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| P_B | scholarship for what? | Oct 11 01:44 |
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| scientes | graduate school in CS | Oct 11 01:49 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: https://socially.whimsic.al/objects/5bfaf556-79d9-4036-b5eb-63ea705fd2f6 this makes me nostalgic %). | Oct 11 01:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-socially.whimsic.al | Pleroma | Oct 11 01:50 | |
| kaniini | XRevan86: it is so bad | Oct 11 01:51 |
| XRevan86 | ejabberd is not what it used to be. Some old behaviour made an impact. | Oct 11 01:51 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: Now I know why the fork – to avoid those darn changes done in ejabberd (: | Oct 11 01:53 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: Like the one from here: https://blog.process-one.net/ejabberd-17-11 | Oct 11 02:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.process-one.net | ejabberd 17.11 – Happy Birthday ejabberd ! | ProcessOne Blog | Oct 11 02:02 | |
| XRevan86 | https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/blob/13.09/ejabberd.yml.example 6 years ago | Oct 11 02:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ejabberd/ejabberd.yml.example at 13.09 · processone/ejabberd · GitHub | Oct 11 02:05 | |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: You'll also notice that ejabberd used to have very bad error logging. | Oct 11 02:06 |
| kaniini | this stuff gives me a headache (: | Oct 11 02:06 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: Do I understand it right that Pleroma has some cooperation with Erlang Solutions going? | Oct 11 02:07 |
| kaniini | yes | Oct 11 02:07 |
| kaniini | Mongoose is an optional platform component | Oct 11 02:07 |
| kaniini | if you enable it, then Pleroma FE will act as an XMPP client as well | Oct 11 02:08 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: Why the ignore of the parent project? Just because not ES? | Oct 11 02:08 |
| kaniini | i don't know, i didn't do it | Oct 11 02:08 |
| XRevan86 | It's really odd, especially to me since I use ejabberd for years and see how far it's come. And then I look at Mongoose… | Oct 11 02:09 |
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| kaniini | i'm sure you could technically drop ejabberd in place of mongoose and have things work | Oct 11 02:11 |
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| P_B | scientes, applying for a graduate school scholarship if you don't have the requisite undergrad degree would be a terrible idea. They'll want to see the transcript, and forever after you'd be risking losing not just the scholarship but your place in the higher degree too, even if you managed to con your whole way through and were awarded it. | Oct 11 02:12 |
| XRevan86 | kaniini: I suspect that too. | Oct 11 02:12 |
| scientes | I already asked for a exception | Oct 11 02:12 |
| XRevan86 | It's like supporting ownCloud and ignoring Nextcloud (the parent/fork reversal, because Nextcloud is the more alive one) | Oct 11 02:13 |
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| scientes | P_B, it worked for that Russian polymath :) | Oct 11 02:14 |
| scientes | also, I wouldn't really care about the degree | Oct 11 02:14 |
| scientes | its about the education | Oct 11 02:14 |
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| samiamsam | hah losing the degree | Oct 11 03:29 |
| schestowitz | ? | Oct 11 03:29 |
| samiamsam | when is a lost degree ever less valuable | Oct 11 03:29 |
| samiamsam | maybe if it is a medical degree | Oct 11 03:30 |
| samiamsam | otherwise you can still put your graduation date on a resume | Oct 11 03:30 |
| schestowitz | Oh, now I see the context | Oct 11 03:30 |
| samiamsam | sorry, was just looking back at the scroll | Oct 11 03:31 |
| samiamsam | scientes: did you ever try taking classes without even enrolling? | Oct 11 03:32 |
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| scientes | samiamsam, that's not why I would go---its the social situation it puts one in | Oct 11 04:12 |
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| scientes | I can get the education fine on my own | Oct 11 04:12 |
| scientes | but also it would allow more long-term education projects | Oct 11 04:12 |
| scientes | and group stuff | Oct 11 04:12 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | "During the announcement of macOS Catalina, Craig Federighi addressed the evolution of iTunes, and joked about the potential to include Email, Calendar, and Safari in iTunes before announcing iTunes's separation into independent apps. " | Oct 11 05:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :) | Oct 11 05:08 |
| schestowitz | itune as a "Way of life" | Oct 11 05:23 |
| schestowitz | iLife | Oct 11 05:23 |
| schestowitz | is there a poduct called that yet? | Oct 11 05:23 |
| schestowitz | iTune, iTunes,iToons | Oct 11 05:23 |
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| samiamsam | ishit is frustratingly inferior to develop on compared to debian | Oct 11 05:58 |
| samiamsam | i mean mac os x actually. ios or whatever is actually impossible | Oct 11 05:58 |
