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MinceRDaemonFC[m]: all systemd distributions do a bunch of crackpot shit that shows no signs of stoppingMar 09 00:07
MinceRthat's what makes them systemd distributionsMar 09 00:07
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DaemonFC[m]There's a changelog for a LAME 3.100.1 coming.Mar 09 00:09
DaemonFC[m]Seems someone is still interested in it.Mar 09 00:10
MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/justiceMar 09 00:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - JusticeMar 09 00:10
DaemonFC[m]I still have some WMAs.Mar 09 00:14
DaemonFC[m]I downloaded them with Windows Vista when they gave me a 3 month free trial of their URGE store and then I removed the DRM.Mar 09 00:15
DaemonFC[m]Since transcoding would just mean further quality loss and playback is fairly straightforward on just about anything, I still have some.Mar 09 00:15
MinceRi have some wmas _somewhere_Mar 09 00:15
MinceRif the mp3s i found from old archives are of any indication, i'll be probably better off just downloading the audio from youtube if i want to listen to them :>Mar 09 00:16
DaemonFC[m]At 192k it doesn't sound bad, but no codec should sound bad at 192k.Mar 09 00:16
DaemonFC[m]At low bitrates, WMA Standard sounds bad. Especially before they tuned it some more in WMA 9.Mar 09 00:17
DaemonFC[m]You can straight up forget about ising WMA at 96k while Opus does a good job at that bitrate. Mar 09 00:18
MinceRi never even considered using wmaMar 09 00:18
DaemonFC[m]WMA Pro works well at 96k, but that's a completely different codec with almost no hardware support.Mar 09 00:18
MinceRit's from microsloth and all their stuff has always suckedMar 09 00:18
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft released a tool that claimed it could take your MP3s and teanscode them to 64k WMA and save you space.Mar 09 00:19
DaemonFC[m]😂Mar 09 00:19
MinceRthe sole reason wma even exists is that someone at microshit management is furious that they don't get to own one or more of its competitorsMar 09 00:19
DaemonFC[m]Which is factually true. It did do that and it did save space. Mar 09 00:20
MinceRor at least wasMar 09 00:20
DaemonFC[m]Sounded really terrible....Mar 09 00:20
MinceRwell, you could just as well have deleted your mp3sMar 09 00:20
MinceRthat would have saved even more spaceMar 09 00:20
DaemonFC[m]WMA music stores suggested burning the WMA to a CD then ripping to MP3 to work around the DRM when they shut down their license servers.Mar 09 00:21
MinceRlolMar 09 00:21
MinceRand not only is all microsuck's stuff atrocious, it always comes with strings attachedMar 09 00:21
DaemonFC[m]Wheb crApple FoulPlay was around, there was a program for Mac OS that simulated a CD burn and then ripped them back to AAC without the DRM.Mar 09 00:22
MinceRyou don't get to just have some awful product or service, you also get some of your freedom taken awayMar 09 00:22
MinceRit's like a deal with the devil if the stuff you'd get out of such deals was horribleMar 09 00:22
DaemonFC[m]I saw that and I'm like that's fucking stupid. They'll sound worse than an MP3 at that point.Mar 09 00:22
DaemonFC[m]Why would people pay for that?Mar 09 00:23
MinceRbecause most people are dangerously stupidMar 09 00:23
DaemonFC[m]MinceR It chained you to the PC or Mac that got licensed.Mar 09 00:23
DaemonFC[m]And then if they ever stopped agreeing to license the files, they'd all self destruct.Mar 09 00:23
DaemonFC[m]I saw that shit coming.Mar 09 00:24
DaemonFC[m]A mile away.Mar 09 00:24
DaemonFC[m]I can't believe anyone ever paid for that. Streaming is just that without files to manage.Mar 09 00:24
MinceRDRM still has many fanatic defenders who get nothing out of itMar 09 00:25
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, my in laws.Mar 09 00:27
DaemonFC[m]Stupid idiots who love Apple.Mar 09 00:27
DaemonFC[m]MinceR,  Most of the people over here in the Terran Empire of Illinois are assholes and idiots just like them.Mar 09 00:29
DaemonFC[m]I can't wait to leave.Mar 09 00:30
psydreadWhat is happening with phones is even worse than what has been happening to PCsMar 09 00:34
psydreadI was unfortunate enough to experience Qualcomm Secure Boot on a Samsung Galaxy J5 yesterday, preventing me from putting any newer software on the device Mar 09 00:36
DaemonFC[m]My Galaxy S8+ isn't getting Android 10, but at least I can work around Google's missing codecs and codec bugs with another media framework. Mar 09 01:04
DaemonFC[m]What pisses me off is that the opus bug in the native codecs was a three line patch that they could have applied 8 years ago.Mar 09 01:05
DaemonFC[m]Still beats Apple.Mar 09 01:06
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psydreadI think it's harmful for people not to truly own their devices, so I'm going to avoid Android going forward and will only buy devices with unlockable bootloaders. Apple has never been in the running for me.Mar 09 01:36
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DaemonFC[m]Well, when Android OEMs abandon you, the security vulnerabilities just pile up unfixed.Mar 09 02:05
DaemonFC[m]The only good thing about an iPhone is that most of them at least get OS updates for about 5 years it seems.Mar 09 02:05
DaemonFC[m]You'd kind of hope so seeing as how they cost triple what an Android does.Mar 09 02:06
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I may just get a thumb drive and then I can leave it plugged into my laptop and offload my FLAC collection onto that.Mar 09 02:09
DaemonFC[m]Well, WavPack anyway.Mar 09 02:10
DaemonFC[m]I made a WavPack version of everything to conserve space on my phone's SD card.Mar 09 02:10
DaemonFC[m]Sometimes FLAC handles stuff better, but it's not often.Mar 09 02:10
DaemonFC[m]So I have some FLAC files on my phone whenever WavPack ends up being bigger.Mar 09 02:10
