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| schestowitz | it's that idea that everything is God | Jul 08 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | and rejecting god is a religion | Jul 08 00:00 |
| MinceR | pretty stupid idea | Jul 08 00:00 |
| schestowitz | projection | Jul 08 00:00 |
| MinceR | and another stupid idea | Jul 08 00:00 |
| schestowitz | yeah, theists like to use that | Jul 08 00:00 |
| schestowitz | some of them accuse science of being "religion" | Jul 08 00:01 |
| schestowitz | where to start refuting THAT? | Jul 08 00:01 |
| MinceR | it's not possible to make them understand that they're wrong | Jul 08 00:01 |
| schestowitz | flying plane? religion. | Jul 08 00:01 |
| MinceR | that's the point of the religious mind: it doesn't work | Jul 08 00:01 |
| schestowitz | making medicine? religion | Jul 08 00:01 |
| schestowitz | They'd even tell you animals have rituals and "religion" | Jul 08 00:02 |
| schestowitz | cheapens the whole concept of divine beings, such as Santa | Jul 08 00:03 |
| schestowitz | https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/discuss-gnustep/2015-12/msg00168.html | Jul 08 00:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | Please, no GitHub | Jul 08 00:04 | |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 08 00:05 |
| MinceR | they can't play the game of "my god is stronger than your god" with someone who has no gods | Jul 08 00:05 |
| MinceR | a game they were desperate to play even before their religion was invented | Jul 08 00:06 |
| schestowitz | if it was invented, patent it | Jul 08 00:06 |
| kingoffrance | MinceR its gnosticism/alchemy | Jul 08 00:08 |
| kingoffrance | as above, so below | Jul 08 00:08 |
| kingoffrance | lords prayer type stuff | Jul 08 00:08 |
| kingoffrance | make earth like heaven, whatever | Jul 08 00:09 |
| kingoffrance | 7 seals are 7 planets too of course, so is jewish mennorah, astrotheology, etc. | Jul 08 00:09 |
| kingoffrance | its all just metaphors on top of metaphors | Jul 08 00:09 |
| kingoffrance | even nowadays you get ppl talking about aliens "im mercury-like, because i have a bubbly personality" ughh | Jul 08 00:10 |
| kingoffrance | that shit | Jul 08 00:10 |
| MinceR | doesn't answer my question | Jul 08 00:11 |
| MinceR | people may well believe that inventing a new god will make a new world, but it doesn't follow from that that if you want to make a new world, you need a new god | Jul 08 00:12 |
| MinceR | Seven Seals, Seven Rings, Seven Brides for the Crimson King | Jul 08 00:13 |
| MinceR | s/Crimson/Scarlet/ | Jul 08 00:13 |
| CrystalMath | well i wouldn't want to create a world where humans are gods, either | Jul 08 00:14 |
| CrystalMath | but again i wouldn't like a god that doesn't exist | Jul 08 00:14 |
| CrystalMath | especially not a human-like god that doesn't exist, that's the worst | Jul 08 00:14 |
| CrystalMath | so i would rather have nature to be our god | Jul 08 00:14 |
| MinceR | too bad, only those are in supply on this planet :> | Jul 08 00:14 |
| CrystalMath | and evolution its docrine | Jul 08 00:14 |
| CrystalMath | my believes are still erratic, but i think i'm probably converging to this | Jul 08 00:16 |
| kingoffrance | i try to stay on topic here, idont mean to derail | Jul 08 00:16 |
| kingoffrance | in unixland | Jul 08 00:16 |
| kingoffrance | e.g. everything is a file | Jul 08 00:16 |
| kingoffrance | i would say pretend that is "center of the unix universe" | Jul 08 00:16 |
| kingoffrance | it is generally a good idea to build stuff around that idea | Jul 08 00:16 |
| kingoffrance | for purposes of interoperability, and power/ease of use too | Jul 08 00:16 |
| CrystalMath | and "do one thing, do it right" | Jul 08 00:17 |
| kingoffrance | so, if you know the "prevailing paradigm" or whatever, i think such things is useful for programming | Jul 08 00:17 |
| kingoffrance | yup | Jul 08 00:17 |
| kingoffrance | i wouldnt say any single idea is true or false per se -- just know which land you arein | Jul 08 00:17 |
| kingoffrance | so you can try to work with the stream instead of against it | Jul 08 00:17 |
| kingoffrance | unless you are purposely trying to transform something | Jul 08 00:17 |
| kingoffrance | then do theo pposite | Jul 08 00:17 |
| kingoffrance | i would even say | Jul 08 00:18 |
| kingoffrance | you want to learn the prevailing paradigm(s) | Jul 08 00:18 |
| kingoffrance | else you are bound to not integrate properly | Jul 08 00:18 |
| kingoffrance | i jsut mean they wanted freedom of religion, so they are basically bound to abandon prior ideas of "god" | Jul 08 00:19 |
| kingoffrance | theyll never admit it though | Jul 08 00:19 |
| CrystalMath | evolution frees you maximally | Jul 08 00:19 |
| CrystalMath | it means, you're on your own | Jul 08 00:19 |
| kingoffrance | i dont think this stuff matters | Jul 08 00:21 |
