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| schestowitz | gm | Dec 10 03:10 |
| schestowitz | https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/the-road-to-software-freedom-is-paved-with-licensing | Dec 10 03:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | The road to software freedom is paved with licensing — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software | Dec 10 03:13 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The GPLv3 caused a mass exodus. | Dec 10 03:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now the Linux distributions are figuring out how to get away from GRUB. | Dec 10 03:17 |
| schestowitz | what you say is nonsense | Dec 10 03:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fedora's "kill Legacy BIOS support" feature is really about killing GRUB. They don't want to do any work on systemd-boot so that it will boot up on BIOS systems. | Dec 10 03:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And Lennart Poettering is all over that thread talking about switching to systemd-boot as part of the feature. | Dec 10 03:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My guess is that they just didn't want anything headline grabbing. | Dec 10 03:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | To be fair, if systemd-boot was a good idea, then writing special code to handle legacy BIOS wouldn't make much sense. | Dec 10 03:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because the systems that need it are all at least a decade or more old. | Dec 10 03:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But it makes no sense, on a technical level, to throw out GRUB, which already supports BIOS PCs. | Dec 10 03:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/QBANCA2UAJ5ZSMDVVARLIYAJE66TYTCD/ | Dec 10 03:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.fedoraproject.org | The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora. - devel - Fedora Mailing-Lists | Dec 10 03:21 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: This is lunacy. | Dec 10 03:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In another 5 years it might start to make sense as a "This is kind of bloated and it's a corner case now for Fedora.", but they used to try to support hardware for about 20 years. | Dec 10 03:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "This post is just to gather feed back why Fedora should still continue | Dec 10 03:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | to support legacy BIOS boot as opposed to stop supporting it and | Dec 10 03:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | potentially drop grub2 and use sd-boot instead." | Dec 10 03:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sure.... | Dec 10 03:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The decision is already either made, or getting there (in favor of killing off GRUB). | Dec 10 03:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's under the GPLv3 and I'm sure that's really what's at issue here. | Dec 10 03:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm just not seeing any strong technical arguments for this. | Dec 10 03:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Lennart Poettering is arguing for making a big fucking mess in the ESP by dumping kernels in it and making it larger. | Dec 10 03:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He also says that GRUB "stole" the term "boot loader specification". | Dec 10 03:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Resizing an ESP means risking the integrity of whatever OS the user already has installed. | Dec 10 03:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Unless you are only booting one operating system and if you trash it you can just recover by making a new one, you should leave it the hell alone. | Dec 10 03:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It may not even be possible to resize the ESP contiguously, and do we know that absolutely never causes a problem with any uEFI firmwares? If you don't dump kernels into it, you can just reuse the one that Windows already created. | Dec 10 03:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is also why I never dual boot a system, especially not with Windows. | Dec 10 03:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Something always goes wrong at some point, but this is the first time I think I've seen a Linux distribution proposing a change that would make it happen. | Dec 10 03:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/Mozilla-moves-out-of-Mountain-View-15786106.php | Dec 10 03:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mozilla moves out of Mountain View - SFChronicle.com | Dec 10 03:47 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, after you lay off 600 engineers so you can pay for people to turn it into adware, and a "Global Chief Diversity Officer", and Baker's ridiculous salary.... | Dec 10 03:48 |