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| samiamsam | which is much more objectionable | Oct 11 05:59 |
| samiamsam | i played with someone's macbook pro for a bit, installing a free software environment with macports | Oct 11 06:00 |
| samiamsam | it's doable to develop like that but everything is harder | Oct 11 06:02 |
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| samiamsam | https://neritam.wordpress.com/2019/10/08/open-source-is-just-oem-software/ | Oct 11 06:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | Open source is just OEM software – neritam | Oct 11 06:45 | |
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| MinceR | https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests-apple/apple-removes-police-tracking-app-used-in-hong-kong-protests-from-its-app-store-idUSKBN1WP09U?il=0 | Oct 11 07:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple pulls app used to track Hong Kong police, Cook defends move - Reuters | Oct 11 07:01 | |
| schestowitz | thanks | Oct 11 07:07 |
| schestowitz | typical crapple | Oct 11 07:07 |
| schestowitz | social control | Oct 11 07:07 |
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| MinceR | http://existentialcomics.com/comic/231 | Oct 11 07:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | Buddha and Hume - Existential Comics | Oct 11 07:27 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1907187 | Oct 11 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Oct 11 08:15 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/1907182 | Oct 11 08:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Oct 11 08:23 | |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?t=1997 the hdcp one you have not checked history. We have those making socs doing custom Linux kernels with hdcp anyhow yes as with the 2013 example at times no off switch without custom remaking kernel.. | Oct 11 10:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forum.odroid.com | disable HDCP on HDMI - ODROID | Oct 11 10:00 | |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: so this is kind of rock and hard place. By taking hdcp mainline proper standard controls can be put on it and possible emulators and so on made. Leaving it not mainline will will remain in the location of different parties patch the Linux kernel in unique ways bring more security flaws and lack of off switches. | Oct 11 10:04 |
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| jagadees | https://neritam.wordpress.com/2019/10/11/no-justification-for-stallmans-resignation/ | Oct 11 10:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | No justification for Stallman’s resignation – neritam | Oct 11 10:34 | |
| schestowitz | ok.. | Oct 11 10:34 |
| oiaohm | jagadees: remember people have been fired from management positions due to personal journal entries. | Oct 11 10:40 |
| oiaohm | jagadees: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/barnes-noble-says-former-ceo-was-fired-for-sexual-harassment-2018-10-30 CEO get fired for way less than RMS did. | Oct 11 10:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Barnes & Noble says former CEO was fired for sexual harassment - MarketWatch | Oct 11 10:40 | |
| MrGreenFriend | oiaohm, RMS has said much worse things before, and didnt get fired | Oct 11 10:41 |
| jagadees | former CEO twice “inappropriately touched a female subordinate and, during the second incident, he made an advance and used sexual language.” | Oct 11 10:43 |
| oiaohm | MrGreenFriend: True that was before the prosecutors decided to go after the catholic church and those who covered up Harvey Weinstein. | Oct 11 10:44 |
| oiaohm | jagadees: that is one of many if you look around of people who have been fired since companies have seen they need to take the workplace health and safety laws serousally. | Oct 11 10:44 |
| oiaohm | RMS is basically no a one off case. Items that use to be swept under carpet for those in management is now fired or forced resigned. | Oct 11 10:45 |
| oiaohm | That is the way the law has always in fact been. Just the laws on the books were basically ignored. | Oct 11 10:45 |
| jagadees | pls dont talk about law. | Oct 11 10:46 |
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| jagadees | its the kavanaugh who defends it right/ | Oct 11 10:47 |
| jagadees | ? | Oct 11 10:47 |
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| oiaohm | jagadees: this stuff never gets to kavanaugh level of legal system. Those who dispute their dismissal are losing well before that. The bad text is turning out to be enough without any of the extra claims. | Oct 11 10:49 |
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| jagadees | it never get into legal level. | Oct 11 10:52 |
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| jagadees | which amendment is there to protect free speech? | Oct 11 10:52 |
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| oiaohm | jagadees: https://www.inc.com/john-boitnott/3-reasons-to-fire-an-employee-immediately.html this stuff is not new. 2014 Inappropriate Behavior in in the labour laws of the USA allowing instant dismissal. | Oct 11 10:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3 Reasons to Fire an Employee Immediately | Inc.com | Oct 11 10:53 | |
