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| schestowitz | > For sure. Should publish by Friday, been busy driving etc for the past few days and haven’t been able to give it the time it needs. | Oct 10 00:22 |
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| schestowitz | Our readers are the sort of audience that needs to see this. | Oct 10 00:22 |
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| schestowitz | begun quote | Oct 10 00:42 |
| schestowitz | As Chief GNUisance, I'd like to reassure the community | Oct 10 00:42 |
| schestowitz | that there won't be any radical changes in the GNU Project's | Oct 10 00:42 |
| schestowitz | goals, principles and policies. | Oct 10 00:42 |
| schestowitz | I would like to make incremental changes in how some decisions are | Oct 10 00:43 |
| schestowitz | made, because I won't be here forever and we need to ready others to | Oct 10 00:43 |
| schestowitz | make GNU Project decisions when I can no longer do so. But these | Oct 10 00:43 |
| schestowitz | won't lead to unbounded or radical changes. | Oct 10 00:43 |
| schestowitz | -- | Oct 10 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Dr Richard Stallman | Oct 10 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) | Oct 10 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | The GNU Operating System and the Free Software Movement | Oct 10 00:43 | |
| schestowitz | Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) | Oct 10 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Front Page — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software | Oct 10 00:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://lwn.net/Articles/801884/" | Oct 10 00:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internethalloffame.org | Home Page | Internet Hall of Fame | Oct 10 00:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stallman: No radical changes in GNU Project [LWN.net] | Oct 10 00:43 | |
| schestowitz | this page documents all the other responses that I could find about this | Oct 10 00:46 |
| oiaohm | srid: chomwitt: https://web.archive.org/web/20130128053809/http://www.stallmanfacts.com/ https://rdrr.io/cran/rmsfact/ Octave development groups have a poor option of RMS is not new. | Oct 10 00:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | StallmanFacts.com | Oct 10 00:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rdrr.io | rmsfact: Amazing Random Facts About the World's Greatest Hacker version 0.0.3 from CRAN | Oct 10 00:53 | |
| oiaohm | Interesting part around 2013 lots of places that were treating RMS miss behavour has a joke stopped. I would say the boot has been coming for RMS for 6 years. | Oct 10 00:58 |
| oiaohm | chomwitt: I would not say we are in getting in a deeper quagmire I would say its been stuck in the deep quagmire of not knowing what todo about RMS. Now they they are doing something this could turn into a very savage over reaction. | Oct 10 01:00 |
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| schestowitz | [22:35] <chomwitt> sorry ,, octave.app's statement | Oct 10 01:34 |
| schestowitz | I too got confused | Oct 10 01:34 |
| schestowitz | didn't even know there was an "app"... and it seems like a Mac thing | Oct 10 01:35 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: thanks for these links | Oct 10 01:37 |
| schestowitz | I did not know about that site, cheers... | Oct 10 01:37 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: there have been a lot of upset parties with RMS for a long time who have basically held back because while RMS was FSF President going after him could major disrupt operations of GNU.org that a lot of parties depend on software from. | Oct 10 01:42 |
| oiaohm | Now that he does not have that title we can expect things to blow up for a while as those upset people come out the wood work. | Oct 10 01:42 |
| oiaohm | We really need to get better systems in place to deal with these issue. | Oct 10 01:43 |
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| schestowitz | sorry, oiaohm | Oct 10 01:54 |
| schestowitz | could you please paste your last three lines or any other lines? | Oct 10 01:55 |
| schestowitz | I lost the connection house-wide | Oct 10 01:55 |
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| schestowitz | never mind, oiaohm | Oct 10 02:02 |
| schestowitz | I checked server-side IRC logs (backup), looks like I missed nothing | Oct 10 02:02 |
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| schestowitz | https://lwn.net/Articles/801884/#Comments | Oct 10 03:00 |
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| schestowitz | " | Oct 10 03:00 |
| schestowitz | Historically, the "benevolent dictator for life" (BDFL) model has been fairly popular amongst FOSS projects. The obvious examples include GNU itself, Linux, and Python (which recently transitioned to a more democratic approach after Guido stepped down), but of course there are numerous other examples. | Oct 10 03:00 |
| schestowitz | The usual process by which this happens is roughly as follows: | Oct 10 03:00 |
| schestowitz | A developer writes a little bit of code, or sometimes a lot of code, to fix or simplify a problem that they personally face. | Oct 10 03:00 |
| schestowitz | They polish it up and realize it might be useful to other people, so they publish it on the web. | Oct 10 03:00 |
| schestowitz | Other developers contribute patches, which the first developer accepts, or not, as they see fit. | Oct 10 03:00 |
| schestowitz | Eventually, the project is big enough that the "first developer" is now the de facto BDFL of the project. Typically, they will start appointing lieutenants or delegates to help spread the work out a bit, but they're still formally in charge because they've always been in charge. | Oct 10 03:00 |
| schestowitz | In a sense, this is the default state of affairs. It's what happens if nobody cares enough to push for some other outcome (or if the BDFL refuses, as RMS apparently has). | Oct 10 03:00 |
| schestowitz | On the other hand, a democratic process requires more structure and bureaucracy. Not a whole lot of bureaucracy, of course, but it's being compared against a state with practically no bureaucracy at all. So democratic processes generally only arise from deliberate effort, after you've already built up a community that cares enough to have one, is large enough for the process to actually work, and has either the blessing of the outgoing BDFL | Oct 10 03:01 |
| schestowitz | or the practical ability to successfully fork. On top of those minimum requirements, the community has to want it, because setting up a democratic process requires a significant up-front time commitment and an ongoing expenditure of interpersonal (political) bandwidth. | Oct 10 03:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 10 03:01 |
