●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, December 12, 2023 ●●
● Dec 12
[00:01]	TR News	'GTA' https://www.dw.com/en/grand-theft-auto-vi-why-is-there-such-a-hype-around-the-gta-games/a-67668202
[00:01]	TR Bot	is there such a hype around 'Grand Theft Auto VI'? DW 12/08/2023
[00:01]	TR News	Is this the most powerful generation of workers in decades? https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/is-this-the-most-powerful-generation-of-workers-in-decades-1.7048673gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/ralfwause/phlog/111223.txt
[00:02]	TR Bot	( status 404 @ https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/is-this-the-most-powerful-generation-of-workers-in-decades-1.7048673gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/ralfwause/phlog/111223.txt )
[00:02]	TR News	cryptocurrency https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/cryptocurrency-illicit-cannabis-trafficking-project-decrypt-1.7049482 http://techrights.org/o/2023/06/18/no-such-thing-as-cryptocurrency/
[00:02]	TR Bot	 Cannabis traffickers used cryptocurrency, 'barrels of honey or maple syrup' to cover tracks: Manitoba RCMP | CBC News
[00:02]	TR Bot	 There is No Such Thing as 'Cryptocurrency' and Please Stop Referring to It as Cryptocurrency
[00:05]	TR News	EU cash-for-influence scandal still far from over https://www.dw.com/en/qatargate-one-year-on-eu-cash-for-influence-scandal-still-far-from-over/a-67670541
[00:05]	TR Bot	one year on: EU corruption scandal still unsolved DW 12/08/2023
[00:06]	TR News	Are phones making teenagers depressed? https://www.dw.com/en/are-phones-making-teenagers-depressed/a-67647664
[00:06]	TR Bot	phones making teenagers depressed? DW 12/07/2023
[00:06]	TR News	Find motivation in an economy like this? https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canadian-students-pandemic-learning-match-science-reading-study-1.7049681
[00:06]	TR Bot	 Canadian students' math, reading scores have dropped since 2018 but study says it's not all COVID's fault | CBC News
[00:07]	TR News	Soaring cost of baby formula puts extra pressure on new parents https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/baby-formula-expensive-1.7048477
[00:07]	TR Bot	 Soaring cost of baby formula puts extra pressure on new parents | CBC News
[00:08]	TR News	Exiled leader says China is erasing Tibetan culture https://www.dw.com/en/exiled-leader-says-china-is-erasing-tibetan-culture/a-67659867
[00:08]	TR Bot	leader says China erases Tibetan culture DW 12/07/2023
[00:08]	TR News	skilled labor gap? or underpaid staff? https://www.dw.com/en/germany-a-new-scheme-to-fill-the-skilled-labor-gap/a-67650450
[00:08]	TR Bot	A new scheme to fill the skilled labor gap DW 12/07/2023
[00:10]	TR News	23andMe = Darwin test. Why did people give them data?? https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/23andme-data-breach-canadian-class-action-lawsuit-1.7049449
[00:10]	TR Bot	 'It scared the hell out of me,' says lead plaintiff in proposed class-action suit over data breach at 23andMe | CBC News
[00:13]	TR News	Germany's students fare worse than ever in PISA school tests https://www.dw.com/en/germany-s-students-fare-worse-than-ever-in-pisa-school-tests/a-67638952
[00:13]	TR Bot	students fare worse than ever in PISA school tests DW 12/05/2023
[00:14]	TR News	But not on oligarchs, who control and bribe WHO https://www.dw.com/en/who-calls-for-higher-taxes-on-alcohol-sugary-drinks/a-67642860
[00:14]	TR Bot	calls for higher taxes on alcohol, sugary drinks DW 12/05/2023
[00:19]	MinceR	why does red china want higher taxes?
[00:19]	MinceR	just to make life more difficult in the west?
[00:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[00:20]	DaemonFC	Same reason every government does I suppose.
[00:21]	TR News	Social control media addiction https://www.dw.com/en/social-media-addiction-how-can-we-avoid-it/a-67597997
[00:21]	TR Bot	media addiction: How can we avoid it? DW 12/02/2023
[00:21]	DaemonFC	Either spending is out of control and they want to pay for it without as much borrowing. -or- They use the tax code to control people.
[00:21]	DaemonFC	They take it and say you can have some back, but you can only use it for this, and only if you do that.
[00:21]	TR News	Turkish companies flee to Egypt as economy tanks at home https://www.dw.com/en/turkish-companies-flee-to-egypt-as-economy-tanks-at-home/a-67606182
[00:21]	TR Bot	economy tanks, Turkish companies eye Egypt DW 12/02/2023
[00:21]	DaemonFC	Or some of both.
[00:21]	DaemonFC	Take Mandy for example.
[00:22]	MinceR	yeah, but they might not necessarily obey this suggestion at home
[00:22]	DaemonFC	The government taxes us. It gives us most of it back if we save for retirement.
[00:22]	MinceR	they might not even let their slaves know about it
[00:22]	DaemonFC	MinceR, The government here has a lot of generous tax credits, but it doesn't exactly advertise them, at least the ones that benefit working people a little.
[00:23]	DaemonFC	They'd rather have the taxes and say they're encouraging people to save for retirement or upgrade their home's insulation or something.
[00:23]	DaemonFC	They could give a fuck if you're sleeping in a box in the winter until you die once you can't work anymore.
[00:23]	DaemonFC	But politicians like to say they have programs.
[00:23]	DaemonFC	So this lets them do both.
[00:24]	DaemonFC	MinceR, I think I'm just going to stick to 3,000 mile oil changes even with the extended drain filters and full synthetic oil.
[00:24]	DaemonFC	I keep having sludge rising to the top no matter what.
[00:24]	DaemonFC	I'm just going to call this engine the sludge factory.
[00:24]	DaemonFC	I'm considering doing another crankcase flush if this doesn't sort itself out soon.
[00:25]	DaemonFC	The shop offered to do one but the service writer couldn't tell me what they were going to use.
[00:25]	DaemonFC	I might just bring them one next time I'm there getting an oil change.
[00:26]	DaemonFC	I don't want Discount Bob's engine flush going in my car and breaking it all up and sending it right through the pickup screen, stripping absolutely everything that may be covering up small leaks.
[00:26]	DaemonFC	I mean, you can flush an engine out with almost anything you can imagine.
[00:26]	DaemonFC	Little bit of kerosene, little ATF....
[00:27]	DaemonFC	But the better flush solutions actually, they're just detergents, they're not some harsh solvent that's going to break up absolutely everything in there and damage seals while it's at it.
[00:27]	MinceR	a little song, a little dance
[00:27]	MinceR	batman's head on a lance
[00:27]	DaemonFC	The Germans have one of the better ones. Liqui Moly.
[00:28]	DaemonFC	I'm going to grab some and use it next time I think, or maybe their other one that's not a flush so much as you drive around with it for like 800 miles and then change the oil.
[00:28]	DaemonFC	You want to dissolve the crud that's sort of loosely stuck on without taking the older stuff that's hardened and plugging an oil leak.
[00:29]	TR News	 (NEW):   : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/11/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/11/Android_Leftovers.gmi 
[00:29]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[00:29]	TR News	"The scheduled release of Debian 12.3 today has been put on hold. This decision came after a bug was found in Linux kernel 6.1.64-1, which was linked to possible data corruption on systems with an ext4 file system." https://linuxiac.com/debian-12-3-kernel-bug-alert/
[00:29]	TR Bot	 Hold Off Debian Upgrades: Kernel 6.1.64 ext4 Bug Alert
[00:29]	TR News	 (NEW):  KDE Gear 23.08.4 Released as the Last Update in the Series http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/11/KDE_Gear_23_08_4_Released_as_the_Last_Update_in_the_Series.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/11/KDE_Gear_23_08_4_Released_as_the_Last_Update_in_the_Series.gmi 
[00:29]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines KDE Gear 23.08.4 Released as the Last Update in the Series
[00:30]	TR News	Kali Linux 2023.4 released: New tools, Kali for Raspberry Pi 5, and more! https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2023/12/05/kali-linux-2023-4-released/
[00:30]	TR Bot	 Kali Linux 2023.4 released: New tools, Kali for Raspberry Pi 5, and more! - Help Net Security
[00:30]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/today_s_leftovers.gmi 
[00:30]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[00:32]	TR News	"The Apache Struts project has released updates for the popular open-source web application framework, with fixes for a critical vulnerability that could lead to remote code execution (CVE-2023-50164)." https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2023/12/08/cve-2023-50164/
[00:32]	TR Bot	 New RCE vulnerability in Apache Struts 2 fixed, upgrade ASAP (CVE-2023-50164) - Help Net Security
[00:32]	TR News	"Scammers are hijacking hotels Booking.com accounts and using them as part of a hotel booking scam aimed at tricking guests into sharing their payment card information." https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2023/12/04/booking-com-hotel-booking-scam/
[00:32]	TR Bot	 Booking.com customers targeted in hotel booking scam - Help Net Security
[00:33]	TR News	 (NEW):  Ethical Hacking Distro Kali Linux 2023.4 Brings Support for Raspberry Pi 5 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/05/Ethical_Hacking_Distro_Kali_Linux_2023_4_Brings_Support_for_Ras.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/05/Ethical_Hacking_Distro_Kali_Linux_2023_4_Brings_Support_for_Ras.gmi 
[00:33]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Ethical Hacking Distro Kali Linux 2023.4 Brings Support for Raspberry Pi 5
[00:33]	TR News	They can also use new vulns https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2023/12/05/apt28-poland-cve-2023-23397/
[00:33]	TR Bot	 Russian hackers use old Outlook vulnerability to target Polish orgs (CVE-2023-23397) - Help Net Security
[00:37]	TR News	 (NEW):  Microsoft People Control People From Within ('Secure' Boot and BSOD) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/09/Microsoft_People_Control_People_From_Within_Secure_Boot_and_BSO.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/09/Microsoft_People_Control_People_From_Within_Secure_Boot_and_BSO.gmi 
[00:37]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Microsoft People Control People From Within ('Secure' Boot and BSOD)
[00:39]	TR News	 (NEW):  Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Security_Leftovers.gmi 
[00:39]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
[00:40]	TR News	"While working on creating a directory-like hierarchy for an application at work, I stumbled upon a series of questions that left me puzzled" https://snehasishroy.medium.com/basics-of-linux-filesystem-c6fb8dd666c3
[00:40]	TR Bot	 Basics of Linux FileSystem | Medium
[00:41]	TR News	Techrights Links 12/12/2023: Students' Performance Collapses, Software Patents Getting Harder http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/12/Links_12_12_2023_Students_Performance_Collapses_Software_Patent.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/12/Links_12_12_2023_Students_Performance_Collapses_Software_Patent.gmi 
[00:41]	TR Bot	 Techrights Links 12/12/2023: Students' Performance Collapses, Software Patents Getting Harder
[00:41]	TR News	OpenTofu: Open-source alternative to Terraform https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2023/12/07/opentofu-open-source-alternative-to-terraform/
[00:41]	TR Bot	 OpenTofu: Open-source alternative to Terraform - Help Net Security
[00:46]	TR News	Linux Kernel Vulnerabilities Addressed in EOL Ubuntu Systems https://tuxcare.com/blog/linux-kernel-vulnerabilities-addressed-in-eol-ubuntu-systems/
[00:46]	TR Bot	 Linux Kernel Vulnerabilities Addressed in EOL Ubuntu Systems
[00:47]	TR News	Security updates for Monday https://lwn.net/Articles/954449/
[00:47]	TR Bot	updates for Monday [LWN.net]
[00:52]	TR News	Did Akumin experience two cyber attacks in October and November? It has only acknowledged one. https://www.databreaches.net/did-akumin-experience-two-cyber-attacks-in-october-and-november-it-has-only-acknowledged-one/
[00:52]	TR Bot	 Did Akumin experience two cyber attacks in October and November? It has only acknowledged one.
[00:52]	TR News	 (NEW):  Solving the Looming Developer Liability Problem http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Solving_the_Looming_Developer_Liability_Problem.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Solving_the_Looming_Developer_Liability_Problem.gmi 
[00:52]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Solving the Looming Developer Liability Problem
[00:52]	TR News	FCC Partners With States to Increase on Privacy and Data Protection Investigations, Signaling Increased Focus on Future Enforcement https://www.natlawreview.com/article/fcc-partners-states-increase-privacy-and-data-protection-investigations-signaling
[00:52]	TR Bot	 FCC Privacy and Data Protection Task Force State MOU
[00:53]	TR News	It was patched ages ago; this helps distract from many ongoing Microsoft breaches https://cyberscoop.com/north-korea-lazarus-log4j-log4shell/
[00:53]	TR Bot	Korean hacking ops continue to exploit Log4Shell | CyberScoop
[00:54]	TR News	"So whats the purpose of these threats? Is it to distract attention to physical security while something is going on in the network?" https://www.databreaches.net/multiple-ohio-schools-receive-threats-believed-to-be-russian-hackers-saying-bombs-are-in-schools/
[00:54]	TR Bot	 Multiple Ohio schools receive threats, believed to be Russian hackers, saying bombs are in schools
[00:57]	DaemonFC	MinceR, I tend to shift around between synthetic motor oils depending on what crude is doing when I'm out buying stuff.
[00:58]	DaemonFC	If crude oil goes sky high, so do all motor oil jugs that are made using it as a base.
[00:59]	DaemonFC	Sometimes, Pennzoil Platinum can still cost $24-26 per five quarts when all of the Group III+ synthetics derived from crude have hit $40 a bottle or more.
[00:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[00:59]	DaemonFC	Like what happened right after the Russia-Ukraine War broke out and gasoline got up over $5 a gallon.
● Dec 12
[01:00]	DaemonFC	You can use natural gas-derived synthetic motor oil and bypass price hikes on other oils that way.
[01:00]	DaemonFC	If the United States had any sense at all, it would be making gasoline out of things other than oil.
[01:00]	DaemonFC	Like coal.
[01:01]	DaemonFC	Rather than being at the whim of whatever Putin and the fucking Arabs are up to, we could just commit to a stable price of about $4 a gallon and keep the jobs and money in this country.
[01:01]	DaemonFC	No American president has ever been that smart.
[01:10]	schestowitz	jrmu: thanks for the feedback, i'll share with an admin
[01:10]	schestowitz	we need any input we can get on how to oprganise the site
[01:10]	schestowitz	we basically do it all our own way
[01:10]	schestowitz	with our code
[01:10]	schestowitz	and do it slowly
[01:10]	schestowitz	wordpress and drupal have their limits
[01:10]	schestowitz	and we're big enough to make our own 'CMS'
[01:12]	jrmu	cool
[01:12]	jrmu	so the trademark thing is kind of funny
[01:12]	jrmu	I was reading lunduke's article on it
[01:12]	schestowitz	rust's?
[01:12]	schestowitz	to me it is the lesser issue
[01:12]	schestowitz	RMS kept bringing it up
[01:12]	jrmu	https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-rust-foundation-goes-to-war-against
[01:12]	TR Bot	 The Rust Foundation goes to war against people using the word "Rust"
[01:12]	jrmu	yeah
[01:12]	schestowitz	i can finsd you 10 relevant old posts
[01:12]	schestowitz	to be clear
[01:12]	schestowitz	i was open to rust
[01:12]	jrmu	I'm just curious if they actually tried to enforce this
[01:12]	jrmu	it's quite amusing
[01:12]	schestowitz	around 2020 an insider came to me
[01:13]	schestowitz	and told me what had happened
[01:13]	schestowitz	so i changed my mind
[01:13]	jrmu	is rust bluffing or are they serious
[01:13]	schestowitz	and te project too proved him irhgt
[01:13]	schestowitz	rms says fork it
[01:13]	schestowitz	and call it "crust"
[01:13]	jrmu	you'd have to call it crust or something lol
[01:13]	schestowitz	or something along those lines
[01:13]	schestowitz	I can give you the link
[01:13]	jrmu	sounds like a real headache
[01:13]	schestowitz	 it ois a video
[01:13]	schestowitz	i think he wrote about it too
[01:13]	jrmu	yeah I saw your post on the RMS comment about crust
[01:14]	jrmu	in practice this means openbsd is not going to include rust
[01:14]	schestowitz	it happened before
[01:14]	jrmu	they had this trademark dispute with pale moon
[01:14]	schestowitz	rms saw it
[01:14]	jrmu	and they just stopped porting pale moon
[01:14]	schestowitz	remember java(r)
[01:14]	schestowitz	or firefox(tm)
[01:14]	jrmu	I can't figure out why they are so litigious
[01:14]	schestowitz	did they?
[01:14]	jrmu	yeah
[01:14]	schestowitz	btw, see postgres
[01:14]	schestowitz	they have TM dispute
[01:15]	schestowitz	update days ago:
[01:15]	jrmu	https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86
[01:15]	TR Bot	Moon Official Branding Violation Issue #86 jasperla/openbsd-wip GitHub
[01:15]	schestowitz	http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/08/Updates_on_trademark_actions_against_the_PostgreSQL_community.shtml
[01:15]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Updates on trademark actions against the PostgreSQL community
[01:15]	schestowitz	i heard firefox was not happy about librewolf
[01:15]	schestowitz	but fox is not a wolf
[01:15]	schestowitz	and firefox is red panda
[01:16]	schestowitz	not fox
[01:16]	schestowitz	the logo at least
[01:16]	schestowitz	and they stepped on other people's TMs
[01:16]	schestowitz	like the days of Phoenix
[01:16]	schestowitz	in the early 2000s iirc
[01:16]	TR News	 (NEW):  "Master" and "Main" Branch Not Just About Words Anymore http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/_Master_and_Main_Branch_Not_Just_About_Words_Anymore.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/_Master_and_Main_Branch_Not_Just_About_Words_Anymore.gmi 
[01:16]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines "Master" and "Main" Branch Not Just About Words Anymore
[01:16]	schestowitz	i was a student at the time and did not pay close attention
[01:16]	schestowitz	but you can find the full story online
[01:16]	schestowitz	not in Gates-funded Wikipedia
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[01:17]	schestowitz	hello mib_633f6q 
[01:17]	schestowitz	btw, kiwi irc seems dead
[01:17]	schestowitz	they barely make their hosted instances work
[01:18]	schestowitz	and not many commits either
[01:18]	schestowitz	so i assume they gave up
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[01:18]	schestowitz	Andrew lee funded prawnsalad for a while
[01:18]	jrmu	is there anything besides the trademark that bothers you about rust?
[01:18]	schestowitz	then they thre in the towel
[01:18]	schestowitz	jrmu: yes
[01:18]	schestowitz	there are several issues
[01:18]	schestowitz	rust
[01:18]	schestowitz	rust community
[01:18]	schestowitz	rust legal
[01:18]	schestowitz	rust hosting
[01:18]	schestowitz	rust in linus
[01:19]	schestowitz	*linux
[01:19]	schestowitz	not the same issues
[01:19]	schestowitz	C++ is managed better
[01:19]	schestowitz	and no single company controls it
[01:19]	jrmu	ok, all documented on your site right?
[01:19]	schestowitz	jrmu: yes, more or less
[01:19]	jrmu	alright will read, thanks
[01:19]	schestowitz	but we are not suure how to seam together thee info
[01:19]	schestowitz	itr is a long term challenge
[01:19]	schestowitz	we also need to sort out funding
[01:20]	schestowitz	i have a hosting bill next week
[01:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[01:20]	schestowitz	over 1000 pounds
[01:20]	schestowitz	i have the invoice, feel guilty about asking people to help fund it, esp. readers, totally voluntary though
[01:21]	schestowitz	you had a similar issue with your IRCNow HV (freebsd)
[01:21]	schestowitz	and i can relate
[01:21]	jrmu	yeah it is expensive :(
[01:21]	schestowitz	we spoke about this beore
[01:21]	schestowitz	it's not cheap
[01:21]	jrmu	yeah, we could have gone with something cheaper like OVH, but I was afraid they'd deplatform us
[01:21]	schestowitz	2 sites, 2 gemini capsules, irc, and git... we managed to consolidate them all into a single host
[01:21]	schestowitz	but it is not cheap
[01:21]	jrmu	the big providers don't really care about you
[01:21]	schestowitz	yes, there is the issue up "upstream" censorship
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[01:22]	schestowitz	like ircnow has some vm with some idiotsaying sometrhingh bad
[01:22]	schestowitz	people gang up against webhost
[01:22]	schestowitz	and try to make your life harder
[01:22]	schestowitz	not a new problem
[01:22]	schestowitz	irc is not  "pending approval"
[01:22]	schestowitz	any idiot can say anything
[01:22]	schestowitz	any idiot can even post CP link or promote terrorism
[01:22]	schestowitz	worse yet
[01:23]	schestowitz	if you raise funds for the server
[01:23]	schestowitz	you can be censored by the payment processor
[01:23]	schestowitz	so that's another layer of censorship
[01:23]	schestowitz	by defunding
[01:23]	jrmu	yeah :(
[01:23]	schestowitz	banks censor sometimes 
[01:23]	schestowitz	like British banks censored russian media accounts years before the invasion
[01:24]	schestowitz	see what happened to nina paley
[01:24]	DaemonFC	MinceR, Amusingly, FRAM calls their cheapest shittiest oil filter the Extra Guard.
[01:24]	schestowitz	https://www.dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2023/01/17/nina-paley-v-cancel-culture/
[01:24]	TR Bot	 Nina Paley v. Cancel Culture - The Daily Cartoonist
[01:24]		*MinceR gives voice to ilya
[01:24]	schestowitz	"Animator (Sita Sings the Blues), comic strip creator (The Hots), and all-round cartoonist Nina Paley had her most recent effort to self-publish foiled by IndieGoGo. "
[01:24]	schestowitz	say you give iban/paypal (some people recognise it as a notorious and censorious payment processor, with the same for some crowdfunding sites that get pressured into political censorship)
[01:24]	DaemonFC	Unsurprisingly to me, it lets about ten times more particles in the smaller to medium size than the Ultra or Endurance.
[01:24]	schestowitz	then what?
[01:24]	schestowitz	you can still have all money raised confiscated
[01:25]	schestowitz	for political reasonsd
[01:25]	DaemonFC	Their engine air filters are similarly awful.
[01:25]	DaemonFC	They're only about $1 cheaper than AC Delco and let in about twice as much dirt.
[01:25]	schestowitz	and over time it gets worse
[01:25]	schestowitz	the climate gets worse, not bettere
[01:25]	DaemonFC	FRAM sells to the entire market it seems.
[01:25]	DaemonFC	The more expensive air and oil filters are respectable. The cheaper ones are garbage.
[01:26]	schestowitz	https://blog.ninapaley.com/2023/01/06/indiegogo-cancels-agents-of-h-a-g/
[01:26]	TR Bot	 IndieGoGo cancels Agents of H.A.G. - Nina Paley
[01:26]	schestowitz	"
[01:26]	schestowitz	    IndieGoGo just canceled  Agents of H.A.G, my first comic book in 30 years, AFTER the campaign successfully ended with 150% of goal. I already ordered books from the printer. Now all the money, all the orders, gone. No appeal, just gone.
[01:26]	schestowitz	"
[01:26]	schestowitz	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TiAHoM1BDrY
[01:26]	TR Bot	 WATCH: Cartoonist Nina Paley takes down comic book cancel culture | National Report - Invidious
[01:26]	schestowitz	2023
[01:26]	schestowitz	question to allm,
[01:27]	schestowitz	which is worse?
[01:27]	DaemonFC	The review I saw noted that the Endurance has less capacity for contaminants than the less expensive filters, but it also filters more particles until it is clogged, and it's less restrictive on the oil flow until it's clogged.
[01:27]	schestowitz	paypal or national banks?
[01:27]	DaemonFC	I would never leave an oil filter on my engine for "25,000 miles".
[01:27]	schestowitz	when it comess to censorship of payment processing?
