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● May 10
[00:00]	DaemonFC	MinceR, Don't worry about the billionaires ruining the stock market, the economy, the national debt, and laying millions off while they release falsified jobs reports.
[00:00]	DaemonFC	The whole smash is the fault of single mothers on food stamps.
[00:01]	DaemonFC	And thanks to the wisdom of the alleged court, soon there will be more of those than ever.
[00:05]	MinceR	good, more people to blame
[00:10]	DaemonFC	You'd have to wonder why the Republicans want more poor black people around.
[00:10]	psydruid	AMD isn't even competitive on price at the low end anymore
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[00:10]	DaemonFC	I mean, most of the women getting abortions.....
[00:10]	DaemonFC	If any of them do ever vote, it'll be for the Democrats.
[00:12]	TR News	 April | Gemini address: April
[00:12]	DaemonFC	I was thinking of moving to Nevada or Arizona.
[00:12]	DaemonFC	After we sort out this immigration pigfuck.
[00:12]	TR News	Evolution at Linux Foundation: Microsoft Attacks, Microsoft Joins, Microsoft Takes Control | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/09/microsoft-takes-control-lf/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/09/microsoft-takes-control-lf/
[00:12]	TR Bot	 Evolution at Linux Foundation: Microsoft Attacks, Microsoft Joins, Microsoft Takes Control | Techrights
[00:13]	DaemonFC	I mean, there's a lot to say about living there. It's cheap to live there. It never gets truly nasty out. So no salt, so potholes and shit aren't everywhere and your car won't rust.
[00:13]	DaemonFC	It seems Illinois is just content with taxing us more every year and telling us how much our roads are improving when there's more car-eating potholes than ever and everyone knows it.
[00:14]	DaemonFC	They have to spend all of the transportation money ripping up the roads there's nothing wrong with and taking 14 years to replace the road.
[00:14]	DaemonFC	MinceR, ^
[00:14]	DaemonFC	Then after causing 14 years of bad traffic, they backslap each other because "it's for the environment".
[00:15]	DaemonFC	Like "You widened an intersection and it took 14 years. My nephew is 14. How in the hell have you taken 14 years to widen an intersection?".
[00:15]	TR News	ZDNet "Linux" section: only 9 stories in one month. It used to be 2-3 times PER DAY. ZDNet is dying. Good riddance. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet
[00:15]	TR Bot	 ZDNet - Techrights
[00:16]	DaemonFC	Cost overruns are how the corrupt union bosses stay employed.
[00:17]	TR News	'Cancel culture' is usually not about getting rid of terrible people but of uncomfortable messages; getting some messengers 'scandalised' is the method and a cautionary tale/deterrence.
[00:19]	TR News	Webspam: "Before we continue, wed like to tell you about (insert product name here). We host LinuxAndUbuntu on (insert product name here) VPS. Check them out" http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36799/
[00:19]	TR Bot	Native Advertising: WordPress 6.0 Soon To Be Released With these new Features
[00:20]	TR News	When LXer mistakenly posts links to Microsoft puff pieces. "You are right, I removed it." http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36798/
[00:20]	TR Bot	Why is this on LXer?: Windows Insider builds are back for Lenovo PCs in China
[00:22]	TR News	"Fedora, creating landfill... for the good of the planet. [...] This is a kid's joke after CentOS 8.x support ( new face of RH ) was aborted" http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36797/
[00:22]	TR Bot	Using Fedora logic: Fedora Plans to Drop Support for Legacy BIOS Systems
[00:22]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/05/09/funny-and-sad-05-09-22/
[00:22]	TR Bot	 20 Posts That Are Equal Parts Funny And Sad
[00:27]	TR News	"I just made my first videogame, a pong clone. It's funny because I've done a bit of programming at work and even a text based game or two, but never something remotely graphical." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/931
[00:30]	TR News	The Linux Foundation sure loves its rapist; maybe a forced marriage is in order, too? It was always about money, nothing else http://techrights.org/2022/05/09/microsoft-takes-control-lf/
[00:33]	DaemonFC	Microsoft was really big on doing languages and compilers. It would have been nicer if any of it worked and stayed working.
[00:33]	DaemonFC	Now they don't even have to fuck that up. They can just wait for others to do it for them and then buy the foundation behind those.
[00:38]	MinceR	and then fuck them up
[00:39]	schestowitz-TR	no other options, no choice
[00:39]	schestowitz-TR	IE6
[00:40]	schestowitz-TR	IR6 monoculture was smashed by Firefox
[00:40]	schestowitz-TR	because Mi ShellBanker killed Moilla
[00:41]	schestowitz-TR	for $3,000,000+ per year
[00:41]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, I usually do tax planning like I was saying earlier. If we're on the verge of losing more than we gain, I just do unpaid time off and have the tax department eat it.
[00:41]	schestowitz-TR	the biggest tax right not is inflation
[00:42]	DaemonFC	Sometimes you're like a few hundred bucks away from owing the IRS another $1,000 or something.
[00:42]	schestowitz-TR	walmart prices up 25%
[00:42]	schestowitz-TR	profits up maybe 15%
[00:42]	schestowitz-TR	salaries rise 5%
[00:42]	DaemonFC	So it makes more sense to take a couple unpaid days off in front of the TV and get a bigger tax refund.
[00:42]	schestowitz-TR	thank you, Waltons!
[00:43]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, Yeah, some of Walmart's benefits are really good, some aren't worth signing up for.
[00:43]	schestowitz-TR	IRS is a global joke
[00:43]	schestowitz-TR	they take tax
[00:43]	schestowitz-TR	then they give you a big job
[00:43]	schestowitz-TR	and then "return" some of what they took
[00:43]	DaemonFC	The vision plan gets you a discount, but you have to use it off their insanely marked up eyeglass prices.
[00:43]	schestowitz-TR	instead of just taking the correct amount to begin with
[00:43]	DaemonFC	And how often do you really need an exam and new glasses?
[00:44]	schestowitz-TR	encumbered stressed citizens who might already be working 2 jobs only to earn the salary of one
[00:44]	DaemonFC	If you push it, probably a few years. Once every few years.
[00:44]	DaemonFC	So you can sign up for Walmart's vision plan but it's just going to cost you money, in premiums and forcing you into their Vision Center, which is like 5 times the cost of going online with your prescription.
[00:45]	DaemonFC	Ohhhhh, I can get a $100 discount from a pair of $500 glasses! Look at me! All I had to do was pay $300 in premiums! Can you believe I even got an eye exam out of this?
[00:46]	TR News	howtoforge has been taken over by some dodgy new owner, I suspect (not Falko), who then outsourced the whole thing to clownflare, now blocking a lot of people who don't run JS (the site itself does not need it, but clownflare the cancer wants it). So RSS feeds too have died. howtoforge cannot survive like this...
[00:46]	DaemonFC	I mean, you go online and you can get two nice pair of glasses for $125 if you buy them at once. An exam is like $70.
[00:47]	DaemonFC	So you do that once every 3 years, that's $65 a year averaged out. If you buy the Walmart vision insurance, it's $300 over 3 years just for the insurance.
[00:47]	TR News	BillBC will also be defunded and die in a few years. Its current business plan is taking Jeffrey Epstein and Bill and Lolita Gates Foundation bribe money for reputation laundering. Jimmy Savile is back. But now with BRIBES.
[00:47]	DaemonFC	Then you need to pay $750 for two pair of glasses after the discount.
[00:48]	DaemonFC	So they make $1,050 off of you when you could have just paid $195 over the same time period.
[00:48]	DaemonFC	What kind of shitty insurance costs you five times more than going uninsured?
[00:49]	DaemonFC	And for major eye surgery or something, there's no coverage at all.
[00:49]	DaemonFC	So it's not like you're even buying it in case you need cataract surgery or something someday.
[00:49]	DaemonFC	There's no justification for buying this.
[00:50]	DaemonFC	But it's still "tax advantaged".
[00:50]	DaemonFC	So the IRS is subsidizing insurance that takes more than it's worth out of you.
[00:51]	DaemonFC	Our tax laws make pretty much no sense whatsoever.
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● May 10
[01:11]	chicksahoy	speaking of taxes, the canadian gov't now allows simple tax returns to be filed online for free
[01:11]	chicksahoy	something thats bound to piss off turbotax, etc
[01:12]	chicksahoy	it'll even do "autofill" which basically puts in the info from the forms they've received from employers
[01:13]	chicksahoy	turbotax, etc, they lobby the US gov't to stop that from happening in the USA
[01:15]	chicksahoy	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj4anUL-LvY
[01:15]	TR Bot	https://y.com.sb/watch?v=Fj4anUL-LvY
[01:15]	TR Bot	y.com.sb | Adam Ruins Everything - The Real Reason Taxes Suck (And Why They Don't Have To) | truTV - Invidious
[01:17]	bnchs	adam ruins everything
[01:18]	chicksahoy	yeah adam ruins everything is quite good
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[01:50]	DaemonFC	TurboTax owes us money.
[01:51]	DaemonFC	The FTC sued them because they were committing fraudulent advertising about free tax returns and then violating the terms of the IRS Free File program.
[01:51]	DaemonFC	So I think we'll get at least $30 and perhaps as much as $90.
[01:51]	DaemonFC	I think it'll probably be $60 though.
[01:52]	DaemonFC	The first year I filed, they billed me for taking an American Opportunity Tax Credit and some other refundable credits even though we actually had no taxable income that year.
[01:52]	DaemonFC	2019 was bad.
[01:52]	DaemonFC	I was living off of credit cards.
[01:53]	DaemonFC	2020 was better.
[01:53]	DaemonFC	USCIS figured they'd issue Mandy's work permit and then call us in the next week and ask how we'd support ourselves.
[01:54]	DaemonFC	Then COVID caused them to shut down all of their offices and he found a job the day our original interview was canceled.
[01:54]	DaemonFC	THen by the time they actually got us in, he'd been employed for about a year.
[01:55]	DaemonFC	I told him "Go apply at Walmart." and his idiot sister was demanding that he take a 90 day temp job at Medline and was furious because he applied there and they told him no, and he took the job at Walmart.
[01:56]	DaemonFC	She tried to extort me for his entire paycheck "Or I'll drop the support affidavit I signed.". I told her "Go ahead.". She paid some scumbag lawyer a bunch of money to get rid of it and then texted us the papers she was sending there, like to try to harass me.
[01:57]	DaemonFC	Then she started screaming at Catholic Charities, which is where I went to file our case because it was $800 there and I didn't have any money, and Trump was going to change the law in a month to where they wouldn't accept our filing if I didn't beat the deadline.
[01:57]	DaemonFC	Catholic Charities dumped us and said they wouldn't represent us anymore and she was "blowing up their email and ringing their phone off the hook". I told them, "Well, that is disorderly conduct. I suggest you call the police if you feel it's getting out of hand.".
[01:58]	DaemonFC	(Calling someone on the phone repeatedly with the primary intention of making the phone ring is disorderly conduct.)
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[01:59]	DaemonFC	So I waited. Ended up filing an extension of his work permit, and it was approved.
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[02:00]	DaemonFC	Waited some more, they scheduled a new interview. I hired a new lawyer, had her fill out a replacement sponsorship contract using the federal regulation that allows "the intending immigrant's own income to qualify if they are being sponsored by their US citizen spouse", and to project his current income for a year, based on all of the payroll stubs I saved.
[02:01]	DaemonFC	They threw MARISOL's letter and the support affidavit she filled out in the trash and filed the new one and approved us.
[02:02]	DaemonFC	But before that happened, and before Mandy had been employed long, I filed bankruptcy and cleared out several hundred thousand dollars worth of my own debt, so USCIS couldn't ask me how we'd support the household with all the debt, because there is no debt.
[02:04]	DaemonFC	So in the span of 20 months I beat back criminal charges, got married, filed an immigration case out of the motel room I was living in off credit card debt after tricking that idiot into helping us get it filed thinking she'd shake me down later, found my spouse a job, filed bankruptcy, and rebooted the immigration case.
[02:04]	DaemonFC	During all of that, I decided that I'd stick it to the government again, so I filed a lawsuit against the State Police and forced them to give me my gun permit back.
[02:06]	DaemonFC	I think matey understands that I actually like dealing with legal paperwork sometimes just because I find it amusing.
[02:06]	DaemonFC	That guy that thought he was going to fuck me on the car keys ended up with me filing a 12 page credit card dispute in which I left him no plausible way to respond to.
[02:06]	DaemonFC	And that was over $200.
[02:07]	DaemonFC	By refusing to just hand me my money back he got the $238 (or whatever it was...something like that) clawed back by the bank and then they took another $100 from him for having to investigate it.
[02:08]	DaemonFC	I thought it was funnier than all get out because I asked for a refund and he threatened to call the police on me. 
[02:08]	DaemonFC	So I got on my credit card website and said "Okay fucker.".
[02:09]	DaemonFC	I wish I had just gone to Buick to begin with.
[02:10]	DaemonFC	I figured it would be like $500 a key because the guy at KIA, when I was buying the KIA Soul, said "Don't ever lose these. They're $550 each if you have to replace one.".
[02:10]	DaemonFC	So it stuck in my head "Hey, if you have a security key, don't go to the dealer. Go to a locksmith or something.".
[02:11]	DaemonFC	And that's true on some cars, but Buick doesn't charge more than the locksmiths or Battery Nazi.
[02:11]	DaemonFC	And locksmiths and Battery Nazi are just hit or miss.
[02:12]	DaemonFC	I'm glad I didn't go on vacation or something and end up 300 miles from home and then Battery Asshole's key decided to glitch out.
[02:12]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, I changed my Yelp review of the Battery Nazi as they kept yanking it and shouting "Code of Conduct!".
[02:13]	DaemonFC	This one looks like they're going to let it stay up.
[02:13]	DaemonFC	Apparently calling someone a lunatic for behaving like a lunatic (yelling, cursing, threatening to call the police, over an unsatisfied customer....) is not okay. Who knew?
[02:17]	chicksahoy	lol
[02:17]	chicksahoy	good one DaemonFC 
[02:19]	DaemonFC	chicksahoy, I included in the credit card dispute that had I known I'd be walking into Batteries Plus Crazy Person, I'd have just gone to Buick right away, and I had to go to Buick and pay them to redo everything, and here's my receipt from Buick with the technician affirming that there was no way to get any of the stuff Batteries Plus sold me to work.
[02:20]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KE0njnZXyY
[02:20]	TR Bot	https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=1KE0njnZXyY
[02:20]	TR Bot	invidious.snopyta.org | Rimmer's Gone Wrong | Red Dwarf | BBC Studios - Invidious
[02:21]	chicksahoy	DaemonFC: nice
[02:23]	DaemonFC	Well, this is nice.
[02:24]	DaemonFC	The post office sent back the authorized user credit cards I got (to hold onto) in my mom's name on my account to help her credit score, saying she wasn't on the box.
[02:25]	DaemonFC	But they give me everyone's junk mail, including the $3,000 in unpaid parking ticket woman, the guy who fucked a 12 year old in Michigan and failed to register, and Paul's notification that his idiotic vehicle protection plan will have a price increase.
[02:25]	DaemonFC	This is where I finally had to apply for an apartment because everyone else has standards.
[02:25]	DaemonFC	:/
[02:26]	DaemonFC	The Gang Police were out here one day hauling some guy off.
[02:26]	DaemonFC	On a few occasions, a guy was beating up his girlfriend and dragging her through the hallways, and I called 911 and the guy must have heard me because he came and stared at my door for a while.
[02:27]	DaemonFC	It's fine. Let him beat down my front door so Smith & Wesson can teach him the error of his ways.
[02:27]	DaemonFC	That's what I say.
[02:28]	DaemonFC	I was standing in here with a loaded revolver aimed at the door.
[02:28]	DaemonFC	It's important that you wait until they're actually in your apartment, and then it's very difficult for the prosecutor to claim that you weren't justified.
[02:29]	DaemonFC	But he just stared at the door for a while and then left.
[02:29]	DaemonFC	I think he thought he was intimidating me.
[02:29]	DaemonFC	Had he gone further, that would have been the end of his life.
[02:30]	DaemonFC	He'll never know that. People piss off the wrong person and then that's the end of that.
[02:30]	DaemonFC	If it wasn't me that day it'll be some drug dealer with a piece that plugs him some other day, because that's how it is.
[02:31]	DaemonFC	I don't really think it would fuck me up forever if I absolutely had to defend myself. I think the anti-gun groups borrowed a page out of the "You'll feel like shit forever if you have an abortion." playbook.
[02:32]	DaemonFC	I know my mind and my conscience well enough to know what would leave me scarred for life.
[02:33]	DaemonFC	Joining an army (voluntarily) and killing another soldier might. Killing someone for no reason or in furtherance of a crime definitely would.
[02:34]	DaemonFC	But I don't subscribe to that "You should feel guilty for dropping some no good waste of skin that was trying to murder you." thing. I don't see how anyone would. You should sleep like a baby after that.
[02:35]	DaemonFC	There are certain things in life where everyone has a choice as to whether they're going to do right or wrong, and doing wrong comes with risks.
