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MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/nimbyMay 11 00:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - NIMBYMay 11 00:07
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/BSY0DD5.pngMay 11 01:00
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Oracle Linux 8.2 Released, It’s Based on Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.2 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137447 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cfa10edb-836c-4d16-a5e0-df08a01eb07d]May 11 01:13
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux 5.7-rc5 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137448 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8fc9bbe4-8c6b-40e7-a983-5f1c0b517cae]May 11 01:15
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Intel Ice Lake "0x78" Microcode Update Having Small But Measurable Performance Hits http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137449 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d71c7e0f-2075-49d0-aaa8-12e2370254c6]May 11 01:19
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137450 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a5c7ced1-2cd2-419e-a4fc-4b0d4dc1e839]May 11 01:31
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: EndeavourOS 2020.04.11 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137451 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fb950fd4-975e-461c-9ff4-de355f6d3790]May 11 01:34
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schestowitz> https://zephyrnet.com/microsofts-github-account-hacked-500-gb-of-microsofts-private-github-repositories-data-stolen/May 11 02:59
schestowitz> Yes, I lack the time to research this properly, but maybe it's a cautionary tale for part 5/6?May 11 02:59
schestowitzSee also http://techrights.org/2019/07/14/blaming-canonical-for-github/May 11 02:59
schestowitzMaybe another strong argument for deletegithub...May 11 02:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zephyrnet.com | Microsoft's GitHub Account Hacked – 500 GB Of Microsoft's Private GitHub Repositories Data Stolen |May 11 02:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GitHub is Microsoft’s Proprietary Software and Centralised (Monopoly) Platform, But When Canonical’s Account There Gets Compromised Suddenly It’s Ubuntu’s Fault? | TechrightsMay 11 03:00
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oiaohmschestowitz: problem is leaks like that are double sided.May 11 03:11
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oiaohmschestowitz: https://www.linux.com/news/reactos-suspends-development-source-code-review/   << Its really simple to forgot this is a possible caused nightmare.May 11 03:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ReactOS suspends development for source code review - Linux.comMay 11 03:14
oiaohmSo one way to possible slow down someone cloning your product is in fact leak the source code and have your competitor bound up in legal reviews.May 11 03:15
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python Programming http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137452 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e848f1f1-76e6-4ba4-96a5-628f7991566c]May 11 03:32
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Xubuntu 20.04 Focal Fossa - Tickboxer http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137453 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3f50bb9c-7ea2-47ea-820c-55aa508f1549]May 11 03:40
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: When Contributing to OSS, Open a Discussion First Before Sending a Pull Request http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137454 [https://pleroma.site/objects/88c2a7a4-9960-47e9-852d-e98f302fc0c5]May 11 04:00
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137455 [https://pleroma.site/objects/63ab2484-0ac9-465e-af3d-bce16d073fe4]May 11 04:08
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: Open Source Security Podcast, Top 5 Linux Podcasts to Learn About Linux, GNU World Order http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137456 [https://pleroma.site/objects/65c535b3-dffd-4965-bedb-4684161f0386]May 11 04:58
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Open Hardware/Modding: 3-D Printing and Arduino http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137457 [https://pleroma.site/objects/17f955ce-9989-43c2-9978-a390d035290a]May 11 05:12
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Video Review: Xubuntu 20.04 LTS - See What's New http://tuxmachines.org/node/137458 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9e9dc25b-14b0-4611-828c-2356f18f29cd]May 11 07:18
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSS Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137459 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d4e19829-0bbb-4ec9-a0d1-408a473b134f]May 11 07:20
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Openwashing Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137460 [https://pleroma.site/objects/68a987ea-61ad-40be-9aca-cf66185729db]May 11 08:27
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Scribus – An Open Source Desktop Publishing Software http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137461 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a683b807-a896-4973-9687-dea3a95eec52]May 11 08:29
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Modify a disk image to create a Raspberry Pi-based homelab http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137462 [https://pleroma.site/objects/11c3a0db-fe3d-4061-961c-a18843922ab9]May 11 08:42
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: How I track my home's energy consumption with open source http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137463 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fd2c1476-cd86-4059-90d6-de3f215d38f4]May 11 08:43
