●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, June 09, 2024 ●● ● Jun 09 [00:10] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/hope [00:10] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Hope [00:39] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:39] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [00:47] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:50] *admfubar has quit (connection closed) [00:50] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [00:50] *admfubar (~admfubar@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [00:55] *includeals has quit (Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in) [00:55] *includeals (~includeal@bl21-236-167.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #techrights [00:56] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:56] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jun 09 [01:02] *admfubar has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:04] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:06] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [01:08] IsambardPrince https://boingboing.net/2024/06/08/tj-maxx-and-marshalls-workers-wearing-bodycams.html [01:08] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://boingboing.net/2024/06/08/tj-maxx-and-marshalls-workers-wearing-bodycams.html ) [01:08] IsambardPrince "It's possible that these retailers' chief officers are so malleable that Axon sold them on $2789 crackhead deterrent badges, but it's far more likely that the long-term plan is "see what your employees' hands are up to every second of their shift."" [01:09] IsambardPrince I'd start putting small stickers right over the camera. [01:17] *admfubar (~admfubar@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [01:19] *cow_20012 (~username@wusiwah4aa7ye.irc) has joined #techrights [01:21] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:22] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [01:24] *admfubar has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:30] IsambardPrince Tomorrow I'm going to be making New York Strips in a cast iron skillet. 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Not all companies will go down this route, as there may not be pressure for embiggened profits or whatever it is that darkens the patterns" gemini://thrig.me/blog/2024/06/08/domestication.gmi [02:29] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [02:36] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:37] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [02:37] *schestowitz-TR2 has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [02:37] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@v2x87byxv2p3s.irc) has joined #techrights [02:37] *schestowitz-TR2 (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [02:38] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [02:39] TR News (NEW): Daniel Pocock: European Parliament election count 2024 day 1 https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Daniel_Pocock_European_Parliament_election_count_2024_day_1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Daniel_Pocock_European_Parliament_election_count_2024_day_1.gmi [02:39] TR Bot Tux Machines Daniel Pocock: European Parliament election count 2024 day 1 [02:41] *admfubar has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [02:42] TR News iophk: "LT might be rude about code, at times, but his rants are about the code and when the programmer knows better than to have made the mistake. He explained this succinctly long ago, that link is worth finding." gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/08/Debian_Project_Does_Not_Care_About_Freedom_Anymore_It_Only_Care.gmi [02:42] TR News iophk: "As you point out, Norway is not short of money. But they are in a situation where it is necessary to up their cybersecurity game, as well as where they have additional benefits from increased flexibility and freedom." gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/08/GNU_Linux_Now_20_in_Norway_s_Desktops_Laptops_Over_10_Across_Al.gmi [02:43] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [02:43] *schestowitz-TR2 has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [02:43] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@v2x87byxv2p3s.irc) has joined #techrights [02:43] *schestowitz-TR2 (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [02:44] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:46] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. 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[02:52] TR News (NEW): Today in Techrights https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Today_in_Techrights.gmi [02:52] TR Bot Tux Machines Today in Techrights [02:57] *admfubar (~admfubar@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jun 09 [03:07] *SomeGoat has quit (connection closed) [03:11] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [03:19] *tired has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [03:19] TR News Techrights Microsoft's Windows Has Fallen to New Lows in India (Just 13.7% According to statCounter) https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Microsoft_s_Windows_Has_Fallen_to_New_Lows_in_India_Just_13_7_A.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Microsoft_s_Windows_Has_Fallen_to_New_Lows_in_India_Just_13_7_A.gmi [03:19] TR Bot Techrights Microsoft's Windows Has Fallen to New Lows in India (Just 13.7% According to statCounter) [03:20] *vadparaszt has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [03:24] TR News Fisker Layoffs Hundreds Of Staff As Company Woes Continues https://autojosh.com/fisker-layoffs-hundreds-of-staff-as-company-woes-continues/ [03:24] TR Bot Fisker Layoffs Hundreds Of Staff As Company Woes Continues [03:25] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:26] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [03:29] TR News It looks like Red Hat paid them for these puff pieces https://www.channelfutures.com/channel-business/top-20-stories-may-2024 https://www.channelfutures.com/artificial-intelligence/red-hat-summit-where-open-source-meets-ai Red Hat later links to those puff pieces that it bought [03:29] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.channelfutures.com/channel-business/top-20-stories-may-2024 ) [03:29] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.channelfutures.com/artificial-intelligence/red-hat-summit-where-open-source-meets-ai ) [03:32] TR News "We provide comprehensive marketing-as-a-service offerings via our Informa Engage platform which is used by todays leading ICT providers, advertisers and sponsors to better communicate directly with their trusted channel partners." https://www.channelfutures.com/about-us [03:32] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.channelfutures.com/about-us ) [03:33] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:37] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [03:37] IsambardPrince https://www.thestreet.com/retail/struggling-housing-company-files-chapter-7-bankruptcy-liquidating [03:37] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thestreet.com/retail/struggling-housing-company-files-chapter-7-bankruptcy-liquidating ) [03:37] IsambardPrince LOL [03:37] IsambardPrince schestowitz-pi2: You get your own bedroom. [03:38] IsambardPrince The Democrats have made rent unaffordable and have done nothing to address the problems caused by slumlords and airbnb and illegal rentals. [03:38] IsambardPrince But you can pay these companies a lot of money and not even have your own kitchen or bathroom. [03:38] IsambardPrince The State should be passing a law to ban airbnb before they go further, and into rent control. [03:39] IsambardPrince But we might need rent control too. [03:52] IsambardPrince More articles blaming minimum wage laws for fast food bankruptcies. [03:52] IsambardPrince It's not the workers. It's largely incompetent and overcompensated corporate management and the landlords because they weren't smart enough to do their own real estate and buy it themselves when rates wre better. ● Jun 09 [04:01] TR News Techrights Puff Pieces as a Service (Fake Articles for Sponsors to Link to) https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Puff_Pieces_as_a_Service_Fake_Articles_for_Sponsors_to_Link_to.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Puff_Pieces_as_a_Service_Fake_Articles_for_Sponsors_to_Link_to.gmi [04:01] TR Bot Techrights Puff Pieces as a Service (Fake Articles for Sponsors to Link to) [04:16] TR News Techrights [Meme] The Web as a Source of News https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Meme_The_Web_as_a_Source_of_News.