●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, September 11, 2022 ●●
● Sep 11
[00:00]	DaemonFC	It's all coming out the back end into some crook's bank account and gets moved to Panama and then they flee the country before anyone figures out what really happened.
[00:00]	DaemonFC	Or they do what places like Celsius have done.
[00:00]	DaemonFC	Commit bankruptcy fraud to keep the creditors from figuring it out for a little while, and then flee the country.
[00:01]	DaemonFC	Mr. "I put $60,000 in Celsius and have $1,000 in my bank account and have my mortgage company breathing down my neck!" doesn't get paid back.
[00:08]	DaemonFC	You had $60,000 worth of boloney, Mister!
[00:08]	DaemonFC	You should have put it in the bank and not some San Francisco nonsense next door to Mr. GULAG.
[00:09]	starstreak	the one thing DaemonFC's website needs is super large text in order to visualize the insanity
[00:09]	DaemonFC	The goal of a Ponzi is that it sounds very reasonable to a person who doesn't understand exactly what the fuck you're talking about.
[00:10]	DaemonFC	And they don't know what you're talking about because it's a bunch of malarkey.
[00:11]	DaemonFC	Crypto "currency" falls nicely in there. MARISOL is very narcissistic and provincial, which is just what they were looking for.
[00:11]	DaemonFC	"I have money! That make me important woman! I sophisticated investor! I deserve more thing!"
[00:12]	DaemonFC	And of course it doesn't. It makes her trash with money.
[00:12]	DaemonFC	She escaped the slums and managed to pass the nursing exam. That alone would be commendable.
[00:12]	DaemonFC	But of course that won't satisfy someone like her.
[00:14]	starstreak	linucks
[00:15]	starstreak	i bet there are many reasons why firefox runs faster than brave
[00:16]	immibis	wait until the global financial system collapses and so does cryptocurrency, but then cryptocurrency is somewhat transferable into the new world order, and dollars aren't
[00:16]	immibis	they're predicting the UK pound sterling will collapse within 12 months or so
[00:16]	immibis	nobody will want pounds
[00:19]	DaemonFC	Crypto pretty much only has any actual value to the extent that it is exchangeable into real money.
[00:19]	DaemonFC	But this is not a guarantee at any particular exchange rate. Not even close.
[00:19]	starstreak	DaemonFC's article about chrome is decent but it doesn't really touch on technical reasons to use firefox
[00:19]	DaemonFC	So you run into the distinct possibility that you'll lose damned near everything with it.
[00:19]	starstreak	of course he uses seamonkey lol
[00:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[00:20]	starstreak	running some lame browser from years ago and wonders why nothing works
[00:20]	DaemonFC	I don't like Firefox either. It's simply less awful than Chrome.
[00:20]	DaemonFC	Most things work, at least after Fedora patches the shit out of it.
[00:20]	DaemonFC	The upstream binaries are a mess.
[00:20]	immibis	DaemonFC: even the ability to exchange real money into real money isn't guaranteed. Best to diversify.
[00:20]	starstreak	I just switched back to firefox and was impressed with the speed of everything
[00:21]	DaemonFC	I tried to direct some of the developers to Fedora's patches that make things quite a lot better and they kind of flailed their arms around as to when or if they'll upstream any of them.
[00:21]	DaemonFC	SeaMonkey is.....a bit stodgy perhaps, but the GUI of these "modern" Internet applications is just horrendous.
[00:22]	DaemonFC	It's not just a "appeals to the least common denominator" problem. It's "Assume that EVERY user will have shit for brains and that this problem should, in fact, be impossible to set straight if that's not true.".
[00:23]	DaemonFC	It's like Apple products.
[00:26]	DaemonFC	Billionaire News: "The Federal Reserve plans to hike interest rates until 6 million people in America who are working lose their jobs because taxing the rich to get inflation under control is unthinkable."
[00:26]	DaemonFC	WGN News: "Here's what kind of grass the football team uses this year."
[00:26]	starstreak	i like macOS
[00:27]	immibis	DaemonFC: two different government departments, mind you. The Fed controls how much money there is, but not where it is. Congress controls where it is.
[00:27]	DaemonFC	Yeah, not even that guy in Chicago that somehow survived nearly half his brain being destroyed with a railrod spike would have recovered and wanted to use a Mac.
[00:27]	DaemonFC	That's where education was in this country back then though. :)
[00:27]	starstreak	sometimes i get my macos fix by hooking up my macbook to an external monitor (internal is dead)
[00:27]	DaemonFC	Now it's herp derp if this thing has more than three buttons I can't use it derp.
[00:28]	DaemonFC	And that's without any physical brain damage, apparently.
[00:28]	DaemonFC	Sad.
[00:28]	starstreak	macos isn't as fast as linux either
[00:28]	DaemonFC	MinceR, ^
[00:31]	starstreak	it seems like everything is slower than linux
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[00:33]	psydruid	lol
[00:33]	DaemonFC	Yeah, it's because they don't care.
[00:33]	psydruid	macOS is also buggy
[00:33]	DaemonFC	If nothing ever broke down, got slower and slower, and stopped running new software for precisely NO REASON AT ALL, you wouldn't buy their latest shit.
[00:34]	starstreak	i need macos to put music on my iphone
[00:34]	DaemonFC	Breaking when it still has that new car smell, yet being out of warranty because it's a battery car and of course it is, is the car industry's wet dream.
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[00:35]	starstreak	or windows/itunes in a vm
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[00:35]	DaemonFC	Now the New York Times writes articles going "Well of course electric cars are shit, and you should stop expecting to drive 300-400 miles on a charge or trying to get the battery above 30% after it's been plugged in for 10 hours.
[00:36]	DaemonFC	"Where do you really need to get to after laying out $140,000 on it anyway?"
[00:36]	immibis	DaemonFC: if you're paying $140k for a car that's a you problem
[00:37]	DaemonFC	I only have to fill up my Buick about once every four weeks or so. That's despite driving it every day. If I want to, I can make it from near Wisconsin to near Kentucky and still have gas left.
[00:37]	DaemonFC	When I need to fill it completely up, it takes less than 3.5 minutes to fill the tank, and I don't have to worry where I'll do it at.
[00:38]	DaemonFC	And there's no $14,000 gas tank they don't make anymore that needs replaced every 5 years.
[00:38]	starstreak	linucks
[00:39]	DaemonFC	It's also not a hybrid, so if someone gets their catalytic converter ripped out and has a $1,900 repair bill before they can pass emissions again, it'll be the Prius parked next to me.
[00:40]	CrystalMath	sometimes i just get "No result." from duckduckgo
[00:40]	DaemonFC	"What's wrong? Don'tcha want to join us all in Hell?" says everyone around me.
[00:40]	DaemonFC	MinceR, ^
[00:40]	CrystalMath	for any input
[00:41]	DaemonFC	Some people who get their catalytic converter stolen, pay the $1,900 to fix it, get it stolen again next week.
[00:41]	DaemonFC	That's what you get for driving a hybrid and painting a target on yourself.
[00:41]	TR News	 (NEW): First Look at Crystal Linux, an Arch Linux-Based Distro Focused on Ease of Use and Usability http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/10/First_Look_at_Crystal_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/10/First_Look_at_Crystal_Linux.gmi 
[00:41]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines First Look at Crystal Linux, an Arch Linux-Based Distro Focused on Ease of Use and Usability
[00:41]	DaemonFC	What do you expect when some idiot with a sawzall can rip it out in 4 minutes and make $650?
[00:41]	DaemonFC	Mine would get them $80-90.
[00:42]	starstreak	DaemonFC, do you really use a microsoft e-mail address?
[00:42]	DaemonFC	Yes,
[00:42]	starstreak	lmao
[00:43]	starstreak	you should switch to protonmail or tutanota
[00:43]	techuser	don't promote evil
[00:43]	DaemonFC	I saw some catalytic converters in the back of a scrapper truck and called it in to the Chicago Police.
[00:43]	techuser	ProtonMail is even worse shit
[00:43]	DaemonFC	They came out and got the guy really fast.
[00:44]	techuser	because they don't allow email clients in free plan, and Tutanota doesn't at all, and also say PGP is bad
[00:44]	techuser	https://danwin1210.de for now
[00:44]	TR Bot	 Daniel - Home
[00:44]	starstreak	i guess i can't talk, i use apple's @me.com address
[00:44]	starstreak	and protonmail
[00:45]	starstreak	and tutanota, i got a lot of accounts spread out there
[00:45]	techuser	they are all evil
[00:45]	starstreak	because javascript?
[00:45]	techuser	because email is done via mail clients and fuck their webmails
[00:46]	starstreak	eww mail clients, they're all terrible
[00:46]	techuser	webmails are terrible
[00:46]	techuser	email is done via standard protocols and deal with it
[00:46]	techuser	stop reinventing standards
[00:46]	starstreak	fair enough
[00:47]	starstreak	i have a gmail account which i use for job search
[00:47]	CrystalMath	i should switch to searx instances
[00:47]	starstreak	<techuser> https://danwin1210.de for now
[00:47]	starstreak	are you matey?
[00:47]	techuser	no
[00:47]	techuser	but matey told me about its existence
[00:47]	starstreak	aha thats how you discovered it
[00:48]	techuser	there was cock.li until it got fucked up
[00:48]	starstreak	i use my apple mail account for most stuff and I use that with evolution as my mail client, i like the way it handles mbox format import/export
[00:48]	MinceR	11 013421 < starstreak> i need macos to put music on my iphone
[00:48]	MinceR	lol
[00:49]	TR News	Kushal Das: khata, under WASI https://kushaldas.in/posts/khata-under-wasi.html
[00:49]	TR Bot	 khata, under WASI
[00:49]	starstreak	MinceR, i could use windows and itunes
[00:49]	CrystalMath	switch complete
[00:49]	techuser	iPhone seems to be malicious device
[00:49]	starstreak	libimobile device doesnt seem to work with my iphone at syncing music
[00:49]	techuser	but then they will bring all the shit to PCs anyway
[00:49]	MinceR	11 012756 < DaemonFC> Now it's herp derp if this thing has more than three buttons I can't use it derp.
[00:49]	CrystalMath	wow searx is awesome
[00:49]	starstreak	my next phone will be a pinephone pro
[00:49]	MinceR	actually their focus groups had problems with 2 buttons
[00:50]	MinceR	tells you a thing or two about what sort of audience they're aiming for
[00:50]	techuser	hope it doesn't get fucked up in the near futur
[00:50]	techuser	*future
[00:50]	MinceR	11 014911 < starstreak> MinceR, i could use windows and itunes
[00:50]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Yet Apple was one of the promoters of Semantic HTML.
[00:50]	MinceR	or you could use a mobile device that doesn't completely suck
[00:50]	starstreak	yeah that too
[00:50]	DaemonFC	Makes you wonder if they do this so they can fuck with smart people who end up breaking down and using a Mac as a development box.
[00:50]	TR News	How To Install SmartGit on Fedora 36 - idroot https://idroot.us/install-smartgit-fedora-36 Source: ID Root | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//idroot.us/install-smartgit-fedora-36
[00:50]	TR Bot	 How To Install SmartGit on Fedora 36 - idroot
[00:51]	techuser	MinceR: they all eventually suck in some regards
[00:51]	MinceR	just not quite that much
[00:51]	MinceR	at least not yet
[00:51]	MinceR	android is getting worse, but it still lets you manage files
[00:51]	TR News	"A small and simple sound and music player that is well integrated with GNOME. Amberol aspires to be as small, unintrusive, and simple as possible." https://sparkylinux.org/amberol/
[00:51]	TR Bot	 Amberol SparkyLinux
[00:52]	starstreak	pinephone pro has real linux
[00:52]	starstreak	android is garbage
[00:52]	MinceR	so does non-pro
[00:52]	MinceR	and non-pro has less shitty boot firmware
[00:52]	techuser	computers are garbage eventually
[00:52]	techuser	people let corporations to fuck them up
[00:52]	starstreak	the non pro is slow and doesn't have much ram
[00:52]	MinceR	but still, none of the OS-es available for pinephones appear to be very usable
[00:53]	techuser	our computers are more powerful than supercomputers of the past, and our software is complete shit
[00:54]	starstreak	im quite happy with gnome
[00:54]	techuser	you shouldn't be
[00:54]	starstreak	why not
[00:54]	starstreak	i came from 8 years of macOS
[00:55]	techuser	GNOME 3 did stupid redesign so people got upset and created MATE
[00:55]	starstreak	mate is kinda cool but i prefer gnome 3
[00:55]	techuser	and also Xfce and LXDE claim to be "lightweight", then GNOME/KDE/some others must be "heavy"
[00:55]	techuser	programmers need to be forced to work on resource-limited computers
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[00:56]	techuser	hi
[00:56]	TR News	 (NEW): The 8 Best Lightweight Linux Distributions With Openbox Window Manager http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/10/The_8_Best_Lightweight_Linux_Distributions_With_Openbox_Window_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/10/The_8_Best_Lightweight_Linux_Distributions_With_Openbox_Window_.gmi 
[00:56]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines The 8 Best Lightweight Linux Distributions With Openbox Window Manager
[00:56]	MinceR	gnome 2 was already trash
[00:56]	MinceR	and gnome 3 is even worse
[00:56]	schestowitz[TR]	hi highest_cubist_thrills 
[00:56]	techuser	going to sleep now, see you tomorrow
[00:56]	schestowitz[TR]	0/
[00:56]	starstreak	some people didn't like kde's direction either and made Trinity Desktop
[00:57]	schestowitz[TR]	TDE
[00:57]	MinceR	but hey, you can enjoy gnome "printer settings are confusing users" 2 in the form of at least one fork
[00:57]	MinceR	or should i say "the presence of settings for printing is confusing users"
[00:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	what even are printer settings
[00:58]	schestowitz[TR]	Linux Torvalds: you are interface nazis
[00:58]	schestowitz[TR]	loner: thank you!
[00:58]	schestowitz[TR]	*Linus
[00:58]	starstreak	i liked that you can run freebsd with mate in 384MB of ram, but i have 16GB so it isn't really a problem for me that gnome uses a lot of ram
[00:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 36.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 149.81
[00:59]	starstreak	i still have the 9.1GB that stable diffusion needs to generate art
● Sep 11
[01:00]	starstreak	i have programs that use more ram than gnome-shell
[01:00]	TR News	Debunking 7 Myths About Immutable Linux Distros - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=SgDw5aCEkrs | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/SgDw5aCEkrs
[01:00]	TR Bot	 Debunking 7 Myths About Immutable Linux Distros - Invidious
[01:00]	starstreak	discord and keybase use quite a bit
[01:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	there is no such thing as gnome-shell
[01:02]	TR News	"Internet censorship is going to continue to grow, the threshold for being "harmful and or dangerous" will continue to lower." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=w6a1WG9Kp0o
[01:02]	TR Bot	 Oh No, My Favorite Websites Got SHUT DOWN (again) - Invidious
[01:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	gnome-shell itself is like "a borg" or the little dot of mould on the surface of 2-week-old bread
[01:02]	TR News	GTA Online - The Casual Criminals ep1 // Linux - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=uW4yYUEDgbs | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/uW4yYUEDgbs
[01:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	iceberg to titanic: "just the tip?"
[01:02]	TR Bot	 GTA Online - The Casual Criminals ep1 // Linux - Invidious
[01:03]	MinceR	fvwm uses a little more than 9 MB, apparently
[01:03]	MinceR	icewm can probably get by with something similar
[01:03]	starstreak	icewm would be better
[01:04]	starstreak	fvwm95 is kinda nice too
[01:04]	MinceR	i only run icewm if i don't have time to set up fvwm
[01:04]	starstreak	you use fvwm?
[01:04]	starstreak	thats pretty impressive
[01:04]	starstreak	no wonder you think gnome is bloated
[01:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	or that russia is big
[01:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	whats a few orders of magnitude between friends
[01:06]	TR News	tinyML device monitors packages for damage while in transit | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/10/this-tinyml-device-monitors-packages-for-damage-while-in-transit/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/10/this-tinyml-device-monitors-packages-for-damage-while-in-transit/
[01:06]	TR Bot	 tinyML device monitors packages for damage while in transit | Arduino Blog
[01:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean russia may be sort of big, but then, theres the sun
[01:06]	MinceR	yes, i do use fvwm
[01:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	so when you really get down to it, or even if you just want to prove something straightforwardly so isnt so
[01:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	russia isnt really big at all
[01:07]	starstreak	i was a fan of fvwm95 and icewm
[01:07]	starstreak	that shit was old school
[01:08]	MinceR	highest_cubist_thrills: "Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space."
[01:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	also known as pu pu fallacy
[01:09]	MinceR	dey eat da poopoo?
[01:09]	starstreak	MinceR, its pretty impressive that you use fvwm, i find its a bit hard
[01:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	Ningi, a triangular rubber coin six thousand eight hundred miles along each side, from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. It is valued at the rate of eight Ningis to one Triganic Pu, but thanks to the Ningi's immense size (almost twice as wide as the Earth's equatorial radius), it is more-or-less impossible to collect enough to own one pu.
[01:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	a triganic pu isnt big either-- i mean
[01:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	if you think a triganic pu is big, then theres gnome-shell
[01:10]	starstreak	the first thing i did when i installed openbsd was get xfce4
[01:10]	TR News	 (NEW): Don't use Google Chrome. Bonus: Microsoft Azure Clown Computing http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Don_t_use_Google_Chrome_Bonus_Microsoft_Azure_Clown_Computing.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Don_t_use_Google_Chrome_Bonus_Microsoft_Azure_Clown_Computing.gmi 
[01:10]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Don't use Google Chrome. Bonus: Microsoft Azure Clown Computing
[01:11]	starstreak	my favourite e-mail clients are evolution and claws-mail
[01:11]	MinceR	the thing that was hard about it was figuring out how i want to configure it and writing a configuration
[01:11]	MinceR	but there's a pretty good guide for that
[01:11]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/today_s_howtos.gmi 
[01:11]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[01:12]	MinceR	11 021024 < highest_cubist_thrills> if you think a triganic pu is big, then theres gnome-shell
[01:12]	MinceR	lol
[01:14]	TR News	 (NEW): Videos: Immutable Linux Distros, GTA Online - The Casual Criminals, and Web Censorship http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Videos_Immutable_Linux_Distros_GTA_Online_The_Casual_Criminals_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Videos_Immutable_Linux_Distros_GTA_Online_The_Casual_Criminals_.gmi 
[01:14]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Videos: Immutable Linux Distros, GTA Online - The Casual Criminals, and Web Censorship
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[01:16]	TR News	Parallelizing Programs on the Blockchain https://matt-rickard.com/parallelizing-programs-on-the-blockchain
[01:16]	TR Bot	 Parallelizing Programs on the Blockchain
[01:17]	TR News	"As a software developer, I never was a true sysadmin." https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/cosplaying-sysadmin
[01:17]	TR Bot	 Cosplaying as a Sysadmin | Jeff Geerling
[01:18]	TR News	"Randomness can be difficult to simulate because we are biased. Not that thinking of buying your spouse flowers is a bad thing. What if you can preserve that idea and actualization by coding that! But how?" https://www.kenkoonwong.com/blog/flower-algo/
[01:18]	TR Bot	 Purchase Flower For Just Because Occasion. How `R` you doing it? | Everyday Is A School Day
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[01:19]	TR News	Version controlling your .Rprofile, .gitconfig and other dotfiles. | Dr. Rick Tankard https://tankard.id/post/version-controlling-your-rprofile-gitconfig-and-other-dot-files/ Source: Dr. Rick Tankard | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//tankard.id/post/version-controlling-your-rprofile-gitconfig-and-other-dot-files/
[01:19]	TR Bot	 Version controlling your .Rprofile, .gitconfig and other dotfiles. | Dr. Rick Tankard
[01:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[01:20]	TR News	"I use a CDN for all the static images on my blog, such as the conversation snippet images and the AI generated "hero" images. This CDN is set up to be a caching layer on top of Backblaze B2, an object storage thing for the cloud." https://xeiaso.net/blog/xedn
[01:20]	TR Bot	 Announcing the glorious advent of XeDN - Xe
[01:21]	TR News	"I agree with Zitron and Lewis that we have an unhealthy tendency to take credit for our own success. But pushing against that too hard may lead to a mindset that nothing we do makes any difference we're just a victim of circumstances which leads to apathy and irresponsibility." https://robert.ocallahan.org/2022/09/success-privilege-and-god.html
[01:21]	TR Bot	 Eyes Above The Waves: Success, Privilege And God
[01:24]	TR News	"Well, this is rather easy for me to talk about, Ill be on X.orgs Developers Conference soon, and full of motivations behind the work Ive done." https://crosscat.me/gsoc-22-final-report/
[01:24]	TR Bot	 GSoC '22 final report
[01:24]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D350.jpg
[01:24]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D698.jpg
[01:26]	TR News	Confession (Penance) gemini://leetaur.com/gemlog/entries/2022-07-02.gmi
[01:26]	TR News	The trouble with trantor's threading design The trouble with trantor's threading design
[01:28]	TR News	Today is 9/11. RMS will soon mark the day US toppled Chilean democracy. https://stallman.org/
[01:28]	TR Bot	 Richard Stallman's Personal Page
[01:29]	TR News	Update: oledump.py Version 0.0.70 https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/09/04/update-oledump-py-version-0-0-70/
[01:29]	TR Bot	 Update: oledump.py Version 0.0.70 | Didier Stevens
[01:30]	TR News	'I'm Going to Kill You': Man With Gun Arrested at Pramila Jayapal's Home https://www.newsweek.com/going-kill-you-man-gun-arrested-pramila-jayapal-home-1723989 Source: Newsweek | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.newsweek.com/going-kill-you-man-gun-arrested-pramila-jayapal-home-1723989
[01:30]	TR Bot	 'I'm Going to Kill You': Man With Gun Arrested at Pramila Jayapal's Home
[01:31]	TR News	Dont worry, soon well announce the new PM https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/09/05/dont-worry-soon-well-announce-the-new-pm/
[01:31]	TR Bot	 Dont worry, soon well announce the new PM neritam
[01:31]	TR News	"WebAssembly (WASM) modules have no conception of the filesystem, the network, or much else outside the browser sandbox. Many are experimenting with using the format outside the browser for server-side applications. How can it be used both serverside and clientside?" https://matt-rickard.com/wasi-vs-wasm
[01:31]	TR Bot	 WASI vs. WASM
[01:33]	TR News	The Challenges of IoT, TLS, and Random Number Generators in the Real World https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3546933
[01:33]	TR Bot	 The Challenges of IoT, TLS, and Random Number Generators in the Real World - ACM Queue
[01:33]	TR News	"A small update for my translate.py program." https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/09/05/update-translate-py-version-2-5-12/
[01:33]	TR Bot	 Update: translate.py Version 2.5.12 | Didier Stevens
[01:34]	TR News	"Hey all, this is my RustConf 2022 for 2022! I'm super excited to finally be able to share this page publicly. Enjoy the talk! I've included a video of it, my script and slides embedded below and finally a link to the slides PDF at the bottom of the page. Choose how you want to enjoy this talk. All the options are vaild." https://xeiaso.net/talks/rustconf-2022-sheer-terror-pam
[01:34]	TR Bot	 The Sheer Terror of PAM - Xe
[01:35]	TR News	Getting Familiar with the R Studio Source Pane | by Trevor French | Trevor French | Sep, 2022 | Medium https://medium.com/trevor-french/getting-familiar-with-the-r-studio-source-pane-47a8054688
[01:35]	TR Bot	Familiar with the R Studio Source Pane | by Trevor French | Trevor French | Sep, 2022 | Medium
[01:37]	TR News	"I'm currently staying in a Best Western hotel in Eureka, CA, avoiding the Bay Area heat wave, and I noticed something remarkable: the hotel's free WiFi network performs automatic man-in-the-middle interception of all SSH traffic. I've literally never seen this before on public WiFi Check it out" https://www.roguelazer.com/2022/09/ssh-mitm-at-best-western/
[01:37]	TR Bot	website: SSH MITM at Best Western
[01:38]	TR News	Tapped out: underclass left behind in Australias cashless future https://michaelwest.com.au/tapped-out-underclass-left-behind-in-australias-cashless-future/ Source: Michael West Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/tapped-out-underclass-left-behind-in-australias-cashless-future/
[01:38]	TR Bot	 Tapped out: underclass left behind in Australia's cashless future
[01:40]	TR News	"Defragmentation isnt necessary if youre on an SSD, and if anything could add to wear without benefit. But I do miss those animations." https://rubenerd.com/weird-al-had-100-gb-of-ram/
[01:40]	TR Bot	Weird Al had 100 gigs of RAM
[01:41]	TR News	People think LG is South Korean and many assume it's made/assembled in China. But that's outdated information. For "cost-saving" they now even manufacture in Egypt. This is capitalism + globalisation. Products die sooner.
[01:42]	TR News	NixOS Bento: new reporting feature https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-09-05-managing-a-fleet-of-nixos-part4.html
[01:42]	TR Bot	 Solene'% : NixOS Bento: new reporting feature
[01:43]	TR News	Exploring OMPR with HiGHS solver https://www.notesofdabbler.com/posts/post_2022_09_05/index.html
[01:43]	TR Bot	 Notes of a Dabbler - Exploring OMPR with HiGHS solver
[01:44]	TR News	Oh, I'm sure its probably nothing | Emily Riederer https://emilyriederer.netlify.app/post/nulls-polyglot/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//emilyriederer.netlify.app/post/nulls-polyglot/
[01:44]	TR Bot	 Oh, I'm sure it's probably nothing | Emily Riederer
[01:53]	TR News	UPDATED (re Debian 10+11) https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/10/New_Builds_of_Debian_11_and_Debian_10.shtml
[01:53]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines New Builds of Debian 11 and Debian 10 (UPDATED)
[01:55]	XRevan86	https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1568630743185620994
[01:55]	TR Bot	Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Watch top propagandist get tangled up in Russia's own lies: he demands revenge for Ukraine sinking the warship Moskva, claiming not to remember the name of the shipeven though it was the flagship of the Russian Navybecause Russia's Defense Ministry gave a different explanation."|nitter.it
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[01:55]	XRevan86	https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1568727504805937152
[01:55]	TR Bot	Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "On state TV, Zakhar Prilepin talks about some of Russia's miscalculations during its invasion of Ukraine, including the Kremlin's assumption that it would be welcomed by Ukrainians. Prilepin also tells the audience that they're constitutionally obligated to support Russia's wars."|nitter.it
[01:55]	XRevan86	https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1568748943567110152
[01:55]	TR Bot	Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "On Russian state TV, Rodion Miroshnik, the so-called "Ambassador" of LPR Russia's faux "Republic" in occupied Ukraineclaims that Ukraine no longer exists. He says that what used to be Ukraine is now just an English-speaking tribe, full of foreigners, fighting against Russia."|nitter.it
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[02:01]	TR News	10th wedding anniversary in 8 days, Techrights turns 16 in 8 weeks.
[02:02]	TR News	Royal Favours: pipe and slippers time for David Hurley and Scott Morrison - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/royal-favours-pipe-and-slippers-time-for-david-hurley-and-scott-morrison/ Source: Michael West Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/royal-favours-pipe-and-slippers-time-for-david-hurley-and-scott-morrison/
[02:02]	TR Bot	 Royal Favours: pipe and slippers time for David Hurley and Scott Morrison - Michael West
[02:03]	TR News	"Severe labour shortages and poor pay for carers have left the childcare sector in crisis. One childhood operator, John Owens, has written to Premier Dominic Perrottet to tell him he will join tomorrows Early Childhood rally. Whats the scam?" https://michaelwest.com.au/childcare-owner-to-join-early-childhood-strike-amid-staff-crisis/
[02:03]	TR Bot	 Childcare owner to join Early Childhood Strike amid staff crisis - Michael West
[02:03]	TR News	NixOS Bento: now able to compare local and remote NixOS version https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-09-06-managing-a-fleet-of-nixos-part5.html
[02:04]	TR Bot	 Solene'% : NixOS Bento: now able to compare local and remote NixOS version
[02:04]	TR News	GNU/Linux? https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3d7f60a9-9d8c-4d84-8dcf-cba9908ba621_720x717.jpeg
[02:05]	TR News	It runs https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8069a6c8-796e-4584-81b8-695678e003f3_406x679.jpeg
[02:06]	TR News	Back end https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0501b6f6-df32-4256-a5ef-ae4cbeeef355_720x681.jpeg
[02:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	free software is like the soviet union
[02:09]	XRevan86	Both has two words in their name.
[02:09]	XRevan86	But also four words in the extended name.
[02:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	a lot of people liked it,  but the west lied about how many
[02:09]	XRevan86	FOSS and USSR. Likeness confirmed.
[02:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	it was invaded by germans, but still managed to exist for a while longer
[02:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	and it no longer exists
[02:09]	XRevan86	Also both have "SS" in the name.
[02:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	free software doesnt have ss in the name
[02:10]	XRevan86	FOSS and USSR do.
[02:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	foss is even more like the ussr
[02:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	it has gulags and propaganda and killed off all the real revolutionaries
[02:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	plus like you said, it has "ss" in it
[02:11]	XRevan86	Who's the Trotsky of FOSS?
[02:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	that would be telling
[02:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	but i know who 
[02:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	actually, i only have half an answer
[02:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	i can tell you who is half of the trotsky of foss
[02:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	but that wouldnt actually answer your question
[02:12]	DaemonFC	General Patton was destroyed by politicians for nailing it about the Russians.
[02:12]	DaemonFC	Should have ganged up on them while we were in Europe anyway.
[02:12]	DaemonFC	Driven them out.
[02:13]	DaemonFC	A lot of unpleasantness could have been avoided.
[02:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	foccc
[02:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	free openly compromised computer code
[02:14]	DaemonFC	The worst and most inefficient parts of the US economy are either state-owned, state-chartered, or heavily state-regulated.
[02:15]	DaemonFC	The Roosevelts were basically Communists in all of the worst ways and the worst of it survived to this day.
[02:16]	schestowitz[TR]	Communists is a dog whistle
[02:16]	schestowitz[TR]	use more useful term
[02:16]	DaemonFC	With that being said, Truman was a lot worse.
[02:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	no one said communists
[02:16]	schestowitz[TR]	US is not "Communists"
[02:16]	starstreak	I'm a communist btw
[02:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	literally no one used the word
[02:16]	schestowitz[TR]	what happens in the US can be described mroe clearly
[02:16]	DaemonFC	I'm skeptical about whether the US would have used nuclear weapons on Japan had Roosevelt not died when he did.
[02:16]	schestowitz[TR]	in class terms
[02:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	what kind of communist
[02:16]	schestowitz[TR]	and passage of capital
[02:17]	starstreak	actually i'd have to say im more of an ansoc than a commie
[02:17]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], A lot of it is Communist in the sense that most Communist states use that term.
[02:17]	DaemonFC	State planning of large parts of the economy = disaster.
[02:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	at least youre honest
[02:17]	schestowitz[TR]	that's not what communism is
[02:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	in ansoc russia, bread conquors you
[02:18]	schestowitz[TR]	it might be a side effect
[02:18]	schestowitz[TR]	the US sold itself
[02:18]	schestowitz[TR]	to few people
[02:18]	DaemonFC	Much of the Libertarian platform is correct.
[02:18]	schestowitz[TR]	it's not the state owning everything
[02:18]	DaemonFC	State subsidies into the economy and over-regulation cause most of our economic problems.
[02:18]	starstreak	DaemonFC voted for Ron Paul
[02:18]	schestowitz[TR]	United States of Waltons ~= Communism
[02:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	i would like ansoc if it started accomplishing what its supposed to, stopped failing horribly and stopped making ticky tacky little cults left and right
[02:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	no sarcasm.
[02:19]	DaemonFC	I don't think the Federal Reserve should exist as it is.
[02:19]	DaemonFC	It's caused wat more economic harm than was even possible during the Free Banking Era.
[02:20]	schestowitz[TR]	Federal Reserve =capitalism
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[02:20]	starstreak	why hate on ansoc
[02:20]	schestowitz[TR]	don't   try to sound like a low-grade meme
[02:20]	schestowitz[TR]	it's not communism ruining the US enconomy
[02:20]	DaemonFC	At least with the market making the decisions on investment and "take it or leave it" interest rates, things get way less screwed up than the Fed keeping benchmark rates at zero by subsidizing stock buybacks and federal overspending.
[02:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	almost exclusively for the reasons just stated
[02:21]	DaemonFC	Moreover, screwing up the housing market.
[02:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean, there are still worse things
[02:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	for example, tankies
[02:21]	DaemonFC	With up up and away housing prices that are only possible due to low interest rates.
[02:21]	DaemonFC	Which are entirely fake and unsustainable.
[02:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	but if you put ansocs in charge, tankies wont be far behind
[02:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	i realise the entire notion of "ansocs in charge" is amusing
[02:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	but that is what happens...
[02:22]	DaemonFC	The Fed has locked an entire generation, now two, out of home ownership, unless they inherit a house that happens to be paid off.
[02:22]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, what are you if you aren't an ansoc or tankie
[02:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	then hopefully youre not a capitalist either
[02:22]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz[TR]> it's not communism ruining the US enconomy
[02:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	i read that wrong
[02:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	i read "what  if you aren't an ansoc or tankie"
[02:22]	DaemonFC	starstreak didn't understand me when I said why I wanted perverse incentives for single mothers to end.
[02:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	but you asked something else
[02:23]	DaemonFC	It creates a no punishment environment for bad behavior that leads to rampant crime and social rot.
