●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, July 08, 2022 ●● ● Jul 08 [00:05] TR News Microsoft Edge share fell again this past month [00:07] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/funny-pictures-7-29-22-4.jpg [00:08] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:08] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:26] XRevan86 https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1545161423583690755 [00:26] TR Bot Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Russian propagandists plot to provoke unrest in the US, harming us in every way they can. They pine for Trump's return and point out thatdespite his looks & other causes for criticismhe is their best option. State TV host exclaims, "Trump, Trump, Trump!""|nitter [00:35] XRevan86 https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/07/7/7356795/ [00:36] TR Bot Turkey released a ship with grain coming from occupied Berdiansk; Ukrainian Foreign Ministry summoned the ambassador | Ukrayinska Pravda [00:37] *swaggboi has quit (Read error: Connection timed out) [00:38] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights [00:40] MinceR (cat) (audio:music) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/eDvhjkn.mp4 [00:45] XRevan86 https://nitter.net/TheDeadDistrict/status/1544585188054810624 efficient [00:45] TR Bot (@TheDeadDistrict): "New level of APC of the Russian Army"|nitter [00:46] MinceR lol [00:47] MinceR somewhat reminiscent of the hungarian assault jacuzzi [00:48] MinceR https://i.imgur.com/rgVZyUU.jpg [00:49] schestowitz[TR] assault uzi? [00:49] MinceR no [00:49] schestowitz[TR] jack uzi? [00:49] TR News This Month Mozilla Firefox Reached Its Lowest Share (Just 3%), But CEO Baker Made a Fortune (Especially When Mozilla Sank) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/baker-salaries/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/07/baker-salaries/ [00:49] TR Bot This Month Mozilla Firefox Reached Its Lowest Share (Just 3%), But CEO Baker Made a Fortune (Especially When Mozilla Sank) | Techrights [00:50] XRevan86 MinceR: More comfortable than a conventional armored vehicle. [00:50] MinceR until they start shooting from above [00:50] MinceR and then it becomes markedly less comfortable [00:50] schestowitz[TR] hot stuff! [00:50] XRevan86 MinceR: To whom? [00:50] MinceR to the occupants [00:50] MinceR the surviving ones, anyway [00:50] XRevan86 MinceR: They can't get uncomfortable when they're dead. [00:50] MinceR :> [00:51] TR News r600/sfn: rewrite NIR backend (!17076) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/17076 Source: gitlab [00:51] TR Bot r600/sfn: rewrite NIR backend (!17076) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab [00:53] TR News With 34k posts were pushing some limits and ponder contingencies http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/34k-posts/ [00:53] TR Bot 34,000 Blog Posts | Techrights [00:53] TR News Adoption of static pages (or sites with static files) makes a lot of pragmatic sense; with feature churn and adoration of frameworks the Web became a sordid, overweight mess that harms the environment in all sorts of ways and unnecessarily drives up cost http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/big-content-management-systems-are-debt/ [00:53] TR Bot Making Our Own Lightweight Content Management System | Techrights [00:54] TR News 6 Reasons Why Linux Doesnt Need an Antivirus or Firewall Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166972 [00:54] TR Bot 6 Reasons Why Linux Doesnt Need an Antivirus or Firewall | Tux Machines [00:54] schestowitz[TR] MinceR: They can't get uncomfortable when they're dead. [00:54] schestowitz[TR] esp. if they lived under putting [00:54] schestowitz[TR] they might be more comfortable asd dead [00:54] schestowitz[TR] Valadimir putting them 6 feet under [00:54] schestowitz[TR] with zinc [00:55] schestowitz[TR] gn [00:55] XRevan86 It's Hungarian though. [00:55] MinceR "Stupid! Stupid! Stupid imp! You're stupid! And you're gonna be stupid and dead!" [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 08 [01:11] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [01:18] *bnchs (~bnchs@e4yvvz4msnes6.irc) has joined #techrights [01:31] *matey (~matey@rfm83qjeum9ga.irc) has joined #techrights [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 08 [02:01] matey 34,000 Blog Posts (about systemd + microsoft) [02:01] matey none of which explain the situation (because there isnt one) [02:02] matey This Month Mozilla Firefox Reached Its Lowest Share (Just 3%), But CEO Baker Made a Fortune (Especially When Mozilla Sank) <- this is interesting [02:02] matey do some mozilla = microsoft posts next [02:02] matey mozilla IS microsoft, just like systemd is [02:02] matey and thats not news either [02:04] matey no one ever got fired for converting a non-profit into a shell corporation and milking the project for cash [02:04] matey maybe shes blowing the securities and exchange commission [02:05] matey maybe they get a cut, who knows [02:05] matey they used to give a shit [02:05] matey or at least did a better job pretending [02:05] matey kind of like mozilla itself [02:05] matey "thats sexist" [02:05] matey okay. [02:06] matey maybe kuhn is too. [02:06] matey since hes as worthless as baker [02:06] matey we already know everyone at the fsf sucks [02:07] matey "but stallman is there" [02:07] matey no he fucking isnt [02:07] matey thats a genetic clone they made from openly stolen sperm [02:08] matey the open sperm foundation cloned him [02:08] matey i mean open sperm initiative [02:08] matey founded by bruce sporens and eric sperm raymond [02:08] matey it was never about free software, we knew that [02:09] matey it was always about cloning [02:10] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [02:12] matey 0. the freedom to use stallmans dna freely, for any purpose 1. the freedom to study stallmans dna 2. the freedom to clone his dna and distribute clones 3. the freedom to change his dna and distribute modified clones for taking over the movement for corporations [02:13] matey join us now and steal stallmans sperm [02:13] matey https://techrights.org/2020/09/24/father-of-open-source-movement/ [02:13] TR Bot If Im the Father of Open Source, It Was Done by Artificial Insemination With Stolen Sperm | Techrights [02:13] matey "If I'm the Father of Open Source, It Was Done by Artificial Insemination With Stolen Sperm" [02:14] matey https://techrights.org/2020/09/01/open-source-initiative/ The Open Source Initiative in 2020 is Purely Farcical [02:14] TR Bot The Open Source Initiative in 2020 is Purely Farcical | Techrights [02:14] matey so is the fsf [02:14] *bnchs has quit (Quit: Lost terminal) [02:14] *bnchs (~bnchs@e4yvvz4msnes6.irc) has joined #techrights [02:15] matey It Was Done by Artificial Insemination (hey hi?) [02:16] *bnchs has quit (Quit: leaving) [02:16] matey is that how tesla works too [02:16] *bnchs (~bnchs@e4yvvz4msnes6.irc) has joined #techrights [02:16] matey is there a tank for it? (where do you get it filled) [02:18] matey Man who has his sperm stolen and used for IVF wins case that forces doctors involved to pay child support for the children instead of him (Germany) [02:19] matey Has Microsoft Stolen UNIX Ideas? | Techrights techrights.org/2006/12/09/unix-nt/ [02:19] matey more fake news [02:20] matey https://techrights.org/2009/12/01/gates-microsoft-tax/ Pressure Mounts on Bill and Steve to Repay Stolen Money | Techrights [02:20] TR Bot Pressure Mounts on Bill and Steve to Repay Stolen Money | Techrights [02:20] matey so that was 12, 13 years ago [02:20] matey did they ever have to repay it? [02:20] matey no. [02:20] matey so was there really pressure? [02:20] matey no. [02:20] matey was it bullshit? [02:20] matey /me nods [02:21] matey over the next 12, 13 years expect more such fake news [02:21] matey The Open Source Initiative in 2020 is Purely Farcical | Techrights [02:22] matey also in 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001 [02:22] matey in 2000 it was at least 50% farcical [02:22] matey in 1999 it was at least 35% farcical [02:23] matey on the day it was founded it was at least 29% farcical [02:23] matey but in 2020, surprise! 100 percent! (like dove soap) [02:23] matey 100% pure (bullshit) [02:24] matey at the current rate, next year it will be 200% bullshit [02:25] matey but the fsf? only 199% [02:25] matey join today and help them reach their goal of 250% bs [02:26] matey their video about mushrooms in caves and people who can fly using pogo sticks (but also having a magic walking stick?) was a good start [02:27] matey with your support they can do even more of that while pumping traffic and ultimately directing funders towards systemd (which is microsoft) [02:28] matey and people who can fly using pogo sticks <- if they can fly why do they need pogo sticks [02:28] matey maybe using a pogo stick is more fun than flying [02:28] matey but in a cave it just sounds dangerous on a number of levels [02:29] matey if youre flying you can avoid stalactites by flying lower [02:29] matey if youre on a pogo stick you wont see what youre bouncing into [02:29] *bnchs has quit (Quit: leaving) [02:30] matey the uneven terrain is terrible for pogo sticking [02:30] matey and thats just the beginning of reasons you shouldnt use a pogo stick in a cave [02:31] matey but again, if you can fly, why the fuck would you even need one? [02:31] matey maybe lennart decided pogo sticks were best [02:31] matey maybe ibm makes them and they had to find a bunch of suckers to unload them on [02:31] matey "these people can fly, wtf do they need pogo sticks for" [02:31] matey 'they can also script, wtf do they need systemd for?" [02:31] matey "fair point" [02:32] matey its a scripting language, its a configuration file [02:32] matey wait until systemd config files become scripted [02:32] matey thatll be priceless [02:33] matey /me thinks the systemd scripting language should be called pogostick [02:33] matey either that or powershell [02:34] matey (since its microsoft) [02:36] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-070722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-070722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-070722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-070722.txt [02:36] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, July 07, 2022 [02:36] matey Links 07/07/2022: wxWidgets 3.2.0 Released and Microsoft is Attacking Free, Libre Software (Pretences Over) [02:37] matey of course they were attacking before [02:37] matey but now theyre REALLY doing it [02:37] matey in 2022 [02:37] matey 2021: mostly doing it [02:37] matey 2022: for real now! [02:37] matey 2019: ... [02:37] TR News Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-070722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-070722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-070722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-070722.txt [02:37] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, July 07, 2022 [02:37] matey wheres that monkey puppet [02:38] matey Microsoft is Attacking Free, Libre Software (Pretences Over) <- whats actually new [02:38] matey whats actually new [02:38] matey seriously, whats actually new [02:38] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-070722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-070722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-070722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-070722.txt [02:38] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, July 07, 2022 [02:38] matey oh the POST is new [02:38] matey okay [02:39] matey techrights is covering microsoft attacking free, libre software (Pretences Over) [02:39] matey retraction: techrights is covering microsoft attacking free, libre software (Pretences Over) (maybe) [02:39] TR News Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-070722.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-070722.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-070722.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-070722.txt [02:39] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, July 07, 2022 [02:39] matey open source is occupying the fsf, turning free software into "open source" (Pretences Over) [02:40] matey fsf only cares about corporations, as evident in every single thing they do (Pretences Over) [02:40] matey we reblog things, then we hype them up and later water them down again (Pretences Over) [02:41] matey imagine! if the pretences were REALLY over (Pretences Over) [02:41] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-07-07.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-07-07.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:41] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NicWjYMPDG0 [02:41] TR Bot Julian Lennon Performs 'IMAGINE' for Global Citizen's Stand Up For Ukraine w/Nuno Bettencourt - Invidious [02:44] matey microsoft has been attacking free software since 1990-fucking-8 [02:44] matey but you said it was someone else [02:44] matey who was it? aquaman? [02:48] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=AtK_YsVInw8 [02:48] TR Bot George Carlin - advertising and bull shit - Invidious [02:48] matey (Pretences Over) [02:48] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=J9gKyRmic20 [02:48] TR Bot Crowded House - Don't Dream It's Over (Official Music Video) - Invidious [02:50] matey HOW DO YOU TALK TO AN ANGEL [02:50] matey oops, wrong song [02:57] matey world class designer bullshit, hospital-tested clinically-proven bullshit [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 08 [03:01] matey ""advertising is the businessmans cheaply dressed, two-dollar blowjob"-- george carlin [03:03] matey "advertising sells you things you dont need , cant afford that are overpriced and dont work" [03:03] matey systemd is overpriced [03:03] matey techrights is going to cover ibm taking over gcc like it took over userspace (Pretences Over) NOPE, JUST KIDDING [03:03] matey techrights 2027: IBM IS TAKING OVER GCC [03:04] matey wait no no no [03:04] matey techrights in 2027: IBM IS BEGINNING TO TAKE OVER GCC [03:04] matey (pretences over) [03:06] matey techrights in 2028: THE GNU PROJECT IS STARTING TO MOVE TO GITHUB [03:06] matey oh no! [03:07] matey "we wrote about this years ago" [03:07] matey "they did, we took the credit then burned them out of sheer convenience and opportunism" [03:07] matey "(pretences over)" [03:08] matey open source is beginning to become bullshit [03:08] matey lead is starting to become toxic (not that kind of toxic!) [03:08] matey make it sign a code of conduct [03:09] matey war is starting to become violent [03:09] matey sex is starting to become risque [03:09] matey overeating it starting to lead to obesity [03:09] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 76314 total Total number of pages in capsule: 41533 Active: active (running) since Fri 2022-05-27 10:17:06 BST; 1 months 11 days ago [03:09] matey politicians are starting to become dishonest [03:10] matey techrights is starting to go in circles [03:10] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 16 MB TotalOut: 2.9 MB [03:10] matey (pretences over) [03:11] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:12] matey Links 07/07/23: Pretences are back, Stallman resigns again, Mitchell Baker new FSF president [03:13] matey free software is starting to become bullshit [03:13] matey free software is beginning to turn into open source [03:13] IPFS QmateHRg7s96CyDx4BcnezZSfn66P9YWrKiMv5VvFfNyEU [03:13] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:13] matey free software is starting to become less free [03:14] matey free software completely proprietary! (no source code, no free license, users hunted down like animals) [03:14] matey dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria (pretences over) [03:22] matey "the meadia are almost literally exploding with bullshit. because theyre located right at the crossroads of all the other bullshit"-- george carlin [03:25] matey "he loves you. and he needs money. he always needs money."