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MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19072976 | Sep 08 00:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Sep 08 00:50 | |
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: How to design a status icon library in 2019 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127864 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3d1da885-171a-43ad-af79-b7fd0d351693] | Sep 08 01:30 | |
scientes | MinceR, lol | Sep 08 01:32 |
scientes | "like" a virgin | Sep 08 01:33 |
scientes | ewwww | Sep 08 01:33 |
scientes | I got free McDonalds if I paid for deliver (<$1) | Sep 08 01:34 |
scientes | but it was horrible | Sep 08 01:34 |
scientes | I don't get why people eat this shit | Sep 08 01:34 |
scientes | also, this isn't an economy | Sep 08 01:34 |
scientes | its rich ass-holes that kiss-ass to the US getting everybody else to be their slaves and do stupid shit for them | Sep 08 01:34 |
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127866 [https://pleroma.site/objects/47f8c33f-93ef-4942-8c2b-9156264b1f6e] | Sep 08 01:45 | |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux 5.4 Bringing New Driver To Help SGI Systems Going Back To The SGI Origin http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127867 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d92809a6-4165-41cf-b0ba-606acee3c4b4] | Sep 08 02:09 | |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Haiku monthly activity report - 08/2019 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127868 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5e98202c-8e84-4c2c-abc0-56888a6e00e2] | Sep 08 02:12 | |
MinceR | like a surgeon! | Sep 08 02:18 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: MoviePass, Exim and SSH Applications http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127869 [https://pleroma.site/objects/34d73b01-e00f-4712-a99b-bf31d09d96cf] | Sep 08 02:21 | |
DaemonFC[m] | I like McDonalds. You just have to know what to get. | Sep 08 03:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | I don't like the chicken nuggets. | Sep 08 03:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | For breakfast, I mainly like the steak, egg, and cheese mcgriddle with the hashbrowns and coffee. | Sep 08 03:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | I mostly get the Big Mac and fries if it's lunch. | Sep 08 03:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | As far as junk food goes, Rallys/Checkers is better. | Sep 08 03:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | And I'm fond of White Castle too. | Sep 08 03:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | For fast food pizza, it's Papa Johns or Little Caesars. Pizza Hut used to be okay, but the last one I had there was under-baked and greasy and flavorless. | Sep 08 03:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Little Caesars is better than any $5 large pizza has any business being and I dip it in the cheesy jalapeno dip. | Sep 08 03:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | I eat Subway quite a bit. | Sep 08 03:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | When I lived in Huntington, Burger King and McDonalds were next to each other, so I got a Whopper with cheese and then drove over to McDonalds for fries and a Coke. | Sep 08 03:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | Wendys is better than either of them | Sep 08 03:20 |
DaemonFC[m] | French fries turn into packing peanuts if you wait too long. | Sep 08 03:21 |
DaemonFC[m] | I don't know why the media is still saying "millenials ruining this or that". | Sep 08 03:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | Like Friskies cat food was a sacred institution. | Sep 08 03:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | And aren't we like pushing 40 now? Aren't we the largest living generation of Americans? | Sep 08 03:22 |
MinceR | the people saying/writing such things are not millennials | Sep 08 03:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | Uh, when exactly do we seize control of the media and make these Capitalist pigdogs pay for their crimes? | Sep 08 03:23 |
MinceR | and like most people, the only person they care about is themselves | Sep 08 03:23 |
MinceR | or maybe not even themselves | Sep 08 03:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | Shitty young people turn into shitty old people. | Sep 08 03:23 |
MinceR | exactly | Sep 08 03:23 |
MinceR | and most humans are shitty people | Sep 08 03:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | Maddox was making a point of that. | Sep 08 03:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | But he forgot the most egregious offense. | Sep 08 03:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | 55+ "Senior" apartments. | Sep 08 03:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | They give out nice discounted apartments to you just for turning 55. | Sep 08 03:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | Whitey Bulger would have gotten one if he had managed to stay in hiding. | Sep 08 03:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | 55+ doesn't keep criminals out. You want to keep criminals out, then do a background check for felonies and weapons convictions. | Sep 08 03:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Some of them are 55+ or disabled. | Sep 08 03:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | I lived in one for a while and most of the neighbors were pretty okay. | Sep 08 03:25 |
