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schestowitz 12 00:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Quit Calling Bill Gates a Liberal | TechrightsAug 12 00:00
schestowitz[22:18] <DaemonFC[m]> So even less incentive to appeal to the left.Aug 12 00:00
schestowitzyupAug 12 00:00
DaemonFC[m]Pulling $4 million out of the Seattle PD got its own article.Aug 12 00:00
schestowitzreal issueAug 12 00:00
schestowitzthey think "voting" means "making fB posts" and "liking"Aug 12 00:00
DaemonFC[m]What they downplay is that this is out of a $400 million budget. So a 1% cut.Aug 12 00:00
DaemonFC[m]Who knows what the city is cutting from other agencies?Aug 12 00:00
schestowitz[00:00] <DaemonFC[m]> Pulling $4 million out of the Seattle PD got its own article.Aug 12 00:01
schestowitz?Aug 12 00:01
DaemonFC[m]I'll bet if you look, many agencies got a hell of a lot more than a 1% cut.Aug 12 00:01
schestowitzsource?Aug 12 00:02
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: disturbing to see how Gates games the media, BUT...Aug 12 00:02
schestowitzTHis is nothing new, he has done that for well over a decadeAug 12 00:02
DaemonFC[m] 12 00:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Carmen Best, Seattle's First Black Police Chief, Abruptly Announces Retirement : Live Updates: Protests For Racial Justice : NPRAug 12 00:02
schestowitzhe's now losing this battleAug 12 00:02
schestowitzlittle by little, the narrative control gets lostAug 12 00:02
DaemonFC[m]It's in the mainstream news.Aug 12 00:02
DaemonFC[m]100 officers got layoff notices.Aug 12 00:02
schestowitzNPR, massively Gates-fundedAug 12 00:03
schestowitzthey do lots of his propaganda on COVID this yearAug 12 00:03
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: well, seems like a likely trend nationwideAug 12 00:03
schestowitzso I would not attribute this to bezos, gates, msft, whateverAug 12 00:03
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, NYC cut $1 billion out of $6 billion police budget.Aug 12 00:03
DaemonFC[m]So a much larger proportional cut than the Seattle PD took.Aug 12 00:04
DaemonFC[m] 12 00:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New York Police Department's budget has been slashed by $1 billion - CNNAug 12 00:04
schestowitzthanks, that helpsAug 12 00:05
DaemonFC[m]The cops in Chicago are worthless thugs. They don't even pretend to respond to crime in the south side. 38 minute average response time. Then they go beat up homeless people and light their tents and belongings on fire.Aug 12 00:05
DaemonFC[m]Mom loves cops like that.Aug 12 00:06
DaemonFC[m]They don't patrol those neighborhoods on purpose. To encourage violence there and to pressure people to move out if any "developers" offer them money to leave.Aug 12 00:06
schestowitzLater today I will check email and see if dhs/tsa replied to meAug 12 00:06
schestowitzI don't intend to do ANY follow-upsAug 12 00:06
schestowitznot even to tell them "i'm done here"Aug 12 00:06
schestowitzit's their jobAug 12 00:07
schestowitzthey claim to be ever so powerful with their spyingAug 12 00:07
schestowitzlet's see how they cope with a useful hat tipAug 12 00:07
DaemonFC[m]What about publishing a story if they don't do anything?Aug 12 00:07
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: Aug 12 00:08
schestowitz 12 00:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ » Blog Archive » ‘Collateral Damage’ of Aggressive Private InvestigatorsAug 12 00:08
schestowitzAnd more relevant: 12 00:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ » Blog Archive » Why I Believe British Police Serves and Protects Only Itself (and Maybe the Rich/Powerful)Aug 12 00:08
DaemonFC[m]They have him on constant background checks, allegedly, to work at the DHS.Aug 12 00:08
DaemonFC[m]So I can't imagine how any of this could slip past them.Aug 12 00:08
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: that's a possibility, doing a story about their inactionAug 12 00:08
schestowitzbut it would require at least a second pushAug 12 00:08
schestowitzand also, it would potentially expose some stuff about that person, which means unwanted attention to someAug 12 00:09
schestowitzlet's leave it aside for nowAug 12 00:09
schestowitzdigression, my faultAug 12 00:09
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, to have me comment on that would mean that people would associate me with HIM.Aug 12 00:09
DaemonFC[m]Gross.Aug 12 00:09
schestowitzlooks like brazil might report more covid deaths than US, overall, some time this autumnAug 12 00:09
DaemonFC[m]I really want nothing to do with him. He deserves to rot in jail.Aug 12 00:09
schestowitzBut US has 1300+ deaths againAug 12 00:10
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: all one can do it report to TSAAug 12 00:10
schestowitz(DHS)Aug 12 00:10
DaemonFC[m]If he's really done anything like what he was fantasizing about with those guys, I mean, he could go away for a long long time.Aug 12 00:10
schestowitzif they do nothing, well, at least you did you duty and triedAug 12 00:10
DaemonFC[m]But the CP too, that's years on every count.Aug 12 00:10
schestowitzFlorida 300 deadAug 12 00:11
schestowitzand they limited testingAug 12 00:11
schestowitzmy sister joked about itAug 12 00:11
DaemonFC[m]In Illinois, you're lucky if someone catches you and it was the state.Aug 12 00:11
schestowitzwhen the numbers go 'too' high they offer a solution by cutting the test volumeAug 12 00:11
DaemonFC[m]The state has much less severe laws. They're still really really bad charges, but not the federal ones.Aug 12 00:11
DaemonFC[m]We all know how the court system works. Merely being accused of something is a trial by public opinion.Aug 12 00:12
DaemonFC[m]Sometimes you're so rich you don't care because you're not trying to get a job at a hardware store and get to the "felon box". Epstein had his own island, army of lawyers, and hush money.Aug 12 00:13
DaemonFC[m]I mean look how many victims there were before they did anything real to him.Aug 12 00:13
DaemonFC[m]13 months of house arrest and you have dozens of accusers saying you fucked them when they were like 14? Seriously?Aug 12 00:13
DaemonFC[m]Less than a month on each accusation and a no prosecute deal from the feds?Aug 12 00:14
DaemonFC[m]Show me a working class person who would get that.Aug 12 00:14
DaemonFC[m]After that it was another half a decade and more and more people coming forward. Aug 12 00:14
DaemonFC[m]I mean, he probably had sex with like 100 kids before they took it seriously and all the way he was essentially the Pablo Escobar of child rape. Aug 12 00:15
DaemonFC[m]Comes to an "agreement" with the government where a resort island will be his "prison".Aug 12 00:16
schestowitzwell, many people will be canceled soonAug 12 00:16
DaemonFC[m]Complete with police officers he pays after hours to check people in and out. Aug 12 00:16
schestowitzBill's army of lawyers and bribed journalists cannot save him for long... public opinion changed very rapidly this yearAug 12 00:16
schestowitzsee the article I did hours agoAug 12 00:16
schestowitzI did not add linksAug 12 00:16
schestowitzlike tweets of hisAug 12 00:16
schestowitzno need for "bill sez" in my articles too...Aug 12 00:17
schestowitzIBM is really in pain over this 12 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IBM and the Bomb: Series Index (on 75th Anniversary of Atomic Bombs Being Dropped on Civilians) | TechrightsAug 12 00:17
schestowitznow they'll try to spin it as though they save livesAug 12 00:17