[02:36]	DaemonFC	But I live in a pretty bad place, but I make the most of it. The safe places all cost twice as much to rent....for a reason.
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[02:46]	chicksahoy	DaemonFC: you're a good man
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[03:08]	DaemonFC	Good...bad...I'm the guy with the gun. (Army of Darkness)
[03:08]	DaemonFC	MinceR, ^
[03:08]	MinceR	:>
[03:09]	DaemonFC	I wonder what gun laws are like in Hungary.
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[03:10]	DaemonFC	Ohhh, worse than Illinois.
[03:11]	DaemonFC	That's impressive.
[03:11]	MinceR	most places have worse gun laws than the usa
[03:11]	DaemonFC	Maybe they're worried people will shoot at Russians after Orban invites them over.
[03:12]	DaemonFC	Lukashenko was wrong when he described himself as Europe's last dictator.
[03:12]	DaemonFC	Although he may be slightly worse than Orban.
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[03:14]	DaemonFC	Oh this is nice.
[03:15]	DaemonFC	NordVPN decided to start routing me to Panama again.
[03:30]	MinceR	it has more to do with government overreach and millions of stupid people blindly trusting the state
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[04:17]	psydruid	https://www.kiratas.com/ct-3003-is-x86-dead-mac-studio-vs-windows-pc-in-the-everyday-test/
[04:17]	TR Bot	3003: is x86 dead? | Mac Studio vs. Windows PC in the everyday test - Kiratas
[04:21]	MinceR	they must be using an unusual definition for "dead" if it can be "tested"
[04:31]	activelow	good morning
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[04:59]	hero	Panama is south its not north
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[05:01]	hero	why MinceR op?
[05:02]	hero	GM activelow
[05:04]	hero	tuxmachines site isn't working openning
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[05:10]	hero	techrights_guest|52 is that you activelow?
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[06:51]	TR Bot	Maps
[06:53]	darwin	The Beatles claimed to have become bigger than Jesus, then Brian Kernighan & Dennis Ritchie (K&R) & Ken Thompson became bigger than God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit... others might say RMS, Linus Torvalds, Patrick Volkerding
[06:55]	darwin	i know, UNIX always was proprietary but almost all source code was available, and still is after Caldera/SCO opened it (forgot if was free/libre/copyleft license) in recent decades, so in recent years we're even seeing old Unix utilities & shells being ported to modern POSIX-based/Unix/GNU/Linux OS and AT&T & SCO & etc. apparently don't care
[06:56]	darwin	i hope versions seven to 10 will be opened also, or better yet freed
[06:57]	darwin	part why it wasn't considered free/libre is originally and maybe still to some extent it's only for non-commercial usage, which is okay for personal usage but RMS criticized non-commercial licenses
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[06:59]	darwin	so yeah, unfortunately 'opensource' (concept also predating the term) still has relevant meaning for code you can read & use and learn from, maybe even distribute changes, but not use commercially.  I'm against opensource and avoid the term but unfortunately it's not over yet
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[07:00]	darwin	i think the Unix creators are/were good people, just exploited by AT&T & etc.
[07:07]	TR News	Ola Bini https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/eff-and-other-civil-society-organizations-issue-report-danger-digital-rights-what | Source: EFF
[07:07]	TR Bot	 EFF and Other Civil Society Organizations Issue Report on Danger to Digital Rights in Ola Bini Trial | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[07:08]	schestowitz-TR	Ariadne:  the device /dev/vda3 might need looking into. We've noticed that since January the backup dumps and gz periodically fail and demesg shows some errors on XFS, e.g. writeback error on sector [number]
[07:08]	schestowitz-TR	maybe it's something other than the FS/device, just want to be sure. Last month we noticed one .gif file becoming an empty file.
[07:09]	TR News	"In addition, the CLEAR program provided Automated License Plate Reader (ALPR) data collected by Vigilant Solutions to ICE." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/thomson-reuters-review-human-rights-impact-its-data-collection-ice | Source: EFF
[07:09]	TR Bot	 Thomson Reuters to Review Human Rights Impact of its Data Collection for ICE | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[07:15]	TR News	"The microcontrollers used by the Nicla Vision are the Arm Cortex M7 (up to 480MHz) and the Arm Cortex M4 (240MHz)." https://linuxgizmos.com/arduino-nicla-vision-integrates-stm32h7-mcu-with-wi-fi-ble-and-camera-support/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
[07:15]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/arduino-nicla-vision-integrates-stm32h7-mcu-with-wi-fi-ble-and-camera-support/ )
[07:16]	TR News	"fheroes2, a game engine reimplementation for Heroes of Might and Magic II" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/fheroes2-for-heroes-of-might-and-magic-ii-improves-hotkeys-cursors-and-languages/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[07:16]	TR Bot	for Heroes of Might and Magic II improves hotkeys, cursors and languages | GamingOnLinux
[07:16]	TR News	"Another classic gets a new life thanks to ScummVM, which just recently added support for the 1995 shooter Wetlands." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/scummvm-adds-support-for-the-1995-shooter-wetlands-from-hypnotix/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[07:16]	TR Bot	adds support for the 1995 shooter Wetlands from Hypnotix | GamingOnLinux
[07:16]	TR News	"Wave Break, originally a timed-exclusive for Stadia that released on Steam in June 2021 just had a big upgrade" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/wave-break-from-funktronic-labs-gets-a-major-update-and-native-linux-support/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[07:16]	TR Bot	Break from Funktronic Labs gets a major update and Native Linux support | GamingOnLinux
[07:17]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D584.jpg
[07:18]	TR News	"I'm using `toot tui` for Mastodon and `mcabber` for XMPP. It could be a good idea to switch to `tut` and `profanity`. But I'm too lazy now, to learn new keybindings. ;-)" gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi
[07:19]	TR News	"Heroic Games Launcher continues evolving to provide a way to manage your Epic Games and GOG libraries on Linux" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/05/heroic-games-launcher-for-epic-a-gog-gets-themes-platform-selection-favourites/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[07:19]	TR Bot	Games Launcher for Epic & GOG gets themes, platform selection, favourites | GamingOnLinux
[07:20]	TR News	"With the update to qemu 7.0.0 the package has been turned into a more fine grained split package utilizing meta packages." https://archlinux.org/news/qemu-700-changes-split-package-setup/ |
[07:20]	TR Bot	 Arch Linux - News: QEMU >= 7.0.0 changes split package setup
[07:21]	TR News	"Nokia and Red Hat have been collaborating to get cloud RAN solution" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/how-nokia-and-red-hat-are-bringing-cloud-ran-reality | Source: Red Hat Official
[07:21]	TR Bot	 How Nokia and Red Hat are bringing cloud RAN to reality
[07:21]	TR News	"Vehicle connectivity, smart homes, new SoCs and a real-time Ubuntu kernel captured the headlines this April" https://ubuntu.com//blog/state-of-iot-april-2022 | Source: Ubuntu
[07:21]	TR Bot	State of IoT April 2022 | Ubuntu
[07:23]	TR News	"dvtm is awesome, combined with nnn for example, this fully replaces midnight commander, is modular etc..." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-080522.html#tMay%2008%2023:57:21
[07:23]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, May 08, 2022
[07:23]	TR News	"If our mainstream press was not playing a both-sides game to appear objective, it would rebut the governments claim with facts and figures." https://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-070522.html#tMay%2007%2023:35:18
[07:23]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, May 07, 2022
[07:34]	TR News	"DMCA subpoena shortcut to expose alleged BitTorrent pirates." https://torrentfreak.com/filmmakers-identify-dozens-of-alleged-bittorrent-pirates-using-dmca-shortcut-220509/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[07:34]	TR Bot	Identify Dozens of Alleged BitTorrent Pirates Using DMCA Shortcut * TorrentFreak
[07:34]	TR News	"two 'pirate' lyrics sites" https://torrentfreak.com/six-month-sentence-for-operator-of-copyright-infringing-lyric-radio-portals-220509/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[07:34]	TR Bot	Month Sentence For Operator of Copyright-Infringing Lyric & Radio Portals * TorrentFreak
[07:36]	TR News	"On Friday, the folks at AlmaLinux announced the beta release of version 8.6 Sky Tiger." https://fossforce.com/2022/05/almalinux-8-6-beta-sky-tiger-released-testers-needed/ | Source: Unicorn Media
[07:36]	TR Bot	 AlmaLinux 8.6 Beta 'Sky Tiger' Released - Testers Needed - FOSS Force
[07:38]	TR News	"The latest version of NebuTech's NBMiner software has fully cracked Nvidia's Lite Hash Rate (LHR)" https://screenrant.com/nvidia-lite-hash-rate-bypassed-windows-linux-cryptominers/ | Source: Screen Rant
[07:38]	TR Bot	 Cryptominers Are Bypassing Nvidia's Anti-Mining Technology
[07:41]	TR News	"For the majority of workloads, fiddling with assembly instructions isnt worth it." https://hackaday.com/2022/05/09/avx-512-when-the-bits-really-count/ | Source: Hackaday
[07:41]	TR Bot	When The Bits Really Count | Hackaday
[07:44]	TR News	"The humble USB-C port has brought us so many advantages over its USB ancestors" https://hackaday.com/2022/05/09/a-raspberry-pi-as-an-offboard-display-adapter/ | Source: Hackaday
[07:44]	TR Bot	Raspberry Pi As An Offboard Display Adapter | Hackaday
[07:47]	TR News	Missing the point that the business model is mass manipulation by oligarchs https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/09/will-people-actually-be-happier-if-elon-musk-is-selling-their-data-instead-of-pushing-ads/ | Source: Techdirt
[07:47]	TR Bot	People Actually Be Happier If Elon Musk Is Selling Their Data Instead Of Pushing Ads? | Techdirt
[07:47]	TR News	"There are several reasons law enforcement agencies would take care not to associate themselves with Clearview." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/09/staten-island-district-attorney-used-forfeiture-funds-to-secretly-purchase-clearview-ai-access/ | Source: Techdirt
[07:47]	TR Bot	Island District Attorney Used Forfeiture Funds To Secretly Purchase Clearview AI Access | Techdirt
[07:51]	TR News	"These companies don't need a White House ceremony" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/09/isps-under-fire-sabotaging-biden-fcc-white-house-touts-broadband-program | Source: Common Dreams
[07:51]	TR Bot	 ISPs Under Fire for Sabotaging Biden FCC as White House Touts Broadband Program
[07:51]	TR News	"The $1 trillion infrastructure package passed by Congress last year included $14.2 billion funding for the Affordable Connectivity Program" https://www.voanews.com/a/6563736.html | Source: VOA News
[07:51]	TR Bot	 Biden Starts Program to Provide Discounted Internet Service in US
[07:52]	TR News	"Today, most of us carry supercomputers in our pockets that happen to also take instantly-viewable pictures." https://hackaday.com/2022/05/09/will-we-ever-shake-the-polaroid-picture/ | Source: Hackaday
[07:52]	TR Bot	We Ever Shake The Polaroid Picture? | Hackaday
[07:52]	TR News	100 Million New COVID Infections Could Be Just Months Away https://truthout.org/articles/100-million-new-covid-infections-could-be-just-months-away/ | Source: TruthOut
[07:53]	TR Bot	 100 Million New COVID Infections Could Be Just Months Away
[07:54]	TR News	"Trump sued various social media companies for kicking him off their platforms" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/09/judge-is-not-at-all-impressed-by-trumps-lawsuit-against-twitter-dismisses-it-easily/ | Source: Techdirt
[07:54]	TR Bot	Is Not At All Impressed By Trumps Lawsuit Against Twitter; Dismisses It Easily | Techdirt
[07:54]	TR News	FCC and broadband https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/09/big-telecom-finally-ends-quest-to-ban-states-from-protecting-broadband-consumers/ | Source: Techdirt
[07:54]	TR Bot	Telecom Finally Ends Quest To Stop States From Protecting Broadband Consumers | Techdirt
[07:54]	TR News	Surveillance https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/09/privacy-advocates-celebrate-big-win-against-facial-recognition-giant | Source: Common Dreams
[07:54]	TR Bot	 Privacy Advocates Celebrate 'Big Win' Against Facial Recognition Giant
[07:55]	TR News	"EU Copyright Directive" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/09/copyright-industry-demands-finlands-version-of-upload-filters-should-be-more-unbalanced/ | Source: Techdirt
[07:55]	TR Bot	Industry Demands Finlands Version Of Upload Filters Should Be More Unbalanced | Techdirt
[07:56]	TR News	Privacy https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/09/congress-urged-reject-false-choice-tackling-big-tech-monopolies-or-protecting | Source: Common Dreams
[07:56]	TR Bot	 Congress Urged to Reject 'False Choice' of Tackling Big Tech Monopolies or Protecting Privacy
[07:57]	TR News	"pre-rulemaking stakeholder sessions" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/09/wherein-the-copia-institute-reminds-the-cppa-that-its-regulations-need-to-comport-with-the-first-amendment/ | Source: Techdirt
[07:57]	TR Bot	The Copia Institute Reminds Californias New Privacy Agency That Its Regulations Need To Comport With The First Amendment | Techdirt
[07:59]	TR News	"One of the ways that we propagate our central administrative filesystem to machines is through rsync" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/CheckRsyncMasterIsUp | Source: uni Toronto
[07:59]	TR Bot	 Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/CheckRsyncMasterIsUp
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[07:59]	TR News	"A couple weeks ago I updated my blog publishing workflow and wrote about it." https://tdarb.org/blog/my-static-blog-publishing-setup-part-2.html |
[07:59]	TR Bot	Static Blog Publishing Setup: Part 2 tdarb.org
[07:59]	TR News	[Old] "In case you missed it, this website is now generated with pure HTML & CSS." https://tdarb.org/blog/my-static-blog-publishing-setup.html |
[07:59]	TR Bot	Static Blog Publishing Setup and an Apology to RSS Subscribers tdarb.org
[07:59]	TR News	"Since my early days with FreeBSD I have been fascinated by VNET jails." https://www.boucek.me/blog/freebsd-jails-with-vnet-and-nat/ | Source: Marian Bouek
[07:59]	TR Bot	jails with VNET and NAT boucek.me
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[08:00]	TR News	"Right now, many use different clients, which is not the most comfortable option for a number of reasons" https://www.ghacks.net/2022/05/03/thunderbird-mobile-application-is-coming-soon/ | Source: Ghacks
[08:00]	TR Bot	 Thunderbird mobile application is coming soon - gHacks Tech News
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[08:01]	TR News	"Between striking out on some classic hardware projects" https://www.talospace.com/2022/05/firefox-100-on-power.html | Source: Talospace
[08:01]	TR Bot	 Firefox 100 on POWER
[08:01]	TR News	"I think SaaS (in general) will start to look more like cars" https://matt-rickard.com/code-managed-static-sites/ | Source: Matt Rickard
[08:01]	TR Bot	 Code Managed Service is Coming For Static Sites
[08:06]	TR News	jobhub https://www.fosslife.org/linux-new-media-launches-open-source-jobhub | Source: FOSSLife
[08:06]	TR Bot	 Linux New Media Launches Open Source JobHub
[08:07]	TR News	"Hard disk-seeking algorithms influenced many elevator algorithms (or maybe the other way around?)." https://matt-rickard.com/elevator-algorithms/ | Source: Matt Rickard
[08:07]	TR Bot	 Elevator Data Structures and Algorithms
[08:07]	TR News	"The third benefit is that you communicate to everybody else that this part of the code is hard to understand and needed careful inspection." https://www.sicpers.info/2022/05/you-say-cave-dweller-debugging-i-say-debug-logging/ | Source: SICP
[08:07]	TR Bot	 You say cave dweller debugging, I say debug logging | Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programmers
[08:07]	TR News	"So on the topic, Ill share my opinion on the matter based on my experience as an OSS maintainer building on top of sequel versus an alternative built for rails" https://honeyryderchuck.gitlab.io/httpx/2022/05/04/standing-on-the-shoulders-of-giants-and-leaky-abstractions.html |
[08:07]	TR Bot	 Standing on the shoulders of giants and leaky abstractions HTTPX
[08:07]	TR News	"Its super rewarding when you finally figure out how to plot and visualize your data" https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/05/the-basics-of-prototyping-and-exporting-your-plots-in-r/ | Source: Rlang
[08:08]	TR Bot	basics of prototyping and exporting your plots in R | R-bloggers
[08:08]	TR News	Bye, Twitter https://gregoryhammond.ca/blog/goodbye-twitter-posting/ |
[08:08]	TR Bot	 Goodbye Twitter posting - Gregory Hammond
[08:09]	TR News	"List of hard drives available for sale from Newegg.com, sorted by the price per TB." https://edwardbetts.com/price_per_tb/ |
[08:09]	TR Bot	 Price per TB
[08:09]	TR News	Microsoft Windows TCO https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3480165-colonial-pipeline-was-cyber-wake-up-call-ukraine-war-is-escalator/ | Source: The Hill
[08:10]	TR Bot	 Colonial Pipeline was cyber wake-up call; Ukraine war is escalator | The Hill
[08:10]	TR News	Openwashing https://www.digitaljournal.com/social-media/twitters-open-source-algorithm-is-transparency-the-best-policy/article |
[08:10]	TR Bot	 Twitters open-source algorithm: Is transparency the best policy? - Digital Journal
[08:10]	TR News	"Facebook parent company Meta confirmed the news to The Verge." https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/9/23064109/facebook-getting-rid-location-tracking-features-nearby-friends-low-usage | Source: The Verge
[08:10]	TR Bot	 Facebook is getting rid of some location-tracking features due to low usage - The Verge
[08:11]	TR News	Energy wasted https://today.rtl.lu/news/business-and-tech/a/1910035.html | Source: RTL
[08:11]	TR Bot	 RTL Today - 'Crypto paradise': How Portugal became Europe's accidental 'bitcoin heaven'
[08:12]	TR News	"An Ohio House committee passed legislation Tuesday prohibiting social media companies like Facebook" https://www.rawstory.com/committee-passes-bill-to-block-social-media-from-censoring-users/ | Source: Raw Story
[08:12]	TR Bot	 Ohio House committee passes bill to block social media from 'censoring' users - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism
[08:12]	TR News	Misinformation https://variety.com/2022/film/news/tiktok-lionsgate-universal-gen-z-movie-audiences-1235237312/ | Source: Variety
[08:12]	TR Bot	Universal TikTok Accounts Tap Into Gen Z's Comedic Voice - Variety
[08:12]	TR News	Misinformation https://today.rtl.lu/news/fact-check/a/1910458.html | Source: RTL
[08:12]	TR Bot	 RTL Today - Fact Check : Posts mislead about environmental impact of electric cars
[08:13]	TR News	"The event was specifically a response to Ohio House Bill 327" https://kentwired.com/84519/latest-updates/breaking-bans-read-in-event-protests-against-ohio-house-bill-327/ |
[08:13]	TR Bot	 Breaking Bans read in event protests against Ohio House Bill 327 Kent Wired
[08:13]	TR News	"The Media Institute of Southern Africa (MISA) Zimbabwe immediately deployed lawyers to represent the journalists, who were also charged with disorderly conduct." https://www.voanews.com/a/zimbabwean-journalists-granted-bail-following-weekend-arrest-/6564226.html | Source: VOA News
[08:13]	TR Bot	 Zimbabwean Journalists Granted Bail Following Weekend Arrest 
[08:14]	TR News	"We spoke with reporters who said they repeatedly received harassing phone calls from readers." https://www.salon.com/2022/05/08/trolling-is-taking-a-toll-on-science-journalism_partner/ | Source: Salon
[08:14]	TR Bot	Is taking a toll on science journalism | Salon.com
[08:18]	TR News	IRC Proceedings: Monday, May 09, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/10/irc-log-090522/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/10/irc-log-090522/
[08:18]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Monday, May 09, 2022 | Techrights
[08:19]	TR News	"The Mars Helicopter might be on its way out but its still a hero, bad things are happening to the UK Internet and we blame the government, whether software can ever be finished, some great discoveries, KDE Korner, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-176/
[08:19]	TR Bot	 Late Night Linux Episode 176 Late Night Linux
[08:21]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164665
[08:21]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[08:30]	TR News	Destination Linux 277: Prepping for Linux Doomsday Commands - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/destination-linux/dl-277/ Source: TuxDigital | GNU | Linux
[08:30]	TR Bot	Prepping for Linux Doomsday Commands - Destination Linux - TuxDigital
[08:30]	TR News	Shame on ICBM Red Hat, shilling Microsoft proprietary software and surveillance https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/5/azure-cloud-services-cios-should-know Red Hat is a useless company....
