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[00:00]	DaemonFC	https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/10/economy/jobs-recession-unemployment/index.html
[00:00]	TR Bot	 US economy will soon start losing 175,000 jobs a month, Bank of America warns | CNN Business
[00:00]	DaemonFC	https://www.fastcompany.com/90794350/scoop-redesign-health-lays-off-67-employees-a-month-after-raising-65-million
[00:00]	TR Bot	 Redesign Health lays off 67 employees a month after raising $65 millio
[00:01]	DaemonFC	R-Zero Systems in Salt Lake City lays off 30% of the company in internal memo. (Healthcare)
[00:02]	DaemonFC	Clarus Commerce in Connecticut lays off 100 (35%) (e-commerce)
[00:02]	DaemonFC	Geico in Maryland (Insurance) lays off 75
[00:03]	DaemonFC	Biomarin in Los Angeles (Healthcare) lays off 120
[00:03]	DaemonFC	https://www.insurancebusinessmag.com/us/news/breaking-news/geico-announces-major-layoffs-423210.aspx
[00:03]	TR Bot	 GEICO announces major layoffs | Insurance Business America
[00:04]	DaemonFC	Right after they jacked up my premium.
[00:04]	DaemonFC	"As reported by Ad Age, GEICOs staff cuts come after a series of challenges the insurer recently announced that it will raise rates in Illinois by 6% and shut 38 of its offices in California, halting sales of insurance in the state. The decision to lay off marketing staff also comes days after other employees announced their intent to unionize."
[00:05]	DaemonFC	"The insurer is also putting its account with Horizon Media which has represented GEICO for 25 years under review. MediaLink will be handling the review, sources have told marketing magazine Ad Age.
[00:05]	DaemonFC	Based on spot volume, GEICO was radios 13th largest advertiser for the six months of 2022. According to Media Monitors, the insurer aired 546,753 spots on AM/FM radio during the period."
[00:05]	DaemonFC	Makes sense. Radio ads are fairly cheap in most markets and most people listen in their car, and they are a car insurance company.
[00:05]	DaemonFC	If they shut 38 offices in California, then I'm certain more than 75 people got fired.
[00:11]	DaemonFC	eMarketers Insider Intelligence reports that insurers have long relied upon traditional advertising channels such as cable TV spots and radio ads, but that could soon change. The market research group has forecasted that about 33.1% of the US population will cut their paid TV cord this year, which could signal a significant shift from linear to digital video. But Insider Intelligence also...
[00:11]	DaemonFC	...noted that the insurance industrys digital ad spending is slowing down in 2022, compared to last year, though spending this year still hit an impressive $12.15 billion.
[00:11]	DaemonFC	LOL
[00:12]	DaemonFC	12 billion dollars of commercials with geckos and ostriches to convince you to get raped by their company so they can fight you for all the claims.
[00:14]	DaemonFC	https://www.thelayoff.com/geico
[00:14]	TR Bot	Layoffs - TheLayoff.com
[00:15]	DaemonFC	"New round of IT layoffs
[00:15]	DaemonFC	Approximately 350 people got laid off. Whole manager groups, none of the middle management seen it coming."
[00:16]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: My car insurance company is coming in and firing many hundreds of people today apparently.
[00:17]	DaemonFC	Trying to avoid media coverage of specific numbers, but one poster 5 minutes ago says 350 just in his IT department.
[00:17]	DaemonFC	They came in and fired everyone.
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[00:39]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: For 2021, mjg59_ 's employer lost over $755 million on just $82.5 million in revenue.
[00:40]	DaemonFC	With luck, they say, they MIGHT make it to 2024, if the CEO gives up his bonus (for losing 10 times more than they earn?) and they stop giving mjg59_ his lunch.
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[00:54]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Did I ever tell you about that time I was a repo man?
[00:54]	DaemonFC	After three weeks of seeing people at their worst, I quit without notice.
[00:55]	DaemonFC	It wasn't usually things like televisions.
[00:56]	DaemonFC	It was like, "Oh, you know how you financed a baby bed at 2900% interest because you're poor? I'm gonna need that back now.".
[00:56]	DaemonFC	It led to a bout of depression.
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[01:19]	DaemonFC	I don't put any investments in small cap stocks.
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[01:20]	DaemonFC	They're mostly like Matthew Garrett's employer. They lose money, then they lose more money, then they lose an incredibly large amount of money, and then they go under.
[01:21]	DaemonFC	I don't think Geico is collapsing. I think they're "optimizing". The insurance market is saturated.
[01:21]	DaemonFC	Customers are sticky.
[01:22]	DaemonFC	The established companies are tired of dealing with redundancies and quietly working together to set up a common system to file claims.
[01:22]	DaemonFC	The IT department wipeout today that saw 350 lose their jobs their and the claims adjuster layoffs coincide with Geico announcing they're joining Allstate in moving to a common claims management company the other major insurers are already using.
[01:23]	DaemonFC	They can outsource it and share the expense. They don't like expenses.
[01:23]	DaemonFC	They like premiums.
[01:25]	DaemonFC	Matt GULAG's employer will have a hard time trying to convince anyone it's valuable.
[01:25]	DaemonFC	Their own Sarbanes-Oxley compliance reports show that it isn't.
[01:28]	DaemonFC	I'd like to know why mjg59_ can't seem to find any honest work that doesn't involve stuff that imposes DRM and lock the computer user out of his property and tech that will flop but says the mission statement is to cause 100s of thousands of truck drivers to lose their jobs.
[01:29]	DaemonFC	Maybe he wants to cancel RMS because RMS said if he couldn't have found any honest work in computer software, he may have worked as a waiter at a restaurant.
[01:29]	DaemonFC	Because how are you going to make the world worse doing that?
[01:30]	DaemonFC	I honestly took the repo job because I figured it would be deadbeats and town drunks who financed TVs and stereos mostly and are trying to stiff the store.
[01:31]	DaemonFC	And it turned out to be completely different. Baby cribs. They got laid off and couldn't afford to keep the washing machine or a refrigerator.
[01:31]	DaemonFC	And so all of a sudden I was going out to people's homes and I had to be the one to say "I want your refrigerator and your baby crib now or I'll have to call the sheriff to help me out.".
[01:32]	DaemonFC	And that sucked. These were not the people that have a pile of empty beer cans but couldn't make their television installment.
[01:33]	DaemonFC	Most of it just rubbed me as so wrong to be out there threatening these people. The appliances themselves even tended to be on the cheaper end of the spectrum. The computer keeps a remaining value running and each time you get it back it's lost so much cash value that it's unbelievable.
[01:34]	DaemonFC	You could go in there and buy a $1,000 washing machine that had been in a couple of houses and all it would run you was $200.
[01:34]	DaemonFC	And the thing was less than a year old.
[01:34]	DaemonFC	Modern appliances.
[01:35]	DaemonFC	If the thing breaks down completely and we're still holding it, we have to dispose of it for like $10 in scrap metal.
[01:35]	DaemonFC	So there's an unannounced side business of selling appliances we know will crap out soon.
[01:36]	DaemonFC	Rent-to-Own is predatory. I mean if you had $150 you'd go to Walmart and buy this vacuum
[01:36]	DaemonFC	But here you are agreeing to make payments totaling $600 over the next year.
[01:36]	DaemonFC	And you have to come by the store every week to do it
[01:37]	DaemonFC	Like, most Americans are living like this, and mjg59_ doesn't care.
[01:37]	DaemonFC	He thinks the issue is what I called the mayor of Chicago as to a dramatic reading of why the voters did that.
[01:38]	DaemonFC	https://nitter.it/mjg59/status/1579321806208774144#m
[01:38]	TR Bot	Garrett (@mjg59): "Berkeley BART experience: someone angrily shouting at a sleeping houseless person who has his legs on a seat because he wants to put his bag there"|nitter.it
[01:39]	DaemonFC	I have a spare guest room. - mjg59_ 
[01:39]	DaemonFC	Hey Matt, did you offer him a hand up or are you patting yourself on the back for not being the guy who shouted "Move your ass!"?
[01:40]	DaemonFC	I mean if you live in a $2.3 million dollar house, you could get the guy a sandwich right?
[01:40]	DaemonFC	Have fun in Phil Collins' paradise Matt.
[01:42]	DaemonFC	If it's any consolation, Mayor Lori Beetlejuice Lightfoot doesn't have a plan for homeless people in Chicago. Unless it's to pull a Rahm and send the cops to burn their stuff and beat them within an inch of their life. It's a shame you can't call her a carpet muncher. That's worse than her sending the cops to do that, isn't it?
[01:43]	DaemonFC	They weren't even bothering anyone. Nobody goes to Lower Lower Wacker. They were down there because it was twenty below zero and that's where the waste heat from places like the Trump building gets blown out.
[01:43]	DaemonFC	It stays warmer down there because the buildings put out a bunch of waste heat.
[01:44]	DaemonFC	But the Democrats sent the police down there to beat and burn because they wanted to remind everyone of who daddy is.
[01:48]	DaemonFC	https://scontent-ams4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/310549759_481892503957033_415971863968856862_n.jpg?stp=cp1_dst-jpg_e15_fr_q65&_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=s0GxMeak_XUAX86277D&_nc_ht=scontent-ams4-1.xx&oh=00_AT_oR1kgvxOJhmke4oJsgIs92UF3YftydU49ZAdwknae1A&oe=6349C1FA
[01:49]	DaemonFC	NBA spectators are being issued "warnings" for violating the "code of conduct".
[01:57]	starstreak	wubba lubba dub dub
[01:57]	starstreak	linucks btw
[01:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	all corps are bastards
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[02:07]	DaemonFC	starstreakwubba lubba dub dub
[02:07]	DaemonFC	My soul is also in great pain.
[02:11]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, and all cops too
[02:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	them too
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[02:27]	MinceR	and most humans
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[02:42]	starstreak	omg there is a Jeffry Dahmer tv show
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[02:44]	DaemonFC	Okay, I chiseled that brown gelatinous thing out of the bottom of the fridge.
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[02:48]	starstreak	living in the fridge!
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[02:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	 <starstreak> omg there is a Jeffry Dahmer tv show <- i hope its not on food network
[02:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	 <starstreak> <- oh youre a dork
[02:54]	starstreak	lol
[02:56]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, you're awefully quiet today
[02:57]	starstreak	today I was told that I don't know anything about stable or unstable software because im not a software engineer
[02:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	 because im not a software engineer <- if anything, not being a software engineer probably helps
[02:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	im sure mincer didnt tell you that, he knows too many software engineers
[02:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	then again, what software were we talking about :)
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[03:01]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, actually it was mincer and roy that did that
[03:02]	starstreak	LTS and non-LTS distros and linux kernel versions
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[03:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	 actually it was mincer and roy that did that <- well, mincer should know better
[03:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	roy of course, doesnt
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[03:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	chances are, the thing you allegedly dont know anything about is well understood by any number of non-software-engineers
[03:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	and roy is not a software engineer anyway
[03:06]	starstreak	i noticed that trend
[03:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	by the same logic that mjg is not a security expert (which may be true, but i take issue with the assumption)
[03:06]	starstreak	"Everyone who disagrees with us must be because they aren't a software engineer"
[03:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	i still think mincer is wiser than that. everyone has off days
[03:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	 (which may be true, but i take issue with the assumption) <- mjg may or may not be a security expert, but saying that someone isnt a security expert because theyre are a biologist is stupid
[03:08]	starstreak	"I don't want a new feature unless its been tested for two years"
[03:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	 "I don't want a new feature unless its been tested for two years" <- in some situations thats perfectly reasonable
[03:08]	starstreak	lol
[03:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	i wont say you dont know anything about stability in software, but that doesnt mean we agree on what stability is
[03:09]	starstreak	im not a corporation trying to save money on man hours
[03:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	 im not a corporation trying to save money on man hours <- point for you
[03:10]	starstreak	i always forget that the non technical people don't want to upgrade all the time
[03:11]	DaemonFC	mjg59_: You remind me of when the DEA is questioning Mike in Breaking Bad about why a fried chicken chain needs a chief of security.
[03:11]	DaemonFC	"What, are you guarding the secret sauce or something?"
[03:11]	AdmFubar	>>>brown gelatinous thing out of the bottom of the fridge<<<< love those... they're extra thick and zesty!
[03:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	i prefer upgrades to downgrades
[03:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	with that said, upgrades are important
[03:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	or at least some of them are
[03:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	in windows you get upgrades whether you want them or not
[03:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	this is not good
[03:14]	starstreak	i dont like the term "stable" and "unstable", its not like "unstable" stuff is crashing constantly
[03:14]	starstreak	my system never crashes, none of the apps
[03:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	its not like "unstable" stuff is crashing constantly <- its not like "not crashing constantly" is "stable" enough for everyone though
[03:16]	starstreak	i still don't have gnome 43
[03:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	for example, that criteria isnt exactly reassuring from a security standpoint
[03:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	i still don't have gnome 43 <- im beginning to doubt it exists
[03:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	was the release date april 1?
[03:16]	starstreak	well i can see people using "stable" for servers but not for workstations/laptops/etc
[03:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	i can see people using "stable" for servers <- this is the most obvious situation where it matters
[03:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	also, stable in debian was a bfd
[03:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	testing turned into a giant pile of shit before stable did :)
[03:17]	starstreak	bfd?
[03:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	as a rule, testing was very stable. then they broke the rule and it wasnt
[03:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	bfd = big fucking deal
[03:18]	starstreak	im using centos stream 9 on my server, it a rolling distro, but it doesn't roll past what will eventually be in RHEL
[03:18]	starstreak	so i get updates before Alma,Rocky,etc
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[03:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	your option
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[03:20]	starstreak	of course, you need cjdns to access the server lol
[03:20]	starstreak	i got a darknet webserver on the cjdns protocol
[03:20]	starstreak	sharing my occult books
[03:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	awesome
[03:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	so you set that up already?
[03:24]	starstreak	its almost ready to go
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[05:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	xfce is AWFUL
[05:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	the shit it brings in, its like having a dog that eats every other dogs poop
[05:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	i used to think it was great. the first distros i relied to remove my last copy of windows were xubuntu and dsl-- but i cant recommend xfce to anyone
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[05:33]	TR News	"Its time to get me up on speed with modern CSS." https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day11/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovic
[05:33]	TR Bot	 Day 11: space-separated functional color notations - Manuel Matuzovi
[05:33]	TR News	"The lack of success in web clippers may be because of Chrome's locked-down extension policy." https://matt-rickard.com/on-web-clipping | Source: Matt Rickard
[05:33]	TR Bot	 On Web Clipping
[05:33]	TR News	"So, if we can extract that information we can restore the right date and time for our photo file." https://box.matto.nl/set-filedate-on-photo-according-to-exif.html | Source: MJ Fransen
[05:33]	TR Bot	filedate on photo according to EXIF - box.matto.nl
[05:34]	TR News	"This may seem a slightly odd series of posts for me. I normally talk about solar, electronics, and associated technologies." https://www.sevarg.net/2022/10/09/keropunk-part-1-kerosene-lanterns/ | Source: Russell Graves
[05:34]	TR Bot	 Keropunk Part 1: Lanterns
[05:34]	TR News	"I was pleasantly surprised by how easy it was to make it possible to push a PCs power button remotely via MQTT" https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/2022-10-09-remote-power-button/ | Source: Michael Stapelberg
[05:34]	TR Bot	 DIY out-of-band management: remote power button - Michael Stapelberg
[05:34]	TR News	"Ive been testing various things with the Archimedes A3010 (which I have been calling Archie) and noticed a problem." https://linuxjedi.co.uk/2022/10/09/acorn-archimedes-a3010-restoration-part-3/ | Source: Andrew Hutchings
[05:34]	TR Bot	 Acorn Archimedes A3010: Restoration Part 3 LinuxJedi's /dev/null
[05:35]	TR News	"It's the --resolve option (more solutions can be found in "Name resolve tricks")." https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/29132 | Source: SANS
[05:35]	TR Bot	 InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center
[05:38]	TR News	"The approach that we're taking at Oxide is radically different: instead of merely relying on marginally better implementations of dated abstractions, we are eliminating the abstractions entirely." https://www.osfc.io/2022/talks/i-have-come-to-bury-the-bios-not-to-open-it-the-need-for-holistic-systems/ |
[05:38]	TR Bot	 I have come to bury the BIOS, not to open it: The need for holistic systems - OSFC
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[05:39]	TR News	AITemplate https://analyticsindiamag.com/meta-open-sources-an-ai-inference-engine-that-works-on-both-nvidia-amd-gpus/ | Source: AIM
[05:39]	TR Bot	 Meta Open Sources An AI Inference Engine That Works On Both NVIDIA & AMD GPUs
[05:39]	TR News	[Old] "Finally, this book argues that open source can have relevant implications on intellectual property [sic] rights [sic] policy." http://lib.tkk.fi/Diss/2005/isbn9529187793/ |
[05:39]	TR Bot	 Vlimki: The Rise of Open Source Licensing. A Challenge to the Use of Intellectual Property in the Software Industry, ISBN 952-91-8779-3
[05:40]	TR News	[Old] "This paper analyses how several open source companies use dual licensing: both open source and proprietary licenses for one product." http://old.hiit.fi/files/admin/sab/SAB04/material/DE/30_Valimaki%20-%20dual_licensing.pdf |
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[05:40]	TR News	"The trick is for the compiler to recognise what sort of model its compiling" https://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2022/10/10/ml-models-must-also-think-about-trusting-trust/ | Source: Light Blue Touchpaper
[05:40]	TR Bot	 ML models must also think about trusting trust | Light Blue Touchpaper
[05:41]	TR News	"Ive been doing it this way for over six years, and it works great" https://sive.rs/shc | Source: Derek Sivers
[05:41]	TR Bot	 Static HTML comments | Derek Sivers
[05:41]	TR News	"It features different fonts for strings vs symbols (which you can change with -l and -g respectively)." https://idiomdrottning.org/cst | Source: Idiomdrottning
[05:41]	TR Bot	 cst
[05:41]	TR News	"When you prepare for a job interview one of the questions they always tell you to prepare is What are you most proud of?.When you prepare for a job interview one of the questions they always tell you to prepare is What are you most proud of?." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/10/map-any-region-in-the-world-with-r-part-i-the-basic-map/ | Source: Rlang
[05:41]	TR Bot	any region in the world with R Part I: The basic map | R-bloggers
[05:42]	TR News	"Chafkin calculates that the global R&D budget for AVs has now exceeded $100 billion" https://pluralistic.net/2022/10/09/herbies-revenge/#100-billion-here-100-billion-there-pretty-soon-youre-talking-real-money | Source: CoryDoctorow
[05:42]	TR Bot	 Pluralistic: 09 Oct 2022 $100 billion later, autonomous vehicles are still a car-wreck Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
[05:42]	TR News	"As a developer managing containerized applications can be daunting especially when it comes to using a command-line interface" https://earthly.dev/blog/explore-portainer-as-tool/ | Source: Earthly
[05:42]	TR Bot	 Exploring Portainer As A Tool For Managing Docker Containers - Earthly Blog
[05:42]	TR News	"Since brevs defines are just me hacking in matchable support in the define headers" https://idiomdrottning.org/struct-define | Source: Idiomdrottning
[05:42]	TR Bot	 Record destructuring with brev
[05:42]	TR News	"This tutorial will help you install Eclipse with its visual development tool Window Builder." https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/10/how-to-install-eclipse-with-windowbuilder-on-ubuntu.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
[05:42]	TR Bot	 How To Install Eclipse with WindowBuilder on Ubuntu
[05:43]	TR News	"So while anti cheat detection is enhanced so is the cheater and while drugs are banned yearly - many new ones are invented" https://connortumbleson.com/2022/10/10/cheating-on-the-rise/ |
[05:43]	TR Bot	 Cheating on the rise.
[05:43]	TR News	"Today for reasons outside the scope of this entry I found myself looking at the release dates for the various editions (versions) of Research Unix up through the pivotal V7 release." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/V7LongTimeGap | Source: uni Toronto
[05:43]	TR Bot	 Chris's Wiki :: blog/unix/V7LongTimeGap
[05:44]	TR News	"I'm also really proud of anode-kv so far. The core architecture is based on what I read in Architecture of a Database System" https://ntietz.com/blog/rc-week-3-recap/ | Source: Nicholas Tietz-Sokolsky
[05:44]	TR Bot	 RC Week 3: Returning to Math | nicholas@web
[05:45]	TR News	"These were the words that a 43-year old mother of three shared on a video clip she posted to Facebook shortly before her death from COVID-19 in August of 2020." https://www.salon.com/2022/10/10/the-political-purgatory-of-the/ | Source: Salon
[05:45]	TR Bot	political purgatory of the COVID dead | Salon.com
[05:45]	TR News	"Lockdowns are a mess in China. Its absolutely destroying the electronics market in China and my hometown had been placed in quarantine for close to a month in August/September." https://www.xyte.ch/2022/10/10/t700-and-my-apology/ | Source: XueYao
[05:45]	TR Bot	reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.xyte.ch/2022/10/10/t700-and-my-apology/ )
[05:46]	TR News	Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.databreaches.net/how-ransomware-is-causing-chaos-in-american-schools/ | Source: Data Breaches
[05:46]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/how-ransomware-is-causing-chaos-in-american-schools/ )
[05:47]	TR News	Microsoft facilitating fraud https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/10/complex-impersonation-story.html | Source: Bruce Schneier [Old] https://connortumbleson.com/2022/09/19/someone-is-pretending-to-be-me/
[05:47]	TR Bot	Impersonation Story - Schneier on Security
[05:47]	TR Bot	 Someone is pretending to be me.
[05:48]	TR News	"Data stolen [sic] during an attack on Singapore's multinational telecommunications conglomerate Singtel" https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/singtel-s-old-data-first-posted-on-dark-web-in-feb-2021-researcher.html | Source: IT Wire
[05:48]	TR Bot	- Singtel's 'old data' first posted on dark web in Feb 2021: researcher
[05:48]	TR News	"Singapore Telecommunications Ltd said on Monday its unit Dialog faced a cyber attack that potentially affected 1,000 current and former employees" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/singtels-second-unit-faces-cyber-attack-weeks-after-optus-data-breach/94755282 | Source: India Times
[05:48]	TR Bot	 Singtel: Singtel's second unit faces cyber attack weeks after Optus data breach, CIO News, ET CIO
[05:49]	TR News	"Wall Street Journal reporters Josh Chin and Liza Lin argue in their new book Surveillance State" https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/10/10/1060982/china-pandemic-cameras-surveillance-state-book/ | Source: MIT Technology Review
[05:49]	TR Bot	 The Chinese surveillance state proves that the idea of privacy is more malleable than youd expect | MIT Technology Review
[05:49]	TR News	"The company's growth, bolstered by advertising revenue in China that last year surpassed 200 billion yuan" https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/bytedance-faces-tough-sell-abroad-in-bid-to-commercialise-tiktok | Source: The Straits Times
[05:49]	TR Bot	 ByteDance faces tough sell abroad in bid to commercialise TikTok | The Straits Times
[05:49]	TR News	"In one example, a woman was carrying an iPhone 14 Pro while riding a roller coaster" eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/2022/10/10/iphone-14-roller-coaster-crash-detection/8235378001/ | Source: Gannett
[05:49]	TR News	"In response to a test done by The Wall Street Journal in a junkyard where the iPhone failed to notice some car crashes" https://www.macrumors.com/2022/10/10/iphone-14-crash-detection-on-rollercoaster/ | Source: MacRumors
[05:49]	TR Bot	14's Crash Detection Mistaking Roller Coaster Rides for Car Crashes - MacRumors
[05:50]	TR News	"This weeks report cites at least six calls from Kings Island amusement park in Cincinnati, Ohio" https://9to5google.com/2022/10/10/car-crash-detection-roller-coaster-iphone-pixel/ | Source: 9to5Google
[05:50]	TR Bot	 iPhone Car Crash Detection set off by roller coaster does Pixel?
