Massive Linux Kernel Update, 35 Security Vulnerabilities Patched Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165751
[10:29]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu Users Get a Massive Linux Kernel Update, 35 Security Vulnerabilities Patched | Tux Machines
[10:33]	TR News	Cheap Oscilloscope Is Well Cheap https://hackaday.com/2022/06/07/cheap-oscilloscope-is-well-cheap/ | Source: Hackaday
[10:33]	TR Bot	Oscilloscope Is Well Cheap | Hackaday
[10:34]	TR News	"EU investigators want to set up a new information system for the exchange of digital evidence." https://digit.site36.net/2022/06/07/joint-investigation-teams-european-authorities-get-digital-cooperation-platform/ | Source: Site36
[10:34]	TR Bot	 Joint Investigation Teams: European authorities get digital cooperation platform Security Architectures in the EU
[10:39]	TR News	SweatshopZone https://truthout.org/articles/amazon-paid-its-ceo-6474-times-more-than-it-paid-its-median-worker-last-year/ | Source: TruthOut
[10:39]	TR Bot	 Amazon Paid Its CEO 6,474 Times More Than It Paid Its Median Worker Last Year
[10:40]	TR News	Like Microsoft, those companies exist by stealing from taxpayers https://truthout.org/articles/defense-contractors-are-using-tax-dollars-to-profit-off-war-in-ukraine/ | Source: TruthOut http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
[10:40]	TR Bot	 Defense Contractors Are Using Tax Dollars to Profit Off War in Ukraine
[10:40]	TR Bot	 The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
[10:41]	TR News	"Generally when we consider the many plants around us, we imagine them efficiently using the electromagnetic radiation from the Sun via photosynthesis" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/07/how-to-make-a-difference-through-plant-metabolism/ | Source: Hackaday
[10:41]	TR Bot	To Make A Difference Through Plant Metabolism | Hackaday
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[10:59]	TR News	"Nobody likes a tedious manual job prone to repetitive stress injury, and such tasks rightly inspire an automated solution." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/07/automate-parts-kitting-with-this-innovative-smd-tape-slicer/ | Source: Hackaday
[10:59]	TR Bot	Parts Kitting With This Innovative SMD Tape Slicer | Hackaday
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[11:00]	TR News	Paul Mason https://thegrayzone.com/2022/06/07/paul-masons-covert-intelligence-grayzone/ | Source: The Gray Zone
[11:00]	TR Bot	 Paul Mason's covert intelligence-linked plot to destroy The Grayzone exposed - The Grayzone
[11:00]	TR News	DRM https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/when-drm-comes-your-wheelchair | Source: EFF
[11:00]	TR Bot	 When DRM Comes For Your Wheelchair | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[11:00]	TR News	"Strike 3 Holdings has already filed over a thousand lawsuits against alleged BitTorrent pirates in U.S. courts this year" https://torrentfreak.com/copyright-troll-has-already-filed-over-1000-piracy-lawsuits-this-year-220607/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[11:01]	TR Bot	Troll Has Already Filed Over 1,000 Piracy Lawsuits This Year * TorrentFreak
[11:01]	TR News	"This version includes important security updates to Firefox" (JavaScript is shit) https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-11014/ | Source: Tor
[11:01]	TR Bot	 New Release: Tor Browser 11.0.14 (Android, Windows, macOS, Linux) | The Tor Project
[11:03]	TR News	Alaa Abd el-Fattah https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/alaa-abd-el-fattah-essays/ | Source: The Nation
[11:03]	TR Bot	 Alaa Abd el-Fattah and the Hope of a Generation | The Nation
[11:04]	TR News	Grifters exist under Biden too https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/pruitt-zinke-election/ | Source: The Nation http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
[11:04]	TR Bot	 Two of the Trump Eras Biggest Grifters Are Angling for a Comeback | The Nation
[11:05]	TR News	Graft isn't a "party" or "wing" issue in the US. Ignore the smokescreen. Both corporate parties are doing it.
[11:06]	TR News	"When someone mentions Las Vegas, a couple of things are likely to leap directly into your brain." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/07/licensing-troll-for-elvis-estate-seeks-to-shut-down-elvis-weddings-in-las-vegas/ | Source: Techdirt
[11:06]	TR Bot	Troll For Elvis Estate Seeks To Shut Down Elvis Weddings In Las Vegas | Techdirt
[11:06]	TR News	"The Los Angeles Sheriffs Department has long contended it has no gang problem." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/07/sheriff-who-claimed-he-would-clean-up-the-los-angeles-sheriffs-department-gang-problem-has-instead-allowed-it-to-thrive/ | Source: Techdirt
[11:06]	TR Bot	Who Claimed He Would Clean Up The Los Angeles Sheriffs Department Gang Problem Has Instead Allowed It To Thrive | Techdirt
[11:08]	TR News	"This week is Engines second annual Patent Quality Week, focused on the many ways that the patent system allows low-quality patents" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/07/techdirt-podcast-episode-323-why-patent-quality-matters/ | Source: Techdirt
[11:08]	TR Bot	Podcast Episode 323: Why Patent Quality Matters | Techdirt
[11:09]	TR News	Twitter is screwed. It is infested with bots. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/07/elon-trying-to-get-out-of-the-twitter-purchase-claiming-that-because-twitter-wont-share-private-info-it-has-breached-its-agreement/ see http://techrights.org/2022/05/14/fake-importance-of-twitter/
[11:09]	TR Bot	Trying To Get Out Of The Twitter Purchase, Claiming That Because Twitter Wont Share Private Info, It Has Breached Its Agreement | Techdirt
[11:09]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk is Right About Twitter Faking Its Importance and Using Doctored, Manipulated Stats (or Bots) to Boost Valuation Based on Lies | Techrights
[11:10]	TR News	Twitter is a dying, LOSING company (operates at a loss). No sane person would wish to BUY it.
[11:11]	TR News	Of course the criminals from Microsoft are the ones hoarding this data from Axon. Terror state. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/07/company-that-turned-excited-delirium-into-a-thing-thinks-it-can-solve-school-shootings-with-drone-mounted-tasers/ | Source: Techdirt
[11:11]	TR Bot	That Turned Excited Delirium Into A Thing Thinks It Can Prevent School Shootings With Drone-Mounted Tasers [UPDATED] | Techdirt
[11:12]	TR News	Section 230 https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/07/academic-paper-shows-how-badly-the-mainstream-media-misled-you-about-section-230/ | Source: Techdirt
[11:12]	TR Bot	Paper Shows How Badly The Mainstream Media Misled You About Section 230 | Techdirt
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[11:24]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/news/chicagocrime/death-of-offender-how-chicago-police-cleared-a-triple-murder-after-the-suspects-were-dead/
[11:24]	TR Bot	 Death of offender: How Chicago police cleared a triple murder after the suspects were dead | WGN-TV
[11:24]	DaemonFC	The police have an incentive to blame the murders on corpses that can't say anything in their own defense.
[11:25]	DaemonFC	That way they can "clear" their backlog without proving anything, arresting anyone, or having it be possible that they beat the charges in court.
[11:25]	TR News	US is not a place for Free speech https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/07/taibbi-democrats-and-republicans-have-one-thing-in-common-both-suck-on-free-speech/ | Source: Scheerpost
[11:25]	TR Bot	Democrats and Republicans Have One Thing in Common Both Suck on Free Speech scheerpost.com
[11:26]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/news/facing-huge-inventory-target-cuts-vendor-orders-prices/
[11:26]	TR Bot	 Facing huge inventory, Target cuts vendor orders, prices | WGN-TV
[11:26]	DaemonFC	"The actions come after a pronounced spending shift by Americans, from investments in their homes to money spent on travel, nights out for dinner, and dressier clothes, a change that arrived much faster than major retailers had anticipated."
[11:26]	DaemonFC	I don't know anybody with a home that they actually own.
[11:27]	DaemonFC	Much less anyone who is going out to dinner every night and buying fancy clothes with $6 Democrat gas.
[11:28]	DaemonFC	It just seems to me that with Biden and Pritzker's expensive gas (Pritzker alone increased the price more over the last two years than Vladimir Putin has via Ukraine), that this is crowding out other spend.
[11:28]	DaemonFC	In fact, restaurants are now in a worse spot than they were with COVID. You know how I know? They all raise their menu prices a lot and then put huge rebates in various apps and my credit card where you have to go looking and activate something.
[11:29]	DaemonFC	They're basically saying "If you care what the price to eat out is, you'll go looking for one of these rebates. If not, we're raising the price 18% this year.".
[11:31]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/news/aurora/aurora-pride-parade-in-jeopardy-over-lack-of-police-presence/
[11:31]	TR Bot	 Aurora Pride Parade in jeopardy over lack of police presence | WGN-TV
[11:31]	DaemonFC	"AURORA, Ill. Auroras Pride Parade is in danger of being canceled because not enough officers are available to work the event."
[11:31]	DaemonFC	Yeah, this was right after they said cops in uniform weren't welcome at the event.
[11:32]	DaemonFC	So LOL.
[11:35]	schestowitz_TR2	seems like another superspreader event
[11:35]	HJ	"At least one person was killed and several injured as a car crashed into a crowd in the western Berlin district of Charlottenburg, according to the emergency..."
[11:35]	schestowitz_TR2	when we went to the Manchester City parade people stormed us
[11:35]	schestowitz_TR2	wave of people
[11:35]	schestowitz_TR2	following the bus
[11:35]	schestowitz_TR2	and swarming 
[11:35]	schestowitz_TR2	so you could not feasible distance even a bit
[11:36]	schestowitz_TR2	*feasibly 
[11:36]	schestowitz_TR2	it was like a "BoJo  Party"
[11:36]	schestowitz_TR2	HJ: source?
[11:37]	HJ	dw.com
[11:37]	schestowitz_TR2	just now?
[11:37]	schestowitz_TR2	another car attack?
[11:37]	HJ	just had a phone call with my father
[11:38]	TR News	Boris Johnson against peace. He should have been arrested for his parties. And speaking of parties, why do we throw a party for the mother of Jeffrey Epstein's client? https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/07/boris-johnson-says-ukraine-should-not-accept-bad-peace-russia | Source: Common Dreams
[11:38]	TR Bot	 Boris Johnson Says Ukraine Should Not Accept 'Bad Peace' With Russia
[11:41]	HJ	or, could have been something else
[11:42]	TR News	"The Amazon Labor Union and Starbucks Workers United on Monday joined a growing coalition of unions and progressive advocacy groups" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/07/amazon-starbucks-unions-join-coalition-pushing-biden-go-big-student-debt-relief | Source: Common Dreams
[11:42]	TR Bot	 Amazon, Starbucks Unions Join Coalition Pushing Biden to Go Big on Student Debt Relief
[11:43]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/news/florida-2-year-old-fatally-shoots-father-mother-charged-report-says/
[11:43]	TR Bot	 Florida 2-year-old fatally shoots father; mother charged, report says | WGN-TV
[11:43]	DaemonFC	"Both were felons and were not allowed to have a gun."
[11:43]	DaemonFC	Ohhhh, the invisible force field erected by the gun law didn't work yet again.
[11:44]	DaemonFC	Well, the problem's half solved and they can't bring charges against the child.
[11:44]	HJ	told me, Goths, were celberating, at the graveyards
[11:45]	DaemonFC	George Carlin would probably be against anti-gun laws. He'd say "If all these people already aren't allowed to have one, then shouldn't the problem be solved by now?".
[11:45]	HJ	last night, bought a box of cigarettes at the local casino, and had a little chat with the bartender
[11:46]	DaemonFC	He'd go on to declare it one more problem the politicians are blowing each other over in a self-congratulatory victory party they've arranged for themselves, even with these increasingly shittier results.
[11:46]	HJ	totally crazy, explained he smoked corrosive chemicals, pulled back his lips, and showed his teeth had rotten from this
[11:46]	DaemonFC	Then he'd point out that if you wanted the problem solved, you wouldn't be letting them out every time they do it so they can do it again.
[11:46]	DaemonFC	So you must not want it solved that badly.
[11:47]	DaemonFC	If you imprison (for life) or execute on the first major offense, they won't be around to do it 10-15 more times before one of their fellow criminals finally plugs them as well.
[11:48]	DaemonFC	Then we'll have a country where the people who are not in front of a judge every few weeks will be allowed to own a gun in peace because they're not planning to do anything bad with it.
[11:48]	schestowitz_TR2	HJ: in berlin?
[11:48]	HJ	then i had seen some other one walking around the blocks, 4oclock in the morning
[11:49]	HJ	looked like C. Klar, although i wouldn't place all bets on this, it was this
[11:49]	DaemonFC	In the middle of shooting people each time they're out, they're also getting more single women pregnant and then bolting or going back to prison.
[11:49]	HJ	it's not the first time
[11:49]	DaemonFC	So you solve another problem too. They can fuck each other all they want in the prison shower.
[11:49]	schestowitz_TR2	DaemonFC: you're way off topic
[11:49]	schestowitz_TR2	using another channel for that
[11:50]	TR News	"Big Tech" is a Microsoft lobbying term. Quit using it. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/07/big-tech-mounting-big-money-fight-defeat-corporate-antitrust-bill | Source: Common Dreams
[11:50]	TR Bot	 Big Tech Mounting Big-Money Fight to Defeat to Corporate Antitrust Bill
[11:50]	DaemonFC	The media just won't say that there's bigger problems at work here.
[11:50]	DaemonFC	If the judges took care of these two assholes the first time there wouldn't be a kid and there wouldn't be a gun and there wouldn't be this story.
[11:51]	DaemonFC	For some reason they kept calling the "Judge Dredd Petition" satirical.
[11:51]	DaemonFC	I was absolutely serious.
[11:53]	HJ	in germany, the state, itself, is breeding it, terrorism
[11:53]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/cook-co-sheriff-demands-change-to-ammo-sales-regulations/
[11:53]	TR Bot	 Cook Co. Sheriff demands change to ammo sales regulations | WGN-TV
[11:53]	DaemonFC	"According to sheriffs numbers, in Cook County alone, nearly 20,000 revoked FOID cards have yet to be turned in."
[11:53]	HJ	few minutes later, this state places it's propaganda bidges on TV screen, with their smirking visages
[11:54]	HJ	bitches
[11:54]	DaemonFC	So? You have to call it in every time they try to buy a gun with it and if it's not valid you can't get a transaction approval ID number from the State Police.
[11:54]	DaemonFC	And the police will know it's invalid when they run the card.
[11:54]	DaemonFC	That's like trying to scare people saying there's people with revoked driver's licenses that still have the physical card.
[11:56]	HJ	anyway, the box of cigarettes i bought at the local casino, this alone was a terror attack against the lungs
[11:56]	DaemonFC	Tom Dart is an activist and part of the reason Cook County is as screwed up as it is.
[11:56]	HJ	don't know, how a german customs office tax stamp made it onto the box
[11:56]	DaemonFC	It's hard to get in an apartment there because if they have to evict you later, the Sheriff will take 3 years to get you out and the landlord just has to watch and let you do it.
