●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, August 09, 2021 ●● ● Aug 09 [00:08] AdmFubar this is funny [00:08] AdmFubar https://www.notebookcheck.net/Sony-stops-the-bizarre-McDonald-s-PlayStation-5-DualSense-controller-at-the-last-moment.553323.0.html [00:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sony stops the bizarre McDonald's PlayStation 5 DualSense controller at the last moment - NotebookCheck.net News [00:27] DaemonFC Why do you need Sony's permission to skin a controller and give it away? [00:33] Ariadne if it uses their trademarks, it could be a problem [00:33] Ariadne i guess [00:34] DaemonFC The ony logos I saw on them were McDonalds. ● Aug 09 [01:06] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.46 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 48.18 swarm size (avg): 277.12 [01:08] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [01:08] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@t4isndj2qm3zi.irc) has joined #techrights [01:18] Ariadne DaemonFC: playstation button had playstation logo [01:22] DaemonFC There's no law that I'm aware of that says you can't buy something and then give it away. [01:32] techrights-news #9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: August 8th, 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154299 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: August 8th, 2021 | Tux Machines [01:39] techrights-news #Linux 5.14-rc5 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154300 [01:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.14-rc5 | Tux Machines [01:41] techrights-news Sorry, there is no "MY" or 'i' in iPhone. #apple controls the whole thing, so "spyware" is the least of your problems; it's ALWAYS SPYING! https://www.makeuseof.com/is-my-iphone-infected-with-pegasus-spyware/ see also spied by gov. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34444233 [01:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Is My iPhone Infected With Pegasus Spyware? [01:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Edward Snowden interview: 'Smartphones can be taken over' - BBC News [01:43] psydruid https://www.huaweicentral.com/huawei-reported-to-sell-its-server-business-will-keep-and-grow-kunpeng-chip/ [01:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huaweicentral.com | Huawei reported to sell its server business, will keep and grow Kunpeng chip - HC Newsroom [01:43] schestowitz-TR Kunpeng? [01:44] schestowitz-TR what is that based on? [01:44] psydruid their own ARM cores [01:44] schestowitz-TR BTW, the embargo, they claim, prevent them from putting FIVE GEEEEE! in 'phones' [01:44] schestowitz-TR *prevented [01:46] techrights-news "at the end of April I disclosed a bug in an NXP chip as part of my work at Oxide. The short summary is there was an undisclosed hardware block in the LPC55S69 which allowed for modification of the ROM and breaking of various isolation boundries. Oops?" https://www.labbott.name/blog/2021/08/08/lpc55s69.html [01:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.labbott.name | Fun with the LPC55S69 | Something witty yet insightful [01:56] techrights-news More shameless lies and nonsense about the dead #UPC from people who believe that endlessly repeating lies can somehow save it http://www.pmlive.com/pharma_news/opt_in_or_opt_out_925361 http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/UPC [01:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Opt in or opt out? - PMLiVE [01:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UPC - Techrights [01:57] techrights-news Review: #SMEServer 10.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154301 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: SME Server 10.0 | Tux Machines [01:58] techrights-news MEPs demand Brussels break global deadlock over Southern Ocean protected status https://www.euronews.com/2021/07/08/meps-demand-brussels-break-global-deadlock-over-southern-ocean-protected-status [01:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MEPs demand Brussels break global deadlock over Southern Ocean protected status | Euronews ● Aug 09 [02:00] techrights-news Has Forbes killed off Jason Evangelho? No more #gnu #linux coverage allowed unless they receive bribes? Like #microsoft does for endless #vista11 fluff... [02:01] techrights-news "The Free Software Foundation is funding a call for white papers of 3,000 or fewer words that address either Copilot itself or the subjects of copyright, machine learning, or free software as a whole" https://hackaday.com/2021/08/08/hackaday-links-august-8-2021/ [02:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hackaday Links: August 8, 2021 | Hackaday [02:05] techrights-news #apple may also use those hashes for #copyright enforcement for #hollywood etc. THIS IS NOT ABOUT CHILDREN, IT IS ABOUT CONTROL. https://gizmodo.com/critics-say-apple-built-a-backdoor-into-your-iphone-wit-1847438624 [02:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Critics: Apple's Child Abuse Detection Tools Threaten Privacy [02:06] techrights-news #ReactOS Is Going Places, With More Stable AMD64, SMP, And Multi-Monitor Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154302 [02:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ReactOS Is Going Places, With More Stable AMD64, SMP, And Multi-Monitor Support | Tux Machines [02:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.16 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.83 swarm size (avg): 277.07 [02:07] techrights-news Sudo vs. su: Which Command Should You Use? https://www.makeuseof.com/sudo-vs-su/ #makeuseof | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/09/#latest [02:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Sudo vs. su: Which Command Should You Use? [02:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [02:10] *psydruid has quit (connection closed) [02:10] techrights-news Sophie Corke keeps repeating the propaganda term "IP" more times than I can keep track of http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/08/sunday-surprises.html there's no such thing; call things what they really are... [02:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Sunday Surprises - The IPKat [02:11] techrights-news FOSS Patents: #Privacy and hypocrisy: #Apple wants to know your location to sell you music, but governments must not ask you to scan QR codes to fight the pandemic http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/08/privacy-and-hypocrisy-apple-wants-to.html #fosspatents | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/09/#latest [02:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Privacy and hypocrisy: Apple wants to know your location to sell you music, but governments must not ask you to scan QR codes to fight the pandemic [02:14] techrights-news The most cost-effective thing to do is not waste any money on #patents , but #patent #litigation firms won't tell you that, will they? https://www.udl.co.uk/insights/start-ups-cost-effective-patent-filing-strategies [02:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.udl.co.uk | Start-ups cost-effective patent filing strategies [02:17] techrights-news #TeamUPC is paying this #propagandamill for a self-serving interpretation of a #kangaroocourt of the #EPO ; when these rig courts are further 'analysed' by people looking to crush the law and abolish constitution we're in trouble https://www.managingip.com/article/b1t03r04lmz7pc/g119-and-a-game-of-golf-non-obviousness-is-a-par-3-hole [02:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | G1/19 and a game of golf: non-obviousness is a par-3 hole | Managing Intellectual Property [02:17] techrights-news Clickbait BS from #newscientist https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25133462-100-even-exorcists-are-now-working-remotely/ [02:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newscientist.com | Even exorcists are now working remotely | New Scientist [02:19] techrights-news US still granting loads of fake #patents such as #SoftwarePatents in a hub of #patenttrolls where courts became little but businesses https://dallasinnovates.com/dallas-invents-149-patents-granted-for-week-of-july-20/ #swpats #texas [02:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dallasinnovates.com | Dallas Invents: 149 Patents Granted forWeekofJuly20 Dallas Innovates [02:22] techrights-news Now enough done to leverage lockdowns to succumb to the demands and needs/will of workers rather than corporations, oligarchs, employers. In fact, they've made it obvious they prioritise profits over safety of humans. [02:23] techrights-news This week in GNU/Linux based #ChromeOS: https://www.xda-developers.com/this-week-in-chrome-os-chrome-os-92-hits-stable/ #xdadevelopers | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/09/#latest [02:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | This week in Chrome OS: Chrome OS 92 hits stable [02:26] techrights-news Seems like an odd approach for the mere illusion of safety https://soranews24.com/2021/08/08/fuji-rock-festival-to-send-free-covid-19-test-kits-to-all-ticket-holders/ [02:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fuji Rock Festival to send free COVID-19 test kits to all ticket holders | SoraNews24 -Japan News- [02:28] techrights-news "it was true that the interveners filing of the EUTM application had taken place after the applicant presented the modernization plan for its airport to the intervener." #trademark #trademarks https://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/08/eu-general-court-considers-bad-faith.html [02:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | EU General Court considers bad faith claim in scenario of parties earlier cooperation - The IPKat [02:30] techrights-news " #GSK sued for inducing infringement and the jury sided with GSK and awarded $200 million in damages. The district court rejected the jury verdict and instead found insufficient evidence to show causation" https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/skinny-approval-patent.html [02:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | GSK v. Teva: Skinny Label Approval is not a Patent Safe Harbor | Patently-O [02:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:31] techrights-news "It appears that the [ #uspto ]Director personally considered both cases rather than delegating the decision back to the #PTAB or another Official." https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/director-reviews-denied.html http://techrights.org/2017/03/05/dennis-crouch-worries-about-ptab-and-cafc/ [02:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | The First Post-IPR Director Reviews are Denied | Patently-O [02:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | PTAB and CAFC Crush Patents on Business Methods and Software, So Dennis Crouch Tries to Slow Them Down | Techrights [02:36] techrights-news In #irc dead channels with a million users are worthless http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-080821.html#tAug%2008%2016:29:25 [02:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, August 08, 2021 [02:36] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154303 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [02:36] techrights-news Emulating Nintendo Switch Games on Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154304 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Emulating Nintendo Switch Games on Linux | Tux Machines [02:36] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. 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[02:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, August 08, 2021 [02:39] techrights-news Agenda of #patent parasites being promoted by their propaganda mill, which also looks to scuttle #PTAB and thereby lower patent quality https://www.iam-media.com/litigation/us-litigation-4000-district-court-cases-2021 #patents http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IAM [02:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | US district court patent filings set to climb above 4,000 for the year | IAM [02:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IAM - Techrights [02:39] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-080821.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-080821.txt Read the log now... [02:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, August 08, 2021 [02:41] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-08-08.txt [02:49] AdmFubar https://www.osnews.com/story/133803/one-bad-apple/ [02:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-One bad Apple OSnews [02:51] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [02:53] techrights-news #greenwashing nonsense from large companies: we'll stop sending you paper bills because something "environment"; but they keep driving around polluting the planet, x1000 times worse. It's all about reducing their operational expenses, as those sheets of papers barely harm the environment (in relative terms), have vast value (proof of address, archiving etc.); your PC's production and battery/power usage for "online" alternatives like [02:53] schestowitz "battery/power usage for online alternatives likely worse" [02:55] AdmFubar oh but they will send you paper advertising like mad.. [02:55] techrights-news This is where all the large technology companies are going or have already gone, #Google and #Microsoft for sure https://www.osnews.com/story/133803/one-bad-apple/ #apple #surveillance #TechRights [02:55] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar: of course! [02:55] schestowitz-TR So you can file and keep ads in the cabinet! [02:56] AdmFubar my credit union does this... they charge for my monthly report, but send several ads a month for other services they offer. [02:58] techrights-news My energy provider #eon (which I never chose, those charlatans took over #npower without consultation or barriers/challenges from competition regulators) charge us over 2 pounds (!) for each paper bill they send. No "website" or "apps"? Pay extra 30 pounds or so per year. Not acceptable! [02:59] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar: yes [02:59] schestowitz-TR beat me to it [02:59] AdmFubar my credit union charges $1 a month.. ● Aug 09 [03:00] AdmFubar Roy... stallmans rss feed seems to be down at the moment [03:00] techrights-news #SardiniaTelescope Captures Most Detailed Radio Image Ever Seen of #Andromeda #Galaxy http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/radio-image-andromeda-galaxy-09911.html [03:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sardinia Telescope Captures Most Detailed Radio Image Ever Seen of Andromeda Galaxy | Astronomy | Sci-News.com [03:01] AdmFubar site is up... his rss feed isn't updating [03:01] schestowitz AdmFubar: what do you mean by "down"? [03:01] schestowitz ah [03:01] AdmFubar unresponcive [03:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [03:01] schestowitz I don't know how he generates it [03:01] schestowitz I can imagine it is some cron job [03:01] schestowitz copylefted for sure [03:02] AdmFubar might be in the middle of a back up? [03:02] schestowitz https://stallman.org/rss [03:02] schestowitz very short file [03:02] schestowitz or maybe he put some 'bad' char that broke the program's running [03:03] schestowitz nesting is telling [03:03] schestowitz it doesn't close [03:03] schestowitz won't validate [03:04] AdmFubar maybe a disk error [03:04] schestowitz this will break all the rms bots online [03:06] AdmFubar another one bites the dust https://www.salon.com/2021/08/08/former-newsmax-host-dies-of-covid-after-deathbed-about-face-on-anti-vax-beliefs/ [03:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Former Newsmax host dies of COVID after deathbed about-face on anti-vax beliefs | Salon.com [03:06] techrights-news Crisis of legitimacy for the entire #patent system https://indaily.com.au/news/business/2021/08/09/if-machines-can-be-inventors-could-ai-soon-monopolise-technology/ [03:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-indaily.com.au | If machines can be inventors, could AI soon monopolise technology? - InDaily [03:07] techrights-news When so many large companies operate at a loss, indebted to lenders https://telecom.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/indian-bankers-in-talks-as-court-rulings-threaten-over-6-billion-in-loans/85151786 [03:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telecom.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Vodafone Idea: Indian bankers in talks as court rulings threaten over $6 billion in loans, Telecom News, ET Telecom [03:08] AdmFubar they will monopolize everything... Hello Skynet! [03:08] techrights-news #DarwinAward for people who needlessly politicise basics like mask-wearing https://www.salon.com/2021/08/08/former-newsmax-host-dies-of-covid-after-deathbed-about-face-on-anti-vax-beliefs/ [03:08] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:10] techrights-news There's gross overuse of the term "anti-vax" these days, as many rightly foresaw. Refusing to participate in clinical trials over the years was never called "anti-vax" (until last year); the term anti-vax was used to describe deniers of the value of polio, measles, flu vaccines. [03:10] schestowitz AdmFubar: good for lawyers [03:10] schestowitz until they write a program [03:10] schestowitz "HEY HI" lawyer [03:11] schestowitz let computers game the whole thin [03:11] schestowitz like they already do the stock market [03:11] schestowitz high-frequency trading [sic] [03:12] techrights-news Very slippery slope https://www.law360.com/articles/1407508/south-africa-issues-world-s-first-patent-with-ai-inventor watch how the system crashes itself; sit back as it burns itself... #patents for BOTS. #patent #monopolies [03:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-South Africa Issues World's First Patent With AI Inventor - Law360 [03:13] AdmFubar Terminators = lawyers... mmmhhh [03:14] techrights-news Fishing expedition for dumb judges and #patent offices: "launched more than a dozen patent applications across the globe" https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/jul/30/im-sorry-dave-im-afraid-i-invented-that-australian-court-finds-ai-systems-can-be-recognised-under-patent-law #southAfrica and #australia FELL FOR IT [03:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Im sorry Dave Im afraid I invented that: Australian court finds AI systems can be recognised under patent law | Artificial intelligence (AI) | The Guardian [03:15] techrights-news " #SouthAfrica does not permit the patenting of software, but #Microsoft and/or #Novell have ignored the law." http://techrights.org/wiki/Software_Patents_in_South_Africa #swpats [03:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Patents in South Africa - Techrights [03:17] techrights-news 1980s: patents on maths 1990s: patents on anything; MORE PATENTS = MOAAAAAR INNOVATION 2000s: patents for trolls 2020: #patents to deny access to COVID treatment 2021: patents for bots Soon this whole system will collapse [03:19] techrights-news #Australia has made itself extremely foolish, gullible, desperate for low-grade 'patents' https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/australian-judge-rules-inventions-6431529/ [03:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Australian Judge Rules Inventions Developed By Artificial Intelligence Can Qualify For Patent Protection | Weintraub Tobin - JDSupra [03:20] techrights-news WOW! Now they're turning "Lifesciences" into one word, never mind if it's a misleading buzzword https://www.proactiveinvestors.com.au/companies/news/956791/proactive-to-host-lifesciences-webinar-on-tuesday-august-10-featuring-three-asx-listed-companies-956791.html see http://techrights.org/2018/07/08/life-science-patents/ [03:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.proactiveinvestors.com.au | Proactive to host Lifesciences Webinar on Tuesday, August 10, featuring three ASX-listed companies [03:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Term Life Science Has Outlived Its Usefulness | Techrights [03:22] techrights-news It does not seem like those #patent #litigation fanatics (profiteers) realise just to what degree this is damaging the credibility of the whole system they've hijacked in their corporate #coupdetat https://www.mondaq.com/australia/trademark/1099450/one-small-step-for-man-one-giant-leap-for-ai-australian-court-finds-dabus-can-be-an-inventor [03:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | One Small Step For Man, One Giant Leap For AI: Australian Court Finds DABUS Can Be An Inventor - Intellectual Property - Australia [03:23] DaemonFC https://www.chicagobusiness.com/utilities/retail-suppliers-charging-hundreds-millions-more-comed-power [03:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chicagobusiness.com | Retail suppliers charging hundreds of millions more than ComEd for power | Crain's Chicago Business [03:24] schestowitz-TR Communist Education :-) [03:26] DaemonFC "Households in ComEds service territory that bought their power from alternative suppliers collectively paid $324 million more than they would have with ComEd in the year that ended May 31, according to a July 30 report by the Illinois Commerce Commissions Office of Retail Market Development. On average each household customer that ditched ComEd paid $323 more for electricity in that year than they would have if theyd done nothing. [03:26] DaemonFC " [03:26] DaemonFC Electricity Choice! [03:26] techrights-news "Last week the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved an interchangeable biosimilar to insulin glargine, an approval notable because it is the first approved interchangeable biosimilar product." We we recently saw, #corruption too can buy #fda approval https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/08/fda-approves-first-interchangeable-biological-product.html [03:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: FDA Approves First Interchangeable Biological Product [03:27] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Yeah, those other companies buy you off with a $50 gift card and a 3 month discount. [03:27] DaemonFC Then they lock you into a two year term or something at an outrageous rate. [03:28] DaemonFC Or scammers working on commission get your ComEd account number and forge your name. [03:28] techrights-news " #LG was willfully infringing the Mondis/Hitachi U.S. Patent No. 7,475,180. Post-verdict, the district court denied LGs motions for #JMOL on infringement and validity and then later granted a new trial on damages and willfulness." https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/timing-interlocutory-appeal.html [03:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Timing of Interlocutory Appeal in Patent Cases | Patently-O [03:31] techrights-news It seems increasingly apparent that propaganda mill "Managing Intellectual Property" is just selling site space to litigation firms, hardly even hiding that anymore (sponsored "articles"). No wonder so many writers left. https://www.managingip.com/article/b1t0x0pl47bbqb/assessing-the-licensing-environment-of-seps-in-japan [03:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Assessing the licensing environment of SEPs in Japan | Managing Intellectual Property [03:31] XRevan86 schestowitz: Phew, I was afraid of ComCast Education [03:33] techrights-news Large #pharmaceuticals or #monopolies get whatever they want, as usual: #France Implements New Early Access Pathway https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS144584/France-Implements-New-Early-Access-Pathway-For-Innovative-Medicines [03:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS144584/France-Implements-New-Early-Access-Pathway-For-Innovative-Medicines ) [03:34] techrights-news When they say "Sources" they mean "SPONSORS" (of this #$propaganda mill or de facto lobbying site in 