| schestowitz | "Firefox is losing users. We have been for a while. Obviously, we want to turn this around. We started by setting a goal for 2020: Slow the loss of Firefox users." By spying on them!!! #mozilla #firefox https://blog.harterrt.com/cascading_metrics.html | Dec 10 03:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.harterrt.com – Leading with Data - Cascading Metrics | Dec 10 03:56 | |
| smnthermes | > DaemonFC[m] wrote: | Dec 10 04:18 |
| smnthermes | > Fedora's "kill Legacy BIOS support" feature is really about killing GRUB. They don't want to do any work on systemd-boot so that it will boot up on BIOS systems. | Dec 10 04:18 |
| smnthermes | systemd-coreutils and systemd-libc when? | Dec 10 04:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, there was a Linux fork of GNU libc before and it was a disaster. | Dec 10 04:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Linux libc", and they didn't keep logs of who contributed to it so it was a mess as far as figuring out who had the copyright. | Dec 10 04:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So when they adopted GNU libc again, everything in the Linux fork was lost. | Dec 10 04:19 |
| search_social | systemd-boot? haha | Dec 10 04:37 |
| search_social | i hope devuan survives | Dec 10 04:37 |
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| schestowitz | systemd-bootd | Dec 10 04:59 |
| schestowitz | it's not conquered until there's a d in it | Dec 10 04:59 |
| schestowitz | d for deutsch | Dec 10 04:59 |
| vZS1 | If you take technical advice from Red Hat there's already something very wrong with you | Dec 10 05:05 |
| vZS1 | These companies can hoodwink people all they like but they don't have the hackers to build things like early GNU did. | Dec 10 05:08 |
| search_social | there needs to be a master list of what's good and bad | Dec 10 05:08 |
| vZS1 | And some currently on GNU | Dec 10 05:08 |
| search_social | mainly just of what's good since it seems most things are bad | Dec 10 05:08 |
| vZS1 | Pointless. Who gets to decide what's good or bad? | Dec 10 05:08 |
| search_social | i meant techrights | Dec 10 05:09 |
| search_social | like you publish all these stories that describe such a list | Dec 10 05:09 |
| search_social | but one has to trawl through all the stories to figure out what it is | Dec 10 05:09 |
| schestowitz | use the wiki | Dec 10 05:09 |
| vZS1 | That's oversimplification | Dec 10 05:10 |
| schestowitz | e.g. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Startpage | Dec 10 05:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Startpage - Techrights | Dec 10 05:10 | |
| schestowitz | also, everything is a mix or bad and good | Dec 10 05:10 |
| vZS1 | ^ | Dec 10 05:10 |
| schestowitz | you need to understand the pertinent reasons | Dec 10 05:10 |
| schestowitz | just making some blanket 'blacklist' is not enough | Dec 10 05:10 |
| schestowitz | if you cannot argue to other people why boycott | Dec 10 05:10 |
| search_social | yeah that's good page | Dec 10 05:12 |
| search_social | well actually i think having a list of the good guys is more important | Dec 10 05:12 |
| search_social | like it says linux foundation is bad on that page so what's the alternative | Dec 10 05:12 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | +3,260 dead from COVID in the US yesterday. | Dec 10 07:52 |
| search_social | wrong | Dec 10 07:54 |
| search_social | "with" covid | Dec 10 07:54 |
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| schestowitz | x https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/the-office-of-internet-freedom-reborn-at-the-u-s-agency-for-global-media_3511380.html | Dec 10 11:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theepochtimes.com | US Agency for Global Media Reopens Office of Internet Freedom | Dec 10 11:52 | |
| schestowitz | # using FOSS funding for proprietary garbage | Dec 10 11:52 |
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| schestowitz | x https://telecom.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/view-instead-of-tiktok-microsoft-can-strike-a-discord/79654781 | Dec 10 11:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telecom.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Microsoft: View: Instead of TikTok, Microsoft can strike a Discord, Telecom News, ET Telecom | Dec 10 11:56 | |
| psydroid | <schestowitz "# using FOSS funding for proprie"> I've been thinking for quite a while that current power structures can't exist in the context of predominantly free software/society/culture, so there will always be forces that will seek to close functionalities and features off to the public at large | Dec 10 12:27 |