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DaemonFC[m] | It is true, I suppose, that people in their 80s and 90s aren't blasting their stereo. | Sep 08 03:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | But I like peace and quiet too. | Sep 08 03:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | Nobody ever asked. They were concerned when they saw me there because they thought there goes the neighborhood. | Sep 08 03:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | I think that is discrimination. | Sep 08 03:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's like seing a black family moving in and you're like "Oh fuck, hide the valuables.". | Sep 08 03:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's what it feels like when you try to move into an apartment complex with senior citizens as a man in your 30s, only the black person is you. | Sep 08 03:28 |
MinceR | people are good at finding reasons to hate each other | Sep 08 03:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | Everyone stereotypes. It's faster to sort out the world that way but it's not highly accurate. | Sep 08 03:28 |
MinceR | also to gang up on someone else | Sep 08 03:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, like are they gay and what economic system do they prefer to live under. | Sep 08 03:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | Tribalism. | Sep 08 03:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | How is any of this affecting you in another state? That's why we have states. | Sep 08 03:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | You do you. | Sep 08 03:29 |
MinceR | i'd rather not have a state | Sep 08 03:29 |
MinceR | it's failing at everything they told me a state is for | Sep 08 03:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | Hungary is pretty small. I'm sure that the central government is kind of top down. | Sep 08 03:30 |
MinceR | and this is what states are doing all over the planet | Sep 08 03:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | Even Canada doesn't give its provinces much authority. | Sep 08 03:30 |
MinceR | well yeah, "viktor decides everything" is top down | Sep 08 03:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | There's no concept of shared sovereignty. It's "devolved", as in, you'll take whatever you get. | Sep 08 03:30 |
MinceR | all the "western democracies" we were told to look up are collapsing | Sep 08 03:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's impossible for Canada to have a national debate about things like we can here. | Sep 08 03:31 |
MinceR | neofascists are taking over | Sep 08 03:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | The federal government had to legalize pot and same sex marriage. The provinces couldn't do that and see how it went. | Sep 08 03:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | Canada does play a good game at seeming progressive and friendly. | Sep 08 03:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | But they don't like immigrants. | Sep 08 03:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | They're a lot nastier and less tolerant about it than we are. | Sep 08 03:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | Even under Trump. | Sep 08 03:32 |
MinceR | they had a harper | Sep 08 03:32 |
MinceR | and another one is coming up, it seems | Sep 08 03:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | If you come stay in Canada illegally, you will "self deport" if they don't get to you first. | Sep 08 03:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's impossible to do anything there without a social insurance number and if you try, they'll report you. | Sep 08 03:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | You noticed that illegal immigrants who are afraid of Trump who try to go to Canada don't end up getting residency there either. | Sep 08 03:33 |
MinceR | maybe usian businesses can do more with illegal immigrants and are thus more motivated to have them? | Sep 08 03:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | They'll take them in long enough to deport them from Canada. | Sep 08 03:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Yeah, the fines for being caught hiring illegals here are a joke. | Sep 08 03:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | You just steal someone's identity and get a job with it and work there for a while. | Sep 08 03:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | If the place gets raided, they'll be shocked, shocked, to find illegals in this establishment. | Sep 08 03:34 |
