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Join us now at the IRC channel. on the other hand is technically quite goodNov 09 00:00
schestowitzyes, it isNov 09 00:01
schestowitzbut it has made mistakes tooNov 09 00:01
schestowitznobody is perfect :-)Nov 09 00:01
scientesyes, their stuff on race conditions was pretty brokenNov 09 00:01
scientesthere was this articleNov 09 00:01
scientesbasically they should just use the C++ memory model like everyone elseNov 09 00:02
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scientesand maybe write some tests that the code generated is good in the places where it mattersNov 09 00:03
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DaemonFC[m] 09 00:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Trump Will Return to a Struggling BusinessNov 09 00:07
DaemonFC[m]Trump won't be able to direct taxpayer money (not to mention bribery from foreign governments) to his properties after he leaves office.Nov 09 00:07
schestowitzwaitNov 09 00:07
schestowitzthe fun part starts thereNov 09 00:07
schestowitzDems will open up filesNov 09 00:07
schestowitzand find out if he illegally funneled moneyNov 09 00:07
scientesschestowitz, $23 trillionNov 09 00:08
schestowitzand that's where Trump considers taking a revolver to his headNov 09 00:08
scientesor whatever it isNov 09 00:08
schestowitz27Nov 09 00:08
scientesits more like a chuteNov 09 00:08
scientesa funnel is too small for all this moneyNov 09 00:08
schestowitzmaybe he's 'do a Lincoln' on himselfNov 09 00:08
schestowitz(Project Lincoln)Nov 09 00:08
schestowitzor maybe he'll just leak doorknobs with covid on themNov 09 00:09
schestowitzto "own the libs"Nov 09 00:09
scientesaparently they are trying to prop up the commercial real estate sector by opening the chute widerNov 09 00:09
scientesits like goatsceNov 09 00:09
scienteshow wide will it open?Nov 09 00:09
DaemonFC[m] 09 00:09
schestowitzvZS1: if you scroll down a bit you'll see under IRC the table with CIDs in 09 00:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Biden wins presidency: Live updates - The Washington PostNov 09 00:10
DaemonFC[m]Layoffs and bankruptcies of his properties already.Nov 09 00:10
DaemonFC[m]With $427 million in loan payments coming due very soon.Nov 09 00:10
CrystalMathwouldn't be the first timeNov 09 00:10
scienteswhy do you need updatesNov 09 00:10
DaemonFC[m]The part of the speculation of a Trump 2024 campaign is really amusing, not just because he'll have filed bankruptcy again by then and be completely broke.Nov 09 00:10
schestowitzhis wife is divorcing him BTWNov 09 00:10
schestowitzthird divorceNov 09 00:10
CrystalMathnot the first time for that eitherNov 09 00:11
schestowitzwhat a "Success"Nov 09 00:11
schestowitzso much "Winning"Nov 09 00:11
schestowitzhe weaponised closeted racism in the USNov 09 00:11
schestowitzset it all looseNov 09 00:11
DaemonFC[m]"But he could also embrace new sources of revenue — perhaps a return to television, where his work on NBC’s “The Apprentice” once provided millions in cash."Nov 09 00:11
schestowitzto gain power and keep it for a whileNov 09 00:11
schestowitzand now the damage is done and it can take many decades to fixNov 09 00:11
DaemonFC[m]Wrong. Trump is more toxic now. Nobody is going to do a TV deal with a guy like him.Nov 09 00:12
schestowitzafter slavery and reparations and allNov 09 00:12
DaemonFC[m]It's not good business anymore.Nov 09 00:12
MinceRnot even fox noise?Nov 09 00:12
schestowitzBreitbartNov 09 00:12
MinceRdoes breitbart have a tv channel?Nov 09 00:12
schestowitzBreitbutt, breitfartNov 09 00:12
schestowitzMinceR: they might have a "tv celeb"Nov 09 00:13
schestowitzdonnie covfefeNov 09 00:13
CrystalMathhonestly why the hell did he take out loans now?Nov 09 00:14
DaemonFC[m]Fox News was the first TV network to call Arizona for Biden.Nov 09 00:14
DaemonFC[m]Even when I think they really jumped the gun on that one.Nov 09 00:14
CrystalMathisn't he like really oldNov 09 00:14
CrystalMathhe should have been preparing for retirementNov 09 00:14
MinceRmaybe he believes he'll live foreverNov 09 00:14
DaemonFC[m]What's up with  that?Nov 09 00:14
CrystalMaththough maybe i'm wrong, maybe Trump isn't like thatNov 09 00:16
CrystalMathTrump prefers the volatile lifestyleNov 09 00:16
CrystalMathmaybeNov 09 00:16
DaemonFC[m]"Fox News’s audience plummeted yesterday after Biden became president-elect. During the Biden/Harris speeches, Fox had 3 million viewers, the lowest total of any network."Nov 09 00:18
DaemonFC[m]Their viewers are furious with them for calling Arizona for Biden.Nov 09 00:18
CrystalMathbecause FoxNews turned on TrumpNov 09 00:18
DaemonFC[m]This could be the end of Fox News.Nov 09 00:18
CrystalMathand congratulated BidenNov 09 00:18
CrystalMathyeahNov 09 00:18
CrystalMatha well deserved endNov 09 00:18
MinceR 09 00:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4859715)Nov 09 00:19
CrystalMathalthough i suppose the Fox Network is pretty bigNov 09 00:19
CrystalMaththey're popular all over the worldNov 09 00:19
MinceRwell, there were some "republicans" that started fleeing the trumpanic earlyNov 09 00:19
MinceRmaybe fox noise will be their networkNov 09 00:20
MinceRmaybe the "republican" party will turn away from dump and it will be theirsNov 09 00:20
CrystalMaththen i'm not interested in the gopNov 09 00:20
CrystalMathif it's gonna be people like Romney? no wayNov 09 00:20
MinceRit always was :>Nov 09 00:20
MinceRwell, that's not trueNov 09 00:20
DaemonFC[m]Romney voted to convict Trump and remove him from office.Nov 09 00:21
MinceRthey used to be a liberal/libertarian party long agoNov 09 00:21
DaemonFC[m]They've had a feud for some time.Nov 09 00:21
CrystalMathDaemonFC[m]: yeah, because he's a bastardNov 09 00:21
CrystalMathhe's always been a bastardNov 09 00:21
CrystalMathit's just that Trump didn't see itNov 09 00:21
DaemonFC[m]Romney wanted a cabinet job and Trump invited him over for dinner and then humiliated him.Nov 09 00:21
MinceRor at least the less authoritarian of the two partiesNov 09 00:21
CrystalMathbut i knew it since 2012Nov 09 00:21
DaemonFC[m]The same people who voted for Romney in 2012 voted for McCain in 2008 and Bush and Trump.Nov 09 00:21
DaemonFC[m]So it's not like these are different people and who the fuck did that... You know?Nov 09 00:22
CrystalMathwell it would certainly not be meNov 09 00:22
DaemonFC[m]So they can't really weasel out of picking or trying to pick horrible presidents.Nov 09 00:22
CrystalMathi would have wrote in Ron Paul or something in 2012Nov 09 00:22
MinceRwell, certainly, as you're not an uhmerican citizenNov 09 00:22
CrystalMathand Ron Paul in 2008Nov 09 00:22
CrystalMathMinceR: speaking hypotheticallyNov 09 00:22
DaemonFC[m]I voted for Obama twice.Nov 09 00:22
CrystalMathMinceR: also it would require time travelNov 09 00:23
CrystalMathsince 2012-me would have voted for ObamaNov 09 00:23
CrystalMathbut 2012 me was an idiotNov 09 00:23
DaemonFC[m]I wasn't really political until I saw Bush steal the 2000 election and even then not really until after the wars and the "patriot" act. Nov 09 00:23
CrystalMathi didn't see bush steal the 2000 election, i saw a burnt down building and was incorrectly told that it was destroyed by NATO forcesNov 09 00:24
DaemonFC[m]But I was only 17 when Bush stole the election with the court. And it was much easier than it would be with Trump because Bush was ahead in the original count and he stopped the recount when things were going Al Gore's way, in one state.Nov 09 00:24
CrystalMathand i decided that i'll never forgive ClintonNov 09 00:24
CrystalMathalthough that building burnt down due to some bad wiring, actuallyNov 09 00:24
DaemonFC[m]So Trump would have to reverse four states where Biden is much much further ahead than Bush in Florida in 2000.Nov 09 00:24
CrystalMathDaemonFC[m]: except the software glitch moved it by a lotNov 09 00:25
DaemonFC[m]And it was a major undertaking in Florida in 2000 for the Republicans to stop the recount.Nov 09 00:25
