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oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: I would think it someone replicating the old single pixel flash item for a forever cookie. | Jul 09 00:00 |
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*schestowitz works with 5 laptops at the moment (not the usual, took Rianne's) | Jul 09 00:16 | |
schestowitz | oiaohm: takeaway makes sense | Jul 09 00:16 |
schestowitz | we were thinking just that | Jul 09 00:16 |
schestowitz | the whole point is, they want to make use of dining area | Jul 09 00:16 |
schestowitz | but people lack the desire | Jul 09 00:17 |
schestowitz | I guess some things just aren't coming back soon, if ever... | Jul 09 00:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | Some restaurants in Waukegan appear to be giving up and putting up a tent outside. | Jul 09 00:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's certainly better than having an air conditioner recycling the virus all over the restaurant. | Jul 09 00:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Looking like 60,000 today. | Jul 09 00:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | Another record. | Jul 09 00:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | Last month this was more than three entire days worth of new cases. | Jul 09 00:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | This is a complete disaster. | Jul 09 00:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://forums.lanik.us/viewtopic.php?p=155548#p155548 | Jul 09 00:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lanik.us | reddit.com - EasyList Forum | Jul 09 00:47 | |
DaemonFC[m] | Trying to get this in EasyPrivacy or Easylist so they roll out a block on the whole domain to everyone using those. | Jul 09 00:48 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: past 60k now | Jul 09 00:55 |
schestowitz | and leaving WHO at this time would be tactless | Jul 09 00:55 |
schestowitz | as it looks rather obvious a distraction | Jul 09 00:56 |
schestowitz | or rejection of reality | Jul 09 00:56 |
schestowitz | california now edging 10k a day | Jul 09 00:56 |
schestowitz | most states worse off the the whole of the UK | Jul 09 00:56 |
schestowitz | looks like all states reported | Jul 09 00:57 |
schestowitz | but they can still amend, there's an hour left | Jul 09 00:57 |
schestowitz | for cutoff anyway | Jul 09 00:57 |
schestowitz | Ariadne: do tuxmachines and schestowitz not federate ok or does viera not manage to reach the network? I noticed that my updates go through, viera is on freenode, but no updates appear in IRC | Jul 09 01:06 |
schestowitz | This issue started some time between 8 hours ago and now | Jul 09 01:07 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: +61,475 | Jul 09 01:15 |
schestowitz | https://www.popsci.com/twitter-chronological-feed/ | Jul 09 01:19 |
schestowitz | " | Jul 09 01:19 |
schestowitz | Since 2016, following someone on Twitter has been an unexpectedly complicated affair. What was previously a reverse-chronological feed of every tweet, picture, gif, threat, misguided political opinion, or dad joke became algorithm-driven chaos designed to steer you toward tweets that would maximize engagement. Features like “Tweets you may have missed” and random tweets liked by another account you follow would show up in the | Jul 09 01:19 |
schestowitz | stream. | Jul 09 01:19 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.popsci.com | Twitter will let you see your feed in chronological order again—here's how and why | Popular Science | Jul 09 01:19 | |
schestowitz | It wasn’t an uncommon move at the time—Facebook and even Instagram shifted from their once-orderly ways. The algorithms had taken over social media, Skynet style. | Jul 09 01:19 |
schestowitz | Now, in 2018, Twitter is letting users get back to a purely chronological timeline without all of the extra stuff and reorganization injected into it. | Jul 09 01:19 |
schestowitz | To go back to the pre-2016 era, open up your Twitter app or go to twitter.com, then go to Settings and Privacy > Content Preferences > and turn off the toggle switch at the top. | Jul 09 01:19 |
schestowitz | " | Jul 09 01:19 |
schestowitz | No fix for search results | Jul 09 01:19 |
schestowitz | Twitter is now worthless | Jul 09 01:19 |
schestowitz | such a basic thing -- no longer possible | Jul 09 01:19 |
CrystalMath | i use nitter.net | Jul 09 01:28 |
CrystalMath | to browse twitter | Jul 09 01:28 |
schestowitz | Ubuntu and Robotics | Jul 09 01:29 |
schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139671 | Jul 09 01:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu and Robotics | Tux Machines | Jul 09 01:29 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Jul 09 01:29 |
schestowitz | Mozilla: Firefox Nightly, JS, Security and Rust http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139670 | Jul 09 01:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla: Firefox Nightly, JS, Security and Rust | Tux Machines | Jul 09 01:29 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Jul 09 01:29 |
schestowitz | Marius Nestor on Getting Things GNOME http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139601#comment-25727 | Jul 09 01:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Getting Things GNOME To-Do App Is Back with a New Major Release, Here’s What’s New | Tux Machines | Jul 09 01:29 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Jul 09 01:29 |
schestowitz | The Linux Foundation's Response to Open Usage Commons http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139667#comment-25726 | Jul 09 01:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Usage Commons | Tux Machines | Jul 09 01:30 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Jul 09 01:30 |
schestowitz | CutiePi Sidekick mode: Linux tablet is also a controller for external displays http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139317#comment-25723 | Jul 09 01:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CutiePi tablet based on Raspberry Pi CM3+ starts at $169 | Tux Machines | Jul 09 01:30 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Jul 09 01:30 |
schestowitz | 4 Useful Extensions to Make GNOME Desktop Easier to Use | Jul 09 01:30 |
schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139669 | Jul 09 01:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 Useful Extensions to Make GNOME Desktop Easier to Use | Tux Machines | Jul 09 01:30 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Jul 09 01:30 |
schestowitz | today's howtos | Jul 09 01:30 |
schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139668 | Jul 09 01:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jul 09 01:30 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Jul 09 01:30 |
schestowitz | #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139666 | Jul 09 01:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jul 09 01:30 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Jul 09 01:30 |
schestowitz | Why IBM doesnât agree with Googleâs Open Usage Commons http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139667#comment-25721 | Jul 09 01:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Usage Commons | Tux Machines | Jul 09 01:30 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Jul 09 01:30 |
schestowitz | Open Usage Commons | Jul 09 01:30 |
schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139667 | Jul 09 01:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Usage Commons | Tux Machines | Jul 09 01:30 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Jul 09 01:30 |
schestowitz | Ariadne: maybe it's just a federation issue, as I see the accounts are both effected and the viera bot seems to be online anyway. I think we had a similar scenario in the past. | Jul 09 01:30 |
CrystalMath | btw schestowitz you should link to nitter.net instead of twitter | Jul 09 01:32 |
CrystalMath | nitter.net runs free software | Jul 09 01:32 |
CrystalMath | twitter.com could get people to execute non-free javascript | Jul 09 01:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Jul 09 01:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Looks like that fingerprinter I found thanks to Firefox asking me to turn on DRM is going into the blocklist that Brave uses. | Jul 09 01:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | Also, EasyPrivacy shortly. | Jul 09 01:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | Splat. | Jul 09 01:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | It seems that Reddit is getting other domains that are just random letters and then calling out to them with a first party Javascript. | Jul 09 01:40 |
