●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 ●● ● Nov 10 [00:00] schestowitz Mandy: let's blow money on shit [00:00] schestowitz Ryan: let's buy something the cats can blow shit on [00:00] DaemonFC schestowitz, $16.48 for 40 pounds of Arm & Hammer. It was $11 and something last time I looked. [00:00] DaemonFC I just grabbed all the Walmart brand I normally use. [00:00] DaemonFC At least when THEY raise the price I won't have to pay it for a while. [00:01] schestowitz not just raise the price [00:01] schestowitz add purchasing quotas [00:01] schestowitz last spring people did a run on toilet papers [00:02] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [00:02] DaemonFC schestowitz, For some reason, I have a closet full of toilet paper. [00:02] schestowitz for a while, months maybe, people needed to buy the more expensive brands left on shelves [00:02] DaemonFC Walmart was getting rid of a Charmin Basic brand for half off. [00:02] schestowitz you can bet your arse people felt softness for a whole [00:02] DaemonFC Had a cart full of it. I bought a bunch. [00:02] schestowitz *while [00:02] schestowitz no more cheap brand papers [00:03] DaemonFC No, they don't want those on the shelf anymore. [00:03] schestowitz you're like your grandma !! [00:03] schestowitz did you put all the litter under the bed (yet)? [00:03] DaemonFC Toilet paper doesn't swell up and explode if you leave it there. [00:03] DaemonFC Canned vegetables do that after 20 years you know. :) [00:04] DaemonFC schestowitz, It wasn't a waste of money. [00:04] DaemonFC She got Gonad pretty good with her Y2K stockpile. He broke his foot on it in 2006. [00:05] DaemonFC I would have bought the whole thing for her with my own money had I known that would happen 7 years later. [00:06] AdmFubar1 time for a bidet... [00:07] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [00:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [00:10] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.06 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 5.03 swarm size (avg): 261.16 [00:11] schestowitz AdmFubar1: that has its own issues [00:12] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [00:17] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [00:18] AdmFubar1 it makes for a hell of a wake up in the morning with a splash of cold water.. ;) [00:19] schestowitz afaik, it was originally for women [00:19] schestowitz nothing "anal" [00:19] schestowitz more for mensuration [00:19] *altlink_4a6 has quit (connection closed) [00:20] *altlink_b2b (~altlink_b2b@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #techrights [00:20] schestowitz then those same companies wanted to pursue broader market [00:20] schestowitz and integrated it into standard toilets [00:20] schestowitz it never caught on [00:21] schestowitz if you curse enough you get enough paper [00:21] schestowitz ask Stallone and the "shells" [00:22] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [00:23] DaemonFC https://www.pcmag.com/news/reading-writing-and-online-bots-school-reopenings-stymie-teens-reseller [00:23] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: pcmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/news/reading-writing-and-online-bots-school-reopenings-stymie-teens-reseller [00:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reading, Writing, and Online Bots: School Reopenings Stymie Teens' Reseller Gigs | PCMag [00:23] DaemonFC Dillon isnt alone. The pandemic inspired people of all ages who were stuck at home to try reselling products online, according to a reseller who goes by the name Atlas. "The government is sending you money. You're not leaving your house. You own a computer. Things definitely a hundred percent blew up during COVID," Atlas said, noting he now makes more money reselling than he did as a mechanical engineer. [00:24] schestowitz-TR it is still VERY competitive [00:24] schestowitz-TR with amazon and all [00:25] schestowitz-TR rianne sells using ebay [00:25] DaemonFC This is crazy. [00:25] DaemonFC Things she made, or is she hoarding PS5s? [00:25] schestowitz-TR clearance sales [00:25] DaemonFC Well, that at least makes some sense. [00:26] DaemonFC Scalping isn't new. [00:26] DaemonFC In Christmas 1996, I was looking all over for Nintendo 64s. [00:26] DaemonFC Nintendo was deliberately holding them back to sell the ones it sent out at higher prices. [00:27] DaemonFC Classified ads in the paper said if you wanted a N64 for your kids for Christmas, they had them for $600, like, you know, 3x the list price. [00:27] DaemonFC Money was worth a lot more back then. [00:27] DaemonFC And nobody was paying $600 retail for a game console. [00:28] DaemonFC To put that in today's terms, it's like buying a PS5 for $600 and then putting it on ebay for $1,800. [00:28] DaemonFC If scalpers run the stores out of supply and Christmas is coming up, they may even get away with it. [00:30] techrights-news #AMD EPYC 7003 Series Performance Across Autumn 2021 Linux Distributions Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157752 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMD EPYC 7003 Series Performance Across Autumn 2021 Linux Distributions | Tux Machines [00:30] activelow an SBC with 2GiB RAM got more power than an N64, and sells for... ~50 [00:30] techrights-news #Server: Ubuntu, SUSE and Containers/Kubernetes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157753 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Server: Ubuntu, SUSE and Containers/Kubernetes | Tux Machines [00:31] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, In ten more years, there won't be USDs. There will be radroaches and bottlecaps. [00:31] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157754 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:31] schestowitz and NFT billionaires [00:32] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [00:32] techrights-news #DRM , #ProprietarySoftware , and #Security Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157755 #TuxMachines [00:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DRM, Proprietary Software, and Security | Tux Machines [00:32] schestowitz with a MEEEELION 'friends' in Facebook [00:32] DaemonFC I always did like Fallout, even at its worst, it's funny sometimes. [00:32] DaemonFC Like, the first thing you can kill are usually radroaches. [00:32] techrights-news #Firefox Issues and Promotion of #Microsoft Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157756 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox Issues and Promotion of Microsoft | Tux Machines [00:33] DaemonFC And you can loot them for radioactive cockroach meat. [00:33] techrights-news #OpenUK Awards 2021, COP26 and #KDE Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157757 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenUK Awards 2021, COP26 and KDE | Tux Machines [00:37] techrights-news Links 10/11/2021: #KDE Plasma 5.23.3 and Ncurses 6.3 Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/11/09/ncurses-6-3/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/09/ncurses-6-3/ [00:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 10/11/2021: KDE Plasma 5.23.3 and Ncurses 6.3 | Techrights [00:37] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [00:39] schestowitz earthworm as appetiser [00:40] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:41] DaemonFC I never eat radroach. [00:41] DaemonFC The number of HP it restores isn't worth the rads. [00:41] techrights-news #HowTo install the Olive #VideoEditor on Elementary OS 6.0 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xLteTsZ9jCg #video #invidious [00:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How to install the Olive Video Editor on Elementary OS 6.0 - Invidious [00:42] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [00:42] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:43] DaemonFC You can drink irradiated blood, but that has like half as many rads as HP restoration. [00:43] DaemonFC It's better to scrap it for nuclear material. [00:44] DaemonFC There's very few things in the game that restores HP with no rads. Mostly stimpaks and purified water. [00:46] techrights-news Havent switched from #CentOS 8 yet? Here are your options - TechCrunch https://techcrunch.com/2021/11/08/havent-switched-from-centos-8-yet-here-are-your-options/ #techcrunch [00:46] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: techcrunch.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://techcrunch.com/2021/11/08/havent-switched-from-centos-8-yet-here-are-your-options/ [00:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Havent switched from CentOS 8 yet? Here are your options TechCrunch [00:46] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [00:47] techrights-news #hp is helping #microsoft attack #gnu #linux now. Whoever runs HP also helped Microsoft attack #gnu #linux in Munich. Rogue company. [00:48] techrights-news "Extend......... Windows: - may be slow - runs all your Windows apps - runs 99% of Linux apps through WSL2, and even GUI ones Linux: - is fast - runs all your Linux apps - only runs 70% of Windows apps through Wine... This is a problem." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1289861-hp-to-begin-pre-loading-wsl2-for-windows-on-upcoming-hp-workstations [00:48] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1289861-hp-to-begin-pre-loading-wsl2-for-windows-on-upcoming-hp-workstations [00:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-HP To Begin Pre-Loading WSL2 For Windows On Upcoming HP Workstations - Phoronix Forums [00:49] *l0de_ is now known as l0de [00:50] activelow neither wine nor WSL are decent system architecture, both flawed by design [00:50] activelow the best option among WSL and wine? choose neither. [00:50] activelow none of this. [00:52] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [00:52] schestowitz Microsoft getting desperate [00:52] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:52] schestowitz anything to prevent people from installing the real thing [00:52] schestowitz first uefi slave boot [00:52] DaemonFC schestowitz, Nobody has done a census of appdb lately. [00:52] schestowitz by Matthew GAFAM [00:52] schestowitz now this [00:52] DaemonFC It may well be more than 70% of Windows applications running on Wine. [00:52] schestowitz WSLg [00:53] DaemonFC I have problems with some that require hacking to work around. [00:53] DaemonFC But most of those are VERY complicated and engineered such that they gratuitously depend on Windows crap, like Fallout 4 with WMA. [00:54] DaemonFC And it using Direct3D 11 even though it didn't perform any better than 10. [00:54] DaemonFC There really wasn't a performance advantage in Direct3D from 9.0c through 11. [00:54] DaemonFC And 12 is faster because they based it on Vulkan and renamed all of the features. [00:55] activelow i blacklisted all of it: mesa, opengl, egl, vulkan, dxvk [00:55] activelow neat side effect of this, alot of updates and related news are irelevant now [00:56] activelow by coincidence, this too kicked out qt5 and qt6... which isn't desireable for many, i can live with it and advice anyone to think about it [00:57] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [00:57] DaemonFC I dislike Qt. [00:57] DaemonFC I hear MPV is something I should look at. [00:58] activelow the media player? well, it's ok. removed various vendor-specific gpu extension from mpv too btw. ● Nov 10 [01:02] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [01:04] *kingoffrance (~x__@4mmu4fx6g3jvs.irc) has joined #techrights [01:06] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:06] techrights-news #microsoft now trying to leverage OEMs to wrest control over #gnu #linux ... see history's lessons about this strategy http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/java-schism-to-wrest-control/ [01:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Historys Lesson: Microsoft Now Does to GNU/Linux What It Did to Java (Creating Schism to Wrest Control) | Techrights [01:07] activelow began to hate application specific closed processing units, GPUs. the fact alone, their cores cannot be utilized directly and freely by the operating system... what a nonsense is this? [01:07] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [01:08] activelow seems, by design, this is intended to lock out developers. some reasons exist, general purpose cpu cores are slower with graphics processing. even these can be addressed. [01:08] techrights-news The GNU GPL violations arent the only reason not to buy a Vizio TV. They barely support their products and they spy. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156985#comment-31729 [01:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Vizio Sued for GPL Violations | Tux Machines [01:09] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@2imfk36trf2ze.irc) has joined #techrights [01:09] techrights-news Why #microsoft leans on #hp right now http://techrights.org/2020/05/06/wsl2-usage-numbers/ [01:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Only About 150,000 People Worldwide Use WSL2 (Windows Subsystem for Linux) | Techrights [01:09] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/qq5lj2/over_2000_pounds_of_fresh_pork_being_rejected_by [01:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Over 2,000 pounds of fresh pork being rejected by the walmart distribution center because the sell by dates occur when their stores are closed for Thanksgiving. This product will still be safe to eat for the next 15 days but they won't even attempt to sell. This will end up in a dumpster today. : LateStageCapitalism [01:09] techrights-news Last month: #Microsoft Edge on Linux Puff Pieces and WSL2 Fake Linux Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/10/05/microsoft-puff-pieces/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/05/microsoft-puff-pieces/ [01:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Edge on Linux Puff Pieces and WSL2 Fake Linux | Techrights [01:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [01:10] techrights-news This past summer: The Death of #WSL and #WSL2 Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/the-death-of-wsl-and-wsl2/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/06/01/the-death-of-wsl-and-wsl2/ [01:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Death of WSL and WSL2 | Techrights [01:12] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [01:12] techrights-news Jason Perlow (Microsoft) et al now spamming #linuxfoundation Web site for #spamnil because nobody watches his videos. This is how LF goes down the drain. #linuxDotCom the same... http://techrights.org/2021/10/29/linux-com-spam-farm/ [01:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Spamnil is Spamming Linux.com | Techrights [01:14] techrights-news #BusyBox is BusyBox, not "Linux" https://www.techradar.com/in/news/major-security-issues-found-in-top-linux-program-for-embedded-devices [01:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Major security issues found in top Linux program for embedded devices | TechRadar [01:15] *m___ (~Adium@sskwereip3e42.irc) has joined #techrights [01:16] techrights-news Joey Sneddon wants you to think programs that run in a terminal are "APPS" https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/11/best-command-line-tools-ubuntu-linux [01:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | 10 Cool Command Line Apps for Ubuntu - OMG! Ubuntu! [01:17] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [01:21] techrights-news #WSL is NOT #linux and #wsl2 isn't #gnu #linux but #vista11 (or 11) aka NSA malware/trap disguised as something it's not. Dual-boot, use Virtual Machine... anything but this honeypot that is EEE-style attack on Free software [01:21] *mahlon has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [01:22] techrights-news Gonorrhoea vs Cholera. Or false dichotomy from the #surveillance industry https://www.maketecheasier.com/fitbit-vs-apple-watch-fitness-tracker/ [01:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Fitbit vs. Apple Watch: Which Is the Better Fitness Tracker Smartwatch? - Make Tech Easier [01:23] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.36 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.25 swarm size (avg): 261.17 [01:24] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/qqh117/well_all_frickin_righty_then/ [01:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Well, all frickin righty then : LateStageCapitalism [01:24] DaemonFC schestowitz, The US called in "Homeland Security" to spy on "social media" of some high school students because of behavior we used to call rowdiness and petty misdemeanors. [01:25] schestowitz War on terror became war on children [01:25] schestowitz enjoy bestest country on the world [01:25] schestowitz *in [01:27] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [01:27] schestowitz Why #microsoft leans on #hp right now http://techrights.org/2020/05/06/wsl2-usage-numbers/ [06:25] psydruid HP once had a workstation and server OS called HP-UX before Rick Beluzzo came in and changed it into a Microsoft shop [06:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Only About 150,000 People Worldwide Use WSL2 (Windows Subsystem for Linux) | Techrights [06:27] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.15 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 5.73 swarm size (avg): 261.26 [06:30] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [06:35] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [06:40] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [06:45] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [06:51] *koo6 has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [06:52] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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9to5Mac [07:34] techrights-news NEWS #Drones #OpenHardware Making a custom drone navigating without #GPS https://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/making-a-custom-drone-navigating-without-gps [07:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Making a custom drone navigating without GPS - Blogs - diydrones [07:35] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [07:35] techrights-news "change came as a result of Microsoft changing its policies on allowing third-party browser" https://www.pcworld.com/article/550946/mozilla-joins-the-microsoft-store.html [07:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft adds Firefox to Microsoft Store, which is kind of important | PCWorld [07:36] techrights-news [Old] #NextCloud #de First in Germany again https://nextcloud.com/blog/first-in-germany-again/ [07:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-First in Germany again Nextcloud [07:37] techrights-news >[Old] #ACM The Software Industry IS STILL the Problem: The time is (also) way overdue for IT professional liability https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3489045 [07:37] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: acm.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3489045 [07:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-queue.acm.org | The Software Industry IS STILL the Problem - ACM Queue [07:37] techrights-news >[Old] #ACM The Software Industry IS the Problem: The time has come for software liability laws. https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2030258 [07:37] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: acm.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2030258 [07:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-queue.acm.org | The Software Industry IS the Problem - ACM Queue [07:38] techrights-news NEWS #IndiaTimes #Hardware Chip shortage creates new power players https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/chip-shortage-creates-new-power-players/87603401 [07:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | chip: Chip shortage creates new power players, IT News, ET CIO [07:40] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [07:40] techrights-news NEWS #ITWire #ProprietarySoftware #Microsoft patches two actively exploited zero-days in monthly fixes https://itwire.com/security/microsoft-patches-two-actively-exploited-zero-days-in-monthly-fixes.html [07:40] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/security/microsoft-patches-two-actively-exploited-zero-days-in-monthly-fixes.html [07:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Microsoft patches two actively exploited zero-days in monthly fixes [07:41] schestowitz psydruid: good to know you remember of heard of Beluzzo [07:41] schestowitz we mentioned Beluzzo many times in Techrights [07:41] schestowitz Beluzzo became part of a catchphrase [07:42] schestowitz kingoffrance: even Mozilla does not brag about Firefox being fast [07:42] schestowitz because it is not fast [07:43] techrights-news #techrights Ryan: "Phoronix did two Windows articles today. Once about HP doing Fake Linux on Windows and one about GNU ncurses supporting Yet Another Shitty Microsoft Terminal." http://techrights.org/2021/04/20/phoronix-and-microsoft/ [07:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Phoronix Needs to Exercise Caution and Stay Vigilant/Careful of Microsoft | Techrights [07:43] schestowitz [04:46] Once about HP doing Fake Linux on Windows and one about GNU ncurses supporting Yet Another Shitty Microsoft Terminal. [07:43] schestowitz it was a twist [07:44] schestowitz [20:48] Michael from #phoronix read this message and managed to spin that into #ProprietarySoftware #microsoft 'news' (noise) https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu/2021-11/msg00001.html [07:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | ncurses 6.3 [07:45] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [07:45] techrights-news From antiterror to treating kids like terrorists. US isn't a free country, it's Downtown Beirut. https://theintercept.com/2021/11/09/homeland-security-surveillance-school-fights/ [07:45] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: theintercept.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://theintercept.com/2021/11/09/homeland-security-surveillance-school-fights/ [07:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theintercept.com | Schools Welcome Homeland Security Surveillance of Students [07:47] techrights-news USA, what have you become? https://olxpraca.com/schools-welcome-students-homeland-security-monitoring/ [07:47] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: olxpraca.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://olxpraca.com/schools-welcome-students-homeland-security-monitoring/ [07:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Schools welcome students' Homeland Security monitoring. - OlxPraca.com - Job Offer Ads [07:48] techrights-news People pay premium fares/prices for this? https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/09/iphone_13_display_repair/ [07:48] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/09/iphone_13_display_repair/ [07:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Apple promises software fix in iPhone 13 screen repair row The Register [07:49] techrights-news NEWS #IndiaTimes #Privacy #Surveillance #China will advance development of digital yuan, central bank gov says https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/china-will-advance-development-of-digital-yuan-central-bank-gov-says/87604512 [07:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | china: China will advance development of digital yuan, central bank gov says, IT News, ET CIO [07:49] techrights-news NEWS #TheVerge #Privacy #Surveillance Googles Nest Hub gets more sleep tracking features https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/9/22771943/nest-hub-update-sleep-tracking-quality [07:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Googles Nest Hub gets more sleep tracking features - The Verge [07:50] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [07:55] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [07:55] techrights-news New Raspberry Pi OS Includes Hidden Speed Boost and 64-Bit Option http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157681#comment-31730 [07:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Official Raspberry Pi OS Is Now Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye | Tux Machines [07:57] techrights-news Distribution Release: 3CX Phone System 10 https://distrowatch.com/?newsid=11393 #gnu #linux [07:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Distribution Release: 3CX Phone System 10 (DistroWatch.com News) ● Nov 10 [08:00] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [08:02] techrights-news #javascript over the Web creates #surveillance issues, among others. Also #security practices abused. On the desktop, it's bloat. I think I'll drop JS from the #programming section altogether.JS itself might be OK, but promotes bad practices... [08:03] techrights-news #HowTo Start With #WordPress CMS? https://linuxhint.com/wordpress-cms-beginner-guide/ it became too bloated and inelegant in recent years. [08:03] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: linuxhint.