[01:27]	jrmu	paypal is much worse AFAIK
[01:27]	schestowitz	so i heard
[01:27]	jrmu	I think banks you have some legal protection
[01:27]	DaemonFC	As long as you're changing the oil every 5,000-6,000 miles none of these will get clogged.
[01:27]	schestowitz	kaniini boycotted it for a while, iirc
[01:27]	DaemonFC	So I'll probably stick with the Endurance.
[01:28]	DaemonFC	I would like to see someone who does go 25,000 miles sue FRAM though.
[01:28]	schestowitz	not too long ago patreon and others did the same
[01:28]	DaemonFC	This is a pretty idiotic claim on the box.
[01:28]	schestowitz	i forgot the finer details
[01:28]	schestowitz	but they too censor a lot
[01:28]	schestowitz	they can also go under
[01:28]	schestowitz	some have mass layoffs
[01:28]	schestowitz	banks would get bailed out
[01:29]	DaemonFC	The synthetic media seems to have advantages and drawbacks. The advantages are it filters more efficiently, preventing engine wear and sludge better. The drawbacks are "NO! Do not leave this on your engine for 25,000 miles!" and price.
[01:29]	schestowitz	Stripe https://stripe.com/gb/legal/restricted-businesses
[01:30]	TR Bot	 Restricted Business
[01:30]	DaemonFC	Also, until it's clogged, you're going to have easier starts and less wear and tear on the oil pump, because it takes less force to put a given volume of oil through the filter and get it to the engine.
[01:30]	schestowitz	"Last updated: May 2023
[01:30]	schestowitz	Use of Stripe's services for any dealings, engagement, or sale of goods/services linked directly or indirectly with jurisdictions Stripe has deemed high risk, such as Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Syria, and the Crimea, Donetsk, and Luhansk Regions, or persons Stripe has deemed high risk, such as those individuals or entities named to a restricted person or party list of the U.S., United Kingdom, European Union or United Nations, including 
[01:30]	schestowitz	the sanctions lists maintained by the U.S. Office of Foreign Assets Control or the Denied Persons List or Entity List maintained by the U.S. Department of Commerce, is prohibited. "
[01:30]	schestowitz	so if your mama is from Iran, watch out
[01:30]	schestowitz	you are presumed guilty
[01:30]	DaemonFC	I'd say it's a damned good filter (the endurance) as long as you're not going more than 6,000 miles between oil changes. Someone let the marketing dept too close to the product.
[01:30]	schestowitz	according to US and UK
[01:30]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/o/2019/07/28/linux-foundation-microsoft-outsourcing/
[01:30]	TR Bot	 People From Half a Dozen Countries May be Banned From Participating in the Linux Foundation Because It's Outsourcing Many Projects to Microsoft/GitHub
[01:31]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2021/08/20/we-build-fedora-and-then-ibm-blacklists-us/
[01:31]	TR Bot	 Imperialistic Blacklist Machines: Racist IBM and Red Hat -- Just Like Donald Trump -- Have Turned Fedora Into an Utterly Racist Project That Blacklists, Shuns and Permanently Bans People Based on Their Nationality Alone
[01:31]	schestowitz	"Additionally, it is prohibited to use Stripe's products and services to directly or indirectly export, reexport, sell, or supply accounting, trust and corporate formation, management consulting services, architecture services or engineering services to any person located in Russia. Further, it is prohibited to use Stripes products and services directly or indirectly related to any goods prohibited by law (e.g. luxury goods) from Ru
[01:31]	schestowitz	ssia. "
[01:31]	schestowitz	"Products and services that infringe intellectual property rights"
[01:31]	schestowitz	so vague
[01:31]	schestowitz	trademarks?
[01:31]	schestowitz	copyrights?
[01:31]	schestowitz	patents?
[01:32]	DaemonFC	I did get a mountain of coffee today.
[01:32]	schestowitz	if someone says I infringe a patent?
[01:32]	schestowitz	will strive throw me under the buss?
[01:32]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: i did too
[01:32]	DaemonFC	Some people might say I overdid this.
[01:32]	schestowitz	1-litre kettle just now
[01:32]	schestowitz	with vanilla topping
[01:32]	DaemonFC	That's not a bad price on Colombian coffee.
[01:33]	DaemonFC	There is only so much of Colombia to grow coffee in, but mainly if it wasn't for inefficient agriculture and government corruption, there'd be more.
[01:33]	schestowitz	"You must not use Stripes services for the following activities, unless you have received our prior written approval. Restricted Business categories may be imposed through card network rules, requirements of financial partners, or due to compliance and legal obligations. If your business falls into one of the restricted categories, please contact us. We are here to help!"
[01:33]	DaemonFC	But it's easy to blame "climate change".
[01:33]	schestowitz	And they keep changing their terms
[01:33]	DaemonFC	Wooooo!!!! WOOOOOOOO!!!!!
[01:33]	schestowitz	even this year!
[01:33]	jrmu	yeah banks have FDIC protection in the USA
[01:33]	schestowitz	"
[01:33]	schestowitz	    CBD products containing negligible amounts of THC
[01:33]	schestowitz	"
[01:33]	jrmu	the fintech companies can arbitrarily seize assets, I don't think banks can do that
[01:33]	schestowitz	CBD is legal in many places
[01:34]	DaemonFC	The climate change wooo woooo crowd said that the end of coffee was probably no more than five years away, in 1974....
[01:34]	schestowitz	this page is huge CBD
[01:34]	schestowitz	https://stripe.com/gb/legal/restricted-businesses
[01:34]	TR Bot	 Restricted Business
[01:34]	DaemonFC	Lester R. Brown, the man who wrote The State of the World publications for the UN for many years and got all kinds of "awards".
[01:34]	DaemonFC	Said there'd be no more coffee by 1980.
[01:34]	schestowitz	CBD is one of hundreds of mine fields
[01:34]	DaemonFC	And they still published him into the 2000s.
[01:34]	schestowitz	and the page keeps getting longer
[01:34]	DaemonFC	And gave him more awards.
[01:35]	schestowitz	"things you might do to lose your account and money"
[01:35]	DaemonFC	When you're part of the climate hoax, you never stop getting awards from these people.
[01:35]	schestowitz	with rules for each country
[01:35]	schestowitz	and some global
[01:35]	DaemonFC	Even though there won't be any more coffee by 1980.
[01:35]	schestowitz	you can run afoul of anything
[01:35]	schestowitz	everyone is guilty, just a matter of selective enforcement
[01:35]	schestowitz	like perjury by some autist in Ontario
[01:35]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Think anyone would give me money if I said the shit?
[01:35]	schestowitz	making a false accuasation
[01:36]	DaemonFC	That you need to eat bugs because there won't be any more coffee after 1980?
[01:36]	schestowitz	saying rianne "doxed" because she merely took a screenshot of a PUBLIC web page
[01:36]	DaemonFC	Here we are 43 years after 1980 and I have a lot of coffee.
[01:36]	DaemonFC	You can find it at any grocery store.
[01:36]	schestowitz	classmates
[01:36]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: i have two shelve devotes to coffee
[01:36]	schestowitz	it will last years
[01:36]	schestowitz	about 300 filters
[01:36]	DaemonFC	Brandon Lobster and Matt GULAG probably don't have any coffee.
[01:36]	DaemonFC	The world ran out in 1980, due to climate change.
[01:36]	schestowitz	30 coffee bags
[01:37]	schestowitz	and other tools and things
[01:37]	schestowitz	got them very cheaply
[01:37]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: they have "evil coffee"
[01:37]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, They blamed climate change for government corruption and a freak frost that set in and ruined the harvest one year, in the 70s.
[01:37]	schestowitz	illegal drugs + autism = toxic personality
[01:37]	schestowitz	burning women
[01:37]	schestowitz	one after the other
[01:38]	schestowitz	then trying to burn one's "past" identity
[01:38]	schestowitz	to evade the great shame
[01:38]	schestowitz	no wonder the "keith" stopry strucka  choird
[01:38]	schestowitz	*story struck
[01:38]	DaemonFC	The schestowitz From the 1930s to the 1970s, routinely was there such an overabundance of coffee that they sold it cheaply and when they couldn't make it cheaper, they took it out of the stockpile and burned it.
[01:38]	DaemonFC	Had they not burned the stockpile, there wouldn't have been any coffee shortages after the frost.
[01:39]	schestowitz	yes, see this:
[01:39]	DaemonFC	They could have written off the crops they lost due to the frost and drawn beans out of this "strategic coffee reserve".
[01:39]	schestowitz	<techrights-news> EU approves ban on destruction of unsold clothing https://www.dw.com/en/eu-approves-ban-on-destruction-of-unsold-clothing/a-67641000
[01:39]	TR Bot	approves ban on destruction of unsold clothing DW 12/05/2023
[01:39]	schestowitz	context:
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[01:39]	schestowitz	https://ww.fashionnetwork.com/news/Other-luxury-brands-under-scrutiny-after-burberry-stock-burn-revelations,999981.html
[01:39]	TR Bot	 Other luxury brands under scrutiny after Burberry stock burn revelations
[01:39]	DaemonFC	Coffee can be stored for a long time if you don't grind the beans.
[01:39]	schestowitz	https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44885983
[01:39]	TR Bot	burns bags, clothes and perfume worth millions - BBC News
[01:40]	schestowitz	https://www.forbes.com/sites/oliviapinnock/2018/07/20/no-one-in-fashion-is-surprised-burberry-burnt-28-million-of-stock/
[01:40]	TR Bot	 No One In Fashion Is Surprised Burberry Burnt 28 Million Of Stock
[01:40]	DaemonFC	What makes it start going bad is grinding the beans.
[01:40]	schestowitz	rolex did it differently
[01:40]	schestowitz	it limited how many items it mad
[01:40]	DaemonFC	You can store whole beans, vacuum sealed, for 7-10 YEARS.
[01:40]	schestowitz	created bogus "waiting list"
[01:40]	DaemonFC	Industrially.
[01:40]	schestowitz	but nothing burned 
[01:40]	schestowitz	to fake "demand"
[01:40]	schestowitz	and keep prices high
[01:41]	DaemonFC	Once you grind it, even vacuum sealed, it only lasts about 6-7 months past hitting the grocery store shelf.
[01:41]	schestowitz	https://old.reddit.com/r/rolex/comments/r3sdbb/waitlists_arent_real/
[01:41]	TR Bot	 Waitlists arent real : rolex
[01:41]	DaemonFC	For peak freshness anyway.
[01:41]	schestowitz	https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/22/fashion/watches-waiting-lists-zenith-rolex.html
[01:41]	TR Bot	 Want a New Watch? Put Your Name Right Here. - The New York Times
[01:41]	schestowitz	https://www.quora.com/Does-Rolex-have-a-waiting-list-to-buy-their-watches
[01:41]	TR Bot	Rolex have a waiting list to buy their watches? - Quora
[01:41]	DaemonFC	Truth be told even ground coffee is fine for another 6-7 months after the date as long as nothing has compromised the vacuum seal.
[01:42]	DaemonFC	It's when you open ground coffee that you're in big trouble if you don't consume it within a few weeks.
[01:42]	schestowitz	when opened
[01:42]	DaemonFC	Right.
[01:42]	schestowitz	some bags use vacuum
[01:42]	DaemonFC	The bags are less reliable.
[01:42]	schestowitz	some have air but no way out
[01:43]	DaemonFC	Warehouse incidents and stuff.
[01:43]	schestowitz	some have a breathing hole
[01:43]	DaemonFC	You know what Amazon did?
[01:43]	schestowitz	depends on the brand
[01:43]	DaemonFC	I ordered bagged coffee they had real cheap "Like New" in Warehouse Deals.
[01:43]	DaemonFC	So they send it.
[01:43]	schestowitz	right
[01:43]	DaemonFC	And they blew up the bag, then put it in plastic again.
[01:43]	schestowitz	i keep many blends around
[01:43]	DaemonFC	And there was coffee everywhere, so stale it smelled like cigarettes.
[01:43]	DaemonFC	So however long it takes that to happen.
[01:43]	schestowitz	built a large collection of tea and coffee
[01:43]	schestowitz	acquired on the cheap
[01:44]	DaemonFC	And then they tried not to let me return it.
[01:44]	DaemonFC	Until I said cancel my account, and then they said okay but this is an exception to our policy./
[01:44]	schestowitz	bad coffee is bad befoe or after Best Before
[01:44]	schestowitz	good  coffee is good before or after Best Before
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[01:44]	schestowitz	mine are 2024 and 25
[01:45]	schestowitz	but they still offload them
[01:45]	schestowitz	some are amazon returns, unopened
[01:45]	schestowitz	turns out some forget to remove the labels
[01:45]	DaemonFC	I guess we'll see when I get to the Gevalia Colombian.
[01:45]	schestowitz	and reveal who returned those
[01:45]	DaemonFC	If Kraft-Heinz has done something with it since I had Gevalia coming in the mail each month.
[01:45]	schestowitz	<techrights-news> Products returned to Amazon found at Toronto liquidation stores along with buyers' personal info https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/amazon-returns-privacy-1.7048409
[01:45]	TR Bot	 Products returned to Amazon found at Toronto liquidation stores along with buyers' personal info | CBC News
[01:46]	DaemonFC	I have some Tim Horton's and a few small bags of Seattle's Best Portside Blend to go through.
[01:46]	DaemonFC	But those tiny 12 ounce bags never last long.
[01:46]	TR News	2023 Layoff Tracker: Hasbro Cuts 1,100 Employees https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/12/11/2023-layoff-tracker-hasbro-cuts-1100-employees/ merry xmas!
[01:46]	TR Bot	 2023 Layoff Tracker: Hasbro Cuts 1,100 Employees
[01:47]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Hasbro should reinvent itself.
[01:47]	DaemonFC	With a tech bro.
[01:47]	DaemonFC	Then they can be AI.
[01:47]	TR News	Reuters: "Hasbro said on Monday it would cut about 900 more jobs, as the toymaker struggles with weaker toy sales. The maker of Transformers action figures, the Dungeons & Dragons fantasy game and Monopoly said it expected layoffs to be substantially completed over the next 18 to 24 months."
[01:47]	DaemonFC	And bring 1,100 people back until the Saudi Crown Prince quits funding it.
[01:48]	DaemonFC	Didn't we find out that Matthew Garrett is working for a company partially owned by the Saudi sovereign fund?
[01:48]	DaemonFC	I wonder what they'd do to him and ISIS in Saudi Arabia.
[01:49]	TR News	Two hours ago on Microsoft Azure LAYOFFS: "It's true, I know some people layed off, and it's not as if the engineering teams think their software is properly tested anyway. Senior managers making decisions with little understanding of the underlying reality." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1pfObb7I#replies
[01:49]	TR Bot	 Layoffs in Azure Org (A4O) - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs
[01:49]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Walmart gave me a crushed can of Rotel tomatoes today.
[01:49]	DaemonFC	Their quality assurance in online grocery pickup cratered a while ago.
[01:50]	DaemonFC	Now there's almost always something crushed or missing and you have to argue with people to get them to fix it or give you your money.
[01:50]	DaemonFC	Cans this crushed should have been sent to the claims department before they were ever stocked.
[01:50]	DaemonFC	Then when a picker goes by, they're not supposed to pick any cans that have been severely dented.
[01:51]	DaemonFC	So you have to have several people ignoring what they've been told to do to get this many dented cans on the shelf.
[01:51]	schestowitz	Phoronix says "PayPal and Stripe are the preferred means of handling these transactions. "
[01:51]	schestowitz	it outsourced to these
[01:51]	DaemonFC	It's not that big a deal as a stocker. I used to do this. You have something damaged you send it to claims.
[01:51]	DaemonFC	It was a crying shame one night.
[01:51]	DaemonFC	You're not allowed to eat anything that's been damaged even if it's perfectly safe.
[01:52]	schestowitz	yes
[01:52]	DaemonFC	So I had to stand there throwing about $700 worth of frozen cheesecake and ice cream in the dumpsta with da lobsta. (And down the drain.)
[01:52]	schestowitz	like, if the seal of some chicken is broken
[01:52]	schestowitz	they are legally obliged to toss is in the bin
[01:52]	schestowitz	even if it only rips in checkout
[01:52]	schestowitz	which happened to us many years ago
[01:52]	schestowitz	they cannot sell it
[01:52]	DaemonFC	Well, it was a perfectly good cheesecake sampler. It was frozen and there was a side that hadn't been crushed.
[01:53]	schestowitz	for fear of food poisoning liability
[01:53]	schestowitz	it's crazy
[01:53]	schestowitz	they throw it away
[01:53]	DaemonFC	Someone rammed it with a forklift or something.
[01:53]	DaemonFC	Then sent it to the store.
[01:53]	schestowitz	if the till handler rips the plastic a little
[01:53]	DaemonFC	So like less than 10% of the product was damaged.
[01:53]	DaemonFC	And even then cheesecake wasn't cheap.
[01:53]	DaemonFC	It was like $9.98 for these cheesecake samplers, each, in 2005.
[01:54]	schestowitz	wow, it's a bit depressing to see how sites outsourced their fund-raising to these bad companies
[01:54]	schestowitz	patreon, paypal etc.
[01:54]	DaemonFC	So one by one here goes hundreds of dollars of cheesecake samplers in the dumpsta. No doubt thousands of dollars in today's money.
[01:54]	schestowitz	and they need to accept some really hostile terrms
[01:54]	schestowitz	so they can have access to money terminated aat any time
[01:54]	schestowitz	no appeals
[01:54]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: wish i had teleport
[01:54]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, PayPal ain't your pal, buddy.
[01:54]	DaemonFC	It ain't your buddy, friend.
[01:55]	schestowitz	could send you the casio and some spare food
[01:55]	schestowitz	yesterday we made japanese food
[01:55]	schestowitz	had too much of it actually
[01:55]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: not just paypal
[01:55]	schestowitz	all those "online" things
[01:55]	schestowitz	they censor mostly for the US
[01:55]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, The IRS suspended the $600 rule again for PayPal 1099-Ks.
[01:55]	schestowitz	they defund whatever the corporate cabea seems "unwanted"
[01:55]	DaemonFC	This is unworkable.
[01:56]	schestowitz	it's one form of censorship
[01:56]	DaemonFC	They know it's a goddamned mess.
[01:56]	schestowitz	5+ years ago they went after pronstars
[01:56]	DaemonFC	So they say next year they're aiming for $5,000 or 200 transactions.
[01:56]	schestowitz	now it's like... artists and stuff
[01:56]	schestowitz	if they don't toe the line
[01:56]	DaemonFC	Even though the law says $600.
[01:57]	schestowitz	so people canmnot make a living
[01:57]	schestowitz	what does 600 buy you?
[01:57]	schestowitz	groceries for 2?
[01:57]	schestowitz	"go work for Microsof!"
[01:57]	DaemonFC	Congress ironically passed an "Inflation Reduction Act" that did not reduce inflation, then when the inflation continued getting worse, to the point where millions and millions of people would get a 1099-K that did not result in the IRS gaining a substantial amount.
[01:58]	DaemonFC	Then the IRS said "fuck it" for two years in a row and then used its "discretion" to raise the limit to $5,000 or 200 transactions, maybe, beginning next yer.
[01:58]	DaemonFC	*year
[01:58]	DaemonFC	They saw the writing on the wall that the politicians didn't want to see.
[01:58]	schestowitz	n "Inflation Reduction Act"
[01:58]	schestowitz	IRA
[01:59]	schestowitz	ask gulagboy
[01:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[01:59]	schestowitz	IRA will save USA
[01:59]	DaemonFC	Combing over another 4 million 1099s to maybe get $60-70 out of each audit was NOT WORTH DOING.
[01:59]	DaemonFC	Was not possible to do, or at least not during an election year where Biden's on thin ice anyway and the last thing he needs is 4 million more angry people with a nasty letter from the IRS right before the election.
● Dec 12
[02:00]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D777.jpg
[02:00]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D1127.jpg
[02:00]	schestowitz	i guess using paypal is not the worst anymore
[02:00]	schestowitz	seeing that other payment processors are no better
[02:00]	MinceR	paypal insists on being useless
[02:00]	schestowitz	and banks are "complicated"
[02:00]	schestowitz	swift, iban etc
[02:00]	jrmu	I have to say I do appreciate a lot of the interesting coverage on techrights' stories on the politics of FOSS
[02:00]	MinceR	it let me do exactly one payment from funds i've transferred in advance, then it started demanding a card number
[02:01]	jrmu	I don't know if I've ever seen such coverage elsewhere
[02:01]	schestowitz	jrmu: re online paymewnts
[02:01]	schestowitz	btw, re vps
[02:01]	schestowitz	i'd love to pat
[02:01]	schestowitz	*pay
[02:01]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2d3lev_w6o
[02:01]	TR Bot	https://iv.ggtyler.dev/watch?v=W2d3lev_w6o
[02:01]	TR Bot	iv.ggtyler.dev | FRAM Dropped A New OIL FILTER Called Synthetic Endurance That Lasts 25,000 Miles!! - Invidious
[02:01]	schestowitz	but have my own battles
[02:01]	schestowitz	and bills
[02:01]	jrmu	yeah, I understand
[02:01]	schestowitz	same boat, so to speak
[02:02]	DaemonFC	Well, the way they glued those metal endcaps on, there's no way this is coming apart once you install it in your car.
[02:02]	schestowitz	gonna word somethging to that effect
[02:02]	schestowitz	anyway, people tighten their belts
[02:02]	DaemonFC	And the metal core and mesh? Not going to blow through the filter with that thing in there.
[02:02]	schestowitz	not a great time to appeal for money
[02:02]	schestowitz	and our host raised the cost by 25% this month
[02:02]	DaemonFC	I mean, they did a really really good job other than making an outlandish "25,000 mile filter" claim.
[02:03]	DaemonFC	If they had said 8,000 miles I wouldn't have been so amused. I mean, there's a good chance you could go 8,000 miles with that thing.
[02:03]	DaemonFC	Reminds me of the story of the guy with the fuse at RCA.
[02:03]	DaemonFC	A machine kept blowing the fuse, so he'd go get a bigger fuse, then the machine blew that one, so bigger fuse.
[02:04]	DaemonFC	Finally the machine blew up.
[02:04]	DaemonFC	They called my dad in after hours.
[02:04]	DaemonFC	He told the guy congratulations because that's the first time he'd ever seen anyone sacrifice a million dollar machine to save a $1 fuse.
[02:04]	DaemonFC	That's sort of how I feel about these "25,000 mile oil filters".
[02:05]	DaemonFC	The oil filter's only purpose is to deliver clean fresh oil to the engine with the lowest amount of possible delay or pressure drop.
[02:06]	DaemonFC	And it looks like FRAM actually makes the best one, until it's clogged. And unfortunately, it's clogged after 66% of the amount of contaminants that the Ultra took, which is $4 cheaper.
[02:06]	DaemonFC	But they advertise that you can "only" drive 15,000 miles on the Ultra?
[02:07]	DaemonFC	Who is making these claims?
[02:07]	DaemonFC	I'd rather risk doing an oil and filter change a few thousand miles too soon than end up with a blown oil pump or engine damage.
[02:08]	DaemonFC	The oil pump is about $1,700 to replace at an independent garage on this car.
[02:08]	DaemonFC	That's a lot of oil filters.
[02:10]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, I finally replaced the curtain rods.
[02:11]	DaemonFC	The cat brought them down again, so rather than putting new ones up with that pathetic little hook they come with I grabbed some big brass ones and screwed them into the window frame about every foot or so with my drill driver.
[02:11]	DaemonFC	Mandy asked if this was excessive. I said, "Probably."
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[02:14]	schestowitz	<DaemonFC> schestowitz, I finally replaced the curtain rods.
[02:14]	schestowitz	the ones fat leeloo broke?
[02:15]	schestowitz	or curved?
[02:15]	DaemonFC	I'm tired of every few months the cat jumps up into the window and knocks the curtains down.