[02:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	there are a few, no
[02:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	it was the marxists that coined "tankie:
[02:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	to refer to the stalinists
[02:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	then there are a variety of those
[02:23]	DaemonFC	Most people, without the subsidies, would look at how much worse off they're getting each time they reproduce and STOP after 1-2.
[02:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	its like that scene with cheech marin where he talks about how they have every kind of commie
[02:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	except he didnt say commie
[02:24]	DaemonFC	It's the comfort of knowing that all they have to do is run down to the welfare office and say they've gotten pregnant again that makes crime in Chicago so bad.
[02:24]	DaemonFC	Because it leads to generational poverty on steroids.
[02:25]	DaemonFC	When you subsidize something you get more of it. We subsidize illegitimate bastard children who pick up a gun and carjack people at age 8, and we....get a lot more of it.
[02:25]	DaemonFC	And I won't apologize for that because it's factually correct.
[02:26]	DaemonFC	Barely old enough to touch the gas pedal with their foot and they're out there with a Glock ordering people out of their car and making off with it.
[02:26]	DaemonFC	When the police catch the kid, what can they do? Nothing. That's why gangs recruit them that young!
[02:27]	DaemonFC	And they have the Glock of course because the FOID act stopped them from getting the oh wait shit, it didn't stop anything.
[02:27]	DaemonFC	Leftist FAIL
[02:28]	DaemonFC	The fact that the government subsidizes moral decay and then passes gun laws that only send good people who never meant any harm anyway to prison while Thugnificent is running around terrorizing Waukegan with an Uzi may have been lost on a lot of Democrats.
[02:28]	DaemonFC	But not on me.
[02:29]	DaemonFC	YOU CAN HAVE MY GUN, WHEN YOU PRY IT OUT OF MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!
[02:29]	DaemonFC	And the only reason I don't have bumper stickers on my car is because those are police magnets.
[02:29]	DaemonFC	What do you think happens to people who have pro-gun bumper stickers when they get pulled over, in Illinois?
[02:30]	DaemonFC	The cop starts either asking about guns or gets psyched up to just go ahead and shoot.
[02:30]	DaemonFC	It's a really bad idea.
[02:30]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: can you check e for grammar/typos?
[02:30]	DaemonFC	Yeah.
[02:30]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2022/09/10/25-for-techdirt/
[02:30]	TR Bot	 On the World Wide Web, 25 Years is an Eternity | Techrights
[02:31]	DaemonFC	We need to cut the support out from reproduction.
[02:31]	DaemonFC	Refocus it on people who are already here and need the help.
[02:31]	DaemonFC	We have way too many of those.
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[02:32]	DaemonFC	We have too many adults who can't eat, have no choice except to either commit suicide or do something to go to jail so they'll at least get fed.
[02:32]	DaemonFC	This is terrible.
[02:33]	DaemonFC	"While working on the new em>Tux Machines"
[02:34]	DaemonFC	That looks like you stopped in the middle of a sentence and then did something else.
[02:34]	schestowitz[TR]	thanks, fixing
[02:35]	DaemonFC	" capable or running Techrights"
[02:35]	DaemonFC	capable of?
[02:35]	DaemonFC	XRevan86, I assume you've seen Red Dawn (1984).
[02:36]	XRevan86	DaemonFC: That assumption is correct.
[02:36]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: thanks!
[02:36]	DaemonFC	The guy has the "You can have my gun when you pry it out of my cold, dead hands." bumper sticker and the Russian paratrooper pries it out of his cold, dead hand.
[02:36]	DaemonFC	I saw that when I was like 6 and thought it was funnier than hell.
[02:37]	DaemonFC	Horrible movie, but a cult classic because of the red scare nonsense.
[02:37]	DaemonFC	Even in Ukraine, most of the cold, dead hands that guns are being pried out of are Russian ones.
[02:38]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Reddit has gotten nastier.
[02:38]	schestowitz[TR]	conde nasty:)
[02:38]	schestowitz[TR]	it's in the NAME
[02:38]	DaemonFC	For some reason, they've made it so the text entry box on Old Reddit has completely disappeared on me in some cases.
[02:38]	DaemonFC	On entire subreddits.
[02:39]	DaemonFC	I'm wondering if they're planning to make it impossible to post using Old Reddit.
[02:39]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2014/05/28/conde-nast-now-a-microsoft-tool/
[02:39]	TR Bot	 Wired Under New Management (Cond Nast) is a Microsoft and Bill Gates Grooming Operation | Techrights
[02:39]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2015/05/28/reddit-censorship/
[02:39]	TR Bot	 Censorship on Reddit Has Gotten (Cond) Nasty and Silent, Even Actively Silenced | Techrights
[02:39]	XRevan86	"That assumption is correct." <- Oops, I mean *not* correct %).
[02:39]	schestowitz[TR]	some people online said they had covered up pedophile rings
[02:39]	XRevan86	Why would I see that film?
[02:39]	schestowitz[TR]	like epstein
[02:39]	schestowitz[TR]	and could produce proof
[02:39]	schestowitz[TR]	I'm not familar with reddit
[02:39]	schestowitz[TR]	so cannot verify except link
[02:40]	schestowitz[TR]	but it does seem like a truly nasty censorship mill
[02:40]	schestowitz[TR]	they pretend to be "community"
[02:40]	schestowitz[TR]	but it is all herded, censored, moderated by suits
[02:40]	DaemonFC	I don't know. The whole "USSR invades America" campiness of it.
[02:40]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2020/07/13/reddit-bans-again/
[02:40]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Has Put the String 0xBIGBOOBS Inside Linux (Kernel Driver for Microsofts Windows-Only Proprietary Software, Formerly a GPL Violation); Reddit (Cond Nast) Bans You For Mentioning Such Things | Techrights
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[02:40]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, September 10, 2022
[02:41]	XRevan86	DaemonFC: Mars Attacks looks more plausible.
[02:41]	DaemonFC	The United States government basically collapses (in the movie) within months of the invasion. For some reason, we had all of this military shit laying around and nothing that would shoot their planes down before they got to Colorado.
[02:41]	DaemonFC	Now some teenagers are going to kill all of them!
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[02:41]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, September 10, 2022
[02:42]	DaemonFC	The movie sort of glosses over this. They assume basically (it's in the plot, but briefly alluded to) that the USSR was so successful because they got an Axis of Shithole Countries to help them out.
[02:42]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-100922.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-100922.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-100922.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-100922.txt
[02:42]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, September 10, 2022
[02:43]	XRevan86	The Iran drones really make a difference, yes (no).
[02:43]	DaemonFC	Putin does have an Axis of Shithole Countries helping him out and he's still losing.
[02:43]	XRevan86	It's not quite helping, more like "helping".
[02:43]	TR News	Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-100922.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-100922.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-100922.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-100922.txt
[02:43]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, September 10, 2022
[02:44]	XRevan86	Maybe the DPRK ammunition will make a difference (doubt it).
[02:44]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz[TR]> but it is all herded, censored, moderated by suits
[02:44]	DaemonFC	Reddit throws in some porn that it knows is probably underage and just doesn't ask questions about to lure people to the site.
[02:45]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe a honeypot
[02:45]	schestowitz[TR]	but who knows..
[02:45]	schestowitz[TR]	like I said, I know little about what's in reddit
[02:45]	schestowitz[TR]	for several months I used their RSS feed for /Linux
[02:45]	schestowitz[TR]	then they turned proprietary
[02:45]	schestowitz[TR]	and quality sank
[02:45]	schestowitz[TR]	very bad s/n ratio
[02:45]	schestowitz[TR]	I deleted everything I had in RSS
[02:45]	XRevan86	DaemonFC: Turns out, shithole countries have nothing of value to offer.
[02:46]	XRevan86	Strange how that works.
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[02:46]	schestowitz[TR]	on average, XRevan86, those countries (I think) are happier than people in the countries that use that term
[02:47]	schestowitz[TR]	happiness has more than wealth to it
[02:47]	schestowitz[TR]	and US culture died decades ago
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[02:47]	schestowitz[TR]	now Us culture has nothing to it except consumerism cattle with maxed up credit cards (debt)
[02:48]	schestowitz[TR]	on proxac oir something
[02:48]	schestowitz[TR]	I mean, how ELSE can you sleep at night\?
[02:48]	DaemonFC	Bankruptcy court!
[02:48]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz[TR]> and US culture died decades ago
[02:48]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], That's sort of why I don't associate with many people.
[02:48]	DaemonFC	We have nothing in common.
[02:48]	schestowitz[TR]	smart move, I think
[02:48]	XRevan86	schestowitz: The countries I have in mind are: Iran, Afghanistan/Taliban, DPRK, Turkmenistan, Burma/Myanmar, ~Hungary
[02:48]	schestowitz[TR]	my sister complains about how people are
[02:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	"and US culture died decades ago" a string of words without meaning
[02:48]	schestowitz[TR]	not even phoninh back
[02:49]	schestowitz[TR]	*phoninh
[02:49]	XRevan86	Belarus, ~Kazakhstan
[02:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	culture exists everywhere
[02:49]	schestowitz[TR]	yeah, sort of
[02:49]	DaemonFC	I would hook up with people 18-well, maybe a few years older than me.
[02:49]	schestowitz[TR]	but look at cohesion
[02:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	it is absolutely suppressed in some places
[02:49]	DaemonFC	Things are just impossible.
[02:49]	schestowitz[TR]	US is now an island of "red" and "blue"
[02:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	no, it is not
[02:49]	schestowitz[TR]	and those two became islands to each other
[02:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	us media is 
[02:49]	schestowitz[TR]	yeah
[02:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	if that is what you believe the us is
[02:50]	schestowitz[TR]	it's part of it
[02:50]	DaemonFC	The dating material is at least my age or older, what little there was of it. The bait for drama that can't do simple math and yet thinks very highly of itself is everyone younger than you.
[02:50]	DaemonFC	So it's pick your poison.
[02:50]	XRevan86	Russia is like that too I suppose, with one colour (red I suppose) outlawed / in dissent.
[02:50]	schestowitz[TR]	highest_cubist_thrills: we probably agree except on semantics
[02:50]	DaemonFC	Do you go with attractive younger men who have no intellect at all (18-about 30), or older and try to start a relationship?
[02:50]	DaemonFC	It's really pick a lane.
[02:51]	DaemonFC	And after 35 years, I picked a lane.
[02:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	if you said american media is worthless and uniform and gives the rest of the world a false impression about americans
[02:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	then i would agree
[02:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	if you said it even gives americans a false impression of americans, i would agree with that too
[02:51]	schestowitz[TR]	us media is not unform
[02:51]	schestowitz[TR]	it iks divisive
[02:51]	schestowitz[TR]	and does not report new
[02:51]	schestowitz[TR]	it's pushing "parties"
[02:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	it is uniformly divisive
[02:52]	schestowitz[TR]	*news
[02:52]	DaemonFC	Trying to form a meaningful connection with people is getting to be more of a fruitless endeavor each year.
[02:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	when i said uniform, i didnt mean it doesnt have a fake left and a fake right
[02:52]	DaemonFC	Because the floor that society is built on is rotting and the support beams have fallen out.
[02:52]	schestowitz[TR]	i c
[02:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	only that it is uniformly divisive 
[02:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	there is nothing useful or non-divisive or honest in it
[02:52]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], I wonder what's going on in Japan that's made people so lonely.
[02:52]	DaemonFC	So very very lonely. I know what's doing it here.
[02:53]	DaemonFC	People are idiots, or worse, completely nuts.
[02:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	its not uniformly us or uniformly them it is uniformly us-vs-them
[02:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	coke vs pepsi
[02:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	the only brands you need to know
[02:53]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], I thought Indiana was bad.
[02:53]	DaemonFC	But the sort of depravity I see in Illinois every day....
[02:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	cake or death
[02:54]	DaemonFC	And I know, hey, let's make fun of the guy who says depravity, but I mean, we're talking corpses with bullet holes in them.
[02:54]	DaemonFC	On the ground.
[02:54]	DaemonFC	Waiting for someone to take them away.
[02:54]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: Dobry Cola and New Cola?
[02:54]	DaemonFC	While people are inside the store shopping.
[02:54]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/gun-deaths-wars/
[02:54]	TR Bot	 FACT CHECK: Were There More Gun Deaths Since 1968 Than Deaths in All American Wars?
[02:54]	DaemonFC	We certainly didn't have any of that going on in Indiana.
[02:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	where have i heard of dobry cola
[02:54]	schestowitz[TR]	""Since 1968, more Americans have been killed by guns than have been killed in all wars in U.S. history.
[02:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	oh, hahaha
[02:55]	DaemonFC	I suppose you'd rather that they were knifed.
[02:55]	DaemonFC	Or pushed out of windows.
[02:55]	DaemonFC	That's Putin's thing. Having people pushed out of windows.
[02:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	Since 1968, more Americans have been killed by guns than have been killed in all wars in U.S. history. <- that sounds like a flawed metric from the beginning
[02:55]	DaemonFC	XRevan86, I think you should stop talking, sir.
[02:55]	DaemonFC	;)
[02:55]	DaemonFC	I'd watch out for that window, sir.
[02:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	like saying more people have died from cigarettes than cancer
[02:56]	DaemonFC	"Wish you would step back from that ledge, my friend. You can, cut ties with all the lies that you've been living in."
[02:56]	DaemonFC	What's that? :)
[02:56]	DaemonFC	Too soon.
[02:57]	XRevan86	DaemonFC: That risk is genuinely there.
[02:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	i would definitely want more details
[02:57]	XRevan86	Hopefully I'm enough of an Elusive Joe.
[02:57]	DaemonFC	That sounds like our president.
[02:58]	XRevan86	DaemonFC: No, he's pretty much the opposite of an Elusive Joe :).
[02:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	im trying to understand how dobry cola works, sanctions wise
[02:58]	DaemonFC	Elusive Joe has been eluding the Hunter Biden scandals while failing to elucidate his public speeches.
[02:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	as far as i know, the sanctions are based on who owns what and where... not what they call it
[02:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.85 k/sec., IPFS upstream 32.00 average k/sec., average swarm size 156.18
[02:59]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: A local Russian branch/bottler of Coca-Cola was sold away apparently.
[02:59]	TR News	Two reasons you should quit social control media for WRITING: 1) it biases what TOPICS you cover. 2) it biases HOW you cover those topics (they call it "algospeak"; optimising for hashtags, engagement etc.), e.g. for fear of censorship. Two reasons you should quit social control media for READING: 1) censorship and 2) propaganda by the platform owners. You're manipulated on all counts. QUIT THE CAGE.
[02:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	so coca cola would still be subject to sanctions even if they called it putin cola
[02:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	A local Russian branch/bottler of Coca-Cola was sold away apparently. <- oh of course, just like tasty period
● Sep 11
[03:00]	starstreak	open sores
[03:00]	schestowitz[TR]	opencola.org
[03:00]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: And just like Starbucks Stars Coffee.
[03:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	so you cant sell coca cola in russia, but you can tell the bottling plant to russia :)
[03:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	sell
[03:01]	schestowitz[TR]	FANTAsctic
[03:02]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: As long as they can get the ingridients.
[03:02]	starstreak	RMS drinks pepsi and not opencola, seems like a hypocrite to me
[03:02]	DaemonFC	Diet Fanta....don't you want a Diet Fanta? It won't make your ass so big-a? Don't you want a Diet Fanta?
[03:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	 RMS drinks pepsi and not opencola, seems like a hypocrite to me <- soft drinks != software
[03:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	also he never supported open anything
[03:03]	starstreak	i only eat or drink foods in which the recipe is creative commons
[03:03]	IPFS	 Gemini requests since start of month:   77542 total Total number of pages in capsule: 42527      Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 1 months 7 days ago
[03:03]	DaemonFC	I started singing that when a Fanta commercial was playing in 2002 when I was helping my ex clean the house.
[03:03]	XRevan86	starstreak: So no public domain ones?
[03:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	most importantly, he isnt against people using non-free software
[03:03]	starstreak	XRevan86, public domain too
[03:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	he is against people writing it
[03:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	you shouldnt write non-free software
[03:04]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], I can't drink Fresca anymore.
[03:04]	IPFS	 IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated.  TotalIn: 30 GB    TotalOut: 8.0 GB
[03:04]	DaemonFC	It has grapefruit juice in it.
[03:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	ideally you wouldnt use non-free software either, but its immoral to write it
[03:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	if he started offering pepsi as non-free software, then he would be a hypocrite
[03:05]	IPFS	 New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
[03:05]	DaemonFC	I think Stallman should back away from the Pepsi.
[03:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	its a known fact that stallman will use non-free software for trivial tasks, such as looking up something online (but not as a habit)
[03:07]	DaemonFC	Putin Cola. The secret ingredient is Ricin.
[03:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	most people who call him a hypocrite either dont know his position, or dont care what it is
[03:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	very few people will ever go to the trouble he has though, to do what they think is the right thing to do
[03:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	nor will many people ever get so much shit for being so unhypocritical.
[03:09]	XRevan86	starstreak: `$ uname -r / 5.19.8-1-default`
[03:09]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, i think its hypocritical to demand source code when he doesn't demand recipes
[03:09]	XRevan86	starstreak: Your move.
[03:09]	starstreak	[britney@archbtw ~]$ uname -r
[03:09]	starstreak	5.19.7-arch1-1
[03:09]	starstreak	hmmm
[03:09]	starstreak	u got .8
[03:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	i think youre confusing recipes with software
[03:10]	DaemonFC	https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/305764345_2300375853459129_5365012128820288951_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=a26aad&_nc_ohc=3lABv3oZh0UAX_MZaeI&_nc_ht=scontent-ams2-1.xx&oh=00_AT8Vivjy8BC6Ngww9rycy7FvXS8wFkfKe1vkD9_BTBkePQ&oe=63231E68
[03:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	when you stop doing that, you might realise why it probably isnt hypocrisy
[03:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	they have plenty in common
[03:11]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, source code is just a recipe for software
[03:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats clever, but not intellectually honest
[03:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	there are applicable differences, and if you want me to outline them for you, i dont think youve justified the charge of hypocrisy
[03:11]	TR News	COVID-19 Vaccination in the United Kingdom Stalled (Even Young People Almost Stopped Taking It) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/11/covid19-first-shot/
[03:11]	starstreak	phanes?
[03:11]	TR Bot	Blog Archive COVID-19 Vaccination in the United Kingdom Stalled (Even Young People Almost Stopped Taking It)
[03:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	me?
[03:12]	starstreak	yeah you sound like phanes
[03:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	im flattered, but no
[03:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	definitely not phanes
[03:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	hes a smart guy, we have plenty of differences
[03:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	including political
[03:13]	starstreak	you must be phanes
[03:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	hes libertarian
[03:13]	starstreak	only phanes would think phanes is smart
[03:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	i guess now there are two
[03:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	but that means you think i sound stupid
[03:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	which doesnt make what you said about stallman any more intellectually honest
[03:14]	schestowitz[TR]	I thought it was matey
[03:14]	schestowitz[TR]	or yesterday
[03:14]	schestowitz[TR]	another nym
[03:14]	schestowitz[TR]	thought it was matey
[03:14]	starstreak	i know :(
[03:14]	starstreak	i miss matey
[03:14]	starstreak	attack surface!
[03:14]	DaemonFC	https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardnieva/2022/08/18/tiktok-in-app-browser-research/
[03:14]	TR Bot	 TikToks In-App Browser Includes Code That Can Monitor Your Keystrokes, Researcher Says
[03:14]	schestowitz[TR]	attack btw
[03:15]	XRevan86	"only phanes would think phanes is smart" <- Who's this XRevan86 person? They sound borderline brilliant.
[03:15]	starstreak	my hostname is archbtw lol
[03:15]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: not just tiktok
[03:15]	schestowitz[TR]	it's become "normalised"
[03:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	oh, youre britney
[03:15]	schestowitz[TR]	#ExitWeb
[03:15]	schestowitz[TR]	:-)
[03:15]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, yes
[03:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	i missed you too
[03:15]	schestowitz[TR]	hi matey
[03:15]	starstreak	oh you're matey?
[03:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me nods
[03:15]	schestowitz[TR]	0/
[03:15]	schestowitz[TR]	wb
[03:15]		*starstreak jumps in excitement
[03:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	hi
[03:16]	starstreak	attack surface
[03:16]	schestowitz[TR]	techuser missed yyyou
[03:16]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: Oh. I watched Demobbed, BTW.
[03:16]	schestowitz[TR]	*you
[03:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	what did you think of demobbed
[03:16]	starstreak	welcome back matey
[03:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	cheers
[03:17]	starstreak	its been a few days since phanes was online
[03:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	he will be back im sure
[03:17]	starstreak	phanes is also bagira
[03:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	yes, i know
[03:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont cycle nyms much
[03:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	yes, i was gnunited_fruit
[03:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	i like this better
[03:17]	starstreak	why did you delete your email account?
[03:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	its a long story
[03:18]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: It wasn't as good as I thought it would be.
[03:19]	schestowitz[TR]	hmmm.. the gemini capsules locked up 24 hours ago
[03:19]	schestowitz[TR]	fixing it, probably a deadlock, dstale lock file
[03:19]	starstreak	my computer probably hates me
[03:19]	TR News	2110 active Gemini capsules known to Lupa gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
[03:19]	starstreak	i keep generating a.i art lol
[03:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[03:20]	schestowitz[TR]	Oh, I think I know what happened, the connection died while it was refreshing the capsule
[03:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	i keep generating a.i art lol <- what are you using to generate it
[03:20]	starstreak	Stable Diffusion
[03:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	<XRevan86> highest_cubist_thrills: It wasn't as good as I thought it would be <- i loved it, i wonder what you were hoping for
[03:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	interesting
[03:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	github, no doubt! like everything else
[03:21]	starstreak	yup!
[03:21]	starstreak	lol
[03:21]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: I think it was more novel for you because ye are not familiar with Russian television series.
[03:21]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, my resume is on github pages :D
[03:21]	starstreak	free webspace is nice
[03:21]	XRevan86	It felt too much like a Russian TV production. Which it is I guess.
[03:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	https://github.com/CompVis/stable-diffusion
[03:22]	TR Bot	- CompVis/stable-diffusion
[03:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	<starstreak> free webspace is nice <- so is free cheese
[03:22]	starstreak	free cheese would be awesome
[03:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	but if you see any sitting on a giant spring loaded metal lever, just leave it
[03:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	free kool aid is nice too...
[03:22]	starstreak	lol
[03:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	but not always
[03:23]	starstreak	i use github and vscode
[03:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	free as in kool aid
[03:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	<starstreak> i use github and vscod <- its a wonder i like you at all
[03:23]	XRevan86	I did like many scenes from it though.
[03:23]	starstreak	vscode is awesome
[03:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	which was your favourite
[03:23]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, cuz im just trolling u lol
[03:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	aww :)
[03:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	you do use vscode though, ive seen the icon
[03:24]	starstreak	i havent used it in like a month
[03:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	but what are you using?
[03:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	"i havent edited code in like a month" :)
[03:24]	starstreak	nothing but nano atm
[03:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	better nano than vscode
[03:24]	starstreak	lol yes i havent edited code in like a month
[03:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	i stopped using nano because the author is a ttraitor
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[03:25]	TR Bot	 On the World Wide Web, 25 Years is an Eternity | Techrights
[03:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	but at least its not on github eh
[03:25]	starstreak	vscode has cool thinks like autocompletion and formatting
[03:25]	starstreak	whats wrong with nano?
[03:25]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: But nano is kaniini approved.
[03:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me replaced nano with je which is... not exactly a perfect nano replacement (its huge)
[03:25]	starstreak	how is the author of nano a traitor?
[03:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	 But nano is kaniini approved. <- kaniini, as far as i know, signed the same thing the nano author did
[03:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	but considering that almost NO ONE unsigned it
[03:26]	TR News	Heavy rain all day long on Bank/Monarchy Holiday Money gemini://caolan.uk/cgi-bin/weather.py/wxfcs/352509
[03:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	and considering that one of the almost none that did runs this place
[03:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	and has everyones support
[03:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	AND
[03:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	AND!
[03:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	considering that they had one of the least offensive justifications for doing so in the first place
[03:27]	starstreak	guhnew slash linucks
[03:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	it hardly makes sense to tar them with the same brush
[03:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean
[03:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	one of the things about cancel culture is youre not allowed to win
[03:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	if someone out of 3000 people is going to be the least obnoxious of the 3000
[03:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	credit where credit is due, right?
[03:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	but that doesnt get the nano author off the hook
[03:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	i know there are innocent people on the list
[03:28]	starstreak	i canceled brave
[03:28]	starstreak	i switched back to firefox today
[03:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	let them demonstrate some innocense, like she did
[03:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	 i switched back to firefox today <- i did that once
[03:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	whatd you switch from?
[03:29]	starstreak	i was using brave
[03:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me tries to demonstrate some spelling too
[03:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	<starstreak> guhnew slash linucks <- id donate to openbsd to hear theo say this just once...
[03:29]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: Oh, I should have known ye are matey, the way ye use "<-" is a dead give away.
[03:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	but not if it kills him
[03:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	 the way ye use "<-"  <- i was holding back on that until britney guessed
[03:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	if anyone other than britney had guessed i would have kept quiet
[03:30]	starstreak	:)
[03:30]	XRevan86	I also use it like that, but I wrap the quotation in quotation marks, which is conventional.
[03:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	once it was clear it was me, no reason not to <- 
[03:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	it did slip once or twice
[03:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	but I wrap the quotation in quotation marks <- i would but too lazy
[03:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	its a good idea nonetheless
[03:31]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: Did ye take that from me, by the way?
[03:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	not consciously, but who knows
[03:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	when i see somethign that makes sense to me, ill often adopt it
[03:33]	starstreak	"I'm your worst nightmare"
[03:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	rofl
[03:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	eric s rambo
[03:34]	XRevan86	I used to use a quotation and then a dash but then I saw a bridge to IRC use "<-" and figured that looks more clear (and more standardised).
[03:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9SW7-8C8kL4
[03:34]	TR Bot	 Weird Al Yankovic UHF Rambo Scene - Invidious
[03:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	id be lying if i said i dont find that sort of thing interesting XRevan86, but it is tempting
[03:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	im pretty certain its just you and me
[03:36]	XRevan86	And the bridges :).
[03:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	oh they probably just "needed" to for some practical reason
[03:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	even they dont care
[03:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	just us
[03:37]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, you should make a Theo De Raadt sound board
[03:37]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: The reason is the same: how to put a quote and a reply into one IRC message (one line).
[03:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	whats a sound board (other than a high end alternative to a chip on a mainboard)
[03:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	like 4chan is an image board? but for sound?
[03:38]	starstreak	a sound board is a board full of buttons that you click to listen to one liners
[03:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	funnily enough
[03:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	when i was in high school
[03:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	i wanted to get a bunch of chips that would hold one sample 
[03:38]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: Them Matrices and Discords have rich text replies, and the bridge has to convert that into a line of plain text in a way that looks good.
[03:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	the bridge has to convert that into a line of plain text <- you dont mean actual rtf, just "rich text" right?
[03:39]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: Anonymous but for sound?
[03:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont think so 
[03:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	but that was what i imagined at first
[03:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	also obvious logical problem is obvious-- sound is far less anonymous than images and text
[03:40]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: Not rtf, just that a message can have a property "reply".
[03:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me nods
[03:41]	TR News	"If you spend too much time thinking about a thing, you'll never get it done. Make at least one definitive move daily toward your goal." gemini://snonux.land/gemfeed/2022-09-10-if-you-spend-too-much-time-thinking.gmi
[03:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me forks vrms to vtdr
[03:41]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: Also sound is slow to process by people, so having a board for sound would be miserable.
[03:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	vrms just complains about non-free software
[03:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	vtdr complains about excess whitespace
[03:42]	XRevan86	Telegram Premium has a feature: ability to disable voice messages.
[03:42]	XRevan86	Might be a reason why some people would pay real money for that (:
[03:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	i thought the client was "free software", why cant it do that?
[03:43]	XRevan86	Well, it sounds like a server thing anyway, as it should forbid the other side from sending the forbidden message type.
[03:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	oh okay
[03:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah
[03:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	i imagined clients getting sound messages "whether you like them or not"
[03:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dunno what about using debian would make me imagine such a ridiculous abuse of users...
[03:44]	TR News	Commands to Sync Time with NTP Server in Linux <p class="dropcap-first"> <a class="readon" title="Linux Hint" href="https://linuxhint.com/sync-time-ntp-server-linux/">Read on</a>
[03:44]	TR Bot	 Commands to Sync Time with NTP Server in Linux
[03:44]	XRevan86	In that case one can just not listen to them. But that's not exactly the same.
[03:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	hahaha
[03:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	and like the soviet union, free software used to exist
[03:45]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: "i dunno what about using debian would make me imagine such a ridiculous abuse of users..." <- Huh
[03:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	usually when one of the lines i say seems entirely non-sequitor
[03:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	its a reference to the line IMMEDIATELY before it
[03:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	 i imagined clients getting sound messages "whether you like them or not"
[03:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dunno what about using debian would make me imagine such a ridiculous abuse of users...
[03:46]	TR News	Remember when mobile phones run for WEEKS without charge? Who's "dumb" now? https://www.macrumors.com/2022/09/09/garmin-reacts-to-apple-watch-ultra/
[03:46]	TR Bot	Reacts to Apple Watch Ultra: 'We Measure Battery Life in Months. Not Hours.' - MacRumors
[03:47]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: I got that these are connected, but that didn't make me understand your line of thinking.
[03:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	you said it was about the server. i got that part, but i was saying ORIGINALLY i imagined the client not being ablt to do anything about it
[03:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	in other words
[03:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	you can "just not listen" :)
[03:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	but your free client cant do shit about it
[03:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean people have been tryign to remove systemd from debian for years
[03:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats the only connection
[03:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	but its a connection between actual debian and the imagined telegram client that makes you listen to shit you dont want to 
[03:48]	XRevan86	The free client can parse the message out but that's not in any way more useful than just ignoring the messages.
[03:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	but that's not in any way more useful than just ignoring the messages <- so spam is a non-issue on that platform?
[03:48]	XRevan86	It's more about that the sender will expect the message to be heard after they sent it.
[03:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	i thought we were talking about audio originally
[03:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	being able to mute audio isnt useless
[03:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	i think there were about three miscommunications in a row that got us here :)
[03:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	not just one or two
[03:49]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: Um, well, it's not going to autoplay, that's ridiculous.
[03:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	its probably my fault, but that doesnt change the fact
[03:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	that's ridiculous. <- hence my remark about debian
[03:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	"i dunno what about using debian would make me imagine such a ridiculous abuse of users..."
[03:50]	XRevan86	I get it now.
[03:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	i knew you would
[03:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	anyone else woudl have given up two minutes ago
[03:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me still has a copy of vinnie pooh on here somewhere
[03:50]	XRevan86	I guess I got the reputation of being thorough :).
[03:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	there are worse things to have a reputation for than trying to understand people
[03:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	its a pretty rare trait these days
[03:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	imagine if everyone did that
[03:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	 O_O
[03:51]	XRevan86	Ain't nobody got time for that
[03:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	lol rite
[03:54]	TR News	How Audible steals from creators https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/07/audible-exclusive/#audiblegate " You can't just give them a tool to convert Audible files to MP3s or even another DRM format."
[03:54]	TR Bot	 Pluralistic: 07 Sep 2022 We published an Audible Exclusive about the monopolistic abuses of Audible Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
[03:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	douglas adams got stopped by the police in china one time
[03:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	because he had put a small headlight on his bicycle
[03:54]	TR News	The Stubborn Computing Manifesto https://www.datagubbe.se/stubborn/
[03:54]	TR Bot	Stubborn Computing Manifesto | datagubbe.se
[03:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	the police said to him
[03:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	"how would it be if everyone did that?"
[03:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	ive read many, many things by douglas adams
[03:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	mostly fictional, some non-fictional
[03:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	this is one of the ones that really stuck out :)
[03:55]	TR News	How Classes and Objects Work in Python https://earthly.dev/blog/how-cls-obj-work-Python/
[03:55]	TR Bot	 How Classes and Objects Work in Python - Earthly Blog
[03:56]	TR News	"Engineers 3D print materials with networks of sensors directly incorporated." https://news.mit.edu/2022/materials-sense-movements-0810
[03:56]	TR Bot	 New programmable materials can sense their own movements | MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology
[03:56]	XRevan86	"how would it be if everyone did that?" <- Easier for everyone? I don't know
[03:56]	TR News	"They can and do; when artificial intelligence programmers stopped trying to copy the human neuron, they made much better progress" https://mindmatters.ai/2022/08/can-computer-neural-networks-learn-better-than-human-neurons/
[03:56]	TR Bot	 Can Computer Neural Networks Learn Better Than Human Neurons? | Mind Matters
[03:57]	TR News	Chinese game company appointed the worlds first humanoid robot as its CEO https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/chinese-company-humanoid-ceo Source: Interesting Engineering | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//interestingengineering.com/innovation/chinese-company-humanoid-ceo
[03:57]	TR Bot	 Chinese game company appointed the worlds first humanoid robot as its CEO
[03:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	i still dont get it really
[03:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	but its in the salmon of doubt if you ever care to read it (again)
[03:58]	TR News	Huawei just beat the iPhone 14 to a key new feature https://www.techradar.com/news/huawei-just-beat-the-iphone-14-to-a-key-new-feature
[03:58]	TR Bot	just beat the iPhone 14 to a key new feature | TechRadar
[03:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.35 k/sec., IPFS upstream 74.43 average k/sec., average swarm size 145.95
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[04:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	i suppose theres also a small chance it was in the meaning of liff
[04:02]	XRevan86	"Huawei just beat the iPhone 14 to a key new feature" <- "A toad fscked a viper"
[04:02]	TR News	AstraZeneca sales of COVID-19 products: there are now well under 1,000 new adopters per day https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/11/covid19-first-shot/
[04:02]	TR Bot	Blog Archive COVID-19 Vaccination in the United Kingdom Stalled (Even Young People Almost Stopped Taking It)
[04:03]	TR News	TechDirt turns 25 and we too expect to reach 25 (weve future-proofed everything) http://techrights.org/2022/09/10/25-for-techdirt/
[04:03]	TR Bot	 On the World Wide Web, 25 Years is an Eternity | Techrights
[04:03]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: If ye think it's a weird Russian saying, ye'd be right :)
[04:03]	schestowitz[TR]	huawei is bigger than apple
[04:03]	schestowitz[TR]	ignore wall street fraud
[04:03]	schestowitz[TR]	apple is not worth much
[04:03]	schestowitz[TR]	my dad told me eysterday apple "earning warning" was imminent
[04:04]	schestowitz[TR]	they have no value to offer
[04:04]	schestowitz[TR]	just branding BS and financial instruments
[04:04]	XRevan86	Is Huawei smartphone business bigger than Apple iPhone?