-- george carlin on god [03:25] matey (join today) [03:26] matey religion takes in billions and billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and somehow they always need money [03:26] matey s/religion/the fsf/ s/billions/millions/g [03:27] matey s/the fsf/microsoft/g [03:27] matey s/millions/billions/g [03:27] matey conclusion: microsoft is a church (like scientology) [03:28] matey (join today) [03:45] matey get a good look at mozilla [03:45] matey see the fsfs future [03:46] matey / present, but i was thinking of the "3% marketshare" part [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.93 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.45 average k/sec., average swarm size 295.35 ● Jul 08 [04:42] matey The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. [04:43] matey thatll probably be back up in a minute [04:43] matey Apache/2.4.6 (CentOS) Server at techrights.org Port 80 [04:43] matey /me hits refresh [04:43] matey yep, back up [04:44] matey Adoption of static pages (or sites with static files) makes a lot of pragmatic sense; with feature churn and adoration of "frameworks" the Web became a sordid, overweight mess that harms the environment in all sorts of ways and unnecessarily drives up cost [04:44] matey s/the Web/GNU\/Linux/ [04:44] AdmFubar wind the spring on the server [04:44] matey obviously this happened to the web [04:44] matey not only to the web though [04:45] matey gnome does the same thing to gnu [04:45] matey systemd [04:45] matey rust is a webapi posing as a programming language [04:46] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7vvb95a8fe5hw.irc) has joined #techrights [04:46] matey moving to js "active desktop" [04:46] matey freedesktop.org s/free/active/ [04:46] matey our telemetry wont spy on you [04:46] matey it only gives us your machine-id [04:47] matey at mozilla/red hat/ibm we care about your privacy, just like (at major corporations/giafam/microsoft) we care about your freedom [04:48] matey download our flatpak/docker image/init system/cuckold os [04:48] matey sign our coc, give us free support, do our advertising [04:48] matey bohica [04:48] matey we can pay some of you [04:48] matey divide that pay by the number of volunteers [04:49] matey we pay 50 cents per worker per year [04:49] matey even china cant compete with that [04:49] matey sorry china, maybe you can all volunteer for medical testing [04:49] AdmFubar https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7veg8/anom-app-source-code-operation-trojan-shield-an0m [04:49] TR Bot This Is the Code the FBI Used to Wiretap the World [04:49] matey oh wait, you already do (doesnt everybody) [04:50] matey open up for the gag economy [04:50] matey youll get paid nothing and love it [04:51] AdmFubar https://threatpost.com/drone-hack-expresslrs-hijacked/180133/ [04:51] TR Bot Allows Drone Takeover Via ExpressLRS Protocol | Threatpost [04:51] matey loving it is happiness. happiness is mandatory. [04:51] matey here is your weighted companion cube [04:52] matey we made it flat and gave it a touchscreen [04:52] matey it has a heart for a default wallpaper [04:53] matey because we love you [04:53] matey microsoft <3 everybody [04:53] matey microsoft <3 fsf [04:53] AdmFubar your plastic pal that is fun to be with [04:53] matey microsoft <3 users [04:53] matey love is never free [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 8.60 average k/sec., average swarm size 308.93 [04:59] DaemonFC I was in the hot tub for about 5 hours, intermittently. [04:59] matey volunteers who were paid in user freedom ● Jul 08 [05:00] matey have had their accounts frozen [05:00] DaemonFC Apparently, there is a RHEL derivative that was UNIX '03 Certified. [05:00] matey their assets seized by shills and thieves [05:00] DaemonFC GNU's Now UNIX? [05:01] DaemonFC I do miss the Cartoon Network. [05:01] DaemonFC Adult Swim's not bad. I remember before Adult Swim though, when they used to run old cartoons like Speed Racer and Space Ghost. [05:01] matey But CEO Baker Made a Fortune (Especially When Mozilla Sank) [05:01] matey mitchell elop [05:02] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Elon Musk says his two new kids are his "contribution to solving the underpopulation crisis" and encourages everyone to have "large families". [05:02] DaemonFC Yeah, with what money? [05:03] DaemonFC During a recession where many people can't get a job and lose the one they have, where even he lays off thousands? [05:03] DaemonFC Is he really this crazy/stupid or does he just play act? [05:11] mjg59_ No, he's really just that stupid [05:16] matey underpopulation [05:16] matey does he mean there arent enough people to eat or something? [05:16] matey because the way cannibalism works, its impossible to feed everyone [05:16] matey /me tells musk to draw a straw [05:17] matey i hope he doesnt get the short one. he probably even tastes like a twit [05:19] matey hes also solving the crisis of not enough rich idiots [05:20] matey or at least doing more than his own part [05:20] matey now that musker fell through, perhaps he can fork-- [05:20] matey muskzilla! [05:20] matey makers of the teslafox browser [05:21] matey finally a self-driving car for the information superhighway [05:21] matey tired of navigating the web? now you dont have to [05:21] matey with teslafox, finally your computer can do the web browsing FOR you [05:22] matey "teslafox, i want a bunch of corporate bullshit-- as much as you can find! show me!" [05:22] matey *teslafox explodes* [05:22] matey try our beta! [05:23] matey "its like happy fun ball-- for the internet!" [05:24] matey and hey, teslafox also works with your internet of shit@home [05:24] matey finally a smarthome that ignores your requests and tells you what you want [05:24] matey "teslafox, turn on the lights" [05:25] matey "its 3am, go the fuck to sleep" [05:25] matey "but i" [05:25] matey "i know whats best, goodnight" [05:27] matey "i grew up with helicopter parents. without being constantly told what to do, im just a bit lost in this world. thanks to teslafox, i can live my greatest life again. thanks teslafox!" [05:28] matey new from the makers of teslafox-- an app that makes voting so much easier [05:28] AdmFubar https://www.darkreading.com/application-security/cryptocurrency-api-vulnerability-opens-wallets-to-account-takeovers [05:28] TR Bot Buggy 'Log in With Google' API Implementation Opens Crypto Wallets to Account Takeover [05:29] matey "i know both parties are bullshit. but i have trouble deciding which one is worse." [05:29] matey what you need is teslavote! [05:29] matey it gathers information about you constantly and then decides which candidate to elect for you [05:30] matey just enable e-voting permissions on your android or apple device, and teslavote will make it so you dont even have to show up at the polls [05:31] matey "great! now i dont have to take time off from work! i guess ill be able to construct more parts for landmines and cluster munitions now. thanks teslavote!" [05:31] AdmFubar https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-rolls-back-decision-to-block-office-macros-by-default/ [05:31] TR Bot Microsoft rolls back decision to block Office macros by default [05:33] matey teslavote is brought to you by the musk for president superpac. no, its still unconstitutional. but when was that last time that mattered very much? [05:34] matey musk for president. this campaign drives itself! [05:35] matey "musk is the man for me, ill be voting for him whether its legal or not. the underpopulation crisis is just too important!" [05:35] matey personally, im encouraged that musk is tackling underpopulation... no one else will. [05:36] matey but whats he going to do about energy overabundance? [05:37] matey "oh dont worry about that, musk has several plans for energy overabundance. in fact theyre tied to his plans for the literacy crisis and the job market" [05:37] matey "really?" [05:37] matey "yes, there are way too many people with jobs, and too many people know how to read" [05:38] matey "thank god someone is finally doing something to stop this" [05:39] matey musk 2024: just like satan himself-- ONLY BETTER! [05:40] matey "thousands of years, and finally theyre letting me retire" [05:40] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:40] matey move over, pointy. theres a new sheriff in town [05:45] matey https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/stop-whining-people-you-live-in-history-s-greatest-nation/ar-AAZb16P [05:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MSN [05:45] matey ah yes, the nation of clippers, epstein and abortion rights [05:46] matey well, 2 out of 3 [05:47] matey shut up and pay your tea tax [05:49] AdmFubar https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/07/widely-used-hospital-gowns-show-signs-of-exposing-workers-to-infection.html [05:49] TR Bot Widely Used Hospital Gowns Show Signs of Exposing Workers to Infection | naked capitalism [05:49] matey fun fact: in boston, since the boston tea party, there has been no tax on tea [05:49] matey there is a tax on everything EXCEPT tea, but not on tea itself [05:50] matey this of course has led to many people claiming that theyre purchasing tea when its actually another good [05:52] matey for example, when justin trudeau was in boston purchasing 500 tonnes of enriched uranium, he told the person at the checkout kiosk that it was oolong [05:53] matey when asked why he was purchasing enriched uranium in boston, the pm replied "california overcharges" [05:54] matey new from musk industries [05:54] matey i was going to joke about this but someone beat me to it https://getjerry.com/electric-vehicles/nuclear-powered-cars-future-of-evs [05:54] TR Bot Powered Cars Could Be the Future of EVs | GetJerry.com [05:54] matey back to the future did it [05:55] matey thenewswheel.com/is-it-possible-to-power-a-car-with-nuclear-energy/ It's not nuclear but it is a powerhouse: The 2021 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 The science Before we examine the feasibility of a nuclear-powered car, it's worth talking about the science behind it... [05:55] matey atoms? [05:56] matey Here's Why the Nuclear-Powered 1958 Ford Nucleon Never Entered Production [05:57] matey i read "ford" and "nuclear" and it sort of answers its own question [05:57] matey "you can get it in any colour you like as long as its glowing green" [05:59] AdmFubar nuclear will never take off as there is no good money making opportunity for refueling [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.18 k/sec., IPFS upstream 19.43 average k/sec., average swarm size 309.88 [05:59] matey yo dawg we herd you like subatomic particles ● Jul 08 [06:00] AdmFubar this is presented like it is a bad thing https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-faces-facebook-blackout-instagram-meta-data-protection/ [06:00] TR Bot Europe faces Facebook blackout POLITICO [06:01] matey /me wonders if xzibit goes a single day without hearing that one [06:09] AdmFubar https://www.rawstory.com/secret-service-2657628627/ [06:09] TR Bot Trump-appointed Secret Service director quits to work for Snapchat: report - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism [06:11] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, July 07, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [06:11] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [06:11] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [06:11] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [06:26] TR News "The only real obstacle here is that I don't know who my ancestors were, and of those recent enough for me to remember, there are only a few that I intend to pay any real honor to." gemini://skylarhill.me/posts/adding-spiritual-practices.gmi [06:29] TR News "This is the seventh in a planned series of posts (well, eighth if you count the announcement) where I'll share my experience writing smolver, my Gemini server software, written in Swift." gemini://ainent.xyz/devlog/smolver/2022-07-07-smolver-development-log-part-7.gmi [06:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [06:30] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D285.jpg [06:30] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D636.jpg [06:31] TR News "Idiomdrottning made a post commenting on an article that suggested how to use the encrypted chat app Signal without giving out your phone number (something that's just not possible)." gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2022-07-07-re-signal.gmi [06:33] TR News Signal: we're good for privacy. OK, here, you must carry a spying, listening and tracking device to use Signal. :-) [06:34] TR News "No, it MIGHT surprise you! I do NOT use a mobile phone. Not everyone is dumb enough to have one..." [06:35] TR News Quality of life != I can be reached at any time. Arguably, quality of life = I can isolate myself from surveillance and from other people when I wish to. [06:42] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/07/energy-charter-treaty-makes-climate-action-nearly-illegal-in-52-countries/ [06:42] TR Bot Energy charter treaty makes climate action nearly illegal in 52 countries | Ars Technica [06:44] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/07/end-to-end-encryptions-central-role-in-modern-self-defense/ [06:44] TR Bot End-to-end encryptions central role in modern self-defense | Ars Technica [06:51] TR News It's FOSS is openwashing truly malicious companies https://news.itsfoss.com/meta-open-source-ai-model/ [06:51] TR Bot Meta's AI Model That Helps Overcome Language Barrier Is Now Open-Source - It's FOSS News [06:52] TR News If "It's FOSS" was "It's Green", it would champion and celebrate BP and Exxon for their environmentalism and "commitments". [06:54] TR News This seems like sponsored garbage, moreover openwashing, and not for the first time. Notice the dash in "open-source" (the fakes use that). https://news.itsfoss.com/internxt-send/ [06:54] TR Bot Do You Miss Firefox Send? Internxt Send is Ready as a Replacement - It's FOSS News [06:56] TR News RISC-X? Top Chinese scientist mulls alternative to the RISC-V architecture - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/08/risc-x-top-chinese-scientist-mulls-alternative-to-the-risc-v-architecture/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware [06:56] TR Bot RISC-X? Top Chinese scientist mulls alternative to the RISC-V architecture - CNX Software [06:58] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 60.60 [06:59] TR News Better delete it. It's malware. https://thehackernews.com/2022/07/update-google-chrome-browser-to-patch.html [06:59] TR Bot Update Google Chrome Browser to Patch New Zero-Day Exploit Detected in the Wild ● Jul 08 [07:01] TR News System76 upgrades its Lemur Pro Linux-based laptops with Intel Alder Lake-U processors http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166918#comment-34274 [07:01] TR Bot System76s Lemur Pro Linux laptop now comes with Alder Lake-U | Tux Machines [07:04] TR News "Umbrel actually started as an open source software that allowed easily setting up a Bitcoin node." Ewww... https://itsfoss.com/umbrel-review/ [07:04] TR Bot Umbrel: Unique Linux for Self Hosting Open Source Software [07:05] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166973 [07:05] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [07:06] TR News Seeed Studio outs $5 XIAO ESP32C3 board with WiFi and BLE, battery support - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/08/seeed-studio-5-xiao-esp32c3-board-wifi-and-ble-battery/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware [07:06] TR Bot Seeed Studio outs $5 XIAO ESP32C3 board with WiFi and BLE, battery support - CNX Software [07:24] TR News "Sometimes an SS feed isnt available on a website. If the site is open source I will often try to open a PR to add or enable one. Thats not always possible though. Other time the page may be one that would naturally think to provide a feed for, but one would still be useful." https://www.wezm.net/v2/posts/2022/generate-rss-from-webpage/ [07:24] TR Bot Generating RSS Feeds From Web Pages With RSS Please - Wesley Moore [07:25] TR News Your next C compiler is a D compiler: Introducing DMD's ImportC https://briancallahan.net/blog/20220704.html [07:25] TR Bot Brian Robert Callahan [07:26] TR News The Internets short memory for retrocomputing https://rubenerd.com/the-internets-short-memory-for-retrocomputing/ [07:26] TR Bot The Internets short memory for retrocomputing [07:31] TR News Elive 3.8.30 beta released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166974 [07:31] TR Bot Elive 3.8.30 beta released | Tux Machines [07:39] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166975 [07:39] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [07:39] TR