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MinceRapparentlyJun 13 00:01
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Futex2, Steam Game Festival, The Iron Oath and art of rally http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138704 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d1f14796-893e-42c3-861e-e85f1f10c7bd]Jun 13 00:08
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OpenZFS removed offensive terminology from its code http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138705 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e4a023a5-1f36-406a-b54d-de0773ae0b41]Jun 13 00:17
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE and GNOME: Calamares, Cantor and Fractal http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138706 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fd6a9c79-3452-427b-9753-d25058da5a4a]Jun 13 00:44
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GNU/Linux on Raspberry Pi and Jetson Xavier NX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138707 [https://pleroma.site/objects/af764068-88b4-4d77-9cc7-41f4165ec72b]Jun 13 00:46
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Updates, Sysadmin, and Speculation Mitigation Fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138708 [https://pleroma.site/objects/287e5773-ca75-49cf-a320-bc03d329d128]Jun 13 00:49
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Debian: Ulrike Uhlig and DebConf Updates http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138709 [https://pleroma.site/objects/331016e4-ad1c-4229-a005-20f8f006a131]Jun 13 00:51
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux and Linux Foundation Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138710 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7dbb2179-265c-4058-89a2-358dc1cf0b1d]Jun 13 00:53
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: openSUSE Tumbleweed – Review of the week 2020/24 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138711 [https://pleroma.site/objects/baf87f3d-e7f6-4ca2-8cfc-727de9c4f45f]Jun 13 00:56
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schestowitzSUEPO: "Do not forget to vote for the Staff Committee elections on 25 and 26 June !"Jun 13 01:57
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schestowitz>> rss "feed" (there are some canonical URLs, but never mind those) reqsJun 13 04:32
schestowitz>> for this week will be higher than 200k, so I don't think posting a lotJun 13 04:32
schestowitz>> more often lowered the number of people subscribed over RSS. Maybe itJun 13 04:32
schestowitz>> increased. I just wanted to check or verify that writing a lot moreJun 13 04:32
schestowitz>> doesn't put some people off. The evidence shows no such thing.Jun 13 04:32
schestowitz> Excellent. You've been covering relevant topics which people want to read.Jun 13 04:32
schestowitz> Jun 13 04:32
schestowitz> By the way, S.3905 is wending its way through the US Senate at theJun 13 04:32
schestowitz> moment and considers deployment of 5G a foregone conclusion.  More aboutJun 13 04:32
schestowitz> that in tomorrow's batch I expect, and who knows when or if it willJun 13 04:32
schestowitz> reach the US House of Representatives.  However, I'd note that theJun 13 04:32
schestowitz> strategy of associating, by use of strawmen and hyperbole, criticismJun 13 04:32
schestowitz> with cranks seems to have worked.  So expect more of the same in regardsJun 13 04:32
schestowitz> to software patents, Bill, and M$.Jun 13 04:32
schestowitzTo be fair, those tricks are nothing news. They're used in every domain.Jun 13 04:32
schestowitzSo we should expect them.Jun 13 04:32
schestowitzThen respond to them.Jun 13 04:32
schestowitz> here's my public key. Jun 13 04:34
schestowitz> Jun 13 04:34
schestowitz> i'll send you some notes later today / tomorrow about what we'll discussJun 13 04:34
schestowitz> for the podcast.Jun 13 04:34
schestowitz> I think I'm doing this correctly? Let me know if this reply is encrypted. (I'm new to PGP)Jun 13 04:34
schestowitz> Jun 13 04:34
schestowitz> I'm crazy busy covering these riots/protests in Pittsburgh at the moment, I'll have to get back to you when things get less crazy, a couple days or so (I hope).Jun 13 04:34
schestowitzSeems we manage to get more people to use PGP now ;-)Jun 13 04:34
schestowitzwill make it harder to undermine reporting, I suppose...Jun 13 04:34
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138712 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c75321d2-2df5-470e-9af0-d3929697b4fc]Jun 13 05:24
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python Programming http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138713 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3047fdcd-6bec-4c01-a1a8-204d67913e5b]Jun 13 05:29
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138714 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f13ca6c4-beff-44ec-8fb6-ca4383c2dbb6]Jun 13 05:33
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138715 [https://pleroma.site/objects/237e2b93-8e22-4f49-9b80-008bff48c2d9]Jun 13 05:36
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: My impression of the PineBook Pro – a $200 ARM powered laptop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138716 [https://pleroma.site/objects/548287fb-b0ee-44ad-ae3a-2192a09433c9]Jun 13 08:01
