●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, April 09, 2022 ●● ● Apr 09 [00:00] HMS SMART CURTAINS use BSB? [00:00] bnchs HMS: yes and is there an ISO without nvidia drivers [00:00] bnchs in case you don't agree with their EULA [00:00] kingoffrance MinceR, whats the difference between a "state" and "nation" and "people" ? it just reads "abolish all people" [00:00] TR News Go further. Delete WINDOWS, too. Neither ever defended anything except Microsoft and the NSA. https://www.maketecheasier.com/permanently-disable-windows-defender-windows-10/ see http://techrights.org/2021/12/06/microsoft-defender/ [00:00] TR Bot How to Permanently Disable Windows Defender in Windows - Make Tech Easier [00:00] TR Bot Microsoft Defender Pretender Attacks Random Software That Uses NSIS for installation; Super Duper Secure Mode for Edge is a Laugh | Techrights [00:00] XRevan86 MinceR: Biely-Siniy-Biely and Biely-Chervony-Biely [00:01] MinceR :) [00:01] MinceR kingoffrance: state is an organization for the oppression of people; nation is an excuse to unite a bunch of people to make them gang up on another bunch of people for the benefit of the former group's oppressors [00:01] MinceR kingoffrance: people is the plural of person [00:01] HMS don't agree with any their EULA i just press next [00:02] kingoffrance sure, so how does abolish "states" or "nations" get rid of that? people will just do that again [00:02] kingoffrance as they did the first time [00:02] kingoffrance it is just a change of people, nothing more [00:02] kingoffrance *change of oppressors [00:03] MinceR people will need to stop believing that it is right for some people to own/rule other people [00:03] MinceR that notion has to go [00:03] kingoffrance there goes parenthood [00:03] MinceR do parents own someone? [00:03] kingoffrance who is responsible for children? [00:03] MinceR if that is what parenthood means, then yes, parenthood needs to go too [00:03] MinceR it's shared responsibility [00:03] XRevan86 MinceR: That's a bit of an overkill. [00:03] kingoffrance oh, so shared ownership [00:03] MinceR no, that's not ownership [00:04] kingoffrance because its shared? [00:04] MinceR the only one who should own a particular person is that person [00:04] HMS shared responsibility [00:04] kingoffrance so where is the line between own and responsibility? [00:04] HMS that what MinceR typed [00:04] kingoffrance yes, and its nonsense [00:04] kingoffrance responsibility is based on ownership [00:05] MinceR it's a pretty thick line [00:05] MinceR no, it is not [00:05] kingoffrance oh really? [00:05] XRevan86 I for one would rather focus on dictators than on parenthood. [00:06] MinceR so would i [00:06] MinceR but kingoffrance wants to sire children and own them [00:06] kingoffrance "the only one who should own a particular person is that person" so i pop out 20 kids and they all grow up murderers. where is the responsiblity here? who is resposnible? [00:06] DaemonFC One way to play through Fallout games is by making your character really stupid. It frees up points to use on other attributes and leads to funny dialog. [00:06] MinceR being responsible for the wellbeing of your kids is not the same as being entitled to tell your kids what to do 24/7, until they die [00:07] kingoffrance noone claimed that [00:07] XRevan86 Dictators. Parents. Fallout. [00:07] kingoffrance lol [00:07] MinceR that's what owning people means [00:07] kingoffrance thats what you caricature means [00:07] MinceR it's slavery [00:07] DaemonFC MinceR, I see Orban's party got two-thirds of the seats with about half the vote. [00:07] HMS better lucky then smart [00:07] DaemonFC Democracy! [00:07] MinceR but yeah, i know that slavery is "hip" and "cool" and "modern" and "edgy" and "based" now [00:07] DaemonFC I'd recognize it anywhere! [00:07] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Oh, did they learn from Russia? [00:08] MinceR DaemonFC: yeah, they wrote the rules so it does that [00:08] DaemonFC Or Indiana. [00:08] kingoffrance if responsibility is not based on ownership, then how is responsibility distributed? [00:08] XRevan86 MinceR: So, I have a question :) [00:08] MinceR DaemonFC: last time they got 2/3 of the seats with something like 48.5% of the votes [00:08] MinceR so they didn't even have a majority and their rules turned it into a supermajority [00:08] DaemonFC Well, they set a 5% threshold to get any seats at all. [00:08] kingoffrance your scheme has implicit "someone owns everything and allocates responsibility" [00:08] MinceR kingoffrance: typically both parents and the child itself would be responsible for the child [00:09] kingoffrance but thats not ownership? [00:09] DaemonFC So a bunch of minor parties can come along ang get tens of thousands of votes and no seats. [00:09] MinceR no, my scheme has implicit "everyone owns themselves" [00:09] DaemonFC That helps a bit. [00:09] MinceR s/im/ex/ [00:09] XRevan86 MinceR: Does Hungary have a system where when a small party doesn't have enough of a percentage their percentage will be shared between the passing parties relative to their percentages? [00:09] MinceR XRevan86: something like that [00:09] XRevan86 MinceR: Learnt from the best. [00:09] MinceR this percentage threshold bullshit seems to be popular [00:10] kingoffrance lets ask this then: do people own what they create? [00:10] DaemonFC Oh it's even better in some US states. [00:10] XRevan86 That's one of the mechanisms that United Russia used to dominate. [00:10] kingoffrance because its either parents made a child or "god" did [00:10] DaemonFC To maintain ballot access, you have to get enough votes in the previous election. [00:10] DaemonFC Or your party reverts to "write in" candidates. [00:10] MinceR kingoffrance: reproduction is not creation [00:10] MinceR kingoffrance: seriously, it's not a challenging thing to do [00:10] XRevan86 MinceR: I predict Hungary a great future if it ever decides to secede. [00:10] MinceR even bacteria can do it [00:10] MinceR hell, even fideath voters can do it [00:11] DaemonFC The illusion that someone who isn't a Democrat or Republican could win is important. [00:11] MinceR XRevan86: i don't see much of a future for hungary [00:11] kingoffrance sure, we are estabilish title/ownership -- so "God" owns everything in your system, only they can "create" anything [00:11] XRevan86 MinceR: A special military operation to de-Nazi-fy Finland maybe. [00:11] MinceR especially if orban keeps supporting putler [00:11] DaemonFC It lets them say you have options and third party candidates just lose because nobody likes them. [00:11] XRevan86 MinceR: Ye misunderstood. [00:11] *alextee (~alextee@kzh7t76mzn7gu.irc) has joined #techrights [00:11] MinceR kingoffrance: there is no "God" in my system [00:12] MinceR actual property can be owned by whoever [00:12] DaemonFC Lisa Murkowski was the first Senator to win a seat in a write in campaign in almost a century after the Republicans rigged the system to primary her. [00:12] MinceR people can be owned by themselves and nobody else [00:12] MinceR PII can be owned the people it's about [00:12] kingoffrance ok, what rights do people have? and are those property they own or not? [00:12] MinceR other information can't be owned [00:12] kingoffrance since there is no state, who allocates "rights" [00:12] DaemonFC Then instead of taking revenge by just declaring she was an Independent Senator and refusing to vote them into the majority, she acted like nothing had happened and rejoined them. [00:12] MinceR you don't need a state to have rights [00:13] kingoffrance sure, but didnt answer my question [00:13] MinceR this has been discussed to great depth already [00:13] MinceR i can't give you an exhaustive list of human rights [00:13] kingoffrance ok, so a gang of oppressors decided what "rights" people have, same as prior system, but this one is not a "state" [00:13] DaemonFC MinceR, I'd just become an Independent Senator and refuse to vote for Leadership for the rest of the time I was in there. [00:13] kingoffrance its just bait and switch word games [00:14] MinceR kingoffrance: pretty sure it was not a gang of oppressors [00:14] kingoffrance theres no state, so who decides who is an "oppressor" or not? [00:14] DaemonFC They don't want her there because she votes for the Democrat bills about 40% of the time. [00:14] MinceR how would having a state help decide that anyway? [00:15] DaemonFC The state has to pass laws saying what you can do. [00:15] kingoffrance it just sounds like a theocracy. only "god" can create things (but we wont call it "god"). some random group of random people decide what rights you have, but you cant see them [00:15] DaemonFC That way you have rights. [00:15] DaemonFC How would you have those rights if there wasn't anything stopping you in the first place? [00:15] DaemonFC For God's sake, get some perspective, man. [00:16] MinceR kingoffrance: you're the one going on about "god" [00:16] DaemonFC We need the state to give us rights it took away to begin with. [00:16] kingoffrance MinceR, youre the one who said people cannot create anything [00:16] MinceR and how would you even see rights? [00:16] MinceR no, i didn't say that [00:16] MinceR i said that reproduction isn't creation [00:16] *alextee has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:16] kingoffrance ok, so what is and isnt creation? [00:16] MinceR go read a dictionary [00:16] kingoffrance i build a house -- reproductino or creation? [00:16] *alextee (~alextee@t48ica27td84g.irc) has joined #techrights [00:17] kingoffrance your system is like rust -- unspecified moving target [00:17] kingoffrance the only standard is in your head [00:17] kingoffrance "god" lol [00:17] MinceR sorry, if you don't even know what reproduction is, i don't think we can have a real debate about the state [00:18] kingoffrance if you dont know what "state" means likewise [00:18] TR News Linux on Mobile - Weekly Update (14/2022): Maui Shell Alpha, Mobian goes Tow-Boot, Suspend on the Librem 5 and AVMultiPhone is back! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163523 [00:18] TR Bot Linux on Mobile - Weekly Update (14/2022): Maui Shell Alpha, Mobian goes Tow-Boot, Suspend on the Librem 5 and AVMultiPhone is back! | Tux Machines [00:18] kingoffrance or "nation" [00:18] kingoffrance or "person" for that matter [00:27] kingoffrance a person is a persona. you implicitly already went "religious" by claiming people have souls and are just personas [00:28] bnchs uhhh what ahppened [00:29] kingoffrance confusion of tongues, same as always [00:29] kingoffrance why there will never be any "law" [00:32] kingoffrance the other question this doesnt deal with: which personas are allowed? this determines who has what rights [00:32] kingoffrance we already went beyond 'human rights" because you were discussing "parents" and "children" [00:33] kingoffrance so "human rights" does not cover everything, there are other "personas" besides "human" [00:36] TR News Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163524 [00:36] TR Bot Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:37] kingoffrance so, the only remaining thing to do is enumerate all the types of "persons" and "titles" for this feudalistic system [00:37] TR News "EVGA said it only received about two dozen dead RTX 3090s that has failed from playing the New World beta. EVGA sent replacement RTX 3090s to affected gamers after the story broke, and didn't wait for the failed cards to be returned first," gemini://galaxyhub.uk/articles/evga-3090s.gmi [00:38] bnchs lol [00:38] bnchs imagine having a game so unoptimized [00:38] bnchs that it straight out fries GPUs [00:38] TR News PostgreSQL: pgAdmin 4 v6.8 Released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163525 [00:38] TR Bot PostgreSQL: pgAdmin 4 v6.8 Released | Tux Machines [00:39] HMS GPUs without good cooling [00:39] HMS they are supposed to last 1 years [00:40] bnchs oh your GPU got fried because of my game [00:40] bnchs just buy a new GPU dumbass [00:40] HMS https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/rtby98/rtx_3080ti_copper_mod_temps_dropped_from_88c_to/ [00:40] TR Bot RTX 3080Ti copper mod temps dropped from 88C to 70C : nvidia [00:42] HMS maybe some copper plates are more expensive that silicon [00:43] TR News EndeavourOS Apollo brings massive improvements to the Calamares installer and introduces a new X11-based window manager. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163515#comment-33310 [00:43] TR Bot EndeavourOS Apollo Lands with Worm WM, Improved Installation Experience, and More | Tux Machines [00:43] HMS https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/rzfmdk/update_3080ti_copper_mod_ver_20/ [00:43] TR Bot [Update] 3080Ti Copper Mod Ver 2.0 : nvidia [00:45] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@tmzhhtr3nc372.irc) has joined #techrights [00:45] MinceR imagine a gpu so poorly designed that it burns itself [00:46] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:46] bnchs__ thats nvidia for you [00:46] bnchs__ gpu poorly designed, they cause housefires [00:49] HMS https://www.tomshardware.com/news/miniature-windows-on-arm-desktop-launched [00:49] TR Bot Mini Windows on Arm Desktop PC Launches at $229 | Tom's Hardware [00:50] HMS One of the unit's main features is an integrated 4G modem [00:50] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:50] HMS MS is droping x86 ! [00:51] DaemonFC I call it x86-32. [00:52] *bnchs (~bnchs@26z5z5hkszp4n.irc) has joined #techrights [00:52] DaemonFC Most people call it IA-32 where there's a distinction, but then they call AMD64 "x86-64" or worse, "x64". [00:52] TR News Data Crow and OpenDocMan in Review Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163526 [00:52] TR Bot Data Crow and OpenDocMan in Review | Tux Machines [00:52] kingoffrance https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights the only known "human rights" involve "states" and "nations" [00:52] TR Bot Universal Declaration of Human Rights | United Nations [00:52] HMS There is a catch, though, as noted by Liliputing. While the system comes with Windows 11 pre-installed, that version of the OS is not licensed [00:53] DaemonFC So to avoide awkwardness, I say x86-32 and x86-64. [00:53] kingoffrance These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations. [00:53] DaemonFC That way we know, it's x86, and 32-bit or 64-bit x86. [00:53] kingoffrance so yet to see any "stateless" "nationless" "consent of the governed" version of "human rights" [00:53] HMS but can it run linux? [00:53] kingoffrance just another "gang of oppressors" [00:54] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@w2hrvt7ndnmji.irc) has joined #techrights [00:56] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:56] kingoffrance Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs <-- and we see "persons" belong to countries or territories [00:56] kingoffrance there are no "stateless" persons, does not exist [00:57] kingoffrance thank you, good night [00:57] kingoffrance brotherhood of man too, is the state religion for this scheme [00:58] schestowitz-TR brotherhood of man? [00:58] schestowitz-TR "kisses for me?" [00:58] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 35.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 40.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 441.18 [00:59] kingoffrance lol [00:59] *bnchs (~bnchs@jmxxg2sppxaww.irc) has joined #techrights [00:59] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OW1JJwqVRQ [00:59] TR Bot https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=6OW1JJwqVRQ [00:59] TR Bot invidious.namazso.eu | Brotherhood Of Man - Save Your Kisses For Me TopPop - Invidious ● Apr 09 [01:02] MinceR ah yes, "state religion" is very applicable to something with no state nor religion [01:03] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@zrz88yc7amxdc.irc) has joined #techrights [01:04] HMS NEW KERNAL! [01:04] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:05] MinceR c64? [01:05] HMS 5.15.33 [01:05] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163527 [01:05] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:05] schestowitz-TR KER NAL pointer [01:06] HMS i hope it fix the reboot instead of shutsown thing [01:07] HMS i type poweroff and the stupid thing reboots instead [01:08] *HMS has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [01:09] TR News Games: War Thunder and HYPERCHARGE: Unboxed Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163528 [01:09] TR Bot Games: War Thunder and HYPERCHARGE: Unboxed | Tux Machines [01:10] kingoffrance MinceR, so do you have some other "human rights" that has stateless persons, and does not require everyone be of the same "father god" ? [01:10] kingoffrance you have yet to present any evidence for your scheme [01:12] TR News Links 08/04/2022: EndeavourOS Apollo and Wine 7.6 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/endeavouros-apollo/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/08/endeavouros-apollo/ [01:12] TR Bot Links 08/04/2022: EndeavourOS Apollo and Wine 7.6 | Techrights [01:13] MinceR kingoffrance: sorry, i don't have time for your trolling [01:15] bnchs__ schestowitz-TR, i'll tell you something [01:15] bnchs__ did you know that smart TVs are hardcoded to listen on bluetooth [01:15] bnchs__ and there's no setting to disable it [01:15] schestowitz-TR yeah [01:16] schestowitz-TR worse [01:16] schestowitz-TR it's worse than you know [01:16] schestowitz-TR Vault 7 shows some exploits (not code) for the Samsung ones [01:16] schestowitz-TR the basic requirments are not steep [01:16] kingoffrance MinceR, so your law is a religion in your head, got it [01:17] bnchs__ i mean it's a security risk [01:17] bnchs__ the TV is always publicly listening on bluetooth [01:17] bnchs__ even when it's "off" [01:17] bnchs__ the only way is to pull the plug [01:17] psydruid a tablet is a large smartphone and a smart TV is a huge smartphone [01:18] schestowitz-TR bnchs__: even them [01:18] psydruid everything is becoming a smartphone [01:18] schestowitz-TR 1) it can run on capacitor perhaps [01:18] schestowitz-TR maybe future models [01:18] schestowitz-TR 2) it has access to microsoft [01:18] schestowitz-TR 3) it has sorage capacity, so can record while offline, transmit later [01:18] schestowitz-TR 4) the software can be modified remoately just for you [01:19] schestowitz-TR in case of you being "person of interest"; you would not even know [01:19] schestowitz-TR typo [01:19] schestowitz-TR I means microphone, not micosoft [01:19] bnchs__ my dad buys shit like smart TVs [01:19] schestowitz-TR in the future we can call the company MicroPhone [01:19] bnchs__ even after knowing that it's full of buzzwords [01:19] schestowitz-TR because it phones home [01:19] schestowitz-TR afaik, "cortana" is dying [01:20] schestowitz-TR they failed against amazon, gulag, and rotten [01:20] schestowitz-TR so sort of pull the plug [01:21] schestowitz-TR psydruid: [01:21] schestowitz-TR [01:18] everything is becoming a smartphone [01:21] schestowitz-TR we discussed this hours ago [01:21] schestowitz-TR it's an archetype for them [01:21] schestowitz-TR "sideloading" [01:21] schestowitz-TR like, on your laptop too [01:21] schestowitz-TR "sigstore" [01:21] bnchs__ "sideloading" [01:21] schestowitz-TR and they see how far they can get with bad agenda [01:21] bnchs__ schestowitz-TR, did you know [01:21] bnchs__ LG smart TVs are easily crackable [01:21] schestowitz-TR but we must push back [01:21] schestowitz-TR our arguments are vastly better [01:22] bnchs__ no seriously [01:22] schestowitz-TR we don't have marketing budget [01:22] bnchs__ you can get cracked with just one website [01:22] bnchs__ a rootkit installed [01:22] schestowitz-TR but some companies can benefit from being "countercorruent" to that [01:22] schestowitz-TR like a car company which advertises, "we are NOT smart" [01:22] schestowitz-TR "our car does NOT track you" [01:22] bnchs__ and the problem is most of the smart TVs are connected to the internet [01:22] bnchs__ so a smart TV is a black box [01:22] bnchs__ and a security nightmare [01:23] schestowitz-TR those can sell well and they can advertise by cautioning about what OTHER cars do [01:23] schestowitz-TR all moden TVs are blackboxes/denyboxes [01:23] schestowitz-TR even decades-old TVs [01:23] bnchs__ yes [01:23] schestowitz-TR but the current ones are worse [01:23] schestowitz-TR because they can remoately modify them [01:23] bnchs__ decade old TVs didn't connect to the internet [01:23] schestowitz-TR even "just for you" [01:23] bnchs__ and turned off when you turn it off [01:23] bnchs__ but the current ones are security nightmare [01:24] schestowitz-TR you can barelyt reverse0-engineer them, [01:24] schestowitz-TR even self-gratifying tinkerers like mjg59_ [01:24] schestowitz-TR because they're too complex [01:24] schestowitz-TR too many moving parts [01:24] schestowitz-TR so you're never too sure what those encrypted packkets the TV sends overnight actually have in them [01:24] schestowitz-TR microphone recordings? [01:24] schestowitz-TR cam footage? [01:24] schestowitz-TR God knows! [01:25] bnchs__ the problem is [01:25] schestowitz-TR and maybe they ship you an update that does both 24/7 [01:25] bnchs__ decades old dumb TVs can't do shit [01:25] bnchs__ other than show something on the screen [01:25] bnchs__ and thats it [01:25] schestowitz-TR and when you try to prove it the TV suddenly falls back onto older firmware [01:25] schestowitz-TR to hide what it did [01:25] bnchs__ current TVs are security blackholes [01:25] schestowitz-TR covering up [01:25] bnchs__ security blackboxes* [01:26] schestowitz-TR "bitch please!!! DENYboxes" [01:26] bnchs__ tbh my room has a dumb tv connected to a satellite decoder box [01:26] schestowitz-TR this is NOT a statement against tech BTW [01:27] schestowitz-TR that would be a straw man [01:27] schestowitz-TR I am surreounded by 5 webcams at the moment [01:27] schestowitz-TR but all except two are covered in tape [01:27] schestowitz-TR the ones I do not use [01:27] bnchs__ i always hated smart TVs from day one [01:28] schestowitz-TR here isa trick question [01:28] schestowitz-TR what was the first smart tv? [01:28] schestowitz-TR or [01:28] schestowitz-TR when did it start? [01:28] schestowitz-TR (spoiler: it's just a buzzword, same for "phones") [01:28] bnchs__ samsung? [01:29] schestowitz-TR clown computing also [01:29] schestowitz-TR those are neblous terms [01:29] schestowitz-TR like DevOps [01:29] schestowitz-TR nobody can even consistently defne them [01:29] schestowitz-TR I was tol [01:29] schestowitz-TR hypePhone was first smartphonew [01:29] schestowitz-TR why? [01:29] schestowitz-TR you could add software to it [01:29] schestowitz-TR but PalmOS could do this way before 2007 [01:30] schestowitz-TR so we sadly exist in an industry now dominated by bullish, marketing, and revisionism [01:30] schestowitz-TR which are all of the same [01:30] schestowitz-TR my stance [01:30] schestowitz-TR reject the buzzwords [01:31] schestowitz-TR either slant them [01:31] schestowitz-TR with humour [01:31] schestowitz-TR or bypass them with clearer explanation of what goes on [01:31] schestowitz-TR MinceR says crApp iirc [01:31] schestowitz-TR I think that's grand [01:31] schestowitz-TR because a lots of software was a lot better [01:31] schestowitz-TR than it turned into crap [01:31] schestowitz-TR and then crApp [01:32] schestowitz-TR same but with hardly any options, no keyboard, no mouse, just back button [01:32] schestowitz-TR and they call that progress [01:32] schestowitz-TR we did some memes about that [01:33] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/7-screen-laptop.jpg [01:33] schestowitz expensive [01:33] schestowitz phoronix: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/phoronix-setup.jpg [01:34] schestowitz My older setup http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/techrights-desk.jpg [01:35] schestowitz you cannot get much done with a "crApp" [01:38] TR News Dirk Eddelbuettel: RcppEigen 0.3.3.9.2 on CRAN: Maintenance http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/04/08#rcppeigen_0.3.3.9.2 [01:38] TR Bot Thinking inside the box [01:39] schestowitz-TR to figure out what "smart" TVs really do we need eithger [01:39] schestowitz-TR 1) whistleblower [01:39] schestowitz-TR 2) seecurity breach [01:39] kingoffrance https://www.unhcr.org/en-us/un-conventions-on-statelessness.html here's a good one. "human rights" include a "right to a nationality" even under un-speak [01:39] Alternative link CloudFlare: unhcr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.unhcr.org/en-us/un-conventions-on-statelessness.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.unhcr.org/en-us/un-conventions-on-statelessness.html [01:39] TR Bot UNHCR- UN Conventions on Statelessness [01:39] schestowitz-TR either way, leaks info on what the TV side and server side are really doing [01:39] kingoffrance so MinceR does some "human rights" when he feels like it [01:40] kingoffrance flip a coin to see which ones he honours [01:40] TR News You are Tracked Online -How To Avoid Being Tracked Online - Linux ... https://linuxsecurity.com/features/how-to-avoid-being-tracked-online Source: linuxsecurity [01:40] Alternative link CloudFlare: linuxsecurity.