●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, March 12, 2022 ●● ● Mar 12 [00:00] activelow few days later, "dictator Putin" ordered nuclear forces on alert, level2 [00:00] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:00] *psymin_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:00] activelow *piece [00:00] schestowitz activelow: ukraine blesses a wasre of already scarce energy in twinter [00:01] activelow reports about ukraine were their energy consumption was excessive, for various reasons, including outdated heating installations and old industry [00:02] schestowitz well, now they have even lessened capacity [00:02] *x_ is now known as kingoffrance [00:02] schestowitz do you want people running rigs to burn up electricity for an illusion of "wealth"? [00:02] schestowitz more so during war? [00:02] iphonix but they got lots of nuclear plants [00:02] schestowitz maybe go out to the garden [00:02] schestowitz grow some food [00:02] schestowitz phebus: fewer now :/ [00:03] MinceR well, if they need to heat their place in winter and it's too could outside for a heat pump to be efficient, they might as well generate heat by mining cryptocurrency :> [00:03] schestowitz they're being shelled, abandoned, taken over by the Putler forces [00:03] schestowitz activelow: there are more efficient ways to generate and disperse heat [00:03] schestowitz 100 lightbumbs aren't a heater [00:04] schestowitz *lightbulbs [00:04] activelow schestowitz: ? [00:04] MinceR incandescent bulbs dissipate the energy they consume mostly as heat [00:04] schestowitz and the more energy-efficient buls barely emit any heat at all [00:04] schestowitz *bulbs [00:05] schestowitz heating coils also emit light [00:05] schestowitz you might say they "waste" energy on light [00:06] activelow anyway, i am almost certain, the Bitcoin move of Ukraine in parallel to their begging for weapons supplies was the final heart stroke for peace [00:06] activelow or none thereof [00:07] activelow this was the final spark to ignite it [00:07] schestowitz ignote the war? [00:07] schestowitz the war is 8 years old [00:07] schestowitz russian invasion started with crimea [00:07] schestowitz this is a second and more extensive invasion [00:08] schestowitz some of this was ignited ages ago when flirting with NATO and EU [00:08] schestowitz they just underestimated Putin's temper [00:08] DaemonFC schestowitz, I'm getting better Internet speeds on T-Mobile Home Internet since they killed off the leftovers of the Sprint network. [00:09] schestowitz why mobile? [00:09] schestowitz afaik spring is only towers [00:09] DaemonFC They had all that 3G and CDMA crap still running. [00:09] MinceR Spring is a free realtime strategy game engine :> [00:10] schestowitz Spring Theory [00:10] schestowitz String [00:10] DaemonFC They shut it down so there's actually nothing running CDMA left in the United States now. [00:10] schestowitz *String [00:10] schestowitz anyway, I keep reading how awful and expensive US internet is [00:10] schestowitz which is funny because [00:10] schestowitz 1) the Internet started in the US [00:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [00:10] schestowitz 2) the Internet is still controlled by the US [00:11] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/814678.jpg [00:11] Alternative link Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/814678.jpg [00:12] kingoffrance "So I guess consistency won't be found today" no it will not, because noone agrees what "state" means. ""this labor day, remember that organized labor gained traction because they were literally armed and literally fought armed battles with the state." in "americanese" that means they fought "the people" [00:12] DaemonFC It's like everything else. [00:12] kingoffrance i fought the people, and i won [00:12] schestowitz https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20161026-why-the-forgotten-soviet-internet-was-doomed-from-the-start [00:12] Alternative link Cloudflare: bbc.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20161026-why-the-forgotten-soviet-internet-was-doomed-from-the-start [00:12] TR Bot the forgotten Soviet internet was doomed from the start - BBC Future [00:12] kingoffrance i am the people, so iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii win [00:12] DaemonFC The government pays to research it and then releases it, then it grants monopolies to companies who didn't have anything to do with it. [00:13] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:13] DaemonFC They add cost and take most of the money and do very little, and charge egregious amounts for what you do get. [00:13] DaemonFC Like Gilead and HIV drugs. [00:13] schestowitz "The Soviet internet was the brainchild of Viktor Glushkov, one of the founders of cybernetics. " [00:13] DaemonFC Those pills don't even cost them $5 to make a month's supply of. [00:14] DaemonFC But they charge HIV patients $4,000 for a month's worth. [00:14] DaemonFC Then the patents expiring doesn't even help much because corrupt "pay to delay" deals are legal. [00:14] schestowitz IIRC, the Soviets did that too before the US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet [00:14] TR Bot History of the Internet - Wikipedia [00:14] schestowitz but it didn't catch on as much [00:14] DaemonFC So you go another 5 years where you can only buy it from them. [00:14] schestowitz lots of space-related milestones were also soviet achievements [00:15] schestowitz but that's not what they teach kids [00:15] DaemonFC Then by the time there are multiple companies making it, it's no longer "frontline treatments" even though it still works. [00:15] DaemonFC Because the doctors are corrupt and on the take, and refuse to prescribe it. [00:15] schestowitz yeah [00:15] schestowitz it's a cartel [00:15] schestowitz and nobody will prosecute the masterminds [00:15] activelow 1) the Internet started in the US <- x.25 predates the internet, and originated in UK iirc [00:16] MinceR X.25 is not the Internet [00:16] DaemonFC ARPANET is what the Internet was based on. [00:16] DaemonFC That goes way back to the late 1960s, iirc. [00:16] schestowitz BornApril 29, 1926 [00:16] schestowitz Grodno, Poland [00:16] schestowitz (now Belarus) [00:16] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Baran [00:16] TR Bot Paul Baran - Wikipedia [00:16] DaemonFC Although most of its existence was to network universities, laboratories, and government agencies together. [00:16] DaemonFC They had another version of it called MILNET for the military. [00:17] DaemonFC MILNET still exists. The military has its own version of the Internet. It runs on Internet technologies, but it's totally walled off. [00:17] MinceR "Participants in the design of X.25 included engineers from Canada, France, Japan, the UK, and the USA representing a mix of national PTTs (France, Japan, UK) and private operators (Canada, USA)." [00:18] DaemonFC Systems that can access MILNET are not connected to the public Internet. [00:19] DaemonFC Heh, the firetv stick puts ads for shit on your TV now while your show is paused. [00:19] DaemonFC It's showing ads for Mitsubishi SUVs. [00:20] DaemonFC All three people who can still afford a new car say HEYO!!!!!! [00:20] DaemonFC :) [00:21] MinceR :) [00:21] TR News The Wine development release 7.4 is now available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162457#comment-33039 [00:21] TR Bot Wine 7.4 changes the default theme and more PE conversion work | Tux Machines [00:21] DaemonFC https://abc7chicago.com/illinois-gaming-board-sports-betting-russia-belarus-ukraine/11643123/ [00:22] TR Bot Illinois Gaming Board pulls plug on sports betting related to events in Russia or Belarus following Ukraine invasion - ABC7 Chicago [00:22] schestowitz-TR2 "no thanks, sir, I get ma facts from HOLLYWOOD" [00:23] DaemonFC https://abc7chicago.com/jussie-smollett-sentencing-verdict-cook-county-jail-sentence-outburst/11641911/ [00:23] TR Bot Jussie Smollett appeal: Sentence begins with 1st night in Cook County Jail; actor shouted 'I am not suicidal' after sentencing - ABC7 Chicago [00:23] DaemonFC They need to protect him in case those white men in the MAGA hats come back to try again. ;) [00:23] schestowitz-TR2 hollywood: it's only fiction [00:23] schestowitz-TR2 hollywood: we didn't suggest it is REALLY what had happened [00:24] schestowitz-TR2 argo etc. [00:24] schestowitz-TR2 wikipedia [citation needed] [00:24] schestowitz-TR2 let's add some movei title :-) [00:26] TR News self-hosting git; or, how git servers actually work, and how to keep yours secure gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-03-07.gmi [00:26] TR News OpenZFS 2.1.3 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162458 [00:27] TR Bot OpenZFS 2.1.3 released | Tux Machines [00:29] TR News Venezuela: Government Raises Wages as Inflation Hits Eight-Year Low | Venezuelanalysis.com https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/15472 "near twentyfold salary hike." [00:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: venezuelanalysis.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/15472 [00:29] TR Bot Government Raises Wages as Inflation Hits Eight-Year Low | Venezuelanalysis.com [00:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [00:30] TR News Making Putin's face turn blue? https://www.dbusiness.com/daily-news/dbusiness-daily-update-blue-cross-blue-shield-buildings-go-blue-and-yellow-to-support-ukraine-and-more/ [00:30] TR Bot Daily Update: Blue Cross Blue Shield Buildings Go Blue and Yellow to Support Ukraine, and More - DBusiness Magazine [00:34] TR News This FUD was funded by Microsoft proxies and used Microsoft data. Now it's being used against Linux, which the Linux Foundation happily harms for Microsoft proxies that have infiltrated it. https://www.darkreading.com/application-security/hundreds-of-open-source-components-could-undermine-security see http://techrights.org/2022/03/07/marketing-with-microsoft-npm/ [00:34] Alternative link Cloudflare: darkreading.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.darkreading.com/application-security/hundreds-of-open-source-components-could-undermine-security [00:34] TR Bot Hundreds of Open Source Components Could Undermine Security, Census Finds [00:34] TR Bot The Studies of Linux Foundation Research Based on Data From Microsoft and Experts in Adobe, Not Open Source | Techrights [00:34] TR News Linux Foundation is like Republican Party, named after the thing it is attacking [00:35] MinceR Fire Department? [00:35] schestowitz-TR2 you are fired [00:35] MinceR :> [00:35] Ariadne schestowitz: i mean, npm is a total shitshow security-wise [00:35] schestowitz-TR2 yes [00:35] schestowitz-TR2 it boils down to a shopping list [00:35] schestowitz-TR2 the 'report' is just a massive copy-paste [00:35] schestowitz-TR2 I saw it [00:36] schestowitz-TR2 not much on it [00:36] schestowitz http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36792/ [00:36] TR Bot Extremely narrow focused report, why?: A Summary of Census II: Open Source Software Application Libraries the World Depends On [00:36] schestowitz " [00:36] schestowitz This report IMHO is practically useless. A lot of work to present something that doesn't really reveal anything of use. [00:36] schestowitz I'm not saying that such a report can't exist, just that it's one very very very very narrow focused report with niche relevance. [00:36] schestowitz Time could have been spent doing something more interesting. [00:36] schestowitz " [00:36] Ariadne like the average javascript project [00:36] Ariadne has like 1000 dependencies [00:36] Ariadne most of which have more licensing text than actual code [00:37] Ariadne like 5 lines of code javascript thing [00:37] Ariadne plus whatever number of lines of apache 2.0 license [00:37] DaemonFC Isn't that the thing where the guy got in there and sabotaged it and then people didn't realize it until the library he fucked with got automatically imported into their program? [00:37] DaemonFC LOL [00:37] Ariadne yes [00:37] DaemonFC This is what happens when you blindly copy and paste code and call yourself a programmer. [00:37] DaemonFC And this is what Rust is. [00:38] Ariadne no, rust's ecosystem is a lot more sane than npm one [00:38] DaemonFC So many ways that can go wrong. [00:38] Ariadne i've never seen a rust crate that is just 5 lines of trivial code [00:38] DaemonFC Five? [00:38] Ariadne yes, there's literally [00:38] DaemonFC You need a module so you have five lines? [00:38] Ariadne npm things [00:38] Ariadne that are 5 lines of code [00:38] Ariadne and then 200 lines of apache license [00:39] DaemonFC How do you even license something that's 5 lines? [00:39] Ariadne i don't know why npm people do this [00:39] DaemonFC It's basically generic and boilerplate at that point. [00:39] MinceR because it's modular! [00:39] Ariadne there is literally an npm module [00:39] Ariadne that is called isEven [00:39] Ariadne and it is [00:39] MinceR (never mind that it's an insane way to organize code) [00:39] Ariadne function isEven(x) { return x % 2 == 0 } [00:40] schestowitz-TR2 lol [00:40] Ariadne with a 200 lines apache license in the zip file next to it [00:40] DaemonFC If there is no other way to do something in a programming language, and you make a module that does it that way and then purport to copyright it, then that's bogus. [00:40] DaemonFC Obviously. [00:40] Ariadne and this isEven module [00:40] Ariadne is in the dependency tree [00:40] Ariadne of over 1 million other npm packages [00:41] Ariadne which means [00:41] Ariadne if the author of isEven decides to go rogue [00:41] Ariadne and say, add a bitcoin miner to their module [00:41] MinceR i guess the % operator is challenging for nodejs developers to learn [00:41] Ariadne it's millions of things compromised [00:42] TR News Wow. Lunduke got canceled. See this text. https://www.osnews.com/story/134655/elementary-os-is-imploding/ [00:42] Alternative link Cloudflare: osnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.osnews.com/story/134655/elementary-os-is-imploding/ [00:42] TR Bot OS is imploding OSnews [00:42] DaemonFC Now that gas is so expensive, I'm finding even more ways to save some. [00:43] DaemonFC I found some tweaks to the route between here and where Mandy works that save about 4% of the gas for that. [00:43] MinceR lol @ "foolproof Linux distributions" [00:43] TR News "Cancel Culture is a real danger. Remove traces of every{body,thing} we dont agree withso orwellianis it the future we really want? Freedom and ability to face the truth is what should we expect from FLOSS/Freedom community.but its taking reverse." https://www.osnews.com/story/134655/elementary-os-is-imploding/ [00:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: osnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.osnews.com/story/134655/elementary-os-is-imploding/ [00:45] TR News "Yeah thats the problem. Were replacing one mob with another. I wish we could evolve past this and recognize vindictiveness as socially harmful in and of itself." https://www.osnews.com/story/134655/elementary-os-is-imploding/ [00:45] Alternative link Cloudflare: osnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.osnews.com/story/134655/elementary-os-is-imploding/ [00:46] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/814580.jpg [00:46] Alternative link Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/814580.jpg [00:47] Ariadne schestowitz: lunduke is knowingly doing that to danielle on purpose [00:49] TR News When the Water Stops: Water Survival Skills for a Disaster https://cedarmillnews.com/article/0322-community-news/ [00:49] TR Bot Community News March 2022 The Cedar Mill News [00:49] TR News Linux Foundation: FUD, Microsoft Outsourcing, and Clown Computing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162459 [00:49] TR Bot Linux Foundation: FUD, Microsoft Outsourcing, and 'Clown' Computing | Tux Machines [00:52] TR News ZDNet is now shilling the CompTIA disloma mill. CompTIA helps Microsoft corruption. [00:54] schestowitz Ariadne: I don't know the background stiry [00:54] schestowitz rianne saw this in lwn [00:54] schestowitz ad added it to http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162346 [00:54] TR Bot elementary OS is imploding | Tux Machines [00:54] schestowitz lwn thought it was OK [00:54] schestowitz I disagree with a lot of lunduke things [00:54] schestowitz heck, I blasted him [00:55] schestowitz but making him pesona non-grata is dangerous [00:55] schestowitz when they did this to RMS I could sympathise on some level [00:55] schestowitz because it's done to many, inc. oliva and me [00:55] schestowitz portraying us as dangerous villians [00:56] schestowitz for stating the truth about novell, ibm, microsoft, patents... [00:56] schestowitz I disagree with lunduke on many things [00:56] DaemonFC Google isn't entirely accurate on Maps I've noticed. It was recommending a route with more stop lights that was 0.4 miles longer. [00:56] schestowitz but making it a taboo to even mention his name or link to something he wrote is stalinist [00:56] DaemonFC Obviously when your car is a pig and you travel that route daily, it adds up. [00:57] Ariadne ??? the thing he *wrote* is where the danielle is being deadnamed [00:57] schestowitz does gulkag still own waze? [00:57] AdmFubar https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/11/pockit-modular-linux-computer-gets-a-raspberry-pi-cm4-upgrade/ [00:57] Alternative link Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/11/pockit-modular-linux-computer-gets-a-raspberry-pi-cm4-upgrade/ [00:57] TR Bot Pockit modular Linux computer gets a Raspberry Pi CM4 upgrade - CNX Software [00:57] Ariadne if lunduke is unwilling to correct his editorial error, then yes, he should be scrutinized for acting in bad faith [00:57] DaemonFC Yes. [00:57] DaemonFC They're letting Waze rot. [00:57] schestowitz as usual [00:57] DaemonFC It has many bugs and they haven't added features in years. [00:57] mjg59_ "Not linking to material that deliberately deadnames to people is Stalinism" is certainly a take [00:58] DaemonFC Every once in a while, without fixing the bugs, they add voices as promos for a movie or some Microsoft video game. [00:58] MinceR pretty sure they added features to waze in years [00:58] DaemonFC But when the bugs are so bad that the app doesn't even work and says "No Network Connection"..... [00:58] MinceR it started showing alternate routes with time estimates on the map like google maps did [00:58] MinceR they added lane guidance [00:58] TR News Poor zoo animals in Ukraine, starving, being shelled, shot at :( (I mean literally zoo animals). So sad... as if being in a cage wasn't bad enough already. [00:59] DaemonFC I just don't even have Waze installed anymore. Even the features that sound useful really aren't. [00:59] DaemonFC Police report fake police sightings to make real ones impossible to determine. [00:59] schestowitz-TR2 Waze is spyware [00:59] MinceR last time i checked, google maps didn't show allowed speed and current speed [00:59] schestowitz-TR2 might as well have been an offshoot of nso group :) [00:59] DaemonFC Yes, and Waze doesn't work with TrackerControl on. [00:59] DaemonFC If you block tracking servers, Waze doesn't function, at all. [00:59] MinceR yeah, every navigation software that has current traffic information and doesn't have you pay a recurring charge is spyware ● Mar 12 [01:00] TR News LOL. Delete it. https://www.maketecheasier.com/revisiting-facebook-privacy-settings/ [01:00] TR Bot How to Secure Your Facebook Account - Make Tech Easier [01:00] MinceR probably even the ones you have to pay for, regularly, are [01:00] DaemonFC There's just no reason to have Waze. [01:00] DaemonFC It wastes hundreds of MB on your phone and does nothing helpful. [01:00] MinceR i guess the road network is far better in the usa [01:00] DaemonFC It's been bitrotting at Google for at least 5 years. [01:01] DaemonFC There's a lot of Google abandonware that is still technically supported. [01:01] TR News "Yes, we can run Linux Ubuntu from SSD or HDD which is not embedded on PC/laptop." https://www.fosslicious.com/2022/03/can-i-run-ubuntu-via-external-ssdhdd.html [01:01] TR Bot I run Linux Ubuntu Via external SSD/HDD? - Fosslicious [01:01] DaemonFC They only recently officially shut down Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer. [01:01] MinceR sounds like google maps is abandonware too :> [01:01] DaemonFC It hadn't been updated since 2013. [01:02] DaemonFC They had been trying to deal with Internet Explorer's horrendous rendering engine with "Google Chrome Frame". [01:02] schestowitz-TR2 are you sure? [01:02] MinceR oh, they also made waze say something pointless when starting driving recently [01:02] schestowitz-TR2 since 2013? [01:02] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:02] DaemonFC Which basically shoved their rendering engine into IE and then let websites call it with a tag in the HTML. [01:03] DaemonFC Firefox barely changes these days. [01:03] DaemonFC More sites get broken than are fixed. [01:03] DaemonFC More users leave. [01:04] DaemonFC It may look like Chromium and Gecko have similar feature levels, but then Google adds non-standard features into their rendering engine and then makes their sites rely on those in order to actually work properly. [01:04] DaemonFC Then other sites do the same. [01:04] DaemonFC My bank only likes Chromium and T-Mobile's website too. [01:04] DaemonFC Doing a User Agent hack makes the bank go ahead and work though, and T-Mobile is on autopay. [01:04] Ariadne t-mobile website works fine for me on firefox [01:05] DaemonFC I keep an ungoogled Chromium around just to sign into websites that WILL NOT WORK with anything else. [01:05] schestowitz-TR2 many us things do not work well with firefox [01:05] schestowitz-TR2 librewolf preetends to be firefox on windows [01:05] DaemonFC When you sign into T-Mobile, it freezes and won't load the next page in the flow for about 8 minutes. [01:05] DaemonFC Then it loads. [01:05] schestowitz-TR2 even if you use it on gnu/linux [01:06] DaemonFC On Chromium it loads immediately. [01:06] TR News FSF still hiring https://www.fsf.org/news/contract-opportunity-bookkeeper [01:06] TR Bot Contract opportunity: Bookkeeper Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [01:06] DaemonFC Google thinks I have a Nexus 5. [01:06] schestowitz-TR2 wow [01:06] schestowitz-TR2 we had one [01:06] schestowitz-TR2 10 years ago [01:06] DaemonFC Because Fennec has an extension in it that lies to Google to make their search work. [01:06] DaemonFC It reports Chrome on Nexus 5. [01:07] DaemonFC Google disables features unless it thinks you use Chrome. [01:07] DaemonFC Even when they work fine in Firefox. [01:07] schestowitz-TR2 you would think a mere 'search engine' , box and results, should work OK on simple browsers [01:07] schestowitz-TR2 ccheck page source [01:07] schestowitz-TR2 bloat [01:07] DaemonFC "Not linking to material that deliberately deadnames to people is Stalinism" is certainly a take [01:08] DaemonFC My aunt's husband got a divorce after having two kids with her, went and tried to get a sex change operation, was turned down by all the psychiatrists at the hospitals that did them. Had it done in Canada, then wanted the girls to call him Mom. [01:08] DaemonFC So, yes, I went out of my way to continue calling him "Keith". [01:08] MinceR [01:09] DaemonFC Especially when he crashed my Aunt's funeral in 2013 and everyone there was all WTF. [01:10] TR News Kali Linux adds VM-like snapshot feature to bare-metal installs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162443#comment-33041 [01:10] DaemonFC Then after he destroyed his lungs working at his body shop without wearing masks to filter out the paint fumes, he tried to file for Social Security Disability on my Aunt's earnings record. [01:10] TR Bot Kali Linux on bare-metal gets snapshotting functionality | Tux Machines [01:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [01:10] DaemonFC Turned out he divorced her 6 months before they'd been married for 10 years, so they told him no, and he had been lying to the IRS about his earnings, so he lives on a very small amount of money now. [01:11] DaemonFC He was always a really odd guy. Eating habits too. Pizza could only have pepperoni, nothing else. Salads couldn't have dressing. Rice "reminded [him] of maggots]. [01:11] DaemonFC Just all these rules. [01:11] DaemonFC Steaks dipped in ketchup. [01:11] DaemonFC I think it's fair to say he didn't have one screw fully tightened. [01:12] DaemonFC The psychiatrists realized that he had a lot going wrong with him even though they probably had no Earthly idea what to call it. [01:12] DaemonFC And just told him "no". [01:12] DaemonFC He isn't actually trans, they realized that much. [01:13] DaemonFC Probably because after he divorced my Aunt, he was in a relationship with a woman again, and that woman walked in on him and my Aunt having sex. [01:13] TR News "If you know about Geminis early development then you know that Gemini evolved from /Gopher/, not from HTTP! As such, Gemini attempts to capture Gopher-era sentiments about the web. Gopher is absolutely not a do everything protocol, it can serve like 8 types of media and text files." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-02-14.gmi [01:13] DaemonFC So if I had to say something regarding this. He's not trans, he just internalized his hatred of being male, and that was probably the turning point. [01:13] mjg59_ DaemonFC: Yeah I think we've already established your transphobia is well aligned with your racism [01:14] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162460 [01:14] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [01:14] DaemonFC Regardless, it is sick, depraved, and wrong, to confuse your children like that. [01:15] DaemonFC I don't get why people get married, live as a straight man, have kids, and then fuck the kids heads up by getting a divorce and going around claiming they're a woman now. [01:15] DaemonFC I mean, they were like 7 when he did that. [01:16] DaemonFC I can't believe he expected a 7 year old to be able to sort out that kind of bewilderment. [01:16] DaemonFC He came over to our house in that get up and I was like 5, and I went running to mom like "Mom, Uncle Keith is here, and he's dressed like a woman....". [01:17] DaemonFC Then he got all pissed off that my mom was like "How dare you!" so he sped off from our house in his little Honda at like 60 miles an hour on a residential street. [01:18] DaemonFC Very clear memory from that age. One of the few crystal clear memories I have going that far back. [01:18] DaemonFC Because it was all so very perverted. [01:19] DaemonFC Then he lied, he had his doctor lie, so his insurance would cover the drugs he needed to make his body reject its natural state. [01:19] DaemonFC And so the doctor told the insurance company he was being treated for cancer. [01:19] DaemonFC Then my Aunt found out and called the insurance company and told them what it was really for, and they stopped. [01:20] schestowitz-TR2 can we focus on tech? [01:20] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: not the right channel for this [01:20] schestowitz-TR2 I'm heading to bed now [01:20] DaemonFC Meh, I mean, it's depravity on a lot of levels, including insurance fraud. [01:20] DaemonFC Stealing from people who are actually sick. [01:21] DaemonFC We've got a lot of problems in this country, like.....Medicare is going to collapse in 5 years, and they want boob jobs for men in there. [01:22] DaemonFC People on Medicare, which hasn't collapsed just yet, can't afford insulin. [01:22] DaemonFC And we're honestly debating furthering a mental illness. [01:24] DaemonFC So, I know, people like Stallman don't really want a debate about how to tax, and how to spend, and what public policy should be. [01:25] DaemonFC They want a leftist authoritarian government that just steals whatever it wants and hyperinflates, and gives money to people for taking up space. [01:25] DaemonFC And they don't appreciate that's why our country is breaking down, and they want more of it. [01:27] DaemonFC These people who want cosmetic surgeries in health insurance..... No. Just no. It's already bad enough that the cost of healthcare goes up 15% every year without THAT. [01:28] DaemonFC The health insurance companies are always figuring out ways to be nastier. They have these apps now. Doctor visits in their app. You get on there, and the doctor can't actually, you know, do anything. [01:28] DaemonFC But they'll charge you. [01:29] DaemonFC It turns out that there's actually many things a doctor can't do on an app, like 80% of all the doctor things can't get done on an app, but they are pressuring people to use the app. [01:30] DaemonFC How do you get on an app and have them check lumps or a mole or how your lungs sound, or what your ears look like? What good is an app when you have an infection and they can't swab you through the app to see if you need antibiotics? [01:30] DaemonFC This is part of the current tech bubble. [01:30] DaemonFC It's also a shitty way for bean counters to do "time management" on doctors. [01:31] DaemonFC In only a very few limited cases does a app visit make any sense at all. [01:31] DaemonFC You know, I mean, my psychiatrist does them, and it avoids a trip to Chicago. [01:32] DaemonFC Now with 500% more crime and 300% more expensive gasoline. [01:32] DaemonFC That's what Democrats do. [01:32] DaemonFC I notice that most people actually have mental health problems of some sort. [01:32] DaemonFC Most of them don't get treatment and then say there can't be anything wrong because they're not seeking treatment. [01:33] DaemonFC You know, like if you have cancer and you just let the tumor grow, it means you don't have cancer. 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(yes I coind that!) https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/peloton-subscription-barry-mccarthy [04:33] TR Bot is trying out a new subscription model - Protocol [04:58] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 78.98 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.16 [04:59] IPFS 276.19 ● Mar 12 [05:31] *psydroid8 has quit (connection closed) [05:31] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [05:32] *psydroid8 has quit (connection closed) [05:32] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [05:51] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:58] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.21 k/sec., IPFS upstream 69.90 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.21 ● Mar 12 [06:34] *matey (~matey@fiyk6feiuqbdu.irc) has joined #techrights [06:40] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@98i3dcbsy6zbg.irc) has joined #techrights [06:43] matey daemonfc: its not vital that you get stallman right or anything, but you have his politics wrong all the same [06:43] matey hes not an authoritarian, politically hes a ship lost at sea [06:44] matey he only cares about causes. his politics on how to achieve those causes are neither authoritarian nor effective [06:44] matey but he is openly against stalinism for example [06:50] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:51] matey a good example of both of these is his positions on copyright reform [06:51] matey theyre neither authoritarian nor can they achieve anything except hypothetically [06:51] matey he doesnt get copyright in real life terms, outside the scope of free software at least [06:52] matey so hes got ideas that work if theyre ever implemented-- and if not, things just continue to get worse for anyone on planet earth [06:52] matey with software hes more practical than that-- with copyright in general he can afford to be uselessly abstract (but the rest of us cant) [06:53] matey either way his proposals are very far from the authoritarian end of copyright [06:53] matey of course this is just one example of a trend i see in his politics [06:54] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@hngiv8sdpiaf2.irc) has joined #techrights [06:54] matey you make him authoritarian by lumping him together with people who differ from him in several ways-- that makes him authoritarian, just not in a way that realistically portrays him [06:56] matey as for how he runs the fsf, he runs it like its his house-- which you should have no problem with [06:56] matey it doesnt work, because they reposessed it and its no longer his, which is a statement of how things are not how they should be [06:57] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.73 k/sec., IPFS upstream 46.13 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.24 [06:59] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, March 11, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [06:59] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [06:59] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [06:59] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index ● Mar 12 [07:00] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:05] TR News "How hard could it be to fix a vintage solderless breadboard that doesn't quite work?" http://www.righto.com/2022/03/reverse-engineering-waveform-generator.html [07:05] Alternative link Cloudflare: righto.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://www.righto.com/2022/03/reverse-engineering-waveform-generator.html [07:05] TR Bot Reverse-engineering the waveform generator in a 1969 breadboard [07:06] TR News "However, there is now an SCD41, which is much smaller, and neater." https://www.revk.uk/2022/03/environmental-sensors-scd41-co.html [07:06] TR Bot RevK's ramblings: Environmental sensors (SCD41 CO) [07:07] TR News "To get my feet wet with the whole "investigations" thing that we'd do, I started looking into this one day and chose one of the many temp sensors which were being logged by the servers." https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2021/10/13/temp/ [07:07] TR Bot Looking at the outlying data points [07:08] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:09] TR News "M. Brown's idea was interesting enough for me to think about it and write an article." https://blog.plover.com/2022/03/09/#notation [07:09] TR Bot The Universe of Discourse : Bad but interesting mathematical notation idea [07:10] TR News html [07:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [07:10] TR News "China Fabricated Top Official's Quote" https://www.voanews.com/a/european-union-says-china-fabricated-top-official-s-quote/6481835.html [07:10] TR Bot European Union Says China Fabricated Top Official's Quote [07:11] TR News Adding a layer of proprietary software and spying is not really security https://goteleport.com/blog/how-to-setup-aws-bastion/ [07:11] Alternative link Cloudflare: goteleport.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://goteleport.com/blog/how-to-setup-aws-bastion/ [07:11] TR Bot Tutorial: Set-up an Identity-Aware Access Proxy as a Bastion Host in AWS | Teleport [07:12] TR News Spying on users in the US https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/11/22972530/tiktok-oracle-china-bytedance-trump-cfius [07:12] TR Bot The TikTok and Oracle trusted technology partner deal might really happen - The Verge [07:13] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@fd4bxggtnyz26.irc) has joined #techrights [07:13] matey hi [07:13] TR News Why would you trust Texas with data? https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emilybakerwhite/tiktok-project-texas-bytedance-user-data?scrolla=5eb6d68b7fedc32c19ef33b4 [07:13] Alternative link Cloudflare: buzzfeednews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emilybakerwhite/tiktok-project-texas-bytedance-user-data?scrolla=5eb6d68b7fedc32c19ef33b4 [07:13] TR Bot China-Owned TikTok Is Racing To Move User Data To The US [07:14] matey its pretty dead in here, i was just leaving [07:14] *matey has quit (Quit) [07:14] TR News "Though he was alone in his room, he was using drugs with other people. As he was injecting methamphetamine, he connected with hundreds of other individuals doing the same thing over Zoom." https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/internet-meth-underground-hidden-in-plain-sight/index.html [07:14] TR Bot The internets meth underground, hidden in plain sight [07:16] TR News "More than 450 attacks were recorded against banks, more than four times higher than the figure for February." https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/russian-company-websites-hit-by-increased-hacking-in-march-says-cyber-firm/90163070 [07:16] TR Bot cyber security: Russian company websites hit by increased hacking in March, says cyber firm, CIO News, ET CIO [07:17] TR News "Last week's assault by Russian forces on the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant was far more dangerous than initial assessments suggested, according to an analysis by NPR of video and photographs of the attack and its aftermath." https://text.npr.org/1085427380 [07:17] Alternative link Cloudflare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://text.npr.org/1085427380 [07:17] TR Bot Video analysis reveals Russian attack on Ukrainian nuclear plant veered near disaster [07:21] TR News "What was once seen as a niche play for tech enthusiasts and investors crypto is now becoming a mainstream financial asset." https://text.npr.org/1084166077 [07:21] Alternative link Cloudflare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://text.npr.org/1084166077 [07:21] TR Bot With federal rules unclear, some states carve their own path on cryptocurrencies [07:21] GNUmoon2 matey: are you on drugs? [07:22] TR News "Many zoos worldwide are joining Tallinn Zoo's example of collecting donations to help Ukrainian zoos and their animals" https://news.err.ee/1608529006/tallinn-zoo-launches-fundraising-for-ukrainian-zoos [07:22] TR Bot Tallinn Zoo launches fundraising for Ukrainian zoos | News | ERR [07:23] schestowitz-TR2 GNUmoon2: he is new here [07:24] schestowitz-TR2 and iirc he was trolling for days [07:25] TR News Microsoft 'proxy' as censorship https://www.komando.com/technology/duckduckgo-fighting-russian-disinformation/829782/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo [07:25] Alternative link Cloudflare: komando.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.komando.com/technology/duckduckgo-fighting-russian-disinformation/829782/ [07:25] TR Bot DuckDuckGo changes its RULES about what you see in search results [07:25] TR Bot DuckDuckGo - Techrights [07:25] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: brb) [07:25] *matey (~matey@ecz2t3b69tp9n.irc) has joined #techrights [07:26] matey gnumoon2: what kind of question is that? [07:26] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@zmqsxh3bwz8xn.irc) has joined #techrights [07:26] matey how do you get from anything that was said to drugs? [07:26] TR News Well, disinformation is bad, but these companies usually tolerate one side (of disinformation), not the other https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/11/performative-conservatives-are-mad-that-a-search-engine-wants-to-downrank-disinformation/ [07:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/11/performative-conservatives-are-mad-that-a-search-engine-wants-to-downrank-disinformation/ [07:26] TR Bot Conservatives Are Mad That A Search Engine Wants To Downrank Disinformation | Techdirt [07:27] TR News NOT the Internet we need... https://thehill.com/policy/technology/technology/597922-white-house-briefs-tiktok-creators-on-ukraine [07:27] TR Bot House briefs TikTok creators on Ukraine | TheHill [07:27] TR News New avenues for government propaganda https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/11/tik-tok-ukraine-white-house/ [07:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/11/tik-tok-ukraine-white-house/ [07:27] TR Bot TikTok stars receive White House briefing on Ukraine - The Washington Post [07:28] TR News "Over the last 4 years, I've onboarded 28 national government CERTs onto Have I Been Pwned (HIBP) and given them free and open access to APIs " https://www.troyhunt.com/setting-the-bar-for-government-access-to-have-i-been-pwned/ [07:28] Alternative link Cloudflare: troyhunt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.troyhunt.com/setting-the-bar-for-government-access-to-have-i-been-pwned/ [07:28] TR Bot Troy Hunt: Setting the Bar for Government Access to Have I Been Pwned [07:28] TR News "Sunk cost is cost that's already been incurred. You can't reverse sunk costs." https://matt-rickard.com/ignore-sunk-costs/ [07:28] Alternative link Cloudflare: matt-rickard.