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Meme_The_Web_as_a_Source_of_News.gmi [04:16] TR Bot Techrights [Meme] The Web as a Source of News [04:25] IsambardPrince https://www.sfgate.com/la/article/herbalife-layoffs-execs-controversial-company-19499578.php [04:25] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.sfgate.com/la/article/herbalife-layoffs-execs-controversial-company-19499578.php ) [04:26] IsambardPrince https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/walmart-opposes-adding-panic-buttons-stores-2024-06-08/ [04:26] TR Bot ( status 401 @ https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/walmart-opposes-adding-panic-buttons-stores-2024-06-08/ ) [04:28] IsambardPrince https://neuters.de/world/europe/european-parliament-poised-rightward-shift-after-final-voting-2024-06-09/ [04:28] TR Bot European Parliament poised for rightward shift after final voting [04:29] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:29] IsambardPrince > Many voters have been hit by the cost of living crisis, have concerns about migration and the cost of the green transition and are disturbed by rising geopolitical tensions, including the war in Ukraine. [04:29] IsambardPrince > Hard and far-right parties have seized on this disquiet and offered the electorate an alternative to the mainstream. [04:29] IsambardPrince > European Greens, facing a backlash from hard-pressed households, farmers and industry over costly EU policies limiting CO2 emissions, look set to be among the big losers. [04:30] IsambardPrince That's not good for the United States. [04:30] IsambardPrince Generally we do better when some other part of the world is having a major crisis. [04:30] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [04:31] IsambardPrince Russia in the early 90s, the Asian financial market panic and Russian debt default in the late 90s, Europe and Canada destroying their economies with "green new deals". [04:32] IsambardPrince If they get their acts together and realize all of these climate scams are just a kowtowing to China which is designed to absolutely decimate the living standards in the West and get us to commit Economic Suicide, then maybe they will be better off, and that will weaken demand for the US Dollar. [04:33] IsambardPrince China talks out of both sides of its mouth. The reason that carbon dioxide levels are rising as fast as they ever have despite the US making huge cuts to CO2 emissions is because for very coal plant we shut down, China builds like five. [04:33] IsambardPrince And the ones China builds are less efficient, with no scrubbers on them. [04:34] IsambardPrince The NIPSCO coal plants in Indiana are so clean (particulates, sulfur dioxide, mercury, etc.) that you can put a kids park right next to them. [04:34] IsambardPrince The ones in China put out so much smog that evening in Beijing, you can barely see two feet in front of you. [04:35] IsambardPrince The left in the US is very good about panic-mongering, and using words like "sacrifice zones", and saying "they put them near Black people!". [04:35] IsambardPrince But the truth is that since the early 90s or so, emitting pollutants that are a major concern to human health has been illegal as US power plants. [04:36] IsambardPrince *at [04:36] IsambardPrince And there's other problems, like, EVs. [04:36] IsambardPrince Most of the grid still runs on fossil fuels. If not coal, gas. [04:37] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:37] IsambardPrince There's no law that says that companies have to cap off old wells when they're done, or account for incidental pollution that comes flying out of those wells, so getting the gas to run the plants, to make electricity for the cars is emitting methane into the open atmosphere that nobody gets to use for anything. [04:38] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [04:39] TR News Techrights For the First Time, Android Measured as Higher (in Web Usage) Than Windows in New Zealand https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/For_the_First_Time_Android_Measured_as_Higher_in_Web_Usage_Than.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/For_the_First_Time_Android_Measured_as_Higher_in_Web_Usage_Than.gmi [04:40] TR Bot Techrights For the First Time, Android Measured as Higher (in Web Usage) Than Windows in New Zealand [04:57] TR News NSA and GCHQ target Tor network that protects anonymity of web users https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/04/nsa-gchq-attack-tor-network-encryption [04:57] TR Bot NSA and GCHQ target Tor network that protects anonymity of web users | The NSA files | The Guardian [04:59] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Jun 09 [05:03] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [05:04] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.mail-archive.com/discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu/msg00893.html [05:04] TR Bot Re: NSA, GCHQ & Debian links, Jonathan Wiltshire, Tiger Computing? [05:04] schestowitz[TR2] " [05:04] schestowitz[TR2] * darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights" [05:04] schestowitz[TR2] oops [05:05] schestowitz[TR2] " [05:05] schestowitz[TR2] If GCHQ wanted to infiltrate Debian then I have no doubt that they could [05:05] schestowitz[TR2] do so. Are you asserting that they have done so? [05:05] schestowitz[TR2] -- [05:05] schestowitz[TR2] Matthew Garrett | mj...@srcf.ucam.org" [05:05] schestowitz[TR2] "Hi Daniel [05:05] schestowitz[TR2] Could you walk us through this a little more clearly? Is the suggestion [05:05] schestowitz[TR2] that GCHQ infiltrated DAM and that your expulsion from Debian was [05:05] schestowitz[TR2] encouraged by individuals working for the British signal intelligence [05:05] schestowitz[TR2] organisation? [05:05] schestowitz[TR2] -- [05:05] schestowitz[TR2] Matthew Garrett | mj...@srcf.ucam.org" [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] you can see who is targeting both us and pocock [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] and covers up for spies [05:06] schestowitz[TR2] on the surface [05:07] schestowitz[TR2] " [05:07] schestowitz[TR2] Is there any difference between GCHQ agents infiltrating Debian and [05:07] schestowitz[TR2] Google apologists infiltrating Debian?" [05:09] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.mail-archive.com/discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu/msg00909.html [05:09] TR Bot Re: NSA, GCHQ & Debian links, Jonathan Wiltshire, Tiger Computing? [05:09] schestowitz[TR2] " [05:09] schestowitz[TR2] Many people choose to be in central London but the people who choose to [05:09] schestowitz[TR2] be out in the countryside near GCHQ may not be there for agricultural work. [05:09] schestowitz[TR2] Many people choose to be in central London but the people who choose to [05:09] schestowitz[TR2] be out in the countryside near GCHQ may not be there for agricultural work. [05:09] schestowitz[TR2] Many people choose to be in central London but the people who choose to [05:09] schestowitz[TR2] be out in the countryside near GCHQ may not be there for agricultural work." [05:15] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:16] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [05:32] IsambardPrince > Jona Azizaj (she/her) [05:32] IsambardPrince > @room DEI team meeting now See you on Google Meet [05:32] IsambardPrince schestowitz[TR2]: DEI meeting on Google Meet! [05:32] IsambardPrince (Fedora) [05:33] schestowitz[TR2] Fedora and the Holocaust [05:33] schestowitz[TR2] Diversity(TM) [05:33] IsambardPrince They don't use Free Software to discuss this? [05:33] TR News Techrights Edward Snowden's Leaks Proved That GCHQ Targeted Tor Network, So Why Not Other Security and Encryption Tools? https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Edward_Snowden_s_Leaks_Proved_That_GCHQ_Targeted_Tor_Network_So.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Edward_Snowden_s_Leaks_Proved_That_GCHQ_Targeted_Tor_Network_So.gmi [05:33] TR Bot Techrights Edward Snowden's Leaks Proved That GCHQ Targeted Tor Network, So Why Not Other Security and Encryption Tools? [05:34] IsambardPrince https://pointieststick.com/2024/06/07/these-past-two-weeks-in-kde-massive-stability-work-for-plasma-6-1/ [05:34] TR Bot These past two weeks in KDE: massive stability work for Plasma 6.1 Adventures in Linux and KDE [05:34] IsambardPrince There's a lot of bugs to fix regarding Wayland. [05:35] IsambardPrince Including reimplementing X11-like protocols on top of Wayland so that KDE continues functioning the way people have come to expect. [05:36] IsambardPrince It seems they realize that IBM rules over Wayland with an iron fist, but that you can extend it with custom protocols that not everyone else (other desktops and toolkits) can consume. [05:36] IsambardPrince :) [05:36] IsambardPrince Certainly this won't lead to a mess. [05:37] schestowitz[TR2] wayland barely solvezs issues [05:37] schestowitz[TR2] it tackles some [05:37] schestowitz[TR2] but to most users they are not issues [05:37] schestowitz[TR2] on the route there more issues are created [05:37] schestowitz[TR2] so why bother taking that route? [05:37] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:37] schestowitz[TR2] because of ICBM lobbying? [05:37] IsambardPrince Including carrying around XWayland forever. [05:37] schestowitz[TR2] hype? [05:38] schestowitz[TR2] if they keep bits of X, are they solving many issues [05:38] schestowitz[TR2] ? [05:38] schestowitz[TR2] the x sec issues will be inherited [05:38] IsambardPrince Nobody understands X11! Solution: Let's make something new and have X11 inside of it! [05:38] schestowitz[TR2] they just ADD yet MORE code [05:38] schestowitz[TR2] even code that is not mature [05:38] schestowitz[TR2] so there may be more sec holes than