DaemonFC[m]It was hundreds of lawyers and dozens of corrupt public officials, and things were a lot more murky with the ballots because of those shitty ballots and punch cards.Nov 09 00:25
CrystalMathhonestly, if Trump somehow wins, i hope that those dem bastards who screwed with the election get what's coming to themNov 09 00:25
CrystalMaththat would be justiceNov 09 00:26
DaemonFC[m]Nobody screwed with the election except Trump.Nov 09 00:26
DaemonFC[m]He cheated with things like the post office sabotage.Nov 09 00:26
CrystalMathyes they did, the software gave Biden extra votesNov 09 00:26
DaemonFC[m]And it was clearly still not enough.Nov 09 00:26
DaemonFC[m]So Biden's real win would be much bigger.Nov 09 00:26
MinceR 09 00:26
DaemonFC[m]The post office admits now that they delayed at least 180,000 votes nationwide so they wouldn't get to the election offices in time.Nov 09 00:27
schestowitzcan anyone help me figure out why the CSS in this page is not being picked up?Nov 09 00:27
schestowitz 09 00:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: Sunday, November 08, 2020Nov 09 00:27
DaemonFC[m]So Biden probably should have gotten at least 100,000 more votes that may or may not ever count.Nov 09 00:27
CrystalMathDaemonFC[m]: maybe from dead peopleNov 09 00:27
CrystalMathDaemonFC[m]: and people born in 1832Nov 09 00:27
DaemonFC[m]You cannot be serious.Nov 09 00:27
CrystalMathyes, this stuff happenedNov 09 00:27
CrystalMaththere are witnessesNov 09 00:27
DaemonFC[m]Barack Obama won Indiana under the most severe Voter ID law in the country.Nov 09 00:28
CrystalMathvoting by mail is a disasterNov 09 00:28
schestowitzworks well when hosted locally 09 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Sunday, November 08, 2020Nov 09 00:28
CrystalMaththe only thing more outrageously fake is online votingNov 09 00:28
DaemonFC[m]How would he have cheated that? It was almost entirely in person too.Nov 09 00:28
CrystalMathDaemonFC[m]: Obama didn't lose, Biden lostNov 09 00:28
DaemonFC[m]Well, almost no online voting except for a few states for military members.Nov 09 00:28
schestowitzthe URLs and domains are hard-coded why does ipfs stuff not pick the css file?Nov 09 00:28
DaemonFC[m]So unless you mean you want to cheat military members out of their votes then, okay?Nov 09 00:29
DaemonFC[m]They deserve to vote too.Nov 09 00:29
CrystalMathDaemonFC[m]: this year cheating was made possible by voting by mailNov 09 00:29
DaemonFC[m]Trump's talking about throwing away their votes.Nov 09 00:29
CrystalMaththe software completely miscounted stuff, likely deliberatelyNov 09 00:29
DaemonFC[m]Wrong.Nov 09 00:29
DaemonFC[m]And the reason Trump isn't coughing up the recount money is he knows he's full of shit.Nov 09 00:30
DaemonFC[m]And those fundraising emails to challenge the election say in the fine print that most of it will not be used for that.Nov 09 00:30
DaemonFC[m]It says that 2/3rds will be used to pay down his campaign debt.Nov 09 00:30
MinceRi, too, hope that the bastards that sabotaged the USPS and then spread lies about the ballots that were delayed by this to screw with the election get what's coming to themNov 09 00:30
CrystalMathMinceR: voting by mail at this massive scale should never have been allowedNov 09 00:31
CrystalMathso i forgive Trump if he did sabotage USPSNov 09 00:31
CrystalMathnot the latter part, thoughNov 09 00:31
schestowitzis there something that says a css file cannot be imported from another domain? doubt it...Nov 09 00:31
DaemonFC[m]He'll never be the president again.Nov 09 00:31
MinceRyeah, they should have all gone in person, coughed in each others' mouths and licked in each others' ears. hail Nurgle!Nov 09 00:31
DaemonFC[m]12 diet cokes a day and diet of mcdonalds and kfc.Nov 09 00:31
DaemonFC[m]Never touches vegetables.Nov 09 00:31
DaemonFC[m]I mean, he is a vegetable with a very carrot-like coloring, but other than that.Nov 09 00:32
CrystalMathMinceR: people can wear masksNov 09 00:32
MinceRmasks do not make people 100% immune to SARS-CoV-2Nov 09 00:32
MinceRfunny thing, there was some drive-in voting to reduce the risk and cheeto hitler also tried to sabotage thatNov 09 00:32
CrystalMathof course not, they prevent it from spreading when you're in a situation that could spread itNov 09 00:32
MinceRbecause he's a nurglite piece of shitNov 09 00:33
MinceRno, they don't prevent it, they merely make it less riskyNov 09 00:33
DaemonFC[m]He most likely won't be alive in 4 years.Nov 09 00:33
CrystalMathunless he wins this yearNov 09 00:33
DaemonFC[m]He had some propaganda doctor release a political statement that said he was in great health, but we all know that's ridiculous.Nov 09 00:33
CrystalMathalthough, then he'll be hit by the curse of TecumsehNov 09 00:33
DaemonFC[m]He never would have lived through a second term even had he won.Nov 09 00:33
CrystalMathso yeah, i don't know if he'll be with us in 2024 :(Nov 09 00:34
DaemonFC[m]Curse of Ronald McDonald.Nov 09 00:34
MinceRlolNov 09 00:34
DaemonFC[m]Anal cancer maybe.Nov 09 00:34
DaemonFC[m]From eating all of those fish supremes and chocolate malteds.Nov 09 00:34
DaemonFC[m]Whatever those are.Nov 09 00:34
superkuhThere were not masks produced and made available to the public. They were restricted to health workers and the like. Unfit, flappy, open fabric covers are not masks that prevent *you* from getting sick.Nov 09 00:34
superkuhThe government should've been setting up long term production orders with Ameritech and 3M back in Feb.Nov 09 00:35
CrystalMathsuperkuh: but if everoyne wears them...Nov 09 00:35
MinceRi have an FFP3 mask, but even that does not give 100% protectionNov 09 00:35
superkuhBut even know they aren't operating to capacity.Nov 09 00:35
CrystalMathi only wear the flappy onesNov 09 00:35
DaemonFC[m]I just have a bunch of shitty cloth masks like most people in America.Nov 09 00:35
CrystalMathbecause i don't care if i get sickNov 09 00:35
DaemonFC[m]The great Trump economy couldn't even get ahold of masks, gloves, or hand sanitizer.Nov 09 00:35
CrystalMathit's just to stop me from spreading itNov 09 00:35
DaemonFC[m]Seriously, couldn't find hand sanitizer for 4 months during the worst pandemic in over a century.Nov 09 00:36
CrystalMathin that scenarioNov 09 00:36
MinceRthe flappy ones aren't as good at stopping the spread eitherNov 09 00:36
superkuhWell, sure, at the start things were forgivable.Nov 09 00:36
superkuhBut now? Not so much.Nov 09 00:36
superkuhThere should be production and distribution.Nov 09 00:36
CrystalMathMinceR: but if i get covid-19, and i die, i obey the almighty will of NatureNov 09 00:36
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: No, which is why we're at 150,000 confirmed cases per day now.Nov 09 00:36
DaemonFC[m]12,000 of them in Illinois alone.Nov 09 00:36
CrystalMathi won't even get treated for cancer if i get thatNov 09 00:37
CrystalMathand i would refuse ventilatorsNov 09 00:37
CrystalMathif i need oneNov 09 00:37
CrystalMathfor any reasonNov 09 00:37
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schestowitz"Nov 09 00:39
schestowitzBlocked loading mixed active content ""Nov 09 00:39
Digitwould be cool to see more how-to to follow the hopes that more will follow. showing the way too, not just exemplifying and hoping.  :)Nov 09 00:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Techrights is Now on the Decentralised Web | TechrightsNov 09 00:39
schestowitzLoading mixed (insecure) display content "" on a secure pageNov 09 00:39
schestowitz"Nov 09 00:39
schestowitzOh, I found the culprit thenNov 09 00:39
DaemonFC[m]That was Biden's best moment.Nov 09 00:39
DaemonFC[m]When Trump made it obvious how clueless and uncaring he was.Nov 09 00:39
DaemonFC[m]"People are learning to live with it!"Nov 09 00:39
DaemonFC[m]And then Biden says, "No, Mr. President. People are dying of it.".Nov 09 00:39
DaemonFC[m]Biden didn't have to win the debates so much as not lose them and not let Trump get away with murder (as much as possible).Nov 09 00:40
DaemonFC[m]Trump wanted more debates because his own internal polls showed he was likely to lose.Nov 09 00:40
