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| XRevan86 | psydread: It's a miracle this pile of complexity even works at all. | Feb 11 00:00 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Most people seem to turn the search box off meaning it's another thing that gets in the way of setting up a new computer. | Feb 11 00:00 |
| XRevan86 | Human potential spent on maintaining and building on a house of cards. | Feb 11 00:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Break shit and make it 10 times bigger with things that nobody will ever use. | Feb 11 00:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's Microsoft's development methodology. | Feb 11 00:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In addition to three web browsers welded into Windows 10, there's three different terminals that mostly replicate each other. | Feb 11 00:02 |
| MinceR | 10 235856 < psydread> I really wonder how a company like Microsoft with so many smart but sociopathic people can be so bad at creating products | Feb 11 00:02 |
| MinceR | who are these smart people? | Feb 11 00:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody will allow cmd.exe to be expanded. There was PowerShell which they gave up on that's still there. Now there's Windows Terminal. | Feb 11 00:03 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Two terminals, the third one doesn't come pre-installed. | Feb 11 00:03 |
| MinceR | the only smart people i'm aware of who ever worked for them was drobbins | Feb 11 00:03 |
| MinceR | and he quit | Feb 11 00:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It will be. | Feb 11 00:03 |
| MinceR | s/people/person/ | Feb 11 00:03 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: IIRC, it will still use powershell, no? | Feb 11 00:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who cares, honestly. | Feb 11 00:04 |
| XRevan86 | I'd imagine that killing off powershell's GUI thing won't be that problematic. | Feb 11 00:04 |
| MinceR | the patent trap is more problematic | Feb 11 00:04 |
| MinceR | powerhell depends on the botNET framework | Feb 11 00:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Windows 10 is buckling under its own weight and takes so much effort to just barely keep it working, that Chromebooks are flying off the shelves now. | Feb 11 00:04 |
| MinceR | the "objects" it uses also depend on it | Feb 11 00:05 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Problematic not for Microsoft. | Feb 11 00:05 |
| MinceR | oh, i have no idea what's problematic for them | Feb 11 00:05 |
| XRevan86 | Well, we're talking about them pulling weight of their own legacy | Feb 11 00:05 |
| MinceR | also, does Windows Terminal come with its own shell, then? | Feb 11 00:05 |
| XRevan86 | Like a myriad of browser engines that are still included and will be supported indefinitely. | Feb 11 00:06 |
| psydread | MinceR, maybe Dave Cutler, Rick Rashid and Raymond Chen, I don't know about others | Feb 11 00:06 |
| MinceR | ah yes, Raymond Chen did seem to make some sense | Feb 11 00:06 |
| MinceR | i don't know about Rick Rashid | Feb 11 00:06 |
| MinceR | and i wonder if there's a field in which Dave Cutler demonstrated competence | Feb 11 00:06 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That would require bothering to check %). | Feb 11 00:06 |
| MinceR | because software engineering certainly isn't one | Feb 11 00:07 |
| MinceR | although i'm sure he'd get along with lennart poettering very well | Feb 11 00:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No random malware processes, broken bits of goo leftover from anything that's ever touched the file system, broken upgrades, spaghetti features that were tossed in with no user input that bloat it and never get used by anyone, willingly. | Feb 11 00:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, "Linux is hard to use". Has anyone looked at Windows 10 lately? Have ya? | Feb 11 00:07 |
| XRevan86 | IIRC, that's powershell + WSL integration. | Feb 11 00:08 |
| psydread | Rick Rashid worked on Mach, if that means anything | Feb 11 00:08 |
| MinceR | i've heard that even if they manage to pick up some capable people, microsoft is organized in a way that effectively prevents them from getting anything constructive done | Feb 11 00:08 |
| MinceR | ah, yes, it does | Feb 11 00:08 |
| MinceR | pity Mach has failed and Viengoos died | Feb 11 00:08 |
| psydread | I still don't know what happened to Viengoos | Feb 11 00:09 |
| MinceR | didn't the guy who was developing it stop working on it or disappear or something like that? | Feb 11 00:10 |
| psydread | and he never put his code in any repository for others to look at? | Feb 11 00:10 |
| psydread | Neal Walfield or what was his name? | Feb 11 00:11 |
| MinceR | i don't know, i haven't looked into it that much | Feb 11 00:11 |
| MinceR | since when i found out about Viengoos it was already allegedly dead | Feb 11 00:11 |
| MinceR | and then apparently the HURD project decided that they did want a massive single point of failure after all | Feb 11 00:12 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Can you elaborate on that? | Feb 11 00:12 |
| MinceR | https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/open_issues/systemd.html | Feb 11 00:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | systemd | Feb 11 00:13 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | JWZ recently got poked in the eye by Apple a bunch, including his expensive Mac randomly freezing up, years of work creating iTunes playlists for his club in San Francisco that will never function again, and the kicker is that Apple emailed him about a bug he filed 16 _years_ ago on Mac OS with a thing saying they were closing the bug because Macs have "changed a lot since then". | Feb 11 00:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Of course that will be impossible to reproduce if it was hardware specific because Apple doesn't even support their computers for 4 years after they hit the shelf. | Feb 11 00:14 |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 11 00:14 |
| MinceR | i think he'll demonstrate cognitive dissonance for us | Feb 11 00:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is exactly what he was complaining about that time GNOME emailed him saying they were closing the bug because GNOME 2 was out. | Feb 11 00:15 |
| MinceR | the CADT model | Feb 11 00:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Of course, I doubt that he ever paid GNOME $4,000 for a computer every 3 years, so at least they didn't fuck him after he paid them a lot of money. | Feb 11 00:16 |
| MinceR | which is why he could decide that relying on GNOME was a mistake | Feb 11 00:16 |
