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scientesXRevan86, thanks for this http://existentialcomics.com/philosopher/PlatoFeb 09 00:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | Plato - Existential ComicsFeb 09 00:02
XRevan86scientes: MinceR is the one who exposed me to this comicstrip %).Feb 09 00:03
MinceR:)Feb 09 00:03
MinceRhttps://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/24/bd17ea34b4d2f3e9.jpgFeb 09 00:04
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/133845 #howto #gnu #linux #unix [https://pleroma.site/objects/e83f7610-2e1b-4014-9fbc-7ece0e2c00e4]Feb 09 00:29
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/24/98d22ce379ca6af5.jpgFeb 09 00:32
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cubexyzthe mind-numbing effects of M$, everyone's brain thinks in terms of M$ products: notepad.exe, sol.exe, excel, twain, GDI printers, etc, etc (present company excluded)Feb 09 00:40
MinceRlolFeb 09 00:41
cubexyzalthough I think a lot of the GDI printer stuff has been figured outFeb 09 00:41
MinceRnon-postscript printers are crap anywayFeb 09 00:42
DaemonFC[m]GDI printers?Feb 09 01:04
DaemonFC[m]I don't really care how the printer works as long as it does. They're usually pretty terrible so if they work at all it's a miracle.Feb 09 01:04
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psydroidif you don't live in that bubble, it's hard to realise how they thinkFeb 09 01:12
oiaohmReally something from the samba developers is ipp printing is going to come more common from Microsoft.Feb 09 01:14
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MinceRthey think?Feb 09 01:16
oiaohmMinceR: not exactly they think.   Samba developers have seen Microsoft prototype servers and clients with SMB protocl on quic instead of TCP as well.Feb 09 01:17
MinceRi meant the people in the aforementioned bubbleFeb 09 01:18
MinceRnobody has to trust microsloth with printing, obviouslFeb 09 01:18
MinceRyFeb 09 01:18
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cubexyzprinters are terrible now yesFeb 09 01:21
cubexyzone of the reasons I'm using an old laserjetFeb 09 01:21
oiaohmI don't think it will get better with ippFeb 09 01:21
oiaohmMore firmware in the printer you are depending on doing the right things.Feb 09 01:22
cubexyzoiaohm, HP doesn't make the maintainance kits for the older laser printers so I'm buying a kit before they disappearFeb 09 01:22
DaemonFC[m]Is that what Apple calls AirPrint?Feb 09 01:23
DaemonFC[m]Debian was talking about that.Feb 09 01:23
DaemonFC[m]Apple comes up with so many bullshit bingo marketing speak terms, it's hard to tell what they actually are referring to.Feb 09 01:24
DaemonFC[m]"Bonjour" means ZeroconfFeb 09 01:30
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DaemonFC[m]"Time Capsule" is just Network Attached Storage.Feb 09 01:30
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Python #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/133846 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9b49a603-d42a-44af-a013-74156078dd1b]Feb 09 01:31
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DaemonFC[m]They ported Safari to Windows, installed a bunch of unrelated system services and iTunes even if you didn't want them. Broke Windows Vista SP2 so it couldn't boot. Then quietly abandoned Safari and Bonjour but left both installed while vulnerabilities piled up.Feb 09 01:32
DaemonFC[m]One of the vulnerabilities was a "Safari feature" that downloaded files automatically and then executed them. Just what you'd want in a web browser.Feb 09 01:33
DaemonFC[m]Mom was watching Extreme Cheapskates and one of them was grabbing drink cups and popcorn tubs out of the trash at the movies and getting them refilled. (He did rinse the cup out.)Feb 09 01:34
DaemonFC[m]She's over there biting her knuckles in terror at the idea of a germ. I'm thinking "I've had sex with internet people......and $25 for a pepsi and popcorn is a bit much.".Feb 09 01:35
MinceR09 013308 < DaemonFC[m]> One of the vulnerabilities was a "Safari feature" that downloaded files automatically and then executed them. Just what you'd want in a web browser.Feb 09 01:36
