●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Friday, December 11, 2020 ●● ● Dec 11 [00:08] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:15] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:26] *jpli has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) [00:27] *jpli (~quassel@2806:106e:24:3e42::3) has joined #techrights [00:37] DaemonFC[m] Ransomware protection from Microsoft Defender blocks Fallout: New Vegas from creating saved games. [00:39] DaemonFC[m] It seems to block attempts to write anything to various folders by untrusted programs as a way to prevent malware from encrypting your files in there. [00:40] DaemonFC[m] But older games do things like leaving saves in the user's Documents folder. [00:40] DaemonFC[m] You can turn it off, or you can allow an exception for a certain application. ● Dec 11 [01:07] DaemonFC[m] Heh, blocks LibreOffice from saving in the Documents folder too. Have to override that. [01:11] DaemonFC[m] Seems all Controlled Folder Access does is set those folders to read only and then allows signed applications and ones excepted by the user to access them. [01:12] DaemonFC[m] https://www.cybersecurity-insiders.com/windows-10s-controlled-folder-access-wont-protect-your-data/ [01:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cybersecurity-insiders.com | Windows 10s Controlled Folder Access Wont Protect Your Data - Cybersecurity Insiders [01:15] DaemonFC[m] https://www.nyotron.com/collateral/Nyotron-Windows10-Report-April-2018.pdf [01:15] *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/SldNcDbmTTPJxSfYSnmGSpxE/message.txt > [01:24] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [01:58] *jpli has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) [01:59] *jpli (~quassel@2806:106e:24:3e42::3) has joined #techrights ● Dec 11 [02:31] oiaohm https://kotaku.com/proposed-u-s-law-could-slap-twitch-streamers-with-felo-1845846012 Hmmm [02:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kotaku.com | Proposed U.S. Law Could Slap Twitch Streamers With Felonies For Broadcasting Copyrighted Material [02:36] search_social LOL [02:46] Ariadne starlink is so much better than viasat even if it was down all day [02:56] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) ● Dec 11 [03:33] *jpli has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) [03:35] *jpli (~quassel@2806:106e:24:3e42::3) has joined #techrights [03:43] *jpli has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) [03:44] *jpli (~quassel@2806:106e:24:3e42::3) has joined #techrights ● Dec 11 [04:34] *swaggboi has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [04:34] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights [04:53] *Chaekyung has quit (Remote host closed the connection) ● Dec 11 [06:05] *esaym153 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [06:16] schestowitz Ariadne: http://pleroma.fr/ still down [06:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ http://pleroma.fr/ ) [06:16] schestowitz I assume href is on the case [06:17] schestowitz some people ask me why I vanished from fediverse ● Dec 11 [07:07] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: May we live long and die out | http://vhemt.org/) [07:21] *xvx has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [07:36] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights ● Dec 11 [08:26] *notanamber (~luca@host-79-6-210-200.business.telecomitalia.it) has joined #techrights [08:32] notanamber Hello to all terminusDB changes license.. there is a post explaining the reasons [08:32] notanamber https://terminusdb.com/blog/2020/12/08/we-love-gplv3-but-are-switching-license-to-apache-2-0-terminusdb/ [08:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-We Love GPLv3, but are Switching License to Apache 2.0: TerminusDB | Graph Database Blog - News and Tutorials from TerminusDB [08:37] schestowitz hi [08:37] schestowitz yes, I linked to that yesterday [08:38] Ariadne https://blog.cloudlinux.com/announcing-open-sourced-community-driven-rhel-fork-by-cloudlinux [08:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.cloudlinux.com | Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux [08:38] schestowitz there are several [08:38] schestowitz as demand grows [08:38] Ariadne yeah this is just the latest one [08:38] schestowitz RHEL seems like a bad idea [08:39] schestowitz with attempts to further... to discourage "free riders" [08:39] schestowitz that's how IBM sees them [08:39] schestowitz systemd might be one example [08:39] schestowitz hard to support/debug it [08:39] schestowitz Ariadne: do you want to have a go at migration this weekend? [08:40] Ariadne yes [08:40] schestowitz cool [08:40] Ariadne we need to do it [08:40] schestowitz yes, I know, I'll make extra time [08:40] schestowitz keep track of hours you spend on it, eventually we'll compensate you for it all (we should!) ● Dec 11 [09:34] *asusbox (~rianne@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [09:34] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [09:37] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [09:37] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) ● Dec 11 [10:08] schestowitz "The CSC has requested the Union to publish this document." [10:08] schestowitz wow, suepo still needs to help csc issue EPO documents [10:08] schestowitz the Office censors them [10:10] *tr_guest|44 (0ea96685@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.14.169.102.133) has joined #techrights [10:12] *tr_guest|44 has quit (Client Quit) [10:14] *mmu_man (~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [10:25] Ariadne hmm, this starlink modem complains about obstructions during parts of the day [10:32] schestowitz sometimes I forget how awful it was when I used baud-level modems [10:32] Ariadne oh, starlink is much faster than viasat. [10:32] Ariadne ~70ms ping to the colo [10:33] schestowitz Nowadays we stream nature videos all day long [10:33] schestowitz using invidious [10:33] Ariadne sometimes up to 100mbps down [10:33] Ariadne usually around 10mbps up [10:33] Ariadne no data cap [10:33] Ariadne viasat is... maybe 12mbps down on a good day, and limited to 600kbps after 60GB transfer [10:34] Ariadne of course, starlink is owned by elon musk which is meh [10:34] Ariadne but [10:34] Ariadne can't argue with the results [10:35] Ariadne it goes down sometimes though, i think its because they don't have all satellites covering wyoming yet [10:38] schestowitz /s/owned/grifted/ [10:49] *tdemin has quit (Quit: leaving) [10:49] *tdemin (~tdemin@lan.tdem.in) has joined #techrights [10:51] *tdemin has quit (Client Quit) [10:52] *tdemin (~tdemin@lan.tdem.in) has joined #techrights [10:53] *birkoff has quit (Remote host closed the connection) ● Dec 11 [11:06] Ariadne schestowitz: i'd rather he get the FCC funding than charter communications [11:06] Ariadne he is a dickhead billionaire but he at least delivers [11:06] Ariadne charter would take the money and then do nothing with it, meanwhile rural internet is still shit :) [11:10] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-cfwkjjgtllfikpjh) has joined #techrights [11:14] *tdemin has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [11:19] *tdemin (~tdemin@lan.tdem.in) has joined #techrights [11:36] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:52] *inky (inky@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/norayr) has joined #techrights [11:52] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) ● Dec 11 [12:08] *vZS1 (~vZS1@92.40.183.109.threembb.co.uk) has joined #techrights [12:15] *vZS1 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:15] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [12:22] *GNUmoon has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:22] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [12:31] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [12:52] vZS1 schestowitz: I got the new UPS set up. That means the IPFS node should be up pretty much all the time (apart from maintenance). [12:58] chovy howdy [12:59] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights ● Dec 11 [13:07] *tr_guest|90659 (05945514@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.148.85.20) has joined #techrights [13:10] tr_guest|90659 Bristows, litigation agenda in the UK, at it again. Perhaps the failure of the UK led them to exploring other pastures http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/12/11/neurim-and-flynn-v-mylan-a-case-put-to-bed/ [13:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Neurim and Flynn v Mylan - A case put to bed? - Kluwer Patent Blog [13:11] *tdemin has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [13:12] tr_guest|90659 Melatonex advertisement for 3 mg of melatonin as a sleeping aid was dismissed as mere advertising puff [13:18] *tr_guest|90659 has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [13:23] MinceR (cat) (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/13/029cc94afb4efa7f.mp4 [13:59] MinceR http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=2133 [13:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffn.nodwick.com | Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 08/04/2020 ● Dec 11 [14:03] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.108) has joined #techrights [14:21] MinceR http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=2134 [14:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffn.nodwick.com | Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 08/06/2020 [14:22] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:22] *xvx has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [14:25] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.105) has joined #techrights [14:46] *birkoff has quit (Quit: Goodbye) [14:57] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights ● Dec 11 [15:01] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:02] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:08] MinceR https://assets.amuniversal.com/f0b62f30556f01379a54005056a9545d ( https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-05-29 ) [15:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Never Stop Dreaming - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2019-05-29 | Dilbert by Scott Adams [15:11] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-tmsquiphpjohmyqm) has joined #techrights [15:18] *inky (inky@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/norayr) has joined #techrights [15:29] *esaym153 (~esaym153@2001:470:b965:2:208:a1ff:fe05:bf2a) has joined #techrights [15:34] MinceR (cat) https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/12/5a411f62788ed76f.jpg [15:36] *notanamber has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [15:39] MinceR https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo9jrrAWMAEXMZ_?format=png&name=orig ● Dec 11 [16:00] *esaym153 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [16:12] *esaym153 (~esaym153@net153.net) has joined #techrights [16:44] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:44] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [16:58] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egEraZP9yXQ [16:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How Many Holes Does a Human Have? - YouTube ● Dec 11 [17:02] schestowitz [12:52] schestowitz: I got the new UPS set up. That means the IPFS node should be up pretty much all the time (apart from maintenance). [17:02] schestowitz Make sure it's a good UPS that doesn't so a oops when you most need it [17:02] *schestowitz heard stories about it.. [17:02] schestowitz [11:06] he is a dickhead billionaire but he at least delivers [17:03] schestowitz I recall you boycotting paypal :-) [17:03] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: May we live long and die out | http://vhemt.org/) [17:05] schestowitz MinceR: the Dilbert one is very clever and simple [17:09] *birkoff has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [17:13] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [17:13] Techrights-sec No perma link (16:30 UTC) [17:13] Techrights-sec https://www.nbcnews.com/ [17:13] Techrights-sec " [17:13] Techrights-sec Today, NBC News is devoting its homepage to a special collection of reports that show the loomin [17:13] Techrights-sec g pain of the coronavirus pandemic and the paths that could lead the country out of it. [17:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | How America gave up and how we fight back [17:13] Techrights-sec " [17:13] cybrNaut i boycott PayPal [17:15] cybrNaut but i don't recall Elon Musk having any part of PayPal though, apart from being chummy with rat-bastard scumbag Peter Thiel, who founded PayPal [17:19] vZS1 schestowitz: I did some testing and it seems to work alright [17:20] vZS1 But only time will tell [17:20] schestowitz let me find the ref [17:20] schestowitz some gentoo guy [17:20] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-iozmhqedhlotdfyh) has joined #techrights [17:22] schestowitz I give up [17:22] schestowitz can't find it easily, it was months ago [17:22] vZS1 Okay so [17:22] vZS1 PSA [17:23] vZS1 The Sun is promoting the Covid vaccine [17:23] vZS1 That's a nope [17:24] vZS1 www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtviu3xnRd4 [17:24] schestowitz which vaccine? [17:24] schestowitz I know of experiments, not vaccine [17:24] schestowitz when the clinical trials are over, in the next decade, I may join [17:25] schestowitz until then, let them blame "grandma" when she does with her placebo [17:25] schestowitz *dies [17:27] vZS1 Yeah no. I'm not going to take this [17:32] *LarchOye has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [17:33] schestowitz since you brought it up [17:33] schestowitz let me go on a tangent quickly [17:33] schestowitz any time you reject ANY vaccine you risk being labeled anti-vaxxer [17:33] schestowitz that, however, implies that all vaccines ever in existence of even in testing caused no side effects [17:34] schestowitz as you roughly pointed out the