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schestowitz | 57k more US cases... | Jul 10 00:15 |
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schestowitz | maybe a few more thousands by 2am | Jul 10 00:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | They started doing those Trumpy Bear TV commercials again. | Jul 10 00:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | They probably have a warehouse full of them and they need to get rid of them quickly. | Jul 10 00:17 |
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MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20022417 | Jul 10 00:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4381046) | Jul 10 00:38 | |
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schestowitz | MinceR: master teachers? | Jul 10 00:56 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: 60k+ again | Jul 10 00:56 |
MinceR | schestowitz: Assholé Academy! | Jul 10 01:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | I'm setting up NoScript. | Jul 10 01:03 |
schestowitz | MinceR: ahh | Jul 10 01:09 |
schestowitz | masters say take pants down | Jul 10 01:09 |
MinceR | the master baiters | Jul 10 01:10 |
XRevan86 | RESTful school academy | Jul 10 01:10 |
XRevan86 | GNU Make is a growing cloud-based Project Management software. GNU Make price: Starting from $49 per month | Jul 10 01:16 |
XRevan86 | https://www.itqlick.com/compare/gnu-make/adobe-air-adobe-integrated-runtime how did they even make this up | Jul 10 01:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GNU Make vs Adobe AIR Comparison | ITQlick | Jul 10 01:16 | |
schestowitz | MinceR: wait, now they want to cancel the term "mastur" too? | Jul 10 01:19 |
MinceR | lol | Jul 10 01:19 |
schestowitz | master-baiting monkeys | Jul 10 01:19 |
MinceR | pajero | Jul 10 01:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | After I got a whiff of that Reddit fingerprinter, I decided it would be best to just allow scripts that are the bare minimum to make the site I'm on work. | Jul 10 01:24 |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: +61,049 | Jul 10 01:25 |
schestowitz | halg an hour to go | Jul 10 01:25 |
schestowitz | *half | Jul 10 01:25 |
MinceR | uMatrix might be a better choice, as it keeps per-site (per-domain?) whitelists | Jul 10 01:25 |
schestowitz | +11,394 #covid19 cases in Texas today | Jul 10 01:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | There's a chance that something nasty gets loaded that way, but it's a far lower one. | Jul 10 01:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, they didn't "corral" it very well, I guess. | Jul 10 01:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | Hey, at least they exempted churches from the masks. | Jul 10 01:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | Darwinism in action. | Jul 10 01:26 |
schestowitz | I have this thing in my throat right now | Jul 10 01:26 |
schestowitz | I was at a Chinese restaurant 8 hours ago | Jul 10 01:26 |
schestowitz | I think it's way too early to suspect infection | Jul 10 01:27 |
schestowitz | so I'd just call it coincidence, it's mostly a phloem thing anyway | Jul 10 01:27 |
schestowitz | We paid almost 30% tip (I paid) | Jul 10 01:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | Uh, no. You'd need about 7-14 days for any symptoms. | Jul 10 01:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | I think you're just being paranoid. :) | Jul 10 01:27 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: it's like Luzon... with too many people unemployed, so they just walk around, serving too few clients | Jul 10 01:28 |
schestowitz | as otherwise they'd be out of work anyway | Jul 10 01:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. I might go to the Chinese place over by Walmart soon if they're open. | Jul 10 01:28 |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: yes, thanks for the reassurance | Jul 10 01:28 |
schestowitz | Chinese are more conscious of these things | Jul 10 01:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's a big dining area. More than enough for several tables between each guest. | Jul 10 01:28 |
schestowitz | masks and al | Jul 10 01:28 |
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schestowitz | typical Brits don't wear masks and all that... maybe arrogance or presumption of superior immunity | Jul 10 01:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Someone broke into my Disney account from an IP address belonging to Private Internet Access. | Jul 10 01:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | I don't know why. It said they logged into ESPN. | Jul 10 01:29 |
schestowitz | they use paper maps and all, and the dishes are served differently, so it felt like they knew what they were doing | Jul 10 01:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | I have no payment methods associated and I'm not subscribed to anything. | Jul 10 01:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | But I scrambled to change the password and then throw them out and shut down the account. | Jul 10 01:30 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: no harm I guess | Jul 10 01:30 |
schestowitz | unless they binge-buy something | Jul 10 01:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | Then I noticed that some botnet or something is banging on my outlook mail. | Jul 10 01:30 |
schestowitz | disney+ is drm | Jul 10 01:30 |
schestowitz | no need to use that | Jul 10 01:30 |
schestowitz | you can get loads of stuff streamed for free | Jul 10 01:31 |
schestowitz | and legally, too | Jul 10 01:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | According to Microsoft, none of it succeeded, but they've been making several attempts per day from IPs all over the world. | Jul 10 01:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | Getting the password wrong. | Jul 10 01:31 |
schestowitz | we watch lots of Savannah videos | Jul 10 01:31 |
schestowitz | you ought not use Outlook, either | Jul 10 01:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | I have no idea what's going on, but I used a randomly generated Firefox password to replace the one that was on the account. I had 2Fa on. | Jul 10 01:31 |
schestowitz | you seem to be choosing to have trouble | Jul 10 01:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I shut down my Firefox sync account and brought up a new one tied to my GMail. | Jul 10 01:31 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: maybe your work on the docs LOL ;-) | Jul 10 01:31 |
schestowitz | GMail is bad also | Jul 10 01:32 |
schestowitz | you really need to just report on those things | Jul 10 01:32 |
schestowitz | and not from accounts that watch you as you go along investigating them | Jul 10 01:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | Then I kicked all my trusted devices on both emails, reset app passwords and backup codes, and randomly generated a new GMail password. | Jul 10 01:32 |
schestowitz | even public-logged irc is safer than gmail :-) | Jul 10 01:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | I also changed all of my banking passwords to new random ones. | Jul 10 01:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | I'm trying to make it so that if something got compromised, the damage is walled off from anything important and it only works on what got hit. | Jul 10 01:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | The problem with passwords you easily remember is that you'll use them over and over and then someone breaks into Reddit or something and has access to your email accounts and banking. | Jul 10 01:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | So, you know, you're trying to make it so much work for so little gain that they give up and go hack some old lady in Scranton. | Jul 10 01:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Jul 10 01:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Supreme Court gave half of Oklahoma back to native Americans. | Jul 10 01:37 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Then they handed Trump's taxes to House Democrats and the state of New York! | Jul 10 01:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | :D | Jul 10 01:38 |
schestowitz | tax return forms? | Jul 10 01:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | They've been on a trolling spree. | Jul 10 01:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | Did someone slip Gorsuch some LSD or something? | Jul 10 01:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | He hasn't been acting like himself. | Jul 10 01:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | Wow. | Jul 10 01:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | Like, half a state is not a state anymore. | Jul 10 01:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | This is.....I never would have guessed this would happen. | Jul 10 01:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/09/us/supreme-court-oklahoma-mcgirt-creek-nation.html | Jul 10 01:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Landmark Supreme Court Ruling Affirms Native American Rights in Oklahoma - The New York Times | Jul 10 01:40 | |
*schestowitz adds it to Daily Links | Jul 10 01:42 | |
DaemonFC[m] | They reinstated a treaty that the US government broke in the 1800s to steal Indian land. | Jul 10 01:42 |
schestowitz | Native | Jul 10 01:43 |
schestowitz | India is far away | Jul 10 01:43 |
MinceR | amerindian :> | Jul 10 01:43 |
