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| DaemonFC[m] | If you have it, there's no treatment. All you get is a quarantine order and the state wants to know where you've been and who you talked to and stuff. | Sep 12 00:00 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | More ammo for Immigration, even though they say they don't consider it a negative. Since when have they told the truth about anything? | Sep 12 00:00 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Certainly not under Trump. | Sep 12 00:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: They haven't checked my credit. | Sep 12 00:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Probably a good thing. | Sep 12 00:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I hurried up and filed bankruptcy in case they do. It's bad, but not as bad as $100,000 of debt hanging over you where they can say "Yep yep, that's unstable. | Sep 12 00:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Say what you want. There's no debt now. | Sep 12 00:02 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I read an article last night where a woman made about $80,000 a year, and piled up $27,000 of credit card debt and she said her mortgage was $2,350 a month, and she had a car payment and medical bills. | Sep 12 00:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Was wondering if she should file bankruptcy or try to negotiate. | Sep 12 00:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They wrote like 10 paragraphs when the right answer was "File bankruptcy.". | Sep 12 00:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You're never going to get a mess like that under control and even in liquidation they have to let you keep 1 car for the household and they have to let you keep your house if you live in it and the mortgage (if any) is current. | Sep 12 00:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So at the least, it would take out over $30,000 in credit cards and some medical debt and then she may be in a better position to keep the house and car. | Sep 12 00:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The hell does she mean "I was wondering if I should?". | Sep 12 00:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | $2,350 on a mortgage though and makes $80 grand a year. That's. Wow. That's bad. | Sep 12 00:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Single and a $2,350 mortgage kind of screams too much house to me. | Sep 12 00:07 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.wonkette.com/next-cdc-coronavirus-report-gonna-tell-all-schools-to-open-restaurants | Sep 12 00:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Next CDC Coronavirus Recs Gonna Tell All Elementary Schools To Open Restaurants - Wonkette | Sep 12 00:09 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wouldn't want to go higher than I had to on a mortgage because it's not just the mortgage. It's the upkeep, homeowners insurance (which goes up if anything happens), and property taxes (government always wants more). | Sep 12 00:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Why not lock yourself into decades of that? | Sep 12 00:09 |
| schestowitz__ | Ariadne: Bottlerocket is competition to Alpine, correct? | Sep 12 00:10 |
| Ariadne | i don't think so | Sep 12 00:10 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/amazon/bottlerocket-awss-new-linux-distro-containers | Sep 12 00:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datacenterknowledge.com | Bottlerocket: AWS's New Linux Distro for Containers | Data Center Knowledge | Sep 12 00:10 | |
| Ariadne | its for running containers | Sep 12 00:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think my parents were paying almost $300 a month on homeowner's insurance and that was in Indiana in the 90s. | Sep 12 00:11 |
| Ariadne | i guess in some ways it is a competitor | Sep 12 00:11 |
| Ariadne | but alpine is a general-scope top level distribution | Sep 12 00:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The mortgage requires it and if you drop it when you own the house, someone can just trespass and hurt themselves and then sue you. | Sep 12 00:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But whatever. You've got thirty years of mortgage where it's not optional. | Sep 12 00:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I'm sure her real cost of owning a house with a $2,350 mortgage is closer to $3,300 a month, and at that point it's oppressive. More than half her income. | Sep 12 00:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You want your housing costs to be low. Preferably no more than 1/3rd of your income. | Sep 12 00:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most landlords won't even consider you unless you make at least 2.5 times rent. | Sep 12 00:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can't imagine that's gotten better with the Coronavirus. If they move anyone new in there they could immediately stop paying the rent and claim eviction protection for who knows how long. | Sep 12 00:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now's really not the time to try to get an apartment. Mom doesn't get that. | Sep 12 00:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not having evictions going is preventing landlords from renting out available apartment to people who need housing. | Sep 12 00:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's causing homelessness because people can't find anywhere to live in the first place while other people who aren't even applying for rent assistance are refusing to leave. | Sep 12 00:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's numerous disasters that the "news" simply will not talk about. | Sep 12 00:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everyone knows it. That's why confidence in the "news" is at an all time low. | Sep 12 00:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It doesn't matter what they say. 4/5 people won't believe them. | Sep 12 00:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/09/11/911885577/as-covid-19-vaccine-trials-move-at-warp-speed-recruiting-black-volunteers-takes | Sep 12 00:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Vaccine Trials Are At 'Warp Speed.' But Minority Recruitment Isn't : Shots - Health News : NPR | Sep 12 00:22 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: MOAR BLACKS! | Sep 12 00:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Gates told them to say that the syphilis experiments are over. | Sep 12 00:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :) | Sep 12 00:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's important that the doctors doing the asking look like the people they're appealing to, she says. | Sep 12 00:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "It's racial concordance," she explains. "It offers this feeling of, 'you know who I am, you know where I come from, you have my best interests at heart.' " | Sep 12 00:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: Gates is using black doctors as meatpuppets, in other words. | Sep 12 00:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People will do anything for money. There are even gay Republicans. | Sep 12 00:24 |
| oiaohm | So lack of DNA diversity? | Sep 12 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Absentee ballot requests i nNorth Carolina and Florida have overwhelmingly favored Democrats so far. | Sep 12 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This could be what Kevin McCarthy was afraid of. | Sep 12 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Democrats vote in droves with absentee ballots and then Republicans put it off and either get sick or die or can't vote because they're old and terrified of going out to the polls and they live in a state that took Trump's advice. | Sep 12 00:29 |
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| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: NPR is bribed by Gates | Sep 12 01:00 |
| schestowitz__ | and now pushes his marketing re COVID | Sep 12 01:00 |
| schestowitz__ | while demonising his critics | Sep 12 01:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Sep 12 01:00 |
| schestowitz__ | NPR was corrupted by him | Sep 12 01:00 |
| schestowitz__ | does this article mention him? | Sep 12 01:00 |
| schestowitz__ | It's blocked in the EU | Sep 12 01:00 |
| schestowitz__ | as NPR now violates GDPR | Sep 12 01:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Gaslighting. There's nothing wrong with this vaccine. You're thinking of the syphilis experiments. This is totally ethical. We have paid off the black doctors and everything! | Sep 12 01:01 |
| schestowitz__ | doesn't mean it's not a profitable sector of Gates too | Sep 12 01:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz__ "as NPR now violates GDPR"> Violate it back! | Sep 12 01:01 |
| schestowitz__ | via his investments e.g. gsk | Sep 12 01:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm trying to gather the stuff to make Bhindi Masala in the instant pot. | Sep 12 01:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think I'm going to use canned diced chiles and tomatoes. Shortcut. | Sep 12 01:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Food pantry gave me a one pound bag of frozen okra. I was trying to figure out what to do with it. This sounds good (relatively cheap too, never hurts). | Sep 12 01:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: The CDC bizarrely now says restaurants are especially dangerous. | Sep 12 01:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't mention churches where people don't wear masks and sit right next to each other. | Sep 12 01:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The churches have cost this country probably over $500 billion in COVID-19 medical expenses. Easily. Nobody will ever report that. If Sturgis Motorcycle Rally was $12.6 billion hit to public health, what are churches that meet every week, multiple times, in every state? | Sep 12 01:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Will the churches pay for the damage they've done? Of course not. | Sep 12 01:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At least restaurants hire people, pay taxes, and serve a purpose (socialize and splurge on something now and then). | Sep 12 01:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: This pandemic wouldn't have hit the economy this hard back in the Depression Era, I'd imagine. | Sep 12 01:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People learned to do things for themselves. Cooked at home. Sewed clothing out of potato and flour sacks... | Sep 12 01:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There was a real economy (industry, not just expensive coffee and hipsters drinking craft beer). | Sep 12 01:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There was an economy that produced things to rebound after the war. | Sep 12 01:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A bank making money out of nothing so that hipsters can drink and put it in Tesla stock over Robin Hood is a sick joke. | Sep 12 01:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But that's what things are now. | Sep 12 01:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody has any idea what they're doing on Robin Hood. | Sep 12 01:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A 20 year old killed himself because he was poking around with "options" and thought he owed $790,000. | Sep 12 01:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/19/business/robinhood-suicide-alex-kearns/index.html | Sep 12 01:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apparent suicide by 20-year-old Robinhood trader who saw a negative $730,000 balance prompts app to make changes - CNN | Sep 12 01:12 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Threw himself in front of a Metra train. | Sep 12 01:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody really does know what they're investing in these days, and that's scary. | Sep 12 01:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not just exotic "options" trades or things like that. Stocks and bonds don't make any sense at all anymore. | Sep 12 01:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: I see a lot of serious problems with this company. | Sep 12 01:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Regulators must be completely asleep at the wheel with this thing. | Sep 12 01:21 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-54088118 | Sep 12 02:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Coronavirus: England's hotspots in maps - BBC News | Sep 12 02:44 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://www.smartcompany.com.au/startupsmart/advice/startupsmart-growth/what-to-do-when-your-biggest-friend-is-also-a-foe-a-lesson-from-mozilla-control-shift-2/ | Sep 12 03:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smartcompany.com.au | What to do when your biggest friend is also a foe – a lesson from Mozilla - SmartCompany | Sep 12 03:25 | |
| schestowitz__ | "This past week Mozilla, the developer of the popular Firefox web browser amongst a number of other products, announced that Yahoo!, rather than Google, will become the company’s default search index in the US. In China, the default search engine will be Baidu, it will be Yandex in Russia, and it will remain as Google in all other markets." | Sep 12 03:25 |
| schestowitz__ | Microsoft-controlled Yahoo at the time | Sep 12 03:26 |
| schestowitz__ | https://comhumanitesnanterre.wordpress.com/2017/10/10/mitchell-baker-portrait-dune-innovatrice-du-web/ | Sep 12 03:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-comhumanitesnanterre.wordpress.com | Mitchell Baker: Portrait d’une innovatrice du Web – Le blog des étudiants en CPO | Sep 12 03:27 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.aunbizdata.com/news/read/ceo-of-mozilla-resigned-from-office | Sep 12 03:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed connect to www.aunbizdata.com:443; Connection refused ( status 0 @ https://www.aunbizdata.com/news/read/ceo-of-mozilla-resigned-from-office ) | Sep 12 03:28 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-mozilla-ceo-resigns-under-fire-prop-8-20140403-story.html | Sep 12 03:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.latimes.com | Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich resigns under fire for supporting Prop. 8 - Los Angeles Times | Sep 12 03:28 | |
| schestowitz__ | wow, that choice of photo... | Sep 12 03:29 |
| schestowitz__ | Eyes shut https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mozilla-chief-steps-down-after-controversial-donation-causes-uproar/ | Sep 12 03:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbsnews.com | Mozilla chief steps down after controversial donation causes uproar - CBS News | Sep 12 03:29 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.alphr.com/news/357898/john-lilly-to-step-down-as-mozilla-chief-executive/ | Sep 12 03:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alphr.com | John Lilly to step down as Mozilla chief executive | Sep 12 03:30 | |
| *schestowitz__ researches something... | Sep 12 03:30 | |
