●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, September 10, 2021 ●● ● Sep 10 [00:00] techrights-news #HowTo install Olive Video Editor on Linux Lite 5.4 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qJRR6AFkoRs #video #invidious #multimedia | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/09/#latest [00:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [00:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 32.45 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 85.80 swarm size (avg): 262.28 [00:13] techrights-news [Meme] [Teaser] Put the Ballot in This Box... THigHT http://techrights.org/2021/09/09/meme-antonio-campinos-in-riga/ #Techrights #latvia #riga #euipo #epo | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/09/meme-antonio-campinos-in-riga/ [00:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] [Teaser] Put the Ballot in This Box | Techrights [00:18] techrights-news #mozilla 'gets' the web sooooo much that it's outsourcing the #firefox videos to #youtube (owned by the real masters of Mozilla). #www savvy? Not so much anymore... [00:20] techrights-news Manjaro Cinnamon Switches Default Browser To Vivaldi http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155438#comment-30921 testament to the state of #mozilla ... as some choose #ProprietarySoftware over it [00:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Forget Firefox, Vivaldi Steals Default Browser Spot In Popular Linux Distro | Tux Machines [00:24] techrights-news Not everything needs a GUI. Trying to put together a regex with a GUI is like choosing to paint a picture from the command line. [00:25] MinceR :) [00:26] techrights-news Crazy. Evidence has shown vaccines help old people survive but hardly limit the spread of coronavirus. Now they try to impose these on KIDS just to sell more PATENT LICENCES in RICH COUNTRIES (while in poor countries elderly people get nothing)??? https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/09/08/world/covid-delta-variant-vaccine [00:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Covid News: L.A. School System Is Expected to Issue Student Vaccination Mandate - The New York Times [00:27] techrights-news Don't try to make SENSE of vaccination policies. Your mind might blow. [00:28] techrights-news In the US they have begun VACCINATING ZOO ANIMALS INSIDE CAGES... while elderly people in poor countries receive no doses. #patent #patents #monopoly #ArtificiallyInflatedPricing #cartel [00:30] techrights-news In #pfizer "world's lab" (what the CEO called it) the deaths per capita are about the same as in the US this summer. In "world's lab" about 95% of adults are covered by the #patent licence and get 3 jabs; in US it's hardly 50%. #patents #HardFacts [00:32] techrights-news What really counts most are excess deaths. IF your government releases data to that effect. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/09/03/borisnaro-data/ [00:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive The Number of Brits Who Died (and Still Die) Because of COVID-19 is a Lot Higher Than the Official Figures [00:33] techrights-news Nobody in #china dies from COVID-19. All those excess deaths are the fault of "malicious CIA Hip-Hop culture" and "evil computer games that corrupt our youth"... [00:34] techrights-news #EUIPO chief #AntnioCampinos (before he was parachuted into the top role of the #EPO ) meets his rigga in #Riga http://techrights.org/2021/09/09/meme-antonio-campinos-in-riga/ #latvia [00:36] techrights-news This is good news: "Judge Lucy Koh Tapped for Ninth Circuit Alongside Seven Other Biden Nominees to Federal Bench". Koh has been tough on #fakePatents http://techrights.org/2018/03/10/judge-koh-vs-immersion-patents/ [00:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Judge Koh, Famous for Her Apple/Samsung Rulings, Pours Cold Water on Haptic Technology Patents While China is Sought as Alternative Litigation Venue by Iancu-Connected Immersion | Techrights [00:49] XRevan86 Ariadne: https://nitter.eu/ariadneconill/status/1435815869456728072 ouch. It doesn't look like cromerc stepped out of line here. [00:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Ariadne Conill (@ariadneconill): "perhaps when somebody says stop mansplaining to me doubling down isnt a great idea" | nitter [00:49] Ariadne cool [00:49] Ariadne you're entitled to your opinion [00:50] Ariadne i'm entitled to mine [00:50] MinceR that whole conversation looks like a train wreck [00:50] Ariadne pretty much [00:50] XRevan86 True, just a weird read. I usually expect you to be aligned. [00:51] schestowitz-TR2 explaining became a gendered thing [00:51] schestowitz-TR2 I remember when I could argue with people without gender being a thing [00:51] schestowitz-TR2 it stopped about a decaade ago [00:51] schestowitz-TR2 look ay "shuttleworth explaining to girls" [00:51] XRevan86 So he misunderstood, said a stupid and then said that he was wrong. [00:51] schestowitz-TR2 sometimes we need to look past all this noise [00:51] schestowitz-TR2 and deal with the key issues [00:52] XRevan86 And then that suddenly escalated. [00:52] schestowitz-TR2 not the side 'issues' [00:52] Ariadne XRevan86: no, he "misunderstood", and then said i was using the wrong terminology. [00:52] schestowitz-TR2 mind you, I did not read the above [00:52] schestowitz-TR2 Words like mansplaining are gendered [00:52] schestowitz-TR2 where it's not needed [00:52] schestowitz-TR2 it warps the arguments [00:53] schestowitz-TR2 into one where nott he argument matters but gender [00:53] schestowitz-TR2 and not who is right [00:53] schestowitz-TR2 but what gender the two sides are [00:53] schestowitz-TR2 and that sort of dilutes the whole debate [00:53] XRevan86 Ariadne: He does? I don't fully understand the "You are actually compiling for a new architecture before bootstrapping" line, I don't know what he meant by that. [00:53] Ariadne yes, he does, that's what that statement implies [00:54] MinceR it's gendered because the people who invented the word wanted to create conflict between people of different genders [00:54] Ariadne but the thing is, he could have, and should have, just minded his own fucking business [00:54] schestowitz-TR2 (side story: when I blasted Catalin Cimpanu for anti-Linux FUD someone insinuated I was sexist, not knowing Catalin was in fact malle) [00:54] Ariadne if i don't know something about something [00:54] Ariadne i just don't comment on it [00:54] Ariadne he did the opposite, commenting in some sort of authoritative tone [00:54] XRevan86 Ariadne: Sometimes people don't know that they don't know. [00:55] Ariadne then he learned a valuable lesson [00:55] *schestowitz-TR2 checks the link above [00:55] schestowitz-TR2 screenshots of text [00:56] XRevan86 Ariadne: And he then clarified "just a simple case of different use of terminology" that implies that he has nothing against the other terminology use. [00:56] Ariadne yeah after he got called on it [00:56] schestowitz-TR2 so it started as a technical argument [00:56] Ariadne no, it started as stupidity [00:57] schestowitz-TR2 and someone that stopped being a technical argument [00:57] schestowitz-TR2 openrc [00:57] Ariadne i have actual shit to do [00:57] schestowitz-TR2 I think openmrc is very light [00:57] schestowitz-TR2 is that the roy-maintained thing? [00:57] schestowitz-TR2 the one who died or is dying? [00:58] XRevan86 Ariadne: Sure, but people making honest mistakes is not really a reason to then call them names. [00:58] schestowitz-TR2 *openrc [00:58] schestowitz Roy Marples https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenRC [00:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | OpenRC - Wikipedia [00:58] schestowitz "Size~900 KB" [00:58] schestowitz For code or binaries? [00:58] Ariadne XRevan86: saying somebody is participating in a specific behavior is not calling them names [00:59] Ariadne roy marples has not maintained openrc in years [00:59] Ariadne he handed it over to gentoo [00:59] Ariadne and that's when it all went to shit [00:59] *schestowitz back to preparing article about European corruption [00:59] Ariadne because gentoo do not care about other distros ● Sep 10 [01:00] Ariadne gentoo devs are pushing to adopt systemd anyway [01:00] XRevan86 Ariadne: It kind of is, it implies that he is the kind of people that does this sort of thing. [01:02] XRevan86 Ariadne: And this kind of "mansplaining" I see all sorts of people do all day long, men, women, non-binary, to each other and in all sorts of combinations. [01:02] Ariadne good for you [01:03] schestowitz-TR2 last week I responded to a former EPO director [01:03] Ariadne my opinion remains unswayed [01:03] Ariadne i have work to do [01:03] schestowitz-TR2 he had been trying to belittle my criticisms [01:03] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/09/01/daniel-x-thomas-reply/ [01:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Response to Daniel X. Thomas, Former Director at the European Patent Office (EPO) | Techrights [01:03] schestowitz typical BS from him [01:03] schestowitz painting himself as a victim and trying to bring his kids into it [01:03] schestowitz totally laughable tactics [01:04] schestowitz he still works for Battistelli as it turned out [01:04] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/09/01/daniel-x-thomas-ceipi-battistelli/ [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Daniel X. Thomas Still Works for Benot Battistelli | Techrights [01:04] XRevan86 Ariadne: O.K., I can tell when discussion is unwanted. [01:05] schestowitz-TR2 in the EPO, truth tellers are being called Nazis [01:05] schestowitz-TR2 this is in Munich [01:05] schestowitz-TR2 funny thing is, we discovered Battistelli himself has nazi connections through his parents [01:08] techrights-news #mozilla : use #firefox instead of #google Chrome even though Google sponsors us (antitrust avoidance) and we outsourced this promotional Firefox video to GOOGLE ;-) https://blog.mozilla.org/en/videos/feel-good-when-you-get-online-with-firefox/ [01:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Feel good when you get online with Firefox [01:08] techrights-news "Yesterday, September 2, the U.S. state of Texas legislature passed a bill that aims to stop social media companies from censoring conservative views. This bill and others like it across the United States have been drafted in direct response to platforms removal of misinformation" https://www.accessnow.org/texas-social-media-bill-unconstitutional/ [01:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Unconstitutional Texas social media bill attacks human rights - Access Now [01:10] techrights-news " #RcppSMC provides Rcpp-based bindings to R for the Sequential Monte Carlo Template Classes (SMCTC) by Adam Johansen described in his JSS article." http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2021/09/09#rcppsmc_0.2.5 [01:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dirk.eddelbuettel.com | Thinking inside the box [01:12] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 40.00 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 97.50 swarm size (avg): 262.25 [01:12] schestowitz Big fallout for youtube this week [01:12] schestowitz after banning nicholas from the linux experiment [01:13] schestowitz boy, have google folks scored an own goal [01:13] schestowitz nothing good achieved, just more bitter "creators" [01:13] XRevan86 Ariadne: Anyway, just try to imagine a person that has no experience with distribution maintainership but which is an experienced GNU/Linux user, and that person sees your comment and then just thinks "wait, that can't be right" and then writes why that's not correct from their understanding. [01:14] Ariadne XRevan86: he is the maintainer of some archlinux derivative called Artix [01:14] schestowitz-TR2 I know artix :-) [01:14] Ariadne XRevan86: my conclusion is quite informed, thanks [01:14] XRevan86 Ariadne: Do they bootstrap like Alpine or openSUSE? [01:14] schestowitz-TR2 but I suppose it's built by more art-oriented folks for their needs [01:14] Ariadne XRevan86: who the fuck knows, he knows what the fuck i was talking about though [01:14] XRevan86 after all, it's a derivative, they have different needs [01:15] Ariadne i'm not discussing this further [01:15] Ariadne i'm not the only one who, knowing the full context, agrees that he was interjecting in order to derail the conversation [01:16] schestowitz old: https://fosstodon.org/@twann/106649359644866313 [01:16] schestowitz "Because I can't contribute to project I like because I don't want to create an account on a fucking #Microsoft #proprietary service. I already have an account on @codeberg and it is fine for me. And I think other people have the same problem." [01:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fosstodon.org | Twann :artix: :lineageos2:: "Devs who are hosting their projects on #GitHub sh" - Fosstodon [01:16] Ariadne you can defend him all you want, but do it do /dev/null [01:17] XRevan86 He's not my spouse. [01:17] Ariadne he did not take "fuck off" for an answer, so he got ripped [01:17] schestowitz https://fosstodon.org/@twann/106511294898495362 [01:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fosstodon.org | Twann :artix: :lineageos2:: "My #ArtixLinux :artix: installation with #KDEPla" - Fosstodon [01:18] schestowitz Artix has quite a userbase [01:18] schestowitz I think it took over from some failed distros [01:18] schestowitz like the fedora- and ubuntu-based ones [01:19] Ariadne no idea, don't really care [01:19] XRevan86 Ariadne: That second message of his was intended to be final though, no? So looks like he did back off? [01:20] DaemonFC There's no telling why he got banned and if Google's not talking, they probably won't. [01:20] schestowitz DaemonFC: yes [01:20] schestowitz exactly [01:20] schestowitz did you see today's video from him? [01:20] schestowitz he still doesn't know why it happened, insists he didn't run afoul of rules [01:21] schestowitz so Google can just bite without barking [01:21] XRevan86 Eh, I guess different people read this differently and come to different conclusions. [01:21] schestowitz and unless you make a ton of noise with MILLLLLIONS (MEEEELIONS of watchers) of useds of youtube as witnesses, you're history [01:21] Ariadne that second message of his was intended to defend his first message [01:21] schestowitz http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155374#comment-30916 [01:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google/YouTube Bans GNU/Linux Channel "The Linux Experiment", Some More Videos Published | Tux Machines [01:21] Ariadne and was refuted again with "fuck off" [01:22] XRevan86 Ariadne: "I thought", "You are actually" that's an admission of personal misunderstanding. [01:23] Ariadne "I thought", yes [01:23] schestowitz-TR2 I doubt Google can recover from this >WITHIN the Linux channels and their "community"< [01:23] schestowitz-TR2 LBRY will take off even morpe [01:23] Ariadne "You are actually" - is a statement that i am not doing what i say i am doing, but something else [01:23] Ariadne aka double down [01:24] XRevan86 Ariadne: I gave the second part some thought, and it still reads as his trying to confirm that he understood you right. [01:24] XRevan86 and it looks like he still didn't, but it should've been just left at that, who even cares [01:24] *schestowitz-TR2 prefers phones for arguments (has intonation) [01:25] Ariadne the point is that if he doesn't know, then he should stay out of it [01:25] Ariadne i don't comment on artix [01:25] XRevan86 Like "oh, actually, ye are not doing what I thought you did, ye are doing this thing how I understood your explanation" [01:25] Ariadne fine, but then he triples down [01:26] techrights-news #gnu #linux users and developers need to quit #google #youtube .. IN DROVES http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155374#comment-30916 Google is NOT your friend... [01:26] Ariadne and a CoC threat, and plans to "adopt contributor covenant" [01:26] Ariadne fucking lol [01:27] techrights-news I've quit linking to #youtube and #twitter (directly) because these are both instruments of social manipulation by the rich and powerful interests, inc. cover-ups http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ [01:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights [01:27] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@sctsjmg96zkru.irc) has joined #techrights [01:27] XRevan86 Ariadne: On the