| MinceR | i suspect he sank too much money and interest and face into crApple to admit to himself that it was a mistake | Feb 11 00:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Exactly what I hate doing the most is moving everything over to another computer because 36 entire months went by since I last paid some greedy corporation 2,000 miles away any money, but it's neck and neck with Apple's expectation that I'll put all my data in their "cloud" where they can revoke my access to it and possibly give it over to the government to use against me someday. | Feb 11 00:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You couldn't scoop out enough of my brains to make me buy an Apple product. | Feb 11 00:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oddly, 36 months is the interest free financing term that most electronics stores offer you on Apple stuff, so the idea is they only support it until the payments end, and then you can either finance another one indefinitely or go pound sand. | Feb 11 00:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most people finance because Apple's computers that are actually powerful enough to run software, and especially the ones with enough storage to do anything locally, cost more than most cars I've driven. | Feb 11 00:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're about to cut even more costs on the production with AMD processors, which are cheaper. But there's 0% chance of the price of the Mac going down at retail. | Feb 11 00:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you're really hard up for cash and go in and buy the cheapest piece of junk at Walmart, it'll have an AMD processor. So the fact that Apple is adding AMD CPU support to Mac OS is just all kinds of funny. | Feb 11 00:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | AMD processors have historically had more bugs than Intel. Remember the original Phenom's TLB bug where the fix was disabling the TLB with a BIOS update and taking a 10% hit. | Feb 11 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That was actually worse than Meltdown. | Feb 11 00:29 |
| MinceR | i remember the K5 having troubles with Quake | Feb 11 00:29 |
| MinceR | especially with Quake 1.08 | Feb 11 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Probably | Feb 11 00:29 |
| psydread | my desktop computers throughout the 2000s all had AMD processors.They were cheaper but the main reason I built them was that Intel reserved virtualisation extensions for their much more expensive processors the sane wt they have been doing with AVX-512 | Feb 11 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've used some AMD processors. | Feb 11 00:30 |
| psydread | and yes, I waited for the fixed Phenom | Feb 11 00:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, the unadvertised feature of one of the Semprons I got in 2004 was it supported x86-64, but it came with Windows XP. | Feb 11 00:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When I removed XP and installed Linux, the x86-64 version of Ubuntu ran fine. | Feb 11 00:30 |
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| psydread | the same way* | Feb 11 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A couple years later, I picked up an open box socket 754 Athlon64 3200+ and dropped it in. | Feb 11 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was about 25% faster than the Sempron 3100+. | Feb 11 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mainly due to more cache memory, but also slightly higher clock speed. | Feb 11 00:32 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | It was just the chip, but the existing heatsink worked fine. | Feb 11 00:32 |
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| schestowitz__ | [21:50] <MinceR> https://files.catbox.moe/u0vstp.jpg | Feb 11 00:46 |
| schestowitz__ | bingo | Feb 11 00:46 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/19121751 | Feb 11 00:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Feb 11 00:50 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | People who install a Ring deserve however the data ends up being used against them, but random people being recorded by it don't. | Feb 11 00:51 |
| schestowitz__ | [18:19] <DaemonFC[m]> Apparently, Fox News is using Google's Funding Choices now. | Feb 11 00:53 |
| schestowitz__ | [18:20] <DaemonFC[m]> It tries to to detect an ad blocker and demand 5 cents per viewed page. | Feb 11 00:53 |
| schestowitz__ | Paying to be lied to | Feb 11 00:53 |
| MinceR | well, the sort of people who tend to watch Faux News are the sort of people who'd be willing to pay for that | Feb 11 00:55 |
| schestowitz__ | some lack the money I think | Feb 11 00:56 |
| schestowitz__ | Fox viewers and boosters I know aren't too bright | Feb 11 00:56 |
| schestowitz__ | then again, maybe they can toss cents in | Feb 11 00:56 |
| schestowitz__ | [00:51] <DaemonFC[m]> People who install a Ring deserve however the data ends up being used against them, but random people being recorded by it don't. | Feb 11 00:56 |
| schestowitz__ | Don't visit their houses | Feb 11 00:57 |
| schestowitz__ | they are antisocial | Feb 11 00:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | To be fair, are Fox News viewers smart enough to install an ad blocker in the first place? | Feb 11 00:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's probably just something they have there to bump revenue up a little bit on the off chance. | Feb 11 00:57 |
| MinceR | unlikely | Feb 11 00:57 |
| schestowitz__ | the blue e has a blocker | Feb 11 00:58 |
| schestowitz__ | ? | Feb 11 00:58 |
| MinceR | and it's probably cheaper to serve a paywall to other people rather than the full page | Feb 11 00:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | > they are antisocial | Feb 11 00:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No shit. Met the in-laws have you? | Feb 11 00:59 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 11 00:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They think punishing the kids means turning off the wifi to the iPad for an hour. | Feb 11 00:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they've raised two rotten kids just like themselves. | Feb 11 00:59 |
| schestowitz__ | if they rot too much, they can become compost ://// | Feb 11 01:00 |
| MinceR | they'll become compost anyway :> | Feb 11 01:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're just unbelievably pretentious and narcissistic. | Feb 11 01:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Totally off the charts. | Feb 11 01:00 |
| MinceR | unless our omnicidal project on Earth works out better than expected and soon enough, that is | Feb 11 01:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Machiavellian Personality Disorder, all of them. | Feb 11 01:01 |
