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| scientes | superkuh, smart ass | Aug 09 00:00 |
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| scientes | when bobby-head politicians start say "*they* don't have rule of law" you know its a case of "of course you are, but what am i?" | Aug 09 00:01 |
| superkuh | I meant the states, literally. | Aug 09 00:01 |
| scientes | but the US doesn't have states | Aug 09 00:01 |
| scientes | it has inefficient distributors of federal money | Aug 09 00:01 |
| scientes | which all comes from the credit card machine | Aug 09 00:01 |
| superkuh | Sounds like a tangential issue you have? | Aug 09 00:02 |
| superkuh | I literally meant it would be hard to deal with bleeding edge case law in the US universally due to different legal codes in the various states. | Aug 09 00:02 |
| scientes | yeah but they are complaining that they can't even get standing | Aug 09 00:03 |
| scientes | which is a totally different issue | Aug 09 00:03 |
| MinceR | i suspect there's no rule of law anywhere | Aug 09 00:03 |
| scientes | and Google (which is basically a branch of the state dept. now) and these other tech companies are not only above the law (In Peru their prices do not include VAT, which is illegal), but are a new fascist branch of the govt. | Aug 09 00:04 |
| scientes | MinceR, yeah culture is superior to law | Aug 09 00:04 |
| MinceR | culture won't protect citizens from the state | Aug 09 00:05 |
| scientes | in 2015 after 5 protestors died protesting a copper mine in peru, the project was halted until now, 4 years later | Aug 09 00:06 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126756 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7ed82297-988e-4d82-b828-defdd103d607] | Aug 09 00:42 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Age rating data for Flathub apps http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126757 [https://pleroma.site/objects/799dd337-856e-4be6-be52-b628ea679219] | Aug 09 00:55 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Proton 4.11-2, Stone Story and Indivisiblehttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126758 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2643f231-2e6a-4a38-babf-b0216a4d47f7] | Aug 09 00:59 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mozilla: SUMO, CPU Spikes in Firefox and Data Collection (Surveillance) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126759 [https://pleroma.site/objects/31e35b35-3c81-4dcc-8527-98a1265436fd] | Aug 09 01:22 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126760 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cb2a05c8-0368-4ad6-86d3-24b51af38374] | Aug 09 01:25 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: libfprint 1.0, Libinput 1.14 and OpenCL 2.2-11 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126761 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b52b22ee-c2d8-454c-9236-c0d260e57271] | Aug 09 01:28 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Darling: macOS compatibility for Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126762 [https://pleroma.site/objects/829793d4-bdf3-4022-9041-434f0adc8f8e] | Aug 09 01:37 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kernel: Linux 5.3, KernelShark 1.0, "Seems Perfectly Feasible and Then Dies" http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126763 [https://pleroma.site/objects/742d0b9b-425b-43a9-b8af-549ca8e6dcde] | Aug 09 01:42 | |
| cubexyz | some of my electronics is >20 years old | Aug 09 02:16 |
| cubexyz | the JVC RX-207 radio receiver is from 1991 | Aug 09 02:16 |
| cubexyz | some of the computers are over 20 years old | Aug 09 02:16 |
| cubexyz | the Tyan motherboards seem to really last | Aug 09 02:16 |
| cubexyz | just tested the RX-207 last night | Aug 09 02:17 |
| cubexyz | some of the UK radio people still use valve radios from the 1940s | Aug 09 02:21 |
| cubexyz | not even sure if they do FM | Aug 09 02:21 |
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| schestowitz | > You're welcome <3 | Aug 09 02:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 02:59 |
| schestowitz | > I'd run this immediately, we dont know how long it's good for. | Aug 09 02:59 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 02:59 |