DaemonFC[m]Well, public opinion about the Coronavirus vaccine cratered the more the media mentioned Bill Gates.Aug 12 00:17
schestowitzyupAug 12 00:17
schestowitzdid you see what I wrote?Aug 12 00:17
schestowitzI mentioned you by nameAug 12 00:18
DaemonFC[m]You could probably put it on a timeline and with an X/Y axis showing the more mentions, the lower the public opinion on the vaccine.Aug 12 00:18
schestowitzHe funds that Oxford pushAug 12 00:18
schestowitzthey experiment in SA nowAug 12 00:18
DaemonFC[m]About the Bill Gates "vaccine" thing?Aug 12 00:18
schestowitzand when I see his name I'm like "oh....."Aug 12 00:18
schestowitz"THAT gates"Aug 12 00:18
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: 12 00:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | You Just Know Somebody is in a State of Retreat When the Strategy Becomes to Discredit One’s Critics (or Collectively Paint Them All as Wrong/Crazy) | TechrightsAug 12 00:19
schestowitzit's a culmination of many posts like thisAug 12 00:19
schestowitzthis is a strategy used for monthsAug 12 00:19
schestowitzbut now it seems clear he's concerned and not sure how to handle "Social" mediaAug 12 00:19
schestowitzharder to bribe usersAug 12 00:19
schestowitzthan select mediaAug 12 00:19
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: One article labeled "internet trolls" as trying to smear him with his Epstein "acquaintance". Aug 12 00:20
DaemonFC[m]Maybe you struck a nerve.Aug 12 00:20
DaemonFC[m]As-if Bill Gates had bumped into Epstein at a charity dinner one time or something.Aug 12 00:20
schestowitzFlorida reported more #covid19 deaths today than all of Europe combined. 50% more!Aug 12 00:21
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: I did many articles about it todayAug 12 00:21
schestowitzgo to page 1 and 2 of the siteAug 12 00:21
schestowitzI showed just how deep it goesAug 12 00:22
schestowitzesp. wrt to MITAug 12 00:22
schestowitzThis is for today's log: Aug 12 00:22
schestowitzgrep jones  /var/log/httpd/ | wcAug 12 00:22
schestowitz  56762 1319992 14091588Aug 12 00:22
schestowitzthat includes some imagesAug 12 00:22
schestowitzbut you get the point, many people now catch up with all the Jones stuffAug 12 00:22
schestowitzand they download the PDFs tooAug 12 00:22
schestowitzTwitter is shadowbanning many of themAug 12 00:23
schestowitzI noticedAug 12 00:23
schestowitz[16:18] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): Why does #twitter shadowban people who link to #techrights today (Epstein articles)? So eager to protect high-profile pedophiles from scrutiny, @jack ? []Aug 12 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | PleromaAug 12 00:23
schestowitz[11:37] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): #twitter #socialcontrolmedia has this thing called "Quality Filter" but even if one toggles it off Twitter still censors/shadowbans accounts based on the company's private agenda. It's a #censorship and #propaganda machine branded "Social"... []Aug 12 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | PleromaAug 12 00:23
schestowitz[09:55] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): #twitter is totally and entirely unreliable (and not credible!) as comms medium because of #shadowbanning #socialcontrolmedia pushing particular sinister agenda, removing voices (people) and messages []Aug 12 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | PleromaAug 12 00:23
schestowitz[09:53] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): #twitter is #shadowbanning many accounts that link to #techrights reports on #billgates (I've only just noticed) []Aug 12 00:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | PleromaAug 12 00:23
schestowitzamong moreAug 12 00:24
schestowitzI can still manage to see them sometimesAug 12 00:24
schestowitzbut Twitter occludes thatAug 12 00:24
schestowitzThey try to paint Gates critics with some sort of "bad health" adviceAug 12 00:24
schestowitzwhich is of course baloneyAug 12 00:24
DaemonFC[m]I have to admit that my own thinking has changed about the vaccine.Aug 12 00:25
DaemonFC[m]At first it seemed like a dire emergency that I just had to take a vaccine when it was out and hope for the best. Now it's like, "Well, it's been months, half of the people in the city I live in have had it, 3/4ths of the deaths are in nursing homes, and 440-some deaths in a county with over 850,000 residents.".Aug 12 00:26
schestowitzmany people feel that wayAug 12 00:27
schestowitzalso, it can mutateAug 12 00:27
DaemonFC[m]It's not the "Everyone falling over dead." thing that it looked like in March and April because doctors have learned to treat it better and we know that common sense mitigation means that the people who throw caution to the wind are the ones getting it, and even idiots have an immune system and will eventually slow down the spread and protect the smart people.Aug 12 00:27
schestowitzso an effective vaccine can be seasonalAug 12 00:27
DaemonFC[m]Well, the New Zealand Bunker is the strategy the rich chose because they knew they could sit America out for one season and wait for it to get really really bad here and then blow over.Aug 12 00:28
schestowitzNZ is doing OKAug 12 00:29
schestowitzand became the envy of some countriesAug 12 00:29
DaemonFC[m]Bill Gates is rich enough that he'd probably never get it because he doesn't have to go anywhere for work or which is packed with people who are of unknown status, etc. etc.Aug 12 00:29
schestowitzalong with Korea, more so than SingaporeAug 12 00:29
schestowitzVietnam alsoAug 12 00:29
DaemonFC[m]So he can afford to sit back and muse about something that's not his problem, really, and an opportunity to make rapacious profits.Aug 12 00:29
schestowitzthat's his planAug 12 00:30
schestowitzToday I put some old Gates quotes about money here: 12 00:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Looking Back at the Real Story of Microsoft | TechrightsAug 12 00:30
schestowitz"Gates asks, thinking bigger. It occurs to him that people banking from home will cut checks using Microsoft’s software. Microsoft can then push all those transactions through its new affiliate, taking a fee on every one. Abruptly, Gates sheds his disappointment with Money. He’s caught up in a vision of “the transformation of the world financial system.” It’s a “pot of gold,” he declares, pounding the conference table Aug 12 00:30
schestowitzwith his fists, triumphant and hungry and wired. “Get me into that and goddam, we’ll make so much money!” Here is Microsoft in action. In just three hours, it laid plans to buy at least two companies, ditched an alliance with a major financial institution, opted for another and made major moves into “two incredible new worlds,” as Gates put it–home banking and sports entertainment. Another company might take months to Aug 12 00:30
schestowitzaccomplish as much.”"Aug 12 00:30
schestowitz 12 00:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Public Letters Protesting Against Department of Justice Decisions | TechrightsAug 12 00:31
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Hardware With Linux Support: NUVIA and AMD Wraith Prism []Aug 12 00:43
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming Leftovers []Aug 12 00:46
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Devices and Open Hardware []Aug 12 00:51
DaemonFC[m]Gates said. "This disease, from both the animal data and the phase 1 data, seems to be very vaccine-preventable."Aug 12 00:52
DaemonFC[m]To Gates, testing on blacks is "animal testing".Aug 12 00:53