schestowitzhttps://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=84741Jun 13 08:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forum.kde.org | Dolphin does not auto refresh folder view? • KDE Community ForumsJun 13 08:32
schestowitzhttps://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/360363/how-to-auto-refresh-kde-desktopJun 13 08:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unix.stackexchange.com | How to auto-refresh KDE desktop? - Unix & Linux Stack ExchangeJun 13 08:32
schestowitzdoes anyone here know how to make dolphin refresh automatically for remote location?Jun 13 08:32
schestowitzor folderview (same)?Jun 13 08:32
schestowitzbasically without me f5ing to reload the file listings of some remote place over sshJun 13 08:33
schestowitzhttps://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/8mjufl/dolphin_refresh/Jun 13 08:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Dolphin refresh? : kdeJun 13 08:35
schestowitzThey are not even answering the questionJun 13 08:35
schestowitzthe person complains it does not AUTO-refreshJun 13 08:35
schestowitz"Jun 13 08:35
schestowitzjust like in any browser, like (cfeck_kde already said): press F5Jun 13 08:35
schestowitzOr, if you would like to have a button to do this, in dolphin, go to settings, to configure-toolbar, and then choose the "reload" on the left, click on it, click on the > button and click OK.Jun 13 08:35
schestowitzNow, you should have a refresh button in the toolbarJun 13 08:35
schestowitz"Jun 13 08:35
schestowitzhttps://forum.manjaro.org/t/dolphin-should-refresh-view/114496Jun 13 08:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forum.manjaro.org | Dolphin should refresh view - Applications - Manjaro Linux ForumJun 13 08:37
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138717 [https://pleroma.site/objects/22538870-b1e1-418a-a32e-1b3d85804be7]Jun 13 08:53
schestowitzfound a solution, but is is messy https://askubuntu.com/questions/311303/how-to-update-dolphin-file-manager-in-real-timeJun 13 08:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-askubuntu.com | kde - how to update dolphin file manager in real time - Ask UbuntuJun 13 08:58
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XRevan86https://github.com/OpenVPN/openvpn/blob/v2.4.9/src/openvpn/socket.c#L3120 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OpenVPN#IPv6Jun 13 11:17
XRevan86Arch Wiki contradicts the code, and is actually right.Jun 13 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openvpn/socket.c at v2.4.9 · OpenVPN/openvpn · GitHubJun 13 11:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.archlinux.org | OpenVPN - ArchWikiJun 13 11:17
schestowitzewww... openvpn uses github as primary?Jun 13 11:19
schestowitzthat's like giving all your crown jewels to the NSAJun 13 11:19
schestowitzunwise to say the leatsJun 13 11:19
schestowitzwe left openvpn ages agoJun 13 11:19
XRevan86udp, udp4 – IPv4, udp6 – IPv4 + IPv6Jun 13 11:19
XRevan86But: tcp4 – IPv4, tcp, tcp6 – IPv4 + IPv6Jun 13 11:19
XRevan86* https://gitlab.com/openvpn/openvpn/-/blob/v2.4.9/src/openvpn/socket.c#L3120Jun 13 11:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-src/openvpn/socket.c · v2.4.9 · OpenVPN / openvpn · GitLabJun 13 11:21
XRevan86schestowitz: Hard to tell what's primaryJun 13 11:21
XRevan86https://community.openvpn.net/openvpn/wiki/CodeRepositories yep, GitHub is primary :/Jun 13 11:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-community.openvpn.net | CodeRepositories – OpenVPN CommunityJun 13 11:21
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XRevan86schestowitz: Why would it make it untrustworthy software though?Jun 13 11:39
XRevan86Microsoft cannot just rewrite the code without anyone noticing, that's not how git works – forgery (force push) will be immediately noticed by everyone who has a mirror or a local copy.Jun 13 11:40
XRevan86And OpenVPN doesn't track issues with GitHub, so that reduces their dependency on the platform considerably.Jun 13 11:47
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schestowitzsupplt chainJun 13 12:14
schestowitz*supplyJun 13 12:14
schestowitzXRevan86: did you see the TAILS/FB story?Jun 13 12:14
schestowitzI posted about 3 links about it yesterdayJun 13 12:14
schestowitzthe exploits would be targetedJun 13 12:14
schestowitzlike the NSA does with shipments of physical machinesJun 13 12:15
schestowitzthe matter of fact is, a lot of the code and the stuff goes through US Army-connected (or obedient) partiesJun 13 12:15
schestowitzinc. USPSJun 13 12:15
schestowitzand in turn it gives them their coveted "full spectrum dominance"Jun 13 12:15
XRevan86schestowitz: I've seen itJun 13 12:15
XRevan86schestowitz: But if something like this were to happen to the OpenVPN git repo, that will topple git as a wholeJun 13 12:17
schestowitzbut wait...Jun 13 12:21
schestowitzit's like with firearmsJun 13 12:21
schestowitzdon't judge it in times of calmJun 13 12:21
schestowitzthink of cold war with chinaJun 13 12:21
schestowitzwhat would the US govt. resort to in github?Jun 13 12:21
schestowitzand to what degree it can be strongarmed for war...Jun 13 12:21
schestowitzstrategically openvpn sets itself up for enslavementJun 13 12:22
schestowitzand telling people, HEY GUYS!!! Don't USE GITHUB!! isn't too simpleJun 13 12:22