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxsecurity.com/features/how-to-avoid-being-tracked-online https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxsecurity.com/features/how-to-avoid-being-tracked-online [01:40] TR Bot You are Tracked Online - How To Avoid Being Tracked Online - Linux ... [01:41] TR News Even ICBM Red Hat employees don't use Red Hat OSes! "Our base operating system for this install is Ubuntu 20.04." http://adam.younglogic.com/2022/04/bifrost-spike-on-an-ampere-altramax/ [01:41] TR Bot Bifrost Spike on an Ampere AltraMax | Adam Youngs Web Log [01:42] schestowitz-TR if someone has spare time [01:42] schestowitz-TR issue worth investigating: [01:42] schestowitz-TR what army/gov contracts ICBM (IBM) has: [01:42] schestowitz-TR pertaining to nuclear simulations [01:42] schestowitz-TR the HPC stuff [01:43] schestowitz-TR and to arsenal of nukes [01:43] schestowitz-TR inc. inventories and on-missile systems [01:43] schestowitz-TR obv. those are not widely advertised [01:43] schestowitz-TR quite confidential [01:43] schestowitz-TR they still used floppy disks 3 years ago [01:43] MinceR it must suck for kingoffrance to live in an alternative universe where the enlightenment never happened [01:43] schestowitz-TR the very very large floppies [01:43] schestowitz-TR if you can find info, share here [01:43] schestowitz-TR the term "ICBM" goes a long way for IBM... [01:44] schestowitz-TR MinceR: he and activelow speak a lot of religion [01:44] schestowitz-TR activelow tends to make some stuff up [01:45] kingoffrance i dont deny enlightenment. that is why i dont believe in masonry "brotherhood of man" or UN or trump state religion [01:45] kingoffrance bait and switch is not enlightenment [01:45] schestowitz-TR UN is very inconsistent [01:45] kingoffrance neither is novus ordo seclorum [01:45] schestowitz-TR it's like a disabled little brother [01:45] schestowitz-TR you don't bash it too much [01:45] schestowitz-TR but you do not take it so seriously either [01:45] schestowitz-TR UN gave us WIPO [01:45] kingoffrance well i see stateless persons have less "human rights" than people with "nationality" [01:46] schestowitz-TR and WHO controlled by corrupting forces [01:46] kingoffrance so MinceR is offering you the lessser "human rights" [01:46] schestowitz-TR when I see .int domain I go, "OK, what does Saudi Arabia and 'other nation' tell us?" [01:46] schestowitz-TR kingoffrance: it's not a privilege [01:46] schestowitz-TR being a member of some nations is bad karma [01:47] schestowitz-TR and a stain on one's forehead [01:47] kingoffrance fair, but he has yet to show any "human rights" definition he goes by [01:47] schestowitz-TR they might be better off stateless [01:47] schestowitz-TR it would also help asylum application [01:47] kingoffrance if not "universal declaration" then where are those supposed "human rights" ? [01:47] schestowitz-TR tbh, MinceR should be somewhere better [01:48] schestowitz-TR .hu has been drained out of what was there in the age of the austria-hungary alliance [01:48] MinceR i haven't written my own formalized declaration of human rights [01:48] schestowitz-TR it used to be a very powerful nation [01:48] kingoffrance ok, thank you [01:48] schestowitz-TR now it's like a jester to the EU [01:48] schestowitz-TR and to Putin [01:48] MinceR if i had done that, i'm sure it would miss some important elements [01:48] schestowitz-TR nazi germany renderede many people stateless [01:48] schestowitz-TR un came after that [01:49] schestowitz-TR maybe with insights gathered from 50+ million dead humans [01:49] *schestowitz-TR checks how many hungarians died in the way [01:50] schestowitz 200k [01:50] schestowitz according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties [01:50] TR Bot World War II casualties - Wikipedia [01:50] kingoffrance funny somewhere still does maxims https://law.justia.com/codes/california/2010/civ/3509-3548.html That which does not appear to exist is to be regarded as if it did not exist well i'm glad we reached an understanding [01:50] TR Bot Part 4. Maxims Of Jurisprudence :: Civil Code :: 2010 California Code :: California Code :: US Codes and Statutes :: US Law :: Justia [01:50] schestowitz that's just military [01:50] schestowitz about half a million otherwise [01:51] schestowitz so about 5% of the nation's population [01:51] activelow nation states with a constitution are a modern advancement; preceeding Nazi germany and the Russian Revolution it was almost always feudalist ruling supported by the church [01:51] activelow that's why the argument "nazi germany renderede many people stateless" is not plausible [01:52] schestowitz Tmas Stark. Hungary's Human Losses in World War II. Uppsala Univ. 1995 ISBN 91-86624-21-0 p.59 [01:52] kingoffrance enlightenment is also a major reason i dont trust sov citizens, they want 10 commandments and the trucker rebellion too apparently. bait and switch [01:55] activelow btw. the concept of "Nation Building" is associated with Carl Schmitt - _the_ leading Nazi lawyer [01:55] kingoffrance lol interesting [01:55] TR News Fully awful system. Nobody in the world envies the US tax system and health [sic] care [sic] system https://www.marketwatch.com/story/an-estimated-70-of-taxpayers-could-file-their-taxes-for-free-but-far-fewer-do-heres-why-11649198684 [01:55] TR Bot already paid last week': An estimated 70% of taxpayers could get free tax prep, but far fewer do. Here's why. - MarketWatch [01:56] schestowitz-TR activelow: well, they only destroyed nations [01:56] schestowitz-TR inc. their own at the end [01:56] schestowitz-TR berlin in rubble [01:57] activelow destroyed when? i consider the final stroke being 1990 and the "re-unification" [01:57] activelow preceeding this cornerstone of history, germany at least retained it's currency, the Pfennig and the Mark [01:57] schestowitz-TR you oppose that, don't you? [01:57] schestowitz-TR you want east germany back [01:57] schestowitz-TR and east berlin [01:57] activelow no, i say "re-unification" is a misnomer, a propganda lie [01:57] activelow it never has been a "re-unification" [01:58] schestowitz-TR korea need to sort something out too [01:58] schestowitz-TR their war never officially ended [01:58] activelow i won't comment on Korea, because i do _not_ know anything about their own _internal_ affairs [01:58] TR News Foxconn https://www.electronicdesign.com/markets/automotive/article/21238570/electronic-design-a-hot-new-challenger-takes-on-ev-makers [01:58] Alternative link CloudFlare: electronicdesign.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.electronicdesign.com/markets/automotive/article/21238570/electronic-design-a-hot-new-challenger-takes-on-ev-makers https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.electronicdesign.com/markets/automotive/article/21238570/electronic-design-a-hot-new-challenger-takes-on-ev-makers [01:58] TR Bot A Hot New Challenger Takes on EV Makers | Electronic Design [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 42.15 k/sec., IPFS upstream 98.36 average k/sec., average swarm size 318.45 [01:59] schestowitz-TR US took one side, along with UN and allies [01:59] schestowitz-TR china and soviets took another [01:59] schestowitz-TR ended up with dmz [01:59] schestowitz-TR after japan fell ● Apr 09 [02:00] TR News There's hardly such a thing sadly. Pink unicorns. We need to use less energy. There needs to be less of "we". https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/energy-markets/a-deeper-dive-into-24-7-carbon-free-energy [02:00] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/energy-markets/a-deeper-dive-into-24-7-carbon-free-energy ) [02:00] Alternative link CloudFlare: canarymedia.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/energy-markets/a-deeper-dive-into-24-7-carbon-free-energy https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.canarymedia.com/articles/energy-markets/a-deeper-dive-into-24-7-carbon-free-energy [02:01] *matey (~matey@u6e4grxkxibun.irc) has joined #techrights [02:03] kingoffrance "That which does not appear to exist is to be regarded as if it did not exist " that is one of the greatest maxims, because it rules out "ineffable" "god" and any 2nd coming (hasnt arrived yet) [02:03] matey "Linux is granted until the boomers die. The next generation of programmers won't touch the Linux kernel because of GPL. I guess this is the biggest problem with GNU/Linux. You can't change it because then you've to ask all developers who introduced changes to the Linux kernel." [02:03] matey or... [02:03] TR News Serial GPL violator VMware is trying to 'lecture' us on copyleft just months after starting an anti-Linux FUD campaign https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/VMWARE-INC-58476/news/VMware-Open-Source-License-Compliance-and-Why-It-Matters-39983970/ see http://techrights.org/2022/02/13/vmware-epic-fud/ [02:03] TR Bot : Open Source License Compliance and Why It Matters | MarketScreener [02:03] TR Bot Latest Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) Patterns Against Linux (the Real Issue is Proprietary Software) | Techrights [02:03] matey only people who give a shit about you being able to reuse the code can fuck with it (which doesnt eliminate, but it cuts down on the number of people fucking with it) [02:04] matey of course theres another way to do this too: make the kernel too tight for fuckers to want anything to do with it [02:04] matey and then dont support whatever shit they want to do with it [02:04] matey theres no law that says you have to accept kernel patches you dont want [02:04] TR News VMware became so malicious this past year that even Dirk Hondahl, their damage-controlling spinner, resigned http://techrights.org/wiki/VMware [02:04] TR Bot VMware - Techrights [02:05] matey "The next generation of programmers won't touch the Linux kernel because of GPL" <- that isnt why [02:05] matey the next generation of programmers wont bother with linux because it will be unusable [02:06] matey because of fuckery by the same people who said they wouldnt touch it because gpl [02:06] kingoffrance when ppl start making "generation" based arguments i kind of tune out lol [02:06] schestowitz-TR matey: but rust !! [02:06] matey when ppl start making "generation" based arguments i kind of tune out lol <- every generation makes the same ones [02:06] kingoffrance :) [02:06] matey but rust !! <- that why it wont be usable [02:07] kingoffrance it tells me they probably dont have a good reason [02:07] schestowitz-TR install 400mb of garbage [02:07] schestowitz-TR just to get started [02:07] TR News Raspberry Pi OS updated based on Debian Bullseye http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163489#comment-33311 [02:07] TR Bot Raspberry Pi OS removes default "Pi" username, adds experimental support for Wayland | Tux Machines [02:07] matey /me loves the quote from plato where he talks about "the youth of today" and it could have been written in the mid-20th century [02:07] schestowitz-TR maybe soon they'll ask all kernel hackers to create a microsoft account [02:08] schestowitz-TR and push "PRs" into MS GitHub [02:08] schestowitz-TR Microsoft tried that years ago [02:08] schestowitz-TR it didn't go well [02:08] schestowitz-TR some hackers sent me emails [02:08] schestowitz-TR raising alarm [02:08] matey i mean its a full paragraph rant, and it wouldnt be out of place more than a thousand years later [02:08] kingoffrance thats another way enlightnment was stabbed in the back "the new atlantis" [02:08] schestowitz-TR but they did push rust [02:08] schestowitz-TR that's ms github [02:08] matey /me has only heard of the original atlantis [02:08] schestowitz-TR so they're halfway there [02:08] schestowitz-TR kernel.org is still self-hosted [02:08] schestowitz-TR but the dev toolchain is not (fully) [02:09] schestowitz-TR it's like putin wantin kiev (Linux) [02:09] schestowitz-TR but for now he settles for cities and towns around the coveted treasure [02:09] schestowitz-TR and linus' head [02:09] schestowitz-TR Zilinsky [02:09] schestowitz-TR (spelling) [02:09] schestowitz-TR github rounding up gnu [02:10] schestowitz-TR next target: kernel.org [02:10] schestowitz-TR 2015: microsoft loves linux [02:10] schestowitz-TR 2025: microsoft controls linux [02:10] schestowitz-TR IF they succeed [02:11] MinceR 2035: there is no linux [02:12] schestowitz-TR probably [02:12] schestowitz-TR just in time for 2038 [02:12] schestowitz-TR problem solved [02:12] matey /me thought they already solved 2038 [02:12] schestowitz-TR MinceR: there's also no putin [02:12] schestowitz-TR unless he turns 82/83 [02:12] MinceR he'll have a successor, probably [02:12] schestowitz-TR bunker bitch trump would be almost 90 [02:12] matey /me can see putin lasting as long as cheney unless you know... [02:12] MinceR unless we all die in a nuclear apocalypse [02:12] MinceR which is still better than living in russia [02:13] schestowitz-TR MinceR: orban's naturalisatioin application is processed [02:13] bnchs__ can't wait for rust to be a failure [02:13] MinceR orban might not live until 2035 either [02:13] schestowitz-TR [02:12] /me thought they already solved 2038 [02:13] schestowitz-TR not for older embedded systems [02:13] bnchs__ can't even implement a linked list without the borrow checker being a bitch [02:13] schestowitz-TR some can last another 15 years [02:13] matey oh of course, those will fall over i guess [02:14] matey out of the sky [02:14] MinceR make the borrow checker _your_ bitch [02:14] matey drop out of orbit [02:14] bnchs__ MinceR: that's bad [02:14] bnchs__ just use C [02:14] schestowitz-TR fall out of orban [02:14] matey 2038: the year we have to put all the satellites back up [02:14] matey "my gps isnt working" [02:14] MinceR just switch to 64bit satellites [02:14] matey "yeah neither is the electrical grid" [02:14] bnchs__ i mean how can a simple concept like linked list is literally the worst to implement in rust [02:14] matey "darn satellites" [02:14] schestowitz-TR 128bit systems might be common by then [02:15] bnchs__ and when you bring this up to rust people [02:15] schestowitz-TR so they might leap ahead [02:15] matey i figure what theyll probably do is put up newer sats by then [02:15] bnchs__ they say "why do you need linked list" [02:15] matey maybe CUBEsats [02:15] bnchs__ "linked list is BAD anyway" [02:15] matey "just throw some smartphones up there really hard" [02:15] matey "and whatever god wants, he keeps" [02:15] schestowitz-TR "is this a falling satellite or are you just excited to see me?" [02:16] bnchs__ falling satellite [02:16] matey look its space garbage! make a wish! [02:16] bnchs__ presented to you by elon starlink [02:16] matey "i wish people would stop using rust!" [02:16] bnchs__ now die bitch [02:16] schestowitz-TR matey: rust won't last long [02:16] schestowitz-TR very few things of its kind do [02:16] matey you say about everything [02:16] bnchs__ when you can't implement a simple concept [02:16] schestowitz-TR you can list them on one hand's finger [02:16] bnchs__ when it's very likely it will die [02:16] matey "global warming wont last long" roy, or mincer [02:16] MinceR huh? [02:17] schestowitz-TR linux will have to do lots of rewriting when rust perishes [02:17] matey well he says it wont last long because its a problem [02:17] matey and you say it wont because humanity will kill itself anyway [02:17] schestowitz-TR like adobe flash/.swf files [02:17] matey thats the joke. i didnt say it was my best [02:17] bnchs__ schestowitz-TR, linked list is used in POSIX's getaddrinfo API [02:17] bnchs__ they'll fuck up at that [02:17] MinceR global warming will stick around after humanity has killed itself off [02:17] matey i know [02:17] matey its not actually true [02:17] matey its deliberately silly [02:18] schestowitz-TR global WAR-ming [02:18] schestowitz-TR we're just getting warmed up [02:18] schestowitz-TR "is it warming up or did putin do gorlla dust at chernobyl again?" [02:19] schestowitz-TR (fallout sickness) [02:19] matey the zone at chernobyl is populated at least [02:19] bnchs__ rust is another memelang [02:19] matey albeit not by many (for some reason) [02:19] bnchs__ it won't last a day [02:19] schestowitz-TR give it 5-10 years [02:19] schestowitz-TR not much by standards of Linux and GNU [02:19] matey github will probably move there for tax rasons [02:19] schestowitz-TR GNU turns 40 next year [02:19] bnchs__ you already have to do "unsafe" to do anything in rust [02:19] matey raisons [02:19] matey california raisons [02:20] *alextee has quit (Quit: Leaving) [02:20] matey theyre actually french [02:20] schestowitz-TR matey: arctic vault, chernobyl vault [02:20] schestowitz-TR protected from humans [02:20] schestowitz-TR using high radiation [02:20] bnchs__ tell me how many unsafe keywords you see on a typical rust project [02:20] schestowitz-TR you cannot even get close to the vault without vomiting [02:20] matey chernobyl is more suitable to human life than the arctic really [02:20] bnchs__ schestowitz-TR, just wear a suit bro [02:20] schestowitz-TR suits me [02:21] schestowitz-TR bnchs__: I always do when I go food-shopping [02:21] schestowitz-TR not hazmat but close [02:21] bnchs__ i mean a hazardous suit [02:21] schestowitz-TR only my eyes are showing, like a saudi woman [02:21] matey roy: n-what? [02:21] bnchs__ for when you wanna go to the vault [02:21] schestowitz-TR with holes in the garments or lines [02:21] matey lol@saudi woman [02:22] schestowitz-TR people who know me cannot recognise me [02:22] bnchs__ schestowitz-TR, thats called the burqa [02:22] bnchs__ and it's banned in morocco [02:22] bnchs__ because for legal reasons blah blah blah [02:22] schestowitz-TR unless they know my bags or my wardrobe [02:22] matey moroccans have to wear proper ppe then [02:23] schestowitz-TR manchester is so p-c you cannot even say anything about "traditional" saudi garments for women [02:23] schestowitz-TR that's racist [02:23] bnchs__ they banned it because for "security reasons" [02:23] schestowitz-TR but the clothing is sexist, so... [02:23] matey /me didnt know saudi was a race [02:23] bnchs__ the burqa can be used to hide identities of criminals and terrorists [02:23] schestowitz-TR but this tolerance makes it OK for me to dress by the same coder [02:23] schestowitz-TR except it's sports attire [02:24] activelow schestowitz-TR> GNU turns 40 next year [02:24] matey the burqa can be used to hide identities of criminals and terrorists "all spies must register with security officer" [02:24] kingoffrance i should add, although there is nothing to discuss, enlightenment was "the people are the state". there is no "stateless enlightenment" non-sequitor [02:24] schestowitz-TR matey: doesn't matter anymor [02:24] activelow that's how long east germany existed: 40 years [02:24] matey gnu is already dead [02:24] schestowitz-TR islam is a "race" now [02:24] matey are christians a race too? [02:24] activelow it is a running gag, to say "40 years" [02:24] schestowitz-TR it's a race you can change [02:24] schestowitz-TR apostacy notwithstanding [02:24] kingoffrance dont go there matey, or come to another channel :D [02:24] bnchs__ matey: it's actually a thing that was done before [02:24] matey kingoffrance: lol [02:25] bnchs__ people using burqas to hide weapons and shit [02:25] matey people using burqas to hide weapons and shit <- ruining burqas for everyone else! [02:25] schestowitz-TR well, now we have covid-19 [02:25] bnchs__ also sneaking in women toilet [02:25] schestowitz-TR so it's self-defence [02:25] schestowitz-TR and safety [02:25] schestowitz-TR to dress up well [02:26] schestowitz-TR bnchs__: you don't need clothing for that [02:26] schestowitz-TR you can join the they/them crowd [02:26] schestowitz-TR and then walk right in [02:26] bnchs__ transgender is not accepted here [02:26] schestowitz-TR which does cause alarm among women [02:26] bnchs__ they're just gonna laugh at you [02:26] bnchs__ better wear the burqa [02:26] matey which does cause alarm among women <- mostly jk rowling and nina paley though [02:26] schestowitz-TR I never thought of this burqa aspect [02:27] schestowitz-TR like sneaking into women's toilet [02:27] schestowitz-TR but if armed men can camouflage as women to enter places and shoot people, lavatories are possible too [02:28] schestowitz-TR matey: I didn't know about paley [02:28] matey if armed men can camouflage as women to enter places and shoot people <- i mean they could do that before people started tackling transphobia [02:28] schestowitz-TR maybe she skipped the whole twitter thing [02:28] matey I didn't know about paley <- she draws trans women as penises wearing a wig [02:28] schestowitz-TR that's not nice [02:28] schestowitz-TR provocative [02:28] matey like a penis instead of a person-- with a little face and everything [02:28] matey that's not nice <- im sure she thinks its clever [02:29] schestowitz-TR but many women do feel unsafe [02:29] matey im a bit disappointed by it [02:29] schestowitz-TR you can see lots of them [02:29] bnchs__ there's also one thing [02:29] schestowitz-TR and they're not militant or radical [02:29] bnchs__ burqa is also a symbol of radical islam [02:29] matey women used to feel unsafe around black people too... [02:29] schestowitz-TR they are just mortified [02:29] schestowitz-TR and feel uncomfortable [02:29] bnchs__ you know, the same radical islam associated with terrorists [02:29] bnchs__ like ISIS [02:29] DaemonFC " The EU needs to be tough on Putin, and tough on Orbn, but is that possible? " -Stallman [02:29] DaemonFC Well, Orban will be easier. [02:29] matey if women feel unsafe we should arm them [02:30] schestowitz-TR gay men in the men's WCs is not an issue [02:30] matey theyll feel better then [02:30] DaemonFC As far as I know, Hungary has no nukes and oil. [02:30] schestowitz-TR because gay men cannot 'overpower' you [02:30] matey seriously, its a legitimate approach. this is not merely an argument about guns (various ways to arm women against attackers) [02:30] schestowitz-TR or you don't sense that sort of threat anyway [02:30] DaemonFC I know some bears that would disagree. [02:30] matey well bears rarely sneak into lavatories [02:30] matey but im sure its happened at least once [02:31] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: is that an ACTUAL RMS quote? [02:31] matey more often in the northwest [02:31] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Yes, off of his blog. [02:31] schestowitz-TR OK [02:31] matey it doesnt look unlike a stallman quote [02:31] DaemonFC That he said Europe should be tough on Orban and Putin? [02:32] DaemonFC No more inviteskys from RT? [02:32] schestowitz-TR R what? [02:32] schestowitz-TR it was deplatformed heavily [02:32] matey /me doubts rms would go to russia right now, unless putin wanted him to give a talk on free software [02:32] schestowitz-TR removed from cablwe TV [02:32] schestowitz-TR gulagtube [02:32] schestowitz-TR everything except their DDOSed site [02:32] matey rms would probably go to a taliban hideout if they asked him to give a talk on free software [02:32] DaemonFC Yes, even in the US it's hard to watch RT now, on TV. [02:33] schestowitz-TR their licences to operate in foreign soil like germany and ukj was revoked too [02:33] DaemonFC I'm not sure if Dish Network still has them. Comcast and DirecTV got rid of them. [02:33] schestowitz-TR along with OAN [02:33] DaemonFC They had Jesse the WALRUS on a blurb talking about how RT didn't give you any fake news right as DirecTV pulled the plug on them. [02:34] matey "they put a bag over my head so i couldnt find out where they were located, but after they searched me for weapons we had a nice lunch and they had lots of questions about how free software could help in their fight against the infidels. i told them theres no god, but they said they werent offended as long as i wasnt saying there was any god besides allah." [02:34] matey "i also explained that free software wasnt only for fighting infidels but that freedom 0 means you can use the software for any purpose" [02:35] activelow lol [02:36] *schestowitz_log_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:36] *schestowitz_log__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:36] DaemonFC "i also explained that free software wasnt only for fighting infidels but that freedom 0 means you can use the software for any purpose" [02:37] DaemonFC With an extra emphasis on the uranium enrichment. [02:37] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. 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[02:41] schestowitz-TR no, it goes beyond that [02:41] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-04-08.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-04-08.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:41] schestowitz-TR the CoC adds bans to existing laws [02:41] schestowitz-TR so it's a corporate extension to law [02:41] matey and the CoE is going to be so much fun [02:42] schestowitz-TR and the enforcementr is arbitrarily done by their employees [02:42] schestowitz-TR not real courts [02:42] activelow that's not the legal scope of a _software_ license, and most software is _not_ subject to profiliferation concerns either [02:42] matey so it's a corporate extension <- also known as overthrow / co-opting [02:42] matey that's not the legal scope of a _software_ license, and most software is _not_ subject to profiliferation concerns either <- yes but try explaining that to idiots [02:43] matey and the enforcementr is arbitrarily done by their employees <- this is a feature [02:43] matey basically we put corporations in charge of our freedom from corporations, and... oh, shit! why didnt anyone think of CODE OF ETHICS [02:43] matey code of ethics is going to be so much fun, there will be forks everywhere [02:44] matey but not everywhere, because MOST people (like the fsf) are just going to sit back and watch everything get taken over [02:44] matey the rest will rebuilt the movement-- as at that point, the movement is dead. [02:44] matey dead but not forgotten [02:44] matey we will rebuild of course. but most people will not come along for it. [02:44] matey not for a long time [02:45] matey this wont feature in stallmans state of free software speech [02:45] matey maybe he will mention the code of ethics but probably not [02:45] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [02:45] matey since the board already has one. [02:45] matey thank joshua gay [02:46] matey hes the one who demanded it in 2019 (really he was just speaking for other people) [02:46] matey late sept 2019 [02:46] matey implemented by the fsf in 2022. [02:46] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@m4vhwzwfnmxia.irc) has joined #techrights [02:47] matey it reads a lot like a code of conduct with "conduct" scratched out and replaced with "ethics" [02:47] matey but thats the future. [02:47] matey strike 3 on the fsf remakes the american version of the office [02:47] DaemonFC I just ignore those. [02:47] matey i just dont support them [02:48] matey though as long as you dont want to talk at libreplanet, or on libera chat, or contribute (directly) to free software projects, its a non-issue [02:48] matey as long as you run your own project (with blackjack and hookers) then youre fine [02:48] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/south-carolina-schedules-1st-execution-with-firing-squad-ready/ [02:48] TR Bot South Carolina schedules 1st execution with firing squad ready | WGN-TV [02:49] matey a lot of people charged with sedition and terrorism have tried to opt for firing squad instead of hanging [02:49] matey including saddam [02:49] matey a number of bolsheviks executed under stalin [02:51] matey they should abolish the death penalty, but south carolina is already a banana republic posing as a state [02:51] kingoffrance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Atlantis_(journal) thats ok the non-enlightened people do "ethics" too [02:51] TR Bot The New Atlantis (journal) - Wikipedia [02:52] kingoffrance and public policy [02:52] matey non-enlightened people are eager to replace ethics with policies [02:52] kingoffrance put the non-enlightened people in charge of enlightenment lol [02:52] *schestowitz_log_ (~schestowi@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [02:52] *schestowitz_log__ (~schestowitz_log@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [02:52] *schestowitz_log_ (~schestowitz_log@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [02:52] matey ethics involves debate and sometimes leaving things as they are (gasp!) rather than making them arbitrarily worse [02:53] matey policy people are fine with arbitrarily worse AS LONG AS ITS CONSISTENT [02:53] matey which just as the cherry on top, it never is (consistent) [02:53] *Guest91 (~schestowi@2a00:23c4:c383:c901:c3d5:ade4:8847:aa47) has joined #techrights [02:53] matey so we literally throw out reason in favour of consistency, which isnt even consistent. [02:53] matey give yourself a hand, coc-masters. [02:56] matey maybe im sentimental, but any captured and convicted dictator who prefers to be shot should be [02:57] matey hanging them is barbaric. if youre going to do that, why not just bring back stoning? [02:57] matey and these are all people who quote leviticus, while insisting they arent even held to it (except when they like it) [02:58] matey but since sc isnt in charge of that, its the federal gov and the armed forces who need to provide the option for firing squad [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 72.