[04:06]	TR News	#Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, September 10, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
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[04:06]	TR Bot	 Techrights Full IPFS Index
[04:06]	schestowitz[TR]	XRevan86: company sizes
[04:07]	schestowitz[TR]	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huawei
[04:07]	TR Bot	 Huawei - Wikipedia
[04:07]	schestowitz[TR]	it's also military contractor
[04:07]	schestowitz[TR]	Number of employees197,000
[04:07]	XRevan86	The saying means that the competition is between unappealing adversaries, and one doesn't care about the outcome or the process.
[04:08]	schestowitz[TR]	Apple 154,000
[04:08]	schestowitz[TR]	XRevan86: I don'\t buy their products
[04:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	giafam = gifam?
[04:08]	XRevan86	Huawei is big, but its smartphone business shrank a lot too.
[04:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	if they merged with nokia, they could be called nowei
[04:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	but theres probably nowei that would happen
[04:09]	XRevan86	Why would I care about Chinese satellites anyway? Or is it just the principle that they thought of the same idea and shipped it first?
[04:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	i thought russians thought of it first
[04:10]	schestowitz[TR]	huakia
[04:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	gesundheit
[04:10]	schestowitz[TR]	<XRevan86> Huawei is big, but its smartphone business shrank a lot too.
[04:10]	schestowitz[TR]	wonder huai
[04:10]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: Russia doesn't really have phone manufacturing.
[04:11]	schestowitz[TR]	'free' market
[04:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	i was thinking of sputnik
[04:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	the original one
[04:11]	XRevan86	Satellite phones are not a new thing either.
[04:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	definitely not
[04:11]	schestowitz[TR]	turns out the West only wanted china for its sweatshops (slaves)
[04:12]	schestowitz[TR]	china was not 'supposed' to make products of its own
[04:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	turns out the West only wanted china for its sweatshops (slaves) <- this is not surprising
[04:12]	schestowitz[TR]	they're just rented as slaves
[04:12]	XRevan86	They merged it with a cellular phone, and that the hype.
[04:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	i cant imagine how awful the service would be
[04:12]	schestowitz[TR]	the queen dying is symbolic of the western power's demise
[04:12]	schestowitz[TR]	end end of BE relics
[04:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean, satellite internet is known for terrible and unreliable bandwidth-- exactly what you dont want for voice
[04:13]	schestowitz[TR]	*and end
[04:13]	schestowitz[TR]	kind charles is "lame duck"
[04:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	im sure they compress the fuck out of it
[04:13]	schestowitz[TR]	*king
[04:13]	schestowitz[TR]	nobody here takes him too seriously
[04:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	but thats exactly what people hated about old cell phones
[04:13]	schestowitz[TR]	the brother of pdeo drew
[04:13]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Is the Gorbachev's death symbolic of anything?
[04:13]	schestowitz[TR]	that too
[04:13]	schestowitz[TR]	I thought this hours ago
[04:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	XRevan86: the triumph of capitalism?
[04:14]	schestowitz[TR]	when reading an article about him
[04:14]	schestowitz[TR]	queen and gorby days apart
[04:14]	schestowitz[TR]	and philip
[04:14]	schestowitz[TR]	the TRUMP of capitalism
[04:14]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: I'm not a very imaginative person so my answer is: human mortality.
[04:14]	schestowitz[TR]	the traitor is not dead yet
[04:14]	schestowitz[TR]	"well, he's dead"
[04:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me didnt know Gorbachev was still around
[04:14]	schestowitz[TR]	"we came, we saw, he died
[04:14]	schestowitz[TR]	"
[04:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	(yes i realise hes not now)
[04:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	(so TECHNICALLY i was right, but theres a nuance)
[04:15]	schestowitz[TR]	btw,  thunberg got buried
[04:15]	DaemonFC	starstreak lumps me in with people who want to bring back 8 track tapes because I think Gecko 78 should still work on the Web.
[04:15]	schestowitz[TR]	the media changes to another agenda
[04:15]	DaemonFC	There's no important new functionality on the Web site of the electric company, or my bank.
[04:15]	DaemonFC	Why should my existing Web browser stop working if the site doesn't do anything that's useful that requires a new API?
[04:16]	DaemonFC	The electric company wants the new APIs in order to run tracking malware.
[04:16]	DaemonFC	I suspect that the bank wants them for the same reason.
[04:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	i guess climate change isnt a problem then, thats great
[04:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	well, thank god, for a minute i was worried
[04:16]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: He lived a long live unlike Yeltsin who did that: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8C%D1%81%D1%8F
[04:16]	TR Bot	 - Wiktionary
[04:16]	DaemonFC	The electric company still works well enough to pay my bills in Firefox, with NoScript, and with some of the domains not allowed to run JavaScript.
[04:16]	XRevan86	* life
[04:17]	DaemonFC	This is probably as good as it's going to get from here on out with ComEd.
[04:17]	DaemonFC	Ironically, the bank Web site that stopped working in SeaMonkey also works more slowly in Firefox, if you block the tracking garbage.
[04:18]	TR News	LOL. "Free Source Foundation" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dBhqUW1xoMM
[04:18]	TR Bot	 Learn C Programming with Richard Stallman on Linux! - Invidious
[04:18]	DaemonFC	The code from the main site, which is needed for the bank's site to work, actually pauses anything from loading about halfway in, waits about 8 seconds, then gives up and allows the rest of the banking application to work.
[04:19]	starstreak	<DaemonFC> starstreak lumps me in with people who want to bring back 8 track tapes because I think Gecko 78 should still work on the Web. <- yes
[04:19]	DaemonFC	The rendering capabilities of Gecko in SeaMonkey are a little farther along than Firefox 78 ESR was.
[04:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me remembers Gorbachev being old decades ago
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[04:20]	DaemonFC	I don't think that this should cause a major breakdown on _any_ Web site considering that you used to be able to use Web browsers that hadn't been updated much at all for 8 years.
[04:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	he must have been like 120 when he died
[04:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	they build that old soviet shit to last
[04:21]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR] was talking about when the Web was actually a Web of pages with links, and highly centered on documents that people read.
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[04:21]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: He was 91, Elizabeth was 96.
[04:21]	DaemonFC	In that environment, even Netscape 4 was enough, really.
[04:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	he was surely 30% lada by the time he died
[04:21]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: yeah
[04:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	he was a lot younger when i thought he was a lot older
[04:21]	schestowitz[TR]	now it's like a VM
[04:22]	schestowitz[TR]	yesterday I saw a list of DICOM views "for chrome"
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[04:22]	schestowitz[TR]	you'd be right to say, WTF has a browser have to do with viewing 3d objects??
[04:22]	DaemonFC	The Web is not really a VM. It's a lot worse than that.
[04:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	webgl, or something
[04:22]	schestowitz[TR]	it became just a set of application APIs and system calls with browser system level
[04:22]	schestowitz[TR]	like Adobe Trash but worse
[04:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	mozilla/linux
[04:23]	DaemonFC	With WASM, you get mjg59_'s "This is Fine." "security" model of run arbitrary binaries in your browser and just hope the sandbox isn't breached.
[04:23]	schestowitz[TR]	more powerful and versatile, even DRM  _BUILT  IN_
[04:23]	DaemonFC	Even though you use an Intel processor and there's probably attacks on those that you can pull off.
[04:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	gnu is implemented in webgl and mozilla is implemented in rust
[04:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	"we needed to get drm into gnu, we figured this was the best way other than gnu moving to github"
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[04:24]	DaemonFC	It's Revenge of the NaCl.
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[04:24]	DaemonFC	(WASM is.)
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[04:24]	DaemonFC	And Web browsers are Attack of the Chrome Clones.
[04:24]	TR News	"What people have done to him is unfair and cruel, accuse him... of what? Of making rational, inquisitive comments? Even if someone didn't like them, it is within his rights to make them. Or is there no more freedom of expression?" https://stallmansupport.org/testimonies-letters-writings-and-more.html#francisca
[04:24]	TR Bot	 Testimonies, Letters, Writings, and More | Stallman Support
[04:25]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: don't worry, mozilla is serious about security
[04:25]	schestowitz[TR]	it means business
[04:25]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Even if what you're doing isn't illegal, or disgusting, or distasteful, disagreeing with mjg59_ will probably get you hate mail and letters to your ISP asking them to disconnect you.
[04:25]	schestowitz[TR]	it hired from "The Company"
[04:25]	schestowitz[TR]	directly
[04:25]	DaemonFC	He's Irish so not used to living in a democracy.
[04:25]	schestowitz[TR]	career path: uni, cia, then mozilla CSO
[04:26]	DaemonFC	But he claims to be an American now, even though he'll never be one.
[04:26]	schestowitz[TR]	career path: genetics, red hat, 'secrity' genius
[04:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	im not here to make jokes about russian brides, per se
[04:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean i think that comedy wise thats tapped out
[04:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	but just the name of the website, is what i find hilarious
[04:26]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], People in Ireland found out how "free" they are during COVID.
[04:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	ladadate.com/russian-brides 
[04:26]	DaemonFC	Things got even more oppressive there than they did in Illinois under Pritzker.
[04:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	if you saw a dating app called "toyotadate" what would you imagine?
[04:27]	DaemonFC	Or mjg59_'s adopted state of California, where Governor Nuisance told them they were on home confinement while he had maskless dinner parties at a $700 a plate restaurant in violation of his own public health order.
[04:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	granted, they technically have that...
[04:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	they just call it tinder
[04:28]	DaemonFC	They just quietly opened the restaurant up for rich people and slipped the Governor in.
[04:28]	schestowitz[TR]	toy over-the-air date
[04:28]	DaemonFC	And he didn't reckon anyone would photograph it.
[04:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	they have that too
[04:28]	schestowitz[TR]	sounds like a wanking |"app"
[04:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	but its called something else
[04:28]	DaemonFC	They called a recall election and the majority voted to continue with the stupid bastard.
[04:29]	DaemonFC	They're talking about trying to run Gavin Newsom for POTUS.
[04:29]	DaemonFC	LOL
[04:29]	DaemonFC	It'll be the biggest electoral wipeout since Walter Mondale.
[04:29]	DaemonFC	Nobody outside of California is that dumb.
[04:29]	TR News	Snal 1.21 is released, based on Arch, uses i3 https://sourceforge.net/projects/snallinux/
[04:29]	TR Bot	Linux download | SourceForge.net
[04:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me wont use apps for dating
[04:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	if i need google to manage my love life im just going to take up stamp collecting or something
[04:30]	schestowitz[TR]	never used apps
[04:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	youve been married for like a decade
[04:30]	DaemonFC	Trump doesn't seem to actually care that his sticking around is damaging the Republican Party and fucking up winnable elections.
[04:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	and youre definitely not in the lifestyle
[04:31]	DaemonFC	His interference in the Illinois election all but ensures we get Prickster again.
[04:31]	schestowitz[TR]	dating is a lifestyle?
[04:31]	DaemonFC	He's stayed quiet on the Illinois Supreme Court elections. I do plan to vote for Mark Curran.
[04:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	it is when youre married
[04:32]	DaemonFC	There's two seats that might be flipped and we only need to flip one of them to get rid of the Democratic Party majority on the Supreme Court.
[04:32]	schestowitz[TR]	some people date based on some old profile photo from 2 decades ago
[04:32]	DaemonFC	They can start the shredder and ruin almost everything the Democrats are passing into law as soon as they retake the court.
[04:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	i imagine that happens sometimes
[04:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	since theres a term for it
[04:34]	TR News	shikokuchuo{net}: nanonext - a web toolkit https://shikokuchuo.net/posts/19-nanonext-webtools/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//shikokuchuo.net/posts/19-nanonext-webtools/
[04:34]	TR Bot	 shikokuchuo{net}: nanonext - a web toolkit
[04:34]	DaemonFC	I think we can flip the Supreme Court seat where I'm at.
[04:34]	TR News	"If you've ever wondered how our boards are made, you're in luck today! This behind the scenes video gives you a front row seat to every step of production of the QuickLogic Thing Plus, from the components getting soldered on all the way to packing the red box that ends up in your mailbox." https://www.sparkfun.com/news/5322
[04:35]	TR Bot	Eye Point of View - News - SparkFun Electronics
[04:35]	DaemonFC	If you look at the primary, there were about 20,000 more votes for Republicans than there were for the Democrats. It's a matter of getting them out to vote and getting them to vote for Curran, and the Republicans have this one in the bag.
[04:35]	DaemonFC	Bye bye FOID Act.
[04:36]	DaemonFC	If you look at how the prosecutors use the FOID Act, it's useless. Right? It gets guns out of the hands of almost zero criminals. It stops no crime. But the damage is very real, because when they charge a criminal with the FOID Act, there's always at least 5-6 other crimes on the indictment. Actual crimes other than not having a card that "permits" you a Constiuttional right.
[04:37]	DaemonFC	When they charge FOID by itself, it's always some guy that has no criminal record, they just got him with a FOID Card violation and stopped no crime because he wasn't planning to attack anyone.
[04:37]	DaemonFC	He didn't have drugs, he didn't shoot anyone. He probably just let the card expire.
[04:38]	DaemonFC	And now we have to stop and have a trial, which costs a million dollars, and put him in prison, and take a husband and father out of the home and ruin the lives of his children.
[04:39]	DaemonFC	That's pretty much all the Democrats do with these laws.
[04:40]	TR News	"I do not know that I have felt that sense of transcendence, and believe I am probably missing out both on strong emotional connections with others and on an ability to contribute effectively to society (to a society, to any society) by lacking the strong motivation that comes from knowing that making other people happier makes me happier, because I am with them." https://www.sicpers.info/2022/09/transcendence/
[04:40]	TR Bot	 Transcendence | Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programmers
[04:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	XRevan86: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0fZ-r5Qe3tM
[04:40]	TR Bot	 This Video Caused An International Incident! - Invidious
[04:41]	TR News	Generators Of Disagreement With AI Alignment - by George https://www.epistem.ink/p/generators-of-disagreement-with-ai Source: George | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.epistem.ink/p/generators-of-disagreement-with-ai
[04:41]	TR Bot	 Generators Of Disagreement With AI Alignment - by George
[04:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	he did get banned from russia (permanently) about a month or two later
[04:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	which is too bad, he was nearly done crossing the entire thing 
[04:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	(piecemeal)
[04:42]	TR News	Every billionaire is a factory for producing policy failures https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/08/torment-nexus/
[04:42]	TR Bot	 Pluralistic: 08 Sep 2022 Billionaires as policy-failure factories; In Real Life, in real life Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
[04:43]	TR News	No More Invasive SurgeryThis Pacemaker Dissolves Instead https://spectrum.ieee.org/dissolvable-pacemaker
[04:43]	TR Bot	 No More Invasive SurgeryThis Pacemaker Dissolves Instead - IEEE Spectrum
[04:45]	TR News	Predators inside the home. Smart or dumb? https://staceyoniot.com/podcast-insurers-come-for-the-smart-home/
[04:45]	TR Bot	 Podcast: Insurers come for the smart home - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
[04:48]	TR News	Pluralsight is a very microsofty thing, i.e. back doors and cult-like BS. Avoid.
[04:50]	TR News	"Izyum has fallen. Russian troops are abandoning weapons and stores and fleeing on foot or surrendering. Its a collapse reminiscent of the fall of France to the Nazis in 1940. A general was even captured alive. Folks in Russia are calling for the removal of Putin. Life is good and getting better. Now, the world needs to deal with Trump" https://mrpogson.com/2022/09/10/how-the-mighty-are-falling/
[04:50]	TR Bot	 How The Mighty Are Falling | Robert Pogson
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[05:00]	DaemonFC	Ugh, one of my new pair of jeans didn't even make it through the laundry once!
[05:01]	starstreak	lol
[05:01]	starstreak	im rendering "pokemon drug dealer" and im gonna see the result of that one
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[05:04]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: colour faded?
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[05:07]	TR News	"By their nature, supply chains are notoriously messy, complex and opaque. Fundamental issues remain hidden in the shadows, whether they be child and forced labor, deforestation or the impact of climate change." https://www.supplychainbrain.com/blogs/1-think-tank/post/35579-its-time-to-address-the-poor-quality-of-supply-chain-data
[05:07]	TR Bot	Time to Address the Poor Quality of Supply Chain Data | SupplyChainBrain
[05:08]	TR News	"In order to build successful machine learning solutions, there are certain fundamental ideas that everyone involved needs to understand. In this blog post, we look at three key early stages of the design process that managers can focus on to ensure that the project is headed toward a successful outcome." https://towardsdatascience.com/improving-machine-learning-outcomes-by-focusing-on-framing-timing-and-targets-28d5d112b697
[05:08]	TR Bot	 Improving Machine Learning Outcomes | by John Hawkins | Towards Data Science
[05:09]	TR News	"Researchers have quantum entangled atomic clocks, allowing them to be synchronised more accurately. Such entangled clocks could be used to study dark matter and gravity more precisely" https://www.newscientist.com/article/2337042-two-atomic-clocks-have-been-quantum-entangled-for-the-first-time/
[05:09]	TR Bot	 Two atomic clocks have been quantum entangled for the first time | New Scientist
[05:10]	TR News	Pushing the Frontiers of Mathematical Research https://cacm.acm.org/news/264409-pushing-the-frontiers-of-mathematical-research/fulltext
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[05:10]	TR Bot	 Pushing the Frontiers of Mathematical Research | News | Communications of the ACM
[05:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	crackemon, i choose you!
[05:11]	TR News	Lamboozling Attackers: A New Generation of Deception https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2022/6/261170-lamboozling-attackers/fulltext
[05:11]	TR Bot	 Lamboozling Attackers: A New Generation of Deception | June 2022 | Communications of the ACM
[05:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	its super effective
[05:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	its super addictive
[05:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	you got any crack?
[05:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	cmon man, i used to be in team rocket!
[05:16]	starstreak	cocaine is a hell of a drug
[05:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[05:21]	schestowitz[TR]	it used to be coca cola ingredient
[05:22]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz[TR]> DaemonFC: colour faded?
[05:22]	DaemonFC	Yeah, dye came out of just one spot.
[05:22]	DaemonFC	GRRR
[05:22]	TR News	The Disappearance Of 4chan user 'Strah' gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-09-11-strah.gmi
[05:24]	DaemonFC	The guy said they don't want it back and I'd get a refund on my card soon.
[05:24]	DaemonFC	Since there's nothing to lose, I might try using some Rit dye on it in the bathtub.
[05:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	fuck yo couch
[05:50]	DaemonFC	Yeah, it is a rather cheap couch.
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[06:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[06:22]	starstreak	<highest_cubist_thrills> fuck yo couch <- XD
[06:23]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, i guess your attack surface is the malware bootloader (the browser)
[06:23]	starstreak	attack surface
[06:24]	psydruid	https://wccftech.com/intel-price-hike-to-affect-cpus-motherboard-chipsets-in-q4-up-to-20-percent-increase/
[06:24]	TR Bot	 Intel Price Hike To Affect Upcoming CPUs, Motherboard Chipsets & Other Components In Q4, Up To 20% Increase
[06:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	 :)
[06:25]	psydruid	Because our margins aren't high enough yet, so let's squeeze them a bit more
[06:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	"this is stupid dad, cmon, lets just delete the malware, we can do it together-- ive got a keyboard, lets go"
[06:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	"no scott, im not going to 'delete the malware'"
[06:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	"im going to subject it to a series of elaborate mitigations designed to let the malware run but in a way that wont affect overall security"
[06:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	"mitigations"
[06:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	theo: "randomise the kernel address space"
[06:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	frau "RANDOMISE THE KERNEL ADDRESS SPAAAAAACEEEE!"
[06:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	"initiate the 'laser'"
[06:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	"INITIATE THE LASEEERRR!!"
[06:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	"start the network applications"
[06:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	"START THE NETWORK APPLICATIONS!!!!"
[06:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	"i use volcano lair os btw"
[06:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	"no mini me, stop humping the .rc files-- get a frikkin room already"
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[07:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[07:38]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, inferno OS, based on plan9
[07:54]	starstreak	"Who is this Koopa Clown" -Mario
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[08:01]	TR News	"I am ashamed to admit that I never played much of the original DOOM when it came out or in the decades since" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/voxel-doom-brings-voxel-goodness-to-the-original-doom/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:01]	TR Bot	Doom brings voxel goodness to the original DOOM | GamingOnLinux
[08:01]	TR News	"Starlight Children's Foundation Bundle" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/the-starlight-childrens-foundation-bundle-has-a-really-odd-selection/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[08:01]	TR Bot	Starlight Children's Foundation Bundle has a really odd selection | GamingOnLinux
[08:03]	TR News	"There was a time when 5 MB was the reasonable maximum size for an email attachment." https://opensource.com/article/22/9/resize-optimize-images-web-linux | Source: OpenSource.com
[08:03]	TR Bot	ways to resize and optimize images for the web on Linux | Opensource.com
[08:04]	TR News	"open-source and low-cost Time of Flight (ToF) cameras" https://linuxgizmos.com/tof-3d-cameras-compatible-with-mcus-and-support-ros1-ros2/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
[08:04]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/tof-3d-cameras-compatible-with-mcus-and-support-ros1-ros2/ )
[08:05]	TR News	"This tutorial will show you how to get latest version of Debian GNU/Linux operating system from the internet for desktop" https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/09/debian-downloading-guide-for-beginners.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
[08:05]	TR Bot	 Debian Downloading Guide for Beginners
[08:05]	TR News	chatcontrol https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://femtejuli.se/2022/09/06/tyska-regeringen-splittrad-om-chatcontrol/
[08:05]	TR Bot	 Tyska regeringen splittrad om #ChatControl
[08:06]	TR News	"Boris went to Eton, a sort of Hogwarts for wankers, where you get taught Latin and tax avoidance whilst wearing full evening dress" https://econ4.org/uncategorized/dissecting-the-bojo-phenomenon
[08:06]	TR Bot	 Dissecting the BoJo phenomenon Econ4
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[08:43]	TR News	Liz Trump https://truthout.org/articles/uks-new-prime-minister-makes-no-apologies-for-favoring-the-wealthy/ | Source: TruthOut
[08:43]	TR Bot	 UKs New Prime Minister Makes No Apologies for Favoring the Wealthy
[08:44]	TR News	"To divert people away from piracy, legal streaming services warn of the unreliability of illegal streaming sites" https://torrentfreak.com/football-fans-turn-pirate-as-another-legal-streaming-service-falls-over-220910/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[08:44]	TR Bot	Fans Turn Pirate as Another Legal Streaming Service Falls Over * TorrentFreak
[08:53]	TR News	"Radioactivity has always been a fascinating phenomenon for anyone interested in physics" https://hackaday.com/2022/09/10/flexible-radiation-monitoring-system-speaks-lora-and-wifi/ | Source: Hackaday
[08:53]	TR Bot	Radiation Monitoring System Speaks LoRa And WiFi | Hackaday
[08:54]	TR News	"Mathematical transforms can be a great help in understanding signals." https://hackaday.com/2022/09/10/understanding-wavelets/ | Source: Hackaday
[08:54]	TR Bot	Wavelets | Hackaday
[08:55]	TR News	Rotary https://hackaday.com/2022/09/10/the-open-source-rotary-cell-phone-two-years-later/ | Source: Hackaday
[08:55]	TR Bot	Open Source Rotary Cell Phone, Two Years Later | Hackaday
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[09:04]	TR News	Farmworkers https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/10/farmworker-speaks-truth-power-washington | Source: Common Dreams
[09:04]	TR Bot	 Opinion | A Farmworker Speaks Truth to Power in Washington | Sarah Anderson
[09:06]	TR News	"The trend for cyberdecks has brought us many takes on the home-made portable computers" https://hackaday.com/2022/09/10/2022-cyberdeck-contest-the-folding-mini-deck/ | Source: Hackaday
[09:06]	TR Bot	Cyberdeck Contest: The Folding Mini-Deck | Hackaday
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[09:07]	TR News	"Any software that accepts user input must take some effort to sanitize incoming data" https://hackaday.com/2022/09/10/the-big-list-of-naughty-strings-helps-find-those-user-input-problems/ | Source: Hackaday
[09:07]	TR Bot	Big List Of Naughty Strings Helps Find Those User Input Problems | Hackaday
[09:07]	TR News	"We recently posted a video where some ingenious metal-shop hackers made a simple jig to create zig-zag oil grooves" https://hackaday.com/2022/09/10/who-is-responsible-for-your-safety/ | Source: Hackaday
[09:07]	TR Bot	Is Responsible For Your Safety? | Hackaday
[09:09]	TR News	On copyrights https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2022/09/08/why-copyright-is-a-bad-fit-for-the-internet-age/ | Source: Dallas News
[09:09]	TR Bot	 Why copyright is a bad fit for the internet age
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[09:09]	TR News	[Old] "In an early sign that this trial would scar publishings romantic image" https://www.vox.com/culture/23316541/publishing-antitrust-lawsuit-merger-department-justice-penguin-random-house-simon-schuster | Source: Vox
[09:09]	TR Bot	antitrust trial of Penguin Random House and Simon & Schuster, explained - Vox
[09:13]	TR News	"The latest Raspberry Pi OS release saw a beta of Network Manager, a tool new to the Raspberry Pi that replaces dhcpcd as a means to manage networking on the Pi." https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/raspberry-pi-access-point | Source: Tom's Hardware
[09:13]	TR Bot	 How to Turn a Raspberry Pi Into a Wi-Fi Access Point | Tom's Hardware
[09:15]	TR News	"That said, at the time in the mid noughties this greytrapping setup was announced, we had been battling scammy spam email and malicious software that also abused email to spread for some years" https://nxdomain.no/~peter/spammers_believe_in_300k_imaginary_friends.html |
[09:15]	TR Bot	 That grumpy BSD guy: The Things Spammers Believe - A Tale of 300,000 Imaginary Friends
[09:15]	TR News	"When I migrated my web server to OpenBSD some months ago (finally!) I decided to move from cgit to gotwebd too" https://www.omarpolo.com/post/gotwebd-behind-nginx.html | Source: Omar Polo
[09:15]	TR Bot	 Running gotwebd behind nginx
[09:16]	TR News	"There is potential in this OS, but it needs to work a bit harder on its outreach." https://liam-on-linux.dreamwidth.org/86277.html | Source: Liam Proven
[09:16]	TR Bot	 liam_on_linux | A fresh look at FreeBSD
[09:17]	TR News	IRC Proceedings: Saturday, September 10, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/11/irc-log-100922/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/11/irc-log-100922/
[09:17]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Saturday, September 10, 2022 | Techrights
[09:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[09:22]	TR News	"As is the usual way of things, the monthly Activity Report is hereby combined with my Contract Report" https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/waddlesplash/2022-09-09_haiku_activity_contract_report_august_2022/ | Source: HaikuOS
[09:22]	TR Bot	 Haiku Activity & Contract Report, August 2022 | Haiku Project
[09:23]	TR News	"All variants of the Open Source Hardware Linux computer A64-OLinuXino now are back in stock!" https://olimex.wordpress.com/2022/09/06/a64-olinuxino-open-source-hardware-linux-computer-is-back-in-stock/ | Source: Olimex
[09:23]	TR Bot	 A64-OLinuXino Open Source Hardware Linux computer is back in stock | olimex
[09:23]	TR News	"I have merged the first WebSockets take into the curl master branch." https://bagder.github.io/log/ |
[09:23]	TR Bot	 Daniels weekly report | log
[09:23]	TR News	"Is this string really a legitimate URL? What is a URL? How is it parsed?" https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/09/08/http-http-http-http-http-http-http/ | Source: Daniel Stenberg
[09:23]	TR Bot	 daniel.haxx.se
[09:24]	TR News	[Old] "Contra Chrome" https://contrachrome.com/comic/page01/ |
[09:24]	TR Bot	 Contra Chrome a webcomic
[09:24]	TR News	"SQLite as a database Fossil uses SQLite as a database instead of Git's object model." https://matt-rickard.com/sqlite-doesnt-use-git | Source: Matt Rickard
[09:24]	TR Bot	 SQLite Doesn't Use Git
[09:26]	TR News	"What I do appreciate that's missing from many other languages and systems is the extreme committment to backwards compatibility." https://brianlovin.com/hn/32767218 |
[09:26]	TR Bot	 Not Your Grandfathers Perl
[09:26]	TR News	[Old] "CPAN was the first open-source software module repository." https://corecursive.com/tdih-cpan/ | Source: CoRecursive
[09:26]	TR Bot	This Day In History - CoRecursive Podcast
[09:26]	TR News	 (NEW): 10 Destructive Linux Commands You Should Never Run http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/10_Destructive_Linux_Commands_You_Should_Never_Run.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/10_Destructive_Linux_Commands_You_Should_Never_Run.gmi 
[09:26]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines 10 Destructive Linux Commands You Should Never Run
[09:29]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/today_s_howtos.1.gmi 
[09:29]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[09:30]	TR News	How to Avoid Overfitting? https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/09/how-to-avoid-overfitting/ | Source: Rlang
[09:30]	TR Bot	to Avoid Overfitting? | R-bloggers
[09:32]	TR News	"POSIX has become the standard for operating systems abstractions and interfaces over the decades." https://www.usenix.org/publications/loginonline/transcending-posix-end-era | Source: USENIX
[09:32]	TR Bot	 Transcending POSIX: The End of an Era? | USENIX
[09:33]	TR News	"The National Academy of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine report released Friday warned some Iridium Communications mobile satellite services" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/internet/pentagon-warns-of-gps-interference-from-ligado-broadband-network/94109428 | Source: India Times
[09:33]	TR Bot	 Ligado: Pentagon warns of GPS interference from Ligado broadband network, CIO News, ET CIO
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[09:36]	TR News	Accessibility, Jitsi, IRC, Element-Desktop https://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2022/09/11/politics-accessibility-books/
[09:36]	TR Bot	 Politics, accessibility, books Experiences in the community
[09:43]	TR News	 (NEW): MiTubo 1.3: sorting of QML ListView via Drag-Drop http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/MiTubo_1_3_sorting_of_QML_ListView_via_Drag_Drop.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/MiTubo_1_3_sorting_of_QML_ListView_via_Drag_Drop.gmi 
[09:43]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines MiTubo 1.3: sorting of QML ListView via Drag-Drop
[09:44]	TR News	Sipeed MetaSense RGB ToF 3D depth cameras are made for MCUs - ROS Robots (Crowfunding) - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/11/sipeed-metasense-rgb-tof-3d-depth-cameras-mcus-ros-robots/ Source: CNX Software
[09:44]	TR Bot	 Sipeed MetaSense RGB ToF 3D depth cameras are made for MCUs & ROS Robots (Crowfunding) - CNX Software
[09:45]	TR News	 (NEW): Standards/Consortia: Accessibility, UNIX, and GPS http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Standards_Consortia_Accessibility_UNIX_and_GPS.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Standards_Consortia_Accessibility_UNIX_and_GPS.gmi 
[09:45]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Standards/Consortia: Accessibility, UNIX, and GPS
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[09:47]	TR News	"Khadas is launching an upgraded version of its VIM1 SBC Arm-powered SBC, which launched in 2016. The new VIM1S, as reported by CNX Software (opens in new tab), is a low-powered board that could still give the Raspberry Pi 4 (opens in new tab) a run for its money in the low-power computing sector." https://www.tomshardware.com/news/khadas-vim2-low-power-board-refreshed
[09:47]	TR Bot	 Khadas VIM1S Low-Power SBC Gets Processor Refresh | Tom's Hardware
[09:49]	TR News	If I speak I am in big troubleand I don't want to be in big trouble." https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5d3yyq/the-chess-world-is-absolutely-losing-it-over-cheating-allegations-after-massive-upset
[09:49]	TR Bot	 The Chess World Is Absolutely Losing It Over Cheating Allegations After Massive Upset
[09:50]	TR News	Radxa Lifts Lid on Eight-core Compute Module To Take On Raspberry Pi | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/radxa-compute-module-takes-on-raspberry-pi Source: Tom's Hardware | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tomshardware.com/news/radxa-compute-module-takes-on-raspberry-pi
[09:50]	TR Bot	 Radxa Lifts Lid on Eight-core Compute Module To Take On Raspberry Pi | Tom's Hardware
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[09:53]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, Radxa, Khadas, Arduino, and More
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[10:00]	TR News	"This weeks BSD Now includes a link to depenguin.me, a way to install BSD using a rescue boot environment, which is going to come in handy for someone reading this. I know Ive linked to it before." https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2022/09/08/27366.html
[10:00]	TR Bot	 BSD Now 471: De-Penguinization DragonFly BSD Digest
[10:00]	TR News	 (NEW): Sharing Dual-Licensed Drivers between Linux and FreeBSD http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Sharing_Dual_Licensed_Drivers_between_Linux_and_FreeBSD.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Sharing_Dual_Licensed_Drivers_between_Linux_and_FreeBSD.gmi 
[10:00]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Sharing Dual-Licensed Drivers between Linux and FreeBSD
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[10:03]	TR News	Microsofters portrayed as security experts; they put BACK DOORS in things! https://siliconangle.com/2022/09/06/major-security-bugs-long-term-threat-heres-whats-next-rhsummit/
[10:03]	TR Bot	security bugs are a long-term threat: Here's why and what's next - SiliconANGLE
[10:03]	TR News	Proprietary software https://siliconangle.com/2022/09/05/google-rolls-update-high-severity-vulnerability-chrome/
[10:03]	TR Bot	rolls out update for high-severity vulnerability in Chrome - SiliconANGLE
[10:04]	TR News	But these devices themselves re vulnerable https://www.cyberscoop.com/navigate-path-to-passwordless-authentication/
[10:04]	TR Bot	the path to passwordless authentication - CyberScoop
[10:05]	TR News	Quake 1 port to Apple Watch https://gizmodo.com/play-quake-apple-watch-port-series-5-8-ultra-doom-fps-i-1849510303
[10:05]	TR Bot	 Quake Ported to Apple Watch in Stunning Doom Snub
[10:09]	TR News	 (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Security_Leftovers.gmi 
[10:09]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
[10:10]	TR News	"My binoculars are not powerful enough to actually view the disc, but the brightness of it certainly was attention-getting. The brightness is not well-captured in Stellarium, but this gives you an idea of the position of it..." gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20220910-0.gmi
[10:15]	TR News	 (NEW): Games: Doom, Quake, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Games_Doom_Quake_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Games_Doom_Quake_and_More.gmi 
[10:15]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Games: Doom, Quake, and More
[10:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[10:33]	TR News	 (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Programming_Leftovers.gmi 
[10:33]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[10:33]	TR News	 (NEW): Haiku Activity Report and BSDs Catchup http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Haiku_Activity_Report_and_BSDs_Catchup.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Haiku_Activity_Report_and_BSDs_Catchup.gmi 
[10:33]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Haiku Activity Report and BSDs Catchup
[10:40]	TR News	Links 11/09/2022: MiTubo 1.3 and Haiku Activity Report | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/11/mitubo-1-3/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/11/mitubo-1-3/
[10:40]	TR Bot	 Links 11/09/2022: MiTubo 1.3 and Haiku Activity Report | Techrights
[10:43]	TR News	Ruario's Journal [extract]: Penny 'splaining gemini://ruario.flounder.online/journal-extract-2022-09-11-1053.gmi
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[10:49]	TR News	"Opponents of the current student debt forgiveness proposal" https://www.teenvogue.com/story/student-loan-forgiveness-critics | Source: Teen Vogue
[10:49]	TR Bot	 Student Loan Forgiveness Critics Are Wrong About Who Benefits and Why | Teen Vogue
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[10:50]	TR News	"In this wobbly economic moment, I thought that sharing the best actual-career advice Ive come across might be marginally useful." https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/09/career-ambition-advice-data/671374/?utm_source=feed | Source: The Atlantic
[10:50]	TR Bot	 Your Career Is Just One-Eighth of Your Life - The Atlantic
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[11:04]	TR News	"How the polarizing effect of social media is speeding up" https://text.npr.org/1121295499 | Source: NPR
[11:04]	TR Bot	 How the polarizing effect of social media is speeding up
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[11:04]	TR News	"cryptocurrency donation to the university is a $300,000 gift from Balvi" https://news.asu.edu/20220815-asu-receives-first-cryptocurrency-gift-support-clean-air-work |
[11:04]	TR Bot	 ASU receives 1st cryptocurrency gift to support clean air work | ASU News
[11:05]	TR News	"Using smartphones for longer intervals of time changes brain chemistry." https://techjury.net/blog/smartphone-addiction-statistics/ |
[11:05]	TR Bot	 51+ Scary Smartphone Addiction Statistics for 2022
[11:06]	TR News	[Old] "At least 4 of the following signs and symptoms are thought to comprise criteria for cell phone addiction" https://www.psychguides.com/behavioral-disorders/cell-phone-addiction/signs-and-symptoms/ |
[11:06]	TR Bot	and Symptoms of Cell Phone Addiction - PsychGuides.com
[11:06]	TR News	[Old] "The same rules apply on computer and mobile-based social media sites" https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/more-tech-support/201403/the-new-skinner-box-web-and-mobile-analytics | Source: Psychology Today
[11:06]	TR Bot	 The New Skinner Box: Web and Mobile Analytics | Psychology Today
[11:06]	TR News	"I know that social media may potentially mess me up" https://medium.com/skilluped/the-psychology-behind-the-urge-to-check-your-phone-65b99793e616 | Source: Medium
[11:06]	TR Bot	Psychology Behind the Urge to Check Your Phone | by Victoria Bondarchuk | SkillUp Ed | Medium
[11:07]	TR News	[Old] "We're entering the age of Skinnerian Marketing" https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/06/skinner-marketing-were-the-rats-and-facebook-likes-are-the-reward/276613/ | Source: The Atlantic
[11:07]	TR Bot	 Skinner Marketing: We're the Rats, and Facebook Likes Are the Reward - The Atlantic
[11:07]	TR News	[Old] "When the animal pushes the button or lever, the box is able to deliver a positive reinforcement" https://www.simplypsychology.org/what-is-a-skinner-box.html |
[11:07]	TR Bot	 Skinner Box: What Is an Operant Conditioning Chamber?
