●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 ●● ● Aug 11 [00:05] *XRevan86 puts "189" into a search engine: "During the traffic stop, troopers seized a firearm, 189 ecstasy pills and a gram of marijuan" as a first result. [00:05] XRevan86 Not 228 but I'll take it. [00:05] MinceR :) [00:05] MinceR 419 [00:06] XRevan86 MinceR: "JucheNet" Juche Town? [00:06] MinceR \_()_/ [00:06] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:06] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:07] XRevan86 MinceR: What's 419? [00:07] MinceR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_scam [00:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Advance-fee scam - Wikipedia [00:08] XRevan86 "Max: 228-32" immortalised like that anyway (: [00:18] schestowitz Ariadne: http://techrights.org/2021/08/10/dui-public-office/ #epo #patent #corruption #nepotism #europe [00:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | An EPO Administrative Council Expos Part V: Sharing Out the Spoils of Public Office | Techrights [00:18] schestowitz lots more to come [00:19] schestowitz I need to make sure that when I fly the plane does not go near Albania though, in case they have a Lukashenko of their own [00:19] schestowitz XRevan86: tomorrow freenode might be 8k+ [00:19] schestowitz in relative terms they lose like 3% a day [00:20] schestowitz I dare not change nickname now [00:20] schestowitz that's "too much" for IRC [00:22] DaemonFC Some people are lying and saying they need a first dose of the COVID vaccine and it's actually a third, they're doing a "booster". [00:22] DaemonFC Even though we don't know 100% for sure what two doses does yet. [00:32] schestowitz has anyone here used elementaryOS? [00:33] schestowitz DaemonFC: BBC says that "adults" vax rate is at 70% now, but if they count overall population it's less than 60% [00:33] schestowitz and our PM lets it go loose, spreading to millions [00:33] schestowitz including kids [00:33] schestowitz elementaryOS has a new release [00:34] schestowitz lots o blog and vlog coverage [00:34] schestowitz seems decent, albeit hyped up [00:34] schestowitz China's distro is more interesting to me, kylin for example [00:36] XRevan86 schestowitz: So many scary things :). [00:38] MinceR i could determine that elementaryOS is garbage without trying it, so no [00:42] schestowitz-TR i think it is a rich spoiled boy distro [00:43] MinceR did you just assume their gender? [00:43] schestowitz-TR but if he uses his dad's wealth to make a distro and they make themes, tools etc. then all the better [00:43] schestowitz-TR MinceR: no, the person behind it [00:43] schestowitz-TR figosdev told me [00:44] MinceR :) [00:44] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvV2s4-cwoo [00:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Did Comcast Fix My Internet? Let's Go Live To Find Out! - YouTube [00:44] schestowitz weird [00:45] schestowitz the quality of youtube videos goes down [00:45] schestowitz it becomes #shorts [00:45] schestowitz a bunch of tiktok wannabes [00:45] schestowitz with lousy "content" looking to go "viral' [00:45] schestowitz no tripods, just some "phone" and "selfies" mode [00:47] schestowitz https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanponciano/2021/08/10/more-than-600-million-stolen-in-ethereum-and-other-cryptocurrencies-marking-one-of-cryptos-biggest-hacks-ever/?sh=413075dd7f62 [00:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | More Than $600 Million Stolen In Ethereum And Other CryptocurrenciesMarking One Of Cryptos Biggest Hacks Ever [00:48] schestowitz "sssshhhhhiiiit"-lee [00:48] MinceR "hack" [00:48] MinceR where's the playful cleverness in this? [00:49] schestowitz rhymes with cuck [00:49] schestowitz or f* [00:53] techrights-news Stable Vs Rolling: Which #Linux Release Is Better? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=212yJEH8-iA #video #invidious #multimedia | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/11/#latest [00:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Stable Vs Rolling: Which Linux Release Is Better? - Invidious [00:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [00:53] techrights-news An EPO Administrative Council Expos Part V: Sharing Out the Spoils of Public Office http://techrights.org/2021/08/10/dui-public-office/ #epo #patent #corruption #nepotism #europe [00:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | An EPO Administrative Council Expos Part V: Sharing Out the Spoils of Public Office | Techrights [00:59] DaemonFC schestowitz, Yeah, just checked our bank's interest rates. [00:59] DaemonFC The "relationship rate" is 0.03% APY. LOL [00:59] DaemonFC I'm moving most of our money to a high interest online savings account. ● Aug 11 [01:00] DaemonFC I can move it back and forth as needed, so there's really no risk, and then I can earn 17 times as much interest. [01:01] techrights-news #elementaryOS 6 ODIN Released. This is Whats New. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154364 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | elementary OS 6 ODIN Released. This is What's New. | Tux Machines [01:01] techrights-news Six more items covering #elementaryOS release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154362#comment-30502 #gnu #linux [01:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | elementary OS 6 "Odin" Officially Released, This Is What's New | Tux Machines [01:03] techrights-news Open-frame touch panel offers Android and Ubuntu options http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154365 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open-frame touch panel offers Android and Ubuntu options | Tux Machines [01:03] techrights-news #Ubuntu -based #elementaryOS 6 'Odin' Linux distribution is now available for download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154362#comment-30501 [01:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | elementary OS 6 "Odin" Officially Released, This Is What's New | Tux Machines [01:03] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: they got tired of giving incentive to save [01:04] schestowitz-TR they just hide inflation and interest rares for lenders [01:04] schestowitz-TR not saves [01:04] schestowitz-TR *savers [01:04] schestowitz-TR "COZ CORONA" [01:04] DaemonFC There's plenty of incentive to save, in treasury bonds. [01:04] DaemonFC They kind of hid I-Bonds but you can still buy them. [01:04] schestowitz-TR a/hide/hike/ [01:04] schestowitz-TR anyway, this is off topic [01:05] DaemonFC They like inflation because it's a way to steal from people without them realizing that their money is worthless now. [01:05] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154366 #Linux #TuxMachines [01:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:05] DaemonFC They don't need to increase taxes. Just make the money worth 6-7% less every year than it was last year. [01:05] techrights-news New videos about #elementaryOS 6 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154362#comment-30503 #gnu #linux [01:05] DaemonFC Instant flat tax. [01:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | elementary OS 6 "Odin" Officially Released, This Is What's New | Tux Machines [01:06] techrights-news #Firefox 92 Enters Public Beta Testing with AVIF Support Enabled by Default (Again) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154367 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 92 Enters Public Beta Testing with AVIF Support Enabled by Default (Again) | Tux Machines [01:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.65 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 50.15 swarm size (avg): 275.68 [01:12] DaemonFC 116 heat index today. [01:12] DaemonFC My car's thermometer for the outside temperature was saying 56 degrees. [01:13] DaemonFC I laughed. "Celsius, maybe.". [01:13] schestowitz-TR 15c here [01:13] schestowitz-TR perfect [01:13] DaemonFC It's fine in here thanks to the air conditioner. [01:13] schestowitz-TR I'm a lot more productive in these conditions [01:13] DaemonFC Don't go outside. [01:14] schestowitz-TR overheating demotivates [01:14] DaemonFC I'm sure it will help the Mostly Peaceful Tuesday in Chicago right along. [01:18] MinceR DO NOT LOOK AT THE MOON [01:19] techrights-news Grsync A Simple Graphical Frontend For Rsync http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154368 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Grsync A Simple Graphical Frontend For Rsync | Tux Machines [01:19] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154369 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [01:23] techrights-news #ZorinOS 16 Pro http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154370 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 16 Pro | Tux Machines [01:26] techrights-news #Radeon Software for Linux 21.30 Brings Support For Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS, RX 6600 XT - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Radeon-Software-Linux-21.30 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/11/#latest [01:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Radeon Software for Linux 21.30 Brings Support For Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS, RX 6600 XT - Phoronix [01:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [01:27] techrights-news #RADV Lands Fast Clear Improvements, Helping RDNA With VKD3D-Proton - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=RADV-Fast-Clear-Improvements #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/11/#latest [01:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RADV Lands Fast Clear Improvements, Helping RDNA With VKD3D-Proton - Phoronix [01:28] techrights-news #NVIDIA 470.63.01 is out for Linux adding VK_KHR_wayland_surface support | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/nvidia-4706301-is-out-for-linux-adding-vk-khr-wayland-surface-support #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/11/#latest [01:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NVIDIA 470.63.01 is out for Linux adding VK_KHR_wayland_surface support | GamingOnLinux [01:29] techrights-news #SDL version 2.0.16 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154371 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #deletegithub [01:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SDL version 2.0.16 | Tux Machines [01:31] *ciphrCat has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:35] techrights-news 10 Best Retro Games for #Android Device | Look Back to the Old Days https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-retro-games-for-android/ [01:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntupit.com | 10 Best Retro Games for Android Device | Look Back to the Old Days [01:36] techrights-news #NVIDIA and #AMD Drivers and Linux Graphics http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154372 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA and AMD Drivers and Linux Graphics | Tux Machines [01:39] techrights-news Delete #micrsoft and delete #windows https://www.itpro.co.uk/security/cyber-security/360521/new-malware-plants-backdoor-on-microsoft-web-server-software [01:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itpro.co.uk | New malware plants backdoor on Microsoft web server software | IT PRO [01:40] techrights-news "This is my story about how I found the Turris Omnia Linux router and how this lead to working together with the #Turris guys." https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/turris_and_syslog-ng/ [01:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-peter.czanik.hu | Turris, syslog-ng and me | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik [01:42] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:44] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@mcex8qb6hrzz8.irc) has joined #techrights [01:45] techrights-news Company Reveals All-Russian PCs Using an Arm SoC and Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154342#comment-30505 [01:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop and All-in-One Arm Linux computers launched with Baikal-M processor | Tux Machines [01:48] techrights-news Hacks.Mozilla.Org: Hopping on Firefox 91 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154345#comment-30506 [01:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Firefox 91 Arrives as the New ESR Series, Brings Back Simplified Printing | Tux Machines [01:49] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: you can now run /history #techrights 1h [01:49] schestowitz-TR to see what you missed [01:49] schestowitz-TR the server side supports that now [01:49] XRevan86 schestowitz: DaemonFC joined without Matrix when he learnt what ergoirc can do. [01:49] schestowitz-TR yeah [01:49] XRevan86 it gives him backlog automatically [01:50] techrights-news #GameMaker Studio 2 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154373 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GameMaker Studio 2 | Tux Machines [01:52] DaemonFC Nice [01:53] techrights-news Unofficial Razer Tweak Tool Polychromatic Offers a New Design & Supports All Devices http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154331#comment-30507 [01:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Steam Deck, Polychromatic 0.7, and Configuring Your Gaming Mouse Under Linux With Piper | Tux Machines [01:55] techrights-news "There can be little doubt that Safet Emrulis appointment as head of the SOIP and subsequent reappointment in 2018 were significantly influenced by party political considerations. #europe #epo #corruption #patents #soip http://techrights.org/2021/08/10/dui-public-office/ [01:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | An EPO Administrative Council Expos Part V: Sharing Out the Spoils of Public Office | Techrights [01:58] techrights-news This targets #proprietarysoftware , not "Linux" https://www.bankinfosecurity.com/blackmatter-group-debuts-linux-targeting-ransomware-a-17244 proprietary software that violated #gpl in #linux http://techrights.org/2020/04/28/openwashing-vmware-after-gpl-abuses/ [01:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bankinfosecurity.com | BlackMatter Group Debuts Linux-Targeting Ransomware [01:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Has Helped VMware Lie About Its Deliberate GPL Violations That are Connected to Microsoft, Another Prolific GPL Violator | Techrights ● Aug 11 [02:01] techrights-news This is not a "Linux" issue but a weak password issue; stop blaming #Linux for things it has nothing to do with, like brute-force password guessing https://www.techradar.com/news/synology-nas-devices-are-being-hacked-to-target-linux-systems [02:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Synology NAS devices are being hacked to target Linux systems | TechRadar [02:03] techrights-news #linux is a #kernel so there is no "Linux cut command". https://www.networkworld.com/article/3628236/using-the-linux-cut-command-to-grab-portions-of-lines-from-files.html It's a #GNU program http://techrights.org/2021/05/10/rms-on-his-gnu-programs/ [02:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Using the Linux cut command to grab portions of lines from files | Network World [02:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman on Writing rm, ls, and cp (Also Working on Bison) | Techrights [02:05] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [02:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.85 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 24.58 swarm size (avg): 275.62 [02:13] techrights-news #Security and Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) Against Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154374 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) Against Linux | Tux Machines [02:15] techrights-news "Linux Studio is a development environment created particularly for native host development" https://www.electropages.com/2021/08/development-environment-available-linux-developers [02:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.electropages.com | Development environment available to Linux developers [02:17] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@t4fw36yh4pqu6.irc) has joined #techrights [02:17] techrights-news "The #RouterOS scripting language is unique. It can be difficult to develop and debug your scripts, though. The script interpreter just quits when it encounters a syntax error without returning any error messages." https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/review-mikrotik-rb750gr3.html [02:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | Review of MikroTik hEX (3rd rev.) as a home router [02:20] techrights-news #LinuxMint vs #Ubuntu : 15 Facts To Know Before Choosing The Best One http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154375 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint vs Ubuntu: 15 Facts To Know Before Choosing The Best One | Tux Machines [02:21] DaemonFC Lenovo put in a 45 watt hour battery in this laptop for some reason. [02:21] DaemonFC Had they put in a 66 watt hour battery like my last one had, this thing probably could have operated for 11-12 hours. Apparently, they don't want to be able to market it that bad. [02:22] DaemonFC The CPU package improved power management a lot since Skylake, so they just put in a smaller battery. [02:22] MinceR it would also have been heavier [02:22] DaemonFC So there's no runtime improvement at all. [02:23] techrights-news Why outsource to #Microsoft 's #proprietarysoftware #monopoly h It is not free, it is a trap. https://major.io/2021/08/06/build-fedora-aws-images-in-github-actions-with-image-builder/ #deletegithub http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [02:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-major.io | Build Fedora AWS images in GitHub Actions with Image Builder | Major Hayden's Blog [02:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [02:24] techrights-news #Linux 4.4.280 and Linux #Graphics http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154376 [02:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 4.4.280 and Linux Graphics | Tux Machines [02:27] techrights-news #Fedora Linux 36 development schedule http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154377 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Linux 36 development schedule | Tux Machines [02:27] techrights-news Holo Clock is a novel 3D-printed clock that tells time using a pair of rings | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/08/10/holo-clock-is-a-novel-3d-printed-clock-that-tells-time-using-a-pair-of-rings/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/11/#latest [02:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Holo Clock is a novel 3D-printed clock that tells time using a pair of rings | Arduino Blog [02:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [02:29] techrights-news #KDEGear 21.08: An ad for Dolphin, KDEs file explorer and manager - Kockatoo Tube https://tube.kockatoo.org/w/59a31698-2136-4af6-9b81-2c3fa2f329cc [02:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tube.kockatoo.org | KDE Gear 21.08: An ad for Dolphin, KDE's file explorer and manager - Kockatoo Tube [02:31] techrights-news " #GDB MI allows applications to connect to GDB without actually running it from the terminal, this is how frontends talks to GDB. Most of the time this is how users actually use GDB for debugging." #gnu #debugger #freesw #programming https://da-viper.github.io/post/week9kdesoc/ #deletegithub #gsoc [02:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-da-viper.github.io | GSOC Printers: GDB Machine Interface - Ebuka's Blog [02:32] schestowitz * Current global users: 9133 Max: 22832 [02:33] schestowitz 60 fewer than a few hours ago [02:34] techrights-news "looks like #freenode is looking to outdo #ircnet when it comes to netsplits" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-100821.html#tAug%2010%2016:12:16 #irc [02:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 [02:35] techrights-news New Videos: KDE Gear, Stable Vs Rolling, and pearOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154378 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Videos: KDE Gear, Stable Vs Rolling, and pearOS | Tux Machines [02:36] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. 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[02:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 [02:38] techrights-news #KDAB propping up #microsoft #proprietarySoftware that encourages people to violate the #gpl :/ https://www.kdab.com/improving-cpp-dev-in-vs-code/ [02:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Improving C++ Development in Visual Studio Code - KDAB [02:38] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-100821.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-100821.txt Read the log now... 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[02:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 [02:40] techrights-news #programming or "automation"? https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/expand-your-possibilities-automation [02:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Expand your possibilities with automation [02:41] techrights-news "There is a new application available for Sparkers: Gammy" https://sparkylinux.org/gammy/ [02:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sparkylinux.org | Gammy SparkyLinux [02:42] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-08-10.txt [02:45] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [02:45] AdmFubar https://www.alternet.org/2021/08/facebook-lies/ [02:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The real reason Facebook is enabling right-wing lies to flourish - Alternet.org [02:48] schestowitz-TR let me guess... [02:48] schestowitz-TR user "engagement" [02:49] schestowitz-TR selling ads by 'traumatiisng' people [02:49] *gde35|2 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/) [02:50] schestowitz * ChanServ has quit (Shutting down) [02:50] schestowitz from freenode [02:51] AdmFubar don't guess read the article [02:52] schestowitz too many popups [02:52] schestowitz it used to be a good site [02:52] schestowitz and I read it over rss [02:52] schestowitz then it got hijacked by partisan hacks [02:53] schestowitz it was no longer alternative media [02:53] AdmFubar that is what ublock origin is for [02:54] schestowitz-TR if your browser supports those [02:55] techrights-news "Kubernetes aka K8s has grown from a simple container orchestration tool originally designed for internal use at Google to a vibrant open source community and the preferred platform for deploying, monitoring, and managing apps and services across clouds." https://appdevelopermagazine.com/kubernetes-for-the-enterprise-as-canonical-sees-it/ [02:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-appdevelopermagazine.com | Kubernetes for the enterprise as Canonical sees it | App Developer Magazine [02:57] techrights-news Surveillance in the name of 'security' is a bad compromise https://prezu.ca/post/2021-07-30-totp-1/ [02:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-prezu.ca | How does Google Authenticator work? (Part 1) [02:57] AdmFubar you can pull the blocker lists and add them to your hosts file.. [02:58] CrystalMath XRevan86: ChanServ changed its ident to services.joseon.kr [02:58] CrystalMath it seems that freenode may be getting ready for a renaming after all [02:58] schestowitz-TR this is crazy [02:58] schestowitz-TR freenode will die [02:58] schestowitz-TR for the ego of a stoned cretin [02:59] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I'm chuckling, so far the freenode drama has been hugely entertaining. [02:59] XRevan86 and somehow there is more stuff to come [02:59] schestowitz-TR root is user #0 ● Aug 11 [03:00] schestowitz-TR so technically freenode might end up with zero users [03:00] CrystalMath actually in C if index 0 in an array is valid then the array has 1 member [03:00] schestowitz-TR yes, I know [03:00] schestowitz-TR I was totally joking [03:01] schestowitz-TR but at this stage freenode does not need 22 servers [03:01] schestowitz-TR they could consilidate in 2 [03:01] schestowitz-TR they could consolidate in 2 [03:02] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:03] techrights-news Eileen McDermott at #watchtroll gives attention to cranks who decide to sue a former official, Michelle Lee, for doing the right things about #patents in #uspto http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Watchtroll [03:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Watchtroll - Techrights [03:03] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I'm genuinely curious about one thing [03:04] MinceR only one? [03:04] XRevan86 CrystalMath: so the Joseon branding to whom is it going to appeal? [03:05] MinceR andrew lee [03:05] schestowitz-TR lenders maybe [03:05] CrystalMath XRevan86: people who enjoy korean doramas? [03:05] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [03:05] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Is that a big intersection with IRC users? [03:05] CrystalMath it could become one! [03:05] schestowitz-TR lol [03:05] schestowitz-TR no way [03:06] XRevan86 MinceR: But #0 is already in [03:06] CrystalMath just tell them there's a real prince you can talk to there with this app [03:06] schestowitz-TR in 30 years (almost) in IRC I NEVER met a korean here [03:06] schestowitz-TR in any network [03:06] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: but you met Andrew Lee on freenode [03:06] CrystalMath #techrights [03:06] schestowitz-TR CrystalMath: forget about princes [03:06] schestowitz-TR people are "kings" of their homes [03:07] schestowitz-TR and toilets are their thrones [03:07] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Well, he's Korean in a very loose sense, no? [03:07] schestowitz-TR CrystalMath: he's a crank, not a prince [03:07] CrystalMath XRevan86: he is ethnically korean [03:07] CrystalMath and the crown prince of Joseon [03:07] XRevan86 CrystalMath: culturally Usonian [03:07] CrystalMath there was a ceremony [03:07] schestowitz-TR by? [03:07] CrystalMath i mean... yes, a lot of the royal family had to escape when japan invaded [03:07] schestowitz-TR Gov of Korea? [03:08] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: of course not, the royal family [03:08] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Right, and