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MinceRgovernments aren't even testing for it in significant numbers :>Mar 10 00:20
superkuhWHO has been co-opted by China.Mar 10 00:21
MinceRthe UN was always worse than uselessMar 10 00:23
DaemonFC[m]Yet somehow better than the US CDC.Mar 10 01:15
DaemonFC[m]Sweet Jews for JesusMar 10 01:16
DaemonFC[m]I just ordered 6 liters of hand sanitizer from Walmart. Mar 10 01:16
DaemonFC[m]They said it'll be in on Friday.Mar 10 01:16
DaemonFC[m]MinceR Beats nothing I guess.Mar 10 01:17
DaemonFC[m]Somehow Walmart is selling ut again with no limit.Mar 10 01:17
DaemonFC[m]And it's out of stock again.Mar 10 01:30
DaemonFC[m]MinceR Whoever makes this stuff is running the factories day and night if they're smart.Mar 10 01:31
DaemonFC[m]They have 8-12 months where they can sell 15 years worth if they can keep up.Mar 10 01:31
DaemonFC[m]I heard some guy on the radio saying the flu collapsed all of a sudden, probably because some people are washing their hands for the first time ever.Mar 10 01:33
DaemonFC[m]MinceR The SNL Bernie Sanders went on a rant about hand sanitizer. Mar 10 01:45
DaemonFC[m]"It says on the bottle it kills 99.9% of germs! I have a question. Why are we helping the top 0.1%?".Mar 10 01:46
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DaemonFC[m]Some people buying the dip because Trump is talking about a payroll tax holiday.Mar 10 02:37
DaemonFC[m]Even if that would work, which it wouldn't, Congress is not going to give him one.Mar 10 02:37
DaemonFC[m]The Democrats are not just going to hand him another battering ram to use against the Social Security and Medicare funds.Mar 10 02:38
DaemonFC[m]We're nit just dealing with a demand side problem here like we were in 2008.Mar 10 02:39
DaemonFC[m]And when the stimulus checks went directly out to Americans in 2008, they fell flat because people spent them on bills and debt, not a bunch of random junk.Mar 10 02:40
DaemonFC[m]They didn't see it as a windfall, they saw it as money they desperately neeeded in order to get by with that month. Then it was gone.Mar 10 02:40
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DaemonFC[m]Congress gave Obama a payroll tax holiday during the recession because they were Democrats and he was a Democrat and they felt like shoring up the economy in an election year.Mar 10 02:42
DaemonFC[m]Didn't work and it was a disaster for the Democrats on election day anyway.Mar 10 02:42
DaemonFC[m]There's no evidence that tax holidays or stimulus checks work or that they even change the result of an election.Mar 10 02:42
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DaemonFC[m] 10 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The latest Windows 10 update is so broken, Microsoft is advising some folks to uninstall it | TechRadarMar 10 02:46
DaemonFC[m]The latest Windows 10 update is by far the worst one ever, apparently. Mar 10 02:47
DaemonFC[m]It's actually destroying the computer itself in some cases.Mar 10 02:47
DaemonFC[m] 10 02:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Windows 10 isn’t the most vulnerable operating system – it’s actually Linux | TechRadarMar 10 02:53
DaemonFC[m]Jesus, who writes these?Mar 10 02:53
DaemonFC[m]They only count Windoes vulnerabilities since 2009, but all vulnerabilities in Debian since 1999?Mar 10 02:54
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psydreadpeople who get paid good moneyMar 10 03:36
psydreadat this point I consider most news in tech media fakeMar 10 03:37
DaemonFC[m]In another article I read, a Capitalist extremist actually tried defending the practice of price gougers knocking the whole shelf full of hand sanitizer into their shopping cart for resale at 20x the price on Ebay by saying it's "market forces protecting us from a shortage". Normally, I'd wonder if I stumbled onto a website parodying conservatives, but they parody themselves and this just proves it.Mar 10 03:49
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Debian leader Hartman says one year at the helm will do for now []Mar 10 04:52
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schestowitz[02:54] <DaemonFC[m]> They only count Windoes vulnerabilities since 2009, but all vulnerabilities in Debian since 1999?Mar 10 04:55
