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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Only Sheep Will Believe That Microsoft Loves Linux http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/microsoft-only-loves-windows/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/0482d11b-9003-4437-a44d-70c12b7a6e61]Jun 10 01:35
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Intel SRBDS/CrossTalk Vulnerabilities Now Patched in All Supported Ubuntu Releases http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138586 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9196439b-fb96-470d-9455-62cf8bdcf7e9]Jun 10 01:37
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138587 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f12fa904-5fa9-4c10-b8bd-4bdfef292b6d]Jun 10 01:39
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schestowitz>> But is FSF compromised?Jun 10 06:39
schestowitz> Without question! More than the GNU Project. And both are. Surprised you would ask, when you know who and why and how.Jun 10 06:39
schestowitzRe: rms dayJun 10 06:41
schestowitz> this is intended as a message, not an article. if it were an article, itJun 10 06:41
schestowitz> wouldnt just go over the relevant points. it would try to present themJun 10 06:41
schestowitz> to a broader audience.Jun 10 06:41
schestowitz> Jun 10 06:41
schestowitz> this is a message to you personally-- of course it will be made public,Jun 10 06:41
schestowitz> thats neither here nor there. its a detail and beside the point. im notJun 10 06:41
schestowitz> sending this to you to make the argument to your readers, im sendingJun 10 06:41
schestowitz> this to make the argument to you:Jun 10 06:41
schestowitz> Jun 10 06:41
schestowitz> there should be a richard stallman day and that day should be sept. 27.Jun 10 06:41
schestowitz> Jun 10 06:41
schestowitz> richard stallman would say it should be “free software day” or “gnuJun 10 06:41
schestowitz> day”-- heres why i dont agree.Jun 10 06:41
schestowitz> Jun 10 06:41
schestowitz> free software will be co-opted, and we should defend it. but they willJun 10 06:41
schestowitz> co-opt it by attacking stallman. gnu is also co-opted. if you call itJun 10 06:41
schestowitz> gnu day, it will stand as much for the people co-opting it as theJun 10 06:41
schestowitz> project itself.Jun 10 06:41
schestowitz> Jun 10 06:41
schestowitz> stallman is as important to software freedom as mlk is to the civilJun 10 06:41
schestowitz> rights movement. mlk has streets named after him-- he was not the lastJun 10 06:41
schestowitz> important leader, but he was and is of vital historical importance.Jun 10 06:41
schestowitz> Jun 10 06:41
schestowitz> in the context of the software world, stallman is just as important. heJun 10 06:42
schestowitz> would rather we call it free software day or gnu day, but by calling itJun 10 06:42
schestowitz> richard stallman day we celebrate and stand for the true lineage of theJun 10 06:42
schestowitz> free software movement and the gnu project, rather than those who co-optJun 10 06:42
schestowitz> it for corporations and monopolies (and who attack stallman).Jun 10 06:42
schestowitz> Jun 10 06:42
schestowitz> sept 17 of course, because its the day of the most important thingJun 10 06:42
schestowitz> stallman did, which is create the gnu project.Jun 10 06:42
schestowitz> Jun 10 06:42
schestowitz> the truth is that stallman stands for the gnu project more than the gnuJun 10 06:42
schestowitz> project does. stallman stands for free software more than free softwareJun 10 06:42
schestowitz> does (for now).Jun 10 06:42
schestowitz> Jun 10 06:42
schestowitz> the goal of free software is for all software to be free. the fsf andJun 10 06:42
schestowitz> the gnu project both have taken paths that get farther from this goal,Jun 10 06:42
schestowitz> while stallman has continued to stand for them. if you really want toJun 10 06:42
schestowitz> celebrate the true ideals of gnu and free software, you are celebratingJun 10 06:42
schestowitz> stallman. not because he wants to be as important as free software-- imJun 10 06:42
schestowitz> sure he wants free software to outlast him and to be bigger than he is.Jun 10 06:42
schestowitz> Jun 10 06:42
schestowitz> but you wouldnt replace mlk day with “civil rights day” because mlk isJun 10 06:42
schestowitz> too important a symbol for civil rights to do that. you can co-opt mlkJun 10 06:42
schestowitz> day, its not impossible, but mlk will always be mlk-- and stallman willJun 10 06:42
schestowitz> always be stallman. people will try-- have tried, to change that, butJun 10 06:42
schestowitz> that doesnt really change. gnu may become microsoft gnu, the fsf mayJun 10 06:42
schestowitz> become a propaganda wing for ibm, but stallman never really ceases to beJun 10 06:42
schestowitz> stallman. thats why it should be richard stallman day-- to remind us ofJun 10 06:42
schestowitz> the true nature of the gnu project and free software, as mlk reminds usJun 10 06:42
schestowitz> of the struggle for civil rights (which is far from won or over, evenJun 10 06:42
schestowitz> today). i also, for the record, admire malcolm x.Jun 10 06:42
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138589 [https://pleroma.site/objects/771afd44-e669-483e-b89f-748f287f8970]Jun 10 07:35
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schestowitz"BTW FUD was learned and honed from IBM by M$.  Remember, if M$ does something, it copied it from elsewhere.  IBM abused this technique in the 1970s and 1980s but M$ has been taking it to new levels ever since." Jun 10 08:15