News Umbrel: Unique Linux for Self Hosting Open Source Software Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166976 [07:39] TR Bot Umbrel: Unique Linux for Self Hosting Open Source Software | Tux Machines [07:39] TR News Videos: Asahi Linux and Terminal Emulators Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166977 [07:39] TR Bot Videos: Asahi Linux and Terminal Emulators | Tux Machines [07:42] TR News Linux Foundation and Openwashing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166978 [07:42] TR Bot Linux Foundation and Openwashing | Tux Machines [07:43] TR News "Id definitely prefer to spend the majority of my time indoors. However, Id prefer to spend the majority of my spare time out doors. I love being outside, rain or shine, I just much prefer it." https://kevq.uk/ama-responses-02/ [07:43] TR Bot AMA Responses 02 - Kev Quirk [07:46] TR News Scaling Causal's Spreadsheet Engine from Thousands to Billions of Cells: From Maps to Arrays https://sirupsen.com/causal [07:46] TR Bot Scaling Causal's Spreadsheet Engine from Thousands to Billions of Cells: From Maps to Arrays [07:54] mjg59_ Well, daemonfc will be delighted to see me criticising Lenovo for actually doing something hostile to free software [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jul 08 [08:02] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166979 [08:02] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [08:02] TR News #HowTo Create Persistent Tails Bootable USB on Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166980 [08:02] TR Bot How to Create Persistent Tails Bootable USB on Linux | Tux Machines [08:08] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166981 [08:08] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [08:09] TR News Links 08/07/2022: Elive 3.8.30 Beta, China RISC-V Alliance | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/08/elive-3-8-30-beta/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/08/elive-3-8-30-beta/ [08:09] TR Bot Links 08/07/2022: Elive 3.8.30 Beta, China RISC-V Alliance | Techrights [08:22] TR News The case for null in design systems https://adhocteam.us/2022/07/05/null-in-design-systems/ [08:22] TR Bot NO TITLE [08:23] TR News "I have replaced my Wordpress site, pretty as it was, with a Gemini capsule." gemini://skylarhill.me/posts/gemini-capsule.gmi [08:24] TR News "Signal leaks your phone number to everyone you talk to, and if you want to quit using it, everyone who had you on there can no longer text you, and if, when you get a new phone number, you get the used phone number of someone who used to have signal, youre SOL" gemini://idiomdrottning.org/signal [08:24] TR News "A phone needs to do three things and it destroys one of them, infects that feature and locks it into its own network. Its more of a virus than an app." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/signal [08:28] TR News "I haven't tried Fedora or SuSE in a while. I'll have to check it out." http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36804/ [08:28] TR Bot Fedora 36 is the best Linux I've ever seen: How To Upgrade To Fedora 36 From Fedora 35 (Workstation And Server) [08:29] TR News Rather bizarre thoughts https://rubenerd.com/july-doesnt-feel-like-the-seventh-month/ [08:29] TR Bot July doesnt feel like the seventh month [08:31] TR News "He had a few reasons for doing this. Config files often have their own comments, so prefacing yours with a double pound makes them easier to disambiguate." https://rubenerd.com/my-first-dev-job-and-using-double-pound/ [08:31] TR Bot My first dev job, and using double pound [08:32] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:32] TR News Albo sends howitzers to Ukraine but still no sighting of ScoMos Aussie coal ship - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/albo-sends-howitzers-to-ukraine-but-still-no-sighting-of-scomos-aussie-coal-ship/ Source: michaelwest [08:32] TR Bot Albo sends howitzers to Ukraine but still no sighting of ScoMo's Aussie coal ship - Michael West [08:33] TR News L33t H4cking vs. M0st H4acking https://danielmiessler.com/blog/l33t-h4cking-vs-m0st-h4acking/ [08:33] TR Bot L33t H4cking vs. M0st H4acking - Daniel Miessler [08:37] TR News "A great illustration of this idea is usage of the :checked pseudo-class. Today, you might style something different in the UI depending on whether a checkbox is checked." https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/unlocked-possibilities-of-has-selector/ [08:37] TR Bot The Unlocked Possibilities of the :has() Selector - Jim Nielsens Blog [08:39] TR News "Then there's the polycrisis, which has exploded over the past six weeks, as the war in Ukraine deepened, as mass shootings swept the country, as forced birth laws went into effect in more than a dozen states. Omicron BA.4/5 is kicking off, escaping both vaccine and recovery immunities." https://pluralistic.net/2022/07/05/grab-the-wheel/ [08:39] TR Bot Pluralistic: 05 Jul 2022 Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow [08:40] TR News TikTok Shops Are Lousy With Counterfeit Products https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ikrd/tiktok-shop-customers-say-products-fake [08:40] TR Bot TikTok Shop Customers Are Worried That Theyre Buying Fake Products [08:42] TR News "Today, one day ahead of the final approval, the European Parliament debated the EU Digital Services Act (DSA) establishing new rules for online platforms." https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/digital-services-act-no-game-changer-industry-and-government-interests-prevailed/ [08:43] TR Bot Digital Services Act no game-changer: Industry and government interests prevailed Patrick Breyer [08:46] schestowitz mjg59_: so we were right [08:46] schestowitz basically. [08:47] TR News Lenovo shipping new laptops that only boot Windows by default Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166982 [08:47] TR Bot Lenovo shipping new laptops that only boot Windows by default | Tux Machines [08:49] mjg59_ Right about what? [08:50] schestowitz[TR] "secure" boot should be shunned [08:50] schestowitz[TR] not shimmed [08:50] schestowitz[TR] plus: [08:50] schestowitz[TR] it was never about security [08:51] schestowitz[TR] but about vendors controlling users [08:51] schestowitz[TR] so.. [08:51] schestowitz[TR] we were right [08:51] schestowitz[TR] you chose the wrong side [08:51] schestowitz[TR] like IBM with OOXML [08:51] mjg59_ Except it's literally about security? [08:51] TR News Meet Free Software Foundation Executive Director Zo Kooyman Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166983 [08:51] TR Bot Meet Free Software Foundation Executive Director Zo Kooyman | Tux Machines [08:53] TR News 3 essentials for a low- and no-code application development strategy https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/7/low-and-no-code-application-development [08:53] TR Bot 3 essentials for a low- and no-code application development strategy | The Enterprisers Project [08:53] schestowitz[TR] mjg59_: no it is not [08:53] schestowitz[TR] it's just CALLED that [08:53] schestowitz[TR] many things are intentionally misnamed [08:53] schestowitz[TR] everywhere one looks [08:53] schestowitz[TR] I saw one example yesterdaqy but forgot what it was [08:53] schestowitz[TR] in patents this is very prevalent [08:54] schestowitz[TR] it's like saying putting shackled on slaves is about security [08:54] schestowitz[TR] *shackles [08:54] schestowitz[TR] (it's preventing them from escaping, liberating themselves, i.e. having personal security) [08:55] *birkoff has quit (*.net *.split) [08:55] *psydroid has quit (*.net *.split) [08:55] *hvxgr has quit (*.net *.split) [08:55] *cybrNaut has quit (*.net *.split) [08:55] *rsheftel1435 has quit (*.net *.split) [08:55] *mekkis has quit (*.net *.split) [08:55] *rowbee has quit (*.net *.split) [08:55] *Guest43100 has quit (*.net *.split) [08:55] *sbp has quit (*.net *.split) [08:55] schestowitz[TR] you should know better than this [08:55] mjg59_ There are documented attacks on the boot process, including from organisations that sell their technology to governments to attack activists in their countries [08:55] schestowitz[TR] but you work for the "big guys" [08:55] mjg59_ Arguing that it's not related to security is delusional [08:55] schestowitz[TR] so you prefer not to understand, I get it... [08:55] *hvxgr (~wl2v_usrn@freenode-ong.pov.c33bnd.IP) has joined #techrights [08:55] *birkoff (birkoff@freenode-2mn.d28.de28dt.IP) has joined #techrights [08:55] *rsheftel1435 (~rsheftel@freenode-4nq.hn3.1cipql.IP) has joined #techrights [08:55] *rowbee (~augh@freenode-6n0.an1.6o3glj.IP) has joined #techrights [08:55] *psydroid (~psydroid@freenode/user/psydroid) has joined #techrights [08:55] *sbp (~sbp@freenode-1m86vc.cfhm.haf7.0u8u7u.IP) has joined #techrights [08:55] *Guest43100 (sid80718@freenode-hl1pl3.r7an.uge0.8cnpra.IP) has joined #techrights [08:55] *mekkis (~mekkis@freenode-ej1.p09.41uflq.IP) has joined #techrights [08:55] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights [08:55] schestowitz[TR] no, bootkits aare BS [08:55] schestowitz[TR] some months ago I even saw an article to this affect [08:55] schestowitz[TR] it's hardly the weakest link [08:55] schestowitz[TR] also, bootkits need to get to the machine somehow [08:56] mjg59_ It's absolutely the weakest link [08:56] schestowitz[TR] and if they are preloaded by the OEM, then they can also mess about with 'secure' boto not to detect that [08:56] schestowitz[TR] btw [08:56] schestowitz[TR] what is the cert auth is brached/cracked [08:56] schestowitz[TR] *if [08:56] schestowitz[TR] one possible outcome is, you're locked out [08:56] schestowitz[TR] like my "wontboot" memes [08:57] mjg59_ If someone can breach rsa4096 then we have a *lot* of larger worries [08:57] schestowitz[TR] there are even worse outcomes possible [08:57] schestowitz[TR] you place trust for YOUR machine in the HANDS OF OTHER COMPANIES (and sometimes countries) [08:57] schestowitz[TR] imagine a car that trusts Ford instead of me [08:57] schestowitz[TR] even though I bought it [08:58] schestowitz[TR] and I'm the one with the stake in thew outcome, like a car crash [08:58] mjg59_ Phew good thing all of these systems let you choose who you trust [08:58] schestowitz[TR] "sorry, I cannot do this.. I won't hit this other car, I'd rather you die in your own car... "alogirthm... HEY HI,. real sorry lol" [08:58] schestowitz[TR] mjg59_: they don't [08:58] schestowitz[TR] matey: see Lenovo [08:58] schestowitz[TR] you disproved yourself [08:58] mjg59_ Which Lenovo? [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [08:59] schestowitz[TR] it's no longer theoretical or ARM [08:59] schestowitz[TR] or Microsoft removing that requeirment [08:59] schestowitz[TR] it's realk [08:59] schestowitz[TR] and it's shipped already [08:59] schestowitz[TR] it can also harm gnu/lijux users [08:59] mjg59_ Yeah uh you realise that I'm right now running Linux on that laptop, with secure boot enabled [08:59] schestowitz[TR] like, if china/lennnovo imposes backdoored distros [08:59] mjg59_ I'm complaining about the defaults [08:59] schestowitz[TR] as happened in Internet cafes in china over a decade back [08:59] mjg59_ It's a single switch in the firmware to enable it [08:59] schestowitz[TR] so basically you have fed a very dangerous agenda ● Jul 08 [09:00] schestowitz[TR] and you cannot put this paste back in the tube now [09:00] mjg59_ Which Lenovos don't let you boot Linux [09:00] schestowitz[TR] right [09:00] mjg59_ Which Lenovos don't let you choose who to trust [09:00] schestowitz[TR] so we're getting f*cked [09:00] schestowitz[TR] and you said this was OK [09:00] mjg59_ I literally didn't [09:00] schestowitz[TR] you assumed it would not be abused [09:00] schestowitz[TR] but we warned it would [09:00] schestowitz[TR] and it's happening [09:00] mjg59_ Please give an example of a Lenovo that doesn't let you choose who to trust [09:01] schestowitz[TR] "Restricting boot to Windows by default provides no security benefit but makes it harder for people to run the OS they want to. Please fix it." [09:01] schestowitz[TR] https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/59931.html [09:01] TR Bot mjg59 | Lenovo shipping new laptops that only boot Windows by default [09:01] schestowitz[TR] there. [09:01] schestowitz[TR] in your own words [09:01] schestowitz[TR] "I gave you nukes" [09:01] schestowitz[TR] "shit. please don't use them..." [09:01] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR]: Yeah and if you go into the firmware you can choose to enable support for the signing key that Linux uses [09:02] schestowitz[TR] too complicated [09:02] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR]: And you can also clear the existing keys and enroll your own [09:02] schestowitz[TR] which is what they want [09:02] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR]: So you can literally choose who to trust [09:02] schestowitz[TR] too tricky [09:02] schestowitz[TR] not many people would do this [09:02] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR]: I agree that this should not be the default! [09:02] schestowitz[TR] some people are too timid to even aburn a CD [09:02] mjg59_ schestowitz[TR]: But to assert that choice is prevented is simply untrue [09:02] schestowitz[TR] some young people never burned a CD [09:02] schestowitz[TR] their laptops have no optical drives at all [09:02] mjg59_ Well yeah this machine doesn't have a CD drive so that wouldn't be much use anyway [09:02] schestowitz[TR] mjg59_: anyway, you made life harder [09:02] schestowitz[TR] not simpler [09:03] schestowitz[TR] and instead of fighting with the free sofwtare community you bagged Red Crap money [09:03] schestowitz[TR] and did Microsoft's work [09:03] schestowitz[TR] while Red Hat was partnering with MIcorosoft [09:03] mjg59_ Not actually all that much money tbh [09:03] schestowitz[TR] and pushing Microsoft systemd into everything [09:03] mjg59_ And actually working against RH management in the process [09:03] schestowitz[TR] not much money? [09:03] schestowitz[TR] Red Hat did not pay you under 60k per annum [09:04] schestowitz[TR] mine is less than 30k [09:04] mjg59_ Well, you could work on free software full time and earn more than that [09:04] schestowitz[TR] asnyway, the way this will pan out [09:04] schestowitz[TR] will show, in retrospect, whhat impact you had [09:04] schestowitz[TR] and you don't like it already [09:04] schestowitz[TR] your post is guilt [09:04] schestowitz[TR] and you proactively try to make it look like "oh, I don't like this" [09:04] schestowitz[TR] it'lkl get worse over time [09:04] schestowitz[TR] soon more pluton [09:04] schestowitz[TR] maybe [09:05] schestowitz[TR] if windoiws doesn't die afst enough [09:05] schestowitz[TR] Well, you could work on free software full time and earn more than that [09:05] schestowitz[TR] I do that [09:05] schestowitz[TR] and I don't take instructions from Red Hat/DoD/Microsoft [09:05] schestowitz[TR] What Linus told you was correct [09:05] schestowitz[TR] but who got punished? [09:05] schestowitz[TR] him [09:06] schestowitz[TR] not you [09:06] schestowitz[TR] the person who was punished said NO to this [09:06] schestowitz[TR] the person who promoted Microsoft's interests was the "victim" [09:06] schestowitz[TR] and we know who zemlin and the frauds sent to therapists [09:06] schestowitz[TR] not you [09:06] schestowitz[TR] but the person who protected Linus from disruption [09:06] schestowitz[TR] *linus [09:06] schestowitz[TR] *linus>linux [09:07] schestowitz[TR] LF should just be disbaneded already [09:07] schestowitz[TR] maybe become a private firm [09:07] schestowitz[TR] Opewash Marketing Inc. [09:07] schestowitz[TR] and they can raise money for clickfraud spamnil [09:07] schestowitz[TR] to lie to people using youtube channel that's all clickfraud [09:10] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #techrights [09:12] schestowitz[TR] I would make another video to prove this if needed [09:12] schestowitz[TR] -== [09:12] schestowitz[TR] anyway: [09:12] schestowitz[TR] in short, Lenoivo now makes laptops that won't boot GNU/Linux [09:12] schestowitz[TR] NOT for technical reasons [09:13] schestowitz[TR] the laptop can boot Linux technically, but rfuses because of security theatre (oipposite of security! Locking the user out from hjis/her own sysytem) [09:13] schestowitz[TR] just like a couple of years ago