schestowitzand...Mar 10 04:55
schestowitzthey chains ALL vulns  in all packagesMar 10 04:55
schestowitzAND...Mar 10 04:55
schestowitz 10 04:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft Finally Admits Numbers of Vulnerabilities It Reports Are Fake | TechrightsMar 10 04:56
schestowitzMore of this fake news in: 10 04:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Security and FUD | Tux MachinesMar 10 04:56
schestowitzthey chain all the vulns in things like Apache I thinkMar 10 04:56
schestowitzif you count other Microsoft things, then 10 04:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft is the most "vulnerable" company in the past decadeMar 10 04:56
schestowitzMicrosoft sites boosters the lies/spinMar 10 04:57
schestowitzMSFT used to do that versus Red HatMar 10 04:57
schestowitzand now this FUD is backMar 10 04:57
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schestowitz[02:40] <DaemonFC[m]> And when the stimulus checks went directly out to Americans in 2008, they fell flat because people spent them on bills and debt, not a bunch of random junk.Mar 10 05:08
schestowitzoh, let's blame victimsMar 10 05:08
schestowitz[01:45] <DaemonFC[m]> MinceR The SNL Bernie Sanders went on a rant about hand sanitizer. Mar 10 05:08
schestowitzSNL's owners have Sanders. He wants to tax them more.Mar 10 05:08
schestowitzHow dare he tell the public that the rich need to pay tax like everybody else, they're "job creators" and "philanthropists"Mar 10 05:09
schestowitz"DO YOU HAVE JOBS"?"Mar 10 05:10
schestowitz"DO YOU HATE PHILANTHROPY?"Mar 10 05:10
schestowitz"and... WHY WON'T you think of the CHILDREN??"Mar 10 05:10
psydreaddoesn't MS realise they are (becoming) one of the biggest jokes in IT?Mar 10 05:11
psydreadyou can spend all the money and bribe everyone you want, but there will come a point where nothing will help anymoreMar 10 05:12
psydreadI see them as this era's Digital Equipment CorporationMar 10 05:12
psydreadthe rot has set in, but not everyone can smell it yetMar 10 05:13
schestowitzsome insiders can Mar 10 05:13
schestowitzand speak outMar 10 05:13
schestowitze.g. 10 05:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Azure Apparently Losing Money and Microsoft Lies to Shareholders, in Effect Breaking the Law | TechrightsMar 10 05:14
schestowitz 10 05:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft “Azure” (or “Cloud”) Results Are Most Likely an Elaborate Fraud | TechrightsMar 10 05:14
DaemonFC[m]My dad said a coworker's company laptop came with Windows 10 and it's constantly getting broken updates and it destroys the works he's doing.Mar 10 05:14
schestowitzthey cannibalise all their things with 'cloud'Mar 10 05:14
DaemonFC[m]Pointy Haired Bosses are buying this crap and then dumping it on their employees. Mar 10 05:14
schestowitzsave a way vista10 'for free' for  a whileMar 10 05:15
schestowitznot sure how much OEMs are charges for itMar 10 05:15
schestowitzand there's no good  evidence they yield profit, they even hide itMar 10 05:15
schestowitzI tried Vista 10 for a few minutes this yearMar 10 05:16
schestowitzit felt like a massive step back, Windows becoming toy-likeMar 10 05:16
schestowitzbut I suppose Vista 8 was already a step towards thatMar 10 05:16
schestowitzthey mimic Chrome OS, which is also utter crapMar 10 05:17
psydreadI had to wipe Vista 7/10 from 4 used laptops during the past few monthsMar 10 05:18
psydreadthe few minutes it did run it was essentially useless and brokenMar 10 05:19
psydreada preinstalled image on a laptop with a Core i5-5200U was so broken that I could never even get it connected to the network, but Vista 10 ran like a dog on that tooMar 10 05:20
psydreadso essentially you need the latest bloatware release to run on beefy hardware, preferably the latest Mar 10 05:21
psydreadand I believe this is done on purpose so they can keep inflating the numbersMar 10 05:22
psydreadanother thing is that their Windows on ARM initiative is going nowhere, so Qualcomm has more or less given up for their lower-end laptop chips, which will be targetted at Chromebooks nowMar 10 05:24