schestowitzhttps://www.csoonline.com/article/2116379/fear--uncertainty--doubt.htmlJun 10 08:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.csoonline.com | Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt | CSO OnlineJun 10 08:15
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Nextcloud Vs ownCloud: What’s the Difference? Which one Should You Use? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138588 [https://pleroma.site/objects/33e7a4b8-1371-45d5-bb9a-d74d5282d6ba]Jun 10 08:26
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Release | Endless OS 3.8.3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138590 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2145cc7e-ef6d-42e2-af4c-375ef95bf90c]Jun 10 08:47
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: China’s Computers Run on Microsoft Windows: Are They Vulnerable to US Pressure? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138591 [https://pleroma.site/objects/269b8ab1-5c5b-4474-baae-7193cf40467d]Jun 10 08:52
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oiaohmschestowitz: comparing RMS to Martin Luther King Jr is the wrong one.   The one you need to look to is Nelson Mandela.  Remember Nelson Mandela put the main control under George Bizos so he could act more extreamly without indangering the movement.Jun 10 09:42
oiaohmMartin Luther King Jr was not against merciless resistance.   Where Nelson Mandela was.  This gives a difference in how clean legally the person has to be at the top.   This also means at times the person at the top has to step down and let another person take over on paper to protect things.Jun 10 09:44
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AVRSHi. Does fsfla.org work for you?Jun 10 09:45
AVRSnm, it works for me in Links, but not in FirefoxJun 10 09:47
oiaohmAVRS: It working in firefox now.Jun 10 09:52
oiaohmAVRS: the site was down for some reason.Jun 10 09:53
schestowitzis it still as active as before?Jun 10 09:56
schestowitzalex oliva became quiet after speaking out about the FSFJun 10 09:56
zoobabTillman issued a paper in GRUR, saying Paris will get the UPC court, not the ItaliansJun 10 10:29
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schestowitzhe's a liarJun 10 10:48
schestowitzzoobab: Zune will dominate the mobile market, tooJun 10 10:49
schestowitzdid he publish it in German, so upc critics won't notice or rebut?Jun 10 10:52
schestowitzzoobab: I see nothing that you write anymore http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/goodbye-twitter/Jun 10 11:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Going Write-Only in Twitter (One Step Away From Deleting Twitter) | TechrightsJun 10 11:28
schestowitzyou gave this nasty company a monopoly over your communications; afaik, no other site has your postingsJun 10 11:28
zoobabis there a way to mirror them all?Jun 10 11:30
zoobabpleroma.site does not work here, the frontpage does not even loadJun 10 11:30
zoobabI will be back to NNTP soon if that continuesJun 10 11:31
schestowitzwhich browser?Jun 10 11:38
schestowitzpleroma.site works for me with konqueror and FFJun 10 11:38
schestowitzyou need JSJun 10 11:38
schestowitzit's Fediverse-compatibleJun 10 11:38
schestowitzMastodon and allJun 10 11:38
schestowitzNNTP is good alsoJun 10 11:39
schestowitzbut you need to decide which forum, I posted like 100,000 posts through NNTP until around 2010Jun 10 11:39
schestowitzIRC is good also and we publish logs every dayJun 10 11:39
schestowitzwe can share links here and collaborate alsoJun 10 11:39
schestowitzlinks and even tweets of interest (team upc) are expanded by the botsJun 10 11:40
schestowitzI saw some decent IRC clients even for Android, so you can keep abreast on the go without all the surveillance of TwitterJun 10 11:40
schestowitzOn an old tablet I has AndroIRC or something like that...Jun 10 11:40
schestowitzanyway, don't use Twitter as primary for anythingJun 10 11:41
schestowitzit's 2020 iJun 10 11:41
schestowitzit's Trump's siteJun 10 11:41
schestowitztime to let goJun 10 11:41
schestowitzit's for online brawls with billion or so people... mostly people you do not agree withJun 10 11:41
schestowitzand would never share a forum withJun 10 11:41
schestowitzso you waste time fighting, not sharing infoJun 10 11:41
schestowitzzoobab: use pleroma.site if possibleJun 10 11:43
schestowitzthen Ariadne can add you to the viera botJun 10 11:43
schestowitzand I can see your posts in real timeJun 10 11:43
schestowitzyou can cite twitter tweets thereJun 10 11:43
schestowitzthey'd be expanded and shown in-lineJun 10 11:43
schestowitzand we'll help grow the fediverse instead of monopoliesJun 10 11:43
schestowitzMy account there is https://pleroma.site/schestowitzJun 10 11:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | PleromaJun 10 11:44
schestowitzgood luck..Jun 10 11:44
AVRSWhy exactly pleroma.site? Is it about the site or the whole platform? Or do you mean it to avoid a random site that may be against it?Jun 10 11:46
schestowitzUnless he plans to self-hostJun 10 11:48
schestowitzpleroma.site=fediverseJun 10 11:48
schestowitzi.e. thousands of sitesJun 10 11:48
schestowitzthis one is France-hosted, afaik zoobab's mother's tongue is french, not dutchJun 10 11:48
schestowitzpleroma.site is also generally tuned into the agenda zoobab talks about it.... it's not some random bunch of people, they have many things in commonJun 10 11:49
schestowitzso even for those who don't federate across platform seeing the local timeline can be handyJun 10 11:50
schestowitzmastodon.technology kicked me outJun 10 11:50
schestowitzfor the most laughable reasons, after shadow-banning me for posting 'too much'Jun 10 11:50
schestowitzthen gnusocial.de shut downJun 10 11:50