DaemonFC[m]In general, WavPack is as much of an improvement in compression over FLAC as FLAC is over ALAC.Mar 09 02:11
DaemonFC[m]The predictor doesn't use Huffman Coding.Mar 09 02:12
DaemonFC[m]Interestingly, it only uses integer math, with no floating point allowed.Mar 09 02:12
DaemonFC[m]David Bryant said that this was to avoid subtle chip to chip bugs that could throw off the result when you go to use it.Mar 09 02:13
DaemonFC[m]WavPack is supported in an alternative implementation in FFMpeg. I asked David Bryant to look at it.Mar 09 02:15
DaemonFC[m]He says theirs doesn't support the Version 5 features, but the bitstream itself hasn't changed in a way that would render v4 files unplayable so there's no real reason not to use theirs.Mar 09 02:15
DaemonFC[m]He says he's happy there's another implementation and that they actually got it right.Mar 09 02:16
superkuhSo what do you do when you want to play music in a normal player? Convert?Mar 09 02:16
DaemonFC[m]?Mar 09 02:16
DaemonFC[m]WavPack?Mar 09 02:16
superkuhYeah.Mar 09 02:16
DaemonFC[m]It plays fine on a lot of things.Mar 09 02:16
DaemonFC[m]Android supports it with VLC and several other players.Mar 09 02:17
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DaemonFC[m]You can convert WavPack to Opus or anything else FFMpeg supports with ffmpeg -i whateverMar 09 02:18
DaemonFC[m]FFMPeg's Opus encoder is reference Opus.Mar 09 02:19
DaemonFC[m]It has a native encoder that they're working on, but in the mean time the default and recommended method is to use their opusenc wrapper.Mar 09 02:20
DaemonFC[m]Hard Rock and Heavy Metal seem to be the hardest for lossless codecs to compress efficiently.Mar 09 02:22
DaemonFC[m]But overall, you can expect a particular file to drop 10 kbps to 35 kbps if you convert it from FLAC 8 to WavPack Extra High.Mar 09 02:22
DaemonFC[m]It's not a ton, but it's not nothing either.Mar 09 02:23
superkuhYeah, most don't.Mar 09 02:23
superkuh(support it)Mar 09 02:23
DaemonFC[m]Also, the APE tags that WavPack uses are more efficient than Vorbis Comment.Mar 09 02:23
superkuhBut I guess it works if you limit yourself to that ecosystem.Mar 09 02:23
DaemonFC[m]So you also save about 6 KB per file in the tags.Mar 09 02:23
DaemonFC[m]WavPack is also what happens if you use the reference ZIP software to pack an audio file.Mar 09 02:25
DaemonFC[m]Errr, WAV/AIFF that is.Mar 09 02:26
DaemonFC[m]It turns it into a WavPack file.Mar 09 02:26
superkuhMight be useful for my baseband recordings or solar radio stuff.Mar 09 02:27
superkuhThanks for the tip on it's existence.Mar 09 02:27
superkuhs/or/of/Mar 09 02:27
DaemonFC[m]Yep yep.Mar 09 02:27
DaemonFC[m]I found it when I downloaded some music and I was like what the hell are these?Mar 09 02:27
DaemonFC[m]So I read about them and  converted them to FLAC.Mar 09 02:27
DaemonFC[m]Then I'm like "FLAC is bigger?".Mar 09 02:28
superkuhFuck. Deja vu.Mar 09 02:28
superkuhDid we have this conversation 4 months ago?Mar 09 02:29
DaemonFC[m]There's reference software for it on Linux but you'd need to use FFMPeg to pipe it in and then deal with tagging somehow.Mar 09 02:29
DaemonFC[m]Maybe.Mar 09 02:29
DaemonFC[m]There's no open source option that I know if that does better.Mar 09 02:30
DaemonFC[m]Some crazy Asian people actually implemented APE in hardware. barfMar 09 02:30
DaemonFC[m]When I use a format to store data, I like to know that I can get my data out later and that someone else banged on it to make sure it really does store the data correctly. Maybe I'm just peculiar like that.Mar 09 02:32
DaemonFC[m]Anyway, obviously if you have 512 GB of FLAC 8 and you put it in WavPack, it'll free up about 7-7.5 GB.Mar 09 02:33
DaemonFC[m]So it's a nice little bonus there.Mar 09 02:33
DaemonFC[m]superkuh: One thing I found out is that WavPack supports DSF directly.Mar 09 02:37
DaemonFC[m]I haven't tried that yet though.Mar 09 02:37
DaemonFC[m]I thought it was a strange feature. With FLAC you have to convert it to PCM first.Mar 09 02:38
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DaemonFC[m]In general, those hi res music pirates are not distributing WavPack'd DSFs. They'veee used some resampler and put the result in a FLAC file, and that might actually be a bigger disaster than a CD rip going into FLAC, even though the files are much larger.Mar 09 02:40
DaemonFC[m]I'm skeptical of DSF anyway.Mar 09 02:42
DaemonFC[m]I think SACD was a big scam and that the superior format was DVD-A, but they both lost.Mar 09 02:43
DaemonFC[m]I lean so heavily on foobar2000 anyway. I actually mostly have Wine just for that.Mar 09 02:44
DaemonFC[m]I just wanted to know FFMpeg was an easy way to get my data back out of WavPack if I needed to one day.Mar 09 02:45
DaemonFC[m]I asked Bryant why FFMpeg wasn't putting like "WavPack High" in the file if it had various options that mapped to the settings in reference, and he said it's just something the reference encoder makes note of and it's not really important.Mar 09 02:48
DaemonFC[m]From what I've seen about him he's a bit of a perfectionist. Mar 09 02:50
DaemonFC[m]A bunch of "security researchers" pointed out "CVEs" in WavPack, even though there's no way to use them to attack someone.Mar 09 02:50
DaemonFC[m]So he fixed them upstream and then Linux distributions started noticing and pulling in the patches themselves, so he eventually rolled out a new release with no real changes just because the stupid "security researchers" got CVE numbers.Mar 09 02:51
DaemonFC[m]That kind of made me laugh.Mar 09 02:51
DaemonFC[m]Even though the release didn't change anything really, I still pulled it in and dropped it in my foobar2000 encoders.Mar 09 02:53
DaemonFC[m]I clobber the ones it comes with anyway.Mar 09 02:54
DaemonFC[m]Since it calls them as external executables you can do that.Mar 09 02:54
DaemonFC[m]So usually it's to put a 64-bit encoder there, but sometimes to bump versions or drop something in that he won't touch because patents.Mar 09 02:55