DaemonFC[m]But then he infected the entire White House with the virus and was unable to do the second one.Nov 09 00:41
CrystalMathand who died? nobodyNov 09 00:41
CrystalMathnot even TrumpNov 09 00:41
DaemonFC[m]Gee, because they all have good healthcare. The best.Nov 09 00:41
DaemonFC[m]You pay for it.Nov 09 00:41
CrystalMathno not me, i'm not an american :PNov 09 00:41
DaemonFC[m]Stuff you'll never have access to.Nov 09 00:41
schestowitzseems like many use ipfs alreadyNov 09 00:41
schestowitz 09 00:41
DaemonFC[m]Even if it's there, who can afford it?Nov 09 00:42
schestowitzeven guixNov 09 00:42
DaemonFC[m]Eric Lipton, in Washington 5:10 PM ETNov 09 00:42
DaemonFC[m]I ran into random federal employees I know. From various agencies. Again and again, they expressed enormous relief. A storm cloud is passing. Work of the government can continue.Nov 09 00:42
DaemonFC[m]----Nov 09 00:43
DaemonFC[m]John  told me that NOBODY at the TSA liked Donald Trump.Nov 09 00:43
CrystalMathnobody likes the TSANov 09 00:43
DaemonFC[m]And if 1-2 of them did, not after the shutdown where they were getting eviction letters from not being paid.Nov 09 00:43
DaemonFC[m]Well, he wasn't paying any government workers during the shutdown.Nov 09 00:43
DaemonFC[m]So it's not a surprise that they remembered that, and remembered to vote.Nov 09 00:43
DaemonFC[m]There's hundreds of thousands of them, so like everything Trump does. Shortsighted and stupid and blew up on him in the end.Nov 09 00:44
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MinceRgreat stuff >> 09 00:46
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schestowitzMinceR: thanks!Nov 09 00:47
schestowitzrunning from home, on a raspiNov 09 00:47
schestowitzalong with other nodes all around the worldNov 09 00:47
schestowitzso it would be accessible if powered down as wellNov 09 00:47
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schestowitz"I'm not surprised that these open source communities are dying. They were founded based on the ideals of free speech and selfless sharing of technology. Both of these ideals are dying." 09 02:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Large Corporations Aren’t Going to Save the Real Linux Community | Hacker NewsNov 09 02:36
CrystalMathschestowitz: personally i believe that what's really amazing about free software is the autonomy you have while making it, nobody tells you how to do itNov 09 02:37
CrystalMathschestowitz: that's why people love working on projects, but not systemd or firefoxNov 09 02:38
CrystalMathbecause with things like systemd you have no individual autonomyNov 09 02:38
Digitfree software community, yes.  open source community, more a co-option rebrand usurption embrace-extend-extinguish thing.  pity free software had an ambiguous dual meaning, to the uninitiated ear seeming the other meaning, with freedom not in sight.  easy pickings.  now we see extinguish trickling in.Nov 09 02:39
schestowitzI don't think words were the primary issueNov 09 02:41
schestowitzeven if it was called "freedom software", something like OSI would emergeNov 09 02:41
Digitsure.Nov 09 02:41
schestowitzlike "business freedom foundation"Nov 09 02:41
schestowitzand then coopt the movementNov 09 02:42
schestowitzand some company like Red Hat would brain-drain GNUNov 09 02:42
CrystalMaththey can always try...Nov 09 02:42
CrystalMathbut it doesn't have to workNov 09 02:42
Digitlanguage just greases the desk-killer's train's wheels.Nov 09 02:42
schestowitzseems like an excuseNov 09 02:42
schestowitzalthough RMS said he partly regretted the nameNov 09 02:42
schestowitzand it was too late to change itNov 09 02:42
schestowitzto remove ambiguityNov 09 02:43
Digitfaifware.  n_nNov 09 02:43
schestowitzhe had a target on our collective arse -- and his -- regardlessNov 09 02:43
schestowitzif the name wasn't an "issue", they'd find something elseNov 09 02:43
schestowitzwe recently published an article about itNov 09 02:43
schestowitzit was a week or two agoNov 09 02:43
schestowitzthe name is a distractionNov 09 02:43
schestowitzOSI uses that as an excuse for its existenceNov 09 02:44
schestowitzits def is based on Debian's, which is based on FSF'sNov 09 02:44
schestowitzso in effect they're just making a parallel orgNov 09 02:44
schestowitzand then boost this org and brand in the mediaNov 09 02:44
schestowitzthen it gets further entrenchesNov 09 02:44
schestowitz* entrenchedNov 09 02:44
schestowitzin turn it attacks the thing it was really derived fromNov 09 02:45
schestowitzto borrow a hypothetical "Attack Plan"Nov 09 02:45
schestowitzsomeone comes here, "Techrights amicus"Nov 09 02:45
schestowitzThen asks to create some domain like "Techrights Canada"Nov 09 02:45
schestowitz(partly based on a true story)Nov 09 02:45
schestowitzand similar to what FSFE did to FSFNov 09 02:46
schestowitzThen that new site distorts what we sayNov 09 02:46
schestowitzso the identity gets tarnished, misrepresentedNov 09 02:46
schestowitzthen they net millions from Microsoft, Cisco, IntelNov 09 02:46
schestowitzand become bigger and "better" than the originalNov 09 02:46
schestowitzand we're just some lousy small siteNov 09 02:46
schestowitzand the "Techrights" everyone knows, sponsored by Microsoft, says "Azure is the future!!"Nov 09 02:47
schestowitzBTWNov 09 02:47
schestowitzmany attempts lately to register techrights china latelyNov 09 02:47
schestowitzthe chinese regime sends me emails to ask if it's authorised Nov 09 02:47
schestowitzwe respond "no"Nov 09 02:47
schestowitzso their internet companies block domains like etc.Nov 09 02:48
schestowitzLast month they tried the same with etc.Nov 09 02:48
schestowitzwhich I found odd and quaintNov 09 02:48
schestowitzlike... who in China is a "witz" anywayNov 09 02:48
schestowitz?Nov 09 02:48
DaemonFC[m]Democrats not only defeated the incumbent prosecutor and coroner in lake County, Illinois, they grabbed two more county board seats.Nov 09 02:51
DaemonFC[m]Lake County used to be a Republican stronghold and now they barely have any offices.Nov 09 02:52
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "like... who in China is a "witz""> Well, when that Linsux thing was around and they were trolling Techrights and laughing about it and calling for me to be banned, they seem to have caught Roy unaware.Nov 09 02:54
DaemonFC[m]Was on Twitter telling them he was considering banning me, while the same people were on Linsux forums calling him "shitzferwitz" if I remember correctly.Nov 09 02:55
DaemonFC[m]Linsux. Really? Like who is going to spend their own money registering a domain and putting  a forum up like that?Nov 09 02:55
DaemonFC[m]I think Windows 10 is godawful but you know, the results are speaking for themselves like they always do every time Windows declines some more in quality. Nov 09 02:56
DaemonFC[m]People vote with their feet even if they have to put some effort into it because it's easier to learn a completely new system that actually usually works okay than it is to keep stopping because of crashes and ransomware and bad updates and bricked firmware and product activation errors.Nov 09 02:57
DaemonFC[m]Even if you, the user, do absolutely nothing "wrong", Windows will accumulate bizarre errors that pile up. Some come, some go, but  they pile up.Nov 09 02:58
DaemonFC[m]Because their update process is like a firehose feeding into a drain that's 3/4ths of the way clogged.Nov 09 02:58
DaemonFC[m]They're always adding more bugs than they fix. Nov 09 02:59
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DaemonFC[m]So I still want someone to explain "Linsux" to me. Honestly.Nov 09 02:59
DaemonFC[m]They said they liked BSD, and maybe they actually got it working on a PC. More power to them because I never have.Nov 09 02:59
schestowitzLinsux?Nov 09 03:00
schestowitzThat was like a decade back, no?Nov 09 03:00
DaemonFC[m]BSD, as we are all aware, is totally secure because nobody can possibly run malicious code with remote access in the absence of network drivers.Nov 09 03:00
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "That was like a decade back, no?"> It was, but they're running /r/Linux now pretty much.Nov 09 03:01