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DaemonFC[m] | They're hiding behind a domain registration proxy in Panama. | Jul 09 01:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://smitop.com/post/reddit-whiteops/ | Jul 09 01:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-smitop.com | Reddit's website uses DRM for fingerprinting | Jul 09 01:43 | |
MinceR | that's condé nasty | Jul 09 01:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | "Back to the DRM issue, it appears that the script is checking what DRM solutions are available, but not actually using them. However, just checking is enough to trigger Firefox into displaying the DRM popup. Specfically, it looks for Widevine, PlayReady, Clearkey, and Adobe Primetime." | Jul 09 01:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://smitop.com/post/whiteops-data/ | Jul 09 01:51 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-smitop.com | Data WhiteOps collects | Jul 09 01:51 | |
DaemonFC[m] | Okay, so now I've added all of this to my filters. | Jul 09 01:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | ||udkcrj.com^ | Jul 09 01:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | ||vprza.com^ | Jul 09 01:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | ||minkatu.com^ | Jul 09 01:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | Technically, blocking the first should block the script that calls the other domains. Since I know of all of these domains, why not add them all and have a higher chance of bricking their script if they load it some other way. | Jul 09 01:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | "Attempts to create an ActiveXObject (only exists in old IE versions), and checks if the created ActiveX object isSandboxed" | Jul 09 01:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | Holy shit the list just goes on and on. | Jul 09 01:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | Well, isSandboxed would indicate that you're on IE 7 or higher on at least Windows Vista. | Jul 09 01:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | Without sandboxing, you're definitely either on XP or the user has manually disabled Protected Mode IE. | Jul 09 01:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | Create an ActiveX Object and not having it in Protected Mode would mean IE 6, 7, or 8 on XP (theoretically up to IE 6 on earlier versions of Windows), or Window Vista with Protected Mode turned off by the user. | Jul 09 01:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | "Attempts to exploit an IE11 vuln!" | Jul 09 02:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Jul 09 02:02 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Open Usage Commons http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139667 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f4d2c471-b4f0-405b-93e3-a46013c3787c] | Jul 09 02:02 | |
DaemonFC[m] | This is the nastiest thing I've ever seen. | Jul 09 02:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | "this evaluates to res://ieframe.dll/acr.js, but only on IE. This string has only one purpose, exploiting the fact that you can put arbitrary HTML in the hash part of the URL and have it get evaluated, I beleive in a privledged context of some sort. This file actually resolves in IE to a internal Windows system file, which is only accessible in JS due to a bug." | Jul 09 02:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | "tries to run VBScript:" | Jul 09 02:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | Uh, okay.... | Jul 09 02:04 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Why IBM doesn’t agree with Google’s Open Usage Commons http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139667#comment-25721 [https://pleroma.site/objects/31852684-878d-4353-812d-7510517202a9] | Jul 09 02:05 | |
DaemonFC[m] | "attempts to detect Brave Browser with window.brave" | Jul 09 02:06 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Uses Brave API to detect if users is on Brave, despite Brave's "anti-fingerprinting". :) | Jul 09 02:06 |
kingoffrance | lol | Jul 09 02:08 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139666 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d6a5b039-af72-4e5d-a245-5c94e522f3f3] | Jul 09 02:09 | |
DaemonFC[m] | "attempts to get the width of the string mmmmmmmmmmlli in all of these fonts: "Ubuntu", "Utopia", "URW Gothic L", "Bitstream Charter", "FreeMono", "DejaVu Sans", "Droid Serif", "Liberation Sans", "Vrinda", "Kartika", "Sylfaen", "CordiaUPC", "Angsana New Bold Italic", "DFKai-SB", "Ebrima", "Lao UI", "Segoe UI Symbol", "Vijaya", "Roboto", "Apple Color Emoji", "Baskerville", "Marker Felt", "Apple Symbols", "Chalkboard", | Jul 09 02:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | "Herculanum", "Skia", "Bahnschrift", "Andalus", "Yu Gothic", "Aldhabi", "Calibri Light"" | Jul 09 02:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | I'm flattered. They check for fonts that are usually on Linux. | Jul 09 02:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Someone worked pretty hard on this. | Jul 09 02:10 |
MinceR | screwing visitors would be the sort of thing people are willing to work pretty hard on | Jul 09 02:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | You can probably figure out what the user had for lunch with this script. | Jul 09 02:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | EFF Panopticlick be like: "Help us prevent tracking! Share on Facebook and Twitter!" | Jul 09 02:13 |
MinceR | :> | Jul 09 02:13 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139668 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b755c1d8-c9a1-481d-be1c-d04ebf3af404] | Jul 09 02:14 | |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: They got caught because they checked for DRM and it's not on by default in Firefox. | Jul 09 02:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | Maybe they'll remove that module so Firefox doesn't alert the user that something is wrong next time. | Jul 09 02:19 |
MinceR | :> | Jul 09 02:20 |
MinceR | or they'll donate enough to mozilla so they enable DRM by default | Jul 09 02:20 |
DaemonFC[m] | Anyway, I told EasyPrivacy about it, so they just burned three domains. | Jul 09 02:20 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 4 Useful Extensions to Make GNOME Desktop Easier to Use http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139669 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ae6093a1-f130-4ce2-b098-89432c5c9f4a] | Jul 09 02:21 | |
kingoffrance | i thought the "big" js libraries and such have "standard addresses" if you want the "latest" version and not host locally...would seem to me such things are supposed to be leaning away from random domains of junk letters | Jul 09 02:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | "there is the string “haha jit go brrrrr”, as part of what appears to be some sort of either test for a JS engine bug or exploit" | Jul 09 02:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | :/ | Jul 09 02:22 |
kingoffrance | i.e. where is the case for anything "legit" where you would have some random letter domain? | Jul 09 02:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | Oh the irony here is that LibreJS would actually block this fucking thing because it's non-trivial and obviously has no License field. | Jul 09 02:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://i.imgur.com/hOt5jqB.jpg | Jul 09 02:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | From my recent experiences on Reddit, I'd say Capitalism has run full circle and is reduced to the Chinese selling face masks and young people posing nudes and setting out a tip jar. | Jul 09 02:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | *posting | Jul 09 02:41 |
MinceR | does the word "capitalism" even have a meaning anymore? | Jul 09 02:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yes, there are people working from home and paying for said nudes. | Jul 09 02:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | Occasionally, they leave home wearing a Chinese face mask to pick up food and toilet paper. | Jul 09 02:44 |