other day, we're pro-vaccine and took vaccination [17:34] schestowitz but not once developed in a few months [17:34] schestowitz and then foisted upon a massive test test because "emergency" [17:34] schestowitz I wrote something related to this recently, inc. http://techrights.org/2020/10/10/bill-gates-in-india/ [17:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Conspiracy Theories Have Successfully Distracted From Perfectly Legitimate and Real Scandals of Bill Gates in India, the Fertile Ground for Unethical Mass Experimentation on Humans | Techrights [17:35] vZS1 I took several vaccines last year [17:35] vZS1 I'm in no way anti-vax [17:35] vZS1 I'm just anti-bullshit [17:35] MinceR what if i prefer x86 to VAX? :> [17:35] schestowitz XRevan86: https://meduza.io/en/news/2020/12/10/rosstat-excess-deaths-in-russia-exceed-138-000-people-since-the-start-of-the-pandemic [17:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [17:36] schestowitz MinceR: VAX is dead [17:36] *Blukunfando (~bkf@62.57.153.77.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #techrights [17:38] vZS1 Weren't MSM/Pfizer made to pay the biggest fine in history for something? [17:38] vZS1 I can't recall where I read that [17:40] vZS1 I found it [17:41] vZS1 news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8234533.sm [17:42] vZS1 s/sm/stm [17:42] vZS1 news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8234533.stm [17:44] schestowitz techrights on pfizer: [17:44] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2010/12/20/pfizer-scandal/ [17:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Wikileaks/Cablegate Sheds Bad Light on Bill Gates Rogue Patent Investments | Techrights [17:45] schestowitz "Pharmaceutical company Pfizer, for example, spent $139bn (112bn) on share buybacks." [17:45] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2019/10/14/the-stupidest-policy-ever/ [17:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Stupidest [Patent/Tax] Policy Ever | Techrights [17:45] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2010/03/22/image-redone-with-cartels/ [17:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Roundup: (Mis)Education With Spin; GAVI, Pfizer, Merck, and the African Ventures | Techrights [17:45] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2009/05/06/the-pharmaceutical-cartel/ [17:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Pharmaceutical Cartel | Techrights [17:45] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2017/09/27/ep-in-court/ [17:45] schestowitz Among more... [17:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | European Patent Expired, But $70,000,000 in Damages | Techrights [17:45] schestowitz We never focused too much on them [17:46] schestowitz vZS1: BTW, if you add http/s, the bot will pick up titles and more irc clients will make these clickable [17:46] schestowitz I cannot open then url abobe [17:46] vZS1 Ah sorry [17:46] schestowitz second one is ok [17:46] schestowitz http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8234533.stm [17:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.bbc.co.uk | BBC NEWS | Business | Pfizer agrees record fraud fine [17:46] vZS1 The first one was a typo [17:46] schestowitz I just notice thrice in the row protocol was omitted [17:46] schestowitz BTW, BBC is corrupt [17:46] schestowitz it's repeatedly bribed by Gates [17:47] schestowitz it's also run by loads of 'former' Microsoft UK execs [17:47] vZS1 Indeed [17:47] schestowitz They do xbox ads as 'articles' this month [17:47] schestowitz xbox 'for education [17:47] vZS1 I just wanted a quick example [17:47] schestowitz not f* raspi [17:47] schestowitz which is made in WaLES [17:47] schestowitz and costs like 10 times less [17:47] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/BBC [17:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | BBC - Techrights [17:47] schestowitz I know TR well enough to link to things to it off the cuff [17:48] vZS1 This whole Pfizer thing looks like a big scam [17:49] schestowitz I don't trust companies thast target old people for hardons [17:49] schestowitz the premium markets [17:49] schestowitz people with money [17:49] schestowitz rather than real needs [17:49] schestowitz fix illnesses in Africa [17:49] schestowitz not much money in it [17:50] schestowitz unless you use them for clinical trials [17:50] schestowitz I will find you a good video on it [17:50] schestowitz Al Jazeera, hang on... [17:50] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/06/16/gatesgate-interlude/ [17:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Is Not Helping Africa or Africans. It Exploits Them. | Techrights [17:50] schestowitz