[08:30]	TR Bot	 Azure cloud services: 5 questions CIOs should ask | The Enterprisers Project
[08:32]	TR News	NVIDIA LHR crypto mining gimp has been unlocked http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164640#comment-33599
[08:32]	TR Bot	 Kernel and Graphics: VK_KHR, Junkware, and NVIDIA LHR | Tux Machines
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[08:38]	TR News	Shows and Videos: Destination Linux, Late Night Linux, and Tesseract OCR Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164666
[08:38]	TR Bot	 Shows and Videos: Destination Linux, Late Night Linux, and Tesseract OCR | Tux Machines
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[08:50]	TR News	Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164667
[08:50]	TR Bot	 Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[08:50]	TR News	todays leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164668
[08:50]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[08:58]	TR News	Older workers in higher-paid industries are [choosing to work from home] - Vox https://www.vox.com/recode/23042785/the-great-resignation-older-tenured-higher-paid Source: vox
[08:58]	TR Bot	workers in higher-paid industries are joining the Great Resignation - Vox
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[09:02]	TR News	Links 09/05/2022: KDE Connect on Apple Things, Raspberry Digital Signage for Ubuntu 22.04 LTS | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/10/raspberry-digital-signage-for-ubuntu-22-lts/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/10/raspberry-digital-signage-for-ubuntu-22-lts/
[09:02]	TR Bot	 Links 09/05/2022: KDE Connect on Apple Things, Raspberry Digital Signage for Ubuntu 22.04 LTS | Techrights
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[09:26]	TR News	"Between pandemics, historic economic crashes, bull runs, and crashes again, war, climate change, record breaking weather, the ever encroaching threat of climate change, and the general apparent downward spiral of American society in general, it's hard to find anything to be optimistic about." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/932
[09:31]	TR News	BillBC (BBC) has both a history and a present of covering up for pedophilia and underage sex trafficking. Nobody should tolerate this. Boycott BBC.
[09:32]	TR News	They might look the same, but Apple's has back doors https://linuxhint.com/make_ubuntu_look_like_mac_os/
[09:32]	TR Bot	 How to make Ubuntu 20.04 look like Mac OS
[09:34]	TR News	Just delete Facebook itself https://orthodoxpirate.blogspot.com/2022/05/how-to-delete-all-your-facebook-photos.html
[09:34]	TR Bot	 How to delete all your facebook photos with python - Orthodox Pirate
[09:38]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164669
[09:38]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[09:58]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D227.jpg
● May 10
[10:02]	TR News	Weather over Geminispace without tracking, without JS, without having to open bloated browsers gemini://caolan.uk/weather/nw/greater_manchester.gmi
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[11:25]	TR News	ZDNet is Dying | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/10/zdnet-is-dying/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/10/zdnet-is-dying/
[11:25]	TR Bot	 ZDNet is Dying | Techrights
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[11:44]	DaemonFC	https://www.history.com/news/nato-article-5-meaning-history-world-war-2
[11:44]	TR Bot	Is NATOs Article 5? - HISTORY
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[11:44]	DaemonFC	Putin has tried setting up hos own version of NATO.
[11:45]	DaemonFC	Apparently, the United States wouldn't dare attack if Kazakhstan was obligated to do something.
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[11:49]	bnchs	fuck turbotax and shit
[11:49]	bnchs	hey let's make filing taxes hard
[11:49]	bnchs	so you pay us to do it
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[11:52]	bnchs	hey crystal meth
[11:52]	bnchs	"The 2003 version of the TurboTax software contained digital rights management that tracked whether it had previously been installed on a computer by writing to sector 33 on the hard drive. This allowed it to track if it was on a computer previously, even through reinstalling the operating system. This also caused it to conflict with some boot loaders that store data there, rendering those computers unbootable"
[11:53]	bnchs	turbotax, i'm gonna write to the boot sector because fuck you
[11:54]	psydroid2	it's something peculiar to the US to even have to pay for tax filing software
[11:54]	bnchs	even to pay for a tax filing software that will defile your bootloader
[11:54]	TR News	HydraPaper: A Wallpaper Manager for Linux with Multi-Monitor Support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164670
[11:54]	TR Bot	 HydraPaper: A Wallpaper Manager for Linux with Multi-Monitor Support | Tux Machines
[11:55]	psydroid2	the Dutch IRS had a Linux x86 version of tax software for many years in addition to Windows and Mac versions
[11:55]	psydroid2	now it's all online
[11:55]	bnchs	psydroid2, they just compiled it?
[11:55]	psydroid2	and of course you didn't have to pay for it, because you are already paying enough taxes
[11:55]	TR News	Elementary OS vs Ubuntu Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164671
[11:55]	TR Bot	 Elementary OS vs Ubuntu | Tux Machines
[11:55]	psydroid2	bnchs, yes, it was developed using a portable toolkit
[11:55]	TR News	10 Fun Free and Open Source 2D Shooter Games Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164672
[11:55]	TR Bot	 10 Fun Free and Open Source 2D Shooter Games | Tux Machines
[11:55]	TR News	6 easy ways to make your first open source contribution with LibreOffice Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164673
[11:55]	TR Bot	 6 easy ways to make your first open source contribution with LibreOffice | Tux Machines
[11:56]	activelow	i bet almost none of the governmental online services could be navigated with a unix text console browser
[11:56]	TR News	Retro-style computer features 5-inch round display, Framework laptop motherboard Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164674
[11:56]	TR Bot	 Retro-style computer features 5-inch round display, Framework laptop motherboard | Tux Machines
[11:56]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164675
[11:56]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[11:56]	bnchs	microsoft would scoop their eyes out
[11:56]	bnchs	portable toolkit
[11:56]	bnchs	no why you not write in Win32!!!
[11:56]	TR News	#HowTo Upgrade to Fedora 36 from Fedora 35 Workstation (GUI and CLI Method) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164676
[11:56]	TR Bot	 How to Upgrade to Fedora 36 from Fedora 35 Workstation (GUI and CLI Method) | Tux Machines
[11:57]	activelow	by coincidence, properly designed and implemented online services which support unix type text console, those can be secure
[11:57]	activelow	not saying linux, because it isn't a linux issue
[11:57]	bnchs	psydroid2, is it free software?
[11:58]	TR News	You can now buy Khadas VIM4 SBC for $199.90 - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/05/10/buy-khadas-vim4-sbc/
[11:58]	TR Bot	 You can now buy Khadas VIM4 SBC for $199.90 - CNX Software
[11:58]	psydroid2	bnchs, it wasn't free software, no
[11:58]	bnchs	there should be a GNU package for filing taxes
[11:58]	psydroid2	as far as I know at least
[11:58]	TR News	The pace of publication at ZDNet this year is about half what it was a year ago and a third compared to 2 years ago; production and staff cuts have been made rather obvious, so the inflammatory clickbait and FUD are on the way out http://techrights.org/2022/05/10/zdnet-is-dying/
[11:58]	TR Bot	 ZDNet is Dying | Techrights
[11:58]	bnchs	it would be alot better than installing malware
● May 10
[12:01]	psydroid2	according to a prominent Dutch technology lawyer the Dutch IRS was violating various FOSS licences
[12:01]	psydroid2	https://blog.iusmentis.com/2008/04/02/belastingdienst-schendt-open-source-licenties/
[12:01]	TR Bot	 Belastingdienst schendt open source licenties - Ius Mentis
[12:01]	bnchs	cough up el source codio
[12:01]	bnchs	or i'll sue you to the bankio
[12:02]	bnchs	openssl's license is shit though not gonna lie
[12:03]	bnchs	glad they changed it in the new versions
[12:05]	psydroid2	https://blog.iusmentis.com/2019/02/21/geen-nieuwe-linux-versies-meer-van-aangiften-lh-en-vpb-mag-dat/
[12:05]	TR Bot	 Geen nieuwe Linux-versies meer van aangiften LH en Vpb, mag dat? - Ius Mentis
[12:06]	psydroid2	never versions weren't built for Linux anymore, because they weren't used
[12:07]	bnchs	and i don't get tax filing software at all
[12:09]	bnchs	i mean if it's for assistance, then yes
[12:09]	bnchs	but using it entirely to file your taxes
[12:09]	bnchs	why?
[12:10]	psydroid2	it's supposed to help you not screw up but that should be your own responsibility
[12:11]	bnchs	the traditional method is using a calculator
[12:12]	psydroid2	you can't even file your taxes on paper anymore here
[12:12]	psydroid2	it has to be done digitally using their software, I presume
[12:12]	bnchs	explain?
[12:12]	schestowitz	yesterday on the phone I lectured some pensions providers on "digital"
[12:13]	schestowitz	and how dumb it is to expect people to do things "online"
[12:13]	schestowitz	they should send out papers and such
[12:13]	schestowitz	some things do need a hard copy and trail
[12:13]	schestowitz	but the companies look to cut down costs
[12:13]	schestowitz	and then use greenwashing as an excuse
[12:13]	schestowitz	as if buying a PC and then using up energy is "green"
[12:13]	psydroid2	bnchs, there is no more exemption to do it on paper, not since 2012 at least
[12:14]	bnchs	and what is this digital format
[12:14]	bnchs	is it a proprietary format?
[12:14]	psydroid2	I don't know if there is any compatible free software filing software, I don't expect there to be any
[12:16]	psydroid2	it looks like it is a proprietary format
[12:16]	bnchs	what software do they tell you to use
[12:16]	psydroid2	their own proprietary software or their website
[12:17]	psydroid2	I can't find any information on the format or the software
[12:24]	TR News	IBM/Red Hat Promoting Microsoft Surveillance and Proprietary Software Instead of Freedom-Centric, Self-Hosted, Privacy-Respecting, and Real GNU/Linux Servers | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/10/clown-instead-of-free-software/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/10/clown-instead-of-free-software/
[12:24]	TR Bot	 IBM/Red Hat Promoting Microsoft Surveillance and Proprietary Software Instead of Freedom-Centric, Self-Hosted, Privacy-Respecting, and Real GNU/Linux Servers | Techrights
[12:25]	DaemonFC	I was just thinking about that episode of Married With Children where they get a credit card in the mail in the dog's name.
[12:25]	DaemonFC	That actually happened to me once back in the 90s.
[12:25]	DaemonFC	They sent a letter to the dog and I was like "What the hell is a bank doing sending a letter to my dog?".
[12:25]	DaemonFC	Back then they frequently did just sign you up for a credit card without you even applying and stuck it in the mail.
[12:26]	DaemonFC	You could start charging things to it right away. It was crazy.
[12:26]	DaemonFC	I wondered how they signed up the dog. Dogs don't even have SSNs, so how do they do that?
[12:26]	bnchs	DaemonFC, i wonder how much money they spent on sending mail to people's dogs
[12:28]	DaemonFC	Well, it wasn't just junk mail, it was an activated credit card with a $1,000 spending limit! In like 1996!
[12:28]	DaemonFC	For a dog!
[12:28]	DaemonFC	And then now they make you beg for one with a $500 limit on it if you have had a bankruptcy, but they were fine mailing them out to dogs back in the 90s I guess.
[12:29]	DaemonFC	I was like "The fuck am I supposed to do with a $500 limit?".
[12:29]	bnchs	pranks like filling up people's gas tanks
[12:29]	bnchs	oh sending an activated credit card to a guy's dog
[12:29]	DaemonFC	$500 doesn't buy anything anymore.
[12:29]	DaemonFC	I woke up this morning. Gas is $5 a gallon now.
[12:29]	DaemonFC	Which means it's probably $6 in Chicago.
[12:30]	DaemonFC	You fill up the tank and buy groceries for a couple weeks, BAM, there's your $500 limit.
[12:30]	DaemonFC	They wonder why "nobody wants to work".
[12:31]	bnchs	i remember that king of the hill episode where hank used to joyride boomhower's car and fill it up with gas as a prank
[12:31]	DaemonFC	You have to work for an hour to buy gas to go to work that day.
[12:31]	DaemonFC	It's pretty demoralizing.
[12:31]	bnchs	why don't they do that nowadays
[12:31]	bnchs	considering how expensive it is
[12:31]	DaemonFC	Banks have gotten better about avoiding fraud. Back then they just didn't seem to care that much.
[12:32]	DaemonFC	They issued me a credit card when I was like 14.
[12:32]	DaemonFC	Which was illegal even then.
[12:32]	bnchs	wtf?
[12:32]	bnchs	how was that possible?
[12:32]	DaemonFC	Minors can't sign a contract and the law, even then, said you had to be 18 to have a credit card, unless you were just an authorized user on someone else's.
[12:33]	bnchs	did you sign anything
[12:33]	bnchs	or do anything exactly?
[12:33]	DaemonFC	Yeah, they sent me an application, I signed it, they sent me a credit card.
[12:33]	DaemonFC	It's Capital One for you.
[12:33]	bnchs	that was.... easy?
[12:35]	DaemonFC	Yeah. They had commercials on the TV all the time with vikings and sword fights and they'd always shout at each other "What's in your wallet!?".
[12:37]	DaemonFC	<bnchs> that was.... easy?
[12:37]	DaemonFC	It was. They also had CD/DVD clubs and I signed up for a bunch and then went "Well, I'm a kid, so...bye!" after the 9 DVDs for a penny or whatever.
[12:37]	bnchs	9 DVDs for a fucking penny??
[12:38]	bnchs	were they 4.4 GB?