| schestowitz | > No, I have not run it-- you should assume that this stuff will disappear if you don't. I can't transfer all this to you even if I were to. | Aug 09 02:59 |
| schestowitz | I'd say, start running it with longer intervals | Aug 09 02:59 |
| schestowitz | Back in the days we managed to save #linuxfordevices after the new owner decided to take the site offline. | Aug 09 02:59 |
| schestowitz | We'll try to save LJ archives | Aug 09 02:59 |
| schestowitz | I have a list of 12,500 #linuxjournal URLs on a file | Aug 09 02:59 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE: KDE Neon Wallpaper and Google Code-in 2018 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126766 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c3f98274-b5ea-454c-ae2e-644c5189284f] | Aug 09 03:24 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Servers, SUSE, Red Hat and Fedora http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126767 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fbbadebc-e9de-4980-a7d0-640abd490181] | Aug 09 03:29 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 9/8/2019: LibreOffice 6.3, Red Hat Joins The RISC-V Foundation, KernelShark 1.0, End of LJ http://techrights.org/2019/08/08/libreoffice-6-3/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/89f60627-3fc8-4ea5-a768-1553544b0f2f] | Aug 09 03:59 | |
| psydroid | I wonder what the point of buying linuxfordevices and subsequently shutting it down was | Aug 09 04:13 |
| psydroid | it came back as linuxgizmos amyway | Aug 09 04:13 |
| schestowitz | yup | Aug 09 04:13 |
| schestowitz | and... | Aug 09 04:13 |
| schestowitz | also desktoplinux | Aug 09 04:13 |
| schestowitz | sjvn's old site | Aug 09 04:14 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15643939 | Aug 09 04:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #linuxfordevices is still online (archive) owing to action from #techrights That's like 10,000 articles... http://techrights.org/2013/07/19/preservation-not-censorship/ | Aug 09 04:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Ask QuinStreet to Bring Back DesktopLinux and LinuxDevices | Techrights | Aug 09 04:14 | |
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| schestowitz | we need to pressure PIA to keep LJ online | Aug 09 04:18 |
| schestowitz | or hand it over to someone who can host it | Aug 09 04:18 |
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| psydroid | yes | Aug 09 04:20 |
| schestowitz | writing an article | Aug 09 04:28 |
| schestowitz | will campaign for this | Aug 09 04:28 |
| schestowitz | a friend already wrote a script to download the whole site, complete with all the URLs | Aug 09 04:28 |
| schestowitz | but has not run the script uey | Aug 09 04:28 |
| schestowitz | yet | Aug 09 04:28 |
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| psydroid | I hope it can be done before the site goes offline forever | Aug 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | yes, hence the urgency | Aug 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | friend sent a frantic email with script less than 12 hours after they announced the shutdown | Aug 09 04:31 |
| schestowitz | saying there may not be much time left | Aug 09 04:31 |
| schestowitz | I can imagine their writers already scrape their older articles there, for personal copies... | Aug 09 04:31 |
| schestowitz | there may not be much time left | Aug 09 04:32 |
| schestowitz | it's incurring extra bandwidth cost | Aug 09 04:32 |
| schestowitz | host level | Aug 09 04:32 |
| schestowitz | so they might pull the plug | Aug 09 04:32 |
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| psydroid | yeah | Aug 09 04:35 |
| schestowitz | getting many people to download would accelerate the demise | Aug 09 04:35 |
| schestowitz | as it would be bots/scripts staging a DDOS | Aug 09 04:35 |
| schestowitz | and they'd want nothing to do with such a nuisance | Aug 09 04:36 |
| psydroid | I wouldn't mind helping out but I don't have a lot of spare storage | Aug 09 04:37 |
| psydroid | yes, I understand | Aug 09 04:38 |
| schestowitz | better not to run it | Aug 09 04:38 |
| schestowitz | I have the script | Aug 09 04:38 |
| schestowitz | I told a mate from Boston he might want to be the only one to run it, the outcome would be gigabytes of stuff | Aug 09 04:39 |