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schestowitz | 2am | Jul 10 02:04 |
schestowitz | +61,067 us cases | Jul 10 02:04 |
schestowitz | slightly higher than last time I checked | Jul 10 02:04 |
schestowitz | second-highest overall | Jul 10 02:04 |
schestowitz | MinceR: the amerindian genocide | Jul 10 02:08 |
schestowitz | sounds like armenian | Jul 10 02:08 |
schestowitz | and it's also a genocide | Jul 10 02:08 |
schestowitz | 90% death | Jul 10 02:08 |
schestowitz | mostly due to health/infection issues | Jul 10 02:09 |
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MinceR | :> | Jul 10 02:09 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I'm trying to figure out how to revoke a permission to a flatpak app.I don't want VLC to be able to have network access.It already is sandboxed by bubblewrap (nice).Codecs are awful. If there's a way to wall off VLC from the internet and make it so that an attempt to force it to do something bad only results in an application crash, that's just...really cool. | Jul 10 03:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | I'm trying to sandbox and harden some of the apps that I have so that they wouldn't be particularly useful to attackers. | Jul 10 03:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | In the case of bwrap, it's basically something for nothing. It enforces boundaries on the application without a drag on performance. | Jul 10 03:25 |
schestowitz | "Communist parties would start to form in certain countries after 1917." | Jul 10 03:27 |
schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Revolution#Anti-Bolshevik_sentiment | Jul 10 03:27 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | October Revolution - Wikipedia | Jul 10 03:27 | |
schestowitz | now we have the opposite | Jul 10 03:28 |
schestowitz | corporatist parties | Jul 10 03:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, those fucking morons that gave us Trump are getting the worst of COVID-19. | Jul 10 03:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | If we have to have a million people die of it, I'd rather it be before the election so they can't fuck us with Trump again before they die a few months later. | Jul 10 03:28 |
schestowitz | "SAD!" | Jul 10 03:30 |
schestowitz | sadist | Jul 10 03:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | Well, I'm just calling it how I see it. | Jul 10 03:30 |
schestowitz | FL +8,935 | Jul 10 03:30 |
schestowitz | GOP afaik | Jul 10 03:30 |
schestowitz | scott and successors | Jul 10 03:30 |
schestowitz | Texas | Jul 10 03:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's nice to see the shit raining down on the fuckers who did it for a change. | Jul 10 03:30 |
schestowitz | Calif. | Jul 10 03:30 |
schestowitz | AZ 4000+ | Jul 10 03:31 |
schestowitz | the more dem-leaning states and esp. green don't have this issue | Jul 10 03:31 |
schestowitz | I guess they're more susceptible to - gasp - accepting the science | Jul 10 03:31 |
schestowitz | maybe build a wall... | Jul 10 03:31 |
schestowitz | between red and blue states | Jul 10 03:32 |
schestowitz | or "bible belt" | Jul 10 03:32 |
schestowitz | let the anti-vaxxers die among themselves | Jul 10 03:32 |
schestowitz | with their guns and stuff | Jul 10 03:32 |
schestowitz | death toll can easily reach 200k if not 250k by election day | Jul 10 03:32 |
schestowitz | then play back videos where the orange man said 60k, 40k and so on... going back in time | Jul 10 03:33 |
schestowitz | he had the "biggest" SAT numbers | Jul 10 03:33 |
schestowitz | for which he paid the "biggest" money | Jul 10 03:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Buy Bull Belt. | Jul 10 03:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | Mom ran for the hills when her church reopened and afaik she's the only one of them that didn't get it. | Jul 10 03:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimizely | Jul 10 03:42 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Optimizely - Wikipedia | Jul 10 03:42 | |
DaemonFC[m] | I see this kind of shit on a lot of sites now | Jul 10 03:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | Blocking these sorts of things from running at all actually speeds the site up a lot. | Jul 10 03:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | Paywalls don't load. Autoplay videos are gone. | Jul 10 03:43 |
kingoffrance | they like the catchy marketing names https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over-the-top_media_service lol | Jul 10 03:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Over-the-top media service - Wikipedia | Jul 10 03:57 | |
kingoffrance | linked from that optimizely | Jul 10 03:57 |
kingoffrance | ppl say coders cant name stuff | Jul 10 03:57 |
kingoffrance | do they not know how ridiculous they appear to the rest of the world | Jul 10 03:58 |
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pav5088__ | schestowitz, sure, there are Trump anti-vaxxers, but apparently the biggest anti-vaxxers and corporate conspiracists belong to the corporate management class themselves. | Jul 10 04:03 |
pav5088__ | One wonders why that is. | Jul 10 04:04 |
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pav5088__ | The US electorate has been thrashing between right and left "outsiders"... Trump sucks, and Joe Biden is largely the same policy-wise ie. law and order, tax cuts, foreign intervention. | Jul 10 04:05 |
pav5088__ | The left failed under Obama... so they tried Trump... also a failure. | Jul 10 04:06 |
pav5088__ | The US isn't strange though... eg. Sweden has been on a privatisation drive for over a decade. Their public health rose in price to be one of the highest in Western Europe, while having the second lowest number of beds per head. | Jul 10 04:10 |
pav5088__ | Even before Covid they were flying mothers to Finland to give birth because they didn't have enough beds. One wonders if they tried herd immunity so their voters couldn't compare their healthcare apples-to-apples. | Jul 10 04:12 |
kingoffrance | "the left failed under Obama... so they tried Trump..." <-- this | Jul 10 04:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | Okay, I figured out what was making my videos lag in the Firefox Flatpak. | Jul 10 04:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | It uses that horrible piece of shit openh264 codec by default. | Jul 10 04:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | Disabling that and putting in ffmpeg-full fixes it. | Jul 10 04:14 |
pav5088__ | DaemonFC[m], is it due to your hardware not supporting h264 in hardware? It's a pretty heavy codec to handle in software. | Jul 10 04:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | openh264 seems to not have hardware acceleration. | Jul 10 04:19 |
pav5088__ | The latest Raspberry Pi seems to handle it fine. | Jul 10 04:20 |
pav5088__ | ack... brainfart... Pi4 supports h265 in hardware | Jul 10 04:24 |
pav5088__ | Is the openh264 vs ffmpeg because of MIT vs LGPL? | Jul 10 04:29 |
pav5088__ | BSD licensed | Jul 10 04:32 |
pav5088__ | Spoke to a guy from Amazon the other day... they are SERIOUSLY GPL-allergic... | Jul 10 04:33 |
schestowitz | they are | Jul 10 04:33 |
schestowitz | they hire people like mac asay | Jul 10 04:33 |
schestowitz | they just use freesw as cheap commodity | Jul 10 04:33 |
schestowitz | giving lots back is not on their mind | Jul 10 04:34 |
schestowitz | they treat is like "Commons" | Jul 10 04:34 |
schestowitz | "it's just there" | Jul 10 04:34 |
pav5088__ | Annoying. | Jul 10 04:36 |
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Pav5088 | I watched a primer on a political philosopher the other day (Unger 101, the politics of Roberto Mangabiera Unger) on YouTube the other day... It was like he was talking about the Free Software Movement without actually using the name. | Jul 10 04:40 |
kingoffrance | yes, i never liked trying to "shame" big corps into "contributing" but it blows my mind that they e.g. use linux all over the place, but seemingly make zero effort to support it | Jul 10 04:41 |
Pav5088 | I have a feeling the Free Software Movement, and movements using similar methods have a potential to become VERY relevant to the mainstream. | Jul 10 04:41 |
kingoffrance | i mean, they will just say "we are following the contract, whats the problem" | Jul 10 04:41 |
kingoffrance | like the openssl thing perhaps too | Jul 10 04:41 |
kingoffrance | so many ppl depended on it | Jul 10 04:42 |
kingoffrance | e.g. so many lamp stacks | Jul 10 04:42 |
schestowitz | linux apache mysql ProprietarySoftware | Jul 10 04:43 |
schestowitz | :-) | Jul 10 04:43 |
kingoffrance | thats not wrong | Jul 10 04:43 |
kingoffrance | that actually i think is very related | Jul 10 04:43 |
Pav5088 | I saw a Debian guy talking about BSD vs GPL... and he seems to think the I.T world is being gaslit... he checked the numbers and GPL quite popular... even GPL3 | Jul 10 04:43 |
kingoffrance | they build propietary stuff on top | Jul 10 04:43 |
kingoffrance | tehy dont really want to "integrate" at lower level | Jul 10 04:43 |
schestowitz | Pav5088: Microsoft pays a bunch of companies to claim otherwise | Jul 10 04:43 |
schestowitz | and github is being used in the anti-gpl coup | Jul 10 04:44 |
schestowitz | even blatantly | Jul 10 04:44 |
schestowitz | maybe this is why gafam seems generally supportive of github | Jul 10 04:44 |
schestowitz | they think alike | Jul 10 04:44 |