| jagadees | that is above that 1970 workplace law right? | Oct 11 10:53 |
| oiaohm | jagadees: no the Constitution of the USA is young law than the workplace law. So workplace law overrides it completely. | Oct 11 10:54 |
| oiaohm | That right in workplace you have no right to free speech and that is the way its always been. | Oct 11 10:54 |
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| jagadees | who is the victim here? | Oct 11 10:55 |
| jagadees | who files case against stallman? | Oct 11 10:55 |
| oiaohm | Workplace law does not require victim only the possibility future harm to the organization. | Oct 11 10:55 |
| jagadees | who initiates? | Oct 11 10:55 |
| jagadees | govt? | Oct 11 10:56 |
| oiaohm | If you don't deal with it yourself a police prosecutor can as grounds to go though the organisation for aiding and abetting the person still gets fired. | Oct 11 10:57 |
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| jagadees | oh US is a terrorist country | Oct 11 10:57 |
| oiaohm | Yes while they are searching for aiding and abetting all workplace activites can be suspended. | Oct 11 10:57 |
| jagadees | 1000 black people per year are killed by police | Oct 11 10:58 |
| jagadees | like this | Oct 11 10:58 |
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| oiaohm | People in the USA really don't have as much freedom as they think they do. | Oct 11 10:58 |
| jagadees | so i think we have to fix USA | Oct 11 10:58 |
| oiaohm | Problem is that law is based off older UK law that has been replicated into many countries. | Oct 11 10:59 |
| oiaohm | Its more like we need to fix the like 75% of the worlds countries at least. | Oct 11 11:00 |
| jagadees | so its the major issue rather than this private email comment. | Oct 11 11:01 |
| oiaohm | There is no requirement to fair hearing to rule if the evidence is valid or not under workplace law either. | Oct 11 11:01 |
| oiaohm | Its not a single person problem either. | Oct 11 11:02 |
| oiaohm | This is a system wide problem. | Oct 11 11:02 |
| jagadees | FSF and those SJW can do something for it. | Oct 11 11:02 |
| jagadees | SJD | Oct 11 11:02 |
| oiaohm | labour laws/workplace laws most people don't have a clue how lax requirement on evidence is to fire someone or force them to resign in fact is. | Oct 11 11:04 |
| jagadees | any law they are all skewed towards the ruling class. | Oct 11 11:06 |
| oiaohm | labour laws/workplace laws most people don't have a clue how lax requirement on evidence is to fire someone or force them to resign in fact is. | Oct 11 11:06 |
| oiaohm | Opps | Oct 11 11:06 |
| oiaohm | This law is oddly skewed as its not to the ruling class. Its skewed to the interest of the organistation/company entity. | Oct 11 11:07 |
| oiaohm | Labour laws/workplace laws are some of the few laws that you can totally screw someone in the ruling class absolutely over with. | Oct 11 11:07 |
| jagadees | last day somebody shared case about the e waste recycler Eric Lundgren | Oct 11 11:08 |
| jagadees | the judge said Microsoft want that ruling. | Oct 11 11:09 |
| jagadees | no discussion. | Oct 11 11:09 |
| oiaohm | How can you rule anything if you are black balled from the labour laws/workplace laws forbiding you from managing anything because you are classed as bad charter. | Oct 11 11:09 |
| jagadees | so pls dont talk about law. | Oct 11 11:09 |
| jagadees | this movement is about change law | Oct 11 11:09 |
| oiaohm | Eric Lundgren is in copyright and trademark law area. That another area that can sux badly. | Oct 11 11:10 |
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| oiaohm | Eric was in 100 percent in trouble when you look at the copied discs the labels on them were in fact identical to the dell provided one. Providing replacement media does not mean it has to look 100 percent like the real stuff. | Oct 11 11:11 |
| oiaohm | That was the trademark part of is case. | Oct 11 11:12 |
| oiaohm | jagadees: the law suxs at times. Sometimes people should know better. | Oct 11 11:13 |
| jagadees | i can understand it. | Oct 11 11:13 |
| jagadees | in rms case who filed case against him | Oct 11 11:14 |
| MinceR | >workplace law overrides the Constitution completely | Oct 11 11:14 |
| MinceR | what | Oct 11 11:14 |
| jagadees | all we know is he resigned. | Oct 11 11:15 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: the base to workplace law was in effect when the Constitution was written. It should not be what. | Oct 11 11:15 |
| jagadees | we have the right to know what happened | Oct 11 11:16 |
| jagadees | some trasnparency | Oct 11 11:16 |
| MinceR | so the USA does not only not have rule of law, it doesn't even have constitutionality | Oct 11 11:16 |
| MinceR | nice. | Oct 11 11:16 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: US Constitution in fact has no labour rights in it at all when it was first written because those signing wanted to keep the right to whip slaves for what ever. Until they added " Thirteenth, Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments" that are technically badly written and not functional. | Oct 11 11:20 |