| psydroid | and eventually this also corrupts and reigns back in companies and organisations built on free software such as Red Hat, Canonical, Debian etc. | Dec 10 12:28 |
| psydroid | reins* | Dec 10 12:40 |
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| vZS1 | You can't stop people building products around Free Software | Dec 10 12:54 |
| vZS1 | The license permits out | Dec 10 12:54 |
| vZS1 | it* | Dec 10 12:54 |
| vZS1 | Because they can't own the code, orgs try to own the ecosystem. | Dec 10 12:55 |
| vZS1 | Think GNU/Linux distributions, etc | Dec 10 12:56 |
| vZS1 | distributions are actually pretty terrible for software freedom. Because users are pretty much forced to use whatever their distribution upstream decides on | Dec 10 12:59 |
| vZS1 | Control the distribution upstreams and you control users | Dec 10 13:01 |
| MinceR | distros don't seem to make it more difficult to build things from source manually | Dec 10 13:03 |
| MinceR | users just don't care | Dec 10 13:03 |
| MinceR | i guess it depends on what it is you're trying to install | Dec 10 13:05 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20080850 | Dec 10 13:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4811278) | Dec 10 13:16 | |
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| Slyly | Hello. I was wondering one thing about free software... So in order for a software to be `free`, you must be able to run, redistribute, study and modify it. | Dec 10 13:48 |
| Slyly | How does that apply to games, specifically multiplayer games. Where modifications to the game code would be cheating. | Dec 10 13:48 |
| psydroid | it applies to games just the same as it applies to any other software | Dec 10 13:53 |
| MinceR | modifications to the game code are not necessarily cheating | Dec 10 13:53 |
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| psydroid | disallowing modifications to games is a social thing imposed by a community (or a company in the case of proprietary games) | Dec 10 13:54 |
| Slyly | the ability (or disability) to redistribute is also a social thing? | Dec 10 13:57 |
| MinceR | it's partially legal | Dec 10 13:58 |
| Slyly | in the case of a online competitive game, if the person modified the game how can you tell it was not for getting unfair advantage? | Dec 10 13:59 |
| MinceR | it can be difficult to tell | Dec 10 13:59 |
| MinceR | and it can depend on how the community sees it | Dec 10 13:59 |
| Slyly | it is easier and cheaper to not allow it to be done. | Dec 10 13:59 |
| MinceR | but i'm pretty sure that e.g. Threewave CTF and the original TeamFortress are not cheats :> | Dec 10 14:00 |
| Slyly | at least in competitive play, I would require a checksum of the binaries | Dec 10 14:00 |
| MinceR | that can be difficult to verify | Dec 10 14:00 |
| MinceR | and it's possible to cheat without modifying the game | Dec 10 14:00 |
| MinceR | e.g. by inspecting its memory | Dec 10 14:00 |
| MinceR | some corporations make a business out of pretending that preventing cheating is easy, but it isn't | Dec 10 14:01 |
| Slyly | that is true. but just because there are other means of cheating, doesn't mean that eliminating another is not productive | Dec 10 14:01 |
| MinceR | eliminating mods would be unproductive | Dec 10 14:01 |
| Slyly | you don't need to eliminate mods, only prohibit their use in competitive play | Dec 10 14:02 |
| MinceR | what if someone wants to compete in playing a mod? | Dec 10 14:02 |
| MinceR | hell, there are mods that were created specifically for competitive play, like OSP | Dec 10 14:02 |
| Slyly | thats not sofware freedom it is competition guidelines and rules. just like F1 have restricitons | Dec 10 14:02 |
| MinceR | competition guidelines and rules do not constrain what you can do with the software outside competition, so i doubt it would infringe on software freedom | Dec 10 14:03 |
| MinceR | unless you were banned from using it outside competition :> | Dec 10 14:04 |
| Slyly | well, many games wouldn't exist, not even in a similar fashion if they had to be free software. Becuase the business model wouldn't work | Dec 10 14:05 |
| MinceR | too bad | Dec 10 14:06 |
| MinceR | they would be more useful if they were free | Dec 10 14:06 |
| MinceR | and the community could develop them into something better | Dec 10 14:06 |
| Slyly | yeah but quality is sometimes costy and the community many times lacks focus. like 0AD it seems it will never leave alpha | Dec 10 14:08 |
| MinceR | Xonotic is great thougjh | Dec 10 14:08 |
| MinceR | s/jh/h/ | Dec 10 14:08 |