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxhint.com/wordpress-cms-beginner-guide/ [08:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | How To Start With WordPress CMS? [08:05] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [08:10] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [08:11] techrights-news Not only #parler but also #twitter ignored signs of violence about to break out on Jan 6th. I even reported this to Twitter. They obviously didn't care. #trump and Trumpism made them money. [08:12] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:13] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157759 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [08:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [08:17] techrights-news Proprietary and #Security Issues Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157760 #TuxMachines [08:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary and Security Issues | Tux Machines [08:17] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [08:18] techrights-news NEWS #IndiaTimes #Energy #Bitcoin inflows hit record high so far in 2021 https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/bitcoin-inflows-hit-record-high-so-far-in-2021/87603536 [08:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Bitcoin latest price: Bitcoin inflows hit record high so far in 2021, IT News, ET CIO [08:18] techrights-news NEWS #ABC #Energy #Bitcoin -mining power plant raises ire of environmentalists https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/bitcoin-mining-power-plant-raises-ire-environmentalists-80618790 [08:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Bitcoin-mining power plant raises ire of environmentalists - ABC News [08:18] techrights-news NEWS #BusinessInsider #Energy #Bitcoin 's record-high price means its energy use is soaring again - just as the world tries to tackle #climate change at COP26 https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/currencies/bitcoin-record-high-price-energy-consumption-mining-cop26-ethereum-2021-11 [08:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-markets.businessinsider.com | Bitcoin's record-high price means its energy use is soaring again - just as the world tries to tackle climate change at COP26 | Currency News | Financial and Business News | Markets Insider [08:20] techrights-news NEWS #NBC #politics #Facebook credits automated improvements for finding violent content https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/facebook-credits-automated-improvements-finding-violent-content-rcna4988 [08:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Facebook credits automated improvements for finding violent content [08:22] techrights-news NEWS #TheHill #Censorship Poll: 69 percent say cancel culture unfairly punishes people for past actions, statements https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/580747-poll-69-percent-say-cancel-culture-unfairly-punishes-people-for [08:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Poll: 69 percent say cancel culture unfairly punishes people for past actions, statements | TheHill [08:22] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [08:27] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.26 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 7.10 swarm size (avg): 261.30 [08:27] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [08:29] schestowitz x https://mastodon.alirezahayati.com/@arh/107240288970579765 [08:29] schestowitz # no, he wanted nothing to do with reddit. it only acquired the company he helped found, [08:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.alirezahayati.com | Ali Reza Hayati: "Today is Aaron Swartz birthday. Because of him, w" - Mastodon [08:29] schestowitz # not reddit from conde nast [08:30] techrights-news The cost of #bitcoin is an #energy cost https://fortune.com/2021/10/27/bitcoin-energy-consumption-rolling-disaster/ [08:30] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: fortune.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://fortune.com/2021/10/27/bitcoin-energy-consumption-rolling-disaster/ [08:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-There's a rolling global disaster with Bitcoin that no one is talking about | Fortune [08:32] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [08:32] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights US Court Orders 21 Sharing Site Operators to Pay $1 Million Each in Damages https://torrentfreak.com/us-court-orders-21-pirate-site-operators-to-pay-1-million-each-in-damages-211109/ [08:32] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/us-court-orders-21-pirate-site-operators-to-pay-1-million-each-in-damages-211109/ [08:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-US Court Orders 21 Pirate Site Operators to Pay $1 Million Each in Damages * TorrentFreak [08:32] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Mangabank "Suffers DDoS Attack" & Disappears Following Legal Action https://torrentfreak.com/mangabank-suffers-ddos-attack-disappears-following-legal-action-211109/ [08:32] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/mangabank-suffers-ddos-attack-disappears-following-legal-action-211109/ [08:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mangabank "Suffers DDoS Attack" & Disappears Following Legal Action * TorrentFreak [08:33] techrights-news NEWS #DemocracyNow #assange #wikileaks Julian Assanges Fiance: U.K. Blocking Our Attempt to Marry While He Is Tortured in #Belmarsh Prison https://www.democracynow.org/2021/11/9/uk_government_blocks_partner_of_julian [08:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | Julian Assanges Fiance: U.K. Blocking Our Attempt to Marry While He Is Tortured in Belmarsh Prison | Democracy Now! [08:33] techrights-news NEWS #DemocracyNow #assange #wikileaks Julian Assanges Fiance Stella Moris: WikiLeaks Helped Expose Climate Change #Hypocrisy & #WarCrimes https://www.democracynow.org/2021/11/9/stella_moris_on_wikileaks_and_climate [08:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | Julian Assanges Fiance Stella Moris: WikiLeaks Helped Expose Climate Change Hypocrisy & War Crimes | Democracy Now! [08:35] techrights-news #IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, November 09, 2021 Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/11/10/irc-log-091121/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/10/irc-log-091121/ [08:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, November 09, 2021 | Techrights [08:42] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [08:46] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [08:51] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [08:56] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights ● Nov 10 [09:01] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [09:06] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [09:15] techrights-news NEWS #torproject Youre Invited: State of the Onion 2021 https://blog.torproject.org/state-of-the-onion-2021 WOWOWOWOW! A #privacy project chose #surveillance capitalist #gulag for this! Incredible. Reaffirms my view about #tor being in the wrong hands these days... [09:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | Youre Invited: State of the Onion 2021 | Tor Blog [09:15] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [09:16] techrights-news Most epic thing ever: #tor having debates with the "community"... in platforms that block Tor :-| [09:16] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #patents #Moderna Slammed for 'Cheating US Taxpayers' in #Covid19 #Vaccine #Patent Dispute https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/11/09/moderna-slammed-cheating-us-taxpayers-covid-19-vaccine-patent-dispute [09:16] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/11/09/moderna-slammed-cheating-us-taxpayers-covid-19-vaccine-patent-dispute [09:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Moderna Slammed for 'Cheating US Taxpayers' in Covid-19 Vaccine Patent Dispute [09:18] techrights-news NEWS #EFF #Surveillance Brazils Fake News Bill: Congress Must Stand Firm on Repealing Dangerous and Disproportionate Surveillance Measures https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/11/brazils-fake-news-bill-congress-must-stand-firm-repealing-dangerous-and Surveillance is not opposed by EFF though http://techrights.org/2019/01/20/google-internship-eff/ [09:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Brazils Fake News Bill: Congress Must Stand Firm on Repealing Dangerous and Disproportionate Surveillance Measures | Electronic Frontier Foundation [09:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EFF Must Return That Internship Money to Google or It Would Disgrace the Patent Reform Movement (by Association) | Techrights [09:18] techrights-news NEWS #EFF Brazils Fake News Bill: Perils and Flaws of Expanding Existent #DataRetention Obligations https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/11/brazils-fake-news-bill-perils-and-flaws-expanding-existent-data-retention http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/eff-rogue/ [09:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Brazils Fake News Bill: Perils and Flaws of Expanding Existent Data Retention Obligations | Electronic Frontier Foundation [09:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EFF Attacks Software Freedom and Promotes Fake Privacy Linked to Microsoft | Techrights [09:20] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [09:20] techrights-news NEWS #KrebsOnSecurity #NSA #backdoors #Microsoft Patch Tuesday, November 2021 Edition https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/11/microsoft-patch-tuesday-november-2021-edition/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA [09:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | Microsoft Patch Tuesday, November 2021 Edition Krebs on Security [09:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [09:21] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Klobuchar Klobuchar, Cotton Competition Bill Latest To Pretend 'Big Tech' Is The Only Industry With Problems https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211108/11000147902/klobuchar-cotton-competition-bill-latest-to-pretend-big-tech-is-only-industry-with-problems.shtml don't say 'Big Tech'; you are helping #microsoft http://techrights.org/2021/11/09/linux-foundation-greenwash/ [09:21] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211108/11000147902/klobuchar-cotton-competition-bill-latest-to-pretend-big-tech-is-only-industry-with-problems.shtml [09:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Klobuchar, Cotton Competition Bill Latest To Pretend 'Big Tech' Is The Only Industry With Problems | Techdirt [09:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Has Become Even Worse Than Climate Science Deniers | Techrights [09:22] techrights-news NEWS #CreativeCommons CC Community Spotlight Series: Meet Tyler Green https://creativecommons.org/2021/11/09/cc-community-spotlight-series-meet-tyler-green/ [09:22] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: creativecommons.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2021/11/09/cc-community-spotlight-series-meet-tyler-green/ [09:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | CC Community Spotlight Series: Meet Tyler Green - Creative Commons [09:24] techrights-news #uk about to exceed 10 million confirmed #covid19 infections and #borisnaro "Let the Bodies Pile Up High" Johnson wants you to think this is normal. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/09/03/borisnaro-data/ [09:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive The Number of Brits Who Died (and Still Die) Because of COVID-19 is a Lot Higher Than the Official Figures [09:25] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [09:25] techrights-news This year there are far more #covid19 cases as well as "active" (not healed/cures) cases in the #uk ... after all that vaccination. So says the data. Not even an opinion. [09:27] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.75 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.41 swarm size (avg): 261.32 [09:27] techrights-news #uk gov.: yes, 262 new deaths for the day, but things are totally under control. Also, we got more #patent licences (i.e. we paid a private for-profit company for something developed with taxpayers' money) for a "booster". GO GET IT NOW OR NO XMAS!! [09:30] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [09:33] techrights-news According to #uk gov. in #nhs #england 5.8% of staff consistently rejected #covid19 jabs (in spite if IMMENSE pressure). Given they're all adults, this isn't much different from the general population and serves to discredit the stigma/stereotypes is this being a hallmark of ignorance. [09:34] techrights-news The #borisnaro regime is looking for #scapegoats at this stage (deflecting tactics) and #corruptMedia with a financial stake in #patents around #covid19 will be more than just eager to participate in the scapegoating [09:35] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [09:36] techrights-news My main issue is, #patents on #covid19 stuff should never have been allowed in the first place (time of crisis, work funded by the taxpayers anyway) and all these #monopolies discourage making BETTER vaccines (no financial incentive to eradicate this thing! They make lots of money licensing the same patents over and over again) [09:37] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Censorship #Yahoo Reminds Everyone It Still Exists By Formally Announcing Its Exit From #China https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211107/20465947895/yahoo-reminds-everyone-it-still-exists-formally-announcing-exit-china.shtml [09:37] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211107/20465947895/yahoo-reminds-everyone-it-still-exists-formally-announcing-exit-china.shtml [09:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Yahoo Reminds Everyone It Still Exists By Formally Announcing Its Exit From China | Techdirt [09:37] techrights-news #yahoo was killed by #criminals from #microsoft http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_Hijack_of_Yahoo [09:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Hijack of Yahoo - Techrights [09:40] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [09:44] techrights-news #canonical : let's just make #ubuntu a #fedora clone, it's cheaper. #ibm : let's kill off the Fedora community/project. It's cheaper for it. IBM+Canonical: let's collude with #microsoft for #pentagon money [09:44] techrights-news "Is the true path to mastering Linux fully embracing the command line? Why it's time to change our mindset about the terminal." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/146672/command-line-love-linux-unplugged-431/ [09:44] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/146672/command-line-love-linux-unplugged-431/ [09:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Command Line Love | LINUX Unplugged 431 | Jupiter Broadcasting [09:45] techrights-news #mintCast 373.5 - App-Get Install - mintCast https://mintcast.org/2021/11/10/373-5-app-get-install/ [09:45] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: mintcast.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://mintcast.org/2021/11/10/373-5-app-get-install/ [09:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mintcast.org | 373.5 App-Get Install mintCast [09:47] techrights-news #israel government: all our haters are anti-Semites. Also Israel government: let's illegally spy on the whole world, then pretend to not understand the hate. #nsogroup #espionage https://internetfreedom.in/iffs-statement-on-the-sc-pegasus-committee/ [09:47] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: internetfreedom.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/iffs-statement-on-the-sc-pegasus-committee/ [09:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internetfreedom.in | IFFs Statement on the Supreme Court Pegasus Committee [09:48] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [09:49] techrights-news #ibm #redhat pretends to be hiring again? It's a layoffs machine https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/11/how-hire-change-ready-people-8-signs-look see http://techrights.org/2021/08/21/ibm-layoffs-in-marketing/ [09:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | How to hire change-ready people: 8 signs | The Enterprisers Project [09:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Many IBM Layoffs (in Marketing), But the Media Is Not Mentioning Those Layoffs At All | Techrights [09:50] techrights-news Trying to groom CIOs to buy #redhat subscription they don't really need anyway https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/11/cio-role-how-become-advisor #ibm [09:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | CIO role: How to move from gatekeeper to advisor | The Enterprisers Project [09:52] techrights-news PCLinuxOS gets KDE upgrade http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156465#comment-31732 [09:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel and Browser Updates in PCLinuxOS | Tux Machines [09:52] techrights-news #Facebook apolgists https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211109/08202147905/techdirt-podcast-episode-304-what-everyone-gets-wrong-about-facebook.shtml [09:52] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211109/08202147905/techdirt-podcast-episode-304-what-everyone-gets-wrong-about-facebook.shtml [09:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Techdirt Podcast Episode 304: What Everyone Gets Wrong About Facebook | Techdirt [09:53] techrights-news #journalism died years ago. In most area, inc. tech and #patents , actual REPORTING has not existed for 2-5 years. https://bookshop.org/books/free-the-press-the-death-of-american-journalism-and-how-to-revive-it/9781633887664 [09:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://bookshop.org/books/free-the-press-the-death-of-american-journalism-and-how-to-revive-it/9781633887664 ) [09:53] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: bookshop.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://bookshop.org/books/free-the-press-the-death-of-american-journalism-and-how-to-revive-it/9781633887664 [09:53] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [09:55] techrights-news "EU Survey: In the future, should manufacturers be liable for security flaws in their software?" https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/107248068662604374 see : http://geer.tinho.net/geer.blackhat.6viii14.txt and : https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3489045 [09:55] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: acm.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3489045 [09:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patrick Breyer: " EU Survey: In the future, should manufacturers" - chaos.social [09:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-queue.acm.org | The Software Industry IS STILL the Problem - ACM Queue [09:58] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [09:59] techrights-news #OSI does nothing these days. Maybe better this... than their attack on the #freesw movement and #openwashing of criminal #microsoft ... pushing people to adopt the very things which ATTACK "Open Source" [09:59] techrights-news NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux Introducing Code Club World: a new way for young people to learn to code at home https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/code-club-world-free-online-platform-young-people-children-learn-to-code-at-home/ [09:59] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: raspberrypi.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/code-club-world-free-online-platform-young-people-children-learn-to-code-at-home/ ● Nov 10 [10:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Introducing Code Club World: a new way for young people to learn to code at home - Raspberry Pi [10:00] techrights-news #linuxfoundation is defunct and a total embarassment to #linux http://techrights.org/2021/11/09/linux-foundation-greenwash/ [10:02] techrights-news "a "FOSS Advocacy" foundation that actively chooses (& defends the choice) to run proprietary software over viable FOSS alternatives because this person refuses to either learn enough to run the FOSS or involve someone who can." https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/107244927707790087 [10:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.nzoss.nz | Dave Lane: "And this was motivated by discussions with someon" - Mastodon - NZOSS [10:03] techrights-news "remember when web site designers worked really hard to cut down the amount of nonsense on the web page so it would spend fewer server, network and client resources, and would load faster?" https://gnusocial.net/notice/10256919 [10:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mensaje de Alexandre Oliva (lxo@gnusocial.net), el Monday, 08-Nov-2021 21:35:27 CET - gnusocial.net [10:03] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [10:03] techrights-news "I am working on a user guide for the Sequoia sq command line tool. It's still very much incomplete and probably wrong in all sorts of ways." https://toot.liw.fi/@liw/107245607813887754 [10:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lars Wirzenius: "I am working on a user guide for the Sequoia sq c" - toot.liw.fi [10:04] techrights-news "Hard to belive but #Nextcloud is the most popular collaboration software in Germany. Ahead of Microsoft, Google, Dropbox and many others." https://mastodon.social/@Karlitschek/107249292634641642 #de #germany #selfhosting #privacy [10:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Frank Karlitschek: "Hard to belive but Nextcloud is the most popular " - Mastodon [10:05] techrights-news #RSS is Wonderful https://floss.social/@alcinnz/107248872510289958 [10:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Adrian Cochrane: "RSS is Wonderful - Brandon Quakkelaar: https://qu" - FLOSS.social [10:07] techrights-news #HP gives us, the #gnu #linux community, more reasons to hate it, putting aside how awful their #hardware became. HP now colludes with #microsoft in its attack on GNU/Linux, just like it did in Munich. I'm almost ready to say #boycottHP http://techrights.org/2021/07/02/hp-censorship/ [10:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | HP Products Are Faulty and They Try to Censor Evidence of the Defects | Techrights [10:08] techrights-news Let's just say it again, loud and clear: #WSL and #WSL2 ARE NOT "LINUX" BUT AN ATTACK ON GNU/LINUX. It's almost always promoted by WINDOWS LOVERS in MICROSOFT'S POCKET. [10:08] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [10:09] techrights-news "Someone tell Tim [Crook] the only way out of this is to admit their mistake, apologise, and commit to keeping their noses out of peoples devices." https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/107246927101834169 #apple [10:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "PS. Someone tell Tim the only way out of this is " - Arals Mastodon [10:10] techrights-news "remote employees, with screenshots, real-time screen access, or even cameras in their houses. This feels to me like a very American thing. I haven't heard of a single manager in Sweden even suggesting that they'd *want* to do this." https://floss.social/@tinyrabbit/107246107885332680 [10:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tinyrabbit: "I keep reading about how managers want to surveil" - FLOSS.social [10:10] techrights-news Two weeks ago: EPO Home-Working (or Remote Working or 'Teleworking) Isn't an Act of Generosity But of Exploitation Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/10/28/working-from-home-as-exploitation/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/28/working-from-home-as-exploitation/ [10:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Home-Working (or Remote Working or Teleworking) Isnt an Act of Generosity But of Exploitation | Techrights [10:11] techrights-news Last week: #EPO Management Will Exploit the #Pandemic to Crush #Patent Examiners Like It Crushed the Rule of Law (and Judges) Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/11/02/epo-and-the-invisible-enemy/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/02/epo-and-the-invisible-enemy/ [10:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Management Will Exploit the Pandemic to Crush Patent Examiners Like It Crushed the Rule of Law (and Judges) | Techrights [10:12] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:13] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #hk #HongKong Government Now Directly Censoring Films In Hopes Of Shutting Down Protest-Related Documentaries https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211106/11133447885/hong-kong-government-now-directly-censoring-films-hopes-shutting-down-protest-related-documentaries.shtml [10:13] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211106/11133447885/hong-kong-government-now-directly-censoring-films-hopes-shutting-down-protest-related-documentaries.shtml [10:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hong Kong Government Now Directly Censoring Films In Hopes Of Shutting Down Protest-Related Documentaries | Techdirt [10:13] techrights-news "If you are not reviewing your third party dependencies then you are responsible when code like this hacks your users." https://mastodon.social/@lrvick/107220444513832268 [10:13] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [10:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Lance R. Vick: "If you are not reviewing your third party depende" - Mastodon [10:18] techrights-news Why #rustlang made it into #linux #kernel http://techrights.org/2021/10/03/monopolistic-linus/ [10:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linus Torvalds is Not in Charge Anymore, All Important Decisions Are Made by Monopolistic Corporations | Techrights [10:22] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [10:24] techrights-news Officials lie, data lies less. Sad to say this, but October 2020 (before vaccination) and October 2021 (after vaccination) show similar number of #covid19 -linked hospitalisations https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom [10:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom ) [10:26] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [10:28] techrights-news Raw data: October 2020 (before vaccination) and October 2021 (after vaccination) show similar number of #covid19 patients in #hospital beds. This helps dispute the claims about recovery rates/speed https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom [10:31] techrights-news The way I interpret this data, in October 2020 (before vaccination) and October 2021 (after vaccination) similar number of people got hospitalised due to #covid19 and they stayed in hospital for just about the same length of time. So says the data: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare?areaType=overview&areaName=United Kingdom [10:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare?areaType=overview&areaName=United ) [10:32] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [10:33] techrights-news At the moment, the only vaccine boosters that I see are boosters in the media perpetuating false and baseless optimism to sell more #patent licences for vaccine giants which privatised publicly-funded (taxpayers) work [10:36] techrights-news #borisnaro : everything is OK!! Keep shopping!! Go to football... we don't want to embarrass the Saudi head choppers who just paid a lot of money for an English #football club... our economy depends on misogynists who put journalists in ovens [10:37] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [10:42] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [10:47] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [10:47] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [10:55] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [10:56] Techrights-sec https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/11/09/2329981/0/en/HP-Powers-Real-Time-Collaboration-and-Co-Creation [10:56] Techrights-sec -for-High-Performance-Workflows.html [10:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/11/09/2329981/0/en/HP-Powers-Real-Time-Collaboration-and-Co-Creation ) [10:56] Techrights-sec THat? It is probably some excuse for M$ to give money to HP to block GNU/Linux [10:56] Techrights-sec https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=HP-Workstations-WSL2-Preload [10:56] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=HP-Workstations-WSL2-Preload [10:56] Techrights-sec Cleary a maneuver by M$ to block GNU/Linux at the manager level. Managers [10:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-HP To Begin Pre-Loading WSL2 For Windows On Upcoming HP Workstations - Phoronix [10:56] Techrights-sec are the target market for WSL and if it is ever to begin to gain traction, [10:56] Techrights-sec it will only be because the managers have imposed WSL like they have done [10:56] Techrights-sec before will all the other garbage, like Citrix etc. [10:56] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@j33ea95yssa9i.irc) has joined #techrights [10:58] DaemonFC Apparently, there's also a hack for Firefox browsers from Flatpak that forces them to stop trying to use bitmap fonts. [10:58] DaemonFC It involves dropping a small XML file into your profile folder. [10:59] DaemonFC It's so wonderful that they leave ths unfixed for 4 years now while they patch the browser to "Don't say black!". ● Nov 10 [11:00] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [11:00] Techrights-sec If done carefully, yes. But managers love all things M$ no matter how [11:00] Techrights-sec unfit for the tasks the may be. One approach might be to not name WSL [11:00] Techrights-sec but to find out about the money HP is obviously receiving from M$ and what [11:00] Techrights-sec concessions and strings it entails. Based on all past behavior, it is easy [11:00] Techrights-sec to guess with high certainty that the goal is to block GNU/Linux pre-installed [11:00] Techrights-sec machines. Note that you cannot wisely quote any of the above because WSL is mentioned in many sentence and omitting [11:00] Techrights-sec it will cause the sentences not to make [11:00] Techrights-sec sense. [11:00] DaemonFC As if that's a dirty word or something. If George Carlin was alive today, he'd have to add it. Even though there's nothing wrong with the word. [11:01] DaemonFC schestowitz, LaraBULL sad it was refreshing to see WSL2 intead of the usual vendor crap included with a Windows PC. [11:01] DaemonFC Which I took to mean, it's unusual to see WSL, which is vendor crap. [11:02] DaemonFC B-) [11:02] DaemonFC "High performance" emulator. Only 80% as fast as Windows, which itself is about 80% the speed of "Linux". [11:03] DaemonFC Very high performance. You put them together and you only lose a little under half your workload's speed. [11:03] techrights-news #Samba 4.15.2, 4.14.10, 4.13.14 security releases available Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157761 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Samba 4.15.2, 4.14.10, 4.13.14 security releases available | Tux Machines [11:04] DaemonFC It's hardly even possible to tell what's real anymore. Thanks to big corporations and their employees and "influencers" on the Web. [11:04] DaemonFC Sockpuppets and shills. [11:04] techrights-news Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Microsoft Publisher Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157762 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Microsoft Publisher | Tux Machines [11:04] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157763 #Linux #TuxMachines [11:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [11:05] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [11:07] DaemonFC schestowitz, Mozilla avoids fixing trivial (to repair) bugs and switching on features that have worked fine for a year or two on "Linux". [11:07] DaemonFC Wayland/WebRender both work better than XWayland and XRENDER compositing for a while now, [11:08] DaemonFC They're never this hesitant to switch over to a new feature on Windows by default. [11:08] DaemonFC Even when Windows 7 was just out, they started depending on Direct2D and DirectWrite immediately. [11:09] DaemonFC They said "If you use Vista, you need to instal the platform update right now.". [11:09] DaemonFC A bunch more crap just to keep your browser working. [11:09] DaemonFC Then they cut Vista off, even with the Platform Update, even though it wasn't much different than the APIs available on Windows 7 at that point. [11:10] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [11:10] schestowitz-TR https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1289861-hp-to-begin-pre-loading-wsl2-for-win [11:10] schestowitz-TR ""if microsoft really <3 linux like they claim, then why don't they contribute to wine?"" [11:11] DaemonFC ""if microsoft really <3 linux like they claim, then why don't they contribute to wine?"" [11:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | HP To Begin Pre-Loading WSL2 For Windows On Upcoming HP Workstations - Phoronix Forums [11:11] DaemonFC They have it rigged up so they detect Wine and flag it as "non-Genuine Windows". [11:12] DaemonFC Which is basically their way of claiming that they view Wine users as software pirates, without acknowledging that it exists. [11:13] DaemonFC If Google ultimately loses that Java case they bungled their way into, then Wine is in danger. [11:14] DaemonFC I would say Mono too, except that Microsoft can't sue themselves. ;) They can sue you for using it, since the MIT license has no patent rights. [11:14] DaemonFC If they didn't plan to sue, they would relicense it Apache 2 or something so it was very clearly safe. [11:15] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [11:15] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, The old Mono desktop software that all became abandoned when Novell went under is rumbling back to life. [11:15] DaemonFC Who sponsors this? [11:16] schestowitz-TR [11:04] It's hardly even possible to tell what's real anymore. Thanks to big corporations and their employees and "influencers" on the Web. [11:16] schestowitz-TR true [11:16] schestowitz-TR [11:02] "High performance" emulator. Only 80% as fast as Windows, which itself is about 80% the speed of "Linux". [11:16] schestowitz-TR exactly [11:17] DaemonFC I liked Paint .NET's reaction to Pinta. [11:17] DaemonFC "Oh, when I licensed that code under the MIT license, I didn't mean you could USE it! I just meant you could VIEW it!" [11:17] DaemonFC *changes license* [11:18] Techrights-sec Similar to AARD then. [11:18] Techrights-sec Yep, the goal is to give them a bad taste of Linux. Just like it was with [11:18] Techrights-sec Citrix and the other crap. [11:18] Techrights-sec They had some broken VM that didn't really work with Windows and certainly [11:18] Techrights-sec did not work with anything else, yet its existence prevented use of [11:18] Techrights-sec VirtualBox or Qemu or, most of all, bare metal. [11:18] DaemonFC You can already decompile it and view the code that way. .NET leaves your source code exposed. [11:19] DaemonFC Once people have something that looks very similar to the original code, they can write new code that accomplishes the same thing and you can't necessarily prove it's based on yours. [11:19] Techrights-sec https://www.geoffchappell.com/notes/windows/archive/aard/drdos/index.htm [11:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geoffchappell.com | The AARD Code and DR DOS [11:20] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [11:20] DaemonFC Plug the hole. Just start distributing Windows and DOS together. [11:20] DaemonFC Then nobody even goes looking for another DOS to run Windows on. [11:22] DaemonFC https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/end-support-windows-xp-and-vista [11:22] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/end-support-windows-xp-and-vista [11:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.mozilla.org | Firefox has ended support for Windows XP and Vista | Firefox Help [11:22] DaemonFC "Will switching to a different browser keep me protected? [11:22] DaemonFC Unfortunately not. Most browsers (such as Google Chrome and Microsoft Internet Explorer) have already ended support for Windows XP and Windows Vista." [11:22] DaemonFC Rule #1: Don't talk about Firefox forks which _still_ run on Windows XP and Vista, even now! [11:23] DaemonFC Mozilla keeps security holes dark on BugZilla way longer than necessary to give updates time to go out. [11:24] DaemonFC This helps keep K-Meleon, Pale Moon, New Moon, and even SeaMonkey developers in the dark. [11:24] DaemonFC There's a growing rift between Mozilla and the SeaMonkey Council. [11:24] DaemonFC They admit (on a Mozilla Wiki even) that Firefox isn't really "open". [11:25] DaemonFC "We don't accept patches." "Reveals the attitude that some developers [of Firefox] have." [11:25] schestowitz-TR it's not free [11:25] schestowitz-TR open web is no longer a goal, either [11:26] DaemonFC I don't believe SeaMonkey has Widevine. [11:26] DaemonFC It didn't last time I checked. [11:26] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Debian threw SeaMonkey out. [11:26] DaemonFC Even though there's no good reason to....Without explanation. [11:26] schestowitz-TR they don't include gemini clients either [11:27] schestowitz-TR though they're simple and fast to build [11:27] DaemonFC They point to some Apt repo called "UbuntuZilla" on SourceForge. [11:27] DaemonFC Is this even safe? [11:28] schestowitz-TR it is all relative? [11:28] schestowitz-TR Is Firefox(R) safe? [11:28] schestowitz-TR Firefox ESR is likely safer [11:28] DaemonFC Debian is leaving unsupported versions of Firefox in their repo now. [11:28] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [11:28] DaemonFC There's a whole list of problems with moving ESR 91 into Stable. [11:28] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:28] *activelow (~activelow@4wr2j48cc8cmq.irc) has joined #techrights [11:28] DaemonFC The list hasn't gotten smaller. [11:29] DaemonFC The package maintainer admits that he has no idea what to do about getting all this new rust stuff to build. [11:29] schestowitz-TR installl snap!! [11:29] schestowitz-TR Ubuntu: yes, please! [11:29] schestowitz-TR Get official malware from Mozilla [11:30] DaemonFC 6 security issues in bullseye high [11:30] DaemonFC There are 6 open security issues in bullseye. [11:30] DaemonFC 6 important issues: [11:30] DaemonFC CVE-2021-38503: [11:30] DaemonFC CVE-2021-38504: [11:30] DaemonFC CVE-2021-38506: [11:30] DaemonFC CVE-2021-38507: [11:30] DaemonFC CVE-2021-38508: [11:30] DaemonFC CVE-2021-38509: [11:31] DaemonFC Standards version of the package is outdated. high [11:31] DaemonFC The package is severely out of date with respect to the Debian Policy. The package should be updated to follow the last version of Debian Policy (Standards-Version 4.6.0 instead of 3.9.8.0). [11:32] DaemonFC testing migrations [11:32] DaemonFC excuses: [11:32] DaemonFC Migrates after: rustc [11:32] DaemonFC Migration status for firefox-esr (78.14.0esr-1 to 91.3.0esr-1): BLOCKED: Rejected/violates migration policy/introduces a regression [11:32] DaemonFC Issues preventing migration: [11:32] DaemonFC Updating firefox-esr introduces new bugs: #998679 [11:32] DaemonFC missing build on armhf [11:32] DaemonFC missing build on i386 [11:32] DaemonFC missing build on mipsel [11:32] DaemonFC arch:armhf not built yet, autopkgtest delayed there [11:32] DaemonFC arch:i386 not built yet, autopkgtest delayed there [11:32] DaemonFC autopkgtest for libreoffice/blacklisted: arm64: Ignored failure, ppc64el: Ignored failure [11:32] DaemonFC Build-Depends(-Arch): firefox-esr rustc [11:32] DaemonFC Additional info: [11:32] DaemonFC Piuparts tested OK - https://piuparts.debian.org/sid/source/f/firefox-esr.html [11:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-piuparts.debian.org | Status of source package firefox-esr in sid [11:32] DaemonFC 7 days old (needed 5 days) [11:32] DaemonFC Not considered [11:33] DaemonFC https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=998679 [11:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.debian.org | #998679 - firefox-esr freezes shortly after start - Debian Bug report logs [11:33] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [11:33] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, ^ [11:33] DaemonFC Obviously this works fine and should continue to be their default browser. [11:33] DaemonFC :) [11:34] schestowitz-TR maybe time to bring back the (ice) weasel [11:34] DaemonFC "Firefox-ESR 91.3 doesn't use OpenGL GLX anymore. Instead it uses EGL by [11:34] DaemonFC default. [11:34] DaemonFC EGL requires at least mesa version 21.x. [11:34] DaemonFC Debian stable (bullseye) ships with mesa version 20.3.5" [11:34] DaemonFC --- [11:35] schestowitz-TR shiny new things! [11:35] schestowitz-TR yay! [11:35] schestowitz-TR like cargo cult rust [11:35] DaemonFC This doesn't affect the Flatpak because Flatpaks can use a newer build of Mesa than what's on the system. [11:35] schestowitz-TR pulseaudio [11:35] schestowitz-TR soon firefox will refuse to work with non-systemd systems... maybe [11:35] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Now using Firefox ESR is untenable in Debian. [11:36] DaemonFC Barely a month and a half into a new release, things in Debian are too old for the current build of Firefox ESR. [11:36] schestowitz-TR some days ago I saw news about FF91 ESR [11:36] schestowitz-TR and thunderbird also [11:36] schestowitz-TR checked debian 10 [11:36] schestowitz-TR no updates available [11:37] DaemonFC Going back to GLX is not really a solution. [11:38] DaemonFC That option won't exist in the next ESR after 91. [11:38] DaemonFC This would just be kicking the can. [11:38] DaemonFC Also, if the user tries to enable Wayland, they would not know what was wrong. [11:38] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [11:38] schestowitz-TR I have a sem-solution [11:38] schestowitz-TR *semi [11:38] schestowitz-TR only use FF for stubborn sites that need it [11:38] schestowitz-TR and sites you trust [11:39] schestowitz-TR use another browser, such as Falkon, the rest of the time [11:39] schestowitz-TR tbh, I doubt Falkon keeps up with patches either [11:39] schestowitz-TR the www is shit [11:39] schestowitz-TR falkon is still chromium-like [11:39] DaemonFC You almost have to use the Flatpak at this point. [11:39] schestowitz-TR so the www itself is the cancer [11:39] DaemonFC The one in Debian is accumulating CVEs while they're over there with their thumb up their ass. [11:39] DaemonFC Wondering what to do now that they're painted into a corner. [11:40] DaemonFC Logging into your bank is not safe with ESR 78. [11:40] *rMdes has quit (Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.github.io) [11:40] techrights-news #mozilla has made #firefox untenable again for #debian .. and not just for legal (TM) issues but technical [11:40] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: why? [11:40] schestowitz-TR which CVE? [11:41] schestowitz-TR if you know it's your bank, it's safe [11:41] schestowitz-TR if you surf at random, maybe not [11:41] DaemonFC https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2021-50/#CVE-2021-38503 [11:41] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2021-50/#CVE-2021-38503 [11:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mozilla.org | Security Vulnerabilities fixed in Thunderbird 91.3 Mozilla [11:41] DaemonFC CVE-2021-38503: iframe sandbox rules did not apply to XSLT stylesheets [11:42] DaemonFC Banks load a lot of other stuff in an iframe. Is it all from a trusted source? [11:42] schestowitz-TR yes [11:42] schestowitz-TR typically credit check stuff [11:42] schestowitz-TR like, "enter your PIN here" [11:42] *m___ (~Adium@sskwereip3e42.irc) has joined #techrights [11:42] DaemonFC "CVE-2021-38505: Windows 10 Cloud Clipboard may have recorded sensitive user data" [11:42] DaemonFC LOL [11:42] DaemonFC Windows 10 only. Irrelevant. [11:43] schestowitz-TR But Double YOU ASS AL! [11:43] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [11:44] DaemonFC I think FAILfox is going for a new record. [11:44] DaemonFC As to how many consecutive releases have a serious CVE or two that only affects Windows. [11:45] schestowitz-TR Firefox <3 Windows [11:46] DaemonFC Yes, the fix is always to do something to try to specifically block that attack from working since they can't fix Windows and Microsoft is off adding 10x as many bugs as they fix. [11:46] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:48] DaemonFC "The Opportunistic Encryption feature of HTTP2 (RFC 8164) allows a connection to be transparently upgraded to TLS while retaining the visual properties of an HTTP connection, including being same-origin with unencrypted connections on port 80. However, if a second encrypted port on the same IP address (e.g. port 8443) did not opt-in to opportunistic encryption; a network attacker could forward a connection from the browser to port 443 to port [11:48] DaemonFC 8443, causing the browser to treat the content of port 8443 as same-origin with HTTP. This was resolved by disabling the Opportunistic Encryption feature, which had low usage." [11:48] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [11:49] DaemonFC Good old Microsoft. Naming their products after sex kinks. Telling people open source is a bunch of perverts. [11:49] DaemonFC Microsoft HTTP + S&M [11:49] *alextee (~alextee@bqaiucian72fn.irc) has joined #techrights [11:49] schestowitz-TR yes, I noted this hypocrisy before [11:49] schestowitz-TR iirc, you were banned for mentioning Microsoft's sexism [11:50] schestowitz-TR like putting "big boobs" inside Linux, the kernel [11:50] DaemonFC A use-after-free could have occured when an HTTP2 session object was released on a different thread, leading to memory corruption and a potentially exploitable crash. [11:51] DaemonFC (No effect on Goanna. Single process mode.) [11:52] DaemonFC Firefox is springing more leaks now years into the "rust" nonsense than it ever was before. [11:52] techrights-news #uk #homeoffice uses AMERICAN couriers for OFFICIAL documents. If that's not perverse, I don't know what is.... [11:52] DaemonFC Bad standards and bad code and GitHub kiddies have really taken their toll. [11:53] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: stop being a BIGOT!! [11:53] schestowitz-TR Rust has FEELINGS [11:53] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [11:53] schestowitz-TR You are HARASSING Rust [11:53] DaemonFC mjg59 hated that. mjg59 is going back to Sanctuary Hills. [11:53] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: I will also report you for STALKING firefox [11:54] schestowitz-TR that's a crime in some states [11:54] DaemonFC mjg59 is ordering another cold DoorDash pizza. [11:54] schestowitz-TR Mozilla is not a corporation [11:54] schestowitz-TR Mozilla is people [11:57] DaemonFC "The executable file warning was not presented when downloading .inetloc files, which, due to a flaw in Mac OS, can run commands on a user's computer." [11:57] DaemonFC :D [11:57] DaemonFC Another carpetbombing issue on the oh-so-secure Mac OS. [11:58] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Is it acceptable to offend Mac OS or does it too have a gender identity issue per mjg59? [11:58] techrights-news Transfer files between your phone and Linux with this open source tool | https://opensource.com/article/21/11/transfer-files-phone-linux #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux [11:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Transfer files between your phone and Linux with this open source tool | Opensource.com [11:58] DaemonFC