| kingoffrance | except anyone pretending neutral is always an act IMO | Jul 08 00:21 |
| kingoffrance | theres always some "center" of anything IMO | Jul 08 00:22 |
| kingoffrance | declared or undeclared | Jul 08 00:22 |
| kingoffrance | explicit or pretend-"neutral" | Jul 08 00:22 |
| kingoffrance | its just knowing the core of an idea, and at what point might it stretch until the meaning is lost | Jul 08 00:23 |
| CrystalMath | well i don't think it's neutral | Jul 08 00:23 |
| CrystalMath | what i'm saying is politically probably very-far-right | Jul 08 00:24 |
| CrystalMath | that is, i believe in 100% individualism, 0% collectivism | Jul 08 00:24 |
| CrystalMath | private roads | Jul 08 00:24 |
| kingoffrance | if you are trying to overthrow e.g. unix, replace this "everything is a file" would be main point of attack IMO | Jul 08 00:24 |
| kingoffrance | or at least one of them | Jul 08 00:24 |
| kingoffrance | so tis good to know whether youare trying to preserve or overthrow something | Jul 08 00:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like the Swiss during WWII. "Have fun dying to protect us, everybody else!". | Jul 08 00:25 |
| kingoffrance | like o## whoever said, if languages are data structures, thats your "essence" to either preserve or try to destroy | Jul 08 00:25 |
| kingoffrance | s/o##/scientes/ | Jul 08 00:26 |
| MinceR | 08 011908 < kingoffrance> i jsut mean they wanted freedom of religion, so they are basically bound to abandon prior ideas of "god" | Jul 08 00:27 |
| MinceR | not necessary | Jul 08 00:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a certain twisted logic in being glad there's twice as many daily cases. | Jul 08 00:27 |
| MinceR | it's possible for one person to believe in a particular religion without forcing anything on anyone else | Jul 08 00:27 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Much less time remaining until it does whatever it's going to do and then blows over. | Jul 08 00:27 |
| MinceR | 08 012434 < kingoffrance> if you are trying to overthrow e.g. unix, replace this "everything is a file" would be main point of attack IMO | Jul 08 00:27 |
| MinceR | and indeed the main line of attack is "everything is systemd" | Jul 08 00:27 |
| kingoffrance | lol | Jul 08 00:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just kill all these people who are going to vote for Trump befroe the election, would you please? | Jul 08 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know? | Jul 08 00:28 |
| kingoffrance | i think monarchy, at least absolute, the king was in center and everything around was descending layers of authority perhaps; maybe not 100%, but i think that was the general assumption or baseline | Jul 08 00:28 |
| kingoffrance | circles around that center point | Jul 08 00:28 |
| kingoffrance | so it lets you determine hierarchy too IMO | Jul 08 00:29 |
| kingoffrance | kernel == nucleus i suppose | Jul 08 00:29 |
| MinceR | https://doomwiki.org/wiki/MAP30:_Nucleus_(Icarus:_Alien_Vanguard) | Jul 08 00:29 |
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| kingoffrance | tihs stuff comes up too | Jul 08 00:30 |
| kingoffrance | e.g. america i read an old thing | Jul 08 00:30 |
| kingoffrance | what about all this feudal law we inherited from english common law, that was somewhat feudal depending on situatino | Jul 08 00:31 |
| kingoffrance | they basically said "replace <king> with <we the people> and if it still makes sense, then its still good law" | Jul 08 00:31 |
| kingoffrance | people dont think like that | Jul 08 00:31 |
| kingoffrance | but stuff like that, you have to know the old ystem to translate into the new | Jul 08 00:31 |
| kingoffrance | or replace <whatever title> | Jul 08 00:32 |
| kingoffrance | that was an old congress IIRC | Jul 08 00:33 |
| kingoffrance | that was the ruel they came up with | Jul 08 00:33 |
| kingoffrance | perhaps just unofficial but yeah | Jul 08 00:33 |
| kingoffrance | people dont think like that because they think there is some clean break | Jul 08 00:34 |
| kingoffrance | but everything is based on something prior i suppose | Jul 08 00:34 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: 941 deaths now, it might make it past 1,000, which is a threshold that helps make a point | Jul 08 00:35 |
| kingoffrance | at least at the start, before it starts differentianting itself | Jul 08 00:35 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: progress on the report? | Jul 08 04:10 |
| schestowitz | drm https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-chromecast-apps-to-enjoy-videos-on-big-screen/ | Jul 08 04:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntupit.com | The 20 Best Chromecast Apps to Enjoy Videos on Big Screen | Jul 08 04:39 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Reddit is demanding Widevine to play videos that people upload. | Jul 08 08:38 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: need help | Jul 08 09:30 |