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/ignore-sunk-costs/ [07:28] TR Bot Ignore Sunk Costs [07:28] matey maybe its a generic critique, like "trolling" [07:29] matey you know, i dont agree therefore its: {drugs, trolling, etc} [07:29] TR News Great example of political bias. Calls for death tolerated by Facebook. https://today.rtl.lu/news/business-and-tech/a/1878502.html [07:29] TR Bot RTL Today - Can of worms: Facebook allows calls for violence against 'Russian invaders' [07:30] matey "we trust people to be civil and the debates to be constructive." i mean constructive might be a tall order, admittedly [07:30] matey honest debates would be a start [07:30] matey maybe work up towards constructive gradually [07:30] TR News Facebook and violence https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/11/22972460/russia-threatens-instagram-ban-meta-violent-threats-russian-soldiers [07:30] TR Bot Russia threatens Instagram ban in response to Meta allowing violent threats against soldiers - The Verge [07:31] TR News to post information containing calls for violence against Russian citizens" https://thehill.com/policy/technology/597875-russian-regulators-restrict-access-to-instagram [07:31] TR Bot regulators restrict access to Instagram | TheHill [07:31] TR News Twitter is violence http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/ [07:31] TR Bot Twitter Profits From Conflict | Techrights [07:32] schestowitz-TR2 matey: just remind me, [07:32] matey schestowitz-TR2: absolutement [07:32] schestowitz-TR2 are you the same person who accused me of speaking out against companies for merely saying "open source"? [07:33] schestowitz-TR2 as maybe I confuse you with somebody else [07:33] GNUmoon2 Well, you said "its pretty dead in here, i was just leaving"... so you didn't really observer the conversations here, far from dead. [07:33] matey they were not showing [07:33] matey i dont know why [07:34] schestowitz-TR2 yesterday's IRC logs (as HTML) are 1MB [07:34] matey but when i came back there were people talking [07:34] schestowitz-TR2 just for this channel [07:34] schestowitz-TR2 that's not dead, likely biggest so far this year [07:34] matey schestowitz-TR2: there are two people youre trying to figure out. [07:34] GNUmoon2 Some people work, busy, family, different timezone, so thee are not always instant response. [07:34] matey one is the person who, as you put it, accused me of speaking out against companies for merely saying "open source" [07:34] matey the other one is me. [07:34] TR News We grew up making fun of our parents and grandparents falling for spam emails, but every single day I see young people falling for false narratives" https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/ukraine-conflict-shows-gen-z-isnt-immune-misinformation-online-rcna19606 [07:34] TR Bot Ukraine conflict shows Gen Z isn't immune to misinformation online [07:35] matey i do not know who that other guy is, but i clearly excited something in him about that issue [07:35] SomeH4x0r of course not immune [07:35] matey he was overly focused on the least important part of it [07:35] TR News Social control media misleads people https://www.deccanherald.com/international/world-news-politics/well-oiled-conspiracy-theorists-push-ukraine-disinformation-1090585.html [07:35] TR Bot Well-oiled conspiracy theorists push Ukraine disinformation | Deccan Herald [07:35] matey Some people work, busy, family, different timezone, so thee are not always instant response. <- still not clear what this has to do with drugs [07:35] SomeH4x0r the fact one was born sometime recently doesn't mean they are superhuman or something [07:35] TR News Social control media needs to be avoided. It's bad for the brain. https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/ukraine-war-conspiracy-theorists-move-to-ukraine-crisis-after-covid-disinformation-2818548 [07:35] TR Bot Ukraine War: Conspiracy Theorists Move To Ukraine Crisis After Covid Disinformation [07:36] matey GNUmoon2 you seem to have the impression that my preference was a demand [07:36] SomeH4x0r fuck TikTok [07:36] matey i simply preferred to come back when people were actively talking [07:37] matey are drugs required for that preference to exist? [07:37] GNUmoon2 matey: yes, you seem impatient. [07:37] GNUmoon2 If not, sorry. [07:37] matey no worries. [07:37] SomeH4x0r another cancer on the Internet... [07:37] GNUmoon2 All good. [07:38] SomeH4x0r anyway, aren't these kids, or new-adults, manipulated by social control media all the time? [07:38] matey its not that i dont understand irc, im well aware that modern use of it is like the online version of geocaching [07:38] matey i think its a red herring SomeH4x0r, that only kids are affected beacuse its new technology [07:38] matey adults are just as affected. ive complained about this before. [07:39] matey even people in their prime and retirees [07:39] matey i mean the primes of their careers [07:39] schestowitz-TR2 true [07:39] SomeH4x0r adults are more likely to know the alternatives though [07:39] matey like theres some age where people become impossible to distract or manipulate is pretty hilarious [07:39] matey more likely to know them, not maybe more likely to use them. [07:39] SomeH4x0r but they might give up on these as well, and use the same social control media :( [07:40] matey consider junk food as a metaphor-- people know alternatives exist. [07:40] TR News Imagine the people who did this to him own a football club in ENGLAND!!! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-60714086 "caused a global outcry and he became an emblem of rights abuses in the country." [07:40] TR Bot Raif Badawi: Saudi blogger freed after decade in prison - BBC News [07:40] TR News China doing what a lot of the West already does too (usually in more subtle ways) https://www.voanews.com/a/chinese-state-censors-at-work-to-control-messaging-on-war-/6480253.html [07:40] TR Bot Chinese State Censors at Work to Control Messaging on War [07:41] TR News ">The Main Directorate for Combating Organized Crime and Corruption of Belarus (GUBOPiK) has detained prominent Wikipedia editor Mark Bernstein, according to the Belarusian publication Zerkalo." https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/11/22973293/wikipedia-editor-russia-belarus-ukraine [07:41] TR Bot A top Wikipedia editor has been arrested in Belarus - The Verge [07:43] matey for people to have full control over the addictiveness of technology they have to have full control of the technology in the first place [07:43] matey free software has made great strides with this, but its falling behind (itself. the alternatives are worse) [07:44] matey you can delete twitter, you can install nitter, both are better options than staying on twitter [07:45] schestowitz-TR2 install nitter? [07:45] schestowitz-TR2 there is desktop/client side for it? [07:45] matey there are instances, so obviously you can install it on a server [07:46] TR News Gulag collusion against the Internet/Web https://today.rtl.lu/news/business-and-tech/a/1878731.html [07:46] TR Bot RTL Today - "Jedi Blue" agreement: Google, Meta face EU-UK antitrust probes over online ads deal [07:46] matey the great thing about nitter (compared to twitter) is that if you turn js off (and maybe even if you dont) it fixes infinite scrolling [07:46] matey just being able to reach the bottom of the screen is a huge step forward towards fixing twitters addictiveness [07:46] TR News To surveillance companies https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/11/22972384/eu-uk-antitrust-investigation-google-meta-facebook-jedi-blue-adtech-deal they have ruined Mozilla, too http://techrights.org/2019/11/03/the-privacy-scam/ [07:46] TR Bot EU and UK launch antitrust investigation into Google and Metas adtech dealings - The Verge [07:46] TR Bot Facebook and Other Surveillance Capitalists Wont Save Mozilla From Google Dependence | Techrights [07:46] matey its better to actually delete twitter probably [07:47] TR News Social control media promoting violence https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/10/22970705/russia-ukraine-moderation-facebook-instagram-hate-speech-violence-policy see http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/ [07:47] TR Bot Facebook allows posts with violent speech toward Russian soldiers in specific countries - The Verge [07:47] TR Bot Twitter Profits From Conflict | Techrights [07:48] TR News EU should also investigate Microsoft crimes https://thehill.com/policy/technology/597855-eu-uk-probe-meta-and-google-on-advertising-agreement e.g. http://techrights.org/2021/03/22/epoleaks-report-march-2021-finale/ [07:48] TR Bot UK probe Meta and Google on advertising agreement | TheHill [07:48] TR Bot EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Summing Up: EPO Administrative Council Still Asleep at the Wheel | Techrights [07:49] TR News Due to lawyers and the copyright cartel you cannot make decent music anymore (it is fiscally risky) https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/katy-perry-ninth-circuit-dark-horse-copyright-verdict-1319870/ [07:49] Alternative link Cloudflare: rollingstone.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/katy-perry-ninth-circuit-dark-horse-copyright-verdict-1319870/ [07:49] TR Bot Katy Perry Wins Again in $2.8 Million 'Dark Horse' Copyright Battle - Rolling Stone [07:50] TR News Cracks, not "hacks" https://torrentfreak.com/anonymous-hacks-russias-roscomnadzor-site-blocking-agency-220311/ [07:50] Alternative link Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/anonymous-hacks-russias-roscomnadzor-site-blocking-agency-220311/ [07:50] TR Bot Hacks Russia's Roscomnadzor Site-Blocking Agency * TorrentFreak [07:50] TR News Legal channels leave you behind https://torrentfreak.com/spider-man-no-way-home-blu-ray-leaks-early-on-pirate-sites-220311/ [07:50] Alternative link Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/spider-man-no-way-home-blu-ray-leaks-early-on-pirate-sites-220311/ [07:50] TR Bot No Way Home' Blu-Ray Leaks Early on Pirate Sites * TorrentFreak [07:52] TR News "Pressure on Russias independent media and international outlets has forced several to close or move operations outside the country" https://www.voanews.com/a/journalism-has-been-lost-in-russia-says-novaya-gazeta-journalist/6481450.html [07:52] TR Bot Journalism has Been Lost in Russia, Says Novaya Gazeta Journalist [07:54] TR News Apple ranks LAST in USPIRG repairability report https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/apple-ranks-last-in-uspirg-repairability:1 [07:54] Alternative link Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/apple-ranks-last-in-uspirg-repairability:1 [07:54] TR Bot Apple ranks LAST in USPIRG repairability report [07:58] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 67.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.26 [07:58] TR News iophk: "it is just another corporate handout unless this includes work to actively migrate away from Windows" https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/597902-spending-bill-includes-large-funding-increase-to-boost-cybersecurity http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/ [07:58] TR Bot bill includes large funding increase to boost cybersecurity | TheHill [07:58] TR Bot Is Microsoft a National Security Threat? | Techrights [07:59] TR News There are much better reasons to boycott duckduckgo https://www.mediaite.com/news/duckduckbye-conservatives-revolt-after-duckduckgo-vows-to-down-rank-russian-disinformation-sites/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo [07:59] Alternative link Cloudflare: mediaite.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.mediaite.com/news/duckduckbye-conservatives-revolt-after-duckduckgo-vows-to-down-rank-russian-disinformation-sites/ [07:59] TR Bot Conservatives Revolt After DuckDuckGo Down-Ranks Sites [07:59] TR Bot DuckDuckGo - Techrights ● Mar 12 [08:02] TR News Delete Windows https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/03/report-recent-10x-increase-in-cyberattacks-on-ukraine/ http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/ [08:02] TR Bot Report: Recent 10x Increase in Cyberattacks on Ukraine Krebs on Security [08:02] SomeH4x0r which search engine to use though? [08:02] SomeH4x0r or there is no good one? [08:02] schestowitz-TR2 not good ones [08:02] schestowitz-TR2 searx might be ok [08:03] schestowitz-TR2 if you trust the instance [08:04] matey the best search engine would be to make your own [08:04] matey youd want to set aside a machine for the task [08:04] TR News An event in support of Julian Assange https://dontextraditeassange.com/events/set-julian-assange-free-oslo/ [08:04] TR Bot Set Julian Assange Free! An event in support of Julian Assange, WikiLeaks and freedom of expression! - Don't Extradite Assange [08:05] matey other than that, if you can figure out what youre too lazy / incapable / busy to add yourself in terms of features [08:05] matey then you can figure out which solution is the closest to what you want [08:05] TR News Twitter = violent propaganda https://www.propublica.org/article/infamous-russian-troll-farm-appears-to-be-source-of-anti-ukraine-propaganda [08:05] Alternative link Cloudflare: propublica.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.propublica.org/article/infamous-russian-troll-farm-appears-to-be-source-of-anti-ukraine-propaganda [08:05] TR Bot Infamous Russian Troll Farm Appears to Be Source of Anti-Ukraine Propaganda ProPublica [08:06] matey if none of those are good, you might as well make your own [08:06] matey ive thought about making a search engine lots of times, it would be modest of course [08:06] matey i always end up doing something else with the time [08:07] matey but for example, people are doing their own in gemini and this is sort of what im getting it. its more work with the web, but its not undoable [08:08] schestowitz-TR2 it is expensive [08:08] schestowitz-TR2 making an independent and extensive search engine [08:08] matey i wouldnt devote ore than a cheap server to it [08:08] matey it would be for my personal use [08:09] schestowitz-TR2 good lick crawling tens of millions of sites over and over again with one server [08:09] matey but its not going to happen unless the need outweighs the bother [08:09] matey tens of millions of sites over and over again with one server <- how often do you need a cache from the same day? [08:09] matey you can prioritise certain websites, only the ones you are going to need that up to date [08:10] schestowitz-TR2 that's just the crawling [08:10] schestowitz-TR2 not even the analysis of the data [08:10] matey yeah the indexxing can be done by existing software [08:10] matey the first thing youd want to do imo is strip the html [08:10] matey store only plaintext [08:11] matey now youre getting closer to a gemini engine [08:11] matey but then theres lots of stuff you DONT need to index at all [08:11] matey you yourself said the web is mostly spam [08:11] matey you could search everything plus a blacklist of garbage you dont need [08:11] matey but theres no law that says you couldnt build a search engine through whitelisting either [08:11] matey and that makes its easier [08:12] schestowitz-TR2 some sites would block you [08:12] matey that doesnt bother me [08:12] matey im very uninterested in most websites that block people [08:12] matey we are trying to get away from the web anyway, right? [08:12] matey so those sites arent a priority [08:13] matey the point here is that this isnt a product, its not designed like a product-- it would be a tool for my personal needs [08:13] matey more free software used to be written that way [08:14] matey you make the source available and put it under a free license, but even rms says that most software is written for in-house purposes only [08:14] matey or that used to be part of his speeches. its probably still true. [08:15] matey most software isnt a product anyway [08:16] TR News When war enters the gaming scene https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/11/video-games-for-good-itch-io-releases-bundle-for-ukraine-raises-millions-of-dollars/ [08:16] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/11/video-games-for-good-itch-io-releases-bundle-for-ukraine-raises-millions-of-dollars/ [08:16] TR Bot Games For Good: Itch.io Releases Bundle For Ukraine, Raises Millions Of Dollars | Techdirt [08:18] schestowitz-TR2 matey: define product [08:19] schestowitz-TR2 to some people, "livestock" is "product" [08:19] matey something designed for consumers-- extended to things that are zero-cost but target a similar audience in scope. [08:19] matey and to people for whom livestock isnt a product, plants still are [08:20] matey but surely we agree there is a difference between foraging and agriculture? [08:20] matey agriculture (in the modern sense at least) creates products [08:20] TR News This week in KDE: fewer korners, more multi-cursor, better apps Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162461 [08:20] TR Bot This week in KDE: fewer korners, more multi-cursor, better apps | Tux Machines [08:20] matey im not sure if im using the word product in a way that is unconventional, its a pretty agreed-upon word [08:21] matey not one that gets protested much [08:22] TR News "A month ago, the controversial EARN IT Actsailed throughamarkup hearingin the Senate Judiciary Committee." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/11/ignoring-earn-its-fourth-amendment-problem-wont-make-it-go-away/ [08:22] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/11/ignoring-earn-its-fourth-amendment-problem-wont-make-it-go-away/ [08:22] TR Bot EARN ITs Fourth Amendment Problem Wont Make It Go Away | Techdirt [08:24] TR News "By now you surely know that former Congressman and current satirical cow censor Devin Nunes has become quite well known for his series of SLAPP suits against people who made him feel bad" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/11/devin-nunes-loses-appeal-of-slapp-suit-against-liz-mair/ [08:24] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/11/devin-nunes-loses-appeal-of-slapp-suit-against-liz-mair/ [08:24] TR Bot Nunes Loses Appeal Of SLAPP Suit Against Liz Mair | Techdirt [08:28] matey Zo Kooyman: Its Important to Listen to Community Members About What They Think the FSF Should Focus on [08:29] matey if they suggest the fsf should get back to its traditional values, im sure there are crickets that will listen [08:29] TR News Russia's Internet https://www.thenation.com/article/world/russia-censorship-war-ukraine/ [08:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/world/russia-censorship-war-ukraine/ [08:29] TR Bot The Tightening Grip of Censorship in Russia | The Nation [08:30] TR News $249 Rockchip RK3588 8K mini PC comes with up to 16GB RAM Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162462 [08:30] TR Bot $249 Rockchip RK3588 8K mini PC comes with up to 16GB RAM | Tux Machines [08:33] TR News Patents kill millions https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/11/nobel-laureates-world-leaders-mark-two-years-covid-simple-call-end-patents [08:33] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/11/nobel-laureates-world-leaders-mark-two-years-covid-simple-call-end-patents [08:33] TR Bot Nobel Laureates, World Leaders Mark Two Years of Covid With Simple Call: End the Patents [08:35] *psydroid8 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:36] TR News Mary Coombs, first woman commercial programmer, dies at 93 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162463 [08:36] TR Bot Mary Coombs, first woman commercial programmer, dies at 93 | Tux Machines [08:36] TR News Mary Coombs, first woman commercial programmer, dies at 93 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162463 [08:36] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162464 [08:36] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [08:41] *darwin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:49] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@xg2evud9qdris.irc) has joined #techrights [08:52] TR News "Corporations are quick to blame this new reality on the pandemic, but another major culprit is hiding in plain sight: their own profiteering." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/11/its-not-just-inflation-its-price-gouging/ [08:52] Alternative link Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/11/its-not-just-inflation-its-price-gouging/ [08:52] TR Bot Not Just Inflation, Its Price Gouging - CounterPunch.org [08:53] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [08:54] TR News Police" officers routinely engage in excessive force, especially when dealing with residents suffering from mental illness" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/11/survey-says-portland-cops-should-be-locked-out-of-recordings-until-after-theyve-written-reports-answered-investigators/ [08:54] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/11/survey-says-portland-cops-should-be-locked-out-of-recordings-until-after-theyve-written-reports-answered-investigators/ [08:54] TR Bot Says Portland Cops Should Be Locked Out Of Recordings Until After Theyve Written Reports, Answered Investigators | Techdirt [08:54] TR News "corporate efforts to monopolize repair resulted in a flood of proposed state and federal laws" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/11/farmers-unions-right-to-repair-coalition-files-ftc-complaint-against-john-deere [08:54] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/11/farmers-unions-right-to-repair-coalition-files-ftc-complaint-against-john-deere [08:55] TR Bot Unions, Right To Repair Coalition Files FTC Complaint Against John Deere | Techdirt [08:56] TR News Surveillance https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/11/following-the-murder-of-george-floyd-the-minneapolis-pd-built-a-large-scale-surveillance-program/ [08:56] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/11/following-the-murder-of-george-floyd-the-minneapolis-pd-built-a-large-scale-surveillance-program/ [08:56] TR Bot The Murder Of George Floyd, The Minneapolis PD Built A Large-Scale Surveillance Program | Techdirt [08:58] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.70 k/sec., IPFS upstream 54.28 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.28 ● Mar 12 [09:00] TR News Human Rights Watch should issue a statement about the patents https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/11/two-years-pandemic-human-rights-watch-warns-lessons-not-learned [09:00] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/11/two-years-pandemic-human-rights-watch-warns-lessons-not-learned [09:00] TR Bot Two Years Into Pandemic, Human Rights Watch Warns of Lessons Not Learned [09:05] TR News Pandemic plunder: 11 trillion more in PUBLIC DEBT. Who pockets it all? https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/11/700-us-billionaires-got-17-trillion-richer-during-two-years-pandemic [09:05] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/11/700-us-billionaires-got-17-trillion-richer-during-two-years-pandemic [09:05] TR Bot 700 US Billionaires Got $1.7 Trillion Richer During Two Years of Pandemic [09:06] schestowitz-TR2 [08:29] if they suggest the fsf should get back to its traditional values, im sure there are crickets that will listen [09:06] schestowitz-TR2 "traditional values"? [09:06] schestowitz-TR2 that term is bizarre for a whole lot of reasons [09:06] matey freedom, free as in speech, etc [09:07] matey yes but youre hung up on a phrase when the meaning is clear enough [09:07] matey im happy to clarify anyway [09:07] matey the fsf was the same fsf for a long time [09:07] matey now it isnt [09:07] matey the words i chose mean nothing other than that [09:12] schestowitz how has it changed? [09:12] schestowitz-TR2 twitter account? [09:12] matey how has the fsf changed? [09:12] schestowitz-TR2 I was surprised they took so long to respond to twitter becoming JS only [09:12] schestowitz-TR2 and proprietary js [09:12] schestowitz-TR2 and still posting there [09:13] matey I was surprised they took so long to respond to twitter becoming JS only <- i mean thats a good example, there are probably bigger examples [09:14] matey leah for example gave them a year, but then later (reasonably) backtracked to something like "but who knows" [09:14] matey obviously a year is unrealistically short [09:14] TR News Patents kill. These sorts of messages need to become a DAILY routine. https://truthout.org/articles/130-world-leaders-nobel-laureates-scientists-call-for-end-to-vaccine-patents/ [09:14] Alternative link Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/130-world-leaders-nobel-laureates-scientists-call-for-end-to-vaccine-patents/ [09:14] TR Bot 130+ World Leaders, Nobel Laureates, Scientists Call for End to Vaccine Patents [09:14] matey money isnt the problem, so as long as theyre in the black they will still exist [09:15] matey they can cut the spending to fit the budget [09:15] matey until they run out of people to throw money at them-- i mean thats going to take years at least [09:15] matey i dont even see an end in sight for their funding [09:16] schestowitz-TR2 [01:06] FSF still hiring https://www.fsf.org/news/contract-opportunity-bookkeeper [09:16] TR Bot Contract opportunity: Bookkeeper Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [09:18] matey but that doesnt mean leah is wrong about the fsf facing existential threats [09:18] matey there are matters of legitimacy [09:18] matey which are obviously debatable depending who (and when) you ask [09:18] TR News How Putler deals with criticism on the Internet https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/11/amnesty-condemns-kremlin-blocking-its-russian-language-website this is part of a worrisome trend: http://techrights.org/2022/03/09/breaking-internet/ [09:18] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/11/amnesty-condemns-kremlin-blocking-its-russian-language-website [09:18] TR Bot Amnesty Condemns Kremlin for Blocking Its Russian-Language Website [09:18] TR Bot The Internet is Breaking and We Need Contingencies | Techrights [09:19] matey osi still exists, but its still defunct [09:19] matey but it exists [09:19] matey so we are talking about legitimacy, not solvency [09:19] schestowitz osi is in very bad standing, look beyond the site [09:19] schestowitz they lost patrick [09:19] schestowitz then deb left [09:20] schestowitz she only did damage anyway [09:20] schestowitz now there's this really weak leader [09:20] matey im not arguing for osi, on the contrary [09:20] schestowitz I spent a week talking to him [09:20] schestowitz simon phipps was miles better [09:20] matey im using them as the bad example [09:20] matey phipps signed the anti-rms letter, to me hes scum [09:20] matey i always thought he was sleazy [09:21] schestowitz i am not mad at him [09:21] schestowitz he's not as good as michael tiemann [09:21] matey you dont have to be mad at him even if he is sleazy [09:21] schestowitz but he's someone you can still speak to, and I sent him emails larely [09:21] schestowitz *lately [09:21] schestowitz let me put it crudely like this [09:22] matey ten (i guess 12) years ago phipps said the difference between free software and open source was nothing but a pedantic nitpick [09:22] schestowitz we have a bunch of "typos": [09:22] schestowitz the free software 'fundamentalist" [09:22] matey stallman disagrees [09:22] schestowitz the free software "realist" [09:22] schestowitz the corporate-friendly [09:22] schestowitz the corporate shill [09:22] matey you mean stereotypes? [09:23] schestowitz matey: a decade ago maybe [09:23] schestowitz 10 years ago the term open source was not so badly tarnished [09:23] matey well more recently he signed a letter saying horrible slander about rms [09:23] schestowitz I wrote to simon and patrick maybe 20 times to report to them misuses of the term [09:23] matey and he seems unapologetic about it [09:23] schestowitz sumon would usually direct me to patrick [09:23] schestowitz they did not protect the brand [09:23] schestowitz or barely [09:24] matey no they lost the trademark [09:24] schestowitz in 2019 I threw them out the window [09:24] matey why do you want them back [09:24] matey or phipps at least [09:24] schestowitz i don't want "back" [09:24] schestowitz I want peace [09:24] schestowitz they do not [09:24] schestowitz they want peace... witj corporations [09:24] schestowitz not with us [09:24] schestowitz the money [09:24] schestowitz not the principles [09:24] schestowitz that's an issue [09:25] matey funnily enough we agree on the problem there [09:25] matey but um, youre not going to get anything by bargaining with a sleazeball [09:25] schestowitz btw, 2 years ago OSI budget was 4% members [09:25] matey of course if youre right and hes NOT a sleazeball, that changes things [09:25] schestowitz a yeat before it was 5% [09:25] schestowitz IRS is always 1-2 years behind [09:25] matey but ive never been as charitable to him [09:25] schestowitz sleazeball is a bad term [09:25] schestowitz and won't help diplomatically [09:26] matey diplomacy isnt always the answer [09:26] matey and that was my point when i said arguing with a sleazeball wont work [09:26] schestowitz it does not harm [09:26] schestowitz it can help [09:26] matey not always [09:26] *psydroid8 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:26] matey theres a place for diplomacy [09:27] schestowitz-TR2 lately I've mosly iognored OSI [09:27] schestowitz-TR2 which was easy [09:27] matey yeah, what osi? [09:27] schestowitz-TR2 because they lack any real clout [09:27] schestowitz-TR2 they just write "fillers" in their site [09:27] matey linux.com ii [09:27] Ariadne if your qualification for whether somebody is a sleezeball is whether they signed an anti-rms letter... [09:27] schestowitz-TR2 ha! [09:27] schestowitz-TR2 funny you mention linux.com [09:27] schestowitz-TR2 as I was JUST about to give that as an analog [09:28] matey if your qualification for whether somebody is a sleezeball is whether they signed an anti-rms letter <- how could it be? i thought he was years before that. [09:28] Ariadne i mean, you said, "3:20 AM phipps signed the anti-rms letter, to me hes scum" [09:28] Ariadne so, i was wondering if you had other qualifiers besides that [09:28] matey two statements that are related, but youre making it into an isolated causal statement [09:28] matey it was a summary. [09:29] Ariadne oh ok [09:29] schestowitz-TR2 phipps had done wrose things [09:29] matey in fact one COULD be a non-sleazeball and sign it. [09:29] schestowitz-TR2 like calling RMS names [09:29] schestowitz-TR2 ableist [09:29] SomeH4x0r cancelling people here as well? [09:29] matey well the letter called him ableist [09:29] schestowitz also http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/osi-fsfe-collusion-and-coordination/ [09:29] TR Bot Leak: FSFE and OSI Coordinate Rubbing Off Free Software by Saying Open Source is the Same (Its Not, Same False Argument From 20 Years Earlier) | Techrights [09:29] matey cancelling people here as well? <- what? [09:29] SomeH4x0r saying someone is wrong if they signed something [09:30] Ariadne i was just asking how the sentence was meant to be parsed [09:30] matey it depends on what they signed [09:30] schestowitz-TR2 to clarify, I am not blasting Phipps for calling RMS that, via a signature [09:30] schestowitz-TR2 SPhipps himself is the ableist [09:30] SomeH4x0r it is not some war contract though [09:30] schestowitz-TR2 based on his own words [09:30] schestowitz-TR2 don't throw stones in glass house, Simon.. [09:30] matey it is not some war contract though <- debatable, but either way that wasnt what i said. [09:30] matey what i said was: in fact one COULD be a non-sleazeball and sign it. [09:31] Ariadne i mean, RMS is not somebody i would invite to a party i was throwing, bluntly [09:31] Ariadne but he can do as he wishes [09:31] SomeH4x0r I don't want big foundation behind free software movement [09:32] SomeH4x0r big entities turn evil [09:32] Ariadne same, i want grassroots shit [09:32] matey third [09:32] SomeH4x0r also now "sanctions" force it to be evil [09:32] Ariadne hero worship is boring [09:32] schestowitz-TR2 FSF does not monopolise this [09:32] schestowitz-TR2 it does produce some articles and does the (c) for a lot of gnu [09:32] matey i dont think getting history right is the same as hero worship [09:32] Ariadne don't have heroes btw, you'll just wind up disappointed [09:32] schestowitz-TR2 and writes licences [09:33] SomeH4x0r WTFPL is better [09:33] matey FSF does not monopolise this <- not per se. they sometimes play their hand in a monpolistic fashion. im not sure its intentional, it happens all the same [09:33] schestowitz-TR2 techrights is a friend of FSF [09:33] matey but a critical friend [09:33] SomeH4x0r even better is to reject the idea of copyright and share the files as is [09:33] Ariadne matey: that's why my criticism of FSF has focused on technical issues rather than social faux pas i have not personally witnessed [09:33] schestowitz-TR2 in 2006 some people wrongly perceived boycottnovell as an FSF project [09:33] Ariadne like how FSF encourages people to use insecure microcode rather than updating it [09:33] schestowitz-TR2 we had to repeatedly correct that assertion [09:33] Ariadne ideally, microcode would not exist, but updating it is important for security [09:34] matey like how FSF encourages people to use insecure microcode rather than updating it <- ive been trying to understand the microcode issue [09:34] matey leah says its not what people think it is... but im still not entirely clear on what it ACTUALLY is [09:34] matey because im not a hardware person [09:34] SomeH4x0r updates can be malicious as well [09:34] SomeH4x0r afk for now, I think [09:35] schestowitz-TR2 fwdup [09:35] Ariadne matey: basically x86 CPUs are buggy as fuck, and microcode updates turn on/off various chicken bits, or hotpatch the lookup table used by the instruction decoder [09:35] schestowitz https://fwupd.org/ [09:35] Ariadne these updates are also very small, there is not much they can do [09:35] TR Bot LVFS: Home [09:36] Ariadne spectre/meltdown mitigation requires a microcode update that switches IBRS on (a feature intel was not planning to release yet) [09:37] TR News IRC Proceedings: Friday, March 11, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/12/irc-log-110322/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/12/irc-log-110322/ [09:37] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Friday, March 11, 2022 | Techrights [09:38] matey i guess what im not clear on is how large the interface is that is patchable. [09:38] Ariadne its fairly narrow, and the patch ram is measured in individual words, not even KB [09:38] matey hmm... [09:39] matey that is really small [09:39] TR News Techrights Gemini capsule: 86,000 objects http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-110322.html#tMar%2011%2017:54:00 [09:39] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, March 11, 2022 [09:39] Ariadne usually microcode updates switch off broken features that failed QA testing but are enabled by default in silicon [09:39] matey if its literally just a series of bits, thats not even copyrightable [09:39] matey if its not copyrightable, it cant be non-free either. [09:40] matey i mean, theres ndas and trade secrets and whatever, but that doesnt apply here. anyone can just take it apart. [09:40] Ariadne because of competition, both intel and amd started encrypting them :( [09:40] matey ahhh i shouldve known [09:40] matey i knew there was something i was missing [09:41] matey but even so, its not actually non-free software [09:41] matey its not software at all. [09:41] Ariadne its ideally something your BIOS is taking care of at initial boot [09:41] Ariadne but people never update their firmware [09:41] Ariadne so Linux can hot-update the microcode at runtime [09:41] Ariadne (as can Windows) [09:42] matey as can any os i can think of [09:42] matey except probably haiku [09:42] matey but really you could port it im sure [09:42] Ariadne but like, intel has parts [09:42] Ariadne where VMX [09:42] Ariadne is initially configured in a way where using it will make the CPU trip CATERR [09:43] Ariadne because they made an oopsie-woopsie at the factory [09:43] matey right to repair is hopefully going to send hot pokers towards the idea that intel can just encrypt those patches [09:43] TR News Obarun 2022.03.12 https://web.obarun.org/ [09:43] TR Bot Obarun [09:44] matey i take it you cant just read the patch area after applying the patch and write your own patch that way [09:44] matey because its write only? [09:44] matey like you can set it but you cant read what youve set [09:45] Ariadne yes [09:45] matey sigh [09:45] Ariadne you can't observe the effects of the patch [09:45] Ariadne i mean [09:45] Ariadne you probably can [09:45] Ariadne there's a gazillion MSRs [09:45] matey i mean thats the only way the encryption would make any sense in the first place [09:45] Ariadne that these patches tickle [09:45] matey the chips vary that much? [09:45] matey even in this tiny interface? [09:46] Ariadne all CPUs have MSRs that leak internal state [09:46] matey not surprising [09:46] matey but to manage them all [09:46] matey would be a lot of work [09:46] Ariadne and yes, different SKUs have different bugs [09:46] Ariadne a microcode update file is a bundle of like [09:46] Ariadne tens of thousands of patches [09:47] Ariadne and some selection logic [09:47] TR News "What is particularly sad is the truths in that person's forum post. He referred to the great lie of "weapons of mass destruction" used as an excuse to invade Iraq. Yes, I believe that Tony Blair of the UK and George W. Bush are war criminals" https://bkhome.org/news/202203/the-sad-history-of-ukraine.html [09:47] TR Bot The sad history of Ukraine [09:47] Ariadne the chip picks the patches it needs and discards the rest [09:48] TR News "Crystal-ball gazing, trying to think of possible futures, none of it looks good. Is Moldova next on the invasion-list? Finland, if it chooses to join Nato?" https://bkhome.org/news/202203/the-sad-history-of-ukraine.html [09:48] matey and im sure someone already ruled out the idea of having a chip emulator to "receive" the update and read it that way [09:48] matey as its being written [09:49] matey because the encryption isnt in the software, its in the intel chip, or something like that [09:49] schestowitz-TR2 mr. easyos/puppylinux covers politics [09:50] TR News "There are tutorials on how to install EasyOS to a hard drive partition..." https://bkhome.org/news/202203/easier-frugal-install-of-easyos.html [09:50] TR Bot Easier frugal install of EasyOS [09:52] Ariadne matey: i mean, i'm sure AMD and Intel have cracked each other's microcode updates by now [09:52] Ariadne but the FSF believe that if you can author your own microcode updates, you can like radically change the behaviour of the CPU [09:53] Ariadne and it's just not true [09:53] Ariadne you can turn some features on, or off [09:53] matey and you can do it without knowing what youre doing [09:53] Ariadne and those features might be turned off for good reason, like they're broken [09:53] Ariadne both intel and amd have changelogs [09:53] Ariadne for their microcode updates [09:54] Ariadne can't *audit* it, but if you trust them already enough to do your computation on their chips... [09:54] Ariadne i personally, do not trust them [09:54] matey right [09:54] Ariadne and have been working to remove x86 from my infrastructure [09:55] matey it almost seems like they have a reasonable theory, which applies to a premise that isnt valid [09:55] matey the fsf [09:55] Ariadne outside x86, there are not "microcode updates" [09:55] matey because risc doesnt have microcode? [09:55] Ariadne generally speaking not in the same sense as x86 [09:56] matey right [09:56] Ariadne everything decodes instructions to granules at this point [09:56] Ariadne but in ARM and POWER, its basically static [09:56] matey im not sure when ill be able to support leahs solutions to all this [09:56] matey but im interested in what they say on the matter [09:56] Ariadne ARM and IBM just issue errata documents [09:56] matey and following it as it unfolds [09:57] matey and im pretty convinced ryf will flop anyway [09:57] matey a good idea, poorly implemented [09:57] Ariadne "on chips identifying themselves as part 0x80041376, tickle these MSRs with these values, to change X behavior" [09:58] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 38.51 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.31 [09:58] Ariadne ARM world especially love these MSRs [09:58] matey im interested in open hardware, and it seems clear we wont get there in a single "push" which is the only way fsf would accept it [09:58] Ariadne the apple M1 chip has like 1000+ of them [09:58] Ariadne its crazy [09:58] matey 1000 msrs? [09:58] Ariadne yeah [09:58] matey ugh [09:58] matey just for the m1! [09:59] Ariadne https://developer.arm.com/documentation/ddi0595/2020-12/AArch64-Registers/S3--op1---Cn---Cm---op2---IMPLEMENTATION-DEFINED-registers [09:59] Alternative link Cloudflare: arm.