schestowitzsecond fediverse account I lostJun 10 11:51
schestowitzso this is my third alreadyJun 10 11:51
MinceRre rms day: i miss the old rms who would have organized a campaign against systemd instead of pretending that it's for the freedom of the usersJun 10 12:14
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138595 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ac1aae28-234f-4180-aa7c-d69823f71481]Jun 10 12:32
insmodppaMastodon (the project staff, espcially it's lead and the official instance itself) gives off the impression of a bunch of internet drama queens that can't seem to get on anyone's good side.Jun 10 12:37
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Raspberry Pi 4: Chronicling the Desktop Experience – Personal Information Managers – Week 33 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138592 [https://pleroma.site/objects/75331d24-3dc3-4449-9dcb-1883991576e6]Jun 10 12:37
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: PineTab 10.1″ Linux tablet Launched for $99.99 with UBPorts OS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138593 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1f82c251-4320-41db-86e4-7a4b79521121]Jun 10 12:39
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138594 Canonical Releases Important Ubuntu Kernel Security Updates, Patch Now [https://pleroma.site/objects/d34090c0-3fb3-43fc-9e4f-c85f3397f97e]Jun 10 12:41
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138596 [https://pleroma.site/objects/62231e1d-9c22-43a1-8862-f0e9d5a8b339]Jun 10 12:43
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Hamburg wants to focus more on Free Software http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138597 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a4ea8cc3-a7ed-429f-be10-d581438ad5cb]Jun 10 12:47
scientesI can't do itJun 10 12:47
scientesI can't read C++Jun 10 12:47
scientesit is just too difficult to read C++Jun 10 12:47
scientesyou never know what the data structure in use isJun 10 12:47
scientesI don't know how people do itJun 10 12:47
scientesand also the error messages suck assJun 10 12:51
MinceRyou can look it up where it's definedJun 10 13:18
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XRevan86Now that the word "master" is considered more and more offensive, I suggest abolishing master's degrees.Jun 10 14:31
XRevan86And schoolmasters.Jun 10 14:33
MinceRlolJun 10 15:02
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Humble Bundle, GOG and a Lot More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138600 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8b9ef4ae-dcd0-4682-af1a-d1911fb74d59]Jun 10 15:39
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: SpaceX Starlink Satellites ‘Run Linux Computers In Space’ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138347#comment-25442 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fca55869-2418-4355-a9a0-da8f0f8cc86f]Jun 10 15:44
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Benchmarking The Updated Intel CPU Microcode For SRBDS / CrossTalk Mitigation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138598 [https://pleroma.site/objects/37c93cc7-ca87-4cd3-9f8f-a86947ab6544]Jun 10 15:47
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138599 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2c3c0ccb-aaa0-4f27-a8ef-04c4e56f9075]Jun 10 15:48
scientesXRevan86, slave's degreesJun 10 15:54
scientesand schoolherderJun 10 15:54
XRevan86scientes: I thought it's established that they're called bachelor's degrees.Jun 10 15:55
scientesI find it funny that PhD often do not know that they are doctorsJun 10 15:55
scientes*PhDsJun 10 15:55
XRevan86("bachelor" actually descends from a word meaning squire %))Jun 10 15:55
XRevan86scientes: And that they have something to do with philosophy?Jun 10 15:56
XRevan86I guess SD doesn't have quite the same ring to it.Jun 10 15:58
scientesSD?Jun 10 15:59
XRevan86Caution: bad pun ahead.Jun 10 15:59
XRevan86Why is it considered unbecoming for a doctor to doctor their doctorate?Jun 10 15:59
scientesheheheheJun 10 16:00
XRevan86scientes: Doctor of ScienceJun 10 16:00
XRevan86as opposed to Doctor of PhilosophyJun 10 16:00
MinceRPrimary of Science, Replica of ScienceJun 10 16:00
XRevan86By the way, I think Redis only changed slave to replica, leaving master in-tact.Jun 10 16:03
XRevan86Fools thought that's okayJun 10 16:03
MinceRdid it get the crybullies off their necks?Jun 10 16:04
XRevan86MinceR: They did at the time.Jun 10 16:04
MinceR:>Jun 10 16:05
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XRevan86I don't see any new reports there, so I guess no one thought of bringing this up again.Jun 10 16:06
XRevan86Or maybe it means that there aren't as many people who are willing to fight "master" for being a second word-member of a racist master/slave topology.Jun 10 16:12
XRevan86Somewhat edgy, but I really wanted to use that combination of words in a sentence where it works %).Jun 10 16:17
*XRevan86 rarely employs edgy humour, because reality is usually crazy enough even without me beefing it up.Jun 10 16:19
MinceRhttps://i2.wp.com/www.kohney.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/site-june10-bushbush-scaled.jpgJun 10 16:20
XRevan86Pieskov said that the Putin term's nullification amendment lacking on an official web site with Constitution amendments must have been an uploading error.Jun 10 16:22
XRevan86I see no reason to put a joke in there, it's built-inJun 10 16:22
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XRevan86"term's nullification" – hm, this may sound ambiguous… nullification of past termsJun 10 16:35
XRevan86or resetJun 10 16:37