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| samiamsam | https://leahneukirchen.org/blog/archive/2019/10/ken-thompson-s-unix-password.html | Oct 10 03:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-leahneukirchen.org | leah blogs: Ken Thompson's Unix password | Oct 10 03:07 | |
| schestowitz | someone linked to that earlier | Oct 10 03:08 |
| samiamsam | figures | Oct 10 03:09 |
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| scientes | samiamsam, cool | Oct 10 03:11 |
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| schestowitz | Google still burps up this: https://www.uptoboston.com/visiting-mit-scientist-resigns-after-controversial-remarks-defending-jeffrey-epstein/ | Oct 10 03:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.uptoboston.com | Visiting MIT Scientist Resigns After Controversial Remarks Defending Jeffrey Epstein | Oct 10 03:17 | |
| schestowitz | today | Oct 10 03:17 |
| schestowitz | or yesterday | Oct 10 03:17 |
| schestowitz | in Google News | Oct 10 03:17 |
| schestowitz | top | Oct 10 03:17 |
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| schestowitz | oh... | Oct 10 03:22 |
| schestowitz | https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/10/09/ken_thompsons_old_unix_password_cracked/ | Oct 10 03:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Father of Unix Ken Thompson checkmated as his old password has finally been cracked • The Register | Oct 10 03:22 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I would guess its going to be around for in one form or another for at least another 6 months. | Oct 10 03:22 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: It would have been found a lot faster if people had been looking for chess moves instead of text. | Oct 10 03:24 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://www.chess.com/openings/A40-Queens-Pawn-Opening Its quite a common old opening that ken thompsons password. | Oct 10 03:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Queen's Pawn Opening - Chess Openings - Chess.com | Oct 10 03:28 | |
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| samiamsam | looking for text would have been fine, if just the extreme length were known | Oct 10 03:29 |
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| oiaohm | samiamsam: there is a problem. Hashs have limited number of bits. So there is a point where 2 different password texts will in fact resolved to the same password. So you could have like a mega long password that in world of stupid could resolve to the letter a. | Oct 10 03:40 |
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| samiamsam | oiaohm: well, that is true. but i don't see why you say it is a problem. | Oct 10 03:41 |
| oiaohm | samiamsam: It means a password hash has finite complexity. The modern salting of password hashs doe make cracking a lot harder. | Oct 10 03:43 |
| oiaohm | But there will still come the point where even salted hashs will be weaking than the computer brute force power. | Oct 10 03:44 |
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| samiamsam | oiaohm: i don't think that can be correct. the more powerful the computer, the larger the size of the hash. no computer can crack a hash by brute force that is more than a tiny proportion of its total system memory | Oct 10 05:13 |
| samiamsam | or even more than a tiny portion of the cpu cache really | Oct 10 05:15 |
| MrGreenFriend | can some send me the backlog about this Hash discussion, please? | Oct 10 05:30 |
| MrGreenFriend | samiamsam, where r u getting this "tiny portion" rule from? | Oct 10 05:31 |
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| samiamsam | well it's not a rule, it's just a fact about the way the ratios have always been, which seems unlikely to change radically | Oct 10 06:30 |
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| psydroid | https://www.microsoftsucks.org/index.php?id=105567 | Oct 10 06:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.microsoftsucks.org | Everybody working in M$ is retarded! - Microsoft Sucks !!! | Oct 10 06:56 | |
| samiamsam | seems unlikely they could even get all that c++ code to compile if _everybody_ was retarded | Oct 10 07:02 |
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| samiamsam | hm, the article is fairly convincing though | Oct 10 07:05 |
| jagadees | Yesterday somebody here was explaining FSF reasons for firing Stallman. They says he broke some US laws. Here is my thoughts on that. | Oct 10 07:08 |
| jagadees | How Richard Stallman repealed Dodd-Frank Act | Oct 10 07:08 |
| jagadees | https://neritam.wordpress.com/2019/10/10/how-richard-stallman-repealed-dodd-frank-act/ | Oct 10 07:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | How Richard Stallman repealed Dodd-Frank Act – neritam | Oct 10 07:08 | |
| samiamsam | what? fsf fired stallman? i thought he quit | Oct 10 07:11 |
| jagadees | he said he was forced to resign | Oct 10 07:13 |
| samiamsam | also your article says stallman is not head of gnu. this is false. this was put on his page by a malicious cracker. it is now corrected. see https://stallman.org at the very top | Oct 10 07:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Richard Stallman's Personal Page | Oct 10 07:13 | |
| samiamsam | jagadees: where? he did not say that in his original resignation message on the political notes | Oct 10 07:13 |
| schestowitz | he was under pressure to resign from outside FSF he said | Oct 10 07:14 |
| jagadees | see this | Oct 10 07:14 |
| jagadees | https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ | Oct 10 07:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-guix.gnu.org | Joint statement on the GNU Project — 2019 — Blog — GNU Guix | Oct 10 07:14 | |
| schestowitz | but that pressure partly came from the Board | Oct 10 07:14 |
| schestowitz | because bkuhn wrote a nasty letter as SFC and he's also in FSF Board | Oct 10 07:14 |
| jagadees | i dont know internals of FSF. but just by accepting resignation itself in this troubled time means a lot. | Oct 10 07:15 |
| samiamsam | rms resigning was probably a good move for the fsf, since it stopped the internet sjw mobs | Oct 10 07:16 |
| samiamsam | otherwise they would have gone after fsf itself) | Oct 10 07:16 |
| samiamsam | anyway if there is any proof either that he was forced to resign, or not forced, i am interested to know which | Oct 10 07:17 |
| samiamsam | jagadees: and thank you for providing that link. very interesting. i hope it does not take off. it only has 24 signatures right now. | Oct 10 07:18 |
| jagadees | and neither there is no proof he did anything wrong. | Oct 10 07:18 |