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.arm.com/documentation/ddi0595/2020-12/AArch64-Registers/S3--op1---Cn---Cm---op2---IMPLEMENTATION-DEFINED-registers [09:59] TR Bot Documentation Arm Developer [09:59] Ariadne its a shitshow on ARM [09:59] Ariadne there's literally [09:59] Ariadne hundreds [09:59] Ariadne in the base spec [09:59] Ariadne and then vendors ● Mar 12 [10:00] Ariadne add on hundreds to thousands more [10:00] matey im confused though [10:00] matey arm is risc, and it doesnt do updates in the... [10:00] *inky (~inky@178.78.151.121) has joined #techrights [10:00] matey the m1 isnt cisc is it? [10:00] TR News "Imagine my excitement when I discovered the new second edition of an important book by Brian W. Kernighan, one of the leading figures in the creation of Unix, author or co-author of many influential books, and a professor of Computer Science at Princeton University." https://opensource.com/article/22/3/review-understanding-digital-world [10:00] TR Bot the Digital World: My honest book review | Opensource.com [10:01] matey you said there are no microcode updates for risc, right? or for non-x86 really [10:01] Ariadne matey: m1 does not have microcode updates [10:01] matey okay good [10:01] Ariadne but all chips have MSRs [10:01] matey got it [10:01] Ariadne the m1 is actually [10:01] Ariadne a lot more secure [10:01] Ariadne than any of the x86 kit out there [10:01] matey but what are the msrs for (i dont know what they are) if theyre not for updates? [10:01] TR News "US software development company EPAM is one example: It is currently trying to find ways to relocate its displaced Ukrainian devs - all 14,000 of them, Thomson adds." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/ukraines_war_developers/ [10:01] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/ukraines_war_developers/ [10:01] TR Bot One person's war is another hemisphere's developer crunch The Register [10:01] Ariadne which is why i hope asahi matures first [10:01] matey the "r" is for register? [10:01] Ariadne matey: MSRs are for everything [10:02] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [10:02] Ariadne machine state register [10:02] matey okay [10:02] Ariadne for example [10:02] Ariadne interrupt delivery on M1 [10:02] Ariadne is done by tickling MSRs [10:02] Ariadne on the target core [10:02] matey mmhmm [10:03] matey /me imagines the machine code for these is insane [10:03] TR News Dirk Eddelbuettel: Rcpp 1.0.8.2: Hotfix release per CRAN request http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/03/11#rcpp_1.0.8.2 [10:03] TR Bot Thinking inside the box [10:04] matey is it harder to target them with a compiler? [10:04] Ariadne no [10:04] matey okay cool [10:04] TR News "If I am to believe various free software implementations talking to such boiler, the interpretation of the line of numbers differ between type of boiler and software version on the boiler." https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Publish_Hargassner_wood_chip_boiler_state_to_MQTT.html [10:04] TR Bot Petter Reinholdtsen: Publish Hargassner wood chip boiler state to MQTT [10:04] Ariadne even the ARM chromebooks [10:04] Ariadne are reasonably secure and performant [10:05] TR News XS versus clang: Infinite warnings http://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2022/03/xs-versus-clang-infinite-warnings.html [10:05] TR Bot versus clang: Infinite warnings | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org] [10:05] Ariadne and you can put normal linux or freebsd on them [10:05] matey who is competing with asahi linux? [10:05] matey to port to m1 [10:05] Ariadne corellium [10:05] matey and you dont like them? [10:06] TR News Only 3 out of 13 target Windows (this article conflates that with "PC") https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-typing-games/ [10:06] TR Bot 13 of the Best Typing Games and Apps for Everyone - Make Tech Easier [10:06] matey theres a lawsuit [10:06] matey between them and apple [10:06] schestowitz-TR2 copyrights [10:07] schestowitz https://publicknowledge.org/apple-v-corellium-demonstrates-a-clear-example-of-fair-use/ [10:07] TR Bot Apple v. Corellium Demonstrates a Clear Example of Fair Use - Public Knowledge [10:07] schestowitz https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/02/eff-court-security-research-fair-use [10:07] TR Bot EFF to Court: Security Research Is a Fair Use | Electronic Frontier Foundation [10:07] matey fair use applies to copyright, not patents [10:07] schestowitz https://www.law360.com/cybersecurity-privacy/articles/1465816/digital-rights-groups-ask-11th-circ-to-nix-apple-s-ip-appeal [10:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: law360.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.law360.com/cybersecurity-privacy/articles/1465816/digital-rights-groups-ask-11th-circ-to-nix-apple-s-ip-appeal [10:07] TR Bot Rights Groups Ask 11th Circ. To Nix Apple's IP Appeal - Law360 [10:07] matey and when its a hardware design, i dont know. [10:08] matey it should never be a legal problem to emulate a cpu. [10:08] matey in a world that isnt insane, which obviously isnt this one. [10:09] matey but i dont know what ariandes beef with corellium is-- maybe its just they suck at something technical and asahi is better. [10:09] matey so its a simple preference [10:09] schestowitz https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/08/10/apple-drops-corellium-lawsuit/ [10:09] Alternative link Cloudflare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/08/10/apple-drops-corellium-lawsuit/ [10:09] matey good [10:09] TR Bot Apple drops lawsuit against Corellium in confidential settlement - The Washington Post [10:09] schestowitz https://www.cyberscoop.com/apple-corellium-hacking-case/ [10:09] TR Bot reopens legal fight against security firm Corellium, raising concerns for ethical hackers - CyberScoop [10:10] schestowitz https://news.itsfoss.com/debian-linux-with-gnome-now-runs-on-apples-m1-mac-mini/ [10:10] Alternative link Cloudflare: itsfoss.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.itsfoss.com/debian-linux-with-gnome-now-runs-on-apples-m1-mac-mini/ [10:10] schestowitz ">Back in January, we got our first glimpse at the M1 running desktop Linux thanks to the team at Corellium." [10:10] TR Bot Debian Linux with GNOME Now Runs On Apple's M1 Mac Mini - It's FOSS News [10:10] schestowitz https://9to5mac.com/2019/12/30/corellium-ceo-says-apple-trying-to-eliminate-jailbreaks/ [10:10] TR Bot CEO says Apple is trying to 'eliminate public jailbreaks' with latest DMCA filing - 9to5Mac [10:10] matey ahh, so it is a copyright issue [10:10] schestowitz https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2020/01/13/apple-lawsuit-against-cyber-startup-threatens-dangerous-expansion-of-copyright-law/ [10:10] Alternative link Cloudflare: forbes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2020/01/13/apple-lawsuit-against-cyber-startup-threatens-dangerous-expansion-of-copyright-law/ [10:10] TR Bot Apple Lawsuit Against Cyber Startup Threatens Dangerous Expansion Of Copyright Law [10:10] matey via drm and dmca [10:10] schestowitz https://www.macrumors.com/2019/12/30/corellium-apple-jailbreaking-crack-down/ [10:10] Alternative link Cloudflare: macrumors.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.macrumors.com/2019/12/30/corellium-apple-jailbreaking-crack-down/ [10:10] TR Bot Accuses Apple of Using Lawsuit to 'Crack Down on Jailbreaking' - MacRumors [10:11] schestowitz https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/11/apple_corellium_lawsuit/ [10:11] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/11/apple_corellium_lawsuit/ [10:11] TR Bot Apple settles lawsuit against Corellium as iOS platform dictatorship looks more precarious The Register [10:11] schestowitz Apple lost. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-29/apple-loses-copyright-claims-against-virtual-iphone-maker [10:11] TR Bot - Are you a robot? [10:11] schestowitz https://www.maketecheasier.com/apple-loses-copyright-lawsuit-against-corellium-ios-clone/ [10:11] TR Bot Apple Loses Copyright Lawsuit Against Corellium for iOS Clone - Make Tech Easier [10:12] schestowitz 2020: https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/apple-aapl-loses-lawsuit-to-corellium-over-copyright-claim-2020-12-31 [10:12] Alternative link Cloudflare: nasdaq.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/apple-aapl-loses-lawsuit-to-corellium-over-copyright-claim-2020-12-31 [10:12] schestowitz https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/29/22205130/apple-corellium-dismissed-copyright-dmca-fair-use [10:12] schestowitz https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/apples-lawsuit-against-security-startup-corellium-partially-thrown-out/article33450865.ece [10:12] Alternative link Cloudflare: thehindubusinessline.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/apples-lawsuit-against-security-startup-corellium-partially-thrown-out/article33450865.ece [10:12] schestowitz context: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Corellium-Apple-M1-Early [10:12] Alternative link Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Corellium-Apple-M1-Early [10:13] schestowitz https://www.techtimes.com/articles/256041/20210117/linux-m1-chip-mac-corellium-releases-early-beta-new-os.htm [10:13] schestowitz https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210103/18001845988/part-apples-abuse-dmca-against-corellium-thrown-out-part-it-lives.shtml [10:13] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210103/18001845988/part-apples-abuse-dmca-against-corellium-thrown-out-part-it-lives.shtml [10:13] schestowitz it was an important reminder that Apple is an enemy to us [10:13] schestowitz and we should quit giving money to Apple [10:14] schestowitz it helps them abuse us and millions of fools [10:14] schestowitz though the latter is those fools' issue [10:14] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:14] schestowitz they do attack us too [10:14] schestowitz Tim Crook threatened to sue Palm when Jobs was still in charge [10:14] schestowitz I still use Palm [10:14] matey its a shame they bundle hardware and software like that [10:14] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [10:14] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [10:14] matey but so does windows [10:15] schestowitz https://youtube.076.ne.jp/watch?v=PJu9UkokzkY [10:15] TR Bot Richard Stallman on Steve Jobs Death - Invidious [10:15] schestowitz What he said towards the end [10:15] matey if only antitrust law did its job, you could buy a blank mac with no os [10:15] matey not that i would generally want one. [10:16] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162465 [10:16] matey only that it would be a step forward, perhaps a small one [10:16] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 antitrust law would not work or not be enforced [10:16] matey agreed [10:16] matey it rarely does [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 not in a country where the government it an extension of the corporations [10:16] matey right [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 and they steal from taxpayers to give more capital to the thieves [10:16] schestowitz-TR2 which basically sums up the US in the past 1-2 decades [10:16] matey of course [10:16] matey 4 [10:17] matey but more all the time [10:17] matey more in the past 2 im sure [10:17] schestowitz-TR2 [09:05] Pandemic plunder: 11 trillion more in PUBLIC DEBT. Who pockets it all? https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/11/700-us-billionaires-got-17-trillion-richer-during-two-years-pandemic [10:17] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/11/700-us-billionaires-got-17-trillion-richer-during-two-years-pandemic [10:17] TR Bot 700 US Billionaires Got $1.7 Trillion Richer During Two Years of Pandemic [10:17] schestowitz-TR2 there will be more in the next batch of Daily Links [10:18] schestowitz-TR2 buying the US government is a fraction of the above [10:18] schestowitz-TR2 there was recently an analysis [10:18] schestowitz-TR2 you can buy the gov. for less than a billion [10:18] schestowitz-TR2 Bloomberg bought Biden for a fraction of his savings [10:18] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/11/08/political-debt/ [10:18] TR Bot Who President Biden is Indebted to (e.g. Google Monopoly and the Financial Sector) | Techrights [10:18] schestowitz Bloomberg was the biggest public sponsor of Biden [10:19] schestowitz 'only 57,000,000 ($) [10:19] schestowitz how many days does that take him to "earn" it? [10:19] matey no matter who you vote for you always get powerful capitalist interests [10:19] schestowitz with speculations on "the market"? [10:20] schestowitz matey: that... AND COVID [10:20] schestowitz glad Biden stopped the pandemic [10:20] *perfector (~b9a37700@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [10:20] schestowitz soon a million dead [10:20] matey which brings me back to what i was saying about products [10:20] schestowitz don't worry, the media will find a creative way to blame that on "Trump" somehow [10:21] matey the problem with the medical industry, is theyre treating the cure as a product [10:21] schestowitz "trump lost control... something [add something here] something... so Biden cannot do anything now" [10:21] schestowitz Biden did not even distribute masks [10:21] matey some things should come before that, but not as you said, in "in a country where the government it an extension of the corporations" [10:21] schestowitz he said something about vaccine patent waiver [10:21] schestowitz but nothing got done [10:22] matey its almost as if politicians are professional liars or something [10:22] schestowitz that helps get promoted [10:22] schestowitz so it's a natural selection of sorts [10:22] schestowitz it's the same in the media [10:22] perfector politicians are spoke persons for TPB [10:22] matey indeed [10:23] schestowitz-TR2 the power that be? [10:23] schestowitz-TR2 the pirate bay? [10:23] matey powers that be [10:23] matey TPTB [10:24] matey for some reason i just read the second t even though it wasnt there [10:24] perfector thats what i meant [10:24] matey it made sense [10:25] TR News Connecting an electric typewriter to a modern computer https://jbb.ghsq.ga/2022/03/12/electric-typewriter.html [10:25] TR Bot Connecting an electric typewriter to a modern computer [10:26] TR News It needs external, real, physical keyboard though https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/steam-deck-gets-a-15fps-option-new-keyboard-themes [10:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/steam-deck-gets-a-15fps-option-new-keyboard-themes [10:26] TR Bot Deck gets a 15FPS option, new keyboard themes | GamingOnLinux [10:28] TR News "We care until it's inconvenient or unpopular or expensive to care. Forgive me for feeling pessimistic about COP26." gemini://sixohthree.com/log/packt-like-sardines.gmi [10:29] TR News "I've grown very fond of older tech. Me and kelbot egged each other on to get a Palm m500 and it's been pretty great!" I still have 2 Palm PDAs and use one of them. gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-09-25-2.gmi [10:30] TR News "I picked up a Palm Ultra-Thin Keyboard which is supposed to be better than the Portable Keyboard anyways so I'll probably be writing away on my Palm soon enough." On my Palm keyboard, which was shipped from the US more than 20 years ago (a real struggle), some keys no longer work. gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-09-25-2.gmi [10:31] TR News "with part of this being moving toward an "offline first" mode of computing, where I connect to the internet only when I need to for as long as I need to to accomplish some specific task. My primary motivation for this was to cut down on distraction and procrastination, both of which a permanent internet connection facilitates wonderfully" gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/~solderpunk/gemlog/progress-toward-offline-first.gmi [10:31] *matey has quit (connection closed) [10:35] TR News "deprecated a.out support with the promise to remove it a couple of releases later. That commit landed in v5.1. Now it is more than a couple of releases later, no one has complained so remove it." https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tip/tip.git/commit/?h=x86/cleanups&id=f9444ea5e20847d1dd4a98d4dff4cc97655834bb [10:35] TR Bot kernel/git/tip/tip.git - Unnamed repository; edit this file 'description' to name the repository. [10:35] perfector https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/10/picovoice-on-device-speech-to-text-engines-slash-the-requirements-and-cost-of-transcription/ [10:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/03/10/picovoice-on-device-speech-to-text-engines-slash-the-requirements-and-cost-of-transcription/ [10:35] TR Bot Picovoice on-device speech-to-text engines slash the requirements and cost of transcription - CNX Software [10:35] perfector that what you need for ircing [10:36] SomeH4x0r "deprecation" to break compatibility all the time [10:36] schestowitz-TR2 it does [10:37] TR News "That idea hadnt even been listed for twenty years before it was converted into code by HexTheDragon and landed in curl the other day (with this commit). To get included in the pending curl 7.83.0 release." https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/03/12/curl-no-clobber/ [10:37] Alternative link Cloudflare: haxx.se | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/03/12/curl-no-clobber/ [10:37] TR Bot no clobber | daniel.haxx.se [10:37] SomeH4x0r so that devilopers (and honest developers too) have to update stuff *all the time*, instead of writing it once and making it serve for decades [10:38] TR News Disclosure ('gift') missing https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zW8XeqCLf4o [10:38] TR Bot The Steam Deck transformed how I play games - Invidious [10:38] SomeH4x0r abandon it for a few years, and it suddenly no longer works on a new system [10:39] TR News "On Monday the Wikidata Data Reuse Days 2022 start, a series of online events from March 14 to March 24 for users of Wikidata content. Ill present KDEs use of Wikidata in our travel apps KTrip and KDE Itinerary on Thursday March 17 at 15:00 UTC." https://www.volkerkrause.eu/2022/03/12/kde-itinerary-wikidata-data-reuse-days-2022.html [10:39] TR Bot KDE Itinerary @ Wikidata Data Reuse Days 2022 [10:39] perfector is it me or the fps on that video are like 12 [10:40] schestowitz-TR2 let me check [10:40] schestowitz-TR2 just you [10:40] schestowitz-TR2 it's HD [10:40] perfector yim talking about fpd [10:40] schestowitz-TR2 I always amuse myself over people who put so much emphasis on video "quality" [10:40] perfector fps [10:40] schestowitz-TR2 as in crisness" [10:41] schestowitz-TR2 while the video themselves are marketing/webspam shite [10:41] schestowitz-TR2 nick already got banned from gulagtube [10:41] schestowitz-TR2 for shilling lousy products [10:41] perfector like youtube videos now are default to 60 fps [10:41] schestowitz-TR2 in exchange for money [10:41] schestowitz-TR2 now he does itr for valve [10:41] schestowitz-TR2 I thought about publishing a screenshot [10:42] schestowitz-TR2 but in his case the valve spam was just over 50% of the whole [10:42] schestowitz-TR2 not asd bad as Gardiner [10:42] perfector way to fuck up your mobile data plan for next to no gain [10:43] schestowitz-TR2 with those sites assessing video sites is not easy [10:43] perfector arguablly the human vision cant go over 25 fps [10:43] schestowitz-TR2 not without downloading raw file [10:44] schestowitz-TR2 in techrights we typically do about 200mb/hour, depending on whether it's lots of staic screen thing [10:44] schestowitz-TR2 3mb/min for video and audio is not bad [10:44] schestowitz "Download is disabled." [10:44] schestowitz Cannot download the ad [10:44] schestowitz sucks. ;p [10:44] schestowitz "Engagement: 12.5821%" [10:44] schestowitz They use that term [10:45] schestowitz Engagement [10:45] schestowitz welcome to gulagtube [10:45] schestowitz YOU.... are the preoduct [10:45] schestowitz YOUAreTheProductTube [10:45] perfector i dont get ads on yt [10:45] perfector so sorrry [10:46] schestowitz https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zW8XeqCLf4o [10:46] schestowitz " [10:46] TR Bot The Steam Deck transformed how I play games - Invidious [10:46] schestowitz Gaming On Linux [10:46] schestowitz So great to chat to you! Would love to do it again! [10:46] schestowitz " [10:47] perfector that guy looks a bit to hold to be playing games [10:48] schestowitz-TR2 influencers p;lay other games [10:48] schestowitz-TR2 gaming the results in gulagtube [10:48] schestowitz-TR2 for ad money [10:49] perfector on you tube the video plays fine [10:49] perfector its something with the indivius video [10:50] perfector indevidues [10:51] perfector probablly something with crap codec [10:54] perfector As of September 1st 2020, invidio.us has closed down. [10:54] perfector To see this content, please select another instance, [10:54] perfector or visit directly on YouTube. [10:54] perfector lol [10:57] TR News roadtest: a driver testing framework https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220311162445.346685-1-vincent.whitchurch@axis.com/ [10:57] TR Bot [RFC v1 00/10] roadtest: a driver testing framework - Vincent Whitchurch [10:59] perfector how do i know what drivers are in use on my distro? ● Mar 12 [11:04] SomeH4x0r lsmod, iiuc [11:05] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@bxmrpgn5xvtey.irc) has joined #techrights [11:05] perfector are they selscted at every boot? [11:06] perfector or at install? [11:06] DaemonFC Stallman still apparently thinks the UN is relevant. [11:06] DaemonFC It's turned into the League of Nations only worse. [11:06] DaemonFC More concerned about funding its own internal corruption than anything else. [11:07] DaemonFC At this point, it would be legitimate to reclaim the building in New York, disband the UN by force, and start over without Russia and China. [11:07] perfector the UN is relevant. to pick up the pieces [11:08] DaemonFC Russia and China are sabotaging the mission of peace. They want to lay claim to land where millions of people live and don't want them, and never turn it back over to their local government. [11:08] perfector start over without Russia and China. that would make it even more relevant [11:08] DaemonFC Which is worse than anything the United States has done recently. [11:08] perfector irelevant [11:09] DaemonFC Russia wanted into NATO under Bill Clinton. [11:09] immibis ah yes, because russia and china are not nations [11:09] DaemonFC Had that happened, they would have prevented it from functioning too. [11:10] DaemonFC One of the worst things the United States ever did was recognize the Communist regime in China. [11:10] DaemonFC Instead of refusing to recognize it, laying sanctions immediately, and refusing to trade with it. [11:10] immibis perfector: linux drivers are either compiled into the kernel, or loaded on-demand from separate files. Most of them support either mode. Which one you are actually using depends on how your distro kernel is configured [11:11] DaemonFC At the time of the Korean War, China committed indirect and direct hostilities towards the United States. [11:11] DaemonFC Which was more than ample grounds to destroy their ability to make war. [11:12] DaemonFC You don't have to make occupation a goal to start ruining their ability to produce munitions and their infrastructure and smack them down good and hard and keep them that way. [11:13] DaemonFC In fact, that's better. Most of you losses in a war come when you try to occupy, which usually fails. [11:13] schestowitz https://brilliantmaps.com/threat-to-peace/ [11:13] Alternative link Cloudflare: brilliantmaps.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://brilliantmaps.com/threat-to-peace/ [11:13] TR Bot Which Country Is The Greatest Threat to World Peace? Brilliant Maps [11:13] DaemonFC *your [11:13] schestowitz Amerecans bashing UN is a hoot [11:13] schestowitz same for China bashing [11:13] schestowitz or Russia bashing [11:13] DaemonFC The UN is fucking stupid at this point. [11:13] schestowitz for being in the UN [11:14] DaemonFC The only thing it contributes to the US is to allow some tinpot dictators a platform and to allow a bunch of "diplomats" from shithole countries in to ignore our laws, drive drunk, and run over people in New York City. [11:15] DaemonFC Then in return we get "dues" assessed so the UN can do what exactly? [11:15] DaemonFC They have no admirable goals which succeed. It's just a lot of useless talking. [11:15] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index [11:15] TR Bot Global Peace Index - Wikipedia [11:15] DaemonFC Sitting around blowing a bunch of hot air. [11:16] DaemonFC We can accomplish our diplomatic goals directly with the countries we have embassies in and do not need the UN at all. [11:16] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Peace_Index#Global_Peace_Index_rankings_(2008%E2%80%932019) [11:16] TR Bot Global Peace Index - Wikipedia [11:17] DaemonFC The only reason the US is still in the UN is to prevent it from completely being a corrupt puppet for countries without any freedom or democracy. [11:17] schestowitz US getting worse and worse each year [11:17] DaemonFC Notice the key word being "any". [11:17] schestowitz even after Bush [11:17] DaemonFC China and Russia have NO freedom and NO democracy, at all, of any sort. [11:17] DaemonFC And you get killed or sent to a gulag if you speak up against Putin or Xi. [11:17] schestowitz US 128th [11:17] schestowitz KSA 129th [11:18] schestowitz Saudi and US :-) [11:18] schestowitz twins [11:18] schestowitz Iceland is always #1 [11:19] DaemonFC I have no idea how the US gets bashed like this when about 75% of the countries on Earth are less free and the two major aggressors internationally in the past two decades are Russia and China. [11:19] schestowitz NZ in 2nd or 3rds [11:19] DaemonFC If there is anything like the Axis of World War II going on in this decade, it's Russia and China. [11:19] *CrystalMath (~coderain@jfuej3t2in2c6.irc) has joined #techrights [11:19] DaemonFC And they have satellite states. For Russia, it's the CIS and they've both been busy in South America. [11:20] DaemonFC China plans to pretty much copy the playbook of Imperial Japan from WWII. [11:20] DaemonFC Move in, take over almost every Asian country by force, and then rape, loot, and pillage. [11:21] DaemonFC The risk of an invasion of Taiwan is worse now than it ever has been. Odds are high that they take advantage of the Ukraine Crisis by betting that we can box Russia in but would be far less successful trying to deal with them at the same time. [11:21] DaemonFC But that's not necessarily where they would start. [11:21] TR News 2021: "Hello from my Palm m500! Unlike last time I'm writing on an actual real Palm Ultra-Thin Keyboard rather than slowly and painfully writing out paragraphs in Graffiti." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-10-06.gmi [11:22] DaemonFC Taiwan is a tougher nut to crack than some places they could invade. [11:22] DaemonFC But what adds to the risk is that they could use the "Putin defense" that it was theirs all along anyway. [11:23] TR News "If you're interested in getting a PDA, I would get one now because I think we're right on the border of them being old enough to be cool again and they'll get really expensiveright now we're still in the "they're junk so I'm giving them away for cheap" stage." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-10-06.gmi [11:23] DaemonFC Even though almost everyone on the island happens to disagree with that and would never willingly accept Chinese occupation. So what would necessarily happen is a decapitation of the government followed by a brutal crackdown on the public. [11:23] DaemonFC Mass arrests, public executions, etc. [11:23] DaemonFC Until everyone is too afraid to do anything to oppose them. This is what despots have to do to rule a place. [11:24] TR News "Diop underscored that women are mainly the ones who are severely affected but stressed the "resilience of women in Africa" is not publicized well enough." https://www.dailysabah.com/world/africa/au-special-envoy-coins-woman-as-soft-power-in-politics [11:24] TR Bot AU special envoy coins "woman" as soft power in politics | Daily Sabah [11:24] DaemonFC The rest of the world has grown fat and weak. [11:25] DaemonFC It's been so long since they were self-sufficient, there's no easy way out now. [11:25] DaemonFC They've lost their skills and factories to Chinese sweatshops. [11:25] DaemonFC They got colonized by debt. [11:25] DaemonFC That's what's been going wrong in the US. [11:26] DaemonFC The colleges here love the Chinese money and they give the Communist Party total control over their university so it keeps coming. [11:27] DaemonFC The Attorney General in Indiana opened an investigation into the state university system over these "Chinese cultural exchange programs" which are really just the Communist Party's way of getting in and corrupting the curriculum to spread their vile propaganda. [11:27] TR News Slackware on Calibre 5.x - I cant create a working package | Alien Pastures https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/calibre-5-x-i-cant-create-a-working-package/ [11:27] TR Bot Calibre 5.x I cant create a working package | Alien Pastures [11:28] DaemonFC schestowitz, It's so fucking stupid, like, the Immigration system in the US asks if you're a Communist and it's a bar on admission, but they let the Communists brainwash most people who go to college here. Most Americans. [11:28] TR News Bloat on top of bloat on top of bloat. https://www.cloudsavvyit.com/15529/how-to-dockerize-a-node-js-web-app/ [11:28] TR Bot How to Dockerize a Node.js Web App CloudSavvy IT [11:28] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: you are full of BS [11:28] DaemonFC The Communist Control Act should be enforced much harder than it currently is. [11:29] schestowitz-TR2 and it's the wrong channel for this BS [11:29] DaemonFC And amended to keep out the "Chinese cultural exchange" programs that are propaganda in disguise. [11:29] DaemonFC They should arrest college professors and administrators who let this stuff in. [11:29] DaemonFC Send them off to prison for five years. [11:29] schestowitz-TR2 now you sound like Pol Pot [11:30] DaemonFC Our prison system is better than how most people in China live. [11:30] DaemonFC You just never get to see what kind of hell living in China is because they're very controlling over what gets out. [11:30] TR News Astro Slide 5G Hands-On: Slider in your hand, Debian in your pocket Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162466 [11:31] TR Bot Astro Slide 5G Hands-On: Slider in your hand, Debian in your pocket | Tux Machines [11:31] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_rates [11:31] TR Bot List of countries by incarceration rate - Wikipedia [11:31] DaemonFC Survivors of their work camps who manage to get out of the country describe the conditions, but the rags that pass for media in the US never offend the Communist Party. [11:31] DaemonFC The "re-education through hard labor" system in China never went away. [11:32] DaemonFC It's where they send anyone who does a web search involving "wrongthink". [11:32] schestowitz in iceland only 120 are in prison [11:32] DaemonFC In Iceland they don't have a Chicago. [11:32] schestowitz US 2,094,000 [11:32] DaemonFC We all know what's wrong with Chicago. [11:32] DaemonFC Look at the news every day. There's pictures. [11:33] DaemonFC 90% of your problem. 2% of the population. [11:33] DaemonFC You have leftist judges letting them out on bail when they're up on murder. [11:33] schestowitz USA #1 [11:33] DaemonFC Then they commit more crimes on bail because those lunatics running the courts forgot why the fuck they're even there. [11:33] schestowitz per capita [11:33] schestowitz higher than El Salvador [11:34] schestowitz USA made is a for-profit industry [11:34] DaemonFC schestowitz, I'll tell you what stops recidivism when the courts break down. [11:34] DaemonFC Smith and Wesson [11:34] schestowitz not solving the issue [11:34] schestowitz to have "repat customers" [11:34] schestowitz *repeat [11:34] schestowitz anyway, back to tech [11:34] schestowitz bbl [11:35] DaemonFC schestowitz, There were some thugs that figured 78 year old man on south side of Chicago in his garage minding his own business, working on his car. [11:35] DaemonFC Easy target for a mugging, right? [11:35] DaemonFC They picked the wrong 78 year old man to fuck with. [11:35] DaemonFC He was a Conceal and Carry license holder, shot and killed both of them. [11:35] DaemonFC Two less criminals on the street. [11:35] DaemonFC The city came by and picked up the bodies. [11:36] DaemonFC He's alive. No telling what other crimes he prevented, against how many other people who are just trying to go about their day. [11:36] DaemonFC They should pin a medal on him. [11:37] DaemonFC Most people like the two he plugged would go on to live years more, racking up hundreds of additional offenses, officially, and thousands that never get solved. [11:37] DaemonFC We all know when you catch someone on one crime, it means they did a hundred other things and nobody caught them. [11:37] perfector they should give him a retirement plan at the state pen [11:37] DaemonFC It's not illegal to defend yourself from a crime in progress. [11:38] perfector killing doesnt sound like defense to me [11:38] DaemonFC The reason Chicago is breaking down is because the court system is so jaded that the judges slap people on the wrist over felonies. [11:38] DaemonFC And then things escalate. [11:39] DaemonFC Because they don't send these idiots away for so long that they forget their own name by the time they get out when they carjack or rob a store at gunpoint, they graduate to murders. [11:39] DaemonFC There isn't a place, even in Florida, that's half as screwed up as Chicago [11:40] DaemonFC And it's because Florida has a 10-20-LIFE law on gun offenses. Not gun owners. Gun offenses. [11:40] perfector if there wasnt guns ther woudlnt be gun offensses [11:40] DaemonFC People in Chicago who our system has let go a bunch of times sometimes cross over into Indiana or Wisconsin and find a functional court system. [11:41] DaemonFC And "You're fucked now, motherfucker! Hahaha! Don't drop the soap!". [11:41] DaemonFC :) [11:41] DaemonFC Because they do one violent felony over there and the least they're going away for is 20 or 30 years. [11:42] DaemonFC Someone pulled a gun on me in Chicago, got house arrest. [11:42] DaemonFC I was like, are you fucking kidding me. [11:42] TR News It's amusing. There's this vegetarian alternative to meat in the fridge. It says in massive fonts, all caps, right at the front: "CARBON NEUTRAL". Greenwashing marketing for overpriced foods. Livestock is more expensive to grow than vegetables. [11:43] DaemonFC Now with those liberal lunatics in the prosecutor's office, they wouldn't even get that. [11:43] DaemonFC perfector, One part of Star Trek that made me laugh was when they explained that they no longer had a need for much incarceration because they figured out how to deal with the root cause of all crime. [11:44] DaemonFC I said, "Yeah, that episode where you gave them all their own planet and they developed a feudal system with warlords. It was in Season 1.". [11:45] immibis schestowitz: NZ may be up there in peace, but its economy is quickly sliding towards russia's or venezuela's or zimbabwe's [11:46] DaemonFC Remember how "progressive" Star Trek was? mjg59_ said that it was very progressive in the 80s. In the 80s, there was a Season 1 episode of TNG where an entire planet full of black people had women battle each other to see who would become one of the wives of the alpha men, which meant property. [11:46] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:46] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@u24cqz6d6jkie.irc) has joined #techrights [11:46] DaemonFC And the episode is inconvenient now that Hollyweirdos are supporting Burn Loot Murder. [11:46] DaemonFC So now there's "regrets" that it was ever filmed, says Jonathan Frakes. [11:47] DaemonFC I'm surprised the episode is still on netflix considering that they were talking about deleting it and just never allowing anyone to watch it again. [11:47] DaemonFC You change history when you delete something, you know. [11:48] DaemonFC https://trekmovie.com/2020/06/14/jonathan-frakes-and-denise-crosby-cant-see-star-trek-tngs-racially-charged-code-of-honor-playing-now/ [11:48] TR Bot Frakes And Denise Crosby Cant See Star Trek: TNGs Racially Charged Code of Honor Playing Now TrekMovie.com [11:48] schestowitz immibis: I did not hear that [11:48] schestowitz is that due to debt? [11:48] schestowitz isolation? [11:48] DaemonFC Of course it wouldn't. This episode portrayed black people as primitive backsavages. [11:48] DaemonFC It's incredibly racist, and the fact that they did it....for money, says that they had no problem with it then. [11:48] schestowitz DaemonFC: quit provoking [11:48] DaemonFC And were probably forced to say they did now if they wanted to keep working in that city. [11:48] schestowitz go provoke your husband [11:49] schestowitz don't ruin this IRC network [11:49] schestowitz immibis: URL? [11:49] perfector fight club is next door [11:49] schestowitz fwiw, nz and peace is not a good mix [11:49] DaemonFC What makes it even funnier is that Star Trek went worse than that. [11:49] schestowitz NZ plays a role in dirty wars [11:49] schestowitz and then covers that up [11:50] DaemonFC In the episode, it's stated that the planet of black people "aren't human". [11:50] DaemonFC Oops. [11:50] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicky_Hager [11:50] TR Bot Nicky Hager - Wikipedia [11:50] DaemonFC Oh well. Thanks to the magic of streaming, you can just skip that episode and never talk about it again. [11:50] DaemonFC Of course there's all those DVDs out there, and pirates.... [11:50] DaemonFC And it's on Blu Ray, remastered. [11:51] schestowitz "Hager is an investigative journalist who has written seven books. As of July 2019, the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ), an international network that has 249 investigative reporters in over 90 countries, has Hager as one of only two New Zealand members" [11:51] DaemonFC They spent a million dollars just remastering that episode. [11:51] schestowitz "Secret Power: New Zealand's Role in the International Spy Network, published in 1996, was Hager's first book." [11:51] perfector that why in the usa now days there is not humans aren't a species they are a race now [11:51] schestowitz "As a result, the insights into the inner workings of the GCSB provide information about the allied agencies as well. In particular, Hager documented the US-coordinated ECHELON system, through which the five agencies intercept and process huge volumes of international e-mail, fax and telephone communications. Hager was one of the earliest to write about the secretive ECHELON worldwide electronic spy network. As a result of his book, in 2001 he [11:51] schestowitz testified before the European Parliament on his research into the network" [11:51] perfector they say human race [11:51] DaemonFC There's extremely racist overtones, and undertones, in that episode. [11:51] perfector how retarded can it be [11:52] DaemonFC And now that Star Trek has been sexist, racist, openly homophobic, for decades on end.... [11:52] schestowitz his work is very imporant [11:52] DaemonFC They are overcompensating badly in their new shows. [11:52] schestowitz so of course he got raised like Kim Scmitz/Dotcom [11:52] schestowitz *Sch [11:52] perfector DaemonFC stop flodding [11:52] schestowitz *raided [11:53] schestowitz NZ "peace": "In March 2017, Hager and fellow journalist Jon Stephenson published Hit & Run: The New Zealand SAS in Afghanistan and the meaning of honour. The book explored the New Zealand Special Air Service's involvement in Operation Burnham, a retaliatory military raid on two Afghan villages, Naik and Khak Khuday Dad, in Afghanistan's Tirgiran Valley in August 2010." [11:53] schestowitz "Following the formation of a new Labour-New Zealand First-Greens coalition government after the 2017 general election, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Defence Minister Ron Mark announced in early November that they would hold an inquiry into the allegations raised by Hit & Run" [11:53] perfector ~they also had a black woman part of the crew in startrek [11:53] DaemonFC The truth is that people in liberal cities who want to keep their jobs figure out "the right thing to say" and the "right boxes to tick" to stay employed, and that's that. I'm sure if we had someone reading out Mr. Gulag's inner monologue, it would be very entertaining. [11:53] schestowitz "In mid-June 2018, Hager accepted an apology and compensation for "substantial damages" from the New Zealand Police for raiding his home in 2014 as part of their investigation into the hacking that led to the Dirty Politics book. The Police also acknowledged accessing his financial records as part of the apology settlement.