[05:50]	TR News	"Kings Island has seen Crash Detection triggered falsely by the parks roller coasters at least six different times" https://9to5mac.com/2022/10/09/roller-iphone-14-crash-detection-workaround/ | Source: 9to5Mac
[05:50]	TR Bot	coaster iPhone crash detection fix - 9to5Mac
[05:50]	TR News	"Separately, as per BBC, a few drivers have also described instances where the crash detection system was triggered because phones were dropped while their vehicle was moving." https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/apples-crash-detection-feature-repeatedly-mistakes-rollercoaster-rides-for-car-crashes-report-3419406 | Source: NDTV
[05:50]	TR Bot	 Apple's Crash Detection Feature Repeatedly Mistakes Rollercoaster Rides For Car Crashes: Report
[05:50]	TR News	Rollercoaster rides trigger emergency calls from new iPhones https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-63157888 | Source: BBC
[05:50]	TR Bot	rides trigger emergency calls from new iPhones - BBC News
[05:51]	TR News	"Apple may be able to update the detection to differentiate a roller coaster from a car crash" https://www.pcmag.com/news/iphone-14-crash-detection-calls-911-on-roller-coasters | Source: PC Mag
[05:51]	TR Bot	14 Crash Detection Calls 911 on Roller Coasters | PCMag
[05:51]	TR News	"Cell phones and other devices should not be brought aboard any attraction" https://www.businessinsider.co.za/apple-crash-detection-kicks-in-when-people-ride-roller-coasters-2022-10 |
[05:51]	TR Bot	 Apple's iPhone 14 crash detector is calling police when people ride roller coasters | Businessinsider
[05:51]	TR News	"Recently, Telegram founder Pavel Durov took to his Twitter account to share his thoughts about WhatsApp and privacy concerns." https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/whatsapp-has-been-a-surveillance-tool-for-13-years-telegram-founder-pavel-durov-urges-all-to-stay-away-from-app/94751171 | Source: India Times
[05:51]	TR Bot	 telegram: WhatsApp has been a surveillance tool for 13 years. Telegram founder Pavel Durov urges all to stay away from app, CIO News, ET CIO
[05:53]	TR News	Amnesty International UK https://dontextraditeassange.com/post/hacking-justice-julian-assange-film-screening-and-panel-discussion/ | Source: Don't Extradite Assange
[05:53]	TR Bot	 Hacking Justice: Julian Assange film screening and panel discussion - Don't Extradite Assange
[05:55]	TR News	"great grief for the planet" https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/10/10/william-shatner-space-flight-grief/ | Source: The Washington Post
[05:55]	TR Bot	 William Shatner says space trip filled him with sadness, climate anxiety - The Washington Post
[05:56]	TR News	"I want to start out by saying that I am not a neutral party here." https://xeiaso.net/blog/cryptocurrency-ownership | Source: Xe's Blog
[05:56]	TR Bot	 Bitcoin and economic nihilism - Xe
[05:57]	TR News	Everything should be open, she says, if people believe in the digital economy and society." https://www.biometricupdate.com/202210/is-open-source-the-common-denominator-in-eus-digital-id-wallet-debate | Source: Biometric Update
[05:57]	TR Bot	 Is open source the common denominator in EUs digital ID wallet debate? | Biometric Update
[05:58]	TR News	"Taiwan is the Mount Olympus of silicon chips." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/08/books/review/chip-war-chris-miller.html | Source: New York Times
[05:58]	TR Bot	 Book Review: Chip War by Chris Miller - The New York Times
[05:58]	TR News	[Old] "And I think were just at the early stages of this tool. Very early stages." https://singjupost.com/steve-jobs-lost-interview-1990-full-transcript/ |
[05:58]	TR Bot	reply from server ( status 0 @ https://singjupost.com/steve-jobs-lost-interview-1990-full-transcript/ )
[05:59]	TR News	"First, an AirTag uses a battery that is too small to be considered an issue under the guidelines." https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/lufthansa-bans-apple-airtags-says-danger-to-flight/94762977 | Source: India Times
[05:59]	TR Bot	 lufthansa: Lufthansa bans Apple AirTags, says 'danger to flight', CIO News, ET CIO
[05:59]	TR News	"It's a troubling vulnerability considering the volume of short-form videos flooding every major platform" https://www.cnet.com/news/misinformation/tiktok-is-a-misinformation-minefield-dont-get-tripped-up/ | Source: CNET
[05:59]	TR Bot	Is a Misinformation Minefield. Don't Get Tripped Up - CNET
[05:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 49.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 128.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 86.98
[05:59]	TR News	"Efforts to police misinformation are prone to significant error and overreach." https://reason.com/2022/10/10/paypal-misinformation-fine-hate-censorship/ | Source: Reason
[05:59]	TR Bot	 PayPal Says It Won't Fine Users for Misinformation But Will Fine Them for 'Intolerance'
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[06:00]	TR News	"PayPal said Monday it has no plans to fine customers for using its service to spread misinformation, adding that an earlier policy update outlining a plan to fine users $2,500 for such an act was issued in error" https://www.cnet.com/news/social-media/paypal-says-misinformation-fine-policy-update-sent-in-error/ | Source: CNET
[06:00]	TR Bot	Says Misinformation Fine Policy Update Sent in Error - CNET
[06:00]	TR News	"A private company now gets to decide to take your money if you say something they disagree with." https://www.axios.com/2022/10/09/paypal-misinformation-fines | Source: Axios
[06:00]	TR Bot	 PayPal wont fine users for misinformation posts, policy posted in error
[06:00]	TR News	"hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory." https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/paypal-says-misinformation-2500-fine-policy-was-an-error/436927 | Source: Entrepeneur
[06:00]	TR Bot	 PayPal Says Misinformation $2,500 Fine Policy Was An 'Error'
[06:01]	TR News	"But it appears that the policy continues to be in effect for other speech, according to PayPal's official Acceptable Use Policy" https://reason.com/volokh/2022/10/09/paypal-still-threatens-2500-fines-for-promoting-discriminatory-intolerance-even-if-not-misinformation/ | Source: Reason
[06:01]	TR Bot	 PayPal Still Threatens $2500 Fines for Promoting "Discriminatory" "Intolerance" (Even if Not "Misinformation")
[06:01]	TR News	BBC has been the source of a LOT of disinformation on COVID-19, intentionally lying for political and commercial reasons
[06:02]	TR News	"I can tell by the fact that you're still talking when nobody wants you to that you voted for Trump" https://ew.com/celebrity/ariel-elias-comedian-beer-maga-heckler/ |
[06:02]	TR Bot	applaud Ariel Elias's expert handling of a MAGA heckler | EW.com
[06:02]	TR News	"Iranian security forces shot at protesters" https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/10/iranian-human-rights-group-iranian-forces-open-fire-on-mahsa-amini-protesters/ | Source: JURIST
[06:02]	TR Bot	 Iranian human rights group: Iranian forces open fire on Mahsa Amini protesters - JURIST - News
[06:02]	TR News	"journalism professors at Northwestern University reportedly praised a promising student Monday for his proficiency" https://www.theonion.com/promising-journalism-student-already-self-censoring-to-1849598193 |
[06:02]	TR Bot	 Promising Journalism Student Already Self-Censoring To Parrot Corporate Talking Points
[06:02]	TR News	"violence and anti-social behavior" https://screenrant.com/mad-max-1979-banned-new-zealand-real-tragedy-explained/ | Source: Screen Rant
[06:02]	TR Bot	 The Tragic Reason Mad Max Was Banned In New Zealand
[06:03]	TR News	"increasingly putting human rights defenders behind bars under fabricated charges" https://www.omct.org/en/resources/news-releases/censorship-by-detention-new-campaign-spotlights-the-imprisonment-of-human-rights-defenders |
[06:03]	TR Bot	 Censorship by detention: New campaign spotlights the | OMCT
[06:04]	TR News	"Consider that with all of the disasters going on in the world, these three things came up on my phone. [...]" https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/10/journalism-is-dead-now-its-just-some-idiot-on-tiktok-says-this-or-a-bill-gates-puff-piece/ | Source: DaemonFC (Ryan Farmer)
[06:04]	TR Bot	 Journalism is dead. Now its just some idiot on TikTok says this or a Bill Gates puff piece. | BaronHK's Rants
[06:04]	TR News	"News of the Covid infection emerged over the weekend, as thousands of people staged demonstrations in London" https://www.northwalespioneer.co.uk/news/national/23035481.julian-assange-tests-positive-covid/ | Source: North Wales Pioneer
[06:04]	TR Bot	 Julian Assange tests positive for Covid | North Wales Pioneer
[06:05]	TR News	"He should be released on bail immediately, so that he can access the health care which he urgently requires" https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/10/10/picp-o10.html | Source: WSWS
[06:05]	TR Bot	 Julian Assange tests positive for COVID-19 - World Socialist Web Site
[06:05]	TR News	"Thousands of people formed a human chain around the U.K. parliament in London on Saturday to demand Assange's release from London's Belmarsh prison." https://www.cbsnews.com/news/julian-assange-covid-wikileaks-founder-uk-prison-wife-says/ | Source: CBS
[06:05]	TR Bot	 Julian Assange, WikiLeaks founder, has COVID in U.K. prison, wife says - CBS News
[06:06]	TR News	"Stella Assange, who is married to the Australian-born activist, said the British government should speak to authorities in the United States to end the extradition bid which was launched in 2019." https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/assange-supporters-form-human-chain-uk-parliament-2022-10-08/ | Source: Reuters
[06:06]	TR Bot	supporters form human chain at UK parliament | Reuters
[06:06]	TR News	"Christopher W. is one of the suspects in the 26Hendon investigation into the people who orchestrated De Vriess murder" https://nltimes.nl/2022/10/10/de-vries-murdered-putting-nose-doesnt-belong-suspect-tapped-call | Source: NL Times
[06:06]	TR Bot	 De Vries murdered for "putting his nose where it doesn't belong": suspect in tapped call | NL Times
[06:07]	TR News	"Project Alpha is a police project targeting serous gang violence inspired by social media." https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/young-people-are-being-criminalised-for-content/ | Source: OpenRightsGroup
[06:07]	TR Bot	 Young people are being criminalised for content | Open Rights Group
[06:07]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: The South China Morning Post is engaging in Millennial Bashing now. I've noticed that young Chinese people have a lot of the same problems I'm experiencing here. The smart ones in their parents' generation managed to hoard money and now the younger folks deal with high unemployment and rising living expenses and some assholes running the place that don't give a fuck about them.
[06:08]	schestowitz[TR]	The South China Morning is controlled by the COmmunist Parry
[06:08]	schestowitz[TR]	used to be HK and independence
[06:09]	DaemonFC	The Communist Party is still (falsely) gloating about how much it's managed to raise the living standard. They have a polluted stinking country and ghost cities.
[06:09]	schestowitz[TR]	then Jack Ma took over
[06:09]	DaemonFC	There should be young people living there!
[06:09]	schestowitz[TR]	you don't heard much about him anymore
[06:09]	DaemonFC	Real coffee shops, not fake malls and shit.
[06:09]	starstreak	if it werent for communists, minimum wage would probably be $2/hr
[06:09]	starstreak	and kids would be working
[06:10]	DaemonFC	There's another labor movement rising in the US right now, I think.
[06:10]	DaemonFC	Or at least trying to.
[06:10]	schestowitz[TR]	it would be hard if they used/use social control media
[06:10]	schestowitz[TR]	it's a censorship mechanism
[06:11]	DaemonFC	Even if they don't manage to unionize Walmart, it may put upwards pressure on the wages.
[06:11]	schestowitz[TR]	and amss manipulation
[06:11]	schestowitz[TR]	hence the oligarchs also trry to control twitter more directly
[06:11]	schestowitz[TR]	larry ellsion, the terror family of KSA, and fraud musk
[06:11]	DaemonFC	The Workers Rights Amendment may just make it so much easier to organize in Illinois that suddenly all the restaurants and Amazon have them.
[06:11]	DaemonFC	Then once Walmart is boxed in they may feel pressured to increase wages.
[06:12]	DaemonFC	What we've had going on here is the feds have been paralyzed on workers rights for so long, that the states are stepping in, either legislatively or through ballot initiatives.
[06:12]	TR News	"The Ukrainian Energy Ministry has announced that itll pause Ukraines energy exports to the European Union starting on October 11." https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/10/10/ukraine-to-pause-energy-exports-to-eu-due-to-russian-missile-strikes | Source: Meduza
[06:12]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[06:13]	TR News	amazon https://www.axios.com/2022/10/08/amazon-prime-october-walmart-rollbacks-early-sales
[06:13]	TR Bot	 Amazon Prime Day deals, Walmart rollbacks kick off this week
[06:14]	TR News	When Roller Coasters Are Too Intense For iPhones https://odysee.com/@AlphaNerd:8/when-roller-coasters-are-too-intense-for:7
[06:14]	TR Bot	 When Roller Coasters Are Too Intense For iPhones
[06:14]	TR News	iophk: the car crash - iphone article from the other day was probably placed in the media to pre-empt the roller coaster - iphone investigation which was in progress at the time, just a guess
[06:14]	TR News	old: A Brief History of Hackerdom http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/hacker-history/hacker-history.html Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?http%3A//www.catb.org/~esr/writings/hacker-history/hacker-history.html
[06:14]	TR Bot	 A Brief History of Hackerdom
[06:15]	TR News	california https://abcnews.go.com/US/wwii-era-ghost-boat-found-drought-stricken-california/story?id=91300545
[06:15]	TR Bot	 Mystery surrounds WWII-era 'ghost boat' found in drought-stricken California lake - ABC News
[06:15]	TR News	How Youve Been Deceived: The Mechanics of Mass Mind-Control - Modern Diplomacy https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/10/10/how-youve-been-deceived-the-mechanics-of-mass-mind-control/ Source: Modern Diplomacy | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/10/10/how-youve-been-deceived-the-mechanics-of-mass-mind-control/
[06:15]	TR Bot	 How Youve Been Deceived: The Mechanics of Mass Mind-Control - Modern Diplomacy
[06:17]	TR News	"Did you know you can extend the Steam Deck with various plugins?" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/decky-loader-get-easy-steam-deck-plugins-and-make-colours-pop/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[06:17]	TR Bot	Loader, get easy Steam Deck Plugins and make colours POP! | GamingOnLinux
[06:17]	TR News	"A few updates later while in Beta and Valve has put out the first Release Candidate for their completely overhauled Steam Mobile App." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/the-new-steam-mobile-app-is-getting-close-to-release/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[06:17]	TR Bot	new Steam Mobile App is getting close to release | GamingOnLinux
[06:17]	TR News	"GE-Proton (also known as Proton GE) as a community-built version of the Proton compatibility layer to run Windows games" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/ge-proton-7-37-is-out-now-fixing-up-more-games-for-steam-deck-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[06:17]	TR Bot	7-37 is out now fixing up more games for Steam Deck / Linux | GamingOnLinux
[06:18]	TR News	reddit LOL https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/theres-now-a-dedicated-website-for-steam-deck-boot-videos/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[06:18]	TR Bot	now a dedicated website for Steam Deck boot videos | GamingOnLinux
[06:18]	TR News	"Asus recently announced the ExpertCenter PN53 mini PC which features AMD Ryzen processors from the 6000H series." https://linuxgizmos.com/asus-mini-pc-features-ryzen-6000h-series-processors/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
[06:18]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/asus-mini-pc-features-ryzen-6000h-series-processors/ )
[06:18]	TR News	"This tutorial will help you install Eclipse with its visual development tool Window Builder." https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/10/how-to-install-eclipse-with-windowbuilder-on-ubuntu.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
[06:19]	TR Bot	 How To Install Eclipse with WindowBuilder on Ubuntu
[06:20]	TR News	"When we create a new user on a Linux operating system, at that time user creation some set of privileges are granted to each user" https://vitux.com/linux-add-user-to-group/ | Source: Vitux
[06:20]	TR Bot	to Add a User to Group on Linux - VITUX
[06:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[06:20]	TR News	 (NEW): VirtualBox 7.0 Released with DXVK and Secure Boot Support, Full Encryption, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/VirtualBox_7_0_Released_with_DXVK_and_Secure_Boot_Support.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/VirtualBox_7_0_Released_with_DXVK_and_Secure_Boot_Support.gmi 
[06:20]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines VirtualBox 7.0 Released with DXVK and Secure Boot Support, Full Encryption, and More
[06:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	<starstreak> if it werent for communists, minimum wage would probably be $2/hr
[06:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah, right
[06:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	like thered be a min wage
[06:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	everything would be gig economy, theyd just call it "the economy"
[06:23]	TR News	How to make a histogram...in python gemini://gemini.sh0.xyz/log/2022-10-11.gmi
[06:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	youd call up a dispatcher and theyd tell you theres no work, call tomorrow
[06:23]	schestowitz	serfeconomy
[06:23]	schestowitz	give this man a FAKE "nobel" prize for "Economics"
[06:24]	TR News	 (NEW): DRM Games: Decky Loader, Steam, GE-Proton http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/DRM_Games_Decky_Loader_Steam_GE_Proton.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/DRM_Games_Decky_Loader_Steam_GE_Proton.gmi 
[06:24]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines DRM Games: Decky Loader, Steam, GE-Proton
[06:29]	TR News	How Social Control Media Blocked, Suppressed, and Defamed Medical Journals That Issued Legitimate Warnings https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/10/social-control-media-vs-medical-journals/
[06:29]	TR Bot	Blog Archive How Social Control Media Blocked, Suppressed, and Defamed Medical Journals That Issued Legitimate Warnings
[06:30]	TR News	OSI needs a rebrand to better identify what it is and who it really works for http://techrights.org/2022/10/10/the-new-osi/
[06:30]	TR Bot	 [Meme] The MICROSOFT Initiative (OSI) | Techrights
[06:30]	TR News	Red Hat seems to be crumbling; not only has it lost the community, it also lost a lot of important engineers (the layoffs aside) and countless managers, even high-level executives, who quietly left http://techrights.org/2022/10/10/ibm-attacking-the-community/
[06:30]	TR Bot	 The Exodus Continues: Its Already Hard Keeping Track of So Many Managers and Executives Who Left Red Hat Under IBMs Leadership (in Attacking the Community) | Techrights
[06:31]	TR News	 (NEW): Easiest Way to Open Files as Root in GNOME Files http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Easiest_Way_to_Open_Files_as_Root_in_GNOME_Files.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Easiest_Way_to_Open_Files_as_Root_in_GNOME_Files.gmi 
[06:31]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Easiest Way to Open Files as Root in GNOME Files
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[06:42]	TR News	IBM Does Not Like Open Source? OpenSource.com Has Moved From 2-3 Posts Per Day to 1 Per Day | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/11/microsoft-sponsored-placements/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/11/microsoft-sponsored-placements/
[06:42]	TR Bot	 IBM Does Not Like Open Source? OpenSource.com Has Moved From 2-3 Posts Per Day to 1 Per Day | Techrights
[06:46]	TR News	Stop calling people "Election Deniers"; you're comparing (stigmatising) people who reject proprietary and back-doored voting machines to nazis https://truthout.org/articles/election-deniers-may-have-paved-the-way-for-future-gop-success-in-wisconsin/ | Source: TruthOut
[06:46]	TR Bot	 Election Deniers May Have Paved the Way for Future GOP Success in Wisconsin
[06:48]	TR News	"Betsy Gomez is coordinator for the national Banned Books Week Coalition." https://www.projectcensored.org/the-importance-of-academic-freedom-in-a-cancel-culture-obsessed-with-curtailing-curricula-and-banning-books/ | Source: Project Censored
[06:48]	TR Bot	reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/the-importance-of-academic-freedom-in-a-cancel-culture-obsessed-with-curtailing-curricula-and-banning-books/ )
[06:48]	TR News	"The Motion Picture Association (MPA) has sent its latest overview of notorious piracy markets to the US Government." https://torrentfreak.com/hollywood-and-netflix-report-top-piracy-threats-to-us-govt-221010/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[06:48]	TR Bot	and Netflix Report Top Piracy Threats to US Govt * TorrentFreak
[06:49]	TR News	"Italian authorities have announced an operation to disrupt mass piracy on Telegram." https://torrentfreak.com/telegram-piracy-police-target-545-channels-eight-suspected-admins-221010/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[06:49]	TR Bot	Piracy: Police Target 545 Channels & Eight Suspected Admins * TorrentFreak
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[06:55]	TR News	Arduino https://hackaday.com/2022/10/10/simple-cnc-gear-production-with-arduino/ | Source: Hackaday
[06:55]	TR Bot	CNC Gear Production With Arduino | Hackaday
[06:56]	TR News	Can the US Labor Movement Rise Again? https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/10/can-us-labor-movement-rise-again | Source: Common Dreams
[06:56]	TR Bot	 Opinion | Can the US Labor Movement Rise Again? | Sarah Jaffe
[06:58]	TR News	Today OSI celebrates colonisation by Microsoft, sponsored by Microsoft. Seems apt a day after Columbus Day.