[12:38]	DaemonFC	Yeah, they'd do that and you were obligated to buy 5 more for the normal price. And if you didn't reject it, they just sent you one every month.
[12:38]	TR News	"My wife needed to catch a plane this weekend. She hadn't felt quite right while packing, so the night before she left, we picked up two COVID-19 test kits. I had never taken one before, which is an interesting thought to me, since the pandemic has now lasted two and a half years." In 5 months 3 YEARS. How time flies. gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202205/20220509-2022-week-16-17-18-photos.gmi
[12:38]	DaemonFC	"Director's Choice"
[12:39]	DaemonFC	Well, 9 DVDs at the store were like $350 at the time, plus tax.
[12:39]	DaemonFC	So you had to go through a brochure that listed everything they had in their warehouse and put in the item number in each box.
[12:39]	DaemonFC	Then they'd mail it to you.
[12:40]	DaemonFC	There's a lot of reasons why shopping malls have collapsed.
[12:41]	DaemonFC	But with the rise of the Internet, there's been less of a demand for printed books and DVDs and CDs, software in boxes, and stuff, so they've all lost like 4-6 of their anchor tenants because of that alone.
[12:42]	DaemonFC	There's still a store in the Gurnee mall that sells CDs and DVDs, but it's always pretty much empty aside from the person working there.
[12:42]	DaemonFC	Lots of people complain today, I think, but you know. It's crazy what people used to pay for like one disc.
[12:43]	TR News	[Meme] IBM Does Not Want to THINK Anymore | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/10/meme-ibm-does-not-want-to-think-anymore/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/10/meme-ibm-does-not-want-to-think-anymore/
[12:43]	TR Bot	 [Meme] IBM Does Not Want to THINK Anymore | Techrights
[12:43]	DaemonFC	When CDs were relatively new, it was like $30-35 per disc, in the 80s. You still run across some with the original tag.
[12:43]	DaemonFC	Minimum wage was like $2 back then?
[12:43]	DaemonFC	So you had to be pretty well off to have a shelf of CDs.
[12:44]	bnchs	how far we've come beyond using paper tape
[12:44]	bnchs	they still use tape for data storage
[12:45]	DaemonFC	Yeah, I used to buy blank cassette tapes and use my aunt's stereo deck to copy off a CD onto a tape.
[12:45]	DaemonFC	Nothing stopped you from doing that.
[12:45]	DaemonFC	You had to do it in real time though.
[12:46]	DaemonFC	But the tapes were like $1 each maybe?
[12:46]	DaemonFC	Buying them pre-recorded was like $15, and buying the CD was twice that.
[12:46]	bnchs	tapes are pretty powerful
[12:46]	bnchs	they can handle tons of data
[12:47]	DaemonFC	So if your friend had a CD and you wanted to make a tape off it, it was worth the nuisance.
[12:47]	DaemonFC	Because each one you copied to a tape saved you abotu $14 or so.
[12:48]	TR News	Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164677
[12:48]	TR Bot	 Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
[12:48]	DaemonFC	I keep reading people complain about Bluetooth audio.
[12:48]	DaemonFC	What they really seem to mean is "I got a bunch of MP3s somewhere and they sound bad on Bluetooth.".
[12:49]	DaemonFC	To many conversions and filters by the time they actually hear it.
[12:49]	DaemonFC	Although a lot of the problem is just MP3 itself.
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[12:52]	DaemonFC	An integrated circuit institute/patent troll in Germany.
[12:52]	DaemonFC	I can't believe they still exist.
[12:53]	DaemonFC	The industry seems to prefer non-Free formats though. No problem for them. You're paying. It makes it that much easier to sue anyone who makes a compatible player.
[12:53]	DaemonFC	I'm surprised that they invested so much money in UHD Blu Ray just to watch it die.
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[12:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.98 k/sec., IPFS upstream 12.83 average k/sec., average swarm size 429.31
● May 10
[13:21]	TR News	"This year, 2022, May the 4th was my last day at Mozilla." https://www.otsukare.info/2022/05/04/bye-mozilla
[13:21]	TR Bot	 Mozilla, Bye! - otsukare
[13:44]	bnchs	"A person should be able to use the Web with any devices and any browsers."
[13:44]	bnchs	not anymore lol
[13:44]	bnchs	it's all chromium and chromium accessories
[13:44]	activelow	w3m, and see how far you'll get with it
[13:44]	bnchs	thank gulag's monopoly
[13:45]	bnchs	and their bullshit
[13:47]	activelow	it is _commerce_ bull***
[13:47]	activelow	computers were designed for science first and foremost... and nowadays...
[13:48]	bnchs	activelow, it's now designed for consumerism
[13:48]	activelow	if science and computers could be shielded from those commercial interests... yet instead the consumerist crap _dictates_ science instead
[13:49]	activelow	they say, this is "democracy" and "common good"
[13:49]	bnchs	the mobile phone age makes eternal september look like child's play
[13:58]	TR News	Karl Dubost: Mozilla, Bye! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164678
[13:58]	TR Bot	 Karl Dubost: Mozilla, Bye! | Tux Machines
● May 10
[14:00]	TR News	"Heads up! The OpenInfra Summit Berlin is coming!!! After the difficult pandemic times, the OpenInfra Summit is finally back" https://ubuntu.com//blog/openinfra-summit-berlin
[14:00]	TR Bot	Summit Berlin is coming | Ubuntu
[14:04]	TR News	Today will be Fedora 36 day. You get to run an edgy system and maybe stumble upon bugs to report to ICBM (so it can profit from its slaves). https://getfedora.org/
[14:04]	TR Bot	 Fedora
[14:05]	TR News	Last time I used Fedora on my system was 2010/11 (Fedora 14/Moonshine). It did have some annoying bugs. If you want a desktop distro that is stable, use Debian stable and its derivatives.
[14:05]	TR News	Melissa Wen on V3D Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164679
[14:05]	TR Bot	 Melissa Wen on V3D | Tux Machines
[14:06]	Techrights-sec	not just chrom(-ium)-only but specific, recent versions of Chrom(-ium) at that
[14:06]	Techrights-sec	furthermore there are few to any web pages left these days, what most people
[14:06]	Techrights-sec	encounter are javascript-based web applications futily tring to keep state
[14:06]	Techrights-sec	over a stateless protocol (http). 
[14:07]	schestowitz-TR	when people are taught framework instead of html basics... it's easy to just use APIs instead, but at what cost?
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[14:10]	schestowitz-TR	one little bouncing ball can be 1mb of download and 50mb of ram
[14:11]	schestowitz-TR	one fancy font for the headline is another megabyte
[14:11]	schestowitz-TR	just to render less than 100 charat=cters with "nicer" glyphs
[14:11]	schestowitz-TR	EU now realises it also lets gulag spy a lot
[14:11]	schestowitz-TR	so it says host the fonts locally
[14:11]	schestowitz-TR	instead of.... just stop throwing fonts at people
[14:11]	schestowitz-TR	their syhstemsm already has planety
[14:11]	schestowitz-TR	and it burns the planet, at routers and back/front ends
[14:11]	schestowitz-TR	you could calculate what % of web traffic is just fonts bouncing about
[14:11]	schestowitz-TR	(at work we had a client called cnelm, for which I helped to migrater the site to wordpress)
[14:11]	schestowitz-TR	(that was the first time I saw a "web designer" throwing FONTS!! in the CSS... huge fonts at that and 
[14:11]	schestowitz-TR	thought, wait, this is wrong... a Web page should not include  its own fonts. That was around 2014)
[14:11]	bnchs	schestowitz-TR, it's fucking retarded
[14:12]	bnchs	gulag font shit
[14:12]	schestowitz-TR	yeah
[14:12]	schestowitz-TR	spying... in exchange for FONTS
[14:12]	schestowitz-TR	that are not even special fonts
[14:12]	schestowitz-TR	and take up b/w and CPU
[14:12]	activelow	it isn't javascript anymore, javascript was bad enough, nowadays it is javascript and web assembly
[14:12]	bnchs	schestowitz-TR, not to mention tons of VRAM and GPU/CPU taken to render the invidiual glyphs of that font
[14:13]	Techrights-sec	yes "frameworks" are a pox  
[14:13]	Techrights-sec	it's a stage worse than when "PHP" was taught instead of HTML + CSS
[14:13]	Techrights-sec	speaking of bloat what is the URL for the 2019 survey posted at TR regarding
[14:13]	Techrights-sec	wasted bandwidth i nweb "pages"?
[14:13]	Techrights-sec	yep fonts get pulled in from around the net at enormous cost to bandwidth
[14:13]	Techrights-sec	and thus electricity
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[14:13]	activelow	the difference is, a capable browser from year 2013, with javascript and _without_ web-asm does not suppor most of the modern web crap anymore
[14:13]	schestowitz-TR	I cannot recall publishing something about this in 2019
[14:13]	schestowitz-TR	but I did complain about the Web back then
[14:13]	bnchs	these sites like to use fonts at bigger sizes
[14:14]	bnchs	which will waste more and more VRAM because the font renderer has to render the fonts at bigger levels
[14:14]	Techrights-sec	ack
[14:15]	bnchs	ack-ack
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[14:19]	activelow	meanwhile, i hacked dvtm+abduco... now de/re-attaching different terminal types (TERM=linux, TERM=st/xterm) does work too...
[14:19]	activelow	it too supports session-timout now, and a single-client connect policy... for security reasons (not perfect yet); anyway, now i can work with it
[14:20]	activelow	no need for tmux anymore, no need for midnight commander... i got everything now within dvtm
[14:20]	activelow	need to practice somewhat, to get accustomed to w3m within dvtm, without mouse
[14:21]	activelow	it's neat, any site can quickly opened within vim, either the html/source, or the rendered text output
[14:25]	TR News	Easily Connect your iPhone with Linux as KDE Connect Arrives on the App Store http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164660#comment-33601
[14:25]	TR Bot	 KDE Connect Arrives on iPhone and iPad For Linux Fans | Tux Machines
[14:27]	activelow	i see there is discussions, for sixel support with Vim ... imagine this
[14:28]	TR News	My open source journey with C from a neurodiverse perspective | https://opensource.com/article/22/5/my-journey-c-neurodiverse-perspective Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux
[14:28]	TR Bot	open source journey with C from a neurodiverse perspective | Opensource.com
[14:30]	TR News	"With getline, programmers can safely avoid one of the common pitfalls of C programming." https://opensource.com/article/22/5/safely-read-user-input-getline
[14:30]	TR Bot	to (safely) read user input with the getline function | Opensource.com
[14:36]	schestowitz-TR	priority/wishlist: stories of people leaving Twitter, esp. those citing good reasons
[14:36]	schestowitz-TR	weakening social control media = curtailing the attacks on democracies 
[14:37]	TR News	[RFC PATCH] ubd: add io_uring based userspace block driver - Ming Lei https://lore.kernel.org/io-uring/20220509092312.254354-1-ming.lei@redhat.com/?s=09 Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux
[14:37]	TR Bot	 [RFC PATCH] ubd: add io_uring based userspace block driver - Ming Lei
[14:38]	TR News	SSO for all: Cryostats new OpenShift login flow | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/05/10/sso-all-cryostats-new-openshift-login-flow Source: ICBM
[14:38]	TR Bot	 SSO for all: Cryostat's new OpenShift login flow | Red Hat Developer
[14:38]	TR News	Whats new in OpenShift Local 2.0 | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/05/10/whats-new-openshift-local-20
[14:38]	TR Bot	 Whats new in OpenShift Local 2.0 | Red Hat Developer
[14:39]	TR News	6 design tips for Java microservices development https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/05/10/6-design-tips-java-microservices-development
[14:39]	TR Bot	 6 design tips for Java microservices development | Red Hat Developer
[14:39]	TR News	Improve the developer experience and process, from local to Kubernetes | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/05/10/improve-developer-experience-and-process-local-kubernetes Source: ICBM
[14:39]	TR Bot	 Improve the developer experience and process, from local to Kubernetes | Red Hat Developer
[14:40]	TR News	Manage cluster resources efficiently with Red Hat OpenShift | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/05/10/manage-cluster-resources-efficiently-red-hat-openshift Source: ICBM
[14:40]	TR Bot	 Manage cluster resources efficiently with Red Hat OpenShift | Red Hat Developer
[14:41]	TR News	ICBM is twisting its fingers in the buzzwords salad again https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/5/agile-6-things-you-can-do-now
[14:41]	TR Bot	 6 things you can do with agile right now | The Enterprisers Project
[14:43]	TR News	KDE Plasma 5.25 Coming Soon http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164074#comment-33602
[14:43]	TR Bot	 KDE Plasma 5.25 Plans for Dynamic Accent Colour Based on Wallpaper | Tux Machines
[14:44]	TR News	D-bus fixed in Easy Bookworm https://bkhome.org/news/202205/d-bus-fixed-in-easy-bookworm.html not systemdeutschland
[14:44]	TR Bot	 D-bus fixed in Easy Bookworm
[14:46]	TR News	Company that once again turned its back on us and became proprietary is trying to lecture us on "Total Cost of Ownership of Open-Source Software" (with a dash!) https://www.qt.io/blog/is-open-source-really-free
[14:46]	TR Bot	 Is Open Source Really Free? A Guide to Total Cost of Ownership of Open-Source Software
[14:47]	TR News	Create a beautiful documentation website in mins with Docusaurus https://medevel.com/docusaurus/
[14:47]	TR Bot	 Create a beautiful documentation website in mins with Docusaurus
[14:47]	TR News	"Meilisearch is a powerful, fast, open-source, easy to use and deploy search engine. Both searching and indexing are highly customizable. Features such as typo-tolerance, filters, and synonyms are provided out-of-the-box." https://medevel.com/meilisearch/
[14:47]	TR Bot	 Meilisearch is a blazing fast open-source search engine
[14:48]	TR News	FSFE calls for digital sustainability in the telecom sector https://fsfe.org/news/2022/news-20220510-01.en.html fix your name first, FSFE http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/fsf-fsfe-dispute/
[14:48]	TR Bot	 FSFE calls for digital sustainability in the telecom sector - FSFE
[14:48]	TR Bot	 Leak: FSF/FSFE Trademark Dispute (FSF Demanding That FSFE Should Change the Organisations Name) | Techrights
[14:49]	TR News	"This is most of it. Some bits are missing and they will be added later." https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/16328
[14:49]	TR Bot	 amd: add gfx11 support (!16328) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab
[14:50]	TR News	BMs lack of resistance if not promotion of Microsoft means that one should quit expecting the company's leaders to understand us; all they understand is money, which also means planned obsolescence http://techrights.org/2022/05/10/meme-ibm-does-not-want-to-think-anymore/
[14:50]	TR Bot	 [Meme] IBM Does Not Want to THINK Anymore | Techrights
[14:50]	TR News	IBM is not interested in Free software and under IBM the company formerly known as Red Hat does not have a positive vision (a lot of the technical staff has already left) http://techrights.org/2022/05/10/clown-instead-of-free-software/
[14:50]	TR Bot	 IBM/Red Hat Promoting Microsoft Surveillance and Proprietary Software Instead of Freedom-Centric, Self-Hosted, Privacy-Respecting, and Real GNU/Linux Servers | Techrights
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[14:52]	TR News	"All in all my computer science education is the equivalent of two pretty solid semesters of foundations." Nowadays they don't teach CS, they train for GAFAM and outsourcing gopher://gopher.black:70/1/phlog/20220202-computer-science
[14:53]	TR News	"Today I saw a back link to my Gemini capsule from Gophersphere. It somehow natural, but we don't have a proper instrumentation to detect that. ;-)" gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi
[14:54]	TR News	"On one hand I agree that this can be horrible, and it's one thing that really put me off C++. On another, a form of overloading is also a feature of Haskell, and in that form I find it entirely non-horrible." gemini://gemini.thegonz.net/glog/210722-spooklessTypeclasses.gmi
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[15:00]	TR News	"Assuming that advertising revenue is a reasonable proxy for attention, it turns out that humans like pictures more than text, and moving pictures most of all; so it has gone on the Internet. Once Facebook introduced the news feed the company quickly figured out that photos drove much more engagement" gemini://gemlog.blue/users/futagoza/1620224219.gmi
[15:01]	TR News	"I make no claim to being a Linux/Debian/Ubuntu/Pop_OS! power user. I enjoy this family of OSes and prefer them to everything else known to humans, but the family has its drawbacks. Since updating to latest Pop_OS! 20.10 packages, I've tried changing permissions and running the Lagrange AppImage" gemini://gemlog.blue/users/futagoza/1620688323.gmi
[15:02]	TR News	"The main problem in Sweden hasn't been the rejection of a lockdown, it's not protecting the elderly care well enough. But this is what happens when there are barely any educated people within it. Compared to Norway for example that have a mandatory 3 year nursing education to be working within the elderly care." gemini://gmi.noulin.net/mobileNews/6671.gmi
[15:04]	TR News	Announcing full support for new Red Hat Enterprise Linux image builder service https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/announcing-full-support-new-red-hat-enterprise-linux-image-builder-service Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux
[15:04]	TR Bot	 Announcing full support for new Red Hat Enterprise Linux image builder service
[15:04]	TR News	ICBM upselling to CentOS users today https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/05/10/migrate-rhel-developer-teams-subscription
[15:04]	TR Bot	 Access RHEL with a Developer for Teams subscription | Red Hat Developer
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[15:05]	TR News	Why does Red Hat 'spill over' SOOOO many press releases and 'articles' today. Distracting from something? Don't know, just asking aloud...