[11:57]	DaemonFC	It's not hard to get an apartment in Indiana. Half of them don't even run your credit, because they know if you don't pay and won't get out, it goes from notice, to eviction court, to Sheriff in like 2-3 weeks.
[11:58]	DaemonFC	How easy it is to evict is probably the number one determining factor in how easy it is to rent a place.
[11:58]	DaemonFC	If it's going to take years to get non-payers out, landlords scrutinize everything on your credit report.
[11:59]	DaemonFC	They'd rather get the odds of a non-payer who won't leave from 5-6% to 0.5%-0.6% because if it happens a lot, they're screwed.
[11:59]	HJ	i asked my father this question: why couldn't i afford to rent some office space for work
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[12:00]	HJ	of cause i am willing to listen, for a reasonable explantion
[12:00]	DaemonFC	Probably you live somewhere like Cook County where there's associations that help you stifle your landlord while you're not paying him and he's jacking up the rent on everyone else to compensate.
[12:01]	HJ	some office space, in MY OWN homeland
[12:02]	HJ	i was rated grade A, by university, got granted a traineeship in Vienna, was asked if i would want to visit university there
[12:02]	HJ	nonetheless, i could not afford some tiny office space in MY OWN homeland... why is that?
[12:03]	HJ	1990, that's thirthy years now... a long time
[12:03]	DaemonFC	I don't know. Politicians probably. That's what it is here.
[12:03]	DaemonFC	The people not paying the rent who won't get out and are busy doing drive by shootings have th run of the place around here.
[12:03]	DaemonFC	The Sheriff is one of those liberals worried about their mental health and if society is treating them gingerly enough.
[12:04]	HJ	i got no money to pay rent, i only got my hands and brain to WORK
[12:04]	HJ	anyway
[12:05]	DaemonFC	Everyone gets to suffer when those people take over the government.
[12:05]	DaemonFC	The landlords get skeptical of everyone.
[12:05]	DaemonFC	And treat everyone who applies for an apartment like they're fucking Jeffery Dahmer.
[12:06]	DaemonFC	Going over their credit. Seeing if a medical bill that nobody in Indiana would even care about ever got away from them.
[12:06]	HJ	my maths skills weren't the best, nonetheless, they were _competitive_
[12:06]	HJ	internationally
[12:06]	DaemonFC	People like my mom were using collection agencies as a way to LOWER their medical bills.
[12:07]	HJ	i mean, i could do a fourier transform on a dirac impulse, and explain, why limes of dt->0 blew up
[12:07]	DaemonFC	She'd wait for it to go to collections and offer than 70% of face value, thinking she got a good deal.
[12:07]	DaemonFC	I told her "Never offer them much more than half. They didn't even pay half for it so if you offer them half, they usually take it.".
[12:07]	HJ	besides, a shitload of telco protocol stuff, programming, electronics, hardware circuitry... three for this
[12:08]	HJ	i mean, today my father, goths were celebrating, at the graveyard of my grandfather
[12:08]	DaemonFC	That's all this economy is, is people making shit up.
[12:08]	DaemonFC	You go to the hospital and a doctor walks by and asks how you're doing. Bills you $800.
[12:08]	DaemonFC	Nurse walks by and hands you an ibuprofen, $100.
[12:09]	DaemonFC	That's one reason the hospitals charge so much. They figure that most bills over a certain size will probably go to collections. If they can get 30% and make more than it cost them, they're good.
[12:10]	HJ	this morning, watched EU parliament debate, i mean... this type of intellect, it simply escapes
[12:10]	HJ	mine
[12:10]	DaemonFC	It's not for you.
[12:10]	HJ	hoping for, an answer, why i could not afford some tiny office space in MY OWN HOMELOAND
[12:10]	DaemonFC	The politicians are not doing things for you, they are doing things to you.
[12:10]	DaemonFC	I hope that clears things up.
[12:10]	HJ	"they", swapped currency twice already
[12:10]	DaemonFC	Most people don't know that. They think the politicians are solving problems.
[12:11]	HJ	i mean, i held in my hands, Reichsmark
[12:11]	HJ	that's not an official one anymore, to "appease"
[12:12]	HJ	sadly, after 1990, all military capabilities were dismantled
[12:12]	HJ	otherwise
[12:12]	HJ	i mean, if i got access to any of it, what east germany manufactured, all the goodies
[12:12]	HJ	because, we had everything
[12:13]	HJ	and they knew it, they only could loot and rob and plunder, if we dismantled, and we did
[12:14]	HJ	and since then, i could not afford to rent some tiniest little office lab space in MY OWN HOMELAND
[12:14]	HJ	so, please, explain to me
[12:16]	HJ	instead, my father tells me, Goths, are celebrating, barbecue, at my grandfathers grave
[12:17]	HJ	and I, myself? i got nothing to pull the trigger, after thirty years
[12:17]	schestowitz_TR2	goths?
[12:17]	schestowitz_TR2	I knew one german goth
[12:18]	schestowitz_TR2	and she was nice
[12:18]	schestowitz_TR2	the appearance isn't everything
[12:18]	schestowitz_TR2	also, many people with tattoo are quite nice
[12:19]	HJ	why couldn't I "afford" some tiny little office lab space in MY OWN HOMELAND?
[12:20]	HJ	30years, that's a long time; add to this... my grandfather didn't ask for being drafted into hitler youth
[12:20]	HJ	nor did my other grandrather ask to die in stalingrad, and i never met him
[12:20]	schestowitz_TR2	there is competition
[12:21]	HJ	globalized economony got sufficient office space for their own
[12:21]	schestowitz_TR2	over resources
[12:21]	schestowitz_TR2	right
[12:21]	schestowitz_TR2	but some people hoard the resources
[12:21]	schestowitz_TR2	if you think you have it bad, look at really poor countries
[12:21]	schestowitz_TR2	they share rooms
[12:22]	HJ	_my_ homeland, not theirs
[12:22]	HJ	they decide about their economy, i decide about mine
[12:22]	schestowitz_TR2	I turned our dining area into an office
[12:23]	HJ	problem is this, they do not understand any other language than which is written with blood
[12:23]	schestowitz_TR2	if you work against the system, theyw ill leave you behind
[12:23]	schestowitz_TR2	so you must work extra hard
[12:23]	schestowitz_TR2	if you do not obey the system
[12:23]	schestowitz_TR2	to compensate 
[12:23]	HJ	MY HOMELAND
[12:23]	HJ	i want them to get the f*** out
[12:24]	HJ	i do NOT need them
[12:24]	HJ	i do NOT want them
[12:24]	schestowitz_TR2	that's you
[12:24]	DaemonFC	I was reading about humans in ancient times and what they had to deal with.
[12:24]	schestowitz_TR2	others do not agree
[12:24]	DaemonFC	People today complain about everything, but get this....
[12:24]	schestowitz_TR2	life today is, on average, easier
[12:25]	schestowitz_TR2	than say 100 years ago
[12:25]	HJ	it isn't
[12:25]	DaemonFC	In ancient Rome, when you used the toilet, you had to share a "sponge on a stick" sitting in salt or vinegar water, with the entire town.
[12:25]	schestowitz_TR2	life improves and gets longer
[12:25]	schestowitz_TR2	BECAUSE people tyr ot make it better
[12:25]	HJ	and thanks to them, education and science are clusterfuced and chaos
[12:25]	schestowitz_TR2	the problem is when people stop trying to make it better
[12:25]	DaemonFC	Could you imagine going into the bathroom at the Waukegan Walmart and having to share a spong on a stick sitting in vinegar water, with all of Waukegan, to wipe your ass?
[12:26]	DaemonFC	Because nobody had come up with anything better since the Romans...
[12:26]	schestowitz_TR2	DaemonFC: and back we go to shit-talk :-)
[12:26]	schestowitz_TR2	DaemonFC: write a SHELL script
[12:26]	DaemonFC	"Wealthy Romans could buy their own personal sponge on a stick."
[12:26]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR2, If you do well you too can have your own sponge stick some day.
[12:27]	DaemonFC	It's part of being in the middle class.
[12:27]	schestowitz_TR2	plumbing has made life a lot easier
[12:27]	HJ	simple, my homeland is small, i only want that back, what is mine, they can have 99,9999% of the rest and label it theirs
[12:27]	schestowitz_TR2	germany is not smalkl
[12:27]	schestowitz_TR2	the population has long been very big
[12:27]	schestowitz_TR2	compare to norway
[12:27]	HJ	germany does not exist anymore, and germanyh is not my home
[12:28]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR2, People who complain that they don't have a television in every room should have to use a communal sponge stick restroom until they stop complaining.
[12:28]	schestowitz_TR2	you want a germany that has not existed in ages
[12:28]	DaemonFC	I'd make that a law if I could.
[12:28]	schestowitz_TR2	germany was destroyed and built as a new entity
[12:28]	DaemonFC	"Scrub scrub scrub!"
[12:28]	HJ	until 1990, russian solders, several thousands of them, remained, and protected
[12:28]	schestowitz_TR2	DaemonFC: right, I agree
[12:29]	schestowitz_TR2	I had this long discussion with a friend a long time ago
[12:29]	schestowitz_TR2	a trip to the museaum shows you waht life was like before
[12:29]	schestowitz_TR2	even for a "better off" family
[12:29]	HJ	after 1990, they left; nowadays, i wish, they returned, and pushed forward to Brussels
[12:29]	schestowitz_TR2	Russia-0occupied east Germany sucked
[12:29]	schestowitz_TR2	so much that people attempted to escalpes it
[12:29]	schestowitz_TR2	and risked their lives
[12:30]	HJ	i mean, hopefully, they return, and liberate us
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[12:30]	schestowitz_TR2	Putin does not liberate even his own population
[12:30]	DaemonFC	They start advertising toilet paper and the ad goes "If you switch from corn cobs, straw, and the Sears catalog, you won't get so many splinters.".
[12:30]	schestowitz_TR2	let alone yours
[12:30]	schestowitz_TR2	and ask Poles how they feel about being liberated by putin
[12:30]	HJ	it wasn't Putin at fault
[12:30]	schestowitz_TR2	because to get to germany he must take poland first
[12:30]	HJ	it wasn't hime
[12:31]	HJ	didn't expect anything, it's only good, if he is there, where he is neededc
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[12:31]	schestowitz_TR2	Germany and Stalin's Russia killed like 10 million peoplee between themeslves
[12:31]	schestowitz_TR2	don't romanticise that
[12:31]	HJ	"EU" killed many more
[12:31]	schestowitz_TR2	more than 10 millin?
[12:31]	HJ	since 1990
[12:31]	HJ	for sure, yes
[12:32]	DaemonFC	Yeah, I mean, things aren't going so well right now, but most people have "something" to eat, which is a lot better than what was going on in Post-1917 Russia or the Communist uprising in China.
[12:32]	schestowitz_TR2	btw, german immigration predates eu
[12:32]	schestowitz_TR2	and also, m,any germans "occupy" other places
[12:32]	schestowitz_TR2	like south america
[12:32]	DaemonFC	And people are hoarding Charmin, not using handfuls of straw and the communal shit stick.
[12:32]	HJ	"many"
[12:33]	schestowitz_TR2	anyway, put it in #techpol
[12:33]	schestowitz_TR2	let's focus on tech in #techrights
[12:33]	schestowitz_TR2	you already cased a mass kicking the other week
[12:33]	HJ	ok. i want to rent some office lab space
[12:33]	HJ	to do my job
[12:33]	schestowitz_TR2	by setting "founder" status and then self-deleting
[12:33]	schestowitz_TR2	which cassed quite a scene
[12:34]	schestowitz_TR2	HJ: what job? Making an OS?
[12:34]	schestowitz_TR2	an OS without back doors?
[12:34]	DaemonFC	I didn't cause anything?
[12:34]	HJ	no, i only want some system to work with, to do the real work
[12:34]	schestowitz_TR2	DaemonFC: not you
[12:34]	schestowitz_TR2	HJ
[12:34]	DaemonFC	Immigration is always a thorny issue.
[12:35]	HJ	one example being, to practice a little, this one: typeset a limes dt->0 on a fourier transform of a dirac impulse
[12:35]	schestowitz_TR2	Putin won't liberate Germans
[12:35]	DaemonFC	Especially in well integrated societies who build upwards and have things.
[12:35]	HJ	just some little practice, and typesetting this
[12:35]	schestowitz_TR2	and maybe 5% of germans would subscribe to such a belief
[12:35]	DaemonFC	And then they get invaded and told to like it by people who are a box of rocks who never did anything in their own country and won't speak the language.
[12:35]	schestowitz_TR2	merkel speaks russian
[12:36]	schestowitz_TR2	not because she wanted to
[12:36]	HJ	what does this mean, if a dirac impulse approaches dt->0... just for fun, and it is some maths at the bottom of the skill set i HAD
[12:36]	DaemonFC	The EU was a disaster from the start, not because they're going through anything as bad as the Mexican+ invasion of the United States.
[12:36]	schestowitz_TR2	and you tell me "home land"
[12:36]	HJ	up until, i was "liberated"
[12:36]	schestowitz_TR2	when merkel speaks russian
[12:36]	HJ	merkel is a traitor
[12:36]	HJ	a foreign agent
[12:36]	DaemonFC	But because it integrates countries that have less with ones that have more, and not all of them speak the same languages, but now they can just move into yours and say they're here and nobody can do anything.
[12:37]	schestowitz_TR2	If they find work
[12:37]	schestowitz_TR2	otherwise they go back where they grok the language
[12:37]	HJ	anyway, that's fun, what does a limes dt->0 on a fourier transform of a dirac impulse represent...
[12:37]	schestowitz_TR2	anyway, put that ijn #techpol
[12:37]	schestowitz_TR2	not here
[12:37]	DaemonFC	If they find work and take care of themselves I don't care much that they're here.
[12:37]	schestowitz_TR2	it's just putting off-topic stuff here
[12:37]	DaemonFC	The USCIS is a fucking mess.
[12:37]	HJ	no that's thech, what is it?
[12:37]	schestowitz_TR2	and associates the channelw ith AfD policies
[12:37]	DaemonFC	They equate the Philippines with Mexico.
[12:37]	DaemonFC	And it's not the same thing.
[12:38]	schestowitz_TR2	psos
[12:38]	schestowitz_TR2	psesos
[12:38]	schestowitz_TR2	pesos
[12:38]	DaemonFC	At least most of the people from the Philippines come here to find work, not problems.
[12:38]	schestowitz_TR2	gaddamn
[12:38]	DaemonFC	I noticed they're easily amused. We have plumbing and dentistry.
[12:38]	DaemonFC	Elections, even!
[12:38]	DaemonFC	Not good elections, but elections.
[12:39]	DaemonFC	Not "elections" where it's "Bongbong".
[12:39]	HJ	next question, with the skills i had, why couldn't I afford some tiniest lab space at least?