MinceR | or maybe it's just easier to immigrate to canada legally | Sep 08 03:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | There's also plenty of employers who produce fake documents. | Sep 08 03:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | They pocket all of the "taxes". | Sep 08 03:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | The government isn't even aware that they work there because it's like money laundering, only with people. | Sep 08 03:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | Some Americans do it too. | Sep 08 03:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | Like, if you have a felony warrant out, but you know a guy who can get you an ID. | Sep 08 03:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | So you skip out on the state and live as someone else. | Sep 08 03:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | Still happens. | Sep 08 03:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | Like, the warrant doesn't go away, and you're facing 30 years if they find you. | Sep 08 03:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | What the hell? | Sep 08 03:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | The thing about ducking a warrant is that some people have been very successful at it. | Sep 08 03:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | If they ever do get caught, if it's 30-40 years from now, the state's underlying case might not even hold up anymore. | Sep 08 03:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | Eyewitnesses might be dead. Evidence might have been lost or chain of custody not followed. | Sep 08 03:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | I mean, here's an example, MinceR Lake County, IL. | Sep 08 03:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | 15,573 outstanding warrants this morning. | Sep 08 03:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | Some go back into the 1980s even. | Sep 08 03:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | How does the state proceed with a DUI from 1987 if it finds you now? | Sep 08 03:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | You have the right to confront witnesses. | Sep 08 03:38 |
MinceR | they hope you don't know your rights | Sep 08 03:39 |
MinceR | also, extremely slowly | Sep 08 03:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | If the cop who pulled you over is in a nursing home with Alzheimer's, the fact that they may still have a police report doesn't matter. | Sep 08 03:39 |
MinceR | and they'll try to screw you even if they know they don't have a case | Sep 08 03:39 |
MinceR | because they're the state, and that's what states do | Sep 08 03:39 |
MinceR | the "social contract" is a big fucking scam | Sep 08 03:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Yeah, I ended up setling for a Disorderly Conduct because by the time we could ever get to court on the twwo aggravated assault with weapons charges, I'd have been off probation for this anyway! | Sep 08 03:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's how they get you. | Sep 08 03:40 |
MinceR | and then their statistics will show it was worth bothering you | Sep 08 03:40 |
MinceR | because they did find something after all | Sep 08 03:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | The state gets their conviction because you realize that the original charges are much worse and a few months waiting out your probation is time you'd spend on bail waiting for a trial that might go very south. | Sep 08 03:41 |
MinceR | and they'll spend more of your money on doing this sort of bullshit | Sep 08 03:41 |
MinceR | the tumor grows | Sep 08 03:41 |
MinceR | and the people worship the tumor | Sep 08 03:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Bench trials are a big mistake. Big mistake. | Sep 08 03:41 |
MinceR | which kind is that? | Sep 08 03:42 |
MinceR | ah, trial by judge | Sep 08 03:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | In St. Claire county, IL, 68 people went to a trial before a judge in May this year. | Sep 08 03:42 |
MinceR | well, trial by jury is a big mistake too | Sep 08 03:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | 67 of them were convicted. | Sep 08 03:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | At least with a jury, the state has to convince 12 people instead of a judge. | Sep 08 03:42 |
MinceR | one shouldn't expect anything good from a court system when there is no rule of law | Sep 08 03:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | Still bad, but at least there's a chance. | Sep 08 03:43 |
MinceR | and rule of law is a very rare thing nowadays | Sep 08 03:43 |
MinceR | yeah, but those 12 people tend to care even less, somehow | Sep 08 03:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | No, the probation officer asked what I thought of crime in general. | Sep 08 03:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | I said the police have no control over Waukegan, Lake County, or Illinois. | Sep 08 03:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | But they bother me over this crap. | Sep 08 03:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | If you go outside you'll see 20 crimes before you get where you're going, and 20 more on the way back home. | Sep 08 03:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | No cops. | Sep 08 03:44 |
MinceR | the police also has no control over microsoft | Sep 08 03:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | Or if there are cops, giving someone a speeding ticket. | Sep 08 03:44 |
MinceR | or over the state | Sep 08 03:44 |