| schestowitz__ | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2006/11/13/wired-interview/ | Sep 12 03:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » My Wired Interview | Sep 12 03:30 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.idgconnect.com/idgconnect/news/1003030/mozilla-ceo-brendan-eich-resigns-amid-controversy-anti-gay-marriage-support | Sep 12 03:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.idgconnect.com | NO TITLE | Sep 12 03:32 | |
| schestowitz__ | BTW, afaik brave is freesw | Sep 12 03:33 |
| schestowitz__ | I am not sure what licence | Sep 12 03:33 |
| schestowitz__ | and the code it bases the browser on it typically scraped to make proprietary web browsers | Sep 12 03:33 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: 1100 or so more us covid19 deaths | Sep 12 03:34 |
| schestowitz__ | it'll be 200k total next week | Sep 12 03:34 |
| schestowitz__ | belgium 1000 more cases | Sep 12 03:34 |
| schestowitz__ | for about 10 million people | Sep 12 03:34 |
| schestowitz__ | that's like 33k in the US is weighted accordingly (per capita) | Sep 12 03:35 |
| schestowitz__ | [old] https://www.inventiva.co.in/trends/surbhi/pentagon-asks-court-for-time-to-reconsider-jedi-award-to-microsoft/ | Sep 12 03:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.inventiva.co.in | Pentagon Asks Court For Time To Reconsider JEDI Award To Microsoft | Inventiva | Sep 12 03:43 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/Sensjossjoke1/status/1304567185931726850 | Sep 12 04:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sensjossjoke1: Interessante linkjes 💥💥 https://t.co/QEgK8xbKlx https://t.co/LNcRNfNzUo | Sep 12 04:03 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFQw5wGWt6w | Sep 12 04:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Richard Stallman en Guadalajara | Linux Cabal - YouTube | Sep 12 04:10 | |
| schestowitz__ | seems to be this year | Sep 12 04:11 |
| schestowitz__ | before covid | Sep 12 04:11 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7yU4WSsvoc | Sep 12 04:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Richard Stallman, el mesías del software libre!!!! - YouTube | Sep 12 04:12 | |
| schestowitz__ | Spanish | Sep 12 04:12 |
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| schestowitz__ | No indication that this is new though | Sep 12 04:18 |
| schestowitz__ | he canceled his trips to Spain | Sep 12 04:18 |
| schestowitz__ | due to covid | Sep 12 04:18 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | LOL Family Guy. | Sep 12 04:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Lois says they should watch bad movies. Brian says he'll go find a copy of Vanilla Sky, and she says "I said a bad movie, not an abortion.". | Sep 12 04:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I fell asleep at the movies for that. | Sep 12 04:44 |
| schestowitz__ | that's a good way to waste money | Sep 12 04:47 |
| schestowitz__ | then you say something to yourself like, "well, at least I enjoyed that sleep" | Sep 12 04:47 |
| schestowitz__ | (and watched some minutes of the movie... don''t know what happened at the end) | Sep 12 04:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was there with my dad. I think I've only slept through like 2-3 movies in my life. | Sep 12 04:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | One was Inception. | Sep 12 04:49 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkOZf6Lphrw | Sep 12 04:53 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1150899069076201472?focusedCommentUrn=urn:comment:1150899069076201472:0:0:0:1150899934703505408 | Sep 12 05:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-35.5% of the world's "active" #covid19 cases are now in t... | Minds | Sep 12 05:05 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Sep 12 05:05 |
| schestowitz__ | Death by medical bills! | Sep 12 05:05 |
| schestowitz__ | Only $20,000 per night's stay. Great deal, much value! | Sep 12 05:05 |
| schestowitz__ | Visit today! | Sep 12 05:05 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Sep 12 05:05 |
| schestowitz__ | "Covid has a 99.96% risk of survival. Here's a tip: probably don't go to the hospital for something you are most likely going to survive. If you have risk factors, or are elderly - then we can talk about relief for your medical bills." | Sep 12 05:05 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz__: Australia Covid19 survival numbers is 98-99 percent. So not quite a good as 99.96. But that not where covid-19 ends. https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/covid-19-can-cause-heart-problems-for-survivors-ca You have between 15-30 percent change being stuck with a heart condition. | Sep 12 05:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www1.racgp.org.au | RACGP - COVID-19 can cause heart problems for survivors: Cardiologist | Sep 12 05:35 | |
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| schestowitz__ | oiaohm: yes, I know | Sep 12 05:37 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz__: if you don't go to hospital you most likely want a decent medical performed after having covid-19 just to make sure you don't have any of the other problems. | Sep 12 05:37 |
| schestowitz__ | and also it mutates and people can be re-infected | Sep 12 05:37 |
| schestowitz__ | moreover, if many people get it, hospitals become overwhelmed | Sep 12 05:37 |
| schestowitz__ | and reinfection by peer means it's harder to overcome | Sep 12 05:37 |
| schestowitz__ | that's when you have thousands dying per day | Sep 12 05:37 |
| schestowitz__ | lack of capacity | Sep 12 05:37 |
| oiaohm | Lack of spread control also is part of the reason for thousands per day. | Sep 12 05:38 |
| oiaohm | Australia death rate from covid-19 is where you would expect with perfect capacity. Australian system has not been overwhelmed. | Sep 12 05:42 |
| oiaohm | 1-2 percent dead from covid-19 across most populations is what you would expect if medical perfect. Now places that let there medical system get over run that would go to Australian ICU numbers . Those in ICU would have between 50%-100% chance of death without medical intervention. That gives a max death number for covid-19 somewhere between 6% to 13% from ICU numbers. | Sep 12 05:48 |
| oiaohm | 1 to 2 percent death does not sound that bad when you compare it to the 6 to 13% possible if you don't have a functional medical system. | Sep 12 05:49 |
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| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: in falkon can you import history from firefox? | Sep 12 05:59 |
| schestowitz__ | never mind bookmarks | Sep 12 05:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't know. It was in Fedora by default. | Sep 12 05:59 |
| schestowitz__ | I see import bookmarks | Sep 12 06:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've been using Vivaldi. | Sep 12 06:00 |
| schestowitz__ | places.sqllite | Sep 12 06:00 |
| schestowitz__ | it cannot even parse it | Sep 12 06:00 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: vivaldi is proprietary | Sep 12 06:01 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe worse than chromium in that regard | Sep 12 06:01 |
| schestowitz__ | "No query Unable to fetch row" | Sep 12 06:02 |
| schestowitz__ | They need to test more | Sep 12 06:02 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe it was compatible with old FF versions | Sep 12 06:02 |
| schestowitz__ | there is no import history option | Sep 12 06:03 |
| schestowitz__ | hmmm.. wait, I suppose I could just use firefox for references | Sep 12 06:04 |
| schestowitz__ | but writing blog posts using two browsers in tandem is a tad odd | Sep 12 06:04 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: support falkon | Sep 12 06:07 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: not sure if you saw it: | Sep 12 06:08 |
| schestowitz__ | [18:45] [Notice] -viera to #techrights- Tux Machines: What we can learn from Plasma telemetry http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142001 [https://pleroma.site/objects/140ee76c-bec0-445f-9c34-649c7bb3b3a4] | Sep 12 06:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What we can learn from Plasma telemetry | Tux Machines | Sep 12 06:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Sep 12 06:08 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Sep 12 06:09 |
| schestowitz__ | Since Plasma 5.18, about 7 months ago, Plasma has shipped with a telemetry system. Opt in (i.e off by default) it requires users to go to choose if (and how much) data to send to us. | Sep 12 06:09 |
| schestowitz__ | No private or identifying information is sent, and everything is stored inline with our privacy policy. | Sep 12 06:09 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Sep 12 06:09 |
| schestowitz__ | Maybe one day they'll switch that on | Sep 12 06:09 |
| schestowitz__ | like kate did | Sep 12 06:09 |
| schestowitz__ | wow, digg is so dea | Sep 12 06:10 |
| schestowitz__ | dead | Sep 12 06:10 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.digg.com/ | Sep 12 06:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Digg - What the Internet is talking about right now | Sep 12 06:10 | |
| schestowitz__ | 1 digg, 3 diggs | Sep 12 06:10 |
| schestowitz__ | in front page | Sep 12 06:10 |
| schestowitz__ | http://www.groklaw.net/newsitems.php | Sep 12 06:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.groklaw.net/newsitems.php ) | Sep 12 06:11 | |
| schestowitz__ | " | Sep 12 06:11 |
| schestowitz__ | Not Found | Sep 12 06:11 |
| schestowitz__ | The requested URL /newsitems.php was not found on this server. | Sep 12 06:11 |
| schestowitz__ | Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. | Sep 12 06:11 |
| schestowitz__ | "\ | Sep 12 06:11 |
| schestowitz__ | Ouch, it's just a static site now | Sep 12 06:11 |
| schestowitz__ | apparently | Sep 12 06:11 |
| schestowitz__ | if you click on comments: http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20130815114627670&title=Last+Article-+Email%3F+Look+to+Freedom+Box%2C+Jitsi%2C+or+Retroshare%2C+or+encrypted+Peer+to+Peer+email.&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=1057988#c1058166 | Sep 12 06:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20130815114627670&title=Last+Article-+Email%3F+Look+to+Freedom+Box%2C+Jitsi%2C+or+Retroshare%2C+or+encrypted+Peer+to+Peer+email.&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=1057988#c1058166 ) | Sep 12 06:11 | |
| schestowitz__ | so many comments are no longer visible!! | Sep 12 06:12 |
| schestowitz__ | bad way to archive a site, pj! | Sep 12 06:12 |
| schestowitz__ | Seems like some comments can still be accessed, e.g. http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20130531131600482&title=Ubuntu+marks+%27bug+1%27+resolved%2C+Microsoft+no+longer+holds+majority+market+share&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=1046287#c1046337 | Sep 12 06:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.groklaw.net | Groklaw - Digging for Truth | Sep 12 06:13 | |
| schestowitz__ | oh, it links to static pages | Sep 12 06:13 |
| schestowitz__ | http://groklawstatic.ibiblio.org/comment.php%3Fmode=display&sid=20130531131600482&title=That%27s+one+of++the+lessons&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=1046464#c1046517 | Sep 12 06:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-groklawstatic.ibiblio.org | Groklaw - Digging for Truth | Sep 12 06:13 | |
| schestowitz__ | note domain | Sep 12 06:14 |
| schestowitz__ | http://groklawstatic.ibiblio.org | Sep 12 06:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-groklawstatic.ibiblio.org | Groklaw - Digging for Truth | Sep 12 06:14 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.alllinuxdevices.com/ is officially dead now | Sep 12 06:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed connect to www.alllinuxdevices.com:443; Connection refused ( status 0 @ https://www.alllinuxdevices.com/ ) | Sep 12 06:14 | |
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| schestowitz__ | and "Linux Planet" redirects to Linux Today | Sep 12 06:14 |
| schestowitz__ | so much Internet rot... | Sep 12 06:15 |
| schestowitz__ | Linux Electron offline | Sep 12 06:15 |
| schestowitz__ | I used to contribute to them | Sep 12 06:15 |
| schestowitz__ | Propeller redirects to AOL | Sep 12 06:15 |
| schestowitz__ | OK, I think I'm more or less settled with Falkon for everything now, except Firefox for browsing history to fetch references by autocomplete in address bar | Sep 12 06:21 |
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| schestowitz__ | LOL "techbros" | Sep 12 07:36 |
| schestowitz__ | new term | Sep 12 07:36 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ_amRFVrbA | Sep 12 07:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Doesn't Suck. Techbros Do. - YouTube | Sep 12 07:36 | |
| schestowitz__ | how to portray ego and principles as "bros" | Sep 12 07:36 |
| schestowitz__ | or chauvinistic | Sep 12 07:36 |
| schestowitz__ | but inferences associated with the term | Sep 12 07:36 |
| schestowitz__ | gender has not or anything to do with it | Sep 12 07:36 |
| schestowitz__ | wrong states that RMS defended what happened | Sep 12 07:37 |
| schestowitz__ | the opposite is true | Sep 12 07:37 |
| schestowitz__ | but the media never corrected itself | Sep 12 07:37 |
| schestowitz__ | "open source"... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVef9bgmWaY | Sep 12 07:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-2020 - Open Source und die EU - YouTube | Sep 12 07:41 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrVayqOHbZw | Sep 12 07:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Brian Aker asks Richard Stallman about MySQL and the GPL at foss.my 2009 - YouTube | Sep 12 07:48 | |
| schestowitz__ | he handles Brian Aker very well | Sep 12 07:50 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3R94TJ6xU8 | Sep 12 07:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RE: Are Richard Stallman and Linus Torvalds Good for Linux? - YouTube | Sep 12 07:58 | |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/18979238#c6d93700d6f00138a87f047d7b62795e | Sep 12 09:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Getting Censored by #Debian and #Mozilla for Talking About Human Rights http://techrights.org/2020/09/11/debian-human-rights/ #censorship #un | Sep 12 09:06 | |
| schestowitz__ | "Mozilla also has a Huge problem if we talk about incompentece of their webassembly frameworks, block and ban is their mainstream policy" | Sep 12 09:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Getting Censored by Debian and Mozilla for Talking About Human Rights | Techrights | Sep 12 09:06 | |
| schestowitz__ | censorship | Sep 12 09:06 |
| schestowitz__ | for 'justice' | Sep 12 09:06 |
| schestowitz__ | the stupid so-called 'liberal' approach | Sep 12 09:06 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG4HrOpzQXY | Sep 12 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Richard Stallman debates animal rights activist at Penn - YouTube | Sep 12 09:15 | |
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| MinceR | 12 083618 < schestowitz__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ_amRFVrbA | Sep 12 11:53 |
| MinceR | why promote such crybully bullshit? | Sep 12 11:53 |