kingoffrance | lol | Jul 09 02:47 |
kingoffrance | yeah i wonder it has been said the first world countries used to mock the others, wed never have some pandemic where everyone'd need masks, why dont those <insert low class job> just go to school and get a real job, etc. | Jul 09 02:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://smitop.com/post/gmail-s-fake-loading-indicator/ | Jul 09 02:48 |
kingoffrance | makes me think the tables are turned in a way | Jul 09 02:48 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-smitop.com | Gmail's fake loading indicator | Jul 09 02:48 | |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Jul 09 02:48 |
kingoffrance | well, you cant go to school and get a real job, cuz the disease | Jul 09 02:49 |
kingoffrance | lol | Jul 09 02:49 |
kingoffrance | and .. buy the damn mask | Jul 09 02:49 |
kingoffrance | cuz capitalism | Jul 09 02:49 |
kingoffrance | lol | Jul 09 02:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | Oh, college for the most part is a scam. | Jul 09 02:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | Unless you're going to be a doctor or something, just go get a job. | Jul 09 02:50 |
kingoffrance | yeah i dont disagree | Jul 09 02:50 |
kingoffrance | just the imagery i suppose | Jul 09 02:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | Otherwise 4/5 end up with more student loans than they can ever pay back and the government hunting them down with the modernized Fugitive Slave Act. | Jul 09 02:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | These universities are like a siren calling you to crash on the rocks, and they go after people who are like 18 and know nothing about anything except that they're being lied to about how important college is, when in most cases, it isn't. | Jul 09 02:52 |
kingoffrance | well i think its also | Jul 09 02:52 |
kingoffrance | education pre-college is deliberately dumbed down | Jul 09 02:52 |
kingoffrance | in the expectation | Jul 09 02:52 |
kingoffrance | if you want a real education | Jul 09 02:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | When they get done with these people, they have $50,000 in student loans racking up 6% interest and they can't get rid of it, and they're flipping hamburgers. | Jul 09 02:52 |
kingoffrance | go to a real college, etc. | Jul 09 02:52 |
kingoffrance | i mean, i think it starts much earlier | Jul 09 02:52 |
kingoffrance | like with the expectation everyone needs a 4 year or whatever | Jul 09 02:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, but everyone goes and studies something entirely pointless. | Jul 09 02:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | Like, Walmart's Electronics department has a lot of psychologists and English majors. | Jul 09 02:53 |
kingoffrance | the high schools etc. seem to try less hard...because you will get that stuff later theoretically | Jul 09 02:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | When I need help getting a TV out to my car, I'll let them know. | Jul 09 02:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | There's just a lot of people around and nothing for them, and god forbid (literally if you're a Catholic) you put a helmet on that soldier. | Jul 09 02:54 |
kingoffrance | or put, another way | Jul 09 02:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | There's a lot of things wrong with sex. Not so much having it as women weaponizing it against men and men being so dumb they wonder how they're working two jobs to pay child support. | Jul 09 02:55 |
kingoffrance | there are advanced hs classes...to get you college credit | Jul 09 02:55 |
kingoffrance | i.e. that seems to be the only reason they exist | Jul 09 02:56 |
kingoffrance | to transfer to a real school | Jul 09 02:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | I think that the way we disarm the "nasty womyn" is to go find it somewhere else or porn or sex robots or something. | Jul 09 02:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | Then when they lose that power they'll realize what they've done. | Jul 09 02:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | My favorite Rick & Morty is a trick question. They're all my favorite. | Jul 09 02:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | The one with the Gazorpozorp planet was a great commentary though. | Jul 09 02:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | They come across a planet where the men are constantly at war with each other while the women keep the species going by living in obscene luxury and spending all day complimenting on each other's clothing while they dump sex robots that can get pregnant down on top of the men. | Jul 09 02:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | Then if it's a boy, they toss it back and if it's a girl, they keep it. | Jul 09 03:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | The relationship my in laws have is kind of, well, beyond fucked up. | Jul 09 03:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | She's trapped her husband with her by forging his name on a bunch of credit cards and then maxing them all out. | Jul 09 03:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | She thought she was going to get another 18 years where he was stuck with her by not taking her pill, but she had a miscarriage. | Jul 09 03:01 |
DaemonFC[m] | So in a few years the kids will have both aged out and then I think her husband will be the one who files for divorce. | Jul 09 03:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | Never underestimate the power of people who should financially be very well off to sabotage themselves and have nothing but a pile of debt anyway. | Jul 09 03:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | They wouldn't know frugality if it bit them on the ass. | Jul 09 03:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | I spend $7 a month on coffee. | Jul 09 03:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | I've worn the same cheap clothes for several years. Even when they're starting to get holes in them. | Jul 09 03:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | I keep my phones and laptops until it won't boot up anymore and then I go see what's on sale. | Jul 09 03:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | Usually fixing them a time or two along the way. | Jul 09 03:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | I was already doing more to save money than the bankruptcy counseling ever mentioned. | Jul 09 03:05 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: CutiePi Sidekick mode: Linux tablet is also a controller for external displays http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139317#comment-25723 [https://pleroma.site/objects/664b7f4b-8c15-4ae6-a684-fd7d9157c64f] | Jul 09 03:06 | |
DaemonFC[m] | The reason I went under was because my ex had me slapped with criminal charges and then ran off with my car. So, forcing me to go into debt to defend myself until I couldn't anymore, and by that time I'll be goddamned if he's going to drive a car I'm responsible for. | Jul 09 03:06 |
kingoffrance | yes, easy come, easy go | Jul 09 03:07 |
kingoffrance | thats nto a value judgement on ppl | Jul 09 03:07 |
kingoffrance | its ppl looking for fast cash seem to blow it | Jul 09 03:07 |
kingoffrance | because they think its so easy | Jul 09 03:07 |
kingoffrance | who cares | Jul 09 03:07 |
kingoffrance | ill just do the same scam again | Jul 09 03:07 |
kingoffrance | etc. | Jul 09 03:07 |
kingoffrance | and ppl looking to screw ppl | Jul 09 03:08 |
kingoffrance | it is perhaps never enough too | Jul 09 03:08 |
kingoffrance | so its not like "saving up for something" | Jul 09 03:08 |
kingoffrance | its like "hole that cant ever be filled" | Jul 09 03:08 |
kingoffrance | thats not to say i dont think the finance stuff is all fucked | Jul 09 03:10 |
kingoffrance | but some ppl seem to not even try, at all, ever | Jul 09 03:10 |
kingoffrance | i guess, if you dont know what you want, you cant save for it | Jul 09 03:11 |
kingoffrance | it does seem a weaponized thing for some ppl: how can i get this person i dont like in debt | Jul 09 03:13 |