Joseon is ruling an IRC network [03:08] MinceR they had the radical freedom to stay [03:08] schestowitz-TR CrystalMath: which has not existed is like 100+ years [03:08] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.58 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 52.81 swarm size (avg): 275.57 [03:08] schestowitz-TR people he never even met [03:08] schestowitz-TR anyway... [03:08] schestowitz-TR I have real issues to attend to [03:08] schestowitz-TR not xanadu fantasyland [03:09] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Maybe I'm assuming, I don't really know if he knows Korean for instance. [03:09] MinceR well, north korea apparently does officially refer to itself as "Chosn Minjujui Inmin Konghwaguk", where choson is supposed to be the same as joseon [03:09] techrights-ipfs-bot Gemini requests since start of month: 88476 total Total pages: 37026 Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 2 months 2 days ago [03:09] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: i'm pretty sure they didn't meet on the day they just decided to give him the throne [03:09] CrystalMath MinceR: yes but that's not the same country, technically [03:09] CrystalMath just like technically serbia isn't yugoslavia [03:09] schestowitz-TR it is not a country [03:09] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:09] MinceR another pretender [03:09] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 1.8 GB TotalOut: 424 MB [03:09] techrights-ipfs-bot New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [03:10] schestowitz-TR and it never was [03:10] CrystalMath also the kingdom of yugoslavia is not the same as the socialist federal republic of yugoslavia [03:10] CrystalMath these are two different states [03:10] CrystalMath there are states with no territory [03:10] CrystalMath some are even EU members! [03:10] CrystalMath the order of malta for example [03:10] CrystalMath (not malta, but the order of malta) [03:10] schestowitz-TR city of london etc. [03:10] schestowitz-TR but those are symbolic [03:11] schestowitz-TR less so than vatican [03:11] schestowitz-TR anyway, back to work.. [03:11] MinceR sealand [03:11] MinceR liberland [03:11] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@t4fw36yh4pqu6.irc) has joined #techrights [03:11] CrystalMath https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_Military_Order_of_Malta [03:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Sovereign Military Order of Malta - Wikipedia [03:11] CrystalMath recognized officially [03:11] CrystalMath has diplomatic relations with most countries [03:11] CrystalMath but no territory at all [03:11] techrights-ipfs-bot QmSkz4YGj3vTuC8Q6t7fPmQkSbvtThba65AHUjyotSbHLW [03:11] techrights-news #patent booster Dennis Crouch, funded by the #litigation lobby, also gives coverage to a crank https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/hoyle-v-lee.html [03:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Hoyle v. Lee | Patently-O [03:12] MinceR one alleged sovereign state was not enough for the catholics, they had to have two? [03:12] CrystalMath MinceR: is a (partial?) EU member, with all of its 0 square meters of territory [03:12] CrystalMath i'm just saying [03:12] CrystalMath you don't NEED territory to be a state [03:12] CrystalMath the state is a virtual structure [03:12] XRevan86 a state of mind [03:12] MinceR :) [03:13] MinceR a spook [03:13] techrights-news When did the US #patent system give so much of a rise to charlatans and frauds? Even the #uspto tries to distance itself from some, e.g. http://techrights.org/2018/10/06/tax-evasion-and-patents/ [03:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Is Hyatt an Inventor or a Tax Evader? | Techrights [03:13] CrystalMath i believe Joseon is perfectly valid [03:13] schestowitz-TR CrystalMath: same people with fake wealth [03:13] schestowitz-TR I have some bytes and bites here [03:13] schestowitz-TR so I am very rich [03:13] schestowitz-TR but my bank says millions in debt [03:13] XRevan86 CrystalMath: There's a sect of USSR believers [03:13] CrystalMath but Joseon has a historical importance to it [03:13] schestowitz-TR I ignore that [03:13] DaemonFC https://www.pcmag.com/news/biggest-software-flops-of-all-time [03:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Biggest Software Flops of All Time | PCMag [03:13] schestowitz-TR I have bytes and bits [03:13] DaemonFC GNU HURD is on the list. [03:13] XRevan86 they're in hundreds of thousands [03:14] CrystalMath XRevan86: they believe the USSR is still real? [03:14] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Maybe they can orrange diplomatic relations with Joseon [03:14] XRevan86 CrystalMath: yes [03:14] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: I saw that [03:14] MinceR so, how does the SMOM manage to save its members from the depredations of other states? [03:14] DaemonFC It's fair, I suppose. [03:14] XRevan86 * arrange [03:14] CrystalMath MinceR: they live where they aren't bothered i guess [03:14] DaemonFC HURD works, it just isn't very stable or useful. [03:15] CrystalMath MinceR: there aren't many of them [03:15] schestowitz CrystalMath: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/freenode.txt [03:15] MinceR CrystalMath: where is that? they don't have territory of their own [03:15] CrystalMath MinceR: yes but they go around catholic countries [03:15] CrystalMath where they're not bothered for sacred reasons [03:15] schestowitz "the nations with more physical power and nuke stomp on intl' law" [03:15] CrystalMath similar to the vatican [03:15] MinceR ah, so they rely on fundamentalist states [03:15] CrystalMath probably they hang around in the vatican most of the time [03:16] CrystalMath interestingly i learned they have nothing to do with actual malta [03:16] CrystalMath nor do they claim anything in malta [03:16] schestowitz Lee: "The rest of us are meh. Even me, it's funny that people are like 'ahh lee is rich rich rich' but its like... yeah sure, im richer than the average, but i dont think they understand whats going on in the world. I'm like definitely at the bottom of any rich list if I'm even on one. :P" [03:16] schestowitz " So basically, I'm hoping to open citizenship to the digital nation of joseon to eveyrone in the world" [03:16] schestowitz crank talk [03:16] schestowitz he thinks he can convert IRC networks into fake nations [03:16] CrystalMath digital nation of joseon! [03:16] schestowitz maybe that's his endgame [03:16] MinceR fundamentalism has certainly be handy in helping cultists get away with not paying taxes [03:17] CrystalMath that is pretty amazing [03:17] MinceR s/be/been/ [03:17] schestowitz CrystalMath: yes, total craziness [03:17] CrystalMath i'd like to see how it goes [03:17] schestowitz so he destroyed an entire IRC network [03:17] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [03:17] schestowitz just to buy an illusion of "digital" citizen [03:17] schestowitz of some fantasy land he claims to be the ruler of [03:18] schestowitz naturalisation in irc.com [03:18] schestowitz put email address [03:18] schestowitz welcome, not you are governed by a stoner [03:18] schestowitz *now [03:18] schestowitz " [03:19] schestowitz [20:55] and everyone that joins will get an equal amoun tof a coin [03:19] schestowitz [20:55] which the coin will only have enough for 8billion people. [03:19] schestowitz [20:55] and everyone gets the same amount. [03:19] schestowitz " [03:19] schestowitz so now you see what he had in mind [03:19] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@z8pckacdu5uwu.irc) has joined #techrights [03:20] DaemonFC Microsoft just pushed a cumulative update that only includes a fix for that PrintNightmare thing. [03:21] schestowitz-TR they should self-delete [03:21] schestowitz-TR and put gnu/linux instead [03:21] MinceR people should use a free unix for printing [03:21] schestowitz-TR will save them trouble and money [03:21] schestowitz-TR they can focus on business areas where they still make money, like... [03:21] *schestowitz-TR thinks [03:21] *schestowitz-TR thinks [03:21] schestowitz-TR oh. [03:21] MinceR :> [03:22] schestowitz-TR sucking up to Trump for bailouts [03:22] schestowitz-TR or to Biden for 22 billion in Pentagon contract for "HOLOLENS" [03:22] schestowitz-TR a company that does not exist [03:22] activelow good morning [03:22] schestowitz-TR Microsoft fired ALL its staff [03:23] schestowitz-TR Microsoft = Fraud Inc. [03:23] schestowitz-TR maybe when bill gates goes down in flames in cuomo even biden will refuse to associate with or bail out Microsoftt [03:24] techrights-news #EPO granting #fakepatents and only lawyers win https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/agile-diffraction-and-femtonics-battle-at-epo-over-medical-laser-technology/ [03:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Agile Diffraction and Femtonics battle at EPO over medical laser technology - JUVE Patent [03:26] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [03:26] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [03:30] activelow microsoft stock prize increased 999% in the last decade [03:31] schestowitz-TR fraud [03:31] MinceR it's a bubble, like apple [03:31] techrights-news Firefox 91 Available to Download, This is Whats New http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154345#comment-30509 [03:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Firefox 91 Arrives as the New ESR Series, Brings Back Simplified Printing | Tux Machines [03:31] schestowitz-TR activelow: a decade ago they had monopoly market share [03:31] schestowitz-TR now, what do they have? [03:32] schestowitz https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt [03:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tradingeconomics.com | United States Government Debt | 1942-2021 Data | 2022-2023 Forecast | Historical [03:32] schestowitz US national debt more than doubled in the past decade alone [03:32] schestowitz in less than a decade [03:32] schestowitz they just pass money to people [03:32] schestowitz the public becomes indebted to them [03:33] schestowitz USSR version 2 [03:33] schestowitz just waiting for the mic to drop [03:33] *XRevan86 can't stop laughing [03:33] schestowitz-TR drumming up war with china [03:33] schestowitz-TR and blaming russssha [03:34] XRevan86 cryptocurrency for crypto-Joseon :D [03:34] techrights-news Difference between #Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Server https://linuxhint.com/ubuntu-desktop-ubuntu-server-difference/ #gnu #linux [03:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | Difference between Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Server [03:34] activelow apple stocks exploded too [03:34] activelow impossible to bail-out [03:34] XRevan86 activelow: It's because IRC.com is available for iOS [03:35] techrights-news FIPS 140-2 certification for #Ubuntu 20.04 LTS! https://ubuntu.com//blog/fips-certification-ubuntu-20-04-lts #gnu #linux http://techrights.org/2021/07/09/canonical-ubuntu-microsoft/ [03:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FIPS 140-2 certification for Ubuntu 20.04 LTS! | Ubuntu [03:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Canonical Dooms the Ubuntu Brand to Appease Microsoft | Techrights [03:35] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: maybe you can pay back the bank in "CRYPTO"? [03:37] XRevan86 schestowitz: Oh, he really should read-up on the USSR sect :D [03:37] XRevan86 they did some stuff [03:38] XRevan86 The way they gaslight police, courts and banks is impressive stuff. [03:39] schestowitz-TR wait, are we talking about Putin? :-p [03:39] XRevan86 No, no, there are people who deny that USSR dissolved. [03:40] XRevan86 there are many factions with varying narratives that support their view [03:41] techrights-news #Debian and #Ubuntu Miscellany http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154380 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [03:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian and Ubuntu Miscellany | Tux Machines [03:41] techrights-news "If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants Issac Newton, 1675. Although it should be credited to 12th century Bernard of Chartres. You will know why I have shared this, probably at the beginning of Civil Aviation history itself." https://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2021/08/11/bbi-ip-report-state-borders-and-civil-aviation-i/ [03:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-flossexperiences.wordpress.com | BBI, IP report, State Borders and Civil Aviation I Experiences in the community [03:44] techrights-news 7 Tips to Speed Up #TorBrowser - Make Tech Easier https://www.maketecheasier.com/make-tor-faster/ #maketecheasier | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/11/#latest [03:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 7 Tips to Speed Up Tor Browser - Make Tech Easier [03:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [03:45] techrights-news Does #linuxhint realise that people subscribe for LINUX stories? They doom the site by pushing #windows #spam [03:46] techrights-news #linuxhint seems to have been compromised by #microsoft hacks, not just #amazons spammers. I cannot recommend that site anymore... infiltrated by rogues. [03:49] techrights-news #microsoft has a long history of infiltrating and destroying pro- #gnu #linux sites, e.g. #softpedia http://techrights.org/2020/05/12/softpedia-change/ [03:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Team Microsoft Took Control of Softpedia to Control Coverage About GNU/Linux | Techrights [03:56] schestowitz XRevan86: * Current global users: 8969 Max: 22832 [03:56] schestowitz woohoo [03:56] schestowitz his kingdom is like north korea [03:57] schestowitz those who can, leave [03:57] XRevan86 schestowitz: He should put a portrait on the homepage. [03:58] XRevan86 As a reminder of who the President is. [03:58] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154381 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [03:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [03:58] techrights-news News roundup: #PinePhone keyboard, mainline Linux kernel, and #Waydroid http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154382 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [03:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | News roundup: PinePhone keyboard, mainline Linux kernel, and Waydroid | Tux Machines [03:59] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: not yet [03:59] schestowitz-TR you leap a stage [03:59] schestowitz-TR first it becomes his personal blog [03:59] schestowitz-TR prior to that, he became "root" [03:59] schestowitz-TR prior to that, he took over channels [03:59] schestowitz-TR one step at a time [03:59] XRevan86 freenode definitely increasingly becomes more and more about him. ● Aug 11 [04:00] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:00] schestowitz-TR now the chanserv is called after the dictatorship [04:00] schestowitz-TR freenode by irc.com [04:00] schestowitz-TR Lee by irc.com [04:00] schestowitz-TR Lee by Lee [04:00] schestowitz-TR long live the king [04:00] schestowitz-TR Freenode is LEE [04:00] schestowitz-TR FOSS is LEE [04:01] schestowitz-TR LEELO [04:01] XRevan86 schestowitz: I wonder what Lee thinks about the ideas of Juche. [04:02] techrights-news Interesting... so #linuxhint over #RSS is 'spamming' #microsoft "content", whereas the site itself sort of masks or hides that. Either way, bodes well for what people running that site are trying to accomplish. [04:02] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: I don't know what it's about [04:03] schestowitz-TR I saw that mentioned some time when I was at work [04:03] schestowitz-TR k00ks attract k00ks [04:03] schestowitz-TR they reaffirm their beliefs to one another [04:03] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's like Stalinism but a Korean flavour. [04:04] MinceR 11 045759 < XRevan86> schestowitz: He should put a portrait on the homepage. [04:05] MinceR only if it comes in the stalinist style [04:06] XRevan86 Turkmenistan is making people swear an oath on Quran to never use VPN :) [04:07] XRevan86 that's one nation Joseon will never have any relations with [04:07] techrights-news #Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, August 10, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [04:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.73 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.01 swarm size (avg): 275.53 [04:07] techrights-news #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:07] CrystalMath XRevan86: juche? don't give him ideas please:P [04:08] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I think the ideas on leadership (what some call "cult of personality") will resonate. [04:09] techrights-news #4K2K PDAF camera targets i.MX8M and i.MX8M Mini http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154383 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [04:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4K2K PDAF camera targets i.MX8M and i.MX8M Mini | Tux Machines [04:10] schestowitz oh, I see... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche [04:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Juche - Wikipedia [04:10] schestowitz "Juche (/dute/; About this soundEnglish pronunciation (helpinfo); Korean: ; lit. subject; Korean pronunciation: [tute]; usually left untranslated[1] or translated as "self-reliance") is the official ideology of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, described by the government as "Kim Il-sung's original, brilliant and revolutionary contribution to national and international thought".[2] It postulates that "man is the [04:10] schestowitz master of his destiny",[3] that the masses are to act as the "masters of the revolution and construction", and that by becoming self-reliant and strong, a nation can achieve true socialism.[3]" [04:10] schestowitz LOL, wtf? [04:10] MinceR starving to death is indeed brilliant and revolutionary [04:11] schestowitz-TR yeah [04:11] schestowitz "Kim Il-sung (19121994) developed the ideology, which was originally viewed as a variant of MarxismLeninism until it became a distinct ideology[2] while it incorporated the historical materialist ideas of MarxismLeninism and strongly emphasized the individual, the nation state and its sovereignty" [04:11] schestowitz The original Kim [04:11] schestowitz now the fattest kim [04:11] schestowitz who hoards all the food [04:12] schestowitz btw, ceo of ltm (the pia parent) is a kim [04:12] schestowitz "The ideology developed after losing its original MarxistLeninist elements.[4][5] According to North Korea: A Country Study by Robert L. Worden, MarxismLeninism was abandoned immediately after the start of de-Stalinisation in the Soviet Union and it has been totally replaced by Juche since at least 1974." [04:13] schestowitz how is this pronounced? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:En-US-Juche.ogg [04:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:En-US-Juche.ogg - Wikipedia [04:13] schestowitz juicy!!! [04:13] schestowitz sort of [04:15] XRevan86 I wonder how Koreans pronounce it. The Russian transcription goes like Chuchkhe, where kh is /x/, of course. [04:16] XRevan86 > [tute] [04:16] schestowitz-TR the ogg files sounds like hangul mspeaker [04:16] XRevan86 Actually Chuchhe, where "h" is aspiration. [04:17] schestowitz-TR remember "chits"? [04:17] schestowitz-TR in the kingdom of emperor FN by irc.com you get to chit on the wife [04:17] XRevan86 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%EC%A3%BC%EC%B2%B4#Korean at least that's the Seoul pronunciation as stated here [04:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | - Wiktionary [04:18] techrights-news #ExpressVPN Opens Up Its Lightway VPN Protocol http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154384 #deletegithub #microsoft #proprietarySoftware #monopoly http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [04:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ExpressVPN Opens Up Its Lightway VPN Protocol | Tux Machines [04:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [04:18] XRevan86 schestowitz: "the ogg files sounds like hangul mspeaker" it's called En-US-Juche.ogg for a reason. [04:19] techrights-news " #patent monetization company, identified as its managing member." #patentTrolls with #swpats ... #fakepatents #ptab https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/8/4/pacsec3-564-patent-challenged [04:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | PacSec3 '564 patent challenged Unified Patents [04:20] schestowitz-TR so us has its own 'dialect' of hangul now? [04:20] XRevan86 "Juche (/dute/; English pronunciation" [04:20] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's for people who don't know what the accepted pronunciation in English is. [04:23] XRevan86 I am exposed to two versions that are barely alike, so I got curious which one is more accurate. [04:23] techrights-news Gross misuse of meaningless mumbo-jumbo like "HEY HI" and propaganda like "IP" when actually speaking about something else; this is unscientific rubbish disguised as science; philosophy self-indulgence at best. https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1086166/ai-and-ip-implications-for-digital-health-from-possible-reforms-to-uk-ip-law [04:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | AI And IP: Implications For Digital Health From Possible Reforms To UK IP Law - Intellectual Property - UK [04:23] XRevan86 But it could also be a dialectal thing in Korean. [04:24] XRevan86 Like Beijing/Peking in Chinese [04:24] techrights-news #germany has long enabled #epo #corruption for #patent euros. Now it does this: https://www.mondaq.com/germany/trade-secrets/1085738/germany-passes-law-to-restrict-injunctive-relief-in-patent-cases-by-proportionality-considerations see this series: http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/bundestagate-part-20/ [04:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Germany Passes Law To Restrict Injunctive Relief In Patent Cases By Proportionality Considerations - Intellectual Property - Germany [04:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPOLeaks on Misleading the Bundestag Part 20: Taking Stock | Techrights [04:25] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: anyone still saying Peking? [04:25] schestowitz-TR excert er suck? [04:25] schestowitz-TR oops [04:25] schestowitz-TR re duck [04:25] schestowitz-TR *except regarding the duck? [04:26] schestowitz-TR when I was a child people said Peking [04:26] schestowitz-TR that seems to have changed later [04:26] MinceR people still say "Peking" in hungary [04:27] schestowitz-TR where china controls education [04:27] schestowitz-TR it's bizarre that a right-wing regime will succumb to "foreigners" [04:27] XRevan86 schestowitz: If I remember correctly, Peking is from Cantonese [04:28] schestowitz-TR I guess some "foreigners" are "better" (richer) than others [04:28] XRevan86 when Putonghua got a lot more prominent, the transliteration switched to that phonology [04:28] schestowitz-TR and those "foreigners" are not even rich, except collectively when you add up 1,500 million of them [04:31] XRevan86 schestowitz: English has a tendency of re-adopting proper names when phonology changes, in some areas more than in others. [04:32] XRevan86 https://twitter.com/irydacea/status/1425295449221734401 [04:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@irydacea: this is the new freenode autonomous zone. you can't make this stuff up https://t.co/18pfvsB70Q [04:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@irydacea: this is the new freenode autonomous zone. you can't make this stuff up https://t.co/18pfvsB70Q [04:32] XRevan86 schestowitz: I'm going to update the bot connection settings. [04:32] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.eu/irydacea/status/1425295449221734401 [04:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Queen Iris (@irydacea): "this is the new freenode autonomous zone. you can't make this stuff up" | nitter [04:32] XRevan86 techrights will now be bridged with irc.joseon.kr [04:33] MinceR for now, the bridge is still up :> [04:33] *XRevan86 looks at "[irc.freenode]' hmmm [04:33] XRevan86 that should be [irc.joseon] [04:34] techrights-news Was #freenode taken over in a hostile fashion? DEFINITELY. Now we have proof. https://nitter.eu/irydacea/status/1425295449221734401 [04:34] schestowitz-TR network of crackpots and cranks [04:34] schestowitz-TR that's why I would not sign up for anything in irc.com [04:34] schestowitz-TR it's like a pseudo naturalisation thing [04:34] XRevan86 schestowitz: Ye already did though. [04:34] schestowitz-TR kape looks yet worse now... if that's possible at all [04:35] schestowitz-TR this won't end well... [04:35] schestowitz-TR debt, ego, blood [04:35] MinceR sure it will [04:35] schestowitz-TR maybe a divorce soon... after the foreclosure [04:36] MinceR it will end with the extinction of humans :> [04:36] schestowitz-TR not yet [04:36] schestowitz-TR covid19 is too weak [04:36] schestowitz-TR [sarcasm][ [04:36] schestowitz-TR MinceR: on a serious note though: [04:37] schestowitz-TR isolating from people is now socially acceptable [04:37] schestowitz-TR I like that aspect [04:37] XRevan86 pause for a bit, bridge is restarting [04:37] schestowitz-TR "roy, you didn't leave the house for a WEEK!" [04:37] schestowitz-TR "yeah, so?" [04:37] schestowitz-TR "safety first" [04:37] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [04:37] MinceR :) [04:37] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [04:37] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [04:37] XRevan86 And we're back. [04:38] schestowitz * Current global users: 8955 Max: 22832 [04:38] MinceR SARS-CoV-2 is not working alone :> [04:38] schestowitz it is only ever decreasing [04:38] schestowitz might be 7,000 by month's end [04:38] schestowitz but never underestimate domain change [04:38] schestowitz not to irc.com [04:38] schestowitz but mememememem!!.org [04:39] schestowitz and maybe people will sigh and walk away [04:39] XRevan86 Yea, all my predictions failed due to my lack of imagination. [04:39] MinceR next: irc.andrew.lee [04:39] schestowitz XRevan86: did you put back the bridge in another network? [04:39] MinceR