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| MinceR | (cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/06/9d4e1e6106fa4038.jpg | Sep 12 13:18 |
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| schestowitz__ | [11:53] <MinceR> why promote such crybully bullshit? | Sep 12 13:27 |
| schestowitz__ | I did not know I "promoted" him | Sep 12 13:27 |
| schestowitz__ | [13:18] <MinceR> (cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/06/9d4e1e6106fa4038.jpg | Sep 12 13:28 |
| schestowitz__ | Why promote such a couple of shit buckets? :-D | Sep 12 13:28 |
| MinceR | no shit buckets found | Sep 12 13:32 |
| schestowitz__ | https://twitter.com/michpoligal/status/1304202299896729600 | Sep 12 13:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-No status found with that ID. | Sep 12 13:33 | |
| schestowitz__ | deleted | Sep 12 13:33 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://thegrayzone.com/2020/09/11/challenging-war-pelosi-shahid-buttar-assange-latin-america-palestine | Sep 12 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thegrayzone.com | Challenging pro-war Pelosi: candidate Shahid Buttar on Assange, Latin America, & Palestine | The Grayzone | Sep 12 13:56 | |
| schestowitz__ | https://thegrayzone.com/2020/09/11/us-govt-democrat-troll-bolivian-mexico-venezuela/ | Sep 12 13:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thegrayzone.com | US govt & Democrat-tied troll farm boosts Bolivian coup regime, meddles in Mexico, Venezuela | The Grayzone | Sep 12 13:56 | |
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| Mogzagain | Hi again and sorry but again must rush, but saw the post about CTT vid. | Sep 12 14:55 |
| Mogzagain | CTT first says linux wouldn't exist without rms and linus; but later says rms/linus not good for mainstream. Two thirds of his channel is non-linux/proprietary, so prob viewers more into tech than solely linux, possibly ppl who want linux mainstream/corporate, so if he's saying rms/linus not good for mainstream, that's sidelining them as not good to continue with. I'd call him a tech person, not a linux advocate. Like lunduke and matt, the former | Sep 12 14:55 |
| Mogzagain | who was checking out running windows, and said he'll go there if linux folds, and matt something similar, the only way real linux can be safeguarded is if people in the public's view actually champion it. really disappointing that nobody public steps up fully. | Sep 12 14:55 |
| Mogzagain | Still watch STL, as he does care about personal privacy a lot, but the live weekly thing was getting tiresome, with guests etc on and on about windows and other proprietary. | Sep 12 14:57 |
| Mogzagain | Yes, sometimes CTT etc say something good about privacy or linux, but it's disappointing that there's so much of the other stuff involved. | Sep 12 14:58 |
| Mogzagain | What with the news, or this stuff on the linux side, better to do other things, lol. Anyway, seems nobody's in, and will need to go. Have a good day. | Sep 12 14:59 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20012612 | Sep 12 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4310258) | Sep 12 16:11 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://independentamericancommunities.com/2019/03/16/hoa-realities-living-next-to-a-retention-pond-or-wetland/ | Sep 12 17:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-independentamericancommunities.com | HOA Realities — living next to a retention pond or wetland • IAC | Sep 12 17:05 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was not sorry that I read this. | Sep 12 17:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was looking at the retaining pond at the industrial park and was like "Yeah, I could see these going horribly wrong in the suburbs.". | Sep 12 17:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The developers don't care what happens after they sell all the homes back there. | Sep 12 17:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you find that your retention pond starts becoming a persistent nuisance and your house is falling apart halfway into tge mortgage. | Sep 12 17:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.reddit.com/r/LifeProTips/comments/9f2tgm/lpt_use_walmarts_selfcheckout_instead_of_coinstar/ | Sep 12 17:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | LPT: Use Walmart's self-checkout instead of Coinstar to get rid of all your change for free. : LifeProTips | Sep 12 17:13 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Walmart in Waukegan calibrates their self-checkouts to spit about half your coins back out into the tray if you try to dump a lot of change into them. | Sep 12 17:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I just keep dumping and when the tray fills up, I start taking handfuls out of it and dumping them back in. Eventually the tray is emptied enough that I can start putting more from the jar in and then if it fills the tray up again I just fill from the tray again. | Sep 12 17:14 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | We're supposedly having a coin shortage, but there's a coin counter called Coinstar that says it'll count your coins and take 9% of them as a "counting fee". | Sep 12 17:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Which is why Walmart tries to slow you down at the self check. | Sep 12 17:15 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: That's another pitfall of cash. | Sep 12 17:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Coins become a persistent nuisance. | Sep 12 17:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Eventually you have like $40-50 worth of them and have to take them somewhere. | Sep 12 17:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, you have to make an appointment to go to the bank now, and that's only for loans and stuff. | Sep 12 17:17 |
| schestowitz__ | you add them to a big box/repo | Sep 12 17:17 |
| schestowitz__ | at the end, once in x years, you feed them to a machine | Sep 12 17:17 |
| schestowitz__ | you can wait another year until COVID is more or less under control | Sep 12 17:17 |
| schestowitz__ | some countries go back to lock-down now | Sep 12 17:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I usually dump them out when I have $7-8 worth of small change. | Sep 12 17:18 |
| schestowitz__ | there are aso card-associated chages | Sep 12 17:19 |
| schestowitz__ | sometimes they're better hidden | Sep 12 17:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Many stores encourage dumping your change into their self-checkouts now because they're having a problem getting more from their bank. | Sep 12 17:19 |
| schestowitz__ | like selling data on what you buy, when, etc. | Sep 12 17:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I guess Walmart still doesn't want your coins. | Sep 12 17:19 |
| schestowitz__ | they feed this to insurance companies and other scum | Sep 12 17:19 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: asda uk (walmart) has those machine | Sep 12 17:19 |
| schestowitz__ | so does one of my banks | Sep 12 17:19 |
| schestowitz__ | we'll go there again one day | Sep 12 17:19 |
| schestowitz__ | in the mean time we feed our piggy(bank) | Sep 12 17:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The cashiers get pissed because there will be a line forming. | Sep 12 17:20 |
| schestowitz__ | so? | Sep 12 17:20 |
| schestowitz__ | that's their job | Sep 12 17:20 |
| schestowitz__ | hire more people | Sep 12 17:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told one of them "Tell your store manager to speed up the machine. They're obviously doing this on purpose.". | Sep 12 17:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Kept right on feeding my coins in. | Sep 12 17:20 |
| schestowitz__ | do it slowly | Sep 12 17:20 |
| schestowitz__ | to cost them | Sep 12 17:20 |
| schestowitz__ | they might even- GASP - CREATE JOB | Sep 12 17:20 |
| schestowitz__ | aka HIRE | Sep 12 17:21 |
| schestowitz__ | they don't like that | Sep 12 17:21 |
| schestowitz__ | it's an "expense" | Sep 12 17:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was dumping coins. They have it set to deliberately spit half of them out at you to discourage people using them as coin counters. | Sep 12 17:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But if you take your time, eventually it will take all of your coins. | Sep 12 17:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Jewel-Osco's self-checks just let you take the whole bag and dump it in there and it goes to work sorting everything and it's done counting through $10 in like 40-50 seconds. | Sep 12 17:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Walmart has it rigged to take about 5-6 minutes. | Sep 12 17:22 |
| schestowitz__ | I wonder if they minted new coins here only to reduce the money (cash) supply by phasing out "old" ones | Sep 12 17:22 |
| schestowitz__ | never thought of a good reason to make "new" ones just a couple of years back | Sep 12 17:23 |
| schestowitz__ | it's one way to bump people up into a system with aritificial scarcity | Sep 12 17:23 |
| schestowitz__ | lowered supply of coins | Sep 12 17:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: The Fed or people in the know have pretty much grabbed all of the old coins with any silver in them. | Sep 12 17:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 1964 quarters have silver. | Sep 12 17:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Silver prices weren't so ridiculous back then and the money was a more stable store of value. It was worth putting some silver in the coins because the coins still had buying power. | Sep 12 17:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they did that now, people would immediately melt them because the silver's worth a few bucks and the quarter's just worth a quarter. | Sep 12 17:25 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: Now if you somehow filled a 5 gallon bucket full of change, it may buy 6 or 7 days worth of groceries if you actually did manage to feed all of it into a self-checkout at Walmart. | Sep 12 17:26 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I got about $100 worth of stuff there yesterday and I'm like "How the hell did it....ohhh." because the price of everything has gotten completely out of control. | Sep 12 17:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A 2.25 pound roast was $13. | Sep 12 17:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: The Fed is supposed to make sure there's enough cash in the banks to satisfy demand, but when I went there in April and asked for 10 $100s, they said they could give me 7 of them, and the rest had to be $50s and $20s. | Sep 12 17:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The banks were getting downright hateful about cash. All of a sudden the ATMs said "Down for service" for like 3 weeks and you couldn't go inside and if you went through the drive up, they asked why you needed cash. | Sep 12 17:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/pariah-state-no-longer-architect-swedens-covid-19-strategy-shows-lockdowns-werent | Sep 12 17:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | "It's Like Using A Hammer To Kill A Fly" - Architect Of Sweden's COVID-19 Anti-Lockdown Strategy Finally Vindicated | Zero Hedge | Sep 12 17:32 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you look at this graph, the US is the only country where it just keeps surging and surging. | Sep 12 17:33 |
| schestowitz__ | no | Sep 12 17:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So either the EU (or their member states, or both) are lying, or they're just not looking for it that hard. | Sep 12 17:33 |
| schestowitz__ | Israel and France also | Sep 12 17:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The UK too. | Sep 12 17:33 |
| schestowitz__ | their second wave is huge | Sep 12 17:33 |
| schestowitz__ | Spain also | Sep 12 17:33 |
| schestowitz__ | watch Spain now | Sep 12 17:33 |
| schestowitz__ | Brazil has the same trajectory as US | Sep 12 17:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because a virus isn't going to behave differently in the US than it does in Sweden. | Sep 12 17:33 |
| schestowitz__ | India put it off by a few months | Sep 12 17:34 |
| schestowitz__ | today 200 deaths almost n Mandy's country | Sep 12 17:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If Sweden was telling the truth, then they'd look as bad or worse than us because if it was just going to blow through the US in a couple months, that's what would have happened. | Sep 12 17:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're liars. | Sep 12 17:34 |
| schestowitz__ | Sweden wears masks | Sep 12 17:34 |
| schestowitz__ | and they're mostly rrsp | Sep 12 17:34 |
| schestowitz__ | responsible people | Sep 12 17:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's mostly black people here who won't wear a mask. | Sep 12 17:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They take it off once they're in the store. | Sep 12 17:35 |
| schestowitz__ | n swedish Trump rallies and biker race rallies | Sep 12 17:35 |
| schestowitz__ | (we know what those bikers are really about) | Sep 12 17:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: There was a guy walking around Walmart with his pants down, so I decide "I'm going to fuck with him. | Sep 12 17:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I started pretending to check him out and smiled. | Sep 12 17:35 |
| schestowitz__ | lo | Sep 12 17:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He hiked his pants up and belted them and then walked away as fast as he could. | Sep 12 17:36 |
| schestowitz__ | lol | Sep 12 17:36 |
| schestowitz__ | "you go, gurll" | Sep 12 17:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Still, in Lake County, 7x more infected black vs. white, per capita. | Sep 12 17:38 |
| schestowitz__ | They are also poorer, so you might be measuring the wrong thing | Sep 12 17:38 |
| schestowitz__ | race as wealth surrogate | Sep 12 17:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think out of the people I've seen in the last six months not wearing masks indoors, like three dozen black people, 1 white. | Sep 12 17:39 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: more women get pregnant then men | Sep 12 17:39 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe that means women are more promiscuous? No. It means they have a uterus | Sep 12 17:39 |
| schestowitz__ | and in the US almost all blacks are offspring of slaves | Sep 12 17:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not wearing a mask compared with how many get sick is a good thing to measure. | Sep 12 17:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz__ "and in the US almost all blacks "> You know how John put it. | Sep 12 17:40 |
| schestowitz__ | IIRC, in your country latinx have higher covid rates per capita than blacks | Sep 12 17:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "We didn't get their best." | Sep 12 17:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When I asked him what was up with the violence and attitude and everything. | Sep 12 17:40 |
| schestowitz__ | which tells you that your judgement is quite frankly PANTS... and you're poor-shaming | Sep 12 17:40 |