kingoffrance | yeah, its kind of bs, if you are thrifty, someone getting you in debt is annoying, but its just a chance to do what you normally do, doesnt screw them up as much as the other person thinks | Jul 09 03:16 |
kingoffrance | i guess i consider it more a reflection of the person who thinks it will "destroy" you or whatever | Jul 09 03:17 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Linux Foundation’s Response to Open Usage Commons http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139667#comment-25726 [https://pleroma.site/objects/669042a5-399d-4e7d-b4d0-19d52492b540] | Jul 09 03:17 | |
kingoffrance | i have a 20 year old car/laptop/etc. if you "ruin" me...that sucks, ill just have to buy the same $50 pos laptop i would normally buy lol | Jul 09 03:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | Pretty much. The Trustee gave up and went to lunch. | Jul 09 03:28 |
kingoffrance | you cant "ruin" cheap ppl | Jul 09 03:30 |
kingoffrance | we just adapt | Jul 09 03:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | I told him it was a 4 year old laptop that came from Best Buy and he gave up on that part. | Jul 09 03:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | Still runs Linux fine. | Jul 09 03:30 |
kingoffrance | lol | Jul 09 03:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | It has no "value" because it would be EOL with Windows 10. | Jul 09 03:30 |
kingoffrance | lol | Jul 09 03:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | Told him I had a Galaxy S8 and that the fingerprint sensor was broken because I had to pry the battery out after a few years and put another one in. | Jul 09 03:31 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Marius Nestor on Getting Things GNOME http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139601#comment-25727 [https://pleroma.site/objects/38460279-45eb-43fa-a221-271b7cb2cd2d] | Jul 09 03:35 | |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mozilla: Firefox Nightly, JS, Security and Rust http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139670 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ad07ac43-acf0-4f6a-94d7-1b2a0631a1c2] | Jul 09 04:26 | |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu and Robotics http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139671 [https://pleroma.site/objects/27d111b7-be9e-4f40-8d01-08699bcdae90] | Jul 09 04:28 | |
schestowitz | Ariadne: seems like a massive, ~5 hour lag between the posts and them caught by viera, so it's definitely still working, just with a huge latency | Jul 09 05:05 |
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Ariadne | sounds like a problem with pleroma.site then | Jul 09 05:16 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: Destination Linux, TLLTS, FLOSS Weekly, Linux Headlines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139672 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a714ceb4-f516-4654-a8b6-e29749b13212] | Jul 09 05:38 | |
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Kernel Raising Compiler Build Requirement To GCC 4.9 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139674 [https://pleroma.site/objects/87bc9b23-e4e3-48c0-9317-80d132ee6d3a] | Jul 09 05:38 | |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Black Ice, BOMBFEST, Albion Online http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139675 [https://pleroma.site/objects/64cda63e-4c30-4a04-8ab9-b23a838ddd06] | Jul 09 05:38 | |
schestowitz | Ariadne: now it has fully caught up | Jul 09 05:38 |
schestowitz | less than a minute ago | Jul 09 05:38 |
schestowitz | like it finally flew like 4 hours in a couple of minutes | Jul 09 05:39 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python Programming http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139676 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1d1041f0-59c8-4df0-a5fd-029d73aed286] | Jul 09 05:46 | |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GNOME 3.36.4 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139677 [https://pleroma.site/objects/90945d36-9986-4a26-ae8d-de01211bdb4c] | Jul 09 05:51 | |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux, Twitter look remove ‘blacklist/whitelist’ from code http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139678 “and even ‘dummy value’.” [https://pleroma.site/objects/c8f131c3-acb6-4116-ad16-c53d496c5ad2] | Jul 09 05:56 | |
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Neptune 6.5 Release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139680 [https://pleroma.site/objects/09710872-070b-47dc-b0aa-d60cc5cc7734] | Jul 09 06:06 | |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: A visual guide to Lens: A new way to see #Kubernetes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139681 #gnu #linux #freesw #containers [https://pleroma.site/objects/b3259773-7e1d-4ee1-9dd1-1a31009a9401] | Jul 09 06:12 | |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: https://smitop.com/post/reddit-whiteops/ | Jul 09 06:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-smitop.com | Reddit's website uses DRM for fingerprinting | Jul 09 06:21 | |
schestowitz | just caught up with this | Jul 09 06:21 |
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DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Innovative use for DRM. | Jul 09 07:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | This script is so complex that it could be written by government spooks or something. | Jul 09 07:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's bad. | Jul 09 07:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | The funniest part, by far, is that there was a sandbox escape in IE 11 that could escape into shell code and Microsoft never fixed it. It's there today. They still say "Protected Mode". | Jul 09 07:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | This isn't even a zero day, it's been there for years in the open, never fixed. | Jul 09 07:45 |
kingoffrance | well someone ll say im just being snarky but https://www.whiteops.com/company/about at some point you can have people or artifical persons : pick one | Jul 09 07:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.whiteops.com | About Us | White Ops | Jul 09 07:52 | |
kingoffrance | i guess, it just seems kinda surreal to see all the human t-shirts | Jul 09 07:52 |
kingoffrance | and in the same breath | Jul 09 07:52 |
kingoffrance | we protect the largets corps | Jul 09 07:52 |
kingoffrance | with no sense of irony | Jul 09 07:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://github.com/easylist/easylist/commit/c6a46d680f82b7a9b050766c470803614043f143#diff-a884d8976ab3b8de69eda8da9241b81b | Jul 09 07:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-M: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23775886 (Reported) · easylist/easylist@c6a46d6 · GitHub | Jul 09 07:55 | |
kingoffrance | i know its just marketing but surreal | Jul 09 07:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://github.com/easylist/easylist/commit/492f24a937f57b019cdf4f87f22e1e62328adfe6#diff-a884d8976ab3b8de69eda8da9241b81b | Jul 09 07:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A: https://smitop.com/post/whiteops-data/ (Further fingerprinting dom… · easylist/easylist@492f24a · GitHub | Jul 09 07:55 | |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: That should be pushed out to users shortly and the Reddit fingerprinter will stop working for anyone who has EasyPrivacy. | Jul 09 07:56 |
kingoffrance | the terminator bots are going to have an easy target all the people wearing "human" shirts | Jul 09 07:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | It breaks all three domains it's known to be using. | Jul 09 07:56 |
kingoffrance | they can pattern match that | Jul 09 07:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | They claim it's to prevent fraud from bots. | Jul 09 07:59 |
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kingoffrance | i assume e.g. reddit you need an account anyways to post? | Jul 09 08:01 |
kingoffrance | i mean, e.g. gmail you need a phone or some other id to get a free email nowadays | Jul 09 08:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | Ad fraud. They're probably using it to verify that they're not running a bot farm to take click pennies from their advertising partners. | Jul 09 08:07 |
kingoffrance | ok, that makes more sense than "not showing ads to bots" | Jul 09 08:08 |