before [05:38] schestowitz[TR2] see systemd [05:38] schestowitz[TR2] so many holes [05:38] IsambardPrince Right, this is like X11.app on the Mac. [05:38] schestowitz[TR2] like polkit issues [05:38] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [05:38] IsambardPrince X11 is synonymous with UNIX/POSIX even if that's not officially so. [05:39] IsambardPrince It's been around for 40 years, lots of people aren't interested in X11. [05:39] IsambardPrince Even if you were willing to port their application for them, they're not interested. [05:39] IsambardPrince So there's XWayland, forever. [05:39] IsambardPrince *aren't interested in porting from X11 [05:40] IsambardPrince Like, this is where IBM did more work. [05:40] IsambardPrince Hundreds of patches to let XWayland take over the entire screen. [05:40] IsambardPrince Then you lose your "security" claims. [05:41] IsambardPrince Because when XWayland is there running an X11 windowing manager full screen, all applications have access to all input and all other applications. [05:41] IsambardPrince The whole point of Rootful is to hurt non-Linux systems. [05:42] IsambardPrince And that may be the entire point of Wayland too. [05:42] IsambardPrince I think it already is with SystemD and GNOME. [05:43] IsambardPrince https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=grave&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=crash&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=minor&bug_status=RESOLVED&chfield=bug_status&chfieldfrom=2024-5-24&chfieldto=2024-6-7&chfieldvalue=RESOLVED&list_id=2738228&order=component%2Cbug_status%2Cpriority%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_id&query_format=advanced&resolution=FIXED [05:43] TR Bot Bug List [05:44] IsambardPrince "294 KDE bugs of all kinds fixed over the last two weeks. Full list of bugs" [05:45] schestowitz[TR2] IsambardPrince: can you narrow down by wayland? [05:45] IsambardPrince 40 marked Wayland. 5 marked X11. [05:45] IsambardPrince Either the component is Wayland or the bug is caused by an interaction with Wayland. [05:46] IsambardPrince So they're fixing 8 Wayland-related bugs lately for every 1 that involves X11. ● Jun 09 [06:07] *IsambardPrince has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [06:16] *IsambardPrince (~isambardprince@dyb2tn68iuk98.irc) has joined #techrights [06:17] IsambardPrince https://neuters.de/business/retail-consumer/walmart-pay-us-hourly-store-workers-bonuses-first-time-ever-2024-06-05/ [06:17] TR Bot Walmart offers bonus program to about 700,000 hourly US store workers [06:17] IsambardPrince schestowitz[TR2]: Retailer with 40% annual employee turnover offers bonus of "up to" $1,000 for employees who have been there 20 years. [06:18] IsambardPrince https://www.neuters.de/business/retail-consumer/sheins-pre-ipo-charm-offensive-hits-roadblocks-europe-2024-06-07/ [06:18] TR Bot Shein's pre-IPO charm offensive hits roadblocks in Europe [06:19] IsambardPrince The wealthy and fashion designers hate Shein because anyone can afford to shop there (including my mother) and get dresses and things that look exactly the same as a "designer" dress. [06:19] IsambardPrince Making dresses and handbags isn't expensive. [06:20] IsambardPrince What's expensive is putting a "designer" label on it. [06:20] IsambardPrince Burberry's incinerates clothing and stuff by the truckload rather than discount it. [06:20] IsambardPrince It adds to the illusion that it's worth a lot of money. [06:20] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:22] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [06:23] IsambardPrince If one piece of clothing cost anything close to $500 to make, they would NEVER do that. 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[07:12] IsambardPrince https://freedom-to-tinker.com/2013/09/20/software-transparency-debian-openssl-bug/ [07:12] TR Bot The Debian OpenSSL Bug: Backdoor or Security Accident? - Freedom to Tinker [07:15] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:18] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [07:47] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:49] Sompi The local labour force bureau has finally noticed that Microsoft Teams is a security risk and now they use something called "VideoVisit" as a replacement [07:49] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [07:50] Sompi That VideoVisit seems to be made by a Finnish company. It is proprietary so it is not any better than Teams. So they just replaced a proprietary spyware with another proprietary spyware [07:50] Sompi And that VideoVisit doesn't even work. It only shows a loading animation and cannot connect the video streams ● Jun 09 [08:07] IsambardPrince Government. [08:08] IsambardPrince I can't think of any way we'd actually be worse off if the Confederacy had won the civil war. [08:09] IsambardPrince Would they too have me living in a building that's falling apart under some slumlord from India that doesn't fix anything and jacks the rent up? [08:09] IsambardPrince Doesn't care if I have a toilet. [08:09] IsambardPrince It only took this apartment complex a year to turn into India. [08:09] IsambardPrince (No toilets. People squatting wherever.) [08:13] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:16] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [08:37] IsambardPrince schestowitz[TR2]: I decided to watch "They Live". [08:37] IsambardPrince It's especially fitting for this day and age. [08:53] IsambardPrince I like when he puts on the glasses and an ad that says "Come to the Caribbean" is hiding a subliminal that says "Marry and Reproduce". [08:54] IsambardPrince "Work 8 hours. Sleep 8 hours. Play 8 hours." [08:54] IsambardPrince Almost sounds like paradise compared with what we have now. [08:55] IsambardPrince "Submit" "Obey" "No thought" "Conform" "Buy" "Consume" [08:55] IsambardPrince LOL [08:57] IsambardPrince LOL [08:57] IsambardPrince He looks at money. [08:57] IsambardPrince "This is your God." ● Jun 09 [09:35] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:36] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [09:45] schestowitz[TR2] schestowitz[TR2]: I decided to watch "They Live". [09:45] schestowitz[TR2] good choice [09:46] schestowitz[TR2] schestowitz[TR2]: Regarding Debian being infiltrated, remember the broken pseudorandom number generator they shipped? [09:46] schestowitz[TR2] oh, 20213 [09:46] schestowitz[TR2] but was that just Debian? [09:47] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:48] TR News "We cant connect to the server at www.pirateparty.org.uk." 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[10:22] IsambardPrince I don't think that made it into Ubuntu. [10:22] TR News "The Tulip Creative Computer is powered by the ESP32-S3 chip" https://linuxgizmos.com/tulip-creative-computer-esp32-based-board-for-music-and-coding-projects/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [10:22] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/tulip-creative-computer-esp32-based-board-for-music-and-coding-projects/ ) [10:23] *x-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) [10:23] TR News "a male USB-C connector"... ooooh, some people will get offended by this text https://linuxgizmos.com/thingpulse-pendrive-s3-versatile-as-both-a-lightweight-wi-fi-disk-and-rubber-ducky-device/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [10:23] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/thingpulse-pendrive-s3-versatile-as-both-a-lightweight-wi-fi-disk-and-rubber-ducky-device/ ) [10:24] TR News (NEW): ExTiX Ubuntu-based Linux distribution https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/ExTiX_Ubuntu_based_Linux_distribution.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/ExTiX_Ubuntu_based_Linux_distribution.gmi [10:24] TR Bot Tux Machines ExTiX Ubuntu-based Linux distribution [10:24] TR News "In this post, we will cover how to setup Bind Server on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (Noble Numbat) step by step." https://www.linuxbuzz.com/setup-bind-server-on-ubuntu/ | Source: Linux Buzz [10:24] TR Bot How to Setup Bind Server on Ubuntu 24.04 [10:24] cblinux Sompi, thanks for the data from Finland. Videoconferencing can be traced back to a popular science fiction meme. But hacker collectives get work done (linux kernel, gnu, bsd) without it, only bureaucrats and politicians fell for this clumsy, expensive and insecure communications fad https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/07/cisco_fixes_webex_flaw_which/ [10:24] TR Bot Cisco fixes WebEx flaw after government comms exposed The Register [10:25] schestowitz[TR2] Sompi: response from a friend: [10:25] schestowitz[TR2] "They should be using BigBlueButton or Jisti-Meet (which is different from [10:25] schestowitz[TR2] Jitsi) [10:25] schestowitz[TR2] " [10:28] TR News "Why should scale let someone get away with copyright" https://rubenerd.com/creative-commons-evaluates-eu-ai-legislation/ | Source: Ruben Schade [10:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd [10:29] TR News "The notifications sent to users of Facebook and Instagram in Europe" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/can-you-opt-out-of-metas-ai-scraping-sort-of/articleshow/110812275.cms | Source: India Times [10:29] TR Bot AI scraping: Can you opt out of Meta's AI scraping? 