Pav5088 | schestowitz, how does github come into it? Have any links to info? | Jul 10 04:44 |
schestowitz | yes, we wrote about it | Jul 10 04:45 |
schestowitz | techrights has a lot on it | Jul 10 04:45 |
schestowitz | source: rms | Jul 10 04:45 |
schestowitz | also microsoft managers | Jul 10 04:45 |
schestowitz | they direct people to non-copyleft | Jul 10 04:45 |
kingoffrance | its not a matter of "community good will" to me so much as "dont shoot yourself in the foot, if you depend on something, make sure someone is maintaining it" its just simple business logic to me | Jul 10 04:45 |
kingoffrance | like make sure you have a good supplier for parts or whatever | Jul 10 04:45 |
schestowitz | also, in general, they use their 'studies' (that only count MSFT-controlled stuff) to claim gpl diminishes | Jul 10 04:45 |
kingoffrance | it doesnt have to be political or freedom-related even | Jul 10 04:46 |
kingoffrance | thats why it blows my mind | Jul 10 04:46 |
kingoffrance | if you're a restaurant, it is in your best interest your ingredients/whatever supplier stays in business | Jul 10 04:46 |
kingoffrance | its YOUR survival too | Jul 10 04:47 |
Pav5088 | schestowitz, will look into it | Jul 10 04:49 |
Pav5088 | There's a Free Software group in my city... but it seems to be inactive. And when I called for an informal meeting I got shilled by an Amazon guy. | Jul 10 04:50 |
Pav5088 | It was a bit strange. | Jul 10 04:51 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I laughed so hard I almost choked when I was reading a commit log for sddm."systemd makes it more likely that multiple graphical logins will explode" | Jul 10 05:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | systemd makes the system more likely to explode in general | Jul 10 05:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | "Sure it explodes occasionally, but it keeps perfect time!" | Jul 10 05:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | Someday I hope to have a 64 core Intel CPU with hyperthreading so I can run two copies of GNOME Clocks. | Jul 10 05:32 |
CrystalMath | this is why i'm switching to slackware | Jul 10 05:34 |
*psydread will probably never have a 64-core Intel CPU with hyperthreading so will sadly never be able to run even one instance of GNOME Clocks in its full glory, let alone two | Jul 10 05:34 | |
CrystalMath | xclock <3 | Jul 10 05:35 |
CrystalMath | i have an xclock with a transparent background on my desktop | Jul 10 05:35 |
CrystalMath | yes this magic was enabled with the backgroundPixmap property and cropping the wallpaper ;P | Jul 10 05:35 |
CrystalMath | i wrote a script to do it | Jul 10 05:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | I might just settle on Debian eventually. I'm sure with Flatpak it's nowhere near as painful as it used to be. | Jul 10 05:37 |
CrystalMath | flatpak? | Jul 10 05:37 |
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CrystalMath | hmm.... | Jul 10 05:40 |
CrystalMath | it looks systemd-dependent, so, crappy | Jul 10 05:40 |
CrystalMath | i'll stick to firejail | Jul 10 05:40 |
CrystalMath | it's more efficient anyway | Jul 10 05:40 |
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superkuh | All containerization is the same thing. It's the fever to the sickness that is no backwards compatibility beyond 5 years. The extremely fast pace of new features in c++$year, glibc, etc, and devs using them means you can't run something written today on a 5 year old distro. | Jul 10 07:15 |
insmodppa | You can't run it on something 5 months in the future, either. | Jul 10 07:15 |
superkuh | It's future shock. | Jul 10 07:15 |
superkuh | Lets all just compile everything static. | Jul 10 07:15 |
superkuh | Containers try to do the same and end up with magnitudes more complexity and less performance. | Jul 10 07:16 |
kingoffrance | well thats the first time i heard someone say such...usually its just me | Jul 10 07:29 |
kingoffrance | i think its all the scripting langauges too, each have their own package managers...i mean, i dont expect them all to "integrate" with os | Jul 10 07:30 |
kingoffrance | but containers seems to me like "dont fix actual problems or integrate properly" | Jul 10 07:30 |
kingoffrance | like that was the reason they came to be | Jul 10 07:30 |
kingoffrance | to avoid fixing stuff | Jul 10 07:30 |
kingoffrance | and at least in past, they didnt have best security eitehr | Jul 10 07:30 |
kingoffrance | so claiming that would be retroactive revision IMO | Jul 10 07:31 |
kingoffrance | they always struck me as a "good enough" thing | Jul 10 07:31 |
kingoffrance | technical debt building up | Jul 10 07:31 |
kingoffrance | people who want to get web apps up ASAP | Jul 10 07:32 |
kingoffrance | which is fine -- but if you need multiple conflicting versions of language x -- then why not make it so that is not a problem? fix the real issue | Jul 10 07:33 |
kingoffrance | and some of those things ran everything as root | Jul 10 07:34 |
kingoffrance | so its just lazyness | Jul 10 07:35 |
kingoffrance | just throw it in a container because i dont have time to not run as root | Jul 10 07:35 |
kingoffrance | i guess it struck me odd too, they seem to have showed up after virtualization | Jul 10 07:36 |
kingoffrance | so they are supposed to be faster? even with hardware-assisted? | Jul 10 07:37 |
kingoffrance | i guess it seemed to me good practice different daemons run as different users, so you were supposed to be "containering" things anyways normally | Jul 10 07:39 |
kingoffrance | but if your app was running everything as root i guess you didnt bother | Jul 10 07:40 |
kingoffrance | plus with puppet + chef + all those type things | Jul 10 07:44 |
kingoffrance | i thought those would ensure you had a "stable" env. or whatever | Jul 10 07:45 |
kingoffrance | that the correct versions of stuff was isntalled correctly | Jul 10 07:45 |
kingoffrance | they arent mutually exclusive i guess, but ... | Jul 10 07:46 |
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*Now talking on #techrights | Jul 10 10:14 | |
*Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Jul 10 10:14 | |
*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jul 10 10:14 | |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: How to Upgrade to Linux Mint 20 from Linux Mint 19.3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139723 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2bc81e4c-818e-4502-98c1-9b4c72c93477] | Jul 10 10:55 | |
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Google partners with Ubuntu to bring Flutter apps to Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139660#comment-25755 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0a337d0d-fd33-4449-a474-db6b0321ea4e] | Jul 10 11:00 | |
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MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20022258 | Jul 10 12:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4377814) | Jul 10 12:32 | |
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MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/2002244 | Jul 10 13:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4380890) | Jul 10 13:45 | |
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MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/xQvaF29.jpg | Jul 10 14:36 |
schestowitz | dir /god | Jul 10 14:45 |
schestowitz | deltree /god | Jul 10 14:46 |
MinceR | http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2845 | Jul 10 14:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scp-wiki.net | SCP-2845 - SCP Foundation | Jul 10 14:47 | |
scientes | MinceR, WWTTTTFFFF | Jul 10 14:58 |
MinceR | deer god. | Jul 10 15:00 |
MinceR | or, as it was listed, "THE DEER" | Jul 10 15:00 |
MinceR | (audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/04/26/f0ab771257426ca4.mp4 | Jul 10 15:24 |
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139736 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c984ffc4-9ddf-4f8a-a2e7-736675f0d273] | Jul 10 16:43 | |
MinceR | oh, even windows XP was named after a disease >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeroderma_pigmentosum | Jul 10 16:59 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Xeroderma pigmentosum - Wikipedia | Jul 10 16:59 | |
MinceR | (like Pinta and Mono, and bìng after disease in general) | Jul 10 17:00 |
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schestowitz | MinceR: no, the disease is named after Windows | Jul 10 17:19 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 10/7/2020: Wayland-Info, diffoscope 151 and Tor 0.4.4.2-alpha http://techrights.org/2020/07/10/wayland-info/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/6428e543-f31e-4918-9791-e1c7ede1695f] | Jul 10 17:19 | |
MinceR | :> | Jul 10 17:20 |
DaemonFC[m] | Well, a UPS driver dumped Mandy's meds and left and they got stolen. | Jul 10 18:13 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Then when I complained, the guy told me to go fuck myself. | Jul 10 18:21 |
DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Fuck me? No, FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!". | Jul 10 18:21 |
DaemonFC[m] | It turned into a shouting match in the parking lot. | Jul 10 18:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | The guy working at the front desk asked me what that was all about. I said, "That UPS driver told me to go fuck myself. Can you believe that?". | Jul 10 18:22 |
MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlJtohZSsfY | Jul 10 18:27 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Someone needs to tell Florida that this is never going to heal if you don't stop picking. | Jul 10 18:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | If the Republican plan to win the election is kill 20,000 more old voters in Florida before Election Day....mission accomplished. | Jul 10 18:42 |
MinceR | (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/vyUf7vO.mp4 | Jul 10 18:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | This is insane. This is something straight out of a Bill Hicks routine. Where he was mocking conservative Christians for saying there was Satanic stuff in music. | Jul 10 18:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | "Satan's standing outside Radio Shack every Monday morning going 'WHAT NEW THINGS DO YOU HAVE FOR ME TODAY!?'". | Jul 10 18:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | (Radio Shack filed bankruptcy years ago but that joke could easily be updated.) | Jul 10 18:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | "People playing records backwards.....Don't destroy my HiFi system to prove a point.....". | Jul 10 18:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | "RHEEEEEEEET! 'You hear that? Satan is lord!? It's like he's right there in the room with you!'" | Jul 10 18:45 |
MinceR | "if you play a windows cd backwards, you can hear a satanic message. but that's nothing! if you play it forward, it installs windows!" | Jul 10 18:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | "Two fans of Judas Priest killed themselves. Did you read about that? Uh, wow....Two fans of Judas Priest commit suicide.....Two less gas station attendants in the world.....Am I right?". | Jul 10 18:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | "Then the family members sued the band, Judas Priest. Here's something that didn't come up at the trial....which, by the way, they had. WHAT.....fucking band, wants their customers dead!? I don't get the long term gain here!" | Jul 10 18:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's a big problem. Anyone can sue anyone. | Jul 10 18:54 |
DaemonFC[m] | The way it works is that if you don't respond to being sued, the court is likely to deem that every single thing in the complaint is true and give them a default ruling. | Jul 10 18:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | Many states have anti-SLAPP laws that make the danger of this thing exploding on you higher if you use their courts, but the rich can just shop around for a state with an inferior legal system, show that one party has a "nexus" there, and sue you there. | Jul 10 18:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | So every state that passes anti-SLAPP makes it harder, but if there are any that haven't, the danger is still out there. | Jul 10 18:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | Court have recently taken a stronger stance against being abused this way, so things have gotten a little better. | Jul 10 18:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | Unfortunately, it's still pretty easy. If I'm a patent troll looking to sue somebody, obviously I'll incorporate in Texas and do the suing in a federal court down there. | Jul 10 18:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: That Bob Murray guy is a real piece of work. | Jul 10 18:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | Made his office secretary get down on the floor and go searching for a kidney stone that he fished out of the toilet and then dropped. | Jul 10 18:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | While screaming "FIND IT! FIND IT!". | Jul 10 19:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | Then he did some kind of "bonus" program for his coal workers, where one guy got a bonus check for $3.87. | Jul 10 19:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | So the guy wrote "Eat Shit, Bob! in the memo and sent it back. | Jul 10 19:00 |
MinceR | lol | Jul 10 19:01 |
DaemonFC[m] | So Bob Murray filed a lawsuit against him for suggesting that he eat shit. | Jul 10 19:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's technically illegal to tell someone fuck you on the phone. | Jul 10 19:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | Or in a letter. | Jul 10 19:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | So I suppose telling someone to eat shit in a letter is against the law. | Jul 10 19:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | It just doesn't get used that much. | Jul 10 19:03 |
MinceR | what happened to the first amendment? | Jul 10 19:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's been chipped down to nothing in the name of politeness. | Jul 10 19:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | I told UPS "Fuck you people." on the phone. | Jul 10 19:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | I mean, like, eh. | Jul 10 19:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | They misdelivered life saving medication and then said it was a whole bunch of not their problem and were shoving me off the phone. | Jul 10 19:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | So I finally became exasperated. | Jul 10 19:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | So I called CVS in California from the number that they provided in the shipping info and they said, "Oh this happens with UPS all the time where they misdeliever meds. I can just overnight some to the nearest pharmacy if you want. We won't bill your insurance again.". | Jul 10 19:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | Because this is America, I was losing my shit figuring that since this medication is costlyand the insurance already covered it once that there would just be no meds this month. | Jul 10 19:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's truly horrifying to live here, and a lot of people like my mom are just very resistant to change because they've had their brains scooped out and have been turned into stupid robots that repeat Fox News talking points. | Jul 10 19:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | COVID-19 has split the church people into two camps. | Jul 10 19:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | Like 70-75% of them probably know better but show up to save face and get the virus. | Jul 10 19:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | The rest just run for the hills because they're in no hurry to die even though they think things get better forever after you die. | Jul 10 19:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | You can't use logic here. So a fetus has a soul, and since it hasn't committed a sin if it is miscarried or aborted, it goes straight to heaven, | Jul 10 19:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | However, we need to be saved because even if we haven't sinned, we all have original sin, even though God would never judge us for something we didn't do, except when he does. | Jul 10 19:11 |
MinceR | lol | Jul 10 19:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | Also, if you are a vegetable trapped in your own body, you get a mulligan from having to confess your sins because God can read your mind. | Jul 10 19:12 |
MinceR | didn't "God" already sacrifice himself so that he'll forgive us for something that is not our responsibility? | Jul 10 19:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | However, if you can talk, God can't read your mind and you have to tell this priest everything. | Jul 10 19:13 |
MinceR | lol | Jul 10 19:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | Also, demons infest people's bodies and plant thoughts and make people do things, but they can't read your mind, because only God can read your mind. | Jul 10 19:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | But only if you're a vegetable. | Jul 10 19:14 |
CrystalMath | but god can also plant thoughts and make people do things | Jul 10 19:14 |
CrystalMath | but he refuses to do that | Jul 10 19:14 |
CrystalMath | except when he did it | Jul 10 19:14 |
CrystalMath | allegedly | Jul 10 19:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | Everyone has sinned and falls short of the glory of God, and all sins are equally bad. They can all be forgiven if you ask sincerely. | Jul 10 19:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | However, we're going to go out of our way to ignore the adultery going on in the church and bash gay people. | Jul 10 19:15 |
CrystalMath | some people hate homosexuals not because they're religious but because they just do | Jul 10 19:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | God doesn't hold a grudge, but at the same time if you've ever committed blasphemy, he won't forgive you no matter how sincere you are and you are condemned to Hell for all eternity and might as well just go do all sorts of horrible things really because it doesn't matter anymore. | Jul 10 19:16 |
CrystalMath | like i've seen this in atheist places | Jul 10 19:16 |
CrystalMath | they're also anti-LGBT | Jul 10 19:16 |
CrystalMath | even in this place (at the risk of sounding like an SJW) i've noticed people shaming men for using any kind of makeup | Jul 10 19:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | Satan is a well known Libertarian presidential candidate, and also likes Hillary Clinton. | Jul 10 19:17 |
MinceR | (cat) https://i.imgur.com/li09hQz.jpg | Jul 10 19:17 |