[15:06]	TR News	"enthusiasm, commitment and dedication to their role and industry"...? No, enthusiasm, commitment and dedication to the master, ICBM https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/announcing-2022-red-hat-certified-professional-year-neil-dsouza
[15:06]	TR Bot	 Announcing the 2022 Red Hat Certified Professional of the Year, Neil DSouza
[15:07]	TR News	ICBM: 4 buzzword in an EIGHT-word headline https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/automation-app-centric-hybrid-cloud-world
[15:07]	TR Bot	 Automation in an app-centric, hybrid cloud world
[15:09]	TR News	"Are your edge computing systems secure? A simple question with a potentially complicated answer." EDDDDGE.... they just use fancy words for client side https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/managing-red-hat-enterprise-linux-edge
[15:09]	TR Bot	 Managing Red Hat Enterprise Linux at the edge
[15:09]	TR News	"Tags:Edge Computing" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-standard-red-hat-vehicle-operating-system-modern-and-future-vehicles
[15:09]	TR Bot	 The new standard: Red Hat In-Vehicle Operating System in modern and future vehicles
[15:10]	TR News	Here come the paid-for puff pieces of ICBM https://www.forbes.com/sites/samabuelsamid/2022/05/10/red-hat-to-provide-linux-base-for-gms-ultifi-platform/
[15:10]	TR Bot	 Red Hat To Provide Linux Base For GM's Ultifi Platform
[15:10]	TR News	Red Hat Summit fluff https://venturebeat.com/2022/05/10/red-hat-enterprise-linux-9/
[15:10]	TR Bot	Hat Enterprise Linux 9 offers new solution to verify the integrity of OSs | VentureBeat
[15:11]	TR News	Spamnil et al help "Red Hat" promote Microsoft today. Links omitted.
[15:13]	TR News	Red Hat's original people (early geeks, not only founders) treated the company like parents, ICBM treats the company like a pimp ($)
[15:17]	TR News	So-called 'supply chain' (NSA OK?) https://www.intelligentcio.com/north-america/2022/05/10/openssf-announces-15-new-members-to-further-strengthen-open-source-software-supply-chain-security/ see http://techrights.org/2020/10/30/openssf-microsoft/
[15:17]	TR Bot	 OpenSSF announces 15 new members to further strengthen open source software supply chain security - Intelligent CIO North America
[15:17]	TR Bot	 With Microsoft in Charge, OpenSSF Seems More Like Its About Back Doors Not Real Security Inside the Linux Foundation | Techrights
[15:18]	TR News	IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164680
[15:18]	TR Bot	 IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
[15:18]	TR News	"I'm quickly learning that the secret to vintage hi-fi is to clean everything with servisol super 10 before you start." gemini://caolan.uk/micro.gmi
[15:19]	TR News	Fedora Linux 36 Is Here with GNOME 42, Linux Kernel 5.17, and Wayland for NVIDIA Users Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164681
[15:19]	TR Bot	 Fedora Linux 36 Is Here with GNOME 42, Linux Kernel 5.17, and Wayland for NVIDIA Users | Tux Machines
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[15:23]	TR News	Twitter WILL NOT support free speech. Stop believe a CHRONIC liar. MusKSA (it's shared ownership with people who chop down journalists to pieces and cook them!) will manipulate Twitter for PERSONAL GAIN. QUIT NOW. https://etbe.coker.com.au/2022/05/10/elon-free-speech/
[15:23]	TR Bot	 Elon and Free Speech etbe - Russell Coker
[15:26]	TR News	#PrivacyofthePeople: Random phone checks by the Police https://internetfreedom.in/privacyofthepeople-phone-checking/ Source: internetfreedom
[15:26]	TR Bot	 #PrivacyofthePeople: Random phone checks by the Police
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[15:28]	TR News	"A tea made up from the parts of different teas." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-05-10-the-protean-tea.gmi
[15:29]	TR News	Cosmos Tweaks gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-05_cosmos-tweaks.gmi "It's been a while since I last made changes to Cosmos. Over the past couple of months I've been noticing some issues that need improvement."
[15:29]	TR News	Raspberry Pi CM4 Cluster Running Kubernetes - Turing Pi 2 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164682
[15:29]	TR Bot	 Raspberry Pi CM4 Cluster Running Kubernetes - Turing Pi 2 | Tux Machines
[15:29]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164683
[15:29]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[15:45]	XRevan86	https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/wireplumber/-/releases/0.4.10
[15:45]	TR Bot	 0.4.10 PipeWire / wireplumber GitLab
[15:49]	MinceR	https://surrounder.nl/halffull.jpg
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[16:31]	TR News	Links 10/05/2022: Fedora Linux 36 Released | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/10/fedora-linux-36/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/10/fedora-linux-36/
[16:31]	TR Bot	 Links 10/05/2022: Fedora Linux 36 Released | Techrights
[16:31]	TR News	Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164685
[16:31]	TR Bot	 Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[16:32]	TR News	Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164685
[16:32]	TR News	Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164684
[16:32]	TR Bot	 Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[16:32]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164686
[16:32]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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[16:50]	TR News	COVID-19 in the UK: Going Dark, Hiding the Problem Instead of Solving It http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/05/10/hiding-covid/
[16:50]	TR Bot	Blog Archive COVID-19 in the UK: Going Dark, Hiding the Problem Instead of Solving It
[16:57]	TR News	Added: "NHS/Tories: Maybe if we stop publish data, then people will stop blasting our fatally stupid policy." http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/05/10/hiding-covid/
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[16:59]	activelow	neat, it is possible to wrap a tmux-session into dvtm, including ones connected to with ssh
[16:59]	activelow	and dvtm is only 47KiB in size (dynamically linked, though dependencies are minimal, ncurses)
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[17:01]	activelow	up until recently i considered tmux a leightweight application, however, tmux is 1600KiB, ~30x the size of dvtm
[17:07]	TR News	Top 10 Open Source Bug and Issue Tracking Tools for Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164687
[17:07]	TR Bot	 Top 10 Open Source Bug and Issue Tracking Tools for Linux | Tux Machines
[17:09]	TR News	Multi-clown nonsense with "Linux" thrown in there for good measure https://finance.yahoo.com/news/zerto-extends-leadership-ransomware-resilience-120000253.html Clown computing means security breach, by intention
[17:09]	TR Bot	 Zerto Extends Leadership in Ransomware Resilience by Bringing New Recovery Capabilities in a Multi-Cloud World
[17:10]	TR News	When (not) to use the syslog-ng disk-buffer - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/when-not-to-use-the-syslog-ng-disk-buffer Source: syslog-ng
[17:10]	TR Bot	(not) to use the syslog-ng disk-buffer - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community
[17:10]	TR News	Arduino Portenta X8 (with Linux!) and Max Carrier redefine whats possible https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/05/10/the-new-portenta-x8-with-linux-and-max-carrier-redefine-whats-possible/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking
[17:10]	TR Bot	 Arduino Portenta X8 (with Linux!) and Max Carrier redefine whats possible
[17:11]	TR News	Czech translation of LibreOffice Getting Started Guide 7.3 https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/05/10/czech-translation-of-libreoffice-getting-started-guide-7-3/
[17:11]	TR Bot	 Czech translation of LibreOffice Getting Started Guide 7.3 - The Document Foundation Blog
[17:12]	TR News	Mini keyboards launched with ESP32-C3 or Raspberry Pi RP2040 MCU - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/05/10/mini-keyboards-launched-with-esp32-c3-or-raspberry-pi-rp2040-mcu/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware
[17:12]	TR Bot	 Mini keyboards launched with ESP32-C3 or Raspberry Pi RP2040 MCU - CNX Software
[17:14]	TR News	50% of the articles in PHORONIX today are about AMD, a company with 15k workers (Intel is almost 120k). What PHORONIX does not tell you: it's SPONSORED by AMD http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/
[17:14]	TR Bot	 When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights
[17:14]	schestowitz-TR	it's like social control media
[17:14]	schestowitz-TR	things ar enot quite how they seem on the surface
[17:14]	schestowitz-TR	you need to look below (apropos covid data)
[17:15]	Techrights-sec	it'd be much less problematic, though not ideal, if michael were to remind
[17:15]	Techrights-sec	people of the connection now to AMD
[17:17]	schestowitz-TR	sometimes he even does AMD job ads as articles
[17:17]	schestowitz-TR	even for just one single role
[17:17]	schestowitz-TR	in a company of that size
[17:17]	schestowitz-TR	that's like those spammy patent NOISE sites
[17:17]	schestowitz-TR	where they tell you some low-level person moved from firm A to firm B
[17:17]	schestowitz-TR	and make it seem like "news", complete with photo, portfolio, and promotional words
[17:17]	schestowitz-TR	affirming people's choice os that supposedly impoirtant person and firm
[17:18]	TR News	Security theatres https://dwaves.de/2022/05/10/cyber-it-security-news-dkb-phishing-fake-nft-mail-and-sms-software-minimalism-is-data-protection-is-privacy-is-key-36-of-android-apps-build-with-yandex-sdk/
[17:18]	TR Bot	IT-Security of Banks is shit say the banks themselves in 2020 DKB phishing fake NFT-mail AND sms software minimalism is data protection is privacy is key (36% of Android Apps build with Yandex SDK?) | dwaves.de
[17:19]	TR News	Openwashing https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiehailstone/2022/05/10/wwf-launches-open-source-app-to-make-food-supply-chains-more-transparent/?sh=c64bea96258c
[17:19]	TR Bot	 WWF Launches Open-Source App To Make Food Supply Chains More Transparent
[17:31]	activelow	skimming https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MIPS-New-RISC-V-May-2022
[17:31]	TR Bot	Claims "Best-In-Class Performance" With New RISC-V eVocore CPUs - Phoronix
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[17:32]	activelow	"best-in-class" performance, with gnu (c++) compiler or clang... no thanks, not aware of any other
[17:35]	activelow	then some some Fedora marketing... not aware of any "stable and reliable" modern distribution as he claims it was
[17:36]	activelow	with glorious GNOME42, how much?... dvtm is 47KiB in size... 
[17:40]	chicksahoy	Fedora 36 just came out and its amazing :)
[17:41]	activelow	did GNOME42 vte stabilize sixel support for gnome-terminal now? probably not.
[17:41]	activelow	i'll not wait any longer, and kick out X11 soon, no more libX11, not worth the effort anymore, GTK is gone already.
[17:42]	activelow	there is one issue remaining, i have to keep x11 for, which is VT-switching with mplayer/sdl on framebuffer console does grab framebuffer device exclusively, so i can't vt-switch yet
[17:43]	activelow	which is strange, because libsdl1+fbcon does support vt-switching, flawless with some other test case 
[17:44]	activelow	remarkable, because libdrm is _not_ required for this... and DRM cannot be removed from kernel without loosing almost all gpu drivers
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[17:59]	MinceR	(cat) https://ircz.de/p/22050733
[17:59]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/yz3wqpo4zux81.jpg created on 2022-05-07 13:17:27.382375
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[18:18]	TR News	Peak AMD | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/05/10/sponsored-by-amd/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/10/sponsored-by-amd/
[18:18]	TR Bot	 Peak AMD | Techrights
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[18:22]	TR News	"A new year is here and a new reading goal is set. I'm sticking with my goal of 100 books like the last few years." gopher://gopher.black:70/1/phlog/20220101-cheating-at-my-reading-goal
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[18:23]	TR News	"My battle then was against the big bookseller who came in and killed so many beloved tiny bookshops. Amazon was the scrappy alternative in my mind, and a means of revenge." gopher://gopher.black:70/1/phlog/20220306-buying-books
[18:24]	TR News	Snow Leopard a Day gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D227.jpg
[18:25]	TR News	"So I left and went to a datacenter for a few months to move patch cables around for some Non Disclosure Agreements." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/933
[18:30]	MinceR	(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EupiiokXyU
[18:30]	TR Bot	https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=4EupiiokXyU
[18:30]	TR Bot	timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=4EupiiokXyU )
[18:35]	activelow	the baphometos destop environment got a name now too: dmux, derviced from dvtm-mux, which is bundled into an ebuild with a clean patchset
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[18:36]	TR News	"Ebba Busch is boycotting the Swedish radio because in their Arabic, Somali, and Kurdish transmissions they translated her desire to shoot islamists as her wanting to shoot muslims." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/ebba-radio
[18:37]	DaemonFC	I'm happy with Fedora 36.
[18:38]	MinceR	i loathe fedora
[18:38]	DaemonFC	I transplanted my games folder from Wine in Debian to Wine in Fedora.
[18:38]	DaemonFC	Everything is working in vanilla Wine in Fedora, and there was a very nice fps boost as well.
[18:38]	MinceR	it combines one of the world's worst operating systems with one of the world's worst package managers
[18:38]	DaemonFC	The version of Wine in Fedora seems to actually implement XAUDIO2 properly.
[18:38]	MinceR	and sprinkles it with weird bugs
[18:39]	DaemonFC	RPM isn't that bad.
[18:39]	MinceR	like the screensaver randomly crashing and being replaced with some gnome screen locker nobody asked for
[18:39]	MinceR	yum is unreliable
[18:39]	TR News	"There is a great gem of advice in StackSmith wrote that I don't want to get lost in all this discussion about software size and the "philosophy" of CLI programs from the 1970s." gemini://gemi.dev/gemlog/2022-05-10-say-thankyou.gmi
[18:39]	MinceR	it easily maneuvers itself into a state where it will never work again
[18:39]	DaemonFC	GNOME doesn't support xscreensaver.
[18:39]	MinceR	i wasn't running gnome.
[18:39]	MinceR	or at least i _thought_ i wasn't running gnome.
[18:40]	MinceR	but with ibm/deadrat's extremely shit OS, you never really know what you're running
[18:40]	TR News	"Today I'm releasing Gemipedia, a Gemini interface to Wikipedia focused on an awesome reading experience." gemini://gemi.dev/gemlog/2022-05-10-launching-gemipedia.gmi
[18:40]	MinceR	and you don't really get a choice
[18:40]	DaemonFC	If you have MATE or Xfce on most distributions, you have a lot of GNOME in there as well.
[18:40]	DaemonFC	The Fedora 36 version of KDE is actually quite nice.
[18:40]	MinceR	oh, i'm sure
[18:40]	MinceR	it might even have a setting or two left for you to configure
[18:40]	DaemonFC	They excised everything Kevin Kofler had been "komplaining" about for years.
[18:40]	DaemonFC	Of course, they had gotten rid of Kofler too.
[18:40]	MinceR	and allegedly plasma doesn't crash and forget all its settings _that_ often anymore
[18:41]	TR News	"I think I was demoralized by the lack of interest in lists.flounder.online, which I worked for a really long time on. Not interest from here, but from the wider tech community. No one seems bullish on email" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi
[18:41]	DaemonFC	No, actually the transition to Wayland has fixed a lot of kwin problems that just went on for years.
[18:41]	MinceR	then again, if they went full crApple and removed all ability for the user to configure anything, then plasma forgetting all its settings wouldn't be an issue anymore
[18:41]	DaemonFC	It even automatically scales correctly to my Yoga 900-ISK2's UHD display.
[18:41]	MinceR	maybe that's why they're doing it
[18:41]	DaemonFC	Which kwin on X doesn't do.
[18:42]	DaemonFC	I have the Fedora Kinoite version on the other laptop.
[18:42]	DaemonFC	You basically use rpm-ostree and flatpaks.
[18:42]	MinceR	sounds fun
[18:42]	DaemonFC	I haven't yet come across anything I couldn't do on normal Fedora.
[18:42]	MinceR	more "modern" garbage and systemd bullshit, with a package manager which allegedly sandboxes applications, but actually doesn't
[18:43]	DaemonFC	Yeah, it's a spare laptop so I figured learn how to manage an OS on an immutable file system, why not?
[18:43]	DaemonFC	It's not like if I run into a disaster it'll be important.
[18:43]	MinceR	i had an archos pda with an immutable file system long ago
[18:43]	MinceR	that was enough of immutable file systems for me for a lifetime
[18:43]	DaemonFC	MinceR, The anti-flatpak site was written in the same style as the anti-Linux site on GitHub.
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[18:43]	DaemonFC	And also without the author signing either site.
[18:44]	MinceR	who cares
[18:44]	MinceR	Linux is going away anyway
[18:44]	DaemonFC	Well, I do.
[18:44]	MinceR	they're turning it into another windows
[18:44]	DaemonFC	It's obviously a Microsoft troll or someone who LIKES Microsoft.