schestowitzthat explains a lot thenNov 09 03:01
DaemonFC[m]I don't know if it's the exact people but it seems like Microsoft always has a covert team of people who complain about Linux and derail the conversation into something about Windows.Nov 09 03:01
schestowitzany proof of that though?Nov 09 03:01
DaemonFC[m]It's the same attitude at least. Worse, even, because they'll do shit and it just says "The Moderators". Like, who is doing this and why won't they explain themselves?Nov 09 03:02
DaemonFC[m]Arbitrary rules which you happen to break by complaining about Windows (to any degree) or trying to post Linux news. Nov 09 03:03
schestowitzsome might be using linux as a hobby, sometimesNov 09 03:03
schestowitzvZS1: read this ^^Nov 09 03:03
schestowitz(re Reddit)Nov 09 03:03
DaemonFC[m]If Windows existed in a free market and nobody was pressured to use it, I would never complain....and it also would drop to next to zero users immediately.Nov 09 03:03
DaemonFC[m]That's why they're stacked with lawyers, pay out bribes, etc. Nov 09 03:04
DaemonFC[m]They've always been terrified of Chromebooks and this DoJ lawsuit against Google is obviously a scheme where Microsoft and Oracle are behind the scenes and Trump is doing them a dirty favor.Nov 09 03:04
DaemonFC[m]The DoJ complaint says nothing about DRM or any of the real anti-consumer and anti-market harm Google does. Nothing at all.Nov 09 03:05
DaemonFC[m]It says that their search is an illegal monopoly (because it works so much better and that's why people use it, but they act like there are no others) and because their ad network hurts Microsoft's and Amazon's (not the users, which is spies on).Nov 09 03:06
DaemonFC[m]So I am very much not rooting for this antitrust case because it misses the real harm that Google is doing to the marketplace. To the public.Nov 09 03:06
DaemonFC[m]And the remedy would be to hand more of the same harmful conduct over to Microsoft and Amazon.Nov 09 03:06
DaemonFC[m]Separated from their ad network, Google products would be terrific.Nov 09 03:07
DaemonFC[m]They tend to be well designed and intuitive, at least more so than Windows and Apple.Nov 09 03:07
DaemonFC[m]The DoJ might demand a search engine ballot in Chrome or something.Nov 09 03:08
DaemonFC[m]Bing is available in Chrome, but nobody switches to it because it's terrible.Nov 09 03:08
DaemonFC[m]I don't even know what the hell the purpose of Edge on Linux is, other than maybe to give your sites a once over.Nov 09 03:09
DaemonFC[m]But you can do that on any Chromium browser.Nov 09 03:09
schestowitzit googlebombs "LINUX"Nov 09 03:09
schestowitzand helps Microsoft spread its marketing of spyware to more siteNov 09 03:09
schestowitzsome idiots might even use it regularlyNov 09 03:10
schestowitzand add Microsoft PPAs to their distroNov 09 03:10
schestowitzand so on and so forth...Nov 09 03:10
schestowitzMicrosoft is attackingNov 09 03:10
schestowitzwe are under attackNov 09 03:10
schestowitzand their bribed network, e.g. zdnet, tells us all they LOVE usNov 09 03:10
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft's other Debian packages have sometimes overwritten crucial operating system files.Nov 09 03:10
DaemonFC[m]Why in god's name would you install anything from them?Nov 09 03:10
schestowitzbecause Microsoft loves Linux nowNov 09 03:11
schestowitzHans loves NinaNov 09 03:11
schestowitzChile loves PinochetNov 09 03:11
DaemonFC[m]Even if it doesn't break your Debian/Ubuntu setup then at the very least, their shitty Microsoft program will stop functioning at some point.Nov 09 03:11
schestowitzBoris loves BorisNov 09 03:11
schestowitzBrexit means BrexitNov 09 03:11
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: then they will say it's an accidentNov 09 03:11
schestowitzand then 'fix' itNov 09 03:12
schestowitzand then dozens of headlinesNov 09 03:12
schestowitzabout how Microsoft loves LinuxNov 09 03:12
schestowitzbecause they fix what they breakNov 09 03:12
schestowitzas they did with SkypeNov 09 03:12
schestowitzbought a program that supported LinuxNov 09 03:12
schestowitzthen broke itNov 09 03:12
DaemonFC[m]I heard on NPR the other day that Lichtenstein is really cleaning up on brexit.Nov 09 03:12
schestowitzthen restored, partially, some fucntionalityNov 09 03:12
schestowitzhence "loves Linux"Nov 09 03:12
DaemonFC[m]Something about the UK making itself far less relevant as a financial center.Nov 09 03:12
DaemonFC[m]Have fun with that I guess.Nov 09 03:12
DaemonFC[m]See, you do have idiots in the voting majority over there too.Nov 09 03:12
schestowitzI never supported BrexshitNov 09 03:13
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: everywhereNov 09 03:13
schestowitzbut we don't inaugurate nazisNov 09 03:13
DaemonFC[m]Not....yet.Nov 09 03:13
schestowitzthe US is ahead of the curveNov 09 03:13
DaemonFC[m]You know, there's a first time for everything.Nov 09 03:13
DaemonFC[m]Hopefully this one leaves or gets carried out in handcuffs.Nov 09 03:13
schestowitzUS was also first with eugenics, I thinkNov 09 03:13
schestowitzahead of the Nazis in GermanyNov 09 03:14
DaemonFC[m]Yes, and it was an Indiana law that was the model for that!Nov 09 03:14
DaemonFC[m]And the Indiana state government didn't apologize for it until 2007!Nov 09 03:14
schestowitzyou have a state called after IndiaNov 09 03:14
schestowitzand natives were called after IndiaNov 09 03:14
schestowitzfunny as India hardly had anything to do with Americas, ever...Nov 09 03:14
DaemonFC[m]Well, the Indiana Territory covered more than the current state of Indiana.Nov 09 03:15
DaemonFC[m]It was Illinois, Wisconsin, and Michigan too at one point.Nov 09 03:15
DaemonFC[m]Congress had a habit of carving up territories because it didn't want to admit mega states with lots of political clout. Nov 09 03:15
schestowitzmaybe GOP can start splitting states some moreNov 09 03:16
schestowitzfor gerrymandering purposeNov 09 03:16
DaemonFC[m]Well, there was the idea of splitting Texas and California up.Nov 09 03:16
DaemonFC[m]But states aren't going to voluntarily do that.Nov 09 03:16
DaemonFC[m]The only one that carved itself up into two states voluntarily was when Massachusetts let go of Maine.Nov 09 03:17
DaemonFC[m]Other than that, it would be West Virginia seceding from Virginia during the Civil War.Nov 09 03:17
DaemonFC[m]Totally illegal, but to get it done, Congress recognized the West Virginia "government" as the Virginia legislature.Nov 09 03:17
DaemonFC[m]Which "consented" to partition itself.Nov 09 03:17
DaemonFC[m]Good thing too, honestly.Nov 09 03:18
DaemonFC[m]If West Virginia was still part of Virginia, you'd have another red state with a gigantic population and lots of rural voters overtaking the city voters.Nov 09 03:18
DaemonFC[m]There's still a proposal to split up Illinois from Chicago.Nov 09 03:19
DaemonFC[m]But I'd vote that down.Nov 09 03:19
DaemonFC[m]The Illinois Constitution requires that voters be asked at least once every 20 years if they want a constitutional convention.Nov 09 03:19
DaemonFC[m]I think the next time is 2030 or something.Nov 09 03:19
DaemonFC[m]I'll vote no.Nov 09 03:19
DaemonFC[m]My god can you imagine the mess they'd make out of it today?Nov 09 03:20
schestowitzmaybe 100 states in totalNov 09 03:21
schestowitzanother "nice number"Nov 09 03:21
schestowitzor maybe add some "territories" as statesNov 09 03:21
schestowitzgive them voting powers, tooNov 09 03:21
DaemonFC[m]Well, the only ones left are Puerto Rico and the unorganized or unincorporated territories.Nov 09 03:25
DaemonFC[m]The unorganized ones are mostly uninhabited. Nov 09 03:25
DaemonFC[m]There's just really no strong push to change status for most of them. I don't know why. As territories the US is obligated to defend them, and they don't pay federal income taxes.Nov 09 03:28
DaemonFC[m]I think there's a consensus that if someone tried invading anything we have a claim on it would mean war. Nov 09 03:29
DaemonFC[m]Both parties seem to like war anyway.Nov 09 03:29
DaemonFC[m]Wag the Dog is pretty popular.Nov 09 03:29