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psydreadmy take on this is that being tied to Microsoft and Windows actually costs them money, whereas Apple just goes and does what it's good at in its own universeMar 10 05:25
psydreadand of course the various ARM boards are a huge success with GNU/LinuxMar 10 05:26
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tedboxpsydread: I use ARM on my GNOME-Shell notebooksMar 10 06:15
tedboxI don't like GNOME, but it's good to keep abreast of everythingMar 10 06:16
schestowitz> 10 06:25
schestowitzI responded to FSF 2 minutes after they had announced this in social control media Diaspora. Of course I mentioned RMS ;-)Mar 10 06:25
schestowitzThen, when they did the blog post I added it to TM.Mar 10 06:25
schestowitzTM actually mentioned it within minutes as well, with Diaspora as a link (which is super rare).Mar 10 06:25
schestowitzThis virus is becoming a much bigger deal than I expected. Mar 10 06:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | LibrePlanet 2020: In-person component canceled, but we'll see you online — Free Software Foundation — working together for free softwareMar 10 06:25
schestowitz and 10 06:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | LibrePlanet 2020: In-person component canceled, but we'll see you online | Tux MachinesMar 10 06:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Events: Mostly More Cancellations | Tux MachinesMar 10 06:26
MinceR10 014635 < DaemonFC[m]> "It says on the bottle it kills 99.9% of germs! I have a question. Why are we helping the top 0.1%?".Mar 10 06:49
MinceR 10 06:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Hand SanitizerMar 10 06:49
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MinceR10 024700 < DaemonFC[m]> The latest Windows 10 update is by far the worst one ever, apparently.Mar 10 06:51
MinceRquite the achievement :>Mar 10 06:51
MinceR 10 07:01
schestowitzMinceR: soviet..Mar 10 07:03
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: let's call it Vista 10Mar 10 07:03
schestowitzreminds people what it is based onMar 10 07:03
schestowitz5 years of XP->Vista codeMar 10 07:04
schestowitzplus crap like telemetry added since... and Cortana  listening outpostMar 10 07:04
schestowitzMicrosoft....FINALLY... LISTENING to the customerMar 10 07:04
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oiaohmschestowitz: really what customer is Microsoft in fact listening to .Mar 10 07:52
oiaohmMinceR: I would say that but the current one is no the worst the worst was the one where windows basically screwed it own partition over.Mar 10 07:53
MinceRoiaohm: the NSAMar 10 07:54
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: the current update screw up 5 or 6 down the list in bad for windows 10.   as it not in fact deleting the files this time its just hiding them.Mar 10 07:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Windows 10’s New Update Is Deleting People’s Files AgainMar 10 07:55
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Standards and APIs: oneAPI, DatagramSocket and Top 10 Time APIs []Mar 10 07:55
oiaohmThe worst 2 take out the boot partition.Mar 10 07:55
oiaohmThe next 3-4 in fact delete user files in a non recoverable way.Mar 10 07:56
oiaohmMinceR: I do agree it will take Microsoft doing a really really bad update to out to the current number 1 on Microsoft screwed up updates with windows 10.Mar 10 07:56
oiaohm  People like to forgot windows 10 update 1709 from 2018Mar 10 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Partitions deleted after Windows 10 manual 1709 update | Tom's Hardware ForumMar 10 07:58
oiaohmMicrosoft the data loto.Mar 10 07:59
MinceRif you trusted microsloth with your data, then that data couldn't have been importantMar 10 07:59
MinceRit seems the current "update" bricks UEFI, thoughMar 10 08:00
oiaohmMinceR: there has been about one of those updates every year of windows 10 existance.Mar 10 08:01
MinceRand yet the cultists hold outMar 10 08:02
oiaohmSo status normal unfortunately.Mar 10 08:02
MinceRamazingMar 10 08:02
schestowitzMicrosoft is data-mining people's fart using Cortana :-)Mar 10 08:02