[12:39]	HJ	and, i got proof, for _everything_
[12:39]	schestowitz_TR2	you still have skils
[12:40]	schestowitz_TR2	but your politics are peroblematic
[12:40]	schestowitz_TR2	they would impede collaboration with some colleagues
[12:40]	HJ	i am close to having another phone call
[12:40]	HJ	ring ring bang
[12:40]	schestowitz_TR2	you can be against the system
[12:40]	schestowitz_TR2	but to a degreew
[12:40]	HJ	sadly, my abilities, are limited
[12:40]	schestowitz_TR2	you ned to work within the system
[12:40]	DaemonFC	Yeah, you know, if you want to work somewhere it's better not to bring up religion and politics there.
[12:41]	schestowitz_TR2	ranting less about people based on where they came from
[12:41]	DaemonFC	Don't shit where you sleep.
[12:41]	schestowitz_TR2	or pretending Putin wants what's good for germany
[12:41]	DaemonFC	It's the same concept.
[12:41]	HJ	putin is a friend of germany
[12:41]	HJ	he still is
[12:41]	HJ	problem is, "germany"
[12:42]	TR News	"Lets Agree to Disagree" https://www.projectcensored.org/the-project-censored-newsletter-june-2022/ | Source: Project Censored
[12:42]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/the-project-censored-newsletter-june-2022/ )
[12:42]	DaemonFC	I don't get why people become hostile and try to convert others when it comes to religion.
[12:42]	TR News	"Web of Make Believe: Death, Lies & the Internet" https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/06/krebsonsecurity-in-new-netflix-series-on-cybercrime/ | Source: Krebs On Security
[12:42]	TR Bot	in New Netflix Series on Cybercrime Krebs on Security
[12:42]	DaemonFC	Doesn't everyone have enough on their own plate?
[12:42]	TR News	"Corrections in Ink" https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/7/corrections_in_ink_reporter_keri_blakinge | Source: Democracy Now
[12:42]	TR Bot	 Corrections in Ink: Keri Blakinger on Her Journey from Addiction to Cornell to Prison to Newsroom | Democracy Now!
[12:42]	DaemonFC	I know I do.
[12:43]	HJ	Russia and Ukraine were giving away wheat for free
[12:43]	DaemonFC	Mandy noticed that brown egg sales are going way up.
[12:43]	schestowitz_TR2	<DaemonFC> I don't get why people become hostile and try to convert others when it comes to religion.
[12:43]	schestowitz_TR2	tribalism
[12:43]	schestowitz_TR2	and the tribe rewards them for new recruits
[12:44]	HJ	"soviet union", putin said, it was the biggest tragedy, when it failed
[12:44]	HJ	no soviet union, no corn for free
[12:44]	DaemonFC	Whatever's screwing up the supply is hitting brown eggs less, so they've actually become much cheaper. I don't get it. They're all birds. Why aren't the ones laying brown eggs getting this alleged flu.
[12:44]	HJ	how difficult is this, to comprehend?
[12:44]	schestowitz_TR2	HJ: MinceR  won't agree with you
[12:44]	schestowitz_TR2	nor would romanians, moldovans, poles...
[12:44]	schestowitz_TR2	esp. not baltic states
[12:44]	HJ	Putin was providing baltic states with gas for free
[12:45]	DaemonFC	There's no bird flu. They just want to gouge you for chickens while producing less.
[12:45]	DaemonFC	That's my theory.
[12:45]	DaemonFC	It's like the oil companies. They could produce more, but why?
[12:45]	schestowitz_TR2	[08:34] <techrights-news> lithuania https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/1711669/new-desovietisation-law-takes-aim-at-lithuania-s-remaining-soviet-era-signs
[12:45]	TR Bot	 New desovietisation law takes aim at Lithuanias remaining Soviet-era signs - LRT
[12:45]	DaemonFC	They can sell you 30% less for the same amount of money.
[12:46]	DaemonFC	They could produce as much oil as you could ever want, but it wouldn't be logical from their perspective.
[12:46]	HJ	and this is the difference, between "EU" and "UN" and "USA", and Russia... the russians did supply, for free
[12:47]	HJ	so, whatever "they" say, "EU", "USA", "UN", russian/putin did supply, anyone else did NOT
[12:47]	HJ	instead, i could not afford some tiniest office space in my own homeland occupied by EU/USA/whoever they are
[12:47]	DaemonFC	I hate this season.
[12:48]	HJ	for thirty years! and THIS, is WAR!!!
[12:48]	DaemonFC	It goes straight from winter to swamp.
[12:48]	schestowitz_TR2	it was not supplied for free
[12:48]	schestowitz_TR2	maybe to belarus
[12:48]	schestowitz_TR2	to stay out of nato, eu...
[12:48]	schestowitz_TR2	russia is being paid for it
[12:48]	HJ	so, if Putin got, what i need, i would grab it, and pull the trigger
[12:48]	schestowitz_TR2	and has in fact hoarded some of the produce of these nations
[12:48]	schestowitz_TR2	ask ukrainians about the famine there and why stalin did it to them
[12:49]	schestowitz_TR2	if putin saw you in a battlefiend, he would pull the trigger
[12:49]	schestowitz_TR2	*battlefield
[12:49]	schestowitz_TR2	putin doesn't care about you
[12:49]	HJ	i want back my home, my office, my lab
[12:50]	schestowitz_TR2	if you want liberation from the west, don't run to putin
[12:50]	schestowitz_TR2	putin is no better, he's not "freund"
[12:50]	HJ	putin, didn't rob loot and plunder, it was "EU"/"USA"/whoever
[12:50]	HJ	so, at least, concerning this, i know where to aim at
[12:50]	schestowitz_TR2	putin won't give you anything
[12:50]	schestowitz_TR2	he barely gives anything to russians
[12:51]	schestowitz_TR2	except coffins for a one-way trip
[12:51]	schestowitz_TR2	with zinc in it
[12:53]	DaemonFC	https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9583
[12:53]	TR Bot	 WineHQ Bugzilla Bug 9583 CompareStringW gives incorrect result for some wide strings
[12:53]	TR News	Starbucks https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/07/anti-labor-starbucks-getting-wrecked-memphis-workers-win-latest-union-drive | Source: Common Dreams
[12:53]	TR Bot	 Anti-Labor Starbucks 'Getting Wrecked' as Memphis Workers Win Latest Union Drive
[12:53]	DaemonFC	"So it seems to be much better. Bear and wheelbarrow are no longer same word..."
[12:53]	DaemonFC	LOL
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[12:54]	schestowitz_TR2	Memphis!!!
[12:54]	schestowitz_TR2	banned!
[12:54]	bnchs	alright
[12:55]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR2, Who buys Starbucks anymore?
[12:56]	DaemonFC	I just bought an entire case of Colombian Roast Eight O'Clock from Amazon Warehouse Deals.
[12:56]	DaemonFC	You can get coffee that's coming up on its date or something which still tastes perfectly fine and get like 30-40% off on it.
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● Jun 08
[13:00]	schestowitz_TR2	DaemonFC: sf/bay area
[13:00]	schestowitz_TR2	and people pretending to be rich
[13:00]	HJ	you know the difference? between USA and Germany?
[13:00]	schestowitz_TR2	DaemonFC: here we get coffee quite cheap
[13:01]	schestowitz_TR2	I brew some at this very moment
[13:01]	schestowitz_TR2	HJ: huge difference
[13:01]	HJ	what is it?
[13:01]	schestowitz_TR2	in us they call yyou may-kel, in germany mi-kha-il
[13:01]	schestowitz_TR2	like the russian version, almost..
[13:02]	HJ	USA had _never_ been hit on their own soil during war
[13:02]	schestowitz_TR2	and in berlin we went to us food chains
[13:02]	schestowitz_TR2	they're all over the place
[13:02]	schestowitz_TR2	"a taste of us"
[13:02]	HJ	even within germany, it was a minority of the population
[13:02]	schestowitz_TR2	USA loves to fight on other nation's ground
[13:02]	schestowitz_TR2	it's strategically located, too
[13:02]	HJ	this is the difference
[13:03]	schestowitz_TR2	poles worry their country, which took ages to rebuild, will become the net ukraine
[13:03]	schestowitz_TR2	bombed by putler
[13:03]	schestowitz_TR2	*next
[13:03]	HJ	and somehow, i feel, UK had not received the lecture it needed
[13:03]	schestowitz_TR2	UK was bombed by Germans
[13:03]	HJ	just as said, the problem, i have...
[13:03]	schestowitz_TR2	even buildings neat me
[13:03]	HJ	east-germany dismantled
[13:03]	schestowitz_TR2	destroyed by luftwaffe
[13:03]	HJ	otherwise, i would pull ALL triggers i have
[13:04]	schestowitz_TR2	hitler wanted war
[13:04]	schestowitz_TR2	got his country down to bubble
[13:04]	schestowitz_TR2	live and learn
[13:04]	schestowitz_TR2	he wanted to invade every place
[13:05]	HJ	enough
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[13:08]	schestowitz_TR2	OK
[13:08]	schestowitz_TR2	Japan got nuked, twice, for wanting the same thing
[13:08]	DaemonFC	Yeah, I started using a "K-Cup" machine again, but it's a Walmart brand that was like $20 and has a reusable filter basket. I don't buy pods.
[13:08]	DaemonFC	$1 a pod, OMG
[13:08]	DaemonFC	Kiss my ass.
[13:09]	schestowitz_TR2	if germany was "asia", it too would get nuked
[13:09]	schestowitz_TR2	but it was "white"
[13:09]	DaemonFC	I can fill it myself for like 4 cents?
[13:09]	schestowitz_TR2	4 cents is a lot
[13:09]	DaemonFC	Those pods aren't cheap and people be like "At least it isn't Starbucks, LOL!".
[13:09]	schestowitz_TR2	I just got a litre of coffee
[13:09]	DaemonFC	Oh 3 or 4 cents if that.
[13:09]	schestowitz_TR2	the power costs about 5 pencre
[13:09]	schestowitz_TR2	*pence
[13:09]	DaemonFC	Actually...
[13:09]	schestowitz_TR2	for 1 litre
[13:10]	schestowitz_TR2	DaemonFC: over here, starbucks does not even have a ceiling
[13:10]	schestowitz_TR2	it's new age BS
[13:10]	schestowitz_TR2	like pupes and shafts in the open
[13:10]	schestowitz_TR2	with some metallic insulation thing around them
[13:10]	schestowitz_TR2	and they call THAT "ambiance"
[13:11]	schestowitz_TR2	finish your goddamn store... it's missing a ceiling!
[13:11]	DaemonFC	Hmm, so per 6 ounce cup it's actually about 16 cents. Yikes.
[13:11]	DaemonFC	Eh, things cost so much these days it depresses you to even look.
[13:11]	DaemonFC	I make like 12 ounces worth at a time, so like 32 cents?
[13:11]	TR News	openSUSE Leap 15.4 Officially Released, This Is Whats New Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165752
[13:11]	TR Bot	 openSUSE Leap 15.4 Officially Released, This Is What's New | Tux Machines
[13:11]	TR News	MYIR MYC-J1028X CPU module features NXP LS1028A dual Cortex-A72 SoC with time-sensitive networking (TSN) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165753
[13:11]	TR Bot	 MYIR MYC-J1028X CPU module features NXP LS1028A dual Cortex-A72 SoC with time-sensitive networking (TSN) | Tux Machines
[13:11]	DaemonFC	Still, not K-Cups. They're charging like $1 each for those. It's ridiculous.
[13:12]	DaemonFC	And yeah, it isn't Starbucks, but it still costs 3x as much as using ground coffee, for a given amount.
[13:12]	schestowitz_TR2	the '"luxury" market for foods
[13:12]	DaemonFC	The single serve refillable pods are the way to go these days.
[13:12]	schestowitz_TR2	people who wrongly assume they'r worth what the ppayslip said 5 years ago
[13:12]	DaemonFC	No waste, but you get the same unit price as anyone else that uses ground coffee.
[13:13]	schestowitz_TR2	DaemonFC: more disposable garbage
[13:13]	DaemonFC	You don't throw away the reusable pod.
[13:13]	schestowitz_TR2	still
[13:13]	DaemonFC	You dump the spent grounds into the trash and rinse it.
[13:13]	schestowitz_TR2	right
[13:13]	schestowitz_TR2	sorry, I missed "refillable"
[13:14]	DaemonFC	Well, let's say someone drinks coffee twice a day because they're like me and they're horrendously addicted to the stuff.
[13:14]	DaemonFC	Using those disposable K-Cups will cost an extra $481.80 per year.
[13:14]	DaemonFC	So it's quite ridiculous.
[13:15]	DaemonFC	That's like forking over three quarts of a week's pay at Walmart just so you can get coffee in a disposable plastic cup.
[13:15]	DaemonFC	*three quarters
[13:15]	DaemonFC	Oh they love to promote wasting money on "convenience".
[13:16]	DaemonFC	Which is more effort? Dumping out and rinsing a coffee basket or going to work like almost 4 extra days that year to pay for K-Cups?
[13:17]	schestowitz_TR2	it takes practice
[13:17]	schestowitz_TR2	over time you more efficiently do the tasks
[13:17]	schestowitz_TR2	wshing, emptying, replacing etc.,
[13:17]	schestowitz_TR2	there's now a plastic container where I dump the used poweder to be used in the garden later
[13:18]	schestowitz_TR2	maintenance was a pain at first and you get used to all the knobs and bobs
[13:18]	DaemonFC	Yeah, spent coffee is still useful for composting.
[13:18]	DaemonFC	Very nitrogen-rich.
[13:18]	schestowitz_TR2	same for boiling water on the hob
[13:18]	schestowitz_TR2	it gets easier as you adapt and then electric kettles lose their appeal
[13:18]	schestowitz_TR2	with the job you can 'slow-boil'
[13:18]	schestowitz_TR2	*hob
[13:18]	DaemonFC	I was looking at an observational study and it said coffee drinkers had a 30% lower risk of death during the study period than non-coffee drinkers.
[13:19]	DaemonFC	And I was wondering if this was a fluke or there's some reason why.
[13:19]	schestowitz_TR2	maybe coffee drinkers were of different groups
[13:19]	schestowitz_TR2	maybe the s'study' was marketing
[13:19]	schestowitz_TR2	they do the same for wine
[13:19]	DaemonFC	It's possible.
[13:20]	DaemonFC	Antioxidants, they say.
[13:20]	DaemonFC	Eliminates free radicals.
[13:20]	schestowitz_TR2	poor people who east chesper and unhealthy foods do not sip coffee much
[13:20]	schestowitz_TR2	*eat
[13:20]	schestowitz_TR2	people live longer based on genetics
[13:20]	schestowitz_TR2	and stress
[13:20]	schestowitz_TR2	it's not all about diet
[13:21]	schestowitz_TR2	that's like telling you, people who scare high on exams
[13:21]	DaemonFC	Tonight I'm making chicken and penne pasta with sun dried tomatoes in oil and spinach, with a parmesan cheese sauce. I mean, like, it's not the healthiest thing in the world.
