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XRevan86So, Mastodon actually broke Atom…Aug 08 00:12
XRevan86https://mastodon.social/users/gargron.atomAug 08 00:13
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MinceR(audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/07/25/56b35c877d212a9c.mp4Aug 08 00:14
XRevan86MinceR: Cool, pointless and wasteful %)Aug 08 00:17
MinceR:)Aug 08 00:19
scientesMinceR, cuteAug 08 00:21
scientesXRevan86, except that whole numbers from 0 to 2^51 - 1 can be represented with a double losslesslyAug 08 00:23
scientesand also to negative 2^51 + 1Aug 08 00:23
XRevan86scientes: Margin of error occurs with equations.Aug 08 00:24
scientesugggh, i'm procrasticatingAug 08 00:24
scientesits so easy to procrasticateAug 08 00:24
scientesI'd probably with the world's best procrasticator awardAug 08 00:24
MinceRbut how's your procrastination?Aug 08 00:26
XRevan86scientes: I have a task for you, a very important one.Aug 08 00:26
XRevan86scientes: You need to relax and do nothing.Aug 08 00:26
scientesWhen you don't know what to do, do *something*.Aug 08 00:27
XRevan86There's no immediate urgency, so take all the time you need. But still do it well and as soon as conveniently possible.Aug 08 00:27
scientesReportedly, [Victor Hugo] would get his servant to strip him of his clothes and underwear and leave him naked in his study until he resumed work. Only then would he be allowed to work in comfort again.Aug 08 00:28
XRevan86Correction: you need to do the least important tasksAug 08 00:28
XRevan86the current task excluded, of course, we don't want paradoxesAug 08 00:29
scientesheheAug 08 00:29
psydroidwhen you think you are the world's best procrastinator, the world invents a better procrastinatorAug 08 00:34
psydroid(that would be me, I guess)Aug 08 00:34
scientespsydroid, so you have more to aspire to!Aug 08 00:34
psydroidscientes, definitely!Aug 08 00:35
scientesbut not actually accomplish heheAug 08 00:35
psydroidhahaAug 08 00:35
XRevan86I'm actually the best procrastinator here.Aug 08 00:37
MinceRi could write a script that procrastinates better than any humanAug 08 00:42
MinceRmaybe someday i'll do itAug 08 00:42
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: REUSE makes copyright and licensing easier than ever http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126716 [https://pleroma.site/objects/62fa9fb0-491e-4df3-a1db-4a5e208c5895]Aug 08 01:31
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Best Command-Line-Only Video Games http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126717 [https://pleroma.site/objects/49f1d73f-93ce-4947-b4db-a24a15b7d68b]Aug 08 01:32
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126718 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b1dae3f8-61e3-47c5-9602-a0d00e0d2d94]Aug 08 01:34
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 10.1-inch WUXGA panel PC runs Linux or Android on an i.MX8M http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126719 [https://pleroma.site/objects/adc1265f-685b-408b-9cac-84da45a40ea7]Aug 08 01:37
MrGreenFrienddMinceR,  hahaAug 08 01:50
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Platform Exclusives - A Linux Perspective http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126721 [https://pleroma.site/objects/036c8e6f-e275-4eb3-a0ee-666b704d92ae]Aug 08 02:06
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Technical vision for Qt 6 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126722 [https://pleroma.site/objects/55b64dfe-57e5-4bfe-8c0f-757243d7da57]Aug 08 02:18
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: AMD and NVIDIA News and Developments, Benchmarks http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126723 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c3e1590d-00f4-4b2c-855e-9baef9875b5a]Aug 08 02:30
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Running GNOME in a Container http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126724 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6aa678ad-4398-4150-81de-9c7aa1f1859c]Aug 08 02:34
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: ANNOUNCE: gtk-vnc 1.0.0 release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126725 [https://pleroma.site/objects/76e239ac-6cd5-4a2e-9847-cdd9f2b50563]Aug 08 02:49