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Superpaper is an advanced wallapper app for Windows and Linux with unique features http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137464 [https://pleroma.site/objects/56e8e25a-75ed-4073-bdbb-fcf9247b218c]May 11 08:45
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: EndeavourOS 2020.05.08 Released: A Friendlier Arch-Based Linux Distro http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137431#comment-25026 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b682a69c-702b-4187-af1b-0889a520eaa1]May 11 08:47
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Swift Now Supports More Linux Distributions, Including Ubuntu 20.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137465 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4261ba9a-1fa1-4c73-b4c1-86f87f39519e]May 11 08:53
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schestowitzAriadne: A netsplit appears to have executed viera and it is not recovering (in IRC/Freenode)May 11 10:41
Ariadneshould be coming back nowMay 11 10:43
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schestowitzthanks, AriadneMay 11 10:44
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/664090.jpgMay 11 11:45
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MinceR(cat) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/05/01/41d088f1254cc93e.mp4May 11 11:56
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/663998.jpgMay 11 12:23
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: EasyDK Open Source Cloud Media Platform is Made for Raspberry Pi 3/4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137466 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6d83869c-1e3d-4fde-a7fa-33b6680ed11f]May 11 12:29
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137467 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9464ba35-0d87-4978-b2c6-28e60d6aae52]May 11 12:30
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 4K Vision Edge Computing Platform Features Xilinx Zynq UltraScale+ ZU3EG MPSoC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137468 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4c1ba59f-41e6-4e6a-9249-d26b35045b56]May 11 12:33
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Track Your Screen Time in Linux with ActivityWatch http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137469 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a5deda65-81c7-4dab-9529-137298447dbe]May 11 12:35
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137470 [https://pleroma.site/objects/17b3ffc6-04f5-45be-9a1d-ea45215f765b]May 11 12:38
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: "ActivityWatch is an open-source privacy-friendly app that tracks how you spend your time on a desktop computer or on a mobile device." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137471 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f716d4a2-1007-4492-b871-2e0fe3c65509]May 11 12:40
XRevan86MinceR: This is straight-up creepy.May 11 12:45
schestowitz[11:56] <MinceR> (cat) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/05/01/41d088f1254cc93e.mp4May 11 13:10
schestowitzhe is, he is... creepyMay 11 13:10
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/670513.jpgMay 11 13:11
XRevan86MinceR: smekalochkaMay 11 13:12
schestowitzbless you...May 11 13:12
MinceRfgsfdsMay 11 13:12
schestowitz[did you sneeze]May 11 13:13
XRevan86I deserve that %)May 11 13:14
XRevan86Let's just say, it is a word that works well with https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/138/highresrollsafe.jpgMay 11 13:18
XRevan86Pidgin hangs itself when I paste this URL into it.May 11 13:22
smnthermesAll desktop clients suck, sadlyMay 11 13:35
smnthermesFor XMPPMay 11 13:35
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psydreadDino and Profanity too?May 11 15:02
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/670433.jpgMay 11 15:12
smnthermespsydread: Dino has a smartphone UI and the developers hate featuresMay 11 15:14
XRevan86"Advanced XMPP user" featuresMay 11 15:16
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137472 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8ebe7771-44af-49be-a8ef-f8a27d694f77]May 11 15:27
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games Coming to GNU/Linux and Some Free Software in Gaming http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137473 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c284c818-9e58-4fee-bdee-d46a3d3f9af1]May 11 15:38
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XRevan86> Wow, the official site of #startcom is now OFFLINE. Amazing. I feel bad for people who bought certs from them. Or came to rely on them.May 11 15:56
XRevan86Meh, they're probably all expired by now.May 11 15:57
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XRevan86* they'veMay 11 15:58
XRevan86And they haven't been trusted by web browsers for a while too.May 11 15:59
XRevan86That's probably what dug the grave for StarCom.May 11 15:59
XRevan86(ultimately their questionable practices)May 11 15:59
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smnthermes> XRevan86 Wrote:May 11 16:04
smnthermes> "Advanced XMPP user" featuresMay 11 16:04
smnthermesFeatures that don't fit the "smart"phone philosophy*May 11 16:04
smnthermeshttps://github.com/dino/dino/issues/139May 11 16:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[FR] Show contact status in "Start Chat" window · Issue #139 · dino/dino · GitHubMay 11 16:05
XRevan86smnthermes: Conversations can show statuses, by the way %)May 11 16:06
liberty_boxhttps://betanews.com/2020/05/11/thunderspy-security-vulnerability/May 11 16:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Thunderspy vulnerability in Thunderbolt 3 allows hackers to steal files from Windows and Linux machinesMay 11 16:06