here, watch it, it's short [17:50] schestowitz and hits the nail [17:51] vZS1 Watching now [17:51] schestowitz webm [17:51] schestowitz or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcMrHpLd9C4 [17:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gates Foundation accused of exploiting its leverage in Africa - YouTube [17:52] schestowitz What the lady says there I like because [17:53] schestowitz it's what I had been saying for many years before this video was made [17:53] schestowitz and I wrote a lot about it http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique [17:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights [17:53] *tdemin (~tdemin@lan.tdem.in) has joined #techrights [17:53] schestowitz These articles are read a lot this year because in some senses we were years ahead of time [17:53] schestowitz With defectos [17:54] schestowitz people who blasted me for criticising Gates [17:54] schestowitz after some TV shows brainwashed them [17:54] schestowitz Gates-funded [17:54] schestowitz and now they apologise to me, saying I was right all along [17:54] schestowitz many of the links in these 10+ y-o articles are now broken, but Internet Archive should have most of them copied [17:55] vZS1 schestowitz: you know that charity I told you about? After I linked the E2EE piece I didn't hear anything back from them. And today I saw them promoting the new "vaccine". [17:55] vZS1 Something isn't right [17:56] schestowitz which vaccine? [17:56] schestowitz you mean the UK taxpayers-funded clinical trials for Gates-invested Pfizer? [17:56] schestowitz *(grift) [17:59] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/704991.png ● Dec 11 [18:00] vZS1 Paul isn't happy [18:07] XRevan86 - Are you Christian, Christian? [18:07] XRevan86 - I am not Christian. [18:07] XRevan86 - Are you Christian, what's you name? [18:07] XRevan86 * your [18:08] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz There's a lot of money in COVID-19 vaccines. [18:08] DaemonFC[m] They have the major world governments funding it and guaranteeing that there's enough doses for their own citizens at no cost to them. [18:08] DaemonFC[m] In the US, they aren't responsible if it goes horribly wrong. A government compensation fund is. [18:09] DaemonFC[m] This is better than Viagra for Pfizer. [18:09] schestowitz [18:08] They have the major world governments funding [18:09] schestowitz >taxpayers [18:09] schestowitz against their will at times [18:09] schestowitz and they don't get to decide on who's grifting [18:10] schestowitz Pfizer is just dicking around with national budgets [18:10] schestowitz and the more scared the public becomes, the richer they can become (at the public's expense) [18:10] schestowitz plus, politicians may get kickbacks [18:10] schestowitz we know how companies like Pfizer operate... many kickbacks and regulatory moles [18:22] DaemonFC[m] The Republicans are still trying to overturn the election in the courts. [18:22] DaemonFC[m] Now Texas has tried to go directly to the Supreme Court and ask for a remedy of overturning four other states' elections, which is clearly unconstitutional. [18:22] DaemonFC[m] The Constitution says that states can appoint electors however they want, period. [18:23] DaemonFC[m] If they want to have an election, they can, if they want to pass a state law letting the legislature pick electors, they theoretically could, although none of them have ever tried that and it's flat out illegal in many states for the legislature to get involved. [18:23] DaemonFC[m] Nowhere does it say or even imply that a state that decided how to award its electors is up for review by the Supreme Court, or that another state has standing to challenge their decision. [18:43] schestowitz vZS1: just checked or grepped tr log for past 5 days [18:43] schestowitz 18k hits on txt and ipfs [18:43] schestowitz so it's growing [18:43] schestowitz ipfs: [18:43] schestowitz TotalIn: 57 GB [18:43] schestowitz TotalOut: 23 GB [18:44] schestowitz correct me if I'm wrong, but typically it's me and people who "pin" our CIDs who would serve the shards of data [18:44] schestowitz or is it more stochastic? [18:48] vZS1 It's people that pin. [18:48] vZS1 Otherwise the objects can get GCd [18:52] schestowitz so you are among the distribution sources [18:52] schestowitz thankls [18:53] schestowitz this month we move http/s to another location/server [18:58] DaemonFC[m] That's pretty funny. Microsoft put ads and stuff in Solitaire and the other games that used to be free. [18:58] DaemonFC[m] Wants $10 per month each now. ● Dec 11 [19:01] psydroid They've completely lost it [19:04] psydroid The value of Windows is (now) $0 [19:04] psydroid I noticed they messed with their Snipping Tool too [19:04] MinceR i thought it was negative [19:05] schestowitz yeah, worse [19:05] *aindilis` (~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [19:05] schestowitz psydroid: something they offer incentives (like money or others) to NOT have something else installed [19:05] schestowitz negative pricing [19:05] schestowitz *sometimes [19:05] *aindilis has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [19:06] schestowitz IIRC, they got caught doing that against gnu/linux on EEE PC [19:11] DaemonFC[m] I was reading a review about Microsoft Edge, and someone else noticed how buried the setting to change the search engine was. [19:12] DaemonFC[m] Ironically, unless you know just where to look, you have to use a search to figure out how to change your search. [19:12] schestowitz Re: Unfettered Freedom Ep. 12 [19:12] schestowitz > "Microsoft is starting to change my mind a little bit" [19:12] DaemonFC[m] I don't know what part about freemium games and advertising everywhere is appropriate for a SKU called "Professional Edition". [19:12] schestowitz > [19:12] schestowitz > Bye, DT. [19:12] schestowitz Indeed, if he said it like that. May depend on context though. [19:12] schestowitz Can you give some context? [19:12] schestowitz Before I delete him from RSS... [19:13] MinceR search to find how to fix the search [19:13] MinceR or just use the browser to download a browser [19:13] MinceR classic microshit [19:13] DaemonFC[m] The funniest thing I saw was a Lenovo assistant saying they included fewer bloatware apps to make your experience better, but they recommend you install a list of bloatware apps that don't do anything much until you pay for them, or default to trial mode. [19:14] DaemonFC[m] "We improved your experience and suggest that you degrade it yourself!" [19:14] psydroid "Microsoft is making a serious impact on the contents of my wallet, which made me change my mind about the company and its malware" [19:16] schestowitz btw [19:16] DaemonFC[m] Then there's the "Ransomware Protection" that actual ransomware can trivially bypass if it expects it to be on, but which stops software that legitimately needs to use those folders from writing to them. Windows Store apps get write privileges, but you have to whitelist everything else if Controlled Folder Access is turned on. This breaks, at least, foobar2000 if you installed it outside the store, Fallout games, The [19:16] DaemonFC[m] Elder Scrolls games including Skyrim, and LibreOffice. [19:16] schestowitz this is about DistroTube (DT) [19:16] schestowitz aka Derek Taylor [19:16] schestowitz he mentions Techrights sometimes [19:17] schestowitz but if it's an FSF shirt-wearing lets-out-RMS person who is OK with Microsoft, then it's a noise vector [19:17] schestowitz So I want to know what he said and in what context [19:17] schestowitz I got along with him before [19:17] schestowitz though he's some sort of maniac on politics [19:17] schestowitz like Microsoft [19:17] DaemonFC[m] The whole point of writing to those folders, post-Vista, was that Microsoft implemented User Account Control, which causes an alert if an application tries to write outside a folder the user owns. So the obvious workaround was to use those folders which the user owns, which are now broken by Controlled Folder Access. [19:18] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/06/17/microsoft-firearms-cult/ [19:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Insider: Microsoft is Full of Nationalists and Gun Enthusiasts | Techrights [19:18] schestowitz Microsoft != "liberals" [19:18] DaemonFC[m] Also, neatly bricking competing office suites while leaving their own intact. [19:18] DaemonFC[m] Imagine that. [19:19] DaemonFC[m] While the user can override it and allow LibreOffice to write to the Documents folder, why should they have to? [19:22] *tr_guest|39547 (44ea4b1a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.234.75.26) has joined #techrights [19:23] DaemonFC[m] Must be why it's not turned on by default. It won't stop ransomware, it breaks probably thousands of legitimate programs, and it seems to be one more piece of bullet point engineering on Microsoft's security kabuki theater list, when all it's doing behind the scenes is glorified NTFS read-only switching. [19:23] DaemonFC[m] Microsoft vaguely acknowledged that it's useless but that they have no plans to fix the several known ways around it. [19:25] DaemonFC[m] If there was a Truth in GUIs law, it would be called "Introduce compatibility problems". Or, to quote Microsoft, "The user is supposed to see the problems and suspect that they're bugs in