| schestowitz | for copyright reasons we cannot put it online | Aug 09 04:39 |
| schestowitz | but as in Quinstreet they can sign a waiver later | Aug 09 04:39 |
| schestowitz | Hence LinuxGizmos was able to mirrror ALL the articles from the old site | Aug 09 04:39 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15644073 | Aug 09 04:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #linuxjournal authors, please get in touch. We can work together to ensure that the site doesn't go offline and, if it does, we'll have a mirror elsewhere. It's a #copyright assignment issue, probably with PIA. | Aug 09 04:41 | |
| schestowitz | https://pleroma.site/notice/9lhH2pTSHAriZY8Xxo | Aug 09 04:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 09 04:53 | |
| schestowitz | "definitely. Way back machine, torrent packages, DAT. I always wanted to subscribe to LJ but am living below the poverty line. The richest in this country are through drugs, extortion, accounting, airbnb and stock trading. Only so many can fit in those fields." | Aug 09 04:53 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/LinuxNewsToday/comments/cmnlca/slander_and_libel_from_microsoft_demonising_the/ | Aug 09 04:55 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/LinuxNewsToday/comments/cmrr8z/the_eric_lundgren_case_and_similar_highprofile/ | Aug 09 04:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Slander and Libel From Microsoft (Demonising the Victim) : LinuxNewsToday | Aug 09 04:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | The Eric Lundgren Case and Similar High-Profile Plea 'Bargains' (Aaron Swartz and Marcus Hutchins) : LinuxNewsToday | Aug 09 04:56 | |
| psydroid | I'm wondering if I'm on some Microsoft (hit) list, as they're one of the few companies who haven't reached out to me to hire me over the past few years | Aug 09 04:59 |
| schestowitz | They call it "BI" | Aug 09 04:59 |
| schestowitz | so yeah, these companies pass around lots of "data" | Aug 09 05:00 |
| schestowitz | (secrets) | Aug 09 05:00 |
| schestowitz | it's their new 'gold' | Aug 09 05:00 |
| psydroid | what is worse is that they've infiltrated my university's quantum computing master's program and the responsible professor is someone employed by or from Microsoft | Aug 09 05:01 |
| schestowitz | yes, common | Aug 09 05:02 |
| schestowitz | microsoft also bribes profs | Aug 09 05:02 |
| schestowitz | e.g. to recommend or mention msft products | Aug 09 05:02 |
| schestowitz | it was covered by the press in the 1990s | Aug 09 05:02 |
| schestowitz | we have copies | Aug 09 05:02 |
| psydroid | in general they are very foss-friendly, more so than other educational institutions | Aug 09 05:05 |
| psydroid | but this struck me as odd | Aug 09 05:05 |
| psydroid | Intel is also involved | Aug 09 05:05 |
| schestowitz | they're everywhere | Aug 09 05:05 |
| schestowitz | I saw this as an RA | Aug 09 05:06 |
| schestowitz | Some of the profs employed by Google | Aug 09 05:06 |
| schestowitz | lab funded by Intel | Aug 09 05:06 |
| schestowitz | lots of MSFT around | Aug 09 05:06 |
| schestowitz | universities became a lot more corporatised in recent decades | Aug 09 05:06 |
| psydroid | https://qutech.nl/microsoft-and-tu-delft-collaboration-started/ | Aug 09 05:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qutech.nl | Collaboration Microsoft and TU Delft started - QuTech | Aug 09 05:06 | |
| schestowitz | it's a corruption of academia and determines whet\a researched and what's not | Aug 09 05:06 |
| psydroid | https://qutech.nl/qutechentersintocollaborationwithintel/ | Aug 09 05:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qutech.nl | Quantum institute enters into collaboration with Intel - QuTech | Aug 09 05:07 | |
| schestowitz | "collaboration" | Aug 09 05:07 |
| schestowitz | Not a donation | Aug 09 05:07 |
| schestowitz | they want something in return | Aug 09 05:07 |
| psydroid | exactly | Aug 09 05:07 |
| schestowitz | might as well sell the uni to them | Aug 09 05:07 |
| schestowitz | corrupt sellout | Aug 09 05:07 |
| psydroid | what also strikes me as very odd is how little is done with RISC-V in the computer science program | Aug 09 05:10 |
| schestowitz | well... | Aug 09 05:11 |
| schestowitz | that too has 'owners' | Aug 09 05:11 |