XRevan86smnthermes: But not resources. Now that's something that may as well go under the hood now that carbons are widespead and no one really cares what resource is stuff being sent to.May 11 16:07
XRevan86smnthermes: Ah, they mean showing status in the roster.May 11 16:09
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137475 [https://pleroma.site/objects/657e42e6-3dbf-48b6-b0c9-69b7b8529867]May 11 16:18
MinceR(cat) https://ircz.de/p/20031322May 11 16:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4429810)May 11 16:24
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 4MLinux 32.2 released. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137477 [https://pleroma.site/objects/33a3a540-8be4-4887-87f2-ca63cd606812]May 11 16:29
MinceRhttps://thenextweb.com/security/2020/05/11/theres-a-new-thunderbolt-bug-check-if-your-computer-is-affected/May 11 16:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | There’s a new Thunderbolt bug, check if your computer is affectedMay 11 16:29
XRevan86> check if your computer is affectedMay 11 16:29
XRevan86nahMay 11 16:29
XRevan86> Thunderbolt ports are present in machines with Windows, Linux, and macOS.May 11 16:30
XRevan86Really? I've never seen any single one.May 11 16:30
XRevan86> While you can’t do anything to patch these vulnerabilities, you shouldn’t use unknown Thunderbolt devices, or leave your computer unattended in public places.May 11 16:35
XRevan86I suggest clay.May 11 16:35
MinceRi have no computers with thunderbolt ports :>May 11 16:36
XRevan86One can pick plasticine of the matching colourMay 11 16:36
XRevan86and fix their laptopMay 11 16:37
MinceRlolMay 11 16:37
MinceRor cheese: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/74/4a/35/744a35fcf46d16968054a2957ef7e12e.jpgMay 11 16:37
XRevan86MinceR: nah, that actually looks disgustingMay 11 16:39
XRevan86Although I generally think liquid cheese is disgusting-lookingMay 11 16:39
MinceRof course it looks disgusting, it's an apple productMay 11 16:41
MinceRalso, i though "parmesan" was supposed to be solid and hard, not liquidMay 11 16:41
XRevan86MinceR: It's that usonian bottled cheeseMay 11 16:44
XRevan86for sprayingMay 11 16:45
MinceRit could be solid and shreddedMay 11 16:45
XRevan86https://sparkroom.com/wp-content/uploads/Kraft-Easy-Cheese.jpg this stuffMay 11 16:45
XRevan86MinceR: Who puts shredded cheese in a container?May 11 16:46
MinceRthey call this crap "parmesan"?May 11 16:46
XRevan86MinceR: I figured that maybe theoretically there can exist…May 11 16:46
XRevan86MinceR: I found "Parmesan Cheese Powder". Maybe that's what this is.May 11 16:47
MinceRyeahMay 11 16:48
XRevan86De-facto quarantine in Russia is de-facto over.May 11 16:48
XRevan86MinceR: I'm looking at this picture and wondering…May 11 16:50
XRevan86MinceR: This laptop looks kinda like shit, is this really a Mac?May 11 16:50
MinceRyesMay 11 16:50
MinceRactually, i'm not sureMay 11 16:51
MinceRi don't know what's going on on the lid sideMay 11 16:51
XRevan86https://images10.newegg.com/ProductImage/2SN-0001-000D4-01.jpgMay 11 16:52
XRevan86Yea, all the quirks of the Apple design are there.May 11 16:53
MinceRthis doesn't have the "we couldn't decide whether we wanted a vent or some sort of card slot here" slit though :>May 11 16:53
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137479 [https://pleroma.site/objects/185fb138-075e-42b2-b9b5-eec7e2048684]May 11 16:53
XRevan86MinceR: Yes, but this may as well be a different model.May 11 16:53
XRevan86MinceR: Found one that has it. It crashed my Pidgin, so I'll just use words %)May 11 16:55
MinceRwhy not replace pidgin with irssi? :>May 11 16:56
XRevan86https://s3.amazonaws.com/digitaltrends-uploads-prod/2016/03/macbook-air-2.jpg this one worksMay 11 16:56
XRevan86Anyway, this used macbook shows just how weak its materials look after some damage.May 11 16:57
XRevan86Especially compared to my ThinkPad :)May 11 16:58
MinceRwell yeah, they're not in the same leagueMay 11 16:58
MinceRThinkPads are computers; macbooks are fashion accessoriesMay 11 16:58
XRevan86and very fragile at thatMay 11 16:58
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python Programminghttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137480 [https://pleroma.site/objects/146de9c8-2994-4267-8ab1-d22d1773b573]May 11 16:59
XRevan86MinceR: Although I wouldn't use word the word "fashion" here.May 11 17:00
XRevan86s/word //May 11 17:00
MinceRwhy not?May 11 17:00
XRevan86MinceR: Æsthetically not that pleasing.May 11 17:01
XRevan86Maybe from afar…May 11 17:01
MinceRnot all fashion is aesthetically pleasingMay 11 17:01
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Interview with Jefferson Nascimento http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137474 [https://pleroma.site/objects/756ca4a2-7db6-4599-8052-99d46c529225]May 11 17:02
XRevan86This reminds me of that time when I sitting next to a person who's been using a Chinese cheap-looking smartphoneMay 11 17:02
XRevan86and then I noticed it's actually an iPhoneMay 11 17:02
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137476 [https://pleroma.site/objects/81f46329-b8e4-407a-8c32-fbb1c040e772]May 11 17:02
XRevan86Apple is "mass-produce" quality level shit.May 11 17:02
MinceRnot all mass produced goods are as shitty as crApple'sMay 11 17:03
XRevan86Which may be obvious, but it's so far from the image that they're trying to build for themselvesw.May 11 17:03
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Stable Kernels: 5.6.12, 5.4.40, 4.19.122, 4.14.180, 4.9.223, and 4.4.223 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137478 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d27d0b51-f74f-4d1d-9078-b2e50c712538]May 11 17:04
XRevan86MinceR: I guess I'm trying to employ a soviet-istic term %)May 11 17:04