| schestowitz__ | with a tinge of overt racism | Sep 12 17:40 |
| schestowitz__ | blaming blacks for their unprivileged positions, on average | Sep 12 17:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sounds SJW-ey to me. | Sep 12 17:41 |
| schestowitz__ | no | Sep 12 17:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Masks are cheap and only a fool wants to mess around with this. | Sep 12 17:41 |
| schestowitz__ | that term does not even mean anything | Sep 12 17:41 |
| schestowitz__ | the masks don't help much in a house with 10 tenants | Sep 12 17:41 |
| schestowitz__ | who share sink, bath, dishes etc. | Sep 12 17:41 |
| schestowitz__ | and the people aren't of the same family | Sep 12 17:41 |
| schestowitz__ | and might work as meatpackers | Sep 12 17:41 |
| schestowitz__ | anyway | Sep 12 17:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have enough money for drugs and liquor and cigarettes (during a respiratory virus pandemic, no less). | Sep 12 17:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, who the hell is smoking during this? | Sep 12 17:41 |
| schestowitz__ | I'm out | Sep 12 17:41 |
| schestowitz__ | out to the back yard now | Sep 12 17:42 |
| schestowitz__ | byw | Sep 12 17:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you get it, it might end up just barely not killing you. | Sep 12 17:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Let's buy cigarettes while we're at the gas station! | Sep 12 17:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're doing "don't vape" commercials now saying how it could make COVID-19 much worse. | Sep 12 17:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Imagine cigarettes with all that tar and filth. | Sep 12 17:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's another reason why smokers are poor. | Sep 12 17:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It costs $6 a pack for cigarettes now in most places, and up to $13 in Chicago. | Sep 12 17:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When I was like maybe 6-7 years old it was like, they'd have price wars on cigarettes. Right? | Sep 12 17:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Marlboro would do a pack for $1.50 so Camel said 2 packs for $2.50. | Sep 12 17:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Half smoked, half didn't. | Sep 12 17:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But a lot of that was because the price per pack made it a "treat yourself!" thing, you know? | Sep 12 17:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even with inflation, you'd expect that today they might be $3 a pack (maybe a bit less), but it's inflation and tax. | Sep 12 17:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It fell out of favor pretty fast. | Sep 12 17:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean, I'm only 36 and I remember when it was so common to smoke that you couldn't eat inside at Burger King because there were ashtrays on all of the tables. | Sep 12 17:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: The only people who haven't gotten the hint are black people. They still smoke at about the rate I recall people doing it in Indiana in the early 90s. | Sep 12 17:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean, they find the money for that. | Sep 12 17:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A pack of face masks is $5. | Sep 12 17:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The government made it illegal not to wear a mask but if the cops are right there and won't enforce the law because they know what'll happen when CNN gets ahold of half the video after the guy makes an ass out of himself and assaults the police officer, it doesn't matter | Sep 12 17:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So Waukegan gets 60% who have had the Coronavirus. | Sep 12 17:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | While all of the white majority villages, it's more like maybe 8-10%. | Sep 12 17:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not poverty shaming. It's asshole shaming. | Sep 12 17:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's people who don't want to do their part and now we have to "stop and figure out" what's happening when the answer is right there. | Sep 12 17:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | FWIW, I hate the masks. Probably more than most people. (Glasses) | Sep 12 17:52 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #RichardStallman Still Works to Improve the Freedom of the Widely-Used #RasPi (Produced in the United Kingdom by the #RaspberryPi Foundation) http://techrights.org/2020/09/12/raspi-freedom/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/3689e132-523b-45c6-9336-22bf9beb07cb] | Sep 12 17:52 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | We're doing all the same stuff that Sweden is, at the very least. | Sep 12 17:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But a lot of good that does when 90% of 30% of your population just ignores it and breaks the law. | Sep 12 17:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sweden probably doesn't have that. | Sep 12 17:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So, the Waukegans of the US turn into a flaming dumpster. | Sep 12 17:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I like Ron White. He said he got busted for a DUI but he's fighting it. | Sep 12 17:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Turns out they were profiling. The police were pulling over everyone who was driving down that particular sidewalk.". | Sep 12 17:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/anti-capitalism-rise-ed-chancellor-warns-prudent-investing-impossible-these-days | Sep 12 18:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | "Anti-Capitalism Is On The Rise", Ed Chancellor Warns "Prudent Investing Is Impossible These Days" | Zero Hedge | Sep 12 18:00 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, what people are mad about is lemon socialism making it impossible to sort good investments out because the government and the Feds are propping up everything. | Sep 12 18:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So why even have a business plan at all? | Sep 12 18:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Elon Musk talks a lot of nonsense. Very little of it ever happens. Money gets thrown at him. | Sep 12 18:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Boring Company has been the biggest disaster yet. We're not one inch closer to having a Hyperloop now than we were 5 years ago. | Sep 12 18:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A 1 mile "tunnel" in Las Vegas, maybe, where someone drives a Tesla 35 miles an hour. Not even on autopilot. | Sep 12 18:03 |
| smnthermes | https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/fake_initiatives.html | Sep 12 18:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digdeeper.neocities.org | Fake privacy / security initiatives | Sep 12 18:03 | |
| smnthermes | Nice section about PrivacyFools | Sep 12 18:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Tesla is only alive because of market distortion and the bumper crop of dotcom hysteria. | Sep 12 18:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "No. Interest rates of 0% in the English speaking world and below 0% in Europe and Japan, that’s simply unprecedented. The payment of interest on debt precedes money in terms of coinage which was introduced 700 BC. Interest was paid on debts with barley and silver in the third millennial BC. So you’ve got more than 5000 years of history in which interest rates never turned negative." | Sep 12 18:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's important to note that those 0% rates don't help consumers much. | Sep 12 18:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Your credit card debt might have gone down half a point, but that's like 23% vs 23.5%. | Sep 12 18:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Meanwhile, if you were responsible and saved your money, your online savings rate went from 2% to 0.25%. | Sep 12 18:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's an attempt to deal with recalcitrant consumers who don't know what the hell is happening by punishing them for saving money. But they still save money because there's nothing more reassuring than having savings to fall back on if things get worse. | Sep 12 18:09 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: I agree about Elon Musk | Sep 12 18:32 |
| schestowitz__ | if you have remarks about race, I suggest posting them in a more suitable forum | Sep 12 18:32 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe -social | Sep 12 18:32 |
| schestowitz__ | techrights ought to be mostly about tech and Musk fits into this | Sep 12 18:32 |
| schestowitz__ | [09:15] <schestowitz__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG4HrOpzQXY | Sep 12 18:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Richard Stallman debates animal rights activist at Penn - YouTube | Sep 12 18:33 | |
| schestowitz__ | [09:15] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- Richard Stallman debates animal rights activist at Penn - YouTube | Sep 12 18:33 |
| schestowitz__ | How to poison things | Sep 12 18:33 |
| schestowitz__ | bring to tech things that have nothing to do with tech | Sep 12 18:33 |
| schestowitz__ | you then split the base or userbase of support base | Sep 12 18:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Federal Reserve is looking into a cryptocurrency. I'm not sure what the point would be. | Sep 12 18:33 |
| schestowitz__ | based on something superficial like pure politics or veganism | Sep 12 18:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Putin said Russia wanted a cryptoruble. | Sep 12 18:34 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: got it? Better not bring up race if you can | Sep 12 18:34 |
| schestowitz__ | not because it's wrong, but because it's not helping this channel at all | Sep 12 18:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Sep 12 18:34 |
| schestowitz__ | and later it's me who receives the flak | Sep 12 18:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This damned virus is just, it's not going to end. | Sep 12 18:34 |
| schestowitz__ | you use a pseudonym, I don't | Sep 12 18:34 |
| schestowitz__ | Garrett (Google) now going around claiming I condone rapists | Sep 12 18:35 |
| schestowitz__ | based on something somebody else said | Sep 12 18:35 |
| schestowitz__ | but he's trying to attribute to ne | Sep 12 18:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's plausible that Sweden just has smarter people who don't think that their ignorance is something to parade around as a good thing and that's why the virus stats aren't terrible. | Sep 12 18:35 |
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| schestowitz__ | [18:34] <DaemonFC[m]> This damned virus is just, it's not going to end. | Sep 12 18:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We have too much of that here. | Sep 12 18:35 |
| schestowitz__ | yes, overt capitalism isn't ending any time soon :-) | Sep 12 18:35 |
| schestowitz__ | nor is religion | Sep 12 18:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Matthew Garrett has no idea, like most Europeans don't, what is going on in the US or why. | Sep 12 18:36 |
| schestowitz__ | RMS calls it "brain virus" | Sep 12 18:36 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: he was remarking on Jake Appelbaum | Sep 12 18:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So he should shut his goddamned fucking mouth. That's my opinion of him on the "SJW" thing. | Sep 12 18:36 |
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| schestowitz__ | who moved to .nl | Sep 12 18:36 |
| schestowitz__ | like Ariadne plans to, I think she moved some workloads there already | Sep 12 18:36 |
| Ariadne | I moved from Vegas to SF bay | Sep 12 18:36 |
| schestowitz__ | [18:36] [Whois] viera is online via wilhelm.freenode.net (Strasbourg, FR, EU). | Sep 12 18:36 |
| Ariadne | for workloads | Sep 12 18:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's all over Reddit because toxic people thrive under these Codes of Conduct. It's just a different kind of terrible. | Sep 12 18:37 |
| schestowitz__ | Ariadne: ah, ok | Sep 12 18:37 |
| schestowitz__ | freenode access node in Europe at the moment | Sep 12 18:37 |
| Ariadne | also mjg59 lives in SF bay lol | Sep 12 18:37 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: he's doing his militant shaming of people | Sep 12 18:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's not really better, you know. | Sep 12 18:37 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: It doesn't look like cryptorouble managed to stop being empty talk. | Sep 12 18:37 |
| schestowitz__ | Ariadne: he's Irish originally | Sep 12 18:37 |
| schestowitz__ | studied in UK | Sep 12 18:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Bay Area is where right white people live to keep "undesirables" out with high rent and taxes. | Sep 12 18:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they can smell their own farts. | Sep 12 18:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *right | Sep 12 18:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *errr, rich | Sep 12 18:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Autocorrect. | Sep 12 18:38 |
| schestowitz__ | SF has estate issues atm | Sep 12 18:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's only where you'd live if you were privileged. He wouldn't be caught dead in Chicago, much less after the sun goes down. | Sep 12 18:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Guarantee it. | Sep 12 18:38 |
| schestowitz__ | empty space, maybe more than most places | Sep 12 18:38 |
| schestowitz__ | sf might one day compete with manhattan on rent rates | Sep 12 18:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So Garrett talks and he talks but he'd never actually go to a neighborhood on the south side of Chicago. Ever. | Sep 12 18:39 |
| schestowitz__ | in central london you pay for a week where elsewhere you'd pay for a MONTH | Sep 12 18:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's too much of a chickenshit, and like most SJW whites, he knows exactly what would happen if he tried it. | Sep 12 18:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But he has a platform where he can shame others from complete safety for himself. | Sep 12 18:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So that's where people like him usually get their funny ideas. | Sep 12 18:39 |
| schestowitz__ | yeah, whatever, me and him have fought online for a decade | Sep 12 18:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz__ "sf might one day compete with ma"> It's worse. | Sep 12 18:40 |
| schestowitz__ | rate-wise? | Sep 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz__ | or salary/rate ratio? | Sep 12 18:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If he actually had to live in a place like Waukegan it would knock him off his high horse pdq. | Sep 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz__ | absolute or relative to salaries in the locality? | Sep 12 18:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz__ "or salary/rate ratio?"> Both. | Sep 12 18:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: In 2005-ish, someone told me that made $26 an hour stocking shelves at the supermarket. | Sep 12 18:41 |