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prison population growth [13:46] TR News "Her marriage was not enough to save her because escapees in China are undocumented" https://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/north-geneva-escapees-forced-repatriation-06062024124939.html | Source: RFA [13:46] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/north-geneva-escapees-forced-repatriation-06062024124939.html ) [13:47] TR News "pledged allegiance to Islamic State" https://www.voanews.com/a/suspected-islamists-kill-dozens-in-attack-on-eastern-congo-villages/7648236.html | Source: VOA News [13:47] TR Bot Suspected Islamists kill dozens in attack on eastern Congo villages [13:50] TR News "European Center for Digital Rights" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/meta-hit-with-privacy-complaints-over-ai-plans/articleshow/110826228.cms | Source: India Times [13:50] TR Bot Meta: Meta hit with privacy complaints over AI plans - The Economic Times [13:50] TR News "Recall will be available for personal computers that 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GNU/Linux Leaps Past 3% in Brunei Darussalam https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/08/GNU_Linux_Leaps_Past_3_in_Brunei_Darussalam.shtml [13:58] TR Bot Techrights GNU/Linux Leaps Past 3% in Brunei Darussalam [13:59] TR News Netherlands: GNU/Linux and Chromebooks at About 5% - Highest in a Year https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Netherlands_GNU_Linux_and_Chromebooks_at_About_5_Highest_in_a_Y.shtml [13:59] TR Bot Techrights Netherlands: GNU/Linux and Chromebooks at About 5% - Highest in a Year [13:59] *fury999i- is now known as fury999io ● Jun 09 [14:00] TR News "The only thing more terrifying than a company that deals in unchecked" https://www.voanews.com/a/us-lawmakers-call-for-scrutiny-of-newsbreak-app-over-chinese-origins/7648207.html | Source: VOA News [14:00] TR Bot US lawmakers call for scrutiny of NewsBreak app over Chinese origins [14:00] TR News "AP signed a deal" https://pressgazette.co.uk/publishers/wires_and_agencies/advertising-philanthropy-and-ai-how-the-ap-is-diversifying-its-revenue-streams/ | Source: Press Gazette [14:00] TR Bot How Associated Press is future-proofing revenues - Press Gazette [14:01] TR News "And as a result its seen close to 250,000 unique visits in two and a half weeks" https://tedium.co/2024/06/07/small-website-tools-importance/ | Source: Tedium [14:01] TR Bot Small Tools: What The Internet Needs In 2024 [14:02] TR News "The first issue, tracked as CVE-2024-28996" https://www.securityweek.com/solarwinds-patches-high-severity-vulnerability-reported-by-nato-pentester/ | Source: Security Week [14:02] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.securityweek.com/solarwinds-patches-high-severity-vulnerability-reported-by-nato-pentester/ ) [14:02] TR News "As a researcher who studies both online communities and AI ethics" 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We should all be worried [14:06] TR News "I had lunch today with a couple of guys I've known for more than twenty years." https://louplummer.lol/post/adults-making-friends | Source: Lou Plummer [14:06] TR Bot Adults Making Friends | Living Out Loud [14:07] TR News "I was away much of last week, using my laptop rather than my desktop machine." https://www.jeremycherfas.net/blog/distinguishing-my-machines | Source: Jeremy Cherfas [14:07] TR Bot Distinguishing my machines | Jeremy Cherfas [14:08] TR News "This resulted in a very particualar situation." https://michal.sapka.me/unix-history/03_unix_wars/ | Source: Micha Sapka [14:08] TR Bot History of Unix part III: Forks and Wars @ Micha Sapka's website [14:09] TR News "Its a dense read, but could be interesting if youre into federation." https://birchtree.me/blog/what-happens-when-you-defederate-a-server/ | Source: Matt Birchler [14:09] TR Bot What happens when you defederate a server [14:09] TR News "Now for the tough/fun part; figuring out how to transfer the idea for a multimedia player from my mind" https://www.instructables.com/Media-Player-With-Raspberry-Pi-Retrofit-Vintage-Cl/ | Source: Instructables [14:10] TR Bot Player With Raspberry Pi - Retrofit Vintage Clock Radio : 9 Steps (with Pictures) - Instructables [14:10] TR News "Mikes vision and dedication were instrumental in shaping the FreeBSD" https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-announce/2024-June/000135.html | Source: FreeBSD [14:10] TR Bot In Memory of Mike Karels [14:11] TR News "These days any development I do for myself will use nix to" https://mediocregopher.com/posts/init-project | Source: Mediocregopher [14:11] TR Bot Simple Script to Initialize nix-Based Projects - mediocregopher's lil web corner [14:12] *cow_20012 has quit (Quit: ) [14:13] TR News "When I played the CD version it became clear" https://www.windytan.com/2020/12/plotting-patterns-in-music-with-fantasy.html | Source: Oona Risnen [14:13] TR Bot absorptions: Plotting patterns in music with a fantasy record player [14:14] TR News "At the start of the year I restored a lot of old posts to this site from a WordPress backup." https://chrismcleod.dev/blog/post-restoration-project-dealing-with-wordpress-post-kinds-data/ | Source: Chris McLeod [14:14] TR Bot Post Restoration Project - Dealing with WordPress Post-Kinds Data Chris McLeod [14:14] TR News "A while back I wrote about how metrics have many different uses" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/OperatingServicesVsEnvironment | Source: University of Toronto [14:14] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/OperatingServicesVsEnvironment [14:14] TR News "Here comes the beautiful part. You dont have to do anything. Deploying your own copy of LogAnalyzer is as simple as 1, 2, 3." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2024/06/loganalyzer-an-easy-to-use-log-monitoring-tool-for-r-shiny-applications/ | Source: Rlang [14:14] TR Bot An Easy-to-Use Log Monitoring Tool for R/Shiny Applications | R-bloggers [14:16] TR News "The answer is, in task 1!" https://blog.dave.tf/post/linux-pid0/ | Source: Dave Anderson [14:16] TR Bot is PID 0? blog.dave.tf [14:17] TR News 2024-06-08 dmv.org https://computer.rip/2024-06-08-dmv.org.html [14:17] TR Bot 2024-06-08 dmv.org [14:26] TR News How To Install Anaconda on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS https://idroot.us/install-anaconda-ubuntu-24-04/ [14:26] TR Bot How To Install Anaconda on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS - idroot [14:26] TR News How To Install Anaconda on Fedora 40 https://idroot.us/install-anaconda-fedora-40/ [14:26] TR Bot How To Install Anaconda on Fedora 40 - idroot [14:26] TR News How to Install MySQL Server on Ubuntu 24.04 https://tecadmin.net/how-to-install-mysql-server-on-ubuntu-24-04/ [14:26] TR Bot How to Install MySQL Server on Ubuntu 24.04 TecAdmin [14:26] TR News The Notorious, Catastrophic 2008 Debian OpenSSH Vulnerability (updated) https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/08/The_Notorious_Catastrophic_2008_Debian_OpenSSH_Vulnerability.shtml [14:26] TR Bot Techrights The Notorious, Catastrophic 2008 Debian OpenSSH Vulnerability [14:28] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/today_s_howtos.gmi [14:28] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [14:29] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Security_Leftovers.gmi [14:29] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [14:30] TR News "I've spent the past two days tracking down a bug, and I think it's a library issue. So I have this program I wrote some time ago that uses Xlib [1] and for reasons, I needed to store a 64-bit value that's related to a window. This is easy enough with setting a window property." gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2024/04/04.1 [14:31] TR News My Excitement for The Acolyte, Star Wars, and Starting Star Trek gemini://auragem.letz.dev/~clseibold/20240608.gmi [14:31] TR News Im a paranoid schizophrenic with surround-sound speakers gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/adiabatic/scrawlspace/2024/ [14:32] MinceR 09 151613 < techrights-news> "The answer is, in task 1!" https://blog.dave.tf/post/linux-pid0/ | Source: Dave Anderson [14:32] MinceR too bad dave is a cancerd cultist [14:32] TR News SpellBinding: ACWILTD Wordo: ROOTY gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2024-06-09.gmi [14:32] schestowitz[TR2] MinceR: inter-pid [14:33] TR News "The word its is a difficult and weird word since its the possessive case and possessive noun clauses usually do end with s, like Marys chain. We dont have anything similar in Swedish, either (we would write Marias ktting), so I have no intuition for this and its one of my most common English mistakes." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/its [14:34] TR News "I got asked a rhetorical question the other day after I said that I believe that people and policies are to a large extent influenced by market forces, like advertising." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/gravel [14:35] TR News "When I think of modernism I think of the search for the perfect system, the grand unified theory, the silver bullet that holds everything together. An end to the patchwork of folk wisdom, replaced by a directed effort to put everything in order based on one foundational truth." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/incomplete-systems [14:36] TR News "Presently am I learning RISC OS 5.30 on my Raspberry Pi Zero W. I want to write some programs and I learned C back in University. I am familiar with C on POSIX systems but not on RISC OS. These are my notes to remind myself how things work differently on RISC OS." gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/rsdoiel/blog/2024/06/08/riscos_gcc_and_hello.md [14:38] TR News Kate Fun Logo https://kate-editor.org/post/2024/2024-06-08-kate-fun-logo/ [14:38] TR Bot Kate Fun Logo - Kate [14:38] TR News For the First Time, Android Measured as Higher (in Web Usage) Than backdoored Windows in New Zealand https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/For_the_First_Time_Android_Measured_as_Higher_in_Web_Usage_Than.shtml [14:38] TR Bot Techrights For the First Time, Android Measured as Higher (in Web Usage) Than Windows in New Zealand [14:38] TR News Djibouti: backdoored Windows Falls Below 15% (It Used to be Almost 100%!), Android Surges to Almost 80% https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/08/Djibouti_Windows_Falls_Below_15_It_Used_to_be_Almost_100_Androi.shtml [14:38] TR Bot Techrights Djibouti: Windows Falls Below 15% (It Used to be Almost 100%!), Android Surges to Almost 80% [14:39] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [14:40] TR News South Koreas doctors plan June 18 walk-out, strike to protest against reforms https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/south-koreas-doctors-plan-june-18-strike-to-protest-reforms [14:40] TR Bot South Koreas doctors plan June 18 walk-out, strike to protest against reforms | The Straits Times [14:40] TR News Crackers, spouses, bosses will turn that on https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/microsoft-backtracks-on-new-recall-feature-enhancing-recalls-security-and-making-it-an-opt-in-decision [14:40] TR Bot Microsoft backtracks on new Recall feature enhancing Recall's security and making it an opt-in decision | Tom's Hardware [14:41] TR News GNOME Expects to Use New Showtime as Core Video Player https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2024/06/gnome-video-player-showtime/ [14:41] TR Bot GNOME Expects to Use New Showtime as Core Video Player | UbuntuHandbook [14:43] TR News (NEW): Software: Showtime, Kate, XScreenSaver https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Software_Showtime_Kate_XScreenSaver.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Software_Showtime_Kate_XScreenSaver.gmi [14:43] TR Bot Tux Machines Software: Showtime, Kate, XScreenSaver [14:46] TR News (NEW): BSD Developer Mike Karels Dies, FreeBSD 13 Testing https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/05/BSD_Developer_Mike_Karels_Dies_FreeBSD_13_Testing.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/05/BSD_Developer_Mike_Karels_Dies_FreeBSD_13_Testing.gmi [14:46] TR Bot Tux Machines BSD Developer Mike Karels Dies, FreeBSD 13 Testing [14:50] TR News (NEW): Today's Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/today_s_leftovers.gmi [14:50] TR Bot Tux Machines today's leftovers [14:56] TR News Techrights Gemini Links 09/06/2024: Advertising and RISC OS 5.30 https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Gemini_Links_09_06_2024_Advertising_and_RISC_OS_5_30.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Gemini_Links_09_06_2024_Advertising_and_RISC_OS_5_30.gmi [14:56] TR Bot Techrights Gemini Links 09/06/2024: Advertising and RISC OS 5.30 [14:56] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights ● Jun 09 [15:06] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [15:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [15:26] TR News Propagandists are using Hey Hi (AI) tooand companies need to be open about it https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/06/08/1093356/propagandists-are-using-ai-too-and-companies-need-to-be-open-about-it/ [15:26] TR Bot Propagandists are using AI too | MIT Technology Review [15:33] admfubar https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/09/patients-charged-hospital-facility-fees [15:33] TR Bot US patients charged for hospital facility fees even if they dont set foot in one | US healthcare | The Guardian [15:34] admfubar eeeeewwwwww... https://www.theguardian.com/food/article/2024/jun/09/raw-milk-powdered-meat-smoothie-erewhon [15:34] TR Bot Playing Russian roulette with your health: my encounter with LAs raw-milk, powdered-meat smoothie | Food | The Guardian [15:36] TR News Techrights Links 09/06/2024: Microsoft Adds Windows Mass Surveillance (Recall) in Hibernation First (Boiling Frog, Like UEFI 'Secure' Boot) https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Links_09_06_2024_Microsoft_Adds_Windows_Mass_Surveillance_Recal.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Links_09_06_2024_Microsoft_Adds_Windows_Mass_Surveillance_Recal.gmi [15:36] TR Bot Techrights Links 09/06/2024: Microsoft Adds Windows Mass Surveillance (Recall) in Hibernation First (Boiling Frog, Like UEFI 'Secure' Boot) [15:43] *isak has quit (Quit: The Lounge - 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Lets Talk About How Apple Is Giving You an A.I. Makeover. - The New York Times [16:57] TR News Who else will pluck the tea? Birthplace of South Korean green tea grapples with labour shortage https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/who-else-will-pluck-the-tea-birthplace-of-south-korean-green-tea-grapples-with-labour-shortage [16:57] TR Bot Who else will pluck the tea? 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[17:16] TR News ACEBOTT QE007 review An ESP32-based Smart Home STEAM education kit for 8+ years old kids https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/06/09/acebott-qe007-review-a-esp32-based-smart-home-steam-education-kit-for-8-years-old-kids/ [17:16] TR Bot ACEBOTT QE007 review - An ESP32-based Smart Home STEAM education kit for 8+ years old kids - CNX Software [17:17] TR News Fixing a knockoff Altera USB Blaster that never worked https://www.downtowndougbrown.com/2024/06/fixing-a-knockoff-altera-usb-blaster-that-never-worked/ [17:17] TR Bot Downtown Doug Brown Fixing a knockoff Altera USB Blaster that never worked [17:20] TR News Best Raspberry Pi HATs 2024: Expansion Boards for Every Project https://www.tomshardware.com/best-picks/best-raspberry-pi-hats [17:20] TR Bot Best Raspberry Pi HATs 2024: Expansion Boards for Every Project | Tom's Hardware [17:21] TR News Build Your First Go Function https://thenewstack.io/build-your-first-go-function/ [17:21] TR Bot Build Your First Go Function - The New Stack [17:29] TR News fired for tweeting about recession https://www.livemint.com/news/india/it-engineer-fired-for-tweeting-about-recession-in-tech-industry-finds-job-opportunities-on-social-media-11707534381689.html [17:29] TR Bot Bengaluru-based IT engineer fired for tweeting about recession in tech industry | Mint) [17:32] TR News Outsourcing to Google is a very bad idea, not a feature https://hamradio.my/2024/06/unlocking-website-performance-harnessing-google-drive-as-a-cdn/ [17:32] TR Bot Website Performance: Harnessing Google Drive as a CDN - HamRadio.My [17:32] TR News Faizul "Piju" 9M2PJU: Embracing Ubuntu: The Code of Conduct v2.0 https://hamradio.my/2024/06/embracing-ubuntu-the-code-of-conduct-v2-0/ [17:32] TR Bot Ubuntu: The Code of Conduct v2.0 - HamRadio.My [17:34] TR News GNUnet News: GNUnet 0.21.2 https://gnunet.org/en/news/2024-06-0.21.2.html [17:34] TR Bot GNUnet [17:34] TR News GNU World Order 568 http://gnuworldorder.info//audiophile/gnuWorldOrder_568_ogg.ogg [17:35] TR News OBS Studio 30.2 Promises NVENC AV1 and Shared Texture Support on GNU/Linux https://9to5linux.com/obs-studio-30-2-promises-nvenc-av1-and-shared-texture-support-on-linux [17:35] TR Bot Studio 30.2 Promises NVENC AV1 and Shared Texture Support on Linux - 9to5Linux [17:36] TR News M5PoECAM-W V1.1: A Programmable PoE Camera with ESP32+W5500 Chipset & 3MP OV3660 Sensor https://linuxgizmos.com/m5poecam-w-v1-1-a-programmable-poe-camera-with-esp32w5500-chipset-3mp-ov3660-sensor/ [17:36] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/m5poecam-w-v1-1-a-programmable-poe-camera-with-esp32w5500-chipset-3mp-ov3660-sensor/ ) [17:36] TR News xmake cross-platform build utility based on Lua https://www.linuxlinks.com/xmake-cross-platform-build-utility/ [17:36] TR Bot - cross-platform build utility based on Lua - LinuxLinks [17:37] TR News How to Clear History in Ubuntu https://www.maketecheasier.com/clear-history-in-ubuntu/ [17:37] TR Bot How to Clear History in Ubuntu - Make Tech Easier [17:37] TR News ScyllaDB real-time big data database https://www.linuxlinks.com/scylladb-real-time-big-data-database/ [17:37] TR Bot - real-time big data database - LinuxLinks [17:38] TR News KeyDB high performance fork of Redis https://www.linuxlinks.com/keydb-high-performance-fork-redis/ [17:38] TR Bot - high performance fork of Redis - LinuxLinks [17:38] TR News 4 Best Free and Open Source Character Map Tools