Also, I think calling it Mac OS, like Mozilla did, is a microaggression, when Apple restyled it macOS. [11:59] techrights-news How Knative unleashes the power of serverless | https://opensource.com/article/21/11/knative-serving-serverless #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux http://techrights.org/2019/07/13/buzzwords-confronted/ [11:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How Knative unleashes the power of serverless | Opensource.com [11:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Theres No Such Thing as Cloud Computing, Serverless and All That Other Nonsense | Techrights ● Nov 10 [12:00] DaemonFC "Due to an unusual sequence of attacker-controlled events" [12:00] DaemonFC Lemony Snicket's: An unfortunate series of attacker-controlled events. [12:01] techrights-news Fedora Linux 35 is now available at Vexxhost http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157458#comment-31733 [12:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Linux 35 Released with GNOME 41, Fedora Kinoite Flavor, and WirePlumber | Tux Machines [12:02] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [12:05] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Firefox is apparently so bad that it's accumulated over 10 years of packaging exceptions to the Debian packaging rules. [12:06] schestowitz-TR and it fired coders [12:06] schestowitz-TR fire 100 coders [12:07] schestowitz-TR save 3 million dollars [12:07] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [12:07] DaemonFC Less than the cost of one CEO. [12:07] schestowitz-TR ;) [12:07] schestowitz-TR i said it when she sacked 75 [12:07] schestowitz-TR in 2019 iirc [12:07] schestowitz-TR before thr media wsa onto he salary [12:08] DaemonFC People on Reddit were trying to excuse this. [12:08] DaemonFC "Oh they were working on Rust and Servo." [12:08] DaemonFC Oh, you mean those things that Firefox was drawing dependencies and features from? [12:08] DaemonFC So that now they have no R&D pipeline? [12:08] DaemonFC That's the first step in a company collapsing. [12:09] DaemonFC 4 years prior to RCA/Thomson closing the doors and firing several hundred factory floor workers in Marion, Indiana in 2004.... [12:09] DaemonFC They laid off the engineering department and said to the others "Don't worry about that.". [12:10] DaemonFC Yes, you have 48 entire months before there are no products to build and it's all some Chinese televisions at Walmart. [12:10] DaemonFC Don't worry about it! [12:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [12:10] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 29.03 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 7.00 swarm size (avg): 261.34 [12:11] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/qq94ah/firefox_is_the_45_result_when_searching_for/ [12:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Firefox is the 45. result when searching for firefox on Windows Store : firefox [12:11] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Meanwhile, this is STILL what happens if you look for Firefox in the Windows store. [12:11] DaemonFC It's after 44 fake apps, some of which cost money. [12:12] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [12:14] schestowitz-TR AFAIK, Microsoft gets commissions [12:15] schestowitz-TR but not from real Firefox [12:15] schestowitz-TR there is an incentive to push fakes [12:15] schestowitz-TR like fake LibreOffice [12:16] DaemonFC https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1731825 [12:16] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1731825 [12:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.mozilla.org | 1731825 - Add an intervention to auto-hide mailto handler prompts on Office365 [12:16] DaemonFC https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1707795 [12:16] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1707795 [12:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.mozilla.org | 1707795 - Add Site intervention for live.com for excel sheets to remove the overscroll-behavior [12:17] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [12:17] DaemonFC Meanwhile, Microsoft continues to add bugs to their websites that target Gecko. [12:17] DaemonFC Mozilla quietly hides the bugs. [12:17] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Yes, which is also a security issue. [12:18] DaemonFC You have no idea who is really building that fake and out of date copy of LibreOffice or what the hell they've put in it. [12:18] DaemonFC mjg59 loves that. mjg59 goes on to talk about Secure Boot. [12:19] DaemonFC The real LibreOffice people have contacted Microsoft repeatedly with these concerns. No response. [12:22] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [12:22] DaemonFC Thomas Wisniewski [:twisniewski] [12:22] DaemonFC Assignee [12:22] DaemonFC Description 2 months ago [12:22] DaemonFC As discussed in bug 1709653, Office365 currently queries the user on whether it ought to handle email in Firefox on every navigation, regardless of whether the user has already dismissed the prompt. After some discussion, we would like to add a site intervention so that prompt only shows once, until we properly resolve bug 668577. [12:22] DaemonFC This should be possible by adding a JS intervention which wraps around navigator.registerProtocolHandler. It will check if a cookie (of our own devising) named something like mailProtocolHandlerAlreadyOffered has been set. If it has, the call will be ignored. If it has not, the cookie will be set, and the call to registerProtocolHandler will be permitted. [12:22] DaemonFC This should give users a relatively easy way to see the prompt again, while keeping the intervention as simple as possible. [12:22] schestowitz-TR security issues per se are not CVEs [12:22] DaemonFC DO YOU WANT OFFICE365 TO HANDLE YOUR EMAIL? NO [12:22] DaemonFC DO YOU WANT OFFICE365 TO HANDLE YOUR EMAIL? NO [12:22] DaemonFC DO YOU WANT OFFICE365 TO HANDLE YOUR EMAIL? NO [12:22] DaemonFC LOL [12:22] schestowitz-TR security issues are proprietary software (secrecy for holes) [12:22] DaemonFC Mozilla adds an "intervention". [12:22] schestowitz-TR security issues are cooperation with spy agency [12:23] schestowitz-TR like Microsoft with NSA [12:23] schestowitz-TR CVEs are a subset of many issues [12:23] schestowitz-TR losers of "Fake security" focus only on what pays salaries [12:23] schestowitz-TR like reporting CVEs [12:23] schestowitz-TR but their salaries come from companies sponsored by the military [12:23] schestowitz-TR through contracts and bailouts/"stimulus" [12:23] schestowitz-TR their real objective is domination [12:23] schestowitz-TR not security [12:24] schestowitz-TR state A controls all the machines [12:24] schestowitz-TR states B-Z do not [12:24] DaemonFC Yes, I never request a CVE. [12:24] schestowitz-TR except spying partners like Six Eyes (Japan added, maybe India soon) [12:24] DaemonFC I just report a bug and it gets fixed. [12:24] DaemonFC CVEs are ridiculous and only a tiny fraction of the picture. [12:24] DaemonFC Microsoft obviously doesn't report CVEs about their own products when they don't have to. [12:25] schestowitz-TR they admitted this [12:25] schestowitz-TR that they don't report many bugs [12:25] schestowitz-TR they silently patch [12:25] DaemonFC For a while there, it was Tavis Ormandy at Google that kept filing very amusing CVEs about Windows. [12:25] schestowitz-TR I wrote about it in 2009, IIRC [12:26] DaemonFC Like the NTVDM bug that was in all versions of Windows NT ever released. [12:26] DaemonFC Or the "sandbox" in Windows Defender that could execute malicious code that was aware of and anticipating this, which would break out immediately. [12:27] DaemonFC It goes to scan the file and load it in a behavioral detection engine, and that's what CAUSES the breach. [12:27] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [12:27] DaemonFC It's not necessary to actually run a malicious program to perform heuristics. [12:28] DaemonFC Dependency Walker can show you generally what it will try to do. [12:28] DaemonFC So what's with the "sandbox" nonsense and actually executing arbitrary code, deliberately? [12:30] DaemonFC It seems like Windows Defender is there to be a patsy, waiting in the wings. [12:30] DaemonFC In case the government wants to put a malware dropper on your PC and know it will be executed. [12:30] DaemonFC I can't think of any legitimate reasons it acts the way it does. [12:31] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [12:31] *m___ (~Adium@sskwereip3e42.irc) has joined #techrights [12:31] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [12:31] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, GIANT Spyware. ;) [12:32] schestowitz-TR nowadays most things are [12:32] schestowitz-TR ALL the CRapps for sure [12:32] schestowitz-TR because of the system they are attached to [12:33] DaemonFC Well, installing malware used to be more difficult, actually. [12:33] DaemonFC Before all of this pseudo-security nonsense on Windows. [12:33] schestowitz-TR it's woprse [12:33] schestowitz-TR the state does [12:33] schestowitz-TR the corporations do [12:33] schestowitz-TR even family [12:33] schestowitz-TR bosses [12:33] schestowitz-TR you can install malware on a device of loved ones [12:33] schestowitz-TR the "stores" are OK with it [12:33] schestowitz-TR after all [12:33] schestowitz-TR denying it would be hypocritical [12:34] schestowitz-TR those companies do the ssame [12:34] schestowitz-TR for their financial use and for government [12:34] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Worked very well for Josh Duggar's wife. [12:34] schestowitz-TR You could have a Little John in your Pocket [12:34] schestowitz-TR enabling your microphone and taking temporature readings [12:34] DaemonFC She was going to fix her child molesting husband for the cost of a program called Covenant Eyes. [12:35] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, This program "Malcontent" in GNOME is so ridiculous. [12:35] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [12:35] DaemonFC It offers to let the administrator block GNOME Boxes. [12:35] schestowitz-TR maybe for kids [12:35] DaemonFC It is. [12:35] schestowitz-TR maybe for RedHat(TM) to tick some boxes [12:36] DaemonFC Reboot the computer in Tails. [12:36] schestowitz-TR like the "protecting children" box [12:36] DaemonFC Probably. [12:36] schestowitz-TR then apply for some "social responsibility award" [12:36] DaemonFC It has Rat Crap written all over it. [12:36] schestowitz-TR corporate reponsibility is another term [12:36] DaemonFC Hard dependency of Flatpak. [12:36] DaemonFC Debian "depends" on it with GNOME. [12:36] schestowitz-TR yeah [12:36] schestowitz-TR debian=IBM [12:36] schestowitz-TR because gnome=IBM [12:36] schestowitz-TR and they swallow a lot of it [12:37] schestowitz-TR KDE is still less tainted [12:37] schestowitz-TR you cannot point out to SFC that GNOME is IBM et al [12:37] schestowitz-TR because... money [12:37] schestowitz-TR zoobab was threatened with ban in IRC [12:37] schestowitz-TR for bringing that up [12:37] psydruid Are there any KDE/Qt applications that are truly standout? [12:37] schestowitz-TR SFC knows where the money is [12:38] DaemonFC Are there any KDE/Qt applications that are truly standout? [12:38] DaemonFC Krita and VLC for sure. [12:38] DaemonFC Almost everyone ends up using those. [12:38] schestowitz-TR I use audacious at the moment [12:38] schestowitz-TR this one uses GTK I think [12:38] schestowitz-TR but it has since then been ported to qt [12:38] DaemonFC Calligra Office is fine if you don't want a bloated corporate-style office suite hogging up your disk and don't need to save MS Office files. [12:38] schestowitz-TR which becomes proporietary after 5.something [12:39] DaemonFC It can import them though. [12:39] psydruid I am asking because the best of them could be ported or rewritten using another toolkit in case Qt went under [12:39] schestowitz-TR psydruid: there are Qt soft forks [12:39] schestowitz-TR so you can use those [12:39] DaemonFC lxde is maintained safely away from Qt. [12:40] DaemonFC Abandoned "upstream", so Arch community maintains it, like what happened with MATE. [12:40] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [12:40] DaemonFC Nothing anywhere near so horrible as what's going on in Qt is happening to GTK. [12:41] DaemonFC "We're patching Qt.....but only for paying customers....we're toying around with releasing our patches a year later." -The Qt Company "We have to do this because of COVID-19." "No, of course it won't lead to forks and fragmentation and harm Qt and eventually our business more than it's worth." [12:41] schestowitz-TR wait [12:42] schestowitz-TR that predates covid-19 [12:42] schestowitz-TR don't mix that in [12:42] schestowitz-TR it's revisionism [12:42] DaemonFC They added that part later. [12:42] schestowitz-TR they never blamed covid-19 [12:42] schestowitz-TR it happened in 2019 [12:42] schestowitz-TR where, DaemonFC [12:42] schestowitz-TR link [12:43] techrights-news Links x/11/2021: Release of #Samba 4.15.2, 4.14.10, 4.13.14; TDE Reviewed Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/11/10/tde-reviewed/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/10/tde-reviewed/ [12:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links x/11/2021: Release of Samba 4.15.2, 4.14.10, 4.13.14; TDE Reviewed | Techrights [12:44] techrights-news #IBM / #RedHat: Moving Away From CentOS and Some New Fluff Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157764 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat: Moving Away From CentOS and Some New Fluff | Tux Machines [12:44] DaemonFC I really should start saving these. [12:44] DaemonFC There was a link to that, from Reddit. [12:44] schestowitz-TR good [12:44] schestowitz-TR but I need to see it [12:44] schestowitz-TR otherwise I say wrong things [12:44] schestowitz-TR based on hearsay [12:44] schestowitz-TR and cannot prove it [12:44] DaemonFC That they needed to encourage more people to pay for support because of the COVID situation. [12:44] schestowitz-TR ask psydruid ;-) [12:45] schestowitz-TR whose humour I did not get [12:45] techrights-news #IBM/Red Hat: Moving Away From CentOS and Some New Fluff Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157764 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:45] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [12:45] DaemonFC GTK is at least under a Free license. [12:45] DaemonFC And I can't see that changing. [12:45] techrights-news Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157765 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [12:45] DaemonFC https://home.pearsonvue.com/qtcompany [12:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-home.pearsonvue.com | The QT Company :: Pearson VUE [12:46] techrights-news #Software and HowTos: Knative, qrcp, CLI Tools, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157766 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software and HowTos: Knative, qrcp, CLI Tools, and More | Tux Machines [12:46] DaemonFC Hires corrupt testing company to administer their certifications... [12:46] DaemonFC https://www.thedailybeast.com/ivy-league-grads-cant-pass-the-new-ged [12:46] -altlink_b2b/#techrights- Cloudflare: thedailybeast.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thedailybeast.com/ivy-league-grads-cant-pass-the-new-ged [12:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thedailybeast.com | Ivy League Grads Cant Pass the New GED [12:46] techrights-news Shows: #mintCast and #LINUXUnplugged Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157767 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shows: mintCast and LINUX Unplugged | Tux Machines [12:48] DaemonFC I took the test before Pearson got ahold of it, and started tweaking it to guarantee most people had to pay to retake parts of the test. [12:49] DaemonFC If this guy would have had to keep doing parts of it over and studying despite his position, what hope does an inner city kid who has been ordered by a judge "pass it or else" have? [12:50] schestowitz qt does ceriications? [12:50] schestowitz must be reasonably recent? [12:50] DaemonFC That's pretty much at the only point anyone does the GED. [12:50] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [12:50] DaemonFC Studies have shown that people with a GED don't earn more than high school graduates, or most dropouts. [12:50] schestowitz-TR experience counts [12:50] schestowitz-TR "show me some code" [12:50] DaemonFC The result in today's economy is largely the same. [12:50] schestowitz-TR "name some projects" [12:50] activelow isn't true [12:50] schestowitz-TR ""show where you worked and what on" [12:51] schestowitz-TR exams that aren't followed by practice lead to lost/forgotten skills [12:51] schestowitz-TR I used to be very good at GTK [12:51] schestowitz-TR around 2001-2 [12:51] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I've never seen a situation where the GED made a different over not having one. [12:51] DaemonFC It's something they say so people will pay to test. [12:51] schestowitz-TR I didn't use GTK after that [12:52] activelow GED ? [12:52] schestowitz-TR I knew the important APIs very well [12:52] DaemonFC I mean, unless you need to point at it to go to the military or college. [12:52] schestowitz-TR years later it was just a distant memory [12:52] DaemonFC Employers don't give a shit, and they don't trust the GED! [12:52] schestowitz-TR and GTK had new versions with new APIs anyway [12:52] DaemonFC They'll sit you down anyway, and make you take THEIR test, even if you have a GED. [12:52] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: they want to make money [12:52] schestowitz-TR or to net talented people [12:52] DaemonFC They go, "Oh we don't care about that.". [12:53] schestowitz-TR usually based on what they did prior... [12:53] schestowitz-TR exams are ways for people to compensate for lack of experience [12:53] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I remember, years ago.... [12:53] schestowitz-TR same with uni degrees that have exams [12:53] activelow what is GED ? [12:53] schestowitz-TR it's like a firestarter [12:53] DaemonFC To get a job at a Kroger distribution center.... [12:53] schestowitz-TR generalised exam something? [12:53] DaemonFC They made me take a math and literacy test. [12:54] DaemonFC Get on a scale. [12:54] DaemonFC Then of course, everyone's favorite, piss in a cup. [12:54] DaemonFC I'm surprised they didn't check my teeth. [12:54] schestowitz-TR jobs should not do exams in interviews [12:54] schestowitz-TR it's poor use of time [12:54] schestowitz-TR they should instead rely on existing records [12:54] DaemonFC I've got news for them regarding people who are overweight. [12:55] DaemonFC There's plenty of skinny people who stand around fucking off and stealing from the company. [12:55] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [12:55] schestowitz-TR maybe ill days [12:56] DaemonFC Whether you get a job or not depends on whether you had breakfast that morning before you got on the scale? [12:56] schestowitz-TR depends on the jab [12:58] schestowitz-TR job [12:58] schestowitz-TR heh, funny typo though [12:58] schestowitz-TR BTW, few jobs even ask about vaccination [12:58] schestowitz-TR either measles or covid-19 [12:58] schestowitz-TR yesterday my sister told me they barely bothered even saying "get vaccinated" [12:59] schestowitz-TR more like "be careful out there" but that was it.. [12:59] schestowitz-TR very hands-of... [12:59] schestowitz-TR *off [12:59] schestowitz-TR in my company the subject never even came up [12:59] schestowitz-TR some colleagues might say, "I got my first today..." [12:59] schestowitz-TR management never said a thing... ● Nov 10 [13:00] schestowitz-TR when one of us got covid (daniel) they hid that from us [13:00] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [13:00] schestowitz-TR they just said he was off ill [13:00] schestowitz-TR another colleague blurted out that it was covid because he got hospitalised [13:01] schestowitz-TR anyway, I never did an interview for this job [13:01] schestowitz-TR it was almost 11 years ago [13:01] schestowitz-TR it was just, "OK, let's get on jabber and get thunderbird configured for LDAP..." [13:01] schestowitz-TR the same afternoon I already started working, the paperwork came a week later [13:01] u-amarsh04 a bit different here (and I didn't technically get an interview for my job but did get a contract pre-COVID-19 that had requirements for several other vaccines) [13:01] schestowitz-TR the job prior to that was similar [13:02] schestowitz-TR go have a chat with the university professors and off you go, just deciding how many days a week to work and how many from home, how many from the office [13:02] schestowitz-TR paperwork comes later [13:02] *altlink_b2b has quit (connection closed) [13:02] schestowitz-TR u-amarsh04: maybe in 2021? [13:02] *altlink_702 (~altlink_702@2f7u5j6f87p9g.irc) has joined #techrights [13:03] u-amarsh04 future job contracts may require it [13:03] schestowitz-TR oh, you mean pre-2019 [13:03] schestowitz-TR if you had worked elsewhere before they can assume you're meeting some criteria [13:03] u-amarsh04 yes, my old and still current contract was from 2018 [13:03] schestowitz-TR u-amarsh04: maybe people facing [13:03] schestowitz-TR iirc, adelaide [13:04] u-amarsh04 yes, Adelaide (Royal Adelaide Hospital) [13:04] schestowitz-TR sometimes the clients themselves want the assurances [13:04] schestowitz-TR rather than colleagues [13:04] schestowitz-TR and hospital [13:04] schestowitz-TR so that makes sense [13:04] schestowitz-TR they have steeper standards [13:05] schestowitz-TR 103k NHS workers in England refuse to get the covid-19 jab [13:05] schestowitz-TR BillBC said so yesterday [13:05] schestowitz-TR according to them, NHS has 103k "unvaccinated" [sic] [13:05] schestowitz-TR whom I assure you got all the other vaccines one gets as a child [13:06] u-amarsh04 oof, that's high. Pfizer / AstraZenica / Moderna are on offer here [13:06] schestowitz-TR Australia has much resistance too [13:06] schestowitz-TR I've read people do big protests over it [13:06] u-amarsh04 yes, all the regulars, but did catch mumps, measles and chickenpox as a child as that was before the vaccines were available [13:06] schestowitz-TR yes, typical for this generation [13:06] schestowitz-TR chickenpox esp. [13:07] schestowitz-TR almost everyone my generation has some marks left [13:07] u-amarsh04 so I might have to get a shingles vaccination soon [13:07] schestowitz-TR a neighbour of ours got shingles [13:07] schestowitz-TR and a relative too [13:08] schestowitz-TR people focus on just one disease now, due to fatality rates [13:08] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [13:10] u-amarsh04 people take health for granted until they don't have it [13:11] activelow found it, "general education development" test. it is important to prepare for such tests, wouldn't take it myself without preparation for it. [13:11] techrights-news Only halfway today (1pm) and already 20k+ page requests over #techrights @ #geminiSpace ... maybe a new all-time record today? [13:12] schestowitz not just health, activelow [13:12] schestowitz *u-amarsh04 [13:12] schestowitz even food [13:12] schestowitz and basics like roof [13:13] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [13:13] u-amarsh04 yes, need to re-roof soon [13:13] schestowitz so in africa, for example, just having food in the kitchen can be a very BigDeal(R) [13:13] schestowitz sometimes they don't even have that [13:14] schestowitz u-amarsh04: same here [13:14] schestowitz leaks getting worse [13:14] techrights-news #Libya s cybercrime law: A threat to freedom of expression https://www.accessnow.org/libya-cybercrime-law-threat-to-freedom-of-expression/ #accessnow [13:14] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/libya-cybercrime-law-threat-to-freedom-of-expression/ [13:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Libyas cybercrime law: A threat to freedom of expression [13:15] techrights-news Human rights organizations call on Libyan authorities to rescind the new cybercrime law - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/human-rights-organizations-rescind-libya-cybercrime-law/ #accessnow #Libya #Africa [13:15] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/human-rights-organizations-rescind-libya-cybercrime-law/ [13:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Human rights organizations call on Libyan authorities to rescind the new cybercrime law - Access Now [13:16] techrights-news #ProprietarySoftware on #microsoft #windows with its notorious #nsa #backdoors https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/pun-free-cylance-vulnerability-fixed/ [13:16] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: pentestpartners.