| MinceR | great job | Oct 11 11:20 |
| oiaohm | So workplace the US Constitution is absolutely worthless. You need UK based Civil laws. | Oct 11 11:20 |
| oiaohm | Those UK based Civil laws sux badly. | Oct 11 11:21 |
| oiaohm | Its a surprise to a lot of people that the USA right to free speech in the Constitution does not apply to when you are at work in the USA at all. | Oct 11 11:23 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll get tired of this and the anti-science stance of the government and leave | Oct 11 11:24 |
| MinceR | and then Agent Orange and his cronies will find out how far their economy gets when their entire workforce was indoctrinated into christian fundamentalism and not educated | Oct 11 11:24 |
| oiaohm | But remember the USA labour law problem is basically because is almost a 1 to 1 copy of the UK one. | Oct 11 11:25 |
| MinceR | though i guess dump will be dead by then, he's old | Oct 11 11:25 |
| oiaohm | and many other countries have done this 1 to 1 copy as well. | Oct 11 11:25 |
| MinceR | their constitutions are different though | Oct 11 11:25 |
| oiaohm | Most countries constitutions have place in a case over labour/workplace laws. | Oct 11 11:26 |
| oiaohm | as in do nothing. | Oct 11 11:26 |
| oiaohm | You come in on a labour/workplace law case argue the constitution be done for wasting the courts time and case thrown out in most countries with the UK based labour/workplace laws. | Oct 11 11:27 |
| jagadees | The law part is ok. Its bad. But lot of SJWs are working on it let them do that work. | Oct 11 11:28 |
| jagadees | Our issue is how to make people to tolerate ideas, and free speech. | Oct 11 11:28 |
| jagadees | Usually fascists are the ones who became upset when somebody says something and do violence against them. | Oct 11 11:28 |
| jagadees | We have to do something to make FSF less fascist. | Oct 11 11:28 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire#/media/File:The_British_Empire.png almost every country in red there has UK based workplace laws. There are a few more countries not in red who decide for business relations they would also copy the UK laws on workplaces. | Oct 11 11:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | British Empire - Wikipedia | Oct 11 11:30 | |
| oiaohm | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:France_colonial_Empire10.png then you have the french who took equal laws around. So join those two maps up that a good percentage of the earth surface. | Oct 11 11:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:France colonial Empire10.png - Wikipedia | Oct 11 11:32 | |
| oiaohm | That without countries who decide todo it in trade agreements and other things. | Oct 11 11:35 |
| MrGreenFriend | RMS should found the "LSF" (Libre Software Foundation) | Oct 11 11:35 |
| zoobab | +1 | Oct 11 11:35 |
| schestowitz | sounds Latin | Oct 11 11:35 |
| MinceR | only after researching cancerd | Oct 11 11:35 |
| schestowitz | lol | Oct 11 11:36 |
| schestowitz | Cancer Research UK | Oct 11 11:36 |
| schestowitz | CancerD Research RMS | Oct 11 11:36 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 11 11:36 |
| schestowitz | Royal Mail | Oct 11 11:36 |
| schestowitz | (Service) | Oct 11 11:36 |
| schestowitz | like the boats | Oct 11 11:36 |
| MinceR | Root Mean Squared | Oct 11 11:37 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1182581102667616257 | Oct 11 11:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #Linux, the #kernel , continues its trajectory or the route towards becoming Open Source Proprietary Software (OSPS) https://t.co/KIzYdxuncn | Oct 11 11:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Software Freedom Eroding in Linux and Nobody Seems to Care or Oppose This | Techrights | Oct 11 11:38 | |
| schestowitz | And I did not even mention systemd | Oct 11 11:38 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/1182582721928974336 | Oct 11 11:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The non-Linux-using #LinuxFoundation and how it views the Linux project https://t.co/ovleaN3hN2 #kernel | Oct 11 11:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Linux Oughtn’t Be Just a Brand | Techrights | Oct 11 11:38 | |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 11 11:39 |
| oiaohm | MrGreenFriend: really you are not thinking the labour/workplace laws effect you as soon as you are management for something. | Oct 11 11:39 |
| oiaohm | MrGreenFriend: we have got use to these laws not being enforced. | Oct 11 11:40 |
| MrGreenFriend | RMS did not get in trouble with Law Enforcement. | Oct 11 11:41 |
| MrGreenFriend | and if it does go to court, i bet he wins | Oct 11 11:41 |
| schestowitz | asking someone on a date is not a crime | Oct 11 11:42 |
| schestowitz | even if he or she is not interested | Oct 11 11:42 |
| MinceR | yet | Oct 11 11:42 |
| schestowitz | I don't think even sharia law forbids such advances | Oct 11 11:42 |
| schestowitz | though whatever tjhe circumstance, the women will be blamed | Oct 11 11:42 |
| MinceR | finally a chance for crybullies to outdo sharia | Oct 11 11:42 |