CrystalMath | yeah Clinton is the only thing we disagree on | Jul 10 19:17 |
CrystalMath | i tried to tell him that she's bad but he just won't listen, so i stopped dialing 666 | Jul 10 19:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | Satan is evil because of the whole do whatever you want as long as you aren't hurting anyone else thing. | Jul 10 19:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | That simply will not do. You must submit yourself to the state and the church! | Jul 10 19:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | Also, Satan is somehow more evil for having the "don't hurt anyone else" boundary while many high ranking priests and Republican men rape women and children and then tell us how evil everyone else is. | Jul 10 19:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | Consent is evil! You never ask for consent before doing something or you're an evil Satanist! | Jul 10 19:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | Only Satanists ask for consent! | Jul 10 19:20 |
DaemonFC[m] | The only true church is the one you're a member of. Until you change your mind and then the new church is right and everyone else is wrong. Repeat as necessary. (Mom) | Jul 10 19:21 |
CrystalMath | but that's mostly gen X / xennial christianity | Jul 10 19:21 |
CrystalMath | millenial christianity is more against the state | Jul 10 19:21 |
CrystalMath | the bible can be interpreted either way | Jul 10 19:21 |
DaemonFC[m] | Nobody likes the state, and if they do they're lying. | Jul 10 19:21 |
DaemonFC[m] | The state is not just sometimes tyrannical. The state is such a tyrant that the only time you might get a breather from it in a certain area is if a judge agrees with you. | Jul 10 19:22 |
MinceR | so what are the millennials doing to enforce separation of church and state? and where? | Jul 10 19:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's an exception, not the rule. The state will then inspect the judge's ruling and figure out whichever loopholes it can and change the law to oppress you as much as it can within the letter of the ruling. | Jul 10 19:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | <MinceR "so what are the millennials doin"> Well, not giving money to the church helps. | Jul 10 19:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | They lost a lot of subscribers to the Coronavirus. Much of it self-inflicted by trying to rush them back in to pump them one last time. | Jul 10 19:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Coronavirus is now the #1 cause of death in America since early April. | Jul 10 19:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's increasing deaths by about 10% over the normal daily amount, on average. | Jul 10 19:25 |
CrystalMath | but how? less than 1,000 die from it every day | Jul 10 19:25 |
CrystalMath | in the US, i mean | Jul 10 19:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | If you average in the days we were over 2,000 the average is still over 1,000. | Jul 10 19:26 |
MinceR | yeah, we need more lethal strains | Jul 10 19:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's on the upswing again, and so there will be more days over 1,000. | Jul 10 19:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | Which will keep the average up. | Jul 10 19:26 |
CrystalMath | 7,000 people die in the US every single day | Jul 10 19:27 |
CrystalMath | statistically | Jul 10 19:27 |
CrystalMath | give or take a few hundred | Jul 10 19:27 |
CrystalMath | today there was 415 deaths from COVID_19 | Jul 10 19:27 |
CrystalMath | that's 6% | Jul 10 19:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | So far that's what they report. | Jul 10 19:28 |
CrystalMath | what about the 94%? | Jul 10 19:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | They don't stop adding to that until like 8 PM CST. | Jul 10 19:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's 1:28 now. | Jul 10 19:28 |
CrystalMath | okay let's jump ahead and say 15% die from that | Jul 10 19:28 |
CrystalMath | that still leaves 85% dying of everything else | Jul 10 19:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | The media desperately needs this election to be a horse race even though Biden has a double digit lead nationally, and a lead in every swing state. | Jul 10 19:30 |
MinceR | they should nominate some horses, then | Jul 10 19:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | So they're just churning out articles as fast as they can. It's basically a content farm at this point. | Jul 10 19:31 |
CrystalMath | that makes no sense, Biden is stupid | Jul 10 19:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | CNN has articles on the same day that says Trump won't win and then here's how Trump can still win. | Jul 10 19:31 |
CrystalMath | i know people who will vote for Trump | Jul 10 19:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | Fox News polls have even been consistently bad for Trump. | Jul 10 19:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | So he attacks Fox News. | Jul 10 19:31 |
CrystalMath | i don't know a single person who flipped against Trump | Jul 10 19:32 |
MinceR | 10 203122 < CrystalMath> that makes no sense, Biden is stupid | Jul 10 19:34 |
MinceR | excellent match for twitler, then | Jul 10 19:34 |
CrystalMath | heh :P | Jul 10 19:34 |
MinceR | not so much for the country, though... | Jul 10 19:34 |
CrystalMath | to anyone voting for biden, do you really want a country that kneels before SJWs? | Jul 10 19:34 |
CrystalMath | voting for Biden is just like stabbing RMS right in the chest | Jul 10 19:35 |
CrystalMath | Trump has done a lot to improve the freedom of individuals in the US | Jul 10 19:36 |
MinceR | you're screwed either way | Jul 10 19:36 |
CrystalMath | he repealed laws that ban the sale of incandescent lightbulbs | Jul 10 19:36 |
MinceR | has he? | Jul 10 19:36 |
CrystalMath | he (at least tried!) to pull troops out of foreign countries | Jul 10 19:36 |
CrystalMath | and he pulled lots of troops out of syria | Jul 10 19:36 |
CrystalMath | he didn't want to enforce a lockdown, which again improves the freedom of the individual | Jul 10 19:38 |
CrystalMath | after all, any libertarian will tell you, you shouldn't forbid people from doing bad things to themselves | Jul 10 19:39 |
CrystalMath | no matter how bad | Jul 10 19:40 |
XRevan86 | and in some cases to other people | Jul 10 19:40 |
CrystalMath | nope, people were allowed to stay at home no matter what | Jul 10 19:40 |
CrystalMath | the government could have guaranteed that everyone has to OFFER a way to work from home | Jul 10 19:41 |
CrystalMath | without locking people in | Jul 10 19:41 |
CrystalMath | so those who want to live can stay inside | Jul 10 19:41 |
CrystalMath | those who want to risk can do whatever they want | Jul 10 19:41 |
CrystalMath | and then die maybe | Jul 10 19:41 |
CrystalMath | or not | Jul 10 19:41 |
MinceR | or they can be killed by the army | Jul 10 19:42 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: A big problem of that kind of thinking is that no one lives in a vacuum. There is no such thing has an independent individual. | Jul 10 19:42 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: why would you that? | Jul 10 19:42 |
MinceR | ask Agent Orange | Jul 10 19:42 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: like i told you, people who want to stay home should be allowed, and people should make sure that they can | Jul 10 19:42 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: so... you want to be safe? everyone will make sure that you have that option | Jul 10 19:43 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Any libertarian will tell you that their boss has the freedom to hire them. | Jul 10 19:43 |
XRevan86 | * fire | Jul 10 19:43 |
MinceR | in what state were people forbidden from leaving their homes? | Jul 10 19:43 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: well in Michigan they did stupid stuff | Jul 10 19:43 |
CrystalMath | and in Louisiana too | Jul 10 19:43 |
CrystalMath | in Michigan they banned the sale of fruits and vegetables | Jul 10 19:44 |
MinceR | doing stupid stuff seems to be the "hip" and "cool" thing to do nowadays | Jul 10 19:44 |
CrystalMath | this is a demonrat in power | Jul 10 19:44 |
CrystalMath | remember that, Michigan's governor is a demon-rat | Jul 10 19:44 |
CrystalMath | Indiana too | Jul 10 19:44 |
CrystalMath | they have a demon-rat who did something ridiculous, i know people had to get a court restraining order to be allowed to go wherever they want | Jul 10 19:45 |
CrystalMath | there was a "stay-at-home order" | Jul 10 19:45 |
MinceR | for everyone or for people known to be infected? | Jul 10 19:45 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: well, one can suspend that during a pandemic, it's better than stay-at-home orders of any kind | Jul 10 19:45 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: That is not the libertarian way either. | Jul 10 19:46 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: well the people who went to court were absolutely healthy | Jul 10 19:46 |
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CrystalMath | XRevan86: yeah but it's a better compromise | Jul 10 19:46 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: i'm not saying it should be done, i'm just saying that there's a million things better than "the lockdown" | Jul 10 19:46 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Reasonable action is always a better option than some ideological coo-coo shit | Jul 10 19:46 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: except it's not reasonable | Jul 10 19:47 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: I didn't specify | Jul 10 19:47 |