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers []Aug 12 00:53
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Did you see the Kodak thing?Aug 12 00:53
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DaemonFC[m]Their stock dropped 40% because the Treasury blocked the loan because of the insider trading.Aug 12 00:54
DaemonFC[m]Trump tipping off his friends that Kodak would get a loan, so Kodak runs the press release, gets a bunch of idiots to pump money into their stock. The execs sell it and make billions, and then the Treasury halts the loan and the stock crashes.Aug 12 00:55
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DaemonFC[m]They were probably in on the part about not getting the loan too, I'd imagine.Aug 12 00:55
DaemonFC[m]6.5% positive today.Aug 12 00:58
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Screecasts, Linux App Summit, LIMBAS and More []Aug 12 00:58
DaemonFC[m]Nationally.Aug 12 00:58
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: We're running about as many tests as we were over the last couple weeks.Aug 12 00:58
DaemonFC[m]The positive test results seem to be coming back down, but we know that that's a dangerous thing to assume will continue.Aug 12 00:59
DaemonFC[m]Regionally, it can still be horrific Florida hospitals have NO capacity as of a few days ago, and Florida is still adding more hospital cases in 2 days than Illinois has at any given time in total.Aug 12 01:00
DaemonFC[m]They're doing field hospitals and triaging, so I believe the death rate will go up some more from here even if the new infections do, in fact, go down.Aug 12 01:00
DaemonFC[m]That projections site that's been so stupid and so wrong this entire time went from projecting 13,000 deaths for Florida by November to nearly 20,000 in the past month.Aug 12 01:01
DaemonFC[m]They make bad guesses and then revise them upwards with no indicator of how wrong they've been.Aug 12 01:01
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 12/8/2020: New GNU Emacs, GXml-0.20, WordPress 5.5, and Mozilla is Laying off 250 Staff []Aug 12 01:06
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I can definitely see the case for a decade or more of the Democrats controlling the House.Aug 12 01:08
schestowitz[00:53] <DaemonFC[m]> To Gates, testing on blacks is "animal testing".Aug 12 01:08
schestowitzyesAug 12 01:08
DaemonFC[m]Although the base of that control over the House will be controlling virtually all of the seats in California and Illinois. Aug 12 01:08
DaemonFC[m]They'll have over 1/3rd of the majority number (218) from California and Illinois and only need to pick up another 150-153 seats from somewhere else in the country.Aug 12 01:10
DaemonFC[m]Since having a minority in the House isn't worth anything, that could mean that entire states that send a large share of Republicans effectively lose all of their representation in the House. Aug 12 01:11
DaemonFC[m]In other words, the Democrats who are always in those gerrymandered sacrifice districts in states like Indiana will actually have more control over national policy than the Republicans.Aug 12 01:12
DaemonFC[m]If the state delegation manages to get anything for their state, it will end up going to places like Indianapolis. Not where mom is.Aug 12 01:12
DaemonFC[m]But that's what her representative did anyway. All of Indiana's Republicans voted against the CARES Act saying they didn't want any government response at all to the pandemic, and so did all the Republicans in Wisconsin.Aug 12 01:13
DaemonFC[m]Even with the House, the Republicans fell into bickering and self-sabotage with what to do with it, and could barely even pass their own "healthcare bill", which failed in the Senate.Aug 12 01:15
DaemonFC[m]They're so good at clutching defeat from the jaws of victory, that they can have 230-240 seats and much of the time they don't pass their own bills anyway.Aug 12 01:15
DaemonFC[m]So while they think they could (barely) take a majority on an off chance, they couldn't do much with 220-ish seats. Aug 12 01:16
DaemonFC[m]Last time, they went into sessions naming post offices and just blocking votes on Democrat bills anyway, which is what the Senate does now.Aug 12 01:17
DaemonFC[m]Seems like the strategy for the people left who will donate to the Republicans is to concede that Biden will probably win, the Democrats will stay in control of the House, but that they must keep the Senate.Aug 12 01:17
DaemonFC[m]Trump is in a very bad mood because his donations have collapsed. He figured Biden's would too, so he confidently bragged about his fundraising figures about a week ago and then Biden came out and said they beat that by over $8 million for the month.Aug 12 01:19
DaemonFC[m]The real story is the PAC situation. The PACs can't work directly with a campaign, but they can take "signals", and so the Biden PACs have 3x the money the Trump ones do.Aug 12 01:19
DaemonFC[m]I've only been in one election where the airwaves were getting blasted and phone was ringing off the hook with robocalls. 2008 in Indiana.Aug 12 01:20
DaemonFC[m]Hard to believe that some people go through this every election.Aug 12 01:20
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Shadowbanning for linking to you on Twitter.Aug 12 01:22
DaemonFC[m]You'd think that would be beneath them.Aug 12 01:23
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: DuckDuckGo seems to return fewer results for your site than Google or Startpage.Aug 12 01:26
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: not necessarily for linking to meAug 12 01:30
schestowitzmy theory is, they link to a bunch of thingsAug 12 01:30
schestowitztechrights is just among theseAug 12 01:30
schestowitzso Twitter hides themAug 12 01:30
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: DDG uses Microsoft as wellAug 12 01:31
schestowitzhard to think b0ng would send much traffic to usAug 12 01:31
schestowitz 12 01:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DMCANews: DARK Infographic. Some people are visual learners...@schestowitz Thanks for the copyleft article. Found the missing… 12 01:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DMCANews: DARK Infographic. Some people are visual learners...@schestowitz Thanks for the copyleft article. Found the missing… 12 01:31
schestowitzDARK Infographic. Some people are visual learners...@schestowitzAug 12 01:31
schestowitz Thanks for the copyleft article. Found the missing piece there! #GNU #Linux The #Microsoft Connection... I call this, "where's my refund?!" #FSF #inkscape #phpmyadmin #etherpad #QEMU #Samba - who are your stewards?!Aug 12 01:31
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Infographic by Marcia Wilbur: Where’s My Refund?! []Aug 12 01:42
smnthermes 12 01:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Brad Spengler (@spendergrsec): "Why don't you inform your readers you're quoting anonymous troll and self-professed pedophile Mikeeusa who has resurfaced again with another anonymous remailer address to post what you quoted? This is the same person who claimed the GPL could be rescinded" | nitterAug 12 01:53
smnthermesschestowitz: ^Aug 12 01:56
oiaohmsmnthermes: there has been a problem that a lot of people look at GPL as copyright and ignore  the contract property.   China courts take the contract route with GPL not the copyright one.   Resinded is a copyright idea not a contract one.Aug 12 02:00