schestowitzVPN is a special kind of softwareJun 13 12:22
schestowitzif you start with a foundation of faeces like GH, then you don't get security's basicsJun 13 12:22
XRevan86schestowitz: OpenVPN is not that special, as it's not trying to hide itself.Jun 13 12:23
schestowitzGNU was made on UNIXJun 13 12:23
schestowitzbut there was no other choice reallyJun 13 12:23
XRevan86shadowsocks is a more interesting specimenJun 13 12:23
schestowitzopenvpn has many other options availableJun 13 12:23
schestowitzbut it clearly doesn't value the very basics, like trusting trustJun 13 12:23
XRevan86And that one is no longer available on GitHubJun 13 12:24
schestowitzGH should not exist to us...Jun 13 12:25
schestowitzbut... Microsoft ambushed it long enoughJun 13 12:25
schestowitzuntil the network effect took holdJun 13 12:25
schestowitzI reckon they also used their media between 2014 and 2018 to hype it upJun 13 12:25
schestowitzto get people imprisoned thereJun 13 12:25
schestowitzas devs and projectsJun 13 12:25
XRevan86schestowitz: At least OpenVPN supports alternatives. I didn't notice the GitLab.com mirror at first, search engines favour GitHub too much.Jun 13 12:26
schestowitzremember the plan to buy github goes back to 2014 (guthrie told bloomberg's msft stenographer, dana bass)Jun 13 12:26
schestowitzXRevan86: do you use yandex?Jun 13 12:26
XRevan86schestowitz: I guess I do. I use DDG.Jun 13 12:27
XRevan86With search in Russian it goes to Yandex.Jun 13 12:27
XRevan86I don't really want to go the Searx route.Jun 13 12:28
XRevan86And after the demise of Startpage.com, I fallbacked to DDGJun 13 12:28
XRevan86Typed "openvpn гит" (git) into DDG, the GitLab.com mirror is not even on the radar.Jun 13 12:31
XRevan86The first page is the official website, the GitHub mirror and SF.netJun 13 12:32
XRevan86> remember the plan to buy github goes back to 2014 (guthrie told bloomberg's msft stenographer, dana bass)Jun 13 12:34
XRevan86schestowitz: It could've been bought by Google.Jun 13 12:34
XRevan86And before buying GitHub Microsoft first tried to make CodePlex more relevant, by changing the UI and adding git support.Jun 13 12:35
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XRevan86schestowitz: And the rise of GitHub is not surprising, it gave more convinience to development than anything before it. And now it's a monopoly owned by a corporation.Jun 13 12:40
schestowitzgithub as a concept is wrongJun 13 12:57
schestowitzit's like social control mediaJun 13 12:57
schestowitzand more so centralisedJun 13 12:57
schestowitzanyway, I am writing something related to this now..Jun 13 13:34
MinceRusing proprietary software to provide web access to git is both wrong and unnecessaryJun 13 13:37
MinceR(video) (audio:important) https://twitter.com/JohnCleese/status/1271535485467283457Jun 13 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JohnCleese: Hard to tell if I recorded this 30 years or 10 minutes ago... https://t.co/GPDURhYIJLJun 13 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JohnCleese: Hard to tell if I recorded this 30 years or 10 minutes ago... https://t.co/GPDURhYIJLJun 13 13:42
schestowitzgood videoJun 13 13:52
schestowitzsee top commentJun 13 13:52
schestowitzwhen logged offJun 13 13:52
schestowitzabout how it relates to social control mediaJun 13 13:52
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MinceR(cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/668690.jpgJun 13 15:05
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DaemonFC[m]I found a Firefox 77 WebRender bug that didn't exist in 76.Jun 13 19:24
DaemonFC[m]Sometimes Walmart Grocery starts having a seizure and then the display freezes up.Jun 13 19:25
DaemonFC[m]Happens under X or Wayland.Jun 13 19:25
DaemonFC[m]Generally, X11 is less buggy and thanks to those patches from Canonical, the GNOME Shell runs smoothly under X11 now.Jun 13 19:25
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DaemonFC[m]Fedora is getting ready to finally use a swap file by default instead of a swap partition in Fedora 33.Jun 13 20:13
DaemonFC[m]If you have enough memory for it, they plan to use a RAM disk and zram to store the swap file.Jun 13 20:13
DaemonFC[m]How is Ubuntu 20.04?Jun 13 20:14
DaemonFC[m]I heard they dropped a bunch of crackpot stupid shit that was never going anywhere.Jun 13 20:15
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20022914Jun 13 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4393885)Jun 13 21:23
psydreadUbuntu 20.04 is more of the same, I supposeJun 13 21:30
psydreadI have been running Xubuntu on this secondary machine for a year nowJun 13 21:31
psydreadbut I'll switch to Debian Unstable in the future, when I get a new SSDJun 13 21:31
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: System76 launches powerful Ryzen-based Linux laptop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138649#comment-25485 [https://pleroma.site/objects/baf98f56-6d3f-4fba-b3b1-5a903eafd471]Jun 13 22:11
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Live Sketch Your Educational Screencasts With Flameshot on Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138719 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c87277ba-2b89-4ce7-8772-b4d64bdf820b]Jun 13 22:22
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