[06:58]	TR News	"The retail margin for motor vehicles sold at dealerships has increased by more than 180% since February 2020." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/10/top-fed-official-says-corporate-price-hikes-are-fueling-inflation | Source: Common Dreams
[06:58]	TR Bot	 Top Fed Official Says Corporate Price Hikes Are Fueling Inflation
[06:59]	TR News	"Good News About the Economy" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/10/good-news-about-economy-media-isnt-reporting | Source: Common Dreams
[06:59]	TR Bot	 Opinion | The Good News About the Economy the Media Isn't Reporting On | Dean Baker
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[07:01]	TR News	Puppets and the Puppet Masters https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/10/puppets-and-puppet-masters | Source: Common Dreams
[07:01]	TR Bot	 Opinion | The Puppets and the Puppet Masters | Chris Hedges
[07:01]	TR News	"Saturdays Hands Around Parliament event for Assange was massively uplifting. We hoped for 5,000 and feared we would fall short and fail to link the chain due to transport strikes" https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/10/the-spontaneous-expression-of-joyous-defiance/ | Source: Craig Murray
[07:01]	TR Bot	 The Spontaneous Expression of Joyous Defiance - Craig Murray
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[07:02]	TR News	Noam Chomsky & Vijay Prashad https://www.democracynow.org/2022/10/10/noam_chomsky_vijay_prashad_china_ukraine | Source: Democracy Now
[07:02]	TR Bot	 Noam Chomsky & Vijay Prashad: U.S. Must Stop Undermining Negotiations with Russia to End Ukraine War | Democracy Now!
[07:04]	TR News	Christopher Columbus' real legacy https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/10/kevin-cooper-the-truth/ | Source: Scheerpost
[07:04]	TR Bot	Cooper: The Truth - scheerpost.com
[07:04]	TR News	"CANCEL COLUMBUS!" https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/10/rewind-benjamin-madley-cancel-columbus/ | Source: Scheerpost
[07:04]	TR Bot	Indigenous Peoples Day: CANCEL COLUMBUS! - scheerpost.com
[07:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	"why does donald trumps apartment look like liberace married a turkmenistani dictator and moved into a cheesecake factory?"-- natalie wynn
[07:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[08:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[08:22]	TR News	chrome or firefox a must in Debian? http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-101022.html#tOct%2010%2020:07:57
[08:22]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 10, 2022
[08:23]	TR News	IRC Proceedings: Monday, October 10, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/11/irc-log-101022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/11/irc-log-101022/
[08:23]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Monday, October 10, 2022 | Techrights
[08:25]	TR News	sanders https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/10/sanders-says-dems-ignoring-economy-midterms-would-be-political-malpractice | Source: Common Dreams
[08:25]	TR Bot	 Sanders Says Dems Ignoring Economy Before Midterms 'Would Be Political Malpractice'
[08:26]	TR News	unions https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/10/huge-deal-major-rail-union-rejects-white-house-brokered-contract-proposal | Source: Common Dreams
[08:26]	TR Bot	 'A Huge Deal': Major Rail Union Rejects White House-Brokered Contract Proposal
[08:27]	TR News	 (NEW): New Ubuntu Linux Kernel Security Updates Fix 16 Vulnerabilities, Patch Now http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/New_Ubuntu_Linux_Kernel_Security_Updates_Fix_16_Vulnerabilities.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/New_Ubuntu_Linux_Kernel_Security_Updates_Fix_16_Vulnerabilities.gmi 
[08:27]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines New Ubuntu Linux Kernel Security Updates Fix 16 Vulnerabilities, Patch Now
[08:29]	TR News	 (NEW): WOW! Thunar File Manager Just Got an Awesome Feature: Image Preview! http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/WOW_Thunar_File_Manager_Just_Got_an_Awesome_Feature_Image_Previ.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/WOW_Thunar_File_Manager_Just_Got_an_Awesome_Feature_Image_Previ.gmi 
[08:29]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines WOW! Thunar File Manager Just Got an Awesome Feature: Image Preview!
[08:30]	TR News	"When it comes to understanding the nature of money, times of political tranquility can prove deceptive" https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/stefan-eich-interview/ | Source: The Nation
[08:30]	TR Bot	 Cash Is Never Neutral: A Conversation on the Politics of Money | The Nation
[08:41]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: More Microsoft propaganda on Reddit. This time in "dataisbeautiful" about how much money they allegedly make.
[08:42]	DaemonFC	It amazes me they even exist. Their products are downright stodgy. Opera had the "Multiple Document Interface" in their browser in the 1990s.
[08:42]	schestowitz[TR]	reddit ia paif by Microsoft and Gates for propaganda
[08:42]	DaemonFC	I tried it out and started using it a lot because I thought it was really neat.
[08:42]	DaemonFC	All those pages in one browser instance. Saved a ton of RAM.
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: I don't think I ever paid Microsoft, except maybe some laptop dad bought in the 90s
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR]	with Windows licence
[08:43]	DaemonFC	Microsoft said you didn't need tabbed browsing because eventually Windows Explorer would group all of the IE windows.
[08:43]	schestowitz[TR]	budget laptop, 32mb of ram
[08:43]	DaemonFC	Missing the point entirely, of course.
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR]	Opera is said to have invented tabs
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR]	but...
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR]	correct me if I'm wrong
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR]	(same for 'speed dial' btw)
[08:44]	DaemonFC	Users wanted their browser to have everything right in front of them without having to go poling around the desktop shell looking for things.
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR]	there was a lot of prior art
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR]	also, bookmarks on the sidebars are almost like tab
[08:44]	DaemonFC	Yeah, tabs goes back to 1982 in various other sorts of applications.
[08:44]	schestowitz[TR]	excepot they don't awaste a TON of RAM
[08:45]	DaemonFC	Firefox wastes a lot of memory.
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	it does not
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	it did not before
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	like 17 years ago
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	*it does now
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	not before
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	also, check how many files it opens on your syetem
[08:45]	DaemonFC	Moving back to a single process browser, I see now why multiple-process browsing really sucks.
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	then compare it to netsurf
[08:45]	schestowitz[TR]	firefox is like 100 times more files
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	when I was a kid the nokia phones didn't need recharging much
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	sure, the phones and batteries were bigger too
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	but it's practical to have cellphones that last long
[08:46]	schestowitz[TR]	and also don't vomit out too much data
[08:47]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: someone sggested I do a video about debian 'demanding' firefox and/or chromium
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	can you remind me what programs need in those two?
[08:48]	schestowitz[TR]	also, is there a simialr dep on libreoffice?
[08:51]	TR News	Eternally in Repose gemini://thurk.org/blog/581.gmi
[08:51]	TR News	Alden Capital https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/alden-capital-craven-vultures-endorsements/ | Source: The Nation
[08:51]	TR Bot	 The Vultures at Alden Capital Want Us to Believe Their Neutrality Is in Good Faith | The Nation
[08:54]	TR News	3D printing https://hackaday.com/2022/10/10/power-loss-recovery-might-make-3d-printed-blobs/ | Source: Hackaday
[08:54]	TR Bot	Loss Recovery Might Make 3D-Printed Blobs | Hackaday
[08:57]	TR News	"[Pekka Vnnen] has a Panasonic TV with a broken backlight that creates an uneven pink/green color." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/10/compensating-for-your-tvs-backlight/ | Source: Hackaday
[08:57]	TR Bot	For Your TVs Backlight | Hackaday
[08:57]	TR News	"When it comes to designing your circuit around a LiIon battery..." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/10/lithium-ion-battery-circuitry-is-simple/ | Source: Hackaday
[08:57]	TR Bot	Battery Circuitry Is Simple | Hackaday
[08:58]	TR News	OpenSource.com is now running Microsoft propaganda, just like OpenSource.org (OSI) does; but its also rather revealing that after years of publishing 2 stories per day the site has cut down to one per day http://techrights.org/2022/10/11/microsoft-sponsored-placements/
[08:58]	TR Bot	 IBM Does Not Like Open Source? OpenSource.com Has Moved From 2-3 Posts Per Day to 1 Per Day | Techrights
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[09:00]	TR News	linuxhint now posting microsoft crap again, shilling github, which is proprietary software that harms GNU/Linux. The name on the article is.... new. Maybe rogues taking over?
[09:01]	TR News	And this person, when writing about Git, assumes you use WINDOWS!!! in a site called LINUXhint https://linuxhint.com/apply-stashes-in-git/
[09:01]	TR Bot	 How to Apply Stashes in Git
[09:01]	TR News	Part of an ongoing problem: http://techrights.org/2022/07/17/linuxhint-losing-direction/
[09:01]	TR Bot	 LinuxHint (LinuxHint.com) is Not About Linux Anymore | Techrights
[09:02]	TR News	Microsoft tries to copy UNIX, does it poorly https://www.maketecheasier.com/create-symbolic-links-windows10/
[09:02]	TR Bot	 How to Create Symbolic Links (Symlink) in Windows - Make Tech Easier
[09:03]	TR News	Guia de INSTALAO Void Linux + XFCE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJLwYqV0DVk
[09:03]	TR Bot	https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=TJLwYqV0DVk
[09:03]	TR Bot	inv.riverside.rocks | Guia de INSTALAO Void Linux + XFCE - Invidious
[09:08]	DaemonFC	brb
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[09:13]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/today_s_howtos.gmi 
[09:13]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
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[09:18]	TR News	When Roller Coasters Are Too Intense For iPhones - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DLCDhj6GccY | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/DLCDhj6GccY
[09:18]	TR Bot	 When Roller Coasters Are Too Intense For iPhones - Invidious
[09:19]	TR News	VirtualBox 7.0.0 https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Changelog-7.0#v00
[09:19]	TR Bot	 Changelog-7.0 Oracle VM VirtualBox
[09:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[09:20]	TR News	"If youre a contributor to Fedora, you may have already worked with Justin on a variety of teams and projects." https://fedoramagazine.org/welcome-to-our-new-fedora-community-action-and-impact-coordinator/ Justin was pissed off by IBM's racism and does not seem involved much anymore in Fedora: http://techrights.org/2021/08/20/we-build-fedora-and-then-ibm-blacklists-us/
[09:20]	TR Bot	 Welcome to our new Fedora Community Action and Impact Coordinator - Fedora Magazine
[09:21]	TR Bot	 Imperialistic Blacklist Machines: Racist IBM and Red Hat Just Like Donald Trump Have Turned Fedora Into an Utterly Racist Project That Blacklists, Shuns and Permanently Bans People Based on Their Nationality Alone | Techrights
[09:22]	TR News	Best Firefox Add-ons to Improve Productivity in Linux https://www.tecmint.com/firefox-add-ons-productivity/ Source: TecMint | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tecmint.com/firefox-add-ons-productivity/
[09:22]	TR Bot	 Best Firefox Add-ons to Improve Productivity in Linux
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[09:24]	TR News	 (NEW): Firefox in GNU/Linux, Firefox Nightly, and Neglect http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Firefox_in_GNU_Linux_Firefox_Nightly_and_Neglect.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Firefox_in_GNU_Linux_Firefox_Nightly_and_Neglect.gmi 
[09:24]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Firefox in GNU/Linux, Firefox Nightly, and Neglect
[09:24]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: laptop issues again?
[09:24]	schestowitz[TR]	\blame "linux"
[09:25]	TR News	Greeenwashing by patent troll https://itwire.com/climate/csiro-to-aid-regions,-sectors-that-find-it-tough-to-cut-emissions.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/CSIRO
[09:25]	TR Bot	- CSIRO to aid regions, sectors that find it tough to cut emissions
[09:25]	TR Bot	 CSIRO - Techrights
[09:26]	DaemonFC	No, this vile chat client I'm trying. :P
[09:26]	TR News	This helps explain why GNU/Linux grows on laptops and desktops https://itwire.com/hardware-and-storage/global-pc-shipments-take-a-big-hit-during-third-quarter.html
[09:26]	TR Bot	- Global PC shipments take a big hit during third quarter
[09:26]	DaemonFC	A fork of ChatZilla.
[09:27]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]DaemonFC: someone sggested I do a video about debian 'demanding' firefox and/or chromium
[09:27]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]can you remind me what programs need in those two?
[09:27]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]also, is there a simialr dep on libreoffice?
[09:27]	DaemonFC	I recall it wanting LibreOffice to be there or it would remove gnome-desktop.
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[09:28]	DaemonFC	I have no idea why you would have a hard depends on Firefox or Chromium to provide x-www-browser.
[09:28]	TR News	Class::Plain supports Role using Role::Tiny http://blogs.perl.org/users/yuki_kimoto/2022/10/classplain-supports-role-using-roletiny.html
[09:28]	TR Bot	supports Role using Role::Tiny | Yuki Kimoto Perl Blog - Perl Club [blogs.perl.org]
[09:29]	schestowitz[TR]	what does  x-www-browser do/is used for?
[09:29]	DaemonFC	You could at least ask the user if they want to bring in "epiphany-browser".
[09:29]	schestowitz[TR]	and by what other software?
[09:29]	schestowitz[TR]	xml libs?
[09:29]	DaemonFC	It's part of the alternatives system.
[09:29]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe gnome-desktop uses something in libo
[09:29]	schestowitz[TR]	like fonts or whatnot..
[09:30]	schestowitz[TR]	i can understand why zapping gtk would zap gnome-desktop
[09:30]	schestowitz[TR]	but libo is not a toolkit
[09:30]	schestowitz[TR]	firefox is a browser
[09:30]	DaemonFC	Like, if something calls a Web browser without looking to see what GNOME has as the default or what the default is with xdg-open.
[09:30]	schestowitz[TR]	not every computer needs "the web"
[09:30]	DaemonFC	It's this really stupid Debian thing.
[09:31]	DaemonFC	https://wiki.debian.org/DebianAlternatives
[09:31]	TR Bot	 DebianAlternatives - Debian Wiki
[09:31]	schestowitz[TR]	i see
[09:31]	schestowitz[TR]	well, it'll bite debian
[09:31]	schestowitz[TR]	alpine works well
[09:32]	schestowitz[TR]	and isn't so dep-heavy
[09:32]	schestowitz[TR]	it gets the jobs done
[09:32]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: I hate "alternatives".
[09:32]	schestowitz[TR]	tuxmachines had zero downtime since the new one started
[09:32]	DaemonFC	It clashes badly with xdg-open.
[09:32]	DaemonFC	You never know what you'll get.
[09:32]	DaemonFC	Fedora doesn't have it.
[09:32]	schestowitz[TR]	fedora is no debian
[09:32]	schestowitz[TR]	there is no LTS
[09:33]	schestowitz[TR]	fedora has its own perils
[09:33]	schestowitz[TR]	it's almost like a rolling distro
[09:33]	DaemonFC	There is an LTS.
[09:33]	DaemonFC	RHEL+clones.
[09:33]	DaemonFC	Okay, I think I have "Ambassador" sorted out.
[09:34]	DaemonFC	It's a ChatZilla fork that runs as a XUL add-on for Pale Moon.
[09:34]	TR News	How I Started Programming, and How You Can Too | TheEvilSkeleton https://theevilskeleton.gitlab.io/2022/10/10/how-I-started-programming-and-how-you-can-too.html Source: Hari Rana | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//theevilskeleton.gitlab.io/2022/10/10/how-I-started-programming-and-how-you-can-too.html
[09:34]	TR Bot	 How I Started Programming, and How You Can Too | TheEvilSkeleton
[09:34]	DaemonFC	So you can still run it in the Goanna engine.
[09:34]	schestowitz[TR]	irc alient?
[09:34]	schestowitz[TR]	"Ambassador"?
[09:34]	schestowitz[TR]	i thought you means fedora "Ambassador" at first
[09:34]	schestowitz[TR]	starstreak was one
[09:35]	schestowitz[TR]	IBM is gradually trashing everything "community"
[09:35]	schestowitz[TR]	ICBM is also a big "MAGA contractor"
[09:36]	schestowitz[TR]	and MAGA will be back... Dems pretend "pandemic is over" and "Economy is fine"... perfect storm for another coup attempt... but that's politics
[09:36]	schestowitz[TR]	I tried Fedora ages ago
[09:36]	schestowitz[TR]	fedora 14
[09:36]	schestowitz[TR]	that was the last time
[09:36]	schestowitz[TR]	I spent a lot of time trying to install basic packages
[09:36]	DaemonFC	Hey, Pale Moon has Searx.be as an available add-on.
[09:36]	schestowitz[TR]	the quality of the packages was not good
[09:36]	schestowitz[TR]	and it slowed me down at work
[09:36]	schestowitz[TR]	iirc, i needed gnuplot in octave
[09:36]	DaemonFC	Fedora has improved greatly.
[09:36]	schestowitz[TR]	but even that would not work properly
[09:36]	schestowitz[TR]	resulting in crashes
[09:37]	DaemonFC	Especially the process to upgrade to a new release.
[09:41]	DaemonFC	Almost everything but Google is blocking Searx.be
[09:46]	schestowitz[TR]	blocking in what sense?
[09:46]	schestowitz[TR]	I use it OK
[09:47]	TR News	New strategy trafficking proprietary software to kids https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-educational-licenses-for-students-and-teachers
[09:47]	TR Bot	 Qt Educational Licenses For Students and Teachers
[09:49]	TR News	Installing Tailscale to the Raspberry Pi - Pi My Life Up https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-tailscale/ Source: pimylifeup | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-tailscale/
[09:49]	TR Bot	 Installing Tailscale to the Raspberry Pi - Pi My Life Up
[09:52]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]"Ambassador"?
[09:52]	TR News	"Quasiwalk is a tree-map that respects quote, quasiquote, and unquote. Its for metaprogramming." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/quasiwalk
[09:52]	DaemonFC	ChatZilla in SeaMonkey is getting most of its IRCv3 patches from Ambassador.
[09:52]	DaemonFC	So they're almost the same program.
[09:53]	DaemonFC	But I had some problems with it caused by Pale Moon.
[09:53]	TR News	 (NEW): Report on the GNU Hackers' Meeting 2022 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Report_on_the_GNU_Hackers_Meeting_2022.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Report_on_the_GNU_Hackers_Meeting_2022.gmi 
[09:53]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Report on the GNU Hackers' Meeting 2022
[09:53]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]blocking in what sense?
[09:53]	DaemonFC	timeouts
[09:53]	DaemonFC	DuckDuckGo is blocking searx.be
[09:54]	schestowitz[TR]	Microsoft
[09:55]	MinceR	11 040617 < highest_cubist_thrills> by the same logic that mjg is not a security expert (which may be true, but i take issue with the assumption)
[09:55]	MinceR	someone who shills MICROS~1 snake oil all day, every day seriously sucks at being a "security expert"
[09:55]	MinceR	and this has nothing to do with credentials
[09:58]	TR News	 (NEW): MiTubo 1.4 adds feed folders http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/MiTubo_1_4_adds_feed_folders.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/MiTubo_1_4_adds_feed_folders.gmi 
[09:58]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines MiTubo 1.4 adds feed folders
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[10:02]	DaemonFC	https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86
[10:02]	TR Bot	Moon Official Branding Violation Issue #86 jasperla/openbsd-wip GitHub
[10:02]	DaemonFC	LOL
[10:03]	psydruid	his security knowledge of self-crashing cars and Microsoft malware makes him the peefect Auroraphile and Micronecrophile
[10:04]	MinceR	failmoon
[10:06]	schestowitz[TR]	fail-mono
[10:06]	TR News	 (NEW): Is open source the common denominator in EUs digital ID wallet debate? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Is_open_source_the_common_denominator_in_EU_s_digital_ID_wallet.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Is_open_source_the_common_denominator_in_EU_s_digital_ID_wallet.gmi 
[10:06]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Is open source the common denominator in EUs digital ID wallet debate?
[10:06]	TR News	 (NEW): Facebook's Surveillance Openwashing and OSI Promoting Microsoft's Proprietary Traps http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Facebook_s_Surveillance_Openwashing_and_OSI_Promoting_Microsoft.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Facebook_s_Surveillance_Openwashing_and_OSI_Promoting_Microsoft.gmi 
[10:06]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Facebook's Surveillance Openwashing and OSI Promoting Microsoft's Proprietary Traps
[10:07]	MinceR	interesting how projects not coming from mozilla and not derived from mozilla code don't seem to have this idiotic attitude
[10:13]	TR News	 (NEW): Devices/Hardware: Raspberry Pi, Arduino, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Devices_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_Arduino_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Devices_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_Arduino_and_More.gmi 
[10:13]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Devices/Hardware: Raspberry Pi, Arduino, and More
[10:14]	TR News	"Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 756 for the week of October 2 8, 2022." https://ubuntu-news.org/2022/10/10/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-756/
[10:14]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 756
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[10:23]	TR News	 (NEW): CloudNativePG 1.17.1, 1.16.3 and 1.15.5 Released! http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/CloudNativePG_1_17_1_1_16_3_and_1_15_5_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/CloudNativePG_1_17_1_1_16_3_and_1_15_5_Released.gmi 
[10:23]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines CloudNativePG 1.17.1, 1.16.3 and 1.15.5 Released!
[10:23]	TR News	 (NEW): Kubernetes and Red Hat http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Kubernetes_and_Red_Hat.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Kubernetes_and_Red_Hat.gmi 
[10:23]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Kubernetes and Red Hat
[10:27]	TR News	"Stadia is finally dead, Valve has shipped a million Steam Decks, Canonical tries to win back the community, Debian votes for common sense, acres of RISC-V laptops, KDE Korner, and more." https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-198/
[10:27]	TR Bot	 Late Night Linux Episode 198 Late Night Linux
[10:27]	TR News	297: Interviewing Kee Jefferys of Session, Private - Encrypted Messenger - Destination Linux - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/destination-linux/dl-297/ Source: Tux Digital | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//tuxdigital.com/podcasts/destination-linux/dl-297/
[10:27]	TR Bot	Interviewing Kee Jefferys of Session, Private & Encrypted Messenger - Destination Linux - TuxDigital
[10:27]	TR News	 (NEW): Jackson on Skipping Debian Releases and Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Jackson_on_Skipping_Debian_Releases_and_Ubuntu_Weekly_Newslette.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Jackson_on_Skipping_Debian_Releases_and_Ubuntu_Weekly_Newslette.gmi 
[10:27]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Jackson on Skipping Debian Releases and Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter
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[10:34]	TR News	Microsoft's loyal propagandist (and FOSS hater) Sofia Wycilik-Wilson is twisting this as Microsoft/Windows news http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/VirtualBox_7_0_Released_with_DXVK_and_Secure_Boot_Support.shtml
[10:34]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines VirtualBox 7.0 Released with DXVK and Secure Boot Support, Full Encryption, and More
[10:37]	TR News	Mapping the Rising Internet Shutdowns in India Since 2016 https://thewire.in/government/mapping-the-rising-internet-shutdowns-in-india-since-2016
[10:37]	TR Bot	 Mapping the Rising Internet Shutdowns in India Since 2016
[10:39]	TR News	"This removes a.out support globally; it has been disabled for a while now." https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=12ed00ba01abf39e0869c02ccdde5e24a357466b
[10:39]	TR Bot	 kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
[10:41]	TR News	Plagiarism sites have gone so insane that they now go with headlines like (real example): "Best Linux Distros for Windows in 2022"
[10:45]	TR News	 (NEW): An unexpected revival of Firefox OS http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/An_unexpected_revival_of_Firefox_OS.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/An_unexpected_revival_of_Firefox_OS.gmi 
[10:45]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines An unexpected revival of Firefox OS
[10:45]	TR News	 (NEW): Videos/Shows: Nest with Fedora 2022, Late Night Linux, and Destination Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Videos_Shows_Nest_with_Fedora_2022_Late_Night_Linux_and_Destina.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Videos_Shows_Nest_with_Fedora_2022_Late_Night_Linux_and_Destina.gmi 
[10:45]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Videos/Shows: Nest with Fedora 2022, Late Night Linux, and Destination Linux
[10:46]	TR News	There are vastly better ways than this: "Triple Monitor KVM Switcher engineered to allow users to easily share up to three monitor screens with multiple computers. Sporting a slick portable design" https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/595276926/tesmart-launches-all-new-triple-monitor-kvm-switcher
[10:46]	TR Bot	 TESmart Launches All New Triple Monitor KVM Switcher - EIN Presswire
[10:47]	TR News	Groovy vs Java: Connecting a PostgreSQL database with JDBC | https://opensource.com/article/22/10/groovy-vs-java-sql Source: Open Source Initiative | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//opensource.com/article/22/10/groovy-vs-java-sql http://techrights.org/2022/10/11/microsoft-sponsored-placements/
[10:47]	TR Bot	vs Java: Connecting a PostgreSQL database with JDBC | Opensource.com
[10:47]	TR Bot	 IBM Does Not Like Open Source? OpenSource.com Has Moved From 2-3 Posts Per Day to 1 Per Day | Techrights
[10:49]	TR News	"Ombudsman Basilius Dyakugha says hateful names and slurs further contribute to the violation of the right to dignity of the people with albinism. He said this during the launch of the report on issues faced by the people with albinism in Namibia in Ongwediva yesterday." https://neweralive.na/posts/people-with-albinism-have-names-ombudsman
[10:49]	TR Bot	 People with albinism have names - ombudsman - Truth, for its own sake.