the competitor's version of DOS, and then go out and buy ours.". [19:25] DaemonFC[m] At some point they'll probably switch it on by default and then the user will be confused by all of the breakage and buy Microsoft Office and use Windows Store apps. [19:25] *tr_guest|39547 has quit (Client Quit) [19:26] DaemonFC[m] Probably the easiest way to bypass it is look through the registry for the list of apps the user has allowed through and then use a code injection attack on one of them. [19:26] psydroid They wouldn't be doing this if they didn't see a loss of revenue due to their users switching to alternatives [19:27] DaemonFC[m] Probably not. [19:28] DaemonFC[m] The LibreOffice people made some great improvements to OOXML compatibility in version 7.x, and honestly for most people there will no longer be jarring breakage of visual differences if they open up such a file and edit it. [19:29] DaemonFC[m] So Microsoft has gotten much more aggressive about carpet bombing the user with ads for theirs so that they'll go ahead and buy it and not go looking for something to edit MS Office documents with. [19:30] DaemonFC[m] The fact that it took Microsoft over a decade to comply with the "Strict" version of their OOXML ISO standard is really ridiculous. [19:30] DaemonFC[m] If you do a new standard, there's no legitimate reason why your current software doesn't implement it. [19:31] DaemonFC[m] So the ISO let them shove in a "Transitional" version so that they could Transition to their own standard, a decade later, after polluting the web with garbage that is very poorly documented. [19:31] DaemonFC[m] I think the obvious reason they never supported the Strict version until lately is they knew it would take a while to convince people to use Office 365. [19:32] DaemonFC[m] In the mean time, the way to inflict pain and ensure compliance with upgrade fees is to keep doing what they always did. Tweak their formats a bit so that the old version wouldn't be very useful anymore. [19:33] DaemonFC[m] Office software 20 years ago pretty much did what you needed it to. [19:33] DaemonFC[m] I mean, obviously people were making documents, spreadsheets, and presentations in 2000. [19:33] DaemonFC[m] But with these useless upgrades, Microsoft is sitting on a pile of cash and the skulls of (most of) their computer. [19:34] DaemonFC[m] *competitors [19:34] DaemonFC[m] I remember when I was younger and my dad was complaining about just having to install new versions of Office. [19:34] *kupi (uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zcsljpeaozocdwya) has joined #techrights [19:35] DaemonFC[m] Because while Thomson was paying for site licenses for their employees, they were not paying for new versions of Windows that you needed to run them on, and the new computers to run that. [19:46] psydroid I would expect my employer to pay for my work computer and take care of all the software running on it unless something else was explicitly agreed upon [19:47] DaemonFC[m] Microsoft has resorted to selling Windows cheaply before. They had a $29 update disc to Windows Me but it would only work if you ran the setup program from Windows 98. [19:48] DaemonFC[m] So if you needed to reinstall the OS you had to install Windows 98 all over and then wait a couple hours for Windows Me to install over it. [19:49] MinceR they probably preferred for you to buy Backdoors ME again in that case :> [19:49] DaemonFC[m] I had a program that started the computer up in DOS and made a snapshot of the whole system, and it could recover the disk to that state in like 10 minutes. [19:50] DaemonFC[m] So as soon as Me was done and you were finished de-crapifying everything that came from the OEM and updated your drivers, you could make a snapshot. [19:52] DaemonFC[m] Believe it or not, Microsoft didn't shut down the Windows Me Internet Games server until this summer. [19:53] DaemonFC[m] Thought it was odd since Me was unsupported after 2006. [19:54] schestowitz Ariadne: #AlpineLinux 3.12.2 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/145332 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2020/12/11/#latest [19:54] DaemonFC[m] So buying that actually didn't gain you any support lifecycle over anything 9x. [19:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Alpine 3.12.2 released | Tux Machines [19:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [19:54] schestowitz Ariadne: Until pleroma.site is back I'm posting my fediverse stuff in http://schestowitz.com/2020/12/11/#latest [19:54] MinceR (cat) https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/12/ad7817936c230f2a.jpg [19:57] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: The government