DaemonFC[m]It supports fdk-aac, but I ended up getting it from some Russian site.Mar 09 02:55
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DaemonFC[m]http://www.wavpack.com/Mar 09 03:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WavPack Audio CompressionMar 09 03:10
DaemonFC[m]superkuh: Seems some portable media player hardware does support WavPack.Mar 09 03:11
DaemonFC[m]Honestly, anything Android can run VLC though.Mar 09 03:11
superkuhAnything android is not a media player.Mar 09 03:11
superkuhIt's a (shitty) general purpose computer.Mar 09 03:12
superkuhMy mp3 player is barely bigger than the tip of my thumb and plays music for days.Mar 09 03:12
DaemonFC[m]You could just slap VLC on it and use it as a media player.Mar 09 03:12
DaemonFC[m]For what they charge for a basic phone, it's worth it.Mar 09 03:12
superkuhDiscrete devices > all-in-oneMar 09 03:13
DaemonFC[m]Well, in the case of a dedicated player, you might use more power with WavPack.Mar 09 03:13
DaemonFC[m]On an Android phone, the CPU idle speed is more than fast enough to decode WavPack.Mar 09 03:13
DaemonFC[m]I suppose a Chromebook could play WavPack.... Dunno. I guess if nothing else install DeadBeeF in the Linux subsystem.Mar 09 03:14
DaemonFC[m]It used to be the case a long time ago that they had  a special DSP in there that was heavily optimized for MP3 and if you put Rockbox on it absolutely nothing could be more efficient to play back than MP3.Mar 09 03:16
superkuhYeah, I have that on my big sansa player with screen. But I almost always use my sansa clip(s) instead because they're tiny and last forever.Mar 09 03:17
DaemonFC[m]My Clip+ gets good battery life playing Opus.Mar 09 03:18
DaemonFC[m]Rockbox adds support for that.Mar 09 03:18
DaemonFC[m]Their current model doesn't run Rockbox and removed support for Ogg Vorbis.Mar 09 03:19
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DaemonFC[m]It's sad that FLAC came along and became a de facto standard.Mar 09 03:23
DaemonFC[m]WavPack is actually older.Mar 09 03:23
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schestowitzhttps://www.ft.com/content/dab75720-618a-11ea-a6cd-df28cc3c6a68Mar 09 05:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | Subscribe to read | Financial TimesMar 09 05:15
schestowitzgreat stuffMar 09 05:15
schestowitznow they can't sell this stuffMar 09 05:15
schestowitz"Oil price crashes 30% as markets open"Mar 09 05:16
schestowitzhttps://www.pressherald.com/2020/03/08/nominations-are-open-2020-source-maine-sustainability-awards/Mar 09 05:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pressherald.com | Nominations are open: 2020 Source Maine Sustainability Awards - Portland Press HeraldMar 09 05:18
schestowitzhttp://ethanolproducer.com/articles/16950/open-source-software-analyzes-economics-of-biofuels-bioproductsMar 09 05:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ethanolproducer.com | Ethanol Producer Magazine – The Latest News and Data About Ethanol ProductionMar 09 05:19
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: If anything it'll wipe out ethanol companies.Mar 09 05:39
DaemonFC[m]Why would anyone want to use E85 or E15 when the price of gas is crashing to a buck fifty?Mar 09 05:39
DaemonFC[m]It's only barely worth it now, in a few states.Mar 09 05:40
DaemonFC[m]The whole ethanol industry is a big government boondoggle for agriculture and because it's a cheap oxygen additive that doesn't spew lead or MTBE everywhere.Mar 09 05:40
DaemonFC[m]So there's currently no economic case to be made for blending it higher than 10%. And doing so can ruin small engines and boat motors anyway.Mar 09 05:41
DaemonFC[m]On a car engine made in the last 19 years, you can go up to 15% generally speaking, but the only people who are really pushing for it are politicians in corn states.Mar 09 05:42
schestowitzI know it is heavily subsidisedMar 09 06:02
schestowitzit also looks like a bad idea on paperMar 09 06:02
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: this whole lockdown mentality will be a boon for home-workingMar 09 06:02
schestowitzaka remote workMar 09 06:02
schestowitzI've done that for agesMar 09 06:02
schestowitzand maybe more/other jobs will adopt the sameMar 09 06:02
schestowitzfirst out of urgencyMar 09 06:02
schestowitzand then they may realise, "hey, this isn't too bad"Mar 09 06:03
schestowitzThey they'll stop paying rents for those "open offices" in townsMar 09 06:03
schestowitzand shut down physical, centralised presenceMar 09 06:03
schestowitzthen, energy consumption downMar 09 06:03
schestowitznot sure about sanitary workers on such sitesMar 09 06:03
schestowitzbut there's something to be said about impact  wrt to working conditions and normsMar 09 06:04
schestowitzlast night I heard about  and from people who now work from homeMar 09 06:04
schestowitzmaybe I can change my job if more employers start to allow "home offices"Mar 09 06:04
schestowitzprice of gas going down means less money in 'mining' fossil fuelsMar 09 06:05
schestowitzwhich is already a step in the right directionMar 09 06:05
schestowitzhours ago we checked which places we can travel to  inside England... albeit public transport isn't  entirely safe eitherMar 09 06:05
schestowitz3rd death here, from  corona virus, confirmed last nightMar 09 06:06
schestowitzsomeone in his/her 60s from ManchesterMar 09 06:06
schestowitz3rd death in the UKMar 09 06:06
DaemonFC[m]I't up to 22 here.Mar 09 06:18
DaemonFC[m]The death rate seems to be about 5% of what the confirmed cases are.Mar 09 06:18
schestowitzhttp://www.biomassmagazine.com/articles/16848/open-source-software-analyzes-economics-of-biofuels-bioproductsMar 09 06:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open-source software analyzes economics of biofuels, bioproducts | Biomassmagazine.comMar 09 06:22
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MinceR(cat) (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/02/04/9b5347f6a57a8a4c.mp4Mar 09 07:35