[10:51]	TR News	"React Icons is a free source that collect and organize all React icon packages in a simple browsable and searchable directory." https://medevel.com/react-icons/
[10:51]	TR Bot	 Get Thousands of Icons for React Project for Free with React Icons
[10:53]	TR News	Blender: don't use Wayland. We don't support GNU/Linux who use Wayland. Why are the Wayland fanatics being so impractical? Red Hat astroturfing? https://code.blender.org/2022/10/wayland-support-on-linux/
[10:53]	TR Bot	 Wayland Support on Linux Blender Developers Blog
[10:53]	TR News	Breaking "old" things isn't a necessity. It's usually a design choice. In ICBM/Red Hat's case, it's about making more money.
[10:54]	TR News	iTWire - Apple deserves a Nobel prize for stinginess https://itwire.com/open-sauce/apple-deserves-a-nobel-prize-for-stinginess.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/open-sauce/apple-deserves-a-nobel-prize-for-stinginess.html
[10:54]	TR Bot	- Apple deserves a Nobel prize for stinginess
[10:55]	TR News	Sociopaths are attracted to other sociopaths for well understood reasons. That's why Apple and Steve Jobs have clients like these... https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cR1Mq6Po3pA
[10:55]	TR Bot	 SPOILT GIRL SCREAMS AT HER GRANDPA OVER IPHONE APPOINTMENT - Invidious
[10:56]	TR News	"Kali Linux is a specialized Linux distribution developed by Offensive Security, designed for experienced Linux users who need a customized platform for penetration testing." https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/10/11/kali-linux-introduction-video/
[10:56]	TR Bot	 An introduction to Kali Linux - Help Net Security
[10:58]	TR News	ICBM fires hundreds of thousands of its work workers, then moans about "skills shortage," in effect passing the blame to the victims https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/peopleops-key-becoming-more-agile
[10:58]	TR Bot	 What to be more agile? PeopleOps is the key | The Enterprisers Project
[10:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 8.86 k/sec., IPFS upstream 128.93 average k/sec., average swarm size 99.88
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[11:00]	TR News	Microsoft involvement in Kubernetes = NSA malware and mass surveillance, NOT 'Linux' https://redmondmag.com/articles/2022/10/10/azure-kubernetes-service-now-supports-windows-server-2022.aspx see http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_and_the_NSA
[11:00]	TR Bot	Kubernetes Service Now Supports Windows Server 2022 -- Redmondmag.com
[11:00]	TR Bot	 Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights
[11:06]	TR News	Sponsored spam for snakeoil (money down the drain) https://grahamcluley.com/feed-sponsor-kolide-2/
[11:06]	TR Bot	 Kolide gives you real-time fleet visibility across Mac, Windows, and Linux, answering questions MDMs cant Graham Cluley
[11:08]	TR News	 (NEW): Maker Pi Pico Mini adds battery, buzzer, GPIO LEDs to Raspberry Pi Pico (W) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Maker_Pi_Pico_Mini_adds_battery_buzzer_GPIO_LEDs_to_Raspberry_P.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Maker_Pi_Pico_Mini_adds_battery_buzzer_GPIO_LEDs_to_Raspberry_P.gmi 
[11:08]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Maker Pi Pico Mini adds battery, buzzer, GPIO LEDs to Raspberry Pi Pico (W)
[11:10]	TR News	 (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Security_Leftovers.gmi 
[11:10]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
[11:18]	TR News	 (NEW): Computing in Education http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Computing_in_Education.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Computing_in_Education.gmi 
[11:19]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Computing in Education
[11:19]	TR News	 (NEW): Development Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Development_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Development_Leftovers.gmi 
[11:19]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Development Leftovers
[11:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[11:32]	TR News	Links 11/10/2022: VirtualBox 7.0 Released and Half of PCs Cannot Run Vista 11 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/11/virtualbox-7-0-released/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/11/virtualbox-7-0-released/
[11:32]	TR Bot	 Links 11/10/2022: VirtualBox 7.0 Released and Half of PCs Cannot Run Vista 11 | Techrights
[11:33]	TR News	 (NEW): Apple and Microsoft Problems (Proprietary Greed) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Apple_and_Microsoft_Problems_Proprietary_Greed.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Apple_and_Microsoft_Problems_Proprietary_Greed.gmi 
[11:33]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Apple and Microsoft Problems (Proprietary Greed)
[11:33]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/today_s_leftovers.gmi 
[11:33]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[11:34]	TR News	How the repos on this capsule work gemini://idiomdrottning.org/git-faq no outsourcing, no web guis
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[11:45]	TR News	Deleted Firefox from my second machine. Good riddance. If sites reject Falkon, I'll set them to just pretend to be Firefox 120 or something...
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[12:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[13:18]	TR News	You Cannot Remove Google-Controlled Web Browsers From Debian | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/11/debian-considered-gulag/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/11/debian-considered-gulag/
[13:18]	TR Bot	 You Cannot Remove Google-Controlled Web Browsers From Debian | Techrights
[13:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[13:21]	TR News	Tax the rich gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-10-11%20Tax%20the%20rich "And if you're super rich, you just need to stop fucking with the environment. Just stop it."
[13:22]	TR News	"This is why I vote for the melon green party in Switzerland: green on the outside, red on the inside. We need to drastically decrease inequality and save the planet at the same time." gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-10-11%20Tax%20the%20rich
[13:23]	TR News	A kiosk computer running OpenBSD gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/openbsd-kiosk.gmi
[13:26]	TR News	eBPF and the Service Mesh https://www.infoq.com/articles/ebpf-service-mesh/ Source: InfoQ
[13:26]	TR Bot	 eBPF and the Service Mesh
[13:28]	TR News	Under IBM, Red Hat does not only dislike the Free software community but also the Web. The 'Web' sites of Red Hat gradually become more and more proprietary JS, obstructing those who don't play along
[13:30]	TR News	Clown computing https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/living-off-the-cloud-cloudy-with-a-chance-of-exfiltration/
[13:30]	TR Bot	 Living off the Cloud. Cloudy with a Chance of Exfiltration | Pen Test Partners
[13:31]	TR News	Microsoft TCO; the company is not compatible with the notion of security, but it's a "market leader" in NSA back doors. https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/living-off-the-cloud-cloudy-with-a-chance-of-exfiltration/
[13:33]	TR News	ipwatchdog seems like it's dying. Just 2 or 3 comments this week. We remember it being a hub for many people. The editor left years ago, seeing the demise already.
[13:35]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/weekend-random-randomness-7-30-22-23.jpg
[13:47]	MinceR	(cat) https://www.deviantart.com/furlined/art/Huffing-Grass-920555720
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[16:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	<MinceR> someone who shills MICROS~1 snake oil all day, every day seriously sucks at being a "security expert"  <MinceR> and this has nothing to do with credentials
[16:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	and its a better critique
[16:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean if the part about biologist and sec expert being mutually exclusive is a joke so be it
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[16:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	its just that roy seems to say it straight faced every time
[16:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	like you cant be a security expert if you phd is in biology-- and i dont think hes joking, i think he just expects that to pass for logic
[16:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	and since no one (myself included) likes mjg, at least no one here, we are supposed to not care that the argument is silly
[16:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	the reason i care is that roy uses equally silly logic against good and bad people
[16:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	not just against people who most likely deserve it like mjg
[16:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	also roys feud with mjg is largely the two of them playing victim 
[16:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	first mjg stabs the movement in the back (along with thousands of others) and wonders why people are hostile about it
[16:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	then roy snipes at him constantly and expects him not to get defensive
[16:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	if either side of the argument was honest i think it would look different
[16:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	i think itd be more fun that way. also i think its ridiculous because neither of them are interested in staying honest about the other
[16:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	mjgs brand of dishonesty is based on twisting abstractions and overgeneralisations to fit moral crimes even when they dont
[16:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	and if you press him about it in realtime he may back off, or, if you dont trust him he may simple lean on other fabrications (but you cant always prove theyre fabrications even if you have some reason to suspect)
[16:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	hes never (ever) going to recognise the damage his spanish inquisition routine did, and he doesnt care about that
[16:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	hes self-righteous
[16:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	roy is similarly self-righteous and also fabricates things, and i know this for a fact because ive seen him lie about things that 1. i know cannot be true and 2. he cannot know are true
[16:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	roys done less damage, but he pretends hes the antidote when really hes just a much smaller version of the same problem (imo)
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[16:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	he doesnt have the firepower to fight corporate bullshit with nonsense
[16:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	but he can (and does) pretend.
[16:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	it would be more effective if he were honest
[16:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	in the doses hes capable of supplying, truth is stronger medicine. he even uses it as a catalyst to strengthen his nonsense
[16:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	but we can also pretend that everything we dont like is dying. 
[16:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	while ignoring the fact that things we actually care about are dying
[16:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	hes a bit like kryten in the first red dwarf book, serving tea to a dead crew because hes mad
[16:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	and acting like everything is fine (kryten at least, is finally rescued from this. i doubt the same will be said for roy)
[16:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	or not "everything is fine" but still denying the BULK of the problem
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[16:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bNwzfjNkz-0
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[16:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	 but still denying the BULK of the problem <- and mjg becomes the punching bag / scapegoat for all this
[16:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	making him the whipping boy for the entire counterrevolution isnt entirely fair, though... he did feature prominenently even in the PRE-coup (or the actual beginning of the coup) in 2018.
[16:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	and hes been around in various stages of it
[16:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	so if people want to give him more shit than average, ok
[16:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	we wont ever figure out who the leader is
[16:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	either because there isnt one, it was LED by corporations
[16:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	or because there isnt one, they ACTUALLY managed to have a successful coup in a leaderless fashion (possible but SO doubtful)
[16:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	or because they wouldnt want the coup leader to suffer the same fate as stallman (even though they might whether we know who it is or not)
[16:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	(god willing)
[16:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	still, if youre going to hang mjg
[16:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	id rather see it done honestly, not with an endless stream of nonsense from a compulsive liar
[16:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	lies are what made the whole thing so dirty
[16:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	roy gave me shit for "trying to cancel the cancellers"
[16:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	hes the one using their tactics to do it.
[16:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	so yeah, im not going to bless that. joke if you want, but say youre kidding if youre going to bullshit.
[16:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	the distinction really matters here
[16:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	otherwise hes really stooping to their level, while hes blaming ME for doing so.
[16:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	and thats really par for the course imo.
[16:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean thats typical, but it doesnt mean ill stand for it
[16:46]	schestowitz[TR]	<highest_cubist_thrills> roy gave me shit for "trying to cancel the cancellers"
[16:46]	schestowitz[TR]	more details needed
[16:46]	schestowitz[TR]	you are upset at me for the rms thing
[16:46]	schestowitz[TR]	because I made it clear we're two different people
[16:47]	schestowitz[TR]	your articles, which I did not censor, told some gnu people to f* this and that
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[16:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	the cancellers are traitors who destroyed the movement
[16:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	the movement had already weakened itself, with the help of open source
[16:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	open source also dealt the death blow
[16:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	calling the traitors "free software" advocates is cynical
[16:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	they work for open source. open source and the coup are about the same thing
[16:51]	schestowitz[TR]	sfc=ossi 1.1
[16:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	smearing free software and handing control of our computing over to corporations
[16:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	i want nothing to do with the traitors, or any projects they lead
[16:52]	schestowitz[TR]	on this we agree
[16:52]	schestowitz[TR]	did you see the latest on osi?
[16:52]	schestowitz[TR]	and opensource.com (IBM)?
[16:52]	schestowitz[TR]	microsoft is taking over  the domains
[16:52]	schestowitz[TR]	not just the brands
[16:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	 microsoft is taking over  the domains <- ha
[16:52]	schestowitz[TR]	dint' take long
[16:52]	schestowitz[TR]	slush funds
[16:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats funny if its true, and its funny if its not true
[16:53]	schestowitz[TR]	after getting 22,000 million dollars from bailout biden
[16:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	corporate bailouts are what the fake left does best
[16:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	obama practically led to the coining of the term "bailouts" (it was used before but never as often in history imo)
[16:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	obama was the bailout king
[16:54]	schestowitz[TR]	no, he said "STIMULUS"
[16:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	his critics said bailouts
[16:54]	schestowitz[TR]	now bernanke nets a fake award
[16:54]	schestowitz[TR]	for passing all the capital to the people who defrauded us
[16:55]	frog	slightly off-topic, just finished a first cover letter for a job-placement, explaining them the entire technological basis of theirs falls apart like a house of cards
[16:55]	schestowitz[TR]	so for another 15 years they can plunder some more
[16:55]	schestowitz[TR]	and still lead to a depression
[16:55]	schestowitz[TR]	deeper than before
[16:55]	frog	as soon as my minimum acceptance criteria are applied to their software
[16:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	"im the head of STATE! youre like a head of cabbage-- bout to get SMACKED! by my STIIIIIMULOUS PACKAGE!"-- obama vs mitt romney, erb
[16:56]	frog	they're doing some software for Amazon market-space, and to keep it simple i explained i couldn't at least navigate amazon web site anymore with web-browsers which could pass acceptance criteria
[16:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	lincoln crashes the party and says the president shall not be the shiniest of two turds
[16:56]	frog	although those web-browsers implement relevant w3c standards, there isn't amazon services available with them anymore
[16:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	but of course hes dead, and yes he shall
[16:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	but of course hes dead <- ive read a webcomic where his lincolns ghost wears a lincoln suit and people who dont know better think hes alive (but he mostly keeps to himself for obvious reasons)
[16:59]	TR News	[Meme] EPOs Administrative Council Will Congratulate a President Who Bribes the Administrative Council, Breaks the Law, and Curses at Staff Whilst Illegally Censoring It | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/11/epo-car/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/11/epo-car/
[16:59]	TR Bot	 [Meme] EPOs Administrative Council Will Congratulate a President Who Bribes the Administrative Council, Breaks the Law, and Curses at Staff Whilst Illegally Censoring It | Techrights
[16:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	he occasionally fucks with people by taking the mask off. he doesnt look horrific under it but he still a ghost and thats enough to fuck with people
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[17:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	"did he take his face off again?"
[17:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	http://techrights.org/2022/10/08/aurora-collapses/ <- hahaha
[17:03]	TR Bot	 Matthew Garretts Employer, Aurora, is Nearly Valueless and Looking to be Acquired by Microsoft | Techrights
[17:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	if thats true (im a little bit sceptical because of the "x is dying" trope but this one doesnt tickle my scepticism too much) then mjg is very silly to try to cancel someone who is currently critiquing his employer
[17:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	it makes it LOOK like it has nothing to do with his usual sjw slant 
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[17:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	and everything to do with protecting his employer
[17:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	"Aurora is seeking a takeover from Microsoft or Apple."
[17:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	now if i were roy...
[17:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	i would lean hard on this and try to make mjg into the next stephen elop
[17:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	which FOR THE MOMENT AT LEAST looks like a fair comparison
[17:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	tenuous, but not unfair
[17:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	"we need someone to make the company look bad to devalue it so its easier to buy"
[17:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	"send in garrett, hes radioactive"
[17:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	"and hes a lot cheaper than elop"
[17:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	pure speculation of course
[17:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	but roy LOVES getting letters
[17:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	if he gets enough he will find a way to get them processed into a soft pillow fill that he can cuddle at night
[17:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	of course i dont actually believe that hes single-handedly devalued the company
[17:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	after all, theyre a scam to begin with, right
[17:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	but its a fun angle, as the actress said to the bishop
[17:12]	frog	i am still hesitant to send the email, although it's a good job application of mine
[17:13]	frog	however, whenever i do this, it triggers close to clinical depression, having worked and studied for a decade, and then some HR wipes it in 5minutes
[17:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	"Its a scam, says George Hotz, whose company Comma.ai Inc. makes a driver-assistance system similar to Tesla Inc.s Autopilot. These companies have squandered tens of billions of dollars. "
[17:15]	frog	and something else, i do not want to work with software and hardware products, which don't pass acceptance criteria myself
[17:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats what im referring to with "theyre a scam to begin with, right"
[17:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dunno, id personally classify anyone seeking purchase by microsoft to be a scam, in a very loose sense
[17:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	theres no better way to shit on either your shareholders, your customers/users or potentially both
[17:17]	frog	the technological basis of Tesla software products is problematic, and Tesla autopilot isn't a scam
[17:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	 <highest_cubist_thrills>  microsoft is taking over  the domains <- ha
[17:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	^ good old techrights
[17:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	i went to look for which story would verify the above, and i couldnt even figure it out
[17:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	so even having seen the articles, i still dont know what roy is on about.
[17:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	its just that clear
[17:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont necessarily think its the writing (the articles themselves) to blame here
[17:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	i just think its good hype: "oh, check out a bunch of stories that are sort of about __________"
[17:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	but none of them answer my question, so why did i go there? 
[17:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	GOTCHA! 
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[17:19]	TR Bot	works with NVIDIA and BT to unlock infrastructure scalability for data scientists, technical and creative professionals | Ubuntu
[17:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	its the techrights hype machine
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[17:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	i tend to ignore it mostly now BECAUSE my questions almost never get answered
[17:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	but every once in a while ill play along, generally to this sort of result
[17:20]	TR News	Hey, DT! Would You Use Emacs If There Was No Doom Emacs? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=596bm1hTscs
[17:20]	TR Bot	https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=596bm1hTscs
[17:20]	TR Bot	vid.puffyan.us | Hey, DT! Would You Use Emacs If There Was No Doom Emacs? - Invidious
[17:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	granted the aurora story was interesting enough
[17:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	but i still dislike having my dick pulled this way
[17:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	i still have no idea what microsoft and opensource.com really have to do with each other (other than things that are nothing new)
[17:22]	TR News	Weekly status of Packit Team: October 2022 https://packit.dev/posts/weekly/october-2022/
[17:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	and the articles didnt help 
[17:22]	TR Bot	timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://packit.dev/posts/weekly/october-2022/ )
[17:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	i did eventually find out that yes, lennart went to microsoft
[17:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	but i didnt find that through techrights articles
[17:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	theyre really all fucking teasers at this point
[17:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	plow like stalin, braod and shallow
[17:23]	TR News	Mike Blumenkrantz: New Era https://www.supergoodcode.com/new-era/
[17:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	lennart did WHAT with microsoft? we wont have the details-- film at 11!
[17:23]	TR Bot	 New Era Mike Blumenkrantz Super. Good. Code.
[17:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	people used to complain that they had to click through several articles to find out any detail
[17:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	its gotten worse. when i click through my questions still arent answered
[17:24]	TR News	Gift 'reviews' time https://www.phoronix.com/review/steam-deck-dock/2
[17:24]	TR Bot	Steam Deck Docking Station Hands-On Review - Phoronix
[17:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	i have to go online and look up the answers the articles wont bother telling me
[17:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	sites really becoming a hell of a prick tease
[17:26]	TR News	"Bound into three exquisitely colored volumes, Fungi features hundreds of species, collected across 42 years by a female mycologist named M. F. Lewis." https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/fungi-of-shropshire/
[17:26]	TR Bot	 *Fungi Collected in Shropshire and Other Neighbourhoods* (18601902) The Public Domain Review
[17:27]	schestowitz[TR]	<highest_cubist_thrills> lennart did WHAT with microsoft? we wont have the details-- film at 11!
[17:27]	schestowitz[TR]	Vista 11
[17:27]	schestowitz[TR]	notice he never said he had moved there
[17:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	im just going to tell you from now on roy, "no i havent heard about that, because i wont fall for your endless stream of teaser articles and you wont tell me what youre talking about anyway"
[17:27]	schestowitz[TR]	he did it quietly
[17:27]	schestowitz[TR]	which only further suspicions about motive
[17:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah but at least it was true
[17:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean, you did say he was microsoft, and that wasnt a lie
[17:28]	TR News	Conntrack-tools version 1.4.7 (stable) released on 6 October 2022 http://conntrack-tools.netfilter.org/ https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Conntrack-tools
[17:28]	TR Bot	 conntrack-tools: Netfilter's connection tracking userspace tools
[17:28]	TR Bot	 Conntrack-tools - Free Software Directory
[17:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	it took a few weeks to find out what you were talking about though
[17:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	and not because no one had mentioned it
[17:29]	TR News	"There exists online, a synthesized version of my own voice, built into mimic3 (licensed under the AGPL v3) by MycroftAI." https://popey.com/blog/2022/10/blog-to-speech-in-my-voice/
[17:29]	TR Bot	 Blog To Speech - In My Voice - Alan Pope's blog
[17:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah, he quietly tiptoed over there
[17:29]	schestowitz[TR]	he took a job at a company he's ashamed to work for?
[17:29]	schestowitz[TR]	or..
[17:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	which is funny because systemd critics always said
[17:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	he took a job at a company he's ashamed to work for? <- people like lennart have zero shame
[17:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	hes a true sociopath
[17:30]	schestowitz[TR]	.maybe somone at icbm told him
[17:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean going from ibm to microsoft is mostly a change of department
[17:30]	schestowitz[TR]	"mate, want to work for the son of ibm, where you do not have to justify being a german working  for nazis?"