[18:44]	MinceR	because nobody wants to use windows
[18:44]	DaemonFC	Those are the scariest people of all.
[18:44]	DaemonFC	I at least understand people who like macOS if they're not going to roll up their sleeves a little and get cracking on a better operating system.
[18:45]	MinceR	so once it becomes obvious to most people what MICROS~1 and ibm/deadrat turned what was GNU/Linux into, the masses will migrate once again
[18:45]	DaemonFC	Windows is the absolute low anchor for what to expect out of an OS.
[18:45]	MinceR	i can't determine whether windows or macOS is worse
[18:45]	MinceR	they're competing hard at being the worst
[18:45]	DaemonFC	It's not only malicious (which Apple is too), but it's horrifically bloated and full of bugs and lulz.
[18:45]	MinceR	they're both making steps toward locking out third-party applications
[18:46]	MinceR	and the "immutable filesystem" bullshit is also a move toward that
[18:46]	DaemonFC	I don't like horrifically bloated programs. And you can argue all day about what bloat means, but standing next to GNOME or KDE on GNU/Linux, Windows is definitely bloated.
[18:47]	DaemonFC	Those $199 Windows laptops that the government is paying half of for poor people are like Chris Farley's old sketch, fat guy in a little jacket.
[18:47]	MinceR	standing next to a free Unix system, gnome or kde on systemd/Linux is horrifically bloated
[18:47]	DaemonFC	You can still install and use a GNU/Linux system on a mid to late 2000s PC with the software up to date.
[18:47]	DaemonFC	You kind of have to lower your expectations and cut the OS to fit, but it does at least still work.
[18:47]	DaemonFC	No dice on the Windows-side.
[18:48]	DaemonFC	If it's not at least 2018, it won't be "supported" by Windows 11, and a lot of stuff that didn't _ship_ with Windows 11 won't run it properly or be guaranteed to get updates if you use it.
[18:48]	DaemonFC	So I mean, on that one point alone, it's best to just stay away.
[18:49]	DaemonFC	Now, my dad says he uses Windows 11 on one of his systems that came with it and he says he likes it better than Windows 10.
[18:49]	DaemonFC	I said, it's not saying much.
[18:49]	DaemonFC	It's like saying you upgraded from a Yugo to a GEO Metro.
[18:50]	DaemonFC	But even that's not giving Microsoft credit.
[18:50]	chicksahoy	DaemonFC: im quite happy with Fedora 36 Workstation (Gnome 42)
[18:50]	DaemonFC	The Metro had one thing going for it, which is more than Windows does.
[18:50]	DaemonFC	It was slow, it was poorly built, but it was good on gas.
[18:50]	MinceR	is the geo metro so much worse than the suzuki swift/cultus on which it is based? :>
[18:50]	MinceR	sounds like it is
[18:50]	DaemonFC	Well, there's still people out there looking for Metros and parts.
[18:51]	DaemonFC	They cannibalize old Metros to keep theirs running if they can't find a suitable replacement part.
[18:51]	DaemonFC	And the reason why is simple.
[18:51]	DaemonFC	It was a car from the 90s that was simply designed that got over 40 mpg in the city and over 50 on the highway.
[18:51]	DaemonFC	You _could_ do that in the 90s.
[18:51]	DaemonFC	You did not need all this Hybrid crap.
[18:52]	DaemonFC	The Hybrid crap costs so much to maintain that the car is basically a write-off after 9 or 10 years.
[18:52]	DaemonFC	All you need to do to keep a Metro going is find a halfway decent mechanic and cheap parts.
[18:52]	MinceR	afaict they didn't even put GM engines in Metros
[18:52]	DaemonFC	So that's why people still want them.
[18:53]	MinceR	it was based on some GM "platform" though, so i dunno
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[18:55]	activelow	gnome is there even when you think it isn't... glib
[18:56]	MinceR	glib is more gtk than gnome
[18:56]	MinceR	and both glib and gtk have been used fine independently of gnome
[18:56]	MinceR	before gtk was crippled for gnome's sake
[18:56]	activelow	gnome is the marketing label for the bundle of things they crammed together
[18:56]	MinceR	gtk used to be the gimp toolkit
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[18:57]	DaemonFC	MinceR, My mechanic was able to locate a replacement fuse box for the Impala from a 2005 Impala that was always registered in Texas. He says there's no corrosion on it. I was laughing about how horrible the Impala is and it still works.
[18:57]	activelow	on gentoo: equery depends dev-libs/glib ... remove it and see what remains without it, gnome
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[18:58]	DaemonFC	I told mom "Back in 2005 I was sitting in the Impala. You left the engine running while you ran back into the house for something and it was out there going 'scrunchee scrunchee scrunchee!' and I said, 'Mom, what is that horrible noise?' and you said, 'Eh, it just does that.'."
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[18:59]	DaemonFC	"20 years later I got all of the engine issues and suspension clunking and all of that under control, and you'll be at a light and it'll say 'scrunchee! scrunchee!' every once in a while. Everything else on the car has failed and been replaced and whatever is doing that is still in there, working.".
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[18:59]	DaemonFC	She said it's been doing it since she bought it in 2003.
● May 10
[19:00]	DaemonFC	MinceR, She says she's never buying a GM car again.
[19:00]	DaemonFC	I said I don't blame her with what they have out now.
[19:00]	MinceR	:>
[19:00]	DaemonFC	They try to compete with the Toyota RAV4 with the Chevy Equinox.
[19:00]	DaemonFC	But the things are made in Mexico and twice as likely to have some sort of catastrophic failure at any point.
[19:00]	DaemonFC	And they're basically the same price.
[19:01]	DaemonFC	She gets a "GM family discount" as long as my grandmother is alive, but $500 off a $30,000 car isn't really all that much 
[19:01]	DaemonFC	I can at least see why she bought the 2003 Impala, but nothing since then.
[19:01]	MinceR	http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/unwearied-effort-however-powder.jpg   ( https://www.engrish.com/2021/02/confucius-say-eat-to-live-not-live-to-eat/ )
[19:01]	TR Bot	 Confucius say eat to live, not live to eat.
[19:01]	DaemonFC	The 2003 was actually a pretty good deal.
[19:02]	DaemonFC	The dealer gave her a $2,700 rebate on it from GM because a driver's education course used it for about 1,200 miles or so.
[19:02]	DaemonFC	And the "GM family discount" before the bankruptcy was higher.
[19:03]	DaemonFC	So she got like $3,700 off of it. And cars weren't ridiculously overpriced back then, so the $3,700 was substantial.
[19:03]	DaemonFC	A new Impala with all the options might have had an MSRP of like $26,500 or something.
[19:04]	DaemonFC	The last year they made them, 2020, they started at $50,000, and if you wanted the options package it added almost $10,000 more.
[19:05]	DaemonFC	I mean, schestowitz-TR tries to grab my goat about the Buick, but I bought the car and got it all fixed up for less than the taxes on a new car.
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[19:32]	MinceR	http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/hand-ruined-hamburger.jpg   ( https://www.engrish.com/2021/02/you-had-one-job/ )
[19:32]	TR Bot	 You had one job
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[19:32]	TR Bot	 Peak AMD | Techrights
[19:40]	psydruid	Can I haz AMD Burger?
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[19:48]	activelow	it is amusing, a hackjob of a weekend, to configure/patch dvtm, yields a terminal-multiplexer/window-manager/session-manager of ~47KiB size, and i can remove x11 and gnome entirely
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[19:49]	DaemonFC	They found another dead body in Lake Mead.
[19:49]	DaemonFC	It was easier to dump a body in the 70s. Lake Mead had water in it and most of the cars back then made the Crown Victoria look like a subcompact.
[19:49]	activelow	nnn integrates nicely too with it, to create a dual-pane layout for a filsystem navigator, so midnight commander is wiped too with another 78KiB
[19:50]	DaemonFC	Nobody I know who has had one VW has ever bought another VW.
[19:50]	DaemonFC	They bought them brand new off the lot and right away the car was already breaking down more often than my 20 year old 300,000 mile Impala.
[19:51]	MinceR	i think people do that in hungary
[19:51]	DaemonFC	They're just the most poorly made car ever.
[19:51]	MinceR	these idiots love overpriced german crap
[19:51]	DaemonFC	I don't know what they're doing where the engine blows up at 60,000 miles.
[19:52]	DaemonFC	They had to call the fire department to put out my mom's new VW Rabbit when the engine caught fire in Illinois and stranded her.
[19:52]	activelow	there is a history line again, back to 1980, when "graphical workstations" emerged
[19:52]	activelow	which is a misnomer, a marketing gag, prevailed 40 years
[19:53]	activelow	because, predating this, _real_ workstation got it already, graphics capabilities
[19:53]	DaemonFC	They make fun of us for using gaskets that last longer than their cars.
[19:53]	DaemonFC	A gasket starts leaking, you can just replace the gasket that's leaking.
[19:53]	DaemonFC	No big deal.
[19:54]	DaemonFC	Drop the pan, replace the gasket.
[19:54]	DaemonFC	The car goes on and on.
[19:54]	activelow	besides "software freedom" issues, GNU/FSF followed along the trends of the industry, and either innovated and/or replicated the typical consumerist stuff
[19:54]	activelow	"GNU is not Unix", so true
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[19:55]	DaemonFC	The Germans say they have lifetime transmission fluid that you don't need to service.
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[19:55]	DaemonFC	What they mean is not that they planned on 300,000 miles of dealing with wear metals and heat breaking down the fluid.
[19:56]	DaemonFC	They just mean there's no need to service it when the car won't last as long as the transmission fluid, and they're glad they could clarify that for you.
[19:56]	DaemonFC	MinceR, ^
[19:57]	MinceR	not only the germans say that
[19:57]	MinceR	almost everyone says that, afaict
[19:57]	TR News	Fedora release: Original messages and more early coverage http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164681#comment-33604
[19:57]	TR Bot	 Fedora Linux 36 Is Here with GNOME 42, Linux Kernel 5.17, and Wayland for NVIDIA Users | Tux Machines
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[20:01]	activelow	the tragedy of modern technology trends... resources are available at a huge surplus
[20:01]	activelow	that's why, noone noticed, for example, "midnight commander" plus glib are 2MiB in size... that's _huge_
[20:02]	activelow	excessive, nnn is 78KiB; and it integrates with dvtm and any desired layout
[20:03]	activelow	meaning, even software i considered moderate and efficient until recently, can be replaced with better one requiring less than 10% of LoC
[20:04]	activelow	and the reason, why this isn't appealing, isn't caused by limitations due to their efficience, quit the contrary... instead it is lack of maintenance and adoption of such real *nix type software components
[20:05]	activelow	GNU/FSF can't endorse quality software such as dvtm, because it crushes their own business model surrounding GNOME
[20:06]	activelow	midnight commander too, which FSF granted an award for
[20:06]	MinceR	"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?"
[20:07]	activelow	imagine this, dvtm with 47KiB competes with, how many, several hundred MiB a typical GNOME needs
[20:08]	activelow	btw. dvtm is more powerful and flexible than i3 window manager
[20:08]	activelow	i think dvtm, yaft, libsixel and all this, it's MIT licensed parts
[20:09]	activelow	rms is an mit affiliate iirc
[20:10]	activelow	would be curious, what the political and economical reasoning behind this is, to promote the typical GNU/FSF/GNOME stuff instead
[20:10]	MinceR	not a high bar
[20:10]	MinceR	try fvwm :>
[20:11]	activelow	i'll remove X11, entirely... iirc X11 too was pushed by DEC, not entirely sure
[20:11]	MinceR	pretty sure it came from Project Athena of the MIT
[20:11]	activelow	X11 was kneejerk, to *nix philosophy
[20:12]	TR News	5 Tools to Easily Create a Custom Linux Distro Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164688
[20:12]	TR Bot	 5 Tools to Easily Create a Custom Linux Distro | Tux Machines
[20:12]	MinceR	DEC pushed that horrible abomination known as VMS
[20:12]	TR News	In Memory of Shubhra Kar Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164689
[20:12]	TR Bot	 In Memory of Shubhra Kar | Tux Machines
[20:12]	activelow	X11 already was a type of systemd to window management and terminal multiplexing, 1980s already
[20:12]	MinceR	later they renamed it to "OpenVMS" hoping that it would trick people to believe it was open in some sense
[20:13]	MinceR	you don't know much about X11, do you?
[20:14]	activelow	know what?
[20:15]	MinceR	things like it being the only windowing system that lets you replace your window manager on the fly
[20:15]	MinceR	not very systemd-like, to put it lightly
[20:15]	MinceR	and not very wayland-like either
[20:15]	activelow	i did treat X11 some weeks ago, to prevent systemd/evdev sneaking into, some other patch to avoid root privileges for Xorg
[20:16]	TR News	The Razer Lambda Tensorbook deep learning laptop is a milestone in pure Linux power Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164690
[20:16]	TR Bot	 The Razer Lambda Tensorbook deep learning laptop is a milestone in pure Linux power | Tux Machines
[20:17]	activelow	"Project Athena was a joint project of MIT, Digital Equipment Corporation, and IBM"... DEC is defunct, IBM not
[20:17]	MinceR	DEC was bought by Compaq and then Compaq was bought by HP
[20:17]	MinceR	i doubt HP cares about X, though
[20:18]	MinceR	hell, the people who maintain X.org don't seem to care about it, or understand it
[20:18]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164691
[20:18]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[20:18]	activelow	reminder, dvtm is 47KiB in size, and replaces both X11 and GNOME
[20:19]	activelow	although i must admit, ncurses adds some weight, yet this applies to X11/xterm alike
[20:19]	mjg59_	"replaces"
[20:19]	activelow	so, this is really it mainly 47KiB against X11/GNOME
[20:19]	mjg59_	Where's the accessibility support?
[20:19]	activelow	where is the one with X11?
[20:20]	activelow	and text-navigation/screen-readers are available too, unrelated to DVTM
[20:20]	MinceR	wrong question
[20:20]	MinceR	does activelow _need_ accessibility support?
[20:20]	mjg59_	Accessibility is not purely screen readers
[20:20]	activelow	mjg59_: however, open wikipedia inside w3m and imagine how a screen reader "interprets" this gibberish
[20:21]	TR News	Many senior Linux Foundation people died in recent years, mostly for health reasons
[20:21]	mjg59_	Yeah. You need an actual web browser to interpret the semantic content of modern web content
[20:22]	activelow	w3m and lynx are web-browsers, far better ones than any of the typical chrome/webkit/moz
[20:22]	activelow	digging inside dvtm sources, i noticed there seems some graphics/sixel related stuff already, which doesn't work yet, not yet
[20:23]	MinceR	they're locked out of "modern" websites though
[20:23]	TR News	Once again, "Linux" Foundation makes it a REQUIREMENT to create a MICROSOFT account to leave condolences to a deceased LF staffer.
[20:23]	MinceR	the sort that can't render a picture or a paragraph or a link without javascript
[20:23]	MinceR	because it was "designed" by incompetent morons who have never heard of things like the IMG element
[20:24]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164692
[20:24]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[20:24]	MinceR	the sort that makes my laptop sound like it's a jet trying to take off if i open one and let all their scripts run
[20:26]	TR News	At this point "Linux" Foundation fails to "grasp" what's even wrong with Microsoft because Microsoft invaded and took over management positions http://techrights.org/2022/05/09/microsoft-takes-control-lf/
[20:26]	TR Bot	 Evolution at Linux Foundation: Microsoft Attacks, Microsoft Joins, Microsoft Takes Control | Techrights
[20:27]	activelow	one selling point of GNOME/GTK remains: which is GIMP, visual image editing
[20:27]	MinceR	gnome is trying to get rid of it
[20:27]	MinceR	they've tried to kick its widgets out of its own toolkit, the gimp toolkit
[20:28]	activelow	even digged if i could find a motif variant of this, the first version of GIMP relied on motif
[20:28]	MinceR	because the typical crapOS-like bullshit application they're pushing doesn't use them
[20:28]	activelow	and motif can sit on top of framebuffer directly, GTK2 too could yet this doesn't pass acceptance criteria anymore (harfbuzz)
[20:28]	MinceR	all it needs is a city-sized title bar so that it can fit all of its fucking widgets in the title bar
[20:28]	MinceR	and it takes up the rest of the screen with window borders
[20:29]	MinceR	maybe the gimp's sin was trying to put widgets _inside_ windows
[20:30]	activelow	scientific publication doesn't depend on GIMP style wysiwag anyway, vector graphics and plotting (sixel, epson-raw-bitmap) are more important, and i am certain i can implement this
[20:30]	MinceR	how do you edit a photo without "GIMP style wysiwag"?
[20:30]	MinceR	ImageMagick commands from the command line, blindly?