schestowitzSelf-bagging catMar 09 07:43
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexible-fuel_vehicles_in_Brazil  Its something that I have has a problem with.  With modern engine designs it possible to build a petrol engine that does not car if it 100 percent ethanol, methanol or gasoline or any random mix of.  Mar 09 07:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Flexible-fuel vehicles in Brazil - WikipediaMar 09 07:44
oiaohmcar/careMar 09 07:44
MinceRhow does it like having water in that ethanol or methanol?Mar 09 07:45
MinceRand how well does it work with european emissions regulations?Mar 09 07:45
oiaohmMinceR: Flexible fuel systems tolerated water tainted fuel perfectly. Mar 09 07:45
MinceRinterestingMar 09 07:46
oiaohmThe way the fuel intake is done you can fill the tank 90 water 10 percent ethonal and not break anything.Mar 09 07:46
oiaohmThat is a basicially normal car killing mixture.Mar 09 07:46
MinceRalso, someone made a methanol-to-hydrogen converter and hooked it up to a fuel cellMar 09 07:47
oiaohmNote it using better sensors on fuel intake.Mar 09 07:47
oiaohmOther control methods in intake.Mar 09 07:47
MinceRsensing won't help, they also need to somehow separate the waterMar 09 07:47
oiaohmThe other control methods.Mar 09 07:48
oiaohmMeans to split out stuff if required.Mar 09 07:48
oiaohmPlease note I said would not break anything.Mar 09 07:48
oiaohmNot that the car would run with that horrible mix.Mar 09 07:48
oiaohmBasically car computer smart enought look at fuel mix and go no way in hell am I putting that in my engine.Mar 09 07:49
oiaohmNormal engines depend on filters to catch the water not sensors to go this is bad I am not pumping it.Mar 09 07:50
oiaohmMost of the smarts in flexible fuel is at the fuel tank pump.Mar 09 07:50
oiaohmand then the computer taking that information to adjust the injection.Mar 09 07:51
oiaohmOr simple flat out refuse if stuff is way too bad.Mar 09 07:51
oiaohmflat out refuse can be using the return to tank line Mar 09 07:51
MinceRand how well do these engines work with european emissions regulations?Mar 09 07:51
oiaohmBrazil cars emission regulations are in fact stricter than european ones.Mar 09 07:52
oiaohmSo no problem.Mar 09 07:52
MinceRniceMar 09 07:52
oiaohmThe fact computer knows exactly what fuel is going into engine it a lot more simple to get a clean a proper burn.Mar 09 07:53
oiaohmBasically information is power.Mar 09 07:53
oiaohmNon flexfuel engine designs are basically working with more guess work on what the fuel is so cannot get as clean of burn.Mar 09 07:53
MinceRThought for the day: Knowledge is power, guard it well.Mar 09 07:53
oiaohmReally there is no valid reason other than being stupid that flexfuel engines have not come globally mandorary.Mar 09 07:54
oiaohmflex fuel you fill up at a bad service station you are less likely to break down because of it.Mar 09 07:55
MinceRit seems they prefer counterproductive regulations in the EUMar 09 07:55
oiaohmand if you do break down it will normally be a minor issue jack car up drain bad fuel add good fuel and go.Mar 09 07:55
MinceRlike the ones that kill off small cars because people won't buy them at the price they'd cost with all the emission reduction technologyMar 09 07:55
oiaohmYes the computer will be telling that its not running due to really bad fuel.Mar 09 07:55
MinceRwhile bigger and heavier cars get far more lenient regulationsMar 09 07:56
oiaohmReally there is a catch a flex fuel engine needs less service due to less wear and tear caused by buring fuel correctly all the time.Mar 09 07:57
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oiaohmMinceR: Brazil its the heavier cars and trucks using gasoline/ethanol that are forced.   Thinking that the less amount of ethanol you can get in fuel in Brazil these days is 25 percent ethanol 75% gasoline. Mar 09 08:00
oiaohmBut the fuel in the country could be any mix between 100 percent ethanol and 25ethanol/75 gasoline.Mar 09 08:01
oiaohmMinceR: its really stupid when you think about most emission control you are controlling the emissions but you are not control what is going in to make those emissions.    Now this is why mandating flex fuel support means making the cars/trucks/bikes have to regulate intake as well.Mar 09 08:04
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oiaohmSo car passes emission control in EU and it was loaded with perfect fuel.  It gets out on the road gets filled up with imperfect fuel now it not doing the emissions it was tested todo.   See the difference with the flex fuel.  What was tested with good fuel the car should still do with bad fuel Mar 09 08:06
oiaohmis the advantage of flex fuel.Mar 09 08:06
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MinceRoiaohm: works well for the lobbyists, though ...until they die along with us, anywayMar 09 08:28
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DaemonFC[m]I figured the economy would collapse this year.Mar 09 08:31
DaemonFC[m]Mom wasn't hearing any of it.Mar 09 08:31
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DaemonFC[m]Told her things were just waiting for an excuse because everything was horrendously overvalued and anything could come along and knock it over.Mar 09 08:31
DaemonFC[m]I didn't think it would be a pandemic. I thought it would be an oil shock, or loans going bad.Mar 09 08:32
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MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/socksMar 09 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - SocksMar 09 11:13
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MinceRhttps://66.media.tumblr.com/ee977c7bea18f7fdba051cc0aa0a3618/tumblr_p4wkg1lqYV1srjwkeo1_640.jpgMar 09 12:05