[13:21]	schestowitz_TR2	just sleep more
[13:21]	DaemonFC	Our diet isn't.
[13:21]	schestowitz_TR2	and eat better
[13:21]	DaemonFC	I like pasta and I make pasta a lot.
[13:21]	schestowitz_TR2	so you get a bunch of fools making wrong assumptions on how to prepare
[13:21]	schestowitz_TR2	or "pray  more"
[13:21]	DaemonFC	I don't give a rat's ass about carbs. Every decade it's something.
[13:21]	schestowitz_TR2	people who are religious do better in college
[13:21]	DaemonFC	Cholesterol, fats, carbs.....
[13:21]	schestowitz_TR2	that does not mean the religion makes therm better performers
[13:22]	DaemonFC	Then they get to the end and they say it was bullshit and you were eating fucking margarine for no reason.
[13:22]	DaemonFC	Carbs and gluten are going to be the same thing in the end.
[13:23]	DaemonFC	I was talking cooking with mom. I told her I prefer margarine on toast over butter for the taste, but if you use it in cooking it almost always ruins your recipe.
[13:23]	TR News	Those buybacks should be considered a crime; buybacks are embezzlement https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/07/low-wage-american-taxpayers-spent-billions-inflating-ceo-pay-through-stock-buybacks | Source: Common Dreams
[13:23]	DaemonFC	So I don't want to buy margarine just for toast or bagels, so I use butter on everything since I have some anyway.
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[13:24]	TR News	Linux for Starters: Your Guide to Linux - Extend your Desktop - Part 22 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165754
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[13:24]	TR News	Rufus for Linux? Here Are the Best Live USB Creating Tools Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165755
[13:24]	TR Bot	 Rufus for Linux? Here Are the Best Live USB Creating Tools | Tux Machines
[13:24]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR2, There's almost no gain in not having a 401(k).
[13:24]	TR News	u-blox XPLR-IOT-1 explorer kit embeds cellular IoT, Wi-Fi, BLE, GNSS, and sensors for IoT evaluation Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165756
[13:24]	TR Bot	 u-blox XPLR-IOT-1 explorer kit embeds cellular IoT, Wi-Fi, BLE, GNSS, and sensors for IoT evaluation | Tux Machines
[13:24]	DaemonFC	The government pretty much pays lower income workers to put money into one and they get to keep the money from the tax credit on top of what they've saved.
[13:25]	schestowitz_TR2	we shall see what happpens to pension funds
[13:25]	schestowitz_TR2	inflation already deflates them
[13:26]	DaemonFC	In addition to not owing any income tax on the tax-deferred contribution that year, it can lower your income and get you to qualify for a tax credit of 50% of the face value, and your employer matches.
[13:26]	schestowitz_TR2	devalued by process
[13:26]	MinceR	o see the ruscists are coming out of the woodwork again
[13:26]	DaemonFC	So like, you screw yourself out of $250 for every $100 you take right now.
[13:26]	DaemonFC	Not counting any potential growth of investment.
[13:26]	DaemonFC	That's just the employer match and SAVERS Credit.
[13:26]	schestowitz_TR2	MinceR: it was Ackermann again
[13:26]	schestowitz_TR2	with a new name
[13:27]	TR News	How I gave my old laptop new life with the Linux Xfce desktop Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165757
[13:27]	TR Bot	 How I gave my old laptop new life with the Linux Xfce desktop | Tux Machines
[13:28]	schestowitz_TR2	DaemonFC: the employer contribution if the sole upsdie
[13:28]	DaemonFC	You should aim to take the employer match -and- max out the value of the credit up to $1,000, whichever ends up being more.
[13:28]	schestowitz_TR2	not tax breaks
[13:28]	schestowitz_TR2	to the employer it is worth it as "labourr lockin"
[13:28]	schestowitz_TR2	if you leave, it gives you extra hassle
[13:28]	schestowitz_TR2	*labourer
[13:29]	schestowitz_TR2	but wven i the same employer is can be complex
[13:29]	DaemonFC	Not owing the IRS taxes is pretty sweet.
[13:29]	schestowitz_TR2	in my current work I have two pensions because they changed provided 5 years ago
[13:29]	DaemonFC	We only owed $38 in federal income tax last year because I planned it out pretty well.
[13:29]	MinceR	he can't decide whether he wants to plague us with his presence or not?
[13:29]	schestowitz_TR2	so you end up having to chase two companies
[13:29]	schestowitz_TR2	and if you die, next of kin might not even know
[13:29]	schestowitz_TR2	so they can "pull a musk"
[13:29]	schestowitz_TR2	and pocket your account with its balance
[13:30]	DaemonFC	They can't do that.
[13:30]	DaemonFC	They have to turn it over to the unclaimed property department.
[13:31]	DaemonFC	Since I am Mandy's next-of-kin as surviving spouse, I could still get the money without having to go through probate.
[13:32]	DaemonFC	When you die, the bank freezes your accounts. My cousins went and drained my aunt's bank account before the bank noticed she had died and froze it.
[13:32]	DaemonFC	I mean, it wasn't legal, but their mother had no use for the money anymore, they would have gotten it anyway eventually, and they had to come up with funeral expenses on the spot.
[13:33]	DaemonFC	My ex threw the cost of cremating his parents into his bankruptcy.
[13:33]	DaemonFC	His whole life turned into a shitshow that could rival mine. Maybe worse.
[13:33]	DaemonFC	So it's not like any of them did _better_ after they left me.
[13:34]	DaemonFC	Strokes, teeth rotting out, orca fat, beaten to a pulp by the next guy, felonies....
[13:34]	DaemonFC	They could have had a much better life with me, but none of them were smart enough to think of the fact that next year would get here eventually.
[13:34]	DaemonFC	So they ran off to do whatever they wanted to.
[13:36]	DaemonFC	Mandy gets mad at me and says "What about your exes. They left you!". He quit after I said, "Yeah, and you know what happened to them? Prison, stroke, dead, bankrupt, nex guy beating on them, no teeth......".
[13:37]	DaemonFC	You just wait a while. It looks like they did you wrong and they're going to have a good life, and they don't have a good life.
[13:37]	DaemonFC	They go on and make some disaster and you're just over here driving around in your Buick and listening to your Bose radio with the cats. Talking about inflation trends in the coffee market and how your investments are doing.
[13:38]	DaemonFC	You know, I mean, I recover, they just step in another pile of shit until they're dead.
[13:39]	DaemonFC	The thing is, when someone does you dirty, just don't dwell on it. They'll get theirs eventually. You'll just make yourself miserable.
[13:39]	DaemonFC	If it makes you feel better, think of how many things you've done and gotten away with that nobody even knows about.
[13:40]	DaemonFC	I can tell you on the scoreboard I've gotten away with things fifty times as often as I've been slapped down, so I'm actually fine with that.
[13:41]	DaemonFC	The reason I started thinking in those terms was because of my Aunt. She told me about her dad going after her with the belt for something she didn't even do, but then after sitting there grousing about how unfair life is, she thought "But what about all the stuff I did and deserved that for that he didn't ever know about?".
[13:43]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR2, Walmart actually sent some investments they made in my name to the unclaimed property department.
[13:43]	DaemonFC	I check it occasionally.
[13:43]	DaemonFC	All I had to do was fill out a form and get it notorized and send a copy of my driver's license and I got checks from the Attorney General's office.
[13:43]	DaemonFC	The state can keep it after like 10 years if you don't notice.
[13:44]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/22060151
[13:44]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/ilsqmei6wt091.jpg created on 2022-06-01 20:18:32.833238
[13:44]	DaemonFC	Most people are so dumb they don't know that they have money there because they never check.
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[13:45]	DaemonFC	Walmart secretly buys a fraction of a share of their own company and gives it to you every pay period.
[13:45]	DaemonFC	That way they can say you own part of the company and can't unionize.
[13:45]	DaemonFC	Then they pay it out when you quit.
[13:46]	DaemonFC	It came out to something like $2 a week.
[13:46]	DaemonFC	Time for a nap. *yawns*
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[13:47]	TR News	"On Thursday evening, the House Select Committee investigating the sacking of the Capitol on Jan. 6" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/07/jan-6-hearings-it-too-late-save-our-democracy | Source: Common Dreams
[13:47]	TR Bot	 Opinion | Jan. 6 Hearings: Is It Too Late to Save Our Democracy? | Jesse Jackson
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[13:56]	TR Bot	 Demand Grows for Windfall Profits Tax as Goldman Sachs Predicts More Gas Pump Pain
[13:59]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165758
[13:59]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[14:00]	TR News	The Right Way to Remove Apt, Deb, Snap, and Flatpak Packages on Ubuntu Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165759
[14:00]	TR Bot	 The Right Way to Remove Apt, Deb, Snap, and Flatpak Packages on Ubuntu | Tux Machines
[14:02]	XRevan86	https://theins.press/en/news/251983
[14:02]	TR Bot	 Grain hypocrisy: Russia keeps on destroying Ukrainian grain export routes as Putin pledges assistance and corridors
[14:02]	XRevan86	https://theins.press/en/news/252000
[14:02]	TR Bot	 Putin&#x27;s phone-in session canceled in June, postponed indefinitely. Over the last 21 years, it only happened once
[14:03]	XRevan86	https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/08/russian-political-scientist-ekaterina-schulmann-declared-foreign-agent-for-teaching-and-appearing-on-the-radio-news "Russian political scientist Ekaterina Schulmann declared foreign agent for teaching and appearing on the radio"
[14:03]	TR Bot	 . 
[14:03]	XRevan86	https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/08/michael-nacke-ruslan-leviev-and-andrei-soldatov-property-seized-by-court-news "Michael Nacke, Ruslan Leviev and Andrei Soldatov property seized by court"
[14:03]	TR Bot	 . 
[14:03]	XRevan86	https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/08/new-bill-in-russian-parliament-introduces-huge-fines-for-lgbt-propaganda-news "New bill in Russian parliament introduces huge fines for LGBT propaganda"
[14:03]	TR Bot	 . 
[14:03]	XRevan86	https://theins.press/en/news/251988
[14:03]	TR Bot	 Moscow chief rabbi left Russia over refusal to support war
[14:05]	schestowitz	XRevan86: i have read turkey gets lots of the grain
[14:05]	schestowitz	while obstructing nato
[14:05]	schestowitz	you might say it is a bribe for a nato member
[14:05]	schestowitz	that is disloyal to nato
[14:06]	schestowitz	activelow thinking putin wants to save germany
[14:06]	schestowitz	tell poland to let putin "through"
[14:06]	schestowitz	to "save" germany
[14:06]	schestowitz	wait, what did v day celebrate?
[14:06]	schestowitz	oh, yes
[14:06]	schestowitz	the russians invading and finishing off germany
[14:06]	schestowitz	putin loves victory day
[14:06]	schestowitz	activelylow thinks putin loves germany
[14:09]	XRevan86	schestowitz: I know that Turkey made an arrangement with Russia and going to try to de-mine the Odessa port.
[14:11]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Maybe ZVastika looks nostalgic to him.
[14:13]	schestowitz_TR2	zas ist a pozzibility
[14:14]	schestowitz_TR2	either way, that sort of politics is bad and certainly not for this channel
[14:14]	schestowitz_TR2	all this russian war stuff, unless t involves tech, is better suited for other channels
[14:15]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Can I keep the news coverage? It's barely making a dent in the total message count.
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[14:20]	MinceR	"save" everyone for slavery to vladolf
[14:21]	XRevan86	MinceR: Considering how many casualties there are, that's not realistic.
[14:21]	schestowitz_TR2	XRevan86: yes, it is OK
[14:21]	schestowitz_TR2	and important
[14:21]	schestowitz_TR2	and does not shift the topic either
[14:22]	schestowitz_TR2	XFaCE: soon there will be a zinc "supply chain" shotrage in Russland
[14:22]	schestowitz_TR2	XRevan86: ^
[14:22]	MinceR	XRevan86: apparently they don't mind casualties
[14:23]	schestowitz_TR2	they can cut them in hald
[14:23]	schestowitz_TR2	and stuff two in one coffin
[14:23]	schestowitz_TR2	like the nzsis "saves bullets"
[14:23]	schestowitz_TR2	*nazis
[14:23]	schestowitz_TR2	two heads close together
[14:23]	MinceR	what is a few tens of millions of people to sacrifice if it lets vladolf have his neutral zone, which actually won't help him at all
[14:24]	XRevan86	(old) https://presstv.ir/Detail/2022/05/26/682802/Iran-Russia-barter-trade-steel-Fatemi-Amin
[14:24]	TR Bot	 Iran may barter car parts, gas turbines for Russias steel: Minister
[14:24]	XRevan86	No zinc shortage in sight.
[14:25]	XRevan86	Plenty to go around, even to export.
[14:29]	XRevan86	Spokeswoman for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia Maria Zakharova called the ban of Russian state channels in Latvia "media genocide".
[14:33]	XRevan86	https://blog.lighttpd.net/articles/2022/06/07/lighttpd-1.4.65-released/
[14:33]	TR Bot	 lighttpd 1.4.65 released - lighty's life
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[14:51]	TR News	On gerrymandering (election theft by GOP typically) https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/07/supreme-court-allows-states-to-use-unlawfully-gerrymandered-congressional-maps-in-the-2022-midterm-elections/ | Source: Counter Punch
[14:51]	TR Bot	Court Allows States to use Unlawfully Gerrymandered Congressional Maps in the 2022 Midterm Elections - CounterPunch.org
[14:52]	TR News	EV megahype, yuppie cult? https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/07/electric-cars-great-idea-but-not-a-panacea/ | Source: Counter Punch
[14:52]	TR Bot	Cars: Great Idea, But Not a Panacea - CounterPunch.org
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[14:53]	TR News	"right to repair" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/07/new-york-becomes-the-first-state-to-pass-a-right-to-repair-law/ | Source: Techdirt
[14:53]	TR Bot	York Becomes The First State To Pass A Right To Repair Law | Techdirt
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[15:22]	TR News	Automated XKCD with /etc/cron.daily/ gemini://gemi.dev/gemlog/2022-06-08-automating-xkcd.gmi
[15:23]	TR News	XKCD Comics via Gemini: "XKCD is "a webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language" that's I've been enjoying for [checks calendar], oh damn, over 15 years." gemini://gemi.dev/gemlog/2022-02-24-xkcd.gmi
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[15:31]	XRevan86	https://nitter.net/Shayan86/status/1534515184794058752#m
[15:31]	TR Bot	 Shayan Sardarizadeh (@Shayan86): "It's day 105 of war in Ukraine. A fake news report and a video with the logo of the German daily Bild have been shared online to claim Ukrainian refugees had set fire to a house in Wulfen. Bild's deputy editor has confirmed both the report and video are fake, via @AFPFactCheck."|nitter
[15:31]	TR News	"Politicos implication from this admission is that the $1.9 trillion American Recovery Plan Biden was a mistake" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/07/janet-yellen-admits-she-didnt-see-later-rounds-of-covid-and-the-war-in-ukraine/ | Source: Counter Punch
[15:31]	TR Bot	Yellen Admits She Didnt See Later Rounds of Covid and the War in Ukraine - CounterPunch.org
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[15:34]	TR News	The "corporates" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/07/latin-american-leaders-gathering-in-los-angeles-should-stand-up-for-people-not-corporate-profits/ | Source: Counter Punch
[15:34]	TR Bot	American Leaders Gathering in Los Angeles Should Stand Up for People, Not Corporate Profits - CounterPunch.org
[15:35]	TR News	"How much would you pay for a 3D printer? Granted, when we started a decent printer might run over $1,000 but the cost has come way down" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/07/the-worlds-most-expensive-3d-printers/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:35]	TR Bot	Worlds Most Expensive 3D Printers | Hackaday
[15:35]	TR News	"We always enjoy videos from [FesZ], so when we saw his latest about tips and tricks for LTSpice, we decided to put the 20 minutes in to watch it." https://hackaday.com/2022/06/07/ltspice-tips-and-a-long-tutorial/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:35]	TR Bot	Tips And A Long Tutorial | Hackaday
[15:36]	TR News	"The word chaos is understood as meaning disorder and confusion, and when it flourishes, it becomes increasingly difficult" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/07/chaos-or-community-2/ | Source: Counter Punch
[15:36]	TR Bot	or Community - CounterPunch.org
[15:36]	TR News	"Its said that good things come in small packages, which is hard to deny when we look at all the nifty projects out there that were built into an Altoids tin" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/07/a-breath-of-fresh-air-for-some-arcade-classics/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:36]	TR Bot	Breath Of Fresh Air For Some Arcade Classics | Hackaday
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[15:41]	TR News	Google's YouTube became a clickbot farm, helping to fake its relevance. Linux [sic] Foundation is one of the offenders, scamming companies at the moment....