[02:15]	DaemonFC	No, I know it's not Leeloo doing this.
[02:15]	DaemonFC	It's Bobbi.
[02:15]	schestowitz	i c
[02:15]	DaemonFC	Leeloo is not a fucking psychopath.
[02:16]	DaemonFC	She comes over and waits patiently for you to pet her.
[02:16]	DaemonFC	Bobbi is basically Stitch.
[02:16]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2XJFvHI25Y
[02:16]	TR Bot	https://iv.ggtyler.dev/watch?v=R2XJFvHI25Y
[02:16]	TR Bot	iv.ggtyler.dev | lilo and stitch send me an angel english - Invidious
[02:16]	DaemonFC	Like this.
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[02:31]	schestowitz	darwin: http://techrights.org/n/2023/12/12/Making_Techrights_Stronger_in_2024.shtml
[02:31]	TR Bot	 Techrights Making Techrights Stronger in 2024
[02:31]	DaemonFC	https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/11/politics/special-counsel-trump-jack-smith
[02:31]	TR Bot	 Special counsel Jack Smith asks Supreme Court to resolve whether Trump has immunity from prosecution | CNN Politics
[02:31]	DaemonFC	Forcing the issue.
[02:32]	schestowitz	since you brought that up yesterday
[02:32]	schestowitz	we thank you in advance
[02:32]	TR News	 (NEW):  #HowTo Support Tux Machines and Techrights for Next Year http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/How_to_Support_Tux_Machines_and_Techrights_for_Next_Year.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/How_to_Support_Tux_Machines_and_Techrights_for_Next_Year.gmi 
[02:32]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines How to Support Tux Machines and Techrights for Next Year
[02:32]	DaemonFC	"Later Monday, the Supreme Court said it will expedite consideration of Smiths petition to rule on the question of whether Trump deserves immunity. Trump has until December 20 to file a response."
[02:33]	DaemonFC	They're going to rule that you don't have immunity.
[02:33]	DaemonFC	At least that's what I think they will rule.
[02:33]	schestowitz	weekend tasks finished just now... and it's Tuesday
[02:33]	schestowitz	time for more coffee
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[02:33]	TR Bot	 Techrights Making Techrights Stronger in 2024
[02:33]	DaemonFC	After you leave office, you can be put on trial. The only reason there's a theory that you can't try a sitting President is (1) it would be chaos and (2) this only covers the President from liability over official acts.
[02:34]	DaemonFC	Inciting a mob is not an official act of a President.
[02:34]	schestowitz	:-)
[02:35]	DaemonFC	Bill Clinton took this argument to civil court and lost.
[02:36]	DaemonFC	"The President's like a King. You can't sue him!"
[02:36]	DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_v._Jones
[02:36]	TR Bot	 Clinton v. Jones - Wikipedia
[02:36]	DaemonFC	But you can sue the President.
[02:37]	DaemonFC	So there went the "I'm like a King. You can't sue me." theory.
[02:38]	DaemonFC	What criminal immunity the sitting President enjoys is almost certainly limited to the functions of the office.
[02:38]	DaemonFC	If he goes out into the Rose Garden and shoots someone, that "you can't arrest the President" thing isn't going to hold.
[02:40]	DaemonFC	I think Clinton losing the "absolute immunity" argument in 1997 takes the mystery out of this.
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[02:46]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, They call the basic FRAM Extra Guard the Orange Can of Death.
[02:47]	DaemonFC	See, Windows-isms are joked about elsewhere.
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[02:47]	DaemonFC	They're so cheap and poorly made they not only don't filter the oil very well, but many fail internally between oil changes and the only way you'd know is by cutting them open.
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[02:51]	TR Bot	 Techrights IRC Proceedings: Monday, December 11, 2023
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[02:51]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines 2023 in Review
[02:53]	DaemonFC	https://www.amazon.com/Motorcraft-FL-820-S-Oil-Filter/dp/B000AS3D3S
[02:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon.com
[02:53]	DaemonFC	The Crown Victoria uses the FL-820-S.
[02:54]	DaemonFC	I always grabbed them at Walmart. Good price at Walmart.
[02:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[02:59]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7Nr8urjmPA
[02:59]	TR Bot	https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=C7Nr8urjmPA
[02:59]	TR Bot	vid.puffyan.us | Oil Filter Suppressor - Invidious
[02:59]	TR News	"Anywho, I pulled out the old dimmer after some trial end error with the breakers (someday I will label them clearly...). It was time to put in the new one, but the color scheme was odd: black, white, green and yellow wires." gemini://bbs.geminispace.org/u/stack/12540
[02:59]	DaemonFC	Suppressors are illegal in Illinois.
[02:59]	DaemonFC	But they can't stop you from buying an oil filter.
[02:59]	DaemonFC	So much for the law.
[02:59]	schestowitz	enforcing it?
● Dec 12
[03:00]	DaemonFC	Yeah.
[03:01]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, What are they going to do? Put everyone who buys an oil filter on a watch list?
[03:01]	DaemonFC	:)
[03:02]	DaemonFC	There was a time, a long time ago, where cars didn't even use an oil filter, and most didn't even have detergents in the oil.
[03:02]	DaemonFC	You drained the oil every thousand miles or so and planned on rebuilding the engine every 50,000-60,000 miles.
[03:03]	DaemonFC	Normally they'd tear it down and scrub all the gunk and dirt and wax that the crappy oil had left behind.
[03:03]	DaemonFC	You expected there'd be quite a lot of it.
[03:03]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: i have news
[03:03]	schestowitz	the ontario criminal
[03:03]	schestowitz	just admitted
[03:03]	schestowitz	that what was there in mastodon was not a joke
[03:03]	DaemonFC	They actually are a Lobster?
[03:03]	schestowitz	the divotrce and all
[03:04]	schestowitz	the kids
[03:04]	schestowitz	from the horse's own mouth
[03:04]	schestowitz	what an idiot
[03:04]	DaemonFC	"That's against the law!"
[03:04]	schestowitz	admitting all this
[03:04]	DaemonFC	So's marrying a Lobster and calling it your wife.
[03:04]	schestowitz	they say
[03:04]	schestowitz	silence is god
[03:04]	IPFS	 Gemini requests since start of month:   601135 total Total number of pages in capsule: 48922      Active: active (running) since Fri 2023-11-03 11:20:53 GMT; 1 months 8 days ago
[03:04]	schestowitz	or loose lips sink ships
[03:04]	schestowitz	anyway
[03:04]	schestowitz	now it is confirmed
[03:04]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, I always liked the razzle dazzle paint myself.
[03:05]	DaemonFC	If I ever get a car painted I'm definitely using razzle dazzle just to fuck with people.
[03:05]	IPFS	 IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated.      
[03:06]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UizKGzbYVIQ
[03:06]	TR Bot	https://inv.in.projectsegfau.lt/watch?v=UizKGzbYVIQ
[03:06]	TR Bot	inv.in.projectsegfau.lt | How exactly does dazzle paint work? - Invidious
[03:06]	IPFS	 New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
[03:06]	schestowitz	there are kids, too
[03:07]	schestowitz	the denial is that they are abandoned
[03:07]	schestowitz	not that some kids came from Brandon's nuts
[03:07]	schestowitz	and are no longer in the picture
[03:07]	schestowitz	hence,
[03:07]	schestowitz	just reaffirming what we said
[03:07]	schestowitz	Brandon is Keith
[03:07]	schestowitz	and Britney is Jessica 
[03:07]	MinceR	DaemonFC: https://www.autostraddle.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/RazzleDazzle.jpg
[03:07]	Sompi	I see advertisements about Intel Evo laptops. Those ads show that those laptops work seamlessly with Android and iOS phones, like the support of those phones is somehow embebbed in the laptop's hardware itself
[03:08]	Sompi	But after searching information about those laptops, it seems that they are just x86 laptops with pre-installed Windows 11
[03:08]	DaemonFC	I had an uncle (by marriage) that trooned out in 1993. Before it was "cool".
[03:08]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: 
[03:08]	schestowitz	"
[03:08]	schestowitz	https://techrights.org/n/2023/12/11/Misogynists_Versus_Techrights.shtml
[03:08]	schestowitz	1) How do you leave an abusive spouse without saving up money to leave?"
[03:08]	TR Bot	 Techrights Misogynists Versus Techrights
[03:09]	schestowitz	excuses
[03:09]	schestowitz	so left the wife
[03:09]	schestowitz	and hoarded money
[03:09]	schestowitz	aside
[03:09]	schestowitz	to leave the wife
[03:09]	DaemonFC	And when absolutely nobody gave a fuck when they came unglued over "deadnaming" and would laugh if you used that word, which didn't exist.
[03:09]	schestowitz	and the wife didn't have access to that money
[03:09]	Sompi	What happens if I change their operating system? Does it lose its mystical Android/iOS integration support? Can it even boot other operating systems than Windows 11?
[03:09]	schestowitz	simple.
[03:09]	schestowitz	"
[03:09]	schestowitz	2) I didn't ruin three women's lives. What evidence do you have of this? Do you have evidence that I "abandoned my kids"? Do you have evidence of anything?
[03:09]	schestowitz	'
[03:09]	schestowitz	again
[03:09]	schestowitz	not denying the kids
[03:09]	schestowitz	just "abandoned my kids"
[03:09]	schestowitz	probably not proddiving for them
[03:10]	schestowitz	two kids
[03:10]	schestowitz	two women
[03:10]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlYRsUjoOqE
[03:10]	TR Bot	https://invidious.lunar.icu/watch?v=IlYRsUjoOqE
[03:10]	TR Bot	invidious.lunar.icu | Pet Shop Boys - Your Funny Uncle (live) 1991 [HD] - Invidious
[03:10]	schestowitz	and now "dad" is just doing illegal stuff online
[03:10]	Sompi	What IS that Android/iOS support in those laptops?
[03:10]	schestowitz	i wonder what "mommy" tells them about "dad"
[03:10]	schestowitz	"
[03:10]	schestowitz	3) My old name doesn't matter. You're just using it because you're transphobic."
[03:10]	schestowitz	The old name matters
[03:10]	schestowitz	because all those things were done with that name
[03:11]	schestowitz	changing gender does not erase the old name or the past
[03:11]	jrmu	does techrights have any similar concerns about the python language?
[03:11]	schestowitz	this is misuse of "trans" statusd
[03:11]	schestowitz	bbc wrote an article last week
[03:11]	schestowitz	about serial rapists
[03:11]	jrmu	I believe python foundation is funded heavily by Google, but I'm not aware of as many trademark issues
[03:11]	schestowitz	claiming to later be "women"
[03:11]	schestowitz	after they had raped women
[03:11]	schestowitz	and tehn calling the judges "transphobic"
[03:11]	schestowitz	jrmu: yes
[03:12]	schestowitz	but different concern
[03:12]	schestowitz	python is Microsoft and Goog
[03:12]	jrmu	hm interesting. OK, I'll search it also on your site, and golang
[03:12]	schestowitz	getting url
[03:12]	DaemonFC	"Horrible misogynists won't take us down."
[03:12]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/o/2020/06/19/gafam-python/
[03:12]	TR Bot	 Python's New Board of Directors Adds 50% Google and 25% Microsoft
[03:12]	schestowitz	that was 2020
[03:12]	DaemonFC	I would add "(and misandrists)".
[03:12]	Sompi	In Finland we have one serial murderer who has murdered many womans, always after he was released from prison he killed someone again
[03:12]	Sompi	Now he is going to change his gender
[03:12]	DaemonFC	Lobsta hates real women.
[03:12]	schestowitz	microsoft also paid guido a lot of money
[03:12]	schestowitz	to help sell proprietary stuff
[03:12]	DaemonFC	Possibly more than men, but hates men quite a lot too.
[03:13]	schestowitz	"You make a lot of claims with little or no evidence. Just a bunch of theories from Ryan.
[03:13]	schestowitz	"
[03:13]	schestowitz	no, one's own mouth:
[03:13]	Sompi	https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Penttil%C3%A4
[03:13]	TR Bot	 Michael Penttil Wikipedia
[03:13]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/n/2023/10/26/Things_That_People_Who_Attack_Techrights_Write_and_Then_Delete_.shtml
[03:13]	TR Bot	 Techrights Things That People Who Attack Techrights Write and Then Delete (Because They Describe and Do Illegal Things)
[03:13]	jrmu	do you think relying on python might come back to bite us like rust would?
[03:13]	schestowitz	"Also, it really doesn't matter where Ryan lives. Your server is in the UK and the irc logs you publish are also published in the UK. And you make them available in Canada.
[03:13]	schestowitz	"
[03:13]	schestowitz	This fake 'paralegal' does not know how laws work
[03:13]	schestowitz	if people from canada want the pages
[03:13]	schestowitz	they connect to the uk
[03:13]	schestowitz	get paages
[03:13]	schestowitz	via canadian isp
[03:13]	DaemonFC	Even if you blocked Canadian IP ranges, Lobsta would still read it using a VPN.
[03:14]	Sompi	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Maria_Penttil%C3%A4
[03:14]	TR Bot	 Michael Maria Penttil - Wikipedia
[03:14]	schestowitz	no impact on me, whatever this lunatic claims about canada
[03:14]	DaemonFC	So there's no way to actually stop people in Canada from reading anything as long as they can use Tor or a VPN, like Lobsta does.
[03:14]	schestowitz	good luck suing canadian ISPs to block our webhost
[03:14]	schestowitz	it won't work
[03:14]	schestowitz	tell them,
[03:14]	schestowitz	i commited crimes
[03:14]	schestowitz	i don't like people writing about it
[03:14]	schestowitz	please block their sites
[03:14]	schestowitz	in another continent
[03:15]	schestowitz	see how that flies :)
[03:15]	schestowitz	"Cease and desist talking about me. I'm going to use every single word about me in my lawsuit against your host, you and your wife.
[03:15]	schestowitz	"
[03:15]	schestowitz	more threats
[03:15]	DaemonFC	I don't know how bad Canadian censorship laws are.
[03:15]	schestowitz	i can write factual stuff
[03:15]	schestowitz	about a man who attacks my wife
[03:15]	schestowitz	and does crimes
[03:15]	schestowitz	inc. against her
[03:15]	DaemonFC	Usually if it's taken down from the US internet, it's not an ISP level block, it's the government seizing the site because it was like REALLY REALLY bad.
[03:15]	schestowitz	nothing prevents her writing about this abusive person
[03:15]	schestowitz	"
[03:15]	schestowitz	Get a lawyer
[03:15]	schestowitz	Britney
[03:15]	schestowitz	"
[03:15]	DaemonFC	(CP, terrorists, etc.)
[03:15]	schestowitz	Here we go, xrevan
[03:15]	schestowitz	"get a lawyer"
[03:16]	schestowitz	what for?
[03:16]	schestowitz	some total suiciddal nutcase in ontario?
[03:16]	schestowitz	i have better things to do
[03:16]	schestowitz	go threaten your government
[03:16]	schestowitz	and get more accounts nuked
[03:16]	schestowitz	even twitter deemed "brandon lobsta" too radical
[03:16]	DaemonFC	The government in the UK does block sites at the ISP level.
[03:16]	schestowitz	and banned him
[03:17]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: this is not applicable
[03:17]	schestowitz	we are talking about canada
[03:17]	DaemonFC	Why? Well, for starters it doesn't have the resources to just "take that off the goddamn internet" like my government does.
[03:17]	MinceR	12 041024 <+Sompi> What IS that Android/iOS support in those laptops?
[03:17]	MinceR	i've seen applications for Backdoors offer to do stuff like that
[03:17]	schestowitz	and canada won't block uk sites for some extremist from ontaio
[03:17]	DaemonFC	But there's really no legal concept of Free Speech in most of the English-speaking world outside the US.
[03:17]	schestowitz	the uk gov. is  not transphobic
[03:17]	schestowitz	tories are just told about misuse of it
[03:17]	schestowitz	like people who committed actual crimes
[03:18]	schestowitz	and later used the trans community as a beard
[03:18]	schestowitz	or legal shield
[03:18]	schestowitz	this is not about people with birth defects
[03:18]	schestowitz	but some dudes who want to dodge the law
[03:18]	schestowitz	and when people ask about criminal background or background checks
[03:18]	schestowitz	they go "tranphobe"
[03:18]	schestowitz	this is not helping anybody
[03:18]	schestowitz	and it becomes a yoke on the system
[03:18]	schestowitz	fac
[03:18]	schestowitz	fact
[03:19]	schestowitz	but hard for some people to accept
[03:19]	schestowitz	even BillBC write about it
[03:19]	schestowitz	i will omit the URL
[03:19]	schestowitz	*wrote
[03:19]	schestowitz	<DaemonFC> But there's really no legal concept of Free Speech in most of the English-speaking world outside the US.
[03:19]	schestowitz	worse in francophonie societies
[03:19]	schestowitz	frnace, canada, west africa
[03:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[03:20]	schestowitz	they invent laws to protect rich people from criticism
[03:20]	schestowitz	because they control the legislative process
[03:20]	schestowitz	not thierry breton does the same at the EU level
[03:20]	schestowitz	more restrictions on speech
[03:20]	schestowitz	esp. those which powerful people abhor
[03:20]	schestowitz	not because it's false 
[03:20]	schestowitz	it's "hare speech"
[03:21]	schestowitz	if peoiple start gating some oligarchs
[03:21]	schestowitz	for perfectly legitimate reasoins
[03:21]	schestowitz	that's "illegal"
[03:21]	schestowitz	and speaking about gates is "conspiracy theoty"
[03:21]	schestowitz	talking about high-profile crime is "illegal"
[03:21]	schestowitz	they desereve "privacy"
[03:21]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/o/2020/08/14/control-but-no-accountability/
[03:21]	TR Bot	 High-Level Criminals Associate Privacy With Crime Because They Want Privacy Only for Themselves (Control But No Accountability)
[03:22]	schestowitz	btw, to show you what a l00n lozza is
[03:22]	schestowitz	notice the subject line used:
[03:22]	schestowitz	"Re: HRTO File# 2023-54773-I, Lozza v. Techrights"
[03:22]	schestowitz	s/he makes it sound like a real case
[03:22]	schestowitz	with two sides
[03:22]	schestowitz	there is no such case
[03:22]	schestowitz	it's made up
[03:22]	schestowitz	it's some extremist with free google account
[03:22]	schestowitz	sending some email to some government address
[03:22]	schestowitz	there is no case
[03:23]	schestowitz	later using this fake to claim to people thatr
[03:23]	schestowitz	there is some "lawsuit"
[03:23]	schestowitz	this loon is all fake
[03:23]	schestowitz	back to normal
[03:23]	schestowitz	re python
[03:23]	schestowitz	we have a wki page
[03:23]	schestowitz	but it is outdated:
[03:23]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wiki/Python/
[03:23]	TR Bot	 Python
[03:24]	schestowitz	jrmu: ^ may be of use
[03:24]	schestowitz	but very outdated
[03:24]	schestowitz	curating and organising material takes more time than writing new pages
[03:24]	schestowitz	as things change all the time
[03:24]	jrmu	ok thanks
[03:24]	schestowitz	and some info becomes "oild"
[03:24]	schestowitz	*old
[03:24]	schestowitz	jrmu: sorry for the above interruptiopn
[03:25]	schestowitz	gives you an idea of what we waste time dealing with
[03:25]	schestowitz	whackdooles
[03:25]	schestowitz	*dles
[03:25]	jrmu	no problem, I appreciate the research you put into this
[03:26]	schestowitz	https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/wackadoodle/
[03:26]	TR Bot	Meaning & Origin | Slang by Dictionary.com
[03:26]	schestowitz	he believes some humans re reptiles
[03:26]	schestowitz	and we actually wasted time entertaining that trash
[03:26]	schestowitz	maybe part of the goal is
[03:26]	schestowitz	1) waste time
[03:26]	schestowitz	2) associate us with wackadoodles
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[03:39]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz> he believes some humans re reptiles
[03:39]	DaemonFC	It would explain Matt Gaetz though.
[03:40]	DaemonFC	Interestingly, a vote for "Lizard People" and "Al Franken" was given to Al Franken instead of being invalidated.
[03:40]	Sompi	It would explain the president of Finland
[03:40]	DaemonFC	The law in Minnesota says that this was a spoiled ballot.
[03:40]	schestowitz	lol
[03:40]	DaemonFC	So unless Al Franken is a Lizard Person, then the vote shouldn't have been given to him.
[03:41]	DaemonFC	So maybe there are lizard people.
[03:41]	DaemonFC	The correct thing to do if you've screwed up your ballot is to hand it to the election officials to be shredded, and then they will provide you with another blank ballot.
[03:42]	DaemonFC	The reason most recounts favor Democrats is that the majority of people too stupid to figure out how to fill out a ballot are also Democrats.
[03:42]	DaemonFC	B-)
[03:44]	DaemonFC	If you have 3-4 million ballots and it goes into a recount of ones that were misread by the machine because someone screwed it up, and provisional ballots (because the person couldn't be bothered to read what form of identification to bring with them to the polling place), you'll get 3 for the Democrats to every 1 for the Republicans.
[03:44]	DaemonFC	And a net change for about 2,000-3,000 votes in favor of the Democrats.
[03:45]	DaemonFC	The reason Democrats don't like voter ID laws is that it makes it awfully hard for illegal aliens and corrupt election officials to stuff the ballot box.
[03:45]	DaemonFC	Most of the blue states where these illegal immigrants from Venezuela end up will have them on the voter rolls in a matter of weeks.
[03:46]	DaemonFC	Or they'll just hand them a ballot in the name of a dead voter they never took off the rolls.
[03:46]	DaemonFC	100,000 or so of them in Illinois. Always useful to make sure things go the right way. :)
[03:46]	DaemonFC	The old tricks are the best ones, eh MinceR?
[03:47]	TR News	For Linux, 3 weeks later, makeuseof remains dead. Someone in makeuseof decided to kill it. https://www.makeuseof.com/search/?q=linux
[03:47]	TR Bot	 linux | MUO
[03:48]	TR News	More background: http://techrights.org/n/2023/12/04/GNU_Linux_Popularity_Surging_So_Why_Did_MakeUseOf_Quit_Covering.shtml http://techrights.org/n/2023/12/07/The_Effort_to_Silence_Squash_GNU_Linux_Advocates_and_Press_Cove.shtml
[03:48]	TR Bot	 Techrights GNU/Linux Popularity Surging, So Why Did MakeUseOf Quit Covering It About 10 Days Ago?
[03:48]	TR Bot	 Techrights The Effort to Silence (Squash) GNU/Linux Advocates and Press Coverage
[03:51]	TR News	https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-200901-202312
[03:51]	TR Bot	 Desktop Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats
[03:54]	schestowitz	3.7 linux now
[03:54]	schestowitz	was 1-2 years ago :-)
[03:54]	schestowitz	1-2%
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[04:04]	DaemonFC	I'm not sure counting Linux share going up really matters much anymore.
[04:05]	DaemonFC	This is turning into a Windows-like mess complete with an actual BSoD, where even the LTS kernels can bring in bugs that corrupt data on Ext4.
[04:05]	DaemonFC	How does this shit end up in LTS kernels?
[04:06]	DaemonFC	Nothing should go into a file system driver in an LTS kernel unless it is there to fix something so horrible that there is no other choice except to backport a fix.
[04:06]	DaemonFC	What were they even trying to solve that led to an actual data corruption issue that wasn't there before?
[04:07]	schestowitz	yes, exactly
[04:07]	schestowitz	i am still looking for more info
[04:08]	schestowitz	like, a statement 
[04:08]	schestowitz	it might come soon
[04:09]	DaemonFC	I doubt it.
[04:09]	DaemonFC	Moving right along...