'news' clothing) https://www.managingip.com/article/b1t0g18vgbhl0n/badfaith-trademark-law-one-step-forward-one-step-back [03:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Bad-faith trademark law: one step forward, one step back | Managing Intellectual Property [03:35] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: coming soon? [03:35] blitzed If anyone is bored; 1 (929) 299-1269 aNONradio Open VOIP; http://anonradio.net/listen/ [03:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anonradio.net | listen // aNONradio // [03:36] XRevan86 schestowitz: 'tis a spammer or legit? [03:36] schestowitz-TR blitzed? [03:36] schestowitz-TR legit [03:36] XRevan86 I see a phone number and I just assume. [03:37] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: "1 (929) 299-1269 phone me, I'm so horrrny" [03:37] schestowitz-TR not "Open VOIP" [03:37] schestowitz-TR until VOIP turns you on or something [03:37] schestowitz-TR anonradio sounds familiar [03:38] XRevan86 http://img1.joyreactor.com/pics/post/comics-call-fun-488021.jpeg [03:38] XRevan86 Very old but also very topical :) [03:38] techrights-news This past week if not month #canonical and #ubuntu has been virtually invisible. I suppose they're too busy shilling #vista and #wsl to actually advertise or promote #gnu #linux http://techrights.org/2021/07/09/canonical-ubuntu-microsoft/ [03:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Canonical Dooms the Ubuntu Brand to Appease Microsoft | Techrights [03:39] techrights-news Apple's [excuse] photo scanning tools criticised by privacy experts https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/technology/2021/08/apple-s-child-abuse-photo-scanning-tools-criticised-by-privacy-experts.html [03:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newshub.co.nz | Apple's child abuse photo scanning tools criticised by privacy experts | Newshub [03:41] techrights-news Maybe quit calling every computer program "HEY HI"? https://www.managingip.com/article/b1t0hfz2bytx44/exclusive-india-recognises-ai-as-co-author-of-copyrighted-artwork When stenographers run 'the media'.... [03:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Exclusive: India recognises AI as co-author of copyrighted artwork | Managing Intellectual Property [03:42] AdmFubar https://therecord.media/security-tools-showcased-at-black-hat-usa-2021/ [03:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-therecord.media | Security tools showcased at Black Hat USA 2021 - The Record by Recorded Future [03:42] XRevan86 More Deny Hats [03:42] techrights-news #twitter #socialcontrolmedia and mobs against #justice and #law https://www.law.com/2021/08/04/whats-next-trial-tweets-before-testimony-two-rulings-spark-ai-patent-optimism-activision-blizzard-lawsuits-are-a-major-moment-for-gaming/ [03:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What's Next: Trial Tweets Before Testimony? + Two Rulings Spark AI Patent Optimism + Activision Blizzard Lawsuits Are a Major Moment for Gaming | Law.com [03:43] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: is AllowHurst attending? [03:44] schestowitz-TR he moved back to Georgia [03:44] schestowitz-TR not that far from Vegas anymore... [03:44] XRevan86 schestowitz: Near scientes? [03:44] schestowitz-TR oh, his he there? [03:44] XRevan86 Unless he moved he was in Georgia, yes. [03:45] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC will soon start moaning again aboud Deny People [03:45] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: iirc, he was around costa rica [03:45] schestowitz-TR and then somewhere like georgia the country [03:45] schestowitz-TR not the state [03:45] XRevan86 schestowitz: I meant the country, yes (: [03:45] schestowitz-TR AllowHurst studied in Rice (TX) iirc [03:45] schestowitz-TR but is from GA, USA [03:46] DaemonFC DaemonFC will soon start moaning again aboud Deny People [03:46] DaemonFC Denying all responsibility for their actions. [03:47] XRevan86 schestowitz: Huh, like a prophet. [03:47] AdmFubar I'm off to view the insides of my eyelids... [03:47] schestowitz-TR gn [03:47] AdmFubar night all [03:47] schestowitz-TR 0/ [03:47] XRevan86 AdmFubar: Have a good one. [03:48] AdmFubar thanks [03:48] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has left #techrights [03:50] techrights-news "As a member state of the EU, trademark protection in #Bulgaria is often achieved through the registration of an European Union Trademark." https://www.mondaq.com/trademark/1099476/the-advantages-of-registering-a-national-bulgarian-trademark #corruption in #euipo notwithstanding: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EUIPO [03:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | The Advantages Of Registering A National Bulgarian Trademark - Intellectual Property - Bulgaria [03:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EUIPO - Techrights [03:50] XRevan86 schestowitz: No one's written through the bridge in a long-long time. I'm almost upset that this bridge configuration is going to waste. [03:52] techrights-news Notice how #law / #litigation firms write 'the news' and are hailing countries only when they serve litigation agenda, e.g. "steps forward to catch up" ( #lobbying disguised as "news") https://www.bioworld.com/articles/510124-canadas-patent-system-steps-forward-to-catch-up?v=preview [03:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Canadas patent system steps forward to catch up | 2021-08-04 | BioWorld [03:52] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: maybe freenode will wake up and realise sasl is a mistake [03:52] schestowitz-TR and make it optional [03:53] schestowitz-TR though it's probably too late by now [03:53] schestowitz-TR those who left won't reattempt a connection [03:54] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's a liability, no one except for some very select few will ever try to give it a chance. [03:55] techrights-news There is no such thing as "IP Law"; he means #patent #law and this decision serves to discredit the law as it rewards bots, like high-frequency 'trading' that's gaming financial markets https://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/patent/1099064/recent-developments-in-artificial-intelligence-and-ip-law-south-africa-grants-world39s-first-patent-for-ai-created-invention [03:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Recent Developments In Artificial Intelligence And IP Law: South Africa Grants World's First Patent For AI-Created Invention - Intellectual Property - Worldwide [03:56] XRevan86 schestowitz: And I don't mean it in a "bad reputation" sense, but in that it will cause mysery to those who go near it. [03:56] XRevan86 I misspelt "misery" again. [03:57] techrights-news "Lawyers spearheading the patent applications for #DABUS spoke to Managing IP" and of course they did not bother speaking to critics; that's what propaganda mills do. https://www.managingip.com/article/b1t0vm20d76mg7/this-week-in-ip-dabus-team-on-ai-wins-thin-gruel-for-oatly-nintendo-settles-patent-suit [03:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | This week in IP: DABUS team on AI wins, thin gruel for Oatly, Nintendo settles patent suit | Managing Intellectual Property [03:57] XRevan86 And people know it, so they won't. [03:58] schestowitz-TR freenode is collapsing very fast [03:58] schestowitz-TR for almost a month it stayed above 60k [03:59] schestowitz-TR that mostly changed when the culls started [03:59] schestowitz-TR painting them as obv. untrusted actors ● Aug 09 [04:00] XRevan86 No one likes those who silence their critics. [04:00] techrights-news Totally stuffed or stacked by law firms https://patentlyo.com/hricik/2021/08/september-dennis-important.html [04:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | A September CLE in Salt Lake City with Dennis, Me, and Other Important People! | Patently-O [04:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [04:01] techrights-ipfs-bot Gemini requests since start of month: 70504 total Total pages: 37005 Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 2 months 0 days ago [04:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 1.9 GB TotalOut: 441 MB [04:01] techrights-ipfs-bot New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [04:02] techrights-news When the media and debates are hijacked by one particular lobby group people will gradually walk away and the echo chamber see its cause floundering (lack of public support), quite frankly as usual. [04:03] techrights-news Stacked panel from #IBM front group for #patent extremism https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/08/ipo-webinar-on-common-ip-pitfalls-in-energy-industry-joint-ventures-and-collaborations.html [04:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: IPO Webinar on Common IP Pitfalls in Energy Industry Joint Ventures and Collaborations [04:04] techrights-news "A stacked panel, on the other hand, is like a stacked deck: it is packed with people who, on the face of things, should be neutral, but who are in fact strong supporters of our technology." - #Microsoft http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/comes-3096.pdf [04:05] techrights-ipfs-bot QmXBU6oKqgN1Lsd8vCX9iBHiUi66fm8iL3uXsJgyh4LH33 [04:05] techrights-news #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, August 08, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [04:06] techrights-news #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.48 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 58.18 swarm size (avg): 277.01 [04:08] XRevan86 schestowitz: Someone marked freenode as historical on Wikipedia. [04:08] techrights-news We ought not let #ubuntu be the 'default' #gnu #linux distro any longer. http://techrights.org/2021/07/09/canonical-ubuntu-microsoft/ [04:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Canonical Dooms the Ubuntu Brand to Appease Microsoft | Techrights [04:08] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: too early [04:08] schestowitz-TR there is still pulse [04:09] XRevan86 schestowitz: Ye're confusing pulse with agony. [04:09] schestowitz https://stallman.org/rss/rss.xml still broken [04:09] schestowitz and the front page shows an empty list at https://stallman.org/ [04:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Richard Stallman's Personal Page [04:10] schestowitz XRevan86: wow [04:10] schestowitz 28 online in #techrights [04:10] XRevan86 schestowitz: But to be serious, ye're right, one can still connect to it, so it's not fully dead yet. [04:10] schestowitz it was 33 yesterday [04:10] schestowitz cubexyz is still there [04:11] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:11] XRevan86 Is cybrNaut there? [04:12] XRevan86 He expressed some views that make me concerned for his IRC presence :) [04:13] XRevan86 stop trying to sink with the ship, it's not going to do any good. [04:13] schestowitz wallacer vallor slep rsheftel1435 psychedeliacrat mekkis lockeanarchist jkl includeals fleursdumal ebin brabo alynpost we're at #techrights in at irc.techrights.org (the IRC client needs to be configured to connect to it) in case freenode no longer lets you back in [04:13] schestowitz XRevan86: clearly some people just lurk [04:14] schestowitz and don't realise there are no access restrictions [04:14] schestowitz until they can no longer reconnect [04:14] schestowitz and they might give up trying to re-establish the connection [04:14] schestowitz IRC without anon access is no better than jabber [04:14] schestowitz actually, the technical feature set of jabber is better [04:14] schestowitz for irc speed of access and lack of barriers was an advantage [04:15] schestowitz irc.com takes away the selling points [04:15] XRevan86 XMPP's connections are distributed, they are more anonymous in some senses. [04:15] schestowitz and markets itself as broadening the reach of IRC? [04:15] schestowitz XRevan86: yes, that too [04:15] schestowitz but XMPP isn't just some 'pick a nickname' thing [04:16] schestowitz XRevan86: the upside is that the channel in LC is dead [04:16] schestowitz more so than FN [04:16] schestowitz so we seem to have fully consolidated here [04:16] XRevan86 Yes, albeit IRC doesn't have quite the low barrier people want to think it does, because it has absolutely no backlog. [04:16] schestowitz and thus cannot be suppressed by entities which DO NOT CARE about our vocation [04:17] schestowitz XRevan86: it can have that [04:17] schestowitz see /topic [04:17] XRevan86 schestowitz: techrights.org/irc is an interesting solution, yes [04:17] schestowitz thanks [04:17] XRevan86 I actually made use of it :) [04:17] schestowitz the medium itself is highly suitable for whispering [04:18] schestowitz like dropping of info [04:18] schestowitz XRevan86: I make use of it if I drop my connection [04:18] schestowitz I used to do that from the CLI [04:18] schestowitz then all the same logs go to ipfs, gemini, text, and html [04:19] XRevan86 biboumi doesn't automatically reconnect, and irc.techrights.org dropped me two times. [04:19] schestowitz maybe at some stage we can look into ha [04:19] schestowitz h..a. [04:19] XRevan86 high-availability / load-balancing I assume. [04:20] MinceR ergo can also do some sort of backlog, iirc [04:20] schestowitz MinceR: didn't see it in the manuals [04:20] XRevan86 MinceR: DaemonFC makes use of that, indeed. [04:20] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ergoirc-manuals.txt [04:21] schestowitz backlog and scrollback not mentioned in the text [04:21] XRevan86 But that requires some know-how. So not for a complete novice. [04:22] XRevan86 schestowitz: "History" [04:22] schestowitz we can implement our own enhancements [04:22] schestowitz over time [04:22] schestowitz " * Ergo stores message history for later retrieval." [04:23] schestowitz "1. The [IRCv3 chathistory specification](https://ircv3.net/specs/extensions/chathistory) offers the most fine-grained control over history replay. It is supported by [Kiwi IRC](https://github.com/kiwiirc/kiwiirc), and hopefully other clients soon.' [04:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircv3.net | `chathistory` Extension - IRCv3 [04:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - kiwiirc/kiwiirc: Next generation of the Kiwi IRC web client [04:23] schestowitz "1. You can manually request history using `/history #channel 1h` (the parameter is either a message count or a time duration). (Depending on your client, you may need to use `/QUOTE history` instead.)" [04:23] schestowitz oh [04:23] schestowitz it works [04:23] schestowitz Try /history #techrights 1h [04:24] schestowitz it works! [04:24] schestowitz if only I knew... [04:24] XRevan86 The chathistory extension is actually interesting, because it is more universal and can be implemented transparently. [04:25] schestowitz 1. You can autoreplay a fixed number of lines (e.g., 25) each time you join a channel using `/msg NickServ set autoreplay-lines 25`. [04:25] schestowitz XRevan86: so now you have a way to play things back [04:25] schestowitz no web browser needed [04:25] XRevan86 I wonder how that affects the timestamps of the messages. [04:26] schestowitz it shows me old timestamps when I run /history #techrights 1h [04:26] schestowitz but maybe in other IRC clients the time will be bypassed by the client side [04:27] XRevan86 schestowitz: Regarding HA, I'm curious if ergo has *anything* for clustering. [04:28] alynpost/fn thank you schestowitz I'll make time this coming week to connect directly to irc.techrights.org. [04:28] *XRevan86 found an explicit "no" in the documentation. Well-documented. [04:28] techrights-news #Article17 contributes to the narrative of #eu working for US http://copyrightblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/07/26/what-member-states-can-learn-from-the-ag-opinion-on-article-17/ [04:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-copyrightblog.kluweriplaw.com | What Member States can learn from the AG opinion on Article 17 - Kluwer Copyright Blog [04:29] techrights-news What can we learn about #Copyright #History from Whistlers #Portrait of Lady Eden? https://www.create.ac.uk/blog/2021/07/26/what-can-we-learn-about-copyright-history-from-whistlers-portrait-of-lady-eden/ [04:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.create.ac.uk | What can we learn about Copyright History from Whistlers Portrait of Lady Eden? CREATe [04:30] schestowitz Ariadne: do we have offisite backups of the ergo container? [04:30] schestowitz alynpost +1 [04:32] Ariadne no [04:33] techrights-news "As most readers must be aware by now, the Parliamentary Standing Committee Report on Indias IP regime has revealed a problematic, maximalist approach to IP [sic] protection" https://spicyip.com/2021/07/parliamentary-standing-committee-and-copyright-reform-one-step-forward-three-steps-back.html [04:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Parliamentary Standing Committee and Copyright Reform: One Step Forward, Three Steps Back | SpicyIP [04:35] techrights-news #india #selfharm for the #patent #cartel https://spicyip.com/2021/08/parliamentary-standing-committee-report-on-ipr-tipping-the-scales-of-patent-law-part-i.html #colonialism [04:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Parliamentary Standing Committee Report on IPR: Tipping the Scales of Patent Law? Part I | SpicyIP [04:37] techrights-news Unnecessary overuse of the misnomer and propaganda term "IP"; just say patents instead https://spicyip.com/2021/08/parliamentary-standing-committee-report-on-ipr-tipping-the-scales-of-patent-law-part-ii.html [04:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Parliamentary Standing Committee Report on IPR: Tipping the Scales of Patent Law? Part II | SpicyIP [04:38] techrights-news "I am sure many would have exclaimed with similar sentiment after reading the suggestions of the recent Parliamentary Standing Committee Report on Review of IPR regime in India, which suggests re-institution of #IPAB ." https://spicyip.com/2021/07/back-from-the-dead-parliamentary-committee-on-ip-suggests-against-scrapping-of-ipab.html [04:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Back from the Dead? Parliamentary Committee on IP suggests against scrapping of IPAB | SpicyIP [04:39] techrights-news Of course nasty #ibm has been #lobbying FOR #swpats in #india http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Software_Patents_in_India [04:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Patents in India - Techrights [04:40] schestowitz Ariadne: there's some stuff there like user accounts that merits backup, I think, and I'm not sure which hv-side tools can help copy files across [04:42] DaemonFC This infrastructure bill will turn into a disaster. [04:42] DaemonFC The government pouring stimulus that's not paid for into an economy that's on the verge of hyperinflation. [04:42] DaemonFC This will not end well. [04:43] techrights-news "This is example of typical click-bait spreading false truths post only posting part of the story as a headline. They arent mandating vaccines. They are requiring them for entry into an office." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cecaatd#replies #ibm #redhat [04:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Red Hat issues vaccine mandate for employees - post regarding IBM layoffs [04:44] DaemonFC I'm considering possibly buying more I-Bonds next time the rate resets though. [04:44] DaemonFC I expect them to be near 6%. [04:44] DaemonFC The ones I purchased back in February finally went up to 3.54. [04:46] techrights-news 0 A.D. Alpha 25 Released! Implement Single Player Campaigns [Ubuntu PPA] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154283#comment-30494 [04:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: GNU/Linux Gaming Predictions, Valve Steam Deck,and 0 A.D. | Tux Machines [04:48] techrights-news "This final section of The Last Battle is deeply flawed, rather arrogant, a little bizarre, and involves more lectures on theology than precise description, but I still love it." https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/reviews/books/0-02-044210-6.html [04:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eyrie.org | Review: The Last Battle by C.S. Lewis [04:51] techrights-news #eff should just urge everybody to #deleteFacebook instead, then preferably block the servers of the company https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/01/how-change-your-facebook-activity-settings [04:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | How to Change Your Off-Facebook Activity Settings | Electronic Frontier Foundation [04:52] techrights-news 10 years ago: #WikiLeaks #Assange : #Facebook Is ";Appalling Spying Machine" - The Atlantic https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/05/wikileaks-assange-facebook-is-appalling-spying-machine/238225/ #theatlantic [04:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | WikiLeaks' Assange: Facebook Is 'Appalling Spying Machine' - The Atlantic ● Aug 09 [05:01] schestowitz-TR oh, my email autoresponder still mentions freenode [05:01] schestowitz-TR I need to fix that [05:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [05:04] DaemonFC But Freenode is IRC. [05:04] DaemonFC For ~9,000 users and falling. [05:04] DaemonFC Why you make Freenode hurt you? [05:05] DaemonFC Freenode only wanna love you! [05:05] DaemonFC PIA is getting sketchy. [05:05] DaemonFC My bank and Amazon both block it now. [05:05] schestowitz-TR wow [05:05] schestowitz-TR screenshot? [05:06] DaemonFC No screenshot. The sites just won't load while I'm on any PIA server. [05:06] schestowitz-TR it's worth reporting on [05:06] schestowitz-TR ah, that is different [05:06] DaemonFC This happened when they switched to FreedomTech Solutions for all of their US servers. [05:06] schestowitz-TR I thought you could not make payments for PIA [05:07] DaemonFC Oh no, you can still do that. [05:07] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: can you research this FreedomTech Solutions thing? [05:07] DaemonFC It's kind of difficult to look into this because their site is so non-specific as to what they really do. [05:07] DaemonFC It's a bunch of buzzwords and gobbledygook. [05:07] schestowitz https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11080278 [05:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk | FREEDOMTECH SOLUTIONS LIMITED - Overview (free company information from Companies House) [05:08] schestowitz goes 14 years back: https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11080278/filing-history [05:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk | FREEDOMTECH SOLUTIONS LIMITED - Filing history (free information from Companies House) [05:08] schestowitz have a look,DaemonFC [05:08] schestowitz see who or what you pay for [05:09] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.83 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 59.76 swarm size (avg): 276.94 [05:09] DaemonFC Inderjiit Singh Kambo [05:10] DaemonFC Did a search. Heh. [05:10] DaemonFC Well, it seems like something big happened at PIA and not for the better. 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[05:16] schestowitz see page 4 [05:17] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:18] techrights-news #PIA , the #VPN that owns #freenode and is now owned by #kape (malicious software firm), now routes all US #internet traffic through this company https://tinyurl.com/ey43u3h8 [05:21] schestowitz-TR Thank you for flying KAPE, aka PIA [05:22] techrights-news This is the company that handles all the US traffic of #PIA (maybe because the US govt. took Kape to court, though one can also guess) https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11080278/filing-history [05:25] techrights-news The company that handles all the US traffic of #PIA is without assets anymore https://tinyurl.com/juctszye #freenode #kape [05:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/document-api-images-live.ch.gov.uk/docs/Lxzv5ZeVdxOMjCHBxkHGZ7Vt83oXZXWyZr_aJcsmoI8/application-pdf?