[15:42]	schestowitz_TR2	^^ scamnil/spamnil
[15:42]	schestowitz_TR2	they will suspend his channel soon
[15:42]	schestowitz_TR2	if he carries on
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[15:44]	TR News	Leap 15.4 Offers New Features, Familiar Stability http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165752#comment-33913
[15:44]	TR Bot	 openSUSE Leap 15.4 Officially Released, This Is What's New | Tux Machines
[15:45]	TR News	Linux Foundation: from "we support Linux" to "we don't support Linux" to "we help the attack on Linux" to "WE DEFRAUD COMPANIES"
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[15:59]	TR News	"Tor Browser 11.0.14 is now available from the Tor Browser download page and also from our distribution directory." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165633#comment-33914
[15:59]	TR Bot	 Tails 5.1 is out | Tux Machines
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[16:03]	TR News	Dear UK couriers, the BIN is NOT a mail box. It's not secure and periodically it gets emptied into garbage trucks. People pay shipping fees for a service, not for you to dump objects of value into BINS. Worse yet, this practice will encourage petty thieves to go through your trash, making a mess in pursuit of treasures. This is the new "key under the doormat" lunacy.
[16:07]	TR News	Book review: And Then There Were None gemini://altesq.net/~masqq/gemlog/2022-06-08-2.gmi
[16:08]	TR News	Links 08/06/2022: OpenSUSE Leap 15.4 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/08/opensuse-leap-15-4/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/08/opensuse-leap-15-4/
[16:08]	TR Bot	 Links 08/06/2022: OpenSUSE Leap 15.4 | Techrights
[16:16]	TR News	Today in Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165760
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[16:44]	TR News	Ramifications of Greed: The Bin is Not a Postbox and Mail Should Never be Delivered Into Peoples Trashcans https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/08/bins-are-not-mailboxes/
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[16:49]	XRevan86	https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/08/russian-mp-suggests-to-revoke-lithuanias-independence-recognition-news "Russian MP suggests to revoke Lithuanias independence recognition"
[16:49]	TR Bot	 . 
[16:49]	XRevan86	Novaya.EU downplays him a lot, he's a very colourful character: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgeny_Alexeyevich_Fyodorov
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Yevgeny Alexeyevich Fyodorov - Wikipedia
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[17:00]	schestowitz_TR2	XRevan86: would that mean they plan invasions around belarus to the north and west?
[17:00]	schestowitz_TR2	if they "revoke" independence?
[17:00]	schestowitz_TR2	who are they to decide?
[17:00]	schestowitz_TR2	RU is not UN or similar
[17:01]	schestowitz_TR2	are thes epoliticians even elected?
[17:01]	schestowitz_TR2	oir just the party?
[17:01]	XRevan86	schestowitz: My estimation is that it's a PR stunt.
[17:01]	schestowitz_TR2	and then putin delegates authority?
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[17:02]	XRevan86	schestowitz: He got in by a party list as everyone else in Duma.
[17:02]	XRevan86	And there the word "elected" gets a bit iffy.
[17:06]	TR News	xkcd: Shuttle Skeleton https://xkcd.com/2630/ Source: xkcd
[17:06]	TR Bot	Shuttle Skeleton
[17:07]	TR News	Michael Larabel now does paid marketing for AMD and TUXEDO. Two in one... :/
[17:07]	TR News	Ive got the Linux desktop blues Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165763
[17:07]	TR Bot	 I've got the Linux desktop blues | Tux Machines
[17:11]	TR News	"Another rather important aspect is, bins are naturally dirty. Thats what theyre typically there for. In this case, today, Royal Mail left the parcel next to cats poo. And that says a lot about the quality of service. How was the delivery? Poo!" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/08/bins-are-not-mailboxes/
[17:12]	schestowitz_TR2	XFaCE: e-lick-ted
[17:12]	schestowitz_TR2	XRevan86: ^
[17:12]	schestowitz_TR2	sory, autocomplete beats me
[17:19]	XRevan86	schestowitz: The thing about Russian politics is that it's sometimes hard to tell what's just a PR stunt from a far-right extremist who is also a Duma deputee and what's going to gain wider traction.
[17:20]	XRevan86	https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1534554247278247936
[17:20]	TR Bot	 Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Meanwhile in modern Russia: a screaming match on state TV as to whether captured British citizens Shaun Pinner and Aiden Aslin should be shot, hanged, quartered or exchanged for ransom (the release of Russia's frozen assets), as they hope to cause a rift in British society."|nitter
[17:38]	MinceR	08 180107 < schestowitz_TR2> are thes epoliticians even elected?
[17:39]	MinceR	according to the 146%, no one is elected in orcland
[17:39]	MinceR	the government runs sham elections regularly, just as they do in orban's gypsyland, red china and the USSR
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[17:41]	MinceR	well, _did_ in the USSR
[17:41]	MinceR	(cat) https://ircz.de/p/22060220
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[17:43]	matey	 <XRevan86> schestowitz: The thing about Russian politics is that it's sometimes hard to tell what's just a PR stunt from a far-right extremist <- like poes law but worse
[17:43]	schestowitz_TR2	matey: just recorded re LF
[17:43]	schestowitz_TR2	will quote you a bit
[17:43]	matey	lol
[17:44]	schestowitz_TR2	lf getting worse by the week
[17:44]	schestowitz_TR2	brb
[17:44]	matey	in orban's gypsyland <- well i certainly dont care if mincer is pc or not
[17:44]	schestowitz_TR2	typing the text for it
[17:44]	matey	but why "gypsyland"?
[17:44]	MinceR	because orban is the gypsy king
[17:44]	matey	ok got it
[17:45]	matey	thanks
[17:45]	MinceR	:)
[17:45]	MinceR	and for that, just look at pictures of him from when he was younger
[17:47]	matey	in orban's gypsyland, red china and the USSR <- you forgot the ussa
[17:47]	matey	though these days if you say "fake election" they assume you like trump
[17:47]	matey	theyve been fake for 20 years, only trump is salty about it
[17:47]	matey	he got in on a fucking fake election too
[17:48]	MinceR	if you meant the USA, afaik they run sort of real elections, it's just that their system pretty much guarantees that only the 2 major parties have any chance of winning, and both of those parties are owned by the same megacorporations
[17:48]	matey	the only election people care about is the general, and that can be run entirely legit (which it isnt always) because the primaries are a farce
[17:48]	matey	they run sort of real elections, it's just that their system pretty much guarantees that only the 2 major parties have any chance of winning, and both of those parties are owned by the same megacorporations <- yes
[17:48]	MinceR	the primaries wouldn't even matter in a real plural system
[17:48]	matey	fsvo of "sort oF"
[17:49]	matey	the primaries wouldn't even matter in a real plural system <- we dont need no steenking primaries
[17:49]	matey	"what do you think of western democracy?" 
[17:49]	XRevan86	Right, primaries are pretty redundant in a democracy.
[17:49]	matey	"i think it would be a good idea"
[17:50]	XRevan86	It's like an additional democracy on a party level.
[17:50]	matey	sort of a debutante ball for (mostly) old me
[17:50]	matey	men
[17:50]	XRevan86	Which is usually pretty fake. United Russia has primaries.
[17:50]	MinceR	"what do you think of human civilization?"
[17:50]	MinceR	"i think it would be a good idea"
[17:53]	matey	i think trump and hillary made the libertarian and green numbers jump up in 2016
[17:53]	matey	i liked jill stein
[17:53]	matey	the greens dont impress me at this point
[17:54]	matey	i suppose anythings better than the big 2, but better isnt great
[17:55]	matey	anythings better than the big 2 <- i mean... except the complete nutjobs
[17:55]	schestowitz_TR2	daedomfc thinks green is pro-trump
[17:56]	matey	hes also subscribes to eugenics, so politically hes an untouchable imo
[17:56]	XRevan86	It makes some sense, as FPTP is about dividing and conquering, and green divides the non-conservatives.
[17:56]	matey	which doesnt actually mean anything-- there are loads of political untouchables, they can have the same rights as everyone else
[17:57]	XRevan86	And in the same way Libertarians eat away the conservative votes.
[17:57]	matey	And in the same way Libertarians eat away the conservative votes. <- to me this implies that a party has more "right" to receive votes than a voter has a right to elect who they want
[17:57]	XRevan86	matey: That's exactly how this works.
[17:58]	matey	a party that is entitled to votes isnt accountable, and wont represent voters
[17:58]	XRevan86	And that's why better functioning democracies have different vote counting systems.
[17:58]	matey	And that's why better functioning democracies have different vote counting systems. <- indeed
[17:59]	matey	"what do you think of the candidates?" "well i hate them, theyre terrible for the country, but given my options i hope the slightly less piece of shit one is in charge for 4-8 years"
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[18:00]	matey	repeat until the world collapses
[18:00]	XRevan86	And that's why the third option-ers are disliked, as their votes are effectively just removed from the decision-making process.
[18:00]	XRevan86	Down the drain they go.
[18:01]	XRevan86	Fun thing is that the people who are elected with the current system have no incentive to fix it. And for some reason no one even advocates all that much for it outside of it.
[18:02]	XRevan86	"for it" <- For fixing it with second tours / run-offs at least.
[18:07]	matey	the people who are elected with the current system have no incentive to fix it <- so its sort of like democracy
[18:07]	matey	only without the most important feature
[18:08]	matey	"you vote, we dont listen, we do what we please"
[18:10]	matey	this is what superficiality does though
[18:10]	matey	it disconnectes the obvious from the important
[18:11]	XRevan86	matey: Pretty much. But reality is a bit more complicated than that, and eventually some weird power struggle might turn the tables somehow. But since it still hasn't happened, it's unlikely that it will.
[18:12]	XRevan86	Especially if the majority of people doesn't have understanding and a consensus that they want more fair math.
[18:13]	XRevan86	https://youtu.be/4G91wRwXqzo To Be Or: Putin is Ill (English Subtitles)
[18:13]	TR Bot	https://y.com.sb/watch?v=4G91wRwXqzo
[18:13]	TR Bot	y.com.sb | | (English subs) - Invidious
[18:15]	XRevan86	A good video, to the point.
[18:15]	matey	and eventually some weird power struggle might turn the tables somehow
[18:16]	matey	as far-off as that may seem given what weve seen
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[18:16]	matey	the worse things get the more inevitable it is
[18:16]	XRevan86	The subtitles are B-level however :(
[18:16]	matey	ive said for years that government, cults and narcissism work largely the same way
[18:17]	matey	i dont mean all government, though to some degree i suppose thats true too
[18:17]	matey	i do mean our governments (many)
[18:17]	matey	corporate-led governments, for one very damning category 
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[18:18]	matey	a narcissist is like a one-man cult. i completely reject the idea that narcissists can only be male of course
[18:18]	XRevan86	They definitely aren't.
[18:18]	matey	there are plenty of female narcissists too and experts dont insist that its a male phenomenon, thats sheer politics
[18:19]	schestowitz_TR2	<matey> " It is a major force in promoting diversity and inclusion in both Linux and the wider open source software community."
[18:19]	matey	but the narcissist tends to warp reality around themselves-- insults are mostly ignored (with glaring exceptions) and compliments are exaggerated
[18:19]	schestowitz_TR2	they throw very little token money
[18:19]	schestowitz_TR2	into this
[18:19]	schestowitz_TR2	then, if you object to the corporations
[18:19]	schestowitz_TR2	they spin that as intolerance
[18:19]	schestowitz_TR2	and then sic that crowd at you
[18:19]	matey	<matey> " It is a major force in promoting diversity and inclusion in both Linux and the wider open source software community." <- you arent quoting me there roy
[18:19]	schestowitz_TR2	claiming that you oppress them
[18:19]	schestowitz_TR2	it's an old corporate stunty
[18:19]	matey	i was quoting something i was reading
[18:20]	schestowitz_TR2	http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/
[18:20]	TR Bot	 Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its Support for the Black Community | Techrights
[18:20]	matey	/me shrugs
[18:20]	schestowitz_TR2	I knoqw you quoted
[18:20]	schestowitz_TR2	it's a PR startegy
[18:20]	schestowitz_TR2	it's a defence marketing tactics
[18:20]	schestowitz_TR2	when you do corrupt thing
[18:20]	matey	ofc
[18:20]	schestowitz_TR2	claim you help kids
[18:20]	schestowitz_TR2	like gates foundation
[18:20]	schestowitz_TR2	the epstein foundsation
[18:21]	schestowitz_TR2	they almost madew one
[18:21]	matey	wont someone please think of the children!
[18:21]	schestowitz_TR2	they discussed it in prison
[18:21]	schestowitz_TR2	how to launder his reputation
[18:21]	schestowitz_TR2	he obviously was very close to bill
[18:21]	schestowitz_TR2	maybe knew some very dark secrets
[18:21]	schestowitz_TR2	now he is "well, he's dead"
[18:21]	matey	you think jim is close to him, or its just a love letter?