| schestowitz | but it's more liberal | Aug 09 05:11 |
| schestowitz | rht (ibm) has just joined | Aug 09 05:11 |
| psydroid | I know, but instead of that we learn x86 assembly and little bits of ARM as part of the operating systems course | Aug 09 05:13 |
| psydroid | which wouldn't be a bad thing | Aug 09 05:13 |
| schestowitz | same here | Aug 09 05:13 |
| schestowitz | at the time | Aug 09 05:13 |
| schestowitz | maybe it needs modernising | Aug 09 05:13 |
| schestowitz | suggest the changes | Aug 09 05:14 |
| schestowitz | x86 is back doors | Aug 09 05:14 |
| schestowitz | it's also defects | Aug 09 05:14 |
| psydroid | but from my experience students stay with what they learn at university | Aug 09 05:14 |
| schestowitz | that intel 'works around' with microcode updates | Aug 09 05:14 |
| schestowitz | since 2009 it's an imperial chips with NSA back doors | Aug 09 05:14 |
| psydroid | and rarely go beyond that unless they have to | Aug 09 05:14 |
| schestowitz | Dutch education should toss that in the rusty pile | Aug 09 05:14 |
| schestowitz | yes, schools too, not just unis | Aug 09 05:14 |
| schestowitz | that's why Gates bribes schools | Aug 09 05:15 |
| schestowitz | so that they teach (train for) Windows, Office... | Aug 09 05:15 |
| schestowitz | It's all corrupt | Aug 09 05:15 |
| schestowitz | even in the public sector | Aug 09 05:15 |
| schestowitz | maybe more so there, as there's expectation that tax money would be wisely spent | Aug 09 05:15 |
| psydroid | I wrote the x86_64 assembly for my computer organization course's lab, as my partner for that lab didn't really grasp that matter | Aug 09 05:16 |
| psydroid | but I always saw it as a way to make an impression on first-time students | Aug 09 05:16 |
| psydroid | as if they are being branded for the rest of their careers | Aug 09 05:17 |
| schestowitz | haha | Aug 09 05:19 |
| schestowitz | we used xilinx board at the time | Aug 09 05:19 |
| schestowitz | lots of risc/arm | Aug 09 05:19 |
| schestowitz | the founder was in our faculty | Aug 09 05:19 |
| schestowitz | stephen furber | Aug 09 05:19 |
| psydroid | ah | Aug 09 05:19 |
| psydroid | that definitely helps | Aug 09 05:20 |
| psydroid | they used to teach ppc until 15 years ago, but someone probably bribed them to switch to "industry-standard" architecture | Aug 09 05:21 |
| schestowitz | 'bribes' | Aug 09 05:22 |
| schestowitz | 'donation' | Aug 09 05:22 |
| schestowitz | 'support' | Aug 09 05:22 |
| schestowitz | 'collaboration | Aug 09 05:22 |
| psydroid | in the physics computer architecture course I learned mips and m68k | Aug 09 05:22 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2008/10/28/bribery-or-marketing-help/ | Aug 09 05:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | It’s Not Bribery If It’s Just “Marketing Help” | Techrights | Aug 09 05:22 | |
| psydroid | I didn't know x86 assembly until 2007 or so | Aug 09 05:22 |
| psydroid | and more recently x86_64 | Aug 09 05:22 |
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| schestowitz | > when i mirror from your server i aim for at least a 2 second interval between hits. from here, the dns resolution is factored in-- i monitor it and i could always be wrong, but there should be a reasonable delay to avoid knocking anything down or hogging it too much. | Aug 09 08:34 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 08:34 |
| schestowitz | > .3 (0.3 seconds) was chosen and put at the top so you can change it. its based on the urgency and the age of your hardware-- it should take one or two hours at least to get the whole thing. | Aug 09 08:34 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 08:34 |
| schestowitz | > but it was at the top if you wanted to change it to 2 or more. | Aug 09 08:34 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 08:34 |
| schestowitz | > i responded on d with @roy about the comments. | Aug 09 08:34 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 09 08:34 |
| schestowitz | > the short version: fair play to him, theyre only quibbles, and i have fewer reasons to quibble with his comments than he quibbled with my article. longer version on d. cheers. | Aug 09 08:34 |