| MinceR | i didn't know that existed | Feb 11 01:02 |
| MinceR | now i know about the Dark Triad :> | Feb 11 01:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: My ex accused me of being a Machiavellian type. | Feb 11 01:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | To be fair, he's probably right, but when I saw how my in-laws act I was like "Holy fucking jumping shitballs.". | Feb 11 01:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We need a new scale for these people. | Feb 11 01:05 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 11 01:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I remembered that episode of Married With Children where Al walks in with a bucket of fried chicken. | Feb 11 01:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | His mother in law shouts "I smell fowl!". He says, "I wasn't going to say anything.". | Feb 11 01:09 |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 11 01:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My husband asked me who some guy on my Facebook was. | Feb 11 01:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Someone in California.". | Feb 11 01:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He says, "Your fuck buddy.". | Feb 11 01:16 |
| MinceR | and then? | Feb 11 01:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Yeah, I've been driving from Chicago to Fresno while you're at school. Sure it's a couple thousand miles but if you just wear a diaper and pretend you work for Amazon it really cuts down the travel time.". | Feb 11 01:18 |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 11 01:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like everything I say, it flew over his head until I grinned. | Feb 11 01:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It takes the old English<>Tagalog thing a while to work, I guess. | Feb 11 01:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He told me he has to think about what people say and process it in Tagalog. | Feb 11 01:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then there's a delay before he replies sometimes. | Feb 11 01:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: It was worse when I had just married him. | Feb 11 01:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Asshole Residence speaks Tagalog internally | Feb 11 01:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And they don't associate with people from outside their group too much. So they look at me like a space alien because they avoid dealing with white people if they can. | Feb 11 01:23 |
| MinceR | so how's your Tagalog? :> | Feb 11 01:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not good. | Feb 11 01:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I tried to say a greeting and ended up offending his sister because it was in the form that you would address a very old woman. | Feb 11 01:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then I had to go on an Apology Tour because they threatened to have him deported because they didn't like something I said about Apple on my own Facebook wall. | Feb 11 01:24 |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 11 01:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Dealing with those shitheads is like that episode of Enterprise where they keep doing something to offend a bunch of aliens and can't figure it out and there's some bizarre apology ritual at the end where Archer has to stand on one leg and cut down a tree with a chainsaw. | Feb 11 01:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He says, "This isn't really so bad. I would have thought they'd make me read The Night Before Christmas too.". | Feb 11 01:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They were also angry because I posted a video of Scotty Kilmer about everything that goes wrong with BMWs. | Feb 11 01:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Half the video was him talking about those stupid run flat tires that crack a rim every time you hit a pothole. | Feb 11 01:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He said the guy spent $10,000 in repairs just keeping it running for 40,000 miles and then gave up and sold it for $10,000. | Feb 11 01:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My Impala has 266,000 miles on it. | Feb 11 01:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It makes some funny noises here and there, but it runs. | Feb 11 01:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I had 20 things go wrong with it over the last 6,000 miles. | Feb 11 01:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But it worked out to about $4,000 in repairs. | Feb 11 01:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Probably the worst one was the wheel bearing being so bad that my left front wheel was about to come off. | Feb 11 01:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The power steering rack started leaking. | Feb 11 01:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Swapped that. | Feb 11 01:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Did a lot of stuff. | Feb 11 01:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now I'm just turning up the radio and trying to not worry about the noise those cheap tires are making. | Feb 11 01:34 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 11 01:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I had my mechanic look over all of it and he just said the tires are wearing a little funny in the back, but the alignment is good, the wheels are balanced, and there's nothing wrong with the struts. | Feb 11 01:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You don't want to get into struts on a car that old. | Feb 11 01:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Cheap struts usually end up being worse than the 17 year old ones they took off. | Feb 11 01:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I was over at his sister's house on Thanksgiving. | Feb 11 01:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then they made an obscene phone call ranting in a mixture of English and Mars Attacks. | Feb 11 01:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | About how I was apparently trying to get their stupid dog to bite me so I could sue them. | Feb 11 01:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then they get really mad when I just calmly said, in disbelief, "Paranoia is a way of life for you people, isn't it?". | Feb 11 01:41 |