it's in another shard of leenode [04:39] schestowitz I cannot see it restored or reinstated in freenode [04:40] MinceR not the one i'm in [04:40] XRevan86 schestowitz: They appear to be temporarily split. [04:40] XRevan86 I moved it to the new one. [04:40] schestowitz so the crackpot figures he can prop up an illusion of citizens [04:40] schestowitz by hijacking an actual community [04:40] schestowitz of about 100k users online [04:40] schestowitz more inc. offliners [04:40] schestowitz and then 'convert' them to his cult [04:41] schestowitz look at the .txt file [04:41] schestowitz seems like this is his endgame [04:41] XRevan86 schestowitz: I'm going to go sleep, and this arrangement looks more stable. [04:41] schestowitz it's a scammy thing [04:41] MinceR well, if he wanted to retain a significant fraction of existing users, then he's really seriously doing it wrong [04:41] schestowitz 23 users in freenode [04:41] schestowitz was almost 100 in May [04:41] MinceR requiring SASL to connect is not the way to do that [04:42] MinceR also, losing services database is also not the way to do that [04:42] schestowitz chanserv is down [04:42] MinceR and pissing off people by taking over their channels is also not the way to do that [04:42] schestowitz I guess travelling [04:42] schestowitz upside it, our longtime plan is self-hosting became reality [04:42] XRevan86 schestowitz: Welcome to Joseon :D [04:42] schestowitz and with enough motivation for all to adopt it [04:43] schestowitz XRevan86: welcome to a server [04:43] schestowitz and a domain [04:43] schestowitz rented off some regisrar [04:43] schestowitz all they need now is some ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads [04:43] XRevan86 schestowitz: If ye re-connect, ye'll appear on the Joseon side of the current netsplit. [04:43] schestowitz but I would need to register [04:44] schestowitz orr.... [04:44] schestowitz did that other domain open up again to anon access? [04:44] XRevan86 schestowitz: Why would it? [04:45] schestowitz [04:45] [Users] Current users on the network: 8656 Max: 22832 [04:46] XRevan86 schestowitz: Joseon is in a middle of a netsplit, so the numbers won't be accurate now. [04:48] techrights-news #freenode endgame is to pretend what's LEFT of freenode users are somehow "citizens" of the fake nation of a fake "prince" (admission from months ago). This is like a scam of a crackpot in deep debt. http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/freenode.txt [04:49] MinceR 11 054331 <~schestowitz> all they need now is some ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads [04:49] MinceR a slightly more challenging step [04:49] techrights-news #freenode is to #techrights just legacy at this stage. The current network is in effect compromised and should be treated as such. http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ [04:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Channels | Techrights [04:49] MinceR maybe they'll keep the netsplit going and declare one part "north" and the other "south" [04:50] XRevan86 MinceR: Hah. But no, chat.freenode.net already points to irc.joseon.kr [04:50] schestowitz maybe they can mine uranium instead of 'crypto' 'coin' [04:50] MinceR maybe they can buy some ancient russian warheads lyring around [04:50] MinceR maybe also missiles [04:51] techrights-news chat.freenode.net has become irc.joseon.kr so the joke about #freenode becoming "LeeNode" is no longer a joke. [04:51] techrights-news #freenode is run by someone who thinks #africa is a county http://techrights.org/2021/06/25/andrew-lee-l0de-interview/ [04:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Annotated Transcript of Andrew Lee (Freenode) Interview With Lode Ray Dio | Techrights [04:52] XRevan86 Can't even mock the Joseon residents yet, will have to wait for them to join. [04:52] schestowitz MinceR: maybe they can deliver with helium balloons and kites insread [04:53] MinceR lol [04:53] MinceR what could possibly go wrong? [04:53] schestowitz for the warhead or the balloon? [04:54] MinceR yes [04:54] MinceR (though i was mainly thinking of the wind blowing in a different direction than intended) [04:54] schestowitz that's a feature [04:54] schestowitz weapon defence system: an array of fans [04:55] MinceR it didn't go too well with chemical weapons either [04:55] schestowitz phew phew phew... GO AWAY [04:55] MinceR especially with the lighter stuff, like chlorine [04:56] techrights-news New #freenode is an ego trip gone awry [04:57] techrights-news That remains to be seen is, what will the collapse of LTM/PIA/Freenode mean to #shellsdotcom and what will that mean to bloggers and vloggers (influencers) who shill it? [04:58] techrights-news Without all the self-harming BS I reckon #freenode could still have over 60,000 users online at this point. But no... the branding does not fulfil the delusion of an imaginary "nation" [04:59] XRevan86 Can Joseon be called a vanity project? [04:59] schestowitz-TR it's worse [04:59] schestowitz-TR an escape plan [04:59] MinceR not a good one at that ● Aug 11 [05:00] kingoffrance "so now you see what he had in mind" "and everyone that joins will get an equal amoun tof a coin" yes i told CrystalMath it was "socialist" you're welcome lol [05:00] XRevan86 escapist plan? [05:00] kingoffrance it's his experiment i guess [05:00] CrystalMath oh hmm [05:00] CrystalMath flashback... [05:00] CrystalMath irc.joseon.kr is not linked with the rest of freenode [05:00] CrystalMath so if you connect now [05:01] CrystalMath you get a near-empty network [05:01] schestowitz I am removing the webapp [05:01] schestowitz "We used to be based in Freenode between 2008 and 2021. Following ownership changes we cannot recommend Freenode anymore. It does not allow anonymous access. If you still wish to use Freenode instead of our self-hosted network, details and an applet are below. The channels are all bridged across to our network." [05:01] CrystalMath however, this time, the services database appears to be migrated [05:01] schestowitz It does not work anyway [05:01] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I guess ye got your "freenode classic" wish. [05:01] MinceR not really [05:01] XRevan86 Careful what ye wish for. [05:01] MinceR none of the shreds are classic [05:01] schestowitz also "Ensure JavaScript is enabled to use the embedded facility above." [05:01] CrystalMath schestowitz: that's fine, rasengan is also removing the webapp [05:01] MinceR and afaik none of them work properly [05:01] schestowitz we need to warn people about freenode at this point [05:01] schestowitz CrystalMath: don't be fooled [05:01] XRevan86 MinceR: They have the classic name :) [05:02] MinceR lol [05:02] schestowitz they folded their cards [05:02] schestowitz it's a scam [05:02] MinceR they have all the names [05:02] CrystalMath a scam? [05:02] schestowitz Like KAPE and "CASINOA TEDDY"| [05:02] MinceR freenode, Joseon, irc.com [05:02] MinceR leenode [05:02] XRevan86 schestowitz: Maybe now irc-channel can stop mentioning Joseon at all? [05:03] schestowitz http://techrights.org/irc-channel/ updated [05:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Channels | Techrights [05:03] schestowitz XRevan86: it is legacy [05:03] schestowitz we have 13+ years of logs that mention "freenode" by name [05:03] XRevan86 schestowitz: Well, update the domain name then. [05:03] schestowitz thankfully those logs, static files btw, do not mention the network by address [05:03] schestowitz except this page [05:03] MinceR a bit of comedy for you >> https://freenode.net/news/on-power-to-the-people [05:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | On Power to the People - freenode [05:04] schestowitz which we can treat as dynamic [05:04] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's irc.joseon.kr [05:04] schestowitz no hard-linking [05:04] schestowitz what else do we know? [05:05] schestowitz I think we owe it to people who saw our freenode posts in May... to let them know freenode is a scam [05:05] schestowitz but we need to understand the next phase of it [05:05] schestowitz ping irc.freenode.net [05:05] schestowitz PING irc.freenode.net(2001:19f0:5:5a1c:5400:3ff:fe7b:b6d (2001:19f0:5:5a1c:5400:3ff:fe7b:b6d)) 56 data bytes [05:05] XRevan86 MinceR: He forgot "???" and "PROFIT" [05:05] MinceR :> [05:06] schestowitz XRevan86: how can you figure out the redirect or alias? [05:06] schestowitz ping irc.joseon.kr [05:06] schestowitz PING irc.joseon.kr(2001:19f0:5c01:141c:5400:3ff:fe7b:ba2 (2001:19f0:5c01:141c:5400:3ff:fe7b:ba2)) 56 data bytes [05:06] schestowitz not the same address [05:06] XRevan86 schestowitz: dig +short CNAME chat.freenode.net [05:06] schestowitz thanks [05:07] XRevan86 > Special thanks to Shane (mrinfinity) for help with the edits. [05:07] CrystalMath schestowitz: what scam? [05:07] XRevan86 And yet "we breath" [05:07] schestowitz CrystalMath: he's looking to prop up 'toilet paper' nation [05:07] schestowitz with IRC as fake 'evidence' of 'citizens' [05:07] MinceR cornholiovirus? [05:07] schestowitz for ego, lending, who knows what else... [05:07] CrystalMath what sort of lending? [05:08] schestowitz "joseon.krs server IP address could not be found." [05:08] XRevan86 I honestly have no idea how the mentioned steps get the network anywhere closer to decentralisation. [05:08] schestowitz they don't even serve over http/s [05:08] schestowitz yet [05:08] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 27.05 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 87.68 swarm size (avg): 275.46 [05:09] XRevan86 schestowitz: Yea, it's a bit weird. But priorities I guess. [05:09] XRevan86 > Officially become digital territory of the Joseon Empire [05:09] XRevan86 CrystalMath: The first empire without territory. [05:09] CrystalMath XRevan86: not the first [05:09] XRevan86 Try to find an example of that :) [05:10] XRevan86 Not some Order, but a bloody Empire. [05:10] CrystalMath also technically, empires were decentralied :P [05:10] CrystalMath *decentralized [05:10] kingoffrance ^ [05:10] CrystalMath they had local rulers [05:10] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I live in a Federation. [05:10] CrystalMath it's similar [05:10] XRevan86 I know the concept. [05:10] CrystalMath yeah [05:11] XRevan86 However, in networking federation is more like confederation, a lot more loose. [05:11] MinceR disfederation would be looser [05:11] XRevan86 Decentralised networks don't have an overseer. [05:11] kingoffrance *dont have a visible [05:12] kingoffrance evverything comes down to physical servers at some point [05:12] kingoffrance in some territory, with an overseer [05:12] XRevan86 XMPP is decentralised, Tox even more so, Joseon is not that. [05:12] XRevan86 No matter how much Blockchain they throw at it. [05:13] kingoffrance clown is an example, surely there are "overseers" in clownland :) [05:13] XRevan86 kingoffrance: Oi, that's just sophism. [05:13] kingoffrance its what territories are made of [05:13] MinceR maybe they just need more buzzwords [05:13] kingoffrance invisible boundaries [05:13] MinceR "serverless" might just do it! [05:14] XRevan86 kingoffrance: Federated networks connect by protocol, they don't have a unifying entity. [05:14] schestowitz XRevan86: I do a blog post [05:14] schestowitz any other info to add? [05:14] schestowitz will share a draft in a min [05:15] CrystalMath You cannot change your nickname (You must use your IRC.com account) [05:15] CrystalMath nick changes are indeed not possible on joseon [05:15] kingoffrance i dont deny that, merely real physical world "power relations" will reflect in virtual internet land [05:15] kingoffrance or money, or whatever, resources [05:15] kingoffrance they are not separate but joined [05:15] XRevan86 schestowitz: I shared what I had. [05:15] MinceR CrystalMath: what if you do /nickserv logout? [05:16] CrystalMath MinceR: i woudln't dare to try [05:16] CrystalMath *wouldn't [05:16] MinceR lol [05:16] CrystalMath probably you get Guest23843 [05:16] CrystalMath and that becomes a real problem [05:16] CrystalMath until you reconnect and re-SASL [05:16] XRevan86 * Guest228 [05:16] MinceR :> [05:16] MinceR XRevan228 [05:17] XRevan86 MinceR: [05:18] XRevan86 CrystalMath: That's one way to still mess with the implementation, if that does happen. [05:19] CrystalMath now we'll see who didn't register on new freenode [05:19] schestowitz XRevan86: draft http://techrights.org/2021/08/10/freenode-is-compromised/ [05:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode is Compromised | Techrights [05:19] CrystalMath schestowitz: harsh [05:19] CrystalMath i mean freenode has been shut down, it's joseon now [05:19] schestowitz-TR true [05:19] schestowitz-TR yes [05:19] schestowitz-TR hostile exploitation [05:19] schestowitz-TR and it was the end goal [05:19] schestowitz-TR the question was, WHEN [05:19] CrystalMath i have no reason to believe it's hostile [05:20] schestowitz-TR see my chat with Lee [05:20] XRevan86 schestowitz: Ye should make your own screenshot or attribute. [05:20] schestowitz-TR he had this in mind [05:20] XRevan86 Shouldn't be hard. [05:20] CrystalMath it's a new small network [05:20] schestowitz-TR the question was, how many plebs he could drag off freenode.net [05:20] schestowitz-TR he used freenode as a funnel/sieve [05:20] schestowitz-TR not caring for its actual communities [05:20] schestowitz-TR and what the users wanted [05:21] CrystalMath for a new network? [05:21] schestowitz-TR yes [05:21] schestowitz-TR to feed him little 'empire' [05:21] XRevan86 schestowitz: "It is not ours" iffy [05:21] schestowitz-TR a domain name and fake kingdom [05:22] CrystalMath i still think you're being harsh [05:22] CrystalMath i mean, you're right if you say "this is not freenode" [05:22] schestowitz " not our responsibility" [05:22] CrystalMath but it doesn't say it's freenode [05:22] schestowitz edited [05:22] schestowitz-TR CrystalMath: see dig output [05:23] schestowitz-TR they funnel people that way [05:23] XRevan86 CrystalMath: This is insane, and usually people react to insanity with strong rejection. [05:23] CrystalMath well i never do [05:23] CrystalMath i try to make sense of it [05:24] XRevan86 CrystalMath: It is a rename of freenode to Joseon. [05:24] XRevan86 It's happening. [05:24] CrystalMath yes [05:24] CrystalMath i mean [05:24] CrystalMath i connected [05:24] CrystalMath it says "Welcome to Joseon" [05:24] CrystalMath with Joseon being in ascii art form [05:24] CrystalMath the way freenode used to be written [05:24] schestowitz-TR see? [05:24] schestowitz-TR eee [05:24] MinceR the screenshots i saw also showed the MOTD refer to freenode in several places [05:24] schestowitz-TR now in third e [05:24] XRevan86 "but it doesn't say it's freenode" nonsense. [05:24] MinceR including #freenode [05:25] CrystalMath yes [05:25] schestowitz-TR also in bnc [05:25] CrystalMath there is also a #joseon [05:25] schestowitz-TR it names freeenode [05:25] schestowitz-TR they have not migrated it yet [05:25] CrystalMath i joined that [05:25] schestowitz-TR wait for the fourth e [05:25] schestowitz-TR exterminate [05:25] MinceR EXTERMINATE! [05:25] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: why after extinguish? [05:26] techrights-news #Freenode is Compromised http://techrights.org/2021/08/10/freenode-is-compromised/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/10/freenode-is-compromised/ [05:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode is Compromised | Techrights [05:26] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Trying to make sense of things is great, but it's also important to recognise when an important step is to look at things from an unhealthy perspective. [05:26] CrystalMath also btw it's no longer possible to connect to the old new freenode [05:26] schestowitz https://freenode.net/news/on-power-to-the-people [05:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | On Power to the People - freenode [05:26] schestowitz this just in [05:26] CrystalMath because services are down there [05:26] CrystalMath and SASL is required, so [05:26] CrystalMath the old servers don't support SASL [05:26] CrystalMath anymore [05:26] CrystalMath but require it [05:26] schestowitz " [05:26] schestowitz Disable Non-SASL Connections [05:27] schestowitz Disable NICK after connect [05:27] schestowitz Officially become digital territory of the Joseon Empire [05:27] schestowitz Modify nomenclature of IRC servers [05:27] schestowitz Replace Services Authentication with Fiat, Decentralized Blockchain Based Authentication [05:27] schestowitz " [05:27] schestowitz W [05:27] schestowitz T [05:27] schestowitz F [05:27] schestowitz [05:26] Officially become digital territory of the Joseon Empire [05:27] schestowitz crackpot!@ [05:27] MinceR lol [05:27] XRevan86 schestowitz: That helps decentralisation somehow. [05:27] schestowitz bye, freenode [05:27] MinceR i linked it a while ago [05:27] schestowitz yes, I thought it was old [05:27] XRevan86 Yea, MinceR did. [05:27] schestowitz but I didn't pay close enough attention [05:27] MinceR :) [05:28] schestowitz " [05:28] kingoffrance im not sure how fiat and centralized go together [05:28] schestowitz Onward. [05:28] schestowitz Your proud servant, [05:28] schestowitz HIH Andrew Lee [05:28] schestowitz of the Joseon Empire, the oldest nation in the world since 1392 [05:28] kingoffrance arent they kind of opposite? [05:28] schestowitz Special thanks to Shane (mrinfinity) for help with the edits. [05:28] schestowitz " [05:28] schestowitz WTD? [05:28] kingoffrance *decentralized [05:28] schestowitz Your SERVANT, the IMPERIAL HIGHNESS [05:28] schestowitz how does that work? [05:28] MinceR sounds very much like a manager [05:28] XRevan86 I'll go sleep now, during all this craziness, after that I'll enjoy taunting the new Joseon population by asking how they feel about their new status. [05:28] schestowitz kings are slaves? [05:28] MinceR saying words without understanding what they mean [05:29] kingoffrance well, thats saturnalia alchemy my dear schestowitz [05:29] kingoffrance but thats too long a story [05:29] schestowitz haha [05:29] schestowitz well, he's toast [05:29] schestowitz he can enjoy his <1000 users network [05:29] kingoffrance he did say he was a phoenix rising, who knows [05:29] kingoffrance maybe he does like alchemy lol [05:29] schestowitz with dunces jumping ship when they realise they're just there to suck his little pecker [05:30] schestowitz he wasted so much of so many people's time [05:30] XRevan86 kingoffrance: https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Phoenix_King [05:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-avatar.fandom.com | Phoenix King | Avatar Wiki | Fandom [05:30] CrystalMath oh and the cloaks are now joseon/user/accountname :) [05:30] XRevan86 Maybe that? (: [05:30] CrystalMath XRevan86: the cloaks were still freenode for a while but now corrected [05:30] CrystalMath new people coming in have joseon cloaks [05:30] CrystalMath also maybe it should be joseon/citizen/... [05:31] CrystalMath just saying [05:31] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Which one does the bridge have? [05:31] CrystalMath did the bridge reconnect? [05:31] XRevan86 CrystalMath: yes [05:31] schestowitz-TR irc.com left out that part [05:31] schestowitz-TR SSO as naturalisation for crackpot nation [05:31] schestowitz-TR a badge of shame [05:31] CrystalMath freenode/user/tr-bridge [05:31] CrystalMath heh [05:31] XRevan86 Okay, I'll restart it again. [05:32] schestowitz-TR bot nation :-) [05:32] XRevan86 Don't want it to seem dated :) [05:32] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [05:32] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [05:32] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [05:32] MinceR imperial/subject/tr-bridge [05:33] CrystalMath no... hmmm... [05:33] CrystalMath you got freenode/user again [05:33] CrystalMath something's up [05:33] MinceR well, it's broken, as usual [05:33] CrystalMath but i'm sure it'll be fixed by tomorrow [05:33] MinceR riiiiiight [05:33] XRevan86 O.K., good night anyway. Or rather, morning. Boy I'm screwing myself [05:34] schestowitz I've just alaerts those still in freenode.net [05:34] schestowitz URGENT: please connect to our real network: http://techrights.org/2021/08/10/freenode-is-compromised/ [05:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode is Compromised | Techrights [05:34] schestowitz they might not have much time left [05:34] schestowitz some are not registered [05:35] XRevan86 I forgot to change the postfix! [05:35] Guest91 please connect to our real network: http://techrights.org/2021/08/10/freenode-is-compromised/ [05:36] schestowitz 1. does it relay there? [05:36] schestowitz 2. how many users are on the channel there? [05:36] schestowitz * Current global users: 8630 Max: 22832 [05:36] schestowitz in freenode.net [05:36] MinceR i wonder what happened to #0g [05:37] schestowitz maybe shelved for now [05:37] MinceR seems nearly empty, but i can't see any notice of having moved either [05:37] schestowitz oliva has other projects [05:37] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [05:37] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [05:37] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [05:38] schestowitz sadly some people still have things configured to connect to FN and LC [05:38] schestowitz with entry into unofficial channels [05:38] schestowitz which could in theory because a liability by impersonation [05:43] XRevan86 schestowitz: I don't want to make a trial bridge as it will for sure break when the netsplit is over. [05:43] XRevan86 The last time that worked extremely poorly. [05:44] XRevan86 > 2. how many users are on the channel there? [05:44] XRevan86 schestowitz: A question for CrystalMath, the bridge doesn't tell me. [05:44] XRevan86 > 1. does it relay there? [05:45] XRevan86 schestowitz: That I just don't understand. Of course it relays to somewhere, right? :) [05:46] XRevan86 The messages from there will now be marked not as "fn" but as "jn". Should be extra-annoying :) [05:47] schestowitz-TR oh/ [05:48] CrystalMath yes it works XRevan86 [05:48] schestowitz how many people there? [05:48] CrystalMath 90-ish [05:48] CrystalMath on the whole network, you mean? [05:49] XRevan86 CrystalMath: What works? It being extra-annoying? [05:50] CrystalMath/jn here there's only me and tr-bridge [05:50] CrystalMath/jn also ChanServ as the channel is properly registered and the topic is correct [05:50] CrystalMath/jn well not quite correct, you see.. it says "Freenode" [05:50] CrystalMath/jn should be changed to "Joseon" [05:51] schestowitz-TR ha [05:51] schestowitz-TR one-user channel [05:51] schestowitz-TR CrystalMath: [05:51] schestowitz-TR one citizen of alt-korea [05:51] CrystalMath/jn Techrights.org IRC discussions @ Joseon [05:51] schestowitz-TR with 'king pizzagate' [05:52] CrystalMath the bridge is also there :P [05:52] XRevan86 It probably brings a significant amount of activity into Joseon. [05:52] schestowitz-TR is there a troll under bridge? [05:52] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: the server will crash soon [05:52] schestowitz-TR shells [05:52] schestowitz-TR shells game :-) [05:53] XRevan86 schestowitz: It will be shelled? [05:53] schestowitz-TR shell out for me another server [05:53] schestowitz-TR we are oveprovisioned here [05:53] schestowitz-TR we only need one-coce CPU and 100MB or RAM, bro [05:54] schestowitz-TR *of *core [05:54] XRevan86 schestowitz: Also, this move to become Joseon will force everyone to reconnect probably today, meaning that we will get accurate user numbers soon. [05:55] schestowitz-TR more trolls under 'bridge'? [05:56] XRevan86 DALnet is going to be bigger than Joseon I strongly suspect. [05:56] schestowitz-TR does dalnet have territory? [05:57] XRevan86 schestowitz: Virtually none. [05:58] XRevan86 I like how "jn" looks like a twisted version of "fn", gives the postfix some character. ● Aug 11 [06:00] CrystalMath Joseon is better shortened to js isn't it? [06:00] CrystalMath because of the korean characters [06:00] schestowitz-TR it doesn't matter [06:00] schestowitz-TR it's a joke [06:02] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Technically, yes, but "jn" makes more intuitive sense to an English eye. [06:04] techrights-news Presumption of #Patent Invalidity in #Europe http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/epo-patent-invalidity/ #epo #corruption #swpats [06:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Presumption of Patent Invalidity in Europe | Techrights [06:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 17.78 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 99.00 swarm size (avg): 275.40 [06:11] techrights-news #OSI has brought Betsy Waliszewski onboard. Betsy: "Microsoft has been a Keystone PyCon sponsor for the past 3 years and is now proud to become a Visionary Sponsor" (the OSI's GM also raised money from #mirosoft so OSI is defunct) [06:11] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154385 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [06:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [06:16] techrights-news #OSI is promoter of #ProprietarySoftware with #openwashing angle/slant [06:16] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154386 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [06:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [06:18] techrights-news Links 11/8/2021: elementary OS 6 and Zorin OS 16 Pro Plans http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/elementary-os-6/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/11/elementary-os-6/ [06:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 11/8/2021: elementary OS 6 and Zorin OS 16 Pro Plans | Techrights [06:19] techrights-news #OSI objective in 2021: protect #ProprietarySoftware #monopolies (justified by #openwashing with proprietary recommendations) while attacking #softwareFreedom advocates like #fsf http://techrights.org/category/osi/ [06:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | OSI | Techrights [06:21] techrights-news #OSI 2019-2020: OSI co-founder left, other OSI co-founder banned by corporate coup plotters, GM of OSI resigns (he's sole member of staff!), now they cannot even run an election. OSI is zombie/dead (zombie as in controlled remotely by hostile elements like #microsft !) http://techrights.org/category/osi/ [06:28] schestowitz * isak has