XRevan86translated this time to avoid a "bless you"May 11 17:04
XRevan86https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ширпотреб#RussianMay 11 17:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | ширпотреб - WiktionaryMay 11 17:05
MinceR:)May 11 17:05
XRevan86A "mass consumer goods" shortening to mean something of a shitty qualityMay 11 17:05
MinceRso mass-produced by a stalinist state :>May 11 17:05
MinceRknowing crApple's mindset, stalinism is not too distant from themMay 11 17:06
XRevan86MinceR: I guess it's the same distinction as with "military-grade", except much more exaggeratedMay 11 17:06
MinceRstrange, military-grade seems to be positive nowadaysMay 11 17:06
XRevan86MinceR: Yes, I mean, this opposed to military-gradeMay 11 17:07
MinceRespecially stuff like MIL-STD-810GMay 11 17:07
XRevan86consumer vs. militaryMay 11 17:07
MinceRmy phone is MIL-STD-810G compliant :>May 11 17:07
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XRevan86MinceR: And ThinkPad's are not consumer-level generally, they're focused at "enterprises"May 11 17:11
XRevan86so that distinction does applyMay 11 17:11
XRevan86https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/consumer_good#EnglishMay 11 17:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | consumer good - WiktionaryMay 11 17:12
XRevan86Not for the military, not for high-ranking officials, not for enterprises – for someone who'd fancy an aluminium laptop that bends from touch but had a good marketing campaignMay 11 17:14
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XRevan86All of the above-mentioned care about durability, performance, compatibility, autonomy, while "consumers" care about… I'm not sure what exactly.May 11 17:20
XRevan86thunderbolt ports? %)May 11 17:20
MinceRhigh priceMay 11 17:25
MinceRso they can show offMay 11 17:26
MinceRconspicuous consumptionMay 11 17:26
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_goodMay 11 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Veblen good - WikipediaMay 11 17:26
XRevan86That cannot be the whole answerMay 11 17:32
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MinceRit also has the logo of one of the cults they want to belong toMay 11 17:37
MinceRsometimes it even lights upMay 11 17:37
XRevan86MinceR: Because otherwise I might think that this is some cheap aluminium crap and not a luxury itemMay 11 17:42
XRevan86point takenMay 11 17:43
MinceR:>May 11 17:44
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MinceRhttps://i.pinimg.com/736x/fe/58/55/fe5855bd9c79d94cb8ee128389b88009.jpgMay 11 17:46
XRevan86I wonder what's the difference was between "has" and "hath"May 11 17:47
XRevan86and "does" and "doth"May 11 17:47
XRevan86(or "doeth"?)May 11 17:48
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯May 11 17:48
XRevan86https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-eth#PronunciationMay 11 17:54
XRevan86> There is some evidence that verbs written with this ending in Early Modern English were pronounced as if they ended in -s, which was common in speech before becoming common in writing. Alternatively (or in addition to the former) the Northumbrian dialect of Old English's third-person singular present indicative suffix, -s, may have eventually displaced the -eth suffix.May 11 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | -eth - WiktionaryMay 11 17:54
XRevan86It would appear they are indeed equivalent.May 11 17:55
MinceRbringest them onethMay 11 17:55
MinceRhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/_NU_b0UKSqW56_AlAMZKxHPuiukH8S8dJR8XJpb6qdR0Kd4eR7I_IuF1MylaiMavBgTtPsxkQmjRejArifhcYV1bAwxtrNu3i9v4jVi2sqoSVA2h51uDwfrAa66t4wIhMay 11 17:55
XRevan86MinceR: That's gramatically incorrect from the second wordMay 11 17:56
XRevan86As if "thou needest" didn't sound archaic enough %)May 11 17:57
MinceRobviouslyMay 11 17:57
MinceRit's Ye Olde Butcherede EnglisheMay 11 17:57
XRevan86I knew it has a nameMay 11 17:58
XRevan86I didn't know what it was :)May 11 17:58
XRevan86I don't get why TV shows do this so much.May 11 17:58
XRevan86Is this language trolling?May 11 17:59
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯May 11 17:59
MinceRmaybe it's because of the KJVMay 11 17:59
XRevan86MinceR: If a person can read the KJV Bible, why would they do such silly mistakes?May 11 18:01
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯May 11 18:02
MinceRhttps://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YeOldeButcheredeEnglisheMay 11 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tvtropes.org | Ye Olde Butcherede Englishe - TV TropesMay 11 18:02
XRevan86MinceR: Another thing I'm wondering about: was "thou" ever pronounced as "thau" by actual "native" speakers?May 11 18:03
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯May 11 18:03
XRevan86It doesn't look that way.May 11 18:03
XRevan86Maybe somewhen in a distant future one will read "you" as "yaw". Though then I'd clash with "y'all" %).May 11 18:07
XRevan86and maybe even use "somewhen" :)May 11 18:09
MinceRthey'll replace it with y'allMay 11 18:11
MinceRand use all y'all in pluralMay 11 18:11
XRevan86MinceR: And "yaw" as singularMay 11 18:12
MinceRno, y'all is already singular :>May 11 18:12
XRevan86but there won't be any difference so it'll drop out of useMay 11 18:12
XRevan86MinceR: What would be the plural? %)May 11 18:12
MinceRall y'allMay 11 18:12
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y%27all#Singular_usageMay 11 18:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Y'all - WikipediaMay 11 18:13
XRevan86Whom am I kidding, it'd be "they"May 11 18:13
XRevan86MinceR: oy-vey…May 11 18:13
XRevan86MinceR: You weren't kiddingMay 11 18:13
XRevan86"euphemism treadmill" – good termMay 11 18:22
MinceR:)May 11 18:23
XRevan86In a hundred years: "how could be say such a thing? didn't he know that "treadmill" is a term for penis!?"May 11 18:24