| Slyly | but how about FFXIV and World of Warcraft. I think they classify more as art than as software hence it is a good reason to have them as closed source. At least their engines should been opensource and free | Dec 10 14:10 |
| MinceR | most games are a combination of art and software | Dec 10 14:10 |
| MinceR | including many free ones | Dec 10 14:10 |
| MinceR | an MMO can be difficult to run as free software though | Dec 10 14:11 |
| MinceR | since part of the challenge is building up stats on someone else's computer | Dec 10 14:11 |
| MinceR | (which is the main reason i'm not interested in MMOs) | Dec 10 14:11 |
| Slyly | yes, but the artist or commissioner has the choice on whether to share the art for free or not. Like any art. And neigher decision is wrong or right. | Dec 10 14:11 |
| MinceR | indeed | Dec 10 14:12 |
| MinceR | one way, they're unlikely to get paid well, the other way, their art will be less useful | Dec 10 14:12 |
| MinceR | afaik Morphed did get paid for making some models for Xonotic though | Dec 10 14:13 |
| Slyly | I think there could be a process like the art/game would be proprietary for a length of time. but as they get old they become free. | Dec 10 14:13 |
| MinceR | id used to do something like that | Dec 10 14:13 |
| MinceR | but they're dead | Dec 10 14:13 |
| MinceR | and in their case, only the code became free, the assets didn't | Dec 10 14:14 |
| Slyly | well, sometimes the assets were bought in way they could not redistribute it as-is | Dec 10 14:15 |
| Slyly | only derivative works. | Dec 10 14:15 |
| MinceR | if only derivative works are included in the game, those might be free then | Dec 10 14:16 |
| Slyly | the game is the derivative work, but giving access to the raw assests would be breaking the contract | Dec 10 14:16 |
| MinceR | where would assets (e.g. textures or sound effects) that are derivatives of the original bought assets stand? | Dec 10 14:17 |
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| Slyly | maybe the assets were already bought as texture and sound effects. | Dec 10 14:18 |
| Slyly | and just because you crop a image, it does not make it a derivative work. just a partial reproduction | Dec 10 14:19 |
| Slyly | guess there is a blurred line between what's derivative and just mild modification | Dec 10 14:20 |
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| MinceR | dunno, i'm not a lawyer | Dec 10 14:21 |
| Slyly | guess that's just common sense, you cant claim it is derivative work if you just removed a few pixels and changed the color a bit. | Dec 10 14:22 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20080817 | Dec 10 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4810123) | Dec 10 14:29 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20080721 | Dec 10 14:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4807790) | Dec 10 14:39 | |
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| vZS1 | Slyly: nobody is stopping people from making proprietary games. I buy games and still support "free software". | Dec 10 14:48 |
| vZS1 | Test | Dec 10 14:49 |
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| vZS1 | Slyly: real freedom means the user can decide about what they put on their machines. Proprietary or something like GPL. | Dec 10 14:50 |
| vZS1 | I buy proprietary games but I also support GPL software. They're not mutually exclusive | Dec 10 14:51 |
| vZS1 | Guess you could call it "freedom of choice". | Dec 10 14:53 |
| oiaohm | vZS1: some games have been more propietary than others there are quite a list of games that were proprietary that don't work at all any more that were only releaed in the last 5 years. | Dec 10 14:56 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/13/d4aa69adfb4bc390.jpg | Dec 10 15:03 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/2008077 | Dec 10 16:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4807573) | Dec 10 16:07 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: huh? | Dec 10 16:08 |
| MinceR | "ammonia cleaner" -> "i'm only a cleaner" | Dec 10 16:08 |
| XRevan86 | But there's no l | Dec 10 16:09 |
| MinceR | people often slur phonemes | Dec 10 16:10 |
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| XRevan86 | Could be "I'm owning a cleaner" | Dec 10 16:15 |
| MinceR | i'm pwning a cleaner | Dec 10 16:16 |
| MinceR | https://www.theonion.com/facebook-announces-plan-to-break-up-u-s-government-bef-1844121902 | Dec 10 16:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com | Facebook Announces Plan To Break Up U.S. Government Before It Becomes Too Powerful | Dec 10 16:18 | |
| XRevan86 | I expected "that's what she said", but close enough. | Dec 10 16:19 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 10 16:20 |
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| MinceR | https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/11/bbb94056abd3adab.jpg | Dec 10 16:41 |