[04:16]	schestowitz	maybe
[04:16]	schestowitz	i hope not
[04:17]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/n/2023/12/11/A_Code_of_Conduct_Can_Lead_to_Deterioration_of_Quality_Control_.shtml
[04:17]	TR Bot	 Techrights A Code of Conduct Can Lead to Deterioration of Quality Control in Linux (Nobody Reprimanded for Technical Issues, Instead Critics at Times of Crisis Get Reprimanded)
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[04:25]	TR News	 (NEW):  GNU/Linux (and ChromeOS) Up About 2% This Past Year http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/GNU_Linux_and_ChromeOS_Up_About_2_This_Past_Year.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/GNU_Linux_and_ChromeOS_Up_About_2_This_Past_Year.gmi 
[04:25]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines GNU/Linux (and ChromeOS) Up About 2% This Past Year
[04:33]	DaemonFC	Hmm, six quart boxes of Havoline Synthetic High Mileage 5w30 on ibotta.
[04:33]	DaemonFC	Good price.
[04:33]	DaemonFC	I'll need to wait until I have an empty bottle from a top off quart to pour one of those quarts into.
[04:34]	DaemonFC	I don't want to hand a mechanic 6 quarts and have someone not read it and put 6 quarts in a 5 quart engine. :/
[04:34]	DaemonFC	6 quart boxes are unusual, so that could easily happen.
[04:34]	schestowitz	what is this ibotta?
[04:34]	schestowitz	you keep mentioning it
[04:34]	schestowitz	i never noticed it here
[04:35]	DaemonFC	My guess is 6 quart boxes are happening because people are out there driving huge V8 trucks.
[04:35]	DaemonFC	And don't like getting a jug plus a quart.
[04:35]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz> what is this ibotta?
[04:35]	DaemonFC	Rebates for all sorts of things you grab at the grocery store.
[04:35]	schestowitz	elola
[04:35]	schestowitz	ebola
[04:36]	DaemonFC	I really want to move to a 0w30 for winter.
[04:36]	schestowitz	so it is like i bought a?
[04:36]	DaemonFC	But while I'd like to, it costs a lot more, nobody is going to make it in high mileage, and none of it is dexos because it's for Euro cars mostly.
[04:36]	DaemonFC	My owners manual only mentions it in passing saying it is "acceptable" if you live where the winters get bad.
[04:37]	DaemonFC	(Below -20F, 0w30 makes sense, but we only usually get 2-4 days of that here, so paying twice as much for oil doesn't make a lot of sense.)
[04:37]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz> so it is like i bought a?
[04:37]	DaemonFC	Yeah.
[04:38]	DaemonFC	I use it to save money and kind of plan my shopping around it.
[04:38]	DaemonFC	Like I can use a can of that in this recipe, or oh look, $1 back on Perdue chicken.
[04:38]	DaemonFC	Or "Time to stock up on toothpaste, mouth wash, dish sponges...."
[04:39]	DaemonFC	And it adds up pretty fast. I've gotten a little over $4,000 in rebates in roughly 10 years.
[04:39]	DaemonFC	I think Marc Andreeson is one of the investors behind it.
[04:40]	jrmu	I tried to view https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdaM4pdWFsLJ8GHIUFIhepuq0lfTg_b0mJ-hvwPdHa4UTRaAg/viewform
[04:40]	TR Bot	 Rust Trademark Policy Comment Form
[04:40]	jrmu	but the rust trademark form is closed, not sure if there's a mirro anywhere
[04:40]	DaemonFC	It makes sense to consumer package goods companies because they used to send coupons through the newspapers, but now hardly anyone gets a newspaper.
[04:41]	DaemonFC	$2 back on Irish Spring soap. Oh god.
[04:41]	DaemonFC	That's what my grandmother used.
[04:41]	DaemonFC	When Mandy moved in with me I started itching really badly and I knew right away what it was.
[04:41]	DaemonFC	There was Irish Spring soap somewhere.
[04:41]	DaemonFC	He had some in the package in a duffelbag on the other side of the room.
[04:42]	DaemonFC	He thought I was crazy because I tossed the duffelbag with the soap in the dumpster.
[04:42]	DaemonFC	If there is a single bar of Irish Spring in the room with me, my skin starts itching like crazy because I am that allergic to it.
[04:43]	DaemonFC	If I try to use it in the shower, my skin turns bright red and I spend the next few days in pain.
[04:43]	jrmu	Rust Foundation says: "Unfortunately, in addition to the large volume of thoughtful and respectful feedback, we're ashamed to say we've seen firsthand examples of significant harassment and abuse directed at the Foundation staff. We condemn this in the strongest possible terms."
[04:43]	jrmu	sounds like it was very controversial
[04:43]	DaemonFC	So he may have thought I was crazy but that's basically, you know Dr. McKay in Stargate Atlantis?
[04:43]	DaemonFC	It's like him with citrus fruit.
[04:44]	DaemonFC	The reason I knew it was Irish Spring somewhere was because I've never had an allergic reaction like that to anything else.
[04:44]	DaemonFC	My grandmother had two bathrooms in her house and she only kept Irish Spring in one of them.
[04:45]	DaemonFC	So I had to use the other bathroom.
[04:45]	DaemonFC	It's the most horrible thing anyone has ever invented, including the A-Bomb.
[04:46]	DaemonFC	Irish Spring bar soap.
[04:46]	DaemonFC	Now, the Irish Spring body wash is fine.
[04:46]	DaemonFC	I use that all the time. I grab it whenever I can get a good price on it. Same as any other body wash.
[04:50]	schestowitz	<jrmu> Rust Foundation says: "Unfortunately, in addition to the large volume of thoughtful and respectful feedback, we're ashamed to say we've seen firsthand examples of significant harassment and abuse directed at the Foundation staff. We condemn this in the strongest possible terms."
[04:50]	schestowitz	straw man
[04:50]	schestowitz	see:
[04:50]	schestowitz	https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/23/rust_moderation_team_quits/
[04:50]	TR Bot	 Entire Rust moderation team resigns The Register
[04:50]	schestowitz	"The moderation team, represented by Andrew Gallant, posted its resignation to GitHub yesterday, stating that it was "done in protest of the Core Team placing themselves unaccountable to anyone but themselves."
[04:50]	schestowitz	Therefore, the post goes on to explain, "we have been unable to enforce the Rust Code of Conduct [CoC] to the standards the community expects of us."
[04:50]	schestowitz	The team further asked that "Rust Team Members come to a consensus on a process for oversight over the Core Team," acknowledging that being a moderator is "a thankless task, and we did not do our best to recruit new members.""
[04:51]	schestowitz	https://github.com/rust-lang/team/pull/671
[04:51]	TR Bot	team resignation by BurntSushi Pull Request #671 rust-lang/team GitHub
[04:51]	schestowitz	"We
[04:51]	schestowitz	recommend that the broader Rust community and the future Mod Team exercise
[04:51]	schestowitz	extreme skepticism of any statements by the Core Team (or members thereof)
[04:51]	schestowitz	claiming to illuminate the situation."
[04:51]	schestowitz	see?
[04:52]	schestowitz	many others resigned at the time
[04:52]	schestowitz	not just the above mod team
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[05:02]	schestowitz	jrmu: writing long article about search etc.
[05:02]	schestowitz	in TR
[05:03]	jrmu	thanks for the links schestowitz 
[05:04]	schestowitz	np
[05:05]	schestowitz	i will headsup you shortly
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[05:26]	schestowitz	jrmu: http://techrights.org/n/2023/12/12/Improving_Site_Navigation_and_Discovery.shtml
[05:26]	TR Bot	 Techrights Improving Site Navigation and Discovery
[05:26]	jrmu	thanks, looking now
[05:26]	jrmu	interesting I didn't realize microsoft tried IronRuby in the past
[05:27]	schestowitz	not just that
[05:27]	schestowitz	other "irons"
[05:27]	TR News	Techrights Improving Site Navigation and Discovery http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/12/Improving_Site_Navigation_and_Discovery.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/12/Improving_Site_Navigation_and_Discovery.gmi 
[05:27]	TR Bot	 Techrights Improving Site Navigation and Discovery
[05:27]	schestowitz	around 2008
[05:31]	schestowitz	ftr, it is a GAFAM issue
[05:31]	schestowitz	not just Microsoft
[05:31]	schestowitz	Google hired many like larry wall
[05:31]	schestowitz	and then controlled a lot of P/L directions
[05:31]	schestowitz	Facebook did similar things
[05:31]	schestowitz	they have a lot of control
[05:32]	jrmu	I have noticed that trend also, but take a language like rust or python for example
[05:32]	schestowitz	they choose winners and loser
[05:32]	jrmu	it's controlled by a coalition of like 5 of those companies
[05:32]	schestowitz	then tie it to their "clown computing" offering
[05:32]	schestowitz	which is proprietary
[05:32]	jrmu	wouldn't that check and balance the power of any particular corp?
[05:32]	schestowitz	or "SaaS"
[05:32]	schestowitz	Rust is many companies
[05:32]	schestowitz	but the dominant ones are standing out
[05:32]	schestowitz	Rust is technically controlled by MSFT
[05:33]	schestowitz	not Mozilla (Google)
[05:33]	schestowitz	ebem their meeting minutes were outsource to github
[05:33]	schestowitz	the weekly rust newsletter is all github links
[05:33]	schestowitz	and it is edited from Microsoft accounts
[05:33]	schestowitz	Google and Amazon have less control over it
[05:34]	schestowitz	there is something else i wanted to say about Google poaching lead devs as "trrophies"
[05:34]	schestowitz	but forgot while typing
[05:34]	schestowitz	Google is not benign
[05:34]	schestowitz	and does not oppose Microsoft on most issues
[05:34]	schestowitz	not shcoking, we cautions about this 10+ years ago:
[05:34]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/n/2023/12/01/New_Report_Provides_Numerical_Evidence_That_Google_Hired_Too_Ma.shtml
[05:34]	TR Bot	 Techrights New Report Provides Numerical Evidence That Google Hired Too Many People From Microsoft (and Became Malicious, Evil, Sociopathic)
[05:35]	schestowitz	https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2006/08/11/interview-with-google/
[05:35]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Second Interview with Google
[05:35]	schestowitz	back then they kept trying to hire me
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[06:20]	DaemonFC	Chicago is compiling "hate incidents" now but they're just wasting time.
[06:20]	DaemonFC	Almost none of what the police will have to take a report on is legally actionable.
[06:21]	DaemonFC	About the only way I could see it being legally relevant is if someone does something that's an actual crime later and the police can tell the prosecutor "He has an incident of protesting outside that synagogue with a sign saying I hate the Jews." or something.
[06:21]	DaemonFC	Until the day the guy tries shooting at someone or commits some actual crime to go along with it, none of this data is actionable.
[06:22]	DaemonFC	The term "Hate Crime" is so vague it's meaningless.
[06:22]	DaemonFC	A normal person can't tell what actually happened by hearing "hate crime".
[06:22]	DaemonFC	So it's a good thing those don't actually exist in America.
[06:23]	DaemonFC	There are "hate enhancements", but those aren't actually a crime. They just take a crime and make the potential sentence worse.
[06:23]	DaemonFC	You can say. "He committed murder with a hate enhancement, and this is why."
[06:24]	DaemonFC	And you go, "Oh, okay, he was out there shouting that he hated Jews and then he committed an actual crime afterwards."
[06:24]	DaemonFC	Hate itself is not against any law. And it's also not something you're liable for as a private person, usually.
[06:25]	DaemonFC	That's why there are these "commissions" where you can complain about landlords and hotels and something your employer did.
[06:25]	DaemonFC	But that's something completely else.
[06:25]	DaemonFC	If you file a complaint that your boss at McDonald's said "You're fired, faggot, LOL!" it's not actually him in any trouble with the Civil Rights commission.
[06:26]	DaemonFC	It's the franchise owner. It's the LLC that runs the McDonald's.
[06:26]	DaemonFC	So unless that guy owns the McDonald's it's not even a problem for him other than they might sack him and say "We don't tolerate this in our workplace, blah blah." but it's still their problem with the commission, not his.
[06:27]	DaemonFC	And this sort of thing happens all the time.
[06:27]	DaemonFC	Like that CVS manager in Chicago that called 911 because a black woman was trying to use a coupon for some adult diapers.
[06:27]	darwin	yeah, like Google hired at least one creator of a top programming language, and the creator of IRC... but not to create a better programming language nor to create something better than IRC nor even better than older google talk/hangouts, like google chat lost functionality those had and made interface worse
[06:28]	DaemonFC	He was fired a long time before she got money, from CVS.
[06:28]	DaemonFC	But other than some embarrassment in the paper, it's not a problem for him.
[06:29]	darwin	maybe not all that is poaching, but at one point it's like Google was trying to hire every famous older computer scientist and nothing came of it
[06:29]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Keith actually does keep his men's clothing around.
[06:29]	DaemonFC	He hasn't updated any of it since 1993, but he does dress as a man sometimes.
[06:29]	darwin	maybe even some of the creators of UNIX, and so on
[06:29]	DaemonFC	He showed up at the funeral as Keith.
[06:30]	darwin	instead they said "don't be evil" while making robot attack dogs
[06:30]	DaemonFC	If he was that committed to the Jessica thing, I doubt he'd hold onto a closet full of male clothing.
[06:36]	DaemonFC	I've noticed that with the consumer packaged goods industry, every company makes products across the spectrum where performance depends mostly on how much you pay.
[06:37]	DaemonFC	So FRAM doing oil filters that scale based on roughly what you paid isn't surprising.
[06:37]	DaemonFC	Era and Tide are both made by P&G.
[06:37]	DaemonFC	Era barely does anything to stains and doesn't get your laundry clean and Tide is one of the best rated detergents.
[06:38]	DaemonFC	Mom was using Era for a while because it was cheap and Dave was spending all their money.
[06:38]	DaemonFC	I don't use cheap detergents because I've noticed they skimp on everything. Anti-stain, optical brightening, odor removers.
[06:55]	schestowitz	<DaemonFC> schestowitz, Keith actually does keep his men's clothing around.
[06:55]	schestowitz	he kept his undo button from being greyed out
[06:55]	schestowitz	just in case
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[06:56]	schestowitz	darwin> yeah, like Google hired at least one creator of a top programming language, and the creator of IRC... 
[06:56]	schestowitz	did they hire him too?
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[06:56]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/n/2023/11/18/Internet_Relay_Chat_IRC_Turns_35.shtml
[06:56]	TR Bot	 Techrights Internet Relay Chat (IRC) Turns 35
[06:56]	schestowitz	http://www.kumpu.org/cv.pdf
[06:57]	schestowitz	oh
[06:57]	schestowitz	Google Sweden
[06:57]	schestowitz	i didn't even noticed
[06:57]	schestowitz	since 2011
[06:57]	schestowitz	2005-2011 Nokia
[06:57]	schestowitz	till Microsoft destroyed it
[06:58]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wiki/Nokia/
[06:58]	TR Bot	 Nokia
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[07:07]	schestowitz	  Added a <a
[07:07]	schestowitz	       href="say-it-with-a-meme.html#calumny">meme</a> with the lyrics
[07:07]	schestowitz	       of the aria &ldquo;<i>La calunnia un venticello</i>&rdquo; 
[07:07]	schestowitz	       (&ldquo;Calumny is a little breeze&rdquo;) from Rossini's <i>opera
[07:07]	schestowitz	       buffa</i> <cite>The Barber of Seville</cite>. As <i>buffa</i> and 
[07:07]	schestowitz	       <i> la mode</i> as it can be.</li>
[07:12]	DaemonFC	https://www.npr.org/2023/12/11/1218681439/a-jury-decided-googles-android-app-store-benefits-from-anticompetitive-barriers
[07:12]	TR Bot	 Jury decides Google's Android app store benefits from anticompetitive barriers : NPR
[07:12]	DaemonFC	Something useful on NPR for once.
[07:12]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Lobsta says he agrees that Microsoft is full of Nazis, btw.
[07:13]	darwin	schestowitz, yeah, they hired the IRC creator in 2010s presumably (though I have no idea) to create google chat
[07:13]	darwin	i think they once hired Rob Pike (a UNIX creator)
[07:13]	darwin	and maybe the java creator, etc.
[07:13]	darwin	(someone else)
[07:14]	darwin	these people tend to disappear into google and never be heard about making anything great again
[07:15]	darwin	then google just gets the status of having them
[07:15]	DaemonFC	https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/ford-model-ts-out-for-a-drive-today.373409/page-2#post-6619383
[07:15]	TR Bot	 Ford Model Ts out for a drive today | Page 2 | Bob Is The Oil Guy
[07:16]	DaemonFC	The Ford Motor Company said change the engine oil at 500 miles and from there, every 2,000 miles on the Model T.
[07:16]	TR News	Techrights Basilio and Richard Stallman http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/12/Basilio_and_Richard_Stallman.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/12/Basilio_and_Richard_Stallman.gmi 
[07:16]	TR Bot	 Techrights Basilio and Richard Stallman
[07:16]	DaemonFC	Every 1,000 miles during the winter.
[07:16]	DaemonFC	"Alternatively, the oil may be changed once a month."
[07:16]	DaemonFC	LOL
[07:17]	DaemonFC	I wouldn't even consider changing the oil in a modern car more than once every 6 months.
[07:17]	DaemonFC	Although I admit I usually still do it between 3,000-4,000 miles because most of the driving is in the city and short trips.
[07:18]	DaemonFC	That puts it in the "Severe" service schedule.
[07:19]	DaemonFC	"I've read the Ford Model T engine, a 2.9l 4cyl., was so available, the French automobile industry lobbied for restrictive import duties on all engines 2.9l and above."
[07:19]	DaemonFC	The French had an automobile industry?
[07:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[07:20]	DaemonFC	You know, for a country of people that walk everywhere a truly surprising amount of them smoke.
[07:21]	DaemonFC	You have to wonder how the life expectancy is so high.
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[07:21]	DaemonFC	Smoking is worse than obesity for the most part.
[07:21]	DaemonFC	From the lungs, to the heart, to the skin and fingernails, not a single body part seems unaffected by smoking.
[07:22]	DaemonFC	A truly filthy habit. And they say they're "civilized".
[07:22]	DaemonFC	Also, I'm sure that smoking really helps a lot with COVID floating around infecting people over and over.
[07:23]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, I've been taking this Yeti insulated bottle around with me. Good for everything from hot coffee to cold tap water.
[07:24]	DaemonFC	The coffee is almost as hot as when I brewed it even 6 hours later.
[07:24]	DaemonFC	But these restaurants that want you to pay $2 for a bottle of water, and have taken the liberty of not giving you ice water from the tap...
[07:25]	DaemonFC	This is my response.
[07:29]	DaemonFC	McDonald's changed their fountain sodas from all sizes are $1 to $1 Small $1.39 Medium and $1.59 Large.
[07:29]	DaemonFC	But around the same time the ones around here started charging 60 cents for a small paper cup for water.
[07:29]	DaemonFC	I'm guessing that Coke leaned on them to increase their sales of Coke products.
[07:30]	DaemonFC	If you're gonna spend 60 cents on water, why not just buy a Coke?
[07:30]	DaemonFC	I've noticed a lot of restaurants are moving away from soda machines.
[07:31]	DaemonFC	The Korean one has a very small Coke fountain with not many products in it, and then about a dozen varieties of tea, both sweet and unsweet.
[07:31]	DaemonFC	The tea tastes a lot better than the Coke.
[07:31]	DaemonFC	I never really understood how Coke got so popular.
[07:31]	DaemonFC	It's not even good.
[07:32]	DaemonFC	"A Model T had to be driven backwards up steeper hills because of the location of the gas tank. On a steeper hill the gravity fed gas could not get to the carburetor. The Model A corrected that by placing the gas tank in the front, basically on the driver's lap."
[07:33]	DaemonFC	Which I'm sure worked out great in a collision....
[07:33]	DaemonFC	What is it with Ford and gas tanks?
[07:33]	DaemonFC	Model T: This thing has to go backwards up a hill because of the gas tank.
[07:34]	DaemonFC	Model A: This thing puts the gas tank where it can splash all over you and burn you alive in a wreck.
[07:34]	DaemonFC	Pinto: Exploding rear-end collisions.
[07:35]	DaemonFC	https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/i-bought-a-2010-prius-for-3000.374617/
[07:35]	TR Bot	 I bought a 2010 Prius for $3000 | Bob Is The Oil Guy
[07:35]	DaemonFC	"My $2000 Ranger was probably my biggest dud, but it continues to chug along, made it past $300k recently."
[07:35]	DaemonFC	I'm sure that was a typo but if not, it seems they've outdone the Buick somehow.
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[07:50]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFjDCKZESZo
[07:50]	TR Bot	https://inv.in.projectsegfau.lt/watch?v=nFjDCKZESZo
[07:50]	TR Bot	inv.in.projectsegfau.lt | Is High Mileage Motor Oil Safe? Lets find out! Mobil 1 vs Mobil 1 High Mileage; SuperTech vs STHM - Invidious
[07:50]	DaemonFC	I've noticed the more expensive oils are really starting to favor magnesium over calcium.
[07:51]	DaemonFC	But Super Tech is still within the dexos 1 gen3 spec or they wouldn't be able to advertise it.
[07:51]	DaemonFC	That said, I suspect that the more expensive brands that favor magnesium would be less prone to LSPI in turbocharged engines.
[07:54]	DaemonFC	I already suspected high mileage oils flow better.
[07:54]	DaemonFC	I'm very familiar with the GM 3800.
[07:54]	DaemonFC	I noticed that the engine quiets down faster after you start it up with most of these high mileage oils.
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[08:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[08:33]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQLQ4XO-WUM
[08:33]	TR Bot	https://vid.priv.au/watch?v=xQLQ4XO-WUM
[08:33]	TR Bot	vid.priv.au | Galaxy Quest: You've Never Heard it Told Like This Before! - Invidious
[08:33]	DaemonFC	That was a pretty great movie.
[08:39]	DaemonFC	I still say "By Grabthar's Hammer.....what a savings." when I find a good deal on something, sometimes.
[08:39]	DaemonFC	I'm sure Mandy still has no idea why.
[08:41]	TR News	Some thoughts on unit testing from inside an assembler gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2023/12/11.1
[08:43]	TR News	"I continually reflect on how big of a deal it would actually be, long term, to lose the last 20 years of IT progress." gemini://bbs.geminispace.org/u/wholesomedonut/12547 "Cell phones on 3G are bleeding-edge, that's far as it goes"
[08:43]	TR News	"Social media as we know it simply didn't exist; IRC and things like AIM ruled the day; MySpace was brand new." gemini://bbs.geminispace.org/u/wholesomedonut/12547
[08:46]	TR News	"Hardware projects still were hard. There were no Arduino boards or single-boad-computers like Raspberry Pis." gemini://bbs.geminispace.org/u/wholesomedonut/12547
[08:46]	TR News	"WiFi was only just appearing. There were cables all over the place. So, I love the time we are in right now." gemini://bbs.geminispace.org/u/wholesomedonut/12547
[08:46]	TR News	"I remember how difficult it was to set up a small Linux computer as server or NAS in your home." gemini://bbs.geminispace.org/u/wholesomedonut/12547
[08:47]	TR News	Oh my god it's actually done gopher://rawtext.club:70/0/~left_adjoint/phlog/121123.txt "commuting to the campus I can walk to (it's a three mile walk...)"