| schestowitz | Don't archive LJ just yet. Maybe PIA will give authorisation. | Aug 09 08:34 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/0QZUf8F.jpg | Aug 09 09:08 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Contact Private Internet Access (PIA) Managers to Help Save Linux Journal From Shutdown http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126772 [https://pleroma.site/objects/12bec167-7d33-4f1a-a007-59c98f279ace] | Aug 09 09:35 | |
| MinceR | https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a3RPyW8_460swp.webp | Aug 09 09:45 |
| schestowitz | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/08/08/linux_journal_closes_again_editor_says_os_buried_under_proprietary_software/ | Aug 09 09:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Linux Journal runs shutdown -h now for a second time: Mag editor fires parting shot at proprietary software • The Register | Aug 09 09:46 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 09 09:46 |
| schestowitz | The website will stay up "for the next few weeks" and there are hopes to preserve the content archive. | Aug 09 09:46 |
| schestowitz | Linux is more successful than ever, and even Microsoft is adopting it to some extent, making a Linux VM an integral part of Windows 10, porting SQL Server to the operating system, and making Linux hosting a key part of its Azure cloud. That sounds like a big win for FOSS (free and open-source software), but Rankin said this is not really the case. | Aug 09 09:46 |
| schestowitz | The golden age of FOSS, Rankin argued, was around 2007 when Linux was mainstream in corporate IT and developers worked with it directly. Today, he says: | Aug 09 09:46 |
| schestowitz | Linux and FOSS are more hidden than ever. So many of those FOSS projects on GitHub ultimately are used as building blocks for proprietary software. So many companies that seem to champion FOSS by helping upstream projects they rely on also choose to keep the projects they write themselves proprietary. Although Linux dominates the cloud, more and more developers and system administrators who use the cloud do so via proprietary APIs and | Aug 09 09:46 |
| schestowitz | proprietary services. | Aug 09 09:46 |
| schestowitz | The same is true on mobile devices, which are dominated by proprietary software even though Android is based on Linux. | Aug 09 09:46 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 09 09:46 |
| MinceR | i didn't know "more successful than ever" meant the same thing as "dying" | Aug 09 09:48 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: yeah | Aug 09 09:53 |
| schestowitz | or co-opted | Aug 09 09:53 |
| schestowitz | "free code" | Aug 09 09:53 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: "I've decided to contact Rick Falkvinge (Dick Greger Augustsson), founder of the Swedish Pirate Party and head of privacy at Private Internet Access, which owns Linux Journal." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/126772 [https://pleroma.site/objects/afb5ed9e-2115-4687-90b1-15fa22542a92] | Aug 09 10:05 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: is there still freenode spam? | Aug 09 10:46 |
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| MinceR | spam restarted recently | Aug 09 10:51 |
| MinceR | not sure if they're targeting freenode this time | Aug 09 10:51 |
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| schestowitz | "Jim Zemlin, executive director at the Linux Foundation, took de Icaza's criticism in stride. "We agree with Miguel that Apple makes great products," he said in a statement to InfoWorld." | Aug 09 11:00 |
| schestowitz | https://www.infoworld.com/article/2613816/gnome-co-founder-explains-why-he-dumped-linux-for-mac.html | Aug 09 11:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gnome co-founder explains why he dumped Linux for Mac | InfoWorld | Aug 09 11:00 | |
| schestowitz | wow, I missed that | Aug 09 11:00 |
| schestowitz | 2013 | Aug 09 11:00 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 09 11:03 |
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| MinceR | (audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/07/30/66ee03b20bce72c5.mp4 | Aug 09 11:27 |
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| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/07/30/5ad4fecc5bf1fa73.jpg | Aug 09 12:20 |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://imgur.com/gallery/ZENAUm3 ( https://i.imgur.com/PRf9QZh.mp4 ) | Aug 09 12:41 |