[20][21][22]" [11:54] schestowitz Wikileaks could relate on numerous level [11:54] schestowitz 1)it was retrobution [11:54] schestowitz 2) it was unjust [11:54] DaemonFC It's not just race. They have to figure out how to be environmentalists too, while trashing the planet with Teslas. [11:54] schestowitz 3) it covered up for the actual criminals [11:54] schestowitz 4) attack on freedom of the press [11:55] schestowitz DaemonFC: quit aggressing people [11:55] schestowitz it's not the place [11:55] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicky_Hager#/media/File:Nicky_Hager-DirtyPolsLaunch1.jpg [11:55] TR Bot Nicky Hager - Wikipedia [11:55] DaemonFC You know, for the right price you can make gasoline or something compatible out of almost anything, including by pulling hydrocarbons out of the air. [11:56] DaemonFC People just don't give a shit. They really don't. [11:56] SomeH4x0r send proper direct links [11:56] SomeH4x0r not this JS-dependent [11:57] SomeH4x0r https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/Nicky_Hager-DirtyPolsLaunch1.jpg [11:57] Alternative link Cloudflare: wikimedia.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/Nicky_Hager-DirtyPolsLaunch1.jpg [11:57] DaemonFC I don't think people who live in ivory towers really get how dumb the average person is. I tried to go eat Christmas dinner at a restaurant with my spouse and 4 adults got into a food fight. [11:58] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 57.15 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.33 [11:58] DaemonFC I don't know if that's fallout from the coal plant landing on people here or what. But it seems to be the average for people in this area. [11:59] TR News You Can Build Your Own Sushi Train https://hackaday.com/2022/03/11/you-can-build-your-own-sushi-train/ [11:59] TR Bot Can Build Your Own Sushi Train | Hackaday [11:59] DaemonFC Remember that movie Dawn of the Dead where the guy says when Hell is full, the dead will walk the Earth? [11:59] schestowitz-TR2 SomeH4x0r: yes, they handle iomage weirdly [11:59] DaemonFC That's what's going on in Illinois involving criminals and the penal system. [11:59] schestowitz-TR2 also makes them hard to download [11:59] schestowitz-TR2 maybe by intention [11:59] perfector Hell is full, the dead will walk the Earth? thats from the sriptures ● Mar 12 [12:00] perfector its rapture thing [12:00] DaemonFC Yes, my mother thinks cans of creamed corn under the bed will be useful then. Like her mother did. [12:01] DaemonFC All bloated up because nobody ever ate it. [12:01] DaemonFC While food prices soar and you have crazy people sleeping on thousands of swollen cans of expired food. [12:02] DaemonFC The price of rice is up like 58% since 2020. [12:02] DaemonFC It's pretty clear that they're doing this because they can, and pretty much no other reason than that even registers. [12:03] DaemonFC California keeps fucking things up, well beyond the borders of their state. [12:03] perfector they're doing this because they can [12:03] DaemonFC They pass cage free egg laws, you pay 30% more for eggs in the entire country. [12:03] perfector i see what you did there [12:04] DaemonFC Mr. Gulag deserves to be egged, twice. Once for being from California. Again for being from Ireland. [12:04] DaemonFC Except you can't afford eggs to do it with now because of California. [12:06] DaemonFC I wish someone would sue California about the eggs and bacon laws. [12:06] DaemonFC They're fucking up the national economy, which means that they've stepped over the line. [12:06] perfector are you copy pasting all this DaemonFC? [12:07] DaemonFC No, just tired of this shit. Someone in California has a bad idea and we all have to suffer because they're there. [12:07] perfector california ubber alles [12:09] perfector russia is talking about bioagents [12:10] perfector that could affect al europe [12:11] schestowitz-TR2 url?/ [12:11] schestowitz-TR2 the media is full of BVS [12:11] schestowitz-TR2 unreadable [12:12] schestowitz-TR2 no humans, no "economy" [12:12] schestowitz https://www.rt.com/news/441631-putin-nuclear-holocaust-heaven/ [12:12] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.rt.com/news/441631-putin-nuclear-holocaust-heaven/ ) [12:13] schestowitz-TR2 wow, they run advanced ddos protection now [12:13] schestowitz-TR2 RT [12:13] schestowitz " [12:13] schestowitz This site cant be reached [12:13] schestowitz The connection was reset. [12:13] schestowitz " [12:14] XRevan86 perfector: It's shocking that biolabs exist. [12:15] XRevan86 All scientists are sorcerers and very scary. [12:15] schestowitz-TR2 cranks do too [12:15] schestowitz-TR2 and in recent years it was popular a view that such labs were "bioweapons" [12:15] schestowitz-TR2 made to induce extermination en masse [12:15] schestowitz-TR2 so russian propaganda latched on to this [12:16] schestowitz-TR2 "OMG! Ukraine has labs with biologists!!!" [12:16] XRevan86 Unfortunately it's not just propaganda, Russia is using this rhetoric officially. [12:16] schestowitz-TR2 yes, I am aware [12:16] XRevan86 The bar is *this low* now. [12:16] schestowitz-TR2 like it was some US plot to attack Russia [12:16] schestowitz-TR2 heck, why do this in ukraine? [12:16] schestowitz-TR2 the US could do it domestically and then export it [12:16] schestowitz-TR2 so that doesn't add up [12:17] schestowitz-TR2 smell test [12:17] XRevan86 schestowitz: Russia's also talking about ethnical weapons. [12:17] schestowitz-TR2 Russia as in the nregime [12:17] schestowitz-TR2 I bet many Russians are LOLing at it [12:17] XRevan86 yea [12:17] schestowitz-TR2 or staying quiet [12:17] schestowitz-TR2 not a good time to be "unpatriotic" [12:18] DaemonFC "Saddam Hussein has WMDs. We need to stop him before there's a mushroom cloud." [12:18] TR News Links 12/3/2022: Wine 7.4 and OpenZFS 2.1.3 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/12/openzfs-2-1-3/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/12/openzfs-2-1-3/ [12:18] TR Bot Links 12/3/2022: Wine 7.4 and OpenZFS 2.1.3 | Techrights [12:18] schestowitz-TR2 if they believed it, putin would not be blocking so much of the Net [12:19] schestowitz-TR2 btw, XRevan86, before I quit Twitter [12:19] schestowitz-TR2 8 days ago [12:19] schestowitz-TR2 I gor some of this Russia BS in my notifications [12:19] schestowitz-TR2 people pushing this through the social control media giant [12:20] schestowitz-TR2 Twitter is a cesspool [12:20] schestowitz-TR2 and it's worse than a waste of time [12:20] schestowitz-TR2 it's actively harmful [12:20] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162467 [12:20] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:20] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162468 [12:20] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [12:20] TR News Devices/Embedded Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162469 [12:20] TR Bot Devices/Embedded Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:21] schestowitz-TR2 I partioned myself off Twitter for years [12:21] schestowitz-TR2 like put out of the browser outside the screen [12:21] schestowitz-TR2 to avoid Twitter putting the BS on the sidebar in view [12:21] schestowitz-TR2 in the past I wrote special rules of qupzilla to do this [12:21] schestowitz-TR2 but then they started to shove it alternqatively [12:22] schestowitz-TR2 ads in timelines, searches and cracks in your notifications [12:22] schestowitz-TR2 which are not filtered notifications [12:22] schestowitz-TR2 BTW, twitter should have notification filters like in diaspora and minds [12:22] schestowitz-TR2 where you can narrow it down to replies only [12:22] schestowitz-TR2 it has only two modues [12:22] schestowitz-TR2 mentions/all [12:23] schestowitz-TR2 any crack can mention anyone [12:27] DaemonFC https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/03/11/world/ukraine-russia-news#the-far-right-complains-after-the-search-engine-duckduckgo-vows-to-limit-russian-propaganda [12:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/03/11/world/ukraine-russia-news#the-far-right-complains-after-the-search-engine-duckduckgo-vows-to-limit-russian-propaganda [12:27] TR Bot What Happened on Day 16 of Russias Invasion of Ukraine - The New York Times [12:27] DaemonFC "The far right complains after the search engine DuckDuckGo vows to limit Russian propaganda." [12:28] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: siren) [12:29] DaemonFC "DuckDuckGo controls about 3 percent of the search engine market in the United States." [12:30] DaemonFC It doesn't control anything. It rebrands Microsoft. [12:31] DaemonFC https://www.seattletimes.com/business/fed-up-with-google-conspiracy-theorists-turn-to-duckduckgo/ [12:31] DaemonFC Joe Rogan recommended DuckDuckGo to anti-vaxxers. [12:32] activelow ddg seems ok, with particular security measures in place i prefer it over google [12:32] DaemonFC "Right-wing influencers" recommending DuckDuckGo. [12:32] DaemonFC They were obviously paying money for that. [12:32] DaemonFC They give Rogan money, he recommends them to nutcases. [12:32] activelow without some of those additional security measures i wouldn't touch neither ddg nor google [12:32] activelow no-javascript, and VPN [12:33] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:37] XRevan86 schestowitz: I'd expect Twitter to actually do something about it. [12:37] activelow and whoever this "far-right" was supposed to be, i am only aware of the fact RT satellite tv broadcasting was cut-off in Europe/Germany, before olympic games already [12:37] XRevan86 Even DDG is demoting major Russian propaganda websites. [12:37] XRevan86 Seems redundant considering that it sources its results from Bing. But maybe it's because for Russian it sources from Yandex. [12:38] XRevan86 Although in that case it would've made more sense to ditch Yandex. [12:39] XRevan86 Yandex is not happy about what's happening, but it is collaborating. [12:39] DaemonFC https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/uber-gas-fee [12:39] immibis http://www.madore.org/~david/misc/freespeech.html an interesting idea for censorship evasion - make it impossible to figure out who is actually guilty [12:40] DaemonFC $70 for a 6 mile Uber ride wasn't enough? [12:40] DaemonFC It's already twice as expensive as calling a taxi. [12:41] activelow yandex.com fails with netsurf browser... ddg works flawless [12:41] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, Back when Uber and Lyft were content to lose money on every ride to gain marketshare, a guy I know named Evan was using Lyft to get to work every day. [12:41] DaemonFC Shit kept happening, like one Lyft driver even got on the freeway going the wrong direction. [12:42] activelow nope, seems yandex blocks VPN only, with a captcha; which is reason enough to refrain given ddg exists [12:43] DaemonFC Browsing with a VPN gets a bit weird sometimes, not as bad as trying to use Tor though. [12:45] *inky has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [12:45] *inky_ (~inky@178.78.151.121) has joined #techrights [12:45] activelow anyway, i have another "theory" concerning corn/wheat/maize prices: "bio" ethane fuel, E10 petrol [12:46] activelow given the fact, both the ukraine and russian pipelines continued operation at 100%; i do not know what the "bio" ethane was produced from [12:47] activelow yet, ukraine/belarus/russia are the main exporters of corn/wheat/maize [12:53] activelow officially "EU" produces 100% of corn/wheat/maize domestically; however, E10 petrol is imported [12:54] activelow the E10 "bio" ethane fuel was introduced by, "Alliance90/greens" "pacifists", 20 years ago, when they hijacked government, with yugo war following [12:55] activelow then, Iraq war 2004, then they were kicked out of government; [12:55] activelow 20 years later, those hijacked government again, few days later: war [12:56] activelow as far as "right-wing" was concerned, who are the followers of the "social ecological justice" "green new deal" then? [12:59] DaemonFC E10 in the US being mandated massively increased food prices. [12:59] activelow in parallel, Chinese government, seems slightly worried too, wherever Russian/Ukraine/White-Russian corn/wheat/maize is imported/exported [12:59] DaemonFC It's designed to drive up demand for corn. It makes no sense as an energy policy. ● Mar 12 [13:00] DaemonFC You get about 70% as far per gallon of ethanol vs gasoline but the total carbon emissions are actually higher than burning straight up gasoline if you account for the energy consumption for growing and processing corn into alcohol and then transporting it to be blended. [13:00] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@gbruhby3sbnks.irc) has joined #techrights [13:00] schestowitz-TR2 activelow: congrats on using microsoft for your search :-D [13:00] schestowitz-TR2 stay around for the "Linux" results [13:00] DaemonFC The whole idea of cutting the gas with it is because alcohol is extremely corrosive and ruins engines and fuel systems. [13:00] DaemonFC Especially the rubber and plastic bits. [13:01] schestowitz-TR2 DDG = Microsoft Bing 'skin' [13:01] DaemonFC You have to have a special "hardened" fuel system to handle higher blends than about 15% ethanol without ruining your car. [13:04] bnchs__ schestowitz-TR2, ddg is server-side proprietary [13:05] bnchs__ i wouldn't mind that if they didn't say at all that they outsource their index to bing [13:05] activelow DDG uses various content clusters for their results, including Bing, Yahoo, and others; and quality of DDG seems ok.; no advertisements [13:06] bnchs__ just wait until you search some kind of C or POSIX function [13:06] bnchs__ it will favor microsoft up on the top [13:07] activelow "POSIX read()" returns the man pages/doc from all major vendors; no bias [13:07] immibis DaemonFC: is that accounting for the CO2 removed by growing corn? [13:08] bnchs__ https://duckduckgo.com/?q=inet_pton&t=h_&ia=web [13:08] bnchs__ microsoft on top [13:08] bnchs__ first result is microsoft [13:08] bnchs__ and then IBM [13:08] immibis bnchs__: not really unusual, windows IS the largest used desktop operating system. It's not clear-cut whether you'd expect it to return Linux or Windows results [13:08] immibis Google will learn that your preference is one or the other; DDG should not. [13:08] immibis personalized search results are often actually better [13:09] bnchs__ activelow, heres also the results for "posix read" [13:09] bnchs__ https://duckduckgo.com/?q=posix+read&t=h_&ia=web [13:09] bnchs__ first result is also microsoft [13:09] bnchs__ immibis: yes i know [13:09] immibis DaemonFC: regardless of what you think about ethanol, oil has to go away. You are free to choose electric car, electric/normal bike or public transport [13:10] DaemonFC No thanks. [13:10] immibis the problem is not the fact that driving emits CO2; it's the fact that driving emits CO2 that wasn't in the atmosphere for millions of years. When you burn plants it's relatively okay, because you're just putting back what you already took out. [13:10] DaemonFC You never break even on those things. [13:10] immibis what does "break even" mean? financially? [13:11] immibis because yes, the financial system is mega-fucked and it doesn't actually allocate resources the way it's meant to [13:11] DaemonFC The electric cars are basically twice as expensive as a normal car, then you have a battery system to replace when it fails, and then all sorts of extra computers and sensors, and regenerative braking parts. [13:11] DaemonFC A brake job isn't the cost of pads and maybe rotors anymore. [13:11] bnchs__ immibis: but there's no difference between microsoft's implementation of inet_pton and other OSes's implementation of inet_pton [13:11] immibis DaemonFC: I gave you three other suggestions [13:11] DaemonFC It's just a nightmare to service. [13:11] DaemonFC Then there's nowhere to plug them in at. [13:11] bnchs__ other than windows having a different header name [13:11] immibis bnchs__: in general there is a significant difference between windows and posix. Windows doesn't implement POSIX - just imitates it to reduce friction [13:12] DaemonFC I live in an apartment complex that went up in the 1970s. [13:12] activelow bnchs__: i cannot confirm there was any bias introduced by DDG; since ms and IBM/RedHat are major vendors, and neutral linux results are highly ranked [13:12] DaemonFC So not only can I not plug the car in anywhere here, there's no supercharging stations for 50 miles in any direction. [13:12] immibis did you know that before electric cars were mainstream, enthusiasts were doing their own electric conversions with lead-acid? [13:12] activelow btw. techrights itself was higher ranked with DDG than with google, last time i checked [13:12] immibis fun fact. [13:12] bnchs__ i search alot of function names for documentation [13:12] DaemonFC It would be impossible to charge the car even if I could afford one. [13:12] bnchs__ it always ranks up microsoft [13:13] DaemonFC And their range gets cut in half by cold weather. [13:13] bnchs__ "windows IS the largest used desktop operating system" means that DDG has biased the results towards microsoft [13:13] DaemonFC Which is half the year here. They DO NOT RESPOND WELL to cold weather. [13:13] immibis DaemonFC: I gave you three other suggestions, and that's just on an individual level. The fact is that eliminating oil dependency is going to be painful one way or another. You get to choose your pain, but no pain is not an option. [13:13] DaemonFC And winter-type weather goes on from November to April. [13:14] DaemonFC So even if I could afford an EV, and had somewhere to charge it, it would waste half its energy for 6 months and there'd just be no range. [13:14] DaemonFC That 300-400 miles Elon Musk talks about is really 150-200 miles in Chicago half the year. [13:14] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [13:14] DaemonFC I could get that far in an Impala on half a tank of gas. [13:15] immibis How is your apartment building managed? Can you bring up a resolution to install a charger? Or do you live under one of those freeloading property investment oligarchs? [13:15] DaemonFC Why would I install a charger somewhere where I'll probably live for a few years, at most? [13:15] immibis Are you ever going to address the three other options? [13:15] DaemonFC People move every 2-3 years on average. [13:16] immibis Well, because it would be useful for you, and is not terribly expensive. You might not be aware that your average non-super charger is just a fancy wall outlet with a chip that tells the car how much power is available. [13:16] DaemonFC One reason why few bother with buying a house on contract from a bank is that the average American needs to move 10 times before one mortgage would be paid off. [13:16] DaemonFC So it makes no sense. [13:16] DaemonFC You have no equity at all for about 5-6 years. It's just interest payments. [13:16] immibis If you live in an apartment you probably live in a denser area where public transport or biking are viable. Why do you completely ignore those things even though I already mentioned them several times? [13:17] DaemonFC Because the bus doesn't run until 4 hours after my spouse needs to be at work. [13:17] immibis I heard Chicago. That's apparently one of America's more no-car-friendly cities. [13:17] DaemonFC And it takes 2 hours to get where I could go in 10 minutes in the car. [13:17] DaemonFC I'ts 47 stops from here to Walmart and most of that is turning around and going in the wrong direction. [13:18] DaemonFC And to get on that bus, you also need to walk 20 minutes on top of that. [13:18] immibis How far is Walmart? 10 minutes by car, including 2 minutes parking? [13:18] DaemonFC Plus, it's not running at 4 AM. [13:18] DaemonFC Then you get everything from public masturbators to muggers on the bus. [13:19] DaemonFC Plus, they're a petri dish. Want to get COVID? Cram in there! [13:19] immibis your country is stuck in this metastable failure state where the bus is something low-class criminals use. Where I've lived, it's a thing that's available for everyone. [13:19] immibis The same forces that make COVID so popular are also the forces that make your city's bus system crappy and unpopular [13:19] DaemonFC In the city of Chicago it's not just low class criminals, although they like public transit. [13:20] DaemonFC They can get on it and rob everyone in a train car before the next stop. [13:20] DaemonFC Then get back off and the cops never solve it. [13:20] DaemonFC But in the suburbs, we have Pace, which is even more ghetto than the CTA somehow. [13:20] DaemonFC And it's more like "the bus" in Indianapolis. [13:21] DaemonFC You know. Comes by every hour or two, picks up the bums. [13:21] DaemonFC It's so unworkable that it's basically a government jobs program that pollutes more than the bus is worth. [13:21] immibis Maybe neoliberal capitalism is telling you to start some kind of collective riding arrangement yourself (like a bus) [13:21] DaemonFC I hardly ever see any Pace buses with more than maybe 4-5 people on them. [13:21] immibis in Berlin, Germany the buses and trains run every 5 minutes, 10 on the outskirts. [13:22] DaemonFC In a bus that has dozens of seats. [13:22] immibis and they are full of just about everyone [13:22] DaemonFC YOu can't have anything nice here. [13:22] immibis in some places in the world it's every 2 minutes [13:22] DaemonFC And Roy would tell me to stifle myself if I said why. [13:22] immibis would the reason be a deranged rant about the left? non-binary fuss about woke skies? [13:22] DaemonFC Follow WGN Chicago and read all the crime stories. ABC 7 too. [13:23] DaemonFC You'll start to get the picture. [13:23] DaemonFC Now magnify that by about 1,000 times to get all the stuff they don't run. [13:23] immibis oh so I guess your reason would be black people. What is it with you and black people? Despite holding a left position on almost every other topic? [13:23] DaemonFC I'll go dig up some samples. [13:23] immibis The causes of crime are not as simple as "black people" any more than the Ukraine massacre is "Russian people" [13:24] immibis the causes of the Ukraine massacre are not even "Vladimir Putin" (though he is a lynchpin) [13:24] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:24] immibis it's never as simple as it seems. it's always complex and intertwined. [13:24] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/11/more-than-6-years-in-prison-for-man-convicted-in-botched-robbery-in-lindenhurst-that-left-accomplice-dead/ https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/10/man-on-parole-arrested-after-undercover-officers-spot-him-conducting-drug-deal-in-mchenry-county/ https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/09/man-charged-with-first-degree-murder-in-fatal-beating-of-girlfriends-6-year-old-child-in-round-lake-beach/ [13:24] Alternative link Cloudflare: lakemchenryscanner.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/11/more-than-6-years-in-prison-for-man-convicted-in-botched-robbery-in-lindenhurst-that-left-accomplice-dead/ [13:24] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/08/chicago-man-charged-with-stealing-nearly-900000-worth-of-vehicles-at-crystal-lake-car-dealership/ https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/02/8-years-in-prison-for-woodstock-man-found-with-drugs-gun-during-undercover-sting/ [13:24] Alternative link Cloudflare: lakemchenryscanner.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/08/chicago-man-charged-with-stealing-nearly-900000-worth-of-vehicles-at-crystal-lake-car-dealership/ [13:25] immibis the reason why americans can't have nice things is that someone stole cars? [13:25] DaemonFC Drugs, beating kids to death, attacking Child Protective Service workers, toting machine guns around.... [13:26] immibis and why do people do those things? [13:26] DaemonFC Muggings, lootings, entire city on fire. [13:26] immibis is it because they are genetically inferior, or is it something to do with American culture? [13:26] DaemonFC Because they're degenerates and losers who don't want to get a job. [13:27] immibis why are they degenerates and losers who don't want to get a job? [13:27] DaemonFC But at least the white degenerates and losers who don't want to get a job mind their own business, even when they're in a criminal enterprise. [13:27] DaemonFC Like, white drug dealers quietly deal drugs. [13:27] DaemonFC They don't go spraying down the neighborhood with bullets on their way to molest a kid. [13:27] DaemonFC Usually. [13:27] DaemonFC I mean, they're polite criminals. [13:28] DaemonFC You don't mess with them, they don't mess with you. [13:28] DaemonFC The town I lived in in Indiana, we had white drug dealers. I walked around at 2-3 AM with $2,000 in my pocket, nothing happened. [13:28] immibis pretty fair. Drugs should be legal anyway. [13:28] DaemonFC Nothing ever happens, because they just deal drugs. They don't want to hurt you. [13:28] immibis What is the underlying reason that white criminals are different from non-white criminals? [13:29] DaemonFC Because white criminals are more likely to be smart enough to realize that when you're committing felonies you don't want to get pinched for something stupid and then get rumbled on your main enterprise too. [13:30] DaemonFC Like, when you're dealing a bunch of drugs, don't rob some guy with a handgun for $100 and a used Android phone. [13:30] immibis DaemonFC: You're just writing off any possible reason as them being stupid. You don't even care to think about what the actual reasons could be. [13:30] immibis Stupid people don't commit murder. They sit around with their mouth open and drool spilling out. [13:30] DaemonFC Stupid people commit murder all the time. [13:30] DaemonFC :) [13:30] immibis Only if you redefine stupid [13:31] DaemonFC Smarter people figure out ways to avoid committing murder or how to do it only when necessary and hide it so it's unlikely to be solved. [13:31] immibis DaemonFC: People don't commit murder for no reason, either. [13:32] DaemonFC Every black murderer I've seen on the local news has been a story like "Black guy dumps pregnant girlfriend into lake. Girlfriend floats across lake and washes up in Waukegan.". [13:32] immibis "Smarter people" have reasons why they shouldn't, which outweigh any reasons why they should. Why are those former reasons missing in the case of the "stupid people" who do commit murder? [13:32] DaemonFC Or "Black mother kills son then panics, burns the body, and dumps it in Gary, Indiana.". [13:33] DaemonFC I mean, this is just in the last couple months. [13:33] immibis Could it possibly be because the law inevitably fucks over black people anyway? So they don't have an alternative way to resolve disputes AND if they're going to jail it might as well be for a good reason? [13:33] immibis Like the Ukrainian citizens (prior to the war) who went diving inside Chernobyl using an upside-down aquarium and a bike pump. [13:33] DaemonFC What kind of a sick monster do you have to be to abuse your child to death then burn the body, strip it naked, and dump it in another state? [13:34] DaemonFC Then go to the police and say he's missing and you don't know what happened.... [13:34] immibis I figure their country probably hasn't yet developed to the point where human life is stable, so if they may die at any moment anyway, they may as well die trying to get youtube views. [13:34] DaemonFC Disregard the stupid for a minute, and focus on how much of a sick asshole this woman must be. [13:35] immibis DaemonFC: Why did she kill her son? [13:35] DaemonFC And then you have the libtards going "It's because she was marginalized something something air pollution.". [13:35] immibis You have the conservatards going "it's because black people are genetically inferior" [13:35] DaemonFC They should bring back the electric chair. [13:35] DaemonFC Put her in the front of the line. [13:35] immibis DaemonFC: Why did she kill her son? [13:35] DaemonFC There's a bill in the legislature to bring back death by electrocution. [13:36] DaemonFC I filed a witness slip supporting it. [13:36] immibis DaemonFC: Why did she kill her son? [13:36] DaemonFC Who cares? Fry her as a warning to others. [13:36] DaemonFC Quit trying to find an excuse for her. There isn't one. [13:36] immibis You cannot fix problems by punishing people. If we know why she killed her son, we can prevent other people from experiencing that same reason. [13:36] immibis You cannot fix society by sticking people between rocks and hard places. [13:37] DaemonFC John Wayne Gacy got solved permanently. [13:37] DaemonFC In Illinois, with the electric chair. [13:37] DaemonFC It'll solve this woman too if they bring it back. [13:37] immibis If there is some invisible (to you) force causing her to have to sacrifice her son, and you propose to upgrade it so they both die, THAT IS NOT AN IMPROVEMENT. [13:38] DaemonFC There's a lot of people floating around that have no right to live because they gave it up. [13:38] DaemonFC Life isn't just a right, it's a responsibility. [13:38] DaemonFC And not everyone deserves the right to go on living if they behave in a certain manner. [13:38] immibis DaemonFC: Did she have access to abortion in case she was not ready to accept the responsibility? [13:38] DaemonFC Illinois is the most liberal state this side of the country. [13:38] DaemonFC The only way you'd get more access to abortion is if Pritzker paid you to have one. [13:39] DaemonFC So don't even go there. [13:39] DaemonFC These people are STUPID with a capital STUPID. [13:39] immibis Do you agree that if there's some situation where Alice has to choose between killing both Alice and Bob, or just Bob, then if you also execute Alice, it solves absolutely nothing and makes the world worse? [13:39] DaemonFC They aren't thinking, so they get pregnant. They don't bother getting an abortion, so they have kids. [13:39] DaemonFC Then they don't plan to work and feed their kids, so they go on welfare. [13:40] DaemonFC Then they still aren't fit and the state fails to take the kids away, and the kid ends up dead from abuse. [13:40] DaemonFC Do you agree that if there's some situation where Alice has to choose between killing both Alice and Bob, or just Bob, then if you also execute Alice, it solves absolutely nothing and makes the world worse? [13:40] DaemonFC If you kill the murderer, they don't get out and kill again. [13:41] DaemonFC They also don't get to live indefinitely in prison costing taxpayers $90,000 a year every year they're there. [13:41] DaemonFC Most of these people go in, and they're not healthy people. [13:41] DaemonFC They have diabetes, AIDS, Syphilis, Hepatitis C. [13:42] DaemonFC The state has to pay to treat all of their diseases, along with feeding, clothing, and housing them. [13:42] DaemonFC And she's in there for murdering her 6 year old, setting him on fire, stripping him, and dumping him in Indiana. [13:42] DaemonFC And she could live for 50 years in prison costing us $6-7 million total. [13:43] DaemonFC Or we could just execute her. ComEd charges 12 cents per kilowatt hour. [13:43] DaemonFC Whatever that comes out to. [13:43] DaemonFC Not to mention the liberal parole board that could let her out, declare her cured, and then she absconds and kills again. [13:44] DaemonFC It wouldn't be the first time. [13:44] immibis DaemonFC: It was a yes or no question. [13:44] DaemonFC This isn't about revenge. [13:44] DaemonFC This is abour ridding society of someone who has forfeited their rights to ever live at the sufferance of civilized people again. [13:45] immibis TIL that choosing the least bad option means you forfeit your right to live. DO YOU HEAR YOURSELF RIGHT NOW??? (assuming you're still talking about Alice and Bob) [13:45] DaemonFC Uncivilized societies that want to be bogged down with more crime than they have now get rid of the death sentence and then parole people like her. [13:46] DaemonFC Since Illinois repealed the death sentence, violent crime went up by 300% statewide, mostly centered on Chicago. [13:46] DaemonFC We didn't repeal it and magically turn into Canada. [13:47] immibis DaemonFC: Was the answer to the Alice and Bob question "yes" or "no"? [13:47] DaemonFC Not all homicide is murder. [13:47] DaemonFC There's a legal definition of murder. [13:48] DaemonFC Extenuating circumstances are accounted for by law. [13:48] immibis No, they aren't. Especially if the defendant is black. [13:48] immibis Double especially if the circumstance is systemic. [13:48] DaemonFC For example, if it was an accident, or you did it without planning to, you'll be shown lenience. [13:48] DaemonFC Most people who commit first degree murder aren't even sentenced for it. [13:48] DaemonFC They take a plea deal to manslaughter. [13:48] immibis I'm talking about a situation where Alice makes a cool-headed, calculating decision to stab Bob through the heart with a rusty knife. [13:49] DaemonFC And killing someone in self-defense isn't a crime. [13:49] immibis Alice doesn't kill Bob by accident [13:50] DaemonFC Well, then it's either first or second degree murder. [13:50] DaemonFC It depends on how much planning there was. [13:50] DaemonFC Like, if you walk in and your wife is fucking some other guy and you get pissed and shoot them both, that's second degree murder. [13:50] DaemonFC You didn't plan it for weeks. There was no conspiracy. [13:51] immibis Let's say she sat down with a stack of grid paper for a week and the calculations say if she doesn't kill Bob by tomorrow, they'll both die. For some reason. Magic, idk. [13:51] immibis And that calculation is completely accurate. [13:51] immibis The question was: Do you agree that if there's some situation where Alice has to choose between killing both Alice and Bob, or just Bob, then if you also execute Alice, it solves absolutely nothing and makes the world worse? [13:52] DaemonFC Murder is a crime against the state, so technically you could be charged for it if the other person wasn't threatening you with death or great bodily harm. [13:52] immibis Is your entire conception of morality based on what the law says? [13:53] immibis I didn't ask whether Alice COULD be charged for murder. [13:53] DaemonFC I comply with the law. [13:53] immibis I didn't ask whether Alice COULD be executed. [13:53] DaemonFC Minimally sometimes, but comply, yeah. [13:53] DaemonFC Because I know what happens to people who don't. [13:54] DaemonFC If I can figure out a way to use a law in a way it wasn't intended in order to further my gains, and have broken no law in the process, I'll do that. [13:54] immibis This attitude leads directly to victim-blaming. You may as well say that anyone who got gassed in Nazi Germany deserved it because they didn't flee when they could when the Nazis took power. Because they were breaking the law by existing. [13:54] immibis And the law at the time said they could be gassed as punishment for existing. [13:54] immibis Do you believe that Jews who saw it was illegal to be Jewish, and did not flee immediately, deserved to die? [13:54] DaemonFC If I had to break the law, absolutely had to, and I'm speaking hypothetically here..... [13:55] DaemonFC I'd be smart enough to cover it up and never talk about it again and destroy the evidence. [13:55] DaemonFC These people are sloppy. [13:55] DaemonFC I don't respect that. [13:56] DaemonFC My step-sister (from mom's second husband) got pulled over for a seat belt violation. [13:56] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@xg2evud9qdris.irc) has joined #techrights [13:56] DaemonFC While the cop had her pulled over, he saw a joint and a bottle of piss she took from her daughter to go pass an employment drug test with, laying in plain sight on the passenger seat. [13:56] DaemonFC So she ended up in jail for a year. [13:56] immibis DaemonFC: Do you believe that Jews who remained in Germany after it was illegal to be Jewish deserved to die? [13:56] DaemonFC If she had put it under the seat, she would have gotten a $25 fine for the seatbelt. [13:57] DaemonFC If she had been wearing the seatbelt, there'd have been no traffic stop. [13:57] DaemonFC I don't respect sloppy criminals. [13:57] kingoffrance what does "be jewish" mean? there's egyptian astrology, that's it. moses == shu, he holds up the sun each morning and evaporates. this is not anti-jew, but rather, why there will never be any law [13:57] kingoffrance egypt collapsed, world still deals with it centuries later [13:58] DaemonFC Well, fortunately, the United States isn't undergoing a holocaust. [13:58] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.31 k/sec., IPFS upstream 65.65 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.36 [13:58] immibis kingoffrance: whatever hitler meant by it [13:58] immibis DaemonFC: you're avoiding the question. [13:58] DaemonFC It lets inferior people breed uncontrollably and pays them to do it. [13:58] DaemonFC Then we have crime and general dumbassery going on all over the place. [13:58] immibis DaemonFC: Do you believe that Jews who remained in Germany after it was illegal to be Jewish deserved to die? [13:58] TR News "First, lets look at gemserv. My computer was already tarnished with rust when I accidentally installed it as a dependency, so I decided to poke around in the package since cargo was already polluting my hard disk anyways. I decided to run a simple `cargo tree`, and oh my, what a mistake that was." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-04-13.gmi [13:59] TR News Rust sucks: "Why should something as simple as Gemini need over 100 dependencies? For reference, Molly Brown uses one (1) dependency, and it doesn't even have anything to do with the server itself, all it pulls in is a TOML parser for configuration!" gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-04-13.gmi [13:59] TR News "I've complained before about Go making massive fucking binaries. Even if you count in the runtime which adds some heft, the compiler just doesn't seem to be that efficient at stripping away unneeded stuff. The molly-brown binary is 5.8MB despite it being pretty simple code. However, the compiled gemserv binary is /36 fucking megabytes/!" gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-04-13.gmi [13:59] DaemonFC No. But the Nazis weren't exactly democratically elected. ● Mar 12 [14:00] DaemonFC They forced their way into the government and then started ignoring the actual constitution and laws. [14:00] TR News "For a """""systems programming language""""" rust certainly doesn't seem to have any of the qualities of one. No real architecture support beyond the most common desktop arches, massive binaries that would barely fit on anything with even moderately constrained sources." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-04-13.gmi [14:01] DaemonFC In the entire history of the world, in democracy, nothing like the Nazis in Germany has happened anywhere else. Not even the Chinese are this bad and they're not a democratic country. [14:01] immibis DaemonFC: So you agree sometimes a person who breaks the law doesn't deserve the corresponding punishment defined in the law. [14:01] DaemonFC Not even Putin is that bad. [14:01] DaemonFC There was no law in Nazi Germany. [14:01] immibis You agree that sometimes, when a person breaks the law, it is the law that is wrong, not the person. [14:02] DaemonFC When they couldn't get the courts to go along with their decrees, they made courts outside the law, called the People's Courts. [14:02] DaemonFC And they sentenced people to mass execution without charging them with an offense defined by the law. [14:02] immibis Why wasn't there? What does that mean? You be Jewish, you get gassed - that's a law. It might not have followed whatever processes were defined in the Weimar Republic, but that doesn't make it not a law. [14:03] DaemonFC Hitler's decrees and emergency powers were not within the system of constitutional law. [14:03] DaemonFC They didn't change the laws, they ignored them. [14:03] DaemonFC Like JB Pritzker in Illinois. [14:03] immibis So your system of law is founded upon constitutions, and the laws they specify, rather than all laws in general. [14:03] DaemonFC Governing by "decree and mandate" and "waiving" laws. [14:03] immibis (including the specification of a system for changing laws) [14:03] immibis In places where there is no constitution, is there no law? [14:03] DaemonFC By the time anyone took him to court it all went away you know? [14:04] DaemonFC It took almost two years to get this into court because courts move slowly. [14:04] DaemonFC And he ruled outside of the law for two years. [14:04] immibis New Zealand doesn't have a constitution. Are consequences for breaking New Zealand's laws undeserved? [14:04] MinceR it's possible to write immoral things into the constitution, or whatever is used in place of a constitution [14:04] MinceR in 2010, the national communists wrote a new "basic law" for hungary, chock full of christian fundamentalist bullshit [14:05] DaemonFC Countries without a constitution that binds the government somehow with a bill of rights do not have a legitimate government. [14:05] DaemonFC They have pirates running the state. [14:05] MinceR (and then they violated their own "basic law" anyway) [14:06] immibis Okay, so New Zealand does not have a legitimate government. [14:06] DaemonFC No, and they are human rights violators. [14:06] DaemonFC So is Australia. [14:06] immibis So people who steal TVs from TV stores in New Zealand do NOT deserve to go to jail? [14:06] DaemonFC So are most governments, honestly. [14:06] immibis In your opinion? [14:06] DaemonFC Maybe all of them. [14:06] kingoffrance im thinking its best to just say "egyptian-astrology based religions" and not humor any imaginary origins [14:07] DaemonFC When your country is running COVID concentration camps, like Australia does. [14:07] immibis DaemonFC: So people who steal TVs from TV stores in New Zealand do NOT deserve to go to jail, because the law saying they should go to jail is illegitimate, just like the law in Nazi Germany that said Jews should get gassed was illegitimate? [14:07] DaemonFC And you force people there who don't even have COVID.... [14:07] DaemonFC Well, people living there lack basic rights. Like, the government can order them to stay in their house. [14:08] DaemonFC How is that different from a communist country? [14:08] immibis What is a constitution, anyway? If Hitler wrote a document saying: "This is the new constitution of Germany. ARTICLE 1: Jews should get gassed. ARTICLE 2: Aryans are the superior race." - then in your opinion, would the "Jews should get gassed" law be legitimate because it would be constitutional? [14:08] immibis Or is there more to the legitimacy of a law than whether or not it follows a constitution? [14:08] DaemonFC Well, Biden can't just set aside the United State Constitution. [14:08] DaemonFC THere's a process for this. [14:08] immibis DaemonFC: people in America lack basic rights. Like, the government can lock them up in concrete rooms. [14:08] DaemonFC *States [14:09] DaemonFC There's a process for amending or replacing it, and it doesn't involve the President at all. [14:09] DaemonFC Either way it's the states, or Congress and the states. [14:09] *mimorek has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:09] immibis If the Weimar Republic had no constitution, and Hitler had written a constitution saying "Jews should be gassed. This constitution cannot be amended." would you still think that was the legitimate constitution of Germany today? I would hope you would not! [14:10] DaemonFC If Biden came out and tried to declare some "replacement Constitution" nobody would go along with it. [14:10] DaemonFC They play games. [14:10] DaemonFC They pass laws and wait to get sued over them to let courts decide how far they can go. [14:10] *mimorek (~mimorek@trhncgdin767n.irc) has joined #techrights [14:11] DaemonFC Which is why it's best to pass a law that limits the government severely. [14:11] DaemonFC Constitutional law, rather. [14:11] immibis You have not explained what you think makes a constitution legitimate or not. [14:12] DaemonFC Well, the Constitution of the United States or of Illinois has always been amended the way it says it has to be. [14:12] immibis You HAVE explained that you are basically a constitutional absolutist, and that you believe any punishment prescribed by a process which follows a constitution is something the victim deserved. Just to reiterate where we are at. [14:13] DaemonFC Well, the UK is proving that they were full of shit. [14:13] DaemonFC When they said they were such an old and stable and proven democracy that they didn't need a written constitution. [14:13] DaemonFC Now Borid is having fun with that. The "policing bill". [14:13] immibis We all know the US constitution blocked the PATRIOT Act [14:14] DaemonFC Parts of it were struck down. [14:14] MinceR (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/1uaNW1r.mp4 [14:14] Alternative link Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/1uaNW1r.mp4 [14:14] immibis We all know the NSA never does anything that a court disapproves of. [14:14] DaemonFC Anyway, the US legal system is far more robust than the one Boris Johnson is about to pass for the UK. [14:14] DaemonFC They won't even have an independent judiciary anymore. [14:15] DaemonFC The UK has done so much internal harm to itself that it's ceasing to function as a democracy and as a first world country. [14:15] immibis DaemonFC: Can Boris Johnson write a constitution saying "Boris Johnson is the supreme leader for life"? [14:15] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:16] *inky_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:16] DaemonFC Well, Parliament can do pretty much anything it wants to. [14:16] DaemonFC So if his party decided that, sure. [14:16] immibis I can do anything I want to. I can write a constitution saying "immibis is the supreme leader for life", right? [14:16] MinceR would this make dictatorship legitimate? [14:16] DaemonFC The Queen technically has to give royal assent. [14:17] immibis As a citizen of New Zealand, nobody can really challenge me on that [14:17] DaemonFC But she's never refused anything, afaik. [14:17] immibis It's not like I didn't follow all relevant constitutional amendment processes. [14:17] DaemonFC The monarchy asserting itself to save democracy would be the ultimate irony, wouldn't it? [14:18] immibis How do you know she's the monarch? Does it say so in the constitution? [14:18] DaemonFC The final step in a bill becoming a law there is royal assent. [14:18] DaemonFC To me that kind of suggests she could refuse to act on it and it would die. [14:18] immibis Why? Does it say so in the constitution? Or is it merely common practice? [14:19] perfector its a cultural thing [14:19] DaemonFC You mean, would they overthrow the Queen finally if that happened? [14:19] DaemonFC I mean, it's possible. [14:19] immibis perfector: Only constitutions are legitimate sources of power according to DaemonFC [14:20] DaemonFC Without them, the limits of government power are undefined. [14:20] perfector guns are also legitimate sources of power according to DaemonFC [14:20] DaemonFC Which is dangerous and seriously damages the credibility of anything the government does. [14:20] immibis I am the queen of the UK, because there is no constitution saying I am not. [14:20] DaemonFC guns are also legitimate sources of power according to DaemonFC [14:20] DaemonFC It's perfectly legitimate to overpower an attacker using your gun. [14:20] immibis I have exactly as much power as Boris Johnson. [14:21] immibis There is no constitution saying the party in power is the one who gets the most votes. [14:21] immibis But I wrote one! It says the party in power is the one the person who wrote this constitution belongs to. [14:22] perfector to teally overpower an attacker you would be using is gun [14:24] immibis DaemonFC: Am I, or am I not currently the Prime Minister and the Queen? [14:25] bnchs__ so duckduckgo is gonna censor russians now [14:25] immibis bnchs__: duckduckgo is going to provide more accurate search results [14:25] bnchs__ and most people are appluading them for it [14:25] bnchs__ immibis, "more accurate" to their point of view [14:25] immibis bnchs__: just more accurate, period. [14:26] immibis I assume if you search for 'russia rt' they still give you results for rt [14:26] bnchs__ maybe just add an icon [14:26] immibis apart from that, RT should be given the same precedence as The Onion [14:26] perfector duckduckgo is that a google wraper? [14:26] bnchs__ not down-rank the shit out of them [14:26] bnchs__ don't care if it's "accurate", need uncensored results [14:26] immibis why? [14:26] MinceR i think it should be given less precedence [14:26] immibis if I spam the internet with flat-earth pages, when you search for the shape of the earth, should you find my pages? [14:26] MinceR at least The Onion is funny [14:27] DaemonFC I used to be interested in DuckDuckGo. As they went on, they got MORE dependent on Bing to the point that results are verbatim for the most part. [14:27] bnchs__ immibis, i think they put a wikipedia page summary on the side [14:27] bnchs__ but anyway, i don't like duckduckgo playing hall moniter with search results [14:27] DaemonFC They claim that there is a DuckDuckBot, but I don't think it actually exists. [14:28] immibis bnchs__: what is "uncensored", anyway? Demanding no manual intervention in the result list seems like a crazy demand. Because that also means no manual intervention against link farms for example - which will certainly adapt to whatever automatic filters you put in place. [14:28] MinceR well, i've seen ddg provide better results than bng in the same searx result list [14:28] MinceR so they're doing _something_ [14:28] bnchs__ immibis add a flag for no manual intervention [14:28] immibis bnchs__: why is it okay to censor those sites that just copy-paste other sites and add links to gucci handbags? [14:29] bnchs__ like "nointervention:true" [14:29] schestowitz-TR2 flat earth theory pages would not get many links [14:29] bnchs__ instead of choosing what's best for the users [14:29] schestowitz-TR2 and so based on their lack of merit a good search algorithm would not index them too positivekly [14:30] DaemonFC Running a search engine is tricky. [14:30] DaemonFC The web is big, and most of it is low quality spam. [14:31] schestowitz-TR2 a growing proportion of it [14:31] immibis schestowitz-TR2: well that's just automatic censorship [14:31] schestowitz-TR2 pagerank [14:31] schestowitz-TR2 that was the original sofwtare patents for gulag/sttandford [14:31] schestowitz-TR2 basically counting backlinks [14:31] schestowitz-TR2 nothing witty about it [14:31] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaA8uPfUFT4 [14:31] schestowitz-TR2 scholarly publication had already done the same [14:31] bnchs__ first of all, what if i wanna look for the low quality spam [14:31] immibis pagerank is also censorship [14:32] schestowitz-TR2 then they just needed brute force, and for that they had money [14:32] immibis it censors pages that nobody links to [14:32] schestowitz-TR2 it's a circular issue [14:32] schestowitz-TR2 pages that do not even get noticed cannot be ranked well [14:32] schestowitz-TR2 it's a known issue [14:32] schestowitz-TR2 chicken-and-egg [14:32] schestowitz-TR2 PageRank is also easy to game [14:33] bnchs__ what if you wanna look at russian state media [14:33] bnchs__ to see their opinion and perspective [14:33] bnchs__ instead of censoring or down ranking them for the same bland opinion [14:33] schestowitz-TR2 not allowed [14:33] MinceR why not use their domain names then [14:33] schestowitz-TR2 historians have struggled with this [14:33] schestowitz-TR2 when "web" companies likke gulag censored a lot of things [14:33] schestowitz-TR2 in the name of "protecting" people [14:34] schestowitz-TR2 so then even ust studying history became hard [14:34] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [14:34] *kingoffrance you cant handle the pravda! [14:34] bnchs__ history is sometimes about seeing the perspective of people [14:34] bnchs__ and censoring info ruins that [14:35] XRevan86 Of people or of the regime? [14:35] XRevan86 Come on, people, chant with me: Regime Opinions Matter [14:39] MinceR :> [14:39] immibis bnchs__: then you search for russian state media and get results from russian state media. The only issue is if you DON'T search for that [14:39] MinceR Dictator Lives Matter [14:39] immibis Like, if I search for "flat earth" I should get flat earth info, no doubt. If I search for "earth shape" should I get flat earth info? [14:39] immibis DaemonFC never answered why my constitution wasn't legitimate. [14:41] kingoffrance i dont know, what's your seal? http://dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=devil&Query=seal [14:42] kingoffrance "ive them a magical efficacy " you need that part [14:42] kingoffrance *give [14:42] XRevan86 No takers, eh? How about: Corrupt Officials Are Human, Too! [14:42] bnchs__ XRevan86, uhhh [14:42] bnchs__ of the news there? [14:42] kingoffrance also, heralds dont pun because they cant [14:43] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/814453.jpg [14:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/814453.jpg [14:43] bnchs__ immibis, the problem is that many people have different beliefs about the earth shape [14:44] immibis bnchs__: The problem with what? [14:44] XRevan86 Strangely enough, the shape of the Earth doesn't change because of that. [14:44] bnchs__ the search engine [14:44] bnchs__ can't decide what is truthful and what is not [14:45] XRevan86 bnchs__: Hm? [14:45] bnchs__ ok maybe [14:45] bnchs__ maybe i'm wrong [14:46] bnchs__ but how does the search engine decide when you search for earth shape, it gives you sphere earth [14:46] immibis bnchs__: That's an implementation detail [14:46] immibis The discussion is whether it **should** give you sphere earth info [14:46] immibis and not flat earth info [14:47] bnchs__ yes but it can be twisted [14:47] bnchs__ immibis, maybe mix it a bit [14:47] bnchs__ mix flat earth results in the bottom [14:48] bnchs__ and sphere earth in the top [14:48] schestowitz-TR2 human nature: power, I'm right, you are wrong [14:48] immibis bnchs__: I thought downranking was censorship? [14:48] schestowitz-TR2 human-made Web: I remove the "bad" info, I "protect" you from "false" stuff [14:48] bnchs__ ok how about this [14:49] schestowitz-TR2 also human nature: we have capitalkism, sdhareholders decide [14:49] bnchs__ we split the search results in many perspectives [14:49] bnchs__ "sphere earth" "flat earth" [14:49] immibis believing in stupid conspiracy theories is also human nature. The Nazis were human nature - a conspiracy theory that Jews were secretly doing bad stuff [14:49] schestowitz-TR2 so boycotts and shareholders decide for gulag how to rank things [14:49] schestowitz-TR2 by pressuring them to better align with shareholders' worldview [14:49] immibis bnchs__: that doesn't help me determine the shape of the earth, does it? [14:49] bnchs__ immibis, should you let the search engine believe what you should [14:49] bnchs__ you should believe in what you think is logical [14:50] immibis sure, there are some experiments that prove round earth. There are also some convincing experiments that "prove" flat earth unless you have a really good science education to debunk them [14:50] schestowitz-TR2 search engines can be patronising [14:50] immibis I mean, it's plainly obvious that gravity only pulls in one direction, right? :) [14:50] schestowitz-TR2 it takes a lot of moneyt o run a "real" search engine [14:50] schestowitz-TR2 not the meta crap [14:50] immibis bnchs__: flat earth is logical [14:50] XRevan86 How much money does Brave invest into theirs? [14:50] immibis bnchs__: the non-existence quantum physics is logical. Light not being made of particles or waves is logical. [14:51] immibis non-existence of* [14:51] schestowitz-TR2 XRevan86: afaik, they are just a brand [14:51] bnchs__ immibis, then look at the interviews made by sciencists who believe the earth is a sphere [14:51] schestowitz-TR2 taking chromium, throwing cranky crap into it [14:51] schestowitz-TR2 and self-branded meta 'search' [14:51] XRevan86 schestowitz: I mean search.brave.com [14:51] immibis bnchs__: Then look at the interviews made by scientists who believe it's not. [14:51] bnchs__ yes [14:51] immibis bnchs__: Then look at the interviews made by scientists who believe there's a supreme sky human. [14:51] bnchs__ or maybe do it yourself [14:51] bnchs__ shoot yourself to the sky and see it for yourself [14:52] schestowitz-TR2 XRevan86: I will tell you when a Briave Bot shows up in my accesslogs :-) [14:52] immibis Round-earth scientists: "If we do all this complicated stuff we can see some evidence of curvature." Flat-earth scientists: "um just look around you. It's flat." [14:52] XRevan86 schestowitz: heh [14:52] immibis Who do you believe, the one whose evidence is plain eyesight and common sense, or the one whose evidence requires special equipment and weird experiments? [14:52] bnchs__ immibis, form your opinion around what you think you believe [14:52] XRevan86 immibis: "um just look around you. It's flat. Unless ye're a salesperson, then your opinion is invalid" [14:53] immibis bnchs__: So basically, do not seek truth? [14:53] bnchs__ the search engine shouldn't decide the "truth" [14:53] bnchs__ is what i think [14:53] schestowitz-TR2 the web is NOT an encyclopedia [14:53] schestowitz-TR2 it is a frak show [14:53] schestowitz-TR2 *freak [14:53] schestowitz-TR2 and the more people get connected, the worse it will get [14:53] schestowitz-TR2 like granmas uploading nudes [14:54] schestowitz-TR2 just because a nuclear scientist started the web to share his physics papers doesn't mean the www is good [14:54] schestowitz-TR2 it turned into a gulag with facebook [14:54] schestowitz-TR2 and for a lot of the rest spying and advertising [14:55] schestowitz-TR2 using webspam to latch onto "screen time" [14:55] immibis bnchs__: Maybe you think it should reject searches for "earth shape" and only support "round earth" and "flat earth"? [14:55] immibis bnchs__: Do you believe in "teach the controversy" regarding evolution? [14:55] bnchs__ immibis, isn't search engines supposed to be neutral [14:55] immibis bnchs__: neutrality does not exist [14:55] schestowitz-TR2 within the context of algoorithsm it does [14:55] schestowitz-TR2 and you can publish the algo [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 and then negotiate how to changes [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 then let it run unalatered [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 then the lack of neutrality is the decision on changes [14:56] schestowitz-TR2 if elected politicians do that, citizens of Earth indirectly have a say [14:57] bnchs__ immibis, people have different beliefs [14:57] schestowitz-TR2 At the moment we have Pentagon companies writing secret scripts [14:57] immibis There are no neutral algorithms. Remember the whole AI race thing? [14:57] schestowitz-TR2 and we're meant to think that's just "how things are..." [14:57] immibis Even quicksort handles certain lists better than others. [14:57] schestowitz-TR2 so make it free software [14:57] schestowitz-TR2 and negotiable [14:58] bnchs__ the person who is searching for it should form their opinion around what they found [14:58] schestowitz-TR2 it would be a step in a better direction [14:58] bnchs__ rather than the search engine deciding what he should find or not [14:58] immibis bnchs__: so it is acceptable if a search for "earth shape" returns solely flat earth info (as some accident of the search algorithm)? [14:58] schestowitz-TR2 I am uploading a video about this at the moment [14:58] immibis bnchs__: literally the entire point of a search engine is to decide what you should find. [14:58] bnchs__ that's not what i'm saying [14:58] schestowitz-TR2 about how YOUtube is about Gulag telling YOU what to think [14:58] schestowitz-TR2 instead of YOU telling Gulag what you look for [14:59] immibis schestowitz-TR2: did you cover the alt-right pipeline? [14:59] bnchs__ what i'm saying is that the search engine should give you different perspectives into looking at things [14:59] bnchs__ rather than the search engine deciding the sole perspective [14:59] bnchs__ as "truthful" or not [14:59] schestowitz-TR2 immibis: is that like the wormhole of racists? Witrh rense and stuff? [14:59] schestowitz-TR2 or doomscrolling but with another slant? ● Mar 12 [15:00] psydroid8 what about running our own search engines? [15:00] immibis schestowitz-TR2: the wormhole. I don't know what you mean by "rense" [15:01] bnchs__ bnchs__: literally the entire point of a search engine is to decide what you should find. [15:01] immibis People see one slightly racist guy and the algorithm keeps steering them towards more and more racism and each step makes sense at their current level [15:01] immibis so people don't reject it [15:01] bnchs__ but should the search engine put round earth at the top because they say so [15:01] immibis bnchs__: implementation detail [15:01] schestowitz-TR2 immibis: ah, yes, I know about that [15:01] schestowitz-TR2 that even predates the term alt-right [15:01] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@qiahibkh2iwka.irc) has joined #techrights [15:02] schestowitz-TR2 there are some subtle nazi sites on the web [15:02] schestowitz-TR2 like rense [15:02] schestowitz-TR2 but they do not advertise them as such [15:02] activelow algorithms for document-term frequency and stemming have absolutely zero sentiment or bias towards anything [15:02] schestowitz-TR2 so they end up reaching people [15:02] kingoffrance "what about running our own search engines?" is that being done for gemini? [15:02] schestowitz-TR2 psydroid8: it's super-expensive [15:03] schestowitz-TR2 you need to crawl and ton of sites over and over again [15:03] schestowitz-TR2 and then process the data [15:03] schestowitz-TR2 gulag does not even need to do just that anymore [15:03] schestowitz-TR2 using fingerprinting and chrome and other things like JS it tracks people [15:03] immibis psydroid8: have you even tried writing a basic crawler? I have. One thread downloads gigabyte after gigabyte of useless junk. The internet is *huge*. If you want to crawl the web you need massive resources. [15:03] schestowitz-TR2 and then optimises results based on that [15:03] immibis however, search engines aren't inherently based on crawlers. If you wanted something more curated-directory-like it would be doable. [15:04] immibis but then it wouldn't index everything [15:04] immibis if you wanted a curated directory of everything you'd be back to the resources problem [15:04] schestowitz-TR2 remember dmoz? [15:04] schestowitz-TR2 anyone here used dmoz? [15:04] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMOZ [15:05] schestowitz gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/ [15:05] schestowitz we might be forming some stuff around gemini [15:05] schestowitz the pages are small [15:05] schestowitz but the number of capsules with xml/rss/atom is still manageable [15:05] bnchs__ i feel like what i'm saying is absolutely retarded [15:06] schestowitz sorting the new stuff will be the next step [15:06] schestowitz and then categorising it based on more than just new/old/by date [15:06] immibis btw, you can have a hybrid approach, since most individual websites are small enough to crawl, and you just need a curated list of websites, not of pages [15:06] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [15:06] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [15:07] immibis bnchs__: maybe it is [15:07] immibis bnchs__: it seems like a rehash of "teach the controversy" [15:07] schestowitz maybe search engine as a concept is flawed [15:08] schestowitz it's not a directory of info [15:08] schestowitz just a pool of "stuff" that mentions [15:08] schestowitz I usually go to wikipedia first [15:08] schestowitz then I use references at the bottom [15:08] kingoffrance ^ [15:08] immibis the problem with some retarded opinions is enough people are brainwashed into thinking them, that they can't just be discarded as nonsense even if they are [15:08] schestowitz wikipedia has its issues [15:08] immibis schestowitz: Google developers know this, so they up-rank wikipedia [15:08] kingoffrance an archive or "library" maybe is different [15:08] schestowitz but going to gulag.com is not better [15:08] bnchs__ immibis: teach the controversy? [15:09] immibis bnchs__: Yes. The idea that creationism and evolution should be taught equally alongside each other in science classes, and students should be allowed to choose which one they like better. [15:09] bnchs__ dude i'm not saying that [15:09] *psydroid9 (~psydroid@xg2evud9qdris.irc) has joined #techrights [15:09] *psydroid8 has quit (connection closed) [15:09] immibis you're basically saying that but for search engines [15:09] immibis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teach_the_Controversy [15:09] TR Bot Teach the Controversy - Wikipedia [15:09] bnchs__ i'm saying that maybe search engines should have different sections (perspectives) into looking at "earth shape" [15:10] bnchs__ i'm not saying making a result salad of shit [15:10] TR News Best 5 Alternatives to Microsoft Office [Compared] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162470 [15:10] immibis bnchs__: They were saying maybe science classes should have different sections (perspectives) into looking at "origin of life" [15:11] TR Bot Best 5 Alternatives to Microsoft Office [Compared] | Tux Machines [15:11] bnchs__ the perspective that's the most peer-reviewed? [15:11] immibis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District - it was actually taught in some schools [15:11] TR Bot Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District - Wikipedia [15:12] bnchs__ so you're saying search results should be one-sided [15:12] immibis bnchs__: why does that apply to "origin of life", but not to "earth shape"? [15:12] bnchs__ immibis: maybe because i'm not saying "origin of life" [15:12] immibis bnchs__: unless you specifically search for non-factual information, you shouldn't receive it. The default is to assume that you want to know what shape the earth is in real life - not in science fiction. [15:12] immibis you want that, search for "alternative earth shape" [15:13] bnchs__ "you want to know whats 1+1" "its 3" [15:13] immibis You're saying that if someone searches for "1+1" the search engine should not discriminate between results that say "2" and results that say "3" [15:13] bnchs__ who decides that in the search engine [15:13] immibis implementation detail [15:14] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWLbS6fqgw4 [15:14] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=RWLbS6fqgw4 [15:14] TR Bot yewtu.be | The Universe Is Going to End. This Is How We Can Survive. - Invidious [15:14] bnchs__ immibis, you go with the one thats more logical [15:14] immibis If you view a search engine as "a program that finds pages matching keywords" then yes, it shouldn't discriminate. But that's not what a search engine is in reality. [15:14] bnchs__ and more peer-reviewed [15:14] MinceR i wish there was a search engine that does that [15:14] MinceR it would make my life a lot easier [15:14] immibis bnchs__: 1+1=L seems pretty logical, actually. Two straight lines make two straight lines [15:15] immibis and the word "Logical" even starts with "L". [15:15] MinceR 1+1=11 [15:15] immibis how much more logical can you... oh MinceR has it [15:15] immibis although. even better. 1+1=1+1 [15:15] MinceR (in base 1) [15:16] immibis 1+1=| [15:16] bnchs__ my opinion was about the russian and ukraine war [15:16] bnchs__ i guess it got twisted to science now [15:16] MinceR 1+1=|-o-| [15:16] immibis bnchs__: it was about search engines in general. If you had reasoning that was specifically about the Russian massacre in Ukraine, you should have used that reasoning, not reasoning that applies to all searches [15:17] bnchs__ yes i know [15:17] immibis bnchs__: anyway DDG did not say they'd downrank misinformation about the Russian massacre in Ukraine. They said they'd downrank Russian state media, or something like that. [15:17] bnchs__ i didn't say misinformation [15:18] immibis which is a known unreliable source, anyway. I certainly expect Wikipedia to be ranked above 4chan when I search for things! [15:18] MinceR if you expect anything other than disinformation from russian state media, you're a fool :> [15:18] bnchs__ immibis, everyone knows 4chan is a cesspool [15:18] immibis bnchs__: no, not everyone does. [15:19] MinceR it would be hard to index 4chan anyway, as threads tend to be short-lived there, at least on the active boards [15:19] bnchs__ i'm pretty sure they already banned 4chan from indexes, because of the CP [15:19] immibis MinceR: let's pretend it was forever archived [15:19] immibis it should still be ranked below wikipedia [15:20] bnchs__ i wouldn't search for science stuff on search engines anyway [15:20] bnchs__ maybe on wikipedia [15:20] immibis why not? [15:21] bnchs__ because wikipedia is netural? [15:21] bnchs__ and i can see the references? [15:21] MinceR wikipedia is only neutral until someone with sufficient resources decides to game it [15:21] *psydroid9 has quit (connection closed) [15:21] immibis bnchs__: you can also see the references on search engines. in fact they are ONLY references [15:21] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@xg2evud9qdris.irc) has joined #techrights [15:21] immibis nothing BUT references [15:21] bnchs__ immibis there are random blogs with no references [15:22] immibis wikipedia references can also be places without references [15:22] bnchs__ yes [15:22] bnchs__ but do you really trust some random website made by a nobody [15:23] immibis would you trust it more if google said it? [15:23] immibis i mean if google said the website as a reference [15:23] SomeH4x0r MinceR: I think certain stuff, like COVID-19 one, might be rejected as "misinformation" regardless of sources [15:24] bnchs__ i wouldn't trust anything regardless if the search engine says it [15:24] immibis bnchs__: so it should make no difference whether you see it on Wikipedia or Google [15:25] bnchs__ if the guy who made the website actually publishes it under a name [15:27] bnchs__ immibis: maybe say why my opinion is bad? [15:28] immibis bnchs__: well you're saying you'd rather get your links on wikipedia than on google, because they're more trustworthy when they're on wikipedia? but you wouldn't trust them anyway? so how does it matter how trustworthy they are? [15:29] bnchs__ when i can see who made the claim [15:29] bnchs__ and if he can prove it [15:30] immibis so why are wikipedia links better than google links? [15:30] bnchs__ because google links are now just spam blogs [15:31] immibis if google returned similar links to wikipedia would there still be a difference? [15:31] immibis as* wikipedia [15:31] bnchs__ i don't think they do that anymore [15:32] immibis but if it did? [15:32] immibis if Google censored all the spam blogs? [15:34] bnchs__ ok now there's that part that requires the most mental gymnastics [15:34] TR News [Meme] EPO Behaving Like a Bank, Not Like a Patent Office | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/12/epo-behaving-like-a-bankster/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/12/epo-behaving-like-a-bankster/ [15:34] TR Bot [Meme] EPO Behaving Like a Bank, Not Like a Patent Office | Techrights [15:34] immibis yes because now you have to say censorship is sometimes good [15:35] bnchs__ i don't want them to be censored [15:35] bnchs__ but maybe i don't search on google for this [15:35] bnchs__ i search on some search engine thats for sciencetific papers [15:35] immibis you don't search on google BECAUSE google is not censoring enough [15:35] *includeals has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [15:36] bnchs__ immibis, no i still don't want censorship [15:36] immibis bnchs__: but you don't use it because of a lack of censorship [15:36] bnchs__ no it's because [15:37] bnchs__ i don't want to trust the web on shit [15:37] immibis but you are still trusting the web when you use wikipedia [15:38] bnchs__ yes because they're referenced by scienctific papers [15:38] immibis so are the google results you want [15:38] immibis the ones google would have if it censored more [15:38] bnchs__ no that's still bad [15:38] immibis but if it did that it would have better results and you'd use it [15:39] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:39] bnchs__ no [15:39] bnchs__ because i wouldn't trust it [15:39] bnchs__ if it was censoring results [15:39] immibis but you would trust wikipedia to censor results [15:40] bnchs__ wikipedia cherry picks references [15:40] immibis if they both returned the exact same results you would trust wikipedia but not google [15:40] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [15:40] immibis cherry-picking is just censorship seen from a different perspective [15:40] bnchs__ so you're saying? [15:41] TR News "First, we have to talk about the absolute galaxy brain decision by Stphane Bortzmeyer and Sean Conner to use gitlab of all places for discuss the Gemini specification." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-10-10.gmi [15:41] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@uyycfdpcfwkrc.irc) has joined #techrights [15:41] bnchs__ immibis, i use search engines that return low-quality results [15:41] TR News "Okay, so after that big fuck you to anybody not using a graphical browser, you open up your non-chromium and non-firefox NetSurf browser. Every single page is blank except for a partially populated but broken sidebar. Fuck you again, you have to use the status quo and open up your mainstream browser." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-10-10.gmi [15:42] bnchs__ but i just dig through the results [15:42] schestowitz lol [15:42] schestowitz "So after three big fuck yous you are forced to use your graphical browser with javascript enabled, and now you can actually read the full discussions. But you still can't participate at all because of course you need an account, a fourth fuck you. I didn't want to make an account, but I tried anyways and was literally unable to because gitlab got stuck endlessly running a browser check, the fifth and final fuck you." [15:43] TR News "Oh yeah gitlab also uses cloudflare, woe betide the reader who dares use Tor or cares even a modicum about their privacy (nobody on Gemini cares about privacy, right?)." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-10-10.gmi [15:43] *mimorek has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:44] bnchs__ this is why i don't wanna say my opinion because sometimes it makes me look like a retard [15:44] immibis bnchs__: well, change your opinion to one that's not retarded [15:44] bnchs__ and what is it? [15:45] immibis if your opinion makes you look like a retard then it's probably an opinion that only a retard would have, and you shouldn't have it [15:45] immibis what you just said is equivalent to "I don't say things because they could be wrong" [15:45] schestowitz I think searechj engines in general can be bypassed most of the time [15:45] schestowitz but people are taught (trained?) to "google it" [15:46] schestowitz even for things that are already in their browser history [15:46] bnchs__ in general i think that the user should be the one to cherrypick [15:48] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:48] TR News "I like to shoot on manual all the time, and most smartphones don't let you even adjust something like aperture (most phone cameras are fixed-aperture) or shutter speed & iso (even though phone cameras support manually setting it)." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-06-17.gmi [15:48] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@u6e4grxkxibun.irc) has joined #techrights [15:48] MinceR just read all the pages of results from all the search engines and you get to cherrypick :> [15:49] TR News "I am living proof that, even someone like me who has suffered from occasional impostor's syndrome, can, and will, be accepted into the linux and Free and open source software community." gemini://gemini.lottalinuxlinks.com/posts/2021-01-31-fosstodon.gmi [15:52] *kingoffrance has quit (Quit: Leaving) [15:52] bnchs__ immibis, because right now i'm still confused on this topic [15:52] immibis well that's a step better than asserting something that you feel makes you look like a retard [15:54] TR News Circle of YouTube Influencers | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/12/on-influencers/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/12/on-influencers/ [15:54] TR Bot Circle of YouTube Influencers | Techrights [15:54] bnchs__ but even with that [15:54] bnchs__ i still don't agree with search engines censoring piracy [15:55] schestowitz-TR2 they do it cause they get sued [15:55] schestowitz-TR2 not out of legit desire [15:55] schestowitz-TR2 copyright cartels buy the law [15:56] schestowitz-TR2 with people like Biden signing it off [15:56] schestowitz-TR2 and then they sue Gulag and others [15:56] schestowitz-TR2 to get their way [15:56] schestowitz-TR2 they're like "the king" [15:56] schestowitz-TR2 what's "legal" is whatever they desire [15:56] bnchs__ but most times i don't like to explain my opinion because of my lack of confidence of it's legitamacy [15:59] perfector bnchs__ agree with search engines censoring bnchs__ and hes trying to prove them right ● Mar 12 [16:00] bnchs__ ok [16:01] perfector hes building a case that will give them legitamacy to censor piracy [16:02] bnchs__ so [16:02] perfector they just dodnt do it because that will stiffle inovation [16:02] bnchs__ you're saying because of me [16:02] bnchs__ they should censor piracy? [16:02] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-pictures-3-3-22-7.jpg [16:02] Alternative link Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-pictures-3-3-22-7.jpg [16:02] perfector thats your goal [16:03] bnchs__ yeah ok [16:04] bnchs__ perfector, how am i building a case [16:04] perfector or maybe you just like them not to censor piracy so that you can get more a legal levrage on the most people as possible [16:05] bnchs__ no it's more like i wanna get something [16:05] bnchs__ it's not in my region [16:05] bnchs__ i download it [16:07] perfector the legal system is useful for getting a leverage on everyone cause everyone has committed some sort of crime in their lifes [16:07] bnchs__ yes [16:08] bnchs__ but how does censoring piracy relate to that [16:09] perfector even more after the internet you can even get leverage on people that already paid for their crimes cause the internet never forgets (or forgives) [16:09] bnchs__ yeah so? [16:09] perfector censoring piracy would make it harder for people to break the law [16:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:10] perfector so less legal leverage on fewer people [16:10] bnchs__ pirating is harmless shit [16:11] perfector untill its not [16:11] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.58 k/sec., IPFS upstream 65.91 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.39 [16:11] bnchs__ perfector, how? [16:11] perfector maybe your childrens children will have to work like slaves to pay for the stuff you pirated [16:12] bnchs__ ok maybe you're wrong on that [16:12] perfector maybe [16:12] bnchs__ copyright laws doesn't extend here [16:12] perfector laws can change [16:12] bnchs__ we pirate all day and don't give 2 shits [16:13] perfector global laws enforced global google police [16:13] perfector or some shit like that [16:13] bnchs__ and there's more incentive to pirate [16:14] bnchs__ because of DRM and shit [16:14] perfector they got your number [16:15] bnchs__ immibis, you're right, i'm wrong, maybe i shouldn't be asserting such mental gym [16:15] bnchs__ perfector, i don't care [16:15] bnchs__ they can yell at me [16:15] perfector we will be just catlel for the global ruling AI to pasture [16:16] bnchs__ they can cry about the lost profits that's just a drop of the water [16:18] immibis bnchs__: pirating would be harmless if we didn't have an economic system that relies on creating artificial barriers to accessing value and then charging people to get through the barriers. [16:22] bnchs__ XRevan86, and i'm sorry for whatever i said [16:31] *immibis_ is now known as immibis [16:31] perfector culture should be free for all [16:32] *XRevan86 shrugs. [16:33] perfector what did you do? [16:33] *XRevan86 shrugged. [16:34] perfector bnchs__ [16:34] bnchs__ justified how the russian state media should have not been downranked? [16:35] bnchs__ to be honest, being downranked is a bit better than being removed from the results [16:36] perfector https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7mdcIaXZf0 look its XRevan86 [16:36] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-7mdcIaXZf0 [16:36] TR Bot yewtu.be | Sorokin: Russia World Cup 2018 bid was clean - BBC HARDtalk - Invidious [16:37] perfector is that you XRevan86? [16:37] XRevan86 It's O.K. to have an unbiased objective ranking system, but it's also O.K. to blacklist very known bad actors, I won't stand in the way. [16:37] XRevan86 perfector: no [16:37] perfector so you are impersonating? [16:38] XRevan86 perfector: Sure :) [16:39] perfector thst you right? [16:39] XRevan86 perfector: no [16:40] XRevan86 perfector: And stop trying to dig me up [16:40] bnchs__ i really thought alexei was your name [16:40] perfector but you live in california? [16:40] bnchs__ i kinda looked up your name a week ago [16:41] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:41] XRevan86 bnchs__: I wish it were harder. [16:41] XRevan86 perfector: I wish. [16:42] *MinceR engages in robbery at sea [16:42] perfector florida? [16:42] XRevan86 perfector: If I were, I would not have regretted my openness over the years. [16:43] XRevan86 perfector: I'm in flipping Russia. [16:43] XRevan86 Not "from", "in". [16:46] bnchs__ i still find it odd that they didn't downrank nor censor western media [16:46] psydroid8 Hotel California [16:46] bnchs__ yet [16:48] perfector they dont cause they want to know who is watching it [16:48] XRevan86 No, the reason is simple: censorship targets people who only know one language well, the "normies" if ye will. [16:49] XRevan86 It's pointless to try to limit information flow to the more savvy people, because it'll be way harder and they'll circumvent it anyway. [16:50] perfector and they want to know who is watching it [16:50] perfector it goes in your profile [16:50] bnchs__ and there's the problem [16:50] XRevan86 I have no evidence of that. [16:50] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:51] bnchs__ that happened with covid-19 and the christchruch (does anyone remember that) shooting [16:51] bnchs__ they straight up ranked up all the news channels whenever you search query was related to covid-19 [16:52] bnchs__ and in the christchruch shooting, they removed the option to sort in search result [16:52] bnchs__ temporarily of course [16:55] perfector there should be a law against having to register to watch twiter facebook and whatelse [16:55] perfector they are forcing people to agree to their spyware laws [16:56] perfector to watch public content [16:56] bnchs__ use nitter [16:56] perfector thats completely fuckedup [16:56] bnchs__ facebook is garbage content [16:57] perfector i could se a point if you wanted to make comments [16:57] perfector still [16:57] perfector this us laws are completlly bs [16:57] bnchs__ i wonder if theres anything valuable in facebook [16:57] bnchs__ rather than reuploads of videos recompressed 12 times into a 144p video [16:57] bnchs__ with thousands of watermarks ● Mar 12 [17:03] perfector nitter? [17:03] perfector that shit doesent work [17:03] bnchs__ well i don't know it works for me [17:03] perfector it worked [17:04] perfector https://nitter.net/Kyruer [17:04] TR Bot MrRevinsky (@Kyruer) | nitter [17:04] perfector some junk [17:06] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:12] psydroid8 facebook is nothing more than an ad distribution and censorship platform [17:15] perfector russian junk is geting rekt [17:16] perfector https://nitter.net/SputnikATO/status/1502693102909276167#m [17:16] TR Bot News (@SputnikATO): " - " | nitter [17:31] perfector theres no nitter for telegram is there? [17:34] MinceR (cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/815374.jpg [17:34] Alternative link Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/815374.jpg [17:49] *mimorek (~mimorek@trhncgdin767n.irc) has joined #techrights [17:52] MinceR https://nitter.eu/Theophite/status/1502503870416646145 [17:52] TR Bot rev. howard arson (@Theophite): "world war three cannot start until the russian military is capable of fueling a tank thirty miles into someone else's territory. the city of kyiv, where a substantial amount of russian materiel is now parked, is only slightly further away from moscow than san francisco is from LA" | nitter [17:53] XRevan86 "Crap, now everyone in the world knows the state of our military" [17:55] MinceR :) [17:56] XRevan86 A surprise to no one, even I here mentioned things about the state of Russian military (prior to the war). [17:56] schestowitz-TR2 do nukes need to refuel in midflight? [17:56] XRevan86 "to no one" <- Except Putin I guess. [17:56] XRevan86 schestowitz: They might land on Voronezh. [17:57] schestowitz-TR2 IC [17:57] schestowitz-TR2 BM [17:57] XRevan86 "O.K., we just need slight course correction" [17:57] MinceR someone claimed there that plutonium needs to be replaced every 10 years [17:57] schestowitz-TR2 they should make the ICBMs electroci [17:57] MinceR so it's possible that russian ICBMs are duds [17:58] schestowitz-TR2 to make them more green and environmentally-friendlu [17:58] MinceR lol [17:58] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Mar 12 [18:00] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@yfj9xvtb6yewi.irc) has joined #techrights [18:01] XRevan86 There are rumours that Russia is planning a "referendum" in Kherson to declare a KhPR. [18:01] XRevan86 I wonder when Japan picks that strategy up and occupies a certain island. [18:03] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [18:04] TR News EPO Advertises European Patents and Jobs Based on Deliberate Falsehoods (Lies) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/12/killing-its-own/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/12/killing-its-own/ [18:04] TR Bot EPO Advertises European Patents and Jobs Based on Deliberate Falsehoods (Lies) | Techrights [18:05] schestowitz-TR2 XRevan86: which island? [18:05] schestowitz-TR2 guam? [18:05] schestowitz-TR2 hawaii? [18:06] schestowitz-TR2 taiwan? [18:06] MinceR probably one of the chain connecting it to terrorussia [18:06] MinceR or more [18:06] schestowitz-TR2 iirc, they once laid claims to it too [18:06] schestowitz-TR2 MinceR: korea :-) [18:06] XRevan86 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Kuril_Chain this one [18:06] TR Bot Greater Kuril Chain - Wikipedia [18:06] MinceR korea is not an island [18:06] schestowitz-TR2 "comfort border" [18:07] MinceR at least until northern korea is blown up with a WMD of sufficient power, anyway [18:07] MinceR or until the sea level rises sufficiently [18:07] XRevan86 or rather https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuril_Islands [18:07] TR Bot Kuril Islands - Wikipedia [18:08] MinceR i suppose if they wanted another poor region, they could also occupy sakhalin [18:08] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@hngiv8sdpiaf2.irc) has joined #techrights [18:09] schestowitz-TR2 MinceR: sounds like a SUICIDE mission [18:09] XRevan86 schestowitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuril_Islands_dispute after WW2 the USSR took some islands from Japan. [18:09] TR Bot Kuril Islands dispute - Wikipedia [18:09] XRevan86 > On March 7, 2022 Prime Minister of Japan Fumio Kishida declared that the southern Kurils are "a territory peculiar to Japan, a territory in which Japan has sovereignty." On March 8, Foreign Minister Yoshimasa Hayashi described the four islands as an "integral part" of Japan. This is in response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. [18:10] XRevan86 Japan is jumping onto the bandwagon to get a piece of that pie. [18:10] MinceR you mean, to get back part of its territory [18:11] TR News A paradox. Windows itself is a toy or a game. You're being played, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjHfCDPfLdI [18:11] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KjHfCDPfLdI [18:11] TR Bot yewtu.be | Optimize Windows for Gaming - Invidious [18:11] XRevan86 MinceR: Maybe, just pointing out the opportunistic nature of the rhetoric. [18:12] TR News Wine 7.4 Dev Released! Vkd3d bundle, Defauts to Light Theme http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162457#comment-33043 [18:12] TR Bot Wine 7.4 changes the default theme and more PE conversion work | Tux Machines [18:14] XRevan86 MinceR: And of course that if Japan were to act like Russia, they could've resolved this dispute in a jiffy. [18:15] MinceR if they knew that russia does not have nuclear attack capability, which we don't know with certainty [18:16] TR News Help! Backspace Doesn't Work in the Linux Terminal

Read more [18:16] TR Bot Help! Backspace Doesn't Work in the Linux Terminal [18:18] TR News http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162392#comment-33044Afraid of the big bad Linux desktop? Zorin 16.1 is here [18:18] TR Bot Zorin OS 16.1 is Here, Creators to Donate All Profits from Zorin OS Pro to Aid Ukraine | Tux Machines [18:19] perfector damn weekend now ill have to wait till monday to get kernel updated to stable version [18:19] TR News Afraid of the big bad Linux desktop? Zorin 16.1 is here http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162392#comment-33044 [18:19] TR Bot Zorin OS 16.1 is Here, Creators to Donate All Profits from Zorin OS Pro to Aid Ukraine | Tux Machines [18:19] SomeH4x0r wtf are you adverising? Some crazy-paid-GNu/Linux? [18:19] SomeH4x0r *GNU [18:19] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162472 [18:19] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [18:20] perfector Zorin is a windows look alike [18:20] SomeH4x0r devil creators should not be paid [18:20] perfector what would you expect? [18:20] SomeH4x0r pay once, distribute forever [18:20] SomeH4x0r and refund [18:21] TR News Has Gardiner Bryant defected over to marketing for Valve? https://yewtu.be/watch?v=E_qKUNUly7M see http://techrights.org/2022/03/12/on-influencers/ [18:21] TR Bot The hidden way the Steam Deck will forever change your gaming experience. If you give it a chance... - Invidious [18:21] TR Bot Circle of YouTube Influencers | Techrights [18:21] TR News Steam Deck Benchmark Battle: I wasnt expecting this! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=c7_SlNWm3oc [18:21] TR Bot Steam Deck Benchmark Battle: I wasn't expecting this! - Invidious [18:22] SomeH4x0r Internet could have been left money-free at least, if not fucking corporations [18:22] TR News The EPO has long behaved like its sole goal was money maximisation, not science, let alone compliance with the EPC, so its hardly surprising that it is stiffing its very own workers (who do and did all the actual work) http://techrights.org/2022/03/12/epo-behaving-like-a-bankster/ [18:22] TR Bot [Meme] EPO Behaving Like a Bank, Not Like a Patent Office | Techrights [18:24] *bnchs___ (~bnchs@g7jrsi3h8q3xe.irc) has joined #techrights [18:25] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:26] *bnchs (~bnchs@pxf8793hthpdk.irc) has joined #techrights [18:26] perfector cyberpunk stalled on steam os but not on windows [18:26] TR News The images above, explained in the video below them, hopefully sum up the state of the Web, the state of YouTube (GulagTube), and the state of journalism; online cabals and sometimes corporate mobs are running ads as content http://techrights.org/2022/03/12/on-influencers/ [18:26] *bnchs___ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:27] TR News The workforce of Europes largest patent office (notably patent examiners from all across Europe) is being robbed by corrupt management that illegally transformed the EPO into a gambling vessel, exploiting longstanding impunity to destroy not only the Office but also the European economy http://techrights.org/2022/03/12/killing-its-own/ [18:27] TR Bot EPO Advertises European Patents and Jobs Based on Deliberate Falsehoods (Lies) | Techrights [18:28] perfector at 3,20m [18:31] TR News "A quick post today, but I just released comitium, yet another feed aggregator for Gemini! None of the other aggregators that I've found do quite everything I want them to do, so I decided to write my own." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-03-20.gmi [18:32] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@qdv2b58e6d38e.irc) has joined #techrights [18:32] *bnchs___ (~bnchs@2g9afdqsvd6e2.irc) has joined #techrights [18:32] TR News "I'm doing well! My hatred for the node ecosystem has reached previously unimaginable heights. Definitely justified." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-03-12-anti-procrastination-update.gmi [18:32] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:33] *psydroid8 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:33] perfector what the node ecosystem? [18:34] perfector whats the tor adress for gemini? [18:34] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:35] TR News "Today I set up GPG in my mutt on sdf.org account. It wasn't as easy, as it could be. 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Gunderson [19:03] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:04] TR News You know youve been in Finland too long, when https://dt.iki.fi/you-finland-too-long [19:04] TR Bot know youve been in Finland too long, when | dt.iki.fi [19:05] TR News Dirk Eddelbuettel: RcppGSL 0.3.11: Small Maintenance http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/03/12#rcppgsl_0.3.11 [19:05] TR Bot Thinking inside the box [19:06] *bnchs (~bnchs@h2y8awar24avk.irc) has joined #techrights [19:06] bnchs hello [19:06] *bnchs___ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:07] TR News "Spotted within the IGSCU FU in Linux, the Intel SOC3 which is the codename for the DG2-256 GPU has been spotted." https://wccftech.com/intel-dg2-256-soc3-gpu-spotted-with-256-eus-2048-alus/ [19:07] TR Bot Intel's Third Xe-HPG Powered DG2 GPU Spotted: DG2-256 'SOC3' With 256 EUs, 2048 ALUs [19:07] schestowitz-TR2 0/ [19:09] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@6zwh5ctbpjtmw.irc) has joined #techrights [19:10] TR News Read more [19:10] TR Bot Arch Linux Turns 20 - Slashdot [19:10] TR News Jolla brings AppSupport for Android apps on Linux platforms Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162478 [19:10] TR Bot Jolla brings AppSupport for Android apps on Linux platforms | Tux Machines [19:10] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162479 [19:10] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:11] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [19:11] *bnchs___ (~bnchs@ig3ab24zb3hci.irc) has joined #techrights [19:13] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:14] bnchs___ i wonder, who writes the punchline for the news [19:14] bnchs___ in techrights-news bot [19:15] TR News Hey, "WindowsReport", tell Windows useds [sic] how to install REAL GNU/Linux, not Microsoft's fake that's an ATTACK on GNU/Linux https://windowsreport.com/uninstall-wsl-windows-11/ [19:15] TR Bot How to uninstall WSL in Windows 11 [19:16] TR News Microsoft-loving sites also love (bashing) Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162251#comment-33045 see Microsoft-loving sites also love (bashing) Linux [19:16] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:16] TR News BTW, its my birthday - Arch Linux becomes 20 years old today Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162480 [19:16] TR Bot BTW, its my birthday - Arch Linux becomes 20 years old today | Tux Machines [19:17] TR News Sounds like someone has a "mancrush" https://www.modernghana.com/sports/1144581/i-want-to-play-with-cristiano-ronaldo-before-he.html [19:17] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.modernghana.com/sports/1144581/i-want-to-play-with-cristiano-ronaldo-before-he.html ) [19:17] Alternative link Cloudflare: modernghana.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.modernghana.com/sports/1144581/i-want-to-play-with-cristiano-ronaldo-before-he.html [19:18] TR News Manchester United 3 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur. 2 more mins+extra time. [19:20] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-pictures-3-3-22-19.jpg [19:20] Alternative link Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-pictures-3-3-22-19.jpg [19:21] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@kimbxir39p8m4.irc) has joined #techrights [19:22] *bnchs___ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:24] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmvKubMDIcY [19:24] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=RmvKubMDIcY [19:24] TR Bot yewtu.be | Manchester United vs Tottenham 3-2 HighLights and Goal 2022 - Invidious [19:24] *oarion7 (anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [19:26] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [19:29] TR News John Cleese Absolutely OBLITERATES Woke BBC Interviewer on Her 'Cancel Culture Agenda' - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tJ7PPUTT3KY [19:29] TR Bot John Cleese Absolutely OBLITERATES 'Woke' BBC Interviewer on Her 'Cancel Culture Agenda' - Invidious [19:34] TR News HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/neuromorphic_chips_sandia/ [19:34] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/neuromorphic_chips_sandia/ [19:34] TR Bot Sandia: Brain-like neurochips chips useful in supercomputers The Register [19:37] TR News Joseph 'Stalin' Biden resorts to xenophobia in the dying economy that is his own. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/10/us/politics/biden-putin-inflation.html [19:37] Alternative link Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/10/us/politics/biden-putin-inflation.html [19:37] TR Bot Biden Urges Americans to Blame Rising Prices on Putin. Many Do, for Now. - The New York Times [19:37] bnchs__ brain like neurochips [19:37] bnchs__ so they're planning to put brains in supercomputers [19:37] MinceR yum yum [19:37] bnchs__ but don't worry [19:37] bnchs__ it's "brain-like neurochips" [19:38] TR News When the real economy is collapsing no wonder many run away to fake/parallel ones https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/biden_executive_order_cryptocurrency/ [19:38] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/biden_executive_order_cryptocurrency/ [19:38] TR Bot Biden issues Executive Order to tame digital currencies The Register [19:38] schestowitz-TR2 just don't forget to cook the semiconductor first [19:38] schestowitz-TR2 to kill the germs [19:39] TR News "The Canadian government is investing CA$240m ($187m) to boost the country's semiconductor and photonics segments in hopes of bolstering its role in the global market." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/canadian_chip_investment/ [19:39] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/canadian_chip_investment/ [19:39] TR Bot Canada invests in semiconductors and photonics The Register [19:39] MinceR make it crispy [19:43] bnchs__ proprietary source code leaks are bad for free software [19:45] MinceR if it's bad for free software, you can bet on it happening a lot more [19:46] TR News Trust in British media almost lowest in the whole of EU - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ULfqhCNHQPA [19:46] TR Bot John Cleese on Brexit, newspapers and why he's leaving the UK - BBC Newsnight - Invidious [19:52] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:57] TR News Akin to Trump-era blackmail https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/us_warns_chinese_chipmakers/ [19:57] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/us_warns_chinese_chipmakers/ [19:57] TR Bot US warns Chinese chipmakers: Don't sell to Russia The Register ● Mar 12 [20:02] TR News FSF appoints program manager Kooyman as executive director http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162003#comment-33047 [20:02] TR Bot Free Software Foundation announces new executive director, Zo Kooyman | Tux Machines [20:04] TR News The mainframe is dying: just like IBM... https://www.cio.com/article/306280/the-mainframe-is-dying-long-live-the-mainframe-application.html [20:04] TR Bot mainframe is dying: Long live the mainframe application! | CIO [20:05] TR News Heres how I brought a 2010 MacBook Pro back to life Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162481 [20:05] TR Bot Here's how I brought a 2010 MacBook Pro back to life | Tux Machines [20:07] TR News Gulag collusion https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/cma_ec_blue_jedi/ [20:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/cma_ec_blue_jedi/ [20:07] TR Bot Google and Meta ad deal under investigation in Europe The Register [20:09] TR News your [20:09] MinceR no, your [20:09] TR News "This is often done with a "TOTP app" or "Token-Based Authenticator", which is normally installed on your smartphone." IOW, a back door. Bad solution. gemini://ruario.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-03-10_MFA-involving-TOTP-simplified.gmi [20:09] schestowitz-TR2 MinceR: O U! 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Are they coming back? - News from southeastern Connecticut [20:19] TR News Making excuses for oligarchy, reputation laundering based on a false assumption of meritocracy https://fee.org/articles/why-anger-against-the-elites-is-misplaced/ [20:19] Alternative link Cloudflare: fee.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://fee.org/articles/why-anger-against-the-elites-is-misplaced/ [20:19] TR Bot Why Anger Against the Elites Is Misplaced - Foundation for Economic Education [20:20] TR News Wall Street bubbles https://seekingalpha.com/article/4493205-elastic-stock-buy-near-2018-ipo [20:20] Alternative link Cloudflare: seekingalpha.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://seekingalpha.com/article/4493205-elastic-stock-buy-near-2018-ipo [20:20] TR Bot Elastic Stock: A Chance To Buy Near 2018 IPO Prices (NYSE:ESTC) | Seeking Alpha [20:21] TR News Plenty of money available for fake 'journalism' https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php [20:21] Alternative link Cloudflare: cjr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php [20:21] TR Bot Journalisms Gates keepers - Columbia Journalism Review [20:23] TR News Fake security has been popularised https://www.makeuseof.com/what-is-pass-the-hash-attack/ we already know states DO want back doors, they even MANDATE these [20:23] TR Bot What Is a Pass the Hash Attack and How Does It Work? [20:24] TR News This is mostly adding complicity and bloat https://hackernoon.com/10-reasons-why-you-should-use-docker [20:24] Alternative link Cloudflare: hackernoon.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hackernoon.com/10-reasons-why-you-should-use-docker [20:24] TR Bot Dockerizing Applications is the Key to Building Scalable Software | HackerNoon [20:24] TR News This is mostly adding complexity and bloat https://hackernoon.com/10-reasons-why-you-should-use-docker [20:24] Alternative link Cloudflare: hackernoon.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hackernoon.com/10-reasons-why-you-should-use-docker [20:25] TR News The Register now pushes fake news for Microsoft Azure, which not only failed but also has layoffs. They use fictional meters to make it seem like AWS loses to Microsoft. [20:27] TR News The real cost of Microsoft Windows https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/fbi_says_ragnar_locker_ransomware/ see http://techrights.org/2021/05/02/ransomware-task-force/ [20:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/fbi_says_ragnar_locker_ransomware/ [20:27] TR Bot Ragnar Locker ransomware hits critical infrastructure The Register [20:27] TR Bot Microsoft-Centric Ransomware Task Force | Techrights [20:28] TR News "Yet another top-tier PC maker seemingly isn't interested right now in Microsoft's vision of hardware-level security for Windows 11 systems." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/dell_pluton_microsoft/ fake security http://techrights.org/2022/01/09/ppp-traitors/ [20:28] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/dell_pluton_microsoft/ [20:28] TR Bot Dell opts out of Microsoft's Pluton security for Windows The Register [20:28] TR Bot Pluton Proponents Working for Plutocracy (and Pentagon Agenda) | Techrights [20:29] TR News When the real economy is collapsing people resort to fantasies and there are people looking to prey on them https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/12/cryptocurrency_atms_banned/ [20:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/12/cryptocurrency_atms_banned/ [20:29] TR Bot FCA: Cryptocurrency ATMs are illegal right now in UK The Register [20:31] TR News Steve and Connie Ballmer avoid paying tax https://www.philanthropy.com/article/montana-governor-gianforte-and-wife-give-50-million-to-state-u in the US the oligarchs paint themselves as "philanthropists" for tax avoidance reasons [20:31] TR Bot Montana Governor Gianforte and Wife Give $50 Million to State U. [20:33] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [20:33] perfector anyone in here [20:33] XRevan86 Is there anybody in there? [20:33] TR News Greenwashing and glorification of surveillance. Forbes = the voice of oligarchy. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesmorris/2022/03/12/connected-cars-are-just-as-revolutionary-as-electric-vehicles/ [20:33] Alternative link Cloudflare: forbes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesmorris/2022/03/12/connected-cars-are-just-as-revolutionary-as-electric-vehicles/ [20:33] TR Bot Connected Cars Are Just As Revolutionary As Electric Vehicles [20:33] XRevan86 Just nod if ye can hear me. [20:34] *perfector nods [20:34] activelow Dobra Vecher [20:34] TR News Pump-n-dumping. Financial webspam is abundant, as journalism online is so rare. https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/looking-for-safe-double-digit-returns-check-out-dropbox-stock [20:34] Alternative link Cloudflare: nasdaq.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/looking-for-safe-double-digit-returns-check-out-dropbox-stock [20:35] perfector dobra arashova [20:36] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:36] perfector i fuess with this war gpus will get even more expensive? [20:39] perfector keep checking BTC in the hopes it collapses for month now [20:40] activelow rumors were, some banks will default, in april, supposedly russian's [20:41] MinceR didn't the european branch of sberbank already default? [20:41] activelow default how? russia was hoarding a surplus of cash [20:41] perfector https://nitter.net/SputnikATO/status/1502734025152151552#m [20:42] activelow didn't see any latest TARGET2 balances anymore for some time... soon we'll know [20:42] perfector its the Larry music :) [20:42] psydroid2 why are gpus so important? [20:42] schestowitz-TR2 gamezzzz [20:43] activelow they aren't; directfb/libsdl2 render many linux games nicely, with the main-cpu into framebuffer [20:43] schestowitz-TR2 gameZ wihout tonx of ploygons cannot possibly be enjoyable [20:43] activelow and, there's many games available [20:44] perfector my gpu over 10 years old [20:44] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [20:44] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [20:45] perfector only 1gb vram [20:45] schestowitz-TR2 my over 10 year old is a GPU ;-) [20:45] schestowitz-TR2 perfector: does yo mama know? [20:45] perfector minimum now is 2 gb vram [20:46] schestowitz-TR2 only "poor" people have "old" GPUs [20:46] schestowitz-TR2 or "phones" that have "only" one core CPU [20:46] perfector only rich people have new ones [20:46] schestowitz-TR2 we really need 8 parallel cores working to make a phonecall ;-) [20:46] schestowitz-TR2 perfector: computer need to eat up 100 watts [20:46] perfector to think i could have goten 150 euros gpu that now costs 300+ [20:47] schestowitz-TR2 not 5 like my wife's [20:47] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@vs875gk3q8pm4.irc) has joined #techrights [20:47] schestowitz-TR2 if computers become more efficienty [20:47] perfector i was aiming for r570 [20:47] schestowitz-TR2 they will add bloat [20:47] schestowitz-TR2 to keep sales going [20:48] DaemonFC Samsung adds bloat so fast that they make negative progress on CPU resources. [20:48] perfector so fucking dumb [20:48] DaemonFC It's almost unreal that the phone is just overflowing with junk. [20:48] DaemonFC What kind of company would do that to their own product? [20:49] TR News HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI! APPLY TODAY!! HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI. "AI Platform Senior Software Developer..." https://it-online.co.za/2022/03/11/ai-platform-senior-software-developer-semi-remote-r680-per-hour-at-emerge-it-recruitment/ Then you have recruits on the phone asking about "Smart" and "Clown" and "HEY HI" [20:49] TR Bot AI Platform Senior Software Developer - Semi Remote - R680 Per hour at eMerge IT Recruitment - IT-Online [20:49] psydroid2 integrated gpus are becoming pretty good [20:49] perfector what do you mean you dont think more stuff is better what are you a socialist? [20:49] psydroid2 and don't cost a fortune [20:49] schestowitz-TR2 psydroid2: worse! [20:50] schestowitz-TR2 "efficiency nazis" [20:50] psydroid2 lol [20:51] perfector more stuff is to make your life more eficient [20:51] TR News Ha! I almost spat out my coffee when I scrolled down to pricing. Come on, Apple, add a trigger warning for laughter. https://forums.appleinsider.com/discussion/226594 [20:51] Alternative link Cloudflare: appleinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://forums.appleinsider.com/discussion/226594 [20:51] TR Bot Which upgrades are worth it for the Mac Studio - Current Mac Hardware Discussions on AppleInsider Forums [20:51] psydroid2 or less efficient? [20:51] psydroid2 by getting you to buy stuff that you don't really need [20:51] schestowitz-TR2 psydroid2: we need clippy in text editors [20:51] schestowitz-TR2 sending to the "clown" what we type [20:51] schestowitz-TR2 for suggestions [20:52] perfector more efficient at having a fulfilling experience [20:52] schestowitz-TR2 and the microphone doing TTS and vice versa [20:52] schestowitz-TR2 get them core used up! [20:52] psydroid2 what is a fulfilling experience? [20:52] psydroid2 yoga? [20:52] DaemonFC https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/12/tech/russia-internet-censorship-circumvention/index.html [20:52] Alternative link Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/12/tech/russia-internet-censorship-circumvention/index.html [20:52] TR Bot internet users are learning to beat Putin's internet crackdown | CNN Business [20:52] psydroid2 meditation? [20:52] DaemonFC VPNs are illegal in Russia, I think. [20:52] perfector read bloated experience [20:52] DaemonFC CNN says Russian "smart"phone users are downloading them anyway. By the millions. [20:52] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: maybe the ones their intel services cannot crack [20:52] DaemonFC Tor bridges probably work. [20:52] perfector thats why they fill it with stof [20:52] schestowitz-TR2 i.e. similar to most countries [20:53] perfector more stuff more fullfiled you shoul feel [20:53] DaemonFC "Switzerland-based Proton, for example, told CNN Business it has seen a 1,000% spike in signups from Russia this month." [20:53] schestowitz-TR2 Proton LOL [20:54] schestowitz https://www.google.com/search?q=proton+french+activist&source=hp&ei=XggtYpmfG4j2gAaB_LqwBA&iflsig=AHkkrS4AAAAAYi0WbnrrC20VNIK686zDpfc8ZrvvMkEA&ved=0ahUKEwiZxsynusH2AhUIO8AKHQG-DkYQ4dUDCAk&uact=5&oq=proton+french+activist&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQghEKABMgUIIRCgAToICAAQgAQQsQM6EQguEIAEELEDEMcBENEDENQCOgsILhCABBCxAxDUAjoFCAAQgAQ6BwgAEIAEEAo6CAgAEIAEEMkDOgYIABAWEB46CAgAEAgQDRAeOgcIIRAKEKABUABYpRhg7RloAHAAeAGAAfwFiAH1K5IBDTEuNy40LjIuMy4xLjGYAQCgAQKgAQE& [20:54] TR Bot french activist - Google Search [20:54] schestowitz sclient=gws-wiz [20:54] psydroid2 trying to mask Valve's Proton now [20:54] perfector proton is from steam [20:54] schestowitz run that through gulag [20:54] DaemonFC ProtonMail [20:54] DaemonFC Same company as ProtonVPN? [20:54] schestowitz no laack of coveraged [20:54] schestowitz DaemonFC: same [20:54] schestowitz yes, I think same company [20:55] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProtonVPN [20:55] TR Bot ProtonVPN - Wikipedia [20:55] schestowitz "ProtonVPN is a VPN service operated by the Swiss company Proton Technologies AG, the company behind the email service ProtonMail." [20:55] schestowitz They uses Swizerland for marketing [20:55] schestowitz Swizerland is OK for chocolate [20:55] schestowitz and tax evasion [20:55] schestowitz and that's about it [20:55] schestowitz for ski you can go somewhere else, pay less [20:56] *includeals (~includeal@a89-153-106-143.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #techrights [20:56] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/11/truck-hits-long-grove-covered-bridge-marking-more-than-20-times-historic-bridge-has-been-struck/ [20:56] Alternative link Cloudflare: lakemchenryscanner.