kingoffrance | its all in the marketing... | Jul 09 08:09 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: https://www.propublica.org/article/one-federal-agency-was-suing-him-for-fraud-another-paid-his-company-millions-for-masks | Jul 09 08:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | One Federal Agency Was Suing Him for Fraud. Another Paid His Company Millions for Masks. — ProPublica | Jul 09 08:20 | |
schestowitz | and also new: https://www.propublica.org/article/a-spike-in-people-dying-at-home-suggests-coronavirus-deaths-in-houston-may-be-higher-than-reported | Jul 09 08:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | A Spike in People Dying at Home Suggests Coronavirus Deaths in Houston May Be Higher Than Reported — ProPublica | Jul 09 08:20 | |
schestowitz | the latter link may be of more use, it's from hours ago | Jul 09 08:21 |
schestowitz | also new: https://truthout.org/articles/fauci-says-trumps-focus-on-covid-deaths-is-false-narrative-to-take-comfort-in/ | Jul 09 08:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Fauci Says Trump’s Focus on COVID Deaths is “False Narrative to Take Comfort In" | Jul 09 08:21 | |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: just boycott reddit | Jul 09 08:22 |
schestowitz | job done | Jul 09 08:23 |
schestowitz | they became proprietary some eyars ago | Jul 09 08:23 |
schestowitz | that's when I deleted all my reddit rss feed, that I had used to keep an eye on some things | Jul 09 08:23 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I have no idea why some sites still suggest Apache OpenOffice. | Jul 09 09:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | It hasn't had anything but bug fixes since 2014 and it left some of them open for years. | Jul 09 09:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | They made one release with known CVEs and then deleted the minuted from the Apache Board meeting after publishing them showing that they were aware of the CVEs and pressed on with the release, leaving them unfixed for another 9 months. | Jul 09 09:10 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 9/7/2020: Google’s Open Usage Commons, GNOME 3.36.4, Neptune 6.5 http://techrights.org/2020/07/09/open-usage-commons/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/c354f00e-90ff-49d3-b54e-878b76a32400] | Jul 09 09:10 | |
DaemonFC[m] | I love running rotting software where the board censors their minutes about what a disaster it is! | Jul 09 09:11 |
schestowitz | maybe they reuse old article templates do their faux journalism | Jul 09 09:11 |
schestowitz | and they find old lists with OOo | Jul 09 09:11 |
schestowitz | or OOOo (Oracle) | Jul 09 09:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | OOops. | Jul 09 09:12 |
schestowitz | MSFT has just censored another project in #github and the #censorship itself is unlawful. #deletegithub before it deleted YOU! | Jul 09 09:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | Easylist is on github now. | Jul 09 09:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's smart. We already have people who are claiming ad blocking violates the DMCA. | Jul 09 09:13 |
schestowitz | good luck with that | Jul 09 09:31 |
schestowitz | I saw no evidence of Microsoft challenging such dmca takedown demands | Jul 09 09:31 |
schestowitz | google sometimes does, but not anymore afaik as it does not scale financially | Jul 09 09:32 |
kingoffrance | thats troubling...i would think oo would be a huge project and not be in same mad crazed feature rush | Jul 09 09:48 |
kingoffrance | or does ms keep changing formats every month they have to try to keep up | Jul 09 09:49 |
kingoffrance | it doesnt make any sense to me theyd be in a rush | Jul 09 09:51 |
kingoffrance | maybe they have some web/cloud integration | Jul 09 09:53 |
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schestowitz | http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/07/wednesday-whimsies.html | Jul 09 10:49 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Wednesday Whimsies - The IPKat | Jul 09 10:49 | |
schestowitz | " | Jul 09 10:49 |
schestowitz | University College Dublin has announced a Microsoft Newman Fellowship in Digital Policy in the School of Information and Communication Studies focusing on developing an approach to digital policy, which balances innovation and end-user protection. The application deadline is 30 July 2020. | Jul 09 10:49 |
schestowitz | A position at the University of Oslo as a Postdoctoral Research Fellowship in the ERC project "CREATIVE IPR - History of Intellectual Property Rights in the Creative Industries" is now open for applications by 1 September 2020. | Jul 09 10:49 |
schestowitz | Applications are open until 15 September 2020 for a researcher at the University of Antwerp to look at the application of privacy and non-discrimination principles to the use of artificial intelligence technologies by taxation authorities. | Jul 09 10:49 |
schestowitz | " | Jul 09 10:49 |
schestowitz | Microsoft | Jul 09 10:49 |
schestowitz | corrupting academia | Jul 09 10:49 |
schestowitz | Google does the same, but... | Jul 09 10:49 |
psydread | at my university they even have some lab ... | Jul 09 11:59 |
psydread | https://www.tudelft.nl/en/2019/tu-delft/dutch-king-opens-microsoft-quantum-lab-on-tu-delft-campus/ | Jul 09 11:59 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ https://www.tudelft.nl/en/2019/tu-delft/dutch-king-opens-microsoft-quantum-lab-on-tu-delft-campus/ ) | Jul 09 11:59 | |
psydread | they want to port Windows to run on that? | Jul 09 12:00 |
MinceR | probably not | Jul 09 12:02 |
MinceR | they have an excuse | Jul 09 12:03 |
MinceR | so it's just a plain PR stunt | Jul 09 12:03 |
MinceR | they shovel some of their ill-gotten money into a random university and pose as the bleeding edge of technology on top of it | Jul 09 12:03 |
MinceR | maybe they also get to force some of their atrocious products on unsuspecting victims at the same university elsewhere | Jul 09 12:04 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/social-control.png | Jul 09 12:15 |
schestowitz | psydread: he did the same for EPO | Jul 09 12:15 |
schestowitz | and its corrupt thug | Jul 09 12:15 |
schestowitz | in 2018 | Jul 09 12:15 |
schestowitz | enough of those 'royalty' pricks | Jul 09 12:16 |
schestowitz | they seem to exist to enable corporate power | Jul 09 12:16 |
schestowitz | sometimes more so than democratic govs | Jul 09 12:16 |
schestowitz | quantum and hey hi are similar | Jul 09 12:16 |
schestowitz | shallow pr stunts | Jul 09 12:16 |
schestowitz | ibm does exploit them as well | Jul 09 12:16 |
scientes | schestowitz, https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/06/ibm-quits-facial-recognition-calls-for-federal-regulation-of-police-use/ | Jul 09 12:48 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | IBM asks Congress for police reform, leaves facial recognition business | Ars Technica | Jul 09 12:48 | |
schestowitz | face-saving | Jul 09 12:55 |
schestowitz | AMazon said the same | Jul 09 12:55 |
schestowitz | then Microsoft jumped in, but left loopholes | Jul 09 12:55 |
schestowitz | they say not police | Jul 09 12:55 |
schestowitz | but that leaves the possibility of contractors, ICE, DoD etc. | Jul 09 12:56 |
schestowitz | just some PR for them to point at when scrutinised | Jul 09 12:56 |
scientes | but they are all lying | Jul 09 12:56 |
schestowitz | yes | Jul 09 12:56 |
schestowitz | or semi-truths | Jul 09 12:56 |
schestowitz | half-lies | Jul 09 12:57 |
schestowitz | like non-denying denials | Jul 09 12:57 |
schestowitz | "did you kill him, sir?" | Jul 09 12:57 |
schestowitz | "no, I did not use a knife" | Jul 09 12:57 |
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kingoffrance | https://books.google.com/books?id=_X8HDgAAQBAJ&lpg=PA34&ots=PDzA0n9JEx&pg=PA34#v=onepage&f=false | Jul 09 13:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-books.google.com | American Spies: Modern Surveillance, Why You Should Care, and What to Do ... - Jennifer Stisa Granick - Google Books | Jul 09 13:45 | |
kingoffrance | i was trying to find "collect it all doesnt mean collect it all" | Jul 09 13:45 |
kingoffrance | but you see there, gathering is not collecting | Jul 09 13:45 |
kingoffrance | metadata is not data | Jul 09 13:45 |
kingoffrance | machines cant collect data, only people | Jul 09 13:46 |
