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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/2003132May 13 00:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4429540)May 13 00:18
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Robotic Open Source Puppy Needs A Home http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137529 [https://pleroma.site/objects/79fe701d-f0bb-4eff-a8a0-df72d580520f]May 13 00:21
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20031227May 13 00:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4427525)May 13 00:35
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Pop!_OS 20.04 Review: Best Ubuntu based Linux Distribution http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137531 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d196437d-19a8-48f8-be78-3f3826c7f3d2]May 13 00:39
schestowitzMinceR: what is that anyway?May 13 00:41
XRevan86schestowitz: Bart Simpson, a bart-ender punMay 13 00:41
DaemonFC[m]I express mailed my lawyer my filing fee and her fee for the bankruptcy.May 13 00:42
XRevan86and Kennedy's assassinationMay 13 00:42
DaemonFC[m]She said she'll call me as soon as the checks arrive and we'll go over the checklist and schedule my first credit counseling session.May 13 00:42
DaemonFC[m]<MinceR "i always wanted to own a device "> An active volcano?May 13 00:43
MinceRa heaterMay 13 00:44
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cubexyzaverage size of email is 75K which is a bit ridiculousMay 13 00:55
MinceRindeedMay 13 00:55
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superkuhNot my emails. My own client, my own server, minimal required headers, only text.May 13 00:58
cubexyzlet me do a quick calculation on mineMay 13 00:59
cubexyzabout 35K per email on the incoming stuffMay 13 01:00
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python Programming http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137533 [https://pleroma.site/objects/268d06fd-7705-4b31-a049-0e2384852a0d]May 13 01:04
kingoffranceyes, that is how america works: your private credit is always perfect for x generations when it comes to bonds, you are always pre-approved to be on the hook.   when you go to a bank however, you have to meet their private scores and noone is worthy.   infinitely schizophrenic/parasitic.     theres the same middle men in both equations of course, playing both "sides" (everyone else) against eachotherMay 13 01:11
kingoffranceeveryones credit is perfect so long as you have no say where it goesMay 13 01:12
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: VirtuaVerse, Humble Indie Bundle and Valheim http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137534 [https://pleroma.site/objects/31db48c6-1ef4-4cfc-9349-bea3cdcd5442]May 13 01:21
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Collabora Online, LibreOffice and SoftMaker's Office http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137537 [https://pleroma.site/objects/42eaca9c-9db9-4a81-a1a1-cff2bb46a8a1]May 13 02:11
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Eclipse Foundation Moving to Brussels and Milinkovich Explains Eclipse Theia http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137539 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a1848fb6-9df3-4908-adcf-22b879949853]May 13 02:40
schestowitz[00:55] <cubexyz> average size of email is 75K which is a bit ridiculousMay 13 03:07
schestowitzurl for this?May 13 03:07
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DaemonFC[m]HTML formatting I guess.May 13 03:20
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Initial AMD Ryzen 7 4700U Linux Performance Is Very Good http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137541 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9e24508d-cd14-46a6-89dc-49e2874cfbb1]May 13 03:21
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audio and Screencasts: Linux in the Ham Shack, EndeavourOS 2020.05.08 and Kubuntu 20.04 LTS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137543 [https://pleroma.site/objects/732144b6-3a84-4893-9f98-abf21cc1e95f]May 13 03:34
DaemonFC[m]The standard Brita filters do a great job on that chlorine and wet dog taste on Waukegan water.May 13 03:35
MinceRthey don't seem to put so much chlorine in the tap water here anymore, which is niceMay 13 03:36
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: WireGuard for OpenBSD and OpenZFS 0.8.4 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137544 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4f7abc58-c8ee-4cc9-ab4b-1348c1788cc8]May 13 03:36
DaemonFC[m]I got some N95 masks and I've been wearing surgical masks on top.May 13 03:43
MinceRwhy?May 13 03:43
DaemonFC[m]Illinois has a mask law now because of the virus.May 13 03:44
MinceRsure, but what does the surgical mask help if you already have the N95?May 13 03:45
MinceRthough i guess if it reaches wider it might help seal at the edgesMay 13 03:45
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, the surgical masks are wider than the edges on the N95.May 13 03:47
DaemonFC[m]I figure it might help.May 13 03:47
DaemonFC[m]I have Mandy doing it too at work.May 13 03:47
