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MinceRmaybe it makes it easier to replaceDec 12 00:00
DaemonFC[m]It does, because it's a BMW.Dec 12 00:00
DaemonFC[m]There's too much stuff under the engine to get to the filter if it was down there.Dec 12 00:00
DaemonFC[m]You can do an oil change on the Impala without a jack. It's just a lot harder.Dec 12 00:01
MinceRthen again, since it's like a hypePhone, make one should do "repairs" like one does on a hypePhoneDec 12 00:01
MinceRthrow the whole thing away and get a new oneDec 12 00:01
MinceRpreferably from a competitorDec 12 00:01
DaemonFC[m]MinceR How many people who need a software update so they don't leave the push button car running in the garage and kill everyone with Carbon Monoxide are changing their own oil?Dec 12 00:02
DaemonFC[m]There's just so many things wrong with pushbutton ignitions.Dec 12 00:04
DaemonFC[m]But of course BMW was doing that instead of a backup camera and Android Auto.Dec 12 00:04
MinceRanything other than the IT security issues of the associated keyless entry/start system?Dec 12 00:04
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, you can forget and leave the car running in the garage.Dec 12 00:05
DaemonFC[m]And be gassed by the Germans.Dec 12 00:05
DaemonFC[m]MinceR Sometimes people leave the spare transponder in the car or inside a wheel well.Dec 12 00:06
DaemonFC[m]With one of those magnet things.Dec 12 00:07
DaemonFC[m]So the thief can just jimmy the door open and drive off.Dec 12 00:07
MinceRyou can also forget to turn off a key-started engine and leave the key in thereDec 12 00:07
DaemonFC[m]It's harder.Dec 12 00:08
DaemonFC[m]Your car will chime at you if the door is open and the key is in the ignition.Dec 12 00:08
MinceRand it won't if the door is open and the engine is running?Dec 12 00:09
DaemonFC[m]The Prius didn't.Dec 12 00:09
MinceRs/make/maybe/Dec 12 00:09
MinceRwow, i can't type latelyDec 12 00:09
DaemonFC[m]I've never accidentally left the car running. I left it running intentionally a couple times in Indiana because the battery was shot and I was making my way up to get a new one.Dec 12 00:10
DaemonFC[m]The Ford dealer was doing an oil change on the Taurus and had to jump start it for me when I wouldn't buy a $240 car battery from them. (2005)Dec 12 00:11
DaemonFC[m]Took it across the street and bought a battery for $70 at Walmart.Dec 12 00:11
DaemonFC[m]MinceR I've done dealer oil changes on really old cars.Dec 12 00:12
DaemonFC[m]As long as it's that brand of car they honor the coupon.Dec 12 00:12
DaemonFC[m]If there's a problem, get it fixed somewhere else.Dec 12 00:13
MinceRunless the car is still under warranty :>Dec 12 00:13
DaemonFC[m]They do $25 semi synthetic oil changes at Ford so they can tell you what's wrong with the car and maybe get you to agree to their insane deficit tripling prices.Dec 12 00:13
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Did I understand you right that you sent chocolate-coated poop to your stepdad?Dec 12 00:14
DaemonFC[m]MinceR Semi synthetic is usually like $40 at a shop.Dec 12 00:14
DaemonFC[m]So I went to Ford.Dec 12 00:14
MinceRi don't think it was chocolate coatedDec 12 00:14
DaemonFC[m]No, it wasn't.Dec 12 00:15
DaemonFC[m]Just picked it up with gloves while I was walking the dog and put it in the little wrappers and then mailed it to him.Dec 12 00:15
XRevan86I stand corrected. Not the focus of the question though %).Dec 12 00:15
XRevan86Not technical implementationDec 12 00:16
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: What did he even do?Dec 12 00:16
DaemonFC[m]Broke our home.Dec 12 00:18
XRevan86You mean, financially broke the household?Dec 12 00:22
XRevan86Or applied misaligned hands to objects in the house?Dec 12 00:24
XRevan86Or tore the family apart?Dec 12 00:26
DaemonFC[m]Tore the family apart.Dec 12 00:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Funny story overheard at the stealership.Dec 12 00:29
DaemonFC[m]Who clears an oxygen sensor code to try to pass emissions?Dec 12 00:29
DaemonFC[m]The ECM won't allow the car to pass until it's been driven long enough for any codes to come back.Dec 12 00:29
DaemonFC[m]So it'll just say not ready and you waste everyone's time including yours.Dec 12 00:30
DaemonFC[m]And a bad O2 sensor causes gas guzzling and a car that runs like shit anyway.Dec 12 00:30