perfectly functioning red hat server were temporarily 'bricked' [09:13] schestowitz[TR] they would not boot [09:13] schestowitz[TR] a) perfectly fine hardware [09:13] schestowitz[TR] b) perfectly fine OS in good integrity [09:14] schestowitz[TR] hence, orgs that worried about 5 mins of downtime disrupting their business [09:14] schestowitz[TR] would have to cope with a day or more of downtime [09:14] schestowitz[TR] because of this security [sic] theatre [09:14] schestowitz[TR] this is an attack not just on software freedom [09:14] schestowitz[TR] it kills people [09:14] schestowitz[TR] your work can kill people [09:14] schestowitz[TR] like hospitals whose equip[ment would not boot [09:14] schestowitz[TR] or back end failed [09:14] schestowitz[TR] because of some 'secure' boot BS [09:15] schestowitz[TR] like I said, give it a few years [09:15] schestowitz[TR] we'll see who gets the last laugh [09:17] TR News diffoscope 218 released https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-218-released/ [09:17] TR Bot diffoscope 218 released [09:18] TR News Banana Pi BPI-Leaf-S3 ESP32-S3 board launched for $7.5 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166984 [09:18] TR Bot Banana Pi BPI-Leaf-S3 ESP32-S3 board launched for $7.5 | Tux Machines [09:19] TR News IRC Proceedings: Thursday, July 07, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/08/irc-log-070722/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/08/irc-log-070722/ [09:19] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Thursday, July 07, 2022 | Techrights [09:22] TR News Drag soldering through-hole pins https://linuxjedi.co.uk/2022/07/04/drag-soldering-through-hole-pins/ [09:22] TR Bot Drag soldering through-hole pins LinuxJedi's /dev/null [09:23] TR News "Continuing the rollout of Have I Been Pwned (HIBP) to national governments around the world, today I'm very happy to welcome Poland to the service! The Polish CSIRT GOV is now the 34th onboard the service and has free and open access to APIs allowing them to query their government domains." https://www.troyhunt.com/welcoming-the-polish-government-to-have-i-been-pwned/ [09:23] TR Bot Troy Hunt: Welcoming the Polish Government to Have I Been Pwned [09:24] TR News 2022.27 More Videos https://rakudoweekly.blog/2022/07/04/2022-27-more-videos/ [09:24] TR Bot 2022.27 More Videos Rakudo Weekly News [09:24] TR News Who you gonna call?? Not the cops!! Useless gits, self-serving, covering-up (or "arse-covering") vigilante. http://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/2/headlines/uvalde_incident_commander_ordered_border_patrol_not_to_enter_classroom_during_massacre [09:24] TR Bot Uvalde Incident Commander Ordered Border Patrol Not to Enter Classroom During Massacre | Democracy Now! [09:25] TR News "My concern is that China has begun sending blogging protesters to mental institutes" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2007/08/26/my-concern/ [09:25] TR Bot Blog Archive My Concern [09:27] TR News When to use Rope over StringBuilder in Java? https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/when-to-use-rope-over-stringbuilder-in-java/ [09:27] TR Bot When to use Rope over StringBuilder in Java? - GeeksforGeeks [09:28] TR News "Gentleminions" https://abcnews.go.com/US/minions-movie-makes-history-trend-havoc-theater-owners/story?id=86305691 | Source: ABC [09:28] TR Bot 'Minions' movie makes history as new trend causes havoc for theater owners - ABC News [09:29] TR News "Maryna Viazovska, a mathematician at the EPFL in Switzerland, has won one of this year's Fields Medals" https://plus.maths.org/content/mv | [09:29] TR Bot Fields Medals 2022: Maryna Viazovska | plus.maths.org [09:29] TR News Social Media Victims Law Center https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/parents-sue-tiktok-deaths-two-girls-blackout-challenge-rcna37100 | Source: NBC [09:29] TR Bot Parents sue TikTok over deaths of two girls after 'blackout challenge' [09:29] TR News "TikTok is facing multiple lawsuits from parents who say their children died of strangulation attempting" https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/7/23199058/tiktok-lawsuits-blackout-challenge-children-death | Source: The Verge [09:30] TR Bot The TikTok blackout challenge has now allegedly killed seven kids - The Verge [09:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [09:30] TR News "Top senators on the Intelligence Committee requested the FTC investigate TikTok" https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/overnights/3548126-hillicon-valley-tiktok-scrutiny-heats-up/ | Source: The Hill [09:30] TR Bot Hillicon Valley TikTok scrutiny heats up | The Hill [09:31] TR News Social control media = violence https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3549117-trump-son-removed-from-social-media-firms-board-weeks-before-federal-subpoenas/ | Source: The Hill see http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/ [09:31] TR Bot Trump, son removed from social media firms board weeks before federal subpoenas | The Hill [09:31] TR Bot Twitter Profits From Conflict | Techrights [09:32] TR News "James Murray is retiring as director of the U.S. Secret Service after a 27-year career with the agency" https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/snapchat-secret-service-james-murray-1235311338/ | Source: Variety [09:32] TR Bot Hires Secret Service Boss James Murray as Chief Security Officer - Variety [09:32] TR News Twitter is a clickfarm of spam. Only a fool would buy this pile of shit. https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/7/23199137/elon-musk-twitter-spam-account-bot-data-breakup | Source: The Verge http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/twitter-is-spam/ [09:32] TR Bot Elon Musks Twitter acquisition is reportedly in serious jeopardy over spam - The Verge [09:32] TR Bot Musks Bubble: Twitter Notifications Turned Into SPAM and Recommendations (to Drive Up Engagement by Adding Noise) | Techrights [09:33] TR News On media literacy https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3548040-democrats-seek-to-boost-media-literacy-for-students-veterans-with-two-new-bills/ | Source: The Hill [09:33] TR Bot Democrats seek to boost media literacy for students, veterans with two new bills | The Hill [09:33] TR News Assanges wife https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/stella-assange-life-without-julian-thought-guy-needs-help-can/ | Source: The Telegraph UK [09:33] TR Bot Stella Assange on life with and without Julian: I thought, this guy needs all the help he can get [09:34] TR News Monopolies https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/eu-antitrust-regulators-probing-tech-group-aoms-video-licensing-policy/92738908 | Source: India Times [09:34] TR Bot European Union: EU antitrust regulators probing tech group AOM's video licensing policy, CIO News, ET CIO [09:34] TR News Call it "Microsoft systemd" from now on; it would hardly be a lie! https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&u=https://www.muylinux.com/2022/07/07/lennart-poettering-microsoft/ [09:35] TR Bot Lennart Poettering, creador de systemd, ficha por Microsoft [09:35] TR News Shinzo Abe in "grave condition" after being shot during Japan election campaign | Reuters https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/japan-ex-prime-minister-abe-may-have-been-shot-taken-hospital-nhk-2022-07-08/ Source: reuters [09:35] TR Bot Abe in "grave condition" after being shot during Japan election campaign | Reuters [09:39] TR News Social control media will probably rush (in vain) to censor footage of this https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-asia-62088876 [09:39] TR Bot Shinzo Abe: Global shock as Japan's ex-leader shot while giving speech - BBC News [09:40] TR News Gulag YouTube already seems to be censoring any new videos of the likely assassination (does not sound like he will survive). [09:41] TR News "Shows no vital signs" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8Tv3NSpnAP8 [09:41] TR Bot Japan's former prime minister Shinzo Abe shot in Nara, shows no vital signs: Media - Invidious [09:46] TR News Borisnaro must love the TIMING of this assassination [09:54] *KiKi_ (~KiKi@spickhwyrdkxy.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jul 08 [10:05] TR News "Dissident antiwar UK academics Piers Robinson and David Miller tell Max Blumenthal how they were targeted by the British intelligence services and its media proxies." https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/07/how-uks-intelligence-services-target-dissident-academics%EF%BF%BC/ | Source: Scheerpost [10:05] TR Bot UKs Intelligence Services Target Dissident Academics scheerpost.com [10:06] TR News "Today we share the second report in our series of findings from the Gender Balance in Computing research programme" https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/gender-balance-in-computing-pair-programming-approach-engaging-girls/ | Source: Raspberry Pi [10:06] TR Bot A pair programming approach for engaging girls in the Computing classroom: Study results - Raspberry Pi [10:07] TR News "U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced his resignation as leader of the Conservative Party on Thursday" https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/7/uk_prime_minister_boris_johnson_resigns | Source: Democracy Now [10:07] TR Bot The Inevitable Has Happened: Boris Johnson to Resign as PM After Mounting Scandals, Resignations | Democracy Now! [10:08] TR News "protests calling for the resignation of President Gotabaya Rajapaksa." https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/7/sri_lanka_gotabaya_rajapaksa_economic_crisis | Source: Democracy Now [10:08] TR Bot Sri Lanka Is Grinding to a Halt Amid Fuel Shortage, Inflation & Austerity, Prompting Mass Protests | Democracy Now! [10:08] TR News Misinformation/Disinformation https://telex.hu/english/2022/07/07/constitutional-court-says-public-media-have-duty-not-to-spread-lies | Source: Telex (Hungary) [10:08] TR Bot Telex: Constitutional Court says public media have duty not to spread lies [10:13] TR News Gulag https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/google/ | Source: The Nation [10:13] TR Bot Google | The Nation [10:15] TR News "Axzez released the Interceptor Carrier Board for the RPi CM4" https://linuxgizmos.com/axzez-releases-news-for-interceptor-board-accessories/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [10:15] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/axzez-releases-news-for-interceptor-board-accessories/ ) [10:18] TR News "The e-CAM82_CUOAGX by e-con Systems, is an ultra-low light 8MP camera which implements the Sony IMX485 as image sensor." https://linuxgizmos.com/sony-starvis-based-8mp-multi-camera-solution-for-jetson-agx-orin/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [10:18] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/sony-starvis-based-8mp-multi-camera-solution-for-jetson-agx-orin/ ) [10:23] TR News "Open the terminal and log in as the root user through the terminal." https://vitux.com/yum-rocky-linux/ | Source: Vitux [10:23] TR Bot to use Yum package Manager on Rocky Linux 8 - VITUX [10:24] TR News ICBM Red Hat hours after systemd turned out to be MICROSOFT SYSTEMD (never mind ICBM's other attacks on GNU/Linux in recent years... too many to count really!) https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/community-heart-red-hat | Source: Red Hat Official [10:24] TR Bot Community is at the heart of Red Hat [10:25] TR News PwnKit vulnerability = MICROSOFT SYSTEMD https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-red-hat-responded-pwnkit-vulnerability | Source: Red Hat Official [10:25] TR Bot How Red Hat responded to the PwnKit vulnerability [10:26] TR News "Most keys double up on characters, also called glyphs, thanks to the Shift key." https://opensource.com/article/22/7/linux-compose-key-cheat-sheet | Source: OpenSource.com [10:26] TR Bot secret keyboard keys on Linux | Opensource.com [10:26] TR News "Knowing how much of your disk is being used by your files is an important consideration, no matter how much storage you have." https://opensource.com/article/22/7/check-disk-usage-linux | Source: OpenSource.com [10:26] TR Bot disk usage in Linux | Opensource.com [10:27] TR News "Seth Kenlon: You're the executive director of the FSF! How did you get here?" https://opensource.com/article/22/7/meet-fsf-executive-director-zoe-kooyman | Source: OpenSource.com [10:27] TR Bot Free Software Foundation Executive Director Zo Kooyman | Opensource.com [10:27] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [10:28] TR News Abe is dead. Borisnaro thankful the news cycle has changed entirely. https://www.dw.com/en/shinzo-abe-japan-ex-pm-dies-after-being-shot-reports/a-62402902 [10:28] TR Bot Abe: Japan ex-PM dies after being shot reports | News | DW | 08.07.2022 [10:28] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #techrights [10:29] TR News Sanitised video footage https://nitter.eu/dwnews/status/1545299994680463362 [10:30] TR Bot News (@dwnews): "Japan's former Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is fighting for his life after being shot at during a campaign event."|nitter.it [10:30] TR News "Valve has sent word that Steam Next Fest is coming back again and it will be live on October 3rd - 10th." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/mark-your-calendars-steam-next-fest-returns-in-october-2022/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [10:30] TR Bot your calendars, Steam Next Fest returns in October 2022 | GamingOnLinux [10:30] TR News Firefox https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/you-should-avoid-the-stock-firefox-install-on-steam-deck-as-its-badly-outdated/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [10:30] TR Bot should avoid the stock Firefox install on Steam Deck as it's badly outdated (updated) | GamingOnLinux [10:31] TR News Marketing spam? https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/jsaux-are-filling-the-steam-deck-accessory-gap-and-have-a-docking-station-ready/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [10:31] TR Bot are filling the Steam Deck accessory gap and have a Docking Station ready | GamingOnLinux [10:33] TR News "In the market for some new hardware? Hardware vendor Slimbook has announced the KDE Slimbook 4 with a powerful new AMD Ryzen processor." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166869#comment-34275 | Source: GamingOnLinux [10:33] TR Bot KDE Slimbook Gen4 Linux Laptop Is Available Now with an AMD Ryzen 7 5700U CPU | Tux Machines [10:33] TR News "The Ranchers from French developer RedPilz Studio is a very promising looking open world country-life sim, which will be coming with Native GNU/Linux support" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/expansive-open-world-country-life-sim-the-ranchers-gets-funded-in-less-than-a-day/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [10:33] TR Bot open world country-life sim The Ranchers gets funded in less than a day | GamingOnLinux [10:33] TR News Proton Experimental https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/07/proton-experimental-fixes-up-disgaea-5-plants-vs-zombies-garden-warfare-2/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [10:33] TR Bot Experimental fixes up Disgaea 5, Plants vs. Zombies Garden Warfare 2 | GamingOnLinux [10:35] TR News These instructions WRONGLY assume everyone uses MICROSOFT SYSTEMD instead of GNU/Linux https://ubuntu.com//blog/raspberry-pi-hat-tutorials-part-1 | Source: Ubuntu [10:35] TR Bot home the disco with these Raspberry Pi HAT tutorials (Part 1) | Ubuntu [10:37] TR News "Self-Determination" https://fair.org/home/media-support-self-determination-for-us-allies-not-enemies/ | Source: FAIR [10:37] TR Bot Media Support 'Self-Determination' for US Allies, Not Enemies - FAIR [10:38] TR News Games: Valve, The Ranchers, and Proton Experimental Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166985 [10:38] TR Bot Games: Valve, The Ranchers, and Proton Experimental | Tux Machines [10:39] TR News IPTV https://torrentfreak.com/laliga-serie-a-win-new-pirate-iptv-blocking-orders-against-isps-220708/ | Source: Torrent Freak [10:39] TR Bot & Serie A Win New Pirate IPTV Blocking Orders Against ISPs * TorrentFreak [10:39] TR News VPN company TorGuard https://torrentfreak.com/greece-prosecutes-owner-of-american-vpn-service-over-fraudulent-user-transactions-220707/ | Source: Torrent Freak [10:39] TR Bot Prosecutes Owner of American VPN Service Over Fraudulent User Transactions * TorrentFreak [10:39] TR News BitTorrent https://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-copyright-trolls-given-green-light-by-finlands-supreme-court-220707/ | Source: Torrent Freak [10:39] TR Bot 'Copyright Trolls' Given Green Light By Finland's Supreme Court * TorrentFreak [10:48] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166986 [10:48] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [10:49] TR News Graft for bailouts https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/07/07/americas-14-trillion-so-called-national-security-budget-makes-us-less-safe-not-more | Source: Common Dreams http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ [10:49] TR Bot Opinion | America's $1.4 Trillion So-Called "National Security" Budget Makes Us Less SafeNot More | William Hartung [10:49] TR Bot The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights [10:50] TR News Raspberry Pi https://hackaday.com/2022/07/07/a-mostly-fair-deal-for-all-with-a-raspberry-pi/ | Source: Hackaday [10:50] TR Bot Mostly Fair Deal For All With A Raspberry Pi | Hackaday [10:54] TR News Capitalism works. It passes all the money to the top. Just as intended. It works. [10:56] TR News Abe dead. Twitter be like, "oooooh! money money money" http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/ [10:57] TR Bot Twitter Profits From Conflict | Techrights [10:58] TR News Putin causing famine like Stalin did (in Ukraine)... "more than 71 million people around the world have fallen into poverty as food..." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/07/surging-prices-amid-ukraine-war-have-pushed-71-million-people-worldwide-poverty | Source: Common Dreams [10:58] TR Bot Surging Prices Amid Ukraine War Have Pushed 71 Million People Worldwide Into Poverty [10:58] TR News Worse than recession https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/07/fed-and-biden-face-warnings-inflation-response-could-spur-painful-recession | Source: Common Dreams [10:58] TR Bot Fed and Biden Face Warnings That Inflation Response Could Spur Painful Recession [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [10:59] TR News Calling what we have no "recession" gives a lot of people false hope of rebound ● Jul 08 [11:00] TR News "Congress should prioritize the true, urgent human needs of everyday people" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/07/weapons-industrys-10-million-investment-congress-could-yield-450000-return | Source: Common Dreams; not just weapons industry, also organised crime: http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ [11:00] TR Bot Weapons Industry's $10 Million Investment in Congress Could Yield 450,000% Return [11:02] TR News US Republicans: cruel with rifles. US Democrats: cruel with fewer rifles. [11:03] TR News Censorship in Russia: "We wont be destroyed. And we wont be silenced" https://meduza.io/en/slides/we-won-t-be-destroyed-and-we-won-t-be-silenced | Source: Meduza [11:03] TR Bot NO TITLE [11:06] TR News Recipes in Gopher (new) gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/joneworlds/recipes.gmi [11:06] TR News Loophole = legalising crimes https://truthout.org/articles/democrats-want-to-extend-medicare-solvency-by-closing-trump-era-tax-loophole/ | Source: TruthOut [11:06] TR Bot Democrats Want to Extend Medicare Solvency by Closing Trump-Era Tax Loophole [11:12] TR News Pillage, as intended. We pay for the greed of the few. https://truthout.org/articles/hiking-interest-rates-protects-financial-assets-of-the-1-at-workers-expense/ | Source: TruthOut [11:12] TR Bot Hiking Interest Rates Protects Financial Assets of the 1% at Workers' Expense [11:14] TR News Cops https://www.propublica.org/article/vallejo-police-killing-investigations still waiting for Pro Publica to do an expose about the Famous Criminal Bill Gates, but he's bribing them NOT to do this [11:14] TR Bot The City Where Investigations of Police Take So Long, Officers Kill Again Before Reviews Are Done ProPublica [11:21] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [11:22] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [11:24] TR News How to act like a psychopath: say "well, he's dead"... even about your close friend [11:28] TR News Borisnaro: "let the bodies pile up HIGH!" HRC: "we came, we saw, he died. hahaha" Famous Criminal Bill Gates: "well, he's dead" (relieved... he too should be dead) [11:30] TR News "Techdirt was one of the few sites to be following closely some obscure but important machinations at the UN" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/07/russias-other-war-against-a-free-and-open-internet/ | Source: Techdirt [11:30] TR Bot Other War Against A Free And Open Internet | Techdirt [11:31] TR News Bill Gates-funded and lobbied for (for personal gain) "chemical giants Monsantoacquired by Bayer AG in 2018" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/07/07/just-beginning-appeals-court-affirms-pesticide-giants-liable-dicamba-drift | Source: Common Dreams [11:31] TR Bot 'Just the Beginning': Appeals Court Affirms Pesticide Giants Liable for Dicamba Drift [11:32] TR News "Last week FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr made headlines by sending a letter to Apple and Google demanding they ban TikTok." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/07/the-dumb-right-wing-push-to-ban-tiktok-misses-the-bigger-picture/ | Source: Techdirt [11:32] TR Bot Dumb Right Wing Push To Ban TikTok Misses The Bigger Picture | Techdirt [11:33] TR News Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Xcode Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166987 [11:33] TR Bot Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Xcode | Tux Machines [11:38] TR News "Truth: government exists to protect life and liberty. But the lie embraced was government is willing to kill everyone because: better dead than red." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/08/time-for-a-convention-of-the-people-by-the-people-and-for-the-people/ | Source: Counter Punch [11:38] TR Bot for a Convention of the People, by the People and for the People - CounterPunch.org [11:40] TR News Where do Zuck and Sandbag find the audacity to sue after STEALING data of BILLIONS of NON-CONSENTING people? https://www.techdirt.com/2022/07/07/meta-sues-scraping-firms-but-should-scraping-really-be-a-problem/ | Source: Techdirt [11:40] TR Bot Sues Scraping Firms; Is It Really Protecting Users? 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Having spent much time trying to de-mystify capitalist institutions" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/08/the-breakdown-of-legitimacy-a-good-and-necessary-thing/ | Source: Counter Punch [12:08] TR Bot Breakdown of Legitimacy: A Good and Necessary Thing - CounterPunch.org [12:09] TR News Linux Foundation: we are liberal woke. But we also don't hire black people and blacks have no voting rights in our organisation. http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/ [12:09] TR Bot Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its Support for the Black Community | Techrights [12:10] TR News BornHack https://hackaday.com/2022/07/08/badges-of-2022-bornhack/ | Source: Hackaday [12:10] TR Bot Of 2022: BornHack | Hackaday [12:10] TR News Retrotechtacular https://hackaday.com/2022/07/07/retrotechtacular-1990s-cd-mastering-fit-for-a-king/ | Source: Hackaday [12:10] TR Bot 1990s CD Mastering Fit For A King | Hackaday [12:11] TR News ESP32 https://hackaday.com/2022/07/07/esp32-powers-fresh-take-on-an-iot-geiger-counter/ | Source: Hackaday [12:11] TR Bot Powers Fresh Take On An IoT Geiger Counter | Hackaday [12:12] TR News "This means that more than 96% of the 369 financial institutions tracked have no such restrictions at all" https://www.desmog.com/2022/07/07/financial-institutions-restricting-oil-gas-expansion-reclaim-finance/ | Source: DeSmog [12:13] TR Bot ( status 522 @ https://www.desmog.com/2022/07/07/financial-institutions-restricting-oil-gas-expansion-reclaim-finance/ ) [12:15] TR News "If you want to take pictures of tiny things close up, you need a macro lens." https://hackaday.com/2022/07/07/trying-out-a-3d-printed-microscope-lens-adapter/ | Source: Hackaday [12:15] TR Bot Out A 3D Printed Microscope Lens Adapter | Hackaday [12:16] TR News "nonviolent direct action" https://scheerpost.com/2022/07/07/the-feds-are-using-terrorism-charges-against-water-protectors/ | Source: Scheerpost [12:16] TR Bot Feds Are Using Terrorism Charges Against Water Protectors scheerpost.com [12:17] TR News Pseudo-liberalism or corporatism disguised as "ethics" http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/ [12:20] TR News Selling overpriced commodity hardware using GNU/Linux https://dwaves.de/2022/07/06/hardware-review-tuxedo-infinitybook-s-14-gen6-is-the-same-as-system76-lemur-pro-laptop-notebook-and-usb-c-to-lan-dongles-benchmark/ [12:20] TR Bot Hardware Review TUXEDO InfinityBook S 14 Gen6 is the same as System76 Lemur Pro Laptop Notebook and USB-C to LAN dongles benchmark | dwaves.de [12:25] TR News Kali Linux in Linodes Cloud Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166990 [12:25] TR Bot Kali Linux in Linode's Cloud | Tux Machines [12:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [12:32] TR News Linux Foundation Spreads Digital Restrictions Management (DRM) Disguised as Open Source | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/08/lf-drm/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/08/lf-drm/ [12:32] TR Bot Linux Foundation Spreads Digital Restrictions Management (DRM) Disguised as Open Source | Techrights [12:56] matey /me thinks its funny that roy would try to convince someone passionately involved with secure boot into thinking its snake oil (even if it is) [12:57] matey as for mjg, i WOULD say that he seems to miss the point that security around an actual (non-imaginary) threat can always be hijacked/exploited and turned into security theatre... except [12:57] matey that if you corner him on exactly that he seems to frankly admit it (at least in theory of course) [12:58] schestowitz[TR] https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/21810-it-is-difficult-to-get-a-man-to-understand-something [12:58] TR Bot Quote by Upton Sinclair: It is difficult to get a man to understand some... [12:58] schestowitz[TR] http://techrights.org/2021/12/30/osi-salary/ [12:58] matey /me considers secure boot a security theatre solution, an exploitation of what mjg says is an actual threat [12:58] TR Bot It is Difficult to Get a Man to Understand Something, When His Salary Depends on His Not Understanding It (Upton Sinclair) | Techrights [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [12:59] matey also, another person who wont be dragged into this (as theyve already stated their side emphatically and it would only annoy them) seems to think a better solution is something along the lines of "go fuck yourself" but im paraphrasing ● Jul 08 [13:00] TR News OSI Blog: Composed by Microsoft, Promoting Microsofts Proprietary Software Again | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/08/bought-osi/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/08/bought-osi/ [13:00] TR Bot OSI Blog: Composed by Microsoft, Promoting Microsofts Proprietary Software Again | Techrights [13:00] matey the only person i know who seems to think secure boot is a necessary evil is mjg. and there are obviously others, but how many of them arent fanboys [13:01] matey systemd, make no mistake about it, is a similar solution to a HOST of similar, VITAL issues, the ONLY solution that even addresses them [13:01] matey and theyre so fucking important to address that i went and switched operating systems to get away from the solution. [13:02] matey "but no those arent security issues" [13:02] matey ah, but theyre REALLY important ones according to the authors, and thats the point [13:03] matey security is always important too, thats why i keep this whistle with me to protect against elephants [13:04] matey if youve ever seen someone trampled by an elephant you know theyre not a joke [13:04] matey attacks on boot firmware are a vital part of any reasonable threat model. [13:05] matey thats why its best to have a solution that just happened to make it more trouble to install not windows for most people. [13:06] matey i personally would have gone a step further, with biometric identification that scanned your iris and sent it to microsoft for verification [13:06] matey this would have made it harder to steal your device (and no one thinks that theft is a non-issue) [13:06] matey (not even stallman!) [13:07] matey (who had his laptop stolen and would have benefit from his iris scan being sent into microsoft, as they would have known it wasnt him when the thief tried to use his laptop) [13:08] matey secure boot as an optional feature (off by default) would have provided security to anyone who cared to enable it, WITHOUT giving microsoft a business edge against free software [13:09] matey instead, the whole argument is around whether you can turn it off or use non-microsoft keys [13:10] matey most people care more about the fact that it gave microsoft a business edge, as they DONT consider attacks on the boot process to be more important than the monopoly concern [13:10] matey mjg clearly understands this, but his prority is threat model. if the solution gives microsoft an edge in practice, but not in theory, its still relevant when you demand he consider it. [13:11] matey the rest of the time, hooray for secure boot! [13:12] matey also the department of homeland security will be posting an armed guard outside everyones front door to protect them from terrorists [13:12] matey this should make everyone feel safer [13:13] matey citizens are encouraged to give these guards wifi access so they have something to do with their time while posted. [13:13] matey it certainly wont be abused [13:14] matey its fucking WEIRD though, that despite the vital nature of secure boot, it takes so much arm-twisting to get people to fully understand that the main gripe people are going to have [13:14] matey is not that theyre more secure, but that solutions themselves can be abused and exploited on a larger scale than the problem they claim to solve even exists at [13:16] matey why would anyone complain about corporate nepotism as a security model? lets focus on solutions, not the problems they cause. [13:20] matey why does "read the room" only apply in social contexts anyway, such as what to say on twitter or what to publish on wikipedia [13:20] matey why does "read the room" never apply in a technical context, when a corporate wants a top-down solution that benefits them more than users? [13:21] matey other than the fact that corporations always get a double standard because they (do a pretty good job of trying to) control the world and fuck you very much if you dont like it, cheers [13:21] matey read the room, lennart [13:22] matey "i did, it turns out that when you force everyone to do your will, the room gives up and goes along with it while a minority complains, and who cares what a minority wants" [13:22] matey ah, so THATS what "read the room" means [13:24] matey if you read the room that way, abortion rights arent important either-- turns out quite a lot of people dont want them, so why implement them? [13:24] matey they can always move to a state where rights exist. [13:24] matey (note thats the opposite of my position, im only using it to make fun of systemd) [13:25] matey (and a number of similar defences of really fucking terrible technology fuckups) [13:27] matey if these people read the room, they might begin to understand why people are so angry [13:28] matey instead they get technical. you SHOULD WANT this stuff, and you would want it if you knew what was good for you [13:29] matey it happens to be the opposite of what was considered good for you last week [13:29] matey but thats only because the people who pushed that agenda were greybeards and neckbeards and autistic zealots who eat their own feet [13:29] matey this is progress! [13:30] matey read the room-- see the trust in their eyes! [13:30] matey its not too late to reconsider [13:31] matey but they wont [13:32] TR News The Three Microsoft Stooges | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/08/secured-windows-monopoly/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/08/secured-windows-monopoly/ [13:32] TR Bot The Three Microsoft Stooges | Techrights [13:33] schestowitz[TR] matey: ^ [13:33] schestowitz[TR] still draft btw [13:34] *CParadoxum__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [13:35] CParadoxum__ I forgot when I last disconnected from the bouncer here, but I'm back [13:35] CParadoxum__ Noticed this: https://lunduke.substack.com/p/microsofts-growing-control-of-linux [13:35] TR Bot Microsoft's growing control of Linux - by Bryan Lunduke [13:35] CParadoxum__ Oddly enough, I thought Lunduke was an M$ shill, what's going on? [13:35] matey matey: ^ [13:35] schestowitz[TR] wb, CParadoxum__ [13:36] matey im still waiting for you to explain how systemd is MORE microsoft than it was 6 months ago [13:36] schestowitz[TR] cylunduke is.. very ciomplicated [13:36] matey or were you just stuck for a meme the other day [13:36] schestowitz[TR] n o [13:36] schestowitz[TR] now it's more obvious [13:36] matey uh huh [13:36] matey but why now? [13:36] CParadoxum__ Is the Extenguish phase soon? [13:36] matey i cant get a straight answer-- or any answer at all [13:37] schestowitz[TR] CParadoxum__: they still incvrease the second E [13:37] schestowitz[TR] more Embrace [13:37] schestowitz[TR] to make sure phase 3 does more damage [13:37] *CParadoxum__ can't wait for HyperbolaBSD to be viable [13:37] CParadoxum__ I'm jumping ship as soon as I can [13:37] matey and for something so obvious i cant find a shread of evidence pointing to it [13:37] TR News The Three Microsoft Stooges | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/08/secured-windows-monopoly/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/08/secured-windows-monopoly/ [13:37] matey HyperbolaBSD is a great idea [13:38] matey ive been promoting openbsd as a preview [13:38] matey i realise that openbsd is never going to be fsdg-compatible (thats why hyperbola is a great idea) [13:38] CParadoxum__ Exactly, especially that they're hard-forking the kernel and getting it to work with an FSDG-compatible GNU userspace [13:38] matey maybe if enough people were happy with openbsd, they could HELP hyperbola become a reality [13:38] matey it would be WAY better than trisquel [13:39] schestowitz[TR] now there is rss feed support in the new tuxmachines CMS [13:39] schestowitz[TR] we're nearly done [13:39] matey (note i made a trisquel live with systemd removed-- they didnt even care) [13:40] matey (it wouldnt work today, upstart isnt in the repos anymore) [13:40] matey now there is rss feed support in the new tuxmachines CMS <- maybe it will answer my question (but probably not) [13:40] *CParadoxum__ has quit (You are no longer authorized to be on this server) [13:40] *CParadoxum___ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [13:41] TR News Criminals from "Microsoft control: The largest open source code hosting on Earth, a large portion of Linux conferences, The Linux Foundation, the Open Source Initiative, and prominent Linux developers." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166960#comment-34277 [13:41] TR Bot Microsoft Still Attacking From the Inside | Tux Machines [13:42] CParadoxum___ matey: I mean, Parabola supports OpenRC, so there's that [13:42] CParadoxum___ Also, sorry if I disconnect, trying to fix my nick [13:42] *CParadoxum___ is now known as CParadoxum1 [13:44] *phobos (~phobos@freenode-8o6.2md.iiqroa.IP) has joined #techrights [13:44] *phobos has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [13:46] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166991 [13:46] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [13:52] schestowitz[TR] lunduke said nothing new [13:52] schestowitz[TR] he also missed the 'big story" re OSI [13:52] schestowitz[TR] but OK [13:52] schestowitz[TR] better than notghing [13:53] schestowitz[TR] sometimes he spreads misinformatin [13:53] schestowitz[TR] which then discredits the camp that's sceptical and calling out the eee [13:53] schestowitz[TR] I did a view to explain that aspect [13:53] schestowitz[TR] e.g. http://techrights.org/2022/04/28/straw-men-issue/ [13:53] TR Bot Lunduke Touches an Important Set of Issues, But Still Gets Pertinent Details a Little Wrong | Techrights [13:54] matey which then discredits the camp that's sceptical <- he would need to have credibility to do this [13:54] TR News Humans in space, part 1: NASA and Old Space gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/flexibeast/gemlog/2022-07-08.gmi [13:54] matey i dont think he has any [13:54] schestowitz[TR] he worked for msft [13:54] schestowitz[TR] he tried to befriend me [13:54] schestowitz[TR] I did not respond [13:55] matey that was a foolish move [13:57] matey he also missed the 'big story" re OSI <- that they were hijacked in 1999 and ever since more and more? [13:57] matey thats open source for you. kowtow and deny. [13:57] matey open source bends over so you dont have to (decide) [13:57] matey join us now and bend over here it comes again [13:58] TR News The Linux Foundation is being called out on its embrace of DRM by Microsoft-connected podcasters today; what sort of example do Jim Zemlin and fellow imposters set? (They reject Open Source and Linux, but they misuse these brands) http://techrights.org/2022/07/08/lf-drm/ [13:58] TR Bot Linux Foundation Spreads Digital Restrictions Management (DRM) Disguised as Open Source | Techrights [13:58] matey youll, be shills, hackers! youll be shills... [13:58] TR News : The OSIs new (renovated) blog is still authored by full-time Microsoft employees, pushing proprietary software (GitHub) that the FSF and even SFC openly condemned. Todays OSI is a Microsoft-funded front group of Microsoft and it cannot fulfil the mission of the real (original) OSI http://techrights.org/2022/07/08/bought-osi/ [13:58] TR Bot OSI Blog: Composed by Microsoft, Promoting Microsofts Proprietary Software Again | Techrights [13:58] TR News Techrights was right about secure boot; its sole purpose it to take away computer users security http://techrights.org/2022/07/08/secured-windows-monopoly/ [13:58] TR Bot The Three Microsoft Stooges | Techrights [13:58] matey the main reason lunduke is in the industry is so he can vlog and show us his shit-eating grin [13:59] matey he couldnt make it in hollywood, this is the next best thing for him. [13:59] matey hes getting old and i predict botox injections in his near future [13:59] matey then if he cant smile like putin, he can get animatronic implants ● Jul 08 [14:00] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/08/seven-years-in-prison-for-moscow-legislator-over-army-discrediting-charges-news "Seven years in prison for Moscow legislator over army discrediting charges" [14:00] TR Bot . [14:00] matey that connect to his pure.bs phone over bluetooth [14:00] XRevan86 https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/08/a78243 [14:00] TR Bot timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/08/mothers-of-russian-soldiers-killed-in-ukraine-blame-pro-kremlin-reporters-a78243 ) [14:01] matey animatronic implants use machine learning to guess your mood [14:01] matey then they move your face accordingly [14:01] matey so if lunduke is awake, they guess hes feeling smug and put a smug look on his face [14:02] matey you dont really need machine learning for his kind, he could probably just have them give him a permanent grin, like the joker [14:02] matey WHY SO SERIOUS?-- lunduke [14:03] schestowitz[TR] XRevan86: in ukraine, the troops are mere weapon operators for EU and US [14:03] schestowitz[TR] and re risk, they are the cannon fodder too [14:03] schestowitz[TR] putler has his own pool of cannon fodder [14:03] schestowitz[TR] xi might even give him some more weapons later [14:03] schestowitz[TR] seeing hos tghe US-Chian trade conflicts escalate this summer [14:03] schestowitz[TR] *how the [14:03] XRevan86 Lysychansk could've been defended for months. [14:04] XRevan86 Instead Ukraine moved the troops away from a possible surrounding. [14:05] matey "anyway, we could-- bryan, why do you look like youre not huffing your own farts all of a sudden?" [14:05] matey "my implants got hacked" [14:05] TR News EPO committed serious crimes this past week, so it has been busy bombarding the Web site with such cruft, to deflect and distract the public from all the illegal things it is doing https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2022/20220708.html [14:05] TR Bot EPO - EPO provides insights into plant patenting practices [14:06] TR News PO is desperate to change the subject, in order for the corruption to carry on and be seen as "old news". [14:06] XRevan86 Now Russia knows its cannon fodder. [14:06] XRevan86 Mobilisation from the occupied territories of Ukraine is famous for its lack of training and equipment. [14:07] matey Now Russia knows its cannon fodder. <- what changed? [14:07] XRevan86 matey: Not much, except now fresh reservists are undertrained and thrown into the battlefield. [14:08] *KiKi_ (~KiKi@svp6nvmiuarba.irc) has joined #techrights [14:08] TR News "spring booster" as euphemism for plecebo. Research has shown that fourth jab has no real advantage. They just keep selling and selling. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/whats-new/record/a20edb1c-a7ce-4b62-aaf8-fa64ffb22f10 [14:08] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/whats-new/record/a20edb1c-a7ce-4b62-aaf8-fa64ffb22f10 ) [14:08] XRevan86 A lot of people call that a covert mobilisation. [14:08] XRevan86 Specific groups like prisoners are targeted. [14:09] matey oh, so its not just war, its deliberate extermination [14:09] matey what a classy guy [14:10] matey "i cant kill you all without looking bad, but i can send you into a bullshit war and look even worse!" [14:11] matey lets send in mel gibson to destroy him and/or have something horribly painful happen to him [14:12] schestowitz[TR] that would be mad [14:12] schestowitz[TR] to the max [14:12] matey or crazy mel, as most people know him [14:13] matey can you imagine how many used cars he could sell? [14:13] matey hi, im crazy mel, and if i dont sell 100 cars today, these guys are going to electrocute my testicles! theyre serious, too! [14:14] matey come on over and buy a car! its only the free world at stake here [14:15] matey around the 99th car or so he starts with the hard bargains [14:16] matey but then they dont call him crazy mel for nothing [14:17] XRevan86 matey: It's not that bad, it's (mostly) voluntary, although reportedly the promises aren't always kept. [14:17] matey it's (mostly) voluntary <- thats,,, good [14:17] XRevan86 "It's not that bad" <- But it is close. [14:17] matey less good then [14:17] matey the promises aren't always kept <- this sounds like a good slogan for russia in general [14:18] matey welcome to russia! the promises arent always kept [14:18] XRevan86 That's accurate. [14:18] matey maybe a title for a national anthem [14:18] matey of course you could make that the american anthem too. nations are notorious for creative accounting when it comes to promises made [14:19] XRevan86 When one lies to a person who's going to an almost certain death, that's a different level of scummy. [14:19] matey that sounds about right [14:19] matey what are the promises though [14:20] TR News Kubuntu upgrade - from 21.10 to 22.04 - Smooth as silk Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166992 [14:20] TR Bot Kubuntu upgrade - from 21.10 to 22.04 - Smooth as silk | Tux Machines [14:20] matey "we will clear your record and make you a hero" [14:20] XRevan86 matey: Moneys. [14:20] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166993 [14:20] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:20] matey hmm [14:20] XRevan86 To the family and such. [14:20] matey of course they wont say anything [14:21] matey they see the writing on the wall [14:21] XRevan86 No reports about the surviving ones because there isn't a precedent. [14:21] schestowitz[TR] Special Apparatus [14:21] XRevan86 Oh wait, that's not true, some people didn't get paid. [14:21] schestowitz[TR] Russia: special operations [14:21] schestowitz[TR] Ukraine: weapons operators (for USA) [14:21] matey warperation [14:22] XRevan86 I'm annoyed with coverage in English, it got pretty lazy lately. [14:22] matey anglophone attention span is not compatible with all conflicts [14:23] XRevan86 I mean the translators. [14:23] matey i wonder why they would get lazy [14:24] matey if a translator starts doing sub par work, doesnt it just make them look less skilled? 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Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [15:44] *swaggboi has quit (Read error: Connection timed out) [15:50] TR News Article Ideas for EPO Parrots | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/08/dross-for-epo-parrots/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/08/dross-for-epo-parrots/ [15:50] TR Bot Article Ideas for EPO Parrots | Techrights [15:52] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22070228 [15:53] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/4kyq7knhbi591.jpg created on 2022-07-02 11:19:14.862347 ● Jul 08 [16:01] matey 07/08/22 12:36 now it's more obvious <- this implies that something (public) was said or done, that suddenly made it more obvious [16:01] matey ive been trying to figure out for days why this isnt an arbitrary reaction / stance [16:01] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [16:01] matey im going to continue asking until someone can adequately explain what happened [16:01] matey until then, ill just assume everything from that source is bullshit / arbitrary / made up [16:02] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [16:02] matey except of course, things mentioned in passing to lend oneself credibility based on the obvious AND demonstrable [16:02] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights [16:02] matey ie "the sky is blue" now THAT really IS obvious [16:02] matey you can just look outside [16:02] matey and now: for no apparent reason, systemd is suddenly more microsoft than before [16:02] matey (whats the reason? i dont know, its so obvious i must have missed it) [16:03] matey my leg thinks it looks like rain [16:04] matey but i could be wrong, that would be fun. maybe lennart goes to join microsoft guido [16:04] matey thats not obvious, but it would at least explain how systemd is more microsoft than it was 6 months ago [16:05] matey heres a meme that: [16:05] matey no, just a dick-pull [16:05] matey my guess is it wont even come up again [16:06] matey because theres no actual story [16:06] matey it was just a dick-pull [16:06] matey clickbait dickbait [16:07] matey "its a show about nothing"-- seinfeld [16:08] matey our top story tonight https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalissimo_Francisco_Franco_is_still_dead [16:08] TR Bot Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead - Wikipedia [16:08] matey but now its more obvious [16:08] psydroid2 lennart and guido go to dallas [16:08] psydroid2 lennart and guido go to seattle [16:08] matey lennart does gentoo [16:08] XRevan86 MinceR: The space under his bed is the direction from which an attack on Belarus' was being prepared. [16:08] matey hot init system action! [16:08] psydroid2 they can create a whole series about them [16:08] psydroid2 lol [16:09] MinceR XRevan86: lol [16:13] matey they can create a whole series about them <- brings a whole new meaning to "kinky boots" https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=Vvjjm8hMdKI [16:13] TR Bot Patrick MacNee & Honor Blackman ("The Avengers") - Kinky Boots (1964) - Invidious [16:15] matey /me raises an eyebrow every time patrick macnee says "sexy little schoolgirls" [16:16] matey top of the pops! [16:17] psydroid2 it looks like "hacker news" isn't hacking it for me anymore [16:17] psydroid2 https://news.ycombinator.com/ [16:17] matey theyve been shills forever [16:17] TR Bot timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://news.ycombinator.com/ ) [16:17] matey roy is proud that they slag him off [16:17] MinceR and nothing of value was lost [16:17] matey better than praising him i guess, given that its hn [16:17] psydroid2 to see what shills had to say about the Secure Boot improvements [16:18] MinceR it would be an improvement to have PCs without Restricted Boot or UEFI [16:18] matey i think theyre in the middle on stallman, leaning