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/pun-free-cylance-vulnerability-fixed/ [13:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pentestpartners.com | Pun-free Cylance vulnerability, fixed | Pen Test Partners [13:17] DaemonFC https://news.itsfoss.com/firefox-continuous-decline/ [13:17] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: itsfoss.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.itsfoss.com/firefox-continuous-decline/ [13:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.itsfoss.com | Here's Why Firefox is Seeing a Continuous Decline for Last 12 Years - It's FOSS News [13:17] DaemonFC Removing settings wasnt enough. Firefox went on to neuter add-ons and themes, forcing centralised signing and ultimately deprecating XUL without adequate webextension apis to replace lost functionality. Complaining about this change I again spoke to one of the lead developers (same guy). His response was (exact quote) People dont use Firefox because of add-ons. Our telemetry shows 80% of users never install any add-ons [13:17] DaemonFC i.e. the telemetry that any tech savvy person immediately turns off because they dont want their browser spying on them and about which we have also complained numerous times. [13:17] techrights-news Good to see #LiamProven in #theRegister ... can he counter-blanace all the #microsoft operatives who entered this publication? [13:18] schestowitz-TR exactly, it's self-selecting [13:18] schestowitz-TR in the sense that people with a clue opt OUT [13:18] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [13:18] schestowitz-TR and then install things that work for them [13:18] schestowitz-TR not for Baker's Bank Account [13:19] schestowitz-TR rianne uses extensions in Firefox and had telemetry and other crap turned off [13:19] schestowitz-TR so mozilla bases its analysis on people who never did 'jackshit' for firefox [13:19] schestowitz-TR they just use it like drones [13:19] schestowitz-TR and never advocated its use or made any extensions for it [13:19] schestowitz-TR and won't report bugs, either [13:19] schestowitz-TR or offer translations [13:20] activelow firefox is a huge project, working on it easily turns into a full-time job [13:23] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [13:24] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.58 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.91 swarm size (avg): 261.34 [13:26] DaemonFC IBM is the only one working on the "Linux" port of Firefox. [13:27] DaemonFC If they hadn't been patching it up, it would have been stuck with XWayland, GLX, and XRENDER forever. [13:28] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [13:30] schestowitz-TR why doesn't mozilla do this work? [13:33] psydruid they are too busy fiddling with their Macs [13:33] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [13:33] schestowitz-TR and i things [13:35] DaemonFC The platform that doesn't even allow a real Firefox browser to run. [13:35] DaemonFC For years, they said they wouldn't port it while that policy was in place because it wouldn't really be Firefox on an iPhone. [13:36] DaemonFC Then they made something calling itself Firefox that uses stale Webkit APIs that time forgot. [13:40] DaemonFC IBM is designing the video driver APIs, the drivers themselves, the windowing system and compositor, and porting applications to use it all. [13:40] DaemonFC What existed before was amazingly worse, somehow. [13:41] DaemonFC I was joking with someone that I bought a Radeon card and I was waiting for XFree86 to support it as a framebuffer 3 years from now. [13:42] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [13:44] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/gov-pritzker-signs-covid-19-amendment-to-illinois-conscience-law/ [13:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Gov. Pritzker signs COVID-19 amendment to Illinois conscience law | WGN-TV [13:46] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [13:47] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/unvaccinated-20-times-more-likely-to-die-from-covid-19-texas-study/ [13:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Unvaccinated 20 times more likely to die from COVID-19: Texas study | WGN-TV [13:47] DaemonFC 13.7% of the deaths were fully vaccinated. [13:47] DaemonFC What happened to 5%? [13:47] DaemonFC It was 5% a few months ago according to the same sources. [13:48] DaemonFC So the unvaccinated deaths have almost tripled since the last report? [13:48] DaemonFC Err, vaccinated. (tired) [13:49] DaemonFC That would seem to indicated the vaccine is wearing off quickly and/or mutations that render it less effective are happening so swiftly that in the last 90 days, this many people have become unprotected from death to COVID. [13:49] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Mom's sick with something. [13:49] DaemonFC Going to work anyway. Tested for COVID every day since Saturday, negative. [13:52] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [13:56] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [13:57] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights ● Nov 10 [14:02] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [14:07] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [14:08] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21102836 [14:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5967007) [14:12] schestowitz-TR I've managed to record a 30-min video about the HP thing without mentioning WSL even once [14:15] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [14:20] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [14:24] activelow https://www.dw.com/en/google-eu-court-upholds-24-billion-antitrust-fine/a-59774536 [14:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google: EU court upholds 2.4 billion antitrust fine | News | DW | 10.11.2021 [14:25] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [14:29] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [14:32] schestowitz-TR now do microsoft [14:33] schestowitz-TR spiegel should call for it [14:34] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [14:38] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/slain [14:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Slain [14:39] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [14:41] schestowitz [13:47] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- wgntv.com | Unvaccinated 20 times more likely to die from COVID-19: Texas study | WGN-TV [14:41] schestowitz Old people 100 times more likely to die from COVID-19: common sense [14:41] schestowitz also: old people more likely to take some vaccine, ANY vaccine [14:42] schestowitz because they know they are vulnerable to many diseases and the flu too can kill them [14:42] schestowitz I bet the study does not say what this headline says [14:42] schestowitz Nowadays 'journalists' (paid hacks) take an actual study [14:42] schestowitz and turn it into a sound bite [14:42] schestowitz which they researchers themselves later bemoan [14:43] schestowitz I cannot find the actual study [14:43] schestowitz I can only see a headline [14:43] schestowitz " [14:43] schestowitz Our European visitors are important to us. [14:43] schestowitz This site is currently unavailable to visitors from the European Economic Area while we work to ensure your data is protected in accordance with applicable EU laws. [14:43] schestowitz " [14:43] schestowitz Thank you [14:43] schestowitz so you spy on my illegally [14:43] schestowitz in violation of GDPR [14:43] kingoffrance activelow, GED was basically in america if you drop out of high school, can take that test. but i literally went to some after school thing, could pass of classes in like a week or two, earning "credits". [14:43] schestowitz and could not be bothered to make the site adapt to people who click in the EU [14:44] schestowitz so you BLOCK THEM ALL [14:44] schestowitz and drop some headline at me, attributing the headline to "Texas study", which I cannot even open [14:44] kingoffrance "GED" my understanding is like last resort to earn equivalent of a dpiloma [14:44] kingoffrance *diploma [14:45] kingoffrance and i earned everything...but could not get diploma until "rest of class passes" (actually almost prevented me from getting a job) [14:45] Techrights-sec excellent. it should not be named or even circumnavigated just omitted and [14:45] Techrights-sec other topics focused on. [14:45] kingoffrance *rest of normal graduating time [14:46] schestowitz-TR good employers check track record [14:46] schestowitz-TR worse ones check exams [14:46] schestowitz-TR worst ones do exams on the spot [14:47] kingoffrance ^^^ if you have good test scores and leave, that affects funding [14:47] schestowitz-TR as if one hour if some 'standardised' tests will teach them something new [14:47] kingoffrance ^^^ [14:47] kingoffrance it affects funding [14:47] kingoffrance is why they are so hellbent on it [14:47] kingoffrance or did, but i cant imagine it has not moved more in that direction [14:47] schestowitz-TR you mean making them seem necessary? [14:47] schestowitz-TR the recruiters? [14:48] kingoffrance sorry, was talking about education [14:48] schestowitz-TR anyone, if the employer says "clown computing", walk away... [14:48] schestowitz-TR they're not tech companies [14:48] schestowitz-TR they might sooner or later also compel you to carry a 'phone' [14:48] kingoffrance yes, my employer was something like have to be 18 or have diploma [14:48] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [14:48] schestowitz-TR as a 'gift' from the company [14:48] kingoffrance so holding up my diploma i had to convince them to "waive" that rule [14:48] schestowitz-TR so it can bother you all day long and spy on you [14:48] kingoffrance and show i had earned it, just the district would not give it to me yet [14:49] activelow kingoffrance: in germany GED is recognised as undergraduate degree, which may or may not permit to visit a univeristy; instead a german diploma is an academic science/engineering degree earned with at least two years grammar school and 4 years university. [14:49] schestowitz-TR box-ticking exercise [14:49] kingoffrance ^^^ [14:49] schestowitz-TR companies should care about more than checklists [14:50] activelow angers me if anglo-americans grant themselves academic degrees without the education and efforts required elsewhere. [14:50] activelow similar trend in germany nowadays, to grant "diploma" degree for non-academic education, to serve "social justice". [14:51] kingoffrance well daemon seemed to say both "Ivy League Grads Cant Pass the New GED" link, AND employers still dont care, dont trust it anyways [14:51] kingoffrance that i would say is true too, some people consider it "lesser" [14:51] kingoffrance *some employers [14:51] activelow which is sad too, because those who seek to improve upon their education should benefit. [14:52] activelow anyway, they were de-valuating acadedmic scientific/engineering degrees. [14:53] activelow worst examples being those who earn theirs with "gender studies" and similar, and dictate publicity based on such intellect. [14:53] kingoffrance eh, i was just trying to say there are ways to get "credits" outside normal channels, withotu supposed "GED" but they wont tell people about that. when i was there, was very much "show up to class, on time, or no lecture for you" no lecture for you, no homework/assignment, you fail. not saying discipline is not needed, but they had to try to force ppl to show up with stuff like that. purposely withhold assignment until just as you leave [14:53] kingoffrance , etc. [14:53] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [14:53] kingoffrance point being: it wasnt about education, it was about getting you there [14:54] schestowitz-TR such is life [14:54] schestowitz-TR of all the things they teach in schools [14:54] schestowitz-TR 99% you will forget [14:54] schestowitz-TR and some of the stuff you USED to know will get you a job [14:54] kingoffrance in that sense, some of the "mastery" much as i dislike, was supposed to fix that having to "wait" even if you knew the material etc. [14:54] schestowitz-TR maybe 10% of it [14:54] schestowitz-TR and then you move on from there [14:55] kingoffrance if there was anything good about "mastery" it was the idea that you wouldnt get stuck in such a situation, work at your own pace [14:55] schestowitz-TR so you leave a residue of tone of unused "education" [14:55] kingoffrance whether it actually lives up to that is another story [14:55] schestowitz-TR for "school level" knowledge you cannot get a good job [14:55] schestowitz-TR not even as a teacher [14:55] schestowitz-TR teachers typically need a university degree and specialisation [14:56] kingoffrance now of course, if so much is being moved online, 180 in some ways [14:56] activelow thing is, regular practice is required. coded java for many years, but required a month to catch up with the pace, or to lecture it. [14:56] activelow same with C or databases, mathematics, all of this requires practice and preparation. [14:56] activelow which is, hard work. [14:58] kingoffrance an example for me was math. do i need to sit through lecture? maybe if i get stuck. generally i would work through books. is math some social skill where you need to participate? but the "you must attend" mindset is doesnt matter if you pass everything, do all the homework, ace the tests....you will get penalized for not sitting through lecture [14:58] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [14:58] kingoffrance so, the good classes, would have all homework/etc. already known ahead of time. you could attend lecture or not. the control people, would try to mandate you must attend, even if you got the material and passed the tests, etc. that is what i am getting at [14:59] kingoffrance i think it depends on subject of course, but that was kind of "social babysitting" and whether you knew the material or not, didnt matter ● Nov 10 [15:00] activelow for me lectures were helpful, i needed to handwrite formulas, to memorize. [15:00] kingoffrance different subjects you do want hands-on and perhaps group work [15:00] activelow problem i had during university lecture, was the chaotic schedule. [15:01] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [15:01] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:01] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/agi-2 [15:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - AGI [15:01] kingoffrance thats the irony i mean, i left high school, but got credits and earned everything early ...and still had to "wait" [15:02] activelow while there was maths challenges remaining, in parallel they unloaded tons of other material, unrelated, uncoordinated. [15:02] kingoffrance "no child left behind" ...noone can get too far ahead either lol [15:02] kingoffrance anyways, mastery was supposed to fix all that, but who knows [15:02] kingoffrance i am not complaining, just had to share [15:03] kingoffrance "GED" they wont tell you about other options, because they want you to be "social" [15:03] kingoffrance years ago, thats how itw as [15:03] kingoffrance *was [15:03] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [15:04] kingoffrance yes, i think things are generally compartmentalized, seems like little effort to integrate multiple subjects [15:05] activelow "noone can get too far ahead either" ... couldn't laugh about this one [15:06] kingoffrance well, people say mastery makes it worse. its how you get "average" lets say income level/poor area [15:06] kingoffrance so, if you are in a school in a bad area, less is expected of you [15:06] kingoffrance ditto teachers, etc. [15:07] kingoffrance so there are no standards, there is only "showed improvement" [15:07] kingoffrance but they have constant tests for that, to monitor everything [15:07] kingoffrance so they got rid of *meaingful* tests, replaced with "averages" for all the different categories [15:07] kingoffrance *meaningful [15:07] kingoffrance kind of worst of both worlds.... [15:08] kingoffrance its the problem with mastery: requires constant testing [15:08] kingoffrance even if supposedly it is more "individualized" [15:08] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [15:13] kingoffrance in some ways it makes me think of software industry: they change things so quickly, seemingly abandon things so quickly, in effort to try to stay relevant with business.... [15:13] kingoffrance i mean, if you earn credits and wait too long, a year 2 years ....may have to re-earn them, because no longer relevant towards a degree [15:13] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [15:14] kingoffrance "move fast and break things" the business schools break the degrees every so often lol [15:14] kingoffrance redo all the textbooks etc. as well [15:15] kingoffrance i mean same degree, same field...if you wait too long, credits can expire [15:15] kingoffrance "expire" have to be redone [15:16] kingoffrance not saying that is bad necessarily, just: its all business [15:17] kingoffrance anyway, sorry for offtopic [15:17] activelow seems not [15:18] kingoffrance i only have a community college degree, so yeah it was mostly useless for work [15:18] kingoffrance how did i get hired out of school? one person who learned linux on their own time [15:18] kingoffrance my employer saw me separate from the others for that one reason, having nothing to do with the school [15:19] kingoffrance nowadays they do have linux classes i think [15:19] kingoffrance not back then, there was a "unix" class [15:19] kingoffrance very introductory [15:19] activelow a scientific/engineering degree is beginning with mathematics, lots of it [15:20] kingoffrance i hope i dont sound mad, was long time ago....just my learning on my own time, was what got my hired. degree meant little [15:20] activelow and the computer nearby, is a graphing calculator with a computer algebra system [15:20] kingoffrance even though it was supposedly "business" type "degree" [15:21] kingoffrance another thing, the community college degrees, are basically only looked at as prepratory to a real 4 year degree at a real school [15:21] kingoffrance i mean, i didnt go to some univ of phoenix, total sketchy thing [15:22] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [15:22] kingoffrance but (although people will never say) many ppl only view them as "partial degree, incomplete transfer to a real school" [15:22] kingoffrance so you have a 2 year "degree" it is looked at as "incomplete 4 year from a real school" [15:22] kingoffrance like you "failed" [15:22] activelow nothing wrong with this, remembering my university schedule, it build upon existing skills with maths and physics. [15:23] activelow the basics were re-iterated and rushed through quickly again, and then some higher level followed quickly. [15:23] activelow anyway, i remember my university time as a nightmare [15:23] activelow because, of the insane chaos [15:24] kingoffrance people go to the cheaper schools because they are cheaper. so its not like they are looked down upon even for people transferring elsewhere and getting a 4 year degree. [15:24] kingoffrance its almost like they are where you earn as many credits as you can, because cheaper [15:24] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.83 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.81 swarm size (avg): 261.35 [15:24] kingoffrance and then, anything you cant do there, pay more for the real college, and get the real degree [15:25] activelow i think a scientific/engineering degree with required laboratory equipment and library can be arranged for cost-effective [15:25] activelow cost of living and such, this is the problem [15:26] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [15:27] kingoffrance well i was just getting at there are "degrees" and there are "degrees" ..... theres the 100% meaningless fly-by-night "schools", zero accredidation or transfer anywhere else theres mid-level community colleges maybe and then the real stuff $$$ [15:27] kingoffrance so i dont dispute standards being lowered, just thats how i would map things lol [15:28] activelow more expensive institutions may tend to be associated with industry and corporations, for job prospects [15:28] activelow however, science/engineering isn't any arbitrary business, requires long-term education, planning, and some quality of living [15:28] kingoffrance ^^^^ [15:31] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [15:32] kingoffrance maybe what i should say, is you have to plan what will transfer or not [15:33] kingoffrance if you are intending to go for the real 4 year at higher level [15:33] kingoffrance and even plan before that, high school too, etc. [15:33] kingoffrance even the "lesser" things, are seen as "stepping stones" [15:35] activelow btw. i "failed" with Grade A rating. and only planned to earn some money, to arrange for some living conditions [15:35] kingoffrance what do you mean "failed" with "grade A" ? :D [15:35] activelow kingoffrance: i left telekom. [15:36] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [15:38] activelow the paper i had, rated me with grade A with some maths and physics and elctronics, and had allowed me to write any diplomas degree paper for whichever corporation or company wanted to do this with me [15:41] activelow meanwhile, in the last 15 years i archived all contracts, conversations, bureaucratic lunacies [15:41] *CrystalMath (~coderain@9zjtgpjibvrrk.irc) has joined #techrights [15:41] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [15:42] activelow kingoffrance: can't tell you how this angers me, when i noticed some php coders were hired for 50k cash annually, in comparison to some other field of expertise, such as real science and engineering [15:44] activelow one last of such job placement offers, i remember, was from evangelical church in germany, for example. [15:45] activelow university library frankfurt denied paying expenses for me traveling there, which i didn't then of cause [15:45] kingoffrance lol i think i made less than that when i had to do php [15:45] kingoffrance that still doesnt make php worth it to me lol. not that what i saw of rails was much better lol [15:45] kingoffrance not trying to be snarky, just lots of crap code everywhere [15:46] kingoffrance not trying to pick on languages either [15:46] kingoffrance well, coming out of university straight into real world php ...i hope it scares them a little lol [15:46] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [15:46] kingoffrance thats how i was when i saw some of the awful rails stuff lol [15:47] kingoffrance you see, a giant divide "theory" "practice" especially OO lol [15:47] kingoffrance in school it was all so clean and documented...not in real life [15:48] kingoffrance "here, go figure out what's running on this server" [15:51] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/math-3 [15:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Math [15:52] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:53] kingoffrance in school, OO meant code re-use ...anywhere i worked: yeah, thats just throwaway stuff, "legacy" on life support, will die someday [15:53] kingoffrance i mean, if they learn that lesson early, may not be a bad thing [15:53] kingoffrance theres marketing, and there's reality :D [15:54] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@x3sugpyi5v6w6.irc) has joined #techrights [15:55] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [15:55] activelow nothing wrong with php, only tried to explain corporations couldn't distinguish php coding from some other science often [15:56] activelow not directly related to "community college" standards, or "GED". nonetheless, even if quality education, or lack thereof, was present, it didn't make a relevant difference. [15:56] kingoffrance well some of the agile stuff, i forget the term, was