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 337.68 [02:59] matey my guess is they arent going to bother ● Apr 09 [03:01] kingoffrance "the CoC adds bans to existing laws so it's a corporate extension to law" schestowitz-TR wins. its an enlightened inquisition with private "courts" [03:01] kingoffrance just like the last time lol [03:02] schestowitz-TR but this is one for ETHICS [03:02] schestowitz-TR free speech isn't ethics [03:02] schestowitz-TR corporations are ethics [03:02] matey ethics > freedom! [03:02] schestowitz-TR condeming corporations is not ethical [03:02] schestowitz-TR it's UN-ethical [03:02] schestowitz-TR like UN [03:03] matey its hypocritical, because corporations arent the ONLY entities that do bad things [03:04] kingoffrance lol [03:05] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 123939 total Total number of pages in capsule: 40091 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 1 months 29 days ago [03:06] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 33 GB TotalOut: 7.1 GB [03:06] *schestowitz-TR installs and tries audacious in latest kde neon [03:06] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=T5HSNRrD-Ls [03:06] TR Bot *Church* of Scientology Ethics 101 - Invidious [03:07] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:08] matey its not an ad for the group, its commentary from former members who use an 18-second clip from an ad [03:08] AdmFubar ooopsie doodles again https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/atlassian_service_issues_linger_leaving/ [03:08] Alternative link CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/atlassian_service_issues_linger_leaving/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/atlassian_service_issues_linger_leaving/ [03:08] TR Bot Atlassian outage lingers, some customers fear data loss The Register [03:08] matey who then talk about how fucked up it is [03:08] schestowitz-TR lol! [03:08] IPFS QmPokuDJbuL2FN7E9h2TvVkafexTCncL78fivWTmKvQBfi [03:08] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:08] schestowitz-TR go clown go [03:08] schestowitz-TR the clown is SAFETY! [03:08] schestowitz-TR censorship is safety [03:08] schestowitz-TR outsourcing is security [03:08] schestowitz-TR just don'tbe Russian!! [03:09] schestowitz-TR remember when gitLAB suffered data loss? [03:09] matey freedom is slavery. war is peace. outsourcing is security. [03:09] schestowitz-TR matey: as I like to say, [03:09] schestowitz-TR GOING BACK TO MAINFRAME [03:09] matey oh yeah [03:09] schestowitz-TR is NOT "modernising" [03:09] schestowitz-TR or "keeping up with the time.." [03:09] schestowitz-TR the goal was to give computers to residential markets [03:10] schestowitz-TR and now they go in reverse [03:10] schestowitz-TR and go, "ooooh oooooooo!!!!!! this is so much better" [03:10] matey the industry giveth and the industry taketh away when theres a buck to be made [03:10] schestowitz-TR and WHY? [03:10] schestowitz-TR WHAT did we invent? [03:10] schestowitz-TR the VM? [03:10] schestowitz-TR No. [03:10] schestowitz-TR That's old [03:10] schestowitz-TR 20 years [03:10] schestowitz-TR containers? [03:10] schestowitz-TR just another lousy implementation? [03:10] schestowitz-TR dataecentres? No. [03:11] schestowitz-TR redundancy? No. [03:11] schestowitz-TR That goes more than 50 years back [03:11] schestowitz-TR so WHY? [03:11] schestowitz-TR Why, clown, why? Why NOW? [03:11] schestowitz-TR nobody can answer that!! [03:11] schestowitz-TR btw, around 2011 I installed JIRA locally [03:11] matey "the ethics officer is an enforcer... hes going to dish out how much punishment you get" (from the above link) [03:11] schestowitz-TR on a server from like the 90s... [03:11] schestowitz-TR or a router [03:12] schestowitz-TR with postgres and all [03:12] schestowitz-TR slow like a snail [03:12] schestowitz-TR JIRA has become more bloated since [03:12] AdmFubar https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/apple_ios_privacy/ [03:12] Alternative link CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/apple_ios_privacy/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/apple_ios_privacy/ [03:12] TR Bot Apple iOS privacy clampdown 'did little' to reduce tracking The Register [03:12] matey moores law cant keep up with bad design [03:13] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: XRevan86: latest audacious in kde-neon (2020 iirc) is 3.10/1 [03:13] schestowitz-TR 2018 [03:13] *bnchs__ has quit (connection closed) [03:14] matey kingoffrance according to the above video, the cults "enforcement of ethics" has turned into "selling indulgences" [03:14] matey which is also true for open source [03:14] kingoffrance yeah lol [03:14] kingoffrance sounds about right lol [03:14] matey if youre a developer, you have to do what we tell you [03:14] matey but you can buy your freedom if youre a corporation [03:14] matey great plan, lets call it "ethics" [03:15] schestowitz-TR official web site speaks of 4.1 [03:15] schestowitz-TR feb 1 2022 [03:15] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights [03:16] schestowitz-TR the site lacks rss/atom/xml [03:16] schestowitz-TR which I'd have liked to have and add [03:17] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar: untrue [03:17] schestowitz-TR it was a PR stunt [03:17] schestowitz-TR it did fool their scientology-like cult [03:17] schestowitz-TR it's about optics [03:17] matey official web site <- for what? [03:18] TR News Clown computing and data loss are two-word synonyms https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/atlassian_service_issues_linger_leaving/ [03:18] Alternative link CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/atlassian_service_issues_linger_leaving/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/atlassian_service_issues_linger_leaving/ [03:18] TR Bot Atlassian outage lingers, some customers fear data loss The Register [03:19] matey audacious? [03:19] TR News Apple works for NSA. You need to be as gullible as an Apple "consumer" to believe otherwise (in the face of verifiable facts) https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/apple_ios_privacy/ [03:19] Alternative link CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/apple_ios_privacy/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/apple_ios_privacy/ [03:19] schestowitz-TR matey: yes [03:20] schestowitz-TR I use vlc and audacious alone [03:20] schestowitz-TR vlc is for video [03:20] schestowitz-TR but audacious can play the audio tracks of video files OK [03:20] schestowitz-TR and can look like winamp [03:20] schestowitz-TR which brings me back to my childhood [03:20] matey indeed [03:20] schestowitz-TR as a kid I even made a few winamp themes [03:21] matey i used winamp at one point [03:21] schestowitz-TR I didn't save them on backups, so lost them after dead drive [03:21] matey and xmms [03:21] matey though i use mplayer now [03:21] schestowitz-TR xmms was my sole media player for like 8 years [03:21] schestowitz-TR then minirok, amarok and others [03:21] schestowitz-TR amarok seems mostly abandoned now [03:21] schestowitz-TR there was a vibrant dutch team behind it at one point with active site and reports [03:22] schestowitz-TR minirok (dutch) was python based and light [03:22] matey # pkg_add amarok [03:22] matey Obsolete package: amarok (no longer maintained and full of security holes) [03:22] matey ^ what it actually says [03:23] matey "VW last year confirmed that one of the joint projects would be a redesigned Amarok based on the same T6 body-on-frame platform as the next Ford Ranger due for a reveal around the end of the year...." [03:23] matey lol [03:24] schestowitz-TR matey: try minirok [03:24] schestowitz-TR see what it says [03:24] schestowitz-TR songbird also seems to have died ages ago [03:25] matey packaging python-based software seems to be a gnu/linux thing [03:25] matey its not available from pkg_add but given that its python-based thats not surprising [03:26] matey maybe its in ports though [03:26] schestowitz-TR they are both absent here too [03:27] schestowitz-TR obs. no songbird either [03:27] schestowitz-TR mplayer is hungarian iirc [03:27] schestowitz-TR unless something changed other than the forks [03:27] matey bellard is from hungary? [03:27] schestowitz-TR no [03:27] schestowitz-TR he's french [03:27] activelow i am glad original mplayer still exists, together with directfb support [03:27] schestowitz-TR you think of vlc? [03:27] matey qemu, tinycc, mplayer [03:28] schestowitz-TR wait [03:28] matey no maybe im thinking ffmpeg [03:28] kingoffrance didnt know he was involved with mplayer [03:28] schestowitz-TR that''s a different french dev [03:28] matey which mplayer uses [03:28] matey i might be conflating mplayer and ffmpeg, which are related but not the same obviously [03:29] activelow mplayer with fbcon/fbcon2 doesn't require any c++ dependency at all, for video rendering, no sdl2, no directfb, although mode-switching and/or video output scaling didn't work with fbcon/fbcon2 last time i tried [03:29] matey mplayer was written originally by a guy named arpad [03:29] matey bellard is ffmpeg, not mplayer [03:30] schestowitz-TR he should get fsf award [03:30] matey mplayer with fbcon/fbcon2 doesn't require any c++ dependency at all <- nice [03:30] schestowitz-TR but no... give it to people who never coded [03:30] schestowitz-TR but who worked for fsf [03:31] schestowitz https://www.thejakartapost.com/culture/2022/04/08/author-and-filmmaker-richard-oh-passes-away-at-62.html [03:31] Alternative link CloudFlare: thejakartapost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thejakartapost.com/culture/2022/04/08/author-and-filmmaker-richard-oh-passes-away-at-62.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.thejakartapost.com/culture/2022/04/08/author-and-filmmaker-richard-oh-passes-away-at-62.html [03:31] TR Bot Author and filmmaker Richard Oh passes away at 62 - Entertainment - The Jakarta Post [03:32] matey The project was started by Fabrice Bellard (using the pseudonym "Grard Lantau") in 2000, and was led by Michael Niedermayer from 2004 until 2015. [03:32] matey Grard Lantau <- heh [03:32] TR News Oh, REALLY? Avast itself has been proven to be spyware if not malware. If you install it, you've let a malicious entity penetrate past your defences! https://stockhouse.com/news/press-releases/2022/04/05/avast-adds-new-privacy-and-scam-protection-features-to-avast-one [03:32] Alternative link CloudFlare: stockhouse.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://stockhouse.com/news/press-releases/2022/04/05/avast-adds-new-privacy-and-scam-protection-features-to-avast-one https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://stockhouse.com/news/press-releases/2022/04/05/avast-adds-new-privacy-and-scam-protection-features-to-avast-one [03:32] TR Bot Adds New Privacy and Scam Protection Features to Avast One | 2022-04-05 | Press Releases | Stockhouse [03:32] matey thats in reference to qemu i believe [03:32] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPlayer [03:32] TR Bot MPlayer - Wikipedia [03:33] schestowitz Websitemplayerhq.hu [03:33] schestowitz "The original author, Hungarian rpd Gereffy" [03:33] schestowitz I won't even try to read that name [03:33] schestowitz it looks a little Swedish [03:34] schestowitz "mplayer2 was a GPLv3-licensed fork of MPlayer, largely the work of Uoti Urpala, who was excluded from the MPlayer project in May 2010 due to "long standing differences" with the MPlayer Team.[16] The main changes from MPlayer were improved pause handling, Matroska support, seeking, and support for Nvidia VDPAU; enabling multithreading by default; and the removal of MEncoder, the GUI interface, and various video drivers and bundled libraries, such [03:34] schestowitz as ffmpeg, relying instead on shared libraries.[17][18] The developers also indicated intentions to enable MPlayer2 to use libav as an alternative to ffmpeg.[19] The first release, 2.0, was published in March 2011. There have been no subsequent stable releases." [03:34] schestowitz I use mpv sometimes [03:34] matey 02:29 mplayer was written originally by a guy named arpad [03:34] matey 02:29 bellard is ffmpeg, not mplayer [03:35] matey largely the work of Uoti Urpala, who was excluded from the MPlayer project in May 2010 due to "long standing differences" with the MPlayer Team [03:35] TR News MOAR proprietary software will NOT protect you. Is is a liability. https://www.joplinglobe.com/region/national_business/arcserve-enhances-key-ransomware-defense-solution/article_12a1efe5-95be-5df8-85f7-bfa8b459621c.html [03:35] TR Bot Enhances Key Ransomware Defense Solution | National Business | joplinglobe.com [03:36] TR News Hoarded by Michael Larabel, as AMD prioritised bribes, not customers. https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/amd_threadripper_supply/ [03:36] Alternative link CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/amd_threadripper_supply/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/amd_threadripper_supply/ [03:36] TR Bot AMD Threadripper CPU supply severely low, PC makers say The Register [03:36] matey https://libregamewiki.org/Uoti_Urpala Uoti Urpala is a member of the XPilot NG project.[1] This page was last edited on 11 August 2018, at 19:23. From LibreGameWiki, the libre, opensource and free games encyclopedia. [03:36] TR Bot Uoti Urpala - Libregamewiki [03:37] schestowitz sounds Finnish [03:37] matey mplayer2 was created by Uoti Urpala who had his disagreements with the original MPlayer team and made his own version with streamlined build system and throwing out many hacks of the original code. [03:38] activelow well yes, chances are tinycc+mplayer(fbcon/fbcon2)+ffmpeg are possible with a c-only profile, all nasty dependencies removed, and support audio/video with it; in fact i got mplayer inside this c-profile already [03:38] schestowitz-TR mplayer was vital around 2002 [03:39] schestowitz-TR the days of divx [03:39] activelow SDL1/2 and directfb are written in c++, yet are not necessary for audio/video with mplayer [03:39] schestowitz-TR the web was still littered with WMP crap [03:39] mjg59_ You're going to have awful performance hitting fbcon directly [03:39] mjg59_ No hardware rescaling [03:40] activelow mjg59_: mplayer+directfb is very efficient and fast, sufficient for DVD/PAL resolution, on a low-power cortex a53 [03:40] mjg59_ Have to do YUVRGB by hand [03:40] activelow yet, directfb is written in c++; and gcc probably applies some auto-vectorization, utilization of FPU etc. [03:41] activelow the only problem with fbcon/fbcon2: missing video-output scaling [03:42] activelow that's why, i keep directfb, outside the c-only base-system profile [03:42] TR News "Daniel Khl is a DevOps Engineer"... oh, 'DevOps' https://fedoramagazine.org/samba-as-ad-and-domain-controller/ [03:42] matey mplayer was vital around 2002 <- i like it because its simply the least bullshit video player ever made [03:42] TR Bot Samba as AD and Domain Controller - Fedora Magazine [03:42] matey i used to be a vlc fan [03:42] matey it got really stupid (ymmv) [03:42] matey but i used to really love vlc [03:42] matey mplayer hasnt let me down [03:43] TR News Sayak Boral does not want you to know about GNU/Linux. Longtime Microsoft booster. https://www.maketecheasier.com/fix-high-memory-usage-windows/ [03:43] TR Bot How to Fix High Memory Usage in Windows - Make Tech Easier [03:43] AdmFubar https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/microsoft_nonprofit_price_increases/ [03:43] Alternative link CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/microsoft_nonprofit_price_increases/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/microsoft_nonprofit_price_increases/ [03:43] TR Bot Microsoft hikes prices for nonprofit customers The Register [03:43] matey mplayer is definitely not the friendliest gui player because those are addons [03:43] matey usually maintained by people who care less than mplayer itself, so they come and go [03:44] matey but i always use mplayer from the cli and it has enough keyboard shortcuts [03:44] activelow i welcome mplayer doesn't require any gui at all, midnight commander, press enter, done. [03:44] matey right [03:44] TR News howtoforge has not been inaccessible for nearly a month due to the virus known as clownflare. RSS feed is practically dead, as RSS readers cannot solve JS challenges. Maybe howtoforge got all sadistic and wants to commit suicide. [03:44] matey plus i used to use it from the framebuffer [03:44] matey even when x wasnt running [03:45] TR News The Unexpected Importance of the Trailing Slash Tookmund A place for my random thoughts about software https://tookmund.com/2022/04/importance-of-the-trailing-slash Source: tookmund [03:45] TR Bot Unexpected Importance of the Trailing Slash Tookmund A place for my random thoughts about software [03:45] matey vlc used to be no-bullshit, when i had to twiddle controls just to get decent playback i gave up on it [03:46] schestowitz-TR [03:43] https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/microsoft_nonprofit_price_increases/ [03:46] Alternative link CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/microsoft_nonprofit_price_increases/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/microsoft_nonprofit_price_increases/ [03:46] schestowitz-TR aamzon also [03:46] schestowitz-TR clown computing [03:46] schestowitz-TR make a masked scooby doo meme [03:46] matey theres been a notable (and noted) degredation of performance and reliability on more than one platform [03:46] schestowitz-TR "let's see who you REALLY are!" [03:46] kingoffrance lol [03:46] matey but it must still behave for some people [03:47] activelow problem within X11 is this: missing rendering backend, which is fast and efficient to output DVD/PAL resolution video without any of the proprietary/GPU "acceleration" magic [03:47] matey problem within X11 is this: missing rendering backend <- its not the same with the framebuffer? [03:47] activelow the GPU "acceleration" magic is a marketing scam; the main CPU can do it, with it's FPU and SIMD units; [03:48] activelow which is another irony of SIMD and FPU, those were explicitely designed for "multimedia" processing [03:48] TR News Clown computing is a bait-and-switch trap; Microsoft is a bunch of criminals, preying on the poorest https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/microsoft_nonprofit_price_increases/ [03:48] Alternative link CloudFlare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/microsoft_nonprofit_price_increases/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/08/microsoft_nonprofit_price_increases/ [03:49] activelow and, SIMD isn't necessary either, for example, DirectFB can multi-thread the rendering to dedicated multicore FPUs, if there is multiple present of them, which they are almost always [03:49] matey isnt it a shorter path (bus) from graphics adapter to gpu than from graphics adapter to cpu though? [03:49] matey i mean im not a gpu fan [03:49] matey but id like to understand this [03:49] TR News Microsoft be like, President Biden, please bail us out so we can carry on plundering charities http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/ [03:49] TR Bot The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights [03:50] matey what i mean is [03:50] matey isnt there a good reason (at least hypothetically) to have a gpu INSTEAD of using cpu features? [03:50] matey even cpu features designed for graphics processing? [03:50] activelow depends, not sure what the problem would be; with regards to memory bandwidth, the cortex a53 yields ~4GiB/s, which is good enough for a fast and efficient framebuffer [03:50] matey i dont like gpus because they tend to be the most proprietary hardware in almost everything [03:51] matey im not a fan of that. [03:51] activelow the entire software-stack for GPU is rigged [03:51] matey right youve explained that, its very interesting [03:52] activelow complicated, bloated, a gigantic dependency graph, down from hardware level, kernel, libraries, requirement of LLVM/Clang compiler [03:52] matey but even so it seems like moving from fpu and simd to gpu in and of itself isnt a stupid idea [03:52] matey the way they did it at least, seems dirty [03:52] TR News They call it clown computing because it'll all end up as a mushroom clown [03:53] kingoffrance he suggested a stable ISA for a stable SOC "The Thirty Million Line Problem" so, anyone could do whatever GPU inside there they want, just present a consistent interface [03:53] kingoffrance https://caseymuratori.com/blog_0031 [03:53] TR Bot The Thirty-Million-Line Problem (2015) [03:53] TR News Many companies exist in no form other than paper, more so with "IT" companies which outsourced themselves to "the clown"; they don't have any possessions, not even servers!! [03:53] kingoffrance he roughly implies it is because people wanted customizable/flexible hardware (cards) [03:54] activelow well, the cortex-a53, with which i removed and deactivated all GPU "acceleration", requires less than 5watts [03:54] *matey has quit (connection closed) [03:54] TR News Companies "moving to the clown" = outsourcing and LIQUIDATING [03:54] activelow and it got no dedicated GPU memory anyway, and had to share the the memory bandwidth with main CPU; [03:55] kingoffrance ^ yes, this was AGP IIRC [03:55] activelow one issue remaining could be real-time video-encoding; although even this should be possible for DVD/PAL resolution, implemented in software, executed on main CPU [03:56] TR News "Why is there downtime, boss?" "The clown" "Why data loss?" "The clown" "Who's accountable?" "The Clown!!" Same with "Hey Hi" and other corporate buzzword bullshit. [03:56] activelow with the cortex-a53 and ARM NEON simd, software-rendering is fast enough, for yq2, prboom - 5watts [03:57] activelow and i suspect, the ARMv7 hardfloat ABI variant should be even faster than the aarch64/neon optimization i tested; couldn't test the armv7 hardfloat ABI yet [03:57] TR News Hungary has outsourced its leadership to "the clown", just like Belarus [03:57] schestowitz-TR MinceR: : ^ [03:57] mjg59_ Well, you'd hope it's fast enough for prboom, it ran without hardware acceleration on 486s [03:58] MinceR schestowitz-TR: they couldn't help it, that's what their beloved hypePhones and hypePads come with [03:58] schestowitz-TR do a clown migration [03:59] schestowitz-TR the Orban circus can send the cabinet back [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 51.43 average k/sec., average swarm size 265.00 [03:59] schestowitz-TR he does "multiclown" already [03:59] schestowitz-TR is kremlin is down, he uses the EU [03:59] schestowitz-TR and vice versa [03:59] activelow software rendering at DVD/PAL resolution _and_ upscaling to FullHD, with 5watts power draw; this is what the abandoned directfb and mplayer can do [03:59] MinceR i think he's more likely to use paper ● Apr 09 [04:00] schestowitz-TR hitler and stalin imposed multiclown on poland [04:00] MinceR but iirc jozsef szajer bragged about using a hypePad to write the "basic law" [04:00] activelow obviously, increasing resolution from 640x480 to 1920x1080 requires roughly 10x the processing power [04:00] mjg59_ activelow: You could do it in less than 5W if you used GPU functionality [04:00] MinceR none of them are competent enough to realize what a national security risk that is [04:01] activelow i486/DOS was more efficient too [04:01] schestowitz-TR MinceR: I did not hear of that law [04:01] *matey (~matey@uyycfdpcfwkrc.irc) has joined #techrights [04:01] schestowitz-TR basic people pass basic laws [04:01] MinceR it's fideath's replacement for the constitution [04:01] activelow mjg59_: the ARMv7 hardfloat ABI _is_ what a GPU does anyway, and the framebuffer is still there; the mali-opengl stuff is just some redundant silicon [04:01] MinceR hungary is so unconstitutional it doesn't even have a constitution [04:02] mjg59_ activelow: You don't understand what GPUs do [04:02] matey MinceR "if thats what parenthood means that should go away too" <- there are people working on that [04:02] MinceR many people are working on human extinction [04:02] matey /me figures the gpu is like a math coprocessor but for graphics [04:02] activelow i would prefer some extra _general purpose_ cortex ARM cores, with slighlty more L2 cache, instead of the proprietary acceleration voodoo of opengl [04:02] MinceR most of them don't know they are :> [04:02] schestowitz " [04:02] schestowitz Simple minds talk about people, [04:02] schestowitz Average minds talk about events, [04:02] schestowitz Great minds talk about ideas. [04:02] schestowitz " [04:02] kingoffrance ^ "parents" doesnt matter, but noone agrees on what "family" means. [04:02] schestowitz-TR Obran: let's talk about sex, baby putin [04:02] kingoffrance like matey said, noone agrees on what is a "race" either [04:02] matey meh, talking about ideas also means talking about people fucking those ideas up. [04:03] matey kingoffrance: i was being a bit facetious though [04:03] kingoffrance *implied dont mean to put words in your mouth [04:03] matey though you may be right [04:03] matey oh no worries [04:03] kingoffrance enlightenment never solved that either [04:03] activelow even better, instead of ARM cortex cores, would be some real free and opensource hardware; which there isn't any for vt100 termination with PS/2 and VGA [04:03] matey no amount of enlightment can change the fact that some people are idiots [04:04] schestowitz-TR they get promoted [04:04] matey and theres the difference between enlightnment and utopianism [04:04] schestowitz-TR and then the media calls them geniuses [04:04] activelow HDMI is a huge problem... although some opensource verilog/hdl exist for this too [04:04] schestowitz-TR HDMI and opensource? [04:04] *schestowitz-TR shivers a bit [04:05] schestowitz-TR "we need OPEN SOURCE DRM!!" [04:05] activelow schestowitz-TR: opencores got something for HDMI, although i had not seen a full SoC design implementing all requires parts [04:05] matey /me doesnt think sbcs are going back to vga db-15 but maybe they will [04:05] schestowitz-TR -Said nobody, maybe next OSI leader :-) [04:05] schestowitz-TR Miguel de Icaza: let's make "open source" .NET and Silverlight and... [04:05] matey i prefer db-15, alas i have no pull with the hardware industry [04:06] MinceR i don't miss d-sub [04:06] MinceR hdmi works so much better [04:06] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, April 08, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:06] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [04:06] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:06] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:06] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163529 [04:06] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [04:06] matey it seems like a vector for something bad that isnt here yet (except when it is) [04:06] matey maybe its just the usb of video, i dont know [04:07] matey though that seems bad enough [04:07] MinceR usb can do displayport already, at least on usb-c [04:07] matey i mean ive done vga over usb [04:07] matey it sucks though [04:07] activelow USB1 verilog/hdl is available too, opencores [04:08] matey vga over usb is great, after youve booted into x11 [04:08] matey but until then you have no fucking display [04:08] matey less great. [04:08] mjg59_ Are there any free drivers for Displaylink VGA/USB yet? [04:08] matey so its good for something like connecting a projector thats so old... [04:08] schestowitz-TR usb universal cereal breakfast [04:09] matey part of a balanced distro [04:09] schestowitz-TR 100+ bugs [04:09] schestowitz-TR some very severe [04:09] matey Are there any free drivers for Displaylink VGA/USB yet? <- dunno [04:09] schestowitz https://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/15/us/nsa-effort-pries-open-computers-not-connected-to-internet.html [04:09] Alternative link CloudFlare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/15/us/nsa-effort-pries-open-computers-not-connected-to-internet.