[11:08]	TR News	"[...] This study is one of the first ones that assess the interplay between the two formation mechanisms in the extant literature on smartphone addiction." https://ouci.dntb.gov.ua/en/works/98zg3Ej4/ |
[11:08]	TR Bot	 OUCI
[11:09]	TR News	[Old] "Evidence supports predictive roles of non-social smartphone use for smartphone addiction" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8858819/ | Source: NIH
[11:09]	TR Bot	 A Double-Edged Impact of Social Smartphone Use on Smartphone Addiction: A Parallel Mediation Model - PMC
[11:09]	TR News	[Old] "The signs and symptoms of smartphone addiction are similar to those of other addictions such as compulsive gambling" https://onlinedegrees.unr.edu/blog/smartphone-addiction/ |
[11:09]	TR Bot	 Smartphone Addiction: How Technology Affects Public Health | University of Nevada, Reno
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[11:12]	TR News	Windows TCO https://www.voanews.com/a/ukraine-warns-russian-cyber-onslaught-is-coming-/6738800.html | Source: VOA News
[11:12]	TR Bot	 Ukraine Warns Russian Cyber Onslaught Is Coming
[11:12]	TR News	"Generative machine learning models have made convincing voice synthesis a reality." https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity22/presentation/blue | Source: USENIX
[11:12]	TR Bot	 Who Are You (I Really Wanna Know)? Detecting Audio DeepFakes Through Vocal Tract Reconstruction | USENIX
[11:13]	TR News	"Nearly all art functions in just a single direction by allowing the viewer to admire its beauty, creativity, and construction." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/09/09/this-piece-of-art-knows-when-its-being-photographed-thanks-to-tinyml/ | Source: Arduino
[11:13]	TR Bot	 This piece of art knows when it's being photographed thanks to tinyML | Arduino Blog
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[11:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[11:21]	TR News	"The lawsuit, filed on August 29, is part of a broader push for stronger limits" https://www.fastcompany.com/90786950/a-showdown-between-an-ad-tech-firm-and-the-ftc-will-test-the-limits-of-u-s-privacy-law | Source: Fast Company
[11:21]	TR Bot	 Kochavas FTC feud reveals eerie truths about geo-privacy
[11:21]	TR News	"Upon reading this guide, we hope you will feel empowered to contribute to test lists!" https://ooni.org/support/test-lists-editor | Source: OONI
[11:21]	TR Bot	 User Guide: OONI Test Lists Editor | OONI
[11:21]	TR News	"I think that some type of ankle bracelet should be used to monitor where a person is moving around." https://yle.fi/news/3-12618244 | Source: YLE
[11:21]	TR Bot	 Stricter enforcement of restraining orders likely in 2023 | News | Yle Uutiset
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[11:43]	TR News	"they were aware of the risks" https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/investor-lawsuit-against-solarwinds-over-breach-dismissed.html | Source: IT Wire
[11:43]	TR Bot	- Investor lawsuit against SolarWinds over breach dismissed
[11:43]	TR News	"VPN adoption has seen steady growth over the past decade due to increased public awareness of privacy and surveillance threats." https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity22/presentation/xue-diwen | Source: USENIX
[11:43]	TR Bot	 OpenVPN is Open to VPN Fingerprinting | USENIX
[11:46]	techuser	highest_cubist_thrills: I did say that I did sign anti-RMS letter as well as reasons why I did it, actually
[11:47]	techuser	I don't like the big FSF company/organization/whatever it is called. It makes me think it is corrupt.
[11:49]	schestowitz[TR]	techuser: what do you suggest as an alternative to FSF?
[11:49]	schestowitz[TR]	functions needed:
[11:49]	schestowitz[TR]	support gnu project
[11:49]	schestowitz[TR]	provide hosting
[11:49]	schestowitz[TR]	licence authorship
[11:49]	schestowitz[TR]	licence enforcement
[11:49]	schestowitz[TR]	advocacy
[11:49]	schestowitz[TR]	among others
[11:50]	techuser	could be done by volunteers, except there are too few real volunteers
[11:50]	techuser	most people want money
[11:51]	TR News	Confidentiality: "We investigate how a population of end-users with especially salient security and privacy" https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity21/presentation/mcdonald | Source: USENIX
[11:51]	TR Bot	 "It's stressful having all these phones": Investigating Sex Workers' Safety Goals, Risks, and Practices Online | USENIX
[11:51]	schestowitz[TR]	techuser: many at fsf are volunteers
[11:51]	schestowitz[TR]	the core structure is salaried
[11:55]	loner	i decided to freeze and terminate
[11:55]	TR News	"Ive seen some mediocre automated translations of my Dutch language resignation statement go round" https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/resignation-as-intelligence-regulator/ | Source: Bert Hubert
[11:55]	TR Bot	 On my resignation as regulator of the Dutch intelligence and security services - Bert Hubert's writings
[11:56]	schestowitz[TR]	loner:  https://yewtu.be/watch?v=grzObtNOIX0
[11:56]	TR Bot	 Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) - Fire and Ice - Invidious
[11:57]	schestowitz[TR]	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=osWdm3t1BEU
[11:57]	TR Bot	 Terminator T-1000 Frozen breaking down recreation scene - Invidious
[11:57]	loner	i don't blame FSF or RMS or GNU
[11:58]	loner	if they really pushed towards free software by the definition of it, almost the entire user-base and industry support was lost
[11:59]	techuser	ok, so they will instead let corporations take over them and make it all irrelevant
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[12:00]	loner	the line drawn down to "free hardware" too seems mostly arbitrary, which benefits those corporations
[12:00]	loner	and is harmful to free software itself
[12:01]	TR News	"Twitter did not seek Defendants consent before making this payment nor was this payment disclosed to Defendants" https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/elon-musk-twitter-severance-payment-whistleblower-1235367085/ | Source: Variety
[12:01]	TR Bot	Musk: Twitter $7.75M Severance Payment to Fired Exec Nixes Deal - Variety
[12:01]	techuser	free software will be destroyed by evil hardware I think
[12:01]	techuser	"secure boot" and whatever
[12:01]	TR News	"Last month, Zatko made headlines by accusing Twitter of misleading investors about the number of bots on the service" https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/9/23345286/elon-musk-twitter-third-termination-notice-letter-deal-acquisition | Source: The Verge
[12:01]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk sends a third notice to Twitter and the SEC to end the deal - The Verge
[12:01]	loner	vendor/ISA-specific assembly, the compiler, the toolchain, the entire build-system (GNU autotools)... i lost hope for any of this
[12:02]	TR News	US TAXPAYERS BAILING OUT FAILING COMPANIES! (Reward for failure) "Intel had previously delayed the plants July groundbreaking ceremony because its plans largely relied on funding from the CHIPS Act," https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/9/23344834/semiconductor-joe-biden-ohio-intel-gelsinger-chips-science-subsidies | Source: The Verge
[12:02]	TR Bot	 President Joe Biden speaks after groundbreaking for Intels $20 billion semiconductor plant - The Verge
[12:02]	TR News	"The website Downdetector, which notes when various websites are experiencing issues" https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3635801-twitter-outages-across-us-sparked-by-social-media-frenzy-following-queens-death/ | Source: The Hill
[12:02]	TR Bot	 Twitter outages across US sparked by social media frenzy following Queens death | The Hill
[12:03]	loner	apropos Intel... remember this, i couldn't at least afford some tiniest office and lab space in my _own_ homeland
[12:03]	schestowitz[TR]	ask bailout biden for money
[12:03]	loner	all of the sudden, Intel sneaks around, and politicians dumb billions into this
[12:03]	loner	*dump
[12:04]	TR News	"The underlying bill would grant newsrooms that employ fewer than 1,500 full-time employees" https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/overnights/3635038-hillicon-valley-klobuchar-pulls-committee-vote-on-tech-bill/ | Source: The Hill
[12:04]	TR Bot	 Hillicon Valley Klobuchar pulls committee vote on tech bill | The Hill
[12:04]	loner	same with IBM and other such Pentagon entities who usurped the economy
[12:04]	schestowitz[TR]	you just need some lobbyists in berlin
[12:05]	schestowitz[TR]	something about "too big to fai;"
[12:05]	schestowitz[TR]	and "threat of china'
[12:05]	schestowitz[TR]	and bloop! tens fof billions is your ledger
[12:05]	schestowitz[TR]	from the atxpayers (debt)
[12:05]	schestowitz[TR]	causing further inflation
[12:05]	schestowitz[TR]	devaluing the currency
[12:05]	schestowitz[TR]	which is what paper-printing does (money)
[12:05]	schestowitz[TR]	so inflation is another 'hidden tax' for bailout of the oligarchs and corporations
[12:06]	schestowitz[TR]	food must be expenses because the gov. feeds only the rich
[12:07]	schestowitz[TR]	capitalism works because taxpayers chip in and tighten their belts :-
[12:07]	schestowitz[TR]	happened in 2008 for Big Banks
[12:07]	schestowitz[TR]	now Tech Companies toooo
[12:07]	loner	well, yes, those two "currency reforms" were combined with exactly this, expropriations, former east-german scientific and economic companies transferred into a "trust fund"
[12:07]	schestowitz[TR]	"national security"... "sorry, classified"... don't interfere
[12:07]	loner	and excess inflations
[12:08]	loner	i consider this _economic_ warfare, and those responsible war criminals
[12:08]	schestowitz[TR]	[throw in some pseduso-0scientific ecnonomic jargon]
[12:08]	schestowitz[TR]	like "quantitive easing"
[12:08]	schestowitz[TR]	"you don't understand, Michael"
[12:08]	schestowitz[TR]	"stay out of it"
[12:09]	schestowitz[TR]	*quantitative easing
[12:09]	schestowitz[TR]	Quantitative tightening too
[12:09]	schestowitz[TR]	they make it up
[12:09]	schestowitz[TR]	lik e a religion
[12:09]	loner	even if, the entire accounting is fraudulent
[12:09]	schestowitz[TR]	and award people who read out the screed
[12:09]	loner	recently, the energy sector is the most remarkable, to have a look at
[12:10]	loner	the highest level of intellect currently: energy which doesn't exist, shall be saved, prices increased for, taxation increased for, and consumption lowered
[12:10]	TR News	"The union was voluntarily recognized after a card check took place on Friday afternoon" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/conde-nast-union-voluntarily-recognized-1235215911/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter
[12:10]	TR Bot	 Conde Nast Union Voluntarily Recognized The Hollywood Reporter
[12:10]	TR News	"This video makes it clear that these officers decided they were going to arrest Pastor Jennings" https://text.npr.org/1121857070 | Source: NPR
[12:10]	TR Bot	 A Black pastor sues the police who arrested him while watering his neighbors' flowers
[12:10]	loner	however... the energy they wish-thinked with their solar panels and wind-turbines, doesn't exist
[12:10]	loner	it's all subsidy fraud and scam
[12:11]	loner	even when sun is shining and wind is blowing, there isn't almost none, "renewable energy"
[12:11]	loner	that's their latest one, gas prices in germany are 8x higher than in USA currently
[12:11]	TR News	"ETNO, Europe's lobby for telecoms operators, said in a report in May that more than half of the global network traffic is attributable to six firms" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/eu-to-consult-on-making-big-tech-contribute-to-telco-network-costs/94109384 | Source: India Times
[12:11]	TR Bot	 netflix: EU to consult on making Big Tech contribute to telco network costs, CIO News, ET CIO
[12:12]	TR News	[Old] "I agree with ClownFlare's analogy, the fire department should respond to a fire at any home" https://rasbora.dev/blog/I-ran-the-worlds-largest-ddos-for-hire-empire-and-cloudflare-helped |
[12:12]	TR Bot	 I ran the worlds largest DDoS-for-Hire empire and CloudFlare helped
[12:13]	TR News	"His complaint accuses Apple and Google of "completely inhibit(ing) competition" by "taking advantage of their monopoly in app stores to tie use of their own payment processing systems for in-app purchases."" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/google-apple-facing-anti-competitive-complaint-in-mexico/94109393 | Source: India Times
[12:13]	TR Bot	 Apple: Google, Apple facing anti-competitive complaint in Mexico, CIO News, ET CIO
[12:15]	TR News	68: Photonic Super Computers Are Here! We Discuss This Radical Shift In Technology - Hardware Addicts - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/hardware-addicts/ha-68/ Source: Tux Digital | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//tuxdigital.com/podcasts/hardware-addicts/ha-68/
[12:15]	TR Bot	Photonic Super Computers Are Here! We Discuss This Radical Shift In Technology - Hardware Addicts - TuxDigital
[12:15]	TR News	213: Linux From Scratch, Blender, WINE Bottles, Steam Deck, Ubuntu Gaming and more Linux news! - This Week in Linux - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-213/ Source: Tux Digital | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-213/
[12:15]	TR Bot	Linux From Scratch, Blender, WINE Bottles, Steam Deck, Ubuntu Gaming and more Linux news! - This Week in Linux - TuxDigital
[12:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[12:20]	TR News	Introducing Nils, Our New Team Member - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/introducing-nils-our-new-team-member/ Source: Boiling Steam | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//boilingsteam.com/introducing-nils-our-new-team-member/
[12:20]	TR Bot	 Introducing Nils, Our New Team Member - Boiling Steam
[12:26]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/today_s_howtos.2.gmi 
[12:26]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
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[12:33]	TR News	Daily-Driving the PinePhone gemini://blog.schmidhuberj.de/2022/09/11/daily-driving-the-pinephone/
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[12:44]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Gemini Articles of Interest
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[12:56]	TR News	[RFC PATCH 00/10] Apple M1 Pro/Max/Ultra device trees - Janne Grunau https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220909135103.98179-1-j@jannau.net/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220909135103.98179-1-j@jannau.net/
[12:56]	TR Bot	 [RFC PATCH 00/10] Apple M1 Pro/Max/Ultra device trees - Janne Grunau
[12:56]	TR News	 (NEW): FLAC 1.4.0 released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/FLAC_1_4_0_released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/FLAC_1_4_0_released.gmi 
[12:56]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines FLAC 1.4.0 released
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[13:01]	TR News	[patch RFC 00/29] printk: A new approach - WIP - Thomas Gleixner https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220910221947.171557773@linutronix.de/
[13:01]	TR Bot	 [patch RFC 00/29] printk: A new approach - WIP - Thomas Gleixner
[13:03]	TR News	Intel is trying to optimise for PARTICULAR applications. Seems like a totally flawed approach, more bloat assured. Like different code for different hardware and software!!! https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/articles/technical/onevpl-in-ffmpeg-for-great-streaming-on-intel-gpus.html
[13:03]	TR Bot	Support Added to FFMPEG for Great Streaming on Intel GPUs
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[13:10]	TR News	Linux Around The World: USA - Tennessee - LinuxLinks <p class="dropcap-first"> <a class="readon" title="Linux Links" href="https://www.linuxlinks.com/linux-usa-tennessee/">Read on</a>
[13:10]	TR Bot	Around The World: USA - Tennessee - LinuxLinks
[13:11]	TR News	"Tennessee is a state in the Southeastern region of the United States. It is bordered by Kentucky to the north, Virginia to the northeast, North Carolina to the east, Georgia, Alabama, and Mississippi to the south, Arkansas to the southwest, and Missouri to the northwest." https://www.linuxlinks.com/linux-usa-tennessee/
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[13:26]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: https://youtu.be/0fZ-r5Qe3tM <- That's a long video.
[13:26]	TR Bot	https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=0fZ-r5Qe3tM
[13:26]	TR Bot	inv.riverside.rocks | This Video Caused An International Incident! - Invidious
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[13:32]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
[13:33]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/today_s_leftovers.gmi 
[13:33]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
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[13:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	<techuser> free software will be destroyed by evil hardware I think <- free software is mitigated by evil hardware
[13:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	free software is destroyed by apathy and fake progress
[13:37]	techuser	also agreed
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[13:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	evil hardware is a threat, which is why free software must also have free hardware
[13:37]	TR News	Links 11/09/2022: FLAC 1.4.0 and Twitter Gives Whistle-Blower $7.75 Million Hush Money | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/11/flac-1-4-0/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/11/flac-1-4-0/
[13:37]	TR Bot	 Links 11/09/2022: FLAC 1.4.0 and Twitter Gives Whistle-Blower $7.75 Million Hush Money | Techrights
[13:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	fortunately some people realise that, like leah
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[13:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	its too bad stallman doesnt see it
[13:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	stallman does see it, slightly. but he argues against the idea about as much as he sees the need
[13:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	like "yes, someday, but not today"
[13:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats sort of like saying "we will defend ourselves after they kill us". but thats the part he DOESNT see
[13:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	computer chips are being fabricated in carparks by hobbyists
[13:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	the time for free hardware to matter is now
[13:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	it will only be more difficult later. why would later be better then? the answer is stallman is wrong
[13:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	i can tell you who also thinks later is better (for arbitrary, non-reasons)
[13:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	but it would make no difference to say 
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[13:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	since free software is a dead movement, free hardware might as well rise imo
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[13:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	however, free hardware will someday (and once again, today is better than someday) realise that they still need free software
[13:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	a lot of people will think, incorrectly, that if the hardware is free the software neednt be, because hardware trumps software
[13:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	this is the same mistake stallman makes today, but from the other side of it
[13:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	so yeah, free hardware will still need free software
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[13:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	leah knows that, so in a very technical and specific way, leah is smarter than stallman
[13:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	but thats tongue in cheek. i still think stallman is one of the smartest people who ever lived
[13:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	(just also in a specific way)
[13:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	leah is smart as hell too
[13:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	the comparison is not full on, but its not a joke, i admire both
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[13:46]	loner	highest_cubist_thrills: what leah is involved with isn't "free hardware"
[13:46]	loner	it's free firmware
[13:46]	loner	important difference
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[13:46]	loner	free firmware too is important of cause
[13:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	either way, the free software movement is dead
[13:47]	techuser	free firmware works *right now*
[13:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	hopefully it will be brought back someday
[13:47]	techuser	it won't work a few decades later
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[13:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	<techuser> free firmware works *right now*
[13:47]	loner	freedom of choice is dead
[13:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	barely
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[13:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	but sure, yeah
[13:48]	techuser	when nothing of fake progress runs on those ThinkPads anymore
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[13:48]	techuser	like web browsers or systemd
[13:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean
[13:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	im wary of leahs approach to firmware
[13:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	cautious is an even better word
[13:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	its unorthodox, but more importantly, its mixed and a compromise
[13:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	however
[13:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	the orthodox approach is likely to fail, but it probably has already
[13:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	open source was a compromise for the sake of compromise, posing as a needed one
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[13:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	im very open to the idea that leahs approach to firmware is (possibly) and actually needed
[13:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	open source came well before peak software freedom was reached
[13:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	leahs approach may come after peak free firmware was reached
[13:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats a very important difference
[13:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	leahs approach is an effort to solve a real problem
[13:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	open source is a bicycle for fish
[13:52]	TR News	The C++ memory leak detector no one told me about | address sanitizer - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Ce6xF8ByOKY | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/Ce6xF8ByOKY
[13:52]	TR Bot	 The C++ memory leak detector no one told me about | address sanitizer - Invidious
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[14:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[14:27]	MinceR	attack surface
[14:34]	XRevan86	https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/11/zaporizhzhia-nuclear-plant-shut-down-news "Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant shut down"
[14:34]	TR Bot	 . 
[14:41]	loner	seems slightly outdated news, recent live-ticker reported Zaporizhzhia was re-connected to the power-grid
[14:42]	XRevan86	I'm a few hours behind on the news, let me check.
[14:47]	XRevan86	loner: Ye are correct.
[14:47]	XRevan86	IAEA reported that it's been reconnected.
[14:52]	schestowitz[TR]	surface-to-surface attack surface
[14:52]	schestowitz[TR]	aka shelling
[14:53]	schestowitz[TR]	$ sh Zaporizhzhia.sh
[14:55]	TR News	How strongly does German electricity demand react to high prices? https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/09/how-strongly-does-german-electricity-demand-react-to-high-prices/
[14:55]	TR Bot	strongly does German electricity demand react to high prices? | R-bloggers
[14:55]	TR News	Beneath and Beyond the Cox Model - R Views https://rviews.rstudio.com/2022/09/06/deep-survival/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//rviews.rstudio.com/2022/09/06/deep-survival/
[14:55]	TR Bot	 Beneath and Beyond the Cox Model R Views
[14:56]	TR News	"GSoC 2022 is nearing its end so here is the final report on my project, which aims at adding more XFS file system support on Haiku." https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/mashijams/2022-09-09_gsoc_2022_xfs__final_report/
[14:56]	TR Bot	 [GSoC 2022] XFS : Final Report | Haiku Project
[14:58]	TR News	"Imagine if your smart speaker could be trained to recognize your accent"... sounds like listening devices https://staceyoniot.com/can-tinyml-really-provide-on-device-learning/
[14:58]	TR Bot	 Can TinyML really provide on-device learning? - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
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[15:01]	TR News	"The R Consortium recently interviewed John Blischak and Tim Hoolihan with the Cleveland R UseR Group. The organizers share more about how the group managed to continue to grow with consistent structured and casual virtual events like their Virtual R Caf." https://www.r-consortium.org/blog/2022/09/08/taking-on-virtual-events-cleveland-r
[15:01]	TR Bot	 Taking on Virtual Events with Regular Structured and Casual Meetups - R Consortium
[15:08]	TR News	Ethereum Founders Huge 2040 Bitcoin And Crypto Crash Price Prediction https://www.forbes.com/sites/billybambrough/2022/09/04/ethereum-founders-huge-2040-bitcoin-and-crypto-crash-price-prediction/
[15:08]	TR Bot	 Ethereum Founders Huge 2040 Bitcoin And Crypto Crash Price Prediction
[15:10]	TR News	Proprietary https://www.computing.co.uk/news/4056075/cisa-warns-active-exploitation-chrome-link-flaws
[15:10]	TR Bot	 Chrome, D-Link flaws actively exploited: CISA
[15:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[15:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	<MinceR> attack surface <- when you go to install debian and its like sitting on a tack
[15:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats a tack surface
[15:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zq7Eki5EZ8o
[15:26]	TR Bot	 "Weird Al" Yankovic - Tacky - Invidious
[15:26]	TR News	CILTOPM Wordo: UNSEW gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-09-11.gmi
[15:27]	TR News	" .... Facebooks stonewalling has been revealing on its own, providing variations on the same theme: It has amassed so much data on so many billions of people and organized it so confusingly that full transparency is impossible on a technical level." https://eponymouspickle.blogspot.com/2022/09/what-data-does-faceook-have.html
[15:27]	TR Bot	 The Eponymous Pickle: What Data Does Facebook Have?
[15:28]	TR News	Canada Is Working On the Worlds Largest Geothermal Solar Lagoon https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/339386-canada-is-working-on-the-worlds-largest-geothermal-solar-lagoon
[15:28]	TR Bot	Is Working On the World's Largest Geothermal Solar Lagoon - ExtremeTech
[15:28]	TR News	DeepMind AI learns to play soccer using decades of match simulations https://www.newscientist.com/article/2336132-deepmind-ai-learns-to-play-soccer-using-decades-of-match-simulations/
[15:28]	TR Bot	 DeepMind AI learns to play soccer using decades of match simulations | New Scientist
[15:29]	TR News	"A hacking device can be placed under a table and use electromagnetic signals to mimic human touch on nearby touchscreens. It could then be used to secretly download malware or send money" https://www.newscientist.com/article/2335970-hacking-device-can-secretly-swipe-and-tap-your-smartphone-screen/
[15:29]	TR Bot	 Hacking device can secretly swipe and tap your smartphone screen | New Scientist
[15:30]	TR News	Railroads Reverse Years of Streamlining to Improve Freight Service | SupplyChainBrain https://www.supplychainbrain.com/articles/35637-railroads-reverse-years-of-streamlining-to-improve-freight-service | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.supplychainbrain.com/articles/35637-railroads-reverse-years-of-streamlining-to-improve-freight-service
[15:30]	TR Bot	Reverse Years of Streamlining to Improve Freight Service | SupplyChainBrain
[15:31]	TR News	"Graphing California Electricity Supply using ggplot2 during record temperatures 9/05/2022 - 09/09/2022; Raw data from CA ISO. Data is available in 5 minute increments for each 24 hour period." https://blog.alpha-analysis.com/2022/09/graphing-california-electricity-supply.html
[15:31]	TR Bot	 Data Science, Machine Learning and Predictive Analytics: Graphing California Electricity Supply using ggplot2
[15:32]	TR News	Cops wanted to keep mass surveillance app secret; privacy advocates refused https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/09/cops-wanted-to-keep-mass-surveillance-app-secret-privacy-advocates-refused/
[15:32]	TR Bot	 Cops wanted to keep mass surveillance app secret; privacy advocates refused | Ars Technica
[15:33]	TR News	Aerial Dragon Robot Reconfigures Itself Into a Flying Manipulator https://spectrum.ieee.org/dragon-robot-flying-manipulator
[15:33]	TR Bot	 Aerial Dragon Robot Reconfigures Itself Into a Flying Manipulator - IEEE Spectrum
[15:34]	TR News	NASA Spends $50 Million to Develop Next-Gen Processor for Space Exploration https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/338891-nasa-spends-50-million-to-develop-next-gen-processor-for-space-exploration
[15:34]	TR Bot	Spends $50 Million to Develop Next-Gen Processor for Space Exploration - ExtremeTech
[15:35]	TR News	GMs Cruise recalls, updates software in 80 robotaxis following crash https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/01/gms-cruise-recalls-updates-software-in-80-robotaxis-following-crash/ the concept ITSELF is flawed, not the code. This is face-saving stuff; it should be BANNED.
[15:35]	TR Bot	 Cruise recalls, updates software in 80 robotaxis after crash
[15:36]	TR News	"Cities like Orlando, FL, and Singapore are using digital twins to generate virtual models of themselves, in order to simulate the effects of potential new policies or infrastructure projects that can inform real-world decision-making." https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2022-04-05/digital-twins-mark-cities-first-foray-into-the-metaverse?sref=EJ3iffSv
[15:36]	TR Bot	- Are you a robot?
[15:37]	TR News	"I set out thinking: how could I build an "on this day" feature for my website?" https://jamesg.blog/2022/09/06/time-machine/
[15:37]	TR Bot	 Building an 'on this day' feature for my website | James' Coffee Blog
[15:41]	TR News	 (NEW): Papirus Icon Sets September Update Adds 38 New Icons http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Papirus_Icon_Set_s_September_Update_Adds_38_New_Icons.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Papirus_Icon_Set_s_September_Update_Adds_38_New_Icons.gmi 
[15:41]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Papirus Icon Sets September Update Adds 38 New Icons
[15:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me still doesnt understand the systemd logo
[15:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	digital green duck eats manhattan? okay
[15:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	green play button and green record button on the same button? that sounds very lennartesque
[15:44]	XRevan86	Some years ago I recreated the systemd logo in Tux Paint and posted it here, it looked authentic enough :)
[15:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	"red record symbols are very confusing to colourblind users, so we made it the same colour"
[15:44]	MinceR	lol @ tack surface
[15:44]	MinceR	"Our base is under a tack!"
[15:44]	MinceR	11 164259 < highest_cubist_thrills> /me still doesnt understand the systemd logo
[15:44]	MinceR	a green arrow pointing at a blob
[15:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	"plus we combined it into a single button, because why would you want to play without recording?"
[15:44]	MinceR	"everything goes in there!"
[15:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	nice
[15:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	a freudian logo
[15:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean he is german
[15:45]	MinceR	:>
[15:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	it could also be lennarts triangular green dick, but sometimes a blob is just a blob
[15:46]	MinceR	lol
[15:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	"i like to dress him up und call him herman"
[15:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	"he is not shaped that way, that is the hat i gave him"
[15:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	NOW IS THE TIME IN SPROCKETS VEN VE DANCE!