| schestowitz | where's that video of carlin on N word? | Jul 08 09:30 |
| schestowitz | the one you posted here.. | Jul 08 09:30 |
| schestowitz | It's for an article | Jul 08 09:30 |
| zoobab | was on Holiday | Jul 08 10:17 |
| zoobab | just in time to send the FFII answer to UPC consultation | Jul 08 10:18 |
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| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/tolerance.jpg | Jul 08 10:48 |
| kingoffrance | lol | Jul 08 10:52 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FUpttuzlxA | Jul 08 11:28 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: cheers | Jul 08 11:32 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/07/06/libreoffice-personal-edition/ | Jul 08 12:07 |
| schestowitz | # I missed the announcements and resulting FUD, what is the context? | Jul 08 12:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | LibreOffice ‘Personal Edition’ Seems Like a Marketing and Communication Fluke | Techrights | Jul 08 12:07 | |
| schestowitz | (to iophk) All the context is inside that post in the links below; with one of two more blog posts published since then, | Jul 08 12:07 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: LibreOffice wants to label their builds to emphasise that special builds from, err, partners are better suited for enterprise needs. | Jul 08 12:13 |
| XRevan86 | The wording chosen caused questions about whether it is misleading. | Jul 08 12:15 |
| XRevan86 | Because of course LibreOffice remains FOSS (duh, it's copyleft without CLA), but some might get an impression that for corporate use they *need* a separate enterprise licence. | Jul 08 12:16 |
| MinceR | so they're selling out their users to their "partners"? | Jul 08 12:16 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: They try to promote them. I guess that maybe commercial companies annoy them with bug reports in a demanding tone not realising no one owes them anything, I don't know. | Jul 08 12:19 |
| XRevan86 | They're also planning on making a commercial website for LibreOffice. Not sure how that's going to look like. | Jul 08 12:22 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe some kind of directory of enterprise versions… | Jul 08 12:24 |
| XRevan86 | Doesn't seem to go the direction of MariaDB Corporation. | Jul 08 12:25 |
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| schestowitz | XRevan86: like COllabora? | Jul 08 12:41 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I don't know, haven't seen any list. I'm waiting for them to make a website already. | Jul 08 12:45 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: But I guess so, they have Collabora Office. | Jul 08 12:48 |
| XRevan86 | > Putin's logic something along the lines of, when #corruption is exposed people get angry and angry people are more likely to do something violent, hence people who expose some crime or #corruption (like #assange / #wikileaks with US #warcrimes ) are the 'real' criminals | Jul 08 12:55 |
| XRevan86 | What Putin & co. usually say is that those who expose corruption are actually traitors who want to destablise the political climate and destroy sovereignty. | Jul 08 12:55 |
| XRevan86 | Regime calls it a boat, opposition calls it a swamp. | Jul 08 12:59 |
| schestowitz | I see | Jul 08 13:06 |
| schestowitz | ● NEWS ● #meduza #ru #russia #IvanSafronov ☞ Ivan Safronov’s reporting Russian federal agents have filed treason charges against a journalist who wrote extensively on the space and defense industries. Here are excerpts from some of his most important stories. https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/07/07/ivan-safronov-s-reporting | Jul 08 13:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Jul 08 13:06 | |
| schestowitz | I am catching up with this one at the moment | Jul 08 13:06 |
| schestowitz | like rappler ad duterte in some sense | Jul 08 13:06 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: schestowitz with the libreoffice one I really think they are seeing a problem with income and the like to keep the project alive and are going the wrong way to solve it. | Jul 08 13:14 |
| oiaohm | I look to blender and the blender cloud as a very good model. | Jul 08 13:14 |
| oiaohm | Office suite users do have different consumables they will buy or pay for access to the latest most current versions of like like fonts, stock images, templates. So a cloud like the blender cloud could be setup for Libreoffice as a income stream. | Jul 08 13:15 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Personality cults are annoying. | Jul 08 13:17 |
| schestowitz | https://lwn.net/Articles/672963/ | Jul 08 13:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes [LWN.net] | Jul 08 13:21 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 08 13:21 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, he dodged the question really well. | Jul 08 13:21 |