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[09:06]	TR News	In 2023, Across England and Wales, About 55,000 More Deaths Than Before COVID-19 http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-admin/post.php?post=8083&action=edit&message=6
[09:06]	TR Bot	Log In
[09:07]	TR News	In 2023, Across England and Wales, About 55,000 More Deaths Than Before COVID-19 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/12/12/55k-more-deaths/
[09:07]	TR Bot	Blog Archive In 2023, Across England and Wales, About 55,000 More Deaths Than Before COVID-19
[09:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[09:20]	TR News	Dr. John Campbell Gets COVID-19 4+ Years After It Started https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/12/12/getting-covid-19/
[09:20]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Dr. John Campbell Gets COVID-19 4+ Years After It Started
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[09:38]	TR News	In Latest Week on Record, 12.01% Increase in Deaths Across England and Wales 4 Years After COVID-19 Started https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/12/12/covid-19-after-4-years/
[09:38]	TR Bot	Blog Archive In Latest Week on Record, 12.01% Increase in Deaths Across England and Wales 4 Years After COVID-19 Started
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[10:04]	TR News	Google Attacks Gemini Protocol With "Gemini Pro" Googlebombing https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/12/12/hijacking-gemini/
[10:04]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Google Attacks Gemini Protocol With Gemini Pro Googlebombing
[10:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[10:20]	TR News	"The path element becomes really powerful when we start using curves. One of them is the quadratic Bezier curve." https://svg-tutorial.com/svg/quadratic-bezier | Source: Hunor Mrton Borbly
[10:20]	TR Bot	 Day 11: How to Draw Quadratic Bzier Curves with SVG - SVG Tutorial
[10:20]	TR News	"While the quadratic Bzier is great when we want to bend a line, often its not flexible enough." https://svg-tutorial.com/svg/cubic-bezier | Source: Hunor Mrton Borbly
[10:20]	TR Bot	 Day 12: How to Draw Cubic Bzier Curves with SVG - SVG Tutorial
[10:20]	TR News	"Something about putting similar things on the same column of consecutive lines just feels right." https://eshelyaron.com/posts/2023-10-16-alignment-in-emacs.html |
[10:20]	TR Bot	 Alignment in Emacs
[10:22]	TR News	"The hidden attribute allows us to hide HTML elements from the page." https://www.htmhell.dev/adventcalendar/2023/11/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovi
[10:22]	TR Bot	 The hidden attribute in HTML - HTMHell
[10:22]	TR News	"I've started looking into syslog implementations when building a replacement for the use of busybox syslogd in postmarketOS" https://blog.brixit.nl/looking-closer-at-the-syslog/ | Source: Martijn Braam
[10:22]	TR Bot	 Looking closer at the syslog
[10:22]	TR News	"I dont entirely agree with his analysis." https://blog.apnic.net/2023/12/12/that-osi-model-refuses-to-die/ | Source: APNIC
[10:23]	TR Bot	 That OSI model refuses to die | APNIC Blog
[10:27]	TR News	"Support for Raspberry Pi 5 was added." https://www.alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.19.0-released.html |
[10:27]	TR Bot	 Alpine 3.19.0 released | Alpine Linux
[10:42]	TR News	"Amplifying the global impact of open source is at the heart of Canonicals mission." https://ubuntu.com//blog/introducing-canonicals-new-open-source-support-portal | Source: Ubuntu
[10:42]	TR Bot	Canonicals new open source support portal | Ubuntu
[10:43]	TR News	"Hopefully youll have made use of our Priority Boarding offer to get a Raspberry Pi 5 for yourself" https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/christmas-with-raspberry-pi-5-magpimonday/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
[10:43]	TR Bot	 Christmas with Raspberry Pi 5 | #MagPiMonday - Raspberry Pi
[10:43]	TR News	"CologneChip is European FPGA vendor. Their GateMate A1 chip has nice features: [...]" https://olimex.wordpress.com/2023/12/11/colognechip-gatemate-a1-evb-open-source-hardware-development-board-is-ready-for-prototyping/ | Source: Olimex
[10:43]	TR Bot	 CologneChip Gatemate-A1-EVB Open Source Hardware development board is ready for prototyping | olimex
[10:43]	TR News	"These sensors need to talk to some sort of microcontroller, and I have a few options." https://www.digikey.com/en/maker/projects/how-to-build-an-internet-connected-weather-station/0953c862c56d4f14a250bde878c7c37f | Source: Digi-key Electronics
[10:43]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.digikey.com/en/maker/projects/how-to-build-an-internet-connected-weather-station/0953c862c56d4f14a250bde878c7c37f )
[10:44]	TR News	"The Emacs master branch is brokenfor good, it seems." https://eshelyaron.com/posts/2023-12-10-bad-news.html |
[10:44]	TR Bot	 Bad NEWS, Emacs
[10:44]	TR News	"Emacs is a similar environment, although its functions can compose in even more ways." https://idiomdrottning.org/why-emacs | Source: Idiomdrottning
[10:44]	TR Bot	 Why Emacs
[10:47]	TR News	"My recent spate of browser-hopping while trying to base each such choice on The Data has, of course, required gathering data." https://www.brycewray.com/posts/2023/12/testing-testing-now-version-control/ | Source: Bryce Wray
[10:47]	TR Bot	testing: nowwith versioncontrol | BryceWray.com
[10:47]	TR News	 (NEW):  Raspberry Pi Changes HATs http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Raspberry_Pi_Changes_HATs.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Raspberry_Pi_Changes_HATs.gmi 
[10:47]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Raspberry Pi Changes HATs
[10:48]	TR News	[Old] "From November 2017 to November 2018, it took one year to complete. Both John Carmack and Dave Taylor kindly wrote forewords" https://fabiensanglard.net/gebbdoom/ | Source: Fabian Sanglard
[10:48]	TR Bot	 Game Engine Black Book DOOM
[10:48]	TR News	"The waterfall model is probably the most reviled methodology in software engineering." https://ntietz.com/blog/insights-from-the-original-waterfall-paper/ | Source: Nicholas Tietz-Sokolsky
[10:48]	TR Bot	 Insights and questions from the original waterfall paper | nicole@web
[10:49]	TR News	"clangDriver is the library implementing the compiler driver for Clang. It utilitizes LLVMOption to process command line options." https://maskray.me/blog/2023-08-25-clang-wunused-command-line-argument | Source: MaskRay
[10:49]	TR Bot	 Clang -Wunused-command-line-argument | MaskRay
[10:49]	TR News	"The new North Pole Application Group, as they dubbed themselves, quickly decided to build Santa's new database manager with Perl" https://perladvent.org/2023/2023-12-11.html | Source: Perl
[10:49]	TR Bot	 Perl Advent Calendar 2023 - Santa's Helpers' Helpers
[10:49]	TR News	"There are so many features that I could choose from, but I looked back at those I've been using for the past year" https://perladvent.org/2023/2023-12-12.html | Source: Perl
[10:49]	TR Bot	 Perl Advent Calendar 2023 - My Top 7 Perl New Features
[10:49]	TR News	"This is over-minimalist; a user couldnt even tell the scale of the latency measurements." https://raku-advent.blog/2023/12/11/day-11-networks-roasting-on-an-open-fire-part-2-axes-to-grind/ | Source: Rakulang
[10:49]	TR Bot	 Day 11 Networks Roasting on an Open Fire, Part 2: Axes to Grind Raku Advent Calendar
[10:50]	TR News	"Except some parts of the specification had not been implemented in the Pod::To::HTML renderer. And some parts were outdated." https://raku-advent.blog/2023/12/12/perspectives-on-rakudoc-version-2/ | Source: Rakulang
[10:50]	TR Bot	 Day 12 Perspectives on RakuDoc Version 2 Raku Advent Calendar
[10:50]	TR News	"So we can check the arguments and raise exceptions if theyre wrong." https://www.b-list.org/weblog/2023/dec/11/python-exceptions/ | Source: James Bennett
[10:50]	TR Bot	 Raise the right exceptions
[10:51]	TR News	"Size of download is 195K bytes." https://qemu-advent-calendar.org/2023/#Day10 | Source: Qemu
[10:51]	TR Bot	 QEMU Advent Calendar 2023
[10:51]	TR News	"Qemu Advent Calendar 2023: 9front is a fork of Plan 9 from Bell Labs operating system." ... "Size of download is 245M bytes." https://qemu-advent-calendar.org/2023/#Day11 | Source: Qemu
[10:51]	TR Bot	 QEMU Advent Calendar 2023
[10:51]	TR News	"A throwback, using characters for sprites" ... "Size of download is 12K bytes." https://qemu-advent-calendar.org/2023/#Day12 | Source: Qemu
[10:51]	TR Bot	 QEMU Advent Calendar 2023
[10:52]	TR News	 (NEW):  Banana Pi BPI-M4 Zero Allwinner H618 SBC follows Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W form factor http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Banana_Pi_BPI_M4_Zero_Allwinner_H618_SBC_follows_Raspberry_Pi_Z.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Banana_Pi_BPI_M4_Zero_Allwinner_H618_SBC_follows_Raspberry_Pi_Z.gmi 
[10:52]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Banana Pi BPI-M4 Zero Allwinner H618 SBC follows Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W form factor
[10:52]	TR News	"this was a fun detour on my way to cleaning up my RSS Feeds, but I just realized that Feedly doesn't seem to have an option" https://brandonwrites.xyz/rss-from-the-past/ | Source: Brandon
[10:52]	TR Bot	 RSS from the Past | Brandon Writes
[10:52]	TR News	"One of my favorite authors invited me to walk 100 kilometers (62 miles) through northern Thailand for seven days, ending in Chiang Mai" https://sive.rs/wt | Source: Derek Sivers
[10:52]	TR Bot	 walk and talk | Derek Sivers
[10:52]	TR News	"I like this methodology because you get to see how someone who is not involved in a project uses it." https://jamesg.blog/2023/12/11/technical-writing-dry-run/ | Source: James G
[10:52]	TR Bot	 Advent of Technical Writing: Internal Dry Run | James' Coffee Blog
[10:53]	TR News	"The four-story wall of water was finally confirmed in February 2022 as the most extreme rogue wave ever recorded at the time." https://kansasreflector.com/2023/12/10/kansas-newspaper-raid-exposed-a-shameful-abuse-of-power-its-not-just-the-press-thats-in-danger/ | Source: Kansas Reflector
[10:53]	TR Bot	 Kansas newspaper raid exposed a shameful abuse of power. It's not just the press that's in danger. - Kansas Reflector
[10:54]	TR News	"Did you know a million seconds is about 12 days, and a (short scale) billion seconds is 31 years!?" https://rubenerd.com/imagining-a-million-versus-billion/ | Source: Ruben Schade
[10:54]	TR Bot	Imagining a million versus billion
[10:54]	TR News	"One of the inspiring things Ive found in the book is the incredible change of perspective Darwin brought to the scientific community" https://two-wrongs.com/lessons-from-evolution | Source: Chris
[10:54]	TR Bot	 Lessons From Evolution
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[11:01]	schestowitz	DaemonFC: looks like something, maybe whackdoodle, is sending us 'voicemail' now
[11:01]	schestowitz	the broderline threats and stalking reach new levels
[11:01]	schestowitz	maybe time to get a restraining order
[11:02]	TR News	"In this latest addition to the Testing Handbook, we describe how to set up CodeQL locally and create a CodeQL database for your project." https://blog.trailofbits.com/2023/12/11/say-hello-to-the-next-chapter-of-the-testing-handbook/ | Source: Trail Of Bits
[11:02]	TR Bot	 Say hello to the next chapter of the Testing Handbook! | Trail of Bits Blog
[11:02]	TR News	"This all leads to a rather old-fashioned conclusion " https://criticaledtech.com/2023/12/12/presenting-a-recursive-view-of-the-future-school-field-notes/ | Source: Neil Selwyn
[11:02]	TR Bot	 Presenting a recursive view of the future school (field notes) Critical Studies of EDUCATION & TECHNOLOGY
[11:03]	TR News	"She said some of the products can be on the UK market legitimately if they comply with food standards" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-67642389 | Source: BBC
[11:03]	TR Bot	 Imported US sweets with illegal ingredients seized - BBC News
[11:04]	TR News	"A paper published in 2022 offers some insight into the situation: In a study of over 13,000 participants" https://www.dw.com/en/do-women-go-through-a-second-puberty/a-67667129 | Source: Deutsche Welle
[11:04]	TR Bot	women go through a second puberty? DW 12/11/2023
[11:04]	TR News	"American Candy" https://www.scotsman.com/news/world/trading-standards-warning-over-us-sweets-with-links-to-cancer-made-popular-on-tiktok-4441009 | Source: The Scotsman
[11:04]	TR Bot	 Trading Standards warning over US sweets with links to cancer made popular on TikTok
[11:04]	TR News	"From Coalition for Independent Technology Research v. Abbott, decided today by Judge Robert Pitman (W.D. Tex.): [...]" https://reason.com/volokh/2023/12/11/texass-ban-on-tiktok-use-by-government-employees-on-government-computers-upheld/ | Source: Reason
[11:04]	TR Bot	 Texas's Ban on TikTok Use by Government Employees on Government Computers Upheld
[11:05]	TR News	"IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that Plaintiffs motion for a preliminary injunction, (Dkt. 20), is MOOT." https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txwd.1172748060/gov.uscourts.txwd.1172748060.38.0.pdf |
[11:05]	TR News	"Wisdom, it seemed to me, was a step further removed, the bigger perspective of the Why connections between pieces of knowledge." https://www.mondo2000.com/2018/06/18/the-inspiration-for-hypercard/ |
[11:05]	TR Bot	 The Psychedelic Inspiration For Hypercard - Mondo 2000
[11:06]	TR News	"On the contrary, Software 2.0, written in abstract languages like neural network weights, is less friendly to humans." https://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2023/12/11/guest-post-food-for-thought-what-are-we-feeding-llms-and-how-will-this-impact-humanity/ | Source: Society for Scholarly Publishing
[11:06]	TR Bot	 Guest Post - Food for Thought: What Are We Feeding LLMs, and How Will this Impact Humanity? - The Scholarly Kitchen
[11:17]	TR News	"The not-for-profit healthcare system said it discovered the security incident" https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/11/norton_healthcare_ransomware/ | Source: The Register UK
[11:17]	TR Bot	 2.5m people's data lost in Norton hospital ransomware hit The Register
[11:17]	TR News	"Total number of persons affected (including residents): 2,500,000" https://apps.web.maine.gov/online/aeviewer/ME/40/0d29d7d3-48c2-4879-b6c7-32360396bd04.shtml |
[11:17]	TR Bot	 Office of the Maine AG: Consumer Protection: Privacy, Identity Theft and Data Security Breaches
[11:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[11:31]	TR News	 (NEW):   : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Android_Leftovers.gmi 
[11:31]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
[11:35]	TR News	"Israel police uses NSOs Pegasus spyware to remotely hack phones of Israeli citizens, control them and extract information from them" https://en.neritam.com/2023/12/11/israel-police-uses-nsos-pegasus-to-spy-on-citizens/ | Source: Neritam
[11:35]	TR Bot	 Israel police uses NSOs Pegasus to spy on citizens Neritam
[11:36]	TR News	"biggest expansion of surveillance" https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjvmpv/eyes-everywhere-congress-is-about-to-vote-to-expand-mass-surveillance-of-americans-experts-warn | Source: Vice Media Group
[11:36]	TR Bot	 'Eyes Everywhere': Congress Is About to Vote to Expand Mass Surveillance of Americans, Experts Warn
[11:36]	TR News	"Judge Robert L. Pitman of the United States District Court for the Western District of Texas" https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/11/business/tiktok-texas-ban.html | Source: New York Times
[11:36]	TR Bot	 Judge Upholds Texas TikTok Ban on Government Devices - The New York Times
[11:37]	TR News	"Most teens use TikTok (63%), Snapchat (60%) and Instagram (59%), but use of Facebook (33%) and Twitter (20%) is declining." https://www.axios.com/2023/12/11/social-media-teens-pew-tiktok-youtube-instagram-facebook-bereal-snapchat | Source: Axios
[11:37]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/12/11/social-media-teens-pew-tiktok-youtube-instagram-facebook-bereal-snapchat )
[11:37]	TR News	"Under the deal, Tokopedia will purchase TikTok Shop assets worth $340 million, while TikTok will buy a 75.01% stake in GoTo's PT Tokopedia" https://www.usnews.com/news/technology/articles/2023-12-10/tiktok-to-invest-1-5-billion-in-indonesias-goto | Source: US News And World Report
[11:37]	TR Bot	stream 1 was not closed cleanly: INTERNAL_ERROR (err 2) ( status 0 @ https://www.usnews.com/news/technology/articles/2023-12-10/tiktok-to-invest-1-5-billion-in-indonesias-goto )
[11:38]	TR News	"Can you explain why on earth a climate conference would be held in a major oil-producing country to begin with?" https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/al-gore-cop28-direct-conflict-of-interest-ridiculous-1234922512/ | Source: Rolling Stone
[11:38]	TR Bot	 Al Gore: COP28 Summit President Has 'Direct Conflict of Interest'
[11:38]	TR News	"The absence of a phase out of fossil fuels in the draft text leaves the 1.5C target on life support." https://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/2023/12/11/green-party-reacts-to-cop28-draft-text-1.5c-on-life-support/ | Source: Green Party UK
[11:38]	TR Bot	 Green Party reacts to COP28 draft text: 1.5C on life support | The Green Party
[11:38]	TR News	"The draft deal proposed options that would reduce the production and consumption of coal, oil and natural gas." https://www.dw.com/en/cop28-draft-deal-fails-to-include-fossil-fuel-phaseout/a-67690648 | Source: Deutsche Welle
[11:38]	TR Bot	draft deal fails to include fossil fuel 'phaseout' DW 12/11/2023
[11:39]	TR News	"COP28 climate conference in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) last week" https://www.vox.com/23996919/cop28-climate-methane-pledge-oil-gas-emissions-agriculture | Source: Vox
[11:39]	TR Bot	Oil and gas companies agree to cut methane at UN climate conference - Vox
[11:39]	TR News	"Elon Musks Real Threat to Democracy Isnt What You Think" https://www.thenation.com/article/society/elon-musk-democracy-threat/ | Source: The Nation
[11:40]	TR Bot	 Elon Musks Real Threat to Democracy Isnt What You Think | The Nation
[11:40]	TR News	"sent a letter to the Pentagon last month saying it could not continue to fund" https://www.rferl.org/a/musk-starlink-ukraine-funding-spacex/32084855.html | Source: RFERL
[11:40]	TR Bot	 'The Hell With It': SpaceX CEO Musk Reverses Position On Funding Satellite Internet For Ukraine
[11:41]	TR News	[Old] "determine the course of a war" https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-not-determine-course-of-war-starlink-bob-geldof-2023-11 | Source: Business Insider
[11:41]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk Shouldn't Be Able to 'Determine the Course of a War,' Says Bob Geldof
[11:41]	TR News	[Old] "SpaceX has admitted to limiting Ukraine's use of Starlink satellites for offensive military operations." https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-blocked-ukraine-starlink-access-crimea-russia-war-putin-2023-9 | Source: Business Insider
[11:41]	TR Bot	 Musk Blocked Ukraine's Starlink Access Near Crimea
[11:41]	TR News	"The word 'phaseout' has been phased out" https://www.axios.com/2023/12/11/fossil-fuel-phaseout-cusp-of-history-cop28 | Source: Axios
[11:41]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/12/11/fossil-fuel-phaseout-cusp-of-history-cop28 )
[11:42]	TR News	Elop: kill Nokia. Elon: kill Twitter.