| schestowitz__ | Waukegan isn't for him | Sep 12 18:42 |
| schestowitz__ | he's be killed, fast | Sep 12 18:42 |
| schestowitz__ | if nor kill himself | Sep 12 18:42 |
| schestowitz__ | iirc, he lives in cambridge or near | Sep 12 18:42 |
| schestowitz__ | those places where it's like harrypotterland | Sep 12 18:42 |
| schestowitz__ | with all fake manners and stuff and you apologise for everything | Sep 12 18:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said "That's more than my mom makes as a nurse in Indiana.". He goes, "Yeah, but rent is $3,000 a month. How much do you pay?" I said, "$400". | Sep 12 18:42 |
| schestowitz__ | in oxford even man act like women... in the gentleman sense | Sep 12 18:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | SF is inflation world. You could make $30 an hour and it wouldn't matter. | Sep 12 18:43 |
| schestowitz__ | no "hollering" and gunshots and stuff | Sep 12 18:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's like $10 here. | Sep 12 18:43 |
| schestowitz__ | so $5 for a cup of coffee is "OK" | Sep 12 18:43 |
| schestowitz__ | because, hey, that's like renting your home for an hour | Sep 12 18:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz__ "so $5 for a cup of coffee is "OK"> Actually, someone told me what a bagel with cream cheese and a cup of coffee with cream cost them in SF a couple years ago. | Sep 12 18:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | $18.50 | Sep 12 18:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :) | Sep 12 18:44 |
| schestowitz__ | f* | Sep 12 18:44 |
| schestowitz__ | last month with the gov scheme we paid 60p for the bagel and cheese | Sep 12 18:44 |
| schestowitz__ | coffee was about 150k | Sep 12 18:44 |
| schestowitz__ | *150p | Sep 12 18:45 |
| schestowitz__ | about 2 dollars | Sep 12 18:45 |
| schestowitz__ | for 18 bucks you get a nice, nice meal | Sep 12 18:45 |
| schestowitz__ | and last month.. a meal FOR TWO ;-) | Sep 12 18:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, the far left doesn't want anyone not like them living near them. | Sep 12 18:45 |
| schestowitz__ | gentrification the class way | Sep 12 18:45 |
| schestowitz__ | Starbucks is coming! | Sep 12 18:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they run them out of town with high taxes and rents and then pontificate to people like me why I'm a terrible racist. | Sep 12 18:46 |
| schestowitz__ | in your tea | Sep 12 18:46 |
| schestowitz__ | manchester is very diverse ethnicity-wise | Sep 12 18:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He probably isn't used to heroin needles on the sidewalk and people screaming and gunshots and stuff. | Sep 12 18:46 |
| schestowitz__ | but nowhere near the issues the US is having, maybe due to stricter immigration criteria and no past of slaves | Sep 12 18:46 |
| schestowitz__ | *except trading them elsewhere for the most part | Sep 12 18:47 |
| schestowitz__ | (Jamaica etc.) | Sep 12 18:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Those people aren't welcome in San Francisco. The closest anyone like that is to them is over in Fresno, and even that's not nearly as bad as anything in Illinois. | Sep 12 18:47 |
| schestowitz__ | anyway | Sep 12 18:47 |
| schestowitz__ | back on topic.. | Sep 12 18:47 |
| schestowitz__ | it was about Appelbaum and Debian | Sep 12 18:47 |
| schestowitz__ | SPECIFICALLY: | Sep 12 18:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's the last person to talk about social issues. | Sep 12 18:48 |
| schestowitz__ | about how Debian DAMs told the press lies about the NATURE of evidence received | Sep 12 18:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | San Francisco isn't even a real place. It's an enclave. | Sep 12 18:48 |
| schestowitz__ | which was more like "I heard" | Sep 12 18:48 |
| schestowitz__ | SF is where many high-paying jobs are | Sep 12 18:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have junkies and homeless in SF. It's not all so great. | Sep 12 18:48 |
| Ariadne | it's ok | Sep 12 18:49 |
| schestowitz__ | and I suppose it works to appease those businesses | Sep 12 18:49 |
| schestowitz__ | so artistic and technical folks flock there | Sep 12 18:49 |
| Ariadne | california finds a way to extract all that money you earn | Sep 12 18:49 |
| schestowitz__ | iirc, jono bacon moved there | Sep 12 18:49 |
| Ariadne | most people are there because they get stuck there | Sep 12 18:49 |
| schestowitz__ | more or less vanished there | Sep 12 18:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <Ariadne "california finds a way to extrac"> Yes, which is why people are leaving. | Sep 12 18:49 |
| Ariadne | not enough money to leave | Sep 12 18:49 |
| schestowitz__ | and mortgage | Sep 12 18:49 |
| schestowitz__ | so either default on it | Sep 12 18:49 |
| schestowitz__ | or stay and be a slave to employers for 20 odd years | Sep 12 18:50 |
| Ariadne | yes | Sep 12 18:50 |
| Ariadne | basically | Sep 12 18:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People get a look at the tax rate in Nevada, Arizona, or Texas. | Sep 12 18:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're like "Why the fuck am I living in California? The Democrats have ruined it.". | Sep 12 18:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But then they move and vote for Democrats. | Sep 12 18:50 |
| schestowitz__ | Ariadne: unless they're bald and bearded and it's too late to do what they really wanted to do i life | Sep 12 18:50 |
| schestowitz__ | and then the kid goes to college | Sep 12 18:50 |
| schestowitz__ | another $200k+ down the drain, for each kid | Sep 12 18:50 |
| Ariadne | yes | Sep 12 18:51 |
| Ariadne | that's why I left there asap | Sep 12 18:51 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: Microsoft is based in Reno ;-) | Sep 12 18:51 |
| schestowitz__ | Reno loves Microsoft | Sep 12 18:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because as soon as they move they go "You know what would be nice?" and they start passing things that cost tax money, and then you end up with a California or Illinois all over again. | Sep 12 18:51 |
| schestowitz__ | billions in taxes evades | Sep 12 18:51 |
| schestowitz__ | *evaded | Sep 12 18:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The government taking your money to spend it on things you don't even use or benefit from or care about. | Sep 12 18:51 |
| Ariadne | microsoft is also based in tulsa | Sep 12 18:51 |
| Ariadne | their business intelligence unit is | Sep 12 18:51 |
| Ariadne | which competes with SAP | Sep 12 18:51 |
| Ariadne | (lol) | Sep 12 18:51 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: tanks, helicopters and best-selling (subsidised) F-35 | Sep 12 18:51 |
| schestowitz__ | that cannot even fire their guns (!!) | Sep 12 18:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everyone thinks that when the government takes something over, it'll be "free". | Sep 12 18:52 |
| schestowitz__ | yet | Sep 12 18:52 |
| schestowitz__ | Researcher-: I doubt Dynamics is profitable | Sep 12 18:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then they open their tax bill and they're like "I go to the library once in a while and there are holes in the road. Why am I living under 14 governments?". | Sep 12 18:52 |
| schestowitz__ | may be subsidised and hidden away in some profitable unit with other things | Sep 12 18:52 |
| Ariadne | schestowitz__: I don't know. I don't use any of this crap myself :) | Sep 12 18:53 |
| Ariadne | I've heard dynamics is far more pleasant than SAP though | Sep 12 18:53 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: 1.1 trillion/annum (USD) pentagon budget | Sep 12 18:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: Illinois is frittering away $250 million on "contact tracing" in a year where half the state budget is a loan from the Federal Reserve. | Sep 12 18:53 |
| Ariadne | but the thing is | Sep 12 18:53 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe more now, with Trump | Sep 12 18:53 |
| Ariadne | everything plugs into SAP | Sep 12 18:53 |
| schestowitz__ | the complete figure is a lot higher than 0.7 | Sep 12 18:53 |
| Ariadne | SAP is basically a monopoly | Sep 12 18:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The contact tracing hasn't helped. | Sep 12 18:53 |
| Ariadne | only oracle comes close to scratching it | Sep 12 18:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We've had more deaths per capita than Indiana, which isn't doing jack or shit about the Coronavirus. | Sep 12 18:54 |
| schestowitz__ | "contact tracing" is pants | Sep 12 18:54 |
| Ariadne | DaemonFC[m]: contact tracing only works if people are honest and answer the calls | Sep 12 18:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, Wisconsin, where their supreme court declared the lockdown unconstitutional. | Sep 12 18:54 |
| schestowitz__ | like pants down the loin | Sep 12 18:54 |
| schestowitz__ | pants English slang | Sep 12 18:54 |
| schestowitz__ | the theory of it is like face recog | Sep 12 18:54 |
| schestowitz__ | it might work | Sep 12 18:54 |
| schestowitz__ | for small groups | Sep 12 18:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <Ariadne "DaemonFC: contact tracing only w"> It's just another government boondoggle where some "state worker" sits on their ass and looks busy while they live off of you. | Sep 12 18:55 |
| schestowitz__ | but not millions with many thousands of stores and businesses and diners | Sep 12 18:55 |
| schestowitz__ | it doesn't scale well | Sep 12 18:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We have a lot of that here. | Sep 12 18:55 |
| schestowitz__ | but it even sucked for Iceland | Sep 12 18:55 |
| schestowitz__ | a | Sep 12 18:55 |
| schestowitz__ | a tiny population | Sep 12 18:55 |
| Ariadne | I got a contact tracing call once a few years ago | Sep 12 18:55 |
| schestowitz__ | they canned this program/experiment | Sep 12 18:55 |
| schestowitz__ | called it useless | Sep 12 18:55 |
| Ariadne | some person I slept with got an STI | Sep 12 18:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They do contact tracing for things like HIV and it has an effect. | Sep 12 18:55 |
| Ariadne | so they called everyone | Sep 12 18:56 |
| Ariadne | to make them get tested or whatever | Sep 12 18:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But the R0 for HIV is low and people know how to stop it from spreading. | Sep 12 18:56 |
| schestowitz__ | so they have a 'slept with" DB | Sep 12 18:56 |
| Ariadne | lol | Sep 12 18:56 |
| schestowitz__ | niiiicee. | Sep 12 18:56 |
| schestowitz__ | will never be abused by Trump | Sep 12 18:56 |
| schestowitz__ | "Barr, give a list of X on Y..." | Sep 12 18:56 |
| schestowitz__ | MLK was aksed to kill himself | Sep 12 18:57 |
| schestowitz__ | for who he slept with | Sep 12 18:57 |
| schestowitz__ | they even recorded the thing | Sep 12 18:57 |
| schestowitz__ | Hoover's FBI | Sep 12 18:57 |
| Ariadne | also as of last night I'm engaged | Sep 12 18:57 |
| schestowitz__ | congrats | Sep 12 18:57 |
| Ariadne | never thought that would happen | Sep 12 18:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you get a new HIV diagnosis, the health dept will ask for a list of people to call. | Sep 12 18:57 |
| Ariadne | but one of my girlfriends popped the question | Sep 12 18:57 |
| Ariadne | soooooooo | Sep 12 18:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They also ask, as part of case management, if you had sex with anyone and stuff. | Sep 12 18:57 |
| Ariadne | DaemonFC[m]: in my case it was like chlamydia or something | Sep 12 18:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Illinois has no criminal HIV transmission law. | Sep 12 18:58 |
| Ariadne | not anything as serious as hiv | Sep 12 18:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It wasn't possible to enforce it anyway. | Sep 12 18:58 |
| Ariadne | well | Sep 12 18:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The state had to prove you knew about it, and the Supreme Court ruled that they couldn't just grab your medical records and put them into evidence. | Sep 12 18:58 |
| Ariadne | I think it would be fucked up to knowingly have HIV and then lie about it | Sep 12 18:58 |
| Ariadne | like that's just a dick move man | Sep 12 18:59 |
| Ariadne | but hiv is mostly spread through needlesharing | Sep 12 18:59 |
| Ariadne | not sex anyway | Sep 12 18:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There have been people convicted of it before, in California even. | Sep 12 18:59 |
| Ariadne | you can have someone who is poz fuck you without any protection and have good odds of walking away fine | Sep 12 19:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh there's plenty spread through sex. | Sep 12 19:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I must know at least half a dozen people, personally. | Sep 12 19:00 |
| Ariadne | as long as you don't shoot up anwyay | Sep 12 19:00 |
| Ariadne | yeah it happens | Sep 12 19:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's not really a good way of looking at things. | Sep 12 19:00 |
| Ariadne | oh I agree | Sep 12 19:00 |
| Ariadne | I'm just saying that most ignorant people think you get it through sex only | Sep 12 19:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because then you go what are the odds. If a person is not on their meds, then "fairly high". | Sep 12 19:01 |
| Ariadne | when in reality it's like 50/50 | Sep 12 19:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because their viral load will be 50,000, not 20. | Sep 12 19:01 |
| Ariadne | idk | Sep 12 19:01 |
| Ariadne | i am very picky about who I bed anyway | Sep 12 19:02 |
| Ariadne | soooooooo this is not a concern for me | Sep 12 19:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's still an HIV denial movement, but high turnover. | Sep 12 19:02 |
| Ariadne | oh HIV is quite real | Sep 12 19:02 |
| Ariadne | I'm just saying | Sep 12 19:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Generally the all die of AIDS and then sue to make sure that's not on the death certificate. | Sep 12 19:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then if it is, they say the government lied. | Sep 12 19:02 |
| Ariadne | you can go from 50/50 | Sep 12 19:02 |
| Ariadne | to 100% odds | Sep 12 19:02 |
| Ariadne | by "party and play" | Sep 12 19:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | One really high profile woman from the 2000s even got her daughter killed, then she died a few years later. | Sep 12 19:03 |
| Ariadne | you share a needle with someone who has hiv | Sep 12 19:03 |
| Ariadne | it is 100% chance | Sep 12 19:03 |
| Ariadne | basically | Sep 12 19:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She founded an "organization" that lobbies to not have expecting mothers take ARVs to keep their kids from getting it. | Sep 12 19:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So her daughter was born positive and died very young because of that and the state never stepped in. | Sep 12 19:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Which is fucked up. | Sep 12 19:04 |