| schestowitz | I find it frustrating that the zealots who managed to derail the conversation about the LF getting rid of community representation into a gender-based discussion essentially gave Jim a great way of 'addressing' the situation without saying anything material on the matter. How it is even remotely relevant whether a lawyer who's part of a lawsuit against one of the members of the Linux Foundation AND is potentially running for the board | Jul 08 13:21 |
| schestowitz | has a dick or not escapes me entirely but Jim obviously jumped on the opportunity it gave him to talk about what would otherwise have been an important topic. I wasn't even aware of this part of the conversation until he brought it up (and I'd rather continued to be oblivious of it, I'm ashamed enough as it is for my community's (foss') behavior towards minorities). | Jul 08 13:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 08 13:21 |
| MinceR | inb4 what matters is not whether the member has a dick but whether they feel that inside they really are an attack helicopter | Jul 08 13:29 |
| cybrNaut | Facebook named Breitbart News a “trusted news source” lol wtf | Jul 08 13:49 |
| MinceR | lol | Jul 08 13:52 |
| MinceR | so much for averting fake news | Jul 08 13:52 |
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| scientes | I wish i had a ZEN 2 threadripper | Jul 08 15:11 |
| scientes | to compile llvm | Jul 08 15:11 |
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| schestowitz | scientes: with gcc | Jul 08 15:26 |
| scientes | schestowitz, most of llvm is auto-generated c++ | Jul 08 15:26 |
| scientes | maybe half | Jul 08 15:26 |
| oiaohm | Makes generator errors highly creative with llvm. | Jul 08 15:30 |
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| scientes | I regret I didn't get the 6-core laptop | Jul 08 15:32 |
| scientes | instead of the 3-core | Jul 08 15:32 |
| scientes | *4-core | Jul 08 15:32 |
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| oiaohm | scientes: some ways with the lack of cooling in a lot of laptops having more cores can sometimes not help with code builds. | Jul 08 15:40 |
| scientes | especially when it is 30deg ambient temperature | Jul 08 15:40 |
| oiaohm | I have desktop machines with quite heavy aircoolers. | Jul 08 15:41 |
| scientes | DEV1-S €0.006/hour or €2.99/month €0.01/hour or €4.99/month | Jul 08 15:41 |
| scientes | ffff | Jul 08 15:41 |
| scientes | scaleway price increases | Jul 08 15:41 |
| scientes | *increases* | Jul 08 15:42 |
| scientes | computers are suppose to get cheaper | Jul 08 15:42 |
| oiaohm | noctua nh-d15 cooler weights in at 1320 or roughly half the weight of average weight laptop. | Jul 08 15:43 |
| oiaohm | scientes: labour and power costs come into hosting costs. | Jul 08 15:45 |
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| XRevan86 | > Hi LoadAverage Team, | Jul 08 16:43 |
| XRevan86 | > I'm Alex, from BestVPN.org, reaching out because of the soon-to-be discontinued service you mentioned on your page. | Jul 08 16:43 |
| XRevan86 | I think I'll ignore that one. | Jul 08 16:43 |
| XRevan86 | The strangest thing is that GNU social now adds robots: noindex to remote pages, yet these guys keep finding them on ldavg | Jul 08 16:45 |
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| XN72 | Hi I saw an article about WIPO which was issues in 2017 | Jul 08 17:30 |
| XN72 | about Fransis Gurry, WIPO DG | Jul 08 17:30 |
| XN72 | i have evidence about Gurry and his administration covering up sexual harassment and assault at WIPO | Jul 08 17:30 |
| XN72 | and about brutal retaliation against the victim | Jul 08 17:30 |
| XN72 | i also have evidence of WIPO member states being well informed about the case and ignored the request to investigate WIPO administration | Jul 08 17:31 |
| XN72 | http://www.innercitypress.com/ungate1gutsexabusewipoicp061820.html | Jul 08 17:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.innercitypress.com | UN Sexual Abuse By Guterres Spreads to ICAO WIPO and UNOPS Amid Ban on Press Asking | Jul 08 17:32 | |
| XN72 | Some info van be found on this web site | Jul 08 17:32 |
| XN72 | let me know if you are interested in reporting the case details | Jul 08 17:32 |
| XN72 | the evidence is available in writing | Jul 08 17:33 |
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| schestowitz | [17:32] <XN72> let me know if you are interested in reporting the case details | Jul 08 21:39 |
| schestowitz | no contact details left? | Jul 08 21:39 |
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| schestowitz | leads to https://www.cjr.org/the_profile/reporter-expelled-un.php | Jul 08 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cjr.org | The intrepid reporter who got expelled from the UN - Columbia Journalism Review | Jul 08 21:43 | |