MinceR:>May 11 18:27
XRevan86It's amazing how well TV Tropes describes tropesMay 11 18:39
XRevan86including those that apply to culture in generalMay 11 18:39
XRevan86https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HaveAGayOldTime "The infamous "N-word" (which is so virulent it cannot be even used clinically in many places anymore) used to be common language, even without racist overtones."May 11 18:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tvtropes.org | Have a Gay Old Time - TV TropesMay 11 18:57
XRevan86This makes me doubt the story I read about the origins of that word.May 11 18:57
MinceRhttps://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TVTropesWillRuinYourLifeMay 11 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tvtropes.org | TV Tropes Will Ruin Your Life - TV TropesMay 11 18:59
*XRevan86 looks at 11 tabs of TV TropesMay 11 19:09
MinceRlolMay 11 19:12
XRevan86https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DesignStudentsOrgasmMay 11 19:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tvtropes.org | Design Student's Orgasm - TV TropesMay 11 19:15
XRevan86https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn?from=UsefulNotes.SovietUnion not so bad, albeit simplifiedMay 11 19:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tvtropes.org | Soviet Russia, Ukraine, and So On / Useful Notes - TV TropesMay 11 19:48
MinceRIn Russia, trope simplifies YOU!!May 11 19:48
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/w4kiaTY.jpgMay 11 19:49
MinceRhttps://i.redd.it/wn7u6gnsr4y41.jpgMay 11 20:24
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XRevan86> Какая разница между почему, почему, почему, почему, почему, почему, почемуMay 11 20:25
XRevan86okay %)May 11 20:26
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I threw a bunch of people I owe zombie debt to into my bankruptcy petition. All the way back to 2001.May 11 20:27
DaemonFC[m]Just a giant fuck you list.May 11 20:27
MinceR:)May 11 20:27
MinceRwhat's "zombie debt"?May 11 20:27
DaemonFC[m]You can only file once every 8 years. That's the rule. Doesn't matter how much you owe or how many people you throw in. You get one every 8 years.May 11 20:28
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Each state has a statute of limitations. If they don't sue you, generally, within 5-6 years in most states, they can't do it ever unless they trick you into verifying the debt is yours somehow.May 11 20:28
DaemonFC[m]So they can pester you and hope you acknowledge it, but if you don't it's uncollectable. Also, after 7 years it drops off your credit report and they can't ever put it back on.May 11 20:29
DaemonFC[m]So the debt is still out there but it's very very hard to collect and so it changes hands and someone will buy it for like $1-2 per $1,000 and try to bug you about it. Hope you're too stupid to know not to talk about it.May 11 20:29
DaemonFC[m]Filing bankruptcy against the original creditor voids the underlying debt, but if a collection agency has it, it's better to name both in the bankruptcy petition.May 11 20:30
DaemonFC[m]They'll both get the discharge notice when the bankruptcy goes through and it's impossible for them to say they didn't know they can't contact you anymore.May 11 20:31
DaemonFC[m]If they do, it's easy to turn around and file a lawsuit against them.May 11 20:31
DaemonFC[m]The FDCPA says that if a debt collector contacts you and knew that the debt has been discharged, you can sue them in a state court for $4,000 plus any of your court fees each time they do it.May 11 20:32
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DaemonFC[m]So if I file bankruptcy against a credit card company, they get the discharge, and they contact me again anyway, I can go right down to small claims and file a small claims court lawsuit against, say, Citibank, and use the discharge petition and the letter they sent trying to collect as evidence.May 11 20:33
DaemonFC[m]The judge orders that I win and they owe me $4,000.May 11 20:33
DaemonFC[m]Plus the cost to serve them with the court papers.May 11 20:33
MinceR:>May 11 20:34
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I got a letter in the mail about some unpaid medical bills that went to collections in 2008-2011.May 11 20:35
DaemonFC[m]They claimed that they were adding late fees, which doubled the original amount.May 11 20:35
DaemonFC[m]So I threw them in with the bankruptcy and they get a discharge letter instead.May 11 20:35
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DaemonFC[m]I think they have a raging hard on for me in particular because I got them off my credit report years earlier because I disputed the item with the collection agency repeatedly until they finally didn't reply on time and it fell off.May 11 20:36
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: About half is current debt and about half is Zombie.May 11 21:14
DaemonFC[m]For a total of about $100,000.May 11 21:14
DaemonFC[m]If you can make it all go away for a total of $1,200, why wouldn't you? If you can't pay it, that's what the process is for.May 11 21:15
XRevan86MinceR: I'm still in TV TropesMay 11 21:17
XRevan86https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HollywoodHomely "Ugly Betty" – what a lovely kidMay 11 21:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tvtropes.org | Hollywood Homely - TV TropesMay 11 21:17
XRevan86It had a Russian adaptation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_Born_BeautifulMay 11 21:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Not Born Beautiful - WikipediaMay 11 21:18
XRevan86It had an opposite problemMay 11 21:19
XRevan86https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rGNeYjC8L34/maxresdefault.jpg this is post-beautificationMay 11 21:19