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: LibreOffice or FreeOffice? Manjaro Gives You the Right to Choose http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126726 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a2e994f2-ff2c-4e60-8520-22ef8a39360d]Aug 08 02:52
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Matthias Clasen: #Pango 1.44 wrap-up http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126727 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b9139ffe-f3f1-4439-9d04-18e7aa553821]Aug 08 02:58
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Top 4 Best Blogging Software for Linux in 2019 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126728 [https://pleroma.site/objects/17a47738-2a33-4a6a-8751-4135b3594ad2]Aug 08 03:12
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Patches, QualPwn, Overhyped KDE 'Threat' and FUD About VLC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126729 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0d4849e8-60a6-401f-b57b-c7e456047c4d]Aug 08 03:17
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 11 Best Free Linux Astronomical Data Analysis Tools http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126731 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e989b71a-88ea-417e-95be-f51abb843439]Aug 08 03:29
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scientesugggh large incomprehensible code mbasesAug 08 03:41
scientesspeghetti codeAug 08 03:41
scientesis there a way to just export all symbolsAug 08 03:42
scientesi can't even link to this speghettiAug 08 03:42
scientesand when the package only builds onceAug 08 03:45
scientesand then you have to check it out again freshAug 08 03:45
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Ostriv, Anodyne 2: Return to Dust, Gunslugs:Rogue Tactics http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126733 [https://pleroma.site/objects/34999ae9-208d-4966-89b3-b91210190041]Aug 08 03:49
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Server: Kubeflow, Sysdig, Mesosphere and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126734 [https://pleroma.site/objects/76e2df44-b982-4bcf-b5b8-13ad11e17afd]Aug 08 04:03
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Porting Games To Linux Is A Waste Of Time? This Game Developer Says You're Doing It Wrong http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126735 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b11a9b54-afef-4151-b746-74d12005a25e]Aug 08 04:15
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Fund Raising: The Free Software Foundation (FSF) and Capsule8 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126736 [https://pleroma.site/objects/07777e65-36e8-447c-bce4-12688bab6d96]Aug 08 04:41
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Fedora and IBM: NeuroFedora Spin/Lab Master, Fedora 30 on Google Compute Engine, Red Hat Integrators http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126737 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ab13df53-6795-4e95-bd38-e012744b9d5a]Aug 08 04:48
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 8/8/2019: Xfce Settings 4.13.8, Lars Knoll on Qt 6, VLC Fights Back Against FUD War on FOSS http://techrights.org/2019/08/07/xfce-settings-4-13-8/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/2d0df984-0201-42f5-b935-ecd63d4b2937]Aug 08 05:01
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Guest Post: Enough is Enough! http://techrights.org/2019/08/07/enough-is-enough/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/3d1992e5-e6f4-410a-9ed0-4a150272b819]Aug 08 05:20
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MinceR(audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/07/25/97a383e91de79bcc.mp4Aug 08 11:07
schestowitz"Aug 08 11:10
schestowitz>> Ok.  I think I've figured out some of the UTF-8 problem.  Firefox, amongAug 08 11:10
schestowitz>> others, defaults to Windows-1525 or whatever.  That causes UTF8 toAug 08 11:10
schestowitz>> render / be processed incorrectly.Aug 08 11:10
schestowitz>>Aug 08 11:10