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=ASIAWRGBDBV3MCKPOXPO%2F20210809%2Feu-west-2%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20210809T042413Z&X-Amz-Expires=60&X-Amz-Security-Token=IQoJb3JpZ2luX2VjEIL%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FwEaCWV1LXdlc3QtMiJHMEUCIQDtCrjHZ5T6WPvFTupEraxlDcW%2Fiw ... [05:26] techrights-news The government keeps telling us that #vpn users are dodgy, but I'd argue they're nowhere as dodgy as the VPN companies. [05:28] techrights-news "Piano Factorys director noted around 2001 that nobody was making #Schiedmayer brand #pianos any longer and assumed the mark must have been abandoned." https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/mining-history-brand.html [05:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Mining History for your Brand Name | Patently-O [05:30] techrights-news Latest in the madness of trying to monopolise life through #CRISPR 'invention' https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/08/broad-files-contingent-preliminary-motion-no-2-in-crispr-interference.html #patent #monopolies #patents [05:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Broad Files Contingent Preliminary Motion No. 2 in CRISPR Interference [05:58] *ornxka has quit (*.net *.split) [05:58] *zoobab has quit (*.net *.split) [05:59] *ornxka (~ornxka@user/ornxka) has joined #techrights [05:59] *zoobab (zoobab@vic.ffii.org) has joined #techrights ● Aug 09 [06:04] *L0j1k has quit (*.net *.split) [06:05] *L0j1k- (~L0j1k@irc.tckrsystems.net) has joined #techrights [06:06] *cbrtrnx[m] has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [06:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.85 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 87.93 swarm size (avg): 276.89 [06:28] techrights-news An #EPO Administrative Council Expos Part III: A Longtime Associate of the Doyen http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/macedonia-votes-for-sale/ #Techrights #europe #corruption #patents | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/09/macedonia-votes-for-sale/ [06:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | An EPO Administrative Council Expos Part III: A Longtime Associate of the Doyen | Techrights ● Aug 09 [07:05] *cbrtrnx[m] (~cbrtrnxma@2001:470:69fc:105::3f7a) has joined #techrights [07:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.43 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 116.60 swarm size (avg): 276.86 [07:13] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:25] techrights-news [Meme] Competition for the Doyen (in the Boardroom or the Bedroom?) http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/doyen-of-croatia/ #epo #croatia #corruption #patent #nepotism [07:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Competition for the Doyen (in the Boardroom or the Bedroom?) | Techrights [07:41] techrights-news [Meme] Stop Giving Code to Microsofts #GitHub http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/gnu-linux-as-hostage/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/09/gnu-linux-as-hostage/ [07:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Stop Giving Code to Microsofts GitHub | Techrights [07:43] techrights-news #DeleteGithub page to reach 100k views soon. We've barely even linked to it. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [07:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [07:44] techrights-news Have #bbc and #guardian repudiated #billgates for his abuses yet? Or are they licking his boots some more for the next round of #bribery (they're long been bribed by him, with conditions)? [07:47] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Anti-Piracy Firm Asks Google to Block 127.0.0.1 https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-firm-asks-google-to-block-127-0-0-1-210808/ [07:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Anti-Piracy Firm Asks Google to Block 127.0.0.1 * TorrentFreak [07:54] *alextee has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:55] techrights-news NEWS #AralBalkan #privacy #Apple is trying to redefine what it means to violate your privacy. 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Aral Balkan [07:57] techrights-news #NorthMacedonia was immensely gratifying for #Battistelli and it allowed him to indulge his personal vanity because he usually got to rub shoulders with high level politicians rather than just mere civil servants in charge of the national IPO. http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/macedonia-votes-for-sale/ [07:58] techrights-news A culture of overt #nepotism goes beyond the #EPO . #eljkoTopi is alleged to have had an affair with #LjiljanaKuterovac (there are court documents detailing this extramarital relationship) http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/doyen-of-croatia/ [07:59] techrights-news Now that #Microsoft uses #GitHub to encourage #GPL violations its time to reassess the alleged safety of #outsourcing code to Microsoft http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/gnu-linux-as-hostage/ #deletegithub ● Aug 09 [08:04] techrights-news Latest #techrights videos (past 7 days) http://techrights.org/videos/ [08:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full Videos Index [08:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 17.83 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 68.75 swarm size (avg): 276.81 [08:09] techrights-news #apple #surveillance https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/an-honest-conversation-on-apple,:2 I wonder what excuses card-carry'i'ing cult members will make... [08:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | An honest conversation on Apple, hashing, & privacy with Daniel Smullen [08:10] techrights-news This is who danielsmullen is https://daniel-smullen.com/#pub [08:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-daniel-smullen.com | Daniel Smullen [08:11] techrights-news The U.S. Is Now Averaging 100,000 New #COVID19 Infections A Day https://text.npr.org/1025753258 #npr averages many bribes per day, too https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php [08:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | The U.S. Is Now Averaging 100,000 New COVID-19 Infections A Day [08:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cjr.org | Journalisms Gates keepers - Columbia Journalism Review [08:13] techrights-news #golug 2021 http://troubleshooters.com/linux/presentations/golug_software_guide_20210807.tgz #gnu #linux [08:14] techrights-news #microsoft is a huge liability. Those who do not delete everything from #windows to fake #email like Exchange/Outlook will pay dearly http://blog.orange.tw/2021/08/proxylogon-a-new-attack-surface-on-ms-exchange-part-1.html see how Microsoft embraced #racism as a PR strategy http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/ [08:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.orange.tw | Orange: A New Attack Surface on MS Exchange Part 1 - ProxyLogon! [08:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Weaponises (and Further Spreads) Racism to Distract From Its Own Incompetence (and Five Eyes Collusion for Back Door Access) | Techrights [08:15] schestowitz x https://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2021/08/07/faa-urges-airports-to-monitor-alcohol-intake.cnn [08:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Unruly passengers cause FAA to request airports monitor alcohol use - CNN Video [08:15] schestowitz # trying to distract from the bad treatment from the airlines and the tsa, [08:15] schestowitz # both of which stress out the passengers [08:21] techrights-news ##HowTo Enable Minimize, Maximize Window Buttons in elementary OS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154305 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [08:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Enable Minimize, Maximize Window Buttons in elementary OS | Tux Machines [08:31] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:31] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.cofree.coffee | A Brief Intro to Monad Transformers [09:18] techrights-news NEWS #JonUdell #Standards The Tao of #Unicode Sparklines https://blog.jonudell.net/2021/08/05/the-tao-of-unicode-sparklines/ [09:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jonudell.net | The Tao of Unicode Sparklines Jon Udell [09:22] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:23] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [09:23] techrights-news NEWS #TimesHigherEducation #Education Preventing student cheating will require more than HEY HI or legislation https://www.timeshighereducation.com/opinion/universities-can-cut-plagiarism-working-students-unions-raise-awareness-contract-cheating [09:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timeshighereducation.com | Preventing student cheating will require more than AI or legislation | Times Higher Education (THE) [09:24] wallacer schestowitz: I'm not idling lol [09:25] schestowitz-TR hi 0/ [09:25] wallacer :O instant reply [09:25] schestowitz-TR freenode is fast drying up [09:25] schestowitz-TR to the point where we might assume it can be decommisioned by year's end [09:26] techrights-news NEWS #CNBC #Hardware #Google is planning a new #SiliconValley campus with hardware hub, plans show https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/06/google-planning-silicon-valley-campus-hardware-lab.html [09:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Google planning Silicon Valley campus, hardware lab [09:26] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:26] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:26] techrights-news NEWS #India #Hardware #Google planning a huge hardware #RandD hub in Silicon Valley https://telanganatoday.com/google-planning-a-huge-hardware-rd-hub-in-silicon-valley [09:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telanganatoday.com | Google planning a huge hardware R&D hub in Silicon Valley [09:28] techrights-news #IRC Proceedings: Sunday, August 08, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/irc-log-080821/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/09/irc-log-080821/ [09:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Sunday, August 08, 2021 | Techrights [09:29] wallacer they kinda did it to themselves [09:29] wallacer I was on their side until they ruined themselves [09:29] wallacer why is beyond my understanding [09:29] schestowitz-TR at the point they banned and took over channels [09:30] techrights-news NEWS #taiwannews #taiwan #tw #china Chinese ICT products to be banned at #Taiwan s government facilities by end of year https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4266333 [09:30] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [09:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.taiwannews.com.tw | Chinese ICT products to be banned at Taiwans government facilities by end of year | Taiwan News | 2021-08-08 11:36:00 [09:30] schestowitz-TR wallacer: likely ego-tripping and lack of tact [09:30] schestowitz-TR if not insiders working against freenode/lee [09:30] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [09:30] schestowitz-TR apparently phanes/bagira was an in-house troublemaker [09:30] schestowitz-TR looking to settle persoanl scores [09:30] schestowitz-TR no vetting-> self-harm [09:31] wallacer tomaw is not really sane too on the libera side [09:31] wallacer IRC seems to be on a suicide path [09:31] schestowitz-TR it's free software [09:31] schestowitz-TR we can run it [09:31] schestowitz-TR but distros might stop packaging irc clients [09:31] wallacer the community optics aren't looking good [09:31] schestowitz-TR like they barely package gemini clients [09:36] techrights-news This is a badge of shame for #SouthAfrica , not an honour at all. It makes the country seem like it has no clue what the hell it's doing and how #patent #law works (or what it's for). https://www.businesstoday.in/technology/news/story/in-a-world-first-south-africa-accords-patent-to-an-artificial-intelligence-system-303609-2021-08-08 [09:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesstoday.in | In a world first, South Africa accords patent to an artificial intelligence system - BusinessToday [09:43] techrights-news Taking ideas to one's grave for the sake of money and power https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897949 [09:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-papers.ssrn.com | The Value in Secrecy by Camilla Alexandra Hrdy :: SSRN [09:45] techrights-news Today's #patent system is no longer about #innovation but #protectionism for large companies with tons of lousy and #fakepatents that favour a side with more legal budget https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/08/08/our-patent-system-is-broken-it-could-be-stifling-innovation/ #bezos like it as it is and controls this publication [09:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Our patent system is broken. And it could be stifling innovation. - The Washington Post [09:47] techrights-news Quit allowing the #litigation giants (and oligarchs they front for) paint their #Monopolies and #Protectionism with the "tolerance" brush. All that #greenwashing and #pinkwashing harms those who serve the REAL causes. [09:49] techrights-news 2021: we now have "open" and "green" and "gay-friendly" and "anti-racist" and "feminist" #patent #monopolies that kill people not rich enough to afford the monopolised treatment/medicine. #openwashing #greenwashing #pinkwashing [09:52] gustaf Gemini is really new [09:52] gustaf but yeah I lack a good client [09:52] gustaf lynx or w3m needs Gemini support [09:53] gustaf something that's familiar [09:53] schestowitz-TR tell them [09:53] schestowitz-TR it is easy to implement [09:53] schestowitz-TR and they have dozens of implementations they can fused into their project [09:53] schestowitz-TR *fuse [09:54] schestowitz-TR a crude implementation would be once day of coding and testing [09:55] gustaf https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/2020-09/msg00016.html [09:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.nongnu.org | Re: [Lynx-dev] Gemini Support? [09:55] techrights-news NEWS #Salon #Misinformation #Disinformation A terrifying new theory: #fakenews and #conspiracytheories as an evolutionary strategy https://www.salon.com/2021/08/08/a-terrifying-new-theory-fake-news-and-conspiracy-theories-as-an-evolutionary-strategy/ [09:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A terrifying new theory: Fake news and conspiracy theories as an evolutionary strategy | Salon.com [09:55] gustaf too much NIH [09:55] gustaf that's the lynx lead dev btw [09:56] gustaf people who are excited about Gemini don't want to hack ancient C code [09:56] gustaf they wanna use Rust [09:57] techrights-news 'Mike' #Bloomberg the oligarch has hired another patent maximalist, Matthew Bultman, to work as a reporter alongside the booster Susan Decker. They're more like lobbyists than journalists. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-06/apple-wins-ruling-voiding-patent-in-308-5-million-case [09:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? [09:58] gustaf doesn't look like w3m are interested either ● Aug 09 [10:00] techrights-news Good riddance to #fakepatents https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/supreme-court-of-canada-denies-amgen-7512296/ #uspto #patents #canada [10:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Supreme Court of Canada denies Amgen leave to appeal decision invalidating its filgrastim patent | Smart & Biggar - JDSupra [10:01] techrights-news "The employment agreement between professor Mohammed Islam and the university didn't automatically assign his #patents to it, and #Apple couldn't escape the case based on a lack of standing" https://www.reuters.com/legal/transactional/apple-must-face-apple-watch-patent-claims-fed-circ-affirms-2021-08-02/ [10:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple must face Apple Watch patent claims, Fed Circ. affirms | Reuters [10:02] techrights-news Reaffirming the fact that #swpats are #fakepatents https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/08/06/apple-challenges-patent-troll-targeting-maps-navigation #apple #patentTrolls #uspto [10:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple challenges patent troll targeting Maps navigation | AppleInsider [10:04] schestowitz-TR gustaf: there are implementations in many languages [10:04] schestowitz-TR we use bash and perl [10:08] techrights-news NEWS #uniToronto #Internet Some thoughts on new top-level domains being used for spam https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/spam/NewTLDsAndSpamForMe [10:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/spam/NewTLDsAndSpamForMe [10:09] schestowitz-TR gustaf: I can do C [10:09] schestowitz-TR but it's overkill for gemini [10:09] schestowitz-TR because gemini is really very simple [10:09] schestowitz-TR and CLI implementations do make sense [10:09] schestowitz-TR gemini is good for the environment [10:09] schestowitz-TR lowers transmission and client-side work [10:09] schestowitz-TR backups etc. [10:10] schestowitz-TR better than that laughable "dark mode" hype [10:14] schestowitz-TR surely a passing fad [10:14] schestowitz-TR what's better than dark mode? a SMART "dark mode" with HEY HI on the CLOWN [10:14] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@7bj8pchb5fk5e.irc) has joined #techrights [10:14] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [10:22] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:22] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:27] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [10:28] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [10:41] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:41] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:54] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [10:56] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [10:58] techrights-news Scrollback in Techrights IRC (4 Methods) http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/ircv3-irc-scrollback/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/09/ircv3-irc-scrollback/ [10:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Scrollback in Techrights IRC (4 Methods) | Techrights [10:59] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:59] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 09 [11:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 32.38 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 103.48 swarm size (avg): 276.71 [11:08] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: what was that url you got freenode graphs from? [11:21] *cow_2001 (~un@user/cow-2001/x-5712099) has joined #techrights [11:23] *cow_2001 has quit (Client Quit) [11:25] techrights-news [Meme] Freenode Down to 4-Digit Usercount (Down 90% Since May) http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/its-still-over-9000/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/09/its-still-over-9000/ [11:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Freenode Down to 4-Digit Usercount (Down 90% Since May) | Techrights [11:26] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [11:27] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [11:40] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:40] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:45] *inky_ (~inky@5.77.154.24) has joined #techrights [11:45] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [11:46] techrights-news Links 9/8/2021: Linux 5.14 RC5, SME Server 10.0 Reviewed http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/review-sme-server-10-0/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/09/review-sme-server-10-0/ [11:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 9/8/2021: Linux 5.14 RC5, SME Server 10.0 Reviewed | Techrights [11:49] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154307 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [11:54] techrights-news Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154308 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [11:58] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [11:58] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights ● Aug 09 [12:08] *inky_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:08] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:09] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:11] *inky_ (~inky@195.250.71.138) has joined #techrights [12:18] techrights-news For reasons unknown to anyone, #Freenode continues to destroy itself; mandating registration ( #IRCcom ) has halved the number of online users (running the /lusers command shows the output below) http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/its-still-over-9000/ #Techrights #Internet #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/09/its-still-over-9000/ [12:18] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [12:20] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [12:59] techrights-news [Meme] The Administrative Councils Strategy for Saving the EPO: Paying Up (Bribing) the Media and Lawyering Up #EPO Staff http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/epo-hiding-problems/ #corruption #europe #patents #bribery [12:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] The Administrative Councils Strategy for Saving the EPO: Paying Up (Bribing) the Media and Lawyering Up EPO Staff | Techrights [12:59] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 09 [13:00] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:01] schestowitz Scrolling up/back in #IRC (seeing things that happened while one was offline or after temporarily dropping the connection) is totally possible; herein we explain how thats done by the user (its implemented as per #IRCv3 specifications) http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/ircv3-irc-scrollback/ [13:04] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [13:06] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [13:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 17.50 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 102.93 swarm size (avg): 276.65 [13:15] techrights-news #AMD #FidelityFX Super Resolution (FSR) comes to the PlayStation 3 emulator RPCS3 | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/amd-fidelityfx-super-resolution-fsr-comes-to-the-playstation-3-emulator-rpcs3 #GamingOnLinux [13:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution (FSR) comes to the PlayStation 3 emulator RPCS3 | GamingOnLinux [13:16] blitzed !COFFEE [13:16] schestowitz-TR good luck? [13:16] techrights-news "Another tick in the box for #Wayland to eventually properly replace #X11 for all workloads, as the work on DRM lease protocol support aimed at VR has been merged in." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/wayland-gets-drm-lease-protocol-support-to-help-vr-on-linux [13:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wayland gets DRM lease protocol support to help VR on Linux | GamingOnLinux [13:18] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154309 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [13:19] techrights-news #Razer Peripherals Config App For Linux Polychromatic Sees First Major Stable Release In Three Years - #Linux Uprising Blog https://www.linuxuprising.com/2021/08/razer-peripherals-config-app-for-linux.html [13:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuprising.com | Razer Peripherals Config App For Linux Polychromatic Sees First Major Stable Release In Three Years - Linux Uprising Blog [13:20] blitzed hiya schestowitz-TR /0 [13:20] techrights-news "Nepos Games have announced that their city-builder Nebuchadnezzar, which was inspired by the likes of Pharaoh, will be getting another big free update on September 15." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/isometric-city-builder-nebuchadnezzar-gets-fire-crime-a-diseases-on-september-15 [13:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Isometric city-builder Nebuchadnezzar gets Fire, Crime & Diseases on September 15 | GamingOnLinux [13:21] techrights-news The #SteamDeck is already having a BIG impact. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLaHpCNQFUU #gnu #linux #games [13:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Steam Deck is already having a BIG impact. - YouTube [13:23] techrights-news #Mesa 21.0, Linux 5.11 Prepared For #Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Updates - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-20.04.3-LTS-Coming #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [13:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa 21.0, Linux 5.11 Prepared For Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Updates - Phoronix [13:34] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:34] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:40] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [13:41] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights ● Aug 09 [14:22] *psydruid has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:29] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:29] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:34] techrights-news #Games: Polychromatic, Nebuchadnezzar, and Steam Deck http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154310 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Polychromatic, Nebuchadnezzar, and Steam Deck | Tux Machines [14:34] techrights-news #Graphics: Mesa, Wayland, AMD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154311 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: Mesa, Wayland, AMD | Tux Machines [14:36] techrights-news #intel has been such a failure https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/08/09/intel-atom-x5-z8350-sbc-50-dollars/ [14:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Intel Atom x5-Z8350 SBC sells for as low as $50 shipped - CNX Software [14:37] techrights-news "This article demonstrates how to write a simplified static analyzer in Dyninst." https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/08/09/debugging-function-parameters-dyninst [14:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Debugging function parameters with Dyninst | Red Hat Developer [14:39] techrights-news "Plus how #PipeWire will improve day-to-day desktop life, Google's push for more kernel investments, and a lot more." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/145802/linux-action-news-201/ [14:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Linux Action News 201 | Jupiter Broadcasting [14:40] techrights-news NMState: A declarative networking config tool - Fedora Magazine https://fedoramagazine.org/nmstate-a-declarative-networking-config-tool/ #Fedora #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linuxmagazine [14:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | NMState: A declarative networking config tool - Fedora Magazine [14:41] techrights-news Forcing Linux system password changes with the #chage command | Enable Sysadmin https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/password-changes-chage-command #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux [14:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Forcing Linux system password changes with the chage command | Enable Sysadmin [14:42] techrights-news #enterprisersproject would be better off just avoiding this buzzword https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/8/devsecops-pitfalls [14:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 8 DevSecOps pitfalls to avoid | The Enterprisers Project [14:46] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [14:46] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [14:54] techrights-news My First Impression When Using Archcraft Linux! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154313 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | My First Impression When Using Archcraft Linux! | Tux Machines [14:55] techrights-news #IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154312 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [14:56] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [14:56] techrights-news The corrupt elements of the EPO have penetrated the Administrative Council, which was supposed to oversee the Office (and be able to remove risk) http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/epo-run-by-gangsters/ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption #EPO #Patents | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/09/epo-run-by-gangsters/ [14:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Corruption Virus at the EPO, Europes Largest and Most Important Patent Office | Techrights [14:57] techrights-news Maybe the Administrative Council will hold EPO management accountable. Or maybe not http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/epo-hiding-problems/ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption #EPO #Patents | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/09/epo-hiding-problems/ [14:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] The Administrative Councils Strategy for Saving the EPO: Paying Up (Bribing) the Media and Lawyering Up EPO Staff | Techrights [14:59] psydruid > [notice] The Steam Deck is already having a BIG impact. - YouTube [14:59] psydruid M$ shills are heavily complaining about "unfair competition" and "having an agenda" (LOL) from Valve in NL, I don't know how that is in so-called tech media around the world [14:59] techrights-news #ROS2 is #Ubuntu #GNU / #Linux based https://www.roboticstomorrow.com/news/2021/08/09/ros2-on-site-training-ros2-basics-ros2-nav2-manipulation-with-movelt2/17284/ [14:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ROS2 On-Site Training: ROS2 Basics + ROS2 Nav2 + Manipulation with Movelt2 | RoboticsTomorrow ● Aug 09 [15:00] schestowitz-TR psydruid: maybe Microsft sites wrote about it [15:00] schestowitz-TR very coy [15:01] techrights-news Seq is #GNU #coreutils rather than "Command in Linux" https://linuxhandbook.com/seq-command/ [15:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhandbook.com | Seq Command in Linux [Explained With Examples] [15:01] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [15:02] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:02] techrights-news #Ripgrep needs to #deletegithub https://www.linuxshelltips.com/ripgrep-search-tool-linux/ #ProprietarySoftware that promotes #racism http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/github-is-racism/ [15:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxshelltips.com | Ripgrep The Fastest Command Line Search Tool for Linux [15:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GitHub is Racism | Techrights [15:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.68 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 112.13 swarm size (avg): 276.62 [15:07] techrights-news Disappointing but not so shocking (given its history) to see #dedoimedo shilling some #microsoft #vapourware in 'howto' form. #vista11 #hype [15:10] techrights-news #Rav1e needs to #deletegithub https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Rav1e-0.5-Beta it also drags in #rustlang which is promoting and spreading #microsoft #racism http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/github-is-racism/ [15:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rav1e 0.5 Beta Released For This Rust-Written AV1 Encoder - Phoronix [15:10] techrights-news #Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154314 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [15:13] techrights-news Linux Release Roundup #21.32: Nitrux 1.5.1, GNOME Web Canary, and More New Releases http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154094#comment-30495 [15:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release Announcement: Nitrux 1.5.1 | Tux Machines [15:16] MinceR 09 103108 < wallacer> IRC seems to be on a suicide path [15:16] MinceR IRC isn't [15:16] MinceR major networks are [15:17] MinceR but the major networks have sucked for ages, so who cares [15:18] techrights-news Contribute to #OpenStreetMap from #surveillance devices with back doors (which you think you own) https://opensource.com/article/21/8/streetcomplete-quests [15:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Contribute to OpenStreetMap from your phone | Opensource.com [15:19] techrights-news PICO DSP is an #Arduino compatible #ESP32 development board for audio and DSP applications (Crowdfunding) https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/08/09/pico-dsp-arduino-esp32-development-board-audio-dsp/ [15:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | PICO DSP is an Arduino compatible ESP32 development board for audio and DSP applications (Crowdfunding) - CNX Software [15:20] techrights-news #RadeonSI Lands Regression Fix For ~10x Higher CPU Usage For Some Games http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154315 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RadeonSI Lands Regression Fix For ~10x Higher CPU Usage For Some Games | Tux Machines [15:21] techrights-news "Love #LibreOffice too? Want to help us spread the word about it, and other #freesw projects?" https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/08/09/community-member-monday-jesse-moreira/ [15:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | Community Member Monday: Jess Moreira - The Document Foundation Blog [15:23] techrights-news "The board runs #Linux on Qualcomm QCS603 IoT processor for [buzzword] and #computervision applications" https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/08/09/compact-h-265-4k-video-encoder-is-made-for-embedded-medical-and-military-applications/ [15:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Compact H.265 4K video encoder is made for embedded, medical, and military applications - CNX Software [15:25] *inky (~inky@5.77.173.147) has joined #techrights [15:25] techrights-news #Synopsys Looks To Remove Oldest ARC CPU Support From The Linux Kernel - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ARC750-Drop-Linux-Patches Synopsys are anti- #linux provocateurs and parasites with #microsoft connections http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Black_Duck [15:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Synopsys Looks To Remove Oldest ARC CPU Support From The Linux Kernel - Phoronix [15:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Black Duck - Techrights [15:26] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [15:27] techrights-news #SouthAfrica eager to show that it has the very dumbest #patent office in the world https://qz.com/africa/2044477/south-africa-grants-patent-to-an-ai-system-known-as-dabus/ also see http://techrights.org/wiki/Software_Patents_in_South_Africa [15:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com | South Africa grants patent to an AIsystem known as DABUS Quartz Africa [15:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Patents in South Africa - Techrights [15:29] techrights-news Does #SouthAfrica media even realise that this is a badge of shame? They got tricked or trolled into doing something phenomenally stupid. https://citizen.co.za/lifestyle/technology/2588709/dabus-south-africa-approved-the-worlds-first-ai-invented-patent/ [15:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-citizen.co.za | DABUS: South Africa approved the world's first AI-invented patent [15:31] techrights-news #Australia courts got rick-rolled and gave a go-ahead to something that makes them look like the world's joke, incapable of understanding they give #patents to bots because of stupid #buzzwords https://dcc.com/news-and-insights/one-small-step-for-man-one-giant-leap-for-ai-australian-court-finds-dabus-can-be-an-inventor/ [15:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dcc.com | One small step for man, one giant leap for AI: Australian Court finds DABUS can be an inventor - Davies Collison Cave [15:34] techrights-news This list self-nuke for promoting a #scam called #DuckDuckGo https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-deep-web-search-engines/ stop pushing this #microsoft #fraud ! They're tricking people into self-harm. http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/ [15:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | The 11 Best Deep Web Search Engines to Find What Google Can't - Make Tech Easier [15:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | Techrights [15:35] techrights-news Play #SNES SPC audio files from your browser using original hardware and Arduino | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/08/09/play-snes-spc-audio-files-from-your-browser-using-original-hardware-and-arduino/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking [15:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Play SNES SPC audio files from your browser using original hardware and Arduino | Arduino Blog [15:40] techrights-news Feeling Bored? You Can Play Tetris on the Linux Terminal http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154316 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Feeling Bored? You Can Play Tetris on the Linux Terminal | Tux Machines [15:41] techrights-news #Windows Update is technically a botnet of #malware and I fail to see why anybody with technical skill would allow such malicious programs on one's PC. #GNU #Linux is vastly better in every way. https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/windows-delivery-optimization.html [15:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | How to make Windows Update prioritize Delivery Optimization downloads [15:43] techrights-news Download mp3 files linked in a RSS podcast feed https://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/25469/download-mp3-files-linked-in-a-rss-podcast-feed [15:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commandlinefu.com | Download mp3 files linked in a RSS podcast feed Using grep, sort, xargs [15:44] techrights-news Ben Hutchings: #Debian LTS work, July 2021 https://www.decadent.org.uk/ben/blog/debian-lts-work-july-2021.html #gnu #linux [15:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.decadent.org.uk | Better living through software - Ben Hutchings's diary of life and technology [15:46] XRevan86 schestowitz: The graphs broke. [15:46] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [15:46] XRevan86 I think they were plotted with an unregistered bot as well. [15:47] techrights-news #FOSSlife wants us to think every software project is owned and controlled by #microsoft https://www.fosslife.org/study-analyzes-race-bias-software-development #deletegithub ... it is RACIST by design and it's Microsoft's fault: http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/github-is-racism/ [15:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | Study Analyzes Race Bias in Software Development [15:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GitHub is Racism | Techrights [15:49] techrights-news #SteamPlay tool #Luxtorpeda gets some needed upgrades and better KDE Plasma support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154317 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Steam Play tool Luxtorpeda gets some needed upgrades and better KDE Plasma support | Tux Machines [15:49] *inky (~inky@5.77.173.147) has joined #techrights [15:51] techrights-news Arch Linux, Clear Linux & Ubuntu Against #Vista10 / #Vapourware On Intel Rocket Lake http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154318 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arch Linux, Clear Linux & Ubuntu Against Windows 10/11 On Intel Rocket Lake | Tux Machines [15:52] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: I see... [15:52] *CrystalMath (~coderain@6mus5um4rz7dg.irc) has joined #techrights [15:52] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: anyway, see my meme, I ended up using /lusers [15:53] schestowitz-TR of the 9500 remaining users 2 are mine [15:53] schestowitz-TR and they are NOT registered [15:53] XRevan86 schestowitz: Ye should have at least one registered one, as ye are a chanop there. [15:53] schestowitz-TR 27 users online in FN #techrights ATM [15:54] schestowitz-TR some of them are the same people as people here [15:54] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: if it comes down to it, I might [15:54] schestowitz-TR right now all the activity there is 'imported' [15:54] schestowitz-TR so moderation is not needed [15:55] schestowitz-TR the channels are regisered by me [15:55] XRevan86 schestowitz: Also ye can configure NickServ to allow multiple connections from your nick both in here and on fleenode. [15:55] schestowitz-TR unless they intend to wipe off ALL users again... except those who signed up in irc.com [15:55] XRevan86 schestowitz: "the channels are regisered by me" well, yea, ye have registration. Ye can use it. [15:56] *XRevan86 can't help but share solutions, even for pointless problems. [15:56] XRevan86 * can't help myself but [15:57] schestowitz-TR a channel with zero activity has a value of nezo [15:57] schestowitz-TR zero [15:57] schestowitz-TR even if it has a million users [15:57] schestowitz-TR zero times million is still zero [15:58] schestowitz-TR a million people writing and reading nothing at all means nothing comes in, nothing comes out. zilch in, zilch out. [15:58] schestowitz-TR and this seems to be what freenode become in a matter of 2-3 months [15:59] schestowitz-TR *has become [15:59] schestowitz-TR it is amusing they report 22 servers on freenode [15:59] schestowitz-TR that's like 500 users per server [15:59] schestowitz-TR over-provisioned [15:59] schestowitz-TR unless it's some very small VM for each ● Aug 09 [16:00] schestowitz-TR maybe alex has lots of unused servers [16:00] schestowitz-TR shells.com expected more demand [16:00] schestowitz-TR and all the paid-for 'articles' and sponsored 'vloggers' or youtube 'influencers' don't 'deliver' [16:01] XRevan86 schestowitz: I assume they don't have donated servers anymore. [16:01] schestowitz-TR Empire that never was, in decline... [16:01] techrights-news "Have you completed #UnderMine h Might be time to jump back into this dungeon crawling action adventure as the 1.2 update is out now to celebrate a year since release." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/dungeon-crawling-action-adventure-undermine-gets-a-big-update-for-the-end-game [16:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dungeon crawling action adventure UnderMine gets a big update for the end-game | GamingOnLinux [16:02] XRevan86 schestowitz: Is it still above 9000? [16:03] *inky has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:03] techrights-news #DebDroidng needs to #deletegithub https://bkhome.org/news/202108/debdroid-ng-works-great.html #DebDroid ought not help #microsoft promote #racism http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/github-is-racism/ [16:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | DebDroid-ng works great [16:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GitHub is Racism | Techrights [16:03] XRevan86 https://tinyurl.com/ey43u3h8 access denied. [16:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/document-api-images-live.ch.gov.uk/docs/jSUi1tz5l42Dr5XmiXqIZMhOuWMbkbqYJetpcfFM7QA/application-pdf?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=ASIAWRGBDBV3EWUUMGO3%2F20210809%2Feu-west-2%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20210809T041418Z&X-Amz-Expires=60&X-Amz-Security-Token=IQoJb3JpZ2luX2VjEIP%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FwEaCWV1LXdlc3QtMiJIMEYCIQDl6cMufM6TejtNXy1MDupAjE2IMorP ... [16:04] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:04] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:04] *Techrights-sec2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:04] *libertybox_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:04] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:04] schestowitz * Current global users: 9490 Max: 22832 [16:04] schestowitz 5 hours ago: [16:05] schestowitz * Current global users: 9561 Max: 22832 [16:05] schestowitz 71 users fewer [16:05] XRevan86 So about 300 users a day. [16:05] schestowitz in % terms that would like like 710 fewer than 95,000 [16:05] *inky (~inky@37.186.117.147) has joined #techrights [16:06] schestowitz number of servers: 27 [16:06] schestowitz so make that like 400:1 users:servers ratio [16:06] schestowitz 9 operators [16:06] XRevan86 schestowitz: Should reach DALnet by the end of the week. [16:06] schestowitz * There are 1097 users and 8393 invisible on 27 servers [16:07] schestowitz might that mean 1100 unregistered? [16:07] schestowitz [16:03] https://tinyurl.com/ey43u3h8 access denied. [16:07] schestowitz wow, did they configure aws to block russia? [16:08] schestowitz because... that would be kind of racist, methinks [16:08] schestowitz esp. for a government agency [16:08] schestowitz we have a PM called Borus with Estonia roots [16:09] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [16:09] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [16:10] *libertybox_ (~schestowitz_log@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [16:10] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [16:11] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [16:11] XRevan86 schestowitz: TechrightsBot-tr also showed 403. Unless it's in Russia :). The link probably expired. [16:12] techrights-news #Planner: A Beautiful #FreeSW Task Management App http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154319 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Planner: A Beautiful Open-Source Task Management App | Tux Machines [16:12] XRevan86 Although, TechrightsBot-tr showed 403 hours ago too, hm. [16:13] *libertybox_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:13] schestowitz-TR does it work from the landing page/ [16:14] schestowitz-TR maybe you need to enter the page for a cookie firsta [16:14] schestowitz-TR and then aws uses a session id [16:14] schestowitz-TR https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11080278/filing-history [16:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk | FREEDOMTECH SOLUTIONS LIMITED - Filing history (free information from Companies House) [16:14] *libertybox_ (~schestowitz_log@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [16:14] schestowitz-TR follow links from there [16:15] techrights-news #WordPress 5.8 and #DigitalOcean Droplets http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154320 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | WordPress 5.8 and DigitalOcean Droplets | Tux Machines [16:15] XRevan86 schestowitz: Which one? [16:16] XRevan86 And yea, those are definitely temporary links. [16:17] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:19] techrights-news #BittersweetBirthday brings a mix of a boss-rush adventure with exploration | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/bittersweet-birthday-brings-a-mix-of-a-boss-rush-adventure-with-exploration #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [16:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bittersweet Birthday brings a mix of a boss-rush adventure with exploration | GamingOnLinux [16:19] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [16:21] techrights-news Historical Strategy Game #0AD Alpha 25 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154283#comment-30496 [16:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: GNU/Linux Gaming Predictions, Valve Steam Deck,and 0 A.D. | Tux Machines [16:23] *schestowitz-TR has quit (connection closed) [16:23] techrights-news #HPC