| MinceR | Happiness is Mandatory. | Feb 11 01:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Jesus. Life isn't that hard. | Feb 11 01:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You wake up, you eat, you take one or two good shits, and then you sleep again. | Feb 11 01:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Figure the rest out on the fly. | Feb 11 01:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I guess they're so wrapped up in material possessions and running on a treadmill to keep the bill collectors from suing them for being Fake Rich that they really are that strung out. | Feb 11 01:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If Donald Trump didn't include them on the Shithole Countries list, they'd be voting for him. | Feb 11 01:44 |
| schestowitz__ | overspending makes life hard | Feb 11 01:44 |
| schestowitz__ | and credit card (debt) companies work to ensure you borrow from th e future | Feb 11 01:44 |
| schestowitz__ | to impress your fake friends who don't even like you | Feb 11 01:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes. I no longer have enough to be worth suing though. | Feb 11 01:44 |
| schestowitz__ | Mandy might or might not be like that | Feb 11 01:44 |
| schestowitz__ | the Pinoys I know vary | Feb 11 01:44 |
| schestowitz__ | some buy consumerism crap | Feb 11 01:45 |
| schestowitz__ | to keep up illusion of class | Feb 11 01:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, these are his sister's family. | Feb 11 01:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not him. | Feb 11 01:45 |
| schestowitz__ | some, the rural ones, are more traditional | Feb 11 01:45 |
| schestowitz__ | she bought apple | Feb 11 01:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The illusion of class. Bingo. | Feb 11 01:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're trash with money. | Feb 11 01:45 |
| schestowitz__ | class insecurity/consciousness | Feb 11 01:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's all they are. Fucking trash with money. Talking about these four in particular. | Feb 11 01:46 |
| schestowitz__ | 199% chromebooks with dual boot linux would suit most people | Feb 11 01:46 |
| schestowitz__ | [17:35] <schestowitz__> > IIRC you mentioned something about fixing a Chromebook recently. Can I | Feb 11 01:46 |
| schestowitz__ | [17:35] <schestowitz__> > ask how? I've got a 15" Acer Chromebook that I'd like to completely | Feb 11 01:46 |
| schestowitz__ | [17:35] <schestowitz__> > erase and replace entirely with GNU/Linux. | Feb 11 01:46 |
| schestowitz__ | [17:35] <schestowitz__> dual-boot using the simple manual in chrx.org | Feb 11 01:46 |
| schestowitz__ | I meant 199$ | Feb 11 01:46 |
| schestowitz__ | new keyboard | Feb 11 01:46 |
| schestowitz__ | so different layout | Feb 11 01:46 |
| schestowitz__ | $199 even | Feb 11 01:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The $179 ASUS one works fine for my husband. | Feb 11 01:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The screen isn't the best, but it's $179. What do you want? Works fine. | Feb 11 01:47 |
| schestowitz__ | yup | Feb 11 01:47 |
| schestowitz__ | sounds like a modest person, not social climber | Feb 11 01:47 |
| schestowitz__ | my new laptop has high res screen | Feb 11 01:47 |
| schestowitz__ | never seen these before | Feb 11 01:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In 5 years when it's discontinued, buy another one. | Feb 11 01:47 |
| schestowitz__ | 13 or 14 inch, 1920 pixels across | Feb 11 01:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You don't have to be furious that you paid $3,000 for a Macbook and it's finished in 3 years. | Feb 11 01:48 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: laptops are not discontinued | Feb 11 01:48 |
| schestowitz__ | google can be removed from them | Feb 11 01:48 |
| schestowitz__ | my HP laptop is 11 | Feb 11 01:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Chrome OS stops getting updates in August 2024 on that one. | Feb 11 01:48 |
| schestowitz__ | so?> | Feb 11 01:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I might mess around at that point. Nothing to lose if I screw up. | Feb 11 01:49 |
| schestowitz__ | put galliumOS, Ubuntu, Fedora | Feb 11 01:49 |
| schestowitz__ | did you check the site I gave you | Feb 11 01:49 |
| schestowitz__ | on my desk I have 4 laptops, 2 are converted chromebooks | Feb 11 01:49 |
| schestowitz__ | running gnu/linux | Feb 11 01:49 |
| schestowitz__ | one cost just 99 pounds!! | Feb 11 01:49 |
| schestowitz__ | as they ran out of stock, it's a display unit | Feb 11 01:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. Just put a minimal distribution like Bunsenlabs on it. | Feb 11 01:49 |
| schestowitz__ | the ARM one was also cheap, last in stock at Argos | Feb 11 01:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Run whatever browser you like. | Feb 11 01:50 |
| schestowitz__ | [01:49] <DaemonFC[m]> Yeah, I might mess around at that point. Nothing to lose if I screw up. | Feb 11 01:50 |
| schestowitz__ | just make sure you remove the screw | Feb 11 01:50 |
| schestowitz__ | need s good screwdriver | Feb 11 01:50 |
| MinceR | if it comes with systemd, it is not "minimal" | Feb 11 01:50 |
| schestowitz__ | they don't make these easy to remove | Feb 11 01:50 |
| schestowitz__ | trust me, I tried | Feb 11 01:50 |
| schestowitz__ | it ruined the screwdriver before the screw was out | Feb 11 01:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Damn | Feb 11 01:51 |
| schestowitz__ | if it's ssd, then I donn't expect the drive to rot in a few years (4 years) | Feb 11 01:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: Even if you had to swap a Chromebook every 5 years, it's a way better deal than a Macbook. | Feb 11 01:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People buy a Macbook so that Windows 10 isn't fucking up underneath their web browser and then effectively use them as a Chromebook. | Feb 11 01:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's dumb. | Feb 11 01:52 |
| schestowitz__ | rianne's old 'chrome'book (runs Ubuntu) still looks and works like nice | Feb 11 01:53 |
| schestowitz__ | bought in 2015 | Feb 11 01:53 |
| schestowitz__ | still had the plastic covers on until 2 years ago | Feb 11 01:53 |
| schestowitz__ | she uses a thinkpad now, but the old 'chrome'book is still in use for videos etc. | Feb 11 01:54 |
| schestowitz__ | if you use Cruoton, make sure to occasionally back up important files | Feb 11 01:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I might buy one of those Walmart brand laptops. Motile. Next time. | Feb 11 01:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're cheap and it's not hard to just toss a nuke down the hatch to deal with Windows 10. | Feb 11 01:55 |
| schestowitz__ | you still pay windows tax | Feb 11 01:55 |
| schestowitz__ | moronix did some benchmark on those | Feb 11 01:55 |
| schestowitz__ | also, you give money to the Waltons | Feb 11 01:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Crapware. | Feb 11 01:55 |