DaemonFC[m]Thatcher did it in the Falklands War. Nov 09 03:30
DaemonFC[m]It's to distract voters, make them feel good about themselves.Nov 09 03:30
DaemonFC[m]Hey we just beat someone up. Woohoo. Our country is going to shit but aren't we great?Nov 09 03:31
DaemonFC[m]As I understand it there were no gains to the UK of anything in that except that they held onto a "possession".Nov 09 03:31
DaemonFC[m]"Subjects to rule over."Nov 09 03:32
DaemonFC[m]Just what every decaying civilization needs.Nov 09 03:32
DaemonFC[m]Just what it's been looking for. Nov 09 03:32
DaemonFC[m]There's expansion, there's decline. There's people who can't stop the decline but can stick their fingers in their ears and hum.Nov 09 03:33
DaemonFC[m]Those people voted for Trump and it was because he promised them a bunch of quick and easy fixes and "filthy people from shithole countries" to blame for everything, you know.Nov 09 03:34
DaemonFC[m]And mom and dad fell for it all, from this sleazy one term con artist.Nov 09 03:34
schestowitzlolNov 09 03:34
schestowitzgnNov 09 03:35
DaemonFC[m]Trump is the Flim Flam Man and he goes from town to town selling them a bunch of crap and then fleeing under cover of darkness when they realize what he is and start chasing him with torches and pitchforks.Nov 09 03:38
DaemonFC[m]My favorite part of that movie was where he ends up with an entire truckload of really terrible whisket.Nov 09 03:38
DaemonFC[m]*whiskey Nov 09 03:38
DaemonFC[m]So he goes into a store and gets a bottle of top shelf stuff and then gives someone a swig of it, and the guy agrees to buy it from him for this impossibly low price, and in actuality the rest of the truck is stuff someone brewed in a bathtub.Nov 09 03:39
DaemonFC[m]Trump is the presidential equivalent of that. He hoodwinked America and America fell for it....once.Nov 09 03:39
DaemonFC[m]Everyone who has ever done business with him tried to warn everyone else about him, but many people wouldn't listen. They voted for him anyway, despite the other people he conned, cheated, cheated on, and sexually assaulted.Nov 09 03:41
DaemonFC[m]His brand is now totally destroyed. He's got $427 million in loans he can't pay coming due soon. They'll claw any assets he does have in the Trump Organization in bankruptcy or lawsuit.Nov 09 03:43
DaemonFC[m]The name will come off the buildings. Nov 09 03:43
DaemonFC[m]I mean. I don't think people get just how pathetic this guy really is.Nov 09 03:43
DaemonFC[m]They'll see.Nov 09 03:43
CrystalMath71 million people voted for himNov 09 04:11
CrystalMathhe can't be that badNov 09 04:11
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oiaohmCrystalMath: remember people voted for people like Hitler as well.   Getting votes does not make you a good person.Nov 09 06:23
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oiaohm  Its a very interesting read.   Lot of the conditions that got hilter into power existed when Trump first got in.Nov 09 06:26
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schestowitzraspberrypi:~ $ ipfs stats bwNov 09 09:03
schestowitzBandwidthNov 09 09:03
schestowitzTotalIn: 3.0 GBNov 09 09:03
schestowitzTotalOut: 1.3 GBNov 09 09:03
schestowitzRateIn: 14 kB/sNov 09 09:03
schestowitzRateOut: 2.4 kB/sNov 09 09:04
schestowitzNot bad for a first dayNov 09 09:04
schestowitz>> but wait till/if it gets bigger. It'll beNov 09 09:25
schestowitz> tampered with all the same...Nov 09 09:25
schestowitz> Nov 09 09:25
schestowitz> Immunity is a process. It is created by an immune system.Nov 09 09:25
schestowitz> Nov 09 09:25
schestowitz> No software, or organisation, is immune to being co-opted.Nov 09 09:25
schestowitz> Nov 09 09:25
schestowitz> Some are protected, and have resistance.Nov 09 09:25
schestowitz> Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz> GNUis not protected. it is infected, infested. It is worth protecting,Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz> but nobody is protecting it.Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz> Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz> FreeBSD is infested.Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz> Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz> OpenBSD and NetBSD have stewards. But they are also easier to take care of.Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz> Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz> Nothing is immune, if immune means "impervious". Stewards can beNov 09 09:26
schestowitz> compromised as well as projects.Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz> Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz> The cost of freedom is eternal vigilance. But there is vigilance overNov 09 09:26
schestowitz> BSD, that vigilance has disappeared elsewhere.Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz> Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz> You are among the few watching over GNU. It is still worth it, but it isNov 09 09:26
schestowitz> probably too late. I said probably, not definitely. If it can be saved,Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz> it ought to be.Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz> Nov 09 09:26
schestowitz> With the current parties only, if Hyperbola becomes a success it couldNov 09 09:26
schestowitz> branch off or inspire a new GNU, if that is not exactly what HyperbolaNov 09 09:26
schestowitz> itself is creating anyway.Nov 09 09:26
vZS1The reason the BSDs do so well is that they have people who understand business calling the shots. When you have (A)GPL code you need to be really cautious about how you run your project and keep the cashflow sustainableNov 09 09:28
vZS1And GNU stuff is more about the user than monetisation.Nov 09 09:29
vZS1That's why you see a lot of GNU projects run out of steam. It's not easy to make that kind of thing sustainableNov 09 09:31
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schestowitzthunderbird settings fixed now, no idea why it was set to NOT encrypt by default (even when a key is available for the recipient)Nov 09 09:37
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oiaohmschestowitz: you would not happen to be a prior Enigmail  and suffering from the migration glitches with thunderbird.Nov 09 11:11
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oiaohmvZS1: Lot of BSD projects run out of cash as well.Nov 09 11:26
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oiaohmvZS1: blender is GPL and does really well for funding.   But they took getting sold funding model worked out early on.Nov 09 11:28
oiaohmMIT and BSD licensed competitors to Blender died.Nov 09 11:28
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oiaohmschestowitz:   sometimes how bad security is happens to be sad.Nov 09 12:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Companies House forces business name change to prevent security riskNov 09 12:06
oiaohmYes company was named ""> and it broke stuff.Nov 09 12:06
schestowitzlolNov 09 12:06
schestowitzmaybe they uses Microsoft (MSN) DBNov 09 12:07
oiaohmCould have been fun with MS Word auto correct as well.Nov 09 12:12
oiaohmYou know how it likes to do the left and right versions of "Nov 09 12:13
oiaohmYes that would bring the finer point of legal as corrected by word would no longer be the companies name.Nov 09 12:13
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MinceR09 072302 < oiaohm> CrystalMath: remember people voted for people like Hitler as well.   Getting votes does not make you a good person.Nov 09 13:44
MinceRhitler is so "hip" and "cool" nowadays thoughNov 09 13:44
MinceR09 130607 < oiaohm> schestowitz:   sometimes how bad security is happens to be sad.Nov 09 13:46
MinceRLittle Bobby Tables, we call him.Nov 09 13:46
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kingoffranceyes ppl are saying all kinds of us election stuff....ppl seem to think security was magically great before..diebold goes back a long waysNov 09 13:55
MinceRand yet they were in no hurry to fix itNov 09 13:56