quit (*.net *.split) [06:28] schestowitz * samiamsam has quit (*.net *.split) [06:28] schestowitz minutes ago [06:28] schestowitz I assume some won't be able to come back online [06:29] schestowitz some people will lose online friends forever [06:29] schestowitz because of the crank with delusions of grandeur [06:30] schestowitz * Current global users: 7694 Max: 22832 [06:30] schestowitz freenode [06:30] schestowitz CrystalMath: can you run the command /lusers (in leenode)? [06:30] schestowitz let's see what the total sum is [06:30] CrystalMath schestowitz: i was disconnected from the old one [06:30] CrystalMath 359 on joseon [06:30] schestowitz oh gosh [06:31] CrystalMath servers are being delinked from the old one [06:31] CrystalMath and it's not possible to return to it [06:31] schestowitz 359+ 7694, just over 8000 left [06:31] CrystalMath because SASL is disabled [06:31] CrystalMath (because no services) [06:31] CrystalMath but SASL is also required [06:31] schestowitz so he only managed to convince like a few hundreds people to enter his kingdom [06:31] schestowitz by tricking them with domains aliased [06:32] techrights-news #freenode is now below 8000 users [06:33] techrights-news Time for everybody to move to irc.techrights.org, the only official IRC network for #Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/08/10/freenode-is-compromised/ [06:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode is Compromised | Techrights [06:34] techrights-news Its becoming harder to successfully enforce European #Patents in courts because todays #EPO is granting patents that arent valid, or monopolies that should never have been issued in the first place http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/epo-patent-invalidity/ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption| Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/11/epo-patent-invalidity/ [06:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Presumption of Patent Invalidity in Europe | Techrights [06:34] CrystalMath schestowitz: well i mean, joseon is climbing [06:34] CrystalMath so far [06:34] CrystalMath it probably will be stable [06:35] techrights-news After killing off a network with almost 100,000 online users Andrew Lee has only managed to trick 390 or so people (some of them are bots, not people) into his vanity network http://techrights.org/2021/08/10/freenode-is-compromised/ [06:40] CrystalMath hey, i connected willingly [06:40] CrystalMath i wasn't tricked [06:56] CrystalMath XRevan86: servers are named after historic rulers ● Aug 11 [07:01] CrystalMath schestowitz: joseon at 500 [07:02] schestowitz-TR still low [07:02] schestowitz-TR some of them are asleep [07:02] schestowitz-TR fell off the freenode network [07:02] schestowitz-TR forcibly [07:02] schestowitz-TR then connection reattempted [07:02] schestowitz-TR and they hop into something they never wanted to even jopin [07:03] schestowitz-TR CrystalMath: is there a server called kim? [07:03] schestowitz-TR how about stalin [07:03] schestowitz-TR very strong leader [07:03] schestowitz-TR even a little too strong :-D [07:06] schestowitz I think we have completed our transition to just one IRC server (consolidation to due to Freenode being compromised and taken over by a megalomaniac [07:06] schestowitz * Current global users: 6153 Max: 22832 [07:06] schestowitz yay [07:06] schestowitz CrystalMath: joseon up 150 users [07:06] schestowitz freenode down by 1500 [07:06] schestowitz so make that one in 10 [07:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.01 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 87.98 swarm size (avg): 275.33 [07:07] schestowitz by the time they drain out 9k in freenode maybe joseon will be left with 900 [07:08] techrights-news It looks like within a day #freenosde will be left with BARELY 1,000 online users, judging by the very low conversion rates we see at both sides (old and new domain/network) at the moment. That's losing 99% of users in ONLY 3 MONTHS!!! [07:10] techrights-news With only 6,000 users still left in #freenode merely 500 have been moved to the new network. By the time they complete the migration they'd be lucky to keep over 1,000 online. #irc #internet #joseon #fail [07:10] schestowitz-TR I've just done a video that covers some of the IRC drama [07:10] schestowitz-TR but is mostly about EPO [07:11] techrights-news Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154387 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [07:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [07:11] schestowitz-TR I bet Lee is very high on drugs at the moment [07:11] schestowitz-TR to calm him down as freenode falls to 5,000 users and his little virtual island amasses just 500 users [07:12] schestowitz * saint_dogbert has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [07:12] schestowitz * isak has quit (*.net *.split) [07:12] schestowitz * samiamsam has quit (*.net *.split) [07:12] schestowitz * search_social has quit (*.net *.split) [07:12] schestowitz * lightbringer has quit (*.net *.split) [07:12] schestowitz * asusbox has quit (*.net *.split) [07:12] schestowitz they drop like flies [07:13] psydruid not everyone can get status in the empire of joseon [07:19] schestowitz lies!! [07:20] schestowitz https://freenode.net/news/on-power-to-the-people [07:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | On Power to the People - freenode [07:20] *job (~job@y2ppfmhyw72zs.irc) has joined #techrights [07:20] schestowitz "We welcome everyone in the entire world who wishes for liberty and financial equality to come join us" [07:20] schestowitz private club [07:20] schestowitz for worships of the emperor [07:20] schestowitz and for the worshipers [07:20] schestowitz who got tricked by a domain alias/link [07:20] schestowitz they have their client connect to chat.freenode.net [07:20] schestowitz like activelow said, [07:20] schestowitz he said phishing [07:21] schestowitz I call it domain hijacking [07:21] schestowitz he uses a domain hundreds of thousands connect to [07:21] schestowitz to basically funnel traffic to his vanity name [07:21] schestowitz what a SCAM [07:25] techrights-news Even the Uganda Peoples Congress (UPC) has more credibility than the illegal and unconstitutional #UnifiedPatentCourt https://www.monitor.co.ug/uganda/news/national/upc-in-fresh-court-battle-over-leadership-3329908 #upc #teamupc #unitarypatent [07:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.monitor.co.ug | UPC in fresh court battle over leadership - Daily Monitor [07:27] techrights-news #belarus under #lukashenko is an East European #NorthKorea (you have to keep people from escaping) https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/lithuania-begins-building-barrier-on-border-with-belarus-to-block-migrants/articleshow/84264460.cms [07:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timesofindia.indiatimes.com | Lithuania begins building barrier on border with Belarus to block migrants - Times of India [07:29] techrights-news #corporateMedia owned by people with financial investment in business estate: it's over, we're winning against COVID. Reality (even worse than last summer): https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/europe/dutch-to-reimpose-some-covid-19-curbs-as-cases-rise/articleshow/84265774.cms [07:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-timesofindia.indiatimes.com | Dutch Lockdown News: Dutch to reimpose some Covid-19 curbs as cases rise | World News - Times of India [07:30] schestowitz-TR to calm him down as freenode falls to 5,000 users and his little virtual island amasses just 500 users [07:40] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:41] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: 600 now [07:42] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [07:42] schestowitz-TR only 5000 left in freenode.net [07:42] schestowitz-TR assumung for each 1000 he can get 100, make that well under 2000 users [07:42] schestowitz-TR within a day or less [07:42] schestowitz EPO and we also moaned about the final blow to Freenode, which will probably have no more than 2,000 users left within a day or two (3 months ago it had almost 100,000 simultaneous/online users)." [07:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights [07:50] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:51] techrights-news NEWS #Hackaday #BSD #FreeBSD Experiment Rethinks The OS Install https://hackaday.com/2021/08/10/freebsd-experiment-rethinks-the-os-install/ [07:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FreeBSD Experiment Rethinks The OS Install | Hackaday [07:51] techrights-news NEWS #ComputerWorld #Mozilla As Mozilla talks up #Firefox 's future, the present is killing it https://www.computerworld.com/article/3628338/as-mozilla-talks-up-firefoxs-future-the-present-is-killing-it.html [07:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-As Mozilla talks up Firefox's future, the present is killing it | Computerworld [07:52] techrights-news NEWS #DanLangille #Hardware I bought a new #nvme drive or did I? https://dan.langille.org/2021/08/09/i-bought-a-new-nvme-drive-or-did-i/ [07:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dan.langille.org | I bought a new nvme drive or did I? Dan Langille's Other Diary [07:53] techrights-news #freenode is rapidly being reduced to rubble by a crypto charlatan with insecurity complex [07:56] techrights-news NEWS #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware #Amazon awarded secret $10B #NSA #clowncomputing contract: report https://thehill.com/policy/technology/567206-amazon-awarded-secret-10b-nsa-cloud-computing-contract-report no bailout for #microsoft [07:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon awarded secret $10B NSA cloud computing contract: report | TheHill [07:56] techrights-news NEWS #Nextgov #ProprietarySoftware #NSA Awards Secret $10 Billion Contract to #Amazon https://www.nextgov.com/it-modernization/2021/08/nsa-awards-secret-10-billion-contract-amazon/184390/ #microsoft falls further behind and defrauds shareholders [07:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NSA Awards Secret $10 Billion Contract to Amazon - Nextgov [07:56] techrights-news NEWS #TheVerge #ProprietarySoftware Now #Microsoft is protesting after Amazon won a $10 billion #NSA cloud contract https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/10/22618764/nsa-10-billion-microsoft-aws-cloud-services-protest #Microsoft = #fraud and #azure layoffs [07:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Amazon beat out Microsoft for a $10 billion NSA cloud contract - The Verge [07:57] techrights-news NEWS #TheVerge #ProprietarySoftware Apples controversial new child [sic] protection [sic] features, explained https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/10/22613225/apple-csam-scanning-messages-child-safety-features-privacy-controversy-explained nany state #apple [07:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Apples controversial new child protection features, explained - The Verge [07:59] schestowitz * Current global users: 3971 Max: 22832 ● Aug 11 [08:00] techrights-news Only 3900 users left in #freenode now. Wow. It was 90,000+ just a few months ago. #irc [08:01] techrights-news The 'new' #freenode will have in it just as many users as some old CHANNELS (not networks) in Freenode used to have! [08:05] techrights-news NEWS #NYOB #Surveillance #Privacy noyb files 422 formal #GDPR complaints on nerve-wrecking Cookie Banners https://noyb.eu/en/noyb-files-422-formal-gdpr-complaints-nerve-wrecking-cookie-banners [08:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-noyb.eu | noyb files 422 formal GDPR complaints on nerve-wrecking Cookie Banners [08:05] techrights-news NEWS #Axios #Surveillance #Privacy #Facebook 's #accountability bind https://www.axios.com/facebooks-accountability-bind-nyu-researcher-ban-1e352a0f-b1f8-4d79-b460-9db2515171c9.html [08:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook's accountability bind - Axios [08:06] techrights-news NEWS #USENIX #Confidentiality Why TLS is better without STARTTLS: A Security Analysis of #STARTTLS in the Email Context https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity21/presentation/poddebniak [08:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usenix.org | Why TLS is better without STARTTLS: A Security Analysis of STARTTLS in the Email Context | USENIX [08:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.48 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 95.05 swarm size (avg): 275.27 [08:07] techrights-news NEWS #Salon #Politics #Facebook stonewalls #Biden on stopping vaccine disinformation because right-wing lies are enriching https://www.salon.com/2021/08/10/facebook-stonewalls-biden-on-stopping-vaccine-disinformation--because-right-wing-lies-are-enriching/ [08:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.salon.com/2021/08/10/facebook-stonewalls-biden-on-stopping-vaccine-disinformation-&/ ) [08:08] techrights-news NEWS #TheReboot #Disinformation #Misinformation How Misinformation Spreads Online https://thereboot.com/super-spreader-how-misinformation-takes-root/ [08:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thereboot.com | How Misinformation Spreads Online - The Reboot [08:08] techrights-news NEWS #RTL #Facebook shuts down anti-vaccine influencer campaign https://today.rtl.lu/news/business-and-tech/a/1768778.html [08:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - False claims: Facebook shuts down anti-vaccine influencer campaign [08:11] techrights-news NEWS #TheJakartaPostID #Censorship #Instagram removes poster for new #Almodovar film https://www.thejakartapost.com/life/2021/08/10/instagram-removes-poster-for-new-almodovar-film.html [08:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thejakartapost.com | Instagram removes poster for new Almodovar film - Entertainment - The Jakarta Post [08:11] techrights-news NEWS #ArtDaily #Censorship #Instagram removes poster for new #Almodovar film https://artdaily.com/news/138303/Instagram-removes-poster-for-new-Almodovar-film [08:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://artdaily.com/news/138303/Instagram-removes-poster-for-new-Almodovar-film ) [08:14] techrights-news Only 2446 users left in #freenode now. Oh, the bloodbath. #irc [08:14] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut #Twitter Suspends #MarjorieTaylorGreene for 1 Week Over False Vaccine Claims https://truthout.org/articles/twitter-suspends-marjorie-taylor-greene-for-1-week-over-false-vaccine-claims/ while Twitter takes money from an equally bad person: http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ [08:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Twitter Suspends Marjorie Taylor Greene for 1 Week Over False Vaccine Claims [08:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights [08:15] schestowitz-TR I wonder how many people are on joseon now [08:15] schestowitz-TR freenode is almost empty already [08:15] schestowitz-TR crystal went offline [08:15] schestowitz-TR maybe to avoid the embarassment [08:18] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@4xy7jhy95z8gs.irc) has joined #techrights [08:19] schestowitz [08:18] [Info] Server found, connecting... [08:19] schestowitz [08:18] [Notice] -*.joseon.kr- *** Looking up your ident... [08:19] schestowitz [08:18] [Notice] -*.joseon.kr- *** Looking up your hostname... [08:19] schestowitz [08:18] [Notice] -*.joseon.kr- *** You must use TLS/SSL and authenticate via SASL to connect to freenode please visit https://irc.com/login/sso in order to create an account. SASL Configuration: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/sasl - Webchat: https://webchat.freenode.net/ [08:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IRC.com Login [08:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | Connecting with SASL - freenode [08:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-webchat.freenode.net | Kiwi IRC [08:19] schestowitz [08:18] [Notice] -*.joseon.kr- *** Could not resolve your hostname: Domain not found; using your IP address (2a00:23c4:c383:c901:f203:8cff:fe93:1f55) instead. [08:19] schestowitz [08:19] [Error] Connection to server chat.freenode.net (port 6667) [08:19] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [08:20] techrights-news Disable #freenode in your IRC client. Because they already hijack the domain to link to another domain. Basically tricking people. [08:23] techrights-news #freenode falls below 2,000 users shortly. Make sure you remove it from the #irc client. It's not FREENODE anymore. The domain is being routed to a crypto charlatan's site. [08:25] schestowitz XRevan86: are the channels registered in the new network? [08:25] schestowitz or, iow, they they transport the users+channels DB over? [08:25] schestowitz or did they flush it down the toilet yet again? [08:25] schestowitz (I know you are asleep, but this question isn't urgent) [08:26] schestowitz they have disconnected one client of mine, and it's being routed to another domain without consent [08:26] schestowitz IRC clients ought to warn about such behaviour [08:26] schestowitz as it can be suggestive of forgery [08:26] schestowitz wherein you might even send a password to the wrong network/actor [08:28] techrights-news NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux # Deter package thieves from your porch with Raspberry Pi https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/deter-package-thieves-from-your-porch-with-raspberry-pi/ [08:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Deter package thieves from your porch with Raspberry Pi - Raspberry Pi [08:29] techrights-news NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux TOFU for Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/tofu-for-raspberry-pi-compute-module-4/ [08:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | TOFU for Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 - Raspberry Pi [08:30] techrights-news 'new' #freenode = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche [08:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Juche - Wikipedia [08:33] schestowitz all my clients have been disconnected [08:33] schestowitz no more freenode [08:33] schestowitz without as much as a warning [08:33] schestowitz a [08:33] schestowitz a notice [08:33] schestowitz or a timeline [08:33] schestowitz 2am [08:33] schestowitz some crazy post in freenode.net, a rave [08:34] schestowitz and you wake up to a disconnected client [08:34] schestowitz at least we have a bridge there [08:34] schestowitz but judging by the lack of input from it, I reckon almost nobody is there [08:34] schestowitz just bridge and crystalmath [08:36] techrights-news #freenode has pretty much been decommissioned by now. And replaced or hijacked. RIP, Freenode. Date of death: 11/8/2021. [08:41] techrights-news NEWS #Tor New Release: #TorBrowser 10.5.4 (Windows, macOS, Linux) https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1054 [08:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1054 ) [08:41] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #Finance Since 1978, CEO Pay Has Risen 1,322%. Typical Worker Pay? Just 18% https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/08/10/1978-ceo-pay-has-risen-1322-typical-worker-pay-just-18 [08:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Since 1978, CEO Pay Has Risen 1,322%. Typical Worker Pay? Just 18% | Common Dreams News [08:42] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Rightscorp Site Triggers Security Warnings and Links to Cannabis Site https://torrentfreak.com/rightscorp-site-triggers-security-warnings-and-links-to-cannabis-site-210810/ [08:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rightscorp Site Triggers Security Warnings and Links to Cannabis Site * TorrentFreak [08:42] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #RIAA Court Dismisses Yout.com #DMCA Circumvention Lawsuit Against RIAA, For Now https://torrentfreak.com/court-dismisses-yout-com-dmca-circumvention-lawsuit-against-riaa-210810/ [08:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Court Dismisses Yout.com DMCA Circumvention Lawsuit Against RIAA, For Now * TorrentFreak [08:43] techrights-news NEWS #EFF O (no!) Canada: Fast-moving proposal creates filtering, blocking and reporting rulesand speech police to enforce them https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/08/o-no-canada-fast-moving-proposal-creates-filtering-blocking-and-reporting-rules-1 [08:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | O (no!) Canada: Fast-moving proposal creates filtering, blocking and reporting rulesand speech police to enforce them | Electronic Frontier Foundation [08:46] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.actionsack.com/fcassia/status/1425359084820340740#m [08:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.actionsack.com | Fernando Cassia (@fcassia): "What's wrong with efnet? I always used http://IRC.prison.net Never understood what the fuss was about w freenet http://www.efnet.org/?module=servers" | nitter [08:52] techrights-news #Freenode is Now Dead. But is the #EPO Too Dead Man Walking? When Rogues Are Left in Charge http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/rogues-in-charge/ #patents #irc #corruption [08:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode is Now Dead. But is the EPO Too Dead Man Walking? When Rogues Are Left in Charge | Techrights [08:54] *CParadoxum_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 11 [09:00] techrights-news Now we know that irc dot com and that app are just a dick-sucking exercise of Lee, they're not access points for #irc [09:04] techrights-news [Meme] Restoring Peace by Spending 6 Million Euros to Fight Staff in Court (Approved by the EPOs Administrative Council) http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/epo-suicide-plan/ #epo #europe #corruption #patents #iloat [09:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Restoring Peace by Spending 6 Million Euros to Fight Staff in Court (Approved by the EPOs Administrative Council) | Techrights [09:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 16.65 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 66.33 swarm size (avg): 275.19 [09:11] *CParadoxum_ (~quassel@m4gsqtdgyy73q.irc) has joined #techrights ● Aug 11 [10:02] techrights-news NEWS #KrebsOnSecurity #Microsoft Patch Tuesday, August 2021 Edition https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/08/microsoft-patch-tuesday-august-2021-edition/ #security is NOT the goal: techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA [10:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | Microsoft Patch Tuesday, August 2021 Edition Krebs on Security [10:25] Noisytoot * Topic for #freenode is: Welcome to freenode, the digital territory of the Joseon Empire, the oldest nation in the world since 1392. | For help, type /join #help or go to the #help channel | https://freenode.net/news/on-power-to-the-people [10:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | On Power to the People - freenode [10:25] Noisytoot * Topic for #freenode set by root (Wed Aug 11 04:58:34 2021) [10:26] Noisytoot new freenode (joseon) motd: https://x0.at/nlWI.txt [10:28] schestowitz-TR Noisytoot: crackpot [10:28] Noisytoot * Topic for #joseon is: [-=Joseon Empire=-] Sovereign territory of the Joseon Empire, since 1392. [10:28] Noisytoot * Topic for #joseon set by root!