oiaohmPlease note bricked UEFI you can normally data back on a different machine.Mar 10 08:02
schestowitzThen sells it to insurance companies ;-)Mar 10 08:02
oiaohmThe worse is where windows as serous properly wiped data.Mar 10 08:03
oiaohmNo backups it gone.Mar 10 08:03
oiaohmUEFI issues are down around 10 on the list of the worst updates done by Microsoft by windows 10.Mar 10 08:04
MinceRthey started doing that well before Backdoors10, thoughMar 10 08:04
MinceRwinblows 98 did it, for exampleMar 10 08:04
oiaohmExactly its been on going.Mar 10 08:04
oiaohmI don't understand why its not in the Media like darn Microsoft has destroyed you data again.Mar 10 08:04
MinceRbecause microsloth pays them too muchMar 10 08:05
MinceRand also has them by the alleged computersMar 10 08:05
oiaohmI don't think the effected users would like media users been upbeat and saying the truth its not the worst Microsoft has done to you.Mar 10 08:05
MinceRoh, and also because of the most popular religion: the Church of the Almighty MoneyMar 10 08:05
MinceRmicrosuck has tons of money, therefore they are sacredMar 10 08:05
oiaohmreally need to be truthful its not the worst for best outcome of end users.Mar 10 08:07
oiaohmAs in don't panic your data is still there a few simple steps to fix the uefi and tell windows to unhide you files everything will be back.Mar 10 08:07
MinceRtheir PR stunts also tend to work out, because humans are an incredibly, dangerously stupid speciesMar 10 08:07
MinceRstep 1: buy a real computer, not one crippled with UEFIMar 10 08:08
MinceRstep 2: install a real OS on it, one you can trust with your dataMar 10 08:08
MinceRstep 3: start taking backupsMar 10 08:08
oiaohmIf a button existed somewhere on earth to instantly end the earth you could bet some idiot human will push it sooner or latter.Mar 10 08:08
MinceRif there was one to just end the human species, it's highly likely i would push itMar 10 08:08
oiaohmReally I could see making a  movie where alien comes to earth as a arms dealer who real objective to have humans kill themselves with him having to put in very little effort and the countries of the world falling for it.Mar 10 08:10
MinceRsounds like a lot more effort than a spacefaring alien would need to put inMar 10 08:10
oiaohmMinceR: depends you could go to all the effort of sending complete army to invaide or some other high expensive weapon.  Or send 1 robot arms dealer who you don't care if it dies to hand over the information for them to kill themselves.Mar 10 08:12
oiaohmAlso be prove some fun alien tv to watch as the idiots on earth do themselves in.Mar 10 08:12
oiaohmLot of fun in this where you have the aliens watching the earth as a survival  show  and that of course  is the funding for the arms dealer being sent to earth.Mar 10 08:14
oiaohmOf course the completely stuffed earth can be mined at the end because it no longer has any owners.Mar 10 08:14
oiaohmMinceR: and of course the core could be the arms dealer selling the breakable shield class weapon and unstoppable spear with the catch using 1 against the other equals by by earth.Mar 10 08:18
oiaohmMinceR: opps unbreakable shield.Mar 10 08:19
schestowitzHi,Mar 10 08:22
schestowitzWhat are your thoughts about the current economic and political atmosphere? May I suggest watching this good old video, among among several that inspired me as a student? Mar 10 08:22
schestowitz 10 08:22
schestowitzoopsMar 10 08:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Sorrows of Empire - Chalmers Johnson - YouTubeMar 10 08:22
schestowitzwrong window, oh well...Mar 10 08:22
schestowitzno harm done, it's still remotely relevantMar 10 08:22
MinceRoiaohm: or you could just input so much energy into the atmosphere that it kills all humansMar 10 08:38
MinceRor just vaporize the planetMar 10 08:38
MinceRremember, the alien has FTL technology :>Mar 10 08:38
MinceRi like the reality show angleMar 10 08:39
MinceRalso, shield-lasgun explosion :>Mar 10 08:39
MinceR 10 08:44
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: LLVM Clang 11 Compiler, Perl and Python []Mar 10 08:45
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos []Mar 10 08:47
schestowitzlolMar 10 08:52