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/15/us/nsa-effort-pries-open-computers-not-connected-to-internet.html [04:09] TR Bot N.S.A. Devises Radio Pathway Into Computers - The New York Times [04:09] activelow there isn't any free and opensource implementation for vt100 termination with PS/2 and VGA at least [04:09] schestowitz "Tiny transceivers are built into USB plugs and inserted into target computers. Small circuit boards may be placed in the computers themselves" [04:11] matey /me is sort of partial to display solutions that show the vt (and work before x11 is loaded) [04:11] MinceR so am i [04:11] matey so that includes things as low-tech as an sold serial port. [04:12] matey but not something as fancy as vga over usb [04:12] MinceR i almost got a real serial terminal years ago [04:12] matey as for serial port over usb its probably the same problem :) [04:12] MinceR but i had no way to transport it, no place to store it, and little use for it [04:12] matey well, maybe not with x11 per se [04:13] schestowitz-TR matey: Maybe for cubexyz [04:13] schestowitz-TR (mark) [04:13] schestowitz-TR seems the death of freenode kept him away [04:14] MinceR strange, considering that this is not freenode [04:14] schestowitz (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D555.jpg [04:15] schestowitz (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D197.jpg [04:15] MinceR :3 [04:16] matey i dont know, ive heard stories about why people left before [04:16] TR News New gemlog URL format (and how it works) gemini://gemini.panda-roux.dev/log/entry/53 [04:17] *frog (~6bbd0e4d@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [04:17] TR News "The student movements of the 1960s were among the first to politicize the computer at the time, massive mainframes that only governments, corporations, and universities could afford. Mario Savio, leader of the Berkeley Free Speech Movement, famously invoked opposition to "the machine" in his attacks on the bureaucratization and soullessness " gemini://beyondneolithic.life/mueller_archive/breaking_things_at_work/high_tech_luddism [04:18] TR News False: If only people knew the truth about empire, it would crumble gemini://beyondneolithic.life/posts/if_only_they_knew.gmi [04:19] schestowitz-TR MinceR: he has an account here [04:19] schestowitz-TR he was here for a while [04:19] MinceR good [04:20] schestowitz-TR remember msb? [04:20] schestowitz-TR mark bilk? [04:20] MinceR yes [04:20] schestowitz-TR when people stop going online you sometimes wonder [04:20] MinceR yeah [04:20] schestowitz-TR bilk even came here to irc from the hospital iirc [04:21] frog anyone know simple image uploader site? [04:21] schestowitz-TR he was also in suse, usenet... [04:21] matey frog: not anymore [04:21] MinceR ibb.co, catbox.moe, 0x0.st [04:21] MinceR shittyurl.org [04:21] frog thx [04:21] schestowitz-TR catbox :3 [04:21] MinceR np [04:21] MinceR catbox is often offline [04:21] MinceR but has a js-free version at nofun.catbox.moe [04:21] schestowitz-TR it's a shittyurl anyway [04:21] MinceR :> [04:22] matey people disappear from online communities for all sorts of reasons [04:23] matey often because of time constraints (kid born, new job) or they lose interest (even if they were passionately interested before) or because theyve grown tired of some form of harassment (public, private) [04:24] matey i disappeared from one community many years ago because of death threats and constant harassment [04:24] schestowitz-TR or the community shuts down [04:24] schestowitz-TR little is left of diapora [04:24] schestowitz-TR not many active users [04:24] matey yeah like puppys main interaction was at the murge forums [04:24] matey murga died, forums went down [04:24] matey theres still a puppy forum but nothing like the murga forum [04:24] matey most of the history of the distro is on the murga forum [04:25] schestowitz-TR was [04:25] matey or would be, if it were online [04:25] schestowitz-TR gn [04:25] matey right [04:25] frog i got inspired by the clown so.. [04:25] frog http://0x0.st/obgs.png [04:26] frog The below 2 images are captured just now (tor browser) [04:29] matey yeah sourceforge has gotten a bit shit lately [04:29] matey on this front [04:30] matey and change.org is a joke imo [04:31] matey someone should do am investigation of how much it has actually changed [04:31] frog Many sites are joining to Clown cafe each day and it reached 22,000,000 last week [04:31] matey it might be an elephant whistle [04:31] frog https://archive.org/details/crimeflare [04:31] TR Bot Cloudflare Domains (April 2022) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive [04:31] matey it reached 22,000,000 last week [04:32] frog (as base domains) [04:32] matey clownworld... wide web [04:32] frog this is about 10% of total ICANN-registered domains [04:32] matey wow [04:32] matey nice stat [04:32] matey "the github of the web" [04:32] matey "the github of websites" [04:33] matey github is like this too... id say more than half of free software is there now [04:33] frog we usually push the list to above archive but the secondary git is down (probably ddos) [04:33] frog so no cake tomorrow [04:33] matey is the code there? [04:33] frog yup [04:33] frog aaand its down lol [04:33] matey nice, bnchs was looking for it [04:33] frog can't contact the maintainer anyway since about 3 or 4 days ago. [04:34] frog hope he's ok [04:34] matey maybe clownflare thugs are talking to him in a basement [04:34] frog or maybe in conflict with ukr war [04:34] matey that would suck [04:35] frog he's in europe so that might a possibility [04:35] matey even if hes fine, the downtime could TECHNICALLY be related [04:35] frog ddos happens anytime [04:35] matey indeed [04:36] matey slitaz was ddosed for months [04:36] matey so they moved to github [04:36] matey then they left again [04:36] matey more recently puppylinux.com was taken down (from github) because it was being ddosed [04:37] matey so github wont protect you from ddosing, if anything theyll knock you offline for it [04:37] frog self-hosted gitea might be a solution for them [04:37] matey puppy (as a project) isnt smart enough to use gitea [04:37] matey they might have the technical ability, but not the will [04:38] frog yeah running server cost time and money [04:38] matey even if you have time and money, it requires committment [04:38] matey and theyd rather outsource to microsoft [04:38] frog "committment" <- of course [04:40] frog gotta back to swimming [04:41] *frog has quit (Quit: https://mibbit.com Online IRC Client) [04:42] *matey has quit (connection closed) [04:42] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/benito-juarez-high-school-to-ban-cell-phone-use-for-students/ [04:42] TR Bot Benito Juarez High School to ban cell phone use for students | WGN-TV [04:44] DaemonFC Measure Title: A bill to prohibit the importation of energy products of the Russian Federation, and for other purposes. [04:44] DaemonFC Vote Counts: [04:44] DaemonFC YEAs100 [04:44] DaemonFC NAYs [04:44] DaemonFC [04:44] DaemonFC Nice [04:45] activelow where, when? [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.80 k/sec., IPFS upstream 85.33 average k/sec., average swarm size 240.18 ● Apr 09 [05:00] DaemonFC The Senate, yesterday. [05:00] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:01] MinceR Palpatine? [05:03] activelow propaganda lie, of either side, since a recent report was oil imports from russia into USA _increased_ +40% recently, few days ago [05:04] activelow although, i cannot verify myself, if www.anti-spiegel.ru was credible; the author of this site got access to russian-language documents and insight into the oil/gas trade located in Sankt Petersburg [05:30] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [05:33] AdmFubar https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/06/technology/online-tracking-privacy.html [05:33] Alternative link CloudFlare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/06/technology/online-tracking-privacy.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/06/technology/online-tracking-privacy.html [05:33] TR Bot How Youre Still Being Tracked on the Internet - The New York Times [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.08 k/sec., IPFS upstream 62.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 252.50 ● Apr 09 [06:18] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:34] *gooseheaded has quit (connection closed) [06:35] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [06:43] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.05 k/sec., IPFS upstream 94.48 average k/sec., average swarm size 383.68 ● Apr 09 [07:06] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:10] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [07:15] *gooseheaded has quit (connection closed) [07:21] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [07:38] TR News Clownflare http://0x0.st/obgs.png [07:39] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:40] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@hhbqw3ygpsf8u.irc) has joined #techrights [07:43] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:44] TR News "Okay, wow, my post about an empty file has generated a lot of feedback, mostly for the throwaway line at the bottom" https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2022/04/07/empty/ [07:44] TR Bot Lots of feedback about /bin/true, and more empty file fun [07:44] TR News "QR codes are not inherently dangerous. They are simply a way to store data. However, just as it can be hazardous" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/mobility/how-qr-codes-work-and-what-makes-them-dangerous-a-computer-scientist-explains/90726665 [07:44] TR Bot QR codes: How QR codes work and what makes them dangerous: A computer scientist explains, CIO News, ET CIO [07:44] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:44] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [07:46] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [07:46] TR News "I want to install Ubuntu for playing games on external SSD, so I dont have to touch my boot loader." https://www.boucek.me/blog/installing-ubuntu-from-freebsd/ [07:46] TR Bot Ubuntu from FreeBSD boucek.me [07:49] TR News An update to Raspberry Pi OS Bullseye http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163489#comment-33312 [07:49] TR Bot Raspberry Pi OS removes default "Pi" username, adds experimental support for Wayland | Tux Machines [07:49] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:51] TR News "My coffee-fuelled retrocomputing adventures have reached the point where Ive realised these machines are not only older than people at school now" https://rubenerd.com/computers-and-the-passing-of-time/ [07:51] TR Bot Computers and the passing of time [07:51] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [07:51] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:59] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Apr 09 [08:00] TR News OpenSSH 9.0 Release Notes https://www.openssh.com/txt/release-9.0 [08:01] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@xjmz9dqbmhs6w.irc) has joined #techrights [08:02] TR News "I am on a number of different compiler mailing lists. One of those is the mailing list for the Tiny C Compiler." https://briancallahan.net/blog/20220406.html [08:02] TR Bot Brian Robert Callahan [08:03] TR News "Some of the magic of not having to do any chpwd hooks at all are clearly negated by this" https://blog.cyborch.com/making-nvm-and-volta-co-exist-with-zsh/ [08:03] TR Bot Making Nvm And Volta Co-exist With Zsh [08:05] TR News Don't use Reddit for Linux or BSD related questions https://unixsheikh.com/articles/dont-use-reddit-for-linux-or-bsd-related-questions.html Reddit is a Microsoft propaganda tool http://techrights.org/2013/06/09/reddit-infiltrated/ [08:05] TR Bot Don't use Reddit for Linux or BSD related questions [08:05] TR Bot Microsoft Crime Persists: AstroTurfing a Regular Practice, Reddit Full of Paid Microsoft AstroTurfers | Techrights [08:07] TR News "Fellays concerns are a microcosm of one of the worlds biggest technological problems." https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25433810-300-an-extreme-form-of-encryption-could-solve-big-datas-privacy-problem/ [08:07] Alternative link CloudFlare: newscientist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25433810-300-an-extreme-form-of-encryption-could-solve-big-datas-privacy-problem/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25433810-300-an-extreme-form-of-encryption-could-solve-big-datas-privacy-problem/ [08:07] TR Bot An extreme form of encryption could solve big data's privacy problem | New Scientist [08:08] TR News I was shocked to see that you are taking part in spreading misinformation and harassing me online, she wrote to him in an email. https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/California-math-wars-get-ugly-Accusations-of-17060072.php [08:08] TR Bot California math wars get ugly: Accusations of racism and harassment ignite battle between Stanford and Cal profs [08:08] TR News "This is not the first time that Boaler has received threatening messages in response to her work in education." https://stanforddaily.com/2022/04/07/stanford-and-cal-professors-level-accusations-as-debate-over-state-math-curriculum-rages/ [08:08] Alternative link CloudFlare: stanforddaily.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://stanforddaily.com/2022/04/07/stanford-and-cal-professors-level-accusations-as-debate-over-state-math-curriculum-rages/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://stanforddaily.com/2022/04/07/stanford-and-cal-professors-level-accusations-as-debate-over-state-math-curriculum-rages/ [08:08] TR Bot Stanford and Cal professors level accusations as debate over state math curriculum rages | The Stanford Daily [08:09] TR News "A report by the organization revealed that, in several countries, boys are at greater risk than girls of repeating years of schooling" https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/UNESCO-Warns-That-132-Million-Children-Do-Not-Receive-Education-20220408-0002.html [08:09] TR Bot UNESCO Warns That 132 Million Children Do Not Receive Education | News | teleSUR English [08:09] TR News "The survey also showed that roughly one in three snus users got hold of the product via social media platforms." https://yle.fi/news/3-12397250 [08:09] TR Bot One in three teens buys snus on social media, study finds | News | Yle Uutiset [08:10] TR News "The new document is still just a draft, and device makers wont start using it until its finalized after another round of feedback." https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/8/23016588/medical-device-cybersecurity-fda-congress-hacking [08:10] TR Bot The US is trying to fix medical devices big cybersecurity problem - 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When infected devices attack | CSO Online [08:32] TR News Windows TCO https://www.thecable.ng/alert-malware-targeting-routers-windows-pcs-in-circulation-ncc-warns [08:32] Alternative link CloudFlare: thecable.ng | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thecable.ng/alert-malware-targeting-routers-windows-pcs-in-circulation-ncc-warns https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.thecable.ng/alert-malware-targeting-routers-windows-pcs-in-circulation-ncc-warns [08:32] TR Bot ALERT: Malware targeting routers, Windows PCs in circulation, NCC warns | TheCable [08:44] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [08:44] TR News Windows TCO https://sciencenigeria.com/ncc-uncovers-cyber-threats-to-windows-platforms-routers/ [08:44] TR Bot NCC Uncovers Cyber Threats to Windows Platforms, Routers | Science Nigeria [08:44] TR News Windows TCO https://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/129286/malware/dirtymoe-modules-worm-like-techniques.html [08:44] TR Bot DirtyMoe modules expand the bot using worm-like techniquesSecurity Affairs [08:46] TR News "these approaches all have major downsides. Lets take a quick look at some of these and try to squeeze them into a pass/fail score, ignoring most of the nuance." these approaches all have major downsides. Lets take a quick look at some of these and try to squeeze them into a pass/fail score, ignoring most of the nuance." https://kevincox.ca/2022/04/07/passwords/ [08:46] Alternative link CloudFlare: kevincox.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://kevincox.ca/2022/04/07/passwords/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://kevincox.ca/2022/04/07/passwords/ [08:46] TR Bot Maybe Passwords are the Future [08:48] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [08:48] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [08:55] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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Privacy/Surveillance

[09:03] TR News "According to more than 50 publicly available documents examined by Reuters, dozens of entities in China have over the past four years bought such software," https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/next-gen-technologies/china-uses-ai-software-to-improve-its-surveillance-capabilities/90718476 [09:03] TR Bot China uses AI software to improve its surveillance capabilities, CIO News, ET CIO [09:04] TR News "Only weeks after the groundbreaking decision by the Austrian Data Protection Authority that the continuous use of Google Analytics" https://noyb.eu/en/update-cnil-decides-eu-us-data-transfer-google-analytics-illegal http://techrights.org/2020/09/09/fsfe-privacy-scandals/ [09:04] TR Bot UPDATE: CNIL decides EU-US data transfer to Google Analytics illegal [09:04] TR Bot Amandine Cryptie Jambert, CNIL (Commission Nationale de lInformatique et des Liberts) and FSFE Privacy Scandals | Techrights [09:04] TR News Twitter will die faster now https://www.csmonitor.com/Technology/2022/0405/Elon-Musk-became-Twitter-s-biggest-shareholder.-What-s-next [09:04] TR Bot Musk questions free speech on Twitter. Then, he reveals big stake. - CSMonitor.com [09:05] TR News Pseudoscience https://futurism.com/the-byte/gun-shot-cameras-cops-doors [09:05] Alternative link CloudFlare: futurism.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://futurism.com/the-byte/gun-shot-cameras-cops-doors https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://futurism.com/the-byte/gun-shot-cameras-cops-doors [09:05] TR Bot Gun Shot Detection Cameras Alerting Cops to Slamming Doors Instead [09:05] TR News MangoPi MQ Pro - A $20 RISC-V alternative to Raspberry Pi Zero W Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163530 [09:05] TR Bot MangoPi MQ Pro - A $20 RISC-V alternative to Raspberry Pi Zero W | Tux Machines [09:05] TR News This week in KDE: a feast for the eyes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163531 [09:05] TR Bot This week in KDE: a feast for the eyes | Tux Machines [09:05] TR News Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Adobe Acrobat Reader Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163532 [09:05] TR Bot Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Adobe Acrobat Reader | Tux Machines [09:06] TR News 10 Best Indie RPG Games for Linux in 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163533 [09:06] TR Bot 10 Best Indie RPG Games for Linux in 2022 | Tux Machines [09:06] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163534 [09:06] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:07] TR News Firefox 99 Brings These Two Changes for Linux Users http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163382#comment-33314 [09:07] TR Bot Firefox 99 Released with GTK Overlay Scrollbar Support, Fixes | Tux Machines [09:08] TR News IRC Proceedings: Friday, April 08, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/09/irc-log-080422/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/09/irc-log-080422/ [09:08] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Friday, April 08, 2022 | Techrights [09:08] TR News #HowTo extract a .7z compressed file in Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163535 [09:08] TR Bot How to extract a .7z compressed file in Linux | Tux Machines [09:11] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@idx2hgwaipuwq.irc) has joined #techrights [09:12] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:22] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@w97zfw8tpp52q.irc) has joined #techrights [09:36] TR News "Taherzadeh allegedly provided rent-free apartments, iPhones, surveillance systems" https://text.npr.org/1091426599 [09:36] Alternative link CloudFlare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://text.npr.org/1091426599 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://text.npr.org/1091426599 [09:36] TR Bot 2 men impersonated federal agents to get close to the Secret Service, FBI says [09:36] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:38] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@b3rs3wwrk3aiu.irc) has joined #techrights [09:47] TR News Quality control gemini://galaxyhub.uk/articles/gigabyte-psu.gmi [09:49] *gooseheaded has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:55] TR News "Applebaum: In a way, this is the dark side of globalization, namely that we all now live in the same information market." https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/04/russian-disinformation-social-media-propaganda/629497/ [09:55] Alternative link CloudFlare: theatlantic.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/04/russian-disinformation-social-media-propaganda/629497/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/04/russian-disinformation-social-media-propaganda/629497/ [09:55] TR Bot Anne Applebaum: Social Media Made Spreading Disinformation Easy - The Atlantic [09:55] TR News "According to the report obtained by The Verge, the technical problem dates back from 2019 and began causing a noticeable surge in disinformation in October 2021" https://rsf.org/en/news/facebook-must-explain-how-feed-bug-made-disinformation-more-visible [09:55] Alternative link CloudFlare: rsf.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://rsf.org/en/news/facebook-must-explain-how-feed-bug-made-disinformation-more-visible https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://rsf.org/en/news/facebook-must-explain-how-feed-bug-made-disinformation-more-visible [09:55] TR Bot Facebook must explain how Feed bug made disinformation more visible | RSF [09:58] TR News "Russias last remaining independent media outlets in the country were forced into closure or exile and much of the foreign press corps" https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/08/west-russia-digital-iron-curtain-media/ [09:58] Alternative link CloudFlare: foreignpolicy.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/08/west-russia-digital-iron-curtain-media/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/08/west-russia-digital-iron-curtain-media/ [09:58] TR Bot West Seeks to Pierce Russia's Digital Iron Curtain ● Apr 09 [10:06] TR News Belarussia https://www.voanews.com/a/jailed-belarusian-journalist-charged-with-treason-5-months-before-her-release/6521093.html [10:06] TR Bot Jailed Belarusian Journalist Charged With Treason 5 Months Before Her Release [10:07] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [10:07] TR News Recognizing what is officially retaliation and what is generally a toxic workplace is tricky, especially since they can overlap https://www.teenvogue.com/story/what-is-retaliation-workplace [10:07] Alternative link CloudFlare: teenvogue.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.teenvogue.com/story/what-is-retaliation-workplace https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.teenvogue.com/story/what-is-retaliation-workplace [10:07] TR Bot What Is Retaliation in the Workplace? Here Are Your Rights and What to Know | Teen Vogue [10:18] TR News "growing challenges of combatting disinformation" https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/08/global-report-on-journalism-released/ [10:18] Alternative link CloudFlare: creativecommons.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/08/global-report-on-journalism-released/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://creativecommons.org/2022/04/08/global-report-on-journalism-released/ [10:18] TR Bot Global Report on the State of Journalism Released - Creative Commons [10:21] TR News Twitter users have become UNPAID staff of Elon Musk. They should not persist. Get a life. Stop supporting a man who CENSORED all accounts bearing his name in Twitter. Quit Twitter. [10:24] TR News The Jackson confirmation, like OJ Simpson case, shows quite an accomplishment; they've made it all about race and this way marginalised any actual substance. [10:26] TR News "China was seen as the major enemy. Despite Chinas helpful role in enabling corporate America to drive down labors wage rates by de-industrializing the U.S." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/08/the-dollar-devours-the-euro/ [10:26] Alternative link CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/08/the-dollar-devours-the-euro/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/08/the-dollar-devours-the-euro/ [10:26] TR Bot Dollar Devours the Euro - CounterPunch.org [10:34] TR News gulagtube selective enforcement of policy https://odysee.com/@AlphaNerd:8/youtube-is-so-corrupt-it's-unreal:7 [10:34] Alternative link CloudFlare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@AlphaNerd:8/youtube-is-so-corrupt-it's-unreal:7 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://odysee.com/@AlphaNerd:8/youtube-is-so-corrupt-it's-unreal:7 [10:34] TR Bot YouTube Is So Corrupt It's Unreal [10:34] TR News YouTube Is So Corrupt Its Unreal - Invidious https://yewtu.be/gdb4fTZ27BA Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia [10:34] TR Bot YouTube Is So Corrupt It's Unreal - Invidious [10:37] TR News "Community guidelines GULAG" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=gdb4fTZ27BA GULAG! :-) [10:54] TR News Say "no" to this; create a demand for properly owned things https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/you-will-subscribe-instead-of-own-and:0 [10:54] Alternative link CloudFlare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/you-will-subscribe-instead-of-own-and:0 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/you-will-subscribe-instead-of-own-and:0 [10:54] TR Bot You will subscribe instead of own and you will like it! [10:58] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.03 k/sec., IPFS upstream 63.