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MinceRhttp://existentialcomics.com/comic/327Mar 09 14:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | Philosophy News Network: Should We All Just Kill Ourselves or What? - Existential ComicsMar 09 14:11
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I think Putin would only do this if he wanted rid of Trump. Ironically, gas will be cheaper than it normally is for a while, but it badly damages US energy companies that were essentially zombie corporations other than Trump's tax cuts and the low interest loans that they could never really pay back.Mar 09 14:42
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/83ymFCA.pngMar 09 14:43
DaemonFC[m]The emergency Fed rate cut was designed to counter some of this and prop them up by letting them take on some more cheap debt, but it won't be enough.Mar 09 14:43
MinceR(cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/02/03/03457b59d4eb864c.jpgMar 09 15:11
XRevan86https://linux.org.ru/forum/talks/15573174 peachyMar 09 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.org.ru | Роскомнадзор будет блокировать mesh-сети, I2P, TOR, TON, Freenet, Zeronet, anoNet — Talks — ФорумMar 09 15:34
XRevan86Roskomnadzor wants to spend 9 million roubles on blocking TOR, etc.Mar 09 15:35
MinceRgot to control what the slaves readMar 09 15:36
MinceRand writeMar 09 15:36
DaemonFC[m]It seems like the value of the Basic Attention Token has collapsed too.Mar 09 16:04
DaemonFC[m]In half since I installed Brave.Mar 09 16:04
MinceRprobably because of whichever cryptocurrency it's based onMar 09 16:08
XRevan86MinceR: It's a cryptocurrency on its own.Mar 09 16:08
XRevan86It's based on the *code* of Ethereum.Mar 09 16:08
MinceRicMar 09 16:08
XRevan86which is FOSSMar 09 16:08
MinceRi thought it was merely Ethereum-basedMar 09 16:09
MinceRbased on an Ethereum standard :>Mar 09 16:09
XRevan86Whichever that means %)Mar 09 16:10
MinceRmakes me wonder why they didn't just use ethereumMar 09 16:11
*XRevan86 cannot find sources of BAT.Mar 09 16:11
MinceRmaybe it's in the BATcaveMar 09 16:12
XRevan86MinceR: You mean EtherMar 09 16:12
MinceRwhateverMar 09 16:12
XRevan86which is a currency based on EthereumMar 09 16:12
DaemonFC[m]I'm leaving it on. It raises some money that I can throw at Tor, Wikipedia, RUTracker, etc.Mar 09 16:12
XRevan86MinceR: Obviously they wanted their own shitMar 09 16:12
DaemonFC[m]I'm going to start donating to RUTracker because I use it quite a bit.Mar 09 16:12
DaemonFC[m]I have no idea how to read Russian, but Brave can, so I know where the links are and if people are complaining about dubious sources and fakes.Mar 09 16:13
psydroidI miss an easy to use translation feature in FirefoxMar 09 16:14
superkuhIs the translation automatic?Mar 09 16:14
XRevan86psydroid: I've seen some add-ons for that.Mar 09 16:14
psydroidI can read some Russian but I am far from fluent and don't have a good enough understanding yetMar 09 16:15
XRevan86Most of the stuff that I try to read is either in English, Russian or Ukrainian, which I can either read or mostly read, so a need in such an add-on never came up for me.Mar 09 16:15
tedboxXRevan86: what does the Russian site say?Mar 09 16:16
XRevan86> Roskomnadzor wants to spend 9 million roubles on blocking TOR, etc.Mar 09 16:17
XRevan86Practically penniesMar 09 16:17
XRevan86> (the contract mentions Yggdrasill, cjDNS, Briar, Signal Offline, FireChat), I2P, TOR, Telegram Open Network, Freenet, Zeronet, anoNet, as well as technologies and protocols of "IoT"Mar 09 16:18
XRevan86> As a result there should be developed integrated recommendations on limiting access to forbidden information using mesh-networks (the contract mentions <…> of "IoT".Mar 09 16:20
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tedboxYggdrasill??Mar 09 16:48
XRevan86https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/Mar 09 16:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yggdrasil-network.github.io | Introduction | YggdrasilMar 09 16:49
tedboxI see...Mar 09 16:51
tedboxlol githubMar 09 16:51
tedboxnothing says privacy like microsoft+nsa+binary blobwareMar 09 16:51
*tedbox is now known as roy-at-tedMar 09 16:51
DaemonFC[m]> nothing says privacy like microsoft+nsa+binary blobwareMar 09 17:06
DaemonFC[m]Having your entire project deleted because Facebook complained that it could download jpegs and thus violated the DMCA.Mar 09 17:06
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: purple-whatsapp?Mar 09 17:06
DaemonFC[m]instagram-apiMar 09 17:07
*XRevan86 read a twatter thread on a Nazi flag unveil on a Bernie Sanders' rally for a few seconds.Mar 09 17:08
DaemonFC[m]Some of the Hollyweb folks want rid of even safe harbor for service providers who always follow the take down demands.Mar 09 17:08
XRevan86People keep talking about "snake emojis"Mar 09 17:08
XRevan86Is that the new "O.K. sign" bullcrap?Mar 09 17:09
DaemonFC[m]For now there's a few people in Congress that realize that this would make it too dangerous to even try to run an internet company in the US.Mar 09 17:09
DaemonFC[m]Trump realizes now that people blame him for the market meltdowns and the Coronavirus. Mar 09 17:10
DaemonFC[m]So he's screaming that it's the fault of the news and Joe Biden somehow. Mar 09 17:10
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: What's going on over there?Mar 09 17:10
XRevan86Rouble crumbled. Apparently something about petroleum.Mar 09 17:11
DaemonFC[m]The only reason Trump wants another term is so the looting can continue unabated.Mar 09 17:11
DaemonFC[m]> Rouble crumbled. Apparently something about petroleum.Mar 09 17:12
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, Russia and OPEC walked away from a deal that would have more or less fixed prices on oil and with the side effect being propping up an industry in the US that is heavily in debt.Mar 09 17:12
DaemonFC[m]If the price of oil collapses, it will hurt Russia and OPEC a lot short term, but it will damage the US more in the long run because there will be a wave of energy company bankruptcies followed by a banking crisis.Mar 09 17:13