| schestowitz | either for allowing or not dressing up 'properly', or for accusing the rapist of... well, raping | Oct 11 11:43 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they never talk about Islam | Oct 11 11:43 |
| MinceR | yeah | Oct 11 11:45 |
| MinceR | christian neofascists believe that christianity doesn't have the issues islam has where they're identical | Oct 11 11:45 |
| MinceR | and crybullies believe it the other way around | Oct 11 11:45 |
| MinceR | apparently | Oct 11 11:45 |
| MinceR | i wonder where muslim fundamentalist neofascists (like erdogan) stand on this | Oct 11 11:46 |
| MinceR | they must be torn :> | Oct 11 11:46 |
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| XRevan86 | https://qt.io/blog/change-in-open-source-licensing-of-qt-wayland-compositor-qt-application-manager-and-qt-pdf | Oct 11 15:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | Change in open-source licensing of Qt Wayland Compositor, Qt Application Manager and Qt PDF | Oct 11 15:35 | |
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| oiaohm | XRevan86: this is interesting wonder if it will see more interest in gtk solution. | Oct 11 15:42 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: Unlikely. | Oct 11 15:42 |
| scientes | HDCP in Linux | Oct 11 16:01 |
| scientes | XRevan86, oh wow, they are changing back | Oct 11 16:02 |
| scientes | • Qt Quick WebGL | Oct 11 16:03 |
| scientes | yeah, that's a pretty agressive move | Oct 11 16:03 |
| scientes | and it does nothing for QT because QT is already too insane for the GPL to help it | Oct 11 16:04 |
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| oiaohm | scientes: hdcp in Linux as third party horrible one of patched appeared early 2010. | Oct 11 16:10 |
| scientes | if they merge hdcp into linux, then it needs to include a module to dump the hdcp stream | Oct 11 16:11 |
| zoobab | HDCP is DRMed right? | Oct 11 16:11 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Oct 11 16:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Protected Video Path" and "Protected Audio Path" in Microsoft speak. | Oct 11 16:43 |
| oiaohm | Those reversing HDCP v1 worked out it was in fact intended for something other than protecting content particularly with how simple it turns out to in fact recover the master key. | Oct 11 16:46 |
| oiaohm | Intel being strong arm really prevents HDCPv1 being used for what it was first designed for. | Oct 11 16:47 |
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| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9U-f-vtXkQ | Oct 11 20:13 |
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| decnet | "A Code Glitch May Have Caused Errors In More Than 100 Published Studies" | Oct 11 20:40 |
| decnet | https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/zmjwda/a-code-glitch-may-have-caused-errors-in-more-than-100-published-studies?utm_source=digg | Oct 11 20:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Code Glitch May Have Caused Errors In More Than 100 Published Studies - VICE | Oct 11 20:40 | |
| decnet | "The glitch caused results of a common chemistry computation to vary depending on the operating system used, causing discrepancies among Mac, Windows, and Linux systems" | Oct 11 20:41 |
| schestowitz | r0/ | Oct 11 20:41 |
| decnet | Good Grief! | Oct 11 20:41 |
| schestowitz | I saw something similar today about DLLs | Oct 11 20:41 |
| schestowitz | They said it affected all platforms | Oct 11 20:41 |
| schestowitz | what, what. what? | Oct 11 20:41 |
| schestowitz | mono maybe | Oct 11 20:41 |
| decnet | didn't anyone run error detection on the results? | Oct 11 20:41 |
| decnet | I mean compare he results from two different algorithms? | Oct 11 20:42 |
| decnet | "Luo used a script written in Python" why would Python give different results depending on platform, rounding errors on very small and very large floating point numbers? | Oct 11 20:44 |
| MinceR | rounding errors weren't the issue, afaict | Oct 11 20:44 |
| MinceR | sorting order of files was | Oct 11 20:44 |
| MinceR | which calls their methods into question | Oct 11 20:44 |
| decnet | Interesting .. | Oct 11 20:45 |
| decnet | “We all kind of assume that a computer program always spits out the correct answer.” | Oct 11 20:46 |
| decnet | no we don't, I automatically assume there's bugs in the script or coding errors! | Oct 11 20:46 |
| MinceR | "On two occasions I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." -- Charles Babbage | Oct 11 20:47 |
| decnet | Haaa .. | Oct 11 20:47 |
| decnet | https://pubs.acs.org/na101/home/literatum/publisher/achs/journals/content/orlef7/0/orlef7.ahead-of-print/acs.orglett.9b03216/20191007/images/medium/ol9b03216_0003.gif | Oct 11 20:48 |
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| decnet | Haaar; https://digg.com/video/helicopter-indonesia-military-parade-podium-wrecked-fail | Oct 11 20:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Helicopter Flies Too Low During Indonesian Military Parade, Ends Up Destroying VIP Podium - Digg | Oct 11 20:52 | |
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| MinceR | https://full.pr0gramm.com/2019/07/30/3bee8f69a80bde10.jpg | Oct 11 21:36 |
| decnet | "Cisco Outage Cripples Download Centre, Blog, More" | Oct 11 21:38 |