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/11/truck-hits-long-grove-covered-bridge-marking-more-than-20-times-historic-bridge-has-been-struck/ [20:56] TR Bot Truck hits Long Grove Covered Bridge, marking more than 20 times historic bridge has been struck [20:56] perfector tax evasion not so much [20:56] DaemonFC "The bridge, which is listed on the National Register of Historic Places, has been hit well over 20 times now." [20:56] perfector i think ireland is better [20:56] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/03/03/tumblr-gets-deep-03-03-22/ [20:56] Alternative link Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/03/03/tumblr-gets-deep-03-03-22/ [20:56] TR Bot 24 Funny Tumblr Posts That Deserve Your Attention Today [20:57] perfector so does google and facebook ... [20:57] DaemonFC MinceR, You'd think that someone would read the height clearance on the truck and the height clearance on the bridge. [20:57] DaemonFC And go "You know, 11 feet is bigger than 8.5 feet. I think I'd better go around!". [20:58] TR News It would be obsolete if more people used ODF https://www.androidheadlines.com/2022/03/30-years-later-the-idea-of-pdf-still-living.html [20:58] Alternative link Cloudflare: androidheadlines.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.androidheadlines.com/2022/03/30-years-later-the-idea-of-pdf-still-living.html [20:58] TR Bot 30 Years Later The Idea Of The PDF Format Is Still Living [20:58] DaemonFC In fact, smart people leave room for error. [20:58] DaemonFC If the height clearance of the truck is over 8 feet and the bridge says the clearance is 8.5, I probably still wouldn't go in there. [20:58] DaemonFC This is 2nd grade math. [20:59] perfector pdf is an apple thing [20:59] DaemonFC I've seen cases where the signage was wrong and someone went inside a tunnel and got stuck. [20:59] perfector thats why it took off [20:59] DaemonFC And the police fined them anyway, even though the sign said they were okay. [20:59] TR News No, Samsung, we don't need so much RAM and CPU cores... on a "phone" https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-Galaxy-A53-5G-Leak-reveals-an-Exynos-1280-and-other-details-of-the-imminent-mid-range-phone.606689.0.html or 64,000,000 crude, lousy pixels from undersized aperture. Massive files, no crispness. [20:59] Alternative link Cloudflare: notebookcheck.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-Galaxy-A53-5G-Leak-reveals-an-Exynos-1280-and-other-details-of-the-imminent-mid-range-phone.606689.0.html [20:59] TR Bot Galaxy A53 5G: Leak reveals an Exynos 1280 and other details of the imminent mid-range phone - NotebookCheck.net News [20:59] DaemonFC schestowitz, Samsung supplies Google with CPUs for the Pixel phones. ● Mar 12 [21:00] DaemonFC But it's not bogged down under crapware, so the battery lasts a lot longer on the Pixel. [21:00] MinceR DaemonFC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USu8vT_tfdw [21:00] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=USu8vT_tfdw [21:00] TR Bot yewtu.be | The Definitive 11Foot8 Bridge Crash Compilation - Invidious [21:00] perfector there an android decrapifier thing [21:00] perfector but its complicated [21:00] DaemonFC MinceR, "Excellence Moving and Storage, Inc."...... [21:00] DaemonFC Excellent! [21:01] perfector whats this thing about bridges? [21:01] DaemonFC Wow, that's like a cumpilation of trucks getting destroyed by overpasses. [21:02] TR News WordPress became so ubiquitous. https://wptavern.com/strattic-acquires-wp2static-plugin-plans-to-relaunch-on-wordpress-org I was involved in its earlier years [21:02] Alternative link Cloudflare: wptavern.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://wptavern.com/strattic-acquires-wp2static-plugin-plans-to-relaunch-on-wordpress-org [21:02] TR Bot Strattic Acquires WP2Static Plugin, Plans to Relaunch on WordPress.org WP Tavern [21:02] perfector its like giant can openners [21:03] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: yes, gulag and android I lost interest in before android O [21:04] schestowitz-TR2 when they started toggling bugs (listening devices) on [21:04] schestowitz-TR2 it became of no interest to me [21:04] DaemonFC MinceR, 3:00..... They had the top line of their "Budget" shaved. [21:04] schestowitz-TR2 their clients are not the users [21:04] MinceR :> [21:05] schestowitz-TR2 but carriers, hardware companies, governments, and "clown" [21:05] schestowitz-TR2 the buyers are the products [21:05] DaemonFC Let's admit something here, MinceR schestowitz-TR2 too because he's British. [21:05] schestowitz MinceR: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162481 [21:05] TR Bot Here's how I brought a 2010 MacBook Pro back to life | Tux Machines [21:05] schestowitz those machines can be redeemed [21:05] DaemonFC James Bond has been going downhill for a lot of reasons, but the quality and quantity of the quips has been a big one. [21:06] schestowitz the brand? [21:06] MinceR schestowitz: and they still remain low quality, tacky crap [21:06] schestowitz franchise? [21:06] schestowitz or the latest flick? [21:06] DaemonFC Yeah. [21:06] schestowitz which one? [21:06] DaemonFC Well, both. [21:06] schestowitz watch https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ULfqhCNHQPA [21:06] TR Bot John Cleese on Brexit, newspapers and why he's leaving the UK - BBC Newsnight - Invidious [21:06] DaemonFC The latest one just kills everyone that's supposed to have main plot armor, and it does it in such a stupid way. [21:07] schestowitz where he explains why monty python became MORE popular in the US than the UK [21:07] schestowitz it's in the first 1-2 mins [21:07] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [21:08] DaemonFC The opening songs have been pretty bad too. [21:08] schestowitz-TR2 from rusha wif luv [21:08] DaemonFC Adele was the last good opening they had. [21:08] schestowitz-TR2 goldfinger [21:08] schestowitz-TR2 tomorrow never dies [21:08] DaemonFC Now it's just 5 more minutes to take a piss in case the 30 minutes of commercials past movie start time wasn't enough. [21:09] schestowitz-TR2 "tomorrow never dies" was very good [21:09] DaemonFC Well, all British comedy isn't bad. Mr. Bean was always incredibly funny. [21:09] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [21:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [21:09] schestowitz TOMORROW NEVER DIES | 007 commandeers a jet - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=nwMSkHKKusQ [21:09] TR Bot TOMORROW NEVER DIES | 007 commandeers a jet - Invidious [21:09] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [21:09] DaemonFC Red Dwarf used to be. Most stuff on "Dave TV" has been a retread. [21:10] schestowitz opening song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BxTwJtpGYA [21:10] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2BxTwJtpGYA [21:10] TR Bot yewtu.be | Sheryl Crow - Tomorrow Never Dies - Invidious [21:10] DaemonFC Up through 1999, Red Dwarf was good. It was really low budget but it wasn't serious so you didn't care. [21:10] schestowitz heryl Crow can sing [21:10] schestowitz unlke 99% of today's co-called 'singers' [21:11] schestowitz they try cto compensate for it with manipulation of voices in studios [21:11] MinceR DaemonFC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO6x0eBnrmU [21:11] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tO6x0eBnrmU [21:11] TR Bot yewtu.be | Can Opener Bridge Has Been Raised - But Not Enough! - Invidious [21:11] DaemonFC Yeah, everyone can sing along with the James Bond themes through Adele for the most part. [21:11] DaemonFC And then they've been striking out bad. [21:11] DaemonFC The older ones were the best. [21:11] schestowitz 4the production behind this song is also good [21:11] schestowitz the instruments, the rendition [21:12] DaemonFC I don't even remember who did the latest one. [21:12] schestowitz now they fear copyright lawsuits and so they rely on drum machines and "sound engineers" [21:12] DaemonFC schestowitz, He talks about trust in media. [21:12] DaemonFC 22% among the Dutch. [21:12] DaemonFC It's less than that among Americans in the media here. [21:13] DaemonFC Only about 2% of US adults watch cable news, at all. [21:13] schestowitz the complexity of songs nd music fell sharply [21:13] DaemonFC 98.something percent don't watch it at all. [21:13] schestowitz number of simultaneous instrumentrs [21:13] DaemonFC So it's 98%+ don't watch it. [21:13] schestowitz the skills were lost [21:13] DaemonFC Their goal is to brainwash extremists and get their talking points out there. [21:13] schestowitz I guess nowadays they don't teach people how to compose [21:13] DaemonFC Then when your friends and family repeat them, then they burrow into your brain. [21:14] DaemonFC Because you don't listen to some idiot on some corrupt and fake news, but you might trust your mom or brother or friend at work more. 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Now that call everything that... https://www.orlandoweekly.com/orlando/new-on-netflix-ryan-murphy-programs-an-ai-to-read-the-andy-warhol-diaries-aloud/Content?oid=31146606 [21:17] Alternative link Cloudflare: orlandoweekly.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.orlandoweekly.com/orlando/new-on-netflix-ryan-murphy-programs-an-ai-to-read-the-andy-warhol-diaries-aloud/Content?oid=31146606 [21:17] TR Bot New on Netflix: Ryan Murphy programs an A.I. to read The Andy Warhol Diaries aloud | Streaming | Orlando | Orlando Weekly [21:17] DaemonFC Everyone else sees the spectacles playing out. The crime, the nonsense, how it takes all of the cops in the city because some nutcase is trying to set the train car on fire with gasoline. [21:17] *schestowitz (~roy@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [21:17] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +q #techrights schestowitz [21:17] DaemonFC And they go "What in the fuck is actually going on here?". [21:17] *schestowitz (~schestowi@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [21:17] DaemonFC And I admit that if anything, you know, I never thought about black people until I moved to Chicago. [21:18] DaemonFC And so if I was maybe a 2 or a 3 on a 10 point aversion scale, that brought me up to like an 8 or a 9. [21:18] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [21:18] DaemonFC Because it went from being "Oh that's just Fox News making noise, talking nonsense, no way it's that bad HOLY SHIT!" [21:19] DaemonFC And then black people don't like anyone else that much because the corrupt media has taught them they should feel no shame or embarrassment for what goes on and that they shouldn't be expected to pull their weight and that they're all victims of some centuries old conspiracy. [21:20] DaemonFC So they hate white people, they really know not why, and they use it as a pretext for whatever they want to do. [21:20] schestowitz This is funny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM [21:20] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4nQoRH3vRFM [21:20] TR Bot yewtu.be | Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give Up My Destiny (Lovelyz Mashup) - Invidious [21:20] DaemonFC So the media has been incredibly corrosive because if it didn't gloss over, like, everything George Floyd did to bring the situation about, and it went right to what the police did. [21:20] DaemonFC Which mind you, is not always right either. [21:21] DaemonFC Then people see that shit and they go and burn and loot and raise hell, against people who have had no part in making their lives bad. [21:21] TR News Gulag might even care ABOUT REAL SECURITY.... one day https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/08/google_buys_mandiant_5_4bn_dollars/ [21:21] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/08/google_buys_mandiant_5_4bn_dollars/ [21:21] TR Bot Google to buy Mandiant in $5bn+ deal The Register [21:21] DaemonFC Against each other, even. Figure that shit out. [21:21] DaemonFC The "against each other" part should let you in on something. [21:22] DaemonFC At that point, it's not even remotely about "white people" at all. [21:22] TR News LOL. A bubble like never before? Who fabricates these numbers??? https://www.fastcompany.com/90721894/canva-design-platform-most-innovative-companies [21:22] Alternative link Cloudflare: fastcompany.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fastcompany.com/90721894/canva-design-platform-most-innovative-companies [21:22] TR Bot The rise of Canva, the $40 billion design juggernaut [21:22] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [21:22] perfector more flodding? [21:22] perfector with racial xrap? [21:22] DaemonFC And the fake news like NBC, NPR, CNN, they have people who obey the law, who are victims of criminals, against the police, so the police pull out and the crime gets worse. [21:23] perfector DaemonFC: whyy dont you take your gun and go fight in ucrania [21:23] DaemonFC Cleese was talking race relations and how bad they were in most of the world. [21:23] perfector maybe you sotp flooding this channel with crap [21:23] DaemonFC It occurs to me frequently that people who have never had to live here and put up with it and witness anything seem to know all of the answers. [21:23] perfector stop the copy pasting [21:24] DaemonFC "Hurry up and fix the world while you still know everything!" [21:25] DaemonFC Monty Python wouldn't fly today. [21:25] DaemonFC The parts that make it funny. [21:25] DaemonFC And it's the same reason why Married With Children could never come back with scripts like that. [21:25] TR News This is a lie: "Microsoft has gone out of its way to bolster the Windows 10 system against attack and compromise" https://www.techtarget.com/searchenterprisedesktop/tip/Key-native-features-for-Windows-10-security-and-maintenance No, they add back doors: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA [21:25] Alternative link Cloudflare: techtarget.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techtarget.com/searchenterprisedesktop/tip/Key-native-features-for-Windows-10-security-and-maintenance [21:25] TR Bot Key native features for Windows 10 security and maintenance [21:25] TR Bot Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [21:25] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@kimbxir39p8m4.irc) has joined #techrights [21:25] DaemonFC mjg59_ would see a fat woman that Al Bundy was making fun of or a man in a dress in the Galaxy Song clip and he'd have an infarction. [21:26] *bnchs__ has quit (connection closed) [21:26] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@qb9dgawqwemwq.irc) has joined #techrights [21:26] TR News The espionage family is trying openwashing now. Yes, we spy on the planet, but open open something https://cziscience.medium.com/growing-our-support-for-scientific-open-source-e71d692e7772 [21:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: medium.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://cziscience.medium.com/growing-our-support-for-scientific-open-source-e71d692e7772 [21:26] TR Bot Growing Our Support for Scientific Open Source | by Chan Zuckerberg Initiative Science | Mar, 2022 | Medium [21:27] DaemonFC Then he'd probably start a petition nobody really cares about on Microsoft GitHub, except it would work this time because when 0.5% of people who are just dicks with no sense of humor get mad about something, they puff themselves up to look like an army of internet trolls. [21:27] bnchs__ i mean proprietary source code actually ruin free software implementation of that software that got leaked [21:27] DaemonFC And so they extract concessions, and then the concessions cause the brand to lose customers who actually pay to watch it. [21:27] bnchs__ since there's gonna be more legal checks [21:27] bnchs__ and probably lawsuit-happy with code that looks very similar to their code [21:28] perfector "leaked" [21:28] bnchs__ yes "leaked" [21:28] bnchs__ they do this to sabotage the legality of the software [21:28] DaemonFC After Disney was compelled to fire Gina Carano over her unrelated Twitter account, Disney+ new subscriptions (net) stopped and then fell. [21:28] perfector iys markting also [21:28] DaemonFC And now they think that some cheap tier that bothers people with a lot of ads will make up for that. [21:29] DaemonFC And they don't realize that this is all in line with "Go woke, go broke.". [21:29] DaemonFC Coca Cola did the same thing. They said they didn't want any money from white people. [21:30] DaemonFC Now you can barely sell it in the state they're headquartered in. [21:30] AdmFubar1 people don't want to but overpriced sugar water anymore that is the reason [21:31] AdmFubar1 go look at there other product sales [21:31] DaemonFC MinceR, 3:51 Two Men and a Truck [21:31] DaemonFC Some lady tracked them with an Airtag and proved that they were a few miles from her house when they said they were several states away and that's what was taking her furniture so long. [21:32] DaemonFC people don't want to but overpriced sugar water anymore that is the reason [21:32] DaemonFC Mexicans buy a ton of it. [21:32] DaemonFC Mandy was showing me a video of a woman practicing some sort of witchcraft with dead chickens and Coca Cola to cure some dude's cancer. [21:32] bnchs__ i thought it was chad zuckerburg [21:33] bnchs__ but no it's chan zuckerberg [21:33] psydroid2 I think I've just permanently switched from KDE Plasma to MATE on this laptop too [21:33] psydroid2 and things feel so much faster [21:33] bnchs__ i still use xfce [21:38] *psydroid9 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:38] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [21:39] *psydroid9 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [21:39] *psydroid8 has quit (connection closed) [21:40] TR News Blame HEY HI HEY HI. No algorithms. Not programmings. Not companies... It's thhhhheee Heeeeeey Aiiiiiiii https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/driverless_car_first_chinese_company/ [21:40] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/driverless_car_first_chinese_company/ [21:40] TR Bot Driverless car first: Chinese biz recalls faulty AI The Register [21:41] TR News "your mom dies in a car accident? it's the hey hi, real sorry, lol..." [21:42] TR News Windows TCO https://videocardz.com/newz/stolen-nvidia-certificates-are-now-used-to-sign-malware [21:42] Alternative link Cloudflare: videocardz.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://videocardz.com/newz/stolen-nvidia-certificates-are-now-used-to-sign-malware [21:42] TR Bot NVIDIA certificates are now used to sign malware - VideoCardz.com [21:42] DaemonFC 6:01 I'll be that buffs right out. MinceR [21:42] bnchs__ lol stolen nvidia keys are used to sign malware [21:43] bnchs__ i like how windows doesn't warn you when the drivers a program is trying to install is signed [21:43] MinceR but code signing was supposed to save us from all malware! [21:43] TR News "a decade since Google released Android 3.0 Honeycomb, the first version of the companys mobile operating system specifically designed for tablets." https://liliputing.com/2022/03/lilbits-google-is-taking-android-tablets-seriously-again-elementary-os-troubles-and-more-about-apples-m1-ultra.html [21:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: liliputing.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://liliputing.com/2022/03/lilbits-google-is-taking-android-tablets-seriously-again-elementary-os-troubles-and-more-about-apples-m1-ultra.html [21:43] TR Bot Google is taking Android tablets seriously (again), Elementary OS troubles, and more about Apple's M1 Ultra - Liliputing [21:43] schestowitz-TR2 MinceR: adjust the hey hi a little [21:44] MinceR lol [21:44] DaemonFC 6:31 The funniest thing so far, actually. [21:44] schestowitz-TR2 "heuristics" [21:44] DaemonFC They destroy the bridge and the stop sign. [21:44] bnchs__ the AI can speed up internet speed [21:44] bnchs__ the AI can do everything [21:44] bnchs__ self-driving car crashes itself to a tree? [21:44] bnchs__ no that's the AI man [21:45] TR News Slower production? Good. For the planet, too. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/ukraine_neon_supplies/ [21:45] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/ukraine_neon_supplies/ [21:45] TR Bot Chip world's major suppliers of neon gas shutter in Ukraine The Register [21:45] DaemonFC 6:43 "Captain's Log: USS Enterprise OOOFFFFFFF" [21:45] TR News Gartner is a lie firm. Stop propping up frauds and liars. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/gartner_only_29pc_of_it/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group [21:45] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/gartner_only_29pc_of_it/ [21:45] TR Bot 2 out of 3 IT staffers plan to switch from current work The Register [21:45] TR Bot Gartner Group - Techrights [21:46] DaemonFC I like how whatever happens in a city, black people jsut keep walking and don't even look at it. [21:46] DaemonFC "After a while, nothing bothers you anymore." [21:46] TR News The CA 'cartels' or pyramid scheme revealed for what it is... or was all along https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/russian_ca/ [21:46] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/russian_ca/ [21:46] TR Bot Moscow to issue TLS certificates to Russian websites The Register [21:46] bnchs__ what makes you think only black people just keep walking [21:48] TR News Of course Microsoft ("you may remember me from Microsoft loves Linux and Ukraine loves Putin") will deny a port to GNU/Linux https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/quake-remastered-5-reasons-revisit-quarter-century-old-fps-masterpiece [21:48] TR Bot Quake Remastered: 5 reasons to revisit this quarter-century-old FPS masterpiece [21:48] bnchs__ you know who will also deny a port to GNU/Linux, epig gaymes [21:48] schestowitz-TR2 bnchs__: he is just openly racist [21:48] schestowitz-TR2 bnchs__: who runs epig games? [21:48] bnchs__ tim swine-e [21:49] MinceR e-pig games [21:49] schestowitz-TR2 oinkay, I get it [21:49] perfector forthnight already runs on linux [21:49] TR News Wall Street DESPERATE for "external devil" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/10/opinion/putin-ukraine-russia-usa.html [21:49] Alternative link Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/10/opinion/putin-ukraine-russia-usa.html [21:49] TR Bot Opinion | Americas Right Has a Putin Problem - The New York Times [21:49] perfector android/linux [21:50] bnchs__ perfector, yes but he won't port to GNU/Linux [21:50] bnchs__ because anti-cheats and maybe some microsoft bias [21:50] TR News No, JavaScript is not a community. There's plenty of evidence of that. https://thenewstack.io/debate-in-javascript-community-over-proposed-types-syntax/ [21:50] Alternative link Cloudflare: thenewstack.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thenewstack.io/debate-in-javascript-community-over-proposed-types-syntax/ [21:50] TR Bot Debate in JavaScript Community Over Proposed Types Syntax The New Stack [21:50] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmqoFEDbOHw [21:50] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=SmqoFEDbOHw [21:50] TR Bot ( status 500 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=SmqoFEDbOHw ) [21:50] DaemonFC They can ban you from game shows for doing too well. [21:50] DaemonFC Nice. [21:51] bnchs__ " The uploader has not made this video available in your country " [21:51] bnchs__ youtube regionlocked it [21:51] perfector " The uploader has not made this video available in your country " [21:51] TR News I'm sure Huawei would protest a lot if/when China physically invades Taiwan with tanks https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/huawei_uk_board_members_resign/ [21:51] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/huawei_uk_board_members_resign/ [21:51] TR Bot Huawei UK board members resign over Ukraine stance The Register [21:52] bnchs__ i'm pretty sure it's a US only thing [21:52] bnchs__ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=SmqoFEDbOHw [21:52] TR Bot This Math Genius Was Banned From 'The Price Is Right' (Superhuman Documentary) | Real Stories - Invidious [21:52] perfector isnt there a nitter thing for youtube? [21:52] bnchs__ yes it's invidious [21:53] TR News What's with this picture? https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/opinion/north-carolina-pennsylvania-gerrymandering.html [21:53] Alternative link Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/opinion/north-carolina-pennsylvania-gerrymandering.html [21:53] TR Bot Opinion | The Supreme Court Did the Right Thing. Im Still Worried. - The New York Times [21:55] TR News As if Russia suffers from this. Well, this does come to shown 'clown' computing is a suicide cult. https://www.insideimaging.com.au/2022/photo-industry-sanctions-russia/ [21:55] TR Bot Photo industry sanctions Russia - Inside Imaging [21:56] TR News "Runa Sandvik, who has previously helped journalists secure their devices and data at The New York Times, Freedom of the Press Foundation and the Tor Project, recently discussed her work on the Decipher Podcast. This is a condensed and edited version of the conversation." https://duo.com/decipher/q-and-a-runa-sandvik [21:56] Alternative link Cloudflare: duo.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://duo.com/decipher/q-and-a-runa-sandvik [21:56] TR Bot Q&A: Runa Sandvik | Decipher [21:57] schestowitz [21:52] yes it's invidious [21:57] schestowitz we need one for s**t hub [21:57] *techrights_guest|65 (~5b06bd14@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [21:57] bnchs__ there's already mirrors like [21:57] bnchs__ mirror for github issues [21:57] bnchs__ mirror for github wiki [21:58] schestowitz-TR2 url? [21:58] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 52.40 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.45 [21:59] bnchs__ https://github.com/ikkentim/WikiClone [21:59] TR Bot - ikkentim/WikiClone: Mirror your GitHub wiki with ease. [21:59] schestowitz-TR2 lol!! [21:59] schestowitz-TR2 hosted on github [21:59] bnchs__ yes ironic [21:59] schestowitz-TR2 recursive humour ensues [21:59] schestowitz-TR2 what happens if I report an issue to them in github? ● Mar 12 [22:00] bnchs__ it's also years dead [22:00] schestowitz-TR2 error: replication exhuasted. Disk space not availabke. [22:00] DaemonFC Twinings Earl Grey is really disappointing. [22:00] schestowitz-TR2 yeah [22:00] schestowitz-TR2 it sucks [22:00] DaemonFC Bigelow (an American brand) is much stronger than that. [22:00] DaemonFC 2/3rds the price too. [22:01] DaemonFC I kept finding myself using two teabags per cup with Twinings, which makes it more expensive still. [22:02] TR News Does not say which OS is impacted. Too value, maybe intentionally. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/canadian_netwalker_ransomware_extradited_america/ [22:02] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/canadian_netwalker_ransomware_extradited_america/ [22:02] TR Bot Canadian extradited to US on NetWalker ransomware charges The Register [22:02] TR News Does not say which OS is impacted. Too vague, maybe intentionally. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/canadian_netwalker_ransomware_extradited_america/ [22:02] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/canadian_netwalker_ransomware_extradited_america/ [22:02] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162482 [22:02] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [22:02] TR News Wait, this is what the US wanted when it sought to expand NATO to the border of Russia https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/opinion/nato-russia-the-west-ukraine.html [22:02] Alternative link Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/11/opinion/nato-russia-the-west-ukraine.html [22:02] TR Bot Opinion | Putin Wants a Clash of Civilizations. Is The West Falling for It? - The New York Times [22:04] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:04] TR News Some of these run natively on GNU/Linux, the rest can use WINE https://gameranx.com/features/id/292103/article/best-city-builder-games-you-cant-afford-to-miss/ [22:04] Alternative link Cloudflare: gameranx.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gameranx.com/features/id/292103/article/best-city-builder-games-you-cant-afford-to-miss/ [22:04] TR Bot Best City Builder Games You Cant Afford To Miss - Gameranx [22:05] TR News It should say lay OFF. Notice how they spin bad news as "GROWTH" ... in a PAID-FOR "press" [lie] "release" https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220310006035/en/ATT-Lays-Out-Growth-Strategy-for-Company-Following-Pending-Close-of-WarnerMedia-Transaction [22:05] Alternative link Cloudflare: businesswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220310006035/en/ATT-Lays-Out-Growth-Strategy-for-Company-Following-Pending-Close-of-WarnerMedia-Transaction [22:05] TR Bot AT&T Lays Out Growth Strategy for Company Following Pending Close of WarnerMedia Transaction | Business Wire [22:06] TR News OK, so the criminals from Microsoft needs to bribe Jim Zemlin and his corrupt friends some more to help with the greenwashing lies https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/10/business/microsoft-climate-carbon-emissions.html see http://techrights.org/2021/11/09/linux-foundation-greenwash/ [22:06] Alternative link Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/10/business/microsoft-climate-carbon-emissions.html [22:06] TR Bot Microsofts Pursuit of Climate Goals Runs Into Headwinds - The New York Times [22:06] TR Bot Linux Foundation Has Become Even Worse Than Climate Science Deniers | Techrights [22:07] immibis https://lwn.net/Articles/884876/ intel, just like all other publicly traded companies, will make you pay extra to unlock features you already bought [22:07] TR Bot on software-defined silicon [LWN.net] [22:07] schestowitz-TR2 why not? [22:07] DaemonFC Picard says "What the hell is this!?" and the android says "Colombian Roast, black", and Picard says "This truly is the circle Dante didn't mention.". [22:07] schestowitz-TR2 tiered customer experiences [22:07] MinceR (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/cjAo3m5.mp4 [22:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/cjAo3m5.mp4 [22:07] DaemonFC Colombian Roast is goo, it's expensive. [22:07] schestowitz-TR2 remember 7 editions of Vista? [22:08] DaemonFC I would never drink it black though. [22:08] schestowitz-TR2 "no wallpaper changes for you!!" [22:08] DaemonFC *good [22:08] schestowitz-TR2 goo AND good [22:08] DaemonFC :/ [22:08] immibis DaemonFC: oh you're back. You never explained what makes a constitution legitimate [22:08] DaemonFC Passed with the consent of the governed for starters. [22:09] bnchs__ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=uNt_ReLwk40 [22:09] TR Bot I installed Windows on Steam Deck and I regret it - Invidious [22:09] DaemonFC I've voted on some (state) constitutional amendments. One of them passed, the other didn't. [22:09] bnchs__ i don't get linus [22:09] DaemonFC There's another one coming up. [22:09] immibis To summarize the previous conversation: (1) DaemonFC thinks that if you break a law and get the punishment defined by law then you deserve it (2) I think laws can be unjust and deliver undeserved punishments. What about Hitler making a law saying Jews must be gassed? (3) DaemonFC says that would be an illegitimate law because it would be against the constitution. (4) We now argue about constitutions [22:09] bnchs__ >installs windows on a device made for GNU/Linux [22:09] bnchs__ >gets surprised when it doesn't work [22:10] MinceR it's made for systemd/Linux, sadly [22:10] bnchs__ this is the same guy who managed to brick gnu/linux by installing steam (with TONS of package conflicts) and not reading the terminal [22:10] TR News How much do IBM and Red Hat pay the NC media to spread these lies and corporate propaganda? This isn't journalism, it's just embarrassing https://wraltechwire.com/2022/03/11/ibm-ceo-hails-big-blue-progress-we-dont-just-create-business-value-we-create-progress/ "IBM has defined a clear strategy to lead in the era of hybrid cloud and AI." HEY! Hi! Tell me more! [22:10] TR Bot IBM CEO hails Big Blue progress: We dont just create business value; we create progress | WRAL TechWire [22:11] DaemonFC Hmm, watching Pawn Stars. [22:11] MinceR oh, linus sebastian? lol [22:11] DaemonFC Guy has a 1984 Olympic boxing ticket. [22:11] bnchs__ yes linus sebastian [22:11] MinceR the illiterate dumbass who can't tell the difference between blocking ads and violating copyright [22:11] psydroid2 linus windows shill? [22:12] TR News They've taken the mask off. US tech companies are just extensions of military/imperialism/hegemony, disguised thinly... as "neutral" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-11/tech-walls-off-russia-like-never-before-posing-new-risks-for-u-s [22:12] TR Bot - Are you a robot? [22:12] bnchs__ his game-addicted brain can't read the terminal [22:12] DaemonFC That was the one the Soviet Union boycotted. [22:12] bnchs__ so he blames it on the OS [22:12] MinceR (or maybe robbery at sea, it isn't that clear, and it's stupid either way) [22:12] DaemonFC McDonalds ended up losing a LOT of money. [22:12] immibis DaemonFC: So if a nazi dictator writes a constitution saying "I am the dictator for life. This constitution cannot be altered. Also kill the Jews" and the majority of people vote in favour of that constitution, it's legitimate? What counts as consent of the governed? [22:13] DaemonFC They said "When the US wins a gold medal, you win food." and the categories were always things the Soviets were expected to do well in. [22:13] immibis "imperialism is when you refuse to do business with nazis, which you can't do anyway because the banking system is cut off" [22:13] DaemonFC So when the boycott happened, the US won a bunch of gold medals and McDonalds ended up spending several times as much as they thought they would. [22:13] TR News "Profit motivations come a distant second, as least for now." Clownflare admits it! We're trying to take control of you, we'll screw you and milk you after we've closed our grip/fist around your neck. Pay attention, Mozilla, stop working for Empire. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/cloudflare_disrupt/ [22:13] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/cloudflare_disrupt/ [22:13] TR Bot Cloudflare: More focused on growing userbase than profits The Register [22:13] bnchs__ immibis, man chill down on the mental gyms [22:16] TR News Sonatype still singing its sonata for Microsoft and other companies which actively undermine real security https://www.computerweekly.com/blog/Open-Source-Insider/Sonatypes-sonar-smart-sonata-for-open-source [22:16] Alternative link Cloudflare: computerweekly.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.computerweekly.com/blog/Open-Source-Insider/Sonatypes-sonar-smart-sonata-for-open-source [22:16] TR Bot Sonatypes sonar-smart sonata for open source - Open Source Insider [22:17] TR News Internet is being destroyed https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/lumen_quits_russia/ see http://techrights.org/2022/03/09/breaking-internet/ [22:17] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/lumen_quits_russia/ [22:17] TR Bot Internet backbone provider Lumen quits Russia The Register [22:17] TR Bot The Internet is Breaking and We Need Contingencies | Techrights [22:18] bnchs__ lumen is not the internet [22:20] TR News It looks like Microsoft Tim nearly left or was marginalised by The Register. I hope the latter. Microsoft boosting there decreased a slight bit this year. They even hired Liam to focus on GNU/Linux news. [22:20] bnchs__ lol good [22:21] TR News Should move to GNU/Linux. Those problems don't exist there. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/769648/lost-activation-status-now-in-trial-mode-pro-x64-bit/ [22:21] Alternative link Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/769648/lost-activation-status-now-in-trial-mode-pro-x64-bit/ [22:21] TR Bot lost activation status-now in trial mode-Pro x64 bit - Windows 7 [22:21] schestowitz-TR2 bnchs__: yes, crazy [22:22] schestowitz-TR2 they think they help [22:22] schestowitz-TR2 ex-ICANN CEO wanted to sanction Russia [22:22] schestowitz-TR2 the current ICANN chief is not that foolisha [22:22] schestowitz-TR2 Biden too was cautioned not to do it [22:22] bnchs__ yes [22:22] schestowitz-TR2 they try to pull kill switzhes now [22:22] bnchs__ they all wanna gang up against russia [22:22] schestowitz-TR2 yeah, shut the whole thing down [22:22] schestowitz-TR2 reopen old banks [22:22] schestowitz-TR2 maybe we'll get places [22:22] bnchs__ they don't give a shit about the innocent civilians there [22:22] schestowitz-TR2 bnchs__: not just Russia [22:22] bnchs__ or anti-war activists there [22:22] immibis why is everyone like "refusing to do business with nazis makes you a nazi" [22:23] schestowitz-TR2 they set dangerous precedence [22:23] schestowitz-TR2 of US as world bully [22:23] schestowitz-TR2 blackmailing any nation using Internet levers [22:23] bnchs__ immibis, a what??? [22:23] immibis bnchs__: russia = nazis [22:23] immibis (the government, anyway) [22:23] bnchs__ yes [22:23] bnchs__ the russian government is bad [22:23] schestowitz-TR2 those sanctions are not always misplaced [22:23] schestowitz-TR2 but usually are [22:23] bnchs__ but the civilians there are good [22:23] MinceR https://nitter.eu/i/status/1502572362667020288 [22:23] TR Bot Oryx (@oryxspioenkop): "" | nitter [22:24] bnchs__ and anti-war activists there [22:24] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/donetsk-and-gulag-or-google-now-bans-parts-of-ukraine-for-being-invaded-by-russia/ [22:24] TR Bot When Sanctions Go Toxic: Google, Co-Founded by Moscovite, Agrees With Moscow and Recognises Mariupol (Ukraine) as a Part of Russia | Techrights [22:24] bnchs__ the problem is that the sanctions end up blocking the civilians [22:24] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [22:24] bnchs__ and not helping the situation [22:24] immibis these things only work on country-level granularity [22:24] schestowitz-TR2 Russian oligarchs usually don't even live in Russia [22:24] immibis like, Putin stole all the foreign currency of Russian citizens from their bank accounts. [22:24] immibis That means any foreign currency that goes to Russia goes to Putin [22:25] bnchs__ there's still people in russia [22:25] bnchs__ you can't just lock them all up with putin [22:25] immibis I agree some things make no sense to cut off [22:25] bnchs__ like a pedo in a school [22:25] TR News still very, very early in development (about 55% complete), and as such, lack of polish, and game-breaking bugs are to be expected. https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2022/03/11/aim-lab-valorant-king-george-r6/ [22:25] Alternative link Cloudflare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2022/03/11/aim-lab-valorant-king-george-r6/ [22:25] immibis in fact a lot of things make no sense to cut off. [22:25] TR Bot From TenZs Twitch to healthcare, Aim Lab wants to do it all - The Washington Post [22:26] TR News MIT pushing HEY HI nonsense https://sloanreview.mit.edu/audio/extreme-innovation-with-ai-stanley-black-deckers-mark-maybury/ while covering up for pedophiles: http://techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/ [22:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: mit.edu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://sloanreview.mit.edu/audio/extreme-innovation-with-ai-stanley-black-deckers-mark-maybury/ [22:26] TR Bot Extreme Innovation With AI: Stanley Black & Deckers Mark Maybury [22:26] TR Bot Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales (MIT) Covers Up Bill Gates Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself | Techrights [22:27] TR News It means not approved by US Empire https://themarkup.org/ask-the-markup/2022/03/08/what-does-the-connection-not-private-warning-really-mean [22:27] TR Bot What Does the Connection Not Private Warning Really Mean? The Markup [22:27] immibis there are plenty of non-US certificate authorities [22:27] immibis doesn't the chinese government have one? also the russian government? [22:27] bnchs__ CAs are monopolies [22:27] TR News Comcast pushing DRM https://www.engadget.com/apple-tv-plus-comcast-xfinity-x1-flex-xclass-tv-161729218.html [22:27] TR Bot TV+ is now available on Comcast Xfinity | Engadget [22:27] immibis how can CAs be monopolies if there are like 500 of them? [22:27] schestowitz-TR2 immibis: no [22:27] schestowitz-TR2 check the settings [22:28] schestowitz-TR2 on most systems and browsers [22:28] SomeH4x0r HSTS [22:28] SomeH4x0r not letting you bypass [22:28] schestowitz-TR2 you are limited to about 300 CAs [22:28] SomeH4x0r fucking censorship [22:28] schestowitz-TR2 that number decreases all the time [22:28] SomeH4x0r then they will preload it for more and more TLDs [22:28] bnchs__ you can't make self-signed cert [22:28] schestowitz-TR2 And Microsoft Zemlin is monopolising that more and more [22:28] bnchs__ because the browser won't work with that [22:28] immibis bnchs__: I also can't make an x86 CPU [22:28] SomeH4x0r while speaking of "security" [22:28] bnchs__ immibis, ok how is that related [22:28] SomeH4x0r they will establish censorship [22:28] immibis not being able to make something yourself doesn't mean it's a monopoly [22:29] bnchs__ no [22:29] bnchs__ CAs have rules [22:29] schestowitz-TR2 what happaned in Ukraine vidicated [22:29] schestowitz-TR2 us [22:29] bnchs__ in fact they're the only way to have HTTPS [22:29] immibis firefox has an option to disable HSTS [22:29] schestowitz-TR2 and others [22:29] bnchs__ except self signed certs [22:29] bnchs__ anything bad, they can revoke your cert [22:29] immibis firefox also has the ability to load your own CAs [22:29] schestowitz-TR2 because we've long warned about the CAs pyramic scheme becoming more about control and censorship [22:29] bnchs__ revoke the CA signature of your cert* [22:29] schestowitz-TR2 it's hardly about real security [22:29] schestowitz-TR2 TOFC [22:30] immibis the ideal CA is just a mirror of DNS. In fact it would be integrated with DNS. Is DNS control and censorship? [22:30] immibis yes, DNS is about control and censorship [22:30] immibis because it's centralized [22:30] bnchs__ DNS can be hijacke [22:30] TR News Didn't Mozille peddle this trash until Mozilla's own founder BLASTED the company for it? https://www.business2community.com/cryptocurrency/dogecoin-price-prediction [22:30] Alternative link Cloudflare: business2community.