[18:21]	schestowitz_TR2	that's how bill talks of his FRIEND
[18:21]	schestowitz_TR2	"well, he'd dead"
[18:21]	schestowitz_TR2	like "good riddance"
[18:21]	schestowitz_TR2	to his mate whom he even went to visit in prison
[18:22]	schestowitz_TR2	brb
[18:22]	matey	the way that a narcissist warps reality is intended to create dependency so they can get people to do what they want
[18:23]	matey	government of course, is made in a similar image
[18:23]	matey	and you can see the corporations doing it left and right
[18:23]	matey	but cults do this too
[18:23]	matey	both cults and governments create mostly-fictions when they need something big done
[18:23]	matey	like a war
[18:24]	matey	most people dont know narcissists well enough to see them doing the same thing, but this is another similarity
[18:24]	matey	the whole thing is built on hypocrisy and exceptionalism
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[18:24]	matey	it cant function within any sort of rule that applies to everyone-- it has to make itself excempt
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[18:25]	matey	realising that you dont depend on such charlatans, whether single people or politicians, is key
[18:26]	matey	unfortunately, people who have been abused and conditioned by such people, have habits of seeking similar
[18:26]	matey	because that "dependency" works in a way similar to addiction
[18:26]	matey	even if consciously they would strongly prefer to avoid it
[18:26]	matey	the truth is that it requires a very well-examined life to move past such habits
[18:27]	matey	so they will often find themselves mired in such abuse more than once
[18:27]	matey	even if they leave one abuser quite willfully, theyll find another who is a better fake
[18:27]	matey	understanding this isnt a perfect solution because its a struggle to overcome such things
[18:28]	matey	simply understanding basketball wont make you a professional, and this is a competition between a victim and their abusers
[18:28]	matey	its a fight
[18:28]	matey	mostly with ones own habits
[18:29]	matey	but i think if most of society understood this, it would advance more quickly
[18:29]	matey	it would still be a struggle, but it would be a far better informed struggle
[18:29]	matey	lf, sfc, lieplanet and both american parties are good examples of this sort of problem
[18:29]	matey	jim zemlin is a good example of this imo
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[18:30]	matey	hes a bully to torvalds
[18:30]	matey	zemlin cant even USE what torvalds MADE
[18:30]	matey	and torvalds is a bully too
[18:30]	matey	but bigger bullies exploit smaller bullies
[18:30]	matey	as well as exploit good people
[18:31]	matey	"open source eats their own"
[18:31]	matey	free software, when its honest, helps users liberate themselves
[18:31]	matey	you cant do it without education
[18:31]	matey	open source brings control back to corporations
[18:32]	matey	corporations create dependency and make people do what they want
[18:32]	matey	they create fictions and exploit the public with them
[18:32]	matey	these are the same tactics the government uses to get people to go to illegal wars where innocent civilians die for profit
[18:33]	matey	pudding is an example, the invasions of ukr and iraq are examples
[18:33]	matey	blair and new labour are examples-- new labour is like open source to the labour parties own free software (sort of)
[18:33]	matey	its the same theme over and over because it achieves similar goals by similar means
[18:34]	matey	and it turns the world into shit
[18:34]	matey	and puts liars who are more or less sociopathic in charge of everything on every level
[18:34]	matey	people will figure this out, however long it takes
[18:34]	matey	but giving it a push is a very good idea
[18:35]	matey	for people struggling to figure it out, a push towards doing so
[18:35]	matey	for the people doing it, a push off a cliff
[18:35]	matey	metaphorically of course
[18:36]	schestowitz_TR2	<matey> zemlin cant even USE what torvalds MADE
[18:36]	schestowitz_TR2	right
[18:36]	schestowitz_TR2	but he can be "boss"
[18:36]	schestowitz_TR2	amazing
[18:36]	matey	yeah, people like zemlin are fond of putting themselves in charge
[18:36]	matey	even of things they know nothing about 
[18:36]	schestowitz_TR2	Zemlin just paints himself ethicsal
[18:36]	schestowitz_TR2	while lying to everyone
[18:36]	schestowitz_TR2	about endless things
[18:36]	matey	another fiction
[18:36]	schestowitz_TR2	inc. his language skillls
[18:36]	matey	sheer mythology
[18:36]	schestowitz_TR2	like people who think being pro-Putin does not lessen career prospects in Germany
[18:37]	schestowitz_TR2	today I saw a lot of weird stuff
[18:37]	matey	i guess it depends on what career youre seeking
[18:37]	schestowitz_TR2	yeah
[18:37]	schestowitz_TR2	lf
[18:37]	schestowitz_TR2	welcomes frauds
[18:37]	schestowitz_TR2	but
[18:37]	schestowitz_TR2	you must pretend
[18:37]	schestowitz_TR2	imposters
[18:37]	schestowitz_TR2	galore
[18:37]	matey	and you cant criticise them :)
[18:37]	schestowitz_TR2	we had bosses like that
[18:38]	schestowitz_TR2	their main skills was pretending to be bosses
[18:38]	matey	even if they put people at risk
[18:38]	schestowitz_TR2	without knowing anything about tech
[18:38]	schestowitz_TR2	job requirememt: be imposter
[18:38]	matey	 we had bosses like that <- what, at sos?
[18:38]	schestowitz_TR2	"act like one"
[18:38]	schestowitz_TR2	brb
[18:38]	matey	/me only knew of one since 10 years ago
[18:38]	schestowitz_TR2	actually, wanna read the draft?
[18:38]	schestowitz_TR2	you are named in it
[18:39]	matey	if im named in it im probably going to read it eventually anyway
[18:39]	matey	its always interesting to see your "take" on it
[18:39]	schestowitz_TR2	not scripted
[18:39]	schestowitz_TR2	but the topics have a lot to be said about them
[18:39]	matey	no, written after the video is made
[18:39]	schestowitz_TR2	yeah
[18:39]	matey	so off the cuff
[18:40]	schestowitz_TR2	t covr things not covered in the video
[18:40]	matey	whats the url
[18:40]	schestowitz_TR2	also, videos are better for some subjects
[18:40]	schestowitz_TR2	the difficult parts
[18:40]	schestowitz_TR2	wait, will publish sans video
[18:40]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2022/06/08/lf-defrauding-clients/
[18:40]	TR Bot	 New Lows: Linux Foundation Defrauding Clients | Techrights
[18:44]	matey	There are also intentional lies; as "matey" noted, TechRadar says in a new article, that Torvalds is the "foundation founder and head honcho", but this is clearly not the case (never mind GNU chronology), he called it "fake news".
[18:44]	matey	lol
[18:44]	matey	close enough
[18:45]	matey	 One reader and contributor recently joked about creating  "the tux foundation", noting that "the linux foundation uses a mac and pretends to care about "linux" [whereas] the tux foundation uses gnu/linux and pretends to care about freedom". <- this part is my favourite
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[18:50]	schestowitz_TR2	video uploade done in 10 secs
[18:50]	schestowitz_TR2	I found like 20  typods
[18:50]	schestowitz_TR2	corrected now
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[18:51]	schestowitz_TR2	hmm... my chair was making a lot of noise
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[18:52]	TR News	New Lows: Linux Foundation Defrauding Clients | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/08/lf-defrauding-clients/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/08/lf-defrauding-clients/
[18:52]	schestowitz_TR2	http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation#June_2022
[18:53]	TR Bot	 Linux Foundation - Techrights
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[19:03]	matey	hmm... my chair was making a lot of noise <- the free one you haggled in response to damnable service?
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[19:09]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR2, I posted this on Facebook about the inflation going on in America.
[19:09]	DaemonFC	"I'm absolutely fuming about the inflation while the Biden Administration has no plans to address it. Can't get baby formula, if you have savings, this administration steals 20% of them from you every year with prices going up and he's over there on his knees asking the Saudis and Iranians to do something about oil after a canceled our deal with a stable democracy and ally, Canada, and we're not tapping into our own supplies, and people are 
[19:09]	DaemonFC	getting murdered at the gas pump just trying to get to work and back.
[19:09]	DaemonFC	The inflation and the debt are going to cause this country to go off the edge because there's nothing backing up our money and the rest of the world is realizing that if Biden and the Federal Reserve and Congress won't stop recklessly spending and inflating the money supply, they have to demand more Dollars for the same amount of stuff. And that goes domestically too, for what there is of it anymore.
[19:09]	DaemonFC	Our foreign creditors realize what's going on and have stopped or dramatically slowed down their purchases of US bonds, which was propping up the trade-weighted Dollar so that they could maintain currency pegs, and now they're demanding payment and not rolling over those assets and happy to just take interest.
[19:09]	DaemonFC	If people think we've seen the worst of this, they have a screw loose. This is the tip of the iceberg.
[19:09]	DaemonFC	That "American Rescue Plan" nonsense was as bad as the "CARES Act".
[19:09]	DaemonFC	Something given has no value, and those states that got the money pretty much all squandered it without fixing anything because they saw it as a windfall.
[19:09]	DaemonFC	The CARES Act led to a slumlord I know about in Indiana who drives 3 luxury cars and has defrauded the IRS and a bunch of township trustees with fake eviction letters to get her tenants to pay rent getting $11,000 she didn't even have to pay back. And this isn't even abnormal if you look at the open records data.
[19:10]	DaemonFC	The Democrats are digging their own political grave and they're too stupid to even see it. They're so far removed from what is going on with "kitchen table issues", that Pete Buttigieg said "If you're having trouble paying $6 a gallon for gas, just buy an electric car!".
[19:10]	DaemonFC	Yes, a brand new car when you can't afford gas. A car that will be so unreliable due to no place to charge it and nobody that knows how to work on it that you'll need to rush to get rid of it before the warranty is up.
[19:10]	DaemonFC	Let them eat cake!"
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[19:12]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR2, I did the same thing with the Buick that I did with the Impala. It's not getting the ideal gas mileage? Make the best of it. Clean the throttle body, clean the MAF sensor, change the air filters, change the spark plugs, run it on the best energy-conserving oil you can get.
[19:13]	DaemonFC	The computer was complaining about a small gas leak and I was panicking and then I saw the code and it was complaining about a gas cap, so I got an OEM cap and it stopped saying there was a leak.
[19:14]	DaemonFC	You know, I'm at 20.5 mpg last fill up and that was 96% city driving.
[19:14]	DaemonFC	Not terrific by modern standards, but not as bad as most people get with a car that old because they don't even clean any of that gunk out.
[19:15]	DaemonFC	But Pete Buttgags is up there telling people who make minimum wage and are dealing with hyperinflation to just buy an electric car.
[19:15]	DaemonFC	What good are they? Nobody can work on them! Can't plug them in anywhere.
[19:21]	DaemonFC	https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/childrens-museum-apologizes-after-offering-juneteenth-watermelon-salad/2850989/
[19:21]	TR Bot	 Childrens Museum Apologizes After Offering Juneteenth Watermelon Salad NBC Chicago
[19:21]	DaemonFC	Based.
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[19:38]	DaemonFC	These gas prices are getting totally out of control.
[19:38]	DaemonFC	Lots of people out there are running out of gas and calling AAA because they think they can push their car a little further and make it until pay day.
[19:39]	DaemonFC	I'm not really sure that high fuel prices really mean the same thing in other countries.
[19:39]	DaemonFC	The minimum wage isn't $7.25 an hour in most of those places.
[19:39]	DaemonFC	With no health insurance.
[19:40]	DaemonFC	And employers looking to worm out of that with 1099 workers so Mister Gulag can complain about his pizza being cold.
[19:40]	DaemonFC	I fucking hate DoorDash and everything it represents.
[19:42]	DaemonFC	Like every driver I've seen is driving some piece of crap with rusted out rockers, missing half a fender, baby in the back, car making some squealing noise because they're trying to make a few bucks and can't because gas is $6 a gallon and the landlord is jacking up their rent and DoorDash calls them a contractor so they have to pay double social taxes.
[19:42]	DaemonFC	Those apps make you give them the VIN number of what you're driving so they can check it for "safety". I'm pretty sure none of those cars are new enough to pass, so they give it someone else's VIN and drive that thing around.
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[19:44]	DaemonFC	Mandy doesn't understand anything about economics. He said I should do Doordash for extra income with the Impala instead of giving it back to mom. I told him, "So I can burn through $12 of gas to get $4 on someone's Walmart Plus order after lugging gallons of drinking water and 60 pound sacks of dog food down 4 flights of stairs and throw my back out and have a heart attack so they don't even tip me.
[19:44]	DaemonFC	"Yeah, real nice. Then the IRS wants half of the $4. This is sustainable!"
[19:45]	DaemonFC	*up and down the stairs
[19:45]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, People must be dumb if they think that this is an answer to having too little money.
[19:45]	DaemonFC	Oh let's throw away four times what the app is paying us, beat up the car, and get a hernia.
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[19:47]	DaemonFC	The only thing keeping us afloat is my constant scheming.
[19:48]	DaemonFC	The only thing I use regularly with that stupid Walmart Plus is the gas discount.
[19:48]	DaemonFC	If they were charging us anything for Walmart Plus I'd get rid of it.
[19:48]	DaemonFC	I get 10 cents a gallon off my gas and that's about the only perk.
[19:49]	DaemonFC	They have "free store delivery" but the person they work for free is a DoorDash driver, and then they tell the customer that paying them is "optional".
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[20:31]	TR News	"I recently discovered "lace", which is a tinylog personal aggregator." gemini://blinkyshark.chickenkiller.com/2022-06-08-chirps.gmi
[20:32]	TR News	"This made me chuckle, as it reminded me of a professor at my old university. He was a clever chap, naturally, but I never approved of his sense of organisation. He had a huge stack of papers on his desk. It led me to joke that he didn't file things alphabetically, but by centimeters from the bottom." gemini://blinkyshark.chickenkiller.com/2022-06-08-noguchi-filing.gmi
[20:33]	TR News	"About six months ago I began offering a chess service on my capsule. Visitors could invite others to play a match in correspondence fashion similar to postal games. While I've received little direct feedback about the service, I've been watching how players interact with it and with each other." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202206/20220608-announcement-temporary-closure-of-chess.gmi
[20:48]	TR News	[Meme] Working to Death for Nellie Simon | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/08/epo-simon-says/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/08/epo-simon-says/
[20:48]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Working to Death for Nellie Simon | Techrights
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[21:02]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, So after that friend of Mandy's who drove to the wrong county had him berating me for addressing an envelope "wrong" (which arrived at our house with his passport, early), she had hers returned to the Philippines Consulate because it was addressed in the wrong format, and now she can't go on vacation to Cancun.
[21:02]	DaemonFC	:)
[21:02]	DaemonFC	She handed him an envelope with the same mistake on it and tried to get him to use it, but I destroyed it and handed him the one I got.
[21:03]	TR News	EPO is Like a Pressure Cooker, Multiple Staff Actions Coincide and Add Up | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/08/epo-abuse-boiling-over/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/08/epo-abuse-boiling-over/
[21:03]	TR Bot	 EPO is Like a Pressure Cooker, Multiple Staff Actions Coincide and Add Up | Techrights
[21:05]	DaemonFC	I was watching Red Dwarf. Rimmer tells the candy vending machine it'll have its revenge for him trying to steal a chocolate bar on the day he's the captain of the ship, and then later something escapes the lab and starts eating the metal of the ship, and the captain orders it abandoned, leaving Rimmer the only officer left. The machine says that makes him captain and mockingly congratulates him.