MinceR | but hey, at least they have control over you | Sep 08 03:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | She asked if I had any contact with the police. | Sep 08 03:44 |
MinceR | they have a tiny bit of power which helps them get off | Sep 08 03:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | I told her "No, in fact, I saw one on the sidewalk, so I crossed the street and walked down the block, and then crossed the street again.". | Sep 08 03:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | "I probably wouldn't even call them if I was the victim of a crime unless I needed paperwork to show my insurance company.". | Sep 08 03:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | The police don't solve crimes. They commit more, as agents of the government. | Sep 08 03:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | People talk to the police when they're under arrest because they think the police are the good guys. | Sep 08 03:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | They think if they just talk to the cops, they can clear this whole thing up at the police station and then go home and crawl into bed. | Sep 08 03:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | The charges are coming. Whether you do any more damage to your case while you're in there waiting on your citations and bail documents is entirely up to you. | Sep 08 03:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | "Covering your face during the commission of a crime." is a crime. | Sep 08 03:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | Hmm, I wonder if that applies to those cops that wear ski masks and no name tag. | Sep 08 03:49 |
MinceR | they surely have an excuse | Sep 08 03:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | They have an excuse. | Sep 08 03:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | And don't call me Shirley. | Sep 08 03:50 |
MinceR | :> | Sep 08 03:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://lawofficer.com/archive/life-on-the-installment-plan/ | Sep 08 03:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lawofficer.com | Life on the Installment Plan - Law Officer | Sep 08 03:55 | |
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/AYOkejUsfRJHlORLpAWaQSAV > | Sep 08 03:56 | |
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/iLPnazYEveMQKCKtHRaDVULD > | Sep 08 04:01 | |
DaemonFC[m] | It sounds like the police have excessive resources to use if they can go out and be bothered to deal with someone whose only offense is taking a leak in someone's bushes 1,332 times. | Sep 08 04:01 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: But what do I know> | Sep 08 04:01 |
DaemonFC[m] | I mean, it's disgusting and it's offensive, but it's more disgusting and offensive that so many people are like this because the system does nothing to make sure that they have a house to live in and some medication and food. | Sep 08 04:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | Like, few people just give up on life because they have it so good. | Sep 08 04:03 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I remember watching a news story on TV with my ex, Michael, back in like 2002 or something. | Sep 08 14:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | Kansas passed a law that said that if you had a child you didn't want, you could drop them off at a fire or police station, no questions asked. It was intended to avoid women giving birth and leaving the baby in a trash can or a restroom stall or something. | Sep 08 14:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | Only, the state legislature forgot to define what a "child" meant. | Sep 08 14:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | For the next 3 weeks, until the governor could call an emergency session, people from all over the country were leaving their kids of all ages at police and fire stations in Kansas. | Sep 08 14:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | The news interviewed a woman from Florida who left her 17 year old there. | Sep 08 14:51 |
MinceR | https://www.lainchan.org/%CE%BB/src/1567005915039-0.jpg | Sep 08 14:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | The state couldn't stop them since that was the law. | Sep 08 14:52 |
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schestowitz | MinceR: wow, greek symbols in URL? | Sep 08 14:57 |
MinceR | yeah | Sep 08 14:58 |
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schestowitz | I know it's done with escape sequences, but this one is clever | Sep 08 15:12 |
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MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/06/24/07fffd6055641697.jpg | Sep 08 16:59 |
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schestowitz | lol | Sep 08 17:28 |
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schestowitz | Re: Gates and Epstein> It really makes me wonder what Bill Gates needed from Epstein. It’s not like he needs Epstein to give his money away or needed his plane to get around. | Sep 08 17:49 |
schestowitz | --techrights reader | Sep 08 17:49 |
MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1907299 | Sep 08 18:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Sep 08 18:55 | |