[17:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	its basically microsoft
[17:30]	schestowitz[TR]	turns out some german colleagues persuaded him to move to mkicrosoft
[17:31]	schestowitz[TR]	based on some tweet, iirc
[17:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	where you do not have to justify being a german working  for nazis <- heh
[17:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	from the nazis to the kkk
[17:31]	schestowitz[TR]	nazik
[17:31]	schestowitz[TR]	"i'm not a nazik"
[17:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	sounds arabic
[17:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	it really does
[17:31]	schestowitz[TR]	razik
[17:31]	XRevan86	https://vectis.com/media/vectis-ip-announces-call-for-patents-essential-to-the-opus-codec
[17:31]	TR Bot	IP Announces Call for Patents Essential to the Opus codec | Vectis - Building IP Solutions for the Future
[17:32]	schestowitz[TR]	"i'm no razik, me justa dick"
[17:32]	TR News	Its virtually impossible to run a Debian desktop without either Firefox or Chromium/Chrome; this should be regarded and treated as a high-priority bug considering how bad Mozilla has become (Firefox is fast becoming little but spyware, guarded by truly untrustworthy people) http://techrights.org/2022/10/11/debian-considered-gulag/
[17:32]	TR Bot	 You Cannot Remove Google-Controlled Web Browsers From Debian | Techrights
[17:33]	TR News	ased on every metric tracked by Netcraft, the Web is going down consistently; this merits discussion or active debate that remaining news sites (fewer of them left, many go offline permanently) barely entertain http://techrights.org/2022/10/11/world-wide-web-is-dying/
[17:33]	TR Bot	 The World Wide Web is a Dying Internet Platform (But Nobody Wants to Admit It Because the Demise is Slow and Gradual) | Techrights
[17:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	 Ali Nazik - Turkish Foodie
[17:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	turkishfoodie.com/ali-nazik/
[17:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	In a bowl, combine yogurt, salt, ground black pepper and olive oil. Add the chopped eggplants and combine the mix very well. This mix (puree) will be the base layer of your Ali Nazik Kebab.
[17:33]	TR News	These new slides on lack of rewards at the EPO shed light on grim internal affairs http://techrights.org/2022/10/11/inclusion-and-diversity-at-the-epo/
[17:33]	TR Bot	 Inclusion and Diversity at the EPO in One Slide (Leaked by Insiders) | Techrights
[17:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	its not just me then
[17:33]	TR News	The Administrative Council will meet later this week; theres almost no expectation that Antnio Campinos will be held accountable for anything http://techrights.org/2022/10/11/epo-car/
[17:33]	TR Bot	 [Meme] EPOs Administrative Council Will Congratulate a President Who Bribes the Administrative Council, Breaks the Law, and Curses at Staff Whilst Illegally Censoring It | Techrights
[17:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazik
[17:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	Nazik may refer to: Given name. Nazik al-Abid (1887-1959), Syrian activist; Nazik Avdalyan Armenian international weightlifter, 2007 European Weightlifting Championships and others; Nazik Cynthia Cozette (Cynthia Cozette Lee) (born 1953), American classical music composer; Nazik Hariri, widow of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri
[17:33]	MinceR	11 180500 < highest_cubist_thrills> if thats true (im a little bit sceptical because of the "x is dying" trope but this one doesnt tickle my scepticism too much) then mjg is very silly to try to cancel someone who is currently critiquing his employer
[17:34]	MinceR	Netcraft confirms NetBSD is dead
[17:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	 Netcraft confirms NetBSD is dead <- im sceptical
[17:34]	TR News	Need Help With Thunderbird? Heres#HowTo Get Support https://blog.thunderbird.net/2022/10/need-help-with-thunderbird-heres-how-to-get-support/ Source: Thunderbird | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.thunderbird.net/2022/10/need-help-with-thunderbird-heres-how-to-get-support/
[17:34]	TR Bot	 Need Help With Thunderbird? Here's How To Get Support
[17:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	it had more marketshare than openbsd, did it fall below openbsd or something?
[17:35]	MinceR	11 183141 < schestowitz[TR]> razik
[17:35]	MinceR	https://unreal.fandom.com/wiki/Skaarj_Razik
[17:35]	TR Bot	 Skaarj Razik | Unreal Wiki | Fandom
[17:36]	MinceR	11 183412 < highest_cubist_thrills>  Netcraft confirms NetBSD is dead <- im sceptical
[17:36]	MinceR	it's an ancient slashdot meme
[17:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	<MinceR> it's an ancient slashdot meme <- ha
[17:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me just learned "OPPALANCE-- YOU OWN EVERYTHING!"
[17:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	they should make a gnu/linux distro called oppalance
[17:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Nazik
[17:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	Nazik. Nazik is a beautiful strong independent Kurdish women who is very sensitive and has a good heart. She will change your life for the better. She has great goals. She can make people feel better with a smile.
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[17:52]	TR News	Imperceptible and blackbox-undetectable backdoors in compiled neural networks https://arxiv.org/abs/2210.00108
[17:52]	TR Bot	 [2210.00108] ImpNet: Imperceptible and blackbox-undetectable backdoors in compiled neural networks
[17:53]	TR News	Tuya T6E is a 4-inch Android touch control panel & Zigbee gateway for OEMs https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/10/11/tuya-t6e-4-inch-android-touch-control-panel-for-oems/
[17:53]	TR Bot	 Tuya "T6E" is a 4-inch Android touch control panel & Zigbee gateway for OEMs - CNX Software
[17:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	Stopping GNU/Linux (and the GPL) May Be Mission Impossible
[17:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	Low-budget and low-energy computing will favour GNU/Linux; Microsoft Windows is far too bloated to remain competitive as prices of energy soar and supply chain woes translate into low sales
[17:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	they already control it
[17:54]	frog	"Low-budget and low-energy computing will favour GNU/Linux"
[17:54]	frog	no, it doesn't
[17:55]	frog	the GNU-toolchain and buildsystem themselves are the prime examples, why GNU isn't it anymore
[17:55]	TR News	Parrots of CISA https://www.fosslife.org/cybersecurity-awareness-4-steps-improve-your-security-online
[17:55]	TR Bot	 Cybersecurity Awareness: 4 Steps to Improve Your Security Online
[17:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	its like you have 2 and 2 and refuse to understand how 4 is the obvious result
[17:56]	frog	and micros~1 doesn't at least bother with the fundemental question, of toolchain and buildsystem integration for source-based workflow
[17:56]	frog	with free/opensource software
[17:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	theres no opposition.
[17:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	theres zero opposition.
[17:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean HOW is gnu/linux going to be destroyed, when its the aim of the companies that you yourself state have taken it over to control it and turn it into shit
[17:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	when no one actually opposes it?
[17:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	idk, its impossible!
[17:57]	frog	LLVM is equally, problematic, that's not a toolchain for efficient, low-power computing
[17:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	open source has taken over free software all the way to the top
[17:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	theres literally zero opposition 
[17:58]	TR News	"The NocoDB is an open-source that is released under the AGPL-3.0 license." https://medevel.com/nocodb/
[17:58]	TR Bot	 NocoDB is an Open Source No Code Database System and Airtable Alternative
[17:58]	frog	there isn't none anymore, except for some tiny fringe niches, and even those niches are poisoned and cluttered with anything but efficient and low-power computing components
[17:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	they just keep turning the heat up on the frog month after month
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[17:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	the frogs already dead. it just isnt fully cooked yet.
[17:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	if you like your frog rare, its ready to serve.
● Oct 11
[18:01]	frog	well, GNU had shit that much into my mud hole, no worries, i'm drowning and suffocating in it
[18:01]	frog	i hope you'll enjoy the taste of it, your own shit
[18:02]	TR News	Tachyum Runs Native Security-Enhanced Linux to Ensure Protection of Critical Infrastructure https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20221011005266/en/Tachyum-Runs-Native-Security-Enhanced-Linux-to-Ensure-Protection-of-Critical-Infrastructure
[18:02]	TR Bot	 Tachyum Runs Native Security-Enhanced Linux to Ensure Protection of Critical Infrastructure | Business Wire
[18:03]	TR News	"As a cluster architect or operator for large enterprises or telco clouds, relying on a basic container network interface (CNI) for advanced cloud networking is like using hand tools for construction; they are accessible and practical for small-scale workshops, but they lack the efficiency for largescale projects." https://containerjournal.com/features/can-your-kubernetes-cni-do-these-three-things/
[18:03]	TR Bot	 Can Your Kubernetes CNI Do These Three Things? - Container Journal
[18:04]	TR News	No, it's not, it's just another source of pollution https://containerjournal.com/features/cloud-native-computing-is-good-for-the-environment/
[18:04]	TR Bot	 Cloud-Native Computing is Good for the Environment - Container Journal
[18:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	its illegal to eat penguins because of the antarctic treaty of 1959 and many species are on an endangered list
[18:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	eating too many is a risk of mercury poisoning (they eat fuckloads of krill)
[18:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	explorers have eaten them in survival situations
[18:05]	TR News	"The Xen Project has released one or more Xen Security Advisories (XSAs). The security of Qubes OS is not affected. Therefore, no user action is required." https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2022/10/11/xsas-released-on-2022-10-11/
[18:05]	TR Bot	 XSAs released on 2022-10-11 | Qubes OS
[18:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	their eggs taste fishy
[18:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	you can eat gnu https://www.glamour.com/story/afternoon-snack-gnu-bars-weird
[18:06]	TR Bot	Snack: Gnu Bars (Weird Name, Great Taste) | Glamour
[18:07]	TR News	[git pull] IOMMU Updates for Linux v6.1 https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Y0QMOy7g2nADghrJ@8bytes.org/
[18:07]	TR Bot	 [git pull] IOMMU Updates for Linux v6.1 - Joerg Roedel
[18:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	http://www.gnufoods.com/ourproducts/
[18:07]	TR Bot	( status 404 @ http://www.gnufoods.com/ourproducts/ )
[18:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	who gnu
[18:07]	TR News	"Here are the latest modula-2 front end patches for review." https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2022-October/603161.html
[18:07]	TR Bot	 [PATCH] 0/19 modula-2 front end patches overview
[18:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	btw, vultures eat gnus-- but they cant get through the skin so they just go for-- look it up, its so fitting
[18:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	after OTHER scavengers rip the gnu open, vultures can get at the insides
[18:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	i feel like this fact will become increasingly appropos
[18:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	gnu.vultures
[18:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	vulture: "i eat gnu btw"
[18:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	ibm: we own gnu
[18:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	fsf: no you dont, pretty please
[18:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	gnu.vultures: we are looking to be acquired by microsoft or apple
[18:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	aurora: so are we!
[18:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	but based on the relative level of coverage, techrights (the website) cares more about what aurora is doing than what ibm and gnu.vultures are doing
[18:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	because you wont find much (on techrights) about ibm or gnu.vultures taking over gnu
[18:14]	starstreak	linucks btw
[18:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	if anything it downplays that, while going after aurora with nuclear laser beams
[18:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	<starstreak> linucks btw <- ibm linucks
[18:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	linucks for nazis
[18:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	(still better than stallman)
[18:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	techrights makes a very big deal of ibm going after red hat, of microsoft going after osi, of aurora trying to sell out to microsoft
[18:17]	starstreak	ICBM
[18:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	but with these things happening to / from gnu itself, techrights acts like its a little injured bird it scooped into a shoebox on the side of the road
[18:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	"dont worry little bird, youll be fine"
[18:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	when it turns out to be a vulture and it starts eating gnus, dont say i didnt tell you so
[18:18]	MinceR	it had better hurry up
[18:18]	MinceR	there's not much of it to eat already
[18:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	 there's not much of it to eat already <- thats what im saying
[18:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	this isnt a gnu, its an ex-parrot
[18:19]	starstreak	keep RMS away from parrots
[18:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	 keep RMS away from parrots <- theyre keeping him away from an ex-parrot
[18:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	he actually likes parrots, he just doesnt want one as a pet
[18:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	he talked about how much he liked parrots, and then i guess he was worried (maybe he got offers) that someone would give him a parrot as a gift
[18:20]	TR News	"In this video, I am going to show how to install Nitrux 2.4.1." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=VqG7NWaVg-o
[18:20]	TR Bot	 How to install Nitrux 2.4.1 - Invidious
[18:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	and he said please dont, they require lots of care and i travel too much
[18:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	but being on the spectrum, he turned that into an article on why you shouldnt give him a parrot
[18:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	and being normies, people realised this was pretty funny
[18:21]	starstreak	"A parrot once had sex with me. I did not recognize the act as sex until it was explained to me afterward, but being stroked on the hand by his soft belly feathers was so pleasurable that I yearn for another chance. I have a photo of that act; should I go to prison for it?" -RMS
[18:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	which it is, but what he says is still perfectly reasonable
[18:22]	starstreak	 I yearn for another chance. <- lol
[18:22]	starstreak	https://stallman.org/articles/extreme.html
[18:22]	TR Bot	 "Extreme Pornography"
[18:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	all that making fun of stallman really served mostly to sever the head from an organisation that did more than any other to fight for user rights
[18:23]	starstreak	and for the rights of people who have sex with parrots
[18:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean a little of it is fine, but it served an evil purpose
[18:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	and for the rights of people who have sex with parrots <- i mean thats not true obviously
[18:24]	TR News	An awesome KDE Akademy is over. Hello Thessaloniki!!! | iBlog Efstathios Iosifidis https://eiosifidis.blogspot.com/2022/10/kde-akademy-2022.html Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//eiosifidis.blogspot.com/2022/10/kde-akademy-2022.html
[18:24]	TR Bot	 An awesome KDE Akademy is over. Hello Thessaloniki!!! | iBlog Efstathios Iosifidis
[18:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmemes/comments/4fpn9s/til_richard_stallman_had_sex_with_a_parrot/
[18:26]	TR Bot	 TIL Richard Stallman had sex with a parrot : linuxmemes
[18:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	here we get to the height of woke hypocrisy
[18:26]	TR News	 (UPDATED): Akademy 2022 Timetable, Videos, and More (UPDATEDx2) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/01/Akademy_2022_Timetable_Videos_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/01/Akademy_2022_Timetable_Videos_and_More.gmi 
[18:26]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Akademy 2022 Timetable, Videos, and More (UPDATEDx2)
[18:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	autists arent a protected minority, but fucking near everyone else is
[18:26]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/today_s_howtos.1.gmi 
[18:26]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[18:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	you can throw stones at aspies all day long
[18:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	it belongs on github
[18:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	           Star Derp 4 
[18:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	           The one with the whales 
[18:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	"gracie is pregnant"
[18:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	Charge space lasers <- the fsf could have had space laz0rs
[18:29]	starstreak	lol
[18:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	but they were too cowardly to disturb the sanctity of the roof
[18:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	much like their approach towards ibm
[18:30]	starstreak	free space laz0rz
[18:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	Plot a course for the fuck out of here! <- this is good advice
[18:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	the rape fleet, eh?
[18:31]	MinceR	hide your kids, hide your wife
[18:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	"That was when Julian Assange entered the room."
[18:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	"Richard ate some kind of fungus off his foot" <- probably a hangnail
[18:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	I will begin leaking fake documents, said Julian. 
[18:33]	starstreak	:)
[18:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	Richard and his parrot went into another room and got busy. <- sigh
[18:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	Thats why the Free Software Foundation hates us. They want every piece of information out in public via plain text! <- if only that were true, they would be aaron swartz
[18:35]	TR News	EU watchdog probes Frontex & EEAS support to non-EU states to develop surveillance https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/10/10/eu-watchdog-probes-frontex-eeas-support-to-non-eu-states-to-develop-surveillance
[18:35]	TR Bot	watchdog probes Frontex & EEAS support to non-EU states to develop surveillance | Euronews
[18:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	"Life was good until communism was rediscovered in 7125 and another group of time travelers would solve that problem as well." lol
[18:36]	TR News	Happy Ada Lovelace Day! Here are our favorite tech books for kids | https://opensource.com/article/22/10/ada-lovelace-day-tech-books-kids Source: Open Source Initiative | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//opensource.com/article/22/10/ada-lovelace-day-tech-books-kids
[18:36]	TR Bot	Ada Lovelace Day! Here are our favorite tech books for kids | Opensource.com
[18:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	i cant find any evidence that anyone was ever charged with molesting a parrot
[18:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	there was a guy in indiana who violated a chicken, but thats indiana for you
[18:37]	TR News	LOL CLOWN HEY HI... look ma! i did de journalisms https://venturebeat.com/ai/google-reveals-whats-next-for-cloud-ai/
[18:37]	TR Bot	reveals what's next for Cloud AI | VentureBeat
[18:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	im not saying its never happened, i simply couldnt find any mention of someone being charged
[18:38]	TR News	 (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi 
[18:38]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
[18:38]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, no no no, the parrot had sex with rms, not the other way around
[18:38]	starstreak	he didn't call it rape either
[18:38]	starstreak	in fact, he longs for a chance to do it again
[18:39]	TR News	"Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could allow an unauthorized user to enumerate user accounts." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-284-03
[18:39]	starstreak	https://gizmodo.com/please-do-not-buy-richard-stallman-a-parrot-and-other-r-5853729
[18:39]	TR Bot	 Sensormatic Electronics C-CURE 9000 | CISA
[18:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	this really does feel like reddit now
[18:39]	TR Bot	 Please Do Not Buy Richard Stallman a Parrot And Other Rules
[18:39]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, why does it feel like reddit
[18:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	this feels like the sort of conversation one would have to go to reddit to have
[18:40]	starstreak	lol
[18:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	hey you guys, we are having the conversation on reddit
[18:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	only this isnt reddit
[18:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	isnt that weird?
[18:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	garth! that was a haiku! 
[18:40]	starstreak	haiku os btw
[18:40]	TR News	Severity 9.8 out of 10 https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-284-02
[18:40]	TR Bot	 Daikin Holdings Singapore Pte Ltd. SVMPC1 and SVMPC2 | CISA
[18:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	not on github
[18:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	x86 only
[18:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	or is there an arm version
[18:41]	starstreak	haiku is really the toy os
[18:42]	TR News	Proprietary stuff: "Successful exploitation of these vulnerabilities could crash the device accessed." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-284-01
[18:42]	TR Bot	 Altair HyperView Player | CISA
[18:43]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, did u like the story
[18:43]	TR News	Privacy and mobile phones are NOT compatible. Mozilla pissing in the wing again. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/privacy-security/hide-your-phone-number-with-firefox-relay/ see http://techrights.org/2022/09/10/mozilla-three-letter-agencies/
[18:43]	TR Bot	 Protect your privacy and your phone number with Firefox Relay
[18:43]	TR Bot	 Mozilla Hired Top-Level Managers Directly From the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Can They Be Trusted on Privacy? | Techrights
[18:45]	starstreak	i think i should be in charge of the FSF, i believe in reptilians and underground neanderthals. im crazy enough to replace him.
[18:45]	starstreak	i would hire roy to kick proprietary software's ass with his jacked muscles
[18:45]	TR News	"You will note that the TPUv4i inference chip is pretty hefty in its own right, with a single TPU core with four 128128 MXUs, running at a very respectable 1.05 GHz but only taking up 400 mm2 of area." https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/10/11/deep-dive-on-googles-exascale-tpuv4-ai-systems/
[18:45]	TR Bot	 Deep Dive On Googles Exascale TPUv4 AI Systems
[18:46]	MinceR	lol
[18:46]	TR News	"Well, 2022 is coming to a slow close, and it's time to reflect on our favourite applications we use everyday.... this list is made up of subscriber comments, requests, my favourites and coolness :-) In no particular order, the Top 10 FreeBSD Desktop Applications of 2022!" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NF4itxkyPOk
[18:46]	TR Bot	 Top FreeBSD Desktop Apps 2022 - Invidious
[18:48]	TR News	"This allows all Ubuntu users, from those in data science to those working on high-end professional graphics, to benefit from powerful GPU performance across the entire spectrum of clown infrastructure." https://www.pcr-online.biz/2022/10/11/canonical-works-with-nvidia-and-bt-to-unlock-infrastructure-scalability-for-data-scientists-technical-and-creative-professionals/
[18:48]	TR Bot	 Canonical works with NVIDIA and BT to unlock infrastructure scalability for data scientists, technical and creative professionals PCR
[18:49]		*starstreak puts her hand in her arm pit and squeezes, then she takes her hand and smells it
[18:49]	starstreak	am i good enough to lead the FSF/GNU now?
[18:49]	TR News	deepin 20.7 Quick overview #linux #deepin - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=oDpX-dEMB-U | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/oDpX-dEMB-U
[18:49]	TR Bot	 deepin 20.7 Quick overview #linux #deepin - Invidious
[18:50]	TR News	"These include capacity building and training in surveillance techniques and the transfer of surveillance equipment." https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/10/10/eu-watchdog-probes-frontex-eeas-support-to-non-eu-states-to-develop-surveillance
[18:50]	TR Bot	watchdog probes Frontex & EEAS support to non-EU states to develop surveillance | Euronews
[18:54]	TR News	See photo "Google Clown NEXT [pile of poo]" https://venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Google-Cloud-Next-e1634148277238.jpg?w=578&strip=all
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[19:18]	AdmFubar	rrrthe room is turing into old snl skits
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[19:22]	MinceR	:)
[19:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	 i think i should be in charge of the FSF, i believe in reptilians and underground neanderthals. im crazy enough <- yeah but it takes a bit more than that
[19:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	at any rate, you cant be any worse than what they have now
[19:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	if you do get put in charge of the fsf, talk to leah and uncuff stallman and let him go
[19:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	tell him to go start a real free software organisation
[19:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	"but i did"
[19:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah, that was literally in the last century
[19:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	go start another one
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[19:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	hes just a guy in a gnu mascot costume now
[19:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	it sucks
[19:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	the fsf sucks
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[19:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	but as far as running the fsf goes
[19:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	the fsf was supposed to be about free software, its been taken over by open source
[19:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	open source was eric raymonds narcissistic ego trip bolex ripoff fsf
[19:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	its ok to make your own fsf, theyre not against that
[19:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	he made a bullshit (dishonest) version that started selling out the first year it existed
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[19:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	roy says it used to be different-- its gotten worse 
[19:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	it has gotten worse. perens accused them of hurting free software in year one
[19:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	im taking perens over roy on this
[19:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	for one because you can go verify that what perens said was true
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[19:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	it was eric raymonds ego trip and for perens it was (at best) a naive mistake
[19:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	ever since then its turned into (quite deliberately through plans and schemes which raymond himself thankfully exposed-- his biggest contribution imo)
[19:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	(not enough to make up for what he destroyed but certainly a mitigation)
[19:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	ever since open source has been a trojan horse for corporations to invade
[19:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	open source has also been completely unfair to stallman, so that eric raymond can wave his kkk dick at the world
[19:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean hes basically jk rowling to osis hogwarts school of corporate fuckery
[19:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	so as far as you running the fsf, youd be leaning open source
[19:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	but it cant hurt them now
[19:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean, i dont think you love corporations
[19:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	i think you still believe, like perens did, that open source tactics will work
[19:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	the goal of free software was to completely liberate the user-- to make ALL software free
[19:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	to have users control their computing
[19:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	and open source has taken them farther and farther from that
[19:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	its been a counterrevolution
[19:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	linucks is counterrevolution os
[19:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	but if you took control of (whats left of) the fsf
[19:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	it would be a signal to more people that fsf was sympathetic to open source
[19:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	and i cant imagine how that would hurt anything, since the fsf is dead anyway
[19:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	i used to be open source (more than a decade ago) just like mjg was (more than ten years ago) transphobic
[19:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	one of the reason i fight it so hard is i think it suckers people with its bullshit
[19:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	so its not morally wrong to support open source if you believe its an actual good in the world
[19:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	its a mistake
[19:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	and one thing techrights never talks about (which is too bad) is that open source is calling it "free software" now
[19:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	that would have been a good thing, when free software still existed and they were pointing to it
[19:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	so free software could speak for itself (something open source took over, speaking for free software like auti$m $peaks talks for people on the spectrum)
[19:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	but since free software isnt saying anything, because its cancelled with lies
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[19:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	open source can speak for it and wear its terminology like hanibal wearing the face he cut off a prison guard
[19:48]	MinceR	"I'm that man."