| jagadees | but still i am upset with that 24 too | Oct 10 07:19 |
| jagadees | the words in that letter is also too harsh. | Oct 10 07:19 |
| samiamsam | yes, he did nothing but say his opinion, which was not even unreasonable, but it doesn't matter, since it was put in the press and reached widespread distribution that he defended epstein | Oct 10 07:19 |
| schestowitz | Someone sent me internal EPO stuff, which I wlll publish this morning | Oct 10 07:19 |
| jagadees | actually he defended none. | Oct 10 07:20 |
| samiamsam | i know | Oct 10 07:20 |
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| samiamsam | those 24 signatories must be overtaken and blinded by the social justice mind virus. nothing they say means anything about what they see and truly know. the supposed alienation caused by rms is nothing they have witnessed, it is instead a part of their ideological framework | Oct 10 07:24 |
| samiamsam | but i think 24 people is a very small fringe anyway | Oct 10 07:25 |
| jagadees | thats enough for corporate power. | Oct 10 07:27 |
| jagadees | old divide and rule | Oct 10 07:27 |
| samiamsam | speaking of corporate power, did you see the one on twitter who works for salesforce, and calls for all fsf board to resign | Oct 10 07:28 |
| schestowitz | haha, does salesforce have a say on FOSS now? | Oct 10 07:31 |
| schestowitz | I know who you mean | Oct 10 07:31 |
| samiamsam | anyway that one is a fringe that no one takes seriously. if rms did not resign, it would have been a whole mob. you shouldn't even read it, because it will induce rage, but i will link it https://twitter.com/sarahmei/status/1178071229493723137 | Oct 10 07:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@sarahmei: @fsf Does the @fsf want to actually be effective at fighting for software freedom? This is how they do it: 1. Remo… https://t.co/BCILcVOhN9 | Oct 10 07:31 | |
| schestowitz | they just tossed some gui for the web 'code' online some months ago | Oct 10 07:31 |
| schestowitz | for openwashing | Oct 10 07:31 |
| schestowitz | other than that, the company is bonfire to FOSS | Oct 10 07:31 |
| samiamsam | schestowitz: it is so absurd. to work for salesforce and put on this pretense about 'software freedom'... for that person to even use that word is an insult | Oct 10 07:33 |
| schestowitz | for FSF to capitulate to that salesforce employee is like some vegetarian group heeding demands from meat eaters | Oct 10 07:33 |
| schestowitz | samiamsam: exactly | Oct 10 07:33 |
| samiamsam | yes. but no one will ever capitulate to that idiot, thankfully | Oct 10 07:34 |
| schestowitz | or red hat talking about diversity | Oct 10 07:34 |
| schestowitz | on behalf of IBM | Oct 10 07:34 |
| schestowitz | that helped the nazis implement death camps and never bother doing as little as an apology | Oct 10 07:34 |
| schestowitz | *bothered | Oct 10 07:34 |
| schestowitz | but yeah... FSF needs ethical guidance... from IBM | Oct 10 07:34 |
| schestowitz | how many of RMS's ancestral relatives did IBM help mark for death? | Oct 10 07:35 |
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| samiamsam | the sjw ideology is very corporate friendly and now we have these factually amoral entities putting on a pretense of moral superiority | Oct 10 07:36 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16200846 | Oct 10 07:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: I want to ask, how many of RMS's ancestral relatives did IBM help mark for death? #redhat has no place and no moral ground on which to tell FSF who to replace RMS with, in the name of "diversity"... | Oct 10 07:36 | |
| schestowitz | I could word it better | Oct 10 07:37 |
| schestowitz | but that would take more time | Oct 10 07:37 |
| schestowitz | samiamsam: haha, I read that as sjvn | Oct 10 07:37 |
| schestowitz | which promotes similar goals in different ways | Oct 10 07:37 |
| samiamsam | (i don't really like the phrase sjw but there is no other word for that specific ideology) | Oct 10 07:38 |
| schestowitz | the term has been ruined and coopted | Oct 10 07:39 |
| schestowitz | like "deep state" | Oct 10 07:39 |
| schestowitz | its original meaning was lost | Oct 10 07:39 |
| schestowitz | another is "fake news" | Oct 10 07:39 |
| schestowitz | it was coopted by those accused of using it | Oct 10 07:39 |
| samiamsam | well fake news certainly | Oct 10 07:39 |
| schestowitz | i.e. the connotation was reversed and the nuance is all los | Oct 10 07:39 |
| samiamsam | i think people still know what sjw is denoting though | Oct 10 07:40 |
| schestowitz | "liberal" is another, now it's associate with centrist candidates | Oct 10 07:40 |
| jagadees | i call them SJ Distractors | Oct 10 07:40 |
| jagadees | SJD | Oct 10 07:40 |
| schestowitz | they''re a vocal minority among something good | Oct 10 07:40 |
| schestowitz | they stand out more, harming these causes | Oct 10 07:40 |
| jagadees | they just tool of rich | Oct 10 07:41 |
| schestowitz | like ruining people's lives for something said decades ago (and was perfectly normal and common at one point) | Oct 10 07:41 |
| schestowitz | you could call some of them witch hunters constantly looking for revenge on society, which 'failed' them | Oct 10 07:41 |
| jagadees | remember berie sanders first campaign. all of the sudden "black life matter" came | Oct 10 07:42 |
| samiamsam | sjw ideology is saying that power structures need to include diversity at the top and that excluding the minorities from proportional representation of power is the injustice to be remedied, and also we need to micromanage language and subtle behaviors until we fix it -- to give an incomplete description | Oct 10 07:42 |
| jagadees | actually at that time black president was in power | Oct 10 07:42 |
| samiamsam | it is very corporate friendly and power friendly because it inherently doesn't questoin the power structure itsefl | Oct 10 07:42 |
| schestowitz | you could argue that they try to replace boards | Oct 10 07:42 |
| schestowitz | as that helps remove incumbents | Oct 10 07:43 |
| jagadees | sad thing is that innocent people also get caught in that | Oct 10 07:43 |
| samiamsam | like in 1860, sjws would be saying we need more black slave owners and more white slaves | Oct 10 07:43 |
| schestowitz | potentially replacing them with Trojan horses whose agenda is self-destructive for the orgs | Oct 10 07:43 |
| MinceR | 10 023507 < schestowitz> didn't even know there was an "app"... and it seems like a Mac thing | Oct 10 07:44 |
| MinceR | https://images7.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED715/5b4c82823f0d6.jpeg | Oct 10 07:44 |
| samiamsam | by saying it's an injustice that some power structure does not include blacks, it's always implicitly saying that whoever has power in that structure is _otherwise_ or _in general_ justified | Oct 10 07:44 |