DaemonFC[m] | Epstein was very obviously murdered in his prison cell. | Sep 08 18:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | I mean, Jesus. How much more obvious could it get. | Sep 08 18:55 |
schestowitz | they forged visitors' log | Sep 08 18:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | Guards walked away for a few minutes. Security cameras malfunction at exactly the same time... | Sep 08 18:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | Autopsy shows signs of struggle. | Sep 08 18:55 |
schestowitz | that right there doesn't sit right | Sep 08 18:56 |
schestowitz | maybe assisted suicide | Sep 08 18:56 |
schestowitz | https://www.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-connections-jeffrey-epstein-mit-donations-ronan-farrow-2019-9?r=US&IR=T | Sep 08 18:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | All of the connections between Bill Gates, MIT, and Jeffrey Epstein - Business Insider | Sep 08 18:56 | |
schestowitz | https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9765834/bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein-lolita-express/ | Sep 08 18:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thesun.co.uk | Bill Gates refuses to explain why he went on Jeffrey Epstein’s notorious ‘Lolita Express’ plane four years AFTER the paedo was released from prison | Sep 08 18:57 | |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/08/16/bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein/ | Sep 08 18:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill Gates and His Special Relationship With Jeffrey Epstein Still Stirring Speculations | Techrights | Sep 08 18:57 | |
schestowitz | older: http://techrights.org/2015/01/03/prison-and-gates/ | Sep 08 18:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Thousands of Child Rape Photos Traded Out of Bill Gates’ Mansion | Techrights | Sep 08 18:58 | |
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MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19072852 | Sep 08 20:22 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Trump's negotiated surrender to the Taliban was delayed because they couldn't wait to do another suicide bombing. | Sep 08 20:39 |
*XRevan86 so far hasn't voted for anyone who won. | Sep 08 20:40 | |
DaemonFC[m] | Is there anything Trump does that isn't a national disgrace? Remember when the Republicans said Obama was making an "apology tour"? Trump got caught with his pants down by the bombing, which killed 12 people, including an American soldier, while he was inviting the enemy over to Camp David. | Sep 08 20:40 |
XRevan86 | scientes: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2019/09/07/shut-up-and-trust-them have you seen this? | Sep 08 21:02 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Sep 08 21:02 | |
scientes | XRevan86, but every formal democracy always quickly devolves into a kleptocracy where a few people fleece everybody else | Sep 08 21:02 |
scientes | I've now seen democracy, and it is the private buses in South America | Sep 08 21:03 |
scientes | anybody can go on those buses and busk or peddle crappy industrial goods | Sep 08 21:03 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Should I just sit and enjoy the kleptocracy then? | Sep 08 21:04 |
scientes | those swine bankers know this, which is why they try to replace it with super expensive public systems in Panama City and Lima | Sep 08 21:04 |
scientes | Well its the discussion that makes the difference | Sep 08 21:06 |
scientes | always has been | Sep 08 21:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | Manjaro is going corporate, apparently. | Sep 08 21:08 |
scientes | The US has wanted public health-care for over 100 years | Sep 08 21:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | I wonder what this means for companies like Canonical. They still don't make a profit, do they? | Sep 08 21:08 |
scientes | and it hasn't happened | Sep 08 21:08 |
scientes | instead you just get more and more corruption | Sep 08 21:08 |
scientes | you have to take away the credit card from the US first | Sep 08 21:09 |
scientes | the US defunded the pensions by faking interest numbers for 40 years now | Sep 08 21:14 |
scientes | *faking inflation numbers | Sep 08 21:14 |
scientes | inflation has been steady at like 12% per year | Sep 08 21:14 |
scientes | its quite high | Sep 08 21:14 |
scientes | I much prefer a government that is at least honest about reducing pensions | Sep 08 21:15 |
MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19072655 | Sep 08 21:16 |
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scientes | but seriously, if you have time for formal democracy you must be corrupt, because you won't have time to start a real business | Sep 08 21:20 |
scientes | formal democracy is generally just a giant waste of everyone's time | Sep 08 21:20 |
scientes | and it is also very successful at deflecting responsibility | Sep 08 21:21 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I might get another $15 a month next year. | Sep 08 21:33 |
XRevan86 | A few days ago the Ukrainian Rada passed a law that undoes the senator immunity. | Sep 08 21:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Republicans wanted Chained CPI, but gave up on it because the C-CPI figures have been so close to the CPI-W anyway recently. | Sep 08 21:34 |