[21:05]	schestowitz_TR2	Red Dwarf is low budget
[21:05]	schestowitz_TR2	some of the jojes are OK
[21:05]	schestowitz_TR2	but it's not great entertainment
[21:06]	DaemonFC	That is actually true. Maritime Law (which applies in space due to the outer space treaty) stipulates that if a ship is abandoned, the people who remain onboard now own and control the ship.
[21:06]	TR News	About a day more left before tuxmachines is 18
[21:06]	DaemonFC	Someone has to be in command, so it would either be the highest ranking officer or whoever quickly agrees is now the captain.
[21:06]	TR News	System76 to Open Distribution Hub in Europe Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165765
[21:06]	TR Bot	 System76 to Open Distribution Hub in Europe | Tux Machines
[21:07]	TR News	The tactics of the so-called Linux Foundation (like selling "tweets" in clear violation of Twitter's rules) have gotten yet worse; the Foundation hops from one scandal to the next while leaning on shallow political stunts to distract from what it is really doing http://techrights.org/2022/06/08/lf-defrauding-clients/
[21:07]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz_TR2> but it's not great entertainment
[21:07]	TR Bot	 New Lows: Linux Foundation Defrauding Clients | Techrights
[21:07]	DaemonFC	Season X was the low point, I think.
[21:07]	DaemonFC	It wasn't funny. The peak of the awfulness was where it tried to get a laugh by inplying Lister was fucking a vending machine.
[21:08]	DaemonFC	Which they had already used a couple of times prior. Both were Polymorph incidents.
[21:08]	DaemonFC	It took the shape of Rimmer's mother and convinced Lister to have sex with it so that Rimmer would get angry and it would suck out his anger, turning him into a Pacifist who could only be passive-aggressive.
[21:09]	DaemonFC	That actually did make me laugh later on when he suggests hitting the Polymorph "hard and fast" with a "major leaflet campaign".
[21:10]	DaemonFC	Looking back, it was even funnier because it basically turned him into Matthew Garrett and his GitHub Petition against Richard Stallman.
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[21:11]	TR News	How to Delete Snapchat: Learn the Right Method https://www.addictivetips.com/messaging/how-to-delete-snapchat-account/
[21:11]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.addictivetips.com/messaging/how-to-delete-snapchat-account/ )
[21:11]	TR News	How to Delete Facebook Account: Learn the Sure Shot Solution https://www.addictivetips.com/messaging/how-to-delete-facebook-account/
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[21:13]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR2, That just slays me, though. His idiot friend who convinced him I don't know how to use the post office in my own country and then got lost and drove to the wrong county with Apple Carplay GPS on the whole time.
[21:13]	DaemonFC	The fact that she hasn't killed that transmission in her car already is interesting.
[21:13]	DaemonFC	She's putting about 5 years worth of shifts on it per year of ownership driving like that.
[21:13]	DaemonFC	Speed up take foot off gas, speed up, foot off gas.
[21:14]	TR News	Release of Bodhi 6.0.0 is announced, but ICBM Red Hat not only announced it in Microsoft proprietary software prison (in NSA PRISM); all the code, bugs etc. are also there. ICBM is self-satirising.
[21:15]	TR News	EPO staff that 24/7 worked day and night may not survive very long (sleep is needed; without it, health quickly deteriorates) http://techrights.org/2022/06/08/epo-simon-says/
[21:15]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Working to Death for Nellie Simon | Techrights
[21:15]	TR News	The approval rate of Antnio Campinos seems to have fallen to the same level as Benot Battistellis; the media is not talking about it http://techrights.org/2022/06/08/epo-abuse-boiling-over/
[21:15]	TR Bot	 EPO is Like a Pressure Cooker, Multiple Staff Actions Coincide and Add Up | Techrights
[21:17]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165766
[21:17]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[21:19]	TR News	A "professional" term for... SPAM https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-email-marking-platform/
[21:19]	TR Bot	 Which Email Marketing Platform Is Best For You? - Make Tech Easier
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[21:20]	TR News	"In this video, I am going to show how to install deepin 20.6." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8MiWMU_YBOY
[21:20]	TR Bot	 How to install deepin 20.6 - Invidious
[21:23]	TR News	"Publisher Kris Millegan speaks with Whitney Webb about blackmail, organized crime and Israel, Richard Nixon and the Dulles brothers, and her upcoming book, One Nation Under Blackmail: The Sordid Union Between Intelligence and Organized Crime That Gave Rise to Jeffrey Epstein." https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/06/press/the-journey-podcast-96-whitney-webb-blackmail-in-america/
[21:23]	TR Bot	 The Journey Podcast 96 - Whitney Webb: Blackmail In America
[21:25]	TR News	Making libcurl init more thread-safe | daniel.haxx.se https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/06/08/making-libcurl-init-more-thread-safe/#respond Source: daniel
[21:25]	TR Bot	libcurl init more thread-safe | daniel.haxx.se
[21:27]	TR News	openSUSE Leap 15.4 Is Now Available, Heres Whats New http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165752#comment-33915
[21:27]	TR Bot	 openSUSE Leap 15.4 Officially Released, This Is What's New | Tux Machines
[21:30]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[21:35]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165767
[21:35]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[21:35]	TR News	Memory Leak in Perl https://theweeklychallenge.org/blog/memory-leak/ Source: theweeklychallenge
[21:35]	TR Bot	 Memory Leak in Perl
[21:41]	XRevan86	https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/08/dpr-head-of-state-sacks-cabinet-appoints-ex-russia-official-as-pm-news "DPR Head of State sacks cabinet, appoints ex-Russia official as PM"
[21:41]	TR Bot	 . 
[21:41]	TR News	Proprietary https://www.wfmz.com/news/pr_newswire/pr_newswire_technology/morphisec-launches-knight-for-linux-to-prevent-advanced-cyberattacks/article_03388657-c8a8-5c6f-ab9d-092acdc2eb6a.html
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[21:43]	TR News	Fedora downtimes again. "We will be deploying a new release of Bodhi with a number of upgrades with openid connect authentication among those." Bodhi... developed on Microsoft proprietary software with NSA in charge, too..
[21:44]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/18020248
[21:44]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/xorU6SI.jpg created on 2018-02-02 21:08:07.058776
[21:45]	TR News	Microsoft all over the place, actively-exploited holes, but Microsoft gamed the media to shift attention to "Linux" for FUD purposes https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/06/08/cisa-adds-36-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog
[21:45]	TR Bot	 CISA Adds 36 Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISA
[21:46]	TR News	War Thunder fan leaks classified military documents to win an argument about tanksagain https://www.pcgamer.com/war-thunder-fan-leaks-classified-military-documents-to-win-an-argument-about-tanksagain/
[21:46]	TR Bot	 War Thunder fan leaks classified military documents to win an argument about tanksagain | PC Gamer
[21:47]	TR News	ANOTHER Guy Leaks Classified Military Documents In War Thunder https://kotaku.com/war-thunder-tank-classified-military-document-leak-chin-1849005359 Source: kotaku
[21:47]	TR Bot	 ANOTHER Guy Leaks Classified Military Documents In War Thunder
[21:47]	TR News	Atlantic Council pushing censorship https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/content-series/360os/moderating-non-english-content-transparency-and-local-contexts-are-critical/
[21:47]	TR Bot	 Moderating non-English content: Transparency and local contexts are critical - Atlantic Council
[21:48]	TR News	Starting a repeat census of the New Wood gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/johngodlee/posts/2022-06-07-coppice_census.gmi
[21:49]	TR News	Blinken: Unity of purpose vital to combat digital authoritarianism https://ph.news.yahoo.com/blinken-unity-of-purpose-vital-to-combat-digital-authoritarianism-080248081.html?guccounter=1
[21:49]	TR Bot	 Blinken: Unity of purpose vital to combat digital authoritarianism
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[21:51]	TR News	Billboard Chart Quirks: How Artists And Labels Game The Hot 100 https://tedium.co/2022/06/08/billboard-chart-quirks-history/ Source: tedium
[21:51]	TR Bot	 Billboard Chart Quirks: How Artists And Labels Game The Hot 100
[21:53]	TR News	Obarun 2022.06.08 is out https://web.obarun.org/
[21:53]	TR Bot	 Obarun
[21:54]	TR News	Instead of promoting GNU/Linux ICBM Red Hat is busy promoting its vendor lock-in... even on MAC-branded "PCs" https://opensource.com/article/22/6/install-software-macos-ansible-homebrew
[21:54]	TR Bot	Ansible to automate software installation on my Mac | Opensource.com
[21:55]	TR News	Atlassian is not Linux, nut Microsoft operatives in the media twist the fact to suit Microsoft's talking points https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/linux-botnets-now-exploit-critical-atlassian-confluence-bug/
[21:55]	TR Bot	 Linux botnets now exploit critical Atlassian Confluence bug
[21:57]	TR News	GPL is not a "burden", this is about people trying to make Perl more proprietary-friendly http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/06/reconsidering-the-licensing-of-perl-code.html
[21:57]	TR Bot	the licensing of Perl code | dean [blogs.perl.org]
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[21:58]	TR Bot	 1.4.65 - Lighttpd - fly light
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[22:03]	TR News	Fedora vs Ubuntu: What are the key differences? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165769
[22:03]	TR Bot	 Fedora vs Ubuntu: What are the key differences? | Tux Machines
[22:05]	TR News	Firefox with VA-API for brave Fedorans - Martin Stranskys Blog https://mastransky.wordpress.com/2022/06/08/firefox-with-va-api-for-brave-fedorans/ Source: mastransky
[22:05]	TR Bot	 Firefox with VA-API for brave Fedorans Martin Stransky's Blog
[22:07]	TR News	MongoDB bringing columnstore indexing to document database - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/07/mongodb_columnstore_indexing/ Source: theregister
[22:07]	TR Bot	 MongoDB bringing columnstore indexing to document database The Register
[22:08]	TR News	PyScript: Run Python In Your Browser, Including Numpy And Pandas - Python Land Blog https://python.land/pyscript Source: python
[22:08]	TR Bot	 PyScript: Run Python In Your Browser, Including Numpy And Pandas Python Land Blog
[22:09]	TR News	Linux in the Ham Shack (LHS) Episode #470: The Weekender XCII https://lhspodcast.info/2022/06/lhs-episode-470-the-weekender-xcii-3/
[22:09]	TR Bot	 LHS Episode #470: The Weekender XCII | Linux in the Ham Shack
[22:10]	TR News	Is UNITY desktop usable on Linux in 2022? Lets see! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=CRTPfLOnoRU Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
[22:10]	TR Bot	 Is UNITY desktop usable on Linux in 2022? Let's see! - Invidious
[22:11]	TR News	Home Depot Upgrades 2.3K Retail Edge Locations Using SUSE Rancher, K3s | Data Center Knowledge | News and analysis for the data center industry https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/open-source/home-depot-upgrades-2300-retail-edge-locations-using-suse-rancher-k3s Source: datacenterknowledge
[22:11]	TR Bot	 Home Depot Upgrades 2.3K Retail Edge Locations Using SUSE Rancher, K3s | Data Center Knowledge | News and analysis for the data center industry
[22:12]	TR News	"Plus Mikes first impressions of the HP Dev One laptop." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148842/the-problem-with-wwdc-coder-radio-469/
[22:12]	TR Bot	 The Problem with WWDC | Coder Radio 469 | Jupiter Broadcasting
[22:18]	TR News	Eliminate downtime during OpenShift rolling updates | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/06/08/eliminate-downtime-during-openshift-rolling-updates Source: developers
[22:18]	TR Bot	 Eliminate downtime during OpenShift rolling updates | Red Hat Developer
[22:18]	TR News	Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165770
[22:18]	TR Bot	 Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[22:18]	TR News	Shows: Unity Desktop, Linux in the Ham Shack, HP Dev One Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165771
[22:18]	TR Bot	 Shows: Unity Desktop, Linux in the Ham Shack, HP Dev One | Tux Machines
[22:23]	DaemonFC	I just snagged a bunch of my eye vitamins from Amazon Warehouse Deals.
[22:24]	DaemonFC	Walmart's generic is $18 for a two month supply.
[22:24]	DaemonFC	Warehouse Deals has them for $12.99 and they're the national brand. Same quantity.
[22:24]	DaemonFC	So I bought 5 bottles.
[22:24]	DaemonFC	Won't have to worry about those for a while.
[22:25]	DaemonFC	My eye doctor said that it can't hurt to take them. They haven't done studies on whether it prevents or slows down the onset of age-related macular degeneration, but it runs rampant on my mom's side of the family.
[22:26]	DaemonFC	About all they did study was the progression of people who already had it against a control group.
[22:26]	DaemonFC	The findings were that the control group progressed about 30% faster into the severe phase. And by that time they have to start giving you eye injections every month and you really don't want that.
[22:26]	TR News	Server: OpenShift, Rancher, lighttpd and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165772
[22:26]	TR Bot	 Server: OpenShift, Rancher, lighttpd and More | Tux Machines
[22:26]	TR News	Firefox with VA-API for brave Fedorans Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165773
[22:26]	TR Bot	 Firefox with VA-API for brave Fedorans | Tux Machines
[22:27]	DaemonFC	My grandmother was throwing a fit at the eye doctor.
[22:27]	DaemonFC	The guy was about to give her the injection and she asks him if he believes in our lord and savior Jesus Christ.
[22:27]	DaemonFC	And he goes "No, but I don't see how that's relevant right now.".
[22:27]	TR News	Haha. No Windows. https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/08/renesas-rz-t2m-dual-arm-cortex-r52-mpus-to-provide-high-precision-servo-motors-control/
[22:27]	TR Bot	 Renesas RZ/T2M dual Arm Cortex-R52 MPU delivers high-precision servo motor control - CNX Software
[22:27]	DaemonFC	And she grabs the chair and shakes back and forth and goes "WELL WHY NOT!?!?".