Efficiency Gurus Grapple with AMDs RAPL https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/08/09/hpc-efficiency-gurus-grapple-with-amds-rapl/ #nextplatform | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/09/#latest [16:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nextplatform.com | HPC Efficiency Gurus Grapple with AMDs RAPL [16:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [16:24] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [16:25] techrights-news #google gives some money to #gnome and the work goes to racist #microsoft #github https://dnuka.github.io/gsoc21-internship-update.html #deletegithub [16:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnuka.github.io | GSoC 21: GNOME/libsecret project update [16:25] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154321 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [16:26] techrights-news Red Hat #OpenShift helps customers meet demands faster https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-openshift-helps-customers-meet-demands-faster #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux [16:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Red Hat OpenShift helps customers meet demands faster [16:27] techrights-news This only ever works on a small set of people http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/08/guest-post-chinas-path-to-regulating.html [16:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Guest post] Chinas path to regulating facial recognition technology - The IPKat [16:29] techrights-news #Litigation firm #UDL pushing illegal #softwarepatents ; but it is supported by the bunch of gangsters that runs the #EPO and threatens/besieged judges when the question comes up Litigation firm UDL pushing illegal software patents; but it is supported by the bunch of gangsters that runs the EPO and threatens/besieged judges when the question comes up #swpats [16:30] techrights-news #Litigation firm #UDL pushing illegal #softwarepatents ; but it is supported by the bunch of gangsters that runs the #EPO and threatens/besieged judges when the question comes up https://www.udl.co.uk/insights/how-to-patent-autonomous-vehicle-simulations #swpats [16:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.udl.co.uk | How to patent autonomous vehicle simulations [16:33] techrights-news #Diamyd fails to take into account the fact that today's #EPO grants lots of #fakepatents that don't have even the slimmest chance of withstanding challenge in court (enforcement), they're just some piece of paper https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/diamyd-medical-secures-precision-medicine-patent-for-prevention-and-treatment-of-autoimmune-diabetes-301350897.html see http://techrights.org/2021/03/25/epo-potential-improvements/ [16:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | Diamyd Medical secures precision medicine patent for prevention and treatment of autoimmune diabetes [16:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Staff Representation Again Warns About Collapse in Patent Quality (Due to Bad Management), Suggests Potential Improvements | Techrights [16:33] *alextee (~alextee@bqaiucian72fn.irc) has joined #techrights [16:37] techrights-news #Splitgate continues expanding server capacity and smashing records | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/splitgate-continues-expanding-server-capacity-and-smashing-records #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [16:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Splitgate continues expanding server capacity and smashing records | GamingOnLinux [16:38] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/21070153 [16:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5637489) [16:38] techrights-news Best #Games for #GNU #Linux That Work Natively - Linux Stans https://linuxstans.com/best-games-for-linux/ #linuxstans [16:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxstans.com | Best Games for Linux That Work Natively - Linux Stans [16:39] schestowitz MinceR: but can Tom sink the largest IRC network in 2 months? [16:40] MinceR \_()_/ [16:40] techrights-news Sometimes, it falls upon a generation to be great. You can be that great generation. Let your greatness blossom. Late former president Nelson Mandela. https://www.iol.co.za/news/nkalakatha-of-the-week-south-africans-showing-ubuntu-95dfd794-356e-4e0c-a8f2-40487b5036eb [16:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iol.co.za | Nkalakatha of the week: South Africans showing Ubuntu [16:42] techrights-news #OpenHardware and Devices With GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154322 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware and Devices With GNU/Linux | Tux Machines [16:43] *libertybox_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:45] *libertybox_ (~schestowitz_log@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [16:45] techrights-news #SitePoint is now spamming racist #ProprietarySoftware of #Microsoft ... I've long seen that site shilling Microsoft, but encouraging #GPLViolations is a new low. [16:46] techrights-news Wait, what? #facebook does even WORSE things https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/apple-iphone-photo-scanning-messages-whatsapp-privacy-b1899360.html e.g. https://techcrunch.com/2020/04/03/before-suing-nso-group-facebook-allegedly-sought-their-software-to-better-spy-on-users/ [16:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | WhatsApp and privacy experts sound alarm about privacy implications of new Apple photo scanning feature | The Independent [16:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Before suing NSO Group, Facebook allegedly sought their software to better spy on users TechCrunch [16:48] techrights-news By "HEY HI" they just mean "computer programs" https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tech-prison/us-prisons-mull-ai-to-analyze-inmate-phone-calls-idUSKBN2FA0OO [16:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.S. prisons mull AI to analyze inmate phone calls | Reuters [16:49] techrights-news PDF is bad for #accessibility so if you value people with disability you will use a different format altogether https://www.valdostadailytimes.com/news/business/the-pdf-ua-foundation-launches-new-pdf-accessibility-checker-pac-2021/article_62f8ffc9-0c46-531e-aa0a-44a5db52e9d0.html [16:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The PDF/UA Foundation Launches New PDF Accessibility Checker PAC 2021 | Business | valdostadailytimes.com [16:50] techrights-news "Today's Internet is dominated by Javascript, WebRTC, and many other frameworks that make sites too heavy to use on old hardware." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006990.html [16:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini Digest, Vol 25, Issue 5 [16:50] techrights-news "Just to say, that the expectations inherent within a fully functioning government and its range* of monopolies/monosopolies COULD permit government services to be exclusively provided by Gemini." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006991.html [16:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini Digest, Vol 25, Issue 5 [16:51] techrights-news #Games: UnderMine, Bittersweet Birthday, Splitgate, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154323 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: UnderMine, Bittersweet Birthday, Splitgate, and More | Tux Machines [16:57] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:57] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:58] techrights-news #ddos attack on #techrights and I can only guess what triggers that ● Aug 09 [17:00] techrights-news #watchtroll death cult again attacking #covid19 #patent waivers. They want MILLIONS of people to needlessly die for corporate #monopolies and predation. A site for greedy sociopaths http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Watchtroll [17:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Watchtroll - Techrights [17:00] techrights-news #Security Leftovers (and Abandoning Old Hardware in Linux) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154324 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers (and Abandoning Old Hardware in Linux) | Tux Machines [17:03] techrights-news #uspto knows that #patent quality has done far too low https://www.iam-media.com/patents/uspto-eligibility-study-possible-prelude-legislation see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/USPTO [17:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | USPTO patent eligibility study looks like groundwork for legislation | IAM [17:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | USPTO - Techrights [17:05] techrights-news "They want people to quit. Cheaper than layoffs. It's those companies looking to reduce headcount that are mandating the vaccine. For those who refuse vaccination, company can pick and choose who to let go for not following policy." #ibm https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cecaatd#replies [17:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Red Hat issues vaccine mandate for employees - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:06] techrights-news "Yes, at some point, #IBM will probably insist that we employees start working." IBM is a dying firm. It engages in financial manipulation now. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1c8mhQCW#replies [17:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Return to work - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.28 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 71.01 swarm size (avg): 276.57 [17:14] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:14] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:19] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154325 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [17:22] techrights-news Links 9/8/2021: Rav1e 0.5 Beta and a Look at Widgets in WordPress 5.8 http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/rav1e-0-5-beta/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/09/rav1e-0-5-beta/ [17:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 9/8/2021: Rav1e 0.5 Beta and a Look at Widgets in WordPress 5.8 | Techrights [17:24] techrights-news "There is no mandatory RTO policy. It's volunteer and you have to sign up/reserve a seat somewhere on each day you would like to go in. You also have to wear a mask 100% of the time. It's not possible to make everybody go in due to lack of space." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cadsUqC#replies [17:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM RTO Master Thread - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:24] techrights-news "Who's signing up to share a toilet with your nasty coworkers? Good grief there are some freak shows out there." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cadsUqC#replies [17:25] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@swkigmbxm6feg.irc) has joined #techrights [17:25] techrights-news " #IBM will set the requirement... your choice will be, meet the requirement or leave." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1c8mhQCW#replies [17:26] techrights-news "Unfortunately... our economic system is designed for something quite the opposite... to extract value from the worker bees for as long as possible, as cheaply as possible." #ibm #layoffs https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ccNnWuS#replies [17:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Measuring success - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:27] techrights-news "Can confirm. #Kyndryl is being "over stuffed" #IBM will still have mass layoff after split. #Marketing hits heavy with reorg" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bNN1GXW#replies [17:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | RA Projections - IBM vs. Kyndryl? - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:28] techrights-news "The other qualifying event is does #IBM consider you strategic? If they dont consider your product strategic, your performance doesnt matter to them and you will be shown the door no matter how large your current attainment" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cb04k5G#replies [17:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | It's purely a financial decision - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:29] techrights-news Red Hat/IBM Got Tired of RMS. Is It Getting 'Tired of GPL/Copyleft Too? http://techrights.org/2020/06/04/tired-of-rms-winning/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [17:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Red Hat/IBM Got Tired of RMS. Is It Getting Tired of GPL/Copyleft Too? | Techrights [17:29] DaemonFC Major storms today and it'll be over 100 again tomorrow. [17:30] DaemonFC I try to keep it at 72 in here during the day and 66 at night. I have a lot of sleep problems already and feeling like I'm suffocating because of the temperature doesn't help. [17:30] schestowitz #IBM and the Bomb - Part VI: Diplomacy Replaced With Trade (Money Over Politics), or How Watson Jr. Was Sold to the Public, in the Same Way His Father (IBM Co-founder) Sold His Business Relationship With Dictators Like Hitler http://techrights.org/2020/08/02/ibm-and-the-bomb-part-6-final/ [17:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and the Bomb Part VI: Diplomacy Replaced With Trade (Money Over Politics), or How Watson Jr. Was Sold to the Public, in the Same Way His Father (IBM Co-founder) Sold His Business Relationship With Dictators Like Hitler | Techrights [17:30] DaemonFC So I'm actually glad that electric prices have been politicized. [17:31] DaemonFC Otherwise those might have gone up 20% like meat or something. [17:31] DaemonFC If they enact this vehicle miles tax, then we're going to go down to Springfield and skin these people alive. [17:31] DaemonFC They won't need to worry about an election next year. [17:32] DaemonFC They already doubled the per-gallon tax. If they do VMT on gasoline vehicles too, then fuck them to death! [17:32] DaemonFC That's my opinion on VMT. They should do VMT or a very expensive electric vehicle plate tax, on EVs only. [17:32] MinceR lol [17:33] DaemonFC They aren't trying to spin this as a CARBON BAD!!! CARBON BAAAAD! tax. [17:34] DaemonFC They say more efficient vehicles, which they mandated, are tearing up the roads and freeloading. [17:34] DaemonFC So the best way to handle that would be to charge a tax on registration that is based on how many mpg equivalent your car gets per the EPA, which posts this. [17:35] DaemonFC For example, on a 2003 Impala, I should pay 2/3rds of the tax that a 2018 Kia Soul+ should pay, and about half of what a Tesla owner does. [17:35] DaemonFC MinceR, Since I already have insurance tracking my miles to bill me for what I use, I finally decided to plot the most efficient course to take Mandy to work. [17:36] DaemonFC I managed to reduce the mileage by 12.4% by asking Waze for all of the options available on how to get there. [17:36] DaemonFC Then I pulled up a calculator. Turns out that I only save $20 on insurance over the year by doing this, but I save $115 on gasoline. [17:36] MinceR i wonder when will politicians realize that even BEVs cause emissions [17:37] DaemonFC At least in theory. So I took each route and times average speed and number of stop lights. [17:37] DaemonFC They're pretty similar, so the lower mileage route would seem to be more fuel efficient. [17:37] DaemonFC I'll track how much gas I put in my car the next few weeks. [17:40] DaemonFC MinceR, That engine was extremely out of tune when I got it. [17:40] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:40] *libertybox_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:41] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:41] DaemonFC I fixed all of the cheap and stupid reasons why it was getting poorer fuel economy than it was able to. [17:41] DaemonFC It went from about 11-12 mpg to about 17-18 in the city. [17:41] DaemonFC But I don't think it can do better than that. [17:41] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:42] DaemonFC At this point, I just need to find the most efficient routes to get where I'm going. [17:42] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:42] DaemonFC Plot errands that are along the same route. [17:42] DaemonFC Not drive like a maniac on the freeway. Things like that. [17:43] DaemonFC I noticed along the freeway you can get up to 34 miles per gallon at 55 miles per hour and as little as 25 miles per gallon at 85. [17:44] DaemonFC I've never had a car where the fuel mileage was this far apart between city and highway. [17:45] DaemonFC Every car does have its optimal fuel mileage. It seems that this car, on the highway, starts dropping at 62 miles per hour, and quite noticeably after 66 miles per hour. [17:45] DaemonFC After about 72 miles per hour, it starts dropping off steeply. [17:46] DaemonFC So I try not to exceed 70 unless I simply have to cover a lot of ground in a short time. [17:47] DaemonFC With this traffic court thing already pending, I may not want to exceed 60 even on the freeway. [17:47] DaemonFC All I need is a second strike on my license before I even clear this up. [17:48] DaemonFC I don't know how court works in other countries, but here, the prosecutor takes his turn and tries to throw all the shit he can at you in order to offer a very bad plea bargain. [17:48] DaemonFC If he can say "Oh, you got caught speeding and have court down in Cook County?", then what I'm already going in for is going to be so much worse. [17:50] DaemonFC It's more worth it for people to plead guilty and take supervision if they're already in danger of losing their license. I have less reason to do so because I still have the full three convictions in a year before they can take mine. [17:50] DaemonFC I can sink one as long as nothing else happens for a while. Therefore, I can go to court and take my chances. [17:50] DaemonFC So it functions as a reward for shitty drivers who are in court all the time. [17:50] DaemonFC MinceR, Or "justice" as I like to call it. :) [17:51] DaemonFC "You know the thing. Just pay us money and we won't sic the insurance people on you. Next!" [17:54] DaemonFC MinceR, Part of me wants to rip up the ticket and mail it back to the police department if I beat it. [17:54] DaemonFC But the other part says leave it alone. [17:55] DaemonFC Sure they're assholes, but if they remember you and that they don't like you, they'll make a point that bad things happen to you every time they see you. [17:58] DaemonFC schestowitz, Cops used to be off limits to the gangs in Chicago. They knew that if you blew away a cop, you'd bring a can of whoopass down on the entire gang. [17:58] *libertybox_ (~schestowitz_log@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:58] DaemonFC Yesterday, they just murdered one and the other is in the hospital and it's 50/50 that they ever get out, and this happens more and more. [17:58] DaemonFC Thanks to Lightfoot, Foxx, and Pritzker, they know they can get away with anything now. [17:59] DaemonFC The Big Black Cauc(us) bills to repeal the justice system in Illinois that Jabba the Pritzker has been signing surely haven't helped, even though the worst of it has yet to take effect. ● Aug 09 [18:00] DaemonFC I actually agree with the proposal to make credit scoring illegal on car insurance. Not because it's "racist". People have bad credit because they didn't pay their bills. Because it has nothing to do with car insurance except that black people will respond to $350 a month PLPD by not having insurance at all and then the problem rebounds on everyone else. [18:01] DaemonFC As both higher premiums and having to buy uninsured motorist riders that cost more. [18:02] DaemonFC If you're already on the run from child support, landlords, payday loan companies, and some open warrants, what's car insurance at that point? [18:03] DaemonFC Maybe they'll repeal child support next. After all, it takes a village to raise an idiot. Why expect the dad to pay some of the bills? [18:05] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21071558 [18:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5678071) [18:06] DaemonFC MinceR, On Facebook: "Apparently, the Lt. Governor of Massachusetts wasn't wearing his seatbelt and walked away from a 100+ mph car crash without any serious injuries. I think they need to check that guy to see if Skynet sent him back from the future, personally. [18:06] DaemonFC "Obviously something has changed. The likely explanation is that people were driving faster during & after the pandemic." [18:06] DaemonFC Well, thanks to Jabba the Pritzker repealing our criminal justice system, it's harder for the courts to enforce their rulings even if they want to. You can get traffic court fines now and never lose your license even if you don't pay. How do you like that? Of course, that would just be one guess." [18:07] DaemonFC I was responding to someone else who said the pandemic is why we've been seeing an uptick in traffic scofflaws. [18:09] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:10] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:16] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [18:16] schestowitz-TR MinceR: what happened next? [18:17] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [18:18] MinceR \_()_/ [18:24] *leah has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.8) [18:28] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: atheme does not provide support for freenode, or networks operated by its associates. [18:29] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: just notifying you of the behavior of the garbage that you drag around with techrights [18:29] CrystalMath and that makes techrights stink so bad [18:29] Ariadne the four freedoms of freenode, and its associates are not impacted by our refusal to provide technical support [18:30] CrystalMath Ariadne: that changes nothing about what you are as a person [18:30] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL9Y24ciNWs [18:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It's the smell. - YouTube [18:30] DaemonFC Freenode has collapsed. [18:30] Ariadne CrystalMath: somebody who does not provide support to freenode or its associates? [18:30] DaemonFC And this crap going on with PIA makes me seriously wonder if I want to continue with them as my VPN provider in November when my account is up for renewal. [18:30] Ariadne i'm sorry, i wasn't aware that you get to define what i spend my time on [18:31] *psydruid has quit (connection closed) [18:31] DaemonFC Freenode doesn't seem to acknowledge that there are so few users left there's little point in going on at this point. [18:31] Ariadne i believe schestowitz is quite aware of my views regarding using organized labor [18:31] *cow_2001 (~un@user/cow-2001/x-5712099) has joined #techrights [18:31] DaemonFC Unions can be good or bad. [18:31] Ariadne it's quite funny, because this is a tactic invented by RMS himself [18:32] DaemonFC Many of them negotiate harder for what's good for them than what's good for the employees they claim to represent. [18:32] CrystalMath Ariadne: oh i don't, but your extension to associates (and associates of associates) is what i'm pointing out [18:32] DaemonFC Walmart is non-union and the employee compensation is better than jewel-osco, which has a union and a contract, and dues coming out of your check every week. [18:33] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/21063049 [18:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5635001) [18:33] DaemonFC The unions haven't managed to bargain for better working conditions at jewel. In fact, a higher percentage of jewel employees are part time, which makes it even harder to use the job to pay for your life expenses. [18:33] Ariadne CrystalMath: i mean, i