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| vZS1 | I'm oni, a cleaner | Dec 10 17:19 |
| vZS1 | 👹 | Dec 10 17:19 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 10 17:20 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | James Carville, Bill Clinton's campaign manager in 1992 and 1996, was in New Orleans this year where tons of people were dying of COVID, telling CNN "Nobody's going to vote for four more years of this.". | Dec 10 19:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody voted for 4 seconds of Windows 10 S, so Microsoft made it a "Mode" where it's basically Jerry Daycare. | Dec 10 19:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://rickandmorty.fandom.com/wiki/Jerryboree | Dec 10 19:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rickandmorty.fandom.com | Jerryboree | Rick and Morty Wiki | Fandom | Dec 10 19:23 | |
| liberty_box | https://jonathancarter.org/?p=10876 - "I will spend my days making sure the world knows that REDHAT is a bunch of greedy wankers. I will also completely move away from Centos. And instead, go with a whole new OS. Probably Debian. P.s Screw you RedHat." | Dec 10 19:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jonathancarter.org | CentOS Stream, or Debian? | Jonathan Carter | Dec 10 19:41 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Black tears“I wasn’t happy with what happened to their KDE SIG,” he said. “One person who has been there from the KDE on Red Hat beginning (Rex Dieter)” got banned, “and [what remains is] a few part timers who mostly use Edge on Windows 10.”" | Dec 10 19:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, schestowitz , I think I said one person (Rex Dieter) is left. | Dec 10 19:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But the rest is correct. | Dec 10 19:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's really no IBM interest in KDE at all, except that I was told that they allow Red Hat to kick in some money. But why? How much? For how long? | Dec 10 19:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | None of their products use it, or even offer it anymore. If it is theoretically possible to install KDE on RHEL you'd be completely unsupported so there's no businesses who are going to bother. The whole point with corporations is that they're extremely conservative with risk (to themselves) and will not touch something if there's no support contract, whether they need one of not, whether the software actually has | Dec 10 19:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | more or fewer bugs than something that doesn't have a support contract. | Dec 10 19:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Red Hat, iirc, threw out KDE as an option right before the IBM merger. Companies that are looking to be acquired cut their expenses to the bone, and letting customers file tickets against two desktop environments when probably 90% took GNOME because it was the default is an "expense" that is "not justified" when you're a CEO. | Dec 10 19:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ubuntu isn't as hostile to other desktop environments, but they're not supported by Canonical. | Dec 10 19:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Main repo is supported and it has everything that comes with the Ubuntu spin, including the majority of GNOME. | Dec 10 19:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So when distributions are only offering support contracts and full product lifecycles to GNOME users, people gravitate to GNOME even if they don't like it very much. | Dec 10 19:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think that's how they managed to rope Linus Torvalds into using it again. | Dec 10 19:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Instead of throwing KDE out, maybe Red Hat should have looked into GNOME bankrupting itself with reverse sexism, trying to bring in female interns by paying them, only them, not men. | Dec 10 19:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In fact, if Red Hat itself did something like that, it would be slapped down so hard when it got into a US courtroom. | Dec 10 19:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The project basically threw all its money away on Outreach to Women instead of investing in the software, and then Red Hat had to bail them out with a cash infusion. That should have been incredibly embarrassing for them, but they committed themselves to GNOME a long time ago and now they have to deal with this disgusting SJW crap where how much you have to do for yourself to get into the software industry depends on | Dec 10 19:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | whether