| Ariadne | yuck | Sep 12 19:04 |
| Ariadne | I've honestly concluded that I hate men anyway | Sep 12 19:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump said that we want to "wipe out HIV" with PrEP. Even if everyone did get it for free, HIV wouldn't go away. | Sep 12 19:05 |
| Ariadne | my experiences with dating men have not been great | Sep 12 19:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A lopsided percentage got it because they don't care about their life, at all. | Sep 12 19:05 |
| Ariadne | so many inquiries like "it's not cheating if it is with a trans [sic]" | Sep 12 19:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The best you can hope for is that enough people would take it to slowly start starving out the epidemic, over generations. | Sep 12 19:05 |
| Ariadne | yeah but prep | Sep 12 19:06 |
| Ariadne | can have really bad side effects | Sep 12 19:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | For about the first month, yeah. | Sep 12 19:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Morning sickness and stuff. | Sep 12 19:06 |
| Ariadne | I didn't have any | Sep 12 19:07 |
| Ariadne | but I've heard some horror stories | Sep 12 19:07 |
| Ariadne | and now I think I won't be needing prep anymore since I guess I am settling down a bit | Sep 12 19:07 |
| Ariadne | still moving to NL tho, fuck this shithole country | Sep 12 19:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was talking to my ex about it and he said "Oh I talked with my doctor but I told him 'If you're such a gigantic hoebag that you anticipate getting HIV, you have problems.'". | Sep 12 19:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <Ariadne "still moving to NL tho, fuck thi"> It's getting pretty bad these days. | Sep 12 19:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've noticed that the chatter from Republicans about repealing Obamacare and undoing same-sex marriage is going away fast. | Sep 12 19:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a losing issue, especially now that there's a pandemic going on. I mean, it would be kind of dumb to talk about knocking over the healthcare system in a year where there's a really bad disease going around that almost everyone will get eventually. | Sep 12 19:10 |
| Ariadne | I didn't anticipate getting HIV, but it's nice to be safe anyway???? | Sep 12 19:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe some of their fringe element is still on about Obamacare, but Trump declared that he defeated it (which is a lie, but none of his supporters care) and moved on. | Sep 12 19:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The court composition is exactly the same that decided to uphold the law twice already. They could have just as easily gotten rid of it years ago. | Sep 12 19:12 |
| Ariadne | HIV is forever | Sep 12 19:12 |
| Ariadne | why wouldn't you take precautions if you have even minor risk | Sep 12 19:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I suspect that the Affordable Care Act isn't going away. The Republicans held hundreds of show votes against it when they didn't need a replacement plan because they couldn't pass one anyway. | Sep 12 19:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then they took a shot at it and defeated their own plan from the majority. | Sep 12 19:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They can't defund it because it's a continuing appropriation. | Sep 12 19:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump's tried swatting at it, but a different piece kicks in and starts doing the same thing. | Sep 12 19:14 |
| Ariadne | like your ex is kinda dumb imo | Sep 12 19:14 |
| Ariadne | because someone in your circle or people you sleep with could have gotten it by accident | Sep 12 19:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <Ariadne "like your ex is kinda dumb imo"> Yeah. Well, he did file bankruptcy after taking on over $20,000 in student loans to manage a Circle K. | Sep 12 19:15 |
| Ariadne | even if you keep a tight circle | Sep 12 19:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | His bankruptcy didn't make the student loans go away, but it was a ploy to screw over his other creditors to free up cash for the student loans. | Sep 12 19:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm surprised that he didn't open up and Adversarial Proceeding against the student loan. I would have. | Sep 12 19:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | College is a scam anyway. Guy on Reddit posted his bill. | Sep 12 19:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | $3,500 of the semester were mystery fees. | Sep 12 19:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Meanwhile they're over there licking their lips going "Kids are stupid. They've never managed money anymore. They don't know how compounding interest works. They'll pay this, right?". | Sep 12 19:22 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/09/11/reckless-violent-massacre-570-wolves-and-wolf-pups-idaho-bolsters-alarm-over-trump https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/09/11/127223/ | Sep 12 19:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Reckless, Violent, Massacre' of 570 Wolves and Wolf Pups in Idaho Bolsters Alarm Over Trump Attack on Species Protections | Common Dreams News | Sep 12 19:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Crying Wolf on Livestock Deaths - CounterPunch.org | Sep 12 19:23 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | If your economy is mainly creating jobs that don't require college then it stands to reason that not everyone needs college and it will just be a horrendous expense that you can't pay. | Sep 12 19:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | RMS even noted this. | Sep 12 19:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He even said something like "Maybe if you want to spend 6 years becoming a doctor so you can pay off the loans 20 years from now, you'll eventually come out ahead. | Sep 12 19:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's why almost nobody has any real money until well into their 40s or 50s, and maybe not even then. | Sep 12 19:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Let's say you study something for 4 years and get hit with $14,000 in mystery fees at 6% interest that didn't go to your education. | Sep 12 19:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's about $24,000 over 20 years with interest. | Sep 12 19:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you could pay a "computer fee" and an "athletic fee" and a "facilities assessment recovery fee", and so on. | Sep 12 19:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He finally figured out what the "computer fee" was. | Sep 12 19:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They said in the commercial they "give" you a laptop. | Sep 12 19:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they give you a laptop that's like $400 at Walmart and then charge you over $1,600 for it (plus interest). | Sep 12 19:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Have fun with that for the rest of your life, I guess. | Sep 12 19:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: I agree that it would probably be better for the environment to not eat meat, but most people aren't going to do that. | Sep 12 19:32 |
| schestowitz__ | Sounds like a deal for "MARISOL" | Sep 12 19:33 |
| schestowitz__ | Buy now, worry later | Sep 12 19:33 |
| schestowitz__ | worry a lot later | Sep 12 19:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | However, one thing that has slowed it down is the pandemic prices on red meat, but chicken's still cheap. | Sep 12 19:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz__ "Sounds like a deal for "MARISOL""> No, it's not a Mac. MARISOL hated this. MARISOL is going back to her house with 2 mortgages and $11,000 property tax. | Sep 12 19:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Over 30 years, you basically paid for a second house you didn't get, and it all went to the government. | Sep 12 19:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they could do fuck all with it, because Indiana does about the same amount of important stuff and hasn't managed to waste half this much money. | Sep 12 19:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Only a fucking retard could possibly look at Illinois property taxes and the state's fiscal outlook and decide to buy a house on a 30 year mortgage. | Sep 12 19:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It not only ties you down to a county that spends money like a group of drunken sailors, but to a state that's worse. | Sep 12 19:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The state commands the economy to shut down. Can't figure out why there's no tax revenue. | Sep 12 19:37 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #KDE Frameworks 5.74.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142034#comment-26397 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7d98e148-e57a-4278-9e8b-0aed7ed55cf1] | Sep 12 19:38 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/2001265 | Sep 12 19:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4310188) | Sep 12 19:38 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: The $15 minimum wage was a pretty naked ploy to get people off welfare and onto the tax rolls. | Sep 12 19:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean, not that that's a bad thing I suppose. | Sep 12 19:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It also had the unintended effect of raising the amount of money that's protected from garniishment creditors to $2,400 a month. | Sep 12 19:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The protected amount in Indiana is only $940. | Sep 12 19:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So blood out of a turnip and all that. | Sep 12 19:40 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Arch Linux-based Manjaro 20.1 Mikah is here with Xfce, GNOME, and KDE http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142016#comment-26396 [https://pleroma.site/objects/34d21650-ae09-46d9-bc34-114ad84cbb84] | Sep 12 19:40 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | People won't just have more money. It won't be worth suing them if they owe you. | Sep 12 19:40 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KMail account trouble http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142037 [https://pleroma.site/objects/aa08ca82-bc3e-41b9-9550-bbc47327d909] | Sep 12 19:41 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142038 [https://pleroma.site/objects/273e7138-6cea-497d-a7a7-c88c53e407dc] | Sep 12 19:42 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://finance.yahoo.com/news/vmware-twitter-cut-pay-remote-184722278.html | Sep 12 19:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | VMware Cuts Pay for Remote Workers Fleeing Silicon Valley | Sep 12 19:51 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | VMWare will cut your pay if you move out of the bay area to a less expensive place to live in order to work from home, even though the work from home is permanent. | Sep 12 19:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Facebook and Twitter are about to do the same. | Sep 12 19:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wonder if the People's Republic of California has been leaning on them to stop people from bothering to leave. | Sep 12 19:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can't leave. Who would pay all of Gavin Nuisance's new taxes? | Sep 12 19:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you don't stay in the Democratic People's Republic of California, Gavin Nuisance won't be able to pay your hard earned money as stimulus checks to illegal immigrants. | Sep 12 20:00 |
| psydroid | that much became clear to me when I was living in Ireland (basically a US colony), employers don't actually want you to earn so much that you can save enough money to leave and not come back | Sep 12 20:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Democrats never "tell" anyone to pay more taxes. They only "ask. | Sep 12 20:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With the bonus of getting to go to jail if you don't voluntarily hand it over. | Sep 12 20:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Governor Nuisance signed a bill yesterday that gives prisoners who the state forces to fight wildfires for $1 an hour a chance to get an expungement. | Sep 12 20:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This totally isn't how you get The Running Man. | Sep 12 20:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Last season's winners! You remember them. There they are at this very minute! Basking under the Maui sun!" | Sep 12 20:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <psydroid "that much became clear to me whe"> Well, you can avoid expensive habits and live pretty well even on a modest salary. | Sep 12 20:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People just got so used to $6 coffees and eating out every day and going to the mall that bad habits led to bankruptcy with $80,000 incomes. | Sep 12 20:09 |
| psydroid | I did and I saved as much as I could before handing in my notice and leaving, my boss wasn't happy with that | Sep 12 20:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Respect is something that's earned. Something given has no value. | Sep 12 20:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People here walk around with their pants around their ankles and shouting and committing all kinds of disorderly conduct and then wonder why nobody can stand them. | Sep 12 20:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When they shut down the restaurants, you suddenly had a lot of people with no life skills who had to cook, and they could burn water. | Sep 12 20:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Every job is like that. | Sep 12 20:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It pays less than you're worth and just enough for you to come crawling back. | Sep 12 20:13 |
| psydroid | I even flew out to NL for the weekend rather than stay at hostels because it was cheaper and I had peace of mind (because you know, paying your rent on time every month is not enough to keep a roof over your head, when you get a one-month notice to leave) | Sep 12 20:16 |
| psydroid | that really pissed him off | Sep 12 20:16 |