DaemonFC[m]Eventually it gets a lot more expensive than just fixing it.Dec 12 00:30
XRevan86schestowtz: um… the pic is not correct.Dec 12 00:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Today’s Example of Microsoft’s Faked ‘Love’ | TechrightsDec 12 00:35
DaemonFC[m]I'm hoping to get this Impala to at least 400,000 miles before I get rid of it.Dec 12 00:36
DaemonFC[m]I probably can.Dec 12 00:36
XRevan86schestowit: Office Communicator was rebranded as Lync, then that was rebranded as "Skype for Business", now this is rebranded as Teams. The only connection to Skype is the light blue colouring that was applied to the UI.Dec 12 00:37
XRevan86Long story short, Teams is not a Skype rebrand.Dec 12 00:37
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DaemonFC[m]The impeachment process is a smart idea.Dec 12 00:40
DaemonFC[m]The Senate would otherwise be confirming presidential appointments. This trial will stop that for at least a couple of months.Dec 12 00:41
DaemonFC[m]It took up the entire month of January and part of February in 1999 when it moved to the Senate.Dec 12 00:44
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR Brake pads aren't the most expensive job, but they're not giving them away.Dec 12 00:55
DaemonFC[m]I'd rather just go easy on them.Dec 12 00:56
DaemonFC[m]Which is probably why I go through cars more often than pads and rotors.Dec 12 00:56
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR Kilmer said there was a rich guy with a BMW whose accountant found had been billled for pads and rotors 5 times ovee 14,000 miles.Dec 12 00:57
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DaemonFC[m]So he called up the dealer and they said they just put new ones on now and then regardless of the mileage.Dec 12 00:57
DaemonFC[m]So they were taking pads that had only been worn down 2 or 3% and doing $900 brake jobs for no reason just to bilk this guy for all his money.Dec 12 00:58
DaemonFC[m]They do them on both axles even though you usually only actually need to replace the rear ones every other time.Dec 12 00:59
DaemonFC[m]It's a complete scam.Dec 12 00:59
DaemonFC[m]MinceR When pads actually need replacement they'll let you know.Dec 12 01:00
DaemonFC[m]They squeal. That's a feature so you know your pads only have like 15% of their surface area and you should get a brake job done right away.Dec 12 01:00
DaemonFC[m]I've actually ignored them down to about 5% before and they started clacking.Dec 12 01:01
DaemonFC[m]A lot of shops don't want to resurface rotors and will either tell you they're too far gone or that it would be a safety issue.Dec 12 01:06
DaemonFC[m]They just don't want to do it. It makes more money to sell you new rotors than it does to maxhine yours.Dec 12 01:07
DaemonFC[m]I forgot how much I liked driving cars without a bunch of modern technology on them.Dec 12 01:08
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DaemonFC[m]Some of these modern bearings like the ojes in a BMW have the ABS sensor built in.Dec 12 01:21
DaemonFC[m]So if you replace them with a cheap Chinese wheel bearing, you immediately get an ABS light.Dec 12 01:21
DaemonFC[m]It basically forces you to replace a bearing for a bad ABS sensor even if there's nothing mechanically wrong with the bearing, and a bad bearing means replacing a good ABS sensor.Dec 12 01:23
DaemonFC[m]Either way, the bearing and sensor are integrated forcing you to replace a good part within an integrated unit that costs much more than one or the other on a car that separates them.Dec 12 01:25
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insmodppacubexyz: I don't know, I run the squid proxy on a (newer) machine that gets updates so the old ones don't need to.Dec 12 02:27
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DaemonFC[m]Someone broke into mom's Facebook.Dec 12 03:16
DaemonFC[m]So I asked for her login and I'm going to change the password and then log everything out.Dec 12 03:16
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GNOME at the Back End and GNOME Shell 3.35.2 []Dec 12 03:28
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: madame harmon[e]?Dec 12 03:43
DaemonFC[m]Looks like Lenovo doesn't make batteries for this laptop anymore and I'm going to have to try a knock off from Amazon.Dec 12 03:49
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: I guess you don't have a proper repacker near you.Dec 12 03:51