[19:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	they can fly the fsf flag and say "free software" and it still means "handing free software and its users over to corporate control"
[19:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	but its called free software.
[19:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	its like when kenny dressed as spenny and sang about how he misses getting buggered by his grandpa
[19:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats what open source does to free software these days
[19:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	so it was at one point good that they called it "free software"
[19:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	but now its just a joke.
[19:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	its only good for opponents to say "free software" when free software is around to say "well heres what it means"
[19:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	that was the point of not calling it open source
[19:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	but free software isnt here anymore
[19:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	its dead, eminem has it locked up in his basement
[19:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	with dr dre
[19:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	so the whole thing is a lie now
[19:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean, its possible for people to still be honest
[19:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	but theyre a minority within a minority within a minority
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[19:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	free software is the gay black trans woman of tech
[19:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	i doubt any gay black trans women will appreciate the comparison...
[19:52]	AdmFubar	I doublt anyone will
[19:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	but only because they have no idea how much free software has gotten shit on by a bunch of rich white cishet ceos
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[19:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	stallman is just an autistic jew, but hes not homeless (hes sort of voluntarily half-homeless but thats another story) and hes still a white guy
[19:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	so he gets no protections
[19:54]	starstreak	so im going to be totally honest.. im coming out...
[19:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	accusing stallman of ableism is like accusing contrapoints of being a terf
[19:54]	starstreak	i identify as a neanderthal because i have neanderthal genes
[19:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	 im coming out... <- so we better get this party started?
[19:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	i identify as a <- well hopefully you can campaign for neanderthal rights
[19:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean theyre people too
[19:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	im sure roy will LOVE This
[19:55]	starstreak	they're people too.. underground
[19:55]	starstreak	https://cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org/neanderthal-agenda.html
[19:55]	TR Bot	 Cerberus Investigations - The Neanderthal Agenda
[19:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	im not clear on whether their agenda is considered negative or not
[19:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	i know the repilian one is
[19:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	reptilian
[19:56]	starstreak	oh, i got reptilian stuff too
[19:56]	starstreak	https://cerberusinvestigations.neocities.org/reptilian-agenda.html
[19:56]	TR Bot	 Cerberus Investigations - The Reptilian Agenda
[19:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah but im (slightly) more familiar with that part of the story
[19:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me is familiar with all kinds of stories
[19:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	i can tell you about joseph smith and xenu too
[19:57]	starstreak	i had a cat named xenu
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[19:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats epic
[19:58]	starstreak	i named her after scientology lol
[19:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	well yeah
[19:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean it would be a hell of a coincidence
[19:58]	starstreak	my aunt has her now, i hope shes happier
[19:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	is she ot7?
[19:58]	starstreak	lol i was going to call her Schrodinger but my ex wife had problems pronouncing it
[19:58]	starstreak	and spelling it
[19:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	how hard is it to say shrow dinger
[19:58]	starstreak	lol
[19:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	well umlauts can be tricky
[19:59]	starstreak	i can't be racist, my ex wife is jewish
[19:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	i can't be racist, my ex wife is jewish <- im sure dfc has some pointers if youre interested
[19:59]	starstreak	lol
[19:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	his husband is phillipino
● Oct 11
[20:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	i think its spelled with an f
[20:00]	starstreak	yeah so he has a license to say racist stuff against black people all the time
[20:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	its not a word i ever use
[20:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	 so he has a license to say racist stuff against black people all the t <- right because hes gay
[20:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	i think gays probably have more rights than blacks in practice
[20:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	but its still a contest so im not going to call it here
[20:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	in practice <- not in many parts of africa
[20:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	probably in illinois though
[20:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	that the thing, who wins most oppressed group is a regional thing
[20:01]	starstreak	dfc has sent a chat room precedent, if he can get away with that shit, i can talk about my simulation religion and reptilians/neanderthals
[20:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	we can do a world championship but it so misses the point
[20:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	if he can get away with that shit, i can talk about my simulation religion and reptilians/neanderthals <- no because when YOU do it the channel LOOKS BAD (:
[20:02]	starstreak	:D
[20:02]	starstreak	everyone in the channel making fun of me sure does make the channel look bad
[20:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	"well take the mormons and the nazis, BUT WE DONT WANT THE CONSPIRACY THEORISTS!"-- blazing saddles
[20:03]	starstreak	conspiracy facts
[20:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	everyone in the channel making fun of me <- i legitimately like you. i dont know how serious you are about the conspiracy theories.
[20:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	even if you were entirely serious, id still like you
[20:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont like open source, or gnome, and i wont pretend i like them.
[20:04]	starstreak	:)
[20:04]	starstreak	thanks
[20:04]	starstreak	i like open source because i think free software and proprietary software can co-exist
[20:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	roy worries about conspiracy theorists more because even though people accuse him of whateverphobia because of his proximity to dfc
[20:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	he can prove hes not x, y, z
[20:06]	starstreak	he can do the same with conspiracy theorists
[20:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	but hes been called the alex jones of text blogging
[20:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	and treated as a conspiracy theorist himself
[20:07]	starstreak	Roy is the Alex Jones of free software media
[20:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	that HAS TO BE why hes more uptight about you than dfc
[20:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	no one thinks hes a fucking nazi
[20:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	but they DO think hes a conspiracy theorist
[20:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	"tap water is turning the frogs non-free!"
[20:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	s/text/tech
[20:08]	starstreak	i realized its not "turning the frogs", its "turning the freaking frogs"
[20:08]	starstreak	tap water is turning the freaking frogs non-free
[20:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah, freaking frogs
[20:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	but this is tech so
[20:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	phreaking phrogs
[20:10]	starstreak	yaaas queen!
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[20:10]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.61 k/sec., IPFS upstream 48.98 average k/sec., average swarm size 133.45
[20:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	ahbeeahm, ahbeeahm, you own everything!
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[20:13]	starstreak	oh i realized i could probably use IPFS to share my occult books
[20:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	roy will tell you it sucks
[20:13]	starstreak	oh does it?
[20:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	it might suck, but i wouldnt go based on his experience.
[20:14]	starstreak	lol touche
[20:14]	starstreak	hes not very technical
[20:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	i knew the guy that helped him setup his ipfs stuff
[20:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	 hes not very technical <- oh i dont know, hes technical
[20:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	but hes technical in some areas and bullshits in others
[20:14]	DaemonFC	starstreakoh, i got reptilian stuff too
[20:14]	starstreak	nah, ariadne does all his work
[20:14]	DaemonFC	You notice another thing about reptile people?
[20:14]	DaemonFC	Or at least I did.
[20:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	ariadne does all his work <- thats true enough (she does all the heavy lifting) but im not sure that disqualifies him entirely
[20:15]	DaemonFC	None of them have a pet cat.
[20:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	youre not telling me anything i dont know...
[20:15]	Ariadne	i think you overstate my involvement here
[20:15]	starstreak	Roy needs LTS because he struggles to upgrade stuff
[20:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	and bullshits in other <- nobody but nobody should listen to what he says about ipfs at least
[20:16]	DaemonFC	Well, to be fair, Ariadne....
[20:16]	DaemonFC	You're doing good to get Debian set up at all.
[20:16]	DaemonFC	dist-upgrade is pushing your luck.
[20:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	it has real limitations, but his inability to configure it is something he chalks up to design limitations
[20:16]	DaemonFC	I've been pleasantly surprised about how easy it is to upgrade between Fedora releases lately.
[20:16]	Ariadne	DaemonFC: i used to run one of the largest debian consultancies, i assure you i know how to operate apt :)
[20:16]	DaemonFC	Either with silverblue or just the regular RPM/DNF one.
[20:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	Roy needs LTS <- im not going to throw lts under the bus to get at roy :)
[20:17]	DaemonFC	AriadneDaemonFC: i used to run one of the largest debian consultancies, i assure you i know how to operate apt 
[20:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	i never used lts because its TOO lt
[20:17]	DaemonFC	I was discussing with Roy about Debian's stupid packaging dependencies and Alternatives.
[20:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	i want updates sooner than that
[20:17]	DaemonFC	More Debian-ism shit.
[20:17]	DaemonFC	Every time they do something like this, it only causes problems.
[20:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	openbsd has a new point version every 6 months
[20:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	but i swear debian is similar to that
[20:18]	DaemonFC	DNF with libsolv is splendid!
[20:18]	Ariadne	is it
[20:18]	DaemonFC	No more package Hell.
[20:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	on point versions
[20:18]	starstreak	debian and redhat last for years before an upgrade
[20:18]	Ariadne	because i spent some time working on this thing called DNF5
[20:18]	starstreak	ubuntu does an LTS every 1-2 years
[20:18]	Ariadne	because DNF wasn't good enough
[20:18]	Ariadne	;p
[20:18]	DaemonFC	I used Scientific Linux 6 on my desktop.
[20:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me knows sfa about dnf 
[20:19]	DaemonFC	Then I ended up turning it into CentOS 7 via some presto-change-o script.
[20:19]	starstreak	im running CentOS 9 on my virtual server
[20:19]	starstreak	btw
[20:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[20:20]	DaemonFC	Despite what mjg59_ says, old computers do die.
[20:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	freedom costs a cent os
[20:20]	DaemonFC	I finally lost my Phenom II X4. It was a saaaad day.
[20:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	it used to be a buck oh five until the economy collapsed
[20:20]	DaemonFC	That was a very stable system with a Legacy BIOS.
[20:20]	DaemonFC	I would have kept it forever just for that had the board not failed.
[20:21]	DaemonFC	It was basically 100% reliable, for about 12 years, then nothing.
[20:21]	DaemonFC	That was sad.
[20:21]	starstreak	oh i forgot i have a raspi zero w, does that qualify as a server?
[20:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	are you running server software on it and connecting it to the network?
[20:21]	DaemonFC	I probably would have eventually just grabbed a newer used Phenom II from the higher end and some more RAM for dirt cheap because it couldn't run Windows well anymore so everyone was done.
[20:22]	MinceR	11 205442 < starstreak> i identify as a neanderthal because i have neanderthal genes
[20:22]	DaemonFC	And an SSD.
[20:22]	MinceR	why not identify as a banana instead
[20:22]	MinceR	https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/genetic/people-bananas-share-dna.htm
[20:22]	TR Bot	 Do People and Bananas Really Share 50 Percent of the Same DNA? | HowStuffWorks
[20:22]	starstreak	"I AM A BANANA" -Rejected Cartoons
[20:22]	DaemonFC	I would have preferred to keep my Phenom II era system going if just for the firmware alone.
[20:22]	DaemonFC	No UEFI.
[20:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me splices and dices and creates the first bananderthal
[20:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	MAH SPOON
[20:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	IS TOOOO BIG!
[20:23]	DaemonFC	You really have to wonder how much they're paying mjg59_ to pitch its replacement, which is worse for the user in nearly every way.
[20:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	banaderthals look like bigfoot in a peanut butter jelly time costume, but it doesnt come off
[20:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	also they cant dance
[20:23]	MinceR	lol
[20:24]	starstreak	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=W7JyjZI3LUM
[20:24]	TR Bot	 REJECTED by DON HERTZFELDT (Blu-ray restoration) - Invidious
[20:24]	starstreak	MY ANUS IS BLEEDING
[20:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	i knew that was next
[20:24]	DaemonFC	I suppose I really would have had to ditch Fedora at some point if I still had any BIOS systems.
[20:24]	starstreak	I am the Queen of France!
[20:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	we used to have a king of france here
[20:24]	starstreak	DaemonFC, you should try arch btw
[20:24]	MinceR	11 212422 < starstreak> MY ANUS IS BLEEDING
[20:24]	MinceR	hello bmotion
[20:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	i miss him, he used to say everything was "another ppp"
[20:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	<starstreak> MY ANUS IS BLEEDING <- gnome 3 is a LOT to pass
[20:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	id have to train my cpu with smaller desktops and work up to gnome
[20:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	it has tiny little registers
[20:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	the g in gnome stands for "gaping"
[20:28]	MinceR	lol
[20:29]	frog	btw, Ariadne, i got a little excited about "Oasis Linux" recently, and consider moving my gentoo-overlay stuff there
[20:29]	Ariadne	no idea what that is.
[20:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	if your cpu is bleeding, its probably gnome 
[20:30]	frog	Ariadne: sorry then, don't mean to disturb you with this
[20:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	if blood is dripping down your build server in the shape of an inverted pentacle, thank the ctte
[20:31]	frog	Oasis Linux, which i would need to fork and move some of my stuff over there, could solve many problems i see with GNU-toolchain (and too LLVM), the GNU buildsystem, and too the package management
[20:33]	frog	their package management and build-system is declarative and covers both at once, package management and build system
[20:33]	frog	however, there is alot of things missing over there, the integration costs are high, and too their tree contains clutter i reject
[20:35]	frog	nonetheless, Ariadne, i had considered your competence and experience relevant, with a seccond opinion
[20:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	did the fsf ever create build servers for gnu, as in
[20:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	"if you have a gnu project you can use this server and these tools to autobuild?"
[20:38]	frog	regardless of Oasis-Linux and the benefits this has, i am considering a Roll-Back of Linux to v2.4, full tcc-toolchain integration _only_ (without binutils which still resides over there in Oasis)
[20:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	maybe some individual projects had that, but i mean gnu overall, as build infrastructure any gnu project could use
[20:39]	frog	anyway; currently i am occupied with other bureaucratic hindrances and lunacies here, which i am not sure, if this will allow me to continue any work at all
[20:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	like savannah does hosting and project info-- and i know it needs overhaul (which id be for if i didnt know damn well what it meant in practice)
[20:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	there have been two fsf efforts to provide alternatives-- one with gitlab, courtesy of matt lee or something
[20:40]	DaemonFC	I think the last tenant must have smoked.
[20:40]	DaemonFC	I've been washing the walls in the kitchen and dining room.
[20:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	i say "courtesy" because i like puns and thats a laugh
[20:40]	DaemonFC	I made a clean spot and the color of the wall changed.
[20:41]	starstreak	its hot today
[20:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	and one other that roy mentioned
[20:41]	starstreak	im wearing shorts and no shirt
[20:41]	DaemonFC	So I've been hosing them down and wiping all of the cigarette residue off them.
[20:41]	DaemonFC	I know what this is.
[20:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	 :)
[20:41]	DaemonFC	It looks like I've been painting.
[20:48]	starstreak	go go power rangers!
[20:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me is more of a turtles fan
[20:49]	starstreak	i love turtles as well
[20:49]	starstreak	i have the new TMNT video game
[20:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	xbox?
[20:49]	starstreak	yeah
[20:49]	starstreak	its available on xbox, ps4 and pc
[20:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	probably not free software
[20:49]	starstreak	nope lol
[20:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	too bad the fsf never gave a shit about free culture huh
[20:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean it really is too bad
[20:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	that one was thing ive always disagreed with them on
[20:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean i (slightly) exaggerate their stance on free culture because its mostly true
[20:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	the fsf threw free culture under the bus
[20:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	setting the stage for free culture to betray stallman later-- which they did
[20:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	no side is innoncent in that war
[20:51]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, i have the 80s TMNT and the 00s TMNT in my binder
[20:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	cc traitors, revoy traitor, kat walsh allegedly (according to roy, true for all i know)
[20:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	usually im not impressed with remakes, but the 00 tmnt was honestly twice as good
[20:52]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, 80s TMNT is hard to watch because its so cheesy but the 00 TMNT was so good
[20:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	and i liked the original (originally)
[20:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	the original fell apart and the new one was just eprfect
[20:52]	DaemonFC	Tuesday, October 11th, 2:52 PM.....SeaMonkey becomes self-aware.....its capabilities growing at a geometric rate, the Mail program flags Waukegan city officials as "e-mail scam".
[20:52]	starstreak	there is an even newer one but i have no opinion because i haven't seen it
[20:53]	DaemonFC	In a panic, they try to pull the plug.
[20:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	i have an opinion even though i havent seen it
[20:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	its shit, and ill be happy to admit i was wrong but ill never need to
[20:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	the 00 remake was a fluke
[20:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	and iirc it was actually 03 but close enough
[20:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	you did say "00s"
[20:54]	starstreak	yeah 
[20:54]	starstreak	TMNT 2003
[20:54]	starstreak	TMNT 2003 had an awesome gamecube game
[20:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	i did like the original april
[20:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	but the new one was arguably even better
[20:54]	starstreak	i like to play as April in the new video game
[20:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	if im at a cosplay thing and there are 1000 different characters
[20:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	april is going to stand out whether shes in yellow or the new one
[20:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	but its too bad they made her blonde in s7
[20:56]	starstreak	i haven't been to a con since 2003
[20:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean, they lost their best animators, because animators die
[20:56]	starstreak	Anime North :D
[20:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	i havent been to a con since earlier than that (but not much earlier)
[20:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	contrapoints would make a great april (2003 version)
[20:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	but twitter would probably find some reason the turtles are PROBLEMATIC
[20:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	splinter is a racist asian stereotype
[20:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	the turtles are racist, natalie wynn is racist
[20:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	shes the terf leader of the kkk
[20:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 40.86 k/sec., IPFS upstream 59.26 average k/sec., average swarm size 140.81
[20:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	because shes dressed up as april oneill
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[21:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	and dont be her friend or youre a white supremacist too
[21:00]	starstreak	there is no female ninja turtle
[21:00]	starstreak	its mysoginist 
[21:00]	highest_cubist_thrills	there was in some live action incarnation
[21:00]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/07/30/funny-parenting-memes-07-30-22/
[21:00]	TR Bot	 Parenting Is Tough And These Memes Express That In A Very Funny Way (30 Pics)
[21:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	there was a fifth female turtle
[21:01]	starstreak	oh  yeah
[21:01]	starstreak	but that didnt last
[21:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	that series was horrible
[21:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	hooorrrriiibbllee
[21:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	i watched like two episodes and i cant believe i made it through those
[21:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	but to be fair, i cant stand live action adaptations (including power rangers)
[21:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	only exception i can think of is the tick-- but that was brilliant
[21:02]	starstreak	power rangers was always live action lmao
[21:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	i know
[21:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	and i never liked it
[21:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	actually-- the turtles movies werent all bad
[21:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	they werent great but they werent completely awful
[21:03]	starstreak	i loved power rangers up until Power Rangers Turbo, then i lost interest
[21:03]	starstreak	apparently they all used to pick on Billy because he was gay irl
[21:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats a shame
[21:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	the 90s were like that
[21:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean broadly speaking
[21:04]	MinceR	humans are like that
[21:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	but the 90s were absolutely the decade where gay started becoming SUPER normal across the usa
[21:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	like accepting gays went from being the exception to being the rule
[21:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	there are still exceptions
[21:05]	DaemonFC	https://pastebin.com/HE4SYVw7
[21:05]	TR Bot	cannot log in to comed.com to pay my electric bill unless using a "GAFAM" Web - Pastebin.com
[21:06]	DaemonFC	From a bug report I filed to Pale Moon.
[21:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	but most people ill meet wont care if im gay or not, its not on their list of stuff to give people shit for
[21:06]	DaemonFC	MinceR: schestowitz[TR] I worked in a joke.
[21:06]	starstreak	"roughly speaking" -Jordan Peterson
[21:06]	DaemonFC	1. Go to https://www.comed.com/Pages/default.aspx
[21:06]	TR Bot	Lives | ComEd - An Exelon Company
[21:06]	DaemonFC	
[21:06]	DaemonFC	2. Click "Sign In"
[21:06]	DaemonFC	
[21:06]	DaemonFC	3. Instead of loading login page, you witness the site calling out to various Microsoft Azure junk like windows.net and onmicrosoft.com before eventually getting stuck on a spinny beach ball of death.
[21:06]	DaemonFC	
[21:06]	DaemonFC	4. RUN! It's the blob(.core.windows.net)! (Mandatory joke!)
[21:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	theres still plenty of efforts to make the law more conservative and get rid of gay rights
[21:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	but i think thats half the usual bs and half because the usa REALLY wants a revolution
[21:07]	highest_cubist_thrills	in fact it wants two
[21:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	two entirely different revolutions meant to clash with each other and fail
[21:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	and not for the first time
[21:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	im not completely pessimistic about that but history isnt optimistic
[21:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	fortunately sometimes history is wrong
[21:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	if it wasnt, nothing would ever change-- and im not cynical enough to say nothing ever has
[21:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	too many people get cocky and start acting like its in the bag
[21:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	like esr was about open source in the 00s
[21:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont think he intended for it to turn into the pile of shit it did, i do think hes too proud to admit it
[21:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont think he ever realised or ever will realise just how full of shit he really is
[21:13]	starstreak	sometimes having long hair sucks
[21:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	capitalism will fall apart either way, because it will kill the earth
[21:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	humanity has the greatest possible incentive to take it down-- the survival of the species
[21:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	i like those odds. 
[21:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	but i dont love them. capitalism is going to take down a lot before (IF) it gets taken down itself
[21:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	and being cocky about that is just as ridiculous as roys chestbeating about ibmicrosoft
[21:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	in this corner, ibm and microsoft!
[21:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	and in the other corner, roy schestowitz!
[21:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	roy, your opponennt is really big, what are you going to do?