MinceRor the alien could sterilize the planet with gamma raysMar 10 08:52
schestowitzWhen people measure other people's wealth based on the 'phone' they have and when they go shopping? Oh, that's when they pamper their arses. Mar 10 08:53
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oiaohmMinceR: where is the entertainment in any of those options.Mar 10 10:44
MinceRthe part where humans die :)Mar 10 10:56
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Has This Awesome Benchmarking Tool You Probably Haven’t Heard Of []Mar 10 11:12
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XRevan86 10 11:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | NO TITLEMar 10 11:19
XRevan86So, they're going for the simplest scheme %)Mar 10 11:19
MinceR:>Mar 10 11:21
psydroidschestowitz, I just run mine headless or with Fluxbox most of the time, but I find it interesting that an architecture change (but with ARM chips that come in much higher volumes than x86 chips) is what will ultimately undo Microsoft and Vista in the market. I am not saying anything new, but it was an architecture change combined with "good enough" software that undercut Vista's position. I just don't get that no one saMar 10 11:22
psydroidthis before Google and Apple killed Vista Mobile with Android and iOS respectively. GNU/Linux competing with Vista on x86 on the desktop was always going to be the final frontier.Mar 10 11:22
XRevan86Putin: Let's close the loophole that allowed me to be re-elected so many times.Mar 10 11:22
XRevan86A bit later: Using that closure of the loophole as a loophole to be re-elected.Mar 10 11:23
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zoobabwatching the UPC debate in the LordsMar 10 11:24
zoobab 10 11:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ )Mar 10 11:25
zoobabCIPA liersMar 10 11:25
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psydroidI also see this on (bought by MS) tech sites in the Netherlands. Whenever there is some news about an ARM server chip, people keep parroting AMD. But in a world where almost everything is free software it is good to have a choice of the exact hardware you want to run your services on. I think what is really the matter is that any hardware that is not x86 doesn't run Vista Server and/or doesn't have any applications builMar 10 11:27
psydroidfor it, so it will be an instant loss for Microsoft.Mar 10 11:27
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psydroidI have just tuned into the streamMar 10 11:41
tedboxlol, CIPAMar 10 12:10
tedboxThe "industry"Mar 10 12:10
tedboxwhich?Mar 10 12:10
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zoobab 10 13:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Unitary Patent Trolls, CJEU won't have a say in patent law, patent industry rejoice of stealing jobs - YouTubeMar 10 13:20
schestowitzcheersMar 10 13:25
schestowitzToday's UPC 'Debate' is a Farce, Stuffed by the Litigation 'Industry' Instead of British IndustryMar 10 13:28
schestowitzworking on itMar 10 13:28
schestowitzwanna help me proofread, zoobab?Mar 10 13:28
schestowitz<em><b>Summary</b>: Team UPC continues its gross poplical manipulation, in essense misrepresenting the British interests and instead pretending that nothing exists in this country except lawyers</em>Mar 10 13:29
zoobabpretty muchMar 10 13:33
schestowitzdid you tweet this past hour?Mar 10 13:34
schestowitzI want to get the up to date refsMar 10 13:34
zoobabthe previous hearings were the same Mar 10 13:36
zoobabpatent industry all the wayMar 10 13:36
schestowitz 10 13:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@echo_pbreyer: Closed-door negotiations to finalise the #TERREG regulation are underway. I'll help you understand what's at stake… 10 13:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@echo_pbreyer: Closed-door negotiations to finalise the #TERREG regulation are underway. I'll help you understand what's at stake… 10 13:36
schestowitz"Closed-door negotiations to finalise the #TERREG regulation are underway. I'll help you understand what's at stake – let's begin by looking at how @Europarl_EN & @EUCouncil want to deal with #uploadfilters and ultra-fast removal orders: … #SaveYourInternet"\cMar 10 13:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Lifting the veil on the secretive EU terror filter negotiations: Here’s where we stand – Patrick BreyerMar 10 13:36