~root@freenode/user/root (Wed Aug 11 03:05:22 2021) [10:28] Noisytoot freenode has existed since 1392? [10:29] Noisytoot "Replace Services Authentication with Fiat, Decentralized Blockchain Based Authentication" [10:30] Noisytoot * Current global users: 1097 Max: 1098 [10:30] schestowitz-TR Noisytoot: like I said, crackpot [10:30] schestowitz-TR "Joseon Empire" [10:30] schestowitz-TR something that does not exist [10:30] schestowitz-TR but is "EMPIRE" [10:30] schestowitz-TR some very strong drugs [10:45] techrights-news #OpenSourceInitiative is a Corporate Front Group Looking for Money From Opponents of Software Freedom http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/osi-monopolies/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/11/osi-monopolies/ [10:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Open Source Initiative is a Corporate Front Group Looking for Money From Opponents of Software Freedom | Techrights ● Aug 11 [11:06] techrights-news Prof. #Moglen at #OSCON , Speaking to OReilly: Open Source is a Waste of Time (Distracts From Software Freedom) http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/prof-moglen-at-oscon-speaking-to-oreilly-open-source-is-a-waste-of-time-distracts-from-software-freedom/ #Techrights #GNU #FreeSW [11:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Prof. Moglen at OSCON, Speaking to OReilly: Open Source is a Waste of Time (Distracts From Software Freedom) | Techrights [11:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 16.10 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 55.76 swarm size (avg): 275.11 [11:08] *tr_guest|56047 (~519aac55@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [11:11] *tr_guest|56047 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:19] *cow_2001 (~un@user/cow-2001/x-5712099) has joined #techrights [11:36] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@2uafxmbja26pw.irc) has joined #techrights [11:36] DaemonFC schestowitz, T-Mobile blocks wireguard now, and openvpn over udp. [11:36] DaemonFC Seems to allow openvpn over tcp though. [11:43] Noisytoot Do they block IPSec? [11:43] DaemonFC Not sure. [11:48] *cow_2001 has quit (Quit: cow_2001) ● Aug 11 [12:15] *leah has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.8) [12:38] superkuh Took you long enough to realize it. It was grossly apparent back in May. [12:39] superkuh I guess it's hard to see things you don't want to see. [12:40] superkuh And by restricting yourself to your own IRC server you're just going to die the slow death of any social system without network effect. [12:40] techrights-news #billgates acting like there's possibly an indictment coming and he uses media to shape the narrative for legal reasons https://jacobinmag.com/2021/08/bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein-mistake-cnn-interview/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique [12:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jacobinmag.com | Its No Mistake That Bill Gates Was Palling Around With Jeffrey Epstein [12:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights [12:40] techrights-news #michaelwolff #trump https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-michael-wolff-book-1206443/ [12:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rollingstone.com | How Rudy Giuliani Stoked Trump's 2020 Election Insanity - Rolling Stone [12:41] superkuh Just come back to the real freenode, schestowitz, it's here on libera. [12:41] superkuh Now that you no longer believe in Lee's cult of personality you can abandon the false claims against Libera you put up to save face. [12:43] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt Oversight Unable To Discover Which #FBI Agents Leaked #Clinton Investigation Info Because Goddamn Everyone Was Leaking Stuff https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210806/15413047318/oversight-unable-to-discover-which-fbi-agents-leaked-clinton-investigation-info-because-goddamn-everyone-was-leaking-stuff.shtml [12:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oversight Unable To Discover Which FBI Agents Leaked Clinton Investigation Info Because Goddamn Everyone Was Leaking Stuff | Techdirt [12:43] superkuh Or... you can stick to them, and idle in obscurity. [12:44] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:49] techrights-news "Protect the open web at all costs." https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/106726791018124794 [12:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.ar.al | Aral Balkan: "(Dear policymakers, are you listening?)" - Arals Mastodon [12:52] techrights-news "Yes, "we should do better" is a reference to Zuck's reaction when he was asked in US Congress what FB was going to do in order to NOT facilitate another *genocide*." https://x0f.org/@FreePietje/106728520135623478 [12:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-x0f.org | Free Pietje: "Yes, "we should do better" is a reference to Zuck" - unidentified instance [12:53] techrights-news "I feel sorry for people who think that signing a petition/letter is going to make any difference. Has it ever? It's like people who tweet #DeleteFacebook but not actually delete their FB account." https://x0f.org/@FreePietje/106728495350260247 [12:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-x0f.org | Free Pietje: "I feel sorry for people who think that signing a " - unidentified instance [12:57] techrights-news Elementary OS 6 Odin Released! Heres Whats New http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154362#comment-30510 [12:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | elementary OS 6 "Odin" Officially Released, This Is What's New | Tux Machines [12:58] techrights-news Essential System Tools: dust more intuitive version of du http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154388 [12:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Essential System Tools: dust more intuitive version of du | Tux Machines [12:58] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154389 #Linux #TuxMachines [12:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines ● Aug 11 [13:05] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Finance The End Of Ownership: How Big Companies Are Trying To Turn Everyone Into Renters https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210808/17000347325/end-ownership-how-big-companies-are-trying-to-turn-everyone-into-renters.shtml [13:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The End Of Ownership: How Big Companies Are Trying To Turn Everyone Into Renters | Techdirt [13:06] techrights-news NEWS #TheNation #sport #censorship Despite the Ban, Protest Emerges at the #Olympics https://www.thenation.com/article/society/raven-saunders-olympics-protest/ [13:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Despite the Ban, Protest Emerges at the Olympics | The Nation [13:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.88 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 84.53 swarm size (avg): 275.07 [13:08] Guest91 one negative does not make any alternative a positive [13:09] Guest91 if you support techrights, you will want the IRC networks not to be controlled by a third party [13:10] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@7zhwdwu3fntke.irc) has joined #techrights [13:10] Guest91 #techrights at irc.techrights.org (the IRC client needs to be configured to connect to it) [13:11] superkuh I'm a big fan of self hosting. I do it for all my stuff that isn't explicitly dependent on the network effect... like real time chat. [13:11] superkuh I'm currently unaware of anything done by libera staff that is bad. [13:11] Guest91 so come and join us [13:11] Guest91 fragmenting our comms would not help [13:12] superkuh So all that time on actual freenode was a mistake? [13:12] superkuh And you should've ignored the network effect and been self hosting only all that time? [13:12] Guest91 we moved ages ago [13:12] superkuh I'm talking pre-Lee. [13:12] Guest91 we just didn't move where you waneted [13:12] DaemonFC https://www.tweaktown.com/news/81066/gigabyte-servers-hacked-112gb-of-secret-data-from-amd-intel-leaked/index.html [13:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GIGABYTE servers hacked: 112GB of secret data from AMD, Intel leaked | TweakTown [13:13] Guest91 we actually planned to go self-hosted last year [13:13] superkuh To me it sure seemed like you only moved because Freenode got taken over and you went for a ride with Lee then realized you were wrong and now don't want to admit it. [13:13] Guest91 no, we had been on freenode since 2008 [13:13] superkuh Exactly. [13:14] superkuh To be clear, when I speak about post-lee freenode I'll refer to it as leenode. Any time I use freenode I'm referring to pre-lee. [13:14] Guest91 our channels are very active [13:14] Guest91 more than before [13:14] Guest91 come and join us [13:15] Guest91 (I do appreciate that you did try to help us, in another way) [13:15] superkuh I've tried, but when I went before it was just people talking shit about libera and how freenode was great. [13:15] superkuh I guess that's over now. [13:15] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #wikileaks On Eve of Hearing, Amnesty Again Demands US End Effort to Extradite #Assange https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/08/10/eve-hearing-amnesty-again-demands-us-end-effort-extradite-assange [13:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | On Eve of Hearing, Amnesty Again Demands US End Effort to Extradite Assange | Common Dreams News [13:16] *superkuh (~superkuh@vuzt3y2s85me8.irc) has joined #techrights [13:16] techrights-news NEWS #meduza #ru #russia YouTuber Yuri #Khovansky added to Russias terrorism blacklist https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/08/10/youtuber-yuri-khovansky-added-to-russia-s-terrorism-blacklist [13:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [13:16] schestowitz-TR 0/ [13:16] schestowitz-TR superkuh: many long times here [13:16] superkuh \o [13:16] schestowitz-TR network effect is for lurkers a lot of the time [13:16] superkuh Eh... I don't think so. [13:16] schestowitz-TR *timers [13:17] schestowitz-TR it boilds down to how you get found [13:17] schestowitz-TR though network [13:17] schestowitz-TR through site [13:17] schestowitz-TR and more importantly [13:17] schestowitz-TR the nature of the arrival [13:17] schestowitz-TR last year we had a bunch of unwanted qanon l00ns landing in [13:18] schestowitz-TR and they did not have much of value to contribute [13:18] schestowitz-TR so to keep s/n ratio high we've split into more pertinent channels [13:18] schestowitz-TR there's now #techpol for politics [13:18] schestowitz-TR we also have some ircv3 features [13:18] schestowitz-TR try: [13:18] superkuh Sounds good. [13:18] schestowitz-TR /history #techrights 1h [13:21] techrights-news NEWS #FAIR #PressFreedom Jailing of a British Blogger Should Worry Journalists on Both Sides of the Atlantic https://fair.org/uncategorized/jailing-of-a-british-blogger-should-worry-journalists-on-both-sides-of-the-atlantic/ [13:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fair.org | Jailing of a British Blogger Should Worry Journalists on Both Sides of the Atlantic [13:22] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt It Happened Again: Antipiracy [sic] Outfit Asks #Google To Delist 127.0.0.1 On Behalf Of #Ukrainie TV Station https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210810/10015447334/it-happened-again-antipiracy-outfit-asks-google-to-delist-127001-behalf-ukrainian-tv-station.shtml [13:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-It Happened Again: Antipiracy Outfit Asks Google To Delist 127.0.0.1 On Behalf Of Ukrainian TV Station | Techdirt [13:24] techrights-news "One of the great warrant exceptions is the "inventory search." Stop a car in a high-traffic or "high crime" area, and officers will feel compelled to tow it away." https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210731/22282447279/tenth-circuit-says-pretextual-inventory-searches-need-to-be-whole-lot-less-pretextual.shtml [13:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tenth Circuit Says Pretextual Inventory Searches Need To Be A Whole Lot Less Pretextual | Techdirt [13:26] techrights-news Just remove the #patents instead https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/08/10/groups-congress-include-34-billion-global-vaccine-production-35-trillion-budget-plan #patent #monopolies #artificialscarcity #monopoly [13:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Groups to Congress: Include $34 Billion for Global Vaccine Production in $3.5 Trillion Budget Plan | Common Dreams News [13:28] techrights-news #IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/irc-log-100821/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/11/irc-log-100821/ [13:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 | Techrights [13:29] techrights-news Orange Mans plan for the EPO is a suicide plan; he has not done anything at all about Benot Battistellis abuses (instead he covers them up) http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/epo-suicide-plan/ #Techrights #EPO #Europe #Corruption #ILOAT | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/11/epo-suicide-plan/ [13:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Restoring Peace by Spending 6 Million Euros to Fight Staff in Court (Approved by the EPOs Administrative Council) | Techrights [13:31] techrights-news A video regarding part 5 of the series about the# EPO s Administrative Council and our transition to just one #IRC server (consolidation due to #Freenode being compromised and taken over by a destructive megalomaniac) http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/rogues-in-charge/ [13:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode is Now Dead. But is the EPO Too Dead Man Walking? When Rogues Are Left in Charge | Techrights [13:32] techrights-news The corporate coup against #softwarefreedom has enlisted another person to deepen the coup with corporate fund-raising (more strings, becoming indebted to #surveillance firms and #monopolie s, hiding behind the "open" banner) http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/osi-monopolies/ [13:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Open Source Initiative is a Corporate Front Group Looking for Money From Opponents of Software Freedom | Techrights [13:33] techrights-news Neither. #ProprietarySoftare isn't good for children. It is not good for grownups, either. #microsoft #monopoly https://www.maketecheasier.com/minecraft-vs-roblox/ [13:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Minecraft vs. Roblox: Which Is Best for You or Your Child? - Make Tech Easier [13:33] techrights-news #moglen versus #web20 "hooey" http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/prof-moglen-at-oscon-speaking-to-oreilly-open-source-is-a-waste-of-time-distracts-from-software-freedom/ #Techrights #GNU #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/11/prof-moglen-at-oscon-speaking-to-oreilly-open-source-is-a-waste-of-time-distracts-from-software-freedom/ [13:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Prof. Moglen at OSCON, Speaking to OReilly: Open Source is a Waste of Time (Distracts From Software Freedom) | Techrights [13:37] techrights-news Valve breaks the curse! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Bs3UlT8WjcA #video #invidious #multimedia #gnu #linux [13:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Valve breaks the curse! - Invidious [13:37] techrights-news Which GNU/Linux Distro For Gaming? Q2 2021 Survey Results - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/which-linux-distro-for-gaming-q2-2021-survey-results/ #boilingsteam #gnu #linux [13:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Which Linux Distro For Gaming? Q2 2021 Survey Results - Boiling Steam [13:38] techrights-news #Polychromatic 0.7 Released With Improved UI For Configuring Gaming Keyboards, Mice - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Polychromatic-0.7 #deletegithub #ProprietarySoftware #microsoft http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [13:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Polychromatic 0.7 Released With Improved UI For Configuring Gaming Keyboards, Mice - Phoronix [13:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [13:39] techrights-news ##HowTo install Linux for gaming, creativity and professional applications http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154390 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to install Linux for gaming, creativity and professional applications | Tux Machines [13:40] techrights-news Valves upcoming #SteamDeck will be based on Arch Linuxnot Debian | Ars Technica https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/08/valves-upcoming-steam-deck-will-be-based-on-arch-linux-not-debian/ #arseTechnicallyPedophile [13:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Valves upcoming Steam Deck will be based on Arch Linuxnot Debian | Ars Technica [13:42] techrights-news Even if this runs #gnu #linux at the back end we should reject #clownComputing for #gaming as it attacks our ownership or control over #games https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/stadia-tries-to-appeal-to-a-younger-audience-with-new-family-friendly-games [13:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stadia tries to appeal to a younger audience with new family-friendly games | GamingOnLinux [13:44] techrights-news [PATCH 0/4] futex2: Add wait on multiple futexes syscall https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210805190405.59110-1-andrealmeid@collabora.com/ good news for gamers. #collabora #linux [13:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH 0/4] futex2: Add wait on multiple futexes syscall - Andr Almeida [13:55] techrights-news #DXVK Native gets an official release to help Linux ports with #Vulkan | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/dxvk-native-gets-an-official-release-to-help-linux-ports-with-vulkan #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/11/#latest [13:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DXVK Native gets an official release to help Linux ports with Vulkan | GamingOnLinux [13:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [13:56] techrights-news Historical adventure #Svoboda 1945: Liberation to release for GNU/Linux soon | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/historical-adventure-svoboda-1945-liberation-to-release-for-linux-soon #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games [13:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Historical adventure Svoboda 1945: Liberation to release for Linux soon | GamingOnLinux ● Aug 11 [14:02] techrights-news #Games: Valve Breaking a Curse, Polychromatic, Stadia, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154391 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Valve Breaking a Curse, Polychromatic, Stadia, and More | Tux Machines [14:03] techrights-news "First up in the news, Linux Mint working on the website, more on the SteamDeck, Ubuntu debuts its new installer, and some release dates" https://mintcast.org/2021/08/11/367-whats-old-is-new-again/ [14:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mintcast.org | 367 Whats Old Is New Again mintCast [14:07] cbrtrnx[m] I think selfhosting is not bad, but one disadvantage in this case is that libera is bridged to matrix (which could be done for selfhosted irc too) [14:18] techrights-news #CodeWeavers #CrossOver 21 for Linux Mac and #ChromeOS https://www.wine-reviews.net/2021/08/codeweavers-crossover-21-for-linux-mac.html [14:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wine-reviews.net | Wine Reviews : CodeWeavers CrossOver 21 for Linux Mac and Chrome OS [14:19] techrights-news #OBS Studio gets another developer, launches a Project Bounty Program http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154392 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:20] brabo Guest91: hilarious how you flipped sides [14:20] brabo i thought leenode was so just and the old staff were so wrong eh? [14:21] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:21] brabo http://techrights.org/2021/05/19/freenode-and-cancel-culture/http://techrights.org/2021/05/19/freenode-and-cancel-culture/ [14:21] brabo oops [14:21] brabo http://techrights.org/2021/05/19/freenode-and-cancel-culture/ "The Panic Over Freenode Isnt Justified and Its Reaction Mostly Disproportionate [14:22] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:22] brabo you do come across like someone who really doesn't know what they want and is just saying things to generate them clicks. at any cost. [14:22] Guest91 may 19 [14:23] *activelow (~activelow@5gn77wvjxid7a.irc) has joined #techrights [14:24] brabo so? anything anyone should know to form an objective opinion was on the table at that time [14:24] techrights-news All-Russian PCs featuring Arm SoC and Linux are now shipping http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154342#comment-30512 [14:24] Guest91 we went self-hosted [14:24] Guest91 as we had planned a year prior [14:25] brabo what does that have to do with the words you put in your posts? [14:25] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [14:25] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [14:26] Guest91 we always thought big networks were bad [14:26] Guest91 even weeks prior [14:26] Guest91 before Lee [14:28] superkuh Uh huh. But, specifically, the false claims you made. [14:28] Guest91 http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/communication-channels-cancel-mobbed/ [14:28] Guest91 those are still the people who run LC [14:29] superkuh Regarding libera and cancel culture... totally false and kind of crazy. It really made me question your judgment as a whole on other issues in other domains. [14:29] Guest91 some of them did engage in this [14:29] Guest91 in fact, their names are still in the anti-RMS letter [14:29] superkuh Uh, I looked that up at the time and told you it was only 1. [14:29] superkuh You refused to re-check then and stick to it now? [14:30] Guest91 no, it was a mistake [14:30] superkuh Again, this kind of mistakes and clinging to shit to save face... it makes me wonder. [14:30] Guest91 and we corrected the mistake [14:30] superkuh Maybe novell is actually fine? [14:30] Guest91 novell had extensive prior background [14:33] brabo superkuh: oh did only this post make you question his judgement? ;) [14:34] superkuh Honestly, yes. [14:34] superkuh I feel a bit sheepish about it. [14:35] Guest91 this proves to me how big networks are like social control media [14:35] Guest91 puting together opposites [14:35] Guest91 and lowering the value of a discussion [14:35] brabo techrights has long been seen by many as a tabloid quality blog :p [14:35] Guest91 laters.... [14:35] brabo by a self proclaimed Dr. [14:35] brabo or did you get a doctorate yet? [14:35] superkuh Easy to ignore that kind of thing when I agree with so many of the arguments. [14:36] schestowitz-TR superkuh: now you see why it's better to self-host? [14:36] schestowitz-TR you end up arguing with people who dislike you to begin with [14:36] schestowitz-TR and you are not likely to coinvince them [14:36] schestowitz-TR that's an issue freenode too occassionaly had [14:36] schestowitz-TR they are not trolls [14:37] superkuh ... you think he's a troll? [14:37] schestowitz-TR but to be conductive we need to focus on discussion unlike what LC has right now [14:37] schestowitz-TR no [14:37] schestowitz-TR I said no [14:37] schestowitz-TR but... [14:37] schestowitz-TR they are not there to fight with us by can slow things down [14:37] schestowitz-TR *but [14:37] superkuh Huh. I was just about to say that hiding in a safe space to avoid criticism was a downside. [14:37] schestowitz-TR people who think like him would not connect to ther network [14:37] schestowitz-TR \/join #something is faster [14:37] schestowitz-TR and then tire us down [14:38] superkuh I do get that constant aggressive people is tiring. [14:38] schestowitz-TR superkuh: I know what you mean by that, but also fighting with your enemies like in twitter is not good use of resources [14:38] superkuh But maybe, at least the last few months, it's been legit criticism. [14:38] schestowitz-TR I have done activism for decades [14:38] schestowitz-TR I know how counterproductive this can get [14:38] superkuh K. [14:39] schestowitz-TR I'd rather read and write than fight [14:39] schestowitz-TR they can criticise as they wish [14:39] cbrtrnx[m] It's kind of surprising though how it went downhill with freenode. Although that Lee guy was involved in funding many opensource projects before (with considerable amounts) [14:40] superkuh Eh... or so he claims. [14:40] superkuh Lee's claims about the amount of money he put into Freenode were false. [14:40] superkuh pre takeover. [14:40] cbrtrnx[m] What do you mean? You can read about all the donations, it's public info [14:40] schestowitz-TR (it is our argument against social control media) [14:40] superkuh link? [14:41] schestowitz-TR divisive and unnecessarily hostile, platform owners like it ("engagement" for ads) [14:41] superkuh https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27261251 [14:42] superkuh Yeah, like how you treated libera. [14:43] superkuh False claims, extremely divisive and unnecessarily hostile and wrong. [14:43] superkuh But I bet you got a lot of clicks. [14:43] superkuh Glass houses and all that. [14:43] schestowitz-TR did I name-call them? [14:44] schestowitz-TR did I do it in their platform? [14:44] superkuh Yes. Yes. [14:44] superkuh But the later issue seems irrelevant? [14:44] superkuh re: on their platform. [14:45] superkuh Not talking and hiding in a echo chamber is how freenode died. [14:45] superkuh Sorry, how "leenode" died. [14:45] schestowitz-TR we wrote far more articles critical of freenode than defensive [14:46] superkuh Do you really believe that? [14:46] schestowitz-TR I know that [14:46] schestowitz-TR I wrote those [14:46] schestowitz-TR maybe the first week alone there was a grace period [14:46] cbrtrnx[m] I wasn't referring to freenode, but the handshake donations. Easy to find. E.g.: "Trisquel Association received an USD 100.000 donation." "no strings attached", gnome (400.000), OpenBSD, gimp, guix, etc. - [14:47] cbrtrnx[m] I don't know the details regarding those freenode story [14:47] cbrtrnx[m] *that [14:47] schestowitz-TR presumption of innocence matters too [14:52] techrights-news Why based a distro on #fedora when #ibm acts the way it does? https://fedoramagazine.org/build-your-own-fedora-iot-remix/ [14:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Build your own Fedora IoT Remix - Fedora Magazine [14:52] XRevan86 superkuh: schestowitz wrote a lot on how freenode was becoming what it has become now. Criticism of Libera is a different issue in my opinion. He didn't really touch the topic in the later articles except for the same-named channel that exists there and lack of desire to trust a network again. [14:53] XRevan86 schestowitz: CrystalMath answered about the database yesterday: it hasn't been wiped again. [14:53] MinceR confirmed [14:54] schestowitz-TR how many people are even online there? [14:54] MinceR and it still sets the vhost twice :D [14:54] schestowitz-TR 1000-2000? [14:54] MinceR 11 155422 [freenode2] -!- Current global users: 1131 Max: 1135 [14:54] schestowitz-TR haha [14:54] MinceR "millions"! [14:54] schestowitz-TR they lost 99% of users [14:55] superkuh I'm going through May first. So far is 3 articles insulting and implying libera staff and users are racists, or evil, and 0 against freenode. 