MinceR | XRevan86: isn't that an ideology? :> | Jul 10 19:47 |
CrystalMath | you can't escape from ideology | Jul 10 19:47 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Reasonable actions? | Jul 10 19:47 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: ultimately there is nothing objectively good | Jul 10 19:48 |
XRevan86 | May be so. | Jul 10 19:48 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: even saving lives is NOT objectively good | Jul 10 19:48 |
CrystalMath | not by any sense | Jul 10 19:48 |
CrystalMath | for example, you could save the life of the next Hitler | Jul 10 19:48 |
CrystalMath | or the next Jeffrey Dahmer | Jul 10 19:48 |
CrystalMath | who then goes on to kill 30, 300, 3,000 | Jul 10 19:48 |
MinceR | that would just be failing to save lives on the long term | Jul 10 19:48 |
MinceR | you could do worse | Jul 10 19:48 |
CrystalMath | yes but i'm just saying how ridiculous it is | Jul 10 19:48 |
CrystalMath | saving a life is not objectively good by any means | Jul 10 19:49 |
CrystalMath | it fails every test | Jul 10 19:49 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: But if something is justified by some broad ideology like libertarianism or communism, it's probably oversimplified bullshit. | Jul 10 19:49 |
CrystalMath | in fact, you could have more good arguments for ending *all* lives | Jul 10 19:49 |
CrystalMath | there's more good arguments that can withstand scrutiny for killing everyone, than for saving everyone | Jul 10 19:49 |
CrystalMath | in particular, sacrificing freedom in order to stay alive is the dumbest thing i could imagine | Jul 10 19:50 |
CrystalMath | what are you gonna do with that life you won? be a slave? | Jul 10 19:50 |
CrystalMath | it's better to die, really | Jul 10 19:50 |
MinceR | indeed | Jul 10 19:51 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Concentration camp survivors made a wrong choice? | Jul 10 19:51 |
CrystalMath | they made the harder choice | Jul 10 19:52 |
MinceR | what choice did they make? | Jul 10 19:52 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: survive | Jul 10 19:52 |
CrystalMath | some of them were scarred for life | Jul 10 19:52 |
CrystalMath | some never recoevered mentally from their inhumane treatment | Jul 10 19:53 |
CrystalMath | *recovered | Jul 10 19:53 |
MinceR | that treatment is humane indeed | Jul 10 19:53 |
MinceR | as in what humans generally tend to do | Jul 10 19:53 |
MinceR | XRevan86: did their captors ask them whether they want to be killed immediately, quickly and painlessly? | Jul 10 19:54 |
CrystalMath | staying indoors for some time to survive isn't a bad choice | Jul 10 19:54 |
CrystalMath | but letting people force you to? that's bad | Jul 10 19:55 |
CrystalMath | because if they can force you to do that, they won't stop there | Jul 10 19:55 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Instead of answeing that I'll say that I'm pretty sure most of them are glad they got out of it alive. | Jul 10 19:55 |
MinceR | sure, but that doesn't mean they're right | Jul 10 19:55 |
XRevan86 | and didn't have CrystalMath as a compassionate warden or somethign | Jul 10 19:55 |
MinceR | and also, usually not dependent on the choices they made | Jul 10 19:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | <CrystalMath "Indiana too"> Indiana's governor is a Republican. | Jul 10 19:59 |
CrystalMath | wait, Idaho the? | Jul 10 19:59 |
CrystalMath | *then | Jul 10 19:59 |
CrystalMath | where was that court thing | Jul 10 19:59 |
CrystalMath | Illinois!! | Jul 10 20:00 |
CrystalMath | i knew it started with an I | Jul 10 20:00 |
CrystalMath | Pritzker | Jul 10 20:01 |
CrystalMath | a demon-rat | Jul 10 20:01 |
CrystalMath | i'm not an american, so it shouldn't be a surprise that i can't remember the states | Jul 10 20:02 |
CrystalMath | i can probably remember them better than the average american anyway, at least their positions on the map :P | Jul 10 20:02 |
scientes | I can hardly remember the state of weather I have clothes on or not | Jul 10 20:03 |
CrystalMath | https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2020/4/27/21239029/downstate-judge-pritzker-bailey-stay-home-order-covid-19-coronavirus-clay-county | Jul 10 20:03 |
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CrystalMath | a good judge ruled against the demon rat's demonic rat order | Jul 10 20:04 |
MinceR | you da ho! | Jul 10 20:04 |
CrystalMath | when in doubt, kick the demon rat out | Jul 10 20:04 |
CrystalMath | you know that democrats are wrong on literally everything | Jul 10 20:05 |
CrystalMath | there's no moment when they get it right | Jul 10 20:05 |
scientes | so are aliens | Jul 10 20:05 |
CrystalMath | like they believed black slavery was a good thing, WRONG | Jul 10 20:05 |
CrystalMath | now they believe white slavery is a good thing, WRONG | Jul 10 20:05 |
CrystalMath | they believe that not treating people like cattle is insulting them, WRONG | Jul 10 20:06 |
MinceR | so when they believe somewhat less in forcing religion on people than "republican"s do, that's WRONG too? | Jul 10 20:07 |
CrystalMath | they merely believe in forcing a different religion | Jul 10 20:07 |
CrystalMath | that's all | Jul 10 20:07 |
CrystalMath | the republicans get it wrong too | Jul 10 20:07 |
MinceR | and here i thought they were both christians | Jul 10 20:07 |
CrystalMath | and what would that mean? there were wars between christians | Jul 10 20:07 |
CrystalMath | over religion | Jul 10 20:07 |
MinceR | shouldn't be surprising | Jul 10 20:08 |
MinceR | all abrahamic religions are built on stories of exterminating people over things like what god they worship or how they worship | Jul 10 20:08 |
CrystalMath | a centry ago, in the netherlands, catholics and protestants were quite separated, children were told not to play with children that are a different kind of christian, streets and entire areas had a uniform kind of christianity each, because they wouldn't live next to each other | Jul 10 20:11 |
CrystalMath | and of course all the conflicts in the war in croatia were between two kinds of christians | Jul 10 20:12 |
CrystalMath | but i mean, it's not that we atheists don't divide amongst ourselves as well | Jul 10 20:14 |
MinceR | and when "democrats" believe that children shouldn't be forced to born into a situation where they won't be loved and won't be taken cared of and into a world that is hell, that's WRONG too? | Jul 10 20:23 |
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MinceR | (cat) https://i.imgur.com/7KIOjf6.mp4 | Jul 10 20:49 |
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MinceR | "Vote the lesser of two evils! Skeletor 2020!" | Jul 10 20:51 |
CrystalMath | <@MinceR> and when "democrats" believe that children shouldn't be forced to born into a situation where they won't be loved and won't be taken cared of and into a world that is hell, that's WRONG too? <- they never believed that | Jul 10 20:56 |
CrystalMath | in fact, they're trying to do everything they can to make sure every american is born into hel | Jul 10 20:56 |
CrystalMath | *hell | Jul 10 20:56 |
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CrystalMath | a worse hell than they already ARE born into | Jul 10 20:57 |
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CrystalMath | would you choose to be born in a country where you get assaulted for wearing a MAGA hat? or when you get assaulted for not literally kneeling before minorities? | Jul 10 20:58 |
MinceR | so twitler and pants wanting to defund planned parenthood (among other things) means they're democrats after all? | Jul 10 20:59 |
CrystalMath | defunding != banning | Jul 10 21:02 |
CrystalMath | it can be crowdfunded to stay alive | Jul 10 21:03 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: also i said that republicans can be wrong too | Jul 10 21:06 |
CrystalMath | democrats believe people should be forced to pay for this stuff | Jul 10 21:06 |
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schestowitz | 52,185 new cases and 543 new deaths in the United States with 5 hours to go | Jul 10 21:16 |
schestowitz | another all-time record likely on the way | Jul 10 21:16 |
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schestowitz | [20:59] <MinceR> so twitler and pants wanting to defund planned parenthood (among other things) means they're democrats after all? | Jul 10 21:26 |
schestowitz | lol at Mike Pants | Jul 10 21:26 |
schestowitz | glad it has spread | Jul 10 21:26 |
schestowitz | "pants" has a special meaning here | Jul 10 21:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | Fuck | Jul 10 21:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | The check engine light came on in the car. | Jul 10 21:28 |
schestowitz | With 10 states (yes 10!) left to report, US new #covid19 cases count already at 53.2k. It's going to be over 60k today, maybe all-time high. | Jul 10 21:28 |
schestowitz | cool | Jul 10 21:28 |
schestowitz | throw the car away | Jul 10 21:28 |
schestowitz | get a new one | Jul 10 21:28 |
schestowitz | done | Jul 10 21:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | I'm at the shop. Hoping it's a sensor or something. | Jul 10 21:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | With an open bankruptcy? Unlikely. | Jul 10 21:28 |