| samiamsam | (blacks, women, whatever) | Oct 10 07:45 |
| samiamsam | anyway, that's what i'm talking about with 'sjw' | Oct 10 07:45 |
| MrGreenFriend | schestowitz, What r the 'original' & 'coopted' definitions of Deep State? | Oct 10 07:47 |
| samiamsam | MinceR: ha | Oct 10 07:47 |
| MinceR | 10 081610 < samiamsam> rms resigning was probably a good move for the fsf, since it stopped the internet sjw mobs | Oct 10 07:49 |
| MinceR | s/stopped/emboldened/ | Oct 10 07:49 |
| MinceR | FTFY | Oct 10 07:49 |
| samiamsam | hm | Oct 10 07:49 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: good one. nails it. | Oct 10 07:49 |
| MrGreenFriend | schestowitz, What r the 'original' & 'coopted' definitions of Fake News? | Oct 10 07:49 |
| jagadees | no | Oct 10 07:49 |
| schestowitz | [07:47] <MrGreenFriend> schestowitz, What r the 'original' & 'coopted' definitions of Deep State? | Oct 10 07:50 |
| MinceR | 10 083850 < samiamsam> (i don't really like the phrase sjw but there is no other word for that specific ideology) | Oct 10 07:50 |
| MinceR | "crybully" is another word for it | Oct 10 07:50 |
| schestowitz | It's mostly about who uses it a lot, colloquially | Oct 10 07:50 |
| samiamsam | MinceR: maybe it is true in the larger way, that the sjw mobs will be emboldened -- but what i mean is that they have moved on to another target than the fsf | Oct 10 07:50 |
| schestowitz | (it's not associated with 'invisible forces' trying to remove the orange nazi) | Oct 10 07:50 |
| schestowitz | samiamsam: those who targeted stallman had also targeted torvalds | Oct 10 07:51 |
| jagadees | it actually the resignation proof to the distraction. | Oct 10 07:51 |
| schestowitz | they'd usually aim at people who gave their "causes" more media attention | Oct 10 07:52 |
| schestowitz | they don't target the worst offenders | Oct 10 07:52 |
| jagadees | now search epstein mit | Oct 10 07:52 |
| jagadees | stallman will come first | Oct 10 07:52 |
| schestowitz | sometimes they target non-offenders, as a 'sport' | Oct 10 07:52 |
| MinceR | samiamsam: that's good for nobody | Oct 10 07:52 |
| jagadees | resignation | Oct 10 07:52 |
| schestowitz | jagadees: http://techrights.org/2019/10/07/lots-of-articles-about-rms/ | Oct 10 07:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Meme: Lots of Articles About RMS (Richard Stallman) | Techrights | Oct 10 07:52 | |
| jagadees | yes | Oct 10 07:53 |
| jagadees | gates actually met him in person. | Oct 10 07:53 |
| jagadees | https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/14/jeffrey-epstein-met-with-bill-gates-years-after-financier-served-jail-time.html | Oct 10 07:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Jeffrey Epstein met with Bill Gates years after financier served jail time | Oct 10 07:53 | |
| schestowitz | gates' tech guy was left money in the epstein will | Oct 10 07:53 |
| schestowitz | so something was going on there | Oct 10 07:54 |
| MrGreenFriend | schestowitz, link to epstein will? | Oct 10 07:54 |
| schestowitz | and there's also this police incident http://techrights.org/2015/01/03/prison-and-gates/ | Oct 10 07:54 |
| jagadees | yes | Oct 10 07:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Thousands of Child Rape Photos Traded Out of Bill Gates’ Mansion | Techrights | Oct 10 07:54 | |
| jagadees | yes | Oct 10 07:54 |
| samiamsam | MinceR: i'm not sure i agree. fsf will avoid so much bad press, people stopping to give money, etc | Oct 10 07:55 |
| samiamsam | MinceR: or anyway, maybe | Oct 10 07:55 |
| MinceR | FSF is already irrelevan | Oct 10 07:55 |
| MinceR | t | Oct 10 07:55 |
| MinceR | there still are useful things the crybullies can sabotage | Oct 10 07:55 |
| jagadees | money is the problem. it corrupts | Oct 10 07:55 |
| jagadees | http://neritam.wordpress.com/2019/10/05/do-not-make-free-software-as-your-source-of-income-it-will-make-you-weak-politically/ | Oct 10 07:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | Do not make free software as your source of income, it will make you weak, politically – neritam | Oct 10 07:56 | |
| schestowitz | 3 days before attention shifted to #RMS in MIT: https://observer.com/2019/09/bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein-mit-media-lab-problem/ | Oct 10 07:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bill Gates Now Has His Own Jeffrey Epstein Problem | Observer | Oct 10 07:57 | |
| jagadees | thats clear | Oct 10 08:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1181979818952232960 | Oct 10 08:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jennycohn1: Meanwhile, security-challenged Microsoft has partnered with all of the major developers of Ballot Marking Devices i… https://t.co/b4idIYpeWL | Oct 10 08:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jennycohn1: Meanwhile, security-challenged Microsoft has partnered with all of the major developers of Ballot Marking Devices i… https://t.co/b4idIYpeWL | Oct 10 08:02 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 10 08:02 |
| schestowitz | Meanwhile, security-challenged Microsoft has partnered with all of the major developers of Ballot Marking Devices intended for universal use?! | Oct 10 08:02 |
| schestowitz | https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2019/05/06/protecting-democratic-elections-through-secure-verifiable-voting/… 1/ | Oct 10 08:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 10 08:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2019/05/06/protecting-democratic-elections-through-secure-verifiable-voting/… ) | Oct 10 08:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1181980476367486976 | Oct 10 08:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jennycohn1: Microsoft’s ElectionGuard will let voters determine after the election (when it’s too late for recourse) if their i… https://t.co/bjAR3wNS5y | Oct 10 08:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jennycohn1: Microsoft’s ElectionGuard will let voters determine after the election (when it’s too late for recourse) if their i… https://t.co/bjAR3wNS5y | Oct 10 08:03 | |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft’s ElectionGuard will let voters determine after the election (when it’s too late for recourse) if their individual vote was counted as they intended. If there’s a problem, voters can’t fix it or prove the problem was machine induced as opposed to their own error. 2/" | Oct 10 08:03 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1181980901300813824 | Oct 10 08:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jennycohn1: ElectionGuard apparently can’t be used in court and won’t tell voters if OTHER votes have been recorded correctly.… https://t.co/ATOw2X52gh | Oct 10 08:03 | |