XRevan86Putin's term reset, there.Jun 10 16:37
XRevan86The logic is beautiful: because president's responsibilities changed slightly, past presidents no longer count as presidents under the new slightly changed definition, therefore the restrictions no longer apply for the past not-really-presidents-under-the-new-rules.Jun 10 16:40
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/foss-nonfoss.jpgJun 10 16:43
XRevan86schestowitz: I'll go check "14 Best Photo Editor Apps of 2020"Jun 10 16:45
XRevan86Surely there must be FOSS in there.Jun 10 16:45
XRevan86noJun 10 16:46
XRevan86You'd think that FOSS will be able to at least beat those toy editors for Android, but apparently not.Jun 10 16:50
FunkyStickmanSadly, a lot of FOSS people won't use Google Play because of requiring Google's security. And they have whatever beef with F-Droid. Just sucks all around.Jun 10 16:52
XRevan86FunkyStickman: A lot? Haven't seen any. Maybe because they're not on F-Droid %).Jun 10 16:53
FunkyStickmanI'm speaking in general, really. I haven't looked for photo editors there.Jun 10 16:55
XRevan86FunkyStickman: I as well.Jun 10 16:55
XRevan86There's Krita for Android, but I haven't tried it.Jun 10 16:56
XRevan86Pidgin 2.14.0 is here.Jun 10 17:17
XRevan86https://sourceforge.net/projects/pidgin/files/Pidgin/2.14.0/Jun 10 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pidgin IM - Browse /Pidgin/2.14.0 at SourceForge.netJun 10 17:18
MinceRhttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dandroidmobile.xgimp&hl=enJun 10 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-play.google.com | XGimp Image Editor - Apps on Google PlayJun 10 17:33
*DaemonFC[m] uploaded an image: Screenshot_2020-06-10 WTHR-TV - Posts(3).png (219KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/mzLLWSRZiVohvlEuOoorOMky >Jun 10 17:34
MinceRhm, according to comments it is not what it claims to beJun 10 17:44
DaemonFC[m]Has Gimp moved to GTK 3 yet?Jun 10 18:01
DaemonFC[m]9 years later......Jun 10 18:01
MinceRwhy should it?Jun 10 18:01
MinceRgnome made it clear that gimp is not welcome as a gtk userJun 10 18:01
MinceRnot that qt is much less of a clusterfuckJun 10 18:01
DaemonFC[m]Qt is worse.Jun 10 18:02
DaemonFC[m]https://www.zdnet.com/article/ubuntu-opens-the-door-to-talking-with-linux-mint-about-snap/Jun 10 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu opens the door to talking with Linux Mint about Snap | ZDNetJun 10 18:02
DaemonFC[m]Lower communications barrier!Jun 10 18:02
MinceR:>Jun 10 18:02
MinceRTHIS IS NOT WAR, THIS IS PEST CONTROL!Jun 10 18:02
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: That was my first thought when Trump's attorney general said they'd pursue bioterrorism charges against people who deliberately spread COVID-19.Jun 10 18:04
DaemonFC[m]Now it almost seems cute. Do they mean that Republicans who refuse to wear a mask and shout "I'm an American! WAAAAAAAH! on Facebook Live are terrorists using a bioweapon?Jun 10 18:04
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Not sure why you like Stargate so much. Rodney McKay is supposed to be like a 300 IQ super genius and says he gets malware on his computer from porn downloads.Jun 10 18:21
MinceRlolJun 10 18:22
MinceR(cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/04/29/ae8f84b993ba2762.jpgJun 10 18:24
DaemonFC[m]I don't know why the RIAA freaks out about youtube to mp3.Jun 10 18:24
DaemonFC[m]They're the ones that put up their own music on Youtube knowing that people could access and transcode it to somethingJun 10 18:24
MinceRthey're old dumbasses and had no idea this could be doneJun 10 18:24
DaemonFC[m]Herr Derrr, let's just put our own stuff here and then complain that people download it.Jun 10 18:25
MinceRthey probably believe it's possible to play stuff available online without downloading itJun 10 18:25
DaemonFC[m]Downloading music is bad, mmmkay?Jun 10 18:30
DaemonFC[m]Now I'm just going to pass around a little bit of MP3 so you can see what it sounds like!Jun 10 18:30
MinceRlolJun 10 18:32
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DaemonFC[m]I love this. All you have to do to troll Republicans is yank a bunch of their racist s**t down.Jun 10 18:49
DaemonFC[m]As an aside, this proves my point that people who depend on streaming are idiots. How hard is it to store local copies of music?Jun 10 18:49
DaemonFC[m]Soundcloud lets you download for the most part. iPhone morons were outraged that the only mainstream format their phone supports is s**t-ass MP3 (and even then, Apple's implementation has bugs that are 20 years old in it) and complained when they switched to Opus. B-Jun 10 18:49
DaemonFC[m]My comment on Facebook on this: https://www.wthr.com/article/hbo-max-temporarily-pulls-gone-wind-amid-racial-tensionsJun 10 18:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-HBO Max temporarily pulls 'Gone with the Wind' amid racial tensions - Entertainment News - 13 WTHR IndianapolisJun 10 18:49
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MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/antsyJun 10 19:52
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DaemonFC[m]I'm going to go vote wearing my "Fuck Trump, and if you like Trump, fuck you too." face mask.Jun 10 20:26
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DaemonFC[m]It doesn't violate Illinois election law.Jun 10 20:26
DaemonFC[m]Illinois election law says you can't support a candidate near a polling place. It doesn't say that you can't voice your contempt for one.Jun 10 20:26
MinceR:>Jun 10 20:36
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: goodJun 10 20:58