screenshot the third message is a freak out, the rest I just don't know. [01:27] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [01:29] XRevan86 https://github.com/OpenRC/openrc/discussions/441 found the source, the fourth message is also not related to the original statement. [01:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-removing old gnu make build system Discussion #441 OpenRC/openrc GitHub [01:30] techrights-news THIS IS NOT THE ISSUE. The issue is 1) we don't know the potency of these products 2) they hardly prevent transmission 3) many ADULTS still reject them! Leave the kids out of it... at least until full clinical trials (5-10 years) https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/09/08/world/covid-delta-variant-vaccine [01:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Covid News: L.A. School System Is Expected to Issue Student Vaccination Mandate - The New York Times [01:30] XRevan86 Ariadne: I'm not pressuring or anything, just look at this with a fresh head later when ye have free time. [01:32] techrights-news Colonialism by WIPO with misuse of the word "right" (like they used to say slave ownership was a "right") http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/09/aripo-member-states-adopt-kampala.html [01:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | ARIPO Member States adopt the Kampala Protocol on Voluntary Registration of Copyright and Related Rights - The IPKat [01:35] techrights-news By Western standards many of these are #fakepatents for faked 'growth' (only the #litigation firms stand to benefit) https://www.iam-media.com/law-policy/china-surge-in-business-method-patents-continues-while-japan-and-south-korea-also-see-growth [01:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | China surge in business method patents continues, while Japan and South Korea also see growth | IAM [01:35] XRevan86 And after reading the explanation I understand how ye read it and why ye came to these conclusions. [01:36] techrights-news "patent generally relates to a call-to-action lockout on a mobile device" = #swpats = #fakepatents https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/9/9/2000-for-vitek-ip-prior-art #uspto #ptab [01:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $2,000 for Vitek IP prior art Unified Patents [01:37] schestowitz-TR2 XRevan86: what distro are you on for desktop/laptop? [01:37] XRevan86 schestowitz: openSUSE Tumbleweed still. [01:38] schestowitz-TR2 kde? [01:38] XRevan86 schestowitz: MATE [01:38] schestowitz-TR2 "I'm NOT your mate" ;-) [01:39] schestowitz-TR2 "DUDE!!" [01:40] XRevan86 schestowitz: I don't get the reference %). [01:42] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1JakODvYhA [01:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-South Park - Canada on Strike - I'm not your buddy / guy / friend (snippets) - YouTube [01:46] schestowitz-TR2 XRevan86: here, in england, you'd stop someone and say "MATE" [01:46] schestowitz-TR2 similar but not the same as "DUDE!" [01:47] Ariadne XRevan86: i mean, it is kind of irrelevant anyway at this point, what went down went down. he could have chosen to simply fuck off, when it became obvious that discussion was not wanted [01:47] MinceR "u wot m8" [01:47] schestowitz-TR2 exactly [01:47] schestowitz-TR2 even with that accent [01:48] schestowitz-TR2 "wwwwo?" [01:48] schestowitz-TR2 pronnounced like this [01:48] schestowitz-TR2 butter is "baha" [01:48] MinceR not ba'a? [01:48] schestowitz-TR2 mate is mayyyt [01:49] schestowitz-TR2 MinceR: yeah [01:50] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=21&v=b-7zTlSVdnw&feature=emb_logo [01:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Pronounce Butter? (2 WAYS!) British Vs US/American English Pronunciation - YouTube [01:50] schestowitz it's wrong [01:51] schestowitz in the north we leave out the t [01:51] Ariadne XRevan86: i mean, the contents of my first message should have clearly come across as "fuck off" [01:51] schestowitz same for computer [01:51] Ariadne XRevan86: should i have just outright said "fuck off"? [01:51] activelow Ariadne: cannot confirm openrc was in bad shape on gentoo [01:51] schestowitz there's compu-TER, south usually [01:52] schestowitz then there is comp-yu-ah! [01:52] XRevan86 Ariadne: His second message was an acknowledgement, not a double down. Ye misread the second part because it's written badly. [01:52] Ariadne XRevan86: his second message shouldn't have existed, he should have fucked off [01:52] Ariadne the best acknowledgement is disappearing [01:52] XRevan86 People like to show that they understood. [01:52] MinceR [01:53] schestowitz what are those chars? [01:53] MinceR katakana for "konpyuutaa" [01:53] Ariadne computer in japanese [01:53] Ariadne o [01:54] Ariadne though you don't nee the final glyph [01:54] Ariadne is adequate [01:54] schestowitz it did not look kanji [01:55] schestowitz nippon in general is an enigma to me [01:55] MinceR it isn't kanji, it's katakana :> [01:55] schestowitz "I peak emoji" [01:55] schestowitz *speak [01:56] Ariadne XRevan86: i will discuss the matter with him on irc, or via email [01:56] *schestowitz finished the draft for the 6am blockbuster article [01:57] Ariadne however, his website says; [01:57] Ariadne My name is Chris Cromer. I am an American from Pensacola, Florida [01:57] Ariadne so, he should be fluent in english [01:57] Ariadne on the other hand, he is from florida [01:57] schestowitz spanish [01:57] Ariadne i have heard the floridian public education system is ... not the best [01:57] schestowitz hardly the worst [01:58] Ariadne of course, i conclude that based on headlines like [01:58] schestowitz FL is in general a relatively OK state [01:58] Ariadne "Florida man does [something entirely dangerous and idiotic]" [01:58] schestowitz I have lots of relatives there [01:58] schestowitz there are far worse states [01:58] schestowitz even adjacent to FL [01:58] Ariadne yes, could be Alabama [01:58] MinceR florida-man, florida-man. does whatever a florida can. [01:59] XRevan86 Ariadne: The best course of action would be to back down, admit personal mistakes and move on, in my opinion. [01:59] schestowitz FL attracted some decent people from the north, usually well-off retirees [01:59] *schestowitz saves fighting energy for patent boosters ● Sep 10 [02:00] XRevan86 Everyone should be honest about what they did wrong, to ourselves and to others. [02:00] Ariadne does not matter, vapier decided to go nuclear either way [02:01] XRevan86 Ariadne: I guess I'm too late with all that then. [02:01] *mib_12pynu (~4f8f6ffc@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [02:01] techrights-news EPO did something illegal (as usual), then rigged the courts, and after 'legalising' this offence by abusing courts it kindly asks for our view on it? https://www.mondaq.com/patent/1109322/the-epo-conducts-a-survey-on-users39-experience-with-vico-proceedings-in-opposition see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/ [02:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | The EPO Conducts A Survey On Users' Experience With ViCo Proceedings In Opposition - Intellectual Property - Denmark [02:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights [02:03] techrights-news #euipo and #epo pandering to identity #politics https://epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20210908.html distracts from the abuses: http://techrights.org/2019/07/04/epo-budget-for-media/ [02:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - EPO and ARIPO launch major training programme [02:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Ethiopian Media Gamed by EPO Management, Just Like European Media | Techrights [02:04] techrights-news "it's OK, daddy works for #euipo so I am above the law..." http://techrights.org/2017/02/08/immunity-and-impunity-euipo/ [02:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Immunity of the Intellectual Property Office of the European Union Causes Outrage in Spanish Media | Techrights [02:05] techrights-news It should not be permissible to sell #patents AT ALL. https://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/patent/1088546/assignor-estoppel-when-can-a-party-challenge-a-patent-they-sold [02:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Assignor Estoppel: When Can A Party Challenge A Patent They Sold? - Intellectual Property - United States [02:05] XRevan86 schestowitz: "here, in england, you'd stop someone and say "MATE"" I am aware, was that just referring to that? [02:05] XRevan86 It do be like that, innit? [02:07] techrights-news #patent bubbles need to burst far faster than this: "Domestic applicants filed 10% fewer Australian standard applications than in 2019." https://blog.patentology.com.au/2021/09/did-pandemic-affect-2020-australian-pct.html [02:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.patentology.com.au | Did the Pandemic Affect 2020 Australian PCT Filings? ~ patentology [02:08] schestowitz XRevan86: innit is a bad urban/racial [02:08] schestowitz "native" Brits don't seem to use that word much anymore [02:08] schestowitz "wicked" was very popular 20 years ago [02:08] schestowitz but again, only in some contexts [02:09] Ariadne XRevan86: please do understand that every time alpine has ever tried to cooperate with openrc, it has been a total disaster [02:10] schestowitz wow, FreeBSD, NetBSD, TrueOS listed among users of it [02:10] XRevan86 schestowitz: Isn't it part of Cockney and MLE? Oh, I guess that's what "urban" means. [02:10] schestowitz I am guessing they chose shithub for wrong reasonse [02:11] schestowitz even before Microsoft [02:11] schestowitz written in c and shell [02:11] schestowitz XRevan86: It's an almost politically-correct term [02:11] schestowitz although that too has been marked as "bad" word [02:11] schestowitz soon we'll run our of all bad words [02:12] schestowitz and they we'll call people "aliens" or worse [02:12] XRevan86 Ariadne: Well, that can explain why they've been so unforgiving, but that they upheld the code of conduct correctly. [02:12] XRevan86 s/that // [02:13] Ariadne no, they did not hold up anything correctly [02:13] schestowitz can't believe I cannot check the code without accessing a Microsoft 'site' [02:13] schestowitz (program) [02:13] schestowitz which is a travesty [02:13] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.05 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 96.41 swarm size (avg): 262.22 [02:13] Ariadne OpenRC does not have a code of conduct, vapier was trying to assert something existed which does not. [02:13] schestowitz https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:OpenRC [02:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.gentoo.org | Project:OpenRC - Gentoo Wiki [02:13] schestowitz they link to Microsoft / facepalm [02:13] Ariadne I know this because despite vapier's insistence, the maintainer of OpenRC has explicitly stated that OpenRC *is not a gentoo project* [02:13] XRevan86 Correction: they upheld the Gentoo CoC correctly, whether that's applicable or not. [02:14] schestowitz no local copy of the repo [02:14] XRevan86 Ariadne: But that would imply that ye do not agree with the Gentoo CoC in general if ye're willing to go against the things written in it. [02:15] Ariadne the Gentoo CoC also says that if you don't know what the fuck you are talking about, you should say nothing [02:15] Ariadne it explicitly says that [02:15] XRevan86 > Admit the possibility of fault and respect different point of views. Noone is perfect you will get things wrong occasionally. Don't be afraid to admit this. Similarly, while something may seem perfectly obvious to you, others may see it differently. [02:15] schestowitz what does it say about language? [02:16] Ariadne we can rules lawyer all night [02:16] XRevan86 "Don't be afraid to admit this." cromerc did that and got the whip. [02:17] XRevan86 > Unacceptable behaviour: Being judgmental, [02:17] techrights-news TIL #openRC is outsourced to #microsoft and #gentoo , its steward, is happy to link to Microsoft #ProprietarySoftware programs ('sites') instead of maintaining local copies (that it controls) of C code. No lessons learned from the GitHub/Microsoft breach? [02:17] Ariadne haha i love it [02:17] Ariadne thanks schestowitz [02:18] techrights-news GitHub is Microsofts Proprietary Software and Centralised (Monopoly) Platform, But When Canonicals Account There Gets Compromised Suddenly It's Ubuntu's Fault? THigHT techrights.org/2019/07/14/blaming-canonical-for-github/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: techrights.org/2019/07/14/blaming-canonical-for-github/ [02:18] XRevan86 Ariadne: I'm not trying to lawyer it, just showing that by going this road ye will challenge way too much. [02:19] XRevan86 all the code of conducts in the world [02:19] schestowitz-TR2 codes of conduct [02:19] schestowitz-TR2 my palm PDA has a code of conduit [02:19] schestowitz-TR2 but it is proprietary [02:19] XRevan86 Did I really write "code of conducts"? Heh. [02:20] schestowitz-TR2 sold to hp, then lg [02:20] schestowitz-TR2 conduit for palm OS has not worked in debian for ages [02:20] schestowitz-TR2 not even over usb [02:20] Ariadne vapier, however, can fuck off [02:20] Ariadne permanently [02:20] Ariadne into the sun [02:20] Ariadne because of vapier, i have been doxed multiple times, threatened, etc [02:21] Ariadne by rabid gentoo users [02:21] Ariadne gentoo has a CoC huh, well it does not cover their shitty users [02:21] Ariadne gentoo adopting your software is a cautionary tale [02:22] schestowitz-TR2 they do have some reputation [02:23] schestowitz-TR2 ricers are more passionate [02:23] schestowitz-TR2 compiling systems like some mine crypto 'coins' [02:23] schestowitz-TR2 though it does give extra flexibility [02:23] schestowitz-TR2 I used to want to change kate behaviour [02:24] schestowitz-TR2 but that would require recompiling kate if not some of the things it depends on like kpart and kwin at some other level [02:24] MinceR 10 031903 < XRevan86> all the code of conducts in the world [02:24] schestowitz-TR2 kate loves hiding the cursor when it does not move [02:24] MinceR all the CoCs in the world are cancer [02:24] XRevan86 MinceR: Exactly like that, yes. [02:24] schestowitz-TR2 MinceR: what about blank ones? [02:25] *blitzed (~blitzed@urj55h478rzys.irc) has joined #techrights [02:25] MinceR why would anyone need blank ones? [02:25] schestowitz-TR2 MinceR: run /motd in this network [02:25] schestowitz-TR2 MinceR: when asked [02:25] schestowitz-TR2 "do you have CoC?" [02:25] schestowitz-TR2 "Yes, I do" [02:25] schestowitz-TR2 here [02:25] *job (~job@mpc6fp9vxphwn.irc) has joined #techrights [02:25] MinceR it's better to not have any [02:26] MinceR and our motd says we don't have one :> [02:26] schestowitz-TR2 it'll always be misused by the enforcers [02:26] schestowitz-TR2 who will apply to others rules they're exempted from [02:26] schestowitz-TR2 human nature... same as politics and courts [02:26] XRevan86 Ariadne: This particular case wasn't particularly about him though (no idea who that is). [02:27] Ariadne it is when he is throwing around threats [02:27] kingoffrance ^ yeah, i interpreted it as "if you will just bow down, all the code of conducts in the world will be yours" lol my coc is not of this world lol [02:27] schestowitz-TR2 MinceR: "but it's void and blank" [02:27] schestowitz-TR2 "oh, why yes it is..." [02:27] kingoffrance ^ was to "human nature" ... [02:27] schestowitz-TR2 one can use intitution and common sense, like no death threats tolerated [02:28] XRevan86 Ariadne: I don't see them in that thread. [02:28] schestowitz-TR2 some societies do tolerate death threats and respect them [02:28] Ariadne vapier is literally [02:28] Ariadne in it [02:28] schestowitz-TR2 but I hardly respect those societies... stone ages [02:28] Ariadne he is captain CoC [02:29] XRevan86 Ariadne: All he says is pretty much "behave". [02:29] Ariadne no, he is additionally passive aggressive in his other response [02:29] Ariadne its fine [02:30] XRevan86 Not that threatening. [02:30] Ariadne no, he is just being a dick [02:30] Ariadne as usual [02:30] Ariadne anyway [02:30] Ariadne its fine [02:30] Ariadne whatever [02:30] techrights-news "HEY HI" spammed around as a buzzword again https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/09/10/wio-lite-ai-an-stm32h725a-cortex-m7-board-for-ai-vision-applications/ [02:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Wio Lite AI - An STM32H725A Cortex-M7 board for AI vision applications - CNX Software [02:31] XRevan86 Ariadne: On a similiar note, has the future of udev been decided in Alpine? [02:31] Ariadne libudev-zero [02:32] XRevan86 Ariadne: Oh but isn't it too basic for something as general purpose-ish as Alpine? [02:33] Ariadne thankfully, some people had seen this eudev deprecation coming [02:33] Ariadne and so were working with the libudev-zero author to enhance its performance [02:33] activelow Ariadne: i did it slightly different, USE=-udev, and install eudev nonetheless [02:34] techrights-news How "to ditch X11/gtk/qt support entirely" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-090921.html#tSep%2009%2012:57:35 [02:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, September 09, 2021 [02:34] XRevan86 activelow: That's not helpful. [02:34] activelow with this the comfort of dynamic device nodes and automountign remaind, but all udev api gone in any library/program [02:35] XRevan86 activelow: Thing is, eudev will likely be gone altogether. And for a distribution that doesn't want to be stuck in the past that's going to become a problem. [02:35] techrights-news "If #BillGates had no money, he certainly wouldn't be the kind that got by very well." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-090921.html#tSep%2009%2021:55:23 [02:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, September 09, 2021 [02:36] activelow XRevan86: had been thinking about this several times, considered mdev, but didn't want to loose the dynamic device nodes [02:36] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-090921.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-090921.txt Read the log now... [02:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, September 09, 2021 [02:36] activelow XRevan86: eudev is a modern device node manager [02:37] XRevan86 activelow: And it's orphaned. [02:37] *mib_12pynu has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [02:37] activelow don't know yet if it requires any considerable maintenance, if it is stable [02:37] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-090921.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-090921.txt Read the log now... [02:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, September 09, 2021 [02:38] activelow both openrc and eudev seem in acceptable shape, on gentoo [02:38] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-090921.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-090921.txt Read the log now... [02:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, September 09, 2021 [02:38] MinceR but not for long [02:38] MinceR :> [02:38] XRevan86 Ariadne: Is mdevd considered or smdev or something else entirely? [02:39] Ariadne well, gee, the mdevd author is an alpine developer who is also tasked with solving our openrc problem. [02:39] Ariadne what do you think? :P [02:39] XRevan86 Ariadne: Ah :D [02:39] activelow had no problem with dropping openrc entirely, and write an autoexec.bat style init system without any fancy features at all; DOS survived in the enterprise realm with it, and so will i [02:39] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-090921.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-090921.txt Read the log now... [02:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, September 09, 2021 [02:39] Ariadne activelow: eudev is literally dead [02:40] Ariadne activelow: the maintainer of eudev asked if alpine wanted to take it over, but we were already planning to move to libudev-zero and mdevd. [02:40] XRevan86 activelow: Ye'd literally be better off with runit. [02:40] Ariadne its strange [02:40] Ariadne some collaborations between alpine and gentoo go very well [02:40] Ariadne other collaborations like openrc have always been a total shitshow [02:40] activelow Ariadne: i had zero issues with it yet, but i am using relatively "old" hardware why may not have required any database update for device node creation [02:41] activelow *which [02:41] XRevan86 I guess Devuan will just go with udev. [02:41] Ariadne with openrc, i think in retrospect, it was because alpine was a small, and young, distribution at the time we started collaborating [02:41] XRevan86 but they'll probably not like that at all, so who knows [02:41] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-09-09.txt [02:41] Ariadne and so in that space, alpine is treated like a distro with a small userbase still [02:41] Ariadne even though thats not the case today [02:42] techrights-news #Gofore just got a contract from #epo but no details given https://virtual-strategy.com/2021/09/08/gofore-plc-gofore-plcs-business-review-1-31-august-2021-growth-continued-in-august-through-competitive-tendering-gofore-included-in-two-framework-agreements-in-europe/ sometimes it's hidden: http://techrights.org/2019/09/07/serco-epo-deal-censored/ http://techrights.org/2019/09/06/epo-outsourcing-to-serco/ [02:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gofore Plc: Gofore Plcs Business Review 1 31 August 2021: Growth continued in August Through competitive tendering, Gofore included in two framework agreements in Europe | Virtual-Strategy Magazine [02:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Sercos Censorship of Media or EPOs Censorship of Media? Either Way, Theres a Profound Media Crisis in Europe. | Techrights [02:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Corrupt EPO Apparently Hides Its Serco Outsourcing Deal | Techrights [02:42] Ariadne though i doubt collaboration will be pleasant really [02:42] Ariadne i mean, it is already known that alpine is discontinuing its use of openrc in 2025 [02:43] Ariadne this has been known for quite a while [02:43] activelow btw. if this escalates, i am regularly tagging all gentoo repos, and had no problem with refraining from any further update in the next 10 years [02:43] Ariadne but gentoo devs want systemd anyway, like mgorny etc [02:44] Ariadne i fear bringing real udev into alpine, because some will want to switch to systemd itself [02:45] activelow currently i am preparing to drop X11/gtk/qt, i will keep the profile settings to compile this, but rarely will anymore and try to live without it [02:45] schestowitz why is gtk bad? [02:45] schestowitz aside from ibm? [02:45] MinceR they betrayed gimp [02:45] MinceR they have half a window manager in there because wayland [02:45] schestowitz gimp is where gtk comes from [02:45] MinceR they're controlled by gnome [02:46] activelow i mean, currently i have both, X11/gui and a profile without it, it is too much maintenance effort without relevant benefit for me [02:46] MinceR yes, and gtk tossed out widgets gimp used [02:46] schestowitz gnome is controlled by ibm [02:46] schestowitz mostly [02:46] schestowitz ibm barely cares about it [02:46] MinceR because copying crApple's macOS "app"s is more important than supporting gimp [02:46] schestowitz it probably views community as a "burden" now [02:46] activelow gimp is one of those programs, rarely use it, but no replacement exists for noX11 (little surprising) [02:46] Ariadne XRevan86: anyway, i had already concluded that my responses were too harsh [02:47] Ariadne XRevan86: but i had things to do and did not have time until now to formulate a response [02:47] schestowitz activelow: I've used gimp a lot for 20 years [02:47] schestowitz krita is apparently good also [02:48] schestowitz I am not familiar with the krita gui though [02:48] schestowitz also, qt :-) [02:48] schestowitz proprietary-wards... [02:48] activelow had some issue with krita iirc, not sure what it was, it hit some of my blacklist entries (dbus probably) [02:48] schestowitz kde uses it a lot [02:49] activelow qt4/5 are available, kde* is mostly gone [02:49] activelow with dbus blacklisted [02:49] schestowitz at the moment I have 4 dbus-daemons running [02:49] XRevan86 Ariadne: I can see how that can lead to giving systemd a more solid footing. But it all boils down to whether mdevd/libudev-zero is up to the task. [02:49] Ariadne skarnet and mps are both convinced it is [02:49] schestowitz plus dbus-launch and xdg-dbus-proxy [02:50] activelow i haven't only removed dbus, with gentoo the interfaces are gone with USE=-dbus (among other exclusions and masks) [02:50] XRevan86 Ariadne: "anyway, i had already concluded that my responses were too harsh" should've told me this sooner :) [02:50] kingoffrance re: x11 https://github.com/idunham/tinyxlib old, unmaintained, probably missing many things, but it was enough for me on a headless system just to display elsewhere using ssh. there were some slimmed down X libraries and servers, but seemed "marketed" for "embedded" things and probably not maintained etc. [02:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - idunham/tinyxlib: Tiny version of xlib, based on goingnuts' modifications of amigo's fork of an ancient xlib version. [02:50] schestowitz one dbus-daemons runs as a child process of systemd [02:51] activelow that's the reason, i'll not depart from gentoo, becauese it provides me tools and a tree to do things noone else does [02:51] Ariadne XRevan86: i publicly apologized for my harshness, and wrote a longer explanation by mail to chris directly. [02:51] Ariadne XRevan86: for what it's worth, WilliamH has tried to reset the working relationship with alpine [02:51] Ariadne the problem is, [02:52] Ariadne OpenRC is either a gentoo project, or it is not. [02:52] Ariadne gentoo believes it is, WilliamH says it is not. [02:53] XRevan86 Ariadne: "of being somewhat annoyed" the word "somewhat" is not really necessary. [02:53] XRevan86 In everything else, that's a good post. [02:53] Ariadne anyway, trying to get anything done in OpenRC has always been a battle [02:53] Ariadne so, Alpine gave up, and we have over a dozen patches and replace half the initscripts with our own versions [02:54] Ariadne it didn't have to be that way, and we tried to make it not that way, but at some point, you have to move on. [02:54] Ariadne which is why the future is s6 and not openrc [02:54] activelow don't understand your decision with openrc, since what is maintained with gentoo seems stable [02:55] Ariadne alpine is not gentoo [02:55] Ariadne what gentoo does with openrc is appropriate for gentoo [02:55] Ariadne alpine, by comparison, uses an entirely different networking management system [02:55] XRevan86 ifupdown? [02:55] Ariadne yeah [02:56] Ariadne we also use different userspace components that are not supported by Gentoo [02:56] activelow ok, i am not using any networking management at all, scripting this manually [02:56] Ariadne for example, in alpine, you can choose between busybox, GNU coreutils, 9base, sbase/ubase [02:56] Ariadne and we use a posixly-correct /bin/sh instead of bash [02:56] XRevan86 Ariadne: Was ifupdown2 considered? Or is it too overengineered or too different? [02:57] Ariadne ifupdown2 is python wtf [02:57] XRevan86 too overengineered, got it [02:57] Ariadne we considered ifupdown2 and wrote ifupdown-ng [02:57] Ariadne which is basically ifupdown2 done right [02:57] Ariadne activelow: we also want to use supervise-daemon(8) for everything [02:58] Ariadne supervise-daemon existed in alpine for much longer than it did in openrc proper [02:58] activelow granted, i can live without such [02:59] Ariadne anyway longterm [02:59] Ariadne i think openrc is probably not the future anywhere [02:59] Ariadne a lot of gentoo devs want systemd [02:59] Ariadne like mgorny [02:59] MinceR why don't they install fedora? [02:59] MinceR or rHELL, even [02:59] Ariadne its not the future in alpine, because we decided to build our own ● Sep 10 [03:00] XRevan86 Ariadne: Is there something to read to get a basic understanding of what s6 is about? [03:00] activelow just saying, i hacked and slayed down some gentoo magic for sake of simplicity, such as their genkernel init scripting was a headache for me [03:00] activelow anyway [03:00] XRevan86 I keep hearing about it, and I don't actually know what that is. [03:00] Ariadne XRevan86: https://skarnet.com/projects/service-manager.html [03:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-skarnet.com: projects [03:00] Ariadne XRevan86: this is what we were pitching sponsors with for grant funding for it [03:01] XRevan86 Ariadne: thanks [03:04] Ariadne basically, a key philosophy in alpine is that components *will* crash, and that the system should recover gracefully from failures [03:04] Ariadne OpenRC has only very basic support for this [03:05] XRevan86 Ariadne: Oh, absolutely. Certain MinceR's will say that that's a non-issue :P [03:05] Ariadne i don't think he will [03:05] MinceR no, certain MinceRs will say that if your daemon keeps crashing, it's broken and should be fixed :> [03:05] Ariadne ^ [03:05] Ariadne the daemon should be fixed, but the system should also recover from failure [03:05] XRevan86 MinceR: OOMKiller is a thing. [03:05] Ariadne both are desirable [03:06] MinceR in fact, i'm starting to wonder why systemd doesn't just reboot if a daemon dies unexpectedly [03:06] XRevan86 Sometimes daemons will die even when written properly. [03:06] MinceR it would fit much better with their whole windows worship thing [03:07] MinceR XRevan86: what do you mean? if oomkiller decides to kill your daemon, the appropriate response is to just automatically start it again and hope the oomkiller picks a better target next time? :> [03:07] XRevan86 MinceR: Who's going to start it again? [03:07] MinceR the sysadmin, for example [03:07] XRevan86 Sysadmin's tender hands? [03:07] MinceR after figuring out what went wrong and actually fixing it [03:07] XRevan86 Figures. [03:07] MinceR but yeah, if you want automatic restarts, go for it [03:08] MinceR it should probably be a conscious decision though [03:08] Ariadne giving up on restarts should happen after a while [03:08] XRevan86 MinceR: And they should know that it crashed by looking at top with an eagle eye? [03:08] Ariadne anyway there's multiple layers in play [03:08] Ariadne supervision is one part [03:09] activelow if I was forced to drop openrc, then it'll be some crude autoexec.bat style scripting only, and pkill to manage services [03:09] MinceR XRevan86: well, it would be nice if the service manager logged the crash [03:09] XRevan86 MinceR: Well, naturally. I just remember that we had this conversation before. [03:10] MinceR and now i remember something about automatic restarts possibly exacerbating security issues [03:10] Ariadne there is also more to process supervision than automatic restarts :p [03:11] MinceR :> [03:11] techrights-ipfs-bot Gemini requests since start of month: 157563 total Total pages: 37340 Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 3 months 2 days ago [03:11] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 1.9 GB TotalOut: 409 MB [03:11] techrights-ipfs-bot New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [03:11] XRevan86 Even making a process shut down is a lot easier with supervision. [03:13] Ariadne i have a project that is rewriting docker in C, incidentally [03:13] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.85 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 118.06 swarm size (avg): 262.18 [03:14] XRevan86 Ariadne: Related to security issues? :) [03:14] Ariadne related to lightweightness [03:15] kingoffrance generically, it probably veers towards process checkpointing, and then even migrating across machines (or, not even that, just a service might want x instances across y machines etc., whether they share "state" or not). so the vm stuff does all that nowadays, at a higher level perhaps i.e. migrate whole virtual machine. anyhow, even if not desired that level of granularity, nor the higher level, there are parallels across multiple machines [03:15] kingoffrance as well [03:15] techrights-ipfs-bot QmcMxMu1mpdqgj3DsyKreqYUhQWgSSuXM2hkpD8u5qhFQx [03:16] kingoffrance re: "there is re to process supervision than automatic restarts" [03:16] kingoffrance *more [03:16] XRevan86 Ariadne: So much interesting stuff [03:16] kingoffrance *migrate whole vm to another physical host [03:17] activelow cgroups/namespaces etc. and docker never convinced me; kvm virtual machines tend to be not administered sufficiently often [03:17] kingoffrance eh, i dont know any modern stuff, or old even, just cluster stuff always interested me, but i think modern world chose not that level of granularity [03:17] activelow admitted, i am not a hosting provider [03:18] kingoffrance for same reason across multiple machines: one machine