kingoffrance | you see, it depends on your definition if "is" | Jul 09 13:46 |
MinceR | lol | Jul 09 13:47 |
kingoffrance | so yeah, they arent doing facial recognition | Jul 09 13:48 |
kingoffrance | until a human sees it | Jul 09 13:48 |
MinceR | they could also put some corporations in the middle | Jul 09 13:49 |
kingoffrance | sounds like white ops | Jul 09 13:49 |
MinceR | we're not doing facial recognition for the police. we're licensing our facial recognition technology to corporation A, which does facial recognition for corporation B, which was contracted by the police | Jul 09 13:50 |
kingoffrance | ^^ | Jul 09 13:50 |
kingoffrance | we have left the business | Jul 09 13:50 |
kingoffrance | our subsidiaries and partners are totally separate | Jul 09 13:50 |
MinceR | s/contracted/& (but also owned)/ | Jul 09 13:52 |
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kingoffrance | if that sounds crazy: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/08/guide-deceptions-word-games-obfuscations-officials-use-mislead-public-about-nsa | Jul 09 13:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | A Guide to the Deceptions, Misinformation, and Word Games Officials Use to Mislead the Public About NSA Surveillance | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Jul 09 13:57 | |
kingoffrance | see "not under this program" | Jul 09 13:57 |
kingoffrance | oabama "we have no domestic spying program" ...cuz metadata isnt data | Jul 09 13:59 |
kingoffrance | they werent storing it...just temporarily | Jul 09 13:59 |
kingoffrance | it wasnt forever ever | Jul 09 14:00 |
kingoffrance | so it wasnt storing | Jul 09 14:00 |
MinceR | (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/vNcuNgP.gifv | Jul 09 14:00 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-i.imgur.com | Imgur | Jul 09 14:00 | |
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XRevan86 | https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/07/09/marketing-plan-draft-discussion-about-options-available-and-timetable/ | Jul 09 14:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | Marketing plan draft: Discussion about options available, and timetable - The Document Foundation Blog | Jul 09 14:22 | |
schestowitz | MinceR: fracatal | Jul 09 14:23 |
schestowitz | >cat< | Jul 09 14:23 |
MinceR | :> | Jul 09 14:23 |
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MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/2002263 | Jul 09 15:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4386594) | Jul 09 15:13 | |
XRevan86 | MinceR: An improved Lada Priora? | Jul 09 15:20 |
MinceR | dunno, all i can tell that it's a lada | Jul 09 15:21 |
MinceR | with wagon wheels | Jul 09 15:21 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: It is Priora | Jul 09 15:22 |
MinceR | ok | Jul 09 15:22 |
XRevan86 | folkswagon wheels? | Jul 09 15:30 |
MinceR | no, the kind that's pullsed by draught animals | Jul 09 15:31 |
MinceR | s/lls/ll/ | Jul 09 15:31 |
MinceR | only much bigger, of course | Jul 09 15:31 |
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MinceR | (cat) (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/04/26/fae8d949fcf9a985.mp4 | Jul 09 15:52 |
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MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20022418 | Jul 09 16:23 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4381065) | Jul 09 16:23 | |
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MinceR | https://files.catbox.moe/felg3q.jpg | Jul 09 17:07 |
MathAmphetamine | yes! | Jul 09 17:08 |
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DaemonFC[m] | More and more videos are using this damned HTTP Live Streaming to try to stop users from figuring out where the video file is and grabbing it. | Jul 09 18:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | Fedora is going to switch to systemd-resolved in 33. They comment that Ubuntu made the switch 3 years ago. Yes, yes, and that's why they were vulnerable to the CVEs where a DNS server could launch an attack with remote code execution on an Ubuntu system, and Fedora was not. Yeah, let's switch to that. | Jul 09 19:01 |
DaemonFC[m] | The really funny thing about letting Ubuntu grab resolved 3 years ago is that they let their own "enterprise" (and desktop) users go splat for a change with all the truly horrendous problems.I think that should probably be what happens with more components. | Jul 09 19:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | Possibly one of the better things about Firefox doing its own DNS lookups over HTTPS is that the DNS server can't reply "Oh here, systemd-resolved, run this would you?". :) | Jul 09 19:12 |
MinceR | lol | Jul 09 19:13 |
MinceR | gotta have the newest, most "modern", "hip" and "cool" vulnerabilities | Jul 09 19:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | Unfortunately, other programs will end up doing DNS queries themselves and getting such an issue, if another one pops up. | Jul 09 19:13 |
*XRevan86 saw CVE reports the day after installing unbound. | Jul 09 19:17 | |
XRevan86 | ( ) | Jul 09 19:18 |
XRevan86 | https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2020-July/001969.html | Jul 09 19:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.freebsd.org | [FreeBSD-Announce] FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-20:19.unbound | Jul 09 19:18 | |
DaemonFC[m] | Somewhere along the way, Network Manager is letting whatever wifi setup the user happens to be on redirect to its own DNS servers. I would say that's a security hazard. It would be nice if there was jsut a checkbox in there telling it to override the regular DNS setup and use DoH systemwide. | Jul 09 19:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | It could hardly be any worse than what's going on right now. | Jul 09 19:22 |
XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Um, change the connection settings? | Jul 09 19:23 |
XRevan86 | From DHCP to "DHCP, only address" | Jul 09 19:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | Doesn't seem to actually stick. | Jul 09 19:23 |
XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Should stick. Unless you get new configuration every time. | Jul 09 19:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | Network Manager says /etc/resolv.conf is being managed by it and here' the DNS servers you told it to use. | Jul 09 19:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | Then you go to check DNS Leak Test or something and sure enough, here's your ISP's DNS server | Jul 09 19:25 |
XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Anyway, what is Fedora using right now in systemd-resolved's place? https://security.googleblog.com/2017/10/behind-masq-yet-more-dns-and-dhcp.html this? | Jul 09 19:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-security.googleblog.com | Google Online Security Blog: Behind the Masq: Yet more DNS, and DHCP, vulnerabilities | Jul 09 19:25 | |
DaemonFC[m] | glibc's built-in DNS resolver, according to the change proposal. | Jul 09 19:26 |
scientes | dnsmasq is a great piece of software | Jul 09 19:26 |
scientes | I used it for quite a while | Jul 09 19:27 |
scientes | easy to configure, lots of features | Jul 09 19:27 |
XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: I read about nscd yesterday, what I got out of it is that it's not intended for caching DNS. | Jul 09 19:27 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Not going to say that it's not. | Jul 09 19:28 |
XRevan86 | scientes: But since systemd-resolved is not perfect, I want to point out that DNS servers don't tend to have a perfect record. | Jul 09 19:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | Everything you were doing previously will break. | Jul 09 19:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | Your editing of these files will be ignored. | Jul 09 19:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | Thank you for using Red Hat, where system configures you. | Jul 09 19:29 |
XRevan86 | And one is not supposed to manually edit /etc/resolv.conf. Especially when using something like dnsmasq. | Jul 09 19:29 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mobian is a Linux-based smartphone OS based on Debian http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139690#comment-25739 [https://pleroma.site/objects/58e5a490-23ea-4cd5-b15c-f979eb70f93c] | Jul 09 19:30 | |