[22:28]	TR News	Marcel Gagne. I miss his GNU/Linux articles. So little time! #shorts - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6JQ4P2Z-cq0 Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia -cq0
[22:28]	TR Bot	 So little time! #shorts - Invidious
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[22:29]	TR News	Hey, Chris Titus. "Apple" is not an OS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbCkFag4t_c
[22:29]	TR Bot	https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=MbCkFag4t_c
[22:29]	TR Bot	invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | Android vs Apple - Invidious
[22:31]	MinceR	https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/notagbacks.png   ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-notagbacks#comic )
[22:31]	TR Bot	& Happiness (Explosm.net)
[22:33]	TR News	Perl: Charts, Licensing, Security... Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165774
[22:33]	TR Bot	 Perl: Charts, Licensing, Security... | Tux Machines
[22:39]	TR News	Links 08/06/2022: Blender 3.2 and lighttpd 1.4.65 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/08/lighttpd-1-4-65/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/08/lighttpd-1-4-65/
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[22:39]	AdmFubar	https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/06/hackers-out-to-steal-a-tesla-can-create-their-very-own-personal-key
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[22:41]	TR News	Programming leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165775
[22:41]	TR Bot	 Programming leftovers | Tux Machines
[22:44]	TR News	"When I started using Linux, "sudo" wasn't nearly as common as it is now. Back then, many Linux distributions didn't even install "sudo" out of the box. Instead, users just used "su" to switch user to root when they needed superuser privileges..." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Yqisex4rm6w
[22:44]	TR Bot	 Why "sudo" when you can just "su"? - Invidious
[22:46]	TR News	EBPF Linux https://blog.cloudanix.com/using-ebpf-to-enhance-monitoring-and-observability/ Source: cloudanix
[22:46]	TR Bot	 EBPF Linux | Enhance Monitoring & Observability | Cloudanix
[22:47]	TR News	Twitch is proprietary :/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/kali-linux-team-to-stream-free-penetration-testing-course-on-twitch/
[22:47]	TR Bot	 Kali Linux team to stream free penetration testing course on Twitch
[22:48]	TR News	Containers vulnerability risk assessment https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/containers-vulnerability-risk-assessment Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux
[22:48]	TR Bot	 Containers vulnerability risk assessment
[22:48]	TR News	This system continuously monitors water levels for seven houses | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/08/this-system-continuously-monitors-water-levels-for-seven-houses/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking
[22:48]	TR Bot	 This system continuously monitors water levels for seven houses | Arduino Blog
[22:49]	TR News	This DIY driving assistant helps with parking and blindspot monitoring | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/08/this-diy-driving-assistant-helps-with-parking-and-blindspot-monitoring/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking
[22:49]	TR Bot	 This DIY driving assistant helps with parking and blindspot monitoring | Arduino Blog
[22:50]	TR News	This Bot Posted 3500 R Packages To The AUR!! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GonDfjkHYss Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
[22:50]	TR Bot	 This Bot Posted 3500 R Packages To The AUR!! - Invidious
[22:51]	TR News	WTF? After getting Microsofters and Gates Foundation (the Esptein-enabling Foundation) on the show "FLOSS" Weekly gets some more Microsoft, shilling for proprietary (not FLOSS) GitHub https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/684
[22:51]	TR Bot	 PlanetScale
[22:52]	psydroid2	they've lost it
[22:53]	schestowitz_TR2	yup
[22:53]	psydroid2	bribing everyone in sight that promotes free software
[22:53]	schestowitz_TR2	I patly boycotted them after that
[22:53]	schestowitz_TR2	then some months passed
[22:53]	schestowitz_TR2	and here they go again
[22:53]	schestowitz_TR2	FLOSS Weekly
[22:53]	schestowitz_TR2	use github
[22:53]	schestowitz_TR2	use Microsofgt
[22:53]	psydroid2	companies can't do this without getting support from the government
[22:53]	schestowitz_TR2	Microsoft is open
[22:53]	schestowitz_TR2	Gates Foundation is your friend..
[22:53]	schestowitz_TR2	I was on that soiw you know
[22:54]	schestowitz_TR2	wayback
[22:54]	schestowitz_TR2	episode 95 or something
[22:54]	schestowitz_TR2	*way back
[22:54]	psydroid2	I don't think I've watched many episodes of it
[22:54]	schestowitz_TR2	FLOSS Weekly does Microsofters again 
[22:54]	psydroid2	but I may look for it
[22:54]	schestowitz_TR2	http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165771#comment-33917
[22:55]	TR Bot	 Shows: Unity Desktop, Linux in the Ham Shack, HP Dev One | Tux Machines
[22:55]	schestowitz_TR2	it was more like an entrapment 
[22:55]	schestowitz_TR2	to demonise me
[22:55]	schestowitz_TR2	https://wiki.twit.tv/wiki/FLOSS_Weekly_91
[22:55]	TR Bot	 FLOSS Weekly 91 - The Official TWiT Wiki
[22:55]	schestowitz_TR2	"the controversial site about the Novell/Microsoft patent deal."
[22:55]	schestowitz_TR2	The deal is not controversial
[22:55]	schestowitz_TR2	the SITE is :-)
[22:55]	schestowitz_TR2	even the summary is revealing
[22:56]	psydroid2	at least I'll be able to see what they tried to entrap you with :)
[22:57]	schestowitz_TR2	akiin to:
[22:57]	schestowitz_TR2	companies that bomb... OK
[22:57]	schestowitz_TR2	people who speak out against such companies, however, are "Toxic"
[22:57]	schestowitz_TR2	they should just get out of the wasy
[22:57]	schestowitz_TR2	let the companies bomb in peace
[22:58]	schestowitz_TR2	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=npiYESEmBHQ
[22:58]	TR Bot	 FLOSS Weekly 91: Boycott Novell - Part 1 - Invidious
[22:58]	schestowitz_TR2	if you must
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[23:03]	MinceR	https://files.explosm.net/comics/Dave/beingoldsucks.png   ( https://explosm.net/comics/dave-beingoldsucks#comic )
[23:03]	TR Bot	& Happiness (Explosm.net)
[23:04]	psydroid2	Leo Laporte also sounds a bit like a douchebag
[23:04]	psydroid2	and then you have Jono Bacon eating bacon obviously sitting on his couch
[23:06]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165776
[23:06]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[23:06]	schestowitz_TR2	Leo cheated on his wifew
[23:06]	schestowitz_TR2	and IIRC his affair was exposed live
[23:06]	schestowitz_TR2	  a very major incident
[23:06]	schestowitz_TR2	but not tech-related
[23:06]	schestowitz_TR2	you can lok that up
[23:07]	schestowitz_TR2	but leave it out of this channel
[23:07]	schestowitz_TR2	as it would take us in the wrong directipon/topic
[23:07]	schestowitz_TR2	this happend around the same time they lobbied to oust RMS
[23:07]	schestowitz_TR2	in 2009
[23:07]	schestowitz_TR2	of course they failed
[23:08]	schestowitz_TR2	and the people involved mostly vanished after that
[23:10]	TR News	Heh. You will need an account with Microsoft proprietary software to get involved. This isn't what Free software developers should adopt. https://www.fosslife.org/5-easy-ways-learn-rust
[23:10]	TR Bot	 5 Easy Ways to Learn Rust
[23:11]	TR News	5 Vim features for power users | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/vim-power-commands Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux
[23:11]	TR Bot	 5 Vim features for power users | Enable Sysadmin
[23:12]	TR News	Microconferences at Linux Plumbers Conference: Compute Express Link - Linux Plumbers Conference 2022 https://lpc.events/blog/2022/index.php/2022/06/08/microconferences-at-linux-plumbers-conference-compute-express-link/ Source: lpc
[23:12]	TR Bot	 Microconferences at Linux Plumbers Conference: Compute Express Link Linux Plumbers Conference 2022
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[23:13]	TR News	ICBM is LYING again!!!! "In 2021 came The Great Resignation." No!!! In 2021 ICBM continues LYING OFF a TON of workers. Stop BLAMING THE VICTIM with self-serving mythology. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/asynchronous-remote-work-5-tips-success
[23:13]	TR Bot	 Asynchronous remote work: 5 tips for success | The Enterprisers Project
[23:14]	TR News	ICBM is shitting bricks because the worthless, clueless 'suits' cannot bully the staff "100% of the time" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/hybrid-work-team-connections
[23:14]	TR Bot	 3 ways to foster team connections in a hybrid workplace | The Enterprisers Project
[23:16]	TR News	Another project foolishly and recklessly outsource to Microsoft proprietary software, run by violent racists https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/06/08/9-awesome-updates-cryostat-21
[23:16]	TR Bot	 9 awesome updates in Cryostat 2.1 | Red Hat Developer
[23:17]	TR News	ICBM: let's publish some more nonsense about "hey hi" to sound sophisticated and very advanced https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/explaining-artificial-intelligence-governance-and-why-financial-institutions-need-it
[23:17]	TR Bot	 Explaining artificial intelligence governance - and why financial institutions need it
[23:20]	TR News	LPI is so dissapointing in recent years. Here again it promotes notorious Microsoft shill CompTIA https://www.fosslife.org/11-best-remote-tech-jobs see http://techrights.org/2009/05/29/idg-boosts-act-comptia/
[23:20]	TR Bot	 11 Best Remote Tech Jobs
[23:21]	TR Bot	 IDG, ACT, CompTIA and the Rest of the Microsoft AstroTurf | Techrights
[23:21]	TR News	Red Hat / IBM Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165777
[23:21]	TR Bot	 Red Hat / IBM Leftovers | Tux Machines
[23:21]	TR News	Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165778
[23:21]	TR Bot	 Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[23:22]	TR News	"At the start of May, we revved up a new Month of LibreOffice, celebrating community contributions all across the project. We do these every six months so how many people got sticker packs this time? Check it out" https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/06/08/winners-in-the-month-of-libreoffice-may-2022/
[23:22]	TR Bot	 Winners in the Month of LibreOffice, May 2022! - The Document Foundation Blog
[23:26]	TR News	Canonical at the Open Source Summit North America 2022 | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/open-source-summit-north-america-2022 Source: ubuntu
[23:26]	TR Bot	timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://ubuntu.com//blog/open-source-summit-north-america-2022 )
[23:27]	TR News	"Real-time Ubuntu is available for free for personal use via Ubuntu Advantage" https://ubuntu.com//blog/real-time-linux-qa they create tiers. Like ICBM...
[23:27]	TR Bot	intro to real-time Linux with Ubuntu | Ubuntu
[23:27]	TR News	The Apache Software Foundation Announces Apache AGE as a Top-Level Project : The Apache Software Foundation Blog https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-software-foundation-announces83 Source: apache
[23:27]	TR Bot	 The Apache Software Foundation Announces Apache AGE as a Top-Level Project : The Apache Software Foundation Blog
[23:28]	TR News	SUSE again shilling proprietary crap for SAP, instead of promoting some alternatives to that.... (just so you know what SUSE is and what it truly stands for) https://www.suse.com/c/suse-ha-for-sap-hana-scale-up-cost-optimized-improved/
[23:28]	TR Bot	HA for SAP HANA scale-up cost-optimized improved | SUSE Communities
[23:29]	TR News	"This is not an official post from GNOME Foundation nor am I part of the GNOME Foundations Board that is responsible for the policies mentioned in this post. However, I wanted to sum up the current situation as I understand it to let you know what is currently happening around app policies." https://blogs.gnome.org/sophieh/2022/06/08/apps-attempt-of-a-status-report/
[23:29]	TR Bot	 Apps: Attempt of a status report Sophie's Blog
[23:30]	TR News	EasyOS Dunfell-series 4.0 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165779
[23:30]	TR Bot	 EasyOS Dunfell-series 4.0 | Tux Machines
[23:30]	schestowitz_TR2	psydroid2: did you click?
[23:30]	schestowitz_TR2	it's an old video
[23:30]	schestowitz_TR2	and not one I'm proud of at all
[23:31]	TR News	No mention of the free software ones at all https://www.maketecheasier.com/identify-songs-from-movies-tv-shows/
[23:31]	TR Bot	 How to Identify Songs from Movies and TV Shows - Make Tech Easier
[23:32]	TR News	Back from Geekfaeries 2022 festival https://www.davidrevoy.com/article912/back-from-geekfaeries-2022-festival
[23:32]	TR Bot	 Back from Geekfaeries 2022 festival - David Revoy
[23:32]	psydroid2	schestowitz_TR2, those videos with you?
[23:33]	psydroid2	I listened to part 1
[23:33]	psydroid2	but not with a lot of attention
[23:33]	schestowitz_TR2	this is what happens when you opposwe these corporate shills
[23:33]	psydroid2	so I may have to listen to it again
[23:33]	schestowitz_TR2	they call YOU "controversial"
[23:33]	schestowitz_TR2	reversal of narrtives
[23:33]	psydroid2	I know
[23:33]	schestowitz_TR2	and I need to justify myself
[23:33]	schestowitz_TR2	they did not bring on Novell
[23:33]	schestowitz_TR2	and srutinised it
[23:33]	psydroid2	that's why I don't participate in them
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[23:34]	psydroid2	but it's good to know that Leo and Jono exposed themselves as scumbags
[23:34]	psydroid2	paid by the mafia
[23:34]	schestowitz_TR2	I've not gone on such shows since
[23:34]	schestowitz_TR2	waste of time
[23:34]	schestowitz_TR2	and their agenda is not what they claim
[23:34]	schestowitz_TR2	of course I did point out on the show (live) that it felt like an ambush
[23:35]	schestowitz_TR2	and jono was chasing me to skype (years before microsoft)
[23:35]	schestowitz_TR2	to try to get me to not be upset at him
[23:35]	schestowitz_TR2	heck, I probably have a< recording of that
[23:35]	schestowitz_TR2	not sure, but maybe...
[23:38]	psydroid2	they probably don't want people to know what they did to you
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[23:38]	schestowitz_TR2	leo tried to flatter me
[23:38]	schestowitz_TR2	about my bodybuilding
[23:38]	psydroid2	I guess this episode in particular isn't available anymore from their site or YouTube account
[23:38]	schestowitz_TR2	and then jono said I was like linus
[23:38]	schestowitz_TR2	or something like that
[23:39]	schestowitz_TR2	but on the show they took the side of the oppressors
[23:39]	schestowitz_TR2	and made excuses for it
[23:39]	schestowitz_TR2	jono had the audacity of holding m eaccountable for some random troll
[23:39]	schestowitz_TR2	who was not even in irc
[23:39]	schestowitz_TR2	just someone b eing rude to shuttleworth
[23:39]	schestowitz_TR2	jono's boss
[23:39]	schestowitz_TR2	he was working with team mono in the background
[23:39]	schestowitz_TR2	microssofter
[23:40]	psydroid2	lots of Gulagtubers are on the side of the oppressors
[23:40]	psydroid2	maybe all of them
[23:40]	schestowitz_TR2	and some sleazy Schlesinger who was threatening to due
[23:40]	schestowitz_TR2	who only camr tyo IRC to issue threats
[23:40]	schestowitz_TR2	and not just to me
[23:40]	psydroid2	because the minute they can make a quick buck they will sell their audience out
[23:40]	schestowitz_TR2	but also to people who had left comments
[23:40]	psydroid2	and themselves, of course
[23:40]	schestowitz_TR2	in gulagtube you need to play ball
[23:40]	schestowitz_TR2	or you get hidden, demonetised etc.
[23:40]	schestowitz_TR2	and it got a lot worse in recent years
[23:41]	schestowitz_TR2	the ruse was "disinfo"
[23:41]	schestowitz_TR2	even when it's just info
[23:41]	psydroid2	sounds like Stalinism
[23:41]	psydroid2	"you comply or else"
[23:41]	schestowitz_TR2	albeit not convenient to some well-connected people
[23:41]	schestowitz_TR2	hence GULAG
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