| schestowitz | "ElectionGuard apparently can’t be used in court and won’t tell voters if OTHER votes have been recorded correctly. But it will be used by BMD developers to provide false cover for their “universal use” BMDs.  3/" | Oct 10 08:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Unexpected response | Oct 10 08:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1181981718091165701 | Oct 10 08:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jennycohn1: If you see this thread and believe I’ve misstated anything, please correct me. Thanks. @rad_atl @SEGreenhalgh… https://t.co/a2gfzrHZ79 | Oct 10 08:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jennycohn1: If you see this thread and believe I’ve misstated anything, please correct me. Thanks. @rad_atl @SEGreenhalgh… https://t.co/a2gfzrHZ79 | Oct 10 08:03 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1181984591768219648 | Oct 10 08:04 |
| schestowitz | "5/ Microsoft’s partners include these pro-BMD suppliers & developers: Democracy Live, ES&S, Hart InterCivic, BPro, MicroVote, and VotingWorks. https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2019/05/06/protecting-democratic-elections-through-secure-verifiable-voting/" | Oct 10 08:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1181986095422046209 | Oct 10 08:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Unexpected response | Oct 10 08:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.microsoft.com | Protecting democratic elections through secure, verifiable voting - Microsoft on the Issues | Oct 10 08:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jennycohn1: 6/ BMD developer Galois is also partnered with Microsoft. https://t.co/RDQF2O1QNQ https://t.co/C4tCsZ61j9 | Oct 10 08:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Galois partners with Microsoft to enable verifiable elections with ElectionGuard - Galois, Inc. | Oct 10 08:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jennycohn1: 6/ BMD developer Galois is also partnered with Microsoft. https://t.co/RDQF2O1QNQ https://t.co/C4tCsZ61j9 | Oct 10 08:04 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1181986796814487552 | Oct 10 08:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jennycohn1: 7/ Is this why it’s been so hard to get certain groups to support unhackable HAND MARKED paper ballots as a primary… https://t.co/wzt9WMqZUG | Oct 10 08:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jennycohn1: 7/ Is this why it’s been so hard to get certain groups to support unhackable HAND MARKED paper ballots as a primary… https://t.co/wzt9WMqZUG | Oct 10 08:04 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 10 08:04 |
| schestowitz | 7/ Is this why it’s been so hard to get certain groups to support unhackable HAND MARKED paper ballots as a primary system as opposed to hackable machine-marked printouts from electronic BMDs?! cc: | Oct 10 08:04 |
| schestowitz | @VerifiedVoting | Oct 10 08:04 |
| schestowitz | Oct 10 08:04 | |
| schestowitz | @BrennanCenter | Oct 10 08:04 |
| schestowitz | Oct 10 08:04 | |
| schestowitz | @secureourvotes | Oct 10 08:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 10 08:04 |
| samiamsam | goodnight folks | Oct 10 08:11 |
| schestowitz | 0/ | Oct 10 08:16 |
| schestowitz | >> Someone sent me internal EPO stuff, which I wlll publish this morning | Oct 10 08:20 |
| schestowitz | > Excellent. The next step, in the big picture, and easier said than | Oct 10 08:20 |
| schestowitz | > done, would be to get some additional publications interested somehow. | Oct 10 08:20 |
| schestowitz | Several points: | Oct 10 08:20 |
| schestowitz | 1. I tried. It's not good use of time | Oct 10 08:20 |
| schestowitz | 2. Others tried. Not successfully. There's higher level muzzling | Oct 10 08:20 |
| schestowitz | 3. If others cover it, we lose our exclusivity anyway (not that I mind, it's how I console myself for (1) above) | Oct 10 08:20 |
| schestowitz | "Poor, sad anontroll." | Oct 10 08:26 |
| schestowitz | How Phipps refers to our gurst | Oct 10 08:26 |
| schestowitz | *guest | Oct 10 08:26 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/webmink/status/1182054165352239104 | Oct 10 08:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@webmink: @schestowitz Poor, sad anontroll. | Oct 10 08:26 | |
| MrGreenFriend | <oiaohm> But there will still come the point where even salted hashs will be weaking than the computer brute force power." This doesn't make sense- because u can always use stronger hashes today, and even stronger when computers get faster. (unless you are only talking about old hashes?) | Oct 10 08:26 |
| MrGreenFriend | in fact, that is a good reason to upgrade your computer--- so that u can use stronger hashes ;) hint hint, schestowitz :P | Oct 10 08:29 |
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| jagadees | see how bad things going. | Oct 10 09:40 |
| jagadees | https://daringfireball.net/2019/10/correction_regarding_an_erroneous_allegation | Oct 10 09:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-daringfireball.net | Daring Fireball: Correction: Regarding an Erroneous Allegation in ‘Richard Stallman’s Disgrace’ | Oct 10 09:40 | |
| jagadees | telling apology means nothing. the damage actually happened. nothing can revert it. | Oct 10 09:41 |
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| schestowitz | jagadees: yes | Oct 10 09:44 |
| zoobab | :win 13 | Oct 10 10:04 |
| schestowitz | wrong window? | Oct 10 10:11 |
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| chomwitt | so RMS is ESR ? | Oct 10 10:24 |
| chomwitt | i am confused | Oct 10 10:24 |
| chomwitt | so what is the disgrace exactly ? publicly falsly accusing someone or someone eating his foot ? | Oct 10 10:26 |
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| schestowitz | facts aren't valued anymore | Oct 10 10:32 |
| schestowitz | agenda and money | Oct 10 10:32 |
| zoobab | wrong window | Oct 10 10:36 |
| schestowitz | what's what she said | Oct 10 10:40 |