DaemonFC[m]Bluetooth is basically useless except for wasting power and helping people download your sex tapes from your iPhone.Dec 12 03:52
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Apparently, Lenovo got so many complaints about "My battery only charges to 50%. WTF!?" that they removed the "feature" from their Windows drivers.Dec 12 03:54
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming Leftovers []Dec 12 03:57
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: VirtualBox 6.1 Officially Released with Linux Kernel 5.4 Support, Improvements []Dec 12 03:59
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Fedora and Red Hat: Fedora's Modularity Initiative, Git, Servers, Buildah and Ansible []Dec 12 04:09
schestowitz"Dec 12 04:15
schestowitzOff the record: xxxxxx relisted Startpage at his own website over a week ago: xxxxx At first, he had a "caution" sign with "ownership" in yellow that linked to the Startpage PR explanation for its sale to pay-per-click advertiser System1. Then he stopped pretending and simply removed all cautions. The guy is clearly lobbying for Startpage. I don't think Privacytools is doing this. xxxx is using Privacytools for his own ends and is trying to Dec 12 04:15
schestowitzbully people into supporting his mission.Dec 12 04:15
schestowitzBTW - what the heck happened to PrivacytoolsIO? Who are they? Who ever voted xxxx into being part of the team a couple of months ago?Dec 12 04:15
schestowitzYou'll see that xxxxx attacked xxxxxxxx on twittter just because she expressed interest in seeing his written justification for relisting Startpage. He's very sensitive about siding with Startpage. Very cagey about it.Dec 12 04:15
schestowitzThere are other threads, too.Dec 12 04:15
schestowitzBTW I don't think xxxx ever made a good case for relisting Startpage, even though he promised to do so. His logic would be clearly flawed if he tried since he somehow justifies delisting an open source service like Wire over similar issues, claiming Wire wasn't as open about its VC investment. What a lie! xxxxx is clueless -- or maybe he isn't and just needs to ignore the truth because he's desperate for another writing gig or payday.Dec 12 04:15
schestowitzThe sad thing is that people see someone like xxxxx supporting Startpage and have no idea it was sold to System1. If only there were a bot that would go to both Twitter Dec 12 04:15
schestowitz@startpagesearchDec 12 04:15
schestowitz and #Startpage and anyone who mentions them on Twitter so they are aware. Then people can make informed decisions.Dec 12 04:15
schestowitz"Dec 12 04:15 should be called out for their use of user tracking analytics.Dec 12 04:31
schestowitzgot a link on this?Dec 12 04:38
schestowitzWould be appreciatedDec 12 04:38
insmodppaIt's in the page source. They use matomo on all their pages including Searx (a huge red flag).Dec 12 04:42
insmodppaThe privacy policy is also not far removed from what other non-privacy respecting businesses have in that your data is "anonymized" and relevant bits kept forever for marketing/site development purposes. One can only wonder how profitable the post-Snowden privacy bandwagon is.Dec 12 04:53
oiaohminsmodppa: I guess a lot of companies will just set up operations in countries where those laws don't apply.Dec 12 04:56
insmodppaMy pet peeve with the post-Snowden era is that the opportunists have taken up the veil to market their own products while denigrating existing standards for user protection which were well in use before they came along. If they didn't reinvent the wheel, they subverted it so certain features work only with their programs a la IE, like that popular OMEMO-only XMPP client for Android.Dec 12 05:03
schestowitz[04:42] <insmodppa> It's in the page source. They use matomo on all their pages including Searx (a huge red flag).Dec 12 05:23
schestowitzsearx is OK, depending on where it's hostedDec 12 05:23
schestowitzsame for piwik Dec 12 05:23
schestowitzI wouldn't hold those against themDec 12 05:23
insmodppaSorry for being a bit vague, but what I meant was that Privacytools.Io uses Matomo on their Searx instance.Dec 12 06:12
insmodppa 12 06:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-search.privacytools.ioDec 12 06:14
schestowitzit can be self-hostedDec 12 06:14
schestowitzit often usDec 12 06:14