[11:43]	TR News	"Unlike traditional data visualisations, the blankets pattern only features colours and resembles a barcode more than a normal graph." https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20231206-the-coloured-stripes-that-explain-climate-change | Source: BBC
[11:43]	TR Bot	coloured stripes that explain climate change - BBC Future
[11:55]	TR News	 (NEW):  Calamares 3.3 Released as the Next Generation Graphical Installer for Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Calamares_3_3_Released_as_the_Next_Generation_Graphical_Install.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Calamares_3_3_Released_as_the_Next_Generation_Graphical_Install.gmi 
[11:55]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Calamares 3.3 Released as the Next Generation Graphical Installer for Linux
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[12:09]	TR News	 (NEW):  In Nigeria, Africa's Largest Population (by Far), Windows May Soon Fall to Just 5% Market Share http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/In_Nigeria_Africa_s_Largest_Population_by_Far_Windows_May_Soon_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/In_Nigeria_Africa_s_Largest_Population_by_Far_Windows_May_Soon_.gmi 
[12:09]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines In Nigeria, Africa's Largest Population (by Far), Windows May Soon Fall to Just 5% Market Share
[12:11]	TR News	"Energy is undercosted because transaction externalities like pollution and climate change arent fully factored in." https://idiomdrottning.org/energy-is-undercosted | Source: Idiomdrottning
[12:11]	TR Bot	 Energy is undercosted
[12:11]	TR News	"Notably, the surge in affordable EVs from China has heightened the competitive challenges faced by traditional automakers." https://interestingengineering.com/transportation/automakers-rush-evs-chinese-competition | Source: Interesting Engineering
[12:11]	TR Bot	 Automakers rush for affordable EVs amidst China competition
[12:11]	TR News	"The rise of inexpensive Chinese electric vehicles has upped the pressure on legacy automakers who have turned to suppliers" https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/fear-cheap-chinese-evs-spurs-automaker-dash-affordable-cars-2023-12-08/ | Source: Reuters
[12:11]	TR Bot	of cheap Chinese EVs spurs automaker dash for affordable cars | Reuters
[12:12]	TR News	"The trick, it appears, is to offset areas in which targets have been missed against other areas in which targets have been exceeded." https://www.dw.com/en/deutsche-bahn-bosses-pick-up-bonuses-as-passengers-suffer/a-67691505 | Source: Deutsche Welle
[12:12]	TR Bot	Bahn bosses pick up bonuses as passengers suffer DW 12/11/2023
[12:12]	TR News	"Lighting is responsible for 11% of electricity use in commercial buildings and residential basements, garages and shops" https://record.umich.edu/articles/study-examines-switching-from-fluorescent-lamps-to-leds/ | Source: University of Michigan
[12:12]	TR Bot	 Study examines switching from fluorescent lamps to LEDs | The University Record
[12:13]	TR News	"Because the law will not be in force until 2025, the EU will urge companies to begin voluntarily following the rules in the interim." https://www.axios.com/2023/12/11/eu-ai-law-catch | Source: Axios
[12:13]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/12/11/eu-ai-law-catch )
[12:13]	TR News	"If our call for transgression had been written in academic prose destined for obscure scholarly journals, we would surely have been ignored." https://www.thenation.com/article/world/disney-allende-chile-donald-duck/ | Source: The Nation
[12:13]	TR Bot	 Socialism and Disney Are Incompatible | The Nation
[12:14]	TR News	"Its done. Its over. Two and a half years after it was first introducedafter months of lobbying and political arm-wrestling" https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/12/11/1084942/five-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-eus-new-ai-act/ | Source: MIT Technology Review
[12:14]	TR Bot	 Five things you need to know about the EUs new AI Act | MIT Technology Review
[12:15]	TR News	"To better understand the key sticking points and whats next, I spoke with our senior AI reporter Melissa Heikkil and Connor Dunlop" https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/12/11/1084849/why-the-eu-ai-act-was-so-hard-to-agree-on/ | Source: MIT Technology Review
[12:15]	TR Bot	 Why the EU AI Act was so hard to agree on | MIT Technology Review
[12:15]	TR News	"Ahead of the curve or behind the times?" https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/experts-react/experts-react-the-eu-made-a-deal-on-ai-rules-but-can-regulators-move-at-the-speed-of-tech/ | Source: Atlantic Council
[12:15]	TR Bot	 Experts react: The EU made a deal on AI rules. But can regulators move at the speed of tech? - Atlantic Council
[12:16]	TR News	"mandating interim payments" https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2023/12/law-bytes-podcast-episode-188/ | Source: Michael Geist
[12:16]	TR Bot	 The Law Bytes Podcast, Episode 188: Consumers, Competition or Corporate Cash Grab? - My Bill C-11 Appearance at the CRTC - Michael Geist
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[12:17]	TR News	"New World Order" https://text.npr.org/1218453370 | Source: NPR
[12:17]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk allows controversial conspiracy theorist Alex Jones back on X
[12:17]	TR News	"Relatives of the school shooting victims testified at the trials about being harassed and threatened by Jones believers" https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/elon-musk-restores-account-conspiracy-theorist-alex-jones-105530043 | Source: ABC
[12:17]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk restores X account of conspiracy theorist Alex Jones - ABC News
[12:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[12:22]	TR News	"It is under the control of international businesses." https://news.err.ee/1609191148/study-freedom-of-speech-perceived-as-biggest-human-rights-concern-in-estonia | Source: Eesti Rahvusringhling
[12:22]	TR Bot	 Study: Freedom of speech perceived as biggest human rights concern in Estonia | News | ERR
[12:22]	TR News	"She said it was the "final straw" for teachers at the school, who had complained of a "very degraded climate" as well as a "lack of support"..." https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231211-renaissance-nudes-spark-crisis-at-french-school | Source: France24
[12:22]	TR Bot	 Renaissance nudes spark crisis at French school
[12:23]	TR News	"Education Minister Gabriel Attal visited the Jacques-Cartier middle school in Issou, west of Paris, today but left without making a statement" https://www.rte.ie/news/europe/2023/1211/1421417-france-nude-painting/ | Source: RTE
[12:23]	TR Bot	 Teachers stop work at French school over nude painting
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[12:38]	TR News	"Now, even the ability to think for oneself is in danger of extinction" https://off-guardian.org/2023/12/11/bah-humbug-the-police-state-wants-us-to-be-a-nation-of-snowflakes/ | Source: Off Guardian
[12:38]	TR Bot	 Bah Humbug: The Police State Wants Us To Be a Nation of Snowflakes OffGuardian
[12:38]	TR News	"The prison where he is being held claims to have an ongoing power cut." https://www.scotsman.com/news/world/fears-over-safety-of-putin-critic-alexey-navalny-missing-for-six-days-after-failing-to-appear-in-court-by-video-link-4441192 | Source: The Scotsman
[12:38]	TR Bot	 Fears over safety of Putin critic Alexey Navalny missing for six days after failing to appear in court by video link
[12:43]	TR News	"In the modern world, access to your electronics" https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2023/12/attacking-journalists-as-terrorists/ | Source: Craig Murray
[12:43]	TR Bot	 Attacking Journalists as Terrorists - Craig Murray
[12:45]	TR News	"As a reference, I refer to the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 2.2, as they are popular and well documented." https://www.htmhell.dev/adventcalendar/2023/10/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovi
[12:45]	TR Bot	 Template for accessibility guidelines - HTMHell
[12:45]	TR News	"If either side caves, it will have profound impacts across Sweden" https://jacobin.com/2023/12/tesla-swedish-unions-nordic-elon-musk-labor-green-transition/ | Source: Jacobin Magazine
[12:45]	TR Bot	 Tesla Has Bitten Off More Than It Can Chew by Picking a Fight With Swedish Unions
[12:46]	TR News	"The dismissal order, signed by Gennessee District Judge William Crawford" https://www.mlive.com/news/flint/2023/12/judge-closes-flint-water-case-against-former-michigan-governor.html | Source: Michigan News
[12:46]	TR Bot	closes Flint water case against former Michigan governor - mlive.com
[12:46]	TR News	"Since 2015, an additional 687 million people have gained safe drinking water services." https://www.csis.org/analysis/evolving-and-incompletely-realized-human-right-water | Source: CSIS
[12:46]	TR Bot	 The Evolving and Incompletely Realized Human Right to Water
[12:47]	TR News	"Theyre called Domestic Employees Teleworking Overseas (DETOs). Most are the spouses of military and Foreign Service officers." https://federalnewsnetwork.com/federal-report/2023/12/feds-teleworking-overseas-got-a-pay-raise-state-dept-honors-an-employee-who-made-it-happen/ | Source: Federal News Network
[12:47]	TR Bot	 Feds teleworking overseas got a pay raise. State Dept honors an employee who made it happen | Federal News Network
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[12:50]	TR News	"Netflix didnt comment on anything specific behind the outage" https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/11/23997733/netflix-is-down-outage-checking-internet-connection-error | Source: The Verge
[12:50]	TR Bot	 Netflix is back, after an outage knocked many people offline for a few hours - The Verge
[12:52]	TR News	"Google could be forced to alter its Play Store rules" https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/11/technology/epic-games-google-antitrust-ruling.html | Source: New York Times
[12:52]	TR Bot	 Google Loses Court Fight Over App Store With Makers of Fortnite - The New York Times
[12:53]	TR News	"evidence that Google was willing to pay billions of dollars to stifle alternative app stores" https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/12/epic_v_google_epic_wins/ | Source: The Register UK
[12:53]	TR Bot	 Jury finds Googles Play store is illegal monopoly The Register
[12:55]	TR News	"[The jury] decided Google has an illegal tie between its Google Play app store and its Google Play Billing payment services, too" https://www.axios.com/2023/12/12/google-antitrust-suit-epic-games | Source: Axios
[12:55]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/12/12/google-antitrust-suit-epic-games )
[12:55]	TR News	"Three years after Fortnite-maker Epic Games sued Apple and Google for allegedly running illegal app store monopolies, Epic has a win." https://www.theverge.com/23994174/epic-google-trial-jury-verdict-monopoly-google-play | Source: The Verge
[12:55]	TR Bot	 Epic win: Jury decides Google has illegal monopoly in app store fight - The Verge
[12:56]	TR News	"As such, the Windows vendor parachuted a non-voting observer into OpenAI's board." https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/11/microsoft_openai_investment_ftc/ | Source: The Register UK
[12:56]	TR Bot	 Microsoft's OpenAI investment might merit a closer look The Register
[12:58]	TR News	"The CMA will review whether the partnership has resulted in an acquisition of control that is, where it results in one party having material influence" https://www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-seeks-views-on-microsofts-partnership-with-openai | Source: The United Kingdom
[12:58]	TR Bot	seeks views on Microsofts partnership with OpenAI - GOV.UK
[12:58]	TR News	"On Friday (Dec. 8), the CMA said its seeking comment from interested parties, giving Microsoft, OpenAI, and others an opportunity to weigh in." https://qz.com/the-uk-is-investigating-the-microsoft-and-openai-partne-1851089181 | Source: Quartz
[12:58]	TR Bot	 The UK is investigating the Microsoft and OpenAI partnership
[12:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[12:59]	TR News	"Throughout the last year, Creative Commons has actively engaged in the EUs development of an AI Act." https://creativecommons.org/2023/12/11/on-openness-copyright-eu-ai-act-final-version-appears-to-include-promising-changes/ | Source: Creative Commons
[12:59]	TR Bot	 On Openness & Copyright, EU AI Act Final Version Appears to Include Promising Changes - Creative Commons
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[13:01]	TR News	Estonian media "conflates microsoft buying products with digital skills" https://news.err.ee/1609191037/digital-skills-of-students-not-always-utilized-in-class-in-estonia
[13:01]	TR Bot	 Digital skills of students not always utilized in class in Estonia | News | ERR
[13:01]	TR News	"Judge Allows Major Right to Repair Lawsuit Against John Deere to Move Forward" https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/12/10/0316228
[13:01]	TR Bot	 Judge Allows Major Right to Repair Lawsuit Against John Deere to Move Forward - SoylentNews
[13:02]	TR News	google losing. https://www.epicgames.com/site/en-US/news/epic-v-google-trial-verdict-a-win-for-all-developers site blocked by gratuitous javascript
[13:02]	TR Bot	 Epic v Google Trial Verdict, a Win for All Developers - Epic Games
[13:03]	TR News	theregister "still milking a non-problem" https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/11/log4j_vulnerabilities/ patched over 2 years ago!!
[13:03]	TR Bot	 One in four apps remain exposed to Log4Shell The Register
[13:04]	TR News	EFF schneier now spreading misleading material https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2023/12/facebook-enables-messenger-end-to-end-encryption-by-default.html schneier = EFF board. EFF = funded by Facebook: http://techrights.org/n/2023/12/09/The_EFF_Should_Know_Better_But_It_Is_Promoting_Mass_Surveillanc.shtmlhttp://techrights.org/n/2023/12/09/Electronic_Frontier_Foundation_Incorporated_is_Run_by_for_Corpo.shtml
[13:04]	TR Bot	Enables Messenger End-to-End Encryption by Default - Schneier on Security
[13:04]	TR Bot	( status 404 @ http://techrights.org/n/2023/12/09/The_EFF_Should_Know_Better_But_It_Is_Promoting_Mass_Surveillanc.shtmlhttp://techrights.org/n/2023/12/09/Electronic_Frontier_Foundation_Incorporated_is_Run_by_for_Corpo.shtml )
[13:05]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/n/2023/12/09/The_EFF_Should_Know_Better_But_It_Is_Promoting_Mass_Surveillanc.shtml http://techrights.org/n/2023/12/09/Electronic_Frontier_Foundation_Incorporated_is_Run_by_for_Corpo.shtml
[13:05]	TR Bot	 Techrights The EFF Should Know Better, But It Is Promoting Mass Surveillance by Facebook (an Endorsement of Lies)
[13:05]	TR Bot	 Techrights Electronic Frontier Foundation Incorporated is Run by/for Corporations Now (Members' Money is Less Than a Quarter of the Money EFF Receives)
[13:06]	TR News	conde nast's "Reddit has restored services after major outage" https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/11/23997108/reddit-outage-posts-comments-not-loading conde nast = LAYOFFS, it's failing. Many managers resign.
[13:06]	TR Bot	 Reddit has restored services after major outage - The Verge
[13:08]	TR News	"Why the sentence imposed on Michigan school shooter Ethan Crumbley is significant" https://kentwired.com/107346/world-nation/why-the-sentence-imposed-on-michigan-school-shooter-ethan-crumbley-is-significant/
[13:08]	TR Bot	the sentence imposed on Michigan school shooter Ethan Crumbley is significant KentWired
[13:13]	TR News	OSI Deprogrammer: Re-conceptualizing cyberspace https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iL0fYmMmariFoSvLd9U5nPVH1uFKC7bvVasUcYq78So/mobilebasic
[13:13]	TR Bot	 The OSI Deprogrammer
[13:13]	TR News	HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://femtejuli.se/2023/12/11/sa-vill-eu-ta-makten-over-ai/
[13:13]	TR Bot	 S vill EU ta makten ver AI
[13:14]	TR News	starlink https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/11/26/elon-musk-starlink-ukraine-russia-destroyed-space-law/
[13:14]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk's Starlink satellites aiding Ukraine may be legally destroyed by Russia, says space expert
[13:15]	TR News	zuckerberg and muskenberg https://www.cnbc.com/video/2023/11/24/musk-and-zuckerberg-pretty-inadequate-people-bob-geldof.html
[13:15]	TR Bot	 Musk and Zuckerberg 'pretty inadequate people': Bob Geldof
[13:15]	TR News	France https://www.indianagazette.com/the_wire/renaissance-nudes-spark-crisis-at-french-school/article_bfdc2159-55c5-5157-88ed-505e9dd1288c.html
[13:15]	TR Bot	( status 451 @ https://www.indianagazette.com/the_wire/renaissance-nudes-spark-crisis-at-french-school/article_bfdc2159-55c5-5157-88ed-505e9dd1288c.html )
[13:15]	TR News	Fate of Debian https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/general-10/the-collapse-of-debian-4175731419/page9.html
[13:15]	TR Bot	 The collapse of Debian - Page 9
[13:17]	TR News	"In this guide, we present to you some of the most commonly asked questions in Linux interviews and answers." https://www.tecmint.com/linux-interview-questions/ | Source: TecMint
[13:17]	TR Bot	 30 Most Commonly Asked Linux Interview Questions
[13:18]	TR News	"Chaining of commands in Linux is something like you are writing short shell scripts at the shell itself, and executing them from the terminal directly." https://www.tecmint.com/chaining-operators-in-linux-with-practical-examples/ | Source: TecMint
[13:18]	TR Bot	 10 Useful Chaining Operators in Linux with Examples
[13:18]	TR News	"Not enough DOOM in your life? How about trying out the massive release of Eviternity II, a full 36-map megawad sequel to Eviternity." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/12/eviternity-ii-is-a-massive-36-map-megawad-for-doom-ii/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[13:18]	TR Bot	II is a massive 36-map megawad for DOOM II | GamingOnLinux
[13:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[13:22]	TR News	"To go along with the 30th anniversary of DOOM, John Romero has released SIGIL II, a second megawad to blast through with 9 new levels." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/12/sigil-ii-from-john-romero-out-now-for-classic-doom/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[13:22]	TR Bot	II from John Romero out now for classic DOOM | GamingOnLinux
[13:22]	TR News	"Continuing the day of DOOM announcements following the release of SIGIL II, we also have a big update to Voxel Doom II." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/12/voxel-doom-ii-gets-updated-with-parallax-textures/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[13:22]	TR Bot	Doom II gets updated with Parallax Textures | GamingOnLinux
[13:24]	TR News	Valve announced more Steam sales and events for 2024 https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/12/valve-announced-more-steam-sales-and-events-for-2024/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[13:24]	TR Bot	announced more Steam sales and events for 2024 | GamingOnLinux
[13:25]	TR News	"DUSK HD + SDK & Steam Workshop out now" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/12/dusk-hd-sdk-steam-workshop-out-now-linux-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[13:25]	TR Bot	HD + SDK & Steam Workshop out now - needs Proton on Linux / Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
[13:25]	TR News	"" https://puri.sm/posts/pureboot-not-vulnerable-to-uefi-exploits-again/ | Source: Purism http://techrights.org/wiki/UEFI/#2023
[13:26]	TR Bot	 PureBoot Not Vulnerable to UEFI Exploits (Again) Purism
[13:26]	TR Bot	 UEFI
[13:26]	TR News	Humble? https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/12/humble-bring-back-their-cozy-game-collection-bundle-for-a-limited-time/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[13:26]	TR Bot	bring back their Cozy Game Collection Bundle for a limited time | GamingOnLinux
[13:29]	TR News	Many articles in BillBC about "shoplifters" lately, but the world's biggest shoplifter FUNDS the BillBC for propaganda. "BLAME THE POOR!!!"
[13:29]	TR News	"Build, debug and optimize a computer network in an underground facility. Tunnet is certainly something quite different and it's out now." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/12/tunnet-has-you-dig-deep-underground-while-you-build-and-debug-a-big-network/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[13:29]	TR Bot	has you dig deep underground while you build and debug a big network | GamingOnLinux
[13:31]	TR News	Social control media does not help people with a career. If anything, it rewards people to say and do things that make them unemployable. Who benefits?
[13:31]	TR News	"" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/12/build-up-and-higher-in-stellar-settlers-a-colony-sim-with-vertical-building/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[13:31]	TR Bot	up and higher in Stellar Settlers a colony sim with vertical building | GamingOnLinux
[13:31]	TR News	"Cassette Beasts is probably one of the best modern creature collecting games around, and early in 2024 it's getting online multiplayer." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/12/cassette-beasts-gets-a-new-multiplayer-feature-teaser-update-coming-early-2024/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[13:31]	TR Bot	Beasts gets a new multiplayer feature teaser - update coming early 2024 | GamingOnLinux
[13:38]	TR News	"rightsholders" https://torrentfreak.com/dont-fuel-the-copyright-troll-fire-supreme-court-hears-231211/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[13:38]	TR Bot	Fuel the Copyright Troll Fire, Supreme Court Hears * TorrentFreak
[13:38]	TR News	IPTV Blocking Orders Apply to All DNS https://torrentfreak.com/piracy-shield-iptv-blocking-orders-apply-to-all-dns-vpn-providers-231211/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[13:38]	TR Bot	Shield: IPTV Blocking Orders Apply to All DNS & VPN Providers * TorrentFreak
[13:38]	TR News	 (NEW):  Games: 30th Anniversary of DOOM, Valve/Steam, Humble http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Games_30th_Anniversary_of_DOOM_Valve_Steam_Humble.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Games_30th_Anniversary_of_DOOM_Valve_Steam_Humble.gmi 
[13:38]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Games: 30th Anniversary of DOOM, Valve/Steam, Humble
[13:39]	TR News	"Undoing Decades of Environmental Harm on a California River" https://therevelator.org/trinity-river-restoration/ | Source: The Revelator
[13:39]	TR Bot	 Like a Dead Zone: Undoing Decades of Environmental Harm on a California River The Revelator
[13:42]	TR News	Billionaires https://robertreich.org/post/736451234223046656 | Source: Robert Reich
[13:42]	TR Bot	 Robert Reich (Billionaires Dont Want You to Know About This...)
[13:43]	TR News	"antivaxxers"? COVID-19 was not properly dealt with and those vaccines not properly tested. It's not "antivaxxer" to be sceptical of these. https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2023/12/11/steve-kirschs-new-zealand-mother-of-all-revelations-about-covid-19-vaccines-fizzles/ |
[13:43]	TR Bot	 Steve Kirsch's New Zealand "mother of all revelations" about COVID-19 vaccines fizzles - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE
[13:48]	TR News	How To Install Apache OpenOffice on Debian 12 https://idroot.us/install-apache-openoffice-debian-12/ OpenOffice?!
[13:48]	TR Bot	 How To Install Apache OpenOffice on Debian 12 - idroot
[13:49]	TR News	How To Install UrBackup on Debian 12 https://idroot.us/install-urbackup-debian-12/
[13:49]	TR Bot	 How To Install UrBackup on Debian 12 - idroot
[13:49]	TR News	Debian 12.4 Bookworm Released with Bug Fixes and Security Updates https://idroot.us/debian-12-4-released/
[13:49]	TR Bot	 Debian 12.4 Bookworm Released with Bug Fixes and Security Updates - idroot
[13:49]		*MinceR gives voice to psydroid2 ZedHedTed
[13:51]	TR News	How To Install Taiga on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS https://idroot.us/install-taiga-ubuntu-22-04/
[13:51]	TR Bot	 How To Install Taiga on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS - idroot
[13:51]	TR News	How To Install Anaconda on Fedora 39 https://idroot.us/install-anaconda-fedora-39/
[13:51]	TR Bot	 How To Install Anaconda on Fedora 39 - idroot
[13:51]	MinceR	12 044055 <@DaemonFC> So unless Al Franken is a Lizard Person, then the vote shouldn't have been given to him.
[13:51]	MinceR	maybe the whole point of that exercise was to prove that legally al franken is a lizard person
[13:52]	TR News	How to Install GNOME Flashback on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-gnome-flashback-on-ubuntu-linux/
[13:52]	TR Bot	to Install GNOME Flashback on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 - LinuxCapable
[13:52]	TR News	How to Install GIT on CentOS Stream EL9 or EL8 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-git-on-centos-stream/
[13:52]	TR Bot	to Install GIT on CentOS Stream EL9 or EL8 - LinuxCapable
[13:52]	TR News	How to Install PHP on CentOS Stream EL9 or EL8 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-php-on-centos-stream/
[13:52]	TR Bot	to Install PHP on CentOS Stream EL9 or EL8 - LinuxCapable
[13:53]	TR News	How to Change Hostname on Ubuntu 22.04 https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-change-hostname-on-ubuntu-22-04/
[13:53]	TR Bot	to Change Hostname on Ubuntu 22.04 | Linuxize
[13:53]	TR News	How to run a Perl script on GNU/Linux https://owlhowto.com/how-to-run-a-perl-script-on-linux/
[13:53]	TR Bot	 How to run a Perl script on Linux
[13:53]	TR News	How to Install SELinux on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-selinux-on-ubuntu-linux/
[13:53]	TR Bot	to Install SELinux on Ubuntu 22.04 or 20.04 - LinuxCapable
[13:53]	TR News	How to Change User Password in GNU/Linux https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-change-user-password-in-linux/
[13:53]	TR Bot	to Change User Password in Linux - LinuxCapable
[13:54]	TR News	How to change DNS servers on a GNOME-based GNU/Linux distribution (and why you should) https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/networking/how-to-set-specific-dns-servers-on-a-gnome-based-linux-distribution-and-why-you-should/
[13:54]	TR Bot	to change DNS servers on a GNOME-based Linux distribution (and why you should) | ZDNET
[13:54]	TR News	How to Install Yay AUR Helper in Arch GNU/Linux and Manjaro https://www.tecmint.com/install-yay-aur-helper-in-arch-linux-and-manjaro/
[13:54]	TR Bot	 How to Install Yay AUR Helper in Arch Linux and Manjaro
[13:55]	TR News	How to Upgrade to GNU/Linux Mint 21.3 Virginia Beta https://www.linuxcapable.com/upgrade-linux-mint-minor-release/
[13:55]	TR Bot	to Upgrade to Linux Mint 21.3 Virginia Beta - LinuxCapable
[13:56]	TR News	How to Install Linux Kernel Headers on Rocky Linux EL9 or EL8 https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-linux-kernel-headers-on-rocky-linux/
[13:56]	TR Bot	to Install Linux Kernel Headers on Rocky Linux EL9 or EL8 - LinuxCapable
[13:57]	TR News	Krita 5.2.2 Released, Snap Package Updated in Ubuntu Software https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2023/12/krita-5-2-2-released/
[13:57]	TR Bot	 Krita 5.2.2 Released, Snap Package Updated in Ubuntu Software | UbuntuHandbook
[13:57]	TR News	Google Attacks Gemini Protocol With Gemini Pro Googlebombing https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/12/12/hijacking-gemini/
[13:57]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Google Attacks Gemini Protocol With Gemini Pro Googlebombing
[13:57]	TR News	Googlebombing in action https://www.cloudbooklet.com/notebooklm-with-gemini-pro/ gemini proTOCOl? No?