don't think it is surprising that the IRC equivalent to the FSF refuses to provide support to a person who took over 700+ channels and shut them down [18:34] DaemonFC Frito-Lay isn't budging on their contract offer. [18:34] CrystalMath Ariadne: lol "IRC equivalent to the FSF" [18:34] Ariadne i also do not think it is surprising that others who have a nexus with that person would fall into the embargo too. [18:34] DaemonFC Increasingly, the unions just take your money and make endless concessions. [18:34] CrystalMath yeah the FSF is known for embargoes, is it? [18:34] DaemonFC At that point, you're getting whatever the employer feels like giving you anyway, so why have the union? [18:34] MinceR the FSF is known for bending over for its enemies lately [18:34] Ariadne CrystalMath: they have embargoed features in GNU software before until such time that GNU/Linux had feature parity. [18:34] CrystalMath MinceR: honestly that's better than the complete opposite, but also not ideal [18:35] DaemonFC What we need, are laws. [18:35] MinceR whatever [18:35] MinceR just don't expect them to do anything worthwhile [18:35] DaemonFC Those unions for grocery store workers "bargained" for how many years in Illinois, without raising the wage to $15? [18:35] DaemonFC One law and now they have to pay at least $15. [18:35] CrystalMath also the IRC equivalent of the FSF doesn't understand free software, and even outright opposes it by attacking RMS [18:36] Ariadne atheme has never commented on RMS [18:36] DaemonFC I refuse to shop at Kroger or Jewel/Albertsons. [18:36] CrystalMath its members attack RMS on twitter [18:36] CrystalMath this is the IRC equivalent of the SFC, really [18:36] Ariadne its members have freedom of speech, and are allowed to say what they wish [18:36] DaemonFC They were both gloating about raising prices on groceries WAAAAAY higher than inflation required them to. [18:36] DaemonFC To get "better margins". They know people will get pissed and blame the entire thing on Biden. [18:36] CrystalMath and the SFC is full of horrible garbage people that should never be listened to [18:36] DaemonFC So if they only need to raise prices 4%, they raise them 8%. [18:37] DaemonFC Then brag at investor meetings. [18:37] Ariadne you're just mad that freenode staff have to make decisions about whether to stay affiliated with freenode [18:37] DaemonFC It fucking pisses me off, honestly, that we're out here busting our humps just trying to make ends meet and those fucking grocery store CEOs are gloating about this. [18:37] CrystalMath Ariadne: the people you were talking to aren't so strongly affiliated anymore [18:37] CrystalMath i mean, it's kinda hard to be [18:38] DaemonFC Gratuitous and unnecessary price hikes. [18:38] Ariadne the person i was talking about, Foxy, is still known to be a staffer and thus remains on the embargo list. [18:38] CrystalMath if freenode did do what Andrew Lee said, been an IRC network for free speech and right-wing free software development, i would have loved it [18:38] CrystalMath i would have done everything for it [18:38] DaemonFC I've noticed that Aldi and Walmart still seem to be at least _trying_ to not make this inflation worse than it has to be. [18:38] CrystalMath sadly these latest moves are terrible and go against this goal [18:38] Ariadne too bad he's just another grifter, huh [18:38] MinceR making lists of people, so hot right now [18:39] DaemonFC And I respect them for that. They aren't pissing on us and telling us it's raining. [18:39] DaemonFC So I'll shop there. [18:39] CrystalMath MinceR: i guess there's still IRCNow [18:39] Ariadne MinceR: i mean, i don't have a list per se of people, i just check freenode.net/staff or whatever it is [18:39] MinceR i don't know ircnow [18:39] Ariadne foxy screwed up by reminding us that she was affiliated with both networks [18:39] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I picked up a receipt from Walmart in the parking lot yesterday. Often, there's iBotta rebates on them and someone didn't claim them. [18:40] CrystalMath Ariadne: both? [18:40] DaemonFC So I pick it up and it's all steak, lobster, snow crab. [18:40] MinceR i hate this effort to bring two-party politics into what used to be free software development [18:40] Ariadne freenode, and evilnet [18:40] DaemonFC I get to the bottom and it's food stamps. [18:40] DaemonFC Because of course it is. [18:40] MinceR but Lee didn't fire the first shot in that, afaict [18:40] CrystalMath Ariadne: well you can check freenode.net/people [18:40] CrystalMath the list has in fact gotten shorter than you think [18:40] MinceR Ariadne: what's up with evilnet? [18:41] CrystalMath MinceR: evilnet is the one Ariadne won't help [18:41] Ariadne i mean, i would check if foxy is still a staff with /whois, but it seems i need to make an irc.com account to even connect [18:41] DaemonFC Ronald Reagan put this in a speech in the 1980s where he said you work hard and are in there trying to buy hamburgers and here's this strapping young buck using food stamps to buy steak. [18:41] CrystalMath although this is good for evilnet as i'm trying to convince them not to use the garbage that is atheme [18:41] DaemonFC Not much has changed, I guess. [18:41] MinceR :> [18:41] Ariadne CrystalMath: it does seem relevant to convince them to not use software where there is no technical support available [18:41] DaemonFC Reagan had perhaps the most compelling presidential victories of all time. [18:42] CrystalMath Ariadne: regardless of technical support, atheme is just bad [18:42] DaemonFC In fact, I think 1984 he only lost Minnesota and DC. [18:42] CrystalMath if atheme was good i could do tech support for it [18:42] CrystalMath but i don't want to read that crap [18:42] Ariadne ah, the phanes talking point [18:42] DaemonFC I don't think anyone has ever won all electoral votes. I think that's the closest it's been. [18:42] Ariadne all this is telling me is that the action we agreed to collectively is having the desired effect [18:43] Ariadne so, thanks for letting me know [18:43] Ariadne :) [18:43] DaemonFC We've gone back to being too evenly divided to even guess at what will happen until the fat lady sings. [18:43] DaemonFC Maybe even days after the election. [18:44] CrystalMath Ariadne: well if the desired effect is to get people away from atheme, then yes [18:44] CrystalMath however i also want schestowitz to know this [18:44] Ariadne okay [18:44] DaemonFC Eh, Washington, but I don't think he really counts. The prevailing attitude was to make him a King. [18:44] DaemonFC De facto if nothing else. [18:45] DaemonFC Usually power goes to the people who want it, and that's why they shouldn't have it. [18:45] MinceR ronnie raygun only wished they could make him a king, eh? [18:45] Ariadne CrystalMath: bluntly, free software does not include technical support [18:45] CrystalMath i know, but if it was anope that did this (which is possible) it would be worth it to provide 3rd party community support for it [18:46] CrystalMath atheme sadly reeks of the garbage that the people who work on it are [18:46] Ariadne haha [18:46] MinceR [18:47] DaemonFC What these Senate negotiations are telling me is that about half the Republican Party has already cast Trump aside and want to move on and do big things now that he's out of the picture. [18:47] Ariadne i mean, if schestowitz wishes to move techrights off my servers because *checks notes* a group of people collectively organized to not provide technical support to freenode and its staffers in any context, then that's his right to do. [18:47] DaemonFC They won't say it, but they've calculated that he won't be back. [18:47] DaemonFC No matter what he threatens them with, they don't care. [18:48] Ariadne however, i do not see how that action is against the spirit of free software [18:48] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:48] MinceR recently i saw an article claiming that the head of the RNC claimed goldenDawnald is still in charge of the GOP [18:48] Ariadne if you would like to explain it, i would be glad to hear [18:48] DaemonFC MinceR, Yeah, 19 Senate Republicans wouldn't give Trump an infrastructure bill. [18:48] Ariadne but, the GPL has an entire paragraph on software being provided "AS IS" and "WITH NO WARRANTY" [18:48] DaemonFC But they're happy to give one to Biden and ignore "Leadership" to get it to him. [18:49] DaemonFC In fact, Mitch McConnell has even been strongarmed into coming onboard at this point because he doesn't want to look like he's lost control of his caucus. [18:49] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [18:50] *mib_waruvt (~6b02bae1@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [18:53] CrystalMath Ariadne: the problem is how you extend this to associates and associates of associates (recursively) [18:53] CrystalMath the problem isn't evilnet which should not be using atheme anyway [18:53] Ariadne how is that a problem? an embargo needs to have teeth to be effective [18:54] CrystalMath Ariadne: the fact that you call it an embargo is another thing that schestowitz should be aware of [18:54] Ariadne (hint: the goal of the embargo is to leave freenode with zero staffers) [18:54] CrystalMath freenode isn't going to have 0 staffers but it will have 5-ish [18:54] CrystalMath until it closes down [18:55] CrystalMath i mean how much staff will freenode really need? with only registered users that will be such a small amount :( [18:55] Ariadne yes, schestowitz, CrystalMath is telling the truth, i am using labor organizing to influence what staff andrew lee can retain [18:55] CrystalMath it's pointless to discuss freenode, sadly there is currently no free speech free software development IRC [18:56] Ariadne so, is foxy a freenode staff or not [18:56] CrystalMath Ariadne: but you're kinda beating a dead horse, if that's the point [18:56] Ariadne it's not a dead horse until it's zero [18:56] CrystalMath well, technically still an ircop [18:56] Ariadne and, it's not my personal decision [18:56] Ariadne we collectively made that decision [18:57] CrystalMath i know, yes, now you told me what that's about, but freenode doesn't have a chance [18:57] Ariadne i'm sorry that this is where the picket line is, but that's where the picket line is [18:57] CrystalMath and yet the need for a right-wing-allowing free software IRC network is still there and unquenched [18:57] Ariadne our refusal to provide support to freenode and its associates is also speech, by the way [18:57] Ariadne and atheme has no issue with a right-wing free software IRC network [18:58] MinceR what does atheme have issue with? [18:58] Ariadne we have issue with an IRC network run by somebody who takes over 700+ channels and steals them from their rightful owners [18:58] MinceR do they have a statement? [18:58] Ariadne yes, i believe we do [18:58] Ariadne CrystalMath removed that part [18:58] MinceR well, the takeover part is fair [18:58] Ariadne although it is hosted at github, https://atheme.github.io/atheme-open-letter/ [18:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-atheme.github.io | An open letter from Athemes developers and community | atheme-open-letter [18:58] *inky_ (~inky@46.162.236.174) has joined #techrights [18:58] MinceR though i believe freenode suffered the consequences of that already :> [18:59] CrystalMath personally i don't really think there's anything wrong with taking over spam channels [18:59] Ariadne it's the non-spam channels that we had an issue with [18:59] CrystalMath and making sure people are allowed to talk ● Aug 09 [19:00] MinceR there was nothing "spam" about #bedrock [19:00] Ariadne for example, #atheme was closed, even though it only mentioned libera as an alternative [19:00] CrystalMath honestly, if i start an IRC network, no channel mode will be allowed to prevent the majority from speaking [19:00] MinceR they didn't even decide on whether to move [19:00] CrystalMath although this choice may be dangerous :P [19:00] MinceR but the heavy-handed idiot made that decision for them [19:00] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [19:00] CrystalMath 5 people on a channel, troll joins with 10 accounts, no mode can stop the troll now :P [19:01] CrystalMath i don't really know how to solve it [19:01] MinceR i'd rather make a decentralized namespace for channels [19:01] CrystalMath but people should *NOT* be allowed to force people to move to a new network [19:01] MinceR so it doesn't matter if someone squats a channel [19:01] MinceR but gtg [19:02] Ariadne CrystalMath: by the way, i have it on great authority that anope will not help entities known to be affiliated with freenode either [19:02] CrystalMath Ariadne: okay, but i'll provide 3rd party support for anope then [19:02] CrystalMath anope needs to be forked honestly, if it truly supports cancel culture this way [19:03] Ariadne > cancel culture [19:03] Ariadne we "cancelled" (god i hate that word) a group of people whose leader decided to harm the autonomy of thousands of communities [19:03] Ariadne they can quit! [19:04] Ariadne nobody is holding a gun to their head and saying "be a freenode oper!" [19:04] CrystalMath that shouldn't matter [19:04] CrystalMath but i mean, anope's developers shouldn't matter, either, this is free software [19:05] Ariadne the four freedoms are retained [19:05] CrystalMath yes [19:05] Ariadne i'm not required to help Foxy figure out how to run atheme [19:05] CrystalMath she doesn't want to run atheme! [19:05] Ariadne great [19:05] CrystalMath it's her friend who's adamant on using that crap [19:06] Ariadne i'm not required to help a network that shares staff with freenode run atheme [19:06] Ariadne they are able to study the source themselves [19:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.81 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 43.06 swarm size (avg): 276.51 [19:07] CrystalMath hmm, i wonder, does the fact that i won't study the source and help them myself mean i'm cancelling atheme? [19:07] Ariadne it's funny that it's always men who get angry about being told "no" [19:07] Ariadne guess so [19:07] Ariadne what a silly word [19:08] Ariadne in fact, i told somebody *else* no, and you're mad about *that* [19:08] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [19:08] CrystalMath me? no i'm not mad, i'm just leaking your behavior to schestowitz [19:09] CrystalMath i thought you were referring to Gedreel, who, probably isn't mad either but idk really, i don't have direct information [19:09] CrystalMath and i'm leaking your behavior to schestowitz only because he insists that you run his infrastructure [19:10] CrystalMath which i believe is ultimately hurting techrights [19:10] Ariadne perhaps he insists that because he knows i will be equally stubborn with people who attack him/techrights [19:11] Ariadne you should learn to look at the big picture [19:11] CrystalMath i guess i do get mad every time i see cancel culture [19:11] XRevan86 Ariadne: CrystalMath is a lot more reasonable when he doesn't look at the big picture. [19:11] CrystalMath or any embargo [19:11] Ariadne this isn't even "cancel" culture [19:12] Ariadne this is "i'm not going to spend my personal time providing tech support to networks which have something in common with freenode" [19:12] Ariadne what myself and others choose to collectively set as boundaries is our choice, and our speech [19:13] Ariadne you talk about "free speech" but then choose to punish others for expressing their own speech [19:13] CrystalMath yeah it's not illegal or anything, it just makes you a bad person for discriminating [19:13] CrystalMath and i don't want to change atheme's decision [19:13] CrystalMath i want to change schestowitz's decision [19:13] XRevan86 CrystalMath: freenode discriminated them, so they're soft-discriminating freenode, so ye're discriminating them [19:13] XRevan86 and in all of this it's Ariadne that is the "cancelling" one? [19:14] gustaf in lieue of popcorn I have Pringles [19:14] gustaf but this is good entertainment [19:14] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Say it as it is: ye want to cancel Ariadne for her choices. [19:14] Ariadne XRevan86: its because scope of the embargo includes networks run or opered by people who have a nexus with freenode [19:14] CrystalMath XRevan86: only from techrights because i believe t would save techrights [19:14] Ariadne and that embargo is not just atheme at this point, [19:14] CrystalMath Ariadne: and yes if it was just freenode i would have nothing to say to schestowitz, since this was obvious [19:15] Ariadne but anope, inspircd, even unrealircd [19:15] XRevan86 Ariadne: Try the word "boycott" instead of "embargo" [19:15] Ariadne CrystalMath: i'm sorry that the irc development community has decided there has to be even the smallest amount of inconvenience as a result of providing labor to andrew lee [19:15] XRevan86 I think it would have a better ring in #boycottnovell, if ye know what I mean ;) [19:16] Ariadne techrights, too, advocates for this strategy [19:16] Ariadne with the EPO [19:16] Ariadne with Novell historically [19:17] Ariadne so, yes, the fact that you are complaining about me, adapting a strategy invented by schestowitz to solve a similar problem, is quite ironic really [19:17] CrystalMath i truly don't understand "boycott novell" either [19:17] Ariadne evilnet can "cure" the fact that they fall in the boycott zone [19:17] Ariadne foxy can quit freenode staff [19:17] Ariadne evilnet can fire foxy [19:17] Ariadne that's two ways they can get out of it [19:18] CrystalMath none of that solves the real problem [19:18] Ariadne the real problem being that the atheme maintainers are uppity? [19:18] CrystalMath no, that there is no right-wing free software development IRC network [19:18] Ariadne start one, atheme will have your back [19:19] Ariadne this has nothing to do with left vs right politics, and everything to do with andrew lee's war on community autonomy [19:19] XRevan86 CrystalMath is too caught in the wing wars to see the real issues involved. [19:20] Ariadne there are plenty of right-wing networks running atheme [19:20] Ariadne they haven't ever been cancelled [19:20] Ariadne we don't care [19:20] Ariadne we care about taking a network of 90,000 users and then terrorizing the userbase [19:20] blitzed --MASS PSYCHOSIS - How an Entire Population Becomes MENTALLY ILL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M [19:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MASS PSYCHOSIS - How an Entire Population Becomes MENTALLY ILL - YouTube [19:21] CrystalMath but you have the mistaken belief that chanops should be allowed to force people to move to a different network [19:21] Ariadne we have the belief that communities should be allowed to make whatever decisions they want [19:21] Ariadne if that results in the community being forked, then sure [19:21] *inky (~inky@46.36.113.172) has joined #techrights [19:22] CrystalMath but you want to allow the situation where a channel is completely disabled on one network [19:22] CrystalMath i think that's unacceptable [19:22] Ariadne but atheme (which was the freenode development team unionizing) was started to promote freedom and community autonomy, so it is unsurprising that we would have a bone to pick with andrew [19:23] Ariadne CrystalMath: i do not want to allow a situation where a channel is completely disabled on one network [19:23] CrystalMath i mean, if i ran the script that freenode ran, i would have it affect only non-project channels... [19:23] Ariadne but, that's not what andrew did [19:23] Ariadne andrew's script seized the channels from the communities [19:24] Ariadne and then k-lined the individuals who set the topics mentioning libera [19:24] CrystalMath okay, so that wasn't great, but even so it's his network [19:24] Ariadne it is especially the latter part that atheme found unacceptable [19:24] CrystalMath the people moved to another one as a result [19:24] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [19:24] CrystalMath he could have ordered the network to shut down [19:25] CrystalMath in a way, he did (freenode classic) [19:25] Ariadne "his network" [19:25] CrystalMath yes [19:25] XRevan86 CrystalMath: "but even so it's his network" so Andrew can do what he wants, but Atheme can't? [19:25] Ariadne historically, that is not the case [19:25] CrystalMath XRevan86: atheme shouldn't dispute private ownership [19:25] Ariadne lmfao [19:25] CrystalMath if it does, its community is crazy [19:26] Ariadne no, we don't dispute that, because we allowed christel to form freenode limited unilaterally (oopsie) [19:26] XRevan86 CrystalMath: It has a right not to have anything in common with a corporate raid that took place. [19:26] CrystalMath it's not a corporate raid [19:26] CrystalMath the corporation owned the network and decided to shut it down [19:27] CrystalMath then started a new one [19:27] CrystalMath before the shut down channels were taken but ultimately why is that important really, it was all shut down [19:27] XRevan86 > require the company to undertake novel measures designed to increase the share value, generally in opposition to the desires and practices of the corporation's current management [19:27] Ariadne because it was an attack on the very thing atheme was created to promote [19:27] XRevan86 Okay, the "increase the share value" part doesn't fit. [19:29] Ariadne i mean, the reality is, atheme was more than willing to continue in its agreement with freenode, under the new leadership [19:29] XRevan86 The term "raid takeover" in Russian has a different meaning, I don't know how to get that across. [19:29] Ariadne then rasengan was like "fuck you, i do what i want" [19:29] Ariadne so, we decided to do likewise [19:29] CrystalMath Ariadne: i still don't think you should cancel a network just because it's doing crazy things [19:29] Ariadne and it turned out what we want is to not provide free labor to freenode or its associates [19:30] CrystalMath like i could start a network where network staff owns all the channels [19:30] Ariadne how are we 'cancelling' freenode? [19:30] CrystalMath no you're cancelling people who are just vaguely associated [19:30] Ariadne we simply choose not to provide free labor to it, or its associates [19:30] CrystalMath even recursively [19:30] XRevan86 staffer == vaguely associated [19:30] CrystalMath XRevan86: a friend of a friend of a friend of a staffer? [19:30] Ariadne other networks run in part by freenode staff can launder freenode's support requests [19:31] CrystalMath no because freenode does not run atheme [19:31] Ariadne it does not run atheme because it had no practical choice but to stop [19:31] Ariadne but that does not change our position, [19:31] Ariadne other networks run in part by freenode staff can launder freenode's support requests [19:31] CrystalMath how? [19:31] Ariadne that freenode does not *presently* have support requests, does not change that the capability exists [19:31] CrystalMath freenode has zero support requests for atheme [19:32] CrystalMath Ariadne: i think that's presuming guilt way too far [19:32] CrystalMath therefore, you are a bad person [19:32] Ariadne that's what we agreed to, sorry you don't like it [19:32] CrystalMath you're all bad people [19:33] Ariadne just like RMS is called bad for doing activism, too [19:33] CrystalMath when? [19:33] Ariadne all the time people say he is bad, haven't you noticed? [19:33] CrystalMath RMS said free software code from Microsoft is welcome [19:33] CrystalMath that's why RMS is a good person [19:33] CrystalMath RMS said Microsoft is allowed to use free software code and get community support [19:33] CrystalMath RMS went to Microsoft in 2019 and gave a talk there [19:34] Ariadne evilnet is not blocked from getting community support for atheme [19:34] CrystalMath i thought it was? [19:34] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [19:34] Ariadne no, they are free to ask anybody who is not a party