| schestowitz__ | and that\s not beneficial to anyone but them | Feb 11 01:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Which all goes away when you format. | Feb 11 01:55 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR might make a witty joke about systemd being crapware, too | Feb 11 01:56 |
| schestowitz__ | gets one locked into IBM 'eco' system | Feb 11 01:56 |
| schestowitz__ | when things go wrong you know whose support contracts would suit the businesst best | Feb 11 01:57 |
| schestowitz__ | this is what IBM angles for | Feb 11 01:57 |
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| MinceR | indeed, and so does GNOME | Feb 11 01:57 |
| MinceR | and systemd comes with security holes, some of which you can be sure the nsa knows already | Feb 11 01:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you figure they put in bugs and shit to sell support contracts? | Feb 11 01:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What's KDE's excuse? | Feb 11 01:59 |
| MinceR | they probably just bought all the bullshit | Feb 11 01:59 |
| schestowitz__ | KDE works well for me now | Feb 11 01:59 |
| schestowitz__ | Debian-KDE te am | Feb 11 01:59 |
| schestowitz__ | I have not killed akonadi yet, either... | Feb 11 02:00 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe as this machine isn't ram-tight | Feb 11 02:00 |
| MinceR | KDE worked well for me, back when it was 3.5 | Feb 11 02:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Heh, yeah. | Feb 11 02:00 |
| MinceR | then they hacked together an unworkable, unstable pile of bling | Feb 11 02:02 |
| MinceR | and called it 4.0 | Feb 11 02:02 |
| MinceR | and then they announced that 5.x would depend on systemd | Feb 11 02:02 |
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| MinceR | oh, i missed the part where they claimed 4.3 was finally on par with 3.x | Feb 11 02:04 |
| MinceR | and it, of course, wasn't | Feb 11 02:04 |
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| schestowitz__ | it is now as bad as you put it, MinceR | Feb 11 02:06 |
| schestowitz__ | which v. was the last you tried and | Feb 11 02:06 |
| schestowitz__ | ...which machine specs | Feb 11 02:06 |
| schestowitz__ | (yes, it became bloated) | Feb 11 02:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "The problem with malevolent personality traits like those found in the dark triad is that those who have such traits are unlikely to seek therapy or want to change. They usually only attend therapy if pushed to do so by family members or because they have committed a crime and have been told to attend therapy by court order." | Feb 11 02:07 |
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| schestowitz__ | I meant to say not, not "now" | Feb 11 02:07 |
| MinceR | it was 4.3 | Feb 11 02:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've had court ordered therapy before. It was bullshit and I told them what they wanted to hear until it was over. | Feb 11 02:07 |
| MinceR | that was when i got tired of plasma regularly forgetting its settings | Feb 11 02:07 |
| schestowitz__ | MinceR: new laptop now, post 2015? | Feb 11 02:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Of course, this is just how things are when it comes to courts. | Feb 11 02:07 |
| MinceR | i don't know what it was on | Feb 11 02:08 |
| MinceR | i think i ran it both on the machine i used at work and my own laptop | Feb 11 02:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They can order you to attend, but you just say the shit and get it over with. | Feb 11 02:08 |
| schestowitz__ | 4.3 I have on one laptop | Feb 11 02:08 |
| schestowitz__ | it works ok-ish | Feb 11 02:08 |
| MinceR | i'd rather run TDE | Feb 11 02:08 |
| schestowitz__ | at least looks nicer thaa 3.5.x | Feb 11 02:08 |
| schestowitz__ | *than | Feb 11 02:08 |
| MinceR | i'm not really convinced | Feb 11 02:08 |
| schestowitz__ | rightly so | Feb 11 02:08 |
| schestowitz__ | if TDE serves you ok | Feb 11 02:08 |
| MinceR | 4.x wastes tons of space on screen for round frames and stuff | Feb 11 02:08 |
| MinceR | i'm mostly using fvwm actually | Feb 11 02:09 |
| MinceR | there's i3 on this rpi2 that drives an extra display | Feb 11 02:09 |
| MinceR | (as i don't want to use the mouse too much on it) | Feb 11 02:09 |
| schestowitz__ | fair enough | Feb 11 02:09 |
| MinceR | if i must use a DE, i use lxqt | Feb 11 02:09 |
| MinceR | since xfce went to shit | Feb 11 02:09 |
| MinceR | if i want a wm with minimal configuration, i use icewm | Feb 11 02:10 |
| cubexyz | yes, icewm ftw | Feb 11 02:11 |
| cubexyz | although I still use KDE on the slack box | Feb 11 02:11 |
| schestowitz__ | slack no longer means what it used to | Feb 11 02:13 |
| MinceR | how so? | Feb 11 02:13 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/121351 | Feb 11 02:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Slack: It Used to Be a GNU/Linux Distro, Now It's Surveillance Capitalism | Tux Machines | Feb 11 02:13 | |
| MinceR | ah, right | Feb 11 02:13 |
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| cubexyz | slackware and slackware derivatives is what I use most | Feb 11 02:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenom_II | Feb 11 02:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Phenom II - Wikipedia | Feb 11 02:15 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | " In another change from the original Phenom, Cool'n'Quiet applies to the processor as a whole, rather than on a per-core basis. AMD implemented this to address the mishandling of threads by Windows Vista, which can cause single-threaded applications to run on a core that idles at half its clock rate." | Feb 11 02:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Feb 11 02:16 |
| schestowitz__ | cubexyz: how much RAM do you use? | Feb 11 02:17 |
| schestowitz__ | last week, for the first time, I had a machine with more than 2 GB | Feb 11 02:17 |
| schestowitz__ | illuminating to see what pigs applications become if you give them more RAM | Feb 11 02:18 |
| schestowitz__ | konqueror takes more than ONE GB of RAM!! For 3 tabs | Feb 11 02:18 |
| schestowitz__ | so 8 gb of ram is not enough and 1 gb of swap is already used | Feb 11 02:19 |
| cubexyz | schestowitz__, 4 Gigs on the chromebook and on the main slack box | Feb 11 02:19 |
| schestowitz__ | these programmers are insane | Feb 11 02:19 |
| schestowitz__ | they use anything you give them | Feb 11 02:19 |
| schestowitz__ | or maybe the frameworks they depend on do that | Feb 11 02:19 |
| schestowitz__ | i hardly run anything... | Feb 11 02:20 |
| cubexyz | some of the researchers now use 32 gigs of ram _minimum_ | Feb 11 02:20 |
| schestowitz__ | and some of the stuff is already on swap i.e. disk | Feb 11 02:20 |
| MinceR | the "modern" web seems to have a tendency to gobble RAM | Feb 11 02:20 |