[20:31]	bnchs	fuck GTK's big ass titlebar
[20:31]	MinceR	yeah
[20:31]	activelow	exactly, that's why i am saying Gimp is _the_ gnome app which i am not aware of any alternative existed
[20:31]	MinceR	and fuck their superthick butt-ugly rounded borders too
[20:31]	activelow	except for some very early gimp version 0.5 something, 20 years ago, which used motif instead of GTK/GNOME
[20:31]	bnchs	MinceR, they're intended to take up more screen estate
[20:32]	bnchs	i find myself using the KDE filepicker more than GTK for that reason
[20:32]	bnchs	super thick ass padding for everything
[20:32]	activelow	KDE/QT are c++ - no-go mined territory
[20:33]	activelow	which is another irony with GNOME/GTK, which were intentionally written in C, together with glib
[20:33]	bnchs	it's either C++ and good UI
[20:33]	bnchs	or C and big clunky UI
[20:33]	bnchs	also CSS if you HAVE to
[20:33]	activelow	and then harfbuzz was fisted into GNOME/GTK... and with it c++... epic
[20:34]	MinceR	someone loves gobject :>
[20:34]	bnchs	gtk's API is good though
[20:34]	bnchs	well
[20:34]	activelow	the reason i am not willing to keep X11 is this btw: the suckless terminal (st) depends on fontconfig (not harfbuzz at least)
[20:34]	bnchs	except that god awful JAVA PACKAGE ID
[20:35]	MinceR	if only there were other terminals
[20:35]	activelow	xterm too does need it, truetype/fontconfig... no thanks, and why would i bother with X11 any longer if i haven't got a clean terminal emulator
[20:35]	MinceR	i'm guessing you don't want xft or antialiasing
[20:35]	bnchs	vector fonts are bad
[20:36]	MinceR	afaik there are terminal emulators that support plain old x bitmap fonts
[20:36]	activelow	with the idea being linux-console -> yaft (with sixel support) -> dvtm
[20:36]	bnchs	if you're trying to filter something because it's proprietary or bloated, then ok
[20:36]	activelow	don't ask me yet, how many KiB in size yaft will be, it's another MIT licensed goodie
[20:36]	bnchs	but if it's something like OpenGL, then that's retarded
[20:37]	activelow	bnchs: vector fonts are _not_ bad, they're only not used correctly
[20:37]	MinceR	apparently "correct" vector font usage means replacing c++ with c and gobject :>
[20:38]	activelow	meaning, vector font should be pre-process (ahead of time), instead of, how should i say, realtime rasterization of those with hinting/anti-aliasing
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[20:38]	MinceR	not practical if you have a large character set
[20:38]	TR Bot	 The Web and Social Control Media (Including YouTube and Blogs Like Phoronix) Increasingly Bought and Paid for | Techrights
[20:38]	activelow	it is conceptually falwed by design, because such rasterization is _expensive_, hence it is better to pre-compile vector fonts into bitmap
[20:38]	MinceR	especially if you also have combining characters
[20:39]	MinceR	the memory and disk to keep all those prerendered glyphs is expensive too
[20:39]	bnchs	MinceR, combining characters are hell to render
[20:39]	activelow	anyway, fonconfig together with bitmap is resource hungry, very much... tested this some days ago, hence decided to ditch X11 because fontconfig/harfbuzz creeped deep into it
[20:39]	MinceR	bnchs: yet some languages depend on them
[20:40]	activelow	the last known good terminal emulator _without_ fontconfig was rxvt-2.7 (almost 20years ald), which i hacked back into the tree here
[20:40]	bnchs	MinceR, yes
[20:41]	activelow	even got some ISO8859-1 output with rxvt, yet keyboard input struggled, something is screwed with recent X11 and rxvt-2.7 LANG=ISO8859-1
[20:43]	psydroid2	just cut off one limb at a time and everything will be fine
[20:44]	psydroid2	s/cut/chop/
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[20:47]	activelow	besides dvtm, tinycc is another such "threat" to what GNU/FSF endorse as "free software"
[20:47]	activelow	and i mean, tinycc is lgpl2, so what's wrong with it?
[20:47]	activelow	why did FSG/GNU blow up compilation with 10x memory consumption and compilation time?
[20:50]	bnchs	activelow, a what now?
[20:50]	bnchs	10x memory consumption and compilation time?
[20:50]	bnchs	never had that
[20:50]	activelow	as a rough estimate, compilation time and memory consumption with GCC is 10x worse than tinycc
[20:51]	activelow	and bootstrapping the compiler itself is another... tinycc including it's cross-compilers is done in 1 minute or two, gcc requires several hours to emit it's cross compilers
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● May 10
[21:00]	activelow	although the technical criteria, of "free software" are more important, the escalation at the frontline of marketing, politics and ideology drip some goo on top of it
[21:00]	activelow	if it wasn't sufficiently stinking before
[21:00]	activelow	code of conduct smeared onto
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[21:18]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/news/no-charges-for-mike-tyson-for-punching-airplane-passenger/
[21:18]	TR Bot	 No charges for Mike Tyson for punching airplane passenger | WGN-TV
[21:19]	DaemonFC	MinceR, Most people were too stupid to see how servicing their transmission would save them money in the end.
[21:19]	DaemonFC	Then they ended up buying new transmissions instead.
[21:20]	DaemonFC	Servicing the transmission only needs to be done about every 50,000 miles on average.
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[21:21]	DaemonFC	If you plan to keep the car for a really long time, that was like 4 or 5 times over the life of the car. Most shops charge less than $200 for supplies (fluid, filter, gasket) and labor. A replacement transmission costs about $4,000 on up. So you have your choice of paying $800 or so broken out into four installments to keep the one you have running for the life of the car, or just letting the fluid degrade until it wears out the transmission.
[21:22]	DaemonFC	Jiffy Lube charges as much as doing the job right, but only does half the job.
[21:23]	DaemonFC	They hook it up to a machine that pushes the old fluid out and replaces the fluid, but without cleaning out the pan or replacing the gasket and filter.
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[21:23]	DaemonFC	Eventually the filter will plug up. Some OEMs didn't put a bypass in, and so it will increase the strain on the transmission and the pump that keeps the fluid circulating and it will burn out one or both pretty fast at that point.
[21:24]	DaemonFC	Or it will have a bypass, then you have metal shavings circulating with the fluid, without being strained out by the filter.
[21:24]	DaemonFC	Transmission servicing has pretty much been deleted from all owners manuals, even though nothing has changed about how fast the fluid and filter degrade.
[21:25]	DaemonFC	MinceR, GM moved it to Schedule II severe service on the Equinox at least.
[21:26]	DaemonFC	That's great that your transmission apparently only needs maintained if you're using it as a taxi.
[21:26]	DaemonFC	:)
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[22:02]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/news/after-more-than-20-years-apple-discontinues-ipod/
[22:02]	TR Bot	 After more than 20 years, Apple discontinues iPod | WGN-TV
[22:02]	DaemonFC	I posted a long reply.
[22:02]	DaemonFC	Fact: The iPod was not anything special. It was just an MP3/AAC codec with some storage and a secret proprietary protocol that only iTunes was supposed to be able to use. The fact that it worked at all without iTunes was due to the reverse engineering effort behind the libimobiledevice library, which got them working under GNU/Linux.
[22:02]	DaemonFC	Whenever libimobiledevice reversed the sync protocol, Apple would change it for no reason just to break syncing without iTunes, which was the worst program for the PC ever. The only way to be safe from them was to absolutely never connect the iPod to iTunes and to only sync it with something like Banshee or Rhythmbox.
[22:02]	DaemonFC	Fact: Apple claimed that AAC files sounded better than MP3, but that was only somewhat true at the time. Later MP3 encoders, such as LAME and even FhG's improved past the quality of Apple's AAC encoder. Apple never bothered to even implement MP3 to specification, which is why "podcasts" in MP3 are all Constant Bitrate.
[22:02]	DaemonFC	If you use Variable BItrate MP3s and try to play them on an Apple product, they'll work, but seeking will not behave right. It will just take you to some random part of the file. It does this because Apple ignores the VBRI or XING header and just counts the number of frames and assumes that every frame is the size of the first frame. The people working at Apple are idiots, not engineers, and they make products for idiots.
[22:02]	DaemonFC	Fact: The iPod was massively overpriced. Often selling for 5-6 times as much money as other players, bringing no advantages to the market. In fact, it has very significant downsides, like the sync protocol and the fact that while other players support Ogg Vorbis, Opus, and FLAC, Apple has been stuck in the year 2001 for the duration.
[22:02]	DaemonFC	Fact: The iPod was the greatest facilitator of pirated music in history, but it was Diamond that had to take the lawsuit that made the MP3 player obviously legal. The RIAA tried to declare that MP3 players were illegal because you may pirate music and put it on them.
[22:02]	DaemonFC	This is why chainsaws are illegal. Because you could attack someone with one. Therefore they are illegal. 
[22:02]	DaemonFC	The average iPod user only bought 23 songs, even though they never stored less than 1,000 and usually stored 30,000 or more. Obviously nobody is going to spend $400 on something then only put 23 songs on it.
[22:02]	DaemonFC	Fact: Apple tries to take credit for removing the "FoulPlay" Digital Restriction Malware they used to impose on iTunes music files, but the fact is that many other stores, like Amazon and 7Digital, sold malware-free MP3 files for years before Apple jumped on the bandwagon.
[22:03]	DaemonFC	Fact: The article mentions a guy hired by Apple when his startup was about to collapse, but makes no mention of the fact that Apple's products suck so hard that they would have gone bankrupt in 1997 themselves had Microsoft not bailed them out to claim they had competition, even if it was worse than Windows somehow.
[22:04]	DaemonFC	I added: Today with the iPhones, iPads, and Macs, Apple has a universal backdoor that can change them to do any malicious thing they don't currently do as soon as you connect them to the Internet and install an update. They blackmail users to install the malicious updates by threatening that the computer will stop working at all eventually if you don't.
[22:06]	DaemonFC	Fact: While the iPod is dead, things that are far more corrosive to user freedom live on, and users should reject those too and use GNU/Linux and Free and Open Source Software, and devices which interact with those.
[22:08]	DaemonFC	Some people with a Mac installed an update through the universal backdoor, only to find that Apple deleted their entire local music library, which may have cost them thousands of dollars or many hours of ripping from CDs, or both, and then demanded that they subscribe to Apple Music, which stops working without an Internet connection, or if you don't pay them each month forever.
[22:11]	DaemonFC	MinceR, I removed the battery from my old Sansa.
[22:12]	DaemonFC	Wasn't easy because they soldered it in.
[22:12]	DaemonFC	I ended up managing to replace it and then I updated Rockbox again.
[22:12]	DaemonFC	It plays Opus files and the runtime is barely any different than playing MP3s.
[22:13]	MinceR	10 214749 < activelow> why did FSG/GNU blow up compilation with 10x memory consumption and compilation time?
[22:13]	MinceR	to produce binaries that are faster, and possibly also smaller
[22:14]	MinceR	which is generally seen as desirable when using C or C++
[22:14]	DaemonFC	Yeah, there's an up front cost at compilation time, but you can end up with binaries that work better.
[22:14]	DaemonFC	When you have a build farm like Red Hat does, you can easily eat that up front cost.
[22:15]	DaemonFC	I suppose if your distribution is mostly frozen and just spits out occasional security updates, it wouldn't be so bad either.
[22:17]	DaemonFC	https://9to5mac.com/2022/05/10/2021-macbook-pro-users-complain-about-crackling-and-popping-audio-issues/
[22:17]	TR Bot	MacBook Pro users complain about crackling audio - 9to5Mac
[22:18]	DaemonFC	"Premium" laptop.
[22:18]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, My mechanic called. Said the Buick would be finished by Friday.
[22:19]	DaemonFC	He said no charge for fixing up the cosmetic defects with the paint here and there since they were mixing up paint for it anyway for the fenders and rocker panel and had some left.
[22:20]	TR News	Fedora Linux 36 is finally here and it is much better than Ubuntu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164681#comment-33605
[22:20]	TR Bot	 Fedora Linux 36 Is Here with GNOME 42, Linux Kernel 5.17, and Wayland for NVIDIA Users | Tux Machines
[22:20]	MinceR	"It Just Works!"
[22:22]	schestowitz-TR	VIsta
[22:23]	bnchs	dude the crackling audio is just a feature
[22:23]	TR News	"Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-130-06
[22:23]	TR Bot	 Mitsubishi Electric MELSOFT GT OPC UA | CISA
[22:23]	bnchs	it's making popcorn!!!
[22:23]	MinceR	and samsung will copy it
[22:24]	MinceR	but not before making fun of it in an ad.
[22:24]	TR News	Microsoft's true TCO https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/10/microsoft-releases-security-advisory-azure-data-factory-and-azure
[22:24]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Releases Security Advisory for Azure Data Factory and Azure Synapse Pipelines | CISA
[22:25]	psydroid2	CracklingAudio, the latest framework from Apple
[22:25]	TR News	MIPS Pivots to RISC-V with Best-In-Class Performance and Scalability https://www.mips.com/news/mips-pivots-to-risc-v-with-best-in-class-performance-and-scalability/
[22:25]	TR Bot	Pivots to RISC-V with Best-In-Class Performance and Scalability MIPS
[22:26]	TR News	AstroTurfers or shills on the Web are a mostly unspoken-about pandemic of growing proportions; we use Phoronix as an example of influenced (as in influencer) coverage http://techrights.org/2022/05/10/influencers-and-warped-coverage/
[22:26]	TR Bot	 The Web and Social Control Media (Including YouTube and Blogs Like Phoronix) Increasingly Bought and Paid for | Techrights
[22:27]	DaemonFC	I'm glad I got that desk fan to make the T-Mobile piece of shit stop overheating. I got rid of T-Mobile a few weeks later, but it's hot today and this little thing moves a lot of air.
[22:27]	DaemonFC	And it costs almost nothing to run a fan.
[22:28]	DaemonFC	28 watts to run a small fan, 44 watts to run a big one.
[22:28]	TR News	"As predicted, RHEL9 was released today.. as was RHEL 8.6 and Fedora 36. Big release day. Here's a marketing video on the new release. I'm sure more videos, some with actual technical content, will follow." http://www.montanalinux.org/rhel-9-released-20220510.html
[22:28]	TR Bot	RHEL 9 released | www.montanalinux.org
[22:28]	DaemonFC	1,500 watts to turn on the air conditioner.
[22:29]	MinceR	10 232715 < DaemonFC> And it costs almost nothing to run a fan.
[22:29]	MinceR	and it accomplishes almost nothing, too!
[22:29]	DaemonFC	"I'm an air conditioner from 1972. Your landlord never replaced me because he doesn't pay the energy bill, but I'm going to eat you alive!"
[22:29]	TR News	Red Hat CEO Paul Cormier: The new normal for IT starts with Free Software https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/new-normal-it-starts-open-source
[22:29]	TR Bot	 The new normal for IT starts with open source
[22:30]	TR News	"Open source can fan the sparks of potential around the world, unlike any system that has ever existed. It solves two fundamental problems that limit innovation:..." https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/fueling-spark-innovation
[22:30]	TR Bot	 Fueling the spark of innovation
[22:31]	DaemonFC	MinceR, It helps that we live in a basement.
[22:31]	TR News	Introducing Red Hat OpenShift extension for Docker Desktop https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/05/10/introducing-red-hat-openshift-extension-docker-desktop
[22:31]	TR Bot	 Introducing Red Hat OpenShift extension for Docker Desktop | Red Hat Developer
[22:31]	DaemonFC	On the second or third floor, you're looking at the room temperature being about 8-12 degrees hotter than it is down here in the summer.
[22:32]	DaemonFC	When you do need the air conditioner, it'll have all that extra heat to pump out, which will cause your electric bill to go even higher, and your air conditioning won't work very well.
[22:32]	DaemonFC	The air conditioner in the Impala quit working.
[22:32]	DaemonFC	Mom says to have them recharge it while it's in the shop on Friday.