DaemonFC[m]Indiana's only hope was that hipsters would think that it was ironic to live there, but the political climate makes even that unlikely.Jun 10 21:04
DaemonFC[m]Now the economy is primarily making aluminum and manure for China.Jun 10 21:04
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DaemonFC[m]I heard that MP3 will make a comeback as a music format for hipsters.Jun 10 21:04
DaemonFC[m]Then again I've also read a blog by a Mac owner that thinks that unpacking FLAC files as AIFFs and listening to them that way makes them sound better.Jun 10 21:06
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MinceRlolJun 10 21:08
DaemonFC[m]Apple's lossless format kind of defeats one of the purposes of lossless audio.Jun 10 21:08
DaemonFC[m]If an ALAC frame is corrupted, it can't even tell you. Jun 10 21:08
DaemonFC[m]It defeats the other purpose because the files are about 10% larger than WavPack Extra High while requiring about the same amount of CPU time to decode them.Jun 10 21:09
DaemonFC[m]Even though I can transcode them to WavPack, they're not an ideal source because I have to run them through AccurateRIP to see if the files were internally corrupted. Jun 10 21:11
DaemonFC[m]Sometimes one or more tracks don't match and that's probably why.Jun 10 21:11
DaemonFC[m]The only thing BitTorrent ensures is that the files match whatever state they were in when someone created the torrent.Jun 10 21:12
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DaemonFC[m]Ripping a CD with a $5,000 Mac shouldn't mean a drive that skips and jumps randomly and a software program from Apple that doesn't bother to correct that, which puts it into an inefficient Apple format that can't even tell you if the file is corrupt or not.Jun 10 21:17
DaemonFC[m]But, that's how Apple products have always been.Jun 10 21:17
DaemonFC[m]I'm sure if the Windows kernel is so shitty that Slysoft managed to defeat all of the Blu Ray DRM, then Apple's shouldn't even be that much of a challenge.Jun 10 21:19
DaemonFC[m]It would be nice if Slysoft open sourced their software to crack Blu Ray Discs, but I guess it's better that a program exists than that one doesn't, even if it's proprietary.Jun 10 21:20
DaemonFC[m]The DRM is nastier than shit and anything that undermines and defeats it is desirable. Jun 10 21:20
DaemonFC[m]Once we have one copy of something that is stripped of the DRM, we can make as many as we want.Jun 10 21:20
DaemonFC[m]So I support what they're doing, even if it is unfortunately a proprietary program.Jun 10 21:21
DaemonFC[m]At some point, they're probably going to stop producing Blu Ray Discs to foist streaming on people.Jun 10 21:21
DaemonFC[m]People are already doing lots of Web Rips. I approve of running the DRM software to decrypt something and make copies for other people. It's the one legitimate reason to run such a program on your computer.Jun 10 21:22
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DaemonFC[m]The patent situation in software reminds me of Bill Hicks talking about America and Iraq.Jun 10 21:28
DaemonFC[m]"We sold them the old shit and then we used the new shit on them."Jun 10 21:28
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Apple must have realized that they sabotaged AAC by accident.Jun 10 21:31
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DaemonFC[m]Most of the top selling music these days is literally painful to listen to, regardless.Jun 10 21:34
DaemonFC[m]Lossless doesn't even matter, much less whether it's MP3 or AAC.Jun 10 21:34
DaemonFC[m]The Loudness Wars.Jun 10 21:35
DaemonFC[m]Then years too late, Apple did "Mastered for iTunes", the only part of which actually mattered was a very polite request to fucking cut it out with the loudness.Jun 10 21:36
DaemonFC[m]If you listen to Spotify they've taken old Fleetwood Mac albums (their only good ones were with Stevie Nicks) and turned it into Fleetwood Slayer Metallica Death Laser 3000.Jun 10 21:37
DaemonFC[m]Do old people really appreciate that? Are they ruining things to try to get younger people who are so ignorant that they listen to stuff that makes 80s and 90s Metallica sound fucking poetic to buy it? Jun 10 21:38
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MinceRFleetwood Slayer Metallica Death Laser 3000? sounds niceJun 10 21:55
AVRS(low importance) Did schestowitz write anything about the alleged age and location of Giuffre when she was directed to go to Minsky? It's not in Document(5).pdf near the word "Minsky".Jun 10 22:00
AVRSShe said she doesn't know.Jun 10 22:00
AVRSdoesn't know about age and time, and wasn't sure about location apparentlyJun 10 22:01
AVRSalthough a writer allegedly said she saw her when he was with MinskyJun 10 22:01
AVRS*he saw herJun 10 22:02
AVRSand I read something about them being together on a planeJun 10 22:02
AVRSthe latter is from Document(9).pdfJun 10 22:04
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AriadneI can add them to viera regardless of what they useJun 10 22:23
Ariadneviera acts as an AP serverJun 10 22:24
Ariadne:)Jun 10 22:24
schestowitzhttps://www.redhat.com/en/blog/open-sourcing-my-transitionJun 10 22:24
schestowitz"My gender transition was, and continues to be, guided by open source principles. As an early adopter of open source, I’ve been using the principles to bring value to my life and guide my transition out of the closet."Jun 10 22:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Open sourcing my transitionJun 10 22:24
schestowitzI see Red Hat is very focused on technical things todayJun 10 22:24
schestowitzMaybe capitalising on trolls and rowlingJun 10 22:25
schestowitzAriadne: thanks, I assumed it was working irrespective of the instanceJun 10 22:25
Ariadnewhat the fuckJun 10 22:25