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.business2community.com/cryptocurrency/dogecoin-price-prediction [22:30] TR Bot Dogecoin Price Prediction 2022-2025 - How High Will DOGE Reach? [22:31] immibis bnchs__: when they fix it, that will increase control and censorship of DNS. [22:31] schestowitz-TR2 immibis: DNS is also prooblematic [22:31] schestowitz-TR2 some people work to replace or bypass DNS [22:31] schestowitz-TR2 inc. IPFS [22:31] schestowitz-TR2 IPNS exists already [22:31] SomeH4x0r immibis: how do I disable HSTS in Firefox actually? [22:31] immibis IPNS does not replace DNS. It solves a different problem. [22:31] SomeH4x0r I know I can disable preloaded HSTS [22:32] SomeH4x0r but how about HSTS in general? [22:32] TR News "patent licensing compulsory" as in "screw patents", we ignore this monopolistic crap https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/08/russia_software_piracy/ [22:32] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/08/russia_software_piracy/ [22:32] TR Bot Russia mulls making software piracy legal The Register [22:32] immibis SomeH4x0r: huh. Actually I just read the headline and that page was about something else [22:33] TR News Wait, this is GULAG... which PAID 40 million to a manager who was getting blow jobs from subordinates. PAID HIM! And now they pretend to care for women????? https://www.valdostadailytimes.com/news/business/google-s-jigsaw-unit-open-sources-code-for-harassment-manager-tool-in-partnership-with-twitter/article_f224d3b9-aa83-5ebc-aef8-6baa58273ca5.html [22:33] TR Bot Jigsaw Unit Open Sources Code for Harassment Manager Tool in Partnership with Twitter, Thomson Reuters Foundation | Business | valdostadailytimes.com [22:33] DaemonFC like a pedo in a school [22:33] DaemonFC Hot for teacher. [22:34] immibis SomeH4x0r: you can always patch it yourself. open source [22:35] TR News Remember, kids!!!! First one's free! That first one becomes half. And then it's not free at all https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/07/amazon_cuts_credit_for_charities/ [22:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/07/amazon_cuts_credit_for_charities/ [22:35] TR Bot Amazon cut our web services credits, say non-profits The Register [22:35] immibis i bet there's a fork out there that lets you disable it [22:36] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/revil_suspect_ukrainian_arraigned_us_court/ [22:36] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/revil_suspect_ukrainian_arraigned_us_court/ [22:36] TR Bot REvil suspect extradited to US, arraigned The Register [22:36] bnchs__ immibis, so what you're saying [22:36] *AdmFubar1 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:36] bnchs__ is that we should accept CAs [22:36] bnchs__ because we already have DNS [22:37] TR News Security for buzzwords ;-) https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/03/08/oems-iot-security/ [22:37] TR Bot 5 steps that simplify IoT security for OEMs - Help Net Security [22:38] TR News If it's GPL, Russia laughs, forks, and stops paying them https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/red_hat_suse_russia/ [22:38] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/red_hat_suse_russia/ [22:38] TR Bot Red Hat, SUSE suspend sales in Russia The Register [22:39] TR News They very recently ported to GNU/Linux https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/spec_developing_benchmarks_for_ml/ [22:39] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/spec_developing_benchmarks_for_ml/ [22:39] TR Bot SPEC developing benchmarks for ML processing performance The Register [22:40] TR News Does the pope poop in the woods ;-) ? https://news.trust.org/item/20220304092506-aky0c [22:40] TR Bot Pandemic surveillance: is tracing tech here to stay? [22:41] TR News Contact tracing predates COVID-19. In 2020 it was formalised and normalised. They even said that all this data collection was for your safety/protection/security. Disagree? Then you're a filthy dangerous conspiracy buff/crank. [22:42] immibis bnchs__: no, I'm saying DNS is a tool for censorship and control [22:42] TR News Oracle wants to become "too big to fail" by stealing everyone's medical data. Don't let them do it. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/oracle/ really awful company with notorious CIA roots. http://techrights.org/wiki/Oracle [22:42] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/oracle/ [22:42] TR Bot Oracle reveals plans for healthcare amid Q3 results The Register [22:42] TR Bot Oracle - Techrights [22:42] bnchs__ yes but how does this possibly related to CA [22:43] TR News Literacy? A lot of today's "tech"... e.g. social control media, actively LOWERS literacy and harms comprehension skills https://www.streetinsider.com/PRNewswire/SXSW+EDU+Panelists+Discuss+the+Role+of+Technology+in+Addressing+Low+Literacy/19758790.html [22:43] TR Bot SXSW EDU Panelists Discuss the Role of Technology in Addressing Low Literacy [22:44] immibis bnchs__: there's bigger things to worry about, like DNS [22:45] TR News Companies testing their OWN products, find "diagnostic accuracy of 98.5 per cent". https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-03-field-based-patient-trial-cell-free-zika.html one year ago companies told us their vaccines were 96% effective, after just a few months of self-testing and no long-term clinical trials [22:45] TR Bot Field-based patient trial for cell-free Zika testing delivers highly accurate results [22:46] bnchs__ immibis: yes but that's a problem we can tackle later [22:46] *AdmFubar1 (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [22:46] TR News Meanwhile, government propaganda organ BillBC (bribed by Bill Gates to lie to us and sell stuff of his, though we are also forced to pay this organ) admits that in spite of 92% of the adult population in the UK being "vaccinated" COVID-19 is surging again [22:47] TR News This is not a gendered issue, no need to interject identity politics into it https://fortune.com/2022/03/10/female-entrepreneurs-not-paying-themselves-as-they-launch-businesses/ [22:47] Alternative link Cloudflare: fortune.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://fortune.com/2022/03/10/female-entrepreneurs-not-paying-themselves-as-they-launch-businesses/ [22:47] TR Bot entrepreneurs arent paying themselves as they launch their businesses | Fortune [22:47] XRevan86 https://protocol.com/bulletins/google-duckduckgo-brave-russia-ukraine "The move follows DuckDuckGo halting its partnership with Russian search engine Yandex on March 1." <- Now that I expected. [22:48] TR Bot down-ranks Russian misinformation - Protocol [22:48] immibis bnchs__: why are you more upset about CAs (of which there are ~300) than DNS systems (of which there is 1)? [22:48] TR News IBM/Red Hat pay this publisher now; so puff piece come out https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/ibm_redhat_strategy/ IBM is sucking the life out of Red Hat, FAST http://techrights.org/2021/08/21/ibm-layoffs-in-marketing/ [22:48] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/ibm_redhat_strategy/ [22:48] TR Bot The long-term strategy behind IBM's Red Hat purchase The Register [22:48] TR Bot Many IBM Layoffs (in Marketing), But the Media Is Not Mentioning Those Layoffs At All | Techrights [22:49] bnchs__ because i don't want to talk to CAs? [22:49] bnchs__ because i don't wanna pay for their possibly insecure certs [22:49] schestowitz-TR2 the CAs are interconnected [22:49] schestowitz-TR2 a teare ago LF killed off one [22:49] schestowitz-TR2 causing a ripple effect [22:49] schestowitz-TR2 and many devices could no longer access much of the web [22:49] schestowitz-TR2 that's why it's like a cartel [22:49] schestowitz-TR2 or pyramic scheme [22:50] schestowitz-TR2 selling you a bunch of bits everyx months [22:50] schestowitz-TR2 *x months [22:50] schestowitz-TR2 to "join the club" [22:50] schestowitz-TR2 and gain "approvability" [22:50] schestowitz-TR2 from a CA MLM [22:50] schestowitz-TR2 chains [22:50] schestowitz-TR2 chain of (anti\)trust [22:50] immibis bnchs__: also you know gulagzilla already tackled this problem and invented a free one, right? And if that goes away, we will just stop encrypting website connections. [22:51] immibis and the NSA will be happy [22:51] schestowitz-TR2 no [22:51] schestowitz-TR2 straw man [22:51] schestowitz-TR2 you can encrypt [22:51] bnchs__ immibis, stop it man [22:51] schestowitz-TR2 but strust on first contact [22:51] bnchs__ we can self-sign certs [22:51] schestowitz-TR2 let them self-sign [22:51] bnchs__ it's not CA or nothing [22:51] bnchs__ self-signing exists [22:51] schestowitz-TR2 Gulag CHROME and its clone don't give that option [22:51] schestowitz-TR2 Mozilla is just a tentacle of Gulag, i.e. Pentagon [22:52] schestowitz-TR2 with Baker killing off what's left of Mozilla, a token for peetending the Web is still "open" [22:52] schestowitz-TR2 as long as you can develop gecko in some basement, which you cannot [22:52] immibis schestowitz-TR2: yes but web standards are fucked because gulag has a monopoly on the web. gulag controls the web. 100%. [22:52] schestowitz-TR2 not 100% [22:52] *techrights_guest|65 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:52] schestowitz-TR2 but close [22:52] schestowitz-TR2 similar to the search market [22:53] schestowitz-TR2 now it's like a bicycle shop [22:53] schestowitz-TR2 you can get one in pink [22:53] schestowitz-TR2 or in blue [22:53] schestowitz-TR2 or bigger tires [22:53] schestowitz-TR2 but it's about identity [22:53] MinceR there's also one PKI system and it's broken [22:53] schestowitz-TR2 they all have two wheels and usually 18 gears [22:53] schestowitz-TR2 that's the browser market [22:54] TR News Is this journalism? Looks like classic webspam to me. :/ I.e. the usual... https://www.fastcompany.com/90724386/most-innovative-companies-design-2022 [22:54] Alternative link Cloudflare: fastcompany.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fastcompany.com/90724386/most-innovative-companies-design-2022 [22:54] TR Bot The most innovative design companies of 2022 [22:54] immibis schestowitz-TR2: they control 100% of the standards. [22:55] TR News LOL. The tamperer in chief is Mark Zuckerberg, who calls you "dumb fuck" (he did) and said he's "fuck you in the ear" https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/whatsapp_cloudflare_code/ [22:55] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/whatsapp_cloudflare_code/ [22:55] TR Bot WhatsApp extension to detect desktop web app tampering The Register [22:55] immibis bicycles all have 2 wheels because that seems to be a good way to make bicycles. That's not how gulag standards work. [22:56] TR News Airlines are dying, so they try a new approach for improving their image (while they treat passengers like cattle, presuming they're all terrorists and all suitcases are time bombs) https://www.aviationpros.com/airlines/press-release/21259526/jetblue-the-jetblue-foundation-announces-2021-grantees-and-opening-of-next-foundation-granting-cycle [22:56] TR Bot The JetBlue Foundation Announces 2021 Grantees and Opening of Next Foundation Granting Cycle | Aviation Pros [22:56] schestowitz-TR2 immibis: true [22:56] schestowitz-TR2 not a great metaphor [22:57] TR News Crankfest. Posers showing off how much energy they wasted to make something that does not even exist. https://bitcoinmagazine.com/industry-events/the-bitcoin-conference-differences [22:57] Alternative link Cloudflare: bitcoinmagazine.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://bitcoinmagazine.com/industry-events/the-bitcoin-conference-differences [22:57] TR Bot The Bitcoin Conference Differences - Bitcoin Magazine: Bitcoin News, Articles, Charts, and Guides [22:58] TR News "400Gbps and 800Gbps Ethernet networks respectively." Now Bill Gates can get his CP faster, without hiring another Rick Allen Jones. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/spirent_400g_800g_ethernet/ [22:58] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/spirent_400g_800g_ethernet/ [22:58] TR Bot Spirent test kit targets 400 and 800Gbps Ethernet The Register ● Mar 12 [23:00] TR News "the ability to block access poses a threat to the decentralization of the ecosystem." https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/the-promise-of-stateless-ethereum [23:00] Alternative link Cloudflare: nasdaq.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/the-promise-of-stateless-ethereum [23:00] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/1499625802861879296-2048x796.jpg [23:00] Alternative link Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/1499625802861879296-2048x796.jpg [23:00] TR News How do states target decentralised platforms? Easy. Home raids. See what Russia did to Tor node operators... [23:02] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:02] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:03] TR News Openwashing for the most part: "The Eclipse Foundation, which champions open-source software development, has formed a new Software-Defined Vehicle (SDV) working group dedicated to developing a software platform for the automotive industry" https://www.automotivetestingtechnologyinternational.com/news/test-equipment/industry-led-initiative-looks-to-create-open-source-automotive-software-platform.html [23:05] TR News Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols (SJVN) pushing Microsoft talking points. What a truly awful way to end his career. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/where_are_the_russian_cyberattacks/ [23:05] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/where_are_the_russian_cyberattacks/ [23:06] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [23:06] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [23:06] immibis avoiding giving traffic to a reverse proxy used by the website you want to access is really weird [23:06] immibis that is like boycotting all shops that use a particular brand of front door [23:06] immibis because you don't like the doors [23:07] schestowitz-TR2 that's not us [23:07] immibis ... but then using mail order so that a delivery-person has to go into the front door anyway [23:07] schestowitz-TR2 it's decloudflare [23:07] immibis oh I see. different bot [23:07] immibis in a channel /notice, hexchat displays the channel name more prominently than the sender's nick [23:08] TR News Selling people GPUs they don't really need isn't a long-term strategy, esp. with production woes and collapsing economies. They want more vendor lock-in now. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/nvidia_software_services/ [23:08] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/nvidia_software_services/ [23:08] TR Bot Nvidia repositions as a software and services company The Register [23:09] TR News Yeah yeah, they're promises us such computers for at least 25 years. Hype and buzz. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/germany_qsolid_quantum_computing/ [23:09] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/germany_qsolid_quantum_computing/ [23:09] TR Bot Germany bankrolls effort to build home-grown quantum systems The Register [23:09] TR News Yeah yeah, they've promised us such computers for at least 25 years. Hype and buzz. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/germany_qsolid_quantum_computing/ [23:09] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/germany_qsolid_quantum_computing/ [23:09] bnchs__ immibis, what if that door has a camera and a wiretap [23:09] bnchs__ that records your interaction [23:10] MinceR the door is a poor analogy, as doors don't ban Tor and can't force you to enable javascript [23:10] TR News Microsoft proxies https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/infosys_wipro_russia_silence/ Microsoft profiting from Russia by proxy? See http://techrights.org/2022/02/27/microsoft-complicity-russia/ [23:10] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/infosys_wipro_russia_silence/ [23:10] TR Bot Infosys, Wipro silent on Russian operations The Register [23:10] TR Bot [Meme] Microsoft Complicity | Techrights [23:12] TR News Scenes from Ukraine. https://www.pymnts.com/news/international/2022/today-in-the-fintech-ukraine-daily-airbnb-utah-jazz-foundation-team-to-provide-housing-for-ukrainian-refugees-bunq-ceo-debuts-people-for-people-to-aid-ukraine/ [23:12] TR Bot Utah Jazz Team to Provide Refugee Housing | PYMNTS.com [23:12] TR News Paid-for press release trying to paint Twitter and Gulag as allies of women https://www.bakersfield.com/ap/news/google-s-jigsaw-unit-open-sources-code-for-harassment-manager-tool-in-partnership-with-twitter/article_6be80c54-b88d-5aa2-91ab-45de1237cf38.html see http://techrights.org/2022/01/10/twitter-streisand/ [23:12] TR Bot Jigsaw Unit Open Sources Code for Harassment Manager Tool in Partnership with Twitter, Thomson Reuters Foundation | News | bakersfield.com [23:12] TR Bot Twitter is Silencing Victims of Sexual Abuse to Protect Violent Men Who Assault Women (Also: GitHub/Microsoft Employees Too Have Complained About the Perpetrator) | Techrights [23:12] *AdmFubar1 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:14] immibis MinceR: bnchs__: The store owner installed those features on the door [23:14] *AdmFubar1 (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [23:14] bnchs__ immibis, yes but i should not go through it anyway [23:14] bnchs__ thats why i send a mexican to do it for me [23:14] bnchs__ (internet archive) [23:15] immibis and that is just silly [23:15] immibis someone still has to go through the door. The door vendor still makes money [23:15] bnchs__ so? [23:15] immibis and now you are wasting the time of some volunteer [23:15] bnchs__ i'm a tor user [23:15] immibis if you want cloudflare gone, you want it to hurt the owner of the site, not some random volunteer [23:15] bnchs__ and i let internet archive visit the website [23:16] bnchs__ so i don't have to enable javascript [23:16] immibis I see [23:16] MinceR it seems to me that internet archive would store a copy of the site after its first visit [23:16] MinceR so the number of accesses the site and clownflare sees would be reduced [23:16] bnchs__ ok what if the store gave you a giant popup when you go past the door [23:17] bnchs__ because you're merely a tor user [23:18] TR News Proprietary software: "Miscreants have launched massive, amplified distributed denial-of-service attacks by exploiting a vulnerability in Mitel collaboration systems." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/mitel_amplification_ddos_attack/ [23:18] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/mitel_amplification_ddos_attack/ [23:18] TR Bot Mitel VoIP systems used in staggering DDoS attacks The Register [23:20] immibis bnchs__: the store has chosen not to do business with black people^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hsome arbitrary group, and as long as we live in neoliberal capitalism that is their right (just as it is your right to wear whiteface) [23:20] bnchs__ yes [23:20] immibis normally when it's black people, the government gets involved and says "no, that is stupid, and hurts people, so stop doing it" but tor users are not a protected class. [23:20] TR News Fake coins collapsing in perceived value? No way!! Quick, hurry up and find new gullible people to inject some real money into this pyramid scheme. Until you run out of gullible people (as always happens with MLM) https://www.benzinga.com/markets/cryptocurrency/22/03/26011417/why-defi-coins-fantom-and-yearn-finance-are-seeing-major-slumps-today [23:20] Alternative link Cloudflare: benzinga.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.benzinga.com/markets/cryptocurrency/22/03/26011417/why-defi-coins-fantom-and-yearn-finance-are-seeing-major-slumps-today [23:20] TR Bot DeFi Coins Fantom And Yearn Finance Are Seeing Major Slumps Today - Ethereum - United States Dollar ($ETH) | Benzinga [23:20] bnchs__ the store has chosen not to do business with tor users [23:20] immibis Actually it's not a good analogy because race is unchangeable. It's more like refusing service to people wearing lycra clothing. [23:20] bnchs__ so tor users go and loot the store [23:21] immibis I'm not sure what lycra is, other than a type of clothing, I've known actual stores that by policy refused service to people wearing it [23:21] TR News Russia will now collapse. No more gaming! Who is punished here? https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/playstation_quits_russia/ [23:21] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/playstation_quits_russia/ [23:21] TR Bot Sony Interactive Entertainment pulls PlayStation from Russia The Register [23:21] immibis this is a person wearing lycra sending a helpful volunteer in to buy the stuff for them [23:22] bnchs__ lol sony pulls playstation from russia [23:22] immibis oh lycra = spandex [23:22] bnchs__ "no playstation" "so we have PS3 and shit" [23:22] TR News Microsoft webspam disguised as "news" https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/microsoft_windows_11_insider_tabs/ see http://techrights.org/2021/10/19/vista-11-hoax/ [23:22] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/microsoft_windows_11_insider_tabs/ [23:22] TR Bot New Windows 11 build hits Dev Channel for Insiders The Register [23:22] TR Bot Proof That Windows 11 is a Hoax | Techrights [23:23] TR News This used to be an IBM business, but today's IBM is too busy making a killing.... killing Red Hat like it killed CentOS https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/lenovo_thinksystem_truscale/ [23:23] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/10/lenovo_thinksystem_truscale/ [23:23] TR Bot New servers and services from Lenovo target midsize firms The Register [23:24] perfector "no playstation" for putin [23:25] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #techrights [23:25] activelow removing this playstation crap from society isn't a sanction, it's a blessing [23:25] TR News More hey hi from Hoffman https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/linkedin_hoffman_ai/ Jeffrey Epstein associate: http://techrights.org/2020/08/11/linked-in-to-pedophilia/ [23:25] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/09/linkedin_hoffman_ai/ [23:25] TR Bot LinkedIn billionaire launches Inflection AI startup The Register [23:25] TR Bot Linked In to Pedophilia | Techrights [23:25] *AdmFubar1 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:26] schestowitz-TR2 activelow: exactly! [23:26] schestowitz-TR2 now they can focus on real things [23:26] perfector like conquer ukraine [23:26] schestowitz-TR2 same when they make some other anti-tech stuff "banned" in Russia [23:26] schestowitz-TR2 what are they thinking? [23:26] schestowitz-TR2 maybe they should also ban alcohol exports to Russia [23:27] schestowitz-TR2 to sober up the soldiers [23:27] perfector you need alcohol for moral [23:27] bnchs__ yes i don't know what sony thought what would happen if they took away playstation from russia [23:27] perfector and cold [23:27] bnchs__ i guess no more GTA for putin [23:28] immibis what if Putin gets couped in a few years, Russia rejoins the world economy, but they know how to pirate everything and trigger the collapse of rent-seeking capitalism? [23:28] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO (see between the lines) https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/russia-invasion-cyber-war-rages/ see http://techrights.org/2021/09/30/azure-brute-force/ [23:28] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/russia-invasion-cyber-war-rages/ [23:28] TR Bot We're seeing 800% increase in cyberattacks, says MSP The Register [23:28] TR Bot Microsoft Whistleblower and Clients Warned, More Than 2 Years Ago in Fact, About the Current Azure Mess (But Microsoft Ignored Those Warnings, Buried Facts) | Techrights [23:28] perfector maybe they make ruskystation11 [23:29] perfector like china made ticktoc to detrone facebook [23:30] activelow ISS space station reported issues recently, due to russia sanctions... USA working on it [23:30] activelow we'll see, how that goes [23:30] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/conti_leaks_code/ [23:30] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/conti_leaks_code/ [23:30] TR Bot Leaked Conti files reveal life inside ransomware gang The Register [23:30] XRevan86 immibis: It may come as a shock, but Russians know how to pirate en masse already. [23:30] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/mammoth [23:30] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Mammoth [23:31] perfector one more reason for santions [23:32] DaemonFC There's really nothing Russia can do that we can't at this point. They're using a space launch system that hasn't changed since they were the Soviet Union. [23:32] TR News A lot of that boils down to nepotism really. It's highly rigged. https://www.herald-dispatch.com/news/putnam_news/some-high-income-jobs-can-be-done-without-college-education/article_b4d09dbd-4ad7-5cb1-9b00-032b1366d208.html [23:32] TR Bot high-income jobs can be done without college education | Putnam News | herald-dispatch.com [23:32] bnchs__ gn [23:32] *bnchs__ has quit (connection closed) [23:32] perfector dobra [23:33] TR News Interesting use of the word "inclusion" https://www.thereporteronline.com/2022/03/10/congressman-announces-inclusion-of-more-than-6-5m-for-local-projects-in-house-appropriations-bill/ [23:33] TR Bot announces inclusion of more than $6.5M for local projects in House Appropriations Bill thereporteronline [23:35] TR News To corporations, there's no such thing as inclusive policy and diversity. It's PR. It's inclu$ive (of money) and diver$ity (of income sources; they're open to everyone's revenue stream; give us YOUR money, TOO!). [23:35] DaemonFC Russia has their own space shuttle. It's rotting in a barn. [23:35] DaemonFC It flew once, unmanned, and then never again. [23:35] DaemonFC Someone went in and sprayed graffiti on what was left of it. [23:36] XRevan86 That barn is in Kazakhstan [23:37] perfector at least it didnt exploded mid flight [23:37] DaemonFC https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/12/business/walgreens-freezer-screens/index.html [23:37] Alternative link Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/12/business/walgreens-freezer-screens/index.html [23:37] TR Bot replaced some fridge doors with screens. And some shoppers absolutely hate it - CNN [23:37] DaemonFC "Walgreens and other retailers have swapped out the clear fridge and freezer doors at thousands of stores, instead adding opaque doors with iPad-like screens showing what's inside. Some customers really, really aren't into it." [23:37] DaemonFC LOL [23:37] TR News Moneitisng defects after selling MySQL to SCOracle (well, SUN initially). https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252514448/Tech-brands-sign-on-to-HackerOne-responsible-security-drive [23:37] Alternative link Cloudflare: computerweekly.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252514448/Tech-brands-sign-on-to-HackerOne-responsible-security-drive [23:37] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, ^ [23:37] TR Bot Tech brands sign on to HackerOne responsible security drive [23:38] DaemonFC "The screens, which were developed by the startup Cooler Screens, use a system of motion sensors and cameras to display what's inside the doors as well as product information, prices, deals and, most appealing to brands, paid advertisements. The tech provides stores with an additional revenue stream and a way to modernize the shopping experience." [23:38] DaemonFC Modernize = dystopian shithole. [23:38] DaemonFC Matthew GAFAM must be so proud. [23:38] DaemonFC He lives where people "get it". [23:38] TR News "Smart Speaker" = not really a speaker but a microphone that spies not only on your but on people around you, whom you hurt without their consent https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/03/10/2401017/0/en/Benetech-Unveils-Bookshare-Reader-Suite-for-Smart-Speaker-Web-and-Mobile.html [23:38] TR Bot Benetech Unveils Bookshare Reader Suite for Smart Speaker, [23:39] DaemonFC "The company wants to engage more people with advertising, but the reaction, so far, is annoyance and confusion." [23:39] TR News Technology becomes more authoritarian over time: "Twitter has added a number of features to try to be a more welcoming, less toxic online destination, such as asking people to reconsider their tone when drafting angry tweets" https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/harassment-manager-this-google-app-to-look-into-social-media-attacks-see-details-11646898937016.html http://techrights.org/2022/01/10/twitter-streisand/ [23:39] TR Bot Harassment Manager: This Google app to look into social media attacks. See details [23:39] DaemonFC Annoyance and confusion with more ads? Nooooooooo..... [23:39] TR Bot Twitter is Silencing Victims of Sexual Abuse to Protect Violent Men Who Assault Women (Also: GitHub/Microsoft Employees Too Have Complained About the Perpetrator) | Techrights [23:40] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: I expect to be back tomorrow) [23:40] perfector ads ? more like xoertion [23:40] TR News Twitter is ALL ABOUT the attack.s This is how Twitter tries to actually make money, for a change (it wasn't profitable until Trump became president, causing havoc there) http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/ [23:40] TR Bot Twitter Profits From Conflict | Techrights [23:40] perfector coercion [23:40] schestowitz-TR2 yeah [23:41] TR News Burkina Faso is a convenient test set. If they die, they cannot sue. https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003943 Bill Gates likes doing clinical trials on them http://techrights.org/2020/06/25/philanthropic-racism/ [23:41] Alternative link Cloudflare: plos.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003943 [23:41] TR Bot Serum cobalamin in children with moderate acute malnutrition in Burkina Faso: Secondary analysis of a randomized trial [23:41] TR Bot Philanthropic Racism (Clinical Trials/Experimentation on Live Subjects and Ethnic Cleansing as Public Good) | Techrights [23:42] TR News "Unplug the... oh, wait... your catheter is defective. lol, real sorry" https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/medtronic-fda-expand-hawkone-atherectomy-recall-include-turbohawk-catheters [23:42] Alternative link Cloudflare: fiercebiotech.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/medtronic-fda-expand-hawkone-atherectomy-recall-include-turbohawk-catheters [23:42] TR Bot Medtronic, FDA expand HawkOne atherectomy recall to include TurboHawk Plus catheters | Fierce Biotech [23:43] TR News Automated analysis of activity, sleep, and rhythmic behaviour in various animal species with the Rtivity software https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-08195-z [23:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: nature.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-08195-z [23:43] TR Bot Automated analysis of activity, sleep, and rhythmic behaviour in various animal species with the Rtivity software | Scientific Reports [23:44] TR News Just more buzzwords and nonsense from NSA partners that sneak back doors into everything https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/csa_zero_trust/ [23:44] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/csa_zero_trust/ [23:44] TR Bot Cloud Security Alliance tackles zero-trust networking The Register [23:45] TR News Western media puts scare quotes around "standards" when the standards aren't set and imposed on the whole world with Western patents and monopolistic steering https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/bytedance_alibaba_tencent_video_standard/ [23:45] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/11/bytedance_alibaba_tencent_video_standard/ [23:45] TR Bot Three Chinese web giants create streaming video 'standard' The Register [23:46] perfector https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/03/11/pondering-the-cpu-inside-chinas-sunway-oceanlight-supercomputer/ [23:46] TR Bot How China Made An Exascale Supercomputer Out Of Old 14 Nanometer Tech [23:47] TR News Ronaldo FC beats Spurs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx_3vHBQoV8 [23:47] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Tx_3vHBQoV8 [23:47] TR Bot ( status 500 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Tx_3vHBQoV8 ) [23:48] perfector 14 Nanometer Tech is better thet mu cpu [23:49] perfector do you think they will ban tor in russia? [23:49] TR News The newer ones have back doors too and even more extensive surveillance. The real question should be, should any sane person still carry around such malicious devices in spite of everything publicly known about them? https://www.maketecheasier.com/should-you-use-older-android-phone/ [23:49] TR Bot Should You Use an Older Android Phone? - Make Tech Easier [23:50] TR News "On first launch with Proton 7, what it was verified against, it tells you it needs to install the Rockstar Launcher before you can play. The annoyance begins here of course as I've already waited on a 100GB download." LOL, 0.1 TB!!! https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/steam-deck-verified-has-issues-grand-theft-auto-v-edition [23:50] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/steam-deck-verified-has-issues-grand-theft-auto-v-edition [23:50] TR Bot Deck Verified has issues, Grand Theft Auto V edition | GamingOnLinux [23:51] TR News Automount USB storage with Raspberry PI OS Lite: fstab and autofs https://peppe8o.com/automount-usb-storage-with-raspberry-pi-os-lite-fstab-and-autofs/ [23:51] Alternative link Cloudflare: peppe8o.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://peppe8o.com/automount-usb-storage-with-raspberry-pi-os-lite-fstab-and-autofs/ [23:51] TR Bot Automount USB storage with Raspberry PI OS Lite: fstab and autofs [23:52] TR News "Really, Valve needs to take another look at how they run Deck Verified if trust in it is to be a real thing. Otherwise, like my friend Nick from The Linux Experiment said in our big collaboration video, the green Verified tick will end up meaningless if strict standards aren't followed" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/steam-deck-verified-has-issues-grand-theft-auto-v-edition [23:52] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/steam-deck-verified-has-issues-grand-theft-auto-v-edition [23:53] schestowitz-TR2 psydroid9: in the opium wars the british sent drugs to china [23:53] schestowitz-TR2 to weaken china [23:53] schestowitz-TR2 in these wars, the west cuts OFF drugs [23:53] schestowitz-TR2 like games [23:53] schestowitz-TR2 take that, putin!! [23:53] schestowitz-TR2 no platstation!! [23:54] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars [23:54] TR Bot Opium Wars - Wikipedia [23:54] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Opium_War [23:54] TR Bot First Opium War - Wikipedia [23:54] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Opium_War [23:54] TR Bot Second Opium War - Wikipedia [23:54] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/12/today-in-dystopian-nightmare-walgreens-replaces-glass-freezer-doors-with-advertisements/ [23:54] TR Bot Today in dystopian nightmare, Walgreens replaces glass freezer doors with advertisements. BaronHK's Rants [23:54] DaemonFC How's this? [23:55] perfector you want to play join the army they got toys [23:55] schestowitz-TR2 perfector: now russia cannot attack the west in Enemy Territory [23:55] perfector i once joined the usa amry to play a game [23:55] schestowitz-TR2 they will join the real army [23:55] schestowitz-TR2 and practice with rifples [23:55] schestowitz-TR2 not controllers [23:56] perfector americas army [23:56] perfector they even had a gentoo based cd [23:58] TR News How to give Microsoft and the NSA root over your machine: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=iXcBm7PpZJo see http://techrights.org/2022/02/28/microsoft-github-expose-part-xviii-the-story-of-npm/ [23:58] TR Bot Stop Piping Github Links Into Sudo Bash!! - Invidious [23:58] TR Bot Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XVIII The Story of NPM | Techrights [23:59] TR News Why Is There No Software For Linux!!! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=JLTErwGqP44 it is about QUALITY, not QUANTITY [23:59] TR Bot Why Is There No Software For Linux!!! - Invidious