https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-open-source-character-map-tools/ [17:38] TR Bot Best Free and Open Source Character Map Tools - LinuxLinks [17:38] TR News 9 Best Free and Open Source Host-Based Intrusion Detection Systems https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-open-source-host-based-intrusion-detection-systems/ [17:38] TR Bot Best Free and Open Source Host-Based Intrusion Detection Systems - LinuxLinks [17:39] TR News ExTiX Ubuntu-based GNU/Linux distribution https://www.linuxlinks.com/extix-ubuntu-based-linux-distribution/ [17:39] TR Bot - Ubuntu-based Linux distribution - LinuxLinks [17:39] TR News "Additionally, you can personalize Alacritty using its configuration file. Its configuration is based on YAML files that allow you to customize various settings such as window title, startup mode, window dimensions, and cursor styles." https://www.howtogeek.com/best-default-linux-terminal-alternatives/ [17:39] TR Bot Your Default Linux Terminal Emulator Is Dull, So Take These Alternatives for a Spin [17:40] TR News Ventoy 1.0.99 Bootable USB Drive Creator Enhances EFI Boot https://linuxiac.com/ventoy-1-0-99-enhances-efi-boot/ [17:40] TR Bot Ventoy 1.0.99 Bootable USB Drive Creator Enhances EFI Boot [17:40] TR News Fedora Plans to Switch Anaconda Installer to Wayland https://linuxiac.com/fedora-plans-to-switch-anaconda-installer-to-wayland/ [17:40] TR Bot Fedora Plans to Switch Anaconda Installer to Wayland [17:40] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@j9gt2haw74jrk.irc) has joined #techrights [17:41] TR News 18 Best Free and Open Source Build Systems https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-open-source-build-systems/ [17:41] TR Bot Best Free and Open Source Build Systems - LinuxLinks [17:42] TR News The Hitchhikers Guide to Linear Models https://www.r-bloggers.com/2024/06/the-hitchhikers-guide-to-linear-models/ [17:42] TR Bot Hitchhikers Guide to Linear Models | R-bloggers [17:45] TR News OBS Studio 30.2 Beta is out [17:45] TR News (NEW): Is Linux the only platform left to escape AI? https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Is_Linux_the_only_platform_left_to_escape_AI.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Is_Linux_the_only_platform_left_to_escape_AI.gmi [17:45] TR Bot Tux Machines Is Linux the only platform left to escape AI? [17:45] TR News Why you shouldnt use boxplots https://www.r-bloggers.com/2024/06/why-you-shouldnt-use-boxplots/ [17:45] TR Bot you shouldnt use boxplots | R-bloggers [17:52] TR News Thorsten Alteholz: My Debian Activities in May 2024 http://blog.alteholz.eu/2024/06/2496/ [17:52] TR Bot Debian Activities in May 2024 blog.alteholz.eu [17:52] TR News Reproducible Builds: Reproducible Builds in May 2024 https://reproducible-builds.org/reports/2024-05/ [17:52] TR Bot Builds in May 2024 reproducible-builds.org [17:52] eidolon https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/malicious-visual-studio-code-extensions-with-millions-of-installs-discovered/ [17:52] TR Bot Malicious VSCode extensions with millions of installs discovered [17:53] schestowitz[TR2] VSCode is liaicious also [17:53] schestowitz[TR2] even from official sources [17:53] schestowitz[TR2] VSCode is microsoft proprietary spywar [17:54] TR News Bootstrapping PC DOS 3.30 on an I.C.B.M. 5160 PC/XT https://rubenerd.com/bootstrapping-dos-330-on-an-ibm-5160-pcxt/ [17:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd [17:54] TR News Huge Study Reveals How Often Cannabis Triggers Psychotic Episodes https://www.sciencealert.com/huge-study-reveals-how-often-cannabis-triggers-psychotic-episodes [17:54] TR Bot Study Reveals How Often Cannabis Triggers Psychotic Episodes : ScienceAlert [17:55] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/why-6 [17:55] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Why [17:56] eidolon https://oshi.at/PUTC/gTLc.png [17:56] eidolon ;D [17:56] MinceR :) [17:57] schestowitz[TR2] i don't get it [17:57] schestowitz[TR2] i eard it before [17:57] schestowitz[TR2] i think the statement is a meme [17:57] MinceR https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.html [17:58] TR Bot Ed, man! !man ed- GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) [17:58] TR News A Lesson From Covid on How to Destroy Public Trust https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/08/opinion/covid-fauci-hearings-health.html [17:58] TR Bot Opinion | A Lesson From Covid on How to Destroy Public Trust - The New York Times [17:58] schestowitz[TR2] how dare gnu make jokes? [17:59] MinceR well, it probably stopped [17:59] eidolon it is a fact ● Jun 09 [18:00] eidolon but also a running joke [18:00] schestowitz[TR2] that page explains it, i kept saying that line [18:00] schestowitz[TR2] *seeing [18:01] TR News Daniel Pocock: European Parliament election count 2024 day 1 https://danielpocock.com/european-parliament-election-count-2024-day-1/ [18:01] TR Bot European Parliament election count 2024 day 1 [18:02] TR News Is Your Driving Being Secretly Scored? https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/09/technology/driver-scores-insurance-data-apps.html [18:02] TR Bot Is Your Driving Being Secretly Scored? - The New York Times [18:03] TR News "Bored with the default Linux terminal? Try these exciting alternatives." https://www.howtogeek.com/best-default-linux-terminal-alternatives/ [18:03] TR Bot Your Default Linux Terminal Emulator Is Dull, So Take These Alternatives for a Spin [18:04] TR News "The upcoming release also promises support for Multitrack Video streaming and support for Enhanced RTMP/FLV multi-track audio and video." https://9to5linux.com/obs-studio-30-2-promises-nvenc-av1-and-shared-texture-support-on-linux [18:04] TR Bot Studio 30.2 Promises NVENC AV1 and Shared Texture Support on Linux - 9to5Linux [18:05] TR News "There's one other just for Windows, and multiple issues in VGPU Software too." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/06/nvidia-reveal-new-security-issues-in-their-gpu-drivers-for-june-2024/ [18:05] TR Bot reveal new security issues in their GPU drivers for June 2024 | GamingOnLinux [18:06] admfubar just ass water... https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2024/06/alaska-landslide-tsunamis-cruise-ships/678638/ [18:06] TR Bot Cruise Ships Arent Ready for Instant Tsunamis - The Atlantic [18:12] admfubar :)) should have been "just add water" [18:12] admfubar :P [18:14] psydroid3 :) [18:15] *psydroid3 hands admfubar a toilet bowl [18:16] admfubar couild use that.. my insides are in high gear these days [18:17] schestowitz[TR2] :)) should have been "just add water" [18:17] schestowitz[TR2] ask ryan's landlord, mr. ceo [18:18] admfubar i try not to ask him anything [18:19] schestowitz[TR2] :D [18:19] schestowitz[TR2] he went on holiday [18:19] schestowitz[TR2] in iindia [18:19] schestowitz[TR2] away ferom a harsh realitty [18:19] schestowitz[TR2] while tenants ellope [18:19] schestowitz[TR2] *elope [18:23] admfubar absentee landlords.. those arent allowed in the major city i live near [18:24] TR News Techrights In 2 years Techrights Too Will Turn 20 https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/In_2_years_Techrights_Too_Will_Turn_20.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/In_2_years_Techrights_Too_Will_Turn_20.gmi [18:24] TR Bot Techrights In 2 years Techrights Too Will Turn 20 [18:34] admfubar m$ bug-a-boo https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/cyber-security/office-2007-infosec-researcher-recalls-panic-after-major-bug-announcement-turned-out-to-be-a-false-positive [18:34] TR Bot Office 2007 infosec researcher recalls panic after major bug announcement turned out to be a false positive | Tom's Hardware [18:37] schestowitz[TR2] absentee landlords.. those arent allowed in the major city i live near [18:37] schestowitz[TR2] how are they defined? [18:37] schestowitz[TR2] how distant [18:37] schestowitz[TR2] and how long period of absence? [18:38] admfubar they dont live in the city where the property is, or there isnt a representative that lives withing the city limits [18:42] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/art-6 [18:42] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Art [18:46] TR News Techrights Vista 11 is Rotting in The Netherlands https://techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Vista_11_is_Rotting_in_The_Netherlands.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/06/09/Vista_11_is_Rotting_in_The_Netherlands.gmi [18:46] TR Bot Techrights Vista 11 is Rotting in The Netherlands [18:53] TR News (NEW): Almost Grumpy https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Almost_Grumpy.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/06/09/Almost_Grumpy.gmi [18:53] TR Bot Tux Machines Almost Grumpy [18:56] admfubar a book??!! sounds like someone needs money!.. https://news.slashdot.org/story/24/06/09/1742202/bill-gates-taking-pre-orders-for-source-code-a-memoir-of-his-early-years [18:56] TR Bot Bill Gates Taking Pre-Orders For 'Source Code', a Memoir of His Early Years - Slashdot [18:56] admfubar https://tech.slashdot.org/story/24/06/08/2035253/how-google-will-distribute-100-million-to-canadas-news-companies?