supposed to be more engineering believe it or not [15:56] kingoffrance based on real world processes used in other industries [15:56] activelow so, the hiring procedure resorts to shallow formalities, to fit into a schema [15:56] kingoffrance ^^^ [15:58] activelow that's why, a grade A rating which permits writing a quality academic diploma, wasn't recognised, and categorized as undergraduate drop-out [15:59] activelow my last test-case was publishing some crypto-cipher, which i designed and implemented based upon some memories, and published this to github, and send some application documents to german industry and the typical HR departments ● Nov 10 [16:00] activelow in two years i have not received a single phone call, mail, letter... nothing. [16:00] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [16:00] schestowitz-TR conformity, kingoffrance [16:03] activelow and i think, that's another problem, decades of education cannot easily be judged upon in 5 minutes or bey some "hey hi" matching [16:04] activelow even if, i didn't consider the grade A rating as relevant myself, because i knew the relevant topics and fields of experitise required years or decades of hard work [16:05] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [16:07] activelow with the publication on github, this had required some HR department had to at least navigate there, click on the project repository, and see for themselves if this came anywhere close the intellect required for job placement [16:08] activelow which, they didn't, not a single phone call, no mail, no letter, nothing, in two years. [16:10] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [16:12] schestowitz-TR only github counts? [16:12] schestowitz-TR so non-Microsoft useds are excluded? [16:12] schestowitz-TR worse than saying, only apply for this job if you have an account in FB [16:13] schestowitz-TR to 'prove' you have a social life [16:14] activelow it's not specific to github or related politics with it, thing is it was ignored. [16:14] activelow to summarize my findings. [16:14] activelow wouldn't surprise me, if a FB account with selfies was more helpful in HR departments than some scientific publication. [16:15] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [16:18] schestowitz-TR you do not want to work for a place like this [16:18] schestowitz-TR it would make your life miserable [16:18] schestowitz-TR keep looking [16:18] schestowitz-TR the right thing will come [16:19] schestowitz-TR you're still young in relative terms [16:19] schestowitz-TR it took me a while to find what I was looking for [16:19] schestowitz-TR it's the same with location [16:19] schestowitz-TR job [16:19] schestowitz-TR spouse etc. [16:19] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:19] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [16:19] schestowitz-TR you don't work to work for or live in or marry the wrong person/place [16:20] schestowitz-TR fwiw, germany isn't bad considering alternatives nearby [16:20] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [16:21] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:21] activelow good or bad for whom? [16:22] schestowitz-TR from what I know about you, you would fit best in: [16:22] schestowitz-TR (and I don't know enough about you) [16:22] schestowitz-TR engineer/researcher in some university lab [16:22] schestowitz-TR with lots of freedom [16:22] schestowitz-TR the pay sucks, but you do mostly what you fancy [16:22] schestowitz-TR and can teach people in the lab [16:22] schestowitz-TR lots of spare time to do your own projects [16:23] schestowitz-TR DT would kill you for money, same at IBM [16:23] schestowitz-TR IBM isn't old IBM [16:23] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@9vib856syp9u2.irc) has joined #techrights [16:23] activelow i don't care anymore [16:23] schestowitz-TR and Google too quit that "one day per week do your personal fan project" [16:23] activelow that's all past [16:23] schestowitz-TR IBM is the past [16:23] schestowitz-TR the future is free software [16:23] schestowitz-TR they try to co-opt it [16:23] MinceR old IBM would kill you for money too [16:23] schestowitz-TR but the community - what's left of it - is fighting back [16:24] schestowitz-TR MinceR: didn't say it would not [16:24] schestowitz-TR Google around 20 years ago was... interesting [16:24] activelow all i got for the last years of my work is legal threats, lies and corruption [16:24] MinceR :> [16:24] schestowitz-TR it wasn't yet doing all those evil things [16:24] schestowitz-TR or few, 'by accident' [16:24] activelow and i was fighting this for more than a decade, enought is enough [16:24] activelow no more [16:24] schestowitz-TR yup [16:24] activelow it's over, this time it's final [16:24] schestowitz-TR look around other types of works [16:25] schestowitz-TR and spend the time studying free software [16:25] schestowitz-TR it's what seems to make the most of your potential [16:25] schestowitz-TR I was like you [16:25] activelow that's all past, i did try all of this. [16:25] schestowitz-TR 9-5 jobs are for wage slaves [16:25] schestowitz-TR they're slaves of the expectation of getting wage x [16:25] schestowitz-TR until they get old and grey and it's too late to do anything personally meaningful [16:26] schestowitz-TR activelow: I skipped a lot of it [16:26] schestowitz-TR aged 21, I was given a job offer [16:26] schestowitz-TR which I rejected [16:26] schestowitz-TR stayed in university several more years [16:26] schestowitz-TR than found a way to bypass the 9-5 death row [16:26] schestowitz-TR rianne is out there atm looking for discounted food [16:27] schestowitz-TR and so we can leave on a meager salary of less than 1k a month [16:27] schestowitz-TR no need to worry about employer "appraisals" [16:27] schestowitz-TR or "job interviews" [16:27] schestowitz-TR we don't have those [16:28] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [16:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [16:31] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [16:33] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [16:38] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [16:43] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:48] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [16:51] kingoffrance "The Software Industry IS STILL the Problem - ACM Queue" https://web.archive.org/web/20211021144341/https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3489045 lol i thought of phk when i saw that, he had another paper about how much duplication was in ports ...and then i click the link, lol [16:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | The Software Industry IS STILL the Problem - ACM Queue [16:51] kingoffrance i dont see see many acm papers i guess :D [16:51] schestowitz-TR a friend sent it to me [16:51] schestowitz-TR see the link next to it [16:52] schestowitz-TR from dan geer [16:52] schestowitz-TR that too is epic, looking back [16:52] schestowitz-TR because we know how that panned out [16:52] schestowitz-TR activelow: acm is one among many that get neglect because of social control media, "smart" things, and short attention spans [16:53] schestowitz-TR I think some people still read books, but not the younger people [16:53] schestowitz-TR they want to "like" and stuff... 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Remember who runs this podcast: http://techrights.org/2020/05/29/jupiter-broadcasting/ [17:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Connected CloudGuru Doesnt Care About GNU/Linux and Now Its Gradually Killing the BSD/Linux-Centric Jupiter Broadcasting (Bought by Linux Academy) | Techrights [17:29] *x_ is now known as kingoffrance [17:29] techrights-news #gnu #Libtasn1 version 4.18.0 (stable) released on 9 November 2021 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Libtasn1 #freesw [17:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-directory.fsf.org | Libtasn1 - Free Software Directory [17:30] MinceR (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/interesting-gardening-pics-35.jpg [17:30] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/interesting-gardening-pics-35.jpg [17:30] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:30] schestowitz MinceR: cat doing pot again? [17:31] schestowitz tell her to "knock this shit off" [17:31] MinceR no, just fresh produce [17:31] schestowitz ryan daemonfc has like half a ton of litter [17:31] schestowitz carries across the state in his car [17:32] schestowitz quarter ton [17:32] schestowitz [23:55] I bought like 500 pounds of cat litter. [17:32] *activelow (~activelow@pmm6a84n53eyc.irc) has joined #techrights [17:33] techrights-news #Games: Beholder, PE, Jailbreaking PS5 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157768 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Beholder, PE, Jailbreaking PS5 | Tux Machines [17:34] schestowitz cat is fool of rubbish anyway [17:34] schestowitz roy@vonick:~$ which cat [17:34] schestowitz /usr/bin/cat [17:34] schestowitz roy@vonick:~$ cat /usr/bin/cat [17:34] schestowitz pure rubbish [17:35] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [17:38] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:40] techrights-news #SailfishOS Suomenlinna brings increased security, stability and reliability Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157769 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sailfish OS Suomenlinna brings increased security, stability and reliability | Tux Machines [17:40] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [17:42] *activelow (~activelow@fici29dumxqp6.irc) has joined #techrights [17:45] *activelow has quit (connection closed) [17:45] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [17:45] *activelow (~activelow@vqjjbheck86he.irc) has joined #techrights [17:47] techrights-news If You Dont Control Your PC, Military-Connected Companies Control Your PC and Its Not Even (Truly) Yours http://techrights.org/2021/11/10/control-your-pc/ #gnu #linux #microsoft #windows #hp [17:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | If You Dont Control Your PC, Military-Connected Companies Control Your PC and Its Not Even (Truly) Yours | Techrights [17:50] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [17:52] techrights-news Whats new in #RHEL 8.5 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157770 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What's new in RHEL 8.5 | Tux Machines [17:55] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [17:58] techrights-news Improved #Retpoline Code In The Linux 5.16 Kernel - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.16-Improves-Retpolines #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/11/10/#latest [17:58] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.16-Improves-Retpolines [17:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Improved Retpoline Code In The Linux 5.16 Kernel - Phoronix [17:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts ● Nov 10 [18:00] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [18:00] techrights-news What To Do After Installing Ubuntu 21.10 Impish Indri Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157771 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What To Do After Installing Ubuntu 21.10 Impish Indri | Tux Machines [18:03] techrights-news Sick of Windows? #HowTo test-drive Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157772 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sick of Windows? 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Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157773 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What Version of RHEL am I Using? | Tux Machines [18:13] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [18:18] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [18:19] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/funny-pictures-11-3-21-12.jpg [18:19] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/funny-pictures-11-3-21-12.jpg [18:23] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [18:24] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157774 #Linux #TuxMachines [18:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:28] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [18:33] techrights-news "From PCX to TGA to VRML, considering a number of image formats that the world forgot. Not every image standard is going to last, no matter how pretty it is." https://tedium.co/2021/11/10/10-forgotten-image-formats/ [18:33] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: tedium.co | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2021/11/10/10-forgotten-image-formats/ [18:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tedium.co | 10 Image File Formats That Didnt Make It [18:33] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [18:36] techrights-news IBM PCjr From 1984 Keeps Todays Clocks Running In Sync | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/11/09/ibm-pcjr-from-1984-keeps-todays-clocks-running-in-sync/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/11/10/#latest [18:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IBM PCjr From 1984 Keeps Todays Clocks Running In Sync | Hackaday [18:39] techrights-news Intel? The same #intel that gives #nsa #backdoors in all chips? https://ubuntu.com//blog/secure-containers-supply-chain-intel-openvino-canonical Intel hates Linux: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [18:39] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/secure-containers-supply-chain-intel-openvino-canonical [18:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel and Canonical to secure containers software supply chain | Ubuntu [18:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [18:40] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/funny-pictures-11-3-21-13.jpg [18:40] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/funny-pictures-11-3-21-13.jpg [18:41] techrights-news Geniatech Unveils New 4K-Capable Raspberry Pi Alternative http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157750#comment-31736 [18:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | XPI-S905X3/S905X2 4K SBC with 2GB RAM sold for $35 and up | Tux Machines [18:42] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [18:42] techrights-news Shows/Video: KDE, Fedora 35, Linux as a Daily Driver Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157775 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shows/Video: KDE, Fedora 35, Linux as a Daily Driver | Tux Machines [18:46] techrights-news Most FDM Printers Are Also Filament Dryers (with A Little Help) | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/11/09/most-fdm-printers-are-also-filament-dryers-with-a-little-help/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/11/10/#latest [18:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Most FDM Printers Are Also Filament Dryers (with A Little Help) | Hackaday [18:47] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [18:50] techrights-news A bit misleading as #Bitlocker is not proper #encryption ; it's back doored in the sense #Microsoft steals the keys https://itsfoss.com/mount-encrypted-windows-partition-linux/ see http://techrights.org/2014/07/31/microsoft-back-doors-admission/ and http://techrights.org/2015/11/14/microsoft-bitlocker-has-bugback-doors-windows-laptopdesktop-encryption-just-a-farce/ [18:50] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: itsfoss.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itsfoss.com/mount-encrypted-windows-partition-linux/ [18:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-itsfoss.com | How to Mount Bitlocker Encrypted Windows Partition on Linux [18:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Former Microsoft Engineer Working on Windows BitLocker Confirms Government Asks Microsoft for Back Doors | Techrights [18:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft BitLocker Has Bug/Back Doors, Windows Laptop/Desktop Encryption Just a Farce | Techrights [18:51] techrights-news Power and versatility of #kde demonstrated https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/kde-neon-active-titlebar-colors.html [18:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | How to change the color of active windows in Plasma [18:52] techrights-news #microsoft #windows propaganda sites have NEW CONTENT: How to REMOVE #gnu #linux ... #microsoftLovesWindows [18:52] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [18:52] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:52] techrights-news Ikea PM2.5 air quality sensors ESP8266 hack adds WiFi, MQTT, and Tasmota support - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/11/10/ikea-pm2-5-air-quality-sensor-esp8266-wifi-hack-mqtt-tasmota/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/11/10/#latest [18:52] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/11/10/ikea-pm2-5-air-quality-sensor-esp8266-wifi-hack-mqtt-tasmota/ [18:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Ikea PM2.5 air quality sensor's ESP8266 hack adds WiFi, MQTT, and Tasmota support - CNX Software [18:54] *activelow (~activelow@cr3y5h5kah6hq.irc) has joined #techrights [18:57] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [18:57] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:57] *Snuupy has quit (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) [18:57] *AdmFubar has quit (connection closed) [18:58] *Snuupy (~Snuupy@user/snuupy) has joined #techrights ● Nov 10 [19:01] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:01] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #techrights [19:02] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [19:02] techrights-news "Why when there's Git? Crates is just another attempt to fill a self-created hole, it's simply NPM by another name. And then the Elephant in the room... "Crates.io" in particular is directly tied to Microsoft!!!" https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2021/11/10/where_rust_fits_into_linux/ [19:02] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2021/11/10/where_rust_fits_into_linux/ [19:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.theregister.com | Keep calm and learn Rust: We'll be seeing a lot more of the language in Linux very soon The Register Forums [19:03] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157776 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [19:07] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [19:15] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [19:19] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [19:24] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [19:29] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [19:32] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:34] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [19:36] *activelow (~activelow@cr3y5h5kah6hq.irc) has joined #techrights [19:39] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [19:48] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [19:53] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [19:58] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) ● Nov 10 [20:02] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [20:07] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [20:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@62vhapicsw4ds.irc) has joined #techrights [20:11] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.73 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.91 swarm size (avg): 261.38 [20:13] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [20:21] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [20:24] *techrights_guest|17 (~7812e37c@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [20:24] AdmFubar1 https://www.accessnow.org/mipa/ [20:24] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/mipa/ [20:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Civil society counters Big Tech in Massachusetts privacy debate - Access Now [20:25] *techrights_guest|17 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [20:26] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [20:31] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [20:33] *activelow has quit (connection closed) [20:33] *activelow (~activelow@mii8cedt3f3mk.irc) has joined #techrights [20:36] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [20:36] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@s32zeyu95pyhg.irc) has joined #techrights [20:37] AdmFubar1 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/researchers-show-that-apple-s-csam-scanning-can-be-fooled-easily/ [20:37] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/researchers-show-that-apple-s-csam-scanning-can-be-fooled-easily/ [20:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Researchers show that Apples CSAM scanning can be fooled easily [20:37] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2021/11/02/fake-products-obvious-plant/ [20:37] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2021/11/02/fake-products-obvious-plant/ [20:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | 30 Of The Funniest Fake Products Created By "Obvious Plant" [20:40] DaemonFC gy/researchers-show-that-apple-s-csam-scanning-can-be-fooled-easily/ [20:40] DaemonFC -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.bleepingcomputer.com | Researchers show that Apples CSAM scanning can be fooled easily [20:40] DaemonFC Probably involves just doing something that changes the hash values. [20:41] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [20:42] schestowitz DaemonFC: the thing we never published in Techrights [20:42] schestowitz Rick's hash values [20:42] schestowitz tens of thousands of them [20:42] schestowitz unredacted [20:43] DaemonFC Well, the police probably released them on purpose. [20:43] DaemonFC Think about it. [20:43] DaemonFC If you put them on most "clouds" or Windows PCs then they immediately get a ping. [20:44] DaemonFC They know who else needs their door knocked down. [20:44] DaemonFC Publishing the hash values may do some of their work for them. [20:46] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [20:48] techrights-news What It's Like to Work With Eight Monitors on the Cheap (Less Than $1,000 in Total) http://techrights.org/2021/11/10/eight-monitors-video/ #gnu #linux #kde #freesw [20:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | What Its Like to Work With Eight Monitors on the Cheap (Less Than $1,000 in Total) | Techrights [20:49] AdmFubar1 does that price include all the video output for those monitors? [20:50] schestowitz screens? [20:52] schestowitz they're about half the sum [20:53] schestowitz about 400 [20:53] techrights-news Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157777 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [20:54] DaemonFC schestowitz, Mom said her friend at work changes his brita filters every 7-8 months. I said, "Then it's worse than not using one.". [20:54] DaemonFC "The stuff that grows in there after a few months is pretty disgusting. Tell him to cut the filter open and see what his water is passing through." [20:55] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [20:55] techrights-news #canonical sucking up to #microsoft again, instead of competing against its #ProprietarySoftware https://ubuntu.com//blog/sql-server-on-ubuntu-pro-bringing-it-all-back-home see http://techrights.org/2021/07/09/canonical-ubuntu-microsoft/ [20:55] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/sql-server-on-ubuntu-pro-bringing-it-all-back-home [20:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SQL Server on Ubuntu Pro: bringing it all back home | Ubuntu [20:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Canonical Dooms the Ubuntu Brand to Appease Microsoft | Techrights [20:57] DaemonFC schestowitz, Google is popping up notifications on my phone about WSL now. [20:57] techrights-news #Kabul #Drone Strike Report Dodges Big Issue: Intelligence https://theintercept.com/2021/11/04/kabul-drone-strike-military-investigation-intelligence/ #theintercept #omidyarPAC [20:57] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: theintercept.