schestowitzcan you get the link to the prior hearing?Mar 10 13:36
schestowitzIs it the one with Mooney?Mar 10 13:36
schestowitzSimmons^2Mar 10 13:36
schestowitz\Mar 10 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: UPC 'Designed for SMEs', maybe he should read the CZ report, if there is one thing that was not designed for SMEs i… 10 13:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: UPC 'Designed for SMEs', maybe he should read the CZ report, if there is one thing that was not designed for SMEs i… 10 13:37
schestowitz 10 13:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | BREAKING: EQE and pre-EQE postponed until further notice - The IPKatMar 10 13:41
schestowitzI'm a partner at a fairly large UK firm and I can tell you that our partnership's immediate reaction was that, as far as was practical, we would not hold trainee's progression back (internal promotion and salary rise) because of this.Mar 10 13:41
schestowitzI expect that other firms will do the same.Mar 10 13:41
schestowitzThe sad thing though is whatever I'd like to do for our trainees, not being able to take the EQEs this year *will* hold some people back, at least in the short term. Whatever pay rise or promotion we give our people, being able to sign your own letters and attend hearings on your own is something you need the EQE pass for.Mar 10 13:42
schestowitz"Mar 10 13:42
schestowitzSee this new comment and the many other comments. CIPA is very much loathed at the moment, even by those it claims to represent Mar 10 13:42
*schestowitz fixes typosMar 10 13:50
zoobabprevious hearing should be in my pile of tweetsMar 10 13:51
zoobabthat was with MooneyMar 10 13:51
zoobab 10 13:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Brexit hearing: plea to open up Unitary Patent project for non EU member states - Kluwer Patent BlogMar 10 13:52
zoobabI still think we need to file a second complaint in Germany as a precautionary measureMar 10 13:59
schestowitz 10 14:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Today’s UPC ‘Debate’ is a Farce, Stuffed by the Litigation ‘Industry’ Instead of British Industry | TechrightsMar 10 14:00
schestowitzI remember the Mooney oneMar 10 14:00
schestowitzKluwer patent FROGGER will do a FROGm soonMar 10 14:00
schestowitzBristows with mask onMar 10 14:00
schestowitzcopying lies as factsMar 10 14:01
schestowitzand then all the comments will blast the author and CIPA's claimsMar 10 14:01
schestowitzi.e. the usualMar 10 14:01
zoobabprobably you will see signs of hope that Boris's will can be ouverturned by more clever Lords and MPsMar 10 14:02
MinceR(cat) 10 14:05
tedboxzoobab: naa... it'll failMar 10 14:06
tedboxsee past patternsMar 10 14:06
zoobabI think soMar 10 14:06
tedboxdon't think so negativelyMar 10 14:08
tedboxyou weak yourself outMar 10 14:08
tedboxand it harms your work or moraleMar 10 14:08
tedboxyou something pass this pessimism to meMar 10 14:08
tedboxeven when its unwarrantedMar 10 14:08
tedboxkeep fighting, the law and the FCC are on our sideMar 10 14:08
tedboxthose things aren't defeated in a yearMar 10 14:09
tedboxit can take a decade Mar 10 14:09
tedboxlike the Assange "case"Mar 10 14:09
zoobabwe might need a second complaintMar 10 14:12
zoobabeven though Stjerna's one is pretty completeMar 10 14:12
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: AirView Wireless Touchscreen Display Works with Phones, Laptops, Raspberry Pi, Etc. (Crowdfunding) []Mar 10 14:12
zoobabI have read another decision about evoting at the FCC of Germany which was brilliantly writtenMar 10 14:13
zoobabbut you never knowMar 10 14:13
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers []Mar 10 14:13
zoobabI would prefer if Boris notifies the secretariat of the Council tomorrow that UK officially withdraws from the projectMar 10 14:14
zoobabde-ratifiesMar 10 14:14
tedboxjust exit the EPCMar 10 14:15
tedboxas Andre said to me...Mar 10 14:15
tedboxif they hate this abuse, quit the EPO (EPC), not the EUMar 10 14:16