| decnet | https://www.cbronline.com/news/cisco-outage-issues | Oct 11 21:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbronline.com | Cisco Outage: Software Updates, Corporate Blog Go Walkies | Oct 11 21:38 | |
| decnet | good grief; but the "Cloud" never goes down :] | Oct 11 21:39 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 11 21:39 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19071754 | Oct 11 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Oct 11 21:43 | |
| psydroid | I was at Google Cloud Summit Amsterdam yesterday, most smaller companies appear to have given up and are now "cloud partners" | Oct 11 21:45 |
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| decnet | Cloud Pyramid Franchise, you don't own or control your own business. IT isn't an expense it is your business! | Oct 11 21:47 |
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| psydroid | IT isn't even your business anymore, as you go bankrupt because of a glitch in the cloud! | Oct 11 21:49 |
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| XRevan86 | > started the worlds stupidest most moronic religion ever | Oct 11 21:54 |
| XRevan86 | What about Scientology? | Oct 11 21:54 |
| MinceR | it's an industry of heavy competition | Oct 11 21:57 |
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| decnet | "God Loves the Cloud and It's Time to Get Religion" | Oct 11 22:04 |
| decnet | https://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/78948.html | Oct 11 22:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ecommercetimes.com | God Loves the Cloud and It's Time to Get Religion | Cloud Computing | E-Commerce Times | Oct 11 22:04 | |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 11 22:05 |
| MinceR | Religion as a Service | Oct 11 22:05 |
| decnet | Where's the confession app :] | Oct 11 22:05 |
| XRevan86 | decnet: You mean Siri? | Oct 11 22:06 |
| decnet | The questions are, how much money do you save by moving to the cloud and can I make money out of the Cloud? | Oct 11 22:06 |
| decnet | less me Siri for I have sinned. | Oct 11 22:07 |
| MinceR | all your communications are confessions | Oct 11 22:07 |
| MinceR | including everything your voice "assistants" hear | Oct 11 22:08 |
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| decnet | [B]less me Siri for I have sinned | Oct 11 22:10 |
| schestowitz | decnet: MinceR you might want to read- Tux Machines: Where do all the censored developers go? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129180 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e9d043ae-81bf-45df-8bd7-beb19440d1dd] | Oct 11 22:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Where do all the censored developers go? | Tux Machines | Oct 11 22:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Oct 11 22:10 | |
| schestowitz | this is something we often chat about | Oct 11 22:10 |
| schestowitz | fedora, fsfe fsf etc. censor devs | Oct 11 22:10 |
| schestowitz | critical of... well, anythijng | Oct 11 22:10 |
| decnet | How so censored? | Oct 11 22:11 |
| schestowitz | read it | Oct 11 22:11 |
| schestowitz | and his prior article | Oct 11 22:11 |
| schestowitz | they get blacklisted | Oct 11 22:11 |
| schestowitz | messages blocked from mailing lists | Oct 11 22:11 |
| schestowitz | removed from devs' "Planets" | Oct 11 22:11 |
| decnet | I'm reading it .. | Oct 11 22:12 |
| MinceR | so am i | Oct 11 22:12 |
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| schestowitz | gsoc and mozilla also | Oct 11 22:14 |
| schestowitz | all the big projects | Oct 11 22:14 |
| schestowitz | criticism not allowed | Oct 11 22:14 |
| schestowitz | I guess systemd also | Oct 11 22:14 |
| schestowitz | "Freedom".... from being criticised | Oct 11 22:15 |
| MinceR | freedom to encroach on the rights of others | Oct 11 22:15 |
| schestowitz | in the name of protecting people | Oct 11 22:15 |
| schestowitz | words are violence | Oct 11 22:16 |
| MinceR | freedom to deny the freedom of others | Oct 11 22:16 |
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| MinceR | freedom from being offended at the cost of the freedoms of others (see also: European Court of "Human Rights") | Oct 11 22:17 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos and programming bits http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129183 [https://pleroma.site/objects/60248fc9-bf02-4fd2-91fc-1200169ab934] | Oct 11 22:27 | |
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| *psydroid can't hide the feeling that he is witnessing the downfall of Rome all over again | Oct 11 23:04 | |
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| kotten | just me or does google screw the search results alot? | Oct 11 23:14 |
| scientes | kotten, its called bubbling | Oct 11 23:14 |
| kotten | scientes what does that mean? | Oct 11 23:15 |
| scientes | kotten, they tell you what they think you want to hear | Oct 11 23:15 |
| kotten | scientes no thats not it | Oct 11 23:15 |
| kotten | scientes when they show me what they want me to hear. | Oct 11 23:16 |
| kotten | I searched for Steven Crowder change my mind | Oct 11 23:16 |
| kotten | For a YT channel with 4M+ subscribers | Oct 11 23:16 |