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in ZDNet ‘Linux’: Linux is Not Secure and You Should Use Microsoft Proprietary Software With Spying and EULA techrights.org/2020/05/12/linux-at-zdnet/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/58106411-7ff4-4b7f-9dbe-a65245ad5cf3]May 13 03:48
DaemonFC[m]We may have had it already but alao might have just been the flu.May 13 03:48
DaemonFC[m]Late February.May 13 03:48
MinceRit can't be pleasant trying to breathe through 2 masks thoughMay 13 03:48
DaemonFC[m]It's actually more pleasant than just a surgical mask.May 13 03:49
DaemonFC[m]That steams up my glasses.May 13 03:49
MinceR:)May 13 03:50
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: you have to watch surgical masks.   Some have a N95 rating some don't.    The difference is if they are designed to protect when you breath in or not.May 13 04:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1260237285603278851May 13 04:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Yet Another Revolving Door https://t.co/LklncWxhJRMay 13 04:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.politico.eu | Watchdog slams EU agency for letting boss join lobby group – POLITICOMay 13 04:19
schestowitzwow, two in a week, zoobabMay 13 04:19
oiaohmN95 is a fun rating is for what you breath in not what you breath out.   This is why a N95 mask is allowed breath out air release valve.   Surgical mask standards when they have standard is the inverse as in for what you breath out not what you breath in.May 13 04:21
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oiaohmSo really to protect yourself and everyone else you are looking for a mask that has N95 and surgical mask rating.May 13 04:35
oiaohmthis is what caused in case of covid-19 the mask suppies to be stripped of the cheaper valveless N95.May 13 04:36
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superkuhI have lots of N95 with the valves I bought in 2006. It's very simple to just tape the valve closed.May 13 04:42
superkuhIn the case where you had a family member that was sick in your living space, etc.May 13 04:43
superkuhFor going out valves are better.May 13 04:43
superkuhThey block just as much as *any* cloth mask because cloth masks have giant holes on the edges and only really prevent spray of large spittle.May 13 04:44
superkuhA valved N95 probably protects others just as much as a cloth mask. Which is to say a marginal bit.May 13 04:45
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 13/5/2020: Proxmox VE 6.2, FlightGear 2020.1, Kali Linux 2020.2, Coreboot 4.12 Released http://techrights.org/2020/05/12/kali-linux-2020-2-released/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/3b991b81-1f19-4a34-9eb7-5f4b9e84dd53]May 13 05:00
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schestowitz>         #stallmanwasrightMay 13 07:11
schestowitz> May 13 07:11
schestowitz> Please, no GitHubMay 13 07:11
schestowitz> May 13 07:11
schestowitz> From: Richard StallmanMay 13 07:11
schestowitz> Subject: Please, no GitHubMay 13 07:11
schestowitz> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 16:21:09 -0500May 13 07:11
schestowitz> May 13 07:11
schestowitz>> GitHub does things that are quite bad for free software and isMay 13 07:11
schestowitz>> not interested in changing them.  > If you want to move off Savannah, please pick some other place.May 13 07:11
schestowitz>>May 13 07:11
schestowitz>>May 13 07:11
schestowitz>> The reason that attending to user requests for Savannah is slow is that there are not enough volunteers doing it.  Would someone like to volunteer to help run Savannah?  Can you find someone else who would like to do this?May 13 07:11
schestowitz>>May 13 07:11
schestowitz>>May 13 07:11
schestowitz>>May 13 07:11
schestowitz>> –May 13 07:11
schestowitz>> Dr Richard StallmanMay 13 07:11
schestowitz>> President, Free Software Foundation>  (gnu.org, fsf.org)May 13 07:11
schestowitz>>May 13 07:11
schestowitzGood find!May 13 07:11
Hail_Spacecakethere's gitlab, gitea, etc.May 13 07:37
kingoffrancethats very reasonable "not interested in changing them" "please pick some other place"May 13 07:39
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schestowitzHail_Spacecake: two pointsMay 13 08:36
schestowitzgitlab was using azure until the buyoutMay 13 08:36
schestowitzgitea has spoken for 2 years about deleting github, but has not done so yet, even when Microsoft took overMay 13 08:36
schestowitzso you kind of have to wonder or wait and seeMay 13 08:37
schestowitzgit is still gitMay 13 08:37
schestowitzbut the people who lead the project now are too close to github and sometimes link to Microsoft's blog posts as if Microsoft partly 'owns' the projectMay 13 08:37
schestowitzfor me, no git for now... or only very minimalMay 13 08:37
schestowitzmaybe something better will come along soon, like svn came to replace cvsMay 13 08:38
schestowitzwe actually studied and used cvs back in the daysMay 13 08:38
schestowitzthen I studied svnMay 13 08:38
schestowitznow gitMay 13 08:38
schestowitzand they keep pushing us to learn and relearn and retrainMay 13 08:38
schestowitzI'm frankly tired of it and we don't use GUI tools, they're not so portable and expressiveMay 13 08:38
*schestowitz would not want to become overly tied to and reliant on Linux (kernel) eitherMay 13 08:39
Hail_Spacecakeyou can self-host gitlabMay 13 08:53