tedboxperfectly possibleMar 10 14:16
tedboxand then the EPO can drop English as a language :-)Mar 10 14:16
tedboxthat'll be hilariousMar 10 14:16
tedboxI mean, even the Irish have their own langMar 10 14:16
tedboxso why have English lang at EPO without the UK?Mar 10 14:16
MinceRafaik ireland uses english as official languageMar 10 14:16
tedboxSpanish better for overseas applicants?Mar 10 14:16
tedboxMinceR: they also have their ownMar 10 14:17
MinceRand it's also the most widely known language in the EUMar 10 14:17
tedboxnot northern irelandMar 10 14:17
tedboxMinceR: I was partly exaggeratingMar 10 14:17
zoobabFCC might kill the EPO/EPC as we know itMar 10 14:17
zoobabdon't forget there are 4 other complaints dealing with the EPO not respecting the 'rule of law'Mar 10 14:18
zoobabso any state that has to follow the 'rule of law' principle is concernedMar 10 14:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Languages of Ireland - WikipediaMar 10 14:19
MinceRirish is spoken only by 41%, english by 99%Mar 10 14:19
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Clonezilla Live Switches to Linux 5.4 LTS, Adds Bluetooth Support []Mar 10 14:20
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tedboxzoobab: so think a step ahead, epc/epo, not just upcMar 10 14:25
tedboxhelp out with the epo expose ;-)Mar 10 14:25
tedboxa lot of the pressure is motored via EPOniaMar 10 14:26
tedboxand even if you kill off UPC, the same thugs in EU and EUIPO (aka EPO now ;-) ) will still pursue this 'unified' (to suit US!) systemMar 10 14:26
*tedbox roy-at-tedMar 10 14:27
tedboxzoobab: US system done for nowMar 10 14:28
tedboxthe courts reject swpatsMar 10 14:28
tedboxwhat USPTO grants can be challenged, less expensively at PTAB Mar 10 14:29
tedboxso leave Coons and his Clowns aside for nowMar 10 14:29
tedboxwe did in 2018Mar 10 14:29
*tedbox is now known as roy-at-tedMar 10 14:29
MinceRwhat does this mean for the microsloth VFAT patent racket?Mar 10 14:29
roy-at-tednow UPC is on the floorMar 10 14:29
roy-at-tedaim at Team Campinos, SUEPO is taking up the fight now in internal commsMar 10 14:29
roy-at-tedMinceR: LF doesn't careMar 10 14:30
roy-at-tedLF is MSLF nowMar 10 14:30
MinceRi knowMar 10 14:30
roy-at-tedOSI the same, both connected to OOM staff-wiseMar 10 14:30
MinceRand i suppose device vendors have already signed the contracts about itMar 10 14:30
roy-at-tedso assume Linux is partly a Microsoft thing nowMar 10 14:30
MinceRand what about H.264?Mar 10 14:30
roy-at-tedAnd old Linus is "too tired" to take actionMar 10 14:30
roy-at-tedI mean OIN, not OOMMar 10 14:31
roy-at-tedOM is INMar 10 14:31
roy-at-tedmy finger slipped to the sideMar 10 14:31
roy-at-tedthis keyboard is falling apart, many keys don't work too well anymoreMar 10 14:31
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zoobab 10 14:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ip_memes: Under construction. #UPC #JUB #patents #IPmemes 10 14:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ip_memes: Under construction. #UPC #JUB #patents #IPmemes 10 14:48
zoobabgood funMar 10 14:48
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XRevan86 It got English subtitles within a day. Involves RT.Mar 10 18:15
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DaemonFC[m]VFAT patents are expired.Mar 10 19:47
DaemonFC[m]The LFN one since 2015 at least.Mar 10 19:48
DaemonFC[m]DOS 8.3 names aren't really that important anymore. ReFS doesn't even support them.Mar 10 19:48
DaemonFC[m] 10 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Brave Browser Has Reached 12 Million Monthly Active Users | Crypto BriefingMar 10 19:50
DaemonFC[m]Brave browser gained 4 million users in the past month. A 33% increase. Mar 10 19:51
MinceRso should we expect samsung to stop ship their android devices pre-infected with microsloth malware? :>Mar 10 20:35
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superkuhduh duh duh, another bites the dustMar 10 21:53
DaemonFC[m]ReFS used to be available in Windows 10 Pro.Mar 10 21:54