2 supporting freenode and saying they always had ads and it was always like this and lee is right. [14:55] superkuh I'm sure by late July you'll have changed your tune. [14:55] superkuh But far, far too late. [14:56] XRevan86 superkuh: No, in June. [14:56] schestowitz-TR no, in May [14:56] XRevan86 Or in May too, not sure. [14:56] MinceR yeah, he should have immediately condemned lee on the basis of hearsay [14:56] schestowitz-TR iirc, in may they hijacked channels [14:56] MinceR also, he should have joined illibera staff in attempting to cancel RMS [14:56] MinceR because they're always right [14:56] superkuh Conflating RMS into this issue was itself stupid. [14:56] MinceR yeah [14:56] schestowitz-TR it is not entirely [14:56] schestowitz-TR similar situation [14:56] superkuh It was never about cancel culture, had nothing to do with RMS. [14:56] schestowitz-TR or rushing to conclusions [14:57] MinceR it's totally normal and acceptable for networks advertising themselves as being about and for free software to do what they can against free software [14:57] MinceR all hail ibm! [14:57] superkuh It was literally a mentally ill cocaine user with delusions taking over and it was obvious to most of us immediately on talking to him. [14:57] XRevan86 superkuh: It's the only thing MinceR can talk about. [14:57] MinceR well, cocaine use is not that common around here so i can't diagnose it by simply chatting with someone on IRC [14:58] schestowitz-TR btw, it was LEE was called it cancel culture [14:58] superkuh MinceR, I used the court documents. [14:58] MinceR i guess it's a similar skill to what imageboard users have -- diagnosing autism on the basis of imageboard posts [14:58] MinceR superkuh: the court documents list allegations, the cases i've seen haven't been decided yet [14:58] MinceR superkuh: the plaintiffs could have put anything in writing and you would have believed all of it as gospel [14:58] schestowitz-TR Ariadne shared this court documents a week or so later [14:59] schestowitz-TR I made copies [14:59] superkuh MinceR, correct. So many of his employees all said the same thing. [14:59] superkuh Unless you're implying a large conspiracy against him? [14:59] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights ● Aug 11 [15:00] MinceR i guess we should have also wiped our own memories of what the previous freenode staff did and considered them to be morally perfect instead [15:00] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:00] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154393 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [15:00] MinceR because A being evil proves B being good, right? [15:00] superkuh MinceR, what did they do? [15:00] MinceR iirc RichiH silenced me with no good reason [15:00] MinceR ask CrystalMath/jn for other incidents [15:00] superkuh I've been on freenode since 2001 (an account since 2004) and I have only had pleasant experiences. But that, much like your individual experience, proves nothing. [15:01] MinceR perhaps you were better at avoiding staff [15:01] superkuh Anyway, sorry to bring it up again. I'm glad we're all past it now. [15:02] XRevan86 MinceR: His incidents are barely that. The only incident that is interesting he doesn't know for sure even happened. [15:02] techrights-news More PCLOS Updates http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151867#comment-30513 [15:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS: Latest Package Updates, Magazine, and Screenshots | Tux Machines [15:03] XRevan86 nor the context of it [15:03] schestowitz-TR freenode was not a monolith [15:03] schestowitz-TR some stuff was excellent [15:03] schestowitz-TR freenode is a monolith now [15:03] schestowitz-TR a crackpot [15:03] MinceR the good stuff was probably ages ago [15:03] schestowitz-TR MinceR: some staff was there for decades [15:04] schestowitz-TR they did not vet well [15:04] schestowitz-TR maybe also christel's fault [15:04] schestowitz-TR maybe they thought free meant "no salary" [15:04] schestowitz-TR so they can exercise authority to compensate for the labour [15:04] MinceR :> [15:04] schestowitz-TR idealogical ego trips [15:06] schestowitz-TR it would be easier to silence MinceR [15:06] schestowitz-TR because his temper is different from mine [15:06] schestowitz-TR and he has no online presence like blog [15:06] schestowitz-TR so the blowback or backlash for silencinng him would be small [15:07] schestowitz-TR no voice in freenode, gaslit4 life [15:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 17.30 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 95.68 swarm size (avg): 275.03 [15:07] schestowitz-TR so they target these people [15:07] schestowitz-TR you never hear of them again [15:07] schestowitz-TR you don't even know what happened to them [15:07] schestowitz-TR unless they message techrights [15:07] schestowitz-TR and then you know who's who [15:08] MinceR i'm on 11 networks [15:08] schestowitz-TR oftc has some of the same people as 'staff' [15:08] XRevan86 MinceR: How many people are on Joseon in #techrights? [15:08] MinceR so there isn't that much they can do now :> [15:08] MinceR 9, including ChanServ and tr-bridge [15:09] schestowitz-TR not bad, I guess [15:09] schestowitz-TR after wiping almost 90% of what was on freenode [15:09] schestowitz-TR we did not have 70 people online since June or July [15:09] schestowitz-TR so now lee gets to have his comfort men [15:10] schestowitz-TR to help his ego [15:10] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:10] XRevan86 When I said yesterday that the bridge is approaching the end of its utility, I didn't think it'll become this useless this quickly. [15:10] MinceR if he can massage his ego with having 1131 users :> [15:10] schestowitz-TR we might even be the busiest channel in that network [15:11] XRevan86 schestowitz: Apart from #joseon/#freenode, of course. [15:11] schestowitz-TR maybe not even that? [15:11] XRevan86 They're probably going nuts right now. [15:12] schestowitz-TR they don't care for his nuts [15:12] schestowitz-TR "look ma! I wiped 99% of an IRC network" [15:13] schestowitz-TR from hero to zero in 90 days [15:13] XRevan86 schestowitz: Not hero though. [15:13] schestowitz-TR in his own mind [15:13] MinceR :> [15:13] schestowitz-TR the whole network can run on one virtual [15:13] schestowitz-TR not even physical server [15:13] MinceR and nothing of value was lost [15:13] schestowitz-TR alex has over-provisioned [15:14] XRevan86 schestowitz: In his own mind he just brought back the Nation of Joseon. What's more heroic than that? [15:15] schestowitz-TR his own mind [15:15] schestowitz-TR you overestimate that word [15:15] schestowitz-TR mind [15:16] schestowitz-TR the way he chatted with me was very unprofessional [15:16] schestowitz-TR infantile mind [15:16] XRevan86 schestowitz: in his own head [15:16] MinceR :> [15:17] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/08/communication-channels-cancel-mobbed/ [15:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Pro-Software Freedom Advocates and Free/Libre Software Supporters Face Barriers Due to Domination of Communication Channels (Beyond the Media) | Techrights [15:17] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/762540.png [15:17] schestowitz this is still LC [15:17] schestowitz behind the curtain [15:17] schestowitz same people [15:17] XRevan86 schestowitz: There's no curtain. [15:18] schestowitz-TR there is [15:18] schestowitz-TR PMs [15:19] schestowitz https://www.jfklibrary.org/archives/other-resources/john-f-kennedy-speeches/american-newspaper-publishers-association-19610427 [15:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jfklibrary.org | The President and the Press: Address before the American Newspaper Publishers Association, April 27, 1961 | JFK Library [15:19] schestowitz "The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary [15:19] schestowitz restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is [15:19] schestowitz high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know." [15:20] techrights-news #Kernel Work by Intel http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154394 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel Work by Intel | Tux Machines [15:27] superkuh Okay. In May: 4 against libera, 2 pro-leenode, 2 neutral but supporting Lee (before the actual split), 1 worried about Lee owning things (may 12th). In June: 1 against libera, 2 against leenode, 3 against both. Looks like you realized Lee was Lee sometime in late-June. So my July guess was wrong. But so was your claim about posting more against freenode than libera. [15:29] techrights-news #ProprietarySoftware Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154395 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:29] schestowitz-TR superkuh: that's just blog posts [15:29] schestowitz-TR check irc logs :-) [15:29] schestowitz-TR we didn't want to get booted [15:30] superkuh Easy to donate something you invented from scratch. [15:30] schestowitz-TR "In May: 4 against libera" [15:30] superkuh I actually have a handshake account, was part of the alpha/beta/whatever. At least until I realized it was part of Lees scam companies. [15:30] schestowitz-TR we almost never even named that network [15:30] schestowitz-TR to it's odd to put it like this [15:30] superkuh I severely doubt any real USD could be re-couped from handshake donations. [15:31] superkuh Or even any real bitcoin. [15:31] schestowitz-TR the only time we named it was when we said we are "NOT" on it [15:31] schestowitz-TR to avoid confusion [15:31] superkuh And even if they someone managed to convert handshake to a real cryptocurrency it was basically all done to promote the handshake cryptocurrency. [15:32] superkuh Which he wants to get big because he's a founder and sitting on a pile of coins. [15:32] superkuh Oh, so I do have to paste the links then? [15:32] superkuh I wanted to avoid spamming. [15:32] *XRevan86 wanted to point out how the "freenode #live" link in the footer hasn't worked for ages, but then realised that no one cares. [15:32] schestowitz-TR ok, go ahead [15:32] schestowitz-TR no harm, not spamming [15:33] superkuh http://techrights.org/2021/05/29/freenode-situation/ http://techrights.org/2021/05/22/freenode-ads/ http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/think-about-facts/ http://techrights.org/2021/05/21/freenode-facts/ http://techrights.org/2021/05/20/freenode-users/ http://techrights.org/2021/05/14/free-software-movement-and-irc/ http://techrights.org/2021/05/14/how-freenode-works/ http://techrights.org/2021/05/13/freenode-advice/ http://techrights.org/2021/05/1 [15:33] superkuh 3/private-internet-access-and-freenode/ http://techrights.org/2021/06/25/irc-clarity/ http://techrights.org/2021/06/25/andrew-lee-l0de-interview/ http://techrights.org/2021/06/19/meme-irc-wars-in-a-nutshell/ [15:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode is Not Dying, the Media is Just Lying | Techrights [15:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freenode Ads/Company Banners Are a 2-Decade Tradition Which Predates PIA/LTM | Techrights [15:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Mob Rushes in Where Individuals Fear to Tread. 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Skinner, Walden Two | Techrights [15:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Freenode Users Exodus as Self-Fulfilling Prophecy Boosted by Those Looking to Gain | Techrights [15:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Theres a Staff Exodus at Freenode, But Its Not a Users Exodus (No Compelling Practical Reasons to Leave) | Techrights [15:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Protecting Freenode is Protecting the Free Software Movement | Techrights [15:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Understanding How Freenode (IRC) Works or Doesnt Work in 2021 | Techrights [15:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Need for Reliable Governance at Freenode | Techrights [15:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 2021 May 01 | Techrights [15:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights is NOT on Libera Chat, Techrights Has Its Own IRC Network | Techrights [15:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Annotated Transcript of Andrew Lee (Freenode) Interview With Lode Ray Dio | Techrights [15:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] IRC Wars in a Nutshell | Techrights [15:34] superkuh These are the set I derived the above counts from. They definitely include the word libera in they were counted by me as "against libera". [15:34] superkuh if they [15:34] MinceR does freenode turning into joseon somehow turn illibera into a good network for free software discussion? [15:34] schestowitz-TR that's what I said in LC; [15:35] superkuh No. Libera became the best network when leenode was created. [15:35] schestowitz-TR namely, that one negative does not make the other positive [15:35] schestowitz-TR both can be negatives in different ways [15:35] superkuh Because libera is Freenode. [15:35] superkuh While Leenode is leenode. [15:35] MinceR lol [15:35] MinceR even freenode never was the best network [15:35] superkuh ... [15:35] MinceR hell, they used to claim it wasn't even irc [15:35] superkuh For open source and technical discussion it wasn't even a contest. [15:35] MinceR yeah [15:36] superkuh Sure, I'm on 29 other networks, but freenode was the best and the best of freenode went to libera. [15:36] MinceR if you don't want abusive opers interfere with it, avoid illibera, oftc and leenode [15:36] brabo isn't the handshake andrew lee someone else than the leenode lee? [15:36] *superkuh rolls eyes. [15:37] MinceR also, freenode was one of the splittiest networks i know, up there with ircnet [15:38] techrights-news Links 11/8/2021: OBS Studio Growth and More on elementary OS 6 http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/obs-studio-growth/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/11/obs-studio-growth/ [15:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 11/8/2021: OBS Studio Growth and More on elementary OS 6 | Techrights [15:38] phobos/jn * 315 :unknown connections [15:38] phobos/jn * 3812 :channels formed [15:38] phobos/jn * I have 230 clients and 1 servers [15:38] phobos/jn * Current local users: 230 Max: 230 [15:38] phobos/jn * Current global users: 579 Max: 579 [15:38] schestowitz-TR 0/ [15:38] schestowitz-TR phebus: in joseon? [15:38] phobos/jn yep [15:39] schestowitz-TR very small network [15:39] schestowitz-TR used to be 95k [15:39] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154396 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [15:39] XRevan86 phobos: There was a thousand earlier. Did they leave? [15:39] schestowitz-TR maybe they realised they were in the wrong place [15:39] schestowitz-TR like I said this morning [15:39] schestowitz-TR like, wth is this? [15:40] schestowitz-TR like the time ubuntu directed rianne's PC to LC [15:40] schestowitz-TR instead of freenode [15:40] XRevan86 phobos: "Max: 579" is this an up-to-date number? [15:40] phobos/jn XRevan: Looks like they decided to purge alternate nicks. Now its one nick per account and cannot use the same email to register another nick [15:40] phobos/jn XRevan86: lemme double check [15:40] gustaf immutable [15:41] XRevan86 phobos: Yes, that is correct. [15:41] gustaf schestowitz-TR: that was just Ubuntu pointing their nameservers at another host [15:41] gustaf irc.ubuntu -> irc.libera instead of irc.freenode [15:41] phobos558/jn [08:41] [Users] There are 7 users and 1129 invisible on 13 servers [15:41] phobos558/jn [08:41] [Users] 5 operator(s) online [15:41] phobos558/jn [08:41] [Users] 256 unknown connections [15:41] phobos558/jn [08:41] [Users] 5016 channels formed [15:41] phobos558/jn [08:41] [Users] I have 341 clients and 1 servers [15:41] phobos558/jn [08:41] [Users] Current users on taejo.joseon.kr: 341 Max: 359. [15:41] phobos558/jn [08:41] [Users] Current users on the network: 1136 Max: 1138 [15:41] XRevan86 Yea, that looks up-to-date. [15:42] superkuh There are two and both are involved, but leenode lee through one of his proxy companies. iirc. [15:42] superkuh Both JJ and Andrew Lee are handshake founders. [15:43] XRevan86 phobos: See? Not so bad on Choson, it's not 500, it's 1000 :D [15:43] *job has quit (connection closed) [15:44] phobos/jn all I know is that I'm about ready to jump ship. Can't register another nick because apparently 'This email address is forbidden' [15:44] phobos/jn Its @mail.com [15:44] *phobos/jn shrugs [15:44] XRevan86 Oh hey, another one they banned. [15:44] gustaf that's... a big one [15:44] cbrtrnx[m] "I severely doubt any real USD..." <- Don't get it. Didn't they donate USD? Only crypto? [15:45] schestowitz #techrights at irc.techrights.org is where like 99% of activity is [15:45] gustaf so can't have hotmail/office, nor gmail, nor throwaways [15:45] gustaf wtf [15:45] XRevan86 schestowitz: Nah, 99.9999% [15:45] XRevan86 gustaf: gmail was allowed last I checked. [15:46] gustaf phobos/jn: used it before? [15:46] schestowitz-TR mail.com [15:46] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: leee claims to like privacy [15:46] schestowitz-TR uses macbook air [15:46] schestowitz-TR gmail ok [15:46] schestowitz-TR others not [15:46] schestowitz-TR it's not even consistent [15:47] superkuh That's how I interpreted it. Reading the page now it seems it was a mix. And the USD wasn't from handshake, but from external sponsors. [15:47] XRevan86 schestowitz: He hates Apple now, so maybe he'll ditch the macbook? (unlikely) [15:47] gustaf Macbook is a status marker [15:48] phobos/jn give him a few days... he'll be back to loving apple [15:48] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [15:48] superkuh External sponsors donated USD and received Handshake in return. The donated USD and some handshake was then distributed to some open source projects. [15:48] superkuh So, at it's core, lee wasn't really donating his own money but instead using the early pyramid scheme income. [15:49] leah omg [15:49] leah i've done it [15:49] superkuh ref: https://handshake.org/grant-sponsors/ [15:49] leah i've done it [15:49] leah but i won't say what it is [15:49] leah not until i've confirmed that i've done it [15:49] leah ...also sorry, i meant to put this in another channel. disregard [15:50] gustaf tease [15:50] leah i've managed to kill one of my channels on freenode [15:50] leah *and i'm still an op there* [15:50] leah i won [15:51] *leah did it [15:51] XRevan86 leah: I'd like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as freenode, is in fact, Joseon, or as I've recently taken to calling it, the virtual nation of Choson. [15:52] MinceR :> [15:52] MinceR chsen [15:52] gustaf lol [15:52] leah it's a steaming pile of shit run by someone who regularly hallucinates on whatever shit he snorts up his nose [15:52] schestowitz domain hijacked [15:53] schestowitz the chsen one [15:53] schestowitz zero [15:53] schestowitz root [15:53] MinceR :> [15:53] MinceR Xaero [15:53] schestowitz systemd [15:53] schestowitz prozzzes eins [15:54] MinceR that's pid eins [15:54] schestowitz DAS IST GUT!!! [15:54] leah yeah i can't change my nick on freenode either [15:54] schestowitz (you don't have to shout, dear) [15:54] leah i have leah registered there, and i group two other nicks [15:54] schestowitz "DAS MAIN NORMAL VOIZE!" [15:54] schestowitz *Mein [15:54] leah if i now try to change to one of the grouped nicks, it says: [15:54] leah you must use your irc.com account [15:55] XRevan86 leah: /nick is disabled. [15:55] leah which i guess is the leah account. but i registered it via nickserv, before they made that change [15:55] leah yeah [15:55] leah now it forces sasl [15:55] leah i am the only person there, in one of my channels [15:55] leah a channel that had hundreds of people [15:55] MinceR i wonder what will happen if someone pings out and reconnects and their old connection is still there [15:55] leah and i didn't kick anyone [15:55] schestowitz I have a favour to ask [15:55] leah i won [15:55] leah :) [15:56] schestowitz can someone screenshot for me the /lusers in joseon [15:56] MinceR somehow i suspect they didn't think about that case [15:56] schestowitz I know I could use text, but it is for a meme [15:56] MinceR just that part of the screen? [15:56] brabo classy [15:56] schestowitz ues [15:56] schestowitz yes [15:56] MinceR i'll do it [15:56] schestowitz thanks [15:56] leah 1141, schestowitz [15:56] schestowitz yes, the whole lot [15:56] leah 1141 users right now, according to /lusers, on joseon [15:56] leah the entire network [15:56] leah 1141 [15:56] XRevan86 leah: No, he wants a picture. [15:56] schestowitz I'll merge that into the meme [15:56] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [15:57] schestowitz hi, Despatche [15:57] schestowitz type /history #techrights 1h [15:57] schestowitz to see what happened [15:57] leah that's why my channels there are empty then [15:57] leah lol [15:57] leah i made the right call, to jump off that burning ship [15:57] schestowitz it outlived its value [15:58] Despatche oh neat, a rollback. thanks [15:58] leah 1141 [15:58] leah seriously [15:58] XRevan86 leah: I'm glad I was sceptical even when I was inclined to support Andrew. [15:58] schestowitz Despatche: ircv3 [15:58] MinceR schestowitz: https://files.catbox.moe/6n4sgc.png [15:58] schestowitz Despatche: scrollback [15:58] schestowitz thanks, MinceR [15:59] Despatche if freenode was so good how come there isn't a freenode2 etc [15:59] MinceR it wasn't so good [15:59] MinceR people somehow got it into their heads that it's unacceptable to have free software project channels on general purpose networks ● Aug 11 [16:00] leah XRevan86: me too [16:00] MinceR meanwhile these networks were run by a clique on donated servers, and they decided that they get to do anything with their captive audience [16:00] MinceR as they grew, they attracted worse and worse people [16:01] schestowitz I will do a Shrek meme [16:02] MinceR get out of my swamp? [16:03] phobos/jn Does anyone know if Andrew really has any long term plans? [16:03] phobos/jn Or is he just having fun burning the place down? [16:04] MinceR lol [16:04] MinceR Andrew knows [16:05] psydruid It is the heavenly abode of Joseon now [16:05] psydruid may it rest in peace [16:05] psydruid and in pieces [16:06] Ariadne https://freenode.net/news/on-power-to-the-people [16:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | On Power to the People - freenode [16:06] Ariadne is there going to be a freenodeCoin or something [16:06] phobos/jn What a shame that he is destroying it. Not to sound like I'm defending him, but it is his network so he can destroy it if he wants to [16:07] schestowitz does this look ok? [16:07] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/freenode-down-to-a-thousand/ [16:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Freenode Lost 99% of Its Users in Less Than 3 Months | Techrights [16:07] schestowitz MinceR: ^ [16:07] MinceR lol [16:07] phobos/jn lol looks good to me [16:08] schestowitz ok, will publish as final [16:08] MinceR 11 170628 < Ariadne> is there going to be a freenodeCoin or something [16:08] MinceR that would be Mun or Yang [16:08] phobos/jn Other servers were reallocated for other networks? Or he dumped all but this one [16:09] techrights-news [Meme] #Freenode Lost 99% of Its Users in Less Than 3 Months http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/freenode-down-to-a-thousand/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/11/freenode-down-to-a-thousand/ [16:09] XRevan86 phobos: Maybe he realised he only needs one. [16:09] MinceR or, if "Chosn Minjujui Inmin Konghwaguk" is close enough, then Korean People's won :> [16:09] phobos/jn * 5030 :channels formed [16:09] phobos/jn * I have 342 clients and 1 servers [16:09] phobos/jn * Current local users: 342 Max: 359 [16:09] phobos/jn * Current global users: 1143 Max: 1147 [16:09] phobos/jn With this few, yeah... a p2 box could handle that easily [16:10] MinceR they lie about servers and layout though [16:10] MinceR /links only shows one as well [16:10] schestowitz they can run it all off a single machines [16:10] schestowitz *machine [16:10] schestowitz no netsplits anymore [16:10] schestowitz online offline/online [16:11] MinceR and i think someone mentioned a server name different from the one i'm on [16:11] phobos/jn I honestly don't get it. If I were him, I would have let it be with maybe a few modifications to the daemon. The bad PR would have eventually blown over once the libera people got done with their hissy fit and the network would have continued on [16:11] MinceR actually i can snoop around with /whois [16:11] MinceR yeah, i also would have announced the changes well in advance, properly [16:11] XRevan86 chat.joseon.kr gives out a new IP every time. [16:11] MinceR but then i'm not the cocaine-addled prince of a state that doesn't even exist anymore [16:12] schestowitz is that a feature? [16:12] schestowitz XRevan86: why would it do that? [16:12] MinceR whois doesn't reveal server names anymore [16:12] phobos/jn But this... either he has big delusions of grantor or he is just enjoying torching the place [16:12] schestowitz this flux could be decentralisation at access point? [16:12] MinceR maybe the idea was to decentralize but first chase away the undesirable people [16:12] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's a feature a round-robin address. [16:13] phobos/jn grandeur* [16:13] phobos/jn damn you, autocorrect [16:13] schestowitz how is that a feature? [16:13] schestowitz for dns? [16:13] XRevan86 schestowitz: It picks different servers for clients. [16:13] MinceR it's a way to distribute load [16:13] schestowitz but does it do that? [16:13] XRevan86 And it means that there are many different servers still. [16:13] schestowitz how many servers are there? 