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oiaohm  this is a good read.   The contract is between the developer and the end user.     So attempting to rescind GPL under contract law is breach of contract between the developer and the end users.   Things get really interesting at this point.Aug 12 02:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-China's courts pass controversial rulings on open-source licencing - LexologyAug 12 02:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Mortgage Mayhem Begins: Overall Delinquency Rates Soar As Housing Crisis Lurks  | Zero HedgeAug 12 02:32
DaemonFC[m]Talking about "McMansions".Aug 12 02:33
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, that's the kind of thing my dad will live in.Aug 12 02:33
DaemonFC[m]He and my step-mom moves 4 times in the last 20 years.Aug 12 02:33
DaemonFC[m]They never get done paying a mortgage, they just sell it and move.Aug 12 02:34
DaemonFC[m]We should all be so lucky. There's no way in hell I would be sitting here paying to live in this place if I could avoid it.Aug 12 02:34
DaemonFC[m]We should all have a house, a shotgun, and a get off my lawn sign. In my opinion....Aug 12 02:35
DaemonFC[m]Too bad we have neoliberalism. No good jobs and several people with $100 billion each accumulating all the wealth.Aug 12 02:36
DaemonFC[m]Landlords are the modern day robber baron. They gave and gave and gave to Trump and now look where it got them.Aug 12 02:36
DaemonFC[m]Half their tenants haven't paid rent in months.Aug 12 02:36
DaemonFC[m]"What could possibly go wrong?" Indeed.Aug 12 02:37
DaemonFC[m]When millions of people are dead and everyone with a brain in their head stops reproducing to focus on their own survival, Bill Gates will have gotten what he wanted finally, even if the vaccines are nothing more than a money making scam.Aug 12 02:38
DaemonFC[m] 12 02:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Coronavirus 'baby bust' could be worse than expectedAug 12 02:40
DaemonFC[m]Catholics freaking out that there won't be more kids to molest (and pay dues in the future).Aug 12 02:41
DaemonFC[m]My dad was talking about a conspiracy from the UN to depopulate using the Coronavirus back in March.Aug 12 02:42
DaemonFC[m]It is driving up the death rate in the U by about 14% on average so far this year. Aug 12 02:42
DaemonFC[m]*USAug 12 02:42
DaemonFC[m]The system's not really set up to handle that efficiently, especially when the numbers flare up regionally.Aug 12 02:42
DaemonFC[m]Officially, the Coronavirus has killed 1 in 1,972 Americans as of right now.Aug 12 02:44
DaemonFC[m]But with the numbers stacking up, it could end up killing about 1 in 400 maybe.Aug 12 02:45
DaemonFC[m]There's really no plan to mitigate it. The states are mostly forcing kids to go piling back into school with no masks and no distancing and no hand sanitizer stations to make Trump happy, and then they have to freak out and send everyone home right away.Aug 12 02:45
DaemonFC[m] 12 02:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Abortions in Illinois Increased About 7 Percent in 1 Year – NBC ChicagoAug 12 02:49
DaemonFC[m]This was before COVID.Aug 12 02:49
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, when the state keeps growing and you have to work longer hours to feed the state "workers", you can't have kids.Aug 12 02:50
DaemonFC[m]"Many abortion opponents link the increase to a state law that went into effect in 2018 expanding taxpayer-subsidized abortions."Aug 12 02:51
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, the Democrat plan for a decline in Chicago violent crime.Aug 12 02:51
DaemonFC[m]It'll take about 11-12 years which is when most of them pick up a gun for the first time.Aug 12 02:51
DaemonFC[m]Meanwhile, I get to appeal to get my FOID card back. Nice huh?Aug 12 02:51
DaemonFC[m]There's something way worse going on in black Chicago than Bill Gates and his Child Pornographers.Aug 12 02:53
DaemonFC[m]Gangs recruiting kids to use as child soldiers.Aug 12 02:53
DaemonFC[m]Every time the state tries to deal with the crime, the black community circles the wagons around the ones that are robbing and raping them.Aug 12 02:54
DaemonFC[m]Tosses some dumb bitch in the prosecutor's office who won't go after gangland crime at all because that's racist.Aug 12 02:54
DaemonFC[m]They need to pass laws to bring back the death sentence and apply it to more gang activities.Aug 12 02:55
DaemonFC[m]Like recruiting kids and telling them to go shoot someone. The people doing that should be put down.Aug 12 02:55
DaemonFC[m]They don't deserve to live in this world.Aug 12 02:55
DaemonFC[m]It doesn't take a high percentage of the population to cause a huge violent crime problem.Aug 12 02:56
DaemonFC[m]It takes 2-3% maybe and a government that is paralyzed at the criminal justice level.Aug 12 02:56
DaemonFC[m]"Building a New Chicago" Yeah, on the bones of hundreds of thousands of aborted black babies. Aug 12 02:57
DaemonFC[m]That's the part they don't want to talk about. They gave up on welfare, jobs, and law enforcement in those neighborhoods and opened up abortion factories instead.Aug 12 02:58
DaemonFC[m]My mom just totally does not get what is going on in there and thinks that people are just raiding stores downtown because they personally want the merchandise that's in there.Aug 12 02:59
DaemonFC[m]They'll sell it to some white person, maybe her, at a table at some fairground.Aug 12 02:59
DaemonFC[m]She'll go "Look at my new Coach purse. Can you believe the great deal I got on it?".Aug 12 02:59
DaemonFC[m]There's no good jobs. There weren't any before this.Aug 12 02:59
DaemonFC[m]Take 26% youth unemployment and make it 50%. This is what happens.Aug 12 03:00
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: the Australian studies on School children shows the spread rate in children(before adolescent stage)  of covid-19 without masks or hand sanitizer is basically so close to zero its not funny.   Issue is the parent picking up the kids.  Aug 12 03:11
oiaohmPrimary schools basically can operate as long as you can work out how to get the kids there without having adult and adolescent interactions.Aug 12 03:12
oiaohm   Its basically one of the warped things about covid-19 compared to the common cold.  The younger children get covid-19 from adults or adolescents then basically don't spread it.Aug 12 03:16
oiaohmCommon cold children is one of the greatest spreaders.Aug 12 03:16
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: if Australia numbers are to go by if USA gets 100 percent covid-19 infection you are looking at a 1.5% death rate.     So its not 1 in 400 it would be 1 in 100 dead plus a bit   That would be worse case if USA does not get it under control at all.Aug 12 03:22
oiaohm1 percent of your population to get rid of their bodies is a large disposal problem.Aug 12 03:23
DaemonFC[m]Comrade Pootie Poot claims they're ready to inject XRevan86 with questionable shit.Aug 12 03:27
DaemonFC[m]This is even worse than some vaccine the US could have in January because there's some testing going on here.Aug 12 03:28
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]:   Yes the russia vaccine is questionable worse it fairly much sure to have what called minor side effects for younger people having covid-19 for real could be less painful.Aug 12 04:11
DaemonFC[m]I'm planning to hold off and see what it does to people.Aug 12 04:12
DaemonFC[m]The government hasn't floated the idea of foisting it on us yet because it hasn't had to. One doesn't exist.Aug 12 04:13