MinceRonce people started sending votes via mail, suddenly this became a major issue for "republicans"Nov 09 13:57
MinceRstrange, isn't it?Nov 09 13:57
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schestowitz[13:44] <MinceR> hitler is so "hip" and "cool" nowadays thoughNov 09 14:01
schestowitzMake Alemania Great AgainNov 09 14:01
MinceR:>Nov 09 14:01
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CrystalMathyeah, cause hitler was so anti-interventionist :PNov 09 14:03
schestowitzhe was really just a democratNov 09 14:03
schestowitzthen he was "independent"Nov 09 14:03
schestowitzhe only intervenes in "shithole countries"Nov 09 14:04
schestowitzto spread .DE mocracyNov 09 14:05
CrystalMathare you talking about hitler or bill clinton?Nov 09 14:06
CrystalMathi can't tellNov 09 14:06
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kingoffrancei mean, people were saying do mail *because* diebold stuff was not secureNov 09 14:12
kingoffrancelike, some ppl claimed that *was* more secureNov 09 14:12
kingoffrancebefore covid it seems tooNov 09 14:12
MinceRmail probably was more secure than diebold's shitNov 09 14:32
MinceRdiebold's approach to security: "it's a computer, see? :waves hands: woo!"Nov 09 14:33
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oiaohmMinceR:  scary part is some of the diebold garbage would have still been in use this USA election.Nov 09 15:10
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oiaohmYes and even old broken stuff as well.Nov 09 15:11
kingoffrancei havent followed it but yes it seems it was renamed dominionNov 09 15:12
MinceRso you can see how worried cheeto hitler was about fraudNov 09 15:13
MinceRi thought it was renamed to "premiere" or something like thatNov 09 15:13
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oiaohmThe Nazi party is technically Far-right.   Republicans USA are  right-wing.   Yes it does kind explain why trump at times sound like he was attempting to get Nazi like people on his side because he really was.Nov 09 15:18
MinceRtechnically found the nazi party to be closer to centerNov 09 15:18
MinceRprobably because their ideology was a mishmash of whatever was trendy at the timeNov 09 15:18
MinceRincluding socialismNov 09 15:18
oiaohmThe funny part is Hitler has one rating and the Nazi party has a different one.Nov 09 15:19
oiaohmHitler his own views were fairly central.  The parties view was not.Nov 09 15:20
MinceRprobably many individuals in the nazi party could have their ownNov 09 15:20
XRevan86oiaohm: His dreams of conquest were incredibly central.Nov 09 15:21
XRevan86Whose idea was to oppress Jews? Of our favourite centrist?Nov 09 15:23
XRevan86In my opinion this is a Putin / United Russia thing. They also have very different ratings.Nov 09 15:24
oiaohmXRevan86: that would be Nov 09 15:24
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oiaohmThe idea to of oppression if different classes of people predate Nazi.   Just the Nazi were way more effective at it. Nov 09 15:25
oiaohmYes horrible enough trump over the years said many things that are pure Aryanism.Nov 09 15:29
kingoffrancedominion for the homeland of course, you see :)   Nov 09 15:31
oiaohmTrump play book was a very old playbook that us used very poorly.Nov 09 15:32
oiaohmHave to wonder if some of it is how poor history is taught.Nov 09 15:33
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schestowitzlolNov 09 16:07
schestowitzthey show what it is nowNov 09 16:07
MinceRi'm surprised they didn't redefine "free software" like they redefined "end-to-end encryption"Nov 09 16:07
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR I tell Mandy sometimes, "That sounds nice Mandy. Unfortunately, I have to get back to Earth before the Stargate closes. Mandy, chevrons are locking.".Nov 09 17:09
MinceRlolNov 09 17:09
DaemonFC[m]I picked that up from Archer.Nov 09 17:09
schestowitzhahaNov 09 17:09
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MinceR(video) (audio:important) 09 17:33
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schestowitz"Hungarian-style authoritarianism"Nov 09 17:34
schestowitzOrBANANA RepublicNov 09 17:34
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scientesBANANANANANANANANov 09 17:53
scientesschestowitz, hungarian notation republicNov 09 17:53
MinceReven worseNov 09 17:53
scientesnotation hungarian republicNov 09 17:53
scientesoh wait that is reverse-polishNov 09 17:53
scientesreverse-polish hungarian notationNov 09 17:54
MinceRthey removed "republic" from the official name anywayNov 09 17:56
MinceRbecause it's a four-letter word to fideathNov 09 17:56
scientesMinceR, did they add "oligarchy"?Nov 09 17:57
scientes:-)Nov 09 17:57
MinceRno, it's just "hungary" nowNov 09 17:57
scienteswhat about "Hungry and thirsty"?Nov 09 17:58
scientes 09 17:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Las Dolomitas, sus secretos y sus tesoros - YouTubeNov 09 17:59
scientesthis looks pretty awesomeNov 09 17:59
scientesbut I skipped EuropeNov 09 17:59
scientesfor GeorgiaNov 09 17:59
scientesthose fish lenses are creepyNov 09 18:03
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DaemonFC[m]I bought more markdown meat and dented cans at the store.Nov 09 20:48
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DaemonFC[m]I look at the cans pretty well and if they are just crushed or making popping noises or the seam is damaged I leave them alone.Nov 09 20:49
DaemonFC[m]Saved two dollars making dinner tonight though. About 25 percent.Nov 09 20:50
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smnthermes 09 21:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Data Science is Hard: ALSA in Firefox – chuttenblogNov 09 21:41
smnthermes> So if you want to be counted: turn Telemetry on (it’s in the Preferences) and leave it onNov 09 21:41
smnthermesOh wowNov 09 21:42
MinceRlolNov 09 21:57
MinceRi have a better idea: replace it with crashium or a crashium-based browserNov 09 21:57
MinceR> and hopefully began reporting Telemetry by defaultNov 09 22:00
MinceRfuck you very much, chuttenNov 09 22:00
MinceRalso fuck you, anthony jonesNov 09 22:00
MinceR"run poetteringaudio and/or spyware"Nov 09 22:00
MinceR"take back the web", my assNov 09 22:00
MinceR> Mozilla can only support a finite number of things.Nov 09 22:02
MinceRconsidering how they branched into tons of irrelevant shit, i'd say that number turns out to be 0Nov 09 22:02
oiaohmAlso there is another side to that problem.Nov 09 22:14
oiaohmDistributions were not only patching out the Telemetry but doing patches in the ALSA section of firefox and not sending them upstream.Nov 09 22:15
oiaohmSo Telemetry on end users was saying no one using and patches being submitted were saying no one using.Nov 09 22:15
oiaohmIts one of the reasons I get annoyed when I see distributions having patches on packages that have never been submitted upstream.  Heck it fine it fails and has to be submitted a few times.   That way the upstream knows the usage case exists.Nov 09 22:16
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schestowitz[21:41] <smnthermes> > So if you want to be counted: turn Telemetry on (it’s in the Preferences) and leave it onNov 09 22:24
schestowitzYes, I said something to that effect when he published thatNov 09 22:24
DaemonFC[m]Hard pass.Nov 09 22:25
schestowitzthey also used surveillance to crush rss supportNov 09 22:25
schestowitzso much for data and 'science'Nov 09 22:25
schestowitzself-selecting idiotsNov 09 22:25
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz This library and the contact tracing thing bothers me a lot.Nov 09 22:25
DaemonFC[m]Hear me out. Nov 09 22:25
schestowitzpeople who use rss are probably clever enough to leave "telemetry" OFNov 09 22:25
schestowitz*OFFNov 09 22:25
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: ok, but I am very busy right nowNov 09 22:26
XRevan86MinceR: The ending's great.Nov 09 22:26
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DaemonFC[m]So, courts have repeatedly ruled that you have a Fourth Amendment right to privacy from the government and a Fifth Amendment right to not incriminate yourself when communicating with a government agency that can charge you with a crime or have you charged with one.Nov 09 22:26