MinceRisn't that what javascript does? :>Feb 09 01:36
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: It was called the Safari Carpet Bombing AttackFeb 09 01:36
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DaemonFC[m]I have a really bad chest/sinus cold going on.Feb 09 02:00
DaemonFC[m]Hoping it doesn't turn into something worse.Feb 09 02:01
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I responded to JWZ complaining that his Mac is freezing up randomly.Feb 09 02:17
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/COEOwAukxjqItXZkdheFKNQI >Feb 09 02:17
MinceR:>Feb 09 02:17
MinceRjwz lost his mind long agoFeb 09 02:18
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/23/6299f12a3b965bf8.jpgFeb 09 02:19
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I added.Feb 09 02:29
DaemonFC[m]I'm assuming that by "thousand pound piece of shit", you're referring to a desktop Mac, but then again the Macbook from 2008 that didn't even get the Mac OS from 2012 that I just junked in favor of a Chromebook because nothing even remotely modern ran on it anymore weighed about a thousand pounds. In addition, someone incompetently "repaired" the bottom of it with the bottom plate from a PC laptop and someFeb 09 02:29
DaemonFC[m]self-tapping screws. I'm sure after dropping it and not even wanting to know what a new bottom cover from Apple cost. Feb 09 02:29
DaemonFC[m]But none of that was remotely as bad as Apple's font rendering, which looks like it was yanked from CDE in 1997.Feb 09 02:29
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Seriously, a 2008 Macbook stopped getting new OS X versions in 2011.Feb 09 02:31
DaemonFC[m]What the hell is this crap!?Feb 09 02:31
MinceRa fashion accessory for cult membersFeb 09 02:31
cubexyzonly light weight linux distros (and BSD) can run on truly old computersFeb 09 02:32
cubexyzmy definition of old is >=20 yearsFeb 09 02:32
DaemonFC[m]The bottom plate with the self tappers has got to be the computer version of pringles can and duct tape as an air intake.Feb 09 02:33
cubexyza lot of the post 2010 stuff isn't very goodFeb 09 02:33
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DaemonFC[m]It's not terribly difficult to make a product that's more robust than Apple. All you have to do is hire people who can write software. Apple doesn't have any. They blew the budget on marketing and lawyers.Feb 09 02:37
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MinceRor hire people who can design hardwareFeb 09 02:51
MinceRcrApple doesn't have those eitherFeb 09 02:51
MinceRthey don't even have people who understand how an antenna worksFeb 09 02:52
danielp3344to be fair antennas are hardFeb 09 02:54
danielp3344I don't really understand them myselfFeb 09 02:54
superkuhThe next gen of phones that try to support massive MIMO mm-wave are going to be hilarious.Feb 09 02:59
oiaohmIt does not help that antenna maths are not exactly instead a form of aproxFeb 09 02:59
superkuhMaking a single band antenna is easy. Even if it's some planar inverted F tiny thing. Making an antenna to cover 5 bands separated by more than the center freq of any of them gets rough.Feb 09 03:00
oiaohmParticular when you read the telstra ericsson that the mm-wave was not for phone but for fixed items around the tower using mobile phone network.Feb 09 03:00
superkuhYeah, it only makes sense for line of sight where you already have fiber deploys.Feb 09 03:01
superkuhSo that, or high density places like stadiums.Feb 09 03:01
oiaohmReally no it does not even make sense in stadiums.Feb 09 03:02
oiaohmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UuqxGrPsks   If you look at this coverage 5g backpack the mmwave antenna is on a tower not exactly close to the human.Feb 09 03:03
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oiaohmsuperkuh: besides I could see stadiums working out how to block high speed phones so they can sell broadcast rights.Feb 09 03:12
danielp3344lolFeb 09 03:13
DaemonFC[m]> I don't really understand them myselfFeb 09 03:14
DaemonFC[m]Plugging a coat hanger into the TV.Feb 09 03:14