your sex organs are internal or external. | Dec 10 19:54 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Then GNOME ratified a Code of Conduct, after the bailout, where they codified their anti-male and anti-white policies. | Dec 10 19:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: So Microsoft is winning the "Cold War" against Linux, not so much with technical sabotage, but letting in the Lunatic Left and Pointy Haired Bosses to destroy it from within. | Dec 10 19:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Despite serious misgivings about the COVID-19 vaccines, I registered to be notified when we can make an appointment. | Dec 10 20:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I noticed that a couple people in the UK had a severe allergic reaction, but they did not say to what component and how many people had gotten the vaccine. | Dec 10 20:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're just adding a warning to not give it to people who need to carry an EpiPen. | Dec 10 20:05 |
| smnthermes | https://daniel-lange.com/archives/166-No-dog-food-today-the-Linux-Foundation-annual-report.html | Dec 10 20:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-daniel-lange.com | No dog food today - the Linux Foundation annual report | Daniel Lange's blog | Dec 10 20:27 | |
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| schestowitz | 1,995 us deaths so far, DaemonFC[m] | Dec 10 20:42 |
| schestowitz | around midday in CA | Dec 10 20:42 |
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| schestowitz | tr_guest|27175: hi | Dec 10 20:44 |
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| schestowitz | [19:45] <DaemonFC[m]> No, schestowitz , I think I said one person (Rex Dieter) is left. | Dec 10 20:44 |
| schestowitz | It did feel wrong | Dec 10 20:45 |
| schestowitz | wrong name | Dec 10 20:45 |
| schestowitz | will fix | Dec 10 20:45 |
| schestowitz | got Koffler banned, | Dec 10 20:45 |
| schestowitz | fixed | Dec 10 20:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Thanks, I just wanted to point that out since you said people are looking for mistakes to hit you with. | Dec 10 21:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Better that we find them first. | Dec 10 21:00 |
| MinceR | >whole new >debian | Dec 10 21:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I might redo that hard drive's file system again. | Dec 10 21:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | ExFAT really sucks, but it's become the common language between the three major operating systems, with read/write support. | Dec 10 21:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Linux does understand NTFS, but the journaling format is undocumented. | Dec 10 21:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I don't think Linux updates the journal and it just gets updated the next time you plug it into a Windows system. | Dec 10 21:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That ExFAT FUSE driver was terrible. | Dec 10 21:02 |
| MinceR | a patent-encumbered "common language". just what we wanted. | Dec 10 21:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I will probably eventually start using an external SSD if the price falls enough. | Dec 10 21:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This hard drive should suffice for a few more years. | Dec 10 21:05 |
| MinceR | also, afaik there's no way nor point to updating a journal after the transaction finished | Dec 10 21:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, it can become inconsistent and then you have a different problem. | Dec 10 21:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And passing NTFS volumes between different versions of Windows can do that too. | Dec 10 21:06 |
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| MinceR | transactions that were made without journaling support will work fine if they can finish and will result in an inconsistent filesystem if they can't | Dec 10 21:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So what to do about those external drives that come formatted NTFS? | Dec 10 21:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just use them in Linux like that if you need to share data with a Windows system? | Dec 10 21:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think the read/write driver is FUSE. Blecth. | Dec 10 21:10 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The major point of an external hard drive is backing up huge files that I can't fit on the SSD. | Dec 10 21:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've noticed that, in general, compressing video game folders has been netting me about a 15% space savings on average. | Dec 10 21:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Obviously, there's no reason to compress the entire game folder structure, but most of them separate the MP3s or whatever that won't compress well into their own folder. | Dec 10 21:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I noticed that Windows Update doesn't bother bringing your Intel chipset and graphics drivers up to anything current and puts them under optional updates instead. | Dec 10 21:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Intel released new graphics drivers specifically for Windows 10 20H2 and it brings huge performance improvements and new hardware decode profiles that Windows doesn't even bother to install if you just leave it alone. | Dec 10 21:17 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20201209/03061645849/german-court-orders-encrypted-email-service-tutanota-to-backdoor-one-account.shtml | Dec 10 21:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-German Court Orders Encrypted Email Service Tutanota To Backdoor One Account | Techdirt | Dec 10 21:22 | |
| MinceR | 10 220726 < DaemonFC[m]> So what to do about those external drives that come formatted NTFS? | Dec 10 21:27 |
| MinceR | i reformat them to ext4 | Dec 10 21:27 |
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| schestowitz | " | Dec 10 21:44 |
| schestowitz | New puff piece in les echos | Dec 10 21:44 |
| schestowitz | Dear Roy, | Dec 10 21:44 |
| schestowitz | I have discovered a new puff piece in the official fake news partner of the epo. | Dec 10 21:44 |
| schestowitz | https://www.lesechos.fr/industrie-services/services-conseils/brevets-la-france-sur-le-podium-europeen-de-la-nouvelle-revolution-industrielle-1272616 | Dec 10 21:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lesechos.fr | Brevets : la France sur le podium européen de la nouvelle révolution industrielle | Les Echos | Dec 10 21:44 | |
| schestowitz | While the redhead drug addict oppresses the staff, he plays the hero in the press. The Germans would call his behaviour "Selbstbefriedigung". | Dec 10 21:44 |
| schestowitz | Best regards, | Dec 10 21:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 10 21:44 |
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| vZS1 | schestowitz: no surprise there | Dec 10 22:06 |
| schestowitz | writing about it now | Dec 10 22:12 |
| schestowitz | this is press/urgent | Dec 10 22:12 |
| schestowitz | media blackout | Dec 10 22:12 |
| schestowitz | if I can still use that term | Dec 10 22:12 |
| schestowitz | we're the only one covering these scandals | Dec 10 22:12 |
| schestowitz | so we get all the leaks, we earned trust | Dec 10 22:12 |
| vZS1 | schestowitz: I was referring to the email service news item. Btw | Dec 10 22:40 |
| vZS1 | Good to see more whistleblowing coming in from EPO staff | Dec 10 22:41 |
| schestowitz | it is published now | Dec 10 22:43 |
| schestowitz | the above was too raw | Dec 10 22:43 |
| schestowitz | edited a bit | Dec 10 22:43 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I'm puzzled by you mentioning Android 2.x regarding Let's Encrypt moving to their own root certificate from the soon to be expired IdenTrust's one. | Dec 10 22:44 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: There's no contemporary encryption their anyway, it's not like it can make use of TLS at all. | Dec 10 22:45 |
| schestowitz | CIPA President. Amplifying patent litigation extremists from CIPA, who actively promote what's illegal and unconstitutional for financial gain while public supporting criminals | Dec 10 22:49 |
| schestowitz | http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/12/10/vico-for-oral-proceedings-at-the-epo-cipas-view/ | Dec 10 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | ViCo for Oral Proceedings at the EPO – CIPA’s view - Kluwer Patent Blog | Dec 10 22:49 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: maybe more recent fail as well | Dec 10 22:49 |
| schestowitz | like android 5-7 | Dec 10 22:49 |
| schestowitz | android has a release version/bum inflation almost every year | Dec 10 22:50 |
| schestowitz | and let's assume people people can make calls on 10-20 year old phones | Dec 10 22:50 |
| schestowitz | if they're even made to last that long anymore | Dec 10 22:50 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Android 5.0-7.0 are affected and relevant, yes. | Dec 10 22:51 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: But it's Android in general that is designed in such a way that things like ca-certificates cannot be updated without tools like Magisk. | Dec 10 22:54 |
| XRevan86 | They've introduced APEX, maybe in the future they'll use that magical hack to update them, who knows. | Dec 10 22:55 |
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