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 440.70 [10:59] immibis capitalism is incompatible with consumer ownership in the long run. [10:59] immibis producers have to make profits, which they can't do if consumers already own all the stuff they want ● Apr 09 [11:00] kingoffrance thats why there is inflation [11:00] kingoffrance to force "full employment" to make more useless "stuff" [11:02] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@srmd45tugupmu.irc) has joined #techrights [11:02] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@bqjk8mwgbgn3a.irc) has joined #techrights [11:09] kingoffrance if you dont eat carrots you get the stick lol [11:11] immibis ? inflation isn't what forces employment [11:12] immibis interest rates and inflation are somehow linked to forcing employment [11:12] immibis but it's not as simple as "inflation forces employment" [11:12] schestowitz-TR kingoffrance: it is already getting harder to retire [11:12] schestowitz-TR pensions vs savings vs rares [11:12] schestowitz-TR *rates [11:12] schestowitz-TR after covid-19 maybe they want to lower retirement age? no way. [11:12] schestowitz-TR live, work, die [11:13] immibis retiring from savings are also incompatible with consumers owning everything. If consumers own everything they want, why would they give some of it to retired people? [11:14] schestowitz-TR maybe sure the kettle breaks every couple of years [11:14] schestowitz-TR :-) [11:14] immibis retired people get paid by the same mechanisms elite capitalists do [11:14] schestowitz-TR speaking from experience [11:14] schestowitz-TR and the boiler, too [11:14] schestowitz-TR that's a higher premium [11:14] kingoffrance "its not as simple" sure, i just mean it is marketed as a "good thing" [11:14] kingoffrance and more fair [11:15] kingoffrance "velocity" [11:15] kingoffrance that was how it was sold in 1920 anyways [11:15] immibis it's something along the lines of: low interest rates make it easier for the ownership class to get money to pay for people to do work that may or may not be useful. The more available money is, the further down the barrel is scraped. [11:16] immibis when interest rates rise, everyone whose work was useful is fine because they made money by selling something useful; any jobs that were useless get scrapped [11:16] immibis and the owners behind those jobs don't get their money back [11:16] schestowitz-TR I don't follow [11:16] schestowitz-TR can you maybe explain it another way? [11:16] immibis who [11:16] schestowitz-TR low interest for savers? [11:17] immibis low interest for borrowers means that people can borrow money to start businesses [11:17] schestowitz-TR ownership class meaning affluent people? [11:17] immibis some of those businesses do something useful and some do not [11:17] immibis if the business does something useful, it makes its money back by the time interest rates rise and it has to repay its loans [11:17] immibis the lower interest rates are, the longer a business doesn't have to make money [11:17] schestowitz-TR ok, I get it now [11:18] immibis ownership class = people who make money by owning things. In our capitalist economy, they are basically in charge of deciding which people do what. [11:18] TR News = [11:19] TR News iophk: "lots of FUD about source code and copyright in the second half" https://odysee.com/missouri-sb1086-agricultural-right-to:38ca26e0aa38cce942132ff91f067dfedc3ea55f [11:19] Alternative link CloudFlare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/missouri-sb1086-agricultural-right-to:38ca26e0aa38cce942132ff91f067dfedc3ea55f https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://odysee.com/missouri-sb1086-agricultural-right-to:38ca26e0aa38cce942132ff91f067dfedc3ea55f [11:19] TR Bot Missouri SB1086 Agricultural Right to Repair bill testimony [11:20] immibis don't be fooled into thinking everyone is equal: we effectively have a two-tier society with nobility on top and serfs on the bottom. Sure, there's a lot more mobility and fuzziness than when the system was formalized... but it's still there, mostly [11:20] TR News This is the end, my friend? https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/04/07/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-press-freedom/ [11:20] TR Bot The Beginning of the End For Press Freedom neritam [11:20] kingoffrance serfs had the right to build a hovel and work the land :) [11:21] immibis kingoffrance: in exchange for giving a big part of their output to the lord, right? [11:21] immibis we call that "rent" [11:21] kingoffrance yes, i believe so. lord would even find them a partner...or they could purchase their way out lol [11:21] immibis purchasing their way out is called "buying a house" [11:21] kingoffrance i mean, arranged marriages about money [11:21] immibis it's the same system, we just fooled ourselves into thinking it's ethical now [11:22] kingoffrance the lord just wanted his cut is all [11:22] immibis people still marry for money, it's just not their parents who tell them to [11:24] schestowitz-TR it results in misery and divorce [11:24] schestowitz-TR which is, [11:24] schestowitz-TR you know, [11:24] schestowitz-TR good for the owenrship class [11:24] immibis and temporary freedom [11:25] schestowitz-TR two of each [11:25] schestowitz-TR two homes [11:25] schestowitz-TR two lawn mowers [11:25] schestowitz-TR etc. [11:25] schestowitz-TR they love births [11:25] schestowitz-TR it means more consumers [11:25] schestowitz-TR but marriages lower spendings sometimes [11:25] schestowitz-TR so then the home "splits" [11:25] schestowitz-TR more to sell [11:26] immibis births is currently something they are failing at. which is not too terrible since we exceeded earth's carrying capacity [11:26] schestowitz-TR don't worry [11:26] schestowitz-TR throw the old clunker [11:26] schestowitz-TR buy a "green" car [11:26] schestowitz-TR it's made of trees! [11:26] immibis you see lots of right-wingers (i.e. owning class suckups) complaining about low birth rate [11:26] schestowitz-TR actually, no, taking down trees is bad [11:29] TR News "For the roots of our contemporary attitudes toward travel we must go back to the eighteenth century, to the golden age of the Grand Tour" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/08/travelers-sour-and-sentimental-3/ [11:29] Alternative link CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/08/travelers-sour-and-sentimental-3/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/08/travelers-sour-and-sentimental-3/ [11:29] TR Bot Sour and Sentimental - CounterPunch.org [11:30] TR News Pandemics https://therevelator.org/best-practices-confront-pandemics/" [11:30] TR Bot Best Practices to Confront Pandemics at the Source The Revelator [11:34] TR News "But, those breakdowns are not happening where people live. Therefore, other than scientists, who sees cascading ice sheets, crumbling permafrost, tens of thousands of Alaskan and Siberian thermokarst lakes bubbling methane, Greenlands Helheim glacier cascading into the sea" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/08/the-great-barrier-reef-on-life-support/ [11:34] Alternative link CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/08/the-great-barrier-reef-on-life-support/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/08/the-great-barrier-reef-on-life-support/ [11:34] TR Bot Great Barrier Reef on Life Support - CounterPunch.org [11:35] kingoffrance "you see lots of right-wingers (i.e. owning class suckups) complaining about low birth rate" yes, i never understood why that is a problem. did people forget how to reproduce? is that technology lost? no. [11:36] schestowitz-TR this is pushed to them by media [11:36] schestowitz-TR and it appeals to race card [11:36] schestowitz-TR "those other people reproduce faster" [11:36] schestowitz-TR it's like the "great replacement" FUD [11:37] schestowitz-TR never bothered norway or sweden that china has a population like 300 times bigger [11:37] schestowitz-TR sweden grew with immigration [11:37] immibis kingoffrance: they think it's a bad thing because of "racial replacement" [11:38] immibis the real problem is that the economy stops people who want to reproduce from reproducing, contributing to misery [11:38] immibis but instead of looking for actual problems, it's somehow always the jews' fault, or black people [11:38] schestowitz-TR more so women afaik [11:39] TR News It's not SMART https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/how-to-escape-the-smartphone-duopoly-of-apple-google-with-sailfish-os/ [11:39] Alternative link CloudFlare: privateinternetaccess.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/how-to-escape-the-smartphone-duopoly-of-apple-google-with-sailfish-os/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/how-to-escape-the-smartphone-duopoly-of-apple-google-with-sailfish-os/ [11:39] TR Bot How to Escape The Smartphone Duopoly of Apple & Google with Sailfish OS [11:40] schestowitz-TR immibis: some people dread living without a "phone" ^ [11:40] schestowitz-TR or without a "HI!" phone [11:41] schestowitz-TR the strongest form of protest or rejection of "the system" is to not give a shit and not submit to it [11:41] schestowitz-TR their definition of "success" is not beneficial to you [11:42] schestowitz-TR but to the system's perpetrators/beneficiaries [11:42] schestowitz-TR when you stop giving a shit they have almost no power over you [11:42] DaemonFC Poor people have a lot of kids because they're usually not smart enough to know or care how that will effect them. [11:42] DaemonFC And they don't learn the lesson the first time, and keep going. [11:43] schestowitz-TR no [11:43] DaemonFC And because the welfare state hides the fact that it really costs over a million and a half dollars to raise a criminal who picks up a gun. [11:43] schestowitz-TR you over-simplify it [11:43] schestowitz-TR with tropes [11:43] schestowitz-TR eating healthy is hard [11:43] schestowitz-TR it's more expensive [11:43] schestowitz-TR having sex without getting pregnant, esp. in poor countries, is not easy [11:43] schestowitz-TR abortions notwithstanding [11:43] DaemonFC Do you know what a criminal trial costs so that Jimmy In-and-Out can clog up the courts and prisons later? [11:43] DaemonFC Those aren't cheap. The trials or the prisons. [11:44] schestowitz-TR so you are blaming poor people for their poverty [11:44] DaemonFC A lot of it is their fault. [11:44] schestowitz-TR since you're gay you don't have this problem [11:44] DaemonFC If they'd get off her and plan their future better, they could just buy a fucking car instead of financing a 1995 at a pay here lot for 30% interest. [11:44] DaemonFC Then complaining that their life is all going wrong for some strange reason. [11:45] schestowitz-TR the system does it to them [11:45] schestowitz-TR and reinforces it [11:45] schestowitz-TR more so in the US [11:45] DaemonFC O RLY!? [11:45] schestowitz-TR because it's a cruel system [11:45] schestowitz-TR not even basic health needs covered [11:45] DaemonFC The system forces them to fuck and sign up for welfare? [11:45] DaemonFC Do the send the police in to enforce that by law? [11:46] schestowitz-TR afaik, you too signed up for it [11:46] DaemonFC If you don't have the money, don't have the kids. [11:46] schestowitz-TR the poor poor-shamer [11:46] schestowitz-TR who shames people for crimes [11:46] DaemonFC Don't have the damned kids. [11:46] schestowitz-TR having got arrested himself [11:46] schestowitz-TR and who files for bankruptcy [11:46] schestowitz-TR to avoid paying about 100k dollars in debt [11:46] DaemonFC More than that. [11:46] DaemonFC But, here's the thing. [11:46] schestowitz-TR but... [11:47] DaemonFC I knew that it was possible to right the ship if I filed then and there. [11:47] DaemonFC Before Mandy started earning a bunch of money and the trustee says "Well, you have something now, so I'm taking that.". [11:48] DaemonFC If I filed a few months later, then no. They would have taken something for the bill collectors from somewhere. [11:48] schestowitz-TR MinceR: telex has been very busy lately [11:48] schestowitz-TR in English too [11:48] schestowitz-TR you recommended the site [11:48] schestowitz-TR escapees of the Orban-stolen portal [11:48] schestowitz-TR inde.hu? [11:48] schestowitz-TR *index [11:48] DaemonFC I could also just stay judgment proof. [11:49] DaemonFC It's not that difficult to tie up your creditors until doomsday even without filing bankruptcy. [11:49] immibis DaemonFC: should only wealthy people reproduce? [11:49] immibis DaemonFC: how much does it cost to raise a productive member of society? Negative cost, right? [11:49] DaemonFC The government should quit subsidizing it. It's undesirable. [11:49] schestowitz-TR fore the "superior genes"? :-) [11:49] kingoffrance +1 believe that was roughly the correct usage of doomsday [11:49] DaemonFC It causes pollution and unemployment. [11:50] immibis in my experience, people like DaemonFC typically do want eugenics with extra steps [11:50] DaemonFC Moreover, if people had fewer kids, wages would go up. [11:50] DaemonFC Without a million people waiting for your job where you came from, employers couldn't threaten it. [11:50] schestowitz-TR no [11:50] immibis I have seen birth rates described as a supply-and-demand problem, yes. Should people be created only when there is a demand for them? [11:50] schestowitz-TR the production is elsewhere [11:50] DaemonFC Which is why they like the status quo. [11:50] schestowitz-TR already [11:50] schestowitz-TR [10:26] "China was seen as the major enemy. Despite Chinas helpful role in enabling corporate America to drive down labors wage rates by de-industrializing the U.S." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/08/the-dollar-devours-the-euro/ [11:50] Alternative link CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/08/the-dollar-devours-the-euro/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/08/the-dollar-devours-the-euro/ [11:50] TR Bot Dollar Devours the Euro - CounterPunch.org [11:50] immibis Is there a demand for DaemonFC ? [11:51] DaemonFC They just tell the politicians to keep doing what they're doing. [11:51] DaemonFC They can make the have littles pay taxes so the have nots can produce a surplus of people. [11:51] schestowitz-TR the eugenics system envisioned by euhenicists would eliminate ryan [11:51] DaemonFC Then it drives down the wages they have to pay. [11:51] schestowitz-TR "are you employed? no. [11:51] schestowitz-TR "are you gay? yes" [11:51] DaemonFC the eugenics system envisioned by euhenicists would eliminate ryan [11:51] DaemonFC Then I wouldn't be here to notice it, would I? [11:51] schestowitz-TR "thank you. you are the weakest link, goodbye" [11:52] DaemonFC So it's a moot point. [11:52] DaemonFC I'm not arguing for some Nazi-style murder camps. [11:52] DaemonFC I'm saying that, going forward, we need reforms. [11:52] immibis DaemonFC: you seem to be wanting to control who is born and who is not born [11:52] DaemonFC Reforms fade in over years and don't involve murdering people who are already here because of someone else's fault. [11:53] immibis preventing certain people from being born is still eugenics and/or genocide [11:54] DaemonFC It's hardly my fault what my parents did. Instead of finishing their job they decided to split up and go to war with each other using the courts and try playing "You owe me child support for a boob job!", "OH YEAH!? Well, I'm canceling the health insurance on the kids! Have fun with that mess!". [11:54] DaemonFC "Your honor, we want him in contempt!" "OH YEAH!? I WANT HER IN CONTEMPT!" [11:55] schestowitz-TR immibis: ethnic cleansing [11:55] schestowitz-TR genocide involves a killing [11:55] schestowitz-TR ethnics cleansing is relocation and depopulation [11:56] DaemonFC There shouldn't just be an asset test to have a license to have kids, there should be a psychiatric test, a criminal background check, and quite a few other things, including a blood screening for high risk disease traits. [11:56] DaemonFC I mean, like, right now it's legal for a guy who was convicted of fucking kids to have kids. [11:56] DaemonFC Does anyone here agree that should happen? [11:56] DaemonFC Show of hands? [11:57] DaemonFC Where does anyone see a guy with armed robbery and sex offender list going if he has kids? [11:57] DaemonFC Somewhere good? Show of hands? [11:57] TR News Electricity cannot be derived from nothing though https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/08/gas-prices-are-highso-electrify [11:57] Alternative link CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/08/gas-prices-are-highso-electrify https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/08/gas-prices-are-highso-electrify [11:57] TR Bot Opinion | Gas Prices Are High...So Electrify | Bruce Mirken [11:58] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: by legal you mean it was not banned [11:58] schestowitz-TR laws do not say what's allowed [11:58] schestowitz-TR but what is not allowed [11:58] schestowitz-TR you suggest banning many more things [11:58] DaemonFC The Big Tent parties do not represent me. Neither one of them are proposing giving serious sex offenders the electric chair. [11:58] DaemonFC Certainly not in Illinois. [11:58] schestowitz-TR and many of the things you do are candidates for banning [11:58] DaemonFC If it was up to me, anyone on there with a victim under 13 would get the electric bleachers. [11:59] schestowitz-TR it's good you are not a politician [11:59] DaemonFC No, politicians want votes from criminals. ● Apr 09 [12:00] DaemonFC The party that doesn't want felons voting is the Republican Party because they know it'll be 80% Democrats. [12:00] DaemonFC The Democrats get 80% from people with armed robbery and fucking kids. [12:00] schestowitz-TR anyway, this isn't about tech anymore [12:00] DaemonFC Who wants them voting? The Democrats! Who is soft on them? The Democrats! [12:00] schestowitz-TR and your views are on the further right, not even conservative [12:00] schestowitz-TR maybe take it to #techpol [12:01] schestowitz-TR where you can take to another bigot [12:01] schestowitz-TR *talk [12:01] DaemonFC So you think Rick Jones should be at his mom's house in Arizona and not on a watch list? [12:01] DaemonFC Is that justice? [12:01] schestowitz-TR you just spew out Trumpist lis [12:01] schestowitz-TR *lies [12:01] DaemonFC Not a day in prison. [12:01] schestowitz-TR insinuating Democrats are the "criminals' party" [12:01] schestowitz-TR take it to another channel [12:02] schestowitz-TR you ruin this one [12:02] DaemonFC If the Democrats lose the Governor's office in Illinois somehow they had it coming. [12:03] DaemonFC They've lurched things too far to the left for the state's voters and that's one of the offices they can't rig like Orban did in Hungary. [12:03] TR News COVID aspects ignored or overlooked by MSM https://www.projectcensored.org/homeless-students-further-marginalized-by-covid-19/ https://www.projectcensored.org/global-displacement-of-covid-orphans-the-pandemics-hidden-consequence/ [12:03] Alternative link CloudFlare: projectcensored.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.projectcensored.org/homeless-students-further-marginalized-by-covid-19/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.projectcensored.org/homeless-students-further-marginalized-by-covid-19/ [12:03] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/homeless-students-further-marginalized-by-covid-19/ ) [12:03] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/global-displacement-of-covid-orphans-the-pandemics-hidden-consequence/ ) [12:03] TR News surveillance advertising https://www.projectcensored.org/major-media-outlets-lobby-against-regulation-of-surveillance-advertising/ [12:03] Alternative link CloudFlare: projectcensored.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.projectcensored.org/major-media-outlets-lobby-against-regulation-of-surveillance-advertising/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.projectcensored.org/major-media-outlets-lobby-against-regulation-of-surveillance-advertising/ [12:03] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/major-media-outlets-lobby-against-regulation-of-surveillance-advertising/ ) [12:04] DaemonFC Most people living here have no choice at all in who represents them. The districts were so rigged by the Democrats that over 80% won't even have an opposing candidate filing to run. [12:04] DaemonFC The "Democratic" party. [12:04] schestowitz-TR ----> #techpol [12:05] DaemonFC This is what Stallman would have you believe is a red state problem. [12:05] DaemonFC A state that has lost its legitimacy and deserves to have its laws ignored because people have no choice in who writes them. [12:05] TR News "Nearly every rumor about NSO Group has been proven true, despite plenty of early denials by the (oh, I guess well be nice) embattled malware" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/08/nso-confirms-it-gave-israeli-police-access-to-malware-to-spy-on-israelis/ [12:05] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/08/nso-confirms-it-gave-israeli-police-access-to-malware-to-spy-on-israelis/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/08/nso-confirms-it-gave-israeli-police-access-to-malware-to-spy-on-israelis/ [12:05] TR Bot Confirms It Gave Israeli Police Access To Malware To Spy On Israelis | Techdirt [12:07] DaemonFC If you handed map making to a computer program and told it just to respect city and county borders in making the map and to respect communities with similar interests and that everything had to be compact and contiguous, the Democrats would lose a minimum of 1/5th of their seats in the state House. [12:08] DaemonFC So what they do is they look at how people vote and then they draw all of these "Goofy kicking Donald Duck" and "Homer Simpson" shaped districts that have nothing in common. [12:09] DaemonFC Even within the counties, right, there's room to have a computer program draw the most unfair districts possible to push out every member for the opposing party and it can be unanimously Democrat, or close to it. [12:09] DaemonFC That's what they've done. I go to vote, and there's usually a ballot full of no choices at all. [12:10] DaemonFC If you even mark something you're saying you're okay with this. [12:10] activelow the idea, secret individual elections were the equivalent of democracy, this was considered "19th century liberalism" and weak, by Carl Schmitt; just cought up reading a little [12:10] DaemonFC This is like playing on Cheat Mode so there's no possibility that you MIGHT lose. [12:11] DaemonFC I don't play games on cheat mode because they're fucking boring. [12:11] DaemonFC The fun comes from the possibility that you might lose. [12:13] DaemonFC Most of them started having cheat modes as either a development tool just to make sure the levels worked or changing the binary at runtime to disregard hitscans and break ammo counters and stuff. [12:13] DaemonFC So, the fact that they had an industry selling games and an industry selling Game Genie systems tells you something. It's the self-esteem movement. [12:13] DaemonFC Everyone's really good at something when there's no way to lose. Imagine that. [12:14] DaemonFC People don't thrive in environments with no challenges. [12:14] DaemonFC They stagnate. They become stupid. They settle for less. [12:15] DaemonFC Then once people are stupid and stagnant and they get away with that, they pass it along in shitty parenting. [12:15] DaemonFC Most people simply aren't going to be good parents, and many of those people won't even do the bare minimum in all tasks that are required of them. [12:16] DaemonFC So instead of perpetuating vicious cycles due to some sense of wanting to call yourself a liberal, why not reform the system and say this is not good. [12:16] activelow reform? how? [12:17] *activelow hesitates to cite some more of his recent findings [12:17] DaemonFC My parents weren't poor, so they wouldn't fail by that measure, but if the state investigated them and went rooting through my dad's porn collection and the fact that he wouldn't even give my mother an allowance out of her own money, they would have seen enough to know things weren't right in that house. [12:18] DaemonFC If they audited their tax returns, they would have known that they weren't honest people. They were willing to commit perjury to further tax evasion. [12:19] DaemonFC Anyway, kids are always punished for what their parents do. [12:20] DaemonFC So giving bad people the privilege of having kids just punishes the kids. The parents won't give a shit because the state does nothing except give them money for doing it. [12:21] DaemonFC I wouldn't even call this eugenics, just more like common sense. [12:21] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR acts like I'm some kind of Nazi that would even exclude myself from my own rules. [12:22] activelow psychological tests, at best confirm a burgeouse facade, compliance with government testing [12:22] DaemonFC The fact that my parents had the right to have kids came from a government that was way too liberal, and it should never have been allowed. [12:22] *WanderleiN (~b9dc64fe@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [12:24] DaemonFC I don't think people should show up with guns and say "You must be this tall to go on living.". Figuratively speaking. That would be the Nazi platform. The first thing the Nazis did was kill anyone that they thought would be more liability than asset and call it a "mercy". [12:24] DaemonFC They didn't ask any of those people if they wanted to die. They didn't even care about or try to make it painless. [12:25] DaemonFC In fact, our system goes to the other extreme. It won't allow people to die if they want too, if they're in a lot of pain and their life is going very badly. [12:25] DaemonFC If you say it, you'll get committed. Even if you're 103 with end stage cancer. [12:26] DaemonFC *to [12:26] DaemonFC psychological tests, at best confirm a burgeouse facade, compliance with government testing [12:26] DaemonFC There are people who have obvious psychological problems. But in many cases it's another form of social control. Just less harsh than the prison system. [12:27] DaemonFC I don't agree with hate crime laws because they create political prisoners. That's another form of social control. [12:27] TR News "Cops lie." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/bar-security-camera-exposes-off-duty-officers-lies-about-their-unprovoked-assault-of-another-bar-patron/ [12:27] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/bar-security-camera-exposes-off-duty-officers-lies-about-their-unprovoked-assault-of-another-bar-patron/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/07/bar-security-camera-exposes-off-duty-officers-lies-about-their-unprovoked-assault-of-another-bar-patron/ [12:27] TR Bot Security Camera Exposes Off-Duty Officers Lies About Their Unprovoked Assault Of Another Bar Patron | Techdirt [12:28] TR News TSAs threat assessment https://papersplease.org/wp/2022/04/08/amtrak-gave-train-reservations-to-the-tsa-for-a-profiling-test/ [12:28] TR Bot Amtrak gave train reservations to the TSA for a profiling test Papers, Please! [12:28] DaemonFC They're just something that gets tossed in out of some sort of petty spite from "society" that has chosen to elevate some people above the rest due to a list of things. [12:29] DaemonFC "Oh, you killed him. Here's 50 years. But he happened to be gay, you didn't know that, but here's another 20 because you're obviously a Trump voter." [12:30] DaemonFC The only people who support hate crimes laws are the people who are elevated above the rest of society by them somehow. [12:30] TR News Microsoft https://torrentfreak.com/dmca-notices-took-down-19276-github-projects-last-year-220408/ [12:30] Alternative link CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/dmca-notices-took-down-19276-github-projects-last-year-220408/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/dmca-notices-took-down-19276-github-projects-last-year-220408/ [12:30] TR Bot Notices Took Down 19,276 GitHub Projects Last year * TorrentFreak [12:30] TR News "Major Hollywood studios and Netflix have asked the European Commission for assistance in their global anti-piracy fight" https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-asks-eu-for-iptv-torrents-piracy-support-services-crackdown-220408/ [12:30] Alternative link CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-asks-eu-for-iptv-torrents-piracy-support-services-crackdown-220408/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-asks-eu-for-iptv-torrents-piracy-support-services-crackdown-220408/ [12:30] TR Bot Asks EU For IPTV, Torrents & Piracy Support Services Crackdown * TorrentFreak [12:31] activelow DaemonFC: once hate crime laws are necessary, they are probably useless [12:32] WanderleiN putins piracy support already paid out for the mpa [12:32] DaemonFC They just put more pressure on people to plea bargain to a shitty deal to make the hate crime enhancement go away. Then liberals say plea bargaining is cruel. [12:33] DaemonFC So the prosecutors are incentivized to find reasons why you hated a person during the commission of a crime, even if you didn't. Makes the prosecutors and police have an easy day at the office. [12:33] TR News "We know that readers are familiar with the global chip shortage and its effects on product availability." https://hackaday.com/2022/04/08/its-almost-a-new-raspberry-pi-compute-module-4-but-not-quite/ [12:33] TR Bot Almost A New Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4. But Not Quite | Hackaday [12:33] DaemonFC Then when a black guy kills a gay man, what happens? [12:33] DaemonFC It wasn't a hate crime. You don't charge black people with hate crime. [12:34] DaemonFC So, then there's even more double standards. [12:34] DaemonFC It's positively Orwellian. [12:34] DaemonFC People willfully misinterpret what I say to attack me. I'm getting used to it. [12:35] DaemonFC I didn't say Matthew Garrett shouldn't own a bike and have somewhere to ride it. [12:35] DaemonFC I said it shouldn't be on the street with cars where he can complain if someone doors him while he's not looking. [12:35] DaemonFC It should be on a path off to the side somewhere, where cars don't go. [12:36] DaemonFC But you take "bikes shouldn't be on the road because it creates hazards for everyone" and you say, "Oh he hates bicycles, the Earth, and wants pollution!". [12:37] DaemonFC Most American cities are big enough to build a bike path away from the road, cheaply. [12:37] DaemonFC Why isn't it happening? [12:37] activelow because it isn't possible for cheap in most cities [12:37] DaemonFC They want people to feel like they'll definitely be killed at some point if they bike on the road, and they're right! [12:37] DaemonFC They probably will be! [12:38] DaemonFC And it'll be some Mexican that panics that they'll get caught by ICE and speeds off if it happens where I live, most of the time. [12:39] WanderleiN DaemonFC are you chat bot? [12:39] DaemonFC No. [12:40] DaemonFC because it isn't possible for cheap in most cities [12:40] DaemonFC It is. For what they charge in taxes in San Francisco, Matthew Garrett should be mad if they can't figure this out. [12:40] DaemonFC Crooked politicians always figure out a way to jack up taxes and give you nothing. [12:44] DaemonFC Every time you ask what they're doing with the taxes they already take from you, they switch to saying they just need more and don't worry with what they're spending the money they have on. 