[21:16]	highest_cubist_thrills	"well, theyre already dying, i feel like its a fair fight"
[21:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	the reality is closer to a guy sitting at home and punching the air from the sofa
[21:17]	TR News	 (NEW): 4 Best Free and Open Source OCaml Static Site Generators http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/4_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_OCaml_Static_Site_Generators.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/4_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_OCaml_Static_Site_Generators.gmi 
[21:17]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines 4 Best Free and Open Source OCaml Static Site Generators
[21:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	but its great television
[21:17]	highest_cubist_thrills	its reality television
[21:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	ibm and microsoft vs luton fc
[21:18]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/11/i-finally-got-around-to-submitting-a-web-compatibility-problem-report-on-comed-the-illinois-electric-company-to-pale-moon-forum/
[21:18]	TR Bot	 I finally got around to submitting a Web Compatibility problem report on ComEd (the Illinois electric company) to Pale Moon Forum. (Microsoft-related) | BaronHK's Rants
[21:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	"did you see that ludicrious display last night?"
[21:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	"the thing about arsenal is he always walks it in"
[21:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	"ehh, theyre havin a laugh"
[21:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	what do you think about microsoft?
[21:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	"theyre havin a laugh"
[21:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	"theyre winning!"
[21:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	"nah, theyre havin a laugh"
[21:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[21:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	"if microsoft wins, ill buy a round for everyone in the pub"
[21:20]		*AdmFubar has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s)
[21:21]	starstreak	why do we have to worry about Microsoft if they're dying?
[21:21]	highest_cubist_thrills	we dont, its in the bag!
[21:22]	TR News	CGHYRUO Wordo: INNER gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-10-11.gmi
[21:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	what did i call it before i called it the treadmill
[21:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	OH NO, its fine
[21:22]	TR News	Forth Progress: ARRAY and CRC32 gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/tech/20221011-0.gmi
[21:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	do story after story after story about whats actually wrong
[21:22]	highest_cubist_thrills	the tap water is turning the freaking frogs non-free
[21:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	then run some stories about how the opponent is dying
[21:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	then wait a bit, rinse and repeat
[21:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	this way you can say you recognise the problem-- and get all the readers who care about the problem
[21:23]	DaemonFC	https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=28881
[21:23]	TR Bot	 PM31.3 has issues on Gab.com - Pale Moon forum
[21:23]	highest_cubist_thrills	then you can say its not a problem, so no one has to worry about it
[21:23]	TR News	SUSE as SAP lackey, not an independent company https://www.suse.com/c/sles4sap-hana-cluster-automated-os-patching-with-suse-manager-and-salt-states/
[21:23]	TR Bot	HANA Cluster - automated OS patching with SUSE Manager and Salt states | SUSE Communities
[21:24]	DaemonFC	"because of so little fucks given to report, I'm just stating the most likely, unchecked, scenario" -MoonChild
[21:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	its good for attracting an audience, but it serves a counterrevolution of people doing nothing and not giving a shit about real problems
[21:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	and its not that some stories are hopeful thats the problem
[21:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean we do need hope where we can find some
[21:24]	highest_cubist_thrills	but making it up isnt helpful at all
[21:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	pretending things are fine every couple weeks is misleading as fuck
[21:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	its hopeless! its fine! its hopeless its fine!
[21:25]	TR News	"CryptPad as a software is free/libre open source software licensed under GNU AGPL developed by the France-based company Xwiki." https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/10/cryptpad-review-google-docs-forms-alternative-and-a-self-hosting-bliss.html
[21:25]	TR Bot	 Cryptpad Review: A Google Docs / Forms Alternative and a Self-Hosting Bliss
[21:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	eventually people tune out and stop caring at all
[21:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	so you just keep finding new ones
[21:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	theres a sucker born every minute-- pt barnum
[21:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	jsut say whats actually good and whats actually bad
[21:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	solving every problem in a 30 minute (or one week) cycle is sitcom / soap opera bs
[21:26]	highest_cubist_thrills	real life isnt like that
[21:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	it makes people look like heroes when they havent done anything
[21:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	i bet esr wish hed thought of that
[21:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	at least you can say "ah but we did cover the problems"
[21:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah but then countered them with bs a week later.
[21:28]	TR News	[GIT PULL] x86/mm for 6.1 https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/f42d43fd-30b0-e661-4b47-61ab15ef76ab@intel.com/
[21:28]	TR Bot	 [GIT PULL] x86/mm for 6.1 - Dave Hansen
[21:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	its a play fight-- a larp event
[21:28]	highest_cubist_thrills	its ceremonial
[21:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	fantasy.
[21:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	50s kids played cowboys and indians
[21:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	if they still did that it would be soldiers vs bin laden
[21:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	but kids play video games now instead 
[21:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	larping still exists but its more organised
[21:30]	TR News	Ben Hutchings: Debian LTS work, August-September 2022 https://www.decadent.org.uk/ben/blog/debian-lts-work-august-september-2022.html
[21:30]	TR Bot	 Better living through software - Ben Hutchings's diary of life and technology
[21:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	when most kids play cowboys vs indians now, its on a controller
[21:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	which isnt a terrible thing
[21:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	it just isnt real
[21:31]	TR News	Initial release of pg_enquo, a queryable encryption extension for PostgreSQL https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/initial-release-of-pg_enquo-a-queryable-encryption-extension-for-postgresql-2524/ Source: PostgreSQL | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.postgresql.org/about/news/initial-release-of-pg_enquo-a-queryable-encryption-extension-for-postgresql-2524/
[21:31]	TR Bot	 PostgreSQL: Initial release of pg_enquo, a queryable encryption extension for PostgreSQL
[21:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	but larp events and video games have winners too
[21:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	people who demonstrated real skills (or convincing role play at a larp event) in a fantasy role
[21:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	i suck at video games, i know theres real skill involved
[21:32]	TR News	Fall Guys: The 4 Minutes install: Try it out, its Free, and Works Great on Linux! - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/fall-guys-install-free-linux/ Source: Boiling Steam | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//boilingsteam.com/fall-guys-install-free-linux/
[21:32]	TR Bot	 Fall Guys: The 4 Minutes install: Try it out, it's Free, and Works Great on Linux! - Boiling Steam
[21:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	but its not the same as beating a real enemy
[21:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	and most people know that
[21:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	its for fun
[21:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	thats fine
[21:33]	TR News	"The Web and design team at Canonical runs in two-week iterations building and maintaining all of the Canonical websites and product web interfaces. Here are some of the highlights of our completed work from this iteration." https://ubuntu.com//blog/design-and-web-team-summary-23-september-2022
[21:33]	TR Bot	and Web team summary 23 September 2022 | Ubuntu
[21:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	esr and open source were mostly suffering from a delusion 
[21:33]	TR News	"The Ubuntu Summit will be packed with discussions and events you wont want to miss! Learn more about why you should join us in Prague on November 79th." https://ubuntu.com//blog/why-you-should-attend-ubuntu-summit-in-person
[21:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	of taking on an empire not by fighting harder but by outsmarting it
[21:34]	TR Bot	You Should Attend the Ubuntu Summit In-Person | Ubuntu
[21:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	basically, open source is xtux.
[21:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	which is now hosted on microsoft github :)
[21:35]	TR News	Documentation
[21:35]	TR News	Documentation
[21:36]	TR News	More API Endpoint Documentation for Project and Package Sources https://openbuildservice.org/2022/10/10/more-api-docs-sources//
[21:36]	TR Bot	 More API Endpoint Documentation for Project and Package Sources - Open Build Service
[21:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	"take on the evil Microsoft empire. Read the single player story to understand why we must fight!"
[21:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	now on microsoft github
[21:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	open source is a larp event, pretending to fight an enemy
[21:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	and then actually believing theyre doing that.
[21:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	microsoft is terrified of all these foam swords
[21:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	terrified
[21:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	"no you have to sing the 'im sorry' song!"-- calvin and hobbes
[21:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	microsoft: "oh no! not the 'im sorry' song!"
[21:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	ibm: we had an agreeement. we pay the families of the millions we murdered and we dont have to sing the im sorry song
[21:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	and theyre dead serious
[21:41]	TR News	Software patents needs to be eradicated. Meanwhile ICBM lobbies FOR them. https://lwn.net/Articles/910848/
[21:41]	TR Bot	clouds for the Opus codec [LWN.net]
[21:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	ibm: RICHARD STALLMAN should sing the im sorry song!
[21:42]	TR News	"AlmaLinux, Canonical, CIQ, GreyNoise and TuxCare [the new brand name for CloudLinux Enterprise services] are the five inaugural members of this growing network." https://www.bakersfield.com/ap/news/tenable-announces-new-research-alliance-program-for-vulnerability-intelligence-sharing/article_ea08eb0e-f98b-5d71-a29a-f472436a2a43.html
[21:42]	TR Bot	Announces New Research Alliance Program for Vulnerability Intelligence Sharing | News | bakersfield.com
[21:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	we are just humble holocaust-orchestrating nazis for hire
[21:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	why no get the hand-flapping jew to sing hes sorry?
[21:43]	TR News	CISA Releases Three Industrial Control Systems Advisories https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/07/cisa-releases-three-industrial-control-systems-advisories
[21:43]	TR Bot	 CISA Releases Three Industrial Control Systems Advisories | CISA
[21:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	go bother him, he said mean things about linucks
[21:43]	highest_cubist_thrills	go on then!
[21:44]	TR News	"This release includes security fixes in Go 1.18.7 (released 2022-10-04) for the archive/tar, net/http/httputil, and regexp packages. This release also includes fixes to improve robustness. This release note describes what is different between Istio 1.14.4 and Istio 1.14.5." https://istio.io/latest/news/releases/1.14.x/announcing-1.14.5/
[21:44]	TR Bot	 Istio / Announcing Istio 1.14.5
[21:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	im pretty sure he fucked a parrot
[21:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean i dont have proof, but maybe
[21:44]	TR News	Tiger Lake embedded Box PC offers V-by-One and eDP Interfaces - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/10/11/tiger-lake-embedded-box-pc-offers-v-by-one-and-edp-interfaces/ Source: CNX Software
[21:44]	TR Bot	 Tiger Lake embedded Box PC offers V-by-One and eDP Interfaces - CNX Software
[21:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	so lets fight ibm, what are they doing?
[21:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	oh theyre taking over gnu/linux with an init system and stealing gcc
[21:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	can we fork gcc?
[21:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	not really
[21:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	maybe, but not right now for sure
[21:46]	TR News	LibreOffice QA/Dev Report: September 2022 https://qa.blog.documentfoundation.org/2022/10/11/qa-dev-report-september-2022/
[21:46]	TR Bot	 QA/Dev Report: September 2022 - LibreOffice QA Blog
[21:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	(easier than forking clang, even thoug forks DO sometimes go clang)
[21:46]	highest_cubist_thrills	can we stop using the trojan horse ibm uses to take over gnu/linux?
[21:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	well yeah, but why bother, ibm is dying anyway
[21:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	we can just wait
[21:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	doing nothing = fighting
[21:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	its the (new)fsf way
[21:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	the one microsoft way
[21:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	the single init system way
[21:48]	schestowitz[TR]	the weiwei
[21:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	huiwei?
[21:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	wu wei?
[21:48]	schestowitz[TR]	Ai Weiwei
[21:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	life is a hi wei
[21:48]	schestowitz[TR]	http://www.aiweiwei.com/
[21:49]	TR Bot	 Ai Weiwei Films
[21:49]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.gdcinteriors.com/ai-weiwei-exhibition-royal-academy/
[21:49]	TR Bot	 Ai Weiwei The Medium of Politics
[21:49]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2675885/
[21:49]	TR Bot	Weiwei - IMDb
[21:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	aiweiwei <- sounds like something borat used to say 
[21:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	which is actually a yiddish expression (not one i knew previously)
[21:49]	schestowitz[TR]	is nice?
[21:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	no it was like like wow we wah wah
[21:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	but it actually means something
[21:49]	highest_cubist_thrills	id have to look it up again
[21:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	i think its one of those expression where you might know it if you grew up in a jewish family
[21:50]	highest_cubist_thrills	but even hanging around jewish people for years i never heard it used in person
[21:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	i rarely even hear the word "tomboy" used but everyone knows what it means
[21:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	and it still gets used sometimes
[21:51]	highest_cubist_thrills	it used to be a more common word
[21:51]	TR News	"Do you want to bring some fun and danger back to running Linux, well Linux kernel 5.19.12 was completely borked on 12th gen intel laptops and in some cases was even killing the screens." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=i96MlyGMavQ
[21:51]	TR Bot	 This Linux Kernel Was Killing Laptop Screens!! - Invidious
[21:52]	highest_cubist_thrills	people even say "tomgirl" now, opposite of tomboy obviously
[21:53]	starstreak	i haven't heard tomgirl as much as i've heard femboy
[21:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah same here
[21:53]	highest_cubist_thrills	 i think tomgirl is clever but ive heard femboy a lot more
[21:54]	TR News	FAKE privacy, new buzzwords: What is confidential computing? A high-level explanation for CISOs | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/what-is-confidential-computing-a-high-level-explanation-for-cisos
[21:54]	TR Bot	is confidential computing? A high-level explanation for CISOs | Ubuntu
[21:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	language is far from impervious to fashion
[21:54]	highest_cubist_thrills	sometimes thats a good thing
[21:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	it can be used for good or for evil, and it can be natural or nudged or overenforced
[21:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	when its natural there really isnt shit you can do about it, unless we want to go back to proto-indo-european
[21:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	when its nudged its not always a bad thing
[21:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	when its overenforced its probably more trouble than its worth
[21:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	gives people something to do
[21:57]	TR News	iTWire - Microsoft fails to fix Exchange zero-days in October Patch Tuesday release https://itwire.com/security/microsoft-fails-to-fix-exchange-zero-days-in-october-patch-tuesday-release.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/security/microsoft-fails-to-fix-exchange-zero-days-in-october-patch-tuesday-release.html
[21:57]	TR Bot	- Microsoft fails to fix Exchange zero-days in October Patch Tuesday release
[21:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	no one takes prescriptive language more seriously than americans
[21:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	they didnt invent english but by god, they have some rules about it
[21:57]	TR News	"An attacker can exploit some of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/11/microsoft-releases-october-2022-security-updates
[21:57]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Releases October 2022 Security Updates | CISA
[21:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	stuff that english english speakers dont use or care about 
[21:58]	starstreak	im gonna watch Harold and Kumar
[21:58]	starstreak	great movie
[21:58]	TR News	Fortinet https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/11/cisa-has-added-one-known-exploited-vulnerability-catalog
[21:58]	TR Bot	 CISA Has Added One Known Exploited Vulnerability to Catalog | CISA
[21:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	havent seen it
[21:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	i wish they would make harold and kumar and the purple crayon
[21:58]	highest_cubist_thrills	that would be epic
● Oct 11
[22:01]	highest_cubist_thrills	ive already seen harold and benjamin escape the ips
[22:01]	TR News	"This release contains a patch for CVE-2022-41715 and bug fixes to improve robustness. This release note describes what is different between Istio 1.13.8 and Istio 1.13.9." https://istio.io/latest/news/releases/1.13.x/announcing-1.13.9/
[22:01]	TR Bot	 Istio / Announcing Istio 1.13.9
[22:02]	highest_cubist_thrills	they were literally running from the police after swimming away from them on a boat (the police were on a boat, they were in the water)
[22:02]	TR News	The Smart-Badge recognizes kitchen activities with its suite of sensors | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/11/the-smart-badge-recognizes-kitchen-activities-with-its-suite-of-sensors/ Source: Arduino
[22:02]	TR Bot	 The Smart-Badge recognizes kitchen activities with its suite of sensors | Arduino Blog
[22:03]	TR News	Create vector video art with an Arduino | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/11/create-vector-video-art-with-an-arduino/ Source: Arduino | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/11/create-vector-video-art-with-an-arduino/
[22:03]	TR Bot	 Create vector video art with an Arduino | Arduino Blog
[22:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	later he was put in a russian gulag (true story)
[22:03]	highest_cubist_thrills	but he got out, then he got banned from orcplanet
[22:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	mincer, orcs are russians or putlin sympathisers?
[22:04]	highest_cubist_thrills	xrev knows i dont mean him obviously
[22:04]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, neil patrick harris is in harold and kumar
[22:04]	starstreak	i love NPH
[22:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	bonus! hes in my favourite movie of all time
[22:05]	starstreak	its a shame hes gay
[22:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	yeah id fuck him
[22:05]	starstreak	i'd fuck his dick off
[22:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	oh dress up as brooke shields and you have a real chance
[22:05]	highest_cubist_thrills	he used to be crazy about her growing up
[22:05]	TR News	I finally got around to submitting a Web Compatibility problem report on ComEd (the Illinois electric company) to Pale Moon Forum. (Microsoft-related) | BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/10/11/i-finally-got-around-to-submitting-a-web-compatibility-problem-report-on-comed-the-illinois-electric-company-to-pale-moon-forum/
[22:05]	TR Bot	 I finally got around to submitting a Web Compatibility problem report on ComEd (the Illinois electric company) to Pale Moon Forum. (Microsoft-related) | BaronHK's Rants
[22:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	i only know this because its in the song "its [the tony awards] not just for gays anymore"
[22:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	"its for gays and the jews, and liberal intellectuals..."
[22:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	hes dressed up as a sailor 
[22:06]	highest_cubist_thrills	or the men carrying him around are
[22:07]	TR News	"Self-driving cars have the potential to change the paradigm of transportation." Yes, it can make a LOT more car accidents with NOBODY held ACCOUNTABLE. https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2022/10/11/carlafox-open-source-web-based-carla-visualizer/
[22:07]	TR Bot	 Carlafox, an open-source web-based CARLA visualizer
[22:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	when nph freaks out its very miles silverberg from murphy brown
[22:08]	TR News	What is this? 'Linux'hint shilling Micros**t Windows again? https://linuxhint.com/edit-pdf-with-pdf-studio/ http://techrights.org/2022/07/17/linuxhint-losing-direction/
[22:08]	TR Bot	 How to Edit PDF with PDF Studio
[22:08]	TR Bot	 LinuxHint (LinuxHint.com) is Not About Linux Anymore | Techrights
[22:08]	highest_cubist_thrills	also he did one of the funniest ad libs ive ever heard
[22:09]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, whats your favourite movie of all time?
[22:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	hes freaking out so eddie griffin slaps some sense into him and nph touches his face and says "daddy..."
[22:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	whats your favourite movie of all time <- undercover brother
[22:09]	highest_cubist_thrills	nph plays lance the intern
[22:09]	starstreak	one of my favourite tv shows is "How I met your mother" and NPH was my fav character in it
[22:10]	starstreak	"daddy's home" -NPH
[22:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	"what can i say man? affirmative action"-- chi mcbride as chief
[22:10]	MinceR	11 230414 < highest_cubist_thrills> mincer, orcs are russians or putlin sympathisers?
[22:10]	MinceR	russians serving putler
[22:10]	TR News	 (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Security_Leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Security_Leftovers.2.gmi 
[22:10]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
[22:10]	highest_cubist_thrills	right, figured
[22:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	 NPH was my fav character in it <- he couldnt be my favourite
[22:11]	TR News	"Bitcoin Lightning is a system that uses custom Bitcoin transactions to move assets quickly outside of the regular blockchain process." https://www.maketecheasier.com/create-bitcoin-lightning-node-linux/
[22:11]	TR Bot	 How to Create a Bitcoin Lightning Node in Linux - Make Tech Easier
[22:11]	highest_cubist_thrills	hes up against one of my favourite comedians and the love of my life (not really, but i mean, shes probably in the top 10)
[22:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	eddie izzard is the best
[22:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	but hes probably not amazing in that show. i like his standup
[22:12]	highest_cubist_thrills	nph can be funny in pretty much any situation
[22:13]	highest_cubist_thrills	hes like spenny on speed, but better looking
[22:13]	MinceR	(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLRdruqQfRk
[22:13]	TR Bot	https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=HLRdruqQfRk
[22:13]	TR Bot	vid.puffyan.us | Uppestcase and Lowestcase Letters [advances in derp learning] - Invidious
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[22:14]	highest_cubist_thrills	and nph touches his face and says "daddy..." <- it wasnt until he did this that i realised nph was a comic genius
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[22:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	i imagine they had to change their outfits after the crew pissed themselves laughing at that
[22:15]	TR News	 (NEW): Ubuntu: Buzzwords, Update, and Clown Computing Fluff http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Ubuntu_Buzzwords_Update_and_Clown_Computing_Fluff.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Ubuntu_Buzzwords_Update_and_Clown_Computing_Fluff.gmi 
[22:15]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Ubuntu: Buzzwords, Update, and Clown Computing Fluff
[22:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	because i dont think they expected it
[22:15]	highest_cubist_thrills	its nearly tbe best line in the movie
[22:16]	TR News	 (NEW): Videos: Fall Guys, Intel Breaks Linux Kernel 5.19.12, Top FreeBSD Desktop Software http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Videos_Fall_Guys_Intel_Breaks_Linux_Kernel_5_19_12_Top_FreeBSD_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Videos_Fall_Guys_Intel_Breaks_Linux_Kernel_5_19_12_Top_FreeBSD_.gmi 
[22:16]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Videos: Fall Guys, Intel Breaks Linux Kernel 5.19.12, Top FreeBSD Desktop Software
[22:18]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, this is a good song from GTA (exclusive) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=kbVpqwdqgH0
[22:18]	TR Bot	 Baauer x Channel Tres x Danny Brown - 'READY TO GO (Original Mix)' - Invidious
[22:18]	highest_cubist_thrills	starstreak  https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vhvYeGv6ecg (lines not there sorry)
[22:18]	TR Bot	 Undercover Brother: Brotherhood Headquarters (HD CLIP) - Invidious
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[22:19]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, NPH tried to pick up a girl by saying "daddy's home" in how i met your mother
[22:19]	highest_cubist_thrills	did it work?
[22:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[22:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	 this is a good song from GTA <- sounds like sir mixalot doing a project with dvda
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[22:20]	highest_cubist_thrills	or dvda impersonating sir mixalot
[22:21]	DaemonFC	Hmmm, this is funny.
[22:21]	DaemonFC	Pale Moon actually has additional compatibility problems that SeaMonkey doesn't even have.
[22:22]	DaemonFC	Like, nothing happens when you press "Write" for adding a post on Wordpress.
[22:22]	DaemonFC	I suppose that having different Web compatibility problems is to be expected considering they're two different forks of Gecko that are quire far behind.
[22:23]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills, NPH - mushrooms, https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wQrxt0qcxzs
[22:23]	TR Bot	 Harold & Kumar Neil Patrick Harris "mushrooms" - Invidious
[22:24]	TR News	 (NEW): Pale Moon and Mozilla Firefox, Thunderbird http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Pale_Moon_and_Mozilla_Firefox_Thunderbird.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Pale_Moon_and_Mozilla_Firefox_Thunderbird.gmi 
[22:24]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Pale Moon and Mozilla Firefox, Thunderbird
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[22:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	/me bets nph knows a LOT about "mushrooms"
[22:25]	highest_cubist_thrills	he probably knows his way around one
[22:25]	TR News	 (NEW): deepin 20.7 Quick overview http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/deepin_20_7_Quick_overview.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/deepin_20_7_Quick_overview.gmi 
[22:25]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines deepin 20.7 Quick overview
[22:26]	schestowitz[TR]	mushroom clowns
[22:26]	schestowitz[TR]	confidential mushroom
[22:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	goodnight hollow moon
[22:27]	highest_cubist_thrills	goodnight bowl of mushrooms
[22:28]	starstreak	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mlPt2F5JwXc&listen=false
[22:28]	TR Bot	 Some Great Barney Stinson Moments - Invidious
[22:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	goodnight drink laced with perry barlows lsd
[22:29]	highest_cubist_thrills	goodnight sex-crazed parrot
[22:30]	highest_cubist_thrills	"daddys home! daddys home!"