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://theintercept.com/2021/11/04/kabul-drone-strike-military-investigation-intelligence/ [20:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theintercept.com | Kabul Drone Strike Report Dodges Big Issue: Intelligence [20:57] schestowitz DaemonFC: WeaSEL news? [20:57] DaemonFC yeah [20:57] schestowitz googlebombed [20:57] schestowitz From Microsoft loves Linux [20:58] schestowitz To Microsoft OWNS Linux [20:58] schestowitz Mission Accomplished (TM) [20:58] DaemonFC "Microsoft has acquired GitHub. Decentraleyes has left GitHub. Welcome to its new home!" [20:58] DaemonFC :) [20:59] psydruid From Microsoft With Love For Linux [20:59] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:59] DaemonFC Does that make Nadella "Ernst Stavro Blofeld"? [20:59] techrights-news #Portugal makes it illegal for your boss to text you after work in 'game changer' remote work law | Euronews https://www.euronews.com/next/2021/11/08/portugal-makes-it-illegal-for-your-boss-to-text-you-after-work #better yet, do not have a mobile 'phone' [20:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Portugal makes it illegal for your boss to text you after work in 'game changer' remote work law | Euronews ● Nov 10 [21:00] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [21:00] techrights-news Opinion | Paid Family Leave Is Good for Everyone - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/08/opinion/paid-family-leave-fathers.html #nytimes [21:00] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/08/opinion/paid-family-leave-fathers.html [21:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | Paid Family Leave Is Good for Everyone - The New York Times [21:01] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [21:01] techrights-news 15 years ago #mozilla #firefox had awesome extensions, which Mozilla later killed. Now we have this: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/videos/personalize-firefox-with-colorways/ They also killed most #thunderbird extensions... [21:01] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/en/videos/personalize-firefox-with-colorways/ [21:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Personalize Firefox with colorways [21:01] schestowitz DaemonFC: killa feecha [21:03] AdmFubar1 https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-patches-excel-zero-day-used-in-attacks-asks-mac-users-to-wait/ [21:03] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-patches-excel-zero-day-used-in-attacks-asks-mac-users-to-wait/ [21:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Microsoft patches Excel zero-day used in attacks, asks Mac users to wait [21:03] techrights-news Laughter in the Time of Cholera The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/essay/laughter-in-the-time-of-cholera/ #publicdomainreview #publicdomain [21:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | Laughter in the Time of Cholera The Public Domain Review [21:05] techrights-news Survey Results of Packagers, Maintainers Posted - openSUSE News https://news.opensuse.org/2021/11/10/survey-results-of-pm-posted/ #suse #opensuse #gnu #linux [21:05] DaemonFC schestowitz, Thoughts on Windows 11 SE? [21:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | Survey Results of Packagers, Maintainers Posted - openSUSE News [21:05] DaemonFC Dumping shitty Windows laptops into schools. [21:05] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [21:05] DaemonFC Stallman compares this to letting tobacco companies in with cartons of cigarettes, to teach children to smoke. [21:05] DaemonFC mjg59 hated that. mjg59 is off to make transphobia remarks. [21:07] techrights-news Amazon Assures Customers That Alexas Far Too Busy Devising Their Own Plans To Listen In On Private Conversations https://www.theonion.com/amazon-assures-customers-that-alexas-far-too-busy-devis-1848005437 #theonion #satire [21:07] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: theonion.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theonion.com/amazon-assures-customers-that-alexas-far-too-busy-devis-1848005437 [21:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com | Amazon Assures Customers That Alexas Far Too Busy Devising Their Own Plans To Listen In On Private Conversations [21:09] techrights-news Reborn Into a New Form (1849) The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/essay/reborn-into-a-new-form/ #publicdomainreview #publicdomain [21:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | Reborn Into a New Form (1849) The Public Domain Review [21:10] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [21:12] techrights-news #ibm #fedora : "We're updating copr packages to the new versions which will bring new features and bugfixes. This outage impacts the copr-frontend and the copr-backend"... Why the downtime if you outsourced to GAFAM #clownComputing h http://techrights.org/2020/08/09/aws-fedoraproject/ [21:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | It Looks Like Red Hats (IBM) Fedora Project May be Outsourced to Amazons Datacentres | Techrights [21:12] techrights-news #ArcoLinux 21.11.05 is released. #gnu #linux [21:14] techrights-news LOL: "Azure Sphere security." #microsoft #azure is #surveillance and #nsa #backdoors (see USA Cloud Act), NOT security. It's the ANTITHESIS of security. https://linuxgizmos.com/nxps-i-mx9-debuts-with-dual-a55-micronpu-equipped-i-mx93/ [21:14] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: linuxgizmos.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/nxps-i-mx9-debuts-with-dual-a55-micronpu-equipped-i-mx93/ [21:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/nxps-i-mx9-debuts-with-dual-a55-micronpu-equipped-i-mx93/ ) [21:15] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [21:15] techrights-news " #WordPress 5.8.2 is now available! This #security and maintenance release features 2 bug fixes in addition to 1 security fix." https://wordpress.org/news/2021/11/wordpress-5-8-2-security-and-maintenance-release/ [21:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-News WordPress 5.8.2 Security and Maintenance Release WordPress.org [21:16] techrights-news Canonical Makes it Easy to Run a Linux VM on Apple M1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157728#comment-31737 [21:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Canonical Makes It Easier to Run Ubuntu VMs on Apple M1 Macs with Multipass | Tux Machines [21:17] techrights-news "I am having success with fixing Firefox, will post about that later. For now want to document a little experiment; the #linux #kernel configured to use efifb and #vesafb ." https://bkhome.org/news/202111/kernel-51078-with-legacy-framebuffers.html [21:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Kernel 5.10.78 with legacy framebuffers [21:18] techrights-news #DirectIO For OpenZFS Shows Very Promising Performance - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OpenZFS-DirectIO-Performance #OpenZFS needs to #deletegithub http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [21:18] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OpenZFS-DirectIO-Performance [21:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DirectIO For OpenZFS Shows Very Promising Performance - Phoronix [21:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [21:19] AdmFubar1 https://www.darkreading.com/risk/are-you-planning-for-the-quantum-transhumanist-threat- [21:19] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: darkreading.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.darkreading.com/risk/are-you-planning-for-the-quantum-transhumanist-threat- [21:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darkreading.com | Are You Planning for the Quantum, Transhumanist Threat? [21:19] schestowitz AdmFubar1: sounds like satire [21:19] schestowitz I did not link [21:19] schestowitz In mean click [21:20] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [21:20] techrights-news #geminiSpace visualised: "With his kind permission, I wrote a script to download and parse this page daily, store the data in a SQLite database and generate 38 different charts to visualize the data." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007582.html [21:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Geminispace Statistics Visualized [21:21] techrights-news Truly awesome! gemini://botond.online/en/stats/ great work, Balzs Botond [21:23] techrights-news Linux overview | #Xubuntu 21.10 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=p9r29_bMuVI #video #invidious #gnu #linux [21:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linux overview | Xubuntu 21.10 - Invidious [21:24] techrights-news Sulfur Hexafluoride: The Nightmare Greenhouse Gas Thats Just Too Useful To Stop Using | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/11/10/sulfur-hexafluoride-the-nightmare-greenhouse-gas-thats-just-too-useful-to-stop-using/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/11/10/#latest [21:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sulfur Hexafluoride: The Nightmare Greenhouse Gas Thats Just Too Useful To Stop Using | Hackaday [21:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [21:24] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 27.36 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 7.03 swarm size (avg): 261.38 [21:25] AdmFubar1 it is more of a prediction.... [21:26] AdmFubar1 but we know how those go.. [21:28] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [21:29] schestowitz AdmFubar1: the buzzwords can be annoying [21:29] schestowitz the vapourware more so [21:29] schestowitz clickbait the worst [21:30] schestowitz they taught us QC in uni [21:30] schestowitz it didn't get anywhere 20 years later [21:30] schestowitz it's there [21:30] schestowitz but nobody uses it [21:30] schestowitz IBM uses it for vapourware style of marketing [21:30] schestowitz "we're so cutting-edge" [21:31] techrights-news #Kernel : #OpenZFS , Legacy Framebuffers, Rust, and Improved Retpoline Code Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157778 ##Linux #TuxMachines [21:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: OpenZFS, Legacy Framebuffers, Rust, and Improved Retpoline Code | Tux Machines [21:32] techrights-news Axis & Allies 1942 Online from Beamdog is out now with full cross-play | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/axis-a-allies-1942-online-from-beamdog-is-out-now-with-full-cross-play #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [21:32] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/axis-a-allies-1942-online-from-beamdog-is-out-now-with-full-cross-play [21:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Axis & Allies 1942 Online from Beamdog is out now with full cross-play | GamingOnLinux [21:32] techrights-news #RetroArch brings more #emulator cores to Steam including #PPSSPP | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/retroarch-brings-more-emulator-cores-to-steam-including-ppsspp #GamingOnLinux #games [21:32] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/retroarch-brings-more-emulator-cores-to-steam-including-ppsspp [21:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RetroArch brings more emulator cores to Steam including PPSSPP | GamingOnLinux [21:33] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [21:33] techrights-news " #FishingParadiso is the next title from Japanese developer #Odencat , who also created Bear's Restaurant, with a release planned to arrive with #Linux support in early 2022." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/relaxing-tropical-adventure-fishing-paradiso-announced-for-2022 [21:33] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/relaxing-tropical-adventure-fishing-paradiso-announced-for-2022 [21:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Relaxing tropical adventure Fishing Paradiso announced for 2022 | GamingOnLinux [21:33] techrights-news Silly platformer metroidvania Clunky Hero is now in Early Access | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/silly-platformer-metroidvania-clunky-hero-is-now-in-early-access #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [21:33] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/11/silly-platformer-metroidvania-clunky-hero-is-now-in-early-access [21:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Silly platformer metroidvania Clunky Hero is now in Early Access | GamingOnLinux [21:34] techrights-news Many people wrongly assume that when they buy a PC and pay for it, that immediately means they own and control that PC; in reality, however, companies with connections to the American government (controlled by imperialistic ambitions) typically control every aspect of the operating system, so it needs to be replaced http://techrights.org/2021/11/10/control-your-pc/ [21:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | If You Dont Control Your PC, Military-Connected Companies Control Your PC and Its Not Even (Truly) Yours | Techrights [21:35] techrights-news At the start of November I shuffled things around as my audio system (since 2013) had died; today I show the way I keep an eye on things while researching and producing articles/videos/short posts (its a very personal preference, which Ive optimised for my needs over Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/11/10/eight-monitors-video/ gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/10/eight-monitors-video/ [21:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | What Its Like to Work With Eight Monitors on the Cheap (Less Than $1,000 in Total) | Techrights [21:36] techrights-news "Almost a year ago I added a script made by Helmut Grohne that is able to create a #CMake toolchain file pre-filled with Debian-specifics ross compilers." https://perezmeyer.com.ar/blog/2021/10/21/cmake-toolchain-files-with-debian-cross-compilers/ [21:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-perezmeyer.com.ar | CMake toolchain files with Debian's cross compilers Solo s que se querer, que tengo Dios y tengo fe [21:38] techrights-news #GNU #Linux patching the why and the how | TahawulTech.com https://www.tahawultech.com/features/linux-patching-the-why-and-the-how/ #tahawultech | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/11/10/#latest [21:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux patching the why and the how | TahawulTech.com [21:38] techrights-news #GNU #Linux patching the why and the how | TahawulTech.com https://www.tahawultech.com/features/linux-patching-the-why-and-the-how/ #tahawultech | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/11/10/#latest [21:38] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [21:39] techrights-news "I recently had to get in to a serial console on the machine. The IPMI address hosts a web console. From that you can get a serial console on the server, but you need JNLP, which stands for Java Net Launch Protocol. It is implemented by IcedTea in OpenJDK: icedtea-web is the name of the RPM on Fedora 34." http://adam.younglogic.com/2021/11/jnlp-access-to-bmc-on-fedora/ [21:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-adam.younglogic.com | JNLP Access to BMC On Fedora | Adam Youngs Web Log [21:41] techrights-news Hacked Punch-Out Controlled With Actual Punches | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/11/10/hacked-punch-out-controlled-with-actual-punches/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/11/10/#latest [21:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hacked Punch-Out Controlled With Actual Punches | Hackaday [21:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [21:43] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [21:45] AdmFubar1 https://hackaday.com/2021/11/10/sulfur-hexafluoride-the-nightmare-greenhouse-gas-thats-just-too-useful-to-stop-using/ [21:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sulfur Hexafluoride: The Nightmare Greenhouse Gas Thats Just Too Useful To Stop Using | Hackaday [21:48] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [21:51] techrights-news #Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157779 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:52] techrights-news #Games: Axis & Allies 1942 Online, #RetroArch , and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157780 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Axis & Allies 1942 Online, RetroArch, and More | Tux Machines [21:53] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [21:53] AdmFubar1 https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2021/11/08/younger-generations-cybersecurity/ [21:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.helpnetsecurity.com | Younger generations care little about cybersecurity - Help Net Security [21:54] schestowitz concurs with what we see... [21:54] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@sctsjmg96zkru.irc) has joined #techrights [21:55] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [21:55] techrights-news Younger generations care little about cybersecurity - Help Net Security https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2021/11/08/younger-generations-cybersecurity/ #helpnetsecurity [21:57] *gde33 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) ● Nov 10 [22:00] techrights-news #RaspberryPi inspired Intel SBC supports Myriad X AI accelerator, 5G connectivity Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157781 will probably cost 3-5 times more, have #nsa #backdoors (ME), and waste lots of energy. DOA. What is the target market here? [22:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi inspired Intel SBC supports Myriad X AI accelerator, 5G connectivity | Tux Machines [22:01] techrights-news Terrible, shallow tips. #FOSSlife (LPI) = the #faksecurity club https://www.fosslife.org/7-tips-online-security [22:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | 7 Tips for Online Security [22:01] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [22:03] techrights-news #Firefox Nightly: These Weeks in Firefox: Issue 101 https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2021/11/10/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-101-2/ #mozilla [22:03] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2021/11/10/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-101-2/ [22:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.nightly.mozilla.org | These Weeks in Firefox: Issue 101 Firefox Nightly News [22:03] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:03] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:04] *activelow (~activelow@7zmmwv4qqhr7u.irc) has joined #techrights [22:04] techrights-news "A different update strategy: Each release of EasyOS will have the latest version of Firefox. No need for users to use the auto-update feature in #Firefox . You can turn it on if you want, but no need. I am bringing out new releases of #EasyOS quite frequently." https://bkhome.org/news/202111/how-to-download-the-latest-version-of-firefox.html [22:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | How to download the latest version of Firefox [22:06] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [22:07] techrights-news Software Freedom in Europe 2021 https://fsfe.org/news/2021/news-20211110-01.en.html taking #microsoft and #google money while attacking #rms is a really awful way to celebrate #softwareFreedom [22:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsfe.org | Software Freedom in Europe 2021 - FSFE [22:11] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/11/10/firefox-esr-91-creating-a-massive-headache-for-debian-11-gnu-linux/ [22:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Firefox ESR 91 creating a massive headache for Debian 11 GNU/Linux. BaronHK's Rants [22:11] DaemonFC schestowitz, ^ [22:11] schestowitz good topic to cover [22:11] schestowitz excellent [22:11] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [22:12] schestowitz will report typos.. [22:13] techrights-news This Extension Adds Your Text as Watermark in Ubuntu 21.10 GNOME Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157782 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This Extension Adds Your Text as Watermark in Ubuntu 21.10 GNOME | Tux Machines [22:13] techrights-news #Mozilla : #Firefox in EasyOS, Firefox Nightly, and Firefox Extensions Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157783 #TuxMachines [22:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla: Firefox in EasyOS, Firefox Nightly, and Firefox Extensions | Tux Machines [22:14] DaemonFC It's the Mozilla branding that prevents Debian from backporting CVE fixes until they sort out the troubles with 91. [22:15] DaemonFC At this point, there's not too much divergence to selectively backport CVE fixes. SeaMonkey still does it into their fork of Gecko 60, and that's much older. [22:16] DaemonFC schestowitz, SeaMonkey is putting less work into getting onto a newer Gecko than they are into ChatZilla at this point. [22:16] DaemonFC They're not happy with the Gecko situation. [22:16] schestowitz "and this is very important for people who are happy with the way their computer works and dont want to be on a bug treadmill, like Fedora." [22:16] schestowitz True [22:17] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [22:17] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [22:18] DaemonFC The issue with Mesa and Linux is that they each contain part of the graphics stack. [22:18] DaemonFC At some point, bringing in a new Mesa will want a newer kernel than Debian 11 provides for. [22:19] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@jiz967bhsgr6i.irc) has joined #techrights [22:19] schestowitz no typos found [22:19] DaemonFC Then you don't just have a new Mesa for Firefox, you need a new kernel too. [22:19] DaemonFC They're going to need a different browser. [22:19] techrights-news #Firefox ESR 91 Creating Massive Headache for #Debian 11 (GNU/Linux) Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/11/10/firefox-esr-91-issues/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/11/10/firefox-esr-91-issues/ [22:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Firefox ESR 91 Creating Massive Headache for Debian 11 (GNU/Linux) | Techrights [22:20] schestowitz DaemonFC: is it the same with thunderbird? [22:20] schestowitz mozilla broke pgp under some cases for me [22:20] schestowitz when several addresses are chained to the same key [22:20] DaemonFC I would assume so. They're both using Proton now. [22:20] DaemonFC And both moving to Wayland by some point. [22:21] schestowitz IBM [22:21] DaemonFC This doesn't hurt IBM at all. They backport new kernels and new Mesa into RHEL. [22:21] DaemonFC It doesn't hurt Canonical either. [22:22] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [22:22] DaemonFC At a certain point, they force the HWE stack anyway to remain supported. [22:22] DaemonFC If they had to, they could just start doing it earlier to make sure Firefox works. [22:22] DaemonFC And Snap gives them more options anyway. [22:22] DaemonFC New Mesa just for Firefox? Sure! [22:22] DaemonFC That's why Flatpak Firefox 94 works fine on Debian 11. [22:23] schestowitz I don't think browsers should be linked to graphics accel anyway [22:23] schestowitz but there you go.. [22:23] DaemonFC The idea of a coherent system with shared libraries and perfect integration is overrated anyway. B-) [22:23] schestowitz rendering with GPU [22:23] schestowitz lagrange does the same BTW [22:23] schestowitz for smooth scrolling I think [22:24] schestowitz DaemonFC: well, I reckon core Mozilla people buy the latest Apple gadget every 1-2 years [22:24] schestowitz they want volatile garbage [22:24] schestowitz I just want to get things done [22:25] schestowitz they say gnu people like to tinker [22:25] schestowitz yet we're not the ones virus-scanning, rebooting etc. [22:25] schestowitz we usually just get things done once the system is tinkered to our personal needs [22:25] schestowitz in debian I want minimal change once things are set [22:26] schestowitz new mesa can break stuff [22:26] schestowitz unless it's minor mesa bugfixes [22:26] techrights-news #Mesa 22.0 #Zink Speeds Up OpenGL-Over-Vulkan On CPUs - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Zink-Mesa-22.0-Faster-CPU #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [22:26] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Zink-Mesa-22.0-Faster-CPU [22:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa 22.0 Zink Speeds Up OpenGL-Over-Vulkan On CPUs - Phoronix [22:27] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [22:28] techrights-news Kernel 5.15: A small but mighty Halloween