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| cubexyz | would that mac user be Miguel de Icaza? | Aug 09 12:52 |
| cubexyz | old news then | Aug 09 12:52 |
| cubexyz | and ifixit would disagree that apple makes "great products" | Aug 09 12:55 |
| cubexyz | great if you like planned obsolescence | Aug 09 12:56 |
| XRevan86 | Apple is like an apple: once you use it, it is over. | Aug 09 12:57 |
| cubexyz | ha, yes | Aug 09 13:02 |
| cubexyz | almost | Aug 09 13:02 |
| XRevan86 | An apple has a better aftertaste? :) | Aug 09 13:04 |
| cubexyz | apple does a complete iphone redesign every 2 years | Aug 09 13:05 |
| cubexyz | average iphone replacement is 4 years, so they say | Aug 09 13:05 |
| MinceR | unless they explode earlier | Aug 09 13:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: really apple use to make great products. Some of there early products were very good for the time. | Aug 09 13:06 |
| MinceR | which one, the apple III? :> | Aug 09 13:07 |
| cubexyz | he probably means stuff like Apple II, IIe, etc | Aug 09 13:07 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: apple 1 the kit and that apple II sturff. | Aug 09 13:07 |
| MinceR | uh huh | Aug 09 13:07 |
| MinceR | was icaza even born back then? | Aug 09 13:08 |
| MinceR | or zemlin? | Aug 09 13:08 |
| oiaohm | Yes the first apple your bought as a kit a parts you soldered up your self so none of this highly secret drm crap. | Aug 09 13:08 |
| cubexyz | yes, Icaza was born in 1972 | Aug 09 13:08 |
| oiaohm | The t2 chip in the apple laptops from mid 2018 is particular horrible. | Aug 09 13:09 |
| oiaohm | When it decided to stop forrget accessing the ssd stored data inside the laptop. | Aug 09 13:09 |
| oiaohm | I have had people ask me to get there data back is not fun saying sorry its gone. | Aug 09 13:10 |
| cubexyz | ZDNet said the repairable computer is dead, which isn't quite true | Aug 09 13:14 |
| oiaohm | It is truly getting there. | Aug 09 13:15 |
| cubexyz | there's recapping services, a bit pricey but available... usually around $125 per motherboard | Aug 09 13:18 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: please note ZDNet said repairable computer was dead in 2013. | Aug 09 13:31 |
| oiaohm | Repairs are still done to a point. But the volume of people using PC is also dropping. | Aug 09 13:31 |
| oiaohm | I am seeing a lot more places opening up doing phone repair resoldering and the like. | Aug 09 13:33 |
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| *psydroid owns a few Macs | Aug 09 14:28 | |
| *XRevan86 eats them whilst they're still warm. | Aug 09 14:29 | |
| psydroid | they're Powermacs of course! | Aug 09 14:29 |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/07/30/2b1a7853a06272fa.jpg | Aug 09 14:40 |
| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/0wqvQYB | Aug 09 14:44 |
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| MinceR | https://www.buttersafe.com/comics/2019-08-08-HuntingTrophies.jpg | Aug 09 15:07 |
| psydroid | https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/why-is-windows-so-rubbish/b321a55a-7a82-e011-9b4b-68b599b31bf5?page=1 | Aug 09 15:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-answers.microsoft.com | Why is windows so rubbish...? - Microsoft Community | Aug 09 15:10 | |
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| oiaohm | psydroid: os 9 was not that great for stablitity either. OS X got a lot from the bsd code base in stablity. | Aug 09 15:21 |
| MinceR | the original bsd code base is probably still a lot more stable | Aug 09 15:22 |
| oiaohm | There is something to open peer review of code bases. | Aug 09 15:22 |
| MinceR | same applies to the original mach code base :> | Aug 09 15:22 |
| psydroid | oiaohm, I haven't really used either, I got these machines for running/developing on Linux and BSD | Aug 09 15:22 |
| MinceR | developing for oneself to use invariably leads to better quality than developing to fill a brochure with feature items | Aug 09 15:23 |
| oiaohm | I know OS 8 and OS 9 of mac quite well because I was got todo pentration testing on them. | Aug 09 15:23 |
| oiaohm | Boy did i find quite a few ways to crash them. | Aug 09 15:23 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 09 15:24 |