[15:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	i would have supported systemd if lennart had simply done every interview and presentation as dieter from sprockets
[15:48]	TR News	Ubuntu 22.04 vs Ubuntu 20.04 - Whats the difference? https://www.debugpoint.com/difference-ubuntu-22-04-20-04/ Source: DebugPoint | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.debugpoint.com/difference-ubuntu-22-04-20-04/
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[15:48]	TR News	Linux Mint Upgrade Tool - Heres How it Works https://www.debugpoint.com/mint-upgrade-tool/ Source: DebugPoint | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.debugpoint.com/mint-upgrade-tool/
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[15:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	<XRevan86> Some years ago I recreated the systemd logo in Tux Paint <- im pretty sure systemd was written in tux paint
[15:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	every time a line of coded was added, it made an animal noise
[15:50]	schestowitz[TR]	systemd-editord
[15:50]	MinceR	why not in pinta?
[15:50]	MinceR	they seem to love MICROS~1 crap
[15:51]	TR News	[PATCH 0/4] Fixups for s2idle on ASUS Rembrandt laptop - Mario Limonciello https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220909180509.638-1-mario.limonciello@amd.com/ Source: Kernel | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220909180509.638-1-mario.limonciello@amd.com/
[15:51]	TR Bot	 [PATCH 0/4] Fixups for s2idle on ASUS Rembrandt laptop - Mario Limonciello
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[15:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean he works for microsoft now right
[15:51]	XRevan86	Is Pinta still around?
[15:51]	MinceR	yeah, he joined the redmond mafia
[15:51]	schestowitz[TR]	kinda pinta felta
[15:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	so all thats missing is systemd-monod
[15:51]	MinceR	i don't know if pinta is still around, i don't care
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[15:51]	XRevan86	Krita made Pinta obsolete pretty much.
[15:51]	schestowitz[TR]	monad
[15:51]	schestowitz[TR]	xmonad
[15:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	systemd-dotnetd
[15:52]	MinceR	but krita is not based on the botNET Framework
[15:52]	MinceR	though maybe it does depend on cancerd already
[15:52]	schestowitz[TR]	systemd-dead
[15:52]	schestowitz[TR]	DEA
[15:52]	schestowitz[TR]	client of Microsoft
[15:52]	schestowitz[TR]	they needed systemd support
[15:52]	MinceR	i suppose MICROS~1 could buy Qt and then krita would depend on crap they own
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[15:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	systemd is gnome init
[15:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	the whole point of gnome is to make you need microsoft for things you didnt need it for
[15:53]	MinceR	and kde5+ init
[15:53]	schestowitz[TR]	Qt is 'too' cross-platform
[15:53]	MinceR	that can be fixed
[15:53]	schestowitz[TR]	that would give sabotage opportunities
[15:53]	MinceR	being cross-platform is not "modern"
[15:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	cross your platform and hope to die
[15:53]	schestowitz[TR]	windows = crossed-platform
[15:53]	schestowitz[TR]	and nailed platforms
[15:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me hangs garlic on the monitor
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[15:54]	schestowitz[TR]	zemlin would approve the takeover
[15:54]	schestowitz[TR]	#SheelaMicrosoftLovesOpenSource
[15:54]	MinceR	as long as he'd paid enough for approving it
[15:54]	schestowitz[TR]	#SheelaLikesCrypto
[15:55]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2022/08/30/zemlins-are-volatile/
[15:55]	TR Bot	 After Defrauding People in New York Stock Exchange (Now Class Action for Securities Fraud) Jim Zemlins Wife Quits Bakkt to Dodge Liability | Techrights
[15:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	linuxcoin
[15:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	the only kernel thats entirely in the blockchain
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[15:55]	MinceR	Microsoft Linuxcoin
[15:55]	schestowitz[TR]	jim zem-lynch
[15:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	.net
[15:55]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2022/09/05/on-judenlager-zemlin/
[15:55]	TR Bot	 What is Judenlager Zemlin? | Techrights
[15:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	judenlager hmm
[15:56]	TR News	 (NEW): Sunday Morning Experiment: Video recording on the PinePhone http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Sunday_Morning_Experiment_Video_recording_on_the_PinePhone.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Sunday_Morning_Experiment_Video_recording_on_the_PinePhone.gmi 
[15:56]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Sunday Morning Experiment: Video recording on the PinePhone
[15:56]	schestowitz[TR]	they have a lager after gassing them in the van
[15:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats dangerously close to something gabriel iglasias spit out after being heckled mercilously by three germans 
[15:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	"they like fanta toooooooo!" "WE DO NOT LIKE FANTA!!!"
[15:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=n0Xm2mwBtWI
[15:58]	TR Bot	 The Craziest Show Of My Life | Gabriel Iglesias - Invidious
[15:59]	TR News	 (NEW): Top 10 Best Linux Distributions in 2022 For Everyone http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Top_10_Best_Linux_Distributions_in_2022_For_Everyone.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Top_10_Best_Linux_Distributions_in_2022_For_Everyone.gmi 
[15:59]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Top 10 Best Linux Distributions in 2022 For Everyone
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[16:01]	TR News	arm64: spectre: increase parameters that can be used to turn off bhb mitigation individually https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/arm64/linux.git/commit/?h=for-next/misc&id=877ace9eab7de032f954533afd5d1ecd0cf62eaf
[16:01]	TR Bot	 kernel/git/arm64/linux.git - AArch64 Linux kernel port
[16:03]	TR News	'Positive Effects of Imperialism' https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/23/us-high-schoolers-answer-listing-zero-positive-effects-imperialism-goes-viral
[16:03]	TR Bot	 US High Schooler's Answer Listing Zero 'Positive Effects of Imperialism' Goes Viral
[16:03]	TR News	A new financial order - neritam https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/09/08/a-new-financial-order/ Source: Neritam
[16:03]	TR Bot	 A new financial order neritam
[16:04]	TR News	World Overshoot Day: World has already overshot natures budget for rest of the year https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/wildlife-biodiversity/world-overshoot-day-world-has-already-overshot-nature-s-budget-for-rest-of-the-year-84027
[16:04]	TR Bot	 World Overshoot Day: World has already overshot natures budget for rest of the year
[16:04]	TR News	San Franciscos Unhoused People Speak Out - neritam https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/09/07/san-franciscos-unhoused-people-speak-out/ Source: Neritam
[16:04]	TR Bot	 San Franciscos Unhoused People Speak Out neritam
[16:05]	TR News	"Orbns speech, what you were playing was one paragraph out of a speech that went on for an hour and 15 minutes. So, it wasnt as prominent in the speech as the international press attention. But still, it was a shocker for Hungarians, because for the first time Orbn used language that had not been heard since the 1930s and 40s." https://www.democracynow.org/2022/8/8/scholar_says_us_close_to_dictatorship
[16:05]	TR Bot	 Viktor Orbn Has Eroded Democracy in Hungary. Now Hes Being Embraced by CPAC & American Right | Democracy Now!
[16:06]	TR News	How About a Civic Group to Oppose a Cashless Society? - Ralph Nader https://nader.org/2022/09/01/how-about-a-civic-group-to-oppose-a-cashless-society/ Source: Nader
[16:06]	TR Bot	 How About a Civic Group to Oppose a Cashless Society? - Ralph Nader
[16:06]	TR News	"Billions of tons of plastic have been made of the past decades, and much of it is becoming trash and litter, finds the first analysist of the issue." https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/whopping-91-percent-plastic-isnt-recycled/
[16:06]	TR Bot	 A Whopping 91 Percent of Plastic Isnt Recycled | National Geographic Society
[16:07]	TR News	Data from elephant seals reveal new features of marine heatwave the Blob https://news.ucsc.edu/2022/07/elephant-seal-oceanography.html | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//news.ucsc.edu/2022/07/elephant-seal-oceanography.html
[16:07]	TR Bot	 Data from elephant seals reveal new features of marine heatwave the Blob
[16:08]	TR News	An Overdue Reckoning: The Napalp Ruling And Indigenous Repression In Argentina - The Organization for World Peace https://theowp.org/reports/an-overdue-reckoning-the-napalpi-ruling-and-indigenous-repression-in-argentina/ Source: OWP | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//theowp.org/reports/an-overdue-reckoning-the-napalpi-ruling-and-indigenous-repression-in-argentina/
[16:08]	TR Bot	 An Overdue Reckoning: The Napalp Ruling And Indigenous Repression In Argentina The Organization for World Peace
[16:09]	TR News	Lies wrapped up as "entertainment" https://www.democracynow.org/2022/8/9/nyt_reporter_alex_jones_defamation_suit
[16:09]	TR Bot	 Alex Jones Proved That Lying Pays. Can Sandy Hook Lawsuits Help Turn the Tide on Disinformation? | Democracy Now!
[16:10]	TR News	"The events which led to the Kargil fiasco, which I will go on to narrate in some detail in this story, are not classified. They are available as court records, information procured through RTI queries and from books published by those involved in the war, including General V.P. Malik, Major General Verma, Captain Amarinder Singh and a few others." https://thewire.in/security/kargil-war-vijay-diwas-truth
[16:10]	TR Bot	 The Truth About the Kargil War Is Bitter But it Must Be Told
[16:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	they have a lager after gassing them in the van <- i forgot about the portable gas chambers
[16:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean enough people have suicided that way, sure
[16:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	dont drink and execute people in a van and drive
[16:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	youre liable to get someone killed
[16:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	thank god the fsf wasnt around during wwii
[16:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	i know stallman would have been asked if the gas chambers should run free software or not
[16:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	and the answer would have been completely reasonable, logically sound, and wrong
[16:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	oliva would be in the back yelling "DONT DO IT! DONT DO IT!"
[16:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	(reference to previous youtube link)
[16:16]	TR News	Why I don't enjoy RSpec all that much https://nts.strzibny.name/why-not-rspec/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//nts.strzibny.name/why-not-rspec/
[16:17]	TR Bot	 Why I don't enjoy RSpec all that much
[16:19]	TR News	Python application deployment with RStudio Connect: Streamlit https://www.jumpingrivers.com/blog/python-app-deployment-with-rstudio-connect-streamlit/ Source: jumpingrivers | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.jumpingrivers.com/blog/python-app-deployment-with-rstudio-connect-streamlit/
[16:19]	TR Bot	 Python application deployment with RStudio Connect: Streamlit
[16:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[16:30]	TR News	"I recently made my first R package and was asked how I did it. The answer of course was: I searched, read, and stumbled around until it was done. But having gone through the process I figured it was worthwhile summarising what I did and what I found tricky." https://quantixed.org/2022/09/06/the-package-learning-how-to-build-an-r-package/
[16:30]	TR Bot	 The Package: learning how to build an R package quantixed
[16:31]	TR News	"I've been itching to code in assembly for a few weeks now. It's just a part of my cycle - getting tired of the complexity and bulk of high-level languages and wanting to do something direct and simple - and what is more direct than coding assembly-language instructions on a CPU?" gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-09-11.assembly.gmi
[16:33]	TR News	"A hard truth for developers, but performance often comes last." https://matt-rickard.com/performance-comes-last
[16:33]	TR Bot	 Performance Comes Last
[16:33]	TR News	"What is the "systems administration" for developers today? Maybe it's playing with models like Stable Diffusion. Or maybe it's running services in the cloud." https://matt-rickard.com/the-lost-art-of-systems-administration
[16:33]	TR Bot	 The Lost Art of System Administration
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[16:39]	TR News	"While listening to Chris, Dave, and Jen discuss the array of new things coming to CSS, what stuck out to me was how much these new things arent necessarily about addressing specific concerns around technological capability e.g. when will we get IF statements in CSS?" https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/jen-simmons-shoptalk-show/
[16:39]	TR Bot	 Podcast Notes: Jen Simmons on ShopTalk Show - Jim Nielsens Blog
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[16:40]	TR News	Berlin 2022 - More Photos https://jamesg.blog/2022/09/07/berlin-2022-2/ it's really dreary in wintertime
[16:40]	TR Bot	 Berlin 2022 - More Photos | James' Coffee Blog
[16:40]	TR News	"Thanks, Sir Tim Berners-Lee." for DRM?? https://chenhuijing.com/blog/so-your-designer-wants-stuff-to-overlap/
[16:40]	TR Bot	 So your designer wants stuff to overlap
[16:41]	TR News	Kent Ridge Park in Singapore https://rubenerd.com/kent-ridge-park-in-singapore/ very tiny and overpopulated nation
[16:42]	TR Bot	Kent Ridge Park in Singapore
[16:44]	TR News	Mass surveillance expo rebranded as "lifestyle" https://staceyoniot.com/its-not-yet-fall-but-matter-is-already-here/
[16:44]	TR Bot	 It's not yet fall, but Matter is already here - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
[16:46]	TR News	Many people would rather travel the Web than travel the world. Guess which activity ruins the world more
[16:47]	TR News	"Republicans across the country are trying to use the power of the state to restrict speech." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/10/opinion/schools-banned-books.html
[16:47]	TR Bot	 Opinion | Censorship Is the Refuge of the Weak - The New York Times
[16:48]	TR News	"Since taking the White House in November 2020, President Joe Biden has issued repeated calls to amend one of the most foundational laws governing the internet, Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act." https://gizmodo.com/biden-issues-another-vague-call-to-reform-section-230-1849519743
[16:48]	TR Bot	 Biden Issues Another Vague Call to 'Reform' Section 230
[16:49]	TR News	Biden values free speech like Trump values democracy and Trump values free speech like Biden values Trump. Two shits are shits, even if one is a lesser shit. What a shit system.
[16:49]	TR News	"Tales about a sheep village resisting a wolf pack prompted the charges against leaders of a speech therapists union, extending a government crackdown on dissent." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/10/world/asia/hong-kong-childrens-books-free-speech.html
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Hong Kong Sentences 5 Over Seditious Childrens Books - The New York Times
[16:50]	TR News	5 Hong Kong speech therapists jailed for 19 months each for sedition over children's books - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP https://hongkongfp.com/2022/09/10/breaking-5-hong-kong-speech-therapists-jailed-for-19-months-each-for-sedition-over-childrens-books/ Source: Hong Kong Free Press
[16:50]	TR Bot	 5 Hong Kong speech therapists jailed for 19 months each for sedition over children's books - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
[16:51]	TR News	Spain is set to reform gag law, but press freedom groups are skeptical - Committee to Protect Journalists https://cpj.org/2022/09/spain-is-set-to-reform-gag-law-but-press-freedom-groups-are-skeptical/ Source: CPJ | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//cpj.org/2022/09/spain-is-set-to-reform-gag-law-but-press-freedom-groups-are-skeptical/
[16:51]	TR Bot	 Spain is set to reform gag law, but press freedom groups are skeptical - Committee to Protect Journalists
[16:51]	TR News	ACLU of Nevada sues Las Vegas over age restrictions - JURIST - News https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/09/aclu-of-nevada-sues-las-vegas-over-age-restrictions/ Source: JURIST | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.jurist.org/news/2022/09/aclu-of-nevada-sues-las-vegas-over-age-restrictions/
[16:51]	TR Bot	 ACLU of Nevada sues Las Vegas over age restrictions - JURIST - News
[16:52]	TR News	Report: China accelerates global campaign to sway foreign media Radio Free Asia https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/influence-09072022211934.html Source: rfa | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.rfa.org/english/news/china/influence-09072022211934.html
[16:52]	TR Bot	 Report: China accelerates global campaign to sway foreign media Radio Free Asia
[16:53]	TR News	Thick beards, thin skin https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/07/world/middleeast/egypt-arab-gulf-states-netflix.html
[16:53]	TR Bot	 Arab States Demand That Netflix Drop Offensive Content - The New York Times
[16:53]	TR News	Salman Rushdie, Free Speech, and Violence - The Atlantic https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/09/salman-rushdie-attack-bari-weiss-free-speech/671318/?utm_source=feed Source: The Atlantic
[16:53]	TR Bot	 Salman Rushdie, Free Speech, and Violence - The Atlantic
[16:54]	TR News	China's state media urged not to stray from party line, dumb down ideology Radio Free Asia https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/state-media-09072022110107.html Source: rfs | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.rfa.org/english/news/china/state-media-09072022110107.html
[16:54]	TR Bot	 China's state media urged not to stray from party line, dumb down ideology Radio Free Asia
[16:55]	TR News	Vietnamese authorities walk back decision ordering artist to destroy 29 paintings Radio Free Asia https://www.rfa.org/english/news/vietnam/painter-09082022102656.html
[16:55]	TR Bot	 Vietnamese authorities walk back decision ordering artist to destroy 29 paintings Radio Free Asia
[16:56]	TR News	"Russia has sentenced a former star journalist to jail and revoked the license of a Kremlin-critical newspaper, further tightening the screws on independent media. Getting uncensored information is harder than ever." https://www.dw.com/en/russia-continues-crackdown-on-independent-media/a-63057834
[16:56]	TR Bot	abroad, Russian independent media continue fight against censorship | News | DW | 08.09.2022
[16:57]	TR News	Who next? What next? Where next? And WHO FOR? https://reason.com/2022/09/08/cloudflare-can-cancel-service-to-terrible-websites-like-kiwi-farms-but-should-it/
[16:57]	TR Bot	 Cloudflare Can Cancel Service to Awful Sites Like Kiwi Farms. But Should It?
[16:57]	TR News	Probably no connection to her, just lousy infra https://www.vice.com/en/article/5d3yqa/twitter-experiences-intermittent-outages-following-death-of-queen-elizabeth-ii
[16:57]	TR Bot	 Twitter Experiences Intermittent Outages Following Death of Queen Elizabeth II
[16:58]	TR News	WeChat warns users their likes, comments and histories are being sent to China Radio Free Asia https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/wechat-09082022183307.html Source: Verfassungsblog | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.rfa.org/english/news/china/wechat-09082022183307.html
[16:58]	TR Bot	 WeChat warns users their likes, comments and histories are being sent to China Radio Free Asia
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[17:00]	TR News	"This is the promise crypto advocates have sold consumers and politicians over the past decade, as crypto has blown up into a trillion-dollar behemothin the process making Buterin, now best known as the founder of the Ethereum network, very, very rich." https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/09/crypto-technology-government-regulation/671375/?utm_source=feed
[17:00]	TR Bot	 Cryptos Libertarianism Is Running Headfirst Into Reality - The Atlantic
[17:00]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 114.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 73.11 average k/sec., average swarm size 104.48
[17:00]	TR News	Jim Zemlin's wife: "crypto" fraudster http://techrights.org/2022/08/19/zemlin-family-running-scams/
[17:00]	TR Bot	 Sheela Microsoft (Jim Zemlins Wife) Downplayed Volatility Just Weeks Before the Cryptocurrencies Pyramid Schemes Collapsed (Thats Her Business at Bakkt!) | Techrights
[17:00]	TR News	Jim Zemlin's wife on the run http://techrights.org/2022/08/30/zemlins-are-volatile/
[17:00]	TR Bot	 After Defrauding People in New York Stock Exchange (Now Class Action for Securities Fraud) Jim Zemlins Wife Quits Bakkt to Dodge Liability | Techrights
[17:02]	TR News	"The Chinese Communist Party has long promoted gender equality as a core tenet, but as cases of gender abuse make headlines, Beijing has tried to squelch dissent and control the narrative." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/06/business/china-women-metoo.html
[17:02]	TR Bot	 Battling Violence and Censors, Women in China Become Invisible and Absent - The New York Times
[17:03]	TR News	"When he became the last Soviet leader, Mikhail Gorbachev wanted to democratize the USSR without embracing free-market capitalism and end the Cold War without enabling US domination. The world is still haunted by his inability to achieve those goals." https://jacobin.com/2022/09/mikhail-gorbachev-ussr-reform-collapse-us/
[17:03]	TR Bot	 Mikhail Gorbachevs Project Was a Noble Failure Thwarted by Forces Beyond His Control
[17:07]	TR News	arm64: spectre: increase parameters that can be used to turn off bhb mitigation individually https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/arm64/linux.git/commit/?h=for-next/misc&id=877ace9eab7de032f954533afd5d1ecd0cf62eaf
[17:07]	TR Bot	 kernel/git/arm64/linux.git - AArch64 Linux kernel port
[17:07]	TR News	 (NEW): Koodo Reader: An Open Source eBook Reader for Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Koodo_Reader_An_Open_Source_eBook_Reader_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Koodo_Reader_An_Open_Source_eBook_Reader_for_Linux.gmi 
[17:07]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Koodo Reader: An Open Source eBook Reader for Linux
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[17:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=43ptxFx-CRM
[17:59]	TR Bot	 Gorbachev gave Russians freedom. They rejected it. - Invidious
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[18:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	from a russian presently living outside russia
[18:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	he let germany reunite so i guess thats the one good i see, if i have to find one
[18:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	the only thing worse than a united germany is probably one with a giant fucking wall through it
[18:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	he did crush 21 protestors with tanks, but i suppose compared to other soviet leaders thats like... zero
[18:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	i wouldnt vote for him
[18:05]	XRevan86	https://nitter.it/miaInPololu/status/1127481499044012032
[18:05]	TR Bot	(@miaInPololu): "Deputy Prime Minister Boris Nemtsov - from an interview with Sergei Dorenko: "The Asian type is an authoritarian dictatorial regime, in which most of the property, power, money is in the hands of a narrow group, if you do nothing, this is what we are heading towards. 1998"|nitter.it
[18:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	"and oh yeah a lot of boomers dont even mention the afghanistan war"
[18:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	billy joel does obviously
[18:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	"russians in afghanistan"
[18:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	billy joel is unstoppable. i saw a couple of girls in their 20s with billy joel shirts the other day
[18:07]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: Niemtsov saw it a kilometre away.
[18:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	there you go
[18:08]	XRevan86	Don't know who rejected what, democratic Russia was a failed state, the institutions weren't established properly enough, and very quickly it all fell apart.
[18:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	no argument there
[18:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	he inherited a mess and arguably made a mess of a mess
[18:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	or something
[18:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	in former soviet russia, mess makes a mess of you
[18:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	glasnost sounds nice
[18:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me shrugs
[18:09]	XRevan86	Putin inherited the state he could mold in his image, which he did.
[18:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	so, russia sitting half naked on a horse?
[18:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	trying to smirk but it cant because of the botox/
[18:10]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: That image was way too easy to imagine :).
[18:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah well you did all the work, i just hit enter
[18:10]	TR News	Try Ubuntu To Revive An Old Mini https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/try-ubuntu-to-revive-an-old-mini.2355217/
[18:10]	TR Bot	 Try Ubuntu To Revive An Old Mini | MacRumors Forums
[18:11]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: I guess ye were talking about Gorbachev before, but my comments are about the "They Rejected It" part of the title.
[18:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	oh yeah, i mean
[18:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	the way i see it is this
[18:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	i try to make sense of it
[18:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	you know more about it
[18:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	we arent going to agree on everything, thats not how anything works in real life
[18:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	but generally i figure you know something, im still working on it
[18:12]	XRevan86	Ukraine was close to failure too, but the Ukrainian society is more hands-on.
[18:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	so yeah, thank fuck theres a russian who knows something in here
[18:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	otherwise its just me batting at a historical pinata and hoping candy comes out
[18:13]	loner	Poland, coal-prices doubled
[18:13]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: Well, I should actually watch the video and see his point, it's probably more nuanced than the title.
[18:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	oh id be surprised if you didnt like roman
[18:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	he seems like a pretty reasonable guy
[18:13]	XRevan86	He does.
[18:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	but hes young and im sure he gets stuff wrong. hes not too stuck on knowing everything
[18:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	a really great place to start in learning anything, is knowing that theres plenty you dont know
[18:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	otherwise you just go around looking for proof you were right, and that gets boring for everybody including yourself
[18:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	i know (of) roman from his videos with bald (ben rich)
[18:15]	XRevan86	In the Russian commons Gorbachev is more often than not viewed as a scapegoat that singlehandedly undone the whole country, brought hunger and misery. A bad tsar pretty much.
[18:15]	TR News	Slashdot's editor posting SHIT again. Missing or skipping all the important "Linux" news, but now that AT&T blames "Linux" for malware (without even specifying how it gets there) it is seen as important https://it.slashdot.org/story/22/09/11/0314234/powerful-new-linux-malware-shikitega-uses-unusual-multi-stage-stealth
[18:15]	TR Bot	 Powerful New Linux Malware Shikitega Uses Unusual Multi-Stage Stealth - Slashdot
[18:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah they dont seem to think much of him
[18:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	but i also figure most historians would disagree with the idea that one person generally undoes anything
[18:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	like even with the rise of stalin...
[18:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	there had to be a good solid series of fuckups for that to even happen
[18:16]	XRevan86	True, but at least Stalin actively worked to be a totalitarian dictator.
[18:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	a terrible leader doesnt rise to power without a series of fuckups preceding and during the rise
[18:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	this doesnt get a world-class fuckup off the hook, but it wouldnt be historically sound to leave it out either
[18:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	its highly relevant imo
[18:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	and probably overlooked quite a lot
[18:17]	TR News	"There is a serious problem in the '3buildeasydistro' script in woofQ, building Easy Bookworm. In a few places it runs "chroot rootfs-complete ...", that now fail." https://bkhome.org/news/202209/chroot-too-many-levels-of-symbolic-links.html
[18:17]	TR Bot	 chroot too many levels of symbolic links
[18:18]	XRevan86	Stalin and Putin did everything they could to pivot the state onto themselves.
[18:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah
[18:18]	TR News	"the Army is buying thousands of Micrsoft Holo Lenses" = theft by Microsoft, fraud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTmzpNxAMMA see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
[18:18]	TR Bot	https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=jTmzpNxAMMA
[18:19]	TR Bot	timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=jTmzpNxAMMA )
[18:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	this is one of his more nuanced videos
[18:19]	TR Bot	 The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
[18:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	i was expecting him to settle a score, maybe a bit
[18:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	if anything he went fair and balanced (tongue in cheek is the only way to use that phrase)
[18:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	but its not a bad video imo
[18:19]	TR News	Microsoft fired ALL "Holo Lens" staff. The manager? EVEN WORSE: http://techrights.org/2022/06/09/another-theranos-moment/
[18:19]	TR Bot	 Microsoft, EPO Awards, and Sexual Abuse (Theranos All Over Again) | Techrights
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[18:20]	XRevan86	"more towards the market economy" <- Eh, I'd rather say "to decentralise production", but close enough.
[18:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	oh and, and
[18:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	gorbechev is the one that brought mcdonalds
[18:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	so if that doesnt convince the world... what would
[18:26]	XRevan86	Regarding the love-hate relationship, it's not just with Gorbachev, it's also with Yeltsin.
[18:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	hes talking about that right now "10:-11:"
[18:28]	XRevan86	Putin and his media both praise him and villify him.
[18:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	this is probably his best video
[18:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	theres a great quote about putin coming out of gorbechevs overcoat
[18:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	putin hated it, but putin owes everything to it
[18:29]	XRevan86	And it's even more so with the Yeltsin's overcoat.
[18:29]	XRevan86	Gorbachev provided the foundation, Yeltsin provided the building.
[18:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	"if you give away your freedom for comfort, sooner or later your comfort will also get taken away from you"
[18:31]	XRevan86	And we're on the border of the times where the comfort is taken away.
[18:31]	TR News	 (NEW): #HowTo Self-Host Bitwarden Password Manager on Raspberry Pi Zero http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/bitwarden_pi.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/bitwarden_pi.gmi 
[18:31]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines How to Self-Host Bitwarden Password Manager on Raspberry Pi Zero
[18:32]	TR News	A winner by wallet maybe, but Lachlan Murdoch has put Crikey on the world stage https://michaelwest.com.au/defamation-lachlan-murdoch-puts-crikey-on-the-world-stage/ Source: Michael West Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/defamation-lachlan-murdoch-puts-crikey-on-the-world-stage/
[18:32]	TR Bot	 A winner by wallet maybe, but Lachlan Murdoch has put Crikey on the world stage
[18:33]	TR News	"Albanese government makes as it battles with a trillion dollars of debt." https://michaelwest.com.au/no-future-governor-generals-charity-knocked-on-the-head/
[18:33]	TR Bot	 No future: Governor-Generals charity knocked on the head - Michael West
[18:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	that was definitely not the video i was expecting, but he didnt let me down
[18:34]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: Watched it, most of my comments are straight up redundant :)
[18:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	hey! hes that good i guess
[18:34]	TR News	"It will support various Linux distributions, but naturally Ill be seeing what BSD I can get on it too. I think itll be a fun project." https://rubenerd.com/backing-the-visionfive-2-risc-v-dev-board/
[18:34]	TR Bot	Backing the VisionFive 2 RISC-V dev board
[18:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me doesnt think confirmation is redundant
[18:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	if the fsf had been more redundant we might be in a better situation
[18:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	(redundant, not repetitive)
[18:36]	XRevan86	I still don't actually know if Putin actually regrets the dissolution of the USSR or if he is just being a populist.
[18:36]	TR News	Wilderplace - macwright.com https://macwright.com/2022/09/09/wilderplace.html Source: Tom MacWright | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//macwright.com/2022/09/09/wilderplace.html
[18:36]	TR Bot	- macwright.com
[18:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats the thing about liar opportunists
[18:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	you never know, if they ever do something right, if its for the right reason or not
[18:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	but you figure it probably isnt, and youre probably right
[18:37]	XRevan86	The dissolution was a very positive thing in Putin's personal life, so what is there to complain about for him?
[18:37]	TR News	"At work, we have a weekly "knowledge sharing" meeting, yesterday I talked about the state of NixOS deployments tools." https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-09-09-nixos-deployments-tools.html
[18:37]	TR Bot	 Solene'% : Video - talk about NixOS deployments tools
[18:38]	TR News	"Liz had, by several accounts, a wicked sense of humour. There was the story of her meeting American tourists who were oblivious to who she was, trolling Mr Orange during a visit, and personally driving the Saudi king. It was the latter my mum especially admired, even though she didnt like the rest of the family." https://rubenerd.com/queen-elizabeth-ii/
[18:38]	TR Bot	Queen Elizabeth II
[18:38]	TR News	"Liz represented a family that has wrought untold suffering and theft to people around the world, and altogether not enough has been done to atone and compensate for this, let alone acknowledge it. Charles IIIs coronation will also cost billions of pounds right when working class people are struggling to keep the heater on." https://rubenerd.com/queen-elizabeth-ii/
[18:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	heh
[18:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean he wouldnt be in power
[18:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	so...
[18:39]	TR News	"The worlds relationship with Liz was more complicated than people on either side acknowledge. This is most starkly represented in Hong Kong, where her family were responsible for the Opium wars on one end, and represented lost freedoms and resistance since the handover." https://rubenerd.com/queen-elizabeth-ii/
[18:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	just being populist
[18:40]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: Not just the presidency, he got rich in the 90s.
[18:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	makes sense
[18:40]	XRevan86	https://rferl.org/a/putin-cocaine-connection/31855099.html This sort of thing.
[18:40]	TR Bot	 Corned Beef And Cocaine
[18:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	heh
[18:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	cocaine is a hell of a drug
[18:41]	TR News	"Her ascension to the throne came in a springtime of unmatched prosperity, fuelled by cheap energy and the prevailing notion that all other continents, nations and peoples would soon fall in line and become just like us. Her demise eerily marks both a beginning and an end in more ways than one." https://www.datagubbe.se/charlesiii/
[18:41]	TR Bot	Charles III and the Swedish General Election | datagubbe.se
[18:42]	XRevan86	So he was not begging for scraps in the 90s.
[18:42]	TR News	"As liberal democracy fails to deliver on its promise, so dies its monarch. The end of an era, indeed." https://www.datagubbe.se/charlesiii/
[18:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	donning a veil and trying to marry himself off to a comfortable westerner?
[18:43]	TR News	Did Tourism Australia really get a KPMG report, or was it Scomos imagination? - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/did-tourism-australia-really-get-a-kpmg-report-or-was-it-scomos-imagination/ Source: Michael West Media
[18:43]	TR Bot	 Did Tourism Australia really get a KPMG report, or was it Scomo's imagination? - Michael West
[18:43]	TR News	 (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Android_Leftovers.gmi 
[18:43]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[18:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	"good morning honey, i made you coffee"
[18:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	"uh um, ive been meaning to cut back actually..."
[18:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me just goes to stars instead
[18:46]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: Stars Coffee?
[18:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah :)
[18:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	the joke was that putin was hard up in the 90s and had to marry himself off to a wealthy western husband
[18:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	but then when he made him coffee in the morning, the husband wisely decided to go to stars instead
[18:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	which of course, does not exist in the west, but thats fair since putin also isnt a mail order bride
[18:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me is looking forward to russian snickers
[18:57]	TR News	 (NEW): Security and FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Security_and_FUD_Fear_Uncertainty_Doubt.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Security_and_FUD_Fear_Uncertainty_Doubt.gmi 
[18:57]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security and FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt)
[18:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	 ""
[18:59]	TR News	Links 11/09/2022: Papirus Icon Set Refreshed | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/09/11/papirus-icon-set/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/11/papirus-icon-set/
[18:59]	TR Bot	 Links 11/09/2022: Papirus Icon Set Refreshed | Techrights
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[18:59]	TR News	 (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi 
[18:59]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[18:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me surely got it wrong
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[19:00]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/today_s_howtos.3.gmi 
[19:00]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[19:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	"we ran out of peanuts so now its 'packed with trail mix', really satisfies"
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[19:01]	schestowitz[TR]	peanuts are still cheap here
[19:01]	schestowitz[TR]	about 50 pence for 200 grams at aldi
[19:01]	schestowitz[TR]	the price has not changed... yet
[19:01]	schestowitz[TR]	we took about 8 packs on friday
[19:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	presumably sanctions are still in place between russia and britain
[19:01]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi 
[19:01]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[19:02]	schestowitz[TR]	I guess
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[19:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	just a week or two ago ben rich couldnt use any of his bank cards in russia
[19:02]	schestowitz[TR]	the baboon king won't change that
[19:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	he had to open a local account
[19:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	to avoid carrying rubles
[19:03]	schestowitz[TR]	rube
[19:03]	schestowitz[TR]	synonyms yokel or yahoo
[19:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	Biden administration imposes new sanctions on Putin's daughters and Russian Banks
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[19:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	 :)
[19:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me tries to guess the connection
[19:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	obviously both russian...