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XRevan86MinceR: Except I'd pick Karelia, not Sweden, because Finland is a part of Russia or something.Nov 09 22:27
MinceR:>Nov 09 22:27
DaemonFC[m]So how does "mandatory" contact tracing work? It violates your right to privacy, freedom of movement, and to not incriminate yourself.Nov 09 22:27
DaemonFC[m]Since the Health Department can charge you with a crime under the health code, you have a Fifth Amendment right to hang up the phone or to tell them no thank you if they show up and want to talk Nov 09 22:28
DaemonFC[m]Same as if they were the police.Nov 09 22:28
schestowitzyou don't get a 'phone'Nov 09 22:28
schestowitzsimpleNov 09 22:28
DaemonFC[m]They can't put a bug on your phone's GPS without going to a court and getting a warrant specifically about you.Nov 09 22:28
schestowitz"can we trace you?"Nov 09 22:28
XRevan86 there's a house being sold there, perfectNov 09 22:28
schestowitz"sure"Nov 09 22:28
schestowitzbuy me a Samsung S1000000Nov 09 22:29
DaemonFC[m]I mean, you have a constitutional right to tell them to go away and then hang up the phone.Nov 09 22:29
DaemonFC[m]Because they're government agents with law enforcement powers.Nov 09 22:29
schestowitzanyway,bblNov 09 22:29
DaemonFC[m]I wouldn't cooperate with contact tracing. Half of all Americans say they wouldn't.Nov 09 22:30
DaemonFC[m]So it's not a surprise that it's not doing anything except costing money.Nov 09 22:30
DaemonFC[m]That lawyer on the don't talk to the police video on youtube said he had a client who said the IRS is here and they just have a few questions about my taxes.Nov 09 22:31
DaemonFC[m]He said tell them you'll only talk in exchange for immunity.Nov 09 22:32
DaemonFC[m]And he never heard from them again.Nov 09 22:32
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XRevan86> The majority of Russian Karelians are Eastern Orthodox Christians. The majority of Finnish Karelians are Lutherans.Nov 09 22:34
XRevan86> Significant enclaves of Karelians exist in the Tver oblast of Russia, resettled after Russia's defeat in 1617 against Sweden — in order to escape the peril of forced conversion to Lutheranism in Swedish Karelia.Nov 09 22:34
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XRevan86Makes sense. If it's forced upon the people, then it must be true.Nov 09 22:34
DaemonFC[m]I might not vote for Governor Pritzker again.Nov 09 22:34
XRevan86the correct religion that isNov 09 22:34
XRevan86I really like that aspect of the descendants of people who had their religion forced upon them.Nov 09 22:35
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DaemonFC[m]I'm not happy with the Coronavirus restrictions. We're getting slaughtered put here just like red states, only the restrictions are hurting our economy and causing mass unemployment.Nov 09 22:35
DaemonFC[m]*outNov 09 22:35
XRevan86Which is technically pretty much every single religious person out there.Nov 09 22:35
DaemonFC[m]The virus is out of control same as if we had no mitigation system to speak of.Nov 09 22:36
DaemonFC[m]I think Indiana handled his as well as is reasonably possible.Nov 09 22:36
DaemonFC[m]*thisNov 09 22:36
DaemonFC[m]Mask law. That's about it.Nov 09 22:36
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DaemonFC[m]The nursing group mom is in on Facebook, nobody is getting he vaccine. None of them trust it.Nov 09 22:38
DaemonFC[m]I don't trust it.Nov 09 22:38
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DaemonFC[m]Biden is locked into a system where the virus is full tilt out of control and we're 10 months in on a commitment for a dodgy vaccine that Trump was hoping to steal the election with.Nov 09 22:38
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DaemonFC[m]I think we need to extend Biden a great deal of patience considering his predecessor's stance that his golfing was more important and just throw the schools open and send the little blighters back in there.Nov 09 22:40
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tr_guest|18why IPFS and not Freenet?Nov 09 22:41
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schestowitztr_guest|18: hiNov 09 22:46
schestowitzwe can add freenet I supposeNov 09 22:46
schestowitzhave not looked into it, we rely on skilled people who can help setupNov 09 22:47
schestowitzthere's also gopher, gnunet etc.Nov 09 22:47
schestowitzcountless options, some a tiny nicheNov 09 22:47
schestowitzipfs gives us at least _one_ fallback that's d-webNov 09 22:47
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: I got complaining emails about your Biden ravingsNov 09 22:48
schestowitzcalling you RIAAnNov 09 22:48
schestowitzbut not "a Ryan"Nov 09 22:48
schestowitzwe have also published a bunch of things inc. 09 22:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | But at Least He’s Not Donald Trump or George Bush… | TechrightsNov 09 22:48
schestowitzBiden is no ally of oursNov 09 22:48
schestowitzI'm glad he'll replace TrumpNov 09 22:48
schestowitzbut I don't like or trust himNov 09 22:49
schestowitzthey cheated proper candidatesNov 09 22:49
schestowitzMayor and Bloomberg (the OTHER Mayor) rigged it for BidenNov 09 22:49
schestowitzby dropping out and urging supporters, after wasting lots of their corporate money, to back BidenNov 09 22:49
schestowitzso it was sort of rigged all alongNov 09 22:49
schestowitzmoney BUYS the presidential candidates Nov 09 22:50
schestowitzso nothing is changingNov 09 22:50
schestowitzunder Biden the depression will deepenNov 09 22:50
schestowitznot really his fault that Trump did nothing re coronaNov 09 22:50
schestowitzlike Obama dealt with Bush wars and financial collapseNov 09 22:50
XRevan86The US democracy hinges on the two parties doing the right thing, but they're not actually accountable to much by law.Nov 09 22:50
schestowitzYour country is still in the ditch, unless you're one of the Bloombergs and GatesesNov 09 22:50
schestowitzto them it's FANTASTICNov 09 22:50
schestowitzThe Murican DreamNov 09 22:51
schestowitzThe workers will get cheaper and easier for them to exploitNov 09 22:51
schestowitzXRevan86: sort of like Russia, but differentNov 09 22:51
schestowitzIn Russia I hardly hear about "two parties"Nov 09 22:51
schestowitzthere's just benevolent dictator for life Nov 09 22:52
schestowitzand a bunch of satellite "parties"Nov 09 22:52
schestowitzwhich you can identify by tracking political arrestsNov 09 22:52
XRevan86schestowitz: There's The Party, the spoiler parties, the quasi-opposition and the outlaws.Nov 09 22:52
schestowitzWe have about 5 "major" partiesNov 09 22:52
schestowitzinc. the local ones like Welsh and ScottishNov 09 22:53
schestowitzXRevan86: so we still have "kings"Nov 09 22:53
schestowitzwe still have a queen, formallyNov 09 22:53
XRevan86United Russia, e.g. The Growth Party, e.g. the Communist Party, e.g. the Russia of the Future PartyNov 09 22:53
schestowitzbut tbh, seeing MinceR's absurdistan, trumpland and Russia I'm relieved we're nowhere as bad, for now...Nov 09 22:53
schestowitzNo active groups calling for armed revolution like FARC or NPA eitherNov 09 22:54
schestowitzThe US still has Trump backersNov 09 22:54
schestowitzthey will still be aggressive and now feel blessed by "former President"Nov 09 22:54
XRevan86schestowitz: Still FPTP, which is probably how the tories manage to stay afloat.Nov 09 22:55
schestowitzAriadne should still pursue migration to .nl imhoNov 09 22:55
schestowitzthe Trumpsters are still thereNov 09 22:55
XRevan86Because, as always, the conservatives are consolidated and loyalNov 09 22:55
schestowitzand they're not hiding their faces, physically or metaphoricallyNov 09 22:55
schestowitzthey feel "mainstream" now, "quiet majority"Nov 09 22:55
XRevan86which FPTP considers the winning strategyNov 09 22:55
schestowitzFiel protocol transfer protocolNov 09 22:56
XRevan86First-past-the-post votingNov 09 22:56
schestowitz:-)Nov 09 22:56
schestowitzbrbNov 09 22:56