[13:57]	TR Bot	Revolutionize Your Research with Gemini Pro-Powered AI - Cloudbooklet AI
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[13:59]	TR News	Greg Kroah-Hartman Explains Linux Kernel Security https://www.fosslife.org/greg-kroah-hartman-explains-linux-kernel-security
[13:59]	TR Bot	 Greg Kroah-Hartman Explains Linux Kernel Security
● Dec 12
[14:00]	TR News	SpellBinding: EIMRSTX Wordo: PUCKS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2023-12-12.gmi
[14:01]	TR News	The Quest Queue gemini://idiomdrottning.org/the_quest_queue
[14:02]	TR News	"Now you got me wondering whether I sound/read pseudo-Buddhist. Probably. I mean, anything's possible in the realm of others interpreting what they're convinced themselves they're seeing." gemini://tilde.club/~oldernow/2023-12-12-07-00-18.gmi
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[14:08]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today's HowTos   http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/today_s_howtos.gmi 
[14:08]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[14:10]	TR News	 (NEW):  Security and Windows TCO Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Security_and_Windows_TCO_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Security_and_Windows_TCO_Leftovers.gmi 
[14:10]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security and Windows TCO Leftovers
[14:17]	TR News	U.S. Air Force Moves To Discipline 15 Personnel Related To Leak Case Including Ukraine Data https://www.rferl.org/a/us-air-force-leak-case-ukraine-data/32725973.html
[14:17]	TR Bot	 U.S. Air Force Moves To Discipline 15 Personnel Related To Leak Case Including Ukraine Data
[14:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[14:23]	TR News	Security Service investigates potential electronics supply to Russia https://eng.lsm.lv/article/society/crime/11.12.2023-security-service-investigates-potential-electronics-supply-to-russia.a534888/
[14:23]	TR Bot	 Security Service investigates potential electronics supply to Russia / Article
[14:25]	TR News	Russian Court Confirms RFE/RL's Kurmasheva To Remain In Custody https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-rferl-kurmasheva-detention-confirmed/32726891.html
[14:25]	TR Bot	 RFE/RL's Kurmasheva Faces New Russian Charge, To Remain In Custody
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[14:38]	TR News	"fakes" https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/12/12/detained-russian-american-journalist-alsu-kurmasheva-facing-new-charges-investigated-for-fakes-against-the-russian-army-for-2022-book | Source: Meduza
[14:38]	TR Bot	 Detained Russian-American journalist Alsu Kurmasheva facing new charges, investigated for fakes against the Russian army for 2022 book Meduza
[14:42]	TR News	Qubes Canary 037 https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2023/12/11/canary-037/
[14:42]	TR Bot	 Qubes Canary 037 | Qubes OS
[14:43]	TR News	WP Briefing: Episode 68: Toward a More Interconnected Web https://wordpress.org/news/2023/12/episode-68-toward-a-more-interconnected-web/
[14:43]	TR Bot	 Episode 68: Toward a More Interconnected Web WordPress News
[14:45]	TR News	Late Night Linux Episode 259 https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-259/
[14:45]	TR Bot	 Late Night Linux Episode 259 Late Night Linux
[14:46]	TR News	Linux User Space Episode 4:10: GNOME in the Home https://www.linuxuserspace.show/410
[14:46]	TR Bot	 Linux User Space: Episode 4:10: GNOME in the Home
[14:48]	TR News	Destination Linux 350: Holiday Gift Guide & EFF Announces Privacy Law Framework https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/destination-linux/dl-350/
[14:48]	TR Bot	Holiday Gift Guide & EFF Announces Privacy Law Framework - Destination Linux - TuxDigital
[14:51]	TR News	Number of Covid-19 cases in Malaysia nearly doubles in a week https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/number-of-covid-19-cases-in-malaysia-nearly-doubles-in-a-week
[14:51]	TR Bot	 Number of Covid-19 cases in Malaysia nearly doubles in a week | The Straits Times
[14:51]	TR News	Indonesia on high alert as Covid-19 cases rise; thermal scanners installed at Jakarta airport https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/indonesia-on-high-alert-as-covid-19-cases-rise-installs-thermal-scanners-at-airports
[14:51]	TR Bot	 Indonesia on high alert as Covid-19 cases rise; thermal scanners installed at Jakarta airport | The Straits Times
[14:51]	TR News	Over 500 Covid patients in Latvia's hospitals https://eng.lsm.lv/article/society/health/11.12.2023-over-500-covid-patients-in-latvias-hospitals.a534919/
[14:51]	TR Bot	 Over 500 Covid patients in Latvia's hospitals / Article
[14:52]	TR News	Dr. John Campbell Gets COVID-19 4+ Years After It Started https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/12/12/getting-covid-19/
[14:52]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Dr. John Campbell Gets COVID-19 4+ Years After It Started
[14:52]	TR News	In Latest Week on Record, 12.01% Increase in Deaths Across England and Wales 4 Years After COVID-19 Started https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/12/12/covid-19-after-4-years/
[14:52]	TR Bot	Blog Archive In Latest Week on Record, 12.01% Increase in Deaths Across England and Wales 4 Years After COVID-19 Started
[14:52]	TR News	In 2023, Across England and Wales, About 55,000 More Deaths Than Before COVID-19 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/12/12/55k-more-deaths/
[14:52]	TR Bot	Blog Archive In 2023, Across England and Wales, About 55,000 More Deaths Than Before COVID-19
[14:57]	TR News	Stasit smartphone patent monopoly reexam granted https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2023/12/8/stasit-smartphone-patent-reexam-granted
[14:57]	TR Bot	 Stasit smartphone patent reexam granted Unified Patents
[14:58]	TR News	Australian smartphone shipments down in 3Q for fourth straight quarter https://itwire.com/mobility/australian-3q-smartphone-shipments-down-for-fourth-straight-quarter.html nothing grows forever except human greed
[14:58]	TR Bot	- Australian smartphone shipments down in 3Q for fourth straight quarter
[14:58]	TR News	Epic Games prevails in anti-trust suit against Surveillance Giant Google https://itwire.com/entertainment/epic-games-prevails-in-anti-trust-suit-against-google.html
[14:58]	TR Bot	- Epic Games prevails in anti-trust suit against Google
[14:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[14:59]	TR News	Judge Upholds Texas Fentanylware (TikTok) Ban on Government Devices https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/11/business/tiktok-texas-ban.html
[14:59]	TR Bot	 Judge Upholds Texas TikTok Ban on Government Devices - The New York Times
[14:59]	TR News	Texas's Ban on Fentanylware (TikTok) Use by Government Employees on Government Computers Upheld https://reason.com/volokh/2023/12/11/texass-ban-on-tiktok-use-by-government-employees-on-government-computers-upheld/
[14:59]	TR Bot	 Texas's Ban on TikTok Use by Government Employees on Government Computers Upheld
● Dec 12
[15:00]	TR News	Pluralistic: Daddy-Daughter Podcast 2023 (11 Dec 2023) https://pluralistic.net/2023/12/11/daddy-daughter-2023/
[15:00]	TR Bot	 Pluralistic: Daddy-Daughter Podcast 2023 (11 Dec 2023) Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
[15:04]	TR News	 (NEW):  Audiocasts/Shows: Late Night Linux, Linux User Space, Destination Linux, and WordPress Briefing http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Audiocasts_Shows_Late_Night_Linux_Linux_User_Space_Destination_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Audiocasts_Shows_Late_Night_Linux_Linux_User_Space_Destination_.gmi 
[15:04]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Audiocasts/Shows: Late Night Linux, Linux User Space, Destination Linux, and WordPress Briefing
[15:07]	TR News	 (NEW):  Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi, CologneChip, and ESP32 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_CologneChip_and_ESP32.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_CologneChip_and_ESP32.gmi 
[15:07]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi, CologneChip, and ESP32
[15:09]	TR News	 (NEW):  Bad NEWS, Emacs, and Why Emacs http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Bad_NEWS_Emacs_and_Why_Emacs.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Bad_NEWS_Emacs_and_Why_Emacs.gmi 
[15:09]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Bad NEWS, Emacs, and Why Emacs
[15:10]	TR News	 (NEW):  Microsoft Under Antitrust Investigation Again http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Microsoft_Under_Antitrust_Investigation_Again.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Microsoft_Under_Antitrust_Investigation_Again.gmi 
[15:10]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Microsoft Under Antitrust Investigation Again
[15:10]		*danse-nr3 (~danse@151.57.235.147) has joined #techrights
[15:12]	TR News	 (NEW):   Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Programming_Leftovers.gmi 
[15:12]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[15:15]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi 
[15:15]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[15:16]	TR News	Techrights Links 12/12/2023: Google Loses Major Case, Twitter (X) Invites Back Hate Preachers http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/12/Links_12_12_2023_Google_Loses_Major_Case_Twitter_X_Invites_Back.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/12/Links_12_12_2023_Google_Loses_Major_Case_Twitter_X_Invites_Back.gmi 
[15:16]	TR Bot	 Techrights Links 12/12/2023: Google Loses Major Case, Twitter (X) Invites Back Hate Preachers
[15:17]	TR News	"VMware is set to let go more than 360 staff members following the firm's recent acquisition by US semiconductor company, Broadcom." https://www.irishexaminer.com/business/companies/arid-41288746.html
[15:17]	TR Bot	 VMware to cut more than 360 Irish staff
[15:17]	TR News	Irish tech firms expect to lay off more staff than they hire in 2024, survey finds https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/irish-tech-firms-expect-to-lay-off-more-staff-than-they-hire-in-2024-survey-finds/a1068319592.html
[15:17]	TR Bot	tech firms expect to lay off more staff than they hire in 2024, survey finds | Independent.ie
[15:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[15:20]	TR News	Scientists Built a Functional Computer With Human Brain Tissue https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-built-a-functional-computer-with-human-brain-tissue
[15:20]	TR Bot	Built a Functional Computer With Human Brain Tissue : ScienceAlert
[15:20]	TR News	Most Night Shift Workers Have a Sleep Disorder, Study Confirms https://www.sciencealert.com/most-night-shift-workers-have-a-sleep-disorder-study-confirms
[15:20]	TR Bot	Night Shift Workers Have a Sleep Disorder, Study Confirms : ScienceAlert
[15:30]	TR News	December 12, 2023 10:57 AM<br /><br />
[15:30]	TR News	South Korean newlyweds have more debt than ever, report says https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/south-korean-newly-weds-have-more-debt-than-ever-report-says
[15:30]	TR Bot	 South Korean newlyweds have more debt than ever, report says | The Straits Times
[15:33]	TR News	Inside the decades-long fight over Yahoos misdeeds in China https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/12/12/1084990/yahoo-china-dissident-yahoo-human-rights-fund/
[15:33]	TR Bot	 Inside the decades-long fight over Yahoos misdeeds in China | MIT Technology Review
[15:34]	TR News	Banned in UK, China state broadcaster now running free video news agency https://pressgazette.co.uk/publishers/broadcast/cgtn-amsp-china-government-news-agency-free/
[15:34]	TR Bot	 Banned in UK, China state broadcaster now running free video news agency
[15:35]	TR News	Chinas manufacturing overcapacity threatens global green goods trade https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/econographics/chinas-manufacturing-overcapacity-threatens-global-green-goods-trade/
[15:35]	TR Bot	 China's manufacturing overcapacity threatens global green goods trade - Atlantic Council
[15:35]	TR News	cord cutting https://www.techdirt.com/2023/12/11/2023-the-year-cord-cutting-became-the-majority-norm/ | Source: Techdirt
[15:35]	TR Bot	The Year Cord Cutting Became The Majority Norm | Techdirt
[15:37]	TR News	Navalny https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/12/11/alexey-navalny-fails-to-appear-at-another-court-hearing-leaving-associates-unsure-of-his-whereabouts-for-sixth-day | Source: Meduza
[15:37]	TR Bot	 Alexey Navalny fails to appear at another court hearing, leaving associates unsure of his whereabouts for sixth day Meduza
[15:38]	TR News	"One of these inventions is Super Glue" https://hackaday.com/2023/12/11/tech-in-plain-sight-super-glue/ | Source: Hackaday
[15:38]	TR Bot	In Plain Sight: Super Glue | Hackaday
[15:41]	TR News	Taxi ranks in Helsinki have become territorial and violent, drivers say https://yle.fi/a/74-20064573
[15:41]	TR Bot	 Taxi ranks in Helsinki have become territorial and violent, drivers say | Yle News | Yle
[15:42]	TR News	Oracles stock slides as revenue and guidance come up short https://siliconangle.com/2023/12/11/oracles-stock-slides-revenue-guidance-come-short/
[15:42]	TR Bot	stock slides as revenue and guidance come up short - SiliconANGLE
[15:43]	TR News	Renovating the Garage https://kevquirk.com/renovating-the-garage
[15:43]	TR Bot	 Renovating the Garage | Kev Quirk
[15:43]	TR News	Regulator Ofcom proposes ban on unpredictable broadband and mobile mid-contract price rises after Which? campaign https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/regulator-proposes-ban-on-unpredictable-broadband-and-mobile-mid-contract-price-rises-a4hvp0J2IWua
[15:43]	TR Bot	 Regulator Ofcom proposes ban on unpredictable broadband and mobile mid-contract price rises after Which? campaign - Which? News
[15:44]	TR News	Half the price in Germany: French shoppers cross border to beat inflation https://www.france24.com/en/video/20231211-half-the-price-in-germany-french-shoppers-cross-border-to-beat-inflation
[15:44]	TR Bot	 Half the price in Germany: French shoppers cross border to beat inflation - France 24
[15:44]	TR News	Let's nominate our 2023 Qt Champions! https://www.qt.io/blog/lets-nominate-our-2023-qt-champions
[15:44]	TR Bot	 Let's nominate our 2023 Qt Champions!
[15:44]	TR News	Celebrating Success: Qt Academy x FYI https://www.qt.io/blog/celebrating-success-qt-academy-x-fyi
[15:44]	TR Bot	 Celebrating Success: Qt Academy x FYI
[15:47]	TR News	Major India hospital accused of organ trafficking https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/12/major-india-hospital-accused-of-organ-trafficking/
[15:47]	TR Bot	 Major India hospital accused of organ trafficking - JURIST - News
[15:51]	TR News	Banana Pi BPI-M4 Zero Allwinner H618 SBC follows Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W form factor https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/12/12/banana-pi-bpi-m4-zero-allwinner-h618-sbc-raspberry-pi-zero-2-w/
[15:51]	TR Bot	 Banana Pi BPI-M4 Zero Allwinner H618 SBC follows Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W form factor - CNX Software
[15:51]	TR News	Kdenlive 23.08.4 released https://kdenlive.org/en/2023/12/kdenlive-23-08-4-released/
[15:51]	TR Bot	 Kdenlive 23.08.4 released - Kdenlive
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[15:53]	TR News	"Free Speech Absolutist" https://www.techdirt.com/2023/12/11/free-speech-absolutist-elon-musk-is-also-libel-tourist-vexatious-slapper-elon-musk/ | Source: Techdirt
[15:53]	TR Bot	Speech Absolutist Elon Musk Is Also Libel Tourist, Vexatious SLAPPer Elon Musk | Techdirt
[15:53]	TR News	Freedom of speech that starts with listening https://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/the-monitors-view/2023/1211/Freedom-of-speech-that-starts-with-listening
[15:53]	TR Bot	of speech that starts with listening - CSMonitor.com
[15:53]	TR News	Making Techrights Stronger in 2024 https://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/12/Making_Techrights_Stronger_in_2024.shtml
[15:53]	TR Bot	 Techrights Making Techrights Stronger in 2024
[15:53]	TR News	Improving Site Navigation and Discovery https://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/12/Improving_Site_Navigation_and_Discovery.shtml
[15:53]	TR Bot	 Techrights Improving Site Navigation and Discovery
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[15:54]	TR News	Basilio and Richard Stallman https://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/12/Basilio_and_Richard_Stallman.shtml
[15:54]	TR Bot	 Techrights Basilio and Richard Stallman
[15:54]	TR News	Online Media as a Lying Machine of Abusive Monopolist Microsoft and Famous Criminal Bill Gates (and, As Usual, Follow the Money) https://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/11/Online_Media_as_a_Lying_Machine_of_Microsoft_and_Bill_Gates_and.shtml
[15:54]	TR Bot	 Techrights Online Media as a Lying Machine of Microsoft and Bill Gates (and, As Usual, Follow the Money)
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[15:54]	TR News	When is the use of a product a substantial noninfringing use for purposes of Section 271(c)? https://patentlyo.com/patent/2023/12/substantial-noninfringing-purposes.html
[15:54]	TR Bot	 When is the use of a product a substantial noninfringing use for purposes of Section 271(c)? | Patently-O
[15:55]	TR News	Unified Patent Court is a Kangaroo Court and illegal "court"; it disgraces the very legitimacy of the EY https://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2023/12/11/the-upc-is-dead-long-live-the-umc/
[15:55]	TR Bot	 The UPC is dead. Long live the UMC! - Kluwer Patent Blog
[15:56]	TR News	IPVal entity, eCeipt, electronic receipts patent monopoly reexam granted https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2023/12/8/ipval-entity-patent-asserted-against-dozens-of-retailers-challenged
[15:56]	TR Bot	 IPVal entity, eCeipt, electronic receipts patent reexam granted Unified Patents
[15:58]	TR News	Criminal Microsoft and Bardehle Pagenberg, which promotes crimes, as covered by JUVE, which actively lies to help criminals and establish fake "courts" https://www.juve-patent.com/cases/microsoft-and-bardehle-pagenberg-pull-back-win-in-zoe-life-infringement-dispute/
[15:58]	TR Bot	 Microsoft and Bardehle Pagenberg pull back win in Zoe Life infringement dispute - JUVE Patent
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[15:59]	TR News	Banksters trying to seem "hip" in this very corrupt nation https://eng.lsm.lv/article/economy/banks/11.12.2023-latvian-central-bank-produces-coin-for-dedicated-followers-of-fashion.a534969/
[15:59]	TR Bot	 Latvian central bank produces coin for dedicated followers of fashion / Article
[15:59]	TR News	Microflex MCUs Tiny USB development boards based on ESP32-S3, ESP32-S2, ESP32-C3, ESP32-C6, or Raspberry Pi RP2040 (Crowdfunding) https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/12/12/microflex-mcu-tiny-usb-development-boards-esp32-s3-esp32-s2-esp32-c3-esp32-c6-raspberry-pi-rp2040/
[15:59]	TR Bot	 Microflex MCUs - Tiny USB development boards based on ESP32-S3, ESP32-S2, ESP32-C3, ESP32-C6, or Raspberry Pi RP2040 (Crowdfunding) - CNX Software
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[16:00]	TR News	rakudo weekly 2023.50 More Magic https://rakudoweekly.blog/2023/12/11/2023-50-more-magic/
[16:00]	TR Bot	 2023.50 More Magic Rakudo Weekly News
[16:01]	TR News	Docker buys AtomicJar, the startup behind the popular open-source Testcontainers project https://siliconangle.com/2023/12/11/docker-buys-atomicjar-startup-behind-popular-open-source-testcontainers-project/
[16:01]	TR Bot	buys AtomicJar, the startup behind the popular open-source Testcontainers project - SiliconANGLE
[16:02]	TR News	Ruby 3.3.0-rc1 Released https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2023/12/11/ruby-3-3-0-rc1-released/
[16:02]	TR Bot	 Ruby 3.3.0-rc1 Released
[16:02]	TR News	That OSI model refuses to die https://blog.apnic.net/2023/12/12/that-osi-model-refuses-to-die/
[16:02]	TR Bot	 That OSI model refuses to die | APNIC Blog
[16:02]	TR News	The Rust Programming Language Blog: Cargo cache cleaning https://blog.rust-lang.org/2023/12/11/cargo-cache-cleaning.html
[16:02]	TR Bot	 Cargo cache cleaning | Rust Blog
[16:03]	TR News	How to Create a GPFS Filesystem on RHEL (Part-2) by I.C.B.M. https://www.2daygeek.com/create-gpfs-filesystem-in-rhel/
[16:03]	TR Bot	to Create a GPFS Filesystem on RHEL (Part-2) | 2DayGeek
[16:03]	TR News	Docker, Inc. Acquires AtomicJar to Add Testing Cloud Service https://cloudnativenow.com/topics/cloudnativedevelopment/docker-inc-acquires-atomicjar-to-add-testing-cloud-service/
[16:03]	TR Bot	 Docker, Inc. Acquires AtomicJar to Add Testing Cloud Service - Cloud Native Now
[16:04]	TR News	Section 702 Reform Bills https://www.techdirt.com/2023/12/11/house-committees-offer-up-competing-section-702-reform-bills-only-one-has-any-actual-reforms/ | Source: Techdirt
[16:04]	TR Bot	Committees Offer Up Competing Section 702 Reform Bills. Only One Has Any Actual Reforms. | Techdirt
[16:04]	TR News	Epic Games wins historic antitrust case against Surveillance Giant Google https://siliconangle.com/2023/12/11/epic-games-wins-historic-antitrust-case-google/
[16:04]	TR Bot	Games wins historic antitrust case against Google - SiliconANGLE
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[16:05]	TR News	Google Patches Chromecast Vulnerabilities Exploited at Hacking Contest https://www.securityweek.com/google-patches-chromecast-vulnerabilities-exploited-at-hacking-contest/
[16:05]	TR Bot	Patches Chromecast Vulnerabilities Exploited at Hacking Contest - SecurityWeek
[16:06]	TR News	North Korean Hackers Developing Malware in Dlang Programming Language https://www.securityweek.com/north-korean-hackers-developing-malware-in-dlang-programming-language/
[16:06]	TR Bot	Korean Hackers Developing Malware in Dlang Programming Language - SecurityWeek
[16:06]	TR News	Apache Patches Critical RCE Vulnerability in Struts 2 https://www.securityweek.com/apache-patches-critical-rce-vulnerability-in-struts-2/
[16:06]	TR Bot	Patches Critical RCE Vulnerability in Struts 2 - SecurityWeek
[16:06]	TR News	Google Loses Court Fight Over App Store With Makers of Fortnite https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/11/technology/epic-games-google-antitrust-ruling.html
[16:06]	TR Bot	 Google Loses Court Fight Over App Store With Makers of Fortnite - The New York Times
[16:07]	TR News	Fortnite's Epic Games wins US antitrust lawsuit against Surveillance Giant Google https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20231212-fortnite-s-epic-games-wins-us-antitrust-lawsuit-against-google
[16:07]	TR Bot	 Fortnite's Epic Games wins US antitrust lawsuit against Google
[16:08]	TR News	ORG is working for Islamists instead of towards its original goals https://www.openrightsgroup.org/press-releases/org-and-the-3million-win-in-court-again/
[16:08]	TR Bot	 ORG and the 3million win in court again | Open Rights Group
[16:09]	TR News	Imagining a million versus billion https://rubenerd.com/imagining-a-million-versus-billion/
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[16:09]	TR Bot	Imagining a million versus billion
[16:09]	TR News	The Fridge: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 817 https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2023/12/11/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-817/ https://ubuntu-news.org/2023/12/11/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-817/
[16:09]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 817
[16:09]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 817
[16:10]	TR News	Announcing the Charmed Kafka beta https://ubuntu.com//blog/charmed-kafka-beta
[16:10]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
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[16:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[16:20]	TR News	Techrights Canonical is Microsoft Marketing, Promoting Mass Surveillance as "Ubuntu confidential VMs" http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/12/Canonical_is_Microsoft_Marketing_Promoting_Mass_Surveillance_as.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/12/Canonical_is_Microsoft_Marketing_Promoting_Mass_Surveillance_as.gmi 
[16:20]	TR Bot	 Techrights Canonical is Microsoft Marketing, Promoting Mass Surveillance as "Ubuntu confidential VMs"
[16:21]	TR News	End of year review: Ubuntu Desktop in 2023 https://ubuntu.com//blog/end-of-year-review-ubuntu-desktop-in-2023
[16:21]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[16:22]	TR News	Akademy 2023 - Over a million reasons why Snaps are important. https://tube.kockatoo.org/w/87ihEWfMY48d4PhfCsqT5J
[16:22]	TR Bot	 Akademy 2023 - Over a million reasons why Snaps are important. - Kockatoo Tube
[16:23]	TR News	FSF Events: Free Software Directory meeting on IRC: Friday, December 15, starting at 12:00 EST (17:00 UTC) http://www.fsf.org/events/fsd-20231215-irc
[16:23]	TR Bot	 Free Software Directory meeting on IRC: Friday, December 15, starting at 12:00 EST (17:00 UTC) Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
[16:23]	TR News	FSF Blogs: Triple your donation! FSF matching challenge until December 14 http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/triple-your-donation-fsf-matching-challenge-until-december-14
[16:23]	TR Bot	 Triple your donation! FSF matching challenge until December 14 Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
[16:24]	TR News	Debian 12.4 Bookworm Released with 94 Bug Fixes and 65 Security Updates https://9to5linux.com/debian-12-4-bookworm-released-with-94-bug-fixes-and-65-security-updates
[16:24]	TR Bot	12.4 Bookworm Released with 94 Bug Fixes and 65 Security Updates - 9to5Linux
[16:24]	TR News	9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: December 10th, 2023 https://9to5linux.com/9to5linux-weekly-roundup-december-10th-2023
[16:24]	TR Bot	Weekly Roundup: December 10th, 2023 - 9to5Linux
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[16:24]	TR News	KDE Gear 23.08.4 Released as the Last Update in the Series https://9to5linux.com/kde-gear-23-08-4-released-as-the-last-update-in-the-series
[16:24]	TR Bot	Gear 23.08.4 Released as the Last Update in the Series - 9to5Linux
[16:25]	TR News	"Its also a small binary executable capable of running on six different operating systems: Linux, Windows, MacOS, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD." https://hackaday.com/2023/12/11/terminal-based-image-viewer-and-multi-os-binary-and-under-100kb/ | Source: Hackaday
[16:25]	TR Bot	Image Viewer, And Multi-OS Binary, And Under 100kb | Hackaday
[16:25]	TR News	OKdo CM3 SODIMM with up to 2GB RAM and optional Wi-Fi 4 support https://linuxgizmos.com/okdo-cm3-sodimm-with-up-to-2gb-ram-and-optional-wi-fi-4-support/
[16:25]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/okdo-cm3-sodimm-with-up-to-2gb-ram-and-optional-wi-fi-4-support/ )
[16:26]	TR News	Bored With Bash? Change the Default Shell in GNU/Linux https://itsfoss.com/linux-change-default-shell/
[16:26]	TR Bot	 How to Change the Default Shell in Linux?