crashing should not take down everything [03:18] kingoffrance its the same thing just at a broader level [03:18] kingoffrance replace "service" with "machine" [03:22] activelow if "user mode linux" had been maintained sufficiently, i probably had used it more often, even patched kernel recently to fix some bug with it [03:23] activelow anyway [03:23] kingoffrance yeah, im not sure if bsd jails are used much now with virtual machines so common [03:23] kingoffrance and with hw acceleration now [03:24] kingoffrance s/hw acceleration/cpu support/ [03:24] activelow tried that too, even implemented some configuration and script-frontend for qemu/kvm with bash (since the gui stuff and libvirt etc. were too bloated and crappy) [03:25] activelow probably some of the best management scripts for that, but didn't bother anymore [03:26] activelow and, i don't trust hardware supervisors [03:29] activelow idea is, which is implemented and tested, to create configured and bootable iso.images+data.img with gentoo tooling, and launch this with scripts, as a "user mode linux" or kvm qemu machine, uml is buggy; instead of docker or libvirt magic and whatever docker requires [03:30] activelow given i had written this in a few days, alone, this can compete with docker inc, lol [03:30] activelow maybe i'll ask EPO to patent bash scripts [03:30] activelow anyway, time to sleep [03:41] kingoffrance take previous comment back, i also needed xauth from xorg, for ssh x forwarding, but it worked with that tinyxlib [03:42] kingoffrance no ipv6, but i didnt care [03:46] *job has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:48] *job (~job@mpc6fp9vxphwn.irc) has joined #techrights ● Sep 10 [04:14] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.41 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 125.75 swarm size (avg): 262.15 [04:16] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:28] *sears_hardware has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:50] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) ● Sep 10 [05:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [05:12] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 35.71 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 118.33 swarm size (avg): 262.11 [05:23] techrights-news #Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, September 09, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [05:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [05:24] techrights-news #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [05:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [05:27] techrights-news Finalising next article aboyt #latvia , ETA 6AM/30 mins. #epo #corruption #techrights [05:31] techrights-news "Virologist David LV Bauer recognizes that vaccination is crucial protection against Covid-19. He explains how anti-vaxxers took a statement out of context and used it to misrepresent him as an anti-vaxxer." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#9_September_2021_(Vaccination_out_of_context) [05:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [05:32] techrights-news #California bill seeks to halt prison-to-ICE deportation pipeline https://www.reuters.com/world/us/california-bill-seeks-halt-prison-to-ice-deportation-pipeline-2021-09-07/ [05:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-California bill seeks to halt prison-to-ICE deportation pipeline | Reuters [05:44] techrights-news Manjaro Cinnamon changes to Firefox from Vivaldi as default web http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155438#comment-30922browser [05:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Forget Firefox, Vivaldi Steals Default Browser Spot In Popular Linux Distro | Tux Machines [05:45] techrights-news Best Linux Text Editors: The 20 Text and HTML Editors Reviewed http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155476 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [05:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Linux Text Editors: The 20 Text and HTML Editors Reviewed | Tux Machines [05:45] techrights-news Top 15+ Fast and Secure Remote Desktop Clients for Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155477 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [05:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 15+ Fast and Secure Remote Desktop Clients for Linux | Tux Machines [05:50] techrights-news #Privacy -Screen DRM API With Intel Support Ready Now That GNOME Is Prepared To Use It http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155484 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [05:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Privacy-Screen DRM API With Intel Support Ready Now That GNOME Is Prepared To Use It | Tux Machines [05:54] techrights-news #WindowsDefender = #microsoft #security THEATRE. If they wanted to really protect you, they'd delete WINDOWS ITSELF. Also #nsa back doors are considered OK, so don't tell us about security... http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA [05:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [05:54] techrights-news This thing (nis)named #WindowsDefender is only trying to defend #microsoft from competition [05:57] techrights-news #WindowsDefender says torrent is bad. Because you might download an operating system that is not #windows ... same when you try to get #qemu even from official sources. #microsoft #antitrust violation, but who would bother when they bribe and mislead authorities? http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/ [05:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights [05:58] techrights-news #microsoft = organised crime, thinly disguised as a company that makes something (as opposed to buying companies that do, sometimes using moles like Elop) http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/ [05:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and Slush Funds | Techrights ● Sep 10 [06:04] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155485 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [06:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [06:08] techrights-news EPO Expos: The Besieged Baltic States Part IXX The #EUIPO Connection THigHT http://techrights.org/2021/09/10/baltic-euipo-connection/ #Techrights #Europe #EPO #Latvia | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/10/baltic-euipo-connection/ [06:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Expos: The Besieged Baltic States Part IXX The EUIPO Connection | Techrights [06:12] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.68 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 142.18 swarm size (avg): 262.08 [06:15] techrights-news "I thought #IBM decide to close down all offices due to delta? You'd have to be nuts to even consider going back in the office." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cIOKnBM#replies [06:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Are IBMers heading back to office today ? - post regarding IBM layoffs [06:16] techrights-news "Not the case with maximum ibmers as #ibm hasn't got that much money LOL " https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cKiRnF7#replies [06:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | If you don't leave in 2021, you never will! - post regarding IBM layoffs [06:18] techrights-news #Mikron MIK32 - Made in Russia 32-bit RISC-V MCU offers features similar to STM32L0 MCU - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/09/10/mikron-mik32-made-in-russia-32-bit-risc-v-mcu-stm32l0-mcu/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware [06:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Mikron MIK32 - Made in Russia 32-bit RISC-V MCU offers features similar to STM32L0 MCU - CNX Software [06:20] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:20] techrights-news #ArcoLinux 21.09.11 is released. https://www.arcolinux.info/ #gnu #linux [06:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.arcolinux.info | ArcoLinux | ArcoLinux [06:22] techrights-news "supports the Unity Operating System (UOS) and Kylin both of which are Linux distributions for the Chinese market" but those should be offered as PREINSTALLED (or option for it). DO NOT impose #microsoft #malware with #nsa back doors on people. https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/09/10/beelink-lzx-a-zhaoxin-kx-6640ma-based-x86-mini-pc/ [06:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Beelink LZX - A Zhaoxin KX-6640MA based x86 Mini PC you may never see - CNX Software [06:23] techrights-news The Baltic crusade of Tony, son of the Carnation Revolution, goes more than a decade back http://techrights.org/2021/09/10/baltic-euipo-connection/ #Techrights #latvia #riga #euipo #epo | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/10/baltic-euipo-connection/ [06:29] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights ● Sep 10 [07:09] techrights-news [Meme] The Coloniser Campinos, Preying on the Poor http://techrights.org/2021/09/10/campinos-colonies/ #epo #euipo #africa #latvia #patents [07:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] The Coloniser Campinos, Preying on the Poor | Techrights [07:10] techrights-news NEWS #EricWBailey #Programming What they dont tell you when you translate your app https://ericwbailey.design/writing/what-they-dont-tell-you-when-you-translate-your-app/ [07:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ericwbailey.design | What they dont tell you when you translate your app Eric Bailey [07:12] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.08 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 72.15 swarm size (avg): 262.05 [07:12] techrights-news NEWS #TheVerge #Surveillance #Privacy #Twitter takes on #Facebook Groups with invite-only Communities https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/8/22661649/twitter-releases-communities-facebook-groups-reddit-competitor farming people and their secrets [07:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Twitter launches Communities, its Facebook Groups and Reddit rival - The Verge [07:15] techrights-news NEWS #IndiaTimes #Surveillance #Privacy #Facebook developing machine learning chip: Report https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/next-gen-technologies/facebook-developing-machine-learning-chip-report/86072325 data-mining minds [07:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Facebook developing machine learning chip: Report, IT News, ET CIO [07:15] techrights-news NEWS #TheVerge #Surveillance #Privacy #Twitter is beginning to test labels for bot accounts https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/9/22665748/twitter-automated-account-bot-labels-tweets-test farming people [07:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Twitter is beginning to test labels for bot accounts - The Verge [07:16] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [07:18] techrights-news NEWS #EuropeanCommission #Politics The impact of Open Source Software and Hardware on technological independence, competitiveness and innovation in the EU economy: Final Study Report https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/dae/redirection/document/79021 [07:20] techrights-news NEWS #TheHill #Misinformation Warren urges #Amazon to fix algorithm 'feeding misinformation loops' https://thehill.com/policy/technology/571355-warren-urges-amazon-to-fix-algorithm-feeding-misinformation-loops [07:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Warren urges Amazon to fix algorithm 'feeding misinformation loops' | TheHill [07:20] techrights-news NEWS #RTL #Misinformation This image from an episode of The Simpsons has been digitally altered to add a reference to vaccines https://today.rtl.lu/news/fact-check/a/1784284.html [07:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - Fact Check: This image from an episode of The Simpsons has been digitally altered to add a reference to vaccines [07:26] techrights-news NEWS #Bloomberg #Monopolies U.S. Antitrust Cops Unveil Data Backing #Facebook #Monopoly Case https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-08/u-s-antitrust-cops-unveil-data-backing-facebook-monopoly-case [07:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? [07:32] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights ● Sep 10 [08:06] *mib_12pynu (~4f8f6ffc@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [08:12] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.03 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 92.96 swarm size (avg): 262.03 [08:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [08:25] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:29] techrights-news #china impact on what we see and cannot see ... https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/hollywood-should-stop-self-censoring-to-appease-china-ppdkkcmlk paywall [08:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thetimes.co.uk | Hollywood should stop self-censoring to appease China | Comment | The Times [08:36] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:38] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [08:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [08:42] techrights-news Cancel the #patents https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/09/09/health-advocates-say-bidens-global-covid-19-summit-must-be-more-just-pr #patent #monopolies #hoarding #greed [08:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Health Advocates Say Biden's Global Covid-19 Summit Must Be 'More Than Just PR' | Common Dreams News [08:46] techrights-news #atlassian was bad enough already; now it'll be joined by #proprietarySoftware people from #clownflare too https://itwire.com/people-moves/cloudflare-co-founder-joins-atlassian-board.html #cloudflare #surveillance [08:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Cloudflare co-founder joins Atlassian board [08:48] techrights-news #programming with shell scripts https://odysee.com/@DistroTube:2/how-to-use-shell-environment-variables:4 I did some shell scripting for gemini as recently as yesterday; it is super-portable, unlike #programming 'frameworks' [08:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | How To Use Shell Environment Variables [08:50] techrights-news #techrights is on pace or en route to exceeding 500,000 page requests over gemini:// for this month alone [08:52] techrights-news #yle at 95. https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/yle_celebrates_95_years_of_public_service_broadcasting/12092272 it helped us with http://techrights.org/2021/08/26/finland-good-brother-networks/ [08:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Yle celebrates 95 years of public service broadcasting | Yle Uutiset | yle.fi [08:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Expos: The Besieged Baltic States Part IV Martti Enjrvi and His Good Brother Networks | Techrights [08:53] techrights-news #ibm and #patentTrolls for #swpats in #europe https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/dae/redirection/document/79021 they claim to speak for "Open Source"... [08:55] techrights-news #EPO President #AntnioCampinos is still doing in former Portuguese colonies what #BenotBattistelli used to do in former French #colonies (and beyond) http://techrights.org/2021/09/10/campinos-colonies/#comments #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/10/campinos-colonies/#comments [08:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] The Coloniser Campinos, Preying on the Poor | Techrights [08:56] techrights-news #IRC Proceedings: Thursday, September 09, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/09/10/irc-log-090921/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/10/irc-log-090921/ [08:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Thursday, September 09, 2021 | Techrights [08:59] techrights-news #geminiSpace growing: "Currently, our database includes 371,501 URIs" gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi 160k requests in 9 days (Sept.) in #techrights : gemini://gemini.techrights.org/stats/index.gmi ● Sep 10 [09:00] techrights-news Peter Hansteen: Recent and not entirely recent changes in #OpenBSD that make life better https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=no&u=https://www.digi.no/artikler/debatt-nylige-og-ikke-helt-nylige-endringer-i-openbsd-som-gjor-livet-bedre/512893 [09:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate [09:01] techrights-news #OpenBSD : - What lured me into