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superkuhI build antennas as a hobby.Feb 09 03:15
danielp3344DaemonFC: done that :PFeb 09 03:15
danielp3344superkuh: I had a 70ft long wire in my backyard for a whileFeb 09 03:15
danielp3344that was peak antenna for meFeb 09 03:15
superkuhhttp://superkuh.com/thisurlnamehasnothingtodowiththeactualtopicijustnameditthisforkicks.htmlFeb 09 03:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-superkuh.com | Broadband/Wideband AntennaFeb 09 03:16
DaemonFC[m]I've never subscribed to cable tv.Feb 09 03:16
DaemonFC[m]What a complete waste of money and time.Feb 09 03:17
superkuhI built my dad a local channel 11 (low freq) specific dipole for HDTV last year. He's still using it so it must work.Feb 09 03:17
DaemonFC[m]If it costs $100 a month to have cable, and it's usually more than that....just $100 a month is $12,000 in 10 years.Feb 09 03:17
DaemonFC[m]Why would anyone pay that?Feb 09 03:18
DaemonFC[m]That's rent for an entire year (and then some) in Indiana.Feb 09 03:18
superkuhI paid my cable company $115 last month and I didn't even get TV.Feb 09 03:18
DaemonFC[m]Back when wifi was open or WEP, I'd just ude someone else's and laugh.Feb 09 03:19
superkuhAhhh WEP. Those were the days: http://superkuh.com/bob/bobwithbridgeoverkinniriver.jpgFeb 09 03:19
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DaemonFC[m]<superkuh "I paid my cable company $115 las"> And how has Comcast been other than that?Feb 09 03:20
superkuhThat thing ran openwrt and had all the tools for WEP cracking on it.Feb 09 03:20
superkuh70ft up a pine tree.Feb 09 03:20
superkuhHomebrew power over ethernet.Feb 09 03:20
DaemonFC[m]There's a package in Ubuntu that cracked wep.Feb 09 03:20
superkuhComcast is Comcast. it's not great. But I have been running a webserver from home with them for almost two decades. So that's cool.Feb 09 03:21
MinceR09 031557 < superkuh> http://superkuh.com/thisurlnamehasnothingtodowiththeactualtopicijustnameditthisforkicks.htmlFeb 09 03:22
MinceRniceFeb 09 03:22
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/HJ763JC.mp4Feb 09 03:23
MinceRsuperkuh: is it possible to build an antenna with which you can receive/send to a near field communication device from outside the "near field"?Feb 09 03:26
superkuhWell, antennas are reciprocal devices. If the antenna itself does not efficiently transmit, that is, it's only evanescent wave in the near field, then there's no reason to believe it will be particularly good at converting propagating EM waves in it's effective aperture to voltages.Feb 09 03:27
superkuhBut with high enough power (and closeness) anything is possible.Feb 09 03:28
superkuhAnd likely they're very narrow band.Feb 09 03:28
superkuhI did once spend an hour or so in the parking lot of a local company who has ~60 employees with near field rfid implanted in their hands.Feb 09 03:30
superkuhI used a tapered slot directional antenna to try to pick up any of it.Feb 09 03:30
superkuhI didn't.Feb 09 03:30
MinceRyeah, i guessed that one could do it with a strong enough amplifier, big enough antenna and maybe directionalityFeb 09 03:31
MinceRbut it isn't my area of expertise :>Feb 09 03:31
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MinceRhttps://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/23/27f5f0b3ce898de2.jpgFeb 09 03:50
superkuh... no.Feb 09 03:51
danielp3344DaemonFC: you act like cracking wpa is hardFeb 09 04:01
danielp3344it's not quite as easy, but most people are really bad at making passwordsFeb 09 04:01
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tedboxMinceR: is this a cake?Feb 09 04:46
tedboxan animal?Feb 09 04:47
tedboxor mix of the two?Feb 09 04:47
MinceRa cake that looks like an arthropodFeb 09 04:51
tedboxnice...Feb 09 04:55
tedbox a few times before we bought large chocolate cakes that are shapes like caterpillar Feb 09 04:55
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MinceR:)Feb 09 04:55
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR Fedora 32 will have Mono 6.6 available. Why is this being packaged? Feb 09 07:32
DaemonFC[m]When Novell went under the "Mono community" projects making desktop apps all ceased to exist at the exact same time. Total coincidence. Feb 09 07:33