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[16:27]	TR News	This could be the best GNU/Linux distro of the year (and it's not even close) https://www.zdnet.com/article/this-could-be-the-best-linux-distro-of-the-year-and-its-not-even-close/
[16:27]	TR Bot	could be the best Linux distro of the year (and it's not even close) | ZDNET
[16:28]	TR News	Linux Mint 21.3 Beta Available with Latest Version of Cinnamon http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Linux-Mint-21.3-Beta-Available-with-Latest-Version-of-Cinnamon
[16:29]	TR Bot	connection timeout ( status 0 @ https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/Linux-Mint-21.3-Beta-Available-with-Latest-Version-of-Cinnamon )
[16:29]	TR News	LinDoz 2023 Virtual Cam http://www.makululinux.com/wp/2023/12/11/lindoz-2023-virtual-cam/
[16:29]	TR Bot	2023 Virtual Cam MakuluLinux
[16:29]	TR News	Linux Mint 21.3 Beta a first look at what we can expect with Cinnamon 6.0 https://www.reallinuxuser.com/linux-mint-21-3-beta-a-first-look-at-what-we-can-expect-with-cinnamon-6-0/
[16:29]	TR Bot	 Linux Mint 21.3 Beta - a first look at what we can expect with Cinnamon 6.0 - Real Linux User
[16:29]	TR News	 (NEW):  Zorin OS 17 Beta Released with Quick Settings, Spatial Desktop, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/04/Zorin_OS_17_Beta_Released_with_Quick_Settings_Spatial_Desktop_a.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/04/Zorin_OS_17_Beta_Released_with_Quick_Settings_Spatial_Desktop_a.gmi 
[16:29]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Zorin OS 17 Beta Released with Quick Settings, Spatial Desktop, and More
[16:30]	TR News	5Ghoul Vulnerabilities Haunt Qualcomm, MediaTek 5G Modems https://www.securityweek.com/5ghoul-vulnerabilities-haunt-qualcomm-mediatek-5g-modems/
[16:30]	TR Bot	Vulnerabilities Haunt Qualcomm, MediaTek 5G Modems - SecurityWeek
[16:33]	TR News	OpenSSF Responds to the CISA RFC on Software Identification Ecosystem Analysis https://openssf.org/blog/2023/12/11/openssf-responds-to-the-cisa-rfc-on-software-identification-ecosystem-analysis/
[16:33]	TR Bot	 OpenSSF Responds to the CISA RFC on Software Identification Ecosystem Analysis - Open Source Security Foundation
[16:33]	TR News	North Korean hackers Lazarus Group takes new Telegram tactics https://siliconangle.com/2023/12/11/north-korean-hackers-lazarus-group-takes-new-telegram-tactics/
[16:33]	TR Bot	Korean hackers Lazarus Group takes new Telegram tactics - SiliconANGLE
[16:34]	TR News	Alleged Chinese cyberattacks target US power and water systems https://siliconangle.com/2023/12/11/alleged-chinese-cyber-attacks-target-us-power-water-systems/ Windows probably, as usual: http://techrights.org/n/2023/11/28/Media_Cannot_Tell_the_Difference_Between_Microsoft_and_Iran.shtml
[16:34]	TR Bot	Chinese cyberattacks target US power and water systems - SiliconANGLE
[16:34]	TR Bot	 Techrights Media Cannot Tell the Difference Between Microsoft and Iran
[16:35]	TR News	This is a Windows issue https://www.securityweek.com/top-white-house-cyber-aide-says-recent-iran-hack-on-water-wystem-is-call-to-tighten-cybersecurity/ http://techrights.org/n/2023/11/28/Media_Cannot_Tell_the_Difference_Between_Microsoft_and_Iran.shtml
[16:35]	TR Bot	White House Cyber Aide Says Recent Iran Hack on Water System Is Call to Tighten Cybersecurity - SecurityWeek
[16:36]	TR News	Flaws in Delta OT Monitoring Product Can Allow Hackers to Hide Destructive Activities https://www.securityweek.com/flaws-in-delta-ot-monitoring-product-can-allow-hackers-to-hide-destructive-activities/
[16:36]	TR Bot	in Delta OT Monitoring Product Can Allow Hackers to Hide Destructive Activities - SecurityWeek
[16:36]	TR News	Norton Healthcare Ransomware Hack: 2.5 Million Personal Records Stolen https://www.securityweek.com/norton-healthcare-ransomware-hack-2-5-million-personal-records-stolen/
[16:36]	TR Bot	Healthcare Ransomware Hack: 2.5 Million Personal Records Stolen - SecurityWeek
[16:38]	TR News	"t represents a major step forward with some significant changes." https://hackaday.com/2023/12/11/raspberry-pi-changes-hats/ | Source: Hackaday
[16:38]	TR Bot	Pi Changes HATs | Hackaday
[16:38]	TR News	Macro DLP mirror array scales up a fascinating mechanical structure https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/12/11/macro-dlp-mirror-array-scales-up-a-fascinating-mechanical-structure/
[16:38]	TR Bot	 Macro DLP mirror array scales up a fascinating mechanical structure | Arduino Blog
[16:39]	TR News	Jonathan Dowland: Talks: why? https://jmtd.net/log/talks/
[16:39]	TR Bot	 jmtd log Talks: why?
[16:40]	TR News	Vietnamese man gets 8 years for Facebook (Farcebook) posts https://www.rfa.org/english/news/vietnam/facebook-12112023155215.html
[16:40]	TR Bot	 Vietnamese man gets 8 years for Facebook posts Radio Free Asia
[16:41]	TR News	TTAB Finds "4:20" Deceptively Misdescriptive of Tobacco and Cigarette-Related Products Not Containing or Used With Cannabis http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2023/12/ttab-finds-420-deceptively.html
[16:41]	TR Bot	 The TTABlog: TTAB Finds "4:20" Deceptively Misdescriptive of Tobacco and Cigarette-Related Products Not Containing or Used With Cannabis
[16:41]	TR News	Rogue parking ads still rife on Google, warns Which? https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/rogue-parking-ads-still-rife-on-google-warns-which-aVUyY5u6HStz
[16:41]	TR Bot	 Rogue parking ads still rife on Google, warns Which? - Which? News
[16:42]	TR News	Microsoft, Proprietary Chaffbot Company tie-up comes under antitrust scrutiny https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-antitrust-regulator-considering-microsoft-openai-partnership-2023-12-08/
[16:42]	TR Bot	OpenAI tie-up comes under antitrust scrutiny | Reuters
[16:42]	TR News	Intercepting MFA. Phishing and Adversary in The Middle attacks https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/intercepting-mfa-phishing-and-attackers-in-the-middle/
[16:42]	TR Bot	 Intercepting MFA. Phishing and Adversary in The Middle attacks | Pen Test Partners
[16:43]	TR News	Introducing KDDockWidgets 2.0 https://www.kdab.com/introducing-kddockwidgets-2-0/
[16:43]	TR Bot	KDDockWidgets 2.0 - KDAB
[16:43]	TR News	The Power Vacuum at the Top of the Crypto [sic] Industry [sic] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/11/technology/crypto-industry-power-vacuum.html http://techrights.org/o/2023/06/18/no-such-thing-as-cryptocurrency/
[16:43]	TR Bot	 The Power Vacuum at the Top of the Crypto Industry - The New York Times
[16:43]	TR Bot	 There is No Such Thing as 'Cryptocurrency' and Please Stop Referring to It as Cryptocurrency
[16:44]	TR News	Data breaches reach all-time high, according to a new report from MIT https://siliconangle.com/2023/12/11/data-breaches-time-high-according-new-report-mit/
[16:44]	TR Bot	breaches reach all-time high, according to a new report from MIT - SiliconANGLE
[16:44]	TR News	Apple Ships iOS 17.2 With Urgent Security Patches https://www.securityweek.com/apple-ships-ios-17-2-with-urgent-security-patches/
[16:44]	TR Bot	Ships iOS 17.2 With Urgent Security Patches - SecurityWeek
[16:46]	TR News	STMicro VD55G1 A small, low-power global shutter I3C camera sensor for computer vision https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/12/12/stmicro-vd55g1-small-low-power-global-shutter-i3c-camera-sensor-for-computer-vision/
[16:46]	TR Bot	 STMicro VD55G1 - A small, low-power global shutter I3C camera sensor for computer vision - CNX Software
[16:47]	TR News	SMB shares using OmniOS, zones and ZFS https://www.tumfatig.net/2023/smb-shares-using-omnios-zones-and-zfs/
[16:47]	TR Bot	 TuM'Fatig - SMB shares using OmniOS, zones and ZFS
[16:48]	TR News	What is sitemap.xml, and Why a Pentester Should Care, (Mon, Dec 11th) https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/30472
[16:49]	TR Bot	 What is sitemap.xml, and Why a Pentester Should Care - SANS Internet Storm Center
[16:49]	TR News	Apple Patches Everything, (Mon, Dec 11th) https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/30474
[16:49]	TR Bot	 Apple Patches Everything - SANS Internet Storm Center
[16:49]	TR News	GStreamer: New GStreamer Matrix chat space https://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/news/#2023-12-12T09:30 :00Z
[16:49]	TR Bot	 GStreamer: news
[16:50]	TR News	State of the Word 2023 Recap https://wordpress.org/news/2023/12/state-of-the-word-2023-recap/
[16:50]	TR Bot	 State of the Word 2023 Recap WordPress News
[16:50]	TR News	Post-mortem: Backend Overload https://openbuildservice.org/2023/12/11/post-mortem//
[16:50]	TR Bot	 Severe Service Degradation: OBS Unavailable - Open Build Service
[16:51]	TR News	Severe Service Degradation: OBS Unavailable https://openbuildservice.org/2023/12/11/post-mortem//
[16:52]	TR News	When Should Security Clearance Be Denied Based on Interest in QAnon and Three Percenters? https://reason.com/volokh/2023/12/11/when-should-security-clearance-be-denied-based-on-interest-in-qanon-and-three-percenters/
[16:52]	TR Bot	 When Should Security Clearance Be Denied Based on Interest in QAnon and Three Percenters?
[16:52]	TR News	After Resisting Demands To Punish 'Hate Speech,' Penn's President Capitulated. It Did Not Save Her Job. https://reason.com/2023/12/11/after-resisting-demands-to-punish-hate-speech-penns-president-capitulated-it-did-not-save-her-job/
[16:52]	TR Bot	 After Resisting Demands To Punish 'Hate Speech,' Penn's President Capitulated. It Did Not Save Her Job.
[16:53]	TR News	'Eyes Everywhere': Congress Is About to Vote to Expand Mass Surveillance of Americans, Experts Warn https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qjvmpv/eyes-everywhere-congress-is-about-to-vote-to-expand-mass-surveillance-of-americans-experts-warn
[16:53]	TR Bot	 'Eyes Everywhere': Congress Is About to Vote to Expand Mass Surveillance of Americans, Experts Warn
[16:54]	TR News	wyden https://www.techdirt.com/2023/12/11/letter-from-sen-wyden-to-the-doj-says-governments-are-gathering-push-notification-data-from-google-apple/ | Source: Techdirt
[16:54]	TR Bot	From Sen. Wyden To The DOJ Says Governments Are Gathering Push Notification Data From Google, Apple | Techdirt
[16:54]	TR News	"commitment to walled gardens and Apples bottom line, rather than the privacy of Apples users." https://www.techdirt.com/2023/12/11/apples-nonsensical-attack-on-beeper-for-making-apples-own-users-safer/ | Source: Techdirt
[16:54]	TR Bot	Nonsensical Attack On Beeper For Making Apples Own Users Safer | Techdirt
[16:54]	TR News	No metro, tram or commuter trains: Looming transport strike likely to hit Helsinki region https://yle.fi/a/74-20064324
[16:54]	TR Bot	 No metro, tram or commuter trains: Looming transport strike likely to hit Helsinki region | Yle News | Yle
[16:54]	TR News	Transport strike on Thursday to affect all big cities https://yle.fi/a/74-20064555
[16:54]	TR Bot	 Transport strike on Thursday to affect all big cities | Yle News | Yle
[16:55]	TR News	Bangkok MRT monorail open to passengers https://rubenerd.com/bangkok-mrt-monorail-open-to-passengers/
[16:55]	TR Bot	Bangkok MRT monorail open to passengers
[16:56]	TR News	LFCS - Installing and Managing Apache Web Server https://www.linux.org/threads/lfcs-installing-and-managing-apache-web-server.46236/
[16:56]	TR Bot	- Installing and Managing Apache Web Server | Linux.org
[16:56]	TR News	How To Install and Use the Cockpit GNU/Linux Management Console https://www.itprotoday.com/linux/how-install-and-use-cockpit-linux-management-console
[16:56]	TR Bot	 How To Install and Use the Cockpit Linux Management Console | ITPro Today: IT News, How-Tos, Trends, Case Studies, Career Tips, More
[16:56]	TR News	Step-by-step CPU overclocking in Ubuntu using cpupower https://www.fosslinux.com/135018/step-by-step-cpu-overclocking-in-ubuntu-using-cpupower.htm
[16:56]	TR Bot	 Step-by-Step CPU Overclocking in Ubuntu Using Cpupower
[16:57]	TR News	Debian 12.4 Released, Superseding Debian 12.3 Amid File System Concerns https://linuxiac.com/debian-12-4-released/
[16:57]	TR Bot	 Debian 12.4 Released, Superseding Debian 12.3 Amid File System Concerns
[16:57]	TR News	Pamac Now Supports Libadwaita and Fully Adapts to GNOME 45 https://linuxiac.com/pamac-now-supports-libadwaita-and-fully-adapts-to-gnome-45/
[16:57]	TR Bot	 Pamac Now Supports Libadwaita and Fully Adapts to GNOME 45
[16:57]	TR News	Master VLC with These 10+ Expert Tips and Tricks https://linuxtldr.com/tips-and-tricks-for-vlc/
[16:57]	TR Bot	 Master VLC with These 10+ Expert Tips and Tricks
[16:58]	TR News	How to Create Permanent Bookmarks in VLC Without a Playlist https://linuxtldr.com/create-permanent-bookmarks-in-vlc/
[16:58]	TR Bot	 How to Create Permanent Bookmarks in VLC Without a Playlist
[16:58]	TR News	trademarks again https://www.techdirt.com/2023/12/11/brew-works-rude-elfs-reserve-how-ip-bullying-birthed-the-brand-that-remains-20-years-later/ | Source: Techdirt
[16:58]	TR Bot	Works Rude Elfs Reserve: How IP Bullying Birthed The Brand That Remains 20 Years Later | Techdirt
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[16:59]	TR News	The FTCs Misguided Comments on Copyright Office Generative Hey Hi (AI) Questions https://patentlyo.com/patent/2023/12/misguided-copyright-generative.html
[16:59]	TR Bot	 The FTCs Misguided Comments on Copyright Office Generative AI Questions | Patently-O
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[17:01]	TR News	"car owners have subprime loans" https://www.propublica.org/getinvolved/help-propublica-investigate-the-world-of-subprime-car-loans | Source: Pro Publica
[17:01]	TR Bot	 Help ProPublica Investigate the World of Subprime Car Loans ProPublica
[17:02]	TR News	11 Best GNU/Linux Distributions for Power Users https://www.tecmint.com/linux-distro-for-power-users/
[17:02]	TR Bot	 11 Best Linux Distributions for Power Users in 2024
[17:03]	TR News	Reading notes on The Pragmatic Programmer by David Thomas and Andrew Hunt https://www.r-bloggers.com/2023/12/reading-notes-on-the-pragmatic-programmer-by-david-thomas-and-andrew-hunt/
[17:03]	TR Bot	notes on The Pragmatic Programmer by David Thomas and Andrew Hunt | R-bloggers
[17:04]	TR News	A new kselftest for verifying driver probe of Devicetree-based platforms https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2023/12/11/a-new-kselftest-for-verifying-driver-probe-of-devicetree-based-platforms/
[17:04]	TR Bot	 A new kselftest for verifying driver probe of Devicetree-based platforms
[17:04]	TR News	Overview of Synology DiskStation Manager (DSM) 7.2.1 https://www.linuxlinks.com/synology-diskstation-manager/
[17:04]	TR Bot	of Synology DiskStation Manager (DSM) 7.2.1 - LinuxLinks
[17:05]	TR News	Linux Format 310 https://linuxformat.com/linux-format-310.html
[17:05]	TR Bot	 Linux Format 310
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[17:08]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
[17:09]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today's HowTos   http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/today_s_howtos.1.gmi 
[17:09]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[17:12]	TR News	 (NEW):  Canonical/Ubuntu: Weekly Newsletter, Charmed Kafka, and Ubuntu Desktop in 2023 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Canonical_Ubuntu_Weekly_Newsletter_Charmed_Kafka_and_Ubuntu_Des.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Canonical_Ubuntu_Weekly_Newsletter_Charmed_Kafka_and_Ubuntu_Des.gmi 
[17:12]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Canonical/Ubuntu: Weekly Newsletter, Charmed Kafka, and Ubuntu Desktop in 2023
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[17:12]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines New Akademy 2023 and LinDoz 2023 Videos
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[17:13]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Open Hardware and Linux Devices
[17:15]	TR News	 (NEW):   Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi 
[17:15]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[17:18]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/today_s_leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/today_s_leftovers.2.gmi 
[17:18]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[17:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[17:22]	TR News	Techrights Links 12/12/2023: VMware Layoffs and Hostilities in South China Sea http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/12/Links_12_12_2023_VMware_Layoffs_and_Hostilities_in_South_China_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/12/Links_12_12_2023_VMware_Layoffs_and_Hostilities_in_South_China_.gmi 
[17:22]	TR Bot	 Techrights Links 12/12/2023: VMware Layoffs and Hostilities in South China Sea
[17:29]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/11/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/11/Today_in_Techrights.gmi 
[17:29]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Today in Techrights
[17:29]	TR News	 (NEW):  Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Today_in_Techrights.gmi 
[17:29]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Today in Techrights
[17:32]	TR News	Techrights Over at Tux Machines... http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/12/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/12/Over_at_Tux_Machines.gmi 
[17:32]	TR Bot	 Techrights Over at Tux Machines...
[17:45]	TR News	 (NEW):  Lubuntu 24.04 LTS Plans for Snap-Free Minimal Option http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Lubuntu_24_04_LTS_Plans_for_Snap_Free_Minimal_Option.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/12/12/Lubuntu_24_04_LTS_Plans_for_Snap_Free_Minimal_Option.gmi 
[17:45]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Lubuntu 24.04 LTS Plans for Snap-Free Minimal Option
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[18:21]	jrmu	schestowitz: do you have any bad news about lua? It has some traction in the commercial world but is not FAAMG sponsored as far as I'm aware
[18:53]	jrmu	DaemonFC: are you the Ryan in https://techrights.org/o/2021/11/20/splc-censorship-regime/ ? I think the blog is from baronhk
[18:53]	TR Bot	 Tor Browser Launcher on Debian is Broken and SPLC Censorship Regime Hates Tor and FOSS, Boosts Bill Gates
[18:57]	ZedHedTed	lua is used for scripting in mpv. makes it extensible. i don't think it's worth it to learn lua just for mpv though.
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[19:01]	admfubar	https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/12/squeezing-science-out-of-new-horizons-as-it-heads-out-of-the-solar-system/
[19:01]	TR Bot	 Deep into the Kuiper Belt, New Horizons is still doing science | Ars Technica
[19:05]	admfubar	https://arstechnica.com/?p=1990254
[19:05]	TR Bot	 The growing abuse of QR codes in malware and payment scams prompts FTC warning | Ars Technica
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[19:06]	admfubar	your plastic pals that are fun to be with... https://arstechnica.com/?p=1990151
[19:06]	TR Bot	 As ChatGPT gets lazy, people test winter break hypothesis as the cause | Ars Technica
[19:08]	admfubar	https://www.ghacks.net/2023/12/12/newpipe-0-25-2-adds-youtube-video-multi-audio-track-support/
[19:08]	TR Bot	 NewPipe 0.25.2 adds YouTube Video multi-audio track support - gHacks Tech News
[19:09]	admfubar	https://www.ghacks.net/2023/12/12/google-has-illegal-app-store-monopoly-says-jury-in-epic-case/
[19:09]	TR Bot	 Google has illegal app store monopoly says jury in Epic case - gHacks Tech News
[19:10]	admfubar	down for the count?? https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2023/12/google-loses-on-every-count-in-antitrust-suit-by-epic-games.html
[19:10]	TR Bot	 Google Loses on Every Count in Play Store Antitrust Suit by Epic Games | naked capitalism
[19:12]	admfubar	https://metro.co.uk/2023/12/12/amazon-selling-creepy-hidden-spy-cameras-disguised-boring-home-accessory-19961314/
[19:12]	TR Bot	 Amazon selling hidden spy cameras disguised as boring home accessory | Tech News | Metro News
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[19:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[19:27]	admfubar	is there any other kind?... https://techxplore.com/news/2023-12-australian-american-crypto-ponzi-scheme.html
[19:27]	TR Bot	 Australian, American charged with running crypto Ponzi scheme
[19:28]	admfubar	this does explain a lot about billionaires...  https://techxplore.com/news/2023-12-artificial-intelligence-excel-imitation.html
[19:28]	TR Bot	 Artificial intelligence systems found to excel at imitation, but not innovation
[19:29]	admfubar	O_o  https://techxplore.com/news/2023-12-brain-tissue-chip-voice-recognition.html
[19:29]	TR Bot	 Brain tissue on a chip achieves voice recognition
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[21:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[22:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[23:00]	admfubar	https://invidious.private.coffee/watch?v=Xw1C5T-fH2Y
[23:00]	TR Bot	 Sad Dog Diary - Invidious
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[23:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-11.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-12-12.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[23:21]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/retro-gaming-memes-11.png
[23:41]	schestowitz	<jrmu> schestowitz: do you have any bad news about lua? It has some traction in the commercial world but is not FAAMG sponsored as far as I'm aware
[23:41]	schestowitz	not that i noticed
[23:43]	TR News	"Fossil fuel exporting nations won't accept (for good reason, from their perspective) any language in the agreements that includes the phrase "phase out" in relation to fossil fuels." gemini://jdcard.com/blog/2023-12-12T12-26.gmi
[23:44]	TR News	"So, I came across this Simon Michaux guy on YouTube yesterday. He is a geologist and claims that the energy transition is doomed to fail because of the lack of (rare earth) metals." gemini://gemini.clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2023/12-13-be-aware-of-energy-transition-doom-proficy.gmi
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[23:50]	TR News	Hasbro laying off over 20% of employees due to low toy sales https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/hasbro-laying-off-employees-low-toy-sales
[23:50]	TR Bot	 Hasbro laying off over 20% of employees due to low toy sales | Washington Examiner
[23:50]	TR News	An Estimated 9,000 Employees in the Video Game Industry Have Been Laid Off in 2023 - News https://www.vgchartz.com/article/459362/an-estimated-9000-employees-in-the-video-game-industry-have-been-laid-off-in-2023/
[23:50]	TR Bot	 An Estimated 9,000 Employees in the Video Game Industry Have Been Laid Off in 2023
[23:58]	TR News	Techrights More Microsoft Azure Layoffs This Winter, Software Quality Questioned by Insiders http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/12/12/More_Microsoft_Azure_Layoffs_This_Winter_Software_Quality_Quest.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/12/12/More_Microsoft_Azure_Layoffs_This_Winter_Software_Quality_Quest.gmi 
[23:58]	TR Bot	 Techrights More Microsoft Azure Layoffs This Winter, Software Quality Questioned by Insiders