schestowitz | check your sarcasm meter | Jul 10 21:28 |
schestowitz | that too isn't a sensor something :-) | Jul 10 21:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | Hah | Jul 10 21:29 |
schestowitz | Blame Hillary! | Jul 10 21:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | Eh, I don't like broken things. | Jul 10 21:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | Speaking of which, the old battlewagon laptop is back at home downloading Kubuntu. | Jul 10 21:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | Worth a try. Fedora has another one of those crazy sudo bugs happening right now. | Jul 10 21:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | I might park myself on something lts if it works. | Jul 10 21:36 |
schestowitz | how is the google piece coming along? | Jul 10 21:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | Oh god. The car. Someone stole Mandy's medicine. | Jul 10 21:37 |
schestowitz | even just (mostly) screenshots would do | Jul 10 21:37 |
schestowitz | why would someone steal medication? | Jul 10 21:37 |
schestowitz | it's not likely to be of use on the black market? | Jul 10 21:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's a box that the UPS guy left sitting kutside a motel. | Jul 10 21:38 |
schestowitz | +53,841 cases | Jul 10 21:38 |
schestowitz | FL +11,433 | Jul 10 21:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | Oh, I cussed him out over thatm the lady at the pharmacy said she'd overnight a replacement to the closest cvs. | Jul 10 21:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | This is will die without stuff. | Jul 10 21:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | Not some 20 dollar piece of crap from Amazon. | Jul 10 21:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | I saw the same UPS driver on my way down here and gave him the finger. | Jul 10 21:39 |
schestowitz | welcome to the "gig economy" | Jul 10 21:39 |
schestowitz | and "online shopping" | Jul 10 21:39 |
schestowitz | it's sooo sooo good | Jul 10 21:39 |
schestowitz | and good for the client, too | Jul 10 21:39 |
schestowitz | they just throw things at your outer entrance | Jul 10 21:40 |
MinceR | 10 223611 < DaemonFC[m]> Worth a try. Fedora has another one of those crazy sudo bugs happening right now. | Jul 10 21:40 |
schestowitz | at your next-door neighbour | Jul 10 21:40 |
schestowitz | outsourcing the risk to you | Jul 10 21:40 |
MinceR | aren't you supposed to be using "machinectl shell" or some demented shit like that? | Jul 10 21:40 |
MinceR | 10 220645 < CrystalMath> democrats believe people should be forced to pay for this stuff | Jul 10 21:41 |
MinceR | so people shouldn't be forced to pay for contraception and abortion, but they should be paid for the feeding of the unwanted young? | Jul 10 21:42 |
MinceR | s/should be paid/should be forced to pay/ | Jul 10 21:42 |
CrystalMath | how would they be paid? | Jul 10 21:42 |
CrystalMath | by making someone else pay? no | Jul 10 21:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR whatever it is, it makes sudo take like 30 seconds to ask for my password sometimes and it prevents the KDE screen locker from accepting the password. | Jul 10 21:42 |
MinceR | via taxes and welfare | Jul 10 21:42 |
CrystalMath | yeah, no | Jul 10 21:42 |
CrystalMath | none of that crap | Jul 10 21:42 |
MinceR | and people should be forced to pay for the indoctrination of other people's children in religious schools? | Jul 10 21:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's probably one of those we decided to make a dns query and the server went ehat whaaaaaat things. | Jul 10 21:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | Sudo is fucking terrible. | Jul 10 21:43 |
MinceR | DaemonFC[m]: seems to me the issue is not with sudo | Jul 10 21:43 |
MinceR | but with cancerd and whatever they did to PAM | Jul 10 21:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | PAM is another mess of its own. | Jul 10 21:44 |
MinceR | not if you don't let the likes of poettering touch it | Jul 10 21:45 |
MinceR | afaict sudo and PAM still work fine on free unixes | Jul 10 21:46 |
MinceR | (and so does doas on openbsd) | Jul 10 21:46 |
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schestowitz | With 7 states left to report US covid19 cases today already up to 55k | Jul 10 21:59 |
*schestowitz does not use sudo anymore | Jul 10 22:00 | |
DaemonFC[m] | It's a vacuum leak from what it sounds like. | Jul 10 22:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | I think Kubuntu 20.04 lts might work out okay. | Jul 10 22:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | 3 year support. My laptop is getting up there angway. | Jul 10 22:05 |
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Digit | 55k? :3 still determined with those inflated pcr tests? | Jul 10 22:23 |
schestowitz | I assumed lab tests | Jul 10 22:25 |
schestowitz | IR is guest/estimate | Jul 10 22:25 |
schestowitz | 59k now | Jul 10 22:26 |
Digit | mixing in the antibody tests too? mixing in clinical diagnosis too? mixing in conflated post-mortem misdiagnoses too? who makes n profits of the pcr tests? are they intentionally making them such absurd small fractions absurdly over multiplied for false positives to help drum up more business? | Jul 10 22:26 |
schestowitz | Colorado Nebraska Idaho New Hampshire | Jul 10 22:26 |
schestowitz | USA | Jul 10 22:26 |
schestowitz | StateTotal | Jul 10 22:26 |
schestowitz | CasesNew | Jul 10 22:26 |
schestowitz | CasesTotal | Jul 10 22:26 |
schestowitz | DeathsNew | Jul 10 22:26 |
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schestowitz | New Mexico | Jul 10 22:27 |
schestowitz | Hawaii | Jul 10 22:27 |
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schestowitz | testing business? | Jul 10 22:27 |
schestowitz | how does brazil test? | Jul 10 22:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | Looks like the car was a false alarm. | Jul 10 22:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | Dirty MAF sensor. | Jul 10 22:31 |
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schestowitz | 59.5k | Jul 10 22:35 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: what's maf? | Jul 10 22:35 |
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oiaohm | Digit: the anti-body test on covid-19 is known to read low. Why its possible to fight off the covid-19 illness without developing any specialised anti-bodys the general anti-cancer ones in some people successfully do it. | Jul 10 22:49 |
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DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "DaemonFC: what's maf?"> Mass Air Flow sensor | Jul 10 22:51 |
schestowitz | ok,thanls | Jul 10 22:55 |
schestowitz | thanks | Jul 10 22:55 |
oiaohm | Digit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymerase_chain_reaction It depends on the PCR method if it the oldest method its purely the lab preforming the test and the companies providing supplies. This is why there have some major screw ups as you can perform PCR in non standard ways leading to false positives or negatives. | Jul 10 22:56 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I like KDE, I like Fedora mostly. | Jul 10 23:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | But this PAM and systemd crap is turning into a real rat's nest that's getting worse by the minute. | Jul 10 23:16 |
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schestowitz | pam is still in fedora? | Jul 10 23:19 |
schestowitz | +60,750 cases with 3 hours to go | Jul 10 23:20 |
schestowitz | iirc, 62k was the previous record high | Jul 10 23:20 |
schestowitz | the idea is, the trumpists need to bring those numbers down | Jul 10 23:20 |
schestowitz | the total fatalities also increase over time | Jul 10 23:20 |
schestowitz | in uk 48 deaths and 512 cases today... if we trust these numbers (I am sceptical about some aspects) | Jul 10 23:21 |
schestowitz | 11,538,519 tests to date | Jul 10 23:21 |
schestowitz | 11,286,921 yesterday | Jul 10 23:21 |
schestowitz | so we still test, on average about a quarter million per day | Jul 10 23:21 |
schestowitz | if only 500 or so come out positive, it's like one in 500 | Jul 10 23:21 |
schestowitz | with some regions of England being worse (higher per capita) | Jul 10 23:22 |
schestowitz | manchster is ranked 15th last I checked | Jul 10 23:22 |
schestowitz | 61k+ now | Jul 10 23:24 |
schestowitz | 61.8k previous all-time high | Jul 10 23:24 |
schestowitz | July 8th | Jul 10 23:24 |
MinceR | 11 001947 < schestowitz> pam is still in fedora? | Jul 10 23:25 |
MinceR | afaik *logind can't work without PAM | Jul 10 23:25 |
schestowitz | why does login need systemd anyway? | Jul 10 23:25 |
schestowitz | and it's running even after you log in | Jul 10 23:25 |
schestowitz | is that for login on the terminal? | Jul 10 23:25 |
schestowitz | or remote login daemon as well? | Jul 10 23:26 |
MinceR | not login | Jul 10 23:26 |
MinceR | systemd-logind and elogind | Jul 10 23:26 |
schestowitz | kerneld coming soon | Jul 10 23:26 |
schestowitz | based on mach | Jul 10 23:26 |
schestowitz | MuchBetter(r) | Jul 10 23:26 |
MinceR | it would be nice if they switched to their own kernel | Jul 10 23:26 |
MinceR | instead of making Linux worse | Jul 10 23:26 |
schestowitz | fuchsia from Google | Jul 10 23:26 |