enabled Facebook to get as bad and big as they are now. [19:57] DaemonFC[m] Now they're doing this antitrust thing. Facebook even said they grew this big with the blessing of the FTC approving all of their acquisitions so far. [19:57] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) ● Dec 11 [20:05] schestowitz Facebook has been an extension for spy agencies, among other forces [20:05] schestowitz it still serves as Microsoft's data repository [20:05] schestowitz Microsoft gets direct access to all/most of the data [20:06] *aindilis` has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [20:07] *aindilis (~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [20:15] *inky (~inky@141.136.77.3) has joined #techrights [20:24] Ariadne grr, obstructed view again [20:24] oiaohm DaemonFC[m]: really with OOXML is been a horrible choice at times either open in Libreoffice with broken format or not open in MS Office at all. [20:34] schestowitz XRevan86: https://meduza.io/en/news/2020/12/10/levada-center-youth-support-for-putin-drops-to-20-percent [20:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [20:37] Ariadne when the modem complains about obstructed view, speeds tank down to ~1mbps [20:37] Ariadne :( [20:38] Ariadne i have ordered some bulk outdoor cat7 plenum cable [20:38] Ariadne hopefully that allows me to position the outdoor part in a better place [20:39] Ariadne though i think the maximum length for PoE + cat7 is 100m [20:40] XRevan86 schestowitz: Blasphemous survey, no wonder they got the "foreign agent" status %). [20:42] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/news/2019/08/10/state-pollsters-will-now-publish-unflattering-survey-data-about-putin-less-often now that's better [20:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [20:45] schestowitz Ariadne: so Zoom is out of the question for you :-) [20:45] schestowitz XRevan86: elected, but not popular [20:45] schestowitz EPO president is not even elected, it's all rigged [20:46] schestowitz and so you end up with single-digit approval rate among staff [20:46] schestowitz XRevan86: technically it's foreign [20:46] schestowitz riga-based iirc [20:47] schestowitz because they drove media to exile [20:47] schestowitz nobody wants to end up on a plane to Germany in a coma [20:48] XRevan86 schestowitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levada_Center Levada Centre [20:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Levada Center - Wikipedia [20:49] XRevan86 The government took control over VTsIOM in 2003, former employees founded Levada Centre [20:49] schestowitz "It is named after its founder, the first Russian professor of sociology Yuri Levada (19302006). The Center traces back its history to 1987 when the All-Union Public Opinion Research Center (VTsIOM) was founded under the leadership of academician Tatyana Zaslavskaya. Being one of the largest Russian research companies[citation needed], the Levada Center regularly conducts its own and commissioned polling and marketing research. " [20:50] schestowitz This is similar to EPO [20:50] schestowitz how the regime 'steals' the narrative [20:50] schestowitz or takes control of what used to have credibility [20:50] XRevan86 You know, 2003, three years about Putin came to power. [20:52] XRevan86 The good-old Bolt Tightening [20:55] liberty_box https://betanews.com/2020/12/11/open-source-vs-open-core-qa/ [20:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Open source vs open core -- the development battle you may never have heard of [Q&A] ● Dec 11 [21:23] vZS1 schestowitz: distrotube is noise. Nothing of substance. [21:28] schestowitz it's hard to find substance these days [21:29] schestowitz esp. in so-called 'news' sites [21:29] schestowitz i mean, look at today's [21:29] schestowitz no signal, noise only [21:29] schestowitz and howtos [21:34] psydroid the only question that is really on my mind is if the public internet was always supposed to become what it is now or if it has actually been steered in a different direction from what it was supposed to be [21:40] vZS1 Don't think it was supposed to be anything really [21:41] vZS1 And I don't really think the internet is public. You need to pay for an internet connection. [21:43] *LarchOye (nonmoose@spaceweed.spacetechnology.net) has joined #techrights [21:49] psydroid So we are paying an entrance fee to join a network full of noise just because we aren't allowed to directly connect our computers to one another [21:55] vZS1 Pretty much ● Dec 11 [23:44] *guysoft42 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:44] *guysoft42 (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00::442) has joined #techrights