| schestowitz__ | cubexyz: later they put the same on so-called 'phones | Feb 11 02:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I have 16 GB in this laptop | Feb 11 02:20 |
| MinceR | massive amounts of spyware scripts, enormous transparent background graphics in multiple layers | Feb 11 02:20 |
| schestowitz__ | so devs quit caring about old computers and catering for those | Feb 11 02:20 |
| MinceR | and even background videos | Feb 11 02:20 |
| cubexyz | oh yeah it's impossible to avoid | Feb 11 02:21 |
| schestowitz__ | we need to get back to basics | Feb 11 02:21 |
| cubexyz | like you said before, the web is almost unuseable on an older machine | Feb 11 02:21 |
| cubexyz | as you know I still use older distros... for IRC, email, loki games, LGP games etc | Feb 11 02:22 |
| schestowitz__ | LGP still around? | Feb 11 02:23 |
| cubexyz | eh, not really | Feb 11 02:23 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Nope | Feb 11 02:23 |
| cubexyz | it's pretty much dead | Feb 11 02:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most companies that publish games for Linux go under. | Feb 11 02:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Steam took a different approach and basically bundles a variant of Wine and shoves Windows games into it. | Feb 11 02:24 |
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| schestowitz__ | not many gnu linux users are gamers | Feb 11 02:27 |
| schestowitz__ | which makes sense if you judge their work, demography etc. | Feb 11 02:27 |
| MinceR | i am, but i despise DRM | Feb 11 02:27 |
| MinceR | and my favorite game is fully free | Feb 11 02:27 |
| schestowitz__ | try drm-next | Feb 11 02:28 |
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| MinceR | :> | Feb 11 02:28 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/f1yeff/version_difference_chrome_web_store_vs_microsoft/ | Feb 11 02:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Version Difference - Chrome Web Store vs Microsoft Store : uBlockOrigin | Feb 11 02:32 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Edge version of ublock-origin is way behind because Microsoft basically just copied it over and then neglected to update it. | Feb 11 02:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/issues/890 | Feb 11 02:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uBlock Origin for Edge · Issue #890 · uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues · GitHub | Feb 11 02:34 | |
| schestowitz__ | do they call these "stores" because they store data about you? | Feb 11 02:35 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 11 02:41 |
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| cubexyz | I'd still like to buy the rental box Loki game HOMM3 | Feb 11 02:52 |
| cubexyz | if I could find it | Feb 11 02:52 |
| cubexyz | s/rental/retail/ | Feb 11 02:52 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: if you can find one well done. Most of the Loki games were not sold retail. Basically one of the first todo download game and use activation code only. | Feb 11 03:01 |
| oiaohm | Good part was non expiring activation code. | Feb 11 03:01 |
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| cubexyz | oiaohm, I have a nice retail box RT2 so I know they existed | Feb 11 03:03 |
| cubexyz | also have retail box EUS (Eric's Ultimate Solitaire) | Feb 11 03:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I used a Loki installer on Heavy Metal FAKK2 I think. | Feb 11 03:06 |
| oiaohm | cubexyz: note I did not say impossible. Just most of the volume of loki games was not retail boxes and even they they did not sell a lot. | Feb 11 03:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I found a copy on ebay for like $1 plus shipping. | Feb 11 03:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can't imagine that any current web browser would support an old Linux distribution. | Feb 11 03:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't even run on RHEL 5 at this point. | Feb 11 03:09 |
| cubexyz | http://www.improbability.net/loki/ | Feb 11 03:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.improbability.net | Loki Compatibility Libraries | Feb 11 03:12 | |
| cubexyz | that will help | Feb 11 03:12 |
| cubexyz | at least I got HOMM3 running on quasi-old linux | Feb 11 03:12 |
| cubexyz | 2020 Linux will probably be quite hard | Feb 11 03:13 |
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| oiaohm | cubexyz: lot of those old overrides still work with loki games perfectly find on current day distributions. | Feb 11 04:06 |
| oiaohm | Linux world is not that unstable just it lacking a automated system to shim old applications behind the users back. | Feb 11 04:07 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | In Linux 5.5 | Feb 11 05:02 |
| schestowitz__ | what does it do? | Feb 11 05:05 |
| schestowitz__ | Iris as in hype for high res? | Feb 11 05:05 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | > Iris as in hype for high res? | Feb 11 05:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__ Intel's new Gallium3d graphics driver. | Feb 11 05:47 |
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| psydroid | it looks like I've switched systems with schestowitz, I have been using this Samsung X125 laptop lately with a 250 GB hard drive and just 2 GB of RAM | Feb 11 15:45 |
| psydroid | and yes, I am also surprised that software has become so heavy and bloated for no reason at all | Feb 11 15:45 |
| danielp3344 | psydroid: For a while I used a C201 with 16Gb emmc and 2Gb of RAM :P | Feb 11 15:46 |
| psydroid | Daniel Peterson, it does wonders with GNU/Linux, GNU/Hurd, any of the BSDs and similar systems :P | Feb 11 15:46 |
| psydroid | I also think we need to go back to basics | Feb 11 15:47 |
| danielp3344 | it ran xfce great, but it didn't like GNOME | Feb 11 15:47 |
| psydroid | which is why I am subjecting myself to this experience | Feb 11 15:47 |
| psydroid | I am running XFCE now, it's a bit lighter and faster than KDE | Feb 11 15:47 |
| danielp3344 | Also linux 5.0 broke it | Feb 11 15:47 |
| psydroid | oh, what happened? | Feb 11 15:48 |
| danielp3344 | And the serial port was way to hard to get at | Feb 11 15:48 |
| danielp3344 | psydroid: I just couldn't make it boot no matter how hard I tried | Feb 11 15:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "using Windows 12 Lite means “No upgrading when ever you want to work. No upgrades that fail so you cannot upgrade” – clearly referencing Windows 10’s recent travails." | Feb 11 15:48 |
| psydroid | Daniel Peterson, did you ever try any of the BSDs? or god forbid GNU/Hurd? | Feb 11 15:49 |
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| psydroid | (jk) | Feb 11 15:49 |