oiaohmThere is every change for Australia that by time vaccine is ready the covid-19 inside Australia will be 100 percent neutralised by contact tracing and quarantine.Aug 12 04:15
DaemonFC[m]DoubtfulAug 12 04:16
oiaohmYes it go strict here that crossing state boarders is now you must fly and when you fly you must spend 14 days in a hotel at your expense in quarantine.    Go by road is no go.Aug 12 04:16
oiaohmgo/gotAug 12 04:16
oiaohmWe have covid-19 here fairly much restricted to 1 state.Aug 12 04:16
oiaohmCause if it mess is hotel quarantine was run wrong.Aug 12 04:16
DaemonFC[m]Pretty sure the government experiments on black people here too, schestowitz Aug 12 04:35
DaemonFC[m]John and I both passed out and woke up 36 hours or so later one day in South Shore.Aug 12 04:35
DaemonFC[m]What are the odds that it happens to both of us?Aug 12 04:36
DaemonFC[m]Crime in the building was so high that you ducked into your apartment and didn't talk to people. Aug 12 04:36
DaemonFC[m]So I have no idea if it happened to other tenants or not.Aug 12 04:37
DaemonFC[m]We both got really tired around 7 PM one evening and then woke up at 6:56 the next day. Figured "Eh, I never wake up at this time of morning.". Made coffee and sat down to drink it and noticed it was PM.Aug 12 04:38
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psydread> They try to paint Gates critics with some sort of "bad health" adviceAug 12 05:48
psydreadMS astroturfers have been doing that to me recently, but I expose them for what they are and they subsequwntly leave the discussionAug 12 05:48
psydread"tin foil hat", "mentally ill", "crazy"Aug 12 05:48
psydreadit's a recurring theme straight from the book of GatesAug 12 05:49
psydreadwhen you see the pattern it becomes laughableAug 12 05:49
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schestowitzWow, Twitter seems to have silently removed this optionAug 12 06:41
schestowitz 12 06:41
schestowitzmore lock-inAug 12 06:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How to download and view your entire Twitter historyAug 12 06:41
schestowitzlost dataAug 12 06:41
schestowitz"The download your data feature is unavailable right now. Try again at a later date."Aug 12 06:43
DaemonFC[m]I'll be mailing my vote right back in the day it arrives in my PO Box.Aug 12 06:46
DaemonFC[m]I don't trust that the post office will be in any hurry to get it back, so I'm going to try to build in some delay tolerance there.Aug 12 06:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ventuckyspaz: Just wanted to mention that Tulsi Gabbard battled against the two most dangerous women in politics, Kamala Harris &… 12 06:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ventuckyspaz: Wasn't @TulsiGabbard the real MVP when she sent this tweet thread out? A sitting congresswoman and presidential can… 12 06:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ventuckyspaz: @TulsiGabbard goes on @TuckerCarlson and discusses Tulsi confronting @KamalaHarris with her record and her deflect… 12 06:57
schestowitz"Aug 12 06:57
schestowitz@TulsiGabbardAug 12 06:57
schestowitz goes on @TuckerCarlsonAug 12 06:57
schestowitz and discusses Tulsi confronting @KamalaHarrisAug 12 06:57
schestowitz with her record  and her deflecting and then after the debate lobbing cheap smears that Tulsi is a "foreign agent" and "Putin apologist". #KamalaDestroyedAug 12 06:57
schestowitzFull Interview: 12 06:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tulsi Gabbard sounds off after ripping Kamala Harris at debate - YouTubeAug 12 06:57
schestowitz"Aug 12 06:57
schestowitz 12 06:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ventuckyspaz: I can't believe that Biden's campaign actually picked Kamala. The attack ads practically write themselves. Also thi… 12 06:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ventuckyspaz: I can't believe that Biden's campaign actually picked Kamala. The attack ads practically write themselves. Also thi… 12 06:58
schestowitz"I can't believe that Biden's campaign actually picked Kamala. The attack ads practically write themselves. Also this eats into Biden's core support from black voters. He's just spitting in their faces. Let's see his polling numbers after this..."\Aug 12 06:58
schestowitz 12 06:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ventuckyspaz: Hear that @BernieSanders? According to @HillaryClinton it's your fault that failed presidential candidate… 12 06:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Ventuckyspaz: Hear that @BernieSanders? According to @HillaryClinton it's your fault that failed presidential candidate… 12 06:58
schestowitz"Aug 12 06:58
schestowitzHear that @BernieSandersAug 12 06:58
schestowitz? According to @HillaryClintonAug 12 06:58
schestowitz it's your fault that failed presidential candidate @KamalaHarrisAug 12 06:59
schestowitz had to drop out because you ran a competitive primary campaign in 2016/2020 and you don't admonish your supporters for attacking other democrats from the left.Aug 12 06:59
schestowitz"Aug 12 06:59
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: I think Twitter censors some links/accounts that it ought notAug 12 07:05
schestowitzcan you check from your end to compare (based on what you see in US)?Aug 12 07:05
DaemonFC[m]Check what?Aug 12 07:06
schestowitz 12 07:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Search Twitter - since:2020-08-11Aug 12 07:06
schestowitzsome results are not showing upAug 12 07:06
schestowitzfor techrights-linking peopleAug 12 07:06
schestowitzbut maybe it's depending on browser and UIAug 12 07:07
schestowitzThe results don't show up in older Twitter interface, only some of them doAug 12 07:07
DaemonFC[m]I think I'm seeing everything.Aug 12 07:08
schestowitzMy posts there are sourced from joindispora, i don't post directly to TwitterAug 12 07:08
schestowitzDo you see an account called Aug 12 07:09
schestowitzSambyAug 12 07:09
schestowitz@TT10NDDAug 12 07:09
schestowitzdon't know what or who that is, but in old Twitter UI they dropped that result, among othersAug 12 07:09
schestowitzBiden is such a useless idiotAug 12 07:10
schestowitzCould choose someone like Warren and upset the oligarchsAug 12 07:10
schestowitzInstead he took Harris to upset the left, young voters, even many blacksAug 12 07:10
schestowitz2016 all over againAug 12 07:10
schestowitzKaine KalamaAug 12 07:11
schestowitzKamalaAug 12 07:11
schestowitzseems like yesterday my 800,000th "tweet" was postedAug 12 07:14
schestowitzonly just noticedAug 12 07:14
schestowitz 12 07:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ "The brutal assault on those protesting the discriminatory #CitizenshipAmendmentLaw takes place even as #India is going through an unprecedented #economic crisis." Aug 12 07:15
schestowitz"India is in big trouble - with itself."Aug 12 07:15
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schestowitz 12 07:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ "The arc of American history reveals an unmistakable pattern. Whenever privilege and power conspire to pull us backward, we eventually rally and move forward." 12 07:16
schestowitz"Aug 12 07:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> | Robert Reich (Reasons for Optimism)Aug 12 07:16
schestowitzwatching the time since 2001 has not encouraged me as much as free software has.Aug 12 07:16
schestowitz2014 really involved crimes against humanity in the making, im disgusted with a lot of companies that acted like friends.Aug 12 07:16
schestowitz"Aug 12 07:16