| oiaohm | It was roughly half a page of A4 a bug and I consumed over 2 reams/ ie 1000 pages double sided on each. | Aug 09 15:25 |
| oiaohm | And that was just a me solo attacking OS 8 and OS 9. | Aug 09 15:26 |
| oiaohm | Things did really improve with OS X you did have to work to find faults. | Aug 09 15:26 |
| oiaohm | The most fun one in OS 9 was the fact you could make it blank out the system password by just powering off at wall at a particular point of startup. | Aug 09 15:27 |
| oiaohm | I don't know why it was deleting the password of disc but it was. | Aug 09 15:27 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 09 15:35 |
| scientes | os 9 was horrible | Aug 09 15:38 |
| scientes | thank god for linux | Aug 09 15:38 |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/07/30/8916b51727fc2023.png | Aug 09 16:04 |
| MinceR | https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aO0K9AR_460swp.webp | Aug 09 16:16 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/V5z9lWS.jpg | Aug 09 17:26 |
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| MinceR | https://imgur.com/gallery/HxCOKoY | Aug 09 19:59 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: I know about that cave | Aug 09 20:09 |
| schestowitz | but I think sometimes descriptions of it are exaggerations | Aug 09 20:09 |
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| MinceR | https://p1.picsto.re/RK4BC.jpg | Aug 09 20:17 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/F2r73B4.mp4 ( https://imgur.com/gallery/F2r73B4 ) | Aug 09 21:10 |
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| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/Sr17NtDxm-c | Aug 09 21:53 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19062920 | Aug 09 22:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Aug 09 22:11 | |
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| XRevan86 | https://blog.process-one.net/ejabberd-19-08 | Aug 09 22:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.process-one.net | ejabberd 19.08 | ProcessOne Blog | Aug 09 22:29 | |
| schestowitz | what is this? | Aug 09 22:55 |
| XRevan86 | An XMPP server. | Aug 09 22:56 |
| XRevan86 | a new release | Aug 09 22:56 |
| XRevan86 | One of the most commonly used alongside Prosody, Openfire and its fork MongooseIM. | Aug 09 22:58 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: turn the other cheek | Aug 09 22:58 |
| XRevan86 | its fork == ejabberd's fork | Aug 09 22:58 |
| schestowitz | we use openfire | Aug 09 22:58 |
| XRevan86 | Why would you?^U What do you find appealing about it? :) | Aug 09 22:59 |
| scientes | Its Hajj right now | Aug 09 23:01 |
| XRevan86 | To me it looks like yet another bloated Java programme. | Aug 09 23:02 |
| XRevan86 | From what I understand, people choose it for the web interface configuration instead of a config file. | Aug 09 23:03 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: lol | Aug 09 23:04 |
| scientes | Mecca has a metro that only operates 7 days a year https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Mashaaer_Al_Mugaddassah_Metro_line | Aug 09 23:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Al Mashaaer Al Mugaddassah Metro line - Wikipedia | Aug 09 23:08 | |
| scientes | 12-car trains | Aug 09 23:09 |
| scientes | " three departure stations and three arrival stations. " | Aug 09 23:09 |
| MinceR | don't let BKK people see that | Aug 09 23:10 |
| MinceR | subways in budapest are crap enough already | Aug 09 23:10 |
| scientes | this is super creepy https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/v3.html#introducing-new-recaptcha | Aug 09 23:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.google.com | reCAPTCHA: Easy on Humans, Hard on Bots | Aug 09 23:31 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19062871 | Aug 09 23:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Aug 09 23:38 | |
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| psydroid | I didn't take the subway in budapest at all | Aug 09 23:51 |
| psydroid | I just walked everywhere | Aug 09 23:51 |
| scientes | I took the shiny new subway in Panama city | Aug 09 23:57 |
| scientes | it was tiny (4 cars maximum) | Aug 09 23:57 |
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