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed [18:56] TR Bot How Google Will Distribute $100 Million to Canada's News Companies - Slashdot [18:57] admfubar https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=24/06/08/1727205&from=rss [18:57] TR Bot FBI Unveils 7,000 Decryption Keys to Aid Lockbit Victims - SoylentNews [18:57] schestowitz[TR2] Windows. [18:57] schestowitz[TR2] so they do not dsolve thee underlying issue [18:57] MinceR he should have called it Dumpster Code [18:58] schestowitz[TR2] Slashdot runing ads for Bill again [18:58] schestowitz[TR2] nothing has immproved [18:58] schestowitz[TR2] maybe they also want to do PR services for Jeffrey Epstein] [18:58] schestowitz[TR2] if the pricee is right ● Jun 09 [19:02] TR News Women often outlive men but in poorer health https://www.dw.com/en/women-often-outlive-men-but-in-poorer-health/a-69214745 [19:02] TR Bot often outlive men but in poorer health DW 05/30/2024 [19:03] TR News Heat exhaustion or heat stroke https://www.dw.com/en/heat-exhaustion-or-heat-stroke-what-to-do-in-an-emergency/a-66043116 [19:03] TR Bot exhaustion or heat stroke: What to do in an emergency DW 05/30/2024 [19:04] TR News Europol is still not cracking down on WINDOWS https://www.dw.com/en/europol-hits-malware-network-in-major-cybercrime-operation/a-69220251 [19:04] TR Bot hits malware network in major cybercrime operation DW 05/30/2024 [19:04] admfubar https://yro.slashdot.org/story/24/06/08/2123202/jury-finds-autonomy-founder-mike-lynch-not-guilty-of-defrauding-hp [19:04] TR Bot Jury Finds Autonomy Founder Mike Lynch Not Guilty of Defrauding HP - Slashdot [19:06] admfubar https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/24/06/09/0328246/dutch-police-test-ai-powered-robot-dog-to-raid-drug-labs [19:06] TR Bot Dutch Police Test AI-Powered Robot Dog to Raid Drug Labs - Slashdot [19:06] schestowitz[TR2] > an we start with the real story of what happened at Sirius when the CEO [19:06] schestowitz[TR2] > pushed you out and locked you out? [19:06] schestowitz[TR2] > [19:06] schestowitz[TR2] > eek! :) no idea. i was only a contractor, on-demand and [19:06] schestowitz[TR2] > very sporadic. [19:06] schestowitz[TR2] > [19:06] schestowitz[TR2] > > http://techrights.org/wiki/Crimes_of_Sirius_Open_Source/ [19:06] schestowitz[TR2] > [19:06] schestowitz[TR2] > [19:06] schestowitz[TR2] > literally the first time ever i have seen this! [19:06] schestowitz[TR2] > [19:06] schestowitz[TR2] > [19:06] schestowitz[TR2] > > Maybe we can revisit what happened in 2011. That's when the pension [19:06] schestowitz[TR2] > fraud seems to have started. [19:06] TR Bot Crimes of Sirius Open Source [19:10] admfubar https://slashdot.org/story/24/06/09/0126246/us-justice-department-indicts-creators-of-bitcoin-anonymizing-samouri-wallet [19:10] TR Bot US Justice Department Indicts Creators of Bitcoin-Anonymizing 'Samouri' Wallet - Slashdot [19:13] TR News Eurozone inflation up more than expected in May https://www.dw.com/en/eurozone-inflation-up-more-than-expected-in-may/a-69232099 [19:13] TR Bot inflation up more than expected in May DW 05/31/2024 [19:14] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/sympathy-2 [19:14] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Sympathy [19:16] admfubar https://www.wired.com/story/the-age-of-the-drone-police-is-here/ [19:16] TR Bot Age of the Drone Police Is Here | WIRED [19:21] eidolon \o/ [19:23] *parsifal has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:26] admfubar from the "age of Aquarius" to the "age of the drone police" [19:28] admfubar i bet it doesn't cost a quarter... https://www.tomshardware.com/3d-printing/worlds-first-chip-based-3d-printer-is-smaller-than-a-coin-benefits-from-having-no-moving-parts [19:28] TR Bot World's first chip-based 3D printer is smaller than a coin benefits from having no moving parts | Tom's Hardware [19:30] admfubar :)) https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/hp-bricks-probook-laptops-with-bad-bios-%E2%80%94-many-users-face-black-screen-after-windows-includes-firmware-in-automatic-updates.3846642/ [19:30] TR Bot News - HP bricks ProBook laptops with bad BIOS many users face black screen after Windows includes firmware in automatic updates | Tom's Hardware Forum ● Jun 09 [20:40] admfubar https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/09/rto_quit_study/ [20:40] TR Bot Study finds 1/4 of bosses hoped RTO would make staff quit The Register [20:52] psydruid Brick 'Em All [20:54] psydruid Must create backdoors in the Backdoors ● Jun 09 [21:09] *EnGeit has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:10] *SomeGoat (~SomeGoat@r9ruxqydtdctn.irc) has joined #techrights [21:10] admfubar there's a fungus amung us... :P [21:10] admfubar https://arstechnica.com/?p=2029953 [21:10] TR Bot People are seizing, being intubated after eating microdose chocolates | Ars Technica [21:11] MinceR (cat) https://imgur.com/gallery/catroy-fDK6ZGk [21:11] TR Bot - Album on Imgur [21:13] admfubar https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2024/06/new-steam-deck-competitor-lets-you-easily-swap-in-more-ram-storage/ [21:13] TR Bot New Steam Deck competitor lets you easily swap in more RAM, storage | Ars Technica [21:14] admfubar more like a techrights detractor [21:22] eidolon Who knows what bullshit is in those chocolates? :D [21:24] eidolon They mentioned this product by name in a recent nytimes article about nuisance weed shops. [21:24] eidolon unlicensed [21:24] eidolon https://archive.is/cUoyR [21:24] TR Bot A Neighborhood Battles Illegal Weed Shops: Weve Been Begging for Help - The New York Times [21:25] admfubar https://arstechnica.com/?p=2029870 [21:25] TR Bot New camera design can ID threats faster, using less memory | Ars Technica [21:26] admfubar prolly the mushrooms are contaminated with another fungus.. there are a few that will kill you outright, some will will take time, and a lot that will make you wish you were dead. [21:34] eidolon 'we reached out to diamondshruumz, but as of publication, they remain mushmouthed' [21:34] eidolon it could be any number of chemical analogues or wotsits [21:37] eidolon without verifying a species of mushroom unequivocally [21:37] eidolon ye treading on very organ-liquefying grounds [21:42] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:43] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [21:45] *psydroid3 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) [21:46] *IsambardPrince (~isambardprince@n6qmteudyf4cn.irc) has joined #techrights [21:50] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:51] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [21:59] IsambardPrince [12:23] absentee landlords.. those arent allowed in the major city i live near [21:59] IsambardPrince Be glad. [21:59] IsambardPrince I'm hoping this anti-slumlord bill gets signed before my lease renews so I can fight back if this guy tries to fuck me. ● Jun 09 [22:00] IsambardPrince It should not take going to the city after a week with no toilets, for an entire building, to get that resolved. [22:00] IsambardPrince I gave him a week. Which is probably 2-3x what it should have taken to get an actual plumber out here and just pony up the dough and fix the thing. [22:01] IsambardPrince It was working again the day after the city threatened him. [22:01] IsambardPrince The guy should just buckle up and fix things that are obviously going to get him pinched. [22:02] IsambardPrince You can hide mold in the walls, you can hide electrical problems. [22:02] IsambardPrince You're not going to hide a sewage pump breakdown. [22:06] IsambardPrince schestowitz[TR2]: The anti-homeless architecture is something that didn't even exist when Carpenter did They Live. [22:06] IsambardPrince It's like "What about Lego blocks? We all know how much stepping on one hurts. Why don't we turn the bus benches into big lego blocks. And the areas around the supermarket windows can be like giant butt plugs, only spikier and metal. [22:07] IsambardPrince That's how the rich view the poor. "Like pigeons crapping on MY sidewalk." [22:11] admfubar https://hackaday.com/2024/06/09/what-if/ [22:11] TR Bot If The Matrix Was Made In The 1950s? | Hackaday [22:14] *jacobk (~quassel@haujs6zcuukhy.irc) has joined #techrights [22:22] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [22:23] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [22:25] admfubar https://www.rawstory.com/inside-the-global-orange-juice-crisis/ [22:25] TR Bot Inside the global orange juice crisis - Raw Story [22:35] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:37] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [22:59] IsambardPrince They did the same thing with coffee in the 1970s you know. [22:59] IsambardPrince Lester R. Brown, the UN toady, wrote that very soon nobody would have any coffee. [22:59] IsambardPrince I'm drinking some right now. [22:59] IsambardPrince Like everything else, coffee prices fluctuate. [22:59] IsambardPrince Bad crop years happen, the next year they have so much of the stuff they don't know what to do with it. ● Jun 09 [23:00] IsambardPrince That's how things go. [23:00] IsambardPrince Several years with bad crop yields bedeviled the Romans. [23:00] IsambardPrince I wonder what would have happened if the Romans had the