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DaemonFC[m]Then Microsoft removed the ability for Windows 10 Pro to make any ReFS volumes that didn't already exist in one of their "upgrades", and then a new SKU that's more expensive appeared at the same time.Mar 10 21:55
DaemonFC[m]If you want to keep using a volume you previously created, it won't stop working, and the disk utilities will continue to work on it. You just can't make new ones.Mar 10 21:55
DaemonFC[m]So if you don't want to pay for the new SKU and anything happens to that install of Windows, you have to install the last version of Windows 10 Pro where the Setup program could make ReFS volumes and then update through each release past that one.Mar 10 21:56
DaemonFC[m]It's a nightmare, but....Windows.Mar 10 21:57
MinceRyo dawg, we herd you liek nightmaresMar 10 21:57
MinceRso we put a ReFS in your windows.Mar 10 21:57
DaemonFC[m]Also, since ReFS volumes do not get in-place upgrades, that means you can't use any new  features that appear in future versions unless you pay up.Mar 10 21:57
DaemonFC[m]For example, they're bringing symbolic links and data forks back.Mar 10 21:57
MinceR(so you can lose data while you lose data)Mar 10 21:58
DaemonFC[m]But you won't be able to use it because it doesn't upgrade older file systems.Mar 10 21:58
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XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Wait, I thought ReFS is being phased out. Are you saying it's a thing on "Enterprise"?Mar 10 22:00
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: From what you're saying, it is being developed, but "Pro"'s won't be able to use it.Mar 10 22:02
XRevan86> Also, since XFS volumes do not get in-place upgrades, that means you can't use any new  features that appear in future versions unless you pay up.Mar 10 22:04
XRevan86The most annoying thing about XFS :)Mar 10 22:04
XRevan86But it supports reflinks (if mkfs'd with them) and isn't btrfs or ZFSMar 10 22:05
XRevan86the latter being ab absolute killer feature when compared to btrfs or ZFSMar 10 22:06
DaemonFC[m]There's a special SKU of Pro called Windows 10 Professional Workstation that has ReFS now. It's more expensive.Mar 10 22:11
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, they're developing ReFS still, it's just that you can't use it unless you pay up.Mar 10 22:11
DaemonFC[m]bgrojMar 10 22:11
DaemonFC[m]Cat on keyboard. :PMar 10 22:12
XRevan86A special filesystem only for the "elites"… that was hard for me to processMar 10 22:13
MinceRlolMar 10 22:14
MinceR 10 22:14
MinceRspecial.Mar 10 22:14
MinceRfor the money-worshipping idiots who believe that blowing tons of money on unworkable crap makes them "elite"Mar 10 22:14
XRevan86This is even worse than their idea that only Enterprise versions should be able to handle many threadsMar 10 22:15
DaemonFC[m]Also pirates that just use an activation crackMar 10 22:16
MinceRthey wish their enterprise versions could handle many threadsMar 10 22:16
MinceRthey couldn't write scalable code if their life depended on itMar 10 22:16
XRevan86I guess it came out wrong %)Mar 10 22:17
XRevan86It's not that it can do many threads well, it's that "Pro" is deliberately cappedMar 10 22:18
MinceRyeah, despite their atrocious scalability, they've still found a way to cripple it further :>Mar 10 22:18
XRevan86Or *was* deliberately capped, they did something after "consumers" with AMD Threadripper 3990X realised their precious OS won't allow programmes to utilise all the threads.Mar 10 22:19
DaemonFC[m]I filed our taxes and was surprised the IRS owed me $1,000 more because my husband was a student last year.Mar 10 22:20
DaemonFC[m]I'll consider it part of what they owe me for making me pay them to have some foul government bureaucrat questioning my marriage next month.Mar 10 22:21
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MinceR(audio:unimportant) 10 22:36
psydroidWindows is figuratively and to some extent literally the new (Open)VMS (but worse), I can't see it surviving beyond 10 yearsMar 10 22:38
psydroidjust look at the governments that are moving to GNU/Linux completelyMar 10 22:39
MinceRwhich is why microsloth is taking over Linux and why FSF and GNU are being destroyedMar 10 22:39
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