2? [16:13] schestowitz maybe it's not round robin but andom [16:14] schestowitz *random [16:14] MinceR host chat.joseon.kr shows me 7 ip addresses [16:14] schestowitz or based on least load [16:14] schestowitz cpu schedulers and ha work like that [16:14] MinceR apparently 7 A records on the same domain name [16:14] schestowitz wow, talk about over-provisioning [16:14] MinceR it's probably random [16:14] schestowitz they know how many accounts irc.com had [16:14] MinceR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round-robin_DNS [16:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Round-robin DNS - Wikipedia [16:14] schestowitz what are those rapis? [16:15] XRevan86 MinceR: They differ each time as well. [16:15] schestowitz babana pis? [16:15] schestowitz *banana [16:15] XRevan86 schestowitz: Anyway, it's probably still 20+ servers. [16:15] schestowitz used to be 22 [16:15] schestowitz I checked about 2 days ago [16:15] XRevan86 Yea, that. [16:15] schestowitz maybe shells game server [16:15] schestowitz with some shared account for irc [16:15] schestowitz maybe shells game is also failing [16:16] XRevan86 schestowitz: I really don't think it had any donated servers :) [16:16] schestowitz and so they're left with mostly unused hardware [16:16] XRevan86 so yea, have to be the Lee servers [16:16] schestowitz yes, alex's [16:16] schestowitz shells game [16:16] schestowitz aka shells.com [16:16] XRevan86 schestowitz: Don't overthink this, for an enterprise like Shells an IRC network is nothing. Especially not a big one. [16:16] MinceR a low traffic ircd doesn't take up a lot of resources anyway [16:17] schestowitz esp. if idle [16:17] schestowitz it relays when something happens [16:18] schestowitz otherwise just pings like liveD [16:18] schestowitz I wonder if there is more activity in #techrights #freenode right now [16:18] schestowitz *than in freenode [16:18] *CrystalMath (~coderain@6mus5um4rz7dg.irc) has joined #techrights [16:18] *mib_ocp4ua (~3ed8ce14@kjvq8jm9s83qu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:18] schestowitz maybe lots of complaining in #freenode [16:18] XRevan86 schestowitz: #joseon is also a factor. CrystalMath should know what's going on in that. [16:18] schestowitz CrystalMath would know [16:19] *mib_ocp4ua has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [16:19] phobos/jn Not that I've seen. [16:19] phobos/jn I'm logged in there [16:19] phobos/jn pretty idle these days [16:19] techrights-news With 5 times more channels than users (because theyve imported the database) #Freenode looks like its death has been all but confirmed http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/freenode-down-to-a-thousand/ #joseon #irc #internet #selfnuke [16:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Freenode Lost 99% of Its Users in Less Than 3 Months | Techrights [16:19] XRevan86 phobos: Maybe they've moved to #joseon ? [16:20] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154397 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [16:20] phobos/jn 13 people in #joseon [16:20] schestowitz that makes a crowd [16:20] MinceR :> [16:20] schestowitz Putin would sic Moscow police at them [16:21] schestowitz "unlawful assembly" [16:21] CrystalMath 1100+ [16:21] CrystalMath on joseon.kr [16:21] MinceR i thought putin would be friendly with them [16:21] schestowitz CrystalMath: very tiny [16:21] schestowitz that's what she said [16:21] phobos/jn Pelosi would have her federal police force busting them all as insurrectionists [16:21] MinceR being supporters of his DHA-coated puppet and all [16:21] CrystalMath as i expected, there is a thousand or two people who got registered after the reset [16:21] XRevan86 MinceR: But perpetual friendship with POTUS [16:21] schestowitz to be in empty channels [16:22] schestowitz waste of bandwidth [16:22] MinceR XRevan86: just business [16:22] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Snoonet really is a big brother to freen^W Joseon, eh? [16:23] Ariadne i can guarantee you [16:23] Ariadne POTUS has no clue [16:23] Ariadne who this charlatan is [16:24] schestowitz POTUS did not even know Assange [16:24] phobos/jn He wandered away from his SS detail last night [16:24] schestowitz https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/11/trump-julian-assange-wikileaks-1269954 [16:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump today: 'I know nothing about WikiLeaks.' Trump in 2016: 'Oh, we love WikiLeaks' - POLITICO [16:24] schestowitz https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/11/politics/wikileaks-donald-trump-julian-assange-campaign/index.html [16:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | President Trump in 2016: 'I love WikiLeaks,' Trump now: 'I know nothing about WikiLeaks' - CNNPolitics [16:25] schestowitz if only lee ever gave headsup [16:25] schestowitz before emptying databases [16:25] schestowitz and messing around with dns [16:25] schestowitz but no... [16:25] schestowitz that's why I gave up in June [16:25] XRevan86 Ariadne: I know, I'm memeing. [16:26] XRevan86 Ariadne: It's a reminder that he said that. [16:27] techrights-news LF is not about #linux https://www.africanexponent.com/bpost/9129-linux-foundation-cka-exam-dumps see http://techrights.org/2021/01/25/linux-foundation-training-and-certifications/ [16:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.africanexponent.com | Linux Foundation CKA Exam Dumps | The African Exponent. [16:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation, With Over 124 Million Dollars in Annual Revenue, is in Trouble Because of the Pandemic, So Its Trying to Reinvent Itself as Training and Certifications Outfit | Techrights [16:28] techrights-news #LinuxFoundation Issued Millions of Faulty Certificates and Linux Foundation CMO Who Worked for James Clapper Has Left http://techrights.org/2020/03/04/lf-ca-crisis/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/03/04/lf-ca-crisis/ [16:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Issued Millions of Faulty Certificates and Linux Foundation CMO Who Worked for James Clapper Has Left | Techrights [16:29] XRevan86 Ariadne: Two months passed, and the nation of Joseon still hasn't gone to war on Debian. As suspected, that was just a poof. [16:29] *eYN-[i] (~twenty@8ycb5gkcgfnsi.irc) has joined #techrights [16:29] Ariadne well Joseon is working on getting some F-15s [16:29] MinceR lol [16:29] MinceR i wouldn't worry [16:29] Ariadne then they will go bomb debian developers until morale improves [16:29] MinceR they can't find debian or alpine on a map [16:30] eYN-[i] i was searching the freenode topic on twiter and ended up here [16:30] MinceR welcome, eYN-[i] [16:30] eYN-[i] i'm not going through all that whatever crap to get back over there [16:30] techrights-news #freebsd has a new committer: Daniel Engberg (ports) https://www.freebsd.org/news/newsflash/#2021-07-06:1 #bsd #unix [16:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freebsd.org | FreeBSD News Flash | The FreeBSD Project [16:30] eYN-[i] thanks [16:30] MinceR understandable [16:30] eYN-[i] i didn't realize they were gonna like pull the plug last night i guess, for me anyways [16:30] psymin I've never heard of handshake. It sounds like it is proof of work, so that could mean it is a real cryptocurrency. Can you explain more? [16:31] XRevan86 eYN-[i]: Would've been the 1142nd user there :) [16:31] MinceR they don't like proper advance notices [16:31] eYN-[i] yeah lol [16:31] Ariadne unsurprisingly, `ariadne@dereferenced.org` is blacklisted in their system [16:31] schestowitz-TR haha [16:31] schestowitz-TR well done [16:31] schestowitz-TR they had you on "THE" list [16:31] MinceR :> [16:31] schestowitz-TR better mail than jail [16:32] MinceR regarding maps and bombing places, remember that "Africa is a beautiful country" [16:32] schestowitz-TR naturalisation application rejected [16:32] schestowitz-TR MinceR: Palin Lee [16:32] Ariadne no emigration to the Joseon Empire for me! [16:32] schestowitz-TR 2024 [16:33] MinceR lol [16:33] schestowitz-TR make african a great nation again [16:33] Ariadne their slogan can be "pizzagate is real -- look it up" [16:33] MinceR :> [16:33] techrights-news Proposing A New Model To Beat The Black Tax Blues https://iafrica.com/proposing-a-new-model-to-beat-the-black-tax-blues/ [16:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://iafrica.com/proposing-a-new-model-to-beat-the-black-tax-blues/ ) [16:34] schestowitz context/spoiler https://www.theguardian.com/world/oliverburkemanblog/2008/nov/06/uselections2008-sarahpalin [16:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Sarah Palin "didn't know Africa wasn't a country" | US elections 2008 | The Guardian [16:34] MinceR or "there totally is a child sex ring in a basement that doesn't even exist" [16:34] schestowitz https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/palin-didnt-know-africa-i_n_141653?ri18n=true [16:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.co.uk | Palin Didn't Know Africa Is A Continent, Says Fox News Reporter (VIDEO) | HuffPost UK [16:34] schestowitz even fox [16:34] schestowitz and she is STILL in politics [16:35] schestowitz Trump thought Finland was in Russia [16:35] schestowitz according to the book from his own subordinate [16:35] schestowitz John Bolton [16:35] XRevan86 A Joseon Empire and a country of Africa, fitting. [16:35] schestowitz people VOTE for this! [16:35] XRevan86 schestowitz: At least Finland *was* Russia, in 1916 [16:36] schestowitz when murica was still "great" [16:36] schestowitz and when africa was a shopping market for slaves [16:36] MinceR no doubt the khuilo would like to have finland inside his empire [16:37] schestowitz Nokiastan [16:37] XRevan86 MinceR: no doubt [16:37] schestowitz maybe Trump can be elected again [16:38] schestowitz and arrange for Putin to come to Finland and arrange a referendum again [16:38] schestowitz same in Alaska [16:38] schestowitz then Canada [16:38] XRevan86 And Finland keeps giving a bad reputation to its inside twin Karelia. [16:38] schestowitz Cana-da.da. [16:38] MinceR he'd first need to send soldiers with the identification badges removed [16:38] MinceR and then claim that those soldiers were on vacation [16:39] schestowitz there is lots f russian tourism in finland [16:39] schestowitz and many there speak russian [16:39] schestowitz the finns i mean [16:39] MinceR are the russian tourists usually heavily armed, though? [16:40] XRevan86 There used to be relaxed pass requirements for St. Petersburg residents. [16:40] schestowitz [14:24] All-Russian PCs featuring Arm SoC and Linux are now shipping http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154342#comment-30512 [16:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Desktop and All-in-One Arm Linux computers launched with Baikal-M processor | Tux Machines [16:40] schestowitz not ARM [16:40] schestowitz nyet [16:40] schestowitz Baikal [16:40] XRevan86 Baikals are MIPS [16:40] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/768330.jpg [16:40] XRevan86 and ARM too [16:41] XRevan86 oh, and they do RISC-V now [16:41] XRevan86 (schestowitz meant Elbrus) [16:41] MinceR "Daniel?" "He just asked if we were Soviet spies oh." "Nyet?!" [16:42] XRevan86 Danila [16:42] techrights-news #Firefox 91 is Here and Pushes Privacy with Enhanced Cookie Clearing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154345#comment-30515 [16:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Firefox 91 Arrives as the New ESR Series, Brings Back Simplified Printing | Tux Machines [16:42] XRevan86 MinceR: I remember that scene :) [16:42] MinceR :) [16:43] XRevan86 Michael Shanks is really hard to understand. [16:44] MinceR in russian? [16:44] XRevan86 MinceR: yea [16:44] MinceR i'm guessing only his character is fluent in several languages [16:44] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [16:45] techrights-news My first #programming language and early adventures https://opensource.com/article/21/8/my-first-programming-language [16:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My first programming language and early adventures | Opensource.com [16:47] XRevan86 MinceR: Yea, I guess it's strange to expect an actor to work on pronunciation for a TV show. [16:48] *schestowitz-TR cannot recall who Michael Shanks but it rings a bell [16:48] XRevan86 schestowitz: Plays Daniel Jackson in Stargate SG-1 [16:48] schestowitz-TR this year marks 20 years since I got rid of TV [16:48] schestowitz-TR Stargate sucks [16:49] schestowitz-TR A lot of the space 'dramas' do [16:49] schestowitz-TR low-budget and slow, boring [16:49] schestowitz-TR their 'aliens' are just loust make-up art [16:49] XRevan86 I'll just call them serials then, not really about television anyway. [16:49] schestowitz-TR not like Predator [16:49] Ariadne wait [16:49] Ariadne XRevan86: why does the bridge call itself /jn now [16:50] schestowitz-TR it's not freenode [16:50] schestowitz-TR it's a self-styled joseon [16:50] XRevan86 Ariadne: It bridges to the glorious virtual nation of Joseon, so it's only appropriate %) [16:50] schestowitz Ariadne: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/joseon-scam.png [16:51] Ariadne how can it be a nation if america cannot bomb it [16:51] schestowitz-TR WACO [16:51] Ariadne oh man [16:51] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing [16:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | 1985 MOVE bombing - Wikipedia [16:52] XRevan86 Ariadne: It still can though, it's so autonomous they can pull the plug on it. [16:52] Ariadne could you even imagine a Waco-style incident with Lee [16:52] schestowitz US can bomb anything [16:52] schestowitz even domestically [16:52] schestowitz there is always a way [16:52] Ariadne tanks rolling up into his $20m mansion [16:52] schestowitz even to drone-strike americans abroad [16:52] schestowitz and their two kids [16:52] schestowitz one by intention [16:52] schestowitz Ariadne: kim dotcom [16:53] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmIPVrkN1hA [16:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kim Dotcom Police Raid Video Released - YouTube [16:53] schestowitz with nice music [16:53] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmObwguVmEI [16:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kim Dotcom - The RAID - YouTube [16:54] MinceR 11 174850 < schestowitz-TR> Stargate sucks [16:54] MinceR you're wrong [16:54] schestowitz kim used to be bsed in HK [16:54] schestowitz he later realised it was unsafe [16:54] schestowitz snowden realised the same [16:54] schestowitz HK is already fried [16:54] schestowitz with "security law" [16:54] schestowitz latest: [16:55] schestowitz [08:12] NEWS #RSF #hk #PressFreedom Hong Kong: #AppleDaily founder #JimmyLai , accused under the national security law for one year, faces a life sentence https://rsf.org/en/news/hong-kong-apple-daily-founder-jimmy-lai-accused-under-national-security-law-one-year-faces-life [16:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rsf.org | Hong Kong: Apple Daily founder Jimmy Lai, accused under the national security law for one year, faces a life sentence | RSF [16:55] MinceR Michael Shanks also voiced (played?) at least one of the Asgards [16:55] XRevan86 MinceR: Can't recall them speaking Russian [16:56] techrights-news #Elasticsearch 7.14 and #Opensearch 1.0 Are Available and Work Fine With Syslog-ng https://peter.czanik.hu/other/syslog-elasticsearch-7-14-and-opensearch-1-0-are-available-and-work-fine-with-syslog-ng/ [16:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-peter.czanik.hu | Elasticsearch 7.14 and Opensearch 1.0 Are Available and Work Fine With Syslog-ng | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik [16:56] XRevan86 Ariadne: Also "j" looks like "f" upside down, and that also reflects what happened to the network. [16:57] techrights-news #Android 9.0 digital signage player supports 4G LTE, watchdog timer, screen orientation - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/08/11/android-9-0-digital-signage-player-supports-4g-lte-watchdog-timer-screen-orientation/ [16:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Android 9.0 digital signage player supports 4G LTE, watchdog timer, screen orientation - CNX Software [16:58] techrights-news #ibm #redhat is a buzzwords machine https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/8/artificial-intelligence-ai-how-evangelize [16:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | How to evangelize Artificial Intelligence (AI) in your organization | The Enterprisers Project [16:59] techrights-news 10 Best #Guitar Tuner Apps for #Android That Every Musician Must Try https://www.ubuntupit.com/best-guitar-tuner-apps-for-android/ [16:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntupit.com | 10 Best Guitar Tuner Apps for Android That Every Musician Must Try ● Aug 11 [17:00] superkuh Things can be real protocols but not real cryptocurrencies because the protocol is centrally controlled and can be changed. Like how the tor project decided to no longer support v2 services. with someone like andrew lee at the wheel you certainly can't trust it. All of his various shell companies are obviously that, but if he stacks the shit deep and interdependent enough it can seem legit and be used to scam. [17:00] XRevan86 Ariadne: https://twitter.com/ulvniya/status/1425477742489899010 stop this person!!! [17:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ulvniya: @ariadneconill oh theres something called joseon in korea should i go there is that the empire [17:00] Ariadne lol [17:01] superkuh Like getting third party donors to give him more money so he can appear like a real cool dude without actually doing anything. [17:01] MinceR if they go to Chosn Minjujui Inmin Konghwaguk, they're going to have a bad time [17:01] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [17:03] techrights-news #Box Plot http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154399 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDE [17:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Box Plot | Tux Machines [17:04] techrights-news #Debian User Forums changes and updates. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154398 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian User Forums changes and updates. | Tux Machines [17:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 16.50 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 125.35 swarm size (avg): 274.98 [17:07] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21071012 [17:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5662826) [17:07] XRevan86 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Korea "In the Korean language, the two Koreas use different terms to refer to the nominally unified nation: Chosn in North Korea and Hanguk in South Korea. Ethnic Koreans living in China and Japan also use the term Chosn to refer to Korea." [17:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Names of Korea - Wikipedia [17:07] techrights-news Notice how almost every bit of #hardware is now, all of a sudden, marketed as "HEY HI!!!" #marketing #buzzwords https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/08/11/geniatech-db10-ai-development-board-amlogic-a311d-hdmi-input-tv-tuner/ [17:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Geniatech DB10 - An AI development board with Amlogic A311D SoC, HDMI input, optional TV tuner - CNX Software [17:07] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [17:08] techrights-news #AMDVLK 2021.Q3.4 Driver Fixes "Horrifically Broken" Switchable Graphics Layer http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154400 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AMDVLK 2021.Q3.4 Driver Fixes "Horrifically Broken" Switchable Graphics Layer | Tux Machines [17:10] techrights-news "While Libre-SoC began as "Libre RISC-V" envisioned as a low-power graphics/ #Vulkan accelerator, it has morphed into a hybrid CPU/GPU design built on #OpenPOWER and in very early form seeing test fabrication on a #TSMC 180nm process." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Libre-SoC-Crypto-Project [17:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Libre-SoC Pursuing New Crypto Primitives & Instructions For OpenPOWER - Phoronix [17:11] techrights-news #EasyNAS 1.0.1 out with a bugfix today https://easynas.org/news/ #security #opensuse #gnu #linux [17:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-easynas.org | News | EasyNAS | Making storage easy [17:11] XRevan86 The naming thing is complicated. [17:12] XRevan86 "Joseon" can just mean "Korea" [17:12] XRevan86 in all senses [17:14] schestowitz XRevan86: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/freenode.txt [17:15] schestowitz he knows it's not worth the paper it's on [17:17] XRevan86 schestowitz: Thing is, he has a claim to the Lee dynasty of a particular Korean kingdom that was overthrown. [17:17] XRevan86 He has no more claim to the word "Joseon" than a claimant to the Romanov throne to the word "Rossia" [17:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [17:19] schestowitz-TR it's a trick [17:19] schestowitz-TR change the word [17:19] schestowitz-TR claim to be something [17:19] XRevan86 which could also register rossia.ru and declare some IRC network a virtual nation of the Russian Empire [17:19] schestowitz-TR like shivba and email [17:19] schestowitz-TR 'EMAIL" as a name [17:19] schestowitz-TR not the actual thing [17:20] techrights-news Since when it LPI an LF magaphone? https://www.fosslife.org/how-sboms-strengthen-software-supply-chain [17:20] XRevan86 The aforementioned USSR sect also has several successors to the gensec position with some shady paperwork to back that up. [17:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | How SBOMs Strengthen the Software Supply Chain [17:21] XRevan86 Maybe they can register ussr.su and make that into an IRC network. [17:21] schestowitz with 1:100 conversion rates? [17:21] XRevan86 schestowitz: hah [17:21] schestowitz you'd need to start with facebook at a billion accounts [17:22] schestowitz to be left with 10 million, like an average nation [17:22] schestowitz fb is full if fake accounts [17:22] schestowitz only fb knows how many [17:22] schestowitz twitter also knows many are fake [17:22] schestowitz their estimates would not impress shareholders [17:22] schestowitz so they keep lying like oher 'tech' companies [17:22] schestowitz spy tech [17:22] schestowitz_log https://twitter.com/TriciaEdwards2/status/1421026449461555200"dMacedonia's "Capitol Hill" moment in April 2017 when supporters of Gruevski stormed the parliament.Stasi gamifie [17:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TriciaEdwards2: @schestowitz That is total ignorance. [17:23] schestowitz oops [17:23] schestowitz Stasi gamified [17:23] schestowitz ^ wrong window [17:25] techrights-news So badly out of date. Which version of #linux is #android 7? https://www.technovelty.org/toys/lyte-portable-projector-investigation.html [17:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technovelty.org | NO TITLE [17:25] XRevan86 Also, the Russian (Moscovian) state existed from the XIII century, so it's older than the Joseon Empire :) [17:28] XRevan86 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanov_Empire_(micronation) this :D [17:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Romanov Empire (micronation) - Wikipedia [17:29] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Can ye share the above link with Andrew? Established in 1263 %) [17:30] techrights-news IBM/Red Hat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154401 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:31] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154402 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [17:31] XRevan86 MinceR: https://i.redd.it/shb7kb2i3ng71.jpg [17:32] XRevan86 There are definitely "nations" out there that are older and have just as much legitimacy as Andrew's Joseon. [17:33] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: lol [17:34] schestowitz-TR must be intentional [17:34] schestowitz-TR no matter how you arrange them [17:34] schestowitz-TR it would be bad [17:34] XRevan86 schestowitz: Yes, it's lovely :) [17:34] *mib_zksz4s (~257889a7@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [17:34] schestowitz-TR hi MinceR [17:34] schestowitz-TR mib_zksz4s I meant [17:35] schestowitz-TR seems like we have a south korea situation [17:35] schestowitz-TR refugees fleeing [17:35] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche?wprov=srpw1_0 [17:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Juche - Wikipedia [17:36] psydruid welcome to the citizens of Mibistan [17:37] schestowitz-TR it's also an empire [17:37] schestowitz-TR of cure frogs [17:37] schestowitz-TR *cute [17:37] schestowitz-TR iirc, their logo is MIBBIT MIBBIT! [17:38] schestowitz-TR Joseon has no operatora and moderators [17:38] schestowitz-TR they are called umpires [17:38] schestowitz-TR Chief umpire HIH [17:39] schestowitz I just had to check if it's a French word and it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umpire [17:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Umpire - Wikipedia [17:39] schestowitz "The term derives from the Old French nonper, non, "not" and per, "equal": "one who is requested to act as arbiter of a dispute between two people"." [17:41] psydruid an advocate of non-parity [17:41] *mib_zksz4s has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [17:42] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:42] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:46] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:46] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:50] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/08/11/alexey-navalny-indicted-for-creating-an-organization-that-infringes-on-russian-citizens-rights [17:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [17:50] XRevan86 > Alexey Navalny indicted for creating an organisation that infringes on Russian citizens rights [17:53] MinceR 11 183121 < XRevan86> MinceR: https://i.redd.it/shb7kb2i3ng71.jpg [17:53] MinceR lol [17:55] XRevan86 schestowitz: "[20:34] Can I write to you in confidence?" [17:55] XRevan86 I feel like I should stop reading after this point. [17:56] XRevan86 schestowitz: I don't like that ye shared that after saying "yes" to that question. [17:59] CrystalMath oh really? ● Aug 11 [18:00] MinceR well, it doesn't look good [18:00] MinceR but i don't remember reading that article [18:00] CrystalMath that's not nice of schestowitz [18:06] AdmFubar https://hackaday.com/2021/08/11/should-you-be-able-to-repair-it-we-think-so/ [18:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Should You Be Able To Repair It? We Think So. | Hackaday [18:13] AdmFubar https://hackaday.com/2021/08/10/hiding-links-in-plain-sight-with-bookmark-knocking/ [18:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hiding Links In Plain Sight With Bookmark Knocking | Hackaday [18:13] XRevan86 > This means that the annexation of joseon into Japan was null and void. [18:13] XRevan86 Oh no. Not this again! [18:14] XRevan86 USSR's dissolution was illegal, by the way. [18:14] gerikson I'm still on FN just to see what happens, but if you're gonna need to buy crapto to connect, I'm out [18:14] XRevan86 therefore it's still here [18:14] gerikson not touching the poop [18:14] gustaf XRevan86: I found the USSR peeps by googling Reichsburger [18:14] XRevan86 https://youtu.be/bBMeMrPuQyU [18:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Simpsons - Return of The Soviet Union - YouTube [18:14] gustaf activelow should know about them [18:15] gustaf it's just sovereign citizens [18:15] gustaf SovCits [18:15] gustaf freemen on the land [18:15] XRevan86 gustaf: yes, it's the same deal [18:15] XRevan86 And Andrew Lee is going the same route as well. [18:15] gustaf yeh [18:16] gustaf also thanks for the link to the Romanov Empire [18:17] gustaf so weird [18:17] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Ye wanted some context to understand what's going on better? There it is. [18:18] XRevan86 Andrew Lee thinks that the Joseon Empire was dissolved illegally, therefore it's legit, and now he wants it back. [18:19] XRevan86 I wonder if he'll manage to get as annoying as the USSR dissolution deniers. There is quite a bunch of them. [18:19] gustaf I mean, just perusing Wikipedia, he seems to have a point... but the ROK and Japan settled that in 1965 [18:19] sears_hardware i think the part about digital nations is more interesting than some obscure first nations nonsense [18:19] sears_hardware sovcits as gustaf said [18:19] gustaf tell you what, if he manages to unify the Koreas, I'll give him props ;) [18:19] XRevan86 A government with nothing to govern has no point. [18:20] sears_hardware a government is not supposed to be distinct from the citizens [18:20] gustaf also, someone linked this... I'm honestly speechless http://www.manchukuo.net/index33e.htm [18:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.manchukuo.net | Manchukuo Government Official Website [18:20] gustaf sears_hardware: governments in exile during War2? [18:21] sears_hardware idk [18:21] XRevan86 Governments in exile (some still exist, like Belarusian) still want their territory back. [18:21] AdmFubar https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/08/10/desktop-and-all-in-one-arm-linux-computers-launched-with-baikal-m-processor/ [18:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Desktop and All-in-One Arm Linux computers launched with Baikal-M processor - CNX Software [18:21] XRevan86 they're like on hold [18:23] XRevan86 > However, another project i've been contributing to - handshake - created a decentralized blockchain that nobody owns (a sea), and within that sea, I own the name joseon which only I have the private key for. Therefore, joseon has its 'territory' [18:23] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@tpawznpbxurtn.irc) has joined #techrights [18:23] gustaf lol, like Urbit [18:24] XRevan86 A government that governs a blockchain. [18:25] XRevan86 That will definitely end up in Wikipedia one day. [18:25] gustaf to me the funniest is the Bourbons... they had a shot to get back in France but the claimant wanted the tricolor gone [18:27] XRevan86 > But the thing is - this joseon country the weird thing about it: it has treaties with 4 nations [the US, UK, Kingdom of Belgium, and Kingdom of Denmark] [18:27] XRevan86 > These treaties hold language that specifically states: "perpetual friendship"(us) and "permanent friendship"(uk) [18:27] XRevan86 Ariadne: So that's what the perpetual friendship thing is about. [18:28] XRevan86 "Well, this will start a new era of digital nations. This is my hope." why, my man, why [18:28] gustaf lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Karl_Emich_of_Leiningen [18:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Prince Karl Emich of Leiningen - Wikipedia [18:29] XRevan86 What is that nation supposed to bloody do? [18:29] gustaf tax its citizens? [18:29] XRevan86 gustaf: phobos is in danger. [18:30] Ariadne has he actually verified these treaties are still in force lol [18:30] XRevan86 gustaf: schestowitz (IRC.com account) will be thrown into a virtual prison for sharing this. [18:30] XRevan86 > but because of this nation existing and i've run by 3 diff law firms; they are all confident that this argument will hold in whatever courts _attempt_ to apply jurisdiction over it [18:30] XRevan86 Ariadne: He did! [18:32] XRevan86 gustaf: Andrew as a President has a right to conscript his citizens :D [18:32] DaemonFC I basically got so tired that I passed out this morning. Might be the weather. It's been flickering between a 115 heat index and storming. That was one of the nastiest storms I've seen last night. [18:32] XRevan86 first virtual army [18:32] XRevan86 The deserters will be virtually executed. [18:32] DaemonFC It was pulling up trees. Left half the city without power. Comcast was down until a few minutes ago. [18:33] XRevan86 > I want to cause world peace, and I want to cause a massive cash reset. Cryptocurrency/blockchain/etc. may catch a bad rap [18:34] XRevan86 Sounds simple enough: 1. annex freenode; 2. rename to Joseon; 3. ???; 4. world peace [18:34] XRevan86 2.5: blockchain! [18:35] gustaf well he dreams big [18:35] gustaf I'll give him that [18:36] XRevan86 gustaf: yea [18:36] DaemonFC Well, now I know how long Facebook banned Felta. [18:36] XRevan86 He just wants to make an IPO of a cryptocurrency, and that will topple the current world order. [18:36] DaemonFC schestowitz, 14 days. [18:37] DaemonFC He got back and asked "What's an alternative to Facebook that isn't a bunch of partisan stooges?" on his wall. He likes to scream a lot. Nobody really likes his posts. It's kind of sad. [18:39] XRevan86 > [21:15] I think it's easy for people to be good when they are full. [18:39] XRevan86 My observation is the opposite. [18:41] isak he doesn't seem to be an inherently bad guy though, don't think he means anything bad with what he does [18:42] XRevan86 isak: I'm pretty numb to that logic. Adolf Hitler was also a very passionate man. [18:43] XRevan86 And I've heard thousands of "Putin is a well-meaning person" [18:43] XRevan86 What are ye expecting? A cartoon villain? [18:46] XRevan86 > [21:45] thanks for devoting some time to chatting, I can see I can trust you on freenode-related matters, but be aware many will try to undermine you and keep more private to give less 'dirt' away [18:46] XRevan86 "famous last words", " " [18:50] XRevan86 An interesting read. The HIH part is best there. But tainted by the violation of trust. [18:51] XRevan86 We should not have seen it. [18:55] isak luckily it didn't seem to include "super" private things though [18:55] isak or well that is probably relative [18:56] XRevan86 Yea, and the plans have been more or less realised by now. Now we just know that it was super-spontanenous. [18:56] XRevan86 err, that it wasn't [18:57] XRevan86 And what the intentions behind that are. Because the blogpost that rasengan posted is just pure nonsense. [18:57] isak i actually thought joseon.kr was a joke, but i'm not so sure anymore [18:58] XRevan86 isak: See that bridge? It's connected to chat.joseon.kr. It's not a joke. [18:58] XRevan86 freenode is in transition there. [18:58] activelow missed it gustaf , know about what? [18:59] isak XRevan86, yeah, i'm on freenode but thought it was some elaborated joke to alias freenode.net to joseon.kr :) [18:59] isak elaborate* [18:59] gustaf activelow: Reichsburger movement [18:59] XRevan86 isak: It's just your brain tricking you with rationalisation :) [18:59] XRevan86 isak: Ye're trying to find a reasonable explanation to the events that are happening :) ● Aug 11 [19:01] sears_hardware whew [19:01] sears_hardware that's some good drugs he's on [19:01] XRevan86 sears_hardware: It's marijuana. [19:01] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:02] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:02] XRevan86 Feels weird to know the exact answer to that :) [19:03] sears_hardware if that's marijuana i've got to try some [19:03] sears_hardware only where our benevolent overlords deem it is legal of course [19:03] isak say pizza, say no, to drugs, to yes [19:03] XRevan86 sears_hardware: As long as ye're not in a leadership position. [19:05] XRevan86 Wouldn't want another community ruined to build a virtual uh, national park for instance. [19:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.46 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 78.30 swarm size (avg): 274.92 [19:13] XRevan86 Not like a virtual tour of a national park, a national park that is completely virtual. [19:14] XRevan86 all the endangered species are preserved in blockchain [19:14] XRevan86 at least that's one way to implement that, I'm in no way imposing [19:23] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [19:24] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [19:26] DaemonFC These restaurants are still in trouble. You can tell. [19:26] DaemonFC They're slipping big rebates to my credit card, which already has restaurants on a big bonus category. [19:27] DaemonFC We've been going out to use those rebates, but when you go in there's like one person taking care of 15+ tables and half the restaurant is closed and they're actually packing people together in there. [19:34] *cow_2001 (~un@user/cow-2001/x-5712099) has joined #techrights [19:46] MinceR 11 191439 < gustaf> XRevan86: I found the USSR peeps by googling Reichsburger [19:46] MinceR would you like some fries with that? [19:47] *cow_2001 has quit (Quit: cow_2001) [19:53] XRevan86 schestowitz: "iirc, their logo is MIBBIT MIBBIT!" context? [19:59] gustaf lol ● Aug 11 [20:00] MinceR (audio:important) https://youtu.be/4MqK90Aq8bE?t=7 [20:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nuclear-Capable Interceptor Aircraft and Other Dangers of Accepting the Queens Gambit - YouTube [20:04] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:06] sears_hardware MinceR: very capitalist, i look forward to philidor's rebuttal [20:07] MinceR :) [20:14] kingoffrance re: umpires, well nonpareil is also a word and in english dictionaries [20:14] AdmFubar https://www.firstpost.com/health/explainer-what-we-know-about-post-recovery-symptoms-associated-with-long-covid-9878731.html [20:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Explainer: What we know about post-recovery symptoms associated with 'long' COVID-Health News , Firstpost [20:15] kingoffrance i know that because it was used for type sizes i looked up once, also was a 1968 programming language [20:15] MinceR nonpareil is a font size though :> [20:15] kingoffrance ^ [20:15] kingoffrance so is ruby [20:16] kingoffrance pearl? [20:16] MinceR yeah [20:16] MinceR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_point-size_names [20:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Traditional point-size names - Wikipedia [20:17] kingoffrance brilliant, diamond, pearl, ruby, nonpareil 5 pedagogical langauges based on markov algorithms "nonpareil a machine level machine independent language for the study of semantics" from foldoc [20:23] gustaf MinceR: wow, great link, thanks [20:23] gustaf non-ironic :) [20:23] gustaf I love stuff lik this [20:25] gustaf https://twitter.com/js_thrill/status/1424909879794339842 [20:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@js_thrill: New tired/wired just dropped: https://t.co/MJKbEFV4i9 [20:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@js_thrill: New tired/wired just dropped: https://t.co/MJKbEFV4i9 [20:53] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@k43ernh4umhvk.irc) has joined #techrights [20:53] DaemonFC would you like some fries with that? [20:53] DaemonFC No, but some Reichsmayo on the side would be great. [20:54] *psydruid est nonpareil [20:54] MinceR lol [20:56] XRevan86 psydruid ? [20:56] XRevan86 Bad joke, I know %) [20:58] psydruid :) [20:58] AdmFubar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonpareils [20:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Nonpareils - Wikipedia ● Aug 11 [21:04] DaemonFC MinceR, It's weird how things can work out, right? [21:05] DaemonFC Take garbage food products that were designed for depressions, so that people could afford to eat _something_. [21:05] DaemonFC Then they turned into "premium" foods that command one price hike after another. [21:06] DaemonFC I usually keep some low sodium generic (Walmart brand) SPAM in the pantry. [21:06] DaemonFC Then when something calls for ham, I just pull out some of that and use it instead. [21:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.78 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 85.08 swarm size (avg): 274.85 [21:08] MinceR DaemonFC: if it's really garbage, why do you eat it? :> [21:09] DaemonFC I don't know. It's tasty. It's pretty versatile in cooking. [21:09] MinceR sounds like it isn't garbage [21:09] DaemonFC Mom used to go "EWWW!" back in the 90s when I'd ask dad to pick some up at the store for me and she smelled it frying in the kitchen. [21:09] DaemonFC Wouldn't even taste it. [21:09] DaemonFC Then last year with the run on the grocery stores, she went out and bought dozens of cans for herself so they'd have something to eat that kept for a long time. [21:11] DaemonFC I asked her if she had eaten any yet and she said yeah and it wasn't bad. [21:11] DaemonFC It just got a reputation. Which is funny, because it's everywhere in Hawaii, and in Asian countries. [21:11] DaemonFC You go to fine dining restaurants, and they're serving meals with SPAM in them. [21:13] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLih-WQwBSc [21:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Spam stems from Monty Python sketch - YouTube [21:13] MinceR argh, bad link [21:14] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bW4vEo1F4E [21:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Monty Python SPAM - YouTube [21:16] DaemonFC I made a slow cooker breakfast casserole with it the other day. [21:17] DaemonFC SPAM and eggs and hashbrowns mostly. Some red and green bell pepper, green onions, sharp cheddar. [21:17] DaemonFC The Monty Python sketch has her mention spam and eggs and beans. [21:17] DaemonFC Which might be okay, except they'd probably be those British baked beans. [21:18] DaemonFC Just beans and tomato sauce. Terrible. [21:21] DaemonFC MinceR, One part of B5 that makes no sense are the Lurkers in Down Below. [21:21] MinceR i haven't seen B5 [21:21] DaemonFC Why would you jump on a transport heading for a space station where everything costs 4-5 times what it does on Earth and there's a planned economy, looking for "something better"? [21:22] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [21:22] MinceR maybe they, too, believe in planned economy [21:22] MinceR like the "heroic anti-communists" in fideath [21:23] DaemonFC One of the things that they complained about in the earlier episodes was how expensive everything was, and that was the command staff complaining about it. [21:23] DaemonFC And how it was "impossible" to get eggs and bacon (which could soon actually happen in California, because the voters there are stupid). [21:31] DaemonFC MinceR, Planned Economies fall apart for various reasons. [21:32] DaemonFC Such as the people planning them not anticipating actual demand for what the economy produces, or putting inept people into positions to produce it and then not enough gets produced, and black markets appearing for contraband merchandise. [21:32] MinceR it's an unworkable system [21:33] DaemonFC A market economy might overproduce, but there's disincentive for it. Instead of pawning off the losses onto the population as a whole, they have to take the loss and possibly go under for it. [21:33] DaemonFC The US is not a pure market economy, and it should have let many things fail, not the least of which is General Motors. [21:33] DaemonFC But it's better than many. [21:34] phobos/jn and Wells Fargo [21:39] DaemonFC Wells Fargo is in trouble. The government won't go far enough with them but nobody trusts them anymore. [21:47] XRevan86 phobos: Are ye actually staying on Joseon? Why not join us directly? [21:47] XRevan86 phobos: And while I'm at it, did it manage to surpass 1200 people? [21:49] phobos/jn * There are 6 users and 1161 invisible on 13 servers [21:49] phobos/jn * 5 :operator(s) online [21:49] phobos/jn * 264 :unknown connections [21:49] phobos/jn * 5051 :channels formed [21:49] phobos/jn * I have 317 clients and 1 servers [21:49] phobos/jn * Current local users: 317 Max: 318 [21:49] phobos/jn * Current global users: 1167 Max: 1170 [21:50] phobos/jn as of a few seconds ago [21:50] XRevan86 phobos: I only needed the last one, but thanks. [21:50] phobos/jn np [21:54] *antonio (~antonio@5mppyfmfzykfc.irc) has joined #techrights [21:57] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:57] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 11 [22:06] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [22:07] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [22:13] schestowitz it will not grow because you consider 1) how to join [22:13] schestowitz 2) the growth trajectory [22:13] schestowitz 3) lots of empty or almost-empty channels [22:21] phobos/jn Current global users: 1169 Max: 1173 [22:21] XRevan86 two more, amazing [22:21] phobos/jn awesome growth... 2 users in ~30 minutes [22:21] phobos/jn ;) [22:21] schestowitz-TR some of them are bots [22:21] XRevan86 phobos: Could be Ariadne trying to sneak in [22:21] schestowitz-TR like "bridge" [22:22] XRevan86 I think my comment was better. [22:22] schestowitz-TR i am preparing an article about a diploma mill in albania [22:22] schestowitz-TR connected to epo corruption [22:22] phobos/jn maybe it was andrew trying to inflate his user count [22:25] XRevan86 phobos: Or presences for all his juridical entities in the Joseon nation :) [22:25] XRevan86 incorporated with an IRC.com registration [22:27] schestowitz-TR welcome to IRC.com [22:27] schestowitz-TR IRC.com is IRC [22:27] schestowitz-TR IRC is hundreds of thousands [22:28] schestowitz-TR IRC.com is barely a thousand [22:28] schestowitz-TR i.e. less than 1% [22:29] MinceR "millions!" [22:38] MinceR http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=2237 [22:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffn.nodwick.com | Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 03/16/2021 [22:41] schestowitz-TR it's alliiiive, igor [22:44] MinceR "I live... AGAIN!" [22:44] schestowitz-TR well, to Lee's credit [22:44] schestowitz-TR he got people talking about him for a day [22:44] schestowitz-TR but the cost was high [22:45] schestowitz-TR turning 9000 users into just 1000 [22:45] schestowitz-TR when 1000 become 100 nobody will bother to mention [22:45] MinceR are you sure? :> [22:45] XRevan86 schestowitz: I am aware about that it's publicity, but when people are questioning someone's sanity, the "bad PR is still PR" formula doesn't quite work. [22:45] schestowitz-TR going from 100,000 to 10,000? He got tons of press coverage [22:45] schestowitz-TR and blog posts saying leave freenode [22:47] XRevan86 At least not for his line of work. If he were an artist then sure. [22:49] schestowitz-TR ah, I see... [22:49] schestowitz-TR well, not good publicity [22:50] schestowitz-TR yet worse, a liability to OTHER business [22:50] schestowitz-TR notably PIA and shells game [22:50] schestowitz-TR because people can now questions their legitimacy given the sanity of the leader and what he did to freenode [22:50] XRevan86 schestowitz: Yes. [22:50] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:51] schestowitz-TR like, directing all traffic of PIA users in the US through "freedomtech" in the uk [22:51] schestowitz-TR firm with no assets [22:51] schestowitz-TR and not even informing PIA client [22:51] schestowitz-TR which sounds super dodgy [22:51] schestowitz-TR sketchy [22:51] schestowitz-TR he's a sketcher [22:51] XRevan86 He got something in his hands that is a lot like a business and ruined it in three months of management. [22:51] schestowitz-TR making huge change to freenode without clues or advance notice [22:52] schestowitz-TR doing blog posts AFTER breaking things [22:52] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: MISmanagmenet [22:52] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [22:52] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/dodgy-legal-luminary/ [22:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | An EPO Administrative Council Expos Part VI: A Learned Legal Luminary | Techrights [22:52] schestowitz parts 7 and 8 will be longer and better [22:53] schestowitz now we deal with real gangsters [22:53] XRevan86 schestowitz: Yes. So his involvement as a manager is going to negatively impact any venture. [22:53] XRevan86 just from distrust in his abilities [22:53] schestowitz kape likewise [22:53] schestowitz he threw away the name [22:53] schestowitz and become about him [22:53] schestowitz worth checking next kape report [22:53] schestowitz and whether he is still even named there [22:54] schestowitz maybe they too got rid of him [22:54] schestowitz they're a public company [22:54] schestowitz and shareholders might start asking uncomfortable questions [22:54] XRevan86 schestowitz: PIA was making uninvolvement statements even in the early days of the takeover. [22:58] XRevan86 schestowitz: Imperial Family Companies on its website presents both Shells and freenode (still old name). [22:58] XRevan86 It's a bit odd as when I looked at Shells registration, it wasn't mentioned as a subsidiary. ● Aug 11 [23:03] XRevan86 https://xkcd.com/2501/ [23:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Average Familiarity [23:06] schestowitz-TR Shells game [23:07] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.30 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 65.05 swarm size (avg): 274.78 [23:20] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: would be interesting to know [23:20] schestowitz-TR 1) which channels are best atttended at new 'freenode' [23:20] schestowitz-TR 2) which are most active [23:20] schestowitz-TR phobos: can you run the command /list [23:21] schestowitz-TR then sort by number of users [23:21] schestowitz-TR or: [23:21] schestowitz-TR /list --YES [23:21] schestowitz-TR iirc, MinceR has an account there too [23:22] XRevan86 schestowitz: I didn't enable multi-connect on tr-bridge, so I can't exploit it to do more than bridging. [23:22] schestowitz-TR we can even see how many channels in total have users in them [23:22] schestowitz-TR or what % [23:23] DaemonFC https://duckduckgo.com/?q=think+inflation+is+bad+now+let's+take+a+step [23:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-html.duckduckgo.com | think inflation is bad now let's take a step at DuckDuckGo [23:23] schestowitz-TR ddmicrosoft [23:23] DaemonFC NPR blasts out spam articles all over their "affiliates" to tell us to get over the inflation panic. [23:23] DaemonFC It goes on for pages and pages. [23:23] DaemonFC Same article. [23:23] schestowitz-TR NPR, funded by Microsoft and by Gates [23:23] schestowitz-TR two fraudsters [23:24] schestowitz-TR maybe they should lessen savings [23:24] schestowitz-TR and up the inflation [23:24] schestowitz-TR so they can pay the deficit [23:24] XRevan86 schestowitz: Ye can login there too unless ye dropped your account. Setting TLS and SASL up is a good idea in general on a personal level. [23:24] schestowitz-TR and then use that money to bail out oligarchs and tech giants some more [23:24] schestowitz-TR Google now give PAYCUTS to staff working from home [23:25] XRevan86 I don't want to make one. [23:25] schestowitz-TR because, you know, Google is poor [23:25] Ariadne all companies will try that [23:25] Ariadne it is up to employees to refuse it [23:25] schestowitz-TR yes [23:25] schestowitz-TR but google is a large company [23:25] schestowitz-TR so we need to stop them at the tracks [23:25] Ariadne agreed [23:25] schestowitz-TR I hope many employees will sue, class action even [23:25] schestowitz-TR to make a point [23:26] schestowitz-TR people still use Google [23:26] schestowitz-TR amid pandemic [23:26] schestowitz-TR maybe even more than before it all started [23:27] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/meme-diplomatic-mill/ [23:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Diplomatic Mill | Techrights [23:27] schestowitz EPO is becoming a stain on the EU [23:27] schestowitz EU must do something [23:27] schestowitz anything [23:27] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@4xy7jhy95z8gs.irc) has joined #techrights [23:30] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [23:37] schestowitz does anyone know https://predator-os.com/ ? [23:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Predator-OS Linux for pentesting,ethical hacking,secure,privacy [23:37] schestowitz I never saw it before [23:37] schestowitz linuxtoday mentions it [23:38] schestowitz given how new it is to me, you have to wonder if you can trust it [23:38] schestowitz maybe that itself is the honeyport [23:38] schestowitz *pot [23:38] schestowitz and it is not listed by distrowatch either, afaik [23:46] DaemonFC Someone is taking old Gameboy Advance units and upgrading the cases and to a glass screen cover. [23:46] DaemonFC Looks pretty nice. [23:47] activelow schestowitz: some ubuntu with wallpapers and gui theme swapped [23:47] schestowitz-TR you can emulate gameboy [23:47] schestowitz-TR on much better machines with better casing [23:47] schestowitz-TR activelow: ok, so another ubuntu clone [23:48] schestowitz-TR kali and parrot are debian-based, iirc [23:48] activelow waste of time [23:49] schestowitz thanks for checking [23:49] schestowitz we need more independent distros [23:50] schestowitz not recycled or rehashed ones [23:50] schestowitz you could write scripts to create them [23:50] schestowitz this is what figosdev did for spins [23:50] schestowitz I mean, get debian [23:50] schestowitz then run a bunch of commands to swap around settings, fetch software etc [23:50] schestowitz no need for another OSI [23:51] schestowitz rPath and otherd did this [23:51] schestowitz you had an online configurator [23:51] schestowitz you make your own distro [23:51] schestowitz then you download the pre-customed one as ISO [23:51] schestowitz that never quite caught on, others tried as well [23:51] activelow most of the distro circus is scam [23:51] activelow more reviews and testing are required, and for this source-based systems and developers [23:52] schestowitz it's like in the old nintendo days [23:52] Ariadne most of the good parts of rPath got integrated into alpine, at least [23:52] schestowitz buy a 1000-in-1 game collection [23:52] schestowitz than 100 of those games would be the same game with slightly different name or colours [23:52] schestowitz Ariadne: I didn't know this [23:53] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/08/08/the-computer-anybody-can-edit/ [23:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Computer Anybody Can Edit | Techrights [23:54] *tr_guest|1460 (~519aac55@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [23:54] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.113.172) has joined #techrights [23:54] schestowitz there is also suse studio [23:54] schestowitz and several more whose name I forgot by now [23:56] *tr_guest|1460 has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [23:57] schestowitz OSIs 2021 Board Election is Concluded https://opensource.org/2021ElectionConcluded seems like it was compromised again: http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/osi-privacy-issues/ [23:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.org | OSIs 2021 Board Election is Concluded | Open Source Initiative [23:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The OSIs Defunct Elections (Privacy Breach), Conflict of Interest (Nicholson), and Other Lingering Problems | Techrights