schestowitzneed to check up on somethingNov 09 22:56
schestowitzBut at Least He's Not Donald #Trump or #GeorgeBush ... #biden #us #libertyNov 09 22:56
schestowitzInside the #EPO During Corona: A New Series About the European Patent Office During European Lock-downs #covid19 #europe #patents #swpatsNov 09 22:57
schestowitzInside the EPO During Corona: The Management of the European #Patent Office Was (Fore)Warned About Exploiting a Public Health Crisis #covid19 #europe #patents #swpatsNov 09 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | But at Least He’s Not Donald Trump or George Bush… | TechrightsNov 09 22:57
schestowitz         Nov 09 22:57
schestowitzInside the #EPO During Corona: Like #BenoîtBattistelli #AntónioCampinos Leaves Out Staff Representation Out of Consultation Regarding Unprecedented #Health Crisis Which Impacts Staff 09 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Inside the EPO During Corona: A New Series About the European Patent Office During European Lock-downs | TechrightsNov 09 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Inside the EPO During Corona: The Management of the European Patent Office Was (Fore)Warned About Exploiting a Public Health Crisis | TechrightsNov 09 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Inside the EPO During Corona: Like Benoît Battistelli, António Campinos Leaves Out Staff Representation Out of Consultation Regarding Unprecedented Health Crisis Which Impacts Staff | TechrightsNov 09 22:57
XRevan86It's a bit of an idée fixe for me, because it's just one basic aspect that affects how democracy works a very big lot.Nov 09 22:57
schestowitz(might increasingly publish articles anonymously in months to come, it's better that way)Nov 09 22:57
XRevan86without voter fraud, roundabouts or other specificsNov 09 22:58
XRevan86or voter suppressionNov 09 22:59
XRevan86which is what Trump's desperately trying to do post-factum right nowNov 09 23:00
XRevan86 09 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Carousel voting - WikipediaNov 09 23:01
XRevan86"According to critics, the activity has been allegedly used in Russia since Vladimir Putin came to power in 2000."Nov 09 23:01
XRevan86"According to critics", "allegedly" – oh my godNov 09 23:01
oiaohmschestowitz: tr_guest|18:   There are not really many choices   freenet is lowest performing.    The maintained are Freenet, IPFS, Zeronet and dat.    Osiris, Maelstrom and Blockstack are basically dead. is the new on on the block don't know if that will last or not.Nov 09 23:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Peer-to-peer web hosting - WikipediaNov 09 23:02
DaemonFC[m]I got a message on Reddit.Nov 09 23:03
DaemonFC[m]From someone in Romania.Nov 09 23:03
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < >Nov 09 23:03
DaemonFC[m]I replied,Nov 09 23:06
XRevan86 oh, it's overNov 09 23:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Սիրելի հայրենակիցներ, քույրեր եւ... - Nikol Pashinyan / Նիկոլ Փաշինյան | FacebookNov 09 23:06
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < >Nov 09 23:06
DaemonFC[m]I was looking at those robot vacuum cleaner things.Nov 09 23:08
DaemonFC[m]They still seem to be a complete waste of money.Nov 09 23:09
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: that yogo issue is part them and part  Intel® Rapid Storage Technology.   Intel never has implemented in Linux the means to use the Intel RST form where the ssd is a cache to the harddrive.Nov 09 23:09
oiaohmor cache to other things.Nov 09 23:09
DaemonFC[m]You have to clean them out. They don't clean carpet well. They can throw themselves down the stairs and run over dog shit and smear it everywhere they go.Nov 09 23:09
DaemonFC[m]All for just $400 wow.Nov 09 23:09
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: yes removing the direct storage access was a intel recomendation.Nov 09 23:10
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: Lenovo and Intel created mess.   There are other examples where it was only Lenovo.Nov 09 23:11
DaemonFC[m]The SSD isn't caching anything.Nov 09 23:12
DaemonFC[m]There's no hard disk.Nov 09 23:12
schestowitz[23:09] <DaemonFC[m]> They still seem to be a complete waste of money.Nov 09 23:16
oiaohmHidden shader cache and other things.Nov 09 23:16
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schestowitzIf your money and time are worthless you get "Smart"Nov 09 23:16
schestowitzand then notifications take up all your timeNov 09 23:16
schestowitz(and money)Nov 09 23:16
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schestowitzthe old and traditional way might not impress your fake 'friends'Nov 09 23:16
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: basically there is a complete mode/modes of the Intel RST Linux kernel does not support and windows fresh of disc does not support.Nov 09 23:16
schestowitzbut you don't get industrial-grade robotsNov 09 23:17
schestowitzeven billionaires employ maids and suchNov 09 23:17
schestowitz"housekeepers"Nov 09 23:17
schestowitznot robotsNov 09 23:17
schestowitzlike a 2-pound piece of plastic and metalNov 09 23:17
schestowitzthat 'cleans'... whatever.Nov 09 23:17
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: of course those modes are not documented by Intel either so third parties cannot write implementations.Nov 09 23:18
oiaohmIts a two to tango thing.Nov 09 23:18
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XRevan86 instead of Facebook in Armenian aboveNov 09 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | NO TITLENov 09 23:23
XRevan86 and now this is happeningNov 09 23:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ՈՒՂԻՂ. Ի՞նչ է կատարվում Կառավարության դիմաց - YouTubeNov 09 23:23
XRevan86Protests in ArmeniaNov 09 23:23
schestowitzvZS1: 09 23:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How to use Yubikey or any GPG smartcard in Thunderbird 78Nov 09 23:25
schestowitzjust nowNov 09 23:25
vZS1LovelyNov 09 23:27
vZS1I've noticed something of much concern while I was doing some digging through TR coverage on a topic. I'll send you an email about it.Nov 09 23:29
schestowitzcheersNov 09 23:29
vZS1Too tired now thoughNov 09 23:29
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schestowitz 09 23:36
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schestowitzfrom mozilla to bezos 09 23:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Amazon Wins Sheppy – Bit StampedeNov 09 23:46
MinceR 09 23:47
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schestowitzMinceR: 100-milligram meteorNov 09 23:54
MinceR:>Nov 09 23:55
MinceRat relativistic speedNov 09 23:55
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Meet Giara, a New #Reddit App for the Linux Desktop, Written in GTK • 𝕋𝕦𝕩 𝕄𝕒𝕔𝕙𝕚𝕟𝕖𝕤 ☞ •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #News by @MariusNestor []Nov 09 23:56
schestowitzcomets can cut deep hole through soil (or people)Nov 09 23:56
schestowitzi'd like to hear what happened to people hit directly by cometsNov 09 23:57
schestowitz(but not to see it)Nov 09 23:57
schestowitz"Space is beautiful! Just get out of its fucking way, mannnnn!"Nov 09 23:57
DaemonFC[m]CNN: President Trump is beginning to come to grips with the reality that he will lose the election, a Trump adviser said based on conversations inside the campaign and with the President. Nov 09 23:58
DaemonFC[m]Trump sees a “path to losing,” the adviser said. Nov 09 23:58
DaemonFC[m]He has already begun to discuss with aides the prospect of running in 2024, as CNN reported last week.Nov 09 23:58
schestowitzHe is running alreadyNov 09 23:58
schestowitzrunningNov 09 23:58
schestowitz"run, Trump, run"Nov 09 23:58
schestowitzto FinlandNov 09 23:58
schestowitz 09 23:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Finns aghast that Trump could think their country is part of Russia | US news | The GuardianNov 09 23:59
DaemonFC[m]Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, and Acceptance.Nov 09 23:59
schestowitzdivorce alsoNov 09 23:59

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