[19:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	other than maybe being my favourite headline of all time
[19:06]	schestowitz[TR]	"all my sons"
[19:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	www.wkow.com/townnews/politics/biden-administration-imposes-new-sanctions-on-putins-daughters-and-russian-banks/article_be1d18b1-e8bd-5d93-8250-09fcc82f53c0.html 
[19:06]	schestowitz[TR]	a book abotu banksters
[19:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	bank-of-america-experiencing-major-online-glitch-0-displaying-in-accounts/ 
[19:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	not a glitch, the machines have simply gotten very existential about things
[19:07]	schestowitz[TR]	only shills keep shillings
[19:07]	schestowitz[TR]	only rubes save in rubles
[19:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	your balance is: ALL A LIE! ITS A BIG LIE!
[19:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	only dolls save in dollars?
[19:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	guys and dolls
[19:08]	schestowitz[TR]	your balance is... ibvested in wall street
[19:08]	schestowitz[TR]	your savings are... propping up a bubble
[19:08]	schestowitz[TR]	also: you CANNOT withdraw the money in your account
[19:08]	schestowitz[TR]	you need to explain why you need it
[19:09]	schestowitz[TR]	meanwhile oligarchs have their accounts inn panama, bermuda, caymen
[19:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	only a douche saves in deutchmarks :)
[19:09]	schestowitz[TR]	where rules are different
[19:09]	schestowitz[TR]	their bankers are proxies somewhere like london or aurich
[19:09]	schestowitz[TR]	*zurich
[19:09]	schestowitz[TR]	jesus saves. jesus pays tax on savings
[19:09]	schestowitz[TR]	also see: cyprus
[19:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	but if you expect a return on your investment, youll have to wait 2000 years
[19:10]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: Mars Inc. products are still around.
[19:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	i know, i just figure theyre next
[19:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	plus they have a shelf life, so...
[19:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	its not like starbucks where you can just keep a mocha latte around for a year
[19:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	"does this taste funny?"
[19:11]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: The company shut down new investments but didn't leave Russia.
[19:11]	MinceR	sad
[19:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	"its fine, the bad ones just taste like ordinary coffee"
[19:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	Weird Al Yankovic: The Accordion Is Not A Babe Magnet
[19:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	that would make a good song
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[19:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	"you got really good at it"
[19:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	"well, i mean there are 13 year olds in ukraine that play the accordian better than i do"
[19:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	"oh, lets not say ukraine... just say 'lithuania'
[19:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	conan says he plays an imaginary accordion on the bus when he wants more room
[19:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	"i just move my arms like this... and they all back away"
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[19:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	gnu less is based on github
[19:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	openbsd forked it
[19:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	because of pledge
[19:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	as far as i know
[19:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	openbsd is the only project that forked a gnu project AWAY from github
[19:23]	starstreak	lol
[19:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	 <3 theo 
[19:24]	starstreak	<3 theo :D
[19:24]	starstreak	attack surface
[19:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	atTACK surFACE
[19:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	i wish you could meet our lead developer! but you cant because he lives in canada
[19:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	his name is theo and he lives in vancouver
[19:26]	starstreak	i thought he lived in alberta
[19:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	he wont use systemd cause it sucks like a hoover
[19:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah but thats not how the song goes
[19:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	actually in the song her name is alberta and she lives in vancouver
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[19:42]	MinceR	https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1266.html
[19:42]	TR Bot	 1266 Even Deal - Giant in the Playground Games
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● Sep 11
[20:00]	starstreak	welcome back highest_cubist_thrills :)
[20:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	merci!
[20:02]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, have you seen ravynOS?
[20:03]	starstreak	its a freebsd distro with a mac ui and it aims to run mac apps
[20:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me giggles
[20:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	https://ravynos.com/
[20:04]	TR Bot	Finesse of macOS. Freedom of FreeBSD.
[20:05]	starstreak	its a shame their source code is hosted on github
[20:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	the linux compatibility layer requires wayland :)
[20:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	 Many Linux applications that support Wayland are expected to work with FreeBSDs Linux emulation layer. 
[20:05]	starstreak	nice
[20:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	but maybe thats a freebsd thing, not ravyns fault
[20:05]	MinceR	that title already tells me i don't want to bother with ravynOS
[20:05]	starstreak	i dont mind wayland, i kinda like it
[20:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	 its a shame their source code is hosted on github <- its a shame that microsoft controlls 99% of free software, yes
[20:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	and the gnu developers dont even give a fuck
[20:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	 i dont mind wayland, i kinda like it <- i think you just enjoy finding new stuff to troll me with :)
[20:07]	starstreak	i do actually like wayland
[20:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	even so
[20:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	but my issue with wayland of course
[20:08]	starstreak	its lightweight
[20:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	is theyre fgollowing the 
[20:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	theyre following the new FILO development paradigm
[20:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	like systemd
[20:08]	starstreak	FILO?
[20:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	free in license only
[20:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	some people call it "osps" or "open source proprietary software"
[20:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	you have the source code, but it doesnt matter
[20:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	because the source is useless except to the developers
[20:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	like you have the source to linux
[20:09]	MinceR	waylandows was designed only with lennart's use cases in mind
[20:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	doesnt matter, linux will never be forked
[20:09]	MinceR	so it probably still doesn't support FPS games properly
[20:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	<MinceR> waylandows was designed only with lennart's use cases in mind <- this is what i mean
[20:09]	MinceR	nor screen sharing
[20:10]	MinceR	most waylandows implementations depend on systemd, or at least its logind part
[20:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	its just some fucked up thing to waste time of devs and users alike
[20:10]	MinceR	and it's not flexible enough
[20:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	which will ultimately be dumped like everything microsoft ever did
[20:10]	MinceR	for example, in X, you can restart/replace your window manager with your clients running
[20:10]	MinceR	in waylandows, you can't
[20:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	 <MinceR> and it's not flexible enough <- its not meant to be
[20:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	rather, its meant NOT to be
[20:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	"in waylandows, you can't" <- their slogan
[20:10]	MinceR	yeah, basically my problem with waylandows is that it's pushed as an X replacement yet it wasn't designed to be as powerful as X
[20:10]	starstreak	waylandows lol
[20:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	software designed to fuck up free software gets a big no from me
[20:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	systemd, waylandos, gnome...
[20:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	fuck it
[20:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	freebsd isnt so bad... its not great
[20:12]	starstreak	steam proton doesn't work in freebsd
[20:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	points for freebsd
[20:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	small ones, but hey
[20:13]	starstreak	i'd want to run windows games in steam
[20:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	lol
[20:14]	starstreak	although to be honest, i play games on xbox more than i do on pc
[20:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	"i use xbox btw"
[20:15]	starstreak	i love video games
[20:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	video games are a hell of a drug
[20:15]	starstreak	you can say that for sure
[20:16]	loner	MinceR: waylandows requires /dev/input/event to grab keyboard events, circumventing tty handling and permissions enforced by kernel
[20:16]	loner	on *nix it's pseudo terminals responsibility to expose keyboard
[20:16]	starstreak	i've been playing a lot of diablo 3 on xbox, trying to get the achievement of getting to level 70 without dying
[20:17]	loner	and most Xorg ship input modules nowadays, which too insist on /dev/input/event instead of the original xorg keyboard input
[20:18]	loner	it was possible still, to block at those original xorg input modules without evdev
[20:18]	loner	however, as a precaution, i too wiped Xorg recently
[20:19]	loner	haven't got a practically usable widget toolkit anymore anyway
[20:19]	loner	gtk3 was bad enough, and gtk4 will be the next best greatest shit ever invented for free
[20:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[20:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	<MinceR> for example, in X, you can restart/replace your window manager with your clients running <- which is awesome
[20:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean, on vms you could move running applications from one MACHINE to another
[20:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	the entire process tree
[20:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	so this sort of flexibility is something we strive for
[20:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	but the redmond treadmill only cares about the next quarter
[20:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	fuck users, fuck stability, theres no money in that
[20:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	move fast and charge to fix things you break
[20:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	why build nice things? thats like selling a computer that people dont need to replace in a year
[20:22]	starstreak	oh shit, i totally forgot about legend of the red dragon
[20:22]		*starstreak logs into Bottomless Abyss BBS
[20:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	 :)
[20:23]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, did you see techrights on mIRC on windows 3.11?
[20:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	no, i mean thats fun but 
[20:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	i used to do all that kind of stuff
[20:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	its less novel when you know... youve already done it
[20:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	like if i really wanted to
[20:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	im sure i could get here from DOS
[20:24]	starstreak	https://i.imgur.com/BPHCsD2.png
[20:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont mean ntvdm
[20:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean actual dos
[20:25]	TR News	Explaining modern server monitoring stacks for self-hosting gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/exploring-monitoring-stacks.gmi
[20:25]	starstreak	DOSBOX-X (emulated ne2000 network), MS-DOS 6.22, Windows 3.11, mIRC 16bit, ms tcp/ip, etc
[20:25]	loner	why didn't you try with FreeDOS?
[20:26]	starstreak	i could have used freedos
[20:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me used to do irc from dos with networking provided by arachne
[20:26]	starstreak	i was going for the nostalgia factor with ms-dos
[20:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah i mean
[20:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	i like retrocomputing, its cool
[20:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	its a great place to get fun ideas
[20:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	a few years ago i booted up the version of mandrake i bought in like... 2003 or something
[20:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	it had icewm
[20:27]	starstreak	if i was doing freedos, i'd use gnome boxes because freedos has qemu drivers
[20:27]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, icewm is sweet
[20:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	it used to be my #1
[20:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	for quite some time
[20:28]	starstreak	my first distro was redhat 5.2 and it came with fvwm95
[20:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah i bought red hat... 6 i think
[20:28]	starstreak	by then they were using gnome
[20:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	but installing it on a 486 (dx2) was a big no
[20:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah but it was like gnome 1 or something
[20:29]	starstreak	my friend had some version of linux running on a 486 with enlightenment desktop
[20:29]	TR News	Best Free Android Apps: K-9 Mail advanced email https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-android-apps-k-9-mail-advanced-email/
[20:29]	TR Bot	Free Android Apps: K-9 Mail - advanced email - LinuxLinks
[20:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean i hadnt really gotten into pentiums yet
[20:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	i had a tech coming over regularly to hang out
[20:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	he had a pentium 4
[20:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	i had a pentium (betwen 60 and 100 mhz) that someone threw away
[20:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	and i ran dos on it :)
[20:30]	TR News	Groundhogs, Thor is bad, lots of robots and Laser tractors - Trendy Talk - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qwTOzZ52LF8 | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/qwTOzZ52LF8
[20:30]	TR Bot	 Groundhogs, Thor is bad, lots of robots and Laser tractors - Trendy Talk - Invidious
[20:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	no, i ran dos on the old 286 i put in the minitower from it :)
[20:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	which i got on the web
[20:31]	starstreak	my first computer was a 386 16mhz 4mb ram system back in 1995 and it came with MS-DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.11
[20:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	i upgraded the graphics to an orchid and installed an ide controller
[20:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	because it had mfm :)
[20:31]	starstreak	i had IDE
[20:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	this was the second pc i ever used
[20:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	so it was more than a decade old (at the time)
[20:31]	starstreak	and i used that 386 from 1995 to 1999 when i got a free 486 from school
[20:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	my first 486 was 30 bucks from a computer show
[20:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	it was SO FAST
[20:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	later i got a dx2
[20:32]	starstreak	i had a 14.4k modem, BBSes were fun and so was the early internet
[20:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	made an mp3 stereo out of it
[20:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	headless
[20:32]	starstreak	i remember the struggle of getting trumpet winsock to work in win 3.11
[20:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah, i still wake up trembling
[20:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	big props for getting that to work
[20:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	"winSOCK"
[20:33]	starstreak	yeah then you could use mIRC and ICQ
[20:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	nope, i ended up getting 3.1 (not 3.11) working with dialer software from my isp
[20:34]	starstreak	could you use mIRC and ICQ?
[20:34]	starstreak	IE3 came with a dialer but it only worked with IE3
[20:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	i refused to use mirc back then
[20:34]	TR News	 (NEW): E86: Tech Talk: Linux Distro's you should check out http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/E86_Tech_Talk_Linux_Distro_s_you_should_check_out.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/E86_Tech_Talk_Linux_Distro_s_you_should_check_out.gmi 
[20:34]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines E86: Tech Talk: Linux Distro's you should check out
[20:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	i could use irc in dos
[20:34]	starstreak	but it was irc!
[20:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	but it was mirc
[20:34]	starstreak	ahhh
[20:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	i was worried about the software not the protocol
[20:34]	starstreak	i use hexchat now
[20:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	back then i loved netscape
[20:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	especially 4
[20:36]	starstreak	i used netscape 3.04 gold
[20:36]	starstreak	i made my first website with netscape composer
[20:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	 hehe
[20:37]	starstreak	i had a beavis and butthead site
[20:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	nice
[20:37]	loner	such conversations of yours make it difficult to read this channel, and the backlog
[20:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	i had a tshirt, but no website
[20:38]	loner	just in case, there was anything relevant in between
[20:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	also the movie soundtrack
[20:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	which still has some good songs
[20:38]	starstreak	the movie soundtrack was amazing
[20:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	red hot chili peppers, sir mixalot, white zombie
[20:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me has been on a big 90s kick lately anyway
[20:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean, im kinda too old for this shit
[20:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	but then again
[20:41]	loner	90s were bad times
[20:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont care
[20:41]	loner	mass unemployment
[20:41]	loner	and the mountains of electronics waste piling up to the dot com bubble, which, sadly, never busted as it should have
[20:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=SEQycU_fk3s
[20:42]	TR Bot	 My Baby's In Love With Eddie Vedder - Invidious
[20:42]	TR News	Tales Tips and Tricks: GSoC 2022 Final Report https://tales-aparecida.github.io/tales-tips-and-tricks/posts/dri-devel/gsoc-final-report/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//tales-aparecida.github.io/tales-tips-and-tricks/posts/dri-devel/gsoc-final-report/
[20:42]	TR Bot	 Tales Tips and Tricks
[20:43]	TR News	Live Raizo 13.22.09.11 https://sourceforge.net/projects/live-raizo/
[20:43]	TR Bot	Raizo - Linux for Virtual SysAdmin download | SourceForge.net
[20:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me is jealous
[20:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	wrong window :)
[20:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	this is why the font is in red...
[20:54]	schestowitz[TR]	loner: 
[20:54]	schestowitz[TR]	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IdHrNVRXSPw
[20:54]	TR Bot	 The Mr. T Experience - Even Hitler Had a Girlfriend (Acoustic Cover) - Invidious
[20:56]	TR News	There are unintended consequences here https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-recovers-over-30-million-in-cryptocurrency-stolen-by-north-korean-hackers-11662648600
[20:56]	TR Bot	Recovers Over $30 Million in Cryptocurrency Stolen by North Korean Hackers - WSJ
[20:57]	TR News	TikTok https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/19/technology/tiktok-browser-tracking.html
[20:57]	TR Bot	 TikTok Browser Can Track Users Keystrokes, According to New Research - The New York Times
[20:57]	TR News	Your smartphone could recognise you just by the way you hold it | New Scientist https://www.newscientist.com/article/2334048-your-smartphone-could-recognise-you-just-by-the-way-you-hold-it/ Source: New Scientist | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.newscientist.com/article/2334048-your-smartphone-could-recognise-you-just-by-the-way-you-hold-it/
[20:57]	TR Bot	 Your smartphone could recognise you just by the way you hold it | New Scientist
[20:58]	TR News	How to Find Optimal Clusters in R? - Data Science Tutorials https://datasciencetut.com/how-to-find-optimal-clusters-in-r/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//datasciencetut.com/how-to-find-optimal-clusters-in-r/
[20:58]	TR Bot	 How to Find Optimal Clusters in R? - Data Science Tutorials
[20:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.95 k/sec., IPFS upstream 119.13 average k/sec., average swarm size 145.88
● Sep 11
[21:00]	loner	"Grosse Teile der deutschen Wirtschaft stehen kurz vor dem Kollaps"
[21:00]	starstreak	<highest_cubist_thrills> i mean, im kinda too old for this shit
[21:00]	starstreak	im 37
[21:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah
[21:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	its funny because
[21:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	you come off as about 20
[21:01]	loner	schestowitz[TR]: i don't watch any youtube
[21:01]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, thank you :)
[21:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	but its very obvious from the references you make and your career that youre well out of school
[21:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	i was going to tease you about being old earlier
[21:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	when you were like
[21:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	netscape 3
[21:01]	starstreak	i was in college for paralegal school a few years ago
[21:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	i was going to say "ha, you must be about 50"
[21:01]	starstreak	lol
[21:02]	starstreak	i have a six digit icq number
[21:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	but 37 sounds right
[21:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	and you use arch btw
[21:02]	starstreak	i used gentoo back in 2003
[21:02]	starstreak	i use arch btw
[21:02]	TR News	"The Labor government announced that the $18m charity endorsed by the Governor-General, funded by the taxpayer, headed by a low-profile businessman, and with only the vaguest mandate, would be scrapped. But will David Hurley survive this?" https://michaelwest.com.au/god-save-the-governor-general/
[21:02]	TR Bot	 God save the Governor-General? - Michael West
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[21:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	 :)
[21:03]	TR News	"King Charles III presents a vexed dilemma for the Albanese government as it proceeds with the referendum to enshrine an Indigenous voice in the constitution, writes Mark Sawyer." https://michaelwest.com.au/elizabeths-legacy-the-enduring-australian-monarchy/
[21:03]	TR Bot	 Elizabeths legacy: the enduring Australian monarchy - Michael West
[21:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	i used gentoo back in 2003 <- respect!
[21:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	in 2003 i had no prayer of using gentoo
[21:03]	starstreak	:)
[21:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	i was noob-as-fuck
[21:04]	starstreak	i used it because i wanted kernel 2.6
[21:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	heh
[21:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats funny, i tried to avoid kernel 3 for a while
[21:04]	loner	in 2003 i used a maths book, pencil and paper
[21:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	even swapped laptops with someone because my new laptop had sata
[21:04]	loner	imagine this
[21:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	and my kernel didnt support  it :)
[21:04]	TR News	The man who wont lie down: Australian ice hockey still getting snowed https://michaelwest.com.au/australian-ice-hockey-still-getting-snowed/ Source: Michael West Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/australian-ice-hockey-still-getting-snowed/
[21:04]	TR Bot	 The man who won't lie down: Australian ice hockey still getting snowed
[21:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	but it was SO FAST!
[21:04]	loner	no time for any of the shitware
[21:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	SO FREAKING FAST
[21:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	and the 3.x kernel wasnt as fast
[21:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	(im not sure it was the kernel. there was loads of shit i didnt know then)
[21:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	also this was 2004, not 3
[21:05]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, funny you say i sound 20, i also look 20
[21:05]	starstreak	i get carded all the time for cigs
[21:05]	TR News	"Meanness. Lies. Slander. Political differences. Personal attacks. Us vs Them attitudes. The Linux, Open Source, and broader Tech industry is no stranger to these bits-o-yuckiness. And there are many ways to deal with them." https://lunduke.substack.com/p/how-lunduke-handles-conflict-personal http://techrights.org/2022/04/28/straw-men-issue/
[21:05]	TR Bot	 How Lunduke handles conflict, personal attacks, & political differences in the Tech industry
[21:05]	TR Bot	 Lunduke Touches an Important Set of Issues, But Still Gets Pertinent Details a Little Wrong | Techrights
[21:07]	TR News	"But they expect more than a tick and flick by companies when it comes to backing up their claims on environmental values, gender and racial inclusion or stamping out slavery." https://michaelwest.com.au/why-corporate-green-washing-causing-stir/
[21:07]	TR Bot	 Why corporate 'green-washing' causing stir - Michael West
[21:08]	TR News	"The prosecution of Bernard Collaery was dropped after pressure from Timor-Leste and fears of Chinas expansion. Its not great news for other whistleblowers such as David McBride, Richard Boyle or Julian Assange." https://michaelwest.com.au/timor-leste-oil-and-gas-delivered-justice-to-bernard-collaery/
[21:08]	TR Bot	 Spies Like Us: how Timor's oil and gas delivered justice to Bernard Collaery - Michael West
[21:09]	TR News	Bryan Lunduke's very bizarre humour [soc] https://lunduke.substack.com/p/breaking-linux-company-suse-sold
[21:09]	TR Bot	 Breaking: Linux company SUSE sold to Taco Bell
[21:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	i also look 20 <- and youre on the spectrum somehow?
[21:10]	starstreak	the autism spectrum? yes
[21:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	mmhmm
[21:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats the thing
[21:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	people on the spectrum look just about 20 until theyre like... 45
[21:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	i know this is a gross generalisation
[21:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	but its sort of true, im sure you noticed
[21:10]	starstreak	yes
[21:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	so yeah
[21:11]	TR News	"Youre not always going to be able to remove all buzzwords, of coursefor one thing, your boss might be a big fan of them." https://intelligentediting.com/blog/42-super-annoying-buzzwords-and-buzzphrases-and-what-to-do-about-them/ "Lets put it this way: At the end of the day, ditching buzzwords would be a win-win"
[21:11]	TR Bot	 42 of the most annoying buzzwords and what to do about them. | PerfectIt | Proofreading Software for Professionals.
[21:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats how i picture you 
[21:11]	starstreak	:3
[21:11]	starstreak	i'd say my mind is in my 20s too
[21:11]	starstreak	i still like new music
[21:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah i like the 2000s
[21:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	i like electronica
[21:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	i even like new stuff from u2, so obviously i have no pride at all
[21:13]	starstreak	my fav is 2000s 
[21:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me hates bono, but good music!
[21:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	bono is like if windows made music but it didnt suck
[21:13]	starstreak	lol
[21:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me checks github for new album
[21:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	talk about a guilty pleasure, i feel less terrible about debbie gibson
[21:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	"and that bitch anne murray too!"
[21:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	just kidding, no one listens to anne murray
[21:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	even anne murray is like "ive never heard of her"
[21:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	she has but she wont admit it
[21:15]	starstreak	who is anne murray
[21:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	exactly
[21:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	no shes some candian singer from like
[21:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	the 1970s
[21:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	i only mention her because shes in the lyrics of "blame canada"
[21:16]		*psydroid3 has quit (connection closed)
[21:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	i HAVe actually seen an anne murray lp in a shop though
[21:17]	starstreak	blame canada is hilarious
[21:17]	schestowitz[TR]	obno is buddies with billg
[21:18]	schestowitz[TR]	and both defraud people with fake charities
[21:18]	schestowitz[TR]	*bono
[21:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah hes a turd of a person
[21:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	i hate him
[21:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	but he writes lovely things :)
[21:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	blame canada! blame canada! with all their hockey hullaballoo-- and that bitch anne murray too!
[21:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[21:20]	TR News	Global vs. local assignment operators in R | by Trevor French | Trevor French | Sep, 2022 | Medium https://medium.com/trevor-french/global-vs-local-assignment-operators-in-r-vs-3768d770aaf6
[21:20]	TR Bot	vs. local assignment operators in R (<<- vs. <-) | by Trevor French | Trevor French | Sep, 2022 | Medium
[21:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me even blames canada for bono
[21:21]	TR News	Visualizing OLS Linear Regression Assumptions in R | by Trevor French | Trevor French | Sep, 2022 | Medium https://medium.com/trevor-french/visualizing-ols-linear-regression-assumptions-in-r-e762ba7afaff
[21:21]	TR Bot	OLS Linear Regression Assumptions in R | by Trevor French | Trevor French | Sep, 2022 | Medium
[21:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	dont ask me why
[21:21]	schestowitz[TR]	highest_cubist_thrills: o canada
[21:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	casey ksem though they were from england :)
[21:21]	schestowitz[TR]	b 'o n 'o canada
[21:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	"these guys are from england and who gives a shit?"^ casey kasem being HARDCORE
[21:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	jinkies!
[21:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	<schestowitz[TR]> b 'o n 'o canada <- exac tly
[21:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	he gets it
[21:22]	schestowitz[TR]	on friday we went to a local shop for ethical food and they played bono's "it's a beautiful day'
[21:22]	schestowitz[TR]	loud
[21:22]	schestowitz[TR]	less than a day after lizzie had died
[21:24]	TR News	Notes of a Dabbler - Exploring OMPR with HiGHS solver https://www.notesofdabbler.com/posts/post_2022_09_11/index.html Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.notesofdabbler.com/posts/post_2022_09_11/index.html
[21:24]	TR Bot	 Notes of a Dabbler - Exploring OMPR with HiGHS solver
[21:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	ethical food :)
[21:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	nice to know the ethical source people were able to pivot
[21:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me gets the recipe for ethical food from github
[21:25]	TR News	How to Concatenate Strings in R https://fluentprogramming.com/concatenate-strings-in-r/
[21:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	i have mixed feelings about beautiful day
[21:25]	TR Bot	 How to Concatenate Strings in R
[21:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	i like the song
[21:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	i wish i didnt
[21:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	there are references to it when french and saunders make fun of the cranberries
[21:25]	starstreak	lol
[21:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	the video is basically bono running through an airport and being the complete set of twunts that he truly is
[21:26]	TR News	Professional Shiny App UI and Layouts with imola and shiny.fluent - R programming https://appsilon.com/professional-shiny-app-ui/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//appsilon.com/professional-shiny-app-ui/
[21:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	which i think is appropriate
[21:26]	TR Bot	 Professional Shiny App UI and Layouts with imola and shiny.fluent - R programming
[21:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	beacuse its honest?
[21:27]	schestowitz[TR]	"twunts"
[21:27]	schestowitz[TR]	is this a combination of two bad words?
[21:27]	schestowitz[TR]	twit and kant?
[21:28]	DaemonFC	That's like Archer where they keep saying that woman's last name, "Tunt", all the time.
[21:28]	DaemonFC	Like, you know what they're doing.
[21:28]	schestowitz[TR]	nono means not good
[21:28]	schestowitz[TR]	bon no!
[21:28]	schestowitz[TR]	bono
[21:28]	schestowitz[TR]	mono means cancer
[21:28]	schestowitz[TR]	or moneyboy in spanish
[21:29]	schestowitz[TR]	*monkeyboy
[21:29]	DaemonFC	That's racist.
[21:29]	DaemonFC	I'm offended on behalf of everybody.
[21:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	or moneyboy in spanish  *monkeyboy <- that explains your no mo logo
[21:29]	schestowitz[TR]	bono's mom to the doc
[21:30]	schestowitz[TR]	"it is bon?"
[21:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	 twit and kant? <- yes
[21:30]	schestowitz[TR]	doctor: "no!"
[21:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	its not my invention
[21:30]	schestowitz[TR]	so they called him bono
[21:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	id love to take credit but i c*nt
[21:30]	DaemonFC	"Prepare to eat a Cease and Desist letter from a Paralegal even though I myself have committed libel on no less than dozens of occasions!" - Matt J. GULAG. SUE-PER GENIUS! SOCIAL JUSTICE DALEK!
[21:30]	schestowitz[TR]	better than calling him "mal"
[21:31]	DaemonFC	The US historically hasn't had very much good public television programming.
[21:31]	schestowitz[TR]	when? 
[21:31]	DaemonFC	We used to have Sesame Street and Nova, and some others that were okay. Most of it aimed at children, not all. Edutainment.
[21:31]	schestowitz[TR]	seems iut was good in the 1950s
[21:31]	schestowitz[TR]	some very good programmes and films
[21:31]	schestowitz[TR]	US pioneered a lot of TV stuff
[21:32]	schestowitz[TR]	now it's shit like "reality TV"
[21:32]	schestowitz[TR]	encouraging people to behave poorly
[21:32]	DaemonFC	Yeah, and that was when my dad was in the TV hardware industry.
[21:32]	schestowitz[TR]	and get rewarded 
[21:32]	DaemonFC	Designing better television sets.
[21:32]	DaemonFC	Making them more reliable with better picture and color control.
[21:32]	schestowitz[TR]	for abuse, cheating, promiscuity, greed
[21:32]	DaemonFC	Many sets that he partially designed still work if you turn them on today.
[21:33]	DaemonFC	Even though they rolled off the assembly line in Indiana in the 1980s and 90s.
[21:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	ntsc: never twice the same colour
[21:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	pal: people are lavendar (hehehe)
[21:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	secam: i dont speak french
[21:33]	DaemonFC	If you buy a TV set at Walmart today, fully a third of them will not be working a year later.
[21:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	theres one for secam, but its in english so im sure it doesnt count
[21:33]	DaemonFC	Very high failure rate. They don't care. They warrant them if it fails within the first 12 months.
[21:33]	schestowitz[TR]	profit margins could be improved by outsourcing
[21:33]	DaemonFC	But you go out 5 years and half have failed.
[21:33]	schestowitz[TR]	people paid the price not in the short run
[21:33]	schestowitz[TR]	no jobs, low quality
[21:34]	DaemonFC	People complain "Hey, I just bought this thing two months ago!".
[21:34]	DaemonFC	And you tell them it was made in China or something and there's the problem.
[21:34]	DaemonFC	But they don't demand American TV sets that last 40 years as the solution.
[21:35]	DaemonFC	Because the TV sets that last that long may cost twice as much if anyone started making them here and doing QC on them again.
[21:35]	schestowitz[TR]	I have a stereo from 1993
[21:35]	schestowitz[TR]	we still use it
[21:35]	DaemonFC	And if you don't replace them for 40 years, they don't sell you a TV very often.
[21:35]	DaemonFC	Maybe two or three in your entire life.
[21:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	encouraging people to behave poorly <- not just that
[21:35]	starstreak	i use a 720p tv i got for free
[21:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	its SO CHEAP to produce
[21:36]	schestowitz[TR]	the tape, CD, remote don't work
[21:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	and its stupid and addictive
[21:36]	schestowitz[TR]	tuner and aux sitll OK
[21:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	its just drama and bullshit
[21:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	so is all tv
[21:36]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], It's just like the cars. You still see people driving 1970s cars sometimes.
[21:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	but this is PURE drama and bullshit
[21:36]	DaemonFC	Rust will take them if you're not careful long before they're not worth fixing.
[21:36]	DaemonFC	You can do a complete engine tear down and rebuild and get that working again.
[21:36]	DaemonFC	There's nothing computer controlled on them, no funky sensors.
[21:37]	schestowitz[TR]	damn, there was an article about this days ago
[21:37]	schestowitz[TR]	I can't recall ways to find it
[21:37]	DaemonFC	So it's basically like, no matter how bad the damage is, mechanically, you can fix it and keep using the car.
[21:37]	DaemonFC	They don't make them that way anymore and there's reasons.
[21:37]	schestowitz[TR]	it was about how cars today are expensive and don't last long
[21:38]	schestowitz[TR]	it was a long and detailed article
[21:38]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Yeah, $60,000-$80,000 for something that's going completely screwy on you in about 5 years.
[21:38]	DaemonFC	That's typical.
[21:38]	DaemonFC	You can throw almost any amount of money you want to in the Buick and not have anything THAT terrible.
[21:38]	TR News	"This is a small update: when non-hexadecimal characters are found, they are listed before an exception is raised." https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/09/07/update-hex-to-bin-py-version-0-0-6/
[21:38]	TR Bot	 Update: hex-to-bin.py Version 0.0.6 | Didier Stevens
[21:38]	DaemonFC	Because you also have to get expensive car insurance to satisfy the bank.
[21:39]	DaemonFC	Which you pay 5-6% interest to, if you have GOOD credit.
[21:39]	schestowitz[TR]	people who bought EVs have humble piue now
[21:39]	DaemonFC	Then you have to feed the pig (the government taxes the shit out of new cars).
[21:39]	schestowitz[TR]	withe energy cshortages
[21:39]	TR News	"This is an update for my tool to perform XOR known plaintext attacks: xor-kpa.py. The tool has been updated for Python 3, and 3 new plaintext have been added, all for Cobalt Strike configurations." https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/09/06/update-xor-kpa-py-version-0-0-6/
[21:39]	TR Bot	 Update: xor-kpa.py Version 0.0.6 | Didier Stevens
[21:39]	schestowitz[TR]	even if they find alternative source of electricity they can be shut down remosately
[21:40]	schestowitz[TR]	same for some homes with spy meters, but most spy meters are just passive, for now
[21:40]	DaemonFC	The government is a greedy piglet that will suckle your nipples until they've gone bone dry and are chafed.
[21:40]	DaemonFC	Ron Swanson :)
[21:40]	schestowitz[TR]	the new from texas was something... abotu temperature control refusing to obey tuhe home owner
[21:40]	DaemonFC	I have a tax joke for you......the government here is excellent and they spend my tax money wisely. Ha ha ha.
[21:41]	DaemonFC	I walked up and told that to the city clerk's office in Chicago when I was getting my car's window sticker.
[21:41]	loner	controlling/limiting air-condition and heating can reduce energy consumption very much, that much, almost all problems solved with climate
[21:41]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: you are I are alike in some ways
[21:42]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], That episode of Parks and Rec where Swanson is thoroughly unimpressed by the UK.