schestowitz>> However, looking at the insides of today's web sites has been one of theAug 08 11:10
schestowitz>> most depressing things I have experienced in recent decades.  IAug 08 11:10
schestowitz>> underestimated the cruft in an earlier message.  Probably 95% of theAug 08 11:10
schestowitz>> bytes transmitted between client and server have nothing to do withAug 08 11:10
schestowitz>> content.  That's a truly rotten infrastructure upon which society isAug 08 11:11
schestowitz>> tottering.Aug 08 11:11
schestowitz>>Aug 08 11:11
schestowitz>> As for the script itself, with some exceptions, it was mostly fast andAug 08 11:11
schestowitz>> fun to write.  Attached is an improved version.  It should handle UTF8 ok.Aug 08 11:11
schestowitz>Aug 08 11:11
schestowitz> We can 'correct' the web by filtering it and allowing people access toAug 08 11:11
schestowitz> info without the kind of cruft that even one single "tweets" carriesAug 08 11:11
schestowitz> with it.Aug 08 11:11
schestowitzThere Google did large scale evil.  There were and are in a position toAug 08 11:11
schestowitzmove decent sites to the top of their search results.  They could haveAug 08 11:11
schestowitzput a positive weight on lean, efficient pages.  They could have put aAug 08 11:11
schestowitzpositive weight on pages without javascript.  They could have put aAug 08 11:11
schestowitzpositive weight on pages with fast loading and rendering.  But in allAug 08 11:11
schestowitzthree cases they've chosen the opposite and now the world has a mess.Aug 08 11:11
schestowitzYes, and in a small way linking helps.Aug 08 11:11
schestowitzHowever, Google is taking part in instigating a move from a simpleAug 08 11:11
schestowitzprotocol to an overly complex one with connection states managed inAug 08 11:11
schestowitzuser-space and from TCP to UDP.  That's HTTP/3.  That's their responseAug 08 11:11
schestowitzto technically bad pages and sites, not pressure to make technicallyAug 08 11:11
schestowitzgood pages.Aug 08 11:11
schestowitz"Aug 08 11:11
schestowitz> Dear Roy,Aug 08 11:22
schestowitz> Aug 08 11:22
schestowitz> I've been reading your articles of late that I've been seeing onAug 08 11:22
schestowitz> Slashdot.  Thank you for your contributions to the truth.  I now haveAug 08 11:22
schestowitz> Techrights.org bookmarked and spend considerable time visiting.Aug 08 11:22
schestowitz> Aug 08 11:22
schestowitz> Sad to say that I write you this letter as I sit at my desk in sadnessAug 08 11:22
schestowitz> and disbelief.   You see,  many years ago I got my first issue of LinuxAug 08 11:22
schestowitz> Journal at a news stand.   Back then there was no electronic version,Aug 08 11:22
schestowitz> just good old fashioned printed paper.  My how things have changed.Aug 08 11:23
schestowitz> Aug 08 11:23
schestowitz> Jump to the present and with all the efforts to (in my humble opinion)Aug 08 11:23
schestowitz> undermine the credibility /sanctity of FOSS/Linux by Microsoft and it'sAug 08 11:23
schestowitz> allies I just received notice that Linux Journal is closing its doorsAug 08 11:23
schestowitz> for good !  This is so sad and I wonder how I'll keep up with all thingsAug 08 11:23
schestowitz> FOSS/Linux.. Aug 08 11:23
schestowitz> Aug 08 11:23
schestowitz> Perhaps you can write an obituary for our old friend  ?  Anyway justAug 08 11:23
schestowitz> wanted to alert you to this tragedy. Aug 08 11:23
schestowitz> Aug 08 11:23
schestowitz> Thank you for your perseverance and dogged determination regarding theAug 08 11:23
schestowitz> future of FOSS and Linux.  You are a real trooper.Aug 08 11:23
schestowitz> Aug 08 11:23
schestowitz> Sincerely, Aug 08 11:23
schestowitz> Aug 08 11:23
schestowitz> ssssAug 08 11:23
schestowitz> (From the hills above Hollywood)Aug 08 11:23
schestowitzme:Aug 08 11:30
schestowitz"Aug 08 11:30
schestowitzThank you.Aug 08 11:30
schestowitzI will write about this now.Aug 08 11:30
schestowitz"Aug 08 11:30
schestowitzYou read it here firstAug 08 11:30
schestowitzI am doing a post about itAug 08 11:30
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schestowitzMrGreenFriend:  LJ has just diedAug 08 13:03
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/07/25/bf60092dc2622e06.jpgAug 08 14:38