Hail_Spacecakealso giteaMay 13 08:53
Hail_Spacecakewhich is what I assume gnu would be doingMay 13 08:53
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schestowitzHail_Spacecake: yesMay 13 09:44
schestowitzfsf mightMay 13 09:44
obarunit took me a while to realize the existence of an IRC techrights channel :pMay 13 09:45
obarunbetter late than neverMay 13 09:46
schestowitz0/May 13 09:51
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kingoffranceis your nick a reference to oboron :)May 13 09:57
kingoffrancelike internet exploder or nutscrape, obarun ?May 13 09:58
obarunnope, obarun linux distributionMay 13 10:01
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liberty_boxhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52641807May 13 10:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | UK economy shrinks at fastest pace since financial crisis - BBC NewsMay 13 10:31
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liberty_boxhttps://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1274394/canada-zoo-to-send-pandas-home-after-bamboo-shortageMay 13 10:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newsinfo.inquirer.net | Canada zoo to send pandas home after bamboo shortage | Inquirer NewsMay 13 10:55
liberty_boxhttps://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1274359/wuhan-to-test-all-residents-after-handful-of-new-infectionsMay 13 10:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-newsinfo.inquirer.net | Wuhan to test all residents after handful of new infections | Inquirer NewsMay 13 10:59
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MinceRhttps://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2013/05/26May 13 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pearls Before Swine by Stephan Pastis for May 26, 2013 - GoComicsMay 13 13:03
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oiaohmschestowitz: gpl compliance with a kernel is still along way from upstreaming  code for proper peer review.May 13 19:38
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DaemonFC[m]I was looking on Amazon.May 13 20:16
DaemonFC[m]They sell "water purification sticks" which are basically just charred wood that's been rendered into active charcoal, it seems.May 13 20:16
DaemonFC[m]I can't imagine that these do a better job than a Brita and they work out to $5 per stick to drop in a water pitcher, and they're apparently spent after two liters.May 13 20:17
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DaemonFC[m]A Brita is good for 40 gallons, which is 151 liters and some change. Those are about $4.16 each in packs of 6.May 13 20:17
DaemonFC[m]Are the water purification sticks just something stupid for dirty hippies so they can be liberated from their money?May 13 20:18
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: https://www.amazon.com.au/IPPINKA-Portable-Binchotan-Purifying-Personal-Sized/dp/B07749RD8S   You are refering to stuff like this.May 13 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IPPINKA Portable Kishu Binchotan Charcoal Water Purifying Sticks, Set of 2 Sticks, Filters Personal-Sized Water Bottles: Amazon.com.au: Home ImprovementMay 13 20:29
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: they are a little different to the Brita.   Each Brita has a functional life of about 4 weeks once open to be safe.   Active Charcoal sticks are a very traditional thing they can be put in water boilled throw the boilled water away and they are basically cleaned for reuse.May 13 20:34
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: so each stick over it live span can do way more than 151 liters of water.May 13 20:35
oiaohmJust the cleaning process in the middle is a pain in the ass.May 13 20:35
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DaemonFC[m]So boiling it makes all the crap that it soaked up come out?May 13 21:32
DaemonFC[m]oiaohm: Any point in using these sticks as a permanent floater in my refrigerator water jug?May 13 21:35
DaemonFC[m]I keep a 3 gallon jug of water in there after I run it through my Brita.May 13 21:36
DaemonFC[m]I suppose they'd probably sit there and keep sponging up anything that made it past the quick run through the Brita.May 13 21:36
DaemonFC[m]Why is there a charcoal water stick in amazon warehouse deals as used - like new?May 13 21:44
DaemonFC[m]oiaohm: I just bought one for $20 that says you can put it in a 3-5 gallon water container.May 13 21:52
DaemonFC[m]I have a 3 gallon container in the fridge. I'll just keep using my Brita and then pour it in there with the charcoal stick and let it sit in there all the time.May 13 21:52
DaemonFC[m]The Brita filters probably at least do most of the heavy lifting and make the stick last longer.May 13 21:53
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DaemonFC[m]The stick is supposed to last about 3 months.May 13 22:03
DaemonFC[m]I'm betting by using Brita first, the stick probably lasts about 9-10 months.May 13 22:04
DaemonFC[m]Maybe longer.May 13 22:04
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: yes boiling those sticks make the crap they have soaked up be released so they can take up more.   Usage of these sticks correctly is normally not refrigerated water.May 13 22:14