XRevan86 | for voting for any law | Sep 08 21:34 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Would that work? | Sep 08 21:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | The C-CPI eliminates any pretense in being concerned about what it takes to keep the same living standard. | Sep 08 21:35 |
scientes | DaemonFC[m], neither have anything to do with inflation | Sep 08 21:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | If steak gets too expensive, people might buy hamburger. If hamburger gets too expensive, they may buy chicken. If chicken gets too expensive, they might buy Alpo dog food. | Sep 08 21:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | Anything to cheat people out of their Social Security money. -Republicans. | Sep 08 21:36 |
scientes | DaemonFC[m], its the government | Sep 08 21:36 |
scientes | stop thinking that voting makes any difference at all | Sep 08 21:36 |
scientes | or that it matters who is president | Sep 08 21:36 |
scientes | XRevan86, immunity from what? | Sep 08 21:37 |
scientes | AIDS? | Sep 08 21:37 |
XRevan86 | scientes: One can be held accountable for voting choices in Rada. | Sep 08 21:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | There's an alternative when health care gets too expensive. Don't get sick. And if you get sick, PLEASE DIE QUICKLY. -Republicans | Sep 08 21:37 |
scientes | XRevan86, by who? The corrupt ICC? | Sep 08 21:37 |
scientes | DaemonFC[m], but that what all those rich ass-hole feel | Sep 08 21:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | The government developed most of the HIV drugs with tax money, sold them below what the research cost, and let private corporations tell people $3,000 a month to live -or else-. | Sep 08 21:38 |
scientes | and they are actively doing it with the exorbident costs of insulin | Sep 08 21:39 |
scientes | its a racket | Sep 08 21:39 |
scientes | ugggh, all these IDEs are too smart about git conflicts now | Sep 08 21:45 |
scientes | I can't figure out what is going on | Sep 08 21:45 |
scientes | and have to open a stupid editor | Sep 08 21:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | The insulin people are punks on the playground compared to the companies that shake down HIV patients. | Sep 08 21:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | You are right, that it is an outrage either way. | Sep 08 21:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | It cost $16,000 a year to treat bipolar disorder before the patents expired on my meds. | Sep 08 21:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | The only reason my meds were available was because of Medicare. | Sep 08 21:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | I got the receipt showing how much Medicare paid for my meds and I felt awful about it. Then I remembered that federal law says Medicare can't negotiate for a better price even if they want to. | Sep 08 21:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | The same drugs are bought by the VA, another government program, for half the price, and the Medicaid program was paying 40% what Medicare was. | Sep 08 21:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | State governments have smaller budgets and they can't simply just go around printing up money and handing it out, so since they share half the cost to run Medicaid programs, they have an incentive to play hardball with the cost of health care. | Sep 08 21:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | There is an incentive to the states to make more people eligible for Medicaid. | Sep 08 21:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | They get dollar for dollar matching from the federal government for most programs, and only have to come up with 10 cents on the dollar for ACA Medicaid programs. | Sep 08 21:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | So if they expand access, more federal money flows in and their state does better. | Sep 08 21:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | Even though the federal government pays 90 cents on the dollar to expand Medicaid to ACA adults and to children, states like Indiana leave a lot of that money on the table because they say giving people access to health care is a "moral hazard". Those fucking "takers", those "useless eaters" will get their insulin. How awful. | Sep 08 21:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | Since the government can do anything it wants (ask anyone who has ever owed money to the IRS or gotten in trouble with the police over something stupid), it could simply pass a law that says "We are paying x amount for insulin so we can give it to people who can't afford it. Hand it over.". But they won't. | Sep 08 21:54 |
DaemonFC[m] | I'm not saying make the company turn it over for free. Let them make a fair profit. But charging what they do at retail is just turning sick people upside down and shaking them out because they know they'll die. It's completely uncoupled from how you should price a car or a cell phone. | Sep 08 21:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | Nobody dies without a cell phone, and there's one for every budget because if you think $1,500 for an iPhone is excessive, you can go find an Android model for $150. | Sep 08 21:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | The price for health care is "Stand and deliver!". | Sep 08 21:57 |