Ariadne"My gender transition was, and continues to be, guided by open source principles."Jun 10 22:26
Ariadnewhat does this even meanJun 10 22:26
XRevan86Ariadne: Something very stretched outJun 10 22:27
Ariadneoh they created some Google docs on how to navigate the legal processJun 10 22:27
MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/planJun 10 22:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - PlanJun 10 22:27
Ariadnehahahahaha legal process is only part of itJun 10 22:27
XRevan86"Collaboration"Jun 10 22:27
XRevan86> Transitioning is a collaborative process. We need to collaborate with our mental and physical health care teams at every stage of treatment.Jun 10 22:27
MinceRstop, collaborate and listen?Jun 10 22:27
psydreadRed Hat spreading open source awarenessJun 10 22:28
XRevan86So a FOSS principle of collaboration is about collaborating with oneself?Jun 10 22:28
MinceRi think it's about collaborating with ibmJun 10 22:28
Ariadne???????Jun 10 22:28
Ariadneas a trans person this blog makes my brain hurtJun 10 22:28
MinceRso they can make users of your work depend on support contracts with ibm :>Jun 10 22:28
XRevan86> we must turn to our family, friends, and allies to fill in those gaps.Jun 10 22:28
XRevan86Though I don't know, "mental and physical health care teams" is just such a strange way to think of people.Jun 10 22:28
MinceRdoes that cover all people?Jun 10 22:29
XRevan86MinceR: Just "family, friends, and allies"Jun 10 22:29
MinceR:>Jun 10 22:29
XRevan86FOSS is all about collaboration with family, friends, and allies.Jun 10 22:29
AriadneI don't haveJun 10 22:29
Ariadnea mental and physical health care teamsJun 10 22:30
AriadneI just have a doctor manJun 10 22:30
Ariadneliterally it was likeJun 10 22:30
Ariadnehi yes im trans give me fucking hormonesJun 10 22:30
Ariadneok doneJun 10 22:30
psydreadopen up all of your sources to enjoy the most satisfying collaborationJun 10 22:31
XRevan86Ariadne: I think this is more about being accepted by friends and family, and them supporting oneself, etc.Jun 10 22:31
AriadneokJun 10 22:31
AriadnebutJun 10 22:31
Ariadnethat's just basic decencyJun 10 22:32
Ariadnenot "open source"Jun 10 22:32
XRevan86But this still makes no sense. I could write a text like this about grocery shopping.Jun 10 22:32
schestowitzI think Red Hat/IBM just wants to exploit all that media noiseJun 10 22:32
schestowitzwhich imho hurts trans peopleJun 10 22:32
Ariadne"open source collaborating" is what I do on Grindr if you know what I meanJun 10 22:32
XRevan86One has to collaborate to reach a conclusion on what will be on breakfast tomorrow.Jun 10 22:32
schestowitzassociating them with bullying and mob-lynching high-profile peopleJun 10 22:32
Ariadnemeet up at hotel and review some merge requests o yeahJun 10 22:33
schestowitzanyway, I'm just going through red hat news picks at the moment, this one just baffled me... openwashing it seemsJun 10 22:33
Ariadnethat one is offensiveJun 10 22:34
psydreadbut are you going to open up and publish your sources or not?Jun 10 22:34
XRevan86schestowitz: Well, I think the most harm comes from "look how silly the transgender people are, what strange comparisons they make", but I don't think people who can actually take that seriously read the Red Hat blog.Jun 10 22:35
Ariadnepsydread: like I said I do that on Grindr and fetlifeJun 10 22:35
XRevan86So eh, just another corporate entity trying to be inclusive in their misguided way.Jun 10 22:35
psydreadI've seen a lot of nonsense in Red Hat spam mails for more than a year now and it makes me wonder if that is a company I would ever want to rely on or even be associated withJun 10 22:36
XRevan86Or maybe it's intentionally like that to grab attention.Jun 10 22:36
MinceRor trying to googlebomb some termsJun 10 22:36
MinceRor trying to create an "open source" IBM transsexuality, available for saleJun 10 22:37
psydreadand also if this was the ultimate goal they always had in mind ever since they started the companyJun 10 22:37
XRevan86MinceR: Oh, like a MethodJun 10 22:37
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MinceRRed Hat Enterprise Transsexuality®Jun 10 22:38
XRevan86> Sponsored Post inquiry for loadaverage.orgJun 10 22:39
XRevan86At first I wondered: why didn't this go to spam, but then I noticed it came from gmailJun 10 22:39
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psydreadnow if we are serious about open source we should write blog posts about how Red Hat and IBM help us to do our daily business and we can't imagine life without themJun 10 22:40
schestowitzMinceR: I know someone trans from IBMJun 10 22:40
XRevan86SEO's keep assaulting meJun 10 22:40
schestowitza gnu/linux proponentJun 10 22:40
schestowitzthe company isn't necessarily hostile towards themJun 10 22:40
schestowitzI think blacks have had more of an issue there, historicallyJun 10 22:40
schestowitzIBM is very typical white suits firmJun 10 22:40
schestowitzXRevan86: i get those tooJun 10 22:41
schestowitzrianne alsoJun 10 22:41
schestowitzfor tuxmachinesJun 10 22:41
MinceRschestowitz: only the part that is trying to destroy both GNU and Linux? :>Jun 10 22:41
schestowitzthey're largelty automatedJun 10 22:41
schestowitzthey scrape names from icann/whoisJun 10 22:42
MinceRi wonder what the card-carrying crApple shill part of IBM thinks of GNU and LinuxJun 10 22:42
schestowitzand then pair that with some email params and templates, nothing personal, likely a botJun 10 22:42
psydread"I went to the barber today because Red Hat helped me find the source of the scissors", "I found my way back to the beach at last, because open source allowed me consult the weather map and I deemed it sufficiently safe to go there"Jun 10 22:42