towards his feet are the most important thing about him [16:19] matey i think its been 10 years since it was important what hn said [16:19] matey thats being nice [16:19] matey it implies it ever mattered [16:19] psydroid2 are we talking about unicorns now? [16:20] *psydroid2 is going to look for those mythical PCs without Restricted Boot or UEFI [16:20] MinceR :> [16:21] matey theyre not a myth, you can technically make your own [16:21] matey you can replace uefi (afaik) [16:22] matey but... on x86 i think theres a catch [16:22] matey part of the me has to stay there, or else? [16:22] matey im not up to date on this, this was my understanding a few years ago [16:22] matey im assuming someone would have mentioned if this changed [16:22] MinceR you just need your own chip fab and some way to deal with all the Imaginary Property in the way [16:22] MinceR or just execute all the monopolists [16:23] matey not to replace most of uefi [16:23] matey i think secure boot can be removed [16:23] matey or just execute all the monopolist <- that works too [16:23] MinceR i'd prefer to remove all of uefi, since it's bloated fragile cancerous shit [16:23] matey agreed [16:24] matey is me really part of uefi though? [16:24] MinceR for the sake of locking users into windows and macOS, they made the boot firmware as bloated as a kernel, and yet they couldn't even put a proper boot menu in the standard [16:24] MinceR ME is not part of UEFI [16:24] matey as i understand it has its own dedicated hw, its not just firmware [16:24] matey its got its own core and it runs minix (the firmware of which i dont know where it is) [16:25] matey so maybe you can replace ALL of uefi [16:25] matey just not all malicious firmware/hw [16:25] matey but all of uefi [16:25] psydroid2 from what I've read ME is embedded in the chipset and if it has been tampered with your system will shut down in 30 minutes [16:25] MinceR yeah [16:25] MinceR and intel systems rely on the ME for power management [16:25] matey from what I've read ME is embedded in the chipset and if it has been tampered with your system will shut down in 30 minute <- this is what i was getting at with "or else" [16:25] MinceR so if you do manage to deactivate it, you might not be able to suspend, hibernate, or even reduce power consumption [16:25] matey you CAN tamper with it in ways that avoid the shutdown [16:26] matey but you cant fully remove it [16:26] matey so if you do manage to deactivate it, you might not be able to suspend, hibernate, or even reduce power consumpt <- hell thats just as true for systemd :) [16:26] psydroid2 you CAN tamper with Windows so it doesn't call home [16:26] psydroid2 but is that really what computing should be about? [16:26] matey /me prefers to remove windows completely [16:26] MinceR power management works fine without cancerd [16:26] matey but is that really what computing should be about? <- agreed [16:26] *psydroid2 prefers to remove x86 completely [16:26] MinceR at least for now, anyway [16:26] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [16:27] matey but if i cant remove it, i like having the ability to disable as much of it as possible [16:27] matey until i can remove it [16:27] matey or use something that doesnt have it [16:27] matey provided (a list of caveats worse than etc) [16:28] *psydroid2 doesn't summon l e a h [16:30] *matey has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:32] *matey (~matey@z865xeq3uppfe.irc) has joined #techrights [16:32] matey whee [16:33] MinceR arrrgh [16:34] *swaggboi has quit (Read error: Connection timed out) [16:35] matey if systemd is microsoft so is gnu shepherd / duix [16:35] MinceR ? [16:35] XRevan86 https://theins.press/news/252982 [16:35] TR Bot We will have to admit that a war is a war. The last word of Alexei Gorinov sentenced to 7 years in prison for fakes [16:35] matey gnu shepherd uses elogind [16:35] MinceR sad [16:35] matey i think they actually forked elogind on github, so... [16:35] matey they made their own copy, which i think only makes sense [16:36] matey but they did it on github, meaning even guix puts microsoft at the core of their operations [16:36] MinceR at least when elogind was new, it liked to kill background processes the way cancerd does [16:36] MinceR so it wasn't properly sanitized of poetteringisms [16:36] matey if you consider elogind "core" in any way, which i do [16:36] matey certainly not THE core, but part of it [16:36] MinceR so elogind can fuck up your system too [16:36] XRevan86 https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/07/08/dpr-waives-death-penalty-moratorium-news "DPR waives death penalty moratorium" [16:36] TR Bot . [16:36] matey so it wasn't properly sanitized of poetteringisms <- no, the fsf doesnt do that. gnu doesnt do that. [16:36] matey hyperbola does their best, which is admirable [16:36] matey they are obviously stuck in a past where the fsf actually stood for anything [16:36] MinceR the only advantage i've seen it is that at least libelogind is less likely to add malicious code than libsystemd is [16:36] XRevan86 https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/07/08/a78248 [16:37] TR Bot Russian 'McDonald's' Runs Short of French Fries - The Moscow Times [16:37] matey less likely, but youre still trusting github [16:37] MinceR because it was forked when it did nothing without cancerd [16:37] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [16:37] matey it was forked when it did nothing without cancerd <- i still take offense [16:37] matey i dont like having software inserted as a suppository [16:38] MinceR :> [16:38] matey so no part of systemd is suitable for my purposes [16:38] matey if systemd ever comes up with a daemon that destroys systemd entirely throughout the world [16:38] matey i would consider running systemd-selfdestructd [16:38] matey other than that i have no use for it [16:39] schestowitz[TR] good news from work [16:39] schestowitz[TR] i will write about it later [16:39] matey they know why systemd is microsoft ? [16:39] schestowitz[TR] no [16:39] matey they should, its obvious [16:39] schestowitz[TR] we still use ubuntu and debian mostly [16:40] matey /me informs watchdogs that new fsf articles are fake news and unreliable [16:41] matey "this is an infotising scam" [16:42] matey "theyre just trying to get you to give them money, which they spend on more infotising" [16:42] matey "i also think theres undisclosed incentives to do product placement with pogo sticks, as any other explanation is absurd" [16:43] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:43] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:45] matey https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=lC5lsemxaJo&t=60 [16:46] TR Bot Michael's Pyramid Scheme - The Office US - Invidious [16:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [16:48] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [16:48] matey the fsf always (at least since some time in the 90s) had this problem [16:49] MinceR (cat) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/tRfFsKE.jpeg [16:49] matey of uppity developers (hereafter referred to as "cunts") proudly boasting that you would have no choice but to run their shit [16:49] matey this includes gnome and systemd devs and their fanboys [16:49] matey since free software is about controlling your computing [16:50] matey and freedom 3 (if not the others) implies that you can do something about this [16:50] matey it should have troubled them that people were boasting you wouldnt be able to do anything about their work [16:50] matey instead, they got taken over by the same people. [16:50] matey now the people who boasted youd have to do what they say run the organisational side of the movement [16:51] matey and somehow, selling "youll have no choice, in your face" as "youre in control of your computing" isnt fraud [16:51] matey but it IS a scam. [16:52] matey its also the same thing microsoft does [16:52] XRevan86 * https://theins.press/en/news/252983 [16:52] *rianne (~rianne@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [16:52] TR Bot We will have to admit that a war is a war. The last word of Alexei Gorinov sentenced to 7 years in prison for fakes [16:52] *asusbox (~rianne@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [16:52] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights [16:53] matey the put a layer of graphical controls over a gulag and make you feel like you control your computing, until it becomes painfully obvious that youre their bitch [16:53] matey guix does the same thing, but they put scripting over it [16:53] matey systemd does the same thing, but-- no buts, really [16:54] matey systemd at best gives us an idea of what it would be like if microsoft actually released the source code to windows [16:54] *psydroid2 switches from slackware to lennartcuntware [16:54] matey the fsf would bend over for it, and tell people its freedom-- even while it continues to send their information to microsoft (which is exactly what github does) [16:55] XRevan86 https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1545420839159578626 weird democracy-smacking humour [16:55] TR Bot Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Meanwhile on Russian state TV: member of the State Duma, who also hosts 60 Minutes on state TV, Evgeny Popov complains that Russia can't influence who will replace Boris Johnson "the way they elected Trump for the U.S." and therefore they'll have to wait and see who is appointed."|nitter [16:55] matey democracy is good if you can figure out how to keep it [16:56] matey theres a bit of a catch-22 with democracy, which i dont think is a dealbreaker, but it certainly complicates things [16:56] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [16:56] matey that is, people end up voting for, or sometimes believe they voted for, measures to eliminate democracy [16:56] matey theres a great fix for that catch-22 though [16:56] matey arm all the citizens [16:57] matey its a great way to keep democracy going [16:57] matey and the only way to establish one in the first place! [16:58] XRevan86 https://nitter.net/ukraine_map/status/1545116903798181888 Same difference. [16:58] TR Bot Ukraine Battle Map (@ukraine_map): "Debunking the Russian Ministry of Defense HIMARS destruction video released on July 6th It takes place in Kodema, Donetsk Coordinates (48.47202,38.07381) The objects that were claimed to be destroyed were not two HIMARS Systems, and were most likely four above ground Oil tanks"|nitter [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [16:59] matey if youre smart, youll try to educate people at the same time [16:59] matey not before, at the same time ● Jul 08 [17:00] matey and certainly not after [17:00] XRevan86 MLRS, Petroleum Containers, they're the same thing. [17:01] matey /me has never heard of either [17:01] matey tankers? [17:02] XRevan86 matey: Tanks, cisterns. [17:02] XRevan86 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_tank this sort of thing [17:02] TR Bot Water tank - Wikipedia [17:04] XRevan86 So Ukraine got 4 M142 HIMARS' in operation, Russia claimed to have destroyed two, that is denied by Ukraine. [17:04] XRevan86 And the objects Russia claimed to be M142's are most likely petroleum tanks. [17:06] XRevan86 That: https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/07/6/7356618/ [17:06] TR Bot Occupiers state that they have destroyed two HIMARS MLRS. Ukrainian military denies this | Ukrayinska Pravda [17:07] XRevan86 MLRS means https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_rocket_launcher [17:07] TR Bot Multiple rocket launcher - Wikipedia [17:08] matey the objects Russia claimed to be M142's are most likely petroleum tanks. <- saddam may have been stockpiling petroleum tanks as well [17:08] matey people were very concerned about metal cylinders of various shapes and sizes [17:09] matey even water pipes were scrutinised (you cant be too careful) [17:10] matey the concern of course, why would anyone need so much petroleum? it doesnt add up [17:10] XRevan86 matey: The next logical conclusion is that Saddam was hoarding HIMARS'. [17:10] matey does everyone have 11 cars? are they running centos off a generator? [17:11] matey The next logical conclusion is that Saddam was hoarding HIMARS <- probably in a giant underground lair [17:11] matey bigger than iraq itself and completely under the surface [17:12] matey encroaching on the underground of various neighbouring countries [17:12] matey with a tunnel all the way to canada (the site of a future oil pipeline) [17:12] matey canada cannot be trusted [17:13] matey so it was a question of national sovereignty, not only for allies but even for people in north america [17:13] matey obviously informing the public about this was a non-option, so they were blamed for 9/11 instead [17:13] *techrights_guest|45 (~5f55654e@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [17:14] matey the other problem of course is ukraine developing extra-terrestrial technology that bridges the worlds of the living and dead, ushering in the apocalypse [17:14] matey to say the least, this needs to be stopped [17:15] matey the best time to stop it was 7 or 10 years ago when they started developing it [17:15] matey but not at least, its more obvious [17:15] XRevan86 matey: The most disgusting aspect of it is how they employ biolab-engineered birds for this. [17:15] matey now [17:16] matey biolab-engineered birds <- yeah its almost like they WANT another pandemic [17:16] matey unfortunately the only leader with the will to do something about this is putin [17:16] matey he was reaching out to the world to avoid a unilateral move [17:16] matey but theyre simply too conservative [17:17] XRevan86 matey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuliia_Paievska Her nickname is taken from Warcraft, coincidence? [17:17] TR Bot Yuliia Paievska - Wikipedia [17:17] matey there are no coincidences [17:17] matey everything is very distinctly connected to literally everything else [17:17] matey no exceptions [17:17] XRevan86 Oh wait, the crow in Warcraft was good, I forgot. [17:17] matey a convenient cover story [17:19] XRevan86 But just from sheer volume there has to be an evil bird somewhere in there. [17:20] *techrights_guest|45 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [17:21] matey there has to be an evil bird somewhere in there <- the good news is that once the source of the evil is dealt with, ukraine will stop fighting and work peacefully to reach an agreement with russians petroleum industry [17:22] XRevan86 matey: Or better yet, realise the utter wrongness of their sovereign ways and join the new Russian Empire. [17:24] *matey has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:29] *swaggboi has quit (Read error: Connection timed out) [17:29] *matey (~matey@q4fap2q4w6mau.irc) has joined #techrights [17:29] matey matey: Or better yet, realise the utter wrongness of their sovereign ways and join the new Russian Empire. [17:29] matey i think that goes without saying! but one step at a time [17:30] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights [17:33] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [17:43] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22070224 [17:43] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/cDnkFBb.png created on 2022-07-02 09:14:15.218506 ● Jul 08 [18:03] *swaggboi has quit (Read error: Connection timed out) [18:04] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights [18:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-07.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-07-08.