XRevan86 | And my observation is that software tends not to as well, instead making a symlink. | Jul 09 19:30 |
XRevan86 | or telling the user that they should make a symlink | Jul 09 19:31 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Google’s Flutter Apps are Coming to Desktop Linux Thanks to Ubuntu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139660#comment-25736 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3709e3f1-2fe2-48cf-bf2d-868f2b7badd3] | Jul 09 19:31 | |
DaemonFC[m] | Red Hat is mostly to blame for the whole "It's Linux, so if that howto is more than 5 minutes old don't count on anything being the same now." effect. | Jul 09 19:34 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE’s July 2020 Apps Update Improves KTorrent, KMyMoney, KDiff3, and Others http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139696 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a0138d0c-b9be-4805-95c5-7d440f41ced5] | Jul 09 19:34 | |
DaemonFC[m] | Debian is fucking with the shit because they ceased being independent of Red Hat anyway. | Jul 09 19:37 |
*psydread think Red Hat/Systemd/Github/GNU/Linux is ready to be disrupted | Jul 09 19:38 | |
DaemonFC[m] | You can use whatever you want, but it's mostly Red Hat anyway, mostly. | Jul 09 19:38 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Debian 8 Long Term Support reaching end-of-life http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139701 [https://pleroma.site/objects/338f530e-2060-432a-9144-f87fd593cc85] | Jul 09 19:38 | |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Solus Stands on Its Own http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139700 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1d2224ef-6aef-4766-a6d7-0b66bad8613d] | Jul 09 19:40 | |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The 10 Best Scanning Tools for Linux System in 2020 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139699 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8b89a79c-3bc6-4127-8d90-706cddf97c16] | Jul 09 19:41 | |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139698 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a7e61e21-187d-487c-bccc-7638d73832fd] | Jul 09 19:46 | |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Nvidia 450.57 Linux Graphics Driver Improves Support for Vulkan Apps, Adds New Features http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139697 [https://pleroma.site/objects/abe47d71-1b64-49fa-82c7-7a2299d65928] | Jul 09 19:49 | |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: kde.org/applications site now with more App Stores and Downloads http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139696#comment-25738 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a253db1f-2a75-452e-8751-b26971a4a8b2] | Jul 09 19:51 | |
DaemonFC[m] | Linux is just rotting from the inside out. | Jul 09 19:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | More features go in. Nobody is terribly worried about bugs. | Jul 09 19:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | If they get fixed, they might take patches, but that's about it. | Jul 09 19:52 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Rockchip PX30 based in-vehicle system supports OBD-II telematics and ADAS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139695 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9c5157ff-906c-4137-b07a-1f262f42e04c] | Jul 09 19:53 | |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Stable Kernels: 5.7.8, 5.4.51, 4.19.132, 4.14.188, 4.9.230, and 4.4.230 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139694 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c4cbae29-b1f4-4160-bb8a-16b34581d96e] | Jul 09 19:54 | |
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DaemonFC[m] | A constant of fascism is that they never commit themselves to anything. They just say it could happen. | Jul 09 20:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | It seems kind of stupid to do immutable root filesystem and btrfs. Btrfs itself brings the ability to snaphot root and rollback. | Jul 09 20:06 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE Seeing Fresh Improvements For HiDPI Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139696#comment-25740 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0aa31e88-2ccd-4568-8249-27212a32bfad] | Jul 09 20:08 | |
DaemonFC[m] | Although I can see the advantages of rollback in a system like Fedora. | Jul 09 20:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | They're not particularly careful to test package updates. | Jul 09 20:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | John said don't go near that, failure is contagious sometimes. | Jul 09 20:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | In a traditional package manager in Linux, there's probably no better way of explaining that. | Jul 09 20:12 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: LibreOffice Might Delay Its “Personal Edition” Branding http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139581#comment-25741 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4e86d55f-dd7d-49f8-b284-5328902746c2] | Jul 09 20:13 | |
DaemonFC[m] | One in. All in. If you get a bad update and everything is using that library, byeeeee. | Jul 09 20:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | Systemd Resolved: Soon you will see things more horrible than you can possibly imagine! | Jul 09 20:21 |
DaemonFC[m] | *zoom in on Ubuntu's previous dnsmasq setup* | Jul 09 20:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | Systemd Resolved: Okay, maybe not that horrible but still pretty bad.... | Jul 09 20:22 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139703 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7fa4c1f3-a5d3-4796-8411-a618c40e2c02] | Jul 09 20:29 | |
DaemonFC[m] | I was starting to experience errrm issues with GNOME and that's one reason I finally went oh snap. I read something about KDE running on a freaking pinebook a while back and then here's GNOME leaking like a screen door on a submarine. :/ | Jul 09 20:37 |
psydread | I don't think KDE runs particularly well on a Pinebook, but Red Hat made GNOME run like a snail on this reasonably powerful hardware, which is quite a feat to pull off | Jul 09 20:39 |
XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: So, dnsmasq is bad, resolved is bad, does that mean you don't like caching servers in general? | Jul 09 20:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | I tried bringing up the GNOME Clocks thing waking up 10 times a day and pegging an entire core on an i7-6560U for 5 minutes at a time and causing a China Syndrome on my laptop, but I was told to shaddup, so I've never formatted a disk over a Clock before, but congratulations. | Jul 09 20:40 |
psydread | who told you to shut up? Red Hat developers? | Jul 09 20:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | Pretty much. | Jul 09 20:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | They're not interested in fixing GNOME. It's hopeless. | Jul 09 20:45 |
psydread | well, I'm not interested in them and their software either | Jul 09 20:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | The fucking Clock wakes up and I go "Huh, that's strange. I don't remember setting parallel wavpack -hh -x6.......". | Jul 09 20:46 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Proton, SUPERHOT, Vintage Story http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139705 [https://pleroma.site/objects/be90805f-2ec7-4349-ae78-1fa40c198b3b] | Jul 09 20:46 | |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139706 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0f24ada9-202e-4d1d-bdee-d54bca2fbf1d] | Jul 09 20:53 | |
DaemonFC[m] | They're certainly adding more major problems to GNOME than they are fixing. | Jul 09 21:01 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Open Hardware: Arduino and Beyond http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139707 [https://pleroma.site/objects/eefef049-138b-4ef2-883d-ab7c88754939] | Jul 09 21:01 | |