| schestowitz | but no contact details | Jul 08 21:44 |
| schestowitz | "https://www.cjr.org/the_profile/reporter-expelled-un.php" | Jul 08 21:44 |
| schestowitz | 'The exact circumstances of Lee’s expulsion are murky. “Just like the White House, access is not a right, it’s a privilege,” Dujarric says. “None of this is happening now because of what he writes.” Dujarric says that Lee is often critical of fellow journalists; walking the halls in the evenings, he’ll live-stream running commentary criticizing other reporters. Not long ago, encountering a crew from Al Jazeera—which Lee | Jul 08 21:45 |
| schestowitz | believes has misled viewers about its connection to the Qatari government—Dujarric says that Lee Periscoped while shouting, “Fuck you!” repeatedly. (Lee says he was complaining that Dujarric had given the Al Jazeera crew a private interview, and excluded him.) “He creates an atmosphere of incivility within our working environment,” Dujarric says." | Jul 08 21:45 |
| schestowitz | https://pressfreedomtracker.us/all-incidents/independent-journalist-matt-lee-forcibly-removed-un-stripped-press-credentials/ | Jul 08 21:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pressfreedomtracker.us | Independent journalist Matt Lee forcibly removed from UN, stripped of press credentials - U.S. Press Freedom Tracker | Jul 08 21:46 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 08 21:47 |
| schestowitz | The UN run by Antonio Guterres, who daily covers up child rapes by UN peacekeepers by withholding information that even his predecessor Ban Ki-moon used to give upon Press request, is increasingly characterized by sexual harassment and abuse. | Jul 08 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Here is part of yet another sample account submitted to Inner City Press since the state media and retirees Guterres and Melissa Fleming let in collude with these two, and Spokespeople Stephane Dujarric, Farhan Haq and Eri Kaneko refuse to answer any even written questions from Inner City Press which they have been 716 days and counting: | Jul 08 21:47 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 08 21:47 |
| schestowitz | Based on his twitter account, he's specialised in UN affairs | Jul 08 21:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This Reddit demanding Widevine to view videos thing is troubling. | Jul 08 22:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So much for "premium content and the rest of the web is safe". | Jul 08 22:07 |
| schestowitz | reddit itself is troublign | Jul 08 22:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I tried switching UAs to see if they tried treating Safari on Mac any different. | Jul 08 22:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It still demanded Widevine. | Jul 08 22:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Okay, when you switch it to report Safari on Mac when queried through Javascript, it stops demanding Widevine and plays the video. :/ | Jul 08 22:12 |
| schestowitz | just leave reddit | Jul 08 22:14 |
| schestowitz | waste of time site | Jul 08 22:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.reddit.com/r/modhelp/comments/hn4w5s/reddit_keeps_wanting_to_install_google_widevine/ | Jul 08 22:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reddit keeps wanting to install Google Widevine : modhelp | Jul 08 22:15 | |
| schestowitz | btw, how is your task coming along... tsk tsk | Jul 08 22:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ugh. | Jul 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | we need something | Jul 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | that's the whole point | Jul 08 22:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sorry, I've had a million things popping up at once. | Jul 08 22:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I thought I'd have more time for this. | Jul 08 22:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only reason I even noticed this Reddit thing is it loaded in a pinned tab and Firefox said "This site requires you to install DRM.". | Jul 08 22:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Okay, so apparently it loads a script that demands the DRM module and performs a bunch of fingerprinting attacks on the browser. | Jul 08 22:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you block the domain that loads the script, you can play the videos without the DRM module. | Jul 08 22:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's.....interesting. | Jul 08 22:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | # Creepy script on Reddit | Jul 08 22:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | ||udkcrj.com^ | Jul 08 22:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That fixes it. | Jul 08 22:31 |