release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157409#comment-31741 [22:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 5.15 Released with New NTFS File System, In-Kernel SMB Server, and More | Tux Machines [22:29] psydruid > yet we're not the ones virus-scanning, rebooting etc. [22:29] psydruid HKLM Hocus Pocus Regedit Pray To The Gates Of Hell Sim Sala Bim [22:29] psydruid They always omit those parts [22:30] DaemonFC Mesa 21 would be in Backports at some point anyway. [22:30] psydruid You need *more* and *more arcane* knowledge to keep Windows and macOS running that you don't need on GNU/Linux and BSD [22:30] DaemonFC So you can upgrade just that part of the OS and leave everything else alone. [22:30] DaemonFC Just like backports kernels. [22:31] schestowitz psydruid: I have one 'mole' at Microsoft who reboots at least once a week [22:31] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:31] schestowitz out of need [22:31] schestowitz not choice [22:31] schestowitz it's so funny [22:31] DaemonFC schestowitz, I plan to bump Mesa to 21 at some point. [22:31] DaemonFC 20.3.5 seems to have everything you need to run VKD3D though. [22:31] schestowitz I run minimal things [22:31] schestowitz I check one by one updates I apply [22:31] schestowitz I can reject som [22:31] schestowitz *some [22:33] techrights-news Faster IPA Recycling For Your Resin Print Workflow | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/11/09/faster-ipa-recycling-for-your-resin-print-workflow/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/11/10/#latest [22:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Faster IPA Recycling For Your Resin Print Workflow | Hackaday [22:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [22:35] DaemonFC EGL is a better API though, for what they want to do. [22:35] techrights-news #ibm #redhat = #war and death https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/leading-open-how-military-veterans-view-open-culture-red-hat see 1) http://techrights.org/2020/04/24/raytheon-blessed-by-red-hat/ and 2) http://techrights.org/2020/10/24/militarised-elephants/ [22:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Leading from open: How military veterans view open culture at Red Hat [22:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Giving Awards to Raytheon Wont Help Red Hats Image | Techrights [22:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Militarised Elephant in the Room Still Commands a Lot of Free Software Development | Techrights [22:35] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [22:35] DaemonFC It works fine on X. [22:35] DaemonFC However, the decision to blacklist everything older than the most current release of Mesa is a WTF. [22:35] DaemonFC EGL has worked fine for years! [22:36] *activelow (~activelow@a5avv33hqqukg.irc) has joined #techrights [22:36] DaemonFC Before Vulkan was even hashed out, and they were stil ldoing OpenGL ES, I ran KWin on that, even though it was a desktop-class video card. [22:36] techrights-news 'Chipping' people through cards you compel them to carry https://hackaday.com/2021/11/10/nfc-performance-its-all-in-the-antenna/ [22:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NFC Performance: Its All In The Antenna | Hackaday [22:37] DaemonFC OpenGL is a bit much just for desktop effects and compositing. [22:37] techrights-news #Kafka Monthly Digest: October 2021 | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/11/10/kafka-monthly-digest-october-2021 #ibm #redhat [22:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Kafka Monthly Digest: October 2021 | Red Hat Developer [22:39] DaemonFC schestowitz, Why are we still talking about S3 Texture Compression in NEW video games? [22:39] DaemonFC There have been better algorithms, royalty-free, for years now. [22:40] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [22:40] DaemonFC They had to develop a plug-in for Mesa to use s3tc and I had to grab it or textures didn't look right in some games, including TES IV: Oblivion. [22:40] DaemonFC It's part of core Mesa now that the patent expired. [22:40] DaemonFC But it was another mp3-like mess for a while. [22:41] DaemonFC The patent expirations have made GNU/Linux much more pleasant to use, out of the box. [22:41] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:41] DaemonFC I'm glad that nobody but Apple exposed HEVC to the Web. [22:41] techrights-news 7 Things You Should Know Before Switching to a Window Manager Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157784 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 7 Things You Should Know Before Switching to a Window Manager | Tux Machines [22:42] techrights-news A Breathtaking Circuit Sculpture Clock | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/11/10/a-breathtaking-circuit-sculpture-clock/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/11/10/#latest [22:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Breathtaking Circuit Sculpture Clock | Hackaday [22:43] techrights-news James Bruton built a robot that moves like an earthworm | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/11/10/james-bruton-built-a-robot-that-moves-like-an-earthworm/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/11/10/#latest [22:43] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/11/10/james-bruton-built-a-robot-that-moves-like-an-earthworm/ [22:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | James Bruton built a robot that moves like an earthworm | Arduino Blog [22:45] techrights-news Toolbox is now Toolbx | Debarshis den https://debarshiray.wordpress.com/2021/11/10/toolbox-is-now-toolbx/ #debarshiray #ContainerToolbx #Toolbx #freesw [22:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-debarshiray.wordpress.com | Toolbox is now Toolbx | Debarshi's den [22:45] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [22:45] techrights-news Linux finally has an impressive cloud-like OS in Ubuntu Web Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157785 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux finally has an impressive cloud-like OS in Ubuntu Web | Tux Machines [22:46] *activelow (~activelow@5sjysqdqbuhhc.irc) has joined #techrights [22:46] techrights-news 3D Printed Absolute Encoder Is Absolutely Wonderful | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/11/10/3d-printed-absolute-encoder-is-absolutely-wonderful/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/11/10/#latest [22:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3D Printed Absolute Encoder Is Absolutely Wonderful | Hackaday [22:47] techrights-news Manage your #PostgreSQL Time series with #TimescaleDB (open-source) https://medevel.com/timescaledb/ #psql #postgres [22:47] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/timescaledb/ [22:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Manage your PostgreSQL Time series with TimescaleDB (open-source) [22:47] schestowitz DaemonFC: a bit off topic [22:47] schestowitz you mentioned your mom and illness [22:47] schestowitz you had left before I could reply, had a nap [22:48] schestowitz I checked NHS numbers today [22:48] schestowitz a good chunk of NHS medical workers, English people, push back and refuse the vaccines [22:48] schestowitz as for hospitals [22:48] schestowitz we have about 10k covid-19 patients in them right now [22:48] schestowitz same time last year it was 15k [22:48] schestowitz an improvement, but not huge [22:49] schestowitz considering we also know better now how to cope with or help patients [22:50] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [22:50] schestowitz alas, what I thought was remarkable was [22:50] schestowitz 103,000 people who work in England with patients [22:51] schestowitz are apprehensive about the jabs they see their patients take [22:51] schestowitz in the face of growing pressure and threats from the employer [22:51] DaemonFC Yeah, she had another test today. They make everyone test every day now. [22:51] DaemonFC Vaccinated or not. [22:51] DaemonFC Or else you just don't work there anymore. [22:52] schestowitz tests are inperfect [22:52] DaemonFC schestowitz, They had an employee outbreak a few weeks ago. [22:52] DaemonFC 5 employees, all vaccinated. [22:52] schestowitz but a year later we know being vaxxed does not mean incapable if spreading [22:52] schestowitz or invulnerable to the virus [22:52] schestowitz same for flight [22:52] schestowitz mandate test from past 3 days [22:52] DaemonFC None of them died, but one ended up in the hospital. [22:53] schestowitz more important than "apps" or "papers" for vaccines (which one? how many? when was last one?) [22:53] schestowitz [22:52] None of them died, but one ended up in the hospital. [22:53] schestowitz so stayed at work overnight ;) [22:54] DaemonFC No, it's a nursing home. [22:54] schestowitz ah, ok [22:54] DaemonFC And two of them worked in the kitchen. [22:54] schestowitz so the punchline failed [22:54] DaemonFC They take their masks off and talk to each other 1 foot apart. [22:54] DaemonFC Then they all have it. Meanwhile, mom's in there with a N95 respirator on telling them to get away from her. [22:55] DaemonFC The one that laughed was the one that ended up in the ICU. [22:55] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [22:55] DaemonFC She hasn't taken the vaccine, but she's been wearing N95 masks everywhere and using hand sanitizer and washing her hands like crazy. [22:56] techrights-news Blech. #phoronix is participating in #microsoft #openwashing (OCP). My respect for Michael is wearing thin. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVMe-HDD-Demoed [22:56] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVMe-HDD-Demoed [22:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVMe HDD Demoed At Open Compute Project Summit - Phoronix [22:57] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: in the pipeline they have medication [22:57] schestowitz-TR for mitigation [22:57] DaemonFC schestowitz, If they had spun up N95 mask production and made sure everyone got THOSE instead of this "vaccine", I think we'd have made more progress. [22:57] schestowitz-TR in case one gets it [22:57] schestowitz-TR no need to get ill with an injection 3 times a year "just in case" [22:57] schestowitz-TR so morality rates will improve [22:57] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: less money [22:58] schestowitz-TR the masks are cheaper [22:58] DaemonFC Yeah, but government perverts markets like mjg59 at an open source convention's bathroom. [22:58] schestowitz-TR you don't make 10 billion dollars a months selling plastics and/with cloth [22:58] DaemonFC "Free vaccine", meanwhile you're paying $100 a dose in your insurance premiums. [22:58] schestowitz-TR they cost cents to produce [22:59] schestowitz-TR the work was funded by us [22:59] schestowitz-TR and they get patents on them, [22:59] schestowitz-TR it's a heist [22:59] schestowitz-TR and the media won't talk about it [22:59] DaemonFC They have Big Bird marketing them to kids. [22:59] schestowitz-TR as that might "embolden" actual antivaxxers [22:59] DaemonFC 1 million kids, first week. [22:59] DaemonFC Murrica! ● Nov 10 [23:00] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [23:00] schestowitz-TR bird flu [23:00] schestowitz-TR Big Bird Flu [23:03] psydruid https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/big-sur-updates-take-hours-to-complete.2284313/ [23:03] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: macrumors.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/big-sur-updates-take-hours-to-complete.2284313/ [23:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.macrumors.com | Big Sur updates take hours to complete | MacRumors Forums [23:03] psydruid Big Sur Delay [23:03] techrights-news Online Community Planning Day for International Day Against DRM 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157755#comment-31742 [23:03] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:03] psydruid This is about as bad as Vista 10 updates were several years ago [23:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | DRM, Proprietary Software, and Security | Tux Machines [23:04] schestowitz [22:54] They take their masks off and talk to each other 1 foot apart. [23:04] psydruid And each application is being "verified" after installation [23:04] schestowitz you can kick people from more than 1 foot apart [23:05] DaemonFC They're stupid. [23:05] DaemonFC They hear vaccine and that's all they need. [23:06] techrights-news #apple makes sub-standard crap https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/big-sur-updates-take-hours-to-complete.2284313/ #proprietarySoftware #GAFAM #backdoors [23:06] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: macrumors.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/big-sur-updates-take-hours-to-complete.2284313/ [23:06] *activelow (~activelow@txkdaiuveepza.irc) has joined #techrights [23:07] techrights-news We don't know what #apple found out or what its pervert CEO thinks. Maybe they've come to expect a lot of Apple clients/customer base to be pedophiles? Maybe... [23:07] DaemonFC " The vast majority of this work is done in the background and you can continue to do whatever you want in the meantime. Personally I think this is a lot better than staring at the Apple logo for 45 minutes in Catalina." [23:08] DaemonFC You can do system updates with GNOME Software rebooting and telling systemd to pull them in, install them, and reboot again instead of launching GDM. [23:08] DaemonFC But why? [23:08] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [23:08] DaemonFC It's easier to point apt or dnf at the new repos, bring in the signing key for that release, and upgrade in the background. [23:08] techrights-news I never ever read a story about a #gnu #linux ot #bsd user who turned out to be a pedophile. Never. OTOH, #billgates personal engineer was amassing and spreading child porn (on Windows). Microsoft's media operatives were even caught raping kids, then arrested. [23:10] techrights-news There's this stereotype about pedophiles being infantile in the mind, thinking like kids, having mental development issues. For them, I suppose, just staying with #apple and #microsoft is manageable enough... [23:11] schestowitz DaemonFC: michael did a Microsoft story again [23:11] schestowitz https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVMe-HDD-Demoed [23:11] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVMe-HDD-Demoed [23:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVMe HDD Demoed At Open Compute Project Summit - Phoronix [23:11] schestowitz maybe he should ask Microsoft for an invite next time, [23:11] schestowitz surely he can figure out who runs this [23:11] schestowitz he even mentions it in his post [23:12] techrights-news Changing #Grafana Legends - Small Dropbear https://dropbear.xyz/2021/11/10/changing-grafana-legends/ #dropbear [23:12] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: dropbear.xyz | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://dropbear.xyz/2021/11/10/changing-grafana-legends/ [23:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dropbear.xyz | Changing Grafana Legends Small Dropbear [23:13] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [23:13] techrights-news #Shaark needs to #deletegithub https://medevel.com/shaark-keep-your-data-in-one-place/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [23:13] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/shaark-keep-your-data-in-one-place/ [23:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Shaark: Keep your bookmarks and data in one place [23:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [23:13] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:14] DaemonFC Hat trick! [23:16] *activelow (~activelow@ejbn8z296rjbk.irc) has joined #techrights [23:17] DaemonFC schestowitz, Amazon having certificate errors. [23:17] techrights-news #Hardware Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157786 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hardware Leftovers | Tux Machines [23:17] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: security!!! [23:17] schestowitz-TR check with CA [23:17] DaemonFC Oh god. An electric blanket with a phone app. [23:17] schestowitz-TR if not reachable or OUT OF DATE, COMPROMISED!!! [23:17] schestowitz-TR Red alert [23:17] schestowitz-TR the cert expired!! [23:18] schestowitz-TR Amazon has been hijacked, surely [23:18] DaemonFC https://www.amazon.com/Sunbeam-Connected-Heated-Mattress-Queen/dp/B08X25B4MP/ref=sr_1_8?keywords=electric+blanket&pldnSite=1&sr=8-8 [23:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon.com: Sunbeam Polyester Wi-Fi Connected Mattress Pad, Electric Blanket, 10 Heat Settings, Queen Size : Home & Kitchen [23:18] schestowitz-TR lol [23:18] schestowitz-TR smart [23:18] DaemonFC The Sunbeam app enables you to set a selectable auto-off timer for up to 10 hours and a scheduling option so you can get warmth when you want it [23:18] DaemonFC Use with Amazon Alexa or Google Assistant voice-enabled devices for easy use, even in the dark [23:18] schestowitz-TR about pillows... same? [23:19] schestowitz-TR smart pillows with microphones? [23:19] schestowitz-TR To "improve your sleeping experience?" [23:19] schestowitz-TR Alexa: "I see you had a good time last night" [23:19] DaemonFC Okay google. Turn blanket to maximum. [23:19] schestowitz-TR Alexa: "Amazon now has discounts on viagra for your "dynfunction"......' [23:20] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [23:20] techrights-news Christopher Davis: System76: A Case Study on How Not To Collaborate With Upstream Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157787 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Christopher Davis: System76: A Case Study on How Not To Collaborate With Upstream | Tux Machines [23:20] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: before you go to bed with someone ask them if there are microphones inside the bed [23:21] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:22] techrights-news "Another area where we make progress in #MicroOS is how to measure the health of our systems, detect remotely when an unauthorized change has been made (remote attestation), and actuate over it globally and as fast as possible." https://planet.opensuse.org/blog/2021-11-08-MicroOS-Keylime-TPM/ [23:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://planet.opensuse.org/blog/2021-11-08-MicroOS-Keylime-TPM/ ) [23:23] techrights-news #Graphics: Inline 2.0, #Zink, and #NVIDIA 470.86 Linux Driver Released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157788 #Linux #TuxMachines [23:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: Inline 2.0, Zink, and NVIDIA 470.86 Linux Driver Released | Tux Machines [23:24] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, https://vimeo.com/38790664 [23:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TSA Monitoring Guy on Vimeo [23:24] DaemonFC mjg59 be like [23:25] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [23:26] techrights-news #Graphics: Inline 2.0, Zink, and NVIDIA 470.86 Linux Driver Released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157788 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:26] *activelow (~activelow@qb3hy9zh9p2dy.irc) has joined #techrights [23:28] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Customers are complaining the blankets rip after a few weeks. [23:28] DaemonFC But at least they have Bluetooth and Wifi. [23:29] schestowitz-TR I am sure they can pass it on to their next blanket [23:29] schestowitz-TR our old blanket I now use for my feet [23:29] schestowitz-TR as we never turn on the heating [23:29] schestowitz-TR I can do better by layers and covering anyway [23:30] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [23:30] techrights-news #Febian and #Mozilla go way back, with endless troubles created by an incompetent upstream for #Firefox , which is getting worse by the hour. http://techrights.org/2021/11/10/firefox-esr-91-issues/ #gnu #linux [23:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Firefox ESR 91 Creating Massive Headache for Debian 11 (GNU/Linux) | Techrights [23:33] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:35] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [23:36] techrights-news Red Hat Satellite 6.9.7 has been released https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-satellite-697-has-been-released #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux [23:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Red Hat Satellite 6.9.7 has been released [23:37] *activelow (~activelow@r4fmhhyhij4qk.irc) has joined #techrights [23:40] techrights-news Civil society counters #BigTech in #Massachusetts #privacy debate - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/mipa/ #accessnow [23:40] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/mipa/ [23:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Civil society counters Big Tech in Massachusetts privacy debate - Access Now [23:40] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [23:41] techrights-news Gulag Summer of Work becomes more "inclusive" https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GSoC-2022-Changes [23:41] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GSoC-2022-Changes [23:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Makes Some Major Changes To Summer of Code 2022 - No Longer Limited To Students - Phoronix [23:41] techrights-news #Valve Delays #SteamDeck Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157789 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Valve Delays Steam Deck | Tux Machines [23:43] schestowitz DaemonFC: ads: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=framework-laptop&num=1 [23:43] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=framework-laptop&num=1 [23:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Framework Laptop Is Great For A Linux-Friendly, Upgradeable/Modular Laptop - Phoronix [23:43] schestowitz : [23:43] schestowitz :/ [23:43] schestowitz they don't even preload Linux [23:43] techrights-news #phoronix is running ads :/ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=framework-laptop&num=1 [23:43] -altlink_702/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=framework-laptop&num=1 [23:45] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [23:47] DaemonFC as we never turn on the heating [23:47] DaemonFC I haven't so far this year. [23:47] DaemonFC I keep it on low most of the harsher months. [23:48] techrights-news #SparkyLinux 6.1 is out https://sparkylinux.org/ #gnu #linux #debian #poland [23:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sparkylinux.org | SparkyLinux [23:48] schestowitz DaemonFC: if only more people did... [23:48] schestowitz unlike homer simpson in his diaper [23:50] *mib_smfrpd has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [23:51] techrights-news Due to trademarks, #lego and #disney charge you more than a dollar for each tiny piece of #plastic https://jmtd.net/log/lego_princess_castle_books/ [23:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jmtd.net | jmtd log LEGO Princess Castle-books [23:53] techrights-news Free and Online 2021 State of the Onion Slated for November 17 - FOSS Force https://fossforce.com/2021/11/free-and-online-2021-state-of-the-onion-slated-for-11-17/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=free-and-online-2021-state-of-the-onion-slated-for-11-17 #fossforce on #tor choosing "YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter" ( #surveillanceCapitalism ) @aral [23:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Free and Online '2021 State of the Onion' Slated for November 17 - FOSS Force [23:53] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157790 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [23:55] *mib_smfrpd (~4a6f7e65@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [23:57] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:59] techrights-news "There is a lot of drama right now in the Linux community involving various Linux desktops, including: GNOME, Budgie and Pop OS's Cosmic desktop." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OTY620NUdPk #video #invidious #multimedia #gnu #linux [23:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linux Desktop Kinda Stinks. How Did We Get Here? - Invidious