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( status 0 @ https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=rK9Y-a1-6JU ) [13:05] DaemonFC The fact that it was designed before liberals in California set fuel economy standards. [13:05] DaemonFC Like the Ford Vulcan and Modular V8. [13:05] TR News Twitter is s dying platform. Now it's just storytelling to keep investors from fleeing https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/08/checking-in-on-twitters-attempt-to-move-to-protocols-instead-of-platforms/ [13:05] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/08/checking-in-on-twitters-attempt-to-move-to-protocols-instead-of-platforms/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/08/checking-in-on-twitters-attempt-to-move-to-protocols-instead-of-platforms/ [13:05] TR Bot In On Twitters Attempt To Move To Protocols Instead Of Platforms | Techdirt [13:06] TR News "Some (mainly Democrats) are trying to push for companies to remove more content. Some (mainly Republicans) are pushing companies to stop removing certain kinds of content" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/08/state-legislators-are-demanding-websites-moderate-less-and-moderate-more-federal-law-prohibits-both/ [13:06] Alternative link CloudFlare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/08/state-legislators-are-demanding-websites-moderate-less-and-moderate-more-federal-law-prohibits-both/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/08/state-legislators-are-demanding-websites-moderate-less-and-moderate-more-federal-law-prohibits-both/ [13:06] TR Bot Legislators Are Demanding Websites Moderate Less AND Moderate More; Federal Law Prohibits Both | Techdirt [13:06] DaemonFC The 3800 V6 gets plenty of MPG on the highway. [13:06] TR News What a free country... https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/08/1100-banned-books-across-26-states-report-shows-shocking-censorship [13:06] Alternative link CloudFlare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/08/1100-banned-books-across-26-states-report-shows-shocking-censorship https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/08/1100-banned-books-across-26-states-report-shows-shocking-censorship [13:07] TR Bot 1,100+ Banned Books Across 26 States: Report Shows 'Shocking' Censorship [13:07] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@pyp4jymqza7dw.irc) has joined #techrights [13:08] DaemonFC The guy talks about the Stealership service department, schestowitz-TR [13:08] DaemonFC Telling the guy he's got a huge oil leak. So he takes it to his usual mechanic and it's not leaking anywhere. [13:09] DaemonFC Dealers do this ALL THE TIME. You want the most crooked repair shop, it's probably not a Car-X or a Meineke. [13:09] DaemonFC It's probably the dealer. [13:09] TR News Notice the very high acceptance ratio; Microsoft loves open source like it loves the OSI in its back pocket and inside the bin http://techrights.org/2022/04/09/microsoft-github-is-censorship/ [13:09] DaemonFC They don't actually make good margins on sales, so they start padding repair bills and making up work that doesn't even need to be done. [13:09] DaemonFC I had a Ford dealer tell me my whole suspension looked awful on the Crown Victoria and it would cost me thousands to repair and that I needed a new car. [13:10] DaemonFC So I drove it over to the shop and got it on the lift and looked at EVERYTHING on the suspension. [13:10] DaemonFC No trouble at all except for two front ball joints that had gone dry, and cost me $150 total to fix. [13:11] TR News "As an industry, we're still having the same problems that we used to have in the 80's. Agile has been around for 20 years now, but why isn't agile itself agile? It hasn't changed in 20 years. Many companies use agile ad something tacked on like cardboard spoilers on a bad car." gemini://jfh.me/posts/2019-07-28-grows-notes.gmi [13:11] DaemonFC That was Southworth Ford in Marion, Indiana that told me the whole suspension was bad when I came in with an oil change coupon. [13:12] DaemonFC Then Pace Chevrolet in Huntington, Indiana told someone I know that they needed $3,000 worth of work, so they paid for it, and then when they had it in another shop, the mechanic there told him the original parts were still on the car, which the dealership claimed to have replaced. [13:14] DaemonFC Dealership service is the worst and they are using proprietary software now to enforce a monopoly so you can't go anywhere else even if you want to. [13:14] DaemonFC WIth the 2008 Buick, I can keep going to Car-X. [13:14] DaemonFC A lot of the parts on it are the same exact fit as on the 2003 Impala. [13:14] DaemonFC But if I go to the dealer, they want $500 an hour. Why? [13:14] DaemonFC Because if you have a 2022 Buick, you have to go to the dealer. [13:14] DaemonFC Even after the warranty is over, because of the software. [13:14] DaemonFC So $150 an hour to go to Car-X or $500 an hour for the dealer. [13:15] DaemonFC Then you pray to God the dealer isn't ripping you off and billing you for things they don't even do. [13:15] TR News "For years, weve noted how telecom and media giants have been trying to force big tech to give them huge sums of money for no reason." ttps://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/08/streaming-providers-tell-fcc-that-taxing-streaming-tv-would-be-dumb/ [13:16] DaemonFC Then they're always bragging you only get "factory trained" technicians at the dealer. The factory might be training a 25 year old mechanic to work on their newer models, but not on things from the 80s and 90s. [13:16] TR News "Firewalls. 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[13:18] DaemonFC Almost like they have a deal or something. [13:18] DaemonFC Nobody has tried to organize a Walmart store since Walmart closed the entire store down the last time. [13:19] schestowitz-TR Walmart lost money then [13:19] schestowitz-TR then do it again [13:19] schestowitz-TR and again [13:19] schestowitz-TR and Walmart might realise it's better to reach some compromise [13:20] DaemonFC Sam Walton said he'd shut down every store and go out of business before he allowed a union in. [13:20] *gooseheaded has quit (connection closed) [13:21] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@6byxczt6txq2u.irc) has joined #techrights [13:21] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, It's almost like a cult. [13:22] DaemonFC All of the management style of Sam Walton is still taught to all managers there today. [13:22] DaemonFC If you go into a Chinese Walmart, there's a huge Sam Walton staring at you. [13:22] DaemonFC He's been dead for 30 years. [13:22] DaemonFC They didn't embalm him like Lenin, but I mean.... [13:25] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:32] Ariadne its okay, they preserved his ford f-150 truck, and have it on display at the walmart museum [13:32] DaemonFC Nice. [13:32] DaemonFC I actually like the GM engines better in one way. [13:33] DaemonFC If a coil pack goes bad, it is RIGHT THERE and all you have to do is unscrew it and buy one for like $30 and put it back on. [13:33] DaemonFC It's usually right there and you don't even have to fumble to get to it. [13:35] DaemonFC Ariadne, I thought about just keeping the Impala around as sort of a spare car for a while after I get the Buick. [13:35] DaemonFC Other than the electrical glitch that happens maybe once or twice a year for a few seconds, it's not really doing anything wrong. [13:35] DaemonFC It has 281,000 miles on it right now. [13:36] DaemonFC I asked mom why she got rid of that red 1968 Buick with the V8 and she said my dad wouldn't let her have any of her own money so she couldn't even afford to get the license plates renewed. [13:37] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, All this old stuff runs for damned near forever if you just keep it serviced. [13:37] DaemonFC You'll absolutely never see that again. [13:37] DaemonFC Newer machines are trash. [13:39] DaemonFC That mechanic is right. The engines GM replaced the 3800 V6 with are trash trash trash. [13:39] DaemonFC Mom's sounds like there's a spun bearing in there rattling around. [13:39] DaemonFC It only has 140,000 miles on it! [13:39] DaemonFC That's half of the 2003's and the 2003 is purring like a kitten. [13:41] DaemonFC The only reason GM could have for the absolute travesty that are the 3.6 and 3.5 V6 engines are that they're so unreliable that you'll be back to buy a new car, because apparently a lot of people like her get burned over and over and never learn a damned thing. [13:41] DaemonFC Like they're being cheated and they should just find the latest model year that still worked okay and drive that. [13:42] DaemonFC It's almost never a major part of the 3800 V6 that needs attention, especially the later ones (Series III) with the improved connecting rods. [13:42] DaemonFC It's always some stupid peripheral part like a sensor or EGR valve or a gasket maybe. [13:43] DaemonFC It's almost never the engine. Just technically the engine. [13:43] DaemonFC Aluminum, which is in the newer engines, doesn't belong anywhere near an engine. [13:43] DaemonFC It's an engine designed by politicians in California that's all aluminum. [13:44] DaemonFC It's not a man's engine. [13:44] DaemonFC It's not an engine that says "I'm an engine! Give me your best shot! I can take it!". [13:44] DaemonFC It's some wimpy liberal engine. [13:45] DaemonFC It saves you like a few tanks of gas over the life of the car, which is 1/3rd of what an engine made of steel and cast iron would do. [13:45] DaemonFC Fucking California Air Resource Board. [13:46] DaemonFC Trump was absolutely right in getting rid of CARB's waiver. People are now heading for a disaster where they can't even afford a ride to work and back because of California and Biden. [13:46] *CrystalMath (~coderain@uujn332ke2ncw.irc) has joined #techrights [13:47] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:49] DaemonFC Another nice thing you find out about with tiny cars is that when the mechanic has to disassemble half the piece of shit to replace an alternator or something, you pay him for another 2-3 hours. [13:49] DaemonFC So you never save enough money on a new car for any improvement in gas mileage. [13:49] DaemonFC You just pay in unreliability and repair costs, and then way too soon, another car. [13:50] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, It's not just Apple. [13:51] DaemonFC It's a disposable society where "men" can't even change an air filter or a spark plug. [13:52] DaemonFC Spark plugs aren't even difficult anymore usually. Many times, you don't even need a gap tool anymore. You just remove the old ones, put the new ones in. [13:52] DaemonFC Ariadne, I did learn something though. [13:52] WanderleiN why would you want to do that? [13:53] DaemonFC Don't put Iridium spark plugs in the 3800 V6 if you want your old coil packs to work much longer. [13:53] DaemonFC Those forums I was reading are right. I did it, and it finished off the original coil packs. I had to replace them all. [13:53] DaemonFC But it was only like $90 to do that. [13:54] DaemonFC why would you want to do that? [13:54] DaemonFC Do some jobs yourself? [13:54] DaemonFC Because when you see a shop saying $100 to change an engine air filter, and you don't want to pay $100 to change an engine air filter when you can do it in 5 minutes with a $8 filter and a screwdriver. [13:55] DaemonFC I had to replace the cabin air filter on the 2003 as well, and that's not difficult. It had never been done though. [13:56] DaemonFC I found a bunch of seed pods and twigs from trees, three old cigarette butts, and a mound of dirt on top of the old one. I had to shove a vacuum cleaner into it before I took it out so I wouldn't drop any onto the blower motor. [13:56] WanderleiN platinum spark plugs aree the best [13:57] DaemonFC Yeah, double platinums. [13:57] DaemonFC The Crown Victoria liked them. [13:57] DaemonFC Iridiums last longer, but they put too much resistance on the ignition system. [13:57] WanderleiN who? [13:57] DaemonFC You can risk frying the ignition control module and the coil packs. [13:58] DaemonFC They do run so hot that it's hard to foul them up with carbon deposits though. [13:58] DaemonFC So they're marketed as "self-cleaning". [13:58] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@v3dbj67t2h8z2.irc) has joined #techrights [13:59] DaemonFC Honestly, I'm not sure whether it's better to just leave those alone, because the benefit is you'll never have to change your spark plugs again, but the downside is that they can cause failure that travels up the ignition system. ● Apr 09 [14:00] DaemonFC It's cheaper to just plan on replacing the platinum plugs once more during the life of the car than it is to replace an ignition control module and all of your coil packs. [14:00] DaemonFC Manufacturers are putting iridium plugs on as OE, because they want it to last 100,000 trouble-free miles or so and then start acting up after you sell it. [14:01] WanderleiN they shoot down a mig Fulcrum [14:02] DaemonFC If the car came with Platinum plugs, I'd leave it alone until the odometer reaches about 125,000 miles. [14:02] DaemonFC Unless you have a reason, like one fouls up, then you replace all of them. [14:02] DaemonFC Unless it has a turbocharger. [14:03] DaemonFC Then you want to do it every 50,000 miles or so or else it's going to start losing performance and pinging. [14:04] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163536 [14:04] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [14:05] DaemonFC Turbos are so much more trouble than they're worth. [14:05] DaemonFC MinceR, I doubt anyone reports on what the failure rate of a Hyndai THETA II Turbo is. [14:05] DaemonFC Guessing it's not pretty. [14:06] DaemonFC *Hyundai [14:06] DaemonFC "We took one of the worst engines ever designed and put a German turbocharger in it. Let's see what happens!" [14:11] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:14] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@2qj25x6d3cy5n.irc) has joined #techrights [14:14] DaemonFC Stupid wifi. [14:15] immibis DaemonFC: Do you always want to give the electric chair to people you don't like? [14:15] DaemonFC WanderleiN, As long as you keep an eye on the 3800 V6, you shouldn't ever have any serious trouble with it until it's well past its prime. [14:15] immibis you know, a black person asked me today if I had weed (apparently I just look like that). should he have been given the electric chair? [14:15] DaemonFC You need to watch for leaking intake gaskets, oil drippage through the pan gasket, that sort of thing. [14:15] immibis schestowitz-TR: I think preventing people of a certain race from reproducing is also considered genocide [14:16] DaemonFC As long as you watch your fluid levels, and don't just ask someone at the shop to keep an eye on it, you should be okay. [14:16] immibis DaemonFC: You really don't trust the state, at all, and yet you think the state should determine who's allowed to reproduce? [14:16] DaemonFC When the intake gaskets start leaking coolant, it's usually a drip leak. As long as you keep a spare bottle of 50/50 in the trunk you can just top it off and drive back home and get into the shop that week. [14:17] DaemonFC DaemonFC: You really don't trust the state, at all, and yet you think the state should determine who's allowed to reproduce? [14:17] DaemonFC If the state set higher standards, eventually better people would be running the state too. [14:17] DaemonFC Because they'd have to impress people that don't depend on it, which would be a fundamental shift from vote buying. [14:17] immibis hate crime is when you kill a gay man BECAUSE he's a gay man, not just when you kill a man who happens to be gay [14:18] DaemonFC Wrong [14:18] DaemonFC You'll get some lazy cops and lazy prosecutors who want a high conviction rate. [14:18] DaemonFC They'll find out he happened to be gay and add it to the charges. [14:18] DaemonFC And then they'll scare you into signing a potentially false confession. [14:18] immibis what the absolute fuck is that thing you said about wimpy liberal engines containing aluminium [14:19] immibis and "men" [14:19] immibis the masculinity thing is far-right [14:19] DaemonFC They're just really weak engines that can't stand up to basic wear and tear, and they're designed by wimpy California liberals who want the stupid thing to get 1 mpg more gas mileage. [14:19] DaemonFC And take away 2/3rds of the service life of the engine to get it. [14:20] immibis aluminium is also cheaper than steel, isn't it? [14:20] immibis oh no, it's not [14:20] DaemonFC We switched from aluminum to cast iron in a factory I worked at. [14:20] immibis DaemonFC: You want to begin fixing this problem by having the state prevent undesirables from reproducing [14:20] DaemonFC Because we were having too many parts come back under warranty for the aluminum warping under heat. [14:21] DaemonFC And so we put the cast iron parts in and our return rate fell to less than 1/10th of what it was with the aluminum. [14:21] kingoffrance enlightenment was the people are the state. so noone is doing that anymore [14:21] immibis maybe don't make parts out of aluminium that need to withstand heat without warping. making the parts out of aluminium that don't need to do that, however, is based. [14:21] immibis material selection is a thing [14:21] DaemonFC Well, the first thing to go to shit was the engine's block heads. [14:21] immibis some parts need to resist heat, other parts don't but are useful if lighter-weight [14:22] DaemonFC They did aluminum heads and a cast iron block. [14:22] DaemonFC And then head gasket failure almost always meant warped block heads too. [14:22] immibis that's basically just what apple did with iphones [14:22] DaemonFC Which meant rebuilding the top of the engine when the gasket failed and the overheat happened. [14:22] DaemonFC Then they replaced the entire block with aluminum. [14:22] DaemonFC Now if it overheats, what you usually do is buy a used engine and hope it doesn't happen again to that one. [14:23] WanderleiN if it over heats move to alaska [14:23] immibis build your own instead of complaining. it's a free market. convert your car to electric [14:23] immibis lead-acid electric lul [14:23] immibis then you can have all the weight you want [14:24] DaemonFC I used to run the 1996 Crown Victoria on 0w20 motor oil. [14:24] DaemonFC But Ford's engineers went back and said you could do it on anything as old as the 1992 model year for that engine. [14:24] DaemonFC But it would destroy the old 5 liter V8 on the 1991 and older. [14:24] DaemonFC 0w20 is not appropriate for the Buick 3800 V6. [14:24] DaemonFC I run it on 0w30 and it works fine. [14:25] immibis you should try running it on gasoline [14:25] immibis i hear it works better [14:25] DaemonFC I switch between Mobil 1 and Pennzoil Platinum 0w30 depending on which is on sale. [14:25] DaemonFC Well, I mean, as far as oil goes. There's an entire site dedicated to which oil for what engine. [14:26] DaemonFC GM never said it was okay to use 0w30 in this engine, but it's fine. [14:26] TR News "In its default configuration, KDEs Gitlab CI will only consider compilation or license validation failures a failure of the CI job, which follows what the previous Jenkins-based system did. Unit test failures would be shown in the results of a job, but would not be considered fatal and stop integration." https://www.volkerkrause.eu/2022/04/09/kde-ci-required-unit-tests.html [14:26] TR Bot Requiring passing unit tests on KDE's CI [14:26] DaemonFC I've not only never had a problem with it, I sent some to the lab to compare with how 5w30 looked after being used. [14:26] DaemonFC There's actually less engine wear using the 0w30, even when you don't change it as often. [14:27] immibis DaemonFC: have you considered driving a human-sized quadcopter instead of a car? [14:27] DaemonFC Old people think you need to change your oil all the time. [14:27] DaemonFC If you use a proper synthetic oil and a good filter, and you don't drive the car more than 7,500 miles per year, you should only need one oil change a year or so. [14:27] immibis isn't once a year basically all the time? [14:28] DaemonFC People are wasting billions and billions of dollars on excessive oil changes. [14:28] immibis how often do most people change it? [14:28] immibis if not once a year or so? [14:28] DaemonFC Not to mention what happens to all of that used motor oil. It goes to a recycling facility, but....that's not totally efficient and consumes energy to recycle it. [14:29] DaemonFC Well, many people still go to shops that say every 3 months or 3,000 miles. [14:29] TR News "Notepadqq is an amazing text editor. It is promoted as an editor designed by developers, for developers. Notepadqq is free to use and open-source text editor that has support for almost 100 languages." https://itsubuntu.com/how-to-install-notepadqq-on-linux/ [14:29] TR Bot To Install NotepadQQ On Linux [Updated] | Itsubuntu.com [14:29] DaemonFC And that's actually outdated, from when cars ran on conventional oil, and even then most manuals said that was the severe schedule for towing things or using them as police or taxi cars. [14:29] WanderleiN they runned the a360 using biodiesel [14:29] TR News You didn't expect "drone" and "open" on the FSF's site. Updated today: https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/OpenDroneMap [14:29] TR Bot OpenDroneMap - Free Software Directory [14:30] immibis NZ has this system where everyone brings their car in twice a year for whatever happens to need to be done at that time. but that's communism [14:30] DaemonFC So like, if you pay a shop to do an oil change, a full synthetic change should not cost more than $45-50. Most have coupons. [14:30] DaemonFC Just do it annually. [14:30] WanderleiN https://newatlas.com/aircraft/airbus-a380-biofuel-first-flight/ [14:30] Alternative link CloudFlare: newatlas.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://newatlas.com/aircraft/airbus-a380-biofuel-first-flight/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://newatlas.com/aircraft/airbus-a380-biofuel-first-flight/ [14:30] TR Bot Airbus flies A380 passenger jet on 100% biofuel for the first time [14:31] DaemonFC If you do conventional and change it every 3 months, you're going to spend about $140 a year on oil changes. [14:31] DaemonFC So you're basically handing another $100 to the shop and your car is no better off for it. [14:31] DaemonFC If you do it for 20 years, you've wasted over $2,000. [14:31] DaemonFC People don't see how small things add up and then they ARE poor. [14:32] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR totally doesn't get that. [14:32] DaemonFC Like, why does mom make half again as much money as me and my spouse and why is she always broke? [14:32] DaemonFC When she lives in a cheaper part of the country, to boot! [14:33] TR News Wine 7.6 out now with more PE conversion work, Mono updated http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163522#comment-33315 [14:33] TR Bot WineHQ - Wine Announcement - The Wine development release 7.6 is now available. | Tux Machines [14:33] MinceR 09 150644 < DaemonFC> "We took one of the worst engines ever designed and put a German turbocharger in it. Let's see what happens!" [14:33] MinceR lol [14:33] MinceR 09 124822 < schestowitz-TR> MinceR: telex has been very busy lately [14:34] MinceR yeah, they've been covering a war and a pretend "election" [14:34] MinceR 09 124844 < schestowitz-TR> inde.hu? [14:34] MinceR yes, index.hu [14:34] DaemonFC MinceR, I was looking at what it would cost to supercharge the engine in the Buick if I buy it. [14:34] DaemonFC Too much, but it would be a fun car. [14:35] DaemonFC $1,700 for parts and about $600-700 in labor. [14:35] DaemonFC It would go from 200 horsepower to 260 horsepower. [14:35] *Despatche_ (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [14:35] *Despatche has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:36] TR News "We are back with our usual monthly update! Boiling Steam looks at the latest data dumps from ProtonDB to give you a quick list of new games that work (pretty much?) perfectly with Proton since March 2022 all of them work out of the box or well enough with tweaks..." https://boilingsteam.com/7-new-games-with-proton-april-2022/ [14:36] TR Bot Top 7 New Games to Play on Linux with Proton April 2022 Edition - Boiling Steam [14:36] DaemonFC The system runs off exhaust gas pressure and uses it to force more clean air in through the intake. [14:36] DaemonFC But it needs a lot of new parts and software to manage that. [14:37] WanderleiN why does apt stalls after a repo fails to connect and doesn't continue to next repo? [14:37] DaemonFC I've never had that happen. [14:37] DaemonFC Although I have noticed that both APT and DNF are less of a piece of shit lately. [14:38] TR News Godfall Ultimate Edition seems to run well on GNU/Linux and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/godfall-ultimate-edition-seems-to-run-well-on-linux-and-steam-deck/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [14:38] Alternative link CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/godfall-ultimate-edition-seems-to-run-well-on-linux-and-steam-deck/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/godfall-ultimate-edition-seems-to-run-well-on-linux-and-steam-deck/ [14:38] TR Bot Ultimate Edition seems to run well on Linux and Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux [14:38] DaemonFC DNF got libsolv and automatically removes orphaned packages. [14:38] WanderleiN xanmod seems to be down [14:38] DaemonFC There used to be an experimental YUM plug-in to handle this. [14:38] WanderleiN and apt doesnt move on to update the debian packages [14:39] DaemonFC Probably Fedora 36 performs better than Debian 11 for a lot of reasons. [14:39] DaemonFC Fedora is ahead on some things like LTO by default. [14:39] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:40] DaemonFC So, I watched the movie "Dog" yesterday. [14:41] WanderleiN https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/deb.xanmod.org.html [14:41] Alternative link CloudFlare: isitdownrightnow.