DaemonFC[m]The US oil companies need prices to be at least $45 per barrrel or so to break even on most of these operationsMar 09 17:14
DaemonFC[m]So if it stays at $25-30 for 12 months, a lot of them will not survive because they'll start missing debt payments.Mar 09 17:14
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Can clean up the turf for a potential monopoly, no?Mar 09 17:15
DaemonFC[m]It could, because the asset will be seized by the bankruptcy trustees and sold for peanuts to recoup whatever they can for the creditors.Mar 09 17:16
DaemonFC[m]It's sort of like when a person files Chapter 13, right?Mar 09 17:16
DaemonFC[m]The court might leave them with a car that barely runs and the shirt on their back.Mar 09 17:16
DaemonFC[m]But if they have much else, it all gets taken away.Mar 09 17:16
DaemonFC[m]You have to sign a form swearing under perjury that you aren't hiding any cash or expensive jewelry or anything from the court.Mar 09 17:17
DaemonFC[m]But most states protect a certain amount of money on hand and your wedding ring and stuff.Mar 09 17:17
DaemonFC[m]So they're not in there prying your wedding ring off.Mar 09 17:18
DaemonFC[m]Illinois doesn't specifically have protections for your wedding ring or anything like that, but it has a wildcard exemption.Mar 09 17:18
DaemonFC[m]If you structure things right, then you shouldn't lose most of what you have if you actually need to file liquidation bankruptcy. Mar 09 17:19
DaemonFC[m]Another tactic that can sometimes work is sitting tight and hoping your creditors don't sue you. Mar 09 17:19
DaemonFC[m]It's unwise to leave a lot of money in the bank if you're counting on this.Mar 09 17:20
DaemonFC[m]It's expensive to sue someone and so a lot of banks and hospitals don't sue until they pull your credit report and verify you have bank accounts, vehicles that are worth a lot, a good paying job, etc. etc.Mar 09 17:20
DaemonFC[m]So other than having your credit ruined, they might never make a move on you and the window for a lawsuit comes and goes.Mar 09 17:21
DaemonFC[m]Ironically, bankruptcy repairs your credit to some extent because everything else drops off your credit report and gets replaced by a bankruptcy.Mar 09 17:22
DaemonFC[m]So your FICO might go up from like 400 to 600 as soon as the court discharges the debt.Mar 09 17:22
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DaemonFC[m]Not fantastic, not terrible. And you'll start getting credit card offers again in a month or two because they know you can't file bankruptcy again for 8 years.Mar 09 17:23
DaemonFC[m]When mom filed bankruptcy, the first lawyer gave her bad advice and I told her talk to a different lawyer. She didn't believe me, but she talked to another one and I was right and she got another $11,000 in debt thrown out.Mar 09 17:25
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DaemonFC[m]Well, what's funny is all of those people who ended up filing bankruptcy in 2008-2011 can do is again now.Mar 09 17:26
DaemonFC[m]So the US financial system is sitting on a powderkeg of household debt that people are really struggling with, and several million additional households over baseline could go buclear this year if things get bad.Mar 09 17:28
DaemonFC[m]*nuclear Mar 09 17:28
DaemonFC[m]Apparently, Trump's people are using COVID-19 as an excuse to gather more data about airline passengers, and have resorted to "expletive-laden rants threatening fines and jail time" if airline executives don't comply.Mar 09 17:33
DaemonFC[m]The Republicans are going to use the crisis like they used 2001, in order to take more of our freedom away, never to return, with more power grabs.Mar 09 17:33
DaemonFC[m]Watching Trump manage the US is like someone put Wheatley from Portal 2 in charge.Mar 09 17:51
DaemonFC[m]"If anyone asks, and they're totally not going to ask, but if anyone does ask, just say that all these people down here were basically alive last time you looked.".Mar 09 17:51
DaemonFC[m]And it was all Joe Biden and CNN's fault of they actually come down and look at the mess. Dunno how, but it was!Mar 09 17:51
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XRevan86Isn't Basilisk already glossly behind?Mar 09 18:14
XRevan86grosslyMar 09 18:14
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DaemonFC[m]Trying to fork a bunch of old Mozilla code and have one person maintain it is basically the definition of flogging a dead horse.Mar 09 18:22
DaemonFC[m]Mozilla pretty much pissed me off for the last time I think.Mar 09 18:23
DaemonFC[m]It's just one insult and backpeddle away from Free Software every time you look it seems.Mar 09 18:23
XRevan86Mozilla pissed of for the last time, now it's Brendan Eich's turn.Mar 09 18:24
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DaemonFC[m]The movie theater was pretty dead last Tuesday.Mar 09 18:32
DaemonFC[m]I'd say 30-40% less busy than normal.Mar 09 18:32
DaemonFC[m]Probably people staying at home to avoid public.Mar 09 18:32
DaemonFC[m]AMC theaters fell 17% today alone.Mar 09 18:32
DaemonFC[m]So that's obviously not just my imagination that this is hitting them hard.Mar 09 18:33
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MinceRhttps://twitter.com/PDevonian/status/1236713911983976454Mar 09 19:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PDevonian: So i said to Arnie "where did you get those toilet rolls?" He said "aisle B, back" https://t.co/gWoke0cfYIMar 09 19:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PDevonian: So i said to Arnie "where did you get those toilet rolls?" He said "aisle B, back" https://t.co/gWoke0cfYIMar 09 19:39
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DaemonFC[m]It's unwise of them to promote ZFS.Mar 09 19:53
DaemonFC[m]If it can't go into the upstream kernel with the people in charge of it these days, it must be pretty bad. :)Mar 09 19:53