[21:42]	schestowitz[TR]	like the use of energy
[21:42]	DaemonFC	"Oh look, a clock. We don't have those in America."
[21:42]	schestowitz[TR]	we pay 2-3 times less than other couples
[21:42]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/08/09/bad-workplace-signs/
[21:42]	TR Bot	 Workplace Signs That Would Honestly Make Me Quit Immediately (20 Pics)
[21:42]	DaemonFC	"History began on July 4th, 1776. Everything before that was a mistake."
[21:42]	schestowitz[TR]	MinceR: clickbait, must open!
[21:42]	MinceR	also everything on that day and since
[21:42]	schestowitz[TR]	my employer makes it hard for me to leave
[21:42]	schestowitz[TR]	I might not even leave until next year
[21:43]	MinceR	roach motel?
[21:43]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], In general our energy bills are lower than other comparable household units, according to the electric company.
[21:44]	DaemonFC	But for a few months out of the year (Summer) the usage is about 60% higher.
[21:44]	DaemonFC	But it spends about 9 months of the year being about 65% lower.
[21:44]	loner	DaemonFC: how many kWh/year total?
[21:45]	DaemonFC	Give me a minute to go load their site and check.
[21:45]	DaemonFC	Of course it's acting up.
[21:45]	DaemonFC	Azure really did a number on the reliability.
[21:46]	DaemonFC	It was up like 99.99999% of the time before Microsoft.
[21:46]	DaemonFC	Now it's just up and down whenever the hell it feels like it.
[21:47]	schestowitz[TR]	MinceR: very american
[21:47]	schestowitz[TR]	the signs
[21:47]	DaemonFC	I don't see much of a national identity in the US anymore.
[21:47]	DaemonFC	In Illinois, the bulk of the population is not religious.
[21:48]	DaemonFC	You drive into Indiana and it's Jesus radio and Jesus billboards everywhere.
[21:48]	schestowitz[TR]	US balkanisatioin
[21:48]	schestowitz[TR]	here it exists in another sene
[21:48]	schestowitz[TR]	dialects
[21:48]	schestowitz[TR]	and foods
[21:49]	schestowitz[TR]	but the rest is quite uniform
[21:49]	schestowitz[TR]	the big cities tend to have more "minorities"
[21:49]	schestowitz[TR]	but the culture is more or less the same
[21:49]	schestowitz[TR]	there is no "liberal" city
[21:49]	schestowitz[TR]	and "MAGA" city
[21:49]	MinceR	11 224706 < schestowitz[TR]> MinceR: very american
[21:49]	MinceR	indeed
[21:49]	schestowitz[TR]	some are maybe made as a part joke
[21:50]	schestowitz[TR]	by disgruntled store owners
[21:50]	schestowitz[TR]	small shops
[21:50]	schestowitz[TR]	when you want to say rude thinkg to people'e face, you immigrate to USA
[21:51]	schestowitz[TR]	my two siblings are in USA ATM
[21:51]	schestowitz[TR]	not liking it at all
[21:51]	DaemonFC	loner, 6023 kWh
[21:51]	schestowitz[TR]	one is on a business trip to Philadelphia 
[21:51]	DaemonFC	501.91 per month, average
[21:51]	loner	DaemonFC: this is an extremely high electricity consumption
[21:52]	schestowitz[TR]	we still manage to keep our bills around or below 100 a month
[21:52]	schestowitz[TR]	but the prices keep rising (per unit)
[21:52]	DaemonFC	I can tell you what the cost is if I look at a bill and figure it out.
[21:52]	schestowitz[TR]	heat conservation methods is something I ought to do a blog post this winter
[21:52]	schestowitz[TR]	tips and tricks
[21:52]	schestowitz[TR]	here they say "eye-eatering power bills"
[21:52]	loner	in germany you would pay ~2000Euros/year
[21:53]	schestowitz[TR]	*Watering
[21:53]	schestowitz[TR]	people here confront energy suppliers
[21:54]	schestowitz[TR]	they see soaring porofits of energy giants
[21:54]	schestowitz[TR]	so they know they're being stiffed
[21:54]	loner	well, energy which doesn't exist cannot be sold nor consumed at any price whatsoever
[21:54]	schestowitz[TR]	one can protest a biy by minimising consumption
[21:54]	schestowitz[TR]	regardless of the rates
[21:54]	loner	non-existing energy cannot be saved either, to safe the planet and climate and god and universe
[21:55]	loner	that's why german politicians are, how should i say, ready to be sent into the madhouse
[21:55]	loner	almost all of them
[21:56]	schestowitz[TR]	a friend of mine paid 250 a month for energy
[21:56]	loner	because, they intend to increase prices and taxes for non-existent energy
[21:56]	schestowitz[TR]	just two people,. both working OUTSIDE home
[21:56]	schestowitz[TR]	not even afctoring int he fuel for the car
[21:56]	loner	and with non-existent energy, they want to cut down consumption, because this saves the planet and whatnot
[21:56]	schestowitz[TR]	so you're looking at like 33350 a month just for energy
[21:57]	schestowitz[TR]	350
[21:57]	DaemonFC	12.841 cents per kWh before taxes and adjustments. 0.0977 cents per kWh adjusted, rounded to the 4th decimal place. Plus state sales tax.
[21:57]	schestowitz[TR]	for people who barely stay at home
[21:57]	schestowitz[TR]	you work like an extra day in the week (sans tax) just to pay for energy
[21:58]	schestowitz[TR]	and drive to work, too
[21:58]	schestowitz[TR]	as the old jokes ago
[21:58]	schestowitz[TR]	buy a car to go to the oiffice
[21:58]	schestowitz[TR]	to earn money to buy a car
[21:58]	schestowitz[TR]	leave home to go to work
[21:58]	schestowitz[TR]	to spend all the time not at the home you pay a mortgage on
[21:58]	schestowitz[TR]	people do irrational things
[21:58]	DaemonFC	10.55 cents per kWh, rounded to the third decimal place, after the state and local sales tax.
[21:59]	schestowitz[TR]	sustaining the things they're too busy to actually USE or ENJOY
[21:59]	loner	DaemonFC: i had seen data of 35cents/kWh already
[21:59]	schestowitz[TR]	I get enough light from the monitors usualluy, and they also emit heat
● Sep 11
[22:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	there is no "liberal" city <- no, because america is big on fake progress
[22:00]	DaemonFC	Without the purchasing adjustment, it would be over 15 cents per kWh by now.
[22:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	its more of an aesthetic than something political
[22:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	progressives exist
[22:00]	schestowitz[TR]	power is about 20 pence kwh here, but rising fast
[22:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	but theyre not part of the DECOR
[22:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	the decor is bullshit
[22:00]	DaemonFC	The nuclear bailout bill says the electric company has to rebate us if prices go high enough that the power would be profitable on its own.
[22:00]	schestowitz[TR]	the sooner people learn to use less, the better off they'll be later
[22:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	(and TASTEFUL. and EXPENSIVE)
[22:00]	DaemonFC	So it claws back some of the bailout money.
[22:01]	schestowitz[TR]	no more "plasma TVs" and crap like that
[22:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	i love very little more than getting a million miles away from it
[22:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	the sooner people learn to use less <- like kde :)
[22:01]	loner	schestowitz[TR]: intersting, hasn't been your new "King" one of those "eco" guys... if so be prepared for 30pence/kWh, at least
[22:01]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: buy outs
[22:01]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], 10.5 cents total isn't bad.
[22:01]	schestowitz[TR]	happens alao in Australia
[22:01]	schestowitz[TR]	taxpayers bails out copmpanies
[22:01]	schestowitz[TR]	the money goes to shareholders
[22:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	uustralia is fascist, no?
[22:01]	schestowitz[TR]	workers fired regardless
[22:02]	schestowitz[TR]	prices rise
[22:02]	DaemonFC	Yeah, ComEd agreed because nobody expected the nuclear plants to be profitable.
[22:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me is tongue in cheek
[22:02]	DaemonFC	Then it happened because of the current energy crisis.
[22:02]	DaemonFC	Gas and coal went sky high and nuclear power became a better deal.
[22:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me was planning to move to australia at one point, but politically
[22:02]	loner	it's interesting two major energy suppliers in germany filed bancruptcy recently, regardless of the excess energy prices
[22:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	YIKES
[22:02]	schestowitz[TR]	highest_cubist_thrills: wrong time
[22:02]	schestowitz[TR]	people escape ausssie
[22:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	sure!
[22:02]	schestowitz[TR]	those who can
[22:02]	loner	i got a theory about this, as said: energy which does not exist cannot be neither sold nor consumed nor taxed nor anything
[22:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	i know
[22:02]	schestowitz[TR]	unless they escape china
[22:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	it didnt work out anyway
[22:02]	schestowitz[TR]	or arab countries
[22:02]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Indiana was going to build a coal gasification plant.
[22:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	or rather it did
[22:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	but not so much for perth
[22:03]	schestowitz[TR]	check out the price of food in australia
[22:03]	DaemonFC	They spent millions of dollars and then scrapped the whole thing.
[22:03]	DaemonFC	It was a disaster.
[22:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean food is always dear
[22:03]	DaemonFC	It would be nice to have that now.
[22:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	in most of the world
[22:03]	loner	it is interesting however, UK and even more so, got far lower energy prices
[22:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	if it wasnt, the whole thing wouldnt work :)
[22:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	npt that it does
[22:03]	XRevan86	CIT (War in Ukraine): https://telegra.ph/Dispatch-for-September-10-09-11
[22:03]	loner	USA
[22:03]	TR Bot	 Dispatch for September 10 Telegraph
[22:03]	DaemonFC	Coal is an extremely nasty power source, but NIPSCO was going to turn it into synthetic natural gas.
[22:03]	schestowitz[TR]	highest_cubist_thrills: uk siunsidises some
[22:03]	DaemonFC	So that it would burn a lot cleaner.
[22:03]	schestowitz[TR]	esp. wheat-base
[22:03]	schestowitz[TR]	*based
[22:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	i miss the uk
[22:04]	schestowitz[TR]	*subsidises
[22:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	but fuck am i glad im not there
[22:04]	XRevan86	https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/09/11/ukraine-captures-checkpoint-hoptivka-on-border-with-russia-news "Ukraine captures checkpoint Hoptivka on border with Russia"
[22:04]	TR Bot	 . 
[22:04]	schestowitz[TR]	there is a lot of very cheap food here, if you're not picky about brands
[22:04]	DaemonFC	Then you just dump the crap that would have come out of the smoke stack had it been burned directly off where nobody gives a shit.
[22:04]	loner	DaemonFC: however, there is one very important difference between coal and "renewables", coal power plants do supply energy
[22:04]	DaemonFC	And voila.
[22:04]	schestowitz[TR]	we pay only about 3 pounda a day for food, 1.50 pp
[22:04]	DaemonFC	We have a big desert. That would have been a good idea.
[22:04]	DaemonFC	Dump the pollutants out in a hole in the desert.
[22:04]	loner	and, even when sun is shining and wind is blowing, even then "renewables" do not deliver anything anywhere close to what they said
[22:04]	DaemonFC	Fill it back in.
[22:05]	loner	it's a scam, the worst scam in economic history 
[22:05]	DaemonFC	It's hundreds of miles away from anyone and it doesn't rain.
[22:05]	DaemonFC	So problem solved.
[22:05]	schestowitz[TR]	I should sit down,far too mmany typos, sorry about that..
[22:05]	DaemonFC	Of course the libtards would never go for it.
[22:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	BRETURN will come
[22:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	regardless of the fact that the eu is bs
[22:06]	TR News	INSANE! https://rubenerd.com/discovering-that-850w-sfx-power-supplies-exist/
[22:06]	TR Bot	Discovering 850 watt SFX power supplies exist
[22:06]	schestowitz[TR]	"But I thought 750 watts was the highest one could go in this form factor, which limited hardware options like graphics cards.
[22:06]	schestowitz[TR]	"
[22:06]	DaemonFC	mjg59_, would find an endangered lizard that's being poisoned anyway because of the trash that illegal Mexican immigrants throw everywhere and the Rio Grande coming back into the US all polluted and nasty from being in Mexico.
[22:06]	schestowitz[TR]	psydruid: ^
[22:06]	schestowitz[TR]	now we know why energy ciris ;-)
[22:06]	DaemonFC	Where the environmental laws are "Dump whatever you want in the river and anyone who sees it better keep their fuckin' mouth shut."
[22:06]	schestowitz[TR]	people who 'mine coin' and do gaming rigs"
[22:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	<schestowitz[TR]> esp. wheat-base <- so the billgmos then
[22:07]	schestowitz[TR]	*energy crisis
[22:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	same as usa
[22:07]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Texas is insane.
[22:07]	schestowitz[TR]	using hundrefs of watts for tasks that should take 5 vioolts
[22:07]	schestowitz[TR]	and can run on aaa batteries
[22:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	using hundrefs of watts for tasks that should take 5 vioolts <- /me explains e=ir and p=ie
[22:07]	DaemonFC	It's unbelievable that the power grid is going to collapse and all ERCOT does is ask Shitcoin miners politely if they'd stop using 16% of the power in the grid.
[22:07]	DaemonFC	Please and thank you.
[22:08]	DaemonFC	Insane. Total insanity.
[22:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	to be fair though
[22:08]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: they progit from them
[22:08]	schestowitz[TR]	the bills
[22:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	if it takes 5 volts its proabbly NOT drawing "hundreds of watts"
[22:08]	schestowitz[TR]	and shortages mean they can charge more
[22:08]	schestowitz[TR]	highest_cubist_thrills: worked a lot on the raspi today
[22:08]	schestowitz[TR]	it takes hardly anything
[22:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	im sorry
[22:09]	schestowitz[TR]	I also turned all the LEDs off
[22:09]	schestowitz[TR]	months ago
[22:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	lol
[22:09]	schestowitz[TR]	that should save a bit
[22:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	premature optimisation?
[22:09]	schestowitz[TR]	reduces CPU load and light
[22:09]	DaemonFC	The funny part about people using the "Griddy" app and then getting a $40,000 electric bill while they had no power and were freezing in their home.....
[22:09]	psydruid	schestowitz[TR]: I haven't built or bought a new desktop since 2009. I used mine for 3-4 years while I was waiting for laptops and later SBCs to catch up. I am completely disconnected from the reality of people who buy and use such hardware.
[22:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	mmhmm
[22:09]	DaemonFC	Was that Griddy was an app in California, from San Francisco, which did nothing.
[22:09]	schestowitz[TR]	I started switching off all the screens   while afk
[22:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	sbcs are the future
[22:09]	DaemonFC	Like the kind of shit mjg59_ does for a living.
[22:09]	psydruid	I just ignore all the talk about such systems and power supplies.
[22:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	they still suck, because non-free hardware will be abused / is of course, abused
[22:10]	schestowitz[TR]	yeah
[22:10]	schestowitz[TR]	good plan, psydruid 
[22:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	this isnt a tech issue, this is about capitalism
[22:10]	schestowitz[TR]	"Turns out, in the time I looked there are a few 850 W, which is what the 6900XT and 3080 recommend. Heres EVGAs, which fortunately is called a Supernova, not a Collateral Damage, Shootout, Vengence, or Hyper-Extreme Fury. Ah, PC hardware manufacturers, always at the forefront of class and taste!"
[22:10]	psydruid	I am aware of what's out there and the numbers never make sense.
[22:10]	DaemonFC	mjg59_'s contributions to Linux have mostly been as useful to users as if he had been out digging holes and then shoveling the dirt back in, or worse.
[22:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	but it will be a tech issue, when its not a capitalism issue
[22:10]	schestowitz[TR]	"I guess the bigger question is whether youd want to run these cards in a confined space, even if you could. The NR200P is an airflow-focused case, but I already feel like Id be pushing its thermal limits with anything more than it currently has. But its also where the industry is trending.
[22:10]	loner	problem is, going low-power certainly does exlude particular software development possibilities
[22:10]	DaemonFC	San Francisco is a shithole based on fraud.
[22:10]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: mjg59_ used to do good work
[22:10]	schestowitz[TR]	like ACPI
[22:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	and the numbers never make sense <- they make perfect sense, every quarter!
[22:10]	DaemonFC	So it's very natural that Griddy was based there.
[22:10]	loner	none that i would miss, however it's the typical software which is pushed by the industry
[22:11]	schestowitz[TR]	he should have told the boss "no" when assigned to shit projects
[22:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	acpi is a trojan horse, says elon musks good side
[22:11]	loner	try to compile chromium browser on SBC with 5watts power draw... 
[22:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	only joking, i meant shuttleworth. he fucking wishes he was elon musk
[22:11]	loner	or compile libreoffice... this crap is gone
[22:11]	schestowitz[TR]	loner: rarely a need for such a monster "app"
[22:11]	schestowitz[TR]	the main cpu hog is ipfs
[22:11]	DaemonFC	For about the last 10 years, mjg59_ has been worse than doing nothing for Linux users.
[22:11]	schestowitz[TR]	I turned off the lights 
[22:12]	DaemonFC	It's all been trash like "Security Theater Boot".
[22:12]	schestowitz[TR]	and throttled it down
[22:12]	DaemonFC	Worse, he's a troll who likes to defame useful people.
[22:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	ipfs isnt so bad if you know what youre doing
[22:12]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: yes
[22:12]	schestowitz[TR]	guilt.
[22:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	doubtful.
[22:12]	schestowitz[TR]	the self-describeeed "SJW" people are like that
[22:12]	DaemonFC	BtrFS patches lately have been.....most interesting.
[22:13]	schestowitz[TR]	they try to tear things down
[22:13]	schestowitz[TR]	inc. people who succeed more than them
[22:13]	schestowitz[TR]	they want to b ring them down to their level
[22:13]	DaemonFC	I like a lot of what I'm seeing, but at least one of them has been incredibly disturbing.
[22:13]	schestowitz[TR]	it amkes them feel powerful
[22:13]	schestowitz[TR]	hence taking on Torvalds, RMS etc.
[22:13]	schestowitz[TR]	like those two people are "horrible" 
[22:13]	schestowitz[TR]	they couldn't thinkl oif taking on biollG
[22:13]	DaemonFC	They said that they're seeing extent tree inconsistencies and have no idea where it's coming from, but have added a check to make sure it's not happening before the data gets pushed out to the file system.
[22:13]	DaemonFC	That's not very re-assuring.
[22:13]	schestowitz[TR]	no, bill does advertising with rainbows and stuff
[22:14]	schestowitz[TR]	while he looks foreward toi the next plane trip with "jeff"
[22:14]	loner	DaemonFC: it's the death certificate for BtrFS
[22:14]	schestowitz[TR]	a decade later btrfs still lacks mass adoption
[22:14]	schestowitz[TR]	FB pushed it for a wehile with chris mason
[22:14]	DaemonFC	Well, I'm just not seeing anyone coming along with better ideas for future storage.
[22:15]	psydruid	I compiled openoffice on my lemote fuloong 2e back in 2009, as I helped getting support upstreamed. It just took 24 hours for a build to finish, so I tried to do as much building and testing as possible on x86.
[22:15]	schestowitz[TR]	but you don't hear much about it anymore
[22:15]	DaemonFC	ZFS sure isn't the solution.
[22:15]	loner	let me ask, is BtrFS on "stable" branch in linux?
[22:15]	schestowitz[TR]	fedora played around with it for a while
[22:15]	schestowitz[TR]	afaik, rhel does not come with it by default
[22:15]	DaemonFC	loner, For about 9 years I believe.
[22:15]	schestowitz[TR]	not on any partititon
[22:15]	DaemonFC	But only recently can it be used with any reliability.
[22:15]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: I don't need zfs features anyway
[22:15]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe a lot of businesses do
[22:15]	DaemonFC	I wouldn't recommend it unless you have a fairly recent kernel.
[22:15]	DaemonFC	No older than 5.13 or so.
[22:15]	schestowitz[TR]	but ordinary and well understoof FSes seem to work OK
[22:16]	loner	testing nilfs2 for 6month now
[22:16]	schestowitz[TR]	openzfs =m MS shithub
[22:16]	DaemonFC	There was a major refactoring going on last year into this year that finally pruned a bunch of nasty BtrFS-specific code in favor of the VFS.
[22:16]	DaemonFC	So it's getting better by way of shoving common functionality out to the VFS, which has been better written, better tested, and more thoroughly debugged.
[22:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	 the self-describeeed "SJW" people are like that
[22:17]	TR News	Quickpost: Sun Drying Biodegradable Waste | Didier Stevens https://blog.didierstevens.com/2022/09/08/quickpost-sun-drying-biodegradable-waste/ Source: Didier Stevens | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.didierstevens.com/2022/09/08/quickpost-sun-drying-biodegradable-waste/
[22:17]	TR Bot	 Quickpost: Sun Drying Biodegradable Waste | Didier Stevens
[22:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	https://wrongwithfreesw.neocities.org/what-role-did-anarchists-play-in-destroying-free-software.html
[22:18]	TR Bot	 everything wrong with free software
[22:18]	DaemonFC	You REALLY don't want a file system that's well known for trashing data. Old BtrFS had a lot of people who said "Oh I've been using it for years and it's fine." and then one day it became corrupt and no way to fix it.
[22:18]	DaemonFC	Whoops.
[22:18]	DaemonFC	But I think we're past that.
[22:18]	TR News	Should You Delete Your Patreon Account After They Laid Off Their Entire Security Team? https://soatok.blog/2022/09/09/should-you-delete-your-patreon-account-after-they-laid-off-their-entire-security-team/
[22:18]	TR Bot	 Should You Delete Your Patreon Account After They Laid Off Their Entire Security Team? - Dhole Moments
[22:19]	TR News	"This is not the first time Eurofurence has started a pointless attempt to control fursuiters and punish people for poodling (wearing some, but not all, parts of their fursuit at once). Theyve had this particular brand of brainworms for years." https://soatok.blog/2022/09/06/hobbies-dont-need-to-be-policed/
[22:19]	TR Bot	 Hobbies Dont Need to be Policed - Dhole Moments
[22:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	all my lefty friends think an-coms are rediculous by the way
[22:19]	TR News	"Professionals wearing mascot outfits at theme parks are instructed to never remove their characters heads in the company of guests, because it might traumatize children to discover that e.g. their favorite Disney character is actually an adult wearing a costume." https://soatok.blog/2022/09/06/hobbies-dont-need-to-be-policed/
[22:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	except one or two of them
[22:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	ridiculous too
[22:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[22:20]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], I think I'll use one of those washing machines in the hallway that's already fucked anyway to re-dye this pair of overalls.
[22:20]	DaemonFC	Walmart gave me a refund. There's nothing to lose except the $3 I spend trying to re-dye them in the wash.
[22:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	also mincer is obviously anarchist and i think hes swell
[22:20]	TR News	"Another service, Lexica, is a search engine seeded with over 5 million SD prompt-image pairs from the Stable Diffusion discord. It's useful for figuring out what artists and concepts the model understands" https://matt-rickard.com/prompt-engineering
[22:20]	TR Bot	 Two Approaches to Prompt Engineering
[22:20]	DaemonFC	And then if the stupid washer starts spitting out dye, it won't be my washer that does it.
[22:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	cynical as a dozen fucks, but swell nonetheless
[22:21]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: worse:
[22:21]	schestowitz[TR]	it ruins other garments
[22:21]	schestowitz[TR]	we had curtains like these
[22:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	sjwism is still a disease
[22:21]	schestowitz[TR]	bought cheaply
[22:21]	schestowitz[TR]	released the colours, "shared" that dye with other garments
[22:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	and mincer is obviously aware of that
[22:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	hes no sjw, if hes anarchist, hes not that kind
[22:22]	schestowitz[TR]	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=z1fGD_gTxTo
[22:22]	TR Bot	 Dog Eat Dog Isms - Invidious
[22:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	(i dont know what he is, but im pretty sure i know what he isnt)
[22:22]	schestowitz[TR]	i have the original CD :-)
[22:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	the master copy?
[22:23]	schestowitz[TR]	no
[22:23]	schestowitz[TR]	the album
[22:23]	schestowitz[TR]	got it cheaply in the 90s
[22:23]	schestowitz[TR]	it aplayed a lot on my steros
[22:23]	schestowitz[TR]	when the CD tray still worked
[22:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	all the best 90s stuff i got used in the 2000s
[22:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	but i bought it at full price... back when cd stores existed
[22:24]	schestowitz[TR]	that's where I got it
[22:24]	schestowitz[TR]	they had diccscounted sectionbs
[22:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me even remembers cassette tapes
[22:24]	schestowitz[TR]	like really cheap
[22:24]	schestowitz[TR]	2 pounds
[22:24]	schestowitz[TR]	esp. classics
[22:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	in 2002 i finally got an 8 track player
[22:24]	schestowitz[TR]	like sinatra collections, remastered oftentimes
[22:24]	schestowitz[TR]	or sets of 2-3 CDs
[22:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	i had OOOEEEEeenNEEEe eeeIIIGTTTTHHH TRRRRRRRAaaaAAAAAAAAAcj
[22:25]	schestowitz[TR]	you said you mashed them all
[22:25]	schestowitz[TR]	due to them suing that moteher
[22:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	but 90% are ampex carts and they turn to jelly
[22:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	and then they dont play for shit
[22:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	so thats pointless
[22:25]	schestowitz[TR]	ter something?
[22:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	fucker?
[22:25]	schestowitz[TR]	I forgot her name
[22:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	OH!
[22:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	yes
[22:25]	schestowitz[TR]	they wanted like 240,000 for a couple dozen tracdks she shared BACK
[22:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	i actually know what youre referring to
[22:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	mmhmm
[22:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	jammie thomas
[22:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	yes i do not have a cd collection anymor
[22:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	nor have i had one since that time
[22:26]	schestowitz[TR]	shame
[22:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	no its cool
[22:26]	schestowitz[TR]	they are physical coipies
[22:26]	schestowitz[TR]	tapes last longer
[22:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	well about that
[22:26]	schestowitz[TR]	but today's media and port types don't last long
[22:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	sround 2003
[22:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	which is before i migrated to gnu/linux completely
[22:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	that was 2007
[22:27]	schestowitz[TR]	I converted many of my CDs to ogg
[22:27]	DaemonFC	There we go. I got some blue dye for my overalls. I need to be careful with the blue dye or else I'l be blue da-ba-dee da-ba-dye. I'll have a blue house with a blue window. Blue is the color of all that I wear! Blue are the trees and all the people too! I have a Mandy, and he is so blue.
[22:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean the name of the game is redundancy
[22:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah i converted to mp3 originally
[22:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	i know, i predicted mp3 in the 80s
[22:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	but REALLLY i predicted flac
[22:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	why would it be lossy
[22:27]	schestowitz[TR]	playing CDs  is not energy-efficient
[22:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	but lossy won :/
[22:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	it did
[22:27]	schestowitz[TR]	now we have othr storage
[22:27]	schestowitz[TR]	without spinning platters
[22:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	i never used flac, i only thought it was better (because it it iis)
[22:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	im not an audiophile, im a technologist
[22:28]	schestowitz[TR]	and no optical rays
[22:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	in 2003 i started moving music to mp3
[22:28]	schestowitz[TR]	flac is good is you have hifi systems
[22:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	i would make cdrs, of mp3s
[22:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	full albums
[22:28]	schestowitz[TR]	it's funny when ryan boats sbout flak
[22:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	7 albums per cd!
[22:28]	schestowitz[TR]	but then uses some cheapo PC speakers
[22:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	ryan is right about flac, its just irrelevant that hes right
[22:29]	schestowitz[TR]	a two piece set of "sound bar" (1)0
[22:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	yes, get some nice speakers
[22:29]	DaemonFC	Cheapo PC speakers?
[22:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	i have dj monitors
[22:29]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: or sound bar
[22:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	they were all i ould get, and they were cheap
[22:29]	schestowitz[TR]	the marketed BS
[22:29]	DaemonFC	I have the Bose system and I also have my headphones.
[22:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	theres NO EXCUSE for shit speakers
[22:29]	schestowitz[TR]	they sell you ONE speaker now
[22:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	get some dj monitors
[22:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	best $100 youll ever spend
[22:29]	schestowitz[TR]	for like 10 times they price they used to sell a pair for
[22:29]	schestowitz[TR]	and they make it sound "tendy"
[22:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	tell MARISOL to eat a bag of dicks
[22:29]	schestowitz[TR]	*trendy"
[22:29]	DaemonFC	Yeah, I don't have the one speaker.
[22:29]	DaemonFC	I have the one designed by Amar Bose.
[22:29]	schestowitz[TR]	wwwe used to have a sounbar called subwoofer
[22:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	with her earpods
[22:30]	schestowitz[TR]	and now they sell the whole system in one piece
[22:30]	schestowitz[TR]	and charge a load of money
[22:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me deliberately gets the name wrong
[22:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	in 2003 i moved to mp3
[22:30]	schestowitz[TR]	<DaemonFC> I have the one designed by Amar Bose.
[22:30]	schestowitz[TR]	DESIGNER speakers
[22:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	(i dont have those either btw)
[22:30]	DaemonFC	Something bad just happened to my QT apps in Flatpak.
[22:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	mp3 on cd though
[22:30]	schestowitz[TR]	goes well with DESGINER SHOES
[22:30]	DaemonFC	THe window controls are all gone.
[22:30]	DaemonFC	Well, this is nice.
[22:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	i had a 486 dx2 (headless) running DOS and QBASIC
[22:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	from a floppy-- no monitor, no keyboard
[22:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	NO HARD DRIVE!
[22:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	just a cd and a floppy
[22:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	why no hd? because... i could have a hd for other machines
[22:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	this was my headless keyboardless hd-less stereo
[22:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	i had it connected to the aux of some pioneer or aiwa stereo
[22:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	(my dj monitors are cheaper and higher quality by far)
[22:32]	DaemonFC	Okay I pushed flatpak update manually and now the window controls are back.
[22:32]	DaemonFC	Weird.
[22:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	the only "setting" was loop or shuffle
[22:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	qbasic (booted from floppy) figured out that setting not from the kb (it had no kb) but from the WRITE PROTECT TAB of the floppy
[22:32]	TR News	No, CDNs have become an outsourcing thing (risk), as few people bother making their own (w.g. varnish for caching or HA) https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/what-is-a-cdn-and-why-you-need-it/
[22:32]	TR Bot	is a CDN and Why You Need It? - RoseHosting
[22:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	so one way was shuffle, other setting was loop
[22:33]	DaemonFC	I use Okular because KDE has a much better document reader than GNOME does.
[22:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	it used some dos mp3 player
[22:33]	DaemonFC	But I bring it in with Flatpak.
[22:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	it obviously loaded whatever dos wanted for the atapi layer
[22:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	what was it called? its not important
[22:33]	TR News	Wanna speed up your site? Don't use a CDN, make the site lighter. Most sites can be easily made 10+ times leaner and faster.
[22:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	the os was on the floppy. qb was on the floppy
[22:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	my program was on the floppy
[22:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	the mp3 player was on the floppy
[22:33]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz[TR]> DESIGNER speakers
[22:33]	DaemonFC	I just replaced the earpads on my headphones.
[22:34]	schestowitz[TR]	for marisol
[22:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	to play 7 albums you inserted the cd, thats it
[22:34]		*psydruid also got the Dog Eat Dog album at a discount
[22:34]	schestowitz[TR]	ah
[22:34]	schestowitz[TR]	same album?
[22:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	the shuffle or loop was set by how the write protect tab on floppy was set
[22:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	i was really proud of that thing
[22:34]	schestowitz[TR]	they only had one major hit
[22:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	threw it out when i moved
[22:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	the software was not hard to write
[22:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	for fucks sake it was a very simple qbasic program
[22:34]	schestowitz[TR]	would they allow such videos today? https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Rnr2CKfH0Pc
[22:34]	TR Bot	 Dog Eat Dog Expect The Unexpected - Invidious
[22:35]	psydruid	yes
[22:35]	psydruid	No Fronts is the song I remember being played the most
[22:35]	schestowitz[TR]	oddly enough today I have been listening to ukranian classic a lot
[22:35]	schestowitz[TR]	from 15 years ago
[22:35]	schestowitz[TR]	*ukrainian classics
[22:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	i heard a cover of bronski beat yesterday
[22:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	at a coffee shop
[22:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	oliver platt?
[22:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	for all i know thats the guy from bronksi beat, otherwise its a cover
[22:36]	schestowitz[TR]	rianne thinks it's russian
[22:36]	schestowitz[TR]	she cannot tell the difference
[22:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	if its the same guy, his voice sure got deeper
[22:37]	schestowitz[TR]	it's like telling hangul and nippon apart
[22:37]	schestowitz[TR]	you pick up some words
[22:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah i cant tell russian from ukranian
[22:37]	DaemonFC	Opus is fine.
[22:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	id have to be russian or ukranian to tell 
[22:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats what we have xrevan for
[22:37]	DaemonFC	MP3 and Ogg Vorbis were basically both designed wrong, but Vorbis was at least much better.
[22:37]	psydruid	it's not that easy to tell ukrainian and russian apart for people who are unfamiliar with them
[22:38]	schestowitz[TR]	for business reasons many in jpop can sing in hangula nd in kpop they do japenese versions
[22:38]	schestowitz[TR]	doubles their audience
[22:38]	schestowitz[TR]	jim zemlin speaks japanese
[22:38]	schestowitz[TR]	microsoft linkedin still says so
[22:38]	schestowitz[TR]	I want someone from japan to ask him ina  conference
[22:39]	schestowitz[TR]	 a question in japenese
[22:39]	schestowitz[TR]	that should be fun
[22:39]	DaemonFC	Vorbis has two big design defects that I can think of. 1. floor0 2. Unique prediction model in each file.