| CrystalMath | i browse it with elinks | Jul 08 22:32 |
| CrystalMath | haven't noticed :D | Jul 08 22:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Firefox took the no-eme builds out back and shot them and most Linux distributions leave it turned on even though its only job is to load a proprietary DRM blob that does god knows what. | Jul 08 22:37 |
| kingoffrance | "reddit is troubling" yep | Jul 08 22:39 |
| kingoffrance | i guess, i never got into it in the first place | Jul 08 22:39 |
| psydread | I think such forum functionality could be useful, but now it's just a centralised aggregator of forums that should be operated independently and not for profit | Jul 08 22:41 |
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| CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m]: the default is to ask you | Jul 08 22:52 |
| CrystalMath | then you can disable it | Jul 08 22:52 |
| CrystalMath | but yeah it's crappy | Jul 08 22:52 |
| CrystalMath | just use ELinks :P | Jul 08 22:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No. The default is to ask you, and then if you ignore it, to keep asking you until you say yes. | Jul 08 22:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you want it to shut up, you have to dive into about:config. | Jul 08 22:53 |
| CrystalMath | or in about:preferences | Jul 08 22:53 |
| CrystalMath | [ ] Play DRM Content | Jul 08 22:54 |
| schestowitz | US covid19 count +49,345 and 3 more hours to go | Jul 08 22:56 |
| schestowitz | quite a timing to leave WHO as if that will make the issue just 'go away' | Jul 08 22:56 |
| schestowitz | 3,146,429 cases. 3 more days and it's 1% of the population. | Jul 08 22:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ironically, again, it's probably Apple that's the reason why Widevine hasn't strangled the open web more than it already has. | Jul 08 22:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Obviously they're in a food fight with a competitor over which DRM system to use and sites that want to work right across the board need to set it to none and maybe settle for obfuscating how to get at the video file. | Jul 08 23:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "US covid19 count +49,345 and 3 m"> Yes, Illinois daily cases are up by about a third. Ohio too. | Jul 08 23:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It'll get to Indiana and Michigan very soon. | Jul 08 23:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "quite a timing to leave WHO as i"> Trump's position here is that the WHO misled us on behalf of China. | Jul 08 23:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | While I support the decision to leave the WHO, I do not support why it is being done. | Jul 08 23:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | An election year stunt to deflect from the fact that he screwed up and politicized the CDC. | Jul 08 23:03 |
| kingoffrance | yep | Jul 08 23:04 |
| kingoffrance | noone made a peep about who until this stuff | Jul 08 23:04 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | He's angry because the WHO lied to protect China and all the Chinese money it gets, which will stop if it doesn't placate them. | Jul 08 23:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At the same time, he wants the CDC to get behind his own pants on fire lie that it's basically over and we just need to move on. | Jul 08 23:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The US is in a fiscal crisis among lots of other things and I'm sick and tired of funding all of these "world" organizations that exist to serve a bunch of terrorists and Communists. | Jul 08 23:23 |
| schestowitz | it's a generalisation | Jul 08 23:24 |
| schestowitz | some of them protect oligarchs and corporations | Jul 08 23:25 |
| schestowitz | not "a bunch of terrorists and Communists." | Jul 08 23:25 |
| schestowitz | But rather another type of organised crimes | Jul 08 23:25 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: 52k cases | Jul 08 23:25 |
| schestowitz | maybe another record by day's end, if that matters... deaths might be 900 | Jul 08 23:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's what this is. | Jul 08 23:25 |
| schestowitz | now our gov. | Jul 08 23:26 |
| schestowitz | seeing that people don't go to shops | Jul 08 23:26 |
| schestowitz | esp. dining places | Jul 08 23:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They like to stick us in the eye to make Cuba, China, Iran, North Korea, and various Arab countries that are so backwards that without a fuckton of oil they'd have no money at all. | Jul 08 23:26 |
| schestowitz | offers to subsidide 50% of diners' bill | Jul 08 23:26 |
| schestowitz | it was predictable that people would be hesitant and lack confidence to dine out | Jul 08 23:26 |
| schestowitz | you don't know who sneezed on the table | Jul 08 23:27 |