DaemonFC[m]https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Firefox-Flatpak-Almost-StableMar 09 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mozilla Making Progress With Offering Firefox As A Flatpak On Linux - PhoronixMar 09 19:55
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MinceR:>Mar 09 20:02
MinceRthat should be their sloganMar 09 20:02
MinceR"ZFS®. Even Worse Than kdbus.™"Mar 09 20:03
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19112256Mar 09 20:18
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19112222Mar 09 20:48
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DaemonFC[m]I have a feeling that the same people who are defending Dump for his incompetence are the same ones that knocked and entire pallet of hand sanitizer into their cart at CostCo.Mar 09 21:00
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19112214Mar 09 21:10
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roy-at-tedDaemonFC[m]: Trump?Mar 09 21:12
MinceR(cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/02/03/c9891a44988139cc.jpgMar 09 21:50
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*XRevan86 calmly reads https://habr.com/ru/post/490620 (Russian, predictably), and then…Mar 09 22:02
XRevan86https://habrastorage.org/webt/mn/jk/ms/mnjkmsxxiheegc1t_crmai5doga.jpegMar 09 22:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-habr.com | Когда я слышу слова «нейросеть восстановила», я лезу проверять бэкапы / ХабрMar 09 22:02
XRevan86holy fscking heck! you should warn your reader!Mar 09 22:03
XRevan86(photograph "enhancement" using neural networks)Mar 09 22:04
XRevan86The author says that this process should be called "retouch" instead of "enhancing". That makes sense.Mar 09 22:07
MinceR:)Mar 09 22:09
MinceRfinally, automatized pareidoliaMar 09 22:10
MinceRwhat was the original photo of anyway?Mar 09 22:10
XRevan86MinceR: https://hsto.org/webt/xv/zw/od/xvzwodokw610bekzpw6qfinenqc.jpegMar 09 22:10
MinceR:)Mar 09 22:11
roy-at-tedXRevan86: context?Mar 09 22:14
roy-at-tedoh, I seeMar 09 22:14
roy-at-tedit's in Russia thoughMar 09 22:14
XRevan86"it's in Russia though" – that changes everythingMar 09 22:15
schestowitzanother jesus-on-toast-like stories...Mar 09 22:15
schestowitzI meant RussianMar 09 22:16
MinceRbut this time "jesus" by found by a neural network :>Mar 09 22:16
MinceRs/by/was/Mar 09 22:16
schestowitzthat typo changed what I meant to sayMar 09 22:16
schestowitzb read=fleshMar 09 22:17
XRevan86"jesus-on-toast" – did someone try to train a neural network on one of those and then apply to photographs of toasts? :)Mar 09 22:17
schestowitzblood = wineMar 09 22:17
schestowitzif you drink enough of his blood the bread looks like himMar 09 22:17
XRevan86s/one of/lots of/Mar 09 22:17
MinceRhaven't checked yetMar 09 22:17
schestowitzesp. if you toast him'Mar 09 22:17
MinceRit might be difficult to avoid making it make pictures like "deep dreaming"Mar 09 22:18
schestowitzI never drank his 'blood' in churchMar 09 22:18
MinceRwhere every little bit of noise turns into a bubbling mess of jesiiMar 09 22:18
schestowitzit's not wise either now with viruses transmitted Mar 09 22:18
schestowitzRianne never drink the "blood" eitherMar 09 22:18
schestowitzfor health reasonsMar 09 22:18
schestowitzthey wipe itMar 09 22:18
XRevan86schestowitz: What? You don't want to drink the "strength" of all who drank it before thee? :)Mar 09 22:18
MinceRthen again, maybe an ANN would helpMar 09 22:18
MinceRs/ANN/GAN/Mar 09 22:19
schestowitzlike the siliva didn't already enter back with unconsumed 'blood' from the lipMar 09 22:19
schestowitzone might just the church does population control like thisMar 09 22:19
XRevan86schestowitz: Next thing you'll tell me you didn't kiss dried up body parts after thousands of other people.Mar 09 22:19
MinceRlol @ revising religious rituals to avoid the spread of virusesMar 09 22:19
MinceRand here i thought "God" was all-powerful...Mar 09 22:19
schestowitz[22:18] <XRevan86> schestowitz: What? You don't want to drink the "strength" of all who drank it before thee? :)Mar 09 22:19
schestowitzThat's like drinking the water in the JacuzziMar 09 22:20
XRevan86schestowitz: Probably worse actually.Mar 09 22:20
schestowitzsome shrine or temple here closed its bathing thing... 'pool'... whatever they call itMar 09 22:20
schestowitzfor risk of disease spreadingMar 09 22:20
schestowitzso much for 'faith'Mar 09 22:20
schestowitzand that evil evil science...Mar 09 22:20
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/rpOjQwE.jpg   vs   http://www.latinpost.com/articles/144018/20200307/iranian-citizens-lick-shrines-amid-coronavirus-outbreak-country.htmMar 09 22:21
MinceRwhich is worse? :>Mar 09 22:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.latinpost.com | Iranians Lick Holy Shrines to Defy Coronavirus : World : Latin Post - Latin news, immigration, politics, cultureMar 09 22:21
XRevan86Archpriest Dimitry Smirnov on TV a few days ago said that faith stopped plagues.Mar 09 22:21
XRevan86> and here i thought "God" was all-powerful...Mar 09 22:21
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XRevan86MinceR: There actually are people who do think that.Mar 09 22:21
MinceR"our religious mumbo-jumbo doesn't really work and we know it" vs "we'll die before we admit our religious mumbo-jumbo is worthless"Mar 09 22:22
DaemonFC[m]The good news is that the ones that thing God or Trump will help them won't bother taking any precautions. Mar 09 22:22
XRevan86https://www.infox.ru/photo/9fb/3b9/9fb3b9c8cf03e2c2f66c9238ea82bce3asdasdasd5c7d36a3c2c945.32524749-650x433-9fb3b9c8cf03e2c2f66c9238ea82bce3.jpg this bright faceMar 09 22:22
DaemonFC[m]Then they'll be the hardest hit.Mar 09 22:22
MinceRdoesn't look brightMar 09 22:22
DaemonFC[m]It'll bump off way more Trump voters than anyone else just because it's a virus that mostly kills people over 50.Mar 09 22:23