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/deb.xanmod.org.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/deb.xanmod.org.html [14:41] TR Bot Deb.xanmod.org - Is Deb Down Right Now? [14:41] TR News Raspberry Pi OS update beefs up security http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163489#comment-33316 [14:41] TR Bot Raspberry Pi OS removes default "Pi" username, adds experimental support for Wayland | Tux Machines [14:41] DaemonFC I laughed when his truck got broken into by the homeless guy and they sniffed him out using their dogs and found all his stuff in a tent under a boardwalk in San Francisco and he goes "Oh great. Some crack addict is probably snorting my migraine pills.". [14:41] WanderleiN so why is ti down for me? [14:42] DaemonFC Because someone stole my migraine pills off my doorstep at the motel before I could answer the door. [14:44] TR News "You signed up for two jobs if you decided to write a book. Writing and marketing. And marketing is likely even more vital if you want people to find and read your work." https://nts.strzibny.name/one-year-of-sales/ [14:44] TR Bot One year of sales [14:45] WanderleiN xanmod must have put me on a block list [14:45] DaemonFC My first ex lived in a trailer park (yeah). His family was just kind of poor, but nothing worse than that. But they had a neighbor who was some total degenerate. He was a hemophiliac and he stole my ex's mom's medication out of the mail and snorted it and it gave him a nosebleed and he had the ambulance out there. It was just constant. [14:46] DaemonFC Klonopin. That's what he snorted after stealing it from her. [14:47] WanderleiN so thats why you became a cop? [14:47] DaemonFC I'm not a cop. [14:48] WanderleiN but you wiched [14:48] DaemonFC Of course, that is exactly what a cop would say. [14:48] DaemonFC Also, if they don't have a warrant, they're like vampires. [14:48] DaemonFC They can't come in unless you let them in. [14:48] DaemonFC (Or open the door and let them "see something". Or they hear someone screaming.) [14:48] WanderleiN so they invented facebook [14:49] TR News "Positive rating from 20,944 (at time of writing) user reviews. Always nice to see such a title running well on GNU/Linux" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/duck-game-gets-a-patch-for-proton-now-works-on-steam-deck/ [14:49] Alternative link CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/duck-game-gets-a-patch-for-proton-now-works-on-steam-deck/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/duck-game-gets-a-patch-for-proton-now-works-on-steam-deck/ [14:49] TR Bot Game gets a patch for Proton, now works on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux [14:49] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [14:50] WanderleiN instagram tik rok [14:50] WanderleiN that way people just show them [14:50] TR News [PATCHv2] drm/amdgpu: disable ASPM on Intel AlderLake based systems - Richard Gong https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20220408190502.4103670-1-richard.gong@amd.com/ Source: amd [14:50] TR Bot [PATCHv2] drm/amdgpu: disable ASPM on Intel AlderLake based systems - Richard Gong [14:51] DaemonFC that way people just show them [14:51] TR News SystemRescue 9.02 is out http://www.system-rescue.org/ https://www.system-rescue.org/Changes-x86/ [14:51] Alternative link CloudFlare: system-rescue.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://www.system-rescue.org/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/http://www.system-rescue.org/ [14:51] TR Bot SystemRescue - System Rescue Homepage [14:51] TR Bot SystemRescue - ChangeLog [14:52] DaemonFC Yeah, there was a Florida firefighter in the news for exorting a 14 year old for nude videos. [14:52] WanderleiN i bet she looked 22 [14:52] DaemonFC Then when the cops questioned him, he admitted the entire thing, then later tried to say he was never even on Instagram or Snapchat. [14:52] DaemonFC Or whatever it is. [14:52] DaemonFC The one where some idiots leave that feature on that tells you where they are all the time. [14:54] WanderleiN but can the feature really be turned off? [14:54] TR News
  • [14:56] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/2203275 [14:56] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.imgur.com/MwkBRkK.jpg created on 2022-03-27 03:34:01.443365 [14:58] DaemonFC but can the feature really be turned off? [14:58] DaemonFC The one that shows it to the public, yeah. [14:58] TR News Dont use Reddit for Linux or BSD related questions Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163537 [14:58] TR Bot Don't use Reddit for Linux or BSD related questions | Tux Machines [14:58] TR News Games: Proton, Godfall Ultimate Edition, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163538 [14:58] TR Bot Games: Proton, Godfall Ultimate Edition, and More | Tux Machines [14:58] WanderleiN "Imgur is temporarily over capacity. Please try again later." ● Apr 09 [15:00] WanderleiN MinceR broke imgur [15:02] MinceR i didn't even use imgur today [15:02] MinceR also, it's unreliable anyway [15:02] MinceR and the ircz.de page serves the image without relying on imgur [15:04] WanderleiN ircz.de is a russian supporters site [15:05] DaemonFC "To most people, social acceptance is one of the most important driving forces of their lives. As such, social media discussion sites are mainly dominated by people who follow hype and trends. They cannot and do not think independently, and they are afraid of going against the current. If you use your brain and don't follow the hive mind, you will definitely not be liked. [15:05] DaemonFC People who have nothing better to do than to spend most of their time on these places generally feel bad about themselves. They spend their time at these places in order to feel better, which they do by bullying, downvoting, upvoting, commenting, etc. It's actually one of the very few ways a hollow person can feel good about himself/herself. [15:05] DaemonFC Voting systems on social media don't work. While downvotes should ideally be used to silence the completely irrelevant and useless comments, it is instead used to remove dissenting views and views that goes against the popular opinion. This leads to a form of radicalization where people are only ever exposed to the popular opinions because people with conflicting views eventually stop wasting their time on these platforms." [15:05] DaemonFC "Basically, what you're witnessing is what you would see if you study a group of chimpanzees in a zoo." [15:05] DaemonFC Or as I like to call it, the Code of Conduct. [15:05] DaemonFC mjg59_ is very active on Twitter and Reddit. Hrrrm. [15:06] DaemonFC "If you use your brain and don't follow the hive mind, you will definitely not be liked." [15:06] DaemonFC That's always been true, even before Social Control Media. [15:06] WanderleiN DaemonFC how can you copy paste so much text with out geting kicked for spamming? [15:06] TR News Showing off 'gifts' from Microsoft while insisting on putting a Free project in proprietary hosting of a company which commits crimes, including mass bribery https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/04/09/more-steel/ [15:06] Alternative link CloudFlare: haxx.se | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/04/09/more-steel/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/04/09/more-steel/ [15:06] TR Bot steel | daniel.haxx.se [15:07] DaemonFC Chimpanzees at the zoo throwing poop at each other for mating rights with the female is essentially what most humans boil down to. [15:07] DaemonFC I like this guy. This is like something I'd write. [15:08] kingoffrance he's imaging there is some "law" besides popularity. religious nutcase [15:08] kingoffrance *imagining [15:08] DaemonFC Then schestowitz-TR is mad when I agree with MinceR that most humans are worse than net neutral and we'd be better off without covering the Earth in 7 layers of them. [15:08] DaemonFC Which is what MinceR has said repeatedly. [15:09] DaemonFC The politicians don't mind having an army of dumbed down voters who all depend on 47 different types of welfare and 90% of that was entirely their own fault. [15:10] DaemonFC The more hoops they can make you jump through to beg for your own tax money back, the better! [15:11] DaemonFC But people who go further and have kids and actually cost taxpayers something more than what they themselves paid in are by far the most corrosive part of the equation. [15:12] schestowitz-TR [15:07] Chimpanzees at the zoo throwing poop at each other for mating rights with the female is essentially what most humans boil down to. [15:12] schestowitz-TR I know that guy !! [15:13] DaemonFC And then the female is loving every minute of it because she's already got backup plans for when she gets tired of the winner of the poop throwing contest. [15:13] DaemonFC See, just like humans. [15:14] DaemonFC You add some F-350 Super Duty trucks and some dirty book stores on top of the poop throwing, you have humans. [15:16] DaemonFC Maybe a machine gun and a missile launcher here and there. [15:16] DaemonFC CNN putting half a screen of people killing each other in Ukraine and another half a screen for Applebee's commercials with people dancing around because of chain restaurant steaks and Miller Lite. [15:17] schestowitz-TR SickNN [15:17] DaemonFC But it all boils down to the poop throwing and mating rights in the end. [15:17] DaemonFC Now you know how I see people and society in general. [15:18] immibis DaemonFC: you are gay and yet you dislike minorities? [15:18] DaemonFC All minorities like each other. Like Jews and Muslims. [15:18] DaemonFC The Muslims are a minority, and they're famous for liking gays. [15:19] immibis do you think muslims should dislike gays? [15:19] DaemonFC Which means that, logically, I have to reciprocate for the milk of human kindness flowing from the Muslim world towards gay people. [15:19] DaemonFC do you think muslims should dislike gays? [15:19] immibis if you don't think muslims should dislike gays then why do you think gays shold dislike muslims, what's the asymmetry there? [15:19] DaemonFC I don't think that anyone is born knowing how to hate. The religion spreads through child abuse. [15:19] immibis and if you do think muslims should dislike gays then why is that? [15:19] DaemonFC That one especially. [15:20] DaemonFC At least mainstream Christianity doesn't specifically condone fucking 12 year olds after you cut off part of their genitals and calling them your "wives". [15:20] DaemonFC Muslims are known for that too. They're sick in the head. Worse than the worst Catholic priests. [15:21] DaemonFC And we can't say that because while we have all of these "Death to America" mosques with the child fucking, it's not WOKE to say what they are doing in there. [15:21] DaemonFC But everyone knows it. And in their own country they just murder gay people and laugh about it and it's the state doing it too or turning a blind eye to it. [15:22] DaemonFC Bill Maher got a lot of hate from the WOKE crowd. [15:23] DaemonFC People like those California nutcases genuinely don't want to "get" it, how "tolerating" Muslims isn't compatible with a free country where people can be gay. [15:23] DaemonFC There is no Muslim country where people have basic human rights, and most of them don't have even the trappings of a basic democracy or elections. [15:24] DaemonFC and if you do think muslims should dislike gays then why is that? [15:24] DaemonFC I think they should stop being Muslims and go get their head examined. [15:24] DaemonFC I'd say that about people in any religion though. [15:25] DaemonFC When people are religious then they get an entitlement mentality that goes along with it. [15:25] DaemonFC How fucking arrogant are you anyway, that you think you're better than someone and that only your religion is right just becuase your two dumbass parents bumped uglies and that's all you ever got to hear about it and so that's what you are now. [15:25] DaemonFC It's not even "Your religion." most likely, unless you're one of the few converts. [15:26] DaemonFC It was IMPOSED on you before you were able to think. [15:26] DaemonFC And Dawkins says it, not quite like that, in The God Delusion. [15:27] DaemonFC That it's sad that people accept it when other people say "That Muslim child." or "That Christian child.". [15:28] DaemonFC You're a brand new mind. You don't have a bullshit filter yet. It hasn't even occurred to you that your parents messed up a lot of things, don't plan to have you, and are going to die someday. [15:28] DaemonFC So most of the time, right, the kids believe anything their parents say. Even if it's crazy! [15:29] DaemonFC When I was 4 years old, I went over to my grandmother's house (my dad's mom) and then I came out and asked mom why there was a monster guarding the outlets and why grandma said don't flush the toilet because it's broken and why she said there was a mean dog out in the back yard so don't go there. [15:29] DaemonFC And she was making all of that up. [15:30] DaemonFC She didn't want to explain that you could get hurt very badly by electricity or that she just didn't want to pay the water bill or keep an eye on you if you went to play in the back yard. [15:31] DaemonFC So, you know, then it started to dawn on me, once mom let it slip, that if your grandparents make things up because they just don't want to deal with you, maybe your parents do too. [15:32] DaemonFC And I always felt particularly "wrong" in church. [15:32] DaemonFC Like the bible, after that, was an entire book of "There's a monster guarding the electrical outlets, the toilet is broken, and there's a vicious dog in the yard.". [15:33] DaemonFC By the time I was about 7 I was chronically depressed. I realized that whether it was that day, 10 years, or 90 years away, there'd be an end to me and that there'd be nothing more, and so what's the point? [15:34] DaemonFC And I think it was 6 or 7, anyway. They started taking me to a child psychiatrist at that point. [15:34] DaemonFC They diagnosed the inability to focus and the lack of interest in anything as "Attention Deficit Disorder". [15:36] DaemonFC And there was just constant turmoil in the house. Parents fighting all the time, dad calling mom "fucking bitch" the horrible stench of dad's cigarettes. We'd get pets and then they'd do something mom didn't like and so they "went to live on a farm". She didn't want to walk one of them and let it out without a leash and it got hit and killed by a car. [15:36] DaemonFC So that really helped the depression. [15:36] DaemonFC Getting to bury my dead dog in the back yard when I was 8 because mom didn't want to walk it while I was away. [15:37] DaemonFC So, very young age, thanks to some godawful parenting, "There is no God.". [15:38] DaemonFC You know, adults are supposed to protect children from dealing with trauma, and my parents didn't give a shit. [15:38] DaemonFC "Here's a shovel. Go bury your dog." [15:38] DaemonFC "We'll get divorced in 6 years and blame you for that too!" [15:39] DaemonFC So, what schestowitz-TR doesn't get I guess, and I think he doesn't have kids either.... [15:39] MinceR 09 160443 < WanderleiN> ircz.de is a russian supporters site [15:39] MinceR [citation needed] [15:39] DaemonFC Is that I'd fucking kill myself before I did as horrible a job as my parents did. Plus, I barely have enough money to keep this house going. [15:40] DaemonFC I have pets for a good long time, you know. [15:40] DaemonFC And mom asks me how I do it. [15:41] DaemonFC And she gets mad when I tell her. [15:41] DaemonFC I say, "Well, I feed them good food, and if they develop a behavior, instead of dumping them out in a field somewhere I understand the psychological reason for the behavior and redirect them. [15:42] DaemonFC That's where spanking a child comes in, btw. [15:42] DaemonFC You know, people do it too much because it's easier than understanding where the behavior comes from. [15:43] MinceR probably also enjoyable to many people [15:43] DaemonFC I wasn't a child who learned anything from being hit except to say in my head "Jesus Christ that woman is a bitch, can you believe that shit? How many more years do I have to live here?". [15:44] DaemonFC When you grow up, if you hit someone there's criminal charges. [15:45] DaemonFC If you hit your spouse there's domestic abuse felonies. [15:45] DaemonFC But it's okay to just beat the fuck out of your kids because they annoyed you. [15:46] DaemonFC Beat em senseless. As long as there's no bruises, cuts, or broken bones when they go to school, the state says it's fine. [15:46] DaemonFC Remember! Belt to the ass or slap in the face! [15:46] DaemonFC Spitting on them works too! [15:46] *alextee (~alextee@62dnd9y3bk93n.irc) has joined #techrights [15:47] DaemonFC If they threaten to report you, say "That's fine because if the state investigates it you'll never be welcome back in this house again.". [15:47] DaemonFC Then they're afraid because who knows where they'll sleep. [15:47] DaemonFC This isn't abuse at all! [15:49] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [15:51] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@5c84rj45gkqvi.irc) has joined #techrights [15:52] TR News Blender Eevee is Magic - Even a Stopped Clock Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163539 [15:52] TR Bot Blender Eevee is Magic - Even a Stopped Clock | Tux Machines [15:52] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163540 [15:52] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [15:54] *techrights_guest|9 (~524197f3@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [15:54] *techrights_guest|9 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [15:57] *alextee has quit (Quit: Leaving) [15:58] libertybox psydruid: soundb [15:58] psydruid soundd? [15:58] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHTKetNX9j8 [15:58] TR Bot https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=fHTKetNX9j8 [15:58] TR Bot invidio.xamh.de | What feeding a Maine Coon Cat is like! - Invidious [15:59] psydruid systemd-soundd? [15:59] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Apr 09 [16:00] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:00] *WanderleiN has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [16:04] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) [16:05] DaemonFC I have a Maine Coon. [16:05] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [16:05] DaemonFC Also my black and white cat mated with a Maine Coon and produced five "Maine Cows". [16:06] DaemonFC MinceR, Well, four Maine Cows anyway. The fifth one looks like a Maine Coon. [16:07] MinceR :) [16:07] DaemonFC The rest of them have a blend of Maine Coon and their mom's personality. [16:07] DaemonFC The long fur and fluffyness of a Maine Coon, only they're black and white. [16:07] MinceR what's their mom's personality like? [16:08] DaemonFC Very mature personality. She has her own "cat language" and she sits there and talks to you in it. [16:08] MinceR :) [16:09] DaemonFC She does not like to be picked up, and she usually won't sleep on the bed. Last night she slept on the foot of the bed though, which I thought was weird. [16:09] DaemonFC My Maine Coon is more interested in the windows, and what's going on outside. [16:09] DaemonFC And she sleeps on the bed all the time. [16:10] DaemonFC Mandy doesn't like it but I tell him to just knock it off and let the cat sleep wherever she wants to. [16:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 85.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 296.08 [16:11] DaemonFC My black and white cat had "cat acne" and I recently got it to clear up finally. [16:12] DaemonFC With some antibiotics and switching her to steel food and water bowls. [16:12] DaemonFC The Maine Coon gets fur tangles. [16:12] DaemonFC I just cut them off when it happens, with the scissors. [16:13] DaemonFC She always has so much fur growing in that it doesn't make much difference, but if you let it go, it'll get bigger and bigger. [16:13] DaemonFC The time we spent at the motel, she got tangles really bad, and she wouldn't tolerate being groomed. [16:14] DaemonFC Eventually she had one on her butt so big that I had to cut the hair off almost to skin to get rid of it, but it all grew back in. [16:14] DaemonFC She just looked weird for a while. [16:15] DaemonFC Now that she's not hiding from everyone under the bed all the time, if I feel a tangle, I just cut it off right away. [16:16] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Never thought I'd be glad to say this, but Comcast is coming today. [16:16] DaemonFC Then I can call and cancel the T-Mobile. [16:16] DaemonFC Lots of people complain that the home internet pod doesn't work very well even in areas where their phone works fine. [16:16] DaemonFC That's what happened to me. [16:19] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@jv7rxtrwhark6.irc) has joined #techrights [16:20] DaemonFC My black and white cat is just happy to be here. Sometimes she just walks up and goes "Mwaaaah.... mwaaaah..... mwaaah" and that means "I would like you to pet me, and then I'll just sit here and guard you for a while.". [16:21] DaemonFC Then she has a "Mroooowow! Mrowwwwow!" when people are up and walking around that means "I'm just letting you know I'm down here so you won't trip over me. Have a nice day!". [16:21] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:21] MinceR :3 [16:23] DaemonFC Then there's the occasional "MYYYYEAH!!!!", which means she's just in a good mood in general and up and about and saying hi on her way where she's going. Doesn't want you to pet her, just "Hi!". [16:24] DaemonFC Then she throws herself on her side and plays with her toy. She likes to pretend it's a mouse that she just caught and bite at it. [16:25] TR News Links 09/04/2022: Outages and Clown Computing Failures | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/09/links-09042022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/09/links-09042022/ [16:25] TR Bot Links 09/04/2022: Outages and Clown Computing Failures | Techrights [16:25] DaemonFC She's mildly amused by a laser pointer, sometimes, but not to the point she'll chase it around the house, usually. Mostly just swatting at it and then giving up. [16:25] DaemonFC She does not like catnip. [16:26] TR News Proprietary Software and Security Issues Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163541 [16:26] TR Bot Proprietary Software and Security Issues | Tux Machines [16:26] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163542 [16:26] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:27] TR News Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, Retro, and Sailfish OS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163543 [16:27] TR Bot Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, Retro, and Sailfish OS | Tux Machines [16:27] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163544 [16:27] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [16:29] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@mbdp3x2m46v36.irc) has joined #techrights [16:29] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@jv7rxtrwhark6.irc) has joined #techrights [16:36] DaemonFC It occurred to me just how stupid people are because every time I go somewhere, I hear someone say something so incredibly dumb it defies belief. [16:36] DaemonFC There's a 9/11 memorial in Indianapolis which is made of two steel beams from one of the towers. [16:36] DaemonFC A teenager walks by and says "Isn't one of them still standing?". [16:36] immibis DaemonFC: "How fucking arrogant are you anyway, that you think you're better than someone and that only your religion is right just becuase your two dumbass parents bumped uglies and that's all you ever got to hear about it and so that's what you are now. " - isn't this how you feel about white people? [16:37] DaemonFC I go to NASA's Johnson Space Center, where they have the Apollo Mission Control center and everything. [16:37] immibis DaemonFC: so it's all parenting. How would implement these parenting rules you want? [16:37] DaemonFC They have pieces of Saturn V rockets on display. [16:38] DaemonFC One of the parents walks by and goes "Now you can say you touched something that was on the moon!". [16:38] DaemonFC Yes, they flew the entire rocket to the moon. That's how those worked. [16:38] DaemonFC The entire rocket. Then they brought the whole thing back again! Didn't even scratch the paint, you know? [16:39] immibis oh no! people in the process of learning things don't know everything yet! [16:39] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [16:40] DaemonFC Oh come on, anyone who ever saw the movie Apollo 13 knows they didn't take the entire rocket to the moon. Herp derp. [16:40] DaemonFC It shows the entire launch sequence. [16:42] XRevan86 WanderleiN: "ircz.de is a russian supporters site" <- How does one check? [16:43] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKtVpvzUF1Y [16:43] TR Bot https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=DKtVpvzUF1Y [16:43] TR Bot timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=DKtVpvzUF1Y ) [16:44] MinceR XRevan86: i think he failed to realize what ircz.de does [16:45] MinceR (i.e. that it picks up links to images from various IRC channels and rehosts them) [16:46] TR News Duck Game gets a patch for Proton, now works on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/duck-game-gets-a-patch-for-proton-now-works-on-steam-deck/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [16:46] Alternative link CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/duck-game-gets-a-patch-for-proton-now-works-on-steam-deck/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/duck-game-gets-a-patch-for-proton-now-works-on-steam-deck/ [16:46] TR Bot Game gets a patch for Proton, now works on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux [16:47] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1lnwmQS52I [16:47] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=u1lnwmQS52I [16:48] TR Bot yewtu.be | The Launch | Apollo 13 | Screen Bites - Invidious [16:48] DaemonFC Again, they just built better stuff back then. [16:48] DaemonFC Even when they were only going to use something once, they thought big. [16:48] DaemonFC Nobody does that anymore. [16:49] DaemonFC NASA was pretty much finished by the time the Space Shuttle happened. [16:49] DaemonFC It was just a horrible system and it bled them dry and they were stuck using it for decades and couldn't afford to do anything else because of it, and it killed a lot of people. [16:50] DaemonFC There wasn't even much technology to salvage from it to be re-applied anywhere else. [16:50] DaemonFC A total money pit. [16:51] DaemonFC I hate machines that aren't simple. Absolutely hate them. [16:52] DaemonFC I keep going back to cars. People get absolutely no benefit at all from all of this modern technology. [16:52] DaemonFC It looks "futuristic", and then they buy it and they find out how awful it is. [16:52] DaemonFC It's expensive to service. There's serious malfunctions after a few years. [16:53] DaemonFC And they know that you know it, and they'll win either way. [16:53] DaemonFC Either the company sells you a service plan and makes money guaranteed, or you're back in there paying them retail price to fix it all the time, or you just give up and sell it and take a loss. [16:54] DaemonFC And with older bigger cars, without any really fancy computers and sensors, if it starts acting up, you just pop the hood and see what the problem is, unbolt the part, throw it into the garbage (or take it back for the core) and bolt a new part on. The car starts right back up. [16:55] DaemonFC So with the newer stuff, even if the technology or the manufacturing process gets you good gas mileage, incredibly good gas mileage, it's not worth it. [16:55] DaemonFC You are talking pennies on the dollar in savings vs. what it will cost to repair. [16:56] DaemonFC Even if gas goes up to $5 a gallon, you're better off with an older bigger car that's not that sophisticated. [16:56] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163545 [16:56] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 45.