| kotten | and they give me other shit | Oct 11 23:17 |
| kotten | Bing, yahoo gives me what I am looking for and what is the logical conclusion based on my search results | Oct 11 23:17 |
| scientes | psydroid, wow, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iO5SGsWk54 | Oct 11 23:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Monty Python "A Silly Place" - YouTube | Oct 11 23:18 | |
| scientes | psydroid, Putin said last Saturday that the us will collapse soon | Oct 11 23:18 |
| MinceR | has he given the order to Agent Orange? | Oct 11 23:19 |
| kotten | MinceR Aren't we in the ukrainegate now? Which hates russia? | Oct 11 23:19 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Oct 11 23:20 |
| kotten | I am not keeping tabs on what we are supposed to be upset about | Oct 11 23:20 |
| scientes | Googlian https://danielpocock.com/google-money-censorship-free-software/ | Oct 11 23:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google, Money and Censorship in Free Software communities | DanielPocock.com | Oct 11 23:20 | |
| kotten | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX2uR-KqD8o | Oct 11 23:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Remy: This is CNN - YouTube | Oct 11 23:20 | |
| MinceR | depends on whom you ask anyway | Oct 11 23:20 |
| scientes | do you run Googlian? | Oct 11 23:20 |
| scientes | oh wow, Google can retroactively decide not to pay people | Oct 11 23:22 |
| scientes | in GSOC | Oct 11 23:22 |
| scientes | kinda points out what schestowitz said of GSOC before | Oct 11 23:22 |
| scientes | gives them political power | Oct 11 23:22 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: "Putin said last Saturday that the us will collapse soon" – you know it's not the first time, right? | Oct 11 23:22 |
| scientes | well I agree, and he has obviously known about it for a long time | Oct 11 23:23 |
| scientes | he is not stupid after all | Oct 11 23:23 |
| kotten | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX2uR-KqD8o | Oct 11 23:23 |
| scientes | RT has been saying stuff like this since at least Libya | Oct 11 23:23 |
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| scientes | > | Oct 11 23:26 |
| scientes | When I posted a message of support for Richard Stallman on the FSF's LibrePlanet list recently, it was also censored. Since I exposed the censorship on my blog this week, various people have tried to retrospectively make up reasons for censoring the message. | Oct 11 23:26 |
| kotten | scientes https://pics.me.me/google-ideas-no-ingsoc-are-harmful-wrongthink-war-is-peace-27009162.png | Oct 11 23:28 |
| psydroid | scientes, I may never even visit the US, not even for holidays, but my sister is going to NYC with her family this Christmas after a previous visit to Florida | Oct 11 23:28 |
| scientes | also, we need to fork the FSF projects | Oct 11 23:29 |
| scientes | to not assign copyright to FSF | Oct 11 23:29 |
| MinceR | i guess the us just keeps collapsing and we're just too stupid to notice | Oct 11 23:29 |
| MinceR | s/ng/ng all the time/ | Oct 11 23:29 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Oct 11 23:29 |
| psydroid | some guy from Canada added me on LinkedIn a few years ago and told me he would contact me for jobs there when I am done with my studies | Oct 11 23:31 |
| psydroid | I'd rather move to Switzerland | Oct 11 23:32 |
| kotten | FreeBSD or the latest *nix kernel(whatever it now contains)? | Oct 11 23:32 |
| psydroid | but I can't tell him that, can I? | Oct 11 23:32 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: https://youtu.be/deeXxE5l9Js | Oct 11 23:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Юрий Визбор Рассказ технолога Петухова - YouTube | Oct 11 23:33 | |
| scientes | which Петухова? | Oct 11 23:34 |
| XRevan86 | * Петухов | Oct 11 23:35 |
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| scientes | oh yeah | Oct 11 23:35 |
| scientes | names inflected too | Oct 11 23:36 |
| XRevan86 | It's a bard song that got very famous as a satire for having a universal answer | Oct 11 23:36 |
| XRevan86 | - It's cold here. | Oct 11 23:36 |
| XRevan86 | - But we're making rockets. | Oct 11 23:36 |
| scientes | hehehe, that is funny | Oct 11 23:37 |
| *scientes wonders if he can snuggle with a IBCM for warmth. | Oct 11 23:37 | |
| XRevan86 | And in the area of ballet we're further than the rest of the planet | Oct 11 23:38 |
| *scientes saw Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet in Lima | Oct 11 23:38 | |
| scientes | performed by the Peru national ballet | Oct 11 23:38 |
| scientes | I did apply for a graduate school scholarship for CS in Russia | Oct 11 23:40 |
| scientes | after seeing people at the embassy in La Paz who had scholarships | Oct 11 23:40 |
| XRevan86 | It's kind of a trope: even if the Western civilisation has something better than Russia, there's no point in looking there for advice, since it won't last anyway. | Oct 11 23:41 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: My view of the Putin's statements of the USA not lasting is coloured by this. | Oct 11 23:41 |
| scientes | well, it really is happening | Oct 11 23:42 |