oiaohmPlease note these sticks are not what you call fast acting either.  Absorbs impurities from water, resulting in pure, great tasting water (filtering time for 3-5 gallons of water is 9-10 hours) May 13 22:15
oiaohmAnd that is for the large one.May 13 22:15
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: PS that size of the large one is matched to how much water goes in a jerry can.May 13 22:17
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: Lot of ways I prefer the Brita like stuff as it has the processed watter and the unprocessed water split.May 13 22:19
oiaohmAs I said they are tradiational.   They have their usages for like transporting water and reducing taint in transport.May 13 22:20
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, but it's in the fridge overnight for 8 hours between uses.May 13 22:23
DaemonFC[m]That gives the stick plenty of time to soak up quite a bit just overnight, aside from being in the fridge in general.May 13 22:24
DaemonFC[m]I'd be using it more as a finishing touch on the stuff that went through the Brita already.May 13 22:24
oiaohmFor transporting water the different form active carbon sticks you can drop into the transport containers they are useful.   Like a water container connected to a truck or something for emergey water.May 13 22:28
oiaohmBut for your general home water treatment not so much.May 13 22:28
oiaohmParticularly the requirement to boil them to clean them every so often.May 13 22:28
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: big reason why I know about active carbon sticks is using therm in rural on water containers on truck and 4 wheelers mostly stopped the algue growth problems in those tanks.May 13 22:30
oiaohmtanks/bottles.May 13 22:30
oiaohmThe water was safe to drink just not what you call highly pure.May 13 22:31
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: please note if water is not trustable source I am going to use proper filter over carbon sticks.  I will say they are currently well over priced for what they are and how they should be used.May 13 22:36
DaemonFC[m]My grandmother had horrible water.May 13 22:37
DaemonFC[m]It's my cousin's house now. She bought it before Grandma went to the nursing home.May 13 22:37
DaemonFC[m]The tap smells like iron and sulfur.May 13 22:37
oiaohmCarbon sticks is mostly to keep already safe water from turning bad in transport.May 13 22:38
DaemonFC[m]Brita improves it, but it still has a very bad taste even after that's finished with it.May 13 22:38
DaemonFC[m]What they really need is a reverse osmosis or a carbon block system with a sediment trap phase.May 13 22:38
oiaohmIf the water is bad enough you basically need a solar still and add safe minirals back in.May 13 22:39
DaemonFC[m]The pressure might not be good enough for a RO, but under sink carbon block would work.May 13 22:39
DaemonFC[m]The RO also has a reject rate of 30-50%, so that's unacceptable with a septic.May 13 22:39
DaemonFC[m]If it was me, I'd do under stink sediment trap with carbon block and then boil it.May 13 22:39
oiaohmcarbon has it limitations.May 13 22:39
DaemonFC[m]*sinkMay 13 22:39
DaemonFC[m]Carbon is really good at what it does, but it has limits.May 13 22:40
MinceR(cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/670487.jpgMay 13 22:40
oiaohmWorst water I have dealt with was highly acid.May 13 22:40
oiaohmcarbon filters exposed to it directly would pull the magically disappearing act.May 13 22:40
DaemonFC[m]My Grandma left her lawn sprayer on all day once and it fell over sideways.May 13 22:40
MinceR"worst water i have dealt with wasn't even water" :>May 13 22:40
DaemonFC[m]When they got back it had painted the side of the house a rust color.May 13 22:41
MinceRsteel siding?May 13 22:41
DaemonFC[m]That's how much iron we're talking about.May 13 22:41
MinceRoh, just in the waterMay 13 22:41
DaemonFC[m]Nope, vinyl!May 13 22:41
DaemonFC[m]Her water is just awful.May 13 22:41
DaemonFC[m]Nastiest well water I've ever had.May 13 22:41
DaemonFC[m]The entire kitchen smells like it.May 13 22:41
oiaohmMost dangerous water was the home town I grow up in.  You would distil the water and the left over powder you could use in old school camera as flash powder.May 13 22:42
DaemonFC[m]I told my dad once that she smelled like it too, but that might just be because she's the devil.May 13 22:42
oiaohmThat was dangerous for other reasons.May 13 22:43
MinceR:>May 13 22:44
oiaohmThink of living in a town were everyone has easy access to explosives by processing the water and you have tradition of once a year having a Guy Fawkes night that results in many mailboxs magically ceasing to exist.May 13 22:45
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DaemonFC[m]My sister in law said that some people smacked her mailbox with a steel baseball bat.May 13 22:58
DaemonFC[m]This was back before I knew her very well.May 13 22:58
DaemonFC[m]I told her "Put a cinder block in it next time.May 13 22:58
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DaemonFC[m]oiaohm: I noticed that they had a two pack with charcoal sticks that size for $29.May 13 23:41
DaemonFC[m]So I canceled the order and changed it.May 13 23:41
DaemonFC[m]Hate it when Amazon is like that.May 13 23:41
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