| zoobab | https://neritam.wordpress.com/2019/10/08/open-source-is-just-oem-software/ | Oct 10 10:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | Open source is just OEM software – neritam | Oct 10 10:41 | |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16202546 | Oct 10 11:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Damage done. RMS slandered. Correction far too late. And #FSF now censoring people who defend RMS from such slander? https://daringfireball.net/2019/10/correction_regarding_an_erroneous_allegation | Oct 10 11:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16202514 | Oct 10 11:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Why do the FSF staff censor an email like this supporting the founder of their organization and the founder of the Free Software movement?" https://danielpocock.com/what-does-fsf-censor/ #fsf #censorship @fsf | Oct 10 11:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> What does the FSF censor during the Richard Stallman lynching? | DanielPocock.com | Oct 10 11:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16202499 | Oct 10 11:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #debian and others, maybe #fsf and #fsfe included, even #gsoc IIRC, censor #danielpocock so please do follow him by RSS (he covers critical issues) https://danielpocock.com/feed.xml | Oct 10 11:56 | |
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| oiaohm | MrGreenFriend: true to a point you can use stronger hashs this does depend how if quantum like tech takes off so able massive brute force. | Oct 10 11:57 |
| oiaohm | chomwitt: really it does not help that both RMS and ESR have been questionable in their own ways. | Oct 10 12:00 |
| schestowitz | what bizarre reasoning | Oct 10 12:01 |
| schestowitz | so if someone dislikes me and X, then attributing the views of X to me is sort of acceptable? | Oct 10 12:01 |
| jagadees | world became ultra rationalists. | Oct 10 12:02 |
| schestowitz | nationalists also | Oct 10 12:03 |
| schestowitz | like Modi | Oct 10 12:03 |
| jagadees | yes | Oct 10 12:03 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Problem here is both RMS and ESR did socialize a lot and did share the same stage speaking on their different points of view. Human memory error can kick in here. | Oct 10 12:04 |
| jagadees | there is no problem with rms. | Oct 10 12:05 |
| jagadees | the problem is with media working for money | Oct 10 12:05 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Its not exactly acceptable to make the mistake but the mistake is understandable when you remember RMS and ESR at different events had being on stage together talking about those topics. Basically someone memory mixed up who for and who was against. | Oct 10 12:05 |
| jagadees | and idiots who dont ask questions. | Oct 10 12:05 |
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| jagadees | why this kind of memory loss happens to people only for those who are criticizing system? | Oct 10 12:07 |
| jagadees | if you are with status quo then no issue. everybody is happy. | Oct 10 12:07 |
| oiaohm | jagadees: its not just memory loss. The problem is if you are digging back though transcripts with searchs todo a fast fact check. | Oct 10 12:07 |
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| oiaohm | jagadees: the fact RMS and ESR woiuld appear in the same transcripts..... | Oct 10 12:08 |
| oiaohm | So unless you facted checked carefully that screw up was well and truly possible. | Oct 10 12:08 |
| oiaohm | Its not uncommon for a fact check error like this to happen and different parties have to public corrections. | Oct 10 12:09 |
| jagadees | its not about fact check. even before they digging through the transcript they made up their mind for one particular goal. | Oct 10 12:09 |
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| oiaohm | jagadees: exactly human bias lot of media shows human bias. | Oct 10 12:10 |
| jagadees | that has a purpose. | Oct 10 12:10 |
| jagadees | its politics. | Oct 10 12:10 |
| schestowitz_log | mgoomi"Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics, you can leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone." | Oct 10 12:10 |
| jagadees | yes | Oct 10 12:11 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1182249397377261568 | Oct 10 12:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #FSF lost control of its mission and spirit -- not to mention trust -- the moment (within >minutes<) it lost its fo… https://t.co/zJypUDuMPA | Oct 10 12:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #FSF lost control of its mission and spirit -- not to mention trust -- the moment (within >minutes<) it lost its fo… https://t.co/zJypUDuMPA | Oct 10 12:11 | |
| schestowitz | People get the government their behavior deserves. People deserve better than that." | Oct 10 12:11 |
| oiaohm | It some ways in early history of open source that different groups though ESR and RMS was the same person made it appear as one badly behaved person total. | Oct 10 12:11 |
| schestowitz | "I could have made money this way, and perhaps amused myself writing code. But I knew that at the end of my career, I would look back on years of building walls to divide people, and feel I had spent my life making the world a worse place." | Oct 10 12:11 |
| schestowitz | -rms | Oct 10 12:11 |
| oiaohm | So its been useful until now. | Oct 10 12:11 |
| oiaohm | Mistakes over what is RMS and what is ESR has been going on for about 25 years. | Oct 10 12:12 |
| oiaohm | Without being corrected. | Oct 10 12:12 |
| jagadees | (who is ESR?) | Oct 10 12:13 |
| oiaohm | jagadees: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_S._Raymond | Oct 10 12:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Eric S. Raymond - Wikipedia | Oct 10 12:13 | |
| jagadees | i actually dont know that person at all. | Oct 10 12:14 |
| jagadees | i think he has nothing to do with free software movement. right? | Oct 10 12:15 |
| schestowitz | good, you don't need to know him | Oct 10 12:15 |
| schestowitz | nothing good to know | Oct 10 12:15 |
| jagadees | last 21 years i am supporting free software movement from outside. | Oct 10 12:17 |
| schestowitz | he became irrelevant almost 2 decades ago, so turned to promoting fringe right politics | Oct 10 12:17 |
| oiaohm | jagadees: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar This book in the open source world he is most known for. | Oct 10 12:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The Cathedral and the Bazaar - Wikipedia | Oct 10 12:17 | |
| oiaohm | jagadees: does not help that RMS has quoted stuff from that book at times as well. | Oct 10 12:18 |
| jagadees | i completely ignored the so called open source means OEM Softwares | Oct 10 12:18 |
| schestowitz | zoobab mentioned your article a few hours ago here | Oct 10 12:20 |
| schestowitz | you were offline at the time, jagadees | Oct 10 12:20 |
| jagadees | any issues? | Oct 10 12:23 |
| oiaohm | jagadees: https://web.archive.org/web/20170624201402/http://innovate.ucsb.edu/799-richard-stallman-free-software-and-copyleft RMS and ESR appeared at the same events fighting for different points of view on open source software. | Oct 10 12:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Innovation Group » Blog Archive » Richard Stallman, Free Software, and Copyleft | Oct 10 12:23 | |
| jagadees | comments> | Oct 10 12:23 |