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 41.43 average k/sec., average swarm size 282.65 ● Apr 09 [17:19] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/illinois-legislature-set-to-approve-tax-relief-on-final-day/ [17:19] TR Bot Illinois Legislature set to approve tax relief on final day | WGN-TV [17:19] DaemonFC $50 checks to people making $400,000 a year. [17:19] DaemonFC I mean, that's as "working class" as it gets, right? [17:21] schestowitz-TR it's wose [17:21] schestowitz-TR *Worse [17:21] schestowitz-TR because rich people barely pay tax [17:21] schestowitz-TR those checks are funded by you [17:21] schestowitz-TR it's circular [17:21] schestowitz-TR those who pay more in tax are shouldering the rest [17:21] DaemonFC Only the government could take $1,600 from a minimum wage Walmart employee that year, give him $50, and then brag that it gave him $50. [17:22] DaemonFC (That's just the state income tax, btw.) [17:23] schestowitz-TR [16:45] (i.e. that it picks up links to images from various IRC channels and rehosts them) [17:23] schestowitz-TR they should drop the "Z"!! [17:23] DaemonFC By the time the state gets done taxing you, they tax 5% of your income before you see it, up to 10% when you spend the money, another 39 cents per gallon of gas along with the sales tax, licenses to drive your car, license plates for the car, stickers from the city to drive your car. [17:23] schestowitz-TR z is ze neu zwaztika [17:23] DaemonFC Then there's the federal government too. [17:23] DaemonFC They make you pay into a Socialized Insecurity system you may never live to see. [17:24] DaemonFC That's on top of THEIR income tax. [17:25] MinceR schestowitz-TR: lol [17:25] DaemonFC And then they hide tariffs because the retailer pays those and then pretends it's "inflation". [17:25] kingoffrance DaemonFC, and some ppl want more "enlightenment" quite funny isnt it? [17:25] MinceR ircz is older than the terrorussian practice of using the z as a zwastika [17:25] DaemonFC Nobody knows where it came from. [17:25] DaemonFC Then after the government steals 40% of your money, they also inflate the money, so anything you managed to save is worth 10% less every year. [17:26] schestowitz-TR MinceR: zatz not gut [17:26] DaemonFC Meanwhile, they spend the money blowing horrible bubbles that drive up the cost of everything from bread, to cars, to your rent. [17:26] DaemonFC So in the end you probably don't have much in savings and then they inflate away whatever you do have for an emergency. [17:26] immibis hot take: theft is taxation [17:27] DaemonFC Yes, taxation is theft. [17:27] DaemonFC Inflation is theft by deception. [17:27] immibis No. Theft is taxation. [17:27] kingoffrance immibis is right, people are the state [17:27] DaemonFC Theft and then giving it to someone else puts them in possession of stolen property. [17:27] kingoffrance thats enlightenment [17:27] kingoffrance immibis is 100% enlightened lol [17:27] immibis It's the price you pay for living in a society with a horribly designed system that puts so many people in positions where their best option is to steal. [17:27] DaemonFC So they should arrest the government and anyone it gives your money to. [17:27] DaemonFC Problem solved! [17:28] immibis If you want to live in a society where people below you are fucked, them stealing from you is the price of that. [17:28] schestowitz-TR inflation is a tax [17:28] schestowitz-TR and you might say tax is legalised theft [17:28] immibis we do need to redesign the government financial system so it's clear who is paying for what [17:28] DaemonFC It's legal when the state does it. Like murder. [17:28] DaemonFC Cops murder people every day, nothing happens. [17:29] DaemonFC I don't consider executions to be the same as murder. [17:29] DaemonFC People who were executed at least had a trial. [17:29] immibis (that surely won't happen until the people elect a government that represents them) [17:29] MinceR taxation is more like robbery [17:29] MinceR it's performed with threat of violence [17:29] DaemonFC For every person executed, the cops kill 1,000 more just by shooting them "because reasons". [17:29] DaemonFC None of them got a trial. [17:29] DaemonFC Be mad about that, not about executing Jeffrey Dahmer. [17:30] immibis when the government properly represents the people, taxation is no problem. It's just the prices for solving various tragedies of the commons [17:30] kingoffrance "(that surely won't happen until the people elect a government that represents them)" now you're denying the enlightenment happened [17:30] MinceR when has the government properly represented the people, ever? [17:30] kingoffrance when you said the enlightenment happeend [17:30] immibis every developed country seems to do a better job than the USA, although none is perfect [17:30] MinceR the enlightenment was not an election [17:30] kingoffrance what was it? [17:30] DaemonFC The focus on outlawing Capital Punishment is misguided. Nobody gets the death penalty in Illinois. The cops just shoot 6-7 people dead every day. [17:30] DaemonFC But nobody gets EXECUTED. [17:31] kingoffrance just another group of oppressors? [17:31] kingoffrance lol [17:31] MinceR an intellectual and philosophical movement [17:31] DaemonFC MinceR, "Chicago Police - Obey and Survive". [17:31] immibis I guess people figured out how to ethically justify lordship by putting the word "land" in front of it [17:32] MinceR also, if the tax money the government wants to collect is in the exact amount and ratio the people want it to collect, why use taxation at all? just have people pay for what they want [17:32] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/chicagocrime/woman-53-carjacked-at-red-light-in-loop/ [17:32] TR Bot 53-year-old woman carjacked at red light in Loop | WGN-TV [17:32] immibis MinceR: Tragedy of the commons. A proper role of a government is to deal with all-or-nothing problems [17:33] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR Voice: The carjacker just wanted their reparations! They're hardly even a real criminal! [17:33] immibis things like pollution require enforcement if the desired amount of pollution is not infinity [17:33] MinceR i suspect that it is actually impossible for a human government to do that [17:33] DaemonFC When you think about it, threatening to murder someone using an illegal handgun while stealing the only thing they own on this Earth isn't really a crime. [17:33] DaemonFC Is it? [17:33] immibis maybe every single person in the country wants less pollution, but it's also a capitalist economy and therefore the first person to unilaterally decrease their pollution output will just be hurting themselves for no benefit [17:33] DaemonFC It's just "redistributing the wealth". [17:34] DaemonFC How ironic that Obummer is putting his library in Jackson Park. [17:34] MinceR the last i've heard was that we have 3 years or so to greatly reduce our emissions to avert a catastrophe [17:34] immibis we have negative years [17:34] DaemonFC Half the people going to see it will "spread the wealth around" with the muggings and carjackings. [17:34] MinceR i'm predicting that as usual, humanity isn't going to do jack shit about it in 3 years [17:34] immibis whoever told you 3 years was optimistic [17:34] MinceR i know [17:34] immibis maybe the hatred for russian nazis will help avert the climate change catastrophe. i'd give it a 10% probability [17:35] MinceR more likely that war and related stuff will drive even more pollution [17:35] immibis but what will be burned? wood? [17:35] MinceR yes, and coal [17:35] MinceR and extra resources will be used to prepare for more war [17:35] MinceR and ukrainian cities and people will be burned [17:36] MinceR and we might also end up with a thermonuclear war [17:36] immibis that will drive humans extinct, solving climate change [17:36] MinceR oh, also, not just wood and coal but also plastic [17:36] immibis plastic is made from oil [17:37] DaemonFC Nobody is going to do anything. [17:37] DaemonFC California will cause a big economic mess for itself. [17:37] DaemonFC That's about it. [17:37] DaemonFC Fuck them.. [17:37] kingoffrance "an intellectual and philosophical movement" yes, which supposedly separated church and state. as all gov. are based on various philosophies [17:38] kingoffrance conway's law [17:38] MinceR people are going to do some stuff, some of which will be ineffectual and some of which will be counterproductive [17:38] kingoffrance and hence people claimed to be the state [17:38] DaemonFC Well, think about it. If California decides to commit to this, it'll just make less incentive to buy an EV anywhere else while all of them suffer. [17:39] DaemonFC The gaoline prices there are already several dollars a gallon more than the national average. [17:39] DaemonFC But banning the sale of new gasoline cars after 2035 is just a pipe dream. [17:39] DaemonFC It'll be unworkable. [17:39] DaemonFC People will figure out ways to sabotage it. [17:40] immibis DaemonFC: they are already effectively banned by the fact prices ar ehigh [17:40] DaemonFC Like buying them in other states and paying to have it registered somewhere else for a year before "importing it" into California and driving it there anyway. [17:40] DaemonFC Good, the more harm California self-inflicts, the more it holds down prices here. [17:40] immibis DaemonFC is not very enlightened [17:41] immibis the reason you hate california is it has black people and homeless people, right? [17:45] *ziraffep has quit (Quit) [17:45] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@6umye45qqp4u6.irc) has joined #techrights [17:46] *ziraffep has quit (Quit) [17:46] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@6umye45qqp4u6.irc) has joined #techrights [17:57] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [17:57] DaemonFC No, because it has so many stupid people. [17:58] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@6h225yswjsmje.irc) has joined #techrights [17:58] DaemonFC They think very highly of themselves because they don't realize how stupid they are. [17:58] DaemonFC A car designed by politicians isn't going to work out well for the people who end up having to drive it. [17:59] DaemonFC Even the Soviet car industry wasn't as bad as what the Democrats are doing because at least some people in Russia could afford to buy one. [17:59] DaemonFC bbiab [17:59] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Apr 09 [18:00] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22032635 [18:00] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/mggfzn1ciqo81.jpg created on 2022-03-26 17:39:15.763928 [18:01] XRevan86 MinceR: I think it's working. [18:01] TR News "Like announced in my previous post, I released mastersearch, "Searching the web from the CLI"." gemini://blog.schmidhuberj.de/2022/04/09/mastersearch-released/ [18:03] TR News The future of dimension.sh gemini://dimension.sh/~nikdoof/logs/2022/04/09/the-future-of-dimension/ [18:03] TR News tldr in gemtext gemini://freeshell.de/gemlog/2022-04-09_tldr_in_gemtext.gmi [18:18] *zleap has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [18:26] XRevan86 MinceR: It's yesterday's news but I still want to ask: why is Orban so stupid? [18:26] MinceR he was probably born that way [18:26] *techrights_guest|9 (~5c4d8912@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [18:26] XRevan86 What evidence does he need on the Bucha massacre? [18:27] *techrights_guest|9 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [18:27] MinceR he doesn't care about evidence, he's a christian fundamentalist [18:27] MinceR and he worships putler [18:27] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [18:27] XRevan86 One: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/08/massacre-in-bucha [18:27] XRevan86 Two: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/07/meduza-publishes-new-footage-evidencing-civilian-murders-in-bucha-during-russian-occupation [18:27] Alternative link CloudFlare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/08/massacre-in-bucha https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/08/massacre-in-bucha [18:27] Alternative link CloudFlare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/07/meduza-publishes-new-footage-evidencing-civilian-murders-in-bucha-during-russian-occupation https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/07/meduza-publishes-new-footage-evidencing-civilian-murders-in-bucha-during-russian-occupation [18:27] TR Bot NO TITLE [18:27] TR Bot NO TITLE [18:30] XRevan86 MinceR: Maybe he believes his own propaganda like Putin. [18:30] MinceR indeed he does [18:33] TR News 4 Best Free and Open Source Web Application Firewalls Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163546 [18:33] TR Bot 4 Best Free and Open Source Web Application Firewalls | Tux Machines [18:33] TR News 4 Best Free and Open Source Linux Flickr Tools Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163547 [18:33] TR Bot 4 Best Free and Open Source Linux Flickr Tools | Tux Machines [18:33] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163548 [18:33] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:33] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp19zbiuKTk [18:33] TR Bot https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=zp19zbiuKTk [18:33] TR Bot inv.bp.mutahar.rocks | You will subscribe instead of own and you will like it! - Invidious [18:34] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [18:34] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:41] TR News Is gemini a read-only protocol? gemini://midnight.pub/posts/883 [18:42] SomeH4x0r no afaik [18:42] SomeH4x0r just like PHP/CGI exists for HTTP GET [18:43] TR News "It makes plenty of sense to work multiple days a week, throughout the whole day, if you're a farmer who has to respect the life cycles of his work animals, and doesn't have giant spotlights with which to light up his whole field as he tills." gemini://beyondneolithic.life/posts/re_throughts_on_work.gmi [18:43] TR News Alfa Network long range-low power Wifi HaloW AHPI7292S RPI HAT Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163549 [18:43] TR Bot Alfa Network long range-low power Wifi HaloW AHPI7292S RPI HAT | Tux Machines [18:44] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@h7d662wwz5dp4.irc) has joined #techrights [18:46] TR News Microsoft incites people to break the law with ProprietarySoftware https://sg.channelasia.tech/article/696820/github-copilot-available-visual-studio-2022/?fp=2&fpid=1 see http://techrights.org/2021/11/29/balabhadra-alex-graveley-and-tomboy/ [18:46] TR Bot GitHub Copilot available for Visual Studio 2022 - Channel Asia [18:46] TR Bot Microsoft GitHub Expos Part VIII Mr. Graveleys Long Career Serving Microsofts Agenda (Before Hiring by Microsoft to Work on GitHubs GPL Violations Machine) | Techrights [18:48] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:53] *bnchs (~bnchs@dah4ehqka5i4q.irc) has joined #techrights [18:55] bnchs hello [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 56.98 k/sec., IPFS upstream 102.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 238.75 ● Apr 09 [19:09] immibis Even the Soviet car industry wasn't as bad as what the Democrats are doing because at least some people in Russia could afford to buy one. [19:09] immibis wtf [19:11] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: siren) [19:13] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@i8gtth78frzk8.irc) has joined #techrights [19:16] *tdemin (~tdemin@kgmzfpb6b65fs.irc) has joined #techrights [19:20] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@p332rzdnw64ka.irc) has joined #techrights [19:21] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:23] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:23] *bnchs (~bnchs@en9irc6bnmqs6.irc) has joined #techrights [19:25] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@vfgssqfdmdi2g.irc) has joined #techrights [19:26] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:28] *ziraffep has quit (connection closed) [19:30] MinceR https://thecodinglove.com/when-i-try-to-bypass-a-bug-during-my-demo/ [19:30] TR Bot When I try to bypass a bug during my demo | The Coding Love - Programmer humor: gifs, memes, jokes [19:32] *ziraffep (~ziraffep@yfj9xvtb6yewi.irc) has joined #techrights [19:51] bnchs__ MinceR: i have never related to that [19:51] bnchs__ because i never do workarounds like microsoft style [19:52] MinceR :> [19:52] MinceR working around a bug you'll fix in a later sprint for the sake of a demo isn't necessarily MICROS~1 style, though [19:53] MinceR it might be a natural consequence of scrum ● Apr 09 [20:06] *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:37] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@sh6usj5ipay2a.irc) has joined #techrights [20:58] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@9hp6e3a5h7j56.irc) has joined #techrights [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 36.70 k/sec., IPFS upstream 72.56 average k/sec., average swarm size 305.38 ● Apr 09 [21:00] DaemonFC I sat down and helped my mom's friend from work set up a retirement account and told her exactly, step-by-step, how to go about taking the IRS for all they're worth on that. [21:00] DaemonFC And which investments to avoid right now and which to go for. [21:00] DaemonFC Right now, I'm heavily leaning on bonds, not stocks. [21:02] DaemonFC schestowitz, I'm buying the Buick on Monday. That was a NICE car. [21:02] DaemonFC Nothing wrong with it other than it may need a battery and a coolant flush. [21:03] DaemonFC Body is in nearly perfect condition. [21:03] DaemonFC All of the accessories and switches work fine. [21:14] DaemonFC The TPMS light is on. The sensors are about $75 each, and so if I want to replace them all that's maybe like $300. [21:14] DaemonFC But TPMS isn't important. [21:15] DaemonFC It's one of those government things where it's like "Oh some dumbass may not notice his tire is flat or 25% underfilled! Put another sensor on it!". [21:15] DaemonFC Even the Soviet car industry wasn't as bad as what the Democrats are doing because at least some people in Russia could afford to buy one. [21:15] DaemonFC wtf [21:16] MinceR i don't mind having TPMS [21:16] DaemonFC Yes, Biden is doing a worse job than the Soviets. If a Soviet citizen couldn't get a car, at least it wasn't because some tree hugging douchebag in California wanted them all to cost $70,000 and up. [21:16] MinceR though i wouldn't mind CTIS either [21:17] DaemonFC MinceR, It's not worth $300 to put new sensors in, I'd say. [21:17] DaemonFC If the tire is flat, you'll know. [21:17] MinceR it's better not to wait until it goes flat [21:42] DaemonFC No, but that's usually the only time it would go off since I keep my tires inflated properly. [21:43] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://i.imgur.com/Z17VEP5.mp4 [21:43] Alternative link CloudFlare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/Z17VEP5.mp4 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://i.imgur.com/Z17VEP5.mp4 ● Apr 09 [22:01] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [22:13] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:24] DaemonFC https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/general-motors/2017/03/10/buick-reboot/99042816/ [22:24] TR Bot The Detroit News [22:24] DaemonFC "stodgy sedans"..... [22:24] DaemonFC This is insane. [22:24] DaemonFC That thing I'm buying looks like an executive would roll up in it. [22:27] bnchs__ the detroit news [22:27] bnchs__ with no news article title [22:27] bnchs__ like FUCK YOU [22:27] DaemonFC I got a family photo. [22:28] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:28] DaemonFC https://ibb.co/51dwQ6V [22:28] TR Bot PXL-20220409-183632837 ImgBB [22:28] DaemonFC The one I'm buying in front, and what I drive now behind it. [22:29] SomeH4x0r DaemonFC: please direct links [22:29] SomeH4x0r og:image [22:29] DaemonFC https://i.ibb.co/7SHL3XF/PXL-20220409-183632837.jpg [22:30] DaemonFC There we go. [22:31] immibis DaemonFC: Are people buying cars in America? [22:31] DaemonFC Yeah. Always. [22:31] DaemonFC I'll have two of them now, at least for a while. [22:32] immibis DaemonFC: also that was exactly the reason Soviet citizens couldn't get cars. Some hammer and sickle toting douchebag in Moscow wanted there to be a years-long waiting list. [22:32] DaemonFC I'll give the Impala back to mom. I fixed up all the shit that was broken (that matters). [22:32] DaemonFC It drives almost like new and with 281,000 miles on it. [22:33] MinceR https://64.media.tumblr.com/4db0f52a1f00df44f3b9786f9afddff5/de8dc60539fa00ff-3a/s640x960/884be91c12954cf8ac3c75d9d9b6e17134237a20.png ( https://textsfromsuperheroes.com/post/680470960599597056/zombie ) [22:33] Alternative link CloudFlare: tumblr.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://64.media.tumblr.com/4db0f52a1f00df44f3b9786f9afddff5/de8dc60539fa00ff-3a/s640x960/884be91c12954cf8ac3c75d9d9b6e17134237a20.png https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://64.media.tumblr.com/4db0f52a1f00df44f3b9786f9afddff5/de8dc60539fa00ff-3a/s640x960/884be91c12954cf8ac3c75d9d9b6e17134237a20.png [22:33] TR Bot Texts From Superheroes, Texts From Superheroes Facebook| Twitter | Patreon... [22:33] DaemonFC MinceR, What do you think? [22:33] MinceR \_()_/ [22:33] DaemonFC I ask myself one thing when I buy a car. One important thing. [22:33] DaemonFC What would General Hammond drive? [22:34] immibis "What will Democrat environmentalists think of this car?" [22:34] DaemonFC He had a really nice Mercury Grand Marquis in one episode of SG-1. [22:34] DaemonFC "What will Democrat environmentalists think of this car?" [22:34] MinceR meh [22:34] MinceR i'd rather drive a reliable car [22:34] DaemonFC I know that it will make liberals cry. [22:34] DaemonFC Oh, it's reliable. [22:35] MinceR i'd prefer a Land Cruiser with a V8 [22:35] DaemonFC MinceR, The US auto industry has produced four generally decent engines in the last 40 years. [22:35] MinceR yeah, and i'm not into gambling [22:36] DaemonFC The Ford Vulcan V6, the GM 60 degree V6 (the 3100 SFI model ended up producing 170 hp wand was hella fun in the Beretta), the Ford Modular V8, and the GM 3800 V6. [22:36] DaemonFC The 3800 V6 goes back to 1962. [22:37] DaemonFC *was [22:38] DaemonFC Anyway, the 3800 V6 Series 3 is the best choice if you have a choice. [22:38] DaemonFC They decided to use the stronger connecting rods from the supercharged model even in the NA model. [22:38] DaemonFC So you get much better odds that a MAJOR internal part of the engine will work okay for a very long time. [22:39] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [22:39] DaemonFC Don't buy a 4.6 liter Modular V8 from Ford unless it's a 2001 or newer. [22:39] DaemonFC To avoid those defective DuPont intakes that could fail. [22:40] DaemonFC Buying the 3100 SFI V6 from GM, you should plan to replace the intake manifold gaskets and switch to different coolant. [22:41] DaemonFC So you don't want to pay a lot of money for the car even though it's a good engine other than that. [22:42] DaemonFC https://itstillruns.com/information-3100-sfi-v6-engine-7868958.html [22:42] TR Bot Information on a 3100 SFI V6 Engine | It Still Runs [22:42] DaemonFC It's actually a surprisingly powerful engine for its size. It gets decent mileage in a car like a Beretta or Corsica, where it was the upgrade option from the underpowered Inline 4. [22:43] DaemonFC The car was built around the idea that most people would pick the base engine so it had to be possible to drive it with an engine that put out a wimpy little 100 horsepower. [22:43] DaemonFC The 3100 V6 puts out 175 horsepower. [22:43] DaemonFC So the car really moves if you have that engine. [22:44] DaemonFC MinceR, Most American cars from the 80s, 90s, and 00s have bigger engines than the car itself really needs. [22:44] DaemonFC Like, power to weight ratio. [22:45] DaemonFC I was looking for an older car and pulled up a 1978 Lincoln someone was selling with 38,000 miles on it. 7.5 liter V8. [22:45] DaemonFC Of course, you needed that back then because the engines just weren't very good. [22:46] DaemonFC It put out less power than the 3800 V6 did in the 2000s, and it used more than twice as much fuel in the process. [22:46] DaemonFC Some software in a vehicle is probably a necessary evil, but we long since jumped the shark. [22:47] DaemonFC Especially on how much it can do for fuel economy. [22:47] DaemonFC Now they're making "empty beer cans on wheels with a dinky engine" for, well........whoever responds to TV commercials with giant hamsters in them I guess. [22:49] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcAryIF_ztQ [22:49] TR Bot https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=HcAryIF_ztQ [22:49] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [22:49] TR Bot invidious.namazso.eu | Here's Why Kias are Crap - Invidious [22:50] MinceR i think i've seen that one already [22:54] DaemonFC "A car that's just idling should not be all over the place like that. [22:54] DaemonFC Yeah, my Impala was recently. [22:54] DaemonFC I had to put all new coils on, and an upstream O2 sensor. [22:54] DaemonFC It was messed up. Misfiring like crazy. [22:55] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:55] *bnchs (~bnchs@g5qx48ztcw9ki.irc) has joined #techrights [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.50 k/sec., IPFS upstream 86.48 average k/sec., average swarm size 331.66 ● Apr 09 [23:01] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:02] *bnchs (~bnchs@xhqr5s594wayq.irc) has joined #techrights [23:04] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@6w3v4keu495pe.irc) has joined #techrights [23:06] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:08] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:13] TR News MX Linux 21.1 Released with Linux 5.16 for AHS Edition, Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11.3 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163550 [23:13] TR Bot MX Linux 21.1 Released with Linux 5.16 for AHS Edition, Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11.3 | Tux Machines [23:14] TR News KDE Frameworks 5.93 Brings Multi-Cursor Support for Text Editor Apps, over 280 Changes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163551 [23:14] TR Bot KDE Frameworks 5.93 Brings Multi-Cursor Support for Text Editor Apps, over 280 Changes | Tux Machines [23:24] *mib_dsuc5t (~5c1a5317@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [23:31] *mib_dsuc5t has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [23:37] MinceR (video) (audio:important) https://nitter.eu/obviousplant_/status/1166022957136658432#m [23:37] TR Bot obvious plant (@obviousplant_): "Rando With Real Throbbing Action" | nitter [23:46] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@mii8cedt3f3mk.irc) has joined #techrights [23:47] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [23:50] TR News For EPO Staff on Dutch Territories Purachasing Power Fell 12% in Just One Year While EPO Increased Its Fees | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/04/09/epo-purachasing-power/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/09/epo-purachasing-power/ [23:50] TR Bot For EPO Staff on Dutch Territories Purachasing Power Fell 12% in Just One Year While EPO Increased Its Fees | Techrights