| psydroid | and I was told "you don't live in Ireland" lol | Sep 12 20:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I really hated having a lease. | Sep 12 20:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's riskier than month to month in my opinion. | Sep 12 20:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've never had a landlord ask me to leave until that one crazy lady in Chicago. | Sep 12 20:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But I've had to break leases before and it's always been awkward to move out and then negotiate. Hey what do you want to keep this out of court? | Sep 12 20:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's usually not much. | Sep 12 20:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I negotiated my way down to "Just keep the deposit." or "Pay us $50 and we keep the deposit." | Sep 12 20:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Those corporate types have so much turnover that they don't even know much about you a couple years later. I had one search bankers boxes just to say when I lived there. | Sep 12 20:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Immigration wants to know where you've lived for like 10 years before you file a petition for your spouse. | Sep 12 20:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm like shit I don't know. I move all the time because either the landlord's insane or something happens and I have to go. | Sep 12 20:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was hiding from my creditors to discourage a lawsuit before the bankruptcy and I did it so well that the credit bureaus still don't know where I live. | Sep 12 20:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have to serve you with notice that you're being sued and they have to sue you where you live. | Sep 12 20:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Normally they hire out to figure out where you are and then they send someone with court papers to ambush you. | Sep 12 20:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ducking a process server only works for so long. They found my grandfather's car that he was behind on after he moved from Louisiana to Indiana in 1963. | Sep 12 20:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Repossessed it while he was out working in a field. | Sep 12 20:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They've always been good at what they do. | Sep 12 20:30 |
| psydroid | it's terrible to treat people like this | Sep 12 20:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've walked away from so much debt that most of my jobs didn't even pay that much 40 hours a week for 5 years. | Sep 12 20:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not having personal bankruptcy is terrible. | Sep 12 20:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Phillipines doesn't. | Sep 12 20:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The US rate limits you to one every 8 years. | Sep 12 20:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Judges have some discretion after the second one though. | Sep 12 20:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Kevin Spacey had a line in American Beauty. His wife in the movie warned him that he might spill beer on the couch. | Sep 12 20:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He goes "So what? It's just a couch.". | Sep 12 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She says, "This is a $4,000 such and such sofa.". | Sep 12 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He says, "This isn't life. This is just stuff!". | Sep 12 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's how my sister in law is. She's stuffing her life full of contrivances and gadgets and things she found at the mall to put on a debt card because her kids hate her and her husband is planning an exit, stage right, as soon as the kids age out of the house. | Sep 12 20:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She knew about it and stopped taking her pill without telling him to try to get pregnant again to trap him for another 18 years. | Sep 12 20:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm not trying to gossip too much, I'm just saying what kind of a life is that? | Sep 12 20:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Debt, running on a treadmill, a marriage that never should have happened that is hanging by a string because of kids. | Sep 12 20:48 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | All the while, cramming your house full of things that really do have no value other than maybe some minimal functionality that is massively outweighed by the amount of resources going into them. | Sep 12 20:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You shouldn't accumulate things. You should plan that "If I have to get out of here in one or two days, what is irreplaceable?". | Sep 12 20:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In my case it's Mandy, some documents, and my cats. | Sep 12 20:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean, if we absolutely had to, we could toss 90% of this in the dumpster or the trunk of my car and beat it and live with my mom for a while. | Sep 12 20:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not ideal, but it's not a major disaster either. | Sep 12 20:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If I do ever live in an apartment again, the most I'm paying for furniture is some IKEA stuff that sits there for 3 or 4 years and then you can just kick it all down and start over in the new place. | Sep 12 20:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The moving van is more than the furniture is worth. | Sep 12 20:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who needs the hassle in their life? | Sep 12 20:53 |
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| psydroid | your sister's behaviour is like my dad's, saving money and then buying new cars and taking out mortgages on houses in order to compete with "relatives" rather than making yourself happy (which will never be possible if you are not a wholesome person in the first place) | Sep 12 20:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't save anything. | Sep 12 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have negative net worth and there's always someone writing them another loan. | Sep 12 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's comical how bad the banking system is in the US. | Sep 12 20:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Eventually 90% of your income is going to servicing loans, and they don't care. | Sep 12 20:56 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | It falls over every decade and the governement bails them out. No incentive to lend responsibly. | Sep 12 20:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | psydroid: They let me take out almost three times my annual income in credit cards and buy a car. | Sep 12 20:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That wasn't even the end of it. | Sep 12 20:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At the end, when I didn't need my ex to shut up anymore, because the plea deal was signed, I started skipping the car payments and drove it around for several months before surrendering it to the finance company. | Sep 12 20:59 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | John had to go spend thousands just to make the loan current from while I was driving it. It completely wiped out his retirement account. | Sep 12 21:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He had to convert all of the loan money he took out from the government shutdown (which he had spent) to a dispersal, which caused him to also have to pay income and a 10% penalty tax on it this year. | Sep 12 21:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the IRS and state got him for a couple thousand more. | Sep 12 21:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <psydroid "your sister's behaviour is like "> Oh, just give me a bed, some food, a hot shower, and wifi, and I'm good. | Sep 12 21:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This motel room, which has utilities, cable tv, internet, etc costs less than the property taxes on my sister-in-law's house. | Sep 12 21:05 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | People who buy a house in a state like this are chumps. | Sep 12 21:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They end up giving over their money to the bank and then they still have to pay $1,000 a month or more to the government for a license to have that "property". | Sep 12 21:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then homeowner's insurance. So there went another $500. | Sep 12 21:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's going away fast. | Sep 12 21:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Why in the hell would you agree to pay for all of this when most of it never even goes away and you could just live in a hotel? | Sep 12 21:08 |
| psydroid | I think you should only try to buy a house if you can actually afford buying one with cash | Sep 12 21:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People aren't smart. They go "Hey Ryan, you know, if you live in a motel you always pay them and it's never yours.". | Sep 12 21:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I go "Hey, you know, you get a mortgage and you owe the bank, the government, insurance, and repair people 3x as much for 3 years and 2/3rds of that never goes away. | Sep 12 21:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *30 years | Sep 12 21:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Seriously, 30 fucking years. | Sep 12 21:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And most people don't even start to have a credit rating the banks will pretend to look at for a mortgage until they're at least my age. | Sep 12 21:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you throw 30 fucking years on top of 36 fucking years, and you own the house when you're 76, and Social Security says you'll probably live to be 82. | Sep 12 21:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Congratulations. | Sep 12 21:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 66, sorry | Sep 12 21:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe 76 if you get funny ideas about "borrowing the equity" to make payments on your midlife crises! | Sep 12 21:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They get a constant stream of people making a big mistake because they only have to trick people into making the mistake and then their kids won't learn anything from it and their kids will get jobs and make the same mistake, and so on. | Sep 12 21:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's like religion. "I have to buy a house. Buying a house makes me an adult! My parents had a house and I need a house!". | Sep 12 21:13 |
| psydroid | that's why I draw my own plan, rarely listening to other people | Sep 12 21:13 |
| psydroid | yeah, in the 70s, when they were actually affordable | Sep 12 21:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then the banks notice something going wrong. They finally made my generation too poor to even consider it. So now we're a bunch of "millennials ruining the housing market". | Sep 12 21:14 |
| psydroid | maybe up to the 90s | Sep 12 21:14 |
| psydroid | but not now | Sep 12 21:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Rates are lower than the 70s, but rates are not the only factor. | Sep 12 21:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The real estate bubble has caused the underlying loan principle to be a much bigger problem than the interest rate. | Sep 12 21:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The rates are supporting the bubble because the sellers see that rates are low, and they can make your payment as bad a deal as it's ever been by charging more for the house. | Sep 12 21:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, a lot of landlords went on a buying spree grabbing a lot of the houses that people lose after 2008, but now they have tenants that haven't paid rent in months. 50% of the US is months behind on their rent. | Sep 12 21:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, mortgage defaults are triple what they were this time last year and it's only getting worse. | Sep 12 21:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A lot of landlords have to have rent checks coming in to pay the mortgages on the house (which have 20 years left on them). | Sep 12 21:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the banks are going to foreclose on many of the landlords and take the houses back again. | Sep 12 21:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a vicious cycle and nobody ever learns anything. | Sep 12 21:18 |
| psydroid | what are they going to do about it? make 50% of the population of the US homeless? | Sep 12 21:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're slow walking us to god only knows what really. | Sep 12 21:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But potentially, yeah. | Sep 12 21:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When the moratorium ends, people will only be left to file bankruptcy to stall their landlord out for a few more months. | Sep 12 21:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They might leave without owing him anything, but they'll still have to leave. | Sep 12 21:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So around March of next year is when things will get really bad unless Congress passes something to bail out renters. | Sep 12 21:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This eviction freeze has landlords unwilling to rent apartments. | Sep 12 21:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean you might get something if your credit is perfect or they're really desperate or both. | Sep 12 21:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/12/us/freedom-black-cooperative-toomsboro/index.html | Sep 12 21:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-19 families buy nearly 97 acres of land in Georgia to create a city safe for Black people - CNN | Sep 12 21:33 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | CNN doesn't mention other all-black cities, like East St. Louis, Illinois and Gary, Indiana for some reason. | Sep 12 21:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Matthew Garrett should move to Gary. | Sep 12 21:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's quite affordable. Nice change of scenery for him. | Sep 12 21:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's only lost 2/3rds of its population since 1960. | Sep 12 21:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If he only leaves the house during the day, he even has a better chance of not being shot. | Sep 12 21:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Only 26% are below the official federal poverty line, which is 3x the Indiana average. | Sep 12 21:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They also boast the only school system in Indiana to receive an F from the state. | Sep 12 21:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Indiana National Guard has been deployed off and on in Gary because the city is teetering on bankruptcy and had to ask the governor to help them demolish all of the rotting buildings. | Sep 12 21:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The upside is that the only police activity you really see there is when the Lake County (Indiana) Sheriff has to do something. | Sep 12 21:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Those people in Georgia should just move to Gary. | Sep 12 21:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Indiana isn't very particular about who can buy a gun, which is good, because if you locate to Gary, you'll need one. | Sep 12 21:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | US Steel sponsored a minor league baseball park, but they copied the blueprint for Parkview Field in Fort Wayne. | Sep 12 21:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I suppose those tariffs that Trump put on foreign steel probably did help Gary a little bit. At least anyone interested in a job at US Steel. | Sep 12 21:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most of the town is boarded up except for shops that say they take food stamps. | Sep 12 21:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They tried opening a Walgreens pharmacy, but it was robbed so often that it was gone in 6 months. | Sep 12 21:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | psydroid: The Walmart in Waukegan gets a lot of shoplifters. | Sep 12 21:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They keep off duty cops there while they're open. | Sep 12 21:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some days they catch 40 or 50 shoplifters. It's been worse lately, but most aren't stealing anything you need. | Sep 12 21:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I asked what was being stolen, and it was stuff like liquor, makeup, televisions. | Sep 12 21:46 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I talked to one of the Loss Prevention people there. I recommended putting up pictures of liquor bottles with the UPC and then the cashier has to have a manager go into a stockroom and get it for you. | Sep 12 21:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's what Walmart does in Mexico, because some bottles of liquor there cost what some people make in 2 weeks. | Sep 12 21:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The post office sent me an email saying to make sure I plan ahead if I'm voting by mail. | Sep 12 21:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, Illinois law says that the ballots have to go out September 24th and cannot arrive to the voters who requested the first batch any later than October 6th. | Sep 12 21:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Assuming I get mine by the 14th I'll definitely mail it. | Sep 12 21:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Illinois expects 1/3rd of all ballots to be by mail this year. | Sep 12 21:52 |