schestowitzboth the instance and piwikDec 12 06:14
schestowitzyou can check the IPsDec 12 06:14
schestowitzwork backwards to IP block and domain namespaceDec 12 06:14
schestowitzand see if it passes sanity checkDec 12 06:15
scientesXRevan86, is there a way to get the amount and destination of a transaction by SMS or similar with Mir and the chance to approve/deny it before it goes through?Dec 12 06:33
scientesI hear UnionPay allows thisDec 12 06:33
scienteswhile Visa/MasterCard are extremely insecure when it comes to online purchasesDec 12 06:33
scientesthey could hook online purchases up to your NFC phone, that could read the new chip, and that would make a very secure systemDec 12 06:33
scientesbut instead they have an extremely insecure systemDec 12 06:33
scientesThere was a bank in Georgia that issued UnionPay cards (Liberty bank) but do not now. I wonder why (American meddling in the Georgian banking sector?)Dec 12 06:34
MinceR 12 06:41
schestowitzthat's a gas!Dec 12 06:50
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schestowitzlolDec 12 07:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | A Look at Ubuntu on MINIX NEO G41V-4 and J50C-4 Mini PCsDec 12 07:53
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scientes 12 12:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Former Russian Diplomat: U.S. Presence in the Middle East Must Be Made Difficult and Costly - YouTubeDec 12 12:41
scientesoh god, it is english translated to arabic, translated back to englishDec 12 12:41
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psydroidlol, it is PersianDec 12 12:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Anton Nesterov (@AntNesterov) | NitterDec 12 14:12
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Feral Interactive, Fantasy Strike, GNU/Linux as Gaming Platform []Dec 12 16:02
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scientesXRevan86, 12 16:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Stock market soars to records after Trump signals imminent China-trade deal - MarketWatchDec 12 16:39
scientesthis makes me think of your "the bank is doing great" statementDec 12 16:39
XRevan86scientes: hehDec 12 16:41
scientesI mean, China loaded Venezuela up with debts that were in USD, but could only be paid in oilDec 12 16:41
scientesthe two currency debt trap is infamousDec 12 16:41
scientesbasically they are hedging on collapse of the USDec 12 16:41
*XRevan86 is trying to figure out why Sberbank/Rambler tries to pressure SysoyevDec 12 16:41
XRevan86Like F5 is going to care.Dec 12 16:42
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XRevan86 "Konovalov and Sysoyev are under questioning, now that's confirmed. The others aren't detained."Dec 12 16:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Igor Ippolitov (@igorippolitov) | NitterDec 12 16:44
XRevan86Under Russian law something made during work hours isn't automatically company property, unless there's a written order to make that; so the claim doesn't even make sense.Dec 12 16:45
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scientesinterestingDec 12 16:48
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XRevan86oops, 12 17:21
schestowitzsame linkDec 12 17:24
XRevan86schestowitz: almostDec 12 17:24
*XRevan86 remade as it's JPEG, Windows, Chrome and "совесть" won't be understood here.Dec 12 17:26
XRevan86Rambler really does use nginx.Dec 12 17:30
schestowitzmaybe they think it's theirsDec 12 17:33
XRevan86They never have, but now they suddenly do.Dec 12 17:34
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XRevan86Point is is that they benefit from nginx, the work done by all the people involved, and now try to sue their arses.Dec 12 17:37
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schestowitzsome charlatans claimed to own FBDec 12 18:20
schestowitzEven half a decade or more laterDec 12 18:21
XRevan86schestowitz: Were special forces involved?Dec 12 18:29
schestowitznoDec 12 18:33
schestowitz(neither was RUSHA)Dec 12 18:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectDec 12 19:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Vector W8 Is the Craziest Supercar Ever Made - YouTubeDec 12 20:11
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XRevan86MinceR: This smells fakeDec 12 22:21
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