this https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=no&u=https://www.digi.no/artikler/debatt-openbsd-det-som-lokket-meg-inn-i-dette/513068 #bsd #unix [09:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate [09:02] schestowitz x https://www.pcworld.com/article/3632791/unpatched-office-attack-targets-people-who-trust-every-file.html [09:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Unpatched Office attack reminds us: Don't click on risky docs | PCWorld [09:02] schestowitz # blaming the victim; it is sold for the purpose of "clicking on documents" [09:04] techrights-news They also use this report to push #swpats in #europe https://mastodon.social/@danie10/106900787810403583 hardly surprising given who's behind it: http://techrights.org/2021/01/31/openforum-europe-lf/ [09:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Danie van der Merwe : "European Commission Report Declares Open Source S" - Mastodon [09:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | OpenForum Europe (IBM et al) and Linux Foundation Are Boosting and Cooperating With Enemies of Software Freedom | Techrights [09:05] schestowitz x https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/571380-microsoft-warns-of-hackers-exploiting-windows-vulnerability [09:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft warns of hackers exploiting Windows vulnerability | TheHill [09:05] schestowitz # shifting the blame [09:06] techrights-news The criminals of #Microsoft are once again shifting blame for their shoddy 'software', blaming either the users or the attackers... while putting back doors in their OWN software: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA [09:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [09:07] techrights-news ...it is notable or noteworthy, moreover, that #microsoft spreads #racism for profit http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/ [09:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Weaponises (and Further Spreads) Racism to Distract From Its Own Incompetence (and Five Eyes Collusion for Back Door Access) | Techrights [09:08] techrights-news #microsoft #windows and other Microsoft stuff is not designed to be used by the computer owner by the software owner (Microsoft) and the #nsa et al [09:09] techrights-news Blaming users for opening malicious documents overlooks the facts that documents aren't supposed to run programs. Not that today's #www is much better, even without #activeX .... [09:12] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.08 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 131.86 swarm size (avg): 262.01 [09:19] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [09:21] *inky_ (~inky@46.162.230.165) has joined #techrights [09:51] techrights-news NEWS #CreativeCommons Meet the CC Summit Presenter: Juan Miguel Palma Pea https://creativecommons.org/2021/09/09/meet-the-cc-summit-presenter-juan-miguel-palma-pena/ nevertheless: http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/an-elephant-in-the-room-creative-commons/ [09:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Meet the CC Summit Presenter: Juan Miguel Palma Pea - Creative Commons [09:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Has CC Become a Google Drone? | Techrights [09:54] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights ● Sep 10 [10:01] *CrystalMath (~coderain@m6nknc8dg4uwi.irc) has joined #techrights [10:02] gustaf activelow: this might interest you https://mattstoller.substack.com/p/counterfeit-capitalism-why-a-monopolized [10:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mattstoller.substack.com | Counterfeit Capitalism: Why a Monopolized Economy Leads to Inflation and Shortages - by Matt Stoller - BIG by Matt Stoller [10:04] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [10:04] *mib_a5ophl (~4f8f6ffc@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [10:05] *mib_a5ophl has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [10:06] gustaf chip manufacture is mentioned! [10:08] techrights-news NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux Remembering Intel 740 | Custom PC #218 https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/remembering-intel-740-custom-pc-218/ [10:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Remembering Intel 740 | Custom PC #218 - Raspberry Pi [10:08] *mib_12pynu has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [10:09] techrights-news NEWS #EFF EFF Activists To Lead Protest Demanding #Apple Cancel iPhone Scanning Program and Keep Its #Privacy Promises To Customers https://www.eff.org/press/releases/eff-activists-lead-protest-demanding-apple-cancel-iphone-scanning-program-and-keep [10:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | EFF Activists To Lead Protest Demanding Apple Cancel iPhone Scanning Program and Keep Its Privacy Promises To Customers | Electronic Frontier Foundation [10:13] *m___ (~Adium@axe8sdwa9qgju.irc) has joined #techrights [10:15] m___ New user sending a test message [10:16] CrystalMath m___: test completed successfully [10:17] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [10:18] techrights-news #pfizer https://nitter.eu/Lanna70115/status/1436241133336674304 [10:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Lanna Rene' #FreeAssange (@Lanna70115): "I guess I am going to lose my job. The dental office I work at accepts Medicaid/Medicare. I can't get fully vaccinated because I had a severe reaction to Pfizer vaccine. I was hospitalized for 3 days. The cardiologist recommended me to not get second shot." | nitter [10:20] techrights-news NEWS #EFF #Surveillance The Catalog of Carceral Surveillance: #Prison Gaming and AR/VR Services https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/09/carceral-surveillance-catalog-prison-gaming-and-arvr-services [10:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | The Catalog of Carceral Surveillance: Prison Gaming and AR/VR Services | Electronic Frontier Foundation [10:21] gustaf lol [10:21] kingoffrance one thing interesting about " Why a Monopolized Economy Leads to Inflation and Shortages" is that efficiency is the initial reason (as it states) ...but then a monopoly creates bottlenecks on purpose. so you dont even get the supposed "efficiency". "efficient for who and what" maybe :) [10:22] kingoffrance *initial justification [10:23] gustaf that's why you need to temper the inherent drive towards efficiency with regulation [10:23] gustaf unbridled capitalism leads to monopolies [10:24] kingoffrance heraclitus "things become their opposites" maybe :) [10:24] kingoffrance "efficiency" -> bottleneck is more profitable [10:25] techrights-news NEWS #EFF Dont Stop Now: Join EFF, Fight for the Future at Apple Protests Nationwide https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/09/dont-stop-now-join-eff-fight-future-apple-protests-nationwide [10:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Dont Stop Now: Join EFF, Fight for the Future at Apple Protests Nationwide | Electronic Frontier Foundation [10:33] gustaf exactly ! [10:36] gustaf I've read that prohibition-era laws against big brewers sorta helped American craft beer later [10:44] kingoffrance https://mattstoller.substack.com/p/wework-and-counterfeit-capitalism there is a good note there too: Capitalism works because companies that thrive take a bunch of inputs and create a product that is more valuable than the sum of its parts [...] What predatory pricing does is to enable competition purely based on access to capital. [10:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mattstoller.substack.com | WeWork and Counterfeit Capitalism - by Matt Stoller - BIG by Matt Stoller [10:44] kingoffrance its another example; create something -> sell it -> reinvest profits wherever gets transformed into "make money" "access to capital" [10:44] gustaf yep [10:45] gustaf productive work as oppose to rentiers [10:45] activelow noted gustaf [10:46] kingoffrance well not even that, just "capital" was the means to make something, not supposed to be the goal in and of itself ; some actual goal, anything, beyond " i want money". if everyone is a financier, nothing gets made either, it cant scale [10:47] kingoffrance i mean even besides "productive" versus "rentiers" it has been inversed [10:48] kingoffrance *one of the means, i dont know exact terms [10:50] kingoffrance that latter one calls it "money-losing business" so my take is overly simplistic maybe [10:51] kingoffrance if they have endless "access to capital" they can do that i guess [10:51] activelow resilient supply chains, long-term reliable manufacturing and education are *externalized* costs, and the risks not accounted for with globalized economy [10:52] kingoffrance yep, like the first link noted, there is some divorce between reality that doesnt show up in the stats [10:54] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #Patents #monopolies #greed Opinion | Vaccine Mandates and #Patent Waivers for the Common Good https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/09/09/vaccine-mandates-and-patent-waivers-common-good [10:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Vaccine Mandates and Patent Waivers for the Common Good | Joseph Stiglitz [10:54] kingoffrance i suppose, it would seem endless access to capital -> money-losing business -> still seems they hope to long-term destroy a market, so is "efficiency" like cancer i guess, and long-term the investors hope to benefit. in a way it is "long-term" at the cost of everyone else [10:55] gustaf yep [10:55] gustaf activelow: agree [10:55] kingoffrance words get twisted around depending whose eyes you look through :) [10:55] gustaf also provocative http://blog.khinsen.net/posts/2020/02/26/the-rise-of-community-owned-monopolies/ [10:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.khinsen.net | The rise of community-owned monopolies [10:55] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Digital Death Penalty? Legal Battle over Piracy Disconnections Heats Up in Appeals Court https://torrentfreak.com/digital-death-penalty-legal-battle-over-piracy-disconnections-heats-up-in-appeals-court-210909/ [10:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Digital Death Penalty? Legal Battle over Piracy Disconnections Heats Up in Appeals Court * TorrentFreak [10:55] gustaf kingoffrance: agree, a word like "capitalism" is meaningless [10:56] kingoffrance ^^^ [10:56] gustaf it's gnerally meant to be free enterprice / independent judiciary / enforcement of contracts etc etc [10:56] gustaf but it's simply boiled down to "getting rich" ● Sep 10 [11:00] activelow i remember when, with a financial crisis, small business wasn't competitive anymore, and banks denied granting credit even when profits were made, since these were below capital market growth [11:01] kingoffrance john moody, the masters of capital, 1921 opening pages (paraphrase) the men whom americans call private bankers are known in england as merchants -- as they remember where/how they got their start anyhow, implies that time period was a shift where "capital" became liquid, whereas prior definition might've been more 'solid' (some actual good, asset, whatever). compare "access to capital" [11:01] activelow such as investing into railway did generate less cash than generating cash with cash at stock exchange [11:01] kingoffrance dont trust me, just skimmed it, it is on archive.org [11:01] kingoffrance i quote that just because, people will try to "ad hominem" so moody is someone americans shouldnt argue with :) [11:02] kingoffrance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moody's_Investors_Service [11:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Moody's Investors Service - Wikipedia [11:02] kingoffrance not that he is so great whatever, i really dont know these things, just to show he saw a shift [11:02] kingoffrance that seems lost to history nowadays "capital" [11:03] activelow btw. this phenomena in fact was explained by some more radical "austrian school" capitalist economers, who argued with "opportunity costs" and mislead pricing signals [11:03] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [11:03] activelow which leads to "mal-investment" "theory", such as generating profit with dumping cash into Facebook or Netflix generated more profit than investing into Lattice Semi or Zilog [11:04] activelow due to bail-out and quantitative easing of uncompetitive business, "boom", "bust" [11:08] kingoffrance what i understand its 99% not paper anyways. so "capital doesnt mean anything" credit is more accurate i think, its access to credit. minor point, but i think that is all related [11:08] kingoffrance not advocating gold or whatever, just part of the shift i believe [11:08] kingoffrance *not even paper [11:11] activelow austrian economers too explain the unavoidable systemic collapse ignited by mislead pricing (due to bail-out and quantitative easing), which too ruins busienss and economy even if it was "competitive" and "productive" [11:12] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.73 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 32.76 swarm size (avg): 261.98 [11:12] activelow "competitive" and "productive" business could not compete anymore with finance, since finance and stock exchange benefit from "risk free" bail-outs, which any other business had to take risks, and costs for education and staff and manufacturing are always higher than printing paper money [11:17] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [11:19] kingoffrance let me rephrase: i quote moody because otherwise ppl will accuse you of "envy" or not knowing anything because you arent in the industry/whatever [11:26] techrights-news #Valve Releases Major Steam Client Update with New Downloads Page, Linux Improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155486 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Valve Releases Major Steam Client Update with New Downloads Page, Linux Improvements | Tux Machines [11:26] techrights-news #Cozy modern audio book player http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155487 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cozy modern audio book player | Tux Machines [11:27] techrights-news Building an open source community health analytics platform http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155488 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Building an open source community health analytics platform | Tux Machines [11:34] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155489 #Linux #TuxMachines [11:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [11:37] kingoffrance quote Scientists are starting to adopt heavy technology with large overheads in terms of complexity and invested effort to work around the problem (if you didnt guess yet, I am referring to containers) lol [11:42] techrights-news What #Patent #Colonialism Looks Like http://techrights.org/2021/09/10/epo-patent-colonialism/ #Techrights #EPO #Patents | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/10/epo-patent-colonialism/ [11:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | What Patent Colonialism Looks Like | Techrights [11:53] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:53] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@fici29dumxqp6.irc) has joined #techrights [11:53] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [11:59] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights ● Sep 10 [12:00] *activelow (~activelow@r4fmhhyhij4qk.irc) has joined #techrights [12:02] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [12:02] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.114.205) has joined #techrights [12:09] techrights-news [Meme] 'Open Source' Study/Report From the #EuropeanCommission Promotes #SoftwarePatents in #Europe http://techrights.org/2021/09/10/study-european-commission/ h/t @zoobab of @ffii #swpats [12:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Open Source Study/Report From the European Commission Promotes Software Patents in Europe | Techrights [12:10] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [12:14] techrights-news Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155490 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [12:17] kingoffrance yes, that sounds like another inversion " All effort can thus be concentrated on gaining new users, which leads to the paradoxical situation that the needs of non-users have a larger weight in strategic decisions