| danielp3344 | I didn't :/ | Feb 11 15:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: That's not recent. I started routinely seeing Windows Update getting jammed up and refusing to install any updates in Windows 8. | Feb 11 15:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft has some troubleshooting wizards that can bang on it. They usually don't work. Nor does wiping the OS and reinstalling from the enclosed backup copy. | Feb 11 15:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Anyway, it says a lot about Windows that instead of fixing their damned bugs, they anticipate it completely falling apart all the time to the point of including a compressed WIM installer on the computer itself tied into a "Nuke all the things!" widget in the control panel. | Feb 11 15:51 |
| psydroid | The advice I got in ##hardware for old systems is to just buy new hardware. So whenever hardware becomes too slow to run "modern" software, you throw it in the bin and buy new hardware. That's the Microsoft servant mentality in a nutshell. | Feb 11 15:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's easier to just build a doomsday button into the control panel than it is to make better software. | Feb 11 15:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sure it also wipes out whatever the user had going on, but you know..... Microsoft is a trillion dollar company now according to the stock market. | Feb 11 15:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They can't afford to fix Windows. | Feb 11 15:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't know what the Mac does. Probably something similar. | Feb 11 15:55 |
| danielp3344 | psydroid: technically if you run any kind of GNU+Linux you can squeeze a good 5 years out of hardware windoze people are throwing away | Feb 11 15:55 |
| psydroid | This is also why I installed and ran Slackware 8.1, 12.2 and current (as of a few days ago) with KDE desktops in Virtualbox, I wanted to see how the bloat had developed over time | Feb 11 15:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft says you get a clean copy of Windows when you set off the bomb, but if that was true, why would Windows Update still be jammed up? | Feb 11 15:55 |
| psydroid | Daniel Peterson, this is similar in terms of power to the hardware I used on my desktop in 2001 and it was considered and actually was blazing fast by the standards of those days | Feb 11 15:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A top tier smartphone is only about as fast as a laptop from 2006. | Feb 11 15:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They can put software on them that works fine. But they're not going to do it unless that's what gives them a product to sell. | Feb 11 15:57 |
| psydroid | Microsoft and Apple can't afford to build new operating systems from scratch, they are basically thriving on inertia and legacy. If they lose that, who's going to choose their systems all over with GNU/Linux being such a formidable competitor? | Feb 11 15:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Interestingly, Firefox works fine on an Android phone with 1 GB of RAM, but just try to run it on a 2006 PC. | Feb 11 15:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What inertia? Have you tried running old software on Windows 10, latest build? Have ya? | Feb 11 15:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Half the time it doesn't run at all. | Feb 11 15:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a project that uses Wine files to reimplement DirectX 9 on top of Vulkan on Windows 10 because 9L doesn't include the files you need to run many old games. | Feb 11 16:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If we're resorting to using Wine on Windows, then why not just install Linux? | Feb 11 16:01 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Then even if old programs do work, you often have no way of installing them. They probably came on obsolete media, like a DVD, CD, or floppy disk. | Feb 11 16:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If the program is old enough to have come on floppy disk, Wine can almost certainly handle it. | Feb 11 16:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or you can, like, "find" a copy of an ancient version of Windows and run it in Boxes. | Feb 11 16:03 |
| psydroid | I barely use Windows 10, but I couldn't get some application (for a friend) running on WINE recently. That's the only example I know of because I generally don't run any Windows software at all. | Feb 11 16:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not difficult to emulate Windows Me. It hardly required anything by modern standards. | Feb 11 16:04 |
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| *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/LWKnyycrhwZDsaNiDZqtgamt > | Feb 11 16:29 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Firefox releases are just not that exciting anymore. | Feb 11 16:34 |
| psydroid | I never considered "it came with the computer" a valid reason to stick with Windows. The cost of operating the computer with that operating system in terms of resources vastly outweighs the effort to replace it with something that actually works. And that should be done right after acquiring the device to minimise the damage that can be done. | Feb 11 16:36 |
| psydroid | I have built Netsurf from git and am using it now. It seems to have better Javascript support. | Feb 11 16:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I tried it last week. Couldn't render many sites. | Feb 11 16:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, at all. | Feb 11 16:38 |
| psydroid | I am reading Phoronix using it now, it works for that at least. I have Firefox installed as well, but only use it when Netsurf doesn't render the page correctly. | Feb 11 16:40 |
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| tedbox | phoronix looks simple, but it is bloat with malware | Feb 11 16:46 |
| tedbox | [16:34] <DaemonFC[m]> Firefox releases are just not that exciting anymore. | Feb 11 16:47 |
| tedbox | when were they exciting? | Feb 11 16:48 |
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| roy-on-ted | https://godotengine.org/article/headsup-vulkan-merged-master-branch-unstable | Feb 11 16:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-godotengine.org | Godot Engine - Headsup: Vulkan merged, master branch unstable | Feb 11 16:49 | |
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| acer-box__ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja8RSylqg5A | Feb 11 16:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Haines Alaska; Grizzlies, Brown Bears, many many playful cubs! - YouTube | Feb 11 16:58 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I recently learned that there is a "cookie monster" adblock list designed to close those annoying cookie alerts mandated by the EU. It has 16,795 rules. | Feb 11 17:32 |