DaemonFC[m] | So Canonical reports it as a blow by blow. They'll say "Daniel van Vugt just fixed this this and that." then there will be a bumper article going "Also, window reaping has been completely broken for a year and nobody noticed.". | Jul 09 21:01 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Service Router Linux/SR Linux From Server http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139708 [https://pleroma.site/objects/219b5d73-c658-4519-9a6c-f7c6f7c32036] | Jul 09 21:04 | |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: What’s This New Ubuntu ‘Rolling Rhino’ And Do You Need It? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139250#comment-25743 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a571e572-da39-423d-9cbf-ccf759ae6a39] | Jul 09 21:06 | |
DaemonFC[m] | I'm not really liking WebExtensions to be honest. Thanks to all of this HTTP Live Streaming bullshit duct taped together in Javascript instead of "Here's a video. Play it.", you compromise the security added by the Flatpak system to install a "native helper app" for Video Download Helper. Firefox might not be able to breach the Flatpak sandbox, but at that point anything that breaks into the WebExtensions process and | Jul 09 21:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | hijacks Video Download Helper can call out to the Native App, and _that_ can. | Jul 09 21:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's still a higher bar and less useful to an attacker. | Jul 09 21:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | They'd have to string together a more complicated attack against the browser using an extension to an extension that you may not have. | Jul 09 21:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | But it's possible. | Jul 09 21:09 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: Ubuntu Podcast, BSD Now and Bad Voltage http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139709 [https://pleroma.site/objects/71e858c1-c737-4471-885b-be430573b81d] | Jul 09 21:13 | |
DaemonFC[m] | I removed the system copy of Firefox. | Jul 09 21:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Flatpak version it is then. | Jul 09 21:15 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139704 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4270cd6d-f4c0-4711-8031-b7edda0bae49] | Jul 09 21:16 | |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Here’s How to Upgrade from #LinuxMint 19.3 to Linux Mint 20 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139702 [https://pleroma.site/objects/05e0aca2-5909-425a-8309-0fba29535c87] | Jul 09 21:19 | |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Are you going to mention the Reddit fingerprinting script? | Jul 09 21:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | I doubt that public shaming will get them to budge, but some combination of EasyPrivacy/DDG Tracker Radar/Disconnect going to war with it and some bad publicity might. | Jul 09 21:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | Mozilla really is overdoing the whole Firefox turning into nagware out of the box. | Jul 09 21:49 |
psydread | they're sealing the fate of the application and possibly the whole Mozilla Foundation, so hats off to them | Jul 09 21:51 |
scientes | 100000000000000000==100000000000000001 | Jul 09 21:55 |
scientes | true | Jul 09 21:55 |
scientes | XRevan86, ^ | Jul 09 21:56 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Are you in float world? | Jul 09 21:56 |
scientes | javascript | Jul 09 21:56 |
XRevan86 | scientes: ah, I think I know why | Jul 09 21:57 |
scientes | OC | Jul 09 21:57 |
scientes | but still | Jul 09 21:57 |
XRevan86 | scientes: OC? | Jul 09 21:58 |
scientes | of course | Jul 09 21:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | Someone broke into my Disney account. | Jul 09 21:58 |
XRevan86 | I thought that maybe it's NaN or Infinity and javascript thinks those are equal being shit and all | Jul 09 21:58 |
scientes | that you can just write as many digits as you want is the funny thing | Jul 09 21:59 |
scientes | shows how unpolished JS is | Jul 09 21:59 |
XRevan86 | but no, it just silently lowers overflowed numbers to the max | Jul 09 21:59 |
scientes | not true | Jul 09 21:59 |
XRevan86 | or not? | Jul 09 22:00 |
scientes | 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000==10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 | Jul 09 22:00 |
scientes | true | Jul 09 22:00 |
scientes | 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000==100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000021 | Jul 09 22:00 |
scientes | false | Jul 09 22:00 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Okay, spill | Jul 09 22:00 |
XRevan86 | what the heck | Jul 09 22:00 |
scientes | (that isn't an extra number) | Jul 09 22:00 |
scientes | it just keeps multiplying by 10 | Jul 09 22:00 |
scientes | or maybe it is the funny IEEE == operator | Jul 09 22:00 |
scientes | 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000==10000000000000001000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 | Jul 09 22:01 |
scientes | false | Jul 09 22:01 |
XRevan86 | scientes: 10000000000000000 + 1 = 10000000000000000 | Jul 09 22:01 |
scientes | ahhhhh | Jul 09 22:02 |
scientes | that is just IEEE however | Jul 09 22:02 |
scientes | you can something too small and it does nothing | Jul 09 22:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | Someone broke into my Disney account to watch ESPN and they were using PIA. Interesting. | Jul 09 22:03 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Right, so it is not an integer indeed. | Jul 09 22:03 |
scientes | that I understand | Jul 09 22:03 |
scientes | but that it will just keep multiplying by 10 | Jul 09 22:03 |
scientes | and let you enter as many digits as you want.. | Jul 09 22:04 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Why wouldn't it | Jul 09 22:04 |
scientes | cause it is silly | Jul 09 22:04 |
XRevan86 | scientes: It's not hard for floats. | Jul 09 22:04 |
scientes | unless you have a .0 | Jul 09 22:04 |
XRevan86 | scientes: apparently it's implicit | Jul 09 22:04 |
*XRevan86 pukes from how shitty this is. | Jul 09 22:05 | |
scientes | XRevan86, there is also decimal floating point | Jul 09 22:05 |
scientes | won't solve this issue however | Jul 09 22:06 |
scientes | not very common | Jul 09 22:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | According to Microsoft, people all over the world have tried to sign into my Outlook mail account. | Jul 09 22:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | Unsuccessfully it says. | Jul 09 22:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | I used a Firefox generated password and changed that. | Jul 09 22:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, it's definitely some kind of a botnet attacking my Outlook Mail. | Jul 09 22:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | Some of them were using an account alias, so I removed it from my profile. | Jul 09 22:11 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Not even PHP and Perl5 are that bad. | Jul 09 22:27 |
XRevan86 | scientes: JS really takes a strong lead. | Jul 09 22:27 |
XRevan86 | oh wait, it's a pragma… | Jul 09 22:27 |
XRevan86 | Is perl that bad? | Jul 09 22:28 |
scientes | except it isn't that WTF because it is clear | Jul 09 22:28 |
scientes | the reason | Jul 09 22:28 |
XRevan86 | scientes: It's worse, because it means that JS is implicitly lossy. | Jul 09 22:29 |
scientes | no it isn't | Jul 09 22:29 |
XRevan86 | it loses precision | Jul 09 22:29 |
scientes | you just have to stay under 48 bits | Jul 09 22:30 |
scientes | 51 IIRC | Jul 09 22:30 |
scientes | 52 bits | Jul 09 22:30 |
scientes | you have 52 bits of precision | Jul 09 22:30 |
scientes | if you want more, you have to do Knuth stuff | Jul 09 22:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | Codecs are just an ongoing mess in general. That's why I was pleased to see VLC in Flatpak form with bubblewrap."Spank spank spank* Stay in there! | Jul 09 22:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: At least this _should_ keep some VLC exploits from escaping into the rest of the system. | Jul 09 22:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | I think Flatpak is somewhat underrated. | Jul 09 22:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | QBittorrent is in Flatpak too. | Jul 09 23:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's potentially dangerous to run too. | Jul 09 23:00 |
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