| schestowitz | or used that plate of the silverware | Jul 08 23:27 |
| schestowitz | you don't know if the people in the till, those who wait table or cook all are "clean" | Jul 08 23:27 |
| schestowitz | so they can open | Jul 08 23:27 |
| schestowitz | and even offer 50% off | Jul 08 23:28 |
| schestowitz | but the business is still not viable | Jul 08 23:28 |
| schestowitz | and with distancing policies in place you might as well enjoy eating at home | Jul 08 23:28 |
| schestowitz | We still don't know what it means to gym and spa | Jul 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | esp. spa | Jul 08 23:29 |
| schestowitz | or shared shower facilities | Jul 08 23:29 |
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| schestowitz | reopening schools.. | Jul 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | based on the presumption that kids are safe though they can pass it around between households | Jul 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | so there's mere pretense the economy can imminently recover | Jul 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | tomorrow we go out to eat curry | Jul 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | first time since March | Jul 08 23:30 |
| schestowitz | but I still feel a little hesitant about it... maybe people still refuse to visit barber shops | Jul 08 23:31 |
| schestowitz | many occupations will be goners by year's end, people had time to adapt and find workaround like hair trimming at home | Jul 08 23:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've been shaving my head to avoid the barber. | Jul 08 23:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's bad out there. I think we have another 6 months of this. | Jul 08 23:32 |
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| CrystalMath | i've been cutting my own hair for years | Jul 08 23:36 |
| CrystalMath | all i cut is my bangs anyway | Jul 08 23:37 |
| CrystalMath | well, those are just, trimmed | Jul 08 23:37 |
| CrystalMath | so basically no cutting needed at all :P | Jul 08 23:37 |
| kingoffrance | yeah, i was already that cheap | Jul 08 23:37 |
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| kingoffrance | long before covid | Jul 08 23:37 |
| CrystalMath | but barbershops are open here | Jul 08 23:38 |
| CrystalMath | and working normally | Jul 08 23:38 |
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| CrystalMath | everyone's just wondering why there's a second wave now :P | Jul 08 23:38 |
| schestowitz | where the numbers were bad to begin with | Jul 08 23:41 |
| schestowitz | here they say they find only about 500 new cases per day | Jul 08 23:41 |
| schestowitz | which is plausible, I did not check how many are being tested a day | Jul 08 23:42 |
| schestowitz | oh, wait | Jul 08 23:42 |
| schestowitz | it says like a quarter million in the past day? | Jul 08 23:43 |
| schestowitz | Can't be true, can it? | Jul 08 23:43 |
| schestowitz | 581 new cases found among almost 300,000 tested? | Jul 08 23:43 |
| schestowitz | That's one in 600 | Jul 08 23:43 |
| schestowitz | or less, I'm rounding things up | Jul 08 23:43 |
| schestowitz | they restrict movement based on district worse affected with more new cases in them | Jul 08 23:44 |
| schestowitz | the dead are probably mostly the very old and trail, who also tested positive at some stage | Jul 08 23:44 |
| schestowitz | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53268594 | Jul 08 23:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Coronavirus: Chancellor Rishi Sunak unveils £30bn plan to save jobs - BBC News | Jul 08 23:45 | |
| schestowitz | bbc propaganda | Jul 08 23:45 |
| schestowitz | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53337170 | Jul 08 23:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Chancellor gives diners 50% off on eating out - BBC News | Jul 08 23:45 | |
| oiaohm | You got to be kidding me. | Jul 08 23:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can't tell why this script is attempting to load Widevine. | Jul 08 23:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Could be to see if the user has it on and get fingerprinting data from it, or it could be an attempt to use it to load malware. | Jul 08 23:57 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Australia has been working on assisting eating places to-do more take away. https://foodsafety.asn.au/topic/coronavirus-covid-19-and-food-safety-your-questions-answered-3-april-2020/ The food bit is not the problem its the aerosol. 50% off eating out is really the wrong thing. | Jul 08 23:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-foodsafety.asn.au Coronavirus/COVID-19 and food safety: your questions answered (3 April 2020) - foodsafety.asn.au | Jul 08 23:59 | |
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