XRevan86The broadcast where he said that was recalled. At least the powers that be aren't insane enough to think that this is an okay message.Mar 09 22:23
DaemonFC[m]People who honestly believe in God and aren't just saying it because they live in a place where their neighbors will kill them deserve this.Mar 09 22:24
MinceR09 222128 < XRevan86> Archpriest Dimitry Smirnov on TV a few days ago said that faith stopped plagues.Mar 09 22:24
MinceRso did miklos kasler, minister of HR in hungary and alleged medical doctorMar 09 22:24
MinceRhe said people get sick because they don't obey the ten commandmentsMar 09 22:24
DaemonFC[m]I think of all the dumb shit I've heard it's that the Chinese engineered a virus ti destroy their own economy. Mar 09 22:25
XRevan86And he said that civil disobedience should be done when states try to go against faith, by closing down churches because of some deceasesMar 09 22:25
MinceRmaybe they engineered it to exterminate the people of hong kong to stop the riotsMar 09 22:25
MinceRmaybe they engineered it to exterminate the rest of us :>Mar 09 22:25
XRevan86they == batsMar 09 22:25
MinceRbatman is chinese?Mar 09 22:26
XRevan86Now only Batman can save us. As a diplomat.Mar 09 22:26
MinceR:>Mar 09 22:26
XRevan86Bugger, letsenhance.io requires registration, and I wanted to upload to it https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Martian_face_viking_cropped.jpgMar 09 22:29
MinceR:)Mar 09 22:30
MinceRhttp://bugmenot.com/view/letsenhance.ioMar 09 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-letsenhance.io passwords - BugMeNotMar 09 22:30
MinceRpretty low success rates thoughMar 09 22:30
XRevan86MinceR: Yea, they're dead.Mar 09 22:30
roy-at-tedhttp://bugmenot.com/view/yahoo.comMar 09 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yahoo.com passwords - BugMeNotMar 09 22:32
roy-at-ted"Mar 09 22:32
roy-at-tedyahoo.com loginsMar 09 22:32
roy-at-tedThis site has been barred from the bugmenot system.Mar 09 22:32
roy-at-ted"Mar 09 22:32
roy-at-tedI didn't know about this siteMar 09 22:32
roy-at-tedI only heard pf itMar 09 22:32
roy-at-teddidn't know what it was forMar 09 22:32
roy-at-ted XRevan86 as if the form of like we want i n Mars isMar 09 22:33
roy-at-ted1) humanMar 09 22:33
roy-at-ted2) fake onlyMar 09 22:33
roy-at-ted3) not movingMar 09 22:33
roy-at-ted4) giantMar 09 22:33
roy-at-ted5) face upMar 09 22:33
XRevan86There's also loginz.org :)Mar 09 22:33
roy-at-tednever underestimate people's will "to believe"Mar 09 22:33
XRevan86which has a benefit of being much less knownMar 09 22:33
roy-at-tedsome still don't believe in space, they believe there's "heaven up above" and hell "down under"Mar 09 22:34
roy-at-tedcoz babble-bibbel saysMar 09 22:34
XRevan86schestowitz: At least Mars is not made of cheese, it's lasagna.Mar 09 22:34
roy-at-tedso there's life thereMar 09 22:34
roy-at-tedmilk and beefMar 09 22:34
MinceRlolMar 09 22:34
MinceRroy-at-ted: don't forget "the four corners of the earth"Mar 09 22:35
roy-at-tedmaybe we can use it as a remote slaughterhouse with space elevator that somehow takes account of planets going 'round the sun and spin against their axisMar 09 22:35
roy-at-tedheck, imagine connecting planets with tunnelsMar 09 22:35
roy-at-tedthe idea is laughable, we can't even do that with our own moonMar 09 22:35
roy-at-tedGod likes 3 cornersMar 09 22:36
XRevan86The idea isn't even laughableMar 09 22:36
roy-at-tednot pentagonsMar 09 22:36
roy-at-tedwe're a floating triangleMar 09 22:36
XRevan86because "laughable" need at least a millisecond of considerationMar 09 22:36
MinceRsound hereticalMar 09 22:36
MinceRhopefully none of the commissars are lookingMar 09 22:37
MinceRor the inquisitorsMar 09 22:37
XRevan86roy-at-ted: With an eye at the centre.Mar 09 22:37
roy-at-tedoh yesMar 09 22:37
roy-at-tedthe one from marsMar 09 22:37
roy-at-tedeye + chin + foreheadMar 09 22:38
roy-at-tedwhen the sun rises anywayMar 09 22:38
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19112210Mar 09 22:45
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.zdnet.com/article/brave-to-generate-random-browser-fingerprints-to-preserve-user-privacy/Mar 09 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Brave to generate random browser fingerprints to preserve user privacy | ZDNetMar 09 23:07
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DaemonFC[m]<roy-at-ted "so there's life there"> Is there life on Mars?Mar 09 23:09
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MinceRhttps://66.media.tumblr.com/26ce545af628b1ef54d5aac33284bda1/tumblr_p59kp2ltpL1srjwkeo1_640.jpgMar 09 23:28
*XRevan86 watches a video from 2015: https://youtu.be/JEYh5WACqEk . It looks like something crafted to address COVID-19, kind of.Mar 09 23:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Americapox: The Missing Plague - YouTubeMar 09 23:28
DaemonFC[m]I think the media is still downplaying coronavirus. Mar 09 23:35
DaemonFC[m]They seem to be about 3 or 4 days late in admitting what already happened.Mar 09 23:36
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Some media does the opposite. We're all going to die! It's 2012 all over again!Mar 09 23:37
DaemonFC[m]They were still talking about containment as of 600 confirmed casee in 40 states.Mar 09 23:37
XRevan86The last number I saw in Russian media is 20 people. With words like "everyone whom they contacted were checked"Mar 09 23:38
XRevan86So, they contacted people. Well, something tells me it's on.Mar 09 23:38
DaemonFC[m]They're just making things worse by not admitting how bad things are. This is almost the 1918 flu all over again when Presidential Wilson threatened newspapers that didn't report that it was a mild flu with the Sedition Act.Mar 09 23:38
DaemonFC[m]It went from containment to pandemic somehow in about 1 day.Mar 09 23:39
DaemonFC[m]*President Mar 09 23:39
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