schestowitz 12 07:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/ "the American left penning an open letter arguing that the political imperative of removing Donald Trump from office is so great that ‘any blue will do’ Tom Perez, the head of the DNC, was caught stacking Democratic Convention committees" Aug 12 07:17
schestowitz"Aug 12 07:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> The Open Letter and the DNC - CounterPunch.orgAug 12 07:17
schestowitzThe Democrats cooking the books will cost them this election - and maybe the party itself.Aug 12 07:17
schestowitztomgrzAug 12 07:17
schestowitztomgrz - 6 months agoAug 12 07:17
schestowitzThis is all true:Aug 12 07:17
schestowitzThis will include the panoply of cheating mechanisms that were at work in 2016, including blatant cheating in Nevada and Chicago, the suppression of likely Bernie votes (200,000 in New York, 750,000–2 million in California), and of course the designed-for-fraud electronic voting systems that gave Hillary statistically anomalous victories in 2016—way beyond pre-election and exit polling and only in states with impossible-to-audit Aug 12 07:17
schestowitzelectronic voting machines.Aug 12 07:17
schestowitz 12 07:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Party’s Over: Bernie’s Last Dance With the Dems - CounterPunch.orgAug 12 07:17
schestowitztomgrzAug 12 07:17
schestowitztomgrz - 6 months agoAug 12 07:17
schestowitzThere were even other “inside” events - inside the DNC, such as when Bernie’s campaign was temporarily blocked from using their campaign databases by the DNC.Aug 12 07:17
schestowitz"Aug 12 07:17
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: Aug 12 07:26
schestowitzgrep jones  /var/log/httpd/ | wcAug 12 07:27
schestowitz  66340 1551385 16547866Aug 12 07:27
schestowitzmaybe I'll share with you, somehow, those remaining 2700+ pagesAug 12 07:27
schestowitzand see if we can come up with something to report on themAug 12 07:27
schestowitzwithout actually releasing them, as I really don't see any good coming out of putting the hashes and filenames out thereAug 12 07:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The EU is launching a market for personal data. Here’s what that means for privacy. | MIT Technology ReviewAug 12 11:32
psydroidthe only way to get away from this data hunger is to stop existing?Aug 12 11:33
MinceRor to make others stop existingAug 12 11:45
oiaohmpsydroid: move to one of the rare island that you may not live by going there.Aug 12 11:45
MinceRparticular others :>Aug 12 11:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | CONGRATULATIONS, WARD SUTTON! | Mad MagazineAug 12 13:09
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zoobabthere is a public consultation on the way forward with the IP action plan, and UPC in particularAug 12 13:41
zoobabdeadline this friday eveningAug 12 13:41
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scientesMinceR, that's stupidAug 12 14:26
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MinceRscientes: "so's your face!"Aug 12 14:30
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schestowitz[13:41] <zoobab> there is a public consultation on the way forward with the IP action plan,Aug 12 16:15
schestowitzAre they moving to IPv6 at long last?Aug 12 16:15
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XRevan86> NEWS ● #meduza #ru #russia ☞ ‘The people of #Belarus Aug 12 17:50
XRevan86Russian tags don't quite work %)Aug 12 17:51
psydread#россиа #беларусь #путин #трампAug 12 17:56
psydreadmaybe we can start a movement 🙂Aug 12 17:57
MinceRthat's #россияAug 12 17:57
psydreadoh rightAug 12 17:58
XRevan86The election was so spectacular I cannot compare it even to the Putin term reset voting. Beyond rigged.Aug 12 18:25
psydreadI think Lukashenko is good friends with RahmonAug 12 18:27
psydread 12 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Tajikistan: Fraud-ridden election hands crushing win to ruling party | EurasianetAug 12 18:27
XRevan86Don't know, but probably is.Aug 12 18:29
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psydreadhe's also been in power since 1993Aug 12 18:39
XRevan86Pretty standard for a post-Soviet state.Aug 12 18:41
XRevan86Putin came in pretty late to the partyAug 12 18:41
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scientesthumbs down mean spare his head in the Roman gamesAug 12 18:56
scientesuggh, hard to find decent info on LukasenkoAug 12 18:58
scientesok, he voted to keep the soviet unionAug 12 18:59
scientesinterestingAug 12 18:59
scientesprobably not competent then (at anything besides keeping power)Aug 12 18:59
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XRevan86 uh… what year is it?Aug 12 19:12
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scientesXRevan86, <blink> and <marquee> :)Aug 12 19:13
XRevan86The current version is 7.4 and 8.0 is in beta.Aug 12 19:13
XRevan86Suddenly we need a feature overview of PHP 7.2. And with spelling mistakes.Aug 12 19:14
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scientesIn Julia, indexing of arrays, strings, etc. is 1-based not 0-based.Aug 12 19:21
scientesoh goshAug 12 19:21
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schestowitz"Service 'COPR Build System' now has status: scheduled: Copr servers outage,"Aug 12 19:22
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XRevan86scientes: Yes, mathy languages tend to be this way.Aug 12 19:29
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DaemonFC[m]Everyone is angry about their mail being late and it's not even a partisan issue now.Aug 12 19:44
DaemonFC[m]Republicans who depend on the mail to pay bills are complaining that they're getting their late notice before the first bill even arrives.Aug 12 19:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | US sanctions: economist Yu Yongding flags risk of Chinese bank assets being seized overseas | South China Morning PostAug 12 20:00
DaemonFC[m]Oh, is that what Yu said?Aug 12 20:01
DaemonFC[m]🙂Aug 12 20:01
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Maybe when Trump gets done turning America into a third world shithole with nothing left to protect, we can have an immigration system like the Philippines.Aug 12 20:26
DaemonFC[m]"Got $30? Get the hell in there!"Aug 12 20:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cancer Treatment Centers of America Reviews | GlassdoorAug 12 22:18
DaemonFC[m]Having financial problems, laying people off, killing bonuses....Aug 12 22:18
DaemonFC[m]LOLAug 12 22:18
DaemonFC[m]The serious financial problems apparently started well before the Coronavirus.Aug 12 22:19
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DaemonFC[m]So Fox Business has their CEO, a convicted criminal and big Republican donor, on to "urge people not to skimp on their healthcare".Aug 12 22:19
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Same Fox Business who has Bill Gates as patron saint of vaccines, you know. Trying to put lipstick on Cancer Treatment Centers of America after they lied about their success rates and bilked patients.Aug 12 22:21
DaemonFC[m]It's all about the money for them, literally. If you have government insurance they don't treat you, period. If you started your cancer treatment somewhere else, they don't factor you into their survival statistics.Aug 12 22:22
DaemonFC[m]It's all about massaging the numbers. Rich people will probably have better outcomes than anyone else no matter where they go because they can afford to eat right, usually aren't stressed out to the point of smoking, etc. Aug 12 22:23