to the boycott whatever they wish [19:35] CrystalMath Ariadne: right, it's only the people who are doing the boycott that are bad people, completely unlike RMS who is a great person [19:35] Ariadne RMS have boycotted things too [19:35] XRevan86 even Coca-Cola [19:35] psydruid What happened to Freenode? [19:35] CrystalMath psydruid: they went SASL-only and finished themselves off [19:36] XRevan86 psydruid: It's dead, Jim. [19:36] psydruid I was connected using the bouncer and now I have zero channels in my list [19:36] Ariadne anyway, i am sorry that you don't like that there are an organized boycott against freenode's staff for technical support [19:36] CrystalMath Ariadne: RMS would never say that some people shouldn't use free software or get support for it [19:36] psydruid So yeah, I guess it is dead for real now [19:36] XRevan86 psydruid: Probably not registered. [19:37] CrystalMath XRevan86: well you have to be to use the bnc :P [19:37] XRevan86 psydruid: It requires TLS and SASL from everyone. [19:37] Ariadne CrystalMath: i've never said that. evilnet is free to use atheme, and get support for it, from somebody other than me [19:37] XRevan86 CrystalMath: psydruid probably meant his own bouncer, not *the* bouncer. [19:37] CrystalMath XRevan86: trouble is, even if you are using bnc.freenode.net, you need to set up SASL on it :P [19:38] CrystalMath if you don't you can't even connect with that! [19:39] Ariadne CrystalMath: evilnet's software freedom is not compromised by me saying "sorry, no technical support for associates of freenode" [19:39] activelow it wasn't SASL which killed freenode [19:39] Ariadne CrystalMath: the GPL has a lot to say on this, have you read it? [19:40] CrystalMath Ariadne: well it would be weird if it had a forced speech clause [19:40] CrystalMath i mean i'm not saying you're compromising their software freedom [19:40] Ariadne 15. Disclaimer of Warranty. [19:40] Ariadne [19:40] Ariadne THERE IS NO WARRANTY FOR THE PROGRAM, TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW. [...] SHOULD THE PROGRAM PROVE DEFECTIVE, YOU ASSUME THE COST OF ALL NECESSARY SERVICING, REPAIR OR CORRECTION. [19:41] CrystalMath it just makes you a bad person, that's all, because you are being mean to innocent people [19:41] CrystalMath that's literally all [19:42] Ariadne i'm sorry that Gadreel is inconvenienced, but there are two paths that can be taken to solve the issue [19:42] Ariadne Foxy can quit freenode staff, or he can fire Foxy [19:42] CrystalMath or he can use anope [19:42] Ariadne or he can get support from another atheme user who chooses to help him [19:42] Ariadne so, really, 4 paths [19:42] CrystalMath i don't understand his terrible choice of service package or even worse choice of ircd [19:43] Ariadne oh, right, anope does not work with ircu :) [19:43] CrystalMath nah worse, solanum [19:43] activelow wiping the databse and pointing freenode domain to irc.com service killed it, not any specific service or ircd or SASL auth [19:43] CrystalMath activelow: that did cost the most users [19:44] CrystalMath but we could have saved it at that point [19:44] CrystalMath heck i was going around convincing people to come back, my channels went back up [19:44] activelow it cost ALL of them, freenode user count is 0, irc.com got 10K now [19:44] CrystalMath it was all going great... until the SASL thing [19:44] CrystalMath many people left even though they have accounts because they can't stand for this [19:44] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:45] activelow SASL wasn't an issue at all [19:45] CrystalMath umm [19:45] Ariadne well, he should be used to this embargo by now, since it also includes solanum [19:45] Ariadne probably why he DMed me instead of taking the appropriate steps to get support [19:45] Ariadne :) [19:45] CrystalMath activelow: SASL killed it, as far as i can see [19:45] CrystalMath everything was heading on a path of unlikely but possible success [19:45] CrystalMath SASL however sent it onto ensured failure [19:46] activelow mandatory registration after wiping the databse did, not SASL [19:46] Ariadne i don't cross picket lines, CrystalMath [19:46] Ariadne that's where people chose the picket line to be [19:46] *schestowitz-TR has quit (connection closed) [19:46] CrystalMath activelow: before SASL, registration wasn't mandatory [19:46] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [19:46] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [19:46] CrystalMath activelow: becuase once you could connect normally, you had the option of doing NickServ register/login [19:46] CrystalMath or not doing any of that and just going to channels [19:47] CrystalMath although the default umode had +R [19:47] CrystalMath channels still had plenty of visitors [19:47] CrystalMath i helped plenty of people on #perl [19:47] CrystalMath it was going fine [19:48] activelow another issue: since SASL/registration are mandatory there is no reason anymore to block onion exits to prevent SPAM [19:49] CrystalMath right, there's a tor service [19:49] CrystalMath is that down? [19:49] activelow if his highness had permitted onion exits with the new SASl/registration scheme then I may not have dropped the new account [19:50] activelow last time i tried onion exits were blocked [19:50] CrystalMath the infra team has also shrunk, not because of some idiot self-righteous developers, but because of the recent changes to staff [19:50] activelow and no hidden service available either, to my knowledge [19:51] CrystalMath Ariadne: anyway for me the point of free software is eliminating the power of developers [19:51] Ariadne that won't solve your problem [19:51] CrystalMath which problem? [19:51] CrystalMath the right-wing IRC network? no :P [19:51] CrystalMath but the problem of developers having power? yes [19:51] Ariadne a community at large can still voluntarily organize to deny support to an idiot [19:52] CrystalMath developers should have NO power [19:52] Ariadne the people writing the code should have no power [19:52] Ariadne yet, writing the code is inherently powerful [19:52] Ariadne yes, this makes sense [19:52] CrystalMath yes, that's why the GPL requires that the source is out there [19:52] CrystalMath to create a free market for support [19:53] CrystalMath RMS's idea was that if someone won't provide support, someone else will [19:53] *Techrights-sec has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) [19:53] DaemonFC https://www.npr.org/2021/08/09/1025193562/the-u-s-attracts-fewer-international-students-loses-billions-in-revenue-heres-wh [19:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Fewer Foreign Students To The U.S. Cost Billions In Revenue Loss : NPR [19:53] CrystalMath and i guess nothing has been violated here [19:54] DaemonFC The universities have finally been filled up with useless SJWs teaching reverse racism and underwater basket weaving that it's no longer worth their time? [19:54] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [19:55] DaemonFC "And 70% of international students on American campuses are from Asia. The recent rise in anti-Asian hate crimes have made some of them reconsider their futures in the U.S." [19:55] DaemonFC Almost all of those hate crimes happening in progressive blue states. [19:55] DaemonFC Places like San Francisco, Chicago, Seattle, NYC. [19:56] Ariadne CrystalMath: ding ding ding [19:56] Ariadne however [19:56] Ariadne CrystalMath: is this issue actually unrelated to evilnet? [19:56] Ariadne my impression was that evilnet ran ircu [19:56] DaemonFC That's not really surprising considering almost all of the violent crime in America happens in places where the Democrats are the majority. [19:56] DaemonFC They project it on red states but that's not the truth. [19:57] CrystalMath Ariadne: huh, i was told this person wants to run evilnet on solanum and atheme [19:57] DaemonFC They have Ariadne maybe convinced to bail on Wyoming, was it? [19:57] DaemonFC But then she's more likely to get shot in Chicago for no other reason than they want her phone or money or something. [19:57] Ariadne DaemonFC: no, the $480k offered for my homestead and neighbor with "we shoot fucking faggots in wyoming" flag was the convincing part [19:57] DaemonFC Why does it matter more why you were shot than what the odds are? That seems odd. [19:58] MinceR i can understand atheme's vendetta on freenode for taking over their channel[s], but not the one on evilnet [19:58] Ariadne who says i would live in chicago [19:58] CrystalMath MinceR: yeah same [19:58] Ariadne MinceR: common staff [19:58] DaemonFC I don't know. I certainly can't recommend Chicago, but it's a violent shithole like most Democrat cities. [19:58] CrystalMath Ariadne: the very belief that embargos need to recursively spread like that makes you a bad person [19:58] DaemonFC And they tax you a lot and deliver few services to compensate for it. [19:59] CrystalMath also i will never join a union [19:59] DaemonFC At least in red states if the government doesn't do much, your taxes are low and you can get by on your own, most likely. [19:59] Ariadne CrystalMath: if the goal is to make it socially expensive to have a freenode o:line, then it needs to be poisonous [19:59] CrystalMath screw unions, it's just aggressive self-righteous idiots all around [19:59] Ariadne atheme started as a union so is it really surprising that it behaves like one [19:59] XRevan86 Crimean companies dodge the embargo by posing as located in St. Petersburg. ● Aug 09 [20:00] DaemonFC I would never voluntarily join a labor union. Unfortunately, Illinois Democrats get so much money from them that they passed a law making it illegal not to join a union if most of the retards working there voted one in at some point. [20:00] DaemonFC And even if the majority changes their mind, it's almost impossible to decertify one once they've set up. [20:00] DaemonFC People should be very concerned about letting a union into their shop. They should almost certainly vote no. [20:01] Ariadne well, at the time, freenode's owner was trying to get people to buy him a fucking RV so [20:01] DaemonFC Most of the union contracts aren't worth the goddamned paper they're printed on, for the workers. [20:01] DaemonFC Then they steal your money too, before you see it, like the IRS. [20:01] XRevan86 Ariadne: What's an RV? [20:01] Ariadne :D [20:01] MinceR Ariadne: it was probably andrew's call [20:01] DaemonFC Recreational Vehicle [20:01] MinceR he admitted to implementing freenodecom [20:01] DaemonFC Indiana makes most of them, btw, afaik. [20:02] DaemonFC The industry almost collapsed in 2008. [20:02] CrystalMath MinceR: nah [20:02] CrystalMath i found out who ran the script and asked for it to be written [20:02] CrystalMath it wasn't rasengan [20:02] DaemonFC People were taking on loans to buy them, and then credit tightened up and nobody could buy them for a while. [20:02] Ariadne yeah it was nirvana [20:02] Ariadne and eskimo wrote it [20:02] CrystalMath Ariadne found out too i see [20:02] MinceR ic [20:03] DaemonFC Ariadne, Other than some crazy politicians at the state level in Indiana, I haven't seen too many people who actually care one way or the other about LGBT issues. [20:03] DaemonFC It's a very polite and "Don't bother them, they won't bother you." state. [20:03] DaemonFC Laws are enforced. If you try to do someone harm and they shoot you, oh well. [20:03] DaemonFC Exactly how things should be. [20:04] DaemonFC Crime is out of control in Illinois not just because the Democrat Party is repealing our criminal justice system, or more correctly, what was left of it, but because it's not a stand your ground state, and getting a carry license is difficult. [20:04] Ariadne CrystalMath: unfortunately, the desire of that policy is to encourage freenode staff to quit [20:04] DaemonFC If they reversed that, the citizenry would take care of a lot of these pieces of shit. [20:05] Ariadne as most of freenode's new staff are hired "professional" ircops [20:05] Ariadne we wanted to make it expensive for them to remain on staff [20:05] Ariadne again, sorry that atheme (and then later, the irc development community at large) thought it appropriate to introduce even mild inconvenience [20:05] kingoffrance enough money to hire ppl, not enough to pay for support? [20:06] DaemonFC They hire people to preside over a 95% collapse in users. Over the past 100 days or so. [20:06] CrystalMath kingoffrance: i'd provide support for freenode for free, if only it didn't continuously work on its own destruction [20:06] kingoffrance im not taking a side either way, but when you say "free market" that generally implies paying for support [20:06] CrystalMath there's nothing i wouldn't do for a network with freenode's politics, just as long as it doesn't shoot itself in the foot with a machine gun [20:06] kingoffrance or some other negotiation [20:07] CrystalMath the politics freenode blogs about are IMO exactly what free software needs [20:07] CrystalMath and rasengan is totally right about that [20:07] kingoffrance let me ask you this CrystalMath [20:07] DaemonFC https://www.npr.org/2021/08/09/1026131599/climate-change-report-takeaways-biden-administration [20:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | A Scientist Highlights What Can Be Done About The Dire Climate Change Report : NPR [20:07] DaemonFC LOL@ "The UN". [20:07] kingoffrance if there is no right wing, and libera whatever is left -- is there any neutral "we dont do politics" remaining? [20:08] DaemonFC What should we do? Pull out of the UN. Not even Trump would do it though.... :( [20:08] kingoffrance i mean, just cuz someone says "neutral" doesnt mean they are [20:08] DaemonFC We pay so that terrorists and China run the place, pretty much./ [20:08] kingoffrance just does any network even try to do that (other than here) ? [20:08] CrystalMath kingoffrance: no i don't actually mean a right-wing IRC network, that does exist [20:08] CrystalMath irc.ircnow.org :P [20:08] CrystalMath i mean a right-wing-allowing (but neutral) [20:09] CrystalMath free software-related IRC network [20:09] MinceR DaemonFC: don't forget the megacorporations [20:09] kingoffrance ok [20:09] XRevan86 kingoffrance: "cuz someone says" to CrystalMath it's more important that Andrew wrote "free speech!" than that his network banned people left and right for asking questions. [20:09] MinceR the WIPO did plenty of dirty, evil work for them [20:09] XRevan86 kingoffrance: words > actions [20:10] DaemonFC MinceR, I like how the UN works. The US didn't ratify the Law of the Sea treaty, but abides by it anyway. [20:10] kingoffrance :/ [20:10] XRevan86 Just appeal to him with words, and ye'll be set. [20:10] DaemonFC China ratified it and ignores it completely. [20:10] MinceR lol [20:11] DaemonFC China "interprets" it to mean you steal an island from the Philippines or something and you get another 200 miles off of that. [20:11] DaemonFC :) [20:11] CrystalMath XRevan86: i only saw people get banned for asking questions repeatedly with no end [20:11] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:11] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:11] CrystalMath MinceR: i tried to connect to ircnow and it just booted me out, sending seemingly-random bytes over the line [20:12] DaemonFC The US didn't ratify the treaty on the rights of the child. China did. Children in China have the same rights as anyone else in China. [20:12] DaemonFC Speak out and it's right this way, to forced labor camps, where nobody hears from you again! [20:12] CrystalMath MinceR: ngircd.... [20:13] CrystalMath what a server [20:15] XRevan86 CrystalMath: There is one person that I've no idea how they got banned whatsoever, they aren't very active on IRC. [20:15] CrystalMath then it could be by mistake [20:15] CrystalMath i mean even i was Z-lined by mistake [20:15] XRevan86 > and then k-lined the individuals who set the topics mentioning libera [20:15] XRevan86 It could be that. [20:16] CrystalMath but not everyone had that happen [20:16] CrystalMath i know people who set topics to mention libera who are still connected [20:16] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [20:17] XRevan86 CrystalMath: A lot of mistakes there. [20:18] MinceR z-lining people for having too many connections instead of just denying the new connections is really stupid, for example [20:18] XRevan86 That was pre-wipe, they're probably not banned anymore. [20:18] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [20:18] kingoffrance XRevan86, i only :/ because conway's law. there is a cycle -> permtted words -> permitted definitions -> permitted thoughts -> permitted actions -/ (loop to start) same holds for law, religion, programming languages, (but i repeat myself, twice), etc. :) [20:19] CrystalMath MinceR: well yes but [20:19] CrystalMath at this point it's better than some of the other decisions :P [20:19] CrystalMath relatively speaking [20:19] MinceR we're in a pretty damn place if we have to settle for some decisions being less bad than others [20:19] XRevan86 kingoffrance: It's great when a politician goes and says "it's time for a change" [20:19] kingoffrance so action > words, while not untrue, i add another meta layer there :) [20:19] kingoffrance lol yes [20:20] kingoffrance completely devoid of any meaning [20:20] kingoffrance let's go back to time [20:20] CrystalMath MinceR: well, freenode isn't doing well :( [20:20] CrystalMath i really wish it was, though [20:20] XRevan86 kingoffrance: And then immediately blocks anything remotely like change with all the power they got. [20:20] kingoffrance we're we operating under assumption there is no time lol [20:20] kingoffrance *where [20:20] CrystalMath we could have overcome the attacks from those communists [20:21] CrystalMath but it seems that wasn't the plan [20:21] MinceR you couldn't overcome the attacks from andrew lee, though [20:22] XRevan86 kingoffrance: Yes, when it became known what kind of people freenode got as staff in May, the trajectory in time became apparent. [20:22] XRevan86 it became a matter of "when" [20:23] kingoffrance *were [20:23] CrystalMath XRevan86: honestly no... there's some great people among new staff [20:23] CrystalMath such as Foxy [20:24] kingoffrance same theory behind political correctness too of course [20:25] XRevan86 kingoffrance: But I disgress. Really the thing about words/actions and time is that different people have different ideas about how ideas like "social justice", "free speech", etc. translate into reality, what actions get us there. [20:25] activelow why isn't this channel bridged to libera? [20:25] CrystalMath activelow: libera sucks [20:25] activelow maybe, didn't register there for, individual, reasons [20:25] XRevan86 activelow: irc.techrights.org is the only base of operations, it's consolidated. [20:25] activelow but why does libera suck otherwise? [20:26] CrystalMath libera is run by radical SJWs [20:26] CrystalMath who are anti-RMS [20:26] kingoffrance yes, i saw that recently osi IIRC faq says open source said they have same goals as free software, differ on methods. fsf disagreed with that. [20:26] CrystalMath and generally want to hijack free software, like parasites, for some other purposes [20:26] XRevan86 activelow: schestowitz doesn't want to be dependent on third-parties anymore. [20:26] MinceR what CrystalMath said [20:26] *leah has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.8) [20:26] kingoffrance evven if the "end product" of some code looks similar, different motivations [20:26] kingoffrance if nothing else, different communities [20:26] activelow this is two different questions: 1) why libera sucks. and 2) the decision techrights made [20:26] kingoffrance even if there may be overlap [20:27] CrystalMath activelow: i answered the first one [20:27] CrystalMath and XRevan86 answered the second :P [20:27] XRevan86 MinceR: Yea, they're radical SJWs, they ban left and right everyone who's remotely non-SJW. [20:27] XRevan86 like this one time [20:27] MinceR XRevan86: i see you managed to erase your memories of the letter they signed already [20:28] XRevan86 MinceR: So radical. [20:28] sears_hardware kingoffrance: Conway's law sounds fun [20:28] XRevan86 It's so horrible how they ban everyone who has a different opinions, and how they de-staff everyone who didn't sign the letter. [20:29] XRevan86 * a different set of opinions [20:29] sears_hardware XRevan86: are you talking about libera or leenode [20:29] kingoffrance sears_hardware, "agile" sort of used it too [20:29] XRevan86 sears_hardware: I'm mocking, so ye know I'm not talking about leenode :) [20:29] kingoffrance so it might have a bad name for some [20:30] XRevan86 sears_hardware: And of course on leenode the purge is a good thing, because it happens to align with CrystalMath's views, sort of. [20:30] MinceR sears_hardware: XRevan86 doesn't know what he's talking about. [20:30] kingoffrance even amongst "agile" ppl who say it got hijacked by marketing whatever [20:30] sears_hardware idk what any of y'all are talking about but lee bans people all the time [20:31] MinceR the nice thing about purging everyone is that it aligns with all views that promote any purging [20:31] MinceR lee bans people all the time, so we should use illibera? it does not follow. [20:31] sears_hardware i heard there's a nice irc netwok called techrights [20:32] MinceR indeed there is [20:32] XRevan86 MinceR waives that letter like an ultimate evidence of evil. [20:32] sears_hardware it's so amazing the possibilities when you aren't stuck choosing between microsoft and macintosh [20:32] sears_hardware and other false dichotomies [20:32] sears_hardware i still can't get over how lee talks like a stoner in irc but like a professional pr writer in freenode.net posts [20:33] XRevan86 All the people are reduced to signatures. How easy to judge, very convinient. [20:33] MinceR XRevan86: "waive" does not mean what you think it does. and yes, it's a pretty good piece of evidence, seeing how the people on the list asked their signatures to be added themselves and how it's about an SJW anti-free software agenda. [20:33] sears_hardware sounds like a blockchain [20:33] XRevan86 sears_hardware: Did ye see his last post though? [20:33] MinceR i don't see what's "professional" about "hurr durr i have no idea how mRNA works" [20:33] XRevan86 sears_hardware: It got a lot more stoner-like. [20:33] sears_hardware i saw the one where he said freenode is moving to "blockchain-basesd authentication" [20:33] sears_hardware on "ethereum and handshake" [20:33] MinceR ooh, blockchain [20:34] *MinceR sprinkles some more buzzwords on [20:34] MinceR it could be a smart AI on the blockchain in the serverless cloud [20:35] XRevan86 MinceR: I like how neither of us actually knows anything about these people,. [20:35] CrystalMath XRevan86: libera conducted many purges, they were famous for it, but they did it when they were known as "freenode" [20:35] MinceR i do know something about them [20:35] MinceR XRevan86: you may have managed to wipe your knowledge, though [20:35] MinceR including the affiliations several of them have with ibm and microsoft [20:35] CrystalMath XRevan86: libera ircops are horrible fascist people [20:36] CrystalMath the infamous jesstapo [20:36] CrystalMath they were mostly notorious when they known as *freenode* though [20:36] CrystalMath but why should i trust them now? [20:36] kingoffrance sears_hardware, i think devops is another example, trying to bring previously separate positions closer [20:36] CrystalMath what, they learned the error of their ways? fat chance [20:36] sears_hardware kingoffrance: the pendulum swingeth and the pendulum returneth [20:36] kingoffrance trying to get previously separate people to "speak the same language" [20:36] MinceR CrystalMath: the ability to kill/kline lots of people attracts the wrong sorts of people to ircop positions at major irc networks [20:37] CrystalMath unfortunately the true free