schestowitz | kerneld from IBM | Jul 10 23:27 |
schestowitz | the MuchBetter(r) stuff | Jul 10 23:27 |
psydread | unikernel-systemd | Jul 10 23:27 |
schestowitz | Torvalds might have 5-10 years left in relevance frame | Jul 10 23:27 |
schestowitz | the drivers can be ported | Jul 10 23:27 |
schestowitz | github will help :-) | Jul 10 23:27 |
psydread | > But this PAM and systemd crap is turning into a real rat's nest that's getting worse by the minute. | Jul 10 23:29 |
psydread | I wonder if it's even worth it to go to an earlier state of GNU/Linux and fork from there taking things in another direction | Jul 10 23:29 |
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MinceR | could be | Jul 10 23:31 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: record. | Jul 10 23:32 |
schestowitz | Soldier's idea of sacrifice: I will go to the D-Day invasion for the anti-fascist war | Jul 10 23:32 |
schestowitz | Trump's idea of sacrifice: I will kill a quarter million old Americans, people who vote for me, to help con men like me get richer | Jul 10 23:32 |
MinceR | but it will still take a lot of people to maintain Linux | Jul 10 23:32 |
XRevan86 | Mach is not like Mač | Jul 10 23:33 |
MinceR | mat' | Jul 10 23:33 |
schestowitz | some distros already explore gnu+bsd | Jul 10 23:34 |
schestowitz | notable among them is an fsf-endorsed one | Jul 10 23:34 |
schestowitz | they're not happy with the ways things are going, inc. drm | Jul 10 23:34 |
schestowitz | interesting times ahead | Jul 10 23:34 |
schestowitz | azure is failing anyway | Jul 10 23:34 |
schestowitz | almost 5 years of spam/ads sunk onto sites | Jul 10 23:34 |
schestowitz | and still minuscule share of the market | Jul 10 23:35 |
schestowitz | iis at 2% | Jul 10 23:35 |
schestowitz | growing irrelevance | Jul 10 23:35 |
schestowitz | falling into oblivion | Jul 10 23:35 |
schestowitz | for servers, as a market, microsoft rapidly becomes zero | Jul 10 23:35 |
schestowitz | desktop... well, people move to mobile more and more | Jul 10 23:35 |
schestowitz | the patent blackmail relies on old and expiring patents | Jul 10 23:35 |
schestowitz | there are layoffs | Jul 10 23:36 |
schestowitz | godot said that Microsoft had cut its funding too | Jul 10 23:36 |
schestowitz | hours ago in its official blog | Jul 10 23:36 |
schestowitz | but I guess billg is already moving into the needle and test tube "bizniz" | Jul 10 23:36 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: +62,934 | Jul 10 23:36 |
schestowitz | maybe it can reach 70k today, more than I expected (65k) | Jul 10 23:37 |
psydread | Microsoft is DEC, Sun, IBM and who knows what other companies all in one | Jul 10 23:37 |
psydread | with much inferior tech, but still following the same path of decline | Jul 10 23:38 |
schestowitz | US, with 4% of the world's population, now accounts for 35.72% of the world's known and active #covid19 cases. Well done, #trump (build that wall to keep the rest of the world safe) | Jul 10 23:39 |
schestowitz | microsoft's market cap is fake | Jul 10 23:39 |
schestowitz | based on fraud and lies | Jul 10 23:39 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/02/03/azure-lies/ | Jul 10 23:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft “Azure” (or “Cloud”) Results Are Most Likely an Elaborate Fraud | Techrights | Jul 10 23:39 | |
schestowitz | it's gonna come down really hard one day | Jul 10 23:39 |
schestowitz | when the shareholders find out what a ponzi scheme this is... | Jul 10 23:40 |
psydread | when I said this as a comment on some "news article" I was called "negative", but I prefer being called a realist | Jul 10 23:40 |
schestowitz | usually the realists are... realistic | Jul 10 23:40 |
schestowitz | if we were to learn anything from the events of 2008 | Jul 10 23:41 |
schestowitz | +63,251 | Jul 10 23:41 |
schestowitz | (those are active) | Jul 10 23:41 |
schestowitz | not antibodies | Jul 10 23:41 |
schestowitz | toxic bioweapens with two legs | Jul 10 23:42 |
schestowitz | *weapons | Jul 10 23:42 |
schestowitz | Tulsa reports many new cases | Jul 10 23:42 |
schestowitz | their admin there, the officials, blame the Trump Rally | Jul 10 23:42 |
psydread | I think what is going to undo microsoft is that they don't have any enthusiast developers left for pretty much their entire stack | Jul 10 23:43 |
schestowitz | yes, I saw an article about .NET today | Jul 10 23:44 |
psydread | and a platform with no development going for it will eventually die | Jul 10 23:44 |
schestowitz | MS Tim wrote it | Jul 10 23:44 |
schestowitz | Microsoft had bribed him BTW | Jul 10 23:44 |
schestowitz | he admitting that .NET openwashing had failed | Jul 10 23:44 |
schestowitz | it was only Microsoft still working on it | Jul 10 23:44 |
schestowitz | zephyr and Microsoft have much in common... maybe to be shelves under LF or Apache | Jul 10 23:44 |
schestowitz | to maintain illusion of ongoing relevance | Jul 10 23:45 |
schestowitz | but Microsoft now attempts to intrude apache and other lively communities of devs | Jul 10 23:45 |
schestowitz | it also bought github, though I'm failing to see how -- other than control -- it elevated Microsoft's own stack | Jul 10 23:45 |
schestowitz | VS "Code" and WSL are failures | Jul 10 23:45 |
schestowitz | not the adoption they wanted | Jul 10 23:46 |
schestowitz | PowerShell, Terminal... all paid fluff in the media, not many users | Jul 10 23:46 |
schestowitz | it's seen as a loser's turf | Jul 10 23:46 |
schestowitz | and real devs look elsewhere | Jul 10 23:46 |
schestowitz | fertile ground | Jul 10 23:46 |
schestowitz | Microsoft people who interact with me in Twitter aren't dismissive | Jul 10 23:46 |
schestowitz | as if accepting that what I say is "true".... but "not helpful" | Jul 10 23:47 |
schestowitz | they fake momentum | Jul 10 23:47 |
schestowitz | hoping it'll turn into something real | Jul 10 23:47 |
schestowitz | but years down the line... nothing | Jul 10 23:47 |
schestowitz | all talk, spam, googlebombing | Jul 10 23:47 |
schestowitz | LF is dead | Jul 10 23:47 |
schestowitz | it's not a FOSS or Linux group anymore | Jul 10 23:48 |
psydread | I read a comment on some YT video and it said that the only way for MS Windows to survive is to make it a Linux distro, because then it can ride on the coattails of multiarchitecture GNU/Linux | Jul 10 23:48 |
schestowitz | and the widespread sentiment is exactly that | Jul 10 23:48 |
psydread | so this is the thing I'm most wary of | Jul 10 23:48 |
schestowitz | they lost all credibility with the community... LF has no leverage over communities anymore... maybe the media alone | Jul 10 23:48 |
schestowitz | Windows cannot take over as gnu/linux | Jul 10 23:48 |
schestowitz | but it can hijack the brand | Jul 10 23:49 |
schestowitz | if LF continues to let it | Jul 10 23:49 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: +64,302 | Jul 10 23:49 |
schestowitz | brand hijacking is a hugely severe escalation in tactics | Jul 10 23:50 |
schestowitz | you literally abduct the others' products | Jul 10 23:50 |
schestowitz | with copyleft it can be deadly | Jul 10 23:50 |
schestowitz | you literally 'reown' the thing | Jul 10 23:50 |
schestowitz | MAUI | Jul 10 23:50 |
schestowitz | AppGet | Jul 10 23:50 |
schestowitz | OfficeOpen [sic] XML | Jul 10 23:50 |
schestowitz | But people will be watching LF | Jul 10 23:51 |
schestowitz | and shouting at it | Jul 10 23:51 |
schestowitz | Zemlin is gone | Jul 10 23:51 |
schestowitz | they vanished him from press release | Jul 10 23:51 |
schestowitz | LF knows he's too clueless and a PR liability now, so it hides him, sort of... | Jul 10 23:51 |
schestowitz | you'll rarely see him mentioned in LF press releases anymore | Jul 10 23:51 |
schestowitz | or even giving keynote talks | Jul 10 23:52 |
psydread | I didn't know, but I haven't been paying much attention to the LF recently | Jul 10 23:53 |
psydread | I do know that in the event MS goes under, everything he's said will become an instant liability | Jul 10 23:53 |
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schestowitz | who? zemlin? | Jul 10 23:54 |
schestowitz | he said they're like a puppy | Jul 10 23:54 |
schestowitz | and 'bashing' them is kicking a puppy | Jul 10 23:54 |
schestowitz | then he took money from them | Jul 10 23:54 |
schestowitz | and helped them take over github | Jul 10 23:55 |
schestowitz | then outsourced almost everything new from LF to github | Jul 10 23:55 |
schestowitz | they hired from microsoft | Jul 10 23:55 |
schestowitz | they basically decided, heck... microsoft is such a cute puppy, let's give if the driver's sear | Jul 10 23:55 |
schestowitz | *seat | Jul 10 23:55 |
schestowitz | *it | Jul 10 23:55 |
psydread | I wonder which company is next in line to be given the cute puppy award | Jul 10 23:57 |
MinceR | do they need another? | Jul 10 23:58 |
MinceR | microshit got most of what they wanted | Jul 10 23:58 |
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DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: With Mandy pouring honey all over everything I don't know how everybody in the Philippines isn't diabetic. | Jul 10 23:59 |
schestowitz | there's a chance MSFT will hire Zemlin | Jul 10 23:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | Their food is all sugar with a side of sugar on top of sugar. | Jul 10 23:59 |
schestowitz | but the LF would suffer profoundly if that happened | Jul 10 23:59 |
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