DaemonFC[m]So once you eliminate the people on Medicare and Medicaid because you don't treat them, you'll instantly have better numbers because your patients are eating right and most don't smoke.Aug 12 22:23
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DaemonFC[m]Not eating right, getting no exercise, and smoking are like a hat trick for if you want to die years early. Aug 12 22:24
DaemonFC[m]Rich people mostly avoid this and even if they don't, they can just keep paying to get patched up and drugs that paper over the bad lifestyles. Aug 12 22:25
DaemonFC[m]Of course you're going to live a lot longer if you have high blood pressure, but you get blood pressure meds and some poor person doesn't, even if your behavior is exactly the same.Aug 12 22:25
DaemonFC[m]So Trump can just eat garbage that's a sodium bomb all day long and take cholesterol drugs and blood pressure drugs and he probably will live to be at least 80, despite himself.Aug 12 22:26
DaemonFC[m]But you take someone who can't afford decent healthcare and they do the same thing, they'll fall over dead at 60.Aug 12 22:26
DaemonFC[m]The notion that access to healthcare does not change outcomes is often said by Republican politicians who want to scuttle Medicaid and Medicare, but the Oregon Medicaid Experiment that predated the Affordable Care Act showed that people who had nothing and then got Medicaid (which is something) started taking their blood pressure pills and cholesterol meds and stuff, and lived longer. What the Republicans reallyAug 12 22:28
DaemonFC[m]want to do is shut down the program so you'll die quickly and without costing the government much money.Aug 12 22:28
DaemonFC[m]----Aug 12 22:29
DaemonFC[m]Why would CTCA go from a financial crisis to front page on Fox Business?Aug 12 22:29
DaemonFC[m]Well, middle class workers are finally getting laid off en masse like what happened to factory workers 15 or 20 years ago after the Foul Trade deals.Aug 12 22:30
DaemonFC[m]The people who were like, you know, "college educated" and shit and never thought they'd lose their jobs to robots, and computer programs, and computer programs written in India and China (like Windows is now) didn't think that knocking their neighbors out of work would ever come back to haunt them.Aug 12 22:31
DaemonFC[m]Under Trump, many were getting laid off even before he brought the plague here. The Trump Plague just accelerated it. They could make all those layoffs that would normally panic the public, all at once, coordinated, and then blame the pandemic. While the Microsoft SEC reports claim that those divisions are up more than they ever could have dreamed of because of....the pandemic.Aug 12 22:32
DaemonFC[m]Cancer Treatment Centers of America being in financial dire straits is corroborated by the fact that the donations from the CEO down to the rank and file went from nearly $1 million in a presidential election year to Republicans.....down to this year, where they only gave Trump about $30,000. Aug 12 22:33
DaemonFC[m]So where do you cut when your Ponzi Scheme is coming apart? Well, Bernie Madoff was doling out money to attract attention and influence and play the game, but right before he unraveled, he stopped doing it to buy himself some time.Aug 12 22:34
DaemonFC[m]There's absolutely nothing to suggest that they gave Mitt Romney and John McCain about a million bucks each and now suddenly they're only able to come up with $30,000 for Trump because they all stopped being Republicans.Aug 12 22:35
DaemonFC[m]If you ask me, this smells an awful lot like we're months away from the FBI in there hauling boxes out after the shredding party. But that's just my general "sniff test" answer.Aug 12 22:36
DaemonFC[m]$30,000 isn't enough to Trump to keep the FBI from investigating an accounting scandal, so they might be in trouble. Again, just a guess.Aug 12 22:38
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Looks like this all started happening to the employees at least around early January.Aug 12 22:42
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schestowitz"low-risk offender"Aug 12 22:42
DaemonFC[m]After that a bunch of pissed off angry people everywhere from lab techs to RNs to everything really saying their bonuses and raises and retirement plan was taken away.Aug 12 22:42
DaemonFC[m]Massive layoffs.Aug 12 22:42
DaemonFC[m]Maybe "Marisol" will be next.Aug 12 22:43
DaemonFC[m]Failing to report? Who? Himself? You can't charge a person with failing to report themselves for having committed a crime, unless they were on probation or parole already.Aug 12 22:44
DaemonFC[m]Fifth Amendment.Aug 12 22:44
schestowitzyupAug 12 22:45
schestowitzweirdAug 12 22:45
schestowitzcan you open the seattle pi report?Aug 12 22:45
schestowitzI cannot here, it's blocked in the EUAug 12 22:45
schestowitzis that text from that articleAug 12 22:45
DaemonFC[m]"Low risk offender following a psych eval."Aug 12 22:46
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I got my psychiatrist to tell them my medication had stabilized me.Aug 12 22:46
DaemonFC[m]I hinted that they might have to call him in as a witness.Aug 12 22:46
DaemonFC[m]So he wrote the note to spare himself having to take a day off to come to another county and go to court over me.Aug 12 22:46
DaemonFC[m]Once I handed it to my probation officer, the treatment plan became "Do what you're already doing, then, I guess.".Aug 12 22:47
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Using psychiatry on a psychiatrist. PERCEPTION 100Aug 12 22:48
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DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "is that text from that article"> Seattle PI report?Aug 12 22:49
cybrNautabout 1 in 3 ppl don't report bugs when the bug tracker is hard to access or hosted by an unethical tech giant (MS Github)  -- survey results: 12 22:49
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DaemonFC[m]Oh, above that.Aug 12 22:49
schestowitzyeahAug 12 22:49
DaemonFC[m]90 days in jail!?!?!?Aug 12 22:50
DaemonFC[m]WTF!!!!! Disorderly Conduct is 30!Aug 12 22:50
DaemonFC[m]The guy had tens of thousands of child porn files.Aug 12 22:50
DaemonFC[m]He was distributing them.Aug 12 22:50
schestowitzcybrNaut: good findAug 12 22:51
DaemonFC[m]You're telling me he did B misdemeanor time for several serioes felonies. Aug 12 22:51
DaemonFC[m]*seriousAug 12 22:51
schestowitzyupAug 12 22:51
schestowitzis that in the article?Aug 12 22:51
DaemonFC[m]A B Misdemeanor can be a lot of things. In Indiana, it's a first time offense for being caught with a pipe with THC residue on it (but not marijuana itself).Aug 12 22:51
DaemonFC[m]So that's basically 90 days in jail.Aug 12 22:52
schestowitzmaybe he had a good (well-connected) lawyerAug 12 22:52
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, it's in the article. 90 days in county.Aug 12 22:52
DaemonFC[m]He didn't even do it in state prison.Aug 12 22:52
schestowitzmaybe the judge wasn't rightAug 12 22:52
schestowitzno, not even in the offenders listAug 12 22:52
DaemonFC[m]County is nothing. I've been in county. Fuck county. That's basically where they send people for doing stupid shit who are not all that dangerous.Aug 12 22:53
DaemonFC[m]An OWI can get you like a month or two in county sometimes.Aug 12 22:53
schestowitzMaybe he even went back to work for BillAug 12 22:53
DaemonFC[m]So he's in there with drunk drivers and people who had a single marijuana cigarette.Aug 12 22:53
schestowitzwe don't know..Aug 12 22:53