oiaohmThe windows 10 local search failing because network server goes down this is a scary concept of monitoring.Feb 09 07:37
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acer-boxhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPXNUnnsQLMFeb 09 08:53
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MinceR09 073233 < DaemonFC[m]> MinceR Fedora 32 will have Mono 6.6 available. Why is this being packaged?Feb 09 15:20
MinceRibm getting friendlier with microsloth?Feb 09 15:20
MinceRmaybe they got a novellesque deal and so they don't feel threatened by the patent issues anymoreFeb 09 15:21
MinceRand they never cared about their customers, or the community whose work they're living offFeb 09 15:21
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The IBM/Red Hat merger is looking stranger all the time.Feb 09 15:31
DaemonFC[m]The CEO of IBM resigned and they named the CEO of Red Hat as the CEO of the combined company.Feb 09 15:31
MinceR:>Feb 09 15:31
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MinceRhttps://hugelol.com/lol/652019Feb 09 15:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hugelol.com | smoothFeb 09 15:35
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/652028.pngFeb 09 15:46
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schestowitz__DaemonFC[m]: president, not CEOFeb 09 15:47
schestowitz__CEO is  KrishnaFeb 09 15:47
MinceRthe avatar of Vishnu?Feb 09 15:48
MinceR(audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/25/d65d70ccbd1c5ca6.mp4Feb 09 16:06
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DaemonFC[m]Sent by Gozer the Gozerian.Feb 09 16:16
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/651965.pngFeb 09 16:32
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/651879.pngFeb 09 16:54
XRevan86MinceR: Sounds like trollingFeb 09 16:57
MinceR:>Feb 09 16:58
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/Vydp72U.mp4Feb 09 16:58
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Servers: #GNU / #Linux , #Microsoft Hypocrisy/Lies, #Kubernetes and #ClownComputing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/133867 [https://pleroma.site/objects/87df0ef2-1e37-4fb9-b379-5978f9e3f057]Feb 09 17:20
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: New in LWN (Outside Paywall): Fedora's Git, Cryptography and Kernel (Linux) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/133868 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1588a58d-2ce5-421c-9b70-c349348e1466]Feb 09 17:32
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19121438Feb 09 17:44
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XRevan86MinceR: Happiness and relief.Feb 09 17:48
MinceR:)Feb 09 17:49
MinceRhttps://cdn.niu.moe/media_attachments/files/008/730/964/original/ebb2dd5442d9a74e.jpegFeb 09 17:52
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DaemonFC[m]https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/02/hackable-code-trusted-by-windows-lets-ransomware-burrow-deep-into-targeted-machines/Feb 09 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Windows trust in abandoned code lets ransomware burrow deep into targeted machines | Ars TechnicaFeb 09 18:31
XRevan86https://youtu.be/epkKHwk4EMg never mindFeb 09 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-See the moment Moto's Razr stops after 27,000 folds - YouTubeFeb 09 18:37
oiaohmExactly what would have been so bad about doing 2 screens and no fold.Feb 09 18:41
MinceRthen you wouldn't be able to use it as 1 screenFeb 09 18:43
MinceRe.g. you can't watch a movie without having a line through itFeb 09 18:44
oiaohmMinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U81hJdPGYPk&feature=emb_rel_err 2 screen can be used as 1.  Now its how small you get the bezel between them.Feb 09 18:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Close up of www.piwall.co.uk Raspberry Pi six screen video wall - YouTubeFeb 09 18:50
MinceRyeah, you need to get it down to the inter-pixel distanceFeb 09 18:53
MinceRwhich isn't easFeb 09 18:53
MinceRyFeb 09 18:53