[22:37]	TR News	Red Hat: OpenShift, Keynotes, and RHEL 9 Released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164693
[22:37]	TR Bot	 Red Hat: OpenShift, Keynotes, and RHEL 9 Released | Tux Machines
[22:38]	TR News	"In this episode, Whitney and Patrick Wood discuss the historic roots of the technocratic movement, its development and relevance to current events as well as the ulterior motives behind the so-called green agenda and the Data-centered religions of Silicon Valley." https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/05/podcasts/technocracy-rising-with-patrick-wood-2/
[22:38]	TR Bot	 Technocracy Rising with Patrick Wood
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[22:40]	TR News	Proprietary? https://www.bakersfield.com/ap/news/docker-announces-docker-extensions-and-docker-desktop-for-linux-at-dockercon-2022/article_74d1b33a-98e2-5c06-98f5-ab3c066cd5f9.html
[22:40]	TR Bot	Announces Docker Extensions and Docker Desktop for Linux at DockerCon 2022 | News | bakersfield.com
[22:40]	TR News	EndeavorOS is an Arch Linux distribution for all Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164694
[22:40]	TR Bot	 EndeavorOS is an Arch Linux distribution for all | Tux Machines
[22:41]	TR News	F5/proprietary software https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/10/cisa-adds-one-known-exploited-vulnerability-catalog
[22:41]	TR Bot	 CISA Adds One Known Exploited Vulnerability to Catalog | CISA
[22:42]	TR News	Microsoft Windows again? https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/05/10/us-government-attributes-cyberattacks-satcom-networks-russian
[22:42]	TR Bot	 U.S. Government Attributes Cyberattacks on SATCOM Networks to Russian State-Sponsored Malicious Cyber Actors | CISA
[22:43]	TR News	"Attempts by Russia to limit the information flow to, and among, residents of occupied territories are continuing. According to Ukrainian authorities, Russian troops plunged both the city of Kherson and Kherson region into darkness for three days after they deliberately damaged a fiber optic network." https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/
[22:43]	TR Bot	 Updates: Digital rights in the Russia-Ukraine conflict - Access Now
[22:43]	TR News	"Meanwhile, the local Russian version of YouTube, RuTube, is unavailable after massive cyberattacks on the platform." https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/
[22:47]	TR News	It is not Security Processor but Security Theatre Processor with user-hostile lock-down, i.e. something to be avoided https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2022/05/release-of-technical-report-into-amd.html
[22:47]	TR Bot	 Project Zero: Release of Technical Report into the AMD Security Processor
[22:47]	TR News	WordPress 6.0 Release Candidate 2 (RC2) Now Available for Testing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164695
[22:47]	TR Bot	 WordPress 6.0 Release Candidate 2 (RC2) Now Available for Testing | Tux Machines
[22:48]	TR News	Pages that didnt make it into How DNS Works https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/05/10/pages-that-didn-t-make-it-into--how-dns-works-/ Source: jvns
[22:48]	TR Bot	 Pages that didn't make it into "How DNS Works"
[22:49]	activelow	MinceR: as fast as the entire kde/qt/chromium/webkit c++ monstrosity ... and gcc itself
[22:50]	TR News	Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-130-01
[22:50]	TR Bot	 Adminer in Industrial Products | CISA
[22:51]	activelow	tcc does optimize too, equivalent to -O1, and the SIMD magic implemented with GCC is far less relevant in practice than typically advertised
[22:51]	TR News	Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-130-05
[22:51]	TR Bot	 AVEVA InTouch Access Anywhere and Plant SCADA Access Anywhere | CISA
[22:52]	MinceR	activelow: C++ is used for many other things
[22:52]	activelow	except for GNOME/GTK, until they kneejerked themselves with harfbuzz...
[22:52]	TR News	Intel: our products are STILL.... critically defective https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/security-center/advisory/intel-sa-00617.html
[22:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-INTEL-SA-00617
[22:53]	activelow	somehow, i am glad they did it, otherwise who knows how much more time was wasted instead of departing from this type of "free software"
[22:54]	TR News	Intel spam from Phoronix today, marketing material (raw and crude) as 'article' https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel-vision-2022&num=1
[22:54]	TR Bot	Kicks Off Vision 2022 With Habana Gaudi 2, Greco, 12th Gen Core HX, IPUs - Phoronix
[22:55]	activelow	i will keep X11 (without systemd-evdev) in the archives, and rxvt-2.7 is sufficient for LANG=POSIX... just in case
[22:56]	TR News	Rust: migrating things to Rust is all about security. Also Rust: Oh, maybe not, but look at all those other perceived benefits (like having to create a Microsoft account to participate, and then get censored heavily) https://blog.rust-lang.org/2022/05/10/malicious-crate-rustdecimal.html
[22:56]	TR Bot	 Security advisory: malicious crate rustdecimal | Rust Blog
[22:56]	activelow	and if nothing depends on X11 anymore, meaning all required applications can reside inside linux-console, or an x11-rxvt terminal seamlessly.. then it is close to acceptable
[22:57]	activelow	reminds me, rxvt-2.7 was the last version which _was_ known to support some type of graphics mode... no time yet to hack this
[22:57]	TR News	Rust: we are good at security because we constantly talk about "security". Torvalds had a name for them: "masturbating monkeys". Rust also outsourced everything to monkeyboy Ballmer and the NSA. So much for security...
[22:57]	activelow	netsurf-motif isn't completely dead yet... although the version i adapted for linux is incomplete and unstable
[22:58]	TR News	IBM call for slaves. A new LF marketing campaign for a deeply racist company... https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/create-impact-change-2022-call-for-code/
[22:58]	TR Bot	 Create Impact Change with the 2022 Call for Code - Linux Foundation
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[23:01]	TR News	LF still does greenwashing for IBM while this goes on: http://techrights.org/2022/04/08/planned-obsolescence-ibm/
[23:01]	TR Bot	 IBM and Fedora: Stop Being Poor! Buy a New PC! | Techrights
[23:01]	bnchs	activelow, it's nice how you managed to port netsurf-motif
[23:01]	bnchs	to GNU/Linux
[23:01]	chicksahoy	my PC is from 2013 and I run Fedora, kinda missleading
[23:02]	TR News	Kubernetes in Docker Desktop Just Got Easier with Epinio | SUSE Communities https://www.suse.com/c/kubernetes-in-docker-desktop-just-got-easier-with-epinio/ Source: suse
[23:02]	TR Bot	in Docker Desktop Just Got Easier with Epinio | SUSE Communities
[23:02]	chicksahoy	I got 16GB ram and an intel 4th gen cpu
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[23:02]	activelow	bnchs: it was some SGI/IRIX developer who did it, i only adapted it to suit linux here
[23:02]	TR News	LOL. Buzzword strategies. https://linuxtechlab.com/devops-strategies-for-2022/
[23:02]	TR Bot	Strategies for 2022 - LinuxTechLab
[23:03]	activelow	with some clean gentoo ebuild, ready to develop with
[23:03]	bnchs	activelow, yes i know it was an SGI port
[23:03]	DaemonFC	https://www.walmart.com/ip/zMAX-Micro-Lubricant-Engine-Treatment-Formula-12-oz-or-354-ml/16778689
[23:03]	DaemonFC	LOL
[23:03]	TR Bot	Micro-Lubricant Engine Treatment Formula, 12 oz or 354 ml - Walmart.com
[23:04]	DaemonFC	This is still around. They got sued by the FTC back in 2002 over this. The FTC said it was just a mineral oil that may even harm engines.
[23:04]	TR News	OpenSSF has been outsourced to Microsoft proprietary software in the NSA's bag; so you know it cannot be taken seriously for real security, it is in bed with the biggest culprit https://www.fosslife.org/openssf-introduces-package-analysis-project see http://techrights.org/2020/10/30/openssf-microsoft/
[23:04]	TR Bot	 OpenSSF Introduces Package Analysis Project
[23:04]	TR Bot	 With Microsoft in Charge, OpenSSF Seems More Like Its About Back Doors Not Real Security Inside the Linux Foundation | Techrights
[23:05]	TR News	"Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-130-02 Intelligent [sic] Power Protector [sic]
[23:05]	TR Bot	 Eaton Intelligent Power Protector | CISA
[23:06]	TR News	"The following Eaton Intelligent power monitoring products are affected: Eaton Intelligent Power Manager Infrastructure (IPM Infrastructure): All versions including v1.5.0 plus205" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-130-03
[23:06]	TR Bot	 Eaton Intelligent Power Manager Infrastructure | CISA
[23:07]	TR News	"Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could allow an attacker to execute arbitrary code using untrusted data." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-130-04
[23:07]	TR Bot	 Eaton Intelligent Power Manager | CISA
[23:08]	TR News	"The project is released under the GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE version 3.0." https://medevel.com/cabr2/
[23:08]	TR Bot	 CaBr2 Generates a safety data sheets for lab experiments
[23:09]	TR News	"The EU is in the process of discussing the Declaration of Digital Rights and Principles. The European Parliament has now agreed on a common text recognising Free Software as a way to ensure transparency in algorithms and artificial intelligence." https://fsfe.org/news/nl/nl-202205.en.html
[23:09]	TR Bot	 46 Sign OS Freedom Open Letter +++ Fair Market App +++ Your Digital Rights - FSFE
[23:10]	TR News	"Between 2022-05-03 and 2022-05-10 there were 22 New Steam games released with Native Linux clients. For reference, during the same time, there were 242 games released for Windows on Steam, so the Linux versions represent about 9.1 % of total released titles." https://boilingsteam.com/new-steam-games-native-linux-clients-2022-05-10/
[23:10]	TR Bot	 New Steam Games with Native Linux Clients - 2022-05-10 Edition - Boiling Steam
[23:12]	MinceR	(cat) https://ircz.de/p/2205061
[23:13]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/61yb2hizg8x81.png created on 2022-05-06 00:38:02.595815
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[23:15]	TR News	"There's only been one problem: It hasn't been available for the Linux desktop." https://www.zdnet.com/article/docker-desktop-for-linux-finally-arrives/ Docker the company is in awful hands http://techrights.org/2015/06/25/dockercon-2015-microsoft/
[23:15]	TR Bot	Desktop for Linux finally arrives | ZDNet
[23:15]	TR Bot	 DockerCon 2015 Infiltrated by Microsoft | Techrights
[23:17]	TR News	FSF board shares next steps in board nomination process Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164696
[23:17]	TR Bot	 FSF board shares next steps in board nomination process | Tux Machines
[23:17]	TR News	"The chinese government wants to stop supporting western PC brands and software so they plan to replace millions upon millions of systems with local brands like Lenovo and a Linux based operating system" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=yy0Y_3HyGfE
[23:17]	TR Bot	 China To Ditch 50 Mil Windows PCs for Linux - Invidious
[23:18]	TR News	"I've been a Windows user all my life. Is Linux Mint Xfce recommended?" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=s6rX_qTRvv4
[23:18]	TR Bot	 Hey, DT! Will You Create Your Own Desktop Environment? - Invidious
[23:19]	TR News	SUSE: stop paying attention to that Red Hat event... https://www.suse.com/c/explore-the-future-of-linux-at-susecon-digital-2022/
[23:19]	TR Bot	the Future of Linux at SUSECON Digital 2022 | SUSE Communities
[23:21]	TR News	Fedora Magazine: Whats new in Fedora Workstation 36 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164681#comment-33607
[23:21]	TR Bot	 Fedora Linux 36 Is Here with GNOME 42, Linux Kernel 5.17, and Wayland for NVIDIA Users | Tux Machines
[23:23]	TR News	At last, Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9.0 slips out http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164693#comment-33608
[23:23]	TR Bot	 Red Hat: OpenShift, Keynotes, and RHEL 9 Released | Tux Machines
[23:29]	TR News	The official Ubuntu blog is promoting Windows laptops. This is how pathetic and supine Canonical has become. Don't use Ubuntu. https://ubuntu.com//blog/hp-brings-ubuntu-wsl-data-science
[23:29]	TR Bot	brings the power of Ubuntu-based data science to Windows workstations | Ubuntu
[23:31]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164697
[23:31]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[23:33]	TR News	"[Penk] has Ubuntu 22.04 LTS loaded up right now, and he reports that everything works as expected, though there are a few xrandr commands youll need to run in order for the system to work properly with the circular display." https://hackaday.com/2022/05/10/framework-board-gets-this-round-display-pc-rolling/
[23:33]	TR Bot	Board Gets This Round Display PC Rolling | Hackaday
[23:35]	TR News	Asahi Linux progress in graphics drivers on Apples M1 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164698
[23:35]	TR Bot	 Asahi Linux progress in graphics drivers on Apple's M1 | Tux Machines
[23:37]	TR News	"I've talked with many folks over the years who are interested in doing similar work. Some come from a technical background, and some from an activist background (and some from both). Are you one of them? Are you someone who works as an activist or in a technical field who wants to look into different ways of meging these interests?" https://dkg.fifthhorseman.net/blog/2022-digital-rights-job-fair.html
[23:37]	TR Bot	 dkg's blog - 2022 Digital Rights Job Fair
[23:38]	TR News	"I spent most of my time triaging security issues for Linux, working out which of them were fixed upstream and which actually applied to the versions provided in Debian 9 "stretch". I also rebased the Linux 4.9 (linux) package on the latest stable update, but did not make an upload this month" https://www.decadent.org.uk/ben/blog/debian-lts-work-april-2022.html
[23:38]	TR Bot	 Better living through software - Ben Hutchings's diary of life and technology
[23:38]	TR News	Open Hardware/Modding: RISC-V, ESP32-C3, Raspberry Pi RP2040 MCU, and Arduino Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164699
[23:38]	TR Bot	 Open Hardware/Modding: RISC-V, ESP32-C3, Raspberry Pi RP2040 MCU, and Arduino | Tux Machines
[23:43]	TR News	Red Hat Defines a New Epicenter for Innovation with Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164693#comment-33610
[23:43]	TR Bot	 Red Hat: OpenShift, Keynotes, and RHEL 9 Released | Tux Machines
[23:43]	TR News	Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164700
[23:43]	TR Bot	 Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[23:45]	TR News	This TOO Rust has outsourced to Microsoft proprietary software. With so many people quitting the project you have to wonder who takes over https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2022/05/10/CTCFT-may.html
[23:45]	TR Bot	 CTCFT 2022-05-16 Agenda | Inside Rust Blog
[23:46]	TR News	Linus Torvalds isn't a Linux developer anymore. He's just a Linux mascot. All the important decisions are made by Linux-hostile companies that buy control over the project via Zemlin and the other backstabbers.
[23:49]	TR News	"Since the 2017 launch of the 'One Million Arab Coders' initiative by His Highness Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Vice President, Prime Minister and Ruler of Dubai, Arab programmers, academics, entrepreneurs and technology specialists have experienced exceptional years of growth." https://www.wam.ae/en/details/1395303045081
[23:49]	TR Bot	 Emirates News Agency - 'One Million Arab Coders' initiative embodies Mohammed bin Rashid's vision to empower Arab youth with programming skills
[23:49]	TR News	Absolutely terrible list. Lots of Microsoft crap, inc. proprietary software. https://medium.com/@ISHIRInc/top-12-front-end-development-tools-in-2022-14aa3a8839d8
[23:49]	TR Bot	12 Front End Development Tools in 2022 | by ISHIR | May, 2022 | Medium
[23:50]	TR News	Arm Compilers and Performance Libraries for HPC Developers Now Available for Free https://www.hpcwire.com/off-the-wire/arm-compilers-and-performance-libraries-for-hpc-developers-now-available-for-free/
[23:50]	TR Bot	 Arm Compilers and Performance Libraries for HPC Developers Now Available for Free
[23:50]	bnchs	lol
[23:50]	bnchs	"ONE MILLION ARAB CODERS"
[23:51]	bnchs	now they will know how to make halal bloated websites
[23:51]	MinceR	http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/hair-cum.jpg   ( https://www.engrish.com/2021/02/you-said-lperm-right/ )
[23:51]	TR Bot	 You said Lperm, right?
[23:52]	bnchs	MinceR: how would that work
[23:52]	TR News	GitHub is proprietary software; seems like the wrong way to "open up" https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/06/alibaba_federatedscope/
[23:52]	TR Bot	 Alibaba open-sources FederatedScope ML platform The Register
[23:52]	bnchs	hair cum, "oh lemme just go to the back real quick"
[23:52]	MinceR	\_()_/
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[23:55]	TR News	Greenwashing garbage. UBS gives money to polluters. https://www.ubs.com/global/en/media/display-page-ndp/en-20220407-green-software-foundation.html
[23:55]	TR Bot	joins the Green Software Foundation as Steering Member | UBS Global
[23:55]	DaemonFC	I like talking about radiator flushes.
[23:55]	DaemonFC	I think mainly because it gives you an excuse to say petcock in polite conversation.
[23:56]	TR News	[Older] Apache says Struts 2 security bug wasn't fully fixed in 2020 https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/13/apache_struts_bug_new_patch/
[23:56]	TR Bot	 Apache says 2-year-old Struts bug wasn't fully fixed The Register
[23:56]	TR News	Clustered Pi Picos made to run original Transputer code Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164701
[23:56]	TR Bot	 Clustered Pi Picos made to run original Transputer code | Tux Machines
[23:56]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: leave the petcock alone
[23:56]	schestowitz-TR	this is no grindr date
[23:57]	MinceR	"leave britney alone!"
[23:57]	schestowitz-TR	btw, grindr sells its data
[23:57]	schestowitz-TR	people, locations, connections etc.
[23:57]	DaemonFC	It does.
[23:57]	schestowitz-TR	it was like a massive data hoarding operation
[23:57]	DaemonFC	Somewhere out there, right now, someone knows how much of a pervert John really is.
[23:57]	schestowitz-TR	well, TSA got rid of him
[23:58]	schestowitz-TR	I had filed a complaint
[23:58]	DaemonFC	Pull the hose off and drain the petcock.
[23:58]	schestowitz-TR	maybe they quietly processed it as they never bothered replying
[23:58]	schestowitz-TR	KIA <3 John
[23:59]	DaemonFC	It says he lives near the sound in Seattle now. They aren't exactly giving those apartments away.
[23:59]	schestowitz-TR	so not too far from where Rich Allen Jones was caught
[23:59]	bnchs	schestowitz-TR, didn't egypt use grindr to catch gay people
[23:59]	schestowitz-TR	don't know