[22:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	itd be fun to get a parrot and just teach him how to talk like a pimp
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[22:31]	starstreak	lol
[22:31]	highest_cubist_thrills	then sell him to snoop
[22:32]	TR News	Ewwww. Microsoft sh**hub https://wiki.radxa.com/mw/index.php?title=Taco&diff=8804&oldid=8656
[22:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	"fo shizzle! fo shizzle!"
[22:32]	TR Bot	 Difference between revisions of "Taco" - Radxa Wiki
[22:32]	starstreak	when i was a kid, someone down the street had a parrot.. we were outside and could hear it copy us so we started swearing and it was hilarious
[22:32]	TR News	 (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi 
[22:32]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[22:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	probably WONT teach him to say "cracker" so he doesnt get shot
[22:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	all that bird needs to do is call someone a cracker
[22:32]	highest_cubist_thrills	but snoop would laugh his arse off
[22:33]	schestowitz[TR]	did he not rename?
[22:33]	TR News	 (NEW): DIY Raspberry Pi LapPi 2.0 Laptop Kit Is Coming Soon http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/DIY_Raspberry_Pi_LapPi_2_0_Laptop_Kit_Is_Coming_Soon.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/DIY_Raspberry_Pi_LapPi_2_0_Laptop_Kit_Is_Coming_Soon.gmi 
[22:33]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines DIY Raspberry Pi LapPi 2.0 Laptop Kit Is Coming Soon
[22:33]	schestowitz[TR]	snoop lion or something?
[22:33]	schestowitz[TR]	the dog pound is so 90s
[22:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	i heard snoop dogg -> snoop lion but 
[22:33]	highest_cubist_thrills	that probably shows exactly how far behind i am on snoop news
[22:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean
[22:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	snoopy IS a dog
[22:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	like you were roy in the 90s
[22:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	and techrights probably had the same css in the 90s
[22:34]	schestowitz[TR]	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=05sNvN2Yiis
[22:34]	highest_cubist_thrills	but you wouldnt change your name from roy
[22:34]	TR Bot	 Tha Dogg Pound - Let's Play House - Invidious
[22:35]	schestowitz[TR]	the key is dogg, not snoop
[22:35]	schestowitz[TR]	because of the "crew"
[22:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	sure but
[22:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	mmhmm
[22:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	branding doesnt always change
[22:36]	schestowitz[TR]	the artist
[22:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	cheerios has had mostly the same branding since 1952
[22:36]	schestowitz[TR]	i did not know his real name until he died
[22:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	after they changed it from cheeri-oats
[22:36]	schestowitz[TR]	well, cheerios does not mention aunt or uncle or plantation
[22:37]	starstreak	highest_cubist_thrills> and techrights probably had the same css in the 90s <- yeah, the site is formatted for a low res monitor because thats what Roy found for free in the trash
[22:37]	schestowitz[TR]	it works with older machines
[22:37]	schestowitz[TR]	and it's how things are optimised
[22:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	i would have made it flow more
[22:38]	starstreak	all the pictures of roy were also taken on a 1MP camera
[22:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	but its probably got so many moving parts
[22:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	you down with 1mp? yeah you know me!
[22:38]	starstreak	320x240 goodness
[22:38]	TR News	"The FreeBSD Project is proud to have participated in the Google Summer of Code program since its inception in 2005. At the completion of the 2022 season, the Foundation asked a few of our GSoC students to share more about themselves and their experience working with the Project." https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/meet-the-2022-freebsd-google-summer-of-code-students-koichi-imai/
[22:38]	TR Bot	 Meet the 2022 FreeBSD Google Summer of Code Students: Koichi Imai | FreeBSD Foundation
[22:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	1mp is optimised for the classic nes
[22:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	you jump into a brick and it says 1MP
[22:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	and the pixels are fucking HUUUUGE
[22:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	theyre big beautiful pixels
[22:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	if you take a picture of a slope, you can walk up the pixels like stairs
[22:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	try dmt, create a new res in xrandr so you can drop to 320x240
[22:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	then draw with vectors in inkscape, its awesome
[22:42]	highest_cubist_thrills	vectorised pixel art
[22:43]		*gde33 has quit (Quit: KVIrc 5.0.0 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/)
[22:43]	TR News	Some Weaknesses of Gemini gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202210/20221011-some-weaknesses-of-gemini.gmi
[22:44]	starstreak	my virtual server is running now :)
[22:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	nice
[22:44]	TR News	 (NEW): WordPress 6.1 Release Candidate 1 (RC1) Now Available http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/WordPress_6_1_Release_Candidate_1_RC1_Now_Available.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/WordPress_6_1_Release_Candidate_1_RC1_Now_Available.gmi 
[22:44]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines WordPress 6.1 Release Candidate 1 (RC1) Now Available
[22:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	see jay
[22:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	see jay run
[22:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	see jay run dns server
[22:44]	highest_cubist_thrills	see jay dns
[22:45]	starstreak	the cjdns meshnet is called hyperboria and its great :)
[22:45]	highest_cubist_thrills	you just chose it because its called hyperboria
[22:46]	starstreak	i think thats from Conan?
[22:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	no check out the wp article
[22:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean i dunno originally
[22:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	it got weirder than that
[22:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	put anything on the internet, wait 20 years
[22:47]	highest_cubist_thrills	itll get weirder
[22:48]	highest_cubist_thrills	works on people too
[22:51]	TR News	 (NEW): Arduino Projects: Art and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Arduino_Projects_Art_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/Arduino_Projects_Art_and_More.gmi 
[22:51]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Arduino Projects: Art and More
[22:51]	TR News	UK gov. does not release COVID-19 data it already has anyway. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BXCcJMPqzdA
[22:52]	TR Bot	 UK data with glaring omissions - Invidious
[22:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.93 k/sec., IPFS upstream 103.20 average k/sec., average swarm size 135.40
[22:59]	TR News	'Linux' Foundation does not care about Linux, it cares about money, and sometimes working against Linux makes Zemlin at al the most money. Same for GPL, the licence of Linux.
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[23:02]	TR News	A Beginners Guide to Web Scraping Using Python - KDnuggets https://www.kdnuggets.com/2022/10/beginner-guide-web-scraping-python.html Source: KDnuggets | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.kdnuggets.com/2022/10/beginner-guide-web-scraping-python.html
[23:02]	TR Bot	Beginners Guide to Web Scraping Using Python - KDnuggets
[23:02]	TR News	Perl Weekly Challenge 186: Zip List and Unicode Makeover http://blogs.perl.org/users/laurent_r/2022/10/perl-weekly-challenge-186-zip-list-and-unicode-makeover.html
[23:02]	TR Bot	Weekly Challenge 186: Zip List and Unicode Makeover | laurent_r [blogs.perl.org]
[23:07]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/11/today_s_howtos.2.gmi 
[23:07]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[23:10]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: Mandy's doing a little better today.
[23:11]	DaemonFC	He finally ate something.
[23:11]	schestowitz[TR]	what happeend?
[23:11]	DaemonFC	I told him I'd go pick up anything he wanted to eat and he told me hamburgers from McDonalds.
[23:11]	DaemonFC	Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, bivalent.
[23:11]	DaemonFC	This is about how he reacted to the others. Had to take like a day off work in addition to his normal day off.
[23:12]	DaemonFC	I basically slept and slept after mine. But I perked up enough to go to his friend's birthday party and I'm feeling like myself again.
[23:12]	schestowitz[TR]	sounds like more harm than good at this stage
[23:13]	schestowitz[TR]	risk/cost benefit
[23:13]	schestowitz[TR]	how much protection do you get for it?
[23:13]	schestowitz[TR]	and at what cost?
[23:13]	schestowitz[TR]	see my latest articles on this
[23:13]	DaemonFC	The South China Morning Post has country by country vaccine stats. They list like 95% vaccinated in China. But it's with CommieVac, from the people who brought their soldiers food poisoned rotting MREs. (Sinovac) 
[23:13]	schestowitz[TR]	many people in yoiur age range are dying
[23:13]	schestowitz[TR]	not of covid-19
[23:13]	schestowitz[TR]	but of something unknown
[23:13]	schestowitz[TR]	10% more deaths in this age bracket
[23:13]	DaemonFC	But when you live there, you do what you're told. Even if they can't maintain quality control and start injecting you with live virus by mistake because they can't ensure it's attenuated.
[23:13]	DaemonFC	:)
[23:14]	DaemonFC	MinceR: ^
[23:14]	DaemonFC	The Commies shut down a vaccine clinic in Hong Kong for a note on the door saying ask for Pfizer and don't use Sinovac.
[23:14]	DaemonFC	I wonder what happened to the people who did that. :)
[23:14]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: btw, such a reaction to a fourth dose
[23:14]	schestowitz[TR]	assuming it's similar to prior ones
[23:14]	schestowitz[TR]	similar, if not the same as some
[23:15]	schestowitz[TR]	suggests not so much good immunity acquired
[23:15]	schestowitz[TR]	and sure, it's synthetic
[23:15]	MinceR	maybe they got "re-educated"
[23:15]	schestowitz[TR]	but it still have adverse effects
[23:15]	MinceR	or maybe they just "disappeared"
[23:15]	schestowitz[TR]	in bags
[23:15]	DaemonFC	CommieVac obviously didn't get it under control in China or they wouldn't still have entire cities locked down and basically nobody allowed to come in.
[23:15]	schestowitz[TR]	MinceR: dying of covid-19 is defaming the government
[23:15]	schestowitz[TR]	it makes it look bad
[23:15]	DaemonFC	Even with 95.8% "fully" CommieVac'd.
[23:15]	DaemonFC	MinceR: ^
[23:16]	DaemonFC	Putler has made such a mess in Russia that COVID is not really on anyone's radar anymore because the Russian men under 60 are dying 500-600 per day in Ukraine.
[23:17]	frog	DaemonFC: I never understood how any vaccination would benefit to gain _immunity_, because it was spreading and infecting everyone anyway
[23:17]	DaemonFC	That's when they're not accidentally blowing up their own bridge with a series of their own fuel transports.
[23:17]	DaemonFC	Or "tossing a cigarette butt" into an ammo depot (that's Putler's story and he's sticking to it).
[23:17]	frog	DaemonFC: in germany the argument was any vaccination would prevent severe symptoms _only_, and it wouldn't prevent any infection
[23:17]	MinceR	aggi doesn't understand how the immune system works, so he substitutes his flawed understanding of language for that
[23:17]	DaemonFC	Or crashing their own fighter jets *and* having the Russian ejector seat fail to so the pilots die.
[23:18]	DaemonFC	Or accidentally sending cruise missiles astray into Russian villages.
[23:18]	DaemonFC	:)
[23:19]	frog	how is this supposed to be funny deserving a smiley?
[23:19]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]: The reason some people have initial reactions that are quite bad to a vaccine is the innate immune system reacting to it.
[23:19]	DaemonFC	Before the adaptive immune system does its thing, which is the intended result.
[23:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-10.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-11.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[23:21]	DaemonFC	The good news is that the innate immune response usually dies down in a couple days or so and then your adaptive immune response kicks in and starts building up specific antibodies and B cells that stick around and they can start manufacturing those antibodies again for a while.
[23:21]	DaemonFC	Perhaps even several years.
[23:21]	DaemonFC	The flu vaccines aren't very good at generating a long term immune reaction.
[23:21]	frog	MinceR: it's unrelated to my understanding, because i am citing what experts said, which slightly contradicts other wild claims here
[23:22]	MinceR	frog: oh yes, i know your idea of what an "expert" is
[23:22]	DaemonFC	6 months later, your adaptive immune system has basically lost most of its memory of those flu strains, and you have to take it again next year anyway due to that and more mutations of the flu.
[23:22]	frog	and the experts said, those vaccinations were intended to prevent severe symptoms, and couldn't otherwise prevent any spreading
[23:22]	DaemonFC	COVID-19 vaccines are being updated due to mutations of concern.
[23:22]	schestowitz[TR]	<DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR]: The reason some people have initial reactions that are quite bad to a vaccine is the innate immune system reacting to it.
[23:22]	frog	MinceR: i got a list of names of them, which are employees of german government institutions of health care here
[23:22]	MinceR	afaik influenzaviruses are pretty good at mutating
[23:22]	DaemonFC	So it's basically like a "once every so often antivirus update" for your computer, right?
[23:22]	schestowitz[TR]	never happens to me with flu and hapa shots
[23:22]	MinceR	probably in part because their genome is in multiple pieces
[23:23]	DaemonFC	You need a patch so it recognizes new malware.
[23:23]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR]never happens to me with flu and hapa shots
[23:23]	DaemonFC	I had a really awful sore arm after the Prevnar (pneumonia) shot.
[23:23]	DaemonFC	I'd still rather have that than pneumonia again.
[23:24]	schestowitz[TR]	I cannot remember ever being tired or unwell after a vaccine
[23:24]	schestowitz[TR]	ever
[23:24]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe as a baby... so I would not remember
[23:24]	DaemonFC	There's a good business in vaccines because there's a whole heap 'o nasty shit out there.
[23:25]	DaemonFC	But the COVID-19 shots are not a walk in the park and a silver bullet like mjg59_ would say.
[23:25]	DaemonFC	They just aren't.
[23:25]	DaemonFC	They're a very awful vaccine as far as side effects go.
[23:25]	schestowitz[TR]	they are not even 2 years old
[23:25]	DaemonFC	And only somewhat effective.
[23:25]	schestowitz[TR]	since experiments began
[23:25]	schestowitz[TR]	for current products
[23:25]	schestowitz[TR]	usually takes 5-15 years to develop and test
[23:25]	schestowitz[TR]	but we live in dictatorsial times
[23:26]	schestowitz[TR]	clinical trials are thrown in an ashtray of history
[23:26]	schestowitz[TR]	now they "update" shots and don't even test the outcome
[23:26]	schestowitz[TR]	they just throw it on some animals for a couple monthns.. APPROVED
[23:26]	MinceR	11 231030 <@MinceR> russians serving putler
[23:26]	MinceR	forgot to include those serving other dictators in this
[23:26]	schestowitz[TR]	the tests and audits are done by firms with fiancial conflicts of ionterest
[23:27]	schestowitz[TR]	connected to the sales
[23:27]	schestowitz[TR]	but "Emergency", so who cars
[23:27]	DaemonFC	Well, the "anti-vax" crowd. The real one, not the "I have a concern about COVID-19 shots as a one off exception." appeal to stupid people and emotion using a bunch of appeal to the absurd. Like, things that don't imply anything particularly bad.
[23:27]	schestowitz[TR]	and then they have a go at it with monkeypox
[23:27]	DaemonFC	"Look at how many shots they want to give your baby! OMG!"
[23:27]	schestowitz[TR]	you don't heard about itr anymoree do you?
[23:27]	schestowitz[TR]	must be the vaccines
[23:27]	schestowitz[TR]	vaccinating the gays "solved" it
[23:27]	DaemonFC	I didn't get the MonkeyPox shot.
[23:27]	schestowitz[TR]	amazing
[23:28]	DaemonFC	I educated myself about it and decided that the risk of the vaccine was there and that the risk of MonkeyPox was a one in a billion thing.
[23:28]	DaemonFC	So there was no reason to get the vaccine. That vaccine.
[23:28]	schestowitz[TR]	btw, china has lockdowns again
[23:28]	schestowitz[TR]	I don't havew to even tell you
[23:28]	DaemonFC	Hepatitis isn't one in a billion.
[23:28]	schestowitz[TR]	I think it's in mainstream news
[23:28]	schestowitz[TR]	after so many vaccinated, they claim
[23:29]	schestowitz[TR]	so expect more shortages
[23:29]	DaemonFC	There's active outbreaks going on all over the US right now, but particularly in the midwest.
[23:29]	DaemonFC	Guess where I am.
[23:29]	schestowitz[TR]	"supply chain"
[23:29]	schestowitz[TR]	hence, price increases ... competition for limited resources
[23:29]	DaemonFC	Xi's bizarre lockdowns.
[23:29]	DaemonFC	They make no sense, economically.
[23:30]	DaemonFC	China is scaring away large corporations that want predictable manufacturing.
[23:30]	schestowitz[TR]	they seem to mostly hurt the west
[23:30]	schestowitz[TR]	where the economy si ALREADY sccreaming
[23:30]	DaemonFC	So they're pouring out of China as fast as they can bring capacity up anywhere else.
[23:30]	schestowitz[TR]	over price of energy, debt, foreclosure crisis...
[23:30]	DaemonFC	And Xi ends up hurting working age Chinese more than anything else.
[23:30]	DaemonFC	There's layoffs like China hasn't seen before going on right now and factories closing forever.
[23:31]	DaemonFC	Because dictatorships behave unpredictably, and businesses want to get out of there before they can't get car tires or something anymore.
[23:32]	DaemonFC	Yes, energy is another problem that businesses realize is only going to get worse.
[23:32]	schestowitz[TR]	ukraine stopped energy exports
[23:32]	DaemonFC	froghow is this supposed to be funny deserving a smiley?
[23:32]	schestowitz[TR]	after rht latest bombings by russia over a thousands towns and villages don'thave electricity
[23:32]	schestowitz[TR]	techuser is offline
[23:33]	DaemonFC	When the Russians accidentally blow themselves up, and something like this happens weekly, almost?
[23:33]	schestowitz[TR]	he might be among those left without power
[23:33]	schestowitz[TR]	I hope he is safe
[23:33]	MinceR	this was, of course, preventable
[23:33]	DaemonFC	The Russians haven't been particularly cautious with their communications.
[23:33]	MinceR	but the west isn't willing to bomb orcland to smithereens before even more innocents are sacrificed
[23:34]	DaemonFC	There have been numerous instances of things like, Russian artillery firing at a group of Russian tanks or something.
[23:34]	MinceR	and before putler gets even more chances to harm us all
[23:34]	DaemonFC	They've had a lot of "friendly fire" incidents.
[23:34]	MinceR	DaemonFC: they probably figure there's nothing of value to lose
[23:34]	bnchs	hi
[23:34]	MinceR	they don't value their soldiers, they don't value their citizens
[23:34]	DaemonFC	They run away so fast that Ukraine has secured more tanks, APCs, and some other things from Russia than from the West.
[23:35]	MinceR	they hardly have any resources to operate their vehicles
[23:35]	MinceR	they're allegedly running out of ammo
[23:35]	DaemonFC	I think they said they got like 350 some tanks from the West but they captured over 450 from the Russians.
[23:35]	MinceR	their morale is (understandably) shitty
[23:35]	DaemonFC	Turn them around and shoot Russians with their own tank.
[23:35]	DaemonFC	LOL
[23:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	 <MinceR> but the west isn't willing to bomb orcland to smithereens before even more innocents are sacrificed <- they werent willing to do much in wwii either, at least for a while
[23:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	fsvo west
[23:35]	MinceR	orcish soldiers pretty much are just marched into ukraine to die for nothing
[23:35]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean the western west at least
[23:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	the wildly opportunistic west
[23:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	churchhill was a bit of a cunt as well
[23:36]	DaemonFC	MinceR: The Russians had to pull out so fast they didn't bother sabotaging their equipment.
[23:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	it was just business with him
[23:36]	DaemonFC	Normally you drop a few grenades into the tank and slam the hatch and run if you have to abandon it.
[23:36]	highest_cubist_thrills	same as today
[23:37]	MinceR	DaemonFC: or you have orcs build it :>
[23:37]	DaemonFC	But Russian soldiers aren't very good, are they?
[23:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	politicians dont get into office for giving a shit
[23:37]	highest_cubist_thrills	they get into office for serving their real bosses
[23:37]	DaemonFC	MinceR: The United States almost always succeeds in blowing up equipment it has to abandon.
[23:37]	DaemonFC	Especially if it's classified.
[23:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	after they have a little pageant thats more like pop idol in its honesty every few years
[23:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	i mean the industry gets whoever they want
[23:38]	DaemonFC	I'm just saying, the Russians have grenades don't they?
[23:38]	highest_cubist_thrills	but just to make interesting, theres a vote, why not
[23:39]	DaemonFC	Shouldn't be too hard to damage the crew cabin of the tank bad enough that they won't be able to repair it anytime soon.
[23:39]	MinceR	do they?
[23:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	just make sure everyone with a chance is good enough and let the people decide who will sell them out for a while
[23:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	"everyones getting fucked tonight-- but you can vote on who fucks you next!"
[23:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	"oh wow! i like that one!"
[23:39]	highest_cubist_thrills	"bend over!"
[23:40]	DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gosling_Emacs
[23:40]	TR Bot	 Gosling Emacs - Wikipedia
[23:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	spider jerusalem put it a lot more colourfully.
[23:40]	DaemonFC	"Gosling Emacs was especially noteworthy because of the effective redisplay code,[4] which used a dynamic programming technique to solve the classical string-to-string correction problem. The algorithm was quite sophisticated; that section of the source was headed by a skull-and-crossbones in ASCII art,[5] warning any would-be improver that even if they thought they understood how the...
[23:40]	DaemonFC	...display code worked, they probably did not.[6]"
[23:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	probably because hes written by warren ellis
[23:40]	highest_cubist_thrills	warren ellis once made eric raymond wet his pants
[23:41]	highest_cubist_thrills	i dont know if thats true, but hes a way better writer
[23:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	fucking ancient: "Recent Debian distributions seem to have utterly broken fonts for GTK+ v1.2. Please, do NOT report bugs dealing with weird/badly looking fonts under Debian: this is NOT an Xdialog bug but rather deals with how screwed up is Debian's fonts system."
[23:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	debian has a history of forcibly deprecating gnome competitors
[23:55]	highest_cubist_thrills	especially older ones
[23:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	http://xdialog.free.fr/
[23:56]	TR Bot	 Xdialog
[23:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	(i said it was ancient)
[23:56]	highest_cubist_thrills	i didnt even think xdialog was gtk. i figured it was too old for that :)
[23:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	it still links to freshmeat
[23:57]	highest_cubist_thrills	freshmeat is a misnomer now
[23:59]	highest_cubist_thrills	"Still about Debian: given how rigid is the (IMHO stupid) Debian policy about packaging, and how stubborn are the Debian maintainers, I do NOT and will NEVER support any Debian-related problem" :)