scientes | DaemonFC[m], also if a doctor proscribes the brand-name, the pharmacy is not allowed to sell your the generic | Sep 08 21:59 |
scientes | the US is just a giant phonzi scheme | Sep 08 22:00 |
scientes | shut the damn thing down! | Sep 08 22:00 |
scientes | https://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2019/01/shut-it-all-down.html | Sep 08 22:05 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cluborlov.blogspot.com | ClubOrlov: Shut it all down! | Sep 08 22:05 | |
*psydroid wonders if anyone in the US ever wonders if and when the country is going to collapse | Sep 08 22:11 | |
scientes | psydroid, that is what Dmitry Orlov above writes about | Sep 08 22:11 |
scientes | psydroid, https://www.resilience.org/stories/2006-12-04/closing-collapse-gap-ussr-was-better-prepared-collapse-us/ | Sep 08 22:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.resilience.org | Closing the 'Collapse Gap': the USSR was better prepared for collapse than the US - Resilience | Sep 08 22:11 | |
scientes | Europe will collapse too | Sep 08 22:11 |
scientes | I mean, Italy is 25% smaller economy this century | Sep 08 22:11 |
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psydroid | yes, I know | Sep 08 22:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | scientes: Few doctors sign a prescription "Dispense as Written". | Sep 08 22:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | They can, but I've never seen one insist on it. Some of them do prescribe an expensive brand that has no generic and sign "May substitute", when an older drug that treats the same condition is available as a generic. | Sep 08 22:25 |
scientes | DaemonFC[m], in many countries you don't need those stupid things except for the adictive stuff | Sep 08 22:25 |
scientes | like I had a doctor give me a prosciption for swimmers ear | Sep 08 22:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | I have had that happen. The doctor's office that did it to me prescribed the older drug when I went back and was mad that it cost $300 for the newer one and $20 for the old one. | Sep 08 22:25 |
scientes | i read the damn ingredients and it was fucking vinegar! | Sep 08 22:25 |
scientes | I don't think Dante put doctors in hell, but the doctors in the US certainly deserve it | Sep 08 22:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yes, they can also prescribe "prescription strength ibuprofen", which is just 800 mg of ibuprofen. | Sep 08 22:26 |
scientes | all the doctors that have ever proscribes such shit should be rounded up and but on a boat | Sep 08 22:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | You could take 4 200 mg ibuprofin for a slight sprain and save yourself a trip to the doctor. | Sep 08 22:26 |
scientes | its not one extra trip | Sep 08 22:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | They don't like people knowing that because if you go to the doctor they'll probably send you to get ibuprofen and then bill you $300 for asking them about it. | Sep 08 22:27 |
scientes | its that the "doctors" (lets just call them pigs) want you to have to make a trip to the pharmacy too | Sep 08 22:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | In the ER, they tried to bill Medicare $25 for one ibuprofen tablet one time. | Sep 08 22:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | Medicare declined it and made them write it off. | Sep 08 22:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | I thought that was funny. | Sep 08 22:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's bill cramming. | Sep 08 22:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's nothing new. | Sep 08 22:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | Ibuprofen costs like, nothing. | Sep 08 22:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | But when they give it to you during your $15,000 ER visit, it's just one more thing they can stick you for. So they do. | Sep 08 22:29 |
scientes | costs more than asprin | Sep 08 22:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | I prefer ibuprofen. | Sep 08 22:29 |
scientes | medicare should sell a service where you can send your private bill to medicare | Sep 08 22:29 |
scientes | and then only pay what medicare would pay | Sep 08 22:29 |
scientes | they could made oodles of money | Sep 08 22:29 |
scientes | it would be very popular | Sep 08 22:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | acetaminophen is dangerous and would never be approved today. | Sep 08 22:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | (Tylenol) | Sep 08 22:29 |
scientes | DaemonFC[m], it was discovered at NIMH or NIH | Sep 08 22:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Tylenol Murders (where someone poisoned bottles of Tylenol in the 1980s) killed a few people. | Sep 08 22:30 |
scientes | (forget which) | Sep 08 22:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | But thousands have died because of Tylenol itself since then. | Sep 08 22:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | It doesn't make the news. | Sep 08 22:30 |