[22:39]	schestowitz[TR]	the fraud will make up a story to avoid answering, he's a bullshit artist like the wife
[22:39]	DaemonFC	It would have been in more hardware without the second problem.
[22:40]	DaemonFC	The vector codebook in the file is only a couple KB packed, but when unpacked, it takes a lot more RAM to play the file than AAC, MP3, and WMA.
[22:40]	schestowitz[TR]	i found out she escaped her latest fraud
[22:40]	DaemonFC	So it was easier to just skip Vorbis.
[22:40]	schestowitz[TR]	because I entered linkedin to check is he STILL claims to speak japanese
[22:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	for business reasons many in jpop <- i only listen to kpop and then only because of psy
[22:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	and then, only because we played it at my wedding
[22:40]	schestowitz[TR]	kpop is rotting away
[22:41]	schestowitz[TR]	tghe bands don't laast long
[22:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	probably, i dont keep track of music
[22:41]	schestowitz[TR]	injuries, depressions, suicides
[22:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	its all manufactured, like boy bands
[22:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah
[22:41]	schestowitz[TR]	apink managed to reach 10
[22:41]	schestowitz[TR]	and is falling apart now
[22:41]	schestowitz[TR]	2 members left
[22:41]	DaemonFC	Suicide is pretty common in countries like the US. Only getting worse.
[22:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	kuhn would say kpop is "problemetic" lol
[22:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	which isnt untrue, hes just like that
[22:41]	schestowitz[TR]	nkuhnhehim
[22:41]	DaemonFC	If it gets worse, we'll have the Germans and the Japanese wondering what the fuck is going on in here.
[22:42]	schestowitz[TR]	his handle in irc
[22:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	hes such a cunt
[22:42]	schestowitz[TR]	i thought this guy with a beard with sheher
[22:42]	schestowitz[TR]	thanks, brad
[22:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	his name even sounds like cunt
[22:42]	schestowitz[TR]	for telling me you have a dong
[22:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	"are you from kent?"
[22:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me falls over
[22:43]	schestowitz[TR]	bkentThereHere
[22:43]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], The record labels only want crap.
[22:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	if theres a god, s/hes fucking hilarious
[22:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	bkent!
[22:43]	DaemonFC	They don't want to pay anything (streaming) but they have to have filler.
[22:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	haha
[22:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	the freedom servancy con
[22:43]	DaemonFC	So they just take whatever they can get for 0.00000000000000000000000000000001 cent per stream and this is what happens.
[22:43]	schestowitz[TR]	btw, bkuhn went one by one deleteing his "dents"
[22:44]	schestowitz[TR]	not too long befoere cherry-picking RMS
[22:44]	schestowitz[TR]	to "Cancel" him
[22:44]	schestowitz[TR]	he's trying to weeed out his trash
[22:44]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], The labels used to get by on SELLING music to KEEP.
[22:44]	schestowitz[TR]	before dumpster-diving through someone else's trash
[22:44]	schestowitz[TR]	"look, Im clean, I deleted everythig"
[22:44]	DaemonFC	And then maybe selling it again later when the physical media improved.
[22:44]	schestowitz[TR]	last year zemlin deleted ALL his tweets too
[22:44]	schestowitz[TR]	like 6000 of them
[22:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	lesser evilism at its finest
[22:44]	DaemonFC	That's over with.
[22:44]	schestowitz[TR]	they're so confidence in what they say
[22:44]	schestowitz[TR]	*confident
[22:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	theres always a master and an apprentice
[22:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	zemlin is the sith lord
[22:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	kuhn is the apprentice
[22:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me doesnt even fucking like star wars
[22:45]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: I don't pay these labels a penny anymore
[22:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	but your professor does
[22:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	the vegan one
[22:45]	schestowitz[TR]	tyhis way I need to work less
[22:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	lol
[22:45]	schestowitz[TR]	I have very old collections
[22:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=InFbsyOYjY4
[22:47]	TR Bot	 Eurythmics vs Bronski Beat - Invidious
[22:47]	schestowitz[TR]	yewtu.be blocks downloads these days
[22:47]	schestowitz[TR]	which to me means
[22:47]	schestowitz[TR]	1) it got legal threats or
[22:48]	schestowitz[TR]	2) bandwidth bill was high
[22:48]	schestowitz[TR]	other instances help
[22:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	 <highest_cubist_thrills> the vegan one <- andy farnell
[22:48]	schestowitz[TR]	but sadly they default to mp4
[22:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	 yewtu.be blocks downloads these days <- just downloaded
[22:48]	schestowitz[TR]	if you want both sound and pixels
[22:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	come at me, riaa!
[22:50]	TR News	DevLog: Trisquare for SEGA Master System gemini://ivanodintsoff.smol.pub/devlog-trisquare-mastersystem
[22:51]	DaemonFC	https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/xbg2ku/and_neofetch_open_in_a_terminal/
[22:51]	TR Bot	 And neofetch open in a terminal : linuxmasterrace
[22:51]	TR News	about the cli client gemini://cyi1341.smol.pub/random18 "since even though the cli client can still be improved, it's generally a better way to write entries imho, since you can store the texts locally while edit with your favourite editor"
[22:52]	TR News	PinePhone first impressions gemini://tilde.pink/~slondr/pinephone-first-impressions.gmi
[22:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	but sadly they default to mp4 <- lol
[22:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	youre talking to the king (theres zero competition) of automated forks
[22:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	(id rather someone else do it)
[22:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	its FUCKING TRIVIAL to make a fork of yt-dl or youtube-dl that defaults to a free format
[22:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	but the fsf 
[22:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	is too busy jamming its thumb up its arse
[22:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	to do FUCK ALL about it
[22:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	there is no fsf
[22:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	they dont want ideas. they dont want success
[22:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	they dont want integrity
[22:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	the only want bullshit and money!
[22:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wT9XlQi0yew
[22:55]	TR Bot	 Warren Zevon - Lawyers, Guns & Money [1989] - Invidious
[22:55]	TR News	 (NEW): Linus Torvalds: Linux 6.0-rc5 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Linus_Torvalds_Linux_6_0_rc5.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Linus_Torvalds_Linux_6_0_rc5.gmi 
[22:55]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Linus Torvalds: Linux 6.0-rc5
[22:56]	schestowitz[TR]	<highest_cubist_thrills> there is no fsf
[22:57]	schestowitz[TR]	this past week most blog posts were about irc meetings
[22:57]	schestowitz[TR]	irc is 24/7
[22:57]	schestowitz[TR]	but they do meetings in time slots for free software directory
[22:57]	schestowitz[TR]	two isuses
[22:57]	schestowitz[TR]	1) not many posts about advocacy
[22:57]	schestowitz[TR]	2) they outsourced irc to people I have not trusted in years
[22:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	but they do meetings in time slots for free software directory <- 90% of which is just promoting githuub
[22:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	i know, ive removed 90% of it
[22:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	its less than 90
[22:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	i forked the whole goddamned "free software" directory
[22:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	but it is fucking pointless
[22:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	but its just a motherfucking GITHUB directory now
[22:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	and they already have one
[22:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	called github
[22:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	its a directory of fucking github projects!
[22:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	how the mighty have fallen
[22:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.73 k/sec., IPFS upstream 89.68 average k/sec., average swarm size 159.85
[22:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	and like esr too proud to admit the fuckup of worlds 
[22:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	i am fsf, fuckup of worlds!
[22:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	not as bad (never as bad) as esr/osi
● Sep 11
[23:00]	DaemonFC	LOL
[23:00]	DaemonFC	Walmart sent me an email saying Paramount+ is now included.
[23:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	but always striving to be :/
[23:00]	DaemonFC	When I clicked it, it was the cheaper one with the commercials.
[23:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	oh if we could only suck as hard as osi!
[23:00]	DaemonFC	"Limited commercial interruption!"
[23:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	what a wonderful world it would be
[23:00]	TR News	Wayland Is Ending The Simple Linux Window Manager - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ASz_4vNokfM | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/ASz_4vNokfM
[23:00]	TR Bot	 Wayland Is Ending The Simple Linux Window Manager - Invidious
[23:00]	DaemonFC	Oh, like Hulu where it cuts to commercials more than cable did and says "limited commercial interruption"?
[23:00]	DaemonFC	Limited by however many they think people will tolerate.
[23:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	i literally have a fork
[23:01]	DaemonFC	Then you get to deal with those really fun HDCP errors when you try connecting to your TV.
[23:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	a fork of the free software directory
[23:01]	DaemonFC	Then they wonder why people pirate.
[23:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	minus the traitors and backstabbers
[23:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	minus github
[23:01]		*psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights
[23:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	where you can go to see whats left
[23:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	hahahahhahahaha
[23:01]		*psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights
[23:02]	TR News	 (NEW): Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update (36/2022): An Update on GNOME Shell on mobile and more http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Weekly_GNU_like_Mobile_Linux_Update_36_2022_An_Update_on_GNOME_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/11/Weekly_GNU_like_Mobile_Linux_Update_36_2022_An_Update_on_GNOME_.gmi 
[23:02]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update (36/2022): An Update on GNOME Shell on mobile and more
[23:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	i still use software, obviously
[23:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	but its hilarious
[23:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	the whole thing is a goddamned farce now
[23:03]	schestowitz[TR]	it gets   bigger over time
[23:03]	schestowitz[TR]	the protocol
[23:03]	schestowitz[TR]	the code
[23:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me kicks esr 
[23:03]	schestowitz[TR]	the number of transistors
[23:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me kicks him harder
[23:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me buys new boots and keeps kicking
[23:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	WHATS THE FREQUENCY, KENNETH!
[23:03]	schestowitz[TR]	secure BOOT?
[23:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	heh
[23:03]	schestowitz[TR]	you cannot buy old boots anymore
[23:04]	schestowitz[TR]	the FSF did a video on boots
[23:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	i can make boots
[23:04]	schestowitz[TR]	then it gave an award to a Microsofter
[23:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	i just need a sacred cow
[23:04]	schestowitz[TR]	same year it took money from BOTH Intel and Red Hat
[23:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	i wish phanes would hurry the fuck up
[23:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	hes got the right idea
[23:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	but like
[23:04]		*darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights
[23:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	lol
[23:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me rofl
[23:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	im still very flattered that brit thought i was phanes
[23:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	we have so little in common
[23:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	but i like the cut of his jib
[23:06]	XRevan86	https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1569070513909022720
[23:06]	TR Bot	Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Life comes at you fast: pundits on Russian TV realize that their military is failing and their country is in trouble. They are starting to play the blame game. Some of them finally understand that their genocidal denial of the Ukrainian identity isn't working in Russia's favor."|nitter.it
[23:06]	schestowitz[TR]	seems to go by many names
[23:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	only two that i know of
[23:06]	schestowitz[TR]	unless those are different people
[23:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	okay 3
[23:06]	schestowitz[TR]	loner is identifying the moment he opens his mouth
[23:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	chris punches
[23:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	phanes
[23:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	bagira
[23:06]	schestowitz[TR]	because of limited repertoire 
[23:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats it
[23:07]	XRevan86	This may be the best clip shared by Russian Media Monitor ever. https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/077/so_good.png
[23:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me only downloads because its xrevan
[23:08]	schestowitz[TR]	ok..
[23:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	what is this
[23:09]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: Pundits going insane on Russian Television.
[23:09]	schestowitz[TR]	XRevan86: he looks like rushdie
[23:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	"that wasnt a turn, more of a slight veer!" bullwinkle j moose
[23:09]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Oh, I can see that :)
[23:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	"you cant drive me crazy cause im close enough to walk!" not the bloodhound gang? some other rapper/group
[23:10]	schestowitz[TR]	Sergey looks like yeltsin
[23:10]	schestowitz[TR]	ot christopher walken
[23:11]	DaemonFC	https://www.npr.org/2022/09/11/1122280385/queen-elizabeth-ii-corgis-prince-andrew
[23:11]	TR Bot	 Queen Elizabeth II's corgis will go to Prince Andrew and his ex-wife : NPR
[23:11]	DaemonFC	Those poor dogs.
[23:11]	DaemonFC	I can only imagine what he'll do to them.
[23:11]	schestowitz[TR]	he wears a "z" button
[23:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	12 'Embarrassing' Symptoms of POTS We Don't Talk About - The Mighty
[23:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	plain old telephone system?
[23:11]	XRevan86	schestowitz: That's Mironov, the "leader" of the Just Russia party.
[23:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	annie? from ghostbusters? 
[23:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	<3
[23:12]	XRevan86	Fun fact: originally the party was founded from Kremlin as a spoiler for CPRF.
[23:12]	XRevan86	A lot of parties got developed like that, but this is the eldest one like that.
[23:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=d33DM4ZEBCU
[23:12]	TR Bot	 "(Rockin') All Nite Long" A Bad Lip Reading of Taylor Swift, featuring Wiz Khalifa (Mirror) - Invidious
[23:13]	XRevan86	They really lost their cool, things are being said that would've been hard unacceptable just a month ago.
[23:14]	schestowitz[TR]	"liberated territories"
[23:14]	schestowitz[TR]	hhaha
[23:14]	schestowitz[TR]	occupied is liberated
[23:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	im an alchemist-- the beat is my base metal
[23:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	roygbiv have a seat!
[23:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	soooooooooooo goooooooooooood
[23:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	/so_good.png
[23:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	no party people gonna be standin!
[23:16]	XRevan86	He was about to say "Great Patriotic Special Mili"! 
[23:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	im a waitress!
[23:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	imma eat celery
[23:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	occupied is liberated <- +1
[23:18]	XRevan86	They're ripping my vocabulary off.
[23:18]	XRevan86	I was joking about the Great Patriotic Special Military Operation before it was cool.
[23:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	things are being said that would've been hard unacceptable just a month ago <- https://www.fsf.org/blog/we_sold_out_omg_sorry.html
[23:18]	TR Bot	( status 404 @ https://www.fsf.org/blog/we_sold_out_omg_sorry.html )
[23:18]	XRevan86	(because Hitler didn't declare war)
[23:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	Special Military Operation <- https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9GWLoAUijIA
[23:19]	TR Bot	 Andy and Lou "Smurf" Part 1 | Little Britain Season 1 Episode 2 - Invidious
[23:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-09-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[23:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	(because Hitler didn't declare war) <- he didnt have to
[23:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	just go to fuckin poland, its no big deal
[23:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	just go to russia
[23:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	"maybe we should try being nice..."
[23:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	"but theyre killing us"
[23:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	"yeah but so? theyre only human, innit?"
[23:20]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: One of the justifications used when prosecuting people who say Russia is waging a war is that Russia never declared war.
[23:21]	XRevan86	 not war
[23:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	nice!
[23:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	so its definitely NOT a war unless you ADMIT it
[23:21]	XRevan86	Yes
[23:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	i can see how you can sue people for calling rape that way
[23:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	"but i didnt say it was rape!"
[23:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	"oh, thats a fair point..."
[23:21]	XRevan86	I retroactively applied this logic to WW2, and it's not a war either, it's a SMO.
[23:21]	DaemonFC	Today, Waukegan refused to have a 9/11 memorial.
[23:21]	DaemonFC	Their reason? "It happened 21 years ago.".
[23:22]	DaemonFC	Most of the city's population are illegal immigrants.
[23:22]	XRevan86	The guy from the clip called the current SMO a "Great Patriotic Specia" but close enough :)
[23:22]	schestowitz[TR]	XRevan86: lol, in the second video
[23:22]	DaemonFC	They drive around in pickup trucks with these stupid big Mexican flags on them.
[23:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	"now you stole hundreds of dollars from the kwik-e-mart after you pointed a gun at them"
[23:23]	DaemonFC	Like if it's so great, why are you here?
[23:23]	schestowitz[TR]	it ends ith allustion to shooting those who are scared
[23:23]	XRevan86	Imagine being conditioned so much that even in "Great Patriotic War" the word war is regexed out into SMO.
[23:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	"but i didnt declare a robbery!"
[23:23]	schestowitz[TR]	that's like sdayimg, those who lose will to fight shoul;d be excuted. nice.
[23:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	"oh... well then! case dismissed!"
[23:23]	schestowitz[TR]	citing stalin
[23:23]	DaemonFC	Texas is doing something rational.
[23:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	 citing stalin <- hes priceless
[23:23]	schestowitz[TR]	they start shooting their ownm people,  they lose
[23:23]	schestowitz[TR]	they do ukraine's work
[23:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	no, its win-win-win
[23:24]	DaemonFC	The Federal government prohibits them from deporting illegal immigrants, so why not put thousands of them on buses headed to "sanctuary cities"?
[23:24]	schestowitz[TR]	shooting their own troops (if they do)
[23:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	one of the rules of imperialism is youre not allowed to lose
[23:24]	schestowitz[TR]	ja[anese killed themselves
[23:24]	schestowitz[TR]	as they were losing
[23:24]	DaemonFC	WHen they get there, they'll overwhelm our social services to the point where it causes resentment from the liberals who felt those policies were a great idea when it cost them almost nothing.
[23:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	they had it coming
[23:24]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: The pro of this rule is "ha-ha, I can't lose if I don't exist anymore!"
[23:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me sees the gopher
[23:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	O_O
[23:25]	XRevan86	highest_cubist_thrills: Holy crap, have ye achieved nirvana already?
[23:25]	DaemonFC	When Chicago got them, it said they would welcome them.
[23:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	yes, and foo fighters!
[23:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	and even anvil
[23:25]	DaemonFC	Then Chicago put the illegal immigrants on another bus and pointed the buses to a Republican suburb.
[23:25]	schestowitz[TR]	https://nitter.it/natsechobbyist/status/1569070820013797376#m
[23:25]	TR Bot	Vindman (@natsechobbyist): "Their expressions are forlorn. You can smell the desperation."|nitter.it
[23:25]	DaemonFC	Because Chicago doesn't want them. Not really.
[23:26]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Yes, that's my favourite aspect.
[23:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	dave grohl (of nirvana and foo fighters) was guiness record (hmm) drunk one time
[23:26]	DaemonFC	So now we're playing Musical Illegals.
[23:26]	DaemonFC	Where everyone who gets them puts them on another bus.
[23:26]	schestowitz[TR]	https://nitter.it/nicholas51/status/1569072033819987968#m
[23:26]	TR Bot	Kosanovi Nikica (@nicholas51): "Lock him up!"|nitter.it
[23:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	and seemed to imply that anvil was the last true rock band
[23:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	which is fair enough, not much competition
[23:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	but sort of priceless i suppose
[23:26]	DaemonFC	I have a better idea.
[23:27]	DaemonFC	Put them on a bus and drop them off at the Canadian border.
[23:27]	DaemonFC	See what Trudeau does with all of them.
[23:27]	DaemonFC	:)
[23:27]	schestowitz[TR]	to be fair, russia is not losing to ukraine
[23:27]	schestowitz[TR]	ukraine is a proxy war
[23:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	i really enjoyed the fuck out of dmb
[23:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	when you find a movie you like more, please share
[23:27]	schestowitz[TR]	bbbbut the people who failed to predict this should be excuted
[23:27]	schestowitz[TR]	for all the lives they cost
[23:27]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe they got appetite from the crimea occupation
[23:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	bbbbut the people who failed to predict this should be excuted <- with wet nood;es
[23:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	noodles
[23:28]	XRevan86	It's not a proxy war even if it's not a clean one-on-one war, with allied help.
[23:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	to do more (or less) would be a crime(a)
[23:28]	schestowitz[TR]	the supplies
[23:28]	schestowitz[TR]	ukraine is just the battle zone
[23:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	 It's not a proxy war even if it's not a clean one-on-one war, with allied help. <- 
[23:28]	DaemonFC	Everyone who gets the illegals puts them on another bus and tells them they'll like the next place a lot better, trust us.
[23:28]	schestowitz[TR]	and ukrainians the cannon fodder
[23:28]	DaemonFC	This is great, isn't it?
[23:29]	schestowitz[TR]	or people who handle the equipment
[23:29]	XRevan86	> A proxy war is an armed conflict between two states or non-state actors, one or both of which act at the instigation or on behalf of other parties that are not directly involved in the hostilities.
[23:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	"percent sign, ampersand, dollar sign!" "and colon semicolon too!"
[23:29]	schestowitz[TR]	russia will end up a lot poorer 
[23:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	"what the **** are you doing?"
[23:29]	XRevan86	The instigator is actively involved in the war.
[23:29]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe even get rid of puin 
[23:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	"swearing in longhand, asterisk mouth!"
[23:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	<schestowitz[TR]> maybe even get rid of puin <- but what will we do for fun 
[23:29]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Putin likes to "grab tables" he's sitting at.
[23:29]	DaemonFC	Apparently....
[23:30]	schestowitz[TR]	don't worry, microsoft pelosi already stirs shit up in twiwan
[23:30]	schestowitz[TR]	like the phrma companies with "boosters"
[23:30]	schestowitz[TR]	US looks for the next client
[23:30]	DaemonFC	It's important that Taiwan maintains its independence.
[23:31]	XRevan86	> A proxy war or proxy warfare is a war that results when opposing powers use third parties as substitutes for fighting each other directly.
[23:31]	DaemonFC	Too many have already fallen to the PRC and have to live in a country with no freedom and no human rights.
[23:31]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Got two definitions, this war applies to neither.
[23:31]	XRevan86	Not a proxy war.
[23:31]	DaemonFC	We should protect Taiwan from them. At least Taiwan is dug in and better defended.
[23:32]	schestowitz[TR]	I checked wordnet just now
[23:32]	schestowitz[TR]	in xfce
[23:32]	schestowitz[TR]	the definition holds
[23:32]	DaemonFC	Russia hasn't made any recent incursions into the Alaska Air Defense Identification Zone for some reason.
[23:32]	DaemonFC	It's like they're busy with something.
[23:32]	schestowitz[TR]	US and NATO did this in georgia also
[23:33]	schestowitz[TR]	and now they just funnel weapons
[23:33]	schestowitz[TR]	without direct participation
[23:33]	DaemonFC	The UK is part of NATO.
[23:33]	DaemonFC	Just throwing that out there.
[23:33]	schestowitz[TR]	Uk sends weapons too
[23:33]	schestowitz[TR]	and training
[23:33]	DaemonFC	The UK is giving Ukraine advanced weapons.
[23:33]	DaemonFC	It's like the Iraq War.
[23:33]	schestowitz[TR]	but what afterwards? taking on russia itself? china?
[23:33]	schestowitz[TR]	it's just killing our economy
[23:34]	DaemonFC	The UK does whatever the US is doing.
[23:34]	schestowitz[TR]	and dingdong, the queen is dead
[23:34]	schestowitz[TR]	relic from BE
[23:34]	DaemonFC	Usually to the same effect.
[23:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	<schestowitz[TR]> in xfce <- you mean xfce-gtk
[23:34]	schestowitz[TR]	uk needs to create a new generastion of something
[23:34]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Ukraine would've defended itself regardless, as it did initially, so it's not instigated nor on behalf.
[23:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	<schestowitz[TR]> and dingdong, the queen is dead <- LENNART IS DEAD?!
[23:34]	schestowitz[TR]	BE is like an expiring patent pool
[23:35]	DaemonFC	The UK really couldn't have a direct war with most countries.
[23:35]	schestowitz[TR]	"commonwealth" =-= generics
[23:35]	techuser	Lennart? It is Elizabeth II
[23:35]	DaemonFC	The Falklands War was the UK's Deep State Freak-Out.
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[23:35]	DaemonFC	We had ours the other day with Biden's "speech from Hell".
[23:35]	XRevan86	schestowitz: "but what afterwards?" <- Inability of Russia to advance into Ukrainian territory.
[23:35]	XRevan86	That's the afterwards.
[23:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=kPIdRJlzERo
[23:35]	DaemonFC	The Democrats know they'll lose elections.
[23:35]	TR Bot	 Ding Dong the Witch is Dead - Invidious
[23:36]	DaemonFC	So what do they do? Freak out about people voting.
[23:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	 <techuser> Lennart? It is Elizabeth II <- she wasnt the worst
[23:36]	DaemonFC	Oh my.
[23:36]	TR News	"How does SPVM resolve the problems of Perl numeric operations?" http://blogs.perl.org/users/yuki_kimoto/2022/09/how-does-spvm-resolve-perl-numeric-operation-problems.html
[23:36]	TR Bot	does SPVM resolve the problems of Perl numeric operations? | Yuki Kimoto Perl Blog - Perl Club [blogs.perl.org]
[23:36]	schestowitz[TR]	it's still 9/11 here btw
[23:36]	schestowitz[TR]	21 years later nobody gives a crap
[23:37]	schestowitz[TR]	it's not the 20-yar anniversary
[23:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Mh1hKt5kQ_4
[23:37]	TR Bot	 Her Majesty (Remastered 2009) - Invidious
[23:37]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Too much to worry about in the present anyway.
[23:37]	schestowitz[TR]	wine, 
[23:38]	schestowitz[TR]	send her to wonderland
[23:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	<schestowitz[TR]> uk needs to create a new generastion of something <- ...
[23:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	icewm?
[23:38]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe her son can bring some kids along
[23:38]	schestowitz[TR]	for the wine
[23:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	(its going to suck)
[23:38]	schestowitz[TR]	neverland
[23:38]	schestowitz[TR]	not nwonderland
[23:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	 maybe her son can bring some kids along <- YES, thats what we need!
[23:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	more charleses!
[23:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me would rather clone phillip
[23:39]	DaemonFC	If you've had quite enough of the Democrats ruining the economy, causing hyperinflation, etc....
[23:39]	DaemonFC	You're basically a terrorist!
[23:39]	DaemonFC	For voting....
[23:39]	DaemonFC	In an election.
[23:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	"be careful or youll look all slitty-eyed!"
[23:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	"what was it i said"
[23:39]	DaemonFC	In a country that's a democracy, you know. :P
[23:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	"oh, the whole thing" eddie izzard
[23:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me liked phillip, granted he should have never said (literally) anything
[23:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me knows damned well it doesnt work that way
[23:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	it doesnt work this way, either
[23:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	but its very silly
[23:40]	schestowitz[TR]	Soon after his loss, Carlsen posted a cryptic tweet featuring a speech by football manager Jose Mourinho. "I prefer not to speak, Mourinho said in the 2020 video. If I speak I am in big troubleand I don't want to be in big trouble."
[23:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	haha
[23:41]	XRevan86	schestowitz: "it's just killing our economy" <- Also look at it this way: one ambitious motherbucker is causing instability, and that in itself hinders economic growth as it creates a FUD cloud over Europe which affects long-term investment.
[23:41]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], The Lake County government quietly shut down the "AllVax" portal.
[23:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	a FUD cloud over Europe <- https://fsfe.prg
[23:41]	TR Bot	not resolve host: fsfe.prg; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://fsfe.prg )
[23:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	org
[23:41]	schestowitz[TR]	fsfe.pig
[23:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	^ this
[23:42]	schestowitz[TR]	OIN OIN
[23:42]	schestowitz[TR]	there are overlaps btw
[23:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	 :8)
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR]	Mirko Boehm
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR]	https://blogs.fsfe.org/fellowship-interviews/?p=477
[23:43]	TR Bot	 Fellowship interview with Mirko Boehm | FSFE interviews its Fellows
[23:43]	DaemonFC	https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view%3Fhttps%253A//wgntv.com/news/chicagocrime/13-year-old-boy-shot-while-breaking-into-a-car/
[23:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me nick thighes_cubist_thrills
[23:43]	TR Bot	 Gemini Portal
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR]	https://fsfe.org/news/2016/news-20160502-01.en.html
[23:43]	TR Bot	 And the winner of the election for FSFE's Fellowship GA seat is ... - FSFE
[23:43]	schestowitz[TR]	https://lwn.net/Articles/469824/
[23:43]	TR Bot	Fellowship interview with Mirko Boehm [LWN.net]
[23:43]	DaemonFC	Illinois is probably the only place in America where the guy shooting a car thief gets taken in for questioning.
[23:44]	schestowitz[TR]	"Openforum Academy fellow."
[23:44]	schestowitz[TR]	ICBM
[23:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=nYh-n7EOtMA
[23:44]	schestowitz[TR]	https://osseu19.sched.com/speaker/mirko7
[23:44]	TR Bot	 Sia - Cheap Thrills (Lyric Video) ft. Sean Paul - Invidious
[23:44]	TR Bot	 Mirko Boehm - Open Source Summit + ELC Europe 2019
[23:44]		*highest_cubist_thrills is now known as thighes_cubist_thrills
[23:46]	thighes_cubist_thrills	/me likes both sia and sean paul, but the combination is utter shite
[23:47]	thighes_cubist_thrills	 hilariously
[23:47]	thighes_cubist_thrills	/me liked sean paul first
[23:47]		*thighes_cubist_thrills has quit (connection closed)
[23:48]	DaemonFC	https://scontent-ams4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/306599635_701965271288419_1744379754706649207_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=ROue4iI_NhsAX_lIJDX&_nc_ht=scontent-ams4-1.xx&oh=00_AT_waboilU-kceIBY_tpwa1MP8PPQ__RWokycbwlkmHYtg&oe=6323492C
[23:48]	DaemonFC	Meanwhile, in Chicago....
[23:48]	DaemonFC	Who drives into flood waters?
[23:48]	DaemonFC	Honestly.
[23:49]	schestowitz[TR]	sean paul  takes effort to understand
[23:49]	DaemonFC	https://scontent-ams4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/306516947_701961044622175_162051006465751050_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=alEeKYhU6_IAX96KlZ8&_nc_ht=scontent-ams4-1.xx&oh=00_AT9ctC4FyU2aIm7xdMmV5k1-d4UUgKfuxs1tElsFZkUtKw&oe=6323076D
[23:49]	schestowitz[TR]	incomprehensible sometimes
[23:49]	DaemonFC	Black lady sitting in her SUV.
[23:49]	DaemonFC	Probably on the phone with her boyfriend trying to explain what she did to his car.
[23:49]	XRevan86	DaemonFC: Must be hermetic automobiles, so cool.
[23:49]	XRevan86	Otherwise this is insanity.
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[23:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	wth was that
[23:51]	DaemonFC	XRevan86, Notice how she's still wearing her seatbelt even though her car is in flood water.
[23:51]	DaemonFC	Must be one of those college graduates that needed Biden's loan forgiveness.
[23:52]	TR News	Setting up your own Shiny and RStudio Server on a Raspberry Pi https://andresrcs.rbind.io/2022/09/05/shiny_rstudio_server/
[23:52]	TR Bot	 Andres' Blog
[23:53]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: you got 100,000 dollars in debt written off
[23:53]	schestowitz[TR]	biden gives likem a tenth of that
[23:53]	schestowitz[TR]	IF
[23:53]	schestowitz[TR]	not even confirmed yet
[23:53]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC is a perfect mental case when it comes to double standasrds
[23:54]	schestowitz[TR]	criminal crecod ? check.
[23:54]	schestowitz[TR]	drowned in loans? did not pay back? check.
[23:54]	schestowitz[TR]	poor? check.
[23:54]	schestowitz[TR]	but
[23:54]	schestowitz[TR]	1)
[23:54]	schestowitz[TR]	shames poor p[eo
[23:54]	schestowitz[TR]	mocks people for being on welfare
[23:54]	schestowitz[TR]	and calling people criminals
[23:54]	schestowitz[TR]	esp. if they are black
[23:55]	schestowitz[TR]	classic american sterotype
[23:55]	schestowitz[TR]	calling mexicans lazy
[23:55]	schestowitz[TR]	while they pick the fruit for the couch potatoes
[23:56]	schestowitz[TR]	who weight 500 pounds and wheel around in a walmart, looking for cheap calories
[23:56]	schestowitz[TR]	*weigh
[23:57]	TR News	"Most software engineers dont think about systems this way. Its mostly used by computer scientists who are interested in formal methods, finding ways to automatically verify properties on abstract representations of the system" https://www.hillelwayne.com/post/safety-and-liveness/
[23:57]	TR Bot	 Safety and Liveness Properties Hillel Wayne
[23:57]	TR News	"Any Torontonian who has commuted regularly on the TTC has probably experienced their fair share of delays on the subway. Having experienced a few recently I was inspired to visualize the average delay times across all stops on the subway." https://bensstats.wordpress.com/2022/09/05/robservations-38-visualizing-average-delay-times-on-ttc-subway-stations/
[23:57]	TR Bot	 RObservations #38: Visualizing Average Delay Times On TTC Subway Stations | bensstats
[23:58]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz[TR]> criminal crecod ? check.
[23:58]	TR News	"So the question became: can I offload the work of generating an EPUB to each individual client, i.e. can I generate an EPUB in the browser?" Browsers are bloated chaos these days. Avoid. https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/generating-epub-file-in-browser/
[23:58]	TR Bot	 Generating an EPUB File in the Browser - Jim Nielsens Blog
[23:58]	DaemonFC	Being worked on.
[23:58]	schestowitz[TR]	haha
[23:58]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz[TR]> drowned in loans? did not pay back? check.
[23:58]	schestowitz[TR]	that makes it OK
[23:59]	DaemonFC	That's the fault of the government and was eaten by the banks mostly.
[23:59]	schestowitz[TR]	"the government!!!'
[23:59]	DaemonFC	Yes, the police are the government.
[23:59]	schestowitz[TR]	so when you're white irish it's the gov's fault
[23:59]	schestowitz[TR]	that you bought too much with money you had not earned
[23:59]	DaemonFC	I didn't go down and borrow $60,000 to study Gender Confusion.
[23:59]	schestowitz[TR]	but when it happens to a black person you mock them