UN and the Internet going on about a climate scam? [23:01] IsambardPrince The Kingdom/Republic/Empire endured longer than any modern country today. [23:02] IsambardPrince But they had some years with mismanagement, bad leadership, and crop failures, before anyone was claiming there was "global warming". [23:02] IsambardPrince In fact, the same thing happened to the Roman wheat crops as coffee in the 1970s, basically. [23:02] IsambardPrince It was a frost and coffee rust that did in the coffee for a while. [23:02] IsambardPrince Bad management (burning the stockpiles that would have stabilized supply during low production years). [23:02] psydruid https://sgmlegalspain.com/spain-cheap-to-own-a-car/ [23:02] TR Bot Spain, Cheap to Own a Car? | SGM Abogados [23:03] psydruid insane [23:03] IsambardPrince The Romans squandered the grain stores to pay for spectacles. [23:03] IsambardPrince And then a frost came and wiped out the wheat crops. [23:03] *jacobk has quit (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.) [23:04] psydruid have a job just to be able to "own" a car [23:04] IsambardPrince You can endure a lot, but bad leadership that squanders everything you socked away during boom years and then wastes what is left, you can't sink that. [23:04] IsambardPrince And that's what the US government is doing to us today. [23:04] psydruid and pay 1000 a month for the privilege [23:05] IsambardPrince The "War in Gaza" is the 7th priority of US voters under 40. [23:05] IsambardPrince It ranks as the top issue in the election with only 3% of that group. [23:05] IsambardPrince The first six issues are all things Biden scores badly on. [23:05] IsambardPrince Some take on the economy. [23:05] IsambardPrince Inflation is rough, it's a bad time to look for work, my housing costs too much, gas prices.....healthcare costs a lot of money. [23:05] IsambardPrince He's not doing well on any of that. [23:07] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2024/05/16/hilarious-ways-people-said-i-quit-funny-job-exit-stories/ [23:07] TR Bot 40 Hilarious Ways People Said "I Quit" That Are Instant Classics [23:18] IsambardPrince [17:04] and pay 1000 a month for the privilege [23:18] IsambardPrince They Live [23:18] IsambardPrince "The plan is to suck Earth dry "like a third world country" and then ditch it, and they have humans going along with it because as long as they don't fight and agree to work for the aliens, "their bank account gets bigger, they get a nicer car, a better house"." [23:19] IsambardPrince "Most of the cops are human collaborators. They don't even try to make any arrests, they just kill everyone." [23:20] IsambardPrince schestowitz[TR2]: So the Left and the Right have become the same thing. [23:21] IsambardPrince The far-right "Nazis, Aryan Brotherhood, Ku Klux Klan" believe in the Zionist Occupation Government theory, and the Left "American Communists, Socialists, some Democrats, Lobster" also believe this. [23:21] IsambardPrince They both want another holocaust. [23:22] IsambardPrince I didn't get my Mastodon taken down like Lobster did, under Germany's Nazi Control Laws. I got it taken down for being Pro-Second Amendment (US Constitution) on a platform of leftist crazies and incels, mostly in Europe. [23:23] IsambardPrince As far as I know, there's no law in Europe that requires taking down someone's social media account for supporting the US Constitution. [23:23] IsambardPrince They just don't like Americans very much because they're idiots who don't know how to live. [23:23] IsambardPrince They spent years putting these people like von der Slaven in charge of the EU. [23:24] IsambardPrince And now they realize that her coalition with leftist and center-left parties was a disaster. [23:24] IsambardPrince And the climate scam is eroding their living standard by about 10% per year to appease China. [23:24] IsambardPrince So the way I understand it, now they want a coalition of center-right, far-right, and "Euroskeptic" parties. [23:25] IsambardPrince Because they've realized that they've made themselves the biggest fools in the world by supporing the EU. [23:25] IsambardPrince Which is as retarded and malicious as the United Nations, only its decisions matter (to the region). [23:26] IsambardPrince There's not much of a democratic process at the federal level in the US. [23:26] IsambardPrince If we had UK style referendums, we would back out of NAFTA/USMCA as soon as the votes were counted. [23:27] IsambardPrince And I'd be one of the people voting to leave. [23:27] IsambardPrince The only ones who don't want the Pre-NAFTA environment are the large banks and companies like Walmart. [23:28] IsambardPrince The US shut down almost all of its factories and made millions unemployable. [23:28] IsambardPrince And the only thing we export through NAFTA/USMCA are agriculture that's all been subsidized by the federal government, and "financial services". [23:28] IsambardPrince It has not improved the living standard at all. [23:28] IsambardPrince At first it did. [23:28] IsambardPrince It took several years for things to adjust. [23:29] IsambardPrince At the beginning, it was like snorting some crack cocaine. [23:29] IsambardPrince Because all this cheap shit started flooding the US markets, but most people here were still employed and had savings, or at least equity in their house. [23:29] MinceR yeah, it's all the leftists' fault that the EPP assisted one of its member parties, fidesz-mpsz, in turning hungary into a dictatorship [23:30] MinceR and that EU citizens are such idiots that they keep voting for fascists even after seeing how that turned out [23:30] IsambardPrince Then they lost their good jobs and took jobs that paid half as much as before, but they "tapped the equity" to make up for that, and that went on for some years. Then when the equity was tapped and they just had a second mortgage to pay and the money was gone, they started loading up their credit cards. [23:30] IsambardPrince And when those were tapped out, the Republicans made it so most people can't file bankruptcy and walk away from the second mortgages and credit cards. [23:30] MinceR even romania has higher GDP (PPP) per capita than hungary now, according to eurostat [23:30] MinceR and a higher minimum wage [23:31] MinceR in bulgaria, people consume more per capita than in hungary [23:31] MinceR this is the great "rightist" success story that the EU citizens want more of. [23:31] IsambardPrince [17:29] yeah, it's all the leftists' fault that the EPP assisted one of its member parties, fidesz-mpsz, in turning hungary into a dictatorship [23:31] IsambardPrince [17:30] and that EU citizens are such idiots that they keep voting for fascists even after seeing how that turned out [23:31] IsambardPrince You're the Mexico of Europe. [23:31] IsambardPrince Nobody cares. Keep sending them cheap shit. [23:31] IsambardPrince Stop bitching. [23:31] IsambardPrince :) [23:31] IsambardPrince Basically... [23:31] MinceR hungary used to be the leader in the region [23:32] MinceR and now it's a ruin [23:32] IsambardPrince Yeah, Mexico was better before NAFTA/USMCA, or Ronald Reagan. What goes on in the US affects Mexico more than elections in Mexico do. [23:32] IsambardPrince Because it's a third world country in our backyard. [23:32] IsambardPrince A source of drugs, and scabs to defeat the United Auto Workers. [23:33] IsambardPrince So US politics and trade deals have left Mexicans dodging bullets in the literal drug wars. [23:33] MinceR hungary was primarily ruined by its own citizens [23:33] MinceR and the rest of the EPP (outside fidesz-mpsz), despite allegedly being "democrats", helped them [23:34] IsambardPrince MinceR: I'm not opposed to Mexicans. I am not racist against them at all. I'm just speaking honestly about how our system uses the situation down there. [23:34] IsambardPrince I would love to see them running their own country, but it won't ever happen. [23:34] IsambardPrince The second it did, the CIA would have something to say about it. [23:34] MinceR fascism is still on the rise in the EU [23:35] MinceR it's going to destroy every country around here [23:35] IsambardPrince The best thing that could happen to the EU would be its complete and utter dismantling. [23:35] IsambardPrince Mostly for the people who live under it and pay taxes to it and have to live under laws that their own government didn't pass. [23:35] MinceR not really, it would just help the fascists turn the former member states into dictatorships more quickly [23:43] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:46] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [23:47] psydruid wow, Hungary has been utterly destroyed from the inside out [23:48] psydruid having a lower GDP per capita than Romania and Bulgaria is quite an achievement [23:48] MinceR we don't have a lower GDP (PPP) per capita than bulgaria yet [23:49] MinceR just lower consumption per capita [23:49] MinceR but we're getting there [23:49] psydruid and I thought Hungary was on the level of Poland and Czechia [23:50] psydruid at least that's what it looked like when I visited Budapest in 2017 [23:50] MinceR it used to be [23:51] MinceR and there was an efford to bring poland down to this level, but it failed