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [18:41] *bnchs (~bnchs@ajcjnvqu423sq.irc) has joined #techrights [18:41] *bnchs (~bnchs@user/bnchs) has joined #techrights [18:41] *bnchs (~bnchs@user/bnchs) has left #techrights [18:41] bnchs https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Lenovo-Pluton-Windows-Default [18:41] TR Bot Lenovo AMD Laptops With Pluton Co-Processor Reportedly Only Boot Windows By Default - Phoronix [18:41] bnchs mjg59_ gone real quiet after this dropped [18:43] MinceR he said this: 08 085409 < mjg59_> Well, daemonfc will be delighted to see me criticising Lenovo for actually doing something hostile to free software [18:43] MinceR i guess mjg59_ is very insensitive to hostility to free software :> [18:44] mjg59_ bnchs: Yeah uh did you notice who Phoronix is quoting there [18:44] bnchs yes [18:44] bnchs they quoted you [18:45] bnchs but they also quoted that you said it wasn't a big deal at first [18:45] MinceR oh snap [18:45] mjg59_ Yeah it's 100% unrelated to Pluton [18:45] mjg59_ There are two separate things happening here [18:48] bnchs i guess only time will tell [18:48] mjg59_ By default the systems ship with Pluton disabled - turning Pluton on actually breaks Windows boot (because Bitlocker) [18:48] MinceR lol [18:49] MinceR that's like MICROS~1 getting code merged in Linux that has a hardcoded call to an rc script, meaning that it won't work with cancerd [18:49] matey a chip that breaks windows, made by microsoft [18:49] MinceR then again, MICROS~1's crap being incompatible with itself is nothing new [18:49] matey /me isnt surprised either [18:50] matey somehow, we all know linux is to blame for this [18:50] matey s/saddam/linux/ [18:50] matey linux bin laden [18:51] matey /me checks under the bed [18:51] MinceR :> [18:51] MinceR /usr/bin/laden [18:51] matey its merged with /usr/laden now [18:52] MinceR lol [18:52] matey he is hiding his real location with the cunning use of symlinks [18:53] matey then again, MICROS~1's crap being incompatible with itself is nothing new <- i think theyre trying to establish intellectual property over bugs [18:54] matey that way whenever software has a bug in it, they can claim royalties [18:54] matey if not outright ownership [18:54] MinceR :> [18:54] matey otherwise, you explain github [18:54] matey "we invented software bugs, these linux developers are clearly infringing" [18:55] psydroid2 quantitive secure boot superiority [18:55] matey its like sco all over again [18:56] psydroid2 "gotta make sure that secure boot works, my hamsters gotta eat" [18:56] psydroid2 "and so do my frogs" [18:57] matey the hamster eats the bugs, the frog eats the hamster, the french eat the frogs, the germans eat the french [18:58] matey ibm eats the germans, and microsoft eats ibm [18:58] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvf6gz58xnI [18:58] TR Bot https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=dvf6gz58xnI [18:58] matey its the circle of life, circle of hell edition [18:58] bnchs https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/76/760CD433B572351AB5D586CFC4C5E1F4_1LINUX.GIF [18:58] TR Bot timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=dvf6gz58xnI ) [18:58] MinceR ^ placeboing | Gay Frogs (Alex Jones REMIX) | Extended / Perfect Loop [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [18:59] matey /me wonders if alex jones did any original research to find out if tap water makes him gay ● Jul 08 [19:00] matey "it made me gay for a couple weeks but the good news is it wears off" [19:00] psydroid2 hacker news is still offline, I wonder if the hamsters have anything to do with that [19:03] matey hacker news is still offline, I wonder if the hamsters have anything to do with that <- if weve learned anything from jk rowling/gilbraith its probably the crossdressing hamsters who did it [19:03] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/2207029 [19:03] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/kieausq5rr791.jpg created on 2022-07-02 03:24:47.727394 [19:04] schestowitz[TR] matey: offline? [19:04] matey it was the gender-bending butler in the champagne room, with the [19:04] matey ^ mincer [19:04] TR News Slimbook Executive Linux Ultrabooks Now Ship with 12th Gen Intel Alder Lake CPUs Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166994 [19:04] TR Bot Slimbook Executive Linux Ultrabooks Now Ship with 12th Gen Intel Alder Lake CPUs | Tux Machines [19:04] matey it was the gender-bending butler in the champagne room, with the battery-powered toothbrush [19:04] matey or at least it usually is [19:04] MinceR killing with an electric toothbrush? [19:05] MinceR sounds like Doom III: Mr Smiley Head's Death Safari [19:05] matey killing with an electric toothbrush? <- it also kills gingivitis [19:05] MinceR (among many other things, it replaces the chainsaw with an electric toothbrush) [19:07] TR News NHS said there would be weekly update every week (Friday). They lied. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ no update. 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[19:08] matey "grints disease" [19:08] matey "oh" [19:11] matey /me looks for a charity that does mc1r gene research in hopes of a cure [19:16] *psydroid2 isn't aware of any case of sheeranitis [19:16] matey it might affect people regionally [19:19] *matey has quit (connection closed) [19:23] schestowitz[TR] lennart and guido go to dallas [19:23] schestowitz[TR] lennart de guido does dallas [19:23] schestowitz[TR] in seattle, WA [19:24] MinceR lennart does GNU [19:24] schestowitz[TR] lennart-deasd [19:25] schestowitz[TR] lennart got prematurely terminated by oomd [19:25] schestowitz[TR] he was respawned in satan nuttela's belly [19:26] schestowitz[TR] bnchs calls him satan nuttela [19:26] MinceR asatya nadella [19:29] schestowitz[TR] mac asatya [19:29] schestowitz[TR] "matt asay" [19:30] schestowitz[TR] the novell mormon who fell in love with nutella [19:31] TR News As just noted in a cartoon, the media isnt performing its most basic duties; instead it helps Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos distract from their crimes, along with Team UPCs illegal actions http://techrights.org/2022/07/08/dross-for-epo-parrots/ [19:31] TR Bot Article Ideas for EPO Parrots | Techrights [19:31] TR News The EPOs distraction machine has been working overtime every day for the past 10 days http://techrights.org/2022/07/08/epo-media-control-iam/ [19:31] TR Bot [Meme] EPO Cartoon: I AM Here to Help Cover Up Crimes | Techrights [19:33] TR News "FOOTBALL is back in a few weeks (envision all those packed stadiums with working class superspreaders), Borisnaro is going to leave (without any accountability or any fines whatsoever), and todays COVID-19 numbers, which shockingly enough have been relegated to a weekly release" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/07/08/placebo-boosters/ [19:33] TR Bot Blog Archive Placebo Boosters Wont Be Enough to Curtail This Summers COVID-19 Spike [19:34] TR News "Watching these home videos of ammunition dumps exploding through glass windows gives me the creeps: the Halifax Explosion ended up with buckets full of eyes, after glass window fragments damaged so many watching the show from indoors." https://meeksfamily.uk/~michael/blog [19:34] TR Bot Stuff Michael Meeks is doing [19:36] TR News Another one on Microsoft systemd http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166960#comment-34278 [19:36] TR Bot Microsoft Still Attacking From the Inside | Tux Machines [19:38] TR News Apple itself attacks people on behalf of nation states; funny how NSA Schneier suddenly pretends not to kn ow about Snowden's leaks https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/07/apples-lockdown-mode.html [19:38] TR Bot Lockdown Mode - Schneier on Security [19:52] *oarion7 (~anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [19:53] TR News "A Quick overview of Linux Lite 6.0." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bxVAukz72NY [19:53] TR Bot Linux Lite 6.0 Quick overview #linux #linuxlite #Shorts - Invidious [19:53] TR News Linux Crash Course - The head and tail Commands - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5EqL6Fc7NNw Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia [19:54] TR Bot Linux Crash Course - The head and tail Commands - Invidious [19:54] TR News "talk for Hills Road students on skills needed for a career in Software Engineering" https://meeksfamily.uk/~michael/blog [19:55] TR News Move A Running Process From One Terminal To Another Without Closing It https://ostechnix.com/reptyr-move-running-process-new-terminal/ Source: OSTechNix | GNU | Linux | FreeSW [19:55] TR Bot Move A Running Process From One Terminal To Another Without Closing It [19:59] *swaggboi has quit (Read error: Connection timed out) ● Jul 08 [20:06] TR News Spamnil's site mentions "ransomware" today, does not mention Windows. It's primarily a Microsoft issue. http://techrights.org/2021/05/02/ransomware-task-force/ [20:06] TR Bot Microsoft-Centric Ransomware Task Force | Techrights [20:08] TR News [It is proprietary though] Can YOUR browser do this? - Vivaldi 5.3 Impressions - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=yoGfHNG702k Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia [20:08] TR Bot Can YOUR browser do this? - Vivaldi 5.3 Impressions - Invidious [20:09] TR News The 12 Best Vim Plugins to Improve Your Workflow https://www.makeuseof.com/best-vim-plugins/ Source: makeuseof [20:09] TR Bot The 12 Best Vim Plugins to Improve Your Workflow [20:10] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/2207027 [20:10] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/bgxvt12vgd891.jpg created on 2022-07-02 02:16:24.254277 [20:11] TR News Seniors do not deserve tracking, listening and spying devices. In fact, few of them truly need such malicious devices. They rarely ask for it, but well-meaning kids throw their old "phones" at them as "gifts" https://www.maketecheasier.com/useful-android-accessibility-options/ [20:11] TR Bot 7 Android Accessibility Tweaks to Set Up a Phone for Seniors - Make Tech Easier [20:12] TR News Pluton? This is about Microsoft/Intel ANTI-security boot (a boot in your arse!) https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Lenovo-Pluton-Windows-Default [20:12] TR Bot Lenovo AMD Laptops With Pluton Co-Processor Reportedly Only Boot Windows By Default - Phoronix [20:13] TR News Intel put me on a conference call with some managers trying to convince me "secure" boot was OK. They failed. I still have the whole thing recorded, but never published it. [20:14] TR News "Phoronix benchmarks" = gift assessments. Mama: son did you like my gift? The son: hmmm... errrr... hmmm... yeah, it was OK, thank you, mom. [20:16] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights [20:18] psydroid2 fortunately LarAMDel will be able to five a first-hand account when he gets his hands on his new Pluton-infested Lenovo Thinkpad 13X with a new backdoored AMD CPU [20:19] schestowitz[TR] yeah [20:19] schestowitz[TR] he will love it [20:19] schestowitz[TR] "thank you, masir, y I have another? [20:19] schestowitz[TR] *sair, may [20:19] schestowitz[TR] *sir, may [20:20] schestowitz[TR] https://yewtu.be./watch?v=bIZoVO8ZyyQ [20:20] TR Bot Thank You Sir May I Have Another - Invidious [20:20] schestowitz[TR] left: SMD [20:20] schestowitz[TR] *AMD [20:20] schestowitz[TR] right: Microsoft [20:21] psydroid2 give* [20:22] TR News "The July 2nd, 2022 release of DietPi v8.6 comes with a new image for Quartz64, new software options Prometheus Node Exporter, Tailscale, Rclone and ZeroTier. It has updated Amiberry packages, new PiVPN and HAProxy features, and more." https://dietpi.com/docs/releases/v8_6/ [20:22] TR Bot July 2022 - DietPi.com Docs [20:23] bnchs inb4 behind the scenes, microsoft pushed lenevo to use microsoft keys only instead of microsoft 3rd party keys [20:23] bnchs why else would they be seperate [20:25] TR News "We continue to remember our friend and colleague Sherwin Siy. Please join us for an anniversary memorial to share our stories and memories of Sherwin with his family, close friends, and colleagues." https://publicknowledge.org/remembering-sherwin-siy-a-year-later/ [20:25] TR Bot Remembering Sherwin Siy a Year Later - Public Knowledge [20:25] TR News http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166995 [20:25] TR Bot Introducing the r600/NIR back-end | Tux Machines [20:26] TR News Introducing the r600/NIR back-end Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166995 [20:26] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166996 [20:26] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:27] MinceR 08 212044 < schestowitz[TR]> https://yewtu.be./watch?v=bIZoVO8ZyyQ [20:27] MinceR https://youtu.be/8BHsSx9k8hk?t=190 https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8BHsSx9k8hk&t=190 [20:27] TR Bot NO TITLE [20:27] TR Bot YGOTAS Episode 58 - Desperately Dueling Susan - LittleKuriboh - Invidious [20:34] psydroid2 "Good, make this mandatory on every x86 CPU. 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[20:35] TR Bot DebConf22 Cheese and Wine Party - Bits from Debian [20:36] schestowitz[TR] psydroid2: mjg59_ seeks hideout [20:36] TR News "The Deck has received two Steam Deck Client Beta updates in the past week (here and there)." https://boilingsteam.com/steam-deck-client-and-steamos-updates-for-a-hot-summer/ [20:37] TR Bot Steam Deck Client and SteamOS Updates For a Hot Summer - Boiling Steam [20:37] TR News Papers, Please and Machinarium Land as Steam Deck Verified Titles - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/papers-please-and-machinarium-land-as-steam-deck-verified-titles/ Source: boilingsteam [20:37] TR Bot Papers, Please and Machinarium Land as Steam Deck Verified Titles - Boiling Steam [20:38] TR News Godot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.5 RC 6 https://godotengine.org/article/release-candidate-godot-3-5-rc-6 Source: godotengine [20:38] TR Bot Godot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.5 RC 6 [20:38] psydroid2 someone told me you can build a reasonable PC for 500-600 without a GPU, which is still 2-3 times as expensive as an ARM SBC with a bit underwhelming CPU but otherwise onboard RAM and all the inputs and outputs you need [20:39] TR News Real news: Canonical made bloat called Snap/s/d. 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[20:43] MinceR (cat) https://rimgo.bcow.xyz/gallery/ixYadG7 [20:43] TR Bot Relaxed cat is relaxed - rimgo [20:43] psydroid2 well, then there is x86 for you [20:43] MinceR yeah, but that sucks as well, just in a different way [20:43] MinceR why is this industry so incompetent? [20:43] TR News "dgmi is a simple tool I threw together that provides PHP-like functionality for gemini. It's basically gemtext but with inline CGI, so you get the convenience of gemtext with the power of CGI." gemini://tilde.cafe/~winter/gemlog/2022-07-08_dgmi.dgmi [20:43] psydroid2 it sucks less for some people who are used to the old ways [20:44] TR News "It's hard to see this as anything more than laundering the reputation of a far right, nationalist, atrocity denier. 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[20:57] TR News Devices: Xilinx, ESP32, DietPi Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166999 [20:57] TR Bot Devices: Xilinx, ESP32, DietPi | Tux Machines [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [20:59] TR News Security and FUD Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167000 [20:59] TR Bot Security and FUD Leftovers | Tux Machines ● Jul 08 [21:00] *tessier_ has quit (Quit: leaving) [21:01] TR News Links 08/07/2022: Godot 3.5 RC 6 and DebConf22 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/07/08/godot-3-5-rc-6/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/08/godot-3-5-rc-6/ [21:01] TR Bot Links 08/07/2022: Godot 3.5 RC 6 and DebConf22 | Techrights [21:08] *phobos (~phobos@freenode-8o6.2md.iiqroa.IP) has joined #techrights [21:08] *phobos has quit (Changing host) [21:08] *phobos (~phobos@freenode/user/phobos) has joined #techrights [21:27] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/condoms.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-condoms#comic ) [21:27] TR Bot & Happiness (Explosm.net) [21:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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[23:36] XRevan86 Well, maybe the word "bought" is not exactly right here. [23:36] XRevan86 They were trying to buy one and then the manufacturer gifted one to them. [23:38] *psymin (~psymin@freenode-2ft.k30.kbr670.IP) has joined #techrights [23:39] *psymin has quit (Connection closed) [23:39] MinceR :> [23:39] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [23:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [23:40] XRevan86 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://theins.press/news/252901 [23:40] TR Bot [23:41] XRevan86 "Rostelecom and Megafon take advantage of unencrypted sites to promote war in Ukraine" [23:41] XRevan86 I've been waiting for someone in the English space to cover this, but it isn't happening. [23:41] XRevan86 And this particular news is somewhat relevant to this channel. [23:57] *phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)