MinceRlolJun 10 22:42
schestowitzred hat did even worse openwashing latelyJun 10 22:42
schestowitzand they recruited jono bacon to helpJun 10 22:43
MinceRmaybe they're trying to strip the term "open source" of meaningJun 10 22:43
schestowitzthey made up fake 'community' and hasgtags fro Whitehurst's bookJun 10 22:43
MinceRthey'll do this for microshitJun 10 22:43
schestowitzfake grassroors, astroturfJun 10 22:43
schestowitzit didn't last long, the whole thing was a shamJun 10 22:43
schestowitzMinceR: it serves them well when it loses meaningJun 10 22:43
schestowitzlike open orgJun 10 22:43
schestowitzopen managementJun 10 22:43
XRevan86psydroid: Did you know that barbers employ Open Source principles in their work?Jun 10 22:44
schestowitzmeans as much as open officesJun 10 22:44
schestowitzi.e. offices where $boss spies on you behind your backJun 10 22:44
schestowitzhardly "open"Jun 10 22:44
schestowitzunless surveillance is "all about openness"Jun 10 22:44
schestowitzdon't even burp or fart, colleagues will mock you behind your backJun 10 22:44
psydreadXRevan86, maybe you could enlighten me with a blog post on opensource.comJun 10 22:44
schestowitzthe former editor of opensource.org threw a slur at me the other dayJun 10 22:45
schestowitzAFTER she had blocked meJun 10 22:45
schestowitzthough I NEVER SPOKE TO HER!!Jun 10 22:45
Ariadnewhat slur was thatJun 10 22:45
schestowitz(ever)Jun 10 22:45
Ariadnetell us allJun 10 22:45
schestowitzsomething about a link being made to techrights by christine hallJun 10 22:46
schestowitzthey try to stop her reading and linking to usJun 10 22:46
schestowitzesp. now that we speak a lot about ibm and redhatJun 10 22:46
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "means as much as open offices"> Brave warns about this in the Tor Tabs documentation.Jun 10 22:46
schestowitzopenoffice = goodJun 10 22:46
schestowitzopen office = crapJun 10 22:46
DaemonFC[m]If you're using someone else's computer or your work computer, it might spy on you with software installed locally.Jun 10 22:46
schestowitzopen offices may thankfully die thanks to covidJun 10 22:46
schestowitzthen I can easily swap between employers without risking having to leave my home officeJun 10 22:47
MinceR:)Jun 10 22:47
DaemonFC[m]COVID-19 seems to be slowing down faster than I was hoping.Jun 10 22:47
AriadnenahJun 10 22:47
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XRevan86> We don’t come out all at once, but instead continually and with every new interaction.Jun 10 22:47
Ariadneit's gonna peak hardcoreJun 10 22:47
DaemonFC[m]I was hoping it would keep flushing the shit that gave us Donald Trump.Jun 10 22:47
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XRevan86Something about this sentence rubs me the wrong wayJun 10 22:47
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: my sister is forced back to the office nowJun 10 22:47
schestowitzthough she wanted to carry on working from homeJun 10 22:48
Ariadnecuz of memorial dayJun 10 22:48
MinceRthe death rate is way too low for thatJun 10 22:48
MinceRmaybe with reinfection...Jun 10 22:48
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Like the bum in Chicago was shouting....Jun 10 22:48
DaemonFC[m]"Anything helps! Anything  helps!"Jun 10 22:48
MinceRlolJun 10 22:48
MinceRa meteorite would certainly helpJun 10 22:48
schestowitzthe only impact covid had on us was having to work out from homeJun 10 22:48
DaemonFC[m]Well, the virus only kills 2% or so, but 90% of that is people over 60.Jun 10 22:49
schestowitz(and buying food less frequently)Jun 10 22:49
DaemonFC[m]They're the biggest bunch of kooks and cranks and shitheads that we have in this country, it seems.Jun 10 22:49
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: It also kills badly protected doctors and nurses.Jun 10 22:49
psydreadXRevan86, that sounds like the perspective from the side of the currently raging virusJun 10 22:49
DaemonFC[m]They're not even smart enough to appreciate that 2% which is 90% people over 60 is not great news for them.Jun 10 22:49
schestowitzit's not universalJun 10 22:50
XRevan86Apparently there's a correlation between severity and amount of exposure.Jun 10 22:50
schestowitzin the uk we had almost 50k deaths and 250k casesJun 10 22:50
DaemonFC[m]The figure is only 2% overall when you consider everyone who gets it, even though like 99.5% of people under 50 end up living.Jun 10 22:50
XRevan86psydroid: Hah, it does.Jun 10 22:50
schestowitzso I think there are severe anomalies in how countries countJun 10 22:50
schestowitzdepending on how dishonest the regimes areJun 10 22:50
schestowitztrump tried to game cdc to play the numbers downJun 10 22:51
MinceRdefinitelyJun 10 22:51
MinceRthe hungarian government even avoids testingJun 10 22:51
schestowitzlolJun 10 22:51
MinceRto keep the numbers lowJun 10 22:51
schestowitzlike bolsonaro at the startJun 10 22:51
*XRevan86 is not going to start on Russia.Jun 10 22:51
DaemonFC[m]So when you consider that it ends up killing like triple the overall rate when you're over 60, you see why there were shutdowns, and why Republicans were too stupid to appreciate the attempt to save their lives.Jun 10 22:51
AriadneRussia is Russia.  I just assume it's fuckoJun 10 22:51
schestowitzrussia now reports over 200 deaths per dayJun 10 22:51
MinceRthe talking head in the operative superactiongroup who's allegedly a "doctor" said "you can't stop an epidemic with testing" as the excuseJun 10 22:51
schestowitzbut the parade is comingJun 10 22:51
XRevan86Pretty much because any opinion that contradicts the officials or goes further is considered fake news.Jun 10 22:52