than the needs of the user base. With backwards compatibility being costly, boring, and irrelevant to the non-users that matter for the future, why care about it?" [12:18] kingoffrance maybe not so black and white, but makes sense [12:18] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #ATandT Whines About Spectrum Hoarding Now That #TMobile Is Doing It https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210907/10581247517/att-whines-about-spectrum-hoarding-now-that-t-mobile-is-doing-it.shtml [12:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AT&T Whines About Spectrum Hoarding Now That T-Mobile Is Doing It | Techdirt [12:20] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #RuneScape Another Mod War: Jagex Demands Shutdown Of HD RuneScape Mod, Retracts After Public Backlash https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210909/10183947532/another-mod-war-jagex-demands-shutdown-hd-runescape-mod-retracts-after-public-backlash.shtml [12:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Another Mod War: Jagex Demands Shutdown Of HD RuneScape Mod, Retracts After Public Backlash | Techdirt [12:31] techrights-news #eON or #EONNext #Energy Limited Possibly the #UK s Worst Energy Supplier http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/09/10/eon-next-energy-limited/ [12:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive e.ON or E.ON Next Energy Limited Possibly the UKs Worst Energy Supplier [12:42] gustaf also the "Thatcherite" movement to open investment to "normal people" - pension funds etc - means if you let those fail, you will have a lot of angry voters next election [12:47] activelow pension fund exposure to speculation is only an alternative mechanism of re/distribution, and it isn't an investment as such [12:47] activelow fees for private pension fund management are higher than state social security [12:49] activelow the only benefit additional pension funds have in germany are these are excempt from accounted for as income or savings in case of unemployment [12:49] activelow because, maximum savings are capped in germany, for social security unemployment benefits; and private pension funds are excempt from this cap [12:50] *psydroid3 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [12:55] gustaf yeah [12:58] activelow taxation of this is another problem, savings dumped into a private pension often are already heavily taxed, and at pension age income from a private pension fund is taxed again [12:59] activelow hence, a german supreme court intervened a few weeks ago, this violated some legal criteria which i don't remember in detail ● Sep 10 [13:00] activelow nonetheless, pension fund savings are recommended, if possible; i terminated my contract 2013 already [13:04] activelow "inflation in germany at record level in 28 years", recent report on phoenix news channel. [13:06] gustaf plenty of commodities have risen in price [13:12] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 17.83 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 82.78 swarm size (avg): 261.95 ● Sep 10 [14:22] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:31] *gde35 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) [14:32] *AdmFubar has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:32] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [14:41] *user_ (~dminkovsky@vcz9vqdaej744.irc) has joined #techrights ● Sep 10 [15:00] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #techrights [15:02] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [15:02] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:12] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.53 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 71.93 swarm size (avg): 261.92 [15:20] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt Damned If You Do; Damned If You Don't: ProPublica's Bizarre Reporting On #WhatsApp Abuse Reports https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210908/17311947529/damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-dont-propublicas-bizarre-reporting-whatsapp-abuse-reports.shtml [15:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Damned If You Do; Damned If You Don't: ProPublica's Bizarre Reporting On WhatsApp Abuse Reports | Techdirt [15:22] techrights-news This video discusses the latest two news items from the EPO (first in about a month!) and part 19 of the current series, which ends tomorrow http://techrights.org/2021/09/10/epo-patent-colonialism/ #Techrights #EPO #Europe #Corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/10/epo-patent-colonialism/ [15:23] techrights-news #OpenForum Europe and a German #patenttroll have issued this report, which on the surface looks like advocacy regarding (or for) software freedom until one looks more closely http://techrights.org/2021/09/10/study-european-commission/ #swpats #europe [15:29] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #sharing #openaccess #science #SciHub Celebrates 10 Years Of Existence, With A Record 88 Million Papers Available, And A Call For Funds To Help It Add AI And Go Open Source https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210908/03560147519/sci-hub-celebrates-10-years-existence-with-record-88-million-papers-available-call-funds-to-help-it-add-ai-go-open-source.shtml [15:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sci-Hub Celebrates 10 Years Of Existence, With A Record 88 Million Papers Available, And A Call For Funds To Help It Add AI And Go Open Source | Techdirt [15:30] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Connecticut Court Orders Blogger To Turn Over Electronic Devices To Cop Suing Over Alleged #Defamation By Blog's Commenters https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210902/16521747491/connecticut-court-orders-blogger-to-turn-over-electronic-devices-to-cop-suing-over-alleged-defamation-blogs-commenters.shtml [15:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Connecticut Court Orders Blogger To Turn Over Electronic Devices To Cop Suing Over Alleged Defamation By Blog's Commenters | Techdirt [15:41] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155491 [15:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:46] *job has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:52] techrights-news Links 10/9/2021: Firefox Ads and Sci-Hub Turns 10 http://techrights.org/2021/09/10/sci-hub-turns-10/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/10/sci-hub-turns-10/ [15:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 10/9/2021: Firefox Ads and Sci-Hub Turns 10 | Techrights [15:53] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155492 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [15:53] techrights-news #devices leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155493 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | devices leftovers | Tux Machines [15:55] techrights-news "For most normal gamers it probably won't be a hugely relevant talk but for developers it could be an interesting one. The main thing is that #GNU #Linux had a presence at such a huge industry event." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/open-source-in-games-how-to-save-your-studio-time-and-effort [15:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open source in games: How to save your studio time and effort | GamingOnLinux [15:56] techrights-news "Spine is an upcoming PlayStation 4 emulator that's currently closed-source while it's under heavy development. It's also currently only available for Linux." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/ps4-emulator-spine-gets-a-new-demo-release [15:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PS4 emulator Spine gets a new demo release | GamingOnLinux ● Sep 10 [16:09] techrights-news #Brazil 's Restrictive New #SocialControlMedia Rules Could Be an Omen For the Future of the #Internet https://time.com/6096704/brazil-social-media-rules/ [16:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What Brazil's New Social Media Rules Mean For the Internet | Time [16:11] techrights-news "While this is generally true some of the systems in use today are rather dated (to put it mildly). A great example is the method that pilots use in poor visibility to find the runway; their Instrument Landing System (ILS), a technology invented in 1929." https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/efb-tampering-the-human-factor/ [16:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pentestpartners.com | EFB Tampering. The Human Factor | Pen Test Partners [16:15] techrights-news Linux 5.15 Readies More Code For Compile & Run-Time Detection Of Buffer Overflows - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.15-More-BO-Detection #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/10/#latest [16:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.15 Readies More Code For Compile & Run-Time Detection Of Buffer Overflows - Phoronix [16:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [16:16] techrights-news #Surveillance state incoming with #Australia s hacking bill - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/surveillance-state-incoming-with-australias-hacking-bill/ #accessnow [16:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Surveillance state incoming with Australias hacking bill - Access Now [16:18] techrights-news "The order has been circulating on social media, but is not available on the Government websites. The order does not lay out a factual justification for why the internet suspension is required, and does not justify the geographical extent of the suspension either." https://internetfreedom.in/as-the-farmers-protests-see-widespread-internet-shutdowns-iff-writes-to-the-haryana-home-ministry-urging-restraint/ [16:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internetfreedom.in | IFF wrote to the Haryana Government urging restraint on internet shutdowns [16:19] techrights-news #PipeWire Media Server 0.3.35 Released https://pipewire.org/ [16:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pipewire.org | PipeWire [16:22] techrights-news Why you should be more concerned about #internet shutdowns https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/09/1035237/internet-shutdowns-censorship-exponential-jigsaw-google/ [16:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technologyreview.com | Why you should be more concerned about internet shutdowns | MIT Technology Review [16:23] techrights-news #RayBan working with the #stasi on #espionage https://www.newsweek.com/facebook-live-smart-glasses-ray-ban-launch-1627443 give no money to the parent company of Ray-Ban (all the brands)... [16:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsweek.com | Live Updates: Facebook to Unveil Ray-Ban Smart Glasses [16:26] techrights-news #GNOME 41 RC1 Download with fixes beta bugs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155432#comment-30925 [16:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 41 Release Candidate Is Out with Last Minute Bug Fixes and Improvements | Tux Machines [16:30] techrights-news " #WordPress 5.4-5.8 are affected by multiple vulnerabilities. An attacker could exploit these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected website." https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2021/09/10/wordpress-releases-security-update [16:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-us-cert.cisa.gov | WordPress Releases Security Update | CISA [16:30] techrights-news Games: Steam, Free Software, Tux and Fanny http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155495 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Steam, Free Software, Tux and Fanny | Tux Machines [16:30] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155494 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [16:31] techrights-news Six #Standards Recommendations for the #Biden Administration https://www.consortiuminfo.org/laws-regulations-and-litigation/six-standards-recommendations-for-the-biden-administration/ [16:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Six Standards Recommendations for Biden - ConsortiumInfo.orgConsortiumInfo.org [16:36] techrights-news HEY HI HEY HI.... selling #hardware using buzzwords https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Hababa-Labs-Open-Compiler-AI "did we mention HEY HI???" [16:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Habana Labs Opens Up The Code To Their AI Compiler, SynapseAI Core - Phoronix [16:37] techrights-news Moving Forward After #CentOS 8 EOL https://thehackernews.com/2021/09/moving-forward-after-centos-8-eol.html #thehackernews #ibm #redhat [16:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehackernews.com | Moving Forward After CentOS 8 EOL [16:39] techrights-news #phoronix compares #microsoft #vaourware like Service Pack '11' to existing things... :/ [16:40] techrights-news #Ext4 vs #XFS Which Filesystem Should You Use https://linoxide.com/ext4-vs-xfs-which-one-to-choose/ #linoxide | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/10/#latest [16:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linoxide.com | Ext4 vs XFS Which Filesystem Should You Use [16:43] techrights-news #OpenSnitch Application Firewall 1.4.0 Adds eBPF And nftables Support, Allow/Block Lists http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155496 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenSnitch Application Firewall 1.4.0 Adds eBPF And nftables Support, Allow/Block Lists | Tux Machines [16:48] techrights-news #ibm #redhat #fedora "Being a community of diverse people from various backgrounds" https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/call-for-projects-and-mentors-for-outreachy-december-march-cohort/ racist liars: http://techrights.org/2021/08/20/we-build-fedora-and-then-ibm-blacklists-us/ [16:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Call for Projects and Mentors for Outreachy December-March Cohort Fedora Community Blog [16:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Imperialistic Blacklist Machines: Racist IBM and Red Hat Just Like Donald Trump Have Turned Fedora Into an Utterly Racist Project That Blacklists, Shuns and Permanently Bans People Based on Their Nationality Alone | Techrights [16:50] techrights-news #Kernel: AMD/Radeon, Ext4 vs XFS, and Latest in inux 5.15 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155497 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines [16:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: AMD/Radeon, Ext4 vs XFS, and Latest in inux 5.15 | Tux Machines [16:53] techrights-news #freesw talent: how to capture it https://opensource.com/article/21/9/open-source-recruiting don't do what #ibm does. It has already caused many people from #redhat to flee.... [16:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-5 tips for recruiting an open source job candidate | Opensource.com [16:55] *m___ (~Adium@axe8sdwa9qgju.irc) has joined #techrights [16:55] techrights-news Those are mostly #gnu rather than #linux but #ibm #redhat is still trying to 'kill' the founder of GNU/Linux to rewrite history https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-text-manipulation-tools [16:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | 3 must-know Linux commands for text manipulation | Enable Sysadmin [16:55] *mib_6uy99i (~4f8f6ffc@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [16:56] techrights-news #System76 Updates The 15" Pangolin with Ryzen http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155194#comment-30926 [16:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU/Linux Laptops | Tux Machines [16:59] techrights-news #ibm #redhat is #cloudwashing https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/when-everything-cloud-does-os-matter again #clownComputing #buzzwords #nonsense [16:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | When everything is in the cloud, does the OS matter? ● Sep 10 [17:02] techrights-news #ProtonMail is not a legitimate #privacy tool. #FalseMarketing #sellout https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2021/09/protonmail-now-keeps-ip-logs.html [17:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ProtonMail Now Keeps IP Logs - Schneier on Security [17:03] techrights-news #clowncomputing = you rely on lies told to you by #marketing people of another company/entity https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/07/protonmail_hands_user_ip_address_police/ [17:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | ProtonMail deletes 'we don't log your IP' boast from website after French climate activist reportedly arrested The Register [17:05] techrights-news #IBM #/RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155498 #GNU #Linux [17:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:07] techrights-news #liveslak -1.3.10 and new ISO images for #Slackware Live Edition http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155499 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | liveslak-1.3.10 and new ISO images for Slackware Live Edition | Tux Machines [17:10] techrights-news "ProtonMail is an open-source webmail client distributed and licensed under GNU "General Public License" version 3." But the upstream provider is a rat/snitch https://medevel.com/neutron/ [17:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Neutron: A Libre Mail server for Proton Webmail client [17:11] techrights-news "We're wrapping up another great week with the following activities from the Apache community..." https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-news-round-up243 [17:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.apache.org | The Apache News Round-up: week ending 10 September 2021 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog [17:12] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.45 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 59.00 swarm size (avg): 261.89 [17:12] techrights-news "Debian 11 (Bullseye) comes with the mlt framework 6.24.0 and kdenlive 20.12.3. Unfortunately it was already too late (freeze) to build mlt with enabled OpenCV features, this are also required to use the motion tracker features, which are now still missing in the pure stable release." https://www.linux-dev.org/2021/09/kdenlive-mlt-status-in-debian-bullseye/ [17:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux-dev.org | kdenlive / mlt status in Debian Bullseye | Blog of Patrick [17:16] techrights-news More of that very typical FUD trying to blame #Golang and #Google because people can write malicious software in some particular language. It also blames "Linux" even though it's not clear how the malicious programs get there in the first place and what that has to do with #Linux https://siliconangle.com/2021/09/09/new-chachi-malware-variant-designed-target-linux-systems/ [17:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New ChaChi malware variant designed to target Linux systems - SiliconANGLE [17:16] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:18] techrights-news "The build centers around a Raspberry Pi 4 and a 7 LCD display" https://hackaday.com/2021/09/09/musical-cyberdeck-is-part-synth-part-midi-controller-and-all-cool/ [17:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Musical Cyberdeck Is Part Synth, Part MIDI Controller, And All Cool | Hackaday [17:20] techrights-news #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155500 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:21] techrights-news Five things to know before learning #Python | #RedHat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/09/10/five-things-know-learning-python #programming [17:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Five things to know before learning Python | Red Hat Developer [17:23] techrights-news Giving #ProprietarySoftware access to your microphone is always a bad idea and poor practice http://www.enricozini.org/blog/2021/debian/a-nightmare-of-confcalls-and-microphones #google [17:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enricozini.org | A nightmare of confcalls and microphones [17:24] techrights-news Filling the sky with more junks instead of more birds https://hackaday.com/2021/09/09/aerodynamic-buoyant-blimp-budges-into-low-cost-cargo-commerce/ #consumerism [17:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Aerodynamic Buoyant Blimp Budges Into Low Cost Cargo Commerce | Hackaday [17:25] techrights-news #KDE Gear, Plasma, systemd Update in #Tumbleweed http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155501 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Gear, Plasma, systemd Update in Tumbleweed | Tux Machines [17:27] techrights-news ...there is a resurgeance of FUD against #goland and Linux: along these lines: http://techrights.org/2021/03/01/golang-fud/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/01/golang-fud/ [17:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet Really Hates Golang (Maybe Because Microsoft Does) | Techrights [17:28] techrights-news Cleaning up header bars in #GNOME http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155502 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cleaning up header bars | Tux Machines [17:30] techrights-news #CatalinCimpanu 'fired' by #zdnet h No posts in 7 months. The site as a whole became a lot less active and let us hope it is dying. #boycottZDNet http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet [17:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights [17:32] *activelow (~activelow@f2uucmx8wdxxw.irc) has joined #techrights [17:32] techrights-news At one point #zdnet did about 2 articles per day tagged "LINUX" and now it's just 2 in 8 days. #SJVN really needs to find a better place to write, not a place where they (actually did!) censor of criticism of #microsoft ... this #propagandaMill needs to perish and they use SJVN to borrow perceived credibility [17:34] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [17:35] *inky_ (~inky@178.78.132.214) has joined #techrights [17:40] techrights-news Ongoing discussion about how to further enhance user input in #geminiProtocol (e.g. for search) https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007100.html [17:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [tech] trailing '?' for input (was: entry field in gemtext) [17:48] techrights-news It is a positive sign that they will be using #BigBlueButton https://opensource.org/POSIFinalSched [17:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.org | Schedule Finalized for Practical Open Source Information | Open Source Initiative [17:51] techrights-news Having said that, #OSI #PracticalOpenSource itself is quite the farce: http://techrights.org/2021/08/12/diversity-as-a-product-on-sale/ [17:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Open Source Initiative: Pay Us $6,000 and Well Present You as Supporting Diversity | Techrights [17:52] techrights-news When Did #Diversity Become a Product Sold to Corporations and to Privileged Autocrats? http://techrights.org/2021/08/13/diversity-as-sold-commodity/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/13/diversity-as-sold-commodity/ [17:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Did Diversity Become a Product Sold to Corporations and to Privileged Autocrats? | Techrights [17:53] techrights-news The most popular AMD Ryzen CPUs are finally getting optimized Linux support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155503 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The most popular AMD Ryzen CPUs are finally getting optimized Linux support | Tux Machines [17:55] techrights-news #AlmaLinux 8.4 on my #IdeaPad 3 - Decent, with a snag or two http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155504 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AlmaLinux 8.4 on my IdeaPad 3 - Decent, with a snag or two | Tux Machines [17:57] techrights-news Ending lockdowns created a crisis for home pets, e.g. dogs and cats, not just the #climate and air quality. Get people to work from home; don't pamper the oligarchs who made a bad (risky) investment in "office estate"... ● Sep 10 [18:01] techrights-news #krita #kde #freesw art: Yak Shaving https://www.davidrevoy.com/article861/yak-shaving [18:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.davidrevoy.com | Yak Shaving - David Revoy [18:01] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [18:01] techrights-news #YOGA Image Optimizer Graphical Tool to Convert & Compress PNG, JPEG, WebP http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155505 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | YOGA Image Optimizer Graphical Tool to Convert & Compress PNG, JPEG, WebP | Tux Machines [18:02] *inky_ (~inky@178.78.132.214) has joined #techrights [18:07] techrights-news "The Librem 5 is very, very close to being the only phone I carry around with me. But there are five things holding it back. Let's talk about them." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=E939fioA5bE [18:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | The 5 things holding back the Librem 5 - Invidious [18:08] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155506 #Linux #TuxMachines [18:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:09] techrights-news "The point of terrorism is to leverage the efforts of a small group in an attempt to modify the behavior of a much larger group." https://www.cringely.com/2021/09/10/bobs-9-11-post-from-20-years-ago-to-a-man-with-a-hammer/ [18:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bobs 9/11 post from 20 years ago To a Man With a Hammer | I, Cringely [18:14] techrights-news Airplanes and airports are superspreader platforms. I hope the airlines die a quick death. The sooner, the better. The #climate and #pollution crisis is several times worse than #covid19 [18:14] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155507 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [18:18] techrights-news Input mapping tool AntiMicroX 3.1.7 is out with improved Wayland support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155508 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Input mapping tool AntiMicroX 3.1.7 is out with improved Wayland support | Tux Machines [18:20] techrights-news EU Begins Antitrust Investigation Into Google Assistant https://voicebot.ai/2021/09/09/eu-begins-antitrust-investigation-into-google-assistant-on-android/ when does the investigation into #microsoft crime start too? http://techrights.org/2021/03/22/epoleaks-report-march-2021-finale/ [18:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EU Begins Antitrust Investigation Into Google Assistant on Android - Voicebot.ai [18:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Summing Up: EPO Administrative Council Still Asleep at the Wheel | Techrights [18:21] techrights-news #microsoft strategy: commit the crimes, bribe officials, then also tell them to go after our competitors, instead http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/ [18:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and Slush Funds | Techrights [18:23] techrights-news Looking back on 30 years of #Linux history with Red Hat's Pete Zaitcev http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154866#comment-30929 [18:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Happy 30th Birthday, Linux! | Tux Machines [18:27] *sears_hardware (~search_social@akqta89mfqm5k.irc) has joined #techrights [18:27] techrights-news Briar: The right open-source messenger for activists https://medevel.com/briar-an-open-source-developer-friendly-activists-messenger/ it is on #fdroid too, but I am sceptical but 'smart' phones have back doors: https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/ [18:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Briar: The right open-source messenger for activists [18:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wikileaks.org | Vault7 - Home [18:28] techrights-news Get more out of the window title with #Konsole http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155509 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDE [18:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Get more out of the window title with Konsole | Tux Machines [18:30] techrights-news "As our tools of choice, C/GObject and Vulkan were used in both projects, maintaining our goal of keeping xrdesktop low level and thus providing a performant XR experience." https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2021/09/10/an-xrdesktop-summer-of-code/ [18:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.collabora.com | An xrdesktop summer of code [18:35] techrights-news #Uganda charges lawmakers allied to opposition leader with murder https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/uganda-charges-lawmakers-allied-opposition-leader-with-murder-2021-09-07/ [18:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Uganda charges lawmakers allied to opposition leader with murder | Reuters [18:36] techrights-news "A lack of clarity on the Taliban's position on women in #Afghanistan has generated "incredible fear" across the country, a senior U.N. official said on Wednesday, warning there were daily reports of curbs on the rights of women." https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/incredible-fear-among-women-across-afghanistan-un-official-2021-09-08/ [18:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-'Incredible fear' among women across Afghanistan -U.N. official | Reuters [18:37] techrights-news [Satire] Inmate Granted Parole After Court Determines Release Poses No Threat To Prisons Bottom Line https://www.theonion.com/inmate-granted-parole-after-court-determines-release-po-1847629251 #theonion [18:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com | Inmate Granted Parole After Court Determines Release Poses No Threat To Prisons Bottom Line [18:39] techrights-news #techrepublic returning error pages. Varnish defunct. Let's hope its sister site #zdnet is next... as they're front groups for malicious corporate agenda [18:40] techrights-news Musical Cyberdeck is Part Synth, Part MIDI Controller, and All Cool http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155510 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Musical Cyberdeck is Part Synth, Part MIDI Controller, and All Cool | Tux Machines ● Sep 10 [19:01] techrights-news Links 10/9/2021: liveslak-1.3.10 and PipeWire 0.3.35 http://techrights.org/2021/09/10/liveslak-1-3-10/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/10/liveslak-1-3-10/ [19:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 10/9/2021: liveslak-1.3.10 and PipeWire 0.3.35 | Techrights [19:01] techrights-news #Programming and Standards http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155511 [19:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming and Standards | Tux Machines [19:02] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155512 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [19:12] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.96 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 65.20 swarm size (avg): 261.87 [19:34] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [19:34] *inky_ (~inky@2a02:2a57:c26f:0:3a78:62ff:fe60:d1c3) has joined #techrights [19:38] *inky_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [19:40] *inky_ (~inky@89.249.195.33) has joined #techrights [19:45] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [19:46] *inky_ (~inky@5.77.213.12) has joined #techrights ● Sep 10 [20:24] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:45] techrights-news "SpiderMonkey is the JavaScript engine used in Mozilla Firefox. This newsletter gives an overview of the JavaScript and WebAssembly work weve done as part of the Firefox 92 and 93 Nightly release cycles." https://spidermonkey.dev/blog/2021/09/10/newsletter-firefox-92-93.html [20:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spidermonkey.dev | SpiderMonkey Newsletter (Firefox 92-93) | SpiderMonkey JavaScript/WebAssembly Engine [20:48] techrights-news Severe inability to name GNU and what GNU does https://linuxtechlab.com/is-linux-a-programming-language/ [20:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is Linux a Programming Language? - LinuxTechLab [20:50] techrights-news #Habana Labs HEY HI Driver Updates Submitted For Linux 5.15 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Habana-Labs-Linux-5.15-Changes #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/10/#latest [20:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Habana Labs AI Driver Updates Submitted For Linux 5.15 - Phoronix [20:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [20:51] techrights-news A new survivor has appeared in the latest Don't Starve Together update | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/a-new-survivor-has-appeared-in-the-latest-dont-starve-together-update #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/10/#latest [20:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A new survivor has appeared in the latest Don't Starve Together update | GamingOnLinux [20:54] techrights-news #ibm lying. "So first I was listening to the CEO office hours the other day, the CEO said IBM hires anywhere from 40K to 60K people a year!!! Wow, really?!? How many layoffs are required to achieve that hiring number" So first I was listening to the CEO office hours the other day, the CEO said IBM hires anywhere from 40K to 60K people a year!!! Wow, really?!? How many layoffs are required to achieve that hiring number [20:55] techrights-news #ibm lying. "So first I was listening to the CEO office hours the other day, the CEO said IBM hires anywhere from 40K to 60K people a year!!! Wow, really?!? How many layoffs are required to achieve that hiring number" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cLF8ipd#replies [20:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM is hiring, please apply... - post regarding IBM layoffs [20:56] techrights-news "For those with family and kids on the way its much harder. I know many families at #IBM who don't send their kids to school or daycare because of COVID. I think once things start to settle down in 2022 you will see more people leave who have families." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cKiRnF7#replies [20:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | If you don't leave in 2021, you never will! - post regarding IBM layoffs [20:57] techrights-news #ibm "most hiring is Band 6/7 to do a Band 8/9 job... When the teams complain to the execs, they say just hire overseas for the higher levels." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cLF8ipd#replies [20:58] techrights-news #ibm "Was hired in '96 and RA'd [laid off] class of 2020. I learned that the personal pension will only accrue (earn) interest until I turn 65, then interest stops." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cI2ocFV#replies [20:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Personal Pension Plan And Social Security Benefits - post regarding IBM layoffs [20:59] techrights-news #fedora severely understaffed and without a community under #ibm (they do not wish to be slaves of this firm) https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2021-36/ [20:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Friday's Fedora Facts: 2021-36 Fedora Community Blog ● Sep 10 [21:00] techrights-news Quadratic algorithms are slow (and hashmaps are fast) https://jvns.ca/blog/2021/09/10/hashmaps-make-things-fast/ #jvns #programming [21:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jvns.ca | Quadratic algorithms are slow (and hashmaps are fast) [21:02] techrights-news Cancel all #patents associated with #covid19 https://citizen.typepad.com/eyesontrade/2021/09/tuesday-press-conference-mocs-civil-society-and-labor-leaders-urge-biden-to-launch-global-plan-to-en.html #patent #monopolies #greed [21:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-citizen.typepad.com | Eyes on Trade: Tuesday Press Conference: MoCs, Civil Society and Labor Leaders Urge Biden To Launch Global Plan to End Pandemic at Next Weeks UN Summit [21:07] techrights-news We already have way more than enough problems on this planet, so "Asteroid Threat" seems like a distraction https://hackaday.com/2021/09/10/nasa-are-squaring-up-against-the-asteroid-threat/ [21:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NASA Are Squaring Up Against The Asteroid Threat | Hackaday [21:11] techrights-news "delivery of goods involving a server in communication with a customers computer through a user interface via the Internet." = #swpats = #fakepatents https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/9/10/2000-for-consumeron-prior-art #uspto #ptab [21:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $2,000 for Consumeron prior art Unified Patents [21:13] techrights-news #microsoft #windows #fail https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/08/bork/ [21:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | With a Lidl bit of luck, this Windows installation will make it through the night The Register [21:18] techrights-news Virtualization: Containers and VMs with Proxmox VE 7.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/153091#comment-30932 [21:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proxmox Virtual Environment 7.0 released | Tux Machines [21:18] techrights-news The developers of #GhostBSD have released version 09/21/06 of the free Unix derivative. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155373#comment-30931 [21:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GhostBSD 21.09.06 ISO's now available | Tux Machines [21:23] techrights-news El Salvador's bitcoin experiment splits crypto community amid major price decline https://www.marketwatch.com/story/el-salvadors-bitcoin-experiment-splits-community-amid-major-price-decline-11631135674 https://www.tomshardware.com/news/elon-musk-accused-bitcoin-market-manipulation [21:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-El Salvadors bitcoin experiment splits crypto community amid major price decline - MarketWatch [21:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Elon Musk Accused of Bitcoin Market Manipulation By Top Economist | Tom's Hardware [21:25] techrights-news [Old] #RaspberryPi Treat Dispenser Rewards Good Dogs https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-instagram-treat-dispenser [21:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | Raspberry Pi Treat Dispenser Rewards Good Dogs | Tom's Hardware [21:26] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:26] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [21:31] techrights-news You ought not use ANY version of #microsoft #windows https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/raspberry-pi-pico-solar-system-display back doors are perpetual, versions are a money-draining scam http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA [21:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | This Raspberry Pi Pico Solar System Display is Far From Orrery | Tom's Hardware [21:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [21:31] techrights-news Windows... DA BEST https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/758016/current-version-of-bsod-after-problems-installing-updates/ [21:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | current version of BSOD after problems installing updates. - Windows Crashes and Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) Help and Support [21:35] techrights-news #RSSGuard would be wise to #deletehgithub https://www.neowin.net/news/rss-guard-402/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [21:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | RSS Guard 4.0.2 - Neowin [21:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [21:40] techrights-news #VoidLinux: excellent choice for more advanced Linux users http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155513 #GNU #Linux distro that needs to #deletegithub [21:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Void Linux: excellent choice for more advanced Linux users | Tux Machines [21:42] *psydroid3 has quit (connection closed) [21:43] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [21:43] techrights-news #ibm causing chaos for many https://www.enterpriseai.news/2021/09/10/as-centos-linux-loses-support-dec-31-cloudlinux-moves-in-to-help-centos-users/ [21:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterpriseai.news | As CentOS Linux Loses Support Dec. 31, CloudLinux TuxCare Moves In to Help CentOS Users [21:43] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.114.205) has joined #techrights [21:49] techrights-news #Wine 6.17 Announcement http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155514 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.17 Announcement | Tux Machines [21:51] techrights-news #Litigation giant Finnegan (, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett & Dunner, LLP): PAY US OR THE SKY WILL FALL https://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/trademark/1109428/file-it-or-lose-it [21:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | File It Or Lose It - Intellectual Property - European Union [21:54] techrights-news Wine development release 6.17 is out with continued work for the GDI syscall interface http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155514#comment-30933 [21:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.17 Announcement | Tux Machines ● Sep 10 [22:05] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [22:21] techrights-news #EPO case law is patently rigged and oughtn't be copied anywhere https://www.iam-media.com/litigation/english-court-of-appeal-brings-sufficiency-test-line-epo-case-law see http://techrights.org/2021/06/26/g-121-epo-catastrophe/ [22:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | English Court of Appeal brings sufficiency test into line with EPO case law | IAM [22:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | G 1/21 is a Catastrophe for the EPOs Legitimacy | Techrights [22:30] techrights-news Complete propaganda as some of these are obstacles designed to give advantage to foreign firms https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/rd-ip-standardisation-are-key-elements-for-an-innovative-india-10674611.htm see, e.g. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Software_Patents_in_India [22:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbctv18.com | R&D, Ip & Standardisation Are Key Elements For An Innovative India [22:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Patents in India - Techrights [22:31] techrights-news Microsoft blames the users for its software being broken and incapable of protecting users https://marketresearchtelecast.com/thursday-tesla-laser-twitter-deletion-cell-broadcast-windows-attacks/151286/ [22:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-marketresearchtelecast.com | Thursday: Tesla laser, Twitter deletion, cell broadcast & Windows attacks - Market Research Telecast [22:34] techrights-news #EPO wasting money again, bribing the media, bribing host nations (vote-buying), and distracting from its many crimes https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20210910.html sometimes it promotes frauds too: http://techrights.org/2018/05/04/theranos-epo-fraud/ [22:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - Register for the European Inventor Award virtual roadshow [22:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Elizabeth Holmes Charged With Massive Fraud and Team Battistelli Rushes to Distance Itself From Her | Techrights [22:36] techrights-news Issuing a whole press release just to announce that one's #patents aren't deemed fake in #PTAB 's eyes (it can be appealed to #CAFC , still https://www.streetinsider.com/PRNewswire/PTAB+Affirms+Patentability+of+Parus+Claims/18924877.html #uspto [22:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.streetinsider.com | PTAB Affirms Patentability of Parus Claims [22:38] techrights-news Owing to #epo coverage in #techrights we've been getting more leaks and tips from/about other institutions. We'll be covering a lot of abuses in years to come. The media's failure to cover issues works in our favour... [22:39] techrights-news This morning I opened a formal complaint in #eon / #eonNext and since then no updates, no phonecalls, nothing http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/09/10/eon-next-energy-limited/ we'll see if something happens Monday... [22:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive e.ON or E.ON Next Energy Limited Possibly the UKs Worst Energy Supplier [22:41] techrights-news With the #techrights wiki added to #geminiSpace (about 1,000 pages) we'll soon exceed 38.000 pages in total, in gemini:// alone... gemini://gemini.techrights.org/wiki/ [22:43] techrights-news #internet news is a sort of fictional thing because 20 years ago it did exist and money was invested in it. Nowadays #socialcontrolmedia dooms it, replacing it with #misinformation and for-profit #disinformation for the most part. Because that's where the money is: PR and lies. [22:44] techrights-news How I Research Stuff https://tedium.co/2021/09/10/digital-research-advice/ "like this Charlie Sheen-inspired piece about alternative medicine, or this piece on bottle deposits." [22:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tedium.co | Become a Better Digital Researcher: Tips From Tedium [22:45] techrights-news #Mozilla has nothing of value left to say. So, here are some 'tweets'... https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/best-tweets-matrix-blues-clues-september-10th/ [22:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Matrix 4, Blue's Clues, #StarTrekDay and More Everything That's Old is New Again in This Week's Top Shelf [22:51] *kingoffrance has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:52] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [22:54] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/evolution-of-language [22:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Evolution of Language [22:57] *mib_6uy99i has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [22:57] *x (~x__@4mmu4fx6g3jvs.irc) has joined #techrights [22:58] *x is now known as kingoffrance ● Sep 10 [23:10] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155515 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [23:16] *m___ (~Adium@axe8sdwa9qgju.irc) has joined #techrights [23:17] *mib_6uy99i (~4f8f6ffc@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [23:20] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:20] *activelow (~activelow@254g4tq7df99e.irc) has joined #techrights [23:22] techrights-news Challenging #DavidKappos , Seeking Accountability Over His Corporate Legacy as #IBM / #Microsoft 'Mole' Inside the U.S. #Patent and Trademark Office http://techrights.org/2021/09/10/challenging-david-kappos/ @zoobab [23:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Challenging David Kappos, Seeking Accountability Over His Corporate Legacy as IBM/Microsoft Mole Inside the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office | Techrights [23:23] techrights-news #Kernel: Linux Habana Labs Driver and Microsoftisation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155516 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines [23:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Linux Habana Labs Driver and Microsoftisation | Tux Machines [23:37] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/thought-2 [23:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Thought [23:43] techrights-news [Meme] 12 Years of Corporate Deplorables Running the #USPTO http://techrights.org/2021/09/10/corporate-uspto/ #swpats #google #ibm #microsoft [23:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] 12 Years of Corporate Deplorables Running the USPTO | Techrights [23:52] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:52] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:55] schestowitz at [23:55] schestowitz > Thanks. [23:55] schestowitz > [23:55] schestowitz > What makes me very angry is that Kappos, coming from IBM, used his [23:55] schestowitz > corruption of the USPTO to catapult himself into some sort of world [23:55] schestowitz > expert on the patent system and a champion for inventors, when he ruined [23:55] schestowitz > the patent system and made life worse for inventors. [23:55] schestowitz > [23:55] schestowitz > He's at a top law firm in New York, "teaching" at several top [23:55] schestowitz > universities in New York, and featured at conferences and on corporate [23:55] schestowitz > websites. [23:55] schestowitz > [23:55] schestowitz > I'm trying to decide just how aggressively I want to spread these [23:55] schestowitz > complaints. [23:55] schestowitz > [23:55] schestowitz > I want to use them to destroy him, but I just have to think it through a [23:55] schestowitz > bit. [23:55] schestowitz It was not just him: [23:56] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/09/10/corporate-uspto/ [23:59] techrights-news [Meme] #EPO and #EUIPO Arent Democratic Institutions http://techrights.org/2021/09/10/rigging-epo-and-euipo/ #europe #corruption #eu [23:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] EPO and EUIPO Arent Democratic Institutions | Techrights