| scientes | I just didn't know what to think of him saying it | Oct 11 23:42 |
| scientes | especially as halting oil exports would make it happen overnight | Oct 11 23:42 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: You know he risks nothing by saying stuff like that, right? | Oct 11 23:42 |
| XRevan86 | It's not brave. | Oct 11 23:42 |
| scientes | no, it is not | Oct 11 23:43 |
| scientes | never thought that | Oct 11 23:43 |
| scientes | Its more dickish | Oct 11 23:43 |
| scientes | I said I wanted to do personal study of this course http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~cs9242/current/ | Oct 11 23:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cse.unsw.edu.au | Course Timetable | Oct 11 23:43 | |
| XRevan86 | Peskov recently justified police beatings on protests: if in the US someone were to throw an empty plastic cup in the direction of a police officer, that person would've been shot on the spot | Oct 11 23:44 |
| XRevan86 | classical whataboutism | Oct 11 23:44 |
| scientes | yes | Oct 11 23:44 |
| scientes | RT is full of it too | Oct 11 23:44 |
| XRevan86 | police beatings && prosecution of protestants | Oct 11 23:45 |
| scientes | and that is why they won't answer to that cancer centre scandel | Oct 11 23:45 |
| scientes | it would give the doctor's union too much voice | Oct 11 23:45 |
| scientes | irrespective of the facts | Oct 11 23:45 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: If they'd seriously try to fix these issues… | Oct 11 23:46 |
| scientes | the pot calling the kettle black | Oct 11 23:47 |
| XRevan86 | Corruption is not an isolated incident, if they try to pull that string, more will follow. Including people they don't want to cross. Or literally themselves. | Oct 11 23:47 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: My money is on current regime of the USA outlasting Putin's | Oct 11 23:51 |
| scientes | 2 2 4TOBOGGANS AND THEIR USE.[FF.nRUARY,Be careful to fasten the brace, G, on the under side other side, and then your toboggan vv.li be com- as the board lies flat upon the iloor of your work- píete. A t F and L you can attach a coid, and when shop You are now ready to bend the end from E sliding you must use a sharp stick for steenng this to G ’ If the board is not too thick you can do it strange | Oct 11 23:51 |
| scientes | . Here you have a picture of two boysO N A T O B O G G A N .at once; but if there is any trouble you can use on a toboggan. They have wrapped themselvessteam or hot water. Having bent it with a grace- up warmly and do not care for the snow. I hopeful curve, fasten with bits of leather the points G that you all will have as good a time as they ai e hav-and E, and also the corresponding points on the | Oct 11 23:51 |
| scientes | you should succeed in making a to oggan.POT AND KETTLE.‘ OhO ! ” said the pot to the kettle ;“ You ’re dirty and ugly and black !Sure no one would think you were metal, Except when yo u ’re given a crack.”‘ Not so ! not so ! ” kettle said to the pot.“ ’T is your own dirty image you se e;For I am so clean— without blemish or blot- Tliat your blackness is mirrored in | Oct 11 23:51 |
| scientes | ewww, that was horrible | Oct 11 23:51 |
| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pot_calling_the_kettle_black#Origin | Oct 11 23:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The pot calling the kettle black - Wikipedia | Oct 11 23:51 | |
| XRevan86 | Not that Putin's predictions have a stellar success rate either way. | Oct 11 23:52 |
| scientes | well....I don't want to get into it | Oct 11 23:52 |
| psydroid | who is going to succeed Putin anyway? | Oct 11 23:53 |
| scientes | ^^^^ | Oct 11 23:53 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: What I'm trying to say is that this "expert prediction" is practically empty. | Oct 11 23:53 |
| scientes | and I am trying to say that I didn't see it as such | Oct 11 23:53 |
| XRevan86 | psydroid: Considering how the last elections (2018) went, they don't know. | Oct 11 23:54 |
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| XRevan86 | There were rumours of a successor, Putin were saying stuff like "I dunno if I'll nominate myself this time" and changed his mind at the last moment. | Oct 11 23:54 |
| XRevan86 | I see it as a sign that they were trying to think of an alternative, but in the end gave up. | Oct 11 23:55 |
| MinceR | they were trying to think? that must have hurt | Oct 11 23:55 |
| XRevan86 | After all, they're looking for a rare gem: a strong leader vibe person but also a complete puppet | Oct 11 23:55 |
| scientes | XRevan86, isn't everyone? | Oct 11 23:56 |
| scientes | have your cake and eat it too | Oct 11 23:56 |
| XRevan86 | someone whose charisma will cast a shadow on all internal affairs issues. | Oct 11 23:57 |
| XRevan86 | not the right choice of words… | Oct 11 23:58 |
| scientes | sounds like stalin | Oct 11 23:58 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: What was that word from the verse about outshining the Sun? | Oct 11 23:59 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Stalin won't qualify, he was uncontrollable. | Oct 11 23:59 |
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