software world is still missing a good IRC network [20:38] MinceR it seems there are plenty of good irc networks, i even know a few [20:38] MinceR and they don't ban discussion of free software [20:38] sears_hardware truth we see not but true [20:38] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I really don't care about ##truth, that could be the difference in judgement. Like ye didn't care about the Charybdis situation. [20:39] CrystalMath XRevan86: you also don't care about all the free software developers that got k-lined for supporting Trump [20:39] XRevan86 MinceR: I don't have decent information around that. Being involved in the Fedora community is not something I would judge a person for. [20:39] CrystalMath but technically that was on freenode [20:40] CrystalMath oh, at least one was k-lined from libera as well [20:40] CrystalMath heh [20:40] CrystalMath once a scumbag, always a scumbag applies to libera's ircops [20:40] kingoffrance sears_hardware, i'd even put that as related https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horror_vacui_(physics) [20:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Horror vacui (physics) - Wikipedia [20:40] XRevan86 CrystalMath: If they're anything like JesusGod-Pope666.Info, then I can try to understand that decision. [20:40] MinceR XRevan86: try board members then [20:40] CrystalMath XRevan86: who the heck is that? [20:41] MinceR XRevan86: and that cesspit of evil known as the "gnome foundation" [20:41] CrystalMath XRevan86: there are peaceful, calm Trump supporters who just oppose socialism and work on free software [20:41] CrystalMath they attack no one [20:41] CrystalMath they start no fights [20:41] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Just a person that is delivering the Truth to us, that Catholicism is Satan. [20:41] CrystalMath that sounds like some nut [20:41] CrystalMath does that person work on free software? [20:42] CrystalMath a lot of the people i'm talking about can be found on the pro-RMS signature list [20:42] kingoffrance sears_hardware, since anything not permitted is "void" so gets replaced with something using "permitted language" whatever [20:42] CrystalMath especially the non-western names there [20:42] XRevan86 MinceR: Also not a homogenous organisation. [20:42] kingoffrance as in, the permitted language permeates all [20:43] sears_hardware kingoffrance: very artistic [20:43] MinceR XRevan86: i wouldn't worry about that, they'll probably get rid of everyone who isn't "woke" enough eventually [20:44] sears_hardware real talk though - anyone who isn't woke that still stays there deserves their fate [20:44] sears_hardware did you know that there are still people who use facebook? [20:44] MinceR yes, sadly [20:44] sears_hardware and i don't mean africans i mean people that live in the 1st world [20:44] MinceR "dumb fucks", as fuckerberg would say [20:45] sears_hardware at this point i agree with him [20:45] XRevan86 A lot of Ukrai ah, 1st world, never mind. [20:45] sears_hardware rip ukraine, pawn on the geopolitical chessboard [20:45] kingoffrance well, that was h.l. mencken. nature abhors a moron lol [20:46] XRevan86 sears_hardware: They're riding the wave better than Belarus' at least. [20:48] XRevan86 Russia and Belarus' had disproportionately huge IT, now it's Ukraine. [20:49] XRevan86 people actually relocate to Ukraine, that's how rip they are [20:52] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [20:52] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [20:54] CrystalMath real talk though - anyone who isn't woke that still stays there deserves their fate - i said the same thing about libera.crap [20:54] CrystalMath so i even told my friend that i shed no tear about him being banned from illibera as i told him not to go there anyway [20:54] CrystalMath good people should not be there [20:54] XRevan86 CrystalMath: A channel there? The snippet ye shared? [20:55] CrystalMath XRevan86: yes, this person was also k-lined now that i remember [20:56] CrystalMath but, sigh, i guess i could host my open source project channels on Rizon [20:57] XRevan86 CrystalMath: That's suspicious. [20:57] CrystalMath as long as the users and other developers are okay with the kawaii moe stuff that permeates rizon, it should be fine :P ● Aug 09 [21:00] CrystalMath perhaps a specific network for free software is not needed [21:01] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Is hackint "left-wing"? [21:03] activelow XRevan86: there is a tendency, yes. such as "pirate party" which proclaimed to protect civil liberties and was elected into Berlin parliament, some time ago. [21:04] activelow later this movement was hijacked by former "socialist union party" (the left, which renamed itself after 1990 severl times) [21:04] activelow doesn't mean hackint is left, nonetheless often party politics hijack [21:05] CrystalMath XRevan86: hackint is fine but disallows plaintext connections [21:05] activelow similar to FSFE, which is a party politics outlet of the self-proclaimed "liberals" [21:05] CrystalMath XRevan86: which is very unfortunate [21:05] XRevan86 Wait, do people still want clear-text connections? [21:05] CrystalMath yes [21:06] XRevan86 not even as legacy? [21:06] MinceR yes, people do [21:06] CrystalMath in fact what impacted my channels the most is that people did not want to do SSL [21:06] XRevan86 but like straight-up "please, give me clear-text" [21:06] CrystalMath on freenode [21:06] CrystalMath yes [21:06] CrystalMath XRevan86: SSL bloats IRC to 6 times its size [21:06] MinceR generally, IRC is public [21:07] MinceR some people use ancient clients [21:07] CrystalMath MinceR: PMs aren't :P [21:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.73 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 89.05 swarm size (avg): 276.48 [21:07] CrystalMath this is why i use SSL [21:07] CrystalMath at least i should use SSL for networks where i PM [21:07] CrystalMath but i use it for all [21:07] MinceR CrystalMath: or you could use Tox over Tor, or RetroShare over Tor for that :> [21:07] MinceR even if you use TLS/SSL, in theory admins could read and change your PMs [21:07] CrystalMath yeah [21:08] CrystalMath but i don't think they will :P [21:08] MinceR then again, you could use DCC CHAT [21:08] MinceR with or without TLS [21:08] Ariadne CrystalMath: also, i think that if we were to refuse support to a "communist" you would be thrilled with that decision [21:08] CrystalMath so many of my friends refuse to use hackint [21:08] CrystalMath Ariadne: no [21:09] CrystalMath Ariadne: freenode deopped two people for banning people for communism [21:09] CrystalMath (insomnia and phanes :P) [21:09] CrystalMath (at this point phanes was only a #freenode chanop) [21:10] *Ariadne shrugs [21:10] CrystalMath Ariadne: you see the fact is that the political opinions of developers should be irrelevant [21:10] CrystalMath because developers should have no power [21:11] *mib_waruvt has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [21:11] CrystalMath that's the whole point [21:11] *cow_2001 has quit (Quit: cow_2001) [21:11] Ariadne i have the power to choose what i spend my time on [21:11] CrystalMath developers have no responsibility to improve the demographics of free software projects [21:11] CrystalMath why? because they should have no power [21:11] CrystalMath with no power comes no responsibility [21:11] Ariadne providing technical support to andrew lee's friends is not something i am required to spend my time on [21:12] *XRevan86 curious about if developers/moderators should have the power to shut people off who speak the Truth about Satan [21:12] CrystalMath the list of Andrew Lee's friends is really just freenode.net/people, the rest are now less liked [21:14] CrystalMath XRevan86: honestly i don't, unless it's severe spam [21:14] CrystalMath which it often becomes [21:14] Ariadne CrystalMath is not doing, allah is doing [21:14] Ariadne techrights is not doing, allah is doing [21:15] XRevan86 Ariadne: Oh, I see ye're a woman of culture. [21:15] Ariadne i forget the rest of the spam [21:15] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I am filing a lawsuit against Lemonade. [21:15] Ariadne wtf is lemonade [21:15] XRevan86 Knowing the Ramzan Kadyrov's phrase. [21:15] DaemonFC For violating the Illinois Biometric Privacy Act. [21:15] DaemonFC A renter's and homeowner's insurance app. [21:15] Ariadne o [21:15] Ariadne i am boring [21:16] DaemonFC I submitted a loss and they took my facial biometrics and stored them. [21:16] XRevan86 ( https://youtu.be/CG2ijbTappY ) [21:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- , - YouTube [21:16] Ariadne i use USAA for homeowner's insurance [21:16] DaemonFC So now I have standing to file a lawsuit against them for that. [21:16] DaemonFC So I'm retaining an attorney. [21:16] XRevan86 (No matter what we ask of you, ye say "from Allah" and ye prove that not from Allah!) [21:16] CrystalMath XRevan86: this was spammed all over freenode years ago [21:16] DaemonFC Ariadne, They'll probably settle. [21:17] XRevan86 Conclusion: Putin is Allah [21:17] Ariadne yeah what CrystalMath said [21:17] CrystalMath i think it was skraito's doing [21:17] CrystalMath but skraito is not doing, Allah is doing [21:17] CrystalMath so i don't know [21:17] DaemonFC Some of it will be monetary damages, of course, but I'll ask for part of the settlement to be that they cease the practice and destroy all of the records they took previously if we can do that. [21:17] XRevan86 CrystalMath, Ariadne: Just a coincidence? A pity. [21:18] CrystalMath XRevan86: yeah it would go like "the sun is not doing, Allah is doing; the moon is not doing, Allah is doing" [21:18] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:18] Ariadne the moon is definitely doing [21:18] CrystalMath XRevan86: sometimes "freenode is not doing, Allah is doing" [21:18] CrystalMath i remmeber that one as well [21:18] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:19] psydruid Putin Hu Akbar, Alhamdulilah [21:19] Ariadne also, [21:19] Ariadne gpsd 3.23 is out in most distros today [21:19] Ariadne if you use gps for timekeeping [21:19] Ariadne you should really upgrade [21:19] Ariadne if you don't, October 24th is going to be a bad day for you [21:19] Ariadne because your system will be taking a trip back to 2001 [21:19] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I feel a spiritual connection with my President just reading that. [21:20] CrystalMath XRevan86: you live in Chechnya?? [21:20] *Ariadne debates making chicken tetrazini for dinner [21:20] XRevan86 CrystalMath: No, the other one. [21:20] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [21:21] Ariadne CrystalMath: at any rate, evilnet is not blocked from getting their support from not-me [21:21] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [21:21] XRevan86 CrystalMath: https://youtu.be/CG2ijbTappY [21:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- , - YouTube [21:21] XRevan86 oops, wrong one [21:21] Ariadne i think it is acceptable to attach preconditions to how my time gets volunteered [21:21] XRevan86 https://youtu.be/KgsmvZcADbU [21:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-: - YouTube [21:24] CrystalMath XRevan86: yes i remember that [21:24] CrystalMath :) [21:24] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Did ye see this one: https://youtu.be/RfZqK5YuPLI ? [21:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- - YouTube [21:25] DaemonFC Where is schestowitz actually? [21:25] XRevan86 CrystalMath: 17s and 50s are the good moments. [21:25] DaemonFC I don't like it when companies do this facial recognition crap. [21:25] Ariadne hmm, true [21:25] DaemonFC I'd sue them primarily to poke them in the eye, honestly. They need to cut this out. [21:25] Ariadne schestowitz has been gone all day [21:25] Ariadne wonder what that is about [21:26] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Ye should get "I am Russia, don, Russia is I" without translation :). [21:27] Ariadne i should go visit my grandparents again next week [21:27] Ariadne the IKEA finally has blahaj back in stock [21:27] *psydruid - - [21:30] DaemonFC Ariadne, Lemonade is basically a tech company that buys reinsurance. [21:30] XRevan86 psydruid: , , . ? :) [21:30] DaemonFC It's insane, but they offer low rates. [21:30] gustaf blhaj [21:30] Ariadne DaemonFC: shit like that should be illegal [21:31] DaemonFC Yeah, that's how MetroMile has been operating too. [21:31] Ariadne you should have a direct relationship with your insurance agent [21:31] Ariadne anything else is insane [21:32] DaemonFC There's no agent. [21:32] DaemonFC Just an app. [21:33] DaemonFC MetroMile makes more money. If you get a quote in a state they don't operate in, they quietly forward it to other insurance companies and then by the time you get a "Sorry." page, you're forwarded to Progressive or something and they have all your info. [21:33] DaemonFC That way they get a commission for routing business to companies they don't compete with in that state. [21:34] DaemonFC brb [21:34] Ariadne yes [21:34] Ariadne that's insane [21:35] psydruid XRevan86, ju mwi po polsku, nawet lepiej ni po rosyjsku i po serbsku, ale podobaj mi si wicej rosyjski, ukraiski i serbski :) [21:36] kingoffrance "That way they get a commission for routing business to companies they don't compete with in that state." am i missing something, or does that sound like collusion/monopoly/ ? [21:36] DaemonFC Ariadne, Well, when some traditional insurance company offers me a better deal... [21:36] kingoffrance maybe a less severe word, but ... [21:37] kingoffrance cartel, bro! [21:38] Ariadne DaemonFC: and when your fly by night insurance doesn't pay out and you get sued? :p [21:38] Ariadne i can't believe that flies in illinois [21:39] Ariadne they would never let that shit happen here [21:39] *Techrights-sec has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) [21:39] DaemonFC DaemonFC: and when your fly by night insurance doesn't pay out and you get sued? :p [21:39] DaemonFC Illinois forces the other party to sue the insurance company first, up to your limits. [21:40] DaemonFC The state also forces them to have an account with the state with enough money in it to pay expected claims outstanding if they stop doing business here or declare bankruptcy. [21:40] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [21:40] DaemonFC If they tried that, the claim would be paid out from the account on file with the state government. [21:41] DaemonFC That's why I figure it's safe enough to do business with MetroMile or Root. [21:42] DaemonFC Ariadne, The standard practice with insurance companies and claims is to try to snow the person making the claim under and minimize the settlement offer. [21:43] DaemonFC You'll get that whether you go with MetroMile or Allstate or State Farm or Liberty Mutual. [21:44] DaemonFC If they simply paid out and didn't try to lowball people and stall things, they'd end up paying more money and then they'd turn around and raise everybody's rates. [21:44] Ariadne in oklahoma, they are limited in how much they can do that [21:44] Ariadne if i total someone's car [21:45] Ariadne they get a new car of equal value [21:45] Ariadne it's the law [21:45] DaemonFC In Indiana in 2002, a drunk driver took his daughter's car and went drinking. He blew threw a stoplight and rammed the side of my car. [21:45] DaemonFC Progressive, his daughter's insurance company, offered me $2,200 and said they'd take the car. [21:46] Ariadne yeah theyre not allowed to do that here :) [21:46] DaemonFC I told them I wanted the book value of the car, which was $2,800, and I'd keep the car. I'm not a litigious person but I wasn't going to let them roll me like that. [21:46] DaemonFC I ended up getting the car back and the $2,800. [21:47] DaemonFC I took it to some hillbilly mechanic out in the country and had him put some doors on it I got at a junkyard. Between paying for those and paying him, I got the car fixed for about $800 and kept the $2,000 for myself. The drunk driver went to jail. [21:48] DaemonFC Progressive also had to reimburse my insurance for putting me in a rental car for two weeks, because my policy covered it. [21:48] DaemonFC So they ended up paying $60 a day for that for 14 days. [21:48] XRevan86 psydruid: , , , , . [21:53] DaemonFC Ariadne On the surface, the idea is sound. [21:53] DaemonFC Per-mile insurance. [21:53] DaemonFC They can quantify how much risk is involved, on average, per mile traveled, and charge for most of the month based on that. [21:54] psydruid XRevan86, , [21:54] DaemonFC You can game it a little bit by making an effort to find the route with the shortest distance. The funny thing is, that might encourage you to take a riskier path. [21:55] XRevan86 psydruid: "lepiej", , . [21:58] XRevan86 psydruid: "wicej" : "more", . "" "" ( /). [21:59] DaemonFC I actually gave a "lemons" example yesterday. ● Aug 09 [22:00] DaemonFC The company that bags the lemons that get sold at Walmart says they're 2 pound bags. But the bags are anywhere from 2 to 2.35 pounds out of the 11 bags I checked that day. [22:00] XRevan86 psydruid: , %). [22:00] DaemonFC If you take the time to weigh all of them, you can leave with 2.35 pounds of lemons instead of 2. Other people won't have the 2.35 pound bag available and probably won't check, and will leave with fewer lemons at the same price you paid. [22:01] DaemonFC The company broke no laws because of variance rules, you broke no laws because the store said each bag of lemons is the same price. [22:01] DaemonFC So within the law, you're a little better off at everyone else's expense. [22:02] psydruid XRevan86: , :) [22:05] XRevan86 psydruid: , ( XVIII ), , - . [22:10] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:10] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:12] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [22:12] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [22:12] AdmFubar https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210805/07520947306/us-press-softsells-real-scope-atts-merger-incompetence-ensuring-it-will-happen-again.shtml [22:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-US Press Softsells The Real Scope Of AT&T's Merger Incompetence, Ensuring It Will Happen Again | Techdirt [22:13] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [22:16] *mib_waruvt (~6b02bae1@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [22:23] AdmFubar https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210804/17103947305/ny-legislators-offer-up-bill-that-would-allow-cops-to-sue-people-not-doing-enough-bootlicking.shtml [22:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NY Legislators Offer Up Bill That Would Allow Cops To Sue People For Not Doing Enough Bootlicking | Techdirt [22:23] AdmFubar https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-firm-asks-google-to-block-127-0-0-1-210808/ [22:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Anti-Piracy Firm Asks Google to Block 127.0.0.1 * TorrentFreak [22:25] AdmFubar https://torrentfreak.com/pub-testers-being-recruited-to-clamp-down-on-football-piracy-210808/ [22:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-'Pub Testers' Being Recruited To Clamp Down on Football Piracy * TorrentFreak [22:32] psydruid XRevan86, I use the references I find in works like http://sanskrt.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/LekhaCognate-Words-in-Sanskrit-and-Russian.pdf to map many words I learn in Russian and other Slavic languages to those in Sanskrit and Hindi (where applicable), because I find it just makes more sense that way [22:35] AdmFubar https://hackaday.com/2021/08/09/using-a-laser-to-blast-away-a-bayer-array/ [22:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Using A Laser To Blast Away A Bayer Array | Hackaday [22:38] *mib_bk18e8 (~48dee8f9@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [22:44] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/21071537 [22:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5677042) [22:45] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [22:45] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [22:46] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:46] *mib_bk18e8 has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [22:48] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) ● Aug 09 [23:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.88 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 66.15 swarm size (avg): 276.44 [23:11] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:11] *libertybox_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:11] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:13] *mib_bk18e8 (~48dee8f9@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [23:15] *mib_waruvt has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [23:15] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [23:15] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [23:15] *libertybox_ (~schestowitz_log@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [23:20] *mib_bk18e8 has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [23:31] DaemonFC I don't know what the size of the settlement would be. [23:32] DaemonFC Some other BIPA settlements have landed the lead plaintiffs like $50,000 or more after the attorney fees. [23:32] DaemonFC That would be hilarious. John got mugged, I filed an insurance claim, BIPA lawsuit happens, I get a windfall. [23:33] DaemonFC John never figures out that any of this happened. [23:33] DaemonFC Meanwhile, I'm driving around in a brand new Big-Ass Car. [23:33] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [23:34] DaemonFC With money leftover for a down payment on a house and to wipe my records. [23:35] DaemonFC The universe is a funny place. [23:35] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@e7nhetqhefcbe.irc) has joined #techrights [23:36] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [23:40] *mib_bk18e8 (~48dee8f9@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [23:41] *schestowitz back [23:41] schestowitz we have another explosive expose coming short. Part 4. [23:42] schestowitz Croatia and N. Macedonia [23:42] MinceR big ass-car [23:42] schestowitz big-ass car? [23:42] schestowitz or part ass, part car? [23:43] MinceR a car that's either made of ass or is designed to transport asses [23:43] MinceR which is big [23:43] schestowitz BTW [23:43] schestowitz analogy came to mind [23:43] schestowitz seeing what rianne put in tuxmachines [23:43] schestowitz us moving off the big IRC networks? [23:44] schestowitz a lot like valve and linux [23:44] schestowitz no matter the market share of linux on valve [23:44] schestowitz valve DOES NOT want to be at Microsoft's mercy [23:44] schestowitz and it's run by someone from MIcorosoft [23:44] schestowitz who should know well why [23:44] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [23:44] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [23:45] MinceR and yet valve is at microsoft's mercy [23:45] MinceR and as long as steamos is based on Linux and Linux is controlled by the LDF which is controlled by microsoft, valve remains at microsoft's mercy [23:46] *Techrights-sec has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) [23:47] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [23:49] *mib_bk18e8 has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [23:54] *alextee has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:57] *mib_bk18e8 (~48dee8f9@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [23:58] schestowitz still vastly better than basing on Windows [23:58] schestowitz you cannot compete with Microsoft when you use Microsoft things, inc. shithub [23:58] schestowitz so valve need to delete that, too [23:59] DaemonFC I found that cronie for Linux is now on GitHub. [23:59] MinceR vastly better, but the difference is being reduced all the time