| oiaohm | jagadees: ESR is more your BSD license camp. | Oct 10 12:23 |
| oiaohm | jagadees: and of course RMS is more your GPL license camp and both of them having major moral and view of the world issues. | Oct 10 12:24 |
| oiaohm | jagadees: you would have had to have seen a few of the GPL vs BSD camp arguements at times. | Oct 10 12:25 |
| jagadees | i dont have much idea about bsd | Oct 10 12:26 |
| jagadees | all licenses other than gpl can do only one thing. | Oct 10 12:26 |
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| jagadees | keep the 4 rights as it is and add more if needed. | Oct 10 12:27 |
| oiaohm | jagadees: so you own the GPL/GNU camp of must have the 4 rights. | Oct 10 12:27 |
| jagadees | actually all are in gpl/gnu camp | Oct 10 12:28 |
| jagadees | who else the the world want less free system | Oct 10 12:28 |
| jagadees | but some does not know who they are | Oct 10 12:29 |
| jagadees | so be chained to masters command. | Oct 10 12:29 |
| oiaohm | There are some cases where I know GPL/GNU don't suit but they are rare. | Oct 10 12:29 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16202964 | Oct 10 12:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In 4 days it will have been a month since "War on Stallman" began (declared by #corporatemedia funded by Bill Gates' close friend, spreading misinformation and then BRAGGING that RMS was removed) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128122 | Oct 10 12:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tuxmachines.org | Stallman Under Fire for Views on Epstein | Tux Machines | Oct 10 12:56 | |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16202986 | Oct 10 12:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How to remove prominent people from their job. 1) foster an online mob 2) tell the mob it's serving a moral, ethical goal 3) use the #corporatemedia to tell this mob a bunch of lies about the target 4) get popcorn, enjoy the lynching, witch hunts | Oct 10 12:56 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Proprietary Software Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129128 #discord #apple #proprietary [https://pleroma.site/objects/67cb6b49-4bfe-4352-acf1-a6f6f2a44284] | Oct 10 15:41 | |
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| XRevan86 | https://isitblockedinrussia.com/?host=itsfoss.com | Oct 10 15:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-isitblockedinrussia.com | Is It Blocked In Russia? | Oct 10 15:46 | |
| schestowitz | WOW!! | Oct 10 15:59 |
| schestowitz | Why? | Oct 10 15:59 |
| XRevan86 | IP collision again | Oct 10 15:59 |
| schestowitz | well, so they need to fix their shitty system | Oct 10 16:00 |
| XRevan86 | It happens all the time that blocked IPs in Russia get used by legitimate servers. | Oct 10 16:00 |
| XRevan86 | A Russian person asked in XMPP why itsfoss.com hasn't been working for several days %) | Oct 10 16:01 |
| XRevan86 | These IPs belong to Cloudflare, by the way. | Oct 10 16:02 |
| schestowitz | ok, soo... | Oct 10 16:02 |
| schestowitz | would you say that can be used as an argument against usign CF? | Oct 10 16:02 |
| schestowitz | Because yesterday I have a client at work advice re CF | Oct 10 16:02 |
| XRevan86 | https://isitblockedinrussia.com/?host=mate-desktop.org | Oct 10 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-isitblockedinrussia.com | Is It Blocked In Russia? | Oct 10 16:03 | |
| schestowitz | and I need more ammo against using CF | Oct 10 16:03 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Not really, to be honest. It's more of Roskomnadzor thing. | Oct 10 16:03 |
| XRevan86 | If some gambling website hides behind Cloudflare, they'll block those IPs and won't care one bit. | Oct 10 16:04 |
| schestowitz | ahahah | Oct 10 16:06 |
| schestowitz | well, still | Oct 10 16:06 |
| schestowitz | so if your site has CF IPs | Oct 10 16:06 |
| schestowitz | then you end up collateral damahe | Oct 10 16:06 |
| schestowitz | *damage | Oct 10 16:07 |
| oiaohm | Party cloudflares fault for not sorting IP usage by usage type. | Oct 10 16:07 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Yes, but that is caused only by the whole general idea of a proxy service like that. | Oct 10 16:09 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: This reminds me of when they blocked OVH's subnets, and Scaleway's… | Oct 10 16:10 |
| schestowitz | I remember that... | Oct 10 16:14 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: that's a mitigation tactic | Oct 10 16:15 |
| schestowitz | does not change the issue with shared IPs for content delivery at CDN level | Oct 10 16:15 |
| schestowitz | Swapnil: "Dear @ZDNet we don’t need auto-playing videos, PLEASE. I am a video journalist, and I hate these. Please." | Oct 10 16:30 |
| schestowitz | You're not a journalist, you're a #zemlinpac hack who's paid for PR services. You call yourself "filmmaker" (WTF!). | Oct 10 16:30 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SwapBhartiya/status/1182026434367410180 | Oct 10 16:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SwapBhartiya: Dear @ZDNet we don’t need auto-playing videos, PLEASE. I am a video journalist, and I hate these. Please. | Oct 10 16:30 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SwapBhartiya/status/1182282775241592833 | Oct 10 16:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SwapBhartiya: Updated all my Macs to Catalina. Everything worked like a charm. No issues on any machine. I love sidecar that turn… https://t.co/hQHoQxKudl | Oct 10 16:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SwapBhartiya: Updated all my Macs to Catalina. Everything worked like a charm. No issues on any machine. I love sidecar that turn… https://t.co/hQHoQxKudl | Oct 10 16:32 | |
| schestowitz | lol | Oct 10 16:32 |
| schestowitz | Swapnil | Oct 10 16:32 |
| schestowitz | you make yourself so easy a target | Oct 10 16:32 |
| schestowitz | The SOLE EDITOR of Linux dot com is using multiple “MACS” (just like Zemlin) | Oct 10 16:33 |
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| MrGreenFriend | <schestowitz> The SOLE EDITOR of Linux dot com is using multiple “MACS” (just like Zemlin)" WOW, it is great that you point this out schestowitz! | Oct 10 21:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | System76 Will Begin Shipping 2 Linux Laptops With Coreboot-Based Open Source Firmware | Oct 10 21:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2019/10/10/system76-will-begin-shipping-2-linux-laptops-with-coreboot-based-open-source-firmware/#50038ee24e64 | Oct 10 21:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | System76 Will Begin Shipping 2 Linux Laptops With Coreboot-Based Open Source Firmware | Oct 10 21:20 | |