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XRevan86(the actress is fine, but somehow showrunners' attempts to make her appealing had strange results)May 11 21:20
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schestowitzXRevan86: looks also like bullet for pendantMay 11 21:52
XRevan86schestowitz: heh, it doesMay 11 21:54
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DaemonFC[m]I just found something that makes this even better.May 11 21:54
DaemonFC[m]The bankruptcy trustee can claw back the last 3 months of payments that my ex made on our car.May 11 21:54
DaemonFC[m]And give it to my creditors.May 11 21:55
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: debt issues for you?May 11 23:05
schestowitzor just John?May 11 23:05
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Me. Because of last year mainly.May 11 23:06
DaemonFC[m]Oddly, the stimulus money is just enough to file bankruptcy with.May 11 23:06
DaemonFC[m]Take the stimulus money $1,200 from the Coronavirus thing and use it to file bankruptcy and wipe out $52,300 worth of active debt.May 11 23:07
DaemonFC[m]Seems like that makes more sense than waiting around for them to sue me.May 11 23:07
DaemonFC[m]It makes what happens to John's car totally not my problem anymore.May 11 23:07
DaemonFC[m]My name will still be on the title.May 11 23:07
DaemonFC[m]I can technically get a new key and when he's close to paying it off go over there and drive off with it if I want to.May 11 23:08
DaemonFC[m]Let him keep paying for it and then when it's 5 years old just drive off and never let him find it.May 11 23:08
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schestowitzlolMay 11 23:10
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: 'your' pres is doing his seventh bankruptcy nowMay 11 23:10
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: our death toll said to be down to 210 today https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countriesMay 11 23:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldometers.info | Coronavirus Update (Live): 4,243,626 Cases and 286,563 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - WorldometerMay 11 23:11
schestowitzwe're 'opening' up further in 1.5 daysMay 11 23:11
schestowitzbut...May 11 23:11
schestowitzsince we're remote workers..May 11 23:11
schestowitzwe don't care much and will change nothingMay 11 23:11
schestowitzuntil the gym reopensMay 11 23:11
schestowitzwhich we estimate might take another monthMay 11 23:11
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DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "DaemonFC: 'your' pres is doing h"> Yeah, I only have to figure out a way to get myself in severe debt trouble 6 more times and I'll catch up to the president.May 11 23:18
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: seems like your 2020 choice will be two womanisersMay 11 23:27
schestowitzain't that lovely?May 11 23:27
DaemonFC[m]Yeah...May 11 23:28
DaemonFC[m]Trump isn't talking about the Biden thing.May 11 23:28
DaemonFC[m]Because Trump's history of this is much more detailed.May 11 23:28
schestowitzwomen going to the poll... deciding which pervert they'd rather get groped byMay 11 23:28
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: yes, Trump and Friends (Fox) decided to make up some "obamagate"May 11 23:29
schestowitzwhich I don't get, it predates the said meetingMay 11 23:29
schestowitzsummer of 2016, not 2017May 11 23:29
schestowitzbut they make up phony scandals with hashtags nowMay 11 23:29
schestowitzweaponsing social  control media the way Demented Orange doesMay 11 23:30
schestowitzSeems to play onMay 11 23:30
schestowitz1) Kenya angleMay 11 23:30
schestowitz2) "brown" peopleMay 11 23:31
schestowitz3) "Muslim" 'takeover'May 11 23:31
schestowitzand a mix of the 3May 11 23:31
schestowitzas if to suggest treason or takeover by the US by some "them" versus "Us"May 11 23:31
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I suppose if you needed some major surgery right before a bankruptcy, you could get it done, not pay the bill, file an itemized tax return with the gigantic bill on it, take the deduction, wait several months, and file bankruptcy and throw the bill in.May 11 23:31
schestowitzThe US is too full of foolish, gullible peopleMay 11 23:31
schestowitzso this crap might impress and entrap some dim-witted, DonTheCOn-worshipping dronesMay 11 23:32
DaemonFC[m]Of course you're not supposed to be planning a bankruptcy with the intent of screwing over creditors and walking away.May 11 23:32
DaemonFC[m]It's obvious that Trump (and many people) do, but intent is hard to prove.May 11 23:32
schestowitzwell, the US is fedMay 11 23:32
schestowitzf'edMay 11 23:32
schestowitzI meant f*edMay 11 23:32
schestowitzor what notMay 11 23:32
schestowitznot The FedMay 11 23:32
schestowitzECB in Europe is also a messMay 11 23:32
schestowitzzoobab just mentioned itMay 11 23:33
schestowitzbut I think Europe can endure better... at least most countries here don't bankrupt people with medical bills, forcing them to remortgage the house and whatnot...May 11 23:33
schestowitzThe US is going in a very bad direction (and has since Bush II)May 11 23:33
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Yeah, if they have $4 trillion just this year to print up and hand the banks, I think they can absorb the loss of $28,000 in credit cards, $2,000 in medical bills, and $20,000 that they can turn around and make John pay for the car so Kia really loses nothing anyway.May 11 23:33
DaemonFC[m]They just can't ever pursue me if he stops paying.May 11 23:34
schestowitzIf I were you, I'd check the option of relocating to Luzon or something in the coming yearsMay 11 23:34
schestowitzat least you can afford a house/shack thereMay 11 23:34
schestowitzyou won't lose on healthcare... medical bills are vastly lower thereMay 11 23:34