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| roy-on-ted | https://liliputing.com/2020/02/windows-12-lite-is-not-what-you-think-unless-youre-thinking-linux-based-windows-10-knockoff.html | Feb 11 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"Windows 12 Lite" is not what you think (unless you're thinking Linux-based Windows 10 knockoff) - Liliputing | Feb 11 18:04 | |
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| psydroid | https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/internet-terrible-now-tim-wu-knows-why-podcast-transcript-ncna877906 | Feb 11 18:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Why Is This Happening?: The internet is terrible now, and Tim Wu knows why: podcast & transcript | Feb 11 18:18 | |
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| MinceR | > Not only does it use 1990s-style web design | Feb 11 19:18 |
| MinceR | if it did, it wouldn't be lousy | Feb 11 19:18 |
| MinceR | > may I suggest Kali Linux. It’s a free and open source distro that last year introduced a “Kali Undercover” mode that lets you change the look of the operating system so that folks who don’t look too closely could easily mistake it for Windows 10. | Feb 11 19:19 |
| MinceR | good match for systemd | Feb 11 19:19 |
| MinceR | and gnome | Feb 11 19:19 |
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| MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNVQfWC_evg | Feb 11 19:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Quantum Fields: The Real Building Blocks of the Universe - with David Tong - YouTube | Feb 11 19:56 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19121354 | Feb 11 20:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Feb 11 20:10 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's like a boss button. | Feb 11 20:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you look at kali undercover closely it's pretty obvious that it's not Windows. It's just meant to make it look normal if a person id just walking by. | Feb 11 20:25 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19121353 | Feb 11 20:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Feb 11 20:55 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://chromeunboxed.com/chromebook-power-wash-factory-reset-microsoft-surface-go/ | Feb 11 21:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chromeunboxed.com | A factory reset of a Microsoft Surface Go reminded me why I love Chromebooks | Feb 11 21:06 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | An hour and a half to factory reset a Surface with Windows 10 vs 55 seconds for a Chromebook. | Feb 11 21:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/10/21132060/ibm-slack-chat-employee-rollout-microsoft-teams-competition | Feb 11 21:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | IBM picks Slack over Microsoft Teams for its 350,000 employees - The Verge | Feb 11 21:12 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft boosters, probably sockpuppets, in the comment section. | Feb 11 21:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd rather gouge out my eyeballs with a spoon than use Microsoft Office. | Feb 11 21:12 |
| psydroid | I used Microsoft Office 2010 at work, but I haven't used anything after Office XP personally | Feb 11 21:13 |
| MinceR | i had to use microsloth office at work and it was horrible | Feb 11 21:16 |
| psydroid | I only used it for work-related stuff, so I didn't care | Feb 11 21:16 |
| psydroid | but I don't see the point of using it at all | Feb 11 21:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | RTF is basically at the core of Mac OS because of Cocoa. Probably someone at Next thought this was forward looking in the early 90s. | Feb 11 21:18 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/19121750 | Feb 11 21:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Feb 11 21:21 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19121750 | Feb 11 21:21 |
| MinceR | oops, -1 | Feb 11 21:21 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.imore.com/malwarebytes-malware-threats-endpoint-mac-double-windows | Feb 11 21:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Malwarebytes: Malware threats per endpoint on Mac double that of Windows | iMore | Feb 11 21:25 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | 😁 | Feb 11 21:26 |
| MinceR | how are "Hacktool"s and "Crack Tool"s malware though? | Feb 11 21:32 |
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| psydroid | So I just got another Atom laptop that came with Windows 10, updated the UEFI and disabled Secure Boot and installed Kubuntu | Feb 11 21:44 |
| psydroid | I understand why those are being sold so much these days | Feb 11 21:44 |
| psydroid | Windows 10 runs like crap on them | Feb 11 21:44 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19121325 | Feb 11 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Feb 11 21:54 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | > Windows 10 runs like crap on them | Feb 11 23:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, Windows has always ran poorly on low end processors and low RAM. | Feb 11 23:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-february-2020-patch-tuesday-fixes-99-security-bugs/ | Feb 11 23:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft's February 2020 Patch Tuesday fixes 99 security bugs | ZDNet | Feb 11 23:21 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19121260 | Feb 11 23:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Feb 11 23:25 | |
| XRevan86 | > The highlight of this month's security train represents the fix for CVE-2020-0674, a zero-day vulnerability in Internet Explorer. | Feb 11 23:27 |
| XRevan86 | > in Internet Explorer | Feb 11 23:27 |
| XRevan86 | Highlight, eh? | Feb 11 23:27 |
| MinceR | the shiniest turd in the bowl | Feb 11 23:27 |
| XRevan86 | > Most of the critical bugs are remote code execution and memory corruption bugs | Feb 11 23:28 |
| XRevan86 | And that's just meh. Meanwhile, IE… | Feb 11 23:28 |
| XRevan86 | > Windows SSH Elevation of Privilege Vulnerability | Feb 11 23:28 |
| XRevan86 | > Microsoft Secure Boot Security Feature Bypass Vulnerability | Feb 11 23:29 |
| XRevan86 | I don't consider that one an issue. | Feb 11 23:29 |
| MinceR | microsloth does, though | Feb 11 23:31 |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/22/f587bb0ef74a9560.mp4 | Feb 11 23:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't recall malicious modifications to the Linux kernel being a problem for me on my old legacy bios systems. | Feb 11 23:49 |
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