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| MinceR | https://youtu.be/ZF6akDuRyzc | Oct 10 21:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Matrix low cost version - YouTube | Oct 10 21:38 | |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Important information is left out | Oct 10 21:51 |
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| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Will it use SeaBIOS? | Oct 10 21:52 |
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| MinceR | would it be bad if it did? | Oct 10 22:16 |
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| decnet | Windows Error Reporting Manager arbitrary file move Elevation of Privilege (CVE-2019-1315) | Oct 10 22:19 |
| decnet | https://offsec.almond.consulting/windows-error-reporting-arbitrary-file-move-eop.html | Oct 10 22:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-offsec.almond.consulting | Windows Error Reporting Manager arbitrary file move Elevation of Privilege (CVE-2019-1315) - Almond Offensive Security Blog | Oct 10 22:19 | |
| decnet | Jesus tap-dancing christ~1 | Oct 10 22:20 |
| decnet | "an unprivileged user can change it to an NTFS junction" | Oct 10 22:21 |
| MinceR | where's the fancy brand name, logo and merchandise? | Oct 10 22:21 |
| decnet | What were 'NTFS junctions' called before Microsoft invented them ;] | Oct 10 22:22 |
| MinceR | links, i forget which | Oct 10 22:23 |
| decnet | Haa .. you owe billg $10 each time you use a link ;] | Oct 10 22:24 |
| decnet | Lockout at WBAI - "Off The Hook" indefinitely suspended - update https://www.2600.com/content/lockout-wbai-hook-indefinitely-suspended-update | Oct 10 22:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LOCKOUT AT WBAI - "OFF THE HOOK" INDEFINITELY SUSPENDED - UPDATE | 2600 | Oct 10 22:26 | |
| decnet | Does anyone still read 2600 ? | Oct 10 22:26 |
| decnet | https://www.2600.com/content/lockout-wbai-hook-indefinitely-suspended-update | Oct 10 22:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: No. Instead they could add something inflexible as a payload, like Linux. | Oct 10 22:37 |
| scientes | decnet, ntfs junctions are the one thing that ntfs-3g doesn't implement | Oct 10 22:38 |
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| XRevan86 | Okay, this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life: | Oct 10 22:53 |
| XRevan86 | brace yourselves | Oct 10 22:54 |
| XRevan86 | https://php.net/manual/en/function.mktime.php | Oct 10 22:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.php.net | PHP: mktime - Manual | Oct 10 22:54 | |
| XRevan86 | mktime($hour, $minute, $second, $month, $day, $year, $is_dst) | Oct 10 22:54 |
| scientes | > $day, $year | Oct 10 22:55 |
| XRevan86 | * mktime($hour, $minute, $second, $month, $day, $year) | Oct 10 22:55 |
| scientes | that part? | Oct 10 22:55 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Actually, the whole order. | Oct 10 22:56 |
| MinceR | 'murukah | Oct 10 22:56 |
| scientes | php also has sunrise and sunset functions | Oct 10 22:56 |
| scientes | so go figure | Oct 10 22:56 |
| scientes | https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.date-sunrise.php | Oct 10 22:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.php.net | PHP: date_sunrise - Manual | Oct 10 22:56 | |
| scientes | i think its the only language with that | Oct 10 22:57 |
| scientes | libc-avr also has it IIRC | Oct 10 22:57 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: That can at least be useful, even if invokes libastral | Oct 10 22:57 |
| scientes | this? https://lurkmore.to/Libastral | Oct 10 22:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lurkmore.to | Libastral — Lurkmore | Oct 10 22:58 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's a whole new level of 'murikah-ness. | Oct 10 22:58 |
| scientes | cool, I was thinking of writing something like that once | Oct 10 22:58 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 10 22:58 |
| scientes | cause i couldn't find it | Oct 10 22:58 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I forgot it's a Russian meme (: | Oct 10 22:58 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: but yes | Oct 10 22:59 |
| scientes | so is there actual code? | Oct 10 23:00 |
| scientes | or it just a joke? | Oct 10 23:00 |
| XRevan86 | https://libastralso.sourceforge.io/ there's this, but I don't know what it does | Oct 10 23:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libastral.so download | SourceForge.net | Oct 10 23:01 | |
| XRevan86 | Really it's a joke. | Oct 10 23:01 |
| scientes | pretty geeky joke | Oct 10 23:02 |
| scientes | i like it | Oct 10 23:02 |
| scientes | its even existential | Oct 10 23:03 |
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| scientes | not many existential jokes in english | Oct 10 23:03 |
| XRevan86 | What's existential about it? %) | Oct 10 23:04 |
| XRevan86 | - Debian won't install. Help! | Oct 10 23:06 |
| XRevan86 | - Sorry, haven't built libastral.so.5 yet and telepaths are on vacation. | Oct 10 23:06 |
| scientes | same joke: https://www.xkcd.com/353/ | Oct 10 23:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Python | Oct 10 23:06 | |
| scientes | "import antigravity" | Oct 10 23:06 |
| scientes | sort of.... | Oct 10 23:06 |
| XRevan86 | Or, alternatively: | Oct 10 23:06 |
| XRevan86 | - How did you know!? | Oct 10 23:06 |
| XRevan86 | - With libastral.so.5 of course | Oct 10 23:06 |
| scientes | yeah, I guess that isn't existential, more absurdist | Oct 10 23:07 |
| *scientes actually watched Waiting for Godot | Oct 10 23:07 | |
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| XRevan86 | Brought to you by: the language newspeak of which has a famous "seer" as a verb for predicting the future (of any quality). | Oct 10 23:09 |
| XRevan86 | https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/ванговать what doesn't Wiktionary have… | Oct 10 23:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ru.wiktionary.org | ванговать — Викисловарь | Oct 10 23:10 | |
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| MinceR | http://existentialcomics.com/comic/227 | Oct 10 23:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | Philosophy News Network: The Evil Demon - Existential Comics | Oct 10 23:39 | |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/07/30/43320db76ac5ac10.jpg | Oct 10 23:43 |
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| scientes | OK, if a scholarship requires a bachelors degree (which I don't have) | Oct 10 23:57 |
| scientes | should I 1) lie, or 2) ask for an exemption | Oct 10 23:57 |
| scientes | cause I think I can get the scholarship on personal merit | Oct 10 23:57 |
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