DaemonFC[m]Your life is generally in danger if they send you to state prison.Aug 12 22:54
DaemonFC[m]That's where the hardcore offenders go.Aug 12 22:54
DaemonFC[m]They set him up for 90 days of "Sit there and read a book and then shower and eat a meal with the drunk drivers.".Aug 12 22:54
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: That's all a weekend in jail really was.Aug 12 22:55
DaemonFC[m]Read a book and come out to shower and eat a meal now and then.Aug 12 22:55
DaemonFC[m]It was so retarded. Then when I get out to go talk to the judge, he gives me time served (the weekend) and says "You're on unsupervised probation for 12 months.".Aug 12 22:55
DaemonFC[m]So I asked my lawyer "Do I need to pay someone?". He says nope. "Do I need to talk to anyone?" nope. He goes, "Just don't get caught doing anything for a year and you're good."Aug 12 22:56
DaemonFC[m]I'm seriously offended that Rick Jones didn't get at least 2-3 years in state prison over that.Aug 12 22:57
DaemonFC[m]That's standard really, with probation and sex offender registry waiting when you get out.Aug 12 22:57
DaemonFC[m]Your life is destroyed. You'll be lucky to work at Taco Bell.Aug 12 22:57
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The prosecutor can only bring up prior bad acts if they were a conviction.Aug 12 22:58
schestowitzBTW, no reply from TSAAug 12 22:58
schestowitznot even autoreponderAug 12 22:58
DaemonFC[m]They can see that you were on supervision before, but they can't mention it during a trial. Aug 12 22:58
DaemonFC[m]It's considered hearsay since the court did not reach a finding of guilt.Aug 12 22:59
DaemonFC[m]Supervision is like a bomb that can only explode if you get in trouble again while you're on supervision. Aug 12 22:59
DaemonFC[m]Generally, if you clean yourself up a bit and get a decent lawyer and don't fight it too much, they charge you court fees and tell you to get the hell out as long as it was petty.Aug 12 23:00
DaemonFC[m]I've never heard of 90 days in county and no registry for massive quantities of CP. That's totally new.Aug 12 23:00
DaemonFC[m]The law in Illinois allows for anywhere from 1-3 years per file.Aug 12 23:01
DaemonFC[m]It doesn't say anything about how many charges the prosecutor can bring.Aug 12 23:01
DaemonFC[m]If you have 10,000 files, they can charge you with 10,000 counts.Aug 12 23:01
DaemonFC[m]They could send you to prison for 30,000 years.Aug 12 23:01
DaemonFC[m]Although with good behavior you might only do 15,000.Aug 12 23:02
schestowitzGates precedence ...Aug 12 23:02
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: If you were convicted of something like that, you may never want to leave prison, honestly.Aug 12 23:03
DaemonFC[m]It'll be so hard to find a job and a place to live that maybe you're better off with a life sentence.Aug 12 23:03
DaemonFC[m]The only reason it hasn't affected my cousin's husband that much is because he won't work anyway. Never has since they got married.Aug 12 23:03
schestowitzso what to make of it?Aug 12 23:04
DaemonFC[m]So he gets out and not much changes. He can't go to the park or live near a school. Aug 12 23:04
schestowitzsince this is already public record...Aug 12 23:04
schestowitzwe would not report anything that isn't already known to an eager searcherAug 12 23:04
DaemonFC[m]I'd be very interested in what he's doing now.Aug 12 23:04
schestowitzmaybe find outAug 12 23:04
DaemonFC[m]This has sweatheart deal written all over it.Aug 12 23:04
schestowitzsome ask me if he still works for BillAug 12 23:04
schestowitzhe pled guiltyAug 12 23:05
DaemonFC[m]If his name wasn't in the news, nobody would ever really know probably.Aug 12 23:05
DaemonFC[m]Expungement laws vary by state.Aug 12 23:05
DaemonFC[m]Generally for felony charges like that, 90 days is below the minimum sentence.Aug 12 23:05
DaemonFC[m]So they must have bumped it to something less.Aug 12 23:05
DaemonFC[m]Felonies don't go to county unless they're so low level that they can result in less than 364 days served. Aug 12 23:06
DaemonFC[m]So you might be in there with a car thief, but not a child pornographer.Aug 12 23:06
DaemonFC[m]"Jones quietly pleaded guilty to related charges on Friday and was sentenced to 90 days in King County Jail, as well as two years of probation. Jones is now required to register as a sex offender and to stay away from children unless certain conditions are met."Aug 12 23:07
DaemonFC[m]Okay, so he is on the registry.Aug 12 23:07
DaemonFC[m]Well, they can generally give you probation instead of prison as part of your sentence, but you usually get a lot more probation time than prison time.Aug 12 23:08
DaemonFC[m]My attorney told me the worst sentence that was likely to come down was 1 year of supervised probation on the original charges, "But you have to be concerned with what a conviction and those charges will say about you if anyone looks. If you take this deal, it goes down to a C misdemeanor disorderly conduct and you can legally say you've never been convicted of anything.".Aug 12 23:09
DaemonFC[m]So Rick's life may be more affected by being on the registry than the rest of that sentence. Aug 12 23:10
DaemonFC[m]As long as he made his probation meetings.Aug 12 23:10
DaemonFC[m]They are pretty humiliating though, honestly.Aug 12 23:10
DaemonFC[m]They're meant to destroy your sense of self-worth. Aug 12 23:11
DaemonFC[m]Very annoying. The idea of being in constant dangers, so the idea goes, makes obeying the law second nature when you are released.Aug 12 23:11
DaemonFC[m]Any sort of contact with the police could mean you're back in court over this shit again because you got a traffic ticket. Aug 12 23:12
DaemonFC[m]You have to go into the office like it was airport security. You have to check in on a form stating under perjury that you haven't had any police contact, that you still live at an approved address, and you don't have any weapons, and tell them who you live with.Aug 12 23:13
DaemonFC[m]They'll give you a good chewing out about how you can't change your phone number or move without their permission.Aug 12 23:13
DaemonFC[m]Then each month you have to report what you're doing with your time, how your marriage is going, have you used any drugs. Then they make you pee in front of them.Aug 12 23:14
DaemonFC[m]If it's just misdemeanor, you get to go home for another month before your next appointment. If you miss an appointment, they can issue an arrest warrant, even if it was because your car broke down.Aug 12 23:15
DaemonFC[m]Because everyone says "car trouble".Aug 12 23:15
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schestowitzgrep jones  /var/log/httpd/ | wcAug 12 23:15
schestowitz  77345 1812627 19362196Aug 12 23:15
schestowitzThe articles we did are receiving attention this weekAug 12 23:16
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: he cannot be sound on the register/registryAug 12 23:16
schestowitzany of themAug 12 23:16
schestowitzcontrary to what the court orderedAug 12 23:16
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: look up the registryAug 12 23:27
schestowitzsomeone who checked told me he's not in itAug 12 23:27
schestowitzif he's not in it, then we can make formal inquiriesAug 12 23:27
schestowitzlet them squirm a bitAug 12 23:27
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schestowitzwhite pussy, orange pussyAug 12 23:41
schestowitzMinceR: your cats?Aug 12 23:42
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: You have to register where you live.Aug 12 23:52
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