schestowitzI got a rabbies shot there 3 years ago... didn't cost an arm and leg (I got bitten by a puppy)May 11 23:35
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: For good measure, I threw in $40,000 of medical bills from 2001-2011 just so I can send them the discharge notice.May 11 23:35
DaemonFC[m]Plus like $300 to AT&T from 2005.May 11 23:35
schestowitzMake use of what you can in IllinoisMay 11 23:35
DaemonFC[m]I listed their debt collection agency AFNI and their mailing address for payments.May 11 23:35
schestowitzand plan ahead, you might want to leaveMay 11 23:35
schestowitzThe militias already show their true intent... and other nations won't accept them or issue them with visasMay 11 23:36
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The stuff that happened before 2015 is too old to collect unless they fool me into admitting responsibility for it.May 11 23:36
schestowitz(not even Mexico)May 11 23:36
DaemonFC[m]But they can still bother me, and bankruptcy makes that illegal.May 11 23:36
DaemonFC[m]So throw them in. Giant middle finger to them or whoever has the debt now.May 11 23:36
schestowitzalso, you can rid yourself from these debts.... by leavingMay 11 23:36
schestowitznot sure it impedes movement between airport/transitMay 11 23:36
schestowitzthey rip you off anywayMay 11 23:36
MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/precision-medicineMay 11 23:37
schestowitzlike $3000 for one-night ERMay 11 23:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Precision MedicineMay 11 23:37
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Most people I know who have filed bankruptcy said it was not depressing at all to have a bankruptcy on their credit report and it was the best financial decision they ever made.May 11 23:37
DaemonFC[m]Because before that, it was watching the credit cards pile up until they're maxed out and you're paying them just to not sue you.May 11 23:38
DaemonFC[m]Mortgage that you can't get out of because you lost your job and had to take a lower paying one.May 11 23:38
DaemonFC[m]Medical bills that pile up.May 11 23:38
schestowitzfastMay 11 23:38
schestowitzvery fastMay 11 23:38
DaemonFC[m]Constant threatening phone calls and letters that may eventually become a lawsuit.May 11 23:38
schestowitzI was stunned by some things I sawMay 11 23:38
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: That's nothing.May 11 23:38
schestowitzrelatives of mine who are in practices and clinics don't even pay the staff wellMay 11 23:38
DaemonFC[m]Wanna hear three that I threw in that are really old?May 11 23:39
schestowitzEven your medical system became like conglomeratesMay 11 23:39
schestowitznurses don't get PPEsMay 11 23:39
schestowitzand not even a decent salaryMay 11 23:39
schestowitzThe ripoff feeds hedge funds, shareholders etc.May 11 23:39
DaemonFC[m]$11,000 for the co-pay for two weeks in a mental health inpatient facility in 2001, after insurance paid EIGHTY PERCENT of the negotiated bill.May 11 23:39
schestowitzwhat for?May 11 23:40
DaemonFC[m]$14,000 to another one from 2007 for 9 days with no insurance.May 11 23:40
schestowitzdid you try to harm yourself?May 11 23:40
DaemonFC[m]$11,500 to an ER that I spent 3 hours in in 2009.May 11 23:40
schestowitzwow, 11kMay 11 23:40
schestowitzI thought only 3kMay 11 23:40
DaemonFC[m]Along with $560 to the physician billed apart from that.May 11 23:40
schestowitzwhat are they, magicians?May 11 23:40
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: 3 hours in the ER in 2009 was $12,060, plus labs.May 11 23:41
schestowitzhow much was staff paid?May 11 23:41
schestowitz$10 an hour?May 11 23:41
schestowitzthis is unjust, it's immoral to pay that in fullMay 11 23:41
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, they know how to take $5 worth of dilantin and maybe $500 worth of payroll and turn it into a $12,000 bill.May 11 23:41
schestowitzbring them some doughnuts and chcocolatesMay 11 23:41
schestowitz"thank you for looking after me, enjoy the meal, bye now.."May 11 23:41
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, schestowitz , they can't get it from me whether I throw it in or not.May 11 23:42
DaemonFC[m]Because it's really old.May 11 23:42
DaemonFC[m]But it just lets me have the last word. Haha. You never got me on that one and you never will.May 11 23:42
schestowitzchocolates only if you feel generous ;-)May 11 23:42
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Yeah, my sister-in-law is threatening us.May 11 23:43
DaemonFC[m]I've stared down much bigger enemies than her.May 11 23:43
DaemonFC[m]They're behind me, she's in front of me. She should ask them if any of them were glad they did it.May 11 23:43
schestowitzMacheadMay 11 23:44
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I'm listening to a Wagner collection that I found. May 11 23:44
DaemonFC[m]I can see why the Nazis appropriated it.May 11 23:44
schestowitzthey did others tooMay 11 23:45
DaemonFC[m]It also very obviously influenced John Williams for Star Wars. May 11 23:45
schestowitznot their fault, the composers and poets/authorsMay 11 23:45
DaemonFC[m]No, it's not.May 11 23:45
DaemonFC[m]Wagner lived and died a long time before the Nazis.May 11 23:45
schestowitzTrump appropriates some tooMay 11 23:45
schestowitzand they told him the f* wordMay 11 23:45
DaemonFC[m]His works are forever contaminated by it though.May 11 23:45
schestowitzRyan Paul did Rage Against the MachineMay 11 23:45
schestowitznot their faultMay 11 23:45
DaemonFC[m]Paul Ryan you mean?May 11 23:46
DaemonFC[m]He is the machine.May 11 23:46
DaemonFC[m]Their pupped anyway.May 11 23:46
DaemonFC[m]The only private sector job he ever had was driving an Oscar Mayer Wienermobile in college.May 11 23:46
schestowitzyeah, I often confuse the order... the author from Ars Technica had the same name but in reverseMay 11 23:46