scientes | not nearly as bad as the super bugs | Sep 08 22:31 |
scientes | turns out hospitals are really good at killing people | Sep 08 22:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/03/26/acetaminophen-overdose.aspx | Sep 08 22:31 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-articles.mercola.com | Acetaminophen: More Dangerous Than You Ever Suspected | Sep 08 22:31 | |
scientes | probably better than treating them | Sep 08 22:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | I don't really like Mercola because he is a quack. | Sep 08 22:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | But his figures are pretty accurate when it comes to Tylenol. | Sep 08 22:31 |
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XRevan86 | scientes: that stupid formal democracy in action: https://twitter.com/teamnavalny_spb/status/1170815067576659970 | Sep 08 23:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@teamnavalny_spb: УИК №309, продолжение истории. Поздно ночью начался подсчёт голосов, председатель комиссии при помощи полицейского… https://t.co/vVKXVkZNPs | Sep 08 23:26 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@teamnavalny_spb: УИК №309, продолжение истории. Поздно ночью начался подсчёт голосов, председатель комиссии при помощи полицейского… https://t.co/vVKXVkZNPs | Sep 08 23:26 | |
XRevan86 | https://i.postimg.cc/g0C1tGQ7/observing-spb-309.png there's something… charming about this | Sep 08 23:28 |
scientes | oh geze | Sep 08 23:28 |
scientes | I have heard such things about Russia before | Sep 08 23:29 |
scientes | from credible sources | Sep 08 23:29 |
XRevan86 | It's no secret to anybody, yes. | Sep 08 23:32 |
XRevan86 | Except for United Russia representatives, who will deny any fraud took place. Not to a significant extent anyway. | Sep 08 23:33 |
XRevan86 | minor misconduct happens everywhere | Sep 08 23:33 |
scientes | any use of electronic voting is not "minor misconduct" | Sep 08 23:34 |
scientes | it invalidates the entire charade | Sep 08 23:34 |
XRevan86 | it definitely makes the charade cheaper | Sep 08 23:34 |
XRevan86 | If Russia moves to electronic voting completely, we won't be getting videos like these anymore. | Sep 08 23:35 |
XRevan86 | You vote, you wait for the results, United Russia won, try next time. | Sep 08 23:36 |
MinceR | what about electronic tallying of votes? | Sep 08 23:36 |
MinceR | that's what they're doing in hungary, afaik | Sep 08 23:36 |
scientes | XRevan86, the best part about "try next time" is that you can make the races really close with no chance of losing | Sep 08 23:37 |
MinceR | but the twist is that recently orban's front man gained control of both corporations that do it, iirc | Sep 08 23:37 |
scientes | the US is like that | Sep 08 23:37 |
scientes | they always manage it so that there are no landslides (unless you count those that didn't vote as a vote of no confidence...) | Sep 08 23:37 |
XRevan86 | The elections will look like electronic versions of one-handed bandits | Sep 08 23:37 |
scientes | MinceR, I've heard that name, but I really don't give a shit | Sep 08 23:38 |
scientes | the bobble-heads can keep bobble-heading | Sep 08 23:38 |
XRevan86 | pull the lever, the algorithm will determine whether you won and display the result %) | Sep 08 23:38 |
scientes | XRevan86, just needs more colors and sounds | Sep 08 23:38 |
scientes | and some alcohol and tobacco | Sep 08 23:39 |
scientes | and better cover bands | Sep 08 23:39 |
XRevan86 | "what about electronic tallying of votes?" | Sep 08 23:39 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: What does that mean? | Sep 08 23:39 |
scientes | "what about electronic fabricating of votes?" FTFY | Sep 08 23:40 |
XRevan86 | That's what we're discussing | Sep 08 23:40 |
XRevan86 | no loose ends | Sep 08 23:40 |
MinceR | :> | Sep 08 23:40 |
MinceR | https://hungarianspectrum.org/2019/07/13/fidesz-now-has-another-way-to-rig-elections-the-sale-of-t-systems-to-4ig/ | Sep 08 23:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hungarianspectrum.org | Fidesz now has another way to rig elections: the sale of T-Systems to 4iG – Hungarian Spectrum | Sep 08 23:41 | |
MinceR | https://index.hu/english/2019/07/12/deutsche_telekom_hungary_acquisition_t-systems_4ig_gellert_jaszai_lorinc_meszaros_it_solutions/ | Sep 08 23:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-index.hu | Index - In English - Circles close to Fidesz to acquire Deutsche Telekom subsidiary T-Systems | Sep 08 23:43 | |
XRevan86 | "what if we take the people's love of "progress" in a form of black boxes full of magic and commit crimes using that?" | Sep 08 23:43 |
XRevan86 | Hipsters don't verify data inputted into JavaScript, why should we when we decide fate of the country? | Sep 08 23:45 |
MinceR | and the other corporation involved is idomsoft >> https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/breaking-fresh-evidence-hungary-vote-rigging-raises-concerns-fraud-european-elections/ | Sep 08 23:46 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.opendemocracy.net | Fresh evidence of Hungary vote-rigging raises concerns of fraud in European elections | openDemocracy | Sep 08 23:46 |
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