| psydroid | we've had more crime over here as well lately, but not on the scale of what you see in the US | Sep 12 21:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, Kenosha and Chicago are both about 30 minutes from me. | Sep 12 21:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's been scary. schestowitz__ is too much on the side of people who don't really need any of this, they just see an opportunity to smash and grab. | Sep 12 21:53 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | They're not stealing from corporations. They're stealing from people who go in there and buy stuff. | Sep 12 21:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because to cover the losses, the price goes up, and then you're paying more for your clothes, food, personal supplies.... | Sep 12 21:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They never go for the groceries, at least not first. | Sep 12 21:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They go after big ticket stuff that they can fence.. | Sep 12 21:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think that they'd be favored in the court of public opinion if they went in there, didn't touch the cash and TVs, and wiped out the food section. | Sep 12 21:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think people would say "Why isn't the government helping them with food?" not "OMFG, how many TVs does that fat woman need?". | Sep 12 21:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you look at how people dress and what they loot, it's clear that they're not poor. | Sep 12 21:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The security footage had people dressed a lot better than me going in and smashing a window so they could run off with designer sunglasses and handbags. | Sep 12 21:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But to make sure everyone except Matthew Garrett hates them, they managed to find plenty of black owned and immigrant-owned businesses and tear them a new asshole so they can never reopen. | Sep 12 21:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know, small businesses like Ronny's or that gas station the Indian guy said already got smashed up once, he paid $300,000 (his life savings) to fix it so they destroyed it again 3 months later. | Sep 12 21:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not just, you know, designed handbags and some $100 billion dollar multinational, and who cares. | Sep 12 21:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a bunch of fucking losers and if it sounds like I'm mad that it's going on where I have to live, I am mad. | Sep 12 22:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because once they see that the cops don't do anything, what do you think happens next? It is happening! They're murdering teenagers, and a woman who asked them to turn the stereo down, and going into Motel 6 and killing someone every week. | Sep 12 22:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's been a spike in home invasions, and rape. | Sep 12 22:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So Matthew Garrett won. I hope that San Francisco collapses and defunds the police and we'll see if they're fucking happy about it. | Sep 12 22:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Him and Gavin Nuisance. | Sep 12 22:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Murder rate in Waukegan must be up at least 50-60% over this time last year. | Sep 12 22:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The cops just fall back and this is what you get for tolerating rioters and looting. | Sep 12 22:03 |
| psydroid | the things I've seen of places like San Francisco just don't happen here | Sep 12 22:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, the cost of living there is just insane to begin with. | Sep 12 22:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You got people commuting 3-4 hours to the office so they can afford to live in a proper house, or at least something more than a sleeping room with 3 other men. | Sep 12 22:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Someone told me he was paying over $2,200 a month to sleep in one room with 5 other men with bunk beds lined up. | Sep 12 22:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And that they all had to use the same bathroom. | Sep 12 22:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Apparently, someone working for Apple was paying $3,500 for a garage with no plumbing. | Sep 12 22:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They were using contractor's buckets for a toilet. | Sep 12 22:06 |
| psydroid | I don't know how these Silicon Valley companies think people are going to go to these lengths to work for them, but none of this is sustainable and it will come crashing down at some point, if it hasn't already | Sep 12 22:10 |
| psydroid | it might be good money, but what is it worth when you have to live like that | Sep 12 22:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wouldn't. | Sep 12 22:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mom's looking for cheap places to retire to. | Sep 12 22:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A lot of states don't tax your retirement or pension money. California does. | Sep 12 22:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody would move to California to retire unless they were so rich that the taxes were a small annoyance. | Sep 12 22:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wouldn't say so much that people are voting for Republicans necessarily because they hate gay people or something, but because they know what happens when the Democrats take your state over. | Sep 12 22:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The public sector is a wreck, the taxes go full tilt crazy. | Sep 12 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Illinois has quite a few government offices that shouldn't even exist. | Sep 12 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We have a separate treasurer and comptroller. | Sep 12 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Each with their own staff, offices, and payroll. | Sep 12 22:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Plus each of them gets a salary. | Sep 12 22:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even at the county level it's bad. We're throwing $200,000 in the trash each year to have a separate clerk and deed recorder. | Sep 12 22:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's someone's home. | Sep 12 22:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just her salary is property taxes (county portion) from over 400 residents. | Sep 12 22:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This all has a cost. Someone is paying for it. | Sep 12 22:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's been counted. Illinois has twice as many local units of government as Texas. | Sep 12 22:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With about 1/3rd as many people. | Sep 12 22:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Less than half the land area. | Sep 12 22:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's quite scandalous. The state passed a bill earlier this year to let counties dissolve "mosquito districts" and spray for mosquitoes themselves. | Sep 12 22:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's several hundred of those right there. | Sep 12 22:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I moved most of our money to "savings". | Sep 12 22:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 0.03%. Woohoo. | Sep 12 22:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | God I hate low Fed rates. | Sep 12 22:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Your money just rots. The alternative is invest in something where you could end up with nothing real fast. Like Tesla. | Sep 12 22:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The banks aren't making much money on deposit accounts, so they don't pay much. | Sep 12 22:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You might get $2 worth of interest that year. | Sep 12 22:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Generally the less liquid something is, the more interest it earns. But lately, savings accounts and 1 year CDs aren't far enough apart to not have immediate access to your money. | Sep 12 22:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's hard-er to find a bank account after bankruptcy, but someone will give you one, or you can just use one you already had. | Sep 12 22:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mom's credit union gave her the boot because they said they wouldn't do business with someone who has a bankruptcy on their credit report, but what really happened was she financed her last car through them and decided that it wasn't worth keeping in the bankruptcy, so they got it back and sold it at auction for like $1,400. She said she had $13,500 left on the loan. | Sep 12 22:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She said, "I think they were ridiculous for selling it that low and they only sent me that letter out of spite!". | Sep 12 22:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Auctioned cars don't go for anywhere near retail, and they sold it for what a 2012 Impala is going to get at a dealer auction. They sent you the letter because the law requires them to sell it quickly to minimize their loss, and send you a letter telling you what they got for it. Had you not filed bankruptcy and they had just gone out and repossessed it, you would now owe them $12,100 and you would not have | Sep 12 22:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | car. The value of the car basically just disappears. You're just not supposed to know that while you're signing the loan documents.". | Sep 12 22:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "If they sue for the remaining balance, you also get to pay for their lawyer and the court costs, so you end up owing basically what the car loan had on it, and you don't have a car, and your credit is ruined." | Sep 12 22:57 |
| psydroid | Buying new cars is just a hobby for rich people or those who pretend to be | Sep 12 22:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It can get a lot worse than bankruptcy. If they repo the car before you file bankruptcy, you can blow away the deficiency balance, but you re-emerge with a repo and a bankruptcy. | Sep 12 22:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So your credit will be about, ohhhh.......470 maybe? | Sep 12 22:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | By foisting the car onto John, ruining his finances when he had to stop it from going to auction, and then filing bankruptcy before he lost it again, I re-emerged with a 565 and he'll probably lose the car anyway. | Sep 12 22:59 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | So I played a really nasty trick on him as payback for the court thing last year, and then I filed bankruptcy when he started slipping on the payments again. | Sep 12 23:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | psydroid: I started getting phone calls from Kia 2-3 times a day again in April and they said the loan payment was overdue. | Sep 12 23:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | By law, they have to give you at least 30 days to make a payment before they report it to the credit bureau as a late payment. | Sep 12 23:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I got everything in order to file the bankruptcy, and e-filed it to get the automatic stay (where they can't take any negative action against you), and I got it on the court docket 2 days before they were going to hit my credit report with a 30 day late payment status. | Sep 12 23:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was like "Oh god. Well, 30 days late doesn't make much difference with 6 charged off credit cards, but it'll sting. If he loses the car to repo that'll make me re-emerge with a REALLY bad credit score.". | Sep 12 23:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the last straw was him slipping with the car. | Sep 12 23:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 565 isn't really where you need to be either, but I have a credit card again and as soon as that reports, I should be in the low 600s at least. | Sep 12 23:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's where landlords will talk to you. They'll want a big deposit, but they'll talk to you. | Sep 12 23:05 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Bankruptcy is kind of a double-edged sword. It says you had so many financial problems that you had to go there, but it also tells lenders that you have no more debt and can't do it again for a while. So you'll get all kinds of loan offers in your mailbox right away. | Sep 12 23:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It won't be great terms though. | Sep 12 23:06 |
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