DaemonFC[m]Then he became Speaker of the US House.May 11 23:46
schestowitzthen he became microphoneMay 11 23:46
schestowitzand then looMay 11 23:46
DaemonFC[m]People who aren't paying attention or aren't very smart will always end up being governed by a bunch of assholes who failed upwards and have no real qualifications.May 11 23:47
schestowitzthe new press sec looks like someone the pres wanted to have sex withMay 11 23:47
schestowitzrather than someone qualifiedMay 11 23:47
schestowitzreminds me of what he had said to stern about his kid, ivankaMay 11 23:47
DaemonFC[m]Hitler's biggest strength was governing by horrendous violence and terror.May 11 23:47
schestowitzdo they share spray-paint?May 11 23:47
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Public procurement and open source: levelling the playing field http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137495 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fbde04d5-ce92-4c63-ab7b-45e0ec88b59f]May 11 23:48
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Yeah, mom told me not to stress about the bankruptcy.May 11 23:48
DaemonFC[m]She says people get boats and fake tits and file bankruptcy.May 11 23:48
DaemonFC[m]I racked up the debt because of legal problems and living expenses.May 11 23:48
schestowitzpeople who did not agree with Hitler were being beaten upMay 11 23:48
DaemonFC[m]Or murdered.May 11 23:49
schestowitzThe American Dream is fast becoming American DimMay 11 23:49
DaemonFC[m]That'll make the people who see it happening shut up.May 11 23:49
DaemonFC[m]When there's no pretending to have laws anymore. People who speak up are just "dealt with".May 11 23:50
schestowitzfor now it has not happened yetMay 11 23:50
schestowitzmaybe because there's a strong atmosphere of resistanceMay 11 23:50
DaemonFC[m]It doesn't have to.May 11 23:50
schestowitzit'll get harder to organise now with all this social distancing thingMay 11 23:50
schestowitzExtinction Rebellion etc.May 11 23:50
DaemonFC[m]They just put someone who was only 8 months older than I am on the second highest court in the country.May 11 23:51
DaemonFC[m]The American Bar Association said he wasn't qualified.May 11 23:51
DaemonFC[m]It didn't matter.May 11 23:51
schestowitzwell, let me guess it's a Trump supporterMay 11 23:51
schestowitzand "all those women lied"May 11 23:51
DaemonFC[m]They're putting Republican Party hacks without the slightest understanding of the law on the highest courts.May 11 23:51
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It's their worst one yet.May 11 23:51
schestowitzyes, enjoy..May 11 23:51
DaemonFC[m]This guy hasn't even been a state court judge for an entire year.May 11 23:52
schestowitzhttps://boingboing.net/2018/01/23/the-very-very-best-people.htmlMay 11 23:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | The inexperienced man-child frat-rat that Trump made deputy drug czar got fired from his only real job for not showing up / Boing BoingMay 11 23:52
schestowitzthis is a satirical administrationMay 11 23:52
schestowitzexcept it's realMay 11 23:52
DaemonFC[m]We're getting fake judges who can barely adjudicate a Disorderly Conduct case at a county level sitting on the DC Circuit court now.May 11 23:53
schestowitzthat's why I told you, plan the exitMay 11 23:53
DaemonFC[m]It's nuts.May 11 23:53
schestowitzyour country isn't recovering since Bush IIMay 11 23:53
MinceRit's a lesson in the harms of the stateMay 11 23:53
schestowitzChina is terrible, but there are other decent placesMay 11 23:53
DaemonFC[m]Yes, because the federal court system is just a tyrannical arm of the Trump Campaign these days.May 11 23:54
DaemonFC[m]The only thing that sometimes stops that from happening is one guy that George W. Bush appointed.May 11 23:54
DaemonFC[m]It's very bad.May 11 23:54
DaemonFC[m]He was horrified that someone flushed a toilet while they were hearing livestream arguments.May 11 23:54
DaemonFC[m]The news was mocking the Supreme Court for it.May 11 23:55
DaemonFC[m]He's worried that people will stop taking the court seriously and paying attention to it.May 11 23:55
DaemonFC[m]That's exactly what should happen.May 11 23:55
DaemonFC[m]The federal courts are so far gone that it's usually worse that state's do listen to it, and it will be game over if Trump appoints one more judge.May 11 23:55
DaemonFC[m]*statesMay 11 23:56
DaemonFC[m]For every decision that comes down that stops the states from doing something horrible, you get 9 more that impose some horrible Trump policy on the states.May 11 23:56
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GNU/Linux: NFV, Open vSwitch, Compiling One's Own and China's Route to GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137496 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1b1f1557-f238-45f6-bae0-0e999f03f3eb]May 11 23:56
DaemonFC[m]It's just not worth letting the Supreme Court continue "settling" things.May 11 23:57
DaemonFC[m]States should just ignore it.May 11 23:57
DaemonFC[m]What is it going to do about it?May 11 23:57
DaemonFC[m]There is no mechanism by which the Supreme Court can punish a state that ignores it.May 11 23:57
DaemonFC[m]They're playing with fire here with all of these shitty rulings. That's going to destroy the legitimacy of the court and make people say to hell with them before anything else will.May 11 23:58
MinceRat least not bothering people too much for having firearms is going to make prepping for the inevitable collapse of the state easier :>May 11 23:59
DaemonFC[m]Governments rule by violence because it's what works.May 11 23:59
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I'm going to apply for a new FOID card as soon as this fucking probation is over.May 11 23:59
DaemonFC[m]Then I'm going to buy a gun the day it gets here.May 11 23:59
MinceR:)May 11 23:59

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