oiaohmThe area where the fold is will either break over time or get distorted any how.Feb 09 18:55
MinceRor they'll figure out how to do it wellFeb 09 18:58
oiaohmMinceR: take two bezelless screens that we currently can do Put them in a single phone.  With hindges that get them as closs as practical. Would most likely look as good as a fold after some usage  without the breakage problem.Feb 09 18:59
MinceRyeah, that's what i thoughtFeb 09 18:59
MinceRit's enough to just do 1 bezelless edge for it to workFeb 09 18:59
MinceRor they could do more and fold into more partsFeb 09 19:00
oiaohmThe fold itself is troubel.Feb 09 19:00
MinceRonly if you fold displaysFeb 09 19:00
oiaohmThink the most common failure point in a laptop is the cable running from the main body to the screen.Feb 09 19:00
MinceRif you just fold some sort of hinge so that 2 (or more) displays are put side by side with their bezelless edges touching, that isn't so difficultFeb 09 19:01
MinceRlenovo seems to have managed to make those cables workFeb 09 19:01
MinceRthey could also be made detachable and replaceable if necessaryFeb 09 19:01
oiaohmlenovo makes them simple to replace.Feb 09 19:01
oiaohmand they have more slack to reduce the folding.Feb 09 19:02
oiaohmNow you cannot put extract slack in a screen.Feb 09 19:02
MinceRyou could even make separate devices you can plug together into a tabletFeb 09 19:02
oiaohmMagentic connections?  As apple did with their power cords.Feb 09 19:03
MinceRmaybe, but hopefully not such low quality as apple'sFeb 09 19:04
MinceRthose tend to burn themselvesFeb 09 19:04
oiaohmBasically there are tones of way to make a folding device that will work without the folding screen bit.Feb 09 19:04
oiaohmand is able to display large like screen playback.Feb 09 19:04
oiaohmMinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohYAYQA4ATM  other than the bezels this is one time I think Microsoft more on the right path.  At least that device has a chance of lasting.Feb 09 19:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Surface Duo first look: Microsoft's foldable Android phone - YouTubeFeb 09 19:06
MinceRLG did it better and they did it before microslothFeb 09 19:06
MinceRjudging by earlier Surfaces, i wouldn't expect this one to last eitherFeb 09 19:07
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oiaohmMinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4VJPjoNmeo  LG doing the add on device second screen idea.Feb 09 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LG G8X ThinQ Unboxing: Dual Screens! - YouTubeFeb 09 19:09
MinceRindeedFeb 09 19:09
oiaohmMinceR: either LG or Microsoft ideas stand a decent chance of in fact working.Feb 09 19:09
oiaohmLG has absolutely huge bezels at this stage.Feb 09 19:11
MinceRall of those bezels are way too big for what we're talking aboutFeb 09 19:11
oiaohmMicrosoft is inside what is classes as acceptable lost for a video wall and the loss fold damage can create over time.Feb 09 19:14
oiaohmI am not saying you would not want smaller.Feb 09 19:14
oiaohmMinceR: I guess it kind of scary when you think the Microsoft one is where the other folds are going to degraded to over time if they don't fail first.   Not that the Microsoft one with current tech could not be done better.Feb 09 19:16
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/25/4c54a8dcdfd4fdd0.jpgFeb 09 19:22
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DaemonFC[m]Facebook's privacy settings are worse than Windows 10.Feb 09 19:40
DaemonFC[m]There's nearly 20 settings and turning them off requires going to several places, including a URL that isn't linked to by Facebook anywhere I could find.Feb 09 19:41
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19121415Feb 09 19:44
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: I would not be too sure on that one the local search failure on Windows 10 does suggest undocumented reporting.Feb 09 19:53
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19121375Feb 09 20:38
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MinceR(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET0MFkRorboFeb 09 22:03
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