scientes⍎'⎕',∊N⍴⊂S←'←⎕←(3=T)∨M∧2=T←⊃+/(V⌽¨⊂M),(V⊖¨⊂M),(V,⌽V)⌽¨(V,V←1 ¯1)⊖¨⊂M'Aug 08 14:57
scientesthat is a serious programming language!Aug 08 14:57
MinceR:>Aug 08 14:58
scienteshttps://www.ioccc.org/2018/hou/prog.orig.cAug 08 15:07
scientesIts so great, because it has doxygen documentationAug 08 15:07
MinceRlolAug 08 15:09
schestowitzbas paste?Aug 08 15:10
schestowitz*bad paste?Aug 08 15:10
MinceRno, just APLAug 08 15:10
MinceRjustaplthingsAug 08 15:10
MinceRstill more readable than cobolAug 08 15:10
schestowitzah, I needed to change fontsAug 08 15:10
MinceR:)Aug 08 15:10
schestowitztiny, size 9Aug 08 15:11
*psydroid shudders at the realisation that he passes the EPO office almost every day during semester and that it is such an evil institutionAug 08 15:14
schestowitzeven their staff hate itAug 08 15:14
schestowitzask them :-)Aug 08 15:15
psydroidI met one at a meetup a few years ago, I didn't know there were so many of them at this location :)Aug 08 15:15
psydroidI've also just finished reading the guest article, I like to think I have been working on a contingency plan in case things really go haywireAug 08 15:21
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: Python Bytes, Bad Voltage, Choose Linux, BSD Nowhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126747 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7a0d1b4d-ea3b-4e69-a0dc-8b6c3e469eb6]Aug 08 16:37
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS Is Out with Linux Kernel 5.0 from Ubuntu 19.04, Download Now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126749 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0db5ca69-d475-4cf5-93b1-2d6f8d7b6f11]Aug 08 16:51
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Patches, KDE and CNCF Audit http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126751 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8e3a5313-cf9a-43d2-9e6a-03d56e6f27e1]Aug 08 16:58
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/07/25/0b9432e6fbbbdd53.jpgAug 08 17:25
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MinceRhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBdWNd5WsAAT-sU?format=jpg&name=origAug 08 19:06
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/06/04/e9dde28f07b4d2d3.jpgAug 08 19:19
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/AMx0jYV.jpgAug 08 20:23
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MrGreenFriendd MrGreenFriend:  LJ has just died"  Yeh, i saw that. sadAug 08 20:47
MinceRlivejournal?Aug 08 20:53
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19070114Aug 08 20:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 08 20:53
MrGreenFrienddMinceR,  https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-journal-ceases-publication-awkward-goodbyeAug 08 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | Linux Journal Ceases Publication: An Awkward Goodbye | Linux JournalAug 08 20:56
MinceRicAug 08 20:56
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19063048Aug 08 21:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 08 21:21
XRevan86And that's why schools should stick to prominent figures who are dead – they don't have a say in this.Aug 08 21:23
MinceRor maybe teachers should get the sticks up their asses surgically removedAug 08 21:23
MinceRhttps://full.pr0gramm.com/2019/06/04/134cda04a09fe9a3.jpgAug 08 22:05
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1906308Aug 08 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 08 22:33
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/RbMc8HN.mp4Aug 08 22:55
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19062951Aug 08 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 08 23:40
scientes"Aug 08 23:54
scientesIf you are based in the US, please kindly note we currently do not litigate individual claims in the US, but we are working on it and we will keep you updated. We have tried over and over again to address the claims people have with Airbnb's HQ in San Francisco, but they keep stalling communication with us."Aug 08 23:54
scientesThere is no law in the USAug 08 23:54
superkuhCorrect. There are multiple sets of law in the US.Aug 08 23:56

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