schestowitzregardless, except in cities where covid is spreading widely and fastJun 10 22:52
schestowitzand worse than china, in russia the physicians get thrown out of windows for speaking outJun 10 22:52
schestowitziirc, 3 of them last I checkedJun 10 22:52
MinceRthey should have started jumping to their deaths earlierJun 10 22:52
XRevan86schestowitz: Not only the parade, the plebiscite too.Jun 10 22:52
MinceRthat way, they'd have nets now!Jun 10 22:53
MinceRlike foxconn.Jun 10 22:53
schestowitzeach time I hear about people 'falling' from windows it's EPO or RussiaJun 10 22:53
DaemonFC[m]So if they just act like a bunch of assholes about it, then to hell with them I guess. What was even the point?They're right because they're the reason the shutdown was pointless.Jun 10 22:53
schestowitzMinceR: are there safety nets in case the nets fail?Jun 10 22:53
MinceRlolJun 10 22:53
MinceRunlikelyJun 10 22:53
MinceRthose would cost extra moneyJun 10 22:53
schestowitzI saw these in BerlinJun 10 22:54
schestowitzthe department stores had nets Jun 10 22:54
Ariadneopen sourcing my gender transition means I should share screencaps of FetLife DMs from stupid menJun 10 22:54
XRevan86The plebiscite is extremely important to them, so of course they're not going to postpone it further no matter what happens.Jun 10 22:54
schestowitzso I assume some really dumb germans decided to "make a run for it" near the escalators... then splat... all over the perfumes departmentJun 10 22:54
MinceRhttps://imgur.com/gallery/aNQahLNJun 10 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mildly funny yard signs - Album on ImgurJun 10 22:55
schestowitzXRevan86: I don't like the new Meduza editorJun 10 22:55
Ariadnelets just say typical men get very rapey when trying to hit on women and transwomenJun 10 22:55
schestowitzand it seems like they're controlled using fear by the regimeJun 10 22:55
schestowitzsome stories to that effect hinted at it latelyJun 10 22:55
schestowitzand they played along with false narratives like covid slow-downJun 10 22:55
schestowitzeven when the numbers objectively did not support thatJun 10 22:56
XRevan86schestowitz: The numbers do support that. However, they are pretty strange.Jun 10 22:57
XRevan86It's like they're capped at 10kJun 10 22:57
schestowitzpace of cases per day?Jun 10 22:57
XRevan86yesJun 10 22:57
schestowitz1,183 death in brazil today https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countriesJun 10 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldometers.info | Coronavirus Update (Live): 7,436,958 Cases and 417,861 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - WorldometerJun 10 22:58
schestowitzphew at least uk won't be #2 for longJun 10 22:58
schestowitzwow, 30,332 new cases in brazilJun 10 22:59
schestowitzthey might hit 100k before too long...Jun 10 22:59
schestowitzdeaths I meanJun 10 22:59
schestowitztrump and bolsonaro 'winnng'Jun 10 22:59
schestowitzthe yugest numbas'Jun 10 23:00
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schestowitzchina reports only 3 new cases, but I never believe themJun 10 23:00
schestowitzlots of way it can enter from the back doors, inc. illegal immigrants from all directionsJun 10 23:01
DaemonFC[m]Fascists (Republicans) don't care what you did when you worked our how much you paid in taxes.Jun 10 23:03
DaemonFC[m]When you collect Social Security, you're basically just more scum on welfare to them.Jun 10 23:03
DaemonFC[m]So that does explain why Trump wants massive cuts to Social Security and Medicare.Jun 10 23:03
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: mintCast, Linux in the Ham Shack and LINUX Unplugged http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138618 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7f5ced22-d53e-4808-aa49-2fd8604669b0]Jun 10 23:03
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu: OpenZFS, Ubuntu Certification Program and Migrating to Latest LTS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138619 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f8f6ccf7-3b58-4d7c-b784-29ee7cc62efc]Jun 10 23:06
XRevan86Ariadne: On fetish sites?Jun 10 23:07
AriadneyesJun 10 23:07
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Second Debian Med COVID-19 hackathon (June 15-21, 2020) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138620 [https://pleroma.site/objects/29e9108c-cb86-4103-bdb7-b5823b756d5d]Jun 10 23:09
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics: Sienna Cichlid, Mesa and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138621 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e495b08d-7f9f-4699-b8a9-737ec36e8b3e]Jun 10 23:14
MinceR(cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/04/28/39f2fc749eacea6c.jpgJun 10 23:19
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSS Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138623 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ba45e735-6788-4edc-b6a2-6243ae7897cc]Jun 10 23:31
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: New FreeBSD code of conduct http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138624 [https://pleroma.site/objects/63201089-46b7-4366-bc8c-c99e6dc6ad7d]Jun 10 23:36
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Back End: DCs in Lockdown, Kubernetes in War and Databases http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138625 [https://pleroma.site/objects/abfa7f71-aac3-4dc0-9a05-73d1a50e2696]Jun 10 23:42
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138626 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5f417cc6-9501-4786-aa80-8df0adfc0290]Jun 10 23:44
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